Tiger Sisters - How to Know When It’s Time to Reinvent Yourself | Tiger Sisters Live with Jenna Ushkowitz, Ally Maki, Asian American Girl Club

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

Sign up for our newsletter here: https://cherieluo.substack.com/subscribe What started as two sisters having late-night conversations about money, power, and love has grown into something bigger than ...we ever imagined. Today, we're sharing our first-ever Tiger Sisters Live Show: a celebration of reinvention, courage, friendship, and the incredible community that made all of this possible. This week is different from our usual episodes. Recorded at Spotify Studios in Downtown Los Angeles, this episode is moderated by comedian Dylan Adler and features special guests Jenna Ushkowitz and Ally Maki from Asian American Girl Club (AAGC). From conversations about reinvention and career pivots to our first-ever Tiger Family Feud showdown (yes, it gets competitive), this episode explores how to embrace change, find joy in the little moments, and say yes to the opportunities that can transform your life.Tune in for lessons on:✅ How to know when it's time for a reinvention✅ How to build a personal brand without feeling inauthentic✅ How to negotiate raises, promotions, and opportunities with confidence✅ How to maintain friendships as life gets busier✅ Navigating imposter syndrome and identity shifts✅ Creating opportunities when none seem to exist✅ Finding the courage to put yourself out thereWatch to the end for a very special musical medley of Les Mis: Tiger Sisters editionTimestamps:01:42: Introducing Cherie and Jean to the stage 02:42: Thanking our community (you!!!!)02:59: Revisiting our 25 year-old beliefs 04:38: Debunking the “grind mentality” 05:18: Sharing what brings us joy 07:25: How to market yourself and build a personal brand 10:20: Breaking past the discomfort of putting yourself out there 12:05: How to negotiate salaries and promotions 15:20: How to make time for and invest in adult friendships 19:00: Welcoming Jenna and Ally from AAGC19:57: Ice Breaker: ‘Are you more Cherie or Jean-coded?’ 34:40: Finding joy and reinventing yourself 35:00: How do you know when it’s time to evolve vs stay put?37:26: Working through imposter syndrome as a founder 39:15: How Jenna pivoted after “Glee”40:33: How to break past the fear of trying something new 42:18: Lessons on how to put yourself out there 46:46: Embracing those “leap of faith” moments 49:18: What challenges are there today for AAPI female voices? 49:53: How to ask for more of what you deserve51:51: The power of representation and building communities 53:57: Tiger Family Feud! Hosted by Steve Harvey-San 1:00:53: Tiger Sisters Presents: a Les Miserables Medley 1:04:03: Closing remarks🐯👯‍♀️ We’re the Tiger Sisters — your Wall Street & Silicon Valley big sisters Decoding Money • Power • Love✨ New episodes every Monday | Shorts all week ✨💌 Want to partner with us? Sponsorships: partnerships@tigersisters.coWhy trust us?▫️ Cherie Brooke Luo — 100M+ views demystifying tech, finance & MBAs▫️ Jean Luo — ex-Goldman Sachs, ex-Snapchat exec, 50+ AI patents, startup investor▫️ Together: 4 Ivy League degrees • built billion-dollar products • two startups — decoded for youWhat you’ll get (and keep):▫️ 🚀 Ivy League cheat sheets — no $250K tuition▫️ Personal finance playbooks (salary, investing, negotiation)▫️ Networking scripts behind $100M+ deals & job offers▫️ Real conversations with CEOs, operators & investors▫️ Mindset resets — clarity without the pricey coach▫️ Systems for career, money, and long-term growth💛 LET’S CONNECT~ CHERIE ~Instagram — /cherie.brookeTikTok — /cherie.brookeSubstack — cherieluo.substack.comLinkedIn — /cherie-luo~ JEAN ~Instagram — /jeanluo_LinkedIn — /jeanluo👉 Hit Subscribe & tap the 🔔, then leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review on Spotify & Apple Podcasts. It takes 10 seconds and makes a massive difference in helping new people discover Tiger Sisters.🛍️ Items:🍵 Sisters Matcha — https://www.sistersmatcha.com 🌀 Everything else — https://amzn.to/3z0dx5b

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by Activia. You might already be eating yogurt, but not all yogurts are created equal. Activia contains over one billion probiotics per serving to survive and reach the gut alive. When it comes to gut health, Activia is the number one family doctor-recommended probiotic yogurt brand. Choose Activia. Feel good from the inside out. Visitactivia.ca for more details. Are you guys ready for the first ever Tiger Sisters Live? I'm going to need you to start moving and make some noise for your Tiger Sisters, Gene and Cheriebrook.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Who is the number one misunderstood Disney Zaddy? How do you feel about sardines for breakfast? All right. What are your thoughts on revenge? Oh my gosh, this cat! And I think I've learned how to let the fear kind of inspire me because if you sit for a minute and you listen to what it's saying, And it usually guides in a different direction. Like, what is the next reinvention?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Reinvention. Yeah. And that includes motherhood, right? For both of us. Yeah, big transition. It's a whole other thing. Our mission has always been to empower and uplift a billion women. And we really do think we can change the world.
Starting point is 00:01:15 So, like, if anyone thinks that's cringe, then, like, who cares? We are your Wall Street and Silicon Valley Big Sisters. And we're a top 10 business podcast bringing late night sister talk meets boardroom strategy. Hello everyone. Welcome to Tiger Sisters Live. Make some noise. Make some noise. Are you guys ready to see Sheree and Jean? How are you guys ready? I am so excited to bring them out. After leaving their careers at Goldman Sachs, Snapchat, and LinkedIn to bet on themselves and build something entirely on their own, these two sisters have turned late night conversations about money, power, and love into one of the top business podcasts in America. Give it up for that. DJ. Hit that track. All right. I'm going to need you to start moving and make some noise for your Tiger Sisters, Jean and Cherie Brooloo.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Hi. Dylan, bringing the energy. Oh, my gosh. This is a historic moment. This is the first ever live show for the Tiger Sisters. Oh, my God. I'm like, my heart is being really fast right now and kind of looking out and seeing all of you here. I know some of you have flown in for this.
Starting point is 00:02:48 of, you know, an hour plus to come to our live show. Like two hours in L.A. traffic. Right? That's love. That's love right there. And also just looking out of you guys right now, what a beautiful and amazing community. Thank you so much for joining us today. We have an incredible show.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It's going to be so much fun. And it is a show. And it's a show. And it's a show. And it's a show. It's a show. It's a show. Oh, well, I'm so excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And I think let's start with some questions about you guys and about the podcast. How does that sound? All right. Let's do it. Right. So what is something you believed about adulthood or success at 25 that you absolutely do not believe anymore? I think something I believed early in my 20s is that like success was defined as like something that was like really hard to achieve. You kind of have to like do it with your like teeth gritted and your hand.
Starting point is 00:03:45 and like a fist, you're like, oh my God, I need to grind those late nights and do everything. And I think that helped get us to where we wanted to be in our career, which we talk about on the pod. But now I'm in my 30s for the last six months. I feel like a lot of it has been like what has gotten me to where I am now will not get me to the next step of my life, my career, and whatever I want next. And so I think something I believed early in my 20s is like, you have to grind it out and it has to be so hard, but I'm like, that's not the mindset that I'm bringing into this new decade, a new chapter of my life. Yeah, I love that. And I, so I like Sharii answering first because then I can think about my answer. Great. Thank you. I always
Starting point is 00:04:27 have her answer first in case you guys haven't noticed. But I think to add to that, I would say thinking that any situation you're in is permanent, like whether or not you're in a great place in your life or if you're in like a place where you're not really happy with, like things just change all the time. I mean, like, look at us. Like, I don't even recognize myself. Like, what is going on? I think, I feel like this is like a fever dream. But so I think it's just good to remember, like, whatever situation you're in, it doesn't have to be permanent if you don't want it to be. I love that. That is beautiful. I love that. And the grind mentality. I'm like, that is very Asian. Right. I'm like, I got us here. But I'm like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I don't know, that grind mentality, I think it wears you down, right? It burns you out after a long time and it doesn't feel sustainable. And we're looking for the sustainable thing for the long term. Yeah, and there's no honor in grinding just to grind. I think that that's like a mindset I had to get rid of very, very recently where it's like sometimes you feel like, oh, when you're in the grind, it's like honorable in a way. But that's not necessary. Like I feel like we can really shed that.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I love that. Q-Moulon. I don't know if I'm an honor. Okay, next question. What brings joy to you now that maybe wouldn't have impressed your younger selves? I feel like I can answer for Sheree. What? What are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:05:52 I'm scared. You do like 50 million hobbies. Yeah. I mean, I have to make time for the hobbies in my life. I'm not going to say it's about balance because I feel like that's like very trite. But it is figuring out ways, like I said, to make things sustainable for your life. So it's like, how do you weave in those friendships in the, time for yourself and your hobbies. I would say last year, building Tiger Sisters,
Starting point is 00:06:15 we're like two years in now. So like the first year, it did feel really tough at times because we were working a lot. So for this like second year, I think the approach is like, how do I weave in my life into the work? So it doesn't feel so burnout-e. Yeah. I would say, I feel like since we're all friends here, I can say an answer that I feel like on the surface, might seem superficial. But I think in the last year, I, like, learned how to do my hair. Oh, yeah. I learned how to do makeup for the first time.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Shout out Kelly Zhang, who taught me at her makeup class. We actually went to a makeup lesson. Yes. It was necessary, guys. No, and it changed my life. And then I also got my colors done. And, like, all of it is because now, you know, we're more in the public eye. And, like, we're in a role that is more visible.
Starting point is 00:07:05 But I really wish I had done it earlier. And I think my whole life, I thought. my value was only my brain. Do you know what I mean? I was like, oh, like, what everyone says is that I'm smart and I work hard. So, like, that's all I focus on. But it's actually a lot healthier and that you feel better when you can invest in your whole self. So I feel like that's a message that, especially as Asian women, like, we don't get a lot. Like, you're not, you're not told, like, actually, it's healthy to invest in these parts of yourself. To learn how to do a blowout for yourself.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I love that. It's the matchmaker, Mulan. Learn how to do a blowout. Okay. This next question comes from someone in our lovely audience.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Do you have any advice on marketing yourself in a way that is authentic to you? I love this question. And thank you guys for filling out the pre-show survey because we were able to collect some questions from you.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I think about marketing myself and that sounds really weird. and gross to say, like it's, I don't know, people, there's like an ick or like kind of like a stink around. Like, how do you talk about yourself? Like, does it sound like you're bragging? But my thing is that like no one will talk about you or represent you or tell your story. So it is your job to figure out how you want to come across. And that might be a LinkedIn post. That might be on Instagram. But what it comes down to is your personal brand. Like how do you want to show up and how do you want to be known when you enter a room? So I think, I mean, obviously, like I'm posting on
Starting point is 00:08:37 Instagram every single day and on LinkedIn, check it out. But like, how you come across is so important. So spend some time investing and thinking about like, what are the values that I have and the features that I have that I want to be known for. And so I think it's all about personal brand. And no one will care more about your personal brand or your career more than yourself. So it's something you need to spend time doing. And I would say two things I learned from Sheree in this, because I feel like she's the like master at this and I learn a lot from her is that one it doesn't have to be this really like heavy scary thing it's like trying to change your mindset around it and thinking about it as a fun thing like oh this is a fun project this is like a lighthearted thing that I get to do in
Starting point is 00:09:22 in branding myself and that's the first one I think the second one is when you create content and put yourself out there thinking about what are all the times when I've seen content from someone else and I really appreciated it and it made me happier in that day or it actually made me think or changed my perspective about something in a positive way and I personally used to be, I think I still am like very, very private and I had to sort of think about like, oh, putting myself out there is helping people. So I think thinking about that mindset is really helpful. Yeah, I'm so proud of Jean for her journey over the last two years with Tiger sisters and on social media. Okay, guys. Thank you guys. This is what I need. This is what I needed. It's not a surprise that I started
Starting point is 00:10:06 a podcast. I've been like on social media and like since I was five years old. I'm like, hey guys. Yeah. And all my childhood videos. So like it's not really a surprise for the youngest child. Yeah, I'll say I'm the youngest. Hey. Hey guys. Right. But I think for Jean, I mean, it's a complete career pivot for her. So I'm just so incredibly proud. And as her little sister, seeing the transformation. I mean, if I can do it, you guys can a thousand percent do it. Like anyone here could do it if I, if I can put myself on stage like this. I love that.
Starting point is 00:10:37 The next question is very related to that from the audience. It says, I'm a pretty private person, but want to start building a brand online. Have you struggled with the discomfort of sharing online? What helped you break out of that discomfort? I mean, I think what I just said.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yes, yes. I might have jumped ahead. Anything to add? Well, I mean, I think it's definitely easier when we have the two of us, You know, like it's the Tiger Sisters. We can rely on each other. Jean can wait for me to say my answer first so she can think about her.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I thought of something else, guys. Typical. It's good that it's the two of us. So it's easier. And I'm not saying like, you know, starting online, you should definitely do it with someone. But like when you have kind of a co-founder, a co-pilot, like when you're starting a company, whether it's a startup, a media venture, like it's always easier when you have someone to bounce ideas off of. So I'm very thankful for that. All right, what are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:11:33 Okay. So what I'll add is that I think for us, when we first started thinking about building Tiger Sisters, we actually talked about the mission from the very, very beginning, right? So I think you guys know our mission has always been to empower and uplift a billion women, which sounds kind of crazy. And we never used to say it out loud to people because I feel like we were bashful about it. It sounded like too big of a goal, but now we say it. And I think, having that goal sort of grounds us or like anything we do is in service of that goal. So like how could it be cringy or even if it is cringy? Like who the hell cares, right?
Starting point is 00:12:09 Because we're trying to do this thing. We have this mission that we deeply care about and we think is really important. And we really do think we can change the world. So like if anyone thinks that's cringe, then like who cares? Back them. Yeah. Back them. I love that.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Okay. Two more questions. one from the audience. How did you start to find your voice negotiating salary and promotions with your manager? And what has an AHA, what was an AHA moment for you? Hmm. A-ha moment.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Also, no mess. I'm like, I'm so dumb. I'm like, is that business? What A-H-A? He's like, what was an A-A-P-I? I mean, A-A-H. I love it. A-H-A-A-A. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I'm sorry. I'm a dumb... I love it. Okay. The show is a roller coaster. How do I put this? I don't like confrontation. Like, that's who I am, and I've grown to, like, run towards the fire.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And if there is confrontation, like, how do I grow from it? But I kind of see, like, negotiating as a bit of a confrontation. Maybe it's not, but, like, in my mind it is. So, like, I would shy away from it. But, like, I said before, like, no one's going to care more about your career than you do. And it is completely up to you to know. to negotiate and to ask because if you don't ask, definitely nothing will change. But if you do ask, something great can come out of it. So like, what is the best that can happen?
Starting point is 00:13:37 And I think the tactical takeaway for this for negotiating is practicing. It sounds kind of uncomfortable or crazy to do, but like doing it in the mirror and like having a script, it's like if you're negotiating with your boss and, you know, like, hey, I would like, you know, a raise. And they're like, okay, here's the number. and they give you a number, you're not like, yay, thank you so much. You're like, kind of poker face and being like, okay, like, this is great information. Like, I'll take it back and think about it. Like, let's set up a follow-up meeting. Like, you don't have the pressure to be, like, responding right in the moment. I think the biggest negotiation tip is, like, you can take
Starting point is 00:14:15 time to think about things. Yeah, and practicing it, like, actually saying it out loud one time, you'll be surprised by how much that helps you because even just, like, talking it through, it like does something in the neurons of your brain where like when you hear yourself saying it out loud, you're like, oh, I've said it out loud already. And if you don't want to do it yourself, you can just ask a friend. Any new friends here?
Starting point is 00:14:37 You can be like, hey, can I, can we talk for 10 minutes on the phone? And practice. Actually, we did this in business school. We actually had a class on role playing, business role plays. Literally, it's just like the conversations that are the toughest to have
Starting point is 00:14:53 if you practice them ahead of time, whether it's asking for a raise, whether it's hiring someone or I guess giving someone a promotion over someone else, that's a really tough conversation to have. I think it's always worth practicing. It's all about those AHA moments. Amazing. Do you guys want to know a wisdom that my mother told me about growing up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:18 If you enjoyed our Tiger Sisters podcast episode on parenting and motherhood with our hilarious guests, Natasha Leger. and Sabrina Jalise, make sure to check out their podcast, Good Enough. New episodes drop every Wednesday wherever you get your podcasts. Together, they explore the messy and funny middle ground between old school and modern parenting. Okay, now back to the show. Final question from the audience. How do you make, I love this question, how do you make time for adult friendships and invest in those relationships? I love that.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Oh, I can answer first. Hey, guys. I think as you get older, especially as your friends move into different stages of life, especially when people start having kids and having to focus a lot of time on managing their families, I think there's two parts of it. The first one, I haven't thought of the second one, but the first one is actually being kind of like organized around it and being a little bit type A. So one thing that me and my girlfriends from HBS do is that the four of us arrange this kind of like retreat every year where we have, I think I've mentioned this before on the podcast maybe once, where 20 of us girls all from the same class, we all get together once a year for one weekend. And we just do a weekend of like bonding and catching up. And like, you know, we've tried, we've done a little bit more formal programming before where we've had like, oh, a fireside chat where. one of our girlfriends who goes is the CFO of a public company.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So we're like, what's it like being the CFO of a public company? Like tell us every, you know what I mean? So I think part of it is being very intentional and creating that recurring event, whether it's yearly or maybe quarterly, and then doing it with a group. So having a few people do that together, that's really helpful for having like a group event. and then I think the second thing I have one if you want time to think about your second answer
Starting point is 00:17:24 the second thing Cherie will be answering mine's also a two-parter and I have my second part the first one is I mean like Jean said it's about intentionality but I think a lot of it as we're like in our 20s 30s 40s beyond like life gets busy
Starting point is 00:17:39 it's all about the follow up and you need two people who are both open to having a friendship and having the follow up Because like I've been in the situation where like you're like, you're the person in the friendship where there's just like, hey, are we hanging out? Like blah, blah, blah. And like they're really busy. Maybe it's with work. Maybe it's with a new partner. They're just like not in that season of their life, which is like my second point is that like I think friendships and adult friendships are all about different seasons. And it's okay if you have like a season, whether it's literally a quarter or like half a year or even a year where you're like very invested in the social part of your life. But things happen. Different things evolve in your life. And it's okay to kind of like fade in and out, I think, of the socialness of your life. Yeah. Didn't I have a great second point, guys?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. I love that so much. A lot of the time I feel like we think success is being by yourself grinding, but success comes from bouncing ideas off of other people, friendship, getting. And I mean, you're working with someone who you're your best friend in college here is today, right? Who you're working with right now. Shout out fortune questions. Shout out fortune questions.
Starting point is 00:18:46 There's young Jay. Young Jay. That's beautiful. I love that. I love that. And speaking of friendship, our next guests are two women who have spent years reinventing themselves
Starting point is 00:18:57 publicly and creatively, while also building real community for Asian American women in entertainment and beyond. You know Jenna Ashkowitz from Glee, Broadway, producing, and being part of multiple millennial cultural milestones, and Ali Maki has built an incredible career across acting, storytelling, and advocacy.
Starting point is 00:19:17 while also becoming one of the funniest and most relatable people online. Together, they co-founded Asian American Girl Club. Give it up for AAGC. A community centered around identity, belonging, friendship, and celebrating Asian American women. Please make it loud for Ali Maki and Jenna Ashkowitz. Visit BetMDMDMGM casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick.
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Starting point is 00:20:31 Hosted by the one and only Jenna Schuwitz and Caroling. Which is also totally coincidental. I don't even I'm just shocked. The universe has brought us
Starting point is 00:20:42 together. That's right. We're so happy to be here. Yay. Okay. So we have a couple of questions for you, but before we dive into that, we have a bit
Starting point is 00:20:50 of an icebreaker game for you guys. Are you more sheree or Gene Coden? They don't know what's coming. They don't know what's coming. I'm okay yes it's a quiz guys
Starting point is 00:21:03 are you so nervous are you guys you guys are you so you guys are really smart okay no no the first thing today my mom comes over
Starting point is 00:21:11 she goes those girls are amazing so impressive and I'm like yes I know I know they do it all meanwhile
Starting point is 00:21:17 sardines okay guys we're gonna ask through a couple of slides are you more Jean or Cherie coated and by the end of this there's only a couple
Starting point is 00:21:26 of questions you're gonna figure out are you more like Jean or Shari So the first one is... This is a very high stakes test, guys. So nervous. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Okay. So how do you feel about sardines for breakfast? I'm going to say no. No. Sardines for lunch? For lunch. Okay. So you are pro sardine?
Starting point is 00:21:45 No. No. Wait. At all? Oh, for lunch, though, not for breakfast. Is that weird? Pro sardine, but not... In general.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yes. But not for breakfast. Yes. Yes. Yes. In general, yes. Sorry. Okay, that's kind of like a halfway, halfway there.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Are you familiar? Like, sardines are like trending right now, like on TikTok, on Instagram. Everyone's eating them. And I have a very strange craving first thing in the morning. Actually, it starts even before then. When I go to bed, I'm always thinking about what I'm going to have for breakfast the next morning. And it is sardines.
Starting point is 00:22:17 How? What's the ingredients? Just by itself? Sardines, a piece of toast, some flaky sea salt, a pinch of, like, lemon. I've air fried them before. They're pretty good air fried. Air fried? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Give me a little crisp. Okay. I'm into that. I would say we're halfway there. Okay. Yeah. This group is very good on omega-3s. We're good.
Starting point is 00:22:40 We're good. Okay, the next one. How do you feel about binge watching an entire series in one night? Have you ever done that? Oh, yeah. Wait, really? Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Okay. How often? Not very. I would say more so before I had kids. Before I was a mom. Yeah. And now it's like I'll watch like 30 seconds of a show. Turn it off.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Come back. Watch like two minutes. Come back. Like it's very disrupted. It takes me like six months to watch a show now. Meanwhile, you watch Moana like 50 times a week. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:16 This is true. I have watched Moana like 150 times. Yes. In total. Yes. Same. Okay. But if you could,
Starting point is 00:23:24 you would be binge watching. Yeah. An entire series. Definitely. Okay. Because this is, this is me. This is a Gene special. She's very good at binge watching an entire series in a single night.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Thank you. I like how you turn that into a positive. I'm very good at it. She's very good at it. I have a special skill. What kind of genre? Like anything. I liked reality TV, but like anything.
Starting point is 00:23:48 She's big on reality TV. Yeah. That's another. Oh, yeah. That's another difference between us. You're not so much with the. I just doesn't watch TV. She has too many hobbies.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I have too many hobbies, as we've said. She needs to, like, spin pottery and stuff. I go swimming and do pottery. I play tennis. But I don't really watch that much TV. Honestly, guys, I think I'm scrolling. I think that's my TV time is my script. That's true.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Fair enough. I already think I'm gene-coded. We have way many more questions. You can't decide that. Come on. Well, do you guys also, last question. Do you binge? Binge read?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Do you binge read also? Ever binge read? Like you'll read a whole book in one night? Definitely. Okay. That's me. I mean, free children, though. Like, I will fall asleep five minutes in now.
Starting point is 00:24:36 But you, yes, I would definitely read a whole book in one night. Okay. We'll do the next one. Okay, the next one. All right. What are your thoughts on revenge? Oh my gosh, this cat. How do you feel about revenge?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Just in general. Revenge. Oh, Jenna has something to say. No. No. Yes. No, no, I'm not into revenge. I'm not so into it. What if it's so, what if it's paired with this really cute cat? Yeah, that's fair. What if you saw an X that you no longer, I mean, it was not an amical breakup. What if you saw them and they're like dusty now and you're
Starting point is 00:25:13 like, oh, they don't look as good anymore. Like, well, how do you feel about that? I'm into that. Are you into that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I just think it like active revenge is not really the game we play. But, you know, I'm into passive revenge. Passive revenge. We've created a new category of revenge. Passive revenge. Passive revenge.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So it's basically just living, living the best life is the best revenge, something like that. Yeah. I think you get what you give. And I think we got to give kindness and whatever they get they're going to get, you know. Sounds like she loves revenge, guys. She's really into revenge. Karma is going to get you. It's a little passive revenge.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Passive revenge. Passive revenge. Okay. How do you feel about an early morning workout? Where you and I go are separate ways. We're on completely different schedules. Wait, us too. Wait, say more.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Tell us. 6 a.m. every day. 6 a.m. Wait, what are you doing? What are you doing? Like a hit training mate, like workout at 6th. Oh, right. Training mate.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Wait, you've hit like 400 or something crazy session. 500 classes, guys. Damn. It's crazy. Wait, is that like an app? No, no. It's in like Santa Monica. Well, it's like a studio. It's by these Australian people. So what do you? Yeah, it's very cute Australian people. Very positive vibes. Yeah. Not revenge. Not vengeful. Not vengeful. Okay. What about you guys? And what about you? Well, we know. I want to hear about you, Allie. Yeah. Allie, what do you do, Allie? Oh, me. I haven't worked out in all long. time. I blame pregnancy, new motherhood. But I mean, you know, I'm like walking around the block with Charlie. So I feel like that counts. Yeah. Getting steps in, daily steps. Yes, but I'm not a 7 a.m. in the morning, like generally workout type person. And we're complete opposites because when I'm kind of preparing lunch, you're like preparing dinner. Eating dinner. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm a night owl. Yeah. Me too. Oh, see. So I'm the early working out person. I love an early morning workout. I'm like, start your day, drink your lemon water.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Sorry, I sound unbearable. Eat your sardines. Right? Eat your sardines, get your omega-3s in the morning. Start the day off right. She will, like, put on a swim cap and go swimming. Like, who is she? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Wow. I haven't done that in a little bit, but I think it's the early morning workout that just gets me, like, going. No, I could never. Yeah. I love that for you. I love that for you. Yeah, I'm a night owl. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Chicken paw. How do you feel about chicken, chicken paws. It is AAPI Heritage Month. So, I know. This one's controversial. I've had them once. Yeah. And I loved them. Yeah. Okay, but I ate them on a cruise ship. Oh. Doesn't sound right. I was a kid. And it was, hey, do you want to try this? And I was, sure. And I ate them, they were fine. I'm shocked. I'm still here. But you haven't had them since. I have not. Okay. But I would. Yeah. She's an open-minded queen. Open-minded.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Good for you, right? Oh, they're really good. They have a lot of collagen. Yeah. What are you? I've never had them. Oh. Today's the day.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I'm into, I love food. I'll try mostly anything, but if they look like that, I don't know that I would. It is too obviously a paw. Like, it is a paw. Do you clip the nails or the nails stay on? No, it's a legitimate question. Yeah, no, the nails are clipped off. They need a manicure.
Starting point is 00:28:52 The paws need a manicure. No. Well, not by us, by the person who's preparing. No. Cut short or gone? No. Gone. I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I don't think so. Anyway, this is Sheree's number one order at dim sum. Oh, my God. Don't worry, Jenna. I'll take you out for dim sum. We'll get some chicken pies. It's just going to be... All chicken paws.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's going to be only chicken paws for the dimsum. Would highly recommend you guys tried if you haven't already. Open-minded. Okay. Okay, how do you feel about four days, no hair wash? I feel like we're traumatizing you with our slides. And we're really far too much about ourselves. It really learned a lot today.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It could be three days. It could be two days. Four days is too long. Pushing it for me. What's the longest you've stretched it? Yeah, how long? It's a really good blowout. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:45 With the blowout, you could go maybe like five. Yeah. Six days, maybe. Yeah. If I'm just on Zoom and I'm home, Sorry. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:55 No. The longest I've stretched one is probably three days. Yeah. But it doesn't hold. Like a blowtry won't hold my hair for three days nicely. That's why you need the dry shampoo. I know, but it won't. It really doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:30:10 It doesn't work. I'm an everyday hair washer. Okay, next one. Having hobbies as an adult, I feel like I've already been outed for this one. Yes. Yes. Yes? Yes. What are some of your hobbies? What do you do? Was tennis a hobby? Tennis? Yeah. Apparently washing your hair sounds like a hobby.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Washing your hair. Sounds like a job. She does it like every day, guys. I feel like when you have kids, you're a constant crafter. And we like make necklaces and bracelets all the time. So like I like, it's very relaxing. We do crafts. We paint. We do beads. So I feel like my adult hobby is tennis. and my kid hobby is like crafting. Do you have hobby, Sally? My hobby is watching Survivor and the Pit. I love Survivor. We don't ruin it.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I haven't seen the latest episode. I am not saying a thing, but season 50. Yeah. Oh my God. Obsessed. I love her. One wood. Can we, the Billy Isish Hidden Idol or the Billy Island?
Starting point is 00:31:12 The Blue Ribbon Island. Anyone? Anyone? Anyone. Yes. Survivor and the Pit. I like that. I do think for, in terms of.
Starting point is 00:31:21 hobbies, there are a bunch that I'm like, when I have kids, I'm going to start doing this again. Or like, when I have kids, I'm going to buy all the stuffies that I want. I love stuffies, but I can. It's a great opportunity for stuffies. Yes. We actually have a lot. We have a lot of stuffed animals between the two of us in our shared place. But not nearly, not nearly as many as I want. We have, there's zero children, just two adults. But stuffies are in. I mean, you know, the Luboo's and the blind boxes. You got to have them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:54 They're little comfort items. Uh-oh, here we go. Okay, next one. Buying designer on vacation to save money. We got to get that that refund. You get that VAT refund. Oh, got it. Yes, when you go to Europe.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Or when you're in Hawaii, the tax is lower. So it makes sense, right? Right, right? Yeah. I'm into it. It feels a little stressful, though, because it's such a big purchase. It's like when you're there in the moment, I get kind of stressed. You can't really sleep on it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Put it back. Yeah. Put it back. But the savings, the savings, you know. The savings is good. It's an investment. I think it's an investment. I'm into it.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Okay. The next one is ordering mild Thai food or no spicy. No spicy. No spicy. No, no. No, no. You got to have the spice. The spice.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Who's mild? She is. Oh, she can't handle. I can't handle spicy food. Everything she ordered. No spicy, no spicy. It's not. She doesn't say it.
Starting point is 00:32:58 We're not related in that sense because Jean will have it like Thai spicy. I love spicy. She loves spicy. And I am the wimp between the two of us. Yeah. So there are certain dishes that she can't have that I order. That we have to compromise on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 We're like the papaya salad like no spicy. No spicy. Spicy all the way. Oh, I think this is the last one. Right? Is smoothie a meal? I like how you guys are taking it so seriously. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:27 We're like overthinking every question. I know. I kind of want to know with the audience thing. Yes? No. No. Everyone's really split. I feel like I'm more hungry after I eat a smoothie.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Is that crazy? No, I don't think it's a meal. I don't think it's a meal. It's like an appetizer. Yeah. It's like first course. Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And a moose push. I eat smoothies a lot as like, not like a meal replacement, but I feel like during the day recently, I don't feel like ingesting like hard food. Real food. She will be drinking a ton of smoothies though. Also, she's on the go a lot. So I think it's just on the go, guys.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm so on the go. Wasn't there someone on Love is Blind who blended chicken? Yes. Right? I remember that. But chicken was something, right? I can't remember. No.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah, they made like a chicken smoothie. I had another friend who. has an aversion to eating. Like he's like, I don't enjoy food. So he's like, I'd rather stick everything into a blender, blend it and just drink it really fast than eat it. And I was like, how is this possible? And they were Asian.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I was like, I don't believe this. I love eating. I live to eat. Me too. It's like one of my favorite hobbies. Yeah. We can all agree on that. Cue the chicken paws.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah. I think that was our last one. Well, I guess in terms of like Sheree or gene coded. I think I think Allie is more gene coated. For sure. And Jenna is more shriek-led. I think so. I think so.
Starting point is 00:34:55 It makes sense. It makes sense. Okay. That seems fair. I feel it. Yeah. Yay. You guys.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You guys pass the test with flying colors. Thank you so much. That's why we're here. We just wanted to get the A. Yeah. You're backstage like, gosh, they're so smart. They're like professors. You guys are so smart.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Meanwhile, we're like, is a smoothie a meal? Right, right. That's, I think, why we came out and we're like, bringing out the questions for us, you know? Yeah. But we do have some actual real conversation questions with you. And, I mean, the theme of today is reinventing yourself and also bringing more joy into your life. And so we wanted to talk more about those two topics, especially as it relates to a PI month. So the first question that we had is that you guys have both had really incredible and
Starting point is 00:35:52 storied careers. That's changed directions multiple times. So how do you know when it's time to evolve versus when it's still time to push through what you're currently doing? Bortem is a really good sign of when it's time to change. I also think that being scared, there's two types of scared to me. Like there's a scary, this is not right, something's wrong, get out of here kind of scared, like a fear. And there's a scared, like a very exciting, challenging, scared. Like, it's a great sign that I should be doing this, like stepping into the next chapter. So I think listening to those kind of feelings are really good signs to, you know, move and kind of like guide you in your path. And that's kind of how I let, like, those are the feelings that I kind of lead with.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Game as fast as they could. It's been too long, cowboy. From Disney and Pixar. So that's Lily Pat. What are you? Some sort of old man toy? What? She thinks you're old because you're bald, Woody.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Toys are for play. Tech is for everything. Toy Story is back. I want to talk to you, device. The long toys. Turn her off. Sorry, spotted. I have plastic fingers.
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Starting point is 00:37:17 Rees knows a thing or two about great combinations. chocolate and peanut butter, obviously, but there's more than one way to Reese's. From indulgent Reese's big cups with caramel to crunchy Reese's pieces and Reese's miniatures, there's a delicious Reese's for every mood. It's the same combo you love, just with more ways to enjoy it. So whether you're snacking, sharing, or just treating yourself, nothing else is Reese's. Love that. Yeah, I think similarly, I think through my whole journey, I, similar, similar to what you said, whenever I'm faced with two journeys and one of them is very scary and one of them is not, I always tend to try to go the scarier path. And scarier meaning, it feels
Starting point is 00:38:06 like a challenge, feels like something I've never done before. I feel like in my career, I did comedy for a long time. And I remember talking to Trave, my partner, and I was like, I'm just a comedy person. I'm just a comedy person. He's like, what do you mean? I was like, I'm just here to try to make people laugh. And he's like, But I think you can do more than that. And I was like, no, I can't. No, I can't. And it took me a long time for myself to be like, oh, wait, maybe I can do drama.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Okay, maybe I can like, you know, try to start something like AGC. So I think it's been my own kind of letting go of seeing myself as just one particular trait or path. I love that. One follow-up question I have on that topic is that I don't know if you guys know this, but I have followed both of you online for a really, really long time. I'm like genuinely both of your long, long time fans. We are fan-girling. We both are.
Starting point is 00:39:01 We are fan girls, we all. I know. And so as part of it, I feel like I've always seen both of you in your lives as so, like, glamorous and like that is very much how it looks from the outside, right? So can you give us a little bit more like behind the scenes? Like, what's a time when you change something or you had that big reinventing where obviously it looks glamorous from the outside, but on the inside it was actually really terrifying and maybe even like really difficult.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I mean, I still have imposter syndrome about this whole founder position, right, of founding something because it was something that I sort of started by accident, you know, and it was just based on this need of, I said, does anyone else feel this way? And, you know, just people came from everywhere and said that they did. So I think yeah, I'm still kind of coming to terms with that I can kind of be that. Stepping into the role as like, I am a founder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because again, I just think of myself as, oh, I'm just an actor.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I don't know, you know, how to do this and do that. But I think, like, learning along the way has just been huge and being open to that, too. Yeah, I think that both Alley and I started as actresses when we were both very, very young, like under the age of 10. And so it's been a long journey in the entertainment industry as actresses. And I think for me, going from theater to then, you know, working on Glee for so many years, which looked glamorous, but it was not. It was a really big shift after Glee because Glee really opened up all the doors.
Starting point is 00:40:40 It was like a lightning in the bottle experience that changed our lives forever in so many ways. But afterwards, as an actress, you think, like, I, I've made it. I'm going to work forever. And the truth was, nobody wanted us in their audition rooms. Nobody wanted to hire us because they couldn't see us as anything but those characters. So people really needed a break from seeing us all over the place. Like we were sick of seeing ourselves. And I think that was a really scary moment of coming off the show and thinking, we're all going to go back on another TV shows and everybody's going to work. And none of us did. And so pivoting to producing and going back to New York and going back on the stage, all of those things felt scary.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I went directly back and I did some Broadway, which was like so much fun, but there's so much pressure that comes with that because now everybody's watching. What are they going to do next? And I think that those moments were so terrifying. And they may seem like, wow, they're just working. They never saw the low in between. and they never saw any of the transition. And so I think that was like a big, a really big one for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I feel like I love that we're talking about this so publicly and on stage in front of everyone because this is kind of the reality of it, right? It's like we see the shiny exterior on Instagram or LinkedIn, but I think career paths are so, like the path kind of goes like this, right? But then like only looking backwards, can you really connect the dots? They're like, oh, it made sense in that time, and maybe there was a lull and a pivot. But like, you can kind of explain it while looking back, but during it is sometimes terrifying. Totally.
Starting point is 00:42:24 It's so scary. And I think I've learned how to let the fear kind of inspire me, because if you sit for a minute and you listen to what it's saying, then it usually guides in a different direction. Like, I remember, similar to Jenna, I hadn't worked in a while, like, acting wise. And I was like, what are I going to do? I don't, I'm going to quit, I think. And then one day I was like, you know what? really want to make something. So I just woke up on a Saturday morning and I got my dog was in it. We just filmed it my neighborhood. I got a friend to like film it and we posted it on YouTube and it got like 70 views and
Starting point is 00:42:55 I was like, oh, this is a failure. No one cares. And then randomly like a few months later I got a call and they were like, oh, they want you to be in Toy Story. And I was like, what do you mean? How? I didn't even audition for this. And they were like the Pixar casting department went on YouTube and they found this video you made. Oh my God. And they saw and they were like, that's the character. And I was like, so you're telling me one of the 70 views that I got. Oh my God. Because I think we don't think about the people as real people.
Starting point is 00:43:23 That's 70 real people like 100 people of today. You are all amazing people that showed up and came out. And I think we tend to forget that. We see, oh, that's a failure. Like no one liked that. But it's not true. Like you could be impacting so many people and we don't even know it. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And your next opportunity. Like you never know when you put yourself out there, it just opens up so many more possibilities and like room for collisions, whether it's like going to an event, putting your content out there, putting yourself out there. You never know who's going to be in that room. And what is that Lady Gaga quote? Like what does she say? That's like, oh, she says like if there's a hundred people in a room, like you only need that one person to believe in you. To like believe in you. And that one person found you. Of that 70 views. That's right. I'm feeling really inspired by you guys and your story. And I think that's, takeaway for me is just like, I need to be brave. Like, I need to be brave. Yeah. I also, I'm just really grateful that you guys are sharing the story with us because like when I think about you two, you're both these incredible multi hyphenates with amazing resumes. But now you guys are giving us the inside scoop where you're like, well, actually the only reason I became a multi hyphenate is because I thought that this part of my career was over. Like I thought that it came from like a place of need. Yeah, I feel like everything maybe kind of
Starting point is 00:44:42 of the biggest parts of my personal journey have been from moments of being rock bottom. Yeah. And then using that to kind of figure out what is the next, I don't even want to say next iteration, but what is, what is, you know, going to, what is the next convention? Reinvention. Yeah. And that includes motherhood, right, for both of us. Yeah, big transition. It's a whole other thing. Yeah, really big transition. If you guys enjoyed our recent episode about communication with Professor Matt Abrams, you should check out his podcast, Think Fast, Talk Smart. Yes, this was one of my favorite conversations. And Professor Matt Abrams was my speaking coach when I did my TED Talk last year.
Starting point is 00:45:26 We basically manifested this episode because we literally talked about him in an episode the year before. And then now here we are besties with him and recommending his podcast. Check out Think Fast, Talk Smart. It's a podcast that comes out twice a week on Mondays and Thursdays. They go over everything about communication and speaking, whether it's presenting, small talk, networking. They cover it all. And communication is such a universal topic. There's something for everyone.
Starting point is 00:45:54 This is also a very full circle moment for Gene and me because I actually saw Jenna when I was 15, maybe 14. This was when I was, I think, a freshman in high school or something. and Jean had bought tickets for the both of us to go to Glee the concert. So I have photos of me in my like Warbler's T-shirt. We need the photo. We don't have the photos. But imagine this. You guys can see it on the podcast we did with Jenna.
Starting point is 00:46:22 But yeah, I was just watching Jenna on stage like 15 years ago. And so this is like so. And it was a huge, huge gleeck. She was obsessed. I loved it too. And I was, I had just started my first job out of school. So I had some, you know, disposable income. And I was like, okay, I'm going to buy this as a really big gift for Sherey.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And even though I had started making money, I could still only afford like the worst tickets. So we were like in the literally the furthest back row of NASA Coliseum. All the way in NASA Coliseum. But it was like life changing. I have a Jenna story too. No, stop. No, I do. Because even though we kind of grew up in the industry together, it was always like,
Starting point is 00:47:07 rooting each other on from afar. Yeah. But I remember there used to be these big Halloween parties in the industry. Halloween was a big deal. And they had one at Pink Taco. R-A-P Pink Taco? It's not there anymore. It's still there?
Starting point is 00:47:21 Oh, no. Oh, I don't think it's still there. And I was at this Halloween party, and I went to go to the bathroom, and there was a long line. And so I'm just waiting there. And then I see the person in front of me has, like, these pink knee highs. And then I look up. You're outing Jenna right now. It's Jenna.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Because it was a Halloween costume. I don't know. Do you remember? No, I don't remember. And I look up and it's Jenna and I was like, oh my gosh. I'm right behind Jenna. She's ugly. She starts singing a solo for you.
Starting point is 00:47:50 No. But that's the funny part is that Allie and I didn't really know each other. But every time we'd go on auditions, sometimes we'd go on the same things. But you would hear like the same names over and over like, oh, you didn't get it, but Ali did. And she'd always, they'd always be like, Ali got it and I'm like Ali got it and honestly like cheering
Starting point is 00:48:10 her on because it's not if it's not my part it's not you know we're so different first we're like who's this bitch yeah like this bitch no no revenge we're just so different but like you know but we'll go up for the same stuff but always it was like this like phantom girl
Starting point is 00:48:26 that I was like get it Ali and now you guys are C O and CEO of AGC you work together every single day We do. We're on Zoom every day. Like for hours. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:41 But again, I think what we're talking about is a leap of faith moment. I kind of remember how this all happened. And Jenna, I don't want to speak for you, but I'll tee up the story is I got a call from Jenna one day. And you're like, I just had a baby. You're like, I just had a baby. Yeah. Yeah. And I had always admired what Ali had built with AAG, you know, for the seven years before I came on.
Starting point is 00:49:04 and she had built a community and a place of safety and a place of, you know, belonging. And we had always been talking about a podcast. And she was like, I want to do a podcast. And I was like, I'll help you. But then, you know, we had babies and life happened and she did Toy Story. And it was just like we were working.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And I had had my kid and my second kid. And I said, what are you doing with Asian American Girl Club? And she said, I just feel like this is the time that we got to get real serious with it because you were bootstrapped before, you had really kind of done this rogue on your own with our amazing chief of staff, Tia, and built this amazing brand by yourself. And so I said, well, let me help. Let me come on.
Starting point is 00:49:47 What do you need? How can I be of assistance? And so we started working together, and it's been really amazing. It's been so wonderful to, you know, work alongside her as a friend and a colleague and somebody just like deeply respect you know like what a joy it is to enjoy the people that you work with so important yeah it's it's really like life's true luxury to to love the people that you work with and enjoy and be happy and excited to go to work every day and be like oh I get to see my friend you get to see my best friend yeah we always like to say like keep it in the family and
Starting point is 00:50:24 it's it's true like you're legitimately doing that but we're legitimately blood related literally. We have to find those people, right, that just get you and are, you know, going to go through the ups and the downs, the highs and the lows because this isn't, it ain't easy. What you're doing, the amount of work it takes that I've learned to do a podcast and all of the stuff in between, we're backstage and we're like, okay, now I got to do this. And you're like, let's make a TikTok.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And it's just never ending, right? So I really applaud you ladies for just everything that you've done. It's so inspiring. Nice. Should we go to an audience question? Yeah, let's do it. You want to ask the first one or the second one? Yeah, the first one.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I pick this question. I would love to hear y'all ladies' answers on this. So Asian American female voices have become louder in this generation. Love. Love. Love. What challenges do you still see as persistent or areas we need to work on? Thank you to the audience member who submitted this question.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yes. I definitely think asking for more. It's something that I still struggle with. I get like embarrassment after when I kind of stand up for myself or even if I'm speaking about myself. I'll be like, oh my gosh. Like why did I say that? I don't sound humble.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Like I sound like I'm asking for too much. And I think that's just something that comes like you were saying with practice. when I first started even doing press and doing interviews, I would say things and I'd get so embarrassed after. And then I kind of realized that even if I feel that way, I need to push through that. And it gets easier every single time to kind of refine your voice. And no one can really take your story.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And no one can take that away from you, right? It's my perspective. It's how I see it. And I always try to look through that lens now of, okay, if people want to say this or that, like that is, that's my truth. So that's all I can go off of. I can't beat that. That was so good, Allie.
Starting point is 00:52:35 It's not a competition, Jen. No, I mean, it's always a competition. Ellie. No, I'm just kidding. It's, no, I think it was perfectly said. I totally agree. Yeah, and I think people are asking you because they want to hear from you. That's something that I think it's easy to forget.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Like, we don't just have a platform because we're just like speaking into the ether. I think it's actually really important to be who we are and to put it out there and to show people that it's okay and you should be speaking up. Yeah. And I think really beautiful things, my takeaway is that like really beautiful things come from moments of discomfort. Like making the ask that's uncomfortable or like choosing the scary path like you said, Allie and like being brave but like running towards the thing that makes us uncomfortable. which is the hard thing and not the easy thing. And I think the second aspect to running to the hard thing is having, just knowing that there'll be people who support you on the other side of that
Starting point is 00:53:34 because I think that's huge. AAG would not exist without all of the people who helped along the way who were like, I'll wear the shirt or, you know, talked about it in rooms. So I would say without that, it's pretty lonely and scary. And I think that was the first part of our career. and then once kind of representation happened, I mean, even just us teaming up, right? It's like, it's just such a morale booster of like, okay, this is hard, but at least we're in this together. Guys, the first ever collaboration between AAG Tiger Sisters Live podcast show.
Starting point is 00:54:10 More to come, more to come. Yes. I think the last thing I'll say is that it is about community. It's like everyone in this room, like just like look around the person next to you, the people that you, the people that you, you will meet, like before and after, we have our reciprocity ring or that board, that white board, put down your ask. Like, this is why we're so excited to do this live show is to meet you and also to ask and also receive help, whether it's offer a hand or a recommendation or a babysitter or travel
Starting point is 00:54:39 wrecks, whatever it is. Like, this is community. This is real life. I love it. Something interesting has been happening lately, which is people have been telling us that watching Tiger Sisters is like getting a free MBA. Right, because every single Tiger Sisters episode is so well researched. We bring case studies, we bring mini exercises, we bring frameworks from everything that
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Starting point is 00:55:31 And now back to our show. Should we move on to our next segment? Yes, guys, we have an exciting next segment. And some of you guys might be wondering, where the heck has Dylan been? Where is he doing? Let's get that funny guy back up. Hey, he's served and he's back. Tiger fans.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I'm Steve Harvey-Sahn. You guys are familiar with Family Feud, right? We'll get ready for the first ever Tiger Family Feud. Yay! That's right. We asked 150 people,
Starting point is 00:56:07 a.k.a. all of you, questions to these answers. And all of our teams, our teams will obviously be Sherry and Jean and Ali and Jenna, and we will be reading off all the answers. guys have buzzers, the first one to click in,
Starting point is 00:56:22 we'll be the first to guess. Are we ready for the Tiger Family Feud, everybody? And these are the survey questions that you guys answered. This is why we sent it out. Like I said, this live show is a roller coaster. It's all about you. High energy. Absolutely. Okay, number one,
Starting point is 00:56:40 biggest red flags in dating. A, love bombing. B, bad texting. C, no friends. Sad. D. talks about crypto too much and E still figuring things out. Okay, Gina Cherie.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Is it D talks about crypto too much? It is not talks about crypto too much. It's your terms. Oh, okay. A, love bombing. It is not love bombing. The answer was C, no friends. No friends.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Wait, you guys can also yell at your answer too. I'm curious to hear. Because the survey was what you guys told us in the polls. Disney Zaddy. Okay, question number two. I love this question. Who is the number one misunderstood Disney Zaddy?
Starting point is 00:57:27 A, Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, gay. B, Jafar, gay. C, the Beast, straight. D, Scar, gay. E, the Huns from Mulan, bisexual. Who? Okay, yes, yes, yes. D.
Starting point is 00:57:46 D? Skye? It is not D. I'm so sorry. Okay. Okay. I think it's E, the Huns from Milan. It's not the Huns from Milan, even though they're the hottest.
Starting point is 00:57:56 C? The beast. It's the beast, everyone. It's the beast. Wait, it's the beast. What do people overspend on? A, coffee. B, Uber, Slavs, Lish, Friarcher.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Three, concert tickets. D, skincare. E, eating out slash DoorDash. That's food. Okay, yes, Allie. E, eating out, DoorDash. It is. Eating Out in DoorDash.
Starting point is 00:58:19 You guys win the point. Yes. Okay. Question number four. Best Childhood TV theme song. A, Sweet Life of Zach and Cody. Are you going to sing them to him? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Okay. This is the sweet life. Arthur. What a wonderful kind of day. SpongeBob, who lives in a pineapple under the theme. Hand them up. You get the best of both worlds. E.
Starting point is 00:58:46 You're moving to your auntie and your uncle. in Bel Air. F. That's so raven. It's the future I can see. All right. Buzz in. Okay, Sheree.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I would say the most universal one is F. That's So Raven. Good guess. That's not the answer, yes? Fresh Prince of Bel Air. It is Fresh Prince of Bel Air. All right. Best Asian snack.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Number one. A. Maggie noodles. B. Strawberry pocky. C. Spam Musubi. five of four chocolate pie E half flakes and F honey butter chips Okay yes jean I think it's strawberry pocky Good guess it is not strawberry coffee
Starting point is 00:59:31 No guys C spam musubi I'm proud of y'all proud of y'all All right um number six best Broadway show A wicked B lay miss C fan of mother opera D Hamilton E glee Please not a Broadway show I didn't even know that was a That was a trickle
Starting point is 00:59:53 The one with the naked Daniel Radcliffe Akhus Okay, yes Jenna Hamilton That's my favorite But it's not Hamilton Okay
Starting point is 01:00:04 A wicked It's wicked We love wicked Okay Number seven Best way to heal after a heartbreak A Girls Trip
Starting point is 01:00:15 B blocking them C revenge bod D getting with his or her or their best friend. E, new hobbies. F, get bangs. Get bangs. Okay, yes, Jenna.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Get bangs. It is not get bangs. C, revenge bod. It is not revenge bod. It was a tie between girls' trip and new hobbies. That's a good one. That's a good one. Okay, number eight, the worst corporate phrase.
Starting point is 01:00:43 A, let's double click on that. B, that's low-hanging fruit. C, let's circle back on it. D, I don't have the bandwidth. E, we're like a family. These are all bad. Okay, yes, Jean. C, let's circle back on it.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Close, it is not let's circle back. Yes, Jenna. E, E. It's E, we're like a family. This is not the Olive Garden. Not. All right. What is the number one thing people pretend to understand?
Starting point is 01:01:17 A, crypto, B, modern art. C, wine, D, taxes, E-A-I or F-A-H-A. Okay, okay, yes. Please do not pretend to understand taxes. I feel like that's a trap. Okay. I would say C, wine? It is not wine.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yes, Allie. A-Crypto. It is not crypto. It is AI. It is AI, everybody, yes. Okay, final question. What gives you the ick fastest? A.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Mosquitoes. B, a man wearing flip-flops at a bar. Not good. C. Whenever someone says the word moist. D. Stereat tortilla chips. And E. Infringement on personal space. Okay, yes, Jenna.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Flip-flops. Good one, but it's not flip-flops. Yes, Sheree. Infringement on personal space. Infringement on personal space. Was someone keeping score? You guys are the winners. You guys win.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Okay. And also a quick thank you to our vendors and partners today. You guys found some goodies on your chair, under your chairs. Hopefully you guys got sandals at the check-in with your tote. You can buy your AAGC merch. Yay! But we're not quite done yet. Okay, everyone.
Starting point is 01:02:46 This is a historic night for many reasons, because not only is it the first Tiger Sisters AAG collab, It is also the collab Feet Le Niz. Are we ready, everyone? Are we ready? Take it away. I dreamed a podcast
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Starting point is 01:04:26 Singing the song of growing cash It is the music of the people Who just love to save and invest When gone to the bus I translate you I hope you make more dough It's in our blood and it's to I'm a transition
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Starting point is 01:05:32 And if you're watching a guest. One more place. Give it up for the Tiger Sisters in Asian American Girls Club. Yes. Yes. Okay. Before we go, I want everyone in this room. room to look around for a second and this room is full of people trying to become something,
Starting point is 01:06:16 return to something or rediscover something. And that is what reinvention is, not becoming a different person, but becoming more yourself. Thank you, Jean Shereen, Ali, and Jenna. And thank you for being here tonight. Give it up for yourselves, you guys.

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