TigerBelly - Bonus Belly: Bobby's Dream Guest, Stardew Valley Creator Eric Barone (ConcernedApe)

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Stardew Valley’s Eric Barone (ConcernedApe) Joins the Pod! Bobby goes full fanboy as he meets the mastermind behind Stardew Valley. It’s the ultimate crossover—The Slept King meets the Chill King. Cozy chaos, pixel dreams, and one very special BONUS BELLY. Pre-order the new TigerBelly 500 merch and collectibles HERE

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You have to understand you have to understand You have to understand you're like Denzel to me Washington anyway, um that was bad, but um I'm a huge fan and Let's begin so um do I need to introduce everyone in the room or no? Introduce the room. Yes, so can we? Yeah, yeah, have you ever met Mexicans before? Once or twice

Only twice? Twice, yeah, yeah, meet two or three times too. This is one. We got this one out of Texas. Yeah, and he's a hard worker I am. Yeah, yeah, and then we have a Filipino. Have you met a Filipino before? I have yeah This one we call Juliana. Yeah, and she's in college, and she lives in this house currently, and she's like my niece, Eric. Okay.

Okay, my name is Bobby Lee. I'm a comedian of sorts. I've done a variety of different work on television and film, but mostly online lately, you know? I have a podcast. I'm a comedian of sorts. I've done a variety of different work on television and film, but mostly online lately You know, I have a podcast this one. I'm so nervous. This is how have you ever seen me this nervous? He's actually very nervous. I'm very nervous dude. Okay, Eric you pull the mic a little closer. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you talk to him in a different way Yeah, that was great. Oh, it's he do what he just did dude. That's concerned a closet. Is this good? Yeah, that was great. See what he just did to it?

That's a concerned date, bro. Is this good? Yeah, yeah. So you have to understand, Eric, I've had many people on this pod, okay? To say Judd Apatow, George Lopez, David Spade, Jordan Peele, we've had many people on this pod, right? We've had some very glorious women as well. Yeah. Like Whitney Cummings, who else? Lisa Gilroy.

Lisa Gilroy, et cetera, et cetera. But you're the one that I'm actually the most starstruck on. Well, I'm honored. But is that, do you feel weird? No. Okay, good. I've heard that you're a big Stardew Valley fan.

Not just big, dude. I'm like, it's my life. Like all the rules of life I've learned from Stardew. Okay. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, you can't get red car habits the first year so you can only get in the second year, right? But you can get it through the merchant and sometimes there's drops at the skull cavern that you can get it. Right. This is how deep I am. Okay. Okay. I tried to do the community center the first year. I'm one of those So have you done it? Yes. Okay every time have you reached perfection? Yes. I have I've been to the summit

Of course, I have it done everything. No, I still play it. I still play it. Yeah. Yeah, because you discover more things But so let's start Okay, so I I don't know if you already have this. I don't have anything. Okay, it's the Stardew Valley cookbook. I also wrote a little message to you. Oh my god. That's his cry face. That's his real cry face. It's his cry and his... Oh my god! What?

Oh! Can you read it to the audience? Bobby, I'm really happy you love Stardew Valley. Thank you for having me on your show, Eric. Oh my god. We'll having me on your show Eric. Oh my god We'll put it yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna put this goes in my bedroom, dude Okay, when I'm good when I'm this is gonna be I'm not gonna be thinking about you. Whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking about penny or Okay, yeah, yeah, thank you. Okay. Now. This is a kind of a secret. Oh, I don't know we could open it now

Can I open it? Yes. Yeah. Thank you so much Eric. Okay, so um, this is a kind of a secret. Oh, I don't know we could open it now. Can I open it? Yes? Yeah, thank you so much Eric. Okay, so This is a magical. It's a little bit wacky. It's wacky. Now this bag. Can I have the bag? Or do you want the bag? I'd prefer to have the bag All right, so here we go. Oh my god. What hold on? Oh My god, do you like Sam I love Sam a lot, but why is he naked? Uh, I'm not sure This was this piece was entrusted to me by a fan who loves Sam I think they were from Korea Yeah, but I can have this? Yeah. Are

you real? I'm real. Yeah. Can you sign at the end? Can you sign the button? Yeah. Oh my god. I've spent several good years with him and I'd like to entrust him to you so he can see more of the world. I'm gonna worship it. Okay. I'm gonna worship. Now, Sam, if you don't know in the game, right? What game? Start you, okay, let's start from that. Let's just get this. Some fans don't know about it. Thank you so much, thank you so much, thank you so much.

Calm down, Bobby. Calm the fuck down. Calm down, be cool, dude. You're a fucking headliner, dude. Take it easy. You're a TV star. Yeah, I'm a TV star. I've done shit, dude.

All right, here we go. Okay, hello. Welcome to the podcast. I'm Bobby, and wow, we we go. Okay, hello. Welcome to the podcast, I'm Bobby, and wow, we have an extraordinary person, very good person here. I got it, dude, all right? And so, many years ago, my brother's, at the time, somebody he was seeing,

goes, have you played Stardew Valley? Because she knows that I like simulation games, okay? So I go, oh, I'm interested in that. I played it and I think I played it for 100 hours, the first of all. I mean it was like nonstop because you would uncover and discover things. It's not here, guys listen,

Stardew Valley isn't just a simulation game. It's much more and that's why it's unique, okay? It's an RPG. I think it's an RPG, okay? So, and it was so, when I played it, I go, it would make me like put goosebumps on my body because I could go, oh wow, that was so like, he thought of that, you know what I mean? It's a game that's completely thought through. So Eric Barone made the game by himself, I completely thought through. So Eric Barone made the game by himself, right? That's right, yeah. What year?

I started working on it in 2012, and it came out in 2016. Wow. And so you were working at other developing companies? No, no. Okay, what were you doing? I was working part-time as a theater usher. So the theater that I played?

Yeah, the Paramount. The Paramount yeah you worked there, right? Yeah, so when I was backstage they go Eric Barone used to work here, and I went ape shit I go I went ape goo goo crazy like what's where's the CD set in? Where did he roll? I'm not kidding you dude. I was like what the fuck right so you play you work there Yeah, yeah at At the Paramount? Yeah. Beautiful theater, by the way. What a great acoustic.

Anyway, and so then you met your girlfriend, and let me guess, I think I have it. Was it a pretzel place? Yeah, that's right. Or Auntie Ann's? Yeah. Dude, bro, look at me, dude. What's your order?

What, Auntie Ann's? Yeah. On behalf of him? Yeah. Pepperoni and jalapeno on the fucking thing. Wow at me, dude. What's your order? What? Auntie Anz? On behalf of him? Yeah. Pepperoni and jalapeno on the fucking thing. Wow. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, with a fucking cheesy sauce, dog. That's a special one. Yeah, yeah, with jalapenos, cheesy sauce, right?

Yeah, yeah. You have that, right? Yeah, spicy cheese. Yeah, yeah. Spicy cheese. Spicy cheese. All right, so you worked there. Right, right.

And then you developed the game, took you four years. Yes. Right, and you just locked yourself in a room. Basically, yeah, I mean, I was working probably on average like 12 hours a day. It was just working on Stardew Valley, you know, seven days a week and then sometimes going and working at the Paramount Theater. But it was a ton of work.

I was totally locked in. I can only imagine. And also you did the music. Yep. Oh wow. All the music in it, and they're good songs, dude. Like if Radiohead wrote it, I'd be like, that's a good Radiohead song, dude.

You know what I mean? Not really, but you know what I'm saying. Maybe you can pitch a song for the next one. Maybe, maybe, because maybe, do you have all the music written for Haunted? Not all of it, but some of it. I have some gripes, but I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna tell you later about them.

It's not really your fault, but I've had some anger moments. But let's start from the beginning first, okay? Sounds good. I've had some rage moments, dude. There were some times I wanted to tweet, but I didn't. Okay, so here's the deal, okay? Four years, and then what happened there?

After you knew you were done? Well, kind of. I mean, I just decided I had to be done. I needed to release something. Yeah. You know, and that's why I've been working on updates ever since is because I never was like, you know, I'm totally finished.

There's always more I could add. So I mean, when the four years were done, it was basically just like, okay, I've been working on this for four years, what am I doing with my life? Like, I don't know what's gonna happen. People were like getting worried about me because I was like four years behind everyone else who graduated at that same time,

and I had nothing to show for it. But I was like, I need to release something. And I felt like the game was at a point where it was okay. So I was like, all right, I'm just gonna pull the trigger and release it. Let me guess, so the game originally, because there's been so many great updates. So the original game was the farm, obviously,

the communities that are all that was stuff, Jojo Market. There was no island then, but the desert was there. Desert was there, the casino was there. And then what else? And then, you know, Willie Beach, all that. Yeah, so all the standard game was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there wasn't a night market.

Oh yeah, no night market. No night market. No night market, that's right. Let me guess what else wasn't there. The extra pavements of like cutting corners, like you know how Robin, and you can open up other ways to get through places, the extra pavements of like cutting corners. Like you know how Robin, and you can open up other ways to get through places

like from Leah's cottage to the beach. You can get through the- The community upgrades. Am I a nerd? I don't know what's- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm crazy, but you know what I'm saying. We have the, this is why I want to talk to somebody

that knows what the fuck I'm talking about because it's all I talk about. He talks about this this after every podcast. I'll just like, huh. Yeah, Arsenal FC and then this is what I'm into, okay? So that was a new thing. And then I have another question for you. Are these characters in it people in your life?

There's one character that is basically based on one of my friends, but most of them are not directly someone in my life. They're just kind of like archetypes of people. Oh, I see. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. So you know a Penny, similar to Penny, but like, yeah.

I've known Pennies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've met Pennies too though. You're right. There's some pennies out there. Right. And then Haley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, In general you think? In general I think it's actually either Leah or Abigail. Oh Abigail, we love Abigail. Yeah.

Well you know Abigail? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you describe for the audience? Jules, why don't you describe Abigail for us? She's like the opposite of, no, the same, she's like the girl version of Johnny the emo girl. The emo boy?

The emo boy, Sebastian. Yeah, emo boy. Sebastian. Oh, Sebastian, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Johnny? Sorry, sorry. Where did that come from? You're emo boy, Sebastian. Yeah, emo boy. Sebastian. Oh, Sebastian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Johnny? Sorry. You're embarrassing me, dude.

Oh, Johnny Depp. Maybe Johnny Depp is what you're thinking. Yeah, that's the connection. Well, if there's ever a movie, I feel like Johnny Depp would be pretty good. We can talk about that later. Yeah, so you think Abigail and Leah. Do you know why Leah though? It's just based off of what I've seen from the community and polls and Leah. Do you know why Leah though? It's just based off of like, you know,

what I've seen from the community and like polls and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know why Leah because she has her own pad. Okay. Don't you think? Probably. I mean, yeah, she might be like,

you might bump into her more too. That's the thing. Right. She's always everywhere. She's hanging out by the river. Yeah. She's paint somewhere like she's in the beach, you know what I mean, painting.

Yeah. That statue is beautiful by the way, that she gives you the river. She's paint somewhere, like she's in the beach, you know what I mean, painting. That statue's beautiful, by the way, that she gives you the friendship statue. Oh yeah, yeah. I really like it. What's so funny? It's amazing. It is amazing.

That statue is great. And when she comes to your house and gives it to you, it gives me goosebumps every time. Thank you so much for that. Of course. I really appreciate that. So who do you usually go for? Penny.

Okay. Yeah, because she's poor. That's the leading statue. No, I I just feel like here's the thing I feel like you know I can more impress penny with my legit farm that she needs to get out of the house I think you want to she wants to move a ham yeah, I've saved her for her mom's a little Alky-alky like drinks a lot. I think you know I mean hard worker right yeah Yeah, yeah bus driver one of the best driver bus drivers in star doing mean? Hard worker, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bus driver, one of the best bus drivers in Star

doing things. Oh, she's great. Yeah, she's great, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I love Pam. Yeah, and then Haley, I don't know why. I like photographers, I think. Okay. And she also seems hot.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the one girl I haven't married is Haley's sister. I see, how come? It's too hippie-like for me. With the parrot. you should give her a chance no no I'll tell you why won't because she's into things I don't like like crystals and rocks right like sister Haley that's so Haley also Emily

is Emily is Haley sister also do they have the same parents I don't think they do well you know a little weird yeah know, it's unclear. It's unclear. It's a little weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so Emily, she's also really into fashion, like clothing, right? She does that little fashion show at the, let me guess his name. What's the fucking mayor's name?

What the fuck, dude? This is brilliant, come on. Yeah, just give me the first initial of the mayor. L. Mayor L. Yeah, mayor, oh my god. I can't believe I don't know that we're He's right here. Yeah, I forgot. I forgot. Mayor Lewis Lewis Mary I love me or Lewis good guy. You know I mean you got to put the beats in his fridge But what if Q's little liking you know mean yeah tunnel know, I mean when you put the battery in the tunnel thing, am I not right?

You're right. I can't even tell you what you put it to get that to unlock that. You gotta put the ten beats in the fucking Lewis's fucking fridge, right? You got to put one of those fucking blue things, shell things What's it called? The blue shells that you only come out in the winter on the beach. The rainbow shell. Rainbow shell, right? You're gonna put that in the, where the train station thing is and that little thing in the, right? And then you're gonna put a fucking, with a solar essence in the mouth

of the fucking skeleton dragon, is it? You got it. Exactly, right? Those are the three things you have to do, right? Dude, I could win any fucking stardew, fucking trivia thing, dude. Do you believe I'm a fan now, bro? You're a believer, right? I'm a believer dude, right too. Okay, so um

Explaining the game to the Believe now I do all right, but all the things that I know but anyway, you know I mean you don't even know that much Right. No, I just started last year Oh, yeah, you started last year, but you know what some people they don't you guys some people don't play it the right way You are like obsessed No, I play it the right way, but also obsessed Eric is there a right way to play it? Is there right? No, I don't I don't think so. I'm sorry debate Eric. Oh. I'm sorry. There is a right way to play Let's hear how Jules plays it and see if it offends the creator. Okay. Can I ask no?

I have another I have a different fucking analogy for you. I just have a quick question I know you do a hold on stop for a second. I mean shut the fuck up Ask the question ask the question Like a breakdown. How come these are people are non-marriage candidates? Because I can explain I can I can explain it to you Like a breakdown, how come these people are non-marriage candidates? Because... You're old? I can explain it to you if you may. Go ahead, please. I want to hear your explanation.

What's wrong with Clint? He's a good looking guy. Well, Clint is sort of an incel. Oh, okay. Come on, let's be honest. Let's get real with this shit right now. Let's get real with this shit. If Clint was in the Stardew, he would be doing. Let's be honest. Let's get real for this shit right now It was in the stardew he would be like doing some crazy shit out there like you know I mean I'm not gonna say like he'd be in a forest in a cabin right yeah that kind of thing you know I mean

Making things other things, but my point is is that he's I don't trust him. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he could have a Redemption arc you know but do that maybe you can do that for an update. I would like to, I mean, okay, you wanna know the real answer? Yeah, yeah. The real answer is, because I didn't have enough time to make everyone a marriage candidate. I mean, honestly, I've said,

I would like you to be able to marry Robin or Demetrius and break up their marriage and cause chaos in the town. Right, right, right, right. But have all the consequences of that. Right. Like not make it like, oh it's fun and happy, like everyone's mad at you. Everyone hates you.

But it's like, you know, I would love to be able to do all kinds of stuff. But you can't because- It's so much work. But also it's not the tone of the game. Well, it kind of is. There's a little bit of stuff where it's like getting a little bit too real, you know?

There is some weird real shit on it. But like things like the animal's not dying, you know? Well, there is some weird real shit in it. Yeah. But like things like the animal's not dying, you purposely did that. Oh, that's true. Yeah, right. You can't harm animals, but you can totally cause chaos to all the people in town.

Okay, okay. And then, so also you can have children in the game, right? I have another question about that. Okay. When you get rid of them, as you do, you can, here's what, there's a witch, right? Up north, okay? There's a witch up north, and inside her,

she's never there, by the way, I don't know where she is when you're there, but she's never there. And that one dude that greets you in the beginning, that little fuckin' munchkin green thing. The henchman. Henchman, where you have to get the void mayonnaise mayonnaise and then he scurries away I don't know why he loves that stuff so much, but you really need him to get the make strange buns, right?

Yes, yeah exactly and also another thing is that? Perry Winkle Right right to make yeah void maggot mayonnaise. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually in the cookbook. You can yeah It's in the cookbook. It's in this yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, so you need a periwinkle too, and you can only get that you know me obviously in the like small ponds It's obvious. Yeah. Yeah through our making the What are you those brown little circle things? Will you catch perhaps know where you catch?

Oh crab pot the crab pots you can get periwinkles through that through your arm If you're on a farm if you have if anyone wants to play and it's what I'm trying to say So what was I saying again oh yeah oh yeah non-marriage candidate yeah right right also um there's a couple of old people that live there they're married you know there's people there's a lot of married their people there you know I mean and you're not gonna marry a homeless guy are you or no no Linus yeah maybe I don't see some of them it doesn't make sense Linus doesn't want to be locked down oh that's right he's a rolling

stone you know all right right right and that was the thing we're in you know See some of them it doesn't make sense Linus doesn't want to be locked down. Oh, that's right. He's a rolling stone You know all right, right, right, right? And that was the thing where in you know people originally were getting on my case They wanted you to be able to have Linus move on to your farm and live with you on your farm Yeah, that was a big request because he's living in a tent and people felt bad for him. Yeah, and I was like no I'm not gonna do that So I actually added in a cutscene where Linus is like you can ask him to move on to the farm Yeah, or not, but if you do he's like no, I'm not gonna do that. So I actually added in a cut scene where Linus is like, you can ask him to move on to the farm or not, but if you do, he's like, no, I will not do it.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, but you could have a ghost living with you. Yeah, well that's- Crobus. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, Crobus isn't a ghost. What is he?

I don't know, he's a shadow person. Oh, he's not a ghost. That's a new discovery for me. I always thought he was a ghost. He's solid. Oh, he's solid. He's not. OK, I didn't know. Yeah, I'm sorry. I learned that's a I learned something interesting. Yeah. And I don't know why.

I don't know why Krobus and the dwarf have beef. Well, you know, their people have been fighting for thousands of years. For thousands of years. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So where does Krobus come from his people? Well, they all live underground. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, but Krobus is kind of an outcast It's not clear why exactly but he's like Jar Jar Binks kind of yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so and then how many oh there are several dwarfs in it

There are there's yes, there are several dwarfs in it. There are, yes there's another dwarf in the volcano. That's right. And it's kind of inferred that there are probably other dwarfs as well. Right. They're very reclusive. They are reclusive.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, how deep have you gone in this? Have you deciphered the secret messages on the walls in the skull cave or behind the forge in the volcano, Caldera? I feel like a shameful person. I did not decipher. Well, I think a lot of people haven't.

Yeah, I didn't even know. I've seen them, but I thought they were just gibberish. You can decipher them. You can? What do they, you don't want to reveal that? I can reveal it, it's fine. Then reveal one thing. Okay, well, in the volcano caldera.

Which one's that? That's where the forges at the top of the volcano, you know, where there's lava. Oh yeah, where the monkeys are. Yeah, yeah, the monkeys are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can watch the rings and all that. Yeah, the forges, yeah.

So there's like this plaque behind the forge that you can. I've seen it, I've seen it. Yeah, and you can decipher it it and it says something like, you know, we came from the stars or something. It basically implies that the dwarves are from outer space and they crash landed, their ship crash landed on the planet a long time ago and then they started living underground.

Ooh, ooh, about that, ooh, ooh, about that. The space capsule that breaks open. I've never seen the alien They say that you could see have you guys seen the clip? No, I've never seen the alien, but I have the capsule Yeah, the capsule it breaks a open right and so late at night I heard you can go to the bus stop and see him there. I've never seen him that where is you places Where is he I mean usually he kind of if you got a look in this Places that aren't where you walk, and you'll see like,

there'll be like two trees, and he'll walk in between them really quick. Oh, I thought he was just gonna be standing like this. No, no. Oh, okay. It's like you'll see something out of the corner of your eye. Right, what does he look like? He's just like a little guy.

Oh, he's a little guy. Yeah, he's like kind of a little guy, and he's totally black. Is he a dwarf or no? No. Okay. Can you be friends with him? No, no, no, no, No. Okay. Can you be friends with him? No. No, no, no, no.

That's an interesting thing that, there's another interesting thing is that there's not much with the witch, she'll just fly by. What is her problem, by the way? I wanna add, here's the problem I have with the witch, okay? It's like, I don't want void eggs. You know what I mean?

I don't want my slime to turn black. Right. She does those two things, right? She does, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Why does she do that? Eric Barone? She's filled with envy. Oh, she is. She's spiteful.

Right. Because, you know, it's kind of implied that the wizard did something to upset her. Well, they used to hook up, right? Something like that, yeah. They used to be together. And then the wizard did something, yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she turned green with envy.

Oh, she wasn't green at all? She wasn't green, no. It's like wicked. It's like, you know, she's like, oh, I'm used to be together. And then the witch did something, yeah. And then she turned green with envy. Oh, she wasn't green at all. She wasn't green, no. It's like wicked. It's like, oh my, it's wicked again. I haven't seen wicked so far. That's why I'm just agreeing with Gilbert.

They stole it from me. I think they stole it from me, because I've never. Wow, there's a history of that sort. But yeah. An affair, you think? Something maybe like that. I can't say one way or the other, but it's implied.

And then, you know, now she's just cursing the countryside because she's mad. Wow, she needs therapy. Something, yeah. Yeah, so then also, can we talk about Harvey for a second? Okay. You know, he's a doctor. Yeah.

You know, why does he like coffee so much? Well, I think he's thinking that there's antioxidants in it and studies have shown if you drink coffee, you know, your life is longer. This is what I'm talking about, this guy, dude. He's a fucking genius, dude. This guy's a fucking genius.

Now, I want you to play a little game with me, all right? Name me a character and I wanna see if I can find a liked thing they like. Um, Willy. Because, oh, Willy, he likes Sea Urchin? Super Sea Urchin, the purple one. Yes, super cucumber. He likes diamonds.

Okay, well, pretty much everyone likes diamonds. I know, but does he not? Yeah, yeah. Don't be a fool. Well, yeah. I gave you, does he like super Sea Urchins? Yeah, yeah, super cucumbers. Super cucumbers, yeah, that's what it is. The purple one. Yeah. Yeah super cucumbers. Yeah, that's what it is the purple one

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's good. Okay. Give me another one. Um That's fine for me. Let's do Marnie Marnie's the um the fat lady that lives She likes pink cake Does she and I don't even know yeah, Marnie. I know Haley likes pink cake No, Marnie likes pink cake too. I got a lot of people like once you click on Marnie. Yeah, I kick on click on Marnie and Then whatever like there you go. Yeah pink cake, you know more than I do I'm not good at I don't remember the you don't remember the likes. Okay. All right, go go go two more do two more

Okay, I have a question after that. Okay, you have a question, but do two more. I have another question after that George oh Go two more do two more. I have a question after that. Okay, you have a question, but do two more I have another question after that George oh George is so easy. Um, he likes um, it's leaks. Yeah, there you go. He likes leaks and That's all I'll give them but you know what I do. Yeah, this is what I love about your game. Okay, I Do the thing work like when you forage all the things that you forage is iridium level. I where like when you forage all the things that you forage is iridium level. I give him iridium leaves. Oh, that's nice. Right. And he likes you more with that. Yeah. In fact, if you give the characters in an iridium level anything that they like, right, it's going to they're going to go up more points in terms of like, right. Yeah. You developed it. Yeah.

Okay. Give me one more and then we'll move on. Okay. Um one more. Let's do Kent That's a tough one. That's not okay. Oh, yes roasted hazelnuts Yeah, you got it right. I have another one too. Okay. I have another one He likes roasted hit and he has like not an artichoke dip. It's a not an artichoke. It was an artichoke dip. I Forgot what it was but yeah, but roasted hair hazelnut fiddlehead risotto. Yeah, I feel like that was a fiddlehead risotto That's what it was. Yeah, so go what's your question? So just for the audience that might be so everything Game you're a loser fuck off all the losers You're a loser. Don't have nothing to do. I want to ask ask Eric a question

Very successful game probably the biggest game right now ever in history What was the inspiration like what what got the creative mind going I can answer that I'd love to hear Eric's answer playing Harvest Moon when I was a kid yeah I was my favorite game duh that inspired me yeah Artie Valley yeah yeah so here's one out so you put out the game yeah the success must have been shocking. Definitely, yeah. I mean, it's like winning the lottery. Basically, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that's what it is. I mean, I went from a total nobody just coding in my bedroom, never thinking I would make it in any way, and then suddenly the game blows up, it's selling millions of copies. Wow. Didn't Elon put him in the Teslas?

Yeah, it's in the Tesla. Yeah, it's incredible. So then what was that year like? It was crazy, but I mean the thing is I had to immediately start fixing bugs and the game was so popular, I was like, I need to make a content update right away. So I just went into high gear and did what I needed to do. I didn't sit back and be like, oh, I made it. Wow, this is so cool. You know, like I didn't have time to do that.

But I mean, the one thing that must have been great is the money coming in, right? Yeah, it was great. It gives you security. I mean, it still is great. It's still selling a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's incredible.

And so then that year you were doing that, what was the main bug, you think, that people were, when one of them... Man, that was a long time ago. Okay. But I don't remember. Okay. But there were some bad ones that people were one of them man? That was a long time ago, but I don't remember okay, but there were some there were some bad ones

Hmm probably one of my favorite events. Yeah, miss what it's a little deep deep cut, but um it's a Willie's crab situation. Oh, yeah, I love that one, too, but you know why why you know why? Why do I like it? Yeah, why does Bobby like it? Why would I like that, you think? Is it the way that Willie refers to the crabs? No, dude. Is it the sail that happens afterwards?

Yes. Okay. What happens afterwards, and I'm gonna say something right now. What's going on here, EJ? Your emo robot keeps making a lot of noise. Okay, sorry, I bought an emo robot, sorry. You heard of that? No, I don't know something right now. What's going on here, EJ, what? Your emo robot keeps making a lot of noise. Okay, sorry, I bought an emo robot, sorry. You heard of that?

No, I don't know what that is. I wanted a pet, because I'm lonely. So I want someone to talk to at night. I'll tell you, the greatest, I think, meal that you can have in Stardew is the crab cakes. Right, being this, you to say stay fast all day long Unless you go to the skull caverns for some reason the time is different there, right? So it does run out a little quicker Yeah, yeah, right or no. No. Yeah, it's true. Why well

Wait, wait, no, no, the time actually goes slower in the skull cavern Oh it does in single-player and't. Oh, in multiple, okay. So the crab cake stays the same the whole time? I think the reason why I think that that is because I'm always there so late. Well, you might feel like it's running out quicker because the time goes slower, and I think that doesn't affect the,

it might not affect the crab timer. Oh, I see what I'm saying. I see what you're saying. I see what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying. It's like an illusion, but it is. It's an illusion, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the crab cake is the number one, I think, meal

that you can get. And at the crab pots, what I do is I do that little, what do you call it, when you can choose your, in the disciplines like foraging, you can, perks. Right, right. So one of the perks of the crab pots is, I know so much, huh? One of the two, that's either one or two perks

at the last level is, the fishing level is, you can either grab crabs and other things that don't have junk in it. Because sometimes when you do crab cut, there's some junk in it. Because sometimes when you do a crab cut, there's some junk in it like a stick or trash. And then there's, that's the one I do where it's just all crabs and stuff like that. You know what I mean?

And then there's another one where you don't have to put bait in it. Right? Yeah. Dude. I know, if only you could get both, right? I know, but you know what you did though? What? What did you do? Do you know what you did though? What?

I love it. Oh You did guy you know me You know, I don't like switching out rings. I'll be honest Yeah, I mean and you can go to the ford and you can merge rings Mm-hmm, and I'm gonna tell you right now who what my favorite rings are, but but okay. Okay? What do you think people's favorite rings are? Napalm ring. Great one. Burglar's ring. Lucky ring.

Yeah. Yeah. No, yours are my favorite. Okay. Burglar. I know how to get them too. Kill 500 sprites. There you go.

Sprites. What? They're little black balls that jump up and down and they're in the fucking frozen areas of the mine right kill 500 of them and you can check your progress if you go to the fucking fighters guild right mm-hmm okay and that and then slime charmer there's a lot slime I usually rock that one too yes one term isimecharm is great. But you can merge those two,

and then another one I like is the Java ring. It's harder to find. Yeah. Right? And then some sort of luck ring is fun too. Yeah, yeah. Napalm I sometimes use too as well. The lucky ring is the meta, because when you're doing skull cavern runs,

it just makes everything better. It makes the ladders appear more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, and also, who's Mr. Q-ee-lee? How do you say it? It's Q-I. Well, okay, this is an exclusive. Oh!

Your podcast. Oh! I've never, I've never revealed it before. I gotta put some music in. Oh, fuck it, let's go. Play a song with the lead up. Build it up. I gotta put some music in. Play some song with the lead up. Okay, that's good. I say Mr. Que.

Everyone's gonna hate that. It's Que. That's how I say it. And it's not Q? No. Okay, it's Que. But a lot of people say Chi or Ki or whatever. It's Que, guys.

Honestly, I don't care if people say it another way Yeah, why is he so? No, there's no color he's like he's dying He's got like a purple. Well, okay. He tells you he says that you know, he was born an ordinary boy But at some point he decided he wanted to become extraordinary Extraordinary. Yeah, you know, so like I think I think that that's the point when he turned blue I think you know what it is. He's drinking too much of that snake milk. Well that could be too Yeah, maybe that's the only thing I know about the snake milk

I know about the snake milk you got to go to a hundred level at the skull cowering guy Right. He's one of my favorite characters. He's great. Yeah, I like him and I love his little He's one of my favorite characters. He's great. Yeah, I like him and I love his little Golden chestnut room right right his walnut walnut I fucked up. I fucked up. I feel I'm blushing you can't see me blush by him. Okay, okay his room I love those little games, but the one there's one bullshit game. I hate what's that? Oh the let me guess Junimo cart No, that's fine. Okay. Yeah What's that? Oh that let me guess Junimo cart. No, that's fine. Okay. Yeah Have you ever been going through the skull with stop is it going through the skull cave without eating

No, I love that. Okay. What were you gonna say? Have you ever met someone like this like fan out not with Energy Really well about stardew. No, I mean, there's definitely people who are like I love stardew, but you know Maybe they're not like like quiz me Am I acting weird no It might not play it cool. I don't know if you're playing cool. Am I not playing it cool? I'm not playing call be cool be cool. All right Tell me what your least favorite kwe quest is. The kwe fruit bullshit.

Oh, okay. It's bullshit. Because then you have to get rid of all your crops on your fucking island farm, right? Then you gotta go to your fucking greenhouse. It's a whole thing. That's why the trick is to do it in winter. When there's nothing growing on your farm anyway.

There it is Because they grow in winter Concerned ape everyone Oh fuck I'm gonna do that now I'm gonna do it. I did not know that hack. Time to start a new Have you played on all the different farms? Well, I tried the beach one, but you can't There's certain areas you can't oh, no, you know what? It's sprinklers. You can't you? Yeah, that's bullshit. Yeah, it's fucking highway robbery guy

I'm not gonna do that. Well, that's kind of like a challenge farm a little bit You might say and I kind of like it because it reminds me of the original Harvest Moon where you had to water everything, right? You know, but if you elevate your you know me your you call it? The sprinkler? Not the sprinkler, but that. Oh yeah, upgrade your can. Your can, right? It sprays a lot. Right. Yeah. Here's another thing, last thing, okay? About forging. I mean, yeah forging is that I love that like you went from the galaxy sword. How do you get the galaxy sword, Jules? I have not got gotten the galaxy sword. How do you get the galaxy sword Jules? I have not got gotten the galaxy sword. I'm still have you heard of it. No, have you ever run into a prism shard?

So wait, what season are you on? Um, I'm currently in the I I have the ginger island what so wait, you're already on ginger island, but you don't have a galaxy sword You have a galaxy sword. Oh,, I know! You don't have a galaxy sword? No! What is it? Is it the purple sword? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a purple sword. No. It's the strongest sword.

And I keep dying on the fucking mine! I just keep, the dragons keep killing me! Do you look stuff up, or do you just try to figure it all out in game? I try to figure it out, and then if I... Oh, you gotta look it up. Oh, so is that the way to play it, you feel like? Well, no, I think it's... you can figure everything out in game. Or at least I tried to make it out and then if I- Oh, you gotta look it up. Oh, so is that the way to play it you feel like? Well, no, I think it's- You can figure everything out in game. Or at least I tried to make it that way.

I mean, with Galaxy Sword, there's like a riddle- I read the books. Yeah, you get the dwarves translation. How do you get the Galaxy Sword? Can I tell? Okay, go ahead, yeah. Okay. Oh, so go ahead.

Okay, well, should I just tell her outright or should I give her a hint? Oh, a hint. I would say first you gotta find all four of the Dwarvish translation books, okay? Or the Dwarvish Scrolls. Okay. Find the four Dwarvish Scrolls, bring them to the museum, you'll get a Dwarvish translation guide.

Then there is something in town which you can decipher, which will tell you in a riddle how to get the galaxy sword. Yes. Okay. But if you don't want wanna do all that, right? If you find a prism shard, have you found one of those? Look up a prism shard please. Prismatic shard.

Oh, prismatic shard, I'm prismatic. So confident. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, but you know what I'm saying. I can, they tell you what it looks like. Fucking asshole. Prismatic shard, my bad. Zoom in please.

No, I. You've never run into one of those? Well, if you find one of those, my friend. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. If you find one of those, my bad. Zoom in please. No, I. You've never run into one of those. Well, if you find one of those, my friend. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. If you find one of those, my friend, did you unlock the bus? Yeah, the bus.

Right, so you take a prism shard, in back of the merchant, you'll see three pillars. Okay. Go to the center of the pillar, hold the prism shard, and voila. Yeah, okay. You get a galaxy sword. The strongest based weapon in the game now, you can upgrade that galaxy sword as well. Make it stronger, swifter.

What's the top, top sword? The galaxy sword, but then you elevate it by, now I'm going to get into real, I forgot what they're called, but they're on you can turn it into not a galaxy sword, but another sword the infinity infinity blade Yeah, and then you can also put Jade on it and to make it stronger and different elements to make it stronger You can also make it sweep and you can you know me you can use it for different things Right, right, right perks. I mean on the sword, right which I love that element to it. Thank you so much for that Of course, you know, so thank you so much for this having Emily give you the sewing kit. Oh, yeah Thank you so much for that. Yeah, I don't like going all the way to her house so I can make clothes

Right, you're a man and you made that she it might be making you feel weird about being such a fanboy No, let's be real. No, it's okay. No, no, is it weird? No, not at all I feel not being I feel like I'm being am I being weird guys? No Good. It's just because I I'm gonna tell you why I'm fanboying. Okay, if I may I like being surprised and I'm a child at heart and I'm wins and wins whimsical Well, that's exactly and I'm whimsical. Well, that's exactly what I wanted to achieve.

So I love that you appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my favorite thing to do in Stardew Valley is add those little whimsical details. Yes, it's endearing. Yeah. I mean, the game is endearing and there's a lot of moments where you push hard

and you go, aw. That's why making the updates are so fun compared to like the four and a half year grind, the original grind, that part wasn't necessarily totally joyful. But making updates is fun because the game's already done, I'm just adding cool extra stuff, like the raccoons and the recent update.

I love them, cute guys. Have you totally maxed out their thing and seen the final cut scene? Yes I have. Okay. And also what I wanna to say here's my gripe now, okay? Okay, and I have to stand because I'm so angry about it. Okay, okay Should I stand too? I don't have to stand it makes it weird, but I might get a little angry. All right, okay Why would you drop the update for the PC and then I have to wait nine months?

I don't get it. Am I hurting your feelings? No, go on. Yeah, nine months to get the update for my fucking switch and my fucking console. Yeah. You know what I mean? I checked every day. I fucking read it every day. When, when, why, why, why is it? And I know you do it yourself. And I know you're stressed out because you have other games you're doing. But maybe have other people help you. No, I do have other help now.

That's the thing. Oh! Oh! Yeah, thanks a lot for that. Thanks a village. Since 1.3, there's been other people. Oh, they have? Yeah.

Thank God. And the ports have always been done by another company. Oh... So I'm not doing the ports myself. That's what it is. So I should be made angry at the port people. Well, you know, you gotta be angry at me. The buck stops with me.

No it doesn't. That's why I operate. It's the port people, cause I love you dude. I'm always gonna love you dude. You're my guy dude. Okay? I do take blame- I do take responsibility for the delays and I'm ashamed about it and I think it was really unfortunate Was that stressful for you because you absolutely oh my god. I can't imagine it was like yeah nine months of hell, you know

I'm sorry. It made me very depressed. Yeah But you know what I would do I go to go to YouTube and watch PC Player and just watch. That was fun. Yeah. Well, I wanna make sure that never happens again. So if there is another update. We live and we learn. Yeah, we live and we learn.

Are there other updates? Well, I won't confirm that there is, but there might, you know, I would say, I've said in the past, I'm never closing the book on Stardew Valley, there may always be future updates. I'll tell you this, if there was gonna be another update, I wouldn't announce it this time until it's completely finished.

And I mean, like, I want it to be done on all the platforms. Wow, that's a better way to do it. Yeah, because there was so much dissatisfaction this time around, and I was uh, it was just really not fun I'm sorry for me was stressful for my team. Yeah for everyone. I'm sorry I was one of probably one of the people that were like griping about and I apologize to that that's fucked up. You know me Yeah, but but my question would be and I've always thought this one I'm why not why why don't you stop doing updates

and just come up with Stardew Valley 2? Well, I mean that is an interesting question. I guess it's just that it's so much easier to just add more stuff to Stardew Valley than to make a whole new game from scratch. Really? Yeah, yeah, because Stardew Valley, it's all the systems, the major systems

are already all done. That's the stuff that's not fun to do. When I make an update, it's like, just throw in this, throw in that, let's add Green Rain. Just like these random ideas I have, whimsical ideas. That's what it was, the Green Rain, yeah, yeah, okay. Cause I'll play Stardew Valley myself, and when I'm playing, I'm like,

oh, wouldn't it be cool if there was this or that? And then I can just do it it and that's a new update. Oh, okay. It's just like, it's really just fun and like creative and spontaneous to do it that way then like make a whole new game. How much money you can make on a second game? Yeah, well.

I mean, I think I might eventually make a Stardew Valley 2 to be honest. Wow. And what are you charged for the updates? Nothing. Why not? Because, I don't know. You're a good guy.

It's for the fans. It's just like, I just don't care. I just don't care about money that much, to be honest. Like, all right. I'm not trying to virtue signal, but I just like, I honestly don't. I don't know what that means, but okay. I honestly don't care about money that much. I guess it's never been like the driving motivating factor.

Me too, me too. What I care about is people loving the game. See, like your excitement for the game and like these just silly little things. Games all right. And the fact that you love it. Yeah. All right.

It's great, yeah. Yeah. Well, I see. So, but you won't count out the idea of a two. No. Okay, good. No. Okay, good. But I didn't wanna just the idea of a two? No. Okay, good. No. Okay, good.

But I don't wanna just be the Stardew Valley guy, that's why I'm making Haunted Chocolateer. That's my next line of question, guy. All right. All right. I saw the first post on Haunted Chocolateer, what, three years ago? Could that be right, two years ago?

Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've lost count. And then when I saw it, I literally, and this is not a sexual thing, but I got naked and I ran around the house. Oh, that's a sexual thing? No, it wasn't.

I wasn't erect or anything. I just ran around. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah! You know what I mean? I went, it's figure eight, it's naked. You know what I mean? My dogs went crazy. Ruck, ruck!

They went crazy, okay? So what I'm saying is that, and so now, and then I keep Googling, like, what is it? You know what I mean? So I know you're not gonna reveal when it's gonna come out. Because I know it's a lot of work. But it seems like you have a lot of it done.

I mean, I see some of the fighting mechanics and the chocolate stuff, you know what I mean? And the villagers, I think, you have some characters in there, so will it be coming out in the next five years? I hope so. I mean, that's the goal. So will it be coming out in the next five years? I hope so. I mean, that's the goal. I could be dead by now then. I'm 53 years old.

You'll be alive. I know, but. So this is Haunted Chocolatier here. Yeah, and I mean, it seems like it's done. I know, it looks that way. Yeah, yeah, but it's not. That's like the Hollywood magic. You make look like it's done.

Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. And so you're still working on it hard. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And there's a lot that still needs to be done. And you're probably comparing it, the pressure. I can only imagine the pressure that you feel because of the success of stardew Absolutely. Yeah, that's what it is. I think it's got to be better, you know, but even if it's on the same level I think it's gonna be fine. No. Oh, here's another thing about the key push pause for a second for them that

I've never in my doing a disservice but not you ever using the slingshot a disservice by not ever using the slingshot? Nah, I mean, actually like real pros do use the slingshot with explosive ammo, but I don't know if it's fun, that's the thing. So yeah, it's not. I mean, the only time I've ever used it is to get that one walnut by the volcano cavern up above. I had to shoot it down. I have have so many what can I show my farm? Oh, yeah. Can I ask another quick question? Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, may I show you my farm? Of course. Okay. Yeah, so um

Use a Bobby was saying that you made all your own music Are you musician like from your early childhood like do you make me? Yeah. Yeah, that was always my big thing was music Before I even got into programming or making games or anything like that What was it like meeting the harvest moon guy? It was cool. He's Japanese, right? Yeah, what's his name? Yasuhiro Wada Yeah, he's great Is he a fan of yours stardew? Well, he had nice things to say about stardew I don't know if he's like a fan

of me or of Stardew, but he had nice things to say. And he was, I mean, we had very nice things to say about each other. I, of course, like praised him and he was the big shot, you know, I was a nobody. That's how I carried myself with him. Wow. I mean, it's like his game, that's the original. If it wasn't for Harvest Moon, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be sitting here. Let's get honest here for a second. Okay. All right. I don't know this guy about. You know what I mean? Yeah. You love him. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just never played Harvest Moon. Right. So I don't have any frame of reference to it. Okay. I mean, and if you look at Farmer's Moon, I can see similarities. But where does it end? Let me ask you some specific questions about Harvest Moon real quick. Are there a fighting

mechanic in it? No. Fishing mechanics? Yes. There is fishing mechanics. But it's not a bar. It's just like you put the thing in the water and that's it. Oh, right. So there's no game there. And then can you marry in it? Yes.

You can in Harvest Moon. Can you design your own house? Not really. Exactly. And some of the newer ones you design your own house? Not really. Exactly. And some of the newer ones you can, but it's kind of clunky. You know what I love doing? What? You just kick it through movies. I love designing my own house. You know what I've been doing lately? I've been going to the movie theater and playing the game, the crane game, and there's some great movie posters in there. There really is. And there's a lot of good interior design stuff in there as well.

Like the trees. Like the trees. Those are fun. You can put them outside too. Not just inside. Right. Yeah. And I like all the magical wallpaper you have. The beautiful options. It's incredible. Let's go to the game, if I may. And then I'm just going to keep these. Right? And then my controller is where? Sit down. Yeah, just sit down. Can I sit here?

No, sit down, just sit down so you can be on the mic. So you can talk, you can give us a tour. So here we go, here we go. And you can point out if I'm doing anything wrong. Okay, no, this will be very interesting. So this is like your main farm. It's my latest farm, you know what I mean? I have other farms, this is my latest farm.

Have you seen my latest farm? No, not yet. Okay, okay, so here we go. So I go to load, no, yeah, load, and then I'm gonna go to I'm so nervous yeah you are all right so is the is the a lot of money yeah yeah yeah I have a lot of money how much money I have 58 million yeah that's good yeah yes it's very good all right so this is I wait I'm waking up okay wait it just happens to be green rain day yeah it's happening yeah it's green rainy. So what I'm a fairy

Oh my god lady Now what I do in the morning I like to eat crab cakes breakfast And I also look at how many crab cakes I have and look and and look at the star on it Which means they're even more right? What does that mean? They're gold star. Yeah, they're good better. Yeah Right what your piano? Yeah, okay, so They're gold star, yeah. They're even better. Organic, right? Your piano. You even have two infinity blades for some reason. Do you know why?

No. Oh, so that if you go left or right on the... No, no, no, I'll tell you why. So one of them has... One of them is a crusader. And the other one is a... what is that? Bug killer. That's actually really smart. I've never seen anyone do that Because you clip it because I want both of them in the skull caverns, right? Right, right. So yeah, you need both of them I'm sure people have done it, but I've never seen it. I've never thought about doing it myself. Yeah

Yeah, I'm impressed. So then I have oh my god, dude You've done something he's never seen. Dude, I'm about to cry. So alright, so down here I have a little, you know, look at, there's a movie poster up there, right? I have a couple of that in there and then where's my lazy fucking roommate? My lazy roommate, Krobus, is right there. Just staring at a chair. Eric, any thoughts so far on the layout? I know, you know what, I didn't know Eric was Eric was gonna watch this so I should have redesigned it no It's more of a quarters hoarders den. I mean I think it looks pretty good I don't know why you have a six posters of the

That movie in the bottom the silent movie well because of my bet. That's my favorite movie. Okay? Yeah, that's my favorite movie in the game, so you know I mean, and I I think it looks good like that Okay, well you know it kind mean? And I think it looks good like that. Okay. Well, you know, it kind of has like a bachelor pad vibe. Yeah, that's what I was going for, dude, because I killed my kids and they went away. You know what I mean?

And so, all right, so let's go down to outside real quick. So already it's green rain, right? This is my form right here. So in here, what I did in here, if I may, is if you go into here, I have all these cabinets and whatnot, right? So I have my wood here, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I have like certain,

like this is where my bone sections are. Yeah, my bone chest. So I have everything kind of like, this is like fertilizers and whatnot. You know what I mean? So I have it all stored so that I know where to go. You know what I mean? Like some of them are like, I have some fruit here, but I have a lot of fruit. Oh no, I'll show you where I have a lot of fruit. But anyway, so I have that. And then you can come down here and I'm going to show you something here,

if I may. I have all my obelisks here. Obviously, if you're not, if you don't have the golden clock, you're not doing it right. What does that mean for the audience that has never played this game? What does a golden clock represent? Well, first of all, it's $10 million. You get it from the wizard tower. And also what it does is every season, it doesn't leave debris, right, on your, what's going on?

Nothing, just for volume. Yeah, debris. It freezes the debris. Freezes the debris, and also your fences don't deteriorate. Yeah. And I have all four obelisks here. Those warp you to different spots. Different spots, thank you so much.

You know what I mean, you invented it. I have a bunch of dogs, so I have a dog here. And in here what I do, I'm not doing it right now, but I'll show you what I do fuck with. I have a lot of, I only make ancient fruit wine. Of course. Why? Because it's the most valuable.

Most valuable, thank you so much. And then in here, check this out. I just have diamonds, right, diamonds there. Diamonds in five different buildings, okay? So I can make money I'm Asian okay awesome thank you so much other Asian characters in the game no there isn't I think Sebastian's a little Asian but we can get that into that later and then

so in here what do I have in here I forgot so in here oh this is oh that's more um ancient fruit but I do have a dairy kind of a situation here. So I have all my dairy products in here. So that if I want to make mayonnaise and all that stuff. I have so much money I'd stop doing all this. But it's like, and here is where I have my furnace.

So I have all my furnaces here. And I have, right here I have all my elements that I need. I have in here I have, look, I have how many prison sharps do I have, right here I have all my elements that I need. You know what I mean? I have, in here I have, look, I have, how many prison sharps do I have? A lot. A lot. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I do that, you know what I mean?

And then I'll show you some more stuff, if I may. This is very exciting for me. I have my cat, my original cat, his name is, let me cut that out. And here I have, you know I mean what am I growing there? More ancient fruit. Ancient fruit thank you so much for saying so. You know what I mean? And check this out Eric what am I growing all here? All ancient fruit. There's a theme. Right and what I'm getting I'm collecting ancient fruit why to make wine and jam.

Yes. Yeah because I want to make money, and here is where I make my jam Okay Alright, and then since am I boring you no, okay. Okay. So down here. I have this little section down here where I Have all my uh, what that's a wait, those are all statues of endless fortune. Yeah So that's like how many do we got there? We're looking at like 50 million gold worth of stuff right there, those statues. How many hours have you put into this?

I don't know, not much. Not much. Right, so I have $50 million of ancient statues and then down here, obviously. So like your net worth, it says 58 million at the top of your net worth. Where can you go? Right here. What have I made? I've made 181 million dollars. Okay. So then you go in here. Wait, where did my guy go? What the fuck happened? Oh, oh, there's a glitch. No, that wasn't glitch. And then I have my little guys in here. And then I

obviously have, um, you know what I've been doing lately? This is a good, right, I have a lot of rabbits. Why? Why do I do this? I'll tell you why I do this. I have iridium, if you go in here, right, where's my little, where's the, okay, right here. So if you go here, right, so you have, where's my, so these are iridium rabbit's foots. And why do you think I do that, Eric? That's a good question. No one ever does that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why would I do that, Eric? That's a good quiz. There must be someone who likes iridium rabbit's foot, right? No. Yes. The only one that doesn't like it is who? Penny. Penny does not, right?

But everyone, it's one of their most loved. Okay. Right, so if you give them iridium loved gifts for their birthday, it shoots their friendship higher. So you give everyone iridium rabbits food? Exactly. Okay, okay. You know what I mean, if I run out of pink cake,

like I'm like, I don't have any fucking melons or whatever. Well it's like easy, you don't have to think about it, you just give them rabbits food. You don't have to think about it, exactly. Thank you so much for saying so. You know what I mean? And then that, and then I'm gonna just, let's just go to my- So who lives in that, in the trailer?

No one, I don't have anyone to play with, but I just built one anyway, just in case. I'm dreaming, you know what I mean? I feel like you guys should play at least one time. No, no, no, he doesn't play this game. Come on, come on, I'm not gonna play with him. Actually, do you still play it, or you kind of- I do, sometimes.

Yeah, yeah. And then if you go down to, where am I going? Oh, so if I have my, let's see if I'm doing my Island right, okay So I have my little island so I have batteries solar batteries there and obviously I'm making a lot of ancient fruit And since I don't have any I don't have any I don't have to do star to start fruit gems anymore gem fruit Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I have so much money. If you go in here, you know,

may have a little, you know, little area here where I, you know, sometimes I sleep here. Looks nice. It's very nice, thank you so much. And then, do you have any notes for me, my friend? I mean, it's looking great. I think you've maxed it out.

I wouldn't even know what to suggest. You've reached perfection on this farm, I take it? I can go to the summit. What does that mean? The summit? That means you've reached perfection. Then there you go. And there you go, my friend. I think this is what Wizard101 wanted to be, but they didn't. You know what I mean mean was that English? Yeah Okay

This is what a wizard 101 wanted to be what is wizard 101? I don't know. You know what it is Eric No, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're not gonna look it up. What is it a game? What are you high no, No, look it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta check it out. No, we're doing this right now. Can't hose us yet. Yeah, we're gonna do this real quick.

And if I blocked out, I'll tell you this cave, I blocked it out because I don't have no use for the frog anymore. Right. Yeah, yeah. And then, well, hold on, let me go do this real quick. This is the greatest thing again, this return home scepter. But then also, you know what I love about your game as well is this part.

These little tiny little things like the frog statue here. You know what I mean? These little tiny things that you did like getting certain paintings that you can get by fishing out of a certain area of the game. You know what I mean? These magical secret spots. And then I'm gonna ask,

I'm gonna say one last thing for you. I'm gonna show you one last thing here. I'm gonna go, let's go to the, let's go up north real quick, right? And you could either do this obelisk here to go up north. I'm gonna go up north for a second, right? And I'm gonna ask you a question here. We're gonna go here, and this is where Linus lives and also the homeless

kid that lives in... What's his name? Leo. Leo, Leo, yeah. We're gonna go up here for a second, okay? And we're gonna go here. And this is where the summit, so I can prove that I've got trees up there. So that's proven. And then, you're saying that I've done every single thing in the game that you could possibly do. I mean, it's looking like it so far.

Yeah, exactly. So then I'm gonna go up here, right? And so my kids, I got rid of them. Oh. Yeah. So what are these guys? These red things? That's... Yeah, I mean, that's... What are they? That's basically your guilt and shame

Coagulated into a living puppet That's why I don't go up in here because I feel such dread and shame Mm-hmm the intended thing was right, right? And so what you're telling me was right now is is that I should have never gotten rid of my kids Is that the moral of the story? Yeah, yeah, why even have that option well? I mean it's a you have free will you have free choice you can do what you want Yeah, that's why I was saying I would make it so that you could break up Robin and Demetrius and You know it's like you can do whatever you want,

but there's consequences. That's OK. Yeah, I think it makes it interesting. OK, OK, OK. Before we go too far, Eric, can we get your reaction to this farm overall? I mean, it's great. I think it's an impressive farm.

And it seems like Bobby's like 110% of the game, basically. So I don't know what you would even do from here. Just buy more at Stach's Vendless Fortune. I mean yeah, I'm at a point now where it's like, and there's so much to do and to get to my level, let's be honest, it's gonna take a while, right? Yeah, you can imagine. An advanced player.

I'm an advanced player. And you can imagine the hours of sweat and tears. And I have 10 farms like that. OK. That's how obsessed I am. I have 10 farms at that level, right? Designed differently, obviously. Different wives, but at that level.

So I feel like, and that's why I'm. How many hours have you put in altogether? Hundreds of thousands of hours. Hundreds of thousands. I mean, it was a point where it feel like, and that's why. How many hours have you put in altogether? Hundreds of thousands of hours. Hundreds of thousands. I mean, it was a point where it's like, it's all I did was do stand up podcast, if I'm acting, I act, and then it was like, and then even I would choose

start something to Stardew over Vag. You know what I mean? I mean, in fact, that should be a band name, Stardew versus Vag. You know what I mean? I would go, ah, yeah, I'm gonna stay and do Stardew instead of going out with this girl. That's how powerful it was in my life.

But my therapist said that it's unhealthy. Yeah, my therapist said it was unhealthy and she goes, you need help. And I go, what do you mean? She's like, you're using it as a coping mechanism. Right? Because it's so, I'll give you a prime example of what Stardew Valley feels to me to a TV show,

the great British Bake Off. Have you seen that show? I think maybe once. All right. That show gives me the same feeling as I get at Stardew Valley. It's like something I didn't get at home. So at my house, it was violent.

There was a lot of physical abuse. You know what I mean? I was molested. And then a lot of dark things happened growing up. And so when I play Stardew and watch Great British Bake Off, that's what I feel like my home should have felt like. You know what I mean? Where it's like warm and there's trust.

What I also like Stardew is like, you know, Emily's gonna be there. You know what I mean? You know where she's gonna be at. You know that on Friday night, Sam and Sebastian are gonna be playing pool at the bar at Gus's Tavern, right? And so you can rely on these characters that you love, right?

You know that your kids are going to be there and your wife is going to give you a gift. And I also know what I'm going to give her. You know what I mean? And it gives me a sense of... it soothes me. Stability. Yeah. My trauma. It soothes my trauma. And that's why games like this is so fucking important because I think a lot of people... I've talked to a lot of people that play Stardew and it, they use it as a tool as a therapy. It really is a masterful done game. I feel like if you're not playing it and I feel like a lot of people

listening to this are going to play it now. And I think it does more. I mean, I think certain TV shows and movies do more than just added entertainment. I think it's therapeutic almost in a weird way. And I think that that's who, if I ever have a family, that's how I want it to feel like, you know what I mean? Safe. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean the thing is like,

when I made Sardy Valley I wasn't ever thinking I'm making a therapy game. Yeah, I know. I was just making you know, when I made Sardy Valley, I wasn't ever thinking I'm making a therapy game. I was just like, I was just making a game that I thought would be fun. And then it just happened to have this special effect. And a lot of people have said this to me, but I think it's great. I think, yeah, it's like some people,

when I'm on the road, they go, hey dude, you got me sober. Why? Because I mentioned I'm in sober. Like my intended thing wasn't to say, to get people sober, I'm just sharing my experience, strength and hope with people, right? And that people just get sober from it. So it's not an intended thing, but it does help people.

And I think that's what's incredible about your art form, is that it reaches areas of society that I can't even reach. So I think it's a really cool thing that you did, dude. And I think, in terms of video game folklore, you're up there with Bethesda and, you know what I mean? You really are, dude. Like Todd Howard is his name?

Todd Howard. Yeah, from Bethesda. And you're really fucking important, dude. You mean, to the genre. Thank you. I think the thing that I hope my story would inspire people is that you don't have to have connections necessarily. You don't need to be an insider. I didn't know anyone.

I never made a game before. I just made a game that I wanted to make. I wasn't following trends or anything and it came from the heart and it blew up. So it's like I hope that that inspires people to kind of believe that, to dream and to try things and to not feel like I can't do it because I'm not an industry insider.

Right, yes. Because I remember when you were almost done and there were people online, what do you call it when people are online or watching? Like streaming? Not streaming, but I think you were almost done and there were people online, what do you call it when people online are watching? Like streaming? Not streaming, but I think you were like, people knew that the game was coming out, right? You had people online knowing about the game, right?

Yeah, yeah. What do you call that? Like followers? Yeah, like followers and people are like, and supporters are ready. Cause you would throw out like little examples out there or no, is that what happened or no? I had a website with like blog updates.

Blog updates, right? Deadl updates, yeah. And people were excited watching it because it's also very like, the way it's, the format of it is very cute and you know, endearing, service level. But I always say to people, I go, you never live in the results, okay, and you just do.

So I just love doing standup. I didn't know it was gonna take me to LA and all these other things, right? It just happened, but it's like, you gotta walk through the fear of it and commit to it because it's like, you spent four years locked in a fucking bedroom or whatever, an office, and you just did it

because of the love of it, right? And I encourage everyone just to do it because you just don't know, man. You never know. And then when that it hit, you know, that wasn't the intended dream, I don't think, that you were going to be like an industry like, you know what I mean, pioneer. No. Yeah. But see, that's what I say that too, because like, even if you, even if I worked for four years and the game was a flop, I would have learned so much. I would have grown as a person,

and I would have had the dignity of like, I had finished a project. And I feel like that is important too. And that can, you know, if you keep that going, eventually, you know, you're really increasing your chances of something happening. Yeah, yeah. It's better than doing nothing.

Yeah, but have you ever been, have you always been fearless? No, no, not at all. I used to be like a very fearful and anxious person, actually, before Stardew Valley came out. You know what's so funny? Me too. I'm not this guy.

I was so sensitive and weird, and I couldn't look at authority in the eyes. Like if I got pulled over by the cops, I wouldn't look in their eyes, I'd be so scared. You know what I mean? And the confidence that standup has brought me is just night and day. It does, you start believing in yourself.

You go, oh no, I have a reason to be here. Absolutely. I mean, a voice, you know what I mean? I have purpose almost and it encourages you. Yeah. Right, so you're probably, are you still, you're probably 10 times more confident out in the world. Definitely, yeah.

And I mean, I've just done so much since the game came out, like things like this, that it's like, I'm not like nervous about anything anymore. I've done a lot of weird stuff. Hey, why are you pulling that? What is this? This is young Eric when he was in a band. Oh really? It's called 17 when he was in a band. Oh really?

It's called 17 Colorful Feathers. Yeah. Can you people listen to the music? Yeah, yeah, it's on there. Really? Yeah. That's amazing. Do you sing or is this instrumental?

They're singing. It's not good. No, no, no, no. You sing? I, on this I did. Bob was in a band too. I was in a band too. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, we were bad. I was bad. So that's out there. That's an album that you put out? I'm gonna listen to it tonight. That's my playlist. There's actually a game that I made for this album.

That's my first game that I made technically. Really? And how did you learn to program? Was this the first game? Yeah, I've seen that online. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, that's insane. Who's this guy? Some guy playing it? That's a streamer. That's UnsurpassableZ.

He's pretty cool. Wow, wow, wow. Look at that. Amazing. That's amazing. It kind of looks like crap, but see, with this software, you didn't really have to program. You kind of just drag stuff around and road dialogue and all that kind of stuff yeah how did you learn I mean I mean to watch the game you had a pre I mean did you know all the elements or did you have to learn along I learned along the

way like when I first started I didn't know how to do pixel art at all and if you look at the old pixel art looks looks like crap like it. Oh really colors are awful There's all kinds of issues with it But I just like thousands of hours of practice you just learn how to do it you get an intuition for it Wow Did you go to school for it? I went to school for a computer science, so I did they did teach how to like program So I knew how to program We learned that in like maybe the first like quarter or two. The rest of it was all like this kind of theoretical

math stuff which I never use. Wow. During class, I would often just be like on my computer making little games just for fun, which I never released. Yeah. But it was kind of like the practice that led up to being able to make Stardew Valley. Wow. Do you, cause there's a lot of games that led up to being able to make Stardew Valley. Wow. Do you

because there's a lot of games that come up computer game. Yeah. You're being like Stardew Valley version on space or whatever. You know what I mean? Right. Right. And all these things. I mean do you like that? That you because there's so there's a genre of games now I think they're called cozy games. That's what people call it. I never call it.. You don't like that? I never use that term. Comfy or cozy, that's what they say. Yeah, they call it that.

I might say the game has cozy atmosphere to it sometimes, but I just think the whole, like this idea that there's a genre called cozy games and my game is one of those. I mean, it's a label that's been put upon me. I've never used it myself. What would you call your game? I mean, an RPG. That's's been put upon me. I've never used it myself. What would you call your game? I mean an RPG.

That's what it is! That's what I said! That's what I always thought it was! A farming RPG. That's exactly what it is. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a farming RPG with different elements. It's like also a fishing game and some of the... Oh my God, why is... Yeah, I also sometimes say a country life sim, but it's like a farming RPG slash country life simulator. Country life simulator, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Why is some of those fish so hard to catch, man? I mean, it's like, I'll tell you, I mean, when you have a shitty rod, try to fucking catch a sturgeon. Right. You know, right? It's so hard, or like, you know what the worst is? Is it octopus or octopus yeah in the summer in the morning right yeah when you have a shitty bamboo rod forget

about it you're not catching one but you're not catching one answer your question I don't know I I'm like I don't mind if people make you know farming games I think it's fine it's like it's a genre I don't own the genre the only thing that slightly bothers me is people like directly rip off things in Stardew Valley and it kind of bothers me just because Like I would like people to just be themselves and be authentic like don't just copy exactly something in Stardew Valley I know that's why I can't play them. Yeah, I'll play a new game when like, you know, I mean I've you know, cuz you saw how deep I'm in yours, right? So I go let me try something and every like 20 minutes in I'm like, nah, it's like,

it's like Stardew but not as good. You know what I mean? So I can't do it. Like, I've played, I probably downloaded maybe 20 to 30 other cozy, comfy, and I'll play a little bit. None of them stuck at all? None of them. Okay.

They don't have your heart. They don't have your, it's just, they don't have it. I mean, they have parts of it, right, but it's like, I also like a little grinding. Little grinding's fun, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like, yeah, I think people look at Stardew Valley and they think this would be really easy to make a game like this.

Because it looks kind of amateur, right? Well, I would say so. It looks accessible. You're like, I could make that. I think a lot of people think that but I think there is a subtlety to how all the systems work together, which is Difficult to recreate mmm Would you ever create something that's not that?

What do you mean? Not like not a like a Farming RPG or a chocolate is similar. chocolate just similar, you know what I mean? Yeah. Themes of like. I call them town games. Town games, yeah, yeah. Would you play it? I would. Oh yeah, yeah. I think it'd be interesting.

Yeah. But it's also like, it's difficult because the fans have expectations. It's like, if I just made a racing game next, people would be like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should. Yeah.

Arab concern game. But if I was making a racing game, it'd be like a racing life sim. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should. Yeah. Arab concern keep. But if I was making a racing game, it'd be like a racing life sim. Oh, that's right. Yeah, you'd be like- You could design your car. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you could get a girlfriend or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or an awesome race car driver. But that's interesting, these elements of getting a girl and all that, there's a part of it that like, I mean, it's endearing because it's like, there's such a variety of different kinds.

Like Shane's an alcoholic. Right. Right? And there are some parts in it where you think he's gonna die. That one cut scene where he's like passed out by the cliff. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And then you help him and now he's making fucking blue chickens.

Right. Right? And then he's healthy again You know I mean, I mean there's real elements in it. You know I mean they're like oh Shane is he the most fucked up guy I? Probably I would you know a shame at least personally you know somebody that's a shame Yeah Good guy yeah, yes. Yeah. Yeah, does he know that your Shane is based on him. Yeah, you know oh wow is he sober? No, or no, I'm not sure guy. Yeah, he is, yeah. Does he know that Shane is based on him? Yeah, he knows.

Oh wow, is he sober now or no? I'm not sure. Okay. I'm not sure. Yeah, but that's an interesting character, Shane, because he's a little, also when you first meet him, he's a fucking asshole. You know what I mean?

Like, get out of my way or whatever. Okay, so the real life Shane is a lot nicer of a guy. It's like, I cranked it up a bit for the for the game Yeah, yeah, but Yeah, yeah, and Evelyn and George they don't die Well, I mean no, it's a video game. Yeah There's video game logic. Okay, cuz when you play 20 seasons, you're like that's still alive. Yeah alive Yeah, it's good anyway., to speak on the real stuff,

I guess what I like to do is kinda, I'm trying to break through the screen, I wanna reach out and grab you at some point. It's just things that are a little bit shocking, I think, and that's why also people often talk about how, I'm always talking about how characters are sweaty, you notice that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they think I have some weird sweat fascination. Oh, you mean the cut scenes? Yeah, like there's- Like when Hailey falls off the cow. Yeah. You remember that? Oh yeah. And then when she wins, there's sweat there, right?

Right. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's kind of like dirt. Oh, dirt too, yeah, dirt. But there's a lot of times where people are talking about how they're sweaty or whatever. But see, the reason why I do that is because I feel like talking about sweat or smells,

they kind of force you to think outside of the screen a little bit. Oh, interesting. Yeah, envision the actually slickness on the skin, the feeling of it, and the smell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or when Leah, you have to grab that apple from that tree with Leah, right? Yeah.

She helped me with the apple. And then you guys fall over or what happens? I remember. I don't remember. Something like that. Something like that. Yeah. It's so strange.

I got to get a life, I think. No, I think doing this podcast, having you on made me feel like a freak. No, I feel like a freak of nature. I really do. And I'm so sorry about my fandom. No, no, no. Yeah, I'm so, sir, around you, I feel like everyone's like royalty here,

but I don't know what he does, but sir, I'm so sorry about my fandom, you know what I mean? I have a real problem, and I'm a freak of nature, and I gotta figure it out, but I'll tell you this, dude, I'm gonna play the fuck out of Haunted Chocolatier. I will play the hell out of that and I got to figure it out, but I'll tell you this dude I'm gonna play the fuck out of haunted chocolate here. I will play the hell. I hope you like it Do you like skull cavern runs in Strati Valley? Are you crazy? That's all I look all right. You'll like haunted chocolate I mean I go there with red bombs, you know black bombs and little bombs. You know I mean yeah I I you know with the caverns I'll bring

400 red gigantic bombs. Because all you need is solar essence, that other black stuff, and then you need golden ores, and you can make a bunch of big bombs. OK, of course. No? Yeah, no. You remember, you made it. Yeah, you got to have bombs.

Last question. OK. No, I have so many more. One last thing. Yeah, there. What's that? Just ask your question first. OK. OK. Oh, I have so many more. What's that last thing? Yeah there. What's that? I don't know. Just ask your question first. Okay. Oh, you okay. So um, I Oh, yeah. So, um, does luck affect gambling?

Uh, no I knew that I would eat lucky that lucky meal, right and I would have a ring on Actually, I think maybe in 1.6. I did make it affect some things to a very limited degree. I thought it was weird that it didn't. Yeah. I think I might be missing... No, I don't think so. What's the... Not star fruit, but it's the fruit where there's like six of them and you elevate your energy.

The star drops? Star drops, yeah. There's like five or six star drops, right? There's... Four? Six, I think. I think six. I think you get, I think your wife or husband gives you one, right? I think that the, you put the solar essence in the, no I know what, you put a star, a gem fruit in the, that's right, the statue in the hidden forest, right? You You gotta finish the museum. Your museum, and also the queue gives you one

at certain level of the caverns or the last level of the first cavern. Level 100 in the regular mines. That's it, that's it, there's a star, yeah okay, a star drop. Anyway, what are you gonna show me? Oh, I asked Eric about this tour. The Stardew Valley Symphony of Seasons.

What's that all about? Yeah, this is our, so did you go to the first Stardew Valley Symphony of Seasons. What's that? Oh, yeah, this is our so did you go to the first? Stardew Valley concert tour no well I gotta get you I'll give you tickets to this one Do they want to get where is it? What do you do it? It's it'll be in LA. Do you can you? Push pause for a second. I'll probably I can get everyone. Let me let me ask you something. Yeah And I and you could say no, okay, okay okay but I promise I won't harass you I promise you I will never text you can I have your number can I have your number of course this is the one guest I would not I know I don't know really you I'm not good what I already know the game, right?

So maybe a year from now, I'll text them, how's haunted chocolate coming? Yeah, there you go, no. That's all I'll do. On your birthday, I go, what's up? I'll tell you after. Afterwards, yeah, yeah. So you'll text me when LA happens, I will go.

Yeah, there you go. Do you go to every one of them or no? No, but I'll go to LA. Oh yeah, come to LA, please, we'll go together, okay. So here we go. But so anyway, yeah, we had the first concert tour and it was a big success and it was cool So we're doing a bigger and better one here this the first one was the festival of seasons and this one is the symphony of seasons Okay, so which one? Okay. What to give me the tour? When's LA?

You better mark this out. It is two nights two nights September that's my birthday week Two nights. Two nights. September, that's my birthday week. The 17th is my birthday. That's my birthday week on the 13th. Yeah. And then will you go? It's sold out. I still think. No, it's not. It's tickets available. Yeah. OK, good. Also, we can get we can get everyone in. Right. You think so? Please get me in.

Our suit. Do our suit. What happens? You don't have to wear. I'll just wear what I'm wearing. You can if you want. All right. So you are the other dates just for our audio listeners? Yeah, yeah, what else we got? What other dates we have for people? Well, it's a lot of sold out here. Yeah, the tickets are selling fast.

You gotta get on it. Do you get a cut of this? Please tell me you do. Yeah, we get a little bit. Okay, good, good, good. Because you wrote the music. Yeah. Yeah, you're the guy.

Well, it's just that, okay, with these live shows, it's like the margin of profit is like very small You know like okay, because they cause you have to hire the musicians. Oh, that's right. Oh, how big is the symphony? There's like I think Cole do you know off the top of your head? So the first one was 15 and this one is like I think I don't know 40 or something like that I mean, it's mad would you ever imagine this making the game? There's no way you could even imagine that. Auntie Anne said this.

Yeah. Are you bored? Bored? Yeah, yeah. Oh. No, no, what you just did there was so fucking, made me so angry. What?

You put money in your mouth. You're like, when is this over? Yeah, you fuck you, dude. It's a legend, respect him, dude. Don't fucking chew on my fucking show, dude, again. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. What do you have in your mouth? I want some. What is it?

It's beef jerky from Texas. Okay. No, so I never played this game because I have a job, but. Wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop. What the fuck did you just say? Like, I have a job but Stop stop stop What the fuck you just say? I have a job like that. I don't have time to play games, but it looks interesting Can I say something? I know your job. You have the time You're not busy

Okay, I play Halo I'm busy You think you're busier than I am? And I still put hundreds of hours Alright, so fuck you dude You're being disrespectful. Okay. I play Halo, but yeah. Yeah, not the same. I know it's not the same. I need to play some I don't think we want to get flagged but okay. Yeah. Well, can I can you can I have it? Can I suggest something since I'd love for you Bobby to do your best Stardew Valley

Song and maybe have Eric listen that it could potentially get into the next game. No, I can't do it now. Hey, Bobby. I'm trying to wingman you right now. No, no, no. This is your chance. Here's what I'll do. This is your chance.

This is what we will do, okay? I will give him, because I have Garage Band. Okay. Alright? And I have Garage Band music, right? I will send you Garage Band music, right? But you don't have to use it. No, it's, I'll tell you why he won't use it.

And I wouldn't want him to use it. I'll tell you why. It's like him writing me five jokes. I think he can do that. I know he can, but I don't want it because I want it purely my voice. And I think it's even rude that you wouldn't even set this up, okay?

So what I would do, Gilbert, is I'll just give him, what do you think of my new song? Or whatever, right? But that's it dude and don't do this right with right now Okay, I don't want to disrespect you because your music is off the charts dude. Thank you It gives me you know most games I turn the music off dog. Yeah, yeah, I think I turn the music off here I might my game anyway, but um after a while I kind of turned up, but you know because but sometimes I have the you know little radio that they're little jukebox and stuff really good stuff You know, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, so do you play any other games or just starty Valley? Oh, that's a good question. I

Probably put as much hours into Skyrim. Okay. I think I put as much hours into Fallout 3 and New Vegas and also Fallout 4. Red Dead Redemption. Red Dead 2, all the, you know, mean stuff. And then, so when I like a game, I go all the way. But I haven't played a game in a couple of years that's got me hooked at all in any kind of way. You know, it's, I think, sorry, a zympic burp. When you have a zympic, you just burp a lot.

It's fucking weird and you feel nauseous. I'm not gonna vomit, but anyway, I look pretty good though. But anyway, let's move on from that Yeah, you you know you you set a bar dude You fucked it up for people. Eric. What do you play? Yeah, what do you play? Uh, I play all kinds of different things I mean the most recent indie game I played is called a Nubby's number factory. You guys heard about it? I'm gonna write that down. It's I don't know if you'll like it. It's kind of like a Nubbie if you play it. I'm gonna play it Nubbies hold on yeah Nubbies number Factory. That's the last game. I played okay Nubbies number Factory Okay, what else um?

I've been playing like some Warcraft 3 Um I've been playing like some Warcraft 3 Custom maps. Oh wow that's Nubbies. Yeah, that's Nubbies. Uh-huh and what does it do? Well it seems fucking insane. It is It's not cozy at all. I mean what are you what are you doing there? You're just like throwing a ball down and then it hits these numbers and you get points and then you get like upgrades Which give you more points in different ways, But is there skill involved or is it chaos? It's mostly chaos. Okay, okay.

It's kind of like it's almost. Oh my God. It's like you're rolling the dice almost because it's so random where the ball's gonna go. Yeah, yeah. There's like, you have one action you do. You aim the ball. Oh my God.

Yeah, and it's like, there's all these like sounds like. And you're getting numbers. You're like stimming. This feels like my mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah., there's all these like sounds, it's like brrrr, brrrr, brrrr, and you're getting numbers. You're like stimming, you know? This feels like my mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my mind, wow. But I have a weakness for these kind of games.

Why? I don't know, I think it's the same reason why I was able to work on Stardew Valley for 12 hours a day for four years. It's like I have some kind of like, my brain is wired that way, like dopamine-centric, like I can really. That's what I have.

Yeah, yeah. I have that too. Could you, you think you could design like a, what do you call those kind of games like Candy Crush? What do you call those, that style of game? Bubble games? Bubble games? Yeah.

You think you could design one or no? I probably could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would, but I feel like those are like, it's the equivalent of, you know, eating like a bag of Skittles. Whereas with Stardew Valley, I'm trying to make a cozy home-cooked meal that grandma made.

Whereas making one of those Candy Crush games, it's like eating a bag of- But if you made a Stardew Valley Candy Crush game and put it on your mobile devices, you could make probably, I think it could make 20 30 million dollars. I mean it would kill it dude because you have a brand now Yeah, you know not utilizing it to its full. It's you know what but that's what I think of what I love about you right now Yeah, is that you don't charge for your shit, right?

You're really working on hot time like most companies are like this is the date and we're gonna put it out. Like there's an Assassin's Creed every year. Yeah, right and you don't do that. Yeah, most I mean I could milk Stardew Valley so much more than I am but I think it would lose a lot of its soul if I did that. That's right. That's kind of why I'm like averse to making a movie to be honest. There's been a lot of like interest. I've thought about it, too Yeah, what would a star do Valley movie look like don't you think it would cause like it would kind of ruin the characters though Because then they have this set they have a voice and they're doing it's like right now The game is so like it's in your own head. You can kind of interpret it in your own way. It's personal

Well, I mean like the follow-up game. I thought they did a good job TV show the TV show Yeah, right, and I think Todd you're being involved with it helps I mean if you sign a deal where you say I have to have these things like you mean real creative control Right. I mean, I'm not gonna do the store I mean you can get a writer you mean and a director because what you mean, but you can say, you know I mean this doesn't feel authentic and have that kind of thought it'd be a lot of work It would be I lot of work. It would be, I think you would also lean,

I know it would be, but not really. Well, because I'd have to make sure everything is, like, I'm okay with it all. So you read a script, you give it notes, this doesn't feel right, you know what I mean? Sam wouldn't say this, right? And then, you know, they'll rewrite it, bring it back. So that process would be, but then it's like,

in casting you could be in the room. How fun would that be? Scarlett Johansson walking in. You know what I mean? And playing, you know what I mean? Leah or whatever, you know what I mean? I think the characters like Sam, you know what I mean? Sebastian, they have to all be the same kind of age.

And I think that their ages are like, what, early 20s? Or mid 20s, you think? Something like that. Yeah, mid 20s 20s and then who would you want to audition for if you had I couldn't be in the movie there's no one in there Oh Krobus you know what I could be Krobus in the outfit dude dude can I be or can I be the gnome I could put you know I mean I think you'd have to be something I have to be something either Krobus as be something. Either Krobus or... Bobby Lee as Krobus, dude.

Dude, please. I'll wear outfit. You wouldn't even see me. I just want to be in the suit and say things. I'll come up with a... You could be Linus maybe. No, Linus? Is this a live action or it's an animated?

Oh, you're thinking live action or anime? No, I'm asking. I'm saying it's live action. Live action, okay. I think it's live action. I think I should be Krobus. Then you could be Krobus, but if it was like an animation and it was just a voice,

I feel like maybe I'm thinking you could be Linus. Maybe. Wow. Maybe I could do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so, all right, so, okay, this is gonna be, I know we've been a little long here, but I wanna do Dreamcast.

Like let's go through some of the characters and who would be the Dreamcast. This would be fun, dude, all right? So let's go to, all right, so, we have to know a lot of mid-20 actors and stuff though, right? Yeah, I don't know anything. Yeah, me either, so I mean,

I can already throw people in the thing. Who's the girl that played Furiosa? Oh in the new one and a Taylor joy and a Taylor joy has to be in it, and I think she should play Penny Penny. No yeah What do you mean? No, you're not casting it you fuck I'll give you you also don't what so be Leah maybe maybe Leah. Yeah, yeah, Alex can be a Timothy oh Yeah, so where Alex can be Timothy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so Alex could be Timothy, right? Um Dude, I I just worked in a movie called New Year's Rev with this kid named Mason

He's in the he's in the live-action version of how to train your dragon. He's the star. Oh, look him up And this kid is so talented and so handsome live-action version of the How You Train Your Dragon. Yep, and then I wanna show what Mason looks like. And Mason can either play Sam, I think he can play Sam. So I think for Demetrius, you know what I mean? Okay. Michael B. Jordan.

Okay. Wow, why, yeah. Why not? Yeah, why not? Yeah. Michael B. Jordan. Okay. Wow, why again? Why not? Yeah, why not? Yeah, Michael B. Jordan, okay? And then for, I think Jodie could be Scarlett Johansson. I think she's the right age for Scarlett Johansson. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. We're gonna cast that one. It looks like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then what's your dream for Clint? Clint? Yeah, yeah. That's a hard one.

What do you think? Paul Giamatti? Is he too old? Paul Giamatti's too old. Yeah, he looked okay, he's got the right look. Yeah, yeah, I nailed the look. Yeah. All right, go back real quick. Let's do a couple more. I know Pam. Not Pam, but no, who's um? What about Mr. Key? Oh dude, we can get Daniel Day-Lewis for sure. We gotta get Daniel in there, right? Yeah, he'll do it. He'll do it. Yeah, yeah, and then um. Or William DeFoe? William DeFoe could maybe be um. Johnny Depp. Could maybe be Johnny Johnny Depp Johnny

Yo Fuck all right, so and then um I think Tom Lee Jones as George Okay, yeah, you're right good. Well. I don't you think Tommy Lee Jones as George and Evelyn his wife could be um I Would say clay Kate Blanchett We just make her put a wig on her his wife could be, I would say, Kate Blanchett. We just make her put a wig on her. Let's go high. Helen Mirren? Oh, Helen Mirren.

Helen Mirren. It's gonna be an expensive cast. No, we gotta go high though. Yeah. You know what I mean? And they're all gonna say no. Right. And then we go down from there.

And then Bobby's Crobus. Yeah, yeah, no. Then I'm fucking George. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so any other any other questions for um Eric or no No, this is amazing. How do you feel? Hey, how do you think first podcast I think it went well, what do you think the time flew by that's how I know Bye so fast. Yeah, I feel like we get a kept talk. We could keep talking for two more hours

I think we can and I honestly dude And I was like uh I'll just tell you how it feels for me having you here without getting emotional. One time I was doing a movie called The Dictator. Sasha Baron Cohen movie. I played the Chinese guy in it and I was staying in a hotel and I got in the elevator, and Thierry Henry, I don't know, you don't know him, but he, one of my favorite soccer sports teams is Arsenal, Arsenal FC, and their biggest star legend is Thierry Henry.

He's a French football player, soccer player. He walked in the elevator, because at the time he was playing for the New York Red Bulls, and I could not talk. You know what I mean? I could be, you know, I just did a movie a couple years ago with Cate Blanchett and Jamie Lee Curz.

I was around all those guys. Not really that intimidated by them, you know what I mean? But there's certain people that just, that's stuck in my psyche, you know what I mean? And he, Terry is one of them. And you're one of them. I felt the same, you know? And I don't wanna make me feel weird because as our relationship grows,

I'll feel more comfortable, you know what I mean? And then we'll just make fun of each other, make fun of your face and whatever. And I'm not there with you yet, you know what I mean? But anyway, it was one of those kind of encounters, so I just really appreciate you with the gifts and you finding time to do it because I've been wanting you for years.

And I'm so glad that we finally made it happen. And thank you so much to do it because I've been wanting you for years. And I'm so glad that we finally made it happen. And thank you so much for doing it. You were great. And how about a round of applause for Eric Barone. Give him a round of applause. Thank you.