TigerBelly - Daniel Dae Kim Confronts Bobby's Lie

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Actor Daniel Dae Kim returns to TigerBelly, and Bobby gets confronted. We chat Butterfly Effect, Lost, pretty privilege, EP speeches, crying fans, Korean Elvis claims, Disneyland, Dallas Korean food, AI in the business, and Chief of War. Nothing makes you more of a legend than a little Bluechew. Discover your options at www.bluechew.com  Download the DraftKings Casino app, sign up with code TIGERBELLY, and spin your favorite slots! The Crown is Yours.Only sold online at www.zippixtoothpicks.com. Get 10% off your first order by using the code (BELLY) at checkout. MUST be 21 or older to order.

Hi, Daniel, how do you know, how are you? Are you still in Hawaii? We were just talking about that. Yeah, I still live there, but I haven't been there since March, but I'm heading home tomorrow. Tomorrow? The day after tomorrow? Something like that. That would be nice.

That was where we saw each other last. Yeah. You know, by the way. I love your home. Oh, thank you. I've been there. I've been to his home. You know, do you know that last time you were there, we were supposed to have dinner?

I got you guys reservations at Maze, Bar Maze, because you asked me about it. With Chef Kee. Yeah. Yeah, with Chef Key. I flaked, I flaked. And you totally flaked. Oh, my God. Oh, my, this doesn't sound like me.

Wait, I'm going to call about. Can I tell you the truth? Yeah. Can I tell him the truth? This podcast is all about the truth. Are we rolling? Yeah, we're rolling. Yeah, we're rolling.

Oh, my God, I feel really bad. Okay, so Bobby, you had reservations for Thursday. Bobby called me on a Monday, and he's like, I can't wait. Can you reach out to Chef Key? And so I did And we ended up eating Oh Yeah

Of course So you went there the night before I ended up not going But he went there alone I never went I never went there Yeah yeah I have no one

Is that what happened? That's what happened You were like You have to get me there Yeah and so I reached out to him And he was like yeah sure I was like Bobby's really hungry Can he come in

And so he went like on a Monday You never Oh I'm so sorry Wait, wait, wait, why does that burn you? Why does that burn him? He's wise. Why are you mad about that? Here's why.

Oh, here's why. Oh, you went? No, I didn't go. Okay. But that place, in order to secure the reservation, you had to put down a credit card and a non-refundable deposit. You owe D.D.D.D.K. Oh, I'm sorry, TV star. D.D.K. Money.

TV star, Daniel, Dick, Dick, so I had the call key, and I was like, it was for Bobby Lee. He was supposed to come. He didn't go. I'm surprised Chef Kee didn't out you. Yeah, he didn't. He never said that. Did you put it, put the deposit down? Yeah, I think I put my credit card down.

Oh, my God. But you went alone. He's one of those guys. I went alone. That sounds like you. I get that. Okay, good. All right, well, then, you know, I am sorry.

I am sorry to you. D.D.K. That's really good, man. What do you mean? Apology accepted. Yeah, thank you so much. Through song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

D.D.K. From Lost and Butterfly. Thank you for coming. Daniel Day came a round of applause. Thank you. I really apologize for that. Have you met Andrea Jin before? I'm a fan.

Really? We met after a show. Yeah. What show? Ronnie. I opened for Ron. And Hawaii. Why is that funny?

Well, because she's a survivor. Uh-huh. Of what? Here, Daniel, she's one of those that, like, hops camp. No. She's a hop camp. You know what I mean? I see where you're going.

She's a climber. Camp hopper. For what? But the camps go high. For opening? She goes, boop, boop, up. Ronnie Cheng, and then she comes down to me. No.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is she's supposed to do? Aren't you supposed to do that here? Exactly. Here, where? I mean, like, I just don't understand. Like, isn't that how everyone's supposed to operate? Thank you, C.

It reminds me of me. I didn't say that in a negative way. No, but Bobby, you're like a Padawan. No, but yes, thank you. I appreciate that. But also, I'm just doing, I'm just opening for people normally. You're not. Can I just say, I'm sorry, DTK.

Absolutely not, all right? I don't know anyone at your level that does Bill Burr, Ronnie Chang, now John Malaney. Oh, right? Bobby Lee. Me? Bobby Lee. Right?

So, I mean, that's a lot. You're killing it. Killing it. Thank you. Killing it. But what am I supposed to do? Like, turn it down? No.

I'm not saying it in a bad way. Hopping's good. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know why I'm the bottom hop. Oh, that's what it is. Can I be the top hop? Why do you consider yourself the bottom hop?

She never said that about it. I know. I have a theory. This is so good. I'm so glad you're here. All right. I have a theory. she flaked on a gig with me

last second yeah you did? That's a fact I'm sorry Did you have to put down a deposit If you're gonna bring that back up Let's get that out Let's work that through

I thought you I need more singing All right so DTK DTK I'm sorry All right so So she flake

And my theory is that you Open for one of those other guys No, I didn't. Instead of me. I didn't. I swear to God. You could check. I didn't.

Yeah, I don't check, so I just have theories. So she's loyal in her flaker. She's good to you, Bobby. Yeah, if I flake, I'm staying at home. Okay, good. Another thing that you did today that I find interesting, and I... I didn't. Did you...

I didn't pump up my press. That's what Bobby's ass. I didn't sing. What are you saying? I didn't sing. Guys know each other better than I... What I'm just saying is that I've never seen you elevate your chest

Okay, I wore a bra that's kind of like pump up But then I didn't like do it intentionally I just wore a bra Girls have different kinds of bras for different feelings and emotions Can I just say something and I agree Today is a push up day You can pump, push you know what I mean Expose do whatever you need

That's your choice okay And I only lock eyes Okay what I'm saying though It was so jarring because I hang out with her all the time. Do I, how many times do we have dinner? You just made DDK take a water break. We're going to go back to D. Sorry, sorry, you're right.

Anyway, yeah, yeah, so anyway, and then you expose the, you know what I mean? The tip regions. Two to three times a week, I would say. Yeah, that we eat and hang out, yeah. And I've never seen it, so that's all. Let's move on. We are on camera. Okay.

Oh, that's what I'm, okay, we're on camera. Can a girl lift her tits on camera? Yeah, yeah, you're right. Anyway, Didi, do people call you Didi or no? Only you. Really? Can I call it or no? You can.

Yeah, yeah. That can be just for once. Okay. So, Daniel, congratulations on Butterfly. Now, I know it's a great show. How do you know? Because my best friend writes on it. Who?

Gene. Jean. Oh, yeah. Jean Hahn. Is he low on the totem pole? No, he's high at Tottenham. But he's here, he's a recent addition. Yeah, he always says, yeah, I think it's really good.

It's really good. He never says that about it. Anything. Is that true? Yeah, he said it out loud. Yeah. Yeah, many times. Well, that's high praise.

Yeah. I love the jeans on the show. Like, you know, it's really cool to have so many Asian American writers on the show. Is it all? Almost all. But it's, yeah. It's a good thing that when you're in a decision-making position, you can kind of have a say in those.

kinds of things. And, you know, we've been asking for that for a long time, but now we get to have it. Wow. And it just, he's a really good writer. Forget the whole, like, you know, what race people are. He's really talented. All of our writers are just really good. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's the best. And also, you know, when I did reservation, dog, it was mostly native, you know, I mean, writers. And I think I love, because it's a point of view, too. That's what I loved about res dogs, actually, from, like, top to bottom. They really stayed, like, true to, um, everyone being like native. Sterlingwood hired cousins, an uncle, like people from the res. It was amazing. Yeah, you know, you have lived experiences that all the writers have

that, you know, when they're talking about story ideas, they can draw from their own past, and that's really important. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I show that I've been really impressed with it, I just started watching. It was Chief of War. Very similar. That mission was very similar. And, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is it? Chief of War is basically, go ahead. Chief of War Obviously there's a war We're doing great So chief, right

So it's like, you know It's a tribe There's a tribe Yes Every tribe has a chief Right That's obviously a war going on I mean or some sort of conflict

Right But now we're going to see What it is Like what is it Natives against Mormons or something It's always natives against one one white guy. Like the last samurai, like Tom Cruise.

Pale skins. Pale skins. Yeah. Oh, so that's what the thing is. And where is it? Where is it? Hawaii. I knew what it was.

Yeah, yeah. Is it good? I like it a lot. I think what's really, you don't really hear Hawaiian language spoken in that length. Like everyone speaks Hawaiian and everything is subtitled.

And I think that's incredible. It's the first time it's ever been done. Wow. Yeah. Have you seen it? I've seen parts of it. I'm still getting my way through it, and I'm really enjoying it.

Like, you know, that mission to kind of bring that kind of story told in that way with real authenticity, it's great. It's what needs to be done, and, you know, it's fantastic for Hawaii, it's fantastic for Jason, it's fantastic for everyone involved. And to have it in Oella Hawaiian is amazing.

Wouldn't there like wars between islands first before the whites came? That's the thing. It's not that simple. It's really just, Each island had its own kind of chief. Chief, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of war.

Which island would you want to be chief? Probably me, Oahu. I could go to picking the lady. That's true. I can get good ice balls. You'd want to be a modern day chief. Oh, they didn't have that back then? No, I don't think picking the lady is there.

I'll have to check. But it's a, is Oahu, because you go to Oahu, It's Honolulu, big cities, this and that. Was that the premier island back then, or I don't know? It doesn't look like. It doesn't seem like it. Everyone had their own district. Everyone had their own chief.

But the story that's interesting is you see the beginning of Kameha, Meha, who is, yeah, King Kamehameh. Oh, wow. And what island was he at? Hawaii. He was in Big Island, Hawaii Island. Yeah, that one. What's it called? It's Hawaii Island, but they call it Big Island.

A big island, yeah, yeah. And not a lot of people on the Big Island, right? I've never been to the Big Island. Not now. I mean, the overwhelming majority of people are on Oahu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you had children. You're acting some of them, right?

No, not really. I saw you on set with one of them, maybe a couple years ago or whatever. Was that in my mind? One of them did a commercial. Oh, I think that's what I was. Or I should say, I did a commercial with him. He was the lead of the commercial. Wow.

Was he nervous? Yeah, he was. He had, like, the makeup team had to come in every once in a while and bead the sweat off of his forehead. And it was in Hawaii? L.A. Oh, wow. Shooting Hawaii is sweaty.

It can't be, and you know. I know. It's so sweaty. Yeah. Did you shoot in the summer? Summer, right, and winter. Yeah? Yeah, both times, yeah.

It's tough outside. Especially when you don't know your lines. Yeah, that's additional sweat. Sweat plus sweat. Again, right? And it's just split and just in your face. Did you not know your lines? You're a pro.

I know you knew your line. You ever work with me? Only this way. It's a nightmare. Really? Yeah, yeah. Here's what I do. What?

Because I just did a movie. I show up, I've never read it. You did Happy Gilmore. Yeah, but there's no lines there. But I was so happy to see you in it. Yeah, that was cool. This is me in Happy Gilmore. Oh, come on.

And you had a little something at the end, the entire. I go, yay! Yeah. Come on now, that's something. Yeah, man. It can always be. It's no fun. It could always be more, Bobby.

We know. We know. But, yeah, I did. But this is what I do. I show up. I don't know. I never read it. Admit, I don't read it.

I think you try. I try, but I don't understand. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You try to read it, but you don't understand the script. I think his mistake, Daniel, is that he doesn't know, like, he doesn't read the whole script or he doesn't know what's going on. He only focused on his lines.

I don't know what my character is going or where he's coming from. He doesn't know what his character is about. And yet you're unhappy. You're not getting the bigger jobs. this is a shot here's let's just let me I won't interrupt let's finish go go go go you bastard okay you bastard okay D-D anyway I show up and I go I go can I get sides and they go okay they frantically and that in during makeup it's this right

right you don't look at your lines before you get into the makeup trailer Now, if I, no, here's what I do, and this is the honest truth. If I know I have chunks, then I do. Like if it's like a monologue-y kind of chunk and what you have to say eight things in one chunk? What do you call that, a paragraph? A paragraph. If I'm a paragraph, I look at it night before.

Well, you know what you're saying? You're saying you're really smart. You're saying that you can look at something 30 minutes before you have to have it in your head and then you have it. That's a luxury. I don't know if I have it even. Because we're on set, it's a thing

I can't get away with that I'm learning my lines like days before Yeah, because I've never been number one on the call sheet So number one in the call sheet One time I did a Magnum PI Where I was the main storyline That not, that week I had the week before I memorized all of it

Got it, all right, so you'll increase your effort My effort, yes, exactly Based on... Equal to the workload Or so basically what the level of project Got it. Like just did a movie called Karatega You think I'm memorizing my lines?

I'm not memorizing my lines, you know what I mean? I show up on set and I go, all right, and I just say whatever I want. My point is that. But you know, like, scenes where it's like conversationally, that's easier to memorize for me. Yeah, for sure. So if you were not sitting at a table

and you'd probably be the detective and I'm some guy that you, you know, Brian, hey man, man, I wasn't damn, man. You know, and then you say, what would you say? I just love the choice that you're making with people's kind of effeminate cheapish Yeah, I'm not on drugs, man, I wasn't there, man

You know what I mean? And you would say Those kind of scenes I can memorize quickly It's when I have to pop in Like in a procedural show And say some sort of scientific line Well, the malfeasance of each algorithm is created by technology Beyond our synthetic reads

I've been there and every line is like that you're fucked no I've been there how do you memorize those it's really hard because I remember the very first time I was on a set

it was law and order and I was the medical examiner I had to talk about like embolisms in the bloodstream and I was so nervous and I was thinking about just being there in the first place what the

oh my god holy moly What? Jason Cheney. Look at the hair, by the. Wow. How old are you there? 22.

Wow. Wow. You're there nervous. I'm so nervous. And I'm looking at Chris Noth and he's in the scene and he's doing what you do. He's looking at the sides of memorizing his line because I'm like the 10th scene of his day. And so he's just learning it. But I'm like just sweating.

I'm sweating. that I have these lines to deliver and the sweat was so bad and I was so nervous that the director had to come over to me she put her hand on my shoulder and was like, it's going to be okay it's going to be all right, just breathe, you're going to be fine.

And I thought I was hiding it, but clearly I wasn't. And so I know exactly what you're talking about. That kind of jargon. I don't say it's nice like that. What? Why do directors, like, you know how it's going to be okay? I don't get that.

He doesn't get that. This is what I get from Derek. what do you do it? What are you doing? I get screamer. Wait, do you think it's pretty privileged? What? I think it's...

Yeah, dude. I look like a troll. That's what it is. Like, imagine, like, screaming at that face. You can't do it. You can't scream at that face. My face, you can. No, I just feel like she felt sorry for me.

It was pity. But, you know... You've never had a screamer. Oh, I have. Oh. Many, many times. So, you know, I reject the premise. theory for yeah yeah yeah no i've been yelled at many many times

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I have. Many, many times. So, you know, I reject the premise. Theory for. Yeah, yeah. No, I've been yelled at many, many times. Peter Weller, yell at it. Peter, he yelled at you, what do you say to you? He goes, um, why will you memorize your lines, kids? What's up, son? That kind of thing, and he goes, back in my day, I would have known it.

I've never even seen a side. Like the sides are what you memorize? Well, Peter Weller's like, he's close to a genius. He's like a doctor and Renaissance PhD, you know. But you know what he did too? I went out and had a cigarette after he yelled at me. He sat next to me, he goes, son, what kind of Asian are you? And I go, I'm Korean.

That's this photo. Look. See what my body is doing? I don't want to talk. I'm trying to get away, right? It's like you're about to fart on it. Right. And he's just like, son, back of my day, Vietnam was a terrible war.

Like, he's one of those guys. Yeah, yeah. Where they don't know what to say, so they bring back some sort of historical thing that I have no privy to. To connect. To connect. Vietnam was a terrible war. We should never been in it. And you're going, yeah, dude, I get, yeah, I see.

Platoon? Full Metal Jagger, crazy. He's like one of those, but I told Gene, I go, because Gene was the producer of Matt, I mean, I back then, and I go, I don't think I can work with people like that. I'm done with screamers.

Yeah. How do you deal with screamers? I try not to match their energy. You know, like it's, that's a no-win situation when two people start screaming at each other. But I tend to get calm when people get really hyped up like that.

But now you would say something. Oh, I always say what I think. I just make sure I don't match their energy. Okay, let's say you're acting. I'm the director. I go, DDK, what are you fucking doing? They wouldn't even call me DDK. You're like, Bobby, is that you?

All right. Kim! Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Kim, what are you doing? What do you would say? And that's what I would do. I would pause. I would not match the energy.

That's the right thing You know That's just from experience I don't want to get into a screaming match Especially because you know that the crew's all around And you don't want to set a bad example for the crew So You pull them aside?

Yeah And what would you say? I would just say Let me do my Let me get through this take And let's have a chat about this It's so simple It's so simple

Not me, I go inside and there's a war To the chief of war going inside my heart Well it doesn't matter that that's not happening inside, you know. It doesn't mean that it's not happening inside. It is. Rage as that. Because you're Korean. There's right. I mean, it's not that I'm not angry. I just choose not to show it, you know? Oh, I show fear. That's not good either, probably. No, that's probably not good because that can be encouraging to a person who screams. I was, sorry. That's probably not good. My first monologue at Mad TV, back then,

we do live tapings from a live studio audience, and there's no teleprompter. Right? So, So it's my first one I played Connie Chung. I remember those days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had a full-on monologue in front of a lot. I just, I had never been in front of, like, an audience like that before. Did you know your lines? Yeah, I did because it's like they're like, you, they reiterate it.

Like there's no teleprompter. You have to know this inside and out. And after like the second take, Lauren Dombrovsky, one of the producers, walked up to me. And she got on her knee. She held my hand. She goes, you got to learn to breathe. Right? Because it's, you're so nervous.

That's what happens when you're nervous. You can't take a breath. Yeah, yeah. There's so much attention. There you are. Look at that. Oh, so pretty. Wow.

Yeah, and so you're... So pretty. And it's like coming from... I didn't come from an acting background, so it's like I'm literally like faking it. Wow. Yeah. I mean, you come from an acting...

But you've done theater plays, right? Mm-hmm. Before, like, Hollywood. Yeah, so you know how to do it. So you were learning on the fly. You were learning on the job. I didn't know anything. That's amazing.

Yeah, I don't know. No, it's not. It's, I think the worst way, what's this? His first movie. My Serious Theater debut right here. What was that? This was a movie called American Shaolin, King of the Kickboxers. Yes.

Wow. This looks cool. Did you shave your head? Yeah, I did. Whoa. Actually, it felt really good to have a shaved head. I'm thinking about doing it again. You should, dude.

Yeah. You have a nice head, too. Oh, thank you. All right. So it's, but yeah, that was my very first movie. You just showed my very first TV show And this is my very first movie Wow

And now are you I don't, are you nervous here? No This movie Was a very low budget movie It was You know, you talk about jobs you do To try and get ahead

Like I took this job Because this was the only opportunity I had I got to play this guy who fought And what is that That's me His first job My first job Wow

See? See? Who's hotter? Let's take it right now But we're like experiential brothers Everybody, look at us Yeah, yeah. Right?

I came out wrong. I came out the other way. Feet first, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I, you know, you take the jobs that you can get and hope that people will see your work and it'll lead to better jobs.

You know, that's the idea. I'm sure that's the idea for you, Andrew. Yeah, I try. Well, now you're not trying, you're doing. Thank you. That's so nice. Yeah. Are you auditioning a lot?

Not a ton. but here and there. Do you still have to read, Daniel? Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of people who don't know who I am. Just ask Jackie. Just ask my agent over there. There are a lot of people, like, especially in film,

they're like, isn't you a TV guy? That's crazy. Yeah, my agent's like, maybe it's time to do another reel. And I go, what? Have you updated your head shots recently? No, they don't make you do that. I would not do that. But yeah, it's, they don't know.

You know, it's so funny. Jack, you probably know this. There is a disconnection, I think, between the people above and what's really kind of going on. Do you think that or no? Yeah, I do, for sure. Yeah.

Hollywood has pockets. Like, you can be known in certain pockets and completely unknown in other pocket. But it's not that way. Everyone's watching everything different at different times. And there's so many things to watch now. It's too much. Yeah, it's a lot.

It's a lot. Do you feel blessed? Because I feel like Lost is one of those shows that's, there'll never be another show like it. The kind of numbers it got, right? Like, I don't know what that feels like, really. Because, you know, I mean, I've been on series regulars, but they weren't hits, you know what I mean?

Loss was a cultural phenomenon, right? Do you feel blessed when you look back? 100%. I wouldn't be here talking to you if it wasn't for lost. It's true. Yeah. It's true. That was the job that really put me on a different,

playing field and that's when people first noticed me and really thought oh this guy you know maybe we can put him in something yeah yeah and it helped my career so much in tv you know and so i'm always grateful and you know if i i feel blessed uh that i was lucky enough to get that job yeah it was also a really the first time i saw authentic i don't know if we talked about this last but really authentic Koreans on network television where I could look at and go that feels right

that feels real it's not some like you know what I mean half Japanese dude that's really super handsome that doesn't know the language you know what I mean that well it didn't feel like that it felt like oh no this because I didn't I'm sorry to say I didn't really know you before that

you were almost like who is this guy yeah and then I thought you were a Korean dude from Korea Oh, interesting. Most Koreans would never say that, but... I don't know anything. I don't know what the language. I don't know any. I don't know any.

I'm a little. Oh, there you go. Yeah. He says, where's the bath? What? Dong, Mario, at the pool? I know Dong. That's a guy.

I imagine that. That's another thing I know. But, look at me. Where's the school? Where's the school? Look at this, Bobby. You're practicing. You're practically amazed.

So Korean. I'm so Korean. Cheap of war. Yeah, yeah. No, but, you know, there wouldn't be a butterfly without Lost. Yeah. You know, and I'm not just talking about me. I'm talking about the way we kind of talk about the Korean culture and butterfly,

you know, needed the foundation of a show like Lost to kind of introduce audiences around the world to Korean culture and the idea of Korea. Now we have K-pop and K-Beaut and K-Drama, put a K-in front of anything, you know. and K-food, you know, and so it feels like it was steps in a process. Lost was a big, one of the big first steps. What do you do with your face? It's, let me just stop. You don't age. You're doing something, dude.

What's going on here? Yeah, yeah, I'm a vampire. No, no, but do you put Korean ointments? Tell me what the secret. I will tell you, like, my wife, like, goes to Korea a lot, and she'll be like, try this lotion. Try this sunscreen. And so, like, I have, like, a drawer full of Korean products, thanks to my wife.

That's what you're missing in your nighttime routine. Yeah, I need to... You have nothing to eat. Very clean east would want to wake up when I wake up. Leathery. You know what I mean? And it's just doing this, right? And I look in the mirror now, I'm like, oh, I see my age. But you have good potential. I think you just have zero upkeep.

I'm going to get jaw filling. Do lotion. No, do lotion. Well, yeah. Malini. I thought Malaney got it done. I'm going to do jaw feeling. He did? I love he calls it filling You're not a turkey What is that?

I think that you should be careful Because I think that fillers can migrate So if you don't get like a really good injector Your jaw could become like It could like move over here and it can go to your spine even Fillers and they say like oh it's gonna dissolve in You know three four months it never dissolve It's like 15 years later it's still there

Yeah you're talking And you're gonna look like puffy face Yeah but I just feel like you shouldn't jump straight to filler just do lotion first and maybe some like lasers yeah laser first yeah there's so many things you can do

before going to filler do you think I need stuff done be honest as a friend I don't know what you they're looking for no but what do I look like shit you don't look like shit wait why don't you get what all the

Korean girls get like Sangapur or whatever no I'm not gonna make my don't do that I'm not doing that I'm not getting my eyes wider don't do the eyes The double eyelid. But that would be funny, though. I had a friend who...

Wouldn't that be funny? Yeah, it would be funny for one gag, but I don't know. I'm not going to do it for like life. If I just showed up, what's up? Nothing's wrong here. I had a friend who got it done recently and it made her look more cross-eyed and I fear that for you. So don't think... But that would be kind of funny.

From one cross-side person to another, don't do it. Yeah. Well, like, imagine you had like big double eyelids and like, like, K-pop eyes. That'd be cool. That'd be really fun. I will say this, you know, older Koreans are, you know, older Asian people are getting eyelid lifts because as they get, my grandpa got it. Yeah, as they get older, their eyelids actually kind of drooped down and it affects their vision. Is it like the upper blest?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because my grandpa's eyelashes started to poke his eyeballs. So he had to get. Mine do that. Okay, you needed that. So that would be something.

Literally mine does that. I spent hours trying to like, I'll do this. Yeah. So when he, wait. No, I'm not done with the routine. And then I'll lift it, and I'll try to, you know what I mean? Pluck it out? Not plug it up, but try to like even everything out, right?

And still it's there. Oh my God, I think it just fucked it up. Oh, my God. Yeah, my point is, is I need it done. That actually is medical. You do need some of the surgery. That can be covered by insurance, literally. Yeah.

Yeah? Although that's pretty sexy when you do that. So, you know, I don't want to lose that. Yeah. You think I should get done? You need it. Yeah, because when you wake up in the morning it takes you like 10 minutes to open that eye.

It does, yeah, yeah, yeah. It takes me 10 minutes to open an eye. It shouldn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, do you get sleep or no? No, not sleep, but like gongk. Everyone does. Okay, good.

I thought it was an... But the eyelash thing, it shouldn't happen. You should... Yeah, even dogs get that surgery because they have like inverted lashes. Yeah. I feel like you guys are going to make me get the... So, left, right side is a chat,

GPT, generated with the... double eyelid. That's not bad. That's not bad. Who is that, though? That's what the A Filipino man. That's you as a Filipino. You as a Filipino. This is what Chad thinks you look like. Yeah. Wow.

It's a little like Don Lee. You know that Korean acting star? Yeah. Or it looks like Gene. Let's say, yeah, be a Gene. Yeah, kind of look like Gene. Yeah. Anyway, so I'm maybe look into that. Yeah, let's go to Korea and we can get

Sangapur. Yeah. If you were were going to go, get your facial stuff done. What country would you go to Korea? 100%. They're the best. Yeah. Yeah. Why go anywhere else? Yeah.

When you were shooting in Korea, butterfly, what's it on? Amazon? Amazon Prime. Yeah. Watch it right now. You guys, butterflies out already, and I've seen it. It's incredible. Because it's already, you know, they don't know.

This is the trailer? Yeah. Yay. The production value is top-notch. Movie. Movie quality. Thanks. you know, the crews in Korea were amazing

and what they were able to do on, you know, our budget was exceptional. I was so lucky. As an executive producer, did you do a speech? I did many speeches. You did? Yeah. Wow. And what kind of, like, do you write them?

No, I don't write them. You improvise them. I just say what I'm feeling in that moment. Like, you just, let me, because I want to give a speech one day on a, I don't know if I had an opportunity. I know why he's asking this. He might be an EP and something,

so now he's like, give a speech. Yeah, I might be an EP answer. You're going to be a tone setter. Yeah, so I'm going to, I'm going to see if I can do a speech here. Do it? Let's hear. Now, do you what you go? I need tips first. Okay. Do you get somebody to gather them or do them? All right, so everybody, can we gather around, can we gather around the crew? Can we get the crew? Yeah, all right. Bobby would like to say a few words. Oh, so you do it. No, no. I'm your I know. I know. I know. I know. So somebody else does it. Yeah. Thank you, Ricardo. Ricardo was Latino?

Thank you, Ricardo. Y'all. Fuck, I already fucked up. Y'all doing good job. You know what? I couldn't have asked for a better crew. Dimitri, man, you're quick with the props. You mean?

And Rocco, your boom work is next level. And every movie I do, you're my boom guy. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Rocco, you know what I mean? And also, I want to say this is a dream project for me. And I, you know, I've been writing this and, you know, and dreaming about this for 20 years, you know what I mean? To do a movie about, you know what I mean, insectoids, you know what I mean, attacking, you know what I mean, this anthill.

But in live action form, is that what the movie we're doing? Is this the beginning of production or at the end? Sally, shut the fuck up, okay? And Sally, you're on my last nerve, all right? Sally, you're fired. Anyway, guys, anyway, guys, anyway guys, anyway guys, let me cut the fucking in sook door, it doesn't make any sense, but any guys, to do a movie about the Civil War

but making it all Korean cast is my dream. You know what I mean? You don't get Hamilton, but in a different way, you know what I mean? I really, you know what I mean? And, hey, Chang, Chong, Dr. Chong, you do a great Harriet Tubman. Yeah, your Harriet Tubman's great. And, you know what I mean, Dr. Kang? Very good at, what's the guy's name?

Frederick Douglass. Thank you. Anyway, all right, bye, guys. Let's go. Let's move. Let's do it. You did a lot of great things there. A lot of, then the crew would be like, yeah.

Yay, Bobby. You did a lot of great things there. Yeah, that was really hard. You, like, pointed people out specifically. That's a good thing. You called them out by name. That's good. You spoke from your heart.

I really did. You named the project and why it's important to you. Yeah. All good things. All good things. I don't know if I would want to be a part of that project. Right. Yeah.

Oh, okay. Well, you're not casting it. I didn't invite you. That's why I can be objective about it. Okay, good. But doesn't it happen often in those speeches where they name everybody? Sometimes.

You know, it's good to like, like, I've actually like named certain departments at certain times just to say, like, if there was a great location that we were able to get to name them, you know, give them a shout out or,

you know, if there was some, incredible like stunt that we just had to do like say thanks to the stunt team you know let me let me zip

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know let me watching that trailer um how difficult was it to get in that shape to do it I mean It's a lot. I'm not as young as I used to be, man. So it was like all that fighting, I was a little bit like, I love this and give me a day to rest. Oh, really? Yeah, you need to, yeah. Like there are a lot.

We had sequences that were fight sequences that happened over several nights, night shoots all night. And so, you know, when it's cold out and you have to change the choreography at the last minute because the location isn't exactly what you thought or there's some permitting issues, you gotta think on your feet all night long and you know

it's a challenge but it's good turned out all right yeah I mean mental also mental energy that's that fucks you up too that's true you're constantly thinking

and like you know what I mean changing things because you're the executive producer you must change you must change things all the time well it's weird to think about like the work you have to do as an actor like

I need to get you know the scene right acting wise and then think oh we're losing the light and I know we've got to get this and then you put your producer hat on and you're thinking about

all those things at the same time. And because the directors do you go, you don't need a two shot here. I try to stay out of the way of the directors, but what I do talk to them about is what their plan is. And, you know, they should have a plan for how they want to shoot this

as opposed to we're going to see how it goes because that's a recipe for... But is there an argument like, you know, I was thinking about like, you know, doing a specific shot, an insert shot, where I just put these sour balls on the table like that. and you're running out of time

and you don't think that he needs it so what would you say to him? Like, DDK, I really think that we really need this like this shot right here, boom. You know, I would ask why it's important to him and what are we going to lose

if we don't have the choice if we have to make a choice between this and the other thing. So, you know, it's a conversation. Yeah, we don't really need it. I think you're right. We don't need your close-up. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

What's this? Insectoids. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that my AI version? No, this is the, when I was doing the, when I did my monologue. Insects. Insects. Yeah, yeah, wow.

That's clever. Now that sounds more interesting. Yeah. Do a Civil War, but all Koreans, closer. If Jet Shibed could do that. Look at Divided we fall. Man, that's actually. Wow.

Oh, man. Our jobs are all doomed. Yeah. Now, are you, um. Because he's sometimes I think, because we've been in it. You've been enough for a long time now. Do you ever think about retiring or now? You know, there's still stuff I want to do.

There's still stuff I haven't achieved yet. You know, like the way. Like, you feel the same way. There's still stuff you would love to do, right? And I won't, I don't think about, I won't think, I don't think I can retire until I've done those things. He's threatening to throw it all away and live off the grid. That sounds on brand. Yeah, yeah.

There's parts of me that was like, you know, I think I've done enough. Let's get out. and like live on the grid. Yeah, I mean, there's something to be said for going out on your own terms. You know what's saying? Like, I've done a certain thing and now I can move on.

How does that work, though? Like, is it something that most people announce or do you just, like, quietly, you know, fall into their recesses? I think making an announcement, that's kind of a mind field because if you say you're retiring and then you come back, you know,

everyone's like, wait a minute. We gave you all the love because you were retiring and now you're doing another thing. And let's face it In this business You know No one's forcing you to retire

You can always come back You know I'm not gonna retire Are your fucking mind I'm glad you're not You know I'm staying in it dude You shouldn't I'm gonna stay in it

Until they say No more You're still on the rise Bobby You can't retire Yeah Thank you for saying that It's true Yeah you know when people say this stuff

I'm not good with compliments are you It's hard Never do accept them Some Asian guy comes in Oh Daniel you're a real pioneer You know You really paved the way and I wouldn't be

I'm not comfortable with all I mean I I will be gracious and polite but I you know it makes me a little uncomfortable yeah but do you tell the people I tell people I'm uncomfortable that's probably a better thing yeah are you uncomfortable but do you like it do you go home and you're like God that felt nice

no I like it I don't it's uncomfortable what do you like it it's uncomfortable to receive a compliment but do you like it do you go home do you lay your bed You lay your head on your pillow and you're like, that made me feel good. No, no, absolutely not, absolutely not. What about you guys?

Andrew, you're getting a lot of them now. You like it. I like it. Yeah, me too. Do you pretend that you don't like it? No, I'm like, oh, thank you. Okay. That's nice.

What else about me? I would like more. Yeah. I ask for the more. Yeah, I think receiving. What are you? You get it now? It's awkward, but when I go to bed at night, I'm like, I really like that.

That's a good feeling. Sometimes it's too much, though. like every once in a while I'll get so uncomfortable even say but people cry like if I had that is that sound gross no it's good

no I've had that happen I know legitimate you're not making it up you know you know because a drug is an alcohol because I'm sober they go you know you help me get sober what's it why I'm holding my tongue proceed well just say it

I'm holding my tongue Wait, what? You're so full of shit. What? Literally, he texts me after. What? Okay. Since I've known you, each big show, big movie, he's like, I'm Korean Elvis, aren't I?

Every single time. Andrew, tell me he's not full of shit. Yes. Can I also say? Wait, but. Korean Elvis is right there, dude. I don't know about that. That's Korean Elvis.

Wait, I'm with Kalala. Because actually, I'm just remembering everything. Excuse me? Yeah, no, you go outside. Uh-huh, uh-huh. You go out after the show. This is the truth. This is the truth.

Yeah, like after the show, like when everybody's filing out, you're like, I'm going to go to the most crowded place where everybody's filing out to have a smoke. No, I don't fuck up. What? You're being outed, bro. That's not true. That's not true.

No, no, can I add one more thing? I don't. Let me add one more thing. And when everybody's like swarming you, you're like, oh. I can't believe this is happening. But if they get. What? What?

But if they give me a compliment, you get pissed off. Whoa. What? Yeah, you're coaching it. And you're like, I don't know. I'm like that. Thank you so much for that. I have also a defense, Daniel.

All right. Gilbert, were you just at the Dallas Improv with me? I was. Yeah. Did I go out one time and do that? No, you were full of anxiety that trip for sure. Yeah, yeah.

I had sold out four shows. Well, that's a weird night then. No, no, that's not. One time. No, Gilbert. You've seen me in packed rooms across the country. country. Do I ever go out? I will say the one memory that comes to mind is Ontario.

What happened there? I think you asked me to walk with you through the mall. Wow. Here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. To eat. Oh, yeah. Okay. Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no's supposed to teleport there?

You're right, you're right. But here's what I'll say, Bobby. Not, I fucking, not everything, not everyone is the same person all the time, right? Thank you. There are times maybe where you need the validation or a little bit of appreciation when you're feeling low and other times where you want nothing to do with it. So that's fair.

It's okay. I think so. I think you cycle through different people. Is that Ken Jung as a woman at the top? Ronnie's in it. Oh, my God. Am I in it? I think you're far left.

I'm producing. I get a small, the smallest. I didn't even know that with you. They don't even. They're in the ballpark You can see Ken Jong, right? Yeah, Ken's yeah That's Ronnie Chang to the right

That's Nora Where's Nora? Left. Nora's upper left. Oh, that is Nora, yeah, yeah. Wait, who's in the top center? Yeah, I think that's Margaret. Yeah, who's the top center, the guy with the hat.

I don't know who that is. Is that the guy from Shogun? I think that's you, dude. Is that me? Yeah, yeah, I think that's you. Is there you or you're far back right? I think maybe that's you, yeah, yeah. None of them look like me.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, none of them look like me. Yeah, see. Look at my Look at me, dude Look at people Zoom in at me, dude Why do you look so tired

I look like a fat cricket They don't do you justice down here man What's what's going on down here? Yeah, because the internet Things are fucking fat When I chat GPT It's the fat version of what I want to us Oh man

Oh my God That's insane When does that come out American Civil War It'll never be made A play for it And we have to write it We have to do it as a play.

Sell the IP. We have to do it a plate. All right. So, you know, I think that when we talk about what we just talked about you out at me in that way, I think that there's some things that you're not telling that, but you know what? I'm going to let it go. I think you're perceiving it in a weird way. I think Daniel's right.

You can be different people. And I think Daniel's right. Yeah. And it's like one day the text message is I'm going to kill myself. Like, I suck at this. And the next day being like, you know, I'm. I'm so famous and I'm Korean Elvis

You know and like people really love me Actually Korean Elvis that was a text Yes oh yeah he's been claiming Korean Elvis for a long time I love it we have merch yeah I love it I don't remember saying that but I guess you're right But also there's nothing wrong with that But who doesn't have ups and downs in this business

We all do you know and sometimes You're lucky to have like ups every once in a while Some people just don't even have them You know and they end up leaving the business Yeah, I know a lot of guys that I started with actors and comedians that aren't doing so well. And I'm very grateful that I don't know what I did. I don't know what it is, but I'm very grateful. Yeah, because you and I are the same generation, Bobby.

Like, how many of our friends have come and gone, you know? Yeah. And you're still in the game and you're continuing to rise. So, yeah, you're going to have the ups and downs. And then there's going to be times you need assurance. Like, did you really like it? Also, you do this thing where... Look at me right now, dude.

Before you say we're about to say, I do, look at me right now, all right. I've treated you like family. Let me say something about you. No, I know. How many meals have I paid for? Like a thousand. Right?

I invite you to... Thank you. Escape rooms. I love you and I appreciate you. Two escape rooms. We've done many escape rooms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you've been pissed at the end of all of them.

Oh, can I just say something about escape rooms? Don't do it with her or her. Andy or there or fucking her They're the worst to do escape room Why? Because whatever I suggest It's the wrong thing No

I go what about this thing They're like no no no Right And then I feel like I'm not good No but Bobby here's the thing You'll suggest something that we already tried like five minutes ago Hmm

And then like And then we remember the blocks that went into the thing Of the lines I figured that out Yeah but I did that first I put the box in first. You just slow. I'm slow. No, and I'm not slow.

No, but then you get mad. I'm good. You get mad because. Okay, say what you were going to say before. Okay. I think it's fun when you, I think it's fun. I like it when you do that. But when people come out to you and then we're with someone else, they'll be like,

do you know this guy? I only do it with one guy, Dumbfounded. Because Dumb Founder is so, you know, look at me. You know, you know. What's up? I'm swimming and fucking, you know what I mean? Women, you know what I mean?

I'm a regular on a show now. Look at me, right? And he says, I hip hop too. I hit pop too. You know what I mean? And he does all that. I do comedy too.

I do comedy too. And he's handsome. And every time I show a photo of him to do a friend, they go, oh, he's hot, right? So when we're in Korea town, he also claims that he's the mayor of Korea. That's true.

And I argue differently. Yeah. And then so many people are going up to you being like, oh my God, Bobby Lee. And then I'll always go, you know, you know, You know this guy?

You're the mayor of Korea? Yeah. And they go, no. And then I look and I go, it's just fun to do. And then you say to us, you go like, you're like, wait till you go to Disneyland with me. That would be crazy.

All right, cut that. Please don't cut that out. I feel so validating. If you don't cut that out, we have issues. I never said that. Why? I never said that. Why?

It's crazy if we go to Disneyland. They're your people. The people go to Disneyland. Do you go to Disneyland? I went with my kids, yeah, a few times. When? I don't know, the last time was maybe 10 years ago. After Lost.

After Lost. Yeah. Do you get recognized a lot at Disneyland? I got recognized a little bit, but not, I wasn't, I'm not the mayor of Disneyland. I'm not the, you know. I just get like, what's up, bro? Yeah, fuck yeah, dude.

You're like, I just get that kind of thing, you know what I mean? That's it. I mean, I'm excited to go to Disneyland. We're not going to Disneyland. I do want to see that. I want to see like people. What if I was lying? People go crazy.

What do they don't? I don't think you are. I was just kidding. Oh, okay. Yeah, cut the Disneyland line. All right, so, so Daniel, but you still live in Hawaii. I do. Okay, good.

I've been home in a little while. I'm homesick, but, yeah. Well, I meant to ask you. So when you're in Korea shooting, on your off days, are there great restaurants that you, like, if I went to Korea and I called you, I went, dude, what's a good place to eat? Or like, would you be able to put me in the right direction? I would definitely give you a list and make sure you show up. Yeah. Now, is the theory.

No. This is crazy. Yes. There's great eating, there's great food, there's great nightlife, there's, you know, it's a 24-hour city. But when you hear Korean people go, because I've heard Korean people say, you know, Koreatown Korean food rivals Korea. Is that true? It's different. It's very different. Like what Koreans are doing with Korean food is modernizing it and they're evolving it. And I find like American Korean food tends to be from a certain era of Korea, but it's not

as modern as what you're seeing when you go there. Now, that's changing a little bit. I just went to a couple of restaurants this trip that I felt like we're catching up to Korea, but there are food trends in Korea that take a while to come here. There's a restaurant in L.A. called Dato that we go to, and that's a Korean place,

and they do it a little differently. Even the way they put, like, to cook the meat, they use the fat to spread the oil. They don't have kimchi. They only have gaktui, I don't know. Yeah. They have just like little...

sprigs of things. But it's super fancy. It's very expensive. Yeah. When you order it, it's like you get like, it's $60, but you get like two tiny slabs. Yeah, it's very good. But it's premium meat, you know, it's, you know, they have certified Angus right outside the door.

And they'll have like, oh, the sauce is from Korea. Like we flew it here. Yeah. We went to, when we were in Dallas this weekend, we went to a Korean place late Saturday night. And it was like, middle nowhere. I was, in the middle of nowhere and I was shocked by it. I go, this is going to be garbage. And when we went, you know, I was shocked by how good it was.

Wow. I mean, you know, same with London. When I went to London doing a press tour for Lost, I went to a Korean place, ironically called Jin. And it was some of the worst Korean food I'd ever had. Wow. But the last time I went back to London, the food was so much better. Like, everything was great.

I was just there three weeks ago, London. I was there for a week, and every restaurant I went to was mind-blowing, right? Because what is the stereotype of English food? Bland, boiled meats, potatoes. Yeah. I found it to be the polar opposite, high-end. And let me say something again to everyone. I did a spa there in my hotel that was like a dream scape.

I was the only one down there. It was pink and green. faded colors on the wall. Oh, my favorite combo. Yeah, like Miami style. Yeah. But it was super dim. And they had this weird humming music.

Certain frequencies. Yeah, like frequencies, right? And I was sitting there by myself. It's clean, luxurious. And I was sitting there and I went, oh, I think this is the safest I've ever felt. Well. I felt, anyway, I don't know why you just brought that.

you want to remember a safe place yeah well I know you sometimes you're in a moment and you go oh that's a lifelong moment that I'll memorize I love that for you you're able to actually like enjoy real time things in real time that never you used to never be able to do that like be in the moment be in the moment yeah that's a good thing that's so cool well I'll tell you be honest with you

these are new practices I've done because I've been miserable so I've had to read books and really What? I know. And really just and now I feel great today. I've been, so clap for that. Yeah, right? I'll clap for that. So wait a second. How long did you feel miserable? I know like there was a

period of your life where you felt miserable, but like up to when would you say? I was good for a couple years and then the last month has been kind of bad and then now I'm kind of completely out of it. You know what I mean? So it's like, you know, this two shall pass as they say. Yeah. Do you get depressed? Not as much as I used to.

I used to get depressed a lot. Really? Mm-hmm. Do you get anxious? Yeah, sure. I feel anxious a little right now. Why? Not because of it.

This is a great podcast. No, you think it's great? It's not the podcast. It feels so good. Like, the rhythm is good. You don't get anxious, like, sitting here, Bobby? Ever? Look at me right now.

I'm anxious. No, I love you guys, but I'm anxious because my show's debuting today. Oh, fuck. We didn't even think about that. Yeah, and I want to, I want people to, to watch it. I'd love people to think it's a good show and I put my heart and soul into it, so yeah, I'm anxious. Like when you get

your numbers back, do you know? They say like 28 days after the... Oh my God. A month. So, yeah. 28 days. Anytime you do something you care about, you know, like you're going to be anxious about it or you're going to worry. You want people

to like it. Yeah. But you know what an old friend said to me? Never live in the results. That's true. Yeah. But I would say that it's hard not to in our business to some degree. Possible. You're not doing this podcast in a garage just for you and your friends.

Although, no, we did this for years for our friends. Yeah, I think in the beginning it was just like a creative outlet because nothing was happening, I think, for you and nothing was happening for me. Yeah, nothing was happening. I will say that, like, you were way ahead of the curve on the whole podcast crates, right?

But the way you've built it also depends on how. how it's received now. So, you know, you're aware of your numbers, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's, I think it's hard in this kind of a business to not be something a little bit result oriented.

But I will say, like, to me, the experience of it, independent of how it does, is something that I'll always hold special, you know? Yeah, also, I would, honestly, Daniel, I would continue even if the numbers dipped. You know, it's not, it's just, what else am I going to do? But it's not about whether you would continue. It's whether or not they would let you continue. Like, and podcasts are different. Yeah.

But for TV shows, if nobody watches it, you're getting canceled, and you can't do it, you know, even if you want to. Yeah. So that's where there's a little difference. But this was totally homegrown, and you could be homegrown again, which is... But do you think, don't you think that eventually that's what show business is leading up to, homegrown? I hope so.

You want that to happen? I used to think that was what was happening. But now if you look at all the consolidation in the business, like all these major studios buying and selling, you know, we're looking at an oligopoly. And so again... What does that mean? I've never heard of that.

You've played Monopoly? Monopoly. What is it? Alagopopoli. Yeah. You're looking at an industry that's controlled by a few mega corporations. Wow. Oh, I see.

And that's not good. It changes our prospects of where we can, buy, or where we can sell our projects to because there are fewer buyers. They have more control over the pipeline, more control over the product. Oh, less gatekeepers, but like if they don't like you, then you're out.

Yeah. There's got to be a life, though, where you can do television and film outside of that system. There's got to be some sort of way become an AI programmer. And then you can make your own movies, and that's what's going to happen. Eventually, AI technology

is going to get so good that people will be able to make movies by themselves. Wow. Are you scared of that? I am. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, I think about the number of people who will lose their jobs as a result of it. And I think about I don't really think about the people as much who are successful because what

they're doing is they're licensing their likenesses in perpetuity. So you're going to have Bruce Lee movies popping up in 20 years. Wow. And so the people who are already successful are going to be able to keep doing this and keep appearing in movies. but the people who are just starting in our business who are trying to make a name for themselves it's going to be so much harder

because extras will all be AI under fives will all be AI or young actors will say like we'll get a contract in front of them from a studio saying like we'll give you like X amount of dollars if you just give us the rights to your likeness and we'll buy you out

and so they'll never get a chance to actually get better at what they do they talk about repetitions that you need when the company just uses their face and puts them in a million different things. And it's inevitable, right? That's happening. It will happen. Oh, my God. Well, then we're fucked.

But that's the thing. We're fucked. We're fucked. I don't want to be, you know, I mean, obviously there are other people who are doing really interesting things with AI, but right now there are no guardrails. Yeah, but I mean, as a consumer, we went and saw weapons this weekend, which was, what a movie. Excellent. Yeah? I want to see it.

Yeah, we walked out of there and I went, that could have been the best movie I've seen in years. Whoa. Wow. That was fun. All right. Yeah. And we were walking out.

And in my mind, if weapons was completely AI, would I want to watch it? That's the thing. Would you know? Wouldn't they have to tell you? But it doesn't matter what you and I think. It matters what the generation who grows up with AI think. Oh, my God.

What the fuck you're saying? Yeah, I think you're right. Because, like, remember, like, when phones came out, we were saying, like, who's going to want to watch a movie on a phone? Oh. An iPad. But the little kitties

And everyone's doing it now So it's a generational thing It's what you're used to Right Oh they're like I don't even want to watch real people It's better when it's AI Yeah

Or if you want to watch your favorite Influencer do an action movie That maybe they've never acted before That influencer can be an action star Yeah wow Do you think it's gonna bleed into comedy I think it's only a matter of time

Before AI understands humor George you don't think like podcast like why would you want to listen to a podcast with AI people I have you have yeah they're pretty wonky they're pretty bad now I'm sure

but you know this technology grows exponentially not geometrically it means that like the more people do it the faster it grows and so like I hear AI voiceovers all the time and they're not perfect right now but in a couple of years they will be indistinguishable

from what voiceover artists are doing And then nobody's going to have a job. The voiceover industry will be forever changed. Wow. What are we going to do? I don't know. Fight against it? Like start eating?

We got to fish. Become an electrician or an H-VAC guy. Everyone needs to stay cool and AI always needs. You don't think robots are going to be able to, I hear that a lot. If you want to be up, you know, if you want to survive become a plumber, robots will be able to figure out how to plumb. Gene Hong told me this. Yeah, he doesn't know everything. He was like.

He doesn't know anything. Just stick to writing. Okay. Can we like start living off of the land again or no? Well, you know, you have to pay like the major food industry companies to be able to live off the land. I mean, living off the land is like even in California, you think you can just go out and catch a fish. No, you need a license to do that. And they're expensive.

Wow. So it's not like you can just be any old guy and be like, oh, I'm going to go collect muscles on the beach. No, you need a license. and it's over a hundred bucks. Wow. Yeah. What? Check out butterflies.

You can't go get muscles on your own? No, not in California. Everything is very, you need permits, you need your fishing license. It's God's land. And then you need to fill out paperwork when you collect. Like when I collect lobster, I have to say exactly how many lobster I take and then I have to submit that. But what if you go at nighttime?

That's when I go is nighttime. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but then you still have to, because if you get caught by, like, um, um, if you get caught, it's like an over $1,000 fine. Oh, wow. Yeah. So Tom Hanks and Castaway had to fill out a form to eat all these caps. Not there. Got to see what I'm talking about it already.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, like, can we just do a castaway? Yeah, and I mean, different, in California, it's something you can't live, just live off the land. That's like such a fantasy. But you can't create this. A father and son in Alexis commercial department. That looks a lot like me. that's better AI than the other one. I think this is the real one, right?

Is that the real one? That's the real one. That's the real one. That's the real one. That's the real one. That's amazing. With my son. And he was the lead. He's driving. Check out his other son, too. This guy is like, who is this guy? That guy, that's AI, dude. That's a human being.

He's perfect. That's the baby of our family. Really? Jackson. How old is Jackson? 23. Amazing, dude. And, um. Check out Butterfly and his sons

If you like his sons You'll love Butterfly Bro Your sons are so handsome They have a beautiful mom Look at him Look at you, dude Yeah, humble

Come on So watch Butterfly On August What's already passed But it's out already And Daniel Daniel de Kim Yeah

It's Daniel You're good on the piano, man How many years did you have lessons? You know, I used to have a teacher that used to slam the lid? The lid onto my fingers. You know what I mean? Trauma. Yeah, it's so traumatic.

So I would practice, you know what I mean? Was it an Asian teacher? No, it was like a Russian lady. Doing it wrong. And just slammed my fingers, you know what? So did it make you want to stop? No, what I ended up doing is I just started like learning how chords work. So I don't know how to read music anymore, but I can just, you know, put chords together and create a song.

originally. Do you do this for every show? I do, yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I play. And when I do my special, I'm going to incorporate music into my special at the end. Very nice. Yeah, yeah. I play my skills. When's your special? I shoot it in January. Well, I was in a band called Laxen Superb. This is in

the early... Oh, look at that. Oh, wow. It was in 1991. So, yeah. What? I'm the keyboardist, dude. Yeah. And that was it, lax and superb. There I am. You're like, you're the equivalent of Johan and Lincoln Park.

Yeah, that's successful. So, Dan, what else do you want to promote? First of all, I thought we learned a lot on this podcast. I thought that it was so fun. I always like talking to you. Yeah, and you know, and you have anything else you want to promote? I'm doing Avatar, The Last Airbender, season two and three. That's going to drop.

That's huge. Yeah. You're busy. Fuck. It's good to be busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, this is what we always wanted, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, so I'm doing that. You're evil in that, I think, right? I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My true nature, finally. Yeah, and then people want to watch the Broadway show that I did. You can find it streaming on PBS. That's Yellowface.

Yellowface. Wow. What's that about? Oh, it's a little complicated, but it's... Just give me the... Yeah, so, like, it starts with a playwright. who protests the casting of Jonathan Price in Miss Saigon. Ah!

It starts there, and he actually loses that battle. Jonathan Price, as you guys know, comes in to play Miss Saigon in New York, wins a Tony for it. But he was the first to protest that kind of casting, and at first the union said, we support you. And then when the producer of Miss Saigon said, well, then I'm not bringing the show in, they changed their mind. Let the show in and like pretty much kicked David Henry Wong to the curb and all the Asian protesters who were, you know, trying to fight against

it. So he starts to write a play about the experience and in the lead he cast, he's writing for an Asian American male. And as he's casting it, he mistakenly casts a white guy in the same role, in the role. Yeah, yeah. And so it's a comedy about that. Oh, that's cool. About that. And then it starts to go into like autobiographical stories about his father. And at the end, it turns into like something of a love letter to his dad. Oh, wow. So he wrote it. What's this the guy's name? David Henry Huang.

Tony Award winner for M. Butterfly. Is he still with us? He sure is. So he was there? He was there. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, he was with me, he was like five feet away from me

during the whole rehearsal process. Wow. Yeah, I want to watch that. It's on PBS? Yeah, great performance. Yeah, yeah. Go check out Yellowface. And this is pretty cool. And you have your own shoe? Oh, yeah.

I just joined 1587. It's this clothing and shoe brands started by Asian American guys and these guys. And this shirt actually is one of the first designs I made for them. What's it called? 1587.

1587, check that out if you like Korean clothing. In fact, I have some shirts for you guys. Oh, great. I wanted to check it out. So like this, Bobby, I thought of you for this because this is about Korean and America. Yeah, that's cool. Oh, dope shit. Yeah.

So if you want anything, just let me know. Wow. Yeah. Well, Daniel's doing everything, guys. He's got it all locked down. Give Daniel Dick Kim a round of applause, thank you. No.