TigerBelly - David Koechner & The Larry David Premiere
Episode Date: July 29, 2026Actor and comedian David Koechner (Anchorman, The Office) joins TigerBelly for the first time. We chat the Larry David cut, Comedy Store Obamas, makeshift tampons, SNL stories, 50-year-old gr...unts, Roblox weridos, and the Canadian comedy scene.Download the Bilt app and join the membership for where you live, at joinbilt.com/belly.For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit www.hims.com/BELLY See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Oh boy, what an episode we're about to have.
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Question, why Philadelphia?
The movie.
In your face.
We have a sick Asian guy.
Can you sit down sickish?
Thanks.
Tend to band together, huh?
Yeah.
Dendell's still in the part two, but like, you know, you're the sick one.
Anyway, welcome to the podcast.
My name is Bobby Lee.
I'm your host.
I am your leader for tonight.
And sensei.
And sensei, yeah.
I was talking about the offshoot of the Lee karate.
Yes, sure.
Slash Kung Fu?
Martial arts.
Martial arts in general, yes.
And, you know, I grew up with the karate from my family.
Can you do somersaults?
I cannot, no.
We do different moves like, you know, need it.
Little person.
Yeah, yeah, you can't say the M word anymore.
Right.
Yeah.
Why do it?
Right.
You know what I mean?
All slurs are gone.
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Yeah, yeah.
But we're trying to weed it out of this one.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Slowly.
But surely we are.
You know what you can't be a whiplash.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We have beautiful guests today.
Beautiful.
We have Sophie bottles here.
Oh, we're doing an order of most beautiful.
Nice.
That's true.
The first time you've done, Tiger Belly.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, welcome.
Thank you.
We have the old, you know, semen.
Oh, old semen.
Yeah, Luke.
What?
Well, you've just been here, you've been doing it every episode.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, thank you, yeah.
Yeah, I'm not talking about.
Seamfarer.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
You made it dirty.
That's not what I'm talking about.
That's right.
He has young semen.
Yeah, he has young semen.
Unless you've got some old semen on your shirt.
He collects it.
He collects it.
It is an old shirt.
You have, you know, Clint Eastwood's semen.
You do?
Yes, he does.
Yeah, he has a collection.
That would be a really kind of odd, but very cool collection.
Yeah.
Of semen.
But nobody would want someone else to have, you wouldn't want someone to be collecting your semen.
No, but people do collect like Napoleon's penis and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm sure that's.
what, $500 million?
I'd pay for that.
I think people will start collecting semen.
I think that's, and have it in like
kind of ornate perfume bottles.
You are going to have the best chance of being the best collector.
I mean that, in the best,
it'd be more difficult for us to collect that semen.
Yeah, yeah.
It's actually interesting, you brought that up.
I brought a few jars.
Yeah, yeah.
You're hopeful.
Oh, jars.
Yeah.
You're collecting a lot of seamers.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, get Dick Van Dyke, Simon, because he's about to.
Is he, he, he seemed very well.
He's still alive.
I know, but he seems very well.
It's frying, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, every time that he pops up, smiling.
Smiling, yeah, but he's 101 now, no?
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
I think of what it is, yeah.
I remember they did have his 100th birthday.
Whatever, okay.
The whites really age well sometimes.
So why they die, but they go a long time.
Nobody's ever said that.
Yeah, I don't.
That was the first time I've heard that.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Like, in terms of like, you know what I mean,
they have, they look.
bad.
Yeah.
But they live a long time.
Thank you for clarifying.
No, because obviously they look bad.
The final form of a white person, I think, is looking shitty and old.
So it's like you've been waiting for a white person to look like this the whole time.
He looks good.
He is in a hospital bed.
So good color on him.
But let's let me introduce our main guest.
Right.
Please.
Anchorman movies, television, film, legend.
To me.
Legend.
Yeah.
David Kekner, give him work.
Thank you.
Dave and I recently worked together.
Yes, we did?
Yeah.
Our first time we actually worked together.
The first time we've ever worked together.
We've been knowing each other for years.
Knowing each other around the scene for years, right?
But the first time we worked together, and I don't think it came out.
No, no, it didn't.
He called you, right?
He called me, yeah.
Yes.
So we were honored enough to be asked to be part of Larry David's new sketch show for HBO
celebrating the 250th
anniversary of this hellhole
of this whatever
this free country
this ironically free country
anyway
so then we both got a call about three weeks
before the premiere from Larry David
from Larry himself
and he goes
it didn't work yeah I know I didn't work
is that his that's his voice
yeah it didn't work
it wasn't funny enough
close impression
That's how he sounded to me.
Can I, can I take a whack at why I think it didn't work?
Me.
No, no, no, no.
That's what I, that's what I take from it.
No, no, no, not at all.
It was against his normal formula.
So I thought about it from a minute.
I'm like, why didn't it work?
So no only Larry interrupts people's lives in a way,
he makes an intrusion into their life,
but he's in a position where it does interrupt their life
because of his peculiarities.
I'm looking for Sophie to help me with words.
But anyway, in our particular sketch, here's the thing.
In every other sketch, Larry inserts himself into people's lives and becomes a problem.
Now, it looks like on our sketch, Larry's inserting himself in our lives and becomes a problem, but it's not because we don't need him.
Oh, right, right.
We don't need him.
Had he said, I'll be right back with X, Y, and Z, then we would have a chance to be disappointed.
Yeah.
But there's no stakes.
Right.
So the stakes for him was he's going to lose big because he doesn't get in on the goal.
But that wasn't enough drama to sustain the sketch.
Well, I didn't think of it that way.
I didn't either.
Yeah, yeah, I thought of it.
No, well, you did.
Well, I didn't tell after he said it just didn't work.
Yeah.
But then he gave it some thought.
I'm like, oh, because he went away from his form.
That's not how I took it.
I took it like, oh, I was terrible.
No.
It's important to take all editing personally.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Because here's what I thought I fucked up at is I was interrupting, trying to be funny.
That's okay.
Yeah, and I think at one point they're like,
yeah, it's not like that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got that note.
It seems like I didn't get that note.
Yeah, yeah, I got that note.
We're improvising, yeah.
So it's all fair, and that's the guy.
The note doesn't shut it down.
Yeah.
What it does is it reminds us, okay, here's where you want me to,
this lane, okay, very good.
Right.
That's define the lane that I can just mind, ha-ha,
mine from there.
Yeah, oh, we're doing turn-taking.
Oh, yeah, with turn-taking, yeah.
And sometimes it, they were,
like it's too fun. Like it was too like you're trying it's it's about
David. Larry right yeah it's about Larry yeah you were outshining him that was the
problem no no no no that's no wow Bobby that's what I
read it wrong bit evilistic was not within the plot
yes that's probably more so what I what I took from it I didn't
when he called me I didn't think that it's just when I went to the premiere
and I saw all the other sketches yeah and I went oh you know I should
I played it more straight.
Well, but that wasn't, I don't think that was the problem.
Okay.
I think it was that particular formula didn't work because we didn't.
He wasn't interrupting our lives.
Yeah.
He did momentarily, but not in such a way that we didn't need him.
He normally comes into people's lives and he turns the Apple Card over and they're all sitting
there going, why, right?
Yeah.
But that's not the case with this one.
I didn't make it to the premiere because Mike, I got the days mixed up.
What?
Yes.
I didn't see you there.
I know.
Yeah.
Well, that's not true.
Actually, I told this young man something.
No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, Luke, tell me what, what David said.
Well, but be nice.
Okay.
Well, I actually, I, there was a scheduling error.
A scheduling air.
Oh, good.
Okay, very good.
Very good.
Because I've got a pretty full life.
I've got the five kids and I travel every weekend.
Yeah.
And so I think I was expecting a little bit more of notice that, hey, remember you got that big thing tonight.
Oh.
Pretty big deal.
Yeah.
I mean, of all the things I'd like to do in my life, that would have been one of them.
Yes.
It was a great time.
Were the Obama's there?
They were not.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's why I want.
That makes it easier.
That's why you want.
Because they weren't there because they were, you thought they might be there.
Yeah.
Obama's kids were at the comedy store the other night.
Really?
No.
His daughters, yeah.
And I was sitting in that back booth in the main room watching the show, and I was there with my friend.
And my friend had just hooked up with a comic.
And we saw him.
Okay.
And this is a show.
This is relevant.
This is relevant.
So he was like walked into the room and we clocked him because we wanted to see how he was going
to act after they hooked up.
And then he just kind of like walked by and didn't really talk to us.
And then I followed him out to give him a piece of my mind.
And then I went up to him kind of coming in hot and he was like, oh my God, I freaked out.
That's that Sasha and Malia right next to you.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And so then I went in and I talked in and I told my friend.
And then we would just watch them and watch the whole show the whole.
It was actually a very happy ending.
Is there security with them?
I think so, but they were hanging back.
Yeah, I mean, they let them live their lives.
Yeah, they weren't in the booths with them.
That's such a difficult life to have forever.
Yeah.
Especially because on top of it, you're a young lady.
Sure, I think all young ladies should have security.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, you got to get that.
Security and they should also get their menstrual cycle off.
I do believe that.
Get it off?
Yeah, yeah.
Like you and I had to go to work.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I thought you meant off, like turn it off.
No, sure.
No, no, like you should have that time off.
Thank you.
Every month.
You know what, fuck you, turn it off too.
I support that.
Whoa, dude.
I don't like that.
Three women.
Three, that.
Is there a dial on that thing?
You guys feel pretty comfortable talking about menstrual cycles.
Do you all have a sister's daughter?
I have been married.
I have three sisters.
I had a mother.
I have three daughters.
Lots of blood.
No, it's all fine.
Here's the thing I love.
My daughter, we were at a wedding
in Kansas City a year ago.
Who's wedding?
My nephews.
You don't know him.
You thought you were going to say
Brad Pitt or like that's excited?
Oh, I see. I see.
Yeah, yeah, possibly.
Maybe Matt Damon's daughter or something.
But anyway, my daughter
had, I don't know how to reframe this, but she needed a tampon. And she mentioned, if, if I
asked my dad for a tampon, it'd be here under five minutes. Yeah. Which is true. No, how? Because I would
go get one from the front desk or whatever it took. Okay, but what if there's no tampons around?
Is there a situation where there's no tampons around for Miami? We're in a city.
Okay, you're in a city. In a hotel. Not a church. I'm sure there's one in a church. Of course there is.
Okay. I mean, I used ones, you're fine.
You're on, you know what, there's some in here?
In this, my house.
Of course there is.
Yeah.
Let me know, no, no, because you are.
I have a girlfriend, you know what I mean?
Jules is like my daughter.
She probably has some.
They're not on the kitchen table.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay, let's move on from that.
I believe you. I believe you.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
My question to you, David, is how quickly could you produce a pad?
Oh.
It's tricky.
It depends on where it is.
I mean, we're at a hotel is the same situation.
No, you're in the country.
Now you're in the country.
No, in the country.
Well, I'm probably gonna just probably rip part of my shirt.
Get some hay, collect some hay or something.
Yeah.
That almost feels like the, like putting the jacket on the puddle.
So gentle.
Couldn't you just take a, like, a used t-shirt and make something?
Can you do that?
Yeah. A lot of people do, like, toilet paper if you're in a pinch.
Oh, you're in a, oh, really?
Yeah, it's gross, though.
Yeah.
It is. Why?
It turns into like a very weird paper mache.
paper mache situation.
It's not ideal.
I'm sure it comes up every day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
We don't know.
We don't experience that.
But men have hormonal cycles too.
It's just 24 hours instead of like month.
We do?
We do.
That's why men have most testosterone in the morning when you wake up and then it goes
down throughout the day.
Where's mine?
Where's my pad?
Yeah.
So this is peak tea right now.
I'm seeing peak tea from you guys right now.
I see, wow.
You know, having a girlfriend again,
I realize the extra problems they have in terms of tramps.
Right.
You forget about those things.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, we forget about them because we never thought about them.
Yeah.
It doesn't happen to us every year.
Yeah, yeah, I apologize for they forget.
And, you know, it's much worse for some ladies.
I have a pretty easy time, but I try not to like, you know, put that out there too much.
Oh, here we go.
Science.
I don't like when you have an easy time.
Here we go, side.
Yeah, yeah.
So what's the orange?
I can't.
I can't.
I don't like this.
I'm not in the...
What's the blue?
Very upsetting.
It's with the moon cycles as well.
They're synced up with the moon like a werewolf.
It is.
It's like a tide.
Yeah.
But it's like a good werewolf, you know.
Not like a scary way.
You wanted to get off this conversation.
Why?
Well, you said our kids move on.
I did?
No, I do.
I do.
I want to talk about menopause.
Okay.
Yeah.
Let's talk about the premiere.
Okay.
Let's stick it to menopause.
I see your periods.
I raise you menopause.
I just realized we're not going to be able to get back to it.
All right.
Let's go back.
Was this like a Pulp-Fiction move?
You can go back.
Now, did you have a plus one?
I did.
My girlfriend.
Wow, I don't think I had a plus one.
You did.
I did.
100% you did.
I messed up.
Bobby, I heard recently that you have a girlfriend now.
Yeah, I did.
I just said it.
He said it so many times.
My girlfriend.
My girlfriend was saying that.
Yeah.
Okay, sorry, I won't bring it up.
I won't bring her up again.
No, it's just like you want to talk about her.
Why not?
To be celebrated.
It should be celebrated.
If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't have missed a premiere.
I scoured the room to see if you were there.
Oh, I would have found you.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, we were all.
clumped together.
Oh, the cast?
Wow.
No, yeah, it was like,
my castle,
you know what I mean,
and Vince Vaughn was like over here,
and it was,
we're all kind of in a little group.
It would have been fun, wow.
It would have been, yeah.
I was very disappointed.
It's okay.
I know.
Yeah, I mean, you've been
a bigger premieres.
Have I?
Yeah, the Anchorman premiere.
Okay.
Those are huge.
Premiers are fun.
Yeah.
Come on.
We're trying to say it's out of it.
It was one of the better premiere.
It does have a lot.
It does have a fun.
because there was community there.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
You just, you might come across someone's mind
because it is a networking.
Yeah, it was a huge networking opportunity.
I never seek those out.
It was all of us and we were actually before it even came on,
we were laughing so hard.
And just wandering for life in a way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It felt like pure life there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was like, I choose my life.
Yeah, okay.
Not the one.
I'll be honest to you, and I don't want to, you know,
rattle any feathers.
Is that a term?
Yeah. Rattle.
Yeah. I don't want to rattle any feathers.
It might be ruffle.
Yeah, anyway.
Why I said, right?
You can rattle them.
You can rattle them.
Yeah, yeah.
You can do all kinds of things with the feathers.
Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
That is absolutely true.
Yeah, yeah, I had to think about that for a second.
That's probably one of your karate moves.
But anyway.
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experiences of my life.
Wow.
My God.
Bobby.
Why are you rushing in his face?
It's fine.
If I really think about it.
You've heard in the book, The Road Less Traveled.
That's my life.
I used to be an assistant and I...
To who?
To an agent, to a Hollywood agent.
And I messed up so much stuff.
My boss missed so much stuff.
Did you get fired?
Be honest.
He was the nicest guy ever.
So, like, I didn't get fired, but, you know,
a normal regular person would have fired me for sure.
Yeah.
So you must have been very young.
This was about a year ago, maybe, two years ago.
You look very young.
Yeah, he's very young.
You messed up.
That was really bad.
Yeah.
One time I sent him to a meeting in New York.
And I sent him to the, I looked up the address, copy, paste it, sent him, said, go to this address, blah, blah, blah.
He goes, gets there, shows up.
It's a Chinese restaurant.
It's like not the office at all.
He calls me and is like, where did you get this address?
Which was, you know, through intuition, I knew this means he's probably in the wrong place.
No one ever calls you and goes, where did you get this address?
I'm in the exact right spot.
How are you feeling at this point?
I panicked. I was like, I couldn't breathe. I was like, oh, this is really bad.
I just started working for him too. And he was in Brooklyn and the actual address was in Manhattan right across the street from his hotel.
He'd take a 45-minute train ride. He ended up being two hours late for the meeting.
I sent him to the right address. He gets there. He's like, what floor is it on? I'm like, floor.
Like, I don't realize that in New York, like, everything's on a floor. It's not just like the address.
And I had a call and assistant inside the building and they had to scream out the window to start.
screaming his name.
It's a movie.
What agency was it?
You could say it.
Wow!
You would think that it would be like a small, you know.
No, it's a big agency.
Luckily he was the nicest guy ever and was pretty chill about it, but it was definitely
like a huge, I mean, he was so late.
Do other assistants help each other?
Is there a network of like camaraderie?
I mean, the yelling out the window is like, that's a pretty good move to get a general
direction.
I, that assistant, I mean, it was, they help you for the most part.
Is there a general brotherhood?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In New York generally, this is, think about this, okay, right?
There's got to be a floor, right?
And also a sweet number.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah, I mess up.
And as an assistant, if you don't know that, you're fucking fired, man.
Yeah, but also like, you're, you're, you're, you're the agent.
Like, you know, you know.
They don't know anything.
They don't know anything.
They don't know anything.
They haven't given me anything in two years.
Well, here's the thing.
There was a period where I was, like, writing on a show.
and touring every weekend.
And so I had an assistant during that period.
And my agent also had an assistant.
And my manager also had an assistant.
And so my manager and I, both of our assistants,
were like unavailable for a week or two.
And we were like walking around the city in diapers.
We couldn't get anything together.
Nobody can do anything.
It's crazy.
I've gotten my boss like passports last minute, all this stuff.
I remember once he walked by the desk one day,
he was just like, you've been paying my credit card, right?
And I was like, yeah.
Yeah, totally.
Totally. And then I have to like figure out like, okay, how do I get this guy's password and figure out of
start paying his credit card without him realizing I haven't been. Why doesn't he have a business manager?
Yeah. He's an assistant. I'm the assistant. I'm the assistant. So I do it.
I wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. I would have a business manager. Yeah. In terms of that. Finance.
You trust you trust somebody with absolutely everything. Passport, bank stuff. Like it's, it's so crazy.
The reins you hand over when you can't handle doing it yourself. Yeah. Yeah.
I have that.
People doing things for me.
I don't know how anything works.
Of course.
Yeah.
Well,
I didn't pay taxes for rumor.
I didn't pay taxes.
We're going to edit this part.
We're going to edit this part.
Wait,
you got to hear.
Yeah,
yeah,
this is going to be a caroltsman-
See a situation here.
What happened?
What?
I didn't pay taxes.
When I was on Matt TV,
I didn't pay any taxes.
You didn't know you had to.
I didn't know how I had to.
Right?
I thought it just automatically happened.
Well, in a way it does,
but you said the file.
Yeah, I never did that.
You know, I like it's taken off, right?
Yeah, that's what I said.
They take it.
Yeah.
What happened?
And then one day I was like, you know, everything shut down.
My bank accounts, everything was shut down.
And then all the thing.
The IRS. Yeah, the IRS took over.
And then all of a sudden I had to get, you know what I mean, a business manager to help me get on.
That's what I did too.
I got a $23,000 bill from the IRS.
Yeah.
Because I'd been, because, you know, we work a lot.
And so you'll have, you know, how many different jobs in a year.
Yeah.
And so you've got all of these pay stubs and all these things to try to figure out.
It is pretty complex.
Yeah.
I had hundreds and thousands of dollars.
Oh my God.
Because you didn't pay for 10 years, so did you?
It was a lot.
A lot.
So did you negotiate?
Are you getting calls or like creditors weren't coming?
No, I didn't know.
Well, I never took the mail or like anything like that.
Yeah.
Or my email or anything like, right?
So I was like literally like in a bathroom.
Like I thought I was going to, I thought it was all over.
Wow.
Prison for 50 years like El Capone.
All right.
That's it.
That's right.
They'll get you on taxes.
If you've got, if you've got civilists.
It'll get you on.
taxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Canada, when you're, because I was, I didn't pay my taxes for years
either because I was a Canadian stand. I was making $9,000 a year. Like, I had no, and so in Canada,
when you're getting in trouble from the government, you get letters in the mail that are in a
brown envelope. And I remember just always seeing them and just putting them straight into the
building recycling. Again, oh, brown. At $9,000, I don't think they should touch it.
I don't think they should even contact me. Exactly. It's what's about the filing of it. It's not
about paying it. You sound just like them, David.
That's what they're doing. He talks to me.
That's what they're doing. Should be part of the Canadian government.
I don't know. That's a reason
for it. You probably would get money back.
You sound like my dad is.
How old is your dad?
How old is my dad? Great question.
And I hope you stay curious.
What, like 60?
Like 60? You don't know how old is your father is?
Do you guys not have a relationship?
No, we have a great relationship.
You don't know how old your dad is?
I just don't know how old anybody is.
How old is your dad?
Who are you? Dr. Phil?
What's going on here?
How old is your dad?
He's passed away.
Well, lucky you.
You don't have to know.
Today's his birthday.
Today's his birthday.
Would have been.
Is that true?
In your face, Sophie?
Not either of your face.
It's fine.
I'm 63.
Do you know your dad was born?
Um, no.
Let me ask.
Can I ask you this question?
Because I've been really thinking about my age.
Okay, so I'm, I'll be 55 in September.
Okay.
And my-
You guys both look great, by the way.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, people say,
like,
whatever if I mean.
Anyway.
Yeah.
No, I want to sink into this, right?
All right.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Okay, okay.
Are you not good with compliments,
both of you?
Sometimes when they say it,
I don't know if they're really,
of course.
Yeah.
Are you really being real?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Thank you then.
Thank you.
But, I think, but, um.
I hurt you.
What happened?
What happened?
Yeah.
You did like a little bout.
Lots, lots, lots.
Is it your body went into fighter,
I know, I know.
So, um, I'm 55.
My, my body's breaking down a little bit.
You can just tell, like, you know what I mean?
I'm trying to do a pull up, right?
And it's just like, oh, I'm done for like a week.
But you're trying.
Pull-ups are impossible, first of all.
So that's not your fault.
They're very hard.
Yeah.
Because I got a pull-up machine.
from TikTok.
He set it up.
Alex set it up.
Yeah, what's the machine?
It's not a machine.
It's not a machine.
It's just the bar.
Oh, okay.
You don't turn it on.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, right, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
You do dips, right?
Yeah.
So, you know, and Alex was saying, just hang.
Yeah, it's good for your spine.
Good for your spine.
Yeah.
You know, and I can hang for what?
Four seconds.
That's great.
Yeah, yeah.
Hang out a little.
But anyway.
It's okay.
My point is that, you know, do you,
you're 63 now.
I'll be 64 in August.
Is there any...
Can you tell me where the physical changes happen or no?
You have to...
You have to keep walking.
That's all you had to do.
Like the Japanese.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And start smoking.
So the big thing is...
Things come along like, you know,
you just start getting in a belly
that's harder to get rid of.
Yeah, my belly.
You just have to start eating.
It's visceral fat, I hear.
Is that right?
Yeah.
I want to know when all the sounds start
because men make the craziest sounds.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for that.
You're late 50s.
Everyone's pointing at me right.
No, because it's a perfect thing.
It's perfect.
I have that in my act now.
Because my dad used to make sounds.
Yeah.
I'm wondering when that happened.
In your late 50s, I think.
Okay.
It's the first time.
Let's stuff like this.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You start sitting in the sink and stuff.
Oh, my God, so much sitting in the sink.
So the old Korean men in the spas do this sound, okay.
Agu, Igu, Igu, I go, I go, I go, okay.
Agu, Igu, I go.
I go, I go.
I go, and they, they touch, I don't know what it means.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I don't know what it, barely speaking, Korean.
But it's, and then they touch a part of their body.
Uh-huh.
Right, so they go, Igu, I go, I go, I go, right.
I go, oh, his head hurts or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
But that's a Korean sound, you know.
Oh, right, right.
What's an American sound that one?
Ha!
Yeah.
Yes, the throat clearing.
Yes.
That sound, what is going on in that sound?
It's effort for no reason?
I see.
It's unnecessary effort.
It's a car sputtering.
Yeah.
Like, you can't really get going.
When you're starting it, you can't start a lawnmower.
Exactly.
Going up a hill and manual.
My damn list of, you go,
ah!
All right.
It's pain related.
No, no, not at all.
Oh, yeah.
Tell me the physics and the technology.
It makes no sense.
I think they're doing it for attention.
I think it's performance.
I'll catch myself and go, oh my God,
or my kids will say,
Dad, you're making so many noises.
I had to talk to my dad about sighing in movie theaters.
Oh, yeah.
The sighs, classic.
And he would, like, really, I guess, not enjoy a trailer
and he'd go, ugh.
But he's like, doesn't even notice that he's doing it.
Yeah.
I'll say pass.
Like some trailers, oh, my God, I'm just like, pass.
Yeah.
Like, how do you make that?
Sometimes you're like smash.
All right.
A lot of it's smash.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, let me say something.
Did you guys see The Odyssey?
Yes.
Did you see it on 70?
70?
What an asshole.
70 million.
No.
That's a valid way.
I know.
I said 70.
Some of us can't afford 70.
Yeah, no.
Some of us are working class.
I saw it at AMC.
They started selling it a year in advance.
They've been sold out.
I know.
I thought, yeah.
Yeah.
I said at the regal.
in North Hollywood.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's nothing.
I saw it at the grove.
Yeah.
That's nice.
I haven't seen it yet.
You haven't seen it?
No.
I want to go with all the kids, so that's tough to organize.
Okay.
But you want to see it in 70?
I'd like to.
Yeah.
And I think the, thank you for following my lead on 70.
Yeah.
We're too hip for this room.
But, yeah, that's a great experience.
We saw, we saw, what's the last one from Nolan?
Oppenheimer.
Yes, Oppenheimer.
In 70.
And where were we, Glendale?
And my kids were just kind of fighting to go.
They didn't want to go.
They were resisting.
Yeah.
But I'm like, you're going to, they loved it.
Well, how old are they?
What's strange?
So Charlie's 27, Margaret's 24, Sergeant and Audrey are now 20, and Eva's 15.
So this was two years ago.
So then subtract.
That's a good spread.
That's a good spread.
And everybody's got lots of stuff going on.
So that is hard to rank.
That's very hard.
Yeah.
Eve is at sleepaway camp.
and she's an LIT, not a CIT.
I always thought CIT.
Leader in training.
Oh, leader in training.
Thank you.
I was.
Thank you, because I asked her, I said,
what's LIT mean?
Yeah.
I said, is it litigant in training?
She was, what's a litigant?
I'm like, you're my smart girl.
You're the smart one.
She is.
I have to tell a quick story.
May I?
You can do whatever you want.
You're the guest.
May I?
You're an honored guest.
He's quick.
I just had to brag a little bit.
You just say, make it quick?
He said, I want to tell a quick story.
I'm taking it.
Do you remember the,
The National Walkout Day early this year was January.
We weren't supposed to go to work.
Yeah.
So I got an email of that day.
Or buy anything, right?
Right.
Yeah.
I was in Louis of Kentucky that name.
I bought so much that day.
Did you?
You're the real.
You're the real.
You're the real.
Yeah.
So anyway.
And he didn't need it.
Yeah.
It's like you could have bought it.
It's on urgent purchase.
A ladder.
But you are a roofer.
Yeah.
So anyway, I got an email from her school that there had been a walkout, like they, you know, in solidarity.
And then Eve calls me later that day.
She was, Dad, did you hear about today at school?
I said, yeah.
She goes, do you know who started it?
I said, no.
She was, I didn't.
She's a freshman.
Wow.
And then I go, they have Dad's Club.
So like four times a year we'll come and cook lunch for the girls, right?
And this woman came up to me.
She goes, oh, you must be Eve's dead because her face is your face.
true and she hates it but she goes
that day of the walkout the
speech she gave I said speech
wow right
she's leading a whole like Lord of the
Fly thing that's cool
that's so exciting that's so cool
and have you always tried to maintain
like an anti-government
household? Not anti-government but
a good person
and the capitalist or like what is
why is she such an an anarchy
be a good person
yeah yes and that should align you with all
all the right ideals.
No, that gives me hope, actually, David.
Well, but, wow.
Yeah, because you, no, I'll tell you,
because you hear a lot of, you know,
me young people staying in basements,
you know what I mean,
the lonely epidemic thing that's going on
with young men, you know, and then you see that
to you, what are you talking about?
That's stuff that I see.
I understand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't do this to me.
I didn't mean, I wasn't doing it to you.
I was doing it to the idea
that these men are, you know,
that's a choice to disengage.
and that's where this darn thing needs to go away.
It destroyed everything.
Finish your thought.
Well, I will.
Thank you.
I'm sorry, I interrupted like you, the way you did in the Larry Davis.
Oh, so you held a resentment.
You knew, so you knew he was.
You held a resentment.
Oh, my God.
There was a callback, and I never even noticed it.
You brought it up, and that's something that never even crossed me.
my radar on that day. I'm quick here
you know. So I don't even
know what I was ranting about. What was that? Oh, the only
yeah, so what I'm saying is that you know it gives me hope
because you know, at least on my
algorithm, right, you see
a lot of dystopian thing going on
with young people, right? And for me
to see young people really take
an initiative and become a
leader like your daughter and like that
gives me a lot of fucking hope. I think that
it's actually not as bad as everyone was saying
it is because a lot of those kids that were
like weirdly socially affected by
by COVID, by missing like a chunk of socializing years with COVID,
are now starting to enter the age where they can like drink alcohol and stuff.
And everyone's always talking about how like Gen Z doesn't drink alcohol.
And it's like because they were children.
Right.
And so I think as soon as they start like going to college and partying and drinking and having sex with each other
because that's also a big part of it.
They're just like not fucking.
But I think as soon as they and no matter how many times I ask them to.
And so I think that as soon as these kids start drinking alcohol, what is this?
They put up a picture.
Sorry.
What are you doing here?
is a picture of not the right time.
I took this like five minutes ago.
We'll get that in a second.
Who's drinking and fucking fucking.
No, no, that's me and my kid.
Oh, right, right. So no one.
Go ahead.
That's nice.
I took them to Ireland last year.
Nice.
It does sound like the daughter who is staging a walkout
and giving a speech, like
and staging like a revolution, is the scariest
person to go see Oppenheimer with you.
Just like, so the movies.
Under no jerk, I'm saying.
Well, we'll be going to happen.
Did you finish your point or no?
No, my point was just I think as soon as they start drinking,
a lot of the weirdness that we're worried about with that generation
is going to mellow out because they're weird socially
and they're not having sex with each other and I think alcohol will smooth that out.
Oh, wow, wow, yeah, good point.
Alcohol's the answer.
Alcohol is always the answer.
Yes.
Well, it was too much of the answer for me.
Depends how much you question, right?
So, wow, five children.
Five kids, there's Charlie on the right.
And then Audrey is one of the twins
And then her twin brother, Sargent's all the way to
Left on our screen
Yeah
And then Margo is the 24 year old
And then there's our champion Eve
Oh
Wow
Wow
It's a good squad
It's a good squad, yeah
And they seem so happy
Oh, we had a great time
Is it hard to travel like with like a big family like that
Or is it?
Yeah
defensive
All right
Yeah
Does everyone get their own room?
No
No, okay go
Oh people share
The brother share
I think that's a big part of a family trip
Is the accommodation
should be, like everyone should have to share room.
Oh, yeah.
I think that's important.
We just went back for a family reunion,
and they were resisting that because it's been a couple years,
but man, they had the best time.
I'm from one of six.
So there are 26 grandkids that, like,
my parents have 26 grandkids,
even though they're both passed away.
But anyway, they all bonded really hard.
But when your son goes,
Dad, I don't want to go this year.
Right.
Like, Dad, like, I got my own life.
Plus, it's over the Fourth of July.
I'm like, yeah, like, LA is not the place to be on the Fourth of July.
So what do you say when your dad's...
It's important that we do this.
But, Dod, dude, I'm going to arrive.
Why do you think he's un-hawked that way?
I don't know.
I made that choice.
Can I make the choice?
I'm not like you, Dodd.
I paint.
All right?
I'm not an actor.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so are your kids...
Okay.
Have they expressed interest in showbiz at all?
And how do you feel about that?
I'm fine with it.
Just do it, go all the way.
Go all the way.
Any of them actors?
Not quite.
Okay.
One of them has been entertaining it.
Yeah.
And with less pursuit.
Now, if you want to go to TikTok, Sargento underscore official.
Okay.
Sargento underscore official.
He sings Corridos, which is a Mexican form of, a style of Mexican music.
Are you Mexican?
No.
Okay, okay.
Sometimes.
I get my skin.
I know, but.
I know, you could be half.
With this skin,
this is, it's almost August.
I know.
I'm as white as a sheet.
Like Tom,
like Tom, Sagar is half Peruvian.
Yeah, even Louis C.K., Mexican.
Yeah, he's Mexican, too.
You know what I'm saying?
Just like you.
Some of the whites are deceptive.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, not this one.
Anyway, okay.
So, Sarhentz, there is your son.
There it is.
Sarhinto underscore official.
Nice.
Go to this one, I want to him sing or something.
What?
Is it?
There's a music video.
Three billion.
down below
a little blower
but yeah
you'll hear him sing
that's what he's doing
in each one of these
wow go check him out
yeah
that's awesome
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah go
if you guys
put the headphones on
you can hear it
oh oh
oh
okay
okay
this night
yeah
yeah
okay
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
He might as well be brown.
Yeah.
So he went to Latin America instead of college
where his sister went to university.
He went to Latin America to do language immersion.
And then his buddy's dad owns a recording studio in Van Nuys.
And my son wanted to go back to Guatemala
because he had jobs that he could do.
But I heard him this tape that he made.
I say tape.
It's not a tape, obviously.
This digital record.
This digital.
thing.
Call it. Call it.
And I said, you're not going anywhere, dude.
You're staying here and following this through.
Oh, yeah, yeah, right, right, right.
He did go back to Wondomala for two weeks, but I mean,
so he's pursuing it.
They have a favorite event tomorrow night in Oxnard.
That's amazing.
Yeah, yeah.
You seem like a great father.
I do, I try.
That's all you can do is try.
Now, look, now I wish I, you do wish you could go back because you can't go.
because you can't go back.
I know you can't.
All you can do is what you do now.
I've told my kids, I said,
if I have to apologize for anything,
have no fear.
I will not fight you on it.
I will apologize and then make amends.
Wow.
And so how do you talk to your sons
about like man stuff?
Because I feel like that is like a really hard thing
for dads to do sometimes
because when you were their age,
it was kind of different as it is for everything.
My parents are severely, we're severely Catholic.
So there was no talk.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, no, we talk about everything.
And so when did you choose that you were going to talk to your kids?
About.
About serious stuff as opposed to like your-
Forever.
Yeah?
Yeah, from the beginning.
Like, I'm, I'm, I'm, too much.
I'm always trying to give them advice.
Oh, you're trying to, you're too there emotionally.
Yes.
Yeah, no.
Oh, yeah, I'm 100%.
I'm, you put on a commercial, I will ball my eyes out.
And they'll look down the couch and, yep, there he goes.
Yeah.
My dad was never not like that.
He was very, death was always the end.
answer to everything. What's true?
If you do drug,
I kill you.
Oh, he was going to kill you. Yeah, yeah.
It wasn't doing you. It wasn't.
Everything was just that.
It wasn't death as an animal.
No, no, no, no. I will.
Yes. If you become a homeowner,
when you get old, I kill you.
And then you're like, okay,
these are things that I don't want to die.
So I'm just going to do, you know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah. It becomes very simple.
It's very simple. Very simple.
Yeah.
If you go to Mikkodonr.
Is that McDonald's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's an idea.
He would even do demonstrations of what it would be.
You know, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah.
To show that he's serious.
Well, he didn't speak a lot of English,
and he was, like, just an very angry Korean man.
Okay, north or South Korea?
North, obviously.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I forgot to read your bio before I came into the show.
Yeah, obviously.
I mean, Un.
We changed it out at the book.
order, but I, yeah. But yeah, so, a father, and then, but you have one person in the house now.
My house? Yeah. No, no. Okay. No, they'll come around. So there's Charlie and there's, like, Sergeant
lives with me and Audrey's here for the summer. Now, I'm so happy because Eve just got a, um, uh,
the canopy bed and new, a new dresser and side table, uh, because she had felt more comfortable staying
her mother's. Okay. And so when she said she wanted that, I'm like, bang. And then so she
Oh, that's so funny. My parents were not together and it was really like when, you know,
when my dad found out that there was something maybe my mom wouldn't get me, he was like,
this is how I win. You do want to win. Oh, you want a tube top? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.
There's a lot going on. No, no, no. He never touched me just to be with the camera. He never
was attracted to me at all. It was just two socks, though. Anyway, um.
It'd still be a tube top.
Yeah.
So there is, like, this little hidden kind of war that goes out in a divorce or no?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, we had...
Fun.
No, it sounds fun.
No, it was...
It was acrimonial.
It still is.
It is.
It is fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, I prefer not to have ever been there.
But anyway...
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of pain.
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
You get through it.
You know, it's whatever.
Is all your children from the same wife?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, here's the thing.
Tell me everything.
Real quick.
You don't have to be quicker about it because, you know, these are things that...
I want to get out of here.
Okay.
Do you really want to get out of here?
You're not having fun?
I'm kidding.
Of course I'm having fun.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so we've fun with you.
This is the biggest night of my life.
Bigger than any Larry David premier.
We got married and we were pregnant in two months.
Wow.
Think about it.
thought she'd been on the pill for 10 years. People have trouble conceiving.
Fertility is not our problem. Okay. So, but then she nearly dies during the childbirth because
she had placenta accreted where the placenta grows into the uterus. So as she's giving birth,
this emergency C-section, she's bleeding to death. And so they had to take her uterus. And they had to
ask me, because I was the oldest white man in the room, what to do with her female part.
And you put out your cigar. Yeah.
Because they said, sir, you're too close to the oxygen tank. And so a couple doors blew
off. So then
so she still had her
ovaries and so we actually had
all our kids via the rest of the four
via surrogacy. So 100%
our kids just somebody else has to carry them
which is much more expensive. Oh wow
yeah it sounds expensive yeah.
So anyway that's how they all came
about. Wow. Wow. Wow.
That's why there's five. That's so scary.
Yep it sounds scary. It was
it was very scary.
The day that we pulled eggs
from her ovaries and come
from my cock medical, medical.
All right, I'll cross off my, can't cancel him.
Tube tops.
Cock juice.
Yeah, yeah.
So we got 11 embryos.
We used our first three, got her daughter Margo,
and then they froze the eight into two groups of four.
And so a couple years later, my, to me, I'm like, well,
it wasn't necessarily the happiest marriage, but I'm from the Midwest.
I'm like, I'm not going anywhere.
So when the idea, like, let's try it again, I'm like, okay, whatever.
I thought, you know, probably won't work.
And that's when we got the twins.
Wow.
So it worked.
Now I've been for life.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And so we had one group of four embryos left, and then she really wanted to try that.
So I said, okay, and then boom.
Wow.
So I had my last child at 49, almost 50.
Wow.
Whoa.
Yeah, trust me.
Trust me.
I do trust you.
Yeah.
I mean, when you said, whoa.
You expressed everything that was going on.
and say, uh, huh, huh, huh, ah, uh, okay.
Yeah. No, but you're right. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot. That's a lot. It's a lot, but I, I love it.
I love my kids. Yeah, it's worth it. Yeah, I believe it's worth it. Someone asked me once,
like, your divorce or your kids talk to you, like, talk to me. Yeah. They're mine.
My daughters want me to live 40 more years. Yeah. I think you might have the opportunity with
AI. Well, I told you I couldn't sleep last night because I was looking at the phone right before I
went to bed.
Yeah.
And then it's,
I'm doom scrolling.
Of course,
you're not supposed to do that.
And then my youngest
plays Roblox,
and then I shouldn't even
say that on the air.
Yeah.
And that thing is a disaster.
You've heard of all the...
Yeah, there's pedophiles
and Robloor.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
And they make them live stream
from really horrible stuff.
Mostly pedophiles on Roblox now.
Okay.
No kids left.
I didn't even know what Roblocks is.
Explain to me Roadblocks right now.
Right now, explain to me roadblocks.
It's a game universe.
Good.
You do?
Yeah.
What is it?
When I was younger, I played Robox a lot.
It's basically just like, almost like a Minecraft-esque spinoff
where you can play a bunch of different games in this emulator.
It's almost like a mod for like a million other games.
You can play Roblox Call of Duty or like Roblox, like, Tornado simulator,
where you go in and you're in this tornado thing or Roblox come over to my house and hang out.
And you go, oh, okay, I'll play this one.
But you create like a character or something?
Yeah, you have like a little Roblox guy.
A guy.
Oh, like that an avatar?
Yeah.
It's an avatar, and you can go, you can play like, yeah, like this is like, you know, riding your bike around in a neighborhood or whatever.
It's interesting because the graphics are awful.
Yeah.
Honestly, it kind of gives it.
It's charm, though.
It's all about money.
They make so much money.
Look at that money.
Because you've got to buy Robux.
Yeah, Robux.
And where do you play it on your computer or could you play it on Xbox or?
They might have added it to Xbox, but it's for the computer.
I want to play it so bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's fun.
Robox is fun.
I want to dominate it.
Throw money at it.
I'm going to throw money at it.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
And so your son plays this?
My daughter.
Oh, daughter,
I think the other one was my two.
She's the youngest, so she got a new.
But her account's private.
Because it wasn't until years later that I heard all this,
these horror stories.
She was, Dad, I've been playing it for six years.
Wow.
But, Dad, I love him.
Yeah.
You hear these horror stories where...
I absolutely...
Give me a horror story.
Like, what could happen?
What's his name?
Sean Ryan has this.
has this one guy on all the time
who's super bright and eloquent.
I love Sean Ryan.
And the guy who's on who's a name I don't know,
you know what I'm talking about, the one guy that...
He's like a super hacker.
He knows everything that's going on with technology.
And he talks often about Roblox
and what happens there.
And once there was a dad,
was a daughter who was being threatened
by the Roblox pirates
and telling you,
because she had lifted her shirt or something,
and they were telling her to keep doing it
or something like that, the dad walks in,
they tell him something,
I forget what it was, but he then leaves
and lets her continue.
Oh my God.
It's, wow.
A lot of it's like blackmail and stuff like that.
Like getting, you know.
They get you do one little thing, curse.
Curse for me.
Like, curse or flash someone or, yeah.
I'm sure it's smaller at first.
That's so smart, David, is to get them to curse first.
Start building up with the repertoire.
I'll tell your parents if you don't, yeah.
Yeah, and then it's like,
A lot of it is blackmail.
It's very intense.
So when I was like first, you know, 12 or like whenever you start catfishing old men online.
Right.
Okay.
You do this too.
I thought I recognized the voice.
I closed my eyes.
We're saying we actually met in Canada first.
You did.
Tell me about that encounter.
Okay, but real quick.
Finish your roadblocks.
So I didn't do Roblox.
We were like MSN Messenger.
And I forget there was a number.
Another one that was also, like you made a little avatar.
It was like real world or something like that.
I forget what that one was called.
But it was so much fun to be a 12 year old girl
and talking to old men online.
Really?
Yes.
Why is it fun?
It's fun because especially at that time,
nobody knew what we were using the internet for.
Is Chris Hansen with you?
Like, what's going on there?
That was the time that all that stuff was happening.
It's because it was the perfect culmination
of like the adults didn't know what we had access to
on the internet.
We were kind of creating the early,
shady corners of the internet.
We and old men.
We had this exact, we had this incredible
relationship.
All my friends, it was like a big part
of internet use at the time.
For all of us, it wasn't just me.
Wait, you did Roblox. You must be younger than me.
Well, there are, yes. And there are those moments where you do
something crazy on the internet. And I just remember the feeling of
like waking up the next morning, like going to school the next day
and just the dread of like what is going on my computer right now.
You're just like, I'm dealing with like the crazy.
Zia shit of like
And also like did I close it?
Yeah you do something you're playing a game
and a guy just like sends you your adj your home
address.
Yeah.
Wow.
You're like, okay, hold on.
Hold on.
Log off.
Go to school and you're just sitting there silently like what is a
paranoid?
Wow.
My parents being murdered.
This is not what God intended.
I don't think.
No, this is terrible.
This is terrible.
It's killing us.
I just saw.
I think they're going to come out of the flip foot again.
I can't wait because I butt down
everybody.
all the time. If I touch this damn thing, someone's getting it.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, give me your number.
Just add you on Roblox.
Yeah, but I just put it down. I forget to shut it off.
You gotta shut it off.
Well, yeah.
How often is your flashlight turning on?
Oh, no, not that often.
Not that often, okay.
That's more of a mom thing.
That's more of a mom.
I have to really try to get it on.
My mom's flashlight is always on.
Her phone's hot to the touch.
Flashlights on every app is open.
Brightness at maximum.
Yes.
Yeah, my mom's
And then she's like, why is it slow?
Yeah.
My mom's voicemail is,
Hadda?
Who here?
That's like she's crafting a well.
It's as if she was calling somebody.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's her, yeah, but she doesn't know anything.
But I use that a lot, the big flashlight.
Oh, you do?
Oh, at night?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, it's pitch black in my room.
I just bought flashlights.
What did?
You did?
Yeah, I mean, there was a four packet somewhere.
That's an old art.
It's a handheld flashlight.
That is going to go away.
I put them in one of the kids' room.
Like, what's that?
Yeah.
So now what I do is I hold the light up above their head
and say, license and registration.
That's a funny name.
For the old man.
How did you guys meet?
You guys met in Canada?
Oh, yes.
Okay, so when did we meet in Canada?
Because I remember as meeting...
2018.
This actually was quite fun.
So it was right after I moved to America,
I got booked on the Great American Comedy Festival.
And you were like the big headliner of that.
Do you remember it was in Nebraska?
Oh, oh, oh, in that, yes, okay, in that one hall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so it was like the Johnny Carson festival.
Well, Johnny Carson grew up in Nebraska.
Yeah, it was Johnny Carson's hometown.
And it was such a fun festival and the shows were so good.
But the thing was they kept being like, okay, and then on this day in the morning,
we're going to go see Johnny Carson's childhood home.
Did you go to that, too?
Okay, so they bring us there, and we're all so excited.
We're all jazz.
The whole comedy festival is like, it's Johnny Carson's childhood home.
We're like, whoa.
And so we get there, and it's like fully renovated.
Oh, my God.
It's like fully like fresh drywall and stuff like that.
And we're walking around and they're like, and then this is where Johnny slept, we think.
And now it's a closet.
But.
And then we're like, okay.
And so, and it's like, obviously, of course you would do that.
Like at some point, it's like something to update it.
But it was, they had just really, and I don't know why I saw.
so much was picturing like Anne Frank's closet.
I thought it was going to be like preserved.
And so they did in the basement have one,
like the staircase, I think, was preserved
and everyone could touch it. And it was very fun.
I remember just being so shocked when we drove up
and it was just like a fully like,
finished house, yeah.
Wow. But at 2018, I was up in Canada
shooting The Headhunter is Calling
with, what's his name for 300?
Gerard Butler. Yeah, love Jerry.
Nice guy.
Willem DeFoe, I was so excited.
Wow.
And he was so much fun and I loved him.
But anyway, I got cut from the movie.
You all right.
Did you really get cut from the whole movie?
This script had two storylines.
One about this daughter dying of cancer, and what about this guy who's a headhunter?
And it's just amazing language, the guy that wrote it.
What's his name there?
The great writer.
Mark Williams?
Bill.
Bill.
Bill, Bill Dubuque.
Yeah.
Bill DeBuque from St. Louis, Missouri.
Anyway, the language was so good.
It was so much fun.
And so I was in the office portion of the movie
because where we worked as a headhunter,
but they decided to put all the energy
toward his little girl dying of cancer,
which is supposed to make this choice of,
do I want to work my ass off
or do I want to spend time with my daughter?
So it just didn't work.
It was the first time.
A tail is oldest time.
Oh, good.
God, I got my first time director.
Whose daughter is starving outside right now.
Do I want to go to work?
I don't think he knew how to finesse the storylines together.
I don't think he never directed before.
And it was pretty honest.
Now, did you get a call like Larry on this one?
Yes.
Okay.
I was on a, I went to play and go do a really terrible movie in Pennsylvania.
And I thought he was kidding.
Who called you?
The director.
Oh, himself.
Yes.
And you thought it was.
kidding. Yeah, I said, no, you're kidding. And you got, it was a heartbreaking? No, it's
nothing you do. The movie didn't play anyway. It just didn't work. It didn't work. Yeah. So, but I got
to work with Gerard and willing to follow it. Yeah, those are the experience you take away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. More importantly, I met Suffage. So I would, I would, I, I'd been doing
stand-up for a couple years by then. Uh, I think, when I start, 2011, I think, I started
stand-up with, I had my fifth kid, because I said I should never be out of a job.
And with stand-up, you just always go work, right?
So, thank goodness I did.
Good.
Because that's all he got right now.
I mean, movies don't pay anything.
I'm going to do five movies this year.
Yeah.
And yeah. I've done so many independently small movies.
Right?
And there's no money.
There's no money.
You do on.
I had one that I was about to, remember, you know, about to do.
And the money was okay.
Yeah.
And then, like, I did hair.
Uh-huh.
You know, I went into wardrobe.
You know, did the whole thing
And then as it's leading up,
financing.
It went away.
It went away.
Same thing.
I've had that happen
two or three times, yeah.
Yeah, and it's gone,
and then you're like, and then it's like,
anyway, so continue?
No, no.
I'm not a great host.
Well, I wanted to ask.
I don't know what's going on.
As someone who very actively
gets booked, a very talented actor,
when you're auditioning,
because I auditioned all the time,
And then sometimes I'm like, whoa, I'm getting this.
I better turn my ringer on, better turn my flashlight on because I'm about to get this call.
And do you feel that way?
Do you feel that way and do you have one that you really, really thought you were going to get?
And then it didn't go your way.
Which one?
It was a movie.
It's a disaster movie.
And I'd prepared a lot for it.
Is it recent?
I want to guess it.
You want to guess it if you want to.
Okay.
It was not recent.
Twister.
No, no.
Okay.
The day after tomorrow.
It's a...
2011.
It's the end of days type movie.
And so...
Zombies?
Cusack.
I'll give you one.
So anyway, I go in
and I prepare for this audition
and I killed it.
And the director and the producer
and two casting directors
all four stood up and gave me a standing ovation.
Never, ever, ever happened.
Booked it.
And so I called my agent.
CAA at the time, I said, I got this.
He goes, they just offered it to Woody Harrelson.
Oh.
So now we know why they gave me that standing ovation.
Like, here's what you get.
Yeah.
I said 2011.
It's 2012.
I'm so sorry.
Not a movie.
I saw the prequel.
Yeah, yeah.
But so to answer your question, yes.
Yeah, and that's so, that's great.
It was this movie.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Didn't get it.
What do you know.
He's great.
He's great in it.
He plays the madman.
He plays the madman.
He's a man in the motorhome.
Yeah, he's a madman.
Do you not feel sour?
I would boycott this movie forever if that happens.
I think people dead on it.
I love it.
You did?
Yeah, yeah.
As disaster movies ago, it was very good.
I love a disaster movie.
Yeah, it makes no sense.
Like, the first 20 minutes, it's all CGI.
Nice.
Right?
I can't remember.
Okay.
I mean, that's how much, that's how
unimpressed it was.
So it wouldn't have made a difference.
I mean, it wouldn't have made a difference
in my career.
It would have been some more money
because there was a studio movie
and you could have met some cool people
and all that stuff.
But there's always more.
Do you have the other direction to you?
Did you have an audition that you felt like
went really bad and then you did get it?
I can't remember.
Yeah, I have empathy for your generation
of comics because, you know,
we grew up when you could get a big movie
and people would see it
and would get a theatrical release,
even comedies.
You know what I mean?
Right now you don't see comedy.
There aren't any.
There aren't any.
There aren't any.
They're not going to make any money in the box office.
Well,
because they only want the global money.
They want the global money.
The American box office would come through or Netflix,
but they only want the global dollars.
I know, but you're also competing against online comedy.
Right.
I mean, two puppies,
you mean, falling off a little bridge or whatever is as funny as.
That was a bad analogy.
You know what I mean?
But like, you know what I mean?
Well, what I heard one of the reasons that the comedies aren't doing as well,
is the loss of like DVDs
because a lot of comedies
would make a ton of their money
they would do okay in the box office
but would make a killing
I used to love buying comedy on DVD
yes it would like be like
oh Napoleon Dynamite
you know something you know whatever
it explodes on DVD
thanks for picking something I had
I was
I had so many DVD
I had like one of those big
it was like an album
I had that too I had that too
I had a porn one too
what oh yeah I had a porn one
oh yeah yeah
for porn DVDs do they have the like
old lady
Do they have the menu page?
That's the point.
I'm so curious.
What do you mean?
Other chapters?
Like you know Heather?
Sometimes they'll have like a funny like menu scene where you can like pick
through like director's commentary.
Yeah.
Sometimes you fall asleep on a sleepover and it's running and then it's like drilled in your brain forever.
Some one star you're like, oh, I didn't realize she had a British accent.
Yeah.
Oh, she's fancy.
That's so funny.
And so yeah, I loved DVDs and comedy movies on D.
That's such a good point.
That was like such a good avenue.
Ancillary profits gone.
Yes.
But so it's either, you know, Netflix or nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think...
Does Netflix release stuff to theaters or no?
No.
I mean, maybe I can't say no.
Emphatically, but that's not their typical route.
No, of course.
Yeah.
They try to do limited theater releases, I think,
because they still want to get some awards.
In order to get awards, you have to release for like 30 days in a theater.
Oh, okay.
Like a month or something, but that's not.
But the windows even closer.
Yeah, it's getting smaller and it's like...
Because you would think,
like everyone in the world has Netflix
so you would think that the global
I'm sure the deals are different for streamer
versus theatrical
but it's like you would think that if something is released on Netflix
it does have the capacity to be seen
by everybody in the same way
anyway I was going back to what I was
talking about earlier
two puppies
I'm sorry
I went on a tangent
I get the reference yeah yeah
not a bridge but you know they're just
you know falling down a hill or whatever
Yeah.
Is that better?
Who was it just fell down a hill again recently?
Jay Leno.
Oh, Jay Leno, yeah, yeah.
Rest in peace.
And he would always...
Oh, he's alive.
He's still alive.
He's alive.
Poor a little out for Jay.
But anyway...
I just saw him there.
Okay, well, then you're not dead then.
I know.
But that's what we met in Canada in 2018.
Just to wrap that one up.
Just to wrap that one.
Holy day.
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
Today is art.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, it's pure.
That's five kids.
That's five kids' brain.
You bring it back.
Yeah, you brought back.
The thing that you remembered was that we did the Great American Comedy Festival,
and I remember, oh, we met.
And I remember, oh, I, you know, we also did that small room.
Yes.
That night.
Yes.
And I tagged one of your jokes.
Yeah.
It wasn't too bad.
I probably still do it.
I don't remember.
I love a tag.
Some comics get really offended when other people give them out.
I love getting a tag.
No, no, no, after you were off stage.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, just like bring it back up.
It's a selfish way to get a laugh.
Like, well, that's got a laugh.
I'll take something for me too.
But I like to expand upon it, not just.
No way, I think it was the come rag joke.
Probably.
Because, well, I've been closing with that for, for like, since I've been in America.
And so it's one that I do think if someone goes up like right, right after me,
it's all kind of so graphic that you almost have to say something.
Was it something to do with your boyfriend?
Probably.
At the time?
I can't remember.
Probably.
You're married now.
I'm engaged.
Oh, good.
Congrats.
Congratulations.
We all wouldn't do that other room.
One at a time, please.
Anyway, yes, it was a fun time.
And I don't, have you seen the other kids that did the comedy festival?
Okay, so I didn't realize when I got there.
Oh.
Oh, wow, yeah.
Let me see if I've heard of any.
No.
No, there were.
Yeah, I remember.
Oh, yeah.
So there also was a guy that we met that was so nice and he was so funny, Adam Jenser.
And we got along really well and he was like so nice and so funny.
And then later we became friends on Facebook.
And I didn't realize he was like one of the big Gutfeld comics.
Like he's like one of the main guys that goes on Gutfeld.
And I remember being so like, whoa, this is America.
Because like in Canada, our most conservative politicians are left of Joe Biden.
And so like, and I was like, whoa, I met a guttphill.
Feld.
Wow, it's real.
And I mean, he's just, he's also just a comic.
Like, all comics are mostly all kind of in the same.
Yeah.
But I remember being very, like, shocked by that.
Yeah.
Bad choice.
Have you guys watched Gutfeld?
Yeah, I love it.
Oh, I hate it.
I hate it, too.
I'll put it on, I'll put it on.
If I'm, like, on the road and I'm in the hotel room and Gutfeld's on, I'll put it on just to be like, what are they doing?
Yeah, I hate it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's crazy.
Or the five, I don't like.
What's the five?
It's another thing.
But anyway, can we just go.
back there.
What's the five?
It's another show on Fox.
It's another show on Fox.
Where they think they're funny?
Yeah, yeah.
Why are you guys scared to the five?
What, what?
No, no, I'm not scared.
I'm not scared.
I'm not afraid of anything.
It's just, it's a different point of view.
It's a different point of view.
Your dad said if you watch the five.
I'm not doing the accent, but.
I kill you.
Yeah, yeah.
You watch five, I cute.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you're willing to do it.
The accent.
I love that.
He was doing the eyes earlier before you walked in there.
Yeah, yeah.
So what I was going to say,
because I didn't forget, you know,
I just have empathy for you guys in a little bit
because you don't have the same roadmaps
that we had, you know what I mean,
that was sort of set in stone.
You know what I mean, you do this, you do that, you do this,
and then, you know.
Maybe something else happens.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the excitement of like,
you're on hold for a series regular on a show
or you're going to test for this pilot every year,
you know what I mean?
And that excitement, you don't really have.
And I think that both of you are good examples
of two young.
people that would have gotten that every year.
That's very nice of you to say, but I do want to point out that I've actually been doing
stand-up since longer than you.
I started in 2009, and so I actually was a ape.
I could have had a lot.
Because you were...
That whole point.
I know, but I'll tell you what.
On her case, in her case, but he was in Canada for most of that time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I knew in America.
Yeah, and they're not, and Canada, I just have to say, in terms of,
the structure there is unfair.
Yeah, no, you can't.
It's unfair, I think.
No, it's so small. You guys get fucked.
It's just really small, and it's, everybody consumes American media,
and so there's not really, like, a push for Canadian-made stuff.
We don't have, like, a star system or anything.
There's right, yeah, right.
Although, if you're making a movie in Canada, there has to be a certain quota for Canadian actors.
Yeah.
A certain number, right?
Does you get in on that or no?
No.
No, I did not.
I mean, how do you guys?
I auditioned.
I auditioned a lot.
What's the path now for you guys?
do you think?
Well, first,
what's a goal?
Step one, I do tiger belly.
Step two.
In disaster movie.
Yeah, yeah.
2011.
It's definitely, I think, like,
post clips and podcast stuff,
like there really is like not a clear structure of,
you kind of have to do it yourself, I think.
Wow.
Yeah, I think that the thing is,
coming from Canada,
I feel like there's so many paths.
And it's like coming from Canada,
where it's so limited.
I do come here and I am like,
oh, there's a million operational.
There's a million different paths that you take if you don't get something that you were up for that you thought you were going to get
There's five other ways you could go to still get where you're trying to be like it's so different that I feel like it's just like electric and everyone I always talking about how like Hollywood's dead
But it's like compared to Canada especially right now. It's like it's the
Opportunities are endless. Well, you're paid regular now right? Yeah
Congratulations. Thank you. When did you get passed?
A couple months ago. That's amazing. How'd you feel when you got passed at the conference? I felt really good. I felt really good and I think that like
part of like kind of starting your career over when you come,
because I had already been doing stand-up for like 2009,
10, 12 years when I moved to America.
And so, yeah, I guess longer than that.
And so a lot of like professional Canadian comics
don't want to move to America because you have to restart.
You have to start over.
You have to do open mics.
You have to do the three-minute sets.
You have to do kind of all these things that like,
when you've established yourself so much in Canada,
it's kind of embarrassed.
It's kind of a hit to your ego.
But I'm down to do that.
Like, I don't care.
And so...
In the work, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And so, and you do move through it a lot.
lot faster than you did the first time.
Because you're good now.
Yeah.
But it is kind of hard on the ego, I think, for a lot of people.
And so it was like very, it was very gratifying because I did like show up and you have to
like hang out.
And there's like a lot of like steps to getting past at the comedy store that are different
than other comedy clubs.
Yeah.
And I think a lot of people like just would not be down to to do that.
It's tough.
But I don't mind.
I don't mind.
Like I, you know, I'm a part of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Dave, you're doing dates now.
Yeah.
Like last year did 50 weekends
Oh
Five kids
Wow
I know I know it's hard
I can imagine
Yeah
Yeah
Plus alimony
Yeah
My rule is two weekends a month
And that's it
You know
So are you playing theaters or clubs
Right now I'm doing a theater run
Okay good for you
So you this thing
Plus you've got this thing
Which is amazing
Right
So you're doing
50 dates last year
Yeah I don't know how I have this year
I'm gonna do
doing military tour a first time.
That's great.
Is that me?
That's you.
Okay.
So what's not up there is August 5
through 15, I'm going to
five places in Turkey and
the Middle East.
Because I'm going to pick up a gun and get at it.
Yeah.
What did I?
It was just saying.
You're going to solve all their troubles?
Yeah.
Do you...
I mean, kill babies.
Is this something that you like doing or no?
I'm grateful that it's there.
Yeah.
I remain in gratitude.
So not really an answer.
Yeah.
Wait a minute. First of all, wait a minute. You get to go do your thing. You make people laugh.
But I, you know, look, it's an opportunity. You get better every time you go up on stage, I believe.
I think if you're doing 50 weekends a year, you have to enjoy the road.
Oh, yeah, yeah. To me, I don't let it bother me. And plus, I'm honestly just grateful that it exists because, you know, you've got a guaranteed income.
Yeah. Are there rough shows for you ever? Like Friday night's second shows? I have our top hard time.
Those are nightmares.
That's everybody.
That's every.
There's not, yeah, that's a rule.
Yeah.
That's hardened.
So you just,
you know, you're just going to
push, push, push.
Yeah.
Like you're going to, you know,
the show.
Or quit, quit, quit.
You know, that's what I do.
This show.
Everybody's such comics that I'm sure it's like
when John Mullaney's selling out
the like 100,000 seat thing.
Like, he's, I'm,
does it for a few nights.
I'm sure he's like, oh, the Thursday show
was better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, I'm sure everybody has that.
Yeah.
But there's never been a Friday night second show
when that went well.
ever.
Sometimes they do.
Can I get the tape of that?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's nothing going to the real.
No, I've always, no, it's always like, oh, that was a, not that the audience didn't have a good time, but it was like, I could tell myself, I could feel that in my body like, I worked harder there.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, you have to.
Yeah.
They're tired.
They're now really tired.
It's the late show.
They've been drinking longer.
So the focus is.
gone and you're the headliner so there's been
one or two people going up already. So they've had
more drinks that they got there so you know, they're
focusing attention. You guys eat in between
early show? Do you eat between
early show and late show? So this is what I do. Yeah. What do you do?
I, when I do eat
it makes the late show worse. Oh really?
I think so. In between shows you eat. If I eat in between the shows
the late show is worse and I think that it's like, people always talk
about like oh hungry artists, whatever. I think it's not about
specifically like suffering and whatever.
I think it's like your brain is maybe a little bit sharper.
Here's my problem with that though.
So can I say my problem with that?
My problem with that is is that what happens is if you wait until after the second
show, your options of eating is lower.
Of course, of course.
Right?
So you have to factor that into the whole thing.
Of course I'm factoring that in.
But you're talking about Taco Bell and like,
or you'd have the kitchen make you something.
That's a true thing.
Yeah, you could have the worst steak in the world.
It's always chicken fingers.
Yeah, yeah.
Or jalapagia property.
Like, I don't want to eat that.
Yeah.
I know.
I don't wait at late.
No, it's so hard to get to be, like, healthy eating on the road.
Do you guys have, like, healthy?
Because Wendy's has a baked potato that I feel like nobody talks about.
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
You're the first person.
What do you mean is that health?
A baked potato?
Yeah, that's healthy.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
What's healthy to you?
Salad or something.
Oh.
Is it organic?
A chicken breast?
Yeah, yeah.
A chicken breast sandwich to you.
Broccoli?
Yeah.
Broccoli?
So what I do.
We'll make potatoes healthy.
Okay, I don't know.
What I do between shows?
She'll get her Canadian hackles right up.
Oh, they have it.
Yeah, let's see the macro.
Break down the macro.
Break down the macro.
I would love to see.
I would love to see.
They don't list it.
First of all, it's $3.
No, they do.
Go down.
Go down.
Go down.
Oh, 70, not bad.
Not bad.
You just only have potato.
Not a lot of sodium.
I'm not putting like sour cream.
Yeah.
It's just very.
It's very Irish.
Potatoes are good for you.
Yeah, that's true.
If they're not deep fried.
All right.
So what I would do was I would get three of those.
Oh, Jesus.
In an emergency situation.
I'm being real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would rather have that than Waffle House.
100%.
100%.
I know it's good, but it's going to kill you.
Yeah.
So this is what I, can I tell you what I do?
Please.
May I?
Please, I'd love to hear it.
So I do ninja technique.
Grab the, of course.
Rip it out.
Just listen to my technique, right?
What I try to do is this, is that I tell the manager,
I go,
just me, right, into the fanciest place you have around here.
I don't care how long it is.
As soon as I get off stage, we go into the car, right,
and get me to it like the best steakhouse in town or whatever, right?
And sometimes I try to drift away from my openers.
You have to, you have to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't have to pay for them either.
Right, right.
Yeah, because it's like I have to pay, you know what I mean?
It's like a lot of money.
And they're so trying to tail you.
You really have to shake.
I have to shake them off.
You're doing crazy turn.
Yeah.
But then sometimes they, everyone does come.
like on tour, you know what I mean?
And then all of a sudden,
I don't always look at it.
Because you guys come too, right?
And then sometimes what happens is you have friends of friends that show up.
Oh, boy.
Right.
And at the end of, then all of a sudden, like, oh, I'm Papa.
Right.
I'm Papa, and I have to pay for all of my siblings.
Now you're catering.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And all of a sudden the bill comes out, it's like, you know what I mean?
Over a thousand.
Yeah.
Right.
And then you're like, oh, well, I broke even this weekend.
Yeah, yeah, I broke even this weekend, right?
He doesn't pay his tax.
I remember, so I have a cousin who is four years younger than me.
She's very much a little sister to me.
We grew up together.
You know, we both moved to Vancouver at the same time.
Like, we're very close.
But because I'm older than her, I always would pay for lunches and dinners and stuff like that when we'd hang out.
I remember this one time I was really low on cash.
And we were at a sushi place.
And she was like, can I get an appetizer?
Oh.
And I remember just being like, yeah.
It's just absolutely bankrupt.
That's how you said.
I'm sure my card declined.
You don't realize how big of a question that was.
That was a big question.
You can't say no.
It's like if someone's saying,
can I get it,
you can't be like, no.
Yeah, you can.
Well, now I know.
And I have.
Yeah.
Like,
we're at a restaurant recently,
and I made an announcement
because of this guy, right?
He said no advertisement?
I always say it's not an announcement.
The Monks.
I go,
you can get anything on the menu
except for this specific thing.
That waggo.
Because if I don't say that,
he's going to order.
it.
And you just have expensive taste?
No, he just wants to take advantage.
Just VIP lifestyle.
More of a quantity.
I'm always really hesitant.
If I know someone's going to pay for my bill, I'm always, you never want to be the first
person or you got to wait to see what everyone else is ordering to like get a price
range.
I'm like, okay, this person, he's getting a drink so I can get a drink or blah, blah,
this person's ordering.
Are you just jumping straight out of the boat, waggoo?
It has before.
Yeah.
If it's a market price, are you getting a market price item?
That seems crazy.
You have before.
Oh, market price is crazy.
Yeah.
Oh, who is that?
Yeah, crab legs.
Yeah.
Imp.
MP, whatever.
I'll take the MP.
And I ask, what's the MP?
I always ask.
Oh, I see.
A couple of MVP's in the house.
Yeah.
So can we go back to the dates
so we can promote David.
Oh, thank you.
Absolutely.
So just Instagram or what's the other one's,
Facebook.
David Kekdon.
Wow.
I was already losing
My hair. I was probably 27.
Is that Second City Day?
Second City days?
With dull clothes?
Yeah, yeah.
Yep. I.O.
Oh, I-O.
Look at it at a chin.
Did you, did you, with losing the hair?
Did you kind of own it?
We're like, yeah, this is going to be my look.
I feel like guys now panic about losing.
Yeah, yeah.
No, when I got Saturday Live before you were bored.
Crazy.
Lauren Michaels, like, Dave, what are we going to do with your hair?
And they listed all these people that have plugs or hair pieces.
I'm like, and I was pretty much close to bald.
I'm way past this.
And I was like, oh my goodness.
Is he telling me to get a hairpiece?
Yeah.
Because I'm like, I can't.
My Chicago buddies will kill me.
Yeah.
My family will, like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
So that's a wig on my bald head.
But I thought Fidel's whole thing is they do wigs all the time.
Yeah.
But no, he was talking about me getting a wig as just for my regular life.
David, you're going to be on TV now.
So it's your choice.
Did you get along with Norm?
Oh, yeah, we loved you.
I love Norm.
He was very sweet.
I loved him.
He was very sweet.
He was very sweet man.
I'm playing his brother here, Gary McDonald.
That's so fun.
In this one, I used to do this character called Jokey, who always goes, no.
You know, people are, no, they're not funny, but they can't help it.
And they have to try to be funny.
They go, no.
Like, I wasn't really trying to make a joke.
And I've tried to make it work on stage so many times.
But you have to explain it.
I remember once being at the improv here in town, and I'd just written it that day, and I just written it that day.
and like half the audience was getting it, or maybe a quarter.
And someone literally said, what's going on?
What's going on?
Because some people were getting it.
The thing is, that's good.
I feel like that's what you want with some bits.
Like when you're doing your hour,
I do feel like a quarter of it should be that
where half of the room is like connecting with it
and half of the people are like, what's going on?
Then you realize, like, I need these words to get them to this griddle.
What?
What's going on now?
That means I haven't set the piece up for the people that are less, you know, capable of understanding.
I think write the joke as you intend it to be received, and if half the audience gets it, those are your core people.
Right.
Yeah.
Do you guys tell the audience you're about to do a new joke, or do you just do it?
Sometimes.
Or I'll say, here's a bit I haven't done forever, but you guys seem like you're down for it.
I'll say this is a rough one or something like that, sometimes.
Yeah.
I know what you mean where it's kind of annoying.
when they're like, oh, it's just new stuff,
and then you don't really, like, try.
But I think I will once in a while
if it's like a really touchy subject or something
because you're kind of playing with fire.
But you have to try it at some point.
And so it's, like, kind of cowardly, but I will do it.
I'm used to now, this is the first time in my life.
I've been doing it forever.
I'm really used to.
I did my new joke night at the belly room last night.
Oh.
And I had two in a row new ones that got,
not just nothing, but
it was as if
no one was in the room.
No, sometimes they look at you, like they don't
even know that a joke was attempted.
Yeah, that's what it was. They're waiting, they're waiting for
the joke to come home. Yeah, they thought it was a
setup, but I already done the punchline. No, it's so great.
That happens to me all the time where I do, and then it's like
they're not even like defiantly not laughing. They don't even know that
I want them to laugh with that part. Exactly, exactly.
That's what it was two of those. And one of them
was a pretty long setup.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And before, as I was, as a younger man,
it would have been like really devastating.
But this time, it's been like, I just have to do it.
Right.
Well, you have to try it.
Well, I did my special, right?
It comes out in November Hulu.
Check it out.
But it's like, um...
Hopefully not on one of my nights.
And I, um, you know, I'm starting over and I just have to do it.
You should tell your special on DVD.
Oh.
That's a good idea.
That's a good idea.
I wonder if you can do that.
And I'll take a really reasonable percent.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Two percent, maybe two percent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, David will be...
In August, I am going to do my military tour, and then we're up.
I can't even see it.
I'm so long.
August 20 to 22, he's going to be at the Royce Social Hall at the Tropicano Casino.
Wow.
And resort, Atlantic City, New Jersey.
Buy tickets there.
Playing a casino.
Yeah, he's also going to be...
Two nights.
Yeah.
That's big.
Then Looney Bin in Tulsa.
What do you got here?
I can't see.
August 28th to the 29th,
2026, the Looney Bin in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Uh-huh.
And then September 11th and 12th, he'd be there at the...
Just, I don't want to rattle them off.
Just go to his website.
Yes.
Yeah.
Website or Instagram.
And check it out.
Follow the logs.
Go watch our old friend David Kekner.
He was amazing today, and he's always amazing.
You're sweet.
And it was really fun working with you that, too.
It was fun.
That was really fun.
I was excited because we...
They never done before.
And so we started pretty much.
I played a China man.
What year did you?
I had a thick Chinese accent.
Do you know that right?
Huh?
Well, that's what I played.
I can't say that.
I mean, this is the podcast.
And so you do get to do one slur.
Yeah, yeah.
We're weaning off the slurs.
Yeah, but one is within reason.
What year did you do Mad TV?
I went, I was from 2000 to 2008.
Okay.
Oh, wow, nice eight year run.
Yeah, I did an eight year on.
Nice.
No taxes.
Remember.
Yeah.
Yeah, which is we, I or us, I paid it.
We're all good.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got SNL in 95, so I remember like all the people,
the sketch shows that were happening at that time and who's, you know.
You know, I have a feeling that you guys didn't like us.
I didn't, well, the thing is, it was the first night there was competition.
First time that's been competition.
It wasn't about like or not.
Yeah.
I think, to me, honestly, there's more opportunities for comedy.
Do you know, I almost got Mad TV that year in 95?
Wow.
Yeah, but then I was kind of like SNL,
I had a great audition for Mad TV,
and then Lauren got wind of it.
And so that helped my chance, I think.
But was there animosity?
Were they like, was it like a ratings battle?
Oh, no, they took away ratings from SNL.
Because then also Howard Stern had his late night show.
That's right. That's right.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Whoa, that's so juicy.
I never thought about that.
Yeah, so it's the first time
they'd been competition.
That was the 95 cast.
Wow.
Wow.
You would have been a part of that.
Yep.
Yeah.
Good cast.
Who would have been,
who wouldn't have made it?
Orlando Jones.
I think they could have added it one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He did 19,
I remember.
Okay, so, wow.
Amazing.
What featured, who was featured?
Craig Anton.
Oh, I love Anton.
One episode.
Yeah.
He's in the last.
Atlanta now or Savannah, so we're teaching.
Really? Yeah. I love Craig Nantown
a lot. He was so good. He's so
funny. What a great guy. Yeah.
We're talking about the old. Did you guys have a favorite
writer? On SNL?
Yeah, and Matt TV. Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah. On SNL. Isn't it a big part of it, like having a
writer that really, like, writes for you? Isn't that a big part of it?
Well, everyone's got the same thing. I'm like, you just got to get
something on. Yeah. And if you can get the thing across the finish line,
great. I mean, I would
typically get some, so you do the table read on
on Wednesday, and I would typically get eight sketches out of 20.
And Will would get 12 or 15.
To put Will and the thing, it's probably going to go.
Yeah.
But like Adam McKay, he and I started the same year,
we were in Second City together.
And then Norm Hiscock, Canadian,
who was the head writer for Kids in the Hall.
He and I got really close, and we wrote some stuff together too.
Yeah, my favorite writers are ones that I don't have resentment toward.
Yeah.
Like Colton Dunn, you know, Katie Dipple,
You know, we had some really good ones.
And they have a show now called
Widows Bay on Apple.
I watched it all.
I watched the whole thing too.
Yeah, it's an amazing show.
Frisha is one of my favorite people now.
It's a funny show.
It's a funny show, but it's kind of horror as well.
A bunch of comics in there, too.
A bunch of comics in there.
I think it's funnier than New York.
It's so funny.
The dialogue is so good.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, I think, a great show.
Yeah.
There's a lot of good shows out right now.
Yeah.
Let's move on.
Any other shows?
Any other shows you got to promote?
Yeah, any other things you want to promote?
Not that I know.
Just, I'm doing it st-D.
Did you have fun here?
Of course I did.
Yes.
Dude, I laughed so hard to that.
It was lovely to see you.
It was good to see you.
I'm glad that we were both so looking forward to working together, but we both got cut from the sketch together.
I know.
You know, here's the thing.
It's like the experience of being out there.
I remember sitting there and, you know, Larry David was to my right, right?
And he was going, I know I would do a bad impression.
It's like, how's things going?
You're doing well?
You know?
And just having a conversation.
conversation with him and just thinking to myself,
you know what, this is great.
Yeah. We're working. Yes.
And we're asked as a very,
very small cast.
Yes. There's only six episodes.
Yeah. And we were asked.
We were asked to do it. Yeah. And I mean, that's
one of those things you want. Yeah. And you're just going,
this is just a moment you should cherish.
Yep. I remember that, I've talked about this before, but
I remember the last sitcom I was on, right?
It got canceled. And I remember
it was splitting up together. And I remember
the last day
touching the furniture
on the set
and just like
looking at the back walls
and just going
because this could be my last one
because I could see the tide's turning
touching the furniture
and they're like hey don't touch that
it caught me out of this
I chimed in a little too much
I think
thinking about it now
all right good
good ending
give David
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