TigerBelly - Donnell Rawlings: “I Don’t Love You… I Respect You”
Episode Date: May 20, 2026Comedian Donnell Rawlings returns and immediately chooses violence. Bobby and Donnell spend time revisiting old wounds, arguing over friendship, reliving The Cabin chaos. We chat Burr replace...ment, comedy beginnings, Chappelle stories, shooting a special in Korea, military recruitment, and emotional warfare.Download the Klarna app today or visit www.Klarna.com to learn more.Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at www.shopify.com/TIGERBELLY See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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You're near a city.
I have a graphic novel out called Bobby Lee Deadweight.
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I have a one o'clock hard out.
It's going to be the shortest podcast in the history of podcasts.
I guess.
Young man.
How are you, sir?
Hello, young man.
No eye contact.
Yeah, I'm not going to talk to you.
All right.
Yeah, yeah.
Your energy, dude.
Sometimes it's, like, distant and far away, dude.
Well, first off, it's not sometimes.
It's always.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's all the time for me, too, now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, no, it's like, it's a weird thing you.
I have for you, and that's a horrible sentence to start with the thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, when I see you, I'm happy to see you,
probably for three seconds.
And then after that, I'm like, man, fuck Bobby.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can I, I, I'll be honest with you.
When I see you, can I be honest?
Can I man?
Yeah.
When I see you, it's like something that I never thought I would ever see.
Which is like, you know, like, you never think you're going to see the chupacabra or slender, or slender man.
Mythical, yeah, like a mythical thing, right?
Bobby, I wish nothing but the horrible things in your life.
And let me tell you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just can't wait.
Well, I'm being honest.
No, let me tell you.
I'm being honest, you were honest.
Yeah, yeah.
On a shikadha.
Shikada.
Sucka, damn it.
Yeah.
That's Mugachaji.
Oh, that's, okay.
Unless I don't use that word anyway.
Anyway, yeah.
Going blind?
The glasses?
No, this is just for looks.
Okay.
All right.
When I was walking up here and I walked through your drive rate, right?
I was like, I can't wait 30 years from now when you're so old that you can't make it up your driveway and then you have to move.
Oh, that's, that's fucking awful.
That's an awful thing to say to somebody.
You know what?
I can't wait for you to do?
No, I don't.
Yeah, yeah, when you go completely blind.
Oh, come on, buddy.
What do you mean?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Oh, I can't wait.
Did I want to have to look at your fucking face?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm one to embody Stevie Wonder right now.
I don't know.
Okay.
You know, but you know what I'm going to embody?
Bruce Lee.
I'm like water.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I change.
I flow.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I manipulate.
Manipulate.
No, not manipulate.
Masturbate.
Yes.
I masturbate.
A lot of water comes out.
A lot of water comes out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I masturbate, yeah.
And let me tell you something, right, for you to defend this.
She didn't defend.
You can't call it a creature.
I didn't say creature.
Creation.
Creation.
That's what I was going to say.
Creation of God.
This is a work of God.
It's a work of God, dude.
You are a classic.
Classic.
Yeah, you're a classic, whatever you are.
Damn, I can't tell you how bad I didn't want to do this podcast.
Yeah, I, you know what?
No, and it was like, I was like, so nobody.
No Rogan.
No Rogan.
I know.
No, no nothing.
No kill Tony.
I'm like, oh, shit, I'm here for Tiger Bell.
All right, when I saw your name on the list, I try to go out.
You didn't request me?
So you got a booker to just doze's names.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You never said, we want Donnell.
No.
It's like the NFL draft.
You know what?
NFL draft?
Yeah, I'm like 48th.
A lot of black acties.
All right, all right.
I'm drafted!
You're supposed to hug me.
Oh, oh.
Not yet, bitch.
Not yet, okay?
Not yet.
I need to say hi to my mother first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I saw you on the list and I was like,
oh.
I was excited to be here.
I like you.
I love you so much.
I don't want to do.
Salongham need a.
I love you so much.
I do love you so much.
I do love you.
so much. There is a thing that we
have, and I think that,
and we've talked about this before, I think that you think
I'm gay.
It's a thing that we have. Yeah, I think it's a thing that
we have that you secretly dark,
what are you nodding about?
Deep down inside, you think that I'm a gay
person and that...
No, I think that you have
the most, out of everybody in this room,
and I don't know if anybody isn't here gay, you have
the most potential to suck a dick, Bobby.
Oh, okay, and that's not a bad
thing. Potentials. What? That's not a
What?
That's not a baton.
I'm on a wrong pocket.
Joe Buttons, can you
save me right now?
That's a survival instinct.
Certain culture.
Yeah, you know.
Lord of the flies.
I don't know what you're talking about.
We're kids.
Lord of the flies.
They're on an island.
You know what I mean?
No.
You can't go back, sir.
Can I get your coconut?
No.
And they're like, no, it's my coconut.
And I go, whatever if I, right?
And I get half of the coconut.
There's nothing.
What do you think?
That's survival instinct.
It's Darwin.
It's Darwin.
It's Darwin.
What?
You cut that part out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a Diddy Party.
Keep that in.
That's cultural.
That's cultural.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You never went to that, right?
I never went to a ditty party.
And I get that question to ask a lot because I took a picture with Diddy some years ago on a yacht in St. Martin.
That's the perfect situation to get dittied.
Right, yacht, St. Martin.
Yeah, yeah.
And I didn't.
People like, did you ever have you ever went to a freakoff?
And I'm like, no, they's like, why not?
Because I never got the invite.
I probably would have went with certain rules.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nobody behind me.
Yeah.
I get Cassie, I get hurt, I get hurt.
But the whole bad boy part, I wouldn't have a lot.
Were you dressed white?
What was that for that party?
Yeah, yeah.
No, I was dressed in a, I was dressed.
Yeah, maybe I did.
I was lit on that boat.
Yeah.
Damn, I was setting myself up to get dittyed.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
I was late.
But it was a good time.
It was a family function.
It just gone viral.
Yeah.
It's not what you think, but that's it.
So no one behind you?
So he's just posted up against a wall?
Yeah.
That way I can have clear sight on what's going on the phone.
You know, I don't like the way this white person here is talking to you.
What?
Like an investigator.
All white people talk like that.
That's the first time.
Do you ever notice that when you talk to us?
Yeah, we'll talk to us.
You're not black.
Yeah, what is it?
I'm a part of it.
I'm a part of it.
You know, I'm a rooftop Korean.
You know what?
A rooftop Korean.
What does that mean?
Like you really don't identify?
In 92, during the riots, I was on the roof.
with the shotgun.
You were?
I don't believe you.
I know, but we're in the same era.
No, we're not.
In that time.
In the movie, if there was a movie about it,
No.
I wouldn't get a part?
No, you would get, you would.
Look, remember the riots, 92?
Do you remember the riots?
I'm a rooftop Korean.
Were they guarding a liquor store?
Yes.
Is that actually in Korea or no?
No, that was in Korea town.
I was stationed in Korea.
That Bobby, yeah.
Yeah, there, yeah.
All y'all look alike.
Is that really you?
No, that's not...
Are you...
Are you fucking...
No, I'm just saying it looks like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just also wanted to say that...
What was funny to me is when I went to Springfield or...
Yellow Springs.
Whatever.
Yellow Springs, Ohio, yeah.
Wherever you live.
Yeah.
And I was there and you said, come over.
I did not say fucking come over.
I'm a little fucking liar, man.
Come up.
I didn't say come over.
Yeah, yeah.
You said, come over, right?
That's not what I said.
You said, this is the exact quote, okay?
Come over.
I be cooking some fish or something.
I be cooking some fish.
Yeah, and I'm good at it.
I'm about cooking that fish.
I was going to put that fish for you, boss.
That's what I heard.
The catfish right with that's what I heard, right?
That's what I heard.
I told you.
That's not what I.
Stop.
Could you stop for a second?
I just woke up.
Okay.
All right.
I did.
I literally woke up 10 minutes.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm just trying to get my minds.
Right, right.
So what you said in Yellow Springs, okay, was come over.
I'm going to be cooking you some fish.
And so, and I was like.
I can't listen to this story without stopping it.
I know, that's not what you said.
It was late night.
You had a sad thing.
It was late night.
You looked like a Korean orphan, right?
You were starving.
Oh, you called me a Korean orphan?
I said you look like one.
Yes, I'm calling you a Korean orphan.
You said, you look, had to put you in.
Me, Oprah, Annie.
You said, no, this is what you said.
Oh, Donnell.
where can I get some good food in this town?
And it's a town, it's a sundown.
Fair question.
And I said the only place for good food is at my house.
I'll cook some food.
No, you didn't say food.
How do you keep saying fish?
I did say I was going to fry so fish.
But he wanted it raw, so he wasn't going to happen like that.
But the thing is, this is how diabolical, how much of an asshole you are.
I was being courteous because in that town, the food scene is horrible.
After 8 or 9 o'clock, there's no food to there.
In fact, we're talking yellow springs of the same thing.
place with Dave. It's so many nights when Davis called me, he had guests in town, D.
Could you whip some food up? And I wanted to be nice to you and I wanted to stand that
offer to you. And guess what? It didn't happen. What did you eat that night?
Taco Bell? Nothing. I ate nothing. Right. Yeah, ain't nothing. And guess what?
And guess what? Fried fish, motherfucker.
No, I'm a motherfucker. I guess what, dude.
Damn, motherfucker. A motherfucker. Guess what, dude? What? Right, right? You would think,
you would think that I would trust. I go, you should have said, Adish. I go
Pekapal, Mani Munga. Kintanao.
That said I'm hungry as shit.
Did you feed me?
Yeah, yeah.
All right, there you go.
Hungry, my little choke him.
Yeah, go ahead.
Can I ask a question?
Yeah.
Not as an investigator though.
Can I ask as a white person?
Yes, I would love to hear you ask a question
as a white woman.
As a white woman.
Specifically.
Not a person.
A white damsel in distress.
You know, I want you to ask me a question like a white woman.
Like I thought about it in high school,
but I never did what everybody else was doing.
That's the way I want the question.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
We're in here getting a white.
a white woman, Claela. Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're dating a white woman?
No, no, we're in Target.
I don't know what we were doing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'd like to ask in high school.
No, first off, be critical of her being late.
If I would have came in late, you were like, oh,
what were you getting fried chicken and watermelon?
You would have made you feel bad.
Bobby!
Bobby!
I would have said that.
Bobby, you would have been like this.
You left the watermelon in your car?
No.
You would have said that.
I would have said, you left your children in the car.
Right.
In your catalog.
or something like that.
Nothing like about watermelon or chicken.
No problem.
As a white woman.
Okay, yeah.
As a white woman...
Not you much?
He started it.
I'd like to know.
There's a debate, right?
Asian don't raisin and black don't crack.
Which do you think...
Asian don't raisin?
Have you heard this?
I heard black don't crack.
And that's true of that.
Black don't crack, but we die a lot quicker
than a lot of other people.
And while white people are cracking,
they'll live until like 80 and 90 years old.
Yeah.
You know, would you rather be cracking or fucking are, like, dying?
You were trying to rhyme something?
Yeah.
I was trying to rob there, but I could have been cracking.
I could have been anything from cracking.
No, I should be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Black people, we don't, well, I mean, we, we, we black don't crack, but, you know, we have other things that we deal with, like, heart disease, high blood pressure.
It's stress.
It's stress.
That's what oppression does.
And trying to create relationships with Asian comedians.
There's a lot of things to take the black comedians.
I see.
I see.
I see.
How many Asian comedians do you know?
Hi.
All of them.
Oh, you don't know all of them.
Uh-huh.
You don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I know they look like you.
Give me two names.
Tommy Tran.
He's a...
Is that a real guy?
Yeah, he's a military.
You know Don Tommy Tran?
Yeah.
What's the dude?
Fuck, goddamn.
I can't remember their names now.
Yeah, yeah.
But I know them all.
Yeah.
When I see him, I like, oh,
They're going to Chinese nigger right there.
I'm Korean.
All right, nigga, whatever.
That's it.
I do know him, but I can't take their name.
You're nice to them.
Yeah, they're cool with that too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so I think that, I think,
I don't know what the statistics are, but.
Michael Yo?
He's half black, though.
Well, he's a combo.
I halfway know.
You can't do combat.
You have way to know him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a funny show.
Yeah.
Would you be nice to me if I was half black?
Yes.
Like, because when we see each other at the comedy store,
I could see you either try to find the exit
or try to run away.
Find the exit.
The reason why, I would like to be excited when I see you.
But you can't just do that.
You can't just be like, what up, what up?
You got a hug.
You got to be like, oh, come here for the close one.
And that's, I'm homophobic, bro.
I'm a recovering.
I'm a recovering.
Yeah, I'm recovering.
Oh, you're recovering.
I'm going to a program.
Right, right.
Every morning and be like, hey, my name is.
Well, I'm European.
That's the closest to homophobic.
you're gonna get.
I know.
And it's acceptable.
I need, bonjour.
No, you, no, you always, it's just extra.
Yeah, yeah, I need that.
You can't just do like, watch this.
Yeah, yeah.
See, you can't just do anything like that.
You got to hug you.
I just did it.
It didn't have the time.
I used to see you fucking butt-ass naked
on a comedy stage.
I don't know how to brace the neck up
the fuck after the set.
I don't know how to do that.
What's up, man?
Put your dick away.
What do I say?
Yeah, yeah, I want to hug you,
but you got to put your dick away.
Yeah, I've never put my dick out.
You'll be.
I'll show like the cavernous of the sides of my.
Pubes.
Just pubes.
A little top pubes, a little cavernous size.
But that's a sexual thing.
Lenny Kravitz does it?
I'll just put it like this.
Why can't Lenny Kravitz?
Well, he's black.
And some communities, that's offensive.
Some communities that will have an issue with that.
I'm just trying to get you to be able to understand how you need to move around in the African-American community.
And you don't want to listen.
You don't want to listen.
And even while you're listening, it feels like you're not listening.
your face is not
attention to me. There's so
much racism going behind those
little-ass eyes right now
and then I'm trying to help you with it.
When I see you, Bobby, I know
you need therapy.
All right? And I'm here for that.
But I got to kick you off my couch sometime.
You don't listen. All the things we talk about.
We had an endearing moment when we did
Burke Kreisher's The Cabin Show, right?
It was a very, very, very serious
moment, whatever. And everything
that I tried to teach you then,
You just threw it out the window.
No, no, no, can I just say?
And I'm going to just stop you right there, my friend.
Okay?
What is it?
The first time we saw each other on that show,
me and Berth both got completely naked
and laid on the rug.
Now, I don't see any criticism.
Do you know how upset I was?
I don't see any criticism, right, to Berger.
You have a very hard time with communicating.
All right, listen to it.
We're talking.
You started yelling for no reason.
No, because I found that offensive.
That is true.
On my way up, all I could hear,
I told George, I was like,
Bobby's already yelling.
And I'm coming to here with a different energy.
I'm coming here with a totally different energy.
First of all, first off, I was on time.
You were early.
That is true.
I was just on time.
I was on early because I just want to diffuse
any type of stereotypes, right?
What do you mean?
All right, so what I'm saying to you are.
Yeah,
Bruce Leroy
This is you half black
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's, no, would you
Dude, I'm fat and some pop
Your hair is curly and straight.
Yeah, it's kind of cool.
It's horrible.
Yeah, it's horrible.
It's a horrible combo.
It's a horrible combo.
What would don't now look like half Asian?
Yeah, find that.
Let's just see who's more horrible.
All right, so.
I want to apologize, okay?
For what?
Well, I just want to say, yes, I have been screaming a lot.
But I was just trying to yell out the hypocrisy
of when that day at the cabin,
when Bert and I both got naked at the same time.
First off, you weren't supposed to be there.
You were a last-minute replacement.
They didn't pick you first, Bobby.
You do know that, right?
I'm never, okay.
Let me say this.
Oh, my God, dude.
Let's work on this.
Let's work on this.
No, no, no.
You're making me so mad that I want to quit right now, dude.
That's what, miss an accomplice.
Okay.
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Oh, yeah.
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Uh-huh.
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Oh, yeah.
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What do you think?
He looks way better, dude.
I mean, we were just in Texas.
I wish you were running the whole thing.
I was really hot.
But me without the jacket, but, dude, that's, how do you feel right now?
I feel like money, bro.
Yeah, you feel like money, right?
I feel like money.
I feel like I look good.
You look like 75 cents at least.
Better than the five cents.
Better than the five cents of where you started at, dude.
Thank you guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, for the next two podcasts, you're wearing that outfit.
This is exact one?
Yeah, man.
All right, for sure.
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What's an accomplished?
Okay.
Here's the thing.
You weren't supposed to be there, Bobby.
Right?
It was supposed to be Bill Burr.
Bill Bear was supposed to be there, right?
And I was excited about that
because it would have been like a reunion
since I worked with him on Chappelle's show
and we had some interesting things
that we can talk about.
Yeah.
All right, it's only the greatest show.
Where you look?
All right.
So I was excited about Bill Burr being on the show, right?
And I'm looking at the trailers
and everything.
I'm like this, oh, man, Bill Burr.
And then I saw it and it said Bobby Lee.
And that's when I was like,
this is going to be a fucked up day.
And just like I thought,
as soon as I go walk in the house,
the first thing you do is you get ass naked
on a bare skin rug.
With who?
With Bert Kreisher.
He was already naked.
So you're proud of yourself that you joined a man.
No, but when I'm saying,
there's no criticism.
Was that part of the scene?
Or were you guys...
No, they improv. This is the shit.
They just improv.
That's because improv.
Yeah, that's second city.
That's second city.
That's the second shit.
Brownling show.
That's ass.
And then it's,
Yes, anding.
Yes, anding.
Yes, As please as I was, to be working with you,
I still fucking got through it and I did it.
And then we had a moment at the table where we were talking about,
I don't know, it was fatherhood or something.
It was fatherhood.
Honestly, I will say, I know you wanted Bill there,
but of all the episodes, aside from Miss Pat,
I think it was my favorite episode.
Oh, thank you.
The wildest, but also the most profound,
especially when you guys got like real.
And this is why I don't like him.
Because you saw a moment.
Yeah.
You saw a moment with two men talking about the childhood.
Like, it was a teachable moment, right?
And with that said, you would think that moving forward,
that relationship would be tighter,
having more understanding, respect for each other,
and it didn't happen.
He's still an asshole.
Nothing's going to change him.
Oh, he is lovely.
I know exactly what you're going to.
I feel like family few.
Good answer, good answer.
What I'm talking about.
I love absorbing.
I love absorbing with him.
I think I can give good perspective on this from both sides.
I think what you're saying is historically true.
He has been, it is hard to communicate because he has like ADD.
It doesn't mean that he doesn't mean what he's saying.
It's just that the moment passes and then he moves on to the next thing.
But even when he moves on to the next thing, he comes back to the first thing as an asshole.
So I understand what you're talking about.
And that was a very good observation.
But how long are you going to be an asshole?
But can I say one more thing?
Listen, look, see the respect she gives me?
She raises her hand.
Listen, Bobby.
But I was late, so that's disrespectful.
Okay, all right.
But I will say that give him another chance
because he's now been in touch me for years.
No.
For years, and I do think he's really changed.
Is he naked?
I did his other punk-ass podcast.
Right?
It was on his birthday.
There was another moment where I tried to be endearing
and I tried to respect him.
And he doesn't give a fuck.
How long does the world have to give a fuck about Bobby Lee?
Okay.
Oh, my God.
What is your relationship outside of the podcast studio?
Do you guys text?
Are you checking in on each other?
Is there a real attempt for a friend?
He fucks white women.
No.
That guy right there, yes, yes, he does.
He works at CNN.
And he plays the instrument.
He plays guitar.
He's a Newcaster.
Yeah, anyway.
No, we do.
I try to.
Yeah.
Listen, I try.
Oh my God, you're lying!
I love this.
You're fucking lying.
I try to have moments with him.
I just want to say the white person is the most passive here at this table.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Until we go to court.
It's a whole different.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, oh, what you're saying, I know what you're saying right now.
I am.
I think what you're saying is, is that you, now that we finally have, you know what I mean,
equal footing, right?
You think that we're loud.
No.
Now that we have equal footing, minorities, right?
Now we're speaking our minds and you're saying,
well, I'm the quiet one.
Yeah?
Where were you during the crusades?
Where were you?
Where were you?
Anyway, you're making me so.
May I talk?
Good.
Okay, so, all right.
You know, I'm going to ask the comedy store
or any of these comedy environments
where I run into the sucker.
Sucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
I'm sorry.
An ER on that?
What?
No, no.
Anyway.
Okay.
Okay.
I suck up.
All right.
And videotape our interactions,
okay?
Because it's always excitement on my part, right?
And like I'm, you know, the Alpha Tiger, okay?
And you're like Wilderbees.
You run away.
You run away.
Yes, I do.
Yeah, yeah.
So what I'm saying is,
how does one develop a relationship
when the tiger can't have a coffee with the Wilderbeast?
Donnell, what do you really need from Bobby
and want from him to,
foster any, like, good feeling?
What poe have I?
I think he hides his real feelings and his real emotion.
Okay.
I love you.
You're 100% right.
I think that he wants to be a better person.
I love you.
I think that he wants to communicate with people.
But then we would see a side of him he doesn't want to express.
So that's where he has to always go out on these tantrums and all of these things.
Like, I try to have moments to him.
He's like, yo, one day he was like, man,
I would love to do sketches with you, right?
I was like, let's try to do it, right?
And then, but I don't want to do it.
It goes into that.
Where he was going to do his special,
he was like, I think I'm going to do this Netflix special.
I was like, oh, that's a good thing, man.
But then he says, he talks to itself.
He says, I want to do this Netflix, but fuck it, I don't want to do it.
What do I need it for?
I'm already selling out.
I'm like, maybe it's a vanity play.
Maybe that you want to align yourself
with people to have other specials.
And maybe it's time.
for people to see how great of a performer you are.
Whenever I try to have these serious conversations with him,
he turns into comedy because he's afraid.
He's a wounded child inside, right?
And I know he deals with some childhood trauma,
but at some point, you have to talk to somebody
and just listen to what they say.
He doesn't want to listen to what they say.
Even after we do this, he's gonna go upstairs,
he's gonna go in his bed, he's gonna cry,
he's gonna jerk off, he's gonna do another episode.
And that's what it is.
I'm trying to make him a different person.
He doesn't wanna do that.
Donnell, can I ask you?
Do you love Bobby?
This is what I, I won't say love.
This is what I will say.
I respect him a lot.
I respect his career.
I know how hard it is for a short Asian motherfucker
to make it in this business.
They don't give them too many opportunities.
After Bruce Lee, it was like,
we had enough of this shit, right?
I respect the fact that,
I'm just, you asked me the question.
I respect
This is what I'm saying
In this business
Some of us have opportunity
You need to stop laughing right now
Oh, uh-oh
Sorry
This is what I respect about
He's stressed me the fuck out, bro
Shut the fuck out
This is what I respect
He was a part of a brand of a show
That was super hot
Right? Mad TV
Sometimes we have opportunities where you'll be hot
For a year or two of the show
He had a nice run with that.
And then when it was over, he still was able,
that part of his career, it was over.
He still was doing his shit.
He still was fucking one of the top
comics working in the city.
And even with that, when all of this shit about podcast and everything,
he discovered this and found a lane for this
before a lot of other people.
You know what I mean?
I respect the fact the way he shifts gears, right?
I respect the fact that he's still in it.
I still respect the fact when I first move here,
like when I used to come and I used to see
all these names on the billboards, I used to ride.
down, are you gonna fucking pay attention to me?
You know, I'm listening.
Okay?
I know, I'm listening to you.
I'm absorbing everything you're,
no, no, I'm absorbing everything you're saying.
It's just there is a feeling of like, you know what I mean?
I would like to have to feel like to be in my sense.
I can't wait until I can talk.
I know, but here's Kat and I are interpreters here.
I understand that.
So what you're doing right now is watching me listening
but also being frustrated.
Yeah.
But I'm letting the guest, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
This motherfucker, you know what I mean?
It's downright,
motherfucker, right?
We're here first going to this country.
He went to he writes all that time.
I don't want to do that.
It's too easy.
When I first moved here,
I used to ride down
Sunset and Hollywood and everything,
and it was always the same names
that was on this list
that was performing.
You know, in the words,
it's always Bobby Lee?
Bobby Lee, I'm like,
how to fuck this motherfucker
is so much stay time?
And every night, this motherfucker would
to put in the work. I thought it was dope that he was still after the mad TV shit.
He's still the thing that I really care about. He gave a fuck about just being a fucking dope
stand-up and always going to work out shit. That's what it is. I try to talk to him. I don't want
to do it anymore. What I'm hearing, what I'm hearing is you respect the fuck out of him
and you seek a deeper friendship that his... At one point. At one point that he, and you thought
there was a friendship there that he actually wasn't able to give in earnest.
Right. Because he was naked all the time? That's part of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or that
because he was covering up his true feelings with... I would rather him cover his dick and his
ass up. I don't give a fuck about his feelings. That was me, but that was his thing.
Their consequence. I always, like, I always, you know, I've always, um, I always respected him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, put your glasses back on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have glasses. Yeah, I know. May I talk now? That was nice. That was
really nice. May I talk now? Yes. Okay. Okay, so number one, okay. I did do a special.
Hannah. And it's coming out in November. Because you were right. Do you see what you're doing right now?
You didn't let me talk. You didn't. We're doing Korean numbers. And as you can know it.
As you can know it, you know me? I could do the same, but I'm not going to. Okay.
One.
Two, three, four.
Three, dog, four.
You know, I could do the same thing.
But let me say something to you.
Is that funny?
I'm just curious.
No.
But go ahead.
Yeah, it wasn't funny.
You could do the same thing.
It wasn't funny.
You could do the same thing.
It wasn't funny.
And sometimes I, you know, I swing and I miss.
Right.
And that's the whole point of comedy.
I know.
But I looked at you.
Can I talk?
Because you keep talking.
Okay, go ahead.
And that's your thing.
All right.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
You keep going.
All right, continue.
So let me say what I need to say.
Say it.
Okay.
And let's talk about the truth.
Continue.
All right.
So what you,
when you...
Keep talking.
When you have something to say.
When you talk to me about the comedy special,
it really sunk in.
Because he was a bitch.
And he was nervous.
I saw the bitch of your eyes.
Interesting.
You see how I was a bitch.
He was a bitch.
I'm trying to be sincere.
I'm trying to coach you.
You can do it.
Bobby.
The world needs this.
You won't let me get this.
I think,
I think Donnell,
you're not letting him.
him like even give him a nitch I'm tired of your shit
I don't want to hear that I listen to your other shit
bitch I don't want to hear that go make a sandwich so weird
isn't a sandwich you can make so weird
I'm so sorry I didn't mean that
I took an opportunity for a joke I'm so sorry
I love you no no no no right thank you
okay what may I speak my mind
but the bitch was in your eye I couldn't really tell
The white woman has raised her hand
Sorry Bobby yes do you love Donnell
I do deeply
number one
and this is the truth and honest truth
okay is I
out of all the comics in the world
there's probably three people
that I would hate to follow
at the comedy store
yeah all right
he's one of them
I would not that I would
bomb but I think that it wouldn't be
it would be me working at a hundred percent level
and trying to keep the audience attention
that's how funny this guy yeah
can I say something this is what I never understood about
I'm not done
Okay.
All right.
I'm not fucking done it.
All right.
Continue.
I speak at my own pace.
Speak your peace.
Okay.
I'm emboddering my E.J.
Right.
So what I'm going to say.
Wait a minute.
Slow down.
All right.
Number one.
Nobody gets it.
I remember.
E.J. Johnson?
Okay.
Go ahead.
I remember when you talked about the special.
I just did one for Hulu.
It's coming out in November, right?
And I took your words of advice.
Which were?
Which is like you should do a motherfucking special.
Right.
I didn't say motherfucking special.
I didn't say a motherfucker special.
Whatever you said.
Yeah.
I think he said you were a bitch.
No, I did.
I saw the bitch in your eyes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bitch in your eyes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw the bitch in your eyes.
Yeah, but that's not a verbal thing.
You were saying it with your own eyes.
And there's the reason why I said you should do one.
I don't say that about everybody.
I'm not done yet.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Let me finish, right?
So I did.
See how am I becoming a...
So I did it.
Number two, I think that Donnell Rawlings is almost unfollowable.
I mean, have you seen them?
Because she works at the comedy, so she's a door person.
Okay.
And they watch you.
Your gun bit, the...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're unfollowable.
That is a good one.
That's a good one.
That's a light up.
Yeah, and number three, I think that you're a generous person and you're a kind person.
And you're highly respected in the business.
Now, that being said, okay?
That being said, I've observed you communicate with other people in the,
comedy world, right? But when it comes
to me, and I got what you're saying, that
there's things that freak you out about me,
okay? One of the reason why I'd like to talk to you because nobody
else wants to. Okay, but I'm
to address the bill burthing real quick.
What is the bill birthing? Oh, of the
cabin. Oh, well, you were the third person
they wanted, but they really wanted a bill and they couldn't get them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is
a true thing. Okay. Okay. Because
I remember getting the call that
night, right? Because we were together
back then. Yeah, and you were like, oh, I got to go
drive to Big Bear suddenly. Suddenly.
you had to do because they couldn't get anybody.
So I was like third choice, all right?
Fourth, at the maybe four.
Maybe four.
And I'll be honest with you.
Yeah, that hurt my feelings.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who wants to be picked forth?
A lot of people want to be picked forth
because then when you get the game, what do you do?
And after when I look at it, I think they're talking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that is true.
And I get picked a lot third or fourth.
Sometimes that's the best play.
No, that's not that, it's not a play at all.
all. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just in line. But the best thing about is that...
Yeah, yeah. You were in the school yard? Yeah. Yeah, I want Jimmy Jones on my team. And you're the last
guy. And then that's what happens. And then some guy goes, alright, that's what it is.
All right. Yeah, so, I'm not done. So I show up... We're going to have some restrictions on how
long you can talk. You talked so long. Okay, go ahead. All right. All right. It's so long.
All right. I need to defend myself. So I show up, right?
And I know that I'm fourth picked because Billy couldn't make it, right?
And I saw your name on it.
I'm, oh, my God, this is going to be great because Donnell Rawlings.
What a high-level person, right?
And as soon as he saw me, you could tell that there's disappointment in his eyes.
It was.
Yeah, I know.
It was.
I know.
There was disappointment in your eyes.
No, because what I, like, the reason why, because not that I was prepared for Bill Burr,
but me and Bill Burr have some history from years ago did I thought to this platform be
a good place to like, you know, kind of talk about it.
So I wasn't prepared for a motherfucker that likes to be neck and a bare skin rug.
Yeah, yeah.
But at the same time, I already know, like, when you come into a scene and whatever, it's
going to be electric, as much as it was going to be a different show, I knew you were
going to come in and pop the show.
And just to add to what you're saying about being picked forth, I know that for your ego
it might not feel good, but at the end of the day, did you get in the game?
You know, and if you get in the game, then it doesn't, nobody knows what round you
were drafted or anything.
All they know is like the performance.
And I know as much as you're an asshole, when they say go, I understand why they picked you for mad TV.
When a motherfucker says go in action, you're going to go.
I go.
And then when they say cut, you're going to be fucking an asshole again.
No, no, no, no.
No, you're going to do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, so I think we're going to come to a census here.
This feels nice to communicate.
It feels nice communicating with you.
Yeah, okay.
But let me tell you something.
We've had these conversations before.
Just because you've had these conversations before.
Just because we've had these conversations before.
Escalated again.
Yeah, we've had these conversations.
Because he's used his hands to talk to me.
No, no, no, no.
You don't have to do this shit.
We've got to hear you.
Bobby, stop with this.
Stop, stop.
I know, but we've had these conversations before.
I'll do shit.
We've had these conversations before.
Black lives matter, motherfucker.
We've had these conversations before.
It doesn't change anything, right?
When I see him the next time, he's going to run away, dude.
Right, 1970s Olympic medal.
What's going on?
You're doing science.
I'm doing science,
this.
This is not a,
and Koreans do this.
North Koreans go.
North Koreans do do that.
Yeah, Kim Jong-un.
Kim Jong-un.
Kim Jong-un is like an asshole.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you know he, like,
I don't know if you know,
like this motherfucker.
He just made this law, right?
That it's,
didn't go see him?
No, I didn't go see.
Oh, that was,
oh, yeah, that was.
He made a law.
It's against it.
That is right now.
It's against the law.
In North Korea,
it's against a law
to commit suicide.
And if you try to kill yourself and you don't kill yourself,
he's gonna fucking kill you.
That's crazy.
But how about if you do kill yourself, then what happens?
You just broke to you a law, you're a lawbreaker and you're dead.
Yeah, yeah.
So if you do, you gotta be efficient.
Yeah.
If you don't have chance, you don't have time to reconsider your thoughts.
Yeah.
Oh, that was a great segment of North Korean facts.
Give him around a vlog.
Thanks for the update.
Jump off a bridge and you'd be like, no, I want to think about it, then pop.
Pop, pop.
Yeah.
Why?
Fire out.
I heard in factory, did I say this already?
In factories in North Korea, they make meth in these factories and then they compensate
the workers with math.
So they're on math, making math, and sending it to the Philippines.
Yes, for the Philippines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you for shoneing my country.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's exactly where it comes from.
You Filipino?
Mm-hmm.
Born and rain.
You're the tallest?
You mixed?
Yeah, mixed.
My sister is six feet tall.
Yeah, that's weird.
Yeah, yeah.
Nobody, I know this is so wrong, but by your height, nobody.
would even think about that you were Filipino.
But you know, I think my-
Did I say that right? I wasn't trying to.
Yeah, there are a lot of shorter Filipinos,
but like lately they've been getting taller and taller,
similar to like Koreans, right?
My family, they're all really tall.
All the men are like over six feet.
Okay.
Even like pure Filipino.
If you didn't know that she was Filipino,
what would you think she is?
I don't know, I would say, yeah.
I don't know, I might say some type of Latino mix or something.
That's usually what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's go back to the Christro show.
Thanks for the break.
You're the peaceful.
You're the only one that can have a moment, Bobby?
What?
You're the only one to have a moment?
That's how I was doing.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
What I was doing, I was steering the ship.
Continue.
Yeah, yeah.
Tic is on this ship?
Titanic style.
Oh, you think we're going to hit a high.
Yeah.
You're steering his ship.
Okay.
What I want to, what?
I just hit his.
It's fine.
Sorry.
It's fine.
Yeah.
So what I was going to.
was gonna just get mad and go crazy.
She was like, oh, so sorry, you got it, please.
I never meant to do your mic like that.
Yeah, yeah.
So let's just go back to the Brookwright Show.
I thought that being what it was,
I think that everything happens for a reason.
Yeah.
I do really believe that.
You meet people at the right places,
at the right times, you know what I mean?
And I think that I was supposed to be on that show
because I thought that episode was pure magic.
It was very good.
Yeah, it was very good.
But I will say this, the thing about that, as much as it was chaos and everything,
when we were sitting at a table, I guess we were, Bert was making food or whatever,
I thought that that was a, that's what I really appreciated about the show most, more than anything.
We had the moments of being funny, whatever, but at the same time, as comedians, we are human.
We have emotions, but people, it's hardly, it's not too often that you get to see that.
And that was a good time for that.
Okay, so I just, it's a night.
So I want to say this to you, all right?
I hope this episode, you know, causes peace.
You know what I mean?
And, um...
Causes peace is the word.
I never heard cause peace.
I hope it really causes peace.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry, sorry.
I'm nervous, all right?
So, because when I get, when I get, you know,
intimate and sentimental, I get nervous, all right?
So, can I lock eyes with you?
I mean, that's where it begins.
No.
The soul's seeing each other's soul.
I don't want that relationship.
See, that...
But he already told you he's a recovering homophobic.
I'm not gay.
I'm not gay!
But it's a soul eyes...
Gay-e.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gay-e, like gay-adjacent kind of?
Yeah.
I'm gay-like.
Ish.
Gay-ish.
If I may say.
Blackish, grownish, and gayish.
I do something in Yellow Spring.
It's called Donnell Land.
That's a Memorial Day weekend, right?
It's four days of family activities that we do.
Like, I have one night.
It's a family night.
We party, like, the entire family parties.
Saturday, we do a celebrity kickball game.
We have a comedy show.
Can I come?
Sunday.
Yeah, you can come.
Sunday, we do Sunday, fun day.
That's just the night of old school, like, three-legged race.
We have, like, a flag football game.
It's dope.
And then Monday we do a river run where we take people on like a five mile of kayak canoeing trip.
That sounds so fun.
And we ended with like a barbecue and we ended with the podcast.
That's my son.
Can I say at your house or?
Yeah.
What I want to say to you is that I think you're lovely, like, man.
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think that you're very talented, you know what I mean?
and we may not ever get to the point
where we're like
so we're not close, right?
But the fact that we talk about it.
But we talk about it, but I do,
you know what I mean, respect you.
You said would I do a sketch?
Would you be, would you have any excitement
about doing any other sketch or stuff?
Yeah, I would love to do a sketch with you.
I think a lot of it is like you don't have maybe follow through.
Who?
Is what you are, what I'm hearing.
I can't, your glasses.
Because he wants to do sketches with you.
Yeah.
Like, this motherfucker will call me.
It's not a motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You only call him a motherfucker.
This shitbacks, dogs.
This shit back's talking.
Call me at midnight, right?
Tomorrow morning, where you be at?
At six in the morning, right?
And I'm like, I have shit in you already.
I would be like, rise and shine.
Where you be at, wake up, dog.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's always the most inconvenient time
when he texts me to do a sketch.
But I would think that, like,
when I think about that, I think about it.
Like, schedule of,
two weeks before putting in the schedule.
I thought that I did be a funny idea
for some kind of way we played brothers.
A great movie.
Yeah, we play brothers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm your half black Asian brothers.
Yeah, that, yeah.
I've always, a lot of connection.
I really want to, um...
I always want to do a movie called...
Oh.
I always wanted to do a movie called...
I've always wanted to do a movie called War Baby.
Why are you...
Think of War Babies.
You and our...
Why you...
No.
Okay.
You keep talking...
And then you scream on me, bro?
I didn't scream.
Mawucker, you screamed on me.
That makes you feel better?
Motherfucker.
You just, like, I was chair in a moment,
and you just cut it off again.
It's because I had a...
And I was talking about some creative shit that would...
I was going to say some creative.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, finish yours, and I'll pitch an idea.
What about I pitch an idea?
Don't know.
Let me try
Let me try
I heard war babies
I heard brothers
How about
You guys are brothers
But he's the favorite son
Your mom is Asian though
And the whole story
Is you trying to
Earn her love
Right
But the backdrop
The mother
The mother
Or his mother
Could have a kid
That they didn't grow up together
Then there's a guy
older, they knew as another sibling out there
and some kind of way we got reconnected.
Or...
I'm an anchor baby. I'm an anchor. Okay, or...
Yeah, I like that. Can I say an or?
May I say an o'er? Or
my Korean mother
thought she couldn't have babies.
So they adopted a black baby,
a son. Or a year later...
I'm not done with my pitch. I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a year later
she just mysteriously gets pregnant
with me.
And then...
Right? And then, and then. I'm not doing
Or.
And then, but you become
the golden boy and are preferred.
Over the me.
And you become some like deadbeat
to just loser fuck. Yes, loser fuck.
And you don't have a relationship.
You went to college, you went to Princeton.
You became a lawyer.
Like someone like James Baldwin.
Oh.
One of my favorite black historical figures, by the way.
I wonder why.
Because he's gayed.
Oh shit.
I need.
That's a crazy.
crazy one to have.
No, shit.
You love James Baldwin.
No, no, no.
I like James Baldwin with what he says.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He went to Paris.
You know what he's an intellectual.
You know what I mean?
I like it.
Or like a Korean woman had a baby.
Yes.
By a military guy.
Yeah.
Cool.
And the baby was raised in an orphan.
Okay, we do it.
Okay, let me too.
I don't know where you're doing.
No, this is what I...
Yeah, yeah.
I'm in exactly how long.
This is part of a true story.
Can we do this?
Can we do this?
Shut the fuck up.
That sounds like a mom.
No, no reason why, because when I was stationed, I was in the Air Force, I was stationed in Korea.
It was an unfortunate...
Bobby.
That's not, did you do it straight up like this too?
Yeah, your arm's not long enough.
But that was an issue.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for acknowledging that.
There was, that was a situation where some of the military guys,
they would get women pregnant over there.
And then they, because when I was stationed in Korea, it was called a remote tour.
That means you only did it for a year.
So those guys I did, they get a woman pregnant or whatever, eight months later,
they're out of there.
And then they had these kids that weren't accepted by the community because they was
orphaned and I don't know because they was mixed black or white, whatever.
In fact, there was an orphanage that had those type of kids.
The first taste I had with like making somebody laugh or being funny was I would dress up as a clown and go entertain those orphan kids that didn't have parents.
Is there something about that story?
It might be a little too serious, but it's something about that story.
No, that's so sweet.
But you would dress up as a clown?
I was trusting your face this whole episode.
I was dressing up as an entertainer.
No, but I would.
I would dress up a clown.
and I would just have fun, do little balloons,
shit, and that was just something to do.
I used to teach, I noticed nobody's going to ever believe this,
but I was so fascinated with Korean culture when I was over there, right?
Like, I really wanted to learn the language, be a part of the culture.
I used to teach, well, assist with, they had a course of Seoul University of American culture, right?
And I'm not a professor.
I don't have no formal education, but they just wanted somebody just to go up there just to talk.
and then because I knew a little Korean,
not floored or any of that,
but I used to go up there.
And I'll tell you,
there's so much of a difference
between the educational system
and career opposed to America
because when I was there,
I was a bullshit professor.
I would just go up and just share stories.
They'd be like, oh, you're my professor.
They respected me.
Like, I've been in school for like 10 years to do this.
And it's like everywhere I went,
it was the extra bowel.
And certain things that I experienced
being stationed in Korea,
I want to revisit it.
and kind of connect with that.
That's why my next special that I want to do,
I want to shoot it in Korea.
Oh, you should.
Wow.
Yeah.
Do you like the Korean people?
Yeah, the culture, everything.
It's a good, interesting.
Interesting.
It's very interesting.
I see why.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm full.
I don't get it.
It's very interesting, though.
If you think about it.
If you think about it.
I'm full Korean and yet.
Yeah, but you're adopted, right?
Wait, wait a second.
Oh, wait, I have a.
an opportunity for both of you to go back to Korea.
That would be interesting.
I got Hongkongam al-Huqam.
You know how they have a lot of these...
War babies, here we go.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Oh, that's crazy.
No, here's the thing with me wanting to go back to Korea.
When I was stationed in Korea, I used to work with this guy.
His name was Kim Chay-sung.
Okay.
Kim Chay-sung was a good friend of mine.
We used to crack jokes on each other all the time.
crack jokes, I would teach him some English, he would teach me some Korean, right?
And I always so, every so often, I think about him, I'm like, what is he doing?
What is he up to?
Kim Chay-sung.
And Kim Chay-sung used to get mad at me because I used to fuck with him.
Like, in a Korean culture, if you sing somebody's name like, Kim Chay-sung, it's like insulting.
Like, you call him a bitch-ass motherfucker.
And I used to always fuck with Kim Chay-Sung.
He used to be like, Lonis, why do you say, Kit-Ju-Sug?
I don't like Kim Chis-Hu.
Jay-Song, you call me Kim Chay-sung.
Right?
And I was always, sometimes I think about what he's done or where his life is.
It's like 30-some years ago.
And I started working with these Korean tailors about four years ago.
And I was telling him this story about Kim Chay-sung in my relationship.
But I was like, I wonder if he ever thinks about me.
And one of the tailors said, maybe, one of the tailors.
He has no idea.
said maybe we go find Kim Chayson, right?
And I'm looking at her like,
there is no fucking wait, 30-some years later,
you're going to find Kim Cheson.
Why?
He's in the military.
He was in the military, he could be dead.
I know, no, but there's records.
You think in Korea we have no records?
You know what I mean?
Part of my story.
We look at the records and Kim Chon is up?
Wait, Jason, is that a common name?
Yeah.
Like super common, right?
Yeah.
So that's going to make it a little bit harder to find.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would start at Homo Hill.
Have you heard of Homo Hill?
No, I haven't.
Yeah, Homo Hill is the gay community in Korea.
I wouldn't know where it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You were here? Did you drop a pin? Did you show your location?
No, I'm just very aware that there's a Homo Hill.
Let me finish this story.
Okay.
So part of that, like, I know for you, it might be an easy process to go find.
And for me, I'm thinking 30-some years ago, Kim Chessang, and basically, I'm saying they all look alike.
So you can't find.
Okay, Hugh. I know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to help you with.
with this.
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me tell you the end of the story.
He died.
He's gonna fight you.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Uh-huh.
You learned that.
So she was like, maybe we found Kim Chay-sung.
What is this?
It's to alleviate the stress and anxiety.
So it's like, there you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she was like, well, maybe we found Kim Chesson.
I didn't think anything of it, right?
Literally, like three months after she said that,
that she sends me a picture.
She found him.
And I was like, what the, the crazy thing,
I was like, what the fuck did y'all even talk about?
And she said, Donnell, every story you told us
about Kim Chay-Sung, he told us the same story in Korea.
So part of-
Wait, how old were you guys?
I was super young.
I was probably just turning 18.
I went in, really, really young, young, like teenagers.
Dump touch.
It's beautiful.
Hey, beautiful.
What?
It was so beautiful.
Yeah.
It's beautiful, dude.
But the point I'm making,
even when it comes to specials,
my opinion of specials,
they aren't special anymore.
Like, everything, unless, like,
there's just nothing special.
You know, you'll meet somebody at the gas station.
Like, yo, come, I'm taping my first special.
But it's certain things that can make it special.
My thought of doing this would be, like,
documentary style.
You know what I come over here,
I kind of, like, share some of the stories
of me being in career.
maybe interview some of the people I was stationed with
but what I would like for to do at the end of it
and like I could get in touch with Kim Chay Sung now
but I want to end it with us
reuniting.
Reunite. I do like 10 minutes about that relationship
it's a lot of funny stuff that I didn't mention I'll save it
but that would be so dope I think it'd be different.
I think you could do a whole special
just around your experience.
He comes to the show right, he's at the show right?
Yeah, right? And then after the show you
you guys can go to Homo Hill
Have a little tea.
Who knows what happened?
A lot of things happen there, but you know what I mean?
So true, so true.
That's young down here.
Oh my God.
So cute.
So cute.
Yo, I was 17.
Oh, my God, you were a baby.
You're a baby.
And when I first was stationed in Korea, they used to call me Eggia.
What does that mean?
Baby.
Because I had no facial hair.
You thought I was a dependent son.
They thought that I was, they called OSI.
OSI is like the equivalent to the FBI in the middle.
military. And when you're OSI, you can't wear your rank on your shoulder because if you ever get captured or anything like that, they don't want to know who you are. So they used to call me OSI and they used to call me Eggie. That was 17-year-old kid. That was basic training. Can I say something about your, that photo? Yes. You are so handsome, so cute. And the years have not been good to you.
Well, that he was. No, no, no, no. The weathered, you've been through a couple of tsunamis and hurricanes. I don't know.
what happened to your face.
He's been looking for the sun,
but you got fucked.
You know what I'll tell you something
about that picture
what it represents to me?
I mean, right?
No, no.
I mean, that should have been like,
you know what I mean?
A model.
I'll just say this, Bob.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go back to the other picture.
Go back to the other picture.
What that picture represents to me
and to be able to cut here
and talk to you
is so many people
from that year of that age
that I know that are dead now.
So you can say how weathered I look
or whatever.
I'm still looking at my body.
He served in the military.
I mean,
you're so right.
Right. I think that that's, when I look at this, it breaks my heart a little, actually a lot.
Why does it break your heart?
Because he's in uniform. He's a young kid. There's so many things that are happening in the world at this time, and he's a young kid stationed all across.
What's going on in this world? This world, this little boy is like living in. He's all the way on the other side of the world in a different. First time on an airplane?
First time, it's so interesting.
And he's likely lost friends. Stop. Yeah.
Let me say something.
The remarkable, let me say something.
You're right.
I did.
You're right.
You're right.
The remarkable part is this, okay?
17 years old, being shipped to a different country, right?
Learning about different cultures, right?
At one point, he's no longer in the military, starts doing comedy,
becomes on the Dave Chappelle show, becomes a fucking star,
playing thousands and thousands of theaters,
and now he, you know what I mean?
He's killing it.
This is a man who's lived a full,
life of experiencing every little drip of life has to offer and it's a miracle.
He had the talent then, right?
You're talking about a guy who is like lived a complete life who walked through fear, right?
And did what he said he was going to do.
And see, that's what I'm right.
I'm being real right now.
We know what this is going to end, Bob.
No, it's going to end you going.
shut the fuck up.
You know what I mean?
You're gajian or whatever
you're gonna say.
Go back to Omaha or whatever you're gonna say.
What's your boy?
I'm saying that when I look at this photo,
I see a boy who's about to have
an extremely, you know what I mean,
excellent life.
There's hardships in comedy.
There's hardships in the business that we do,
but you made it and you did this as well.
You've had so many different lives.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, this is a photo of,
someone that's extraordinary.
Even though you look like an old-timey black man now,
you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I'm whatever.
On tap dancing?
Was that tap dancing?
I don't know.
No, you could have danced without.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Just weathered, you know what I mean?
But my point is, is that
but that's just honest, you know,
me, boldie eyes, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
But, like, kind of Beetlejuice-like.
Okay, we don't know.
But my point is, is that,
from the Stern Show.
But what I'm saying is,
is that what a life.
You know what I mean?
And your face reveals a story.
And that life would have been better if I,
I mean,
I'm telling you,
I kind of honestly say,
I really appreciate what you said,
but no,
it really meant a lot to me.
And I know this episode,
it's not all about jokes,
but that life would have been
so much better if I would have never met you.
This airman has died in the story.
You know how bad
but I'm going to be able to be
what I'm going.
I just never, I never saw it.
And I can say the same.
I can probably say the same.
I don't know.
Yeah, I understand.
I would love to be able to dismiss the part of me meeting you.
Yeah, yeah.
But there was something going to be, something's going to happen.
Something, somebody's going to look at this one day.
But you know what?
They finally did this movie.
They finally did that.
And if we ever do something like that, it would be fantastic.
But don't you think, though, that you and I in something would be good?
Yeah, I do it really.
Because we have organic hatred for each other.
Yeah, and I think that would play on screen.
Oh, it would be real.
We wouldn't have to add.
No, no.
The fighting scenes?
Oh, my God.
They would be like, cut.
We're like, no, fuck him for real.
No, really, fuck him for real.
That's how it was.
When I was on HBO's The Corner years ago, I played a heroin addict, right?
And we actually shot this on location in Baltimore.
So we were, we weren't, it wasn't in no studio or anything.
Like, we were really in, like, crime-infested, like, neighborhoods.
In fact, we didn't know who was the real heroin addicts until they said cut.
because they would be like,
they'd be like, just, yeah, man.
And they'd be like cut,
and they'd be like, oh, no, I'm real, motherfucker.
Wow, wow.
And I was years ago.
And you think that,
it's so interesting that you said that about
that guy in the military,
and I have had a full life
because a lot of times,
when we're in this business,
people think us that we're in this business
because when we were younger,
we stared in a mirror
and we were like this,
I want to be a comedian,
I'm pretty funniest guy.
I never wanted any of that.
Neither.
I always, well,
Well, I wanted to do, the first thing I wanted to do, I wanted to be an architect,
but I wasn't really good at math, so you can't be a motherfucker, a architect, and not good at math.
So I said, maybe I'd be a carpenter.
I wasn't really handy.
And I chose a military, not because, I'll be honest, not because I was super patriotic,
but I chose it because it was a transition for me.
From the way out from people of my background, I'll say a lot of black people,
when you're not decided on what you want to do, you're like, this is the best thing for me.
In fact, the way they recruit for black people, opposed to white people, is totally different.
In what?
Yeah, the military.
Okay, I didn't know.
Yeah, when they recruit you as a for a white person,
they're like, just, do you love your country?
They were actually, do you love your country?
When you stand for your country, do you believe in this and everything?
That's how you, they-
The patriotic grow.
The patriotic side.
For black people, you know what they say, you know,
you ever thought about going to college?
I'm being honest.
Wow.
Yeah, you want the GI Bill.
You play basketball?
Whoa.
Because they know they're not going to get black.
Some are super-patients.
patriotic. But for most people, especially from like
poverty areas or whatever like that, you're going in the
military just because it's a transition. And you look at it like it's a
secure job. It's an opportunity to. It's an opportunity.
Yeah, basic life things. Yeah. And with me, I didn't
join it. I joined the military because I was like, fuck it. No college,
not really trained or anything. And this is what I wanted to do. And I don't
have any gripes about it. It served its purpose for me. But I will
say this, if
we would have went to war
and any of you
motherfuckers in this room would have thought
that I was going to protect you.
I know. I know.
You might as well kill yourself or
Kim Jong-ul. I wasn't that guy.
When was the last time you were there in Korea?
I haven't been since. That's why I'm so excited to go
back just to see how everything's
changed. I have to come with you.
Yeah. I mean, I think that would be a good of
I have an extra pitch.
Okay, go ahead.
I think that, you know, you guys,
you were talking about health earlier.
I know you're, you know, worried about your health.
They have those head-to-to-toe comprehensive health exams.
One of them is called, the best one is called Haimedi Spa.
And they will literally take every single test,
every screening, every imaging, every diagnostic thing.
And you, for like, what, like a thousand dollars?
It's affordable there, yeah.
Yeah.
In Korea?
In Korea, yeah.
So we're going to go to Korea to figure out where we're,
we're going to die?
Yeah.
But also just, you know, like, obviously.
Are we scanned together or separate?
No, I think you scan on the same.
Holding hands.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't be scanned together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but I think that you should go back, like.
And they're going to go, they're going to scan me and they go, you have bird flu, right?
And then they're going to scan him.
He has sickle cell.
No, they're going to scare you like, yep, he is an asshole.
That's a big of him.
He's a gay asshole.
You know that I'm not an asshole.
right? No, I don't know that. Yeah, no, no, no. But just be real. I'm really nice.
No, you're not an asshole. Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you. You're just unfavored in some communities.
Oh. Oh, are you saying the black community? Yeah, we don't fuck with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?
That's kind of true. No, people like you.
No, it's unfortunate. I don't like it. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I'll tell your story, okay?
I don't know what event this was. It wasn't in this city, though. It was somewhere else where you were wearing a suit.
I'm always wearing a suit.
Okay.
So he was wearing a suit.
I think we were in New York, right?
And it was for something.
And I saw it down there.
And we didn't know we were both there.
And we were crossing paths.
And you went the opposite direction once you saw me.
More unlikely?
Yeah, yeah, more likely, right?
And I just wanted to say, you know what I mean?
What's up, dude?
Right?
And there was fear in his eyes.
You know what I mean?
And he walked directly in the opposite direction.
Right?
And I didn't see him for the rest of the night.
You know, how does one...
Mission accomplished.
All right.
How does one develop a relationship
when the behavior is like that?
Maybe start with a bow.
A respectful bow up front.
Okay.
Well, that he should be doing anyway
because I'm older than him.
That's true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How old are you?
Yeah.
58.
Oh, 54, you're right.
So I should be bowing.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, and Samtun.
What do I call you?
Opa.
Kyeong?
Opa.
You could call me Opa.
I'll call you Opa, all right?
So he.
From now on and everyone...
Damn, I went from...
Tone Singh, Hung-Nem,
out of shit, to Opa.
I got a whole bunch of years
that motherfucker, man.
Opa means an older brother, okay?
Why not Hing?
Young, or I'll call him Hung.
Yeah.
Okay.
They got Hung, yeah.
Yeah, I'll call him, all right?
So from now on, and this is going to be true,
what I'm saying right now
is pure fact and truthful, okay?
Please don't run away when you see me.
I can't promise you.
Okay, okay.
But if you do,
see me, I'm gonna bow you, and I'm gonna call you,
I'm not gonna approach you, they'll be distance, okay?
And then we can go on our merry way.
I think that's a very good thing.
And I think that's a good beginning.
I think it's a good start, yeah.
I think that's a good start, right?
But you have to force yourself to not run away.
I got a fart.
I think the air is coming back this way.
Yeah, I should get it.
I'm getting it.
Why do you here?
So
Let's regroup
Where do we start from
Before that?
So when you see each other
At the comedy store
Yeah, no
We know the rules
I bow
You're about only
You know what I mean?
Respect, yeah
Respect.
You don't run away.
Are you FaceTiming?
You don't run away
And we'll start there, okay?
Thank you so much
for encouraging me to do a special
Because I have done one
And I think it turned out pretty good
Everyone was there
It comes out in November
on Hulu
And then...
Here's another reason why I want to say that.
And I don't know if you have this issue, but me, I have this issue.
Like, I do these podcasts.
I was somewhere a couple weeks ago.
And so many people said, you're one of my favorite comedic actors, right?
They say, you're one of my favorite comedic actors.
I'm like, I'm not really a comedic actor, but what people know me from on TV.
I did a Netflix special, but I don't have a lot of presence as a stand-up in the world.
People look at me like, that's the guy from The Wire.
That's the guy from BMF.
That's the guy from Shepel Show.
But they don't know that's the guy from the stage.
And I think that I don't know if you know that issue.
But people that have been following stand-up at the store,
they know you a stand-up.
But I don't know if the world has seen you.
They haven't.
That's like, as it's crazy as it may sound.
Right now, I'm somewhat reinventing myself.
I'm going to start posting stuff.
It's not going to be crowdware clips to it,
to each is all with that shit.
But I'm going to test myself to drop bombs.
just shit that people like, oh, that should be for a special.
So people can connect with me.
And when I say that, I think you should do a special
is because a lot of people don't know you from the nights
that you put in at the comedy story.
I know, that's what I did it.
That's why, you know.
Yeah.
That's why I did it.
And also, you're one of the most, and you're going to hate to hear this.
But you and are very, like, online in terms of podcasting,
the stuff that you get clipped for, right,
is the same kind of stuff that I get clipped for.
It's the same exact.
that we have the same kind of thing, you know what I mean?
So I think that you and I are closer than you think in terms of stylings,
in terms of the, I think this is a good chemistry, right?
I also believe that, you know what I mean, in a different world, you know what I mean?
I didn't know what I'm asking for this.
Yeah, yeah, I only believe that in a different world, you know, if you and I had a podcast,
that it would be very good, you know what I mean?
And because it would be combative like that.
But you know what?
Here's the thing.
But I hate the, like, podcast.
It's just, I want to take creativity to the next level.
Before I did the Chappelle show, I used to have this sketch group called The Secret Society
years ago.
And what it was was basically, it was me because I had this stand-up,
and I had different characters in my stand-up.
Like, I had this one fat kid that took my bike when I was a kid.
Yeah.
I had this Asian character, and I used to do this.
I had the sketch show.
And then I moved away from that, you know.
I don't want to say, I want to say,
I want to do a show and
can they compete with Chappelle's show anything
that you like that. But I would love to get back
into it. Not in like
I try to take over the world or I'm the
best, but just the fun stuff.
For the joy of it. With the people that I know
like this guy. Like you got
shut the fucker.
Just stop it.
I have an idea.
Ow!
Stop it. No, no, no.
No.
I want to hurt you.
I want to hurt you too.
That fucking hurt.
Not just, then, mission accomplished.
Not just, because you see these people like do these skits and everything, I'm not knocking it.
But I would love to get a group of people, a handful of people.
You bleeding?
No, but I hurt.
No, no, no.
Oh, okay.
A group of people.
A group of people and not like, this is going to be the best thing, but just for some fun shit, just to see how the chemistry lines up.
Yeah. Would you put Bobby in there?
Yeah. You know what would be a good idea is X sketch guys, you know what I mean,
that are still in the game. Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like me,
like guys that were on sketch shows in the previous, right? Yeah. And we're like,
we're an older sketch group, right? And we're back, you know, because all they do is use
20 year olds that are from the ground legs and they're cute, you know, right?
But you got to, go ahead. Go ahead. And the old school sketch guys from different sketch shows in
generations to create their own
sketch show and we're like just older
but like
you know it's something because you know I'm friends of Jordan
he's a production company
maybe you and I can go to Jordan
right and go to Monkey Paw
and go me and Donnell and a bunch of
ex sketch guys
that are still internet
relevant today and we
have a sketch group
that would be epic that's fun I think it'd be epic
wait okay so yeah you were pitching something
to him yeah you're taking this
to heart. This is something like Bobby will
actually do. You need to follow through. I will
do it. Okay. But the only
way to do it is to find
three or four other people. Okay, let's think about
three, four other people. I don't know.
I mean, I don't know if they would be, I mean,
Jamie Fox.
Eric Griffiths. No, no, they're too big. It's got to be
at me and don't know. I wouldn't put past, I got a
great relationship with Jamie. Jamie always
I wouldn't put, at the end of the day, a good idea is a good idea.
I wouldn't say no to
Jamie Fox. I don't think it's unreasonable.
But you know, you never know.
Yeah, you never know.
But even throw, like, Deborah in there.
Deborah Wilson is a very good one.
We got, we got, um, uh, there's a button, there's a, but.
So many.
Yeah.
People from, um, I don't even know some of these.
Yeah.
What, is Matt TV way down on the list?
It's there.
Where?
Just pass the Muppet.
Yeah, it's, yeah.
Okay, maybe we should have done this, but maybe you should have done this, but let's just
see where Matt TV.
I'm sorry.
I didn't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
23, 24, 25, 26, 27.
I think we missed to the top.
I think it was my band.
There is.
31.
We got there.
Okay, we got there.
That's not ranking.
That's just a listing, right?
It's just a listing.
No, it's a ranking of the best ones.
That's a list.
No, read the top.
Oh, Michael McDonald's.
Well, Chappelle's a four.
Oh, McDonald would do it.
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Forty greatest sketch comedy shows of all time.
Yeah, Monty Python would be number one.
But anyway, yeah, I mean, that's a good idea.
That's such a good idea.
And I think that we would need a white chick.
You know what I mean?
We would need a white dude.
Yeah, we do.
And then I think we could fill it in with two other black people,
a black girl and a black girl and a black guy.
That's something to think about.
Yeah, something to think about.
But anyway, you have anything to promote?
Oh, yeah, just Donair Rawlins.com.
I'm touring.
I got a shitload of date.
In the month, oh, this is what I really like to promote.
I do something in Yellow Spring.
It's called Donail Land.
That's a Memorial Day weekend, right?
Oh, cool.
It's four days of family activities.
Wait, where is your son?
Right there, the black, it's like, you'll see.
Yeah, I love your son.
Right there.
I love your son.
Right there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hold on.
Keep going back.
That's him.
Yeah, he's so cute.
And then here's the thing.
I started this.
And the reason why I did, this is a Yellow Spring.
Yellow Spring is Dave Chappelle's home.
But when I first started going out there during the pandemic,
Dave had the comedy scene on lockdown.
But then we had all these people that were in town that we just different type of activities.
So I was like, let's do, let's do the kickball thing.
I was somewhat to camp counselor.
So when he stopped doing it, he wasn't doing as much,
I still want to continue the energy that we had
with introducing people to the country life or whatever.
So this is the sixth year, Donnell Lane, it's amazing.
Also, if I'm not a celebrity, but I was kickball team captain for years.
When I tell you, it's super, super competitive.
That was me.
I'm a yeller.
I was a team captain.
And this is the thing.
When I started Donnell Land, they say, what is Donnell Land?
I say, Donnell Land bridges the gap between the young and the old to make memories for a lifetime.
And that's the one thing I steal and my son, like, always make memories.
It's a good time.
Six years.
And it's a lot of, I will say, I was a little nervous about doing this year because anytime you do big events, it's just so stressful, dealing with all this stuff.
But I want to shout out my sister, Erlinda Franklin, who pretty much became the executive project manager or whatever title she has.
She's making sure that this vision I have continues.
and she's on a great job and I love it.
What's it?
522.
522.
That's awesome.
And the kayak can do.
I'm in Toronto.
I'm two sold out.
She was in Toronto.
Wait,
what do you guys do on the kayak?
We just float the river.
Is it?
Yeah, it's like a zero,
it's a zero class river.
It's not like rapists.
I can't make it to Donnell.
Is there fish in the river?
Yeah, little fish where we go.
Yeah.
But it's just like.
Anyway, check out Donnell land.
And beautiful fun activities.
really good time. Kayak and eating pizza.
Yeah, and getting together
with old mates.
Kickball. And kickball. Getting together.
You know what I mean? And I think that's a beautiful thing.
And especially during a war, I think that's a great thing.
You know what I mean? And...
And also, yeah, yeah. And also, I want to say, go
check out his dates at his website.
Donnell, Relings, whatever.
Rawlings!
Rallings!
All Korean, we're pronouncing Lorlings.
Right, right, right. Right, right. But whatever it is.
Whatever it is, go check it out.
And then what a talent.
And thank you.
How many times that's Donald done this for show?
Wait, can you guys hug?
This is our third.
Can you hug?
No, we're not going to hug.
Yeah, yeah, we're going to hug.
No, we'll do a hug.
And I'm going to show you the different kind of hug I do.
I don't want to do a bow.
We'll do a bow.
We'll do a bow.
Oh, you just bow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'll be like, hey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, not a lot of people have done third time on this pod.
You know what I mean?
So I think that.
Bill Burt.
I think he's done it twice.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Who else has done it?
Who's the most that's done it?
Theo.
Theo.
Yeah, yeah.
But anyway, you're one of the regulars on this show.
Thank you for a lot, miss you.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, I look at my eyes.
I love.
I love that.
Okay.
Give me a go, go, go.
