TigerBelly - Ep 234: Rory Scovel & The Creampie High-Five

Episode Date: February 26, 2020

Papa doesn't want anyone to jam in G minor. Rory goes behind the curtain. Khalyla always protects Devin Sawas. We talk double rage outs, untrustable lips, Yanni in RHCP, Rogan's muscular eyes, and going on tour with Tool. Please support our sponsorsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey Prime members, you can listen to Tiger Belly ad free on Amazon music download the app today Hey guys Bobby Lee here slept King 2020 was I'm on tour Denver comedy works March 12th of the 14th be there or be square Houston, Texas March 27th to the 29th at the Houston improv Dallas, Texas at the Addison improv April 3rd through the 5th San Diego comedy American comedy club with crazy Justin

April 30th through the May 22nd. He should be hospitalized Ontario, California my favorite club in Ontario It's the only one there May 8th through the 10th the Ontario improv go to Bobby Lee calm and grab them before Bobby Lee live Bobby Lee live calm and grab them before they're gone I wish I didn't see that Michael Jordan thing it got me a little emotional which one the Kobe tribute other Kobe That's not a Michael Jordan thing. That's a Kobe thing. He was a guest from the cameras on my god Yeah, I cried during the Michael Jordan thing Yeah, yeah, and let me say something that nothing better than turn the cameras on I cried

Did we get that did we get that I'm emotional? But I think when Michael Jordan cries he cheats a bit in what way he doesn't wipe it out, you know More you're organic, you know, I mean instantly he lets it flow I don't like the ones where no tears are coming, but they're doing this. Oh, yeah You're like, I'm crying. I swear and then yeah, that's why guys wear sunglasses at funerals Because you're not really crying the pressure. I don't know. Oh wait, is it go? I shouldn't talk until I sit mine You know what you already told me the rules What the fuck we're wrong as part of the challenge is to not yeah, um

Um Yeah, so, you know, I got really I was at the taco stand and I was watching some of the Michael Jordan stuff and um really sad Kobe passed as well I'm kidding Yeah, cut that out. That's not yeah Cut that part out. You tried Didn't quite land. It's okay. Yeah Um

Anyway, start fucking start then you fucking asshole five four five three two one Oh Yeah Man Where are my gooch-gooches, you know on my face, um My girlfriend in Hawaii said that I look like robbery Robert Downey syndrome And um That was a real thing. She said that on the elevator and I was fucking I bought I just bought these

I almost fucking broke them in the elevator. It was a good slam, babe And then I posted it on instagram and then some lady was like, you know what it's bad comedy writing You know she's like it's bad comedy writing to make fun of people down syndrome and um You should really think about your jokes and whatnot and I I go crazy when regular people try to Tell me what funny is but anyway, it was even the fucking well. There's a deeper story to that Um when I said Robert Downey syndrome, he's like I'm gonna tweet that I was like, you're gonna pass it off as your joke when it came out of my mouth

And he's like, yeah, I'm gonna do that But as soon as that lady was like you shouldn't make fun of people with Downey syndrome His response was well, my girlfriend said it That's the truth and that's what the podcast is about is about truisms truisms and um You know, I want to introduce people in the room and we have a very special guest as well. Um Um, I love everyone listening. Um Um, we have this guy right here

George is a good dude, but if you ever want your set decorated Because I have a podcast with andro sentino and this guy fucked it up Oh, you fucking that's so white the way you said it in front of your friends in front of your friends Yeah, yeah, Rory's in the house too. He's embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. I'm He's gonna fucking leave now you fuck I I can't do this I've been released I've been released from the invisible jail. Yeah of non-talking but um You know the set that he built bad friends. It's like that show Uh, the first 20

48 great show. You're like any it looks like an interrogation room It like in some Miami 1980s It's terrible And people ripping us up on the internet trolls going it's a terrible set But you know what you worked hard on it. I remember I saw you pop pop pop pop doing things You know what I mean? So thank you for that. All right. Good try All right, shut the fuck up I love you. We got john's got a new baby

Yeah Yeah, yeah, he doesn't really know because he's high as fuck right now, but uh, you congratulations. You just had a baby. Okay All right You high fuck. I love you. Thanks for joining us. All right he's like, uh Data from the goonies if you grew up You know what I mean? He has that Yeah

Yeah, like short round remember that very short round remember that holy smoke. Dr. Jones. Dr. Jones. Dr. Jones. Yeah. Yeah, that's what you are and then we got uh Gabby. Yep. Yep. That's my name. I love Gabby man the amount of people that have messaged me Yeah, that uh, hey man. Did you really run the 100 meter dash but in only 90 meter room? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's not how the joke goes, but yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Sad It's not meters yard yard yard. Yeah, that's the joke, but um, very good try. Thank you so much. What's wrong with me today

I'm so fucking well. Can I can I tell people why you're vicing Rory so that I know we will just tell him real quick I am here to meet the group He's a white guy just observing Asians talking to zoo Okay, interact. Oh, all right. You can't don't I won't get specific. Yeah, don't get specific I'll just say Bobby came with some heat in the room because He was a psychologically attacked by some online trolls that Attack bad friends. Yes. Oh, and that's that and that's that's enough. Put him in a mood. That's it. Oh, that's it Well, first Andrew Santino put me in a mood. He's screaming and all that stuff. You know how that energy is. Yeah

with my beautiful girlfriend coli love seven years and uh, but you know, I have a special we have a special guest today and um I'll tell you why he's special because I really hadn't really met him. I had heard of him from many many of moons and years, you know, and um And then you would see billboards with him on it, you know, like the netflix special that I don't know if I saw though You were there It has to be a town. I wouldn't be here west covina. Yeah, and um, no, I saw you on a billboard once and then um I remember doing love. Yeah. Yeah, and then they said rory scoval is um, gonna be on it

Do scenes with you? Uh, and uh, I got really excited. Um, I love those scenes. Yeah for fun. Yeah, and And then um, you did a movie with amy schoom schoom. They cut those scenes. They did you know, no, no those scenes were cut Are you out of your fucking? No the magic we made. No. No. No. Are you kidding me? I am not kidding. When did you find out? When I watched it Go to the premiere. No, no, no premiere. It wasn't it wasn't see it was like that one scene and I think they Cut it because probably for time, but they were like, oh, this doesn't this isn't part of the story

Oh, you mean the scene that when you and I run in about the radio thing I think there's a chance we we run in and that and that's kind of quick or From what I remember, I I don't know that we show up at all. It's just like What it's the it's the sunglasses. Oh my god, the other podcast Anywho we did do it together we crushed it we crushed it and um But then I also know your your friends with my friend nicky Mm-hmm. You said what's his last name nick you said you said you said And very talented young man. Yeah, and um, and you guys are

Well, let's introduce rory scoble Let's do that for I clap for myself whenever I'm introduced. I also like me And you guys are um on tour. Yep following the band And tool that's right right. Yeah, and initially how did that come up? Uh, well, we Myself and uh, and nick and freddy scott We are all obsessed with the band tool went to see them in l.a. We didn't the three of us didn't really know each other that well Uh, if if at all really and we decided to get dinner before the concert Chatted about it. We're like, oh man, we're all in deep. We all love this band. Yeah, and nick made a joke at some point

He was like if they announced more dates, we should just follow them Do our shows to make money to buy tickets to see their shows And we kind of laughed about it and then when they announced more dates I started thinking about it and I was like, oh, this is this is one of those unique things where Even if we make no money and even if You know, whatever when we promote this no one else will be promoting this type of thing Of course no, and so I was like, oh, maybe there's some traction In that yeah, and so we decided to to book some dates follow them

I went on cone and he was like, do you have something to promote and I was like, well, I'm doing this tour I could announce that. Yeah. Yeah, so I went on and joked about that the guitarist for the band saw that He messaged me and he was like, I'll hook up tour passes and you guys can like come to the shows Awesome. So right out of the gate. I was like, hey, we don't have to take the money. We're making to buy tickets He's like hooking it up So right out of the gate We were like floor seats 8th row

Backstage passes we went backstage right after the show we like met him So he let us do this Every night after their shows it got to a point where It was known we would just walk back there and hang out his whole crew We'd start going back there. They're like, oh, it's these guys. All right. Just he's back like through there And so we kind of met the other members of the band that way and then It this has been my this is my favorite band since I was 16. Oh my god. And now here we are in their world and And maybe because of this the business that we're in of entertainment in general

You the the the illusion of things being Magical behind the curtain. We already know it's not that's not what it is. You know what I mean Yeah, like you already know like oh everyone's people and behind the curtain. Everyone's just doing a job. Yeah. Yeah, and so going into it I was like, oh, I I hope that that's what this is. Yeah and going behind the curtain. I was like, oh, yeah These are four dads who are very good at their band. Yeah, and they're just very normal Very nice. There's no ego at all about how Successful they are. They even thanked me for going on Conan and talking about their band. What and I was like, you're welcome But you do sell out 20,000 seats. I don't know if you need me. I think you're doing great

But it's fucking funny because because nick used to be my opening act for many years And he would go on and on about the the band tool. Yeah, right how they're you know up there In terms of like the Beatles and whatnot right and in my mind. I'm like, there's no way And so I don't go to I don't have a CD player I buy everything off of fucking iTunes and shit. Yeah, right? And so I didn't know anything about tool. So I would google it. I mean go to iTunes tool And it would two things would come up and there were like songs about hammers and you know, I mean like not the band tool But I would listen to it like preview it the hammer goes like this and the nail

You know, I mean all you're listening to children's Yeah, I was I you're like, why does he love this band? This is ridiculous And then what happened was the screwdriver says to the hammer. Hey, why does he like this? The Beatles he thinks this is the Beatles So then what happened was as soon as they put their stuff online, right? I got all the albums Yeah, and I listed to them from beginning to end and let me tell you something you truly did do that Yeah, it's what I got. I love that you did that Listening to it and in the beginning you know once you start listening. I think I didn't start with the first album

I think I started with the newest one. Yeah, right. Yeah from beginning to end. Yeah, and it's like A journey. Yeah, but I also love You know, I grew up with Metallica and I like harder stuff as well. Yes, but this is a fusion Between that and something artistic and like Pink Floyd. Yes, and like Led Zeppelin. It's like psychedelic Yeah, it's heavier, but it's not met. It's heavier, but it's not metal to me. It's not metal. No, no, no But when it gets hard, yeah, it's it just it you can feel it in your fucking bones. Yes, you know how it builds Yes, like in the beginning it's the best sort of know it Yeah, yeah, yeah, right and then it's like it builds and they're like usually

Papa only likes two minute songs Oh, two minutes. I'm out. That's why I never liked the Grateful Dead Right. I don't want anyone to jam in G minor for 21 minutes for 50 minutes I got shit to do right but with fucking tooled so in my mind and I'm saying this right now In my mind, they're probably in my top 10 of all time And for me to yeah, that's great nothing about them and to have them in the mix of the velvet underground Yeah, I love Roxy music. I love the Beatles of stones all that stuff, right? Yeah pixies They're in that now, you know in my head and it's so and imagine

Not ever seeing a Tarantino movie and being able to see all nine not what eight of them right? Yeah, right? That's what it feels like. Yeah, it's well. There's a depth to it. I mean those bands that you're naming They're they aren't none of them were making music to sell records. They were like no This is what we make yeah, and if people like it then they end up liking it. Yeah, that's what I love about tool like to make 10 minute songs From where they're coming from people will be like no make them three minutes Like make it radio friendly not that that's even a thing anymore, but They're they're not like that. They're like no the natural progression of the song

That's just how long this has to ends up being and they aren't wasting Your time because it doesn't feel like 10 minutes. No, it doesn't. Yeah, remember when Chicago rebelled against that song Um, it was an inspiration and so they had like a radio friendly version But if you listen to the whole thing, there's like a seven minute. Yes, um, That has completely unrelated to the ballad. That was a song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You play it all the time. I know. I love it because it's so terrible. What song was it? Was it for your inspiration? It's not it's the other one. Yeah, I love somebody Dude it's a good song. It's a good song.

Remember like when you thought Peter Satara you're like, oh, he's like the lead singer of Chicago And then you learn about Chicago and you're like, oh, they had like a bad ass guitarist lead singer Yeah, you know about like are you a Chicago fan? Well, I liked the earlier work, but then they became ballady That's because that's because that guy died David Foster teamed up with Peter Satara and like and yes, yes They hate like get with the times make your money with these three minute love ballads And they did I will say they did crush those ballads, but that's not the band that they were It's like it's like the lead singer had a like scruffy your voice and he was a bad ass guitarist Yeah, it's like if Anthony Kitas died and they go call Yanni

Or or I love Yanni I love Yanni. I know but it just would fuck up. Just now you went. Oh my god, Yanni with RHCP Oh fuck That's the fusion now that's fusion We also talking about How like comics when we meet they're so accessible, right? Yes. Yes. Like, you know, we were out yesterday I went to Sebastian Manascalco's House and Bill Burr is there with his

Like the daughter and Delia a bunch of people were there and it's like I love seeing everybody But there's just there's no even if I met like If George Carlin, you know, I mean was alive It would be like cool, but there's something about meeting somebody that's not in your field like You know rock star. Yeah, it's the it's the person that's out of your field Where it's it's more exciting. Yeah. Yeah, I met in the last month Joey Santiago. He's the guitarist of One of my favorite bands of all time the pixies, right? And he said when I met him, he's like, you know, I first

This is so fucking gross, but this is so gross. This is so gross. I don't know. I'm about to say something gross say autograph No, in the beginning when I met him, right? Um, because it was just like social gathering. Um He goes, I I'm Joey and I pretended I didn't know who he was Come on, so this is what I go. I go Your name is Joey He goes, yeah, Joey Joey, right Joey Joey and now that I pretended I already knew he was when I saw him, right? Of course, right?

But I was just trying to like pretend But then he goes, but then he goes, I'm a big fan of your work, man You know, like I love your comedy and this and that and I go. Oh my god. When you guys got back together Um I don't think that's gross at all. I think that's hilarious I know I know to act like you don't know your favorite guitarist Because he doesn't know that that you feel that right? Yeah, well, and I'm sure he was just like the nicest guy of like He was so nice. I'm in the bar. Maybe you've heard of us. I know but the reaction my I almost stuck to dick

Like I was, you know, too little and you know, several, you know, I mean and went on and and at first he was just In I in my head. I was thinking he was thinking. I thought you didn't know my name You're a man. That's what I perceived. Maybe that's not what he was thinking But it's like, um, I try to play fun is that it's so fun. I love him. He was like, I love your stuff And that feels so good I'd rather have that than anything else because um, you know, when you're in high school, it's been, you know, you were in high school You were a kid once, right? No

I can't relate I don't know your journey. Yeah I mean in high school, did you smoke weed? Yeah, that's when I started right and so you would smoke weed and like Listen to tool or you know, you're you know, I mean and you you never in your mind think One day, I'll know this person ever ever never never especially then you have You probably didn't even think about doing comedy then it would never not at all I didn't I thought I I mean I thought comedy was a stand-up comedy was like you wear a suit and it's very like That seems like so hard to do. I don't know what that I don't think like that at all

It was it truly wasn't until I saw David cross and I was like, oh, it can be more casual Oh, I'm more I'm more that Than a suit and set up punch set up punch. Yeah. So David cross was your lead in absolutely Yeah, mr. Show seeing David cross seeing Swanson's half hour on comedy central all that like more Maybe I guess closer to my age because all stand-up. I had always seen was like older people Um, but seeing that it was like this sort of youthful Less polished and I don't mean that in a bad way, but I don't know that I I'm not the biggest fan of super polished So yeah seeing that there's people doing, you know this like hey, we're talking and in the and in the event of talking

I will make something funny. I'm like, oh, that's more my speed. Right. It's also the way Those guys dress. Yes. It also I loved when Jeanine did her first HBS Especially what she brought a notebook on there. Yes, and she had like the ripped jeans shorts Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that to me my lead in was market show because yeah Yeah, before her number number one. I'd never really seen I saw Henry Cho who was like a the southern guy I know him now. He's the next guy in the world. Well, all the shows you saw Yeah, all the shows Johnny

Margaret Cho Henry Cho Enrique Cho Vladimir Cho Yeah, so all so different So wildly different But um, I remember Margaret Cho watching her HBO special or whatever and then Going because she number one Didn't have an accent

Which was shocking to me. Yeah Oh, she's an actor and then all her points of view was from just very personal My mom this is they they ran a you know adult bookstore. You know, I mean, this is how I felt Drugs sexuality all from like an American like just a normal point of view and then that's when I went Oh, I can do it too. Right. Yeah, you need that almost, right? Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. Yes. And did you ever meet, you know, David, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've we've met I wouldn't say we're like closer. I've seen each other recently But how did you meet him? I was so Todd Glass was opening for him on a tour maybe like 10 years ago, maybe a little bit more than that and

I was on the road doing my own shows and I had a buddy that I went to college with Uh with me and he just had a camera and we we were just shooting random stuff and I was doing shows He was shooting my shows and we're just fucking around and I saw that Todd I knew Todd Todd was going to be opening for David in like, uh, Raleigh or somewhere in North Carolina and I was performing in Wilmington and I was like, hey, we're gonna come to the show And so Todd, of course, was like, oh, yeah, we'll come and hang out be in the green room And I was like, oh, shit. There's David cross. Like that's it's crazy because you want to be like, hey, I'm I do this because Yeah, I saw you do it, which I think is

Uh, if someone ever told me that I would be like that's that would floor me no matter who they are Why didn't you say that? There just was it was just us all hanging out and it was like if I would have gone into this emotional thing I would have been like, hey, you were all laughing. You changed my life. Everyone would be like, whoa gear shift Yeah, that would have weird weird gear shift. Yeah now this one guy's crying He's going on stage in a minute Oh You read it. You read it the right way. I think yeah, I I I wanted to say something but uh, um

I had said stuff to Todd. I was like, oh, this is crazy because I got into and I I There's a part of me felt like Todd maybe had said something. He was so nice. Not that he wouldn't be nice anyways But I just kind of felt like oh, he had maybe he I'm sensing an energy that he knows where I'm coming from Yeah, he influenced a lot of fucking people. Yeah, he really did. I mean mr. Show Outside of stand up, but mr. Show anybody who had a sense of humor was like, I wish I was on something like that I wish me and my friends were doing that even being on that tv and then watching Something like mr. Show. I mean, I always thought that Doing the sketch on uh, you know, because I did eight years of mad, you know, I mean and it was just like you can go ahead

How many years of mad But I always thought like because I grew up with like, you know, snl and I grew up with Watching in living color and I always just um, I just never felt I loved the people I work with I mean, I met great people on there, but To see something like mr. Show and be experimental and the way they would like just bleed into sketches and stuff like that I really try to open the envelope. It was like the high version. Yeah, but I wish we would have done that, you know Yeah, you know, you would pitch ideas that were a little weirder, but just because it's network and because You know, it's just not you're not

It's not in my shell, right, you know, you're I'm one of many Right and my curfew in high school was midnight and that's when it came on on HBO. Yeah one night I don't know what I you know back then you didn't know the schedule of TV. He's just kind of like yeah You came across stuff and then when you found it you couldn't get the information as to what it was Unless you got like the TV guide or something Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I like I came home one night at midnight right before I'd come home for my curfew I would get really high with my friends and then I go in and my stepmom would be like watching them in living room And I knew I could be super high because it was just like hey, I'm back

And I go downstairs. I'm in my own world Yeah, and I remember going downstairs and like turning the TV on it was HBO and that's what it was And I just sat down to be like what is this and five minutes in I was like What is this amazing and so much so That I then went to when I went to college I went to a party one night at another college We were playing each other in football and I went to this party with the other guys on the soccer team

And like it was on And I the guy who lived there. I go. What is this? I was like, what is this call? I was like, I've seen this and he was like it's mr. Show. Do you not know mr. Show? I was like, no, tell me everything you know About what this is and who these people are. Yeah, and he explained everything to me and I told him I was like I saw this in high school at midnight one night and I've never I didn't know what it was And I thought it was the most brilliant thing I'd ever seen Yeah, like on part, you know the first time you watch holy grail

You're like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, that's how I vote mr. Show. I was like, oh my god. This is unreal Don't you love back then when? You're not forced or fed or like, you know how like these companies just fucking bombard you with advertisement Yes, that discovering shit. Yes on your own. Yes. It's the wonder of back then Or having a friend show you something that you've never even heard about yes I remember the first time I saw a holy grail my my buddy was like, do you know what money python is? I was like, no, he's like, do you know what holy grails? I was like, no, and I spent the night at his house one night He put it on and we just sat there and I was like

This is this is incredible. Yeah, incredible. Like what am I watching when I was in high school? We used to do math End of story Anyway, we got into math and we were like, what is this? No, but that's the thing we were doing power way back then. Yeah, it's a little math on the side Associate a sweet town like power way. Yeah with crystal math. Well, if you guys have country clubs, it's a very affluent You know, there's there was a little underbelly and that was me. I was the underbelly of power Yeah, yeah, and so um, we were on math and I think we're on acid as well, which is a terrible

Come terrible combination. I've never done either. I already know that Yeah, you're just hallucinating but up Yeah, I mean, so you're seeing everything way too much. Yeah. Yeah, so and he was like, you got to watch Sam Raimi's Evil Dead 2. Oh my god, you know, and I it's a good suggestion. Yeah, and we turned it on This and I it you know that scene where he had cuts his hand. You ever see the movie? No, but Very visceral. Oh, I'm sorry. Rory. It's okay. Rory. I'll lean in Rory. I have to Rory

This is weird. I've never done this before this assay on no, but Put my hands on top of yours like this. It's like two cats right now. Yeah. Yeah. Rory. I implore you Right. Okay. All right Sam Raimi's Evil Dead 2 is a masterpiece. All right a filming. I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Can you edit that to just that? Post that and people like wait, what what is the show? He just convinces people to watch one movie every episode. It's always Sam Raimi's Evil Dead 2. It's all it is but it is it is so Campy and fun and yeah, you'd never heard of it like you'd never a blockbuster

You couldn't really find it. I know of it I don't know. I it's what that's that exists for me in one of those movies that one of those like that genre Of movies. I've always known about and I know and I haven't watched anything Bruce Campbell Ever and there's a chance I maybe love it and I don't know if the train has left the station and I'll never know Okay, just you know like I blade runner. I've never watched blade I know and people people are like you've got to see Blade Runner. I'm like But what if time is gone now? I know but I think there are evergreen movies. I agree with that for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I implore you

I just watched Terminator 2 recently. Did you like it? Yes. Terminator 2 holds up. Yeah for me. Yes. I love it I loved it too. Also At for Edward Furlong's first movie. Yeah, great actor. He's so good in that movie. So good. Yeah What are what are some movies that people continually like? Do you got so emotional? I just looked him up the other day. Yeah, he looks terrible. He's okay No, he looks like I think we all probably look terrible Like if I was in a movie when I was 12 right now, you'd be like, oh, that's that is true

You'd be holding my hands going. Yeah, you need to watch other movies You're right. That's that is a good point. If I was if I was in a He looks great. I think it's he looks like that looks great. Yes. I think like he looks like an older Harry Styles No, he looks like a young Jabba. Here's what I think That's young Jabba the I think I very very fuckable still very I think he's a great looking. Here's what I think He's got a little Tim Curry, doesn't he? A little bit. There's a little Tim Curry there, but here's the thing He's got a Palpatine's eyes too. Who knows the context of this photo Palpatine's eyes with a little Tim Curry. You got yourself an adult Edward furlough

You know, you put you who knows if he's like he's like, you know, I do need a haircut And you're like because of when I need a haircut It is night and day You see if you see me one day and the next day I've gotten a haircut you would honestly be like, did you lose 10 pounds? From last night and I'd be like, I know I look completely different. Yeah Yeah, even like just trimming my beard and maybe that's Why am I defending Edward furlough? I have no idea He just saw Terminator 2 and he's really invested in what he does

You know what? You're right. I want it. I like the T1000 want to protect him. Good You know who I want to protect? Is it the T1000 or is the T1000 the other one? I always protect it. I never saw it. Never seen it I always protect Devon Sawa Okay, who the fuck's that? Casper. Yeah Oh, wow the friendly ghost. Yeah, I will protect him till the day I die But also little giants. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, Casper. He played Casper the ghost Casper. Yeah But was he the voiceover is Casper? He plays both. He was once a real boy now. He's Casper and then he goes back to me

I never saw that movie. Was it good? But just the way you defended Edward furlong I'll do that for you felt a responsibility. Yeah. I'd you know what? It's time for me. It impacted me as a child Little giants. Good call. Mm-hmm. Yeah icebox. Is he alive? Remember that? Yes. Oh, yeah, baby. Is this fuck alive? Of course he is. What's his fuck doing now? I acting probably Just like Edward furlong But where is he? Yeah I just looked at his Instagram the other day. I think he's doing okay. He's a family man now. Yeah. What else do you want to know about him? Yeah, he still looks good. Oh

Oh, he's cute. He seems very young. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's got kind of a Oh, you know when the lips are like that though, I don't like it. What kind of lips I want to see What is it about the lips? What is it? I don't trust it. I don't trust the lips the lips They're the they look like there's no lips. There's lips. They're absolutely lips. They're normal regular Is it the lips? Let me ask you this. Is it the lips or is it the nose? Let me see the nose I think the nose is making you think it's the lip Yeah

That logic checks out that is that is a very logical and I I'm just to be clear I'm not saying that's a bad nose. I I for certain I have no ground to stand on when it comes to people's noses But I think I think I know what you mean like you see those eyes and that nose and there's something about it You're like, don't you smirk at me? But also in the back of your head, you're like, I bet that dude could kick my ass. Oh, and you stay away. Yeah I think a lot of people you think a lot of people could kick our ass I mean for sure. Yeah for sure

You know, I was gonna say the way I met margaret show back to when the way you met david cross I wanted to say this is that I was at doublins. Did I say this already? No, no, no, I said it again. Um, no not today, but in previous part. I forget john say it all every episode say it I was doing a show there and she just showed up and she goes, hey, I just thought I saw you on a flyer and I I just want to meet you. She said that's you. Yeah, she just came How do you have this connection with all these people you look up to they come to you? You're doing it, right? It's called manifestation. I think you're right. Do you believe in manifestation? I do after this tool tour. I 100% believe it Right. Yeah, I because I genuinely think I've died

And now I'm getting to live out this thing and as soon as it ends someone's like, you know, you've been dead for like four years And I'm like, okay Do you ever get those moments of I don't know if you suffer from anxiety where you had to check whether or not you're actually living I don't know how to check But my mind does wander into the realm of There is no way for us to actually know any of the things we've convinced ourselves that we know But what do you look at in your room that convinces you that okay? I am in fact still alive because there are moments where I'm like, oh, shit Nothing

Nothing, you know what I think I think I think when you die. I think when you die you're unaware that you died And you just keep living and everyone else in another alternate thing is like, oh, we're so Sad about we lost you and then and you're like you don't even know there's so many levels of Existence you don't even understand that you you're I could I I tell people I was like, yeah, what if I died in a wreck on the way here? I was like the good news is you just never know and you just keep thinking Oh, I'm still alive, but you don't ever know and everyone else in reality if we're calling it that they know you died Anyway, does that have anything to do with math?

Yeah, but is that at all when you're 85 years old if you're 85 years old you're old So then eventually I feel like when I'm 85, I want to think to myself. Okay any second now. Yes Any second oh, oh, that's not it, but here's here's where this comes from like taking it like 85 and you're like Well, I'm gonna die we people tell us like, okay, so when you do die You're you're told that either nothing happens and that's just how it is or people, you know Religious beliefs of being like, well, no, then you go to like heaven or you go to hell or whatever the the The thousands of different beliefs could possibly be yeah, but the reality being like What if that moment what what if death isn't something you're aware of?

What if because we think it we're like, oh, I'm so afraid I'm gonna die like sure in the moment But what if in a horrific moment? Everyone goes. Oh my god. We all saw the I hate bringing this up But sometimes this makes me feel better about situations But what if right now in an alternate reality? Kobe's just fine and he doesn't know that this has happened and he's living his life and there's this family and that's just how it But what I'm saying when I'm saying the lake house with Sandra Bullock But people when I'm saying is Kobe in this alternative life, right?

Will eventually turn 90 and right die, but you don't know that you haven't been 90 every second You you're convincing yourself You're convincing yourself of a past and you're convincing yourself of a future But realistically those are not those are not actual things You're only like right is all your regrets and all your fears and all your aspirations That's all good to have but literally there's only right the moment you're in is the only one you can actually see So what you're saying to me is is that Kobe? Exactly. I think it probably is Kobe never really I just fall out of different motivational

That didn't experience the helicopter crash. Yes that it you know that he all of a sudden That's forgotten and he just woke up that day and a completely different thing happened Or in his life that helicopter landed and that It's not that he's like existing with the people that are aware of it. He just I think it's I think it's You know and people go well, what do you think logically happens when you die? Logically and the most simple version you probably die and that's just it But and people go that's so depressing Well, how can you be depressed of things you unaware if you don't exist

You know, you're so right because if you really think about it even if you think about the very beginning When do you recall being a baby for the age of of birth to four years of age? No, so it's like you don't miss out on that part. You're not going to miss out when it's over Yeah, you didn't you or is it ever over? Yeah, I love that you're you're finding stress in this as opposed to we're comforted by the thought I'm comforted by a thought that when it's over. It just is yeah over. Can I do you guys read? Are you guys readers? I know how to read Rory Do you read do you know how to read?

Have I read no, but I know I've never read but I'm told that I will know when the time comes There's a great book many lives many masters Highly recommend it. It's about a psychologist trying to help this woman This is like back in the 90 early 90s maybe late 80s trying to help this woman who has these horrific fears horrific phobias She's not sleeping. She's her great fear of water all of these things and apparently he's he's like top notch That's the guy to go see and he cannot crack her in trying to figure out. What is it in her mind? So he decides a last ditch ever to try hypnosis puts her under and she starts telling him about lives that are clearly from like

Forever ago and she like explains in the 18th century about drowning and him like he starts piecing all these things where he's like Oh, you you've carried over these things when I was like, I'm not saying that you obviously you take everything with a grain of salt But when I read that book, I was like, oh, this is a more delightful version and vision of what maybe could happen when you die is that He he helped correct her supposedly and she kind of figured out what she had and like Like went on to live a prosperous life whether it's all real. I don't know but her description of yeah when you die You leave your body You're aware that you died and then you can spend as much time

Sort of in this ether before you decide that you want to reinsert yourself Back into this thing, but even bad people get to have that choice. I think everyone has it. Well, here's what I believe I personally believe that if if there is some if that is a version of anything that when people look at our lives of being like we're being tested and they always it's always simplified to like Well, god is watching you and if you're bad, you'll go to hell and if you're good you go to hell Like it's so oversimplified you're almost like That can't be it because that's just too. Yeah, there's not there's that's so weird But to me it's like well, what if in your life it is a genuine test of you

Because when people talk about god like anytime you do something that you know is fucked up You know it. So it's like you do see it. You are aware of when you fucked up You are aware of when you've done something Right, you know when you've done something good simply to feed your own ego And you know that sometimes you feel bad about that and you reconcile going well, I did still do something good You know what I mean you your analysis of your own existence is almost like you're your own Uh warden of sorts if our lives are prisons. What you're talking about is the noticer

Right, can we talk about that what ekart toll talks about? I would love to let's do it Oh, you notice He observed Yeah, but there is something behind my thoughts. Yes, that's observing third eye my third eye Yeah, so when I'm behaving in a bad way like you know, I'll snap. Yeah, but there's there's always something Behind it watching myself do it. Yeah, right and I feel like that. That's my true self Yes, right and that other stuff is just like my brain or like because of my ego and because of my history It's tied to some sort of trauma or something right why I react that way, but I am always observing

You know, I mean the way I'm doing it you think that My god, it's your it's your nobodiness Yes, right like everything else that the angry bobby and all that stuff That's the somebodiness that we're supposed to get rid of yes, it's actually If we it's that's where the ego lies. That's where the pain and suffering lie is in your somebodiness Ramdas Ramdas Imagine someone like a picture someone who isn't constantly in conversation with themselves At like all times. Yeah, like I am in con I am talking to myself to the point where

It's so much and I'm so certain that we all do it But it's so much that I'm like oh am I am I crazy and I don't know it like do people shut this off And they just sit there or am I an alunatic who is constantly Having a conversation in my head as though I'm observing my own life almost like I'm two different people Yeah, but I'm but I'm not it's it's I've always observed it as healthy I'm sure there can be we know for a fact there can be unhealthy versions of that But in my mind, it's always like, you know a pep talk to yourself or a motivational thing or

You know when you're dealing with stress or grief or whatever and you're trying to collect yourself I think I picture people who don't do that. I'm always like Yeah, what's going on the goal is I want to be empty-headed. That's my goal. It does feel like zen, right? You know what up, baby, whatever it whatever I've been doing every night. Are you talking to me? What's that? Are you asking me? No, I'm I want to prove the fact that every single night now I meditate. Yes, right And he falls into these really deep slumbers that he's never previously Yeah, and and by because I meditate

In the last 15 years never did his taxes You know, I owed the IRS $350,000. Everyone knows that, right? Yeah, but yeah, I never did your blog But I I before I started meditating I haven't dreamt in 15 years. Really? Yeah, since I've been meditating I dream Constantly, yeah, and I remember them very thick rich dream, right? So what I do is It's hard at first Right, so I get to sit Indian style And I lean up against a wall and I don't know if this is right or wrong. Are you up or down? What are you grounding? Or are you asking?

When you meditate, is that just the position of the palms? Yeah, no, no always rested on your knees I don't open it like this because I'm not doing fucking high fives to God Right, I'm not doing that. Yeah. Yeah, but you say the devil you say that like that's ridiculous But if you could high five God, you would do that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, that would be cool. Yeah. Yeah, but so what I do is That'd be cool to high-five God. That would be neat. Yeah. Yeah, like when you nut How do you yeah, you're saying that's a high five God if I nutted right inside you. Yeah Raw dog, right? And that'd be cool. What's your That you're cream pie high-five. Yeah, and just God just going

Yeah Cream pie a high-five name of the episode. Yep cream type. Yeah, that'd be a thank you but so what I do is I sit there and I don't know if this is right or wrong, but I put earplugs in Yeah, sure She was saying she was arguing we had an argument a couple weeks ago about well the point of meditation the way I learned it is um to just accept noises around you and to Observe it just like an incoming thought is to be able to kind of not invest in

Because you cannot always control your surroundings, right? If you're somebody who lives in the city and you need to meditate You need to be able to accept all that's happening. Yeah, but I can control my surroundings by putting earplugs in my fucking ear Yeah, okay, that works for you. Look, it's working obviously because you're dreaming. Yeah, so I who's who am I to say anything? Yeah, because I can see both I can see both I genuinely can Yes, so I put it I can see like what are the evidence? I can also be like, uh, you got to train yourself. You got to be able to like do that on your own

Maybe work your way up to that. Yeah. Yeah, maybe start doing one One and go insane. Yeah, you go absolutely crazy. I would go crazy. I would go crazy So I put it in my ear, right? And so I it's you can't hear anything because I use the um The waxy kind right it's just dig them in there and I sit there and I can hear my heartbeat first, right? And then creepy, right? It's pretty creepy. Yeah, and it's always fast. Yes, and you want to slow it down? Can't I know I can't it's years of those meth acid cocktails creeping up on you. This is what I hear. I go My heart beating, right?

So what I do is I breathe in I this is probably boring for for listeners, but I'm just this is the truth I'll tell you what it's not because there's some listeners right now taking away going. All right. I'm gonna try that Yeah, so I breathe in for like I count five seconds. Yeah, right I breathe out for five seconds and I even count it for a while Right and I focus on just the breath And the counting just so that and I also do this is because I can't hear It's usually I can feel some sort of wind or I the temperature in my arm I just and what I I notice that so that I can stay in the present moment

Yeah, I try to like, you know, you don't need to just feel what the temperature is on my skin Focusing focusing on my breathing and also doing the counting in the beginning so that I'm not thinking about Joe Rogan or Did I always think of Joe Rogan? Yeah. Yeah. You're supposed to have a mantras. Yeah. Yeah. His muscular eyes looking at me He has muscles in his eyes, by the way, because I talked to him like I think we all do I think he pushed steroids through his eyes balls because He was in the last week. He put me against the wall telling me about something with his eyes And he was his eyes were talking like this like

And flexing his fucking eyes were pushing Yeah, so I I I scored a god He's the first thought that goes in my head I don't know why I don't know why I don't think that is. I don't know. He's the first thought that So the Joe Rogan I I weed him out You know what I will as as strange as that sounds it probably is kind of comforting and formulaic to have This similar starting point all the time. It is like once you get past that you go and now we're in phase two

I bet it I bet it is good if phase one isn't different all the time If it was always different, you're like, yeah, I gotta figure this one out But if it's always Joe, like, all right, this is what I do Think about Joe Rogan and then I cycle to phase two I oh, yeah, there's also a second person sometimes I think about who walley wong. Okay. Oh, I get that If you listen to his radio show every day, yeah, so there's a guy I started with in San Diego named walley wong, right? and um He um was a comic. He's a chinese dude

And he was a comic for a very long time before me during the 80s and 90s And I did my in six months of doing comedy. I had I did a show called make me laugh on comedy central And when I was on the show because I was so new at doing comedy that I stole one of his jokes. Yeah Oh, all right. Yeah, and I did it on air. Yeah, and then I drove back to san diego and I told him about it Yeah, and he never liked me ever since. Yeah, you don't you say I'm gonna call me. Yeah, you talk beef. Is it that or is it more the impression? I don't talk like that bobby stop anyways when I talked to him. I would talk like that So I could he could relate and understand me. Yeah, so I that might be why he's upset. Yeah

But the thing is is that yes, I stole a joke from him, but I'm the fucking one that told him about it Yeah, yeah, I I was clear about it and trying to be a man about it and go I fucked up and then ever since then he's been a piece of shit about it fine. So I think about walley wong Yeah, but rogan's eyes first Jesus right and then walley wong Yeah, that guy right So then I can see it. I can see but I will say this good good for you For at least owning it. Thank you

But I think you got to accept like If he's like it seems like he should be over by now and who knows you guys could be like super close No, I refuse but but I mean but I mean in that world. There's like a world where he goes He emails you to Marnie. He goes, you know, I don't know why I've held on to this for so long I'm sorry. I would love that exactly. I would love that. I think that's what it is. Yeah Wow, rory. Yeah, I think you and I are gonna become friends. Let's get to phase three When do you think about me like when you're meditating? Okay, so I

I'm now I'm my surroundings. I'm breathing. I'm counting right. Yeah, but I get to the point counting up or down I know I'll go One two, three, four, five Holding and breathing out five friends, right? So then I do that. I feel the surroundings I do the thing right and then what I try to do now is then stop counting. Yeah, I just do it organically Yeah, all right, and then I start focusing on the breathing as well Yeah, right and and and this takes five minutes. Yes, right But then I get to a spot where I'm literally thinking about nothing. Yes, and I'm in a

It's like a hum It's a mental hum. Hold on. That's very good. You're not entering into like stage stages of sleep though, right like rem No, no, no rem you takes a while to get there, but I'm like, you're not no How do you get it to just go quiet then because because I for fun in here by He cheats. He's cheating I might be cheating but it works for me. I don't think there's any cheating if something works for you. Yeah, exactly Yeah, yeah, so then I get to the it is cheating where it's like Where my mind is going

Oh, right and that feels so good. Yeah, that makes me feel good. Sometimes I think of maybe a thing will pop up Like andro sentino or whatever, right face seven, but I'll just it's like a bubble Think of a bubble floating by you As a thought. Yes, and I pop it I really love that. So if it's if and I don't blame myself You know, you can't go if you think about like, oh, fuck. I hate it. You know that last star wars movie Right, and then and then you can't think after that. Why'd you think that you're meditating? You don't do that I just I didn't like that star. Fuck ryan johnson. Oh, they did the second one

Fuck ryan johnson and then pop and it is just let it flow by right every once. Well, but mainly it's In my mind, you know, and then after about eight 10 minutes I'll stand up. I'll go straight to the bed, but I hate it when she goes like that. She's sometimes I'll meditate And then she'll say something then the meditation is not worth it if the first if a word I say immediately you put the air on So after just listen, all right Then it was ineffective the fuck up. All right. I love you

All right, nothing Then right away you're like Hey, you know what? The light of me sees the light in you and I see the light. I can be better. I will be better You put the air on You're always there Yeah, yeah, I didn't even know that this rule existed

I didn't know that I wasn't supposed to say anything and until the other day when he just Like raged out when is he supposed to talk when he's supposed to talk never so after he meditates It's nothing more. I'm not allowed to speak anymore Nothing more exciting than a rage out right after a meditation Literally negating the whole process Yeah, I sorry But you know what I do. Yeah, yeah, because I rage out at his rage out. Yeah the way that I The way that I bring my rage down my rage of meter down is I put when he goes to bed

I put my hand on his back and I I feel his heartbeat and I say, okay That is a living breathing Vulnerable human and this could stop any minute. Yeah, and I love him and I'm okay Yeah, and this is why and I I I mean this Her answer is why women should be the leaders Because every you hear that and you're like, man, that's the right But his men were like, no Yeah, I don't care. Don't talk to me when I'm done

She's like, I give you life through your heart You're alive and I love and cherish I hope tomorrow you prosper and you're like get off my back That's exactly what he does actually. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah, and you're just eating a candy bar in bed. That's They're not as reactionary as men are just having a fifth avenue Why are you touching me? She's like, why do you eat those after meditating? I use who are you supporting? Um, people You know, I I am I don't like affiliating with any party

But there's no chance that I can go anywhere near republican right now that whole party in general Has changed in such a way where I'm like I like where is the foundation of just common decency and morals. So right now It's looking like Sanders, but I I really like Elizabeth Warren like when she Speaks, I believe it I believe Bernie Sanders too, but when she speaks, I believe it and also there's I I sense A greater leadership in her voice of saying this is what I'm saying and I'm saying it to you and I mean it and this is the thing Yeah, I also don't think she has

Uh, and I haven't done enough research, but I don't think she has any Checkered past outside of this like well, was she Native American which I would be like at the end of the day I'd be like, yeah, if she did that and you're telling me right now that that's going to be the worst thing That that would make her a saint like we would all be like, oh, that's crazy Why did you put that on your thing? But in the world of politics, you're like, are you Jesus? Because that being your only thing means there's nothing you never did anything. You know, it's so it's such a dirty thing Like I didn't I wasn't supporting anybody until last week during the debates when she she was feisty as fuck Because she knows her shit. Yeah, she knows her shit. And also it's like she's standing there in front of like mostly men, right?

and um, the way Shadda Klobuchar though. Shadda Klobuchar. She's great too, but um, look at that but um, but she mostly men she went after Bloomberg in the upfront So good and it was good. But you know what it is is that, you know, I just like when people are up against the wall And they fight Right and she came because she was dying her campaign campaign was dying and she's a survivor That's what she shows me. Yeah is a fighter and a survivor and she's not willing to quit. Yeah, and so For the first time in the last I don't know since obama

I donated money. Yeah, you know, yeah, great. You were mad that I did. No, I did it for you I thank you for donating the money I couldn't have been that mad. Thank you. But here's the thing. I gave my number and she was mad. I'm the one who did it and I told her we're doing it Oh, yeah, okay Uh, yeah, that's right. Okay hand on the heart hand on the heart. I cherish you. I hope you prosper Can I ask you guys something? Can I ask you guys something? Is is that I donated money and then I put my number there and this lady texted me here. Hi there

It's Nina with the warrant. Oh, they all do that. Is this Bobby? Yes. So what the fuck do I respond? No? No, you could be like, yeah, you could they're actually very conversational. Oh, they are just be like, yeah, let's let's do this thing Let's win. Let's do this. Whoo. So what yeah, I think let's get together. Let's come up with something together I okay. Okay. What do I say? I'll you know what? I will say whatever you tell me to say Have fun with it. My life is so simple. I would just be like, yeah, just right. Yes. This is Bobby Yes This is Bobby I'm gonna put it in my own flair ask her. Do you know the comedian rory scoville? No

Yes, but I'm gonna have this story too. Yeah, I'm gonna go wazz up What about was wazz up? Yeah, let's uh put a little bit of yourself in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Do you know rory scoville? Um, I'm gonna put that. Do you know? I would what if she's like hands down favorite comic? I'm like, can I get her number? Wait, who is she dude? Nina. Hey, Nina. This is weird Rory, I was with Bobby when you guys were chatting So, yes, this is she sends the money back

She goes, you know, we're actually really good with our campaign right now financially. We're like in a really good play I'm gonna send it. Okay. Yeah Yes, this is Bobby. What's up? Do you know rory scoville? I'm hanging out with him right now I can't just say that. I have to put I'm hanging out god. I hope to god I hope she is like, yes, right now. Wouldn't that be so fun? Oh my god And then it's so clear that automated response it's like in 2020 we will need to group together as people you're like, that's not Well, 2020 I need you and Rory. So it's not uh, so then you know, it's not this automated thing. Yeah. Yeah I hope she's been sitting there waiting for this reply the whole time

She's like, look at this motherfucker. I that was three days ago. Yeah. No, this is the last week, right? Left Nina on red Yeah, yeah, Nina's on red and she's like, okay. Uh, this guy's a dick You did a movie with Amy, right? That is correct. What was it called? I feel pretty I watched it at the movies. Oh nice niece and my sister. Yeah Oh, thank you. You were a more dreamy. Thank you. Oh, I'd never get that You like acting. What do you I mean like doing all of it or what do you prefer? I like all of it What I what I like the most because there's no barriers. There's no notes There's no one else in charge is stand-up. It's the most gratifying

In the quickest way Where you can also have nothing and be like, I'm gonna go out there for 10 minutes because I just need to like talk You know our disease. Yeah It is it. Yeah, and you're like, oh, I can go out there and if this 10 minutes is fun I get a little drug and it feels good and whatever. Yeah, but there's the other I I like acting I like the I don't know that I've been in anything where someone would go. Wow. That was a really challenging role That hasn't happened yet, but I would love to see

Uh, if I am if I can rise to that occasion, I would love something that That isn't a character that is Basically myself or you know something that's obviously very comical, but rory. It's so fucking difficult To get these kind of jobs. I know that it's obvious. I know that you have I've made gift and the talent to do it. I appreciate that. Thank you. You know, you do all I'm willing to say all of the Stuff that I have gotten not all of it, but a lot of it has come from comedians Like my first thing one of my first things was being on bo bernum show On mtv when it was zack stone is going to be famous

I had that because he was like, hey, we don't know each other that well But I think you're funny and come in and read and let's try to see if it and it was him pushing for me And then bill laurence making ground floor. It was him going I've seen you do stand-up So just come in and we're going to try to make this work literally everybody just going Uh, and I'm not saying this in a braggy way. I'm saying comics always are like helping Making comics. I feel pretty that that was a role that was happening For someone and then they couldn't do it and they amy was like Oh, let's let's see if rory wants to do it. Yeah. Yeah, and then they were like, okay, great

And I think they were their backs were against the wall time wise That they were like, okay, great. And if he's horrible, we'll cut around it I truly think they thought that yeah, yeah, and then they just ended up working, but it's always a comedian And that's like, hey, hey, what about rory or let's a rory. Do you want to do this? And it's I could name so many other the growlix guys from denver adam and andrew and ben like A lot of the stuff I've gotten to do It's comedians helping me out Getting it. So a lot of auditions and yes, I've been cast off of some auditions, but I'm not good at auditioning

And I go in there and I'm not good at like in that moment mega pretending like I don't be like that's acting But in those settings, I'm like, this feels very forced. Yeah, and if someone said Bobby goes right now do five minutes or like, but the energy isn't in the same place as I need it to do the thing Yes, I need the audience to be here. And if even it was four people in the audience There's a dynamic. There's a feng shui. There's a chemistry and an energy and I think with acting, you know, maybe that's just something I have to get over but That that literally building a character and really stepping into something. I would love that Challenge and get to try that. Yeah, I shot a show for comedy central

We have eight episodes of a show that we're trying to get there out there into the world for people to see that I really love I got to like wait, wait Be this character for an episode with Comedy Central's did it. They they shot it. They made it so they're not gonna release it They're not releasing it. So we're trying to figure out why I'm gonna go. They who knows this summer. Maybe they they will I don't know. We don't know where it where it's gonna go. It's not necessarily their tone of a show It's very grounded. Yeah, and a little more subtle, which is fine. Yeah, but uh, it could end up on a streaming service I hope it ends up somewhere, but I will say that was like a huge lesson in Hey, you're this guy. You're the guy in the thing

We're gonna shoot eight episodes. So you're here every day Monday to Friday for 12. You go through that and you go this is satisfying I love watching those episodes and then you step back and you go, you know, also doing an hour of stand-up is also super great Yeah, yeah, that is great. It's people like, oh, you gotta fly to places you do that and you're like Yeah, but you know like this weekend. I'm flying to Nashville. It's like Sainese. Yeah, you fly to Nashville. Super fun. Yeah, and then someone's like, yeah So just hate to bug you But could you just talk for one hour each night and you're like, I guess so

It's acting. It's like you're gonna be here for 12 hours Yeah, it's also an hour in front of people that love you that are into it and also and also If it fucking tanks the needle doesn't really move I know what I mean. You slaughter the needles not moving you bomb. It's not moving. No one cares You know in my life the most gratifying thing has been Yeah, I was just in Chicago and I did Schomburg and you know after the shows a couple of times I did just a meet and greet and everyone stayed. Yeah, and um I honestly thought for the first time in my life. I went if this is it. This is it. Yeah, it's good

It's not really good. It's like people looking at me and and just going. Thank you for doing this Thank you for doing and also being able to hug them and shoot the shit for a brief second, you know, and It just makes me feel like um, this wasn't a fucking waste, right? Yeah, well all of them are looking and they're like, hey, you know that thing that is like you that like little unique thing that you're kind of like Hey, here it is. I'm this weird thing and I do this. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're vulnerable You're letting out there that crowd of people going no, we get it. We like it and they also and how you're like Oh, cool. That's great. And they also kind of dress the same and they have the same kind of like energy as well It's like you're fucking people. Yes. It really is and you know, it's because

Of also, I mean, I always had like a mad tv fan base. Here we go. Eight years. Eight years. Eight years. Here we go. But But you know, I would because of that I I would fill half of a room Sure, but this thing this podcast has like filled up my rooms. I've sold out the rooms and yeah So anyone listening right now. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much And also I would just like to interject if you guys want to start filling up my rooms That would be the best. I would love my rooms to be filled Yeah, but you're already in this is airing after your adzanis, but what's your future dates? Give me some future dates

Come on down to the comedy closet in Columbia, South Carolina. Also our tool dates. We're doing Spokane March 8th Yeah, we're doing Portland March 10th. Yeah, we're doing Boise Fun March 13th. Yeah Salt Lake City March 15th, and it's only those four dates When you guys when you guys do future tool things is I hate to ask Do it ask. I don't want to have to do your show, but is there anywhere I could fly to the town Yes, and get to go see a show. Yes a tool show. Yes. No being real. Yes, but you have to do our show

I'll do your show as well. Yeah. Can we go to the Boise one? I've always wanted to go to Boise Super insulting. We're like you will em see our show No, no listen, bro, but it gets worse. I'm like you will soundcheck our show You will carry our merch you'll carry our merch you will work Just let me do a spot. Why are you being like, yeah, no, I I honestly want to see I mean, obviously they're amazing lives. Yes, right. Yeah, it's great I honestly am a huge fan of the but here's another reason why just I because I was gonna say this earlier Is I was listening to a tool song and then he did a bill Hicks reference. Yeah. Well their album Anima is

dedicated to him in many aspects I think really literal aspects, but his voice is on um The last track of that album third eye third eye Yeah, because he says that's a mention of Arizona Bay or whatever. I'm like that and that reference is in Anima the song Which is about you know, there's a bill Hicks album. Yeah, wow

They were they were a bill Hicks fans. They were they're they're comedy fans That's why this union of what you know, this idea of being like, let's follow them. It's not so out of Nowhere like there was always this rumor that bill Hicks and tool back in the 90s We're gonna like tour together And then some people think that they did but the band was like, no, that's a rumor. We never did but you know They they definitely knew each other. My god. Yeah, that would have been incredible one of the greatest shows ever Yeah on planet earth Bill Hicks and tool. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah

Goosebumps. Yeah, you're meditating right now. Um Just shut the fuck up after I'm done. Okay, babe. Joe. Okay Yeah, but now you know as soon as he's done meditating you should be like Joe Instantly it was all for nothing Instantly, he's like, I don't even remember. I don't even remember the meditation now. Now I'm not calm I'm gonna whisper that as you sleep. Wally. Wally Muscular eyeballs Joe, huh

So at the end of our podcast what we do is um, we do a thing called um unhelpful advice, right? So we have people email us and um, they ask us questions and we try to answer them for them I love them and they don't it doesn't have to be helpful. Yeah. Well, it shouldn't be right. We're not we can't be some Okay, they're suicidal. Oh, yeah You don't want anyone to look curveball right here. Oh, yeah, I'd like to add up straight Yeah, okay, here comes. Unhelpful advice with Bobby Kalila and Rory Scoville Uh, would you like a serious one or a lighter one? Interesting. Let's go serious. Let's go. Oh, I was gonna say the opposite. Okay. Let's go serious first

My question is about your creative process and dealing with rejection I'm a fiction writer that has yet to be published in a real fiction magazine. I'm also an addict Back in college for a couple of years I wrote stories frequently and productively that were generally well received which turned uh, doubt to bolster my confidence and creativity Two years after graduation when I started receiving rejection after rejection after rejection by publishers I began to lose confidence and became hyper critical of my work like you Bobby I've always over-analyzed situations and crucify myself internally I've reached to the point where I can't even write a paragraph without a voice in the back of my head criticizing

Every word. I know that opiates are demons and they aren't making me better as a writer whatsoever Yet, I don't know how to regain my swagger and write about without over-analyzing my work My question is as an artist who is also who is also far too critical of your own work and and an addict How do you shut up the thoughts and doubt in your head? Oh my god, it's like you talking about the meditation answered this question Chicken or the egg that's what just happened right now My honest answer is just you can't live in the results number one You know a lot of times I do things and I go what is it going to get me?

Why isn't this not happening? You know me and it's just like you just do the fucking work Exactly what you said earlier about the bands like the velvet underground making music because that's what they wanted to make Yes, not because they were looking for an end game Yeah, yeah the velvet underground's first album the the banana one with the Andy Warhol one sold 500 copies And um, but there's a legend in a rumor saying that the 500 copies that they sold everyone that bought that album started a band Yeah, right, so they didn't have financial success based on now. It's obviously it's over the years. It's made money, but um You know that album Influenced a lot of people but you know in the big, you know in new york back then back in the factory day

They probably didn't look like even no one probably even mentioned it, right? They probably thought it was like a failure. Maybe sure, you know, so it's like for me. It's like, you know You know when we worry and I first started doing stand-up we got we were best friends We were besties man. We were absolute besties and then bobby goes promise me this For a super long time. We'll pretend like we don't And then I'll have you on my podcast and I go what is a podcast I guess even I don't know yet Even I don't yeah, but you remember back then doing it. It's like you didn't you know, you would sign up You sometimes you would go up late. No audience, right?

And you did that night after night and you never I honestly swear to god Back then I would do shows and think to myself. I'm probably never gonna make it. There's I can't see I don't know how to get an aid. I don't know anything about it. You know, I mean, I'm just there's no one in the audience They'll give me three minutes How but you know what you I did it Because by performing it gave me like a little an adrenaline rush. Yeah And it also was the first thing where I did that I did that was brave Yeah, because I was such a coward growing up and just kind of scared and shy and it was and I was proud of myself

That every night I could just go up there and make a fool of myself and that alone I could have just done that for the rest of my life, but fortunately I created a career off of it, you know, right but I but I To sort of like go off of that answer That that early that that first like three years is probably the best it ever is and you don't know it You don't know it at the time how good it is

But you're but also it's because you're not clouded by fame or fortune because no part of you has any concept that that will ever Happen and not that that you want it to happen, but you don't even think that that's like a thing You just are like, oh, I discovered the sort of underground world of comics going on stage in these places But also it probably felt so good because ultimately That was probably your first introduction of who you are and ultimately will become Whereas you were like perceiving yourself to be this person Then you did this thing and it was almost like you were saying or something. Oh, there I am. That's what I do This is what I do. You literally almost I almost mj'd it right now. Yeah

Because think about how you got good at it like if if that wasn't who you were and what just your thing You wouldn't be sitting here. You wouldn't have gotten this far, you know, I think I think we both know that You you can't really in stand-up. I don't think you can really fake it You know what? I mean like there are but like when people were like, oh that person steals jokes Most comics are like, well, I hope they don't steal my jokes, but you're not gonna get very far Doing that like it's There was a time when you were offended and you want to kill them Why then there was a time when you were like, oh, you just you will either learn to not do

I mean that you though your first time going on stage you need a joke You stole a joke and think how quickly you were like, oh, that wasn't the right thing. I got to clean up this mess Yeah, but there's some people who go well. No, it's working. So I'll just keep doing it and you go Oh, you don't even understand what the pure thing of it is because you're not supposed to be doing this No, it's not for you. It's like in the beginning. I thought that jokes was gonna it's not the jokes I know Me being authentically myself. It's you. Yeah. No one is paying for the jokes. Exactly. They don't care about the jokes I can I I can really relate to this person because I think that

Not being an addict, but somebody who has had a lot of like abuse in my life abuse Turns into perfectionism. So For me, I had to reframe the idea of rejection or abuse and not take it as Um, not render me paralyzed basically So if there's a way for you to sort of reframe that rejection and not really see it as a rejection rather than like Okay, this is just all part of the process Because what happens with me is that I never fully follow through with a lot of things in my life because

You know, I was beat constantly by my mom for the tiniest thing for the tiniest error And I don't know if that's a part of his history But when I go to therapy, that's something that I constantly struggle with is to be able to take a negative And not feel not have it feel like an attack. Yeah to my being Yeah, so to kind of change it so that it lands a little softer on me So that it feels like fuel rather than a reason to go hide in a hole somewhere. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I think that uh Um, the rejection thing I don't think there is this world where that ends

I don't think it ends. I think you write what's good and and like you said, you're not you can't worry about the results I think that's a great point. I right now. I'm sitting in An abyss of rejection where I've made this documentary and I don't know if anyone's going to buy it And I actually think it's very good I've made this tv show that I don't know if anyone will ever see it and I actually think it's pretty good My first habit like doing a tv show Uh, I've written this other thing and all these things Are three plus years two to three years of like

Putting these things together making them. I've written this other thing that I think would be so fun as like a comedy special And no one is biting on it But saying this is a good script and I'm uh, so I'm in this point of going well What is what do I do if I create stuff? Like why would I create it if I can't push it past Right the next thing and so I am myself similar and I also wrote this letter under a pseudonym James James scoville I

Anyway, you're so right though because let's suppose publishers did bite what he's written. Yes The rejection doesn't end there. You still have you could be rejected by the public You could be rejected by critics. You could be rejected the whole way through till the very end is one giant rejection I I I think I am I'm trying to figure out Because it's not me This this will make sense. It's not me, but I'm trying to figure out how to be More this hunter s. Thompson of this is what I fucking wrote now fucking read it And even if you like it fuck off. Yeah, I let that I love that

But and it's not me. That's not who I am right, but I'm trying to somewhat absorb this element of like Just make the fucking thing and get it out there in some way As opposed to me looking at This show as the end game of like that'll be the jumping point. What if it's not? What if it what if no one ever sees it and one day Viacom's like, you know, you can just put it on youtube. It's what I then go We'll know it deserved this better home or would I go? Yeah, I just want people to see it So maybe it leads to the next thing or people go. Hey, I enjoyed that and you go. Yeah, I wish we made more

But hey, you know Follow me. I I'm gonna make more stuff. If you do like it. I might give you more product that you like right and the documentary It's like all the it's all this same Stuff of just trying to figure out You know, how do what do you do with ideas and where do you put them because I I'm no longer in a position of Caring so much about money and the fame that I've been around like adjacent to I haven't even liked being adjacent to it. So I myself have learned because when you start out as like a stand-up While you're not ever thinking fame and fortune when things start rolling, you're like, oh man, maybe I'll be famous

Oh man, maybe I'll be like rich. Yeah, but then you I think you get to a point where Those things start to mean something to you where you go. Oh, I oh now that I've seen How famous people live and what they have to put up with because I don't envy that life Yeah, yeah, and having a lot of money I I wouldn't money is great and I would gladly take more but I think at this point I like how much I have I would almost take more to be like, all right Let's put it into some stuff that like donating to a campaign and like other stuff on different where you just go Yeah, okay, I don't want it for self-serving purposes because that doesn't I don't think that's what I want to do or how I want to be

Um, yeah, I don't know. It's it's the I don't think the rejection stops I think you have to figure out who you are what you want to be And then you just make it. I mean being right being a writer is tough But there's also a world where There's people online you look up publishers and they're like, yeah, we'll publish stuff We're not paying one books or whatever. But yeah, you you want to make a book? I know so many people that have written a book that should not have written a book And they have it in their hands

Hand it to you. Yeah, and you're like, how did you do this and they're almost like Well, I'm not great at writing books, but I am great at knowing how to print out the books and make the books and give the books away And you almost want to be like, oh, you really want to be a writer when you should be a publisher But then in this instance, here's a writer and it's like, hey, you you're not so lucky that you get to just be a writer You have to be a little bit of a business person and a publisher and like you know Car, you know, you make your own path knowing it may go nowhere. It's that's what art If that's the that's the beauty and the sadness of art

It may go nowhere. But what would you rather would you rather not made it? Yeah, yeah, does it spark a joy? Marie Kondo says all right You know my my does it spark spark a joy? My brother when you say it very like the word is spaca Does it does it spark a joy? My brother's um neighbor Greg just did a documentary. Oh god. I thought I'm okay. Go ahead. Yeah, my brother's neighbor

um Craig did a documentary about an artist in cleveland. He's like an 80 year old man and he never Showed his artwork to anybody Yeah, right and he's just been painting all his whole life. Yes Yeah, he did four pieces a year and each piece is a masterpiece. Yes, right and At first when I saw the documentary I felt really sad that like, you know This guy, you know, no one appreciated his work and he didn't make any money off of it. What a fucking scandal Yeah, but when you hear the guy talk, he's just like no, I just needed to do this

Yeah, and then you were like, oh never mind. He succeeded. Yes, because he didn't care if anyone liked it or saw it. Yes Yeah, that's our disease stand up. You can't do stand-up by yourself I know our dependence Is crippling Hey, rory, I just want to say man. I honestly like I didn't you know You know, we would say hi to each other, but I didn't know you that not me Just so all the listeners go bobby would say hi and I go fuck off, dude I'm busy right now. You're fucking dude. You're you're full of depth, dude. And you know what I mean? You're a good dude and um

This is incredible. You were incredible to have on this podcast. Thank you. Yeah, this was so fun. I really really appreciate it, man And thank you so much for doing and appreciate it, man. Hell yeah, dude. Yeah You know, honestly, it just spaka enjoyed for me. Spaka joy. Give him a round of applause Check out roryschool.com for all his tour dates. Oh, yeah Bump. A bump a bump a bump bump a bump. A bump bump a bump a bump bump bump a bump bump bump bump bump rehearsal Housekeeping with george kimmel belly. Guys make sure you see the slept king. I've I believe. He was in just shot Uh chicago not too long ago

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