TigerBelly - Ep 253: Joey Santiago (Pixies) and the Birds Nest

Episode Date: July 8, 2020

Bobby plays the Metaphor Cafe. Joey flees the tortilla. Khalyla won't invite Bobby to the show. We talk Krakatoa, tinfoil, forgetting Debaser, and finding Kim Deal from a want-ad.www.patreon.com/tigerbelly  Please support our sponsorsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Or that's you want to start yeah, let's do it all right. It's hot in here, huh? It's hot, but that's why we're gonna figure out a way to do this We're gonna get it. Yeah, Eric. Eric. Yeah, we are we're gonna get a duck list. I'm sweating. Yeah Four three two one Everybody want to have a good time? Everyone about it want to do it good Everybody is here together for the sunshine Everybody

Yeah, welcome to another episode of Welcome to another episode of Tiger Billy Wow Oh, man, this is the second time we're having it in this garage. It's pretty fucking hot It's like a sweatshop. It's like a sweatshop in here, you know, and I I know about sweatshops. Oh, yeah What about them? North Korea, they have them. Hmm. Yeah, Kathy Lee Gifford She remember she she had some she went over there. No, she had some in China or something. Oh Oh, anyway, but they all do like Bangladesh all of those the Philippines. Oh, I love the Bangladesh people

What do you know about them? Well, I was playing on Warzone. Yeah, and this guy goes I'm from Bangladesh and then like his movement even in the game was very Bangladeshi It's that it's a good thing, right? It's a really good. Yeah, it's very good. Yeah, very like Secretive mmm. Yeah, and very sneaky and dead silence dead silence. Thank you We've got George in the room this fucking beautiful white piece of shit When it comes to white students man, you're you're the top of the game I I please look at his the yin and yang on his shirt as if one wasn't enough to three and three He said he wears it for every Asia in the room. Yeah, and he's getting married to an Asian. So you need five. So you need five fun

We have this guy right here. This guy's bullshit, man We play Warzone so and then and then he goes I gotta leave I Have to leave no at a Tiger Valley podcast. You never leave. We got my beautiful. What is this talk about Bangladesh? These were not made in Bangladesh. Yeah, what the fuck is this? These are fair trade pants leave them alone This is not Bangladeshi young babies making this pants. This is like if you pulled something out of Liberace's asshole, this would come out Or Ellen John, it's like a little surprise. We got a beautiful my beautiful girlfriend here Kalaila and Seven years deep eight years almost deep. Yeah

I'm not almost eight years. We're barely hitting seven. Yes, seven and I have my Arsenal FC fucking coffee cup. It's leaking. But is it? Yeah, it's cracked in the bottom. Oh, it is fuck. Oh, anyway, um Not like the team though. They're strong. Let's not be rude. Yeah, let's not be fucking rude. Yeah, all right We got a fucking gas. All right. Yeah, let's Guess athlete and I this is the longest introduction I'm ever for a fucking introduction because you have to understand that like You know when I was a kid My cousin Paul I've talked about my cousin Paul before right and he would I was a kid and he would go

He would tell me what the great band like music Great music was all right, so he introduced me to the Beatles You know when I was younger and then we got into like Roxy music and the Velvet Underground and then like, you know The CBGB bands like television, you know, Blondie talking heads that era and then But then in the 80s, you know, I mean we talked about Sonic youth was it was a bit. I love the album daydream nation is a great album and But I had this obsession with this band called the pixies now, um, I

Won't get a cry. Oh You're crying. I'm gonna cry. Um, I remember there was a a mini mall in Rancho Bernardo where I grew up This is probably 89 90 in 1990 and I remember I got cassette tapes of um, um do little and surfer Rosa and also the EP I believe and You told me not And um, I remember listening to that those albums just on repeat I just thought wow, man, this is this music and this is before like Nirvana, right? You know, it's like, you know When a song starts real silent and then you hit them, you know, I mean with the fucking, you know

Do that again. You just you know, it goes With the fucking music right and so then Cut to maybe You know, I got six months ago seven months ago. I I ran into this dude, right? And I and I in my once I saw this dude. Just shut up. Shut up, babe Just let me say it, right when I saw this dude our guest today, right? It was immediate like like holy fuck. You know what I mean?

There he is That's the guy. I remember remember I told you I came home when I told him exactly what you told me when you came Yeah, how long ago is this? Six seven months ago. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah, and then but then when I met him, I pretended that I didn't know who he was classic Bobby It's called shadow games right here shadow play shadow games, okay? And then but then as soon as he mentioned that oh, yeah, you're a comedian, right? Then I was just like, oh, but you're Joey Santiago, you're me from the pixie, right? So I did that whole foolish, you know

social thing, right? but but him and I have become friends and And I just immediately thought I got to get him on Tiger belly, but I didn't want to you know Have him as a guest on the via zoom. So now that we have this new space. I invited him He said yes, and this is very exciting. So we have give him a round of applause for Joey Santiago And he's the guitarist of one of my favorite bands of all time the pixies. Hello Joey. Hello Um, Joey, um, you know, you're gonna get a lot of crap because you say the that you put the article there But we do not care. We it was it's so stupid why we called ourselves pixies

Oh, it's not the pixies. Are you even a fan, Bobby? I say I say the pixies. Yeah, we're through with it. I mean Ever since we did that that was our that was a mistake. Yeah Yeah Wow, because bands at that time weren't doing that the thing, you know, I think the the made fun of it But they were like, you know, these bands that didn't have the on them anymore. Yeah So who came up with the fucking title pixies? I did. Yeah. Did you really? Yeah, wait So let me get this straight. Okay. I because I didn't really Wikipedia, but let me make an assumption

Okay, let me make me throw some stuff out Boston mid-80s College mm-hmm. Were you in college? I dropped out at UMass and UMass Amherst UMass, right? Mm-hmm, which was a song on Trump LeMond. Yep. See okay Real fan and so how did you meet black Frank black? Oh, yeah, yeah, Charles. I met him and my god. Okay, it's okay the Charles

I met him. He was my like roommate sweet mate, you know, we had sweets in the And this dorm. Yeah, sweet. So everyone had a bedroom common bathroom. Yeah, and I met him there and And yeah, he had a guitar and I didn't want my guitar there because I wanted good grades You know, yeah, so instead I did a bunch of masculine and I drank a lot and I and Man, and I started playing tennis for some reason Like I thought I was I actually joined the open the Amherst open thinking I was really good Wow, I sucked. I mean, I didn't return one serve And the guy the guy was just

You know, hey, it's the open sorry right you slept in the same Area with with Charles. Yes. It's a weird way to ask it. You slept in the same area. No My room and then Another room and then his room his room, right? So you said that's what I'm saying He wants to know the sleeping configuration Yeah, oh, so I just assumed they were sleeping in the same room like bunk bed, but they had different up like Apartment not apartments, but rooms. Yeah, they were different rooms So then when you how does that come about that conversation like hey, play me something or I mean, I was just relieved when I was going to college

I I had this big fear that I was gonna be amongst jocks and And I was gonna be petrified like, you know, yeah It's like oh no, you know, but I thank God. Thank God that you met him. Yeah. Yeah, they must have you know We had a computer science geek My roommate was Still in love with this Her height is you know, she's still in high school. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know played that air supply song

All the time All out of love. Oh my god. I love air supply air supply is like the biggest Still the biggest band in the Philippines. Yeah, well, he listened to it I'm telling you. Yeah. And and then when it's when one night He came back I go, that's it and I put on I put on Iggy Pop You know, yeah, and it's like time to get out of this Yeah, yeah, yeah, so then did you guys didn't you and Charles just start playing together? Is that what how it happened? No, he's I didn't bring it till

Yeah, I went home and then I grabbed my guitar, right his he was playing with his roommate too So he had a guitar He was good, but he was like playing like the bluesy stuff, right top of it. Yeah, and You know, I just thought like I don't know about that. Yeah, you know, so your influences like you just said Iggy Pop So like the same shit that I was probably listening. Yeah. Yeah, the MC five maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So safe to say you were in a flan of air supply Um, how unfilipino of you? No But you're you were raised in the Phillip. Were you born in the Philippines? I left when I was seven. Ah

Yeah, she's Filipino. Yes. Yeah, you know that what island did you grow up in raised in I? Was born in Manila, well, you know, St. Joseph's that might be in case on city Yeah, that was Santa Tomas Santa Tomas and then yeah, my my Uncles I guess, you know, we had a rice mill in Bulacan Yeah, but so when you were growing up you moved here when you were seven did you go back often or did you just only once

For a medical mission That my mother-in-law Ran a medical mission. What does that mean? Like you go on and let me just guess. I don't know much Let me guess. All right You're a medicine man. Let's say I was a medicine man. Okay, and I would go out on a mission right to help Impoverished people who couldn't afford

medical Diagnosis is is right and I that's is that what is that what a medical mission is? Yeah, it was for the people that the for the I ate us. They were in a tribe Yeah, they were like the aborigines of the Philippines and they were displaced by Mount Pinatubo So we did that just make that up Mount Pinatubo was the largest explosion volcanic eruption Oh I think it was even bigger than like Krakatoa like the That sounds like a creature from Clash of the Titan Bobby name another one you guys

Kraken the Kraken to You don't remember Mount Pinatubo Was I ever at Mont Blanc de Bordeaux? No, because the ashes made it all it all the way to America That's how big the explosion. Oh, that's what those ashes was. Yeah in the Philippines. You had a lot of like Lahar like a lot of the neighboring areas like in Fampanga became basically this giant sludge Yeah, it was really sad. You know what? Sorry guys. I ain't no fucking flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip You know, you guys are have the history and I don't know much about it I don't know much about the Philippines either when people give me the current events. I don't follow it

Yeah, for some reason. I love the Philippines and when I go to Philippines, I love going to the resorts Yeah, you know Crimson I went to the Crimson and the other one that you haven't been to is the Shangri-La Shangri-La That's the one. Yeah Shangri-La. Yeah. Yeah Shangri-La Shangri-La Shangri-La. That's the one. I want to go to a Shangri-La hotel Yeah, yeah. Yep. I've been there. No, really? I had the birds nest soup in there Did you really? I did. Oh, wow What the fuck is birds nest soup? Take a guess. What's a bird? I'll guess what birds. All right, so a bird, right? They have to because we had one at the house. Yeah, they need a place to sleep sleeping arrange and they're you know

You know, Eskimos have igloos. Yep, right Indians have TPs back in the day, right? Yeah, but a bird has a nest. Yeah, correct And what they do is they they let the bird leave because I'm gonna eat the fucking bird. That's fucking rude That's disgusting, right? And they'll just take their house stick it in boiling water right put salt and paprika

Right and maybe some garlic and so you're getting is that it? Hold on. So you think that you're putting twigs Just random twigs, but what you don't get is is in water by living there His essence and his nutrients seep into the actual nest. So it's just not the twigs It's like absorbed with minerals and Not too far off. It's saliva. Yeah, it's a saliva. It's not. Oh You know what you ate, you know, I had no idea When you when you go there my aunt ordered it, you have to eat it. Oh Or you're disrespectful. No, you do have like like, you know one day

I didn't feel like having balloon. Yeah, but my my godfather He goes, we're gonna get it. It's like Yeah, you know, so eat it. Well, we went to shaky's first. Yes, of course Of course and and then I ate the balloon and I was Chicky's pizza shaky's pizza in the Philippines is the best I didn't know that was a thing there. It was it's our thing like well I wouldn't say it's the best, but I'm just saying it's the best that we have Back home. So you had shaky's pizza. Mm-hmm. And afterwards you as a dessert. Yeah, you had a

Bird bird baby an embryo. Yeah, an embryo. Uh-huh. And it did when you opened it up. Did you see it's a little? You know, I mean baby eyes. I used to love it as a kid. Mm-hmm. I did my my big bro, my Uh, brother was older to me Manny. He took it apart one day in the thing and you could see it the feathers the feathers and stuff and I didn't care. I just like it's good. It is good. It is good You know, it tastes like chicken soup. Look at that. All the vegetarians are gonna Know you're gonna be fine. You're gonna be fine. So so you move so let's fuck pollute fuck the nest All right, you ate it as a baby at seven years old you move to Boston yonkers yonkers Massachusetts New York, New York

Okay, I like the way you said Matatouche Right, I have never been able to say it right sounds like a dish. We said Matatouche sis. Yeah, how do you say it? Massachusetts, that's good enough. I think I literally have never been able to say it. I See Boston mass. Just say Matt. That's what I yeah mass mass mass mass Let me just Boston Massachusetts Fuck you One more shot. Yeah, they say it again

Massachusetts Massachusetts, yes, you got it Mitt Romney couldn't pronounce it Really? Yeah, he said I think he said massacoustic Yeah, well then I don't feel bad. Yeah, so you could so then because I know a little bit about your your childhood mm-hmm because we've talked, you know, and I Feel like you were raised similar to me in terms of having you know a strict dad Mm-hmm, because I've always wondered like what drives somebody

You know, so you know when you have a A strict environment and sometimes a little violent, you know in my case, right? I poured all my energy into like Doing creative things, you know, I mean and I feel like that Without that upbringing, right that I might have not done that all the things that I was willing to do You know to do comedy or what or whatnot, you know So I've always been like curious about that up about people's past and whatnot So, you know, do you think so your dad was strict? Yes

Yeah, what way though like I was just very very strict. Yeah, let's put it that way. Yeah Wouldn't get you shit. What do you mean? Like we like if I asked my dad for like, you know, a Sega not Sega Genesis, but like whatever the Nintendo and Nintendo back then you go, no, you know, do your homework Was it like that? Hmm, was it correct? If it wasn't up to him, would you know, we probably wouldn't have any, you know Gift Christmas gifts or anything. We never celebrate birthdays or anything, right? You know, it was just it was just a thing Yeah, I never thought about it until I went over people's homes and they were celebrating and like

They put on an act for me Yeah, or they're showing off or you watch something on TV where it's like Wait, did you grow up Jehovah's Witness? No You didn't have birthdays or Christmas just just cuz oh No, we did have those but it wasn't like celebrated like, you know, what white people would do like other people Oh, when they go like a baby's a year old and they have like, you know, the entire no, it's more like Happy birthday. Happy birthday. And then he'd slide an envelope with a hundred dollar bill. I see that's what my dad would do No cake. No cake. Yeah. Yeah, he wouldn't go out of his way to sing a tune

You know, I mean, yeah, and to put on it like some sort of production Mine would be socks. Give me Your dad would give you socks sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, but when did the guitar happen? That wasn't until we moved to Massachusetts My brother had a my older brother had it up on his wall and I took it down and I tuned it How old are you? Like around 12 Wow, you know, yeah, did you have like it was a radio shack acoustic guitar? Wow, that's what he told me

Yeah, and so you did you just learn on your own or did somebody sit pretty much pretty much I tuned it with the we had an organ downstairs like everybody had an organ. Yeah back then. Yeah back then, you know and So, you know, I just learned how to do that and you never need to ask your parents. Could I take lessons? I I did I took them for a little while, but then I just wasn't that disciplined Then I learned bar chords and that was it then I go like I don't I don't need this Yeah, yeah, yeah, were any of your family members or your mom and dad like musical my

my father played You know the same song all the time and What song was it? I don't even know. Oh, don't know but it was It's a Filipino song. It's a Filipino thing on the Oregon on the Oregon. All right. Yeah, it was beautiful All right, but take a guess Gilbert take a guess. It was a lot of Filipino dads know a device. No, that's a German song Wow, that's good. Thank you. I thought you were gonna say like Freddy Aguilar like a knock knock probably That's what a lot of people do. Yeah

So, um, and my grandfather was played piano too. Oh, so if there is there's always that like when my dad People go, well, he was strict on whatnot, but my dad and my mom my mom is very funny But not just accidentally funny. She's purposely funny in terms of timing and stuff So I just feel like it comes more from her, but my dad would do real clever fart jokes What's a clever fart joke? Just like when you're sleeping You know, I never thought you know when you fart on somebody. Yeah, usually generally awake Uh-huh. You know me but like my dad would and you he would you know Maybe fathers would fart on their children through the underwear and pants. My dad would pull it down bare-ass it

Yeah, yeah, so you get debris the not just debris, but The way the way the wind you could you know me feel it, right? So and then he would go I got you. You know me that kind of your thing. So I learned that kind of comedy from him But the timing from my mom, right? But I don't you know, it comes from somewhere I also think that Filipinos I've said this before Filipinos and Koreans are similar when it comes to Comedy humor because look at the the funniest I

Mean, I don't want to get in trouble here Because I know the climate we're fucking in Right, but this I'm just throwing up factual things for a while. It was just in the comedy scene It was generally Filipino dudes and Korean people, you know, and you would see maybe one Japanese person or one Chinese Descendant person but generally you could rattle off 20 Korean comics and 20 Filipino comics in the scene. I just think it has to do with Culture, you know, yeah, or it's very similar. So when you I want to go back now to the pixies. So when you

Were with Charles, how did Lovering what's his name Dave Lovering? That's what I said. Mm-hmm. You did lovering. Yeah, he's a magician. Mm-hmm, right? Yes, so Dave Lovering. He's the drummer of the pixies Mm-hmm, and how did Kim deal? How did that happen? Yeah, we took an ad out on the paper The Boston Phoenix at the time. Wow. Yeah, like wanted bassist and drummer. Yeah, it's like a We asked Charles asked, you know, wanted female bassist

Influences Husker do and Peter Paul Mary. That's it Husker do and Peter Paul and Mary. Yeah, wow, we're weeding them out Yeah, so we had one one one response. I was it that was Kim Kim and then we loved their instantly Wow. Yeah, and then how did Dave Lovering get in Dave Lovering was He went to their wedding Kim deals and is and John's wedding John worked with David at Radio Shack. Wow. Yeah, and and and he goes like why don't you have him come in? He came in played the drum machine a bit left and You know and then we tried out one other guy we played with him and he just he was just so

He was late tardy sometimes didn't show up. Ah, and I said, what about Dave? You know, yeah, and he goes I didn't see much and I said he was he just he was high as a kite, you know Yeah, and I knew it and and and we call him he was excited about I knew he had that he had the chops I mean he was just playing these drum machines patterns. It's like wow. Oh my god That dudes got it. I mean, he's you know because drummers are like back then were trained with just pads You know, ah, Radham cues and all this stuff and now, you know, most of them just go right on the kit Right, you know, but you got to know your interest that you said I think a lot of it has to do with probably You know being disciplined enough to practice and get together you need reliable people

That's what I feel like that you had that with we did we had a good work ethic. Yeah, because there's no because you guys rose Pretty you were young. Are you rose pretty quickly? No? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that you know 21, you know We still we played our first gig. I don't think I was even old enough to Get into the club yet. We had to pretend. Yeah, I wasn't 21 yet Was it original music you guys were doing at the club? Yeah. Yeah, it was Wow. It was it was 20 minutes or something. Yeah first. So then oh you guys practice, right? And then you know, I mean you're you're collecting original music because I don't know how I don't know how it works

I don't know how well tell tell Joey about your band experience and your tardiness And how you essentially got kicked off the band. I Was in a band called Laxton superb what? Yeah It's a laxton superb is an apple. Okay, right. So we were a psychedelic band, right? It was four kids just in high school, right? And then what happened was We played at this coffee shop called the metaphor cafe in Escondido, California. This is probably in

1993 Three that's like band in the metaphor. Yeah, yeah, and there was these two Hippies that also played at the metaphor cafe and they were like maybe 20 or 30 years older than us But they were so good that the lead singer of my band asked these two old fuckers to be in my band our band and Then it was now it looked like fucking the Grateful Dead It was like, you know six fucking people up there and then they had me in the very back Right, and I was just like what am I doing back here? So I just said I don't want I think it was name was Dave I forgot who the other guy's name was and I go I don't want them in the band

They go well, they're good and and they're in the band. So there's nothing you can do about it So then in protest I just stopped showing up to rehearsals thinking that that was gonna You know that they're gonna be like, oh Bobby's not around We so we'll kick them out and get Bobby back in but then they all had meet us at metaphor cafe at 3 p.m So I show up and then they go You're out What did you play? We played a pool hall. No, no, what was your instrument?

Keyboard keyboard. Yeah, I could play the keyboard Okay, I put pretty good You know, it's not like professional like you Joey. No, no, no, you don't have it's not fucking professional but you know, I mean I did what I could and But I wasn't that good. So um, they kicked me out and you know what? I'm I'm grateful I'm fucking grateful and thank you for kicking me up because without that Without that fucking gig I would have never done comedy because that's when I started going Oh, you know what? I got to figure something else out. So I started doing improv classes

Right and showing up at the improv comedy club in Pacific Beach and hanging out. What are those guys doing now? Yeah, one of them works for fucking cheesecake factory. He designs the the walls. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that's nothing wrong with that That's pretty good. That's pretty good. The cheesecake factory is notorious for cool walls. Yeah, that's what they're like known for They're known for their cool wall. No, but the little lines of the walls. Yeah, more than cheesecake sometimes Is that what it is? I swear to you like there's this whole like there's a There's this whole like about the cheesecake factory art. Oh So he's doing well. He's doing well and then I

Guess he's doing better than I am So then the other guy Alan he lives in San Diego and then he he's an accountant. That's good, too. Yeah That's pretty good. Gotta keep the books going man. That's pretty fucking good. That's good You gotta keep the books going. All right. Well, then I got five fuck I got fucked by kicking out of the guy getting kicked out of the band Yeah, and I'm sorry to them and I feel remorse. Why'd you kick me out? So anyway, so let's go back to the fucking gas My friend here

So what was the so when did you what was the show that like turned into like? Oh shit? We're gonna make it. Oh You know It might have been the first one. Oh, wow, really just because we got it over with and we made it, right? You know, it was we were so nervous, you know, like I dropped The pick it was It was only one I only had one and I fuck I gotta pick that up. Oh, you know, and yeah, how many people There were four. Oh

On your first like let me see my brother and my boss Friends, yeah, like I like like like 13 of them. Wow It was no, it was a small small gathering, but we did it playing in a small It's more nerve-racking playing with a half a room, right in a full room. Yeah. Yeah, it's more No, you know, it's for us. It's more nerve-racking playing a small club Like we did a troubadour one time just recently And then then a festival, right the festivals really kind of no big deal I went to the one at Rose Bowl just the last couple months. Oh with the cure with the cure. Yeah, you mean cure

The cure and I was pissed off that I didn't go. Why didn't you invite me? I I did invite you but You said something should I say it in front of him say it? No, don't say it What is it? It had to do with Kim deal What? He wouldn't go to a show because he said this is before he knew you he was like I can't if Kim deals not there. I got it

It's understandable totally understandable But Paz is wonderful Who's the new basis? Oh, Paz is amazing. Paz is great. She is she is Okay, amazing. I understand that. Yeah, all right. Let me defend myself. Okay. All right Number one will I go to another pixie show again, of course. No, you gotta buy a ticket Because you know how many fucking times I saw you six fucking times Oh, and I bought a fucking ticket already, right? Kim was there. Oh

All right, but can I just say this let me say this okay? Like you know who bought tickets every show when you guys did remember you guys did the show where you only did the album do little Mm-hmm, right? Who's there? Did I got the box seats, baby? Right when you played the fucking Greek theater when you first got there, right? Yeah, when you guys when bone machine when you I know all your songs by the way, right when people going crazy at the Greek theater, dude, were they allowed not only that would be loud see we couldn't hear them We thought they were a dead crowd or maybe it's just an LA crowd and every time we play three nights there every time we Got out of there. We just like they hate us

Because we couldn't hear them. I got backs. I got the green room in the back for that show Oh, okay. I remember Keanu Reeves is there and a bunch of people were there, right? Yep, and and then I remember you walking by and then we go I think it was like a traumatic all of the sex in the city people were there. Yeah, everyone was there Yeah, so I'll tell you why you didn't hear anybody because when you first came out, right? I'm not kidding you. I because you were like, okay, so it's as if like, you know, if You the talking heads got back together Would you never think it's gonna happen because of

Burn what's it's David Burns relationship with the other fucking, you know, I don't think it's gonna happen So, you know after Trump LeMond, you think Well, you know, I like Frank Blacks, you know solo shit, you know, I mean, but it's not the same So then when you something like that happens where you go because I was too young to ever see you guys back in the heyday So it's like when you guys came out. I'm not kidding you the people that I was with we weren't clapping because we were crying we Like an asshole because when I see a show that I'm amazed by yeah, I don't I'm just like wow I don't clap or anything. I just like

Give you giving the props, you know, like a jet good jazz show. You're not supposed to talk. Yeah I'm supposed to do any of that. Yeah, you know, so that's why so, you know, yeah, all right, you know Maybe I did have that point of view. You cornered me. I wouldn't have said that if you said don't why didn't you invite me? You know that that row they said did they say they build it as the Rose Bowl, right? Yeah, it wasn't even near it It was yeah, it was the golf course See I was Utterly this see that's my head. All right. It's like Where's this? It's like it's not it's not the Rose Bowl. Yeah, it's not the Rose Bowl

Stadium, it's the I think they call it like Bayside like golf course something. I call it Rose Bowl adjacent Yeah You were the right we played with them before yeah, we love we love playing with them. Yeah, well, I had a blast Yeah, yeah, we played with it Dodger Stadium. We did it back in the day back in the day. Yeah. Wow. Yeah How what's what's Robert Smith like? He's he's pretty cool. Yeah, he said he's very you know, he's a gentleman. He He watched the show. Yeah, and you know said hello afterwards at the you know on our way back to the trailer Yeah, I always wondered that when you you know when I see like bands together like what they do

They hang out backstage together You would hardly see each other because they're we're on different schedules. Ah You know, and you know, and we're trying to be traffic, too Yeah, yeah, yeah, we really are it's just like we got to get out of here and After shows it for the last one. Yeah, the vans literally waiting for us and we just zip zip Yeah, Brookside, that's what it was called Brookside country. Yeah. Yeah, the the golf the golf course. Yeah. Yes called Brookside. I can't play there. You'll never do it again

Then the golf there. Oh Yeah, because they allow five people Not four but five. Oh So you have to wait a lot games long enough but five Wow That's just so you don't have see I was gonna say I was gonna say something, you know, okay East Coasty there Yeah, that was so I want to apologize to you. All right that I had said that but that was my point of view But you know what I've changed my ways, right? And obviously obviously number one, you know, Joey Santiago

Mm-hmm. I'm a true fucking fan, right number two, right? Remember the end of Fight Club? Mm-hmm. Yeah, the fucking buildings are coming down. Yeah, I can't talk about it Why I just always illegally We'll cut it out it's the first rule I cannot read you so good You're so good. Oh my god. I was like Bob what the fuck did you do? Oh my god. I thought that was so good That was pretty good. This is a good place for it

We should just turn it in wait wait did people I don't so let me ask you something Is that a joke that you tell people when people bring it up? No, right here That's Filipino talent right So let's go into now, let's go into right you could talk about I'm not in it I know but that what an iconic I know you don't want to talk about it But what an iconic iconic movie and what a great fucking ending of a movie with that song Where's my mind? It is really really it's really dope. I have to say it's one of the best drops Yeah, it really is the music the composed music was all electronic

Yeah, you know and the first thing you hear is an acoustic guitar the most pinnacle scene. Yeah, yeah It's incredible. It's like wow, you know when you were it. Did you see that movie in the theaters? No, I did not have you seen the movie. I did yeah, I did and now when you're loud I can't go to theaters by the way. Why I have a fear of crunching sounds. I Really do Okay, hold on what kind cuz I have miss oh, it's called miss a phonia. I have it I have it big time. Do you have miss a phonia of the the licking sound? Yes So everything not just crunching so it's the licking the eating anything that

Drives me nuts. Yeah drives me. I I Look at people restaurants like I'm gonna kill them I don't even know that my kids would tell my girlfriends would tell me it would be I said girlfriend not girlfriends and I said No, no Okay, take two my girlfriend would say like don't look at him like that. Yeah, it's like what it's like like you hate them it's like well, it's true Yeah, but I just I don't know what it is it is and it's not their fault

Yeah People have to fucking chew their shit Joey. It's my fault But but but it's not your fault either because I hear that it's just something that's acquired without even you like Knowing about it. I wish I didn't have it. I tried I tried therapy. I tried hypnosis on it I tried everything real thing. Yes. Yes. So I could just I could be around people and I Had to leave a restaurant one time

What? Yeah, a Mexican restaurant. I tortilla chips. Yes. I put on the jukebox Because fucking Mexican restaurant has a jukebox so many of the old-school ones. Yeah. Yeah, this way this place But the alligator does because I needed it because you know, I heard people and the owner Turned it off. Oh, man. He said no, no, no, we don't it's like what? Wow, you know, you left the place I left I go. I don't want to eat your fucking food I Know I know but I'm like like let me see I'm gonna open this up. Does this bother you? If it's done repeatedly if someone was doing this

Well, that doesn't bother me, but yeah, you know just like the clicking of the pen. Yeah, even that. All right Bugs the hell out of me. Wow Oh and then when they put when they started serving nachos in theaters Yeah, that was the last that was the last straw. Have you seen that Tom Popo the movie? It's about Rob. It's a it's it's it's like a Western spaghetti film kind of thing, but you know with ramen ha ha ha, you know, and and and they're they're going for like, you know ramen's about food. Yeah, and the opening scene

they were showing a movie and And people were up front were eating really loud and the director Just went to them and just went nut shit on them I just like yeah Yeah, yeah, I did not know that about you wait, so I have What I do tell them what I do. Okay, so I don't have misophonia But for some reason he brings the misophonia out of me because he does these well first off He can't chew a steak properly because he's missing teeth. So when he chooses steak

It's as if he's trying to melt it in his mouth He doesn't have the teeth to clamp down. So he does it and Then on top of that every night Every night he does this thing with his fucking talons on his feet Where he'll take one talent and put it against like a really crusty part of his back foot and he'll just go Oh Fucking foot shavings that he carves out every night in bed and I wake up from the dead sleep She gets angry bro go in drives me crazy. It's fucking angry bro over

I don't eat with some you know, I have a select couple that I won't eat with okay That's what I wanted to ask you so one actually slurped a Steak slurped the steak, maybe you just Really and I was like and I told them yeah, wow I did I go like Name yeah, how the fuck do you get a second date? Wow, you know what with with that? Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, what about your own kids and your family like they hate me Do you have do you tell them? I think I passed it on oh

And they call my shit out when I do it so I gotta you know my my girlfriend It's she thought was cute. No, it's kind of like I don't know if she thinks it's so cute, but I told her oh, that's It's not gonna be you wait, you know, yeah, it just won't be I want to know exactly Like I want a PowerPoint presentation of all the sounds that drive you crazy And at what frequency like if you do it four times versus eight no just once on on the crunch Right gone slurp gone. Do you hear it on yourself? See With me. Yeah, I could I could hear it with myself. Yeah, I I could it's fine if I do it

But everyone but but but but when I'm around people I do eat quiet because I don't know if anyone around me has it Well, you know, I'll tell you what asshole No one else has that no. Yeah A lot of people have it if you were slow if I was eating well, I'm sorry for yelling Okay, but if I was at a Jersey Mike's with you. Yeah, okay, because what goes with sandwiches, baby? Chips now chips, right? No. Yeah. No. What do you mean? No? So if you were let's say you were eating chips look, I'm already sweat. I Really, yeah, I went to Jersey Mike's with you and I wanted chips. I shouldn't order them

Now you well, what do you think now? Do you know? Also, I have a question. Do you I'm just trying to figure out if that's even I would just be like you want to take him to a Jersey bike Well, I want to know if it's a deal breaker Before right we were Yeah, was there crunchy foods there? Do you remember? No, no, no, no crunchy. No, no, no, you had a euro, right? Euro sandwich. Yeah, I think I remember exactly. Oh, no, no, no, because I was just I was asleep That place was cool because it's hardly any crunching

You know like a Mexican restaurant. No, probably never had Mexican with you. I've had pizza and Greek. I think yep Yeah, yeah, so any place would like kind of soggy foods. Oh, I can't wait to eat I'm gonna crunch the fuck out of your ear. There should be like popcorn flavored Cotton candy at the movie. All right. First of all, what are we doing? We're sitting down. We're not Anything you're gonna be sitting down you shouldn't be consuming calories. Yeah Right, yeah unless unless you could prove you're gonna run a marathon after right, okay makes sense But if you're gonna go home drive Go to sleep

Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think of this new trend on the internet the mukbang where they they Basically have like a big pile of food in front of them and they just eat in front of the camera for hours Oh, you mean a ms or ASMR same thing ASMR like but they call it mukbang. Yeah. Oh Oh, just eating in front of a camera with sounds with sounds like a slurpee Eating. No, no, I've tried those. I mean, I saw those ASMR thing. Yeah. Yeah, you know the SMR. They're cute Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of the girls. Yeah. Yeah, I get real erotic. Yeah, I just mute it and look at look at Hours of the crunching No, but it's supposed to you know this when they do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of like it. Yeah

I don't like the whisper ASMR I like the when they get creative and make like weird sounds out of like regular objects fully artist Maria brown which basically no, yeah, they will take like a feather and it goes Yeah, I don't like it when they do the intentional whisper like I feel like that's like so four years ago. Yeah Hmm. It also has it gives me that you know that, you know, like the tingly that's where you're supposed to get That's the whole that's a whole I don't be wincing while I'm relaxing though. Oh, yeah, they'll go Like that, it's not like do that I say the same again. How you doing? Wow so quick hey guys of the show so you told me once to which was interesting where

You're on stage. You're so tired. Oh You forgot the beginning of the baser Yes, oh no Mount Fuji. You're in Mount Fuji. So the baser is I took the sleeping pills It's it's you're supposed to take it so you kind of get used to it beforehand and I took it for the first time on the plane And I was up the whole time And I didn't do the rule which is you stay up till midnight No matter what and then go to sleep. I Went to sleep and then I was up all night and

then went to the show dead tired and I forgot I forgot the intro well now it was the first song of the set The the first song and like the thousand time we played it. Yeah Yeah, so when you all right, so I can only imagine right? Yeah How many people are in there? Don't know a lot of us about thousands. Yeah, thousands of people. Yeah, you're up on stage, right? People are going back say right the lights come on right and then it's like one two three

Yeah That part you don't know I forgot that yeah, so I thought I remember that oh you remember that part. No, no, I didn't even remember that I For yeah, I just wow I forgot everything and what do you look at your fucking bad messing up? You know, no, we started again and Charles goes. I thought I was kidding We can't do this wow Yeah, it reminds me when I bombed in front of that big crowd that one time in San Jose We're like I would you know the 20,000 seats where they booed me off stage. Yeah, you know

I was I I had to follow Leslie Jones and she killed and then I want went up on stage and just nothing came out. Oh man, and they just started throwing fucking Bottles and cans at me 20,000 people booing me and then me just walking off stage in tears You know, I mean, it just happens wait. So did you end up a Figuring it out like oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and of course Yeah, I mean, it's okay now now before shows I would do that and I would kid around with the Oh, really with with Paz and yeah, yeah, she knows the story

Yeah, and I would do it and then you know And then I would break into like a Then I'd pretend I fuck it up all backstage. All right, and then I'd do a blues lick because like oh Damnit, you know trickster. Yeah, but yeah, but I'll never ever screw that one up again. What happened? I want to get serious now So you put out the EP then Surfero's a do little bossa nova and then trample them on and then what happens? Why did you break up?

You know, you know It just We weren't we weren't happy anymore. There was this tension you know, yeah, there was just this massive tension and and And yeah, I couldn't stand it anymore really after a while. I just it was Yeah, it was it was it was bad Like cuz I always wonder that like how can't you can't just talk it out Tension oh a talk. Yeah, I'll get us in a room and go tell we we we we were

Socially in that we never talked about anything We just didn't you know, yeah, who's that a David Levera said, you know, you want to break up a band two words bad meeting Yeah, right and a meeting that means it's over well Yeah, yeah So then you break up and then how long will you because I just remember it being a Over a decade right longer than that that you were yeah broken up. Mm-hmm. How long about decade? Yeah 1010 10 years. Yeah, and in that because I'm just so curious about this because I know a lot of bands break up but what do you

Do you talk to them in the 10 years or do you just stay completely silent just with Charles and Uh, because I record on his solo stuff. All right and uh, David Right. Yeah, and Kim came with I There's nothing There's no bad blood. We just don't talk after the tour like I haven't talked to David since We left Australia. Hmm In March. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the corona thing was just raging. Yeah. Yeah, and we just got the hell out of there and And um, uh, Charles maybe once

Paz I haven't talked to her. It's just it's just what bands do. It's normal. It's normal. Yeah It's a normal thing. You think that you would call each other a day. Yeah, how's how's the baby? You know what I mean? Yeah, how you are you doing the yoga? You guys don't do that. No, you guys You guys show up at it's like work. Yeah, it's workmates. Yeah. Yeah If I worked at Radio Shack could we brought up Radio Shack? Yeah, is Radio Shack still around? Maybe maybe a banker. Yeah, but and I'm and I'm working with a crew of people on our off days. We probably wouldn't talk

Exactly. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, but you guys there's love there though. Yeah, there is. Yeah, there's mutual respect and all that You know, but it's just You don't think about it. Yeah, like Jordan Peele That's exactly good. I was on mad TV with Jordan for how many years I was on mad TV with him for Five or six years. It's a long time and then you know That he did key and peel and this and that then he won his academy award And he texts me once every other month back and forth

How's it going this and that but it's not like we talk so I get it, but I love him Dearly, I love everyone from mad TV Deeply if I saw them in the streets, I would give them a hug. What? Nothing our garden. It's a neighbor's gardener who's doing his is it driving you crazy? No, it's not driving me crazy But Joey, what did you do in that 10 years? um I I uh, I tinned four old all the windows I really did what I fell in this deep depression. Right. I've always had it, you know

I've always had in the road, but but but but that there was too much time and I stood in it. Yeah, and uh, yeah Yeah, my wife at the time said, what are you doing? He's like I don't I don't I think blackout curtains are expensive Yeah, I thought it was totally normal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was genius It is genius. That's what I did in college when we were broke. We did foil. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I locked myself in there Wow. Yeah Yeah, I stunk too. I mean I I I really I was it was now I look back at it wasn't normal And we're similar in many ways where

We we dipped in the The drugs. Yes And you know, I want people to know that the way I know Joey. I know Joey as A sober guy. Yeah, and I too am sober and we've connected in that way. That's our the foundation and um What is I mean because I know that when you got sober it was a difficult transition like all of us, right? Yeah Like if the first year was tough Yeah, yeah Yeah, it really is. Yeah, you know, I didn't know what to do with my days

Yeah, you know, I mean, that's when I knew was normal. That's like, oh, maybe I did have a problem Everyone else knew but me. Yeah, but but but then I started to know And then I really knew when I was just puzzled what the fuck people do Yeah, when they wake up, what do you what do you do? Oh, you know, what do we do have your lunch? Even lunch I I got I get I got I felt bad by not ordering a drink Yeah, when I go out, you know, and I go to these places and Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, what are we talking about? Yeah, I'd go to these places and they know me And they would start I'd start here in the shaker

Right when I enter the door. Yeah, that's like, oh, fuck. No, I no I don't do that. Yeah, and they just go what? I was like, but they respect it. Yeah, it's it's it's an odd thing. It is. It's uh, but you know Let me be honest. It's I don't do it Listen, do I miss it? Does it feel good to get high? Yeah, but I just can't live, you know, I mean number one when I'm Smoking weed or doing whatever I'm doing. I can't live in the moment. I can't connect with people around me. I can't um

I'm just not in God's light It's hard to explain, but you know by being sober. There's a spiritual element to my, you know me sobriety and it's like And you know, I've been sober off and on since I was 17 years old So I know what it feels like to be present and mindful and to be You know, I mean clear You know, and it's like I just can't I do don't I I'm like anyone else when I go to a Mexican restaurant I want a martinis

Margaritas market market. What? Marcus. Yeah martini. What's it called margaritas margaritas? Margaritas, right? Right, right. I can't say certain things All right, and I'm I'm tired of being Sorry, George She's fucking shamed by white people because I can't speak your language correctly All right I

I Mixed up pronouns and someone told me that the Filipino language the gala doesn't have pronouns doesn't so my mom is So I go like he's dad. You just say he she to here, you know, yeah Yeah, we can't assume. She's a girl. I mean boy No, what though if you really think about it, the Filipinos got that right that part right in their language Like they just don't refer to anything as male or female. It's just like it's like if it's just a person Yep, like there's no male female. So my mom it's always this is how she says it. Oh, you know darling So he she went to the she just covers her basis and she says he she just in case it's a he or is she

And that's how she refers to people So he she went to the bank, but my dad would go like wash an act actor or anything. He'd go like ah bakla Everyone's a bakla everybody that's very old school like Filipino everybody is we want to say what that is joy You know, coli and I wrote a show. We're right. We're pitching a show. So and it's a Um, it's a we last a couple years ago. I was in saboo and I one day woke up and I said, let's do a talent show A local talent show in our in my um families like provincial area. There's I bet you there's I mean They're like the mockingbirds of the Orient. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so what showed up were people with the level of talent of michael jackson

I mean just the dancing the singing it was So we're gonna pitch it We and you know, I want jo coi as a judge. I want you as a judge. Would you do it? Yeah We fly you out there. Take care of you. You judge this talent show Yeah, what do you mean? Yeah after this This is a couple years later. Uh-huh. Yeah, this is after we have a vaccine. What's craft services? What are the what are you guys gonna serve no loot and spucking bird nest soup for you if that's what you want Okay, slur and potato chips. Oh potato chips for the whole crew pringles. Yeah, but I want love

I really would love you and coi. Oh, I would love it to fucking yeah judge At the end dude, I want to say this too to to people listening. Um Is is that um, honestly Go out and if you don't know who the pixies are dude get All their albums But like I have to highly recommend you said that you both is bossa nova one your favorites. Yeah, yeah Dude, I love I was listening because when you had said that I think you said it on social media and went in and listened to that whole album again. And look at this

What see this what sorry? I I disturbed you. It's okay Okay, what is that we just made this it's it's a it's a mask. It's a pixies pixies mask. Yeah, I'm not I'm not I'm not pimping here Are you selling them though online? It sounds good Are you selling them online? Promote your shit. No Mom not doing not not for this. Yeah, thank you descriptions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but so people that are listening like are so follow

Joey Santiago on social media Right, we really dive deep because I really think that they're as good as You know, the greats talking heads. I mean, they're very influential. I would say the clash talking heads The pixies they're all in the same, you know that same Group of people or bands that are just like, you know air supply. What air supply? No, not air supply in my book Okay, in my book now. No. No. Yeah. Yeah for me. It's just pure Filipino

Adolescent nostalgia. Yeah That's like everything even when you go back now to the Philippines. It's like every shitty loud speaker outside of every home is still blasting poison GNR air supply And a couple of the other like, you know, it does when I hear that song it is it's weird when you hear songs You get these memories and yeah Ah things, you know, yeah, I listened to this is band called. I don't know if you know who they are but

They're called the red house painters. Oh, yeah, they're a 480. Yeah. Yeah 480. Yeah. Yeah, and um, It's real like sad core I love sad core music and marcos like the the singers writes about Internal things, you know, I'm very privileged white kind of because you say it's very email Oh, no, no, like it's not that I don't I'm a super depressed kid. I grew up super depressed Yeah, but his is the kind of email that I can't relate to because it's a very I call it privileged emo There's nothing like there's nothing like I grew up in like, you know

When I lived in in in high school like I live in the hood Like I didn't come like all the things that he talked about Like I didn't have my own bedroom Like I shared a bedroom with my parents because we were that poor. So I didn't know what it was like to be in your room alone Like pondering on life because I didn't even have that luxury Yeah, you know, so what he spoke about even though his songs are wonderful. I couldn't really yeah, but he talks about relationship loss You can talk about that insecurity is about his body. You can He's not just fucking white fucking privilege

You're the one who called it. He talks about like, you know, I mean walking on broken glass with bare feet You know me and stuff like that man You know, if you want to listen to a red house painters album, I highly recommend the roller coaster album There's the song mistress, but fuck them. We're talking about the pixies Now at the end of our podcast joey first of all, I also want to say that you are fucking great today We would love to have you back. Yeah, I really do. You forgot to mention the other records. We've done post breakup Yeah, are you even a fan? Yeah And listen to the post

Album the other albums the other albums. Yeah, you know, I'll be honest with you. I'm kidding No, no, I know you know what you're really putting me in the hot seat And I like it. I like it and I like to confront my own demons and I like to be honest with you Is is that I have not listened to them It's okay. And you know what I'm gonna do tonight. I'm gonna listen to tonight. Oh, yeah. Yeah Oh my god Wait, wait, wait, preset say it again Tim. You're listening, right? I I swear to god on my mother's life

All right, like for instance She said for two months you got to listen to the new strokes album Right. That's true. And I would I'd say I'm done. You know what I mean? Yeah And then the other night have you been I've been listening to it. Yeah, it's pretty fucking good. It's pretty good It's pretty fucking good. And I will yeah, I will fucking listen to them because I love you And I really love your band. Okay. Now at the end of our fucking podcast We do a thing called unhelpful advice

Oh, okay. And what it is is Oh, sorry tamale came out You pronounced it Fuck you So what it is is People from the internet email us with problems and we can give them advice. It can be helpful or not helpful Okay, okay. Let's give it a shot. Go ahead Unhelpful advice with Bobby Kalilah and Joey Southerner

All right, so we're gonna be following the theme from the past couple weeks of helping people with paranormal experiences We know you're an expert in paranormal experiences Exactly Hey guys long time fan here a few months ago. I had a ghost sighting and now I think I'm haunted I was on a road trip with my parents through oklahoma one night and we were driving along a dirt road That's when I saw a giant black hound with glowing red eyes on the side of the road I quickly told my dad who was driving at the time to pull over when we got out of the car The hound had disappeared. We didn't see any paw prints, but weirdly human prints leading away from the road

Ever since I've had this recurring nightmare. I'm in my house at night when I hear a knock at the door I look through the peephole and I see a man standing there He has a head of a black hound with glowing red eyes I run away from the door into my bathroom and look into the mirror. Then I say it's yourself You're talking about then my face starts bleeding out of my eyes nose mouth everywhere Then I scream and wake up What does this mean? Am I haunted? Yeah

Man my name is Andrew sucks It really does yeah Wait, so it was a hound a hound He saw a hound on the side of the road right with the red glowing eyes. It's a werewolf That's not the moral of the story The moral of the story is this some moral too. Yeah, there is when you see a black hound with red eyes You don't pull over. That's true. That's a good point, babe. I don't think he's haunted. You just you observe something. Yeah

Yeah, and you had a nightmare was a nightmare. What do you say? Yes. So now when he wakes up he goes he thinks it's him He is the hound that's bleeding with the red eyes. Uh, well, what does that mean? I guess what could it mean? I think that lockdowns, you know been a couple months. It's making people a little crazy. Yeah Yeah, okay main ptsd or maybe something like that. I don't I don't know. I thought he was I thought he said I thought Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like if he's haunted because he saw something like that Or maybe like it jumped into him like the the essence or the soul of that hound Jumped into the car. I think it feels like a demonic experience. It's now living within him Okay, so that's some normal stuff. All right. I

First of all what he saw was probably a coyote And he's in a car, right? So the lights shined and you know how you take photos with people and it glows red for some reason Maybe there's something some sort of illusion. He was a kid too, right? Yeah So it's just nothing is he acting like that creature. Yeah, is he turning into a werewolf? That's a good fucking question. It does not he just says he dreams about it He runs the bathroom that he says to the mayor every single time It's yourself. You're talking about and everything starts bleeding Damn too bad. He doesn't turn in that person. Yeah, that would be really cool

Because I would try to meet like Bezos and you could be that person. Yeah instead of a Yeah, how instead of like a mangy mug. Do you have another one? I would I would wait that one No, hang on. I think that he should the next time you write in shouldn't be until you transform into a real werewolf Because then we won't answer your question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, unless you're a real werewolf You're nothing. It's like somebody's emailing us like um, I found a little bump on my chest. It could be cancer

right email us when it's cancer Oh Yeah, I don't I'm not he you know, I'm not a doctor and I don't live in a hypothetical life Yeah, yeah, let turn it into cancer and then email us. So I'm sorry. I had this tamale earlier You know the tamale. I feel like I didn't chew enough. It's right here He he's moving like this. I'm impressed out. Yeah, I pronounced it. Yeah. Oh, fuck you

It was the other way I couldn't pronounce, you know, I mean something else Do you want you want to promote anything Joey that you would you're dying to promote promote Anything that's coming out or a show that you want to promote or anything Because people listen to this, right? And you know, but they're the pixies, babe. Yeah, yeah, right I that's my bad My bad, man. My kids want more followers on my I'll follow Joey's kids You your your kids want more followers or they want more followers for you for me over you. Don't follow Joey's kids They wanted my account

Verified so bad Yeah, and then it finally I had to actually do it because my friends were like, did you send this? It's some creep guy Offering him tickets like Mexico thing, but you gotta do and you know like hitting on them Yeah, so you had to get your shit verified So you're well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not even like a me too. Like it's like not me Yeah, I still get that even I'm verified. I get yeah, you still people like impersonating and stuff. I had this piece of shit I don't know if I talk about it. No, not worth it

What do I want to promote? You're you're fucking instagram and twitter understanding, but peace love fuck that No, I'm kidding I'm kidding I have nothing. Yeah I really don't I wish I did but you know what dude, let me say something to you You know, I I told you this before the podcast in my driveway, but I um You know, I we've had a lot of great people on this show. We've had

Tiffany Haddish aquafina you know a lot of people We've had the ice clay And it's usually there's certain people that make me just very delightful that they Are on and this guy's one of them because I truly am A big fan, but I was so more than that, you know, I just think that we're gonna be lifelong friends

He's a good dude. You're a good dude, man. Yeah, and I like you and I you know, you're an asian as well that helps But why don't you like golf? Well, there's other things to do besides golf Do you like to fly kite? It's the one I like to fly kites. Hold on one second. It's the one thing He does that makes me not want to like him. Hang on because his dad was a crazy avid golfer I'm not your fucking guy. No, but my dad beat you with golf clubs. Huh? My dad used to beat me with golf Yeah, there's a layer to this there's a layer to it. Okay. Yeah, but did he get your sweet spot though? Can you get him into do you um, can you get him into your outdoor?

Hobbies and activities because you got the peloton now. Maybe you can yeah How about this if I got a bike because I know you like to cycle Ooh And when the pandemic's over, what about something else that we want to do that's something else tennis Oh, yeah, he's oh, I'm gonna tennis. God. There's something wrong. There is something wrong with my toe at the moment I'm say I'm seeing an acupuncturist. Are you being real? I am being real I didn't want to go with my other one Yeah

I'm gonna go to her. She's very expensive. Okay, and I was like what? Yeah, it's like that's how much I was paying Yeah, because now I'm paying attention You know before like my toes fucked up fix it, you know, yeah And it's like, oh my god, and then and then I went into network And oh my god, just one toe one toe and he was fucking mean Was he a podiatrist or an acupunct? I had tears. He just goes. Oh, you know, it's it's just it's just Sensitive down there, but he was just like jabbing it Geez

And it's like no bedside manners. That's that's the most important thing. Yeah is that so anyone that's a fucking toe doctor Anyone that is in the realm of fixing toes, please get in contact with no, this is the acupuncturist my My my my foot doctor podiatrist is awesome. Okay. All right. If you're a podiatrist, fuck it Fuck it. He already has a podiatrist But if you want a foot guy a toe guy acupuncturist, and you're really good Contact Joey Santiago. Okay, and I wanted to do this How about a round of applause for my friend Joey Santiago for doing a wonderful podcast with the tiger belly family? It's so hot in here make sure you follow Joey Alberto Santiago on instagram

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