TigerBelly - Ep 256: From Cellar Door To Diplo w/ Brandon Dermer

Episode Date: July 29, 2020

Bobby is a dragon without the breath. Brandon is Rushmore. Khalyla is Blinks 182 times. We talk Nekrogoblikon JNCO sales, Bobby's comedy special, crustless pizza, B plex, Hoax Folks, and who is the biggest Karen?  More content: www.patreon.com/tigerbelly  Please support our sponsors.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey Prime members, you can listen to Tiger Belly add free on Amazon music download the app today Don't say your name. Don't say anything until I bring your name up. I'm not gonna. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, man Good test The best director I've ever worked for probably not true. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is Because your notes are cool I'm curious. Hey, man, like just pronounce it better man or whatever. Do you speak English Bobby? You know on every rip real I do for every show I put in your scene in the baseball stadium and it just seals the deal

Legitimately. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Do you remember that? I think the vampire dick thing was good. That was incredible, too Yeah, yeah, but that scene you're so let's talk about later. Let's let's start I like it made me feel so much better. Let's start. Let's start In my mind, I'm going to Carolina I'm going to Carolina Oh Five four three two In my mind, I'm going to Carolina

Don't you see the Sun beam don't you see the wind blowing in me side myself going to Carolina in my mind I love Johnny Taylor man he's a great great singer so what's his name James Taylor I love that guy man he's you know what he reminds me of he reminds me of just wholesome purity wholesome white purity the kind of whites that I've just always enjoyed in my lifetime you know the ones that you know I went when I graduated from high school no one showed up except for I think my dad was drunk but wait I thought but you walked to an empty diploma right yeah so they didn't give me a diploma they said that I could

walk with them and then well that's why but there's a gate there was a big fence so like maybe 500 feet away when you're on the stage there's a fence there's stands and there's a fence and in the fence there was a white man his name was Mark and he had his hands on the chain-link fence like that and he was watching me graduate and he had a tear running down his eye and he was there for me who's Mark who's Mark he's just this guy that I met in AA back in the day I want to know what he drove like 45 minutes just to see me graduate and his hand was in the chain-link fence like this where his legs up on the chain link

maybe a monkey maybe yeah I didn't see that far but he could have been doing that just dangling you know like those barrel monkeys you see yeah yeah you know and he was just like in my mind I'm in my mind I'm going to care a lot that type of vibe yeah I really love wholesome whites and in this day and age you don't see a lot and it really breaks my heart you know in my journey and through life and I've had a very exhilarating not Lord of the Rings close not even that close I never went to the minds of Moria I never did that swamp thing with the dead elves and remember that dead elves and then and Gollum was just like don't

follow the lights right and then and then remember what Frodo did Frodo followed the lights everybody was started sinking right sinking into the fat fuck who's a fat no it was any of the fat fuck except fat fuck is Sam wise right but Gollum goes hey I told you not to follow the light remember that scene so I never did any of that but you know I've had it my own journey and in your in everyone's life in everyone's life everyone lives their own journey okay and you meet characters and you and you experience things right that's what life is yeah there's downs right fatty that I wish people could have a view of what

I'm seeing what the splatter I know because that's why I have the wall yeah the wall of protection it's the wall the Trump wanted to build we did it here first we did it here first you're welcome so um and in my life so in my life I shut up I love you I love you so fucking much gilly we get into a huge fight every time he uses my computer every single time so he's not allowed to use my computer anymore because trying to introduce the guy but sorry tell me tell me so when I get my computer back after he's had an hour session on zoom with whoever it there's like chunks of food all over the screen not just

random food blueberry everything selected blue blueberry protein bar that we get where we ran out by the way at the order more warrior Sun Warrior it's just like it's a chalky gross it's not I think I know it's it's it's to me I've talked about the carnation breakfast bars when I grew up in the as a kid all right I grew up with these carnation back they were the they weren't good but there's just something about it that you're just addicted to so anyway I'm eating that let me introduce the guy what do you think so I spit I'm on zoom I spit it out because I have no teeth and I add little gaps in my teeth and I and

because I'm so powerful I have powerful breath diaphragm as well thank you and I was gonna say that as well but I'm like a dragon without the breath right you know dragons I don't I've seen a couple of my lifetimes so a big lizard that breathes hard no no dragons bro like from the medieval days like right like Skyrim shit you know how they blow remember fucking in the back to the Lord of the Rings yeah the hobbit right circle right Mount Doom smog is not smog smog correct that type of thing write it down man smog smog yeah and you smog when he believe me if I it's it's I but I breathe out instead of fire

blueberry protein bar chalky shit do you understand what I'm saying everybody and when you type when you type on the keyboard it's like braille because because the blueberry chalky stuff goes all over the screen and so then it dries yeah and then fucking complainer over here I mean my own personal Karen you better I can't even I can't stand by that I can't I can't there is no bigger Karen on this earth than you Bobby that's exactly oh my god I just fucking a rage you know me I pressed a rage button in her brain I Paul I was just kidding babe that's not a fart I take it back I'm the Karen you are the Karen I'm the Karen the house I take it back I'm the Karen the house okay all right

so Karen off so let's go back to the introduction okay because I had a whole thing okay so um you know many years ago I read I met a man by the name of Andy Santino and he doesn't like to be called Andy but he secretly does so people please start calling him back very good logic it's logical right but I was playing with Andy on Warzone leader day interesting and I would kept going Andy come over here and he stopped and he goes if you call me again I just wanna fucking you know me he gets really angry but he really does love it but my point is this okay I get a call many a couple years ago and my agent calls

many goes there's this guy named Brandy Durmer or Brandon Durmer and there's a show there's a show on vice and it's called what would Diplo do and what it and I didn't know what I had a Google Diplo because I'm not in the fucking EMD game you know I'm not into that whatever the game the game of fucking don't don't don't don't don't don't I don't know I don't know you know but I love the music when it's playing at the raves that I go to or when I go to a disco tech what raves you got to I go to the ones in Ramona Valley oh yeah yeah those are the best ones you have to take a map you get out there there's like three

people there yeah it's like people with like green bell bottoms and they have sticks boom boom bunnies play the Diplo right right and if Diplo's there they suck his dick by my point because he's so famous so I and I go oh my god this guy's a real big credible DJ who else then they go Vanderbac James Vanderbac right and I go I had to look that up right I look up James Vanderbac he was in a show called the family of five what it was the cold Dawson's Creek the dot yeah Dawson's Creek oh my god I did like hold on you fuck me up there that was your new seventh heaven no no no it was the one with what is it five in the

hand no it makes things right drop drop in the hand makes things right family times family family party a five party a party you why did you say drive I was like but I told you not to talk I was trying to communicate I love you I mean party five so anyway so then then I go and then I go what's the money like it was real low it was like you know working at like Jersey Mike's money okay so I go you know I said to my this is what I think that this is the program what I said to my agent nah and I hung up the phone once they gave me the money I go nah you know and then the redheaded freak Andy calls me over the weekend and

Andy goes um hey man um Durmer is super talented bro I go well who the fuck is the Durmer he's a great he's from Chicago Chicago and he is super talented you should see his real man he's like the next thing and he's a good friend of mine did you should do the project and I looked it up and then next thing I know I'm with Vander Vander and I'm with Brandon Durmer and we're over there on Sunset Boulevard on some sort of office building remember that building and as soon as I met him I went yeah that's my guy and I'll tell you why I'll tell you why folks when you're shooting a show right and I've I've dabbled I've never

been a lot of things only like 12 movies and like six network shows whatever you know just a little I get my feel the at all you mean for being a fat guy gook right and and when you're in those shows and you're doing things it's like there's there's an intimidation factor you know there's power plays there's shadow play power plays going on directors and producers they don't really necessarily know how to talk to the talent you know I get intimidated in me because I'm shot I'm very sensitive creative multi-dimensional but sensitive and but what I love about this next guest is I've never seen this before and

I'll probably never see this again but I had a fucking sad burp yeah little burp it happens it's been happening every episode a little sad burp came up because I've wolfed down on a side of all just now they just they just I just postmitted and he I knew he was coming and I get the big one it doesn't have bloops in it it bloops everything blueberries everything and peanut butter and I swolped it down but when you don't breathe and you eat right sad you try to gasp for air but then you'll eat acai a little arrow come in and then more acai and peanut butter and blueberries and bananas right and then

there it traps pockets of fucking air also the worst kind of poos to have the ones that are nuggets and then air and then we gotta get to air yeah I know we gotta get to this guy no we're fine no no I know you have ten minutes left to podcast yeah this is my because every you know my thing is is to string it along also you're in a record right now how long it's it's like 15 minutes yeah all right all right so anyway what I love about his directing style is in between pricks he plays death metal not not in his earphones on speakers you know stuff like that right like corn it's like corn right and then he'll go

action and the music and then the music will stop and then you're just kind of trying to do it you know I mean but he also gives great notes like faster you know I mean or I don't know what you're saying just pronounce it I don't know what you're saying at all just do it better pronounce it you know just general Meissner stuff yeah he's really just there was a time where you know at the baseball scene was at the baseball you know where I had to do this like a motion you know I'm you know very emotional not emotional but I had to be like stern and do this say this thing I was really nervous but he's able to make me feel

more comfortable anyway he's a great director he works he does all of Diplo's music videos he works with Michael Francis Dylan Francis I'm sorry Dylan Francis another DJ you know I mean in Ramona Valley yeah I only know three I know dip I don't know Diplo but I know of him I know Michael Francis and I know Stevie Ecke Stevie Ecke but anyway Brandon Durmer give him a round of applause guys he's a director writer I mean thinker thanks guys yeah how you doing under during the pandemic it's fine what I was that was a lovely intro didn't know you at all no I as a fan I like I said I'm just watching how the sausage

gets made I can just sit here and just watch I don't have to talk you guys keep going I think about 50 episodes ago you talked about Durmer and you said you likened him to a guy a wholesome gas attendant from some from Circle K you remember that I still have people DM me that really oh yeah but that I I want to give him a say something and further you literally do have a 1940s like valet you mean or or via or you know they when you go to a hotel mm-hmm and it's the guy a kid in the elevator Bellboy the he's not even a Bellboy he just he's not which is it on yeah right it goes up you just have this kind of

like you know I'm very nostalgic old-timey you know I mean but also not like you wouldn't be a soldier in the 1940s or 50s no you're more of like you know the Baker son mm-hmm yeah I worked in hospitality for many years did you really yeah in Chicago yeah well I is restaurants hospitality yeah what restaurant I worked at the Weber Grill what's that the Weber Grill restaurant yeah what the fuck is it like they make Weber they make food on Weber grills like steaks and yeah oh what's a web Weber grill you know what a Weber grill is let's do it let's do it let's do it vote in the room yeah you know what a

way also know the restaurant because I'm from Chicago oh really what he's talking about oh so you know what the Weber grill is yeah okay what is it it's actually grill it's a grill brand Weber grill oh wow how about you babe you have you heard of it yeah I have heard of it fuck man I worked at potbelly I was a sandwich artist for many years you a sandwich artist that's exactly the vibe I think Bobby you were going for but not only that potbelly we don't have them here I know delicious right what is I'll tell you what I like what do you like in that potbelly I get the Italian I add mushrooms and extra meat extra meat you

know what I do Papa mm-hmm I'll tell you what I do Papa mm-hmm I love their meatball sandwiches oh yeah with the pepper thing mm-hmm the Jardinair fuck what how do you say it the Jardinair the Jardinair that's that's in my life blood that's the best stuff ever that's what you ordered you ordered a couple jars you can order potbelly Jardinair oh there you go also Domingos and Encino they sell great Jardinair fucking to write that down Domingos now you guys should get sandwiches there get some by the way I fully support your when you suggested the the crustless from Luminati's thank you and Bobby through a

hissy fit because there was no crust bro let me say something it was the best I think I still think it's the best it's really special yeah okay alright here's the deal okay let's get let's get into it if you want to mm-hmm but one time Carlos Mencia goes hey bro he goes hey bro I'm gonna lose weight bro I go what is it let's go to in and out of my thinking in and out what the fuck we go to in and out he gets a hamburger right no bun animal style just what you know what replaces the bun lettuce fuck you lettuce you're right yeah but fuck you was doing the Atkins dye it then back in the day probably yeah so he was a bro

I'm eating fucking a hamburger but not getting fat bro right and I'm I know people are going wow in this day and age how come Bobby's doing an Hispanic accent that way it's not an accent it's an impression by the by okay so when I ordered the fucking stupid pizza that you suggested right and everyone at home listening you're in a car driver or you you know I read a couple of tweets the people will like close their eyes and sleep with me what I mean no is that you're a lot of fans no no no that sleep with me but they'll sleep listening to tiger belly okay that makes more yeah I like saying sleep with me hmm yeah but

the lay in bed and they listen so if you're listening now okay this is what so what was it crossless so imagine it's their keto option there you go okay so a pizza I'll just give you and I'm sure everyone's eaten one right and so there's three elements to a pizza that makes it a pizza right it's a good argument I've heard yes oh you've heard this argument yeah man may I say my argument may I say my argument please do okay thank you I have another argument to your okay let me say my argument okay we'll get to his argument and then we'll get to your arguments okay I'm I'm stewing okay are you getting angry no

I'm just ready okay so you know a pizza has the crust part mmm the breading yeah the foundation a lot of the foundation it also has some sort of sauce whether it be pesto generally it's red tomato sauce a pizza sauce okay and cheese you can put whatever you want on top as well these funky these funky fucking you know I mean island Asians right they like to put shit like four meat and pineapple right and but that's you know that it's America man right but whatever your thing is sometimes I like to put you know extra dip like Parmesan red peppers whatever it might be okay but those are the three things right if you

take one of those out right then it becomes cheese red sauce pasta topping if you take the cheese off right it just becomes tomato on bread yeah right it's not a pizza okay so this fucker right suggests is suggested me a crustless so I go crustless I don't I want I because also in my mind I'm like it's just not gonna have a crust yeah right oh I see what you're saying exact bingo still a bottom just no there's gonna be a bottom there's got to be a bottom okay my being too aggro no no no I think I feel like I mean to let me so but it's not that what a crust is not a requirement then you're saying the

backing just needs a foundation I think I'm being too aggro about it but I'm trying to check myself but what he what I got in the mail was um you know the sausage you know how there's some sort of sausage in the pizza yeah that's the fucking thing mm-hmm so the sausage is shaped like a fucking disc disc very tightly woven together and the cheese and the and the innovative and the red is in there so then I'm like you know you know you get minerals vitamins B plex carbohydrates B plex carbohydrates yeah amino acids and you know things to from bread FY you know this whole no-carb thing it's a fucking hoax folks right

it's right that the bread has B plex vitamins right it has amino acid it's got it's got dynamic it's got dynamic you know I mean carbs dynamic is very important you know carbs to insulate the body yeah and it keeps the engine running yeah and without the breading right you're not really getting the nutrients that you deserve the body needs okay so here I get a sausage bowl you know it filled with cheese cheese and and red sauce and so go ahead your jar no I'll pass it on so Bob the reason I suggested the the sausage crust right because I heard you on the podcast talk about how you were eating like six a

week and I was just so inspired by your commitment to Luma Nadie's it's my favorite place in the entire world and most people don't know about the crustless pizza it's it's not secret menu like in and out stuff but a lot of people don't order it I didn't learn about it until a year ago and I just get excited to share this secret opportunity an item with you it doesn't replace the pizza but it's an experience and it still sits with you and you guys can talk about it and I just wanted to share the experience I'm inspired by your commitment to Luma Nadie's it's rare I meet people from outside of Chicago who

are as committed as you are truly in fact he has only ordered food strictly from Chicago no other state oh no that's not true you have a Detroit pizza and then that's it everything else has been from Chicago surprisingly and that just warms my heart the Vienna beef everything oh you get that too every everything from Chicago well you know I have to say something about Chicago is it when I'm at the airport first of all what do you call that airport oh hair or midway I've heard of it or midway yeah it's oh hair I go to Chicago hair mm-hmm and I don't know if you've been here but there's terminals correct mm-hmm something

happens at oh hair that I've never experienced anywhere else is there's an underground tunnel connecting the two terminals what the fuck is on the ceiling the lighting yeah it's beautiful you know it's not I want to my dream is to shoot a music video in that underground little but do you know you know what I'm saying I know exactly what you're talking about yeah the neon like yeah yeah it's crazy looking it's beautiful I guess you know if you're like you know it looks like if Liberace exploded yeah is it overwhelming is it too much it just it's very 80s looking yeah it's very 80 like you know late 70s 80s vibe and it

just feels like you know it's little too I'm about to say something that I don't want Chicagoans you know shaitan shaitan people say it yeah when I go to Chicago air hair and I'm in the morning I go to this hot dog place that's in the whole right and they have breakfast stuff but they always said we can make you also a Chicago dog mm-hmm there's nothing better than deep dish Chicago pizza mm-hmm there's nothing better than fucking you know the Chicago dog mm-hmm have you been to Gibson's absolutely best steak house on planet Earth it's really good right mm-hmm he's not saying it's the best he's saying it's really good that was

his way of saying okay I'll let you have your opinion but that's not my I like Gibson's a lot I don't know if it's the best thing in the world I really like it though I'll catch that and remember in the lead they shot they made that do you ever watch the league that show with all the the folks in it they shot who's in it the folks in it like John LeJoy, Nick Kroll and Paul Sheeran all them who else Martou Plas, Steve Renazizzi, they pretend that the bar their neighborhood bar it's Gibson's like the exterior shot they got is Gibson's yeah I you know I've been on the show I know you have yeah yeah then why'd you ask me cuz I just

wanted to see your reaction yeah yeah yeah yeah they do and and and Renazizzi okay I know it's not the best fucking steak house in the world right but you really like it no it's not just that I like that it's it's I like things that have been somewhere for a very long time like do you love the comedy store yes why because it's been there a long time there's history around it I get it yeah nostalgia I'm yeah but there's also you know the walls speak stories not just you know things that happen there but I think I think buildings absorb energy right and there are like just in terms of comedy cultural things events that

have happened in that building and only in that building and also I believe it's haunted and also they have not changed really much about the club it's always looked the same exact way so it's almost like you're going to into a time capsule right that's how I feel about Gibson's I waited tables at a restaurant up the street from Gibson's called Jake Melnick's and all through film school and then we would tell you imagine you to be the best table waiter I was horrible as enthusiastic but I would fuck up a lot and forget a lot of things one time one time a couple was very rude to me and my manager deactivated their credit card

they were just like grinding me they're really mean really aggressive I used to purposely stick my finger in the dishes while I'm carrying it yeah you know I mean it's on purpose like if there was a salmon I would just stick my thumb in and just you know what restaurant I can't say I don't want to get in trouble yeah because I do because the I still have a relationship with them so I don't want it yeah funny to me I just imagine like your whole thumb just in someone's meat yeah yeah holding it like that little extra sodium for other things but I can also imagine like huh is that where the bone was or you know I mean this did you

ever get caught or no no no I wasn't a good waiter though I you know I I just there's I'm like my brother my brother's worse but there's a point where I just kind of might I can't shift I can't pretend there's a lot of acting right mm-hmm you can't go hey sir like they go hey buddy where's the ketchup right they're just gets a point where you go hey buddy I'm fucking busy yeah and I forgot mm-hmm watch your tone you know that comes out yeah just then that reflects on the tip absolutely that always reflects on the tip you know so um let's get into how you started directing

go ahead the whole thing just like why did you go to film school I did where Chicago Columbia in Chicago not not like Columbia Columbia in Chicago George hates when people say Columbia cuz he went to Columbia I know you have to say Columbia of Chicago cuz the re the smart people get very offended to me I've always heard that Chicago Columbia was better than the other Columbia you heard of your first Bobby Lee on title they're just more you just absorb more information there and greater people come out of that's absolutely George just said he paid more money for less success because he went to the Columbia

Columbia Ivy League is there a Columbia College in Columbia I think there's a Columbia College in Hollywood too I think I've seen that yeah there's a few so you went to film school in the good Columbia good yeah it started I played in shitty bands all through high school let me guess what kind of music like scrimmo post-hardcore bullshit yeah yeah and why do you like that I don't know yeah you do a little angry sometimes and it's just good it's good it's good musicianship it's fun yeah but you told me once that you sleep to it it does calm me I do find that it either really invigorates me or really is soothing

maybe because it's so chaotic and it takes away from the chaos of life I could see that or of set to it's so chaotic you can put on this metal that's far more filled with madness see that band above you it says drive like jay who mm-hmm they're kind of like a punk math rock band pretty loud you're pretty like screechy love and you're right I do listen to that when I go to sleep mm-hmm I think because of my mind I'm so crazy in my mind I have so many thoughts and I it for some reason even with the feedback and and the and in math rock it's repetitious right I like counting the repetition of it right and it's somehow I

can get in sync with it so I get what you're saying it's like a meditative mantra like you're following it constantly bro we've never been on the same page until now my friend right now even during the show you weren't on the same page we were that I say hey have you ever heard of vapor wave mm-hmm Bobby is lately into this thing called well a couple waves one is vapor wave one is the other one what's the one that sounds like the weather channel but with music vapor wave that is vapor wave right I like cold wave music what's cold wave again cold wave is sort of like joy division think of joy division but like

even less produced mm more synthetic and lo-fi yeah I'm intrigued it's very cold like coldly cold because it's just distant and very kind of not metallic but just lo-fi you know you'll like it you'll get what I'm saying if I played you some ethereal it's just like yeah no it's just you know if there's a tempo to mm-hmm I love when you do different genres of music you know that kind of stuff right but vapor wave is more you ever see in in the 80s or 90s the weather channel mm-hmm and at nights you know how sometimes back in the day you millennials won't even know or give us a chance I'll give you I'll

give you a chance back in the day when we were in I was in high school you would turn on to TV at 11 30 and it would just turn off it would just go and there would just be like rainbow like rainbow lines right or some channels would have you know the statue of you know but you know in Vietnam when they were holding the flag in place I don't know why I took 15 dudes to do that why did it take 15 dudes to do that but you know how they're holding the flag in place yeah yeah America man look at my fucking flag you know they do that right and they would be like an American god bless America and they would just have that photo and

play some sort of like but the weather channel used to have it'll just say whether it's weather channel and the logo and this weird sort of music like elevator music kind of that's but the vapor wave imagine that with a little bit more of a beat that's vapor wave in fact the vapor wave I listen to have like you know the forecast tomorrow they'll you literally you literally hear it them say the force of cast tomorrow is 90 degrees over Fahrenheit this and that I mean the traffic is really bad and they'll have that in it in it I really like it do you remember the songs that you had on your MySpace page yeah the

same songs I listen to now what I mean there had to have been like at least a rotation yeah the pixies I would I have always liked the same things the pixies sonic youth I used to like the velvet underground Roxy music I liked television I liked you like television from CBGB back back back then love the talking heads what did you have on your MySpace page I was too focused on managing my bands MySpace page and you never had a song on your personal I don't I honestly don't remember was because I was so hyper focused on my shitty bands MySpace paid was a band called Cellar Door because this is painful dark because

Donnie Darko stoned in high school like whoa do you remember that scene where the teachers like the most beautiful two words in the English language together are Cellar Door oh wow so it was called Cellar Door yeah so lame no I like it it's cool because nothing ever think good happens in a cellar yes that's true so the door you know yeah well no there's wine yeah yeah there's wine but there's a kimchi cellar there's a kimchi cellar yeah so it was called Cellar Door how many gigs you guys do we played like three every weekend all over in the Midwest like basements in Chicago VF lots of VFW halls we play in Wisconsin as

well Indiana do you get any got pussy after the shows not really we weren't got we weren't that heavy we would play we were playing with like hardcore bands and then pop punk bands oh we were somewhere trying in the middle blending those two yeah I was wondering because I was in a band as well I was wondering what what's the end goal did you have dreams of being a rock star oh yeah I want it so in high school I play in a band we made music videos for the band I want to see those I do I made a lot in high school I was like I did that and then me and my friends made sketch comedy for clubs at our school and we were

trying to be like the funny alt comedy so we would basically take UCB sketches from Comedy Central and repurpose them to be about like Xbox Club the clubs that would allow us to make videos their club so you're kind of like Rushmore that guy yeah all these weird stuff yeah yeah so then you went to Columbia the only one in my book thank you yeah Columbia and I better get kicked back from them you will huge endorsement you will and you started you started film school there yeah and what was your ultimate goal to do movies or I didn't really know I played in another band after Cellar Door we got a cease and

assist from a band in LA that we had to change our name like 400 fans so we changed our name to morning scene that band broke up but the I love that fucking name thank you morning scene is cool yeah and then after that band broke up in film school the bass player and I who's the production designer on what would Diplo do we started a band called football weather so I played in that band great fucking name thank you I love that band football weather is a great there's a band called football or American football isn't it American football yeah I love that band yeah American football they put like one album

yeah yeah they're good so I played so and then I I just wanted to study everything so my friends and I saved up five of us we bought a Panasonic DVX100 a and we would just make a short every month because we were only required through school to make three mm-hmm do you do one every month yep and we would write star direct everything and just yeah so then I don't get I know how comedy works I just don't know how your world works so you graduate from Colombo mm-hmm and Columbia mm-hmm and you do you just move straight to LA I my last semester was in LA I got in this like honors program at the CBS Radford

lot which basically every day two people from the industry from like a big agent to an assistant or a big writer to an aspiring writer would come in and sort of just tell their story and it was very informative that there's like no right way to do anything in this business because like film school they're like get your meeting 15 minutes early have your business card and like all that stuff on the Colombo but then in this class you really heard these like real world crazy stories you know what I do you know what it reminds me mm-hmm you're gonna hate the story but you're gonna hate it give me a chance all right I'll

give you a chance so when I was on splitting up together we had some an intern that like won some sort of thing or it's through a college or something but you could she's just bright-eyed and bushy tailed right because she can't believe she's on a TV set but then whenever I run into people like that I act extra affected you I mean like I can't believe this is like I'll talk as if you know you don't even understand what I'm saying yeah you know but you know the rehearsal we were there and they're like what like I wanted them to think that like it's so beyond right for me she's gonna go home and be like oh

my god like he was so eccentric yeah you were one song yeah yeah yeah she's told that story and someone's told that story or like if she's sitting like this person sitting around I'll just sit weird mm-hmm like this you know I mean I'll sit like this and just go and just go just do nonsense yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah do you see that man the son fuck it's so bright today and just act just act weird and aloof and she's just all bushy tailed excited yeah yeah but I hope purposely do it just to throw out you know me that image so anyway that like you so bad so do you go to us so you did the Radford thing and then and then I got internships I'd like

five internships and I was hosting at restaurants I couldn't get a job waiting tables here I walked up and down Ventura I walked from Vineland in Ventura all the way to Sepulveda dropping I had a kick-ass resume Weber Grill Jake Melnick's blockbuster I was real I could not get a job why do you think I think is to get a job as a waiter out here is like a hot commodity and I didn't have a headshot and I was a yeah that's exactly you didn't have a headshot I was a little dorky dude in but I got a job as a host at a restaurant so I did that for a little bit and then one of my internships turned into a full-time job as an

assistant so I was an assistant to a producer and a manager for four and a half years oh wow what you can't mention I can't yeah it was called underground films I was too I was for this guy Nick Osborne Trevor Angleson and Oliopes all at the same time well you must have learned a lot there I did everything because like you know in film schools perfecting the art my friends filming our dick joke videos really like honing that in but there I learned you know from just being on the desk and listening to those calls with them and agents them and producers them and networks I learned you know

everything yeah that's cool that you say that because you know even when I see if you go to any agency for instance and you see the mailroom department you know all those kids are the future of the industry right they but they're you know had the grueling job mm-hmm you know you when Andy Feroge was an assistant to one of the agents at at CAA he had you know most assistants have their own like cubicle outside the office this agent wanted Andy in his office so his Andy Feroge's office was just in this guy's room so he would just get yelled at mm-hmm you mean all day but you know there was always a smirk mm-hmm with the

agent you know man just putting this kid through the ringer oh yeah but Andy was so fucking just gung-ho about it because he knew it was all in jest mm-hmm and that he's just learning everything you need to know I think that's a very cool thing that you did that I learned so much from that job like I had to read you like you know 15 to 20 scripts a week I'd sit in on notes calls and then I met that's how I met Andrew and that's also why I met John Lujuali so much of my career started well wait so I want to know that meeting I Andrew was a client there and I was the assistant be like hi Andrew you coming in tomorrow at you

know whatever and then and then did you guys okay so did you guys hit it off yeah we hit it off on the Chicago thing yeah Andrew such a nice guy and then I started doing videos with John Lujuali who was on the league he's great he's great and he and I hit it off as well so you know he just moved from Canada I'm just moved from Chicago we're both like the Midwest nice hi sorry everything and we went to shows to UCB together and I was like I'd love to help with your comedy videos on like nights and weekends when I'm not here so I started shooting his YouTube stuff wow and then John was like we should get some of the

underground clients are like anyone you know funny in this and we put Andrew in one and that was the first time we like really worked together but that was John and I and a handheld camera how long ago 2000 and probably 10 or 11 wow so then you go from there to how do you meet I got like okay so there's a couple of things that you do right you you obviously you know you know did this show what would do which is a regular TV show and scripted and whatnot right but you're also known for doing music videos correct and so how do you hook up with a guy like Diplo so the the quick version is I had to get off that no

quick this is your episode oh wow no quick this is your up thank you Bobby I had to get off that desk is an assistant and I had to and I watched you know how people are getting signed in Hollywood with music videos or viral videos or a script I wrote a bunch of scripts I couldn't get anyone to read them so I made a fake trailer for a fake movie that I knew would never get made called flesh lightning about a kid who stumbles upon he buys it from James Hong and he buys a flashlight a magical flashlight and he's banging it and gets struck by lightning and then it pregnates the porn star who was molded

after Jenna Hayes wow and I somehow convinced fleshlight I just cold called them I found their number online I was like hi I'd like to talk to someone in your PR department I was like hey I have this viral video I want to try to make and I need a little bit of money and they're like cool yeah let's do it and they put up the money I made this thing wow yeah and I pulled every favor while I was on the desk a lot of my friends from film school were like assisting on set in the camera department and this and the other also from my time like I got an amazing production designer who worked on big movies that my boss has

made and they also helped me cast it but that was the first thing to like get me an agent and a lawyer and help me sell my first script wow so you do the flesh light short right lightning short right it does it's it's good right because I had heard of it and then all of a sudden you got an agent from that right and then you were able to go into real rooms and pitch your shit yeah that was like got me the first like I did generals everywhere from that short and while still an assistant which was intense so I had to schedule the meetings like perfectly so an intern could cover the phones while I like went and amazing dude

amazing but then how did dip dip do so dip dip came from you know from 2011 like 2012 I'm just reaching out to bands and making music videos for them like finding their Instagram or their managers Instagram and like bombarding them and then I stumbled into a bar and saw this band Necrogobble con play my neighbor and my good friend Randy was like you want to come see this band Necrogobble con I was like yeah sure why not I love everything and we're listening the album on the way there and I was like man this is so technical and masterfully written this is either gonna be like one guy in his computer like

12 boogie myth assholes just like and we walk in there and it's just seven dudes masterfully playing this music but they just look like dudes and I thought it was so funny their commitment to writing these intense songs about goblins like I want to make a music video for you and they're like yeah we've heard that all before like we don't want to dress up we're not gore and I took a trip to Chicago and I visited my mom Wisconsin the drive back and I sat at Pippin's bar and I just like this this character like spewed out of me and I wrote it I pitched to the band they're like yeah let's do it we have no money so I've

reached out to like 80 brands relentlessly like here's who I am here's my previous videos blah and I got three to pay for it and we put it out I didn't I didn't think anything was gonna come from it but on like the third or fourth date it was on the front page of reddit and then the day after that Diplo just tweeted the word necrogalbacon and then I got in touch with his manager and yeah bro that's a great bro you hustle bro bro I got the chill bumps on my fucking skin right now yeah I'm getting teary eyed hey yeah I'm gonna say something deal alright this isn't a dude right that that's its idol that's nepotism this

isn't a dude that comes from Hollywood royalty right this is a dude that went to Colombo Colombo University right came out here waited I mean what couldn't wait tables hosted couldn't wait hosted at places right and but what I love about it is is that it's a guy that everything that you have right wasn't handed to you you are the one because for imagine making phone calls to fucking you know companies going hey I don't even know who to call PR PR department you know I mean hi you know imagine doing all the footwork that you need to do and it's so funny about him because if you look back at Diplo when I told my agent

no right that wasn't enough for him he went to Andy Andrew Santino and go dude you gotta make the call convince him right most people are like oh we'll have to find somebody else not this guy he knew who what he wanted right so he made the effort I'm sure that even if the Andrew Santino didn't work out he would find another another angle my point is is that you know that's just who he is I know what other angle he would have taken after Andrew what he would have used the mad TV connection to the character that you played right no who did you play who did I play where yeah just go ahead go ahead no no go ahead what do

you mean the man you played a manager right I played a man oh okay that's right there you're right yeah wait what no this is it this is it so you mean through Clyde yes so in Diplo show I play a manager who was based on a real guy and his name is Kevin Kevin I love Kevin so Kevin the guy that I played on your show you're right now okay okay so there right so but when I was on Matt TV Kevin's dad frequently did Matt TV because I always requested him because if you ever see Star Trek or Godzilla or any of these movies there's always a Japanese man the in the same guy that I always you know whenever I saw Clyde on

a movie back in the 80s I mean oh there's that guy again because I guess being an I minority you just kind of cling on to people that look like you so you there was a host of five dudes that were working you know I mean so I became friends with Clyde's a great guy but it was so maybe that would have been an angle that he could have used is that what you're saying yeah because that that that sits deeply with you yeah in fact that was one of the first stories you told me about the character that you were playing yeah I yeah you're probably right I would have done that I have no shame that's what it kind of comes down

to I'll just like I was scared I was like Andrew I hate asking favors but like I really want Bobby we all really want Bobby he was the top on the casting directors list we just got the call he's out we are all so bummed I'm sorry and then the next day you are on Doe boys another one of my favorite podcast I'm like fuck this is rubbing in my face I gotta somehow get to Bob but it's but it's not only that but it's like I've noticed you recently too because last week you called me mm-hmm right and I didn't respond to you I know you know how does that feel it felt fine okay thank you I knew you saw it I figured you yeah

yeah I did see it right I have a reminder when you're recording this podcast to attempt to remind you about yeah so you know I want Brandon to direct my comedy special my stand-up special and if when I when I get when I get it done when I have it done right you're gonna direct it but you've been very proactive about reminding me but may I remind you though there weren't a fucking pandemic and I haven't done stand-up in fucking five months and you know I'm just waiting for this to subside mm-hmm until we get a vaccine or whatever the fucking country does mm-hmm and then we will get back into business of doing it

mm-hmm but that's why I didn't respond to you last week because I'm like I know that that's in your nature to be proactive mm-hmm right so um that being said fuck you yes thank you okay no you're gonna be my guy I love oh I know I know it's not that I'm not worried about losing the position yeah I'm just excited about it and want to keep stoking your excitement so we get it done but this is what I love about you man that's why um you know I I always want you in my life for the rest of my life I think you're super talented to like um thank you the talk about this talk show I did with the green goblin oh the

goblin so yeah I didn't even answer your question of Diplo but that yeah let's go no let's go back to dip dip but that but that also goes to the green goblin so Necrogoblin comes out Diplo tweets the word Necrogoblin I get on the phone with Kevin and he's like let's do a major laser video which is one of Diplo's bands and we made this music video and it went well and it just kind of snowballed from there where you know Kevin or or Wes or someone else from that team would come and be like hey Diplo's got a music video or we got I wrote this video that Warner Brothers passed on for a different artist and I sent it to them and

I'm like I want to make this and they're like oh we got this guy Dylan Francis he would love this and then I started working with him through that and then yeah and then what would Diplo do came about because Diplo is like I need a trailer for my upcoming tour my Mad Descent block party his record labels called Mad Descent and at the time I took a few meetings where executives were like we want to do a show about DJs whether it's like entourage or ballers and I'm like man these guys are so not that but also some friends back home were like man he must be so lit and crazy and so I wrote what I thought people wanted

me to tell them Diplo is like this super handsome white guy who's like yo it's lit and like always surrounded by women and money I was like maybe James Vanderbeek could play him he kind of no honestly that's how it came about yeah so wow so then I I had my manager send James the script and my real and he's like yeah I'm down if I can meet with the director and James's only caveat was like can there be a fight scene in this thing absolutely yeah and we made the the trailer and then we put it out to promote the tour I never thought you know anything else would come from it and then Nick Widenfeld who was at Viceland at

the time was like I think this is a show and he showed it internally to like Eddie Moretti and Spike Jones and they were like yeah maybe this is a show Wow wild wild so now I'm on the show here's what's sad about what would Diplo do it's bittersweet it's not even sweet really yeah um yeah that number one I'm gonna get emotional but it could be one of the my most favorite things I've ever done thank you no it's not you okay fuck me I love you yeah yeah no it's because I love James a lot he's done Tiger Belly mm-hmm and we've we've also had Dylan Francis on twice mm-hmm so James I met James and Dylan on what

would Diplo do obviously I knew I met you through that but it literally was kind of like so weird and quirky and I just thought like this is this could go and so when we shot the fucking show we did a season how many episodes five five episodes I thought okay this is my new thing it just never happened again I know and it was a bummer because we got critical to claim like we got a good rotten tomatoes we have really good reviews out there but the powers that be what you can watch on a Hulu right it's no longer on Hulu it lapsed it's on Amazon Prime and iTunes mm-hmm it's on iTunes and Amazon Prime yeah want to

check it out Bobby's great in it okay you you crush it you're funny you improv you gave us all the gold and then also this this scene at the baseball stadium yeah I did you know what it's so grounded that's what was great about it so talk about the neck or neck neck around neck or gobble con so yeah after that video blew up I've been like the silent band member of that band ever since like I work with the band in the creative direction of John gobble con I run his socials and such and since then he's now got a talk show we I we were approached by a publishing company I wrote his book that you can now go John gobble

con to life yeah oh yeah oh yeah and then I'm hoping there's more in the works but this talk show and you're so sweet to drive all the way downtown and do this yeah he's got a talk show where he interviews guests and they talk for that was a cheap a very funny funny weird interview it was amazing yeah I thought it was really good who's done it who's been the guest on that shit I had Joe Truman from fallout boy Wow West Borland from limp biscuit was there who was freaking out that you were showing up after he's stuck around for you to walk oh did I did I introduce you I remember I remember him yeah yeah yeah um we've

had on Keith Buckley from every time I die who is in what would Diplo do yeah yeah I love Keith um who else have we had he's the best keep up Keith Buckley's the best of every time I die um Whitney Moore super funny um lots of lots of folks well listen buddy number one you came down that was so sweet of course I was gonna come down for you frucker I love you so fucking much dude I really do I know I love you I really do love you so fucking much I love you too that's why you're here you think that you're here because you're some famous guy no how many times have we asked you to do

the show multiple times yeah exactly who canceled be be real David Spade he can't oh but he had to move things around okay fair he never know that's not true also we can get a hold of him so on George's episode on George's episode you talk about how um you never want the producer to reach out to you to be on podcast yeah yeah and then George reached out to me because I called you I facetime you last week for the week the weekly like hey I'm still excited about this I screenshot in my face smiling so you knew all right well I'll be honest the way it happened last night I go who's the guest and you said I said

Dermot and I go oh cool fair you think you think that let me ask you something you think that I know what the fuck is going on true fair fair you think that I have a calendar he doesn't know all the other times I've asked you to do okay oh I've been asked a lot I don't know what the fuck is going on yeah yeah all right but you're on top of it like I'm what would Diplo do you were like there every day I don't know what's going on ever you do you do thank you remember the tea at says like you knew your schedule so well of like I'm traveling I'm doing stand-up I can't be here for this like you were on

top yeah yeah god oh god this fucking pandemic remember the days oh yeah we had fucking a lot of life yeah yeah so you want anything to promote myself I just have music videos and commercials coming all the time I've chosen development that hopefully one day we'll see the light of day Bob will brandon derma is on Twitter and also Instagram Instagram is verified oh wow are you verified yeah yeah yeah what would Diplo do to that I don't know what happened you know because you're special mm-hmm and directors rarely you know at your level get verified that's because you're on your way up thank you I really

believe you're on your way up I think and also you know me and Andrew you know if you know this but um you and I are gonna pitch a bad friend show mm you know maybe you can direct I would love to you know you are you guys are some of my two favorite people we love you so much you know um but you know I think you know a horror show goes at the end we do a thing called unhelpful advice yeah and maybe you're little you can get a little quirky Midwest oh sure you know I mean yeah oh I just want to say one more thing it's derma who always sends me links every time junko jeans what do you call it

they're closing sale yeah going under they're always going under they're like a rug shop on Ventura that's always right and they haven't gone under since it's their inception so but every time now they have overalls that you just sent me mm-hmm very happy about that you guys should get sponsored by Jinko I feel like you guys should be sponsored by Lou Melnati's and Jinko is that how you pronounce it Jinko Jinko Jinko jeans Jinko I wanna say Janko I want to be sponsored by a lot of people I said Jank is that a Filipino thing I it's a Filipino thing I just I like it's just like when you say wait hold on

Janko boo I always say boo boo like remember how people used to say Ruka me rock that is it is it I don't know is it Ruka it's Ruka oh what are we talking about I was just thought it was Ruka because and I thought it was like ran by a Latino person and it's not it's a Hawaiian brand okay Ruka means like chick this is just the thought processes of a Karen can't say that Bob that's like the n-word man oh he's projecting I'm projecting my own shit wait but Bob whenever the world is ready or even before that I'm ready for you I know already dude I'm ready I'm ready to start filming where are some of these

ideas for the special no let's go one unhelpful advice I'm hopeful vice with Bobby Kalala and Brandon Derrick my father used to drive into school when I was in seventh grade one day he left our house at a normal time around 7 a.m. and everything seemed normal we saw kids walk into the nearby elementary school and the normal radio program was on however when I arrived to school there were no kids or cars I walked into my classroom and everyone was already watching a movie I was two hours late my father was also two hours late for work we lost two hours of time with no blackout or a recollection of what may have happened

everything was completely fluid my theory is that maybe we passed through a spontaneous wormhole that shifted us in either in time or dimension this would potentially mean through in our old dimension we are missing persons and I can't help but be sad for how our family and that world has felt all these years thoughts how do I figure out what really happened to us we have pen and paper if you guys need any help just made me think of like a Twilight Zone episode mm-hmm has that ever happened in your life where you kind of blacked out for that amount of time no maybe in college but yeah I've never fully fully

blacked out but there were times and like my peak anxiety and I blamed my anxiety where I felt like I would wake up from a nap at like my sister's house and I could not for the life of me snap back into reality like I was caught in some caught in some like psychological limbo of feeling like I was not really living on this earth and it happened for a few hours and I would sit there and cry I would tell my sister like wake me up can you wake me up she's like you're awake I'm like wake me up like I was trapped so I don't know if I was a part of me was in a different dimension and just kind of in a limbo between two

different dimensions but I don't know that that that seems like that does seem like a Twilight I get that with the anxiety though I call it like time consumption when I'm having a panic attack my anxiety is at peak level time is irrelevant and I just waste time panicking guys I don't think I've ever blacked out like that it happened to the father and son okay and the odds of both of them having anxiety attack and having two hours go by that quickly is so I'm gonna say something number one the X-files pilot had that so it could be in the work of some alien my point is it looks like the work of the little

grays so you think they were taken and then you know what the little grays are what are they little great little spacemen that's right but it's not they're just not little spacemen they're actually the first alien species that had contact with the our planet and they live amongst us in these underground bunkers military bases they're here yeah tell up what they have telepath yes they're here I don't like your tone I'm looking up X-files the pilots oh yeah they have telepathic abilities they don't have vocal cords they and communicate and I do have a little gray story that I'll tell on another podcast but it's

true you feel like they've gotten a hold of you not me personally but when I was 18 years old I was in Lemon Grove and I was at an AA meeting and there was a man in a suit there he looked like he was in the FBI and he goes hey kid my name is Max I go are you gonna bless me that's whenever whenever a man in a suit they look like Tommy Lee Jones yeah when they they already asked me you know I mean hey kid I was asked are you gonna bless me so I go and then I became friends with this guy and then one day he looked like he had been through like an alcohol oh drug binge he didn't have a suit on anymore he kind of had like a

Hawaiian shirt like I have on now looks scraggly and he goes you may never see me again kid I'm this is not a lie I'm not making this up and I go and this could be just a crazy white man who I just happened to run into I go what's going on and he goes well you know I I worked for the local FBI San Diego FBI or something there's no there's a local FBI every city has their own FBI right I thought it was a federal thing yeah but they have their own like agents and officers right and I go he goes yeah and I got any goes well I'm not no no longer living there living out of my working there I living out of my van so he had

this van parked in back of this a meeting it was like a church and in the in his I'm not kidding you I saw his van in the van there were like shotguns like on these racks right like stuff like computer wires and all that kind of stuff but then he had files files upon files of like documents you know I mean and he would open them up and he go and he was telling me about these little grays I'm not kidding you right and then I never saw him again you got to find this guy he's probably dead why did he say you would never see him again what was his reason I don't know what the reason was but I never did see him again

hmm what were in those files alien shit man I just told you that man and you saw it with your own eyes yeah man real fucking military files on the fucking little grays man you know the lead the former lead singer blink when 82 Tom DeLonge has a show on the history channel right now all about UFOs well didn't he start that yeah and he's the producer on it yeah yeah also I went to high school with them did you know that I didn't know that did you really yeah it was two years before me when I first came to California while still in film school to look for a place to live I saw him on the street I said Tom what are

you doing here and he said what are you doing here the second thing I wrote down ex files but the second thing I wrote down about this guy story and this I'm not assuming anything before we continue someone on the internet called me blink 182 times that's a good money that's a really good that's a new place I have excessive blinking from anxiety Bob did you see blink 182 in high school like when you were growing up they weren't they didn't start the band then okay yeah it was only when I graduated that's when they started the band there was another band locally called unwritten law oh yeah yeah in my

town too that's awesome I had a weird high school you know I came from there and also a couple years after before me was Stephanie Seymour she was a supermodel yep yeah yes that she dated Axel Rose a baby with Axel Rose so yeah we have a really weird a la Marta you know what you know and I don't want to talk about highway hi because they still haven't put me I've heard about you know that video that music video for November rain yes wasn't it Stephanie Seymour and she had that no wedding pussy and I never ever imagined myself ever getting married and I was younger but I remember in my head I was like oh that's

the dress I'm gonna wear the other unhelpful advice I want to say about the thing is is that two hours and I'm not saying this has happened but it something traumatic could have happened in that two hour that you blocked so maybe there's a late for work for the some other he was wasted maybe maybe the dad and the son experienced something right that was so traumatic that they blocked it in their head and they showed up he just showed up at school or your dad just woke you up late try to pass it off like he wasn't a bad parent and got you to school two hours like so that's the third and then try to make it seem

like that's the obvious thing and now you've grown up thinking of this your whole life yeah did you guys see that documentary hidden in plain sight abducted yes abducted in plain sight and that that poor girl grew up for how many years thinking she met aliens and yep you know what I mean all from a lot that was the most enraging documentary yeah I felt really sad oh is that the guy that the perverted man yeah and then the family just kept letting her go back to this person over and over again they kept forgiving him because you know they're Mormon and they're forgiving remember that I hate that I mean I'm just just by

him bringing that up yeah it just brings me back through I blocked that documentary it's very gruesome it's effective and for the lengths this man would go through to to make it seem as though that there was some type of alien connection and they were living in that trailer in Mexico somewhere yeah and with the tapes and the messing with the audio that poor girl and the woman that she grew up to be it she's so she's so self-aware of what happened and has like processed it and their family is intact yeah like they are all talking about it like yeah this happened but we're really close and I'm like how do

you even forgive your parents after that yeah oh I want to throw out another documentary that has nothing to do with what we're talking about yeah but it's called Jasper Mall I don't know it it's a little quirky little documentary and it's about a mall in in the south that's closing down it's like you know in a small town called Jasper I don't know Arkansas or whatever but it just shows you know the stores and you know the old men playing you know Domino's at the court yeah and it's really depressing but it's really cute and I really highly recommend it I also want to recommend to the people listening to really get

involved with Brandon Durmer and what he's doing in his life because he's our family and we are gonna be doing a many many many projects together and I also want to say God bless America and God bless the US of A and we're gonna make through this yes we will let me ask you something George did your episode do remotely better than any of the other episodes that's not good that's not good that's not bad that's not good either as a longtime fan of the show I was excited to hear the George episode and then did you feel as though we did God we didn't why did you say that give him his we didn't

give him the limelight Bobby refused to I said okay we're gonna ask George from beginning I thought about his life and he's like nope that's not what we're gonna do all right guys guys I give this I really shut the fuck up man all we're done we're done all right okay I want to give Brandon a round of applause give him a round of applause he was a great cast I really enjoyed thank you for having you Bob Kalilah clap for yourself oh thank you yeah hey guys thanks again to everyone over at tiger belly patreon if you're a member you already know what a great community we have over there people just like you if

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