TigerBelly - Ep 264: Jo Koy's Self-Help Pep Cult

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

Bobby gets punched on the way to 3rd base. Jo gets cocky and arrogant. Khalyla swims in hurricane floods. We talk raspberry bibingka, Bobby's daughter, and awkward encounters with Eddie Murphy. www.patreon.com/tigerbellyPlease support our sponsors.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening ad-free on Wondery Plus. Music I'm joking. You know that was a joke, right? Come in and be cool, you know what I mean? Because you're hanging out with Chappelle. I know the levels that you're at now. You're doing fucking Cuervo fucking commercials. Oh, yeah.

Cuervo's the number one. And then you're like, my mom, let's toast. I said all that, you know what I mean? Let's toast. I'm number one Cuervo. You know what I mean? The great tequila. Obviously you've noticed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look at me. You know, look at me go. That's you. Thank you. That's you now, dude. Appreciate it, man. Yeah. I'm grateful that you're even here, bro.

Thank you. You know, but I'm taking it all in. I take it all in, but I'll tell you this right now. Yes, sir. Your ankles suck. Yeah, they got bit up. Yeah, yeah. I hate your ankles.

I saw your forearms today. Bro, you know anything you say that is disrespectful, no one takes seriously. Yeah, I understand that. You do know that, right? Yeah, that's okay. No one is ever offended by anything you say. Like, you're ugly.

Your ankles suck. Your arm. No one cares. I know. But that's good. That's really good. I know. That's why, bro, that's why I could throw it out.

Because I know that you're not like a little baby. I love you so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I talk about your forearms? Can I talk about your forearms just real quick? For sure. Yeah, yeah. You have like blotchy hair here.

Yes. No hair here. Sparse. It's sparse. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And your ankles? Yes.

No bueno. Yep. Por favor. Cool. Like I said, no one takes anything seriously. And that's all I want to know. You're like a living cartoon. Wow.

You know what I mean? Like you. Wow, that's what I wanted. I know. I wanted you to fucking come back at me. No, I'm not. I would never come back at you. Tip for tat.

On guard. On guard. I value everything about you. Our friendship, your success. Yeah. What you've done for us. Like, I have nothing but compliments. For us, what, Asians?

Just for us. Up and coming. Yeah, to be honest, yeah. We're the same. We're the same class of people. We're not up and coming. Hey, man. You and I came up to get.

Hey, man, I ain't running for office, bro. You can slow down with the PC rap. All right, bro. All right, bro. We're not up and coming. Yeah. Shut up. All right.

Okay. So that's called a compliment. Thank you. And what you've done is amazing. And it should be recognized. And don't let PC not let you take that. Like, yo, you're, you're a dope comedian. Hands down.

I've never said that. But before anybody else. No, I never said that. You're a dope comic. Yes. Comet. Yes. You're, you're a fucking amazing comic.

What I'm saying is before any of us was in the limelight and you were doing it, you inspired us. And you need to hear that. And sometimes you never reckon. And then you get mad at me for fucking giving you a compliment. I didn't because I thought it was, I tell you that every fucking time, bro. Washing my clothes in my studio apartment in Vegas and you're on mad TV. Even though you told me years prior, you need to move to LA or nothing's going to happen.

That's called inspiration. So do you want to do your dumb joke about my ankles? Yeah. Okay, go ahead. Well, what you just said, it felt good. It felt deliciously good. And I said it in my book. Where's my camera?

Yeah. Yeah. And my, my heart went flutter flutter. I really did. I talked about it in my book, but your ankles. Yeah. No boy. No.

I understand. I get it. Okay. I'm reality. So what you're saying to me is that I look like I was drawn. What I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah.

Just what I'm saying. Get specific. You're a living cartoon. What does that mean though? Like you could run into a wall and we don't laugh. Right. So you, cause you thought it was a cave. Right.

But you, so you think that I look subhuman. Someone painted it there and you didn't know. Oh, right. When I walk, I go bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I get it. All right. So I don't look human. No. You think I'm cute though. I love everything about you, man. All right.

You know, you're the most genuine guy out there. All right. You know, do you do well with compliments or no? I don't know why you don't. I don't know why. You know how hard it is to give someone a compliment? Do you even know how hard that is? Yeah.

It's not the, not the fact that you can't accept it, but do you know how hard it is to give? It's harder, bro. Don't you think some people are really good at it though? Yeah, but you can see, you can, you can tell when someone's not being sincere. That's true. Like humans know how to read other humans. Like, you know, like when someone's giving you a compliment and you walk away, you go, that dude was full of shit.

You know that. There are people like love bombers who are so good at just like really gassing someone up. That's, that's what I'm talking about. Gaslighters, you know, I know a gaslighter. I've dated two gaslighters and I hated it. I fell for the fucking potion. I was on stage one.

But there's no reason to gas like you, Bobby. I'm your fucking friend. I was in the OR once and I was, you know, on stage and I saw a comic like through the window in the back, just like he was making so much. He was like throwing chairs, right? For what? I don't know. He was just fucking around, you know what I mean?

Acting a fool outside, disrupting my set. While you're on set. And I'm just looking through the window. I'm doing fine, you know, and then I get off and he wanders into the OR and he goes, great set, dude. Oh, yeah. And I went, I saw you do fucking, you know, that's a play outside. You're doing monkey play outside.

But I did that. What is that called? Gaslighting. Gaslighting is denying someone's reality. So it's like saying, if you told me something like you're a fucking bitch, right? You told me that. And then let's, let's real play. Okay.

You go ahead. I'm saying filthy bitch monkey. Okay. No, no, no. I'm calling that. And then tomorrow comes, right? Yeah. And then say, and I say, I'm still upset about when you called me a bitch.

And you say, I didn't say that. Oh, let's do it. Let's replay that. Okay. All right. You know, let me finish. All right. You fucking mud monkey.

You fucking dirt. Respect my people. Your skin is dirt, baby. So Philippines is so good. Yeah. You can live in a tree with a banana. Yeah. I mean, for years, you get the fuck are you conned?

Right? Okay. I don't think that's, I think that's prejudism. What you guys, I don't think that's right. That's not gaslighting at all. That's racism. Prejudism. That's hating another ethnicity.

Yeah. That's racism. Let's do it. Let's start over. Yeah. Let's start over. Let me, let me do gaslighting. Yeah.

Let's do it. You do it. Yeah. You do it. This is gaslighting at its best. I'm gonna take it to a racist point. No, I won't. I'll play it out.

I'll play it non-racial. But you have to deny. Play it as Bobby though. I'll play it. Play it as Bobby. You want me to play real bro? I want you to play as Bobby because I'm just gonna give you a real quick hint of gas. Okay.

Go ahead. How good it is. All right. Go ahead. You ready? Yeah. You say action. All right.

Rolling. Action. Who's your manager again? Her name is Abby. I mean, is she taking a break during COVID? What? And now that starts a flame. Right.

Right. Because now you're like, wait. You just pissed me off. Exactly. No, no, no, no. I think that's personal. Wait, I think that's just... Stop.

No, stop. No, that's gaslighting. No, no, no, no. What? That person is saying that Abby's not working for itself. Why? Because I'm not flowing out to Miami to hang out with Dave Chappelle. Is that why?

No. What the fuck are you talking about? This wasn't a real conversation, asshole. I'm showing you what gaslighter does. What are you attacking me? All right. Hang on. I think it's a completely different definition of it.

Because I think gaslighting is somebody who makes you believe you're crazy and makes you believe... No, no. You're 100% right. But gaslighting is starting a flame that shouldn't have even been started. So now he's thinking that, wait a minute. Are you talking about my manager? And then you go home and you go, well, wait, is Abby working for it?

You are fucking with his reality. You started a gaslight. You started a mini flame that didn't need to be there. And I've dated two girls that did that shit to me. And I'll call them out, man. Literally that was one of the things that was used was my business. And I was like, whoa, I started questioning my agency because a small flame was started. And then I'm like, well, I think this bitch just wanted that agent out to get another

agent in. Wait, why would they... I don't want to get into that. But I like this game. Let me start one. Well, you're going to start another game called prejudice. No, I'm not going to. No, but go ahead.

Is this gaslighting? Is this gaslighting? Go ahead, Bobby. All right. Hey, man. I'm a pink cushion. Say action. Jesus.

Rolling and action. Quite on the set. Quite on set. Extras go ahead. Rolling and action. Oh, wow. Good to see you, man. Good to see you.

Good to see you. Yeah. All my friends that are losing their hair out, they've got hair plugs, you know, and it looks real good. That's pretty good. Yeah. It looks really good and natural on them. I wonder why somebody with money, you know what I mean, and access wouldn't...

You know what I mean? Participate in that. Yeah. Uh-huh. It's not that good. Like... Like, that wasn't good. That still wasn't as good as mine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, question. I mean, it's still good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we still talk about all the nasty shit you said about Filipinos about the gaslight? Can we go to that? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That wasn't about Filipinos.

Yes. Joe, yes. Fuck you. Oh, my God. Let's go, let's go into this because he always waged the war. Now, can I just say... You know I love you so much, right? And it has nothing to do that, you know, this triangle right here is directly from the Philippines.

But did you see how I gaslighted that? You did. I just started. Oh. Don't play everyone. You gaslighted me and now she wants to act on it. Wow, you're fucking crafty, huh? And that's why I'm successful.

You're like a Sith Lord. Wow. That you are very successful. Where's my camera? You know... Kim's the comedy? Yeah. The Godzilla?

Yeah. What's funny about you is... God, you have always been the same guy and I love you, man. What does that mean? It's just, this is you, dude. You're fucking Bobby Lee, man. I love it. So are you looking at this place like, wow, look at what a childlike fantasy play that

he's got going. No. Now, see, this is you adding. Like, I don't know what the fuck you're doing. The chocolate chip cookies were perfect and then you threw pecans in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't want pecans. I threw the pecans in.

Yeah, and everyone hates pecans. Yeah, because I have a floofy, I have a floofy fucking Beverly Hills coffee. Cookie shop. I don't even know what that means. I just tried to compliment you, man. I love everything about you, man. Like, I love this room. I just feel like you're being sarcastic.

This room is fucking... Are you being sarcastic? Bro. Can you get help? We live in the land of therapy. I know. I know. I'm in therapy.

I'm in therapy. I don't think you're going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in therapy. You're right. Thank you so much. You would have the most, you too should get a coffeehouse. It would be the sickest coffeehouse.

I think we should. And you should just, this room right here, just put it in there. This is so sick, man. With us though. I love this room, bro. We have really like childlike sensibilities. We don't know how to be like the adult, adult decor. No, I never, I love all this stuff.

If you saw my house, it's not like yours. Yours is really like, no, it's really dope, dude. Like I love it. You've always been this guy. I've known you for so long and this is truly your passion, like what you collect. It's beautiful. This is like an extension of you. If you had a Bobby Lee coffeehouse, it'd be so dope, man.

Oh, I think what you would, you would you invest in it? 100%. We'll both just think about it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, 100%. We'll have a little stage in there. There's got to be a stage.

I already took, I already told somebody about that. And we're doing that too. We can do all in another state. I'm building that with somebody. Let's do an alt comedy, like an alternative comedy night. Please don't say alt. Yeah. Why?

Just say comedy. You like alt comedy? What the motherfucker? Do you like country? Like, I don't. What does that mean? Yeah. It's like, because there was a time because there was a time in comedy, right?

There was a division. There was there was good and bad. That's not go there, but there was, you know, you there to go to you had club comedy, right? And then you had comedy, like that was done, you know, in like laundry mats and coffee shops. But that has nothing to do with comedy. I did laundry. I practiced my tonight show set in a fucking weed shop with the refrigerator open. Oh, you did.

Yeah. The whole set. I ran it. Yeah. My five minutes at a weed shop right there on Lancashire. So I don't need to don't tell me that you're alt comic because you did stand up at a fucking kebab hut. I did stand up in a goddamn Jewish restaurant on top with opening for Sandy Hackett.

You want alt comedy? I started in nightclubs. I used to rent theaters. You'll go fuck yourself. If you're not funny, you're not funny. Wow. Wow. Are there people that make it that you don't think is funny?

No, because Bobby, no, there's I'm not even like trying to be funny. Comedy is subjective. There we go. I mean, and then and when you that's like asking a rapper, is there a country music you don't like? He probably doesn't like any of the country music because he's not a country singer. Oh, wow. That's very good point.

So yeah, like just because this man does puppets and this guy does impersonation and this guy does magic. Who the fuck are you to tell him he's not funny? Yeah. Fuck you, dude. I love. Yeah, I love. Don't shit on someone's career, man.

I did it. No, I'm saying I'm speaking. I'm speaking to the masses. I was just asking a question and I'm glad you did. Yeah, yeah. Like anyone that anyone that throws anyone that throws salt on someone else's career. Yeah. You're you're insecure on your own shit.

Oh, right. I get it, bro. I'm not. I saw you. It's a bone at me because people like to fall on that and if there's no disrespect to you, Bobby, like you're you're here comes a disrespect. No, I'm not saying that, but it's just like, don't throw this all shit for you saying that you're not funny.

I love all comedy. I'm not talking to you. I love. Yeah. I'm not talking. I love all comedy. I love. I love funny people.

Yeah. If you make me laugh, I like I'm going to make a point, right? One time I was at the improv and I saw Kara Top, right in the car, like on Melrose and he wouldn't go in. I think he was going to perform and I go, come on in. You know, and he goes, yeah, you're your comedy comics don't really generally like me. You know, and why is I know, I know, I know.

And for years, you know, people would make Kara Top jokes and rip on them. And I never really got that. I don't get it every time I perform, I see him perform. He would crush. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay, he has props, but they're clever. Some of them and they have and some of them have made me laugh really hard.

That's one lane to exist and there's like 50,000 lanes to exist. I've never been. You clearly said what what like what I said, I know, I know, it's different genres. I know, I know, I don't like never been like that. I love all female, like a lot of female comics. I love, you know, guitar acts. I love, you know what I mean, dancing's, you know, I like hypnosis, you know, I love all that stuff.

I know you. Yeah. But I love, I love funny. Yeah. If you make me laugh, we're good. Yeah. If you don't make me laugh, work on your shit. Yeah.

Or don't. Yeah. No one's laughing in the crowd. Will you? Obviously it's not funny. But will you admit though, could you admit this that there are people doing comedy that shouldn't be doing it? Yes.

There's a million of them. Yeah. But do you tell them they shouldn't be doing it or you just let them do it for me to say. Yeah. I'm good. I know where I'm at. Yeah. But, um, Mitzi Ashour always said it is a sin to support mediocrity.

Well, and then she, her point of view was you have to tell them to stop. Yeah. But that's her role. Right. Like, let she, she's, you know, I can't wait for that book to come out and I can't wait for a documentary to come out on that woman. And I, the only time I met her is with you, but I, you know, I didn't get to experience what she did for prior and what she did for kinesin and, you know, Carrie, well, I don't

was Jim Carrey there. Yeah. See, but like, you know, that, that was her job was to help mold and shape and help and provide a stage and a platform. But she was, she was wrong, right? I'll tell you how she was. Well, she was wrong a lot of times. A lot of times.

Yeah. I'll tell you one case in point. You. Oh, thank you. No, I'm being real. Yeah. You mean guys like you, she was wrong about George Lopez. Louis C.K.

She was wrong about Louis C.K. Mm-hmm. She was wrong a lot of times. So it's like, you know, again, it's like, it was based on her. Subjective. Subjective opinion. Yeah. One person.

Which is what I got at, at the beginning. Yeah. Comedy is subjective, man. Hmm. Yeah. That's great. I don't give a shit, man. Do you?

Because I still, I'm still pretty sensitive about certain comments and people, you know, criticizing me. Do you get? No. Oh, you don't? No. You don't read it? Yeah, I read it.

I don't care. Oh, you really don't? Yes. I want to get there. Do you want me to say something? I want you to help you get there. Very cocky and arrogant? Yeah.

Or do you want me to just say no? Be cocky and arrogant. Yeah. Be cocky and arrogant. That's it. There we go. No, no, I'm just saying. The proof is in the pudding.

And the reason why, the reason why I say that is like, why are you going to be offended by a guy that's writing a comment on IG in his mom's basement when you have a fucking house in the hills? That's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to be cocky and arrogant. I'm just saying, why would that comment offend me? I sold the form out twice in less than a day. Yeah.

Yeah. This 28,000 tickets, bro. No comps in Hollywood. No comps. I know. This fool right here. No. This fool right here in any other fucking timeline in the eight.

He would have had a cult because you're very, you're the type of personality that can, you know, because you're a clever guy, you know, okay, don't, don't, don't do your eyebrows like that. In confusion. Clever guy. Are you a shifty individual? What kind of comment? Comment.

You're clever. Yeah. You're witty. Okay. Can I say that? Yeah. We all are. We've been blessed with that.

You're witty. You're clever. You're, um, you're, you're bright. You know what I mean? You're, um, mischievous. What? You know me personally? Yeah.

Yeah. I do know you. I'm mischievous. You're mischievous. Is that how you say it? No, you can say it either way. Yeah. And, um, I think, but you're also charismatic.

And I think that no matter what you did in life, right, you would have been at the top of the game. Wow. Thank you. You know, give me a compliment. I started off this whole year giving you a compliment. Oh, that's true. Yeah.

How are you doing this? You know, I talk about you religiously. I've told you this before and I say it every time on your pod, man. Like you are, and you need to hear it, bro. You inspire a lot of people, man. You indirectly inspire me a lot. You motivate me. Take it in.

I'm like, I'm trying to take it in. I really do, bro. I think I talked about in my book about how you yelled at me in the car and I've told you this before, man. Yeah. I'm taking it in. It feels good. I'm in.

I'm in. Get on the shelf. You're a character. I've always loved you and, um, you know, I want to talk about what the fuck happened to our TV show. Oh, Jesus. Here we go. Here we go.

What? We you and I go to every fucking network, right? Do we shit on Hollywood? No, no, no. We don't shit on it. We don't shit on it, but you know, okay, well, then why do we see shows that shouldn't even stand a chance against you and I get on? Why are we having such a hard time selling?

We have so much power behind us saying that, that it should be on. I know. So you and I go in there. What is it? With Howie Mandel. Right. And we go to give any names, but yeah, who's a friend. He's not like a fucking enemy.

Well, I just don't want people like out there to be like, oh, they're dropping. I was just saying I'm not dropping anything. I'm just saying that I'm not saying that, but I don't want to call anybody out. Like, like, yeah, we walked into the room with with a lot of power. I didn't want to, you know what I mean? Yeah. All right. All right.

So we and we have our agencies behind us. We think we have a good idea and I think don't say think. I know. Yeah. And we and we've done it. We've done it. We did it seven years ago too. Yeah.

And they still know it's been a part of our life. And then we thought we thought, you know, him and I are growing in our own different ways in terms of the business and whatnot and in our audience and stuff. We thought that combined, you and I share some audience, but we have different, you know, audience. And we thought that with that, you know, then we come back this year and try to sell this thing. And still like there was just no traction really.

Yeah. I don't get it. I don't get it either. Do you think it's you guys pitch it during the beginning of the pandemic? No way before. Oh, before that. Yeah. And it doesn't matter when we pitch it.

There's something that's just not. I don't know what it is with Hollywood, man. It's mind boggling to me. It really is. And it hurts my feelings. Yeah. It hurts my feelings. That's the only thing.

And I say hurts my feelings because it's like, because I know that we are amazing together individually. Yeah. And together we're fucking enormous. Very funny together. Yeah. And we deserve it. Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah, we do. And it's, and it's like, I guess we have to pay for it ourselves again. It's like, that's the kind of world we live in. Why? Yeah. I'm doing it. And I will. It's going to happen.

Yeah. But whatever, man. Fuck it, dude. No, I don't. I'm not letting it go. No. Because by talking about it to people, because believe it or not, you know, I know a lot of people that are in the business that are like in, you know, the studio and the network

sides of things that listen to this, you know. And so they do go ahead and pitch it. No, but that that's what you call a humble break. And no, I'm not saying, no, because I've, you know, you humbly bragged about, no, but I've been at network table reads and an executive come after me after the, you know, and go no, so there's papaya or, you know, or all they'll say, you know, a catchphrase from Tiger Valley. Right.

So it's like, you get it, man. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you that we get it movies. Maybe you can make your case on here that we're trying to make a case on here. That's basically what I'm saying. Not everything needs to be defensive. Not everything has to be a twist.

You're the only one that's doing that. I think you're doing it. No, there's the, the jury's over there and you're convincing them you're not guilty. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Judge. How am I doing? Am I the one that? No, be real.

I will say you're moving a lot. He's had his legs in the same position the whole time. That's all I observed. So you're saying that my body language is in the defensive. Art of war, but moving a lot. Art of war. Yeah. I'm just a high energy kind of a guy.

You can't be the first to, to attack. I'm not attacking you. He's been placing his Prada shoe in front of the camera this whole time. Why didn't you wear the golden goose? Why didn't you wear the golden goose? I should have worn my golden goose. She just shown your shoes. I have my, I have my Gucci glasses.

Those are dope. My shoes match my jacket. So what I'm saying is that I think that we should still fight for the, you know, I, yeah, man, I, I even told Howie I'm willing to put up money for it and just make it. You know, I still get a little, you know, but I think this is a part of just being in a fucked up business that we're in. And the kind of people that we are, you know, I, there is a layer of sense of sensitivity that I have.

Right. So it's like, you know, I'm trying to take certain things personally, but there are certain things like, you know, a couple of months ago they announced we're doing an all Asian heist movie on, right, on, um, Amazon or I don't know where it was, right. And it had all these big Asian names in it, right. And in my head, I'm like, I'm reading the article about it and going, Oh, I won't be invited. You know what I mean?

I won't even have the opportunity. I'll, you know, because there are certain thing movements, especially when it comes to Asians that I feel like that I should be considered at least, I mean, maybe I'm doing being too cocky, right, but, but it, but it passes me by, even though I've, I've done things like, so called my agent, so what's going on with crazy rich Asians? Can you get me in? You know what I mean? And they're like, yeah, they're not, and I, you can't just get me in.

I'll read whatever. Yeah, they're not even, you know what I mean? And then you go, Oh, there's another train passing me by, you know, and it's like, at some point, you know, you get, it's hard not to get, take it personally, right? Do you get that way? No. Why? Because of the houses?

No. No, Bob, because I don't. Yeah. Because why would you let that fuck up your path in your journey? Because, because I believe that the show that you and I have, right, is another train, right? That it doesn't make any sense. That train isn't on your track, bro. Where's the train?

You're riding your train. You're on the train, man. I'm being very honest with you, man. That's like saying, that's like saying when I saw Kevin Hart sell out an arena and I'm mad. No, that's different. Well, why? Why don't I sell out arena?

That's completely different. No, it's not completely different because that's the same thing because I could clearly go, I could go, I could have went, wait, well, why am I selling arenas? Why can't I sell out arenas? That's not fair. Only he blah, blah. No, man. You, you're in your lane and you're in your path.

What did Kevin do to get that, make that happen? And then you just stay there. You stay in that lane and make that shit happen. That's a good point. You've, you've managed to put it because something past you doesn't mean that that's it. What you want is your desires there. You told it.

You told the universe what you want. Yeah, it's going to happen. Just stay right here, bro. Because when you keep looking at the culture, it's just saying Bob has to write a self-help book. You got to write Bob. It's not going to be funny. What I'm trying to say is when you're in this lane right here, okay?

And this is Bobby's lane. And if you're too busy concentrating on these trains passing you by, passing you by, oh, I should have been that movie. I should have been that movie. You stay right here watching them instead of staying right here focused and moving forward. Because whatever it is you want is in front of you. But if you're going to sit back and be in the track, you're going to be in the fan seats like this and watch the horse race run.

You're never going to win, bro. Get the fuck out of here. That's why he came here. That's why he came here. That's why he came here. That's why he came here. I don't. I don't.

I don't. I don't. You just, I think in many ways just now, right, you changed my life. I think you put me back on the train. Maybe you were always on the train. I'm trying to say you're on the train. No, no, no. But no, I'm not.

No, I'm now. I know I'm on. I was always, Gilbert, don't make me that. Don't give me that face. No, I'm trying to visualize what your train looks like. All my trains like this. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what? Like I said, when I, when I sat here, you're ahead of your time. You're a neon bullet train. You really are ahead of your time. When I said you've always been this guy, that, that wasn't a diss. That's really you. You've always been this guy. You've always been Bobby Lee.

The world's not ready for you yet. And so the fuck what? When it catches up, it's going to be huge, bro. It already is. I'll suck your dick. I'm just saying, I mean, I mean this every time. Can I leave here, bro? Whatever it is.

You can come on my mouth. I won't swallow. I will not. I will not. I've been holding back a lot during this quarantine. I will not swallow. You know what I mean? Huh?

I wonder what your cum tastes like. Probably. Yeah. Ponzu sauce. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of ponzu. I love ponzu.

I love ponzu. A tad of chlorine because that's what it all smells like. You know? Yeah. The third probably is some sort of like old golden coin that you would find in a treasure chest. Wealth. Yeah.

No, not wealth. It's like old wealth. Why? Because he ingests it? I don't know. I just feel like there would be some sort of coin. Yeah. I like that.

Yeah. Like an old coin. Like bronze. Like bronze. Joe, how would you describe his cum? If it was in your mouth. Oh. You remember those candies that were wrapped in rice paper?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You had to fight through it. But then you loved it.

Yeah. Yeah. Once the layer got out. When the layer melted. And it was a fun taste. Right. The initial. Yeah.

At first it was like, you know. There was a protection. There was a layer of protection. Is this plastic? Right. Yeah. And it dissolves. Yeah.

And then you get the fruit. And then you enjoy the nugget. The fruit. Yeah. The fruit of your labor. Yeah. Speaking of fruit and nuggets. God.

Isn't it unbelievable that chewy is gone? Yeah. That was sad. Dude. You really, you really made a hard left right now and you're going to make it emotional. That's sad. I don't know how he did that. I know.

You know how he was this very sweet man. Yeah. Yeah. He was very nice to my son. And I remember him riding around on, you know, his, his wheelchair. He would always like, we did that tour together, the comics to Chelsea lately. And he was the, the emcee of that show. And, and my son was just a little kid.

He was like, I don't know. I can't remember. And he, that was so big to him for Joe to sit on his lap and ride. You know what I mean? Cause I understand where he's coming from. Like, yo, I'm handicapped and, but there's one thing I can do. Joe, get over here. And he was so like, get on.

Come on. Get on. And it was really cute. And he'd always ride Joe around and my son loved it. So man, that was sad. That was sad to see him go like that. Like, I don't like dwarf born. I'm going to go.

No, I don't know. Just sit down for a second. I generally don't like it. You know, like, you know, sometimes I don't watch porn anymore, but you know, before, you know, they would suggest, you know, because of what I've been watching. You know what I mean? What have you been watching?

I don't know, but it would like give me like weird suggestions. You know what I mean? Like, you know, albino dwarf porn or whatever. Right. And I'd be like, no, you know, don't like it. But the one time. Is that a big iPad? Yeah, yeah.

I thought we were complimenting. We are. Okay. No, it's going to get there. Okay. I swear to God, it's going to get there. Okay. I hate it.

Right. Yeah. But I saw, you know, Chewy used to do that. Yeah. So I looked it up. I found it. Okay. I found a porn that Chewy was in.

And I saw the whole thing. Okay. That's how much I like. Rest in peace. And that's. Rest in peace. Cheers. The whole thing because I like the guy so fucking much.

I don't like it, right? But I love the guy so much. Yeah. I'm going to watch from beginning to end. And really understand the story. Yeah. Yeah. The story was great.

The story was great. Yeah. He was a pool, like a dwarf Mexican pool boy. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? Or pizza guy. I don't remember, but. Well, you didn't watch it.

Yeah, she didn't pay attention. But no, I honestly like. Was it a pool guy with a pizza? He was the nicest guy. Yeah. You know, you could be around. He's just, you know, the first time I met him, he would just sit right next to me. Are you doing good?

Yeah. You know what I mean? And just the nicest guy. And, you know, when did he pass? Last year. Was it last year? 2020? I think 2019, right?

Yeah. We were in Hawaii when we found out. Yeah. This 2020, babe. Yeah. What do you think of it? It's a funny one. It's a cute one.

Yeah. 2020. Super cute. I'm not going to lie, man. I love it. I know you were telling me outside. I really, really love it. I've never, uh, I've never understood how valuable time was until now to actually see my son

in front of my eyes grow is just like, wow, like I can't, I can't explain it. And, you know, being on the road and missing all the shit that I missed and, and taking time for granted, like, oh, I'll see him next week, not understanding how important this week was, you know, and all the, uh, yeah, it's a lot. You know, how are you dealing with him having to go to school at home? I hate it. I hate it. That's why he's doing bad.

And I don't care. Is he still allowed to hang out with friends? Yeah. He can hang out. Oh God, our poor teenager. You know, we have a teenager and, um, we have a teenager in the house. Yeah. And we had a kid for 17 years and no one fucking knew, you know, you know, you know, I had

a kid, right? Be real. Are you fucking with me right now? No. I thought you were joking. Yeah. Yeah. I've had a kid.

You're kidding, right? He said when you guys met in Vegas. No, Bobby. Look at my fucking face. I've always had a daughter. Juliana. Yeah. You're fucking with me.

No, no. I've always had a daughter. It's not Calila. It wasn't the mother. She's like the stepmother. No, I know that, but I didn't know you had a daughter. No. I have a daughter and she was with my one of my ex-ex-ex-ex-ex-girlfriends.

Also, Filipina. Also, Filipina. And she, um, she raised, you know, um, my daughter, Juliana, for about 14 years and now, but then Juliana lives with me now. Wow, bro. Yeah. You want to call her upstairs? Yeah.

She'd bring her down here. No. Why? Because she has to wear the mask and Bobby's sleeping. He has school, right? So she sleeps during, you know what I mean? No, no, no, I'm with you on that. My son, that's what he's doing right now, too. And I can't. You never, honestly. No, are you fucking you're fucking with one million percent, Bobby?

I had no idea. You don't know that I had a daughter. No, you've met her before. Bobby, no, I have not. He hasn't. I've never met your daughter. You must have. And I just met your brother two years ago, but I know I had a brother. But I always knew you had a brother. Yeah, you always knew I had a brother, but you never knew I had a daughter. I never I never knew you had a daughter.

You know why you don't never know I knew I had a daughter? Because you didn't tell me I'm not your friend. I don't I don't have one. I apologize. Cool. Yeah, cool. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I just he looked at me and I had to like go with it. There is a teenager here, though. We have a teenager. It's not my job.

But it's my niece. Yes, it's from the Philippines, from the Philippines. I felt so good, dude. Fuck you and your corona tequila for commercial. Number one with my mom being fuck you. I got you. Yeah. What you going to do, bro? Fro. Oh, that really sucks. What? Because I really believed you.

I know I don't have a dog. And guess what happens now? What? Trust is gone. No, what happens now? I don't trust you. No, you know what happens now is you you ride your bike because he rode his bike here. How do I ride it?

Right? Oh, right? Yeah, like a rick, like a rickshaw. Right. And you're going to go, I was bamboozled. Wow. Yeah. You were bamboo. Why do you hate Filipinos so much? I love them. That's a good question. No, you should really fucking love them. Is it because you have like a

like a deep like jealousy? No, Filipinos, because we're very. There was a guy named Eric Sarmiento. There it is. There it is. Here's the core. There's the core. OK, so here's the evil. So when I was in the fifth grade, so I lived in Minnesota up until like my fourth grade year,

right? Then we moved to San Diego and my cousin Andy grew up here. My cousin Andy was kind of popular. And I was like, and I had never been around any other because I lived in Minnesota, so I've never been around any ethnicities really. So I remember I went to painted rock elementary school in the fifth grade. And they had I'd never played baseball before. So we played baseball, right? And I hit the ball, right?

And I'm running to the base because I know the rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And as I went from the second and the third base, Eric Sarmiento just punches me in the stomach. What? And I fall over and I start crying and him and his friends go, you know, it was out of nowhere. You never had beef beef.

No, I didn't even know him. I had to ask him who who to do on the punchman's stomach. What's his name? And Andy was like, that's Eric Sarmiento. But how did you even like he's Filipino? Filipino. No. No, later, I found out that he was because I would ask questions. So what's this guy about?

Right. And he always hated you. I think later we became friends, right? But then and then there's this other guy named Aaron Rogers. That's not a I know it's not. But he was Filipino. Yeah. So Aaron Rogers, who then he was a drama ball. Green Bay Pack. No, he's a guy named. No, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm not. You think I'm lying? Aaron Rogers. I believe you. Yeah. But listen, I always believe your stories. And he used to play drums and he was super talented. And all the women loved him. All the women in town in Pena Skidus and Poway, right? Yeah, they all went that kid.

You know, how do I date him? And he was a Christian, right? And he I was friends with him and he was a Christian. And I remember always like he if you got a pimple on his face, he would try to pray it away. Dear Lord, please. And I'd be sitting there going, God doesn't do that. Is this Aaron Rogers?

Yeah, wash your face. Yeah. Why don't you wash your face? God does not. You know what I mean? Wash your face for you. Yeah. And you go, please. And so he and he never hooked up with any of these girls because of Jesus, right? Jesus. And that made me mad, too,

because I always wanted the women, but nobody liked him. Filipinos are you hanging out with? Right. Is Aaron Rogers Filipino? Yeah, he is. Yeah, he was like half like me. Yeah, he was half. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Roger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sergeant Rogers. Yeah. And so in my head, I was like, you know, I don't know, maybe those two experiences, right, gave me a storyline. But the honest truth is, is that I devoutly identify more with being Filipino than Korean. Hmm. Whoa. It's true.

Yeah. When he went to the Philippines, it was like reunited with a motherland. Yeah. That's beautiful. Because we did a talent show there. You know, one day I just, we just woke up and we'd go, let's do a talent show. We hosted a random talent show in like the province. In the province.

So everyone showed up. And they killed it, huh? Not only killed it, it was the funniest. The comedy in it was the funniest. And I have never laughed harder in my life. That's awesome. And I realized that this is, I identify with this culture and these people more than being Korean.

Koreans are very like, you know, even their music is like, I'm not into it, you know, I like some of their 70s stuff. But like, and when I went to Korea, I didn't feel, you know, a part of or I felt or a connection to anybody there, you know, so. Wow, that's crazy. And that's why I date Filipino. There is a one thing about the Philippines, though,

like the feeling of warmth you get from everybody. Yeah. Is just, is the best on earth. Like there isn't a warmer, more hospitable, more fun and just like down for anything. Yeah, because they're talented people. Oh, 100 percent. Yeah.

When you take everything away from somebody, you can only be creative. Yeah. You know, like look at black people and what they've done. It's fucking crazy to look at a record player and go, let's make it an instrument because we can't afford instruments. Right.

It's poverty will make you be so creative. Yeah. And to see like the Filipinos, what they've done, it's, you know, I live there. I live there for six years, you know what I mean? From five to 11, right? And like literally it is the most memorable time of my life. Like I remember everything about the Philippines

because I was the most happiest in the Philippines. People are like just running barefoot everywhere, buying the barbecue sticks and drinking soda out of a plastic bag with absolutely no worries on my mind back then. That's true. Like and I remember they would have like the different signals for each typhoon, how strong it would be.

And if it was signal number three, then you had to stay home. But we would wait for the flood to come up and then go play in the flood. Play in the flood. So fun. We're the same. What we used to play in a flood.

Play in the flood water. Why would you play in the flood water? Because that was a joy. You should see a sense and go to the pool. That's true. I used to do that too. No. I do.

They are. That's why I did in his elements on Netflix. That's why that special, I had to go to the Philippines. I was like, I have to do this. Because when I was coming up, you know, in comedy, like who was my inspiration? You know, I had no one. There was no Filipinos representing us.

I remember when I found out that Rob Schneider was Filipino. I was in a movie theater and one of the lines was Raspberry Babinka. And that's how I found out that Rob Schneider was. Because he doesn't. He has blue eyes. He's very fair skin. I didn't know he was half Asian.

I really didn't. And then when he said Raspberry Babinka, I go, holy fuck, there's a Filipino on the big screen. Yeah. Like I can do it. Yeah, in comedy, there wasn't even when I started, I think you were the only one that I knew. There was another guy.

I forgot his name. Rex. Yeah, Rex Navarra. Bobby Bobby. Let me let me rephrase that. Because when I met you, that's when I found out that because I don't want your audience to think when you met me. Because when you met me, we were both open.

Well, you were kind of a little tier higher because you were already in the comedy store. Like Mitzi loved you. I was a boat door, man. I know. But what I'm saying is I was a fucking dolphin tour guide. That's right. At the Mirage Hotel.

That's right. That's right. So like, so when you said you knew me, I don't want your audience to think, oh, Joe Coy was an inspiration. He was already doing things. No, I was shoveling shit at the dolphin. I know.

I remember that. And when I went to. So just imagine that. Like I you had hair. I had hair. You had like fluffy hair when I met you. And I love stand up so much. But like my inspirations were Eddie Murphy, Dennis Wolfberg,

Brian Regan, you know, like, like all of comic relief. Like I remember watching that and just like, holy shit. Like this is stand up. Like I didn't have a stand up comedy club to go to. He did. So when I finally got into the San Diego or La Jolla comedy store and then I see this. This guy with Down syndrome walk up stage.

I can do it. I can do it. Like Down syndrome and Asian. Like, who is this? Yeah, we clicked right away, though, huh? We clicked right away. Right away. We clicked.

Yeah, yeah. He didn't have what I'm saying is if you would have seen what he looked like, his act was very. It was a weird. You've seen his old stuff. I have seen old dish. When he used to walk up like this. And his hair.

Yeah, his hair. He would fucking he would rat it. Yeah, I would write it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. You didn't know that? No. Oh, bro, he would rat his hair.

He would rat his hair. You'd rat it to like it would like be all like fucking massive. And then his he'd always were like a fucked up short sleeve shirt, yeah, like his jeans. And then and then he like, yeah. Or I would probably and he'd walk up like this. What's the big? I'd also wear overalls, like denim overalls, no shirt, cowboy

hat and then the cowboy boots over the pants. And I would just walk around in society like that. Yeah, like I was that kind of eccentric, I guess. Yeah, yeah, because I was like, I didn't know how to stand out. Yeah, I thought, you know, being I thought being myself was wasn't enough almost to make a name or whatever. But when I realized later in life, it's just the closer I am to myself, the better it is.

Yeah. But back then I was trying to find an image or something. Yeah. Because I saw like hooks work. You know what I mean? Like I remember like you would see a guy with no arms go up on stage and people would make fun of his arms. And that was his hook.

Yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah. So I was like, I want to hook. You know, I want to be nubs or whatever. You know what I mean? But when you first started stand up, like you right away went into a like a character or did you try stand up?

No, I went right away. I like I would because my hair was long anyway. So I but were you that guy off the before stand up? I was always Bobby Lee. I was a little weird. Yeah, I've always been a little weird. I would hang out in bookshops but never read the books. You know what I mean?

Like I remember one time I was Alan Ginsberg was at a bookshop. Who's Alan Ginsberg? He's a poet. Oh, Alan Ginsberg. Yeah. Oh, boy, that made you look stupid. I'm sorry. That made me laugh because you delivered it in such a way

like like, oh, he's a poet. You guys obviously don't read. And then she was like, you mean and then you looked dumb. Am I right? He delivered it like. I'm sorry, dumb, dumb. I didn't know I was talking to people that don't read. He is a poet.

And then she's like, oh, you mean and you're like, you're laughing. Hey, hey, you're laughing way too hard front. You're laughing way too hard. It hurts me. OK, why do you do that? So anyway, why do you always treat him the worst? Like always every time I'm on the show. Hey, the word is such a nice guy.

Yeah, he is very nice. So anyway, I used to hang out in bookstore. Sorry about the Allen. Yeah, yeah. And Mr. Ginsberg. This guy Dennis on the book bookstore. He goes, Ginsberg is here. Come hang out.

And I used to hang out. We used to talk and stuff and drink coffee. You talk to him. Oh, yeah. He wrote me a letter. Wow. Why isn't that hanging in here? I lost it.

Oh, my God. That's Allen Ginsberg in one of my. Yeah, I might be able to find it, though. But yeah, he wrote. He should find that. He wrote me a little letter, you know. That's cool. Because he thought he found me to be weird.

Bro, I was just about to say it. And in my head, I go, don't walk on him. Yeah. Let him let him deliver this. Because I because I, you know, at the time, obviously couldn't get girls had no money. But I also would like I like the local music and I would go to art shows.

And, you know, I was like kind of like Fluffy in that way. Yeah. And then I would just hang out at bookstores and play chess with people. Were you funny, though? Like, I was a funny guy. Yeah, I was funny, but it's like. He was emo.

I was kind of emo. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. There was a point where I grew my hair down to my ass. Wow. You know what I mean? I gained weight and I was kind of that guy for a while. And I was just trying to find my way.

And then when the band kicked me out of the band, Lex and superb. You were really in a band. Oh, it's online. You can see it. I got to watch it. Yeah. Actually, I'm going to post this.

Yeah. If you put on Laxton's superb. I love it. You can see me play keyboards in a band. Wow, that's right. You do play the piano. Yeah, yeah. So I played keyboards and then they kicked me out of the band

and then I was walking down the street on Gerard right by the comedy store and I got a job there. Really? Yeah. But were you a fan of stand up before that? Yeah, because I used to work with this girl named Rebecca Dreskin at a coffee shop. And her boyfriend at the time was Michael Carano.

I don't know if you know Michael Carano. Michael Carano. Yeah, but he works for the improv. You know Carano. But Carano used to manage the improv in Pacific Beach with Dave Becky in the late 80s. So I was working with Rebecca Dreskin. So Carano after the shifts, because we were open until 2

in the morning on my coffee shop, he would come here and come. And then sometimes you'd go, hey kid, Carano would say, you want to meet Bobcat Goldway or Brian Regan? So one time he took me to Brian Regan and Brian Regan took, we went to eat after his Thursday night show, right? And I ate with him and I couldn't fucking believe it.

And it's so funny because a couple of years ago when I was at the Denver Comedy Works, Brian Regan came to hang out, which just made my heart flutter. You know what I mean? He's so fucking good. Who, Brian Regan? Oh my god. When you said his name earlier, I was just like, I love him.

He's one of the best. But anyway, that's how it all happened. So I did my comedy in that way too. But then eventually I just became more me. But what I'm saying is, did you watch stand-up comedy on TV? Yeah. I liked it. You know, it's not as if I was obsessed with Pryor,

but I would watch it. But it's like I was more obsessed with, I remember one time, Blake Clark, I was in high school. You don't know him. You know Blake Clark? He was in some of the Adam Sandler movies. He was in Water Boy. And I remember Blake Clark had a Tonight Show set.

And I remember I snuck, I snuck, he was on a school night. And I remember I snuck in and I loved watching comedy on the Tonight Show. And not that it would make me laugh, I just couldn't believe that anybody would choose to do that. Because I would always go, oh, how scary is that? Yeah, very, by the way. It's so scary.

I want everyone to know that. It's very scary. Yeah, it was scary. And then when I started doing it, I wasn't good. But I remember getting why they do it. I remember going, this is the biggest adrenaline rush. 100%. In the beginning, especially, you're like,

I can't believe I just did that. And you try to catch your breath afterwards. And you'd walk around. And it's almost as if you could see life in age. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. Like, I was reborn. That's the best description.

I was reborn. It is like orgasmic. It really is. Like, getting off stage and like, I can't even describe the feeling because there's so many feelings that you're going through in emotions. Just that fear. You remember really feeling and hearing your heart?

Yeah. I would literally hear and feel my heart. I remember at the comedy store, I was going to go up on potluck night, potluck night, right? Because I can't remember what year this was, 1997. And I'm just sitting there. What's the guy's name, a bald guy that hosted all the time? Don Barris.

Don Barris, right? OK, so everyone's going up that night. What the fuck? Like, it's Chris Rock. It's fucking. All these people. All these fucking people just walking up. I'm shoveling shit at the dolphin habitat, right?

Yeah. And I remember putting my name on the list. And I think someone, like a comic, kind of put in a word for me to move me up, you know, so that they could see me. And Aries Spears is, what year is this, man? It was it 2000? Don't quote me on the year, because Aries Spears was on stage.

Yeah, right? It must have been way before 2000. Was it? Yeah, because he was banned from the club for life. Wow. So then it was like 90 something then? Maybe, yeah. All right, so then it's 90 something.

All I know is I flew in a friend of mine, drove me to the thing. She came with me. She sat next to me the whole time. And Aries is up there destroying. Yeah, very, very funny guy. Fuck. And this is before mad TV, by the way.

Yeah. Fucking. I couldn't believe what I was witnessing. I was like, what the fuck? He's doing these impersonations and shit. And just like the applause breaks were on top of each other. And literally my heart, like, I could hear it.

Everything's in slow motion. My mouth is like stuck. And Don goes, you're up next. I don't hate it. Oh my god, yeah. He goes, all right, you ready? Yeah. He's got that look.

You ready? And I go, I can't. I can't go up. Wow. Yeah, I go, I can't go up, man. And then the girl that I was with, she's like, what are you talking about? Like she was mad, because it was a whole day.

That's back when LA took two hours just to get anywhere. Yeah. And I was like, I just can't do it. And then he says to me, he goes, if you don't go up now, you'll never go up again. But he didn't mean it as like I'm banning you from the room. He goes tonight. Emotionally.

He goes emotionally. He goes, don't do that, man. Yeah. He goes, really think about what you're saying. Because if you don't go up now, it'll be even harder the next time. He goes, just go up. It was really nice what Don was saying to me.

Yeah. I go, all right, I'll think about it. And then I go, OK, I'll do it. I'll do it. And I sat back down. And Aries is still crushing. And then I walked to him. I go, I can't, man.

I can't. Like, I was literally going to I was going to hyperventilate, man. Yeah. The room was packed like, you know, that room when it's on fire, it's on a fucking fire. There's no other room like it. And and I remember going home so mad at myself.

You didn't go up. No. Because of fear. Yeah. Wow. And I remember like I've done that. So defeated. I've done that before. Yeah.

Where I was like, I can't do it. There's no possible way I can. Yeah. You know, I remember Jamie put me up, tried to put me up in front of like all these fucking beasts. Yeah. And I was young. Yeah.

And I just said, I'm not doing it. But then later in life. You figure out that you can do it. Yeah. That's also a that growth. Oh, that's very a lot of growth. Yeah. Where you go, I just followed, you know, like the.

Before that now. Yeah. Before the pandemic, I remember I had there was a lineup with Rogan. It was a bunch of people. And I normally, if I was after Rogan, like maybe 15, 20 years ago, I would have canceled. But I remember like going, OK.

Yeah. I'm fine. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I know, but 20 years ago, I remember going, OK. Oh, yeah. I have stomach problems.

Like like feet like fear. So isn't it crazy your own perception of yourself? The first time I knew Bobby, it was an Oscar weekend and Chris Rock was going up and. I already know which one you're talking about. Was it the one where Chris was hosting the Oscars? He was hosting that weekend. It was that was a crazy weekend comedy.

Yeah, because Robin was walking around going up too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. So I went to the comedy store that weekend. Yeah. And you were in the same lineup and you followed him and I was in tears. Yeah.

I you were the best one that night. And I remember thinking my friends and I thinking. Well, I just got chills. Like that was Bobby Lee. Yeah, from mad TV. He like annihilated and now look now. I sincerely, I sincerely felt that I've told you this. Take it, baby.

Bro, that's dope. I don't know. You're uncomfortable. Can I just be uncomfortable right now? I'll be uncomfortable. Why? I'm kidding. Stop.

You're you're a beast. Man, that's crazy because that that was a very special weekend comedy because did you follow Robin too? No, but I remember him walking around and saying hi. And he go hi, hi. And then just he's not good socially. Did you ever talk to him? I have the same story as you.

Yeah, yeah. I was at the Laugh Factory. I can't talk to them. They were making their rounds. Remember him, Robin and Chris were making rounds on Oscar week. Yeah. And it's me, Sully McCullough upstairs upstairs at the Laugh Factory.

It's like a Thursday and we're just talking and like Sully's facing the stairs coming up and you just see is you just see his head kind of like like that. And I'm like, what? And he goes, it's Robin. Yeah. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? And I turn around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, hey, how are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you guys? And I'm like, what's up, Robin? And I go, do you want to go up? He goes, oh, you know, the lady up front said that you guys are there's too many comics.

I'm like, what? Who said that? Who said that? Who fired? Fire her. I know. And then I go, I go, you will take my spot, sir. I go, and first of all, I don't know who the fuck said that

to you. Yeah, you can walk up anywhere. So anywhere in the planet. And I go, I go, please. And then Sully said the same thing. Yeah, take my spot, too. Yeah, you're going to take it. And then we watch that man go up.

Fucking amazing. Amazing. Didn't have a set. You know what I mean? He was practicing because he was introducing like best animation, but he said he was going to do a set. He wanted to do five minutes before. And he's running his he was running it.

And then and then he came upstairs. We hugged. He was talking and his car got towed because, you know, those fucking street signs are so that's how long it's been since he's been at the fucking lab. He doesn't know that it's it's different on sunset now. Yeah. And he goes, oh, but it said that it's available.

I go, but reading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, yeah, you know, it's mind blowing is we don't want to tell you this part. And I hate it. OK, because it's really special. Go ahead. You suck this dick.

I sucked it. And it's like Korean kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, so he said he was coming back. He's going to come back. And this is when I always say this, I go, there's there's levels of fame, right? There's famous.

And then there's there's Jesus Christ. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I'm not even trying to be funny. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like.

And that's what Robin was. Yeah. He's Jesus Christ. He talks to multiple generations and then and then some. Right. So. I'm at the Laugh Factory. It's the weekend, right?

And I'm hosting, right? And I'm like, fuck, is Robin coming back? It's like Sagitt. It's I can't remember who's on the show, but all of a sudden, Chris fucking Rock walks in, right? And of course, you don't give an introduction because this crowd has no idea what the fuck is about to happen. It's going to be complete destruction, right?

Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Rock. This is when you know the levels of fame. There's famous. And then there's Jesus Christ. I go, Chris Rock, the crowd will not shut the fuck up for like five minutes, just screaming. People like toppling over. They can't believe it.

Standing ovation won't sit down. This is Chris fucking Rock. This is and I want you guys to Google the when he hosted because I don't know what year that was. But this was Chris fucking Rock. This is, you know, he's on everything. And anyways, that happens, right? And then I'm hosting and I'm like, I can't believe it.

Now I put someone else on stage. I can't remember who it was. And then all of a sudden, Robin's here. Oh, I'm like a night. I'm like, am I hosting this shit? Oh, what a night. Yeah. Oh, what a night, right? But here's here's Bob Sagitt, by the way.

I say this all the time, but Bob Sagitt pops up and he's like, hey, I'm going to bring up, I'm going to bring up Robin. I'm like, Bob, come on, man. I'm like, please let me bring up Robin. He's like, no, we kind of have this thing. And I'm going to bring him up. Fuck. Yeah. So Bob brings him up, right?

Even though I was a host, Bob. I love Bob, by the way. He brings up Robin. Bobby. It's pandemonium. I can't even explain to you what happened, man. It was it was fucking insane. Like what Chris had was amazing.

But this shit, I'm literally, camera phones running up to the stage, taking pictures of them. And then Robin going, I got a camera too, bitch. Camera ward, let's go. And then he starts saying, and everyone's laughing at that. And people running, you know, the stairs on the side. Running down the stairs.

They gave, they didn't even want to see him perform. They just wanted to touch Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And man, I'm telling you, dude, it was holy shit, dude. That guy, wow. It was just, and then, and this is how beautiful he was, Bob. Bobby, when he got off and said good night, and you know how I have to walk past him

and close the show out. And I go, I really wanted to bring you up. I go, I love you so much, but it sucked that I didn't get to bring you up. And he goes, oh, bring me up again. He goes, come on, bring me up again. We'll fuck around on stage. Wow.

And I go, ladies and gentlemen. We probably, as a crowd went apeshit again, and then for like two minutes, we were just fucking around on stage. Oh, wow. It was, man, it was my everything, man. That was, that was, that was my Oscar moment. Do you, can I say it in my thing or no?

Yes. Because you, that was long, but um. I got to go, so. I know, I know, but I'm just saying that it was. I got peace. That was pretty long, but um. Look, I don't care. I know you don't, but um.

But are you like me where, um, you know, when you see somebody that you're a fan of, because it's like, you know, I'm supposed to be, you know, a comedian too, which I am, right? But yeah. And then you're famous. And then not really, but not as fun as, I mean, I'm not there at that level, but, you know,

and when you're around, you know, those types of people, because I've been in a room like where it's like, I'm surrounded by, you know, Dana Carvey, all these fucking people, right? Yeah. And in my own head, I want to be like, Holy fuck. Yeah.

You know what I mean? But then, no, but you have to also play the cool comic, right? So then it's just like, you're, you're trying to hide your excitement. Yeah. Like so, so you say stupid things like, um. So what'd you do today? Why are you dealing with Robert De Niro?

Why is your face dealing with Robert De Niro? Yeah. Why, why? And then I'm like, what do you mean? I woke up like, I don't know, breakfast. So you're funny? You think you're a comedian? Yeah.

So you say some stupid thing like, you know, fucking the sunset, man. Fuck traffic. Right, right. When you really want to go, holy fuck, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you do, why do I do that? Who's you to say it to?

Every, every time I'm around, like, you know, when I was at Sebastian's house and even someone like Bill Burr, right, I'll like, you know, try to be cool. When I want to go, fuck your last special was so, you know what I mean? But normally I'm just like, what's your kid's name? Mine, right?

Mine was Eddie Murphy. Wait, wait, mine was, because I, when I was 15, I took my mom's credit card and bought tickets to see Eddie at the Coliseum. I saw Raw live. Wow. Yeah. And uh, we're at the coffee bean.

Yeah. And uh, and I see him. Eddie Murphy's in the coffee bean. And I'm like, I walk up to him. Yeah, yeah. That's why I said at the beginning of the show, you do not know how hard it is to give a compliment. Yeah.

Extremely hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of energy. It's a lot of passion. It's a lot of fear. You don't want to meet your hero. Yeah. So when someone gives you a compliment,

take it, right? Because that's energy. It's good energy. So I walked up to him and just like you, right? The worst, don't even know what to fucking say. I looked down and go, I go, uh, Mr. Murphy. He goes, Hey, what's up, man? I go, uh, my name is Joe Croy.

I'm a comedian. This is like eight years ago or nine years ago. I go, I'm a comedian. Wait, wait. Raw was 25 years ago. Yeah. Okay. And I was also 15.

Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The fuck, wait, wait, what's that? What was 35 years ago? What happened nine years ago? Oh, you ran into nine. Oh, so what you're saying, you saw,

I thought you meant that you saw raw and that same night you ran into Eddie Murphy. No, so you saw raw back, just finished. Let me finish. So you saw raw and then many years later, you ran into Eddie Murphy at the coffee bean. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's the story? Start over. I'm on board. I'm, I'm not, I need to be there on board. He's on board. So let me ask you something. Get on board. And so you saw the, anyways, you saw the raw.

I saw him. Yeah. And I walked up to him, heart pounding. I was so nervous. I go, I'm a comedian. You're the reason why I just stand up. Yeah. And then he's like, oh, wow, man.

And then, oh, he asked me, what's your name? I go, Joe Coy. And then he goes, oh, yeah. Wait, this was a long time. Actually, this is a long time ago. This was like 12, 13 years ago. He goes, oh, yeah, I go, yeah. And then he goes, all right.

And it's just this awkward look. And I go, I went to raw when I was 15. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. Uncomfortable.

Okay. Yeah. Bye. Bye. Fucking worst. Fucking worst shit I could possibly. I haven't any Murphy story. Oh, nice.

So Paulie goes, Paulie, my brother and I were at the comedy store and I must have been, I don't know if I had mad at the time. It was before that. Yeah. I was still scared of people. Right. But I knew Paulie.

Yeah. Did Sadrex perform? You got to watch him. I didn't know, I didn't know who Sadrex the entertainer was. So I sit, my brother and I and Paulie sit in a booth. Eddie Murphy. Oh, first of all, I have to pee too. Like real bad.

You know what I mean? And I remember Eddie Murphy and Charlie Murphy was packed. They sat at the end of our fucking table. Yeah. So you had Eddie Murphy. Wait, you didn't know who Charlie the entertainer was? At the time, I didn't.

You're kidding me. This is that long ago. Late 90s. Right. They sat at the end of the table, right? And my brother and I, we couldn't really even watch that because we both went, oh fuck. You know what I mean?

Wait, Eddie sat at your booth? Yes, at the end of it. And Charlie was on the other end. I didn't know Charlie at the time, but he looked like Eddie. And I thought maybe he's important too. But my brother and I both, I could see our bodies go, holy fuck. And they came to watch Sadrex? Yeah, to watch Sadrex.

That's great. And I had to pee and I remember, and they wouldn't move. I sat there for like 30 minutes, right? Pee just dripping out of my dick because you can't go, excuse me, Eddie Murphy. I've got pee. You should have done that. No, no, no, right? So you just, and you, there's no way to go underneath it.

Yeah. So I just remember going, oh fuck, uncomfortable. You know what I mean? It was like so like, I had a pee, but then also it was just like a fucking crazy, you know. Yeah. Yeah. He's amazing. Eddie's amazing.

Cedric, are you kidding me? Cedric's amazing. Dude. I can't believe you didn't know who he was. Shut up. He was huge back then. But now Joe, you're getting to the point in your career where you're now at that, almost at that level of.

I am there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How does that feel? It's fucking beautiful. Because I honestly, like I'll watch like the kind of stadiums that you sell out. Uh-huh.

You know, no, don't go, uh-huh. Oh, because bitch, you'll always be my bitch. Don't talk to me like that. Wow. I love you. I love you too. And I'm so happy for you. I love you too.

All right. I'm kidding. I'm sorry I forgot your bitch, but you know, I see, you know, you're doing stadiums now, right? And Radio City, music. Yeah, music hall, right? The Becute Forum, LA Forum, right? Uh-huh.

Twice. And yeah, and I go and I think twice, twice in a row. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I think to myself, oh my God, and I think to myself, he's now there. You know, how does that feel? It's, it's cool. It is.

I love it. Yeah. Or do you still use the same guy? Oh, of course. We all are, right? I know, but do you still have the same fears and all because in my mind, I'm like, you know, when you get to that place, like, you know, I can sell out a comedy club, all the shows in a comedy club, right?

I don't know what it's like to sell out a fucking stadium. You know, when you're backstage, are you, do you feel the same way backstage as you would be at a club? Well, no, because the club, like, like selling out a club and selling out an arena is completely. I know the numbers are different. No, I'm not saying that, Bobby, because when you do a, when you do a- Fuck this guy. No, I'm not trying to say, what I'm trying to say is when you take on a club,

the club is, owns everything. Right? So you know, you negotiate a deal, door and, and that kind of shit, right? Yeah, I'm in the business. You don't have to worry about overhead. I'm in the business so I know. I know. What I'm trying to say is overhead and staff is all, comes with the club, right? So the risk isn't as high.

So I walk in more relieved. Whereas the forum, the minute I say I'm playing the forum, I'm already in the negative a million. Do you get it? Right. I'm in the negative. The minute I announce, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to play the forum. I just told everyone, I'm minus one million dollars. Right.

So now that fear is involved. So now I have to sell it out. Right. That's the only fear that I have. But then, but then you don't look at it like that. Because when you go on an arena tour, you, you, you, you literally take on all risk. Light stage, sound, background. Yeah.

Everything. Because I remember Sebastian going, you know, someone's making an espresso. What is that? What is that? Is that going to blow up? Oh, there we go. There we go.

Okay. So let's do an unhelpful. Hey, by the way, Joe, before we continue, I honestly, since we've been doing it in this building, I haven't had this much fun. Oh, we've had great people in here. No, we've had spade. I'll punch you. I love spade, but it's like, you, that was a lot of fun.

Thank you so much for doing. Oh, thank you. I needed it too, because I've been doing so much. I've did, I've been doing so, I just did Theos and fucking Tom's. And I've done nine podcasts last week, and I'm fucking burnt as fuck. Yeah. And I didn't even know what to fucking talk about. But it just became so easy and fun and combative.

And I really am grateful that you came in. Okay, can you say it one more time without the shitty look at the end? No, I know you're sincere. I'm being sincere. I know I try to do it. I try to do it, but my face went. I know it hurts. No, it hurts.

It hurts to say it hurts to say it hurts. The same like you love me like you love me like a brother. So at the end of our show, as you know, because you've been a guest before, we do an unhelpful, unhelpful advice. People email us stuff and then they want our help. Oh, nice. And so you can help them or not. Go ahead.

Okay. Unhelpful advice with Bobby Kalala and Joe Coy. Hey, Tiger Belly. Anyway, my question is, like I said, I'm 36. I'm male and I'm single. I was in a long-term relationship up until about a year ago. Not married. Since then, I've come down with a wicked case of Peroni's disease.

Basically, what it is, is the shaft of my penis is full of scar tissue. It has made the length of my penis much shorter. And in the middle, it looks like an hourglass. It's pinched in like it has a little belt on, pulled way too tight. It's a real bummer to look at. But on top of that, it's painful to get an erection. I always did okay with women, but now I'm scared to death to show this forsaken thing to anyone. Do I accept that I'm forever alone or take this guy out for a night out in the town

and see how hilarious women think it is? I joke, but it really is. I'm self-conscious and it hurts me. And my confidence is quite down a bit. Any help appreciated? Love, Sean from Tennessee. Oh, that must be also really painful if you have scar tissue. It's Peroni's disease.

I didn't see the penis. No, they don't have. They have more medic. Oh, here you go. There's one. You have an image of it? Yeah. See the middle one?

Here, I'll show you, Joe. Oh, I got scared by it. Oh, it just does a little like a not very farmed loop. It's like a hook. Like he's hooked from a Peter Pan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. That one looked a little bit different than mine.

It's like a question mark. Yeah, it's like a question mark. Like you want to? That might actually feel better. Yeah, it's going to hit. I'm into hooks. Yeah, right. You could bend the finger.

You know, sometimes I had a girl go, you know, when you're in the canal, bend it and then tap the main thing and then lick that clip. You know what I mean? That's exactly where it is. Yeah. So the G spot is like this.

Right. So maybe it's behind. Number one, you should try it. But he's in pain. Yeah, that's scar tissue. When he gets an erection, he's in pain. Yeah. Well, here's that you can lie.

Like for instance, you can hide the pain. You can't, you know, the hook is one thing. You can say, I have a hook. But when you're making love, right, you can go out, right? And then she could be like, what's the matter? You can go, it's tight. Right.

You can lie. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, why does it hurt? I don't I'm not understanding this guy's scar tissue. Just like you have scar tissue anywhere on your body. It hurts. It's like a very like bulky kind of.

Okay. Yeah. I thought it hurt because it was curved and like you can't. It probably pulls on the skin. It's very tight. Like it imagine being like an overstuffed sausage. Can you research why he got this? I think it's just your email.

Exercise, maybe. I mean, you could tell that it would be painful to even try. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's what you should have shown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you should have shown. Yeah, that hurts.

That hurts to look at. What do I want? Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's turn that off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, don't take that on the on the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel bad, man. You got a doctor.

You need a doctor. Yeah, but also I think that if a woman likes you, she'd be willing to get adventurous without the penis. Yeah, that's very. Women aren't, you are right about that, right? Women aren't like that. I mean, there are women. Mental fall in love.

Women fall in love mentally. Mentally, yeah. Like if you ate really good pussy, I'd be fine for the rest of my life. Yeah, like my dick isn't a fresh product. No, it's not. In fact, you shit your pants last night. I have a picture.

Do you want to see Joe? That wasn't because you could show them that I wanted to show them. You could show them. Why did you shit your pants? Is it something you ate? But even if it's something you ate, why did you physically shit yourself? No, it's just skitties.

What a what a what? I can't believe my bad. Hey, how old are you? Hey, sir. Hey, sir. How old are you? My bad. Don't buy white underwear.

Okay. Can I say this? Just buy black. Just buy black. It's a challenge for you. Keeping white clean is hard to do. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I have what my dad has.

And first of all, what does that mean? Careful, don't drop it. This is my dad's ashes. That's beautiful. Yeah. I have I have what my dad has. And we both have and I'm proud to say it. We both have.

Ain't a leakage. It's a weird commercial. What's happening? Okay. I don't think I'm selling a product. I don't know whether to laugh at your dad because I'm looking at your dad right now. It's a PCS.

Yeah. When you're, you know, don't be ashamed. All right. It's hereditary. You and your family members could both have. Why is she ain't a leakage? Ain't no leakage. It's always fun to have.

Ain't no leakage. Your underwear is sad. Yeah. I have it. I have ain't a leakage. I mean, I'm proud to say it. And I'm not ashamed of it anymore. And, you know, I'm coming out with it, you know,

it's it's it's constantly like moist and dripping from there. And I apologize if my poor underwear, you know, me undies, what a great product. Well, yesterday, I'll show you the video afterwards. He was walking around in his undies and I was like, what is that? Oh, so he didn't know. I was like, come here.

And I was like, come here, turn around. And then he went, kaka. I was like, I think you got some railroad, you know, I think you got some track marks there. But that's how I know. See what's bullshit about in the Internet. That's why I know she loves me. Oh, yeah.

Right. Well, I knew you were my roommate. You would have left. Oh, I would have left a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, she's loved you since the beginning. Yeah, she loves me. Even before the the shit.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I knew she loved you when I saw the Instagram post long years ago. When you guys were like on the road together and you were both half naked and she was balancing or no, you were balancing on her feet. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I threw up in the mouth. Yeah. And then I liked the picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But that's what I knew. Can we can we help hook dick?

No, there's I don't have anything for that. Yeah. Yeah. So what would you do? I would seek medical attention. Like there's got to be something physically. Mr. Koy, as your physician, I have to tell you that there is no medical remedy for your condition. I mean, you're, it's going to stay hooked and you are

going to, it's going to be, if you get an erection, it'll be very painful. We can give you medication. So what would you say after that? Yeah, I also think that if he were to just openly talk about it and make fun of himself and like, I don't know, I think he'd be fine. He'll be fine.

Yeah. Dress up in a pirate outfit and the girl would be like, you don't really have a hook. You're like, hold on. Yeah. Or he could dress in green, right? With a funny green hat. Oh, pull this penis out in front of a girl.

And who are you supposed to be? And you can go, I'm the Riddler. That was a stretch. That was a very. It's a question. That was a question. It's a question mark. It's a question mark.

I'm the Riddler. I'm the Riddler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. Or I'm Jim Carrey, the Riddler. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he doesn't, he didn't even do Jim Carrey. Right.

Yeah. Or you could go, you know, or here's the thing. Yes. You can make your whole house look like a dolly painting. A what? A dolly painting. You know, everything's melting. You know what I mean?

And so then when you pull your penis, it's not as like, you know. He looks like a dolly penis. Yeah, dolly penis. A dolly penis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'm just throwing out suggestions. Yeah, these are all great suggestions.

Yeah. If you're listening. But you know what, dude, my prayers are for you, my friend from Tennessee. Yeah. And I feel very bad for you. Yeah. And, you know, I feel bad for my own self because, you know, I have a friend. I have some friends that I've never done their podcast,

but they've done mine a couple of times, but, you know. But anyway, it's really good to see you. Thanks for coming. Oh, you're talking about me? No. I think he was gaslighting. Yeah, that was a gaslight. Yeah.

And that's how you wrap it. I know. And that's why he's a pro. Yeah, you have a profession. That's a callback. Yeah. Yeah, I wrapped it around. But Joe, you have anything to plug?

Um, no. 2020, babe. I know. Let me ask you something. When do you think this is going to be over? Man, I'm praying. I'm praying early 2021. I'm praying for 2021.

Right now, everyone's saying the end of 2021. Yeah. But I hope 2020. I hope early 2021 because it's my son's senior year. I want him to walk. I want him to do all the things that can only happen once in a lifetime and enjoy. You're going to vote?

You're going to vote, right? Yeah, man. OK, good. Voting, those kind of questions are personal. They don't. I'm just saying, I'm not saying, I'm not asking you who you're voting for. Yeah.

I have an idea. But I think, I think everyone should, but I think everyone needs to vote. Everyone needs to vote. And I think, you know, what? Yeah, you should vote. Regardless of who you want to vote for, vote. Yeah.

I think that's the most important message. It is your responsibility. Responsibility to do it. Mm-hmm. Give Joe Coy a round of applause, everybody. That was wonderful. Thank you so fucking much, dude. Thank you so much.

Amazing. I love you. Love you. Honestly, dude. Hey, guys, we have a special shout out. I have a shout out to my buddy, Calvin, from my other buddy, personal friend of mine, Manny Fig.

God bless you. That's his brother. That's his brother. God bless you and take care. Calvin, shout out for me also. And also from Gilbert. Hold on, take that. Let me do that.

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Anyways, guys, we also want to give a shout out to a birthday food, birthday dinner we had. We had Eju The Strange Beast. It's a delicious Japanese cuisine here in LA. Bobby had it for his birthday. and Bobby, what were your thoughts on the katsu? I'm going to say that it was literally the best birthday dinner I've ever had in my life. Yeah.

It's shocking where I eat a food for the first time I go, oh yeah, I'll be eating at this restaurant for the rest of my life. The fact that Bobby got off his game to see how much he loved the prime rib, prime rib, is it the prime rib? Yeah, he also, well, we had the sandals, the sandwich. Chicken sandals, yeah. And then Bobby had both the prime rib bowl and then the tonkatsu bento box. Yeah.

Honestly guys, it's really good. And typically when you get chicken sandals on delivery, they usually end up really soggy. I don't know, this was still Christmas, I really enjoyed it. Shout out to Brian too for bringing it to our door. That was really nice. Brian, we love you. Hit up George for something. Get your questions on Tiger Belly by emailing us at adviceunhelpful at gmail.com.

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