TigerBelly - Ep 324: Judd Apatow and the Pineapple Express Trailer Incident

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

Bobby comes home crying. Judd bumps into Dr. Oz at the right time. Khalyla makes a strong opening. We talk Will Ferrell explaining why bears are funny, Slouching Ben Affleck, and 6 penis contraptions. New Merch Drop Only @ https://sleptkingdom.com Exclusive TigerBelly NFTs @ https://www.legaci.shop/tigerbelly Support us by supporting our sponsors!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey Prime members, you can listen to Tiger Belly add free on Amazon music download the app today Before we start I want to get something off my I understand that so wait, but can we tell you Judd? So the rule Judd yes, don't say anything until I bring your name up the power of a power She wants to do a strong opening. I don't know what the fuck it is Is everything on yeah, yeah, so I need to get something off my so let me can I just can I introduce you your strong opening or? I Like a strong opening Come on

Then it's a lot of strong opening Judd this is completely unrelated to you. So please don't take offense to this I had to borrow back pack from you earlier. I don't know why you're saying this in front of him And sorry buddy, so I took the backpack out and I took things out from the backpack that you used and why were there six penis contraptions? Why sick? Also just want to remind you Want to remind you that what yeah, I your girlfriend of also a penis contraption in case you ever want to use me So, okay

Sorry, I was great. That was quite a great uncomfortable opening first of all, okay While you were out of town my brother and my brother wanted to buy me a birthday gift and he goes Hey, hey Bob. There's these new, you know futuristic, you know contraption Vaginal contraptions. Let me buy you one and he bought me three of them. That's a upgrade anyway. Let's start the podcast This is fucking crazy that opening Go ahead five four three welcome to another episode of Tiger Belly You guys we have a bunch of people in the room, but we have a very special guest I'll introduce this guy. What's it say your name for the record?

Okay, we got Gilbert What up my girlfriend Kalilah? What there it is. All right. There it is. Why cuz you discovered the pocket No, not just anyway six six. These are three in your story. Anyways, I want to introduce somebody that I'll just be honest with you. I There are people in the world right in the in the world that I live in That times I feel a little intimidated by I look up to them. This guy is one of them I just said I'm gonna give you a long intro. So, um, I

I felt like I could I like I couldn't get an acting job Right rumor So then um, I you know Judd and Paul hired me for love and it kind of snowballed and I'm still in that snowball Like, you know, I've just been working non-stop since then so I want to thank you for that You put me in pineapple express. Yo, thank you for that. He directed were you in that? It was impactful as brief an impact Thank you, dude, and that's what I needed from you, dude. It was brief and impactful Said said variety

He directed for your virgin he also directed knocked up he directed Um, uh, this is 40 bunch of just a funny people a bunch of movies, but he also was uh, you know a showrunner and executive producer girls Crashing the thing I did love on Netflix. Um, just a bunch of shit I you know, I mean, I know more credits, but that's what I'm gonna give you today. Should I do the rest of it? No, no, no, it's a long fucking you belong. It's a lot Oh, here's another thing that I saw that I loved that I was on to it too late, which is the Zendair is Mm-hmm, bro. I did not

Want to even do stand-up anymore Until I saw that So thank you give Judd Appetite round of applause Judd Appetite everybody give him a round of applause. I said I'm happy to be here. Thank you so much. I'm very happy to be here I weirdly in the pandemic missed you like I Feeling that I that I miss you because I was you know watching podcasts and you know We have a lot of time and and you grab it so gravitate towards things that bring you comfort during the stress Yeah, and I kept coming back to you and it's

It really surprised me. I'm like why does Bobby Make me feel like the world's okay I'm not sure why well reached out to you. Yeah, you did and that's what I can explain that Okay, it's the same reason why I watch garbage reality TV. Mm-hmm. She May be right. Yeah, it's something where I can switch my brain off and just watch a train wreck. Oh, okay I think there might be something a parallel there. Yeah Huh?

But that still is I'm gonna take that as a compliment. Yeah Well, because during the pandemic the thing I noticed was who I wanted to check in on and Who didn't check in on me, right? Because we all could have died. Yeah. Yeah, I guess still and You you realize like well that person who I thought I was close with in two years has not Checked in at all. Like that person hates me. There it is. There it is, right? Yeah, yeah and and and and then you realize well, I guess who have I not checked in on And and you were you were high on my light Can I I like to argue that for a second if I may mm-hmm, but there was a but the reason why I didn't check up on you is

I love you and I think you're a great guy and that's super talented But I also have a thing was I don't want to be intrusive Yes, right like all those people didn't check in on me are trying not to be intrusive. I Think they all hate me and hope I die. Yeah. So that's helpful to know the bro I'm gonna tell you something right now, dude. If you died, right? It would be earth shattering for me So I'm glad you're not dead well, I Thought you're gonna say earth shattering for the whole community

Like you said it like just me. I don't know how everyone else would feel. I don't want to speak for other I don't want to speak for other people, but I think it's just for me. Yeah, it would be shattering, right? I I appreciate yeah, I'm trying to hold it together. So you just you just so let me ask you say during the pandemic obviously I Probably think I know the answer, but what did you do during that? well Right when it was starting. Yeah, I bumped into dr. Oz Oh, this is so weird, right? So like oh, maybe like February 25th or something right around there. Was it a random thing just on a like a studio lot? Oh, wow

I like this the Sony lot. Yeah. Were you I know who dr. Oz is. I know he's borderline quacky. Okay. All right He you know, yeah, I'm sure he's a decent human being with ethics and my story is based on him being the best doctor in the history I Don't know what you're talking about Quacky business. All right, so he's great the greatest doctor I've lived through the best doctor in the world and I'm like, let me think of this COVID thing. Yeah, and he's like, you know, Judd, it's just it's so contagious and

They're gonna try to like slow it down and stop it, but a million people are gonna die and we'll all know one of them. Oh Wow, correct. That's it was all correct. Yes. Thus the Greatest Wow, I take it all back. They would that scared the shit are you? It did because I was about to go to South by Southwest to show the King of Staten Island and We were all like, can we go? I think we can go. Yeah, right? We can go and it was like my wife's birthday and we had a trip and we were gonna go to some spa for her birthday And this was like the first week of March and we were like You can still go to New Mexico, right?

Yeah, I don't think it's there yet and we did we went away for like four or five days Oh, wow on the TV every night It was getting worse and worse till it was really bad and we're like in our bathrooms at a spa Getting massages and we're like, I don't think we're supposed to let people go. Wow. Like people are really rubbing on us right now Yeah, yeah, and then we got home and you know went in the house and locked the door for you Would had Tom Hanks got in it by then It was the week. I think yeah, because that's why it became real for me. Yeah Holy fuck we're fucked. You know, I mean like Tom Hanks is America's dad and he's careful

Yeah, he's like seems like a mindful guy. He's a careful person. Yeah, and then we went in the house And then in the beginning of the house what I realized was that my family Wasn't that concerned about my health Like they were a little looser than I was and I'm the oldest one. I'm the one who dies I'm the one who dies and they you know, we're a little looser with some of some of the rules I'm like rubbing on these fucking Amazon packages like Purell and that's aren't you mad that we did that for no reason like at some point we realize It's not on the packages, but after like eight months of package rubbing

Yeah, I had the amount of burns the chemical burns on my hands. I bought the UV lights. Yeah every inch of it I would do it on his body when he would come back from Yeah, and 11 we went to like a craft store right at the beginning, right? So like we were aware like I think we're gonna be in the house for like months and months and months So I go with you know my two daughters and we go, let's go to like what's that craft store with Joe and Michaels Michaels Yes, we're like, let's go to Michaels. I think we need crafts We're gonna do a lot of crafts for the next few months. Let's go buy like feathers and so we're in there And it's this store is enormous and there's like 16 people in it, but to us each one of them a hundred percent had it

And oh, wow, we were just walking through like like we were in space like Yes, so scared scared of the cashier Yeah, and then we went in in the house and then I had to promote the movie on my couch Oh my god for like two months interviews all day and those are the worst Those are the worst kinds like I'd rather be in wouldn't you rather be in person. Yeah, but there were some moments where you're like It's nice to sit here Yeah, when you're doing like Craig, you know like crazy amounts of of interviews like around the world and oh, yeah Oh, it's nice that because they have that day where you you get that list of like times

That's the worst day of anyone's life because it's a ghost from like 6 a.m. To like 11 and it's just these all these numbers you have to call and there's six minutes each Yeah, I might as they put you on they just keep sending people in and people don't understand that people like say will Smith I think twice a year three times a year. He has to sit in rooms for like a month and talk to someone every six minutes Oh my god, and the fact that it hasn't broken their spirit Yeah, yeah, that's why hit when you see like, you know, they give like get they make gifts out of what's that dude? Not Matt Damon the other one bad. I thought is that his name? But you see like sometimes in his interviews they give moments of him either falling asleep

He's lost hope Having an existential melt that and and you probably could do that honestly to any person all right Right, like if you had the raw footage Of all of Don Cheadle doing a press junk. If there'd be a moment where he'd be like, oh, yeah Why am I alive? There's something there's a when I see photos of Ben Affleck There's one photo of him outside his house or something He's leaning against a wall and he has a cigarette and he's kind of slouched. Yeah that photo I wish I had that photo earlier on in my career because I in my mind in my head

I'm like once I get all those things Right everything so this one. Yeah, that one you want No, no, and what if I was a young man and I saw that I'd be like, you know what dude? Enjoy today, but you know what isn't it? You know the essence of life like that That's like That photo is like the Mona Lisa Because people don't understand You know everyone's life is stressful and you think oh, you know

He's running around the world and he's with J. Lo and he's Batman for a period But really that's how he feels which Which is which is how we feel yeah, you know at the end of the day That's all and he had to walk out like I imagine that walk. He's just grabbing the cigarette. I guess I have to smoke outside I just need a minute and then he can't even be left alone like yeah photographing his one knows they're taking photos like fuck it Take the photo fuck it. You know I mean it was take that off. It's too good looking to look at So did you do a lot of writing in the pandemic? Well, what happened was I? So I had to promote the movie and they put the movie where you could like buy it online

We were supposed to be in the theater. Yeah, and we were like, you know So we just you know put it online now and it felt like it's kind of nothing to watch and everyone's so depressed and we have a Funny hopefully sweet movie. It would be weird to not give it to people now It's yeah, it's for now so it felt nice to have something to offer up people even if it was just two hours of a break and then I I Really felt like I'm either going to gain like 40 pounds and be drunk for the next year Yeah, or I have to get healthy like it's not going to be in the middle Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I normally live in the middle. Yeah, you're great little little shitty

Like I'm kind of in a shape and out of shape like I work out a little I eat shitty half the time You know that I have an observation about you. Yes, please Did you gain a little or lose away? I can't tell. Well, I'll tell you because it's okay. It says everything about I've been sick three times in the last month with non-covid diseases So are you really other disease? Yeah, I've had every other disease, but cool. Wow last six weeks. So flu You have so I'll have a haunting cough, but it's like a different thing. Yeah So I lost 15 pounds as I was walking every day like an hour and a half to two hours to not go crazy I would just get up at seven in the morning and just walk for two hours on the beach and then

You know, I thought of a movie at some point. I was like, I should think of something. I'm literally walking For two hours. I'm with my friend. I'm like, I'm gonna try to think a thing Because we would just talk bullshit. I'm like, could we outline something in this time? So I had this idea Like maybe make a movie about like actors like you who are in the bubble trying to make a movie Yeah, you know, like you kept hearing about the Jurassic Park bubble and they're in England and they keep getting sick And they keep shutting down. They're trying to finish like a sequel to a dinosaur movie You know, it's like it must be weird in that bubble. So I started just outlining on the walk Just as a goof and then one day my wife said to me the TV show I'm supposed to do

They're sending me to England to shoot it in January for four months. Oh, wow. And I was like, maybe I could do this dumb bubble movie in that four months in that four months Maybe I'll like write it and go with her and try to make it. Wow. And so we set it up at Netflix And we made it last January through April during the pandemic and that's when I gained back all the weight Oh, wow. So I lost like 15 pounds. And now I'm I started in 206 now at 203. That says everything about the last two years Yeah, yeah. Is that movie out now? April 1st. Okay. And it's like David Duchovny and Keegan-Michael Key and Fred Armisen and Kate McKinnon and All my favorite people. It was like trying to work to not lose your mind So yeah, it was like making a movie about losing your mind in a bubble while trying not to lose your mind

So you're making a movie to stay sane about losing your mind. It was a very like meta Yeah, we must do something we can't sit in the house anymore Like I did Zoey Lister Jones's movie one one scene, but still it was just like really cool to do it Oh, that wasn't in a thick that was the thick of the pandemic like April or yeah, they came over They came over it was like they were 20 30 feet away. It was a whole thing. I have a question to ask you When you're directing a movie Do you know it's good? Like I know that the screen, you know, you wrote this script or whatever But when you're shooting it, do you know it's good or are there questions of like, I don't know if this is gonna work at editing

Or do you know? I Think each time is different. Yeah, this time it was very Improvised because we wrote in a month. Yeah and Pam Brady and I thought well I'll just get people could really do this on their feet and so we just shot so much stuff Oh, it was like half a Christopher guest movie half Tropic Thunder. Oh, you know, so we're shooting other interview sections Well, there is like a documentary aspect in a part of it But it's like when they're shooting the dinosaur movie. It looks exactly like Jurassic Park Like it's shot with the same people who do Jurassic Park. Oh, wow

That's your light and magic. It's amazing and then it suddenly falls apart in the middle of the take and you see the green screens They all start fighting and oh So I had to learn how to do special effects because I've never had any special effects. Yeah Documentary of yours with Marlon Brando. Oh Oh a lost. Oh, yeah, it was No, that was the parts of darkness. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it was making of apoco. Yeah Yeah, yeah, that also know but the also the one the making of island of dr. Murrow. Yes, I haven't seen but it's crazy I didn't even know that was out. Yeah, it is. It's pretty crazy like the director gets fired. He lives on the island

I on his own movie That literally happened then Brando shows up and he goes, you know, he he goes I want to shut down production and I would I want to rewrite the movie and he goes to like an executive at New Line and he goes In the movie, I want to wear a dolphin mask Throughout the movie and there's like he's like, yeah, he's like and then, you know, I take it off and I'm still a dolphin And they were like we can't write that, you know, I mean like I mean it must have been crazy to direct that kind of ego Yeah, that's kind of what our movie is about is people Turning into that

Taking their movie way too seriously Having an existential meltdown during a movie But that that's the funny thing about the pandemic is you know, we all get this huge break and we're like we you notice in the quiet How crazy you've been Right, you get some space ago. Wow that period. I was really And and it's weird to because you can observe yourself. Yeah for the first time. I thought myself happier Then I've ever been at times in the pandemic. Yeah, me too

I mean because it's like, you know, we were around each other a lot and also we're eating at home We're we never did that. Did you get along better? Spending way more time together or we kind of did although, you know, full transparency I think we got a little bit desensitized. So like There was we were around each other a lot So I didn't have time to miss you and then the sex sort of plummeted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we had some I wasn't asking about this I was talking about feelings and emotions And since you brought it up

Suddenly he has six vagina pockets Yeah, I want to apologize for that full plummet. I think I detached, you know, and I I was scared We got really good at watching things together Yeah, long stretches of time and then eating together and doing the whole like Judd. We didn't leave Literally the building I was super parents for a year Like I never you would walk down the street or no, no, we wouldn't even do you wouldn't even do that I stayed in here for 12 Yeah, only seeing her and the dogs and cats. So there's no party that's like I can walk down the streets. I

Don't know because you're right. You're right. I think because I was a little nuts. She also was she's Immune compromised. Mm-hmm. Is that the right word? Well, she has comorbidities I have a heart condition or mobility. Yeah. All right. Sorry, Judd. She has a heart condition Mm-hmm, and I was afraid that if she got coveted that she it would do serious implications I was not afraid for myself. You're a smoker. I Read a French article saying the smoking helps it You know, you have the mouthwash Like if there's always smoke in your mouth 24 hours a day, I don't think you can get it

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Also, we read the same article. Yeah, black tar heroin. Try that All right, but I understand that where you would just kick it up another notch. Yeah Because you're like I am not gonna slip at all Yeah, I kind of went the other way a little bit which is like we can go to no boo, right? Was no boo open No boo has sitting outside They do and it's really windy and it's like you're above the water and at some point I was like Feel like

We're in a lot of equipment. I think this is okay But you do you find out like how much you're willing to risk my sanity Losing my mind so much I would study like air drafts and studies of like how like that Japanese study where this is what really threw me into Full paranoia they were like in one restaurant and the draft is going this way and 20 people who were six feet apart All got it and I was like, all right, it's over. We're all dying You're never allowed out or those like weird videos were like they show someone sneeze and like how far it goes It's all like black light and stuff. Yeah. Oh, no

Imagine if I was an X-Men and that was my power. That'd be a cool power. Yeah, I would never fucking get it Yeah, I mean imagine you go to a mall and you're like, no, I'm not gonna go to the fucking footlocker You also find out how you want to be alive. Yeah, like you really get a sense of like, do I really want to be alive? Yeah, I want to live. Don't you want to live? I'm trying to be like how much I wanted to live Because at some point I was like, it was a good life. I you know, I want to critics choice award once I could die now. Yeah, you know, I mean when you look when you look at your life. I mean Do you kind of go I did it? Yeah, I have a little bit of that because like what like the idea of like I did it was like get on evening at the Improv

I know like that was the only dream right when you really go What was the dream? It was very like get on the HBO young comedian special And so, you know, everything like beyond that was not the dream as a kid Right, it was just like to be you know, Jeff Altman or Seinfeld or something right right And so those were the dreams everything else was just like a weird other thing. Yeah You know, like I wanted to do a stand-up special before all my hair fell out and turned completely gray It was like I just want to do an hour where I kind of look okay And I got a Netflix special. I was like, okay, the hair looks pretty good

They lit the stage it looks a little darker than it really is. Yeah, and you don't see the bald spot I didn't use any of those shots behind me where you would see it So, yeah, there's some some of but what I mean, I've always respected you but there was one thing that I saw And I think I brought this up to you once I was at the Addison Improv I remember me bringing this up. I was at the Addison Improv and I was If you go to the Addison Improv the the the office is the green room as well, right? So it's like yeah It's just sitting there with like just you know computers and file cabinets and stuff And one day I was between shows so bored. I was opening up these cabinets. Yeah, and they had these dates and old lineups

Yeah, and in 1990. I don't know that I know the lineup Jeff Garland. Yes me and diane for exactly. Yeah, exactly. That was a fun week. I remember that you really do remember that week and uh I remember that, you know, we did one one show with garland and I don't think who the headliner was. I think it was Rick Reynolds. Do you remember? No, no, no, no Rick Reynolds was very like caustic kind of funny, but nasty comedian and and There was like a show where like Jeff garland wasn't feeling well or maybe he like I had like a

Thing where he like he felt like chest pain or something and like didn't finish his set or something But it was a serious thing where like he wasn't feeling well And then I just remember Rick Reynolds just shitting on him I'm like, hey, I'm really ripping on Jeff hard like, you know, like, you know, Yeah, that guy before me couldn't even get through it, you know And then Jeff was so mad that the guy would give him a hard time when he wasn't feeling well. Yeah, yeah But yeah, that was a great club at it's an improv. Is it still there? Yeah, it is still there and but what I loved about seeing that is is that

It just shows like your history of like because you know, obviously you're a great stand-up as well And to see you do stand up because you've come around the last three or four years That's how we were able to rekindle because We see each other the clubs. It's just like you're just Not only are you a good director and showrunner all that stuff, but you're like a genuine Stand-up. That's the point I wanted to make because it's like you you put in the work Yeah, you're not a guy that just came out of nowhere and was that fucking A director and decided to do stand up like you're the real

Deal, you know, I mean, I love those weeks at those improv's. I mean, I remember I went and auditioned for groundlings You know, I wanted to take groundlings classes I was like gonna sign up to take groundlings when I was in like the late 80s, you know, and maybe I was like 20 years old and then I I got into the improv and then they said you go on the road And I was like, well, I can't take classes every week if I'm on the road And I had to make this choice to take all the road gigs. Yeah, or learn how to do improv Yeah, at groundlings and instead I went to that's an improv and then I ever the week after that I went to Dallas and opened up for Dennis Miller. Wow back in whatever that was 1990 or

89 or something and Dennis Miller was on fire. I mean that was like the black and white special he did Yeah, and he just ripped the roof off the place. Wow Wow All that shit that history dude. I fucking love it It's a whole different generation of comics like that late 80s early 90s Yeah, I'm feeling was I'm familiar with some of them. You know, I mean like when I moved into town I mean, obviously we had the reg like guys like Carla bow. I don't know if he's from that time. Yeah You're like Carl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and um, I'm just fascinated

That's what like when I see marshal warfield or something at the comic store I always go up and say hi and go welcome back because I know But really what happened at pineapple express? We'd actually love to know like a running a running discussion of your trailer I feel like you were disrespected in some way I don't take a responsibility for any of it by the way We should run it back as people who are supposed to manage you correctly But but what happened what happened episode one I think was dedicated to your um

The pain you felt of what pineapple express I think so I think we dedicated a whole episode Well, what pain you've shared you shared pain and anger towards that. Oh, okay. They didn't have a trailer for you. That's what I heard But let me just say one thing when I heard you say that first of all I want to be honest about it because I don't want you to feel I don't want you to feel bad about it But I am a super people pleaser There's nothing I want more than every actor or crew person to feel very Respected so the idea that you showed up and they didn't have a trailer for you. No, no, no, you have it wrong

Everyone in the room has it wrong. Okay. Here we go. It's your side. So I was a cry baby. Yeah All right, so let me just apologize. I'm a little bitch, baby Bitch, baby, buddy. So you guys had trailers for me. Yeah every time I was there except for one day. Yeah, okay And that was the day when you guys had a lot of people just shooting that day you had I don't know 30 or 40 fucking people that are on the cast list. You know what I mean? It's a big fight scene Yeah, it's chaos, right production is chaos, right? And you guys said to me for one day Can you just stay here with these people? Yeah, which happens to be the extras. It's fine I said that one more time more believable. That's never okay. No, it was with the um

Background background actor the right background and which I made very good relationships Still talk very never don't know what they look like at my point. So our numbers were wrong We didn't realize how many people were there and we didn't have the room for you and of every person there We thought you were the one who would take the hit Okay, we could have done it to ken jung We could have done it We could have done it to craig robinson or kevin corrigan or gary coal There were so many people there, but for some reason they went down that sheet

Let's let bobby sit with all the with the extras. Oh god atmosphere, but all right, so You're right, but I made a mistake. Yeah, and I made a call to my agent at the time Yeah, and from what I heard not from you But from somebody else that was involved in production that he raised his voice and he was angry at us At not you specifically but he called us angry. Yes, right and I go. Why did you do that? You just made a big deal out of nothing In fact, I left that agency after that not right after that but like six months after that my point being Is is that we made a complaint?

Um, and secondly, here's another thing that I did that I never said out loud reveal it And I'm going to reveal it to you and I left the turret in the toilet In the trailer smeared it all over No, in fact those to poo in the trailers is difficult. Yeah, you could get they get stuck on the sides Yeah, you got to take a bottle of water and do your own fucking thing. You're just like me I just want to say this is why I like you Because like the description of like cleaning the poo remnant off the side of the trailer toilet Like most people, you know bell gibson's like cleaning off the side

He's just like someone will get that later. Right me and you are like, let me get that And there's no one will never will never we'll never meet the person that cleans it All right through the whole production, but we will do that. Yeah. Yeah, we will What what you are lying to jud through your teeth. He wouldn't clean it. He would never I he would call me to come over and clean it. That's a fact. There we go. He is not his He is not he doesn't this is 2007 Bobby. Okay. Thank you Who cared more and I just want to say something to you my my my girlfriend. I mean, right? Is is that um when I do that, right? It's not because for me and my I care about my environment

I care about whoever has to clean it after me and whoever maintains those trailers So I just didn't want them to see that I had pooed He's also pooed in the back of our Prius and I've had to In the park on a frisbee on a frisbee on a paper plate as well and I've had to collect Okay, he doesn't know that The key question is where does it go right after I threw it in the dumpster and this is information that I don't think mr Judd Apatow has to know that I pooed in my prius But was it because there was nowhere to go. I have well during the pandemic. Let's see. Here's a good example

Let's get into this. Yeah, um, nobody you couldn't just walk into any establishment and say can I use your restroom? Everyone was like nope our restroom. Thank you. So we were outside of my dermatology Office and I was like for the love of god, please do not poo. He's like I have nowhere else to go So wait a second, but you can have like your pimples popped, but he can't poo In a public toilet. Thank you. Correct. So what I did I was like nice one. You know what that's not It's kind of just a little side note before we even continue. That's why I love this guy, man I know it's little details Little details to back my man back me up. I was actually going to offer you a compliment because this time around

He put down a trader joe's bag before he pooed on top of it before that he would just bear back it Yeah, and go right into the oh Jesus the car upholstery Um, this time around he did think to put something underneath and then he packed it up himself and then where'd you put it? Yeah, I went to the nearest outside dumpster and I sometimes they're locked Right. I didn't put it on top. I found one that was unlocked courteous. Thank you so much And I double bagged it. No one smelled anything. Let's move on from it. Okay. It's funny because with poo, right? You have different phases of life where you you feel differently about it Like yeah periods of your life where like it's shameful and the door blocks and you clean up and you don't want anyone to know

It happens, but then there's other moments in your life where like you literally could just lift your leg like a dog And not care and understand like living in the woods and just like why do we care? Why are we ashamed? You know give me a fucking frisbee exactly what I wanted to say. I couldn't articulate it as well In fact, I don't even know if I said articulate right I don't think you I don't think I did the right but that's thank you so much for doing that my friend But what did you do at pineapple express that you're ashamed of? Oh god? Oh, this is your revenge thing now. You have to reveal it. All right, so And this is so shameful for me and it's so funny because

The ad Right is the same ad that does a show that I'm on called reservation dogs on fx And I apologized for her about this too when I saw her when I worked with her Is so there was a scene where I got shot in the head by Seth Rogen in the movie. Yep I feel so shameful and afterwards They go

Just lay your body down here Because we need it for you know What do you call it? You know the word continuity continuity That bodies always have to be there, right? But there were some angles where they were shooting wides and stuff where I just knew For a fact. I'm not in the shot. I'm not We made you later all day, right

Is that me? Yeah. Yeah, so I like that this is considered a nice thing I did for you Impactful impactful. Thank you for that. I'll help this help the career Yeah So there was so there was a time like an hour or two in a couple of setups I just stood up and I go i'm not laying there anymore Right and they're like well, it'd just be better if you did And I remember being kind of a bitch about it And it's just something that I would never do now

Like I would lay there for three days. How long was it at that point how long Like on and off I mean at the end of the day probably a 30 minute question is like you look pretty it's a relaxing thing to do Why wouldn't you just lay there a little longer? Well, that probably the fake blood probably gets all gooey. Thank you This flies stuck to it. But not only that you don't understand that there's a metal plate in my head Oh There was a metal plate in my head because they had to put an explosive on the other side of the metal plate You're laying on a metal. Yeah, so when he's shooting me, right? There's an explosive, right? So now i'm laying

Not only there's sticky blood But there's a metal plate into my brain. So is this the thing you're ashamed of that you got up? That I didn't sit there forever and I apologize. Okay. Well, that's actually those are two things But you know how you know we were abusive to you And you've said this before and I disagree go ahead is that you got up? And we were like, all right You know like we didn't You weren't in the shot

Right, I tell you something that's like terrible about maybe the early stages of my career Go ahead. There is nothing I would have found funnier than to make you lay in blood all day off camera Telling you you're on camera. I wouldn't do that now, but as a young person So you fucking knew no, I'm saying I don't think that's what happened. Yeah. That's the kind of thing that would have made me laugh Like Bobby doesn't even know he's not on camera That is pretty funny like we did uh, you know, uh happy Gilmore, you know with our friend Alan covert and we made him play a homeless guy and

So we told him like you can play the homeless guy But you have to start growing a beard now like six months Before the movie shot. Yeah, but really the whole idea of him playing a homeless guy was just To force our friend to grow a beard like you can make him grow And then And then yeah, there it is and then and then in the next movie We just thought oh, he should have a a perm Like

Fuck with him But for no reason and we were like let's tell him the character has a perm and then he goes to the wedding singer. Yeah. Yeah, and then He had to get a perm That's so funny And we would never tell him like this is all just because it's so funny to change your hair. That's amazing That's how big that beard is. That's insane. That is like that's not like a month or two What a funny guy though. I love that. Oh, yeah, he's a lair. Yeah, a really funny guy Let me ask you something another question. I want to ask you since I have you here is reshoots bad

No, no, I don't think so. I think that you know, sometimes you put the movie together And you go, oh man, if we had this scene here and this scene there, this would really Have you had to do that? I'll tell you if I anything when I direct I've never done a reshoot. Oh, wow all laziness Oh, okay all laziness, but when I produce I always make them do reshoots if they need them But for some reason and this is like strange The second we're done shooting in my head the world has disappeared And I don't want it to come back together

It's like it's like a neurotic thing. Like I don't like it would make me uncomfortable to go Let's get everyone from you know Funny people together to shoot one scene. It'll really help this section like in my head. I'm like, they don't exist anymore Oh, wow, and I just don't want to do it. I'm always working. I get way too much footage when we shoot So that like when we're shooting I'll think What would the reshoot be and I'll shoot it during the shoot I'll let's oh, if it's not funny enough. Let's shoot. I'll shoot some funnier here. Oh, I need probably maybe we need a dramatic moment Maybe it'll need to be sweeter and I'll shoot that during the shoot. Are you thinking of that shit when you're actually shooting?

That's what I'm doing. I'm literally going if this sucked What did I do wrong? And I'm fixing it Within the same day. So I might shoot multiple variations of the same scene Just to cover my ass, but you know, there was great reshoots and well anchorman We Adam McKay directed that and wrote it with will Well, we tested it and it just tested so badly And they rewrote the movie and they rewrote the a story

Like the main story. Wow was a reshoot. It wasn't like a couple of fill-in things It was like an eight or nine day everything with the bears Oh, wow, and that that entire idea was a reshoot So now when you're talking to like the studio or whatever are they arguing against it or you're going trust me this is Needed well in that case we tested it and you know anchorman was a new kind of Comedy style so the audience they weren't really sure what was happening And then the story wasn't tracking the way it should And then Adam had to convince the studio that we could make the whole movie end with

Like will ferrell jumping into a bear den Like let me tell you how we fix this very expensive movie Yeah, yeah, it's all about him and and we'll get real bears And and do it and they were like that doesn't sound funny and and adam And will had to sit like the executives down and explain why bears are funny And and the history of bears in comedy And then they were right wow and then it did work. So yes, we've done reached it. So It's not necessarily

A big problem. Okay. Have you been to hunkering? I have not I don't know if the jews are allowed in hunger. There's a man Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, so the story that I told that you texted me. Yeah, were you offended by that? What was by the joke that you told the river? Yeah It wasn't that I was offended or not offended. I just felt for you So they could take it. Thank you. I felt it. I understood that moment of you know being with a bunch of people You're intimidated. They're famous actors and so you go. I'm gonna be me I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna tell like a joke. You shouldn't tell Just to be like look we're bonding and hungry together. Yeah, and they look at you probably looking at each other like

I don't think it looks good for me to laugh at this Right, so you don't even know if they found it funny, but like it would look bad to laugh Right, and then you feel like oh, no, I'm not one of you. I'm the dirt. You know when I felt like that I used to be a writer at the critic So this is you know in the early 90s and everyone on the staff Went to harvard. They were all you know writers from the simpsons and things like that And I was just young and kind of filthy and stupid and I would make really terrible dirty jokes And they would go oh jud you've outwitted us again

And I felt like the idiot in the room. Yeah, and so I just felt bad that you felt bad Because well sometimes the window the river and the baby shoes Yeah, and the window of opportunity wasn't it was two seconds long because sometimes it's too late to say it Right, so it was like let's see. This is a if I'm going to do that. I'm doing a streamer. Okay, right? He goes, oh Baby shoes and this is it could have been a mid right. I got it right in the time Because after that you couldn't have told it, but this was wrong. I should have edited that. Yeah Yeah, yeah, because when I said it

They all turned their backs to me And it was but I giggled inside deep down. You didn't you called me crying. I know I did That's zenbusiness.com slash belly I understand why are you laughing? No, I'm not lying. You're right. I did cry to you. Yeah, because it was embarrassing But I said deeps inside. Oh, gotcha deeper deeper Yeah, yeah, you were rejoicing there's different levels and deep down inside And it's still there. It still makes me laugh Yeah, I have so many of those I have hundreds of those

Of awkward moments that I in the middle of the night. I'm like How'd you do? I have so many of those I just and for me, they're not even off of like, you know Doing the joke you shouldn't do they're just off of you know, not recognizing someone fast enough or calling someone by the wrong name Or you know, and then then giving me shit and I was like, oh Yeah, you know, I think you had one of those stories with Judd I think you guys went to like a benefit thing together And then you go back really sad the Seinfeld. Yes. No, but that wasn't that that wasn't because no, but you came back really no because

reveal it, baby because um Seinfeld's wife. Yeah kept calling me Billy. No. Yeah, Robby or Robby. Yeah. Yeah, right It kept calling me Robby and I think one point I said it's Bobby, but she kept calling me Robby Right, it's kind of the same. It's kind of the same, but I'm also with you Yeah, you mean and you're embarrassed and like that you didn't like know how to correct it. Yeah Is it would Could you correct her in that moment because I would be too awkward. I would never correct her either. I let them go I know, but I don't think that's healthy. Is that healthy? I don't know if someone's just like, hey Jebediah, what are you doing?

I'm Jebediah the rest of the day. Oh really, you know, like people say like is it apatow or apatow? I'm like either way's fancy. That's how I am. I don't correct people about my name anymore That's not like it's whatever you need. Well, your name is Kalilah. It's hard. It's hard, but that's what I'm saying It's just it's whatever you need it to be. You know what my thing is I like wouldn't say your name out of fear That I would mispronounce it and then as a result of that I forget it And I have that with like tons of people where I'm afraid, you know If it's like is it Kirsten or Kristen and then I just panic never say it and then at some point

I don't even know what it is. Yeah. Well, I hate it when they're mad and you're close Yeah, so it's like hey Christina. It's Christine Yeah, I know how it's quiet. I met you one time. Well, Robbie is close to Bobby. You shouldn't have felt that bad I didn't lash out. You well, you came home crying so much crying because I What is your reaction because I internalize it right because for me it's like, you know as A comedian and also you audition a lot and you get a lot of rejection So you teach your face to not show pain Yeah, right because it's like even on stage, you know this when the crowd just no matter what you do

They just not Into it and you and if you reacted viscerally to The response you would show it on your face and they would make it worse So for me is I've trained my face to just be like I'm bombing You know what I mean? I'm Robbie. I'm fine. I'm Robbie. Yeah, I'm Robbie. You know what I mean? Robbie's having a blast But inside it's in inner turmoil

Like with what judges said like there are times where I'll lay in bed and I'll think of where I got boot off I got boot off a stage in front of 20,000 people. Oh, okay. Yeah, you know what I mean? I got literally boot off what show is that these are the show called the dog house comedy night in San Jose it was at the amphitheater And this is back in the early 2000s. They had like Chappelle Mancia

Pablo Francisco, I mean the line-ups were in saying cat Williams and And I had a follow Leslie Jones. I've told the story before and I When I walked up on stage, I just remember things being thrown at me Before you started I said a couple of words and then all of a sudden it became like the matrix So I mean like what the fuck right and then you could just hear people going Yeah, because Leslie I'm sure had a composed She really brought the room into a place of listening Yeah, I mean she

She probably she jumped out. She jumped off the stage and started dry humping Like a younger white skinny white kid in the audience and obviously the cameras on her It's up on the projectors or whatever and the place is going wild and backstage. I knew That I was going to go through something And when I went through it I still Three four in the morning. We'll just be sleeping and just go But something triggered the idea of let's remove him from the stage

Right, right like something like that part. Yeah. Yeah, because you could follow that and go like what the hell was that? Jesus and like kind of try to let's let's acknowledge what just happened. Yeah, and try to Figure, you know, but you clearly did something you don't remember That triggered like it because the crowd has to feel like it would be fun right now To make him cry and run off this Right, like it's a it's a group, you know, it's a mob mentality. I think I made the mistake Of saying something like, you know, I mean, well, Leslie had to do that to get a laugh. Oh, you said you're Thing where it's like they loved her so much. Yeah, and I said one little negative thing

And then the audience went fuck you Yeah, right because they had so much fun and you shame them for enjoying it, right? You shame them for having because I that's always like, you know that art of Uh, can I keep the energy going? Right. Yeah, like you cannot you like there's so much Energy in this room like I was at the cellar once and I was supposed to follow Ray Romano and Ray Romano, you know He's amazing. Like he's just that's his room Like it's just

Pandemon because he's just he's just so solid the act is so great and I'm about to go on there like dice is here Can you go on after dice? I'm like, okay. I'll go on after dice. So it's like the clean kind of perfection and then dice is like, you know, uh I mean, what was he saying? You got to bedazzle the pussy And dice is playing the room like it's ready to see the musical right right? He wasn't doing like a screw-around dice set. He was doing a here's the best I have. Wow. Wow. And then you're like, all right, what? It's just going. Yeah. Yeah. How'd you do? I did well because I what I did was for some reason dice stayed in the room And just like stared at me watching my sat

I know a little bit, but he's just like decided to and he's so tall and everyone could just see him there Yeah, and I just reviewed his set with him And this guy's how it applied to my relationship. That's cool. That's how it wouldn't really generally fly in my home He's a nice guy. The nicest guy. Yeah, I think he's general. We've had him on this podcast. We love him Yeah, I am so good. How did you? With because you took a break from stand-up. Mm-hmm. So how long was that break? Well, I would go up and like un-cabaret or some of those types of shows, but really was a very it's like from like 92

till 2014 yeah, you know, I mean, I really didn't do it for forever and there was a moment where I realized I don't even know anyone is Like in comedy like I haven't even gone to clubs. Yeah, the other thing I want to see like chris rock do a concert or something I really was paying no attention and I think I loved it so much And was so into it that I burnt it out where I just didn't care At all about it and it took me decades to

Get interested in it. Yeah again because you were just around all the time I every second of the yeah, yeah And I was also the host that the improv so I would do the improv from eight to 130 in the morning for years Really? And so I was really fully, you know, immersed but I've talked about this before but I also got bummed that some of my friends were so Amazing that they were legendarily funny that I think it mentally broke me Uh, oh wow, you know, because I feel like your best buddies are like sandler and jim carrey. Yeah Even when you're doing well

You're like, I don't think I'm as good as this guy And I don't think I can get as good as these guys like this is magic. Yeah, and And I was like, what would I do and I could write jokes for them I understood why it was working and I was in awe of them because it was exciting to watch Them rise and crowds begin to go. Oh my god. It's them. They're you know, they're the next legendary people But on some level it really depressed me. Yeah, yeah like really like I like I need to stop because I don't want to be Okay Yeah, you know, I don't want to just be okay. Now. I'm okay being okay. Yeah

Now it's about jim because like I feel like I'm older I can be like a host that I can just be like a friendly person in the world of comedy I don't have to reinvent the forum and people know me and I could tell some stories about shit that happens But back then I just thought god damn it. I'm not gonna be it's not gonna happen Yeah The way it's happening for them, but there's something up, but you know this there's something about stand-up that's like It there's a there's a feeling up there that you get nowhere else. I think it's also in a very addictive kind of a feeling it's like um

It's it's one of those things where I never will stop doing it. I don't think yeah because it's just such an intricate part of just my life And it gives me so much joy even when I'm doing bad Right. There's something visceral and great about it, you know Judd, I just want to say I've wanted you on this podcast since I've done it And I'm so glad you're here We have a thing at the end what we call it's called unhelpful advice And people email us problems. Okay, and you can answer it the best way you can

I will but also I just want to say this and this is as another side This went this podcast went 50 times better That could ever imagine it being It was perfect Okay, so go fuck you guys I love it. They were naysayers. They said no, they weren't no. They were like this is going to be amazing. Oh, this guy was a naysayer Yeah, I was nervous. I feel like we didn't even cover that much. We you're gonna come back again Of course because let me tell you something. I used to live right around the corner from here. No, really?

Don't you love this? I love this area. I love this. Love you. Yeah. Yeah, but I just want to say thank you Um, do the unhelpful advice before unhelpful. We actually have one fan question. Oh, we have fan question one fan question Yeah, we're okay. Go ahead. This is from Cory Hubble Uh, it's for job, but everyone in the room can answer you get to create or jump into all kinds of comedic projects But if you could without constraint jump to an existing ip or totally spin up your own version of something No network interference or studio interference. What would it be? Like marvel star wars anything um

It'd be fun to to do like another hangover movie If you had the great idea, I feel like people wanted so bad Yeah, yeah, right like right now the world's like give us a good hangover I've been in the house for two years. I want to hangover. Yeah, but that movie would be Like a gift to the world. I think so too. Yeah, that would be a fun one. Did you produce that one? I had nothing to do with it. Oh, but they're all so funny and I Yeah, you know and zack is is the funniest so oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah either that or What

What what else There's like dune. There's marvel historical logan. I want to do another logan logan too. Yeah, logan too. Yeah Good one. That's the fucking thing man And then someone asked this is from rare from radio. Just asked would you ever direct a horror movie? You know, we've tried to come up with horror movies and we weren't we couldn't crack it Yeah, like me and bill hater for years. We're working on like a bill hater horror movie and he had an amazing idea And it just never we couldn't close And just have it really work

Yeah, what but maybe we'll go back at it again, but he just he had a great idea and uh, was it a comedy a horror comedy? Yeah, like a yeah, like a like a shone of the dead kind of yeah Yeah, so one day it would be it'd be fun to do that because why don't do those movies not do well or something that genre or horror comedy Horror comedy people don't try that off. But they do do well when when they're good If the horror was played real, yeah, right? It's hard though. It's hard to be funny You know other than you know, like in pineapple where That was funny. That was funny image All right, unhelpful advice unhelpful advice with barbie kalayla at

Dear everyone in the room. It's a great honor to be speaking with you. May your advice be unhelpful I feel as though my life is stagnant and dreary. My life is going nowhere Even when I try to accomplish things that give me passion in life music and art I feel like it doesn't matter anymore. No one cares. No one respects my work and I haven't achieved any excess Any success? How do you find the strength to keep persevering against all the odds? sincerely rye wolf You can't live in the results

You know, you can't go I'm going to do this and this is going to get me a b and c You have to do it for the love of doing the thing, you know, he's saying something else. What is he saying then? Even if you do something he's passionate about he's not finding joy in anything which sounds to me more like a chemical About no, but I think the reason why he's not finding joy is because he thinks that that these things are going to give him something else Right, but if he just immersed himself in the actual art of it and go I created a great piece And no, no, okay Well, I mean, I know it's a little like broad. I don't know what's what's what's give us another one man But god bless you and take care

Tell him it'll be okay, barbie. Yeah, I know this guy's like you're gonna be good. You're gonna be good. You're gonna be good Rock bottom. All right. Give him something real. You should try give him something too. Stop. Stop. Stop. I think you're right I think we should fucking save this guy. All right, so don't say that it wasn't specific. I'm gonna say I'm gonna give him go Go ahead Like flip it Just try to do something nice for somebody else Maybe you're too much in your head on like how I'm feeling and what I'm accomplishing and just Make your life for a moment or some moments

Like what can I do to make someone else happy or something to help someone else heal? Like maybe just the the self involvement of that just you drown in it and you can't do anything It's like uh, the buddhist idea of non-attachments All pain comes from wanting something All right, remember you'll need to lose what you cling to but also it goes back to alcoholics synonymous, right? the reason why that program work is because It's a program of reaching out and getting out of yourself

So it's a lot about like reaching your hand out and saying hello to a newcomer who's scared Right. It's just the act of doing something like that It just makes your life you just feel better about you and your place in the world Is when you get out of yourself and you help somebody else Is that what then something creative might happen? There we go. Then something else might bubble back up because you're feeling better. There's a thing that You that person could look up, which is called tonglin meditation t-o-n-g-l-e-n which is

Where you breathe in the pain and suffering of other people and you take it from them And then you breathe out like kind of clear fresh clean filtered air And it does something to your brain where because you're always trying so hard to like have everything work out for you And when you it literally chemically flip it to Thinking about other people. It's somehow. I don't know. I think it It boots up your brain in a different way, but it's uh, but if you look it up, it's really interesting It's like if you're just like my life's my life sucks. You're like breathe in all of bobby's pain

Send him love and joy for some reason it puts you in a good mood. I don't know why but it works Which I don't know why what you're talking brought me up another situation you and I I found You know also one night. I saw you the night Trump won The presidency you guys you guys celebrated. No, I saw you at the store that night, right? And I remember seeing your face, right? And I remember going you shouldn't say hi to him right now Yeah, it was such a glum feeling that first

Well first the four years of glum, but especially right when it happened. It was such a fucking traumatic Did you say hi? I think I did say hi, but it was like more you just felt it all coming You felt it all coming like this isn't gonna be like a little funny, you know, like if alex trebek became president Yeah, like stuff is about to go down Whatever it is. I know it's gonna be exhausting like this is gonna be really draining. Yeah. Yeah, and uh, that's a feeling I remember seeing you going and I just remember your mom your face in my head That was what I remember of that day. You know what it is I feel like what you know when I when I look back on it now

Just having such a visceral reaction to him as like, you know, like an abusive parent Yeah of some kind that you really felt his lack of Compassion for people and I think it just scared me like to just feel like He doesn't really care and we saw that like during the pandemic where Choices were made to for people to get reelected and not to save lives And that really was the metrics for a lot of the decision-making was holding on to power And that's what I was scared of like what if we had somebody that kind of wasn't looking out for us

Yeah Was looking out for himself first and it it I'm sure I'd like tapped into whatever My trauma is in some way for most a lot of people like we you know, we want that person to be nurturing In some way. Yeah I think that's what what it is. You know, um In terms of trauma, but I think next time he's president, it'll be better. You think so. Yeah. Yeah You think he's gonna run again. Of course. Oh, yeah. Yes. They're running. Yeah. Yes. They're running in because The reason why you have to run again is because if you don't you just get sued and prosecuted for the rest of your life

But the second he says he's running if they try to do anything to him They're like you're doing it for political reasons. So you have to run again just to get off the hook for Everything else and he's probably just bored. I always wonder why he doesn't get tired How you know, he's a sociopath is he's not aging. He just doesn't age like everyone when they leave the presidency Their hair is gray and they look like like they would beat the shit out of them and he looks better now He doesn't feel what other people feel in somewhat another red flag for me was that he didn't have a dog No, he doesn't like dog. I know but it's not like you're laughing Dude, any president doesn't have a dog. It's just weird. It's like yeah anybody you can tell he doesn't like them

Hmm. Yeah, you can tell that he if he's in a room with a dog and you close the doors That he wouldn't even look the dog's direction. What if he found out like he was into hamsters? Well, I mean, I think that would be a plus but he liked sharks remember he was in like shark week Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is like every president what pets they had. Yeah, you're right. Nothing nothing every president There's even some that have parrots. Yeah Dogs, yeah, yeah, it's I think that's one with that animal. I think that's a weird Look at who did who was that hoover hoover hoover. Jesus. Oh, well, he's an animal hoarder Yeah, that's unhealthy

Healthy guy healthy guy. Yeah Anyway, I wanted to talk to you about something else that sprung up You know, I just do it bobby just do it Just say it so you raised by your dad Mainly or well, my parents broke up when I was in middle school and my mom moved out and then I lived with my dad Yeah, I think that's what I read somewhere. And so yeah, it was kind of flipped But your mom is that she worked at a comedy club in the summer somewhere and Is that true? Well, my parents owned a restaurant

Yeah, and this guy Rick Messina was the bartender and then he started opening comedy clubs after he left Yeah, like East Side Comedy Club on Long Island. He would then Signed Tim Allen and Drew Carey and he became this gigantic manager. Yes But back then he was like the bartender at our restaurant and then after my parents got divorced He was running this club called the East End Comedy Club in Southampton and My mom who went from like kind of a upper middle class

Family suddenly was broke and got a job seating people at this comedy club in the summer And I always used to think what do they pay her when you get paid to seat people at a comedy club in 1983 like Five bucks an hour and and it took me decades to realize like oh on some level She must have only got it because she knew I was interested Oh You know and you know, she passed away and And and I just saw it. Well, she must have just Taken it because she knew I and I did I went every show

Wow that whole summer and and then I got a job as a dishwasher at a comedy club. Wow. That's how I Learned about comedy. That's how I was a bar back at the La Jolla comedy store in 95. I watched dishes back there Wow. Yeah, I just remember every nook and cranny of that place Because even though you're young and you're in a comedy club It's dreamy Was it a dreamy? Oh, yeah, I was a dishwasher And uh, and then I was like, I can't see the show. I'm in the kitchen Why am I in the kitchen? So then I became a bus boy

Oh, yeah, and then I could see the show and like Rosie O'Donnell was coming and she just started Eddie Murphy was coming in. He was 21 years old At that time So I'd have my dad drive me there. My dad would drive me like chuckles and governors, you know At all, even they were very supportive and then I would use all the money I made as a dishwasher for the cab home So I'd be done like 2 30 the morning like cleaning the kitchen mopping the kitchen And then it would cost me like 50 bucks to get home Did your parents see your success? Right? They did right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh good. Good. My mom did good

Well, Judd, I'm sorry any time you ever want to promote anything, you know, I mean, but this is a A big deal for us. Thank you so much, Judd. Give him a round of applause every Judd Hey Prime members, you can listen to tiger barely ad free on amazon music Download the amazon music app today Or you can listen ad free with wondery plus in apple podcast before you go Tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey