TigerBelly - Ep 327: Tony Hawk, Jason Ellis, You're Gonna Love These Guys!

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

Bobby gives the Jackie Chan backstory to the Mad TV poo story. Tony breaks one Olympic rule. Jason gets Shane Gillis banned from TigerBelly. We talk ollieing dumplings, , Bobby's poseur past, and Skankfest paid hecklers. Listen to Hawk vs Wolf: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hawk-vs-wolf-podcast/id1553164725 Support us by supporting our sponsors!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening ad-free on Wondery Plus. Welcome to another episode of Tiger Belly. Hi. I'd be good at ASMR, I think. 100%. What about climbing a tree? Does that seem like it? That's good. Is it more of a koala doing it?

Yeah, it's an animal. Yeah, yeah. Dude, if I was an animal, I'd be a good koala, bro. I mean, if I were cute, I'd be the cutest koala. For sure. Okay, let's move on. No one... No one says...

No one's red panda. Hey, bro, you don't talk until I introduce you. My bad. Jay, thank you so much for coming. Sorry about that. It's okay, and I really like you. And I know that when you first came up, I was kind of like jabbing you a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah, but that because I love you. No, I noticed. I listen to all your shows. I'm a huge fan, which is making me intimidated. But at the same time, I'm confident enough to hang, I believe. Okay. So I'm not going to let you intimidate me.

That's what I'm saying. Am I intimidating you now? Because you look like a buff painting right now. Is that an intimidated look? Yes. Well, then, yeah. Okay, all right, let's move on. Let me get to the intro.

He's got godlike ability, and I'm intimidated. Do you really think I do? Wow. Yes. More like Buddha, no? Yeah, or like a higher power. I don't know his skills. Anyway, let me introduce...

You guys get along, you two? I don't... You can't see it? It's like video. You guys do? Video, yeah. I'm just watching the fireworks. All right, all right, so anyway, we've got...

A headbutt of the mannequin. Why did you... Where? On the back of my head. I know, but what part of the mannequin did you hit with your head? Oh, that's fine. Okay. Yeah.

Just as long as it's not the, you know, the privates, man. Don't get canceled. Don't get canceled. Okay. Okay. Are you ready now? Okay. Jay.

We've got Gilbert in the room. What's up? Your face is flatter than ever. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm just going to introduce both of you now, okay? Now, I want to say this, and Tony, don't feel weird about it, but, you know, I've had a lot of guests on the show, you know, and I'm going to lock eyes with you because I'm

not going to be intimidated by you, right? Okay. I'm going to lock eyes with you. I don't think I'm intimidating. You are. You do intimidate me, but I'm not afraid. Okay. Here we go.

Thanks for coming. Anyway, I want to say that I grew up watching no sports. I didn't know anything about, so I don't know how pass interference works. You know what I mean? I don't know, you know what I mean? Double backs. I don't know double falls. I don't know anything about any sport at all.

I've never learned. I refuse to. Yeah. But the only sport that I have had interest in is skateboarding because of the fact I grew up in San Diego, Poway, and then when I, I moved to La Jolla and I moved, I had a coffee shop job and all these people from Tom Tomietto skateboard, you know what I mean? Company would come.

This is back in the nineties. Yeah. Would come and hang out at the coffee shop and I learned skateboarding. I grew up with Bones Brigade in the eighties and I heard him talk about pop chevets on the show. Yeah. My brother can do a pop. I've never learned, I can't Ollie because I know what it is.

Yeah, but I'm shaped like a dumpling. So my just like my body just doesn't work. Dumplings. Don't do it. Can they? Dumplings can. They can. Oh, I didn't know that.

Well, then I'm, then I'm a broken dumpling. Dude, you're not real. I'm a fucking broke. I'm not a real dumpling. So here's the introduction. I'm a huge fan of this next guy. Video games. I love his video games.

Some of the combination moves that you have to do in that less the reissue of the thing is fucking bullshit. It's fucking. You have that. Why you brought me here? Yes. I want to tell you, dude, you have to Ollie and then you have to do a switch to continue the fucking combo ridiculous and then do another fucking.

It's too fucking hard, bro. All right. I'm not fucking a regular Asian. Regular Asians can do this shit. Yeah. I'm like, oh, I lost the fucking manual anyway. So you're just out of practice. Yeah.

Hi, girlfriend. Kalyla. Hi, I'm Kalyla. So nice to meet you. Hi. So soccer had little messy. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

This is the last couple of me going to give you without getting a little messy, right? Football has Tom Brady. Sure. And I think skateboarding has Tony Hawk and his friend, Jason. Okay. He dropped off. It dropped hard. Uh-oh.

Give them a round of applause. Thank you. Thank you. I think. Thank you, I think. Thank you, I think. So Tony, why is it so hard to do those combos? You know what?

Here's, let me, let me go back. We met a long time ago. We worked together a long time ago. That's right. And you and Will. Right? Will Sasso. Yeah.

Will Sasso. And you guys were massive fans of THPS. Oh, huge. Huge. I mean, you guys are like, that was zeroed in. Right when I met you, it was just like talking about video games. And I think that if you were playing the way you played back then, you wouldn't have a problem.

That's what I'm trying to say. No, no, no. You know what? I, I, I, I, you know, I get what your argument, right? But I'm going to say that. You were much better before. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no.

What I'm going to say to you, right, is I need to argue against that. And the demo, that very first demo back way back in the day. Pizza. Right. It was just a warehouse demo. Yeah. Right. I played that a thousand times, dude.

It was so much. I'm just saying it's just so much more complex now. All right. But it just looks better. It looks better. It's a good game. It's a good game. They keep us around possible.

It's a good game. It's all right. Yeah. How do you guys get along? Why do you guys get along? How? I'm a secretly a billionaire. My parents are, and they pay him to befriend me.

I have a magical life. I get what I want. And if I would get it. Why'd you have to expose it now, Jason? I cry to papa. So you grew up wealthy. I'm a billionaire. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Okay. You might have heard of the, I don't know, a really rich family. That's me. You mean the Rolls-Rockfellers? Kellogg's. Oh, the Kellogg's. My dad's name is Steve Kellogg's.

Okay. I like how his name is the apostrophe. Steve Kellogg's. Well, I've never had royalty here, so welcome. You're welcome. Welcome, JJ. I'll probably give you a large sum of money before I leave as well. Oh, thank you so much.

It's usually how it works, right, Tony? Oh, thank you so much. I guess. So what do you talk about on your podcast? We talk about, well, there's always a theme of skateboarding. That's in there for sure. And as of late, a theme about being older skateboarders, which we both are. That's in there too.

He's having a bit of a resurgence of his career. He was a pro skater and became a successful MMA fighter. No. Radio host on SiriusXM. Yeah. Which where we started. On SiriusXM 2004. Doing a show there.

But we were friends before that. We were friends before that. But that was our journey into broadcasting. But what you say is what everybody says. What? Why are you friends with each other? Skateboarding before people were like, wait, you're going over to Tony's house. And I'm like, yeah, that's my friends.

And they're like, why? Because he asked me, because we're going to hang out. Yeah, but why? Is it like a demo or are you getting paid to like expose your tattoos? What is it? Am I? Because I like him. We hang out.

And a couple of my good friends never understood that. Yeah. We came from different worlds of skateboarding for sure. But we always got along really well. And I think just connected on other things. So it was what was like, we always had each other's backs, even though we were in different camps kind of. Yeah.

He's not full of shit. And I was into, if you're full of shit, you need to fuck off in skateboarding. I was a righteous skateboarder. And he was an undercover reality based guy. Everyone thinks it's all Tony Hawk fucking McDonald's ads. Tony Hawk doesn't bullshit, doesn't lie, doesn't fucking exaggerate. Like he's pretty laid back considering he's the greatest skateboarder that ever fucking lived.

You know, it's like all those little things combined to me. I'm like, you're the realest dude out of all of us. Well, it's also, can I just throw something else out there? Yeah. He's also, I think you're emotionally strong. I know you seem to be maybe sensitive at times, but the shit that you were getting in the 80s and stuff back in the day, right? You were being so young and being able to fucking absorb that shit

and still perform under that kind of pressure is fucking amazing, dude. Yeah. I definitely had my share of haters. Yeah. For the years. Well, no, like you couldn't see it. Your poker face, you always look like they weren't getting to you. Yeah.

I mean, I think that I just, well, I went through it. It's really strange because I went through it very early on, especially in elementary and junior high school where I was, I was blasted for being a skater. So already I was an outcast and being made fun of because it was like, you still skate? Like, haven't you grown up yet? Yeah.

And I'm 12. Wow. And then so I realized, okay, I'm not part of this crew, but I still love doing it. So then when I went and skated, it was, I was a weird kid because I was super scrawny. I was way smaller than everyone else. It was all dogtown and Z boys.

It was about, it was about your style, partying. And I'm just like a little nerdy kid from San Diego. And so there's like, who's this kid? And then I'm, I'm allying into my areas, which was kind of unheard of at the time and they thought I was cheating. So then I became an outcast in this outcast community that I fell in love with. And I was just always like on this island and just came to realize like, I don't care.

I love doing this. So I'm just going to keep doing it. And eventually got way better at it and kind of shut down the haters. But it definitely prepared me for all kinds of other issues like that in terms of social media and, you know, being called a sellout and all this stuff. And I was like, shoot, you should hear the stuff that used to say to my face. Wow. Because they're hiding behind anonymous Twitter.

What I'm talking about is just that, because I've heard that before, I guess over the years, you know what I mean? But it's like, if you didn't have the skills, right? That'd be one thing. But dude, you're just so technically advanced above all the other. I'm not, I feel like I'm kissing your ass. And I just, you know, I just, I'm just giving you your props. That's all.

No, I appreciate it. But also just in that, in that sense, I used to get made fun of because they said I was a robot or I was a circus trick skater. You know, it's like, he's twirling his board like a baton. And I was like, what? I thought that was, I thought that was good to try to do. But as a stand, I get, I hate, as a stand up too, right? Somebody will come back six months after they saw me the first time.

And they'll be like, wow, he's still doing the same jokes. Yeah. Because I'm perfecting the fucking bit, man. You know what I mean? Imagine if we got in trouble for doing the same tricks. Right. It'd be over. Everybody'd be very angry.

It would be over. Yeah, yeah. But your poker face is not very good. What do you mean? I mean, when, when the haters come on strong. Yeah, me too. I'm not good. Show us your poker face.

What you mean, when I'm on stage, you mean, or when I'm reading it online? Any other time. Okay, this is. Bobby Lee, you're a hack. This, I read that. Yeah. Okay. Let me just open up the phone.

Yeah. And then scroll a little bit. And so let me read a couple that are positive. And then you read. So nothing to do today. Drink my coffee. With a straw. You know what I mean?

Cigarette. I smoke like European. I don't know if Europeans smoke. Right. So let's look up the phone, my little, right, the lock. Yeah. Twitter. Twitter.

Twitter. You're great. You're wonderful. Go ahead. Bobby Lee's a hack. Fuck. And then I go, I bring up the razor. And I don't do this way.

I go along the way. Yeah. Correct way. The correct way. I get real. I'm so sensitive. What's your poker face like, Jason? I have one.

I just shut off and I look like I'm going to punch you in the face. Oh, really? Yeah. It happened at the show. It's very effective. Yeah. I did a show at Skankfest. My, the Jason L show in front of a live audience and a comedian, a comedian that I really like,

that I haven't met, told a dude to come up to the stage and say, Hey, you guys suck. You're not funny. And, uh, and the guy came down and said it. And I was like, I'm not. I'm like, I thought we were doing good. And then I'm, I'm burying myself right now. And then the guy next to me, Dan Soto goes, wait, that guy got told by Shane Gillis to say that.

And I'm like, wait, Shane Gillis thinks I suck. That's way worse than a random dude. And they're all joking about it saying, Hey, don't worry. We discovered the culprit, but people DM me after the show came out. They could tell. Like I shut off and I was like, I, I really liked that guy. And I thought that the show was doing well. I thought I was like, pretty talented.

But to know that I suck is pretty fucked up. I, I saw him the next day and went up to him about it. And what'd he say? He said, I was just joking. And I was like, well, I think you're really funny. Even if you don't think I'm funny, regardless. I'll sit back down now. Wait, what?

He may know he made up for it. He did. Shane did. That's how you make up for it. He said, come on, man. I don't think you're not funny at all. Like he, if it's a bit that it's right. If that happened to you, you would shut down.

I know you Bobby. You were crying. I know. I left the venue and there were people like, man, Alice, what a show. And I was like, thank you. And I walked all the way back to my hotel, like shut off my wife. When I go back to the room, like what?

I'm like, it doesn't matter. Just someone. Oh, Jason. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. Don't worry about it. Fuck that guy.

And I noticed that the other guys didn't get touched by it. And I was like, you're touchy. Everybody else on stage was like, hey, you know, get listen. Yeah. Right on. And I was like, still like, how do I, is it me that sucked? Which part did I do that made it suck?

Oh my God. Better myself. Oh, I love a good downward spiral. Yeah. It's funny. It's all in here with us. Right? We assume things and our minds go out of control and all of a sudden

it's a whirlwind and you're out. You're fucked. Yeah. You know what I mean? I got booed off a stage in front of 20,000 people like 20 years ago. So things thrown at 20,000 people throwing bottles at me. I just like, you know how like a single tear funny? It's not a single tear came down my face like this.

And I just walked off stage. You didn't say bye. I didn't say bye. I remember seeing a replay and I was on stage going. I was so I was bombing so hard. I started mumbling on stage. I started going. And I couldn't even get a word out.

Damn. You just left? And I just left the stage. Check it out, bro. They still fucking paid me, dog. What's up? That's not a very good thing. That's a terrible ending.

It is. Yeah. That's not a movie. The better ending is that you went back the night after and you crushed it. No. I got paid. What's up? I'd say he's right.

The next night I did the same show, but I rearranged the lineup and then I killed. Wait, the lineup. You told the jokes in a different lineup. No, it's the lady I followed. I couldn't follow her was Leslie Jones. Wait, if somebody's was she really funny or really unfunny? She destroyed Leslie Jones. Leslie Jones is very funny.

Oh, so. Yeah. Don't go after it. What's up? Okay. I'm just starting to get into it. Yeah. Stand up.

Yeah. Yeah. It's the most thing I've ever done in my life. And I fight like, I thought it like 300 pound man on steroids once. And I was more nervous the other day going out in front of 500 people than anywhere near the bit. Right when I could tell Shane Khan was like, I'm going to knock you out. And I was like, oh, this is terrifying.

It's more scared when they said, you're going to love this guy. I was like, probably won't. I mean, fuck. But Jake, can you listen? Can you think of it in this way? You're on stage, right? And you have guys like, was it Sam Morrell or Mark Norman? Would you say was it there?

At the comic? At the comic. The comics that were there. It was Shane. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. No. Shane and Dan Soder.

Dan Soder. J. Ocuson. Right. So just those three alone, right? Good guys. Just those three alone. They're the best comics on planet Earth. They are heavy.

And you are with them. Right. You're in the same group with them. That's why. So what does that say about you? You're, you belong there. You should have been. It's not a fluke.

I needed somebody to say that because I was like, yeah, those are all heavy hitters, which means when he says this show isn't funny. It's me. No. No, no. That's what I thought. He's done our podcast before. He's banned.

We have a gillis band now. A ten year gillis band right now. Wait a minute. This funny comedy is not like me. You can't bully my friend. My little sensitive Australian friend over here. Wow. Right.

Fucking ban him. Write that down. Write it down. My bad, dude. Wow. Yeah. Off with his head. This is the biggest thing that's ever happened.

Yeah, bro. I have power, dude. Yeah. No, you do. Back to tone now. Yeah. Let's do that. I want to say another thing.

How you help me. Not indirectly. Okay. Okay. So, um, I remember there was a moment in your career where you were getting, you were back when you were, you know, a kid where you're being bummed about doing competitions, you know what I mean? It was bumming you out because of the pressure and always having to be, you know what I mean,

first or whatever, whatever, you talked to Rodney Mullen, right? Because he had gotten out of competitions. And then after that, your intentions were not necessarily to win, is to have fun and do the best you can, but to be in the joy of it. And that's helped me in my career as well. You know what I mean? Instead of looking at like a prize and or have to get there or if I don't do this perfect, this is not going to happen, right?

Yeah. Instead of just going in doing the best I can, having fun, enjoying my life and whatever the consequences is or whatever comes down from it, so be it. And I learned that from you, bro. Oh, thank you. It's very liberating. Yeah. Do you remember that conversation?

Of course, yeah. I mean, it was, well, I was definitely at a point, I mean, you know, the whole old saying, it's lonely at the top. It was really that when I would go to a contest, I was basically expected to win. And at some point, the judges were judging me against what they thought I was capable of as opposed to judging me against the other riders. So they would judge me super harshly if I didn't rise to that. And at some point I was like, this isn't even fun.

I don't, I'm not enjoying skating. I don't enjoy going to these events. I'm totally separated from everyone else. And so I just pulled back for a little while and then ended up having a conversation with Rodney, who had famously quit competing before, but said that it was because his dad forced him to. But in reality, he was going through what I was going through much earlier. Yeah.

And so when he told me that, and he's like, you just have to go with the idea that it's all or nothing and don't be, don't play a conservative, don't use the strategy, don't don't do it where it's consuming all of your thought and energy. Just go and go for it. And if it works out, it's going to be awesome. It doesn't. It cares. Yeah.

It's another one. Yeah. It's not the end of the world. Yeah. Yeah. And I also want to tell people out there is just that there's something cool about failing as well. Oh, there was such a deeper lesson in the failures.

And for sure, through those years, when I was not winning as much or maybe placing closer down the scale of the rankings, it was like, that just taught me that that's okay. And that, or you can learn from all that. You can learn what not to do and how not to accept that, like how to, what I mean is how to accept it to just think, okay, this is part of who I am. And it's okay that this one didn't work out and this next one might be better. And also, you learn to enjoy the, you learn to enjoy the wins, so to speak, better. Yeah.

Where they're not just constant and they start to not meaning. Also doing that process, you would win some too, just by doing it. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Yeah. You never came across as somebody losing. Like when you were having those contests that you weren't going in or maybe if you did, you didn't win every time, you still seemed to us that you were Tony Hawk.

Like if you got second one time, it was like the great Tony Hawk didn't do his best right. Shit happens. You're still him. Yeah, yeah. He's still him. Like when he... But it was easier for me to accept. Right.

Yeah. I never realized that you losing was a bad thing for you because I always lost. And it's like, yeah, I come to the contest and, you know, you never won anything. I won. I've, I've placed well, but in the standings, I think I was maybe third for a little bit because I just went to every contest and I stayed in the top five, but the best I ever did in a contest was third. I never won.

Do they, you get money for that? Yeah. Uh-huh. Just not. Not his money. Yeah. Yeah. I go, I'm not complaining.

I'm just, that's the way it goes. Like somebody's going to get third. Somebody's going to get fifth. I was one of those guys. Still had a really good time. But look at your life though. Look at your look. I don't know much about you, but just from what I've gathered, right?

You were skateboarder as a kid. Yeah. Yeah. Then you did radio. Right. Pretty, because I Googled it pretty popular. Yep. Right.

You, um, now you're in a completely different transition. You're still skateboarding, but you're doing the podcast. My point is, is that you're doing so many different crazy things in life. I mean, if somebody can find one fucking thing to do, right, is it's a miracle. You've found many paths. It's amazing. You feel better or no? I feel like I'm not, I feel like I'm not making you feel better.

I, I listen to you on the show. I feel better. I feel like you, you always fuck with people and I love him. Why would you assume, let me tell you something about third. I like this bit too. I listened to you do it. I'm excited. Have a good one.

Have a good one. Go. He, he's assuming that there was just a bunch of sorrow in your end and I hate that because you are, you were a professional skateboarder, granted you weren't at, you know, number one for the rest of your life, but that is, there's so much joy to be had. I traveled the world getting paid to be a skateboarder. Yeah. He was in the dream.

Yeah. He was equally living the dream. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Hey, nothing was bad. Can I tell you something? Can I tell you, I have a question. I have, I have a genuine question.

What are your thoughts on people who say they skate, but are actual posers in real life? Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Or I'll stop for a second or stop for a second. All right. And just, just push pause. Who carries skateboard around. Okay. Just stop for a second. That's an attack on me. I was going to say that seems a very pointed question, but you own a skate show.

It's oddly specific. Okay. So, wait, I, I used to live in Silver Lake and me and my friend opened up a skate store called Juvie in Silver Lake, right? And I, my best friend at the time was a guy named Laban Phideas. You know who he is? Right. So Laban, you know, was a skater for Dogtown and he, for a couple of years.

And a prolific juggler. He's one of the best jugglers and he can do that little, you know, he's a freaky white dude where he can do all that. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, look, you know how freaky white dudes can do all that with the fire?

He performed, he performed at Riley's birthday party, like his third or fourth birthday party. No. Yeah. Cause I mean, I didn't have money to get animals and whatnot or experiences. And so he came and juggled and people were hyped. Oh, he's good. He's that good, babe?

What's that? I still live with him. Yeah. With Laban in Silver Lake? No, in Encinatus. Oh, really? Back in the day when, when he was just a pro skateboarder. I love him.

And he would, he taught me how to juggle. Wow. Yeah. He would fucking do it all day with guys of all time. Yeah. I think that guy, right? What? He's one of the greatest guys of all time, I think.

Fucking talent. Okay. So you try to teach me how to do it, right? Wow. I would juggling or allying. What's going on? Fucking. You know what?

I'll be fucking rude, Tony. It looks like the horse was trying to buck him up. It's fucking. Oh, you guys went in Roman mechanical bulls. I get it now. Yeah. And juggled at the same time. All right.

I should have demonstrated it. But basically what I'm trying to do is lift. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And go, don't do that again. I'm going to do the demonstration. Don't do a hi-ha or anything like that, please.

All right? So here I go. I do a... Do it again, Jason. Do it again, Jason. Yeah. All right. So yeah.

And I just couldn't do it. I never learned how. Yeah. Back to the story about the shot. We can help you. Your skateboarding skills, though. What? I got a skateboard in the car.

We can get you there. We can get you there. There is no way. You could allie right now. I can definitely get you to allie. Yeah. You can teach me how to allie. In five minutes.

Yes. There's no way you can't. Guaranteed. Guaranteed video of you doing an allie, the board's in the air, and you land it back on the board. Guaranteed. There's your footwear there. Let me show you, okay?

All right. Okay, show us. Let me see if I can take a photo. I'm sorry. This is perfect. Oh, my God. We need it. It doesn't work without a skateboard.

Let's see how bad it is. That's not bad. It's slow. It's slow. You're going to get a pop. Yeah. There's a snap. Yes.

That's it. Yeah. And he looked at us while he was doing it. Yeah. That's how easy he could do it. Eye contact. You have no under... That hurts so fucking bad.

Unwear. There's everywhere. My ankles, two knee joints. There's no way I'm going to learn. Oh. I'm old. I'm 50 now. I'm 50.

We just got your timing better. You're right. You're right. I did learn. I did grow a little bit. You're no longer a poser, sweetie. Congratulations. No.

You know what? You called me out. Hold on. Leave it out there. Leave it out there. You called me out, right? But since I love you. And since I love you.

And since we're lovers. Put it here. Put it here. Sorry, man. Yeah, but I never... I've never reckoned so I'm my wife like that. I know. Put it here.

I'm not going to do that. Well, I love you. And we were lovers. And put it here. Okay, pal. You probably also never... I'll see you tonight. You probably also never lied to her about being a good skater.

Wait, you said you were good? Yes, when we first met. How good did you say you were? Skateboards all over his home. Oh. Oh, you were like, claiming. Yes. You can't do it, Ollie.

Put it here. You started it, Bobby. You started it. I understand that. But can I just say, but does this count? Wow. I know personally, probably a hundred pro skaters. Just listen to it.

Here, Mike. Let me just defend myself, all right? Here's the argument. Including news, as I can tell. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And I also have...

I grew up in San Diego, so I grew up in the environment of it. Right? Yeah. And so I understand the culture. I understand the sport. Like, I understand the history of it. You're obsessed with it. Yeah.

I'm obsessed. You know I'm obsessed with it, right? Yeah, I'm obsessed with it. His brother is also a great skater. My brother can Ollie and quick flip, heel flip. He can do a pop shove and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I don't know how. But anyway, let's move on, okay?

I don't want to talk about it anymore. And I am a fucking poser. You know what? I'm not... You don't want to fuck it. I'm a poser. I'm a loser and I'm a poser. Can you roll on one?

Can you roll down the road on a skateboard? I was just trying to... I'm trying to lead you into a good thing here. If you can, then you can skate. Hey, fucktard. What? I never had anybody... Yeah, fucktard.

That small say that. It doesn't feel good, does it? It doesn't feel good, does it? It doesn't feel good. You're coming across crazy stuff right here. I'm sorry. You're right. I never had anyone say that they couldn't back it up.

Yeah, you're right. I can't back up. I'm my bad. I was too aggressive. But can I just say that? Let's calm down. Let's get back to... Let's not forget he also fights MMA.

I get it. Let's just go back to... You know, let's go back a little bit. And I want to say the reason why I called you that was because I felt like earlier I was trying to make you feel better about your life and whatnot. I said, oh, but no, just listen to what I'm saying. All right. And I was unnecessarily...

And I was like, we're about all this stuff, like you're there with the other Canadian. So you belong... I was trying to do all that. And then you did that. And then you showed your vulnerability. That's right. He didn't back me up. And he did not back me up on...

Thank you so much, Tony. What the fuck? I understand what he's saying. I don't think it deserved fucktard, but I understand. I think fucktard was too harsh. I think... Yeah. I apologize.

I did it twice. I apologize. Can we forget that? That incident ever happened? Yeah. All right. And can we move on? Yeah.

Thank you. Let me... Let's just... Let's just... I want to take a little temperature of the room. We should roll down the hill together. We have great hills here. Bro.

Hates it. You know what? I am going to prove to you once and for all. I am a fucktard. I can fucking roll down a fucking hill. I'm not saying you can't. I'm asking if you want to. Yeah.

But he wasn't challenging. Oh, you're asking. Oh, I took it the wrong way. He did. You're so defensive. Oh, I was so... I took it the wrong way. You were asking...

This is what you were doing. You were going, hey, Bob, why don't we roll down the hill together? Yeah, you don't need to... That's not what I heard. What I heard was, I bet you, you can't fucking roll down the hill. Right? So I apologize. It might have been a bit of a...

It was a little too... A step too far. And let's read the temperature of the room. Let me ask you two, okay? Because you don't know me that well. All right? From 1 to 10, how much do you like me? I like you a lot.

I know. 1 to 10, how much... So far, so far, so far. I think that they're an accidental likable genius. Because you're kind of mean to people, and you kind of backstab and say things that are mean and inappropriate, but you're like, you got cuddly angle, where it's like... If you get caught... Cuddly angle.

You didn't really mean it anyway, even though you kind of admit that you did mean it sometimes. Everybody likes it. Right down cuddly angle. Got a really good name. Okay, so... And I love it. I think it's genius. All right.

10. I'll give you a point of spread just because we don't spend that much time together. I know. So maybe I haven't seen some of that. I don't know. Out of 10, 9 out of 10. I'm going to go with 10. Okay, good.

That's great. I'm an or. My scale goes to 11. Oh, it goes to... I'll go. Yeah? I would say a 10. The only reason I'm not looking shook right now is because I'm used to hanging out with

him. Yeah. So I've dealt with gods before, you know? Okay, I'm going to tell you why I do what I do. It's like Oasis right now, both brothers. Together in one room? Say, hello, Jace. You know, it's like that.

Yeah. Like, fuck, okay. Do those guys get along now? No, still. Still not? Stupid. I saw one of them in that documentary. From Oasis?

No. We watched Oasis documentary. But recently I saw... I don't know if it was Noel or Liam, but... I don't even know their fucking names. Yeah, it's a pretty... I just know they're cute as fuck. Who was the roided guy you fought that was 300 pounds?

Shane Carwin. You fought Shane Carwin? Yeah. He had one arm and I had two arms, but I was playing and he wasn't. So I started playing around with it. At one point I had his good arm caught and I went, ha, ha. Look at that. I could punch you as much as I wanted to right now, but obviously we're playing.

And then he punched me in the back of the head and made my face go all numb and tingly. And I looked back at him. I was like, what are you fucking doing, dude? And his face was bright red and he just threw like haymakers until he knocked me out. Oh, shit. Are you guys in talking terms now? No. Well, he told me many, like a couple of years ago that...

Let's see it live. His trainer told him before he came out that Jason just got you here to knock you out and be famous on YouTube. So he's come to make you look stupid and Shane got convinced that that's what I was trying to do. So he got serious. Oh my God. See, I'm not even hitting him hard.

This is what white people look like before they were evolved. This is just when we first got really cold. We are pissed. So where is it? Shane's huge. Yeah. My corner was scared for me. Everybody was worried because he's actually really good as well on top of him.

Yeah. Didn't he famously go back? Oh my God. That's the first time. But look at him. He stood over me like he wasn't happy. He looked angry about it. And I was like, fuck.

This is not what I... I thought we were going to just... Yeah. I was going to get hurt, but not... You weren't going to be serious. That looks like a big crowd, dude. How many people are there? Like 3,000.

Killing the game. Yeah. I sold out the joint for like 10 years. Whoa. Braggar. What the fuck? That's information we didn't need to know. Good point.

No, I love you, dude. Congrats. See, that's another aspect of your life. You're doing so many fucking shit in your life. Yeah. You've traveled the world. I could say that about myself. I know.

We should be fucking in pure joy. He knows everybody. He's like from this era of like the legends of comedy where he was like in there. He knows all the shit that we wish we knew. What do you want to know, baby? Oh, Richard Pry stuff? Yeah. Big dick.

What else, bro? You're sorry? I never said that. That's such a weird thing to say. I didn't know. He knows everything. That's what happens in comedy. You end up showing each other your wainers?

I carried him once. You know, he got sick later in his life. And when I was a kid, before I got mad TV, me and my friend Freddie had to carry him a couple of times on stage. That's the amount of interaction I had with him. Did he know you? That's huge, though. Pretty cool.

That's huge. Yeah. I remember being in the back door. I say this sometimes. But in George Carlin would come in and he would always go to me, Mr. Lee, and he would just walk by. He wouldn't talk, but he always knew my, I don't want to cry, but he always knew my name.

That's it. I was fucking dope. As a kid. That's awesome. That's fucking dope. He referred to you as Mr. Yeah. Yeah.

Because the first time he ever did it, he goes, hi, I'm George, which you're now got Bobby Lee. And then every year he would just always remember, you know what I mean? That's called class, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you have a little bit of that. I'm really bad with names.

Yeah. He wouldn't say Mr. Lee. I would say, hey, my good friend. Yeah. Let me, hey, man. Yeah. Yeah. Let me stop with the joke, buddy.

What are some of the things that you would say either? You know how they have chief? Yeah. I mean, you know what? I say captain. I go, what's up captain? Is that a good one? Is that insulting?

Yeah. No. Whatever. Whatever. I cheat. I say mate. And because you go, you all think that's all we say. All right.

I get away with it. Oh, mate. How's it going? Good night. Good night. Yeah. Yeah. That works.

Guy is the worst. What's up guy? I don't like being called bud. Yeah. Because of so many repeat meetings. Oh. So now it's good to see you. Yeah.

Oh, what's up? Good to see you. That's interesting. Because good to see you. Can't work either way. Either way. That's smart. But the pal is what I hate.

Pal, yeah. Pal's not. I don't like the way you say it. I would say it to the president. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you like to meet you, Mr. Pal. Right.

I put the mister in front of it. Pal and chief. Yeah. Pal and chief. That's good. So I have to call. I don't have COVID. You're going to vomit.

I don't have COVID. I'm fine. Yeah. When you're talking about Richard Pryor, I was going to tell you, my brother, he told my parents he's taking me to the movies. And then he took me to the Richard Pryor live movie. Oh, wow. I was pretty young.

And I was excited. Wow. That must have been mind blowing. It was. I mean, I didn't understand half of it. Yeah, yeah. It was very cool. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to turn around now. I met you on mad TV, right? Yeah. I have a photo of you and me. I played. I don't remember what I was playing. We did an Anna Nicole Smith thing.

Oh, yeah. So I played that designer. What's this Bobby? Oh, yeah. Flay. What? Who? Flay, the chef?

Oh, yes. I remember the picture. Remember, she had like a fashion designer. Asian, little Asian. Yeah. Well, I don't know if it was little. Is all Asians little? No, they're grown.

Yeah. Well, you. Yeah. But you guys came, you guys came to our first rehearsals for Boom Boom Huck Jam. When we were, you guys, right in the, in the hangar. That's what it was. Yeah.

In Riverside. Yeah, that's what it was. And it was very cool for us because we were in the middle of rehearsing for the show that we didn't even know was going to, was going to work. Oh. We didn't know if it was going to buy tickets where we built these million dollar ramps set up and we're rehearsing in an airplane hangar with no, with no hope of, not hope, but we're not sure if it's going to be successful.

And you guys came with the whole Matt TV crew and we're like, well, maybe we, maybe there's something here. Yeah. They want to drive all the way out here to shoot a comedy. I remember like banking to be in it. Oh, it was super cool. Like I have my hands and he's like, Tony Hawk, I'm fucking get me there because they, they had Jackie Chan once and they left me out of the sketch and I'll never forget

them. Oh, what? Really? I never told you that story. Damn. I'm going to tell you the story. All right. Can I stand?

Yeah. It's your house. You did a response like you backed up a little bit. No. Are you fine? Yeah. Sure. I'm giving you room.

Thank you. Why am I standing? Like I said. Jackie Chan. Oh, Jackie Chan. So when I first got on Matt TV, I wrote, I heard that Jackie Chan was doing the show. And so I wrote Dick Blasucci, the executive producer, a letter and I go, dear Mr. Blasucci, I know I'm new on the show and I only play Japanese people on the show or something like

that. Right. And which I'm happy to do. Thanks for the job. But I go, you know, my idol is Jackie Chan. I know he's going to play the show and I don't even need to have a line. Just put me in the back. I'll be a tree.

I don't give a fuck. So I forgot about it. A couple of months later, I'm watching the show and I see Jackie Chan on the show with everyone on this cast except me. You didn't even know when it taped? No. Oh, that's. That was a time where you couldn't have two agents on screen, though.

Oh, is that right? At the same time? Shatter or something? Yeah. You know it was back then. But that's when I pooed on his office. The Blasucci's office? Yeah.

That's when you pooed in his office. Jackie Chan? You know, honestly, it's deserved then. I never knew why you pooed in his office. Wait, did you really? But I feel like that's well deserved. Well, I didn't poo. Oh, my God.

So Ike Barron-Holtz and Nicole Parker were writing a sketch in his office and I walked in and they go, hey, Bobby, here's a Tums and Ike goes, stick in your butthole, just as a joke. So I grabbed and I go, OK, I pulled my pants down, right, I stuck the Tums in my butthole and I bent over and these two are writing and they're looking at my butthole and my butthole is like foaming. Fizzing. You know what I mean?

Like a mad dog was going, right, right, right. And when your butthole foams like that, right, and it makes that noise, your friends watching, they laugh hysterically. Right? I like how this is a shared experience that we all know. Oh, yeah. Totally. I know.

Yeah. Every time, too. Isn't it annoying? It's annoying. So it started going, right. They're laughing and then I farted and that's with a mistake. That was bad. If you stick your Tums in your butthole and you fart, no, no, because what happened was

shit came out and it came right and all over the floor and with the foam and everything and then Dick Lassucci walked into the office, he sees the poo, my pants, you know what I mean? Is this post Jackie Chan? This is after Jackie Chan, right, and but then I said, well, you didn't put me in the jacket. That's no reason to shit on my floor. So I learned, you learn a valuable lesson.

Thank you. A trailblazer. Thank you. Thanks. Another one. Another handshake. Thank you. Have you guys ever put on anything?

You've never put on anything? Yeah. I put on stuff. Yeah. Let's dig into that. I don't want to dig into it with Tony. We don't have to. We don't have to talk about it.

Not intentionally. Yeah, no. I don't know why I told that story. Man, I was making a point. I was making a point. That was the point. Jackie Chan. Oh, Jackie Chan.

That was the reason. I met him at a sports awards show a long time ago and we both left. He was like, they did this big, long, tedious sports awards thing and it was just never ending. It was a dinner too. And then and then they had this after party that was just chaos and and we ended up both in the hotel lobby. You and Jackie.

Me and Jackie Chan. And then he recognized me and I was just so excited that we ordered a bottle of wine and shared a bottle of wine. It was awesome. Yeah. That's so fuck dude. That's a magical shit. It was really cool.

And he was he had his sort of manager, dude, partner. White dude or? No. Uh huh. Clearly, clearly they've grown up together. I think we should try and broker a similar thing for you and Jackie Chan. I feel like until you meet Jackie Chan, your life will never really be in order because you're still yearning for that.

And Dick Blasucci, you know, stole that from you. So I don't know if Tony you're maybe you can listen, listen, listen, Jackie Chan, listen, this is back in the day when I didn't know anybody. Jackie Chan is also my idol, so get it going. Okay, I'll get it going. Well, just say that, man. Yeah. Yeah.

I can't say I got his contact info, but we had a fun time to have his fucking number. But when you're when you're in those situations in your head, are you going like, how do you enjoy it? Do you enjoy it? Or are you kind of freaking out? Both. Yeah. But, you know, you don't want to turn into the Chris Farley superfan.

Remember? That was cool. So it's hard not to do that. Yeah. So it's more just trying to have normal conversations, but he ended up going into this crazy story about when he got a skull fracture or something. He got some crazy, really life-threatening injury. I can't remember what, jumping off a moving thing, missed the target.

I don't know. He heard his skull. Yeah. And there was a piece of a skull that was that was like pointing inward. So it was, it was putting him at risk. It was, it sounded crazy. Like it sounded definitely near death. And he's telling it like excitedly and, and his friend who speaks nothing there to understand

what he's saying. And he's like, and then he's there and he's crying. The guy's like, yeah, thought you were dying. And I'm just in the middle of this awkward conversation, like between him and his super homie. Like, wow. Well, that's, that sounds scary. Super homie.

That's fucking amazing. Yeah, do you, this is a stupid question, but do you know you're Tony Hawk or, you know how like, no, no, just what I'm saying that is, is that I'll run into people, because I have some fans. I'm not as big as you, but like I have some fans, right? And they treat me in a way where it's like, oh no, I'm just, you know what I mean? I'm kind of a loser. Like I have that mentality, you know what I mean?

How do you live in that world? I don't know. I think I've sort of let it go. I can't be bigger than life. And so I'm just, I'm just me and just going about my day, like taking my daughter to school and going grocery shopping and trying to skate in between. And it's, it's, it's pretty normal when I go traveling. Yes.

It's sometimes a little on the, I don't know, fabulous side, so to speak. And so this is Calvin. Hi, Calvin. Calvin, come on in. These are my step sons who are both in college and LA. Thank you so much for coming. Hi, Calvin. I'm Calyla.

Are you guys brothers? Yes. Yeah. Is it right here next to me, Calvin? I punched both of them in the face the other day. Did you? No, you didn't. Yeah, I did.

This is true. You punched them back? You did, yeah. But he did it lightly or? Bare knuckle. No, what? No. You're an asshole, Jake.

I thought maybe you were like punishing them for something. Well, sometimes I don't like the way they look at me and yeah, I will punch a child. You know me? No. It was boxing. They're into MMA and they wanted to. Oh, I love MMA, bro. You're more into MMA?

He texted me, do you think Ellis would train with me and Calvin? And I said, I'm sure he would love to. Wow. Which really meant you want to fight me because that's really what it ended up being. Keep it easy on your brother and don't go too hard and he comes after me. Well, can I defend myself for a second? Yes, I came after you for a few seconds, but because your gloves scratch my face and then in the middle of the round, you started bragging about scratching my face and get fucking whipped

for that shit. You're the fucking adult in this situation. Yeah, there's lessons that need to be learned in boxing. You don't fucking, you don't stop him in the middle of a round and you don't fucking brag about cutting someone in the middle of the round unless you're ready for a fucking war. And that's what's up. But yeah, his mouth was bleeding and I'm watching, I'm next to their mom at home watching this in real time as she's seeing on social media.

Was she freaking out? I'm scared of her. A little bit. Yeah, I feel bad about it. Yeah, you should be scared of her. When did Tony enter you guys' lives? I was about seven, my mouth was 12 or 13, and I was like, 11. 11.

Did you guys know who he was at the time? We grew up. Yeah, we knew, but our kids. Oh, they all grew up. Yeah, you guys know each other. I see. Actually, my son, Keegan, would be here, but he would think he's had, he's had, he would think he has COVID because he's so sick, so you wouldn't want him in.

Oh, what happened? He came home from college two days ago and has just been stuck in bed ever since and sick or sick. I took him to the hospital for the urgent care yesterday. Shit. Can I ask you, I want to ask you before, I forget, how did you think the Olympics went? Um, I thought it was, uh, I thought it was good. I thought, I thought it was great exposure.

I think that the format for street is, um, not the greatest for the general spectator, the non skating spectator, even for skating spectators, like it's just too technical and there's too much bailing going on. Yeah. And it doesn't highlight what those skaters are capable of when they can make stuff. So I feel like that, that was a mistake. Can I ask you this like, cause I watched some of those same skaters in street league, right? Be more consistent and stuff.

I felt like there was a different kind of pressure and also being outside. Sure. There, there was that, there was that element. Yeah. But at the same time, they put so much emphasis on these, on these trick attempts. And so those guys are just trying their absolute hardest difficulty tricks that it's, it's more likely they're going to miss. And that doesn't translate well to home audience, but then when they got, when they do their

runs, that is a little bit more easy to digest. Right. But then the park event, I thought went off really well because it was the kind of skating that non skaters at home came to expect where it's, it's high flying and they're going fast and they're doing aerials and spins and it's the kind of thing that they are used to seeing on X games. So that was a little bit more what I think that probably was a highlight for people who don't skate, especially internationally, because now there is much more interest in skateboarding

in places where they didn't have parks. Wow. Skateboarding in the Olympics was oddly emotional for me because there's a, there's a girl who is from my island in the Philippines. Her name is Marjelyn. I love her. She's the best. That's great.

And we've never had anybody in the Olympics from my island like ever. So like, I remember you and I were like, She was a highlight. The energy is, she was so excited to be there. I mean, she, I think she got an Olympic tattoo like the week before. Yeah. Yeah. Like she was so, so great.

I remember feeling like my eyes welling up, like my heart was bursting with so much pride. Yeah. I look, I get that way when I see women in general because you look at, um, Risa, Leal, right? What is she like? Two years old? I mean, she's fucking amazing, right? And now she's just cleaning up.

Yeah. I mean, she got, what she got? Third, the Olympics? Yeah. She got third. Now she's winning every street ligament. Oh my God. She's, I just get tingled.

She's probably the number one sports star in Brazil right now. Wow. Another more tip. Look at the Goosebumps. For real. I mean, for real, like she is, she's, and she's all over social media. She's getting invited to every single event. It's like all VIP stuff.

It's amazing. That's fucking amazing. I also like the way Japan is coming up, like their females are killing it. Yeah. One, two, right? Yeah. You too. Yeah.

Uto is killing it. I mean, there's other, other ones. We talk about Jinwoo, that kid, you know what I mean? I mean, it's just skateboarding is just getting more global, more technical, just more talent. And I feel that at UFC too, it's like, we always talk about like, if Kumara Usman fought somebody that fought in the original UFC, Kumara Usman would murder them in 10 seconds. It just evolves, right? And I feel the same way about skateboarding.

What am I being too? Am I being too kiss-ass-y? No, you were talking about kiss-ass-y. I feel like I'm being too kiss-ass-y with Tony because he's here. I wasn't in the Olympics. He said all the other people. I was there. I do.

I do. I had the privilege of being the first one on the park course. That was pretty cool. I saw that. Um, and I didn't ask permission. So, you know, I felt like a true skater in that sense. Wait, wait. So you started doing it and then who's the poor fuck?

I had, I had the most difficult time getting my skateboard in that venue. I was stalled at the security for at least 45 minutes. Oh. They don't know you're Tony Hawk? It didn't matter. They, well, what I didn't understand was I didn't have someone there to translate for me. So they kept looking at the board like there was a problem with it.

Not because it was a skateboard, just like, what? And so I just like, no, dude, it's just, it's mine and I'm professional. And so I had to say that I was going to, I was shooting a segment for an NBC show, different show, but I need my skateboard for it. And so they just kept going, no, no, no, no. And then finally someone figured out that they don't like the stickers on your board. You can't have, you can't have sponsor stickers on your board. And so when I figured that out, I was like, you guys, and I just peeled them off and they

go, oh yeah. Go, go, go. Oh, what? What? Yeah. And so then when I got in the venue, it was pretty obvious that we didn't have permission to skate because the park course hadn't been open yet. Oh.

It was just there at first, but it's just there open. No one's on it and everyone's skating the street. So I just looked around and dropped in. And how long did you get with the course? I got scared for a while. Oh, cool, man. Well, because then someone from NBC was like, hey, Tony's on the course, film him. So then it was sort of permission by default.

Yeah. I saw that online. I did follow a couple of guys around the girls too, around the street course, like getting follow cam. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what I saw too. I saw that too.

Yeah. That's fucking bullshit, man. Is that fucking bullshit? Who's the fuck face that's come up to him and tell him to leave? It was the announcer. He was kind of anonymous, but at the same time, he said, I have just been told by the 40s. Really? Uncomfortable.

Tony Hawk, please get off the street course. That's amazing. That's fucking. I knew I was on borrowed time anyway. I mean, I'm there like, I'm there literally before the whole event starts. I'm chasing people around during their practice runs. Yeah. They were down for it, but at the same time, it was pretty obnoxious that I was doing that.

Yeah. Does it feel weird being like that? Like one sport, you being the figure of it, I mean, I don't, yes and no, I mean, I'm happy to represent it. Yeah. Authentically, I'm happy to represent it in the best way that I can. I know that I, you know, I'm an older vert skater from the 80s, so I can't speak to the experience of what it's like to be a kid skater now, but at the same time, I've seen how far

it's come and I want to promote it in the best light possible and be inclusive and to raise awareness for it. So I, you know, with great power comes great responsibility, so I'm happy, I'm happy to do it, but at the same time, yeah, it's weird, but then I find myself in those situations and I'm like, this is pretty cool. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like I, I'm following like Shane O'Neill and Raysa. Wow.

While they are practicing before they're about to compete and I'm getting it on my phone, my camera. Wow. I represent all fat Korean comedians. Are there a lot? Five? Are they all happy? You better represent them authentically.

I do. I do. I do. So you guys, what's your podcast called? So we want to promote it. Oh, Oak versus Wolf. Hawk. Hawk.

You say... Hawk. I don't make no sense. Oh, mate. Fuckin' mom's a dingo. No one gets it. I'd say it, but you ate my baby. Hawk versus Wolf.

Wait, we have a skateboard? Yes. That's amazing. I know that. Yeah. What happened? That YouTube channel. That is a YouTube channel right there.

Oh. Spotify, YouTube, all the fucking shit. All the platforms. At the end of our podcast, we do a thing called Unhelpful Advice. Wait, I want to ask you something, one more thing. Can you train me legitimately to fight him? Please, charity event. I think he has me on the wrestling for sure.

He's 50. Do you want me to? I'm an ex-athlete. I was an ex-Division 1 swimmer. Yeah. So I have the tenacity, and I have the discipline. Oh, I've heard the show. I know you.

Okay. And I know him. And I'm not doing it unless he really wants me to do it. And I'm going to tell you by those eyes. No, thank you. I would love to, but I can't. And that's loyalty that bought you my love. Right now, you're fucked, Gillis.

Let me say something. You're definitely locked out. If you ever even lock eyes with me, I'm going to bash you over the head with a fucking bat. Fuckface. You don't fuck with my friend. You think you're funny? This is pure comedy right here, dog. Pure comedy.

Pure comedy from the Australia. From the Australia land. If you want to beat up another girl, I can arrange out at my comedy boxing events. I have no desire at all to beat up anyone but him. Bobby. What is that? I mean, now I definitely don't want to beat him. That's such bullshit.

You want to beat him? Well, here's the thing. He is so, he's a non-affectionate man. But his only... He won't give you the hugs, so now you want to bash him for it? Right, here's why. His only currency of affection is if he comes in and wrestles me. And I've put him in some successful...

True. I've choked him out. Oh, he wins the wrestling, you're saying? I've choked him out successfully before. But who wins the most? I win the most. No, no, no. So, I want...

This isn't even like... I know what the fuck you're doing. I'll fight you right now. It would not fight right now. Okay, let's not fight right now. Listen. She wants to do it. You train her.

Yeah. We'll set a date. You can't get fit though. No, we'll get busy. We'll get busy to train you. Oh, I'm going to get busy going to train me. You have this guy to show up. He's going to go to busy one time and never come back again.

Okay, good, good, good. Oh, really? Yes, really. You're right. In fact, I'm never going to see him in the first time. Probably a good idea. Yeah, I mean, I have this number I will never call him. You're going to rather lose to her than get trained by Bisbee.

He's going to fucking thrill you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true, right? Yeah. All right. I won't train. Yeah. I'll fight you.

So your podcast... Do you guys have guests and stuff or what? No, we just fight each other. I'm like undefeated right now. I'm doing really well. I feel like you got a glimpse of how our podcast goes. You know, we will be talking about stuff in our daily lives and then a story will come like Jackie Chan organically.

And we've had between us a lot of crazy experiences through our careers and our lives. And so we tell a lot of stories, but then we do have guests. We recently had Christian Ossoi. Oh. We had Jack Black. Oh. What? Lizzie Romanto.

Oh. Huh? We got to get you. Yeah. He won't do it. Are you fucking... Would you do it? Bro, bro.

He's getting up again. He's gonna ollie. He's gonna ollie. Don't get up. Don't get up. What? Talking to the mic. I'm sorry.

I won't get up again. I'm so sorry. Why am I apologizing to you? Yeah. You just got here, man. I want to say that, you know, I'm a blessed guy and I get the opportunity to interview people on my show, our show, I mean, you know what I mean, that I'm fans of, right? I've had the privilege of, you know, interviewing really cool people, but this is one of the

coolest and I think you're a cool guy and I'm there. The way, you know, this is the honest truth and I don't mean to kiss your ass, but this felt like two New York comics coming on our podcast. Oh. That's what it felt like. The flow, you guys laughing, in sync, knowing when to talk, that's something that... Professional. Professional.

I know that our fans are going to listen to your show. I appreciate it. I want to tell you, if you are coming, like literally come on our show physically. We do it at my ramp. And yeah, here it comes. Do it at my ramp in San Diego. I know, I know it seems like a world away when you're up here, but I drove up here today for this.

But I just think, when you live in San Diego, people are like, oh, it's San Diego, I'm like, I came here for lunch, what are you talking about? It's not that far. I went to Palomar College. All right. And Poway. And Poway is deep. I live in Encinitas.

I know where it is. We've got pads. So, what I'm saying is, get to our studio and we'll teach you how to Ollie. You should both come and bring gloves and mouthguards and you guys can fight and skate in one day. And we'll skate for you. We'll skate my ramp. Yeah.

And you will love me skating, but I mean, you will love me skateboarding. You were on my ramp before he was. You don't know. You don't know what I had. Fuck you, man. I hit the ramp before you. Fuck face. I just realized he was on the hutching ramp before you were.

Way before the hutching ramp, man. Fuck you, man. Fuck you. Because you went there. Yeah. That is harsh. You know what? It is.

Like, what happened? When you skated with him yet? Yes. Bullshit eyes. Fuck you. You don't even. You can't even go. When you go to bed tonight, when you go to bed tonight, I want you to think of two initials.

I can do 360. Ft. I can only over you. I can only over you. You could all be over me. Guess what? That's not that high. All right.

I feel like you're freaking me. Sorry. I don't know what we're doing. I like. Why are we doing this? How much do you want to train me now? I'm sorry, I brought that. I know.

Right. No. That got out of hand, man. I know. But I will. Listen, I think you're a lovely tender soul. And I'm sorry for getting you all crazy. Sorry if it's open too much.

Wait, but are you coming down? Yes. 100%. You're fucking mine. Aren't you there in like a week? Why? I thought Santino and you and the whole gang were doing something. Are we?

Yeah. He's great, too. Listen, next weekend. Yeah, but we're not. They don't know. We have certain times when they do it. I'll schedule it. Don't worry about it.

I'm going to grab their. No, no. We just do it. We're very spontaneous. Here's what I'm going to do. He's loud. If you don't mind, is there any way to get either one of your information? Right?

Yeah. And then we're going to via text each other. We'll arrange a time like normal people do. And I will get in my motor vehicle. I'll fucking drive down. What about this? If you agree. Fucking guy, man.

This fucking guy. If you don't. Because he has a way bigger social media. He'll post, man, too bad. Bobby didn't come down. Turns out he was shit. Oh my God. My God.

It's like. You're just sold out in my. Right. Right. Right. You know what, dude? All right. He's mine.

He's all now. Oh. Do the one hopeful. We do a little segment of. What? That's the transition. Yeah. We do a little of kidding.

Are you kidding me, dude? I would fucking do it in a heartbeat. All right. I'll see you soon. Yeah. I mean, we want to have you on the show, but bring Santino because he's a skate fan. No. That fucked up.

He's not. He really isn't though. Tony likes you more. Just know that. Ooh. Maybe Santino another day. Do you know Santino? I did a show.

You did whiskey ginger? Yes. I did. Like three years ago. Three years before mine. I want to say to you, Tony, too. And I bet your money that Santino isn't even remotely as big of a fan as I am. I could rattle off.

All right. Don't invite him. I know. Fuck you. Fuck you. I could rattle off so much shit right now. Information. Yeah.

Right. I was trying to make it easy because you were all going to be there. This is my point. I'm not. I'm going to go. No favorites as a mirror. I want to come down and experience some experience it on my lonesome favorite nations. Okay.

All right, boys. No, we say favorite nations. No, there's no favorites. At the end of our podcast, we do a thing called unhelpful advice. People email us problems and we try to answer it or not. If you guys want to get involved, you can kids. Okay. I like you guys, man.

You have good energies. Unhelpful advice with Tony Hawk and Jason Ellis. Hi, guys. I'm 18 years old and I'm from Indianapolis. I've been doing standup for about a year now and I've gotten a relatively successful in my hometown. I spent every day since I graduated high school working construction to be able to afford to move to LA.

Now I'm here. My three closest friends drove to LA with me and flew back three days ago. I am now alone in my studio apartment. No family. No friends. Nobody. I'm extremely homestick. I spent the last year dreaming about this, but now I'm here.

It takes me all the power not to cry. I can't stop thinking about family and friends and how much I missed them. I feel a call in a standup, but it's extremely hard to get my motivation where it needs to be when I feel weighted best of sadness on my chest. How do you guys get over homesickness? And at some point when you guys moved away from your hometown, how did you feel? Pussy. Unhelpful advice.

Sorry. It's unhelpful. It's unhelpful advice. Pussy. Well, I didn't. I'm kidding. I moved away from my hometown, but I just, I got to just get out there, get out there and start living.

Everybody has to have a sad story. I tell you, you got there, your trials and tribulations and you got fired and you didn't get it and it didn't happen. And they shut it down your face and you almost had it. And then I kept trying. And then that's, look at me. I'm a fucking star. Whatever that is.

Yeah. There's a little bit of pain in everything that you do like when it comes to stuff like this. And he's just going through the pain part of it, which is the struggling, which is so fucking hard. Struggling it at home is hard as well. It's struggling anywhere. Right.

Crying is good for you. Go ahead, cry. But you got to give it a, like, I think it's more that you're, you're here, you got to give it a shot. Yeah. Don't just wallow in sad that, oh, I wish I go home and then go home and then you never even tried. You got to try.

You should be hitting up five mics a day. Yeah. Yeah. Hustle. Hustle. Yeah. You have to hustle and I tell young comics all the time, I go, you're not going to believe it because everyone told me I was never going to do anything.

It just happens. If you commit to it, you grow, just become the funniest person you can become and it will happen. This guy, I know. Look at that. Move to LA. Just do it. No, move to California when you were 16, 17.

Oh, wow. Yeah. It turns, yeah, the day I was legally allowed to go. With how much money in your pocket? 50 bucks. Mike, how would you... From Australia. What'd you do?

I slept in a kid's playground for a couple of days and then I went to a contest where I was, after the contest, I was walking down the street and a bunch of dudes in a van, one of them was a pro skater. We were like, hey man, where are you going? I was like, nowhere. You want to come hang out with us and one of them was a pro skateboarder. I ended up living at his house for like five months until my athlete visa ran out and then went back to Australia and then came back three times because back then you could have a athlete

visa and just stay and you had to have proof of $1,000 a month. My dad gave me a credit card to snap through customs. So I'd go through customs and say, here's my money. And then my father promised me to snap the credit card because he knew that I'm not allowed to have a credit card. It has a good idea. Yeah. It's one of the things I took from him.

Yeah, and then I think three years later, then I got a paycheck like 600 bucks a month from Element and that rest is history. Wow. Yeah. You took a big risk. Well, no, because I was an uneducated moron. I was going to definitely be nothing. So it was be nothing or be a pro skateboarder.

Yeah, but I mean, talk about homesick. Yeah. That's what I was going to say with the homesick. I remember those days. I remember the five month mark and this is before smartphones. I hadn't seen anybody. I hadn't heard anybody's voice. And I didn't give a fuck.

I only cared about skateboarding. Yeah. That's what you have to have. That's what you have to have. Obsessed with one thing. Obsessed. Yeah. I'm obsessed with one thing.

Yeah. And it's the only thing I've thought about pretty much in the last 30 years of my life is that one thing. And it's like, I think it's true if you immerse yourself in that one thing. Also, it's like, you have to be good at what you do, right? Yeah, but you can get good from the passion of wanting to be good. Well, some people can't. Really?

Was that the tough break? Well, no, no. That was the unhelpful advice. I get it. I get it. I get it though. I know it sounds negative, but what I'm saying is that you have to try what we're saying, right?

But eventually, you have to have an ear and go, yeah, I don't have it, right? And then leave. Okay. Now, you might be right. Like they might have been skateboarders back in the day, Tony, that were with you skating. After 15 years, you were Tony Hawk and they were still, you know, like scratching up some grinds in the bone. You're like, wow, he doesn't have it.

Did that happen? Sure. But I think that they realized it at some point, maybe sometimes too late and went into something else. But we're still in the industry. A lot of people. This is interesting. So, Tony, because there's a lot of comics, right, that I know that should never have

done it in the first place and they've spent 10, 15 years doing it. So they open a skate shop? No. No, no. But what I'm saying is that it comes to a point where you have, do you tell the comics and go, listen, you don't have it, just, you just do something else? Or do you just let them ride this out for 50 years? Does it bring them joy?

Yeah. I mean, if they're enjoying it, what are you going to do? Yeah, it's not your place. That's true. I mean, if you're that bad, they don't have you come back, right? You're right. Yeah. What?

If you're really bad, you don't get a regular gig, right? That's true. But because they're still doing it, doesn't mean they don't have some form of like self-assessment, but are choosing to do it anyway because it brings them joy. They're like, all right, I'll never get there. Because that's how I skateboard now. Like, I'm nowhere near as good as I used to be. I gave it up to spend 15 years in LA trying to be a radio host.

And now when I skateboard, it's not, it's not what it used to be. It's way harder work. It's way more dangerous, but it's more fun to me now than it was when I was good because I don't answer to anybody. If you don't get a photo of it, I don't think I need to say it. I don't care. Yeah. Just doing it, you know?

That's the thing. Just do it. Okay. Tell him that. Do it. Oh, he's hearing it? Sure. You don't.

You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't.

You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You're Memorial Day when you guys were coming up, but I, you know, five minutes in, my nervousness went away. And I'm so sorry for being late.

My dog has hives. Yeah. And he's vomiting, so. Yeah, we had a problem. All right. He's on his way to the vet right now. He's in the freezer. He don't.

Yeah. That was a good duck. We'll eat him later. But I'm just kidding. Just a joke, guys. We don't do that. We love animals in this house and we're very pro. I like his...

I mean, don't think about his face. You know? we're like a cool face man all right let's move on no he kind of looks like a president like when you get older you could be a president yeah all right fine yes you could be other things as well let's move on all right i was trying to give you a compliment so tony and um jason i remember guy he's a tony and guy tony and pal tony and pal i thought we were doing that i thought i might have been made like an impression at one point

get the fuck out of here the tony and i knew i shouldn't have come just just interviewing yeah i didn't do the 900 i i never will i could fix it you're shameful it's all right it's all right i could definitely get a training though for sure look at me look at me right now no i can't it's disgusting that's a deep korean vowel it makes it bad don't touch my foot stop touching my toe that shit is weird it's weird i'm not sure what's happening right now you know i'm half a gay guy forgive him i forgive you yeah if not he'll cut his ponytail off and harry care he has great hair is that real thank you jason wow thanks uh okay bobby yeah yeah that's all i think your name is isn't it um i loved that today his yeah didn't you love it

i loved it today they have really good thank you so much for driving up yeah i swear to god i am gonna if i get invited i'll do it yeah okay hell yeah i'm gonna learn to ollie maybe maybe kickflip one day you know how to kickflip these guys are good these guys are good are you guys good yeah wow why don't you try it after this can you can you um those vert ramps that he does can you drop in yep man it's so hard you could do it i don't i can't drop in one of those are you are you're fucking minded yes a pool i would break my head but i have a helmet on it and it will be fine could i have knee pads and elbow all the fucking gear i would give you all the gear we got you yeah yeah okay we could get him a foam pad in case it doesn't work out so he

hits the foam pad on the way down bullshit you're making anyway you don't need that shit you roll away so easy fucking slo-mo son just go and fuck the world slo-mo son yeah bro yeah man or that again yeah bro shaka shaka bro shaka shaka to you bro tony jj yes that's better thank you my old friend my old friend jj my old friend jj we served two roo or wars together really good to see you give them a round of applause guys that was amazing thank you thank you so much that was so fun guy Hey Prime members, you can listen to Tiger Barely Ad-Free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today.

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