TigerBelly - Ep 385: Dr. Drew & The Problem

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

David Drew Pinsky, commonly known as Dr. Drew, is an American media personality, internist, and addiction medicine specialist. He returns to TigerBelly for the 2nd time!Bobby is Fart Burglar. Dr. Drew is Lieutenant Governor. We talk Pacman hands, Asian Beef, Special Forces, and the Twinkie defense.Learn how to produce podcasts with 7exquis. Click Here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening ad-free on Wondery Plus Don't be nervous doctor because I have valid doctor questions good valid so um as opposed to in Valley Yeah, so those of us. I'm sick, which I am right now. You got a cold. Yeah, I have a cold and I'm sucking a man's penis Let's say that say you had said cold and you were giving oral sex oral sex to a man He was wearing a mask. Yeah, actually double masked right double masked what white double mask double protected What that doesn't work? No, okay. Why don't I'm well-fitting in 95? All right. We have a here's a one well fine fine All right one fitted l95 and 95 and 95 and 95. Is there an L? Not that I can think you should come up with one. Yeah a cheaper version. Yeah. Yeah anyway, can that person?

They're not gay by the way. Oh, of course in the scenario. Yeah, of course You wouldn't suck a gay man's dick. That's gay though. That would be gay. No I mean, it's no what it is. It's a initiation to a fraternity. I see I see we'll just call it that You know how they do that in the fraternity hyper mail. Yeah. Yeah, he's super male Yeah, the hyper mail super super alpha males Right, and so you can't get sick that way You have to be have a lot of circulating virus, right? That's if he ejaculates in your mouth Whoa, whoa, whoa. Do we do that in our fraternity or what? Yeah, I mean, that's part of the initiation

That's right. You did that if there's no you did it, right? If there's no calm There's no right. I don't want to know. Yeah, we all did it for the fraternity. Yeah So, yeah, okay. So there's got to be a lot of the Bobby leave fraternity with him. Yeah, see Malia. Yeah, so Yeah, I Most upper respiratory infections are in the upper respiratory tract where all the virus is concentrated So it's like we know coronavirus boom. It's aerosol is right. Yeah, that's mostly how so if but when it comes to Your hands like this you secretions right kind of virus and your face your nose your Mouths you touch your face and then you touch something else. Somebody else touches it. That's the way you get it, too

Ah, yeah, so even if the poor guy has a cut on his penis, you know, I mean, it's not gonna Again, I mean, all right upper right. You suck at penis with a cut on it. Jesus. I'm getting well I mean, he's an athlete right He does that Fencing. Ah, well that makes yeah, he's a fencing guy. He's the captain of the our fencing team for our fucking. Yeah Let's go see Malia Malia. Anyway, um, that's interesting. You guys are too quick for me It's age still thing

Yeah, there is such a thing called AIDS It's I know, but is it like is it like because remember the 80s was like this thing Can I be honest? You're asking a lot of questions like hey if I hypothetically saw you guys penis. Oh, no What happened this weekend? Don't worry. Don't worry nothing. I know very well We're waiting for collider. I have real I have a friend who asked me if AIDS are so real No, I know it's real, but I'm just saying is like before it was a death sentence. Yeah, and now it's like oh I can You know business I can own a movie theater and like, you know me I did I like back at your job magic Justin

No, I produced a great reality show back when people were just starting to live it. He said screw her We're not waiting for just you know, no We're just talking while you're right and you don't want to know it. We I did a great reality show called I'm positive. It was a great show about live with AIDS. Oh, that's cool. Great. How long did it last one episode? Why because there wasn't enough craziness, I guess, you know, all right Well, you gotta you got to film the parts when they got the AIDS Right The AIDS I mean he wants is the actual act that led well you know how about this?

Why don't you just act it out like you kind of pre like the black and white act? No, like you act it out You'd like cartoons like you guys the recreation the recreation is Like a murder recreation. Yeah. Yeah motor. Did you do that in it? Yeah, that's why we you know how about this you do the ones I'm positive the famous I'm positive Yeah, another way reality I'm a celebrity I'm positive. Yeah, that's better right magic on the who else has it God damn it. They're coming out of the uber's calling me Dr. Drew's wife called a uber for no somebody called one for her on my phone Was that old-timey famous actor that died from the HIV

Harvey milk no, no Rock Hudson he was the guy You know, so you get rock on their magic. That's all the only two I know. Oh, no, you know who has a Charlie Sheen You can do a Charlie Sheen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh wait, there's somebody else. I think it's Jvn Jvn. Is that it? Oh, yeah Oh, I think you're saying Jvc like the applying another come on. No, he's from the show queer. I he's like so it's interesting We're having this conversation by each other because I I was very involved in treatment of AIDS patients in the 80s I mean, that's a lot of what I did

And you don't know that out here, right? You she heard me tell the story that Fauci kept telling us he was my hero because he was really our sort of guiding light during HIV And he kept saying you got to go out there and educate and I had this opportunity to go on the radio And I thought okay, let's start talking about it. Nobody heard of it We were just starting to call it. We weren't even calling it HIV. I was called HTL v3 The term safe sex hadn't been coined yet. Wow. Yeah, that's incredible. Did you know Harvey milk? I did not have a Harvey milk. How did you jump to him? I don't know Harvey milk thing to like the whole cupcake defense. Yeah, like the guy who killed

Twinkie Twinkie defense The guy who killed Harvey milk his defense said that because he had been eating such a large amount of like junk and Twinkie Yeah, that he went nuts and that's why he killed Harvey milk. Well, that makes sense. No, no sugar high. No, okay, my bad Thank you. Yeah, you're looking well by the way What do you mean you look a lot better than what I've last seen you last couple times Would I looked awful before not awful, but that's a doctor. That's concerning. I can see through you Yeah, but you should say something when you know what I'm saying when you see me looking like the way I did you should say I always said something in fact. You look you don't think you look like shit. I said a

Hey, you know let's say I love you. No, you can't I get I because I respect you You're like you're like like Freeman, you know, I mean like you're like a high elevated. It's all good. Don't treat I'm not okay. Fuck good. Good. Good. So I can just I can just see it in your eyes I can just see I want I look better even though you have a cold you look I got a year last week. See that's what it is Yeah, what's up, dog? Yeah. No, I can't it's weird I can see it and I can see when you're not you remember the first time I was on last time I was on this thing I was in the old house. Yeah, and I was like, dude, you're gonna I was no, I was like you got some tune up to do I remember I made you call your old sponsor the Bindi and dude

Oh, yeah, but Native America was he Korean Korean My head I saw this shaman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was sort of like yeah Well, speaking of shaman, what are your thoughts on Bobby wanting to do ayahuasca? Oh, yeah, no Everyone's telling me to do it. It's not for you. Why you have one year right? Yeah It's not for you why you can't handle it so I can handle it you have a very special genetic Biology that we know gets activated by things and it's it's not an absolute no for you, right? But you're you you know, you don't have to touch your sponsor

You're gonna have to go maybe another year under your belt and it I'm not saying I'm not against ayahuasca It can be very helpful for some people and and I get it all all that hallucinogenic therapies I'm a fan of I just can't recommend it because we don't know the risk yet, but I have seen many addicts go out because of ketamine ayahuasca What else am I saying go out with those kind of mushrooms popular stuff and it's like okay Not intrinsically wrong with it. Yeah, you might activate that. Well, that's why I haven't done it because I know there's a new Because I've been going a lot of meetings and I'm back in it And there's a crop of younger people that have they do it behind their sponsors back because that's not recovery

Yeah, I know but they don't change their day watch what happens. Oh, is that what I haven't seen the effect yet Yeah, just watch I see and so some of them are like dude, you know, it's really cleared up my trauma like it does help trauma Yeah, and that's do you have a lot of trauma yet? I just remember you I remember you traumatized your mom But I don't remember Okay, so I'm not against it for you in a kind of categorical way. I just it's so good to see you with one year under your belt I don't want to fuck that up. That's sort of my feeling well That's my instinct and also it's like fuck it up. No No, well, I'll tell you what the instinct was it's like I can't tell my sponsor because I know what he's gonna say

All right, well then, right? So that's why I haven't done it because it's like I have to tell him We you then explore with him a little more and kind of bring it up and don't say I'm gonna do it because no I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, but it is can't I respond to you. Well, Bill W. Did it. Yeah on his way sort of out He was older than it by the way much later on and by the LSD Yeah, experimentation by the way Mrs. Bill W. Was had was the one that reported on it and she was like these guys are getting fucked up And I'm very worried. We're going back out. Oh, wow was it at the tail end of his life was he just alright? This is how I go out not the very I don't know if he did the rocker thing

You know me because by the way, I'm a huge fan of LSE for end-of-life dread Clearly that works there really ended life dread specifically yes, because what do you what's the risk? You know, what are you risking? When do you take that like really towards the end and about how do you know what the end is well we can kind of tell When Clint Eastwood Clint Eastwood die no, but is he at the end? He was 90 something. No, he just seems to keep going free. Yeah, that's true That's true. Oh, so you have to know you're about to die. You have to have a terminal prognosis Yeah, you have three months and then yeah, this is probably an existential fear that happens

Well, and then what people had the the self kind of melts in the LSD experience and people feel okay about being without us You know into something bigger than the self that's sort of the deal Oh my god, I'm gonna do that for sure that if I were dying. I'd do that too. I'll call you before if I both of us We'll do it together. Oh shit. We have to have diagnosed at the same time in the forest. Yeah, I imagine this in a forest No, why not? Let's go to that forest keep talking Before you came on Yeah, of course what sexual imprinting yeah, what a sexual imprint

What are we talking about what are we talking about what's going on a sexual when well, I'm not gay we talked about this I'm just tired when something when you've been like sexually assaulted as the kid dr. Drew was telling us that sometimes you reenact That you know role play. Yeah, dr. Drew. You know, you will I won't be a part of a traumatic reenact You know, I you know when I went to that last year when I went to the place that I won't go to the trauma place for a week They do a thing where it's like We do an activity with all the people in the in those 13 of a 12 of us and they we pick one person and they do we do we? Role play a traumatized situation with an empty chair. Yeah, well we so one guy got raped in a van and And so the counselor goes he was kind of a southern guy and he was it was very difficult for even to say

What he was saying in group and they're all right. Well, let's create the van So they we had to pick up couches to make a van was this ucb What the fuck I was ucb I am not huge right of reenactment, right and then she goes who wants to play the priest Oh, and the guy The guy chose me No, they go you pick the people so you play who's your dad? Who's your mom? Who's God wanted to someone I go I want to play God. Yeah, right. No, you're the priest

You look like the right because you're the priest. They're right. I gotta be the priest And he goes who's your 13 year old self? So he picked this white guy to be a and then we had to do the whole thing was it emotional for him It was shut down to the cathartic or to just dissociate. No, he started crying and trembling and stuff Oh, and he goes now now tell see anything. What is that? Yeah, no, but then he goes after we did it. He's like now tell your 13-year-old self. I forgive you It's not your fault. Yeah, I forgive you. I forgive you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and he's like, it's not your fault It's not your fault, right and the guy is sitting there. It's laying there going

Can we end this? So I would rather you do ayahuasca than those kinds of reenactment. So you know, then that's helpful. I mean You can do those things obviously. Yeah for some people they can be helpful, but they can be also very destructive So you have to really be careful with who you initially when he had relapse everyone was like we can also about the name when Bobby relapsed He was everyone was like, oh go to the best but when he went there I got a phone call about two days after and he was like Get me the fuck out of here. I

Begged him to call me I'm gonna stop giving you shit because I really like I give you so much shit about not calling me and not following up with me That event that's gonna make you even more not want to come to me around because I'm gonna give you shit every time Because you never call you never come around but but I have Really high quality places I can refer. Yeah, you should I should but did that place used to be good and then it has I'm um, I don't know what's going on right now But any place this thing about drug treatment any place can literally be great one month and three months later be shit So highly dependent on the staff and how lower high functioning the patients are and you know

What's sort of going on in the mix there? It's a lot goes on into that and it's that's one of the problems I what I didn't like about it was number one every morning. You'd have to wait in line and to get pills That's sort of normal. I know but it was like so many I know a lot of a lot It's very psychiatrically based. Yeah, and so you have a lot of eating disorder a lot of low-functioning a lot of cutting a lot All that kind of stuff And then there was no like one-on-one session. It was like I was just in these gigantic groups with 30 people right But taking notes in a class. I was like and be fair drug treatment really isn't a one-on-one thing, right? How much you remember one-on-one treatment the first two weeks in your tree, you know, okay?

I understand that but I also Because I had been sober for 30 years collectively. Yes in the program. Yes, you getting psycho psycho education does not make sense Yeah, I just didn't need to know about so I would argue Stay with the basics my friend, which is what just Go to a meeting every day. I know you're right. You step work I came with your sponsor, right? They just and then you know, my daughter's here sober now, too. Oh great. Congratulations. Yeah It's really fun to see it that this close and I'm of good use to her because I know this works But seeing her second year get going what I'm what I'm impressing upon her is

Great, you know, I could see in your eyes. I could see what the recovery is doing for you. I see the magic I see what's happening. Don't don't hide from your sponsor, which is your sort of move I don't know why you do that. Not anymore. Well, you just talked about doing it You just talked about you told me that Remember we talked about I was like, well, if you if you're thinking about it, why don't you talk to your sponsor? And that's why I already know what he's gonna say. That's what I've never done it. That's that is that is one shade Next step is hiding Okay, just tell right, but it's not fully hiding. Tell him he's creeping

It's like let me it's moving towards hiding. But anyway, it's like a ninja without a mask enough Oh, yeah, you know, but he's not really because he's not he can see you but I don't know let's move on You tell me if this isn't the last time you did this your two is about living a certain kind of life Yeah, I just got in it. This is the second year first week of the second year. I know simple life You making your bed. Yeah, yeah, simple, you know doing living right size. Yeah, right life. You know, do the Pac-Man thing because it's like really? It's making him uncomfortable Can you repeat that so making your bed? So that's the first year, right? Worry about the engagement the program means every day what you talked your peers

I want you to have coffee after I want you to sponsor my worker steps basic basic basic basic second year It's like hmm. There's some things in your life now Now we have to start living right size right life, right, you know a certain kind of life for that So, okay, could I say what I've done differently? Yes. Yes, you know, you know, I'm right, right? You're 100% right Okay, go ahead and never wrong, okay Repeat that. So I um I this time around I started my own meeting Nice, it's it went it's at a comedy club on a day at noon and it's like it's

20 people cool and it's like really it's making me show up there and I also bring the Literature I bring all that stuff right and I you know, I set up coffee and stuff set up the chair I was doing that man thing. I was getting ready to play and I've been that's never done that before no I know and I've been also doing something differently is I've been not keeping my mouth shut When it comes to friends of mine that are fully in their disease, and I don't say it like in a You know dismiss judgmental way I'm just saying it in a way where it's like listen I just want to let you know that I have a place if you ever want to go

It's this day you're invited and this and that and it seems to be um I Feel like I have you know some kind of purpose or whatever that's what it feels like. It's also the giving back, right? Giving back. No, but really it's it's it's it's your it's services really you laugh at it, man But it's really I'm happy. That's why I have a question by the way. She looks better, too I mean do you guys look great together? Yeah, I a lot of time was like her going he frustrates me so much What about this? What about him doing that? Why does he always do this? Together anymore, maybe that's working for you. I feel like we've gotten closer as friends. I see that yeah I have a question in regards to like Bobby's recovery and we can obviously take this out if this is like too personal to me

Yeah, about you, but like just as like from like where I stand and what I'm observing like what happens if like, okay? You are free of of the usual, you know The drugs, but then I'm kind of seeing it like morph into Maybe like sex. It's usually where it goes sex and gambling. So You talk to your sponsor very simple you stay out of it. I I know yeah, I am Normally that's what I have to do everybody like hey, it's a way stand back. Yeah, make sure you stand back stand by That's what I have I Generally stood by you be a proud boy. Okay. I think you're right. Stand by but I'm not saying don't bring it up

I'm saying like set a boundary stand back. I have step I completely like leave him to his own but Daniel sick will happen and then you know, it's so subtle how This shit can take you out with gambling and sex and porn all this stuff. It really can get you going So are you must talk to us? What about that stuff? Talked yours? I don't know what you're saying What is going on here? Oh boy. Well, can I may defend myself? You don't have to I want to go ahead I know I don't know I don't have to but me, you know, I'm not to her I'm a captain of the ship and may the captain speak. Yeah, yeah for me. I agree not for her. I agree I agree with you. I love pussy

I'm kidding. No, um Yeah, you're right. I Love it. My point is is this it's delicious Sorry Sorry, my bad. I love you Listen, um, I'm under the weather a little bit right now And I feel like I'm being cornered and I want to say this I do agree with you and I'm she brought me here Yeah, yeah, I'm very mindful. I'd like to say something first. How you brought this up to me

I didn't bring this up to you today. No when we were on a couple weeks ago. You said I think that I had a problem I know but I know but saying it on thing is, you know, yeah, yeah, we could take all this You don't have to I mean you some of this stuff was going on Long time ago too. What do you mean? You've talked to me. I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know what everyone SLA can be a really important part of recovery. I've been thinking about it and it's a very it's a kind group It's not like I say it's very easy going you go on zoom You can not turn your camera on even if you don't want and it really helps set boundaries and goals

I have other comedians involved in it. I've been asking a lot of them. Yeah, and you know about the circle plans What that it's where you you if you're gonna do a program in in SLA and SA you do a Three-circle plan you have an outer circle of things that are healthy and you'd want to do all that You know keep doing an inner circle of things that are slippery You got to be careful with talk to your sponsor about an inner circle of things. You just are not gonna do Okay, let's do that now And I'm not we shouldn't do that. Why because that's really programming. You know what I mean? That's programmatic. There needs to be a separation program in media, right? I'm separate. Okay. Yeah, well, I'm gonna try and

Let's let's do it this way. All right, what should be in your inner circle? Do you match? That's what I mean? Yeah, right so the things I'm not gonna do right for me is the stuff that's like mind-altering chemicals like no No, no, this is around sex and relationships. Oh, okay. SLA circle plan. I'm watching pornography. Okay going to sex clubs Okay, I'm going to sex parties. Mm-hmm those kind of things. Mm-hmm. That's I shouldn't do and I haven't done except for the porn Mm-hmm and the sex parties, okay? No, and so no porn and then um, sometimes that means no computer. No phone What do you mean because it's too slippery The the phone is too. It's just being right there or the or the computer So that's or somebody has to clean it up for you. They can sort of clean the well

I know how to do the history thing. No, no, I mean I mean make it so you can't get into those sites and things sort of get rid of anything Well, I mean that I mean well, that's you know, like like last night. I went to Dinner with a friend and she ordered alcohol, right? And I don't I'm not threatened by I'm not saying you have to do this I didn't want to do this. You don't have to do any of this. You're just sort of we're just sort of talking about how it's done Okay, okay. I love it. Yeah Yeah, I love it. I love it so much Okay, let's and I'm not gonna argue with the success you're having you know, I mean

You were having great success. You know, here's here's what I want to say though. Is is that? Um, I have to admit some things number one. I feel like I've never felt like this before about being sober and about the program even way back when I when I was a kid There's more of a desperation. Oh now there's desperation. I think there's more of a good realization that like, you know It's just you know, when you're when you get sober at 17 years old you you think to yourself There is that thing in the back of your head. It's like maybe was a phase. I was young But you still I can handle it. I can handle it, right? Because I've had adult experiences in

spiritual suffering and in that prison. Yeah in my mind. Um, I it's just so visceral and I Don't know. It's it's just like I like the nut the first step is really vivid in my mind You know, I mean that obviously I'm powerless over it and my life was unmanageable, you know, so um Those things have kind of is it interesting how addicts have to prove it to themselves It is so interesting. You have to prove it. You can't you can't take somebody else No, we'll take your word for it my word for it. They have to experience it

It's funny because people call me and go am I for you know, my friend a lot of comics call me you go like You know, you know the so-and-so and he's about to die and it's like, you know I know this person and it's like, you know, I've I've said things before but you know They know that they have to hit a bottom and they have to come to that conclusion on the to themselves You know, and there's a lot of people that we know that we obviously would never say the names that are on the precipice of death I mean, you can see it. You know, I mean, they're um Dying for your eyes and there's just nothing you can do and it's like and they're very talented people That's what I mean there. I don't always say there's nothing you can do the things you can try but but we know what works

Like when somebody's ready to go, it's easy. It's really kind of easy then but getting something ready But when you have a guy, right? Like for instance, there's this Monday night men's meeting that I go do and we have there's a But where's Bobby Lee? I thought he was gonna come in here. I don't know who this guy is sitting over here Where's Bobby Bobby in here? Okay, so there's a phone list, right? If you I'm on the phone list and I have it, right? And there's a couple of names on there where it's like, oh, these guys are about to die They know about this meeting because they're on the phone list, right? We and these this meeting I go to our guys with 50 years of sobriety. I mean these guys are, you know, I mean real deal

We did the real deal like, you know people that people would know these are circuit speakers, right? And if they're exposed to this kind of sobriety, they know where to go, right? And at that point, I think a lot of it has to do with like, I don't know where to go I don't know what to do. If you know if you were that guy, you know, I mean, of course you would need, you know I mean a pathway or a light or what this is a warm handshake a warm handshake, right? But these people have had all that they've been to all the rehabs. They've been told by their agents and managers I mean the list goes on. Yeah, so it's like at that point. What do you do? It's hard to watch I mean, you can do an intervention, but that you know, get people into treatment and maybe the what you hope for is you can

Get a hold of them in some way Where they can be sober long enough that their brain starts to open up a little bit and they start to be reasonable again Uber? No, it's my daughter now Pick it up Paulina? I'm on a podcast. You okay? I'm okay

Okay, we're talking about sobriety We have to put it on speaker Yeah, hold on Yeah, Bobby Lee I have a year sober last week You what? I had a year sober last Wednesday Hey look, congratulations

Thank you Yeah, I just got my year December 22 Woooo Yeah, so I feel you, I'm not the same year you had Yeah It was great, free It's better on this side Yeah, it is

Well, hopefully we'll see you at a meeting Absolutely Alright, I'll call you about now or so Okay Oh, what's wrong with the cat? Well, the house I'm sitting at is this incredible I'm probably right next to it right now Oh yeah, and

If you want to come by and see it, it's incredible And she said I can have the cat here Oh But I don't know if it's good to Nah, don't do it, I'll take care of it Okay, thank you Yeah, cats are very They need the

They need the Yeah, with her familiarity I don't want all that Thank you But her sobriety has been really a joy to be apart She's cannabis, full on And people don't, now she's Evangelical about it, because everything

In all the books, warning people It all happened to her, everything What I found with that cannabis Was My downfall For some people In my family's brain particularly Makes them really

Psychotic and depressed They just go crazy I get manic Yeah, he went through a really strange thing Where it was full blown He could not sleep for days at a time To a point where I was like I think he's using more than

Was it just cannabis at that point? And it was, because I was so It's so powerful, you don't even know the script Weirded out, I was like, no, he's on some uppers To take a drug test And it was just cannabis We keep saying just cannabis, I think people got to understand There's not, it's so powerful

What we're getting exposed to If you look at, if you get edibles For instance, it doesn't say, it doesn't give you Directions of like, this is the dosage Right, so I would do a thousand milligrams Of edibles And he would wake up in the middle of the night And then he would be like, what are you doing

And he'd be like frozen in this And he's like, am I moving? And he He would just freeze in this thing And it was so scary I had a toxic reaction weed That was at a famous weed smoking person's house Famous guy, and I thought, I'm gonna have to

Snoop dog! Not quite that But I thought, I'm gonna have to smoke you with these guys tonight So I take two hits and I have a toxic reaction And I have like, I'm like Parkinsonian My wife goes, sit down I can't figure out

How to make my body do that And I was dry mouth Photophobic, it's called anticholinergic delirium Oh, wow I think that's what he had I couldn't drive for two days and I wasn't right for like five days That sounds like you And then he would have

He couldn't regulate his body temperature So even if it was like, in the summer He would just be wrapped up and freezing The other thing, I had some of that And I had time compression and the lengthening too I went outside, I thought, all right If I can get through two hours here Just cooling out, I'm kind of pacing

The opposite of, hi, I'm miserable I'm miserable, just misery And I'm kind of out there And my wife comes out and checked on me And then she went back, she came out and checked on me I thought, all right, what do we have? An hour and 45, how long have you been out here? And she goes, 10 minutes

I blew my mind, I said, well, I gotta get out of here Yeah, yeah, yeah Wow, yeah I mean, it's like It's so funny, you drive down You know, especially you drive down Ventura, for instance, right? And there's just so many stores

All those green crosses everywhere And they're so nice And inviting And we're not here trashing people that love weed People who works Good for you, but it is a Wide spectrum Of how it's tolerated

And what it does to people But somebody told me, though, that In rehabs, they said that Sometimes people with real traumatic Lives, when they take weed, it has an Adverse effect Yeah, of course, yeah, any hallucination Can have an adverse effect

That's what a sort of bad trip kind of is Yeah, so it's like How I understand it is that even when I did Ketamine, one of the things that was told to me Is like, you know, if you have any history Of Schizophrenia or anything like that But basically you don't have this

To bring it all back together If you take A hallucinogen or something like that Were you taking it for depression? Yeah, so I'm very Kind of like stone cold sober, I maybe drink Twice a year But was it like a three treatment

With anesthesia or was it a light thing With guided therapy? It was Ketamine-assisted psychotherapy Therapy, okay But there is an ER doctor there A version where you just go out And they just give you a big dose of it

And you do that three times, that helps mood Oh, but that's what it's Not for you, sir I was definitely out, like I couldn't move My body I could hear a garbled version of my voice Like I could hear, like I would occasionally ask Like, am I breathing?

But it was like a distant voice Like, am I breathing? Well, that's because Ketamine is a dissociative Anesthetic, makes you dissociate 100% for me Faster than any, because I was on antidepressants for a long time Yeah, there's clearly going to be a A sort of a revolution in the use of these things

There already is underway, people are doing it You know, the problem is we just, I've seen catastrophes And so I worry like, oh wow I could see how it can be really catastrophic Ketamine not so much, Ketamine Ketamine what I worry about is triggering somebody But I've seen catastrophes From other hallucinogens, like really

Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm very mindful about it I get it, let me ask you Let's stop talking about it, okay And I want to ask you about another thing, okay Because we talked about the last time When we were at the old house We talked about the homeless problem in LA Oh my god, remember the last time I saw you, by the way?

What was it? Yeah, I did see you, where did I see you? In Austin, I think In Austin, Texas, that's right I'm just curious if you remember No, I just, I travel so much, I meet so many people Yeah, I do, me too We meet together

We loved it together I don't think you were sober That's what I'm kind of getting at It was in Austin, yeah, I don't think you were sober It's like four months ago or five months ago I think longer than that Oh wait, maybe you were sober Yeah, I was with Juliana

That's right, that was fun So good to see you No, what I'm saying is that You said that because three years ago The last time you were on the show You were saying that there are New kind of diseases on the street Oh yeah

Is it getting worse or better in LA? It's getting worse, that part's getting a little better Because they're controlling the rap populations A little better And God bless Karen Bass, she's really trying She doesn't really understand what she's dealing with But I admire her She's like going forward with stuff

And the activists so-called Which are, in my mouth Murderers, they just murder people By leaving them to die on the streets Have not been giving her as hard a time As they would someone else, which has been great But of course, you know, you can take A bunch of drug addicts, you put them in a house

Now you have Meth fires and meth labs And gangs And all kinds of other things You gotta treat the addiction or nothing changes And they go back out on the street What's the combination of addiction And also probably psychological things

That are going on and stuff Which are sad There's a team A friend of mine put together a team of medical doctors That are going out on the street Using long acting psychotics Using opiate replacement therapies And have built now a team of like 50 people

Where they're actually treating these people And guess what? It's making a huge difference These are all severely ill By all I mean 85% Severely ill people Not hard to treat, quite treatable There's nothing left to die on the street

When I last talked to you, I believe it was five a day We're dying, now we're at seven dying a day On the streets of Los Angeles County Alone And those are drug addiction What do you treat them with? Like Suboxone? Yeah, you can do that You can do all kinds of stuff

I've treated shit like this my whole life It's just awful to see them just out there dying And there's a There's a video going around of Newsom Saying clean and sober is the worst thing Anybody ever said I can't even comment on this But I don't know when that was from

It might have been from a while ago But the point being Is there's 23 million people Who are in the program And they thrive and not everyone can do that I understand that some people may need Some sort of intermediate Steps, you know

If I was governor and I had all power I was the dictator of California And I'm sorry To hear it seem heartless But I'm just going to You guys are my city council guys And we've got Elon Musk somewhere around And we've got some smart people around

We've got money, right? So what if I said this? Do you ever see the movie Escape from New York? I don't know It's not Warriors Same concept Can't we make Let's go out to a desert

They'll never go Because you're my vice president And I have not said my idea And I don't like when you do that I don't think governors have vice presidents Lieutenant governor I'm sorry I said the wrong thing I'll hold my tongue now

Dr. Drew So let me just finish my idea We build a city We wall it Attack on Titans Thick walls, tall Check it out We're not in New York

So we wouldn't have that What's another monument thing In LA We'll bring the Hollywood sign over there On the ground We'll just put it on the ground And so We build

Facilities inside Psychiatric units Lieutenant governor I'm saying yes I think he's gunning for your seat He's gunning for my seat I know what you're doing Let me finish my fucking idea

We have programs We bring food in Housing Nurses Why can't we do that I love your idea Because that's what I can't paint on I can't paint on the city

What you're talking about is building A hospital A psychiatric hospital No, I'm not Exactly what it would be That's what you're talking about That has full What's the word I'm looking for

A range of services From acute to sub-acute To outpatient to residential To independent living To vocational rehab And yes, that's exactly what's needed In California We're not doing that

We don't have enough psychiatrists Or psychiatric beds We don't have enough residential treatment centers And we're not allowed to get near these patients And do anything with them if they say they don't want it That's the law And you're allowed to steal To support your drug habit

Use a certain amount of drugs And traffic in a certain amount of drugs And no consequence And addicts from all across the country know that And that's why they come here They come here to practice their disease So if you suddenly go What do you think they're going to do

That's what you didn't hear my full plan Well, let's hear that part It's not come with me You're going That's the slogan It's illegal in California You want to be a lieutenant governor? Because I'm the fire of this guy

You're going But to your point, we should be like Hey, you can't stay here We got a thing over here that's great food Work, we'll retrain you Let's talk We'll talk about your drugs and stuff over there Get over here

With people who have motivational engineering skills Know how to do this Know how to get somebody into the program In a few days off drugs They start thinking about it And they're all pissed They're all pissed when they get sober They left me on the street like that

How about at fairs They have the little ball thing where it goes up We have a bunch of those machines We have a ski ball We'll have the ice thing We'll have the whole thing We'll just call it Jim and Buster's

Bob and Buster Tell me a story I have a sister Who is About ten years older than me When I was eight years old She had just entered college She graduated high school as a valedictorian

But then started dating a boy To do anything else Everybody had to be perfect She got into drugs During her first year of college That damn boyfriend it's his fault And then Got in it so bad that she

Became basically A street meth head For five years And she would come back Occasionally to the house With these like gangrenous wounds That were non-healing Why they're not healing

Because meth addicts pick at them I remember the smell so well It's an awful smell And my dad being like I'm gonna do something Please forgive me universe I know everyone's gonna hate me for this This is what I'm getting at

But this can only happen in the Philippines It can happen in America It involves handcuffs And radiators I've always said Look if I could take my patients And put them in a room for 30 days And then start working with them

I would have people very welcome That's what my dad did So he was like forgive me lord He cleared out my upstairs bedroom Held her prisoner He shot her He drank her I don't know what he did

Is he a doctor? He did go to med school But he never practiced He shaved her head So she couldn't use it again He cuffed her She detoxed in our house I heard screaming

And convulsing For a whole week It was terrifying for me And it was like having like basically Linda Blair Like the exorcist living upstairs And when she After he detoxed her He put her in a lockdown facility for six months

Which was like a really hardcore military boot camp Where they had to get up at 4am Do like hard labor And without visitors for six weeks And there was like a treatment program or something It wasn't a treatment program I don't know what it was But I've often wanted to

Bring that kind of element into treatment There we go But she got out and she Again it's He got A lot of people said a lot of horrible things about him But she never used again A program too

After it wouldn't know And now she is Like a businesswoman married to a judge And her daughter is Bobby how do we understand that Because that's not traditional addiction Traditional addicts go back They need something to keep them sober

I don't know I call it dependency So she's a meth dependent addict Rather than a full blown addict I don't view it All the same All I know for myself I just know my story

And the way I feel I can't be out there Just me personally And I've seen other people be able to do things Granted even if there are Drug addicts Because there are different flavors of addiction And you're what I would call real deal

You're the real deal Your sister got Dependent on meth To all the world like addiction when they're in it But when they get and they need And they respond to treatment very similarly to A Bobby like addict But later they don't tend to go back as much

It's interesting I don't know what that How to think about that even I always sometimes think about like before 1935 Before 12 step groups started What I would be a traditional Fun loving hobo You mean I'd be that guy like

Oh there's hobo Bob That would be the best outcome Oh you think so? The reality would be dead Yeah I would die for sure But I would still do the dance With a stick with a little Sack with white polka dots on

Yeah I also do the cart thing I would pretend that I have no legs And they go hobo Bob Do the legless thing again You got run over by a train People would just give me whiskey and stuff And I would live in an alleyway But I think that's what my outcome would be

Yeah for sure You are kind of a friendly Alcoholic Cause I remember A weird one too Cause he had locked himself in a hotel Room and I was like knock knock Let me in before I kicked his fucking door down

Let me in Hold on sweetie Hold on I don't want you to see this What was it Just fucking Clamados everywhere You drink clamato when you drink? Oh man it's worse than I thought

It's such a Korean thing Yeah my dad did it He mixed beer with clamato So I did it You know what I'm missing is more clam I need some clam with tomato juice My dad loved it but I just couldn't drink beer on its own

Anyway I like whiskey but my point is I'm a fun loving drunk I think at times But like a real weird guy On weed Weird Glad you know that by the way In this world in California

Somebody could talk you into it California sober But he also started on ADHD Medicaid He doesn't like it I know That's why Here's why I forgot about our encounter

Because it's an amphetamine I mentioned it to you in Austin And you said we'd have to talk about it I went oh my god this is not good Him and Tom Cruise are the same Let's talk about it So is it Adderall? It's a Ritalin

What? I just worry about it It has the potential to stimulate Those parts of the brain that we associate with addiction Now I'm not going to argue with success You're doing great Yeah I mean obviously it has If your sponsor signs off on it

He does and I have an adverse effect to it almost It's like I don't When people say speed I could fall asleep right now Well that's what it does to Stimulate addicts Stimulate addicts go down On stimulants

But also to ADHD And ADHD patients Do they call it like When something has the Opposite effect of something It's like idiosyncratic Really it's idiosyncratic That's what they call it

But it is common Not a lot of addicts necessarily spin up People get a little misconceived about I could tell when somebody's on meth You may not So you're worried that it's going to trigger I worry it keeps the biology operating Hard work to stay sober

And part of the staying sober is letting those parts Of your brain just reequilibrate And you might be tickling that part A little bit through all this time I'll tell you doctor, I'll tell you something And this has never happened before in my life And this happens probably once Or twice a week

I'll have a conversation with somebody at a comedy club And half we do the conversation They'll go whoa And I'll go what And they'll go you're still here And I go what do you mean Usually this is about the time Where you walk away

During a conversation And I want to listen And it does work for me If I wasn't on it I would be I don't know about my happiness But I think I would be What are alternatives

There are some non-stimulant ADD medications out there Are they just as effective? No They're not as different I don't want to kid them They're not as effective But sometimes they are Even clonidine is one of those

Intuitive and these stuff It's one of the medicines they use To try to avoid the stimulant part But like you're doing great You just keep telling your sponsor what you're doing And if he sees you start to go south You'll have somebody there to tell you What are the tall tall signs?

You're thinking gets fucked up You're not Striving or Preoccupying or craving You start thinking things are good ideas That get you closer to a relapse Including Hiding from your sponsor

These things that you're like I don't want to tell them about this Those are good ideas That's your brain going that's right That's a good idea We're going to try some more And now we're all full in Confidence

I don't know about false sense The stimulant The stimulant can make you grandiose If it's not working right I don't agree because Since I've been on it In the last seven months It's driven me into

Going to meetings more Because I can still feel That If I don't I'm depressed I'm not connected to people And it's forced me to go You know what? This is the feeling

That you have when you go out So I'm going to do A counter thing And just keep going to meetings This is why I'm not Absolutely dogmatic about everything Your sister's one flavor And your dad did this thing

That has ethical problems Your dad did this thing But it's a thing that works For that kind of addiction I'll say And Bobby has multiple things going on And if you don't pay attention To some of them, it can also take you out

So maybe he's at a stage Right now, we're treating the ADD or ADHD Is ADD, right? And if you don't treat it properly That's a risk, right? So you got to navigate As long as he's looking good Doing good, being honest

Being of service, telling a sponsor everything You're in pretty good shape today And again, it's one day at a time One moment at a time And also everyone in the room, I want to say If you see behavior Right? That seems Concerning

No, no, no No, no, no Hello Yeah, yeah, listen No, no, no I'm letting everyone in this room Call me out on it I don't think you'd do it though, George

I think you're too scared He is really nice There's no reason You've never said anything Even when I was like, were you in Mexico with us? Yeah, turn this mic up Use Wondermic You never didn't say anything

But saying something down there Wouldn't have done any good Because when Andrés Tried to tell the waiter To not give you any alcohol in your drink You started ordering doubles So you were very much It was different

I understand that when anybody tells you not to do something I want to do the opposite So there it was more of a Try to appease to a level That you won't go even further Yeah, and the one thing I did tell George Was because I didn't want you to go to Mexico I begged your management

To say, hey, you got to cancel this He's really unwell He's just in a full blown fucking alcoholic binge But all I told George was I don't care what you do Just bring him back alive And then we'll talk about an intervention When you get home

You thought of it being a drug counselor or anything That kind of work? No, because I don't think I can relate well Because I've never had any addictions You understand it better than most You'd be a great therapist You'd be great That was scary that you said that

The night that he ran away and we couldn't find him Yeah, my voice was ringing I ran away where? Into the jungle, Bobby We were trying to walk you back to your room And you noticed that we were trying to walk you back You were hiding, I believe I got in a fight with that

Palestinian guy What did you say? I wasn't even there for that I got in a fight with a Palestinian guy I just vaguely remember It's like, why are you guys kicking along with the Jews? Oh boy Why?

Why, you know what I mean? Where's the Jews? I want to tell them, let's get together You know what I mean? I was going to try to negotiate The peace right there But I went off to do that So sorry, I was trying to save the world I should have let you go sooner But they did bring you back alive

And then you did get sober soon after We were driving you and I to Korea town And I looked at you and said What's up? It's time And you looked at me and said Yeah, I think it's time And George, don't ever

Come straight at people Use a lot of wonderment And questions I'm wondering if you ever thought about it It's called therapeutic wonderment But from now Before that But from here on out

Both of you guys, you say something I can't be the only one You've never said anything You've never said anything Pertaining some other stuff I don't tell you don't do that I will look at you and you make no eye contact With me because you know I'm being serious

You get uncomfortable when he gets serious Oh, that's right Because you're the silly guy And when the silly guy gets serious It's weird The one time I feel like you actually Really absorbed what I was saying And it was interesting

In the middle of your guys breakup I was talking between both of you separately And I was here to fix something I was like, alright, peace bro And you just stood up from playing And crossed your arm and started pacing And started asking me questions about your relationship And I was like, oh, okay, you want us to talk

So then I was just, I was not there to tell you what to do But it was more... You were sober But it was a very tense time Because I care about what you think And I respect you as a human being I feel like we're friends And I, you know, so from now on

If you see your boss The Korean Elvis Right Almighty Actor Rye Say something Ridlin' Ridlin' Ridlin' Ridlin' Ridlin'

Syler whatever you're taking What are you taking? What do you mean? Are you taking Ridlin? The long acting? Not a lot though The long acting one? Not a lot of milligrams Yeah, and um There's some days, like yesterday, I didn't take it at all Because I was sick

And I just kind of went, I don't want to take it right now But that kind of concerns me If you're not taking it at all, you save it Do you like double up? No, no, no, no, no, no, no Because if I take, because my thing is 15 milligrams, right? If I take more than that, it doesn't feel right

Okay I feel like I could just make a noise To show you how it feels Make sure who's ever prescribed me I'll make the noise real quick though Okay That's not fun

Yeah, that's it Just make sure whoever's prescribing knows Understands addiction, like really understand it If not, kind of be careful What do you mean understand it? What the fuck are you saying, man? Psychiatrists don't understand addiction I know, I have a therapist and a psychiatrist Do they understand addiction?

Or do you have to kind of teach them? No, they love it Because my therapist Her husband has 35 years Okay There are people out there that know how to do this Yeah, I know, they do You're not the only one that knows things

I know that That's not why I didn't call You just said the riddle and thing I know, there's always some reason And I don't want to get in that conversation Now we're having it About me on the thing On the riddle, didn't I just sign off on it?

That's great, is that wrong? No, we're not, I'm just saying I must be wrong about it, you gotta get off that shit You're right Dude, wonderman That was the opposite of wonderman Yeah, I just have to say that though Also, can I just say this, is that I grew up

Watching you You have to understand this In your mind So I was a fan of yours I'm like, so the first time I met you I was like, holy fuck, I know Dr. Drew, he knows my name And now we're

segwaying into this friendship thing I think I'm beyond it now I don't respect you anymore But that's really interesting No, no, listen, that's right Like back in the day Oh my god, look at you You aged very well

I feel like you're hotter now There's nothing interesting going on now So funny But You're pointing at something really interesting That nobody talks about But let's talk about this, because I was a fan of yours too Back on Mad TV days

Yeah, and It is this weird thing Where you have to like End the fan Unilateral relationship You know what I mean, it's very weird It's a weird thing, and it takes time I've got a lot of people in my life like that

And if people aren't I don't even imagine anybody has that with me So I just move on Do you imagine people have it with you? You can't imagine that people have it with you Yes, that's what I'm saying But I'm telling you, I had it with you No, I get it, but I have the same execs

Yeah, you're doing the pop-man You're right You're right, you're right I shouldn't do that, that's obnoxious No, I love it He does not have any problem with me now It's just like I'm not afraid

But you're right, it is an interesting thing Who else do you have that with? Howie Mandel was another one And he's the nicest guy in the world I love him, but the first couple of years It's like, I'm with Howie Mandel But now when I see Howie, it's like There's no thought at all

I had this conversation with Matt Walsh Because we were doing a movie And I go, you know, like everyone here That is like Can't believe you're in this movie From the Vice President And he's like, what? I go, you don't know that about yourself?

He goes, no, why would I think about that? And we had like an hour conversation About what that all means Any conclusions? Nobody discusses this It's an interesting topic I think it's A human, natural human

Feeling They get excited to be around people They have this Relationship with through screens and stuff It's an excitement But then you get to know them as people And they're, you know, especially when you Have a relationship with them

You know there's arguments that happen And then you just kind of Naturally forget You forget the old relationship I think that's what happened when I think we first had sex I was like, oh my god, Bobby Lee's inside me That's right

I said the same thing That's right, you did And I said I was Raw dogging There is a sense of like Because I think like a year prior to that I saw you go up at the comedy store Right after Chris Rock

And you obliterated the room And I was like, huh, I went there to see Not you, but you like But I was like, no shit He's the funniest one Anyways, there was a point there where I was like Like you'd be asleep and I'd look over I'd be like, huh, this is strange

It's strange, yeah Like we're in love, we're in love Like we're friends, we talk every day We have a life together And then you get used to each other And then you forget, you really do forget You completely forgot I forgot quickly

As soon as the fungus in the foot started happening You know, like just the weird stuff started happening Like this is, you're a gross little thing Yeah, and I wear my Dr. Ken mask You know what I mean? What was the girls like on TV? You sat on a fart in her face And again, fart in her mouth

On her yogurt She knew, she already knew, she could have warned you You see, she knew Intimately, yeah When I did that to her, for instance She's like, I don't know this guy And then over the last Eight years we were on the show together

Or whatever I could do it seven years in Right? I just did it In the wrong time Farting in her mouth Too soon She wasn't ready for it I'm not sure she ever would have been ready for farting in her mouth

Farts flavored yogurt is just not a thing You know, people like Not a chick thing I understand that But I'm just saying that she wouldn't call her lawyer She would have understood She could even say this Don't ever do that

I don't like it It wouldn't turn into this thing I don't fart in anyone's mouth anymore That was my last time I'm just saying that if a hot chick came up And farted in my face I don't know if I would be like, I'm going to get a lawyer Different

Different But interesting If a woman that wasn't attractive did it I would just think I would be upset If I didn't like it then it would be okay Yeah, you would shoot Channing tandem

She would be like, yeah You know what they do? They laugh He's so funny Because I'm a fat Asian guy It's racism It's anti-agent racism That's where I start to stop Asian

Remember My friend from Love Line A Mexican guy That dude would say and do horrible things to women And they would just laugh Don't laugh at him You're laughing at him And not Bobby

Because it's him You're looking at him and then you start laughing I see what you think It's like Jack Knight's RIP Jack Knight's joke If I were to get herpes from my partner I'd be pretty upset

Unless I'd be proud of her That's another interesting thing That we're getting at I wish I was better looking I can fart in people's eyes You're fine Because then you wouldn't be Bobby Lee

That's another weird thing But Then you wouldn't be Bobby Lee But that's who I am The fart guy I know you are But I don't want you to be the Channing fart guy Oh I see

What is the psychological thing behind someone Wanting to be a nudist Or naked all the time I don't, well It's a lot of things Naked all the time in their own home Or in a nudist camp Always having the urge to undress

What do you think that is? I love it What do you mean what it is? What does it do for you? It doesn't do anything But you like it It's not that I like it I don't understand why people don't like it

I don't understand why people don't like it That's why I do it Do you know why people would not like people farting in each other's mouths? That's different You can get COVID Can you get COVID through farting in someone's mouth? Yeah You can imagine right?

That's why I have an ass mask Maybe not Interesting question But my point is Being naked though It's not like that because it's not an assault I'm not touching you I'm not seeing anything weird

If I got completely naked right now Everyone in this room would be weirded out That's an assault Yeah but why? Why would that make you feel uncomfortable? It actually would Have you seen his penis? We're not doing that

We're not there yet No thank you I don't want to see his penis I don't want to show him my penis I feel like that's okay I don't have any objection I think you're right You know what it is

Because of the fact that I will never show you my penis It's showing people that I can do It's waving your penis at them It's not a sexual thing It's like spam a lot The Frenchman Behind the castle wall

I wave my genitals at you It's like a snow leopard It's not Snow leopards are elusive Maybe you see them once every 10 years Everyone see your penis In the sense of this What a snow leopard will do

Is to communicate with people It's pee on a rock It's marking Now with people with other snow leopards Right I think I'm marking Your penis is marking You do have a weird marking impulse

That's what it is He does it Even now that we're broken up I mark you? You mark me if you suspect them on the phone With a boy He'll barge into my space And say, sweetie babe

I love you Or he does this Can you make me a sandwich? Give me the pasta No, the other night Can you make me the pasta now? I asked 30 minutes ago You're into sort of power modes

Right? These guys are better looking than I am Right? It's just on the surface But I have to let them know that I'm in charge And I'm around I have like zero

Thoughts about power Zero What are you looking at me like that for? I don't know you that well But I'm beginning to know you And I think that there's something about you I don't know how you became Who you are

Right? Dr. Drew, but I'm pretty sure Subconsciously You like the fact that people know who you are Because I like people And I like that people just come up to me Because I'm so fucking shy I had three quarters of my life

I would never have the kind of contact with other people Yeah, I felt invisible my whole life Yeah, you know what I mean? So I don't like fame for fame sake I like being known because I get to interact With people in these wonderful ways Dr. Drew, didn't you say that you were very detached From feeling your emotions?

I had certain dissociation stuff going on too I was traumatized too But I really still though I'm quite shy If I don't have something to do in a crowd Like I have a purpose, a job Preferably I'm very uncomfortable

I like it because I get to be nice to strangers Yeah People are great If you love people it's like this great blessing And before I would walk into a bar And just feel like no one's In my early twenties I was just I'm invisible

I'd have to not even go I don't know, but I think that Does that make you sad though that we have to do that? Um It makes me sad for other people That haven't solved that problem The fact that I've kind of solved it Interesting, interesting

But it makes me sad I have this weird I get sad for people Me too You know what, I get sad a lot Yeah But aren't you happy though I've been reflecting about my life You know, not that I'm going to die soon

Who knows I'm going for the governor's Yeah A lot of reflecting back And I'm So I mean we've had some tough times I've been in and out of being sober

And you know, my dad dying And my mom being alone And my brother's doing his thing And all this stuff Even with all that, right I'm beyond grateful I cannot believe this is my life So that is

That's probably the healthiest thing I ever hear people say And I have similar feelings I just have lately not some COVID Fuck me up a little bit, but I generally Have gratitude every day Me too And it also tells me how your program is going Really?

There's a little bit of jealousy still And like Andrew's In Australia now Another big movie I just learned a new word From our friend Shanti It's on her podcast Her new podcast

And it's the word compersion Which is the opposite of jealousy It's kind of just feeling thrilled for somebody I am thrilled for him And you can be both I'm a combination of both It's not Envy though Envy, he would have to destroy him

Jealousy is I want to do that It's not even that When he books a job now And a big movie and stuff It's not like I know why I love him Andrew

He's so talented He's a great actor Before I knew him He's the other guy I was excited to know I was like who the fuck is that guy I'm compelled to watch him He's funny as shit He's like no you deserve that

That's all you baby It always goes back to me And it's like what am I doing wrong How about why can't I And I'm on hold I mean I sold two shows I'm on hold for a huge movie right now Between me and three other people

Two other people So I got stuff going on Why don't you do improv anymore Or do you? I've never done improv Which I guess would be the way to describe it I'm not going to create a sketch group And perform it live that's weird

But I just have a feeling the sketch I don't know it would come back again No no no you're right Me and Andrew want to do a sketch show I think we've talked about doing a sketch show It's still a possibility But I did that

I did it for eight years You guys would come in every year To Love Line Every year You and Will Sasso That's it we're officially done We're done Because we never got

Probably the only show in history where they said We're going to take it year by year Jesus And at the end of every season they went Canceled that's it It's over They'd come in and be guests on our show And they'd go you're not going to see us anymore

Because we used to do it on the same set On Hollywood Center I just had that feeling you guys were talking About like seeing someone Like having reference for them on TV I fight You and you sat here Together it's like you were my high school years

Like mad TV And then Dr. Drew at night You know and it was just It shaped so much of So that's weird I apologize For both of us I apologize For associating

It is weird if you go back to that But we don't think that You don't think that You wake up and you go I'm hungry I feel a little depressed And then you get a meal All these normal human things

I wonder what mom Think of all the crazy things we've been able to do And people we've been around Very grateful So surreal And I told somebody last night I go You should never

People dream As a young person I dreamt All these fantasies about Show business and early on In my comedy years And I go if I just did this, this and this God please It's never that

God did things for me I couldn't even envision for myself And that's what's great about Very skeptical You gotta have a goal You need to improvise You have to Do it

Whatever your passion is Do it The results are up to you But the results are always more magical And otherworldly There's no blueprint For some of these things that are really interesting I still have no blueprint

I'm still day to day What's also great about If you're a guy that's taking risk And trying to live their dream Is what's great about that life Is that every day could be the day Because when you get a job Something fun happens

It's like a little lottery hit So for me I had no fun In my family of origin Fun is very important My wife is very fun But back to your dream come true Kind of thing I have no objective

In media other than to Use it to do something To do good So for me it always is very Purposeful I can't imagine what it would be like If it's just to try to Have the next hit or something

That's it But hang on I just want you to tell me What that is for you I gotta be able to do good I'll put myself in environments where I'm doing good but I'm going to Find a way to make it good I think I know what it is

It's a combination of a couple things I remember growing up And seeing people Asian people being portrayed a certain way Even not as actors and stuff But as personalities And there was also these Lingering stereotypes

Of what an Asian male is It's always like he goes to college He becomes a doctor You're right And I remember going I'm so not that I'm like the polar opposite And when I saw Margaret Cho for the first time

On TV I was like that's closer To what I am You must know Margaret now right? Does she have a similar goal? Exactly The other day I ran into Ronnie Chang and Aquafina

And they were like And The way they look at me It's like out of respect You broke through That's one reason I wanted to show people And also secondly is I like

Making people happy So it's like when I'm performing And I see them laughing And having a good time Because I think deep down in the sun I am a nice guy And I like doing that for people I get something out of it as well obviously

So I think those are the two reasons Is that valid? Those are my valid reasons And also like so comforting For me to see A disastrous Asian When I first saw She suddenly took a quite a turn

Shit show When I first listened I'm a shit show When I heard DVD ASA And I heard David Cho Asa Kira And you together in a room I was like oh these are my people

That's my yeah that's the ilk Yeah like this is like I love Watching Bling Empire and seeing Like really rich Asians Be fucking disastrous Like that's like I have such a burner for that You started watching that show the New York one? The New York one yeah and it's just like

Full just like everyone is It seems like unstable And they have all their extreme But because I like Looking at the I like to disrupt The idea of like the model Oh the perfect stuff

The other stuff your family demanded too Is all that perfection Also this is another thing Is that because When I told my parents I'm gonna be a comedian In 1994-95 They had no one

To compare me with Impossible Right and it's not the case now Right and so I feel like Thanks to you I mean not just to me I think there's so many people that did that But I feel like I contributed to that

For sure I'm gonna take off the topic Before I forget Aquafina I'm a major major fan And I met her And I think we fanned over each other And it got weird and we couldn't tolerate it It really gets so weird

That I'm like no no I want to be the fan I am the fan You are great She couldn't take that She's very good about Giving people their light Their what? Like spotlight

She's a wonderful person Genuinely one of The fucking best people Love Jimmy too I love everything about him Yeah I think That crop of kids That are below me

I like them in different ways But I never understood And this is probably something that can cause a little controversy But there are certain wars that happen With certain ethnicities That are in comedy There what?

The Hispanic comedy community Half the people hate the other half There's all these infighting All this hatred You know who brought that Forer was Allie Wong She talks about that in her comedy a little bit But I don't see that in Asians

Really Are you fucking crazy? No Asian comics Say it Well that's all comics though I mean not even in this comedy Asians in general There's so much beef

Between Southeast Asians And even within the Filipino community There's just Never ending beef But not in comedy I mean Just say it Say what you're gonna say

Look at that poster I love this game That has nothing to do with being Asian It's more Asian guys Hang on a second Stop Yeah go ahead Maybe if you're saying

The Mexican community Maybe they did shows together as well It's being close to somebody that makes you Have a beef with them I feel like I'm the one that's starting the beef I think you are I'm the beef guy That's why I can't see it

In others because I'm the one that's starting it It's almost like inevitable when you have the scarcity mentality It's like you guys were Asians had very few things to fight over There we go that's what it is Scarcity Scarcity But here's another thing too

I've heard endless stories of either Ken Or dat fan like doing like a dragon kick To your chest You guys have been physically You guys been beefing forever Ken attacked you Ken Jong It's hard to believe

You fart in his face No but he did not like Are you guys that good now We're good now We'll never be the same He's a friend too I used to have him sit in for me On Love Land on the radio

Because he's an excellent physician I'm so pissed that he let his license lapse Because he was excellent He's an excellent comedian We had a problem Love to pitch again The Kim's a comedy reunion having Dr. Drew Moderate that

I want to wear some sort of Black white stripe You would need like Armor You would need armor because That will never happen again Is that when you got kicked in that particular picture It was in that time period

Multiple feuds within the group Different time periods He's a center Which sucks Maybe it's me It's a Taylor Swift song for a reason Is it me Let's George

Is it me I wasn't there at the time You just based on the information That you have do you think it's me Based on the information I've heard That you wanted most of the money From the shows It was you

You're the only thing you can't control So you might as well assume it's you But you've made peace with all of them Not the fourth one There's a very popular Taylor Swift song It's me hi I'm the problem It's me It's me hi I'm the problem it's me

Or it's me you're looking for That's also that one Is it me you're looking for That's another one Did you guys ever see the video That Ken Jong did before anybody knew who he was What's it gonna be He's dancing and stuff

So good I don't want to talk about him anymore I don't want to talk about him anymore You know I went on The Masked Singer Just to sort of spoof him and Jenny You should go on The Masked Singer Yeah I would love to Me and Steve are good

It's just me and the other guy isn't good But I would like to resolve that soon I know you do I like to resolve that And I'm the one that's causing the beef In the Asian community And I apologize to everybody I just like it

Any future wars Anything coming down to pipe is what he's asking Right now dude is there a war I think my problem is this I talk a lot You do I talk a lot of shit You're very kind though There's this duality to me obviously

You talk shit about people No I don't talk shit I just I do it in fun Out of love Only good things No way In fact me and Matt Jones Yeah I don't think you do

But he's a fan of yours And me and Matt Jones we have a show idea That you're involved in In the pilot And we Spent hours talking about you You're an anomaly You really are

You're one of a kind I gotta come back on this podcast I'm having a very different experience this time Last time I was a little tired How do you feel this one It was a very good episode I love seeing you guys doing so well And by the way

It feels like there's a certain amount of freedom That's what we're talking about This sadness I'm alone in this house I have to admit to you There is a genuine Sadness It has to be I feel alone

Maybe a little time at the sex club It's fine I have to go through this This is healthy My mom said You called her to come over the other day She did To clean He's just watching movies

You want to talk about poor boundaries Dr. Drew He calls my mom to clean the house Because a girl is coming over That's not me It's kind of funny You've got the coolest mom on earth I asked her where you going

I gotta go see Bobby And I was like why He has a girlfriend tonight How does that make you feel Probably helps you with a lot Honestly it makes me feel We're probably going to be friends forever That's good

Because I was so sick that never happened I know she told me She said you guys had dinner together And then that's it yeah Me and your mom had dinner I wanted to No but I want to say that Over the last nine years

When I was laying in bed I would hear dogs barking And people talking in the living room And life and stuff And the cats don't make any noise Every once in a while Every once in a while But it's so quiet in here

And I think it's healthy The grief is definitely healthy It is and I'm just processing it And it's very surreal And I have to tell you That I'm not even remotely close In any way Of being in another relationship

I can't even imagine that I think right now in the next couple of years I'm going to hit meetings And I'm going to grow And yeah you're right I like the excitement of dating people Is it the grief I feel a very intense feeling in my stomach

Is that yours? There's grief Right here? Why? It's yours No I have this crazy ability To do that

I feel other people hold their pain And I'm having this really deep Right here And I know it's right But it's why Also because I'm feeling it I could see I would prevent you from being available For any other relationship

I'd like to add to that I know you're trying to tell me You aren't just going to jump into another relationship Because somehow you think That that would hurt me a lot No he can't This feeling is really It will hold you back

A big part of me Truly wants you to find A partner that meets your needs Much better than I thought I think that's why it's going to be almost impossible But I'm telling you I know it seems unfathomable And impossible to me

To find somebody that meets your needs Yeah I mean I look at my life And I look at how complex my schedule I mean because there's even on dates I ask certain questions To see if you know what I mean I don't think you should even be thinking about What it is that my next relationship should give me

Because I think you're going to Change so much in this next year of sobriety And as you get through this grief That wherever you are And what your ambition you evolve into Whatever your growth is Everything's going to look totally different to you And you might even decide

I'll just date on my relationship right now Whatever it'll be something But I'm this feeling he's having Which I'm feeling You can't be weird to try to be Even relate to another person You can't get close when you feel like that It's hard and by the way

Or you'll jump over that feeling Which is not the right thing I miss hearing your voice I miss you coming in and out of the room I miss all of those things And I know that it's necessary for This is just a transition period Oh my god I'm going to cry

But I do miss you I miss you too It's okay to cry, what's wrong with that I don't want to hug you because you have endurance I'm sick, you can't touch it Just do this No romantic But it is such a weird thing

I drew on trash to say basically The same thing to me There's no way I could jump into another relationship For different reasons but right Yes, that's true And I feel it Two things are happening I have a hard time just

Dating in the way you date Because in order for me to have sex I need to have a mutual liking With somebody and I need to have That deeper relationship To feel comfortable with So that kind of throws me In a weird situation

There are two different kinds of dates That I go on There's certainly women that It's a sexual based thing But there are some There's one I'm having sex with And we have a friendship But it's like

There are ones that I go on Dates where it's not sexual I'm trying to get to know the person You should just be having fun Communing with another human That's what it is Hanging out and getting to know somebody Whatever

I don't want to talk about this anymore I wanted one more question I have one more question for Dr. Drew Is it unhealthy That I find myself Kind of daydreaming a lot Ever since I was younger I would look away and for long stretches of time

That's a dissociative thing Do you have a tendency to dissociate a little bit? A little bit if it's high stress But daydream is another way to dissociate It can be useful You can get a relief from it But if you're not in command of it It can sort of

Who knows what you're doing in those moments Do you have a tendency I don't know, just watch it Pay attention to it There are moments where I stare off Because you talked about dead spots And there's really nothing going on in my head But I'm kind of just locked into this

Infinite something I think that's dissociative stuff And you need to kind of To be able to move in and out of that Is sort of the trick Not to let it kind of control you But to go, oh there's that again What am I feeling, I'm here, my feet are on the ground

And try to come back a little bit You have to have attention pieces I don't know if your attention gets blotted out You can't pay attention to what's happening And then you're really out But if you can bring awareness attention Then you can tell yourself Oh this is that again

You want to fill it You want to kind of fill it up Do you have a fear of dying I do, I don't like getting old More than anything, I fucking hate that It's so funny because since I've turned 50 I've never thought of it before But now it's

I was talking to Bill Maher Every time I talk to him he and I talk about it And it's just ridiculous And he's been older than I am too I know, he's probably scared of it, right? I wouldn't say scared of it, no Because I know Woody Allen's I don't know him, but I know that he's petrified of it

Woody Allen is? Oh how interesting He's an old joke, he's like I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens Right, right Did a movie called Love and Death But he Bill is mostly what I feel too It's just

It's bothersome I went out in the desert And did that Special Forces thing And I did that because I was feeling old, I'm like fuck this I don't think Bobby knows about it One of our questions was Can you tell us about that experience and who would survive in this room

You gotta pull it up It's a show? It's a reality show It's called Special Forces Fox I went out into the Wadi Rum Desert And trained with Special Forces Wow, I'm gonna see this trailer

Look at Bobby's alley He's been wanting to do Naked and Afraid You know, I'm up for a show In Australia And they're considering me to do a survival show In Australia, did I tell you? What are these? Is it SAS or is it? It's on Mars or something

Oh god, it's supposed to mimic Mars How do you survive on Mars? It was Jamie Lynn who saved my life All 15 of us, 16 of us are Dear friends now, we were bonded Amazing, yeah it's great So we dove Backward out of helicopter

Oh my god, I'm out 16 household names Have left their lavish lifestyle Do I tell her? I don't care how rich or famous they are They've entered our world And they will play by our rules They just beat the shit out of it

And they list it in the toughest test of their lives This is me and a brown Facing Monta Jordan I've become a little soft Do I still have that fire? Tear gas Oh god, oh my god An elite team of X Special Forces soldiers

This is not an adventure race This is a military selection We'll put them through a very Highly classified Special Forces training program Do not give out Each test based on the real course Oh I hate that This is your introduction into not being able to breathe

The only goal In the fuck It's going to be very steep for you all Is to last 10 days without quitting It's facing all of my worst fear Beverly Mitchell 7-11 What's passing? Go!

Break, break, break! You need to have the courage to get on Whatever it is, you know Dr. Drew They blew us up many times We've got the attitude now A big budget Oh yeah

They blew us up on that train And you signed your lifeline You signed everything To smash it It's about character It's about belief It's about trust I was worried about what I could get out of it

And how it's all about what I can do Come on, we can do it I've never worked harder in my life Take the pain I think you grow when you're uncomfortable I want to do this so bad I just want to feel like I'm just like worse You'll be a pained person

For damn sure You will be a better person Guys, Jagged Yeah, that's not a show for me I couldn't do that show I was like, can I do season 2? There's no fucking way How did you survive that? Many of us ended up in the hospital

You did I had heat stroke And severe dehydration Still wouldn't have traded it for anything Do you go to 4 seasons at night to go to sleep? No Can you ask for that in your contract? You're in the camp

120 degrees You're an hour from a road You're sleeping outside? The tents are hotter than outside It's just crazy How long are you out there for? 10 days is max This is not out yet

We're like 4 episodes in now You know who wins I do, but I can't tell you Wow, this is so interesting The one thing I can say That I loved about this thing Is these fucking women in my group are tough as shit Oh fuck yeah

95 pounds soaking wet Carrying the same 40 pound pack I'm carrying We're the oldest? Yes, by far That's what fucked me up I was in great shape I was having the time of my life And then boom, I couldn't move

I have problems I have bad shoulders, but all the heights Anything heights related, I'm out You know what, you get hypnotized by these guys Within 4 hours, we were just completely at their disposal And they tell you to do shit, you just do it You don't even think about it They just go listen to us, you'll be fine

You climb that cliff, you climb it, right? Go in the water Fuck my dick Why is it always the dick? I'll probably do it I'm curious Because I'm really good at just following authority Because someone yelling at me

I'm just like yes, yes, yes But that's ingrained in me Can I wear a knee brace? Yes, you could My right knee is fucked Alright, so what's the show called? Special Forces? Season 2 Give me an offer

Give me an offer, I'll do it Can we make sure your blood sugar is under control Oh sure, why? They have a medical team Okay, good Can I bring jujubes? No, no, no You can't bring jujubes out there

You're so busy Constantly, and they're yelling at you about everything Constantly Season 2, I want to compete against him Alright Let me see this though Even off camera, they were screaming at you There was no off camera

You never saw cameras There's no direct cut? I don't like the way you talk to me That's what I was saying When we were diving out of the helicopter There was a producing team off in the distance There'd be drones around You'd see drone cameras coming by you

So when you tap out Yes, you tapped out, you're out That's the whole point And so people tapped out Most people got hurt Also, when you get hurt, you're out It depends how hurt, but yeah I was like, please just give me some IV fluids

I'll go back in, they're like, now once I put an IV in, you're out That's it Are you still on the show? No, no, no, no In terms of on the airing? No, I was out pretty fast What episode were you on? Disgraceful

He didn't fucking last one day It was horrible Was he the first? What number were you? It was two That's still fucking bad I know, I would have done anything to stay If they asked me to go back, I'd have a hard time saying no

Wow You should go back season two with Bobby See who gets out first I'll last more than one It's brutal, you can't imagine how brutal it is I think that you have it Everything it takes to do the physical challenges Your blood sugar is what I'm concerned about

I don't have diabetes They don't feed you They stop feeding you Can you eat things that you see like a scorpion? You could There are no scorpions out there No nothing out there I'll find something

You have to shit in a pan We are shitting next to you Pan shitting? Number one These are real questions I'm so curious I'm not going to ask you how much But you get paid

That's number one Nobody does it for free Emirates first class Where is that at? That was the Wadi Rum desert in Jordan It's a British hit It's a British production team They just did one in the jungles of Vietnam

Apparently that was rough I want to do that one I'm mosquito-proof They bite me but I don't have a reaction I like the fact that they like my blood I don't know You have to be a good swimmer I got it

The height stuff Although we had three non-swimmers I felt so bad for them I was like just get me to the water There's so much stuff that happened Wow That's interesting Were you scared?

Yes But not afraid You get hit in your pants the whole time But you're just doing what they tell you to do I'll first blood it You want to see first blood You're going to ask to be left there Oh yeah

I'll sew my shit with my own fucking shit You'll see I'll fuck people up You gotta go watch the season I don't even know Because that'll throw me off I'm not going to watch I don't have to audition

Because I won't get it if I have to audition I get nervous They come around for you What do you think? Where are you going? Middle East How am I going to do that? I'm sorry

When you said I'm out There's a shame on your family Shame on your people You got some shame from it I'm so shameful My point is You go to a hotel after that? Yes

We're way out in Jordan You're not going to a four seasons So you spent one day in a hotel and you went back to America? Yeah, that happened to be at the other end But at the front end They quarantined us for a week at that same hotel It was going to be a resort by the beach It wasn't going like

It was a resort with a lot of bugs And not great food And I took a picture Of the Of my Weather screen for the day For the week I'll show it

This is so interesting You would say yes to it They call you I would have to say who else is doing it Well they get good cash Fortune theme sir, I'm in I can be fortune This was at the beach

That was at the beach That was at the beach To the desert, it was 20 degrees hotter Ron Jeremy I'll do it, I can beat him I think I can beat Ron Jeremy Who else? Judy Dench I can beat Judy Dench

Judy Dench Fortune theme sir, I love fortune Maybe take her name out of it Who else could I do? Miss Pat No, she'll quit She'll fucking quit as soon as she gets to the hotel Do you know that?

I don't know if I finished The thought, but What I was saying about what I learned The women in this thing They can give birth My god, they were so tough So tough Look at Nagin afraid

Usually women, guys quit Women stay the whole time Women are fucking the best They really are, man Any other questions or no? How long do we do it on time? Two hours We've never gone that long

Ever Once the longest we've ever gone Two something Old house That's insane, dude I loved it Give him a round of applause That was amazing

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