TigerBelly - Episode 14: Dear Heavenly Father

Episode Date: November 18, 2015

Bobby tells Ronda to get back to the mountains like Rocky. Khalyla threatens Gilbert with guava leaves. We say a prayer to a sexually ambiguous God. Khalyla just wants a hello.   Recorded November 16, 2015 Music by Bobby Lee Instagram: @tigerbelly Twitter: @thetigerbelly www.thetigerbelly.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening ad-free on Wondery Plus. Is it me you're looking for? No? Okay. Don't do that. Welcome to Tiger Valley. My name is Bobby. We've got Gilby and we've got my girlfriend Kalilah here.

And it's been a crazy fucking week, man. It's just been crazy. It's just all kinds of disastrous. Before we continue, most of the complaints that we've been getting this week via Twitter is that people absolutely hate when they can hear you eating on the mic. So if you can just swallow before we continue. Just swallow, Bobby.

But let me ask you this. Does it bother you? It does. It's been bothering me since before we even started this podcast when we were just on the calamity. Okay. So I won't eat. I won't eat anything. Even though I need protein, I know I need nutrients to get me going. For you, I won't eat anything.

Thank you. And for our viewers and our listeners. Okay. But can I start fucking over now? You just ruined my rhythm. It's been a crazy week. And there's so much to talk about. Is it they're not?

There's a lot. Huh? A lot. It's a lot. Number one, what happened? I'm going to say the obvious first. What do you mean the obvious? I popped a pimple on your back.

Oh, that wasn't the most obvious. Oh, now I want to know about that. She goes, Hey, pop this pimple. I'm like, what? It looked like it was like Mount Fuji. It was like, it was a period pimple. Because okay, my skin is generally clear. I don't break out in my face ever, but every,

every time a week leading up to my period, I always have just one monstrous volcano. And it just happened to me in an unreachable spot in my back this time. And I asked you and it was really full of pressure and it was hurting me. And I just asked you for a solid and you cried about having to pop a pimple, which is basically every other person's dream come true. Because if someone asked me to pop a pimple, I will drive 15 miles to their home just to pop it.

That's how rewarding it is for me. I'm just not a big fan. I just, I don't know about you, but I'm not a big fan of other people's pus. I follow Dr. Pimple Popper. That's how much I love. I don't follow that person. I don't even know who the fuck that person is.

It's just an Instagram of all like, um, cyst removal and blackhead removal and whitehead popping. And it's amazing. And then, um, so then that happened. And then, um, Paris happened. So we were on our, um, we flew to Vancouver Friday morning and in that span of two hours, that's when it happened. So when we landed, we saw the TV screen and it was, we were in shock.

And just absolute shock. Well, I was, you know how the, like the, the back of the seats have plain seats have the little, what do you call it? TV. TVs. All right, Bobby. Come on. They have TVs, right?

Yeah. So we had landed and I looked at this man's, the back of his TV. And there was like, it wasn't, it was not the back of his TV. It was at his TV. But it was on the back of somebody else's chair. That's in front of his anyway. Um, Jesus, I know. And you, you saw, you know, just mayhem.

And I was like, Oh my God. And we Googled it. And, um, or just, um, or been heartbroken about it. I have been. I really have been because have you seen the victims photos in it? I mean, they're just people that you just friends like, Oh, that's, that's my friend, Jim looks like that. Oh, I mean, that's my friend Lizzie almost, but she, you know,

Lizzie's not Chilean or whatever. You know what I mean? What do you think of, um, what do you think of people that have, um, been getting really upset at the fact that, you know, this, uh, Paris massacre has gone a lot of press versus let's, let's say like the Kenyan massacre and that, um, Garisa university earlier this year, like, what do you think of people saying,

no, you should pray for the world, not just Paris. Oh, let me ask you that. Let me ask you a question. In the Kenyan massacre, were there white people that died? Um, probably not Bobby. Well, then there we go. I think we should start this podcast over. You know what I mean?

I think, I think we should start this podcast over. Retraction. I'm totally kidding. It's a joke. He's a comedian. I retract it. I absolutely retract it. But do you really?

I do. I really do. I mean, you, I mean, but even with Asians when we get slaughtered, it's not as, it's not news. What was the last big? Like if you ask anybody, hey, do you know who Pol Pot is? Right. Generally people go, no, what's that?

Is that a dish? You know, right? You know, or I had that at a Vietnamese restaurant or whatever, but it's like, I think that you're asking generally Americans though, because I think everywhere else in the world, people do know who Pol Pot is. People do know.

No, I'm just strictly talking about Americans. Okay. You know, Pol Pot is considered one of the worst human beings ever to live on planet earth. Right. You know, he had the Khmer Rouge and he slaughtered three, four million Cambodians. You know, he, he, they developed that one torture where they take

the bamboo and put spikes in between the fingernails. So that slowly grows into people's fingers. You know, that's always a good one. But like, you know, there's all these things that happen, but if it doesn't involve, involve white people, that it's just not as tragic, you know, and I'm not, I'm not backing. What is white people? Cause the day before that there was a, if not almost the same amount of people that died in Beirut.

I mean, to me, Middle Eastern is still considered generally what, what, what, what race did they fall under? Not white. I mean, to some they are. To who? I mean, it's like, yeah, they're Middle Eastern, but it's like that's, they're not, they're neither black nor Asian. Like it's still false.

They're brown. They're not. Okay. Yeah. They're not desert Mexicans. You know what I mean? Retraction out. They're not desert Mexicans.

They're not desert Mexicans. They're not. They're not. They're not. Because basically Mexican, a lot of Mexico is a desert. And that's the most important thing. Jesus Christ. They don't smell bad.

They smell great. They smell great guys. They smell great. Hey, you know what? I'm not going to lie. I am part Egyptian, right? Yes. There we go.

I'm going to go and shower within a few hours. I got a little bit of the funk. Yeah. You never smell it. And she gets back pus. Yeah. Clean your back. Clean your back.

Can you do that, please? It was one pimple. I mean, Jesus. I'm calling Gilbert next time. I'm going to call you the next time I have a call. But I want to, I mean, it's like, I mean, there's, I don't know what to do about this. Because it's ISIS situation though.

Is this like, you know, Americans, we created that situation. Let's be honest, you know, we just, we just, we just destabilized. Is that the word? Destabilized. We destabilized Iraq, right? I don't know much about it, but like a lot of his army,

Saddam Hussein's army, right? We're disenfranchised and they joined ISIS, correct? It was just chaos. There was a civil war and, and people said that that was going to happen if we went in there and we went in there and we caused that. And, um, Yeah, but to keep going back and saying,

Okay, like, Okay, we can, we can stick blame where we think it originated, but that's just not, But no, nobody, nobody, What I'm saying, You watch CNN, no one talks about that. I understand that because they don't say, No, but they should say,

That's no longer the problem at hand. You know, ISIS, you know what I mean? They, they attacked Paris, Bush created that. But that's, They should say that. That's no longer the problem at hand. But they don't ever say that. Okay, that's fine.

So even if we know where it originates and even if we all accept it, that doesn't fix anything. I know. I know. And I feel my sentiments towards Paris to Beirut, the crashing of that plane, of that Russian airliner in Egypt.

It's, it's, I feel so deeply and, and I feel so wrong about it that I, that I'm, I have nothing to say because it's almost, I'm at a place where it feels hopeless to me because I'm not somebody who can impart any type of change into what's happening.

It's almost like this is out of my hands. I can only elect who I, who I can elect, who I into power, but it's not, there is nothing at this point in my life that I can do to change that. And it, I feel so hopeless about it. So I basically, I,

I want to have an intellectual opinion. I just have nothing to say. I feel more than I can say. I want to say something maybe controversial and I don't want to get in trouble. Well, nothing can be worse than desert Mexicans at this point. So you're, you're, you're good.

Oh, there's so much more than that. You fueled Bobby, right? Yeah. Yeah. Just fueled me, but, um, like you've heard of the Westboro Baptist church, correct? So that's like an extremist Christian,

you know, group, right? And I've always felt like, um, yo Christians, check your own people. Like I know they're not a part of your denomination. I know, but they're under the umbrella of Christianity. Just check it.

You know what I mean? So go and take care of your business. And you know what I mean? Cut that shit out. You tell, you're saying that Christians should, should, um, condemn the Westboro.

It's like when my brother and I went to, when my brother and I went inside, remember I told you when my brother bought me tickets to the master at the Arclight. Oh, the movie? Yeah. Yeah. The movie, right?

So it was my birthday and he goes, Hey dude, let's go out to the master. That's my present. Yeah, dude. Happy birthday. $14. So yes. So we go there, right?

And we're sitting there and this lady told my brother because he was laughing at a scene that he was, was a laugh at or whatever. And then he started like doing elbows to her face. Like, but not, not touching her, but inches like fake elbows.

Like he was going to, he was going to like, you know what I mean? Bloody her up. So then I grabbed his hair and I dragged him out of the theater. Oh, big brother. Like 12 minutes into it.

Right. And then I choked him in the lobby of the Arclight. Wow. If you ever do that again, it's my birthday. You know, you know, and then I wasn't able to see the master. I've never seen it.

Yeah. I was at 12 minutes of it. You're going to check your own people. So you're saying that the, that the Christians should, I think the Christians, what's her name? Phelps.

Yeah. Shirley Phelps. Shirley Phelps. Fred Phelps is dead, I think. And I think Muslims should check ISIS. Muslims? I literally call them Muslims. I call them Muslims.

Okay. What? I'm just going to plead the fifth on all of this. Well, no, I'm just throwing out a, you know. Yeah. Outrageous ideas. Is it? Well, okay.

Well, then what is, what do you do? It's like 1.5 billion people are a Muslim, right? But here you, and this is scattered all over the world. Where do you think ISIS gets their money? I'm, you're saying, What do you think ISIS,

Oh, I said, Okay. This is what I'm saying. Tell me as a person in Indonesia, living in Indonesia, as a woman living in Indonesia, where actually Muslim women are given a whole lot more, quote unquote,

freedom compared to like Muslim women in Saudi Arabia, right? They're actually even elected into power. What I'm, what I'm saying is what can I do as a Muslim citizen in Indonesia to choke out, like choke out someone in ISIS. That's not what I'm saying.

How, how am I going to travel? Kalaila, just listen to me. Okay. ISIS is funded by what oil money, right? This money comes from somewhere in Saudi Arabia from, you know, you know, oil merchants, you know, and it's like these people are,

you know, also Muslims. Can you see? Muslims. There are some Muslims, right? And it's like, you got to check your own people.

So it's like, that's why I'm asking you, if you, if you're, how do I check them? If I'm not, not that lady, not that fucking lady. What I'm saying that,

but there are, there are Muslims in like Saudi Arabia that have a lot of money that they know, you know, indirectly some of their money is going to, funneled into ISIS, right? Check your own shit. You know what I mean?

That should be your number one priority to go. You know what? None of my money. Yeah, but that's intentional. That's exactly what I'm saying, right? So it's like, now what's the bigger question? You know,

the bigger question is, you know, there's some enabling going on in the Middle East. According to vice. Yes. And, and if there's enabling,

then it's like, I understand that I have a lot of friends that are Muslims and I don't know much about the religion. I don't know much about any religion. I think any religion is weird. I think we should go to take a religious studies course in college. Remember we talked about,

I think I'm doing pretty fine right now. Yeah. To be honest with you. All right. You're a product of your environment. Correct? Yes. Like I'm born into a Muslim household.

I probably grew up to be Muslim, right? It's regional shit. You know, it's like, You're making no sense. No, I am. Why, how am I not? I don't know.

I just want to clarify. You're not saying all Muslims are bad. No, I didn't say that. I just want to make sure that people. No, of course I didn't say that. Thank you. Go ahead. I think all religions bad.

Good. At least you did that. What do you mean? I never said anything bad yet. You even have some fucking extreme atheists who just like grind my gears too. Yeah. But anyway,

I mean, you know what? There are, there are people who practice, who are practicing Buddhists who kill other people in Myanmar who, who commits,

who slaughter people. So it's like, you're, there's, there's no perfect religion out there. Everyone's got their own agenda and it's not, I wouldn't say that religion is what, you know, there's this guy, he,

he was on CNN, I don't know when with on, with Don Lemon who basically said like, you know, it's not religion that makes people bad. It's people that make people bad, you know, it's like,

even no matter what denomination you come from, and he used like those, those Buddhists in Myanmar, just, you know, like monks, just slaughtering people. And also kind of just say that,

what black person's last name is Lemon? Have you thought about that? And Don. Don. You know, so it's like, no, you're a black family.

Number one, your last name isn't Lemon, right? And you're not going to name your kid Don. So that dude changed it to that. Stage name. Yeah, he went to,

he was in college, I wanted to do broadcasting. You know what I mean? My name is Tyrone Jackson. You know what I mean? What do, yeah, what do I,

what do I, he probably put a thousand words into a basket, right? And the first one was Lemon. Yeah. Maybe Lyme. And he's like, I don't want Lyme.

I want Lemon. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know what I mean? Don. Rhymes is Ron. Yeah.

Don. Yeah. Don Lemon. You want to talk about, I'm not done talking about this. Okay. I am. I'm going to just say a couple more things then.

Okay. You know, the victims, you know, of these poor families, it's like, you know, everybody's life,

every single life that's taking away, they have, obviously, friends, family, people that love them and that they love, like my parents

and my brother and you Kalaila, not you so much. Okay. Okay. But are so dear to me that like, it's like, if anything like that happened,

it would devastate and ruin my life. And, and that happened, you know what I mean? Over a hundred and what, how many people died? 29.

29 times. You know what I mean? So if you just don't think of it that way. So what I'm asking Isis is like, don't do it anymore. Isis, if you can hear Bobby Lee right now.

Seriously Isis, whoever the guy is, you know what I mean? The leader, just do it. Make pamphlets. You know what I mean? I pass them out.

Whatever you're, I don't know what your deal is, but you're like, you're a murder. You guys are fucking murderers. Bad. Just bad. Really?

Just bad, bad fucking people. You know? And it's like, if there is a hell, then you're definitely going there. I mean, this is, it's fucking awful.

Not in their eyes. But it's just, no, it's, listen, listen, I don't think that morality, morality,

like right or wrong, you know what I mean? Is something that religion taught us. I think it's a born intuitive, you know? It's like a knowing,

you know? Like even if I was a caveman, you know, unless I was like fighting for resources or whatever, right? But I wouldn't kill somebody just to kill them,

you know? I don't think that's right. I think you're wrong. I don't think people are born a certain way or not born a certain way. I think that there's a lot of nurture involved.

You're saying someone is just inherently or they're already, when they're born, they're already predestined to be a particular type of person. I don't think so.

No, what I'm, okay, but yet some people are just born that way, I guess, you know what I mean? But I think that for the most part

and generally is what I'm saying. Like I feel like, you know, I mean, I know dudes that had really rough upbringings,

you know, they had, they were fondled, you know what I mean? Their PPs were fondled with, you know, and, you know, their parents hit them

or they were alcoholics or whatever. And they had a sibling that turned bad and went to prison, but then they decided to, you know, you know, they just

wanted to have a good life, you know, so they went, you know, they did things to improve their life, but it's like, you know,

what's so funny? Nothing, I'm not laughing. Why are you laughing at me? I'm not, I'm listening. I had a thought in my mind and it was like

a completely independent thought not related to what you were saying and I just giggled in the inside. Okay, baby. Yeah, I think you're making fun of me

because you think I'm stupid. I don't think you're stupid at all. I mean, I think that I don't want to have a usual fight that we,

on this podcast. So, No, what is it? No, no, no, I just think that some of your opinions are based on things you don't know about.

Like what? But that's what I'm saying. I'm not going to. No, no, just say it because you just said it. No, I think that I can't continue

unless you say it. That's the general. That's the general idea of how I feel. Tell me what it is. I think that you have very strong opinions for somebody who,

like me, like me, doesn't know a lot about. I mean, we watch the news, right? But that's the extent of our knowledge, something that's already

fabricated and fed to us. We don't individually go out and know these conditions, situations, people. We basically

regurgitate what we hear from the news and we form sort of a superficial opinion. And all I'm saying is that for something as sensitive

of a topic as ISIS and France and all of that, like I usually like to take a step back and say, hey, you know what? I know nothing

and I feel hopeless, but to. There's, okay, I understand what you're saying, I guess, but the thing is

is that there's just obvious things, right? That happened. Okay. Innocent people bought tickets

to see a rock concert. Okay. And they were mowed down by guns and, you know what I mean? Whatever they used, all right?

And they lost their lives. To me, that's has, that's cut and dry. Okay. What ISIS's intentions are or what their propaganda or what they believe

is, you know what I mean? It's a side fact. I don't care what that is. You know what I mean? It doesn't support their behavior. Okay.

So it's like, I don't need to be Don Lennon. All right. I don't need to, you know, be, you know, that dude from

MSNBC. What's the name? Rachel Maddow. Yeah. I just don't like, I just like my, my thing is, people who are very like

xenophobic and who are saying that, you know, I mean, even in Alabama, that mayor saying that he would never allow any like Syrian refugees

and like, I just agree with that guy. That's like, that's why you saying that, hey, like Muslims take care of your own people and like,

I said that about Christians too. Christians take care of that West Baptist church shit because that shit is fucking weird. I mean, when you're like, when you have a group

claiming that they're Christians and they're going to people, like military funerals and protesting that they deserve to die. You know what I mean? That, that's like,

you know what I mean? A bad thing. But what about if they just cannot be contained? Oh, you can contain it. Oh, you can.

Just bomb their neighborhood? Well, we're not going to talk about how we can contain it. No, no, no, no, no, not in that way. But there are just ways to do it. There are ways to do it.

Not in America. There aren't. Oh, there are. There are. Someone needs to poison Shirley Phelps. That's what you're saying.

I mean, they're just, you know, I mean, abortion doctors. So what's the stretch really? You know, I mean,

if you're going to kill like a doctor, you know what I mean? Then I think that that's not a stretch. But anyway, so then that happened Paris. And my heart goes out to

the families and the victims. It's fucking awful. And and then Saturday, we were in Vancouver and we saw the fights, the UFC fights. We almost didn't see the fights,

which was the problem. We, the fights started at 7pm and Bobby's first show started at 7pm. And his, his second show was to end around midnight.

So we would have completely missed it. So our plan was, okay, in the middle of your shows, let's go run to the bar, you know, to block the way. So she makes an assumption.

It's a sports bar. I don't care. She makes it. And we're in Canada. Wouldn't you think, okay, so much Canadians love UFC, the record breaking.

I don't, I don't know that. And, you know, maybe previous to that, to me, they, they like log,

log, log chop chopping. They don't want Vancouver. I just assumed that some, that a bar, at least one TV in this massive bar would be showing the fight. That's all.

That was what I thought was a safe assumption. But this is what, you know, this is what the leaves do. The leaves call. And they go, hey, you made an assumption.

So in between shows, we, I run out of the club. And plus, this thing is not across the street. It's like down a hill. It's like super cold. You know what I mean?

It's uphill. Yeah. But on the way back was up, uphill. And we should, we go all the way down there. It's not playing. Now,

my, my girl, Johanna is fighting. There was 30, there were 32 TVs all showing hockey. Yeah. I nearly lost my shit. And what was even pissing me off more.

That's when you texted me. This is when I texted you. And you know, I had a fury like in my heart was because everyone around us at that time was like, Oh, why don't you just watch the replay or watch it when you get home to California? Or it's no big deal. And I'm like, please,

please get out of my fucking face. It's not history or anything. No, but you know how I, it's like telling somebody not to watch the, the Super Bowl when they're fully and fully invested into that sport all season. It's just, you just don't come to my face and tell me or ask this, what?

Who's Rhonda Rousey? You just don't do that. Just get the fuck out of my face. Find me a TV where I can pay money and watch some shit. Like that's all. That's all I'm asking. So what happened was we went back to the green room. The Wi-Fi is terrible at the comedy club.

I didn't know that he had his iPad. I didn't know because I had my iPad. And we went to fight pass, an app. We just fucking bought it off of that. I didn't know you had your iPad. And we watched it. You know, we could, we,

you made me go down that fucking hill. I ran with you in heels. I know. And so we, we saw, we didn't, we missed half of Johanna's fight at the first round. You would have been stressed out. I was stressed. No, but we saw it, you know,

we saw it after the first kick. Oh. Yeah. So then, yeah, yeah. After, so we didn't see that beautiful kick. And then the second round was, and third round, I mean, it was fucking close. Yeah, it was close.

It was tight. Wait, hold on. Score wise overall, it was not close. No, I think that the second round. First and second were close. First and second were debatable. That was a, that was a 50-45. I'm sorry.

Every round I could justify Johanna winning. Oh, that's, of course. But I mean, like just watching it, you're kind of like, oh, wow, I thought she was going to steamroll, steamroll. No, there's, but that's, that's the beauty about Johanna. And I truly love this about her. And which is what I think Ronda Rousey lacks is a,

is that maturity, the maturity to take your time to be patient. Yeah. She really has that, that, um, yeah, that she's mature about it. And she, she goes into the, the fights with, with a realistic knowledge about her opponent, not underestimating anybody and just thinking, Hey, you know what?

Like even when she was asked in the post-fight conference, it's like, you know, or you, you, you could have finished it or, are you upset that it didn't, you know, you didn't finish it early, early on. And she was just like, no, why? You know, not with a girl like Valerie, a girl like Valerie is a formidable opponent.

I, I, I want to make sure, you don't want to just bum rush your way in there. Yeah. Also, I gained such a huge respect for Valerie. Oh yeah. I mean, she number one is a beast. She's, she's strong. She's very technical.

You know, she's, she deserves that. She deserves that shot. She was game. I mean, there was a, there was a kick that Johanna did in the fourth round, I think where she, where she kicked Valerie's throat. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Which would, I mean, I would have died. I know I would have died. I would have, I would have, I would have died too. I would have crushed my voice box. Yeah, me too. I wouldn't have been able to speak afterwards. And it didn't kill her. She just, you know, she did a face

and then she kind of put her neck like, oh, that hurt or whatever. And then she went back into the fight, but it's like, wow. And the last two were definitely Johanna's and she deserved to win the fight, but that was a tough fight. Did you see Valerie trying to squint or like cover her eye? Yeah. And I think, I don't know if this,

I didn't read anything confirming any type of injury with those fighters, but like that type of squinting and the amount of bruising around her eye, she could have possibly broken her orbital bone. I think Dana said she did. Oh, did she really? Yeah. When he went to visit the hospital,

what happened with you? No, he said that it was worse in the hospital than we saw in the octagon because it had just got increasingly bigger and bigger and bigger, but I don't think that he said that she fractured her orbital bone because, but then that's usually a- Her eyeball fell out?

No, dude, but then those type of injuries are scary because you have a lot of really important nerves. You can detach, you know, a lot of things that, you know, can cause like, you can cause- But if I'm fighting and an eyeball fell out, would they stop it? That's almost an impossibility. You'd have to gouge someone's eyeballs out.

That wouldn't make headlines, though. Bobby Lee's eye falls out. Still does comedy shows. Hey, guys. I mean, people have shit in the ring. And then- That's true. I shit just in daily life.

And then the man- Look, you're one-upping that. And then- Fuck that, I shit daily. And then the man event happened and I told- Oh, wow. This is what happened. I told Kalaila, what did I say?

We were there and on the couch in the green room, tiny green room, just him and I, and he goes $100 on Holly. And I said- Knock out. I said knock out. I said, she's like, she's gonna knock her out. I said, no way.

Wow. Do you know why? Why? Cause you don't like Rhonda's antics cause you also don't like Connor's antics, right? No, no, no. It's not- He actually makes a valid point.

All of this while that Rhonda has catapulted to the top and in the front of, you know, every single magazine, Bobby is the only one who hasn't been sold on her talent. He says- Oh, yeah. He's always been like, you know what, when I see her strike- Oh, it's bad.

It's not commanding. Like I, to me, it still looks like someone inexperienced. It looked like Carla Sparza stand up, actually. Sloppy, right? Very sloppy. It's sloppy. She doesn't look like a striker, which she isn't. Pop, yeah.

You know, and so all her fights before, I mean, I, you can tell that her, you know what I mean? Her submissions are A-list and, you know, she's, her throws are amazing. I mean, she's a very good grappler. She's an amazing Jodoka. Amazing, you know, but, you know, I was never impressed by her striking

and I was just in general the way she's won. It's not that exciting to watch for me. You know, I mean, I'm more of a Johanna guy. I like longer fights. I like technical fights, but, um, but as soon as I saw, I'll be honest with you, I didn't know much about Holly Holm, but you know, when they play that little thing about her,

you know what I mean? And I just said to myself, oh yeah, she's going to beat her. Do you guys want to do a quick breakdown of the Ronda fight real quick? Yeah, sure. We'll break it down in three. Just talk about the technical aspect and what you guys thought about it.

Just the fight itself, not no one, no one's attitude, not the way ins, not nothing, just what you saw. I think Bobby covered it. It was her striking wasn't there. And you know, like it's, uh, there was no pop to anything. And you can see it even like in all her fights. She's lost most exchanges and even the betch fight, it was sloppy.

She has power. She has power, but it was still sloppy. She has tears. You're exactly right. I think that Ronda has like, she has heavy pause, no matter what, because she grazed. I think she barely grazed Beskohea,

but she grazed her in the right part of her head to that. And you know what? There's a good chance that Beskohea really has no chin at all. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So it's like in that sense, she did, she didn't look different. She bumrushed Besh the same way that she did Holly,

except that Holly is taller. She's, she is, she knows exactly how to keep the distance. And she employed a perfect, you know, game plan. She's a boxing pro. All they do is distance. That's all they do is distance and timing and, you know, rhythm. And it's also, she's also a kickboxing pro.

Right? I gotta ask you guys one thing that I noticed. When you watch all the Ronda Rousey's training, like highlight reels, open workouts, what's the one thing that you notice when she's hitting pads? She looks amazing hitting pads. I'll say she looks like a boxer hitting pads. Yeah, but what's the difference?

What is she not doing when you see her hitting pads? I don't watch that stuff because I have a live guys. I mean, just watch the fight. Excuse me, why go back to follow up for? What? What does that mean? That means you play a lot of follow up for. What don't you see her doing?

She puts her head, her chin up when she fights. She does, but when she's at the gym, her chin is down. I've noticed that. The one thing you never see that I never see is you don't see any over footwork. That's the main, when you're standing and you're hitting pads and Edmund is doing his whole, like it looks impressive, right? Looks very impressive.

Yeah, but you, you're not standing in the middle of the octagon hitting pads. You're, you're going, you're trying to chase down someone who's got amazing footwork and years and years and years of working on her fucking footwork. Do you know what I mean? So that's, that's one of the things where like my buddy Matt leading up to this fight, because I knew, you know how last weekend on my MMA minute, I was like, yeah, Rhonda's Rhonda, Rhonda's going to do Rhonda, clinch up, throw her, blah, blah, blah. And I had, you told me first round.

Yeah, I had zero faith in Holly. But I said, but you said, yeah. She would probably make it to the third round and lose because of to Rhonda, but she was going to last a long time. This is why, because I've never, I've watched all of Holly's previous fights, like Raquel Pennington, the girl, Renault. And you can tell that she is a very skilled standup girl. And I've seen her deliver that same KO kick, not in, not in UFC,

but to that black girl she fought. A lot of amateur fights. Right. So she, you know that that bitch has a Mirko cro-cop, like deadly kick. Have you seen her thighs? Yeah. She's amazing, but I always thought that she didn't have any commanding wins in the UFC. That was like, wow, okay. So I got a little bit suede, but my buddy Matt the whole week was like, dude,

she trains with Greg Jackson and Mike Winklejohn. She trains with John Jones. Rhonda will not be able to take her down quite so easy. And he basically, he literally told me he's like, Kalilah, the writing is on the wall. You're being sold a champion with plenty of holes in her standup game. And you're getting sucked in by these sentimental promo videos with this beautiful music that makes you believe she's truly unstoppable.

And this is what he said. He's like, I'm telling you now, and he put money on Holly Holmes. She is, Rhonda Rousey is not unstoppable. And dammit, I wish I had listened and put money on it. I don't think anyone's unstoppable really. Look at Anderson Silva, George St. Pierre. Yeah, the Sarah fight. It's like, you don't know it's, you know, I mean, Johanna could lose one day, you know,

and Claudia Gadelia could beat her. You know, I mean, that's, that's going to be a difficult fight for Johanna. Do you know what her, um, Edmund Taverdean said today, Bobby? He said Holly. Well, first say what happened between the rounds. Oh yeah. So between, after the first round, after Rhonda was gassed, got picked apart in the first round, her coach, Edmund Taverdean said,

the only commentary, the only thing he said to her in the middle of rounds was beautiful work champ, beautiful work. He could have given her some type of technical guidance, but didn't. So everyone sort of like, what the fuck were you doing? I remember Joe Rogan saying, that's fucking crazy talk. What are you doing? Yeah. And so, um, but he, I don't know, I don't know anything about, um, MMA.

I mean, I like watching it, but that's not what I would have said. Yeah. What would you have said? This is what I would have said. I think you lost that one. Good. Number one. You're rushing in like a baby.

Like a drunk baby. Frustrated. Frustrated. And you're pouting, you know, you're going to have to pace yourself. All right. Lean back. I don't know anything about it. Lean back.

Lean back. Wait. Actually, no, no, no, right now. He's saying some, it's all on point. Keep going. Keep going. You're on point, babe. You're on point.

Lean back and choose your moment. You know, and you're going to, and your moment is you got to take her down. Yeah. You can't just keep chasing after you're going to lose standup wise. Good job, baby. I think that Rhonda should hire you as her next one. That literally would have been better than what Edmund said. Like all of that was much better.

But today Edmund said that he doesn't think that Holly home got, got the best out of that striking game. He thinks that Holly home did not outstrike Rhonda Rousey. And it's like, sir, what the fuck are you smoking? Your girl took a nap in the octagon. She is taking a nap in the octagon. Like, what are you thinking? Of course she got outstruck.

She absorbed one of thunderous leg kick, but it has nothing. Let me say this though. I'm going to say this. It's not about, I mean, it is about skill, obviously, but the thing is, is that it's about what she, what's going on in her life. Yeah. All right. She's got, she's starring in a movie coming out, right?

Book tour. Book tour. Right. These are all things that have nothing to do with fighting. All right. It's, it's like when I, we know a comedian that now wants to be a singer, songwriter, and he's going to open mics and he's singing songs. Right.

And what I want to say to this guy is you haven't even conquered comedy yet. But he's conquered bones. I didn't want to. We don't know. Yep. All right. Well, you know what I mean? Okay.

No, but not, you just, no, you just fucked it up anyway. That's anyway. Yeah. So what I'm saying is, is that Rhonda has so much on her plate, right? You know, it's like, you know what Mitzi Schroer told me once, she goes, just do this. I go, what? She goes, fuck acting, fuck commercials, fuck all of it. Just focus on one thing.

She's just got to focus on fighting because that's what she is. And all this exterior stuff. I'm guaranteed right now, if she didn't have a book deal, right? She wasn't doing movies and in her life depended her finances. Everything depended on these fights. She would have won. Absolutely. What was Holly doing?

All she had to focus was on. That's all she has is God. Holly has God, her dad, her husband and this fighting. And that's it. And an amazing team behind her who's just like rallied behind her. But that all revolves around, you know what I mean? Fighting. Yeah.

I completely agree. I think that it's a really, really tough job to be at the top. I mean, you're carrying a weight 10 times heavier than your contender and you're coming into that ring 10 times more tired, 10 times less rested, 10 times more stressed about everything around you. And I think that internally, she had a lot of issues. I don't know anything, but it looked to me and I had, I got the feeling that she had a lot of like internal issues with her camp.

Yeah. With Josie Aldo. Her family wasn't even with her in Melbourne. First time, her family never went. Josie Aldo has been on top for how long? 10 years. 10 years. Okay.

Because the dude doesn't do all that of exterior shit. Not that he probably wouldn't be able to do it because he doesn't have the personality for it. Yeah. But regardless, right? He has his kid, his wife and fighting. That's it. Yeah.

But here's where I feel like I. I know you're about to say, because, you know, and I think that even Rogan says this a lot, you know, it's the common consensus, consensus amongst fighters where it's like, how do I make as much money as possible in the eight years of my fighting prime? And it's like, if I do the Josie Aldo route, right, like, thank God he's been talented enough to stay up top, but he's not quite as, you know, he's just as talented if not more talented, but he's not quite as marketable, but I guarantee you if Josie Aldo had the marketability of Ronda Rousey, I guarantee you that things would be a little bit different

for him. Maybe he wouldn't be a 10 year champion though. Yeah. But that's, you're right. But it's like he also, Ronda Rousey is also richer than him. I understand that. But if that's what you want to live your life based on his money, that's one thing. You know what I'm talking about, you know what I mean, being a master of a craft.

So if you want to master a craft, you know, like I know a lot of comedians that have way more money than I do, right? But it's just like, you know, I don't, you know, they've stolen jokes, you know, I know a lot of dudes that have stolen a lot of bits and jokes and they've gotten to the top. That's not my, I don't want to do that, you know. So here's my question to you. If you were in the position of Ronda Rousey, where it's like, okay, I'm a woman in this sport, I know that I have, I can take two different routes here.

I can focus on being the champion and just organically, you know, you know, make my money that way, potentially not have a book deal, not get into movies, or I could play to my advantage a little bit in a way to where I could, you know what I mean, play the little arrogant girl, play the little compelling girl, you're saying to me that she wouldn't be where she is at without the expendables, without being in the entourage movie. That's what I'm talking about. All these fucking things she's doing, but what I'm saying for you is she made it big. Ronda Rousey is who she is, not because of that stuff.

She is because of her personal, natural personality, but there is a very small window at which UFC fighters can actually make money. They're not making multi-million dollars per fight. So you're saying, she wouldn't have been a millionaire if she didn't do that exterior stuff. Are you kidding me? No. In the beginning of career, she just started getting paid well recently because she was

in movies. No, no, no. The movies are paying her, her endorsement deals, her endorsements, movies, books. You can have endorsement deals. Okay. You can be represented by Red Bull. You're not understanding what I'm saying at all. What no, what I'm saying is this, okay, is Conor McGregor, right?

It's not, he's not, he's focused on fighting. That's it. That other stuff is a part of his personality. Okay. So what I'm saying is, is that Josie Aldo doesn't have that personality or Ronda Rousey is already that brooding kind of like, you know what I mean? She's got, yeah. She's already got all that interesting shit.

You know what I mean? What I'm saying is that she's being stretched. Okay. So it's like McGregor, if McGregor is not doing Liam Neeson and McGregor in, you know what I mean? Irish fight. What an original type. Oh, whatever.

You know what I mean? He's, you know, he's, you know, doing press stuff, right? But I guarantee you, he's doing that his liquid, his liquid, like training and all that stuff that he's doing, you know what I mean? Are you mad at me? No, I'm not mad. I'm trying to understand what you're saying. You sound, I don't, I, it's-

But Ronda had to do all this stuff. You're right. That's why she came the- I'm not saying just the movies and her book, right? It's like, if I'm coming in, let's suppose she was my daughter. My daughter comes into the sport. She's in her 20s. And I know that there is, she's got a window of time at which to propel herself to the

top, both in recognition and name in the sport and also in her finances, right? So it's like, there's only a small window of time that you can really, truly make this money. So it's like, it's not, it's not, it's easy to say, no, you know what, I'm going to turn down that big blockbuster movie. I'm going to turn down that book deal. I'm going to turn down all this media because ultimately I'm not, I'm not just doing a disservice to my bank account, but I'm also doing a disservice to the sport and the reason that

the UFC women's, that the sport of women's MMA has gotten to the degree that it's gotten is because she's put herself in mainstream situations, like movies, like book deals, or else we wouldn't have been so. My argument is that I feel like she would have gotten all that without that. But even the casual fans that don't even know who, if she's winning, right? And me, I've never heard anybody say, Jesus man, that Expendables was so awful. But did you see Ronda? Yeah, but it puts her on the map of regular people's minds.

It puts her in the minds of just regular people, like my mother or like my stepdad, who is like, yeah, you know what? I know nothing about her past as an Olympic judoka, whatever, whatever. But we, they know who Ronda Rousey is. And you know what, that makes, that just elevates the sport for women all the more. This is why I think that whoever is being so fucking awful to her at the moment are pretty limited in their scope or their intelligence of what it is to fucking appreciate someone like Ronda Rousey.

So you think Conor McGregor should do movies and stretch himself? Ah, Bobby, you're not getting the bigger picture, my friend. I'm so sorry, you're just not. You're being, you're being, you're talking about it from like, I love how she gets angry at me. I'm getting so glad. She's getting so ready. She gets so ready and angry because of what, what are you getting angry about?

Who's getting angry? No, I could see your eyes. I know you so well sweetheart. I'm just confused. No, no, no, it's like, it's what you're saying, because this is, this is why I don't understand it, right? This is why I don't. Because here, let me tell you, because you're somebody who doesn't take projects because

you think the money is too little. Yeah. So I'm not understanding why you would, I'm not, I'm not, my, my situation has nothing to do with what we're talking about, okay? Because at the level that I am at, I'm not even, I'm like in, in the MMA world, right? I'm ranked number 62. No one would know me. You know what I mean?

Like I'm like, 62 is a stretch. Yeah, I was going to say, what's the Japanese fight? Japanese, yeah, yeah, no one knows, you know, 68. I only fight in like, you know what I mean, Hiroshima or whatever in some like local gym or fight club. Like nobody would know me, all right? You're, we're talking about at the top level. What I saw, right, Saturday night was somebody that was stretched, you know, and, and, and

I and Connor McGregor doesn't have to do all that and either did Ronda, you know, she could have done it without it and that's a fact. My friend made a point today, um, my, my friend made a point about, um, Rousey's personality and this is the next thing I wanted to get into. It's like, we know that Ronda Rousey has all the mental fortitude in the world to be this like multitasking superstar. She has a book deal, movies. She trained.

She trained super hard nonstop. She's just a hard working chick, right? So, so fortitude, but does she have the mental fortitude slash adaptability to correct during a fight? Because it seemed like she psychologically crumbled in there. It seemed like, like a petulant baby who couldn't grab a toy that they wanted. And then absolutely throwing a quote unquote tantrum, it, it, her emotions were written all over her face.

You didn't sense the way ins, right? Yeah, it was as if all her character shortcomings were like surfaced and it showed in every single second during that fight. And my question is, is like, we've always seen her been this absolute like psychological force and doing psychological warfare into her opponents. But when you see her in that ring, I felt like she couldn't adapt to Holly. It's as if whether or not she just came in with the wrong game plan, she just couldn't adapt to the fact.

You remember when she hit and missed and she landed on that knee and she turned around? Oh my God. It was, that's when I thought, oh, fuck, this is over. This girl. She was probably in Hawaii was sliced alone in some cabana. You know what I mean? Like she's not, you know, she's doing shit. She's not supposed to be doing.

No, but that does not make sense to you. No, what I'm saying is, is that if she was 100% dedicated to fighting, she would have fucking been way more competitive and she probably would have won. That's all I'm saying. I think here is, I'll, I'll offer a differing opinion just because I don't think that Rhonda Rousey, because she's had very quick fights, right? In her career, she's going to win the rematch. I don't think that Rhonda Rousey has been challenged psychologically, like she was here

where it was like in the first round, because she's been so used to just these quick one rounders that she hasn't been tested to, or she hasn't been forced to adapt to new conditions in the, in the octagon. I'm going to bet 500 bucks, both of you, that she's going to win the next one. Can you just, for just two seconds, like, give me a check. She's giving eyes, glitter finish. No, it's because here's the thing, right? When you speak to Bobby, he doesn't listen.

He's already just thinking about what he's going to say that doesn't relate to, to you're giving you insight into what you just said. So I'm trying to actually pose a question to Gilbert that you keep interrupting. So if you can just shut the fuck up for two seconds, that'd be really nice. Boom. My question to you, Gilbert, is what do you think? Is she a girl that, who, who just hasn't been tested in that department? What did it seem like to you?

I feel like she was, I mean, she's been tested to Misha, right? She did one around a half, first time after, so that was a big step. I think, I don't know, first of all, camp, her corner, man. I don't even know. I mean, how can she adapt when her corner is telling her you're doing a great job? Right, that's true. So what does she do? Autopilot, I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing, right?

You're right. He had the opportunity to, to correct her and it didn't, she wasn't being helped. She didn't, she wasn't even being guided at all. So you know, it's safe to say that it's probably, it's, it's probably lack of that. It's probably lack of saying, hey, like get your shit together, but you did it all wrong. But okay, Bobby, you can speak again. How does this all play out from here? What's your, where, where do we see Rhonda?

Rhonda, what is she doing right now? Do you guys want, do you guys think it's okay to have immediate rematch or do you guys think Rhonda should take a fight and Holly should take a fight? I think that, without logistics, I feel like each fighter should take a fight. She has to shoot a movie. Yeah. So that's, I don't want to be, she has to shoot a movie, I'm saying, but they're, they're thinking of waiting for Holly to wait after the movie.

Holly doesn't get to fight for six months and they fight at UFC 200 for a rematch. Yeah. You know what I mean, like, if I was Rhonda, I would just like, just tell the movie, I'm not doing it. I would do the movie still. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. You're fucking mind.

No, I would do to take time off a fight. You should not jump back in. No, she should be, she would should go, she would should go to some hilltop, right? With no people, meditate, right? And just, you know what I mean, figure out what she fell in love with fighting. Get love for it, figure that out, and then just in her head go, I have to win. That's actually a really good advice. I have to win.

She needs time off. But what he said right there, like saying, like why you fell in love with something to begin with, without all the bells and whistles of everything you've gotten from the sport, but really just like dig deep and say, like, why, why did I do this to start? It was, it certainly wasn't for the money because I mean, most fighters don't ever go in for the money. There's hardly any money there. So it's like, you know what, and here's the thing.

People don't realize that Holly Holmes has been knocked the fuck out before. This is a girl who's been KO'd brutally to where her half her body was hanging off the ropes. And you know what, at 34 years old, she enters at she, she comes into this big grand arena and knocks out a champion. So it's not over for Rhonda. Oh, absolutely not. You know, and I think that it just happened on such like a public and huge scale.

I mean, yeah, so it's a little bit tougher for her because it's, it's weird. She's had the best year of her life and the worst because everything leading up to Saturday has been fantastic for her. You know, it's like she's being, she's, she's probably the richest she's ever been. Yeah. And, um, you know, it's like, uh, yeah, man, everyone gets knocked down at some point. What did Rocky do when he fought Ivan Drago? Persevered.

What, what did he do? What did he do? He went to like some cat. Oh, he did the crazy. Lock cabin. Right. Like go to Big Bear or something. He had all those people around that little, like, whatever, that it was like a thing where

he was lifting them up and they were sitting all at once, yeah, sitting on it, you know, he ties some shit in the snow and started, you know, that's what she's going to do. Yeah. I think that she should also kick back a little bit on the, um, arrogant scale. I don't know. I think she still keeps it. No, this, no, this humble, this, that's what I'm saying. What I wanted to say is, is that that, you know, when she woke up, you know what I mean,

Sunday morning, right? The pain and suffering of what she, you know, that happened all came, it was like a wait, you know, and, um, you know, and she has to live with that. And the only way to get out of that, in my opinion, is to win. She has to win again and she has to beat Holly home. And so it's like, for me, I mean, this is not even compared, compared, but I did a show in San Jose called, um, the doghouse comedy show and it was 20,000 seats and, um, Leslie Jones, you know, I had to follow her and she destroyed so badly that I got booed off

a stage with 20,000 people. What was this? This is like maybe six years ago, like literally like 20,000 people booed me where I was supposed to be to 20 minutes and I ended up doing two or three minutes. I couldn't stay up there because I was just being pelted. What? Yeah. So when I went backstage, I, my first thought is, Oh, I'm going to kill myself.

You know what I mean? Yeah. That was so embarrassing, you know, and, and then I remember being in my hotel just laying there all night and everyone was parting cause I think, yeah, Chappelle was on the lineup. Um, the urban, yeah. And um, and then I remember saying to my agent, cause he was there and I go, cause the next week, the same exact lineup, we were doing it in Irvine at the spectrum. And I go, you got to get me out of that.

He's like, no, you have to stay, you have to kill. You have to kill. So that whole week I just, in my head, I was like, I have to kill and I killed and it, it took away the, the bombing a week earlier. You know what I mean? And then also I was like, you know, proud of myself that I persevered and I mentally got through whatever that was. You know what I mean?

Because it was so embarrassing. It was a real bottom for me. And so, I mean, I know that's nothing compared to what Rhonda is going through. But you know, I feel like it's similar, similar enough. You know, I think that she needs to win because she, because the only way she's going to get through it is to went beat Holly home. Like GSP did with Sarah. And then if you see that second fight that she, Matt had no chance against GSP.

You could see a man, right? Literally going, this is never going to happen again. And Sarah knew it in the ring. You could see, between the eyes, you could see his eyes like, I'm going to lose this. That's the biggest point, the biggest takeaway point for, for anybody, I mean, whoever watches any type of combat sports or actually any sport at all, it's like, look, dude, like undefeated doesn't mean you're a champion. A champion means you've seen it all, fought them all, even lost a few, but always come

back and, and, and, and prove otherwise. You know what I mean? So it's like, to me, a champion isn't somebody like Mayweather. Like I think that he's a very skilled fighter, but I don't think that he's ever going to go down as the greatest of all time, like not in my book, maybe in other people's books. Oscar Delahoy doesn't think so. I know. But yeah, like, you know, I, here's, here's my, my, my opinion about Rhonda.

I do think that she's a little bit of a strange girl. Like I think that she is sort of a crazy person, but that's why we all love her. Likeable, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember watching her in the, in the ultimate fighter as one of the coaches. Crazy. I remember her like basically threatening Misha Tate because Misha Tate was celebrating her fight, her own fighters win.

And then Rhonda saying, how dare you smile at my, at, at, at my, um, my fighters loss. And Misha Tate was just celebrating, right? And so it, Rhonda does appear in like certain, like she does have some unlikeable traits about her, but I think that's all the more why she's compelling and she stirs people to either love her or hate her. The girl has basically, yeah, but I wanted to say this though is like, you know, years ago she was at the comedy store for a couple of nights. She hung out.

Is that chill? Yeah. And this is before she was who she was and she, Rogan brought her, they came in the same car and stuff. And, um, she was so cool. Like literally like what I know of her now isn't what she was then. She was a young girl, right, who was on her way up. This is like right when, from Invicta, not Invicta, but whatever, strike force to UFC

and she was, um, super cool. Like we talked. I mean, she was cool with every comic and she was, I mean, I don't know, I can't base it on just that couple of times I saw her, but my feeling was that she was just an excited girl about what is my life going to become, you know, and then when all those distractions and those carrots and, you know what I mean, and the gold and the diamonds, when all that gets in the way, it deludes the mind, you know, and it makes one crazy. She needs to like, when I say Rocky Ivan Drago, I'm not kidding.

She needs to go back to her roots, right? And figure out what, you know what I mean, find the love again for it. So it's like, you know, I don't think that's her. I think that she is, you know what I mean, a young girl who is, um, a nice person. I think that, um, I think that you're right. And I think that even today, if you love her or hate her, you have to realize that Holly Holm would not be getting the recognition that she's getting right now without Rhonda. I think Rhonda almost single-handedly built that stage for women.

She did build it. Yeah. And you know, I, I'm sorry to say that a meek and quiet girl like Holly Holm, without Rhonda Rousey ever being in a mix, would never be a superstar. Never. Not by herself. Unfortunately, but it's, it's like you just, she's, she's almost like, she's perfect. She's a perfect Nancy.

Like she just, she can't, right? It's not, it's not interesting enough for us. She's not flawed. But it works now because Rhonda built this stage. She can't be that person. Rhonda is now like a Billie Jean King. Like she is one of those women in sports history that's going to have, if they were going to have a chapter a hundred years from now, she would be a chapter.

She is that influential and she opened Dana White's eyes to women in fighting. You know, there would be no women division without her, you know, because she was the catalyst that drove him to go, you know what I mean? Oh, I see the light, you know? So it's like she is extremely important to that, that sport. And anyone disrespecting her, cause I've been reading comments on Instagram and like you loser and whatever, whatever it's like, how fucking dare you. And also just FYI, I want to say this.

If you're a fucking, if you, you're a bus boy, no, listen, and you're a valet, you know what I mean? Some plays and you're smoking pot. You can't get chicks, right? And you jerk off all night to teen porn like I do, you know what I mean? And then you're late night commenting on someone like Rhonda Rosen going, you're a bitch and the loser, you're the loser. Okay.

No, 100%. You know, I feel like anybody that has anything foul to say about somebody that's taking huge risks and walking through that much fear and you're ripping them apart because they tried their best and they lost, you're a fucking loser. And also it's like all eyes are on her, right? So we can sit here and say, oh, she lacks maturity or she's all, you know, she's, she's arrogant or she's this or that. It's like, look, if we were in the spotlight too, it'd be easy to count at least 10 character

defects of mine. Like I, there are a lot, I have a lot of demons myself. So does Bobby. So do you. So does everybody. But it's, we're just not in that spotlight to be picked apart, you know? So it's like, at the end of the day, whether you love, love her or you hate her, it's so hard to see a champ go down like that and watching it almost doesn't feel real.

It's like when I watched her go down, like my body wanted to reject the truth. Not because I absolutely loved Ronda and it's, it's like, it, you just don't expect it. It's not what you anticipate to happen because she is so just profoundly like, just, you know, we've, we've never seen her vulnerable. So it's like, you step out of reality so much, you start to have crazy thoughts like in my head, Gilbert, I'm not even kidding you. I thought like, no, no, no, it's not over. She's going to put her hands together.

She's going to have a ball of fire and she's just going to Hadouken. She's going to fucking Hadouken Holly right now. Like that's how much I bargained with reality because it didn't seem real to me when she went down. Yeah. Like it's almost like I felt so unsettled. Like I'm like, I need to have like a round table discussion and debrief because all that came out of my mouth for 10 minutes straight was, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

And via text as well. Right. That's all I, that's all I could write. That's all I could muster at the moment. I was that like, oh fuck, like even if she had lost her decision is one thing, but that was a fucking like thunderous collapse. You're like, holy fuck, you know, I'd like to do a prayer. I can pray.

If you don't mind, go ahead. Do you mind, baby? No. Okay. Dear Heavenly Father, please, bless the victims of the Paris incident. And, um, take care of them in your room and, um, also put Ronda Rousey in your room and carry her. And his womb?

I don't know. Whatever it is. He's a male. Oh, wait, hold on. He's whatever he's ambiguous. Oh, God can be a woman. He's sexually ambiguous. Right.

2015. He has a womb, a uterus. You know, like in terms of the, I'm not done with my prayer, guys, you guys are fucking it up. Sorry, God. I swore. Oh, wait, dear Heavenly Father, do this, the footprints of the sand. So there's one pair of footprints and you're carrying Ronda and the Paris victims.

And then, um, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. That was it? Yeah. We were, that was not just it. That was good. So just, just say that was good. That was good. So we're praying.

No, don't question it. We're praying for the world and Ronda. Yes. That was a really sweet prayer. Thank you. You know that, um, on our way to Vancouver and on our way back, we had sort of a rocky flight and, um, sometime during the flight or on the way there, we had bad turbulence and some lady in the back, seriously, you know, there's always one person when you get turbulence

on a plane that makes it worse for everybody. Yeah. There's always one fucking bitch who always just either screams at the top of their lungs or like on our way back, some lady was like, what is going on? Like she was freaking out. No, she did this. I was sleeping, she goes in and she goes like, what? Yeah.

Like scream like that. Scream at the top of the lungs. What is happening? Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I heard. I'm like, what the fuck is happening? So Bobby and I were laughing like he's laughing so hard because it's always that one person

who like just gets too hyped up over some turbulence, you know? Yeah. And I was thinking to myself, like truly, if the plane is crashing, like what would we do? Like what would you do? Like what would be a reaction if the pilots like, um, you know, with, I mean, he probably wouldn't be like, we're going down guys, but you started to really feel like you were in trouble.

I don't need new fears. You know what I mean? I don't want to think about, I mean, that's the most horrifying thing. Um, maybe I'll pass out and then shit my pants and then cry and then do what the lady did. I don't know. But I know it's not going to be like, oh, I'm going to accept it. We're not going to have final words to each other. We're like, no, I would probably try to like try to create a parachute with other people's

clothing. What is Bobby Lee doing? He's just trying to tie clothes together. Yeah. He's like punching the window or what, and I would like, I would probably, I'm being honest with you. I'd probably look at other people and go, what's going on? Like ask them, what's going on?

What do we do? I don't know, man. I don't want to try to fuck one last time while it's going down. No, really? I feel like your natural response would just to be like randomly get naked. No, that would be so petrified. I don't know. I don't know.

Baby fuck, man. That's a new thing now. Wow. That's a new thing. Unhelpful advice with Bobo and Coloco. This is from Marie, I'm Filipino with a good career and make a decent living. The problem is my family sees my earnings and success as community and I'm always expected to give this or to contribute to that.

This seems to be common in the Asian community. I've worked very hard. I'm becoming resentful at my family for always asking. My family came to North America when I was nine. So it's not like I made any promises to anyone back home that it would help them out. When does my debt to my family stop? Thank you. Okay.

Well, never because you're Filipino and it just seems to be like the fucking my, my, my, my thing. I'm sorry. No, it's just because I understand, I understand her so much and it's the same frustration that I have with my family. And I always, my sister and I always talk about this where it's like, how the fuck did we become responsible for giving money to people who are older than us now and their families right?

But it's almost like this unsaid obligation and responsibility that's been instilled in you from the moment you're told that you're leaving for the United States. It's like I left when I was 15, right? But in your head, you're like, no, like they always tell you like, oh, when you get, you know, when you make money there, like, don't forget about us. And let me tell you, they, they make sure you don't forget about them. Do you know how many Facebook messages or how many times I get hit up during the week by cousins fucking who basically, I understand that life in the Philippines is really hard.

Like the, the, it's tough to make money even, even you make more at a call center than you do working as a nurse, sometimes even working as a lawyer. It really is that tough. My, my sister back home as a nurse, her husband is a lawyer and they, they just make ends meet, you know, and it, I, I end up, my sister and I end up having to help them and their family still if, so it's, it's not that they're not pulling their weight there. It's your, your, they live in a third world country where even jobs that, you know, would equate to being like successful over here is not this, it wouldn't equate to being successful

over there, you know, and it's, it's, it's sad to say that you should probably cut them off if you're not doing it from, from out of the, out of the want to do it. If it's not coming from your heart, don't do it because you're just breeding more resentment for me and my sister. We're at a point in our lives where we want, I have nieces and nephews who are very young and that's where most of our money is going. So we see it as, okay, it's for them, not for the adults, but hey man, the fucking the adults I'm sure get, you know, pocket a good amount of what we, we send back home.

So it's really frustrating and I feel you, I haven't found the solution yet. All I know is that I understand your resentment so much and I, I, I, I can't, when I find a solution to it, I will gladly share with you. And I think it's just mom, dad, brother, sister, that's it. That's family. That's it. My mom, my dad, my brother is his family. Anyone outside of that, no money.

Yeah, but you're raised in America to live in a nuclear type of family, right? In the Philippines. No, I lived with my cousins. They lived in my house. Right. It's okay. Then it's not, it's not. They don't get no money.

They still ask. Yeah, but they're also, they're also living in America. So fuck them. Then they need the money. Yeah, but I'm saying, what I'm saying is, I don't respond to them. I don't even, you know, they, if they go, Hey, I need it. The only time remember my, one cousin, I'm not going to say names. One cousin because he's my favorite cousin and he didn't really ask.

I just kind of went, God, you know what I mean? Also cause he's a super decent, he's a decent kid and I really love him. So I, him, yes, my brother, yes, my parents, yes. I send my parents money every month. They're old. They fucking did so much for me. You have to. You have to do it.

See, that's an issue. You have reciprocity. That's why you're doing it. And I think it's wonderful. In this, in her case, Gilbert man, I can't tell you how much of an issue this is with my own family. Remember, like my mom has 10 siblings, right? So I have, you can't, you can't imagine how many cousins I have.

I'm sorry. I don't want to be confrontational with you, but the thing is, is that you do, you respond to people. Why do you do that? Because my, I, for the hope that they're just trying to say hello because I'm their cousin, you're going to make me like break this sensitive subject for me. My issue with my family, I guess, back home is that like, they don't say hello just to say hello.

It's always like, do you have money? Do you have a handout? And like, I keep responding, thinking that, no, these are people I grew up with. Of course, they just want to say hello, but they don't. And it's like, there's, at the end of a conversation, asking how you are, it's always like, oh, can you help me with this? And it's like, fuck, could it just have ended with how you're doing? And I know there's always a hidden agenda.

And it's like, I don't, I can't find my way out of not responding because these are people I genuinely care about, but I started, I'm starting to realize that, no, yes, we grew up together, Kalayla, but they now they're just hustlers. We're hustlers. We're related, but they're hustling you. And you know, and it, it, it might, I don't know why I continue to try to convince myself that they're good people. But the truth is that no, some of them are drug abusers.

Some of them are shitty husbands and they just take the money and they run and you don't hear from them until they need your money again. And so you know what, Marie, don't perpetuate that cycle. If you, if you feel like they need it and you want to do it from the bottom of your heart, do it. But if, if you're starting to feel like they're just doing it for the sake of handouts, because you, they know that you're going to give it, fuck them. I know it's family, but fuck them.

It's time that, especially the Filipino community, let them, let them grow, let them strengthen up and fucking figure that shit out. Like it's, it's, it's fucking like maddening. Marie, no. There it is. That's it. No. I just want to, one last thing before we close out on this Friday, I'm doing a mad TV reunion

show on the CW. I'm really depressed about it because I'm super depressed because it's, it's just one of those things where it's like, I thought that I would do that in a man 20 years from now or whatever, you know, but this is like, it just feels like, because I look at like what I've accomplished from mad TV till now and I haven't accomplished as much as some other ones, you know, like he and Pio and Ike and some of these people, Alex Borstein, you know, and I feel like a fucking loser. I really do.

I feel the loser. Why didn't you say no? I didn't do it. I have to do it now. Why? Because it's like, Mike McDonald texted me is like, you have to, everyone's saying you have to do it. I have to do it.

Is there anyone not doing it? Yeah. Yeah, he and Pio. He and Pio aren't doing it. Okay. And that's fine, you know, but Arden's doing it. I think Flanagan, I mean, people are doing it, right? But I think Ike's doing it, but it's just so fucking depressing because I had so many

games when that show ended. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I literally, like, oh, this is going to, you know, something, things are going to happen. And it just really never did for me. And you know, I had an audition today, some movie audition, I'm like, just waiting in

the lobby. Like this is, you know, this is what I've been doing for the last, let me show was canceled eight, nine years ago, you know? So now I'm crying. Don't cry, baby. I'm going to fall out. So tell us all the joy that's brought into your life because I know you're going to hate this with people like me.

We grew up watching you. So it'd be exciting to see. Yeah. But what does that do? Well, for me, it's going to be fun to watch. Listen, like I was in Vancouver. I sold out all the shows, you know, and people go, well, you should feel good about that. And I do.

I feel great about my fans. They added an extra show. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. And I love doing it. I'm just saying it, you know what I mean? Just a statistical standpoint, really, you know, I look at the stats, is that what stats

means? Yeah. Yeah. So I just compare stats. That's all, you know, and it's human nature. But anyway, this is an interesting podcast today. I think that you should at least give us a little bit of feedback to fall out since you've been playing it all week and it just came out.

How happy are you and how much on a scale of one to 10, where do you rate it? I know that you haven't played Destiny at all. That's crazy. It's crazy. It's been fully replaced. Once you stop playing, it's kind of your... And I know that Steve, his brother, has been busy and fall out now for. Yeah.

And then Eric Griffin texted me today, I kid you not, you're dead to me. Because of the Destiny fall. Yeah. Wow. Is it that great? Is it you're dead to me? No, it's not that great. It's...

It's what you like. It's not even what I like. The game is exactly like fall out three, but with some added features. It feels the same. You come in gross. You immersed in it. Yeah. No, it's not that.

It's... Oh, wow. In Destiny, I suck. And everyone sees that I suck. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? I'm at the tower. Some dude that has better raid gear, better Osiris gear, stands next to me, and I'm like,

oh, I just got the regular faction stuff on. Right? He's probably just wearing a cloth? Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like I spent a whole year playing this game, and that's all I have. And so with fall out four, nobody sees what I have, and it's just my own little fantasy. And I enjoy that.

Is there no multiplayer component? No. You can't play with Steve? No. And I don't want to play with Steve. And he's playing with a character that looks like me and her name is Kalei. Yeah. Nice.

And we have a dog, and I actually enjoy watching him play, because I can at least be a part of the decisions with like building the home, the core, the tertiary wares. Yeah. No, but it's a vast world, and it's like, I just think that Bethesda or any other games, like Oblivion Skyrim, all the fallout stuff, it's just so good. And I, you know, people hate it. Some people online hate it. They think it's repetitive or, you know, the graphics aren't that great or there's too

many glitches, but I just love it so much. I see through it, you know? So anyway. Do you see yourself going back to Destiny ever? Well, tonight it's, there's the reset is tonight, the weekly reset. And I know that Eric's going to want to do the, the hero strikes and the nightfall. But I'm like, I don't have any interest. But if he texts me and goes, yo, dude, you know, I swore to fucking God, I'll never talk

to you again. If you don't do it, then I'm going to have to do it. Yeah. Just because I'll take an hour or two hours, you know what I mean? So. Anyway, guys, this is, it was a crazy week. I'm at the Brea improv coming up this weekend and my man Gilbert's going to do Saturday night.

Second show. Second show. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. What? You're going to be there, right? Yeah. But you're going to be fired.

I know. I'm not fucking around. I know. Okay. And you're going to bomb. Okay. And it's going to be. You know, he's accepting everything.

You know, he's just saying, okay, but when on a car ride conversation, he was, he actually said he wouldn't. That's how faith in him that he wasn't going to buy it. Great. And I'm so great. I, I'm so happy to hear that because the thing is, is that, you know, it'll just be a packed room. You know, you know, I finally experienced the open mic run and oh my God.

I don't even know how, if you were a standup, I don't even know how a young standup even grows from this environment of open mics, maybe the weirdest thing ever. Maybe you're going to feel the way Rhonda felt this past Saturday, all that expectation, all that anticipation of doing well, and then just like plummeting to the ground and full collapse. Well, the expectation doesn't mean bombing though. No, not within yourself. I understand.

Not with the whole Twitter universe. Thanks. And also Gilbert Gilbert. Can I say that's right? Yeah. When you're bombing on stage, you're going to feel it and the things are going to feel isn't going to be most, it's going to be mental, but it's going to be physical. You're going to feel the sweat, the trembling, the mouth drawing, the confusion and the embarrassment

because they're going to be beautiful women in the crowd, right? Wearing short skirts, hot as fuck. Okay. I'm attracted to penis. It doesn't bother me. And they're, and they're looking at you going, oh my God, right? And it's going to drive your soul apart. This brown guy is failing.

Failing. So anyway, just good luck and I'll see you Saturday night. All right. Thanks for listening to Tiger Bell, everybody. Bye. You guys, please subscribe to, um, please subscribe to our show on iTunes and leave a review. You can find us on Instagram at Tiger Belly on Twitter at the Tiger Belly. Email us all your questions at thetigerbellyatgmail.com as Bobby said he'll be in Brea this Friday

through Sunday, right? November 20th through the 22nd. Any other shows after that or? Uh, yep, Webster, New York, December 10th through 12th, and then Fort Lauderdale Improv December 17th through 19th. And I think we also have, um, our website up now, right? I love it. Just news to me.

Whoa. We have a website. What's the website domain name? This super kid from Melbourne, Australia named Adam Brock, um, has taken it upon himself to, um, create our website for us. I've never met the guy, but he seems super cool. He's like, fuck it. Let me do it for you guys.

So yeah, I, it's, um, the tigerbelly.com. I think all the episodes are uploaded. Um, we're still going to try to figure out a way to, I don't know how to, I don't know how this works. So that he's our, he's our tech guy and this website is up there, but it's not like this is the final website. We're still growing. We're still learning things.

We're going to start adding video components down the future. So don't feel like this is it. It's literally their podcast from iTunes transfer to a website. We're going to have merch up eventually and then we're going to announce, um, um, giveaways pretty soon. So, uh, thanks. Givingaways. Thanks.

Thanks. Giveaways. Is that what we decided? Yes. I'm giving out my virginity to any lucky ladies out there. And after he, because mom, I'm a virgin if you're listening, after he loses his virginity, um, or actually no, after we hit, um, half a million subscriptions, um, Gilbert is going to, um, um, allow me to circumcise him.

The home circumcision home circumcision using a book book method that we do in the Philippines where we basically, we pull your foreskin, your schmuck all the way and we put it on like a little stick and then I get a hatchet. Oh, I'd like to pass already. And then after that, I, as I'm simultaneously, as I'm doing that, I'm chewing on guava leaves. So like after I cut your foreskin off, I'm going to pack it up with guava leaves. And then there's no river here. Usually the kids.

The LA river. There's no water. There's no water. So usually the kids all jump in like the river afterwards. So you hear that guys? Klyla's alive. I was going to be under my foreskin. I'm going to shove guava leaves into his little dickhole.

So you guys really make this happen for us. I'm periscope. It's going to be a live event. And, um, um, so half, when we get to half a million, this is a promise and, um, God, please don't say that. I need that on paper, Gilbert. So you're going to have to commit to it. It's going to blow up.

I read it. It's going to be a live circumcision. I'm going to actually just start to go fund me for all my, like, um, equipment. Oh God. I want a really good hatchet. What do you mean? All you need is a hatchet. Guava leaves.

I want imported guava leaves. I don't want that bullshit, like, like Central America guava leaves. I want Filipino guava leaves. That's what I want. Authentic. Yeah. All right, guys. Well, thank you for listening.

And we will see you next week. Bye, y'all, and I'll see you later. Bye.