TigerBelly - Episode 141: Jamie Kennedy & The Shift
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Five four three two one blast off
What's that space
You've never done that before when you go
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, it was space. I was trying to guess and the space
It sounded like some sort of fucking Filipino thing is that you know, that's how we talk Filipino voodoo
And all of a sudden like, you know. Oh, yeah, that's good. That's it. That's it
Welcome to the another episode of
Um, I'm your slept king. Yo, what's up, dude? You know, I'm urban Bobby too. What's up, brah? What's up?
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, I do. No, don't do that. Don't make that face. Okay. So we got Gilbert here flat face
So love them flat brown and beautiful. We got
We got colloquial I love my girlfriend my life partner. Mm-hmm. You mean fuck. Yeah, bro
Mm-hmm. We got this white piece of shit right here, man, and I'm on to you, man
Right, you're fucking desert wide, bro
You know, I mean a desert the desert white as far away
Yeah, but they're a shifty out there in the Mesa in them, right? They're like plateaus. They're cooking up stuff, right?
They're in trailers
You know and he's got his fucking shady cousin right here, man. Oh damn Bryce whose name is Bryce
That's fucking plateaus shit, bro
Shit the fuck up, man, I love you. I love you, man
But we got a very special guest
I'm just gonna throw out some of his credits. He's in a new movie on Netflix called tremors to
six
Say that wrong number. No, I thought there was only one tremors. No, that's five before. Okay, so my bad
I told you not to talk. I know but I yeah, yeah, but um, I won't say go back. He was in a
Lot of movies Malibu's most wanted
Scream, but he's a one of my favorite movies all-time bowfinger great fucking movie. Don't you love bowfinger?
But I kind of just say this though
I was in a not yet
Okay, and I was in a movie with him called kicking at old school and that's how I met Michael Rosenbaum
that's how him and I became friends and
Jamie basically got me that movie. Okay, so give him a round of applause Jamie Kennedy
Everybody clap your hands. Now you can fucking talk. Yay. What up, buddy? Yeah
Weird I was scared like you're like don't say anything until
Yeah, but now you're talking. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, and I complimented your ears. I like your ears appreciate that
You're welcome pointy. I want to tell you something how so he was doing this movie kicking old school
And I remember reading and I thought I was okay, but the guy like the producers didn't want me
And then you made it happen. You're like come in one more time
You're gonna read it from this guy, right? And I remember you being like super like
Just careful. You didn't say it. You really wanted me to get it
So you're very clear when you're reading it with me and then when I was saying my lines
I remember you kind of saying the lines, you know me mouthing mouthing it with me because he doesn't want me to fuck up pageant mom. Mm-hmm. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of the lines and then
Next thing I know I get it and I want to say this
But all of my career and I haven't had that big of a career. It's been okay
I've done great stop. That's fine. No, it's fine. But I'm just saying that that
Shooting that movie was by far the best time. I've ever had in any movie or TV show of all time
Really? Yeah, I'll tell you why I want to hear. All right. It was shot in Vancouver. Yeah
We're staying at the Sutton Place. Yeah, and that's when he still insists on staying at the
Sutton Place. Yeah, because of that way. He has fond memories of
Oh, damn, you gotta tell me how I do. I had a great time. Yeah, the Slutton Place. This is the Slutton Place. Yeah
And here's another thing. It was when Oblivion came out. Oh
Elder Scrolls, right? So there were like days where I just didn't work at all
But you know, you're still out there shooting the movie
So I just I bought an Xbox question and I just never left the Sutton Place. I just the drapes
Oh, yeah, that's what you were doing
Yeah, well you think I was jerking off the whole time. Yeah, it was times we could not get you. Yeah, I know. I know
Really? Yeah, that's what I was doing. Wow. What did you think I was doing? Horn it up? No, yeah, it was your sober
Yeah, but you were just you know, it was like you're well you get very high energy
And then you like I can relate to that and then when you sleep you want to you're dead
So I thought I thought maybe he's just chilling but there were times where you wouldn't come out
Yeah, I wouldn't come out at all. You would not come out and I didn't know that you were elder scrolling it
Yeah, I was elder scrolling it and also how yeah, you know, and then also kind of just say this
Tell me I want to know why it was a good time
But I'm listening because on when you're shooting first of all when you're shooting with that group of people
There's just I mean, I'm sorry, but there's just no pressure. Yes. I agree. No, not in a bad way. I just felt
I felt comfortable. Yes, and I was with friends and even like Maria Manuno. So it was super nice. She was in it
We have pictures. Yeah. What's her name, right? Yeah. Come on. You know her name Manuno
yeah, yeah, and
I met what was that one break dancing coach? We had. Oh, oh Shaba
Shaba legend. That's legend Shaba do Shaba do do. Yeah, Shaba legend legend legend. He's oh, he's turbo. No, yeah, something
No, he's ozone. You guys know ozone?
No, bro, Mesa, you don't know ozone
This is what raised me. Okay. My one of my first probably Beach Street was like my first hip-hop movie I ever saw
Probably breaking was second and he was the dancer great-looking guy. He was ozone
He was a store of it. And did you guys have to go through like a dance boot camp?
Big time big time
So I wanted to do this movie and I had these other dance instructors from another movie and they said yeah
That's not our thing this dude. And so we went into a dance boot camp. We actually got a pretty good synchronicity ish
Yeah, I guess
But it was intense, but keep going. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, and then so I'm not gonna talk. Yeah, say whatever you want
Oh, I didn't know you said don't yeah. No, no, I know at this point a fucker. Yeah at this point
You can say whatever you want. Okay. Yeah
So we did the movie and I created like like I became friends with him. I became friends with
Rosie and I became friends with a couple of guys even that what's a fat Mexican that wasn't it?
Are you still friends?
Um, eris great guy great guy great guy. I just call him fat Mexican
Close you guys are close and then he used to come to the comedy store. Yeah. Yeah afterward like after we shot
Yeah, like every day for a year. That's sweet to hang out. Yeah, that's sweet. Yeah, I know, you know, I talked to Miguel all the time
He just texted me. Oh, yeah, Miguel Núñez was
He was what jambalaya man wasn't he was uh, do you want to
Do you
Jambalaya man
Yeah, I love that movie. Jambalaya Cajun theme. You're the Cajun theme, right? Yeah, I saw him on a um airport
The airplane I walked past him. He was in first class. Yeah, and I go, what's up and he didn't
No, yeah, yeah jambalaya man. No
Yeah, so now he dissed you. He just kind of looked at me like no
Oh, yeah, he did he didn't diss me. He was just like that doesn't sound like not a diss
It sounds weird. Yeah
But I go, hey, what's up Miguel, right? And he looked up. He has legs crossed. You know how fancy blacks do that? Yeah
fancy black
Love the fancy. Am I getting in trouble for that? Yeah
Am I getting in trouble for that? It's a cat food brand. Yeah. Yeah
That is true. Yeah
But wow, yeah, it's really quick on the ones and two second city right here second city, bro
That was mit though that yeah, I do
I'll tell you I'll tell you where I learned it the first dbd said I ever bought of a show
Jamie Kennedy experiment. Oh, yeah, he's sneaking in the love
First time bought it. Well, I was telling you last night. I go, um
Because I was watching your judge show on youtube remember I was showing you
Yeah, your characters on there are fucking off the fucking hook dude. Thank you, buddy
No, but not even no, I'm not kidding you. It's not you know, sometimes you watch
Will ferrell do an impression it just still sounds kind of like will ferrell doing it
But you really transform into these things like the jewish lady if I didn't know it was you
I would probably go that's a jewish lady. That's my manager
That's cool. Thank you. Yeah the black man. Yeah, I want to talk to you about that. Thank you
Who's that black man?
No, it's a magulation. Is that the right word amalgamate? Amalgamate? Oh, good one
She got
Amalgamation right amalgamation. Yeah of things of different. So I wanted to do a show
That like spoof judges, right
And so you have a judge judy type. Yeah, we judge judy type of a judge joe brown type
Yeah, you know, there was a show. It was a southern guys. We call one southern justice. We added a gay judge
Hey, yeah, yeah, and so I've been doing it and I've been do I pitched it everywhere
I've never done something where I've pitched it to
You know 80% of the town
Everyone died laughing and go. Yeah
I can't I can't buy this but it's hilarious
Wow, and I had it so then I got it all
Completely with the numbers
I had it budgeted out for like one one so I could shoot
A hundred episodes
So then I would lay it off
So like I was looking at the Tyler Perry model, you know, and there's something called a 90 10
And so you do the first 10 episodes you take a risk if you hit a certain number
They know they're gonna make their money on advertising. They order the other 90. Whoa, that's how you make a move right away
Yeah, and I took that
Everyone's like, yeah, you can't take this shit out. You can't risk it because judge shows are so huge
They don't want to offend their audiences and comedy shows. Don't get it. They go. We don't program judge shows
It's a comedy. Yeah. Yes
Get angry. Yeah. I mean dude. I can't that's I'm I can't with all this. Yeah. Yeah, I've never had people live
So now I'm putting it out there
And now wait, so you shot a hundred. No, no, no, I only shot 12. Uh-huh for very cheap. Okay. Good. They're so good
They're very good. I remember judging me. They're so good. Yeah. Thank you. And we could I could do this
I had this girl be the bailiff. I could mix it up
And I you could you could do it and sell it by the air time. That's what I want to do
I don't want anyone to ever give me notes. I mean, I'll get I do it. I'm there too
You walk in those with you. Yeah, somebody who's creative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't get notes from somebody just fresh out of, you know
Iowa state
All the Iowa state executive. Yeah, I can't brah. Yeah, and it's like well when they give you a note, how do you respond?
Dude, I got mad issues like I've actually eaten so much humble pie my shit. I'm like a muffin top like
and I'm actually
I'm in a pretty good place where I've kind of hit like my bottom
Like mentally. Yeah, and like emotionally
Because let's let's and now I'm I'm actually in this. I know this is gonna sound so corny
Yeah, but I'm kind of
Grateful
Like and I know people really gotta be grateful, but I'm actually kind of in that place not all the time. Yeah, but I'm actually like
Just going through things like just being on tour
Going like wow, I get to my name is on that like the Schaumburg improv. Yeah, you know like Steph
She loves me. She loves you. I'm names on this huge marquee
Yeah, and then like you're coming or Whitney's coming and David Spade's coming. It's like
Oh, I'm really lucky, you know any me right and though if I'm on set and even if it's like for two days instead of like being like
Why aren't I the star of this movie? It's like, you know, I'm lucky because I've been through a lot
so
So that's not that you're saying that but I wanted to go to the executive part
But go ahead but now that you're saying that part we'll go to the executive part in a second
Do you feel then because you there was a point where you were the lead in movies, right?
You were the mask or the second met right the second son of the mask, right?
You did a bunch of shit like that, right? Malibu's most wanted. Yeah, and then thank you for calling it shit
Okay
Dude, Malibu was the biggest cult movie. I know but don't do that to me man. I'm like, I'm with you
I know but I reverse. Yeah, it was a funny joke. I know I know but don't do that to me man. I'm a fucking ally, bro
I know I'm lando dude. I'm lando right here. We'll go downtown. Yeah, we'll go downtown, dude
Okay, yeah, I'm with yeah. Yeah, you're with me there. All right
Elder scrolls do go ahead and go back the way so because I'm going to tell you something I
I never got to where you're at
I never got to a point where I'm the lead of a movie
I've always been you know the eighth gook
You know what you mean classic role. Yeah. Yeah classic in china china china
You're like a movie called china china and he's the eight gook here. It's china china
You have the little lion appears. You're the logo of mgm brow
When we were doing press for our movie, yeah, you were doing a movie and you were you were kind I remember you were talking
Yeah, yeah, I don't yeah, so I'm always so I was never there, but even me
even me I felt
You know me not not sleeping, but just I wasn't getting what I was getting
and then you you have to
shift
Right and you have to not take it personally and shift and go. I'm going to go on the road
I'm going to do YouTube videos and I'm going to do my own thing. Mm-hmm and then
You know you wait back in line
In a couple of three or four years go by
And you you you eat some humble pie. Mm-hmm. It hurts. Mm-hmm. You know, you see, you know, you're openers
You're in it climb and you're like, right? Yeah
Yeah, yummy. Like when I was doing the seventh gook
I was fifth gook and the sixth gook now is now
You know what I mean, right? Like it's so funny because like like for instance when I promoted
Remember we went to san francisco to promote it. Yeah, and you would walk around with a break dancing outfit all the time. Yeah
Right committed. Yeah, and we had to do
You know, we had journalists come and interview us, right right at a hotel
an asian chick
Interviewed me for a magazine
And she goes, hi, I think about doing stand-up. You know how you people she was cute. It's like, yeah, you should you know
Like she would you know
Well that person
Was ali wang
Wow
Okay, wow. So I was last year. I was doing the oddball tour. Wow. Was that with what she's probably just interviewed you
She just interviewed me for some asian magazine, right asian on asian. Okay. Yeah
And I just did the oddball tour with her last year and she was a build above me
Oh, she's huge. She's huge. Yeah, but you know what? Huh?
I don't take it personally. Yeah, my ego doesn't get involved and I just accept it
And she's funny and I'm happy for her
She's a talented girl and I'm happy. I'm just happy. But you know what?
But you have to learn to look at your situation in those
In that perspective. It's so true. It's or you'll die the it's too, man
And you wonder why people get into drugs. You wonder why people get into sex
There's a great quote Robert Downey jr. I was reading one time and he was like when his
Like didn't know if his movie career was gonna go and he said this amazing quote
Hopefully you guys will get he goes. Well, I think I have to audition for a pilot for laura mar
Which back in the day laura mar was like, you know, like this but you did like, you know, these type of pilots
It's like, you know, you want to be a movie star. It doesn't mean it was bad, but it's just like he was in movies
Yeah, and I feel like
I mean, I'll tell you an example. I mean, I don't care if I'm gonna say this
I don't I think this is like the only network that I actually think hates me. Yeah
And it's I shouldn't say this but whatever. It's true tv. Okay. Okay, so we're doing
A pilot. Yeah, okay. It's like five years ago
So you're you're difficult if your movies don't make money
If they make money, you're a genius. Right. You agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean and to me it's not being difficult people aren't difficult
This is where this is the sandbox, man
I have seen so much shit go on that you will never hear from me because it's the creative place
If people fight if they sleep together if they that's what it is, man
Do you agree with that? Yes, and there's so many it's weird the culture shifted in the last 15 years
Where instead of being in it
People are kind of spying on it reporting on it also being in it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, and it's it's not that's not how I came up
I believe that's not how you came up. It was like, you know
Anyway, I'm doing this pilot was called
Guinness world records gone wild
So
Right, so you're hard on right so my age so I I was actually kind of feeling myself. I was
2011 my agent got me a straight offer
He got me a lot of money to do it and if it was gonna go
It was gonna be 10 apps and we would shoot 10 apps every six months. Yeah, it was total mailbox money
Yeah, each you know each app you could buy like, you know half a Porsche, you know
And so I was doing you know, it was a halloween horror nights
I was being honored as the first horror guy like it was just when that was starting to blow up and I was doing it
And I'm like, dude a game show was like because you know, they come around
Yeah, I'm acting and it's like this is before everything was everything
This is before that if you didn't do a job at two o'clock if you didn't do another one of 330
You're out of the business. I mean, that's how it is now. Yeah, so
I get the offer
They close it
They go, dude, you're gonna have the run of this. They want the Guinness world records
But they want that shit fucking crazy. They want the Jamie Kennedy fucking sauce, right?
And I'm like, yeah, so I hear my friend. I hear I hear him. He starts writing for me
I'm getting jokes. I go down and then there's a production company
That are like the physical production, right? And those are the guys that like run the lights
And put everything and make sure you come in time
It's Guinness
World records. Yeah gone wild
Yeah, so they take the most craziest shit
And they do a thing on it not normal one. So one of them was the most bras
That you can unhook
This is a record. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and this guy had like 83 in a minute or something. Wow
And he looked like he had a floppy hat
He laid a beard. He almost had a staff and I said, did you learn that in the shire?
Yeah, he's like, well actually and this network's like, um, yeah, you can't say that that was a little, you know
But so a studio audience was laughing, right? Yeah
Yeah, we did another one with how many cockroaches you could put in
I'm like, did you learn that with other types of cockroaches? You just lose the roaches like
You can't say, you know, I don't remember all my jokes, but I had some good ones and I had some stinky ones
Yeah, and so the whole thing and I love the guy was that they wanted at first Dan Cortez
I don't know if you know that is he's a legend
Dan Cortez was the original MTV great looking guy hosted sports and I said guys
You know, you hired me if you don't want this just call up Dan Cortez. He's right there. He's in Malibu. He already wants to do it
right
As long as we shot dude we did two days we shut down downtown
Do you know noikia that whole area? Yeah, yeah took the whole production over
We shoot this whole thing
Big we did a guy with the car flip. He did three Lamborghinis. So he would flip over one wait the next one flip over one
And they were like the guy was amazing like shit. That's now being done. We did it was seven years like pre-viral, right?
Right long short is I did something and the guy was like, yeah, I don't know if we could do that one
Yeah, and the guy's like the whole that the chief producer was like the rigor. Yeah
Yeah, I don't know if we could try that. Yes
Four times and this was true TV literally they were doing cold cases of like, you know, you know cold case Akron they were doing like live
courtroom
Yeah, they didn't have programming. Yeah. Yeah
And I go and he said something to me and I go I want to do it. He goes well, I don't think we should he goes
I want to do it. No, I think we should I go well, dude
I'm fucking doing it and he goes well, it's just not funny. I go, bro. Do you see those lights?
Adjust them. Do you see the camera work the aperture?
I'll do the jokes with me and Bernie and you worry about the craft service
No, wait, was that too much? No, but it's true TV
It's true fucking TV. I don't care. I'll say it right
Right fucking now. You're true TV. You should let me run wild. It's Guinness World Record
Go on wild and they wanted this shit to be serious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're doing cockroaches
You're doing how many pumpkins you can fucking de-seed
And the whole bro, this is a moment right here, bro ally. I need my homie. Right at that moment
I could feel the energy shift
Executives came over
Nice to me. It was kind of and I said guys and it's just like a badly saying I go guys
You guys worry about Mexicans 18 to 33 demo
I'll do the jokes. Yeah, and I don't maybe it was too. It's a little aggressive, but I like it. But let me tell you back to um
Um pilot for some reason. I didn't get picked up. It was weird
First first job. I didn't get fired. I think I like a no-fire clause. I had like a no-trade Carmelo clause
So like I got a little payout. Yeah, and the next thing I know it was on
Dan Cortez
Not kidding. Oh my god, but have you ever heard and I loved it. Have you ever heard of the show? No, okay?
Here's the thing this is before this is before true TV was discovering all these new talents, but I don't care
I don't know if all these executives are there. Yeah, you tell me if I went too far
But bro, it was like, oh, let's take the funeral channel. Yeah, and I'll do a sitcom
Hire the guy that knows what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah, and fucking let's let's yeah, dude when you're on a set with david ol russell
Bas Lerman Frank Oz and he's like improv improv dude. Do more improv. I just worked with the director the other day fucking
So go ahead. It's just so small. I'm gonna say this. I'm probably making it a man. Okay. I don't
I shouldn't but they should listen look this the weirder the porthole. Yeah, the more notes
It's like you could be doing something for red box pakistan
More fucking notes than you could yeah, I'm a fucking 20th century fox movie. Go ahead
That's you just nailed it. And that's when I went. Wow. I might have to take a fucking little time time out
Yeah, little hiatus because I'm like, dude
What are you?
What's the I sometimes I get a note
And I don't I don't even know what the fuck they're talking about. So I'll just do it the way I was doing it
And then I go, that's it
And you go, I was just doing it. Yeah, like I did it. But okay, you know, I mean they it's every time
Yeah, right. They just here's what it is. They want to exude
They want to justify their job dude and they want to exude, you know mean their thing
Right that I have power and I have a thing to say
So they say it, you know, and it's like
But no, you're fucking lame. Is that bad to say?
I don't fucking I honest to God, I would never tell Roger Federer how to fucking hit a backhand. I wouldn't yeah
Yeah, but it's like if I but somehow
telling comedians
Or writers, it's just like there's no barrier to entry. It's bizarre if it's Aaron. Okay, if it's an Aaron Sorkin project
Of course, right and he goes I want it the way it's written. You know that his
Of writing is at the top level. Of course. That's what he's known for. You're gonna do that. Yes
Well, you're not gonna get hired if you're not gonna do or it's David amendment and everything
Goes in or or if it's a procedural where you have to say this line because it connects to another scene, right? Yeah, yeah
But when you're doing comedy
Dude, but let me ask you this then because about a year and a half ago and I know this channel is popular now
Yeah, I don't think they'll look at me, but I still don't really besides the carbon arrow effect and Adam ruins everything
Yeah, which I do watch those. I like those. I don't know a lot of the other shows
So I don't know but they are making a big stink. So what do I know? Yeah, yeah
But a year and a half ago I was watching I don't know something on NBC and I saw
You know the trailer for or some sort of snippet of the show that you were doing the medical show
Yeah, and I literally well, I don't know who I was with maybe myself. I said to send it to myself in my head. I said
I think that's gonna that's gonna last because I had you it was a medical show
It wasn't a comedy with single camera and it's you but I'll deal hugely as well
And it was like this eclectic group of people that I like
I love DL. Yeah, he's great. He's a great guy, right?
So I just thought that's this is it's medical, right?
What happened?
Did you read for that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you had to read for that was actually the part was very dramatic
It got more playful, but it was a whole huge monologue about a guy who went to
Harvard mad and he was like uh, you know kind of like us. He was eccentric, but he was
A doctor and then he got he got disenfranchised with the system. Yeah, because there's something called triage
I believe this is the correct thing. So three people come in
Who's ever got the best chance of living?
Gets the shot
And it's or and it's also like there's a whole thing of insurance. It's like twisted. I learned about medical like
Some people can't can't get in right away. So
Uh, I've read man, but it was why you why you would love that and what we're just talking about is the whole thing
was done
by people who are
Artist so Amy Brennan. Yeah, he's a great actress. Yeah producer and writer
She was one of the EPs. Yeah, Brad Silverling. He's a big director. He's a writer to Casper. He's done a million movies
He was a pp. Yeah, Jill
Um, who was also another huge writer. I think she was on the wonder years. She was awesome
So everyone was very creative and they really worked like you were saying I had to kick right
They really coached me and so all I did was I did it and then they liked me and they said you're gonna do a screen test
And they coached me for it gave me the best lighting and then they gave that to the studio and then that work
Oh, I didn't even I had to do a screen test
Which was cool. So but that was a dramatic part. So I have to fight more
for stuff like that. Yeah, but what happened was dude, we were the first thing picked up, dude, and then
Scheduling our lead got pregnant. You know other medical shows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's harsh, man. Yeah, it is harsh
It's harsh. Why did I animal? What we're gonna take a cable in it. It's great stuff
Yeah, but you know what dude? It's like, um
You started with but you're an actor as well. Yeah, like you're in boiler room, right? Yeah
Yeah, so you you can do both. Mm-hmm. It's interesting. Did you do you didn't do stand-up even before you became a you became famous first, right?
I did stand up. There's no one knows this and and I know that there's like actors. They get these raps
Yeah, but now every type of group is doing stand-up, but I was actually did stand up first, believe it or not
Oh, wow, but I got more
Notoriety right away from acting but so you would do but you know what's funny
What I got a lot of love is um, it's the factory like I would go up and do these little
You know showcase spots and that's where I got my first commercial agent and then I got my first movie audition
Wow
And so but I was doing like literally open mics and I do a set here and a set there
Wow, I didn't get like on the regular rotation. Yeah. Yeah, but that's how you started then. That's how I started
Yeah, and then I got really busy acting and like for like three years. I didn't touch a microphone
Yeah, you hit a big fast though, right? I mean scream scream is the
I mean, yeah, it was a big movie. Yeah. Yeah, huge
But I mean I struggled for a while
And then like one of the first things I hit it hit but I literally went from zero to hero
I made I don't think it's a might I made no money for like five and a half years had no money
Right every year. I mean remember my tax return was like 9400
then I got a
blockbuster campaign
And one of the stars of it was Jim Gaffigan
Whoa, and that was 94
And I went for 95 and I had made 9400 dollars
and my
Paycheck from that campaign was 98,000
Oh, that was my first like zero to hero and I was like and I had gone probably for like a hundred auditions
Couldn't get anything but that's when I realized the power of business because you kind of don't get paid for the job
You get paid for all the times you audition right and then hit and it wasn't even here
It was a european it flew me to europe. We did all this stuff. Yes. I'm on. Yeah. I do. I'm like that. Yeah
Where you just dude? I made I had zero. Yeah 350
Wow on what IBM campaign
Wow, that's that's huge, but I had to wear a 98 is I had to wear a blue 350 blue space suit
What year was this at IBM conferences?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you had to go to the I had to go and walk around right there was no air conditioning
So like the sweat
I mean it was terrible. Wait. What were you like pre-social media? So that was your social media club
Whoa, who were you?
I was like a juggernaut or something but this is other white dude Eric Kirchberger from new york
He was a commercial actor and he was a tall white skinny white guy like he almost looked sickly
Yeah, you know like meek and I was kind of the short so we'd walk around these conventions and hand out flyers
Dude, I did some the blockbuster campaign. We were the blockbuster entertainment team
Yeah, so they but the whole thing was in europe. So we went to paris
We went to london and they would have those like
Conferences and they would go and bring out the team and we'd be like
Yeah, that's your new overnight card like that's crazy. Yeah, and then they flew in the 90s
They flew us to tokyo. Wow. IBM the president of IBM of tokyo
That's the equivalent of like a social media influencer now
Yeah, you know what I mean? Now you can just post a picture of yourself in a space suit before you'd actually have to attend
Tokyo yeah, yeah, and I met this japanese guy and he
Guy and he goes he was in a suit the older japanese
He goes, uh, what do you do speaking in japanese right and they had a translator
Yeah, and basically he said what it's what are we gonna work and the basically was asking me if I was hungry
Right, but it sounded serious. You know, yeah, and me and Eric look at each other. We go. Yeah, we're hungry
Right and he takes us down these elevators. We eat with this guy. Yeah, okay the the main guy right
We go into a restaurant. There's no sign
It's just like a wooden table with a candle in the middle really dark
Yeah, right we sit down
And you don't order anything. They just start bringing out food, right?
And they bring out a steak. It was a Kobe steak. I never had one. Wow
from japan
It was like butter melting in your fucking mouth. Wow. I remember that meal distinctly
Because it was like because right before that like three weeks. I was living with 12 guys in a two bedroom apartment in silver
Like what year is this 97 98?
Were they comedians? No, no, they were just skaters and my brother and homeless people
I was living with like a lot of guys. We man, right? We man sometimes. Yeah
A lot of skaters would come into town and they just crashed. They called it the dumpster
So they'd crash at the dumpster in silver like wow. Yeah, and it was uh, it was on sandborn and it was a piece of fucking shit
Yeah, I know that. It was a pigsty. Wow. Yeah, because back then there was you know, like it's now
Kip
There's cute restaurants. Yeah. Yeah, but back then it was ms-13
And a couple of taco trucks
It wasn't like what it was, you know
But yeah, yeah, I remember that man. It changed it changed me that one thing, but you know
Look at me now
We're doing a tigerfelly
podcast
I want to talk about something that fucked me up last last night. I had to put headphones on this one
And this is serious. All right. Okay. I want you to weigh in. Yeah, weigh in but let me tell you what I'm about to tell you
Okay
So my brother and I went to um
Dupars last night to get some pancakes. Which one on the valley? No the one on 3rd street
The one in the valley is better, I think. Oh, oh, yeah, that one. Okay, you know, yeah the great great pancakes
Yeah, yeah
So my brother and I we order a gigantic cinnamon roll
Mm-hmm. They heat it butter on it
But we're eating it. It's delicious
Right, my brother goes. Hey, man. Um, what's going on?
I don't know then
So tiger belly doesn't that he what's up about trump? So we kind of talk about trump a little bit
Yeah, and then I go, you know, it's so funny. Jordan peel came to tiger belly. He said, doesn't it feel like we're living in an alternate reality?
Jordan said that on the thing remember
And my brother goes, oh, you're talking about the Mandela effect. Mm-hmm. You have heard of it
Oh, yeah, have you heard of it? Oh big time. Yeah, what is it bare steam? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what it is is this
Okay, this is what my brother's explained to me
That they yeah drink it. There was a point in time. We don't know when probably
10 15 20 years ago. There was a shift
In we we're living now in an alternate reality and in the shift
Things have changed. Mm-hmm. So the things that we remember aren't the same anymore, right?
And so we started googling examples of it, right? And literally it blew my fucking mind
Dude, you just heard about this. I just heard about it. Bro. I love this. I go down this rabbit hole
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'll let you talk
All right, let me I'm gonna let I'm gonna tell you guys some examples, right? Yeah, and then
Like for instance forest gump. Yeah, right. Okay. What I'm gonna ask you, Gilbert
What does he say about chocolates life's like a box of chocolate? What is it life is like a box of chocolate?
Yes, you don't know what you're gonna get. Yeah, that's not what he says
Okay
You know what he says he says you see you say it one more time slowly
Life is like a box of chocolate. That's it's not there. La that's like a box of chocolate
Yeah, I remember that now. Do you remember that? Yeah. Do you remember that? Yes. That is not what he says
He says life was like a box of chocolate
Chocolate
Yeah, I could remember. Do you remember the was no exactly. So that's the example
right we
heard it as is
But if you look it on youtube and look at that scene
It's was can I just debunk that? Yeah, go ahead really quickly. Yeah
You're looking at the way your reality is just a hallucination of a filter of all the knowledge that you've accumulated your whole life
Because of the second sentence that he says you never know what you're gonna get the automatic assumption is
He did say life is a box of chocolates if he didn't say life is a box of chocolates and then it's the second sentence is grammatically wrong
Do you understand? Yeah
So you're going to assume that he said life is like a box of chocolates because that's the only
Way that those two sentences actually grammatically make sense or there was a shift
I like that way
Hold on. Are you like an english major? He's a smart. She's very smart. You're so smart. Wait. Yeah, get your hands away from her
But hold on a second. Go back again. Yeah, okay, so
What i'm saying is yeah, I don't know like do you know like dangling participles and all that
I do this is bizarre
Breakdown of using the fork system. Like you don't end you don't end a sentence on a what is it?
on a
Adverb, I don't know go ahead. Well, give me another example. I'll be wrong. You're saying the sentence was grammatically incorrect
Well, if you're saying life was like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get
Those two sentences together don't actually quite make quite as much sense as life is like a box of chocolates
You never know what you're going to get off was like was like
Yeah, that's a chocolate. Yeah. Yeah. Laugh is laugh. Does that make sense George? Yeah. Yeah, so
You never know you never know. Yeah, he did say no not new. Yeah, he didn't yeah
You never if he had said you never knew what you were gonna get
Then the was would have made sense. All right now. Can I debunk your debunk? Yeah? Yeah, yeah
Yeah, because I'm already deep in this rabbit hole. Yeah. In fact, all I do is watch YouTube. Okay. Yeah
There's a
video
box
And it says on it life
was like
They have the evidence
No, I'm sure that's exactly what he said what I'm saying is how we heard it is
No, what I'm saying is what we believe he said was unrecorded history on a video box. Oh
Do you understand and then that's a movie? Yeah, it's still
is is
Do you understand? Yeah, there was a quote. You can find it. There was one that says life was life
Wow, now there's a lot of these I'll give you another example. Okay fruit loops. Yeah, how do you spell it? I can debunk that
Okay, uh fr u it l o ops. Nope
You know what the reality is no
What what I actually thought it was fruit ute. No. No. Ooh. Is it you? No. No. It's oh, oh
Fruit is spelled f r o o t loops. I thought that was spelled like that. No, okay
When I was a kid
I would look at the fruit loops box and go that's fruit loops u it
Okay, another reason
Here we go. Let me debunk that again. Pretty practical
if
Yeah, if you're in the fifth grade and you're told to spell fruit your entire life as fr u it
When you look at something you're not looking at individual letters. You're looking at the general message
So when you're looking at it quickly, you're not dissecting the o o you're going to automatically
Revert back to fifth grade, you know grammar and spelling and you're going to say it's fr u it
And you're going to emblaze that into your memory
So that's how that works. What you well your reality is just a hallucination of all the knowledge you've accumulated in your life
Or there was a shift
A shift all right, here's another one. You have another one
I have a bunch of them. Where does she go to school? She's just a fucking
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know
Filipino
It keeps changing
Yeah, yeah, um
The Bernstein bears. What's the Bernstein? I didn't I've never heard of the Bernstein bears. What are you?
You're my age, dude. I know I never heard of them
I I don't I had different
So wait, so that example never just didn't I keep it all right like the okay, so the monopoly guy
Yeah, that's not that weird of one. But yes, I do like that one. Okay. What does he have a monocle or not?
Yes, he has he doesn't never had one. Yeah, that's huge. It's true
No, he's never
Had a model how old are you 28 exactly bro?
I'm 20 years older than you and I thought the same as I think so that means it's not just our generation
Yeah, you're tweaked too, bro. You're tweaked too
So, yeah, there's a lot more. Okay. Do do the do the curious George and I'll debunk that
Do the curious George so I can debunk it this curious George you were held bent on this. Don't don't look it up
I'm so shocked by it. I gotta do it later. Do it later. I got a better one, but go ahead
No, I don't want to do that one
Can I want to do it? I want to do another one. Yeah snow white
Okay, when the when the evil, uh, what's it queen maleficent?
What when she looks in the mirror, what did she say?
Oh, uh, she says mirror mirror on the wall. What did she say mirror mirror on the wall, right? Stop right there
That's not what she says
What is it magic mirror on the wall? I'll debunk that one. How?
I thought it was mirror mirror on the wall. I'll tell you why and wait. She wait. She try to tell me
I'll tell you why right now give me a second. I have a fucking argument with that. The right is down. Oh, yeah
Not on this because we just got this as a gift
Just write it on that. Yeah
Keep going don't debunk it. Yeah debunk it. Yeah in the original brother's grim story
It is mirror mirror and the Walt Disney took liberties in the movie to change it to magic mirror
But if you were if you were a child reading original brother's grim
Um stories it was mirror mirror and so they're interchangeable and they have always been that way
Here's the thing though that argument. Okay
I never read about the brother's grim. What I did. I never did. I don't even know who they are
All I know is I saw snow white
Okay, I know that I've seen that scene in the cartoon
The disney version where she looks in the mirror and she says mirror mirror on the wall
But she never says that
She says magic mirror
So that argument right there if I knew about the brother's grim then that'd be one thing
But I don't know anything about that. You know, I always thought that
I honestly thought that snow white was a disney concoction
Can I just say that there's a science to collective mis misremembering? Yeah, I was I wrote that down
So I want to hear your opinion on that and I gotta tell you something. Okay
Go ahead. I want to hear your okay collective misremembering
It's like all we need to do all you need to tell me one time is mirror mirror
And I say yeah, that's how it is and I'm going to put that in my memory
And that's how I'm going to disseminate all my information for the rest of my life
And I'll never I because I don't know any better. I'm not going to
Argue with you and tell you wait, isn't it this it's mirror mirror, right? Right. That's how I learned it growing up
That's what I was told. Am I going to argue with my third grade teacher and say hey
That's actually in the movie. It said magic mirror and that's how things are perpetuated and that's how misremembering continues
collective misremembering
There is an explanation an actual logical
Explanation to this you're just trying to like, you know, you want it to be a shift, but it's not
There was a shift
The Philippines this is incredible because you're saying the stuff that I've read. Yeah, you're so fucking smart
Let me tell you something. Yeah, dude
So I don't know exactly the science behind it, but I read some of it
But she's she said they got like scientists to go on and there's a reason why we all
It's kind of like the hundredth monkey principle where we're all connected
And there's like a hundred monkeys do something and they somehow have the energy
On to tell a monkey a thousand miles away. I don't I can't explain it all but something like that, but
Do you know why they say this is happening? Why she's so practical with it, which I so is it like you're of a practical brain
And you I don't know if your science background or not and like Bobby and myself have like
A gullible brain
No, because I'm saying because I do want to look at things and believe them
I think that that's also an a way to escape one's reality or your own pain
I could say that I don't know what the pain would be of me remembering the bear bear and seen bear
But but so here okay, I want to ask you, but so do you know what they say the shift is?
No, so did Jordan tell you or any? No, no, no, he just said it broadly. Okay. Here's what the shift is
Oh now we're about to not sleep tonight
Dude, I love this and this is I do believe there's a collective wokeness
You know how people say they're getting woke, but I think there's a lot of bullshit
You know how people say, you know, let's keep it a hundred which is bullshit. No one keeps it a hundred
I keep it like 72
Room temperature barely passing. No one's a hundred and I'm sorry. I did five right there, but um
They say that this happened
with CERN
You know it's CERN. No, it's a CERN. Yes. Oh that that underground
The atom that all this cylinder
So what they say is happening is is that they're trying to recreate the big bang
But it's dangerous because it's basically all the powers that be to smash an atom
I don't know exactly. It's just what they're trying to do is like
Infinity war type shit. Yeah, and if you do that, it's for every action. There's an opposite equal. Yeah reaction
So they're they did it on the ground. It's miles long. They claim they haven't got it yet
But they're saying by trying that. Yeah, this is gonna sound crazy and I'm trying to put my brain around
I already believe it. That's somehow. Yeah. Yeah, we have shifted
You don't want to say because there are 11 dimensions that we know about so the there's the basic up down and over
That's three. Yeah, the fourth one
Is where you can tie two together. So for instance to get
From this tape. How do I explain it if if if japan's above us
Yes, instead of going the way you can normally do yeah, you there's a wormhole and you can get to a quicker
That's the fourth. That's just the fourth dimension. Wow
They say that we teeter back and forth and that's why weird shit's happening
A couple of conspiracy theories, which I hate being called that. Yeah, because it's like why can't be altered?
So can you debunk that it doesn't that sound interesting? That sounds interesting to me. I think that there is
I love it. There is a real we're going to cern. Okay, even if you buy the tickets
Listen, we're protesting even if there is. Yeah. Yeah. I actually don't think that that's necessarily
conspiracy theorists thinking I think that that's something to me that's more tangible because I need that that sounds like physics to me
Yes, and I I am not somebody just because I'm more science-minded
I do believe they're like we watch a lot of time travel stuff love it and I'm really hardcore into that stuff
Yeah, I just think that when it comes to I think that the human mind is heavily unreliable
I think that what we see what we think we see is very inaccurate
Could it be a combination of two things? I don't I trust the elemental things around us. I don't trust the human mind
Who spells fruit with two O's?
A company that wants to attract kids like he was tripping out on loony tunes spelled t u n e s
Me too. Okay, I'll give you a proper explanation to that
In my mind the reason that you see it as t o o n s because they're cartoons
And of course when you're thinking and you're watching cartoons automatically you're going to read loony tunes
But what about this one? E.T
That was always E.T. No
No, it was Dustin Hoffman
And which she's really like the fun police ruin
I know but E.T. says this. What does he say? All right phone home E.T. phone home
Yeah, he doesn't say that E.T. Now this one I didn't hear. Yeah. He says E.T. home phone
No, yeah
Debunk that debunking Debbie
But the reason why we think that he says phone home is because one of the other adding to Barrymore
Says E.T. phone home. And so in our heads that sounds
You know me. That's what's that that's stuck. Yeah. Yeah
Here I got another one. Yeah. Yeah, Dustin Hoffman says E.T. home phone. Was it Dustin Hoffman?
Okay, J.C. Penney. Oh, that's a that's another good one. How do you spell it? Yeah, J.C. and P.E. and N.Y.
Okay, stop. Stop. What? P.E. and N.Y. Yeah, okay and and she already knows
I saw her last show on her last night and I debunked this again. Yeah. Yeah. What is it?
It's J.C. P.E. and N.E. Y. Who spells penny with an E. Yeah, no one
What's a Y? I know there's a Y. There's a Y but there's an E.Y. at the end. The controversy
There's a controversy is not the way it's spelled. It's the way we see it. We see it as P.E. and N.Y.
But of course we would see it that way because that's how penny is spelled. Yeah
What I'm saying is you're going to see things the way, you know with Kanye's white
Is that what it is?
Kanye is white. Fourth dimension. We're seeing it wrong.
I'm going to send you this TED talk about your reality being just a hallucination.
And it is one of the most interesting things. I think his name is like Anil Seth. I've heard these but I haven't heard that.
And it's true. Yeah, but everything you're saying makes complete sense. Yeah, and that's why like witnesses to like with crimes and all those things
They're really unreliable because what you see is really
You're looking through a filter of your own implicit biases of people of events of all the knowledge that you've accumulated
All of your bullshit. Yeah, you're seeing you're not a clean slate. So so let me ask you this
I read something recently because I'm into this stuff. I love that we're talking about this
Would you know when you go I'll say to you the bathroom. Yes you go pee pee. Yeah
No, like, you know when you go to Schoenberg. Yes for the first time. Yeah, and you're like, oh my god
I got them all and I'm gonna go down to the city. Yeah, I'm gonna go to Cubby Bear and have a drink
I know you're drinking but whatever and you go to Chicago
and and it's like
And after about six times you're like, I'm gonna go to my room
I'm gonna sleep. I'm gonna get a Starbucks. I'm gonna do my shows
Because you're not gonna do anything anymore. That's exactly what yes
And I'm like, what's going on? Like, why don't I attack the city anymore?
And I read something that when the reason why things are so exciting when we're young is because our brain is informed
And so when we see something for the first time going to Tampa, Florida is like going to mars
And I literally just did shows like in bay route and it was awesome
But like I kind of understood the experience because I've been all over the world
Yeah, and I was just fine chilling having a shawarma
So I guess what I'm asking you scientists is that
They say that our brain
Once we hit a certain age once we do something the lustre of it goes away
And that's where we get blew by fucking mind. Just we get bored. So it's almost like why you keep
You get desensitized. Yes. Well, it's the same reason you can you can draw a parallel with with kids
Not wanting to like eat a lot of exciting foods and kids have a very basic palette
And the reason is their taste buds are being introduced for the very first time to these certain foods
And it's all it's an over excitement of their taste buds, right?
But the reason that adults like us have a wider range of things that we can eat
Is because we've actually desensitized like we can't taste things as well as children
And so we kind of the flavors aren't as
Like strong or exciting and we can eat a lot bigger of a variety of things
But that's how I kind of see it. It's like, you know, if you tindered
No way
Swipe left right right right and it was bobby. You're like, it's me bobby. Yeah
Wow, let me blow him away with my science. Yeah
I was a biochem major
But like but also, yeah, bro. She's but you know, it's great. What?
Because I hate it when I mean, are you a millennial? I don't know. I'm 33. I think I'm
Ish ish, but like you're not millennial, but like millennials like younger ones
Well, when they tell me something like this, you're all you're explaining it to me in such a way
Hey, I haven't heard it. B. It's very logical. C. You're not making me feel like I'm a fucking idiot
Or millennials would be like and yeah dummy like as they're like on their smartphone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's like you're like really inclusive
But dude, she you're inclusive. Where'd you it's all makes sense. She has character defects as well
Touch her hands touch her hands right now
That she's hiding from you
Yo, the robot on this mode. I know great mode, right
There's 92 other modes 92 other modes. Oh
Yeah, physically I'm breaking down as I'm explaining this to you physically. Can you touch my hand?
Don't get grossed out. Can I just show you then? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is like just look at it. You don't have to touch it
Oh, you're so sweaty. Yeah. Why because anytime my brain I have to think my whole body sweats. It's broken
Wow
I wiped it on myself. I didn't even get freaked out
I'm trying to get the knowledge. Wait. Is that one of the defects or this? No. No. I'm just
It's just like a cute little side treat. Right. I'm sweaty. That's like self lubricating. You don't have to worry about anything. You're stupid, right?
You're acting so fucking stupid right now. I said I go too far. I should take too far. It's so dumb what you're doing. Right. Right. Right.
She has defects. I'm thinking that one. Okay, I know. Obviously robot on. We're all broken. Yeah, of course. For sure you're broken. Yeah, we're all broken. But wow. Yeah
Wow, that's what I'm I'm impressed with. Well, I mean, I I'll be honest with you and I've said this many times is that
you know, Kalyla
was the first girlfriend I've ever had that actually
helped my life
Like she helped me get jobs in the business. She helped me do this podcast. She's to the women that used to date
That's the first great thing go ahead. No, but she, you know, in that way you I never thought that you could benefit.
You know, I mean, from having
You know, a partner that's like motivating and also creative and
She's you know, she's helped me immensely. But that's the one thing that's a barrier with creativity
is that once you're too practical and science minded
There is a sense of like you you're not able to do anything that you want to do to succeed.
there is a sense of like you're not able to do what you do
or be funny or you know, do all of that.
Yeah, practicality is boring.
Practicality kills the cat.
It does.
But so wait, are you, I don't know enough about you,
but so I don't, like right now I'm getting the vibe
that you are like science and smart.
That's what I, yeah.
But you also do stuff with him.
I just added, I just add structure to his life.
I'm just a,
what, like are you a writer doing comedy, acting?
No, no comedy.
Okay.
She did it like 20 times.
No, my God, because you forced me to.
You said that it was part of the experience.
It's part of the experience, yeah.
I was horrible.
I was horrible.
He did it.
He was terrible.
Wow.
He's one of the worst.
Take time.
What?
Practicality.
You're getting better?
You're getting better?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my God.
Smiles that you hold each other.
It takes time.
Where do you live now?
Like in what area?
On the street.
I don't know what,
West Side, where are you now?
Los Feliz.
Oh, you are?
By the Greeks.
Oh, that's amazing.
I love this area.
I'm glad that we eat together at the 101.
Oh, you know where I ran into you
was at that Korean restaurant
that I go to every fucking night.
You go there all the time?
Yeah, I go there like twice a week.
I love that one.
Wait, is that the best one?
Cause I go a lot of times.
It's not the best one, no.
It's a great one.
For that late night, it's the best one.
Do you like quarters?
It's pretty good.
Are we like Auguste better?
We're like Auguste better.
Auguste, is that the one with the pink pig?
It's the guy with the guy.
Haichun Chong is the pink pig.
That's a good one.
Wait, hold on.
All you can eat.
The Haichun?
Haichun, yeah.
That's all you can eat.
Bobby doesn't have.
You like Korean food?
All the time.
Wow.
Why wouldn't I?
You should go.
Now, let me ask you this.
There's another little side fact that I know.
About?
About just him and I and whatnot, right?
We're done with a whole Bernstein Bears.
I love where we're going.
We can go back.
No, we can go back.
I'm just gonna throw this little fact out.
I think it was like five or six.
You asked me to audition for another movie you were doing.
Oh.
It was an audition?
It was an offer.
I was a straight offer.
It was an offer.
It was an offer.
It was an audition.
But the dialogue was so broken.
The Haichun, it was so thick.
Yes.
Right?
I just kind of passed on it.
And I felt bad because, you know what I mean?
I love him and I want to work with him again.
But I just didn't feel it.
Who got the jump before we go into that?
That kind of hurt my butt a little bit.
It did?
Yeah.
I felt that it did, maybe.
How do you, you could have texted me.
What's going on?
Oh, all right, all right, all right.
Let's get, let's go there.
Wait, hold on.
Let's go, let's go.
Now, hold on.
Yeah.
I obviously wasn't with him this time.
He wasn't with me at the time.
Character defect, 91A.
No, but the thing is about the movie
and it wasn't a great movie
and it didn't get theatrical.
It almost didn't, it didn't,
but now it's in reruns all the time.
It was called the hungover games.
And so it was kind of almost like
what we're doing with Cern talk.
It was like the guys from the hungover.
Yeah, I know what it was.
Woke up.
Yeah, yeah.
No, and they were in, what's that place?
In the,
Yeah, in the Hunger Games.
Yeah, where they woke up there.
Yeah.
In Panorama, where the fuck it is.
Anyway, so it was like a parody.
Your character was the Ken John character.
What's his name?
Hang on.
Yeah, yeah, hang over here.
Mr. Chow.
You were, Mr. Chow.
Yeah.
But it was like super over the top bad on purpose.
It was like an alternative shift.
So it was like, why is he going over the top?
Yeah.
You understand?
Who got it?
That fan.
Is that a bad word here?
Dad's the sweetest guy.
He's the sweetest guy in the world.
The sweetest guy in the whole world.
Friendliest guy.
He's so friendly.
Yeah.
I think he won the thing.
Yeah, he won the thing.
Yeah.
He won.
And he was the nicest guy I haven't talked to in a while.
Yeah, yeah.
I have no idea your history.
I don't know history.
But Mesa turned from white to pink.
Robot went in shutdown mode.
He went back farther than the closet.
I have no idea what he's doing.
He went back farther than the closet, I have no idea.
He came in, he read a bunch of times.
That's great.
I have no idea.
I like him.
I like him.
In fact, we love him so much.
We love him so much is that we talk about him a lot.
Because we love him a lot, yes.
So we let him on the show.
He'll never do it.
Wow.
There's some kind of thing.
There is no thing.
There is no thing.
Really, he'll never do it.
I'm doing it.
Does that matter?
OK.
You had Jordan do it.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
All right, I don't.
All right, there's obviously a thing.
No, just stop.
All right, there's a thing.
I just want to say this.
I just want to say this, OK?
I have no idea.
I'll shut up.
There, I just want to say this.
And I'm not making fun of anybody.
I'm not.
This is not.
I'm watching what I'm saying.
I just fucking took down true TV.
I'm fucked.
No, you're not.
All right, go ahead.
I liked it.
OK.
This is that you and Jordan, right?
You guys are in movies and shit.
That's it.
That's all I'm going to say.
Oh, god.
I took, I got that.
I point taken, yeah.
There's a lot of history there.
I don't know.
I don't, it sounds like you guys.
There's no history.
Fine.
No, I love them.
There's no history.
OK, I just, I just throwing out a fact.
And you know what?
The way you cackled, right?
He was in my movie.
Who was?
I mean, it went to write the red box.
What did?
My movie, where dad was in it.
Well, hungover, hungover game?
Yeah, I think it went to like.
I didn't even, because I saw, because I watch everything
he's in.
Wow, this is.
I watch everything he's in, and I
have seen his scenes in the hungover game.
I didn't know it was that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Did you like his scenes?
I like him.
So yeah, everything he does, everything he does,
everything he does, I'm like, come with us.
I like him.
Dude, why aren't you telling?
All right, I don't know.
You probably talk about it a lot in your pocket.
No, no, that's fine.
Was he one of the Kims of comedy?
No, because he's not Korean.
OK, I know.
I was racist.
That was racist.
Well, you're laughing.
You fucking.
Was everyone Korean?
Yeah, everyone.
Yeah.
Steve Byrne is Korean.
No one.
Oh, no one.
Ken Jeong is Korean.
No one was like, sneaky Filipino.
Third.
I try to get sneaky Joe Coy in it, but Steve Byrne's like,
well, he's not.
He's half, and you know what I mean?
Wow.
It was like, it was hard, but.
Wow, you got to get Steve on this, too.
We have never had him, you know?
And I also want to say that I think
it was cosmic that I ran into last night,
because I've always wanted you on this.
But I asked them.
I have a hard time asking people.
Like, I've asked a couple of guys this week
that I was afraid to ask, and they just didn't return my,
you know, my shit.
Really?
That's the worst fear.
Yes, it's my biggest fear, you know?
So it's like, when I asked you and you said you would do it,
it was very, I was so excited, because I've always loved you.
I know, I got a lot for you.
And I want to say this is that, you know,
they call me the Slup King.
The what king?
The Slup King.
Slap?
Yeah.
And when did that come into play?
Has that been in the title for you?
Well, yeah.
That's what the papaya did.
Did I just debunk my debunk?
Yeah.
He was in a moment.
He was going to get all emo.
That's what she does.
That's a character defect.
I don't know what to say.
Bobby's about to say, I love you.
Oh, my God.
Wow, I know, she wasn't even listening.
You know what she does.
Do you know where you went?
That was, wow.
Now, that's a cold, I'm just going to say,
that was like a cold, scientific, like you've
got to watch the new movie with Ryan Gosling.
What's the one, the replicas?
Blade Runner.
Blade Runner.
I love that movie.
He was like, to the left, three degrees, to the 93.
Yeah.
And this hot chick.
We love that movie.
Oh, so dope.
But you would like that.
You were an android in that moment.
I wasn't an android.
He was like, listen, this is my baby.
She's like a Vulcan.
She's a Vulcan.
Wow.
I got it, though.
So can I go back into the thing?
Anyway, I've always liked it.
Twisted now.
Now it's ruined.
But I'm going to try.
And I want to say that.
I want to say that.
Did I leave the oven on?
I'm going to do that.
I have deep regret.
I'm so sorry.
That's all right.
But that's your thing.
Programmed.
Programmed.
And that's recorded.
Anyway, I was going to say, this is what I was going to say.
I lost the moment.
Fuck.
You were loving me.
I was loving you.
I just remember, I remember like, and it's just,
my brother and I, Steve went to that last audition
for the kick in old school and you told me that I got it.
You know, like you didn't call my agent.
You just said, I think you got it.
And I remember being in the car driving with my brother
and we were so, that was the happiest time I've ever
had with Steve.
Because it's like, I needed it.
I was on Matt TV, but like I couldn't get into movies.
You know, I did Harold and Kumar, but that's it.
And it was like a bigger part.
Like I was like fourth lead or fifth lead in it, you know what I mean?
So, you know, it was just a really cool thing.
And, you know, I just have fun memories of you in that way.
I think if there's any one movie you always or movie set or
experience that you talk about, it's always that way.
I always bring up Kigali.
We probably talk about it.
Every episode.
Yeah.
On every episode.
Really?
Yeah.
And also on stage, I sometimes talk about it.
What do you say?
Because when I bring Ally Wong up on stage, because it was
back to back, I always bring up the journalist that was on this
movie, kicking old school with Jamie Kennedy and then, you know,
I mean, Ally Wong.
And now I'm bringing her up.
Really?
Yeah.
It was a real like connection because I'm friends with really good
friends with Rosenbaum.
In fact, Rosenbaum, have you done his podcast?
Yeah.
He has his own podcast and he, he was sort of our guy and then he
filtered off to do his own.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, he was your guy.
Well, I mean, he was our guest and it kind of influenced him in many
ways to do his own.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You should do one.
I should.
You should.
I have, wait, I'm going to go back to that.
But I do.
I had a great time with you.
After I give you a compliment like that, don't try to switch it.
You know what I mean?
No.
You made me one.
No, I'm not getting it.
And I just felt weird.
Oh, no.
You just ruined his moment.
You ruined his moment.
I really did.
Character defect.
Can I go back to mine?
Character defect.
Can I go to my D-Bot?
No, I really did.
But I had a good time with a lot of people like I really have.
It's funny though.
We don't really keep in touch.
Okay.
Character defect.
No, no, no.
He'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
Wait.
Is that on a podcast?
No.
I'm going to tell you why.
Does that have to do with me?
No, no, no, no.
Lots of you.
Because, you know, when I got on the man TV, the one guy that was the nicest to me was
Will Sasso.
Yeah.
He took me in.
I hung out with him a lot.
And he...
When did you get it?
2000?
Yeah, 2000.
He would invite me to his barbecues and we went out at night and he was really cool.
He was the only senior cast member that made me feel like, you know, welcome on the show.
Everyone else was standoffish and cold, you know?
And when he left the show, I didn't talk to him for five years and he would call me
and I would never call him back.
Why?
It's just a character defect of mine.
Why?
It's not because of hate or love.
It's just because I just don't like, I don't pick up anyone.
Like when I have to go on the road and I have to call her, it's so difficult.
But you talk...
But I do it because I love her and I want to connect and I don't want to lose this.
So I just, I want to do it.
You know what I mean?
But it's like, you know, even when I'm on the phone, I'm just terrible at connecting
in that way.
Am I not right?
Yeah, I kind of don't...
I think it's just sheer laziness.
That's different than what you said.
Sheer laziness means you don't care.
Yeah, maybe you're saying...
Maybe.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How did you not care about Will Sasso?
It's not, no, that's not the right word.
I think what you're saying, you're twisting it, you know what I mean?
It's just like...
How did you not care about me?
We had peace in the kitchen.
I know, I know, I know.
Wait a minute.
We had...
I remember...
Room service.
No, not in San Francisco.
We went to this Italian restaurant.
Oh.
I remember that.
And I remember these moments, right?
That was the first time I saw your dick.
Can I say that?
Yeah, you can say that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a standard.
You can't do that now.
I know.
You can't do that anymore.
But he would take his dick out.
Just take it around.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like put it in the bread.
You just pick around the bread.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And even Maria's like, Bobby!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was like...
I used to be like, yeah, crazy in that way.
Yeah.
But I want to apologize to you about that.
You're not...
Okay.
Yeah, I do.
It's just a...
No, this podcast is about our flaws.
We've exposed ourselves.
We've exposed a lot of flaws.
Yeah.
And this is great.
And I'm willing to say it.
I am sorry.
That is a flaw of mine.
It's not because I don't like you.
It's not because I have any kind of resentment or ill will.
It's just that I'm lazy and I'm used to a hermit.
The only times people see me out is either I'm eating or I'm at a club.
Do you stand up?
Okay, I take that back.
There we go.
It's not that he's lazy.
He's a hermit.
A hermit?
And he has this thing where he thinks that if people know him too well, they won't like
him.
And he has a fear of letting people in too deeply to where they might turn him away.
Two questions, though.
But you kept in touch with Rosenbaum.
Yeah.
I mean, no, barely.
Barely.
Barely.
I mean, he'll call me like...
But he works it.
Three weeks ago, he goes...
I had a guest that fell out last minute.
Can you do it?
I was out of town.
No, I'm saying over the years.
He's more pursuing it.
He pursues it.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's the thing.
I didn't pursue it either.
So I have my own character defaults.
But still, when I would see you...
It'd be love.
It'd be love.
Yeah.
Like pure love.
See, because there's a lot...
I'll say this.
I do have a good connection with you.
Yeah.
And somebody said this about you, I'm not going to say it.
I wanted you to say it.
I love it.
Oh.
This is great.
Can I?
Yeah, yeah.
But like, Melissa McQueen, because she opens for me.
Yeah.
She absolutely loves you.
Yeah, I love her too.
She says, Bobby's got one of the softest hearts in Hollywood.
Yeah.
And I said, I know that about him.
Yeah.
I feel that.
Because we talked about a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
You know, that's between...
I know a lot of stuff about you, and I think that you know a lot of stuff about me.
And I was like, I know.
I don't talk to him like ever.
And she's like, yeah.
And she's like...
She didn't really get coached me on it.
She's like, just hit him up.
Because I was starting to see you.
Yeah.
And she's like, I absolutely love him.
He's one of the softest hearts.
And that's...
And so it's back at you.
I mean, I don't...
Oh, I thought you were going to say something negative there.
No, no.
We're going to suck at each other.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what I want to say is this is that in...
I hate to say this because I love this town.
I love Hollywood.
I love California.
You're a real Californian.
I'm a fake one, but I'm not because I came here when I was 18.
So I almost feel like I am because I've been here for 30 years.
But you're the OG because you're born here.
Yeah.
I mean, people shit on LA.
LA people say, no, LA don't want you.
Get the fuck out.
I love LA.
I love LA.
I love our business.
This is what we sign up for.
I will say I get my butt hurt.
I'm getting better at it.
The people that they're...
It's not...
They don't change.
You know, this is a...
I think Lindsay Lohan said this is a great line.
She said, success doesn't change you.
It magnifies who you already are.
So when you get successful, you think people change.
Like going back to the Bernstein Bears, it was already there, but it was like hidden
from you, whatever.
And one thing I can say about you, from the moment I met you, when you came up to me
at the rib joint in Universal, Tony Romo's.
Wow.
And you were like 1995, and I was just starting to hit, but you're like, hey, Jamie,
my name's Bobby, do you call me?
Hey, how are you?
Are you going up tonight?
Yeah, yeah.
You're the same guy that met me in the garage.
Wow.
Yeah, dude.
That's fucking real shit.
I like that Tony Romo's.
Yeah.
That's what he got for metal thing.
But that's rare.
Why are you?
That's fucking.
Can I debunk?
That was a debunk.
You know what happened?
It got too intimate.
Yeah.
So you got intimacy issues.
You can't just let it.
Yeah, I got really weird.
You got to break it.
You got to break it.
Yeah, I started sweating.
That's my bad.
That's my bad.
Yeah, yeah.
What I was saying earlier.
So good.
I didn't take it personally, but for a while I thought, I really love Bobby.
Yeah.
You talk to him more because you usually collect a friend or two from a thing.
Yeah.
It's funny.
I don't keep a lot of friends from projects.
Maybe one or two.
It's rare.
But you do for a while.
You're in this intense thing and it's beyond summer camp.
Yeah.
And it's like, here, I'll tell you a story.
Yeah.
Hopefully people like it.
Yeah.
For a while, you do this business, right?
You do it because, I don't know, there's people that are like, I'm love to create.
I'm an artist.
I'm really a, I'm a joke man.
I'm in a, you know, I don't know why other people do it.
I did it because I wanted to feel loved.
You know what I mean?
The fact that I can act and be funny is just the side thing.
Like I never knew that stuff.
It was only through trial and error.
Yeah.
But it was like, you know, you could, so anyway, you get in this business and you're broken.
You know, most people are broken.
You know, there's very few people that are adjusted in this business, in my opinion.
You agree with that?
Yeah.
And you get in this business and you, you become, you get on these projects from the littlest
to the big, whether it's a community at an open mic, the community at the store, community
on a set, community on a TV show, a web series, whatever it is.
You're like, oh, this is my fucking tribe.
And then it ends and you fucking cry.
Yeah.
And you cry, you're fucking, I can almost cry right now.
You cry your fucking head off.
And I did scream and I went from, I never left my room.
I fuck it was only David Arquette who, and Rose McGowan and Nev who encouraged me at
different times, I would eat with Rose.
David would say, bro, come out or Nev would like give me wine.
I would say my lines.
I would have lines for four days.
I would do one scene and I have four days.
I wouldn't leave my room.
I would do lines all day, not lines.
I would do my lines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd get coke in my life.
Yeah.
And I would eat the cookies because it was a double tree.
And I was so paranoid of fucking up.
And the experience that was only after I got all my scenes done.
Yeah.
That I completely started giving in, right?
I didn't really.
And I had the, like he was saying about kicking it.
I had that on screen.
And one of the people I got to work with was Courtney.
And I'll forget I was eating in a restaurant with her.
And I used to like, it was so cool because I was like a famous person, super famous.
And like, I would like take the picture.
People like, can I take a picture?
Like people go crazy, right?
Yeah.
And I was like, no one knew me.
And I remember eating with her and it was at the end of the thing.
And it was my birthday.
And they brought me a cake.
And everybody was clapping and it was like on a set, like my family didn't even do that, right?
Right, right, right.
And this movie.
And I start fucking crying, my fucking eyes out.
And I'm like, I'm going to miss everybody.
And she's like, and I was crying for a long time.
She's like, maybe hurry up.
It's okay.
Get over it.
I'm like, but we're friends, right?
And she's like, yeah, we're friends.
We're friends.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm like, we're friends.
Yeah.
I love you guys.
This is like my new friends.
And she's like, I'll never forget this.
And she's like, oh, honey, oh, honey, honey.
Oh, baby, you thought this was real.
You thought this was real.
This is, no, this is a beautiful thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, like, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's a beautiful thing.
She's like, she's like, this is summer camp.
I go, but it is real.
She goes, no, it is real, honey.
She's like, it's real.
She's so sweet.
She goes, but it ends.
She goes, you're, I mean, listen, we're still going to be friends, but it's such an intense
experience.
It's like 16 lifetimes in six weeks.
And it is because you start from fucking 6 a.m.
Yeah.
Until 8 p.m.
And you're next to somebody.
How many people do that in relationships?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Even who live together.
You see eight.
You wonder why people fuck.
You wonder why people come best friends.
You wonder why they hate each other because you're at the hip.
And she's like, honey, this is summer camp.
I mean, it's, and she goes, it's amazing, but you're going to go to another one and another
one and another one.
And you're going to realize it's, it's going to become a wonderful job.
And I tell you, I've cried.
I mean, I have 102 credits.
I probably stopped crying.
I feel like 62.
Wow.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Yeah.
The only person probably up until like three years ago when they got divorced, who sends
me regular Christmas cards.
Courtney.
Wow.
I mean, I'm talking to everyone.
Courtney and David.
Yeah.
Even through their divorce.
Yeah.
They'll send me a Christmas.
Wow.
Wow.
So there's a person bracing me for the world.
Yeah.
But yeah, so it's a beautiful soul.
Oh man.
Beautiful soul.
But dude.
So why don't know what to point that story?
No, no, but you know what?
But it's like, no way.
You never gave you a Christmas.
Come on.
No.
No, for me, but like people listening.
I don't know if they're up for me.
That was almost cathartic and life changing because I've, I was, I've never, I thought
I was a fucking asshole.
No.
Like, you know, Justin Kirk from animal practice.
When I was on that animal sitcom, we'd smoke together, eat.
We'd meet at La Pubelle, right?
Get the artichoke.
We'd say that, you know, that little Brussels sprouts.
Yeah.
And he would bring his like fancy theater friends and drink wine and I'd be leaning back.
You know what I mean?
You know, and then we'd go outside and have a cigarette, you know, and I haven't seen
him since.
I don't know.
I don't even.
How many times have you seen him?
None.
But when was that show?
Five years ago.
I have not seen him one time.
I will say this though.
Yeah.
It's hard, bro.
Stay with me on this.
Yeah.
It's hard to keep regular friendships in our business.
I mean, it's, I think about it.
You don't see, think about, we're all planets, right?
We're all moons.
Planets, really.
You're your own solar system.
And the bigger you are.
Oh, you're a fucking moon or planet, fuckface.
No, let's go planet.
I need to know how this is going to go right now.
That was fake anger.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's go, let's say planet, right?
Yeah.
And like, you know, you can say it like a star or whatever.
It's a solar system.
How often do you see, you know, Colin Farrell hang out with another solar system?
Because his life is so crazy.
Yeah.
And so it's hard.
It's like, you know, Justin Bieber doesn't hang out with Lady Gaga.
I'm sure they're friends, but it's hard.
So it's like, you have to think of it like that.
And it's easier to hang with people that are knowing you and it's even hard to hang.
Yeah.
Because we work all the time, dude.
I mean, I've just been fucking Canada for fucking six days.
Yeah.
Been in Beirut for two weeks.
But that's why.
I love, that's why I've always gone to the comedy store.
I can see that now.
I told you that.
Remember, I say it was important.
He gave me great advice.
And if you want me to tell you.
Yeah, I said, yeah.
But say your piece.
And then I'll say.
I wanted to say this.
The reason why I get bummed if I don't get a spot there when I call in, it's because,
it's not because of the spot.
It's because I get to say hi to pretty much a second family that I grew up with and it's
consistent.
Yeah.
And I know I'm going to run into Sebastian Manoscalco.
I know I'm going to run into Crystal Lea.
It's just, you know, like cheers.
You want to be able to go to a place and say hello and people know your name and they say
hello back and you could just share what's going on in your life.
And I've had wars there and I've had, but it's like, you know, I'm a part of this mini
society that I don't.
I can't lose.
I'll feel lost.
I so see that.
Yeah.
And it's healthy.
You're healthy, man.
You're fucking healthy.
You're fucking healthy.
Where are we at time?
Over our 20.
Our 20.
Yeah.
This is what we're going to do here.
This is what we do.
I wasn't able to debunk my debunk.
Don't the beat.
She's just taking on it.
What you got to do?
You want to debunk the debunk?
Debunk the debunk.
She was a piggyback.
That was a compartmental.
That was a compartmentalize.
You know how earlier you said I was really practical?
We were all emo, Christ.
No, this is emo.
We're probably a fucking anal me and him.
And you're like, hold on.
We're touching tips.
Go ahead.
Initially, I was like, practical, practical, practical.
But after listening to everything,
I think there is something to what you're saying
and there is, in fact, I believe in synchronicity.
And everything about this conversation,
all the dots were connected in my head.
Okay.
Everything from, if there was,
you talked about this Mandela effect yesterday.
Yes.
And there was a reference that you made during our discussion
and the Uber driver that I rode to take to my sister's house
made that exact same obscure reference.
And I almost called you and I thought, holy shit,
of all the things that this guy could have said.
You know, he said that thing that Bobby said.
Yeah.
Another thing of all the guests that said no to you this weekend,
you brought in a guy who is heavily versed in the Mandela effect.
Yes.
So all I'm saying is there is, in fact,
something that kind of ties this all in together.
And as much as a practical mind as I have,
I think there is a deep connection
that we cannot understand through scientific explanation.
Do you think we're in a simulation?
Fuck you, Kennedy.
What are you talking about?
You don't know that theory?
No, tell me the theory.
You know that theory?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bro, I want to believe what she's saying.
It would be easier.
It would take a lot of sweat off.
You want to say what she's saying?
I told my brother, I told my brother, I said,
at Duke Park when we're having the cinnamon roll.
And I go again and I do.
He goes, what's wrong with you?
I go, the reason why this Mandela thing is freaking me out
is because I thought I died 10 years ago.
Dude, you just opened up another hour.
What are you talking about?
I died 10 years ago?
I think I died 10 years ago on Fountain.
Oh my God, this is intense.
I've never heard anybody tell me this.
Who?
A car accident.
What?
And that everything from that death,
it's my spirit reliving, continuing to living.
Am I fucking a ghost?
I don't know, man.
That's pretty cool.
My brother was arguing.
My brother was arguing.
My brother was like, no, I'm real here, Bob.
He was freaking out.
I'm here, Bob.
Flesh and blood here, bud.
I know, but I think he goes, no, man.
I'm your brother, man.
We're those crazy Asians over there.
I mean, it was crazy.
Yeah.
Dude.
But because.
How?
I don't know.
Yeah, dude.
Have you ever said this before?
No.
This is so awesome.
Did you plan to talk about it?
I got a car accident on Fountain, right?
I hit another actor, right?
I don't know what actor it was, but for some reason in my mind,
I think he's an actor.
Yeah.
And then I died instantaneously.
Wow.
And then I, and I have this reoccurring image of it.
You know, a feeling that I did do that.
Like, I can even like, you know what I mean?
Like, see the wreckage and my, you know, I, you know, all that stuff.
And then just me dying.
But it was a dream or something.
I don't know what it is.
But yeah.
So I think, you know, all this stuff, like Trump and all that.
So I think I'm imagining, you know, like it's some sort of like alternate weird thing
that's happening, but we can get that next time.
We can fight that out.
Dude, that's insane.
I know.
But here's it is.
I think we're all waking up.
Don't you think we're all waking up?
Don't fucking open up a different fucking topic.
A bars box.
Yeah.
Our minds awakening.
Can you watch Westworld?
Oh, fuck you, Kennedy.
It is.
It's becoming like, it's a parent.
It's a parent.
So you think you're in a similar, what you're saying that we're like matrix and we're like
tied up to a theme park.
Dude, it's, you have to watch Westworld.
It's so good.
We saw five episodes.
We didn't, we stopped.
Oh, because the road, think of the robots being yourself.
So they have what their memories of is just old data, right?
And they didn't get their hard drives erased.
So what's the difference between humans right now?
We were having, what's a dream?
Is it a dream or is it just old hard drives?
It's dope, dude.
That's my, don't even get started on dreams.
That's two hours.
That's two hours right there.
Dreams are my thing.
I wanted to be like a sleep scientist.
So at the end of our podcast, we do it.
I'm not done.
I'm done.
We're done.
At the end of the yellow, we're done.
At the end of the, we do an hour.
So at the end of our 20, I know there's a lot of stuff.
No, we're not going to keep it like this.
It's a true TV.
Yeah.
Do you want it?
You want on?
No, I'm fine with it.
Tell me now.
I'm fine with it.
Yeah, we're going to, we're going to keep all of it.
I think it's fine.
Okay, good.
I don't care.
So at the end of our podcast, we do a thing called on helpful advice and he has an email,
an actual email from somebody that needs our advice.
It can be helpful or not helpful.
Okay.
Okay.
So go ahead.
Bobby Kalaila at Jamie Kennedy.
Hello Tiger belly.
I'm 30 years old and my parents are still married, but they have been separated for three years.
My parents are moving to Arizona, which where I live four years ago from Miami, Florida.
Once moved, my father started acting distance distant and kept going back to Miami saying
was to finish some work.
After a few months of this, he told my mother you wanted some space and didn't feel the
same way about her.
They have been married 29 years.
Oh my God.
Turns out he was seeing another woman and still sees her, but it's also still married to my
mother.
My mom hopes that he will come back because she is very religious praying that he will
change.
My father has not spoken to neither my sister or I since he announced a separation from
my mother.
My question is how do I approach my father and confront him with all of my feelings about
stringing my mom along, not talking to the kids and how hurt we all feel.
Thank you.
Vanessa.
Oh my God.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
So her dad has a whole second life?
Yeah.
Still married to the mother, but he took off.
He doesn't talk to anybody.
How long?
He's living this other life in Miami.
Yeah.
Wait, so how long has he been out of her life?
Uh, they've been separated for three years, but she doesn't say how long he's been going
back to Miami.
No, but he's obviously still giving the mom hope that they're going to for reconciliation
by not getting divorced.
The mom's got it.
The mom.
Here's the advice.
The mom's got it.
You can't control the mom, right?
You can't control another person.
So if the mom wants to live the dream, that's what she's going to do.
That's the moms.
The moms got to get out of it.
Yeah.
I think that you're on to the right point.
I think that if he's not communicating and he, she's being dragged along, she has to
let go.
She has to end it and you just got to cut the guy out of your life.
So does Vanessa talk, then instead of talking to her father, just talk to her mom.
Yeah.
You obviously have communication.
It's like a mom, we got to get you to detach.
He's a piece of shit.
Right?
I'm sure there's a love there.
He's your dad, you know, but, and you can deal with your, your resentments and all that
stuff later.
But I think that once there's, you know, you know, a lawful separation, a divorce, and
then you let some time pass, you know, go to therapy and deal with it.
But, you know, it's not, the mom is getting hurt.
She has to let go.
She has to be free of it.
Yeah.
She has to find her own life.
What do you think, babe?
Yeah.
You closed up.
What the fuck is going on?
If I was, no, if I was the daughter.
She's still debunked.
I didn't know they're debunking each other.
Yeah.
They hit close to home.
Yeah.
No, not that close to home.
Did your dad?
What's wrong?
No, but I'm just saying I would, if I were her, I would absolutely speak to the dad.
I think that he probably isn't aware of all the hurt that he's causing if no one's telling
him.
If I, if I have two kids and let's say we had two kids together, right?
Our kids are grown.
George and Bryce.
What?
Your kids are George and Bryce.
Yeah.
George and Bryce are my kids.
Right?
And I, I, I meet, you know what I mean?
Some girl in North Carolina, right?
And I cut off communication with my two sons and you for years, right?
I know, you know, what I'm doing, yes.
And I'm stringing you along because I still, there's still love there, you know?
And I'm living in, I still feel bad, but I'm still getting a piece of both a little bit.
You have to end it.
You have to end it.
Yeah, that's true.
You have to be free.
But it's not going to, if one of our kids decided that they wanted to give you a piece
of their mind, I think that you ought to hear it.
I'm not, this is just a scenario, babe.
I don't know why you're fucking George is not my son.
Yeah.
Okay.
If I fucking had a son that looked like that, if I saw that look like that, kill myself.
Oh no.
He changes color.
All right.
Maybe him.
He's fine.
He's a son I like.
He's a son.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's called unhelpful advisory.
Yeah.
I don't get the movie I auditioned for today.
You want to double suicide?
How hard?
Yeah.
How hard?
How many times are you going in?
Twice.
I sent in a tape, they liked it, and I did a screen test, like chemistry test.
Is it a big movie?
It's something I want.
It'll be a hot movie.
That one comes out.
Yeah.
You can't talk about it.
No.
But is it a studio movie?
It's a Netflix movie.
Okay.
That's all I can say.
Okay.
That's it.
Anyway, guys.
I'm telling you.
No, I'm being real.
I'm being real.
Can I debunk that?
Yeah.
I really do.
That was, you're a great cast.
You're amazing.
And I wanted to go shorter because I know you're tired.
But it just happened.
We could have done another hour.
I think.
Yeah.
That was natural.
We would love to have you on again one day, man.
You're fucking amazing at this.
You are.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
And if you...
Maybe you'll see me in the parking lot and ask me again.
No, but if you...
I really strongly suggest that you do one.
I gotta get that advice.
Maybe you should tell me off.
Bert told me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's...
I mean, Bert's done it.
It was here three weeks ago.
He did ours.
And it's changed my whole road numbers.
Really?
Yeah.
It doubled my audience.
Just like that.
Wow.
I go to like Ontario.
I was there a couple...
I sell half the room.
I sold out every show.
This time.
Wow.
And it's because...
And there was no ticket preta...
And I go, trust me, they're coming.
Tiger belly fans are coming.
Do you have to do...
Can you do your jokes?
Or do you...
Do they want to just...
Can you just do podcast stuff and talk like topics like that too?
I mean, you could do live...
Your live podcast as well, but, you know...
This has been going on for what?
Three years this show?
Two?
Two years?
Two years, yeah.
Two years, yeah.
In the beginning it wasn't...
You couldn't see it, but I think after a couple of years and, you know, last night
I was at the comedy store and there was gay Korean man from Hawaii came up to me because
I just don't kind of come to clubs, but I'm a huge Tiger belly fan.
I love all everyone on it and he goes, I just needed to see you.
I just needed to meet you and we took a photo and we talked for a bit and then this other
fat Korean dude came out separate.
But...
I'm from Ohio.
I came here.
I don't, you know...
I don't go to a comedy...
But you...
I had to say hi.
So what is the...
I don't have...
He calls Slap King...
Slap King.
Slapa Slap King, right?
Do another one.
Who else came up?
What are the other...?
ät?
What are the other Korean...?
China China.
This is like, you're getting mad at me.
You're doing the voice that you wouldn't do in my movie.
A kid said to me.
He goes, the voice!
I'm 45.
The voice!
How long do I do?
It was really funny, it's true.
The voice!
Sure.
Sorry...
Anyway give Jamie and Kerry a round of applause because everybody was wonderful.
Jamie any handles or anything you need to yeah promote my Twitter is at Jamie Kennedy at the Jamie Kennedy is my insta
Check out tremors on tremors nine on
Six on Netflix, but let me say something. They I was on Instagram. They're promoting the fuck out of that thing
Yeah, man, they it's you know, and it looks fun and campy. Yeah, it's cool. Dude. It's actually I'm gonna watch it
Yeah, you watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, any shows Bobby. I'm gonna be in Calgary this weekend. Mm-hmm. I yuck yucks
Yeah, yuck yucks a black foot. Oh, yeah, I just played yuck yucks, dude in Calgary. We're Vancouver. I love Vancouver
It's good. It's a great club. I saw your picture. Okay. Wait. I love it. Can I plug one? Yeah, go ahead to coma comedy club
It's weekend. Yeah. Yeah, if you're in Tacoma, dude, check out fucking Jamie man. Do it. All right
He's a good dude. Thank you
You go say hi to him after the show, right? Do you do that meeting great or no all the time?
But you're doing Calgary so plug that already did it
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