TigerBelly - Episode 150: Kyle Dunnigan is in Our Satellite

Episode Date: July 11, 2018

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You're listening ad-free on Wondery Plus. I live in the Hollywood Hills. That's right. I made it in Hollywood. Let him get in the zone. Thank you. I need a new producer. I think maybe you're the guy. That was really cool right there. That was really cool right there. See, you didn't do that, George. Do you see what he just said? Let him get in the zone. That was fucking pro shit. You notice the artist needs time. Maybe you don't give a shit. Maybe you're just like, oh, we record it and that's it.

That's not it. That's not it. Well, I'm just saying that, yeah, let him get in the zone was very good. Write that down. Let him get in the zone. Write it down right now. If I don't see it in the piece of paper, you're in trouble. Alright, go ahead. What's your name? Gilbert. Gilbert, go ahead. Alright, five, four, three, slow down. Slow down. The five, four because I'm in the mood, right? Yeah. You're going to do seconds. Wait the second. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Should I get a new sidekick?

I don't know. I feel like Kyle's poaching us away. Do I think I might need a new sidekick? I got a bigger podcast room. Oh, is it? Less dogs. More space. Anyway, wow. My mind is being blown and open at the same time. Please go ahead. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Welcome to another episode of Tiger Belly. Oh, I'm coagulated and emancipated today, man. It's full thrust, upwards and downwards, dimensional. I've created blockage in my minority, and it's really great stuff, man. It's really good to be here. Fundamentally, conceptually, it's a ridiculous event. And we're here together in the moment, sharing each other's juices. And I really enjoy it. I really do.

My mind's blown, man, because we're connected. The fourth eye, the fifth eye, they're all seeing sideways and through their peripherals. And I really enjoy it. My point is this, my name is Bob. And I don't remember last week I said I was your cult leader and I was kind of a godlike kind of a character and whatnot. And I've changed my tone. I am no longer that. I am man. I am man like you are, and we're brothers. I still am your leader, everyone listening. And you still have to listen to what I'm saying.

I still have magical powers. I'm still better than the most. I'm not better than Barack. I'm not better than some people. Michael Avanti, you know him. Stormy Daniels attorney, probably not better than him. I'm not better than Harry Kane and the England national team. I'm not better than Marcus. He's just a random guy named Marcus, probably.

There's probably a Marcus out there that's better than. Ferdinand Marcus. Fuck Ferdinand Marcus. I'm better than him. But I want to introduce the room and enjoy. This is a very special night we have here. Very special. Do you smell it? No, I don't smell anything. We've got George.

George is my producer. If you're new to the podcast, don't clap. George is my producer and George is... I've never felt this about somebody. My feelings for this person shifts second by second. I look at him and I go, I want to hug him or to kill him. I want to touch him. I want to fucking hurt him. I hate him like him. He bothers me.

He's enjoyable. He's interesting. He's not. He's a fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. So that's you, but you know what? You're a human being and you deserve to be alive. You deserve to be alive and here. Okay? We've got Lipless. We've got just no lips in the closet, but he's a good dude.

He's got an Iron Maiden shirt on, which I love. Run! Run to the hills! Run! Love it. Diggin' it. We got this one right here. It looks like one of those Thai soccer players stuck in the case. What's the name? You got out? I got out, man.

Your team is still in the caves. We're trying to get out. You got out, huh? Who are you guys doing in the caves in the first place? I know. Looking. Scavenging. Scavenging. Yeah, why don't you start practicing on a field? I'm sorry. That's okay. We got my beautiful tulip flower with a little fucking thick ass Filipino calves.

I love it, man. Look at those strong Filipino foundation, man. Her lips are good from top to bottom. Pure. Something real. Really, I'm just blessed to be in front of your presence. And I'm just grateful every day. And now we have somebody, we have a guest guys, and you may, may not, may, maybe not, but you may know him.

I swear to God, man, and this is a fundamental thing I'm saying right now, man, is that I've always thought he was one of the best. He just did Rogan's podcast. He has the best Instagram in the market right now. It's so fucking funny. His impressions are fucking dead on, okay? That's my impression. No, I'm not done.

What did I fucking say, man? No, no, no, no, cut it. What did I fucking say, man? I thought you said the dog bark. No, I said not to say anything until, and you were doing fine because I want to say your fucking name, man. That was a great intro, too. I'm sorry. I know. I'm starting over now.

I'm doing the whole thing over now. Are you serious? Yes, I am. Do the countdown. Good thing. You want the slow countdown, too? Very slower, even. Slower? Yeah.

Really? Five, four, three, two, one. I'm emancipated and coagulated through the utmost supreme being of my mind. We're upwards and downwards, sideways. We're creating destinies and downtrodden, touching, creating, bilingual, bystanders, creating magic. Really, to be honest with you. Go, go, go, go.

And that was for England, for winning today. Go, go. We've got, we hit this one right here. No, this next guess we have is one of my favorites. And he, he's just great. And I'm just glad he was available to be here. And he's been on Reno 909, and he's been on other things. And the reason why he sparked my interest, I was just at the San Antonio LOL Comedy Club,

and he was scheduled to play. I saw his little head shot there, and he winked at me. The photo was great. Wow. And I went, you know what? That's the next guy. Let's get a round of applause for Kyle Dunnigan. Everybody clap your hands.

Now you may. Yeah. I'm so scared to talk. Why? I just don't know if I can talk it. Yeah, you can. Oh. Yeah.

That was a great intro. Are you being real? No, I am. And I really appreciate that. And I've, I always felt the same value. Just bobbily hilarious. Yeah. Great.

Oh, thank you. From the moment I saw you on stage. From the moment I like you. Just really pushing hard, but you know, you don't do that anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I've been a little lazy. You know, I'm kind of just here and doing my thing, you know, you're comfortable with your success. A couple of years ago, you and I talked, even saying that you and I might even pitch a sketch show. We thought about that. We. Yes.

I did forget you just said it, but yeah, Hollywood, I don't know why didn't didn't see. Yeah. To couple us together would have been a good idea. That would have been a great idea. We don't need Hollywood. Well, I'm on a sitcom. No. So I've left you.

That is. So. You really are. Straddling. You're straddling two worlds. Yeah, I understand. Like, are you a cool indie podcast guy? Yeah.

Or are you, you know, I can do both. Sell out. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Easy check every week. I don't want an easy check.

You want to work hard. I want to work hard. I don't want much money because it really takes down your legitimacy. Right. Like it's cool. Like, I don't know. Yeah. If I can afford next month.

Like that's an artist. That's an artist right there. That's pure. Yeah. That's the real thing. But I like what you're doing. Right. It's like, you know, it's cooler to go.

Did I get any sponsors this week? Yeah. Are you now, are you like, is a show a hit? I actually don't know. I love it. And I love, I'm glad you don't even know about it. It's the best job. What is to be on a sitcom as you don't have to write.

Right. You just come in with what eight, 10 lines. Five. I mean, that's the best job. It's the best. There's, I mean, there was literally one show I had three lines. Remember? Oh yeah.

You didn't see any of them. The one that you said eight. Yeah. Yeah. You hang out. You have a good time. You, you, you get paid nicely. I have a, I have feelings for it.

I have feelings about it that are both positive and negative. The, the positive one is, is that I have a good cast. I'm on, I'm on with Jenna Fisher and Oliver Hudson and Ellen DeGeneres produces it. It's called spilling up together. It's on ABC. Okay. Yeah. And, and I didn't read for it.

They just fall out of nowhere and say, you want to do it? That's awesome. But here's another reason I really do believe that Tiger Valley, this podcast for the last couple of years has like given me opportunities that I just never had. Yeah. And, and that that's thanks to the slept kingdom. Who does my followers that listen right now, the children, the children of the ever most they're called the slept kings.

Yeah. Kingdom. I'm the slept king. No, the slept king. I'm the slept king. And they're the what? And they're sleepers. Sleepers.

Yeah. They're sleepers. Oh, and then the young ones are nappers. You just created what they're called. Yeah. We've been working on that for three years. For three years. Sleepers.

Listen. That's what you are now. Don't take that. That might use that for my podcast. No. No, I stole it. I stole it. We're talking about a podcast before we started going on there.

Yeah. I think you should do one. I want to try. I mean, I've actually, I used to have one. Did you know that? No. What was it called? With Tig Natara.

We had one called Professor Blastoff. We just started making one. Really? And it was about kind of science stuff. It was really fun. You and Tig. How many did you do? We did like 300.

Oh my God. We started making real money and then she got very busy. And we like, Does it before she got sick? During and after. Wow. A little bit. And then she got busy.

And then she got real busy. Did you get angry because of her business? A little bit like, hey, come on. But not like, hold on, mad. What? Because she's doing like movies in her own show. Very busy. Very, very, very.

If you texted her, would she text you back? Her assistant was. She has an assistant. No, I'm just kidding. She's still friendly. Yeah. You're in a relationship now currently? With who?

Her name is Stephanie. Yeah. How'd you meet her? Mutual friend. It was like a weekend at like Big Bear. It's called Arrow Bear, but then that just causes problems. Let's just say Big Bear. Why does that cause problems?

Because everyone's like, what's Arrow Bear? What is it? Is that like like Arrowhead? But then Big Bear? Yeah, it's in between Arrowhead and Big Bear. It's called Arrow Bear. That actually angers me. You're right.

It's just called Big Bear. Yeah. It's like, where are you from? California. California is saying Stockton. Right. Like don't say Stockton. Say California.

So you just did the right thing. We were in Big Bear. I didn't do anything like hitting on her wives. I didn't do anything. Oh, wow. That's the best. I can't do it. Yeah.

And then because, you know, I was actually kind of sick of dating. I was in a kind of a funk. Yeah. But we, we continued talking and, you know, get along great and it's great. Yeah. I mean, did you? So she hit on you then? Yeah.

She was very like sneaky about you because you do date women. I've seen over the years. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. And I look at you and I go, why? Well, not only why. What? Huh?

Yeah. Who? Who? All of them. When? Well, I got a, I got a tactic. I could share with you and the audience. Yeah.

I would love, yeah. Because a lot of my sleepers, a lot of the sleepers are, they don't have girlfriends. Nappers, this is not for you yet. Yeah. I mean, you become a sleeper. Yeah. If you have one pubic hair, then you're a sleeper. I could be like nine years old with a pubic hair.

I think he's a sleeper then. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So we probably have like three nappers. Three nappers. Right now. But okay.

So what's your strategy? It's all about like the attitude. Like let's say. That's so gross. You be like, you be like a. I'm a girl. Let me be a girl. Are you a chick, right?

We're at a, what a barbecue? I'm. You're an aerobar. You're an aerobar. I'm warning you. You will get turned on. All right. And I'll, can I just say this?

I'm warning you. I'm going to try to play it as real as I can. Yeah. That's all. That's all I want for you. I'll tell you if it grows. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was going to be Kyle Dunn again. Yeah.

I didn't think it was going to be Mr. Douchebag. No, no. I'm still, this is the real me. All right. All right. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. No, I put on like.

Let's do it again. Yeah. But I'm going to give you what's up. Yeah. Let's. God, I really like the shimmer of the lake. Yeah. Well, you know what I like.

What? What? I like you. Oh. In my bed. Oh. Oh. Oh.

No clothes. Oh my goodness. Little strawberry action. What's that? Strawberry action. That's weird. You know what? I'm out of my, here's the thing.

I'm out of my helmet doing this because I'm rusty. This is. Wait. Is this part of it? Is this part of it? No. This is all part of it. Now I go like, oh, I'm just joking.

I wasn't really hitting on you. Wow. See, now you're off balance. I'm dizzy. I'm really. Let's keep going. And now I'm going to nag you a little bit. How about this?

I'll put you down. No, no, no. How about this? When you raise your finger out there that you're out of the scene. So I'm going to stay in the scene now because I thought that you were out. No. Let's go back in. Let's go back in.

This is my plan. So what? Oh, so you were just joking? Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like a regular guy. Oh. Why?

I was thinking that I was a regular girl as well. Yeah. Well, and here comes the nag. Yeah. Now you're cool. Like you're, I would hang out with you probably. Oh. Hey, where'd you get that purse?

Oh, this one? Yeah. It's a Kate Spade purse. Yeah. Those are like not in anymore, right? Why? You see how you feel? Yeah.

You're off. I got you. I'm like so dizzy. And angry. You need my reassurance now. Well, that's a little rude because I, anyway, I got it as a present. Yeah. Just kidding.

You see where I'm going? Wow. Yeah. Well, my name is Natalie. We're both not good improvisers. Well, don't say that. No. Yeah.

Yeah. Don't say that. This is another level. He's still in it. You're still in it. My name is Natalie. Mm-hmm. You would do that?

Yeah. Uh-huh. What's your name? That's fine. Natalie's fine. It's a name from like the 80s though, right? Yeah. The 80s?

Yeah. There's nothing I can do about it. Oh, that's cool. My close friends call me Nat. Hey, I got to go. What? But you seem cool, Nat. Why don't I hit you up sometime?

Well, I guess here's my number. Does that, so that's how it works? So that's how it works? Yeah. You know what? You're right. You did make me sweat. Here, touch my armpits.

Isn't it uncomfortable? How about your hands? Oh, my God. She's sweating. She's sweating like a motherfucker. In all seriousness, that's not what I do. I was trying to be cool for you guys, but I really, I don't know what. No, but I really like that a lot.

You know what that you got that from? What's that one book? The game. The game. Yeah. Do you read it? Yes. You did?

Well, I watched the show. Oh, the reality show. The reality show, which I loved. Is it a VH1? Yeah. I hated that guy. I missed that show. I thought he was a...

Oh, he was a... I hated that guy. I missed he's doing it now. Kind of a good friend of mine. Yeah. Mystery? That's my dad. I was on a radio show in Chicago called Man Cow.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he was on the show with me. And this is way years ago. It was single. Yeah. You should get my book. The game.

I go, Will, where can I get it? He's like, you know, anywhere. Aren't the nobles there? Yeah. And I went and got it. Yeah. It didn't work for me. It was like the Bible.

It wasn't like... Right. Because when I put a girl down, they don't... They're not intrigued at all. They just walk away. So the guy's full of shit because you remember he hit on me in front of you at the comedy store. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah. And I looked right at him and I was like, no thanks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he felt so good. Oh, shit. So he's full of shit. He doesn't have game.

He doesn't have game. No. I was with... I was with two girls and we were hiking. And this is called a two set. Yep. From his book or whatever. Two set.

So one guy, two girls, one of them is probably single. That's like you look at like a situation. Right, right, right. So he was wearing very crazy pants. That's another thing. Peacocking. This guy comes jogging... That's why I'm peacocking, right.

Up to us. And the show was very big at that moment. I was like really into it. So I was like, oh, this guy's like peacocking. And he comes like jogging backwards at us. And then he go... He nagged this girl that I was with. He said something like, those shoes are out of style, right?

And I was like, oh my God, he's the magician. He's the doing it. He's doing it. Yeah. Wrong word. It doesn't work, yeah. It's the correct person. So you've always had girls.

No, I'm not. I don't have that. Well, you... I mean, how long did you date Sarah Silverman for? Two years. A little over two years. That's a long... Do you guys live together?

No. No. How was... I mean, just... I'm not gonna... I don't want to get into it because I love Sarah. I don't want to... You know what I mean?

I'm not gonna get into it, but I just... I've always had this question. Is it... Yes, she does anal, but the thing is... It's not everyday. Yeah. It's such... No, but it was...

Because I'm such a... I'm a huge fan of both of you, but... Yeah, she's... Huge fan of hers. Yeah, yeah. I would not be able to date a famous comedian, I don't think. Is that hard? Well, I...

She's very independent, and I'm pretty independent, so... Right. I think it worked like that. Like, we would stay separate for like three or four days, and then we'd like sleep over or whatever. Right, right, right. So... And she was already very famous when I met her.

Oh, yeah. Huge. Like, I was dating somebody, and I was younger, and then they got huge that, I think, would bother me more than... Right. Like, she was already who she was. Because you guys are both in the same business. Business.

Yeah, business, yeah. I wouldn't know how I would feel about that if I was with a girl, we're at the same level, and all of a sudden, she's the biggest thing in the... You know? Yeah, what if she was terrible, too? Oh, my... That'll be the... I've actually seen...

Like, I have a friend who's like... He's an actor, but when it's actor friends, he's like, oh, it's like... Oh, he's not good. And then his actor friend, like, did pretty well. Oh, wow. But it's, you know... Yeah. It's hard.

Do you say those... You don't say those things, though, right? No. No. Yeah, yeah. She does say stuff like, you should write more. Oh. I mean, when you...

Things of that nature. Things to make you a more productive person. Yeah, she makes me more productive. That's good. Well, this podcast is because of her. That's great. Well, I just bought the mics. That's great.

And I gave him a schedule. That's all I did. That's what we need sometimes. Oh, no. I need it 100... I need... I'm so lazy and I'm so fearful and I still... I don't want to go on auditions.

I don't want to do anything. I don't go on auditions anymore. What do you mean? You get them, though? No. Why? I don't know. Do you have an agent?

Yeah. And they... Do you call them by, hey, where's the auditions? Yeah. I tell my manager, like, hey, what's going on? Right. And he's like, nothing. Okay.

But did you audition for SNL ever? Oh, yeah. I have an SNL store, if you want to hear that name, please. Yeah, yeah. Because I just want to say before you even get into it is that, I mean, obviously, I'm from the sketch world. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Not eight years on a sketch. I know a lot of... I know a lot of people. Yeah, yeah. I've been in the game. And I've... The mayor of Hollywood. Not that, but I'm Slip King.

Yeah. But I've seen... I know great impressionists. I know Frank Kelly, Endo Well. I know people like that. But I really believe that you're one of the best. Well, thank you. You're...

Trump is so good. Thank you. You're Caitlyn Jenner is so good. So funny. So funny. But so good at SNL. Go ahead. So, you know, as a kid, this is a dream of mine to be in SNL with most a lot of kids.

And it took me... I made like a tape of impressions I sent it in, and then they flew me out to New York to like do the test where you actually get mic'd and you go on the stage and everything like that. That's what I heard about you. Yeah. I was very nervous. Yeah.

How nervous? I mean, out of all the things you've done, it was the most... It was the 10 top. So I'm already like pretty peaked out and I'm in a hotel room for two days by myself running my six minutes obsessively, which is bad. It's bad, yeah. I'm trying to get it correct, which is not the right mindset, but anyway, I get there and there's 30 of us auditioning and it was like John Mulaney, Nick Kroll, like very good

people, and there was 30 of us. Oh my God. And... Imagine. Yeah. And I was just like, okay, I just don't want to go first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't play pretty God, but I decided to.

I was like, please God, not first. Yeah. So Lydia goes, all right, first is going to be Kyle Dunn again. Oh my God. And I was like, and then I did this whole thing of, you know what? Just do it. Just go first. It's going to be great.

I'm going to talk to myself. Yeah, yeah. So then I go in like this dress room and they're mic'ing me up and I feel like, ooh, I am very, very nervous. I can't even talk to people. Like the producer came in and... I've been there, I've been there, I've been there. And I literally like closed the door and the producer like, ah, I can't talk to you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I'm just in the mirror like, you can do this man, like, you do this is what you do. But I'm like, I'm out of my mind. So then I'm walking with the producer and the sound guy, you know, whatever, the camera guy is like with me. And I feel like I'm being walked to the gallows. Wow.

Imagine that. You are going to get your head chopped off. Wow. That was my feeling. I'm literally trembling. And so the guy goes, all right, I'm going to count you in three, two, one, then you go right in your stuff. Okay?

Three, two, one, then you go right in your stuff. And that is in my mind like, three, two, one, then you go right in your stuff. Three, two, one, then you go right in your stuff. I'm completely away from being a funny person. Just, okay. I walk out and we're in the Conan studio because the Olympics were happening and the SNL studio was taken for that. So the camera's in front, but everyone's to the left at a table, like Lauren Michaels

and everybody. Yeah. So I walk out. Boy, do you recognize, aside from Lauren, is there- Yes, Seth Meyer as I saw there. Of course, Seth is there, yeah. I was like, okay. I didn't know who to do what, say, or look, I don't know, to look at them and perform

or look at the camera. So I'm like, I'll look at the camera and then I'm waiting for that to count me in and nothing's happening. So I'm just standing there staring. Are you getting laughs at this point? Just standing there or no? No. It's dead silent.

Right. My head would be like, do something. Right. Do a little funny dance or- I was three, two, one, going to your stuff. I'm hanging onto this, like I'm squeezing this puppy heart. Right. Right.

So Lauren Michaels goes, are you okay? That's laughing at Seth. So then I'm like- That's laughing at Seth. I go into a deeper level of panic at this moment. Right. Are you sweating? I'm sweating and I'm trembling and I was like, yeah, yeah.

And then I go back to the camera and nothing's happening, like did like this. Is it a test that they do or maybe? Yeah. So then I go, and then Lauren says this, okay, he goes, oh wait, no, first he goes, hello, that's what he said first, like say hi to us. Oh. And I was like, hi. And then I went back to the camera and then nothing was happening and then he goes, are

you okay? And then I go, yeah, the guy, right when I said like the guy said, he goes, three. So I'm like back on my heels. And I don't have, I can't get to my facility to do impressions. Like I'm doing like a Bill Maher, it doesn't sound like Bill Maher, like I was too nervous to even form. Right. Oh my God.

And then I go to play, I'd like a piano, I'd play the piano, I'd like a song, I couldn't play the piano. Like I just couldn't get to my facilities. Oh my God. And that was it. But you know- Now wait, but what was the feeling when you're done and you're walking away? Dread.

What is the feeling? Dread. Dread. Yeah. So now you're leaving the side stage. Well, it's like your dream died. That's the feeling. Oh my God.

Oh my God. The feeling of your dead dream. Yeah. But look, here's the thing also. Yeah. I mean, that shows high pressure. It's live. I need to be able to perform in that kind of scenario.

That's why they do it. So I mean, really like it was my ready- That's why they do it. Yeah. They do it. Like the Instagram stuff, I'm not nervous. I'm at my home. Right.

But in many weird, in a weird way though, that too is a way into people's psyche is doing it the way you're doing it. Oh yeah. Yeah. I feel like, you know- Because I'm one of those performers that I can't perform really to my full ability with that much pressure. Yeah.

I need to feel like when I was shooting this show, because I hadn't done a pilot or show in like five years, that in my head I'm like, oh, this is it. You're getting old and you have to deliver. So when I was driving to the, because I would just offer the job, but, and so I had some of the weird dinner with everybody, like no one really said anything. And then a couple of days later, I'm driving to the table read and my agent called me and he goes, just so you know, this network and the studio is all going to be there. So he's listing off names and Channing and this, you know, Peter Roth and all these

names. He goes, this is your audition. You have to kill it. Do you wish he didn't say that to you? Yeah. And I go, what do you mean? And he goes, they've never seen you say these things, the script, so you cannot fuck up a word.

I don't think that's- I don't know. But I'm like, okay. The Ross. The Ross. Right. Get more nervous. Thank you.

Yeah. Yeah. So I hung up and then I remember shaking. Oh, right. So it's the same. It's not at that level, but still to in my world, that was pretty nerve wracking. That's a skill in and of itself audition well. It's totally separate from-

Exactly. Everything else. It's like being good at shooting hoops, but when it comes to like the game, you're three feet tall, like the hoops farther away from you, because you get nervous and- Or maybe when we're auditioning for the team, it's three feet tall, but when the real game- Right, right. We're LeBron James. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe that's how I feel about myself is that during the process of getting something, I'm not great. Me either. But when it's showtime, when it's legitimately ready, let's go, I'm on. And also when you're doing a single camera, you can do it 20, 30 times. Right? So it's like you have that.

But my point is that it is, you know, but you know what? We still have to be able to like overcome. And I was, we did a first table read and I was terrible. And then they gave me notes and they go, just slow this part down. You know what? We don't even know what you're saying here. And I'm like, I'm writing it all down on my script. And then we go in-

They don't know what I'm saying. No, no, no, but what I do, because a lot of times I rush it. Yeah. So what I'll do, if you look at all my scripts, I'll put a line between words. Oh, like a slash. A slash. I do that too. No, do you really?

I swear. I swear. I do that too. I circle certain words. It doesn't, it's not, it has nothing to do with enunciating it more or like it just, I just do it. Yeah. To separate with the word from the rest of the pack.

Yeah. Yeah. I only got one job, years of auditioning. I got one sitcom job. It was like, it was for a happy family and it was a recurring character. I never remember the sitcoms. Who was it? Who was in it?

It was like John Larraket and... Wow. Christine Lebransky? Yeah. That's not the name. Yeah, but... Christine Lebransky. Was that three camera or a single?

It was three camera. So I go in and I, my reading is, I have a very, I read like a third grader. Just, that's what I do. And so I get there and they're like, oh, we got some new lines for you. And it was the network read through. Oh my God. And it was like four auditions. It was a lot to get this far.

Sure, right. But I would memorize it. So now they plot me down with eight new lines and I'm a dyslexic maniac. So I stammered through this. Are you a dyslexic really? Yeah. And I didn't, I've never like been actually tested. So I, I may not be.

It's just some other problem, but whatever it is, I have to read a line a bunch of time. I don't just read a line and move on. Right, right. You're going to get bunkered down and figure out what that word is. And then we'll go to the next one. It's a long, boring thing. So I stammered through the whole thing and then they fired me. They did?

They fired. Yeah, right after. What, what, you got in your car and they fired you? Are they, well, they actually, I left and I knew I was fired. Oh my God. And then the next day I walked. I can't. How do you even?

They stopped me from coming in. That's your wish. Yeah. Another like funny thing. Cause it was like the cat director stopped me. Yeah. She was like waiting for me and she said something really funny. She goes, well, at least you're going to Iraq next week.

I was going to Iraq. Yeah. To do shows. The USO shows. Yeah. Like, but that wasn't a good thing. I don't want to go to Iraq. Yeah.

I get to look forward to going to Iraq and not being on a TV show. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. No. Let me say something. It took me down.

Like I haven't booked anything since. How long ago was that? 2003. What? I've booked sketch shows, right? But not any. I've never booked like a sick. That's why I don't go out probably.

It's so fucking crazy because it's like, you know, I've been watching you for years on stage and I know how other people talk about you. I really do. People just think you're a list. You really are. When you're a regular at all the clubs, everyone knows you and I, it just really, it baffles my mind that that's what's happened. Yeah.

Well, I, I mean, that is important to me and I appreciate that and that makes me feel like that I'm, I don't feel unlucky or like poor me that I didn't get any big shows. I feel like. I honestly, let me be honest with you and this is the, because sometimes I lie. That's why I have to keep saying that I'm being honest because like 90% of the, no, I don't really do 90% of the things I say as a lie. So when I'm saying something honest, I'm really trying to be like with no filter. Yeah.

No, I really appreciate that. Okay. This is that I think your day is coming. Yeah. I do. I believe 100% believe that. What, and can you paint the picture of what's coming for me? Well, I, this is what I believe that what's going to.

I'm ready for it. Because. Three, two. But I know, I know, but I'm going to just say this too is that you, I say that a lot as well. Can I say this? Because people say that. Yeah.

On comments. They go, why does he keep saying that? Can I just say something? So I'm going to quit. Cut that out. No. Okay. I just say something then is this is how it's going to happen.

Because already now, you know, you, all we needed to see really people to see is just on your Instagram, just the diverse impression of Trump, your Melania, and then to see what's her name, the girl, the trans Caitlyn Jenner, the transie, the transie and just the, the, the, the, the, the polar opposites, these impressions, right? So you can definitely, and they're dead on, I believe. And so that in itself is like, oh my God, this guy, you know, has range in that way. And also, um, if that's going to elevate you in terms of standup as well, it's going to draw people.

Yeah. It's going to draw more people in this. I'm telling you right now, the reason, okay, so the reason why I think I'm doing okay right now is because when I met her, I met her on Tinder and I literally had nothing. Not as good as Arrow Bear, but yeah, yeah, it's not Arrow Bear, but I had nothing in my career. Yeah. I did eight years of mad.

I had one other sitcom that I was on, but other than that, really no auditions. And, um, and I was to compare myself to other Asians, you know, so I go, oh, Ken's killing it. Randall Park's killing it. I can't even get, you know, all the whites, all these white people are doing well. So, um, and I met her and I went, you know, this is going to be my path here. Just being a real guy, you know, I want a relationship. I want to fall in love.

I want to, who knows if a family is down the road, but this chasing this fucking bullshit, it doesn't really mean anything. I know it seems like it does because of the state that we're in, the society where we social media is so like entangled into everyone's affairs and you get to see or a false glimpse of into somebody's life. A fake. Talk about fake news, you know, it's, it's a sterile. It's a, yeah.

Right. Very specific moment. So when you let it go and I just let it go and I go, it's over. It's fine. Yeah. I still do stand up on the road. That's I'm still making not as much a living, you know, and, um, I really love Kaila so, but she slowly, I was a puppy.

What? Yeah, she slowly got me back in the game and it was, I think all her and, and this podcast has a lot to do with it. Yeah. Um, her going because of this podcast and because Judd Apatow was, is he at the store? He, I just, he's kept, he keeps running into me because we get the time kind of close time slots. So when I got the audition for love and I read okay, um, he just gave it to me, right?

And then because I met this guy, Dean, he was a director at law. He did, he was so produced. He left the show to the sitcom I'm doing now. And when he goes, what about Bobby for this thing? Yeah. They're like, uh, and then they, he's great on love. Yeah. They go, will he read?

And he goes, he won't read. Yeah. They just gave it to me. So my point is, is that it's all connected in that way. So I, I, I honestly feel like this is the beginning for you. Well, I, I did have like a panic attack this last summer. I was writing for a show, a show, uh, Sarah's show, Sarah's so cool. Oh, cool.

It's like a cool show. This is it. When you were, were you still seeing her? No, no. Oh, yeah. We dated like, was that, is that weird though? Like you dated her and now you're writing for a show? It wasn't.

And which made me think, oh, she must've been the boss in the relationship because it wasn't much of a transition. Yeah. Um, but, uh, yeah. I just was having like waking up with panic attacks and just, I just saw my whole life as this writer and I was like, I don't, I want to like perform. Yeah. So I, so I quit that job, which I, um, really need money, but I, I had to, I had to like

try to do something. Right. So when you would do, now what is that decision like, like, no, I mean, I, okay, so this is the, let me just get, this is hard, but yeah. All right. So this is making me money. Yeah. I'm going to quit.

Health insurance. Right. Health insurance. I'm also around other people that are creative. So much feel good. I would think that it would feel good to be in a room with other people that, because I know what writing staffs are. Like when I, even at mad TV, you know, we had Mike Hitchcock writing.

He was on all the Christopher guest movies. Yeah. Yeah. He's a groundlings guy. He's really talented. Yeah. Um, he later produced Glee. But, um, we have, you know, even guys, a blank compatriot for a year and people like that.

So you're around other comedians or people that I've, you know, so when you make that decision, how does that, is that spontaneous or does, no, it was building, I, you know, I wrote, uh, for Insighting Me Schumer for four years and it's just like, it's a little bit of a trap. Even though they're great jobs, it's not exactly what, you know, we want to do. Yeah. I mean, imagine if you were just a, you know, like a staff writer, you wouldn't be, I'm not good at writing.

I mean, that's not my strength. I don't think it's mine either. Really? Yeah. I think that is one of your strengths. I think that is one of your strengths. Um, well, well, I, I just was like, I, I want to perform. I think that's was like an over.

I saw the energy and the time and plus like I felt like the time is running out. Like I'm getting older and it was just like, I felt like I was in Nakoma. And I kind of woke up and was like, no, this is, you're on this path. I didn't even realize that I have like moments of like panic, like, you know, that's scroll you do online to put in your birthday and you're like, zing, zing, that, yeah. Like throws me into it. Longer and longer. Wow.

I've been a venture holder. You know, 47. We're the same age. Are we? Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. 71.

You're born. Yeah. That's incredible date. We should be closer. September. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not being real.

I'm too. Like I was a great time. Great vibes. Same age, but we don't hang out. We don't hang out. And also on top of it is, is that I, when I was looking for your number, I couldn't believe I didn't have it. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. So I had to go through Instagram to get it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have mine as well. I may do now, but no, I didn't.

You didn't have it. I had to see it. See if it grows. I would, I would love that. I have. Let's see what happens. Right now I have, I think I have two friends. I'd love a third.

Who's your friends? My friend, Kevin. Is he a standup? No. Uh-huh. My friend, John. Is he a standup? Yeah.

John Bush. But he's not, he's John Bush. He lives in Iowa. Well, you have a friend in Iowa? Yeah. Not bragging. It's a fact. Yeah.

Yeah. He's a close friend. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have, I mean, cause I don't have a lot of friends. That's a good sign. It's hard. Is it?

Well, I thought it was a bad sign. Especially living here, cause people just, um, they take pride in having 150 acquaintances. I am. And always having that like being in a social circle. And I think that it's humanly impossible to, um, make that many people happy or to be genuine, genuinely yourself around that many people. That's true. Yeah.

Or to offer a real kind of friendship to more than three people. Absolutely. Yeah. Can't put the time in. Yeah. Cause everything else is just diluted after that. It's just a diluted friendship. Nobody has that kind of energy to be truly a friend.

Yeah. I do have like satellite friends. I talk to not that much. Right. Is that what they call them? Satellite friends? Satellite. Satellite.

Outer consensual circles. Satellite nappers. Would this be, so you and I, let's just be honest, you and our satellite friends. I don't even, when I, I'm not even a satellite friend. I think we're even satellite friends. Well, yeah. We don't even have each other's number. Right.

So what now? No, but no. So what would I be then? You. I mean, you. A guy. I love everyone. Anyone brings up.

I love Bobby Lee. But is it an acquaintance? It's more than that. It's less than satellite friends. We could, we could. Let's create it. Can we say a name for what it is? We'd have to make it up.

Let's make it up. There's no other word. On the count of three. More than acquaintance, less than a satellite friend would be a, um, hoof. A hoof. A hoof. A hoof. A hoof.

You're a hoof friend. I'm a hoof friend. Okay. You're a hoof friend as well. Like it's, who is that? Who's my friend? A hoof. A hoof.

Well, right. When did you guys first meet? I have no idea. Do you remember the. Must have been at the store. Probably in like 2000. Yeah. I mean, I've known him for a very long time.

I remember our first interaction. I went. Oh. And you went. Yeah. In the darkness. Yeah. Probably in the OR.

Yeah. Like your comedy. Yeah. Yes. You're one of those. You're good, man. Yeah. It was one of those.

Let me ask you. How do you, did you always know how to do impressions? Uh, yeah. I used to do. That's the first time I got attention. What was the first one you did? Girls. I did like Michael Jackson for this, this popular girl that I loved.

Yeah. So that was like. How do you do a Michael Jackson? I don't know. Please try. Try it. Try it. Try it.

Try it. Try it. Try it. Try it. Try it. Try it. Try it. Try it.

Try it. Try it. Try it. Try it. Try it. How did it, how did it dance thing? I would do the whole thing. Wow.

Whatever she needed. But she wrote Michael Jackson on her shoe, and then one day she erased it and it hurt my feelings. Oh really? I felt like that was like. Yeah. Oh, we over this? Did you get girls back then?

No. Yeah. You probably only got girls as soon as you started with stand up, huh? Probably like late 20s I started to feel more comfortable. But, but, uh, yeah, I was very, um, non aggressive. Hmm. but in my head, I have like a fantasy. But I missed a lot of like science.

It's one girl in college at a party and I'm very focused on trying to get some action here, you know? And this girl's like, you're coming home with me. Okay, so you go in your head, oh, I'm getting some action. But me, I'm like, huh? But I don't know what you're doing.

Yeah, yeah. So let me go to her bedroom. She takes off all her clothes except for panties, gets in bed, she's like, get in a bed with me. So I get in the bed and I just lie there. I did nothing. But anyway. It's the game.

Wait, stop, stop, stop. Stop. Yeah. You didn't try anything. No. Why? I honestly didn't think, like, I thought it would be rude. Like, I didn't think, I didn't see any of the science.

And then I liked her after, and then she was like, all over me. Oh, you did it? She was over me in terms of like, she was like. You never did it then. I didn't do, I left her like. Oh, this fucking guy. I know, but, but who's over here?

Who's over here? What a fucking loser. Yeah. Oh, man, that was the worst. Out of all the stories you've told, that was the most upsetting one. Yeah, yeah. That's the most upsetting one.

You bombed. I bombed out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's a couple of stories like that where I look back and oh, were you always able to do the Trump on? Terrific. No, but how do you do? OK, look.

Mr. Thanks. I didn't want to do, I don't want you to make it, you know, but it's just so good that, you know. Thank you. Yeah, I've actually been doing him for years and years. Oh, so when he won the presidency, you were like, ding, ding. Kind of, I was like, oh, good. Well, what are the other impressions

that you were doing for years that it. You people, do you really think, you know, Bill? Oh, Bill, but it's very good. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, because a lot of impressionists that do the hacky ones, do you do the hacky ones as well? Well, well, well. If it is an old Jack.

People all do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People do like Christopher Wacken. Yeah. Wacken's a big one. What else is another? Joe, if I see. Wacken.

Joan Rivers. Oh, no. Look at those people. Yeah, yeah. Dinero is a big one, right? Yeah, I don't really do because they're covered. Yeah, they're covered. Yeah, they're covered.

Yeah. Because Jeff Richards is very good as well. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love his Bill O'Riles. His Bill O'Riles is very good. But then there are some ones that he do that you're just kind of like, oh, yeah, it's fine. I'm trying to find new ones because I just want to,

I'm thinking who in pop, who do people want to stay? In pop culture. Yeah, like Kaylin Jenner, people have wanted to see. Right, that's yeah, that's what else is something that's in the pop culture. You know what, like someone to work on, I'll work on it. And then I'll call you as that person and see if you think it's that person.

What about like a news person like that's like, Anderson Cooper would be hard. I think that would be. Come on, Broca. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, then there's, who's that guy? Chris Cuomo, is that hard? I haven't tried.

Yeah, but if you can do a Chris Cuomo, if you could find the thing. Chris Cuomo's face, yes. Yeah. Remember that guy who did, I could do that guy who did the, to catch a predator? Of course, yeah. Oh, here, how about Rachel?

What do you have? His screen name was Boner95. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing here? Oh, yeah, yeah, can we do that? Let's do, I'm a predator. Why do you want to be the predator? I want to be the predator.

Yeah, yeah, please, let me be the predator. Have a seat. Yeah. What are you doing here? I know, I was just in the neighborhood and I, let me read your transcript. What? You said, I want to put my penis in your tiny asshole.

You knew she was 12 years old. I was just testing it out. They say that a lot by the way. You were testing it out. Yeah, I just wanted to see if she, you know. And I suppose this was you also testing it out when you said, I want to lick you all over, LOL. I think he said that at one point.

Yeah, yeah. LOL. I miss that show. I love that show so much. And the only reason they took it off the air is because someone blew their head off. That's the only reason. Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean?

No, what do you mean? Some guy got caught and then like was in a barn and killed himself. And then they were like lawsuit, cut, stop the show. But then he did something like similar on some of their channel, but it was like not as... Right. Because they would really trap people.

Not that they didn't deserve it, but like it was super... Can I ask a question? And I don't want to get in trouble. So get the fucking editing thing. So just baby, just look at her in the eye that she just gave you. Oh, she gave you a... She gave you network eyes.

Yeah, she gave me network eyes. She gave me the network eyes. But I saw a couple, like the kid is 19, right? And if they... Let's just say this, if the girl says she's 16, 17, which is never the case. But, and if the ages are three or four or five years, does that kid deserve his whole life to be ruined?

No, absolutely not. And plus 18 is such a... That's a chosen number here. Cause even in the Philippines where I grew up, it's not uncommon. I mean, sure it's still considered a statutory rape on paper, but it's not uncommon for a 16 year old to date.

A 24 year old. Or even when I was 13, I dated an 18 year old. Yeah. And was I ready to suck dick? Probably not. Yeah. Probably would have been very good at it. I had braces, so not very.

Boaters, rough. But yeah, so it's, yeah, it's like, it's murky water. Her screen name is Bracess ninety-five. She says, will you take my virginity? Oh well. Hee hee hee. When he reads like the girl's thing, he's like hee hee hee. Yeah, yeah, it's weird.

Cause that's a weird thing for me. What? Cause at 16, I was making dumb decisions, but I was conscious of my decisions, dating older men, you know? Yeah. And looking back at my god, he was such a sleazebag cause he was 30 and he was totally preying on a 16 year old.

But I was of mind. I was pretty clear about what I was getting into. It's just different. I don't know, maybe in different countries, it's just, I don't, I didn't grow up here. So I. Yeah, they don't mess around. I mean, if you're a kid right now listening.

Yeah. And you're 18. Yeah. Just only date. 18 year old, that's what I'm saying. You're gonna get a big troll. I'm not telling you that it's right or wrong. I'm just saying.

The environment. At that time, when that show was on, if you were on that show, right? Okay, there was one with the rabbi. He was a 60 year old rabbi and he wanted to suck a 12 year old boy's dick. That guy should be in prison. That's a, he's a predator.

Well, wait a minute. Yeah. He has a great personality and he ate all the brownies on the kitchen table that I limped out for him. His screen name was rabbi boner 95. Yeah. Because I did a show once and this girl goes, afterwards, you know, you take photos with people

and this girl goes, oh, my kids love you. Oh, you have two kids? And she looked young. She looked like she was like 20, 19, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, I have two kids. One of them's like eight. The other one's five.

And I go, eight. And she goes, yeah, I had him when I was 12. Oh my God. And I go, oh. And yeah, and the father was 28 or something. And I go, oh, I felt uncomfortable. Yeah. We're not together anymore.

No shit. No shit because he, you have to go to school and graduate. Yeah, and he has a job. Could you find your pony stickers, dude, Matthew? Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. And imagine it being the parents of that girl at 12.

What do you do? I mean, because you just push the kid away if you're like, don't date that guy as a perv. No, but if your daughter at 12 said I'm pregnant, I mean, what do you do? And then he knocked her up again at 15. Different guy. Oh.

What would you do? I would say, let's get in the car. We're going to go visit a doctor. You would? I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me too. I think so.

I think we'd visit a doctor. I mean, a 12-year-old having a kid. Yeah. It's not to. Yeah, but Jesus doesn't like it, though. You know, Mary was like 13, 14. That's true. No.

Yeah. That's the thing about that story. Did you hear that? Mary was 13, 14. She'll lower the age of 14. I believe it. The 15 is the highest they think she was. Wow.

She's like 14. And how old was Joseph? Yeah, Joseph. Well, that's the thing. I think he was a carpenter, so you got to be at least 20. But here's the thing. The idea, like back then, you could not get pregnant back then and not be married.

Like, you had to lie and say something magic happened. Right. You had to. Yeah. You couldn't be like town whore and be shunned. You got to be like, yeah, there's magic, baby Jesus in Mexico. Well, I mean, like the singer was like, Great Balls of Fire.

That guy, he was getting his cousin, and she was 13 or 14, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's weird. It's just, we're not, and Tiger really does not condone that. We know it's illegal. It's wrong. We don't condone it.

These are just hypothetical situations that we're bringing out. I feel like those lines are blurry because even society allows it. Tiger was fully fucking Kylie Jenner when she was like 16, 17, but they just never admitted to being in a relationship. But as soon as she turned 18, they're like, yeah, we're fucking. We're married. So I'm like, yeah, he had been, you know, it's.

Right. Right. Just don't admit to it. You don't admit to it and then wait to the magical number of 18. Tiger have a seat. Yeah. But like in other countries too, the ages are different.

You asked Kylie to send you a picture of her, her who nanny. No, I just said that. Yeah. Now, doing when you do Caitlyn and the, and the girls. Yeah, baby. Yeah. But when you do the girls, right? Yeah.

How long does that take? Because you have, if you go to everyone listening right now. Oh, yeah. Follow Kyle Dunnigan right now. Kyle Dunnigan one is my handle. Is it, you're verified, correct? Yeah. Kyle Dunnigan, not, she's not putting out much comedy.

Yeah. But follow Kyle Dunnigan. Not one. Kyle Dunnigan one. Yeah, one. Come on, man. All right. Follow Kyle Dunnigan one.

It's verified. But he does great impressions. But you do, how long does that those videos take? Because it seems like when I'm watching it, I'll just take, take all the. It used to take a long time. But what I'll do is I'll literally write, have to write out a script and have like specific lines.

So when I film it, it's like, I'll do the main person first. Like if Caitlyn's like talks the most, I'll do that out. And then I'll email that to myself or airdrop it to my computer and I'll turn it really low. And then I'll get dressed up as someone else. Yeah, as a different woman. Yeah.

Like Kim Kardashian. Yeah. And then I'll play that and I'll be able to do my lines back. And I'll be able to hear, but no one else can hear that I could hear. So that syncs it up perfectly. Wow. The first one is the hardest one to do.

And what I do is I mouth, in my mouth, the other person's line, so it's like pretty well timed out right now. Oh, so there's no, that's one of the tricks. The timing, because in my head, I'm like, God, the timing must be really difficult because you have to wait for them to talk as well. The first time I did it, it was like five hours. Because I'd also figure out the editing,

I'm getting a picture and picture and all that stuff. Yeah. And then to play Trump, you just get that through an app. Yeah, there's like filters and stuff like that. The Kim Jong-un, well, did you know Kim Jong-un? That was Kim Jong-un. That's pretty racist. It was racist.

That was my goal. That was my goal. Well, how did you do it? I was worried about doing it. Kanye, because I was like, you know. Oh, you can do Kim Jong-un, but not Kanye. You fucking asshole. No, I mean like society-wise.

I felt like white guys. Society-wise. This is a blackface feel. I didn't want that to be thought of. But it's his actual face. Can you say white Kanye? Just say do a face? Yeah.

Maybe you could do that. I don't know. Well, I did the Kanye. No one seemed to be offended. Oh, you already did it? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you did? Yeah, yeah.

With blackface? No, it's his filter. It's his face on my face. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, where's the line? I don't know. There is no line. Because your intentions, you're doing impressions.

I try to- Yeah. I played John McCain in fucking Matt TV. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah. And not only did I do John McCain- John McCain.

Yeah, mine was terrible. I'm not even going to do it. But when they called me to do John McCain, I got, yeah, I can't do it morally. I can't do it. And they go, why? I go, because we're the ones that fucked up his arms. Oh.

Yeah. He was captured by Asians, right? And we fucked up his arms for five years. Are you Vietnamese? No, but you know what I mean? I'm Asian. Yeah. Really?

He knows the difference? Why'd you do that? He's turning on the TV and he's like, oh my god. One of them gooks is playing me. Why'd you fuck his arms up? Why'd you do that, man? Yeah, he's like a good guy. Not only that, did we let him live, not we.

That's cool. Yeah, yeah. He's a big John McCain fan, your dog. This is so just. You guys, you guys, I don't know if we've given away Fritter yet, but Fritter's a great dog. After all this whole time barking. Yeah, I just can't.

These many animals, I can't sleep good. Well, it's just a puppy. This is a wild puppy. I know, but you're like, what are you tweeting, man? No, I just, I actually thought of something, which was, I should remember, like I just thought of like, to send myself, I forget which impressions I do, and you reminded me, so I was just gonna send myself.

Oh, wow. Because I forget. Yeah, yeah, you do forget. I love you, man. Hey, I like you, but I am falling in love with you. I feel myself falling in love. Yeah, what are you doing, George? You're fucking it up.

Trying to get it out of bed. My nephew said having a one and having a number in your Instagram name, he's like 18, he's like, it's not cool, man, type of number. Wait, you have a nephew? Yeah. And he, does he follow it? Yeah, yeah, he's a great kid, but he like,

lets me know what's cool and what's not cool. He's like having a number, you know, like. Kyle Donagin won. Bobby Lee, yeah, Bobby Lee 71, if I did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I almost did Bobby Lee 71. Not even for email addresses anymore. I didn't know that wasn't cool.

It's like a, I think only 40 year olds and up do that. Oh, great. What's underscore? When did underscore happen? Underscore is still okay. But what is it? Why did they do that again? Because the non-underscore is taken.

I'm worried if I change my name, it'll screw everything up. Well, I mean, you wouldn't lose the followers, right? I don't know, like, would you lose? Cause if you're verified, I don't think you can change your name. Yeah, no, you're Kyle Donagin, number one, whatever, number one. Yeah.

What is the number? One. One, yeah, you're Kyle Donagin one. You can't change it. Who cares? Who gives a fuck? Well, my nephew. I know, but I'm just saying though that it's like,

people are finding it. And if some douchebag out there named Kyle Donagin, already has the name. I mean, there should be a thing though. Wait, Holden, did you try writing him and saying, hey, can I have, can I buy the name? Yeah, maybe I should do that. Cause I tried with mine.

Cause there's a Kaleila out there. And she has one photo and she never responded. Let me pay you and she would, she just never responded. Yeah, there are Bobby Lee's out there. I just want to go, just don't even let it go. There's like seven Kyle Donagins. I was like, really? I mean the world?

Yeah. Well, there's so many, there's a steel guitarist, a white old man. I love him. Who's Bobby Lee? Yeah, he's a Bobby Lee. He's pretty famous too. He's pretty, yeah, but if you Google it,

it must drive him crazy. Because if you just put Bobby Lee in Google, you know, it's the first 25 photos is me. So it feels so good. But I know that he Googles it. And he has to put Sly guitarist. Right. Oh, you can't just say his name.

So I just, you know, I heard him every day, I believe. You know. That feels good. Yeah. I can't, I can't. I'm going to say, I'm going to get real, I'm going to get real. I'm going to just say this real quick. And, you know, I posted a photo a couple of days ago.

This is maybe a week ago. And there was a commenter who really hurt my feelings. And I responded to him. You read your comments still? You have something? Yeah, this one really got to me. You know, I'm going to let you speak. Yeah, I just want to interject.

OK. My feelings, it's so hurt. I know. But I can't even. Yeah, and I responded to him. And then he responded back again with a longer thing. What do you say? Well, can I just read it?

Yeah. I feel like you're just giving him, you're going to. That's what I knew that this is what we were going to say. Don't give out his name. I'm not going to say his name. Yeah, definitely not. Can I just, what, he has no, this person that commented has no photos on his.

Always. They're always. Instagram. He has really no followers. And then he follows like 20 people. Yeah, I want to know what hurts you. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Yeah, but you're involved in it. Oh, shit. That's good. I already get enough shit as is. I don't want to hear it. This is what he said, though. We'll just do it. OK.

Let's deal with it. Write new material you, you has been comedian. Right then and there. OK, just don't mention my name. I'm not going to. And don't let your gold digging girlfriend write it for you. She's funnier than you. Oh.

Yes. Yes. Yeah. There was a turn. There was a turn. It was a hurt, right? I'll take that gold digging. Yeah.

She's funny. Yeah, that was. And then it's so crazy because as soon as, and then I said, OK, I said something like that. You said OK. No, I'm trying to find it. But the reason why I can't find my comment is because. Because he deleted it?

No, because over 100 people responded defending me. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. I mean, just like you fucking fuck that boy. Or I'm just reading it real. Fuck David's girl. Then shit on his carpet, right? OK.

LOL hater. Bobby, damn, my family and I love you. Don't give up now. Can I read it as Chris Hansen? Well, OK, so here, let me just stop for a second. Let me just go for the beginning then. There's so many. Wow.

I mean, look, 73. I mean, just read. Let her read something. Yeah, any of them here. He's a clown. You have glasses? But you don't know how to read. Yeah.

I think you're dyslexic. I'll show you my reading skills. All right, go ahead. Well, when I do, I'll, yeah. Oh, yeah, this is a bad idea for me to do. Oh my god. Jared Camacho 18 says, what twist? This is actually George.

I don't know what that means. Whoa, that's him. That's George. Oh, George. Yeah, yeah. Is it you? Trish Tyson writes, at David, 2013, you are the problem. LOL.

So much better as Chris Hansen. Very good. But why do we get so sensitive? I don't know. That's not healthy. No. I mean, it's sort of like unexpected, because we're kind of making things for free.

Someone is that mad. They are like, I have got to let this person know that I don't like them or something. It just feels. Do you get it with the Trump stuff? Sometimes. And I try not to make it political, because I don't want to ostrichize anybody.

But the worst ones, though, the ones that hurt me the most when they're like, hey, man, love your stuff. You're great. But this one kind of sucked. Like when they're like, you know that they're trying to be like, oh, this really must suck if they're like that. Those hurt the most. And because you spent so much time writing it

and putting it up there and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, it hurts my feelings. I know, but it's so weird, because when I look at someone like Joe Rogan, I feel like he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't. That's great. And I think I'm getting there a little bit.

I feel like now I'm ignoring them a little. I'll tell you why that's personal, right? Because I don't have any new material. I don't write a lot. And so that's number two. What made me mad about it was bringing her into it. Oh, but they always bring me into it. At this point, my armor is getting pretty.

Yeah, impenetrable at this point. Yeah, the more successful you get, the more they come out and want to like, you know, take a little piece of you or if you're female. I feel like even on this having this podcast, every time we have a female guest who I think just knocks it out of the park, we collectively think that, whoa, that was an amazing podcast.

When Whitney did our podcast afterwards, when she left, I was like, that could have been the best. That was amazing. And it was, it was, it was blood. It was, it was a blood fest. Yeah, but every female guest we've had on here. Yeah, Natasha. No matter how good.

Blood fest. Maybe it's like, here's a theory. It's like angst boys who aren't getting laid. And there's some energy, extra energy against women because they're just like, got some frustration and angst. But I don't have, and I've said this before, any feeling of that toward women, I never have. I've never, like when I see, like what I remember

back in the day when Ellen did her first half hour, this is probably in the 80s. And my parents had just gotten an HBO. And when I saw her first half hour, I went, oh my God, I had like a spiritual awakening. And they were all joked. She didn't do what I generally liked, which is back then, you know, I was also introduced

to like Bill, what's his name? Cosby. Not Bill. Not Cosby. No, the one that died, Bill Hicks. So Hicks, you know, was around, knew, but I watched him on HBO as well. And I went, but still I went, this girl is so silly.

And her, she's a good joke writer. I've never seen jokes like that, so absurd in that way. And I really love her. I love to see her live. And then I would tell friends, I go, you got to check out this Ellen DeGeneres thing. And they're like, fuck that girl. And then you're like, what?

No, I won't watch it. She's a girl. The girl's not funny. And then you're like, you're a kid, right? You're in high school. And you're like, that's ridiculous. Why does anybody have that in them as a guy? I wonder if it's part of it's too like, you know,

if you're a guy feeling like hurt by women in some way, and less, like a lot of young guys feel like they have a lot less power than women. So they already feel like they're powerless. They can't get them. The girls don't like them. And then a girl with a success in power on top of just being a woman and being attractive woman.

It might be like they feel even more, am I making any sense? No, 100% yeah. All of a sudden that person starts to feel like an oppressor of sorts, where it's like reminding them every day of something that they want but can't have. What does that have to do with upbringing too?

Maybe they hate their mother. Is that tied into it? Yeah, maybe, totally. I mean, I know a comic, I can't say his name. I can't never say his name. But I know one comic, his mom's still in his life. His parents are still together.

And he's just like, yeah, it looks like my dad way more. Why? Your mom's so cool. I don't know what it is. I think just some guys just don't, you know? I love it. Why'd you make that face? No, because I believe it. It's sad.

Because I fucking love, I love my mom so much more than I love my dad and I love my dad so much. I love my dad so much, but there is, I love my mom. She beat me, not as mercilessly as my dad. She would not do closed hands like my dad would. I like that, that's kind. Open hand. Hit me open hand.

That's love. She has made my face bleed. She beat my head facing like 20 times once. But I love her for it. And because when I went to my rehabs, it was her. You're sick, you need to go to rehab. You do too many drugs and crying. And I just, when I was a kid, I would be like,

you're right mom, you know, she was the one that saved my life. She took me to the rehab. My dad didn't even show up. He had been too busy working. I love him, he paid for it. But she was there like all the, most of the group meetings where you had family.

I went to three rehabs in high school. She would show up, not know the language as well and try to like read the books, like the codependency books and all that stuff. And she's trying to learn about it because she wants me to live. You know, so for me, and I know this about my brother, it feels the same way.

I don't really have anything bad about women. They never give me pussy because I'm unfuckable. I disagree. Thank you. But I was unfuckable until I stand up. But you know what, without the pussy, if I had pussy, no stand up. Interesting.

Everything that I have is through not having something. I get that, right? To strive to go, oh, I don't have that? Well, I'm gonna work my fucking ass off. What do I have to do to get that? To get that, right? I have money now. I didn't have money in my early 20s as a stand up, right?

But I'm like, you know what? I need to make money. And I'm gonna stay in this thing until I have money. I'm gonna stay in this thing and I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get pussy, you know? And those are my motivations. My motivation now, I still have motivations that people don't know.

What are they now? I'll tell you what they are now. One of my motivations is, and I'm gonna say this out loud. Somebody mentioned, you know, Ellie Wong is the number one Netflix special of all time. Yeah, oh, nice. And I went, I know, that's what I said.

Oh, nice. I love her, I do. I love her. She's great. But in my new motivation is to beat her. Oh, yeah. And I- At stand up.

What? No, just I want to be able to do a special that people, that's gonna resonate with people. It's gonna be hard to beat because she's got the women on lockdown. I understand that. She's pregnant too. And pregnant.

And Asians. I look like I'm pregnant, right? She's the same shirt and everything. But I know how funny I am. I believe in you. No, I really, I know how fun, I know how funny I can be and I'm gonna be. It's not ready yet, but I'm gonna get there.

Do you feel like you'll ever be like, I'm done? No. And that's the sad thing about, but it's great. Yeah. I don't want, I mean, here's the thing. When I lay on my deathbed. Jesus. I know.

And this is a blanket. It's called improv. Object work. Yeah, thank you. Space work, it's called, but whatever. Yeah. Second city. Boys growling.

They also, they clap like, meanwhile. So when I'm on my deathbed, right? I'll tell you what's not gonna be in my head. God, I wish I would have done stand-up. I wish I didn't, you know, work at that office job. 40 years. Yeah. You know, that's not gonna be in my head.

The little things in my head are like, God, I should have won an Emmy. I should have really focused on acting little, you know, like really getting into the parts more. But I was just like, just memorizing lines and stuff. You know what I mean? Like my things are gonna be like, just little things that bother some,

but not life altering things of like, I should have changed my whole entire trajectory of my life. Now you've got me thinking, what do I think? I'm on my deathbed. Do the blanket. Do the blanket. Let me do some. Yeah.

Oh. It is. Oh. Whoa. What? Yeah, well. Cuddling up. Yeah.

I mean, I might think, like I don't have a family yet. Maybe I'll be like, I should have had a family. No. Oh my God, there's a dog coming. Oh, you came to say hi. As soon as you say that, I don't have a family. That's my family. I might, I might, I don't, I don't know.

What's going on? It's so far ahead. That's it? That's what you're gonna say. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. He's still under his blanket. Yeah. I wish I wasn't on to catch a predator.

Yeah. I mean, I don't think I'm gonna have too many regrets. I also feel like, I read this book called Red. I listened to it, let's be honest. I didn't read anything. What's it called? It's called Free Will by Sam Harris. I wanna read it.

Sam Harris is awesome. And that gave me a little mind screw up, but I think it, it's sort of that you like, not blame yourself for stuff. Like back then. It's called Free Will. Yeah. And is it a new book?

Relatively. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do for the Hawaii, because I'm going to Hawaii tomorrow. I'm gonna listen to it. I don't know if that's a Hawaii. It's a, it might mess up your head. Yeah. Philosopher.

Why? Like your brain doesn't want to believe this. Sam Harris and Richard Dawson. I'm doing Free Will tonight. I mean, for the plane tomorrow. Because it really like, you have to dissolve like, all ego to really believe this. And it makes you feel like you're completely powerless.

But I actually think it's true. Like the more I think about it. But it's Free Will by Sam Harris. Yeah. Okay. Check it out. Yeah, but what is the general? The general thing is, you really have no Free Will.

No choice. No choice. I mean, every, you can look back. Everything is a product of your life experience and your brain chemistry. The choices you made, you feel like you author your life, but you, you don't think your thoughts, they just pop into your head and you react to them

because of history and because of your brain chemistry. And that's what's going on with everything in your life. Oh my God. What's your favorite color? My favorite color is probably like a lighter green. You didn't choose that. Why? My favorite color is light.

I feel like you can just copy that for me. No, I sort of got it. Here's the thing. Did you consider the color lavender? Did you consider that? Or mauve? I don't like lavender. Did you think of mauve when you were picking colors?

No. So did you have Free Will to pick mauve if you didn't even think of it? Yeah, but the thing is, I don't know what mauve is, but I understand that, but I know that I've been looking at colors for a very long time. Yeah, yeah. Since the dawn of my existence.

Right. I've seen fucking colors. Yeah. Because I'm not color blind. And the thing is, is that I remember one time, probably, I don't really remember the specific moment, but I'm pretty sure I saw all the colors at one point. In my head, I went, you know what?

I think that's all the colors to see. I had, my parents didn't give me the 12 coloring. I remember my mom gave me like the 84 one. The bigger box. Yeah, the big box where it had all. The layers. The layers, right? Tears.

Tears. Yeah, the tears, right? And I got to look at all of them. And I think generally, it had all the color. I mean, I'm sure there are like lighting and there are things that could, but generally as a concept of color, it's all there. And I went, that's my favorite one.

But what did it, for me, green makes me feel some type of way. Mine. It's some type of like. No, mine's a Soviet green. A Soviet, that's not light green. Yeah, it's like a lighter green. Oh, you're right. Right.

So like Kim Jong-un, like if you look at like anything like, I mean, is this your argument? For free will, for free will, is this your free will argument? The communist greenest. I like communist green. And I'm not from Russia. I'm not from North Korea. So what are you saying?

What I've said for free will. Yeah. I do want to hear more about what I'm saying. What I am actually trying to say is, is that I think that everyone should get paid the same. Yeah. Equal paid me too. Right, yeah.

Hashtag me too. Exactly. I feel like we should be able to wait in line for our bread. We should all get the same bread. Right. And I think that we shouldn't be able to listen to like music and stuff. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah. I love that. No, I just love like if I see Soviet art, I'm being real. Like if you see like, who's that guy that does the obey posters and stuff? What's his name? The blind guy? Michael Obey.

Michael. Love that guy. You know him? You know I'm talking about the artist? He's going blind. Shepard Ferry. Thank you, Lip List. If I see like a Shepard Ferry, sometimes he'll

have like a, you know, some Soviet colors in his artwork. I'll always go, yeah, I like that green. Right, right. OK. If I go to like a, I'll tell you, the Korean spa that I go to, on 6th and Ardmore. OK. I might go there tonight with my brother.

If you guys want to meet us, no, this is not being released for the next week, so it doesn't even matter. But I go there and the whole place is Soviet green, the inside. It just makes me feel peaceful. OK, well, that's a real reason that it's Soviet green. So I don't know about this free will bullshit. Well, you didn't really make an argument against free will.

You just said you like the color green. You just talked about it was your favorite color. What you're saying is that I was conditioned somehow, predetermined and like it or is that what? You don't know exactly like why you find that warm and fuzzy. And you could, you can come up with reasons like, oh, I was having, I was on vacation and I was in a good mood and I saw this green thing. Yeah, yeah.

For some reason it spoke to me. But it's still there's like a little bit of a mystery there. You're right. Because it's technically not free will. It's still shaped around based on the experiences you have. Feeling that you get from it, but you're not really. Choosing it. I'm not the person to articulate this argument.

I think I know why. I think when you said that, I think I know why. Say this is an experience you had. Because my bedroom was green as a kid. Not soviet green. And I felt safest there. Right. So it's because that could be it.

Because if it was painted like ocean blue, I would you did not author. I'm going to have this color wall. Right. I get what you're saying. Not going to say this. I just completely made that up. Yeah, I didn't have a Soviet green wall growing up as a kid. But I just that would be an example of that.

Right. Yeah. Okay, good. Fuck you. Wow. I think he won. I think Bobby just won. I think I won again.

Somehow? Somehow I won. Okay. So Free Will by Sam Sam and Sam Harris. Sam Harris, whatever his name is. Sam I am. How long is it? Is it short?

It's very short. It's actually aggravatingly short. Like an hour? I thought my phone broke. It ended so fast. I was like, it just stopped. And I was like, oh. I listened to all my books through audio.

Is that not reading then? It's not. You didn't read it now. You heard it. I know. I'm just saying though it is word for word the book. Yeah. So what's the difference?

You heard a book. I know, but I know. But like, because when people go, have you read a book? Yeah. Yeah, I read Power of Now. That's my favorite book. I love that book. I love that book.

And I believe it 100%. But I can't do it. I can't do it either. I don't apply it. I don't apply it. It drives me crazy trying. Yeah. Because every time I drift off into a memory,

you're not supposed to, right? You're supposed to be. You gently bring yourself back. Right. And to things, the apple that you're holding, the grain of rice in your mouth, everything has to be present. And it almost threw me into an anxiety attack every day

because I kept trying to practice it too hard. Yeah. This stuff, I mean, it can really throw you into a life crisis. I know. Because really, it's all about getting rid of your ego, which is your brain is fighting to keep it. But your brain has to decide to let it go. It's the old arsonist is the chief of police.

Yeah. Trying to find the arsonist. Is there a way to make your ego an ally in some portions of your life? For instance, like for Bobby, let's say, for instance, he's an ambitious guy. And a part of his ego just keeps him driven and keeps him wanting more.

Yeah, yeah. But is there a way to make it so that ego is not always the total enemy? Well, I think the only thing you can really try to do is watch it and watch. OK, I tend to have these thoughts. But the thing is, is this is that the greater question is, why in my adult life do I need to listen to self-help books?

Like I've done the four agreements. I've done every Deepak Chopra. I've done every. Deepak Chopra is not the way to go. Yeah, skip him. Skip Deepak. I know, fine. But I have.

I have. The quantum. He doesn't know anything about quantum physics. But he's like, the quantum leap. Yeah, yeah. He likes. Well, you know how I've told this before. Do you know why I stopped following that guy?

Why? Because, well, I told you the whole reason why I even got into Deepak Chopra. Did I ever tell you about that? I don't remember. So this is before, right? A couple of months before I got mad TV, obviously, I was a doorman at the store, had no money,

and had no future. That's how you feel as an open-micro. You know how when you're a young comic, you look around, you see somebody like making it? Yeah. Because you're around it. And as a young comic, you go, how does, how do you get there? It's, it seems impossible.

Right? You're just every day, can I see your ID? Can I say, hey, can you not heckle during the show? You're a doorman at a club. And then you see other guys come in their fancy cars, and they have a hot chick. And they go, yeah, we make it. I make $80,000 a week on this Sonso show.

And you go, how do I even meet those people that give me? It's a mystery. It's not like being a lawyer. Right. You have these steps. You pass the bar, and then you go, you just show up. So when I used to get stressed out, I used to get boils. That's hot.

Yeah, I used to get them in my armpit, and I'm on the top of my head. Nice. All right, and my mom gets them. We talked about it with my mom. She get these gigantic boils. And I know how to lance them organically. Braggar.

I'm being cocky. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I was getting so desperate and so depressed that a boil appeared on my cheek. Right? And that's when I know things aren't going well, when there are boils on my cheek.

So. Boil alarm. Boil alarm. So I was at the comedy store, and I was walking up the steps. You know Jason Glearn? No. He's a comic. He's a teacher, though.

And he always gets late spots, like midnight, one in the morning. But he does get spots. And Glearn's like, hey, Lee. I go, yeah. And he's just out of nowhere. He goes, Chopra. I go, what?

Deepak Chopra, you know him? I go, no. Is he a comic? He's like, no. He's in the Rolling Stone magazine, and there's an article about him. You should read it. I guess he just kind of knew that I was just

like going through something. So I remember after my shift, I went to 7-Eleven, and I found it. Bought it. I read about him. And I'm like, yeah, I can't even afford his books. I don't have no money, right? The next weekend, on a Friday, I do La Jolla.

But I'm not headlining. I'm like MCing or featuring or something. And I'm on stage because I'm from there. I'm on stage, and there's this girl in the front row. Her name is Katie. And I used to wait tables in La Jolla, because I used to live there. Brockton Villa, and she was somebody I worked with in my

early 20s. And I go, Katie! Is it, oh my god? Is she like, from the audience, she goes, oh my god, you do stand up? Whatever. Yeah, I did my set. And afterwards, obviously, we get together in the lobby.

And I go, what do you do now? And she goes, I work for Deepak Chopra. So in my head, I'm like, there's something. There's a universe. There's a connection. The what? Right. So I'm not done with the story, babe.

Sorry, sorry. Let me just say this. I thought of somebody for an impression to go ahead. Let me just do it, and then you can do the thing. You want to do it first? No, no, no, no. All right. So the next day, around from the comedy

store in La Jolla, you've been there, right? There used to be the Deepak Chopra. Chopra, the Chopra. Deepak Chopra's. Come on down to Deepak's sofa. Going fast. Going fast. Once in a while.

Going fast. Yeah, he had this center of self-healing, right? He had his offices there. And he had a meditation room and all the stuff there. And she goes, just meet me there during the day. So I went there, he wasn't there, but she had a bunch of books with her. She goes, just read these.

And that's how I got. So I was into it. And I've said this on this podcast. I read Seven Spiritual Laws of Success. And I applied them in my life, and then I got mad TV. But I really did, like two or three months later. And it might not be connected, but I believe it is. Well, he does a lot of Buddhist stuff, right?

Right. So I mean, there's legit stuff in what he's teaching. Right. But then what happened was, a couple of years later, my buddy goes, yeah, he goes to my restaurant all the time. And he doesn't tip. I was like, oh, I burned all the books. Oh, wow.

Doesn't tip. That one thing that one thing says so much to me that I don't believe him now. Well, he gets lambasted by the science community. Yes, he does. Oh, he does. Sam Harris actually debated him and made him look very foolish. No, really?

Yeah. It's online? Yes. Oh, Sam Harris. So do a deep dive tonight. Tell her that. Have you seen the documentary Wild, Wild Country? Yes.

OK, oh, show. You should do oh, show. Oh, show. What's his name? Bakwan. Bakwan. Bakwan. You know, he doesn't blink at all.

Yeah. And he just, you know, he calls Sheila. Yeah, and also Joe Rogan just saw the documentary. He loves it. Yeah, yeah. I love it. I think that'd be great. It'd be weird, too.

A lot of people still follow. To do with the eyes. Like how to do the hair. I don't think that's kind of weird. Yeah. He had crazy. What do we have time? We're over an hour.

Oh, 20. No. Almost, already almost an hour. You're going to wrap it up because the diarrhea is about to fly out. OK, but that was. Wait, what? I've been holding it for like 20 minutes.

That was, you only do 50. 50 minutes. And that was amazing. Oh, great, great. I honestly, my gut instinct was right about it. Yeah. And when you popped in my head, I knew I was right. Yeah, I've only known you to be right.

Don't do it, please don't do it. Don't do what? Nothing. Hm? At the end, we do this thing called unhelpful advice. Oh, OK. So people email us, we answer it, and then we'll wrap it up.

Oh, great. I love to give advice. And I've no training. It can be unhelpful as well. It will be, I can't guarantee. Go ahead. Unhelpful advice with Bobby Kalaila and Kyle. Wow, that's good.

Dear Bobby and Kalaila, I love your show so much. Since I discovered the Tiger Belly podcast, I've started binge watching from the first episode. I love how real and open you guys are about your lives. This year has been a difficult year for me dealing with depression. A few days ago, I lost my big sister to suicide. I'm at a loss, feeling shattered.

Has either of you dealt with a loss like this? What advice do you have to help me and my family get through this? With love, Doris from Salt Lake City. Hm, that is a tough one. I feel very unqualified too. Yeah, I feel unqualified. And I'm also angry at you for choosing that one.

Oh, sorry. I mean, how many do we have? They're all the same ones. But she seems like somebody who actually needs. A man that can't get girls. Yeah. Well, I lost my father like 18 years ago, 19 years ago. What was that like?

It's like a black cloud in my life that whole time. It's just awful. Was it sudden? How do we get through it? No, you get a brain tumor, it's like a year and a half like down a spiral. And it was awful. How do we, I mean, what advice could I give?

Well, how did you get out of the black cloud? Well, time. Yeah, just time. I mean, really feel your feelings. I kind of pushed everything down because my family was falling apart and that's a bad move. So don't do that. Yeah.

How many kids are there in the Dunnegan family? Three Dunnegan children. From the same mother and father? Yes. And are you the oldest? Youngest. You're the youngest. Somehow I felt responsibility to not to cry and be in those

a bad move. And then years later, I had a breakup and I really didn't care about the breakup, but it triggered loss. And I was able to go, oh, I got to cry and be really upset. And I let myself get like real. And it was very cathartic. It was like 12 years later or something like that.

Oh, my God. I mean, that's what I said. During the funeral, did you cry? I'm sorry. Oh, I definitely cried. But I was I was keeping in way too much. It was like buried this and that was not a good move. So do the opposite.

Yeah. Wow, I can't. I mean. I lost my step brother to suicide when he was 18. And I had a lot of guilt because when I was younger and I was just a teenager full of angst. And when I attempted suicide and when I was in the hospital for a whole month,

it was actually him who saved my life. And it was him who called his dad to drive over to my house and say, hey, she sounded off on the phone. Can we just go check on her because he didn't have a car? And when they got to the house, I had Odeid. And so it was his dad who took me to the hospital. Two years after that, he took his own life. Wow.

And I had so much guilt because I thought that maybe I had planted that seed, that that was something that he could do. Or I know that he was 18. He had his own thoughts. He was starting to fall into the pits of depression. But I totally escaped that moment. I didn't even go to his funeral because I was so devastated.

And I carried a lot of that guilt because he was a really close friend of mine and he was my step brother. That it took about five years for me to deal with it. But as you were saying, Kyle, you got to feel your feelings then. And you really can't push things down like that because it creeps up. It creeps up.

It'll find its way out. It'll be exactly like you. It'll come out in a bad way. Talk to people. Find a support group. All those things are necessary. And I thought that maybe I could white knuckle my way out of that pain and it was impossible.

Yeah. You know, I've never had a loss like that. The only, I think the only one that I would be, the three that I would be, four that I would be closest to to have that kind of feeling is Kalilah or my brother or my parents. And my dad is on his knees and close. I've been like, you know, preparing myself for it.

My brother's going there tomorrow to Arizona to see him. But I don't really, I'm not qualified to even say anything. It did give me another philosophical idea, though, of there might be, there might be just, let me just get it out. All right. Is we're not really animals. I just realized that we have these complex relationships

and love and connections that I don't think that any other animals really feel, do you think? I don't know that. Yeah. I don't know that for a fact, but it is very complex and deep seated. It is traumatic to just to even hear that. Dolphins commit suicide.

Yeah. Didn't Flipper commit suicide? How do they commit suicide? Really? Yeah. Jump on the beach? Because they have to surface once in a while, and I think they just stay down.

They just stay down. I think that Flipper did, right? Stay down. Yeah. Although that whole thing about dolphins being smart, I don't buy it. Really? Hey, there's blood in that Japanese Bay.

Let's all go and see if there's a party. Yeah. If I see a dolphin fly out of the ocean in an airplane, now, that's smart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I'm not good at committing suicide. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, what's her name? Doris. Doris, I'm so sorry. This might not be the right podcast to get counsel from, because we're literally almost borderline retarded.

Yeah, we are. That we are. We don't do anything serious on the show. We talk about farms. I think you guys did great, though, with that. No being real? Yeah, no seriously. Thank you.

But I'm sorry. I think that was helpful for her a little bit. Yeah. I think the advice would be is just live moment to moment, release your feelings. Don't bottle it up. And I think time will heal it. The power of now is actually a good book, if you ever read it.

Yeah, for that, yeah. Wow, what a fucking great ending to a fuck yeah. This is the funniest podcast I've ever seen. You know, how depressing is that? Honestly, Kyle, my honest feeling here about the whole situation with you being here and whatnot is we'd like to have you again. I'd love to come back.

When you do your own podcast, I would love to have you back on to promote it. That'd be great. I'd love for you to be on my podcast. No. I love you. I only do the big five. I love that you just said that.

Yeah, yeah, of course. I'll go to the ends of Earth to do it. I've done all of them. I even do shitty ones. Oh, great. No, like open mic, like open micers will go. I just did one. Not that he's shitty, but I did one in San Antonio

where one of the radio DJs once he came to my hotel room. And I did it. And he was sweating profusely. Nervous? Yeah, because he's a huge Tiger Valley fan. So he didn't want to, he even said it on the thing. He's like, I didn't think he would ever do it. But my point is, I know.

That's so sweet. We have power. But my point is, I would fuck up people's lives. That's what I think. And look right in the eyes, I go, I'm a fucking Darth Maul. And I'm getting into your head. I love it. But my point is, is that you are family here forever.

Thank you. Yeah, and I really, really hope that you do a podcast. Thank you. I am. I'm going to do it. I enjoyed doing the last one. Who's your agent? UTA.

There's like, there's Andrew Kinnick. I'm going to say his last name wrong. You know Greg Kavick at all? He's there. He's my agent. Yeah. I mean, he hasn't sent me out in quite some time. Well, I think Greg used to be mine.

Yeah. Greg Kavick. Yeah? Yeah, I love him. Yeah. He's skinny jeans. You know what I mean? Thin guy.

Yeah, I love him. You know him? Yeah, yeah. You see him, right? Not much. Call him. Yeah. Put me out.

Put me out there. Yeah, yeah. You've got to be out there. You should be reading. Yeah, I'm not going out. I want you to. OK. I'd like you to be my manager.

I honestly, I think I could be somebody's. And the thing is also, and if I was a manager, I would sign you. And also, but I, from learning from Kalyla, I've had a traumatic, I've talked about it too much on this podcast, auditions. I mean, the thing with USNL, I've had ones that are a lot really devastating,

where I had borderline suicidal thoughts. It leaves a mark. It could be very. I have PTSD from auditions. Yeah, I went through years of stammering. Yeah. The first line, I would stammer. I got into my head, and I just would, every time I'd stammer.

Do you and I are so similar in that? In fact, when you were telling me the SNL one, every single thing you were saying, can't talk to people, right, at a 10, you feel like every moment is the most painful moment. Yeah. I mean, without Instagram, I would be out of show business right now.

Because I can't audition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But can I say this? Because of her, there were a couple, some of them I didn't even get, where I walked out and I went, Kalyla, I'm not going to get this because I'm not the right type. But if I was the right type, I would have killed everyone

in the fucking, I've had disastrous ones. But you have to try. And that, you do learn that. Like, it is a type. If you've ever been on the other side, we audition people. I have. Right when they're walking out, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right away, you know. And then, and you feel bad when they're good. Yeah. I did, you know, went for love when we're auditioning for, because I was playing pretty much myself. So Judd wanted her as my girlfriend in it. But we wanted to cast her. Yeah.

So they were like looking for someone that's half Filipino. Yeah. And you got her and she was amazing. Yeah, we did get her, but was she the, she was great. But there was this one black girl who was like 6'9", who walked in. I'm 6'9".

As soon as I walked out, I went, no, no, no, no. You know what I mean? They studied, they printed out, they went to a coach. If I could give her award, she nailed it. Yeah. And then when she walked out, Allison goes, that's a shame. Ah, yeah. And I go, I know.

So it's not personal. No. But in our own twisted fucked up heads, it's life or death. Yeah. By the way, my mother today said, can't you call Judd Appletow, and ask him to put you in a movie? I know. Like 20 years I've been doing this, I was like, no.

I would think that he would though. I think he would. Yeah. If they're looking for like a really hot guy, yeah, like ripped to shit, Chris Hemsworth type, Hemsworth type, I'll get a call. And I'm, you know, I'm waiting for it. Keep trying, man.

How about give Kyle Dunn again a round of applause? Great. I love you. And anything when you want to plug? Shows. I'll be at the same. Oh yeah, Antonia. Sleepers.

Sleepers. Not this weekend, though. Sleepers. No, the 20th of July through the 24th. Because this doesn't come out till next week. Yeah, OK. So sleepers, listen. Sleepers and nephers.

Because San Antonio, all you kids came out. I had a lot of Tiger Bell people come out. And please go see Kyle Dunn again at LOL. And I'll be at Largo on September 5th. Don't give a fuck about that. Oh, I need that one. All right, come on guys. Give him another round of applause.

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