TigerBelly - Epsiode 196: Noah Mac & The Banker

Episode Date: May 29, 2019

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You're listening ad-free on Wondery Plus. Do you do countdown? Five. I'm not ready yet though. Give me a second. Your sister was going to cover it, she was afraid she was going to get roasted. She gets nervous around cameras. Oh really?

Yeah. Where does she live? She lives kind of close to me. Is she older or younger? Way older. She's like 30. I don't even know if she's cool with me. Yeah, she's a 30.

I would have liked her some 30-something year old energy here. I'm old. Yeah. I'll do the countdown. Alright, let's go. Five. Four. What is that hat?

Chicago Bulls. Bulls? My god, Bobby. I like it, I mean. That's the Portland Trail. The Portland Trail. No, hey, don't be spillish. No, because it's got a Pippin connection though.

Michael Jordan played there, right? Yeah. Alright, who else? Who else? Pippin. Okay, we need to see this. Yeah, yeah. Just a fucking, do the countdown.

We're not even doing it yet. Five. Four. Three. Two. One. Is that a jacket? Yeah.

It's thin though, right? It's like a windbreaker. That thing is dope. It's like a bomber jacket. It's like a valet guy jacket. It's a bomber jacket, but it's like. Okay, Cleo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right? It's definitely, no, it's like, if you wear that jacket, it's like, yeah, I suck dick too. Or something like that, right? Here are your keys. Do the countdown. Five. Four. Three.

Two. One. Welcome. Do it again. Five. Four. Welcome to another time. Right.

We're here. And I took a nav. I'm a little delirious, but, um, and you know, here's the thing. A lot of times I don't know, you know, because I knew this guy was going to be on the podcast this week, but we thought it was going to be Mo Collins. Yeah. Right. And tomorrow was going to be this guy.

Right. And what was I saying in the room? I was like, this is my Mo Collins outfit. Yeah. This is my Noah Mack outfit. Yeah. And we were like, um, so I know Mo, so I was kind of like, you know, I know Mo. It'll be fine.

But then I woke up from a nap and then I heard Noah Mack's hair. And I go, what is, why was he, what's he doing here? Right. And then, um, no, I'm in here, but, um, We flipped the days. We thought you were coming tomorrow. It's fine. Here's the thing.

Noah, don't say anything. Noah, don't say anything. No, no, no, here's the thing. Okay. Everybody, everybody, um, everybody knows I'm obsessed with a couple of things. And I'm obsessed with, um, the voice, I'm obsessed with American Idol. I'm obsessed with those types of shows. Okay.

But that's not it. You know, there's a couple of people I'll watch and I'll go, oh, that person. Has this ability has ability or there's something special about that person. But then every once in a while, the Lord, every once in a while, the Lord will, you know, put somebody on the show. It'll make our spiritual tales whimpering the night. Oh, I just wrote that. I like that.

I just wrote that. Write that down. Spiritual tales whimpering the night. Wow. And, um, I want to explain to you who this guest is, um, we're watching the voice a couple of, a couple of years ago. Was it a year ago? Two seasons ago.

Two seasons ago. And this is embarrassing. Am I being too much? You're fine. I feel like I'm doing too much. No, no, no. It's good for the ego. Good, good.

And we saw this high school kid at the time you were in high school. Are you still in high school? No. All right. You were in high school then, right? I was. Yeah. Yeah.

It's crazy. This kid from high school, he goes up there, you know, auditions and I could hear titty milk coming out of her tits. She's so excited. My tits? Yeah. Or your tits. I was lactating.

When he was, when he was in high school, you can't say that my tits were lactating. I don't care. I don't care. And that's why I want to call Dr. Phil or the police or something. You think my pedophilia came out? Because in the way he was singing. Brice, when he was singing, you heard this coming right out of her tits, man. And I had a little come out, but that wasn't gay.

I had a little comfort out. That just happens. It just happens. I get premature ejaculation. And that's a medical thing. And that's not gay. And that's not pedophilia. Because he's an adult.

Yeah. He's an adult now. I am now. Yeah. Yeah. I want everyone to give a round of applause for Noah Mack everybody. Thank you for having me. Now, I never thought that you would do this podcast.

So, but then we got contacted by you, right? We only talked about him on 80. I know. He's like the chupacabra. We don't know if he really exists. Bobby does. He falls in love with certain contestants and he obsesses about them and he follows them on Instagram and he tweets at them, but not a single one ever tweets them back.

But you really? Yeah. Oh, well, you did. I think Chloe Kohansky mentioned. So, she did a like. She did a like or something, right? And that's it. Yeah, but you're the only one ever.

Like, I still follow. I still watch The Voice. I still watch American Idol and I'll tweet at people. I remember when there was a 15-year-old girl, whatever it was, and he was like, Moriah. And you were like, dear Moriah. And then the next day, you were like, three weeks later, he was like, can you believe she hasn't even thrown me a like? Yeah.

She hasn't responded. That's crazy. Do you know Moriah? No. Moriah wasn't on his season. Oh. Oh, no. She was like a rock star.

No, she was on my season. She was on your season. Yeah, she's young, right? Yeah. So, that season that you were, though, what a season. Yeah, that's crazy. Great people. Yeah.

We should probably mention that it's The Voice. The Voice. Yeah. You, right? You were in it. Yeah. That little girl from Indiana. Was that heard from there, too?

Yeah. Addison? Addison. Yeah. Eagan. Eagan. Yeah. You had Chloe on it.

Yeah. What else was your year? Your year was, it was a good one. Yeah. Brooke Simpson. Brooke Simpson. Oh, fuck. Crazy.

She's heavyweight. You see that? Really good. What? She's incredible. She just released a single? She did. Yeah.

Is it killing? It's pretty sick. Like, I'm not going to lie. Like, it's pop as hell. Yeah. It's great. Like, it's great for pop music. Yeah.

So why? Because your specific year, you had like, 10 guys on there, people that were like, fucking amazing. Oh, yeah. And you rose to that surface, which means, right? That not only were you on a difficult show, but you shine brightly amongst, you know what I mean, that season. Yeah.

But there was something about you that also set you apart. I feel like you, that there was definitely something like I feel like everyone was a great singer but you sort of produced and did your own thing and you know, it was different. There was a curation there. Like you kind of curated your own performances compared to the other contestants that year.

Like your dad built you a little studio ride or whatever. Are we sounding really obsessive right now? No, no, no, I don't give a fuck. I love it. I don't give a fuck. I'm cool with it, I'm cool with it. I'm gonna go crazy, you know what I mean? So then you, so what place did you take on that season?

I think it was like fifth place. Yeah, I'm still shocked. That you got eliminated or you went that far? No, that I went that far. I didn't want to. Yeah. And it was just crazy. I wanted to last one round and get the hell out of there.

Really? Yeah, I didn't start making music. I actually, I don't even watch the show, honestly. And I'm sorry. It's fine. I don't watch the show. It's fine. It's a fucking amazing to me.

I don't, I don't usually watch reality TV, especially don't anymore after that experience. But yeah, yeah, it feels weird. But yeah, I just, I wanted to get the hell out of there and make music. Like that's what I was doing before. And I just wanted to get back to it. The, that whole experience was kind of like,

it was a move that I wanted to make because I needed fans. I needed people watching me. At the time, I had no idea who I was. I had no idea what I wanted to do. So it provided a direction and it provided fans. And I, I did it and people somehow liked it, even though I had no idea what the hell was going on.

Like, I had no idea what kind of, if I was pop, if I was soul, if I was rock, I had no idea. I just took whatever song they gave me and- But you know what you are. I'm starting to now. Yeah. Starting to. Even when you watched, when I watched you, there was a sense of why we liked you in the first places

because if you were just some, just some regular joker, you know, some guy that was like, you know, has just a super clinical, you know, voice that was, I'd be like, oh yeah, he's okay. There was something different though about you, which, you know, was special. It's the tone of your voice, right? How you deep you can go.

Like that river song that he did, remember? Oh, back there. Yeah. And then he, remember, he, he was on the- Solaris. Remember, he was in, right? You go, I don't know how it goes, but whatever, right? But then like, he was playing the piano and then all of a sudden like,

he took the mic off the thing, right? Still back up. Remember, right? Oh yeah, you know, whatever the river, how does the river go? I'm surprised. Oh yeah, river, right? And the guy you competed against, I remember,

was the dude that was same type as you. And he seems like a really nice guy. He was a wrestler, right? Something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Cause he was nervous and you went second. Yeah.

So this is what happened. This is what happened. I'm gonna tell you what happened. All right. I'm gonna tell you what happened. You know, season 13. So the guy was up there, right? The other guy was up there, right?

And he was whatever, I don't even remember what he was singing, right? But you could tell he was a little nervous. Yeah. Okay. And I saw you, you know, in the corner, how they have, it's the knockout, right? Was it the knockouts?

I think so. Was it battles or knockouts? Was it battles? No, I think it was, he doesn't know. I don't know. I think it was knockouts. It was knockouts. I don't know.

And so the guy's singing and then Noah's in the, you know, when the other guy, the other contestant is on stage in the corner. Yeah, it's gotta be knockouts. Cause he was sitting there like, you know, like this, you know what I mean? You know how you sway? You know, they cut to you, right?

And then, you know, you're going, oh, this guy's my friend. He's doing good. Whatever, right? You know how they do that? But they get, they're scared. They're nervous. They're nervous.

They're so nervous because like, oh my God, I'm going to bomb. You know what I mean? I can't imagine, right? The pressure. And then, so he goes, and as soon as you opened your mouth, we were just like, yeah, just go.

Other guy. Yeah. He seems like a nice guy. He was. He was really nice. That's the, that's the episode that you really rose, I thought. Because weren't you with somebody,

you were with Blake Shelton? And then he moved over to J-Hud, right? He got rid of you, right? Oh, she stole you. Yeah, yeah. And then she stole me. Yeah. Yeah, and then she stole you, Jennifer Hudson.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. When he let you go, how did you feel? I, well, honestly, again, like I said, I wanted to last one round, right? So. I want to rewind to the beginning.

Like how, like, how did you even get into the auditions? Like, do they pick them? Do they recruit you? They have like auditions that they hold in like, you know, thousands and thousands of people come and then they narrow it down and they narrow it down. And there's like 10 rounds that you have to go through before you get there.

For me, they did just contact me like out of nowhere. I had a YouTube channel, I did like five covers. I had like maybe a hundred subscribers. And for some reason they found me, I was camping with my parents. They called me up and asked if I wanted to do it. First thing I said, I didn't say this to them, but I said straight up to my parents,

I was like, no, I'm not doing it. Show. Enjoy the rest of the show. I had also just been contacted by the show on like ABC or something called Boy Band. And so they had me, they were like, You love that idea. They were like, we'll fly you out to LA,

you stay in a hotel, we'll feed you all that stuff. That's what Boy Band said? You hang out with all these guys. You don't have to sign a contract. You're just here just to hang out, see how you feel. We know that you're kind of hesitant on it. So I was like, fine, I'll come down. And then as soon, I met everybody.

It was great. The contracts came out. They said, you know, you really want to do this. You do. And so I was like, no, I'm out. I'm sorry. And then after that, the voice contacted me. And at that point, I was feeling like, wow,

there's people like me. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so when they called, I was like, no, better things are coming. And I just, you said no to the voice TV. You said no to the voice first, too. I did.

I'd like right off the bat. I was like, it's the same thing. Is your T-milk happenings right now? Yeah, I have a little come up. Anyway, not gay and not sexual. Just biology. Yes, biology. Yeah, it's called medicine.

It's called medicine. Biology. Now, listen to me. You said no to Boy Band and the voice. I did. And what did your parents say? Oh, they said, you're doing it. I don't know.

You said no to the first one. You're doing this one. You're doing the voice. Yeah, yeah. Your parents said that. Yeah, and it was exponentially better seeming than the Boy Band show, obviously. Yeah.

And little by little, like I was persuaded in many ways by my parents, by the people around me. Yeah. Well, you're going to be on TV, man. Like, you don't even know. You have 100 subscribers on YouTube. Yeah. You're going to have way more than that after.

And it was all true. So doing it ended up being a great move. I met so many amazing people. Yeah. There's so many aspects of it that was just that I can never bash on. Like, there are so many things about it that I absolutely love.

Yeah. Yeah. You're learning so many different things. And the number one thing that you learn is something that I stress to everybody is. And the reason why I watch it in the first place is I like when people can conquer a bunch of pressure. When they can walk through the fear, right,

and be that nervous. And the hit it right on television in that moment is something that most humans can't do. But when they can do it, I mean, all. Because I'm not going to brag about me. But I've done the Tonight Show, whatever, right? And I remember being back there going so scared and praying to whatever.

I don't even really believe in a biblical God. And then you do it. You do the best you can. And people go, oh, my, that was great, right? And you go, oh, my god, so when I watch young guys like this do it, I get inspired, bro. So basically, Bobby wants to be Carson Daly. That's what he's dreamed of.

That would be sick. That would be awesome, man. Dude, I'd do it again if you were Carson Daly. I'm being real. I mean, I've always wanted to say other family members. Congratulations. Is that what you want to say? Yeah, you can do that.

I want to know what first interview with Noah Mack. You know that his parents were the ones that pushed him to be on the show. This is the first time you're meeting. Does he give, does he do interviews? In the back. Yeah, in the back, they're talking. Oh, you do.

And I suck at them. I suck at them so bad. No, no, no. Here's your redemption right now. You see the edited version, right? That's why I was so nervous for this, because I suck at interviews. And the thing that was pulling me through was like,

really, there's stuff that they edited out probably. Oh, yeah. Like, I take hours to do a 30-second interview. It's awful. I can really imagine. What do you like about the voice? I just want to get out the first round. Yeah, I want to read.

Out of there. There wasn't a lot that I felt good about. So your parents, OK, so your parents go, you're doing it, right? You're Carson Daly, babe. Come on. No, no, no, let's go to the audition now. So you, yeah, you're.

I don't believe you now. Because every day you're like, babe, I need this job. I need this job. I need this job. I'm asking you to showcase your skills. Yeah, there you go. It's an audition. I've got this.

You've got this. All right, so Holly, you've been singing, no? It's your Carson boy. I like him singing. I like him singing. Oh, are you actually? Oh, God, you are bad at this. Yeah, no, this one.

I like him doing it. As soon as I'm in an interview setting, it's over. Where are you from? Where are you from? Oh, man, I'm from Bay Area. Yeah. Anyway, good luck. Thank you, man.

That's all. That's to be the interview. Yeah. Yeah, and it's pretty good. Hey, I did better than I did on the voice with you asking me questions just then. Yeah, so. Now, when you're up there auditioning, is there a rehearsal?

Yeah. All right, so you have a rehearsal. And then when you're out there, one through 10, what is your nerves? I think for the rehearsals and stuff, it was like none. I was so confident in the fact that I get in. I get a lot of publicity. I don't get in.

I get to go home. So I was like, oh, wow. I was cool for a lot of reasons. But as soon as it was the actual audition, that hit hard. And I wasn't expecting it. Wow. And they mean the nerves. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people will talk about that first audition and talk about how, oh, your fast vibrato, it's so beautiful or whatever. And I'm like, I'm physically shaking so hard. That's not vibrato, man. Oh, wow. It's fear.

It's actual shaking. You're fast vibrato. Yeah, they're like, he has such a quick vibrato. It reminds me of. Yeah. No, that's my heart coming out of my mouth. Yeah, no, really. Yeah, yeah, that's not vibrato.

Yeah. So now in your head, how fast did anyone turn for you? I honestly don't remember. Do you just try to like block out this entire experience? This is like revisiting some stuff right now. Yeah, picking apart an old wound. Yeah, it feels like therapy. Yeah, yeah.

But no, it's cool. You know what I like? You know what also like? You know what I hate when someone's auditioning and you can tell that they did the best part of the song where they know that they that's where they shine and still no one's turned. Yeah.

Right. So in their head, they're still singing. In their head, they know there's nothing further in the song that I can do to make them turn unfucked. When I see that in their face, it feels so good to watch. And we actually fast forward through it because you can't handle it. Yeah, I can't handle it.

The disappointment. That's why when someone like you does it and they kill it, you know what I mean? We go, oh, shit. Right. And here's another, it just came up with another thing that you did on the show. And I'm sorry, this is embarrassing.

What's that Phil Collins song? Something in the air, something in the air, something like that. Right. Yeah. This fucking white dude right here, bro. This fucking guy right here, dude. This young white, good looking, like talented kid, right? Young white.

Young white with his bulgy eyes, bro. This dude right here, dude. That song, did you squirt shit on your tits or what? Why do you keep putting on it? Did you squirt shit on your tits? You're projecting a lot of quits. You should watch it on YouTube. Everyone watch it.

You know, he does that song for Phil Collins. You slowed it down very deep up front. Yeah. Miley Cyrusco sits some fucking sexual thing. Yeah, a couple times. Yeah, I know. If she was in with Hemsworth. If she wasn't with Thor's brother.

Thor's brother, right? That would, she would, because she was acting a little crazy on that show when she performed. Yeah, she was acting like every, the way every girl felt probably. She would just happen to have the mic, including you and your lactation. So you, does that bother you that, you know, you're, you, when people girls see you, people scream because you're cute or whatever does that bother you?

Oh, that's sick. I know. It feels sick. That's awesome. Yeah, you don't respect my artistry for a little bit. I'll like, honestly, for a little bit, I was, I was very much like that, where I was like, Oh, okay, this is what it is. I saw the fan accounts posting pictures of me with little flower crowns and stuff

like that. And at first I was like, Oh, this is not who I want to be. Yeah, this is not good. Yeah. People do not understand me as a person. Now I just think it's awesome. Like I get to, I'm going to be doing my music no matter what. And if people, if people also like the way I look or people also like make fan

accounts of me, that's like the coolest shit ever. Yeah. Like I'm, I'm so down. I saw a couple of girls draw photos. I mean, they painted paintings of you. I love that. Yeah. I love fan art.

It's like the coolest thing ever. But you had a, you're, you're same girlfriend, right? Yeah. For that's a little over three years. What? Yeah, I'm not going to talk too much about her. I'm not going to talk about her at all. But that's all I said.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's all I fucking said was girlfriend. And that's it. Why? What am I? No, no, no, it's all good.

It's all good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we talked about this before this podcast and she was like, you can talk me up as much as you want on that podcast. Yeah. Just keep it there. So. Right, right, right, right, right.

So, so that's where I'm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm just saying though that, you know, that's I think one of the also the reasons why you are who you are is because, um, you know, you know, you knew that you were in this relationship. We didn't know much about her from the show. I think that they showed a photo or something. Did they?

No, they didn't. Anything. I don't probably know. You all, you did a lot of deep searching. Yeah, I did some searching. Social media. Which we tried to keep her away from that as much as possible. Both of us, because she felt really uncomfortable with that situation.

And I would do not blame her. Yeah, oh my God, I would too. Yeah, it was, it was hard. Yeah, but you know, but you know, Noah, right? You were in senior and high school when that happened. Yeah. Did you go back to school after that? I did.

Dude, I'm, I'm sorry. I'm fucking sorry, but I'm sorry. That's a dream come true. Imagine, right? Were you popular before that in high school? A little bit. Yeah, yeah. You were already popular.

Yeah. Honestly, I was. Yeah. He's like a Crystallia this type. Tall. He just, he only became, he just became more popular. Right. Right.

Nice. All right. So you were already popular. So when you came back after you did the show, how did that feel? What, going, walking, walking on campus? Walking on the halls. Yeah. I was, I was scared as hell.

Cause I don't, I think at that point in my life, like I think when I was in like middle school up to like maybe freshman, sophomore year, loved attention. Couldn't get enough of attention. Somewhere around sophomore year, I started hating it. And I, and I went through like this phase where I couldn't even talk to people because I would get in my own head about how I'm coming off and who I really am. Story of my life. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I get that. And it's, so after that point, I kind of hated the fact that I would have to go to school. I'd have to confront all these people that, you know, would shower me with praise or give me all this attention that made me really, really uncomfortable at the time. Wow. But, um, it was kind of crazy cause everybody already knew me. So when I came back, everybody was pretty chill.

It was like the lower classmen that didn't know me that would go wild. If they saw you. Yeah. Yeah. But it's so weird. It's like little chunks of people and it still is now. We're like, I, I'm, I'm at a point now and I love this where I can just go anywhere I want and not really worry about your neighborhood.

I'm coming off. Yeah. Oh yeah. And, uh, I'll, I'll be at the store. I'll be shopping and I just won't even have to worry about people coming up to me. And, and then I'll go into another store and I like, I went into game, game stop on, uh, Christmas or something for, to get something for my family or whatever. And, uh, and then all of a sudden I just hear this scream out of nowhere from the back of

the store. Oh my God. It's Noah Mac and she, it's just some random lady. There's just a crazy, crazy fan. Yeah. Yeah. It comes up to me and she, she, you know, she wants to take pictures. So I'm, I'm, that's, that's where I'm at with it right now.

It's just like, I get surprised, which is, which is cool. I kind of love that because I don't have to feel like I'm identifying as, um, something for somebody else, you know, like, I don't have to worry about people constantly coming up to me or being a role model for every single person that I'm, that I encounter. So it's, it's kind of cool. I just get surprised every now and then by some praise and it's, you know, I think in little doses, it's fine. Yeah.

You know, it feels, you know, there was a reaction. Koreatown last night? What do you mean Koreatown? What was the story called? I mean, he went full blown Korean Elvis outside of Sunungban, our favorite restaurant. What are you talking about? So first, a guy asks for his photo and then a second person. And then usually at that point, you're like, okay, I'm going to chill in this corner while

I'm waiting to get seated in the restaurant and just retreat. Right? Yeah. No, instead he does, he doubles down. He starts showcasing, he starts doing a dance in the corner. And then more people are like, whoa, that's Bobby Lee. And now it's like, and then he starts to full on peacock. Then he starts like poking at people like, yeah, and then now it's like 60 people who

want to take a picture with him and he is just in heaven. I don't know. Every, every now and then that's cool. Thank you. No, I think, I think that's great. Thank you Noah. Like you, you have to, you have to, you have to deal with that so much, right? That, that you have to hide a lot of times.

And then sometimes it's just cool to. I never hide. You never hide. Oh, okay. Well, I've never hid. In fact, he will take a couple laps around a Pomona mall. Oh, I see. Just to, but I'll tell you why.

And, and, and, and I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you guys why. Cause now I'm on the defense and I'm protecting myself. But, you know, you know, I just want to say that you are, you have a lot of talent, but you're also, you know, a cute kid. Let's be honest, right? I was, when I growing up, I was never considered a cute kid and I was really shy. I wanted to be noticed and no one would notice me.

And, and, and, um, you know, that's why sometimes when people notice me, I showcase and dance and I, and I, and I'm silly and I, and I run around like a little baby and, um, that's fine. You were in that. Thank you. I think that's it. You know what? Thank you for saying that.

And I really appreciate it. So then, um, who you, who are you friends with on that season of The Voice? Um, I was friends with a lot of people. My, my whole entire mindset going into it was kind of like jam out with as many people as I can. There were people that played piano, some of them played guitar, some of them were country, you know, you had, you have everybody, you, you, you know, um, but it was just like, wow, I get to hang out with all these different types of musicians. How many can we fit into the hotel room and just like jam out?

So I'd, I'd bring my laptop up there. I'd program some like, I have chills, some beats or, you know, whatever. Yeah. And I, and I'd start off some, some light production and then we'd like have a, you know, guitarists like come in and we do different songs. We do covers. We, uh, sometimes I'd, I'd write songs with people and we just like jam out that way. It was so fun.

And I, I realized I like, that's so hard to find cause I, you know, if, if I were in college, I feel like it would be a little bit easier, but I'm going full, full blown into music. So, um, I miss it so much. Just being able to have that many musicians at your fingertips and just it's so nice. And how, um, um, when your relationship with your coaches, are they really like checking in every day or is that just when they see a TV? See this is, this is, you have to find an NDA. I did have to sign one.

So that's, I'm worried about that. No, don't worry. No, no, no, but work a way around it. But I want to sell it. I know. Like you don't know how bad all of this is. This is what we assume. You don't have to say anything.

I'll put what I assume. I'll put what I assume. Tell me what you assume. Okay. Just don't react. We assume, we always assume everything is done for the camera. Right? Yeah.

Correct, babe. Yeah. We assume that the only time that the coaches get in contact with you is a time when the cameras are on, that there really is no true interpersonal relationship where they're like, I'm going to foster, I'm really going to help this kid grow into the artist. Well, no, I will say this. Yeah. I will say this.

There are times when that does happen. Okay. There are, there are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. Okay. I know that. You don't have to confirm nor deny.

We're just telling you, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's no way to keep the positive right in positive. Yes, yes, yes. Add in the positives. But like, um, you know, I know this is not happening. You wake up and Blake Shelton is texting you going, you ready today, boy? Right? And you're like, no, bro, you know, that, that part of the bridge.

I still don't have my falsetto. All right, right, right. And Blake's going, get it, boy. Yeah. Get some warm lungs and fucking get it or whatever. Inhale all that. That doesn't happen, right? He doesn't text you.

You can't confirm or deny. Oh, you can't confirm or deny. All right. Here's another thing, right? Another thing. Yeah. Another thing is, is that I feel like some coaches are better than others. Like for me, I think that Kelly Clarkson, although she wasn't on your ear,

Kelly Clarkson, I feel like is a good coach. I feel like she would actually call her. I think she calls. I think she calls. Oh, I can say this. Miley Cyrus. I feel like she does. All over it, all over it.

Every single person on her team was like taken care of. She had emails sending back and forth. She really was like, that's why it was Janice Freeman on your season. Yeah, she was, yeah. She was insane. She passed away. She did. Yeah.

Just recently. Why did you bring that up? I know. I got all sad bumps on my body. Okay. What other assumptions have we made? She was Janice Freeman. Okay.

Incredible. Not only incredible. One of our favorites. Desert to win, in my opinion. Don't make me cry right now. 100%. No, she's to fuck up. If you're going based off of talent alone.

Yeah. Desert to win. But there's a whole backside to her just as a person, just hanging out with her, just meeting her. She is so freaking powerful. Like it's an energy. It's not even just like the way she talks. And I'm not saying this just to say it.

Like for real, it's like you can ask anybody that knew her. She was. Well, here's how I know. Powerful. The reason how I know why she was powerful and a nice person is that because Miley, when Janice passed away, she posted Instagram. No, she didn't. She actually was at the service.

She was at the service. And she sang at the service. And she sang at the service. I mean, imagine being a coach. You know, like for instance, last comic standing, right? I was like a judge or a coach. Yeah. And then I met a comedian.

If I met anybody there, I would just be like, uh, and then, you know, two years later, I find out they died and be like, oh, that sucks. You know? Yeah. But for Miley to show up, right? And to get emotional, right? It just makes me love her even more, right? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I feel like she's very in touch with life and herself. And I came into it not liking Miley Cyrus at all. Like I just, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. There's not a lot of celebrities that I like really, really like feel heavy about. And like there's not, there's not a lot of strong feelings that I have

towards celebrities. She's one of them. And I was just like, but by, by the end of it, she was, she was really, really, really cool. Yeah. And she, she had helped Janice out in other ways after, after the show it ended, she like, I think financially or something. I believe that.

But she was so, so close to Janice too. Let me ask you this. Was she sick on the show? She was. I'm not sure about the cancer, but she, she was still struggling with a lot of lupus. And so there were days where she was just broken down and she would still like show up and she, she would come with like a bag of like all these oils.

And even when she was like feeling bad, she was like handing out her oils and stuff, trying to, you know, help other people feel better. She's like, these are all my things. You guys can have some. Oh my God. This makes me feel better in this way, in this way, and this one does this, and this one does this. And she was just incredible.

Because I never touched on her lupus on the show, but remember we, we deduced. We were like, oh, I think that she's probably going through some stuff. Yeah, this is like it. Yeah. She's going through a lot. I would also want to say something about the show is, is that your, you, when you were on it, it was the golden years. I think that I'm done.

I'm being real. We stopped halfway through the season. We stopped watching that show because. And judge the Filipino guys out. They keep adding new rules and making it different, right? Yeah. And then becomes like, in the, now they do a thing where, you know what I mean, all the contestants are outs out, right?

And they're like little groups and then they do challenges like, you know, you know what I mean, someone go, yeah, you know, my guy Cliff will challenge you. You know what I mean? That kind of a thing. That's a new thing. Yeah. And it's, I hate it. Yeah.

And here's another thing. And I'm not kidding you, bro. Your year, and we, we saw a couple of years before and after, but your specific season was the talent was 10 out of, how many contestants are there? Hundreds of 40. There was like 15 of you guys that were at the top. Like the best I've ever seen and now you see one or two guys that are like really incredible and the rest of his rest aren't, you know, but, you know, um, I don't know,

I just, I just want to say, I went on a fucking thing. You know what I mean? He's a fan of the show. Yeah. Please, if you ever have the time to inspect Bobby follows on Instagram, you'll find that like an old perverted crazy man. Am I coming across like that? I'm going to change.

I'm going to change. Yeah. Let's switch. I'm going to change it. I'm going to change it. I'm not doing this. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's just changing the look. Yeah. He's changing the look. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Keep it up. Keep it up. Keep it up. Keep it up. Keep everything up. Keep everything up. Do you hear for the new Bobby?

Fuck. All right. Fuck about this shit. I know. I know all kinds of people too. Yeah. I got shit going on too. I don't go fuck, bro.

Anyway. Anyway, Noah's here back. Congratulations. Thank you, man. You know, after the show, we went back into high school. And what have you been doing now, last couple of years? I've been working on an album. I put out some singles after it just because I thought I had to.

Just to stay relevant. But I didn't really care about them at all. And again, I was still figuring out who I am. I still am. But now I got a full-ass album. It's 14 tracks. And it's the closest thing I can get to right now to being something that I can feel proud of for the first time. Which is sick.

I did it all myself. For some of the singles that I released earlier, I went to studios. And I had an engineer that was manning the booth while I played the instruments or whatever. Or I hired some instrument, people to play instruments. This one, I'm literally back in my backyard shed and I'm just making music there. Every instrument is played by me. All the production is by me mixing. I'm my own engineer.

Partly out of necessity. Partly because I honestly just love it. And it feels that the outcome feels a lot more satisfying is being able to do it myself. And being able to say that I did it myself. But even on the show, you can tell that your arrangements were a little different. So we would go, oh yeah, no one did that. When you would do it, right? Were you allowed to sort of call the shots on that?

Yeah, actually surprisingly, they let me call a lot of shots on the production. They would obviously come in after I'd literally make them on my laptop, send them in. Sometimes I had two hours to create an entire production for the song. And that was insane. Like for ordinary world, I didn't know the song. They said, you're doing this song. I had two hours to first of all, learn it, then create an entire track, then go in for the rehearsal. It was insane.

You can't say, I don't want to do that one? Man, if I could, man. You have no choice? Well, you do have choice. That's what I can say. Especially a lot of it, you do have a lot of choice. I can neither confirm nor deny it. Oh, I see it's this or this.

It's this Duranduran version or this Duranduran. You are right because to even sing somebody else's song, you probably need the rights to it. So they have only a certain and probably option. For sure. And I had offered different songs that I thought were incredible, that I thought would be huge and get what they wanted out of me out of it. There are a couple One Direction ones that they threw at me that I had to deflect many times. And they were just relentless with that.

But I had offered some really, really cool songs and they were like, damn, that would be sick, but we don't have the rights. And that's kind of how that one happened. But that was insane, but every single one of them, I did all the production myself. They would come in later and have the band play it. And in the studio magic that they work, it's completely different than the stuff that I do. They put little textures and put in slide guitars and stuff that I would never put into a song. Yeah. It's the voice.

They would take it and they just add little things to kind of bring it together a little bit more for their audience. And where am I going with this? No, you're just, this is exactly what we want to listen to. All the little, like, you know. I have a touchy question. Do you think that getting on a reality competition like this, do you think it's more of a positive or can it be detrimental? Honestly, it depends. Because I get a lot of people asking me this question, like, I want to be on the voice, like, should I do it?

Honestly, it's about what kind of artists you are. I met artists on there, John Moreau being one, Brooke Simpson being another one. Obviously natural performers, pop icons, you know, just like killer, just wanting to be entertaining. And that's what their heart is. It's just entertaining, putting out something that people will enjoy. And that being what they are. And for people like that, I think it's absolutely great. I think it depends whether you want to be at the top of the industry, obviously doing something like the voice kind of hinders you from going anywhere.

No, no, no. You know what? If anybody, anybody, listen up. Anybody that's a kid that gets asked to do the voice, you fucking do it. I'll tell you why. Because number one, right, we all know it's corporate television. You think that, you know, I've been on a sitcom before. You think I like saying the things I say.

Right? You think it's the funniest thing I've ever fucking done? No. But it's like, oh shit, it's on TV. Do you rarely get the opportunity to be even on the fucking thing? Right? You do it because it teaches you shit like, like I said before, you know what I mean? Being able to perform under pressure.

But also, I'm sorry, but all the people that you're on the show with are super talented people. Oh yeah. Right? And it's like, I would love to have been on a show, which I did. Matt TV was like that where, you know, everyone on there from Key and Peele to all these people, Mike McDonald, they're all so talented and you're asked to be a part of it. And you kind of go, oh shit, maybe I got something. It's good for everything, right, to be included.

So I'm glad you did it because without that fucking show, you wouldn't be here. Yeah. That's very true. I would have not known who you were ever. Yeah. You know? Maybe, I mean, yeah. It also depends.

Like I think it depends like, I really honestly think it varies from person to person. And I think that's the thing is like, people want to say, if you're a musician, make music and sound like Elvis or make music and sound like this pop star. And I really, and it's something that I learned throughout the process was everybody does something different. You don't have to be at the top of the industry to be a fulfilled human being. You don't have to be on the tonight show to feel, you know, you know, no, I was saying, I was just saying like, but some people, some people, that's what that's honestly what they

do. No, no, no, no. Hear me out. Can I just do this for a second? Yeah. Give me your energy. Go ahead. Oh, okay.

No, but I'm saying that it's different types of people and it's all great and it's all just as good as each one. No, honestly. No, no, no, no. I agree with you. I agree with you. I don't. Whether you're a pop star, whether you're a guy playing drums in a jazz club, whether

you're a garbage man, whether you're clapping or whatever. Your energy right now is I'm blocking it like, all right, because what you're saying is this feels better. What you're saying right now is wrong. Okay. But he's actually saying, I know what he's saying. You're a cook. I know what he's saying.

Right. I disagree. You like more. You don't like any mainstream stuff. No, no, no, no, no. Listen to me right now. Okay. The best comic at the comedy store, right, is Rick Ingram.

I'm sorry. You've never heard of Rick Ingram. Have you heard of Rick Ingram? No one knows who Rick Ingram. I do. He's amazing. I know you do. But the best comic we have is Rick Ingram.

Why don't you know him? Because he's never been on TV, ever. He's now starting to. He did, Bill Burr is doing his own Comedy Central like standup series and he got Rick on it, right? And apparently Rick obliterated the room when they were shooting it. But still no one knows who Rick Ingram is right now and he's been doing comedy as long as almost I have over 20 years.

So it must be really fulfilling for him. But no, because he has a daughter and he mopes in the back and he goes, man, you know, I'm trying still, man. I'm like, hopefully I'll make it for my daughter and he's been over 20 years. That's the difference. That's a person that needs to provide. That becomes not about you anymore. When you have kids, that becomes about feeding the energy block.

You change as a person when you have children that you need to start providing. For that reason. Can I say this though? Yeah. The difference between, right? Let's be honest. Now let's be honest. Okay.

All of us in this room. All right. Everyone thinks that they have a talent. If you really think about it, you know, I mean, people think that they have. They do. You know, I've been on sets where they stop, you know, they go cut and extras are like doing dancing and showcasing, right? Peacock.

They have some sort of fucking talent, all right? And what a show like the voice is, is they already weeded out the ones that don't generally, right? They only ask, right? Look at American Idol this year. Like, you know, that guy, what's his name, Jeremiah Floyd, the gay guy, Harman, the guitar guy. No, it's the piano.

So good. That Mexican dude. What's his name? Alejandro. Yeah. They're like, I mean, they're like gifted. You can tell why they're in it, right? When you see him do the fucking Phil Collins doing all the sexy eyes to all the women in

the audience, right? Yeah. Right. And getting up mildly Cyrus. Out of her vagina juice. You know what I mean? Oh no. I can say vagina juice.

You can. You can, yeah. Sorry, my bad. All good. I know you're a little boy. Just block. Use the energy block. Use the energy block.

There you go. Just do that. You don't like it. If you're a singer or a comedian or you're even an actor and someone's like, Hey, we want you to do NCIS Alaska, right? And you're like, you know, you're, you know, you want a Tony or whatever for Broadway and we're going to pay you $250,000 a week to say, um, I found the blood spots. It's in the right.

It's in the igloo. It's in the igloo, right? Very good. You're going to be writing on that show. Yes. I'll fuck a writer. Right. Right.

I want to be a writer. A weird winning actor is going to do fucking NCIS because the money's there and it's on TV and it's going to just help everything except about exposure, right? It is. That's your end game. I mean, it depends on where you want to end up, right? No, I know. I like fighting with them.

I like fighting with no man. It's pretty good. Because he's very good. Cause, cause. Oh man. Express yourself. No, no, no, no. I just lost my train of thought.

Do you know why you did though? You stood up. Do you know why you did? You stood up. Do you know why you did? Why? Why? Because it wasn't valid.

Oh. Your train of thought wasn't valid and was based on some fucking bullshit and now look what I'm doing. I'm sucking you. I'm sucking you while you do. Yeah. Yeah. No.

Unblock it. Go ahead. It's valid. Oh man. So, so. You fucking idiot. You fucking punk. You little punk bitch.

You fucking idiot. Okay. Okay. So I could, I could, I could, I could be a musician today and then I could say fuck this shit. What makes my heart happy is going to college, getting an education, becoming a banker or a lawyer or you know, I could do that as a person and because I'm not taking every opportunity to be a musician. That's very interesting.

So you. After that point. After, after not taking every opportunity to be a musician, I'm not letting myself down. That's not me destroying myself. That's just me following what I want to do if I have the opportunity to do it. If I have the privilege to, to say no, if I have an option, if that makes sense. Yes. Yes.

I'm bad. That, that is just a touch to cerebral for this. No, I have my argument, but you didn't let me do it. This is something, this is the same argument I have with him all the time because he seems to think this fuck right here, that shiny, that a shiny life equals happiness, right? So what I tell him, it's like, look, if that's not what I set out to do, I can be fulfilled in my own way. It might not fulfill that your expectations of me, but I'm fulfilling my expectations.

All right. You know where I learned that the, I, I honestly, the, the place that I learned that was from my girlfriend because Oh, the one that you can't, you don't even want to mention her. I'm talking her up. I'm talking her up. I'm talking her up. I want to hear it.

I'm talking her up. This is, cause honestly, that's, that's what I, I had that mindset where Give me a pen. Cause I have things I want to say, but I'm going to forget. I thought, I thought you work in an office job, you're somehow failing yourself. Right. And if you're, if you're not chasing a dream that is creative, you're failing yourself. If you're not an entrepreneur, you're failing yourself.

And those are just all things that make me happy. And they are things that are, are, are a lot of times harder to obtain in society. Can I speak? But, but, but, but none of, none of anything that you do as a, as a human being that makes you happy can be invalid. Correct. And this is why I think that when people are like, Oh, don't be mediocre. That's our perception of mediocre mediocre.

What if that person living that life is 50 times happier and more content and balanced than we are? Cause we are not exactly, you don't consider yourself mediocre, but are we happy? We're, we're happy-ish, but that person could be life is misery. But there, there are people, there's only one way, which is misery. That's what it is. And we're all trying to justify, you know what I mean? I look at the little butterfly with the little, you know, you know, with the wings, how beautiful

is that? There's a God, but it's still miserable. We're just trying to like- As a butterfly, you mean a butterfly? No, no, no. That's a bad example. But like, no, what I'm saying is that like, you know, we go about our, you know, day trying to convince ourselves that we're happy, right?

But it's still a layer of news, news. It's miserable. Now, let me finish this point now. I wanted to make with this guy. He made a very good point that I agree with. It's not good, but I'm going to tell you why. Okay. This is what I gathered from what you said.

Did you write notes? You wrote notes? I did. I wrote notes. What did you say? I want to say Baker? No, yeah. Why did I say Baker on there?

Say Baker, baby. Hit him with the old Baker analogy. Let me get this straight, right? So what you're saying is that there are people out there that go, let's see, I could either put out this album, right, and then get a bunch of money on iTunes and go on a little tour and make a bunch of money and get just a knee deep pussy and money and all kinds of, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm talking this way. Okay. Or do I get up tomorrow at 7am to become a banker? She wrote down banker. I wrote down banker. That's what it was. You said banking. Sure.

Right? I don't think anyone does that. I think everyone's. I think people do though. People do. If they have two... No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. No, no, no. People become bankers because they didn't make it. What? No, no. That is not at all what it is. You are out of time. Hold on.

That was completely wrong. Bobby, what are you saying? Don't say that. We have people that are bankers. You trashed so many bankers. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I'm not saying that banking, right?

I'm not saying banking is a bad job. It's a noble job, but I'm just saying that if you had two options, right, it's set. I'm going to play Madison Square Garden right now, right? Listen to listen to what I'm saying and make for one show, make $250,000 or show up to this bank five times a week for a year and not even make that in one night. I don't think anybody would have taken the banking route. They have no money. Give me a notepad.

Yeah, go ahead. Write it down. Madison Square Garden. Madison Square Garden. I'll use a very tiny example. Give me an example of somebody that go, you know what? I don't want to be on Modern Family. I want to, I want to work at Home Depot.

I'll tell you a person right like, like Jules would not want to be on Modern Family. I think that you're speaking from a very like driven point of view, which is, you know, you're speaking on behalf of your own dreams and how much you wanted them, right? And not everybody has that same, like for instance, I'll be real with you. I thought that I would feel completely fulfilled, working less and not slaving away in a hospital 12 hours on my feet as a nurse. That's why I quit nursing and I thought, okay, work smarter Kalyla. Now you work less days and you make more money, but I can't tell you that I feel nearly as

good as I did, you know, bedside with somebody. Yes. All I'm saying is I'm not happier now than I was then. Yeah, you are. I'm not. Exactly. You are. You are.

I was so sure I would. You don't know you are. But you are. You don't know that you are. Because life is misery, right? That's what you're in right now, dude. All right. You also got to take into account too, like somebody was, somebody working as a banker

may feel more fulfilled because they have a family that, that that's their dream is to have a loving family supporting them. A lot of, a lot of artists, me included, want to stay away from that shit as long as possible. I'm not speaking for you, I'm just speaking for myself, but like I'm, I'm trying, I'm trying, obviously I'm an artist. I want to be a musician. I do want to sell out Madison Square Garden if I can, but that's my, that's my end goal. For somebody, somebody's end goal could, could have a lot more to do with the other aspects

of life than their profession as well. And I think that's, I think that's just as valid. That's true. And I think that profession is only one aspect of someone's, you know, in their inner pie chart of their life. Okay, you're right. Profession isn't 100% of your happiness. You're right.

You're right. You're right. That last one was good. For me, the profession is a good 70 to 80% of it. And I think for a lot of artists and a lot of musicians, it kind of has to be. And I count comedy as, as an art, obviously you do too, right? As an art? Yeah.

Yeah, I do. Thank you, Noah. It is an art. Even when you were performing, it's an art, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's not as expressive sometimes like music.

You can do more, but it is, I, I'm going to, I could argue this point. Okay. Argue it. Argue it. I don't want to do it anymore. I want to hear your final Jerry Springer words. No, we're not, we're not doing it because we're, we obviously, right, are several different kinds of people in this room.

Yeah. All right. That's true. You have the ones that are living in a dream. Living in a dream state, delusional and cray cray, like the kids say, and one that has a foundation. All right. And that's realistic.

To what? Gabe. Checkmate. I don't, you know, I just, you know what, what he said though is, is convincing. I agree with you. I guess. I don't know. I don't know people like that.

I want to see the other things on your notes. It just says banker versus musician. Okay. Right. And I don't just don't know if, you know, I mean, if somebody, I think people become bankers when they didn't make it as a musician. I don't know, man. Yeah, because I don't, I don't know, because I'll tell you why, because this is why the

podcast, I love arguing, but the thing is, but I don't know the example. Like you never, you have to tell me like, Oh, so, um, Paul Simon, right? He works at Whole Foods, right? Yeah. Then I go to Whole Foods and I see Paul Simon bagging groceries, right? From Simon and Garfunkel, you know, and then he's like, no, I'd rather do this is where my heart is. There's no way that's never happened.

That's never happened in the history of life, right? It's always the guy like, you're a banker now. Yeah. I think you were in a band called the Go Dreams or whatever, right? I think that can happen. But we didn't. Yeah. We did a couple of years did the row, but we just couldn't get anyone to pay attention.

And you know, we all have, we all need to make money. Yeah. But see, that's what it is. It's not, it has nothing to do with. That does happen. No. 90 all the time. It does happen, you know, what's really enraging to me is when people think that they're too

good for a certain job. So they stay broke and they mooch off of other people rather than say, you know what? Yeah. I'm going to drive an Uber and make ends meet when they think that they're just too far. They're too way too fucking cool for a, for any job. That pisses me off. That enrages me. It's like that's that story I told you about when I auditioned for Nat TV a long time ago

and there was another lady, I told you about that story. Another lady that said, um, that she was auditioning too, she was at the final one. And I go, you going to do this? And she's like, they're only paying $7,000, you know what I mean, a week. And I want 10. So I go, yeah, but we're young and this is our first show, seven's fine. She's like, no, I'm asking for 10. And then 15 years later, I was at a restaurant and she goes, can I help you?

And I look up. It's the same girl. She's waiting tables. And the first thing she says to me, she goes, I should have taken the seven, but there's no shame in waiting tables either. She was about, she was on the precipice of killing herself. Oh no. Well, that that's the, you can tell that there was like, there was like, there was

something going on there. Right. What's that on a good note? No, we aren't. No, we're going to, we're going to do unhelpful advice. Right. I think, you know what? I think I got, I became a little too argumentative.

I put a little funk in the room. Right. That's, that's me too. Yeah. No, it's my fault. Okay. You made valid points. You made very good points.

No, let me ask you something. Okay. Do you live still north of us? Yeah, I do. Do you still lead same place you grew up? Yeah. I do. I live with my parents.

Still. You're never going to move outside of that area. No, of course I am. Would you ever moved to LA? Possibly. I wouldn't. Where do you want to go? I wouldn't want to.

Where would you want to live? Um, I want to live in France for a little bit. That was. That's got a lot of it. I just. I fucking love that. If I could. Yeah.

I want to live somewhere in Europe for a little bit. Um, yeah, but, but I want to, I want to end up. Back north. I want to end up as close to the city as possible. Um, San Francisco. San Francisco. Yeah. It's the best town.

It's incredible. I don't want to live in San Francisco. I'm starting to realize more and more. It's. Kind of awful. How far are you from, um, San Francisco, the town you. Are you? Are you from?

Like if I'm in, if I'm in San Francisco and I text you and I go, let's go grab lunch. Is it too far? No. No, I'm pretty close. Like where we are. Um, I'm probably like an hour away if there's traffic. Oh, okay. Wow.

It's, it's nice. And I want to, I want to be, I don't, I don't care if I live in San Francisco, I don't care if I live in Oakland, but as long as I'm near them, I'll probably end up being very happy. Now, this album that you made, is it out right now? It's not out yet. When did it come out? It comes out in July.

Okay. So what's your, you have the gate promotion, promotion. It's a, all I can say is it's July right now. All right. So Noah Mack has a new album coming out in July, everybody. All right. Now I'm going to say something right now, um, you know, I was excited when Paul Banks did the show a couple of weeks ago, right?

Um, this to me is just as exciting Noah Mack, because, um, I genuinely think this kid has a future. He might become a banker later. I don't know. You know what I mean? He'll be happy. Right. But this kid has.

He said 70, 80% on this podcast. Yeah. This kid, hey, listen to me guys right now, this kid has the ability. He, he, he's on, you know, he's got the thing, you know, that thing that touch. He has it in his eyes. He has it in his voice. He has it as a person. He's cool as fuck.

Right. Um, and by him even being in this little tiny, you know, apartment in Hollywood, right? It's, it's, there's just so much joy coming from me because, um, you're the first one because I love those kinds of shows that ever like responded to me. I'm being real and I respect, and I do it all the time. Like I follow Addison Agon. She don't know nothing. I, I say shit.

She don't know nothing. Brooks, I stopped following her cause she wouldn't follow me back. Chloe Cahansky said one thing, right? So fuck that. You're the guy. All right. But in July, his album comes out. I really sit where you can do itunes everywhere, everywhere, download it.

Don't do cheap shit. Right. Fucking pay for the full price. I'm going to do it. Um, so at the end of our show, we do this thing called unhelpful advice and you don't have to be a professional. Say whatever your heart says. All right.

How long are you in town for a week? Uh, no, I'm leaving tomorrow. When did you get here? Uh, a couple of days ago. Do you have to do you a pressure? Um, this is, this is the first press that I'm, that I'm doing. I don't even have any, anything lined up yet. So what's your handle?

No, I'm at no Mac like Twitter. Yeah. I think if you just type in Noah Mack, it'll come up. It'll come up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're not.

Are you verified? Nope. Oh man. Oh. That do it real. Be pro, but I know you're a real I'm hopeful, but forget it. Okay. And don't go back.

It's not good. Hello captain. No, this will be a good question for you as well. Uh, hello captain. I'm 18 years old. I live in Utah and I don't do much except work in high school. I didn't really give a shit. I just wanted to graduate.

And so now I don't know what I want to do in my life. I have always liked the idea of doing comedy or music, but I can never actually get myself to try because I am too scared of failing. What can I do to get myself to actually do it? We'll call him a K music, too scared of failing. I know a lot of people like that. And I think, I think it comes down to again, knowing what you really want out of the end of it.

Um, if you're, if you're in it for a certain type of success, know what that success is. And then the only thing that you need to do is work toward that. And that way it becomes less about, well, what do I do? And what if I fail this and what have I failed that? If you're working towards that goal that you set for yourself, then it's going to make it a lot easier. That being said, I, I don't know. I don't, I'm probably not the best person to ask about this.

I think that failing is so crucial. There is no, I think that failing is something that you absolutely have to happen in your life multiple, multiple, multiple times. And just, I always say this, like fail forward. And I, there's this, there's this Daft Punk song. I know that people don't go to Daft Punk for lyrics, but there's this one Daft Punk song. Who saw the lyrics? Yeah, it says like, if you lose your way tonight, that's how you know the magic's right.

But I think that's part of life. It's like, you have to be willing to lose your way in order to sort of see what you're capable of, see what you want out of life and sort of, you know, find what might make you happy, you know? I agree. You never live in the results. If you do something and you say, oh, if I do this, this, this and this will happen, which is never the case.

So you just have to just do it because you love it. And then whatever happens from it, either you get signed and you blow the fuck up, you get on the voice, somebody asks you to be on the voice or whatever it might be. Those things, he didn't plan that. No one met him and go, I want to be on the voice. They offered a term. He had to make a decision. It wasn't something that he, you know, he thought some, he listened to people's advice

and his parents and stuff and he did it, right? But you just got to just do it because you love it and then see what happens. Yeah. And it's like, if music and you already have two things that you say you're into and that's a lot more than, you know, what people can say for themselves at 18, I didn't know what the, I couldn't even say, oh, I like comedy or music. I was just like, you know, dumb fuck teenager, like, what do I like? I don't know what I like.

I do have to agree and I say that in, because of technology and where we're at as a society, it is, I guess, a lot easier, I think, becoming an artist in general than it was. I think that, you know, you have obviously YouTube stars and some of them would have never made it without YouTube, but some of them are very talented and I have to admit that. I admit that, I admit that if you look at, like, you know, some YouTubers and guys that didn't do the traditional thing that I did, which is work your fucking ass off, show up and open mics for 20 years and you fucking crawl your way up to the top, you know, you

just turned on a fucking mechanism and go, hi, I'm JoJo and look at my fucking punch that I made. And they're like, you can use, make this with watermelon juice and whatever. And then people go, we like it. And then they get the fans. Right. I didn't do watermelon juice. I did, right.

Show up at an open mic at a comedy club in Hollywood, wait nine hours to do three minutes. You do that every fucking week for 10 years. Oh my God. My bad. My bad. I got emotional. Do that. Do that.

All right. Give me another question. I'm not done. The last one is not really an helpful advice. They just have a question. We got it a couple of times actually is Bobby, why do you hate magicians? What is the root? See, I don't hate them.

I just don't trust them. It's like, um, no, it's like this and I'm being real. If I'm walking down the street and I go, some guy goes, Hey, you're Bobby Lee, you're a comedian, right? And I go, yeah, what do you do? And they're like, I'm a warlock. I'm out. I don't look them in the eyes because that's what they say in the books.

Okay. And I just go straight. I just go follow the ground and just get the fuck out of there. Interesting. I don't fuck with magicians, warlocks, wizards, sorcerers of any kind of sorcery, I don't do any of that shit. And that's one of the reasons because it's a portal to, you know, it's a gateway drug to the heavens, the gates of hell.

Have you not seen Aladdin when, when, um, Jafar turns into the sorcerer? Oh, at the very end. Yeah. That's a scary thing. You got a sorcerers or not to be trusted. I'm with you, babe. I don't like, you know, I don't like, do you like magicians? Yeah, I love you.

I love you. Yeah. I don't know. I used to a lot when I was younger. I used to have all the magic tricks. I used to do tricks for my family, loved it so much because you, because when you practice enough, right? But it.

No, I sucked. I didn't practice enough. I know. But still you were like, you still did the trick good enough for people to go, oh, that was amazing. No. No. Okay.

Well, honestly, it's so funny how fast though, like they can do this, right? And they have like, you know what I mean, 19 things behind their hand and they think, right? You do like magicians. I do. That's why it's such a crazy town. He just doesn't want to be in front of one, like he'll watch them on YouTube, but he doesn't want to meet one.

I don't ever want to meet him. So if David Blaine wanted to do this podcast, here's the thing though, it's not because I don't believe in what they do. I really do believe they're freaks. It's magic. He believes in magic. I believe in magic and they're freaky because there are certain things that they do that are so or they'll keep 15 dubs and it doesn't look like nothing's in their arms.

America's Got Talent. Yeah. Like he does believe Voldemort exists. I do. Yeah. So fuck on them. I like musicians, not magicians. That's what my grandfather used to title the episode.

So let me, I have one last question for you. Noah, are there anybody that you still text frequently from the show that was another contestant? Yeah. Who? Yeah. This guy, Stefan, he was out, I think around the knockouts or something. He is such an incredible person to me and he's grown to be one of my best friends.

No. Stefan? Yeah. Stefan Marcellus. Okay. He's great. He's just an amazing human being. Obviously, we don't make very similar music, but I still, I actually just, I'm working

on a track for him that I'm producing and we just hang out and jam still, which is super, super fun for me because I need that. And he's just, I can't tell you like how incredible of a person he is. Yeah. Stefan. Look him up too on YouTube guys. Yeah. Stefan.

Right. But I honestly believe this is that you have a knack for even talking. We really like you here. Oh, thank you. This is, we, this is, we're not pushing. This is, I could talk to you forever and I could argue with you forever and I encourage you. You know, you're so old, the fact that you're so wise.

It's such a young age. Yeah. It's crazy. We were dumb fucks when we were your age. I still pick my nose and eat it. He does. And you know what? He can't tell time.

I do. I can't tell time. Did you have to say that out loud? Yeah. I really do. You know, and sometimes I'll pick my nose in the car. Yeah. Right.

And I'll roll it into a ball. Like intending to eat it. But I, I saw one time Brooke Shields, some paparazzi saw her eat her booger and I'm sure, and that's not good. So. But if it's out there, it's out there. Yeah, but it's not a good look. You know what I mean?

Don't eat your boogers. They're so delicious. But they are like pretty salty. Everyone's eating their boogers. If you have any post-mage old drinks. Have you eaten your boogers? I, I can't say. I probably have when I was young.

I don't know. But, but I wouldn't know. Yeah. I wouldn't, sweetie. All right. Can I say this? Are they, are they salty? Tell me that they're, it's a little salty.

I'm going to say this to this young guy, right? You eat your boogers every day. You just, you don't take it out of your face. It goes internally. Post-mage old drinks. Right. So you're sucking in and it goes into your body. You can pick your nose, but the ingesting of said mucus.

Right. But it goes the other way. What does that provide? It's called flavor. Okay. Right. You don't even heard of flavors. You don't know everything now.

You don't know everything. Right. Like for instance, right? Why do you chew gum? That's why you eat boogers. You like the flavor. I like. Does boogers freshen your breath?

No, but it's got like a, it's got sort of like a, what do you say? You know, oh, like when you eat Korean barbecue, right? And sometimes, you know, on the skillet or whatever they use, they have a burnt piece of like. The char. Char. Right. Sometimes that char can taste like a booger.

Okay. So I have a question. I have a question. Do you only eat what's rollable? Like the sticky. All right. You know what? I didn't even want to get into it, but you want to get into it?

I'll get into it. All right. I don't eat my boogers every day. I do it maybe three times a year. I do it when it's. Rollable. It's a rollable situation. Right.

Yeah. And. No, no, no. I have another question. Please let me ask this. Cause you know, if you get some, if you get a really wet booger, but if you air it out for five minutes, then you can roll it. Yeah.

Do you ever do that? Yeah. And I'll still do this. I'm going to watch this. So these are your teeth, right? It's a diagram. And we'll give you a diagram. It's a Venn diagram.

Those are some interesting teeth. All right. These are teeth. Okay. These are gums, right? One baby. All right. No.

Right. Right. And these are your front teeth, but let's say that these are behind these. Let's say these are your teeth from behind. You're shooting it this way out, right? And you know, like if I was looking at you, this would be your head shooting out that right? This is your head.

I don't know what's happening. Yeah. There you are. I thought, you know, we're looking out. What I do is I'll, I'll roll the bugger right into a ball and just stick it right here. Oh, man. Let me see. I want to see.

On your tooth? Behind your tooth? Behind the tooth, right? Like to bat. Like, you know, in like a... Chewing. Like a spackle. Right.

And I'll just let it cake it in there for like six hours. Oh. And you just... Man. And you just... Man. ...ever or hours. The slowly...

Anyway, that's just something I do. Three times a year. Three times a year. I'm going through a slump. He just eats boogers every day. He's got real. You know what? I'm going to sell this photo.

Sign it. I'm going to sign it right here. I'm signing this photo, right? A fan can get this. Yeah. Booger. I can't be with a booger either. Featuring Noah Mack.

Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Sign here. Sign this up here. Noah Mack. I'm going to see if the ending one will buy this. Okay.

I'm being real. We'll put it online. Yeah. Right. So let's see. And I'm going to sign. This right here is called Booger. That's no expense phase, right?

That's the Booger on the tooth. This is a pretty good drawing. Behind the tooth. Behind the tooth. We'll start. I'm going to sell this for. Bid. Bid.

Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid.

Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid. Bid. You just, like, put it in a scroll, like, type, sweetie. Great energy.

Great energy boost, George. You know it's like, you know what, what it is this is that, you know, sometimes right so you know, let's say you're a fisherman. Let's say you're a fisherman, right, and you're on a boat with, you know, a bunch of fisherman And the new guy comes along and when he puts the cast out, the whole rod goes into the water, right? And he goes, oh, you know, I got nervous, right? That's this guy.

Throwing rods. No, not that. Just a guy that he shouldn't be on the boat. He should not be on the boat, but he is on the boat and we have to pretend, you know what I mean? One more word out of here right now, man. I love you. Okay.

I fucking love you. But your cousin right here knows that you're being a foolish thing and you're, and you're a, and let me say something too. Okay. See this. All right. This is the future. Right.

Right. I think the word you use is right. White. This is the right. White. Right. And you are the wrong kind. I want you to, I want you to find the light.

Okay. George, I want you to find the light and here's, and here's another thing you fucking assholes on the internet, right? Is when I talk to people like this, I'm not being an alpha male. This is just the way I talk to people. So, you know, people on Twitter, they go, yeah, we hate Tiger Billy because Bobby Lee acts like an alpha male and they all like, get scared, but they're not really scared. They know they're scared.

Okay. I'll just get like, did that hurt? Yeah. So, um, so listen guys, um, this is the first, I think this is the first guy that we've had right, number one, that I didn't meet beforehand, first time, first time, like every guest we've ever had is somebody that I had at least had one conversation. Yeah. Correct.

But it, we hit it off and I, would I like about, he disagrees with me. He doesn't fully go with me with the whole banker and all that stuff, right? Um, and this has just been just a heaven sent fucking thank you for contacting us. Oh, thank you. And I, here's, and I'm being for real, um, let Tiger belly be a home away from home for you. So if you ever want to plug things, listen, Noah, I mean, we have a pretty good audience and thousands and thousands and I know, thank you.

But your family here and don't always ask for stuff. We'll be there for you. And when you get real, you sell out Madison square garden, don't forget us peasants. I got you. So give Noah Mac a round of applause, download his fucking album in July. Okay. Guys, give him a round of applause. Thank you so much.

All right. What, no, what, and I apologize. I attacked you. You, I was, I said a lot of that stuff, I mean, when I was, you know, on a thing, thank you. That's what he wanted you to say, right? We're also moving so the next time you come visit us, it will be in our house. Nice.

And I think you'll like it, but, um, but you are coming back for next year at least. Yeah. I'm being real. I think it'd be nice for you to come back every year, right? To see where you're at. Yeah. Progress. Right.

Um, and God bless you. Thank you. And take care. Give him a round of applause. We'll be right back with some housekeeping and we are back. What? Oh, Klyla coming in hot with that egg. It looks really good.

Actually. This is really rude of me, but I'm so hungry. My sugar is dropping. Maybe she needs to eat guys. Sorry. So you guys can, can wrap it up. Um, Noah Mack. Great episode.

Smart kid. Oh yeah. I wonder when you were that age. Were you smart and composed like that? I'm not that composed now. He thought about things a lot. Like that was a very composed, smart, like answers like he knew what he wanted in a sense. You know what's a, and you know, I can tell he was really composed because like I feel

like even people of my age and younger that are in like the comedy world with Bobby, like Bobby will start talking and it's like, and we're done. But he was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, let me get my point across. Let me get my point. So it's like, okay, he like knows what he wants to say. He cannot be shut down. He cannot. Yeah.

Oh, damn it. How do you raise a kid like that? We need to talk to his parents. You can also tell he's a different type of kid because his parents are the ones that made him do the voice. He was like, I want to be on TV. He's like, fuck that. Well, they probably like knew what his dreams was, you know, it was like, this is for you

because you need this. It felt like, like you want this, then you better start doing it. I think that's what we found, especially appealing about him on the show is that he looked like he didn't belong there. He was almost, I feel, too cool for that show because it's such a mainstream show and you could tell that, you know, he had a lot of say in how he arranged his arrangements and all of that. So we always thought that even though we loved watching him, we thought that, oh, he was

way too cool for it. My opinion. Hello, Kawinda. Hi. Sorry. Guys, it's long. Come on. Jump on in.

Remy and Kobi are a walk. Kawinda is in the room. Okay. It was after we were recording because we're still housekeeping. Hey, people have missed you. You want to jump on? Okay. She says no.

Thank you. No worries. Maybe you guys will get her on episode 200. Who knows? Maybe all moms. You're good. She just flicked me. She just flicked me on.

Hey, who was that aimed at? All of us. Not me. Not everyone, but Kolaela. Guys, if you want more Tiger Belly, get premium audio episodes every week only at patreon.com slash tigerbelly. And thanks to everyone else or everyone who actually wrote us an iTunes review last week. No shortlist, but pie to you, my friends.

And if you haven't done it, will you please leave us a review, read verbatim. And to everyone who has an interesting... I'm kidding. You finally did it right, so I'm happy. To everyone who has an interesting problem, we have a new email for Unhelpful Advice. I can't even talk right now. That's why I have to do it verbatim. It's adviceunhelpful at gmail.com. And George is one of the greatest producers of all time.

Guys, any shout outs? I'd like to give a shout out to my ex-male man and his wife who listens to the show. And because we felt during the whole poop-raging neighbor lady fiasco that they felt like allies. And yeah, shout out to them. They got some merch, right? They get to rep it now? Yeah, but actually that's what I wanted to ask you. We need to get our ex-male man the poop-rager shirt, because I promised him that, because

he got a kick out of it. He got to see it every time he jumped off the bench. Yeah, I mean, he had to go up and down Beachwood, and he told us he's like, it goes pretty far up there. George, anyone, you want to shout out any concepts in life, theology, philosophy, anything? Nope. My banker friend who was a failed politician. And I just realized that after the long talk that, yeah, the only banker I know wanted

to be a politician and didn't make it. I don't think I know any bankers. What did you always deep down, what is one thing you always wanted to be that you didn't have the balls to say? Because you thought either you probably could never do it. Do you ever have that? I mean, I think I said, I think I said, winning an Oscar, which I don't think is possible, but I thought that.

Oh, but that's still in line with being an actor and all of that. But is there any like off-shoot, like weird thing that you're like? I've always wanted to do that, but I just, I can't even entertain the idea because I'll never get there. Politician. Politician. Yeah, I can't do it. Not I'm like old, I'm like, nope.

You can do it. The Philippines is fucking full of dumb fucks. I think it's my dad kept pressing that on me because he was a politician. Yeah, but to be a politician in the Philippines, it doesn't take a lot. Come on, fucking mani Pacquiao is like punch drunk. I'm so true. You know what I mean? Like we had Arab Estrada who didn't pass the fifth grade.

Oh gosh. You know what I mean? Like he was just an action star. He was the equivalent of an uneducated Van Damme. What do you mean? He grew up rich. Just not a man of the people. He was just an actor who he was an action star, but was uneducated, but he wasn't even

like a blue collar guy. So there you go. Yeah, you could. That's still, if that's a dream of yours, it's plausible. In the Philippines. Yeah, in the Philippines. In the Philippines. Calila, where can we follow you?

At Calamity K. You didn't ask me about my dream. Oh, what's your dream? I know what it is. What, astronaut? No, I'm afraid of heights. I feel like that's you all day. No, what astronaut is not what I wanted to be.

What is it? When I was in the second grade, I wrote down that I wanted to be a film director and I was never allowed to ever entertain that thought again. Wait, are you serious? I'm being serious. That's so crazy because our past couple conversations we've had recently. Why is that? Why is this the first I've ever heard of this?

I just never thought to give it any, you know, I was never allowed to put any thought or emotion into that because it was something, I was like, science, you know, science. Well, I'm going to say that's so crazy because I, before I even knew that we were talking about a script in the car and the way I was like, you really got to beat this out like a writer and show me what it is, show me like where the different things in the story is. But every time you explained it, you, I told you, you explained it like a director. You already had all the visuals, all the, I think you could, I storyboard in my head, which is what a, how a director thinks, but I cannot actual storyboard.

So I wish someone could pick apart my brain and storyboard it for me. Oh, yeah. You have a storyboard. You think like a director, not good at communicating. Like I have, they do it and then you see if it like fulfills your vision. Dude, you have a director's mind. Take it. I believe it.

You're going to direct something this year. Thank you. It's going to be a Filipino prison, prison drama. No, dramedy. No, it's going to be a Filipino prison musical. That's what it was. A prison musical. That's what I wanted.

A little ambitious, but I'm going to throw it out in the universe. I will say within the next two, Narcos meets, um, what's that one on CW, Crazy X, Crazy X girlfriend. Yeah. Narcos meets Crazy X girlfriend, but set in the Philippines, prison musical, but I will say within two years, Colada will have directed a short within two years. Oh, I can do that. Exactly.

I think we can do that. I think we're going to do that. I think I'm just. I think we've already done it. I think we're just not talking about it. Oh, yeah. I think it's already a network is buying it. What?

Anyways, we'll stop there. We're revealing too much. Uh, George, we're going to follow you. I am so lost. I don't think so. I don't have to score Kimmel on Instagram, please give me the 10,000 so I can get the swipe up feature. Oh, yeah.

Do you have a swipe up feature after 10,000? Yes. I've had that. Have you ever not known about the swipe up picture? I've never known that. I've had that at like 500. Oh, what? I think, did they change it though?

For real? Did they change the? I don't have it. You do have it. I do. Oh, wait. I don't have it. Oh, sure.

Uh, let's, uh, to the person who knows, please give me 10,000 so I can get the swipe up feature. Thank you. You just have to switch over to a business account. Oh, that's. I don't want to do that. Yeah. I will. Nice Hallock and Yuck.

Yeah. Business account Yuck. Yeah. Yuck, George. Useful. Sell out. I try to be useful. There you go.

Okay. Cool. Sell out. But cool. Okay. Guess I won't promote your short with a swipe up feature. I'll do it as much as I can. It's already, it already got bought.

It already got bought. We'll tell you, we'll tell you about it after that we dropped the cares. Sure. We'll tell you about it after. You guys are so. How much else are you keeping from me? Don't worry about it. Are we behind the paywall and lyrical already?

I don't even know it. Guys. Wow. So much confusion at the end of this podcast. Bye. Bye. Oh, before I go. Sorry.

You guys can go. Don't stop paying attention. Okay. Guys, I am in this food show if you don't know. Okay. There's a great episode. It was the best episode I ever did on that show. It was with Bobby.

He's super useful if you could swipe up to see it. Okay, George. Get under 10K. And Bryce will say. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. And if you want to check it out, you can watch the show.

It's called Family Style on Facebook, watch, or stage 13.com. The Slup King's in it. It's really fun. I hope they released the unedited longer 30 minute version because that set was chaos when Bobby was on there. They have some good parts, but it's a fun one. Have a good night. Bye!

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