TigerBelly - Jim Belushi & The Karate Ghost
Episode Date: October 1, 2025JimJim Belushi joins the gang and gets bluesy with Bobby. We chat Karate Ghosts, SNL memories, According to Jim, Losing friends, Blues Brothers, Ding Game chaos, bombing at Improv,... Belushi’s new projects Sing Sung Blue and Chronology of Water. Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/BELLY and use code BELLY and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/p06g4a8g #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.
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Jukumbollah she is here, I cannot believe it.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Oh!
Are you an E?
What, you want E minor?
Just E.
I'll go E.
I'm doing E right now.
Whoa.
All right.
Just had that all.
You guys, I, you know.
Always carry a harmonica.
Like, really?
Every white guy carries around a harmonic.
You have one, dude?
Yes, I have one in my glove.
Okay, okay, all right.
Got to be in your pocket.
Well, yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to like break free of the whiteness.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you can't really break free truly.
Yeah.
That's what my grandfather used to say.
Yeah.
You cannot break free for truly.
Especially white.
That's what you say.
So we got some people in the room.
Mark,
have you done this pod before?
No, I have, but in Hawaii.
It was like the travel pod.
You guys gave me a call
because someone flaked out, so I filled in.
Oh, right.
Well, welcome back.
It was good to be scheduled.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, welcome back, Mark.
Thank you.
I'm excited.
We have Andrea Jin here.
She's a Korean.
A Chinese comic.
Chinese.
Yeah.
There's no Korean whatsoever.
Yeah.
Maybe a little.
Sorry to hear that.
Yeah.
But anyway, guys, but that's not about you guys.
Yes.
And that's the truth.
The truth is about this young man I have to my left.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
It's about me.
What I was wondering when you were going to get to me.
Yeah.
Jim Belushi, living legend.
Do you hate when people call you a legend?
Yeah, it freaks me out.
Yeah, call up.
Jim, get Jim Belushi legend.
Legend.
All right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that puts me into a different category.
No, but we grew up watching you, dude.
I know.
You live in the moment every day.
Yeah.
You forget about that.
Next year will be 50 years for me to show us.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
The ups and downs?
Oh, yeah, there's a few.
Yeah, yeah.
Were there sad moments?
Oh, yeah, there were a lot of sad moments.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Isn't that part of the fun?
Yeah, yeah.
But during the sad moments, Woodie.
you feel like you go you you plan it out like I'm gonna get myself out of these sad moments
and do this this or do you succumb to the sadness oh succumb yeah yeah yeah i'm feeling i'm feeling
sad oh i'm gonna milk this shit man yeah what's the matter jimmy oh you really do that i love it but you and i did a
couple of movies last
year. This, well, yeah, last year. Yeah, last year and this year
we did a movie called Guttermuckers.
Oh, God, you were so funny, man.
Oh. You are so funny.
I got so excited when they cast
you in the last one.
What was it called? The one, the last one
of Karate Ghost.
Karate Ghost.
Guntermuckers and karate ghosts.
We are right there on the Academy
List for this year.
When you get it in your email and you get to vote, you'll see, gutter muckers,
supporting actor, Bobby Lee, just press yes.
Karate is like the Asian harmonica, too, so.
You think so?
Yeah, you have an orange.
We have it in my pocket as well, yeah.
We have Tequendoam, I'm Korean.
Sorry.
Yeah, I have Tequendo in my pocket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But thanks for that inside, Mark.
You know a lot about Asians.
You're from the Bay Area.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I do.
Have you ever had sexual intercourse with one?
Okay, good. Congratulations.
Yeah, congratulations.
My first blow job was an Asian girl.
Wow.
Been chasing it ever since.
Wow.
Asian guys don't give his good...
But, yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
That's true.
Have you gotten a blow job from an Asian guy?
Not an Asian guy, no.
Yeah.
No.
Have you been bisexual?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
White guys are the best.
They practice on harmonica.
Oh, yeah.
Because if you can suck and blow, you can play harmonica.
That's, yeah, that's how it goes
Dick is a gateway drug
Yeah, wow
And everything is about this size
Yeah
Do you have to, how long do you have to learn
I mean, it seems like a difficult thing to learn
Well, you know what to do it properly
It is because there's a thing called tongueing
Where you use your tongue to block half the hole
And when you bend it
And I just saw John Mayo at the
Auditorium Theater
in Chicago and I was 16.
And I got to tell you, I don't know
it's a sound system or what, but
it was the most incredible
sound coming out of this little
thing. And I went to a music store
and I bought a C-Hormonagia and I just
played it in the car.
Wow. And I just learned on my own. So I really
have bad habits. Yeah.
You were 16. Yeah.
Wow. Was your brother John into
music as well back then?
At 16, he
was at Second City.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, he was in the comedy acting.
But yeah, he was in the music.
Yeah.
Did you ever get to see his shows?
Oh, yeah.
I saw him all.
Yeah.
Saw him all over and over and over and over and over and over.
Imagine.
Over and over.
Oh, yeah.
I learned Second City by watching.
Watching.
Then when I auditioned, I blew him away, you got right now.
Of course, yeah.
I mean, did you, who was in the show with John when he would perform back then?
Great cast.
Joe Flaherty.
Love.
I know.
I'm friends with Good.
His daughter, yeah, I know good.
Yeah.
Joe Flaherty was...
Do you see, you know who Joe Flaherty is?
Mm-mm.
Do you ever see Happy Gilmore One?
Mm-mm.
Or Second City TV?
Yeah, he was the president of...
I wish I had seen all these.
Oh, man, that's such great stuff.
It's YouTube.
Okay.
Harold Ramos.
Legend.
Oh, wow.
Legend.
Yeah, Harold Ramos is there.
There we are.
Okay, zoom it in, zoom it in.
Yeah, there's Harold.
Yeah.
Okay.
There's John.
John.
Joe.
It's Eugenie Ross Lemieux, terrific writer.
Yeah.
Great photo.
Jim Fisher, who was another great, great writer, very funny, man.
Yeah.
And Judy Morgan, I don't know where she is right now.
I know, but that was, that cast right there was the one.
Wow.
Was Blasucci there yet, or no, Dick Blasucci?
No, Dickie came way after.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I pooed on his desk.
You did?
Yeah, he did.
Oh, that was his desk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nicky?
Yeah, Nikki's desk.
Tell me the story about it.
I felt bad about it.
Did you?
I mean, you're going to be that brave.
You should be able to good about it.
I did it as a joke.
It was a joke, but it was awry.
Well, what happened was Ike Baranholz and Nicole Parker were writing something in Dick's office.
And there were Alka-Seltzer tablets, you know what I mean, on his desk.
Right.
Yeah, and I jammed two of them in my butthole.
And then I, you know, it felt.
phoned like a mad dog
What a great kid
Why isn't that in Guttermunker?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It went
Right, and then I
wanted to shoot them out
Yeah.
But other things came out as well.
And then everyone just died laughing
And then Dick walked in and he goes,
clean it up.
So that's pretty much the
Yeah.
Anyway,
Anyway, that's story.
But so you then
then John left
at Second City and then you
then you auditioned.
Or did you guys perform?
Oh, no, he left in, oh, God, when did he leave?
He left in 72, maybe.
72, yeah.
Went to New York, did Lemmings.
Yeah.
For National Ampoon.
Yeah.
And he did that famous Joe Cocker.
Amazing.
Yeah, it was amazing.
Yeah.
And he became like a darling of New York.
And then he took that show on the road.
He directed it.
And he came back and did National Ampoon Radio Hour with all these guys.
Wow.
Oh, he got, he brought all the second city people in from Billy Murray to Gilda to Danny.
Wow.
And then they did the Lampoon show, stage show, which was very, very funny.
Mm.
God damn it, they were funny.
Yeah.
And then.
Did Belushi ever, your brother ever do it with Chevy Chase or no?
He did lemmings with Chevy.
Yeah, yeah.
Was Chevy easy to work with back to us?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, okay.
Poor, Chevy, you know, that poor guy hurt his back.
He's nice to me.
He hurt himself for comedy.
Oh, yeah, for Pratt Falls.
Those falls on the Saturday, that man, he threw himself in 100%.
Yeah.
He really injured himself.
And my understanding is, you know, when you have back troubles, people do opiates to help.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think he's kind of a struggle on and all.
I think he's fine now.
He's fine, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, there they are together.
Oh, my God, legends.
But on this show, they didn't really.
Danny and John didn't, my understanding.
it was, they didn't really care for Chevy.
Yeah.
Because they were acting their asses off.
Yeah.
And Chevy was looking right into the camera.
Yeah.
So he had the American's hearts, really.
Right.
Yeah.
And John and Danny are like busting their ass with these great imitations.
Yeah.
But Chevy is the one that's charming the crowd.
God, he's so good at that.
Yeah.
He was so good at that.
He was a good actor, too.
And when he was in Lemines, he was great.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so what was your second city experience like?
I had a ball.
You did?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I felt the most comfortable on that stage.
Yeah.
I felt alive.
Yeah, I used to go see the Friday, Saturday shows there, amazing shows.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We had the best cast.
We had a great time.
We had great shows.
Yeah.
Great writing.
I learned everything there.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then Hollywood.
You went Hollywood, man.
Well, Gary Marshall came to Second City
and saw a scene I did called White Horse Tavern.
Yeah.
Which really kind of a bio scene
because it was about the time I went
to see John in Lemmings.
And he took me to the White Horse Tavern.
And White Horse Tavern is where
Dylan Thomas drank himself to death.
Who's Dylan Thomas?
Google it, Google it.
Dylan Thomas's great Welsh poet.
No, no, no, no, I should, though.
Bob Dylan named himself after him.
Yeah.
Wow.
Oh, see, this guy, that's a good succumber.
What do you mean?
He's doing succumbing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
He was the greatest writer.
You knew him.
He's handsome.
No, I didn't know him.
He died at the White Horse Tavern, and John took me there.
And he told me this whole story about how he died.
I went back to Second City, and I told the story.
Yeah, yeah.
How did he die?
Or he drank himself?
Oh, oh.
Piled up 17 shots of whiskey.
But that's what they're supposed to do, right?
As like poets and writers.
I'm glad.
I think that is in the...
Yeah, isn't it like...
You're supposed to do that as a YouTube star now.
Yeah.
That's the new poet and writer.
At the beginning of the spring, moonless night
than the dumbfounded town, starless and Bible black, slow black,
crow black.
Oh.
Oh, fission.
Wow.
Fars.
That's our Mr. Beast.
Right now.
Yeah, wow.
Mr. B's same type of whale's poet.
My favorite one is, what seas did you sail,
old whaler in your fishing days long, long ago?
Oh, wow.
This is Rosie Probert talked in a captain cat who's blind.
Let's come up with one.
He goes, what seas did you sail in your fishing days long, long ago?
He goes, seas barking like eels, merman and whales.
blue seas and greens.
Wait a minute.
You could be making it up.
The only, here it is, here it.
Here it is.
Here's the line.
Here's the line.
Say whatever.
The only seas I saw
were the seesaw sees
with you writing on it.
Oh, wow.
That's a, wait.
That's beast.
Don't blow the punch line, motherfucker.
Okay.
All right.
The only, I got to go back now.
Start over.
Start over.
The only seas I saw were the seesaw seas.
With you riding on it, lie down, lie easy.
Let me shipwreck in your thighs.
Wow.
Oh, my God.
That's...
That's...
That'll give me pepper spray.
If I go to a bar, I go, let me fucking shipwreck.
I used to say that line at Second City every night.
What?
Wow.
On stage?
Yeah, we did a...
scene about the two brothers at the white horse
talking about death. And that's Dylan Thomas?
Yeah. Oh, wow. The only sea
I saw with the seesaw
sea with you riding on it.
Lie down, lie easy. Let me
shipwreck in your thighs.
Wait, this is what he would write.
So, like, it's erotic? Is it
always erotic? Oh, well, I mean,
his stuff is beautifully erotic,
but I wouldn't call it that.
But it's just beautiful
works. Yeah.
Anyway, that scene was a big scene.
Gary Marshall saw me in that scene
and then brought me out to Hollywood.
Wow. And then what happened? You came here and then...
I came here. I did a show with a guy named Larry Breeding, Wonderful Man.
With Gary Marshall, we did 13, got canceled.
I went back to City. What was it called?
The show.
Who's watching the kids?
Oh, who's watching the kids?
And the answer was nobody.
Yeah, yeah.
But I had a relationship with Gary Marshall.
Then he brought me back and I did another show.
called working stiff with Michael
Keaton. Oh wow. Do you guys know Gary Marshall?
Mm-mm. No. You don't know Gary Marshall?
Who's that? Sorry. I mean, he's
Leverna and Shirley? Happy Days? Happy Days? You heard of those?
I know happy days. Yeah.
Oh, he's funny. Yeah. Do he did it according to
Jim? He did according to Jim. Yeah, he's a legend.
He's a legend. You too, though.
Why is there a picture of Kathy Bates? He did pretty
woman? Yep. He did pretty woman.
There was a picture of Kathy Bates.
Yeah, he probably did misery.
Yeah, this guy's a legend.
Oh, yeah, he was wonderful.
I heard of misery.
Yeah, okay.
I don't know if he did misery, but yeah, yeah.
But you've seen pretty women.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was great.
You're a great guy.
Has he passed?
Yeah, he has passed.
Oh.
Penny, too.
Did he cry?
He was very close with Penny.
Did you cry?
I got a little upset.
There's a lot of people dying right now.
I know.
Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, I had a friend die two days ago.
Who?
Oh, no.
Is a famous person?
Well, to me, yes.
Okay.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, well, George went died a few months ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This friend of mine, Rob Riley, was really talented.
He wrote on Saturday Night Live with me.
He passed a couple of days ago.
Oh, my God.
Sorry, James.
It's all around.
It's all around, yeah.
It's killing me.
Yeah.
But guess what?
You're alive?
I'm alive.
There is.
I'm alive
A shipwrecked you dies
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah, that's amazing
Yeah
Yeah as you get
I assume that's the case
As you once you get a little older
That's gonna happen to me
Like I'll get a call
Jor or died
Right
And I'll be like
Oh no
No
No
Yeah
Yeah
You'll get a call in a couple weeks
About my death
So
No
You didn't look pale.
You should eat more.
Yeah, yeah.
He, like, looked at me.
Wow.
So then you went back to Chicago after, who was watching the kids.
Yeah, and I did Second City for another year.
Then I went and did working shifts.
And then I went and did a play by David Mamet called Sexual Proversity in Chicago.
Ooh.
He just did one of my podcasts, David Mamet.
Oh, he did?
Oh, wow, what a brilliant guy.
Yeah, he's a brilliant guy, yeah.
He's such a nice guy.
Yeah, yeah.
He said some wild things.
He's wild.
We edited those parts out.
He said some wild shit.
I couldn't believe it.
Yeah, he changed over the years.
This particular play, this character, Bernie Licko,
we took that play and we developed it into about last night with your friend Rob Lowe.
Oh, wow.
Great poster.
Great poster.
And that, we had to change the title because.
The movie couldn't be called Sexual Perversity of Chicago
because none of the theaters in the Midwest
would put that title on their marquee.
Whoa.
Because it looked like a porn thing.
So we called it about last night.
Oh, that's what changed my career.
That's it right there.
Wow.
And that's you.
Yeah, and there's Rob.
Yeah.
Demi Moore.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's a movie, right?
It's a great movie.
Yeah, about last night.
Yeah, and it still holds up.
I've got to tell you.
Who's the other lady there?
Elizabeth Perkins.
Very funny.
Okay.
Very talented actress.
That's Demi Rob.
What was Rob like back then?
Because I know him now.
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It's very funny.
Very talented actress.
That's Demi Rob. What was Rob like back then?
Because I know him now.
Same.
Yeah. A great guy.
Great guy. Great hang.
We had a bald working together.
Yeah. Absurdily handsome.
How did he look
so young, like still.
I don't know.
He's just jeans, baby.
That's just, that's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, he was great.
He doesn't look that different.
He was, you know what?
He used to get shit for being so good looking.
And nobody could look past it to see what a fine actor he was.
He was really good in this movie.
He acted his ass off.
Look at West Wing.
He kills, you know, how hard those lines are and to deliver it the way he did is,
so difficult. It's technical.
It's, you know...
Yeah. It's names and...
Yeah. Numbers and...
All that stuff. Yeah. I'm not good at that.
Well, I just passed on something.
Oh, tell you to me. Because there's so many names
and numbers in it?
John, John, John, John, 4.5, 6th.
Exactly what it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was... This was the guy.
It was, you know, it's an eight-part series. And I come in at the
beginning and at the end. And at the beginning, I'm a colonel's drinking
coffee and I'm the one
telling this guy all the information
yeah uh this Russian major
Andre Katsatsatsich I was in the
the RCA and the Kiki and then he was in the
and it was all numbers and latitudes
and I was like yeah
and at the end I had to explain everything
right I was that guy
yeah yeah I don't know man I can't do all those names
man not the Russian name yeah
yeah I've turned down roles if the lines are too complex
I can't pronounce English
I don't me either do
I can play your podcast
I don't know anything
yeah yeah
yeah a basic like karate ghost
well we did karate ghost
you and nice easy
we sat down that one scene
on that table
right easy
piece of cake man
this guy
paya
Kia
Kia
ooh
oh
no no shit man
this guy's
funny as fucking
in that movie, man. You? No, you
Oh, fuck on. Not me.
Impossible. I did an Asian accent.
We were improvising. Go play each other's harmonicas.
Yeah, what? I said, go play
each other's harmonica. Yeah, there you go.
Well, you know, let me say something, Mark.
Yeah. That's rude. Yeah, it is. Because I'll tell you
that's right. It's a reflection of how I did
gutter muckers, right? We did that
movie. That sounds like a slur, by the way.
It's a kid. It'll be on the academy list.
Okay. All the way down to cheat.
Me, Jim, Leslie Jones.
Yeah. That's a good group.
Eleanor. Oh, I love Eleanor.
That's not the poster.
That can't be the poster, right? I thought.
That cannot be the poster. It looks terrible.
You look, look, oh, don't get that belly. You look so funny in that.
That's the other poster. I hate that. I like that.
Oh, this, this reminds me of like animal house.
Yeah, I like that. I like that. I like that. And with me down in the middle there.
They're in the middle. Yeah. Where am I at in this?
The top of the house? Oh, the fact guy, yeah, yeah. Buttermark markers. Yeah. But it was
the first time me and Jim met and we
had dinner
we stopped dinner there and in my mind
I was like oh no
this guy you know we have a
friendship you know how
like sometimes you meet a dude at his
status you're like ah nah
right but this dude I was like no he's
cool same wavelength
yeah no just cool like
he's like not affected
you know I mean a regular person it's just a fucking working man
that's all I'm the blue collar shit
I'm a blue-collar guy, man.
I was raised in restaurants and shingled houses and painted houses.
Yeah.
I'd kick carpet.
I did everything for money, man.
Yeah.
And you still do the Blues Brothers.
Yeah, with Danny.
With Dan Aykroyd.
That's so cool.
Did they go on the road?
That's so cool.
Yeah, we just had a gig in Chicago at the House of Blues.
Wow.
That seems tiring.
Dan-da-da-da.
And you're just, like, constantly dancing.
Oh, it's the opposite.
Oh, you just stand there?
No.
Still, not booth.
We do it in a booth.
We do it in a booth.
You guys both go out there.
Oh, yeah.
Sing and dance, man.
Oh, we have a ball together.
And my daughter, who is now singer, songwriter.
She lives in Nashville.
She just joined the band.
So she's...
I know your daughter.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We did crudity goes.
You know, Jamie.
Of course.
Yeah, we did Cruddy goes together.
She was in karate goes through.
Oh, she was great.
There she is.
Look at her.
So she's in the band as well.
Yeah, that was sound check.
And that's you watching.
Great photo.
Great photo.
That cool.
You're so proudly.
Wow.
Yeah, before the show, yeah.
Yeah.
That looks so cool.
Yeah, it's cool, man, cool.
She's really good.
What's Dan Aykroyd like?
Oh, we sing the 17th and stretch at the Wrigley Field.
She's singing the national anthem and then we sing the 17th century.
She did the National Anthem at the Wrigley...
Did she bomb or killed it?
She killed it.
Okay.
And then she opened for the Windy City smokeout, 25,000 people in Chicago.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
That's...
Oh my God.
What a cutie, man.
I just love that little girl.
That's so great, dude.
Yeah, that's fun.
Yeah.
How old is she?
She just turned 26.
Wow.
There's the national anthem.
Wow.
and you know what I noticed she just loves you so much
when we were on set you know she would get you
tea and you know she was like really looking after
you yeah yeah yeah yeah her papa
have you guys always had a good relationship
oh we fight like cats and dogs
yeah that's part of it I guess
I don't know you feel like you could have been in her life more growing up
no I was okay
I'm not a journalist
I'm bad dad
Jim are you a bad father
I am a bad father
I'm a bad father.
Do you think you're a bad father?
I think I'm a terrible phone.
You don't seem like it.
I don't even have one photo with my dad.
Yeah.
Especially singing it on a stage.
Yeah.
I've hurt my children.
No.
That's not being a bad father.
Every good father hurts their children.
Yeah, my dad hurt me so much every day.
Look at what I came out.
Yeah, I wish my dad.
Thank you for the comedy, dad.
I couldn't be funny without that tragedy, Dad.
what could have you done differently though if you could go back nothing right i think i would
you know i i did according to gym for eight years right down the street here yeah oh my kids
were like going all through grade school i was there every day i was taking them to school i pick
him up we had dinner so i was not away from my family yeah that's what i'm saying how could you be
yeah oh well you know i come from the midwest and i'm very about accountability responsibility
you know, work ethic
and I'm married, you know,
to this kind of Hollywood thing
where it was more important
to be more socially committed.
So I had a little conflict
with the kids that way.
Oh, I see.
More time conscious?
Like, no, it's like,
I'm not going to go to football practice
because there's a birthday party.
Okay.
And I'm like, what?
A birthday party?
You do social before commitment
I do commitment before social
Weddings, I miss funerals, I miss my own
I pushed two of my weddings because of what
Wow
I mean I do I do social first
Do you really?
Yeah social comes before commitment
Oh come on
Oh man I'm a bad dad you right now
You're fucking grounded
Yeah like for example
Oh so you would ground your kid
No I would yeah
I get mad at them.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
Wake up.
Go to football practice.
You're not known to be a partier.
No, I don't really party.
I get all that.
Can I argue that, like, birthday parties are rarer than, like, soccer practice?
They have a birthday every year.
Well, but there's soccer practice every week?
Yeah.
Every day.
Come on.
Okay, every day.
Yeah, every day.
Yeah, but it's developing a skill.
I guess birthday parties.
is developing a blowing up balloon skill.
Discipline.
I think like discipline,
especially growing up in the past.
There's no way you had discipline.
There's no way there.
Look at this face.
Of discipline.
I am discipline.
You represent the word.
Oh, do you know how many times I've tried,
I want to say bad words right now?
Oh, really?
Yeah, and I'm just disciplining it down.
No, you have discipline.
You have, even if it's football practice,
you're not going to be a football start.
What were you doing in football?
Were you one of the polls?
What were you doing in fucking football?
I was teaching the quarterback
how to play harmonica.
It was, no, skateboarding.
And it was everyday skateboarding.
And it was no parties.
It was, you got to go film.
You are.
You got to go film.
And you're working that skill.
You're working that, crap, that edging, all that.
Isn't that the joy?
Yeah, for me, yeah.
For me, it was, too.
But when I asked, like, time conscious,
especially when you start in comedy
in this business, even if
it's a girlfriend or, you know,
God forbid, a daughter or a son, you have
to kind of choose those things
over that
and it kind of maybe will misaline
how you were brought up, right?
Well, no, like I said, I was there.
He was there, I attacking you, Jim.
He said you're a bad father.
I didn't say that at all, man.
I say I was a bad father because
I was, I worked up.
Oh, that's Mark.
Oh, guys.
Being held by a black man.
I was tough.
I was tough on the kids.
Yeah.
So back in the 70s when you were like in early days,
you did party a lot.
Yeah, of course.
The 70s was it.
Yeah, because I have an argument with comics.
I go, if we were big in the 70s,
I believe that it would be,
we would get more, we'd hook up with,
it was a sexual revolution.
Yeah.
Right?
Don't you think it was easier to hook up with?
people and this and that or was it was it not it was it was it was it was not it was the age thing
happened oh yeah they fucked everything up man they got very scared god damn everybody got
very scared yeah yeah but yeah it was a wild time there's a lot of coke around yeah yeah
drinking there was parties all night there was sunset boulevard was wild i mean you know john
was like the the king of it you know yeah yeah yeah i don't because you probably get asked
about it a lot uh about your brother i try not to you know we've talked about it on
set before, because I've asked you some questions, but
what a lot. I mean, do you
miss your brother? I mean, obviously you do
immensely.
Do I miss... Do you think about him?
You know what John's missed?
He's missed some really great
movies. He's missed my children.
He's missed everything.
That's what he's missed.
Yeah. Do I miss it? Yeah.
I don't know any different.
Yeah.
But, okay, so that was, that's
the question.
I think I did what you told me not to do
You lowered your voice
I lowered my voice
Oh my fuck god
Let me do it again
Alright so let me tell you what Arnold said for me to say
When I get asked that question
Oh my God
Be more comedic
Play the piano next time
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
Okay
He said
He goes
Jim what's the toughest question you get
I said I hated one
The interviewers lower their voice
I go, do you miss John?
He goes, okay, ask me that question.
I said, okay, because we were promoting Red Heat at the time.
I said, do you miss John?
And Arnold go, do I miss John?
Do I miss John?
You know what John is missing?
One of the best action sequences made in the movie.
There is a scene at the end of Red Heat
that John would have loved.
It's a big...
That's good.
Yeah, that's good.
So I just did that to you.
Did that?
I said, what did he miss?
Yeah, that was so good.
Wow.
Wow.
Great redirect.
Red Heat.
Wow.
Yeah, he's all about redirect.
Did he hard?
He seems like he's so easy to work with.
He's lovely.
Yeah, yeah.
He's one of the greatest men that I've known in my life.
Oh, wow.
You still talk?
Oh, yeah.
We talk once in a while.
I don't like to bother people.
Yeah.
I have the same thing.
You know, I don't want to bother it.
Yeah.
Even Danny Ackroyd, who's like,
Like my best friend, I wait for him to call.
I don't want to bug him, you know.
Oh, but you don't know, that, you know what?
That sucks.
I kind of, but I was like that with John to do it, everybody was bothering him,
and I was like, I'm going to be the one that doesn't bother him.
And I kind of cheated myself out of a relationship because of that.
With him?
Yeah, because I, everybody was trying to, you know, grab at him.
That kind of fame doesn't happen anymore.
Well, I'm talking about family, too.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They were just like, so as a family, I said, okay, I guess.
I know how busy are.
Oh, probably cousins coming out of nowhere going out of nowhere.
I need money.
I've had cousins call me.
I haven't talked to you in fucking 30 years.
Yeah.
I need some money.
Do you give it the rule?
I have a rule.
2000?
No, not that much.
No, no, I have a rule.
I have more than that before.
Really?
Yeah, but my...
He invested in a company before.
Yeah.
Oh, is this the inventor cousin?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, no.
I want to hear the new one.
Yeah, yeah.
I did five.
on that one.
So I have a rule
I'll do it one time.
And then, so I gave
a family member 10 grand
for this business.
And then years later he goes,
you know, I need another.
And at that point, I go, check it out.
You can
keep the 10 I gave you. It's not a loan.
It's a gift. But I'm not giving
you another dime.
Yeah, my thing is
what do you think of that here's
I think that's great
everyone in the room Mark what do you like
don't ask me again I go here it is
I don't have to pay me back
just don't ask me again
yeah yeah that's like
that's a big gift
yeah it is
that's a big gift
I would never be able to ask anyone
for that money
yeah I would make them come in
and present kind of like
Shark Tank
yeah yeah
a whole presentation
yeah yeah
hello Bobby
but when there's when they're desperate
I know but when there's
desperation in the voice
I know, but that makes it so much more fun.
Because then you can...
Oh my God, but I'm going to fuck you.
How much do you need?
You really need it.
No, you little bitch.
You didn't come to my high school place, bitch.
Yeah, yeah, that kind of thing.
So you do loan...
Same rule that you have probably.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Give a little one and say, don't do it again.
Don't do it again, yeah.
Unless it's like really close family member.
a la la my mom
I find
I find when you help people
that they eventually resent you
why
yeah explain
I can agree to that
yeah I think
well
why
because
the Asians are confused
the white guys
yeah
white guys know about
lending money
let me tell you
yeah
explain it Mark
I think there's
there's a lot of
like you
said whether it's a loan or it's a gift there's lack of communication and if let's say i mean i've lent
people money i've lent comics around here money and i can see within like the first couple months
to me i knew it wasn't alone it was just like hey you need this yeah here you pay back whatever
whatever but i could see it on their faces maybe that in that middle meantime oh he's thinking
about the money oh he's just around here because he wants to collect on his money so there's this
of communication.
Yeah, yeah, that kind of helps.
Also, sometimes they believe that you give it to them
because you don't believe they can do it for themselves.
And so that they start.
Oh, there's a lot of layers to get.
Yeah, there is.
Believe me, I've lost some deep friendships
because of $1,000 one time.
So why not just don't ever do that?
Like no money exchanging?
when you're not autistic it's hard to not have feelings you know and just look
what wait wait what he's trying to say you're autistic and have no no no no no no no no
no i got help i got helped a few times my brother helped me uh i had a teacher helped me one
time i used to run out of money i used to you paid every two weeks at school yeah and it would
last one week. And then the second week I had no money and this teacher would lend me,
you know, 20 bucks. And it would get me through that week and I'd get paid and I'd pay him
the money, but I would still be out that next week. But he helped me. So I, and I was really
grateful for it. I didn't resent him. I was like, and so I kind of want to pass that.
I owe Carlos Mincia thousands of dollars. Wow. Thousands over the years.
I can't pay rent or my lights are out
because back then I was struggling hard
yeah so that you know comics it's easier to do
comics you know I mean
I've had people betray me
I've had I've loaned people money
and then they talk shit beyond my back
That's where the resentment comes
Yeah yeah I've had that happen
Fuck that's crazy
Yeah I had a dude like talk mad shit like
Tell a promoter
Yeah if you use him
You know I mean
I will never work with you again
And then the promoter will call me
You can't believe that so-and-so said
I just give him a grand
Like real betrayal in that way
It's a sticky area
It's a sticky area, yeah yeah
Can you tell when someone's gonna do that
Like resent you
They're the type of person, you know?
Sometimes no
Because how close are you
How close do you know somebody?
People especially early on in comedy
people hide sides of their personality very well very well and for a very long period of time
and then once fame and fortune happens they leak yeah my god and then you're like oh shit you're a monster
yeah you can you can kind of tell like when i i lent someone money recently and and after like a month
it was kind of awkward with us kind of being in the same room and i had to i wanted to kind of get it out in
the open and be like listen i'm not here because of that i'm also not thinking about it at all
I just want us to be cool.
Yeah, yeah.
You pay me back, it's fine.
Don't pay me back.
It don't matter.
Why don't you just pay me back
so we can be cool again?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, why can we be direct?
You're the one is being uncool, man.
Yeah, yeah.
At least you can make it happen.
Give me 20 bucks once in a while.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on, man, I'm sick of being this liberal good guy.
I want to be bad dad.
But, you know, as the lender sometimes,
I do hear the other side of them
getting resentful of the person that asked for money
when they see them buy things
that are not necessary.
Oh, boom, boom, boom, okay.
Yeah, when you're like, they post.
Oh, so basically, like, let's say you're rich, I'm poor.
Yeah, and I just haven't eaten
and I got to pay my electrical bills.
Okay, here's some money.
And then two days later, I'm posting like new fits.
Yeah, or like, Instagram.
Or like you're, yeah, out drinking or something.
Oh.
Or like you got some new, like,
a new hat.
That's happened to me many times.
Yeah.
Really?
I've seen that happen and I'm like,
I thought you needed the money to live
and you're putting a sauna in your backyard.
It's so sad.
I'd have all the Stardue Valley
DLC all of this stuff.
Don't make fun of that, please.
Don't speak ill of Stardue Valley.
Yeah.
So Chicago's where
that's your hood.
I've been hanging there more.
Yeah, yeah, I've been hanging there more.
There in Oregon, I had the farm up in Oregon.
Yeah, and then I got a place Martha's Vineyard and I go to in the summers.
Wow.
Oh.
Do you have, do you ever go to Gibson's Steakhouse?
Yeah, I was just there.
No.
I was just there like three, four days ago.
Do you know about Gibson's Steakhouse?
Where's that out?
That's Chicago.
Chicago?
Yeah.
It's amazing?
Yeah, no.
It's not just amazing.
It's just a cool place.
It's a cool old place.
You're going to really like that.
I haven't been there in a while.
My mom grew up in.
Cicero and Oak Park and my family in St. Charles, but I was just Portillo's.
That's all I knew. That's all I knew. Yeah. But Gibson's Steakhouse has a carrot cake.
Oh, yeah. Can you Google the carrot cake? I had it. It's.
Gibson's. Oh, it's, it's gigantic. Yeah. That's a great area, too, right there in a
triangle, because across the street's place called Carmines, it's coming. It's great food there, too.
What kind of food is a Carmines? Italian. It sounds like it, yeah.
Relax, dude.
It's a typo.
It is a typhus.
But, you know,
Guy Fietti is a friend of mine.
Guy Furi?
Fieti.
Uh-oh.
You know.
You got to say it right.
Says it like that.
Wait.
Wait, it's Fieri?
Fieri.
Detti.
Fieri.
Detti.
Guy Fieri.
Yeah.
Super cool, dude.
Anyway, I asked him, you know,
what is your favorite city for food?
Chicago.
Whoa.
I came right out of his mouth.
I went not in New Orleans.
not New York, goes Chicago.
Wow.
He goes, they have everything there.
It's beautiful cuisine.
Buddy of mine, R.J. Melman
has let us entertain you.
He has like 60 restaurants there, and they're all awesome.
That's one character.
Oh, my, Ed Gibson's.
It's insane.
It's absolutely insane.
It's huge.
Is it $50?
That place is pretty kind of a pricey, right?
Is it a challenge?
Yeah.
A carrot cake challenge?
Do you get it?
anything if you eat the whole thing.
Yeah, it's amazing. And the steaks
are top of the line. Come to Gibson's.
Try our care cake muck bang.
Yeah, yeah.
Guy Fierry. Fierty.
Fieri.
Guy Ferry. Fierry.
I used to say Fierry.
I've met him. I've talked to him before.
I don't understand a word he's saying ever.
Every time I meet him, it's in a loud place.
He was going, hey man, we're going to
French toads.
French toads.
French toes.
Side of a lollole.
You're like, okay.
You're not going to understand.
And his hair is crazy.
Crazy.
Yeah, like, what are you fucking in Blade Runner?
Does look very Blade Runner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like Rutkerhauer and Blade Runner.
Great movie, by the way.
Yeah, I just rewatched it.
You're also a film guy, and we've talked about film before.
what's your top
oh yeah you
I recommended you
oh my god
how many movies
did I recommend you
about five
all Korean movies
awesome
they're the best
they're the best
they're so good
oh my god
the comedy was really good
I never heard of that one
the western
oh no no
I know which one
Kung Fu hustle
that's not Korean
Chinese but
is that Chinese
classic
It's a classic movie
You recommended that
I didn't recommend that
And then I'm trained
to Bouchon
Yeah yeah
The zombie movie
Yeah, yeah.
That's great.
What was the...
Old boy?
No, old boy.
It was great.
Great.
Good.
I don't know what you guys think about
Squid games.
Love it.
Love him.
I fucking love it.
Love it.
That lead guy is killer.
He really acts of his ass off the season.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a great show.
That was really good.
Yeah.
In fact, Korean production, it's just, it's, I don't know.
It's cool.
It's, yeah.
They get an all.
man they get how to shoot yeah they get how to edit and they act and the storylines are just like
I mean crazy really go creative the big the thing that like the bigger picture that it tells which I think
is very similar in all Korean films is that there is no like in American films if you get revenge
you're the good guy any movie the the best part you know you get that revenge you win but in any Korean
movie if you get revenge you lose right that's that's kind of every Korean movie tells
which is a great morality really yeah and I also think that they do a great job of
blending like in the movie the host great you think it's a slapstick but then it's a horror
but then it's like a thriller yeah it's a but you never it's never like you're never
taking out of it yeah story they just do a great job they do I mean it's very Asian to be like
oh, you want something, you should have
never wanted something.
You know?
Yeah.
And we didn't, I didn't grow up with that.
Do not want anything.
That's so it.
It's very Asian.
But in America, it's like,
you want something?
That's great.
You should get it.
Go get it.
Usually remakes are bad, right?
Yeah.
I didn't see the remake.
I didn't see it either.
I saw a naked gun.
That was pretty funny.
Was it?
Yeah, it was pretty funny, man.
I heard.
I heard, he was a great job.
It was so straight.
He was really good.
Yeah.
I have a friend, he's a very big comedian.
His argument is, would Steve Martin or somebody a real comedian?
No, no, no, no.
Good choice.
It was a good choice.
It was a good choice.
And gags, you know, for us?
Yeah, we love gags.
Oh, my God.
They got some great gags.
Gag, gag, gag, gag.
I'm literally in a movie theater.
I'm going, good gag.
Great gag.
Why is that guy playing the harmonica?
Every time there's a gag, yeah.
Were there times
we were like bad gag?
That was all right.
Yeah, it was all right, yeah.
That was all right, but a lot of good gags.
Yeah, yeah.
That's fun.
But, I mean, you do have to admit
that these IPs that people have
and they're remaking the same thing
over and over again.
I mean, it does get annoying, no?
I mean, how many Ghostbusters,
Jurassic, how many times are you going to go back
to that island?
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
There's always an excuse.
used to go to that island.
There's, you know what I mean?
My daughter's missing or
you know what I mean? There's doing genetic
experiments or we need to get this, you know what I mean?
Oh, this dinosaur stuck in
tree. Yeah, yeah.
That's not a movie.
Old T-Rex.
Also, the dinosaurs aren't on an
island. Dinosaurs doesn't scary anymore.
You know how you make it scary
on that? You put on that
island? On that
Epstein.
How scary would that?
That's so funny. That's a great
Jurassic Park fans.
Good gag.
Good gag.
Good gag.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, all of a sudden
the end of the movie,
you're like, oh my God,
they're on this island.
Yeah, yeah.
And all the like,
teenage T-Rexes
are like running from him.
And the old guy's actually Epstein.
Yeah.
You don't do,
you don't have a podcast, right?
No.
You never want one to do one?
Never thought of it.
Oh.
Wow.
It would be great.
I don't.
Yeah.
It might be fun.
What,
do you have like other
I mean, obviously the harmonica, but other than acting, how do you satisfy that creative?
Oh, I'm real lucky. I have an improv group.
Oh, that's right. You do, yeah. We hit the road and have a ball. Just have a ball.
I have the Blues Brothers. So you go out, it's like doing a one-night Broadway musical, you know, just 12 people and just horns, four horns, a B-3 organ, two get,
Starbley's singers. It's like a show, you know?
Yeah. Yeah.
And I did that. And then also I do, uh, wow.
I'm in, uh, that's Larry Joe Campbell, who was in a recording to him.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Is that Dean Kane? What's going up there?
Dean Kay.
That was me, my.
Oh, that's you.
Okay.
I like that you're all dressed the same.
Yeah.
Well, this is, we play, uh, uh, the three tenors.
Oh.
So that was us being the three tenors.
No, but do you play?
Improved games up to that?
Yeah.
We're going to do a freeze.
No, not freeze, but we do other games.
A little more sophisticated.
Oh, all right.
Whoa, all right, relax.
Bobby's like, wait.
Stop, stop.
Stop, stop.
Like long form improv.
Not that sophisticated.
But do you do stuff like, I mean, I've rarely been to a show.
We do take that back.
You know what that one is?
No.
Wait, ring a bell after you say something.
Yeah, so explain, because you have to explain the crowd what it is, right?
Here, here, do a scene with him
He'll
Explain to me, take that back
And then me, us four will be
You're so nervous
Can four people you do it?
Yeah.
Okay, explain to us
Yeah
We're the audience, explain it
You'll just see it, he'll just start talking about.
As soon as you hear the bell,
whatever you just said,
you have to take it back
And say something else.
Quickly.
Oh.
Like, my name is Jim.
Ding.
Ding.
My name is Bill.
Ding.
I've never been named.
Ding.
That's fun.
Oh, I see.
My mother here.
Okay.
And then we continue.
I like that.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So nervous.
Why are you so nervous?
I'm sweating too.
I'm like, I'm like, I hope you're so nervous.
Is it a sad standoff?
I don't do improv.
I've never done it.
I got to do tapping.
Lots of gags, though.
Lots of gags.
Okay.
So do we go one at a time?
No, I think it's a scene.
Yeah.
I think it's a scene.
So Bobby, you ask the audience for a suggestion of a place that can fit on the stage.
Where's your bell?
Can we get a suggestion?
Just go dang on your side.
I'll say.
I'll say ding.
Do it now while they're talking.
Just talk.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
What do you mean?
I thought the audience suggested something.
Ding.
Movie night.
It's a movie night.
Okay.
They dinged you.
Oh, I thought the animals...
Can the everyone go get some coffee again?
Dink.
I thought the pastures accept something.
Is that how the game's play?
Just be in the scenes.
Stay in the scene.
Let's start over.
Now I get it.
So much worth it.
Wait.
Wait, wait.
Wait, stop over.
I got it.
Okay.
Okay, start over.
All right to go.
You guys are all in a movie theater.
Five, three.
Action.
God, I hate black and white movies.
You know what?
I like black and white movies, but I don't like the subtitles.
Ding.
You can't, you can't.
You can't, you're in the scene?
He digs it.
Okay, sorry, sorry.
You're next?
Yeah, I mean, this movie is good, no?
This movie's all right.
Ding.
This movie sucks.
Ding.
This movie is like, it's pretty life-changing.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know.
Is it my turn?
Anybody can talk
Honestly, watching stand-ups as an improviser is crazy
Wait, I forgot what movie is this?
He improvised in the last movie
We were ripping it.
I just don't know the rules of the game
I'm confused behind the...
We're at a movie theater.
Ding.
We are at the bathroom of the movie theater.
That was too slow, baby.
I'm sorry.
You get kicked off.
You get kicked off.
Oh, you get kicked off?
Gone, bye, bye, bye.
All right, you three.
Oh, give us another game.
That was the easiest.
Now I want to win.
There's three of us left.
I didn't know there was winning.
Oh, no, but there is a loser.
I like it.
Damn.
Got slammed.
Let's try it.
Let's try it one more time.
Ding.
We're going to exercise one more time.
Ding.
We're going to meditate for one more time.
I've never done meditation before.
I love meditation.
Really?
I love meditation.
Well, it's the.
breathing. And when you breathe
and you focus on the breathing,
it takes you out of everything else.
It takes you to places
you've never been before. Ding.
It takes you to Peru and machis where you're doing
ayahuasca. I had the best tea in Peru.
Ding. I had the best elephant dung in Peru.
Really? I've tried elephant dung before.
It's great tea. That does make great tea.
It's a little thick though. It's a little
thin. Ding. It's soupy.
Ding. It's kind of like hard but
soft at the same time. It's gay.
I'm gay.
And I know you just came
out. Yeah. I know you just came, but
we've known all along that you were gay. Well, I
do carry around elephant dong in my
back pocket. And a harmonica
in your car. Mm-hmm.
Yes, but that's strictly
for straight dude. Wait, I thought you guys
were all gay. You're out of the gay? Well, I thought
you were out of the scene.
I thought you were out of the scene.
Jesus.
Okay, I kind of understand now that game.
You kind of understand that?
That's the only...
Is there another game?
You should have them on the road
and do one special guest.
There's no way.
You can do the intro to the show.
Hey, welcome to, you know.
The laugh.
Actually, when I do the show,
I could never do stand-up.
I never had the balls.
You've never tried it?
Well, you know, in college,
a thing called after dinner speaking
and was kind of a
it was a nine minute, eight, nine minute
routine. And I took nationals with
that I did very well. That's the closest I came
to stand up but I've really, I've been doing
the acting thing so long to actually be
straight to the audience. It's very difficult
for me. But when I started this crew
I started with my son Robert
they wanted me to do the intro
and warm up the audience a little bit.
So I did like three minutes, four
minutes, five minutes. Now I can sit up there
for 20 minutes doing kind of crowd work.
Well, that's what it is.
Yeah, it's fun. It's fun.
I got pretty good at it.
Yeah.
So now I feel confident as myself
in front of an audience.
Have you ever written a joke
and I'm going to squeeze it in there?
Yes.
Yeah, that's stand-up.
Yeah.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
You know what I do?
When I go to that town,
I read their local papers.
Yeah, that's...
Yeah.
Fun.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, and you find out what's going on
in the town and you bring it up.
Yeah.
What's up with the...
Your football team, you know, mascot.
Yeah.
Ding.
What's up with your
football team
football?
What's up with your
football team's coach?
Yeah, he did get...
You're off the state.
You gotta hide in it
and then maybe find it out.
Hide it.
You go one, two, three.
How do you know so much about the game?
He's from Second City.
Oh.
He's from Second City, Chicago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cheers.
Yeah.
Oh, what company did you?
You didn't rise far.
BISCO.
What?
Bizcoe in Chicago?
Biscoe.
Kelly?
Kelly run on that, yeah.
What is it?
Tell me about Bisco.
It's the one where you don't tour,
but you just go to corporate events
and you do corporate shows.
Oh, Baird, corporation.
Like boom Chicago in Amsterdam?
Like cruise ship comedy for stand-up comics almost.
Oh, no, they did cruise ships for a while.
Yeah.
Wow.
That sounds like a not fun.
Have you ever done stand?
Has he asked you to stand-up?
Have you ever done stand-up?
He did with me.
I've never done improv either.
He did with me and Karate ghost.
He does it every night when he goes up.
Yeah, yeah.
I can improve improv in a scene.
It's just in front of with game.
I've never done it.
You know what I mean?
It took a real while.
Yeah.
Like freeze tag.
Freeze, you tap them and then you go in the position.
Yeah, we used to close our show.
And then you do a different thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We used to close the show at Second City with that.
Like, I know the rules of improv.
Like, Cliff, happy birthday, man.
You thought you something.
Wow.
Nice.
Wow.
Is that real proof or is that plastic?
Oh, I love plastic.
I know those rules.
What rule did you show?
What rule did you show us?
I always agree.
I was going to agree with you.
Yeah, and I go, yes.
What are you talking about?
I was in private.
Off, you're off, you're off.
I'm not off.
Ding.
Off, shit.
How are you the judge?
I did a ride.
Ding.
Yeah, I did it right.
I did it right.
I did it right.
You're still off stage.
What are you even back on stage?
Wow.
So do you do theaters or like what do you do?
Do you do comedy clubs or?
Yeah, we do comedy clubs.
We do performing arts centers all across country.
Yeah, that must be fun.
Oh, it's fun, man.
I mean, there's this place with Warsaw, Wisconsin.
Oh.
One of the most beautiful theaters.
is a grand theater.
She's like 2,000 people.
We've been there three times sold out each time.
Wow.
It's so wonderful to play.
Wow.
They get the jokes.
Meet and greet afterwards?
Yes, that's the gig.
Yeah.
Do you have, like, fans that have been coming for a long time that you kind of look out for,
and you're like, I hope they don't show up this time?
No.
No, we're scattered so far from Virginia Beach to Connecticut.
You know.
Yeah.
Well, that sounds so fucking fun.
Yeah.
I have a ball.
And then you're still doing a lot of, like, movies.
I did four movies this year.
Wow.
And I did two of them with you.
50 of my career this year.
Well, I did.
A lot of time together.
Well, sorry.
I apologize.
But karate ghost.
Yeah.
Yeah. Karate Ghost was, I don't know, I mean.
Like, they go, you want to do karate ghost?
And they go, Belushi's in it.
And I go, okay.
Yeah, I was so happy.
Yeah.
That's the.
It's probably really the only reason to do it.
But then Steve Howie's in it now.
Yeah.
A bunch of people are in it.
And you know what?
It's funny.
Not just funny.
You know what?
I saw when we would see some of the footage and it looked good.
I'm telling you this guy, I did it because of James, the director and writer.
Because I did another movie one time.
He did me a favor to make health insurance, right?
and I did one day and he paid me a lot of money
and I don't know whatever happened to the movie
but then he came back and said
this is the movie I've been working out for 10 years
that really want you to be part of it
and I said whatever you want James
yeah and I read the script
and it was cute
it's a family movie
family movie yeah sweet yeah it's super
are you guys doing
but I did two others
you have one coming out right
okay tell us about it
that's why you're here
All right, we get it, we get it
You're here promoting
I'm like waiting
He's gonna set this fucking thing
I'm gonna ding you, ding
So tell us about the movie
I did one movie
I did one movie with
Hugh Jackman
And Kate Hudson
Wow
And it's based on a documentary
in 2008 of a
Neil Diamond tribute band in Milwaukee.
Wow.
Yeah, it was really good.
Yeah.
And it's a Neil Diamond movie.
He plays this Neil Diamond impersonator.
So that's, that really...
Hugh Jackman does.
Oh, he's so good.
King, that sounds interesting.
Oh, yeah.
I think Kate gives a performance of her life in this.
I know, I know Kate.
And I love Kate.
She, uh, they tested so well that Universal said we're opening Christmas Day.
Wow.
Very big deal.
Look at that.
Dude, that looks like him a little bit.
It does, yeah.
That's incredible.
What do you play, like a manager?
Yeah, exactly.
I play the manager, books him, you know.
Wow.
How many days did you do on that one?
I was there for the whole shoot, but, you know, I didn't work every day.
Where do you guys shoot?
What town?
Everything in Jersey.
Wow.
Yeah, great.
That must have been so fun.
Tax credits, yeah.
Yeah, and what's another one?
I did another movie called, I don't know if anyone will see it because it's really a deep, dark, beautiful
film taken from a book called
Chronology of Water, which
Kristen Stewart adapted
and directed.
Wow. Wait, Kristen Stewart
directed you? Yeah. Twilight.
Wow. Yeah. I know.
I know Twilight.
I just watched it, yeah.
She's terrific.
Oh, she is, yeah. Oh, my gosh. What a great
director she turned out to be. Oh, yeah.
Really good for you. Oh, my God.
It did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so
it is coming out then.
Yeah, they just found a distributor and
I think it's coming out in mid-October.
It went to Cairns?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, then everyone's going to see it.
Why are you upset?
No, I'm just saying.
He was like, it's going to, you know.
It's one of the most beautiful films and stories.
She just nailed it.
Well, who, so, uh...
I play Ken Keezy.
Ken Keeze.
Wow.
Wow.
Well, so then you're killing it.
That one was, this one was special movie.
But aren't you killing it?
Nora Birch is in it.
She does great.
Aren't you killing it?
Yeah, I'm having a good time, man.
Yeah.
I'm having a good time.
I get to travel.
I get to sing.
I get the dance.
I get to be fun.
I mean, these are great projects.
Very dramatic role, this one.
Yeah.
These two are very different from karate ghosts.
A little bit.
It's just very different.
You know what, dude?
I can't wait for karate ghost to be a hit.
It's going to sneak up and just nail everybody.
I think so cute.
Yeah.
I love the name.
Yeah.
Okay.
You're back on stage.
I mean, because you've had, I mean, bro, what a career then.
Oh, I've done a lot of stuff, man.
Yeah, you're also, I remember during gutter muckers, there was one long day we had,
and you have such patience.
Did I have patience that day?
No, I think you said in a very healthy way, hey, guys, what the fuck is going on?
Or, like, because we were all kind of feeling it.
Like, what is going on here?
Yeah.
We had no idea what was going on.
You know what I mean?
And it's also, it's not one of those productions where you have a trailer.
So you're just out.
Yeah.
I'm like sitting on a log and smoking a cigarette for like three hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I stepped up that day.
Yeah, you stepped up.
So set your shots.
Yeah.
Fix your shots.
Get what you want.
Then call us in.
We'll adjust.
Yeah.
With these two guys.
are the best.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're the best.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, there's me on Guidermockers.
Leslie.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was fun.
It was Eleanor Kerrigan's first movie.
Wow.
Whoa.
Yeah, she's so sweet.
I know, she's so nice.
Yeah, what a, what a blessing.
Yeah.
So what are the two movies again?
The one with the chronology of water.
Right.
Kristen Stewart.
And the other one is, let me.
It's called Song Sung, Sung, Blue.
Song, sung, blue.
That's what a Neil Diamond.
Neil Diamond.
Those are both.
Song, song, blue, da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah, yeah.
And, uh, coming to America.
That's him, right?
Oh, no.
Yeah, it is.
I think so.
What do you mean?
I didn't sing it right?
I don't think so.
And I know what I'm going to do.
Come into America.
No.
That's not him?
That's not, you're not singing it right.
No, no, no.
But you know what I'm saying.
I kind of do.
What do you mean?
You know the song I'm saying?
No.
Yeah.
We're coming to America.
Okay.
Zoom in.
I don't know.
They're coming to America.
Yeah, everywhere around the world.
Everyone around the world, they're coming to America.
Every time the flags unfurled.
I mean, I'm saying it right.
I think so.
I mean, I like it.
Play it then.
I'm going to show you.
I like how it goes.
The way I'm doing it?
Yeah.
Wait.
do the harmonica with you on that.
Yeah, maybe the harmonia.
Songs, song.
Every man around the world.
Okay, anyway.
The movie's not called
coming to America.
Called song, song, blue.
I know, but I was trying to go,
do I know any Neil Diamond songs?
Come on.
And then I sang the one that I know
and everyone's like, no, that's what it.
It's that it embarrassed me.
That's fucked up, I believe.
You know?
So are you going to, are you still,
now, there's rest of it.
After the, like after this pod, you have a busy year?
Yeah.
Always, always busy, man.
Yeah, I keep busy, but I keep a lot of times of myself, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like Chicago a lot.
Alone on a lake.
Being mindful.
How about your environment?
Two blocks from the old second city.
It's like my old hood there in Chicago.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Gibson's.
Right there, walking just eight minutes.
Yeah.
I've timed everything.
You've timed everything.
Yeah, yeah.
And you're single now.
Yes.
That's good.
You think you'll get married again?
I don't know if I have room in my heart for it.
Oh.
No.
I don't know.
Wait, what does that mean?
What does that mean?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think I gave it all out with three marriages and three kids.
I feel stronger.
Three marriages.
Like is your heart, does it feel full or tired?
being
Go quick quick
Ask another question
Are you happy?
Yeah there you go
I'm happy
Why can't you meet somebody
And just not get married
And just hang out with them
For the rest of your life
Yeah I like that
I mean don't you think that's the best of
Why this marriage thing
Yeah I think I agree with you
Yeah
I have never been married
Yeah that's cool
Because I have to be convinced to the phone.
You know, when you have children, it's a different kind of thing, you know.
Oh, right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you, Mark ever been married?
No.
Yeah, yeah.
No.
How old are you now?
38.
Yeah.
Yeah, it should be there, but it's not.
Yeah, Jim, this guy.
It's hard.
These two right here in terms of stand-up, they're incredible.
Oh, I can't wait to see it.
Thank you, Bobby.
They're in fucking credible.
Yeah, they're like the next.
like stars.
Oh, I can't wait to see him, man.
I'll keep my eye out.
Thank you, Jim.
Yeah.
Jim, you want anything to say anything else?
Did you have fun, by the way?
I love being with you.
I love you, too.
I like you too.
Let's do.
I like it a lot.
Let's do two more movies.
Because I don't die in it.
I remember.
And then, yeah, I mean, I always
if anyone called and go,
Belushi's in it, I'll go in.
Same thing.
I was like, so.
That's awesome.
By the way, I got excited
when I got the email
invited me on the show.
I got all giggly.
I was like, oh, that's so cute.
How did that happen?
You guys reached out?
I think we've been waiting
since you talked about him
on gutter muckers.
Like we've been wanting to just waiting
for Jim to be in town.
Oh, yeah, yeah, great.
Yeah, I moved.
I had to move something
to get here for today.
Oh, well, what did you do?
I didn't do bad for being jet lagged, right?
Amazing.
Kill them.
What you're talking about?
Yeah, yeah.
There we go.
There we go.
Play piano with him.
Let's finish out.
E minor? Can I do E minor or E major?
Okay. Can I hear it in here?
Can I hear it? I can hear it, but
You're the man
You're the man
Okay, anyway, Jim Belike, everyone.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man, that was so good.
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