TigerBelly - Jim Belushi & The Karate Ghost

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

JimJim Belushi joins the gang and gets bluesy with Bobby. We chat Karate Ghosts, SNL memories, According to Jim, Losing friends, Blues Brothers, Ding Game chaos, bombing at Improv,... Belushi’s new projects Sing Sung Blue and Chronology of Water. Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/BELLY and use code BELLY and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup!  Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/p06g4a8g #CashAppPod  As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey y'all. I'm going to be in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, October 10th and 11th at the Milwaukee Improv. I've never been there before. Check it out. And also I'm going to be in Portland, Oregon for one night. I'm going to be at the Spirit Mountain Casino, November 8th. Jukumbollah she is here, I cannot believe it. Whoa! Whoa! Oh! Are you an E?
Starting point is 00:00:57 What, you want E minor? Just E. I'll go E. I'm doing E right now. Whoa. All right. Just had that all. You guys, I, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Always carry a harmonica. Like, really? Every white guy carries around a harmonic. You have one, dude? Yes, I have one in my glove. Okay, okay, all right. Got to be in your pocket. Well, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm trying to like break free of the whiteness. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you can't really break free truly. Yeah. That's what my grandfather used to say. Yeah. You cannot break free for truly. Especially white.
Starting point is 00:01:38 That's what you say. So we got some people in the room. Mark, have you done this pod before? No, I have, but in Hawaii. It was like the travel pod. You guys gave me a call because someone flaked out, so I filled in.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Oh, right. Well, welcome back. It was good to be scheduled. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, welcome back, Mark. Thank you. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:01:57 We have Andrea Jin here. She's a Korean. A Chinese comic. Chinese. Yeah. There's no Korean whatsoever. Yeah. Maybe a little.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Sorry to hear that. Yeah. But anyway, guys, but that's not about you guys. Yes. And that's the truth. The truth is about this young man I have to my left. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It's about me. What I was wondering when you were going to get to me. Yeah. Jim Belushi, living legend. Do you hate when people call you a legend? Yeah, it freaks me out. Yeah, call up. Jim, get Jim Belushi legend.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Legend. All right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that puts me into a different category. No, but we grew up watching you, dude. I know. You live in the moment every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:40 You forget about that. Next year will be 50 years for me to show us. Oh, my God. Wow. The ups and downs? Oh, yeah, there's a few. Yeah, yeah. Were there sad moments?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Oh, yeah, there were a lot of sad moments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't that part of the fun? Yeah, yeah. But during the sad moments, Woodie. you feel like you go you you plan it out like I'm gonna get myself out of these sad moments and do this this or do you succumb to the sadness oh succumb yeah yeah yeah i'm feeling i'm feeling sad oh i'm gonna milk this shit man yeah what's the matter jimmy oh you really do that i love it but you and i did a
Starting point is 00:03:27 couple of movies last year. This, well, yeah, last year. Yeah, last year and this year we did a movie called Guttermuckers. Oh, God, you were so funny, man. Oh. You are so funny. I got so excited when they cast you in the last one. What was it called? The one, the last one
Starting point is 00:03:45 of Karate Ghost. Karate Ghost. Guntermuckers and karate ghosts. We are right there on the Academy List for this year. When you get it in your email and you get to vote, you'll see, gutter muckers, supporting actor, Bobby Lee, just press yes. Karate is like the Asian harmonica, too, so.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You think so? Yeah, you have an orange. We have it in my pocket as well, yeah. We have Tequendoam, I'm Korean. Sorry. Yeah, I have Tequendo in my pocket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But thanks for that inside, Mark.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You know a lot about Asians. You're from the Bay Area. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do. Have you ever had sexual intercourse with one? Okay, good. Congratulations. Yeah, congratulations. My first blow job was an Asian girl.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Wow. Been chasing it ever since. Wow. Asian guys don't give his good... But, yeah. Yeah. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Have you gotten a blow job from an Asian guy? Not an Asian guy, no. Yeah. No. Have you been bisexual? Yeah. Oh, yeah. White guys are the best.
Starting point is 00:04:49 They practice on harmonica. Oh, yeah. Because if you can suck and blow, you can play harmonica. That's, yeah, that's how it goes Dick is a gateway drug Yeah, wow And everything is about this size Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:06 Do you have to, how long do you have to learn I mean, it seems like a difficult thing to learn Well, you know what to do it properly It is because there's a thing called tongueing Where you use your tongue to block half the hole And when you bend it And I just saw John Mayo at the Auditorium Theater
Starting point is 00:05:27 in Chicago and I was 16. And I got to tell you, I don't know it's a sound system or what, but it was the most incredible sound coming out of this little thing. And I went to a music store and I bought a C-Hormonagia and I just played it in the car.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Wow. And I just learned on my own. So I really have bad habits. Yeah. You were 16. Yeah. Wow. Was your brother John into music as well back then? At 16, he was at Second City. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, he was in the comedy acting. But yeah, he was in the music. Yeah. Did you ever get to see his shows? Oh, yeah. I saw him all. Yeah. Saw him all over and over and over and over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Imagine. Over and over. Oh, yeah. I learned Second City by watching. Watching. Then when I auditioned, I blew him away, you got right now. Of course, yeah. I mean, did you, who was in the show with John when he would perform back then?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Great cast. Joe Flaherty. Love. I know. I'm friends with Good. His daughter, yeah, I know good. Yeah. Joe Flaherty was...
Starting point is 00:06:32 Do you see, you know who Joe Flaherty is? Mm-mm. Do you ever see Happy Gilmore One? Mm-mm. Or Second City TV? Yeah, he was the president of... I wish I had seen all these. Oh, man, that's such great stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:44 It's YouTube. Okay. Harold Ramos. Legend. Oh, wow. Legend. Yeah, Harold Ramos is there. There we are.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Okay, zoom it in, zoom it in. Yeah, there's Harold. Yeah. Okay. There's John. John. Joe. It's Eugenie Ross Lemieux, terrific writer.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. Great photo. Jim Fisher, who was another great, great writer, very funny, man. Yeah. And Judy Morgan, I don't know where she is right now. I know, but that was, that cast right there was the one. Wow. Was Blasucci there yet, or no, Dick Blasucci?
Starting point is 00:07:18 No, Dickie came way after. Yeah. Yeah. I pooed on his desk. You did? Yeah, he did. Oh, that was his desk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Nicky? Yeah, Nikki's desk. Tell me the story about it. I felt bad about it. Did you? I mean, you're going to be that brave. You should be able to good about it. I did it as a joke.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It was a joke, but it was awry. Well, what happened was Ike Baranholz and Nicole Parker were writing something in Dick's office. And there were Alka-Seltzer tablets, you know what I mean, on his desk. Right. Yeah, and I jammed two of them in my butthole. And then I, you know, it felt. phoned like a mad dog What a great kid
Starting point is 00:08:00 Why isn't that in Guttermunker? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It went Right, and then I wanted to shoot them out Yeah. But other things came out as well. And then everyone just died laughing
Starting point is 00:08:12 And then Dick walked in and he goes, clean it up. So that's pretty much the Yeah. Anyway, Anyway, that's story. But so you then then John left
Starting point is 00:08:23 at Second City and then you then you auditioned. Or did you guys perform? Oh, no, he left in, oh, God, when did he leave? He left in 72, maybe. 72, yeah. Went to New York, did Lemmings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 For National Ampoon. Yeah. And he did that famous Joe Cocker. Amazing. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. And he became like a darling of New York. And then he took that show on the road.
Starting point is 00:08:51 He directed it. And he came back and did National Ampoon Radio Hour with all these guys. Wow. Oh, he got, he brought all the second city people in from Billy Murray to Gilda to Danny. Wow. And then they did the Lampoon show, stage show, which was very, very funny. Mm. God damn it, they were funny.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah. And then. Did Belushi ever, your brother ever do it with Chevy Chase or no? He did lemmings with Chevy. Yeah, yeah. Was Chevy easy to work with back to us? Yeah. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Poor, Chevy, you know, that poor guy hurt his back. He's nice to me. He hurt himself for comedy. Oh, yeah, for Pratt Falls. Those falls on the Saturday, that man, he threw himself in 100%. Yeah. He really injured himself. And my understanding is, you know, when you have back troubles, people do opiates to help.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think he's kind of a struggle on and all. I think he's fine now. He's fine, yeah. Yeah. Oh, there they are together. Oh, my God, legends. But on this show, they didn't really.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Danny and John didn't, my understanding. it was, they didn't really care for Chevy. Yeah. Because they were acting their asses off. Yeah. And Chevy was looking right into the camera. Yeah. So he had the American's hearts, really.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Right. Yeah. And John and Danny are like busting their ass with these great imitations. Yeah. But Chevy is the one that's charming the crowd. God, he's so good at that. Yeah. He was so good at that.
Starting point is 00:10:18 He was a good actor, too. And when he was in Lemines, he was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so what was your second city experience like? I had a ball. You did? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I felt the most comfortable on that stage. Yeah. I felt alive. Yeah, I used to go see the Friday, Saturday shows there, amazing shows. Oh, yeah, yeah. We had the best cast. We had a great time. We had great shows.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah. Great writing. I learned everything there. Wow. Yeah. Wow. And then Hollywood. You went Hollywood, man.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Well, Gary Marshall came to Second City and saw a scene I did called White Horse Tavern. Yeah. Which really kind of a bio scene because it was about the time I went to see John in Lemmings. And he took me to the White Horse Tavern. And White Horse Tavern is where
Starting point is 00:11:15 Dylan Thomas drank himself to death. Who's Dylan Thomas? Google it, Google it. Dylan Thomas's great Welsh poet. No, no, no, no, I should, though. Bob Dylan named himself after him. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Oh, see, this guy, that's a good succumber. What do you mean? He's doing succumbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. He was the greatest writer. You knew him. He's handsome. No, I didn't know him.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He died at the White Horse Tavern, and John took me there. And he told me this whole story about how he died. I went back to Second City, and I told the story. Yeah, yeah. How did he die? Or he drank himself? Oh, oh. Piled up 17 shots of whiskey.
Starting point is 00:11:58 But that's what they're supposed to do, right? As like poets and writers. I'm glad. I think that is in the... Yeah, isn't it like... You're supposed to do that as a YouTube star now. Yeah. That's the new poet and writer.
Starting point is 00:12:12 At the beginning of the spring, moonless night than the dumbfounded town, starless and Bible black, slow black, crow black. Oh. Oh, fission. Wow. Fars. That's our Mr. Beast.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Right now. Yeah, wow. Mr. B's same type of whale's poet. My favorite one is, what seas did you sail, old whaler in your fishing days long, long ago? Oh, wow. This is Rosie Probert talked in a captain cat who's blind. Let's come up with one.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He goes, what seas did you sail in your fishing days long, long ago? He goes, seas barking like eels, merman and whales. blue seas and greens. Wait a minute. You could be making it up. The only, here it is, here it. Here it is. Here's the line.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Here's the line. Say whatever. The only seas I saw were the seesaw sees with you writing on it. Oh, wow. That's a, wait. That's beast.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Don't blow the punch line, motherfucker. Okay. All right. The only, I got to go back now. Start over. Start over. The only seas I saw were the seesaw seas. With you riding on it, lie down, lie easy.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Let me shipwreck in your thighs. Wow. Oh, my God. That's... That's... That'll give me pepper spray. If I go to a bar, I go, let me fucking shipwreck. I used to say that line at Second City every night.
Starting point is 00:13:48 What? Wow. On stage? Yeah, we did a... scene about the two brothers at the white horse talking about death. And that's Dylan Thomas? Yeah. Oh, wow. The only sea I saw with the seesaw
Starting point is 00:13:58 sea with you riding on it. Lie down, lie easy. Let me shipwreck in your thighs. Wait, this is what he would write. So, like, it's erotic? Is it always erotic? Oh, well, I mean, his stuff is beautifully erotic, but I wouldn't call it that.
Starting point is 00:14:15 But it's just beautiful works. Yeah. Anyway, that scene was a big scene. Gary Marshall saw me in that scene and then brought me out to Hollywood. Wow. And then what happened? You came here and then... I came here. I did a show with a guy named Larry Breeding, Wonderful Man. With Gary Marshall, we did 13, got canceled.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I went back to City. What was it called? The show. Who's watching the kids? Oh, who's watching the kids? And the answer was nobody. Yeah, yeah. But I had a relationship with Gary Marshall. Then he brought me back and I did another show.
Starting point is 00:14:50 called working stiff with Michael Keaton. Oh wow. Do you guys know Gary Marshall? Mm-mm. No. You don't know Gary Marshall? Who's that? Sorry. I mean, he's Leverna and Shirley? Happy Days? Happy Days? You heard of those? I know happy days. Yeah. Oh, he's funny. Yeah. Do he did it according to Jim? He did according to Jim. Yeah, he's a legend.
Starting point is 00:15:12 He's a legend. You too, though. Why is there a picture of Kathy Bates? He did pretty woman? Yep. He did pretty woman. There was a picture of Kathy Bates. Yeah, he probably did misery. Yeah, this guy's a legend. Oh, yeah, he was wonderful. I heard of misery.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah, okay. I don't know if he did misery, but yeah, yeah. But you've seen pretty women. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was great. You're a great guy. Has he passed?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah, he has passed. Oh. Penny, too. Did he cry? He was very close with Penny. Did you cry? I got a little upset. There's a lot of people dying right now.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I know. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I had a friend die two days ago. Who? Oh, no. Is a famous person? Well, to me, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, well, George went died a few months ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This friend of mine, Rob Riley, was really talented. He wrote on Saturday Night Live with me. He passed a couple of days ago. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Sorry, James. It's all around. It's all around, yeah. It's killing me. Yeah. But guess what? You're alive? I'm alive.
Starting point is 00:16:18 There is. I'm alive A shipwrecked you dies Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah yeah Yeah, that's amazing Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah as you get I assume that's the case As you once you get a little older That's gonna happen to me Like I'll get a call Jor or died Right And I'll be like
Starting point is 00:16:42 Oh no No No Yeah Yeah You'll get a call in a couple weeks About my death So
Starting point is 00:16:48 No You didn't look pale. You should eat more. Yeah, yeah. He, like, looked at me. Wow. So then you went back to Chicago after, who was watching the kids. Yeah, and I did Second City for another year.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Then I went and did working shifts. And then I went and did a play by David Mamet called Sexual Proversity in Chicago. Ooh. He just did one of my podcasts, David Mamet. Oh, he did? Oh, wow, what a brilliant guy. Yeah, he's a brilliant guy, yeah. He's such a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah, yeah. He said some wild things. He's wild. We edited those parts out. He said some wild shit. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, he changed over the years. This particular play, this character, Bernie Licko,
Starting point is 00:17:35 we took that play and we developed it into about last night with your friend Rob Lowe. Oh, wow. Great poster. Great poster. And that, we had to change the title because. The movie couldn't be called Sexual Perversity of Chicago because none of the theaters in the Midwest would put that title on their marquee.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Whoa. Because it looked like a porn thing. So we called it about last night. Oh, that's what changed my career. That's it right there. Wow. And that's you. Yeah, and there's Rob.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah. Demi Moore. Wow. Yeah. That's a movie, right? It's a great movie. Yeah, about last night. Yeah, and it still holds up.
Starting point is 00:18:15 I've got to tell you. Who's the other lady there? Elizabeth Perkins. Very funny. Okay. Very talented actress. That's Demi Rob. What was Rob like back then?
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Starting point is 00:21:56 It's very funny. Very talented actress. That's Demi Rob. What was Rob like back then? Because I know him now. Same. Yeah. A great guy. Great guy. Great hang. We had a bald working together.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah. Absurdily handsome. How did he look so young, like still. I don't know. He's just jeans, baby. That's just, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, no, he was great.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He doesn't look that different. He was, you know what? He used to get shit for being so good looking. And nobody could look past it to see what a fine actor he was. He was really good in this movie. He acted his ass off. Look at West Wing. He kills, you know, how hard those lines are and to deliver it the way he did is,
Starting point is 00:22:42 so difficult. It's technical. It's, you know... Yeah. It's names and... Yeah. Numbers and... All that stuff. Yeah. I'm not good at that. Well, I just passed on something. Oh, tell you to me. Because there's so many names and numbers in it?
Starting point is 00:22:58 John, John, John, John, 4.5, 6th. Exactly what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was... This was the guy. It was, you know, it's an eight-part series. And I come in at the beginning and at the end. And at the beginning, I'm a colonel's drinking coffee and I'm the one telling this guy all the information yeah uh this Russian major
Starting point is 00:23:18 Andre Katsatsatsich I was in the the RCA and the Kiki and then he was in the and it was all numbers and latitudes and I was like yeah and at the end I had to explain everything right I was that guy yeah yeah I don't know man I can't do all those names man not the Russian name yeah
Starting point is 00:23:37 yeah I've turned down roles if the lines are too complex I can't pronounce English I don't me either do I can play your podcast I don't know anything yeah yeah yeah a basic like karate ghost well we did karate ghost
Starting point is 00:23:53 you and nice easy we sat down that one scene on that table right easy piece of cake man this guy paya Kia
Starting point is 00:24:03 Kia ooh oh no no shit man this guy's funny as fucking in that movie, man. You? No, you Oh, fuck on. Not me.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Impossible. I did an Asian accent. We were improvising. Go play each other's harmonicas. Yeah, what? I said, go play each other's harmonica. Yeah, there you go. Well, you know, let me say something, Mark. Yeah. That's rude. Yeah, it is. Because I'll tell you that's right. It's a reflection of how I did gutter muckers, right? We did that
Starting point is 00:24:33 movie. That sounds like a slur, by the way. It's a kid. It'll be on the academy list. Okay. All the way down to cheat. Me, Jim, Leslie Jones. Yeah. That's a good group. Eleanor. Oh, I love Eleanor. That's not the poster. That can't be the poster, right? I thought.
Starting point is 00:24:48 That cannot be the poster. It looks terrible. You look, look, oh, don't get that belly. You look so funny in that. That's the other poster. I hate that. I like that. Oh, this, this reminds me of like animal house. Yeah, I like that. I like that. I like that. And with me down in the middle there. They're in the middle. Yeah. Where am I at in this? The top of the house? Oh, the fact guy, yeah, yeah. Buttermark markers. Yeah. But it was the first time me and Jim met and we
Starting point is 00:25:11 had dinner we stopped dinner there and in my mind I was like oh no this guy you know we have a friendship you know how like sometimes you meet a dude at his status you're like ah nah right but this dude I was like no he's
Starting point is 00:25:27 cool same wavelength yeah no just cool like he's like not affected you know I mean a regular person it's just a fucking working man that's all I'm the blue collar shit I'm a blue-collar guy, man. I was raised in restaurants and shingled houses and painted houses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I'd kick carpet. I did everything for money, man. Yeah. And you still do the Blues Brothers. Yeah, with Danny. With Dan Aykroyd. That's so cool. Did they go on the road?
Starting point is 00:25:57 That's so cool. Yeah, we just had a gig in Chicago at the House of Blues. Wow. That seems tiring. Dan-da-da-da. And you're just, like, constantly dancing. Oh, it's the opposite. Oh, you just stand there?
Starting point is 00:26:11 No. Still, not booth. We do it in a booth. We do it in a booth. You guys both go out there. Oh, yeah. Sing and dance, man. Oh, we have a ball together.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And my daughter, who is now singer, songwriter. She lives in Nashville. She just joined the band. So she's... I know your daughter. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We did crudity goes.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You know, Jamie. Of course. Yeah, we did Cruddy goes together. She was in karate goes through. Oh, she was great. There she is. Look at her. So she's in the band as well.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Yeah, that was sound check. And that's you watching. Great photo. Great photo. That cool. You're so proudly. Wow. Yeah, before the show, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah. That looks so cool. Yeah, it's cool, man, cool. She's really good. What's Dan Aykroyd like? Oh, we sing the 17th and stretch at the Wrigley Field. She's singing the national anthem and then we sing the 17th century. She did the National Anthem at the Wrigley...
Starting point is 00:27:11 Did she bomb or killed it? She killed it. Okay. And then she opened for the Windy City smokeout, 25,000 people in Chicago. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's...
Starting point is 00:27:24 Oh my God. What a cutie, man. I just love that little girl. That's so great, dude. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah. How old is she? She just turned 26.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Wow. There's the national anthem. Wow. and you know what I noticed she just loves you so much when we were on set you know she would get you tea and you know she was like really looking after you yeah yeah yeah yeah her papa have you guys always had a good relationship
Starting point is 00:27:47 oh we fight like cats and dogs yeah that's part of it I guess I don't know you feel like you could have been in her life more growing up no I was okay I'm not a journalist I'm bad dad Jim are you a bad father I am a bad father
Starting point is 00:28:07 I'm a bad father. Do you think you're a bad father? I think I'm a terrible phone. You don't seem like it. I don't even have one photo with my dad. Yeah. Especially singing it on a stage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I've hurt my children. No. That's not being a bad father. Every good father hurts their children. Yeah, my dad hurt me so much every day. Look at what I came out. Yeah, I wish my dad. Thank you for the comedy, dad.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I couldn't be funny without that tragedy, Dad. what could have you done differently though if you could go back nothing right i think i would you know i i did according to gym for eight years right down the street here yeah oh my kids were like going all through grade school i was there every day i was taking them to school i pick him up we had dinner so i was not away from my family yeah that's what i'm saying how could you be yeah oh well you know i come from the midwest and i'm very about accountability responsibility you know, work ethic and I'm married, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:11 to this kind of Hollywood thing where it was more important to be more socially committed. So I had a little conflict with the kids that way. Oh, I see. More time conscious? Like, no, it's like,
Starting point is 00:29:24 I'm not going to go to football practice because there's a birthday party. Okay. And I'm like, what? A birthday party? You do social before commitment I do commitment before social Weddings, I miss funerals, I miss my own
Starting point is 00:29:46 I pushed two of my weddings because of what Wow I mean I do I do social first Do you really? Yeah social comes before commitment Oh come on Oh man I'm a bad dad you right now You're fucking grounded
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah like for example Oh so you would ground your kid No I would yeah I get mad at them. Yeah. Come on, man. Wake up. Go to football practice.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You're not known to be a partier. No, I don't really party. I get all that. Can I argue that, like, birthday parties are rarer than, like, soccer practice? They have a birthday every year. Well, but there's soccer practice every week? Yeah. Every day.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Come on. Okay, every day. Yeah, every day. Yeah, but it's developing a skill. I guess birthday parties. is developing a blowing up balloon skill. Discipline. I think like discipline,
Starting point is 00:30:41 especially growing up in the past. There's no way you had discipline. There's no way there. Look at this face. Of discipline. I am discipline. You represent the word. Oh, do you know how many times I've tried,
Starting point is 00:30:54 I want to say bad words right now? Oh, really? Yeah, and I'm just disciplining it down. No, you have discipline. You have, even if it's football practice, you're not going to be a football start. What were you doing in football? Were you one of the polls?
Starting point is 00:31:10 What were you doing in fucking football? I was teaching the quarterback how to play harmonica. It was, no, skateboarding. And it was everyday skateboarding. And it was no parties. It was, you got to go film. You are.
Starting point is 00:31:23 You got to go film. And you're working that skill. You're working that, crap, that edging, all that. Isn't that the joy? Yeah, for me, yeah. For me, it was, too. But when I asked, like, time conscious, especially when you start in comedy
Starting point is 00:31:36 in this business, even if it's a girlfriend or, you know, God forbid, a daughter or a son, you have to kind of choose those things over that and it kind of maybe will misaline how you were brought up, right? Well, no, like I said, I was there.
Starting point is 00:31:51 He was there, I attacking you, Jim. He said you're a bad father. I didn't say that at all, man. I say I was a bad father because I was, I worked up. Oh, that's Mark. Oh, guys. Being held by a black man.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I was tough. I was tough on the kids. Yeah. So back in the 70s when you were like in early days, you did party a lot. Yeah, of course. The 70s was it. Yeah, because I have an argument with comics.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I go, if we were big in the 70s, I believe that it would be, we would get more, we'd hook up with, it was a sexual revolution. Yeah. Right? Don't you think it was easier to hook up with? people and this and that or was it was it not it was it was it was it was not it was the age thing
Starting point is 00:32:37 happened oh yeah they fucked everything up man they got very scared god damn everybody got very scared yeah yeah but yeah it was a wild time there's a lot of coke around yeah yeah drinking there was parties all night there was sunset boulevard was wild i mean you know john was like the the king of it you know yeah yeah yeah i don't because you probably get asked about it a lot uh about your brother i try not to you know we've talked about it on set before, because I've asked you some questions, but what a lot. I mean, do you miss your brother? I mean, obviously you do
Starting point is 00:33:11 immensely. Do I miss... Do you think about him? You know what John's missed? He's missed some really great movies. He's missed my children. He's missed everything. That's what he's missed. Yeah. Do I miss it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I don't know any different. Yeah. But, okay, so that was, that's the question. I think I did what you told me not to do You lowered your voice I lowered my voice Oh my fuck god
Starting point is 00:33:41 Let me do it again Alright so let me tell you what Arnold said for me to say When I get asked that question Oh my God Be more comedic Play the piano next time Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah Okay
Starting point is 00:33:51 He said He goes Jim what's the toughest question you get I said I hated one The interviewers lower their voice I go, do you miss John? He goes, okay, ask me that question. I said, okay, because we were promoting Red Heat at the time.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I said, do you miss John? And Arnold go, do I miss John? Do I miss John? You know what John is missing? One of the best action sequences made in the movie. There is a scene at the end of Red Heat that John would have loved. It's a big...
Starting point is 00:34:28 That's good. Yeah, that's good. So I just did that to you. Did that? I said, what did he miss? Yeah, that was so good. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Great redirect. Red Heat. Wow. Yeah, he's all about redirect. Did he hard? He seems like he's so easy to work with. He's lovely. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 He's one of the greatest men that I've known in my life. Oh, wow. You still talk? Oh, yeah. We talk once in a while. I don't like to bother people. Yeah. I have the same thing.
Starting point is 00:34:55 You know, I don't want to bother it. Yeah. Even Danny Ackroyd, who's like, Like my best friend, I wait for him to call. I don't want to bug him, you know. Oh, but you don't know, that, you know what? That sucks. I kind of, but I was like that with John to do it, everybody was bothering him,
Starting point is 00:35:11 and I was like, I'm going to be the one that doesn't bother him. And I kind of cheated myself out of a relationship because of that. With him? Yeah, because I, everybody was trying to, you know, grab at him. That kind of fame doesn't happen anymore. Well, I'm talking about family, too. Oh, yeah, yeah. They were just like, so as a family, I said, okay, I guess.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I know how busy are. Oh, probably cousins coming out of nowhere going out of nowhere. I need money. I've had cousins call me. I haven't talked to you in fucking 30 years. Yeah. I need some money. Do you give it the rule?
Starting point is 00:35:39 I have a rule. 2000? No, not that much. No, no, I have a rule. I have more than that before. Really? Yeah, but my... He invested in a company before.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah. Oh, is this the inventor cousin? Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, no. I want to hear the new one. Yeah, yeah. I did five. on that one.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So I have a rule I'll do it one time. And then, so I gave a family member 10 grand for this business. And then years later he goes, you know, I need another. And at that point, I go, check it out.
Starting point is 00:36:19 You can keep the 10 I gave you. It's not a loan. It's a gift. But I'm not giving you another dime. Yeah, my thing is what do you think of that here's I think that's great everyone in the room Mark what do you like
Starting point is 00:36:33 don't ask me again I go here it is I don't have to pay me back just don't ask me again yeah yeah that's like that's a big gift yeah it is that's a big gift I would never be able to ask anyone
Starting point is 00:36:42 for that money yeah I would make them come in and present kind of like Shark Tank yeah yeah a whole presentation yeah yeah hello Bobby
Starting point is 00:36:51 but when there's when they're desperate I know but when there's desperation in the voice I know, but that makes it so much more fun. Because then you can... Oh my God, but I'm going to fuck you. How much do you need? You really need it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 No, you little bitch. You didn't come to my high school place, bitch. Yeah, yeah, that kind of thing. So you do loan... Same rule that you have probably. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Give a little one and say, don't do it again.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Don't do it again, yeah. Unless it's like really close family member. a la la my mom I find I find when you help people that they eventually resent you why yeah explain
Starting point is 00:37:38 I can agree to that yeah I think well why because the Asians are confused the white guys yeah
Starting point is 00:37:47 white guys know about lending money let me tell you yeah explain it Mark I think there's there's a lot of like you
Starting point is 00:37:58 said whether it's a loan or it's a gift there's lack of communication and if let's say i mean i've lent people money i've lent comics around here money and i can see within like the first couple months to me i knew it wasn't alone it was just like hey you need this yeah here you pay back whatever whatever but i could see it on their faces maybe that in that middle meantime oh he's thinking about the money oh he's just around here because he wants to collect on his money so there's this of communication. Yeah, yeah, that kind of helps. Also, sometimes they believe that you give it to them
Starting point is 00:38:36 because you don't believe they can do it for themselves. And so that they start. Oh, there's a lot of layers to get. Yeah, there is. Believe me, I've lost some deep friendships because of $1,000 one time. So why not just don't ever do that? Like no money exchanging?
Starting point is 00:38:56 when you're not autistic it's hard to not have feelings you know and just look what wait wait what he's trying to say you're autistic and have no no no no no no no no no i got help i got helped a few times my brother helped me uh i had a teacher helped me one time i used to run out of money i used to you paid every two weeks at school yeah and it would last one week. And then the second week I had no money and this teacher would lend me, you know, 20 bucks. And it would get me through that week and I'd get paid and I'd pay him the money, but I would still be out that next week. But he helped me. So I, and I was really grateful for it. I didn't resent him. I was like, and so I kind of want to pass that.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I owe Carlos Mincia thousands of dollars. Wow. Thousands over the years. I can't pay rent or my lights are out because back then I was struggling hard yeah so that you know comics it's easier to do comics you know I mean I've had people betray me I've had I've loaned people money and then they talk shit beyond my back
Starting point is 00:40:13 That's where the resentment comes Yeah yeah I've had that happen Fuck that's crazy Yeah I had a dude like talk mad shit like Tell a promoter Yeah if you use him You know I mean I will never work with you again
Starting point is 00:40:26 And then the promoter will call me You can't believe that so-and-so said I just give him a grand Like real betrayal in that way It's a sticky area It's a sticky area, yeah yeah Can you tell when someone's gonna do that Like resent you
Starting point is 00:40:43 They're the type of person, you know? Sometimes no Because how close are you How close do you know somebody? People especially early on in comedy people hide sides of their personality very well very well and for a very long period of time and then once fame and fortune happens they leak yeah my god and then you're like oh shit you're a monster yeah you can you can kind of tell like when i i lent someone money recently and and after like a month
Starting point is 00:41:12 it was kind of awkward with us kind of being in the same room and i had to i wanted to kind of get it out in the open and be like listen i'm not here because of that i'm also not thinking about it at all I just want us to be cool. Yeah, yeah. You pay me back, it's fine. Don't pay me back. It don't matter. Why don't you just pay me back
Starting point is 00:41:30 so we can be cool again? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, why can we be direct? You're the one is being uncool, man. Yeah, yeah. At least you can make it happen. Give me 20 bucks once in a while. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah, yeah. Come on, man, I'm sick of being this liberal good guy. I want to be bad dad. But, you know, as the lender sometimes, I do hear the other side of them getting resentful of the person that asked for money when they see them buy things that are not necessary.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Oh, boom, boom, boom, okay. Yeah, when you're like, they post. Oh, so basically, like, let's say you're rich, I'm poor. Yeah, and I just haven't eaten and I got to pay my electrical bills. Okay, here's some money. And then two days later, I'm posting like new fits. Yeah, or like, Instagram.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Or like you're, yeah, out drinking or something. Oh. Or like you got some new, like, a new hat. That's happened to me many times. Yeah. Really? I've seen that happen and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:42:29 I thought you needed the money to live and you're putting a sauna in your backyard. It's so sad. I'd have all the Stardue Valley DLC all of this stuff. Don't make fun of that, please. Don't speak ill of Stardue Valley. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So Chicago's where that's your hood. I've been hanging there more. Yeah, yeah, I've been hanging there more. There in Oregon, I had the farm up in Oregon. Yeah, and then I got a place Martha's Vineyard and I go to in the summers. Wow. Oh.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Do you have, do you ever go to Gibson's Steakhouse? Yeah, I was just there. No. I was just there like three, four days ago. Do you know about Gibson's Steakhouse? Where's that out? That's Chicago. Chicago?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah. It's amazing? Yeah, no. It's not just amazing. It's just a cool place. It's a cool old place. You're going to really like that. I haven't been there in a while.
Starting point is 00:43:22 My mom grew up in. Cicero and Oak Park and my family in St. Charles, but I was just Portillo's. That's all I knew. That's all I knew. Yeah. But Gibson's Steakhouse has a carrot cake. Oh, yeah. Can you Google the carrot cake? I had it. It's. Gibson's. Oh, it's, it's gigantic. Yeah. That's a great area, too, right there in a triangle, because across the street's place called Carmines, it's coming. It's great food there, too. What kind of food is a Carmines? Italian. It sounds like it, yeah. Relax, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's a typo. It is a typhus. But, you know, Guy Fietti is a friend of mine. Guy Furi? Fieti. Uh-oh. You know.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You got to say it right. Says it like that. Wait. Wait, it's Fieri? Fieri. Detti. Fieri. Detti.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Guy Fieri. Yeah. Super cool, dude. Anyway, I asked him, you know, what is your favorite city for food? Chicago. Whoa. I came right out of his mouth.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I went not in New Orleans. not New York, goes Chicago. Wow. He goes, they have everything there. It's beautiful cuisine. Buddy of mine, R.J. Melman has let us entertain you. He has like 60 restaurants there, and they're all awesome.
Starting point is 00:44:37 That's one character. Oh, my, Ed Gibson's. It's insane. It's absolutely insane. It's huge. Is it $50? That place is pretty kind of a pricey, right? Is it a challenge?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. A carrot cake challenge? Do you get it? anything if you eat the whole thing. Yeah, it's amazing. And the steaks are top of the line. Come to Gibson's. Try our care cake muck bang. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Guy Fierry. Fierty. Fieri. Guy Ferry. Fierry. I used to say Fierry. I've met him. I've talked to him before. I don't understand a word he's saying ever. Every time I meet him, it's in a loud place. He was going, hey man, we're going to
Starting point is 00:45:22 French toads. French toads. French toes. Side of a lollole. You're like, okay. You're not going to understand. And his hair is crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yeah, like, what are you fucking in Blade Runner? Does look very Blade Runner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Rutkerhauer and Blade Runner. Great movie, by the way. Yeah, I just rewatched it. You're also a film guy, and we've talked about film before. what's your top
Starting point is 00:45:52 oh yeah you I recommended you oh my god how many movies did I recommend you about five all Korean movies awesome
Starting point is 00:46:00 they're the best they're the best they're so good oh my god the comedy was really good I never heard of that one the western oh no no
Starting point is 00:46:09 I know which one Kung Fu hustle that's not Korean Chinese but is that Chinese classic It's a classic movie You recommended that
Starting point is 00:46:17 I didn't recommend that And then I'm trained to Bouchon Yeah yeah The zombie movie Yeah, yeah. That's great. What was the...
Starting point is 00:46:22 Old boy? No, old boy. It was great. Great. Good. I don't know what you guys think about Squid games. Love it.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Love him. I fucking love it. Love it. That lead guy is killer. He really acts of his ass off the season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great show.
Starting point is 00:46:43 That was really good. Yeah. In fact, Korean production, it's just, it's, I don't know. It's cool. It's, yeah. They get an all. man they get how to shoot yeah they get how to edit and they act and the storylines are just like I mean crazy really go creative the big the thing that like the bigger picture that it tells which I think
Starting point is 00:47:04 is very similar in all Korean films is that there is no like in American films if you get revenge you're the good guy any movie the the best part you know you get that revenge you win but in any Korean movie if you get revenge you lose right that's that's kind of every Korean movie tells which is a great morality really yeah and I also think that they do a great job of blending like in the movie the host great you think it's a slapstick but then it's a horror but then it's like a thriller yeah it's a but you never it's never like you're never taking out of it yeah story they just do a great job they do I mean it's very Asian to be like oh, you want something, you should have
Starting point is 00:47:50 never wanted something. You know? Yeah. And we didn't, I didn't grow up with that. Do not want anything. That's so it. It's very Asian. But in America, it's like,
Starting point is 00:48:02 you want something? That's great. You should get it. Go get it. Usually remakes are bad, right? Yeah. I didn't see the remake. I didn't see it either.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I saw a naked gun. That was pretty funny. Was it? Yeah, it was pretty funny, man. I heard. I heard, he was a great job. It was so straight. He was really good.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah. I have a friend, he's a very big comedian. His argument is, would Steve Martin or somebody a real comedian? No, no, no, no. Good choice. It was a good choice. It was a good choice. And gags, you know, for us?
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yeah, we love gags. Oh, my God. They got some great gags. Gag, gag, gag, gag. I'm literally in a movie theater. I'm going, good gag. Great gag. Why is that guy playing the harmonica?
Starting point is 00:48:49 Every time there's a gag, yeah. Were there times we were like bad gag? That was all right. Yeah, it was all right, yeah. That was all right, but a lot of good gags. Yeah, yeah. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But, I mean, you do have to admit that these IPs that people have and they're remaking the same thing over and over again. I mean, it does get annoying, no? I mean, how many Ghostbusters, Jurassic, how many times are you going to go back to that island?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? There's always an excuse. used to go to that island. There's, you know what I mean? My daughter's missing or you know what I mean? There's doing genetic experiments or we need to get this, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Oh, this dinosaur stuck in tree. Yeah, yeah. That's not a movie. Old T-Rex. Also, the dinosaurs aren't on an island. Dinosaurs doesn't scary anymore. You know how you make it scary on that? You put on that
Starting point is 00:49:42 island? On that Epstein. How scary would that? That's so funny. That's a great Jurassic Park fans. Good gag. Good gag. Good gag.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, all of a sudden the end of the movie, you're like, oh my God, they're on this island. Yeah, yeah. And all the like, teenage T-Rexes
Starting point is 00:49:59 are like running from him. And the old guy's actually Epstein. Yeah. You don't do, you don't have a podcast, right? No. You never want one to do one? Never thought of it.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Oh. Wow. It would be great. I don't. Yeah. It might be fun. What, do you have like other
Starting point is 00:50:19 I mean, obviously the harmonica, but other than acting, how do you satisfy that creative? Oh, I'm real lucky. I have an improv group. Oh, that's right. You do, yeah. We hit the road and have a ball. Just have a ball. I have the Blues Brothers. So you go out, it's like doing a one-night Broadway musical, you know, just 12 people and just horns, four horns, a B-3 organ, two get, Starbley's singers. It's like a show, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And I did that. And then also I do, uh, wow. I'm in, uh, that's Larry Joe Campbell, who was in a recording to him.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah. That's cool. Is that Dean Kane? What's going up there? Dean Kay. That was me, my. Oh, that's you. Okay. I like that you're all dressed the same.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. Well, this is, we play, uh, uh, the three tenors. Oh. So that was us being the three tenors. No, but do you play? Improved games up to that? Yeah. We're going to do a freeze.
Starting point is 00:51:21 No, not freeze, but we do other games. A little more sophisticated. Oh, all right. Whoa, all right, relax. Bobby's like, wait. Stop, stop. Stop, stop. Like long form improv.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Not that sophisticated. But do you do stuff like, I mean, I've rarely been to a show. We do take that back. You know what that one is? No. Wait, ring a bell after you say something. Yeah, so explain, because you have to explain the crowd what it is, right? Here, here, do a scene with him
Starting point is 00:51:51 He'll Explain to me, take that back And then me, us four will be You're so nervous Can four people you do it? Yeah. Okay, explain to us Yeah
Starting point is 00:52:02 We're the audience, explain it You'll just see it, he'll just start talking about. As soon as you hear the bell, whatever you just said, you have to take it back And say something else. Quickly. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Like, my name is Jim. Ding. Ding. My name is Bill. Ding. I've never been named. Ding. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Oh, I see. My mother here. Okay. And then we continue. I like that. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:24 So nervous. Why are you so nervous? I'm sweating too. I'm like, I'm like, I hope you're so nervous. Is it a sad standoff? I don't do improv. I've never done it. I got to do tapping.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Lots of gags, though. Lots of gags. Okay. So do we go one at a time? No, I think it's a scene. Yeah. I think it's a scene. So Bobby, you ask the audience for a suggestion of a place that can fit on the stage.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Where's your bell? Can we get a suggestion? Just go dang on your side. I'll say. I'll say ding. Do it now while they're talking. Just talk. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Okay. What do you mean? I thought the audience suggested something. Ding. Movie night. It's a movie night. Okay. They dinged you.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Oh, I thought the animals... Can the everyone go get some coffee again? Dink. I thought the pastures accept something. Is that how the game's play? Just be in the scenes. Stay in the scene. Let's start over.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Now I get it. So much worth it. Wait. Wait, wait. Wait, stop over. I got it. Okay. Okay, start over.
Starting point is 00:53:18 All right to go. You guys are all in a movie theater. Five, three. Action. God, I hate black and white movies. You know what? I like black and white movies, but I don't like the subtitles. Ding.
Starting point is 00:53:29 You can't, you can't. You can't, you're in the scene? He digs it. Okay, sorry, sorry. You're next? Yeah, I mean, this movie is good, no? This movie's all right. Ding.
Starting point is 00:53:39 This movie sucks. Ding. This movie is like, it's pretty life-changing. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know. Is it my turn? Anybody can talk Honestly, watching stand-ups as an improviser is crazy
Starting point is 00:53:53 Wait, I forgot what movie is this? He improvised in the last movie We were ripping it. I just don't know the rules of the game I'm confused behind the... We're at a movie theater. Ding. We are at the bathroom of the movie theater.
Starting point is 00:54:08 That was too slow, baby. I'm sorry. You get kicked off. You get kicked off. Oh, you get kicked off? Gone, bye, bye, bye. All right, you three. Oh, give us another game.
Starting point is 00:54:19 That was the easiest. Now I want to win. There's three of us left. I didn't know there was winning. Oh, no, but there is a loser. I like it. Damn. Got slammed.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Let's try it. Let's try it one more time. Ding. We're going to exercise one more time. Ding. We're going to meditate for one more time. I've never done meditation before. I love meditation.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Really? I love meditation. Well, it's the. breathing. And when you breathe and you focus on the breathing, it takes you out of everything else. It takes you to places you've never been before. Ding.
Starting point is 00:54:58 It takes you to Peru and machis where you're doing ayahuasca. I had the best tea in Peru. Ding. I had the best elephant dung in Peru. Really? I've tried elephant dung before. It's great tea. That does make great tea. It's a little thick though. It's a little thin. Ding. It's soupy. Ding. It's kind of like hard but
Starting point is 00:55:20 soft at the same time. It's gay. I'm gay. And I know you just came out. Yeah. I know you just came, but we've known all along that you were gay. Well, I do carry around elephant dong in my back pocket. And a harmonica in your car. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Yes, but that's strictly for straight dude. Wait, I thought you guys were all gay. You're out of the gay? Well, I thought you were out of the scene. I thought you were out of the scene. Jesus. Okay, I kind of understand now that game. You kind of understand that?
Starting point is 00:55:52 That's the only... Is there another game? You should have them on the road and do one special guest. There's no way. You can do the intro to the show. Hey, welcome to, you know. The laugh.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Actually, when I do the show, I could never do stand-up. I never had the balls. You've never tried it? Well, you know, in college, a thing called after dinner speaking and was kind of a it was a nine minute, eight, nine minute
Starting point is 00:56:21 routine. And I took nationals with that I did very well. That's the closest I came to stand up but I've really, I've been doing the acting thing so long to actually be straight to the audience. It's very difficult for me. But when I started this crew I started with my son Robert they wanted me to do the intro
Starting point is 00:56:39 and warm up the audience a little bit. So I did like three minutes, four minutes, five minutes. Now I can sit up there for 20 minutes doing kind of crowd work. Well, that's what it is. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. I got pretty good at it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So now I feel confident as myself in front of an audience. Have you ever written a joke and I'm going to squeeze it in there? Yes. Yeah, that's stand-up. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:57:02 Oh, yeah. You know what I do? When I go to that town, I read their local papers. Yeah, that's... Yeah. Fun. Yeah, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, and you find out what's going on in the town and you bring it up. Yeah. What's up with the... Your football team, you know, mascot. Yeah. Ding. What's up with your
Starting point is 00:57:18 football team football? What's up with your football team's coach? Yeah, he did get... You're off the state. You gotta hide in it and then maybe find it out.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Hide it. You go one, two, three. How do you know so much about the game? He's from Second City. Oh. He's from Second City, Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Yeah. Oh, what company did you? You didn't rise far. BISCO. What? Bizcoe in Chicago? Biscoe. Kelly?
Starting point is 00:57:45 Kelly run on that, yeah. What is it? Tell me about Bisco. It's the one where you don't tour, but you just go to corporate events and you do corporate shows. Oh, Baird, corporation. Like boom Chicago in Amsterdam?
Starting point is 00:57:59 Like cruise ship comedy for stand-up comics almost. Oh, no, they did cruise ships for a while. Yeah. Wow. That sounds like a not fun. Have you ever done stand? Has he asked you to stand-up? Have you ever done stand-up?
Starting point is 00:58:15 He did with me. I've never done improv either. He did with me and Karate ghost. He does it every night when he goes up. Yeah, yeah. I can improve improv in a scene. It's just in front of with game. I've never done it.
Starting point is 00:58:26 You know what I mean? It took a real while. Yeah. Like freeze tag. Freeze, you tap them and then you go in the position. Yeah, we used to close our show. And then you do a different thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:37 We used to close the show at Second City with that. Like, I know the rules of improv. Like, Cliff, happy birthday, man. You thought you something. Wow. Nice. Wow. Is that real proof or is that plastic?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Oh, I love plastic. I know those rules. What rule did you show? What rule did you show us? I always agree. I was going to agree with you. Yeah, and I go, yes. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:59:09 I was in private. Off, you're off, you're off. I'm not off. Ding. Off, shit. How are you the judge? I did a ride. Ding.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah, I did it right. I did it right. I did it right. You're still off stage. What are you even back on stage? Wow. So do you do theaters or like what do you do? Do you do comedy clubs or?
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, we do comedy clubs. We do performing arts centers all across country. Yeah, that must be fun. Oh, it's fun, man. I mean, there's this place with Warsaw, Wisconsin. Oh. One of the most beautiful theaters. is a grand theater.
Starting point is 00:59:46 She's like 2,000 people. We've been there three times sold out each time. Wow. It's so wonderful to play. Wow. They get the jokes. Meet and greet afterwards? Yes, that's the gig.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah. Do you have, like, fans that have been coming for a long time that you kind of look out for, and you're like, I hope they don't show up this time? No. No, we're scattered so far from Virginia Beach to Connecticut. You know. Yeah. Well, that sounds so fucking fun.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Yeah. I have a ball. And then you're still doing a lot of, like, movies. I did four movies this year. Wow. And I did two of them with you. 50 of my career this year. Well, I did.
Starting point is 01:00:25 A lot of time together. Well, sorry. I apologize. But karate ghost. Yeah. Yeah. Karate Ghost was, I don't know, I mean. Like, they go, you want to do karate ghost? And they go, Belushi's in it.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And I go, okay. Yeah, I was so happy. Yeah. That's the. It's probably really the only reason to do it. But then Steve Howie's in it now. Yeah. A bunch of people are in it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 And you know what? It's funny. Not just funny. You know what? I saw when we would see some of the footage and it looked good. I'm telling you this guy, I did it because of James, the director and writer. Because I did another movie one time. He did me a favor to make health insurance, right?
Starting point is 01:01:14 and I did one day and he paid me a lot of money and I don't know whatever happened to the movie but then he came back and said this is the movie I've been working out for 10 years that really want you to be part of it and I said whatever you want James yeah and I read the script and it was cute
Starting point is 01:01:30 it's a family movie family movie yeah sweet yeah it's super are you guys doing but I did two others you have one coming out right okay tell us about it that's why you're here All right, we get it, we get it
Starting point is 01:01:45 You're here promoting I'm like waiting He's gonna set this fucking thing I'm gonna ding you, ding So tell us about the movie I did one movie I did one movie with Hugh Jackman
Starting point is 01:02:05 And Kate Hudson Wow And it's based on a documentary in 2008 of a Neil Diamond tribute band in Milwaukee. Wow. Yeah, it was really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:17 And it's a Neil Diamond movie. He plays this Neil Diamond impersonator. So that's, that really... Hugh Jackman does. Oh, he's so good. King, that sounds interesting. Oh, yeah. I think Kate gives a performance of her life in this.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I know, I know Kate. And I love Kate. She, uh, they tested so well that Universal said we're opening Christmas Day. Wow. Very big deal. Look at that. Dude, that looks like him a little bit. It does, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 That's incredible. What do you play, like a manager? Yeah, exactly. I play the manager, books him, you know. Wow. How many days did you do on that one? I was there for the whole shoot, but, you know, I didn't work every day. Where do you guys shoot?
Starting point is 01:02:55 What town? Everything in Jersey. Wow. Yeah, great. That must have been so fun. Tax credits, yeah. Yeah, and what's another one? I did another movie called, I don't know if anyone will see it because it's really a deep, dark, beautiful
Starting point is 01:03:11 film taken from a book called Chronology of Water, which Kristen Stewart adapted and directed. Wow. Wait, Kristen Stewart directed you? Yeah. Twilight. Wow. Yeah. I know. I know Twilight.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I just watched it, yeah. She's terrific. Oh, she is, yeah. Oh, my gosh. What a great director she turned out to be. Oh, yeah. Really good for you. Oh, my God. It did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it is coming out then. Yeah, they just found a distributor and
Starting point is 01:03:41 I think it's coming out in mid-October. It went to Cairns? Yeah. Yeah, well, then everyone's going to see it. Why are you upset? No, I'm just saying. He was like, it's going to, you know. It's one of the most beautiful films and stories.
Starting point is 01:03:56 She just nailed it. Well, who, so, uh... I play Ken Keezy. Ken Keeze. Wow. Wow. Well, so then you're killing it. That one was, this one was special movie.
Starting point is 01:04:09 But aren't you killing it? Nora Birch is in it. She does great. Aren't you killing it? Yeah, I'm having a good time, man. Yeah. I'm having a good time. I get to travel.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I get to sing. I get the dance. I get to be fun. I mean, these are great projects. Very dramatic role, this one. Yeah. These two are very different from karate ghosts. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:28 It's just very different. You know what, dude? I can't wait for karate ghost to be a hit. It's going to sneak up and just nail everybody. I think so cute. Yeah. I love the name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Okay. You're back on stage. I mean, because you've had, I mean, bro, what a career then. Oh, I've done a lot of stuff, man. Yeah, you're also, I remember during gutter muckers, there was one long day we had, and you have such patience. Did I have patience that day? No, I think you said in a very healthy way, hey, guys, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 01:05:10 Or, like, because we were all kind of feeling it. Like, what is going on here? Yeah. We had no idea what was going on. You know what I mean? And it's also, it's not one of those productions where you have a trailer. So you're just out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I'm like sitting on a log and smoking a cigarette for like three hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I stepped up that day. Yeah, you stepped up. So set your shots. Yeah. Fix your shots. Get what you want.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Then call us in. We'll adjust. Yeah. With these two guys. are the best. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're the best. Oh, my God. Yeah, there's me on Guidermockers.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Leslie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fun. It was Eleanor Kerrigan's first movie. Wow. Whoa. Yeah, she's so sweet. I know, she's so nice.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Yeah, what a, what a blessing. Yeah. So what are the two movies again? The one with the chronology of water. Right. Kristen Stewart. And the other one is, let me. It's called Song Sung, Sung, Blue.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Song, sung, blue. That's what a Neil Diamond. Neil Diamond. Those are both. Song, song, blue, da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, coming to America. That's him, right?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Oh, no. Yeah, it is. I think so. What do you mean? I didn't sing it right? I don't think so. And I know what I'm going to do. Come into America.
Starting point is 01:06:33 No. That's not him? That's not, you're not singing it right. No, no, no. But you know what I'm saying. I kind of do. What do you mean? You know the song I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:41 No. Yeah. We're coming to America. Okay. Zoom in. I don't know. They're coming to America. Yeah, everywhere around the world.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Everyone around the world, they're coming to America. Every time the flags unfurled. I mean, I'm saying it right. I think so. I mean, I like it. Play it then. I'm going to show you. I like how it goes.
Starting point is 01:07:07 The way I'm doing it? Yeah. Wait. do the harmonica with you on that. Yeah, maybe the harmonia. Songs, song. Every man around the world. Okay, anyway.
Starting point is 01:07:19 The movie's not called coming to America. Called song, song, blue. I know, but I was trying to go, do I know any Neil Diamond songs? Come on. And then I sang the one that I know and everyone's like, no, that's what it.
Starting point is 01:07:32 It's that it embarrassed me. That's fucked up, I believe. You know? So are you going to, are you still, now, there's rest of it. After the, like after this pod, you have a busy year? Yeah. Always, always busy, man.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah, I keep busy, but I keep a lot of times of myself, too. Yeah. Yeah. I like Chicago a lot. Alone on a lake. Being mindful. How about your environment? Two blocks from the old second city.
Starting point is 01:08:00 It's like my old hood there in Chicago. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah. Gibson's. Right there, walking just eight minutes. Yeah. I've timed everything. You've timed everything.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah, yeah. And you're single now. Yes. That's good. You think you'll get married again? I don't know if I have room in my heart for it. Oh. No.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I don't know. Wait, what does that mean? What does that mean? I don't know. I don't know. I think I gave it all out with three marriages and three kids. I feel stronger. Three marriages.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Like is your heart, does it feel full or tired? being Go quick quick Ask another question Are you happy? Yeah there you go I'm happy Why can't you meet somebody
Starting point is 01:08:54 And just not get married And just hang out with them For the rest of your life Yeah I like that I mean don't you think that's the best of Why this marriage thing Yeah I think I agree with you Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:04 I have never been married Yeah that's cool Because I have to be convinced to the phone. You know, when you have children, it's a different kind of thing, you know. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. Have you, Mark ever been married? No.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah, yeah. No. How old are you now? 38. Yeah. Yeah, it should be there, but it's not. Yeah, Jim, this guy. It's hard.
Starting point is 01:09:28 These two right here in terms of stand-up, they're incredible. Oh, I can't wait to see it. Thank you, Bobby. They're in fucking credible. Yeah, they're like the next. like stars. Oh, I can't wait to see him, man. I'll keep my eye out.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Thank you, Jim. Yeah. Jim, you want anything to say anything else? Did you have fun, by the way? I love being with you. I love you, too. I like you too. Let's do.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I like it a lot. Let's do two more movies. Because I don't die in it. I remember. And then, yeah, I mean, I always if anyone called and go, Belushi's in it, I'll go in. Same thing.
Starting point is 01:10:06 I was like, so. That's awesome. By the way, I got excited when I got the email invited me on the show. I got all giggly. I was like, oh, that's so cute. How did that happen?
Starting point is 01:10:15 You guys reached out? I think we've been waiting since you talked about him on gutter muckers. Like we've been wanting to just waiting for Jim to be in town. Oh, yeah, yeah, great. Yeah, I moved.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I had to move something to get here for today. Oh, well, what did you do? I didn't do bad for being jet lagged, right? Amazing. Kill them. What you're talking about? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:34 There we go. There we go. Play piano with him. Let's finish out. E minor? Can I do E minor or E major? Okay. Can I hear it in here? Can I hear it? I can hear it, but You're the man
Starting point is 01:11:11 You're the man Okay, anyway, Jim Belike, everyone. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, that was so good. I think a Bukukani, I'makabololid. Oolong khaa, maudonga, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, yi, do, ee, do. Shukuluki, mouki, salaman, fid, fid. Fittan Bukukani, I'ma maca bongololi,
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