TigerBelly - Moshe Kasher, Natasha Leggero, and The Wet Vibe King
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Music Hey, don't look at my head, you can't look at my head I reject the threat.
Are you from Texas?
I think so.
You came here from Texas?
Well, I came from Vegas.
You was there?
Yeah, where were you?
I was in Vegas.
I know, but where?
What? What hotel? You were in Las Vegas? The old Vegas. Were you there I was there was there yeah, where were you I was done Vegas I never wear
What what how you're in Las Vegas the old Vegas? Oh, you're the old Vegas who you with nobody it was a layover
You didn't see the game I didn't see the game no
Well, where you where you're going from though from Dallas, Texas from Dallas you went to Las Vegas
There's no direct from Dallas to LA. I couldn't get one
Can we pay for it? I don't know. No, he's here to see his friends. Oh, where's your friends at?
Downtown LA. Oh Mexicans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you live? Oh, like are they like clowns?
They live in like 15 people per
16 oh 15 15's wrong. Oh, yeah 16. I don't have even I know it's listen guys
I'm not
saying that Mexicans live like clowns you know that's how you used to live in
silver that's what I'm saying so I'm just saying that's what how people wait how
many people lived in the dumpster like seven or eight to better apartment so I
understand you know fans huh you skate me yeah not so much not so much more I broke my arm you did when you're 12 what
were you trying to do kickflip oh yeah I was doing with twist back then you know
I was doing with twist back then on ramps and stuff anyway what are you doing
oh yeah you gotta be a little louder to hi man oh is this on oh we just catching
up no it's on oh like we're we're doing it oh it's on I will just catch you know it's on like we're doing it oh
it's on right now what do you think that we're just I thought we just catching
on small talk with you I wouldn't small talk with you I do big talks big talks
yeah yeah okay what were you doing in Vegas what do you mean watching the game
I was just like a lot of the big the big game, 49ers versus the Chiefs.
Almost 1,000 photos are online of you and people.
Just what I find so interesting about Bobby, like the night before, he was...
He's opening for birth in Tom, right?
No, I'm not opening.
No, I'm not...
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Oh, sorry, guess the people?
No, no, no, no, no, no. Stop, stop.
Hot five.
Hot five, hot ten.
Hot five.
Let me say something, okay? It was... was I wasn't opening I just happened to be before
Years before them. Yeah, I mean it's like okay. I was opening but
But then Shane Gillis was opening yeah
Who was there just give us all the names people who performed yet perform who you saw everything the MC was Trevor Wallace
Love it my good friend. You know yeah
Huh tiktok. Yeah, he's on tiktok. I know so are you though me? Yeah on Instagram. Oh fuck my bad
My bad, dude
Mmm, you have a cricket smile, huh? Yeah, I've been told you've been told that
My sisters did they drop me when I was a baby You have a cricket smile, huh? Yeah, I've been told. You've been told that?
My sisters, they dropped me when I was a baby.
They did?
They did?
They drew you as a baby?
We were playing that Cross the Bridge game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I don't know.
What's it called, you know, the red rover?
Red rover.
Red rover.
And I couldn't break the bridge.
Well, how do you play that game?
You went, you break the bridge.
Would you do that with your hands?
You hold the other person's the song over over over over yeah anyway um yeah
so Trevor walk who'd you go for the 49ers the chiefs comedy there for comedy
oh you I wasn't there I left it let me by comedy. Oh, you want to? I wasn't there. I left.
Oh, let me, by the way, if you ever want to go
to Las Vegas, the airport, go during the Super Bowl.
If it's playing in the Super Bowl, it was like a ghost town.
Oh.
Like there was no line at the gate.
You just walk right through.
Oh, coming back from.
Oh, yeah.
I flew right when the game started.
Oh, yeah.
Your flight was like right at kickoff.
At kickoff.
And I walked up to it, I go, is this open?
It did, I felt like it was closed.
I walked in, I walked right through.
And then, you know, anyway, what happened?
Oh yeah, so I performed, I opened, it was me,
Trevor Wallace, me, and then Shane Gillis,
and then Bert and then Tom.
And let me say something okay
You were nervous not only nervous I begged on my hands and knees
to Tom I got Tom sir
master
Please because they had it Trevor Shane and then me
Because they had it Trevor Shane and then me
And shit no fuck you man Shane's the man of the world right now. He's it's it's his it's his time
He's in the media. He's hosting SNL, right? Yeah, he's one of the best comics even Andrew Santina goes
Shane Gillows is a better comic than us
He said that out loud. He said that to you. Yeah, what?
He said that to your face.
That's your lips.
Anyway.
I'm getting it fixed, Bobby, okay?
Get it fixed.
You know how much it is?
Fixing a smile.
There's just a jaw line.
No, no, no, it's your nerves.
The nerves are on your mouth.
You can control those.
No.
Yes.
I have X-rays. I'll show that you actually broke your jaw
I'm not making fun of your job. Your job is unfixable. No, it is flexible anyway. I
Don't know this debate. I don't know what the debates about but that's the show. That was a show. Okay. That's a good picture of you
Thanks. So anyway, I don't take that right. The birth. So I begged, I begged Tom.
I go, can you please, I'll go,
you don't even have to pay me.
That's how desperate I was.
To go what, to go before Shane good.
Yes.
Okay.
So he said yes.
And so I, okay, what's up with that, stop there.
Do you know where I am?
You're not there?
I am.
Worried. This is a fun game.
I am there.
Zoom.
Oh yeah, taking a picture right there in the corner, top left.
Yep.
With a camera up.
What?
Yep, that's me right there.
Oh my God.
It's like finding Waldo.
It's like finding Waldo.
I can spot little daddy anywhere.
Anyway, and then right next to a cigar.
Yeah.
Right, Bert, Trevor's there, and some other people.
Anyway, so I, you know, they brought me up and there was a cheer.
Of course there was.
Your biggest fear was what?
They were going to boo.
And why would they boo?
Because I'm not advertised.
So it's probably, my mind I was like, oh, there's got to be people there that don't
like me.
They didn't know I was performing.
And so then when they, I don't know,. They didn't know I was performing and so then when they I know
It's an irrational fear. I know. Yeah. Are they here?
It's an irrational so, you know, they did cheer but then oh my god, dude loved it. No when I brought up Shane
Not just louder I
Literally thought I was I was gonna like my whole body was goose goosebumps from the head of my top of my head down on my foot
They freak out it was because it's in the round
So everyone's around you so it was like so I got this guy
You know it's an Netflix dangerous dog and then people kind of went what and then and then I go
You know he got fired for SNL before he even got on the show, but now he's hosting it.
Once I said Shangyles, it was like,
it was insane.
How'd you bring him up?
That's what I said.
Everything he just said.
But I just said,
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Everything he just said before,
I was just asking.
I was wondering how,
I was wondering, wait, wait, wait,
what did you think I was saying before?
His info.
I know you say that. Do you stand up?
Yes. You do, right?
And when you bring him up, what do you say?
What do you say? Hey, this next comedian.
That's what I just did. Okay. I was looking at your head.
That's why I was like,
All right. You know what? Hi, mate.
Can I just say something to you?
Can you just concentrate? Yes
Just no, can you follow along? Yeah, I love that you're here, dude, but it's like and I love that you having me here
Why did you do a melody you okay?
How would it be here?
You know my Uber, okay, no
So um, what else happened and then And then you know, who did you
meet? Like I mean, who did I meet? Come on. You were telling me a little bit. When I was in the back,
people started flowing in. I'm in the green room. Yeah. It's just like Guy Fieri. Yeah.
Are you guys homies now? Yeah, I mean, I guess. Yeah. Then who else walked in? Then you know, a bunch of comics, Paulie, Di Stefano, Soder, Gillis obviously is on
the show.
And then Jimmy Kimmel.
Weird.
Yeah.
And then the Mexican guy that's on Jimmy Kimmel?
Oh, Guillermo.
Guillermo.
Guillermo.
Guillermo.
Guillermo.
He came up to me, hugged me, never met him before in my life.
Lives in C.O. City. That's information that I'd love to know. Thank you. Guillermo he came up to me hugged me never met before my life lives in CEO city
That's information that I love to know. Thank you
Wait, what I'm most interested in though is fun. Oh
You guys heard cool chill. I hugged him. Yeah. Yeah, and then who else and a lot of fighters like Nate Diaz
It was Nick Nick Diaz. Yeah, cuz you sent me a picture that wasn't Nate that was Nick.
There's a difference? Yeah, there's two brothers. It's a good question.
There's two brothers. Yeah, two brothers. And then this gigantic rapper who forgot
his name but every he's like the top of the exam. Gigantic guy with tattoos over
his face. Jelly Roll? Jelly Roll. Oh, Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll was there.
He smoked blood in front of my face, it's fine. Relapsed.
Yeah, not a real ass, but he was like,
what's up?
I'm Jelly Roll, right on my face.
And then once I performed afterwards,
DiStefano and I just kinda went to the after party
and walked in a circle and we both just looked at each other
and said, at the same time, I said,
should we kill ourselves? I don't know why we said that.. Wait why would you say that though? What do you mean?
Like why are you think we don't belong you know we don't belong. Kim and I have the same thing like
you know like number one nobody likes us. Weird. Weird. I know it's such a weird thing but we look at
each other. Likeable people. I know I know but we look at each other. Likeable people.
I know, I know.
We look at each other.
Are you getting the feeling that no one likes you?
He goes, me too.
I don't think no one likes it.
He goes, I know.
And so then he might, I go, what do you want to do?
He goes, double suicide?
I go, I don't know right now.
Super Bowl weekend.
Super Bowl weekend, right?
And as we go around, then we run into Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy goes, sit with us So me and Chris sat next to each other weirdest and start talking about like how we asked him I go
Do you feel like unwanted or alone in the business? He goes. Yeah
And he told us a couple of stories. I want to say stories, but he told us a couple stories. Are they here?
I move get out of here. You're now
Wait finish this though. That's it That's it. And Jimmy Kimmel.
And we talked about how we wanted to double suicide.
Anyway, thank you.
It was a great night.
Do I sit here?
Yeah, man.
Thanks for coming.
Just say stuff every once in a while.
Okay, he does have a call.
You know who these guys are?
Yeah.
Who?
Natasha.
Yeah, and who?
Her husband.
Yeah, yeah.
What's his name?
Hi.
Hello, hello.
Good to see you guys right over here.
Hello!
Hello!
Wow!
Hello!
Hello!
Yeah? Okay.
Hello! Hello! Good to see you.
I love you, buddy.
Good to see you.
How are you?
Good to see you.
So hot.
Is this your house?
Yeah, I live here.
I happen to live here.
Cool vibe.
Thanks, man.
Hi! Oh wait, this is your first time. I know, last time we were here it Cool vibe. Thanks, man. Hi, I'm trying to talk to you.
Oh, wait, this is our first time.
I know, last time we were here,
it was like in a little apartment.
They both had been on, but this is our first time
in this, this studio.
This studio's awesome.
This is what you did to the garage?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, why?
We're changing it, too.
Why?
It looks so brilliant.
You're changing it?
We do it, like, you know.
The garage was this high?
Yeah.
We didn't fucking hire it.
What the fuck are're talking about?
The first day we moved in he crashed a car through the garage. Yeah
Good good stuff, you know what you guys want to see can we do that later?
Like this Bobby can we do that later? Oh, you mean like next week or something?
No, no, no, we do it now.
We do it now.
I don't know what the fuck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's here.
It's out.
The book's out.
It's out.
Make sure to talk about it.
You want to talk about it the whole time?
No, no, no, no.
I mean, I could open with it.
You want to open with it?
No, I don't care what we do.
It's all good.
It's just good like this?
I'm tired of talking about it, to be honest with honest. Yeah, I know cuz you don't know a lot
I've done this is like the 90th conversation. I'll be having a culture culture. So we can do that's how I pronounce
Anyway, um pretty cool
But we got we brought some we brought some treats. I mean not literally but we brought some some secrets that we could play
I love secrets, but is it cold or hot?
You guys check.
She's cold.
I'm cold.
I'm keeping this on.
Put the heat on.
No, don't put it on,
because that's gonna mess up your sound.
No, Natasha Ligero's here.
Fuck it, put the heat on.
I don't know this.
I'll do it for like half the podcast.
Half it out.
You're gonna put the heat on for half the podcast?
Crazy podcast.
Is that your format?
I mean, we could do it later.
Let's do it when we start talking about the book.
I'm going to time it with the book.
I'm going to time it.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
What do you want?
Do you hear yourself?
Because you're screaming.
Am I too loud?
Is it better?
I'll go back.
It's just screaming.
That's good.
I'm sorry.
My voice is a trick.
I just need to drown out the men just a little bit.
That's kind of cool. Thank you. Anyway, um. just a little bit. That's kind of cool.
Anyway, not really the vibe.
That's not the vibe.
I know that's not the vibe, dude.
Well, God bless you and thanks for coming.
It's been a while.
We've tried to do this many times,
and there's been cancellations, and we're scheduling,
and whatnot.
But the pleasure is all mine.
I mean, you canceled some of it just to be clear.
100%.
I was not blaming you.
OK. I just wanted to make sure. That's insane what you were just doing now. Why I mean you canceled some of it just to be clear 100% Okay, I was not blaming you. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that's insane
What you were just doing now. I thought you were saying like we were trying to big time you guys and we're here
We big time each other we've been we've been camped out in my Tesla for a week waiting to do that
I haven't I've been watching the media and the social media and you've been doing everything. Yeah. Yeah, I've been hard at work
You both have acting
Acting for you
You know me I mean?
Bobby, how does it feel to be the most,
you've influenced probably more comedians?
Shut up, what are you talking about?
What the fuck were you open like that?
Great opening.
Oh, this is what, on the way over,
she said I've got this roast joke I'm gonna open.
What's that?
This is what you're talking about?
Called deflection.
No wait, do you think Bobby has influenced
a generation of comedians?
Yes, every single person you meet,
they're like, Bobby influenced me?
Every single person has a Bobby Lee story
about how they encourage them to keep doing stand-up.
Yeah, but that's not like a comedy influencer.
It's more of like a...
You're just a good guy.
Like a good guy kind of a thing.
But you also do comedy influences.
Maybe.
Anyway, I just want to give you... I just want to give you... Can I just show you? That's true. Yeah, he influenced me. Bobby did? guy kind of but you also do comedy influences maybe anyway so do you that's
true yeah he influenced me Bobby did yeah yeah to what oh man TV I was watching
as a kid I was like hey this is a funny guy that's cool do you do sketch I do
stand up so not sketch so he didn't influence you yeah yeah, Jaime, it's a sketch show?
No.
Yes.
Matt TV was funny.
I know, but he's new here, by the way.
That's high, man.
Is it a sketch?
You know it's sketch, right?
It's sketch.
Yeah, yeah.
What is sketch?
Sketch is improv.
Yep, he's right.
No, sketch is improv.
It's actually not.
The truth is, I was the first guy to say sketches in that was my
That was your quote in the book. Yeah, well, I influenced a lot of kids when I said sketches in but just aside from him
You know, they're two different things. Yeah improv is not written sketch. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
Improvies using you at information
Not to be confused with the improv where we do stand up.
Stand up, yeah.
I can understand how it's gonna be.
But the improv used to be called the improvisation.
You guys, all that matters is a two and a half minute
TikTok video for 30 seconds, right?
Oh, that's so true.
It doesn't really matter anymore.
How do you feel about that?
I'm sure it's shorter is always better.
No, but that's why she's with me.
They were saying even songs. Like songs are only now like two minutes.
Whereas like in the 70s,
there'd be songs that were 10 minutes.
Like that band, yes.
We're gonna do that.
Yes, a 50 minute fucking song.
Oh, same one like the Super Bowl ads, right?
They're shorter.
They're so short.
Do you remember when we were growing up,
did they have as much?
Hustlem tailored for our attention.
Was there as much Christ in the there wasn't
There wasn't any Christ. It wasn't enough. Of course I grew was a Christ. It was like a big Jesus day
There was a lot of Christ year. There was a little Jewish, but it was all it was very Jewish
It wasn't like be Jewish. It was like please stop beating up Jews, right?
And then there was a lot of Christ and then there was one Scientology
28 million for that one add the Jesus
It was just like a random
ad of like
Photographs of feet washing, right? And they were it was like a whole ad for Jesus
Not even a specific church. Just Jesus right feet washing. Yeah, it was like wiki wiki feet
Are you well there it is. Well, it's high.
But it was like people from different walks of life or opposite sides of the
train tracks and washing each other's feet or something like that.
Yeah.
I gotta say, I don't mind it.
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You don't mind which I like the I like the
Symbolism of feet washing oh, I see yeah, it's it feels erotic
It does it is slightly erotic, but but it's very subservient. It's like the most subservient.
You know, it doesn't it feels.
I think that's why it's erotic.
You think it's a power thing.
Yeah.
Are you a foot man?
I love him.
You're like, you think they're hot.
That's a yes.
I mean, I suck on him.
Yeah, or you think in a sexual way?
Yeah, I sucked on him.
I sucked on him one, two weeks ago and I got sick.
Really?
Oh, I love you. You got foot and mouth disease?. Really? Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got foot and mouth disease?
I think that's how I got the COVID.
Hepatite.
You got the COVID.
You didn't get COVID from a foot.
Hope and mouth disease is going around my daughter's school.
Oh, really?
Yeah, those are gnarly.
No, can I just defend myself?
I don't like your tone.
What do you mean?
Moe just doesn't like to eat.
I don't like your tone just now.
Wait, what did I do?
Like a doctor, like you can't get COVID from foot.
I don't think foot causes COVID.
I think like if that's skin, that's just chewing on skin. I know, but can doctor like you can't get COVID from foot. I don't think foot causes COVID. I think like if that's skin that's just
chewing on skin. I know but can I just say something like can COVID get on it?
Like if they sneeze into their foot? Yeah. Yeah I guess that's possible.
Theoretically then yes. I guess theoretically. Okay I'm sorry that was disrespectful of me.
I didn't realize this was such a sensitive topic. It's not a sensitive topic
it's like I throw out some information right you negated it right away
without even thinking of the throat. That's a by the, it's like I throw out some information, right? You negated it right away without even thinking of the throw. Well, that's a, by the way, that's a rule in improv, is you go no butt.
That's kind of, that's like.
No, but you can't get it that way.
I actually got pink eye two weeks ago.
From?
From a pomelo.
From what?
A pomelo?
From a pomelo.
From a pomelo?
Great for washing pillows, dude.
Of a hotel pillow?
But how do you know that's what it was from?
Yeah.
Because I woke up the next day with fun,
oh, green stuff.
Okay, let's move on.
Does this move you gross? Let's just move on.
How do we, hotels are so good.
I know, they're so good.
Want to introduce them?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, why not, why not, why not.
Well, I've known these two for a very long time
They've both individually done our podcast. Yes at the old place at the old place. We haven't been here for a while
Natasha I've known before she did stand up. You talk me into doing all right. That's true Yeah, I remember yeah, I remember we're in Los Feliz once and we were the Aaron Cater
Whatever I have. I don't know but But anyway, God bless you, Aaron.
I know where he is.
And we were, I don't know what we were doing during coffee
and you mentioned that you were gonna do it
and I don't know if I supported you,
but you started doing it.
I think you got me a gig at this place
where I could like work the door.
Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right.
And then start doing stand up
and then you'd meet me before like showcases.
Like you'd be in between shows and you were like,
hey, it sounds like you were trying to smash.
No, but he wasn't.
He wasn't.
Could I be honest with you, Wonsha?
Yeah.
He thought I was-
I'm not attracted to this woman, Wonsha.
No, no, no.
Literally, there's nothing about her.
No, no, no.
Like even, I'm sorry, I love you so much,
but I'm just, there's just certain people, I'm just not, I don't even think that way. Hey love you so much, but I'm just there's just certain people
I'm just not I don't even think that way. Hey Bobby the feelings me
I know I know I know but me I threw that out there as in like I knew the whole time Natasha was desperate to be with me
But for me it just it wasn't happy
Yeah, wait, how did you guys know each other pre-standup? How did you?
I don't know.
Bobby just knew everybody.
I remember him calling me and me being in line at the DMV
to try to get another sticker on my car.
Like he was always like,
he just kind of could sense who was down and out
and who maybe needed a little like.
No, I think I tried to like-minded people.
Yeah.
You know, I met you where I met you.
Why not where I met you?
You can say. I met you at an A meeting, I think. What? The know, I met you where I met you. Why not where I met you?
You can say.
I met you at an A meeting, I think.
What the fuck, why are you saying that?
You said I could say.
I know, but then I didn't say how I would react.
No, yeah, I'm sure you met it in the meeting.
It was like Hollywood and somewhere over there, but I knew you were a comic from SF and then
just we just kind of slowly just became friends yeah and then
you guys got married that's right yeah but Bobby you have always a font of
wisdom by the way you haven't introduced us yet
Moshe Cashier and Natasha Ligero. Thank you.
They live in the East Side. Bobby told me once don't believe the good reviews
because then you'll believe the bad reviews.
He said, you're not really anyone
until people start talking shit about you.
He said, make sure to make them laugh
before you start talking on stage.
Great advice.
Yeah, that's a good advice.
Listen, it's so funny, I can give advice,
but I can't, you can't receive it?
Not okay, but those things I just told you
are things I say, but I don't apply it to my own life.
That's, you know, I'm like, oh my God,
I read that comment, I'm a fucking lose,
I'll kill myself, you know what I mean?
Can I tell you some wisdom she gave me?
Yeah, absolutely, please.
And early in our relationship,
I would spend like, you know, 12 hours
arguing with like, just a complete, like a stranger.
And I thought, I was like, I would tell her like,
oh, it's part of my- Anyone would have given him this. like I would tell her like oh it's part of my anyone would have given him this and I was like
it's part of my comedy brand people like watching me go back and forth with like
an actual like literally just some kid child in Iowa on stage or online online
back and forth all day and I'd be like stewing on it and I wouldn't be present
in our relationship and I'd be like hold on a second writing this like screed that
I thought was so clever that wow
I mentally bested somebody that's like fucking working at a pick-and-pull in Montana. Yeah. Yeah, and she was just like
Why are you wasting your life on people that you don't know and it like opened my mind up?
It was like it was like a spear into my brain
I haven't looked I basically don't ever look at the comments anymore and it's all because of her
But do you get negative ones? I don't know could be but did you before yeah sure?
I always would more engage with people back and forth, and I think that's something that some people do
I've never done it. You probably don't do it right now. I they tell me not to do you read them. I can't anymore
No, it's too painful. No, I mean I read them no like oh especially me. No, I should stay away
Yeah, I get it it's just poison.
It's a volunteering to drink poison.
It's cutting.
Yeah.
It's a form of cutting.
Oh, it's cutting, that's a really interesting idea.
She actually called one of her trolls, they interviewed him.
I find that whole thing to be usually disappointed.
But that's what he wanted, isn't that a success for him?
How was it?
He turned out that he didn't dislike me at all.
He maybe disliked the fact that his girlfriend was really into me, and he turned out that he didn't dislike me at all. He maybe disliked the fact that his girlfriend
was really into me.
And he turned out to be a really nice guy, a sweetheart.
Weird.
And he couldn't really explain why he had said the things
he said, and mind you, he had been harassing me
for a long time.
Interesting that Troll wasn't that articulate when playing.
I would have been funny if he had been so sweet
and admitting what he did wrong
and then you're like, well,
it was really cool to connect with you as a human.
He's like, yeah, you too, buy
and then immediately open your phone.
He's just like,
I just look back to business.
But that, I think that's probably
what would have happened or you know what I mean?
But he stopped, right?
I would assume.
I mean, I don't know.
He probably has like five other burner accounts.
I mean, there is, I don't think that people,
they're not who they are on the internet.
They have some weird, altered version of themselves.
Like the ugliest version of themselves can exist there,
but in real life, when you walk around,
people aren't inherently this way,
or at least I don't wanna believe that.
I think people are becoming more and more inherently this way,
because the internet and real life
is becoming slowly fused.
And I don't think there's a separation as much.
Disagree?
But you know how in this, I'll go ahead.
Go ahead, no please.
Well in the 70s, everyone smoked
because we didn't quite know it was bad for us.
Like maybe now we all check our comments and get involved
because we just don't know how toxic it is.
But now it's like, you know, more people, you know,
hurt themselves and go crazy and get depressed maybe that's
something we'll have more boundaries for the next generation.
I do think that there is an uptick in really really sad angry boys and that's
what's really scary. Like I get women and they go and women talk shit to you.
Not only that they literally go when are you why aren't you dead yet? Oh well.
What? No yeah. I get the same. I know why don't you kill yourself like yeah? I get them all the time from women really?
Oh, yeah, yeah kill yourself kill yourself and it's like what and then I go out in the world
I've never gotten anyone and no one's ever come up to me say
yourself
I wish they would because I'd be like then I can have a maybe you know me
I'm you know a very mindful kind of like
Nonvolatile kind of conversation like why do you want me dead or whatever?
Right, but they don't want you dead.
None of that, it doesn't happen.
It's all love.
And I walk around and it's all love and it's like,
and I read all these negative things and I'm like,
oh, they're two different worlds I live in.
And one of them isn't real.
It's not real.
Oh, the internet. Yes. I think that it is, I actually think it is real.
And I think... What do you mean? Well, Israel is what I wanted to talk about this in time.
We finally got to bring it up. I was thinking about this the other day. You remember like 20 years ago in stand-up
there was like a certain kind of road comic that had a particular joke that they would do a bunch of, usually an older guy like a dad comic,
and he'd be like, I heard about this cyberbullying.
I got a tip to stop being cyberbullied, log off.
Ha ha ha ha.
Right, and I remember watching that going,
oh, this guy doesn't understand
that there is no log off for young people,
that young people's brains are getting,
they've had the internet downloaded into their existence.
And like, for you and me and us, we're of a certain age
where we straddled the universes of when the internet existed
and when it didn't, so for us it's like it isn't real.
But I think for young people, there is no log off.
We are online socialization, real world socialization,
it's all one mess.
They literally can't, they literally
can't.
But they know how to log off and go do something.
I mean they can literally.
And that might become more of a trend in the future.
I would love to see like nature children, but what I'm saying.
How long are you gonna keep technology away from your child?
Oh well she's got a really popular TikTok.
No you're really?
No, no.
I'm pretty serious about it. You've just got an only thing.
We have boundaries.
We have boundaries.
I'm pretty serious about keeping her away from things and I think that I would make some
pretty big sacrifices to try to make that happen and I do feel like I have very, very
few friends who agree with me.
So how?
I think people are just like, we're just going to give in, let's surrender, this is life,
it's going to be part of there who they are anyway
Whereas I get that side of it
But I just disagree in motion I get in fights a lot because of how
Parallels I find the phone and he's like that that's not reality. Does she have a phone now? No, how does she now?
She's six right. So what's the age 12? Yeah, what you get the phone? What would you want to give?
I don't know what's gonna happen in the world.
We might decide in two years that this is worse
than smoking for children.
And maybe it'll get banned, I don't know.
What, the internet?
Possibly, I don't know.
I don't think they're gonna ban them.
It'll get worse.
It's gonna get so much worse.
Do you remember that there was a documentary on Netflix?
I can't remember what it's called,
the social dilemma, maybe that was called,
where it was like describing these algorithmic sort of
like polarization that's happening in society.
And it's like, it's gonna lead to this, this and this.
And everybody watched it and was like,
whoa, this is perilous, this is scary.
And or some people were like, I already knew this, whatever.
But then it's now seven years later
since the documentary came out,
the exact thing that it was predicting is happening in real time and no one has
made a behavioral adjustment like whatsoever we're all basically people in
the street getting mad yeah but I disagree with you I've made it yeah I've
made some judgments about myself and change my behavior me too I got off
Instagram yeah so individually you can totally I know people that have and we
realize that it's like,
and I don't even know if I'm behind
if it's our generation, you know what I mean?
And is it Gen Zers that are like completely,
I think that at one point,
there's no, I don't think there's a way to be happy
and then, and still live that way.
I think there's gonna be a bottom,
I think there's gonna be a point where they're gonna be like,
why am I so depressed?
Why do I wanna kill myself and all that stuff? And then they're gonna have all that stuff and then they're gonna have to look through their phones for the answers
But they're gonna think the things you know like I remember I was so depressed during the pandemic and people were like
Oh my god your pictures you're having such a great time. It's making me feel so insecure and I'm like, oh, I'm like so depressed
My pictures look like I'm not so it is that kind of vicious circle
You're looking at the people that are jealous of you going, oh, their life seems so cool.
But they're jealous of me, but it's not a real picture.
I airbrushed it.
Right.
We just got into a fight right before we took it in.
No, we've got a guy in Boyle Heights,
we take all our pictures for the airbrushes.
I'm just saying, like, it's all fake.
It's all fake.
The evidence is in that the internet,
specifically for young women, is,
but for everybody, is terrible, causes
depression, causes suicidal ideation.
It's all in.
We already know the information.
The same thing is true with like trying to be famous.
We already know that trying to be famous is bad for the human psyche, and yet it's the
only thing anybody thinks.
Why do we do it then?
Because we're like drug addicts.
I mean that's what I think of when I think of what you're saying about technology and parenting is you have to imagine, parenting is so difficult and time consuming and the kid requires so
much of your attention and it's like being a heroin addict.
It's like there is an instant solution which is to put the phone in their face and you're
no longer, everything's good now.
It's awesome.
Wow.
And so then you have to go,
you have to be a heroin addict.
All you want is to fix.
And the heroin is literally in your pocket.
And you have to make a decision,
instead of doing heroin, I'm gonna do sit-ups.
Like that's your choice.
And furthermore, your parents who are like 75, 80,
are also addicted and have the exact same addiction as you.
I would say my mom is far more addicted to her phone than I am.
It's crazy.
So they're bad, everyone's just helping you, the nannies,
everyone's just staring at a phone while they're watching your kids.
The worst part with old people is that they are unfamiliar with the idea
that just because it's in print doesn't mean it's real.
Right.
They go, well, the front line must have written this article.
I'm gonna let an article, an article, it doesn't, and they just think it's real. Right. They go, oh, Walter Cronkite must have written this article. I've gotta let an article, an article.
It doesn't, and they just think it's real.
Anything my mom says these days,
like we just joke around the house,
like, you know, source Facebook.
Like that's her, everything is gospel.
If it's written in print, it's gospel.
It must be the truth.
And that's really scary.
I don't know how cell phone technology works,
but can I, let me ask you something.
Yeah.
It has something to do with the satellite up there, right? Oh
Yeah, right it goes bounces back. Don't look at me like that. I don't know. Why do I know how do I know?
But is it yeah, is that what it is sounds familiar?
No, but the what I'm saying is if we destroy that satellite all the satellites. How many are there?
Oh, there's just Verizon have one and fucking team model and let's not forget cancer is up in all ages and no one knows why
It's that so I'm saying if it is that we find that out. Maybe it'll self fix
There's self guys suggesting that we impose a digital Bronze Age on ourselves
It's not gonna. I think everybody would like it. It does that's it does if we destroy the satellites what they're sick
Let's just say there's six of them. Okay, all right more than sick way more than six a hundred okay?
Is that better for you in this analogy now? I can understand
If there's a way to do it right right what would happen lately day one after the destruction what would happen chaos?
Well, we would still have have the internet, I think.
That'll take some.
No, we won't.
We won't.
We've never seen that.
I don't know.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Source?
Yeah, you ever seen Planet of the Apes?
Boom!
He got you!
That's it.
We'll watch it.
We'll watch it.
We'll watch it.
What do you mean?
I just recently saw, what do you fucking mean?
Which Planet of the Apes?
Oh yeah. There's no one coming out. The Charleston Houston one. Have you seen the one that's coming out? Yeah. I saw I just recently saw what do you fucking mean? Which planet the apes the oh, yeah
What was the house in Houston one? Have you seen the one that's coming out? Yes?
Yes, coming out. I saw the Super Bowl ad for it. Yeah, yeah, which one are you talking about though?
James Franco. Yeah, that yes. I saw those ones. So what do you mean? I?
Don't know. Okay. Let's move on. I have a question Bobby
What changes have you made in your life that you're saying individually you said you made changes with the Bobby. What changes have you made in your life that you're saying?
Individually, you said you made changes with the internet.
What changes have you made?
Here's what, number one, I'm no longer on Twitter.
Yeah.
While I was hacked.
It's like, you can't get back on that.
He was forced out of it.
I was forced out of it.
That's a beautiful gift from the universe, though.
It was such a gift.
Yeah.
I didn't realize it.
But I haven't been on it a year and a half, two years.
I don't even know how to get on it. I haven't looked at it. Okay, so that's one number two is
because
You know whenever I go to therapy on Thursdays that Thursday my therapist and all my pain and all I talk about our comments and direct messages
Right, right, and she was just basically like we can't do this anymore
So I haven't been doing it. You haven't been going to therapy or you haven't been looking
just basically like we can't do this anymore so I haven't been doing it. You haven't been going to therapy or you haven't been looking at it?
Both.
No, I, I, no, I, um.
We can't do this anymore.
I need to stop seeing you, Bobby.
Yeah, and so Saturday night I was in Vegas and after the show I was sitting there with
Krista Stefano at a bar and I was looking at, for some reason I just got back, just
looking at comments because I just performed, you some reason I just got back at just looking at comments
Because I just performed no one's you know, I mean right and then I got one I got you know
I mean I fucking hate you from a girl right and then it just brought my mood down so everyone's well
I'll read it. I'll get completely depressed and I'll go you know what dude come on dude that you you ask for that
So don't do it or take your own advice that until people start talking shit
To you you really haven't made it yet. I think that is I honestly because I did when I did Rogan like three weeks ago
the uptick of
Negative went up a thousand percent. Oh for a week when I do Rogan. I just I this is he expects that
I just don't look for I wait three weeks and
I don't notice what happened some people if people like me they'll they'll DM I still look at my DM
I shouldn't say that but
And but like I just won't look yeah, what do I need it for?
It's like it's going to a poison well and taking like a sip of water
I already knew was rotten I already knew what was waiting for me there.
And why am I doing this to myself?
So the first time you did Rogan,
you probably made a mistake a little bit.
Oh yeah, I was like, oh, this is exciting.
And I was like, well, yeah, I am Jewish.
Oh, you know.
But yeah, I just, there are certain universes
that I kind of know, like when I do it,
I'm not necessarily trying to win over the people
that I know think I'm a beta-cuck bitch.
I'm trying to get the people that would be interested
in my book or in my upcoming show or whatever.
And I just will ignore it for a while.
But you don't.
You do.
I do what?
Yeah, you ignore it.
He's an impulsive person.
I'm trying to.
It's hard to make some.
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Which is I need to
Convince you. Oh, you need you want me to go back. I want you to come back. He wants you to come Do you want me? Why do you want me to come back?
What don't you want to come back? They're talking about a a okay? This is good answer a question of the question
No, I'll answer to you. No, I'll answer. I'll answer.
I can answer too.
Bless you.
Bless you.
Okay.
Because I think that when I'm just speaking for my own self.
Yeah.
Okay.
By the way, can I say this before you answer?
What?
I think it's it touches me that you want me to.
I don't ever think I'm never feeling insulted by it. I feel like really a warm feeling when you tell me you want me to I don't ever think I'm never feeling insulted by it I
feel like really a warm feeling when you tell me you want me to come because I
feel a warm feeling when you tell me you want me to come because I'm always just
about to bust yeah because I realize it's not about me yeah it's not about my I
have so many problems with the program yeah maybe he thinks that you need it I
know is that he needs it I think what needs who needs it or the people that he could save oh
You wanted so by you getting out of a a you are now not saving anyone well
I mean to me not available. You're not available to be a tool for God to be honest with you that is
There are two things that I really miss about being actively in the program
There are two things that I really miss about being actively in the program
I'll tell you to number two afterwards But but the the biggest one is what you're talking about
I feel like my life although I have a child and that really takes a giant part of that which is like she is the
Person that I'm there to try to teach and help and and bring into the world and along with Natasha
I mean, I'm not teaching you. I'm that's our job together
But that part of my life where it's like
I have this mission in life to help people,
that's missing in my life in a way that is really melancholy
and sad for me because that was such a giant part of my life
for such a long time, feeling like I had a use outside
of like my career and my ego and like my own personal needs, I miss having that.
Was it a conscious decision to leave AA?
It was a slow and arduous, very difficult decision.
And this maybe I've never explained to you, Bobby.
And it's what I write about in the book.
And I had a lot of misgivings about even writing this chapter
because I didn't want to be this poisonous seed in somebody's mind because I was big in AA.
I wasn't just sober, I was like a little boy king of AA.
I was flowing around the country.
It's where I started comedy really,
before my first open mic.
Really, you too?
Is that right?
Yeah, I did a men's meeting when I was 22,
not men's meeting, it was called
La Jolla speaker meeting on Saturday night.
It was a Mount Soledad and it was like a huge meeting
and they asked me to be the eight minute speaker.
And is that when you realized you could make people laugh?
I killed.
And it's before you did stand up?
Yeah.
That is so cute, you couldn't do that.
Like one time, I know one joke I did was,
it's like hundreds and hundreds of people. And there there was a big book on this like podium and it fell
Right and I and I went to pick it up and I I stayed down for like 45 seconds
And I finally brought it on I got it you know me and got a huge
Be like as if I was like down there like in a well or something like I just took my instincts
Yeah instincts on it and then I remember after that meeting somebody went you I've been watching you speak at meetings
And you got to try it. Oh, I stand up. Yeah. Yeah, so that's so fascinating. That's same with you
It's true for me, too. I mean it wasn't his direct a connection. Nobody was like you do stand up
Yeah, because I still don't but anyway, um, I
Yeah, because I still don't but anyway um
But I I Was like this guy that would be flown over because I got sober very young
I got sober and I was 15 and I got out of rehab for the third time at 15
And and I went to a young people's meeting and I was the youngest person in the young people's meeting by at least five years
For the first five years I was sober so I had this like mascot energy for a long time. All these old people were like oh we're so proud of you and
then I'd like I started to take on that role and it just became this, I became a
fundamentalist. I became- So for you AA it's like shedding old skin. I wouldn't say
it quite like that like it became my religion and I really fully believed in
it like I was hardcore and I was more hardcore I I think than you, Bobby. I think, I-
Probably.
I don't mean that like as an insult.
I think it's a more mature relationship to 12 Steps in AA
to like have a struggle with it.
But I was so young, I didn't have the intellectual fortitude
to struggle, to go, I don't know what I believed.
I believed everything and I was in.
And then fast forward, like 15 years, I was 30 years old
and I was sober for a long time and I started to have these like little this little
seed of doubt. I mean it started like it started with a positive spiritual kind
of desire to change. I was this person that was I was super judgmental and
super hardcore about AA and I would always tell people what to do and I wanted to like change that because I
could, I could feel myself alienating the people around me and I went to this guy,
this like hippie sponsor and I was like can you help me change my judgment of
other people and he goes well what would it be like if you never commented on
another person's behavior ever and it sent a chill down my spine like I thought
children will die.
The kids are gonna die.
If I'm not there, the kids will die.
And he goes, just ask yourself this question,
does it need to be said?
Does it need to be said by me?
Does it need to be said now?
And so I started doing this spiritual experiment
of keeping my mouth shut.
And I would, at first, I would see things that were wrong
and I would go, I'd be about to say something
and I'd like look at my hippie sponsor and he'd like shake his dreadlocks, no, and I would, at first, I would see things that were wrong, and I would go, I'd be about to say something, and I'd look at my hippie sponsor,
and he'd shake his dreadlocks, no, and I would stop,
and I'd go, okay, these kids are gonna die.
And then six months went by,
and I would see the behavior, I'd be like, that's wrong,
but I don't need to say anything,
but I know that person's gonna die without,
it's not my business.
And then six more months went by,
and I looked at the behavior, and I was like,
oh, it's not wrong anymore.
I don't even care anymore.
I don't wanna say it anymore.
So that was a giant spiritual- This is a nice speech. You could be telling Bobby's a
Help some of these kids
Yeah problem was that experiment of changing myself and softening myself and realizing I didn't know everything
It started to be this little it was the beginning of this little thread that got pulled in that fundamentalism and
I realized like if one thing I didn't believe wasn't true,
then it started to kind of unravel and the whole thing started to feel like maybe none of it's true or maybe some of it's true.
What's that?
No, keep going.
Is it too long?
No, I love it.
No, okay.
I think he's saying too late.
But your thought processes is like, I relate to go ahead.
Like the unraveling, that's depressing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're basically saying the other things.
Yeah, I understand what you, yeah.
But the problem wasn't AA.
The problem was my fundamentalism in it.
When you're a fundamentalist, it means all of it has to be true or none of it is true.
And if I could, I had, I had the same exact thoughts you did until I relapsed.
Right.
I hear you.
Okay.
And you haven't done that.
I don't want you to do it.
Was that recently?
Oh yeah.
I did it a couple of times.
Right.
Yeah.
So in the last time I did it.
You realized how important it is to have them there.
It's not that we just that.
You know, I got sober when I was 17 like you.
In fact, yeah, um, you know, I stayed sober for 13 years after that.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then I went out that states over 17 went out a couple of times.
But those last time I went out, none of those things really mattered to me.
What I was like, oh, I'm going to die.
Right. And I don't know how to stop.
And it's always, it always was true what A was saying,
which I didn't even realize.
I mean, you do realize it,
but when you're actually in the behavior,
it's like, oh, fuck, it is a disease.
I can't stop.
There's nothing I can do.
I'm in this fucking hole, right?
And so this last time that I got sober,
I was just like, I just have to just show up, right?
And helps listen to somebody else.
And I ask questions and I go,
what do I need to do to stay here?
And I'm just like, like I did when I was a kid,
just following direction from my sponsor,
although I should call them more often,
but it's like, you know, and I realized that
I gotta help other people because
when I'm not doing that Moshe, I'm so miserable.
Because of this business too.
Yeah.
But are you saying that like,
if you're not this like fundamentalist about it,
if you're not black and white or all in,
that you will relapse?
Are you somebody who relapses?
I mean, all those thought processes,
it's just all like, I don't even wanna think that way.
It's just like, I'm gonna stay sober, simplicity.
I'm gonna stay sober today, right now, right?
I'm gonna do a little prayer.
I'm gonna show up to this meeting,
even if I don't wanna go, right?
And I wanna just see what happens.
I just can't even get go there.
But let me say, I love A.A.
I love you.
No, I love you too, but I love you.
No, can I just say, I love catching the COVID virus from a toe. Like that's something that I love AA. I love you. No, I love you too. I love you. I love you.
No, can I just say I love catching the COVID virus from a toe.
Like that's something that I love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I love AA.
This isn't, I'm not an anti-AAA person.
It saved my life.
There's no question in my mind that it saved my life.
I got friends that are dead.
I got friends that are in prison over relapses and over never getting sober.
I still live my life according to the principles I learned in AA.
There's no part of me that's like thumbing my fist, shaking my at AA and going that's bullshit. I'm glad I got parents who've recently died from overdoses
I do yeah, I had a dear a dear friend that was sober for a long time that it was decided not to be anymore
that's dead and
recently and
This isn't about being anti-AA at all
This is was really my journey was really about like what true for me, and what was true for me was
I would go to meetings and I would be more agitated
when I left them than when I got there.
Give me a favor.
Come this Wednesday.
Oh!
Well here's the thing, do you believe?
Just come this Wednesday.
No, I'm curious, do you believe?
I'm not afraid.
Thank God.
I'm not afraid either.
You're afraid of me, and I always, you were terrified.
Although the other night, the last time I saw you perform,
I had a difficult time following you.
Oh, Bobby.
And I told her I go, you're on fire.
Well, welcome to the club.
That's part of your drama, Bobby.
True, true.
You always have to have some crazy reason that nothing's,
that's what propels you.
What do you mean, stop, hold on, what the fuck, what the fuck?
You always like, you're like, you're like John Belushi.
You know, like how he would like tell everyone,
he's like, oh, I didn't work on my lines,
I'm gonna fucking eat it.
It's annoying.
And then he'd get up on stage and be like, yeah!
That's how it works! That's how it works! And then he gets then he'd get up on stage and be like, yeah! That's how it was.
That's how it was.
And then he gets like,
and all the other castmates were like,
oh damn, I didn't even try that hard
because I felt bad for him,
but he was actually a kid.
That's sick right on the,
that is bullseye Natasha.
It's not bullseye.
I'll tell you, the day he did MGM with Bert and Tom
over the weekend for Super Bowl.
And he was before, he was like, oh my god.
Right, oh no, the home.
Exactly. He was in the fetal position. Fuck you. He was before, he was like, oh my God. Right, oh no, the whole, exactly.
He was in the fetal position.
He was like, they're gonna boomy, they're gonna boomy.
And sure enough, he doesn't get booed
and then the text after that, later that night.
Please, if you say this out loud,
we're ending the podcast, you no longer my host.
That's a private test between you and I.
You're gonna be no longer my host
and I may never even talk to you over again.
Edit it out.
No, no, you cannot say it.
I cannot have them here, a private text.
I don't think they'd be surprised.
I already know what the text is.
I already know because I already know what it is.
If you tell them, why don't you tell us?
There we go.
You own the power in this room.
Yeah, grab it.
But could I say, because it's just a,
I only said it to bother her.
Okay.
All right. Interesting. I didn't because it's just a it was I only said it to bother her. Okay. All right
It wasn't something that was gonna be said out loud. Yeah, it was just I know this is gonna bother her
Don't forget the all caps part. Okay. Okay. What do you say? What are you saying? I'm so famous
All it's thinking
You are famous and that was after the oh my god
I'll let it sink in. You are famous.
And that was after the, oh my god, I'm gonna bomb.
I'm gonna bomb, they're gonna hate me.
What made you feel, that's such a funny reaction.
It's not, it went really well, I killed so hard,
it was like, what happened?
You walked out and people screamed a lot?
Well, it's actually followed by a video of himself.
The way you said it, what?
I'm so famous was followed by,
you sent me a video of the crowd going wild
when they brought you out.
And then followed by, I'm so famous.
Okay, I don't want that out there.
You see how gross?
But he might be saying it to say
that's the only reason why he did well.
You know, it's still like self-evident.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, Natasha, man, I say, you're my inner voice, dude.
Thank you so much for that.
So I always say about you, that you'll get off stage
and have just crushed.
By the way, you're hard to follow.
No, no, but there are different types of communities.
And the Bobby will come off stage having crushed
and go, ah, they sucked.
Yeah.
Well, is it better to be that guy,
or like, ah, then go, I killed?
Yeah.
Which guy would I rather be?
They're both annoying, but which one would you want me to be?
It's interesting. It's like a psychological profile.
Which direction would you like to be delusional in?
I guess I would rather be...
I would rather not be bragging to people.
I would rather get off stage having just eaten shit and been like,
that went pretty well. That felt good.
I think that's called the Dunning-Kruger effect, right, George?
Why do you always look at Mayweather? It's thinking you're a lot better than you are. Well, that felt good. I think that's called the Dunning Kruger effect, right, George? You're doing...
Why do you always look at me with that?
It's thinking you're a lot better than...
No, I call the George Kimmel effect.
It's called the Planet of the Apes effect.
I always think that I'm doing worse than I am.
Yeah, always.
Thank you.
That's what I'm doing.
I think so.
But not everybody does that.
Moshe doesn't do that.
Yes, he does.
After my... Okay, so you want to perform me
I'm telling you you know you slaughtered in the main. It was a good set. You know you did right?
Yeah, it was good when I told you that you're like, ah, you brushed me by well because I knew because it's so that you're doing
The fucking same thing. No, I was filtering it through the information that I know about you
Which is that you were like thinking, what about me?
No, it wasn't.
You said, I don't know how to get,
what am I gonna do now?
I'm like, Bobby, you're one of the strongest comedians
I know, I think you're gonna be okay,
and then you get up and you start crushing.
No, but you're making me mad.
Why, what are you?
You're both gonna make me mad.
You're both gonna make me mad.
You're both gonna make me mad.
You're making me mad, okay?
I'm never going back to AA,
no matter what you say right now.
No, I got an offer for you.
Okay. Yeah. I have an offer for you. Okay.
Yeah.
What?
What I'm saying is that I feel like you guys do the same thing
in your own way.
I think probably everybody does that.
Everyone does it in their own way.
And honestly, it puts a cringe down my spine
when I say that out loud.
Even when I'm like, oh, I'm not gonna do well and I do well, it's gross.
And I am well aware of it.
I think it's more like you're, it's self-protecting.
Right, right, right.
If you say it's gonna go bad and it goes,
you can only win.
You can either be right or you want, or you,
who cares, fuck it, let's just move on.
All right, I got an offer.
What's an offer?
I'll go to your meeting with you for six months
if you record a special, our special. Yeah, I'm gonna do one. Oh damn it
Oh wait, you're already booked. I mean I'm talking to people right now get talked in a bit. All right
She wants me to go so bad. Well, here's the one thing. I I'm not this is true
I haven't been to meeting in
Seven years. Yeah, I'm not miserable or crazy. You're not I
Already told you it's not about you. No, no, I feel you on that that's a good point
I think you have a lot of time. Oh, and I need people right
I mean with time at that meeting because I have a lot of newcomers
I don't believe in in some of the fundamental principles of the program either do why so how do you I found this experience?
Really you have more authority because you've been sober for so long
But I I'm up. I feel like I'm a poisonous message in a because these things that a is just so like unshakable that they
They're unwilling to change or make these changes
Um, I want to move on from it. I don't you know, I mean, I don't people want to hear an a hour fucking
I know but who makes those decisions like hey, hey, we're going to change this part about this thing.
Nobody.
It's like, who makes the decisions and changing religions?
Right.
That's what it is.
It happens slowly.
It's etched in the stomach.
It probably just branch off and start another relationship.
It happens slowly, and it happens culturally
over a long period of time.
And honestly, and yeah, we can move on.
Honestly, one reason.
Yeah, we brought them some secrets, honey.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
I don't want to force you to go, I'm just saying saying that like you just want on a big platform to publicly pressure me
No, I move on yeah, okay one of the secrets one of the secrets
Oh, well we have a podcast the endless honeymoon podcast and people call in and leave their deepest darkest secrets
Yeah, you were guys came on you right we. And we wanted to maybe play some secret.
Oh, you want to play a secret?
And maybe hear what you guys think about it.
It's a secret between who?
They call in, we have a secrets hotline,
and people call in and they leave their deep dark secrets
on our secrets hotline.
Okay.
And there it is.
Okay, there we are with who is it?
Wait, we're...
Oh, Esther!
Oh, that's Donna Pemberton and Esther and look at us
when we're Frenching. All right, Iton, an Esther and a little girl from French.
All right, I think you might like this one.
Okay.
You want a dirty one?
Yeah, I love dirties.
Okay, okay.
All right, let's see here.
This is the endless honeymoon podcast,
Natasha and Moshe.
Yeah.
Shah.
Okay.
Moshe.
Natasha and Moshe.
Okay.
How do you pronounce your last name, Natasha?
Legerro.
Legerro, yeah. Do you know how to pronounce either of my names, Moshe or Cas. How do you pronounce your last name Natasha? Legerro.
Legerro.
Yeah.
Do you know how to pronounce either of my names Moshe or Kassher?
Yeah.
It's too late I let it go.
Okay.
Ice.
Here we go.
Here we go.
You're just going to play it like that?
Well, how else?
Okay.
We'll send you the file.
If this bit kills, we'll send you the file.
Hey, Tosh.
Can you hear that?
Yeah. send you the file. Did you hear that?
Yeah.
I have a secret.
About 3D, a little less than three years ago, I started just randomly waking up with my
neck cramping really bad and didn't think it was a big deal, didn't think anything of
it at first. But it very quickly started getting worse.
And I was having tightness in my throat
to the point where I was having trouble following.
And more and more foods were too hard for me.
Then all of a sudden, I got to a day
where it was so bad that I literally couldn't get anything
down except for liquid. I had already been to the doctor, and I was like, all right, I have to figure out what's wrong here.
So I tried to think what had changed recently and it hit me that shortly before my next problem had started,
I had bought myself, or the first time ever, a pocket flippy and I became instantly addicted.
I use it every day, usually several times and we're not talking quick easier.
I was using it excessively.
So I thought maybe it's a problem for a couple of days.
I did and sure enough, I felt better and then so I wouldn't be tempted.
I just chucked it and within the next month or two, I was 100% back normal.
And now to this day, I have family members who will ask me,
oh, what do you think happened?
What was it that caused your neck problem?
And I have to pretend I don't know
because I can't tell them that it was actually
because I was jerking off too hard.
Okay.
I know you probably have never had a pocket pussy, right?
I have all of them.
You, do you really?
Yeah, he's got like the model from like seven times.
Every brand, every electrical brand.
He has a homemade one from a Pringles can.
Yeah, I think of Pringles cans.
Yeah.
You know they call that in prison, they call it Fifi.
Yeah, I have Fifis.
Oh, is that like high level contraband?
Like that like goes for a lot in prison?
What I remember you would do in rehab they would teach you to
You would this is old school before they created the vibratory ones you would get a surgical glove
You would put Vaseline in it and then warm it in hot water and then you would take the thin mattress of a rehab fold it into
Take the the surgical glove over the fold and then fuck the mattress. Similar concept with a Pringles.
Yeah, same, yeah.
Yeah, surgical mattress is very important.
You just add the sponge.
Oh, we have sponges around it.
We have two, like, dish sponges.
Hey, why are you so involved?
You shouldn't have this information.
You're like involved in the architecture of it.
I've done videos on showing how people see it.
He's showing it for him.
He's done DIYs on this.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like a laser in my brain.
Is it a known thing about you.
Oh, what's it mean?
A known thing.
Well, you guys, yeah, you have multiples.
Do you use them regularly?
What?
The pocketposes.
I have a new thing.
And it's a new thing.
What is I mean, the future.
Don, his contraptions are like, it's a new thing.
What is it?
You want to tell us?
I know what it is.
AI.
No, it's not.
What do you mean?
AI, like a robot, a robot.
It's not that expensive. What I have mean AI? Like a robot up there? Like a fucking robot. No, no, no, no.
It's not that expensive.
What I have now is a ring.
I can go up there and bring it down, but it's...
I'm good.
What do you mean?
Yeah, what do you mean?
Why don't you see the thing that Bobby just talked about?
You don't have to touch it.
Because I know Bobby when he's explaining
he's gonna wanna get, he's gonna wanna show it.
No, I'm not gonna show how, I could use my finger anyway,
but my point is this.
Okay, what do you do? It's a ring? he's gonna want to show. No, I'm not gonna show how, I could use my finger anyway, but my point is- Okay, what do you do?
It's a ring?
Is it rubbery?
It's like a little ring.
And it's like a rubbery ring.
And on the, like, imagine, you know who,
what's the guy's name from The Avengers?
Hawkeye.
The bad guy.
Oh.
With the gloves.
Oh, Thanos.
Thanos, right?
You know how big his fingers are?
It's like, it looks like something that he would wear like a wedding ring or whatever
Right, I mean or a promise ring. It's just a cock ring. It's a cock ring, but but no it's more than a cock ring
What does it do? I don't vibrate. Yes, but it's also it's got little buttons on it
We don't call it that let me finish okay. So there's one setting where it goes like,
I'm gonna just do the sound.
Okay.
Okay.
That's like main sound.
All the way through, there's no breaks on it.
The second sound is,
really hard.
That really fucking burns.
Yeah.
Right, your eyes go back.
Ah, you know what I mean, right?
Then the third one's even more powerful.
Right?
But then it goes into rhythms.
Oh, interesting. I mean, I imagine bongo drums, you know? Electric Daisy. And then it goes into rhythms. Oh, interesting.
I mean, like a match of bongo drums, you know?
Electric Daisy Pond.
And does it have, like, do you have to move it,
or you just set it on your dick?
So here's what you're supposed to,
I don't know why I'm gonna explain this.
This is the penis, okay?
Okay.
Scout's honor.
Mine's.
And so this thing is supposed to go on the bottom.
Right.
For the clitoris.
That's not what I do, baby. Right, you don't care about the clitoris. You just found out about it. Yeah, for the clitoris. That's not what I do, baby.
Right, you don't care about the clitoris.
You just found out about it.
Yeah, about the clitoris?
Yeah, this year I heard.
Yeah.
I didn't have it, I didn't know what it was called,
but now I'm on the clitoris.
But now what I want to do is I wrap it on the head, right?
On a lower frequency.
Then I use my hand on the bottom.
You just put your hand on the shaft.
On the shaft of it. So the top is vibrating, but hand on the bottom. You just put your hand on the shaft. On the shaft of it.
So the top is vibrating, but I have the motion.
And you also put a little bit of lube, it's waterproof.
A little bit, so it doesn't hurt, like scrape or...
And do you think it's safer in terms of neck injuries?
I think what he's doing is like...
I feel like he might have been eating out the pumpkin pussy. Yeah, I bought a pumpkin pussy to is like whiplash. Eating out the baka pussy.
Yeah, I bought a baka pussy to learn how to eat pussy.
It was hours a day.
My mom used to will still clean Bobby's house.
And I've had to very explicitly tell her,
like those things that you see in his bathroom,
his bedroom, do not touch them.
She was like, oh, I've been cleaning them meticulously.
Oh, that's why I love her.
She's like, I love Pringles.
I didn't know that they were just.
She just didn't know what they were.
So she'd be cleaning his pocket pussies.
And I was like, Ma, you can't touch that.
That's disgusting.
I kind of want to come to go down and bring some of them down.
Yeah, you should.
I want to see you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to just come up.
Let me just bring some of them.
Also, boundaries, your mom's cleaning his house.
Yeah, she's like, Bobby. I think you need to hire a
Someone new and he's like no
Bobby's like I refuse, you know, yeah, it's it's a whole thing I got one once from a comedy festival
They like gave us a flashlight the flashlight and I tried it and I thought this is absurd
Like I don't understand why I needed equipment for this thing
I've been doing so well for so long on my own and did you you love it? No, it just felt like, I guess, but I wasn't doing,
sounds like Bobby's taken the technology to another level.
Well also it seems more clean to not have like jizzing
in this like deep dark tennis can.
Right.
And you know he's just not someone
who's gonna do like aftercare on his pocket pussies.
Oh you think it's like crusted up?
Oh my God, yeah.
Oh really?
Every guy has this. Yeah, he's not a guy who'll bring you a warm towel. Like what do you think it's like crusted up? Oh my God, yeah. Oh, really?
Every guy is this.
Yeah, he's not a guy who'll bring you a warm towel.
Like, what do you think he's going to do with a pocket pussy?
He's just going to let it there.
Like...
Oh, so when it, oh, so when it crusts over the top, he knows it's full.
Yeah.
And then you get your directly.
He probably just buys a new one.
He probably just tosses it and gets a new one.
It's charming.
There's a ton here.
Okay, here we go.
Look at him.
He's just so proud of your toys.
Okay. I mean... You got that walk? of your toys. Okay, I mean. Oh, God.
You got that walk?
I'm interested.
Like, blocks in like.
Are these clean?
Okay.
Blow Pro, I love the name Blow Pro.
Where are they clean?
Wow.
This one's a little like.
But you gotta charge them.
Oily.
Okay.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Bobby.
Okay, good.
So this one right here, right,
this is how you turn like this.
So it has this motion. So you stick your dick in that. What do you think?
And this one has different
Is this like a hundred percent you'll come what do you mean? What do you think is a hundred percent you'll come?
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Are you on your back?
What do you try to like fuck it down? No, Yeah, yeah, 100% cum. Are you on your back?
Or do you try to like fuck it down?
No, no, no, I've never tried that.
A doggy style?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, this one comes with a mount.
Oh, really?
Like a tripod?
Like a tripod mount mount.
Like you can spin on it.
Like.
So anyway, there's that.
You know what he screams when he comes?
Yeah.
I'm so fucking famous.
I wish, I wish, he comes. Yeah. I'm so fucking famous. I wish, I wish you, you know.
Dude, don't ever mount that.
If someone saw, if someone came over and saw that you mounted your pocket pussy as
a permanent fixture.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this is it.
Okay.
This is interesting.
Why?
I, which it's just bigger than I thought.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you press this.
I can hear it. I can hear. Yeah. press this. Oh, I can hear it from here.
Yeah, yeah.
That's like, that hurts.
Higher.
That's intense.
Ow.
Now this rhythmic.
That feels good.
The rhythmic is fun.
I'm in the rhythm.
Right, so you have it here on the tip.
Like what?
I kinda wanna try one.
Right, and you just jerk off this?
Yeah.
Oh my, you're okay.
Do they have different tricepoles?
What's the company?
Moshe. What's the company? Why do you need that? Yeah. Oh my, you're okay. Do they have different price poles? What's the company? Moshe.
What's the company?
Why do you need that?
Yeah.
Promoted, right?
Wet vibe.
Hey, wet vibe, if you're out there listening.
Go ahead.
Actually, Bobby, could I borrow that one?
No.
Hold on, dude.
What friends?
Do you put Lube on it?
I'll buy you one.
I'll come to the meeting.
Tomorrow when you go,
if you let me borrow yours.
No, no, no, if you come to the meeting,
I'll have a brand new one.
I'll have a brand new one for you.
Wait, now I know it's called wet vibe.
Do you add lube or does it not need lube?
I do a little bit, yeah.
Are you circumcised?
Of course, thank you, yes.
You're an American, yes.
Oh, you're an American.
What do you mean, Moe?
Is that a private?
What, is yours?
What do you mean?
Is yours?
Is yours?
Is yours?
Come on.
Did you think we're past that?
He brings out his pocket pussy and you're like,
that's a little forward.
I have a question about the Jewish community.
Are they still super hardcore into circumcision?
Oh, yeah, I would say it's one of the prime.
Same with the Filipinos.
It's one of the prime.
Oh, really Filipinos are really?
Yeah, you're basically humiliated as a kid
if you're not circumcised.
No shit.
Yeah, but I, but also most people
in where I'm from in Illinois were circumcised.
America, in America.
Everywhere else in the world,
I'm surprised to hear the Philippine,
the Philippines not. Catholic, very Catholic. Very West. Are you circumcised? No, you know in the world. I'm surprised to hear the Philippine, the Philippines. Catholic, very Catholic.
Very West.
Are you circumcised?
No, I'm not.
Yeah, you're not.
Yeah, but he wasn't born in Rees there.
Right, right.
But it is very-
Yep, skin above it.
Oh, it feels great.
Yeah, that's right here.
It's great.
It's a wet vibe.
You love it.
Oh, it's a wet vibe.
It's a wet vibe.
That's a pretty wet vibe.
Wait, you don't need to use lube
when you have that big old mound?
No.
You don't use lube at all.
No.
When you jerk off, you just do the
why are we talking about this? Because it's a built in eight of this. Yes, the built in
pocket pussy. Wow. I'm very like anti. I used to be like only cut, cut, but then now I'm,
you want it all. Yeah, it touches it. Do you use a vibrator? No, I don't. You've never used a one? Um, not really. Yeah, I mean, I have
before. Yeah. But yeah, I've never really needed that. Me too. I know she has you, but
there's no no no. Do you know who used a vibrator and your mom, my mother and I know the brand.
It was a Hattachi magic wand because she loves those. I love her. Deaf, so they would she
would do it really loud. Yeah, it's the loudest vibrator on the market, but my mom has no
relationship to the concept of sound. And so my childhood was spent like walking by anyone listening
She's deaf. She's deaf. Yeah, I would walk by my mom's room and I would hear this like
And her moaning right and she had it displayed it was on top of her bed
I'd be like mom. It's on it put it in a fucking drawer. That's why they invented drawers. Wow. Very sex positive.
She's from the Bay Area and she like, you know,
when I first started dating Moshe,
she would see a picture of Laundry and she'd be like,
you buy this for Moshe.
This is for her.
Oh, that's so fucking funny.
And I would just, like.
That's my wingman right there.
Wow.
And your dad knew about this vibrator?
Well, my stepfather.
Oh, your stepfather.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, so your, your dad passed?
My dad's dead, yeah. Oh, don't say it like that. He died last week. It's just weird that you'd bring it up. No, you're the father. Yeah, yeah. Oh, so your dad passed? My dad's dead, yeah.
Oh, don't say it like that.
He died last week.
It's just weird that you'd bring it up some passion.
No, he's been dead for a long time.
For how long?
For how long has he been dead?
For 20, 24 years.
Wait, so your dad was deaf as well, right?
That's right, but he's not deaf anymore.
He's dead.
He's dead, but he can hear me now.
And he loves this podcast.
Oh, you know.
Wait, so they got a divorce?
They got divorced when I was nine months old and my mom took me
to Oakland where I was raised and my dad became like a born
again, Hasidic Jew. So they were like weird freaks and
beatniks in New York and then my mom left him and then he he
married up with a woman from like the Hasidic community and
they went, I would like I would fly back home to see my dad
in cosplay as an extra on Fiddler on the roof
for six weeks a year.
Like that was my childhood.
Wow.
And your mom married, your stepdad,
is he deaf as well or not?
No, he can hear.
He can hear, I see.
But they met in sign language classes.
That's right.
Oh, they did.
He was hot for deaf women.
That's a thing probably.
It is a thing, it's a specific kind of thing. Yeah
Huh, that's interesting. But so you call him dad. No, no, I call him Larry
Oh, really? Yeah, so Larry Larry heard your mom with the vibes. He didn't I mean, I'm sure Larry was was involved, right?
Right or Larry could get one of these. Oh, I should buy one get this get Larry one
I should buy one for Larry. Get Larry one of these.
They were different to the Hitachi's too, right?
Wait, you used them?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
How?
What do you mean?
I would rub it against my...
Let me say something, okay?
Sure.
Say it.
Hey, you gotta send me the link.
I don't...
I don't...
This is passionate as it is.
I'm gonna give you one too, Joe.
It's your birthday, hi, man.
I'll sing with the mayo.
Sing with the mayo?
It is.
The fifth of May. I mean, there mile. Think of the mile? It is.
The fifth of May.
I mean, there's no way that wet love, whatever it's called, is not going to sponsor you and
send you like five free ones.
Yeah.
So.
Wet love.
Yeah.
Wet vibe.
Wet vibe.
Wet vibe.
Yeah.
I'm sure there are better, but like the vibe, so here's what, here's the thing.
Yeah.
I, what did I used to get on the road?
Well, I would buy, I would go to fucking CV a vet CVS or long. What no I would get the gigantic back massage
I'm a massage with the three prongs three prongs. What do you mean?
Like there's three balls three balls. It's for your back. Oh, I see I see it right so you get that as a
I would put that against my dick wait. Do you masturbate?
Like OG style still?
Or like pioneer style, like hand, just regular?
Yeah, I call Abe Lincoln style.
I do Abe Lincoln style all the time, you know what I mean?
With just a handful of fat bags.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I also do, but for some reason,
I've always been into vibration.
Interesting.
It is very interesting.
And no one else, I've never seen a guy go,
me too, I was like, I'm the only one.
I personally don't like plugging in sex toys
or charging drug paraphernalia.
Right.
It's all kind of like, do we have to do that?
Could I ask Natasha some questions?
I was a little about like, may I?
Yes.
You're acting a lot.
Yeah, I guess. That would be a lot. Yeah, I guess.
I guess.
No, every time I bring it up, you said this like,
like you just kind of negate it and you put pressure.
No, yeah, yeah, I'm acting a lot.
I just wrote a book recently.
What's it called?
The World Deserves My Children.
Yes.
It was just re-released on paperback.
Yeah.
I'm touring right now. This is very organic
Wait Natasha you mentioned touring what where are you touring?
What stops are you making? Yeah? Yeah?
Honestly, I don't really remember but if you go to my website, I'm going to go to the website
Going to Tempe Tempe. Are you guys both in Chelsea's movie or just you just her?
Tempy Tempy. Are you guys both in Chelsea's movie or just you just her?
So you're in Chelsea? You're in Chelsea pretty's movie. Yes. I'm in Chelsea's movie. It was just the Santa Barbara film festival, right?
Okay, I want to say something very uncomfortable. I wasn't gonna bring it up to both of you
This is exciting. Yeah, and I don't want to get in a fight with it and this is my observation
Yeah, what I'm scared. Don't be scared. What is it? Is this a hot take? No, it's not a hot take
It's um, I don't want to get a fight with about it. I'm gonna just Don't be scared. What is it? Is this a hot take? No, it's not a hot take.
I don't want to get in a fight with a body.
I just want to say, you guys know, both of you,
you guys are in the cool group.
The cool group?
Cool group of what?
It's part of Bobby, like his memory.
It's not my thing.
No, it's not.
Negging himself.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
I don't even know what that means.
You don't know what negging me.
I do.
But my point is, is that it's not. I don't even know what that means. You don't know it negging me. I do. But my point is that it's not what I'm doing.
I believe this idea of the cool group in comedy,
and this is not an insult,
but I think that you are using outdated information.
I'm not. I think there is...
I'm using facts.
I think there is no cool group.
Oh my god, what?
These are not facts.
They are facts.
I think the notion... There it is, it's a fact.
No, I think the notion of cool in standup
is a product of the early to mid 2000s.
And that, like if you look at what's,
no the fact that you were in Vegas
in front of how many people?
Oh yeah, that was a lot.
Yeah, but we're the,
but no, how many people?
30,000?
15,000.
15,000 people? That's it.
Oh my God.
But see, this is what's wrong.
Comedians, they like beat themselves up.
That's just you giving yourself bruises and like.
Okay, I think that maybe you're right.
It means yourself.
Not being mean, no, I'm not being mean to myself.
I know who I am.
You're like 50,000.
And I am the wet vibe king.
I mean, that is so like to say that 50,000. I am the wet vibe king. I mean, that is so, like to say that 15,000 seats
is not a lot of seats.
No, it is a lot.
Not enough seats.
I heard you say the same about 5,000 seats
and it's just like, it just starts to be.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Come on.
You really believe it a little bit.
No, but I'll tell you why though.
Can I tell you why?
Yeah, fine.
Then I have to go pick up my kid.
All right, we will.
All right, so last thing I want to say.
Yeah.
OK, this is that Chelsea is an old friend of mine, Peretti.
She loves you.
I love her too.
But like three, three, four years ago,
I asked her to do the Tiger Valley, this podcast,
and she wouldn't do it.
And so then it's like.
Maybe she wasn't doing podcasts right then.
Also, she was a new mommy at that time. Yeah, ask her again. She has her own podcast she might wouldn't do it. And so then it's like- Maybe she wasn't doing podcasts right then. Also she was a new mommy at that time.
Yeah, ask her again.
She has her own podcast she might wanna talk about.
I'm kinda coming over to Natasha's side here.
The fact that someone said she couldn't do your podcast
three years ago, you translated that as I get it.
I'm not in the cool group.
That's fine, I'll just sit over here in the non-cool group.
Instead of being like, maybe she was busy,
I'll ask her again.
You're right, you're right.
You're absolutely, you're right, you're absolutely,
you're gonna come Wednesday?
Ah!
Ha ha ha ha!
That's a white vibe, bro.
Ah, that'll prove to me that you're not in the cool group.
I think cool doesn't even exist anymore.
I think the only-
I'll text you.
I think the only thing that exists is the internet
and I think that the whole idea of cool kids in comedy,
that's shattered.
I know it does.
I was just kidding.
Moshe said something really depressing the other day.
He said, cool's not in style, just being young.
Young is in style.
Yeah.
That is depressing.
That's pretty depressing.
It's true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's true to you because you're like, you know, toxic,
not toxically, but you are.
I'm a toxic partner.
No, but you're...
That's what you always talk about.
You are chronically online.
And online youth is like bigger than in real life.
I guess that's true.
Yeah.
Oh, subculture vulture.
My new book.
Both of you have a new book.
Subculture vulture.
It's out now.
I talk about this AA stuff, my grappling with it.
It's basically like each of the six worlds that I lived in.
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I want people to listen and watch.
Yeah.
Is there an audiobook on that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You do the thing?
I did it.
Actually, I did it.
There's a funny factoid is that I did it all except for two lines,
because there was a part in there where I talked about when I stopped using the N-word.
Because I was like a wannabe as a kid.
I used to think I had a pass.
And my friend Larry one day threw me up against a wall
and took away my pass.
And this really, it was at an AA meeting.
He literally threw me up against a wall.
He's like, you need to stop talking like that.
And but he didn't say it like that.
He used the N word and it's the same.
Is Larry Black, hopefully he's Black.
Larry was Black, I should have known if I got it.
Larry was Black.
And he's like, you gotta stop talking like that.
I was like, oh no, I don't mean anything by that.
That's just some North Oakland shit.
He's like, stop talking like that too. was like, oh, no, I don't mean anything by that Just some North Oakland shit. He's like stop talking like that, too
Not from North Oakland. You're from Northern Oakland. Whoa, and I was like I can't read these lines
Like I can put an asterisk in the text. Yeah, I can't actually read it in the audiobook
I go I need like Samuel L. Jackson. Yeah, or a famous black comic does it but I'm not gonna call a comic and go
Hey, would you come into an audio session to say the n-word twice?
So I thought who should it be?
And then I go, well, what about Larry?
What about real Larry?
I hadn't talked to him in like 25 years.
I looked up Larry, thank God for Facebook.
In every way, I support them politically.
And I found Larry, and Larry like randomly,
first time in his life, came into a voiceover studio
in Oakland and read the online chat.
Amazing, amazing.
So you guys want to plug anything else?
Oh yeah, I got some stand updates coming up.
I'll be in Tacoma the first weekend in March, March 1 and 2, Madison the 14th through the
16th.
Comedy on State.
Comedy on State.
I'm excited to go back to that.
And then I'm doing that Netflix is a joke festival May the 12th at the Troubadour.
So any of those in Los Angeles, any of those I would love to see people and See them come out see the the the terrifying intimidating comedic beast that I am to Bobby Lee so good
You're both are great. I'm gonna be in Chicago
Yeah, Tacoma my homeland Brea
California and
Also check out our podcast the endless honeymoon. Yeah, we don't just have secrets
We also do relationship advice and people call in they're gonna watch. I really wish I had asked you more question relationship advice
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