TigerBelly - Neal Brennan & Bobby's Apology

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

Comedian Neal Brennan stops by for a 2nd visit and Bobby shares an encounter with a comedian he has wronged. We chat Family Fued, cuddling, dagobah system, obnoxious laughs, ayahuasca, and the main mi...ssions of life. Download the app today and use code BELLY for a first deposit match up to $100! PrizePicks: “Pick more. Pick less. It’s that Easy!”  

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Starting point is 00:00:14 Periodically, periodically, period, period, period blood, period blood. Are we starting? I don't want to. I just woke up, so I just don't even know. Wait, I have a question for you. What? Do you really think if something... What was that?
Starting point is 00:00:40 What does that have to do with her? Because it's construction all night long in my house. That's what I slept through. Why did you He's doing interior designing to his home Oh interesting And it's so beautiful
Starting point is 00:00:54 You don't saw it I have What are you changing No not like last week I did And like You go see it with the furniture I haven't Go see
Starting point is 00:01:01 I will No now go see now Wait what do you change No no I'm gonna see it after Literally can I just say I think her name is Sarah Is that Sarah right
Starting point is 00:01:10 It could It may or may not be Can we say that Yeah it is Yeah She Is Sarah? Okay. So she did the interior design of Esther and Dave King's house.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And I told Bobby, if there's someone who has to do the inside of your home, it has to be her. And she's freaking incredible. She's pretty good. She's real good, I mean. She's amazing. We haven't seen the final result, but you know what? It's expensive. I would have never thought to do what she's doing upstairs.
Starting point is 00:01:40 It's so cool. It's beyond cool. You know what I did, though, for her? She goes, what are you thinking? What am I thinking? What are you thinking? Whenever they ask me that, I have to get. What your preferences?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, I get argumentative. Okay. She goes, what are you thinking? What are you thinking? You know, she's like, what, she goes, what's your problem? Oh, yeah, you're right. I'm yelling. I'm yelling at for no room.
Starting point is 00:02:02 So what are you asking me? And she's like, I'm about the interior. Like, what's the, you know, vibe? I go, what's your vibe? No, I go, I just said one thing, old boy. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Yeah, and she goes, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:18 She got it. I don't know if she got it, but she came back with her version of whatever that word is. That's what's fun about interior design, guys. If I was an interior designer and you told me old boy, and I'm like a father fucking his daughter.
Starting point is 00:02:30 That's hearsay. Or it's not true. Or just a movie, it's just a movie. They didn't do it in real life. Yeah, you're right. Like octopus, like a live octopus being eaten. Here we go. There we go.
Starting point is 00:02:44 There we go, exactly. That is a very, Give me a movie that you would do for yours. Probably some mid-century... Just give me a movie. Like the vibe? Okay, here. The Royal Tenenbaum's.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, that's a really good one. That's easy. Any West Anderson film, really. Yeah, just watch, yeah, you can... But there's some movies, it's hard. Yeah. Like, what would be a hard movie? Oh, I know, Civil War.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Sicario. Sycario is hard. Yeah. That is tough. A bunch of dead bodies, the walls. Civil war is not hard. You just split in half. You have American flags on one half, right?
Starting point is 00:03:27 And just like plant parenthood Parenthood posters in the other half. And then you just put some bonfires and some fire and some debris. I think we got it. You know what I mean? But, yeah, like parenthood would be hard. Yeah, that's a little too just like. Regular.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's a regular White House. Yeah, if you went for more extreme, like, Dune. Oh, Dimminal ballistic, though. No, futuristic, but also minimalistic. So it has to have the future stuff, right? Which Dune, though? Like, Sand Dune or the Dune with the Nice Atreides world? Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You have to incorporate both, right? So you have the Atreides world, which is, like, super modern. And then you also have the elements of raw nature. Of raw. How do you do that? Nature, baby. And how do you do the sandworms? You just buy worms.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Buy worms and put them all over your house. Buy just a bunch of worms. But then you got to do something with their faces. Little masks. Oh, yeah. They have that, you know what I mean? The big mouth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:30 The vagina. Anyway. You see vaginas when you see it? When I see the popcorn, yeah. Wait, what came first? The sandworms or tremors? Wait, the sandworms because Dune was old. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:43 What came first? Kevin Bacon? Kevin, yeah, what was your question again? Which part? The very beginning. Start over. I'm construction. You said if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Starting point is 00:05:00 But do you really believe that or do you think that regardless of if something's broken or not, you should do regular maintenance and fix stuff? No, no. As is. Because, you know, right now my laundry door is completely broken. How? I can't figure it out the latch broke or something
Starting point is 00:05:17 so it's like kind of wobbly Oh no I can fix that It's just off its track If you fix it for me I'll give you some money That's how that's how Desper you are You are?
Starting point is 00:05:27 You know what, no need I used to live here Thank you for all the free rent I'll fix that for free That's your 10 years of rent Yeah yeah yeah I have to say Kalila and I
Starting point is 00:05:38 Andrew Santino Esther Provinzkin And Gene Hong Saturday we did family feud Wow The Lee family. Can I just describe to you the vibe The weeks leading up to this?
Starting point is 00:05:55 Chill, right? Chill, calm, everyone excited. Oh, so namaste. Okay. What are you talking about? Why is this chaos? I'm always panicky. We are, we were in a full panic.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Outside of Esther, Esther's just like, I'm okay being in the loser's circle. Oh, that's what is. And I'm going to say this, right, without calling anyone out, that was the wrong attitude. Okay. Without calling anyone out, that was the wrong attitude.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I mean, some of her answers were odd apocal. Also, can I... They were, dude, pro? I almost, one time she goes, she said it, I go, okay answer. Okay, they said, okay answer. It was pissing me off, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Right, because she was going for laughs. What? Yeah, she was going for laughs, And I was, and you go to win. I want to excuse it because she also like gave birth like six days prior. That's no excuse. That's impressive, though. That's no excuse.
Starting point is 00:06:51 That's no excuse. The vagina was still healing. That's not her brain. If the baby came out of her brain, that's one thing, but it's like, no. I don't find them an excuse. Her attitude was the two laxadaisical. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:07:04 And she didn't care. Okay. So I'm not calling anyone out, but I am. Okay. Number two, I love her, though, like family. Number two, we were ripped off. Oh. I'm not going to tell you what the results are.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah. But could you allude to why do you feel ripped off? Just allude. Give me the genre. When you watch it. No, they're going to edit all that out. You think? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:27 There's no way. They can edit that out. We still made a lot of money for Special Olympics. We did win a lot of money for them. Yeah, I think we did a good job. You're right, right. Another thing was we were so nervous. It's so nervous when we got.
Starting point is 00:07:42 There's a lot there. When you see me on national television, all you're going to see is armpit sweat. Like this isn't even an exaggeration. I had to tell, like, you know, when they do touchups with makeup? I'm like, this is a really weird request. Can I get two pieces of paper towel to like dab my armpits? Because they were like, Kalila, your armpits, just pure sweat, pure pressure. I wanted to perform so well.
Starting point is 00:08:07 She looked at she took a shower with her clothes. It was insane. Do you do the Kim Kardashian wet hair? I wish. I mean, I didn't need to. I was just sweaty. Oh. Because he, Bobby leading up to this, he's like, you cannot fuck up.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You have to get up. Oh my God. I'm a terrible leader. So what was the group strategy before? He interrupted hair and makeup and he went up to Esther and I, and he was like, you guys cannot fuck this up for me. The group strategy was, you know, we're here to win. Like, we're not here to play.
Starting point is 00:08:38 We're here. Someone was there to play on our team. I'm not calling it went out They gave birth Yeah I'm not tank stature Oh god Oh
Starting point is 00:08:47 That's insane Oh interesting But you know any people Like huddle When you had the chance To steal Yeah Our huddles were like
Starting point is 00:08:54 serious Like we were like Really critically thinking In those in those sermons Well I realized Who the real leader Not leader But he is the brains
Starting point is 00:09:03 Of the operation It was Jean But he was wrong So would you say MVP? That was my pitch Why are you stealing That was my My pitch.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I can't fucking believe what you're doing right now. I can't fucking believe you right now. It is out of control. Oh my God. You're trying to be funny. You were trying to be funny. Are you fucking out of your fucking mind right now? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Oh my God. It's out of control what you're doing right now. I swear I fucking got, dude. Anyway. Chill out. Chill out. Anyway, it was a pleasant experience. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But can I say one last thing too? Okay. So Steve Harvey. Good guy? You like him? Nice. He went to Flavor Flav. They do a 30 minute.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They do a 30 minute, my boy. You know what I mean? What up, man. Yeah, yeah, like, stories out. They go back like 30 years. In 1988, that kind of stories, you know what I mean? They come to me. And I went and hugged him, don't I?
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah. I ran and hugged him in mid. Like while he was walking, I just ran and hugged him. Yeah, yeah. Came back. and then I go, I know we don't have no story. You know what I mean? You said, I don't have stories.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You know what I mean? He goes, but you, I know you. I go, what? He's like, he said a while back, I saw something on a podcast you said. Oh, no watch. And I go, at first time, my mind's like, so many bad things, you know. So many bad things. And then he goes, something happens.
Starting point is 00:10:39 happened to you in a summer. You know what? Oh. Summer camp. Summer camp. He brought head off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my eyes were like,
Starting point is 00:10:48 like, I didn't even, I was like, what is going on here? Because now I have to talk about it. Go get him. And he goes, I can't say it on television. And then later he whispers to me, molested, huh? Like with this, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:06 he has the card. He has the card over his mouth, right? And I'm like, that's my fame. Anyway. Also, the whole time that Flav of Flav and Steve were like, you know, talking about the past, the whole time Bobby's like, what the fuck? I was very commentary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:26 These fucking guys. Hello. Show those stories? We are. Yeah, good stories. Oh, Dr. Strange loves. Please sit. Long kiss.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know what you doing. I like this. I haven't been this close to you in a long time. I haven't been close to you for that day here. I think you're making fun of me.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I don't know. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I was just like, I just woke up so I'm in silly mode. And I apologize for even doing it. Oh, no, great. If I mean, you can come in and do it over again or whatever. Let me meet you there.
Starting point is 00:12:12 You know, I have silly mode. I think you do, but yours is. hard to read your silly mode it's smarter yeah his silly mode is like more um it's well written it's well written more structural yeah but mine's more instinctual yeah I totally agree by my instincts are always wrong I'm a big fan but um so let's begin um
Starting point is 00:12:33 is it cold I yeah I wanted to sort of be cool I wanted to like be how many times have you done this so far your podcast yeah three times it's third I mean now it's like she's becoming a guy that's done it the most almost. I don't think that's true. Did you end up getting Argus? No. But I think Eric Griffin's done a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Theo's done. Theo's the boss is Theo. Leo, seven, yeah. Seven. Eric Griffin, three? Something like that, yeah. I mean, you're like your second. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I mean, I love it. I was last for a long time. Oh, we're making up for it. I was dead last. Yeah, you were dead. I was absolutely dead last. Not even in. It wasn't a personal thing.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I was on the board. No, I know. was an algorithm thing. No, it wasn't even an algorithm. Even worse. It wasn't even algorithm. It was professional. It was professional.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you, and God, but you know everything's personal in show business. Oh, I live it. No, I know you do. Everything's personal. That's why you think I'm going to just buy that. It hurts, it hurts.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like, oh, well, if it's just professional, oh, so you don't respect me professionally? Fantastic. But here's what I'm doing. I'm overcompositing from my, from my, I know, proving the point that it was. but I'm getting more, I'm more popular. That's not what it is.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I honestly don't, you know, I think it's more of an intimidation factor where it's like, I didn't have Mark Maron on for a very long time. Yeah. You know, there are certain guys I would never even ask. Yeah. And there are friends of mine. So I don't think it's that. But we could argue, you know, for ages, you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And we'll never know the truth. I know. We'll never get to the bottom of your, of what you did. No, what you did. But the reality is, because you're too, you mean, you're high and mighty. But here's the thing, who you are. I'll tell you who you are. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You're, and where's my close up. Yeah. You're the bridge. You're the bridge between the, you're the bridge between working class and the elite. Great. Do you know what I mean by that? I do. What are you now?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Working class. You're still working class? Oh, yeah. You've seen the money you're making? I don't make any money. What have you guys tricked them? You don't even know what I mean by working class. It's not about money.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's about where you were from. Like, you know, blue collar people can make a lot of money become millionaires. I'm cheap. I bet I'm cheaper than you are. It's not about cheap. Okay. It's not about cheap.
Starting point is 00:15:03 It's like you're sort of like, Lex Friedmanie. Oh, wow. What are you getting angry for? No, I'm not getting angry. I think what he's saying is that you're... When you say like, Truman, you mean severely autistic? No.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I think you're just a little bit more like highbrow and wear like lowbrow. No, it's not just that. It's like he has a connection to the elite comedy group. Oh, right. That me and Andrew do not, right? Right. And it's like, we look at your word of awe because you dip in so many different things. You're sort of like the morphiest.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Like you can go to the real world and you can go to the Matrix. You know what I mean? I just want to be Kevin Hart. You're not. You'll never that. I know. You're never going to be that. I know.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It's so upsetting. Is that the goal you think is Kevin Hart or do you think that's... No, no, no, no. I feel like that's such a scary place to be. No, no, no, no. You don't want to... Like I said to somebody, if I'm going to Philadelphia, I might as well do the stadium. You're right.
Starting point is 00:16:07 If I'm going anyway... That's true. Why do a thousand-seater when I could do the stadium? Yeah, but we... Would you rather play the punchline over Cobbs? Forget the money. I'd rather do, well, without the money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I'd rather, I think I'd rather do Cubs. The punchline's better, but like it's not that much better to me. To me, it's night and day. Yeah. To me, the punchline feels almost... We're done with San Francisco. We could, may and we not be. What?
Starting point is 00:16:41 We are. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we absolutely are. No, the punchline is intimate. Yep. You can crush hard. And it's just, it also has what the comedy store has, in my opinion, where it's like, it's in a time capsule. I dated a girl.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Oh, yeah. If you can believe it. Let's go. I believe it. Let's go. She was, she, and she came to San Francisco and saw me at Cobbs, and she was, she had such a loud laugh that people complained. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. And she really, she had like an insanely loud laugh, but you had, you know what I mean? But she's on my side. That's like Janice from Friends, right?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yes. She had the most obnoxious laugh. Yeah. Is that a deal breaker for you over time? It was a good question. It wasn't a deal breaker over time. It wasn't. There were other things.
Starting point is 00:17:40 But that wasn't one of them. What you do is you don't tell them about their laugh. You just laugh like them. and then they get the hint. I'm not sure. So they go, bah, ha, ha, ha ha, ha, ha, ha, like that.
Starting point is 00:17:51 What? Yeah, yeah. In a mention of this, they start going, I laugh like, dude, that, too. Because this is where I feel like, all right.
Starting point is 00:18:00 This is where I feel like men are not a shallow. Thank you. Thank you for everything. Typically, I would say that men are a lot more shallow with things like physicality and stuff. But what about?
Starting point is 00:18:10 No, no, I'm saying, but this is where you're not. I hate being accused of something. You would physically, like, you would put up with someone obnoxious laugh, whereas I would, that's a sensory ick for me, and it would, it's not something I can live with. I'm out the door.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I cannot do it. I don't care how hot and great he is. It's like, my sensory cannot handle that. We went over the ick list last time I was here. Right. We did. And I have some new ones. And I, I'd love to go over.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I, I, I don't think I have an ick list. That's what I mean. I have none. Like, anything will do. Any type of behavior, scent. A voting record. I don't believe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Confederate flag tattoo on their chest. Everything. Right? Yes. I could have dinner, have dinner with them for the first date and their eyeball could pop out. Burping. And I'd pick it back up and stock it and stick it back in.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yeah, but you guys are talking about, but you guys are talking about people you would hook up with. I'm talking about people to partner up with. It depends on how hot they are. That's what I'm saying. Anybody we can fuck, but I'm just saying someone you have to live with day in and day out.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Then you'd have some icks. Yeah, what would you have the ick? to live with somebody. What would you endure? I may never live with anybody again. There we go. Really?
Starting point is 00:19:22 Same boat. I have, I want to be vague. Please don't. I have a girlfriend and I rented her a house near me. Very nice. Very good. There we go. Elite, elite.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I feel like that's a move he would be really into. Just like separate quarters, separate homes. Yeah, what's the advantage? Honestly, what's the advantage of having this all the time? You're not going to, you just get sick of each other. It's not natural. I'm seeing a girl sometimes when she comes up, no. You just say seeing a girl.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You don't have to. This turned into like the first 48. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm tired. I'm tired, tired. Yeah, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. I wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I see a girl sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. So, um. Well, what's a lot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so, um, and she comes and went and for two days, and she's from a different state. And then she'll go, you know, hey, I'm just going to sleep in the spare room. And I go, the first night of time she said that, I was like, why?
Starting point is 00:20:37 She's like, I just am not going to sleep well next to you. And you're not going to sleep well next to me. So I'm, I'm not just sleeping in the other room. But I'll see you in the morning. And I went, oh, that's. That's the healthy. That's the good stuff. I think it depends.
Starting point is 00:20:49 It's person to person. So people are okay with it. You are very sensitive. You do not like being touched. No. Neil and I, don't do this. I like this blocking
Starting point is 00:20:58 because it really reads it's the hostility. Side it with me for a second, okay? I'm right here, bro. You're on my team. I'm all day. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I think that in every relationship, it's good to have separation a little bit. What do you think? Yeah, but that's not what we're talking about. Sleep on the same bed. That's like a generalization of what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I'm saying like there are some people who love to intertwine and noodle their legs together. Like I'm somebody like that. We noodle. Yeah, but I couldn't noodle with you. You guys don't need noodles. What are you talking about? Mine. You're anti-noodles.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I get it. Yeah, exactly. Hello. I know noodles noodles. No, you guys are anti-noodle. His people invented noodles. Yeah, yeah. The Italian stole it from them.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Anti-cuddle. He knows everything. Anti-noodle. And that's fine. I think, but for somebody like you and maybe like you, I think Italian style is better. Separate bed, separate quarters, Frida Kahlo, Diego, Rivera. that's the vibe. You guys have a bridge. You have separate lives and you come together once in a while. Clear this out so you can really make the point. I'm sorry, sorry. I'm agreeing with you,
Starting point is 00:21:53 by the way. I don't know why you're so hostile. I'm not being hostile. I'm just saying that there's time for noodling and there's time for sleeping. When do you noodle? During sex only. No, I've noodled with you before. Don't talk about his dick like that. Why do I have emotional? Why are you getting emotional? I feel like you're getting emotional. The only time you've ever noodle with me is if this, Neil, if he wants me to watch six seasons of West Wing. noodle time. And it's like, look, I don't want to watch six seasons of West Wing. He's like, all right, well, I'll give you a noodle if you watch six seasons.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I'm so desperate for noodles. So I'm like, I'll take it. So he uses it as a bargaining chip, the noodling. What? All right. Please, please. Did it ever lead to sex? The noodling.
Starting point is 00:22:34 The West Wing. No, no, no. West Wing was serious business. Yeah, this is just. It's serious business. No, it's the American people. It's freedom's on the line. Every goddamn episode.
Starting point is 00:22:48 What did lead to sex was my 600 pound life. Let's not get into this anymore. You're right, but let's not get it. It gets weird. All I'm saying, let's go back to the point. Okay, let's talk about the 600 pounds. Let's just move on. All I'm saying is, right, that Neil and I believe
Starting point is 00:23:05 that a healthy relationship is, there's good, some separation. Him getting Airbnb was, I think, a healthy move. I love that for you. You hear the for you? For you. For you specifically. For you.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I want that for you. No, no. You don't want to, would you want to stay? Would you like, women are so old fashioned. Like, do you want to sleep in the bed with the guy? I do, yeah. I'm just somebody that likes to feel held and cuddled. Not all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Like, during the day, of course, I need my time to pick my nose and stick a thumb up my ass, like alone. But I, at night. at the end of the day, when we're coming together with love in our hearts, sure, I'd like the warmth of a body. I'm just a flock animal. I'm somebody, I'm a dog that likes to sleep with other dogs in the same.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Came to the right place. What do you mean by that? You're a fucking dog. You know what I meant. There you go. Yeah, yeah, I am. That's right, I am. Yeah, you goddamn right.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I don't know what you mean by that. Do you not feel that like want for like warm things I don't like snuggling. You've heard, have you ever heard his stand-up? He doesn't, he's dating a woman who, like, wants to snuggle, right? And it's, I get nothing from it. It feels like work. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah, it feels like, like I love hugging. Y'all know I love fucking. Dude, you're one of the best huggers I've ever talked. You know what? You're the great. You're the best in the game. You're cheek. My work.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Did you invent that? because my work speaks for itself. It works so regardless. And what I'm saying is, so once I'm trying to go to sleep, I drool, no one needs it. That's human.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Right, but I'm, I'm, I'm a big, but I like drool like a puddle. It's not, it goes beyond what you're maybe here. Maybe not say that out loud, but anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Are you mouth agape sleeper? I am a mouth of gap sleeper, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a visual. I don't need it. Yeah, no, it's not great. It's just there's no advantage to me. It just feels like work.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I get that. May I say something? I love hot cuddling. But there's a time and place for everything. Okay? I also like, you know, skateboarding. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Keep going with your list. Keep going with your list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just forget. I also like playing video games. There you go. Yeah. That I know you do.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, exactly. Thank you. It's believable. but sometimes I don't want to play it. I haven't played video games a month and a half. How? Why? There's not a game I want to play. Are you doing drugs again?
Starting point is 00:25:53 No. Great. I'm watching shows. What are you watching? Yeah, what are you? I want to get into a show. You're pretending you haven't seen the West Wing before? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Have you heard of the show, the West Wing? Well, I mean, I show gun I was watching, and then I was watching, and I think, and I wanted to say, so, I don't know if I, maybe say this for another episode, but I'm watching something that's really, really making me happy right now. Fallout. Yeah, I knew it. Can I just say, I heard it's great. Can I just say something about Fallout real quick?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Okay. I played, I've played Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Full Out 4. And these are games that you play 20 hours a day for six months. I mean, you grind it out. They're huge open worlds. And there's a tone to them, and I'm going to say something, they have it dead on. Wait, I didn't even realize there was. a show now.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Well, it's on Amazon. It's on Amazon. How could you know? Yeah, yeah. It's, it literally, because I remember when they were making the show, I called my agent and I go, is there anything in there for me?
Starting point is 00:26:51 And I just never could get that in an audition. You know what I mean? They put you in the other one, though, the movie. Borderland. With Kevin. Yeah, with Kevin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:59 But so I, um, and by watching it, I'm literally going, oh, this is spot on. Even the humor. It's spot on. Have you seen it? No, not yet. The trailer looks dope.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Did you ever play Fallout out? Yeah, yeah, you Vegas and four. Yeah, yeah. It's spot on. The vault is spot on. It's like, and I haven't seen, I've only seen like four episodes, you know what? So I don't even know what comes on afterwards, but so far it's been great. Anyway, welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And you have a new Netflix special. I do have a new Netflix special. And I saw, yeah, what's it called? Crazy good. Crazy. It probably is. I haven't seen it. And it's the most successful one.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Is it really? I see it. It's been top 10 for the last couple days. You're a powerhouse now. You're one of the guys now. Top two. Yeah. If I can I say this too?
Starting point is 00:27:45 Whenever I bring you up now, there's a nice cheer. I know. There is. Yeah. And I notice that. I go, Neil Brennan, and there's a big, there's a big pop. And you know what I say when I follow Bobby? I say.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I know. Can I tell you what you say? Yeah. Because it hurts my feelings. Yep. Bobby looks like a homeless Ali Wong. Just let sit. Just listen for a second.
Starting point is 00:28:11 now when he's saying it I'm literally walking toward the entrance and I always do so I'm walking towards women are like ready to fuck him and then they see I'm right and they're right right right and then so I'm walking out my back's turn and whenever he says it I do a turn like this I go
Starting point is 00:28:26 like a sitcom yeah yeah yeah I'm just like and I walk out of the fucking room now let me tell you what Bobby says about me I know can I get a Red Bull or Sugar Free Red Bull or something you don't even try to mix it up. You just say Neil Brennan, he's ugly. That's tough, man.
Starting point is 00:28:48 That's not tough. Let me, can I say, all right. That's a really tough, dude. I think you've actually said, he's ugly. Here are the four things you say. He's ugly. He looks like Gallum. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Oh, God. He showed me his dick once, and I think you say it's small. And then it was translucent, like a like a spring roll. Vietnamese spring roll. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Can I defend myself? I love, I would love you to. Yeah, yeah. I don't. Have you, wait, have you noticed
Starting point is 00:29:21 me doing it lately? Not to powerhouse, Neil. I don't think I've done, I don't think I've done a slam like that for a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Oh yeah, you have. A year. Because I'll connect to be honest, I'll tell you why, because I'm very mindful about it. Whenever I'm bringing you up, I go, don't do that. Wait, is it because he's now getting all these enthusiastic cheers?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Thank you very much. No, I think I believe, I believe what happened was I became closer to him. Okay. You know, I've come to you with so much advice as of late, and you've become sort of like a mentor to me. So like, I know you don't slam your mentor. So I've been very like, I think I'm being nice. Yeah, Luke's, Guy Walker didn't go fucking give it up for Yoda. He looks like fucking Yoda.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I know. But what I'm saying is, but when Luke first saw Yoda, he didn't know he was Yoda. He treated him like shit. How did he treat him? I don't remember. He just thought he was a creature on the Dagaba system.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And Luke asked him, I go, come on, get me to Yoda, because Yoda said that he can introduce him to Yoda when he was Yoda the whole time. Frank Oz, who plays Yoda. Great guy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I don't know. He came to, he came to, see blocks when I was doing it in New York. No. And like it, he did not. Wow. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Wow. He did not? He didn't hate it, but he didn't love it. He did not. The voice of Kermit and Yoda. Did he, did you see him after the show? Yeah. Wait, how does someone tell you they don't like something?
Starting point is 00:31:05 They don't. It's you, there's a sense. It's like if you can tell someone wants. fuck you're not. It's just like you can sense it and they talk around it. They use words. Like compliment stuff that's not the thing you want. Like I like your pacing or something. I have to say I don't trust you. To discern whether someone likes it or not? Because I don't trust my own sense. You have yours is broken. Me and I say this with with sympathy. I have. I have. Because you will kill and then you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:43 and then like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, no. Can I say? Yeah. Okay. I know that I killed. I just don't like. It's like, for instance, I'll give you, like, I'll give you,
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm going to give you a text. So I go, you know, you know trailer trash Tammy? Yeah. Chelsea. You know Chelsea Lynn? Trail of trash Tammy? Mm-hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So her and I are both in a movie together. and she went and saw it at the theater in Nashville. I mean, wherever she lives, right? And I go, the last bit of Texas, I think it's got hard. They will show it in rehabs for years to come. You killed it to her. And then she goes, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:32:24 So did you? You stole the show? And then I didn't respond to that because I don't like those kind of compliments because I didn't steal the show. Oh, right. You know what I was in the premiere? People came out to me,
Starting point is 00:32:34 you and Theo killed it or whatever. And I don't like those kind of things. So it's like I just kind of change the subject or whatever. But it's not about like so when I'm a kill on stage and you go, you killed it, it's more like you know what I mean, I don't want to talk about it, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, you know, but I don't, I'm not even saying
Starting point is 00:32:51 you, I don't think you're wrong though. Like you know you're good in whatever movie this is. Right? Yeah. But it's just showbiz. I'm like, you killed it, bro. It just means nothing. It means nothing. Yeah. It's something. It's never meant less. I can receive a compliment if I
Starting point is 00:33:07 truly feel good about it. if I feel so-so about it, I can't do it. Then it feels like, oh, God, like, please, I don't feel like it's genuine because I have a poor assessment of it in my head. So if it's just okay, do you know what I mean? I agree with it. So when someone says, you absolutely killed it and I don't feel like I killed it, then it's like, oh, they're really just trying to be nice and make me feel better.
Starting point is 00:33:32 But if I really truly feel like I killed it, then great, I can accept it. Yeah. So, you'll check this out. you've done you obviously you're present for every one of your shows because you're in it right so you've done you've seen thousands and then imagine a person that's never seen been to a comedy yeah ever right you have an okay set but to them it was like wow he's great right they come up to you and go oh my god you're so fucking funny when you thought you had a meet or set that's where i think we're the problem you know i mean yeah yeah yes that we see every show so we're comparing every laugh to the best laugh at
Starting point is 00:34:06 Exactly. But to the common person, it could have been the greatest show they've ever seen. Totally agree. Yeah, yeah. The taping of the Netflix is two of the worst versions of it I did the whole tour. Really? I still crushed, but I was like, oh, the whole time I'm just thinking like this. And Chappelle said that happened to him one time on his Killing Emsoffley special.
Starting point is 00:34:28 What? He's like, that's the worst show of it. The keeping was the worst show. Do they not give you the option to get in, like, editing bay and stay? No, I did. No, no, it's not. Again, it's, it's great and it's the real response and everything, but I was just used to, like, the decibel level. And it wasn't that.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And you can't let it see. In the show, you can't let it seep in. You just have to, like. Yeah. Yeah. You have to just keep going. So, but I'm very happy with it. And, uh, like, Nikki, the other.
Starting point is 00:35:03 is she was like they're going to do that gigantic roast in the auditorium, right? For Tom Brady is that? Yeah, the Staplesome. The auditorium. Auditorium, right? Lakers auditorium. Yeah, and she's like, it's live. Oh my God. Right? So she's doing roast live and she goes, she was nervous about it and I go, but I go, I think you know what to do. You know what I mean? Just smile. As if every joke is the funniest joke ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Even if the response is not as good as you wanted it to be or whatever. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's just, you just, because people watching, they don't know. It's when, it's when, like, I've seen, I saw a guy on the Tonight Show when I was young. I was a kid. I don't want to name the comic because he's somebody I love. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And he had a bad set. Even as a kid I knew. It was, um, yeah, that's funny. It was watching it, right? Yeah. And it wasn't the response of the audience on the Tonight Show, it was Johnny Carson. It was how he was responding to their response that bothered me as a kid.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And in my mind, even then, I was like, just fix your face. Well, I know. That's the, that's, yeah. Yeah. That Conan O'Brien said that the other day where he was talking about if somebody's bombing on the show, just don't say it. Yeah. And the host can help you make it.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Like if the host is laughing, he can get the audience. That happened to me on, I did Fallon like three weeks ago. And my first joke didn't, it did fine. and Jimmy like cheered it and for and I texted him afterwards I was like for all of like You just stand up on felon?
Starting point is 00:36:38 No I just did panel Oh okay And I was and then it ended up going great But it like the first beat of the like Just didn't really and he and I text them like For all of like the Fallon's fake Criticism he gets it's like I'd rather that
Starting point is 00:36:53 Than like you having your arms folded And watching me bomb You know I mean like that's good to Yeah. That's fucking good hosting. That's good hosting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I want to ask you a personal question right now. That's very uncomfortable for me right now because you just brought that up, all right? What's so funny? Okay. So I, when you just said that, like, I was, I just did Andy Richter's podcast at Conan's place over there, over there by large. And, you know, we were talking about Conan and he's like, well, Conan might be coming in here. I go, I've never met him. He's like, he was.
Starting point is 00:37:31 shocked. He was like, you've never met Conan? And I go, no. In fact, I've never met anybody. You know what I mean? No, no, no. I mean, when it comes to like, when it comes to like, I know them, right, but I've never been on any talk show. Have you met Fallon before? Yeah, I started with Fallon. So back in the day, we were like doing open mics and stuff
Starting point is 00:37:51 together, right? And then it's like, then he was in the groundlings. And then, in fact, when Seinfeld, the last episode, KTLA, the LA News, They did a segment of who's the next Seinfeld in L.A. And they did a segment of me, Freddie Soto, Aisha Tyler, and Jimmy Fallon. Oh. Right? And they went to all the clubs and they taped us and stuff. So we were the four, right.
Starting point is 00:38:14 They were 0 for four. You're right, you're right. They were on everything. Oh, no. But my, but, John, why do you laugh so hard at him? So what I'm saying is that, but I've, like, I have movies coming out. I have things I'm promoting. I just can never,
Starting point is 00:38:35 they, I just never have done any of them. That, yeah. Well, is it, and that, and when because of that, I think that I'm blue collar,
Starting point is 00:38:43 I don't think I'm cool. Right. And all that stuff because I'm never, even people will have nothing to promote. Guys, I'm way bigger than. Guys, I'm way bigger than.
Starting point is 00:38:53 We'll just go and panel and talk. Well, who show do you want to be on? I, dude. You've never been on Seth? Really? And Seth. And Seth.
Starting point is 00:39:01 right when he did the I'll text them right now no no don't don't text them just FaceTime I want I don't want that I don't know I'm asking I'm saying from their own from their own
Starting point is 00:39:12 I don't need that but when I'm saying the awes you know Seth's who look at oh I was on he offered me to part so I have a worse version of that they said they were writing apart for me
Starting point is 00:39:25 they cut it oh yeah yeah yeah but you want people to just wake up in the morning and say, you know what, I want Bobby Lee on my show. I don't think that's what he does in the morning. The whole,
Starting point is 00:39:39 that is actually what Fallon does. He does. Oh, oops. But the whole thing of show business is, hey, am I worth anything? Am I worth talking to?
Starting point is 00:39:55 That's how it was with you. So when you say it was professional, not, you know what I mean? So it's like, the whole thing is walking, going like, am I worth talking to yet? How about now?
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah, yeah. How about now? I would argue you shouldn't do any of them. No, I don't ever want to do them. Yeah, great. I refuse to do them, so that's what you even talk to don't think of anything. I'm not going to do it. I don't know if this is well known, but.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I heard, like, when Entertainment Weekly, like a huge magazine used to give, it gave Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison bad reviews. And then when the wedding singer came out, They wanted Adam on the cover and he was like, fuck you. And I don't think he's, then they had to buy a photo of them and put it on the cover. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Wow, wow, wow. Yeah, I think that's true. Yeah. Nice. That's insane. I've heard. It sounds true. No, no, I don't want to say it for like,
Starting point is 00:40:50 it's absolutely true. Because I've never asked Adam about it. It sounds true. Yeah. But also, you know, Montreal comedy films was done. But I've only, I only went once. and that was four years ago. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Right? So all those little tiny things and my mind makes me feel like people can say all the things they want like you're selling out or you know what I mean you're doing this, you're doing that but it's like there's all these little
Starting point is 00:41:13 pieces of evidence that shows me that no. I have a question. I'm drowning. Yeah, yeah. I have a question. You look like you drown. Anyhow.
Starting point is 00:41:25 What does that mean? You look like a body that's been drenched. Oh yeah, yeah. Like blow it. Yeah, waterlogged. Yes. I was waterlogged.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yes, that's what the joke I was going for. I believe Schumer, I believe Schumer created that joke format. She did that joke on a row. Someone looks like a body that got dredged up from the river. Okay, we'll give her Amy Schumer the credit. Shout out to Amy Schumer. Okay, do you think that you think that you, you were showcasing yourself appropriately to be as popular as you are.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Meaning like since you've always been as funny as you are, right? I would argue that since you've started being on other people's podcasts and doing this podcast, you've shown yourself to be fucking hilarious. Oh my God, you're really going to make me mad today. Why? I get the... I don't even know why. I don't even know what you mean. No, no, here's what I found.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Here's what I found. Here's what I found. Here's what I found. I found that this special is more popular for me. And what I would also say is, and it's probably, it's, the jokes are 15% better than my other specials. Let me ask you this. Before you even did a Netflix special, did you panel on a show? Panel or stand-up? Either one. I did.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Fallon was like more a personal thing. But like Conan, that's what I mean. Conan had me on once. That's what you got on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:43:14 whatever you're saying right now is not true then. Because what I'm saying is I, no, no. Because in the, since Mad TV, right, if I went to Schaumburg, a huge room. Yeah. No special I've done, right? Yeah. Still sell out.
Starting point is 00:43:31 So to me that doesn't track. I've always done movies. I've always done movies. I've always done all the things everyone else did. I would say people's awareness of you, of how funny you are, was harder to locate until you started this podcast and the podcast of Santino. Okay, but, okay, let's go along with that, all right? How long have we done Tiger Belly? Almost 10 years. In 10 years, okay, I've showcased my ability. Still no ask. right well now now they're just doing it to fuck with you that is that what it is no yeah i know i have a good authority but i'm okay with it because
Starting point is 00:44:14 i like you know what from now on you have more people will see the worst episode of tiger belly yeah than you on those shows oh wow maybe i don't know what that means but maybe numbers wise yeah more people will see this yeah that's not my point though you want My point is that I want, you know, like you, right? I want to be, and, you know, here, we might have to have to cut this whole section up because people complain. Like, I hate when Bobby complains, right? So I don't even want to do, talk about this anymore. Because people complain, people complain about me complaining.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Have it happened. I don't like them complaining. What? I don't like them complaining. So anyone, listen, how about this? Everyone listening right now. I know it sounds like a pity party, but it's not. I was just, let's go to a different section.
Starting point is 00:44:59 We're just do it. Just smile the whole time. No, that's the thing. Yeah, yeah. Let's do a different section. If it were a party, Bobby would have left a long time ago. Go ahead. I do feel really sorry for you, though.
Starting point is 00:45:09 There we go. I like this. You do? This is your lady laughing too. You're right. I'm blessed. I really am. And I have to pinch myself.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And there's nothing that's wrong. Oh, my God. I have a question. I was thinking about video games, right? Yeah. So when you said you were playing Fallout for six months, that's the main missions and then are you doing side missions
Starting point is 00:45:36 for another month or two? I'm 100% completeness. He's a completionist, yeah. Completionist. Here are my questions for anyone in this room. I'll be happy to answer. Have you completed the main missions of life? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Fuck you. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah, yeah. I've done all the side missions. What are all the side missions? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you collect it?
Starting point is 00:46:00 drinking coffee and all that stuff, but running over, running over prostitutes. You're asking us if we're completionists and with our life. Do you feel like you've done the main missions that you're supposed to do? Well, with that question, I have another question. What's the end of the game? My end of my life? What are the main quest, Neil? Yeah, like, what are the question? What are the main quest? Professionally are what are the main quests? And did you fulfill them? Um, so my, that's a very quick, good question. So no, I have not completed my main missions.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Which is to be on Seth Myers. No, no, it's not to be that. It's to, um, I think one of my main missions is do a comedy special. Yeah. Another main mission is to, um, you know what I mean? Maybe have a family one day. Okay. Another main mission would be, keep going.
Starting point is 00:46:53 No, look around. Love you, man. I did, can complete that. Don't you get it? Oh, I already did it. You had a family here a whole time. This, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:03 go, and you've got 10 offers to do a comedy. Yeah, I'm gonna do one. You have every network asking you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:47:09 So, you're right. So, I completed the game. I should kill myself. What are we at this point? Whatever. Side mission it. Yeah, I'm gonna side mission it.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. I've been side missioning, drinking coffee and stuff. Yeah. Buying outfits? Yeah, buying outfits. Yeah. We did family feud Saturday.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I saw that. That's so great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what? I get things that other people don't get to, so it's like, it's cool. But do you want to do them? Do what?
Starting point is 00:47:34 The things that other people don't get to do? Did, I mean, I don't want to. I think what I get is, you know, there are times where I'm, this is what's great about life. I had an A sponsor years ago. It wasn't Dan. It was a guy named Will before Dan. I was like 17. And he goes, we went to a coffee shop and he goes, write down all the things you want in your life.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Like even the biggest dreams, right? So I wrote down all these dreams and stuff, right? And I showed it to him. He kind of pondered and looked at it. And he goes, you know, he said, God is going to give you not these things, but better things, things that you won't even expect. Right. And I think he was right. There were times where even when we're at Family Feud and I was with her, Santino.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You wanted to be on Wheel of Fortune. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got something better. No, but I was, Gene looks at me because we were like walking toward the, you know, the on set. And he looks at me, goes, wow, I never thought I'd ever be here. And I go, even though it's a weird thing. Yeah. You know, I went, you're right.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I like, I never, right? And to be on the panel with you guys to see Andrew, all my friends. And you know what's funny? Meeting Steve Harvey. Amazing. I've never met Steve Harvey. I know. He's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I don't even know people that have met. I know. I know. I know. And he was aware of me, too, which was shocking. That's hilarious. Yeah, I mean, you know, because you know that this clip about me being molested by a guy. with Down syndrome.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Do I? Yeah, yeah. He goes, me and my friends pass that video around. And I was like, wow. I mean, for him to say that, I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And you were like, I love kings of comedy. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that if you, I think what's great about life is you just get things that you don't expect,
Starting point is 00:49:19 and I think they're almost better than what you could ever dream of. The accidental side quests. What about you, Neil? I want to know you first. I don't know what you're doing. I think you're turning the tables. I don't like this idea. I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead. I'm like half and
Starting point is 00:49:33 half. I think some of the things that I set out to do I might not have completed because they were interrupted. You have a kid? I don't. Okay. But then a lot of times those interruptions. We're going to change that. Go ahead. Okay. Are you going to sew your wild oats? Side mission. You have a girl, right? Yeah. Okay, let's move. That's me. I'm living next to him. Look, I can rent another place. So I've always thought this one thing is what I wanted.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And there's been usually like a big interruption. But that big interruption has led me to something that maybe I didn't know. What did you think you wanted if you don't mind saying? Like my whole life, I thought that I was going to be this really like affluent. Like I thought I was going to be a doctor. I thought I was, I had pictured this something completely opposite than this. I never thought I'd ever get. to water my creative side, none of that.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I thought I was just going to walk a very straight line. I wanted to be a doctor and that's it. But no, I met Bobby and he was like, wait, I think that, like, there's this completely other, like, were you a nurse when you guys met? I just, yeah, I finished. She finished nursing school. Right. And he was like, I don't think you should be doing that.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like, you don't seem very fulfilled or happy. And he gave me permission. He was right. I had felt that I couldn't say it out loud. And he was like, figure out what you want to do. I think women should ask their man for permission about everything, including their dream.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So I think of Tiger Belly as not a dream, but a side quest that turned out to be a really huge, important chapter of my life. And that's what he's saying. Like, you can list all of your dreams and you just really never know, like, what's going to pan out for you. But the main things, like having a family,
Starting point is 00:51:26 having children, is something that I want. and that is something that I'm working towards. Have you asked permission? No, she has not. That's a good question. He has not asked. I have tried to ask permission and it's not going well. It's a no.
Starting point is 00:51:46 It's a no. But anyway, that's so interesting. Did you think that like when you pitched, when you were on the Dave Chappelle show and you're like a producer, writer, you weren't doing stand-up then. No. I mean, I did it like a little bit. Did you think that you were going to be like a top comedian back then,
Starting point is 00:52:05 like a stand-up that did specials and all that stuff? No. I didn't at all. Yeah. And like I didn't. So that's why I ask about missions and because having it like I wrote, I wrote half-baked. I co-wrote half-baked. I co-created Chappelle Show and now I did this.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And I'm just like, this shit is fucking unbelievable. Like I can't. believe it. Yeah. And so I am, I am kind of like, I guess it is missions you don't know you have. But this was a mission that, but once I started doing stand-up like 17 years ago, it was like serious. Yeah, I'm always in awe of people like you because I think I put you in the category and
Starting point is 00:52:46 just let me finish before I put, I'm going to throw some names off and just let me finish. Okay. Theo Christina Provinsky. Presidski. Presidski. Yeah. Theo Vaughn Christina Provisky
Starting point is 00:52:59 I've never heard of either Go ahead The way you say it I know Maybe I haven't had an aneurism or something There are certain people Right That were doing one thing
Starting point is 00:53:11 In show business You know related That had to kind of redefine themselves And kind of almost start over Which is so hard to do What do you think Doing reality show?
Starting point is 00:53:21 They were both like MTV reality show people I didn't know Christina was. She was. What was she doing? Road rules are one of those. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that at all. Yeah, so for them to go from, oh, we're on a... I remember Theo. Yeah. I remember, because a girl I was dating, this is 99, actually said, you'll think this guy's funny. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Like, and I watch it and I was like, this guy's fucking funny. Really? Like, yeah. Wow, wow, and I brought Theo up like that and he got mad at me. Yeah, he doesn't want you to bring it up. Yeah, but it's like, dude, I don't, I think, I thought you were funny when I was in comedy and you weren't. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And he, people, people like, he did come into me and go, hey man, don't talk about whatever MTV. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:08 It's like he figured out of way to be funny in a, in a fucking interview about riding around in a bus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you don't even know this, but Jamie Chung, she started off in MTV's real world. New World, yeah. San Diego, I think. Oh, she did? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 So, I mean, but it's difficult to do. She's super good looking, right? Yeah, she's really. Yeah. But you did, you know. I have masturbated to her? Yep, go ahead. I went to Israel with her.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah, I remember. Okay. Anyway, Bobby, I'm Jewish. Not now. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. Give it like two. Oh, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:54:40 You're right. Anyway, but it's hard to like redefine yourself and it's go different direction, probably. That's why I'm in awe of you guys. It's, it's, yeah, it's, you don't have, I had no, I'm not like I had no, I'm not like I had no options but I didn't want to do I like did the pivot movie it didn't do good and I was like fucked I was kind of fucked like I could have kept
Starting point is 00:55:01 you could have been in it probably would have saved it and and so yeah I didn't have any and so I started doing it and the thing was like I wasn't as good as everyone else do you know what I'm doing stand-up you mean? Yeah yeah like every everyone was better than me
Starting point is 00:55:18 yeah I don't know I don't remember you back then yeah I only remember remember the good Neil. You met me 20. I never watched you, though. I can't watch. Yeah, fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 But there was one time where I was like, you were doing well many, many years ago. And I walked in and I went, oh. There was always that moment where you see another guy, a guy or girl, take it to the next level. And you're like, okay. I saw that with Sebastian when he was fucking terrible. And then one day he destroyed out of nowhere. I was just like, oh, he's there. You know, it's, it's fun to watch that, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah. People's transformation. When they, something clicks, you know? And it's like your first instinct is like jealousy. And then you're like, no, but I can't really be mad at if you like comedy. Yeah. You can't be mad at somebody else. People rip on Matt Rife.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I'm like, you know, I mean, what did this kid come from? And I'm like, I knew Matt. Yeah, he's been, I, you see him in the lobby at the laugh factory 15 years ago. Grinding it out that kid. Fuck you. Yeah. He did it. He's not an anomaly.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You know what I mean? Yeah, you get it. He's a very good-looking kid. I don't think that's the major complaint is that he made it. What do you think they made it? What's it? I mean, we can cut it out, but what do you think it is? The major complaint, I mean...
Starting point is 00:56:36 But we might not cut it out. Go ahead. It's not, it's that he turned on his fan base, right? Which is predominantly women and girls is how that's the whole, like, you know, the beef, the cancellation. Oh, I know. It's not that he rose to the top. He rose at the top because girls absolutely latched on. We love that he's good looking.
Starting point is 00:56:58 We love that he's funny. We love that he does great crowd work. Like, it was like put him right at the top. And then he came out with a special that was basically like, what a lot of girls felt was like shitting on girls in general. The one bit I saw, though, about like the restaurant, the host, Black Eye. Is that we referring to? No.
Starting point is 00:57:20 No, it's not from the special. It is from the special. He just did like a woman beating joke. To me, it was just kind of like, why are you doing that? Yeah. But I wasn't, I didn't, it just seemed like an unforested error, but it didn't feel like premeditated. I can also see why he's sitting there like, this is edgy and kind of clever or whatever in his mind. So I can understand why he, because a comic doesn't want to hear somebody go, don't do that joke.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Then we want to double down and do it anyway. You know what I mean? So I don't know what his mindset was. you know what I mean but I forgive them for that I mean it's just it's a joke you know but it's so hard to do the right thing all the time you say it's like enforced errors will lead to a cancellation and it sucks that it has to be that way yeah what are most of your unforced errors as a person we mean an unforced error like just like ah why do why do that why do I keep doing that there's so many just rank
Starting point is 00:58:20 No, and like, I mean, name me an un-forced error that you think I have. God. I mean, we- Thank you, guys. I mean, what the fuck, guys? Let's say, uh, maybe, like, let's take even the error, spears. Unforced error in your life. You didn't have to start a beef with that guy.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Okay. Here's, here's something I want to, thank you for bringing it up because. Unforced error about to happen. It just hit something. You just hit something. And I was, I wanted to talk to you about it. And I just, you just reminded me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Okay. And I'm glad you're here because I want you to hear it. Mm-hmm. Okay. And I want to name names. Do you want these names? Yeah, can we bleep these names? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:01 All right. I'll just cover them. A classic. The classic. Yeah. Cover. Do you remember? It's like being in the yakuza.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Oh, yes. Okay, yes. We talked about this. We talked about it? Yeah, you hit me up. You called me. I know, but I was wrong. Wait, tell the whole story.
Starting point is 00:59:16 All right, so here's the thing. Over the years, okay. that me and the comic have had... By the way, Steve Harvey thought you were... All right, so over the years, especially... We were pitted against each other when we grew up doing stand-up. And, you know, I just...
Starting point is 00:59:37 You know, he... There was a time where he was doing better than me, right? And I got jealous, and because we were never, like, friends or whatever. And then once... When were you... Way before... way before that.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah. 95. Really? We opened mics. Okay. We both started in the same city. So he just figured out a few jokes out sooner than you or something? No,
Starting point is 00:59:59 he was, he was a cleaner version of what I was doing, right? I was so unhinged and crazy. And he was like, kind of like polite and, you know what I mean? And, you know. He was like Christian.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah. And I was more naked, the devil. Yeah. The naked devil. And, you know, and the people, the local comics in San Diego.
Starting point is 01:00:20 That was your head. headshot said Bobby leave the naked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they backed him and they didn't back me, and so I didn't have any friends. Anyway, so, you know, and so when we did this podcast, in the early years, I would kind of, you know, do some slams or whatever, right?
Starting point is 01:00:34 And it was a little mean, and I feel shame about it. I really do. So a couple of weeks ago, I met the comedy store and somebody goes, he's here. And he hadn't been there in years. If somebody says, he's here. Yeah, I already know. To you? You are
Starting point is 01:00:51 I know who it is. I know what it is. I know what it is. There's a list, though. What? There's a list of... He's number one, though. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not, no, it's... He's here, but then there's... He's here. You know what? And I respond to this one. Yeah. He's here, you're right?
Starting point is 01:01:06 I ran to the patio. To see him. To see hi. Great. I hugged him. Great. Oh, yeah. And as I'm hugging him, right?
Starting point is 01:01:15 His wife is there. So I reach my hand out like this. And I go, hi her name and she looks at my hand and she goes right yeah and as well back away i literally almost started crying i felt so much shame you know what i mean about my behavior and just like why are you doing this is so dumb you know i mean do you think you're mean spirited though no i don't either thank you you're welcome god i love you so much i know i'm crazy about you he can be oh wait what shut the fuck his mic away go ahead
Starting point is 01:01:52 What fuck are you talking about? As I pulled away, I walk. Well, isn't it just a poverty of spirit and not mean-spirited? Can he be jealous? I'd rather be mean-spirited than poverty. Poverty. Yeah, poverty doesn't sound like. Anyway, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I can be. Yeah, but all of us can be. Yeah. Like, I, I, there's, when we have a good shit-talking sash, I mean, it's all mean, it's as mean-spirited as it gets. You all jumped on it, too. Oh, yeah. we all did.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Let me finish. May I finish? Sorry. And I text Gilbert right away. I told him what happened. And he goes, we just got to apologize. I didn't have his number.
Starting point is 01:02:35 So I tepped him. And I wrote a long, pretty long, that was very, like, heartfelt. The classic big fan. I've never written a celebrity before. Big fan. First time caller.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It was like, it was pretty heartfelt. You know, and I really, I do love the. I do love him. Yeah. If I think about my history, I just love him. And I just kind of expressed myself in that way. And then he texts his back.
Starting point is 01:03:02 He DMs me back and he goes, no problem, dude. Do you think that he means that? I don't know. Because I go, let's meet for coffee. He didn't really address that either. Right? So I just said, he just says, no problem, dude. I'm okay or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Right. But then something happened I didn't tell you about. Uh-oh. A week later, his wife texts. me. DM's me. I was hoping they'd be like, she's here.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Oh, fuck. And she goes, I mean, man, man's, that man's wife. Yeah. And she goes, her DM was, I'm confused. She goes, she goes, I didn't see her hand.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Oh. So you wrote that message for nothing. It was dark. You shook her hand in a dark place. I'm glad I made the men's, but it's, it's one of the, those cases.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Oh, but your conscience is clear now. Yeah, my conscience is clear, but it's one of those cases where I perceive things, that's my point of the story. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:03 you're, you're, is I perceive things that aren't really happening. I didn't see your, you know, I mean, I,
Starting point is 01:04:09 you know, to me, it's like, oh, it has to be this, even though I don't have enough evidence. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:04:15 And I believe it, which is something that's like, I do that in every, in everything. Well, the thing that I've realized in the past few months is most,
Starting point is 01:04:23 Most of our inner monologue is just like science fiction. Yes. It's not any, it's not real at all. Fear, false evidence appearing real. Yes. And it's like I'm just the king of that. Like I'll even say bold statements like, oh, Netflix hates me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Which is not even true. There's so many people that work. What are you talking about? Yeah. You know what I mean? But I'll believe it. Like the thing I've talked about in terms of like the talk shows. Right?
Starting point is 01:04:51 I'm like, yeah, that's not. true because if I saw Seth or Jimmy on the street, they would hug me and we'd be like so friendly you know what I mean? Of course. Yeah, and it's like they don't think about it. Why would they, you know what I mean? Why? Because I was the eighth lead on splitting up together. They're going to have me on the fucking show? No. I get what it is.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah, I get what it is. But it's this thing that I have to fucking, you know what I mean, convince myself that there's, what, go ahead. Uh-oh. What's wrong with you? I need to be the bearer of bad news, but this is a situation where I truly don't think you've
Starting point is 01:05:23 made it up in your head. They have good reason to absolutely hate you. Who? I think they're not saying it. Who? But I think that the wife hates you, as she should. Do you have an acronym for this? I don't know what this is.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Real evidence appearing real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is rear. Yeah, yeah. Rear. This is rear, dude. So, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:05:50 I'm saying you now think that you've created this idea that you've either pissed him off or that the wife is upset with you. But given all of the shit that we've talked about him in the early Tiger Belly episodes, they have real reason to dislike you. And I do think that they don't like you. They probably don't. And I don't think he,
Starting point is 01:06:14 yeah, and his response of all good dude is cool. Yeah. It's probably just like... Politics. No, it's not politics. It's just like he's, I'm not trying to connect with him. I don't want anything from him. I don't like him.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I will say the, I'm sorry to say he's saying. They seem, or however you're going to do this. He seems like the kind of guy that wouldn't have any awareness of people talking about him. I think that's true. And then if the wife did hate him,
Starting point is 01:06:42 which she should, would she DM him? The reach out is interesting. I'm confused. I didn't see her hand. It's one thing like I get, I think you're right up to that. And if she didn't like me,
Starting point is 01:06:56 and she still put that message out, there's something going on with her, too. Well, that's what I'm saying. So. Oh, my God, it gets deep. I think it is a chess game at this point. It's a chess game. We got to win.
Starting point is 01:07:06 No, that's not. It's a war. It's a war. You've apologized. You beat that mission. You apologize. I got to double down. I think Gilbert's correct.
Starting point is 01:07:12 You felt better after you apologize. It's all good. Please leave it at that. But I think that her response. Because may I remind you, this is not the first time she has messaged you. Okay, yeah, right. So two years ago, she did message me going, I need to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And I go, what about? And she never responded after that. Rear. Rear? Yeah. It's rear. I wouldn't ask you both just in general, what are your thoughts on forgiveness? Because I think we've, you know, I've lived a whole life thinking that is like such a value to forgive people and to offer forgiveness, even though it's like really difficult and they've done shitty things to you.
Starting point is 01:07:50 But now my idea is that I don't need to forgive anyone and I can just. like completely ex-bat out of my mind to move on. Interesting. I wish Steve Harvey was here. By the way, like, I got this idea. I got this idea from Amber Rose of all people. I have a long, like, answer to this, which is I've talked about I-A-Wosk and DMT and all that shit, which we'll talk about later.
Starting point is 01:08:21 But I do want to talk about it. Um, I did MDMA. I've done MDMA every three months or so for the last year. Yeah. And the last, I did it last August and I was had just instant forgiveness for a bunch of people for like for my enemies list. Right. And, uh, and I thought the next day, I was like, why was able to do that so easily? And it was because I'd been most of, I had, when I was on MDMA, I had.
Starting point is 01:08:53 had serotonin, dopamine and oxytocin just flowing through me, right? Normally, I just have adrenaline and cortisol. Those are my two main chemicals. I'm flooded with them all day. So you see the world through like justice and recrimination and revenge and I'm going to show them and fuck them and they wrong me and like, you know, grids of like hatred. And so I realize that that's what, what I think is a personality or what I thought was personality is just those. chemicals in me all the time. And then deficient in the other. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 So I was like, I'm going to try to ignore that thing. Like it's like I said like I have a, it's like a restaurant where it's just serving me like lead sandwiches from the kitchen and I'm serving like, I'm writing this good and it's fucking garbage. Yeah. So now I'm to the point where I'm, I'm way less, you know, in my head about if I can't, I'll catch myself doing it and be like, don't do this. What I realize is we become,
Starting point is 01:09:59 we become carriers for a negative feeling. And so I'm bigger on forgiveness than I've ever been. But I do set boundaries. So I'll say like, like I had a disagreement with a buddy mine. And he was like, can we solve this before one of us dies? And I was like, we don't, it's fun. Yeah. We don't, there's no solution here.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I asked you for what I needed. You said I cannot do it. There's no more discussion. Well, I think that's like a perfect example. Like you don't need to have a resolution there or a closure or forgiveness. It's like, okay, this is just what it is. Yeah. But that is closure to me.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah. Like acknowledging that that's what it is. I can try to like magically think it. into something better, but like, that's what it is. And I'm not going to, I can't, I wish it weren't that way, but that's what it is. When you make amends in AA towards people, are you, do you do it, um, trying to seek forgiveness or is it just to say that you're sorry? That's an interesting question.
Starting point is 01:11:12 No, um, your sponsor generally tells you. Not a nurse. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Your sponsor generally tells you that like, you know, it's like in anything. You don't live in results. of anything. Like if I, if I do stand up and I dedicate my life to, we don't know what the results
Starting point is 01:11:29 are going to be. It's either you're going to be famous or you're going to become a road comic. You might even make, not make it at all, right? No, it's just, you know what I mean, you just do it, right? Because we don't have, maybe, maybe not. We don't have clear evidence or whatever, right? With, with amends on the same thing where you, you know, you don't, you expect, you want the result of, yeah, thanks, man, and I let hug and, you know, I forgive you or whatever. Sometimes it goes the opposite way, but it's just you have to clean your side of the street. You know what I mean? Whatever their side is, it could be cluttered or whatnot, right?
Starting point is 01:12:00 But I just, I have to, because it's baggage. And if they come back with, fuck you, you've done irreparable damage. Like the DM that I did to the guy, right? You know, it wasn't what I wanted, I mean, expected. What I would like is, yeah, let's meet Wednesday at noon, have coffee, and then maybe I can get him to do this podcast or whatever, right? That's, which is what I ultimately want. For example, though. So let's say I'm him.
Starting point is 01:12:25 But you want podcast, yes. That's the want behind the experience. No, I mean, it would be magical for me to have him on, you know what I mean, and just kind of like do it. But if the response I'm saying in regards to forgiveness, you make amends and I say, fuck you, you've done irreparable damage. You can only remedy this and I will only accept it if you do A, B, and C. No. So you don't, you stop at the amends.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Financial event men's is you have to pay them back. Okay. Right? So it's like if I stole money from you. Do you need to puke real quick? That was a wild sound. It's just a trapped burp. That's all in it.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yeah, it was a trap. Can you not look at me that way? What are you doing? I'm half expecting you to puke on me. I've never peeped in my life. So you'll be fine. Yeah, you'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:14 He's a diarrhea boy. I'm a diarrhea. I'm a diarrhea. Like only diarrhea. But, yeah, but you know, financial amends, you have to pay him back, but, you know. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:23 It's just don't live in the results of anything. Also, no work you do will be as good as this podcast. Uh-oh. What do you mean that like... What the fuck? Do you do a fighting word on? What I mean? No, no, what I... You like to fight fire with fire.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Anyone with a popular podcast should just do that and fuck all asking people for permission to work with them. That's not true. I have a question about MDMA. I love it. When you... No, no, do you want... Let's let this guy.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Let me just, we'll go to, I swear to God. We will at MDM and Eminem. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. But, but, but, but let me. Rear. Right. But let me just address this part, okay. Is, um, you're right. Okay. Podcasting, you know, we fell into, we, say, I feel like we won the lottery. Because we weren't expecting, you know, an audience. And it feels, I'm so proud of our work, you know, on. You should be.
Starting point is 01:14:20 As someone who did, like, a great sketch show, I would argue that these, all, some of these podcasts are such great communications of talent. That's what I'm saying. Like, why are you asking to be the fifth lead? Because, because, you know, when I did that movie, Sweet Dreams, it's coming out, it's in theaters now, and it's coming out on. Stole the show. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Because that movie was about a recovery, and I got to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Dio is probably first movie, Vaughn, right? I never with Johnny Knoxville. And when I watched it on the big screen, which is the first movie I ever watched with me in it, I was really proud of the movie. You know what I mean? And it's a different kind of expression. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:07 Acting is a completely different expression. Storytelling is a, you know what I mean? So it's a, I want to do it all, Neil, right? You're right. This is probably in terms of, you know, I mean, the way I make a living, this is, yeah. But, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, really, I've ever seen a movie.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Right. Okay, great. I mean, there were scenes in that movie, Sweet Dreams, that, um, Jay Moore plays Johnny Knoxville's sponsor, all right? And they have little segments, like, montage segment of them, them talking. And in the theater, I looked at that, I went, I've never seen that. I've never, I've never, that's the realist sponsor, sponsor, sponcy. The AA meetings, when I shot the A meeting, right, we showed up.
Starting point is 01:15:52 It was a men's meeting. And everyone, there was 50 guys. They're all in the program, people I know. He, like, Lige invited everyone from his men's group to come and do this movie. And when I sat there, I turned to Johnny and I go, this is the most realistic AA movie. I mean, A.C. The way they got it. Because usually when you see 12-step groups in a movie, they're in some sort of gymnasium.
Starting point is 01:16:17 It's in a circle. Right? And it's just so, I've never been to a gymnasium at 80. Right? I don't know where they got that, right? But my point is, is that no, this,
Starting point is 01:16:26 it was disheveled, this, you know what I mean, the lines were very, like, on point. You know what I mean? So it's just like, I'm, so in many ways, yes, there are some movies I've done
Starting point is 01:16:37 where I'm like, why did I do that? That was pointless, you know? But there's sometimes you'll, you'll do something that you're kind of, like, proud of. It's a different kind of experience.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I get, I mean, I don't, I'm not saying it's totally, invalid? You'll never direct anything again. I'd be shocked if I'd be... I direct commercials. I know you do. I know you do. But can I, I want to say, I think you should get on that pony again. Is it the wrong response? Or animal? Get on the horse. I don't, well... Not a pony, horse. What? They don't really make comedy movies anymore.
Starting point is 01:17:09 I know, but what I want to say is that movie you did with Piven, right? Was your first movie, right? Am Night Shyamalan's first movie? I don't even know what it was. It wasn't six cents, right? But it was like some sort of romantic comedy or something. I'd rather do stand-up. I understand that. I believe, though. M. Night Chelmonds movie had Rosie O'Donnell in it.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Was it, is it a comedy? Yeah, look at it. It's like a Christian, it's a Catholic movie, I remember. It's a Catholic movie, yeah, yeah. Because he's from Philadelphia, so my mother sends me an article about him three days a week. Yeah, so it didn't do well. My point being is that I think that you would be a great director. No, I, I...
Starting point is 01:17:45 And give it, go back on the horse. I know, but. But then it's, it's, it's, is that, that looks a student. Yeah, it doesn't look like, that's the movie. That's it made up. Did you make that on, you AI, did you make that on intelligence? Anyway. Thank you for saying that.
Starting point is 01:18:03 I'd rather be a comedian. Okay, go back to MDMD. MDMD time, go. Sorry, I just have a question about it. Yeah. When you're flooded with serotonin, dopamine, all of these, like, happy chemicals, for giving chemicals in your body and then that session is over. Is there, do you carry all of those feelings into you're now deficient of all of those again?
Starting point is 01:18:32 Yes. It's amazing. Like, well, that's the, I did enough ayahuasca to have that all the time. And then I did five MEODMT, which was insane. Yeah. Like, I can't recommend it. But it was helpful long term. So now every time I do.
Starting point is 01:18:46 MDMA, it is ayahuasca. And so I, but I carry it with me. Like my girlfriend's, it was, we did it two weeks ago and she was saying like, I still feel the glow of it. Yeah, because that's my question, right?
Starting point is 01:19:04 Because like a lot of times, I suppose like any other drug, like when you're on a high, you love everybody. Yeah. But then you get back to real life and you're no longer in that state. Like, it right all the chemicals in your body it's easier but it's good to know that you can carry it over into your every day after that yeah i'm it's i'm very lucky in that regard uh because i don't i think if you do it i think people do it the wrong way they do it to party and fuck yeah um which you know
Starting point is 01:19:35 we there's a tough place for that yeah and party you've always loved fuck love it love it he's big on fucking party fucking party is my thing yeah my jam uh and so i'm lucky i guess i guess i'm lucky i guess i get to like carry it with me and it's i've gotten into like gratitude it's real corny my life no no no i see a change we see a change in you that's i believe that's why this you're so much nicer i'm also so much lighter yeah you're also um approachable yeah there was a time where i was like i'll go this way yeah i didn't know you before but i've always really liked you and given you like we've always had deep hugs that's that's post i Ayahuasca.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Pre? No, no, he was refined. But remember I was going to do it with you. I was going to tell me. I was going to tell me. No, you told me.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Right, but. All of us. Many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but here's the thing. Now I'm going to ask you a question, okay? My therapist would rather me do this. There's a place in, I shouldn't even say the state.
Starting point is 01:20:42 There's a place in Florida. How about you say there's a place? How about there's a place? There we go. There's a place in a far, far away, blam. All right. Where they do it through a therapist,
Starting point is 01:20:57 like a licensed therapist. So what this- Do you do ayahuasca? Yes. Iiwaska. So when you go through the process, you're in a facility, okay?
Starting point is 01:21:07 And they take notes and stuff, right? And then they process what you're going through afterwards. Right? So it's like, what do you think of that way? I feel like it's a commodified version of what ayahuasca really should be. I feel like MDMA. I've done ketamine like with a therapist and a doctor.
Starting point is 01:21:24 You did it. For me, yeah. And MDMA same. Like I would do it under those like circumstances. But ayahuasca feels like a different thing. Like if there's something ceremonial. It's like real god-y. And a therapist wouldn't be bad, but you don't want to be talking the whole time.
Starting point is 01:21:41 It has to be between you and. And the connection. It also just feels so like, like it should be a ceremony. Yeah. It is so, and doing it with other people, I think it's important.
Starting point is 01:21:51 A lot of people, Theo doesn't like doing it with other people, but like, I kind of think he leaves. I heard. He doesn't leave during ceremony. He doesn't leave during ceremony. The funniest one is him and Roy Wood did it together.
Starting point is 01:22:07 That's hilarious. Which, again, I would have paid fucking money to see that. Yeah. And at the end, In the circle, everyone was standing up, holding hands, praying, and Roy took a knee. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:22 That's so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny, dude. It's so funny. That's so good. So, yeah, I think you should do it with people. There is, like, a spiritual connection shared. There's also a thing where, like, several people in the group will have a shared vision.
Starting point is 01:22:41 That's not necessarily positive. Like I was at one where three or four different women in the circle pictured concentration camp with barb wire. Ooh, that's a good one. Yeah, I thought you liked that. Great vision. Really great. Good shared vision, guys. So I would argue that it should be more spiritual.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Because there is something about A.A. meetings is like the communal aspect. Right. So I want to say that not that I'm committing to it or not, okay, but hypothetically. and I'm going to ask you a favor. May I? Hypothetically, if you were able to go, this is when I'm going to do it next and see what my schedule is like,
Starting point is 01:23:25 can you do that or no? Yeah. I thought of that today, actually. Yeah, and then I'll consider maybe. Not to be a naysayer, but is... I don't like this setup. I don't like it either. It's so negative.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Is it possible? Sounds like something that I have... Like, I have... I have a naysayer would say. witnessed a person in my life almost become a worse version of themselves each time they did Iowa. That's funny. Can that be true?
Starting point is 01:23:52 Yes. It's like they, it's like they were. If you have a, like, a big ego, if you've, if you've flirt with narcissism, it's not good for you. Like, if you have a basis of already, like, you're a malignant narcissist. Yeah. And I would think that maybe ayahuasca would give you sort of like a miscar. Sia complex even? That's generally what happens.
Starting point is 01:24:15 That's terrifying. I don't have narcissistic. You don't, you don't. Thank you. Yes. Do your eyeballs are crazy. Yeah, anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Okay. Damn. But TBD, I guess TBD. If you come out like a worst person, then we'll know if you were a narcissist to begin with. All right, right, right. No, you don't, you, I don't think you're narcissistic. But I would think you would get, you. are one, you have a very big fear mechanism.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And I, and I, and my, I, I, I'm not like I would worry, but I pictured on the way over here, I was imagining us doing it together. And you being like, I gotta get the fuck out of here and just fucking bolting. Like, like Theo did it. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, for the long haul. Okay. Yeah, I will commit to it.
Starting point is 01:25:06 And Theo didn't leave in the middle of a session. Okay, okay. I heard different stories. But anyway, um, I mean, um, um, um, um, um, But, yeah, he I wouldn't do it with, but I would do it with you. Great. There's something comforting about you. Oh, so, you know, it's so funny, in the last year, and I have to say this, you
Starting point is 01:25:22 and I have become, you have actually become somebody like a master to me. Has it helped, though? No. It's made life so bad, but, no, of course it's been great. With girls? In general. Great. Life things.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Career things, even. you know and you've been very helpful to me you know you've become you know um the bridge your face what's my face what what teravitia what what no you're the bridge i think no you're the bridge i think you're the bridge to common sense for me oh great yeah you're the bridge to like okay let's try to get some a seep let's let's get injected with a little bit of reality here and a you know an objective opinion. More rational. Rational opinion.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Yeah. On things. Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, with the ladies, too, you're great. You're, you're like, the Messiah of that. Yeah, I think you were the reason why we changed all of your Raya pictures, right? Because Niels were really great. I'd never change it.
Starting point is 01:26:32 You never did? No. You still had pictures with other celebrities in it? Sarah Jessica Parker, yes. Yeah. Did you? you had a picture with Sarah Jessica Parker and your riot?
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah, I show you. Still, Bobby? I'll show you. You used to have Logan Paul. Oh, yeah, I had Logan Paul. It's better now that it's just Sarah, Jessica Parker. I think before that he had one with CEO, and I was like, you have to take that out.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yeah. Look at Nio's face. I mean, it looks so Photoshop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it looks, I mean, it looks like you're together. We were together. but I'm saying in actual life I mean you look like a couple
Starting point is 01:27:18 That's great This is what I wanted I just hang with When I'm in New York I just hang with SJP Because women love that movie I'm sure I mean So it's like you know
Starting point is 01:27:28 They go I felt like it's like a Did you feel like it was gonna be weird If they were like Can we call SJP And you'd be like I don't have her number Fuck
Starting point is 01:27:38 Yeah yeah Yeah Would you call her? No never I have so many numbers I would never call Do you have that or no I have like a bunch of numbers that would never go back
Starting point is 01:27:45 that in my phone. Whose numbers do you have? Well, I mean, I have Billy Ray Cyrus's number. I've never used it. And it's a real number of his because then I cross-checked it with somebody else. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Who'd you cross-checked it with? A girl I was dating because she was his assistant or something. Great. And I go, is this his number? And she goes, yeah, that's actually his number. I go, oh, yeah, I got it then. Did you get it? That's the mystery of it.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I literally never met him before in my life. Whoa. How'd you get it? I don't know. I have numbers on my phone Where I have no idea why Text him and ask him No no no no
Starting point is 01:28:19 This is like the hangover But you wake up with Billy Cyrus In your cell phone Yeah I have a lot of those And then I have like Like celebrity It'll just say celebrity number one Or something
Starting point is 01:28:31 I don't even know who that is You know It could be Tom Cruise I have no idea But it's I have some You have numbers in your phone That you'll never use or no I'm trying to think
Starting point is 01:28:41 If I do Because I know a couple of guys that have Brad Pitt's number, but they never use it. But they'll show me. Look who's number. You know what I mean? Like a lucky. Like trading cards, like Pokemon cards. I have someone's number, but I'll never use it.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Can you just believe it? Yeah. You won't believe it. Gotta use it. I know why. Stop it. Stop it. Don't even give any tips on why.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Guess why? They just don't guess. Yeah, let's guess. Why? Raya. No Why do Because he wants to
Starting point is 01:29:19 Fuck her No No it wasn't even Don't go say fuck so fucking I don't think it's even Romantic or sexual It was not romantic or sexual Well how do you know
Starting point is 01:29:28 His number? Well we're not gonna say I know You can say it now We'll cut it out No No no It's fine
Starting point is 01:29:34 Are you sure Is this real number I will never know Give it to Bobby Do you want to text him I'm never done No I'm never done That's interesting
Starting point is 01:29:44 You should text. Is this awkward? I also have I have Jamie Lee Curtis's number. You did a movie with it, right? Yeah. Just a bunch of people, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:55 But anyway, it's interesting. You know? I have, yeah. What do you mean? I don't, I have people think I name drop, so I'm going to just leave. I'm going to stay out of it. Can we talk about that for a second? Name dropping is a funny, interesting thing.
Starting point is 01:30:13 How do you talk about people then? I'm sorry, but you and I, because of the nature of what we do for a living, right, you will have certain people that are big stars. Yeah. Right? So it's like if I was working at pet boys and I worked with a guy named Raul, for instance. You know what I mean? Hypothetically.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Right. I'm sure there is a guy somewhere in pep boys are a guy named Raul. My point is being, is this. And I'm talking to other people, right? And I go, yeah, Raul has that. And it's like a normal thing because I work with Raul, right? My point is why can't we do that in the business that we're in? And why is it in call-
Starting point is 01:30:52 You know what I realized? And it used to make me fucking furious. And then I stopped being furious about it. Is because they don't think we deserve to have that person's number. Oh, my God. So deep what you said. You're right. They don't think we deserve it.
Starting point is 01:31:09 They're like, why do you have that person? Like, so then they go, your name. drop me. It's like, no, I'm peers with that person, but they don't like that. You're right. They don't like that your peers with Kate Blanchett. Right. They don't like
Starting point is 01:31:27 that your peers. It's usually in these circumstances, if I may touch you. I wish you would. It's people that are it's people that knew you before maybe the transition. Okay. The transition into a different light. Before I had top surgery.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, for instance, like, you know, somebody that, you know, you waited tables with that you still talk to, right, that saw you pre-caterpillar, right, before the moth, right? And it's like, because moths hang out with other moths, to be honest, they don't hang out with cats. Moss be mothin. Yeah, I mean?
Starting point is 01:32:02 Have you ever seen a caterpillar hang out with a moth? Never. You'd be seen moths fly together, though, right? Science, babe. So one of my point is that, you know, when I was a caterpillar, I had a whole catapillar life. Yep. What?
Starting point is 01:32:14 We're moths now, y'all. Yeah, we're moths. I have a really sad confession. Do you know how I got his number? Oh, my God. Oh, what? We did all that because... Again, this is, you just have to let them treat...
Starting point is 01:32:28 Let me give you some mentorship. Treat women like cats. Let them come and go. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just let them do their thing. And they'll come and they'll finish the story whenever they're on their time. I would love to say he wanted to fuck me. I would love to say we exchanged numbers mutually.
Starting point is 01:32:53 But a friend of mine happened to find the cell phone of the girl he was dating. And he was like, while he was trying to figure out the owner of the cell phone, he saw pictures and then looked for the phone number. And he was like, oh, my God. and he was like, Kalila, what do I do this? I was like, call her, give her phone back. And he was like, but do you want so-and-so's phone number? I was like, you know what, just to have it, yes. Just to save it on my phone.
Starting point is 01:33:24 It's illegal the way you required it. Definitely not putting this on it. It's illegal. We can't just say his name. You're going to jail. Meow-me-m-miao. Miam-miao. This kitty is going to jail.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Is that weird to say that we're moths or no? No. No. When would you become a moth? That's what I'm, that's what I want to. Somebody said to me that I'm like, I fucking, I won't even do it. But I wanted to just be like, who are you talking? What could I have done that would qualify me to say that I know somebody?
Starting point is 01:34:01 Also, the Filipinos never kill moths. We think of moths. We don't need a real, you know. I know. I'm just saying we like moths. Love mom. I don't know what's going on. It should be in a nursing station.
Starting point is 01:34:12 An analogy. In Long Beach, where you found you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out Long Beach. Love you miss you. Long Beach. So, Neil, check out his special on Netflix. You know, I think, you know, every year you should come back on here.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I would love to. Yeah, yeah, as long as we do it. And I just think that I just were friends and I love you. I love you too. Give him a round applause. Neil Brown. Thank you. Neil Brennan, crazy good.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Check it on Netflix.

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