TigerBelly - The MADtv Reunion | TigerBelly 500

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tiger Belly merch, Tiger Belly merch. You guys, we have Tiger Belly merch. Guys, I have a cassette tape. I have Garage Band, and I do loops. I make loops. Amazing. It's amazing little loops. They're simple, very lo-fi.
Starting point is 00:00:15 But purchase some of my music. We have this, which is a Tiger Belly 500th episode T-shirt. What else do we have? We have these hats. I love these hats. I've been wearing them on stage. Yeah. If you like we have? We have these hats. I love these hats. I've been wearing them on stage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:26 If you like that merch, you want to get one of these cassette tapes. It's going to be Bobby's music. And guess what? There's probably a bonus track with George singing at the very end. So make sure you do that. Check out that hat George is wearing
Starting point is 00:00:35 because we've never done a trucker hat before. And also Jaime, hold up that hoodie one more time. Check that out. Jaime's a piñata. We're all on there. Swing swing. Swing swing. Guys, time. buy our new Tiger
Starting point is 00:00:46 Ready episode 500 merch. Yes, make sure you buy it at SlupKingdom.com. I love it. I love you with my heart and soul. Get on the mic, get on the mic first. Over here, over here. Any white elephants in the room? Sit here, over here. Go and sit in the middle. I knew it, Arias. I wasn't the only one.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I wasn't the only one that was mad. Yeah, get in. We're rolling, Bobby. Come here, you know I love you with my heart, right? You know what, listen to me. Wait, wait, wait, wait, do it here, do over here. Yeah, get in. We're rolling, Bobby, so get in here. Come here. You know I love you to my heart, right? You know what, listen to me. Wait, wait, wait, do it here. Do it here. Put your earphones on.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Everyone put your earphones on. Oh, dude. Yeah. This is so. Yeah, I love it, I love it, yeah, yeah. All right, before you get into it, let's do an introduction, and then we'll go right into Aries, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah, I love it. All right, so, Let's do an introduction and then we'll go right into Aries, okay? Yeah, I love it. All right, so, um, uh... Welcome to the 500th episode. We got Debra Wilson here. We got Debra and Aries Spears. Yes! We got Mo. Welcome to the 500th episode.
Starting point is 00:02:32 This is a dream come true. This is honestly my family. My first real job in Hollywood was Mad TV. I was on it for eight years. But when I first got on, this is the crew that was already there. And I was so intimidated by them. And I was so, I really was, I was enamored. I try to play cool every day, but I was so nervous.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And I think, aside from the guy in the middle, the two, on the ends, made me feel very comfortable. I mean, I know we resolved our issues, right? But we're good friends now, but my point is that. Me and you, Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It took three years for us to warm up to each other on the show, which is, yeah, insane.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Yeah, it. Not really. It's a waste of time. It's a waste of time, right? It can be, but my thing is this also, the reason why it's also sane is because both of you had to grow yourselves to better know yourselves so that you can go like,
Starting point is 00:03:22 oh shit, I'm ready for this, and I know where I was coming from. I know who the fuck I am. Now it's time yeah okay what do you mean? Explain Deb. Yeah yeah because my thing is this you were nervous. Stop holding your hands it's uncomfortable. No uh uh uh. Okay keep going keep going. You may have been nervous by all of that but you put up a facade right? No not entirely. Not with you. What do you mean? What do you Oh, and the reason I say that is because mo is an open human being She's the most mo is mama. Momo is my sister for life. Yes. I will bleed mo every day of the fucking No, she's not a little too open. She's all the way open because she's real What you see is what you get with her Exactly. No, it is when you see somebody and somebody just opens up to you
Starting point is 00:04:05 the way she opens up to you, you know it's lifelong. Bottom line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I met her, as funny as she was, as clever as she was, as sweet as she was, as out there as she was, I knew that would be my sister for life. I knew it then.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And it is that way to this day because she is that lovable. Talk about him now. Yes, please. Please. This is the meat, this is the meat, go ahead. I love you. I love you too.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I love you too. I really do. I know you do. I'm in the middle of a lesbian sandwich. All right. Aries and I have a bond that I cannot explain other than. Can you explain it in a sound? Explain it in a sound.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I can't. I can't. OK, nothing. Aries and I have a bond. That bond, OK, here's that sound. Woo. Woo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:00 It's ride or die. It's ride or die. When he cries, I cry. If he's upset, I get upset. Well, he's curious, so let me know why you curious. Okay, so Aries and I have been through some shit on Mad TV. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And he has been open enough to come to me, or I have been able to find out, and we're able to share that. When we are working on stage, when we're working on stage, our bond and our silliness is there, is 100, is 100. And everybody knows that, everybody in the audience knows that, everyone knows that.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So on a personal level. Okay, go ahead. You're doing model. I'm princess, I'm sorry. Go ahead. You're doing model. I'm Princess. I'm sorry. So on a personal level, if shit goes down, I want to be there. I want to have his back. So not too long ago, and I'm talking like a year ago, shit went down. I wanted to have your back and you disappeared. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:03 I don't want to bring up details because it's personal. Oh, you're talking about the Tiffany Haddish thing? No. I don't give a fuck about that. I don't know what you mean then. You called me in an emergency situation and you told me something that was dire. What is it? And I wanted to help you.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I love dire. And said, I'm going to get back to you because I'm going to rally some troops around you. You never called me back, you disappeared, you changed your number, it's not as if you called me and gave me your number. Oh, Deborah, he needs a defense. Deborah. Nah!
Starting point is 00:06:35 Man, that's our time, everybody. Thanks for coming. We cannot defend Robbie Lee, but Joe asked me to come up here and say stuff and feel stuff. And they're not, this is the white elephant in the room. Well, it's the black elephant in the room. But he's lost some weight. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But you never got back to me. And you have to remember something. This is the first time I'm seeing you since then. So now that I was in a tizzy, wondering if you okay, you never got back to me. And I know you read my message because you said red. Okay. Can we, can we have a defense? So Mad TV started.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Based on a magazine. What we did is we created original characters and fulfilled a certain comedy factory for the era. Yeah. Now, what is it? OK, there we go. Look at that photo. And mama had he not asked.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, look at that. Oh my god, look at that body. The photo. Wow. That's you, look at that photo. And mama had he not asked. Oh my God, look at that, Pony. The photo, wow. That's you, Aries? Yeah. Tell it like Denzel back then, huh? Stop it. Yeah, something happened like you died
Starting point is 00:07:33 and left in a pond or something and you bloated a little bit. Michael and I look married, look at that. He looks straight right there. I know, I was there for that. No he doesn't. Yeah, so, then Frank Caliendo, okay good. That was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I don't know what that. So tell me, I don't know what's going on here. I'm sorry, Mo, we're all gonna have a chance to shine. Well we'll see. We got a resolve. I'm gonna lean back if that's all right. Can I just like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:07 No, no, now. Tell us what the details. No, no, no. Now that she's jogged my memory. Yeah, I was just going through something with the wifey at the time. I didn't even know you were married. Twice to the same woman.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Okay. Really? Oh yeah. And I'm probably about to marry her a third time. Yeah, yeah. But things are fun. Yeah, so yeah, we all, or maybe change your behavior, I don't know. That could help too, that could help too. But yeah, I was going through a rough period
Starting point is 00:08:39 and long story short, she got a restraining order and had me kicked out of my own house. So I was like, basically homeless. So I was, you know, I called Deborah, I called Deborah to see if I could crash with her because she's always been there for me and never turned me down. But again, like she was saying, there was something going on when she had to get back to me. And I guess in my heat of my frustration, I was like, fuck that. So I said, fuck everybody.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I changed my number. I didn't talk to nobody. And the only person that I called was my brother who I've grown up with since fourth grade. And I eventually stayed at his crib. What happened to him? I have a guest room. I'd be nervous.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Have I said too much? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you didn't reset the mo. I have a guest room. Yeah, you could have reached out to me. I feel funny as a black man putting myself on white folks. We love it. They do love it. You've seen those movies where the white family adopts the football player.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah, they love it. Indentured servitude is next. That's the blind side, dude. That's the blind side. That's the blind side. Yeah, your ass would have been blindside. So, yeah, I mean, the situation eventually resolved itself rather quickly and you know, it was all good. Okay, good. You know? Yeah. Um did you ever text Deborah back? No. No. And that explains this moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But it wasn't like I had anything against Debra at all. I just didn't. But it's also, like I said, it's alarming when someone disappears from your life. It's alarming. It's alarming, yeah. Because that's the last thing you hear, and so I'm left with, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:10:23 What the fuck? And now I'm seeing him now so that, I'm not gonna let that be a white elephant in the room but it really is. Yeah. Well, can I have, is there a verdict? I think Mo and I will be the judge. Yeah, what is the verdict?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Is there? We're judges, what's the verdict? Is there a winner? I think there is a winner! Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the crime? Like what's the? The crime is ghosting.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Ghosting? Yeah, yeah. But it's the situation, Mo, because it's- Situational ghosting. And that's the crime? What's the... The crime is ghosting. Ghosting? Yeah, yeah. But it's the situation, Mo, because in that situation, No, I totally get it, yeah. Aries, you fucked up. You fucked up, Aries. You did fuck up.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I don't believe he fucked up, but my thing is this, you do what you had to do, You sounded like he fucked up. You had to change. No. Okay. All I'm saying is I'm putting all the information together,
Starting point is 00:11:00 going where were you? Yeah. So my thing is this, you didn't fuck up, you made a decision, and so here's what I feel at the end result of that decision. It bothered me because I wanted to know you were okay. That's all. I just wanted to know you were okay. That's all.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So I'm not angry with you and I'm not mad at you. I just wanted to know you were okay. I wanted to know what happened. And that's the last thing I remember. So that's the first thing that's going to bring up in my mind. And now that I know you okay, we all good. But all of this was built up. All of this was built up and I never let it go.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Cause I didn't know what was happening with him. But yeah, no, it was, you know, I'm dramatic. So, you know, I probably made more of it than I probably, you know, should have. Cause you know. That's life and I get it. But now I can release it, you know, that's my thing. Plus I'll, you know. Cause I love him. Yeah, plus, you know, I wasn't I'm 50 now. So
Starting point is 00:11:52 That was like you're saying I thought you were 60 So, yeah, I've matured, you know a little bit So I've matured a little bit. So. Yeah, thank you. Is there a fly in here? Thank you. Deborah, I have to say that he's made me feel the same way. And I understand your tears.
Starting point is 00:12:13 OK? He's not. He didn't make me feel that way. I felt that way from that situation. He doesn't have to take responsibility for that. I know I felt a certain way. And I just wanted to get my feelings out and speak my piece. Do you have resentments at me or Mo at all? Never are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Never you know why because like I said mama Momo and I are for life And I could tell that you were nervous to begin with and that's all the more reason why I wanted to be like and and even When I wasn't on the show when I was on the show even when I wasn't I was always the oldest always I was the matriarch Yeah, and so I wanted to make people feel comfortable because I know when I wasn't, I was always the oldest, always. I was the matriarch. And so I wanted to make people feel comfortable because I know when I first arrived, I didn't trust myself. I didn't trust myself until fourth season. I didn't trust, and then when Mo came in,
Starting point is 00:12:53 I completely trust myself. I'm like, she's my blanket. She's my sister. She gets me, I get her, and I admire and respect her talent and I'm inspired by who this person was. I knew she was creative and funny, but the fucking woman that she is made me feel like I can be the woman that I want to be and fuck all everything else. If I'm cold, can you be my blanket?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, yeah. I saw Deborah's clit the first day I met her. Oh! Dude. That's when it was pretty back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked like a newborn pinky mouse. It was all pink.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Can I look like Morgan Freeman now? I'll never forget it. I saw your titties. You were supposed to. Yeah, I was supposed to see them. They were very nice. Thank you. They still are.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They're all tattooed now. Completely 100. Are they real, Deb? Completely 100. Okay. There we go. Whoa, are they real, Deb, or? Yeah, real expensive. Okay, all right. Very nice, I like your tattoos. Thank you, I'm 100% covered now, body-wise.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I have tattoos all over my body. Really? In my hands, yeah. Wow. Every part of me is covered. Let the palm, though. People don't do their palms, why? Because you're gonna shed skin constantly,
Starting point is 00:14:02 and you're gonna sweat constantly. I see, I see, okay. So only, yeah. Yeah. So, Aries, do you have any resentments Why because you're you're gonna shed skin constantly and you're gonna sweat constantly. I see I say only yeah So Aries, do you have any resentments toward anybody in the room? No, absolutely not. Okay As we discussed the only the only you know The only reservations I had were with you and we worked that out You know what everybody else I absolutely loved and I got gotta be honest, like, when we were doing this, I kinda knew in my head, I go,
Starting point is 00:14:28 I know who's gonna show up and who won't be there. I was a little shocked that Will pulled out. I really wanted to see Will. But I went, he ain't gonna be there, you know? Who? No. Yeah, that's the only person I probably really know, I mean, listen, I know, okay, hold up, guy, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:49 She's purposely not here. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? Because of the chemistry. Got you. Yeah. Got you. Am I saying that correctly? You're perfectly, you can say it any better way.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, but I'm fond of all three. Can we talk about how you got the show? Because I don't know anything about that. So start with Mo and then we'll get to Deb. Am I still here? Yeah, yeah, you're here. For Mo Collins, right, is I just want to you and Stephanie, but I think you are so I've never met anyone as talented. Whoa. You're so intrinsically fucking funny. To just felt my lady bits for the first time in like three years. Thank you. To watch you do Lorraine and all, I mean it was incredible to watch. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:15:28 As a kid and like I was. As a kid. I had never done sketch or improv or acted or anything. So I was like literally, I just, I don't even, I didn't even know why I was on the show. Well, let me just piggyback on what you just said. Not to interrupt Mo's thing here, but one of the things that I thought was always amazing
Starting point is 00:15:46 about us, if I could pat us all on the back, is not only did people do great characters or great impressions, everybody was fearless. Everybody wasn't scared to go there. And we're talking about the 90s where you really went there. So whether it's Moe as Lorraine or Moe as playing a wife or whatever kind of character she's playing, she went there. She went off the page.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I went off the page. Deborah went, everybody went off the page. And we weren't scared to put our dicks on the table. The only way to know where the line is, the edge is to go over it. That's the only way you can find out where it is. And that literally was our job.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Three great quotes by three legendary comedians. Arias, can I just say something? This is Mo's section. Oh shit, I'm sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. Sometimes when the music is playing, you just dance. Memorize your little fucking, you know what I mean? Socrates coats or whatever. We like to hear all of them, you know what I mean? Hey, when the rhythm is popping, man, you flow. I know, I know.
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Starting point is 00:20:15 And then let Moe spill the beans and then it's your turn. I got you. Okay, good. Memorize that. Go ahead, Moe. So you grew up in Minnesota. You started in Minnesota. Yeah. And then did you get hired at MADtv from Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:20:25 No, in fact I was up in Minnesota when MADtv started and I remember I had a newborn at the time and I remember watching the show and I go, I'm late coming to Los Angeles. I'm like, I'm late, I'm supposed to be there. I think I'm supposed to be on that show. And then within my first year of coming out to LA, I got the audition.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And I knew, I knew I was right where I should be because there was no other way for me to get into Hollywood, right? It's like my background, sketch and improv. That's what I do. And so when that audition came up, I'm like, here we go. But then I remember it was the fifth one, they sent me home and I'm like, they fucked up.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Why'd they send me home? And they sent me home because- Was it a producer's session? Yeah, it's like my fifth audition, and I'm like, why did they send me home? And I was crushed. I'm like, they made a mistake. And it was just that they knew by that point
Starting point is 00:21:25 that they were gonna at least test me. Oh, that's why. You know? And you know it's fucked up, they don't even ever tell you that shit. So you're left in the fucking wild. Yeah, yeah. You'll get your turn.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But that's where I met Michael McDonald too. I remember Michael from our audition series. Yeah, yeah. You know, and we got to talking a lot in the hall and it was just like, that's where that friendship started. It was really cool. You weren't first year though. I came in season four.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Season four. With Michael. Yep. Wow. Yep, and Andrew Bowen. And quick inter, that's when I took off hitting the ground running with season four because of you and being the cast.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Oh, so you went on season four. No, I started season one. I started from pilot. Whoa. But I didn't feel comfortable. season one. I started from pilot. Whoa. But I didn't feel comfortable. OG. I was there from pilot, but I didn't feel comfortable and feel like I'm in the space I'm meant to be
Starting point is 00:22:12 until she came in in season four. Yeah. That's when it hit for me. That's when I hit the ground running. Deborah, I don't want to. And when Aries came, boom, hit the ground running. All right, Deborah, I just wanted to, it's not your turn yet.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Oh, shit. Oh shit. Derek, come back up please. Sprinkle some water. There she is. Okay. Oh. Okay, very good. So, and then, so did you like it right away or no? Well, I loved it, of course.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah, it was terrifying. I mean, I did not know how to do television. Yeah. You know, I remember the first sketch I was gonna tape, it was a pre-tape, thank God, because I didn't even know, like, they do that count in five, four, three, two. I was back, I'm the first line in the scene,
Starting point is 00:23:02 I'm supposed to enter, and I'm waiting for fucking one. They don't call it. So, I'm the first line in the scene and I'm supposed to enter and I'm waiting for fucking one. They don't call it. So I didn't enter and AJ, our, you know, remember? Oh, AJ, hold on, AJ! Yeah, AJ was like, that's you, one, go. Oh, really? And like I was learning how to do television
Starting point is 00:23:20 after being cast. Yeah. So it was a scary, my first season was really kind of scary for me, nerve wracking, you know? And also, at the end of my first season, everybody had their pickup right at the very last day of working, except for me, mine came two months later.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So while everybody had their pickup and was celebrating, I still didn't even know if they were calling me back And the only reason I got called back was because I'm Stewart's mother Oh you think I yeah Wow I don't think yeah, I don't think so either. Yeah, but you think trust I trust like that's the first time I'm hearing Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, you know, Minnesota style. I put shit under the rug I didn't tell anybody you guys all happy and no I did not get my pickup Wow I was waiting. You know what's so fucked up, too
Starting point is 00:24:12 Is like I remember doing a Connie Chung sketch that my very first one and it was like a monologue, right? And usually they have teleprompters, but I'm mad They were just you have to memorize the whole fucking thing Yeah But I'm mad, you have to memorize the whole fucking thing. It was crazy. For the first time in front of a live audience and just having a page of fucking dialogue was so petrifying for me. That is scary.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It is scary with nothing to read up. Okay, well I look pretty good. I look fuckable, dude, you know what I mean? A Woody Allen would go crazy over that. I would have been the Sunni. But while I did not know that, Moe, that's incredible. Yeah, I'm hearing that. Yeah, I had to kind of, you know, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:24:53 being a Minnesotan, you know, I was shy of things and I had to learn how to stand up for myself on the show. And I did learn how to do that, but it was really hard. It got to where, you know, because when a confrontation used to just make me cry, which it was so weak, it didn't do anything. So it got to where I would, all I would have to do if there was something bad going on or happening to me,
Starting point is 00:25:18 I would go to Dick Plasucci's office. Oh, so Plasucci was in charge then? Exact producer. And I would just tap my foot down as symbolism. I'm putting my foot down. And then we'd laugh. And then I was able to talk about whatever it is I needed to talk about.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I love that, man. I do too. I pooed in his office. Oh, gosh. You pooed everywhere. Yeah. I pooed everywhere. My dressing room table, was that one?
Starting point is 00:25:42 No, that wasn't you. Oh, OK. I pooed in Ike's. Ike, that was it. You remember that? Yeah, yeah, I pooed it too? No, that was that wasn't you. Oh, okay. I've put in Ike's Yeah, yeah, I put it to anyway. Let's start about poo, but I love dick and I regret pulling it Very good. Wow I do comedy. Yeah, do you think that like going turn by turn is helping or should we just do a hard spot? Yeah, okay. Is this water? Yes. Yeah, anything you want Mo?
Starting point is 00:26:09 Aries, keep it tight. I'm kidding. How did you get it? I remember you on Def Jam as a young guy. Yeah, I did Def Jam when I was 16. I did Showtime at the Apollo at 17. We went out to LA between 17 and 18. I did a guest spot of warmup for the Fresh Prince of Bel Air
Starting point is 00:26:30 where Will Smith and a lot of NBC execs saw me. And from there word got around town quickly. There's this young, hot kid in town. He's phenomenal. I got holding deals for five straight years. Every network, I probably made a million dollars by the time I was 19, 20, but I hadn't anything to show for it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I ended up at, and I actually auditioned for a ManTV the first season, but while I auditioned, I was also doing a pilot for Aaron Spelling called Crosstown Traffic, which was kind of a mod squad. He didn't wanna let me out of that, but the head of the network at the time, Peter Cernan, was such a big fan of mine after like a couple years
Starting point is 00:27:10 of nothing, he said, look man, I know we were supposed to develop something, we didn't, but I love you so much, I want you on this network, I want to put you back on Mad TV. I want to put you on Mad TV. So they put me on third season. Wow. Wow, no audition?
Starting point is 00:27:24 No, I auditioned for Facts of Adam that first time. Oh, right, right. And they loved me and wanted me then. But Aaron Spelling wouldn't let me out. Oh, right, so. So when I came back the third time, they were like, yo, put him on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And were you happy when you got on that show? I was indifferent, man, cause you know what, I'm gonna be honest with you. Cause you didn't seem that happy when I was there. My dream was Saturday Night Live. Oh, here we go! That was my dream, man. Fuck off!
Starting point is 00:27:55 I wanted to take the same path as Eddie Murphy, man. Two, three years on SNL, hit movie, and the rest is history. It's cooler, Matt is cooler. Well, listen, you know, like I said, I said to myself, I was disappointed because in the beginning I was like, I told my manager at the time,
Starting point is 00:28:11 man I feel like I'm doing this work on Mad and nobody's recognizing it, nobody's saying anything, I'm not getting no love. Can I just interject, isn't that weird? That at the time when I was on it, I didn't feel like I was on a show, right? Right? It's only later Where I was like, oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:28:29 I was on a show but my manager told me was like a never underestimate the power of television and then about a year or Two later it just started happening and I was like, oh shit. Is that when you got Jerry Maguire? I Think so around that time. Yeah Yep Jerry Maguire? I think so, around that time, yeah. That's a really good origin story. And here's the crazy part, when I auditioned for Jerry Maguire, I auditioned for Cuba's part. And Cameron Crowe basically said to me, he goes, you're not a big enough name for that part,
Starting point is 00:28:57 but I like you so much, I'm gonna give you the role of the brother. But what happened is, when I auditioned for Jerry Maguire, that scene where Cuba is on the Roy Fierstein show, and he improvs, oh my baby, I love you, thank you for the concha. I did that in the audition. So he took everything that I did and put it in the script and gave it to Cuba. But those are your lines. Those are my lines. But I mean, the blessing and the curse is I got to be in the movie.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's just a blessing. There's no curse. Well, I mean, God damn, you're going to take my dialogue but not use me? It's not a fucking curse, it's a blessing. Hey man, come on man. I apologize. You know what I mean? But don't make me mad. Because you raped me with a condom on don't mean it still ain't rape.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm supposed to feel good because you put a condom on? Let me think about that. Hold on, I'm trying to make the connection in my mind. You're right. If somebody rapes you, you'll go, hey man, at least I wore a condom. Stop saying the word, maybe. Call it grape or something. What, grape?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, call it grape. It's not a grape drink reference to black people either. I got you, I got you. Okay, it was just more play on words on rape. Hence why you brought up black people in grape drinks. Oh, that's my bad. I on rape. Anyway. Uh. Hence why you brought up black people in grape drinks. Oh, that's my bad. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I apologize. I don't get it. Yeah. All right. Deb, you're, so you're OG. Everybody pull out your sleeping bags. Ah. Yeah, yeah. Let's start. I was in New York.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I auditioned for Facts and Adam and then the second audition was with Artie Lang and the third audition was again with Facts and Adam for sketch material and then LA for sketch material. And the interesting thing was we were at Fox when we auditioned, there was a room, they put us in an auditorium, a screening room. There were over 100 people there, way over 100. And they started eliminating people that day. So you'd go in, would they verbally say, you're out?
Starting point is 00:31:07 No, they would just come in and say, thanks so much for coming, we appreciate your time and leave, and everyone else was there. And it had started coming down to like eight people, seven people. Wow. Yeah, yeah. And my audition in LA, pardon me,
Starting point is 00:31:21 I was working on a Spike Lee film at the time. I got out of doing that in order to be there and I had to go back the next day. So my audition was with Nicole, was originally with going into the room and then sitting back in, they brought me back in. Who was the casting director? Um, I don't remember. Was it Nicole Garcia, right? Yeah, I think it was Nicole Garcia. Thank you for bringing that up. So after auditioning, and here's the thing, you were in somebody's office. People were sitting on chairs and desks and all of that.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You were in somebody's actual physical office. I've tested for shows like that, yeah, yeah, yeah. Deborah, what did you have to do for your audition? Like did you have to do three original characters and three impressions? No, I just did. Oh wow. One original character and I did. Do you remember it?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I don't write monologues. I just go in and improv everything. And so I went in as Bonifat Latifaheli Fishery for Jackson. And I went in as. Classic. Classic. Whoopi Goldberg. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I went in and did my thing. And what I did was I just talked to people and then I pointed things out and then I asked to sit on Quincy Jones lap. Oh, he was in the room? Quincy Jones and David Salzman were in the room. Oh, it's old Salz nuts, I love him. So I did that and then as Whoopi,
Starting point is 00:32:40 I came out and talked to people making it seem like this was my show. And they were my audience. And like I said with Bonifa, I was in high school and I was there telling them about my life. And when they laughed at me, I got pissed off and I started cursing at them. Oh wow, crushing though, you're probably crushing.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Because I don't know why you're laughing at my life. Because that was that kind of a thing. Because most people think, comedy, you're trying to be funny. No, but you don't think it's funny. Method sketch, method sketch. White folks love them angry niggas. They love when you're mad. I'm right here, I can hear every word of that.
Starting point is 00:33:13 They love it. So we were, Nicole and I went in, did a sketch. They brought us back in and they started eliminating people little by little. Yeah. And at the end of the night I had nowhere to go because I had to fly back. So they're waiting for the back to New York to work on next day I was working on a Spike Lee film. Girl 6. Okay. And so Facts and Adam were like you know what we're not supposed to tell you we're supposed to tell your agent they
Starting point is 00:33:42 loved you you're in. Wow. Really good, real good. I wasn't happy necessarily, but yeah. I wasn't happy. It wasn't one of those things that was like, yeah, that's cool. Cause I thought I was gonna do a pilot and go back to New York. And when I found it was a series, I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah. Aries, why do white people like angry black men? Okay. Is that what you said? Yeah, they love the stereo. I don't know what you're saying. So I just want to be clear. I was infusing my Paul Mooney impression.
Starting point is 00:34:15 That's what she said when she was going about that story. That's what Paul Mooney would have said. White folks love them angry niggas. They love them. You act like an angry nigga. They love niggas. Oh, he's so real. I love that guy. So authentic.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's the reason. Yeah. And then so, but when you were, Facts and Addams. I was not happy. I never knew Facts and Addams, did you? You did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah, they were in my auditions, but they were handing over, basically, the reins at that point to like Dick Plasucci. So yeah, but they were there throughout my process the whole time. Never met them. Oh my God. I didn't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I wasn't particularly, for me, like you, I was not particularly happy because I thought, at the time I thought I'm a fraud and they're gonna find out I had that. See, why, let me say, I have, I've carried that all my life. Do you have that? Impostors. Do you have it?
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's, I don't know many actors. Who doesn't have it. Yeah. I think universally everyone has it. You don't have it. Yeah. I know that about you. I know I'm the shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And see, at the time, but my thing is this. I knew what I could do, but I was doing it in an element that was comfortable for me. L.A. was new, it was a television series, people were jockeying for position, that wasn't my life. I already had a career, I had already been working, I was already loving what I did. I was loving my life the way it is.
Starting point is 00:35:43 My personal side was a very fucked up thing. Psychologically, emotionally, sexually, spiritually, all of that stuff. And so coming here and bringing all that shit, and then trying to do it on this show was going to be a nightmare because I thought, everybody else wants to be here because everybody else really wants the top.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I did not want that. I just wanted to enjoy my creative space and I was already doing that. So by the time I booked the show, it was like, do I have what it takes? Do you like this as a baby? Like... I have a picture.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I actually have a picture of my fucking phone to prove it. You do? Uh-huh. Can I see it? Yeah. Okay. This is great so far. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Aries have never felt. What do you mean, Mo? I love it. Oh, it's a great so far. It's all right. Everything never felt evil. What do you mean, Mo? I love it. Oh, it's just my white opinion. Yeah, yeah. Which I now take in today's current administration. It matters. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:36:37 You've never had imposter syndrome? You always knew? Listen, I've got, you know, I get in trouble for, you know, listen, I've always had confidence. I've always stepped like I'm the baddest motherfucker in the room. I think that's great. But no, because people go Aries is arrogant, he's cocky.
Starting point is 00:36:55 But I'm an alpha male from New York and I'm an Aries. And I grew up in the 80s, I built 80s tough. So you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I just own it. I love that. The people that I idolize, Eddie Murphy. They own it.
Starting point is 00:37:08 We have to work for that. I mean, I've arrived finally, you know, I'm about to turn 60 and it's like, I finally fucking got there where it's like, no, I am the shit. Yes. But listen, I'm there now too. I'm there too.
Starting point is 00:37:21 But listen, I swear to God, every interview I've ever done. You believe in God? I believe in magic. But listen, I swear to God, every interview I've ever done. You believe in God? I believe in magic. Don't say God then. Okay, I've told everybody that whenever they've asked me about this show, and I've said it 100%, fuck me, whether it's Will, Mo, Debra, Nicole, as much as I have my beef with her, Alex, Michael, phenomenal talents.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And I would always go, there's no reason why they should not be working in the mainstream on everybody's living rooms. They're fucking supremely talented. Yeah. Agreed. And it would frustrate me. Yeah. You know, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I remember when I left the show, like people, cause I had friends on SNL and when they leave the show, they get deals and all these things, right? And then I remember one time I waited in this long line with Ike Barinholtz. We were auditioning. It was like a cattle call. Really? Yeah, and we were like, this is it. This is what we get. Nothing. We got nothing. It did seem like we, didn't we sort of joke like there's this curse, but it really wasn't a curse. It wasn't so much that as that we had, you know, I'm going to say it, Salsman did not allow for us to go forward and expand the
Starting point is 00:38:36 show. We, you know, the timing was not great when, you know, YouTube wasn't really happening to the degree that propelled people forward. But also he did not, he did not have us making Stuart films Lorraine movies you know that should have been happening there's so many we couldn't even go off during you know and go do a guest star on something Wow you know I don't know how many times I begged I had offers and things and they're trying to say this is good for the show yeah you and you can work around me. Like merch too, no merch. Exactly these things all that stuff is shut down and that's you know you got to
Starting point is 00:39:14 spend money to make money. No billboards. No billboards, no nothing. We certainly didn't have Fox's support. Yeah. I always joked that we were the bastard child of Fox. And we were. So those things, it crushed us. And it did not propel us the way that it really could. I still have people saying, where's a Lorraine movie? And honestly, I fucking should, because I own that bitch. I still have that contract in my garage.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Oh, so you own your contract. I own Lorraine. Wow. I own the three that I auditioned with. And I just want to say, you know, this is the part where, you know, and listen, I'm... Debra, you don't have to find it. I mean, it's like 20 minutes. You know, I've been described as bitter. If your penis isn't working, you gotta use Bluetooth.
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Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah, you know, I've been described as bitter and I hate that word because I just, you know, but I guess maybe that maybe that is what it is, because, you know, I'd sat back and I went, Jesus, the people that really built the show made it. And I went, Jesus, the people that really built the show made it. And now it's like, and no disrespect to them, but I Baron Holtz, Kian Peele. And I'm like, that show was was built by this nucleus. And I'm just like, I don't get it. I it's a head scratcher. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:41:59 But that's also could have to do with where technology was at at the time, too. Like I say, YouTube coming in, if Tiktok during MAD, we'd be the biggest fucking thing. Right. And like, you know, just on the other side, age-wise too, it's like that 10 years is a huge difference in terms of who's going to pay any attention to me on a TikTok or YouTube when those things are starting. You know, so that's, I think, I have kind of, aside from yes, these people are multi-talented and deserve what is happening to them. But I think that it had a lot to do with the technology that was in place at a certain time.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And sadly, we just, we were before it. We just have like video tape fuzzy. Right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And not even those anymore, but because you know, you would get maybe a couple of seasons on a DVD collection or something like that, and then not at all. And then what was that?
Starting point is 00:42:50 Super Hattie and then not at all. Deborah, put your phone away so we can. Shut up. Okay. But here's what's surreal though. Here's what's surreal though, and we were talking about this outside before we started. It's like, because I'm doing these standup clips now,
Starting point is 00:43:03 I had two young kids say to me, I was in Detroit, I'm going down to Escalator, this one kid could have been no more than 18, and he goes, you're the TikTok guy. Like I just started this shit. And another kid- And you know what you say to that, Aries? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Of course. No, that's not what you say. What did I say? I'm sure it's not thank you. No, trust me, it really was. Yo, man, I've been around. Oh, no, I said thank you. Of course. No, that's not what you say. What did I say? I'm sure it's not thank you. No, trust me. It really was. Yo, Mabin around. Oh, no. No, I said thank you. But I'm just going to Mo's point.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I felt it felt like I was going to go into something that's going to that was going to be uncomfortable. No, not at all. But to Mo's point. Yeah, had we had the TikToks and the yeah, all that shit. Oh, my God. It might have made a difference. It would have been a huge difference. Yeah. Do you hate that? Here's an example. No, I. I think it might've made a difference. It would've been a huge difference. Do you hate that? No, I mean, listen, I'm a dinosaur. I don't come from that era,
Starting point is 00:43:50 but I'm realizing you need that shit. And I hate doing it. I wish I didn't have to do any of it. Here's something weird about Tic Toc and that whole world. Like, okay, so every Halloween, it comes around and people start sending pictures. They're dressed as Stuart and Doreen, things like Lorraine. And that's always been great.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And now what happens on TikTok is these people dress like my characters and they've got millions of views. And they're making more than I probably made in the six seasons I was on MADtv. Do you know what I'm saying? But here's, so I, this year, I just said, what would happen if OG Doreen did a video on TikTok? What's gonna happen?
Starting point is 00:44:34 Cause I didn't have it. So I did it. Most people, I'm gonna go 50% thought that I was an impersonator telling me that that's pretty good. That's a pretty good Doreen. Wow. Yeah, yeah. And then the people that did, you know, it's me,
Starting point is 00:44:53 and like, oh my God, they went crazy. Like you raised me. Like people were emotional. It was really something to like, tell us more, give us more, give us more. So I'm like, okay. Cause I ended up getting like 100,000 followers off of doing Dory. Well, you keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Why did you Dory? I was, and I fucking did, and they get nothing. So what do I do? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's almost like that world doesn't want me to do it, they want to do it. Can I say what it is?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Tell me what it is. Aries probably knows, right? When things go viral, right? You have to put out a thousand clips, right? For one thing to go viral, right? That's why I say I hate doing this. Yeah, yeah. Well, I started doing TikTok every day.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I would do lives. I started to play the game. Yeah. Because I thought, okay, I just got a hundred thousand followers. I'm going to see what happens because I could use a check. Yeah and Nothing happened like it was doing it was just like well weird you all told me to tell a story or you know Tell stories and so I did that I did exactly cuz that's I'm a caterer. God damn it. I give people what I Do like I mean look at her look at her
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah, wow. Before you guys came here, we ranked ourselves, what would you rank yourself sexually, you think? Oh, shit. What the fuck? Wait. No, it wasn't sexually. What is it?
Starting point is 00:46:17 It was just physical appearance. Physical appearance, that's what I meant. Not personality, you said sexuality. Oh yeah, sorry, my bad. Physical appearance. From back in the day? No, from now. I mean, just in general.
Starting point is 00:46:24 He wants to know what you guys would rate him now. He's curious. No, I'm not, no, that's the way, wait. Gilbert, fuck you, dude. I wasn't doing it. Let me tell you something. Yeah, yeah. There's a, there's a-
Starting point is 00:46:32 Oh, I want you to rate me. Oh, no, no. I want you to rate me. I'm gonna rate you. Hey, I'm gonna rate you. Okay, hold up, though. But in my defense, let me say this, and I hope you pull it up.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Me now? I'm not what I used to be. No, shit. But, but. Duh. But hold up. But hold up. Yo, hold up. Aw nigga, duh. Hold up though. Listen, I think it was season five. I think it was season five.
Starting point is 00:46:52 When we do our, when they show our intros, with the black and white stills, you can't tell me I'm not a sexy motherfucker, boy. Pull them goddamn, pull that out. With makeup. Nah, bruh, nah man. I had the Eddie Murphy twist, the Pull them goddamn, pull that up. With makeup. Nah, bruh, nah, man.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I had the Eddie Murphy twist. Yeah, that was good. Oh, it was the way that shadow hit me. Aries, you in the wild, no point out. That was a great, that was my, those were really good. Oh! That was a great, that was my, those were really good. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Season five, those were good. They were. They were really good. Let me tell you something, the 90s for me, pussy wise, I put up with Chamberlain numbers. I put up with Chamberlain numbers. Wow. I put up with Chamberlain numbers, son. Do you know when I first got hired on MADtv
Starting point is 00:47:31 and they brought, oh God, see look at all, those are beautiful. Wow, beautiful. I wanna see Aries, hold on, let's go see Aries. I come after Will. Pat Kilbade. Those are so pretty. I just love them, I remember loving them, still do.
Starting point is 00:47:41 They're gorgeous. I love Phil. And we do comedy. Oh, I'm next. You're next? Oh no, after Will. I remember loving them still do Phil and we do comedy. Mm-hmm I'm next you're next. Oh, no after will Well, look at that handsome. Yeah, come on, man. Oh Yep, come on man. Really come on man. You know what you're right Deception but I felt it. Lugadera, wow.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Gorgeous. Yeah. Sexy. So, Moe, rank yourself, you think? Should we rank Moe? No, she... I think you're a nine. Now?
Starting point is 00:48:17 No, I'm just saying, in general, throughout your life, you know what I mean? Okay, well, why not? Why not a ten? Also, your age is equated into it and stuff like that. How come not 10? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Come on, Bobby.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Because I rate myself a four. I was gonna give you a strong five. That hurt so bad. Strong five! That means you almost leaning into six. Oh, strong. Strong five. Can you just for old times sake give me a six? Your toe is. Oh, strong. Strong five. Can you just for old time's sake give me a six?
Starting point is 00:48:47 Your toe is on six, but not your body. Okay, that's fair enough. Aries, what do you rank yourself? Now? Yeah, no, just in general. With the swagger and the confidence? No, only physical. We're not going, with swagger and confidence, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Oh, nigga, naked, I look like Estor-O. What's Estor-O? The mother from good times. Oh, yeah. Oh. You do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the good or bad.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Oh, it's horrendous. It's horrendous, yeah, yeah. Not the face, the body. Body. Whoa, you do. Yeah, yeah, so what do you rank yourself here? I don't know, about, about, about, six and a half, seven. Hmm, interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Debra? I don't play games like that. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I see. I'm, I'm, first of all. You're a nine. No, I don't play games like that. Oh, I see. You're a nine. No, I don't play games like that because it's bullshit, number one. Number two, you either love yourself or you don't. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Let me redirect my energy back. Yeah, we went from a silly game to seriousness. No, I'm just keeping it real. I'm just keeping it real. You keep it real, mama. But that's also what women do at a certain age, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, we leave that field.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Do you know what I mean? And it's like exactly what you say. I called your mama, I'm sorry. We give zero fucks about that. Zero fucks. Zero fucks about that. I'm like. It was just a silly game.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I know. Very silly. Let me be honest. It's too silly. Let me be honest. I'm a 10. I'm a 10. Fuck yeah you are. I'm a fucking 10. Fuck yeah you are. You damn be honest. I'm a ten. I'm a ten. Fuck yeah you are.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I'm a fucking ten. Fuck yeah you are. You're damn right. I'm a fucking ten because I'm alive. There's been many people that ask me, yo, what's Debra like? Yo, like, y'all seem like y'all kind of, and I go, yo, she's my sister. I mean, we never did anything, but I ain't going to lie. I wanted to bang her.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But the thing is, remember we did that shit? I came up to Aries and I said, yo Aries, at the end of the show, let's make it seem like there's more border between us. Now we built the story, so at the end of each show, one time it was all love, love, love, and then we started building tension, and then we started coming to separate.
Starting point is 00:50:56 People are like, what the fuck is going on? At the end of the show. What? You don't remember? Because everyone kept asking Aries, I was like, let's build a story where there's something going on. Like at the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:51:06 The climax was when we French kissed. Yeah. My dick was hard. Oh shit. Cause I was like, we would stand next to each other and I would rub him a certain way or whatever. Or when the audience was clapping and the music was playing, we would be away from each other,
Starting point is 00:51:19 be away from the cast just talking to each other. And people like, what the fuck? Let me tell you, let me tell you, man. And we all know in terms of comedic chemistry, some of our dance partners were better than others. It's like I love working with Will because I felt like me and Will bang like that. Me and Deborah, me and Moe. And yeah, I worked with Nicole, I worked with Alex, I worked with Michael, but I never felt
Starting point is 00:51:41 like we danced the perfect dance comedically together, like with these guys. Who did you feel that with? The perfect dance, who was your perfect? I'll dance that dance. It probably, no offense, but probably the later generation of people. That's fair. That's very fair.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Like Flanagan, you know what I mean, I did a lot with her and Nicole Parker, these types of people, you know. Ike and I did a lot together her and Nicole Parker, these types of people, you know. Ike and I did a lot together. Ike and Ike Holtz and Ike, yeah. But not that, I like dancing with you guys. And they were very cosmic dance. You and I didn't work a lot together to begin with.
Starting point is 00:52:14 You were my first sketch. Right. Do you know what my first sketch was? No. You were Chris Tucker and I was Jackie Chan. What? That's right. And also Will was Lance Bass, I think, or something.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's this? No, what's this? Is that not it? No, it was where I looked like Chris, and I was Chris Tucker. That was seven buddy cops, wasn't it? Yeah, definitely seven buddy cops.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I think it was, because I actually worked with the actual Jackie Chan as Chris Tucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I pooed in Dick Blasuci's actual Jackie Chan as Chris Tucker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That's why I put in I dick blue sushi's office. Okay, that's good I actually did I wrote with Jackie cuz I wrote a letter and I go dear dick Right. I'm a huge fan of Jackie Chan. I don't even have to have a line Right, just put me in the background. I just want to meet him Then I'm watching mad one day and he's on it with you right and the next day at work I put in his office
Starting point is 00:53:16 is that it no that's not the sketch it was a it was a sketch with with um... No, it's... Yeah, this is it. Yeah. This is exactly what it is. Wow. Yeah, that was it. That was my first sketch.
Starting point is 00:53:30 My first live. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I don't want to see it. Thank you. Yeah, that was it. And um, you know what? You made me feel very comfortable that day.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You were very positive. I've always loved you. I've always loved you too. And my thing was this, I could tell you were nervous and you just needed someone to know that you're on your corner. If you're on this show you fucking belong here and that was my motto. If you're on this show you fucking belong here and you have every right to feel comfortable. Tell them that. You know but I but you know also as a woman I wanted to nurture you because I wanted to feel like you know you were okay on and off the set.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I felt the same about you. You were so nice to me, Mo. Oh my God. That's why you're always my forever person. I remember one time just behind the sets and you were so nervous. It probably was alive. And you were just so nervous. And I'm like, do you know how lucky we are?
Starting point is 00:54:22 We get to go out and make these people laugh. That's why you're here and that's all you have to do. But you were terrified. You were having a bad moment. And I'm like, no. My confidence came after you guys left. When I was like, I became you guys. This is probably why you felt more towards
Starting point is 00:54:39 the Flanagan's and stuff. Because of that. Yeah, that's when I felt my confidence. I'm the old guy now. And you know. But like. But it's nice to have people like Moe be able to, Because of that. Yeah, that's when I felt my confidence. I'm the old guy now. But it's nice to have people like Mo and Aries to be able to eventually pass that baton. Did you guys sense the tension between Bobby and Aries? No.
Starting point is 00:54:56 No. Oh. Yeah, there was no communication. It was all friction. Yeah, but it wasn't even like I went to somebody and said, man, this is fucking Bobby Lee. I just, you know, felt how I felt and I just kept it to myself. I get it, and I didn't know how I felt. And let me tell you something, had he said something to me, he and I would have had a
Starting point is 00:55:15 talk. He and I would have had a talk. Yeah, I wish. Very friendly and caring, but I love him and I know he has the capacity to love others. I love you so much, dude. I really do. Dude, I'm telling you that. I love you and I know he has the capacity to love others. I love you so much, dude. I really do. Dude, I'm telling you that- I love you so much.
Starting point is 00:55:27 People think my, because of my exterior, and I take some of the blame, partly of- Please. Because some of the things I say- I take most of the blame. Because some of the things I say, I know my mouth is my biggest attribute, but I also know it's my biggest detriment.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah. So, but it's like when you really get to know me, know me. Yeah. Dude, come on, man. you really get to know me, know me. Dude, come on man, I ain't that, I ain't that big. I think I'm the only one on Mad TV that's ever seen Aries cry. Oh no, I've seen him cry. Oh, you have?
Starting point is 00:55:52 You've cried? Oh yeah. Okay. Dude, I love Sex and the City. You know I'm vulnerable, man. You know I'm. Yeah, yeah. You say you cry?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Fuck you, Vovie. No, no, why you cry? Why you? Oh my God. Fuck you, man. Why you cry, why you cry? Why you cry? Fuck you man, why you cry Bobby? Why you cry Bobby? My little baby boy, why you cry Bobby? Listen man, listen. You know, when you feel close to people,
Starting point is 00:56:15 and you feel like you can let your guard down, you let it go. But do you remember why he cried about it? I don't know. I'm trying to think, yeah. I do, but that's not up to me to say. Is that me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Who the fuck else do you think that is? You play a lot of women in this show. I know, I know. They didn't know what else to do with me. So did I once Deborah left. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I played all the black women. Yeah, I remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 So why you cry, baby? Do you remember at all? I don't. I do, I do, but that's not up to me to say. Yeah, yeah, okay. But it was, it was. It was tender? No, it was out of a frustration and an anger and feeling.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I know what it is. Yeah. Okay, let's move on. Yeah, listen, dude, I just feel like. Can I just say that when that shit was happening is when I came on. What? When all that stuff was happening. Oh. Right?
Starting point is 00:57:06 And I came into the show with that. Right? And so I could feel it. I didn't know what any of the information was. Because at the time, I thought it was me. At the time I was like, yeah, like, there's something going on. It doesn't feel right.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Right? And only later then I was like, oh, I put everything together. I came in in the wrong time. You know what I mean? Because it's like, I don't know, it was just weird. And we can't talk about it, but yeah, so I understand what it is.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And you know what, I would have cried too. Because it affected everything. Yeah, it affected everything from top to bottom. And I felt it, it was really weird. Like these young kids say now, I'm gonna give you your flowers I just felt like god damn man. I'm gonna get my flowers man. You have your flowers Yeah, listen to me. Listen to me Aries. We're the luckiest people on this planet
Starting point is 00:57:56 We are when you put it in perspective. That's what you Keep it in perspective then put it in perspective and keep it in perspective You know in a right there's a term, wear a new pair of glasses. Just look at it in a certain way, right? Because, you know what I mean? What our brains are thinking is not who we really are, right? It's the observer that's observing the thinking
Starting point is 00:58:20 is who we really are, okay? And always remember this too, whatever you focus on increases. Well, I've been focusing on long time waiting for some sort of increase. Well, you know what I'm saying, whatever you focus on increases, so be careful and full of care what you focus on, bro. Yeah, also, I'm sorry, dude, I played the Columbus Funny Bone recently. Were you just there?
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah, this weekend. Exactly, exactly, right? Yeah. That's an A room. Yeah. You sold good tickets? Sold out. Fuck you then. Yeah. You sold good tickets? Sold out. Fuck you then.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Thank you, Bobby. Fuck you, dog. Thank you, mama. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Let's clap for that. Let's clap for that. Let's clap for that. Wear a new pair of glasses, guy. Yep. Right? And don't stick your tongue out, man. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah, yeah. I just turned 50. I just got these. Yeah, wow. We live better than 99.9% of people. No one's disagreeing with that, but in your heart at night, when you lay your head down on that pillow, you say to yourself, I know I deserve more. No, that's what you said. That's what you said. We don't think that.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I never think a bad guy. I know I deserve more. No, that's what you said. That's what you said. That's what you said. We don't think that. I never think a bad girl. I go in the front like that. I think Aries deserves more in my mind. You know what I'm about to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:59:34 You don't think that? Yeah, I don't think that about you. Based on your level of talent. Yes, I will admit, I wonder why it went a certain way. I have why it went a certain way. I have accepted it, do you know what I'm saying? Doesn't mean I stop doing and being and having the talent that I have, but there's a certain level of acceptance
Starting point is 00:59:56 that after fucking decades, you know, you have to just go, this is my journey. This is what my journey. This is what my journey's gonna be. Not what I thought it was gonna be. And look, I've had some crazy shit happen in my life that I certainly did not think was gonna be part, but that's my journey. And here's the thing, I'm a resilient mofo, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yeah, dog, what's up? So that's. Yeah, do I have this big Hollywood career? I do not and to be perfectly honest I I don't know that that's what I want anymore. I'd like some money, but You know yeah, I What I'm ending up with is a different kind of richness. Cause you're wealthy. And now have I had to choose that in order to have that glass half full? Perhaps, perhaps I have.
Starting point is 01:00:54 But my glass is half full because I see where I've arrived and that is that I'm a resilient motherfucker. You come at me with anything, I'm right there, man. Whether it's good, bad, ugly, fascism, you come the fuck. But I'm right there. I'm strong. Yeah. I'm strong.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Without a bag of cash. Because you know where your real wealth comes from. I do. I do. And it is a life lesson. It is a life lesson. I never felt like anybody owed me shit. For me, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be doing
Starting point is 01:01:29 exactly what I'm supposed to be doing. And for me, it was like, well, what the fuck do I wanna do with my life? Not what a business or career is. I don't call myself having a career, I don't have a career. I have creative opportunities that I can say yes to or no to, bottom line, which is why you don't see me on camera a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I fucking tatted my fucking self up because I don't give a fuck. I'm going to do what I love to do, and the door is open for me in terms of voiceover. I'm going to start tatting myself up. I think some neck patches would be nice. Yeah. Maybe a teardrop.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Oh wow, that's nice. Yeah, okay. Calm down. Yeah. I have one. Maybe a teardrop. Yeah, oh wow, that's nice. Yeah, okay, calm down. Yeah. How do you feel now, Aries? You know, I... I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. You've done well, Aries. And allow what's called.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Hold on, hold on, but I don't wanna be that guy to shit on what y'all saying, because I get where you're coming from. But that- Wait, what did she say? About- In a nutshell, tell me. I don't think you get it.
Starting point is 01:02:31 No, I absolutely get it. I hear it. Well, then tell me what it is. About being satisfied within your own journey, and this is what your journey is. Hallelujah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:41 But what I'm saying is, that sounds good. No, it doesn't sound good. It is good. She's living that. What is missing? What do you want? Because I know you have money. I saw what you rolled up in. I'm driving a Fiat from 2011.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And I'm driving a fucking base model Chevy motherfucking Spark. Roll your windows up, bitch. What are you talking about? What the fuck are you talking about? Where you come from? Where you come from? Nigga I live in a one bedroom apartment.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Don't tell me shit and I'm happier than a motherfucker with a manship. Don't tell me shit about your life. I want to be the motherfucker with the manship. Why? How many rooms do you need? It's just always been my dream since a kid that I wanna be that dude. I wanna be as big as Kevin Hart.
Starting point is 01:03:30 But you are that dude. I think it's the truth. In terms of talent and ability. Right, but you got it. But my pockets don't show that. But you know what, your equation, I get it. But your equation, you'll never be satisfied. I'm just gonna tell you right now.
Starting point is 01:03:43 No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no. What's the number? Stop, what's the number? What's the satisfaction number? Your equation will never be satisfied. Why? Because some other motherfucker will come along
Starting point is 01:03:53 that'll take and blow the world up and you'll wanna be that. And then some other motherfucker will come around and have as talented as you or possibly more and then you're gonna get upset. Because again, you focus on everything that is not you. Everything you want. But not what's in your present space.
Starting point is 01:04:11 No, listen, I hear you but what I'm just saying is when I go to comedy clubs, and listen, I'm not saying this is me saying this. I'm telling you what people have said to me. And they go, yo man, you one of the goats. Yo, you a legend. And I go in my mind, no, no one of the goats. Yo, you a legend. And I go in my mind, no, no, no, stop. Eddie Murphy's a legend.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Richard Pryor is a legend. Dave Chappelle. I'm not damn. And the reason I shut you off is because if they tell you that, shut the fuck up, listen to what they're saying and accept it. Well, I do kinda. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:41 But you always have no Aries because you always have some shit after that to say no, no, no, that's not yours. Hey, but instead of. But what I'm saying is, but what I'm saying is it's hard for me when I hear that nigga, yo, you top five, you up there with Cat Lee, Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And I'm just going, if my talent is that. Aries. Then why Aries? Aries, I have a question for you. Yeah. I'm a question for you. Yeah. If you if tomorrow you got that mansion and that big bag of cash you think a switch is just gonna flip on for you and that you'll automatically be this is what I deserve And I'm a happy man today if tomorrow that happened for you
Starting point is 01:05:29 From that aspect of having it. Let's say you said okay, you want your flowers. You're the goat You've dreamt of this mansion your whole life Yeah if by midnight You move into that mansion of your dreams and you get everything you've ever dreamt about, the money, the bag, the mansion, whatever it is, do you think that you could sit there and be like, okay, I got it, I am fulfilled, I am happy? I would be happy if I got that plus the things that really matter. What are the things that really matter? I'm not a great father to my kids. Oh my God, my heart just exploded.
Starting point is 01:06:05 So I want to tighten up my relationship with my son. Do that and maybe the mansion will fall. And as much as I love the woman who I want to marry for the third time, I cheat. I fuck up with women. So I have a problem with it. But you have holes in your body that not a mansion or a bag of cash will ever fill.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait. If I'm going to fuck up, let me fuck up with the mansion. But not saying I want to fuck up. I'm just simply saying that that exterior shit, that's what I've dreamt about, that's what I want. Now, if I got it tomorrow, that part I could check off the list and go, I got it. But I still would need that other shit to be in place too.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Which one can you control? Why not both? You can't control both. Why not both? Is that how you're going to answer that? Moe, ask it again. Which one can you control? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you want to be rich, you want to be right. Because very rarely in this business can you be both.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And I don't subscribe to that. I think you can be rich and right. Is it a harder path? Dave Chappelle is rich and right. He does whatever he wants. He says whatever he wants. But Dave Chappelle doesn't have the same circumstances. So when you tell me, hey, he's fucking other women, hey, he doesn't have a great relationship
Starting point is 01:07:44 with his kids, then come to me, then step to's fucking other women, hey, he doesn't have a great relationship with his kids, then come to me, then step to me. But you aren't, no. You're telling me you have an opportunity that you can create an opportunity to be wealthy first here and then seat on the outside. You're trying to get it both at the same time. You're never gonna be rich out there.
Starting point is 01:08:02 You know why, motherfucker? Because you ain't rich here. No, right, because you're bankrupt. You're bankrupt, Aries. Aries, you're never gonna be out rich out there. You know why motherfucker? Cause you ain't rich in here. No, right, cause you're bankrupt. You're bankrupt Aries. Aries you're bankrupt. That's a great, that's a great. My thing is this. That's a great chapter in a book.
Starting point is 01:08:13 No, it's the real. Brother, I love you. You are bankrupt. And my thing is this, you don't have to be. I know you, you're a good man. If you wanna be a good father, continue being a good man. I know you Aries, so don't have to be. I know you, you're a good man. If you wanna be a good father, continue being a good man. I know you Aries, so don't fuck with me because right now I'm seeing you
Starting point is 01:08:29 and I'm a little pissed off. I'm a little pissed off. You're a good man. You have- Sometimes too good. You can find out. He's okay. He's okay, man.
Starting point is 01:08:40 No, but it's not. This shit is real. No, but let me tell you something. Don't go for the outside shit. It won't make you happy, and thank you for bringing that up. You can be a good father right now. The things that.
Starting point is 01:08:51 You can be a good man to your wife right now. The things, well wait a minute now. What I'm not gonna do is sit here and completely shit on her. All I'm simply saying is this is a two-sided affair. So what I'm saying is this. Yes, I've done my shit, but she ain't fucking innocent. And one might say, well why even be in that toxic situation?
Starting point is 01:09:12 I don't know, but love is what it is. We got a chemistry and a thing that when we write, we write, but when we not, we not. But couldn't you argue that you just focus on keeping your side of the street clean? Like there's nothing you can do to control a partner, even if you have been together for a really long time. Amen. And marriage, marriage is like, they can't be. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:35 It's like the ocean and ties, they go out, they come back in, but you still stay focused on it. It's not always gonna be that fire. Yeah. You know, sometimes it's just all farts and sometimes you just gotta grow the fuck up. You gotta be a man who continues to grow the fuck up. But I've, I know your, for the people that I love and that I care about, I'll
Starting point is 01:09:59 give you my last fucking dime and Lord knows I have. And I mean, I've just, I've broken bread so many times and felt like I've either been not appreciated for it or taken advantage of it. So there's a part of me that, yeah, I'm angry. I'm fucking angry. You have a right, but you know what? That's why you take that anger and make sure
Starting point is 01:10:18 it's not put in places where it doesn't belong. Cause when life hands you shit, brother love you are minerals. And when you you shit, brother love, you are minerals. And when you put shit and minerals together, you can grow fertilizer and put and grow more than you've ever thought you could grow. That's what I'm saying. Plant a radish.
Starting point is 01:10:32 But my thing is this. Don't do that. My thing is this. Thank you and thank you because those are the things you can't control. You can't control whether you get a mansion or not. So you could be chasing your tail. You never want to outrun the spaces
Starting point is 01:10:45 you can take care of as a man in order to run to keep up with shit that you don't have that is a dream. Let it go for now, take care of the reality, and trust that whatever is meant to come will come. Because who knows, the man you grow into, like Moe, you may decide, I don't even know if I want that anymore.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Because I found that my relationship with my son, my relationship with my children, you may not know that Aries until you start moving in that direction. You know what I'm saying? That's how you grow yourself. You better know yourself. I want to remind everybody this is a comedy podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I know, right? I think this isn't quite the same. This isn't quite the same at all. But you know, Bobby and I were together for a decade. And we were stuck in this small, tight two bedroom apartment that Mo you were in. And his career wasn't going well. I was, fuck, what the fuck was I doing with my life?
Starting point is 01:11:35 Dude, so when the, When we thought, When Hangover, right, and I called my agent, I could not audition for that part, the Ken Jeong Park. Hangover, they go, we don't even wanna see him. They wouldn't even let me audition. Not for Crazy Rich Asians. Not for Crazy Rich Asians.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Not for Hangover. The interview. Not the interview when he could have played like Kim Jong. Yeah, they call and they go, we don't wanna see him. Right, so he was. They wouldn't even let me in the room. So my point is that I feel what you're saying, right? Cause I'm a very funny guy. I'm as funny as those guys. I know their talent levels.
Starting point is 01:12:04 I'm very good, You know what I mean? But I had that's my reality and I just kind of shifted into things that I can control But what I found which is this podcast wait go ahead my most the most interesting thing was that we were so sure Because we were going through personal stuff relationship stuff And we were so sure that the moment that we moved in to a big house in a nice neighborhood with a yard for our dogs that somehow magically our relationship would be saved. And the moment we got exactly what we fantasized for years about our relationship unraveled. And it's all of this to say you think you want it so bad and that's
Starting point is 01:12:46 going to be your salvation, but the moment you get there, there are other things that were far more important that you weren't willing to address along the way. And that's what we failed to do as a couple. And I just, I mean, it's just one of the, a testament to you think you want it till you get there. And I think that for now, you've had such an exceptional journey that is far from over, that there is so much work to be done. And if you just maybe focus on getting all of those things done, your kids most importantly,
Starting point is 01:13:17 I think that you can have it all. You can be rich and right, and it's not over. And yeah, that was my two cents. Thank you, it's more than two cents. That was a million dollars worth. Thank you, Deborah. Yeah. And I wanna, can I say one last thing?
Starting point is 01:13:33 May I say one last thing? Yes. Okay. Is that television film, it doesn't do what you think it does anymore. It's dead. Well, it's not like I'm saying- What I'm saying, let me talk, it's my show. All right?
Starting point is 01:13:45 You're a little sad little creature, aren't you? Oh, my little broken little sad creature. Oh my God. I just want to curdle you. I don't curdle. God. Yeah, whatever. Curdle this.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I want to churn you, dude. Like a butter. Like butter, dude. You know what I mean? No diddy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But my point is this, is it's dead.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Like I know dudes in my life that are series regular on a couple of shows. No one knows their name. They don't make any money, right? They don't make any money? They make some? I mean, they make, they don't make what, they make less than what we made on Mad,
Starting point is 01:14:24 which was the lowest that you can make would you make In the beginning yeah four thousand dollars an episode yeah, what'd you end up at? They can ask you a question for yeah, what'd you end up at 15? Great, would you end up at 20 fuck my life? You ended up at? 15. Great. What'd you end up at? 20. Fuck my life. You ended up at 20? I ended up at 15. And they-
Starting point is 01:14:51 You ended up at 20? Like you said, you're done. Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Even though when I went beyond the contract, they're like, they're not going- What did you end up? Bobby, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:14:59 What are you doing, Bobby? You ended up at 15? Yeah. Me and Michael got 20. See what I'm talking about? Michael- Does it burn? God damn right it does. My little broken creature. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Me and Michael got 20. See what I'm talking about? Michael. Does it burn? God damn right it does.
Starting point is 01:15:07 My little broken creature? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you sad? A little dumb?
Starting point is 01:15:15 It's just numbers. Yeah, they're just numbers, they're. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why. In comparison to my life, they're just numbers. I don't know why, when, I don't know why they just, my agents just did it. I don't know, I didn, my agents just did it. I don't know, I didn't ask for it.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Really? Well, I remember there was a point in time where they didn't even. You didn't even have to try. Bobby stop, Bobby, Bobby stop. What's it like not having to try? Oh Bobby, do tell us, what's that like? To not have to try where they just hand you things.
Starting point is 01:15:45 It was years later when you left. It was my seventh and eighth year. You were long gone. No, I know. You know what I mean? That's all. It's called- And I haven't seen that kind of money since.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Inflation. Inflation. Inflation, thank you. And my thing is- And shit is going way down now. You know what? Good for you. Thank you so much, Deborah.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Give me a high five. Absolutely. I didn't say I was unhappy for it. No, no, no, not you. I'm just saying for me. You know what, good for you. Thank you so much, Deborah. Give me a high five. Absolutely. No, no, no, not you. I'm just saying for me. I'm just going good for you. Well, it should have been it should. Things should keep going up from there. Unfortunately, they've gone way down.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I don't know about the rest of you, but yeah. It's so funny. It's gone down. Yeah, way down, way down. What I'm saying is that what you think, it's not what? You get a lead in the movie. Well, it's not like I'm sitting back. Nothing's gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:16:27 It's not like I'm sitting back waiting for something. I'm putting some shit together myself. I'm gonna tell you something right now, the last thing, because it's my show, can I just say one last thing? Yes. So one day I was watching, I was at the Laugh Factory and I ran into Marilyn Rice Cup.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Oh yeah. And she goes, can you, so I brought her to the comedy store and I introduced, you know, the talent coordinator to Marilyn. And I go, you're on TV shows, why do you want to do stand-ups? She goes, this is the future. I go, what do you mean? It's like, I want to build my own franchise. You know what I mean? Because being, you know what I mean, going through these, what do you call it, roadblocks and these people that make decisions for you, one day my time is going to be up and I want to have my own thing I can control, right?
Starting point is 01:17:10 And she kind of opened my mind up to like, you know what, I think the path that I'm in is probably the right one. That's really, you know, it's like with my management, I've said to them, you know, I'm not going to take certain things just to go work, you know, I would rather if I'm not gonna take certain things just to go work. I would rather, if I'm gonna disappear in this business, which is sort of happening with Hollywood, that's fine. But you know what remains is the Mo Collins that I built. I would rather just not work and let the things that I've done that I made a name for myself with live,
Starting point is 01:17:44 whether it's mad TV stuff or parks and recreation, that Mo Collins will live for us. I'd rather just let that live and go away than go on and do some, you know, just non-character thing, some guest star that's nothing or a co-star or something where sure, I'll get, you know, a thousand dollar check or something, 2,000, but I a $1,000 check or something, 2,000, but I don't wanna do that and disappear like that,
Starting point is 01:18:08 because even though you show up in those little ways, they're like, ugh, that's that Moe Collin? I don't want that. I'd rather die and just let the things that I did that are my brand or whatever, I want those to be my legacy. You've had a great legacy. Yeah, I have.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Right? I have. In Parks and a great legacy. Yeah, I have. Right? I have. In Parks and Rec. Totally, totally. The Walking Dead show. Those are huge things. More than I've ever done. More than I've ever done.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And I've been in this business for 35 years. I'm completely happy, proud of what I have done. And it's because a lot of the reason it's so great is because of the no's that I did put out there. No, I will not do that. Can I just say I love your character, I'm Park Jong. Oh, thanks. I what?
Starting point is 01:18:52 Jong. I mean, Park Jong. Yeah. You said Park Jong. I love your character, Jong. This is my sidekick. He didn't say shit. Let me just say something.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Wait, I'm a nobody. Hold on a second. Wait, wait, hold on. I wanna hear this, Bobby. Let me just say something. Hold on a second. I want to hear this Bobby. I want to fucking hear this. I'm a nobody. I'm a comedian. I'm 28 but I love watching this because I grew up watching
Starting point is 01:19:16 Mad TV. Big inspiration from everybody. Thank you. And you too Bobby. My son is older than you. That's crazy. That's crazy that you were a brand new mom trying to figure out a life in LA. Yeah. That's nuts to me. With a baby.
Starting point is 01:19:33 It was wild. I know. It was wild. He was too when I came out. That's insane. And you know, those early, like, you know, sometimes I remember like going to pick him up from school or whatever, like, you know like in my Doreen curlers or whatever. Do you remember Big Hands?
Starting point is 01:19:49 My ex-husband. Yeah, yeah. I call him Big Hands. I know you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had large hands. No, no. Gill, what?
Starting point is 01:19:55 Why are you so excited about that? I know. Just put your hand up. This is my hand. Put your hand like this. You know what I mean? You should see how big my husband's hands are now, the new one.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Bigger? Jesus Christ. Yeah. What, I like hands. Yeah. What are you doing? I have a thing for hands too, so I get it. You got somewhere else to be?
Starting point is 01:20:14 No, no, I was just checking something. You got a little click? No, not at all. A little notification? Not at all. Swipe it to the left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, wow, wow, Raya, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:20:24 Not at all. All right, okay, good. What did we learn? left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, wow. Mariah, what's going on? Not at all. All right, okay, good. What did we learn? Oh. Oh, well. Were we supposed to learn something? Okay, this is where now I was involved. Hold up, real quick.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Yeah, yeah. Is this almost over? No. Oh, because I want to- And when we land. No, but I want to do something with Debra before we go. I want to make sure I- We'll do that.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Okay. When we fucking do it. Yes, sir. All right That's a nice. That's a nice picture. Yeah Who's the girl above me? Oh That was uh, yeah, Jill Michelle. Yeah. Yeah. Wow And then where's is this your last year Deborah? No, what season is this? Season eight, I believe.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Oh, that was season eight then, season eight or season seven? I thought that was seven. Oh, this might be seven, actually. It's not seven, it's eight. It has to be eight. No, I think that's seven. What does it say?
Starting point is 01:21:16 It says season eight. Season eight. It is? It's season eight, yeah, because- Yeah, that was like my last year. Yeah, because she came on my second year, Jill Michelle. Okay. Yeah, so that was your last year.
Starting point is 01:21:26 That was my last year. Last year, Aries? Yeah. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. You went on after me. No. No.
Starting point is 01:21:32 You did not. Because you were, you bled in with the Key and Peele era, the Ike era. Right, I did not, I was done. This is season seven, I wasn't in that fucking year. You did the outro, remember? That day when you told everybody I was leaving. You did the outro.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Can you pull up season nine real quick? Yep. Season nine. Is that season nine? Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're there. And then that's Ron Peterson. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Ike and Josh. Wow. Paul Vought. Paul Vought. Paul Vought, love him. That's Vought. Paul Vought, loved him. Wow. That's you Mo, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah. Stephanie Weir. Yeah. You know, I'll be honest with you. You know who, you know, Mike didn't talk to me for years either, the first couple of years. Didn't talk to you? No, at all.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I was so scared of him that I would just, if I could see him down the hallway, you know over at Hollywood Center Studio? Yeah. I would turn the other way. I was just so nervous around him. Me and Mike had a weird relationship too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Yeah, you guys. I think I told you, he reached out to me, I think I reached out to him on Twitter, and he was like, oh, I thought you died. And I was like, oh, I thought you had AIDS. Yeah, yeah. It goes right back to him. But what I realized is that's, you had eight. Yeah, yeah. It goes right back to him. What I realized is that's just who he is.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Yeah. Oh, that's just who he is. Silly old Mike, you know what I mean? I did Sling Up Together and he directed an episode. And it was like, you know, since Matt, I was series regular only on two shows. But when he came on direct, it was just, I don't know, I just felt so happy. Oh. He was just, we were giggling and yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Why he hasn't cast me in anything yet. Yeah. Because I don't think episodic directors have control in casting. Oh, OK. I mean, do they? I don't know. No.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I don't know. I don't know anything. What's the lesson you were on screen on anything? Television or film-wise? Because I,'t know. No. I don't know, I don't know anything. What's the lesson you were on screen on anything? Television or film-wise, because I, if anything. Either, either. I did, I worked on three independent projects in the last year to two years. But there, and my thing is this, I'm like Moe.
Starting point is 01:23:38 I want to do it because it has heart, it has soul, and I know there's no money involved, but I want to have a creative space that I just say, how can I be of service in this space? I'll shoot you my script. And so, I always, I'm always open, I don't care what it is, I'm always open to someone says, listen, I have this creative space,
Starting point is 01:23:55 and I want you a part of it. And I told my agent, I said, I'll never be your moneymaker, I will never be your moneymaker, but if there's somebody who comes along and has a creative space that I feel like I can blend with, all I wanna do is tell people stories. And so that's why VoiceOver for me has been massive. It's been massive.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Money-wise, no, but is it massive in terms of telling stories and being all these things and having a rep in it? Yes. And I'm a gamer, so when I'm at home, there's been some games where I'm like, what do you play? It's Deborah. Oh, that's great. Oh, yeah. What do you a gamer, so when I'm at home, there's been some games where I'm like, what do you play? It's Deborah.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Oh, that's great. Oh, yeah. What do you play? What do you play? You were on, what's the, the zombie game, Days, Days. Days Gone.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Days Gone. What'd you play in that? And the last, and. Call of Duty. Call of, a couple of Call of Duties. Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order. Yeah, and that was the other thing that creeped me out. It was your likeness.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Wow, wow, wow. That's wild. That's wild. Oh my gosh. That's incredible. That is not Orlando Jones. So God of War Ragnarok. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yeah, wow. Suicide Squad killed the Justice League. Yeah. Wow, you did a lot of that. I actually played all those games. Wow. I know your agent, Brittany. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I love her. Yeah. He's amazing. He's amazing. Yeah. And I told him, I'm like, you know, so I'm just going to, I'm going to keep living life because life is going to keep doing what it does. So I'm just going to keep doing what I do. Amen. Mama. I have lots of animals too. So I mean. How many do you have? Twenty what what oh my god of what?
Starting point is 01:25:28 Hamsters the snakes and stuff I have the crickets I Have well now I'm I had I had Six snakes I'm down to one snake I had Snakes I've had everything from snakes, tarantulas, lizards, frogs, toads, you name it. I have, yeah, that was Lizzie. Let me ask you something about snakes. Do they recognize you?
Starting point is 01:25:58 They recognize your smell. They don't recognize you. So yeah, because I have a right now, I have a mess named black king snakes about five feet long. Yeah, and I had 16 tarantulas, then went down to six and then two, and then I rehomed them. And I used to be a,
Starting point is 01:26:17 I also used to do that with a wrangle scorpions as well. Do you have regular animals, like regular ones? They are regular animals. They are regular animals. Just accept that. Just they're regular animals like regular ones like they are animals? They are regular animals just accept that yes They're they're exotic animals what I'm saying what I'm saying is is you have like traditional on pets like a dog or a cat All of them are traditional animals and traditional pets go with it Because there's a huge there's a huge world out there that you have a dog or a cat I also have a dog okay good, but there's a huge world out there of people who have exotics and it's very common in the hobby.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Yeah, yeah, I understand that. You know what I mean? I've been to Hot Topic, I've seen them. I have a small dog. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a 210 pound dog. That's normal.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Is it? I don't think it is. Is it a Mastiff? Dane Mastiff. Wow. 210 pounds. When you said 210, I'm like, yeah. When they say they have dogs, probably.
Starting point is 01:27:03 And then a little pit bull. You're a little hungry? Okay, Ares just had a joke, there was a little talking over it. Tell the joke again, please. And when they mention dogs, you get a little bit hungry? And that's the show, everybody. Ah!
Starting point is 01:27:14 Woo! No, no, no, no. A little. My point is, no, I have four dogs. Oh, that's right, yeah. You have three cats, no. I love them like my family. Yeah, okay I have a cat too. Yeah, do you fight your dogs?
Starting point is 01:27:30 How does it feel? How does it feel? Okay, I could I could go there too aries don't worry because I I'm working in my head But i'm like, you know, I couldn't pull it off. It's the same way you do. Yeah, you got another dogging joke Yeah, okay. Let's see your version. Let's see your version. Okay, so do you walk your dog? Oh, there's a dog? Oh, do you see that? I like that one. You walk your dog.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Okay, Mel Collins, your turn next. What's your agent's name? Oh, please, let's say this thing. Oh, Bobby. Yeah, yeah. You gotta do a dog eating joke. I'm not done. I got one more.
Starting point is 01:27:57 I got one more. I love dogs too, but like you, I can't eat a whole one by myself. Wow, wow. That's another go at it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Are you serious? You're gonna ask the white lady? I can't eat a whole one by myself. Wow, wow. That's another one, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Are you serious? You're gonna ask the white lady? Oh yeah, you're right, you're right. That would come back on me so fast and hard. That's not right. Okay, okay, yeah. Mo wrote the second one. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I had nothing to do with it. Don't get me in trouble, god damn it. Is that your master? That's Walter, yeah. Oh, that's good. Oh, my god. Is that your master? That's Walter, yeah. Oh, that's good, yeah. Oh my god. His head is bigger than yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I don't have dogs because I'm scared of them. Oh really? Come over and meet Walter. He's the most docile dog you could possibly have. Yeah, his head is bigger than yours, but Aries' head is bigger than his. Maybe. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:39 You have a very big head, huh? Both. Are you working it? Which is why it always gets you in trouble. No, honestly, let's be honest. You're dick big? Not at all. I'm girthy though.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Oh God. Like a spam tank. There's just things you don't wanna know. You know what I mean? Like the kind of Pringles can, not the whole one, but the- Oh, the little one? The little Pringles, yeah. That seems like it hurts.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Okay. Has everyone here seen your friend? Who? tokyo tokyo the dumb dumb scene in Vegas No, let me ask you something. Oh my one time. Oh my god in Vegas. Holy shit. That was insane That trip I had a kid dragged me by my hair through two casinos because I had my penis out. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah, so many fucking the hotel? Yeah. Yeah, so many hotel. Yeah I was just being dragged like this. It was crazy. You relapse. Yeah when I relapse. Yeah Yeah, I mean that that trip started with you sitting next to me on the airplane and you pulled out a Baggie of all kinds of I do you remember that you let it's I'm like Bobby. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:29:41 I know put that away like I got Terrified I got terrified. I got in trouble because one of the strokes played. So the strokes that get banned. And so I heard a week later that Drew Barrymore was dating the drummer and she was mad at me because he almost overdosed because of the drugs I had in my pocket.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She came to the set and she was not happy. She came to watch the band. Yeah, yeah, I. I do that too. She came to the set and she was not happy. Yeah, yeah. She came to watch the band. Yeah, yeah. I had a big bowl of drugs in my dressing room. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:11 It was bad. But anyway, let's talk about the good times. Okay. Do a funny giggle like that, please. Do what? Funny giggle. What we just did, we all did improv. You were funny. Aries. Yeah, Aries. We all did improv. You was funny.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Aries. Yeah Aries. Stop everyone quiet. Aries. Aries. Please. Aries please. I'm too cool.
Starting point is 01:30:33 No no no. Aries you gotta do it dude. Yeah yeah yeah. Cause it's as good as it's gonna get. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Here's what I want to do something with Debra real quick. Okay. Because I was so envious of this.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Okay. Remember when they did the soprano sketch on Mad and you did that kick ass Dr. Melfi and then Will did Tony? Mm-hmm. I was such a soprano's fan. I know. That I never could do a Tony soprano.
Starting point is 01:31:00 So now I think I've mastered it. Okay. So I want you to be Dr. Melfi. So Tony, when you walk in here, what are you bringing with you inside of you? Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. You got to be fucking serious. I did it.
Starting point is 01:31:19 The problems with my kids matter with AJ and calm. And are you going to give it to me? I gave her my fucking sister Janice and Uncle Jun and Daddy Shaq. I'm tellin' you what the fuckin' is. Jesus fuckin' Christ. But why do you have so much anger in you right now? It's got nothing to do with anger. It's all the pent-up emotion from all the shit
Starting point is 01:31:36 that I went through with my mother. My father was a, she fuckin' drove him crazy. Sanics, pills, almost fuckin' suicide. I'm Connie Chung. Wow, Bobby. That was brilliant. That was brilliant. That was more than pretty good.
Starting point is 01:31:54 That was spot on. What other impressions did we not know about that you've been working on? Oh, but his Denzel is... No, stop, stop, stop. I stopped doing that. No, because of a brother named C King. He shut it down. Really?
Starting point is 01:32:09 His Denzel, his Denzel, like Frank Kelly and those Madden. It just was on lock. Okay. Yeah, I didn't. I like your Shaq impression. So I dominate 24 and 10. He's a 24 and 10, that's barbecue chicken. You got dominated that big man house, I know that. That's great. Mo, that's barbecue chicken. You got Dominick in that pay big man house,
Starting point is 01:32:25 I know that. That's great. Mo, do you have any impressions? Yeah, I know it's never won, I just don't know how to do it. I did a shit ton on MADtv. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's not like I went, I left the show and went,
Starting point is 01:32:37 I'm gonna continue coming up with impressions. Yeah, yeah. You know, but I did them. I do a black lady, cause I got it from Aries. I do a black lady Al Pacino. Oh, we'd love to hear it. Black lady Al Pacino? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:51 So, Aries, I used to watch you do it fast, quick, smart. Yeah, loved what you did. So I took it to the next level. Wow. Shaved my head, got tattooed. Yeah, you started, but I finished it. Do Daenerys. That scared the shit out of me.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Yeah. Oh God. Wow. Incredible. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, is there anything else you guys want to say? Can I ask one last question?
Starting point is 01:33:21 Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Like, do you guys think like we can bring back MadTV? Like they tried. Wait, wait, wait. Well, not that they tried. Wait, did you do that or no? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did too. Did you do it? You can't do it. It was horrendous. It was CW. It doesn't work. Like just that, that, that and the time slot was nine. That's what I'm saying. Prime time and CW, you cannot, it was a late night Fox show when it was, Fox was cable. In the 90s.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Yeah, like you cannot do it. You can't do it anymore. You don't think so? And not like that. And if they tried, I would have no part of it. If they tried, I would have absolutely no part of it. Is that only because they wouldn't give us the freedom that we had then?
Starting point is 01:34:03 No, but I'm a different person. Really? Yeah. yeah, those days are done. Those days are done for me. Okay, yeah. What did you play on the new one, the new mad? Oh, shit, I think it's Cosby. We did Cosby, remember? Oh, so you did it too? As guest stars. Yep. As guest stars. Only as guest stars. Do you remember what you did? They had me do Lorraine. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. Whatever other sketches, I, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, true, right? Hot dog! Uh oh, hot dog. Oh, this is it. Yeah, yeah. Oh my god. Like I had never left. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was crazy. Yeah, that looks like Matt. Yeah, that was Matt. That was actually fun to do with Ike. Yeah. It'd be fun to do, like I miss doing sketch. I really do.
Starting point is 01:35:09 I miss it all. I miss working. But I do miss... I'm not going to cry. I told myself I wasn't going to cry. But I do, I miss comedy so much. You know, like I would love to... Mo, I really strongly suggest you do stand up again. I miss comedy so much. You know, like I would love to be doing comedy.
Starting point is 01:35:25 I really strongly suggest you do stand up again. I probably should. And really dedicate yourself to it. Oh, wow. Because I'm being real. If you got 30 minutes, right, 25 to 30 minutes. Well, I mean, I still do go out and do like. You would open for me and I do pretty big rooms.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I pay you well, you know what I mean? I mean, you know what I mean? I still go out and do 20. Yeah, but Aries and I would help big rooms, I pay you well. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? We would- I still go out and do 20. Yeah, but Aries and I would help you, right? Like, imagine Moe as a feature. Yeah. Okay, that's, this is-
Starting point is 01:35:52 That was a no. That was a no. Yeah, that was a no. That was a no, dude. That was totally a no. Oh, you're not a good actor, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, yeah!
Starting point is 01:36:01 Absolutely. That didn't help. You at her and say absolutely. Absolutely. Liar. Now, I love doing standup. I really do. I love it. But you know, it's also, it's a little different as a pretty much 60 year old woman.
Starting point is 01:36:19 I don't know, man. I do. I do because I am that. I know, but I- No, but I'm going to disagree to a certain extent because know, but I see. No, but I'm gonna disagree to a certain extent because Mo, you're you. No, and I agree. And I, you know, people do like, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:31 when I was headlining and stuff, I would interject, you know, Doreen or Lorraine, because I'm there to give them what they want. It wasn't, I would just throw it out here and there and that satisfied them and it was great. And I know why people go to those shows and why they would be there was to see Mo Collins from MADtv.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yeah, I know that. Yeah. You know, and the rest is all dry pussy shit. Yeah. Man paws. You know what I'm saying? Vaginismus, all the good stuff. Wherever you are in your life is still highly valued
Starting point is 01:37:00 because you don't, but see that's right, because you're not looking at the outside. I have to look at it from the outside because you have to remember something. I'm not just shut up I'm not just your friend. I'm your fan So I'm telling you as an older woman looking at you even if I was younger I want to be able to glean some information Laugh at what you have to say and hear where you are now instead of you feeling like you have to be
Starting point is 01:37:22 Performative in a different way. And I love that about, like, I mean, my standup is very truthful, honest, it's where I'm at, you know, and I do love that, but I just don't, I don't see, I don't see. Okay. That's okay that you don't see it, because I see it, I see it as gold, fucking gold.
Starting point is 01:37:42 It's insane. It's insane. Here's what I do wanna do, and I'm gonna put this on the, I'm gonna say this in the mic right now, put in and out there. Here's a show I've done a couple times for myself. It's called Mo Collins is Wigging Out. Now it's taking everything that I am
Starting point is 01:37:53 that I'm really good at. It's me, it's my standup aspect. I go out, I dump 50 fucking wigs on the stage, and I have people, a person will come up and pick a wig, and there's a mirror on stage, and I'll people, a person will come up and pick a wig and there's a mirror on stage and I'll get suggestions from the audience and I create a character in front of them and do a monologue or whatever. That's so fun.
Starting point is 01:38:12 And then I tease and have fun with the audience because I'm really good at that. And that's, I should be touring that. Yes. That's brilliant. And that's the theater show rather than the stand up. And that's what I would love to do. Okay, then do it. And you know how you start that? In your stand up act, that's the last thing you do.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Do your stand up, do 10 minutes of stand up, and then do that one thing. That's how the ball gets rolling. Cause now audience have seen that, and they know they're not gonna see the same fucking thing twice. Mo, you are fucking gold. I'm also tired. You're gonna find your energy because what's gonna happen is it's gonna start to steamroll. I think
Starting point is 01:38:52 that's genius and I think starting it with stand-up first and then doing that as the last thing before you get off stage. Let people roar and laugh. Moe, again, I'm not telling you this as someone in the industry. I'm telling you this as a fucking fan. I appreciate that. I'm your hugest fan. That's really cool. You're so fucking talented.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Thank you, I appreciate that. One of my favorite jokes by you is when you tell a joke where you go, your dad says, if you get everybody die. Oh, thank you. First time I heard that, I was in fucking tears. Thank you so much. The way you say that with that delivery, oh my God. Thank you god Thank you so much. I'm doing my first special on Hulu and I should film it in January. Oh
Starting point is 01:39:31 No, I'm gonna this January. Oh, wow Never done a special before some congratulations. Have you really not never done one now all the years all the years The many years that I lived yeah Been doing stand-up, I mean, I'm actually surprised, because I feel like everybody, I mean. Well, here's, I mean, back to what areas it feels, it's like. Everybody but you. I know, what I'm saying is it's like.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Alex Borstein did a special. There's, you know, people like, like, I'm doing it for Hulu, but imagine the other companies. They didn't want anything to do with me. Really? We would call, they would, nothing. So it's like, I went with. You're kidding me.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Where the love is. I only, I'm a nice guy. I really am, I'm very generous. We're not debating, we will after the show. I feel like I'm a nice guy in this and that, right? And I'm like, you know, I'm willing to do, work with anybody, but it's like, you know, I go where the love is because I don't,
Starting point is 01:40:23 I'm so sensitive, you know what I mean? And so Hulu's been loving to you? They were just out of the gate's like, you know, I go where the love is because I don't, I'm so sensitive, you know what I mean? Like I don't like rejection. And so Hulu has been loving to you? They were just out of the gate, like, what do we need to do to make this happen? So I was like, I'll go here because it's, you know. Yeah, I'm not gonna like showcase a thousand times and do any of that.
Starting point is 01:40:36 What are you looking at, dog? You. Okay. I was looking in your eyes while you say that. All right, so I wanna say this last thing, okay? You know in my life, you know, I don't know what I'm gonna die but I think that none of us do I know I understand that yeah, but if there was like six chapters in my life, I think mad TV would be one whole chapter It I look back at it as I learned so much on that show I relapse on that show, but then I got sober on that show.
Starting point is 01:41:07 You mean I got to work with all the generations because I was in the middle. You know what I mean? So I got you guys and then I got the new kids like Josh and Ike and Jordan and all those guys, Nicole Parker, Keegan, you know what I mean? And so I look back at that as a really fond memory. And I'll tell you another thing,
Starting point is 01:41:26 is that I wish I appreciated it. Like at live shows, you're getting set up, it's dark. I remember me and I did a sketch where it bombed so badly. And so, you know what I mean? And after the sketch was done, him and I collapsed on the ground and we started laughing because we bombed so bad. But all those little experiences,
Starting point is 01:41:46 I cherish in my heart. So much. And nothing's ever matched it in my life, in my career. This is a different experience and I love it here too and Tiger Belly and Bad Friends, all the things I do, are also chapters in my life probably, but I look back at it and so when I see you guys, I don't see you guys as even stand-ups like I grew up with in a completely
Starting point is 01:42:09 different thing like we went to war together. It really holds something like it is very different after all the other shows I've done and stuff. Mad TV does hold this very extraordinary space. It's totally in agreement. Because there's also a personal dynamic, not just a work dynamic and a career dynamic. I mean, there was a personal dynamic. Everyone was going through some shit and you are exposed to a certain extent
Starting point is 01:42:35 and raw to a certain extent. And I think that's what's powerful because the things you remember were not just about the show, but how you grew. It was family. Yes. And still is. I feel family. Yes. And still is. I feel that. Yeah, it still is.
Starting point is 01:42:47 That's what is sort of proof of it. Like we're sitting here today, and I know that you're my family. Whether I see you much or not, you got to call me, Aries. Yeah. But you know, it's- Good luck getting that one. It's never going to happen.
Starting point is 01:43:02 But it goes right back to who we were, even though we've grown so much since then, whatever, but there's a place that we return to that could feel it driving over here. It's like I could feel whatever DNA I still have in me that is that person that would go to work at MADtv every day. And it's cool, it's a good feeling, it's comfortable.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Especially knowing these were the three that showed up. I was over the moon thrilled. Over the moon thrilled. Aries, any last... You know, man, I... You didn't like it? No, I... I love SNL. I wouldn't have been here if it wasn't, you know, something that, you know, was in my heart,
Starting point is 01:43:45 you know what I mean? Like, No, I don't know me, be specific. I'm saying, I hadn't seen Deborah since the last time I saw her, you know, I always, I always feel good when I post something on Instagram and Moe comments, cause I don't see Moe. So it's like, oh shit, she ain't, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:01 she ain't forgotten about me. You know what I mean? So, you know, and again, I know it was kind of tough getting you and me on the right page, but now that that's happened, I wouldn't have missed this for the world. Like I said, I was a little disappointed that Will didn't show up.
Starting point is 01:44:16 He's done this so many times. I know, but Will is like, like I said, he was one of the guys comed comedically, I just danced with. You know what I mean? He really is a glue. Don't you think? I totally agree. Because he's the unexpected glue.
Starting point is 01:44:33 And a good guy. A good guy. Yeah, yeah. Probably fans don't necessarily think that as far as the family aspect goes. Yeah. Will was a glue. I don't know that there was anybody that in the cast, no matter when, that did not get along with Will. Unlike you, Arias, when I first got on the show, even though I was
Starting point is 01:44:53 nervous and even though I bombed at table reads and all that stuff, he wouldn't find him in his house. He would go out. We'd go to a farmer's market. We'd go to parties together. Yeah. So, unlike you, he is different. You're a glue in a sense that, like, you know, it's not that sticky. Yeah, the glue's not that sticky, but, you know, I think we're sticking now. Yeah, listen, I'm where I am now. I love you, bud.
Starting point is 01:45:16 I'm where I am now out of maturity, because for a long time, I was on my attitude shit. Like, I was on my, I'm Airy Spears, I'm the shit. You've softened. I think you've softened. I've been softened. No, you've softened. Not been, you are softened.
Starting point is 01:45:35 You're a softer guy. And I think that honestly, I think that if you got- Be okay with that, that's not a bad thing. Nah, I, you know. You're reachable. And I wanna say this, and I think that if you got everything that you ever wanted, you wouldn't be soft. I think that you'd be alone.
Starting point is 01:45:49 I'm like Mike Tyson now. But there was a point in time where I was trying to bite ears and. Yeah, yeah. Mike's very nice. I had that, that, that ferociousness in me out of. I mean, he was every way champion, but okay, compare yourself. One of the greatest boxers in the world. I'm like Mike Tyson. I can see it too. champion but okay compared to but yeah man I hear what you're saying you know I
Starting point is 01:46:15 don't think you do but I really do all right all right you know yeah any last words because let me say something this is way better than I ever would even dream of doing. He was very nervous before this. I was so nervous. Were you really? Oh yeah, because I was like, I mean, how long have we done? What?
Starting point is 01:46:34 How long have we done? Oh, almost like, yeah, almost two hours, three hours. Yeah, we do one hour. And I have to count, like sometimes when I'm doing an hour, I'll be like, we must be done by now, and I'll look down and it's like, I told you when the music's right, dance motherfucker. We was dancing.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Yes, okay. You can say it. All right. There's no, there's no, yo, we gotta go in a sequential order. No, the music is playing. Yeah, yeah, still, dog. All right, homie?
Starting point is 01:47:01 I got you, baby. I got you, baby, too. And so I'll say the last word, if you may, if I may. I love you guys so much, and I really appreciate you showing up for me. I love you, Bobby. This is a big deal. This is my 500th episode of this podcast.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Love you, Bobby. And I couldn't dream of anyone better than you guys. You're looking mostly at Aries. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I had George Lopez yesterday, you know what I mean? But you guys are just as good. Yeah, just as good. No, honestly, thank you so much, and I love you.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I love you. Give them a round of applause. Sacrebelly 500. Let's go another five. Let's go another five. I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop
Starting point is 01:47:52 I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop I'm a cup of lollipop You know Jaime? Are you crazy? Jaime, I don't think I've ever seen your hair. On my head or on my head?
Starting point is 01:48:07 Talk it to the mic. Your head ever. On my head or your what? What else would the hair be on? Well you have a bigger head than Gilbert. Mike. Yeah. It's like a bowling ball.
Starting point is 01:48:18 But it's like. Yeah, yeah. It's a perfect circle almost. But it's not flat in the back. It looks nice. Can I see your back? Yeah. It's a little. almost. But it's not flat in the back, it looks nice. Can I see your back? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:48:27 It's a little. Be honest with me. It's a Franken head at the back. Look at it. Let me see. What? Yeah, yeah. You know what they say.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Let me see the back, all the way in the back. No. No. Let me see the back all the way. You have the same head as me. Yeah, that's it. He has good hair, thick hair. You have nice hair.
Starting point is 01:48:46 I had to shave it. I mean, if you were gonna rate him, what would it be? Um, like physicality? Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything. I give Jaime a solid overall seven. That's so generous. You're such a fucking liar. You're so lucky that you said that.
Starting point is 01:49:06 You're a liar fast. That's crazy. But you're also asking a person, like on a scale of zero to Bobby, he's a seven. Like you're my ten. No. Let me just say something, okay? We're talking about... Just take it. World metrics. Just take it.
Starting point is 01:49:21 What are the world... Okay, give me a zero to what Brad Pitt? So to me I'll tell you, okay so I think that like, I even think like Michael Cera is a five. Okay. You know what I mean? Five, you put him at a five, okay. He's a five or six, average. Is that just physical or like his career and No that's without career.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Career makes him nine. Physical only. Yeah, so and then let me get, let's see. Give me a two. A two? Alex, you're a two? Yeah, you're a two. Yeah, yeah, you're a two.
Starting point is 01:49:52 You're a two or three. Oh, wait, or three? What makes it a three? What is he wearing when it gives him a three? When he opens his mouth and I'm fond of him, I go, oh, maybe it's a three. Oh, it's a sliding scale. But when I first see him, I give him a two.
Starting point is 01:50:13 What about Gilbert and George? I think Gilbert's a seven. I'll take that. Oh, wow. Thank you so much. I think EJ's a seven. What? Oh, I'm scared what you're going to give me now.
Starting point is 01:50:22 I mean, you're going get like probably a four. No, George is actually like... So you put Alex in a two. That's two points above Alex. George... That's two points above Alex! But then you're gonna give me a three with my personality after having him like... Oh, with the personality?
Starting point is 01:50:37 Oh my God, you're doing things down there. Can you rate me pre-paralysis, pre-paralysis and post-paralysis? No, I think you're probably an 8.5, 9. Oh, oh my God. pre-paralysis, pre-paralysis, and post-paralysis. No, I think you're probably an 8.5, nine. Oh my God, pre-paralysis. So, what do I fall in? What? What do I fall in then?
Starting point is 01:50:54 Well, can we? Be honest. I'm doing pretty good for myself. I'm doing pretty good for myself. Three, you know what I mean? I mean, you do the math. I mean, what do you think you fall in? Six.
Starting point is 01:51:04 And then break down why you believe that? I'm a six. You're a ten. No no I'm a six I want to have a cigarette before they get here. Hi Kalida. Hi, when did you cut your hair? A couple like three weeks ago I think. Thank you by the way I've been watching all of the episodes. You crush it. I saw the one with Ben Schwartz. When you were a fangirling. So cute. Yeah, he was cool. I liked him. Do you think Bobby goes too hard on Jaime as an observer from the outside? Yeah. But also, if you love it, that's his, honestly, his ultimate love language is the harder he roasts you the more he loves you
Starting point is 01:51:46 Because he feels as though he can be his ugliest Yeah self with you which means he feels safe around you if he's like nice to you He probably doesn't like you very much if he has to like sit up straight or if he has to like behave in a Corporate way. He probably doesn't like you and he'll never be close to you So I it's like very gaslighty of me to say this but like I guess like take the abuse yeah I he goes okay you know I mean no but he does help me sometimes some jokes and stuff so off camera though is he like kind to you he's gonna you want to see my impression of him yeah yeah yeah okay I'm gonna go sit over there real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Oh my God. The whole, the whole prepper.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Excuse me, can you not use our merch as a tissue paper? My left- That's a premium product, man. My paralyzed left nostril is leaky. I already have it before it comes. Okay, go ahead, show me. Oh. Oh, wait, that is it.
Starting point is 01:52:38 That's part of it. Oh, it's starting. Great, great start. What's up? What's up, Gilbert, little fucking raccoon. You've never called me that, but okay, I just woke up Just woke up anyways Usually you wait for them to like Keep going you going see the going. See the thing is that, the thing is that.
Starting point is 01:53:07 The thing is is that. The thing is that that. You've mutated it to something else. Okay. Get out of my seat man. He had an impression of you. Oh really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Yeah. I'd like to hear it actually. What is it? I'd like to hear it actually. What is it? I'd like to hear your impression. I'll have to be over there. No, you have to do it from there.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Pretend you're playing a piano. Oh, you missed it. You missed it. You missed the beginning. I just woke up. Give me a second. Give me a second. I just woke up, give me a second, give me a second. I just woke up in the middle of the day and now I'm gonna get a burger to fill my stomach.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Gilbert, your hat is dumb. Hymen, you're a sneaky little Mexican Little Never said that word I've never said that word my life Jaime you little bean eater Kalina Cross I Yes, I said that. Carolina, cross-eyed. That's a good song. Don't ever call her cross-eyed again. But you call me Bean. You call me Bean.
Starting point is 01:54:39 You call me Bean. You call me Bean. You call me Bean. You call me Bean. You call me Bean. You call me Bean. I said Bobby this thing yesterday. What? You call me Bean. You call me Bean.
Starting point is 01:54:58 You call me Bean. Sorry, sorry, sorry. The most amount of noise and The most amount of noise and Yeah, uh Out of the way! Out of practice. Please forgive me, I'm out of practice. I don't even know how to do it.
Starting point is 01:55:14 We call me Bean We call me Bean But not her but not her, definitely not her But you're definitely a bean, a big fat sloppy bean I clean up after myself, thank God. Now. Now you do. Now you do. To say you're pussy. You It's pretty good. Where's everybody? We're here. Wait, I gotta go outside.
Starting point is 01:56:18 I gotta greet them. I gotta greet them. Okay. Okay. You wanna hear a funny story? Are you nervous? Yeah, I've never been no more nervous. But why are you nervous? Why? Just get on the mic and explain. They're not here yet.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Don't text me when they get here. Yeah. Well, because I haven't hung out with Debra really since Mad TV. She seems awesome. She is awesome, but I'm nervous about her because I think she's a very big star. Also, you have to understand that when I was on that show, when I was, these are the ones that were on already. Later in the show when I was on Mad, I felt more comfortable when Ike and all those guys came in, but it's like, this was more like I was just so scared
Starting point is 01:56:59 and starstruck and just shy and very anxious. So that's why, you know what I mean? I mean, we've already had Mo and Ariazn, but I don't know. and like just shy and very anxious. So that's why, you know what I mean? I mean, we've already had Mo and Ariazn. But I don't know- You still see him as like your superior? A little bit, yeah. A little bit. What's up, winners?
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