Timcast IRL - ABC Revives Jimmy Kimmel After Terror Attack On Station, Sinclair Refuses To Air Show w/ Augustus Doricko

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

Tim, Phil, Shane, & Tate are joined by Augustus Doricko to discuss ABC announcing they will resume production on the Jimmy Kimmel show, Sinclair canceling their Charlie Kirk tribute after receiving vi...olent threats, Trump designating Antifa as a terrorist organization, and Don Lemon melting down over Charlie Kirk's memorial.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Shane  @TalesfromtheInvertedWorld  (everywhere) Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Augustus Doricko @ADoricko (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Jimmy Kimmel is back. ABC is reviving his show as of tomorrow, and it seems that this may be due to terror threats and terror attacks. Now, not necessarily, we don't know for sure, but we're now learning that the man who shot up the ABC affiliate in California was targeting other prominent conservatives, and the DA says we believe there was a political motive to this attack. Sinclair last week was going to air a tribute to Charlie Kirk, but pulled it at the last minute because of terroristic threats. Now, ABC has announced they will bring the show back, but Sinclair says absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:00:54 They intend to still preempt the show if it comes back tomorrow. So this will be interesting. My wager is that Jimmy Kimmel's ratings are going to be massive. I mean, the liberals are all acting like he's their favorite commentators, despite the fact none of them watched his show. But now everyone wants to know what he's going to say because the reporting is he will not apologize. But he's coming back anyway, baby. So what could possibly make them decide to bring back his show?
Starting point is 00:01:21 I don't know. Maybe they negotiated his salary way down using this morality clause breach. or maybe the threats of terroristic violence against their stations made them think we probably should bring this show back. Considering what we've seen in the past, I think there's a strong possibility of that. Now, there actually is a bunch of other news. Trump has a formally designated Antifa a terrorist organization. I believe this likely means it's going to allow him to go after funding organizations that empower the individuals, not like there is a big central Antifa network. It is a decentralized network. We'll talk about that plus the reaction to the Charlie Kirk Memorial
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Starting point is 00:04:45 Dude, I would love to talk about it. I'm stoked to talk about it. I just look right at Shane, I'm like waiting for him to say that clouds don't exist in the first place. I've been telling them about weather manipulation for years. Everyone laughs in me. I'm like, well, the face of big cloud is right here. Tate, producer, is here. It's going on, guys. Tate Brown here. You know, me and Augustus, we had the frosty interaction one time.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I heard drones overhead, and I heard some water dropping. I had a little nervous, so I made it up, and now he's here. This was great, so happy to be here. Hello, everybody. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here we go from the New York Post.
Starting point is 00:05:17 York Post. This is a pretty complicated series of stories. First, we have this. Jimmy Kimmel set for return to ABC after backlash, but won't apologize for Charlie Kirk comments, according to sources. They say that he negotiated his return to the airways directly with CEO of Disney Bob Iger and Disney Entertainment co-chair Dana Walden. Kimmel will address the controversy during his modelogue on Tuesday, though he will stop short of apologizing. Now, hold on there a gosh darn minute. This was, we already knew that he got pulled for this reason. According to the Wall Street Journal and the Hollywood Reporter, he was going to come on his show last week, after the controversy, address the comments, refused to apologize, and criticize Maga for twisting
Starting point is 00:06:00 his words. Because of this, Bob Eiger and Dana Walden were concerned that advertisers and affiliates were already angry and concerned, they thought he was going to make it worse. He refused to not engage in this commentary. So they said, then we're pulling your show. That's the Wall Street Journal and the Hollywood Reporter reporting. Now it sounds like they've caved. We'll let Jimmy Kimmel do exactly the same thing. But that makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Now maybe. Let me throw some maybes out there. $15 million per year, very expensive show, very low key demo ratings. Maybe he said, slash my salary. They said, we're not going to bring you back. He goes, okay, how much are you going to lose from this? I'm like, we're already losing millions. I said, okay, slash my salary, bring the show back.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Maybe they said, okay, screw it, fine, I guess. I don't think so. I'll tell you why. We've got this story from NBC News. Jimmy Kimmel's suspension might have been a factor in the shooting at Sacramento ABC affiliate DA says NBC News. They could actually do the reporting they don't want to, but at least they give us this. Quote, we believe that there was a political motive behind his intention. And then from the National Review, suspect in ABC Station shooting, politically motivated, left a note warning.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Trump officials, they are next. Considering that, let's see, do we have the, where's the other story from, I thought we this one pulled up, I guess we don't. Post-Mellennial reported, I'll grab this one too. Because it's, there's a lot in this. Okay, here we go. Oh, wait, I'm sorry, this is a different, there's a lot to break this down. I'm trying to find the post-malennial story. Sinclair, here we go.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Here's the other component, if it loads. Sinclair canceled its tribute to Charlie Kirk after ABC Station. got terroristic threats. Local threats directed at specific local ABC stations resulting from the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel. So let's wrap it all up. Right now, Sinclair is saying they will not bring back Jimmy Kimmel. However, they did take down Charlie Kirk's memorial due to terroristic threats.
Starting point is 00:08:03 A shooter threatened to kill them, and presumably there are way more threats than this, and they're bringing Jimmy Kimmel back to do exactly what they told him not to do. I'm going to go ahead and say, we don't know any reason why ABC would bring him back. We don't have any official reporting as to what the reason is that he negotiated. I can only then infer the terror attack and threats of terrorism against ABC stations forced Disney to cave and return Jimmy Kimmel to the airwaves. But that is just my personal opinion, pending any other information. I hate that there's stric and affecting him now.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And he's going to play the victim. And it's gross. Because I, in my opinion, I mean, no one's watching him in the first place. And his irrelevance is our vengeance. And I think we can just move on from these corporations that pump out slop and hate and just watch them the corporations die. That's why we have YouTube. That's why we're doing shows like this. People are tuning into this more than they're tuning into Kimmel.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I mean, yeah, not that I strongly disagree with you, but I mean, you're just going from one corporation to another. And Google's one of the biggest corporations on Earth. Got a lot of issues, you know, they all do. But he can go start a YouTube page, you know. The fact that he gets to play victim now is not what anyone wants. No one wants to see him crying anymore. He's done that enough. Well, like as far as the return episode getting a pop, like a lot of people are speculating this,
Starting point is 00:09:24 but even with Colbert, it was like two nights where everyone rallied and it was like this big deal or whatever, what's he been up to lately? Like, when's the last time you saw a Colbert clip? I think the same thing's going to happen in Kimmel because I think Libs are just so demoralized that they'll maybe muster up enough strength to back Kimmel for like a night or two. And then he'll just be obscure again. obscurity it's not like this isn't going to give him better ratings like you said you might get a pop but he'll get a night it's still going to be the same content that people have been moving away from or the same show that people have been moving away from for the past at least five years he comes back in blackface i'll respect it maybe i tune and shoot that'd be awesome he won't i don't i don't the left would say to that i will just um i think i don't think it really matters i think his his return show tomorrow is going to have a massive viewership uh it's it's it's going to be the biggest show he's done probably ever. Maybe not. I mean, with television
Starting point is 00:10:14 dying, maybe he was getting a lot more ratings, and with an aging demographic, his ratings dropped 43% from July and August. Here's what I think. I was on Pierce Morgan earlier, and the most annoying thing in the world is how literally everybody, even conservatives are like, well, the FCC's comments, and the FCC is, I'm like, the FCC has little to do with why he was taken off the year. I think Brennan Carr's statements did play a role, probably minimal, because advertisers, according to the Wall Street Journal, were calling ABC upset. And you've got to imagine with the Bud Light effect and Target getting hit by it. They were like, we don't want to be associated with whatever it is this guy is doing.
Starting point is 00:10:52 He's got to apologize or something. And Jimmy Kimmel said, no, I won't do that. They said, you're going to make it worse. He said, so what? They said your show's off the air. Now he's coming back a week later and he's going to do exactly that. He's going to make it a lot worse. You know what happened?
Starting point is 00:11:04 I think it is fairly obvious. Now, when I was on Pierce Morgan, I said, why are you all making assumptions the FCC was responsible for this? You're literally saying Trump pressured them and Trump was mad. We have no evidence at all that Trump was in any way affiliated or associated with the cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel. None. Brendan Carr made a statement to Benny Johnson was probably off the cuff. Maybe it got ABC a little scared, but the advertising affiliates were the main reason. And so I'm saying to these people, you are speculating as to the reason. Now we're asking ourselves, what did Jimmy Kimmel do to get brought back on the air?
Starting point is 00:11:37 and we have no information. The reporting suggests he just negotiated his way back on. In that case, I'm willing to speculate. This is terrorism. A guy shot up an ABC affiliate. A bunch of local ABC stations were getting terror threats, threats of violence. Sinclair pulled their memorial to Charlie Kirk. I think the only thing we're seeing is that when faced with a threat of, let's be very clear here,
Starting point is 00:12:03 when faced with a threat of boycott, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's, you know, okay, that's a bad thing. Bud Light lost a lot of money. Disney's probably saying we don't want to boycott. But now they're receiving terroristic threats a week after Charlie Kirk had a bullet, an assassin put a bullet in his neck. And imagine you're Bob Eiger. And you see someone drive by and shoot up an ABC affiliate.
Starting point is 00:12:23 You see Sinclair being like our affiliates are getting death threats and terror threats. And then Jimmy Kimmel says, want to put my show back now? And you go, please, just stop. Okay, I'll do whatever you want. A threat of a boycott means nothing. The threat of death means everything. So Republicans sitting or saying, we're going to pat ourselves on the back and we're going to wag our fingers. That's not the motivating issue here.
Starting point is 00:12:44 They said, you know what? You guys getting mad at us over this only goes so far. Bob Eiger is probably sitting there calling his security guards. Because I'll tell you what, because I deal with this, I guarantee you, Bob Eiger had a consultation with the security guys. And they said the threat assessment against your life just went up 100 fold. And he was like, why? And they're like, they killed Charlie Kirk a week ago. they're shooting up ABC stations
Starting point is 00:13:07 and threaten to shoot up more. Okay, you need to cave. And he says, I'll do anything they say and drop to his knees like a whiny, scared little bitch. Just like in 2020. Indeed. It's the same thing. They bent a knee constantly.
Starting point is 00:13:18 When the left says they will murder you, everyone believes them. I do, they do. I don't see any legitimate reason why ABC would return a loose... Let's be very clear here. Roseanne was their highest rated show. This is what everybody's been saying.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Roseanne was their highest rated show, and get this, they pulled her off the air because she tweeted a joke. That's how terrified they were of the left. They will sacrifice all of their profit on her show, which is massive. The Conner's ratings collapsed, and we had Roseanne in the show, and she said, they asked her to come back later as a ghost, and she refused to do it. That's how bad it was. They were desperate. In this instance, Jimmy Kimmel is losing millions, tens of millions, most likely, and they're willing to lose that money, and I'm going to ask why. They don't have the audience for it.
Starting point is 00:14:06 129,000 in the key demo, 1 million in total viewers. My estimate, based on those numbers and sales, is what, is he pulling in 20K an episode? That's me being generous. And he's getting paid $15 million a year. What would motivate a company to lose money on a failing show, especially after even Colbert already has contract canceled? I'm going to tell you, I think Bob Iger and Dana Walden are scared of getting a bullet in the act just like Charlie Kirk got.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Well, I mean, it's a legitimate concern. Right, like whether it be actual assassination attempts or just the rioting that you saw in 2020 or, you know, the smaller scale riots that you've seen since, the protests and stuff, everyone knows. As much as the left swears up and down that they're not violent, as much as the left swears up and down, no, the right is violent. The right are the ones that carry out all this. Everyone still knows that it's the left and Democrats and Democrat politicians will not condemn it. Right? Like they will actually say things like you need to be out in the streets. You need to be out, you know, protesting this, knowing what's going to happen. So, I mean, I don't know exactly what the, you know, I don't have any kind of inclination as to to what the actual behind the scenes conversations were like. But it's definitely true that there is a legitimate risk that some crazy leftist will try to kill you. I mean, you had the, the attack on the, you know, the, what is it, the Sacramento? California, ABC station. So, I mean, it's compelling.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, I mean, but I kind of want to reframe this a little bit because there is something to be said about the fact that, you know, post-bud light, the conservators are actually able to throw their weight around and they're actually able to impose their will on the culture like this because the fact that the left is having to resort to, I mean, violence in this case, to get what, Jimmy Camel back on the air. I mean, that shows that conservatives are, they're actually having to respond to conservatives. They're not resorting to it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 they've been doing it for, this is why Trump is designated anti-terrorist organization. No, I know, but I'm just saying the fact that we're able to put them in a position where the only way they can keep Jimmy Kimmel on air is by shooting up ABC stations. I mean, that does show how we are winning and that shows that they're completely demoralized. Well, so be that as it may, I also suspect that whereas with like Roseanne as an example, when she got pulled, I think that the advertiser boycott was probably like a legitimate threat where like when Elon was bringing free speech. back to X and, like, the advertiser boycott happened, like, that was real. That did happen.
Starting point is 00:16:36 X's revenue got crushed. I don't know if, like, the big corporations that are doing advertising on mainstream media actually are so committed to a change of heart or to disavowing political violence that their threats were even real. I think maybe they were caught up in the moment after that assassination, but it was a bluff, right? And the advertisers and the affiliates? And so it might have been easier for Sinclair. Well, it's not Sinclair saying they're still not going to air Jimmy Kimmel. So they're not bluffing. They might be. Maybe tomorrow they put them back on the air. But taking Kirk's memorial down still, right? Indeed. Yeah. That's why I would make the argument. It's about the terror threats. The Bud Light effect is scary. Bud Light has never recovered.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I was wrong about that. I thought the number is going to come back around. Bud Light's never recovered. This is actually pretty crazy. I think, you know, who is the comedian, I was on with peers, Jeff Dye, I think his name was. They, you know, they added these guests at the last minute, but no disrespect. He made a great point that imagine after George Floyd died, if someone came out and a comedian, like Jimmy Kimmel came out and said, ah, George Floyd died because he was resisting arrest. This is what you get. People who have lost their minds.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I mean, they were riding and burning down cities. Well, here's the deal. When Jimmy Kimmel implied that the shooter was a Trump supporter and the Wright got mad, there was fear among advertisers and affiliates that this is going to cause a backlash. And then ABC said, okay, Jimmy, don't. No, wait, Jimmy, you're going to make it worse off the air. Then a guy drove up and unloaded on an ABC station. A bunch of local affiliates got terror threats. And then within a few days, Bob Eiger's like, Jimmy, please come back. I don't see. there is a fear of the bud light effect but i got to tell you if these guys like this like disney
Starting point is 00:18:36 they're there i i assure you man these guys have security threats you don't even realize we don't talk about it because you can't the security stuff that happens here Shane knows all about it we can't publicly state it because it will expose it will amplify the danger it will inflame the stalkers it will make things substantially more dangerous for us based on what we deal with, and I got to tell you this, there are people behind the scenes here that are also getting death threats. I mentioned this, you know, last week that I was getting texts from crew being like, I am receiving death threats to my email right now. Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, I bet you someone sent him a photo of his kids or like his grandkids or something
Starting point is 00:19:18 and a picture of his home. Because the threat of the threat of Bud Light Effect is terrifying to a business. But you know, it's scarier. When someone shoots up an ABC station and And then someone else threatens to murder you, and you know their claims are, their threats are real. When this guy shot at the ABC station got released by the local jail, the FBI swooped in and arrested him. And so I'll tell you this, you're the CEO of Disney, you have a private security company because you are the CEO of Disney. You are getting death threats. I don't think there's a reality where they're not. And your security assessment, your security liaison, he comes to you and he says, okay, the threats against you have increased 10,000 fold, literally overnight because of the firing of
Starting point is 00:19:58 Jimmy Kimmel. They're actively shooting into these stations, and they just released him. He's in California. He's probably like, okay, whatever they want. Just make it stop. Listen, no amount of money in the world is worth fearing that someone's going to put a bullet in your neck when you least expect it. You won't be able to spend that money. I mean, I got to be honest because I'm pissed off. The security, I really wanted to go on Sunday to see Charlie Kirk's Memorial. And a lot of people did. And a lot of people without fear. And I'm jealous. because my security team came and they were like, it's going to cost a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And I said, we can't afford that. And I said, well, then we can't provide you security. I said, okay, what's the point of the money? If I have to fear landing on an airplane and getting shot by some lunatic because the threats have weight to them, the threats that we're receiving. The stalkers, the threats, it's nuts,
Starting point is 00:20:46 particularly in those areas. So this has me really pissed off. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, the terrorist threat, the threats are real. And that's why it's good that, you know, Donald Trump is taking these kind of threats seriously and going after Antifa and stuff because largely people that would make the threats if they're not, you know, if they're not a part of an organization like Rose City, Antifa, they're absolutely loosely affiliated with these people. Let's read the next story from National Review, specifically suspect and ABC Station shooting left a note warning Trump officials they are next. Prosecutors believe the suspect who allegedly opened fire on the ABC 10 station in Sacramento on Friday was politically motivated,
Starting point is 00:21:31 explaining that a search of the suspect's vehicle yielded a note that criticized members of the Trump administration and appeared to reference the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk. The Sacramento Police Department executed a search of 64-year-old Annabelle Hernandez-Sentana's home, where they not only found the semi-automatic 9-millimeter handgun, he allegedly used to fire into the station multiple times, but also various pieces of evidence that suggested that he was motivated. They kill the story right there. But NBC News reports similarly. People have also dug up what they say are tweets of his where he makes a bunch of inflammatory comments. So we've already talked in great deal about how this, in my opinion, motivated Disney to bring Jimmy Kimmel back. My question is, Trump has designated anti-foot terrorism. We're going to get into all that.
Starting point is 00:22:17 But we are now dealing with, I mean, this is a week and a half after a political assassination, they're threatening. to do it again. And Disney is giving in. Where do we go from here? And it's a year after the two attempts on the life of the president. Right. Do you think Bob Iger's so insane that despite the news of this being a leftist, he still thinks it's right-wing violence coming for him?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Or do you think they actually understand the reality of leftists? They know. They know for a fact. But you don't spend millions of the... I will tell you this. Bob Iger probably spends $5.10 million a year on security. He's the CEO of Disney. And his security guards aren't coming to him to and line. They're not going to go to him and be like, yeah, it's grippers. Now, he's paying for
Starting point is 00:22:59 real legit guys. And they're saying, the threat is the left. I hope so. Because these people are insane, too, and like despite showing some of these people facts, I know you're saying the security team, but there's people I know in the real world, not like Iger, obviously, who despite me showing them the facts, they still will believe the opposite. Oh, yeah. It's possible, but I... Good. No, no, no. I mean, it's possible, but I don't see why, like, he's got, like, like Tim said, he's got very high level security. These guys are the top top of the line when it comes to personal security and stuff. And I don't see why he would be like, no, man, I'm sure that it's the other guys.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And to be honest with you, from his perspective, it doesn't matter. Right. You know, it's like it's, it's, I have a security concern. It doesn't matter who's going to be doing the issues, you know, who the person might be or what their politics might be. It's just the security's concern. He's 74 years old. So what kind of politics are you? you think you might have?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Like Joy Behar. It might be, indeed. If he's in his 70s, maybe he remembers what the late 60s and early 70s were like with all the left wing bombing and all the attacks and stuff. Because, you know, you see the comments about how the right is the perpetrators of most political violence. And they always started at like 1975. They never go back to 65.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Iger left the Democratic Party in 2016. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, he dropped his party affiliation to independent. However, as it means a lot, but I have to imagine that, you know, they say online he's described himself as a centrist. I think it's fairly obvious. Yeah, I'd like to think so.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I think we should expect to see more terror because the left is basically saying right now, terror works. The fact that Jimmy Kimmel is coming back on the air, they've asserted the threat of death. It works. And you know, what's crazy is the thought leaders, the movers and the shakers of the Democratic Party and the left don't need to get their own hands dirty because they've got a bunch of stochastic terrorists, or I should say they are the stochastic terrorists invoking the terrorism. They are the people going on TV and saying, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest? And then people go and do it. I mean, look, just like Aaron was saying today on your interview with him, you need the federal government to do its job, right? Like, we don't have a system where people can take these issues into their own hand. And even if you hired private investigators or private security, you still need law enforcement to actually do the grabbing of the bad guys, right, like for it to be illegal.
Starting point is 00:25:35 You could have private investigators, private security. They might be able to hold someone if they catch them. It's going to be law enforcement that's going to pick them up. And it's going to take a justice department that actually does want to lower the amount of violent crime that's happening. And I don't know that we have that yet. We have a lot of judges that will let people go. We have a lot of a lot of DAs that don't want to prosecute. And that's one of the biggest problems America faces for not just the next couple years, but probably for the next couple decades, is how do we get these D.A.
Starting point is 00:26:10 and these judges to actually put people in jail when they align with the with the judge politically. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean, the sad thing is in this case, when you have, you know, these organizations like MSNBC just radicalizing grandfathers across the country, I mean, no matter what laws you have on the books and even if you're enforcing them, like, you can't stop some MSNBC American from crashing out and shooting up an ABC student. I mean, it's just the environment we're in is like we need a top-down cultural change as well. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:39 because this is just completely unacceptable. You have these atomized boomers that, I mean, they feel like Jimmy Camel is this victim of a fascist government crackdown and they need to do something about it. And they made it up. Yeah. Like, what laws could you pass to prevent that from happening? I mentioned this earlier that I went on Pierce Morgan today. And every single person was like, the FCC did this to Jimmy. And I was like, that's nowhere in the reporting.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Nowhere, literally not reported anywhere. The FCC actually had in any way contact. And, you know, Cat Tiff's argument was, so are you saying? It's a coincidence. And I'm like, honest question for you guys, do you think that Bob Iger was watching the Benny Johnson podcast? I don't know anymore. Anything's possible. I'd say probably not.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Yeah. I do think that his statements, which made it to the news, probably trickled its way into the conversation. But that wasn't in the ear of Dana Walden or Bob Iger. What was in their ear was that advertisers called them and were upset and so were affiliates. I don't. And so, you know, with all due respect to Benny, I do think the FCC thing was big and it played a role, but they have to say this because the story has to be about Trump. It can't just be that Disney was like, we don't want to lose money, so you're fired. What are the odds you think? This is going to sound like a crazy statement that I'm going to say it anyway, that Kimmel comes out and tries to do something unifying. He can't because he's horrible. The reporting is he won't apologize. Even if that, I mean, I know he won't apologize, but I feel like there's a small percentage that he's going to try. I won't work.
Starting point is 00:28:08 what he's going to say is he's going to so what's the guy's name is the guy was on the peers what John Fugel saying or something I'm not trying to mispronance his name my purpose. He was saying that Jimmy Kimmel was 100% factually correct
Starting point is 00:28:21 that Maga was trying to paint this man as anything but a MAGA guy. What he's saying is that no no, we know he wasn't MAGA and those Trump supporters real, we're trying real hard to make sure everybody else did too. But that's not the
Starting point is 00:28:38 implication being made by Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel, the way he said it was, they tried, I'm paraphrasing, but really hard to make people believe he wasn't anything but one of their own. The implication, of course, being he was. Jimmy Kimmel is going to come out and say, the point that I made on my show was that we know this guy wasn't a mega guy, and boy, where Trump's supporters trying real hard to make sure everybody heard that, he's not going to apologize, but he is going to say, I had already issued a statement saying that the shooting was horrible. So this was in no way intended to offend anybody, and it was taken out of proportion. Then I think he's going to criticize Trump supporters for intentionally twisting his words for
Starting point is 00:29:13 political reasons. He's going to say Trump's base did this. They knew what I meant and they did this to try and get my show canceled. He's then going to attack the FCC and say they intentionally targeted the networks. I believe that's what it'll say something to that effect. So it will be somewhat of, of course, the shooting is bad. But the reason why I think that maybe I'm wrong is because that's what every liberal, mainstream liberal is trying to do right now. Of course, Charlie Kirk shouldn't die, but he was evil, right? So why wouldn't he do anything different? Yeah, I mean, Camel saw Colbert, how he got the, you know, king treatment. Oh, you're this martyr. You're, you know, you're stomped all over by this authoritarian government. Of course Camel wants that. He's not going to
Starting point is 00:29:52 fumble that. That's a once in a week opportunity because this is going to last two days and we won't hear about it. But yeah, he's not going to, he's not going to let that slip through his fingers. He has the chance to be the martyr. And we shouldn't be surprised also. He's a ghoul who was mocking the unvaccinated just a few years ago. I mean, this guy is. a nightmare. Well, you know, I'm not going to speak for anybody else, but he did work for a network
Starting point is 00:30:15 where his friend was the announcer, and the network fired his friend for not getting the vaccine. The funny thing about, shout to Dickie Barrett, Bonnie Muddy Bostones, and the Defiant, that's who he's with, the Defiant. He worked remote. He didn't go in the studio, and they said, get vaccinated. He's like, but I work from home, and they're like, we don't care. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. Yeah. And then Jimmy Kimmel wanted his show and said, here's an idea. If you're dying and you go to the hospital, vaccinated right this way, not vaccinated, sorry, wheezy, there's the door. Wow. Basically saying, you should just die. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And that was, you know, the, the callousness with the way that he treated people that, you know, you didn't want to get vaccinated. I don't, I don't see how, I don't see why anyone should consider him a good faith actor at all. And, you know, so the fact that he's coming back, I think, is a big L.
Starting point is 00:31:11 You know, Disney's in trouble. They, uh, all the past several Marvel movies have flopped miserably. They've really burned that, that franchisee. Star Wars, wow. I mean, look, I can pull up Disney Plus and I can, I can see everything wrong. They're just lighting all their IP on fire. It's terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 There's actually, um, uh, this is a pretty big story that, you know, we don't really cover. this stuff. Do you guys know that Disney actually just deleted, erased, a bunch of shows and movies permanently, forever, you can never see them again. Really? Which ones? I can look up a list. Like, what was the motivation to delete all? Save space. And because they were owned by Disney, they are not carried anywhere else. That's what they did with the Moon Files. That's right. Is NASA running Disney? Dude, if Trump and RFK can truly, you know, find the cure for autism, The Star Wars franchise is in serious trouble. It's beyond...
Starting point is 00:32:10 It's beyond... It's epic news, yeah. You're not getting Tylenol ads anymore. No. Say that much. I mean, Star Wars has been dead for a long time. Yeah. I haven't watched anything Star Wars in a long time.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And I was... When I was a kid, I was very... They don't make... Yeah, they don't even make toys for kids anymore. It's for, like, millennials. Yeah. Toy lineals, actually. It's the correct term.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So they, apparently they've done... They do this... Have they done it before or not? I can't tell. All I know is, uh... okay so they may periodically do this this is actually kind of crazy yeah yeah yeah they're Disney plus exclusive shows it's kind of the weirdest thing because we've never actually had something like this
Starting point is 00:32:49 happened one example is Willow the the series based on the movie with who's the actor famous guy series based on Willow the movie Willow like the I'm just going to say Peter Dinkley Warwick Davis Oh I know Warwick okay yeah yeah yeah Legendary actor. He's in everything. He was in the Willow movie. They did a show about it. So the crazy thing is, I'm sure there are, here's the thing. There are shows that are short-lived. You can find them.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You can look up old tape archives of like a show that got seven episodes and then just got pulled or whatever. You go, wow, didn't even know about that. It's crazy that we're in an era now where Disney's like, no one can stream this but us. And then they're like, let's delete it. And now it's gone literally for. It's like a Mandela effect. Right. Actually happening. It's like the Shaq movie that didn't happen. Okay, I'm going to say this real quick before we go to the next segment.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But we now have proof that we're in a simulation. Okay. The seahorse emoji. The seahorse emoji? There isn't one. What? Have you ever seen a seahorse emoji? There's a Bill Gates pregnant one.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Sure, but have you ever seen the seahorse emoji? I haven't. Ask any AI. Ask any AI and see what happens. This is how they mess with us. print a seahorse emoji? No, it's going to say, it's going to give you, they're all going to give you the exact time and date of when the seahorse emoji was added to the Unicode base, and then fail to produce it, and then start having a heart attack and going schizo, saying,
Starting point is 00:34:17 I don't understand why it won't appear. I know it exists. And when all of the AI programs say it does exist, it was made, but then you go online and it's not there. CERN has been on. I asked Grock, and it just said, they showed me the dolphin emoji. So they asked Chad GPD. He just lied. Chad Shoechee gave me unicorn and horse. But what did it say? I told it print seahorse emoji.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And then it said, are you looking for conch shell or seal? Here is the actual seahorse emoji. And then it's fish unicorn. And then correction. Oh, and then it goes correction. It's actually coral unicorn. And then it goes, the actual seahorse emoji is fish unicorn. Oh, it did spaz out.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It spas out. And then ask it when it was added. And all of the AIs will give you a. comparable answer. In June of 2014, Unicode Base updated with the seahorse emoji, but Google it, and they'll all tell you it never existed and you're crazy. Has anyone checked if seahorses are still out there in the world? What? What? Right now. Maybe they've disappeared as well. What is out in the world? Seahorse. Like a horse thing. Oh, I see what you're doing, Tim. I don't like it. All right, all right. Anyway, back to news, back to news. Here we go from
Starting point is 00:35:27 the post millennial. Actually, let's talk about that later. Sinclair canceled airing tribute to Charlie Kirk after ABC stations got violent threats. Postmanal reporting, Sinclair broadcast group scrapped its plans to air a tribute to Charlie Kirk after multiple violent threats were directed at local ABC affiliate stations, according to a report from the New York Post. Last week, Sinclair was set to air the special on its affiliate stations, but abruptly announced it was polled and would be available on a YouTube link. The TV giant, which owns over 40 local ABC affiliate stations, was facing local threats directed at specific local ABC stations, resulting from the ABC suspension.
Starting point is 00:36:02 At the time of the polling on our special, Sinclair posted tonight, we will air, Sinclair will continue to air ABC network programming as scheduled in the late-night time period. The Charlie Kirk special will instead be available on the National News Desk's YouTube channel, ensuring viewers can continue to enjoy the ABC programming. Now, in response to the statement from ABC that Jimmy Kimball is coming back, they said this at 716. Beginning Tuesday night, Sinclair will be pre-empting Jimmy Kimmel Live. across our ABC affiliate stations and replacing it with news programming.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Discussions with ABC are ongoing as we evaluate the show's potential return. I think it's fairly obvious the motivation behind all of these things. Listen, Sinclair said they were polling Jimmy Kimmel and they were going to air a tribute to Charlie Kirk. The political alignment there is obvious. Leftists then threatened to murder them. And so they said, back the F up. Guys, I got to say. the idea that we are not you ready for it heading for Shane drink real quick do you want to say
Starting point is 00:37:10 the words civil war oh Shane said it not me so nobody gets a drink when we are at a time when a a network says a man was just murdered it's one of the most substantive meteoric political moments of our lifetimes he was he was killed in cold blood in front of his wife and children at a political rally for trying to speak And you can't air a tribute because the left is threatening to murder you. I think it's time for a cold wake-up call for regular people. We are two, we're not even two weeks from the murder of Charlie Kirk, again, in front of his family. And the left has already, I should say, left-aligned individuals have already shot up an ABC station and threatened death and terror against others.
Starting point is 00:38:01 so it is it is fairly obvious they are proud of what they do they are celebrating what they do and they are continuing to do it the only response that makes sense of course is federal law enforcement Donald trump's FBI arrested the guy who shut up the ABC Sacramento station he needs to use the full force of federal law enforcement to go after every single one of these leftists and liberals who are sending death threats and they must go to prison yeah The left will respond by saying this proves Trump's a fascist, and they will escalate their already terror campaigns. I don't see an off-ramp being possible, and I will stress it again, because I wish this were not the case. I would very much rather put on the WPT poker tournaments, watch some pros, dish out some chips while I order Papa John stuffed crust pizza.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Shout out, Do Tolly, man. I love those videos where he's like, I'm going to put chicken nuggets in the crust of my pizza. That is paradise. But we can't have that because a man who was left-aligned, murdered Charlie Kirk, liberals, and I don't mean leftists, liberals celebrated this, lied about the shooter, defended it. When we got mad and said, that is not okay, Disney said, we're going to take this guy off the air because he's refusing to apologize. Sinclair said, we'll put up a tribute for Charlie Kirk, a man who was murdered, who did nothing wrong. And within a day, the death threats and terror threats against Sinclair were so.
Starting point is 00:39:29 great, they pulled the memorial. I, I, the left is not going to stop. I feel like I've been thinking a lot about what we were talking about last week. You described a series of events that would look like a civil war, pockets of violence throughout the country, and I just can't get out of my head that we are in that already. That's what I'm, like, 2020 was that. The, the, the Nashua shooting, the guy yelled, the children are safe, free Palestine, and then shot and killed somebody and shot a bunch of other people.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah. A guy drove up to an ABC affiliate unloaded on it, not even a week after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And so what people need to understand is there's a civil strife period. And boy, we've been in that for a long time. Look at the George Floyd riots. That is civil strife. It doesn't always lead to civil war. I'm not saying we're in a civil war now. But what you will see, man, because I've been in countries under revolution. I've not been in actual war, but I was in Ukraine at the start of their civil war, which, you know, Russia and Venice is a whole other thing. I was in Egypt during the second revolution. And I'm sitting in the hotel.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I go to the lobby and there's people eating that beef bacon because you can't eat pork in Egypt. So they're eating normal food. Literally, it's terrifying. I'm in the lobby and there's a guy typing on his computer while there are reports that the Egyptian military is arresting journalists outside the window. And these are big 20 foot tall or 15 tall windows. People are shooting each other. They're using shotguns. So we don't, if it was bullets like 9 mil, we'd be on the ground.
Starting point is 00:40:57 But they have these makeshift breach loading. shotguns, handguns, that they put a shell in and then go, and we're sitting there. And I look at this guy, I'm like, aren't you worried about it? He's like, no, they're not going to shoot at us. And then I was like, but the Egyptian military is now arresting journalists. He's like, pro-Muslim ones. In Egypt, outside of the hotel, while people are doing this, there's a McDonald's where a guy was watching soccer.
Starting point is 00:41:21 We drove to Helioplas, went to the mall, I had kebab, bought a cell phone to use for data transmission, and people carry on their lives if nothing happens. and they're standing in the mall watching the news reports about the shootings, the violence, and the insanity. Because life goes on. There's videos out of Syria where during the Civil War people are walking down the street with grocery bags and the buildings are all rubble. So it is terrifying that we are now in a country where, you know, I wake up, I grab breakfast, I come into work, turn the news on and it's shooting. Bomb threats. Bomb threat at RFK Jr.'s house. Police were dispatched of our bomb threat.
Starting point is 00:41:56 ABC affiliates shot up. TV stations and panic And that's what I'm saying Like 2020 people are home There's nurses twerking with body bags On TikTok There's mayors handing out free cheeseburgers for vaccines You know there's chas and chop
Starting point is 00:42:11 Children being shot innocent people being shot David Dorn shot in the head fires everywhere It feels like that was the beginning of a sustained political violence It maybe was easy for some people to forget When we went back to normal But it never really went back to normal
Starting point is 00:42:25 Because it feels like reality is just hanging on by a threat Well, and even outside of that, I mean, the United States, like, the threshold Americans have for violence is actually quite high. I mean, for the longest time, we've dealt with. I mean, you see headline after headline out of Chicago, you know, dozens killed over the weekend. And everyone's like, yeah, well, that's Chicago. Like, our threshold for violence. I mean, you go to Netflix, the top shows are like murder mysteries and, you know, the behind the scenes of terrorist attacks. We just live in a very violent society, and everyone's just kind of used to it.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So it's, like, only natural that the political theater would go kinetic because everything else in American life's gone to Connecticut. You know, the weird thing about that, you're right. there is a lot of violence in the United States, but it's in such pockets that, like, most people don't actually experience it. You know, it's like most of your people that, those people that are in the burbs, or even people that live in, you know, if you don't live around a certain neighborhood in a handful of cities, you're not going to, you're likely to not ever experience the kind of violence that you see in, in urban areas in the U.S. For the most part, it doesn't even touch people, but you're right, it does desensitize Americans. So that way it's like you hear this
Starting point is 00:43:25 stuff, you hear the stuff, and it becomes, well, that's just the way that it is. Well, yeah, people are desensitized because if you live in a, you know, like Memphis and you're in a suburb, you know the entire city is off limits. And it's like, well, why is that? Well, because it's exceptionally violent. And we're just used to that. We just accept that. Even though we're in the wealthiest, most powerful country in human history, and violence, I mean, mass violence is just sort of like, it's not accepted. It's just, yeah, it's just part of life. It's part of American life. But then do you, something about the murder of arena, I don't know how to pronounce for last name. Zeritska.
Starting point is 00:43:55 and Charlie Kirk, like, that, I was talking earlier about this, that feels like it was the first mass trauma event for Gen Z. Like, nobody remembers the Twin Towers falling. But that, like, sure, fine. We played Call of Duty when we were growing up and maybe we don't, like, understand violence because of that. That feels like the first time I've ever been sensitized to, not desensitized, but sensitized to the reality of political violence in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Like, I think that there's more people now, or at least Zoomers, that feel as though there is like imminent threat of violence all of the time and a lot of people in tech say something to the effect of like well it's actually just like chinese bots or russian bots sewing division i don't think that there is as large a majority of like common sense reasonable people in the middle that don't believe in violence i think it's way more people on both sides or at least on the left for sure that like are very willing to commit violence and people on the right now that are very aware of the threat of political violence. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Well, that's kind of been, the left has always been more comfortable with violence and they look at, it's my opinion, they look at violence like a dial and the right looks at it like a switch.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah, they look at it like a switch. So the right doesn't want to be violent. They don't think that violence is useful. They think that violence only means more violence and so they do everything they can to avoid being violent. Whereas the left has no problem going out and writing and you see it you saw it in 2016 when donald trump was elected everyone you know there was a bunch of riots all over the plays they ripped up dc you saw it obviously in 2020
Starting point is 00:45:33 when with the summer of love and whatever and what have you and you see it regularly everyone knows that had a right leaning person killed a prominent person on the left there would have been riots there would have been absolute chaos in a lot of places in the u.s and this isn't this is this is completely obvious to everybody we are now facing the greatest test of our civilization that is the united states this is donald trump designating antifa as a domestic terrorist organization is putting this country to the test and that is with this executive order YouTube, X, Facebook, they're going to have to ban all of these people posting these images. It is now a violation of the law.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Depending on what happens with this executive order, there's a question that will be asked. As the Krasenstein's post that they are Antifa, as many prominent liberals post the flag and say they are Antifa. If social media companies say that is fine, that means a large portion of our domestic infrastructure, tech infrastructure, economy is telling the federal government they are illegitimate. Now lawsuits with a stay, that would be interesting. But there's a very real question now. Declaration of a terrorist organization, you cannot go on YouTube and post ISIS stuff. They'll ban you. and there's arguments that you could be charged for providing support to a terrorist organization.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Here's what the White House executive order says. Section 1. Antifa is a terrorist threat. Antifa is a militarist anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States government, law enforcement authorities, and our system of law. It uses illegal means to organize and execute a campaign of violence and terrorism nationwide to accomplish these goals. This campaign involves coordinated efforts to obstruct enforcement of federal laws through armed standoffs with law enforcement, organized rights, violent assaults. and immigration and customs enforcement and other law enforcement officers and routine doxing of and other threats against political figures and activists. Antifa recruits trains and radicalizing young Americans to engage in this violence and suppression of political activity. That employs elaborate means and mechanisms to shield the identities of its operatives,
Starting point is 00:48:00 conceals funding sources and operations in an effort to frustrate law enforcement and recruit additional members. Individuals associated with and acting on behalf of Antifa further coordinate with other organizations and entities for the purpose of spreading, fomenting, and advancing political violence and suppressing lawful political speech. This organized effort designed to achieve political objectives by coercion and intimidation is domestic terrorism. Because of the aforementioned pattern of political violence designed to suppress lawful political activity and obstruct the rule of law, I hereby designate Antifa as a domestic
Starting point is 00:48:31 terrorist organization. All relevant executive departments and agencies shall utilize all applicable authorities to investigate, disrupt and dismantle any and all illegal operations, especially those involving terrorist actions conducted by Antifa or any person claiming to act on behalf of Antifa or for which Antifa or any person claiming to act on behalf of Antifa provide material support,
Starting point is 00:48:51 including necessary investigatory and prosecutory actions against those who fund such operations. I say general provisions, this order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law. This order is not intended to and does not create any right or benefit substantive or procedural enforceable at law or an equity by any party against the United States,
Starting point is 00:49:08 its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents or any other person. This order shall be published in the Federal Register, Donald J. Trump. Now, the reality of this is, it actually does very little formally. Trump may now say that they're going to target people flying the Antifa symbol, citing that is probable cause that they may be associated with other organizations that are funding violent riots and things like this. So, RICO is what they're probably looking at for some of these NGOs that are providing
Starting point is 00:49:36 various types of support for these acts of terror. Socially, Trump has said, these are terrorists. Your move, YouTube. Will YouTube start taking down people who claim that they are? Will Elon Musk? I think that the administration is going to actually have to apply a little bit of pressure. They're going to have to, you know, let these organizations know that this is not just, you know, for posturing.
Starting point is 00:50:05 This is serious. They're going to be looking to involve the DOJ. But I imagine that just a little bit of pressure from the feds, from the DOJ, and, you know, your ex, your Facebook, they'll fall in line pretty quickly because they were kissing Trump's ring as soon as Trump was, you know, likely to become elected. Yeah, I mean, like the problem here is obviously you can't, there's no legal mechanism for a domestic terrorist organization. You have foreign, obviously, but there's nothing for domestic. But what this can do is sort of reorient the IC towards Antifa. You're basically putting Antifa on the radar of like the FBI. So now the FBI can conduct surveillance and clandestine operations to collect information.
Starting point is 00:50:47 You can, you know, now you can redirect everyone for civil suits. Rico obviously puts Rico on the table. So, I mean, yeah, like Tim's saying, I mean, unfortunately there's not really a mechanism he's activating here. But this is more of a warning shot saying, hey, everyone, let's concentrate fire here on Antifa. But this came out today. Like, let's say that they're going to try to figure out, okay, it's either YouTube and X's move to implement something proactively or somebody in the federal government, Stephen Miller or otherwise, has to figure out how to implement this with existing laws. Like, the window of opportunity for doing something with a political mandate is almost over already, right? Like, it should have been, if this was going to be implemented last week that there was the warning shot.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And then this week, there should actually be a full solution rolled out, because what? another week from now, you know, Jimmy Kimmel having been lionized, a bunch of the people that would have been canceled now having been lionized as well. The blowback is only going to become greater and greater as time goes on without implementation of anything to this effect. Like I basically think it's this week or something else horrible has to happen before anybody's going to care. Yeah. I mean, you would have to get Congress on board to pass any sort of legislation so they could like start freezing funds, basically treating them like a foreign, because we have a lot of laws in the books for foreign terrorist organizations. But I mean, like you said, the mandate's kind
Starting point is 00:52:11 of expiring. I don't know how much heats on Congress to really get anything across the finish line here. That's what you would need. You need, you know, everybody on board. But I mean, yeah, I mean, it is promising, I suppose, but I totally agree this should have been a week ago. And this is the week we should have been, you know, implementing a lot of offensive. Well, quick, who do we talk to about throwing the Krasnstein's in Alligator Alcatraz? No, no, no, no. El Salvador. That's fine. Somalia. I don't actually want them to go to jail for being silly little liberals, but there's a question about support for Antifa with Trump's declaration. And I do have questions about how you handle this. My argument would be from this point forward, all statements made would be bannable offenses. I have the rules here from Google. Featured policies violent extremism. Content produced by or in support of terrorist organizations. is prohibited on YouTube, including content that promotes terrorism by glorifying terroristic acts or inciting violence.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Terrorist organizations are also prohibited from using YouTube for any purpose, including recruitment. So, I have a video here. Oh, wow. Actually, I'm going to pull up this one instead because it's our good friend Hassan. Hassan's scared. Take a look at this video. This video was titled, I am an anti-fascist. He did not say I'm Antifa. Hassan Piker, you see him put on a MAGA hit? So there are a bunch of videos that I was going to pull up where they say, I am Antifa and things like this, or they bring on people purported to be Antifa and they, it makes them look good. Hassan's scared.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. He's saying I'm anti, I'm an anti-fascist. That's a very specific term. Antifa is not the same thing. Now, the question is, will he fly that flag? point being, I believe that with this declaration from Trump, YouTube must now delete all of these videos. They have to. If there's a lawsuit after the fact, perhaps they can return them. But for right now, this is the question. If YouTube does not delete them, that shows that our social order
Starting point is 00:54:20 is formally bifurcated. The example being when the Biden DOJ falsely accused my show of being funded by Russians, for which there was never any evidence, and they closed it without ever presenting evidence, YouTube deleted all of the episodes off of YouTube. Only from that period. So here's the thing. The Culture War Show existed before Tenet, during, and after. YouTube deleted every segment of that show, the clips we do, like 10-minute clips, from the period by which we had a licensing deal with Tenant Media.
Starting point is 00:54:52 There was never any evidence provided. There was never any claim of supporting terrorism or anything like that. YouTube just deleted some 400 segments. In December of last year, the DOJ dropped the investigation, said they would no longer pursue it, presented no evidence. In April of this year, the DOJ completely closed to the case. There's never anything there, nothing there. It was fake from the get-go. If YouTube is going to do that on behalf of the Biden DOJ, why would they not take down Antifa after a terrorist declaration?
Starting point is 00:55:25 If they don't, and the presumption is they won't. They will not do it. We already knew that our social order is fractured, totally bifurcated. But this is massive. Donald Trump, under legitimacy of government, is saying, this is terrorism. Here's the declaration, and YouTube has banned violent extremism. I won't be surprised if they don't. I mean, look how all the tech companies coordinate against Alex Jones years ago for
Starting point is 00:55:49 just asking questions. And then what you're saying with tenant, I have a feeling they're not going to do it because they're so aligned. I know they're trying to get in Trump's good graces and they have, they're having with them but I have no faith in these companies don't do you think that the DOJ would be able to apply pressure or do you think the DOJ wouldn't apply pressure and that's why they wouldn't do anything I don't know I don't know that they might but I don't know if these companies are almost bigger than the government you know like
Starting point is 00:56:17 they've been in charge and getting money from all the administrations for so long they're a huge they're their own country to some degree with their own reality so I I don't know if pressure will do it unless I'm but you know Biden did pressure them but because they were so aligned so I don't know see I I mean I'm not sure exactly how far Trump's willing to go but I do think that just you know DOJ sending a letter like that is that makes people you know wake up and say oh this might actually land me in a congressional hearing this might actually have DOJ have sent people out to start an investigation and no company wants that no matter how big the company is the federal government can make their lives absolutely terrible they can make
Starting point is 00:57:04 it difficult to do you know to do to do day-to-day business um i don't think that i don't think that the the influence of just the DOJ saying hey we want to we want to see some results here this is a law you know, this is an actual, this is actually enforceable, so you need to do something and you need to prove that you're actually going to do this, or we're going to look at you for supporting material support for terrorism. I mean, it would be interesting to see the difference because they're going to outwardly say that, the DOJ to the companies allegedly. Meanwhile, the Biden used the back, Biden used the back door to strong arms Zuckerberg to censor all these people, among other platforms. And they did it. So it'd be interesting to see the difference. So what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:57:50 You're saying that because they're politically, you believe they're mostly politically aligned with the left, you think that they would go ahead and say, well, we'll talk to the DOJ and we'll make it look like we're doing it, but we won't actually. Because I didn't really buy their rebranding into being MAGA, this go around. I think it's just a front. Well, they're still left aligned. And there's this political reality, right? Like, how did Trump win a variety of ways, but in no small part because of like the David Sachs fundraiser where he got tech bought in to donating to the campaign? And then Elon's participation in Pennsylvania, right? So if the DOJ were to pressure tech, right, then this unlikely alliance that was instrumental in the fundraising for all of the GOP probably instantaneously implodes.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And then like the next election, the midterms, whatever, that donor base is gone. And then what's the coalition left, right? Like, it's this very strange synthesis between Silicon Valley and, like, the traditional GOP that exists now, and that might disincentivize them from doing anything. Because I don't trust them. I don't trust Altman. I don't trust Zuckerberg. A lot of these people, the Hoffman's, a lot of the people who were at Project Stargate. Because just a few years ago, they were censoring me and my friends off of platforms for saying things they didn't believe.
Starting point is 00:59:06 You want to know what's funny, guys? Just real quick as an aside. Do you guys remember how last week I said that I believe that they were coded weights placed on this channel and others, preventing them? literally like a day after I said that I started getting notifications again so I have an alert set up for my YouTube channels when when there's when there's mention made of Timcast or any Timcast affiliated brand I have Google alerts for it these YouTube videos will never appear it means they weren't being recommended probably about a day after I said there are probably legacy censorship way to attach to these channels the next I get an email with a Google alert showing 10 different recommendations my videos were appearing in.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yep. Someone's listening. Well, there was also a few years ago you could not Google search any of my channels. And what would come up instead was playlists about my channels. And if you actually typed in the full title of one of my videos, you would not actually get the video, give you Facebook instead. And then I mentioned it on IRL. And literally during the show, people are like, holy crap, it's gone. I just searched for it.
Starting point is 01:00:15 First, it wasn't there. I refreshed, and now it's back. And you can now search for my channel. Because for years, yeah, you typed Timcast into YouTube and it was nothing. It wouldn't be you. Now it has changed. I noticed that recently. So that's a good sign, I guess.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I will say one thing that's very strange is, without naming any of these channels, there are some channels that I searched for on the liberal side and they're not coming up. Indeed, I wonder if it's a similar weight placed on a lot of political channels. Liberal or conservative, didn't matter. I don't know. But therein lies the big question with this designation. Will our social order react as though this is legitimate or illegitimate? And if they react as though it's illegitimate and do not respond the way they're supposed to respond,
Starting point is 01:01:03 what's Trump going to do? This is the fear, right? So I was talking with Will Chamberlain a while ago about why the Supreme Court is unwilling. This was specifically the Texas v. Pennsylvania case in 2020. And only Alito and Thomas were willing to actually take up the case. It's state versus state. So that's called original jurisdiction. And Texas was challenging Pennsylvania's unilateral altering of their election laws, saying it's unconstitutional.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And if they're violating their rules, this election is unfair. The other five justices refuse to take it up. I asked Will, why wouldn't they do it? And he said, the Supreme Court is concerned about taking up cases that require. enforcement ability that they don't have, because if people realize that the Supreme Court doesn't actually have the ability to enforce their rulings, it's over for the Supreme Court. So typically they take up things where it gets sent back to the states to enforce at their level. But if they handle something state versus state, and Pennsylvania says, screw yourself,
Starting point is 01:02:03 the Supreme Court has no force, no law enforcement, no military apparatus. They can't do anything about it. the issue here with Trump and a lot of people are saying Trump should do this. Trump should do that. There's a reason why Trump is going slow. If Trump got into office and the first thing he did was announce he was going to arrest Democrats,
Starting point is 01:02:21 it wouldn't work. Many of these individuals in law enforcement would be like, I don't know, man, like this is crazy. I'm not going to do it. And then Trump would be shown to be the emperor with no clothes. Nothing would happen and he'd be impotent forever. That's why many people have been saying he's going slow about it. He needs to build it up. to this point where there are various criminal charges and the arrest of these individuals
Starting point is 01:02:42 seem to be more commonplace, like Letitia James over her mortgage fraud stuff. This is a step off the cliff. Donald Trump designating Antifa terrorist organization is now putting pressure on all social media, television, big tech, et cetera. Emails now have to be turned over. So I already searched. There's a ton of social media accounts across the board that are dedicated Antifa accounts posting Antifa propaganda.
Starting point is 01:03:09 all their DMs need to be turned over, not a law enforcement. Is Elon going to do that? Is he going to say that all these Antifa accounts now? People flying the flag, the Krasensteins. You don't go to arrest the Krasensteins or put him in jail or ban them. The designation happened now. But certainly, wouldn't he have to turn over their communications as terrorists? What would be the benefit for him not doing it?
Starting point is 01:03:33 If he doesn't do it, it's not just about Elon, it's about what would the benefit be for him to not do it? Yeah, like if Trump's, if Trump or the DOJ is like, look, we know there are a bunch of Antifa affiliated accounts, send us their, their logs, blah, blah, blah. And so it's not so, I think that question is kind of weird. There is a detriment to doing it. The benefit would be nothing changes for him in terms of the structure of his business. The fear would be that liberals will dump the platform more than they already have.
Starting point is 01:04:03 But then the other concern is if he doesn't do it, he's in violation of Trump. He just sat down with the man and shook his hand. Trump's saying they're terrorists. Yeah, he's got, okay, Trump has made this declaration. Now, by all means, they will sue. I imagine someone's going to sue, but here's the funny thing. You know why they can't? You know why you can't do anything about it?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Antifa's not an organization. It's an idea. If he's like, hey, we want the logs for, you know, Rose City, Antifa. There are people that have. Indeed, Rose City can file a lawsuit as an organization. But the general distinction, when he declares Antifa as a terrorist organization, they have already made the argument there is no representative Antifa.
Starting point is 01:04:41 They're in a weak in position. Now, if these big tech companies and just any company, if a motel, if they refuse to turn over this information, not so much, but the big tech is the big important one because if YouTube keeps up
Starting point is 01:04:55 these Antifa videos, if Instagram keeps up these accounts, they're outright saying Trump's authority doesn't mean anything. I think Elon's problem will be determining who actually he should turn over for the DMs,
Starting point is 01:05:06 because it could just be trolls putting up a flag who have no part of anything? Well, there's, the government's going to make a request and say, we're looking for these accounts, and Elon can choose to fight or not fight it. The thing is declaring Antifa a terror organization, there's no one who has standing in court. Rose City Antifa, being one of the most notorious named brands of Antifa, are a specific group. They might be able to sue and argue that as an Antifa flag bearer, they are lumped into this,
Starting point is 01:05:36 Sure. We'll see. The ACLU may try and take this up. In the meantime, pending any kind of injunction, which, of course, there's already been a stay on these universal injunctions. This is going to get very, very interesting. The pressure now put on these big tech platforms is they have to just comply. I'll tell you this. You know what I want to see? If YouTube does not take down these accounts, I think Trump should go and make some arrests. I think because it's a corporation, there should be, like, civil fines and forced testimony and things like that. Arrest who? That's the question, right? When it comes to a corporation, I suppose it goes down to the CEO, and the CEO's going to be like, look, I don't even handle that. I don't even know who's involved in that. That's why it's difficult to arrest someone over something like this. Typically, you find the company and force it into compliance, which I think makes the most sense.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah, I mean, Google has played ball, like, in Georgia with the stop cop city thing. It was like 2023. is the Georgia has a specific state law for terrorism, domestic terrorism, and that's what they use to source emails and data from Google. And they were going after like organizers, so people that were just providing funding and that sort of thing. So, I mean, at the state level, there is precedent that Google will play ball if they're, if you're, you know, using a mechanism of law that's on the books.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Trump has to find that. That's the problem. Yeah. I don't think that the, I don't think that there are, are. so many CEOs that are really ideologically committed to leftism, right? Like, there are some people, particularly middle management people and people that work at these companies that are committed, but the people that are higher-ups, the people that actually have something to really lose if they don't comply with the DOJ, I don't know that they're
Starting point is 01:07:24 really committed Antifa. I'm sure there are a handful of them that are. But, like, I don't think Zuckerberg is committed to an ideology. I don't think that he's a leftist. I don't think he's a human. Oh, I think he's a human. Oh, Augustus. Please, don't even start it.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Sorry to be the tech liais on. Shane has a magical ability to derail conversations with his, uh, truth. Saying he's a reptile, uh, who hates Americans and freedom? Uh, well, when he was, you know, when he was coming up, he was fairly libertarian and his argument that that's what he should have been doing, um, I do think that that's, that's honest. Like I said, when the Biden DOJ was making, you know, was making phone calls, that puts a lot of pressure on you. You know, these companies, they have to worry about all of the immense power that the federal government has. So I don't think that he would choose.
Starting point is 01:08:20 He's lied under testimony. I don't think that he would choose to do things for one administration and not for another on an ideological basis. I don't think he's beholden to politics. I think he's beholden to his power and his evil. Money, yeah. And he's lied under testimony about the algorithm harming little girls, you know, like the algorithm picking up on a, if a young girl deletes a selfie, then the algorithm, though, she must be sad.
Starting point is 01:08:46 So we should sell her something. And this is like evil stuff. And that's just a little part of the evil stuff. Why I think he's inhuman. Yeah, well, I mean, I don't, I'm not trying to convince you that he's not. Yeah. Because I know that's awesome. I'm just by saying that, I'm saying that he's not beholden.
Starting point is 01:09:00 holding to politics, and I agree with you. That's the point that I'm making. He's beholden to something bigger. And what, and power, it would be, and if there's anybody that can take power away from him, if there's any organization that can, it would be the federal government because they actually do have the ability to say, all right, we're going to start investigating you. We're going to put a stop to this. We're going to put a stop to this.
Starting point is 01:09:19 We're going to have all these these indictments or these investigations. It's going to make his life a nightmare. That's the reason why he's going to be like, all right, I'm going to play ball, not because he's a good guy, not because he's. He's not an reptile or whatever, but because he doesn't want to have to deal with all of the bad things that come along with the federal, with not complying with the federal government. What does he care if there's a handful of users that are that are politically left that have commit, have a commitment to their ideology? What does he care if they get it wrapped up? He's talking about the entire entire planet, right?
Starting point is 01:09:53 Like he's looking to have, his goals are far bigger than just than what the, you know, what Antifa's after. would turn them over, it's my opinion, that he would turn them over in an instant, whether or not he's a good guy. He doesn't have to be a good guy to do that. The precedence is there. He'll do it because he did it already. Yeah. I want to pull up this story from the post-millennial. The first thing I want to say is, you know, Don Lemon, he's melting down over that Charlie Kirk Memorial. A lot of liberals are. The first thing I want to say is the Charlie Kirk Memorial is one of the greatest days in the history of this country. It's estimated over 100 million people watched, and that was just in the first day the full calculation isn't out yet.
Starting point is 01:10:30 powerful speeches to honor a man whose life was cut short, a good man who fought for making this country better, for unity. And it was a lot of people coming together. It was people waking up estimates of, I think, 200,000 people being there in person. The response from people like Don Lemon and the left was to call it a Nazi rally. They are now upping the anti. Prominent liberals are doubling down saying that Charlie Kirk should have been in jail even. This one woman, who I will not give her the credit of saying her name, says that for his speech, Charlie should be in jail. No joke. A prominent liberal, I'll just say it, Rebecca Jones.
Starting point is 01:11:11 She tweeted that Charlie should have been in jail for a speech simultaneously while liberals are lamenting Jimmy Kimmel's firing. He's back, I guess. They're saying, Jimmy Kimball's fired our free speech, but Charlie should be in jail. That's what they're saying. The escalation that we have seen in the past two weeks is very worrying. Okay, let me just, let me just spell it out. It was, this event was put on nine days, nine days, I believe I said it was, after the death of Charlie Kirk, the murder, the assassination. He was killed in cold blood by a guy who, according to the evidence said, he, he, you couldn't negotiate with Charlie's hate.
Starting point is 01:11:49 The left celebrated. They said nobody would care about Charlie Kirk. They panicked, tried blaming Groyper's. They are now shooting up ABC stations, threatening more ABC. station with terror because of the firing of Jimmy Kimmel, because Jimmy Kimmel lied about who the shooter was, and they're calling the funeral for Charlie Kirk, an innocent man who did nothing wrong, who was murdered in cold blood. They're calling it a Nazi rally. This, it's like three years just happened in a week. Maybe, maybe everybody was, was politically blue-balled from August,
Starting point is 01:12:20 bored, and so then it just kicked off a month later in an insane way. They were calling the the what is it Madison Square Garden rally that Trump did before the election they were calling it Nazis anytime you get enough conservatives together they're going to be like Nazis
Starting point is 01:12:39 they're doing a Nazi rally that I mean it's it's in one ear and out the other nowadays you know there's no substance to what they're saying there was someone that was saying oh look Stephen Miller the Jew was sounded just like gobbles on stage talking
Starting point is 01:12:54 dragon yeah right I mean it's just It's all the same, same regurgitated garbage because they don't have, you know, they don't have anything, any, anything worse to compare them to, and they're all histrionic, mostly women. Oh, yeah, where they were like, they use AI to translate Stephen Miller's speech into German, and they're like, this is so scary. Yeah. Because, like, they were just World War II brain. Like, that's all they can ever point back to, because like you said, Historon. So it's just, I mean, him saying it was a religious, it was religious nationalism on full display. Like, what are you trying to invoke there, Don?
Starting point is 01:13:26 Are you trying to get more people hurt? Because that's like, that's the language that's going to cause people to be violently angry. It's absurd. There's a lot of people that are talking about, oh, you know, it's Christian nationalism, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, man, you tried that before the election and he was still elected. Right. So, like, this whole, like, Christian national and this whole Christian nationalism stuff, it only scares leftists. And he's not saying Christian nationalism, like, like, what, Stephen Wolfe, Christian Nationalism?
Starting point is 01:13:55 He's saying religious nationals. He's trying to invoke like Al-Qaeda. That's what he's trying to do there. It's very obvious. He's trying to terrify you. Handmaid's tail. Yeah, handmaid's tail. Yeah, which is not, I mean, again, I even saw people talking about Project 2025 and how this is actually the fruition of Project 2025.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I mean, it's all just scare tactics to try to get their side worked up. And again, the conservatives don't give them, you know, more than. They don't give them any more credibility than just to give them crap on X, right? That's it. But they want to continue to turn the temperature up, even though as they swear up and down that what Donald Trump said is not turning the temperature down, it's like, oh, he's inflaming things, blah, blah, blah, blah. Literally they spend, you know, all day long and all of the talking heads on the left
Starting point is 01:14:47 and all of these people that even up to and including people like AOC, fascist, they're still, they're fascists. even after Charlie Kirk was murdered. They're like lying about what Charlie Kirk said, swearing up and down that it's a Nazi rally, swearing up and down that it's Christian nationalism, that they're just going to make everybody, all women are going to have to wear the red dress and the bonnet and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which is all ridiculous,
Starting point is 01:15:09 which most of the women on the left... Well, most of the women on the left, they're saying that it's a terrible idea, but they're thirsty for it. You know, they're just like, God, please pay attention to me. You know, but that's the thing. It's all just histrionics, trying to get people riled up in a time, you know, a week after there was just a political
Starting point is 01:15:30 murder. There's a guy going and shooting up ABC. There's, there was a guy in New Hampshire that killed someone and shot up a wedding because, and he's hollering free Palestine. And that's, you know, leftist garbage. It's all the same, the same try to get people as worked up as possible. Do you think Don Lemon's just so desperate? Because the amazing thing here is millions of people were served the gospel, you know, like everyone's hearing about Christ now. It's huge. My favorite thing that Andrew Colvitt tweeted recently was like he didn't realize what they were doing with these tents across the campuses. It was a revival, right? It was like, yeah, he was talking and it was free speech, and that's great.
Starting point is 01:16:04 But above that, it was like an actual tent revival. Charlie went to preach. This is why I talk about the importance of community all the time and why a lot of the efforts that we have outside of the show is trying to make ways in which people can connect like the Discord server. Guys, Mamba Collectibles in Martinsburg, it's open. The building is finally open. I know the coffee shop's not open yet. So maybe, like, once you open, I should have announced that you guys can go play cards and hang out.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And we're going to be heading over there and working on setting up this show for game playing with you and all stuff. The reason is standing next to somebody and making that connection is the most important thing. And church used to do that. Every week, everyone in the town would gather together and they would see their neighbors and friends and they would share ideas. and in many instances, they did a potluck. The church I went to growing up, they'd have a potluck afterwards. That's why me and my friends would go to church. I got to be honest, when I was like 10, my friends were like,
Starting point is 01:16:59 you want to go to church? No, but they have free food, so we would. For real. And it was awesome, like mac and cheese and pie. But the parents, the older people there were like, we got them. You know, like they tricked us. And I guess so. We'd be there by ourselves and we were young.
Starting point is 01:17:14 That largely started going away and has still gone away. That's why I was talking about how I wanted to do that Saturday morning cartoons thing where parents come, bring your kids. hang out in the early morning on Saturday to hang out so it doesn't interfere with church but that community can come together for those that don't go to church. Charlie was doing that. He was creating spaces where people were all crowding around and you know what that showed. It showed the people on those campuses, those young men, there were a ton of other people that agreed with them. I guarantee you nobody would take this bet against me. Charlie probably made a pair best friends every single
Starting point is 01:17:43 time he went to a campus because there'd be 50, 100, 200 people the crowds were getting huge and some dude would be like yeah but what about this one what about that some guy would hear that and be like bro i heard what you were saying dude exactly that's what i've been saying and then they were like yeah let's let's let's talk charlie was building community and when they took his life away he proved it you know it's really crazy i don't think it's crazy that it took that in nine days they set this event up turning point USA is based in a Arizona yeah and i know with all due respect it's a tremendous effort but they're based in Arizona they own the stage and all of this stuff already it's in storage because they do Amfest every year. So they needed only find the labor and pay them a lot of money because you're going to last minute pay to be like, hey, you know the stage setup we do for section C or whatever? We're going to bring that into the stadium, license the stadium, extenuating circumstances, probably moved it very quickly. I'll tell you what the most amazing thing is, is that regular people from across this country with a week's notice flew out and drove out to Arizona. And they're now, I'm seeing now that TPSA is saying they registered around 280,000 unique
Starting point is 01:18:48 devices indicating that's how many people were at that event physically to get people to be like I will take off work and I will travel for this shows you the community that Charlie had built and continues to grow and this it just skyrocketed it's amazing it crushes all the desperate talk from the left I mean I know there's stuff we got to worry about and they're violent and they're brain dead but this is so beautiful you know Erica's speech was great that was very strong speech and yeah I mean we've been to Amfest. Their productions are wild, so I wasn't very surprised that they could pull this off that quickly.
Starting point is 01:19:23 But it's a lot of people. It is. You know what's really funny, too, is the conspiracy theories. None of them makes sense. Don't get me wrong, I think the official story is a little, there's a lot to be questioned in it as well. But there are people that are saying a couple things like, there's
Starting point is 01:19:39 no way you can pull off an event like this in nine days. That's not true. Let me just state again. All of the materials for this are sitting in back of trucks owned by TPUSA just in storage and they literally like can we get some drivers and have those trucks drop it all off yeah and the crews that do the construction for these events they did you see the video of them doing security there's like 300 guys in hard hats and vests pulling the fences up they got the people to do it it was amazing so when they're like there's
Starting point is 01:20:09 no way you can do it there's videos of them doing it and i think the most offensive one uh i've saw some people tweeting about it was that they were criticizing Erica for the way she was quote unquote performing. They were saying it appears to scripted and that, and that criticism is fine. It's that when they claim that it proves that either Charlie's not dead or someone else killed him is where I think it gets offensive. My response to this is the woman just lost her husband in front of her and now you're expecting her to perform in front of a hundred million people, she's never done before. And so the fact that she was able to do in any capacity was incredible. And to me, looks exactly as what I'd expected to be. Like, you know, yes, she's
Starting point is 01:20:58 never done this before. Now you're asking her to go do it. What do you think it's going to look like? Brad Pitt giving an Oscar-worthy performance or something? Yeah, I think there's legitimate questions to have about everything that went on, not with this in particular, but the assassination, but, like, you see X flooded, it's, like, saturated with just easily debunked things. Like, you saw people saying she was skewing the, like, the Satan hand thing. And I was like, that's not that. Like, she wasn't doing that. It was like, I love you, you know, hand gesture.
Starting point is 01:21:25 But they do that. I don't know if that's on purpose or not. You know, because I do think there's bad actors out there who want to control the narrative for their own gain, whether it's monetized Twitter or whatnot. I think it's crazy that, like, imagine she's not the person who built TPSA, Charlie Kirk is. She's got a care in that legacy. I can't imagine watching what she saw with Charlie dying. And then literally within 24 hours, they probably were like, you have to stop, you have to calm down,
Starting point is 01:21:53 you have to push that aside because there are millions of people who need a leader right now. And I can't believe she was able to do it. But understand what that means for someone. It means they're going to tell you to stop emoting. because if your natural emotive state is fear, panic, and despair, you will not convince people. They will be scared. And so I think, with all due respect, she probably had a script. They helped her write it.
Starting point is 01:22:18 She doesn't do this professionally. And she delivered it to the best of her abilities, trying to convey her feelings. And when people say it feels fake and scripted, I'm like, yeah, probably because her real emotions were not like strength and endurance, it was probably fear and despair. and if she actually let that all out she probably wouldn't have read that statement at all and probably wouldn't even have gone on the stage but it's just remarkable that people want what's crazy to me is I met a guy
Starting point is 01:22:42 actually met a couple of people over the past week who came up and asked me and they were like hey did he really die? I got that too you got that too? I'm like yeah my friends who are like work with them in Arizona are calling crying and I was like look man but I think
Starting point is 01:22:58 the crazy thing is for some of these conspiracy theories it's really hard to believe Charlie has gone. Yeah. It's like it doesn't make sense. The image shouldn't exist of him, of that. Like, it just doesn't feel like that's reality. It's, I get it.
Starting point is 01:23:12 It is, it is, I'll tell you this man, I have read a lot of stories by people dying. And when they die, I'm like, oh, man, geez, you know, rest in peace. Ozzy Osbourne. When he died, I was like, wow, he died. Every day when I see a story about Charlie, it's like my brain is telling me he can't have died. How could he have died? And it's like, you know, we all saw the video, man.
Starting point is 01:23:31 It's so surreal, just like someone that you've stood with, and then the whole world has to see that. Argue with. Right? Yeah. I mean, you guys have argued. I didn't get that, but like, it's a very surreal thing. And I get that it just doesn't compute, you know? It still doesn't really make sense.
Starting point is 01:23:46 This is what I was saying on X. I got a lot of messages from prominent personalities of various background. They texted me, and, you know, I wish they would speak more publicly, but there were a lot of, like, former liberal, like default liberal prominent personalities who have spoken out since Charlie was killed. But the point that I made, because I'm seeing all of these people say, like, we have to protect the left's right to free speech. And defending the lefts from getting fired, it isn't defending the left at all. It's defending free speech. And I'm like, no, you're literally offering that left as a defense to get his job back. I'm not saying, I understand your argument about free speech. I made the point that there are these conservatives, people on the right, who knew of Charlie.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And knowing of Charlie is very different from knowing Charlie. yeah and i don't mean to be disrespectful to those that didn't actually know them who are actually taking this seriously but there are some people i feel like aren't taking it seriously i've covered the news for a very long time i have spoken with friends about major news events a coup attempt in turkey talking to my friends and being like wow did you see that the the fighter jet opening fire on the bridge i mean erdogan is is looping back talking about this abstract faraway thing and then when charlie is murdered that's not the conversation.
Starting point is 01:25:00 The conversation is they killed Charlie. That's not me talking about the news anymore. That's me talking about my life and my world being actually subjected to the vile psychopath, you know, leftist person. Again, I'm not trying to say that in any way I am more worthy of like pain and suffering. No, I'm saying like people who actually knew worked with Charlie had hung out with him and And people who knew him way, way better than I did. They are not saying, did you hear the report? Charlie Kirk got assassinated.
Starting point is 01:25:33 They're crying and being like, bro, they killed my brother. That feeling, when you then watch these liberals dance on his grave and justify his killing, is the weirdest thing in the world to me. I've never experienced that. And again, I'll stress many people who knew him substantially better than I, never experienced it. It's one thing when they try to kill Trump and then they celebrated it. I don't I don't know Trump I mean I met him a couple times and interviewed him
Starting point is 01:25:59 he's just a guy he's on the news to me he's a man that I talk about Charlie is a guy that we like he's talked with my wife and about our kids and like he's texted me I was texting like I'm not going to give him
Starting point is 01:26:14 to private details he's texting me words of encouragement I talked to him about doing work and some of the ways that he has done at these universities and And what, what, you know, I made this tweet saying, I will not tolerate, I will not defend leftists who are saying that they will, that they will celebrate this, that is a good thing. And if they lose their jobs, I will not come to their defense.
Starting point is 01:26:38 And there are conservatives that are coming out and they're saying, I will. And I'm like, they are smearing Charlie Kirk's good name to justify his murder. That's literally the only reason. Now, there's some stupid people who don't know better. I know some of them. I'm not mean to them. I was talking to a guy over the weekend who was like, well, that guy was racist. And I was like, that's not correct. I was like, not only do I know for a fact he was a friend of mine, he was not racist, he spoke out against racists, and he even kicked racist out of his conventions.
Starting point is 01:27:06 So, you know, these smears, they're not okay. And then there were thoughts like, oh, well, I don't know. I've never actually watched him. I'm like, okay, that's fine. But these people who are intentionally lying about them and spreading these lies, I'm not going to come to their defense when they get fired. These, these woke right guys I call them. They do everything they can to defend. the woke left when they seek to kill us and justify this murder. And I won't, I'm not going to
Starting point is 01:27:28 abide it. They're gleeful demons. It was, it's really interesting to watch people cheer for someone's death. I mean, again, not so shocking after 2020 with what happened, but when it's someone that you knew to some degree and it's a father, a husband like that, and them, for them to cheer and celebrate, it's disgusting. We do have to jump to this massive story, those gentlemen, CNN's got the report Trump links autism to acetaminopin use during pregnancy, despite decades of evidence it's safe. I love that. Yeah, it trump did it. Yeah. When the doctors come out and say there's a new study linking autism to acetaminopin use during pregnancy, my favorite moments of this conference was when Donald Trump said acidaminna, we're going to have to figure out how do you say
Starting point is 01:28:16 that one. That was good, but also when he looked back at RFK Jr., he was like, he's being more comfortable. I'm just going to say, you know, I think this is bad. Don't take Tylenol. Yeah, yeah. Trump has never had to say the word of Cetaminophen. That's crazy to me. Like, you know, I don't, I don't know. Like, I go to it, we went to the doctor, like, I just had a baby, and they're talking to us about ibuprofen acetaminophen, aka Tylenol. And Trump's like, what's this word? I do not know. It's because he's impervious to paint. Real. They're right to have him because he's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Well, uh, let's read this. And then I have a funny tweet for you. Let's see how the left is responding to this. We already see how they're responding. But I'll pull up some more here because there's studies backing this claim up that I want to pull up Mario Noffel because he's got to tweet about this. They say Trump announced Monday that U.S. FDA will be notifying physicians that the use of acetaminifin during pregnancy can be associated with the very increased risk of autism. They're strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary. So just to treat fever if you can't tough it out.
Starting point is 01:29:23 So let me see if I can, there was this tweet that I saw. Here we go. We've got this post from Mario Nolfel. He says Trump's Tylenol warning backed by Harvard and Johns Hopkins research. He says Harvard, John Hopkins, Columbia, and Mount Sinai all say the same thing, and they've got the peer-reviewed studies. Harvard School of Public Health found that acetymenifin exposure increased the risk for both autism and ADHD. John Hopkins discovered babies with the most acetaminopin in their cord blood were nearly three times more likely to be diagnosed with autism. Even Mount Sinai called the connection to neurodevelopmental disorders strong enough to warrant warnings for expectant mothers.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Now the FDA finally agrees saying the data is too strong to ignore and will move forward with label changes and doctor alerts. Tylenol probably did contribute to autism, however hard it may be to believe that such a thing could fly under the radar and cause a generational epidemic of autism that went unchallenged for decades. Here you go. Shannon R. Watts. So she has me blocked. Right? Yeah, she does. She says, Many studies suggest a major cause of autism is the mutated sperm of elderly fathers. But in a centuries-old tradition, see everything from schizophrenia to eating disorders, men have decided to blame women for taking Tylenol while pregnant, despite no valid supporting studies, except for, of course, Mount Sinai, Harvard, Columbia, John Hopkins, etc.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Except, you know, the science. Keep this lady away from hospitals. That's their response. Men just hate women. What? They're saying Tylenol. I don't, did a woman invent Tylenol? Is that it? She's a punishing imbecile.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Wow. Yeah, so it was funny too because Trump also in the interview said he blamed vaccines. You saw that? Oh, I saw it. He was like, you know, there's a lot of groups that don't take vaccines and have no autism. And then RFK's like, like the Amish. And he's like, like the Amish. And I'm just sitting there laughing being like, this is not a press conference about
Starting point is 01:31:18 vaccines Donald Trump this is he turned it into it though he talked about the you know stabbing your kid with Heppe which we haven't done you know we have three kids our oldest is nine we don't do that we got kicked out of a lot of practices for not doing it and I was it was vindicating to see that today
Starting point is 01:31:33 what was Trump's quote on the Amish and ADHD is like they just don't even know what it is yeah RFK didn't know what to say yeah they're just studies they don't get distracted they're like the most locked in group on planet Earth they're just building like barns all the time like they don't even they don't have time to get distracted they have barns the bill they're amazing yeah and they helped him win
Starting point is 01:31:50 pennsylvania they showed up oh yeah did yeah and they did because the uh i think it was the fda came down on them about uh milk about their milk yeah got rated yeah yeah the fdae came out and and and and like uh scott presler was running right behind the fda he's like would you guys like to sign up and and register to vote and they were like hell yeah i wish i could remember who tweeted it on the day after the election but they basically said when the omis showed up to vote it was like a Lord of the Rings when the trees got up. Yeah. The ends are coming. But it's true.
Starting point is 01:32:22 They're, you know, like, for the most part, there's still a lot of Americans that just want to be left alone. You know, they just want to live their lives. They don't want to have to be involved in politics. And they tend to be more conservative because people that are on the left tend to be active, activist types. They tend to feel like, oh, we've got to make all these changes and we got to do all this stuff because we can perfect society. if we just, you know, do a little bit around the edges or what have you. But when you have the government stick their nose into their lives, into people's lives, you activate people and say, okay, well, I guess I have to.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I mean, back in the day, back in the 90s, Microsoft had zero lawyers, right? And then the Fed started looking at them for antitrust stuff because everybody had Microsoft products. They were just making the best stuff out there. And so everyone was buying Microsoft stuff. And the Fed started to stick their nose in and say, well, what's going on over here? So they had to hire a boatload of lawyers. Now they have more lobbyists than you're just about any other company out there or they have among the top numbers of lobbyists.
Starting point is 01:33:26 And it's because the federal government has stuck their nose in. If you have resources or you have the ability to influence the government and the government is coming after you, you're going to exercise that ability, whether it be at the ballot box like the Amish did or at the, you know, at the with lobbyists like Microsoft did. So you're defending Bill Gates right now? No. You think positive Bill Gates' arc was one where Microsoft remained a trust without hiring all their lawyers? So I don't think that the government should have been sticking their nose into any company. I think the government should basically just F off. Do you think he wouldn't have drank the pee water if the government hadn't messed with his stuff in the 90s?
Starting point is 01:34:02 I don't even know what you're talking about with the P. You don't know about this? No. You don't know about this? I'm glad that I don't. I just figured he drinks pee water all the time. It's like classic Gates Foundation thing. He recycled a bunch of pee water to prove that Africa could be run more sustainably or something. There's a video of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just where he, basically, they purified it, right?
Starting point is 01:34:20 Okay, all right, yes. You went war with him because he wants to block the sun and you want to have. Not a big blocking the sun guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're at least against that. Yeah, yeah, no, we do not. No geoengineering is another issue, which I wish we can get into. But Bill Gates is a no.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Geoengineering, big no. Bill Gates is a no? I'm going to go with Bill Gates is a no. Okay, okay. Lots of start. We found some common ground. That's amazing. I can't believe that.
Starting point is 01:34:45 happen. I was like the... So, well, my question is, how do you reconcile cloud seeding with the fact that there's not even any clouds? Well, there's clouds. He just keeps mutilating them. Well, where the clouds coming from? Cultivating. You're not cultivating. You're destroying God's beauty. You ever heard of air soul
Starting point is 01:35:00 invigoration of convection, bro? Tell me about it, bro. We make them bigger, the clouds. Yeah, I don't like it. You like small clouds. I think we should leave it alone. Do we get rid of the dams on the rivers? Well, that's engineering. What you're doing is like Oppenheimer. First of all, you don't know what unintended consequences you're doing by interfering with nature.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Yeah, but I'm gonna- And you're a privatized war machine that was started in war, and now you're doing it under the guise of masquerading to help farmers. But in the future, I imagine you'll be creating fake rain for data centers that your friends in Silicon Valley will be building everywhere. My friends, I just disavowed my friends in Silicon Valley. Not enough. Not enough. Not enough. What do you need fake rain for data centers for? Data centers soak up lots of water, right? They kind of do, but they're mostly closed-loop circuits, so they don't actually. Have you not said in interviews? You're going to drop fake rain for data centers? It's real rain, actually, but it's fake rain from fake clouds. It's silver eye died. They roll their eyes, but this is a very real issue. We can get into toxological thresholds, bro, if you want to do that.
Starting point is 01:35:59 You're just going to keep deflecting with big words. I'd like to keep a blue collar. Okay. Safe. Big fluffy, natural safe. Beautiful rain, wet, wet farms, wet data centers. So the specific question is... I don't know. You started saying, in words that no one understood. Yeah, no, the silver iodide stuff is all. But it's not good. We don't know. There's two scientists that just testified four days ago before Congress saying they don't even understand what the buildup of silver iodide is going to do to the water and to the soil. And you can mention 80 years of data, but Fauci has years of
Starting point is 01:36:32 vaccines and we know that's safe and effective. Yeah, but hold on. I mean, what you're basically saying is because we can't study the long-term effects multi-decade, we shouldn't do anything. We should not interfere with nature in the way I think cloud seeding is. well but but real quick uh he made a point about dams right that's working with wiped out cities that's working yeah and i get it that's working with nature that like irrigation building dams that's like an engineering i can get behind but what you're doing i don't agree with because i believe and i know your website says you're not playing god i like that you have that in faqs but i think you are playing god well okay so just for one point of context can i ask if you're religious i believe in jesus christ
Starting point is 01:37:10 okay yeah no christ is lord love that guy saved my life four years ago I've got one theological point, and then one, like, technical point, right? The theological point that I think matters a lot is trying to live out the dominion mandate that God gave us in Genesis, at the beginning of time, right? He told us to steward and work the garden. He told us to take dominion over the earth, the seas, and the skies, not just for our benefit, but for the sake of creation's well-being and his glorification through that. And if farms are collapsing due to drought, if ecosystems like the Colorado River are collapsing
Starting point is 01:37:41 due to drought. And we have a means, sort of like building a dam to store more water, to keep those ecosystems and farms alive for our benefit. If it is in fact safe, and I'd have to prove that it is safe, and you should not just trust me, but verify it otherwise, then we'd actually be abdicating our responsibility to God to take care of his brain. But God didn't say to synthesize silver iodide in labs. Yeah, I mean, you didn't tell us about light bulbs either. Yeah, but we don't know how that will affect our food, aquatic life. No, so let me, let me, let me, Let me just respond. I mean, what you're talking about applies to, like, millions of products. Well, there's a lot of things I don't agree with.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Like the wave of fluorescent lights and the chemicals that were in that that caused ecological damage and like, don't breathe it in, it'll kill you. And it's spreading in landfills. I agree. There is a lot. But since the cloud seeding guys here, I'm talking about cloud seating. And I'm talking about how I think, you know, that that, I believe it will be a danger. Because in my sense, to me, a lot of what you're doing plus stuff in Silicon Valley is a tower of babble. So the reason I bring that up, and I'm asking you this, is, would you say something similar to, like, the giant lithium batteries in hybrid cars or electric cars? Well, I totally disagree with electric cars. So we should, what about the oil accumulation from engines and things like that?
Starting point is 01:38:55 I think it's bad, but, like, I don't think we should have people in the skies manipulating weather patterns. I know those things are bad. I get it, I get it. I know things are bad. I don't agree with vaccines. I'm just trying to understand where your line is, right? So, like, should we ban plastic use? I'm actually...
Starting point is 01:39:09 I mean, plastics are very bad for you. Yeah. I'm in favor of getting out of plastic. I try to use glass and stuff, but even that is sometimes lined with microplastics. Sure, sure, totally. So, like, I think we should do everything possible to have safe healthy products around us, right? Like, we shouldn't be wearing microplastics all the time. We shouldn't be eating a bunch of MSG and, like, artificial, what is it, high-fructose corn syrup.
Starting point is 01:39:30 But, I mean, it tastes good, but it's bad for you, I think. But then the question is, there's two, right? Do we actually know, like, the thresholds after which, using silver iodide to make precipitation would be problematic for ecosystems or otherwise. The answer is yes. So if you look at, there's this one study, gets quoted all the time. It's called like potential risks of acute silver iodide exposure, something to that effect. The lowest threshold of silver iodide concentration in water, they can have any adverse
Starting point is 01:40:02 effect on freshwater bacteria. Those are the most sensitive organisms that could be affected by this. It's about 101 parts per billion. If you look at the seeded clouds with the highest concentrations of silver iodide in them, you're floating at around 30 parts per billion. So just in the artificial rain, let's call it the man-made rain, you're still 70% lower than the absolute lowish threshold for any toxicity to anything in the environment, way below what it would take to impede human life, crops, any low. larger system. So there's that for one. And then the second thing is, like, most natural precipitation actually occurs because little dust particles in the cloud are what the water droplets or the water vapor freezes onto, grows into big snowflakes, and then precipitates.
Starting point is 01:40:51 It just so happens that silver iodide is one of the more effective materials for that. And so it's mimicry of what God's process for precipitation looks like already. What if he did organic cloud seeding with natural dust particles? Well, then that goes into, I don't think we should be manipulating it at all. Like, Silver I die is just one part of it. Like, I don't think messing at all. Well, then we got to get rid of all of the coal plants and the nuclear plants and the nuclear plants and the solar farms because they all want by the weather too.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I mean, yeah, there's a lot. Well, I, you know, there's fake clouds. You're just one facet of the fake cloud hierarchy because there's also different things that are happening within our evaporation and in the water supply. I mean, sure, all the birth control in the water. So this is, and I think you've, like, I'm not trying to say you've not made the point. You've made the point that there's a lot of things you're bad. You're addressing this one.
Starting point is 01:41:35 I look at like mercury dumping in the ocean and rivers, and when you talk about silver iodide and things like that, when we are damning rivers or redirecting them and then using them as waste like refuse-filled like dumps, I see that it's largely the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's terrible. I mean, are we going to then like, should we invoke severe environmental restrictions on companies? You know, we have the Clean Water Restoration Act, very famous because it was, was it the Ohio River, I think. Burst in the Flames.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Yes. Was it the Ohio River? Started on fire because of all the chemicals are being mixed into it. And what happened was, it wasn't that any one group was like, let's dump toxic chemicals at burst in the flames. It was that each company was dumping a little bit.
Starting point is 01:42:18 And so when we were like, yo, why is our river on fire? They were like, don't look at me. I only dumped a little bit. It's like, yeah, well, all of you were doing at the same time. Yep. So someone had to regulate that avalanche.
Starting point is 01:42:27 I do think we need it. And I'm not like a climate alarmist. You know, like I'm not like an AOC. And with the California. parts. But I grew up on the Hudson River, New York, right behind, across the river from an IBM place where they could legally dump all their sewage into the river. And I think that was insane. There was a big sign on the train tracks that said that. But yeah, I mean, like, there's 31 states right now trying to outlaw you. Well, so there were. Three states did.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I said this the other day publicly. Like, I know, and over the course of this conversation, we've been ragging on tech companies totally deserved. Like, most tech companies, you know, have no concern for the American people most corporations have no concern for the well-being of like the environment that we live in most tech companies don't really care about America's national interests at all and so I am very sympathetic to people being default suspicious or skeptical or even hateful of tech companies like I get that that's why with people even fairly polite and I appreciate that but like people called you a ghoul on Twitter yeah I remember yeah his booker ghosted me
Starting point is 01:43:32 because of it. But I'm glad we're here now. No, likewise. But, like, I understand that people don't expect tech companies to build real solutions for real people. You don't have to be a climate alarmist to say, like, the Oglala aquifer in the Midwest is being depleted, and farms from the Dakotas all the way down to Texas are going to collapse because of it. The Colorado River barely makes it to Mexico, and all the species dependent on it are going to die if we don't make more water there. The Central Valley of California, people have been farming there for hundreds of years. They're not going to be able to anymore unless we produce more water and there's a bunch of other things like managing our existing water table better that we
Starting point is 01:44:05 should do too and even all of that said we should scrutinize and regulate cloud seeding right because we don't want anybody to be adding any material to the atmosphere and the states that we operate in now Utah their Department of Natural Resources regulates the materials we use Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation does that as well that's great I think the federal government should do that too but we shouldn't like ban it because there's prospective unintended consequences on the toxicological side or on the water table side that we actually can model out and show like what the effects are shoot we get it we do got to superchance my show right now right but i hear you and i when i called you a ghoul it wasn't because
Starting point is 01:44:48 i was blaming you for the floods like i think you were kind of a patsy for that honestly i thought you were a ghoul for the PR tour you did you know and the company which i disagree with and i'm worried about how you know i mean i don't get into the whole thing but like the whole peter t world is not good to me. And I think it's anti-human. And I think we need to regulate what you guys are doing to the earth. Because I know what you're saying, but it sounds like nerling to me when Elon's saying, we're going to help you out in the short term, but in the long term, you're building a dystopia. And I wish you would redirect your, because I think you're very smart. I wish you would redirect that brilliance to something a little less dystopian.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Like cloud seeding acid rain over Silicon Valley. Just stop messing with the sky, you know. You're monopolizing it. I think, I think you might have pegged me as the wrong guy, totally get why, but... Why is that? I don't think that I'm the tech bro that you think I am. I think you are. I understand, but I think we can talk about that more... But do it...
Starting point is 01:45:41 I would love to have you on my show. Maybe we should do a culture war and add, like, two other elements of the discussion on environmental factors. I love... I'd love to have the conversation. I mean, I feel the way I feel. I'm not going to change it.
Starting point is 01:45:53 But I appreciate that you have the conversation. Well, me, I don't know, man. Like, if you give me good points, then I'll change my mind. Yeah. I don't think that'll happen. You're a teal fellow. And I am a...
Starting point is 01:46:05 I can't say that publicly. You are a brother in Christ, though. You are a brother in Christ. Well, yeah, but beware wolves and sheep's clothing. Exactly. Don't trust that because I say it. And I'm petitioning you to stop mutilating the sky. Be mutilating.
Starting point is 01:46:20 I'm petitioning you to help us take care of our farms and ecosystems that are collapsing. And I would like to see you do it a different way. Let's me in the middle. We'll figure it out. I think that we should dig a giant canal. straight into the Sahara Desert and just pump sea water straight into it and then artificially create streams and tributaries and all that to bring it back no bro but then that would the evaporation would make clouds and heat it's cool there's a lot of stuff that's going on the
Starting point is 01:46:44 ground and in the world that's bad too Vegas has got to go yeah just got to go it's for all so many all right we got a good super chance i'm going to my show right now uh inverted world 10 o'clock youtube rumble see you there thank you guys augustus i appreciate you talking it was a pleasure All right, everybody, Inverted World Live, coming up after Timcast, IRL. But for now, we're going to grab your rants and super chat, so smash the like button, share the show right now, and join our Discord server, Timcast.com. Click join us, because the uncensored portion of the show is also beginning at 10 p.m. at rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL. Rumble premium only. You got to sign up. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Most of Stalin says, I own a bar, and during the whole Bud Light controversy, we had people in there questioning why we still had Bud Light on tap. Well, I'm questioning why you still have Bud Light on Tap 2. Yeah, it's a very salient question. Why do you have Bud Light? Are you trans? We did. We did a show, a live show, and we were asked about it by the bartenders. This is right after it happened, and we were like, you probably take the Bud Light out. And so, because they have, like, the beers available, and they took the Bud Light out.
Starting point is 01:47:47 And then I went to, it was funny, I went to a Republican event in Charlestown, and they had Bud Light at their open bar. And then I walked up to him, I was like, why are you guys serving Bud Light? And they were like, because it's like default stock for catering. We didn't ask. They were like, hey, we want to book an event here. And they said, sure, we'll provide drinks. And Bud Light was one of them. And they were like, we didn't think about it.
Starting point is 01:48:05 We didn't tell him not to do it. And I'm like, well, you should, you know. Like, this is the problem with conservatives. Yeah, I had a friend's dad. He, like, broke down in tears. He's like, I've drank Bud Light for 30 years. And I just, I can't say goodbye. And he was like in tears over it.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Look, Coors Light is not significantly different from Bud Light. It's true. You know. All right. Hanamichi says, ask the Rainmaker rep to address accusations. The government is using cloud seating. to deflect from geoengineering in congressional hearings. I think Shane already covered that.
Starting point is 01:48:34 I think we need to do a culture war episode. And not just with Shane and Augustus, but I think it'd be interesting to get a climate change person in here because they seem to have evaporated. Yeah. Very good. Where are they? It's true.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Greta's like, climate change is actually Israel and Palestine. And I'm like, what? Because they keep shooting flares at their boats. Like, what's going on? She literally says this. She literally just like, abruptly was like, the issue with climate change is, is that Israel and Gaza? And I was like, okay, like, you can be mad about both.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Yeah. I don't know how they're related to each other. Like cloud seeding with missiles, maybe? If she just came out and she was like, I care about climate change, but I'm going to focus on Israel and Gaza because what is going on is bad, I'd be like, okay, that makes sense to me. Just Israel and Gaza gets her more attention at the time. That's right, because she's got, well, it's because she was like,
Starting point is 01:49:23 I'm not getting any views on climate change stuff anymore. What do people care about? Because nobody believes climate change anymore Because they've been exaggerating for so long Yeah, right, Skyline says Growing up I saw people beheaded and displayed in capital city I learned peace was a transitional lull period between violence Normies are what's called
Starting point is 01:49:42 Normie are what's called in Japan as peaceful idiots Yep Levinthal Spade says Tim When are you going to have retired Navy SEAL met Brackanon He's written six books in the next Civil War And as an Info Wars regular He's perfect for a culture war episode So be it
Starting point is 01:49:57 I'm assuming there are people who work here who watch this show and they will have heard that that's usually how things happen here even when they shouldn't like we've had things happen where I've made a joke like you know what we should do we should totally just like you know make the world's biggest cookie and then like the next day you know someone's like in chat being like
Starting point is 01:50:16 I bought the flour and then Allison is like for what the big cookie team wants to make and what are you talking about and then Allison my wife she comes to me and she's like we're making a gigantic cookie and I'm like what are you talking about she'll be like they're buying a bunch of flour chocolate chips right now. I was like, why? And then they'll go, oh, Tim said on the show
Starting point is 01:50:31 what was doing it? I was like, I was making a joke about what is going on. You got to commit to the bit, dude. Oh, yeah. Well, Just as stupid, Glazier says, did Trump make an error labeling Antifa a domestic terror organization versus an international? Well, it's foreign terror organization. And
Starting point is 01:50:49 maybe international works, too, but I think so. I mean, but I think Stephen Miller is advising him on a lot of these things and Miller knows exactly what he's talking. about. That guy is on point. Yeah, it's definitely calculated. Like, there's a, there's a few bars you have to cross to get to FTO, foreign terror organization, but I guarantee you they're turning over everything to get that declaration across the finish line.
Starting point is 01:51:10 John R. Hughes says, I literally can't get anyone to look into this evidence. You don't have to play the video on stream. Just look into it and cover it if you disagree or agree. Go to Range Day Bro on YouTube, the last video. Okay. Range Day Bro on YouTube. He's got a pretty good channel. I haven't seen the video. in question, but I've watched a bunch of his videos. And his video is Kirk Assassination, New Video Evidence Changes Everything. It's got almost a million views. I just want to say, like, with all due respect, there are a lot of people that have quickly realized that claiming there's a conspiracy behind Kirk's assassination is getting them a lot of views.
Starting point is 01:51:53 they are quickly rising in the ranks of some of the most viewed channels on the internet. And I think it's unfortunate because it's just not correct. Now, by all means, there are people that are saying a 30-od-6 through a neck, it's going to cavitate and blow out, are you nuts? Why would I believe it? Possibly. I do think it's silly, to be honest, but with all due respect, I'm not trying to be disrespectful any way to TPSA. the very hammed up way, and again, with respect, because I'm trying to be delicate, man, I knew Charlie, you know.
Starting point is 01:52:29 But that post about how he was the man of steel and he was so strong and young, he stopped the bullet from penetrating, which could have hurt other people. I don't think that helps stop the conspiracy theories because you could have just said, guys, the bullet hit his spine, killing him instantly and stopping it in his neck. and it's a horrifying thing to have to say but I think when you watch the video it is sad and it is brutal to admit but you can see Charlie go down in an instant and it seems to me that that is likely what happened and then I see people making videos where they're like
Starting point is 01:53:06 so it was a magic bullet and I'm like no dude he took a shot in the neck that hit his spine and it killed him and then you see the blood come out and I don't know but I was sitting in a restaurant when I watched this video and we didn't know what was going to happen and I had people telling me that he was stable going to make it
Starting point is 01:53:28 and that's what we're hearing now that they got a pulse back and then he didn't make it and when I saw that video for the first time I literally said to my wife you see him go out in an instant and that's what we heard from who is the gentleman it was his name Frank?
Starting point is 01:53:45 I don't know. Turrick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said the same. He said the same thing. Charlie was dead in the instant. And it is entirely possible. I understand. But these videos that are coming out are just like, I noticed a speck in a frame that's got to be a muzzle, muzzle flash or something. And I'm like, it could be, but it's probably not. And the conflicting conspiracy videos, I understand that people want to believe that something else happened. By all means, I will say it outright. The transcript between the assassin and the boyfriend, it's like, That's clearly not real. Like, seriously. It was either transposed, omitting a lot of information. I do not believe that Cash Patel and FBI agents were sitting there typing this up or asking Chachibu to do it because that requires many more assumptions.
Starting point is 01:54:32 The simple answer is the boyfriend wrote it so that evidence could be introduced later on that is exculpatory for the boyfriend. So if they try to charge the boyfriend, they can say, no, no, look at this document, the messages. I had no idea what was happening. And that's enough to create reasonable doubt. That seems to make the most sense. Considering there were trans people that had four knowledge, it seems likely that other people knew about this. And that is the simple explanation as to why the messages don't seem to make a lot of sense. There are, I think, three or four different second shooter theories, all conflicting with each other from different channels that have different videos.
Starting point is 01:55:07 And I don't understand how everyone is like attaching to them. There's the bolt came from behind because you can see a frame. There's a spec around the same time. there's a video of a guy putting his hand and they're like he's got a palm gun he doesn't flinch and I'm like so which one was it there's the theory that a guy was in front of charlie and you can see an entry wound the shirt gets hit the shirt flies up so they're saying he was shot from the front and that it was a low caliber handgun and they're lying about the caliber then there's the it was a palm gun and the guy went to scratch his arm and fired the palm gun with his with his wrist
Starting point is 01:55:38 there's literally no recoil and how the hell do you am a palm gun like this without looking then there's the shooter behind charlie from the other angle because there's a flash of light or there's some kind of bright spot at the moment, which could be a million and one different things, but people all want to just believe this stuff. And I feel like there is a conspiracy staring us in the face that this shooter had an accomplice or accomplices or at least informed these networks. So I will just ask, when we're trying to solve a puzzle, you do not skip over. over what is in front of you and jump to the back. You just don't do it. You look at what's in front of you and you ask where does it lead us.
Starting point is 01:56:23 There is a video of a man running and jumping off a building, carrying something. This same man is seen limping towards the building. This is indicative of probably the shooter. Now it's entirely possible to be wrong. Because we saw that there are these trans individuals online that at foreknowledge, this guy was also part of a patsy plan. In the order of what I think happened, it's likely the official story they're giving us is 80% correct. There are probably details we're not getting because they don't know them, and we are all trying to figure out exactly what and how this happened.
Starting point is 01:56:56 There is a small possibility that maybe after this, the next conspiracy that makes the most sense, this shooter was working with other people, and they've colluded in such a way to obfuscate the details, and this guy is a fall guy somehow. That, those two theories make a, have a massively higher probability than Israel did it, which like Charlie was their greatest proponent and was saying very disparaging things about Gaza and Palestine on a regular basis. So that one is in the realm of existence, but probably in the very low point, decimals of percentage possibility. People are claiming his own security guy. Like, I'll say the other thing. There's video of like guys like taps his hat and then scratches his arm and taps. And I'm like, yeah, that's security. That's normal.
Starting point is 01:57:42 At a loud event, security, use hand signs. I don't understand why that implies anything nefarious. There are people that have tried implying footage was stolen. It's not true. It's like, there's a bunch. I'll just put it this way. I have no problem with conspiracy theories. There's just too many, and they all seem to conjure to each other.
Starting point is 01:58:01 There's like five different shooters, according to all of the conspiracy theories. So all I can do in looking at all of it and be like, yeah, maybe, but probably not. not, you know. 30 out six is a very large round. And in most circumstances, you look at ballistic testing, it blows out the animal. It is rare but possible that it hit his spine deflected into his neck and stopped at his skin. And that's why he seems to die instantly. I think that's, you know, if someone was going to ask me, that's sad, but the more likely case. And I understand why Colvitt put out the statement saying that Charlie was Superman, the bullet hit bone, and his bones were so strong, it stopped the bullet from exiting, saving other people's lives, because he's trying to rally
Starting point is 01:58:49 hope. I get it. I also think it has people going like, oh, yeah, well, that's a crazy story. It's a magic bullet. I don't know. Instead of just saying, guys, the bullet hit Charlie's spine and killed him instantly. It deflected downward after hitting his spine and probably other parts of his skull and back. And that's why it didn't exit. And that is a gruesome, horrifying thing to have to say about your friend. But I don't think the conspiracy theories have the probability here. In fact, honestly, I take that back. I think the actual shooting we're looking at is a conspiracy. I don't believe this guy was a lone wolf. And I think the limited information we have is why they're reporting that. I think it's possible that they're not going to release all the information for some
Starting point is 01:59:32 reason because they usually don't. But I believe that a reasonable assessment is this guy was working with other people. That's how they knew. And his motivation was, he's a leftist. A guy just shot up an ABC building. We don't need a conspiracy to justify or to explain any of this away. These people have been doing this. Andy Noe was brutally beaten. I just, I don't think these guys that have been putting on masks and going around and attacking and beating people are part of some secret government plot. Anyway, I don't really know. So what do I know? And I've watched those videos. Trust me. and I think people are, it's just, I think people want to believe in, you know. They want to believe there's something else out there.
Starting point is 02:00:09 I don't know why. We'll grab one more, we've got Zad. I'm commenting late, and was working and catching hung up, but the Timcast team should commission a docu series where you interview the security teams of left and right figures to honestly show who threatens who and which side needs more security. It would really shed light. No, because the left would lie.
Starting point is 02:00:29 They'd make things up. what I can tell you is we have security teams these are guys who are former law enforcement military vets and they do intelligence reconnaissance and they'll just tell you
Starting point is 02:00:45 because they tell me current threats nothing from Groyper's nothing from pro or anti-Israel nothing from the right in any meaningful discernible way nothing from libertarians the left here's a list of 100 death threats we've gotten this week
Starting point is 02:00:57 it just guys you can go on X and just Google, like I say Google, but you can look it up on X and just read all the death threats targeting me. Just have fun and all the other psychotic things. So, good, good point, but the security companies are neutral. They'll tell you this. All right, my friend, smash that like button, share the show with everyone, you know, we are heading to that uncensored portion of the show at Rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL. So follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast as I mentioned. Make sure you join Rumble premium over at Rumble.com. Augustus, do you want to shout anything? out.
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