Timcast IRL - Activist ADMITS FAULT In MN ICE SHOOTING, CBP SHOOTS Suspects Trying To RUN THEM OVER w/ Josie TRHL
Episode Date: January 9, 2026Tim, Phil & Tate are joined by Josie TRHL to discuss the activist wife of the ICE involved shooting victim admitting guilt, Tim Walz approving Minnesota National Guard support for state police, ongoin...g protests in Minnesota, and worldwide fears emerging about the increased likelihood of a looming WW3. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) Producer: Serge @SearchDupre (X) Guest: Josie The Red Headed Libertarian @JosieTRHL (everywhere)
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Massive breaking news out of Portland.
CBP has shot, reportedly shot two individuals, according to what appears to be a leaked 911 dispatch
screen.
These individuals fled the scene, called for help after being shot, it's a man and a woman.
And according to CBP in this leaked dispatch, these individuals attempted to run over these
CBP agents all took place in Portland.
Now, currently across the country, there are protests and some riots breaking out over the
ice shooting.
it took place in Minnesota, but we have way more information, tons of new developments and
arguments coming from the left and the most, the sweetest, New York Times, creating a video
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and that he stepped in front of it. This is what we are dealing with. On the front page of
Reddit on the New York Times, they are intentionally manipulative.
the information to frame this as though a DHS agent for no reason murdered a random woman.
But we have another big story.
Video emerged shortly after the shooting of the, let's just call her the perpetrator.
I mean, this woman who was trying to flee law enforcement from after committing a crime,
her wife said it's my fault.
I made her come down here.
Now, this is interesting.
this woman blurting out that she told this woman to come down to confront ice.
And the reason it's interesting is that the woman who died, her family said she would never do
anything like this.
So it's beginning to look like this woman likely panicked when the police came to arrest her
because she had no idea what she was actually doing and was made to come down by an activist
spouse.
Now, I don't know for sure, but we'll go over this story and we'll start, of course, with this
A shocking incident that took place in Portland.
Two people shot.
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Let's get into it.
Here's the breaking news right now from KPTV federal agents shoot two people in Portland.
They say two people were shot by federal agents in Southeast Portland a Thursday afternoon.
According to police at 2.18 p.m. Portland police officers responded to the 100 second our 102-0 block of southeast Main Street on a report of a shooting.
Officers confirmed that federal agents had been involved in a shooting, PPP said.
The FBI office in Portland confirmed the two agents involved.
in the shooting, we're working for Border Patrol on accent Twitter.
But a short time later, they deleted that statement.
There's no word in the condition of the people who were shot.
Quote, we are still in the early stages of this incident, said Chief Bob Day.
We understand the heightened emotion and tension.
Many are feeling in the wake of the shooting in Minneapolis, but I am asking the community to remain calm as we work to learn more.
PPP officers have secured both scenes pending an investigation.
East Burnside Street is closed, blah, blah, blah.
This remains an active and ongoing investigation.
Now, we have this post from Andy No.
He says, two people have just been shot by Border Patrol during an immigration operation in Portland, Oregon.
Anti-ice accounts have circulated screenshots alleging that a 911 dispatcher leaked to them information about a call for police assistance.
Now, it does appear that we have a 911 dispatcher screen leak, which reads, 33-year-old male conscious breathing problem.
Spanish speaker said he ran from ice and was shot.
twice. Wife was shot once as well. Just pulled over here. Info slow. It's followed up by saying,
my caller is border patrol, said they shot at a subject that almost ran them over. Unknown if it
hit other subject since they drove off in a red Toyota Tacoma. So it appears that we've got to
conflicting stories. And I got to be honest, I don't believe that CBP just started randomly shooting or that
they shot at people fleeing. It looks like the 911 dispatch report also says they almost ran them over,
which based on what we saw yesterday, lines up. Now, the scariest thing about everything we're seeing
with the breaking news, the dramatic escalation we are seeing right now, holy crap. And of course,
more importantly, that there is no truth. We can all watch the same video, but it does not.
matter. There are people that are trying to be reasonable about what this is. And of course,
it's the right every single time. If you approach these shootings and say, we don't know for sure,
it looks like this may be border patrol was aggressed upon an open fire. That seems to be
the simple solution. It won't matter your right wing for saying it. In Minneapolis, if you say,
the ice agent probably should not have shot this woman. However, she does accelerate with the
tires aimed at her, you're a conservative. There is a large group of people, a large political
faction that will just say whatever they can to justify why you are a Nazi, why you should
be killed. And now in, I believe it's New York, right? They are chanting for Christy Nome to be
hanged. They want her executed. The escalation is insane. Minnesota has just activated the
National Guard to come out and assist police. Holy crap, what's going on? Well, do you remember
I remember last year when that plane crash happened, the Black Hawk hitting the plane at the beginning of the year?
And then for like two weeks after, you would see story after story of like any minor issue occurring with a plane on the runway.
And it was like for two weeks, everyone was freaked out to fly.
Because again, the news media was just reporting on every single incident involving a commercial airline.
This is kind of the same thing happening.
Because last year, I believe there was about 14 to 15 ice involved shootings in the United States.
I think around four were killed, five injured in that ballpark.
And so this is just kind of an indication of we're in a really hot moment.
It really does feel like the country's sort of dows and gasoline in many ways.
Obviously, there's going to be extra scrutiny on ice over these next two weeks.
And I think that's what people should be a bit prudent is it's not particularly unusual for there to be an ice involved shooting.
Again, there was 14 last year as far as we know.
I think it was reporting by the Independent that covered that.
It's just this occurring so close to what just happened in Minnesota.
Obviously, people on the left are going to seize them this.
obviously going to say this is like they're just mowing people down in the streets or whatever.
The narrative is already being spun.
We have a statement from DHS.
They said at 219 Pacific Times, so this is 5 p.m. Eastern.
U.S. Border Patrol agents were conducting a targeted vehicle stop in Portland, Oregon,
the passenger of the vehicle.
And the target is a Venezuelan illegal alien affiliated with the transnational
Trenda-Ragua prostitution ring and involved in a recent shooting in Portland.
The vehicle driver is believed to be a member of the vicious Venezuelan gang Trindaya
Ragua.
When agents identified themselves to the vehicle occupants, the driver weaponized his
vehicle and attempted to run over the law enforcement agents fearing for his life and safety.
An agent fired a defensive shot.
The driver drove off with the passenger fleeing the scene.
The situation is evolving and more information is forthcoming.
The mayor, as issued a statement saying, this is Portland Mayor Keith Wilson.
Just one day after the horrific violence in Minnesota at the hands of federal agents,
our community here in Portland is now grappling with another deeply troubling incident.
Earlier this afternoon, two people were shot and injured by federal agents in the Hazelwood neighborhood.
We cannot sit idly by, we cannot sit by while constitutional protection.
protections erode and bloodshed mounts. Portland is not a training ground for militarized agents,
and the full force threatened by the administration has deadly consequences. As mayor, I call on
ICE to end all operations in Portland until a full investigation can be completed. Federal
militarization undermines effective, community-based public safety, and it runs counter to the values
that define our region. I will use every legal and legislative tool available to protect our
residents, civil and human rights. I'm just going to say it, guys, civil war. I don't care. It's not
funny anymore. There's a lot of jokes about it, but understand what they are saying. They are
dispatching National Guard against the feds. They are saying federal law enforcement duly sworn in
and voted for this operation voted for by the American people must be stopped. And they're
talking about using whatever means they have to stop the federal government from enforcing their
laws. They say they want community policing, but that includes allowing illegal immigrant gang members
and transnational gangs. It allows them to operate in these jurisdictions. This is the United States
of America. This is not a fragmented batch of sovereign states that are at odds with each other,
but apparently that's what is being driven in these blue states. The statement that's made here is
devoid of fact. The Portland mayor's statement is devoid of fact. The DHS statement asserts
some things to be fact. Now, we don't know that they're true, but all I can say is based on
the experiences I have and you all have going back the past 10 years, it seems to be. It seems to be,
that the quote unquote right is trying to rationally assess the situation and the left is just saying
we will do whatever we want. And I use these statements as an example. The Portland mayor again,
not issuing facts other than a shooting happened, but then goes on a call for ice to be removed saying
we're going to resist the federal government. DHS said, here's what happened at our operation. A guy
tried to run us over. He was shot at. That is a fact assessment. Now again, maybe DHS is lying. That's
fine. But you take a look at George Floyd, what happened? Every conservative comes out and says,
we think this is wrong because we are rational people. And every leftist said, arrest the cops,
they're evil. When more information came out, conservative said, actually we were wrong about that.
Derek Chauvin likely was, you know, it's tragic George Floyd died, but this is not a murder,
doesn't warrant prison. What we are looking at is continually, the right tries to be rational and
the left calls for blood. Charlie Kirk was murdered and they are dancing and celebrating.
This woman obstructs police, accelerates towards the officer before turning right.
The cop opens fire.
I wouldn't call it the cleanest of shots.
I don't think he needed to shoot her.
But I think it played out the way it did because this officer, it's now being reported,
had been dragged six months previously by another vehicle and likely is on edge, especially
considering the terror attacks.
I think that's a reasonable assessment.
It doesn't matter.
The New York Times is putting out fabricated information to lie.
Activists are putting out fabricated information to manipulate and gain.
political power from this. There's no off-ramp. I'm sorry. I don't know where we go from here.
It's all adjaprop. The whole leftness, excuse me, left narrative is adjutop. The point is
to create tension, to continue to up the ante, to continue to push the narrative that
ICE is actually the Gestapo, that Trump is a Nazi. You hear it at these protests. The protesters
are screaming at ICE constantly the same thing. Nazi, Nazi. Nick Sorter had a video.
he was walking around last night, the guy behind him, you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi.
There was a video that was outside of one of the DHS facilities.
You guys are all Nazis.
You guys are all Nazis.
This line has been the same from them for the better part of 10 years, and it's to justify
anything they want to do.
The point is to justify violence.
The point is to justify whatever behavior they want.
There is no reason to think that they're actually reasonable and actually looking for any kind of,
any kind of debate or anything.
I talked about this last night.
The whole point is to do what they can to destabilize the United States
because they believe the United States is an illegitimate country.
They believe the whole, oh, you're standing on stolen land.
They believe the whole capitalism is actually theft, property is theft.
They believe all of it.
And the goal is to destabilize the United States as much as they can.
Yeah, I mean, Keith Wilson, the mayor of Portland, that statement he's probably had in the
chamber now ever since the beginning of the Trump administration.
I mean, there's no question about it.
just as to swap out the city and then the date.
But he's been, like, these guys are high-fiving whenever they see an ice-involved shooting.
They're relieved.
They're so excited.
They can finally have the justification to now try and apply pressure on the widely popular mass deportation platform.
And when I people have some people in the morning show, and there's an ice-related story,
I always like to ask him this question because I think it's a really salient question,
and the answer is very helpful for people to understand in regards to why does the left,
out of all the issues, the animating issue for them, the one issue that,
that's guaranteed to get them out in the streets is immigration enforcement.
And you have to ask yourself, what is that stake?
Why are we conducting mass deportations?
What about the immigration system being broken for so long,
specifically infuriates Americans?
Well, it's the fact that actual Americans feel dispossessed by immigration,
legal and illegal.
And the left wing wants to replace Americans.
They want to bring people in because they hate themselves.
So by extension, they hate their people, Americans, right?
And so that's really what's animating a lot of this anti-ice,
fury is just self-hatred. And the fact that a paternal figure, like in this case, ICE is coming in and saying,
actually, no, you need to sort of have love for your country and these sorts of things, that infuriates.
How much do you think the argument that the Democrats are being funded by the people that are coming in?
So you basically, it's a quid pro quo, right? You get into the United States. We'll provide you with benefits.
will help you to cheat the system and get some kind of, whether it be the millions of dollars in Minneapolis,
which seems like it's actually happening in cities all over the country.
And then they're getting Democrats are getting donations from these people, large sums, as well as NGOs.
How much do you think it's actually just like, you know, one hand and washing the other?
It's a economic, or it's a triple threat, really.
So you have the economic implication, you have the political implication, and then you have the sort of philosophical or national.
national implication. So the economic implication is obvious. We've been talking about it for years is,
well, it undercuts labor. So there's business interests involved. And most of these business interests
are left a line because they just tend to play ball more often. And then you obviously have the
political ramifications, which is obvious. I mean, Elon Musk points this out all the time is you can just
like run up the numbers in California. If you can just pack the many people and wait from
to have kids and then that boost the Democrat voting numbers. Because again, the children of
foreign born people is pretty identical to their parents. So they also vote like 70,
30, 80, 20 Democrat, depending on the state.
And then the third one is sort of this philosophical, national sort of understanding.
That's what I was talking about earlier is where they just have a really terrible perception of
themselves and they hate themselves.
And so by extension, they're going to hate every aspect of themselves.
And the primary aspect of a human being is who are you?
Where are you from?
That sort of thing.
I think that I was watching it.
I saw a tweet and I didn't retweet it today, but there was a Somali in, I believe it was in Maine.
And he was saying, look, if you don't support us, if you don't protect us.
and essentially saying if you don't help us gain the system,
we're not going to vote for you.
Our whole community is not going to vote for you.
And so I'm starting to think that I understand the points that you're making
and I don't really have any kind of argument against them.
But I'm starting to think that it's a little more about, you know,
trying to scrape off the top for the Democrats.
Really like they'll bring in in, you know, illegal immigrants or legal immigrants
just so long as those immigrants vote for them and donate to their campaigns.
Well, that's the deal.
That's the exchange.
And so if these people feel shortchanged by the Democrats on this, then yeah, they're going to sort of agitate.
But the Democrats always fold every single time these people cry uncle.
Let's jump to this story.
We got this from Fox News.
Renee Good's wife claimed Minneapolis shooting was, quote, my fault in video amid anti-ice fury.
This is an interesting development in the story.
And it paints a picture of what happened.
The quick gist, of course, is that following this shooting,
The individual who died, Renee Good's wife, is seen crying saying, I made her come down here.
It's my fault.
Let me see if I can find the, here is I made her come down here.
It's my fault.
Additionally, in the report, they state that Renee Good's family said she would never have been part of anything like that and described her as compassionate and non-confrontational.
It sounds like this woman who was in her car, the reason why she attempted to flee was panic.
she did accelerate towards the officer.
The officer had been dragged before, likely feared for his life, opened fire on this woman.
It seems like this woman in this vehicle was brought down and radicalized by this woman that she had been in a relationship with.
My understanding is it's not actually her wife.
They're reporting it as a de facto wife, meaning this reporting, it appears they're actually just in a relationship they call each other wives.
Dayton. Well, yeah, social marriage, not a legit legal marriage. In which case, it seems like this woman was in a relationship with his other woman, radicalized her, told her to come down and do this when she's obstructing the road. These people are larping and they don't understand the consequences. They think they're playing a game. And so this doofy, dumb woman commits a felony, commits obstruction, radicalized by this woman.
who then breaks down and says, it's my fault.
Now, the question is, people are going to push back and say,
no, no, no, she's saying it's my fault like I wanted it to come with me.
Not that it's my fault, all of this happened.
But no, quite literally, the woman is in there crying because she's dead saying it's my fault.
I made her come down here.
The point is, this woman blurted out that she told us to come down to commit a felony.
And in the process of committing the felony, the woman was killed.
And guess what?
She likely has some culpability here.
Now, the issue that we're seeing, there was an article in the New York Post discussing whether or not this, this ICE agent is going to face charges.
And they said, likely no, because it was a clean shoot, albeit regrettable.
And that has to be the stupidest assessment I've ever heard in my life.
This dude could could take a dump on a ham sandwich that was owned by a Democrat and they're going to lock him up.
Okay, let alone shoot a leftist protester.
It doesn't matter what the law says.
Okay, if a leftist protester punches you in the face 50 times, so you shove them, they will arrest you for shoving the leftist protester.
So this guy's going to get charged.
Now, apparently he fled the scene.
But in any legitimate legal sense, this wife, I believe has criminal culpability in encouraging an individual to commit a felony resulting in her death.
Look, I understand your point.
But I don't think that she's as innocent or as, I don't think she was very nice.
I don't think she was naive.
I think that she kind of knew what was going on down there.
She's alleged to be a member of the National Lawyers Guild.
Basically the legal arm of Antifa, funded by Soros.
So whereas maybe she didn't, you know, maybe she's not normally a protester.
Maybe she's not, she doesn't interact with the police all the time, like the paid protesters or paid activists do.
But I don't think that she's, I don't think that she was.
No, no, you're misunderstanding.
I'm not saying that this woman's never been an activist in her life.
And one day, this woman said, come down and do this thing with me.
I'm saying that you've got a broad scenario where the family doesn't understand why she would do something like this.
Because over a period of time, recent, maybe it's six months, maybe it's a year, she was being radicalized by this woman who then told her to come down and engage in felony activity against law enforcement.
I think that she was already radical by nature.
But I don't.
I think a 37-year-old white woman watched memes online from A-list or celebrities and did not realize placing a.
vehicle in front of a federal law enforcement officer puts a bullet in your face.
Like, like I said, if she's a lawyer.
These Antifa people understand they will be shot.
This lady had no idea what she was doing.
Otherwise, she would not have accelerated into an officer.
I think that she's probably not familiar with protests and stuff like that.
But at the same time, I don't think that she was ignorant of the situation.
Because like I said, if she is a lawyer for the national lawyer.
You think that these middle-aged women are aware that they're going to get shot and killed?
I think that honestly, I think that a lot of middle-aged women think they're above the law, totally.
Like, you know, in all contexts.
These people are lovers who don't think it can happen.
That's why when the police push them, they act like the apocalypse happen.
Yeah, I agree.
That's why when they get arrested, they say, I have not been read my rights.
Yeah.
Because they literally don't know what's going on.
I think that they think they're above the law.
The reason.
No, no, no, no.
When they say, my point is when they say, I have not been read my rights, it's not a question of above or below the law.
They literally don't know what the law is.
Well, like I said, if she is a lawyer, she's aware of what the law is.
Clearly, she's not aware.
this woman in the car who tried to flee from federal officers?
I mean, in what reality, if she actually escaped, was she going to get away with it?
No, I'm not, I mean, she wouldn't.
But just because she made a dumb decision doesn't mean that she wasn't aware.
My point is, it seems more likely that she is an ignorant woman radicalized by memes and a significant other
who didn't understand the severity of the action she was getting involved in.
Her family didn't think she would do something like this committing a felony and then trying to flee.
this is a woman radicalized by a list celebrities and memes, and a woman said, come down and do this.
It is a snowflake in the avalanche.
There have been no consequences for these leftists.
So a middle-aged white woman who has no idea how severe this is, engaging federal law enforcement,
thought she was going to accelerate and flee the scene after committing a felony.
Now, that is beyond ignorant.
Okay.
I watch these videos on Instagram where you see a dude and a motorcycle going 100 miles and out on the highway.
fleeing cops and you're like, you're not getting away.
You can't run a radio, no.
Or a helicopter.
This woman doesn't understand what she's getting involved in.
Antifa activists who organize this literally do and plan for this.
And it is my opinion.
Her death was a contingency these activists hoped for and planned for.
What we know about how Antifa organizes in the far left is that they code people,
they bring to these events by color, red, yellow, and green. Green marked individuals are like her.
Well, she might be actually, no, she might be green-coded. The idea of the green, these are people who form
the mass. You want them to get arrested intentionally. You trick them into getting arrested. Why?
It radicalizes them. The yellow are the activists who are in the front leading the charge and the red
are the direct action people who hide in the crowd and instigate the fights to cause the violence.
The way these plans work is, you invite a bunch of dofy college kids to a protest and say it's a peaceful march.
The plan they actually have, and I've seen these planning meetings during Occupy Wall Street and the various activities over the past 10 years.
The direct action groups have a secret secondary meeting, a direct action planning where they literally say, how do we maximize police brutality and arrests of the green category?
If we can get a hundred college kids who have no idea what's going on to show up and march,
punch a cop, how many of them will get beaten and arrested?
They intentionally want you to show up to get arrested.
Why?
Because then when you go to jail, they say, why are the cops doing this to you, poor, innocent victim?
This woman is on the front lines clearly having no idea what's going on,
nor understanding the felonies she is committing.
And then she tries to flee.
and in doing so put an officer in fear for his life and he killed her.
This is a contingency activist's hope for.
In these meetings, they want martyrs and they got it and now they have nationwide riots and protests.
In the same way that we have a moral compass, right?
We have a moral compass.
We have a system of values that guides everything that we do.
Marxists and communists don't have that.
Their system of values is what can we do that's going to get us closer to the
What can we do that's going to get closer to the rebellion?
So they attack the law enforcement instead of attacking the law.
They undermine the Constitution because it's nationalism, and that's the worst thing that they can possibly think of.
Communists want to overthrow the family, religion, history, truth, nations.
And so anything that they can do to get a little bit closer to that, to break down the fabric of America a little bit more, they're going to do that.
And we're seeing this.
And this is just a sacrifice for the revolution.
That's how they see her.
I have been to many an activist meeting.
And I have been one of my favorite stories that I've told quite a bit is during an Occupy Wall Street protest where they were chanting a anti-anticipitalista.
That's what they chant, right?
Well, there was one guy who was going blah, nabi, Agiba da Bastida.
He was just saying gibberish.
I'm not even kidding.
It's not an exaggeration.
And I was live streaming.
So if you want to go find the U stream, if it still exists, you could.
see it. And I asked him, I was like, what are you chanting? And he goes, oh, I'm just
chanting with the crowd. And I was like, yeah, but what were you saying? And he was like, oh, I'm just,
you know, chanting. He's like, I don't know. He didn't even know he was chanting anti-capitalist.
These were college kids who came down to Occupy Wall Street, many of whom were tricked because the
occupier said Radiohead was going to come play a concert. Not a joke. Literally happened.
2,000 people showed up being told Radiohead was playing a free concert at the park. These weren't
activists. They were doofs who were like, cool, radio head.
then the activists say we have to go march people just say okay i guess are walking on the street all of a
of a sudden they're getting whacked by cops what happens next they get arrested the NYPD pulls at the
orange kettleing net if they call it the kettleing net surround them wrap them up put them on a bus
send them to holding now you've got a 20 year old young woman who was looking for a radio head concert
who has no idea why she was arrested and the cops are callous the cops are like shut up you're under
arrest so they have no idea what's going on
Then the activists come in to radicalize and they say, aren't they evil?
You didn't even do anything.
You were just walking down the street and they attacked you.
Why don't you sing songs with us?
We're friends now.
Here's my phone number.
That's how they recruit.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that you're wrong in any of that stuff.
Just in the context, like I said, if she's a lawyer, I think that she probably was at least aware of how things kind of went, especially that with that national lawyers.
So, you know, they're in contact with Antifa.
They're...
The National Lawyers Guild aren't necessarily lawyers.
Yeah, well, they're activists, right?
The National Lawyers Guild has observers who are not lawyers.
Okay, well, so...
A legal observer is the person who's wearing a hat.
And it's a non-sanction distinction where a person says, I'm actually just observing.
It's meaningless.
The police can arrest you all the same.
Your hat does nothing.
Fair enough.
It's like a press pass.
So I don't know that she was actually a lawyer.
Fair enough.
So if she isn't, then, you know, you could be right.
But like I said, if she was, my perspective on it is that she's not as much of an innocent bystanders as other people might think.
I just think if the argument is middle-aged white women are actually planning the murder of federal agents.
No, no, no, that's not the argument.
All the argument is that she was there thinking that she was going to go and she was going to help the Somali immigrant.
She was going to get in the way of ice because ice are the bad guys.
and she was, I do think you're right that she was, you know, believes the line.
You're saying that she did not, she did believe she would be shot and killed if she engaged law enforcement.
No, I'm saying that she, I don't think so at all. I think that she was she, liberal white women tend to think they're above the law.
I think that, and there's a lot of it'll never happen to me.
Right.
That doesn't happen to me.
That happens to other people.
So I don't think that she did.
I don't think, I honestly don't think that she was trying to run the cop down.
I think we're just talking past her there because my point is she was radicalized intentionally to come down to obstruct ice.
Yeah.
But I didn't understand.
that committing felonies against ICE result in death.
Yeah, and I think what you guys are both...
Yeah, we're saying the same thing.
Okay.
Yeah, I think what you guys are both getting at is that
even if she does have some association with the Lawyers Guild and these sorts of things,
these people ultimately still have this sort of cocktail activism style where they really think
that they can do these things with...
Luxury beliefs.
Yeah, but like cocktail activism where there's a degree of edginess to it,
they do know they're being a bit abrasive, but they don't expect like serious consequences
for these things.
They just expect maybe at the worst, they'll get a...
mugshot. And then they could flaunt that.
They don't expect to get shot.
So I think that's
sort of really what's going on here. So even if she is
maybe in these sort of Antifa adjacent
organizations, I think even those people still
underrate
the moment that we're in and that this is a new
paradigm and that the Trump administration
really is, Trump himself
is, I would probably assume
paranoid of having another 2020 replay.
And all the actions he's made thus far
indicate that he is really serious about
putting a lid on this before it does
escalate into the summer of love 2.0.
The principal activists who are career activists wanted her to die, to create a martyr,
but most of the frontline people, because these leftists don't put themselves in these positions,
don't understand.
They've seen so much leftists.
They genuinely don't believe they're going to get shot.
Yeah.
They don't think they're doing anything other than expressing their first amendment,
despite the fact she was committing, I think, two different felonies.
Well, these people think that, like,
They think that everything up to and including pushing police officers is an expression of your First Amendment.
They think that they can assault police officers and get away with it because they're just their protesting.
I'm at a protest. So I'm protesting. It doesn't matter that I'm throwing rocks at the cops, right?
Yeah. And these people are also in a different world. Like we have to keep in mind like this isn't Dallas, this isn't Houston, this isn't Miami.
Like Minneapolis, these people literally remember five years ago when they were allowed to do whatever they wanted.
And there was literally no pushback whatsoever. So these people are also just in a completely different world being in Minneapolis.
I want to show you guys, we got a breaking report from the New York Times.
They title it, video, videos contradict Trump administration account of ice shooting in Minneapolis.
And surprise, surprise, what do they say?
In the video, they say the officer was not struck.
They say that he was clear of the vehicle.
Then he shot her.
It's a lie.
So I'm going to play the video from the New York Times and show you exactly what they said.
But the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to show you a couple of things.
First, we have this video, which, of course, we showed yesterday, but I want to play as much as I can to make sure
everybody understands what was actually going on.
I'm going to play this for you now.
And then I'm going to do a quick analysis before we get into the bulk of the story.
All right.
So the quick analysis first, the officer who does the shooting is standing to the right front of the vehicle.
The SUV reverses with its wheels pointed leftward, making it curve to the right.
At the same time, the officer looks like he makes about a step to his right.
This aligns both of them in one direction.
It's not a question of why was the officer standing in front of the car.
The car turned and it put him in front of the vehicle.
Then the most important part, while the wheels are aimed leftward, they spin out.
There you go.
We've showed it a million times.
Here's the front tire spinning on ice before accelerating straight forward briefly.
This is an officer hearing an engine rev, not seeing the tires.
and the car jerks forward a little bit.
He then draws the gun, and most importantly, the vehicle makes contact with him.
How do we know?
Quite simply, when you see the officer's feet, right, his leg right here, slide across the ground.
See his feet sliding?
It's unless he jumped and slid his feet back, which is not what happened.
The vehicle made contact with him, which you've already seen in other videos, and then he shoots.
Now, before I show you the New York Times video, I want to show you this video.
viewer discretion is advised. A female officer in Baltimore standing much in the same place
as this ICE agent with her gun drawn. As the jeep continued to advance, Officer Caprio got off
one shot. WJZ won't show the rest, but a somber jury saw and heard Amy Caprio dying from
massive crushing injuries. In this video, a video that's going viral, she's standing at about the
same angle to the right of the front of the vehicle, gun drawn,
And she dies in a second, getting crushed by the criminal.
Now that you understand that, here's what the New York Times is presenting.
And watch how they speed things up.
Warning, the video includes graphic info.
On Wednesday in Minneapolis, a federal agent fatally shot a motorist.
Oh, wow.
37-year-old Renee Nicole could.
Trump administration officials said these were, quote, defensive shots, fired because the officer was being run over.
And a woman attacked them.
and those surrounding them and attempted to run them over.
But our analysis of bystander footage filmed from different angles
appears to show the agent was not in the path of the victim's SUV
when he fired three shots at close range.
Now, I want to point a few things out.
The language the New York Times is using is carefully chosen and edited to manipulate you.
When they say run over.
Now, the first thing I'll do is criticize the Trump administration and Trump himself,
which I did yesterday for saying he was run over, which is not correct.
And as predicted, it's being weaponized by the left to claim Trump's a liar.
But outside of that, I can explain how they are lying.
They combine two distinct statements that the individual was trying to run him over and that he wasn't in the path.
This is a non sequitur.
The vehicle, as we've already shown, accelerated towards the officer with its wheels pointed slightly left,
putting the officer in reasonable fear of being run over, for which DHS said she tried to run him over.
After he draws his weapon, the wheels then turn to the right.
So these are distinct.
Him not being in the path has nothing to do with whether or not she tried to run him over.
Victim's SUV, when he fired three shots at close range.
Here's how events unfolded.
Let's skip ahead to the first part of the shooting, actually.
Then, federal vehicles start moving toward the maroon SUV, with sirens and lights blaring.
A federal agent films the scene on his phone.
The driver rolls forward slightly, turning left, then stops and waves for others to go ahead.
Two agents exit this silver pickup and walk toward the vehicle.
Moments later, shots are fired.
Let's look at the scene again more closely.
You hear him say get out of the car.
This is the agent who shoots the driver.
He walks around the car filming and disappears from view.
Other agents pull up and order the driver to exit her vehicle.
Several times.
One of them grabs at the door handle and reaches inside.
The SUV reverses, then turns right, apparently attempting to leave.
Now, we've seen.
But you see what he's doing?
Yeah.
He's skipping over what every.
Everyone can see the tires here.
...apparently attempted...
Skid forward.
The officer in front can't see what the woman is doing.
And in a split second, as he draws his weapon, the wheels then begin to turn right.
I believe the woman saw the gun and jerked the wheel to the right.
At the same time, the agent filming crosses toward the left of the vehicle and grabs his gun.
Because the vehicle is right towards an arrest and continues shooting as she drives past.
The moment the agent fires, he is standing here to the left of the SCV.
Oh, wow.
And the wheels are pointing to the right.
That's so dishonest.
And they stop it.
And they don't.
This appears to conflict with allegations that the SUV was ramming or about to ram the officer.
No, it doesn't.
These people are evil.
That's why, you know what I did?
The reason why I showed you the video before this one, it's information vaccination.
Because you'd watch this and you'd hear this and you'd process it.
But when you actually look at the at the video in slow motion, we can see a few things.
He's in front of the vehicle.
We can see that while his feet are here, his feet slide.
Sliding because the vehicle made contact with him.
More importantly, this part right here is the tires spin.
See the wheel spinning?
That's the car about to ram him.
But because of the ice, it's unable to.
I don't believe the one was trying to run an agent.
over, I think she was trying to escape and didn't care if she did.
President Trump and others said the federal agent was hit by the SUV.
And he was.
And he was.
And he was.
And he was.
And he was.
And he was.
And he was.
And it's true that at this moment in this grainy low resolution footage, it does
look like the agent is being struck by the SUV.
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.
This is very, very important.
I got to play this for you again.
I want you to absorb what the man is saying.
And it's true that at this moment in this grand,
grainy low resolution footage, it does look like the agent is being struck by the
evidence of your eyes and ears.
I'm sorry, I need to play this again because it's a very important people hear exactly what
he is saying.
And it's true that at this moment in this grainy low resolution footage, it does look like
the agent is being struck by the SUV.
It does look like the agent is being struck by the SUV.
Now, do you believe the New York Times will come out and say he was not struck by the SUV?
He casted doubt as to whether or not he was by saying it looks like he was.
Certainly, it does look like he was.
And he slides on the ground because he was.
He wasn't run over.
He wasn't critically injured.
But he was hit by the SUV.
And I would call it minor.
Now listen to what the New York Times says next.
But when we synchronize it with the first clip, we can see the agent is not being run over.
We can see the agent is not being run over.
Now hold on. This is a classic planned manipulation technique for sales and persuasion.
Assumptive language. He said two different things. Okay.
This appears to confront Trump and others said the federal agent was hit by the SUV.
Hit by and run over are completely different.
Often pointing to another video filmed from a different angle.
And it's true that at this.
this moment in this grainy low resolution footage, it does look like the agent is being struck by
being struck. But when we synchronize it with the first clip, we can see the agent is not being
run over. Run over. He has presented two distinct unrelated situations to trick people who don't
understand. He said it looks like he's being hit, but upon inspection, he's not being run over.
Well, that's true. He's not being run over. But the point of phrasing it that way,
is so that general, the general public will think in their mind, the dots they connect is,
he actually was not hit at all.
In fact, his feet are positioned away from the SUV.
The SUV crashes into a white car parked down the road.
A bystander runs toward the collision.
Now, the reason why we cover things like this, it is not an accident.
This was intentional.
They wrote these things down and craft.
this language intentionally to manipulate you.
I want to show you this context as well from The York Post.
Ice agent who opened fire on Renee Good was dragged and hospitalized by a legal migrant driver
last year.
I don't know if we have the, we do.
Here's the image of the ICE agent.
I believe this is, they're giving the guy's name.
Ice agent opened fire was hospitalized.
And then this photo says, a photo shared by CBS Minnesota showed Ice Agent Jonathan Ross
laid in a hospital bed displaying his arms once covered in blood from deep gashes.
The presumption is a, yeah.
So they released his name, I guess.
This guy had gotten 33 stitches and had dragged 330 feet previously when in a similar
situation.
ICE has faced several terror attacks over the past year.
I don't believe this one was intending to kill anybody.
I just believe she didn't care if she ran him in his escape.
She did strike him.
the New York Times, they are activists, they are liars, and they, I tell you how deep this runs.
The guy speaking didn't just write this, record it and publish it.
It went through legal.
It went through their editorial department.
And I'm sure he's got a couple other people who worked on it.
In fact, I bet there's credits.
Here we go.
Let's see the credits.
How do you get rid of this stupid thing?
You can't?
There we go.
Devin Lum, Robin Stein, I Nara, T. Flew.
Tiflintara, Ina Tiflantara's editor, Courtney Brooks and Mark Sheffler.
All of these people coordinated the exact message to trick the public into thinking
I murdered a woman for no reason.
And the most egregious point, of course, is when he says it does look like the officer
was hit, but upon closer inspection, he wasn't run over.
Now people are going to hear that and think, whoa, he wasn't actually hit because they're
manipulating you.
That's the game they're playing.
I mean, this is, this has become boilerplate for the left, at least for the media.
That's kind of why people have largely turned away from the legacy media, at least,
is because they know that the stories are not intended to inform you.
They're intended to tell you what you're supposed to think.
And it's, you know, basically it's one narrative.
And if you go to CNN, you'll get the same kind of narrative.
if you go to maybe not ABC and CBS anymore because what's bareways is a CBS right yeah maybe maybe not CBS but NBC and ABC you're going to get the same narrative so that's why you're seeing you know CBS doing what they're doing is is because this narrative doesn't fly with people anymore MSNBC or MS now like these these these these channels these news organizations they're just activists and they're just trying to propagate a message yeah what's important here like with the New York Times why the New York Times why the New York Times.
specifically them conducting themselves in such an egregious matter.
Because a lot of people in the audience are saying, well, who cares what New York Times has to say?
Because who's even reading it anymore?
You know, it's no longer the paper of records.
Why this matters is because in Washington, D.C., this is like how Beltway politics works,
is the majority of these Democrat staffers, maybe not the Congress people themselves,
but the people that are staffing them and, like, writing the policy, they read the New York Times.
They listen to the New York Times products.
So they are hearing this, and this is what they are perceiving to be true.
So again, it's easy for us in the audience, especially people here on Rumble or whatnot in this kind of alt media space to just ignore them and say, why does it even matter what they say anymore?
Because they're a dying business, which is true.
But there's a lot of people that are fairly influential that are not terribly smart that will literally get their programming from the New York Times.
And so that's why it actually is extremely relevant what information they're putting out.
Because still, for a large group of non- insignificant amounts of people, they are still the paper record.
They're the people that, you know, consume two hours of news a week because they get watch, you know, 30 minutes here, 30 minutes there.
I don't think they consume news at all.
Well, I mean, if they're to be able to see this stuff, they have to consume some news.
I think what happens is millions of people read the New York Times and then go tell their friends.
And most of these people just hear it from some guy.
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
Yeah, every, I mean, I've come out of corporate America.
Like, there's always that one guy in the office who perceives himself to be the arbiter of like the latest,
news. He prides himself off of being this
wonk and this news junkie. And he's typically
a dork, and that's why people actually kind of
listen to him. And he's the type of guy that's going to disseminate
any information that he hears from New York Times, because
he perceives it to be like a position of authority.
And with their snappy editing,
it's very like kind of well-packaged
and these sorts of things. It feels authoritative.
And especially for these people that are midwits,
they're going to see that and go, wow, this must be
true. I mean, President Trump, he's so kitsy and dork.
You know, there's no way that he could possibly
be on the money here.
A big thing that they're missing when they
do this whole report is that reasonable fear of imminent deadly force justifies self-defense
and they have left out completely that part about what that cop was seeing he was seeing who does
like a person who I suck tonight okay so he's seeing so did you hear any of that all right yeah okay so
reasonable fear of imminent deadly force justifies using self-defense and what he was seeing is this
woman crazy or not she's repeatedly ignoring the order get out of the car get out of the car get out of the car
And she has two tons of steel and 200 horsepower that she's turned into a weapon and is pointing at him.
But they, you know, skip over that part.
What we're seeing as a libertarian, we're seeing the libertarian faction split on this because we're seeing ice bad, open borders good.
And that's versed the people who are like self-defense is good, you know.
So whether he was a cop is not relevant to this in particular.
and I know some people are going to have a problem with that, but it's not. He's a human being.
The debate just doesn't even matter. We're so far past argument at this point.
Yes. And people will say, okay, well, so do you feel that way about Ashley Babbitt?
Like, you must think that that was justified. It's like, no, she wasn't pointing two tons of steel at the cop.
She was on arm. She was this one tiny little woman that was on armed. It got shot for no reason.
Like, no, those are not the same thing. But you're not going to convince the Krasnsteins. You're right.
There's no point in even having the debate. We can just literally say Ashley Babbitt was on our side, so it's wrong.
Yes.
There's literally, we could say something rational like Ashley Babette stepped up on the trim
and looked through a window, got shot in the face, shot in the neck.
That's crazy.
This one was behind the wheel of a car and accelerated towards an officer.
They're very different.
Doesn't matter.
We're not convincing anybody.
The people on the right are already like ICE is doing their job you got in the way,
and Ashley Babett was unarmed.
And the left is already saying, we don't care.
Ashley Babel was an insurrectionist, and this woman's allowed to drive her car at ICE agents.
I grabbed that little clip where you can see the guy's leg slide and where you can see
the you see the spin and then you see the weight transfer the ass end of the SUV kind of dips a
little bit because of the weight transfer because she starts accelerating like people who didn't
care they're just like no that's all blah blah blah blah it doesn't matter well there's that there's
that viral post from that female claiming to be a lawyer where she just lied about literally everything
got millions of views yeah it's all manipulative language and she starts by saying I'm a I'm a
former defense attorney with no political dog in this fight and I watch the video 10 times and I can
tell you and then she goes on lie about everything. And to be honest with you, like you're a defense
attorney. If you were a prosecutor, you might have a different perspective. You know, you might be
actually looking at, well, you know, maybe the how, how would you justify what the police did?
Because to be honest with you, with the police officer in front of the car and the car moving
forward, doesn't matter where the wheels were turned. Doesn't matter anything like that. The police
officers in front of the car. The car is moving forward. That's justified. It's justified use of
force. It's that simple. The car is moving forward. The police officer is in front of the
car. That's it. This manipulated language is designed to target people who are just like this,
this woman who got hit. She's a limousine liberal. You know, she's a middle-aged white woman,
and she's got this suicidal empathy. And they also, I think, to some extent, believe that there's
been a chilling effect because of George Floyd for whether or not they could potentially get
shot. Like, no, no cop's going to want to do that. You saw what happened to that. And then they
also believe that the celebrities are going to bail them out. So why not? But speaking as a mother who's
around her age who has three three children this this was not rationally done when when you're a
parent you put your children before anything else in the idea of going down to this like i believe
she's been brainwashed like like tim had said i believe that this woman she was dating did brainwash
her to become an activist um there's no amount of anything that could make me risk my life
in in and and leave my children here that that just wouldn't happen and
as a rational thinking person.
So I believe that there was some other aspect that that was brainwashing her.
And whether it be the news, whether it be the woman that she was with, I don't know.
But that's not something that a mother does.
She did not put her children first that day.
Yeah.
And to set the scene for this whole thing, like what people are forgetting, how did all of this start in Minneapolis in the first place?
It was literally Nick Shirley walking out of the camera exposing the very obvious fraud going on in Minneapolis.
And then Kirstie Nome saying, yeah, we kind of need to send a message in Minneapolis.
We're going to deploy 3,000 DHS agents.
That's how all of this started.
So these people are quite literally.
willing to put their bodies on the line for people that absolutely hate them that want to defraud them
take their country away from them and then on the flip side they celebrate the death of a husband a father
a patriot so it's like we're post debate there's no debate to be had this is a team sport at this point
and i'm sorry to many of the audience it's like thinking we can debate our way out of this we can argue
our way out of this maybe we just need to like come up with a better idea in the marketplace of ideas
you know what their idea that they're selling in the marketplace of ideas is you got kill you that's
That's their idea. It's very simple. At the very least, the more generous people, their idea is let's defraud you and take your country away from you.
Gulags. I mean, they've said. And the right is, let's try and have an argument to win an election.
Yeah. Well, the right. Actually, I'm sorry, the retard right is, I don't know what's going on, but Israel's bad.
Then the Republicans are like, well, let's propose a new budget to help deal with this.
Yeah. It's literally Trump, like, hey, when you do the executive power, the retard right, saying, let's just accelerate a way out of this.
It's like, yeah, that worked so great in South Africa.
And then like the rest of the Republican Party that's like,
maybe we need a new discretionary budget.
I think that might be the way out of this.
And potentially we can have some sort of cocktail debate hour.
Yeah.
Potentially NPR way out of this.
I mean, I would hope that some of the more, the handful of based Congress people in Congress
are having some influence.
I mean, you look at the administration, right, at least the Trump administration,
the executive branch, most of the people in the executive.
branch are far closer to having their finger on the pulse than I'm in Congress.
Oh, absolutely.
Well, for good reason, because they have to, like, make it through a primary that people
actually have eyeballs on where these congressmen, they just slipped through with, like,
one opposition.
And there's like a few.
I mean, Mary Miller came out and she was like, invoked the Insurrection Act, arrest Tim Walts.
Like a few of them are good on this issue, but the vast majority of them are like still
hung up on, you name it.
Let's jump to this story from Forbes.
Tim Waltz approves National Guard support for Minnesota police as protests,
flare up. Tim Waltz authorized the State National Guard to be prepared to support local law enforcement
in Minnesota on Thursday responding to protests that erupted after an immigration and customs enforcement
agent shot and killed a woman in Minneapolis Wednesday. Walls Office said in a statement the Minnesota
National Guard will be staged and ready to support local and state law enforcement in protecting
critical infrastructure and maintaining public safety. Adding his office has every reason to believe that
peace will hold. It's funny because he's basically deploying the National Guard against the protesters.
he's pretending to support.
But the rumor is he activated the National Guard to try and preempt Trump from doing so.
No, Trump still can.
But the game he's trying to play is, no, no, we've got a plan already for them.
And if Trump comes in, he'll try and claim that Trump is trying to make them unsafe.
Now, here's where it's funny.
Over at Kalsh.
Tim Waltz out as governor.
You've got three choices before February.
Wow.
3%.
Before July, 21%.
before 2027, 32%.
The reason why this matters,
his term ends January of 2027,
and there are people wagering
$1.3 million.
He is going to be removed from office
one way or another before
that happens. So I do
find all of his interesting, considering
he dropped out of the race
after the Somali fraud scandal
was exposed. Now with the shooting,
now with the National Guard,
I don't believe this guy lasts. I think he's
going to get nuked. Before we kick off,
everything I want to say shout out to call she for sponsoring the segment uh thanks for sponsoring us but
what do you guys think you think waltz makes it well it's tough for him to stay an officer make the case
to the people of minnesota that he should say in office when he's already conceded that he is not
viable as a governor going forward so at that point it's just obvious the question is then why are you
still in office and again if if the if the reason why he's dropping out is that the fraud scandal is so
detrimental to him that the internal polling has come in and it's like showing them completely
underwater, then at a certain point, they might have to make the same calculation that the
Biden-Kamala administration had to make, which is maybe if we replace you, then I can build up
the profile of a potential challenger. It's, again, you can't just say, hey, I am not fit to be
governor in 2027 and still claim to be fit for governor in 26. Well, he's also been referred to
for a criminal prosecution for the DOJ by Anna Paulina Luna. They were saying Amy Klobuchar
could potentially take his place as governor and then she could appoint him to Senate. Is that true?
Is that the way it works in Minnesota?
Yeah, well, I mean, if he's in jail, no.
But I mean, in theory, yeah.
My idea is that they're going to find somebody who's more corrupt or just as corrupt as him,
but just only slightly less retarded so that they don't screw up and get revealed like he does.
I think Klobuchar has, she has still has presidential ambitions or potentially maybe even vice president ambitions.
So I can't imagine her leaving her Senate seat.
But there seems to be some fairly high profile people that are speculating that potentially she could jump into the race.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I'm not really all that.
I don't have a strong feeling either way about.
about what will happen should he leave,
other than I want to see him face charges.
I think that he's totally involved in the corruption.
I think that he's been doing everything he can to cover
for the people that are stealing money from the taxpayer,
and I want to see him arrested.
I want to see a trial, and if it turns out that he is,
then I want to see him in jail.
He has a good insurance policy
because his lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, is even crazier.
I mean, if you want to play some sort of fond drinking game...
Let's talk about him going to jail.
I agree. And if you want to play some sort of fun dream game, go to Peggy Flanagan's Wikipedia and look at what her like native name is. And it's literally like 80 constant. It's back to back. I mean, this lady is like, you look at her and she quite literally screams HR department. And so Tim Walt has a heck of a insurance policy. And so Tim Walts has a heck of a heck of insurance policy. But if he gets brought up on federal charges of, uh, yeah, but these are federal charges. So I mean, yes, they might, maybe Minnesota has a, an insurance policy to get someone in that that would be friendly to Democrats. But if he gets brought up on federal charges of, of, of, uh, no.
I totally agree. I'm just saying like you get the scalp, but still like you're not really solving the issue in Minnesota.
I mean, look, if you put a couple people in jail, I do think that that'll have an effect, honestly.
I agree. I'm just saying. People right now, like Tim was saying earlier, like these people believe they're above the law.
Yeah. And the more we can actually arrest people, have trials, have legitimate proof that they've broken the law and then they go to jail for it. That's the only way to stop it.
This is also one of those things that moves the revolution forward because what did he do? He ran for.
for vice president of the United States.
Now he's broken the law and the federal people
are going to come after him, you know?
And so they're going to, the left could frame it.
Like, look at them coming after their political opponents.
You know, because nobody remembers
that they went after Trump at this point now.
Now this has completely been reframed,
but that's just another way to move the revolution forward.
I'd also like to add that Amy Klobuchar looks exactly like
Madame Medusa from the rescuers.
And I can't ever unsee it.
Pull it up.
Yeah.
She's also very, very violent and aggressive.
She like throws combs and she eats salad with a cow.
Oh yeah, no, she's perfect.
She's weird.
She's really perfect for live action.
But yeah, like I said, I mean, my hope is that there's, because people keep saying all the time, I want to see arrests.
I want to see people in jail.
And I agree.
I do want to because I believe that there is a ton of corruption.
I hope that the investigations happen in California because I think that they're doing the same kind of thing in California.
It looks like they're doing the same kind of thing in Maine.
It's happening.
I think there's, there's, um, some.
some stuff going on in Ohio.
So I want to see all these people arrested,
brought up on charges,
and I want to see them put in jail.
Well,
my initial point wasn't,
because I totally agree.
I think my initial point is we shouldn't be making arrests
in pursuit of better governance
because it's just going to result.
The reason you pursue arrest
is quite literally justice and sending a message.
Yes, 100%.
That's what it is.
It's like there's some people that are like,
we got to arrest Elon Omar.
How could someone like her get in?
It's like they're just going to vote for another small way.
Yeah.
That's complicated.
The point, yeah,
I agree with you totally.
But you look at people saying, oh, you got to arrest Trump.
You got to arrest Trump.
It's like, fine.
J.D. Vince is to be the vice president.
So what?
It's like, I mean, I don't want to see Trump.
I don't particularly want to see Trump arrested.
But if he actually did something that was illegal and it was, you know, you had proof,
I'd be fine with Donald Trump going to jail.
It would be J.D. Vance.
No problem.
I like J.D. Vance.
Cool.
Because the point is I want to see good governance.
I want to see, you know, I want to see, you know, the actual, the people that have actually
committed crimes, the people that are fleecing the system, the people that
people that are stealing from the taxpayer.
I want to see those people face charges because I want to see less of that in the future.
And I do think the deportations tie into that because I do think that the, like I was saying
earlier, the Somali community in Maine was saying, look, you know, you brought us here.
So basically, or I mean, we cut, we voted for you.
So you have to cover us when we, when we, when we break the law.
That's, I mean, he came out and said it, right?
He was like, look, you know, you have to, you have to cover for us.
And if you don't cover for us, we're not going to vote for you.
Well, it's like that, that seems like not, not that I'm particularly versed.
on what Somali culture is like, but that seems like the way that it works in Somalia, right?
Like everybody's in on the take. Everybody takes a bribe if they can. You hear about that kind of
stuff all over the third world where it's normal. And if you bring that here and they expect that
kind of behavior from Democrats and Democrats are complying, those people need to go to jail.
And the people that are saying, well, you should do this. They need to be deported because we don't
do that here. Like America's not a third world country and I'm not okay with it becoming a third world
country. So if there are people that are going to try to make it a third world country,
send them back. Yep. So true. Tim Walts is really trying to defle
from the Somali daycare scam and really come up as this leader and this grandfather, father-type figure
when it comes to this woman that just died, you know, so he gets up and he makes the speech and he's like,
we'll bring in the National Guard. And he's like, and there are National Guard. You know,
Trump can do the funniest thing because he has significant unilateral power when it comes to the
Insurrection Act of 1807. He has the power to determine that conditions amounting to rebellion exists and then
deploy federal troops and federalize that national guard. Look, I want to see as much, as many things as
the administration can do legally. I want to see them do them. I want to see them do it. I want to see
as much pressure put on these people as they possibly can. If it takes nationalizing the National Guard
in Minnesota, do it. Like, I don't care just so long as it's legal, like, you know, by the
Constitution, do it. Exercise as much power as you possibly can. Because,
we've said this a bunch when the democrats get in they're going to exercise a lot of power and and at
some point there's going to be some democrat that it's that's going to win again hopefully it won't be
the the crazy leftist type hopefully i mean in in a perfect world there would be enough arrests where
this kind of stuff would change and and we'd actually normal democrats and so we would have you know
maybe you're arguing about the the marginal tax rate again and that would be nice but if if if you don't
put these people in jail you're only going to get more radicals in the democrat party yeah
And you're going to just going to continue to get people.
Like, people are so frustrated with everyone sort of playing it fast and losing to the Constitution
or making it fit into whatever they're trying to get done.
The reason for that is because we're kind of post-constitution in a lot of ways.
Like the culture that actually made up the country that sort of ratified the Constitution is gone.
So the only way we're actually going to restore anything and sort of make the Constitution
sort of an act of living, relevant document is you need to like recreate those conditions
that led to people buying into the Constitution in the first place.
Where right now, again, like I said, we're post-concustomism.
Constitution. So it's like most people see the Constitution as an impediment to what they're trying to do
when the Constitution was ratified. People were just like, yeah, that makes sense. Like,
it's kind of surprising when you need to write that down. Yeah. And look, I agree with you totally.
Like, that's exactly how the left looks at the Constitution. It's an impediment because they think
that they should just be able to go ahead and do whatever they want, exercise power. But like you
were saying, like the only thing that's going to actually make the Constitution more relevant
today is likely a lot of, a lot more deportations. Yeah. Yeah. You have to restore.
the restore a populace that reflects that?
I think, yes, but there's so much more to the bigger picture,
considering there's many affluent white female liberals.
We have, we've seen this for 10 years now.
The liberals have an outgroup preference.
This is not something that's solved just by saying,
we're going to arrest criminals.
This country is split between a psychotic death cult and everyone else.
How do you solve for that?
There's no off ramp.
Well, deportations are a start.
deportations target many people who aren't actively fomenting and engaging in these things.
It does help in terms of voting for sure, but you'll still have leftist white college-educated
Antifa types who are going to shoot you in the face.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and look, you're going to have to have, there's definitely going to be significant,
significant civil.
I have no idea why I can't pause this video.
There's going to be civil unrest from this kind of stuff, sure.
but if we get
the government
that we should have
I think that it'll take a lot
of arrests and a lot of putting people in jail
but you could actually stamp that kind of stuff
I disagree
I think it'll take a lot more than that
but let's do this
here's a video from Ross Alerts
this is breaking out of New York
large crowds have gathered and are calling for the
execution of Christy Noem
so you heard him they said Christy Noem
will hang and we also have this
posted by rapid response 47.
Apparently we don't got audio.
Where's the audio on this thing?
Let me refresh it.
It says it's working.
Nope.
Yeah, we're not getting audio out of this one.
It says,
left-wing agitators threaten the lives of our immigration officials.
We're going to effing find you.
We're going to effing kill you.
You're going to effing die, bitch.
Directly inspired by Democrat politicians, they say.
So arrests aren't going to get us out of this.
You can take a look at
every revolution or civil war arrests just agitate.
If you go around arresting a bunch of these leftists,
they will use that and recruit with it.
So what I see with all of this going on is
the hyper-polarization in this country is so extreme.
You're not going to go in an arrest 80% of California.
And 80% of California is going to, maybe not 80,
but 70% holds these views.
So if you go and arrest Antifa,
the entirety of the people in California,
are like, you're wrong.
Well, then everything that, everything that follows is just TOS violations.
When it comes to our Constitution, John Adams to Patrick Henry, they all said that our
Constitution would only work if we all shared a similar moral framework.
And they had related that to like a Christian moral framework.
But now we have people who take bribes and eat cats and eat dogs and want you dead for
disagreeing with them.
That's not a shared moral framework.
It feels like the only way that we could all survive.
is with a national divorce, is to separate the country into two and say, okay, Republicans
over here and liberals over here, and that's not going to work either.
That won't work because of natural resources as well as weapon depots.
And nobody wants to give up that kind of power.
Not to mention that we don't have any states that are like overwhelmingly at one party.
Most states are like 60, 40.
The best thing to do is.
That's the same thing for the American Civil War.
So the first civil wars it were.
You will get people voting and there's always going to be a degree of people who disagree.
In the American Revolution, you had the Declaration of Dependence, which I'm sure you're familiar with.
Yes, they had the Declaration of Dependence. It was the loyalist answer to the Declaration of Independence.
Right. And there was, maybe around was like 20 to 30 percent were loyalists.
Those are still like regional pockets where in America it's like one city in a state is deep blue and then the rest of the state's red.
We're back then there was more geographically based. So a national divorce, it's like, okay, for example, he split off Illinois.
Well, it's still going to be Chicago.
But no, but that was true in the Civil War.
The loyal.
So like Virginia, Virginia initially voted two to.
against joining the Confederacy. And then after Abraham Lincoln dispatched troops, they voted two
to one in favor of the Confederacy. You still had a third of the state. Maryland, for instance,
Abraham Lincoln went and arrested them all. And they were locked out, basically. Delaware and
Maryland were slave states, but they were north of D.C. The point is, yes, look, if California
decided to secede or something like that, the Republican, the conservatives in California aren't
going to be like, oh, no, they're going to be like, whatever you say, man. Because California,
California is going to be like, we'll take your homes from you. We'll seize your assets. They're going to be like, no, no, just whatever you say, man. And the liberals in the red areas are going to be like, look, just whatever you say, man. You will get partisan violence. Pockets will pop up. That happens everywhere all the time. But largely, I don't think that's the biggest factor. The bigger factor is going to be that Arizona is going to cease to exist. That Nevada will cease to exist. Whoever controls the Colorado River is going to shut California down. So Southern California, oh, man.
Man, can you imagine what would happen if they just locked out the Colorado River?
And you got 13 to 20 million people in SoCal who will no longer have drinking water.
Walking dead.
They're going to be eating each other and drinking blood.
Not to mention, like, the thing that frustrates me a little bit about the national divorce rhetoric among other things is like this has been the case for the last 70 years, the United States, is it's just the right-making concessions.
It's never the left making concessions.
So the only situation in which a national divorce would ever actually occur would be the right, like, walking away from the table.
And that's really frustrating.
Like, I do think we're past time where the right should be playing for keeps.
I think the right should be imposing their will on the left rather than the sort of the right is always retreating at every single.
If the right said we're going to secede, the left would say, we're going to kill you now.
So be it.
But my point is regardless of what you want to do, war happens.
Right.
So everyone should start playing Milsim Airsoft.
Yeah, that's an example of where I think the right should feel a little comfortable.
confident in themselves. The best thing for the people do is. I, I, I, I, we've heard this all the time about
how conservatives are just better and they're armed. Well, California has national guard too,
and they have military. And when California goes to their young, enlisted people who are trained,
they are going to side with Gavin Newsom. Yes, I agree. But like, for example, you do have
red state national guards still. And as well, the Trump administration is making massive changes.
Pete Hacks has been making massive changes in the structure of the military, probably not primarily,
but probably in anticipation in case something were to happen, there will be a loyalty test within the military.
And that's why it's so important to be like taking out all these woke generals.
Indeed, because the hope is when Trump flicks the switch, the military and the National Guard in these states side with the federal government and shut down the Democrats.
But that would mean we come to a point where Democrats are like, that's it.
We are no longer adhering to the U.S. Constitution.
And then the U.S. military removes them from power to keep union cohesion.
If that happens.
Otherwise, what happens is Gavin Newsom comes out and says,
I'm in command now and you will not listen to Trump. And you can go to some enlisted or, you know,
even an officer to a certain degree in California and say, I'm going to take your home from you.
Yeah, I'm going to take your bank account from you. And they're going to be like, no, no, no, no,
I'm with you. I'm with you, man. Yeah. No, I totally agree. Like, because this was before in the
Biden years where people would make this argument and they'd be like, well, you know, the majority of
guys in the military are conservative, which is true. But like, as we can see, it's like police
unions. It's just, it's tougher. When you threaten people's livelihoods, um, you.
you just end up shaking out a lot of those guys.
Like the military we saw during COVID,
they passed the vaccine mandate
and that shook out a lot of our best guys.
And they banned the Gadsden flag.
Yeah.
They went around to social media profiles
and moved people who had Gadsden to flag,
despite it being the flag of Virginia.
Yeah.
So it's like even if it's true now
that the majority of the military is based,
and that is true,
at least the guys that make up the military are based,
they will come up with mechanisms
to shake out the base guys
before it really comes to blows.
Like they're not going to roll in
and just hope these guys are going to be loyal to them.
That's true.
But the base, like if they shake those guys
guys out those guys don't like forget the things that they knew in the military oh 100 that's why
either way i i i just people live in movies man uh comby butcher says national guard will not side with
newscombe okay y'all watched rambo you know the national guard there are cooks there are chefs
they work at our kitchens and our schools there are our neighbors people seem to think that
national guard are the same thing as the army when there's a dude who works on week
for the California National Guard and Newsom threatens to take your children from you,
he is going to lick Gavin Newsom's feet. And you know what? I know it's, it's crass and probably offensive,
and it's meant to be a little bit. But I guarantee you, with the left not having children and the
right having kids, that's a tremendous amount of leverage the left will use against you. And you
will see there's going to be a guy. It's as simple as a guy you've known forever pointing his gun at you
and saying, I'm sorry, but I won't let my kids die.
Right.
If there's a natural disaster and there's two houses,
each family has children.
They got two kids.
The kids are diabetic.
I guarantee you, if House A runs out of insulin,
the dad is going to put a bullet in the mouth of the other dad
to get the insulin for his daughter.
They're not going to watch their children die.
And this is the basis of much of earthly conflict that we have seen.
People saying, go near.
my kids and I will end you or my kids need food and I will do whatever I have to do to get it.
And inversely, powerful people saying, if you don't serve me, I will kill your kids.
And this is not going to be explicit, but this is the question asked of the generals in the civil war,
my home or my country.
And if where you live and the food you have and your resources are tied to the governance of
a Democrat, these people are not going to be hyper-partisan.
They're going to say, tell me where to stand.
And that's the conflict you're going to get.
Trump is then going to go to loyal estates, and he's going to say,
quell the rebellion, and then you get fighting.
Right now, we're looking at, we're looking through the thin veneer of this,
with Tim Walts deploying the National Guard stating we will not let the federal government
uses us as a prop.
He's saying the National Guard's being deployed to stop Trump in the feds.
And now they're literally fighting federal law enforcement.
We saw already in Portland when the,
The feds aided at a, I'm sorry, not the feds, the local police aided and abetted Antifa who had been obstructing ICE.
And ICE went to arrest them and the local cops protected them or the arrest of Nick Sorder.
I don't understand why people don't get this.
No, no cop would arrest an innocent conservative.
They've been doing it.
Did Andy know get any help from these people?
Did you guys see what happened in Nick Sorda the other day when he called Minneapolis PD and said they're threatening me, I need help?
They said, we're not going to help you.
And it's like, what am I supposed to do?
they're like too effing bad and then he got chased and had to had to evacuate. Imagine calling
the police in Minnesota thinking they're going to help you. The police in Minnesota are
Antifa. They are the left. You're basically Antifa, quick. Help me from Antifa. Yeah.
I think the best thing to do for people is to get to a state that represent your values.
And I know people say, oh, you always say that. Well, I did it. I lived in Massachusetts and I moved
to Florida. And I suggest other people do that. Our constitution was designed to be limited central
government and they proposed it and with it came up with the general the general welfare clause the
necessary and proper clause the supremacy clause and you know new york hated it and rhode island hated it
and north carolina hated it so john hancock was like hey guys how about a bill of rights and
like yeah that's a great idea so then james madison wrote the bill of rights uh so what what that
what that means is that there's the ninth amendment and the ninth amendment says just because we
didn't write it down it's not a right and the 10th amendment says well if it's not written in the
articles, then that right belongs to the states and to the individual. So we saw that
during after COVID, during COVID where, you know, Florida was free. Florida didn't have anything,
any policies going on with COVID, but New York was all locked down and California was all locked down
and these states were failing. And we saw states rights in action. We saw it work in action.
So well, the central government that we have now has grown mammoths proportions. We still have
state's rights and we're still able to to live in states that are freer. We don't. States rights?
We we, yes. I'm yes. I think the 10th Amendment has been the, the Bill of Rights is Swiss cheese.
Why do you think that Florida, why do you think Florida looks so different from New York?
Because the federal government hasn't decided to go and crush them. Why wouldn't they have
decided under Biden and Kamala to go and crushed DeSantis? Resources, time, energy and different
priorities. They certainly opened the border to allow a bunch of illegal immigrants to come into the
country in places like Texas. And then they sent federal, they sent federal law enforcement to go
and fight with Texas National Guard. So did that violate the rights of Texas? When, when Biden sent
federal agents to go fight to Texas State Guard? I mean, when did, when are you, why are you
by Biden cut down the concertino wire on the border of Texas and he removed the barriers in Arizona.
When it comes to the border, that's Article 4, Section 4.
So that's actually the government.
So the states have no right to protect their borders?
I believe they do.
I believe they do.
But is that reserved to them in any way?
Yes.
So when the federal government is not protecting the border,
so the federal government came in and said,
hey, we're going to, you know, we're in charge of the border here.
And they got in and did that.
However, if they're not fulfilling their duty,
the 10th Amendment comes in and says,
okay, since they're not fulfilling their duty,
then that means the states have the right to fulfill their duty.
So that's when Texas brought in the guard.
And that's when Florida sent their guard over to defend the border as well when the federal government was shirping their duty.
So like the vaccine mandates, those were all state level.
Yeah, right.
And when when the federal government tried to make it mandatory that businesses with more than 100 employees, that was not state level.
Some of it was.
They attempted and they went to the Supreme Court.
Right.
So I think it's fair to say that certainly.
it's in the Constitution, but we don't have constitutional rights. The federal government does it if they want to.
I mean, look, at the end of the day, like, now is right. All power comes out of the barrel of gun.
So, yes, the government has the government has the power. I think it's, I think the better phrase is
might makes. Yeah, might makes right. No, I didn't say might makes right. Well, might makes.
Mike makes. No one never said anything by being moral or correct, but those with might will get what they
want. Yeah. And the left is exerting it and they're proving it. And what they do is, when you
challenge them on this, they respond with, so you're saying might makes right. I never said it was right. I said
you're doing evil things, but if you have the power to do it, you're going to do it.
And that's what we've seen for a long time.
Congress is largely symbolic.
When was the last time we declared a war?
Deploying National Guard from states overseas, I would argue that violates state rights.
It does.
Yeah.
So when has the Bill of Rights actually been applied?
The Constitution was written down, and today everyone is a textualist, not an originalist.
because if we were originalists, we wouldn't have guns.
The states could ban them.
If we were originalists, it would be illegal to blaspheme.
But we're textualists.
So right now, the problem people have is they say liberals are textualists and we're originalists, but we're not.
Everyone.
So for those aren't familiar, it means liberals argue the text of the law as it applies to our language.
And originalists argue what was the intent of the article, of the amendment.
neither liberals nor conservatives believe in the true original text of the Constitution.
Neither.
For like example being,
Second Amendment originally was that the federal government couldn't ban you for any guns, but states could.
That's why in the 80s you couldn't get guns.
Well, most of the states have some, most of the state's constitution reflected.
Indeed.
So it's separate.
The second amendment was explicitly that federal law enforcement of any kind of military couldn't
take your guns from you.
Now, if the state wanted to, they could.
And in fact, that was normal.
that you'd ride up into town on your horse and the deputy would say sir hand over your weapons and you go okay
now we've changed that free speech is a great example i think it wasn't until eighteen 40 was that was like
the last blasphemy case we have free speech but you better not say naughty things about christ the lord
i feel like this this argument ignores the ninth amendment because the ninth amendment says that that
the the the freedoms or the liberties protected by the constitution and the bill of rights
are not intended to say that these are the only freedoms they have.
So basically what the Ninth Amendment does is it reaffirms that people are free.
Right. It says just because it's not specifically stated in here.
What does that to do with what I'm saying?
Because you're saying, oh, well, they could do this.
The original intention of the First Amendment did not include blasphemy.
Yeah, but that we've changed.
But then when you go, the way that it works, though, is you're assumed to be free to be able to do what you want.
The original intent doesn't specify anything.
So you have to go to the Supreme Court and say, hey, this is, this is actually a violation.
But just to make sure we clarify and get it down to brass tax here.
My point is that in 1789, the First Amendment did not protect blasphemy.
In 2026, it does.
Did the, was it brought before the Supreme Court and then they reversed it?
Or were you just saying that those laws were passed?
Because the way that it works is you're assumed to be free.
You're assuming to do whatever you want.
I think, then states can pass.
Blasphemy is still illegal in some states.
And it's just, it's a cultural thing where we stopped enforcing against it.
Yeah, but the point that I'm making is the, you're assumed to be free and do whatever you want.
Things that are in the Constitution are specifically protected.
You're assumed to be free by the 9th Amendment.
And then states will go ahead and pass laws and they'll try to infringe on your rights.
And then if you go and you petition the government, you say, look, this is actually protected.
Then the Supreme Court will say, okay, actually yes or no, that isn't.
I'm not following.
The federal government said you can't blaspheme.
when the federal government say that in 1791 that's true really it's what i had gone back to saying
about how we needed a shared moral framework the states required you to proclaim a belief in a protestant
god to hold office and many still do despite the fact they don't enforce against it so the point
the point is everybody says the constitution must be protected but they don't realize that we
even even people on the right libertarians conservatives or otherwise pro second amendment do not
adhere to the original intent of the founding fathers.
Otherwise, you'd be arrested for blasphemy.
But if you do want, but if you have a law, there's a law that you believe in fringes
on your rights or you believe that is in conflict with the Constitution, you petition
the government, you go to the court.
I agree.
And then you go.
But what the founding fathers did not intend for the first amendment to allow you to
to besmirch the name of Christ.
Just because they, just because they said that and doesn't mean that doesn't mean that.
When they wrote the ninth amendment, they did not believe you.
you could be smirch Christ. Your ability to argue to a liberal you can does not change the intent
of the Constitution. It's not about arguing to the liberals. This is why blast we became legal because
the progressives of the time said, I want to insult Christ. And most people said, no, you can't.
I don't care what amendment you cite. That was never allowed. But eventually over time,
progressives argue, I can do what I want. So where we are today, and this is exactly my point,
progressives argue free speech is shoving a cop and now they shove cops the founding fathers
never intended for you to have the right to attack militia military or law enforcement just because
you can argue to a judge and that judge says you can do an illegal thing doesn't mean it was
protected under the constitution yeah we get so many examples of this now like when the whole debate
was happening over whether or not we should take firearms away from transgender that's one of
thing is like if you propose the entire situation at the founding follows, be like, what?
What are you?
They had, they had, um, asylum issues.
They, they, they had like crazy people clauses.
But like now you can just get a judge to say, no, that's the constitution.
This is the point that I'm making.
The constitution was intended to protect the society and the rights that they had actively.
And they recognize that they would have some arguments and disputes, but 100% of the population
agreed.
No one can insult Christ.
To be fair, it wasn't 100 because Jefferson was a deist.
And that's why Virginia didn't require you to proclaim a belief in a Protestant God, but God in general.
Maryland, largely being Catholic, required you to, was also more neutral because they were like Protestant Catholic,
whatever you want to do. Almost all the states up until the mid-1700s required you to literally say Christ is king to hold office.
I professed Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior if you wanted to hold him.
Also, Maryland was nine fathers when they made the bill of rights. If you went to any one of them and said,
hold on, but under the Ninth Amendment, I'm free. So I can make an argument to the court.
they'd say, no, you're under arrest.
And it wasn't until I think 1840 was the last arrest for blasphemy.
And the reason the guy actually, I think went to Supreme Court,
the Supreme Court said, no, you blasphemed and he got locked up.
Blasphemy is illegal and you have no right to blasphemy.
It's not free speech.
Because God was held above the government.
Yeah.
Also, Maryland was majority Protestant by the 17th-19th.
No, Maryland was majority Catholic.
It was majority Catholic.
It was totally.
I bet my entire life savings that it was majority Protestant by the 1700s.
Initially, the initial badge were English Catholics, but then
became a Protestant colony.
Carol of Carroll of Carrollton was the signer of the Declaration of Independence.
He was the only Catholic to sign the Declaration of Independence, and he came from Maryland
where they were Catholic.
Yeah, for sure.
But that's probably why their stance was they didn't require Protestant.
They required a Christian god.
That was more related to like Freemasonry.
That's same with Virginia.
Yeah.
And then I think throughout the 1700s, they started backing off from requiring you to have
a faith in a Christian god.
But it was still the practice.
It was still largely done.
So anyway, long story short, the point is the Second Amendment, what was the point?
If you lived in Virginia, the federal government couldn't come and take your guns.
Virginia could.
That's why in the 1980s, everything was May issue.
If you wanted a gun, the states could decide not to give you one.
And the Fed was like, don't look at us.
We're not taking your guns from you.
But then we sued, and it wasn't until 2010.
The Supreme Court actually said, nah, everybody can have guns.
Because what's happening is, and it's intentional, states' rights are being eroded
intentionally over time, and we're in favor of it. When we argue the federal government,
the federal constitution protects my right to have a gun in West Virginia for constitutional
carry, I am saying the federal constitution supersedes the laws and the constitution of West
Virginia. Okay, then that's federal supremacy over the constitution and laws of a state.
And that's the argument being made by conservatives, that Maryland shouldn't be allowed to ban
from having guns, and we are winning in that fight, giving the federal government more power to tell
the states you can't, which is interesting because no one in the Constitution does it say states can't
ban guns.
No, states can regulate a right.
So that was the ruling states could regulate a right.
So, for instance, speech.
You can't ban the speech.
You can't, you can't ban it, but you can regulate it into submission.
You can say, okay, well, you need a permit.
You know, you need a permit to protest here.
You know, you can do it between these times and that sort of thing.
And then when it comes to guns, they can't ban them, but they can regulate them into submission.
And so that's where states rights.
We have to squeeze in one more segment.
This is from the New York Post.
Excellent.
Babavanga has predicted an alien spaceship would enter Earth's atmosphere and the outbreak of World War III will happen in 2026.
Well, that proves it.
Who's Baba Vanga?
What?
I know.
You don't know Baba Vanga?
I do not know Baba Vang.
The clairvoyant?
I'm going to go and look.
It's her.
Oh, okay.
The blind Bulgarian mystic Babavanga made some frightening predictions for 2026, including aliens and the start of World War III.
Well, there's that, what is it, L3, whatever meteor that's coming?
What is it?
Interstellar spaceship.
Yeah, yeah.
What was the, I forget what it's called.
I'm forgetting the name of it.
What's the object called everyone's freaking out about?
Walsh was talking about it like today.
Three something.
Yeah, it was like a Wi-Fi password.
There's an object that they can't identify.
It's like a Wi-Fi password.
It looks like a.
It looked like a.
Minnesota City Council.
Three-I Atlas.
Three-I Atlas.
There you go.
That's like a...
Three-I Atlas is accelerating and decelerating in ways that don't make sense, and it originated
from the location of the wow signal.
Oh, did it?
Okay.
Indeed.
I've heard of the wow signal.
I didn't know that it originated there.
The wow signal was in the 70s.
Astronomers were tracking a certain portion of origin of space, and they saw a radio burst
that did not look natural and hasn't been repeated that they think may have originated
from intelligent life.
Well, three-eye Atlas is believed to have originated.
from the same region of space.
It's called the wow single because the guys that read it were just like, wow.
Well, I thought it was like he wrote wow on it.
That's legit.
I'm not just making a joke.
That's actually what they did.
So awesome.
I love that.
Three-eye Atlas is coming.
So clairvoyant Babavanga long believed by devotees to a foreseen 9-11 in the COVID-19 pandemic
predicted alien visitors in World War III.
They say she warned that a colossal alien spacecraft would enter Earth's atmosphere,
though she did not elaborate on their intentions.
The prediction has been, has taken on added intrigue for some,
believers admit an uptick and reported UFOs, blah blah, blah, UAP, they say.
And of course, oh, it's funny.
If we literally just read the article, 3A Atlas is right there.
Among her most ominous forecast was a warning that World War III would erupt in 2026,
a prediction made more unsettling by rising global tensions.
Let's add this.
Mystery is America's nuclear sniffer jet makes strange journey across several states.
Why is the U.S. nuclear sniffer patrolling South Dakota and Nebraska?
North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska.
Very strange.
How about this?
U.S. Navy chasing oil tankers fleeing Venezuelan waters.
Around a dozen Venezuelan tankers are being pursued by the U.S. for seizure.
I think Babavankham may be right.
Yeah.
I don't know what that means about the aliens, though, but aliens in World War III at the same time.
Maybe World War III gets so hot that we're all about to fire nukes,
and then the aliens appear and stop us.
That's awful white pill.
Yeah.
You know, like the idea that we're going to kill ourselves, and then the aliens come and say,
Hold on.
Okay. We launch nukes at each other, blow everybody up, and then the aliens come and harvest the rest.
Yeah, or they recede. Like, everyone's dead and they're just like, all right, we're going to drive.
Why wouldn't they have intervened during the atom bomb?
They allegedly did.
What takes on you?
The aliens intervened?
Yes. Excellent.
There's a conspiracy theory that at some point in like the 70s during the Cold War, there was an attempt to launch nukes between the U.S. and the Soviet Union and UFOs appeared and then all of them the nukes deactivated.
Interesting.
Or what if there is aliens actively intervening?
and they just suck.
There is a theory that aliens are actually interdimensional beings,
so you could be angels or demons intervening too.
Here we go.
The Malmstrom UFO incident.
I don't know if this is the exact incident.
I just looked it up.
1996 retired Air Force personnel claimed that a weapons failure
at a Montana nuclear missile complex in 1967
was connected to reports of a UFO at Malmstrom Air Force Base.
The claims became known in Ufology as the Malmstrom UFO incident.
Skeptics argued if UFO was likely Mars and entirely unrelated.
Military investigation found no connection to UFOs.
They say they're operating underground missile complex.
An Air Force report noted that on the 16th, all sites in Echo Flight shut down with no-go
indications.
All launch facilities in e-flight lost strategic alert nearly simultaneously.
No other wing-one configuration lost strategic alert at the time.
The report continued rumors of UFO around the area during the time of the fault were disproven.
That's the conspiracy theory is that the aliens came and stopped us or whatever.
from nuclear war, which, you know, this proves it so.
It's kind of like when I stop my kids from fighting.
Yeah.
I think there's probably like the New York Post has a list of like weird Eastern European
mystics that make a prediction every year.
Hitting the land.
What happened?
And we are going to start now hitting the land with regard to the cartels.
The cartels are running Mexico.
It's very, very sad to watch and see what's happened to that country.
But the cartels are running and they're killing 250, 350, 300.
hundred thousand people in our country every single year the drugs it's horrible it's devastated families
generally lose a child or a parent i mean parents are okay the u.s is going to start bombing mexico now
what did you think dunrod joctrine looked like vibes essays it looks like uh we're getting after it you
know run for the hills get the donkeys moving it's time to clear out i think baba vanga was
correct maybe she was cooking or this is going to be or trump's going to clutch up here i think
i think trump's going to clutch i think trump's going to clutch i don't see mexico's a
viable opponent to start World War III.
The Zimmerman Telegraph days are over.
I mean, what does Mexico even have?
Tacos?
Yeah, literally, what are they going to do?
We have tacos.
We have Taco Bell.
Yeah, their best weapon against the United States is just sending their people here.
Like, I don't think they're going to be too vye.
This should be pretty easy, I think.
Not too worried.
Oh, man.
Yeah, you know, it's what happens.
Look, I mean, Baba Vanga, if she actually did predict 9-11 and predict the
the COVID thing, you know, we'll see what happens for this year.
I don't know that I tend to believe in.
I think there's an Eastern European mystic that predicted every year because, like, she died
in like the 90s.
There's probably someone named like Wobabah, and she predicted 2027 is the year where the aliens
come here and World War III breaks out.
And the New York Post just has a list of these articles ready to go every year.
Because it's like every year I learn about a new blind mystic.
To play devil's advocate, like tensions have are actually very high with the U.S. going after
all these ships and stuff.
I've made remarks that I don't think that there's a considerable danger of world war because of the fact that like Russia's kind of shown that it's a paper tiger.
It can't even beat Ukraine.
China, I don't think that China has any kind of designs beyond the South China Sea and Taiwan.
I don't think they want a nuclear war.
It's possible that a world war could be something that isn't nuclear where everyone's kind of just using conventional weapons.
I guess that's possible.
maybe there will be aliens on the starship that's more likely to be the World War III
I mean to be honest Israel and Iran went to blows last summer and like nothing really came out
of it yeah I mean well they can go to blows and then it doesn't like kick off a domino effect
it's going to take a lot to like string the axis powers together so we just talk about how much
Dick Cheney and John McCain would just love this timeline like they're coo in Venezuela
for oil I mean these guys would just be all over it they'd want to spend 20 trillion
to do it, but I'm just saying, you know, we got to, we got to, you know, they're looking up,
they're looking up at us.
I saw, I saw a thing today that among the, the right, the conservatives, the actions taken
in Venezuela are like 94% positive.
Like, everybody's like, that was a great.
Well, but to be.
Among mega, among non-Mega conservatives, 80%.
Yeah, because like, if the new, like Tucker and Megyn Kelly.
Well, and if Venezuela was like such an obvious play for Neocons, they would have done it.
I mean, they've had, they would have had the justification, like, decades.
ago. Like this is a big departure from Iraq and Afghanistan, at least in my assessment.
I don't think Dick Cheney would be like exuberant over America, like exercising its strength
on the global stage. I think he would rather see like a quagmire there, maybe like a slow invasion.
Oh, we don't need a capture Maduro yet. Maybe we should apply some pressure here. Because he wants to
spend money. He wants to spend money. Yeah, exactly. So this is too quick and too efficient.
Yeah. They hate that. They would like to see some paychecks cut first rather than Delta Force just Friday night. Boys,
Let's head down there, then we'll be back in Miami by the evening.
What do you guys think?
I think those guys are actually heading to the Middle East again.
Could be.
There's all the movement of the 160th store, moving into Europe,
and that's the night stockers.
We need the aliens to come.
Like, evil or good, it doesn't matter.
If they're good, then we can all hold hands,
and they can grant us technology.
If they're evil, we'll have unified enemy.
It's just win-win.
We need the space jam aliens,
because Oklahoma City Thunder are looking a little too good this year,
And I think potentially we could have maybe the, what was it, the monstars.
I think maybe the mon stars come back.
I'm not sold on interstellar travel, like between stars.
Like, I'm not so sure that it's possible.
Obviously, if there's some new physics that we can find, yeah, but it's looking like light speed is the speed limit of the universe.
I mean, even gravity travels at light speed, right?
So if the sun disappeared, not only would the light take eight minutes to get here, but it would take eight minutes for the effect of gravity from the sun to space.
Yeah, so if there's, if that's possible, yeah, okay.
Come on.
Otherwise, Star Trek used this in the 60s.
The idea being that you don't travel faster than light, you create a warp bubble and move between space.
Yeah, yeah.
So you're not actually moving at all.
Yeah.
And so look, again, if that can happen, then you actually don't break the rules of physics.
You know, you don't actually travel faster than light.
Fine.
War bubbles are theoretically possible.
Yeah, the amount of energy that it would take to bend space.
Like that is...
You need anti-matter.
Yeah, you would have to be...
We got some.
A tiny, tiny...
We have like a trillions of a kilogram or something.
A very small amount.
And it takes a lot of energy to prevent it from interacting with matter.
Oh, magnets.
Yeah, you have to put a magnet ring.
It takes a massive amount of energy to control that stuff.
What about when you add in the atom smasher to it?
Can that tear a hole into the spacetime?
The theory behind warp drive would be smashing antimatter in a matter, like a flicking a piston.
which warps, emit so much energy, it causes a warp in space, something like that.
You have to compress space in front of you and extend space behind you for a warp to work.
And they describe it like putting a marble in a straw and then squeezing the straw, the marble is pushed forward.
Interesting.
So again, if there is some kind of new physics found, yeah, but I'm still short on the idea of interstellar travel.
Some physics DLC would be nice.
Just update the whole, you know, software.
It's just getting more boring.
What if, like, just, you know, in 20 years, we, magic is real.
And, like, scientists are, like, we've actually figured out how to cast spells and then just...
That'd be sick.
Yeah.
And teleportation would be sick.
Yeah, we keep having to read these Somali names.
Eventually, someone's going to cast a spell.
One of the best things about teleportation is they find it.
They're going through a list of Somali names and all of a sudden just fired.
Look at a hum-on.
And then all of a sudden, this starts floating.
Whoa!
It's the magic of the Somalis.
I start casting spells.
Ever could ever, get out of here.
And it's flings a mess.
to their country.
If teleportation were real,
I think that Jeff Bezos
would probably have found it
and you'd be delivered
like,
Stephen Miller would have been all of them.
Just imagine,
wouldn't it be based
if there was like a portal
gun where you could shoot
somebody and it would portal them
to any location you want?
So like,
ice just walks around,
walk up people and go like,
and they disappear back.
You're out.
It's so efficient.
The gun would have to be called
due process.
Yeah, I guarantee you
Stephen Miller's working on it
and he's got that in the works.
He's pretty great.
He's pretty great.
Zap and then you're back in Somalia.
You're back in Somalia.
See you.
There's no.
No fighting with ice or anything like that.
The car's coming.
Boop.
But then there's like a technical glitch in that they accidentally release a bunch of the portal guns,
all programmed for the same coordinates.
And so when too many ice engines go out at the same time, all the Somalis portals portal
into the exact same place at the exact same time all fused together like some Cronenberg.
Like a mega Saman.
And he comes back for revenge.
Or even worse as they go to Dearborn and they start zaping with the portal gun.
And then they're like, oh, it didn't work.
because they look around they're just like oh well i guess it didn't work this
if they all combined together i just imagine them like walking back to the to the united
states like it's like godzilla under the sea just coming here to smash us for sending them back
yeah they'll be mad they would be upset they're like how we can't get your money anymore i would be
pissed if i got fused in with everybody else like that did i be mad yeah i would not be happy i would i would
I would picket the UN.
That's what I would appeal to international law.
They would go to New York.
They would be smashing things in New York.
That's what Godzilla would do if you were here now.
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All right, let's get your rumble rants and super chats.
Let's see we got.
All right, we got DeWind.
DeWinday says,
Chet, every call to violence you make here will be used against you.
Indeed.
True.
Force name change says, I would advise Walt.
Hey, Tampon Tim, Texas National Guard, New England National Guard,
Minnesota National Guard.
They're all National Guard.
The state name denotes location, not allegiance.
All right.
Malababy says, that's why copy and paste your favorite Bible quotes instead of
talk-ish because they will use what you say against you.
Whoever hates me hates my father as well.
All right.
Force names, he says, I'll make a bet on who that family member is.
I'll put $100 down to say that it was her 15-year-old daughter
from her first husband that told her stepmother that it's her fault.
Her mom's gone.
It was apparently her mother.
Yeah.
He lost the bet.
All right.
Let's see.
Graham Gaming says they delayed the gunshots in that New York Times video.
too. Did they really? It does seem like it. It seemed like they sped up a part of it too.
They definitely sped up a part of it. Well, they're dishonest acts. Yep.
Can't expect honesty from the New York Times. They have an agenda.
All right. David Flores says, Tim, please stop giving her so much credit. No one shoots to maim.
Likewise, no one drives another human with the intent to maim. She might not have thought he'd die,
but she didn't care either. Literally what I said is, I don't think her intention was kill.
She just didn't care if she killed while she was fleeing.
Coppo Suith says Trump resigns February 1st, 2027.
Vance can finish the term and serve two more, enters 2028 with a record.
I mean, I don't see that happening.
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's...
Even if they, even if, like, that's just not in Donald Trump's...
Like, that's not in his character.
Indeed.
All right.
Omega Resetsu says, Phil doesn't understand what third world actually means.
First world means NATO.
Second world was Warsaw Pack.
But now it's Brick.
Third world meant not NATO, not communist.
Fourth world is a client state.
Yeah, I mean, people, it's like, yeah, but now third world.
This means impoverished.
Yeah, and the Zite guy just means like, like Brown.
Broadly, I mean, it's not wrong.
Or people is what it means.
Yeah.
Flex the JuVat says, I'm a pilot in USAF.
Our bus driver's daughter needs serious medical care.
Lost my five-year-old daughter and don't want the same for him.
Give send go slash Roberto.
even a share will help.
Hi, Phil.
Hi, we'll share that.
Sorry to hear him, man.
That's horrible.
I hope everybody can do what they can.
Tweet it at me and I'll retweet it and stuff.
Jay Hamblin says,
Tim, isn't that what Andrew Wilson was arguing with you about?
His point was rights are only what you can enforce.
Yet no.
My opinion on Andrew Wilson was that he was arguing for the sake of arguing.
Because my argument is that rights are derived from God's will.
the things that you must do to be fruitful and multiply.
He argued that that's true, but not like, here's the issue with the debate we had.
He said, rights come from God.
And I said, effectively, yes, rights are what we must do to fulfill God's will.
And then he said, no.
And so I was like, what?
And yeah.
So when I tried explaining that there is a logic to God's will, because God is the logos,
he disagreed and then argued with me that there's an island full of,
pedophiles that get away with it and how is anything they're doing beneficial to God's will or
whatever and I was like the presumption of that argument is that it is possible for a society of
pedophiles to succeed and fulfill God's will which clearly everyone agrees is not correct.
So I think he was just arguing for the sake of arguing.
My point is what are rights as we view them?
The left argues that health care is a human right.
Well, that can't be true because that would require to enslave somebody.
have a right to enslave somebody because that person then can't fulfill God's will. But if your goal
is to be fruitful and multiply, you have to be able to defend yourself. You have to be able to communicate
with other people for the betterment and success, either through warnings or cooperation.
And you have to have freedom of movement. We also have to have the ability to stop people who are
evil. These are core functions that we view in our society, our enlightened society as being
rights, things that you are inherently needing to do or able to do. And why? Because if you can't,
you can't fulfill God's will. Anyway, I think he disagrees with that. I think his argument is,
it's not about whether you can or can't fulfill God's will, just that it is God's will,
which I think is a distinction with no difference. Token Magus says, I don't understand this
argument, go to a state that aligns with you while Gen Z can't afford a home, but yeah, we can't
afford to pack up and leave. Well, Trump's move on institutional investors.
and houses are going to crush the housing market.
Yeah, that's a big deal.
You're going to buy up a bungalow for 50 bucks now.
And apparently there's like, when Trump made the announcement, people found a bunch of
insiders at Blackstone and other companies were selling off shares.
I don't know if that's true.
That's the rumor.
Yep.
There's a lot of stuff that actually came out today.
It was really good for the economy.
What's good.
Oh, it's just what's really funny is the people who made bets on Maduro's capture right
before he got captured.
How do they know?
Oh.
Yeah.
They're sousaires.
Well, I'll say this.
The housing price thing Trump's doing is going to piss boomers off.
All their wealth is going to evaporate overnight.
Their equities and their property.
However, it means Gen Z might be able to afford a house.
Yeah.
It's the right thing to do.
Agreed.
Mikey says, created a post that simply said, comply, sue later, if you feel your rights are violated.
All leftists on my friend's list called me a bootlicker for supposedly
defending ICE with that statement.
Yep.
Their leftists and they're idiots.
So true.
Well, I think the bigger thing is the conservatives who are defending this woman.
Conservatives coming out and being like, wow, I can't believe the cop would shoot her.
It's like, oh boy, this is why the right loses.
Because when George Floyd happens, everyone on the right agrees at the left.
All right, that one gamer says about the Greenland situation.
We should show the polls showing majority wanting independence, make facts unavoidable to
American voters and lefties.
you guys saw that Greenland and Denmark are fighting.
Yeah.
Greenland called Denmark neocolonialists for excluding them from the conversation over joining the United States.
Greenland government is saying you can't tell us what to do and has decided to violate the charter they have with Denmark to have private meetings with the United States to negotiate acquisition.
I always thought this was going to be, I thought it was going to be a meme, but honestly now I'm probably 50-50 as to whether or not I'm part of the U.S.
I'm the biggest Greenland Hawk probably in the United States.
Like I think that is rightfully our territory.
But one hesitation I have is I don't know if we should amplify like leftist anti-colonial sentiment in Greenland because that's just going to cause us problems down the road with the people.
The best case scenario is we annexed Greenland.
There's like 80,000 people there and we just flood it with Texans like oil barons.
And then they will just like outpopulate Greenland and turn into a red state.
They should just be made of territory.
They shouldn't be a state.
As soon as Donald Trump started talking about the Monroe Doctrine, I'm like, you know what, Greenland's in the West.
I mean, Denmark's not in the West.
That's our constitutional shelf.
So as soon as I happen, I'm like, I see where he's going with this.
Look, I mean, the fact that the U.S. had to protect Greenland during World War II because the Nazis took Denmark, right?
Like, that alone is like, it makes me think, well, you know, if you can't protect it, is it really yours?
Yeah, and also the Danish, like, I know Danish people personally.
They, like, forget about Greenland quite.
It's not in, like, it's not in the top of their, it's 56,000 people.
Yeah, it's not of the forefront of their minds.
And then also the king of Denmark didn't add greenland.
to his official seal until like three years ago.
Well, really?
It actually became a conversation.
See, it's ours.
So for the Danish, they were like, oh, yeah, we own that because of the Vikings had all the work.
We'll just say it.
We have a comment from Cage says, Tim, you were arguing rights, but Andrew rejects the notion.
God gives us duties and free will not rights.
Rights as we know them are entitlements absent duty that only function with force backing.
That is an opinion on how you view rights.
So I will describe it like this.
I agree.
God gives us a duty.
Okay.
Do you need to perform certain actions to fulfill the duties God has bestowed upon you?
Anybody?
I would assume so.
Well, can you be fruitful and multiply if you have no ability to eat?
No, that's, no, you have to do.
So, do I have an inherent right to eat food?
I mean, no.
You grow on your own.
Or acquire on my own?
Yeah, indeed.
It's yours, yeah.
Do we believe those that believe in God's will?
like, do I have the right to stop you from doing your duty to God? No, I don't. However, you who must
fulfill your duty to God must be able to perform certain actions to fulfill your duty to God.
Now, it's entirely true that people infringe upon rights every single day, but the idea that
rights don't exist would mean, God has created a world by which you have a duty to him, but other people
are allowed to stop you from doing it. They're allowed to do it. Like, it is a just thing that God expects
that someone will decide you must not be allowed to fulfill your duty.
God. That makes no sense. Is that, is that like like when countries are at war and they're
preventing people from getting food like in that regard? The idea is this, be fruitful and
multiply, the simplest of the duties you have before God. Is it, is it a sin to stop someone from
following God's will? Is it wrong? Yes, it is. Hands down. Okay. That would imply that God has
given us moral entitlement to perform certain actions to fulfill our duty to him. If we were not
entitled by God to do these things, it would be impossible for us to fulfill our duties to him.
So speaking to one another, defending ourselves from aggression, freedom of movement.
If you are locked down and someone's beating you, you will not multiply. You will not be fruitful
and you will not proselytize the word of God. So God bestows upon you certain things you must be able to
do that we recognize we cannot stop someone else from doing. That's why we have rights. That's why
we perceive rights. It's strange to be like, nope, because entitlements are absent duty. Will you have
free will? Whether or not you fulfill God's duty is your free will, but you have to be able to
perform certain tasks to do it. If there were no rights, then nobody would ever do it.
