Timcast IRL - Adam Johnson Lectern Guy Uncensored: George Floyd 2.0 Just Happened In Ohio, Black Man Says I Cant Breathe, Dies In Police Custody On Camera

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

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Now, enjoy the show. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. We got the story from NBC News. I think this is just breaking as of 6 44 p.m the video is starting to go viral it is a body camera footage showing a handcuffed man telling ohio officers i can't breathe before his death whoa what's going on and uh let's see if that so here's the body camera footage of frank tyson april 18th they just released the body camera footage and uh you know i think i'm gonna have to pull it up on Twitter.

And we'll actually check the footage out. This is just the news story. And I don't much care for NBC news. So let's see if we can get that old x.com slash Timcast over here. And we got that. So let's pull it up. And here's the video. Nine millimeter SMG reposted it here you go They're trying to kill me. They're trying to kill me. Call the sheriff. They're trying to kill me. Call the sheriff.

They're trying to help me. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. They're trying to kill me. Call the sheriff. They're trying to kill me. Call the sheriff.

Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff.

Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Call the sheriff. Don't spray. Call the sheriff. There's right down there. Get off me. Calm down. Calm down. Not good.

No. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. you're fine holy shit i'm gonna play it one more time just for everybody because uh people are still jumping in so it's only a minute long No, no, we're going outside. We're going outside. No, you ain't killing me. You ain't killing me tonight. You ain't killing me. You ain't killing me. You ain't killing me. You ain't killing me. Yeah, no, let's, let's, I gotta say, there's already a problem with this.

I've been involved in way too many bullshits with cops. This is going to cause, this is going to, this is going to spark some shit. They didn't even try to talk to him at first. Like, it immediately. Let's get him out of here now. I ain't going try to talk to him at first. Like, it immediately... He did push the chair at him, but still. They did ask him to go outside. And it seems like the bar has been trying to get him to leave. There's going to be a bunch of videos

where they show the cop being like, Sir, look, please, the owner says they don't want you to be here. You will be trespassed. They're going to show the Google employees where the cops are like, Are you refusing to leave? Okay, you'll be placed under arrest. They're going to kill me. They're going to kill me.

The dude's saying, Call the sheriff. They're going to kill me. Oh, dude, this is George Floyd 2.0. But here's the question. Is the left distracted by Israel? I think Soros has enough money to fund two campaigns at the same time. So the question is,

things we have to find out. Why did they want him to leave? What if it turns out that he ordered a steak and eggs? I think he's at looks like a diner of some sort, right? Or a bar. Looks like a bar to me. Let's say he goes, you know, hey, I'll have onion rings and a

12-piece chicken wing with barbecue sauce. Why does it got to be chicken wings? Because it's at a bar. Okay. And that's what I order at a bar. And then what if they come out and they give him eight? And he goes, excuse me, I paid for 12 wings.

This is eight. And they go, no, you paid for eight. He's like, I have a receipt. And then they get into a fight with him. He's like, give me my money back. He's like, no. I'm just saying, what if the reason he's refusing to leave is because they did something to him the assumption of course from a lot of people is going to be that i bet a lot of people on the right are going to

say he's agitated he flicks the chair at the cops he's fighting with them then we're going to find something out from the left where it's like he he he gave five bucks to the bartender and she kept it and he said what are you doing give me money back. And there's a report saying that he fleed from the scene of a car crash. Oh, wow. And then he was at the bar and then he was taken into custody. Yeah. Do we have a picture from him? That seems kind of weird, though, because can you please get him out of here?

I mean, if he was already intoxicated, that's why he was in the car crash, showed up to the bar and they're like, he's acting erratically because he's at this point, adrenaline rushing. He's also intoxicated and then leaving. In the end, it doesn't matter because George Floyd was chewing on a speedball behind the wheel of a car and they still didn't give a shit. No, for sure. I'm just saying like that seems to be the context in which he's at the bar.

So a man in a white van whose face is blurred drives by and tells police that the man responsible is at, okay, so here you go, in a 36 minute video, police respond to the scene of a single car crash to find a downed power pole in an unoccupied vehicle with the driver's side door open and an airbag deployed. What if it turns out he wasn't drunk, he was having a diabetic crash? Maybe. They said that there's a...

Apparently they deployed several doses of Narcan before paramedics got there. So he was on heroin, too? I don't know. I mean, if he was unresponsive, that might have been their assumption because just some parts of the country.

Yeah. That's the default medical emergency. The only thing that matters is if anyone's going to read anything past the headline. Yep. Yep. And or the video and the snippet video is out where he's like, call the sheriff. They're going to kill me. They're trying to kill me.

And then he died. And they're going to say they kneel on his neck. You can see it on the camera they killed him these cops oh boy officers you're going to prison for the rest of your lives you can also hear that woman he's like call the sheriff she's like they are the sheriffs so like oh really yeah that's enough they're going to prison bro these cops are going to jail right now it looks like um well that's the move right and the mayor released a statement saying you know sending condolences families but then also saying like i i have full faith in the leadership of chief uh john gabbard who i assume is the police chief as we navigate these waters

uh it's like these are always difficult and challenging for a community what town is this what city is this in it's canton ohio i'll tell you what's going to happen canton's pretty large there's a lot of people there already really the The mayor is going to go to the chief of police or the sheriff or whatever, and there's going to be a DA and there's going to be a local member of Congress or something, and they're going to go, listen, this is going to get big and it's going to get bad and it's going to get bad fast. These cops need to be charged tomorrow, first thing, for first degree murder, put in shackles and never see the light of day again.

And then someone's going to be like, I'm not going to do that to my officers. These guys didn't do anything wrong. This was a guy. And they're going to say, these two guys can go to prison or you can have $1 billion in damages in not just this town but across the country. Lock them up. And he's going to go, you're right. These innocent men will rot in prison for the rest of our lives because it's for the greater good.

There you go. Welcome to the modern state of America. I mean, it's just going to, we're going to have to see how fast this story spreads, if anything. You were saying before the show, someone was saying, this is how we distract from the Palestine conflict. Oh, right. Like the deep state, the deep state is like, quick, they're obsessed with Israel, kill

a black guy. I mean, that would be horrible. The reality is they don't say kill a black guy. They say, quick, find us body camera footage of cops killing a black guy. Right. Because there was, I mean, I can't remember his name, unfortunately, but there was another black man who died in police custody. You know, I think at this point, four months ago, either early this year, end of last year. And I saw a couple like this is the next Floyd, but no one really talked about it. You know, it is something that does happen on occasion in America, you know, for complicated circumstances. But it seems like right now, this one, the danger is that there's already sort of a furor among young progressive

activists and they're already sort of looking for something to do. Plus, I think people are just more apt to be out and about in the summer it doesn't matter if people are talking about it matters if it's funded that's that's what we have to wait for if they think they can get behind this and they can get people to show up and protest again can't already has people in it you don't got to bust a lot of people in you get a few people to start protesting doesn't cost a lot of money see if it clicks yeah if it clicks throw more money into it would be interesting to see if like people on twitter can go find like if there's a local blm chapter or just any sort of local organizations that's already commenting on this i think that's the best way to take the temperature of what's going on in the town the statement from the mayor

you know just having skimmed it right now really does make it look like he's trying to say like this is the loss of life so it's sad but we're not trying to jump ahead of anything we're all going to work together he's trying to really neutralize that never works they they they releasing the body camera footage is going to ignite this it's the same thing with uh ahmed arbory if that guy never gave the if he never filmed it they wouldn't be in prison it's like as as soon as the public learns of something they just shit on the floor they just fucking lose their minds yeah this is why you've got a bunch of government officials being like can we get rid of social media and censor everybody? Because if the public just doesn't know, they shut the fuck up.

Yeah. I mean, it's one of the dangers with social media, though, which is that the misinformation or the rate at which news travels does not work for having detailed reports, right? You get the headline. You get maybe the sub-headline. You get an image, and that's it. And And basically whatever you put at the top third of the argument article could indicate the entire direction anyone takes, even if the bottom two thirds are you

saying, and that's why all of these positions are incorrect. Or that's why this other side has this very compelling argument. Like it's that top part, you know, the old school newspaper term is above the fold, whatever's above the fold is what people read. I'm going to play some audio for you guys. You ready? Maybe. What are you going to play? Only me.

You know, I seriously don't understand why I have to constantly put up with these dumbasses here every day. Between these ungrateful black kids who can't test their way out of a paper bag or these teachers who don't get it. How hard is it to get these students to meet their grade level expectations? Lawrence and Ravenel should have never been hired. And don't let me get started on DJ. I'm going to drag his black

ass out of here one way or another. I'm going to get something to stick. I'm just so sick of the inadequacies of these people. And if I have to get one more complaint from one more Jew in this community, I'm going to join the other side. Kathy, I'm done. So listen to this real quick. I'm going to point this out. So for those that understand, this is AI audio. It is believed to be a black man at the school has been arrested for creating the the audio to frame

the principal as a racist. Listen to this real quick. Dumbasses here every day. So listen to how he says paper bag and then listen to how he says the next sentence. These ungrateful black kids who can't test their way out of a paper bag or these teachers who don't get it. How hard is it to get these students to meet their grade level expectations? OK, now remember how he said test the right of paper bag. Now listen to this. Lawrence and Ravenel should have never been hired.

He said in the exact same way. Clearly, it's AI. And also, no one talks like that. The lectern guy is sitting here drinking a bottle of water. Definitely water. Oh, you got a bottle of water. My point is like, nobody talks in there. There's intonation and inflection.

So when you're ending a sentence, you have a definitive end. And then there are people who talk with an upward inflection. So it sounds like they're asking a question all the time. Even when you do that, you can tell it's a person doing it. It's a thing people do. But imagine if I talked like this. And every sentence ended with something like this. And then I said, we're going to read a news story about a guy who made AI.

You'd be like, okay, what is this? It's like, it's the same thing every time. So this guy's being criminally charged. Here's the thing. I don't think you can criminally charge someone for this. That's what I was going to say. I mean, it's just art, isn't it? uh so so what if i made he he posted this i guess it says y'all this is my principal a white man the teachers he's mentioning are black what if i made a video it said y'all this is my president a white man the

people he's mentioning are black and then i recorded myself going i'm donald trump i'm the greatest president and uh you, I like fried chicken. It's very good. That's not illegal at all. I'm doing an impersonation. It's parody. It's parody, right? So he could just be like, why am I being arrested for this?

I was making fun of the guy. I think he's a racist. And so I was like, my joke was, this is what he thinks to himself. It's interesting because I was looking at the charges, theft, disrupting school activities, stalking, and retaliating against a witness, it's like they can't put a defamation charge on there, right? Or they can't put some sort of form of attack. But what the principal must have experienced

would have been pretty severe, right? Especially if this is completely fake and all of the students are like, you said what now? Like, hopefully they all believe it's AI. And if they don't, then this guy can't continue to work in this district. Like you have really ruined this guy's life. Yes. But I mean, comedians have made a living off of doing impressions for a very long time. At the end of it, the guy's maybe not great in impressions, but he can use AI. That's a tool, right? And is he actually doing anything wrong? I don't know. I don't think

so. It's art. It's expression. He's mad at this guy. He's put together something using a tool. Why is it wrong? See, I think it is wrong, though, because he's passing it off as being legitimate. And I think that it is a misrepresentation of what this person said, right? Like, it would be as if you you, like if a newspaper misquotes you, you can ask for a correction. In this case, like it's completely fake and it's almost worse because the internet functions like the wild west.

Yes. So there's no way to call it back in. I don't know if we have like the legal languages for which to pursue this, but obviously like we all can, we know this is not the right way to retaliate. Especially like this guy was facing some sort of like disciplinary actions for not being, you know, good at his job. It's obviously coming from

a place of retaliation. The guy should lose his job at minimum, right? The guy who made a such loose job, it's unprofessional at minimum, but arresting people for making, again, this is, this is art. This is speech. This is, it's just, it's a brave new world. And then where does that line stop? Do we just never use AI? You can't use it because every, everything you're putting out is someone else, right? It's someone else's ideas. It's someone like, where do we does that line stop do we just never use ai you can't use it because every everything you're putting out is someone else right it's someone else's ideas it's someone where do we draw that line i mean again in this case like i think it would cross into the defamation territory right it it's beyond it's not like he's making this and saying like this is my impression of what the what the principal said he's passing it off as this is what he legitimately said in a way that is disruptive to the community so i like again i don't know that

we have the the legal standards to pursue it but i think it would be something that like people should take seriously i hate ai i think it's just a box of chaos right and so this is one of one of the things like nobody said these statements, as it turns out. On the other hand, you have a school community that is now going to be in turmoil because the principal is a rumored racist. Which, again, that just harms all of the students in the community. I mean, maybe this— I have no idea what he said, but I used the voice generator thing to make it. So what did he say?

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend. Wow, this is crazy. So Jordan Peterson had this statement. Buddy of mine, Memer, makes this video, and the video is pretty convincing enough so that where Jordan Peterson gets tricked by it, right? And he says, this should be a crime. This person should be arrested for doing what he's doing. It's a meme, right? And he says, this should be a crime. This person should be arrested for doing what he's doing. It's a meme, right? And it's fine if we're laughing at it, but you're talking about a territory where it crosses into, it's causing actual people to have actual loss. Right. I mean,

in some ways, this reminds me of like a form of identity theft, right? And you can get in trouble for like false advertising from a representation. Again, I'm not sure that I would know. I did not go to law school. I am not a lawyer. I only pretend to be one on the internet sometimes. But the invasion of privacy and the misrepresentation of the person, like I think that is something that we should come out inside of wanting to defend, right?

You shouldn't be able to be like, well, the AI is here. So anyone could just take your voice and make it art, especially in the sense that this guy is not presenting it as art. He's presenting it as like here is an audio recording. Peterson taught me everything I know, and I learned that I know nothing. Truly such a wise man.

Some say nearly as wise as Andrew Tate. See how like his sentences end in weird ways. Yeah, it's like it's not natural cadence. What do we make it say? Sentences end in weird ways. Yeah. It's like it's very obvious. It's not a natural cadence. What should we make it say? Who is they? Who is they though? This guy sounds like he is about to narrate a National Geographic.

Oh, yeah. Who is they though? He has to give a description of like like, people at the Capitol in January. Callum! If you look here. Somewhere between Anthony Hopkins and David Attenborough.

Yeah. So, what's your take on AI? You trust it? You're excited that it's amongst us? Oh, man. Well, it depends on if it's used against me or not.

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they are like, it's better than yours. Consider what happened. It's like a super serious documentary. So Taylor Swift had a bunch of AI porn made of her, right? Yeah. This was the thing, and Congress was having conversations about it. This is America's sweetheart.

Oh, it's going by itself. I can't stop it. There was a streamer, too, who had AI. My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they are like it's better than yours this is a creepy now like that's a that's a creepy one there's also that ai that you can talk to in real time we did this in the show where we tried we like we you talk and then it just instantly talks back that's got the voice of like don't feed the ai come on we know better than this i don't know.

I think that it's, I think there are a lot of opportunities to use AI in positive ways. But as with all technology, it's always used for evil though, isn't it? Right? So why even start, you know? Let's just get back to it. Just put that back in the box. Cement it shut. Leave it there. Well, the problem is it has to be erased to get it because no other country is going to stop.

China is going to keep developing. Yeah. Right. Everyone's going to keep developing AI. So we have to have the race towards it. We have to. Whoever owns it. I mean, that's it.

It's going to start swaying elections very soon. Black Mirror, the first episode, first season. And stuff like this case. Rendering. With the principal is going to start happening so quickly that unless there are effective ways to say it. I was walking down the street in Chicago when two large black Trump supporters threw a noose around my neck and yelled, this is MAGA country, before splashing me with bleach they had put in a hot sauce bottle.

I think this really happened to this guy. He sounds convincing. He sounds like he's from South Africa. Does he? No, he sounds like an Englishman. He sounds like Attenborough. He doesn't sound like a South African, I wouldn't say, personally. He's from South Africa, so we give him credit for this.

I mean, I know that AI and all technology is something that you have to contend with it's just my uh luddite self is like why you guys are making everything worse there's i just think technology is so often misused and abused to be like and now we're gonna let it just become sort of something that learns intentionally to mimic us that seems terrible put that far away from me back Back in the bottle. It really does. Hey, lectern guy, I'm a big fan of yours. Oh, thanks, you.

I like this one. It's Jordan Peterson. Yeah. You just like it because he's complimenting you. We have Jordan Peterson. We have Tucker Carlson. Hey, lectern guy, I'm a big fan of yours. I'm feeling good about this episode.

Yeah. Well, good. No, it's good. I don't know. It's going to happen whether we want it to or not. I mean, that's just the progression of technology. It's just going to keep coming. I'm going to run to the hills.

I'm just going to leave it all behind. Well, I mean, I guess the question you're asking is how do we get ahead of it then? Because if this is where we're heading, if Taylor Swift porn is where we're heading, how do we get ahead of it? Do we pre-legislate before the crime is committed? I mean, it's hard to say, right? I think so much of the way our laws work right now do follow technology. Technology is evolving so rapidly that we can't really keep up uh on the other hand we can all see that this would be a bad thing right if anybody used like

interpretive or mimicking technology to mimic you and therefore make it you know like think of all the people who get canceled over stuff that like comes out later never happened or whatever else like in this case it's gonna be even harder because it'll be like, but I heard that clip of him saying that thing. Lectern guy said very nasty things in this one recording or, you know, whatever. I think it's going to make proving these things quickly so much more difficult. And I think that we do want to be proactively thinking

about ways that we deter people from, like the thing about the Maryland High School story is that the guy is acting out of vengeance, right? He is in trouble at his job. He's not doing well. And so he's like, I'm going to make this guy racist so I can ruin his life. And, like, that's not the instinct we want to just be like, ah, but you can't stop it because they used AI and it's on the Internet. So we don't have any laws there. We don't have any ways to deter it.

In today's news, the lectern guy, perhaps the smartest man with the best hair. He recently stood up to the middling hair of Scott Pressler, proving that he had the greatest hair and none could challenge him and his intelligence. Yeah, I'm definitely sending that clip to Scott. When are you and Scott launching your hair care line? This is what I want to know. Well, he and I and, oh my lord, I can't think of his name. He was here. He got one of your shows taken off the air. Was his hair good?

Oh, he had great hair. It's gone. It's gone. I love this guy. We should go to our callers. Indeed, we shall. Let's start out with Overlord. That sounds funny.

Overlord, how are you doing? Hello. Hey, how's it going? I'm doing great. I've been watching Tim since the subway attacks in London. Wow. And I gotta say, it's impressive to see how big

you've grown. Studio number five. Are you referring to my physical training? Because I've been lifting weights. Yeah, look at that. Yes. Excellent. Definitely.

How do we know this is not AI? I have a question for Tim and the potato man. Potato man abandoned us. Yeah, he keeps leaving. Right. So who knows? He keeps leaving. Send him hate on Twitter about it.

Yeah, please do. He actually said I can answer for him out there. Oh, okay, good. Oh, you can still ask it. Yeah, that definitely happens. We'll answer on his behalf. I think I'm Norwegian. Good enough.

Close. All right, what's your question? So, if you truly believe what you think is, firstly, true and correct and secondly would save or at least radically change someone's life how do you go about sharing your beliefs in a way that is helpful without being overbearing when it doesn't come up naturally and when people are increasingly being unwilling to have their own beliefs challenged i wouldn't i would uh tell them and if they said no, I'd say, okay, and then I'd go about my business. I would say, I always start with listening. If you understand what someone's position is, where they're coming from, one of two things will happen.

Either one, you will develop empathy for them, and empathy is never a bad thing. Or two, their functional retards and their opinion is horrible, and at the end of it, you're going to realize, yeah, this person's not being able to be saved. Got it. I would say, have you considered whether's not being able to be saved. Got it. I would say, have you considered whether or not abortion is right for you? We did this last time. My attitude is, you know, if you want to make someone, if you think you know what will make someone's life better, there's two ways you can go about it. No, there's three really, but there's two acceptable ways. One is, well, let's put it this way. There's the black, gray, and the white. The evil, which is beat them until they do it. The gray, which is manipulate them, which no one

really know you're doing as long as you don't tell anybody and it's fine so long as no one knows you're manipulative. Or tell them politely and hope they do. I am of the tell them politely and hope they do. And if they don't want to, I say, okay, well, whatever. That's it. You could always try, which is passively acceptable in that no one will know you're doing it, and manipulate them emotionally and using manipulation techniques that are widely available on the internet to learn. And then, of course, there is the not socially acceptable at all, which you'd probably go to jail for is if you tried to force them with like a weapon or something or threats of violence or extortion. Yeah, that's not going to work. But I just think Democrats are primarily composed of people who are stupid and just do whatever they're told. And the people who think they're

smarter and should dictate what people do. And the right is primarily composed of people saying, you know, you really shouldn't stick your fork in that electric socket. And they go, I'm gonna do it anyway. You go, okay, well, I warned you. You know, the right is very much like what you do what you want. I'm going to stay back. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Anything else out of that, man? Uh, one quick thing. How would you go about trying to change someone's mind if they don't have an open one? Would you just not try at all? Yeah, I wouldn't try at all. I'd leave them to their own devices. If direct communication doesn't work, then there's no point.

I mean, if a person is not—if they do not have the cognitive capabilities to understand these things, then why try to convince them? It's like, I can teach a dog how to do a backflip. You know, it's like if you can do a bunch of different things to train a dog, but I'm not going to try and teach a dog about the complexities of like deontological moral philosophy. So if I want the dog to sit, then I teach him to sit. If there's a person who's too stupid to understand moral philosophies, there's no point in trying to convince them of something they don't understand and can't do. You know, I think it depends on what you're trying to convince them of. Like if it's like a lifestyle thing, you have someone who is like, no, I won't stop drinking soda every day. Right. Like you maybe can't just go to their house

and pour all the sodas they'll just buy more but you can continuously talk about the fact that like you have made a healthy change and it's working for you so you know it really depends on the subject but i think part of it is just like not being afraid to be like well i don't agree with your position or i live my life this way or whatever it is. Like you don't have to convince them by trying to engage them in an argument. You can just be there as an example of an alternative way of being or thinking. You can manipulate their emotions if you're interested. And my favorite example is, it's a rudimentary manipulation technique called rapport extreme turn, which I've described in the

show in numerous occasions. And it's actually really simple. I'll give you an example. So let's say I love using Obama. Let's say you're a big Obama supporter, old lectern guy over here. And I know that Obama's not a good guy. And you can like some things he does fine, whatever. Not everybody is absolute in there. Well, some people are absolutely evil, but some people are just generally bad. So what you want to do first is rapport. If I approach a Obama supporter or, you know, let's do Trump. Let's let's let's do Trump. So rapport, extreme turn Trump supporter over here. And I'm like, I want to break this guy out of the Trump mold. Well, the one thing you can't do is you can't push someone beyond their reasonable boundaries. So everyone's got a degree of movement they can go on an emotional or a perspective spectrum. Meaning if a person meets a stranger, they are leaning towards like.

That's a fact. So let's say the scale of negative 100 to positive 100. Zero would be I'm completely neutral on this person. People meeting strangers actually lean slightly towards like on most people. Maybe I would say 10. And this is easily proven by the fact that like if someone falls, people will run up to help them. Not everybody is this way. Some people are assholes and are evil and hate you.

And they're at minus 100 and they'll murder you. Minus 100 is murder. Plus 100 is marry. Most people are going to be at like five or 10 to a stranger. That means their reasonable boundaries are going to be negative 10 and positive 10. You meet, you take a random person and you say, marry them. And they'll go, what are you fucking nuts? Murder them. They're going to say, what are you fucking nuts? They will not move beyond what's called a reasonable boundary in their, in their psyche. However, you can't inch them in a direction.

So you meet a stranger and you go, that guy just called you insert slur. Now they go down to negative five. And they're like, they did. And like, yeah, I don't know why that was really weird. You didn't hear that. And they'll go, no, that's weird. I'll be like, a guy must be a dick. Anyway, whatever. Nice meeting you. And you leave. Now they have a slightly negative view of this person. If you inch someone's reasonable boundaries slowly over time, you can get to the point of wanting to commit murder. And that's how crazy it is. Or to marrying someone. A marriage is a little bit more difficult because that involves like romantic love,

but loving someone and deeply caring about them and being friends with them. So understanding that rapport extreme turn is a very simple technique in manipulation where first, you cannot ever convince someone. I shouldn't say ever, but typically you can't convince someone of something by being their enemy. If I go to a Trump supporter and I say, you're a Trump supporter, well, I'm a, I'm a Biden supporter. You are now enemies, which means emotional barriers have been engaged. The person then instantly activates a bunch of preconceived notions about you. And they're going to utilize those assumptions and determining whether they can trust you or

believe you. And now if you say something like, look, I trust, I'm a Biden supporter. I think, you know, I'm not a fan of Trump and Trump did X. They're immediately going to say, you're a liar. Biden supporters are always lying. The media is always lying. Don't do it. Rapport. Trump supporter, MAGA 2024. I'm voting for Trump. I wouldn't vote for anybody else. What do you do? Vote for Biden? Barriers are down. Trump supporter meets a Trump supporter. You then build rapport a little bit. Ah, yes, Trump is good. The next thing you do is extreme. You offer up something that a reasonable person cannot agree with. It goes outside of their reasonable boundaries, such as, you know, I got to be honest. You know what I really like about what Donald Trump did?

It was the drone strikes. You know, he increased them. He was blown up. So many of these people, and you can get as crazy as you want with it. You can be like, Obama was weak. He didn't do what needed to be done. And Donald Trump said, crank up those drone strikes and blow them the fuck up. The average person is going to be like, okay, like, I'm actually not a fan of that.

I don't like that he did that. Once the other person challenges you, you've made yourself the most ardent Trump supporter willing to defend the worst things he's done. You then say, I like that Trump did this bad thing. They don't distrust you because you're a Trump supporter. They say they probably heard something about that, but they'll say, I actually disagree with that. That was one of the bad things that Trump did.

And then you go, well, well, okay. I mean, fine. He's not perfect, but I still think overall he did a pretty good job. That's rapport extreme turn. You make the other person challenge you instead of you challenging them. And that inches them in their reasonable boundaries towards Trump has done a bad thing. I acknowledge he did a bad thing. You can read more in depth about how these techniques work. One example is how the Chinese, when they would capture US troops, they would say things like, I will give you food, but you first need to say one bad thing about America that's true. And they'd be like, what do you mean? Like, America's not perfect, right? And they would say, right, America's not perfect. Good. Here's your meal. They would get them to

say something like that every single day until finally, after a few months, they'd say, right, America's not perfect. Good. Here's your meal. They would get them to say something like that every single day until finally, after a few months, they'd say, write me one paper about the things that you don't like about America. And they'd say, OK. And they'd say the poverty and blah, blah, blah. And then they'd say, look what these troops are writing. So that's how you do it. Anyway, thanks for calling in.

This is the FBI. Just give them a nudge. This is Governor Whitmer, right? These people normally would not be doing these things, but they're giving nudges. Yeah. So the rapport extreme turn technique can be used on anything. Abortion. You go to someone who's pro-life.

And if you go to someone who's pro-choice and you say, I think abortion should not be used as contraception. I think these things. They're going to say, OK, you're a right wing nut job. I don't trust you. Then when you say, look, my problem with Democrats is abortion at the point of birth, they go, you are fucking lying. That's not true. You wing nuts. So you don't do it. What you do is you say, it doesn't work if you're a public figure, obviously, and have public positions. But if you approach someone who's pro-choice,

and they say, well, I'm pro-choice, you go, oh, yeah, me too. Totally. These right wing nut jobs are fucking lunatics. I mean, it's not their choice. It's not their body. Women have a right. And they go, oh yeah, I totally agree. And then you say, and we just had that huge victory in Colorado where now women, they can talk to their doctor and maybe, look, I know maybe at nine months they decide to terminate the baby, but it's a good thing. If the woman is giving birth and she finds out like, I don't know, her husband's cheating, then fucking kill the thing. What is she going to be? Is she going to be attached to this man?

No, fucking kill it now before it comes out and gasps its first breath of air. And they're going to go, are you fucking nuts? They're going to say, that's crazy. They're doing that. And you're going to say, yeah, you're not like some pro-lifer, are you? We should be allowed to get abortions whenever we want. And then they'll go, well, I wouldn't agree with that but she stands a lot more money to make child support money so she keeps it so but that's a better it's a business venture that's the general

the general concept so anyway we'll uh we'll move on to the next caller but uh overlord thanks for calling in you're having me cool thanks man you are muted there stink thanks man appreciate it alright next up we got indoctrinate how you doing hello hey how are you I'm good how are you guys well can't complain

thank you so much for taking my call my question is for the lectern guy you seem like you'd be really fun at parties. My question is, would you do it again? And how heavy was that podium? I get both of those questions a lot. I'll start with the weight of the podium.

I'd get 45, 50 pounds. Yeah, so not too much. It was more awkward than it was heavy. So there's that. And it was a lectern, not a podium. It was a lectern, yes. It was a lectern, not a podium. It was a lectern, yes. It was a lectern, not a podium. You didn't look like you were struggling with it.

You looked confident in your 20-foot stroll. I take care of myself. Jiu-jitsu and all those things, try to stay healthy. Would I do it again? I think that question changes from month to month and from experience to experience. I will say that it is on an upward trend of yes, because of what it's allowed me to do and what I've been able to do for other people. And then initially, you know, it's very much a woe is me,

I'm going through something terrible and this never should have happened. And then I see what happens to a lot of other people. They're getting these decades long sentences, they're ripped from their families. And what I'm able to do for them is to help them I actually I raise money I for for families who have people who are in prison I sell a little lectern that's not much but it's it is something and I think because of the modicum of infamy that I have I'm able

to do that and raise awareness yeah you turn something could be really negative into something positive for other people exactly and it's I don't know if if I'm given this responsibility if people are interested in continuing to listen to me then I'm to try to do the best I can to be a good steward of that responsibility and try to help people. So I think the answer today is yes, absolutely. Were you service minded like this before all of this happened? Like, has this always been how you lived your life? Or did it sort of become something you decided to do with the attention that was driven your way by everything? I think I've always been passionate about helping people and making sure they have what they need. This is, it's been a character thing. And I think it's actually very easy to prove as well. When there was, when everything first started happening, they went over and they interviewed all of my neighbors. They had, there were news stations everywhere. They tried to get anything they could on me, negative stories, right? This is what they were going for. Do you know how many

they found? None. Not a single neighbor would speak negatively about me. No one in my past came out and said, oh, he's this person. He's done this. He's done that. None of those stories come up. In court, what they had to use for my character to try to bring me down was a couple of speeding tickets.

That was actually brought up in court that I'm a menace because I've sped a couple of times. Well, you had to go help people. You were in a hurry. So you admit it. Oh, yes. Yes. And look, I did smoke pot when I was younger.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Jeff Bush, you take that back. I did. No, I was 18 years old. I did cop a charge. I did smoke pot. Adam, had I known that you were a dope user, I would never have invited you on this show. Dope.

I know. The joke in Chicago was to people who don't do drugs, dope is marijuana. And to people who smoke pot, dope is heroin. Yes, that is true. That is true. Well, you know, marijuana is killing millions of people every day. Yeah. Anything else to add to that, friend? No, she was gone.

Sorry. What was that? I didn't hear you. Anything else to add to that? Oh, no. Amen to that. Do it again. And I love what you're doing for all those people who are wrongfully still incarcerated. Keep going.

Thanks for calling in. I just want to add too, because I see a lot of people are asking where Ian is. And I think we just tell them, this is Ian. He's been trans the whole time. You take it back immediately. These people are going to expect me to know about graphene,

and I do not. Have you ever seen Ian and Hannah Clare in the same room at the same time? Yes. Didn't think so. Yes. On this show. This is slander. I will sue all of you for AI money. All you have to do is do your hair.

You know, run a brush through it. Well, I did start curling my hair more just because I got bored with it, and then the more I would do that, Ian would show up in a blue shirt, and I would be here in a blue shirt and be like, I think I'm stealing your look, but I'm not sure. I almost came dressed as Ian. I was this close. I was this close oh it was this

close yeah well somebody needs to wear a graphene shirt he's not here i did think shame i think it was seamus's joke he was like do you think if this show was in the 1950s he would be like plastics i think he would like there'd be something plastic yo it is crazy to be honest go to an antique store everything Everything's glass and metal. Plastics are fucking disgusting. I got this here Yerba, and I guarantee you it's lined with plastic. So shout out to Liquid Death. We like Liquid Death because it's a low sugar tea, and they're really good.

And they're like death to plastic, and aluminum cans are all lined with plastic. So if you, I don't know what you use, but you can actually etch the metal off with something. I think with soda even. I don't know. And then a paper bag is left. I mean, I'm sorry, a plastic bag. A plastic bag, yeah. Yeah, so the can is just the shape of plastic. I don't understand why they don't put it in glass or something.

I mean, I guess it's higher expensive or whatever else. But then that's the actual death to plastic because it doesn't have... I just resigned that something's going to kill me and I just don't care. Well, the plastics make you gay. Oh, is it? The biphenols or whatever they're called.

Your wife will hate that. I had sex twice today. With a woman. I was going to say, you didn't clarify. My wife. My wife. All right, next caller. Next caller.

All righty. It's your wife. How you doing? She's going to say, you didn't clarify. My wife. My wife. All right, next caller. Next caller. All righty. It's your wife. How you doing? She's going to hate that. I'm doing just fine. Great. So my question is actually based on the 1 p.m. segment yesterday for Tim. So, Tim, I feel that you missed quite a barn-sized target, or barn-door-sized target. Oh, barn-sized. I was like, oh. I thought it said barn-sized. I'm like, that's not barn size target or barn door size target.

Oh, bong size. I was like, oh, I thought it said bonsai. I'm like, that's not large. Well, which segment was that one? It was. I'm actually getting there. The state of New York claims that the criminality on the Trump trial falls on him aiming to minimize negative press during the election. Yeah. And that right. we have no further to look than the Hunter Biden laptop story. The Biden campaign colluded not only with media, but also big tech outlets to suppress the story

as it would negatively reflect Joe Biden. So if they dare to convict Trump on these grounds, how do we go about flipping this to Biden? That's not going to happen. You think it could be turned into any any any Republican in any state could do the same thing? They're not doing it. They need only just do it. Any prosecutor brag is a local prosecutor.

So insert jurisdiction. You can have the fucking prosecutor from the Dukes of Hazzard. Like, it doesn't matter. They could be in a town of 100 people. They could file the charges against Biden for exactly this and say, well, based on the legal precedent set by the New York case, which is ongoing, we determined, you know, wow, Joe Biden did this. So he's charged. Like, under what jurisdiction do they have for Trump in New York on this one? That he lived there?

Okay, well, Joe Biden, I'm sure he's got any kind of uh has he ever been in the state they didn't get married hold on he has a campaign office in every state boom he campaigned there you have jurisdiction done pretty sure got married the un chapel in new york which i always thought was super weird why would you get married there yeah so west virginia because biden campaigned there there you go joe biden has personal has personal presence in West Virginia and his campaign here. He colluded and suppressed negative information. Charge him. They won't do it, though.

No, it's not about it's just about finding a court that will take it, finding a judge that will take it. That's it. The other the other issue is I think Republicans are like, yeah, but we don't want to do that to Biden because he sucks and he's insane. So Trump actually could win. That's why they're doing it. Biden is a bumbling daughter who's on the verge of death. And they're like, why would we make him a martyr? Yeah, I think there is a level where- It would, the Democrats would say, see, they're doing it to us. It's tit for tat. All right. Well, are they also even worried if trump does get indicted right is that really even bad for the uniparty the rhinos that are there no it's not

right now they can say these people are being vindictive we are the victims right you go after biden you're no longer the victims you're also being vindictive best case scenario for the rhinos in the uniparty is that trump does get indicted trump does go to jail and he doesn't win that's best case scenario for them so continue to be the victims like, look, we would love to do something. We agree with you. What's happening is awful. It's awful. Because there are segments that don't want Trump to be there.

So it would eliminate him from being an obstacle as they see it and allow them to maybe potentially pitch someone else. They may as well be like lighting candles together on the steps of the Capitol. Right. I mean, that would be that's that's all they would have to do to show their state in solidarity. Yeah, maybe. Yep. Anything else to add to show their state in solidarity. Yeah, maybe. Yep. Anything else to add to that? That's a good point, though. Biden did the same thing.

No, not really. Just wanted to say thanks for having me back. I've called in quite a few times. Right on. Thanks for calling. Cheers, man. Alright. And last but not least, gotta read this name. That guy, this guy this guy you're live how you doing i am doing awesome can you guys hear me okay yeah loud and clear perfect perfect so before i get

into my question i tim and seamus first i've been watching freedom tunes since before seamus was appearing on timcast so been a long time follower of you. And Tim, I've been watching you since way before we launched the, oh, it's not we, you. Since you launched the TimCast, the memberships, like, the date went live. I was a member, like, three hours later, as I woke up and said, oh, crap,

I gotta join. Seamus here, we've been watching you, too. Yeah, the camera's in your bathroom. Oh, I'm in my kitchen. We're watching you too. Yeah, there's a delay. There's a delay.

Now you're in the kitchen. Yes, you got it. Oh, I've been in the kitchen the entire time. See? But that proves it because he knew. Seamus knows everything. That's so true. I just read the spoons.

I just threw them on the carpet and it told me. But what is your inquiry, good sir? So, yeah, I've been kind of, like I said, I've been kind of following you guys for a minute. But one of the things that I've heard you consistently say, Tim, is guys, we're winning, we're winning, we're making progress, we're making progress. But this Mike Johnson thing was like the nail in the coffin for my whitefieldness

uh beforehand it was the big speaker fight and then now i'm like my god at this point is there any hope anymore so i just truly don't think 2024 is going to turn out the way that we realistically want to turn out and i'm just not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. If anything, I see more and more of the deep state and this nonsense that we're just in right now. Even if Biden wins and everything falls apart, it just means there will be a period of rebuilding. I suppose the light at the end of the tunnel is life is just. So let's say Biden wins, everything falls apart, the country collapses, and then you wake up one day and the internet's not working and the phone's not working, you're there, you'll live. You will survive, you will adapt, you will live, and then things will improve from there. And that, like,

I feel like the only real black pill is like, they're going to nuke us and then we die. I don't see that being the case. I think we have to constantly fight. And it's always a struggle. Every generation has their struggle and that's it. But I do think when you look at the culture, when you look at OnlyFans models, whether they're grifting or honest, trying to be like, I found God, that's where the money's at. And when you look at Bud Light and talking to all these big companies, the DEI stuff is failing. They have to ban TikTok because the woke left is out of control.

It really does look like the deep state is spiraling. So sure, maybe not 2024, but if it's this bad right now under deep state rain, imagine how bad it's gonna get in the next several years. And that doesn't mean bad news for us. It means, hey, told you so, and then we can pull out of this nosedive before it becomes oblivion.

I agree. And I think told you so is actually something we need to repeat and repeat very loudly for the people who are either just don't want to listen to us right now or completely disagree with us. It is important for us to remind them, look, we told you it was coming. We told you it was coming. Are you happy now? And I think there's got to be such cognitive dissonance occurring in these people's minds right now. We have friends that are like, oh, it's better now. It's better now. I make more money than ever. Like, are you buying the same amount of stuff?

How's your savings look? Do you know that people are taking payday advances 22% more this year than last year? 22% more. And we're bringing in a new poverty class. But I gotta add, we have, I think, 12 casinos within two to three hours driving time from here. So let me do the math again.

Within one hour driving, you've got Live, Horseshoe, you've got MGM. Charlestown, of course, is down the street. You've got Rocky Gap. So there's five. Who am I forgetting? I feel like I'm forgetting somebody. Well, if we add Harrisburg and York, that's about an hour and a half. So now there're at seven. Then if we want to go to two hours or two and a half

hours, we can add Pittsburgh, which is live. And I think they have Pittsburgh live. They also have Rivers. There's also Lady Luck. That's 10. Then we have Delaware, Delaware Park. Then we have Paraville. So that's 12. Yeah, 12. 12 casinos. That's up to about two and a half hours. If we want to go to three, we hit Philly. If we go to four,

we have all of Atlantic City. The amount of casinos that are popping up is fucking insane. You add two and a half hours, you go down, or three hours, three and a half,

you can get down to Richmond and Norfolk and there's rivers down there. The idea that people are taking payday advances, that they're struggling to pay their bills, but at the same time, casinos are raking in record profits. It shows you the system is like,

we're in the hunger games right now. There are haves and there have nots, and it is not looking good. People are not gonna tolerate struggling to pay their bills and then walking to a casino. Dude, walk it. I don't fucking understand Charlestown, Hollywood Charlestown Casestown casino is West Virginia

horse track. And you go in there and you'll see a dude gambling five grand. Yep. What the fuck is this guy? I can't fucking gamble five grand and I'm rich. What the fuck? Who's? And then people tell me, oh, he's, he's gambling money.

Doesn't have him. Like, I don't believe it, dude. I think there's a ton of rich people. And Andrew Tate said said the portal is closing get rich now because there are people who are super rich and just have money and they make money from money yeah i work 16 hour days to be able to have money and there ain't no fucking way i'm walking into a casino and putting five grand on a table game we will play like a couple hundred bucks if we do play a table game we uh so we don't struggle we do fine we do fine we do all right i'm not We don't struggle. We do fine.

We do fine. We do all right. I'm not rich by any means and sense, but we own a home. We own our cars outright. Our kids' braces are paid off. We do okay. We do okay.

Our grocery bill was $3,000 last month. Whoa. That does not include eating out. That is just the groceries we bought. That's what you get for having five boys. Yeah. I mean, they eat a lot of food. Have you asked them to stop?

Have you considered stopping? I want them to grow. I want them to be happy. I want them to eat whatever they want, you know. He's a good dad. He's just crazy. I know. That actually upsets people that I am a good dad.

Are you tracking macros? No. And lifting? No, I don't do that. I eat protein. It's like 90% of my diet. It's steak, tuna, salmon. I just cycle through those three things.

Good. Yep. And fibrous things. So broccoli, Brussels sprouts, but I don't- Oh, Brussels sprouts. Aren't they the best fibrous thing ever? I don't do carbs. I actually, I don't even like them.

I don't like bread. I don't like potatoes. I just don't like them. So I added carbs since I started the personal training, which is now- Shit, now they're known I'm not Seamus. I said I don't like potatoes. Uh-oh. I'm on-

That's the only thing that would have given it away. I think we're on like week nine of the personal training. And so I brought carbs back into my diet. And no bread though. So it's all rice. So sometimes potatoes, but almost always rice. I got to tell you one of the greatest fucking things ever. I have a sweet rice flour.

And I just make a mochi patty, like a mochi pancake. Yeah. Fucking so good. And yeah fucking so good and yeah so i've been doing uh i'm doing 223 carbs per day beautiful i'm also skating every single day except today because these fucking chairs hurt my ass yeah and i'm like true i i feel bad for boston because i don't know anything about them all i know is i went on amazon and typed in gaming chair and it popped up and i bought them. And we've used them for years. Years.

And these are brand new ones. And something about the way that these ones were built, it's like leaning back. So the good news is, courtesy of Mike Lindell, I have a MyPillow that I am sitting on. Yeah. And it is very comfortable. I like Mike. I like Mike. Yeah, he's great.

I love that bit where he was like arguing with someone and the guy says like, I don't want to hear it from the lumpy pillow guy. He goes, don't call my pillows lumpy. That was what got under skin the most. He's proud of his product. I hope everyone has something to feel that way about. Oh, dude, my pillows are so good. So my technique is I like a regular pillow with a MyPillow on top.

And Pesovic was just like, no, two MyPillows. And I'm like, I get it, Jack. You have to say that but look having a regular pillow which is like flat and hard and it's like yeah it's all right it's like it's not really flat and hard but compared to my pillow and then having the my pillow on top that you can sink into and it's perfect that's the technique right there we have we have like 200 my pillows we got to get rid of because i'll pay you for them oh I'll pay you for them you're allowed to do that one for each child

I'm not flying with them I'll leave them in the hotel I'm going to tonight it's really trigger someone you're gonna leave them in there so basically we ordered 300 for a pit so that during the opening event people could jump into it and they did and I was like we should have ordered more but we ordered probably too much as it was

so we told everybody one dude had like 3 kids I'm like, we should have ordered more, but we ordered probably too much as it was. So we told everybody, everybody gets one. Like if you, like one dude had like three kids, I'm like, take five. You, the missus and the kids. And so every guest gets a pillow and it's mostly because I would consider it. I hate to say it like this

because it's not meant to be derogatory, but refuse in that we individually do not need the pillows. So we're giving them away as gifts to people. I wouldn't call them garbage. No. But I would say like. It's an oversupply.

Yeah. That's a better way to put it. Yeah. Oversupply. But sure, you can buy some. But I mean, that's got. Anyway. That's got dual utility.

I mean, you're helping, you know, Mike and also helping other people. I mean, what we really want. So we really are doing good. We want Mike to come here with a MyP my pillow truck and a bunch of pillows that we can do a bunch of crazy pillow stunts where like we jump off the building into the pillows and things like that but we will gladiator suits we would need we would need probably 2 000 pillows and that would cost uh let me do some quick math 2 000 60 to 70 000 $70,000 if we did 2,000 pillows. I'm good for $200.

And you thought your grocery bill was high. Yep. Yeah. And so we had, they pre-fluffed them for us. When you buy the MyPillow, you put it in the dryer and it, yeah, so they did that for us. It was great. And then the kids were front flipping into it and stuff.

Yeah, it was good fun. Anyway, I think we're over time. Anything else to add, friend? No, no, no. Thank you, guys. I'll definitely be calling back in later on. Cool. Thanks for calling in.

Right on. Later. Adam, thanks for hanging out. Hey, man, I always have a great time here. Yeah, always good to have you. And for everybody who's a member, we really do appreciate all of your support, making all this possible.

It's a dream come true every single day. So thanks for hanging out. Tomorrow morning on The Culture War, we have a couple of, I don't know how to describe them and I don't want to describe them wrong. They're, I think they're feminists, gender critical feminists.

I've only seen some of their work from like Redux. I think they're Redux. All I know is I follow them and they post funny things. They're critical of like the trans movement, but they're still feminists. And though I do follow them and agree with them, when I made that comment where I said, it's funny that women are getting punched in the face, they called me an incel.

Well, here we go. And I said, come on the show and we'll certainly talk about feminism voting and where we're at right now. It'll be fun. So that'll be tomorrow at Tenet Media, 10 a.m. And we will see you all there. Thank you.