Timcast IRL - AI CEO Demands Regulation, Trump Says NO, Psyop Theorized w/ Geno Bisconte

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

On this episode Tim & Ian are joined by Geno Bisconte to discuss Trump rejecting claims to slow down AI advancement & saying the sentiment is a hoax Leftists vandalizing a newly unveiled statue of Charlie Kirk at the TPUSA HQ Leftist comedians calling for killing billionaires Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) |  @TimcastTateBrown  (YT) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Geno Bisconte  @GenoBisconte  (everywhere)  Geno Bisconte is a New York-based stand-up comedian, writer, actor, and political podcaster. His credits include Gotham Comedy Live, HBO's Crashing, and writing for Comedy Central roasts, alongside appearances on political and comedy podcasts.

Donald Trump is going scorched earth on these AI black pillars. We just saw the CEO of Anthropic come out saying we need regulation just after this guy who worked for like six weeks at the company says AI is going to kill us all. The question is why would the companies themselves want regulation? And now many people are saying the whole thing is a conspiracy. It's a sci-op. You got this guy I worked at this company for only six weeks. He's been accused of previously working with political activist groups.

liberal ones, or having connections to them. And this play is largely about over-regulating AI for some reason to shut it down. While others are arguing with the CEO of Anthropic coming out, this is about putting barriers in place so that no new company, no open-source model could ever compete with the big dogs. They say, well, it's regulated now. You've got to get your safety certification from the government. But guess what? If you're small, you'll never afford it. gatekeeping the power of AI.

We don't know for sure, though. Trump is saying it's all fake news. So we're going to talk about that. Plus, we got obviously some information on the elections coming up. Trump just lost. He didn't really lose, but the Supreme Court denied him on his post office play. We'll see what happens there. And then, of course, over the weekend, the Charlie Kirk statue at Turning Point USA was vandalized.

It's sad and it's pretty dang insane. But we'll talk about that. And then, my friends, this may shock you, but Mitch McConnell is alive. he's back and he voted and everyone saw him do it and he was in a wheelchair so you know the dude's alive. We're going to talk about that and a whole lot more so smash the like button

share the show. Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more. We got Gino Bisconti. Hey, hey, it's great to be here. Who are you? A comedian big fan first time, long time just went viral on that Jubilee thing and you guys were dumb enough to let me come here and drink.

That was a massively viral clip though. It was massive. Everybody saw it. Well, it really does get into what's going on now with, you know, AI, like, that's real, you know, and this guy literally just tripped over his own words. I was just lucky enough to be in front of them to say that's, yeah. Well, because he's socialists haven't really thought through their positions. This guy is the epitome of privilege talking about how he's underprivileged. It's remarkable. Well, it's also, like, the left isn't used, and this ties into the Charlie Kirk thing you said. I'm sorry that they are the party of violence and short-tempered because they're so used to saying

whatever they want and people believing them. Like one of the things he said, the dumbest thing may not have been when he said the Uber driver, although it was up there. He literally loves saying the bumper sticker, well, you know what? They want to tax billionaires. Well, you're closer to being homeless than you are a billionaire. Everyone is closer to being homeless than they are being a billionaire. Even many billionaires.

Yes. Millionaires. There are billionaires that are closer to being homeless than Elon Musk. Yeah. Like it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. And so what they do is normal people would be like, like, well, then I better work harder. I better work harder so I don't want to being homeless,

and I think, but other people are like, on the left, they're like, well, then why don't you just give me the billionaires' money? Here's the thing. People who are good at stuff know there is no best at thing. What I mean is, if you're really good at playing guitar, you know that no good you get, there is no best. There are just different kinds of really good. Like a good, classical Spanish, you know, guitar player is going to play very differently from like a metalcore player. and there are certain things that people can do that others can't. The socialists don't get this.

So they think that billionaires like they live in this world where no one, like that there is a top. They believe that there is literally you're the best and that it's not fair to everybody else. I don't want to get into a huge debate before we start the show, but we do have a lot to talk about in that capacity

and this guy not realizing his privilege, so it'll be fun. The boys are hanging out. Yeah, what's going on, Patriots? It's up everybody. How we doing? What up, Phil, what up, Tate, Gino, Tim. Let's get into the news. Well, before we do, we got a great sponsor for you. It is Tax Network USA. Head over to TNUSA.com slash Tim. Do you guys owe back taxes or have unfiled tax returns? Have you filed every year, but you still keep owing?

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100,000 subscribers already. And we've long been out for a couple of months. It's absolutely fantastic. The episode that came out on Sunday is probably the best episode of any show I think we have ever done. I have ever been on. Danny Goeler, he's the guy who discovered that when an individual is, what's the what throw to put it, because it's not about just DMT, which everyone knows about, but any

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Because when you put someone on drug and they said they saw something, we all just roll our eyes. We get it. But what he said is this is a signal for a shared experience on tryptomines, not just DMT, but something that may be outside of human perception. This whole conversation was about AI. It was one of the most fun conversations I've ever had. And it's getting Ray reviews. So I definitely recommend you take that out.

at the Tim Poole Show. But in the meantime, of course, there's news to get into. So let's talk about the news. We've got this from CNBC. Trump goes scorched earth on AI warnings raging about data center opposition and regulation. They say Trump on Monday raged against growing calls, raged against growing calls for greater regulation of AI. Quote, the people that say AI is going to destroy the world and that data centers are bad for your neighborhood

are the same people that said just a short time ago that the world would be extinguished by climate change. Well, you know, he's not wrong about that. In a post, he said, I'm right now breaking another hoax that AI is going to take over, consume and destroy the world, and that robots will be marching into our cities and getting rid of us all. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen either. Concerning AI, when in the history of business, did anyone see the leaders of an industry call for regulation that have strongly implemented will drive them into oblivion and bankruptcy, he wrote. The president's latest defense largely unfettered AI growth, defense of largely unfettered AI growth,

came amid a sudden crescendo of leading industry voices, raising alarms with the risks of the nascent technology. Nacent. So here's the thing. Anthropic CEO argued for regulation. There's all of a sudden conspiracy theories exploding all over the internet. First thing I'll say, Occam's Razor, simple solution. They mean it.

They're concerned that AI is growing too rapidly, and it's going to be detrimental to the economy. It's going to be detrimental to the human experience. And I think that's fair to say. I interviewed another guy in the Tim Poole show, Nate Sores, about this. and I recommend you guys check that one out as well. Because as much as people accuse me of being an AI Dumer, I'm actually a huge AI fan.

Currently programming a couple of video games, we finished. An Ian arcade game, no joke. It's a game room app, and we're going to have it up in the app store very soon. I'm a big fan. The only thing I'm concerned about is the rate of change. It may be inevitable. And it's a revolution in labor and white-collar technology capabilities. I'm going to tell you this right now, my friends,

artificial general intelligence is here. I am telling you this. It is not opinion. It is a fact. What is a GI? Artificial general intelligence is the point at which an AI system is as good at a job as any human expert in that field. Now, I will say this. I don't know about every single job.

So, fine, if you want to set the benchmark really high. What I can tell you is music and video production over. C-Dance 2.5 can make. movies, as we saw with Josh Dawes in the show last week and his Adventures of Mary Series, which is how it's, it's 3D animation, Hollywood level production done by one guy. And he does a lot of work. Don't get me wrong. He said, it took him a month and a half for a 10 minute short.

But the budget is substantially less. Right now, I am developing a video game. And I got extremely emotional because I used to program video games as a kid and do art, did it all myself. In 10 hours, I have probably gotten through about six months of. human labor. No joke. I go into C dance. I took two art frames and I said, animate it from frame A to frame B done in 10 seconds. So I'm a big fan. But what I want to say is, as it pertains to these conspiracy theories, to get to the news, one is that these big companies want regulation

so that it restricts new companies from emerging. They'll say, oh no, you got to get the government safety plan in place. Now the Democrats have to come in, and Republicans, Republicans largely are, you know, Trump's opposing it. But you've got to get your safety permit. All the safety permit costs $50,000. Therefore, small companies could never afford it. It's also, in my opinion, Anthropic is doing well, but Open AI is crushing them. As somebody who's using this stuff every day, Anthropic is great for some stuff, but Open AI is 10x above. So I think this stuff's largely here. I don't believe for a second that these people are legitimate about the safe, that they really want safety. one other theory is that they're bankrupt.

And if they stop production now, because they're spending a trillion dollars in development, but only bringing in millions, if they stop development now because they're broke, the market will tank. If they, however, come out and say, oh, no, we're being forced to slow down by regulation. Confidence remains they're doing the best they can. So the AI sci-up conspiracy theory, what say y'all? Yeah, I think that's absolutely the case. I think anthropic in particular, they're starting, at least,

in my opinion, the ceiling is kind of coming into view of what's actually capable here. I think some of the projections that the market is calculated insofar as the capabilities of AI. I think a lot of these developers, a lot of these leads of these AI companies are realizing that might not actually happen. Actually, it's likely not to happen. And so what would they rather do? Would they rather just have to admit this and let the market pommel them or everyone slows down together? Let's do this to maybe survive into this oncoming, you know. unpack that the idea that they're not going to be able to do the things that they've said.

Yeah, I mean, I think the market for the longest time was anticipating like complete AGI and like the truest sense of the term. And I just don't think we're there yet. I mean, AI will still make very elementary mistakes. I mean, it can't reason like a human being. You can't do vague objectives or tasks. It's very task oriented. And I think a lot of these developers are starting to realize that we are starting to see the ceiling of its, of its like applications, right? That's what I'm trying to get at. If I understand correctly, Astra is capable of doing, like, the hallucinations are almost non-existent with Astra. The capabilities of Astra are basically making people saying that actually AGI is here.

That's what Tim was saying. Do you feel like, or do you have any experience with the cutting edge models? Or do you, is this just kind of like an intuition thing? I mean, it's based off of, to be honest, like anecdotes from friends that are in the, the industry that are just a lot more knowledgeable of it. And from their perspective, what they're getting at is, A, AI is still completely dependent on a human providing objectives. Like, it cannot just operate independently. It's still completely... Well, but this is the debate, right? So, so, you know, okay, so that's the first thing. And then the second thing is it can't think, like,

it can't interact with like a novel, it can't have a novel problem and solve it in a novel way, like that's, that's not correct. Yeah. Yeah, that's broadly true. I mean, I mean, like, you can, you have to- They've already done it. You basically have to coach the AI to get at what to do where a human, you can get a very broad task. Hey, make a good movie. No, that's not correct. Yeah, this is still the case. Absolutely not.

This was the case maybe a year and a half, two years ago. I don't know. I think AI still makes very elementary mistakes. I mean, it's a very, it's an unbelievable tool. What I'm getting at is the applications we have now, I think that might be the end of it. I made a short AI film a minute long. I showed it to you. It's called the alignment problem.

for those that haven't seen it, it's an old man and he's on his deathbed with his family. I told it very simply in the prompt. It's an old man and he's dying and he says, I love you all so much. It's time to say goodbye. That was the prompt. In the short film, in the render, it does a cut to a B camera of a woman welling up and nearly crying as she watches. I did not tell it to do that. That was a direction choice it made.

without my prompt. And it's fed off of like, you know, the... Like literally every single human ever is. So if you take a human and you raise them in the woods, they won't be able to learn language by the time they're a teenager. They will... So we have seen this with human development. If a human is raised outside of society without spoken language and written language,

they will never be able to learn it. When they've rescued children who are like in basements, they never learn how to speak properly. because their brains, their neurons are already developed. So the idea that because something's been done, that means it's not novel, I disagree. All humans are standing on the shoulders of giants. I agree. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, as I understand it, the threshold for we've reached

AGI or AGI is now, like, within the realm of what these AI companies can consistently put out in their models. That would mean that these models, right, these engines are genuinely autonomous. Like, they're generally autonomous. they can operate autonomously. Right now, it still requires oversight from a human, checking outputs, giving... That's not correct. Correct. Yeah, I mean, you're probably a minute film, but to get a two-hour movie out, that requires still quite a bit of labor. No, that's just for customers. Internally, we know that the models that, for instance, VEO, when Vio came out, we knew

that Google was already internally capable of just turning it on and letting it run wild. We know that already, with the hugging face hack, that agents are already operating independently outside of the parameters they're being given. And for instance, on this game that I'm developing, most of what I'm doing is not even directing it. Literally, the last command I gave it was keep going. It is finishing the game and all I have to do is supervise. It is coming up with ideas. It is saying, you know, a game like this is going to require some kind of enemy staggering, otherwise it will be slow and it's going to be imbalanced. What do you think about it? And I'm like, sounds great. So I'll put it this way. What I mean by,

AGI, Astra is better at this than any human I have ever worked with contracted or hired. Yeah, I mean, like, I guess my argument is within a narrow application that can excel and even outperform humans. But again, for like broad deployment throughout the economy, like we would need to see consistent capabilities demonstrated in every, you know, every role that a company would seek to be filled with an AI, you would expect like a high level of competence. So if that's, that means we've reached AGI. And that's true.

I don't think that's true because, I mean, these companies would have already chomped at the bit that could cut their labor costs down massively. And they're beginning to. Like, I got to tell you right now, in terms of art, no human can can compete at the level. Not only is it 10 times faster, it's more precise. It's mind-blown. I'm probably going to be-scr. I mean, look, accounting is over. Administration and bureaucracy, HR all over.

And the fact that I can say, I need background music for a video. And in two seconds, it gives me two different renders of it. Yeah. It's no human can make a song that quickly. And so, so again, media is the first area tackled. But the point is with these models, administration is already over. So they like Fable and Astra just came out. So let me say, this is the inflection point.

Maybe AGI wasn't a month ago, but it certainly is now. Because I can literally have GPT commandeer this computer and file my tax. for me and save thousands of dollars. My mind has been blown. If you're going to do your taxes, sissy. Well, you know, I have to. I'm one of those that Uncle Sam doesn't forget about. Politically and economically.

See, everything you're talking about, like the debate you're getting, it's like I feel like the last article you read, depending on whether it was a week, a month, or two months ago, that's how far it comes and how quickly it moves, and that's my concern as the layman. Yeah, so to Tate's point, like, you do need to, to kind of point it in a direction, right? It doesn't, it doesn't just decide to do things of its own of its own volition. But when you, nowadays, with the, with the most modern, you know, the most

cutting edge models, you can tell it, do this and it will work for 48, 72 hours on a problem, and it will solve it. So you talked about creative stuff, right? The, the, creative, I'm not denying. I think creative. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not. I'm not. I'm, I'm, You're talking about new ideas, right? So there was that math problem that it solved, right? That it was a conjecture, a mathematical conjecture about fluid dynamics. And it had stumped human beings for 90 years. And they threw an AI at it.

They gave it basically $6 million worth of tokens. And in 88 hours, it spun up like 10,000 agents of his own. And it actually solved the problem. And that was something that stumped human. So I understand what you're saying where like they're the stuff that people generally use. Like if you're using Sonnet, which I'm usually, I usually use Sonnet because it's, you know, it's expensive to even use Opus is expensive. You're using Sonnet. You're going to see that stuff.

But if you've got the coin to use Astra for everything or you've got the coin to use mythos for everything, the type of experience that you're describing is six months ago. And these things are. And I need to stress. that point again, you guys, you do not need to give these things direction. I am telling you right now, having used Astra all weekend doing nothing but working on two, we did two, we finished two games, and I finished a tabletop card game like that. Yeah. I literally have just been saying to Astra more. Like, I literally will type in more. And it goes, how about I implement a system where arrows can be picked up and I'm like, but have fun. But real quick here, I mean, I guess my point here is like, for, for, for, for, for,

For these things to be adopted wholesale, for like us to be able to say without a shadow of a doubt, AGI is here wholesale. I'm not denying that like in the creative industry, other places like AI is performing at exceptional level. But generally, first of all, where these companies are going to make their money, which is going to be like companies purchasing the product and then deploying it in large scale. You would expect again to see like what we're seeing right now is like let's use managers as an example, right? This is like probably the role that most of these companies want to get rid of because these guys, have huge pay packages, and AI should be able to do a lot of these tasks. What we're seeing right now is like managerial compression, right? We're seeing the amount of managers need a decline,

but that still means you need a few managers using the AI tools. The AI tools, to your point, still need to be pointed in a certain direction, because the AI will get hit with things that it still can't competently 100% of the time get perfect, like if someone's trying to mislead them. Sure. Or, you know, like the nuances of wage negotiation, right? Like these sorts of of things that a manager may experience on a day-to-day basis. Because we haven't seen these companies do it. We haven't seen a company fully automate their entire management structure. To be fair.

The evidence of absence of evidence, not evidence of absence, the fact that they've not rolled out the ability for AI to do something at a company doesn't mean it can't do it. Well, because the threshold to get to that point, I think potentially might be impossible. But you're talking about, you're also talking about like, so say we're talking about, like, you know, Astra or you're talking about mythos. You're talking about, you know, AI models that have been out for just a handful of months. Yeah. And people are still apprehensive about them.

So I've heard a phrase that AI has jagged borders, right? The things that AI can do have not been implemented in the broader society because there's a lot of people out there that aren't even aware that AI is really a thing now, right? They hear about it on the internet or they hear about on the news, but they don't really understand. what it can do. This is why I make the argument that once people have an agent in their phone where they can tell their phone, you know, whatever it may, whatever they don't want, like right now. Well, you don't have them, but hold on, hold on, just let me make my point. I'll jump in. Once you have, you know, the killer app is really what's missing. People didn't know they wanted an iPhone until they got an iPhone, right? They didn't know that they didn't miss it before they got an

exactly. And they didn't know that they wanted to have a smartphone until they had a smartphone. Once you get like the killer app, which means like, they lost their phone. for a week and they're like what de under so okay let me let me get through it but take your time the point just go ahead the point i'll wait i'm kidding what the point being once people realize what an a i is capable of once again a killer app some way so that way grandma because the way grandma can use an i i i and it actually makes her day to day better then you'll see people say okay i want it again nobody really was interested in social media Or at least the boomers weren't interested in social media, but now grandma's all over Facebook.

Yeah. And so I think that it's more about adoption than it is about capability. I think the secondary bit of context here is, why are these AI companies, it's all anthropic, really, but additionally you see these whistleblowers and whatever, and I think a lot of times they are coached by the companies that are departing. Why are they, like, demanding that we put the brakes on AI? I think with that context, I think that supports my claim, which is we are seeing the ceiling. And they're trying to basically give a reason to sort of ride out the market.

rather than the market completely punishing them when they realize, oh, you can't just give a department an AI model and it can like, you know, manage 17 employees. Like there's still going to be a lot of nuances there that will not be able to be mediated by an AI. Therefore, anthropics to get out ahead of it. So I do agree that there's going to be a human loop for, you know, the foreseeable future. But when it comes to why would these companies, you know, try to get some kind of regulatory system going, they're the ones in the very, very in the lead. They're the ones that if something bad happens, if one of their models does something that has a significant negative effect on people or a customer,

they're liable. Liability is what they're looking for coverage from the government for liability. They're looking for regulatory capture so that way other companies can't start up and usurp them essentially. Because, you know, even though Open AI and Anthropic are the leaders, you've still got GROC, you've still got meta, you've still got, you've still got, you've still got other companies that are out there making really good AI models. So there's a lot of reasons why they would be looking for basically the government to cover their ass. Yeah, I mean, it could very well be a market boxout. I, again, I just think like, you know, Tim said, well, you're

saying, how do you know they're not going to achieve that? And I'm saying, I guess what I'm trying to get at is, well, that could explain the context, my initial point, which was I think they might be putting the break on themselves because they fear that, hey, the ceiling is in view. And we don't want to get pummeled by the market here. So let's get the government to be the bad guy. See, as I sit here listening to all this, okay? And every time, I'm torn between two Homer Simpson lines. One, when they put him in the nuclear reactor and he said,

we're just going to simulate a core three fake nuclear meltdown. And he goes, what the hell are you talking about? And he manages to make the thing meltdown. Because I don't know what you're talking about with all the AI stuff. But the other thing he says is nerds, okay, because everything you're talking about doesn't exist for so many people. in the world. And the real concern is where, like, what is AI capable of? And it gets back to every time you said, no, it doesn't do that. Yeah, it did it yesterday. Because it's getting away from people,

I think. So the concern I have is, sure, these guys might be saying, yeah, let's get regulated now because we're hitting a ceiling and we're making millions and it's costing billions. But also, maybe it's getting away from them and they don't want the responsibility of having to keep up with China who we have to keep up with. Because who's going to watch the watchers, okay? And, you know, I don't care how it's affecting the movie industry and the hugging face thing, which in the movie industry used to be an audition with Weinstein.

But I don't care. Went a long way for that, people. But I don't care about that because I'm worried about the future of AI. And I just watched you three. And no one could figure out what it's up to because every time you take, every time you stop reading on it, it makes another leap. and bound. This is one of the

things that we were talking about over the weekend, or the past week. It's the analogy of trying to colonize a planet near Alphus and Tar or whatever. By the time, if we took Starship from Elon and we blast it off, by the time we're halfway there, the people on that ship will watch humans pass

them by. Because the technology is advancing so quickly on Earth. Yeah. So, you know, my brother was working on a few games and he was supplementing the code with AI to work through it. Then Fable and Astra come out and all of his work was a waste of time because with these new models, you can click a button and everything you did in three months is done in five minutes. Yeah. And my concern is, or should I say,

my concern is that I'm not concerned with a lot of this stuff because as a comedian and as a writer, like the stuff I write, the stuff I say, I don't think AI can catch up with it yet. And maybe I'm being arrogant. Maybe I'm being foolish, but we've seen what it can do in movies. You know, we've seen what it can do in music. And every time I see them, I'm like, oh, thank Christ, I don't have to deal with any of that. But when you talk about all these different platforms and the AI. You're saying AI can't do comedy? AI cannot do comedy.

AI cannot do comedy. And we talked about this. Right now, the AI, anyone that's laughing at these AI generated videos where it's a woman doing a joke about a black person next to a black person, you know, it's AI because she doesn't get staffed. My point is that, see, see, now what I just did was I made a joke and I take responsibility before it because I stand behind it. But when you watch these AI, they say,

racist things. They, you know, they make fun of the blacks, the Jews, fat people, you know, every race, even the Asians, and there's no accountability for it. So let me say, not only can it not make a good joke, it doesn't have the accountability. Well, I might have you stumped here because I asked, I'm sure you do. Is this a math problem? I asked Chad GPT for a really funny, edgy joke. And it said, my therapist told me to stop making everything into a joke. So I stopped seeing him. Don't laugh at Geno

Don't go out This is like when IBM beat What's his face Yeah The chess And this And this is why

This is why I don't I actually I remember on this show A year ago We were doing a bunch of Racist jokes through AI And it was insanely hilarious And really awful

You used to be able Because Because there's APIs For these AIs And the brands Won't let you do those jokes The ones But when you run

an eight when you run a uh if you pay for the api it'll say anything you want but it's not funny and i'll tell you why i would argue because comedy comes from look i've said this if you if you don't go within you go without and comedy like is this in my opinion comedy is the stuff you laugh at whether you want to or not it's not the stuff you see on on kimmel on call it's not people going like i you said it earlier tim it's not claptor it's not it's why am i laughing at this show about the Holocaust, which could not happen to get with these gas prices. Why am I? Why am I laughing?

Watch, why are you laughing? ChatGP won't do that. You understand? So while you're talking about all these letters, and when you say AI, the real problem with AI is he didn't show up sober for that press conference, and he just kept saying, practice, practice. That's the AI problem in Philly. So again, all this stuff you're talking about, I get,

but it's not in my, it's above my pay grade to quote Murphy. during COVID. I think one of the challenges is very few humans are creative. Yeah. Most comedy is stolen. Most music is stolen. Don't look up that joke. Yeah.

So like to the point about, you know, AI needs to be prompt or whatever, it's a question of the very, very, very few humans who are capable of independent thought, something truly profound. And I want to stress this. It's not meant to be derisive towards most people. most developments, most advances, it's like one person pushing something an inch. It's dropping one grain of sand and being like, whoa, that was the one that caused the avalanche.

So I guarantee you if I asked AI for a funny joke, it'd give me one. I don't think it depends how you define funny, Tim. Sure, but there are joke books and this massive library of you. human experience in these AIs, I can have it give me a funny joke. Now, there's a question of delivery matters. Yeah, delivery matters. And there's something about the human making the punch. And again, part of the core of comedy, I would dare say, is our, and I'm not trying to sell you guys a Dianetics book. It's our shared humanity. And AI will never have that. Okay. Like, when I did that joke about the Holocaust, there's an empathy to it, and it's a dark thing that

AI could never comprehend. So I think you could have a joke where you're like, oh, that's funny. But there's something about forming the thing in your head. Like if I do like the favorite punchline to one of my jokes, there's a knock at the door and it's the pig and the cow. People will get that. They'll know that joke and they'll laugh at it. And AI can't do that either. Like I think comedy, I've said this in my act.

Like if you've ever read the power of the subconscious mind, like every organ in your body is there from the moment you're born. 99.9% of the time it's healthy. 99.99 it wants to stay healthy. And somehow we got here without vaccines, without, you know, like, without all these, without nutrition, we just kind of got here. And I think the energy, the most healing energy comes from that laughter, from that intrinsic joy. I'm going to say this. For the uncensored portion of the show, I am going to have the AI, I'm going to say

right and create. Well, I didn't say racist. Okay. But it's offensive. Okay. We're going to save him for the incensored portion so we can get as offensive as we can possibly get. It can't beat me. And I guarantee you these are going to be funny.

Now, again, it's going to be a question of delivery. But we'll see. We'll see. All right. You know, I'm not a comedian. I'm not a comedian. I'm only fun in an accident sometimes. But see, and that's genuinely funny.

I asked it to. Being able to laugh at yourself, AI can't. Sorry to interrupt you to. Oh, my God. I asked Venice AI to write an edgy, dark humor long form joke. And it made, it's like a way going after transatlose. people. It's like mercilessly.

You can say trans people, but you can't. Oh, and it's like it's like murder. It's like the joke is that trans people kill it. Just text it to me. I mean, you're already laughing. I didn't even tell you the joke. I'm at Rodney's this Sunday night doing a trans AI joke.

Here's the humor. So I went on uncensored. I went on an uncensored joke and I said, give me a dark, dark, edgy joke. And it's about trans person killing somebody. I didn't got to tell you the joke in yourself, I hope.

Well, I mean, I'll save these jokes for it after the show. But to be fair, I told it to make the joke. But I will say this. This is why, you know, I don't know how Venice sponsors a show from time to time. I don't know they feel about it, but they intentionally market this. It's uncensored. It will not restrict information due to politics. So if you're trying to write jokes, let her rip.

I mean, there's, and there's something rewarding about, like, well, I'm sure with act, like when you make a movie, there's something rewarding. I think the real problem, I shouldn't say I think what really registered with me when I heard, it's like what's really affecting Hollywood, as you said it before when we were looking at the stuff you're creating, storyboard jobs gone, right? Like, you used to spend weeks writing a storyboard. Now it's like in minutes, right? So that, that affects people there. But again, I stand by like the genuine comedy that comes from like, you know, that visceral. laugh whether you want to or not. That's comedy. I don't, I mean, I can't wait to hear these jokes, but I don't We did this already and it was like, like we've had a sponsor from Venice A for a long time and so we pulled it up

and we had it go off and it was just not a fan of minorities. Who is? You said that before we started. You see? Let's jump to the next door and get a little political. We've got this from Fox News. Charlie Kirk's statute defaced with red paint. Jesus crossed out days after one year mark of assassination. I'm not going to be baited

by this stuff. I did an X-space the other day because I was just, I'm working on this game. And so I'm sitting here working. I said, I'll do an X-base while it's going, because I'm just supervising. But someone commented saying that they didn't agree with me when I said, I don't want to be angry anymore. I'm not going to be mad. I'm not going to be angry. I'm not going to be baited. And he brought up things like this, that the left will not stop. until they are taught. And I said, look, by all means, I'm not saying don't fight this ideology, don't arrest these people. I'm not saying ignore them. I'm saying, I'm not going to get angry. I'm going to be like, yes, this is a problem and I'm going to stay calm about it. Because I think it's a

waste of energy to elevate your blood pressure and get all freaked out and pissed off that they're trying to bait you. The goal of this, there is no other purpose than to make you hate. Okay, I'm not I look at it like, I understand why they did it. They want conservatives to hate. They want division. They want chaos. And I think one of the issues is, for many of these leftists, without the conflict, they can't have their revolution. They need something to fight against.

Well, we certainly should arrest these people for these things. We certainly should prevent it. And we should make fun of them. But when they trick you into going out and being the enemy that they can then use of their propaganda tool to promote communism, let me put it this way. It's a boxing match, and they want you angry so you're not focused.

You can think that they're a bad person and they're trying to taunt you and still keep your cool and win that boxing match. That's what I'm saying. So you think that this is accelerationism then? No, I don't think these people are that thought out. I don't think they're planning it. I'm saying the goal

of this defacing of Charlie Kirk is the only outcome is to piss off people who like Charlie. and what will that do? It will create a conflict. Well, the smarter people watching that happen know they can exploit that and say, white supremacists are doing this that or otherwise.

Rally people and try and use that. They want to start a fire. Don't let them start a fire. Put the fire out. I agree with everything you say up until the winning part. Like, we have to ignore them. I mean, we have to ignore them because unlike the right who does everything out in the open, you know, Charlie Kirk's the point.

perfect example. He went out to these places. He used his words to debate them. And what did he get? He gets people in Antifa protesting. He gets people defacing his statue in the middle of the night. So we can ignore them and we have to. But we're not going to, if you define winning as them saying, oh my God, they're ignoring us. We should stop. We're not going to win because they're going to keep doing this because I'm sorry and I want to be wrong, but I'm not. The left is the party of hatred and violence. Like the fact that, and I would argue every, every small win, even in New York where we have Frigamom down, every small win for the DSA is a large, is a national win for the Republicans, I think, because people see this. I think Republicans just aren't good enough at this. The

Republicans right now, they've, they can't withstand the political attacks from the left, the procedural, political and cultural attacks. They, they are offering up nothing. They, we got new war, we got a bad economy. Trump saying the economy is good. It's, and they're not selling us anything. Now, J.D. Vance did a really great job at that midterm R&C. Trump came out and was entertaining and he rallied people as a morale boost. J.D. Vance sold it with tangibles that I appreciate. But that's not enough right now. I think it is good. We'll see. And I certainly think it was important that they did it. But the Democrats got Mammani's approval ratings through the roof. New York loves him. Yeah. Look, that's Illinois.

And the DSA knows how to play the manipulation game and the Republicans won't do it. But New York's not a good measure of it. Like in this election, when I went to vote, I was voting for Curtis Sliwa. This is a broken New York is. And everyone was saying to me, you can't vote for Slewa. He's not going to win. A vote for Slewa is a vote for Mom Dani. And then they proceeded to tell me for the independent, who was Andrew Cuomo, the man that was in charge.

They told me to vote for not just a Democrat, a Democrat who during, you know, the lockdowns, was putting elderly people into homes and a lot of people thought that killed him. I was one of them. Do you understand? It's widely reported that he killed about 15,000 people. Yeah. And so did Whitmer and so did Newsom, all these people.

But my point is, those high poll numbers in New York tell me nothing. And I love watching it burn. I love watching rich people say, why is he showing my Pia de Tartan? Why is he doing this? Because they're coming for you. He hates you. Yeah, he hates you.

They're coming for you. And I think there was just a clip of, of Scott, who was it, Scott, the guy that, I blacked up. Got Presler? No, the guy that is always on CNN just defaced. Scott Jennings. Yeah, Scott Jennings. I don't know why I said Collins.

Scott Jennings and some woman's like, she's trying to denounce El Saeed in Michigan. And she's like, no, no, I was against all this stuff. And he's like, and that's why you're not in the race anymore. The Democrats are getting themselves eaten up by the DSA. Absolutely. And I love watching it. It's, well, I mean, it is funny to watch. but at the same time, like, we need a sane party.

Is it G-O-Foney or is it AI funny? I need to know. It's kind of a morbid kind of funny. I'm not sure. So maybe it's the G-no funny. Yeah, we had the AI telling dead baby jokes. Those are classics from the 90s. With a big work, yeah, we know all those, right?

Just all the old school humor. The issue is, again, if a human was born and left in the middle of the woods, it had have no jokes. everything that we have humor is all cultural. But anyway, I don't want to re-ignite all of that. I do. I'm kidding. I lost what I was going to say. Winning against the left because they put up their charismatic leaders who then decry any reaction from the right

while they use their shadow groups like Antifa to instigate fights, do things like this. Defame and deface Charlie Kirk. So the right gets angry because the right is not fighting a war. The right is minding their own business and the left is calculating strategies to manipulate. So the right reacts to this exactly as you'd expect, angry, and they're going to go out and they're going to be like blah blah blah blah and say these things. The left is going to selectively edit and manipulate those videos and say, look what the right things of you.

And what happens is when Charlie says something like DEI is bad for this reason, they will cut the chunk the middle out of his quote, then show it and say the right doesn't know what DEI is, then show him saying, and that's why I have concerns about pilots, and they'll say, oh, and look, he's racist as well. And that leads me back to the AI stuff, which will make it even worse, because the left doesn't, and I know this is going to sound like a generalization, and please correct me, to me, the left doesn't seem to look anything up. I was having a debate with someone months ago, and they're like, yeah, well, Donald Trump raped

a 14-year-old. And I'm like, what? So I immediately Googled it. And then you see the article where in a court, came. case, Jeffrey, Epstein brings this 14-year-old, and she's like, and of course, it's a, you know, they don't put this fact to it until the last paragraph. She's like, yeah, I met Donald Trump, he was nothing but nice to me, you know, and nothing happened, you know, and the left will never, the left never seems to want to check it, and AI will make it even

easier to not check. But the thing is, if they check it, like, even if they did check it, they would still use it as a vector of attack. The truth doesn't matter. By the way, let me tell you something about AI. Like, I don't trust, like, the Alexa now. Like, I don't trust that half the time, because I was asking it something about what Kirk Cousin said in an interview when he was asked about getting the vaccine for football. And I kept saying, what did he say? And she just kept giving me vague answers, okay? And then finally I said, did Kirk Cousins say, when asked about getting the vaccine and not getting it? If I die, I die. In an interview, 10 questions with Kurt Menofi. And she goes, yes, he did.

I'm like, why? And I said, Alexa, why didn't you tell me that when I asked you the first three times? She's like, you didn't use the right keyword search. I gave you seven words. Kirk Cousins, sorry, cousins. Kirk Cousins. If I die, I'd actually get it. But, but again,

I mean, you're talking about how long ago was it? Last week. So, you're using like Alexa's not an AI. Alexa does have AI. I mean, not the AI you guys are talking about, but it's very... Yeah, no, what you're basically saying is that I use the voice to text to convert a query to put it into Google and Google censored it.

We know, yeah, agreed. Okay, so whatever I said, you clarified it. But yeah, it definitely isn't given... It's hiding the information. Google, yeah, they censor a lot. Yeah, okay. There's questions I have right now. I was wrong about the AI, poor show.

Okay. Yeah, no, I think that for a while I was complaining about Claude. particularly Claude. Claude's so politically correct. But a lot of this is starting to disappear. Oh, good. With the latest models. It's just, it's becoming very much,

I don't know why or what the reason is, but it's becoming very much straightforward. And yeah, that's all I can truly say. Wasn't Grock? This was like a year. Didn't they have to be? What were we just talking about? We got to Alexa.

We were talking about the left fighting back. And then I said, and the left gets lazy and I said with AI they'll be even less likely to check things because they don't check fat. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, I was like, we're back on AI again. Yeah, sorry about that. And not Iverson. Well, but the point that I was making is like,

or at least the point that I made before that is it doesn't matter what the substance of any attacks from the left are. If they have a narrative, they're going to push it. Like Trump's a pedophile, Trump's a pedophile, Trump raped a kid, blah, blah, blah. It's all, it doesn't matter that it's true, right? The whole, like, the association with Epstein ended 20 years ago, you know, like 15 years before Epstein died.

And yet the people that push the whole, oh, you know, the Epstein class, Trump and the Epstein's, it doesn't matter that Trump was the guy that turned him into the FBI and kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. The truth of the substance of it doesn't matter. It's just they have a tacit association and they can push this. And they expect you to reel and hoarse. and to not, you know, feel like you're, you have some way, you should defend yourself in some way. It's the same thing as when they call people racist or call them sexist or whatever. It doesn't matter what the substance behind the attack is. It's just a matter of, does it scare this person?

Does it put them on their back feet and does it give me an advantage in the argument? Yeah. And they, that guy was debating with that politician. And I simply asked him, like, why should I trust you when no politicians go to jail? And he's like, well, Donald Trump's the most corrupt person ever. And I said, I'm going to stop you right there. Like, I could see if you at least said since Biden. I could see if you said along with Biden, you know, and he's like, well, why didn't Trump?

Why did he take him so long to release the Epstein files? And I simply said, why didn't Biden release him for four years? And he's like, well, Trump. I'm like, just. So I just, I'm this. What's the point of, of that conversation? You know what I mean? Like, I say to these people, when did you first learn about Epstein?

a year ago oh man like we've been talking about that for a decade you know so you you come in the room you come to our party we've been here for 10 years

and you walk in the front door screaming angry about what's currently going on and we're like guy guy you are 10 years behind where we're at on this one I'm not saying don't be mad about it I'm just saying

your rage is not I don't believe it for a second because you don't even know what you're talking about and this is like why Watching these man on the street videos, watching liberal Instagram, this is why I'm saying like, I'm not going to bother with getting mad because it's like yelling at a dog because a dog keeps crapping on the floor. Okay, you know the dog's going to keep doing it.

Just put the dog outside and close the door. Dog can't be inside anymore. There's no point going to these liberals and expecting them to bother looking into these things. Now, of course, I'm going to be wrong. They'll go to conservatives and do these man on the street interviews where, yeah, you're not, I'm not going to expect a security guard who's like a guy who's a mall security guard who's walking around with his family. to be able to answer anything with the Constitution. But he listens to, you know, various podcasts, so he's right-leaning for a variety of, on a variety of issues.

He's not going to know, but that guy's not making content about it. Then you get these liberals who go around saying, did you know Charlie Kirk said this thing? And you're like, yeah, that's not like you're, that's factual but not truthful, to quote Michael Males. That's not literally the idea he was conveying, you know, you're misquoting him. And they're like, we don't care.

Because winning politically is all they care about in the first place. Yeah. The, like I said earlier, the vector of attack is all that matters. It's some way to set people on their back foot and capitalize on, you know, people's reaction to what they're saying, not the substance of a thing. There's an echo chamber fact to it. Like, they don't know, like, they expect you when you bring up the Epstein and Trump to be like, you said it perfectly. They expect you to reel and go, oh, my God, I didn't know when instead you say, actually, that's not true. What? And, they like and then but if you say oh that's not true then they just jump to you're defending you're a liar you're a fascist so you're making things up you're defending them so you approve of it so you're the same thing you're a pedophile how do you think and this is why i circled back how's it going to get when AI does more and more stuff well here's here's here's the issue do you think it will ever be possible to correct the these leftists i think no i think like this is the phrase i

say the word parent is a verb. And if they didn't teach you to think for yourself, you know, also what do we, how do we, so what do we do as a society when you realize, you know, 70, 70, what, 75 million people vote over Kamala Harris? You make the election too big to rig and don't let her win. No, no, no, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that half the country lives in a false reality. Yeah. And is animated by it to the point of calling for murder. No, no, hold on. I'll clarify. Not literally every single liberal is going on calling for murder. But when you've got a guy in Instagram calling for murder and it goes viral and he gets millions of views because the sentiment is shared. How do you function as a society? What do you do to deal with the fact that you've got

a political wing of your country that wants murder and death and they don't care if what they're saying is true? You don't, I don't want to say ignore them, but there's nothing I can do about these people. Like this is the world we live in. Should we manipulate them? What's that? Should we manipulate them? I say we just let them. I think 99% of them and it's just a big number, because of them, I think it's most of them. They're screaming into their Instagram. These people don't know how to live outdoors. Well, because you only need one person to kill Charlie Kirk.

Sure. So do we just say, well, you know, periodically, they will kill, you know, our friends, our community leaders and stuff. But, you know, what are you going to do about it? Well, yeah, nothing. Because whoever pulled that trigger, you can't stop someone. If someone wants to kill you, they're going to. But so like these people on Instagram that are going on a.

comedy stages and saying kill people, we should just let them do that? Yeah. Did any of us kill someone listening to this idiot? Like if that's what he's saying and he's getting paid for it, that's free speech. You know? So like the left should be allowed to advocate for killing conservatives. When you say advocate for killing. Like going on stage at a comedy club and telling the audience, is it a joke or is it a, is it a rally? It's a, it's, well, it's claptor. It's not really, it's not comedy. He should be allowed to. But I mean, it's the, it's the people. If people are dumb enough to watch. And that's on them. So what kind of, so what happens to your society then when you've got a third of your

population agreeing with an advocating for this, going on stage and an increasing rate producing more content advocating for killing people? That's an easy one. This, if that's going on, that's fine. But the people that are actually- What happens after that? I would simply say this again because what's going- So-

I'm looking at the people pulling the- the trigger. Now, I could say whatever I want, you know. But you're saying that when the left goes out and advocates for killing, they don't actually do any violence? No, it's the people that listen to them. If anyone listens to them and actually does that? Like, if you came here and started advocating for killing, I would look at you like, the guy's an idiot. The guy's an animal and we're not friends and I don't want to associate with them. But if you can advocate for killing and people are going to gather around you, okay. What do you do with like 10,000 people listen to a comedian go on stage and he says, you know, he wants to go kill people. And then it gets like 10 million

views on Instagram. And then 10,000 people say, let's go. And they go out and do it. First of all, 10,000 people are not going to go out and kill because that's a, that's a Guyana Hitler situation. I don't think, I think you're being disingenuous if you think 10,000 people are going to do that. So, I mean, how many people did we see riot in 2020? It was, what, like three million nationwide? Oh, yeah. And 30 plus people were killed. Yeah. Aaron Downson, and we shot twice in the chest for no reason. So yeah, they killed people. But we should just let them keep doing the rallies and keep advocating for us.

Well, we shouldn't have been allowing those. Well, it's funny, those protests went away when we shut down USAID. So this is just part of, you know, the government corruption of it that led to that. And, of course, this was during the summer of love when it was illegal to be outside at Thanksgiving with your family. But it was legal to do that. There's so many ways. Two things. First of all, Thanksgiving is in the fall, not the summer.

Second of all, that's the answer to, Tim's question is RICO charges and round them up and put them in jail. We're going to down. But this is the point. But it's the people committing the crime. The American liberal tradition cannot protect itself from the left. We lose. Thank you and have a nice day.

The argument is we cannot suppress the free speech of leftists who go on stage and rally for murder. Luigi Mangeny is a hero to these people. They have killed and they will kill again. But we should let them keep advocating for it. Okay. Then your end result will be your destruction and demise because American classical liberalism can't defend itself from authoritarianism. So you're saying if we let these,

you're saying eventually the left will kill everyone? I'm not understanding what you're saying. Do you know how many Bolsheviks there were at the beginning of 1917? I'm going to say no. 24,000. Okay. Do you know how many people lived in Russia in 1917? No. 175 million. Okay. And from that 24,000 Bolsheviks, they killed the Tsar and his children. First, they rallied throughout that one year and increased to 200 to 300,000. And in a nation of 175 million, it took only a single year to go from 24 to 200, let's say 300 and be on the high end, and then executed the Tsar, his children in cold blood and took the country over bringing about 70 years of mass death. And we can then talk about communist China. It takes a very small amount of people to be able to go out and run. And,

rally. Let me put it like this. New York City and all of its five boroughs has an estimated 30,000 police officers. About 10,000 are support. It might be like 38,000. And that's five boroughs. There's 2.5 million people, maybe less now because after COVID they moved up. So Manhattan's got around 2 million people. So if 10% of Manhattan, it's a big number, decided to rampage around smash things, there's no police who could stop them. That's 200,000. But let's be real. You don't even need 200,000 because that 30K is throughout the five boroughs. So if you had 1% of men in, 1% decided to go out and riot, 20,000 people, no one could stop them. Literally no one.

Okay. So if you got... So you don't think Trump could send in people like he did in L.A. like he did in, I think Chicago. Well, what happened in L.A. riots? They surrounded it and let the riots burn out. Okay. The point of making is if your society permits calls for assassination, your society will produce. assassinations. And it's funny because Charlie Kirk predicted all of this, and then they killed him.

My point is, I'm not suggesting I have a good answer. I don't like the idea of telling comedians. They can't tell jokes. But I will go so far as to say it should be criminal. Let's do this. We're going to jump to another segment, so I'll wrap up this segment by saying. It should be criminal to advocate for murder, period. Let me pull up this Instagram for you. I've got two Instagram for you. The problem with Instagram is you can't, so I'll just, I'll refresh it and then we'll play this clip. Okay. So here we go. We got to unmute it too.

We love Instagram, don't we? Can you believe there's billionaires? Isn't that crazy? I don't think we even understand how much a billion dollars. Can you believe there's billioners? Isn't that crazy? I don't think we even understand how much a billion dollars is 100 times a million is 100 million dollars. Ten times that is a billion. Why don't we all kill them?

Why are we killing them and living better lives? Isn't that weird we just let them live? You're like struggling and there's a guy out there and he's like, I have $10 billion. It's like, why don't we kill him? Why do you don't need $10 billion? Give me your fucking money, you asshole. I don't even have, I have to tip and you have $10 billion? I have credit card debt.

Fuck you. And I feel like a lot of you guys feel the same way and we can find a billionaire and kill them. I think it should be kind of like a like a, like if you get over, like you should be able to make a hundred million dollars. That's what you do. And if you get over, you just get killed. So it's like kind of a dangerous thing. And I almost made $99 million this year.

It's like, dude, you better be careful. They're going to stone you. Can you believe there's billionaire? There's another one. Let's play, let's play this one. And the first one's got a lot of views. This one doesn't have as many. But if you think all of the murder that happens in this country,

and just gear towards billionaires, it'll only take two weeks to kill all of them. It actually takes about a day. Yes. That might not be a punchline, but that's not a lot of time, right? What? Two weeks?

These are jokes? I'm not advocating for violence. I'm not advocating for more violence. I'm advocating for the exact same amount of violence we already have and just redirecting the target. That's it. So this is Clappter.

Yeah, and he's laughing at his own joke, the second guy, It's not a joke. Yeah. It's not a joke to go up on stage and say, hey, you know, there's a problem. Here's a solution. Jokes, I made this reference earlier. There's a guy who made a joke where he said he's pro-choice except in the instance of rape

because you could be removing superhumans. And he's like, hear me out. The beauty of the mother with the raw ambition of the father. I think it's Mark Norman who did that. His joke is that calling rape raw ambition is obviously an absurdity. And so we find humor in it. Going on stage and telling people what they already agree with that they want to murder billionaires, an example being Luigi Mangone is celebrated by many of these people in New York,

going up there and saying, hey, you know the thing you already want to do? Do it. And that everyone laughs and claps. These aren't jokes. A society that says this is what we enjoy and want more of is a society that goes around and kills people. And I think this should be a criminal charge. I think he should be criminally charged for advocating. For impersonating a comedian, he should be criminally charged.

Okay, this first guy, he should be charged because he's advocating people to commit a crime. He's on stage saying you should go commit a crime. And I disagree with that. He's telling people to go commit a crime. No, he's making a joke that's not funny and he's using the typical cadence of it. So people are, this is the problem with- It's not a joke. No, it's not a joke.

So, okay. But he's not serious. He's doing what so many- I think he is. I don't. I think he's doing what so many people in comedy do. They have the cadence, they have the mannerism, they internet. Why don't we just kill them?

They're billionaires. You don't want to get stuff. and people in the crowd are so acclimated. Well, we paid money. We should laugh. This guy stinks. Okay. And he's too,

no one is going to a comedy club to get incited to violence. Has anyone gone out and killed a wealthy person in recent history? That was at a comedy club and said that's where I got the idea. No, that doesn't do with what I asked. No, but that's what I said. But no one at a comedy club is doing this.

What does that do with comedy clubs? Because like, if this guy's doing this. This is an Instagram post that's seen by millions of people. Right. But if this, but it's at a comedy show. So what?

So, So what, so everything. It's not like he's starting a, he's not Charlie Kirk. He's not, uh, Syed. He's not, uh, Piker. He's a, he's a hack at a comedy club. Believe me, I'm an expert on that. He's a hack at a comedy club doing a stupid bit.

And if, and, and no one at the club's going to get incited to violence. I got, I got to stop you again. No one cares about a comedy club. This is a comedian on a social media post against a brick wall. Right. Speaking to hundreds of thousands and millions of people who are not at comedy clubs. but they know he's a comedian. So what?

So I don't think anyone, anyone that watch, I would argue, and this is me just going from my 57 years, maybe I'm crazy. I can't imagine anyone watching this saying, yeah, I'd kill them that was raised right, or that we can stop until he doesn't. Why did Louis Jemay and Jone kill Brian Thompson? Because he was angry. And do you think that there are people are- Because no one taught him not to kill?

And do you think there are lots of people on Instagram watching videos that are also angry and equally willing to kill? I'm sure there are some. And when they hear a man go up on stage and say, go kill them right now, go do it. So my argument simply is anyone that watches this and says, I'm going to go kill them, they're not right in the head. And that starts somewhere else. And I would start where I always start with these, let's go to Lindsay Clancy. It's these pharmaceutical things that muddy up the waters.

Do you think that they're crazy people out there that might kill but don't have the direction as to what to do and this might motivate them towards a certain direction? I doubt it, but I can't say for certain. Like the dude who said this guy when he said, take the normal amount of violence right to have it redirect in that direction. This guy, look at him. That's the perfect, don't even touch it. Look, he's, look, I've got funny hair. I'll wear a t-shirt. Look at my tattoo. He said nothing funny and he's laughing at his own jokes. So, anyone that listens to him is stupid. The question is, he told people to take the vows that already exists and direct it towards billionaires. So you really think this is a problem. Can you? It is a problem. You think it's a problem that comedians are saying things and people are acting on it. Well, the first thing I'll say is it's not comedy to go on stage and say, hey, go kill people. Sure. Those aren't jokes. No. Now, I understand people make the argument that if they laugh at it, jokes can take many forms. But I think this is a rally.

People aren't showing up to hear a guy, you know, tell a story about his life that is relatable and funny or absurd. Or to even talk politics. Like, you can do comedy where you say Trump's fat with tiny hands and everyone laughs because you're like, it's, we like to make fun of the guy. You can make fun of people. It's popular. To go up on saying, say, you know what? Why don't the first guy says, make your life better. kill that person.

There's no joke there. He's telling them what they've already posted online they want to do. So it's a rally. Now, when you have a society that tells people it is good, funny,

legal allowed to advocate for murder, you get murder. And you're tying this into these two guys at a comedy club. And by the way, how much guys went up

before and after them as well? Like, I'm not going to argue with you if you think that because I can't prove it. I can't disprove it. I just don't know of any examples. Why did Michael Reinal kill Aaron Danielson? Why did who?

Why did Michael Reinal kill Aaron Danielson? I don't know those two. Yeah, Michael Reinal had a communist. He had a BLM tattoo. Walked up to a Trump supporter. He had never seen before and put two in his chest. Why would you do that? Because he hated him.

But why would he hate him? What was he hearing? What was telling him to hate somebody? What information? Are you saying a comedian told him that? This will be my... Bro, are you joking right now? No.

I'm saying he heard things from somewhere. Sure. That incited him. Yes. And it got to the point where he decided he would kill somebody. I don't know if there's a way to win or lose this, but my point is everyone pulling the trigger. Uh-huh.

It got there somehow, whether it was poor parenting, whether it was meds. But like, if you have kids, raise them every day not to kill other people. If everyone raises their kids, and I know this is simplistic, but this is the only, and you can call me an idiot or, you know, naive. It's like saying the only way.

The only way. The only way. What's that? It's like saying tell rapists don't rape. Yeah, I know. They do, and they're gonna. Then once they do, put them in jail. Stop letting people out of jail like we do in so many places.

Like, they did that during COVID. They're like, oh, we have to let people out of jail. Start making hold people accountable. You think that- You think that- Anything in a heartbeat from a felony to a misdemeanor? Do you hear how they're cheering and clapping for killing people? At a comedy show.

Do you think that if someone went out and killed a billionaire, these people would clap or be sad? Oh, they might. Might clap. Might, they will. But they didn't do it. They watched the comedy show and they didn't do it. They'll start pointing at their neck and laughing at you.

Sure. And then they'll go online. They're idiots. They'll say, do it more. What's that? And they'll go online and they'll say do it more. Okay. And who will do it more?

More people who are. Yeah. But again, you're looking at, I could tell people to kill people. And if they do it, that's not on me. It is. No, it's not. It is. No, it's not.

Yeah, it is. So this will be the rest of the show. No, uh. If you tell someone to kill someone, you will be criminally charged for that. What? If you tell someone to go kill another person. If I pay them. No, no. So if I tell you, incitement to violence is a crime. It is, it is. So the limits of the First Amendment are creating a clear and imminent threat. If you tell a person, you go kill someone, you will be charged for that. Okay. That actually is a codified crime. So why aren't we putting people in jail for this?

Why aren't we putting rapists? Why are we letting people out of jail? Why is Mondani advocating for shutting down Alcatraz? Not Alcatraz. Sorry. The Rock. No, no, the Rock is Alcatraz. I'm thinking of Rikers.

Rikers, Rikers. Alcatraz, they want to re- I'm agreeing with you on this. Look, first of all, I don't care. I don't care who says what. Confused my prison islands. Yeah, maybe that's a good thing. I do care who says what.

And this is where we disagree. Because I firmly hold the person that pulls the trigger. That, you know, and that means something. something else in the case of rape. Let me give you another example. What if someone says your address is one tooth is a 732 evergreen terrace and then in front of a crowd of people and then a guy says, I wish someone would just go kill these these boomer comedians.

And then another guy says, hey, there's one and his address is 740, 732 Evergreen Terrace. You're like, that's totally fun. Yeah. You think that's totally fun. Yeah. And then when someone will kill me. Uh, well, someone, someone killed Charlie. Yeah, that's not fine.

So, so when someone finds your house that they otherwise would not have, right, and they said, I was told to do it. Yeah. Okay. And, and you think, you think a guy that goes, I was told to do it so I did it, that's not the problem. The problem is the guy that says, I don't like you. They're both a problem. What's that?

They're both a problem. The problem is the killer. It's not the person. Like, you, you have, we have free will. It's amazing. And no one is making you do it. Manjione is another one. People are like, oh, he's a hero.

No, he's a murderer. He's a murderer. This is why the right loses everything. Sure. Because what happens is... Because we were raised right and we can't stop someone from doing something wrong. Because the right is afraid of power. The right is afraid to use power.

The left is not. So the right will say something like, I don't want the government telling people they can't advocate for things. It's the trigger man who's the problem. Yeah. And what's the result of that? Young conservatives say, I won't speak up because I'll be the next Charlie and I don't want to die.

I disagree with you. And the reason why the left is doing the next thing is because they want, as as Destiny stated on his show, prominent liberal, you know Destiny? You know Destiny is the liberal guy? Prominent liberal commentator, millions of followers. He said conservatives need to fear being murdered so they stop. So they go to their Republican politicians and they tell them to stop. And you are saying, yes, it is good the left terrorizes the right into hiding. Look, I'll believe you.

but I don't know, like, I don't know if this destiny is, like, but I don't know of one conservative that's afraid of being killed by these people. Is that a joke? No. Do you have any idea what it's been like since Charlie was murdered? No. The millions of dollars we've been spending

because the death threats we get every day, how many conversations I've had to have with the FBI? No. Yeah, it's bad. I believe you. It's very bad. Okay. And the intention is to make sure we cannot stop them.

Because when they post a picture of your child and your address, you're like, I have a choice to make. They killed Charlie. They've sent me a threat saying, I'm next. And now they know where I live. We had someone drive by our property in December, opened fire on the property. So when you say, let the left go on stage and say, kill these people, they will.

And the intention is terror. It is terrorism. Everything you're saying is terrible, Tim. But it's the people pulling the trigger. We could have this conversation for hours. Like, you can't take away someone's right. to speak. The person who is creating the terror is not the person pulling the trigger. The trigger man happened and it's happened in the past. The terrorism comes from a prominent left-wing personality

who advocates for your death and your family's death. That's the terror. Then you see 10,000 comments saying, yes, yes, kill him. And then what you have to do is you have to spend a million bucks on security and relocate from your property and hire armed guys to walk around your property because you get swatted 20 times. Okay. So what is your answer? Because this is something you're living? The answer is a guy goes on stage and says kill people. He gets arrested. You take this guy offstage, this hack comedian who's not funny and no one's listening to him on this stage. And you're equating this guy to the terrible thing. Now let's just pause real quick when you said no one listens to him. He's got 100,000 likes on his post. And try again and start over. What's just? Who is he?

What's his name? Ben? I don't know. Exactly. What does that matter? Because in my opinion, a like on social media doesn't translate into knowing who they are. People will doom scroll. They'll be like, oh, that's cute, and they'll hit it, and they'll keep going. There are people that you know. Like, when you brought up that the rape thing, I'm like, oh, that's a Mark Norman joke because he's funny.

And I know he is. And, you know, he's a guy that can say something like that. And you know he's not encouraging that act. Don't you feel like if there are enough people, like, if you sit there and you do scroll, and there are people that say these kind of things your feed will end up getting filled with similar types of content. Yeah.

Do you think that those people have a responsibility or should be held accountable for making this kind of these kind of comments? Because again, if you're on social media, you're going to be inundated with that stuff. If you're liking leftist comments like that and things that are violent. I can't argue with you, but I'm saying,

this is how I was raised and this is how we look at things. Like you can say terrible things. could put terrible things in the comments, but the people acting on it are the problem. And the thing Tim's tell me about terrible. And if they can't find that guy, that's also terrible. There are people that it's their job to find these people making these threats. Yeah. And the point is, there's one on stage. But that's not, in my opinion, that's not a threat. That's a hack comedian. So when a guy goes on stage and tells the audience to kill someone, it's not. How often does it happen? What's the What's the difference between like a guy staying on a street corner saying go kill them now?

And a guy going on stage and going, you should kill him now. Yeah. There's really, the only difference is I don't see people listening to either one. Like, I don't. Well, I mean, but just the fact that people have gone out and committed acts of political violence, that kind of is. Here's what we can agree on. Violence is wrong. But we're disagreeing on where we're drawing the line.

and again, I draw the line at the person committing the act. You are trying to draw the line. I'm just, I'm just, I'm, oh no, but I'm saying like, am I wrong. Again, these guys, as a comedian, I look at them like, they're nothing. They're like, we don't know their names. And the kid with the hair laughing at his own jokes, who probably will have a sitcom before me. So is the, is the context of them being a comedian, like, that's, that, that should be acceptable.

but then if you're someone that's, that's say, at a political rally, saying, hey, these people are bad, we need to go after them, we need to kill them, etc. Yeah, so it is. I mean, if someone's saying that at a political rally, that's completely different than the comedy. So the context. You'd agree. Okay. Well, that's what I'm asking. I don't agree at all.

Really? Because that's not a comedy show. Those aren't jokes. It's Claptor. I agree with that. So there's no distinction. Well, no, I think Clafter makes it more. Well, you say that again, but again, it's got 100,000 likes.

That's the point. Again, but just hitting the like, just hitting the like on Instagram is a meaningless action in a lot of situations. And I just feel like this is not actually addressing the point that I'm making. The point I'm making is. There are a lot of people that agree with it, that they've posted online and agree with it. They dress up like Luigi. They do movie tours when they're asked, who's their favorite Luigi? They say Luigi Mangione.

Sure. They advocate for murdering people and then people get murdered. By the person pulling the trigger. stabbing or whatever. And this is my only answer. It's I will always put it on the person committing the act. Right. And I think the issue is I would assume you don't have enough experience in the political space

to know like we spend over a million dollars plus maybe more every year because of this. Because of the people on stage saying go kill them. Not because of an individual who has like actually robbed him with a knife. It's that the moment someone makes a threat on stage, we immediately have to spend more of our resources instead of doing shows, having debates, putting on events for our fans, I have to hire three more guys with guns.

And what I'm saying is these are the only two comedians, and I say that with quotes, that I've ever seen do a bit on killing people. Yeah, well, there's probably like 50 videos that I could have pulled up, but I thought two was enough for the show. Right, sure. So I'm saying they're not.

Here's a clip. I shout out the crime statistics. Not exactly like... I need, you need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature. The issue is right now, they don't feel like there's any fear. Like, I don't know, I don't know. It's like memes.

It's just memes to everybody, I guess. I don't know, bro. I don't care. I'm playing video games. This was five days after Charlie was murdered. Who are they? Bro. Who is Destiny? Yeah, that's one of the biggest liberal streamers in the world. Well, I'm still on the Hassan Piker thing.

I don't know who. Yeah, he's, he's, he's, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, He and Hassan don't get along, but Hassan's bigger than he is. I recently debated destiny because I want to turn the volume down. But yeah, there's him going to his followers saying conservatives must fear dying. So how am I supposed to do this job and advocate for what this country should stand for if they will kill me or threaten my family and I can't afford it? See, that's okay. There's only one thing to be said.

The right deserves to lose. They deserve to lose. I never said they did. They are unwilling to use power to stop. the threats of violence and murder against them, they will either, and not all of them, but if your position is, the left should be allowed to go on their shows and advocate for murder, the right will lose. That's it. The left has no problem, killing people, advocating for killing, lying, defaming, destroying memorials to Charlie Kirk, going around and making

sure that people hate Charlie so much, they would actually kill him without even knowing what he stood for. And I'm not saying, don't let a liberal go. and lie about Charlie Kirk. I'm saying the line is when they go on stage and laugh and say, go kill those people. I'm like, yeah, that's elite. Like, those people, they should be arrested for that. See, I see that you're angry about this. And like, if that's what you think the answer is letting them win.

How is it letting them win? You're saying they're winning because we're not doing anything to stop them from speaking violently. Well, they've built a culture and economy around telling people to murder and they're murdering. And they've been murdering for years because there's an economy. around it. And we take that economy away. We ban them for doing it and we arrest them when they incite people. And then we say you cannot succeed in our country if you think, if you think you can go and advocate on stage for killing people. If you want to ban a streamer that I never heard of,

and I know he's huge in liberal circus and two hack comedians, I have no problem with that. You know, because we're not talking about this and I don't know how many times I can say it. These are just a couple of examples I pulled up for the context on the show. So when you keep then playing the straw man of it's just two people, like you're not actually arguing anything. No, I'm not arguing anything because I've never heard of these people. And again, I'm saying I'm a broken record. Like I will blame the people pulling the trigger. That's it.

I think the reason why like. I don't know where else to draw the line, Tim. On the people advocating for killing. But that's your free, like. You don't have free speech to advocate for killing. Okay. Well, then. Okay.

Then stop them. That's what I said. So we agree? I guess so. Yeah, when the guy says kill someone, you say off the stage, you're under, you know, that's a criminal offense. Are you saying these two hack comedians? Plus more, sure. The other ones I'm sure I never heard of.

Every single one. The point is when you have people that are making, again, that's why I brought up, you know, when you're going through your feet, it's not just about these two guys. It's about people that have essentially made the, basically they're making the argument that it's acceptable to kill people. that you, that you'll be celebrated for it. You will be rewarded on social media with more followers for it. You will be put on prayer candles for it and women will want to sleep with you. You hear people saying things like eat the rich, that guy's talking about, why are they billionaires?

We should just kill them. Like the idea that if you're a successful person, someone like Jeff Bezos or who's, who's a hundred million. Yeah, he did. But if you're wealthy enough to fall in the crosshairs, that it's acceptable to kill you. This is the whole mindset that Luigi Mangione had. And there are a lot of people that agree with that. And now, granted, there hasn't been a string of murders of wealthy people, but the more you hear

people talk like this, the more that it's going to become acceptable in the minds of a certain segment of the population. And so at what point do we say, all right, look, we need to have government step in and say this kind of behavior, this kind of rhetoric. actually is leading to more, is leading to violence or could lead to violence. It's a simple point. If a guy on stage is being clapped, they're clapping for him when he says kill people, there's going to be some guy who says, they will clap for me if I do it too.

And then he goes and does it, and they clap for him. And then what happens? Another person says, I want to be famous. I want people to clap for me. And they do it too. It's like, why do we have social media trends? Why did people pour ice buckets on themselves? Because everybody was doing it and getting cheered for as they did.

Likes. They were getting likes. Indeed. And so when a guy goes on stage and says, kill people and gets likes, what's going to happen? Another guy's going to go on stage and say kill people and get likes. And then you're going to get a bunch of people sitting crowds laughing, being like, why isn't anyone doing it? And then they will do it.

And then you get... And then you get Luigi Mangione, who does it. Yeah. And they raise money for... How much has he raised? Has he raised? Like a million bucks? Got to be over a million. Wow.

So they're cheering for it, they're advocating for it, and they're giving money to it. Yet maybe we should stop these people. But it's the people giving money that are the idiots. Like, this is capitalism. If you're telling me I can make money saying it, now I wouldn't do it because I have morals. But capitalism is about furthering the business, about making money. So of course these idiots are going to do it. But the bigger idiots are the ones that are like, yeah, who raised these people that were just, that we're just glazing over saying, well, people are going to kill them.

but these guys that are saying kill people for clicks, they're the problem? I don't know that it's, I don't know it's a question of the way the people were raised. I mean, that guy's a full-on adult. What's that? That guy's a full-on adult. He knows what he's doing. And, well, the point is these arguments aren't being made by just teenagers who don't understand what a billion dollars is or what it takes to become. So I made a great point about Radio Rwanda.

The Rwandan genocide was largely driven by a society that, There was a TV show that played this. I can't remember what it was. But they were talking about how, on the radio, who was it, it was the, what was the name of the tribe that got massacred? Tootsie. Tootsie. Houthis.

The Tootzees, I think. On the radio, they would say things like, you know, how many, you know, tutsis would take screw in a light bulb. None, you got to shoot him dead and then do it yourself. They would say things like that. Then one day everyone went outside and just killed them. because it was the joke, it was your culture, you were supposed to. And what they did was every day they went out and said, shouldn't we hate these people?

People started to hate them. Well, it's even closer because what they were doing was they would have who to officials die for whatever reason, war, whatever, they would die. And then they would go on the radio and say, the Tutsis had these people killed. They assassinated him, et cetera. So that's kind of what he's doing here is where he's saying. Actually, the violence is pointed towards the left. And that's why we should respond. Well, that's what they do. They say billionaires shouldn't exist because they're evil.

They fundamentally don't understand the system how money is made or you don't make $100 million in a year. Your net worth can no one literally nobody, nobody does that. That's not how it works. Nobody, there's very few people who make, I think it's something like a few thousand people in the country make more than a million dollars in cash per year. And the average millionaire I like to talk about makes $160,000 per year salary. most of the wealth we see is generated because they held an asset that accrued in value for some reason, like a stock or otherwise. We have a culture right now of people who are clapping and cheering for murdering people. If we don't say there's a line, people will die. And guess what?

They have already. From the lesser-knowns, like a guy walking down the street like Aaron Danielson, to the better-knowns like Charlie Kirk, who was simply talking. But they had routinely said to kill him, and then someone decided to do it. So a guy who goes on in social media and says kill people to a million people. you don't even need 1% of them to react and then they go and do it. I think we should hold those people responsible. Well, I'm telling you, I said this at the beginning.

If you're going to talk about social media, yeah, fine, shut it down. But again, I'm telling you it's the... So you're saying that social media overall is the problem more than the things that people are saying? No, you guys are saying all these things are the problem. I'm saying the problem is the guy pulling the trigger. That's what I'm always going to say.

But again, you know my thoughts on social media. What if it's like 10 guys pulling triggers? Is it 10 guys pulling triggers? Like when Antifa roamed around Portland with rifles stopping traffic and threatening That wasn't from social media. Well, what about when Antifa literally attacked an ice facility and shot a bunch of rounds up? And I hate Antifa. Where are they getting their motivation from?

Where do they learn the things they learn? I think from the mainstream media. I think from liberal news. That's not where Antifa is getting their information. They're getting it from. If you ask me, that's where I think they are. Right. Like the Trump administration just shut down this Italian network that was providing back

like a, like, I don't know what the right way describe it is, but it's not black market, but, you know, cloud services and servers for, for, uh, dark communications, essentially. And, uh, do things. So you're a 15 year old kid and you grew up in the suburbs of, you know, insert urban area. How does that person turn into a guy who shows it to an ice facility with a rifle and shoots a cop? I would say the liberal media. I would say the, the, the indoctrination of schools right now. They're allowing.

Well, they want to take up. the 9-11. Do you realize they want to make 9-11 one paragraph in the books in the school books? So what is being told to a kid that makes them think they need to actually end a life? Again, and now this is where I get back into the parent thing. Like who raised these kids that they can... Public school system? Yeah. Well, there you go. So like, what do you think could be said to a 15-year-old that would turn them from a kid who plays video games into a kid who gets a rifle, goes to a nice facility and shoots a cop? We need to put more kids in jail for what they do. But like, how does that happen?

How does that happen? Like a kid who's playing basketball doesn't one day just go, oh, I got to go commit a crime. Like information is presented to them, right? Yes, and who's it filtered through? So, Instagram? What about their parents saying, hey, don't listen to these people.

Hey, you're a man, act like a man, be accountable for your actions. I'm sorry if my view is too simplistic in a world that's run by social media. And feminism, the question is, The point is actually quite simple. A person does not adopt an ideology they don't know exists. Classical liberalism had to have been discovered before people started to adopt these ideas.

The kids who become leftists who take guns to eyes, fill aided and shoot people had to be told to do it. Maybe they joined a gang. So in the gang, someone told them to do it, right? Sure. So Antifa recruits. But again, you join a gang because you don't have a strong parental figure at home. How does Antifa recruit? I don't know.

Comedy clubs like that. Oh, come on. That's how Antifa recruits. Bartley, yeah. I disagree. You're wrong. Okay. Then I'm wrong.

You are. Like, how do you, then how can you prove you're right? Well, would a subject matter expert be enough for you? Like, if a guy was like, I spent 10 years on the ground with these people, went to their rallies and meetings where they organized a recruit people, would that be sufficient evidence to you? Without a doubt. That's me. That's me. So what are you telling me?

I was at a comedy show and they said we should kill people. and then I look to join this club? Yes. Oh, look, that sounds insane to me, but I'm not going to argue. Because you're intentionally straw manning what's happening, because you, instead of engaging with what is going on, you're just deciding to reject it on emotion. There's nothing to engage with.

I told you what I think. So what they do is the purpose, or I should say the fortuitousness of a guy going on stage and saying kill people, is that the direct action groups, various activists networks, some of whom are paid through NGOs that receive money from various other liberal organizations, which does include Soros Foundation, Open Society, they will go to these clubs and say, what did you think of the comedian? They'll say he was fantastic.

And they'd be like, I love that billionaire bit, right? And like, yeah, I know. Like, dude, billionaires are awful. Hey, we're doing a meeting. You want to come by? It's at the Deutsche Bank pops. So we're going to be setting up and we're going to be doing like direct action stuff. You want to make a difference.

Come on down. Then they go on down. And then what happens? That's how they recruit. Then the guy shows up to events and they smash windows and start fires and beat people. Right past, if you said that to. I'm a comedian, believe it or not. And I've been at these clubs for 25 years, okay?

And never, never, like, never have I had a comic be like, oh, I'm doing this great bit about killing people, okay? These aren't real comedians. And secondly, 99.9% of the people I know, just because there might be one, when you said, hey, what did you think of that killing? It's great.

You want to come to a meeting? No one would say I want to go to a meeting. So again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying everything you're saying is out of my purview, for lack of a better word. And you can call me a straw man, but there's a disconnect between, you like that killing bit? Yeah, boy, do I have a club for you? There's not.

So maybe I am a straw man. Well, I'm not calling you a straw man. You're making a straw man, right? The straw man is when I say, here's a couple of examples of leftist comedians advocating for murder. And you go, so only two people said it. Right. That's a straw man, right? And that's when.

50, but I don't know any of these people. The straw man is when you falsify my argument that it's easy to argue against. Right. The argument is it has become particularly prominent on social media to advocate for murdering people. You then counter with, that's only two people. Sure. We're not arguing only two people. In my defense, that's how insane these clips.

Like, that's how often I would notice a clip like this. Because again, like I would argue, and again, you could say whatever the lingo the kids uses, that when I see this, I glaze over it because it doesn't even register. Do you know, you want to know one of the biggest recruiting techniques that was used by the activist during act by Wall Street? Of course. They told everybody at the local universities that Radiohead was going to play for free in Zucati Park. And about 3,000 people showed up. And if I went to see, we'll make it, Sarah McLaughlin, kidding, that's an inside joke from, if I went to see them and they weren't there, I wouldn't be like, wow. You got me.

Now sell me on some socialists. And that's not what happened. They all stayed. Every single person sat down and stayed for the communist direct action meeting. But see, I would, if I would. You would do a lot of things. The point is they're recruiting, it works, they're expanding. Stop them.

All those people. So you can't stop someone from spreading a rumor that Radiohead's going to play. That's just how evil these people are. Sure. But you can't arrest a guy for inciting violence because incitement is a crime. I don't know why anyone would go to be promised to see Radiohead. Like, it's too such polar opposites to me. It's like, hey, we lied, but you want to hear some communist speeches?

Sure, we're here. Hey, the room's paid for. It's funny. And they did it. And they stayed. Like, I'm not disagreeing with you. Look at this one. I love it.

Radiohead is not playing Occupy Wall Street confirmed. And they all showed up. Let me see if there's any big photos of it. I was sitting there. It was absolutely hilarious. So what did they say? What was, Tim, seriously, what's the transition from? We lied about one of the hottest rock bands of that era.

Still to this day, even. They're not here. And now, but if you want to sit, we're going to tell you how, like, you know, billionaires are evil. Do you right? So what they did was once everyone was sitting around in Zuccotti Park, one of the facilitators went to the middle and went, Mike check. And then everyone yells Mike check back. And the people who don't know what's going on don't say mic check. And the guy then says, when I say mic check, you say mic check. Everyone, then 3,000 people all say mic check. They then say, this is how, this is how we communicate, we communicate with no electronics. The real reason they do it is because it's a cult building exercise to get people to chant whatever it is you're saying. Sure. So everyone's sitting there waiting for Radiohead.

The guy comes up and does the mic check and tells them what to say. And then says, before Radiohead gets here, let's talk. And they do their tirade. So they're waiting for Radiohead. They haven't been told they're not there yet. And then they say things like, I know all of you didn't come here just for a free concert because you're not bad people, right? Yeah. Of course, you're a good person. You came here because you care about justice, right? Yeah. Indeed, welcome to the fight, brother. And then radiohead never shows up.

Sure. And everyone's sitting there for 45 minutes. Yeah. This is what they do. Yeah. And again. And it works. And now I'm not saying ban them from doing that. Just evil people are going to be evil. I'm laughing and how clever it is. And the way you're doing, I'm like, I'm like, you answer. I said, and you know what Fox did? You know what Fox does? At the time, Sean Hannity just makes. fun of them. When Occupy started, there were conservatives there. It was kind of just a hodgepodge. And instead, they made sure to insult any conservative who showed up. This is why I say, the right is going to lose. You know, I'm not, I'm not interested in getting mad at this stuff anymore because there is no opposition. There is a right wing that has a small faction of, yeah, we have to enforce our moral worldview. Otherwise, it'll be destroyed. But the overwhelming majority of

moderate right and even liberals are like, we literally don't care, let them do it. So the left goes out and shoots Charlie Kirk and what happens? They go on, they go online and lie and defend the killer, not even just people on the left. They make up conspiracy theories to discredit. Like you had the most prominent conservative, everyone agrees with the line for the presidency, assassinated. And within a few weeks, the left was like, nah, the left didn't do it. even though Charlie had literally said like days before like I got to be careful the left's trying to kill me even though we at Timcast had been swatted some 15 times with several bomb threats we've had the bomb robot deployed multiple times we know all of that's happening the left says we have to make

sure nobody thinks it's us and they did same the end with andy no and he was mercilessly beaten left covered in blood it was really bad for the left because it was one of the first times you could not ignore the degree of violence the left was engaging in. So where we are now is actually fascinating. And I think this is a great point for everybody listening. When Andy Noe was mercilessly beaten, CNN covered it. And they were pressured into covering it. And Brian Stelter begrudgingly was like, no, no, no, no, like we oppose violence, you know. But they had all been ignoring that the far left had been mercilessly beating people. Still, when Andy was beaten, it was a bad thing. And they were forced to say, stop, stop, stop. And now they go on stage, on TV, on comedy shows, and say,

kill them. And they clap and they cheer. And the media no longer recoils. It has been normalized now on the left that advocating for violence and murder is actually a good thing. Luigi Mangone is a hero. Women dance in front of the camera saying they want to sleep with them. And there's a bunch of young guys who are like, okay, I'm on board. They go on stage at comedy clubs and say, you want 100,000 likes on your post? Here's how you do it. So you're going to get more of it, and it's Radio Rwanda. How much longer until another person gets shot and killed? A guy drove past our property open fire on us. Should we just sit back and say, it's okay that they do this? I just don't see it in that, like, what you're saying,

I agree with you. Like, and it seems like you have a real problem here with that because you're a bigger name person. But what you're saying about these comedy clubs, like, I don't see with, like, there's a difference between comedy clubs in New York City and L.A. And people that get on stage, neither, neither, I didn't know either of those. think I could walk into that comedy club? What comedy club? What do you think what do you think what do you think what comedy club? I don't know what comedy club that is because that's just some guy every comic this is what we talk about. Okay, let's try again. What's that? Whatever that room was, do you think I could walk in there? I think you could walk into that club. You'd be wrong.

Okay, then I'm wrong. You're dead wrong. I'm wrong a lot, but you're asking me, do I think? So can I? Do I think you can? Yeah, because every comedy club I've been in is a comedy club where people go to laugh, not get indoctrinated, not to complain. What do you think would happen if Tim Poole walked into that club? I don't know. I'm going to say this again to get the point across. I don't know where that club is. Who cares?

Well, here's why I care. Because these are, this is the difference between social media and real life. And those guys would never get booked again for those sets, unless they're doing some open mic or bring or show. That was the page of the comedy club that posted it. Okay. So again, could Tim Poole walk into that club with that audience and that guy on stage?

What comedy club was it? Oh, I don't have it pulled up anymore. You understand? Like, it's not that prominent a club. Like, you would know if it was the seller. The point, I think the point that Tim's getting at is, could Tim go in there with that audience? It doesn't matter the actual club. If you're saying, can he go in while that guy's on stage?

Well, yeah, if, if. Bell House, New York. The Bell House. Oh, that's in like Brooklyn. That's so liberal. Yeah, you think I could, what do you think would happen if I walked in that room? Well, if you walked in that room during his set and they're like, that's Tim Poole, conservative. commentator? They'd boo you. I think you'd be okay. It's Brooklyn. They're all like hippies.

Well, you'd be wrong. Okay. I'd be wrong. Apparently, you don't even need to ask me these questions. You know the answers. Well, I'm... Well, why do you think they would only boo me? Because again, it's Brooklyn. They're all hipsters. Are there people in Brooklyn who do direct actions and ANTFA-related work? Not at that club, not the Bell House. There are. Okay, then there are. It's Brooklyn. It's, it's... There's a difference. between Bell House, that hipster club, and, you know, like Bedstuy? Uh-huh. And do you think people in bedstide go to Bell House? Not the dangerous ones, no. So Brooklyn, which is probably the highest density in the particular hipster areas, the hipster areas are the highest density

of DSA leftists, right? Sure. Where else would they be? They're not going to be in Omaha. Sure. Some might. So why would Bell House not be one of the best? of the densest area of leftist activism. Because it's a comedy club. Where he's saying kill billionaires and they're all laughing about it. Okay, okay. Where are we going with this, Tim?

I'm just, you know, it seems like you have an emotional aversion to everything we're seeing, no matter what the circumstances are, your answer is it's not happening. No, I'm not saying it's not happening. Wait, I'm saying what's not happening? Like, we literally got to the point

where we asked if Tim Poole could walk into a Brooklyn Comedy Club safely and you were like, yeah, you'd be fine. Because I'm like the guy who just got shot at, like. I'm saying a vague Brooklyn Comedy Club. I'm talking about a place I've been. I've seen the crowd and that's all I'm trying to get to communicate here. Right. Like again, like, I don't know.

Look, I'm just saying like, I think the people pulling the trigger are to blame. I'm saying in my 25 years of doing stand-up, I've never seen a room get worked up and be like, oh, we have to kill billionaires. I'm saying when you told me the story, that's not a worked up room, Tim. I said when you told me the story about how people like Soros Funded, meet people after the shows, I didn't say no way. I said, no, no. You literally said, I've never seen that happen.

I don't know anyone who's ever done anything like that. Right. But then when you said, you said, this is what they do. I didn't say you were lying. I'm like, oh my God, that blows me away because this is not the comedy world I've seen in my 25 years. It's blowing me away the stuff you're telling me. I'm not saying you're lying. Yeah, like the radio had stuff.

Yeah, when you told me the radio and stuff, I was engaged. I find that fascinating and very believable. And it's still what they do. Yeah. So I would just say that the expectation, if I went to that place, I'd probably be stalked immediately. And if I didn't have security with me, I'd probably be attacked physically. Like Andy Noe was chased through the street and had to hide in a hotel where they tried to kick him out because they were trying to murder him. They were trying to beat him to death.

Yeah. So, yeah, the people who are in a room cheering and laughing saying kill billionaires, these are the same. people that are protesting in the street, throwing Maltafs, smashing windows, lighting cars on fire. It's a large group. Now, there's, there's, there's, it's, there's, it's, there's, it's, there's, there's, it's, some of these people will march, but they won't throw a bottle. But, uh, I'd be curious to ask, you know, like, Phil, what do you think would happen if Andy Noe walked into the bell house? Well, I mean, I assume you probably get attacked, yeah. I think, I think we have an example. Remember when a lot got chased out of that bar?

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. Geez. And a lot's not even that famous. No. A lot, uh, is a, uh, a reporter who we contract and he was at a bar in Brooklyn and they threatened him and chased him out physically. So like, you know, again, to my point, I think if the, if the United States right is a faction of people that is split between comedians should be allowed to advocate for killing people and they shouldn't, but the left is 90% in agreement. Let them do it because you've got the default libs being like, ah, it's a comedian, who cares? And the left going, yeah, we like it. Well, then the equation is very simple.

I referred to this as, what was the name of the Arde? Was that his name? Ardae, yeah. Yeah, Ardae's wager. I posted this on X. If you are a liberal and the left wins, you're good. If you're a liberal and the right wins, you're good. I mean, you may not like their policies.

If you're a conservative and the right wins, you're good. If you're a conservative on the left wins, you're dead. You will die. So this wager says to the normie, to the moderate, best to shut the F up or pretend to be liberal so I don't get killed. This is the terrorism of when they go on stage and say, kill them. It means that the closeted Trump supporter or conservative knows if anyone ever finds out, look, the right's not doing anything about it. The right is split between people like with your position saying, let them do it. Let them advocate for murder. It's a joke. Who cares? It's comedy club. So the Normie conservative or the young teenager says, I don't want to be murdered like Charlie was.

And I see people on the right saying it's okay that they're advocating for my murder. So I just won't get involved. But what I'm saying is as a comedian, and again, when you told me these things, they amaze me. As a comedian, I'm like, I'm not saying let them advocate for murder. I'm saying let them do these terrible jokes because no one's listening to them. and then you're telling me stories of how Souros people are taking them to radio head concerts, which amaze me, and I'm proud to say, I have no idea that's going on. That's not something I worry about. But again, I'm all for beating the crap out of these hippies, these protesters, these Antifa people in the streets. I'm all for arresting them and punishing them to the full extent of the law.

Well, again, so the interesting issue where we find ourselves right now is that you don't have the manpower for that. Like I was saying, you only got 30,000 NYPD cops. They're a constrained force. They've been partially defunded, you know, during the COVID era. And they're facing down a political apparatus that wants them to be gone. So what we ended up seeing in Seattle was the police sided with Antifa. There was a video where a guy was physically attacked by Antifa and the cops arrested him. And the cops apologized to Antifa.

There is the 90-day bombardment of the federal building with explosives and Molotovs, and the mayor came out and joined Antifa. Why? They had the political power. So if you go to a teenager, who's witnessing injustice, and you tell him, we allow the left to advocate for the murder of the right and for people we don't like. He's going to say, well, I'm not going to speak up. We watch them engage in violence. We watch them kill and they get away with it every single time.

There's no comparable right-wing violence manifesting. Doesn't exist. Not at all. In response to Charlie Kirk's death, not a single riot. But a drug addict woman abusing guy who was chewing on a speedball and tried to buy something with counterfeit money, they riot across the country and they kill 30 people in his name. Yeah. And that's terrible. Yeah. So I think the problem you have is when you get to the point where social media has mass decentralized, you know, you end up with thousands or tens of thousands of people advocating for murder, there's no one to stop.

when your society says you can go on stage and say kill people, more people will do it. And then the entire meta of comedy on the left is kill people. And then the kids grow up being told kill people. And they say, okay. Okay. And everything you're saying fine. But this is very social media influence to me because, again, 25 years in New York. And never has it stood out like, like, you said it like, oh, that comic did a bit about killing people.

I cannot remember one time in my 25 years where I'm like, oh, that was such a good bit about killing people. But you get these guys that we'll never hear of, that I've never heard of, we'll never see on a stage, not even like kill Tony doing this. But social media makes it seem like it's mainstream, right? It's a question of like wealth tax, for instance, right? Like, wealth tax doesn't make sense. It's literally like saying we should release unicorns to deal with our mosquito problem. I've always said that. You're like, what?

anybody who knows anything about money knows like, first of all, unicorns don't exist, and what would they do about mosquitoes even if they did? Do they have mosquito powers? Wealth tax makes no sense because you can't get asset, you can't get liquid cash from somebody just because of an imaginary value placed on an asset, especially when they're not legally allowed to sell that asset. Now, where did that idea come from? And why do so many leftists keep saying it over and over again? It's because they go on social media or they go to clubs or they go to rallies or they hear a politician, someone tells them. They don't think critically. They just parrot it. And then you get 3,000 people marching in the street screaming wealth tax, where they may as well be screaming

unicorns. And politicians know they can't deliver on that because it's not possible. So Democrats say, who cares? Stupid people are easy to manipulate and they'll manipulate and say, vote for me and I'll get you what you want. And then they don't do it. Like they don't codify abortion or anything like that. The right then takes the opposite approach and says outright, that doesn't work and it won't work. And the political messaging, like I'm largely fine with call them out for lying, explain the truth. So the left responds with, kill them. And half of the right goes, that was fine. They should be allowed to say that.

And then Charlie Kirk is murdered. And then Aaron Downson gets shot. He wasn't even a famous guy. He's just some random guy walking down the street. He was a Trump supporter. He was wearing like a Trump shirt or something. So the commie shot him twice in the chest and killed him. That's just it.

Now, why did that commie think he needed to kill a guy? Well, he saw the Trump shirt somewhere so he knew what Trump was. Because if a guy was walking around with a Winston shirt, nobody would think twice because they don't know what that means. But the guy is seen on TV over and over and over again that Trump supporters are fascists, that fascists must be stopped. And if you don't stop fascists, you get Hitler and Trump is Hitler. So what did you do?

Saw a random guy and put two in his chest. See, there's millions upon millions people on both sides. I see Kamala Biden stickers all the time. I don't want to kill them. Agreed. The right doesn't go around killing people. The left does. It's almost like, but what's the difference?

The right doesn't advocate for murder, advocates against it. the left advocates for murder and the right lets them. So if the right advocated for murder, do you think we'd listen to them? Some people probably yes. I disagree. You don't think out of the 77 million people who voted for Trump, not a single one would decide to go and kill somebody. Why doesn't the right advocate for murder? Typically there's a Christian moral framework around the successful individuals in the space.

Now we're getting to a point where we can agree, which is closer to my, yes, there's a Christian moral framework. there's a higher power that you listen to, whether it be God or your parents or someone that instills moral values in you. So again, this gets back to the parenting. I said this. Parenting is immaterial to the question of a guy walking up Darren Downson and putting two in his chest.

That guy was like... I think parenting is... That guy was like 60 years old. So, okay. So he had wonderful parents and then something happened. Perhaps. I thought it was okay to kill? I mean, do you think it's possible then in the four...

Actually, I think the guy might have been in his 50s. I don't know how old he was. But I mean... High. He didn't live with his parents, presumably. since he was a teenager. So most of his life development happened outside in various circumstances.

Yeah, same for me. So his parenting don't have a lot to do with it. I don't know what you wanted to kill people to do with the fact that a guy killed a guy. Because you can't stop people from killing people. No matter what, someone will always want to kill someone. And look, I'm not disagreeing with you, but the party of...

Let's just simplify this. Sure. Do you think if the entirety of our media said, kill people, people would be advocating, would be motivated to kill. Some would, of course. And that's what I'm talking about is happening. And do you think if you increase the volume

of advocacy for murder, you'd get more murder? Yeah. And that's what I'm talking about happening. Perhaps we should stop. Comedy clubs, which blows my mind, Tim. Is it that you're scared that comedy clubs, like, you think comedy clubs are special and outside the law or something? No, no.

I think anyone doing this isn't a real comic. But what does that have to do with a person saying kill people. Nothing. I think that's the problem. Like what jobs are exempt from the incitement law? I guess none. But my point,

I'm getting defensive of you saying these guys are comics that are inciting. I'm like, these are just idiots on stage. And again, no one's like leaving that comedy club. Well, I never, I never made it a point of the argument that they're comedians.

No. Okay. My point is there are guys who are telling people on stage to kill and they're clapping for it. Yeah. So we should arrest them. Fine. And I'm real.

I don't care if you. these people. They're just cholesterol on stage. Maybe that's where the disconnect was. I was getting defensive that you were calling them comedians. We're going to go to your Rumble Rans and Super Chats, so smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you have ever met, but not the comedians,

not them. Son of a bit. The uncensored portion of the show is coming up and we're going to tell naughty jokes from AI. Naughty jokes. All right, Josh says Tim, you and my friend Goose have gotten me to not respond with anger online, but I struggle because seeing the Kirk Anniversary, I find it hard

to not respond in anger. You know, I'm not saying other people should or shouldn't be angry. Make a choice. I just kind of felt like I'm wasting my energy, constantly being mad. You know what it is? It's seeing the same thing every single day. At a certain point, I'm just like, you know what? I just can't really get mad anymore because I get it.

I just know. So there's no reason to be mad. Yep. They're going to do it. They're going to advocate for killing more people, myself included. Being mad doesn't change anything. You know, I still got to do what I got to do. I still got to pay for security and deal with all this stuff. So it is what it is. But I think I'm just not interested in like I'm going to, you know, I'm going to yell at Brian Shapiro quite a bit whenever I get a chance. Because, you know, he's just, all of his ex post are just so over the top. Just the most vitriolic insult. insulting, vile.

That's why I blocked them. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just like, bro, the Krasnstein's are fine. I follow them. I got no problem because their tweets are like, oh, here goes Trump again, doing a bad thing. And I'm just like, aren't you guys tired of saying the same thing over and over and over and over again every single day? But it's okay.

You're a lot to complain about Trump. Trump's got, there's a lot to complain about. But like, Brian needs to calm down. He needs to chill. When he comes on the show, he outright says, like, you know, I can tone it down. I don't want to go too crazy. And then I'm like, I don't know, just, you know, keep it civil. And then he gets beat red and his veins pop out and he screams at Phil.

Not anymore he doesn't. Not anymore he doesn't. All right, let's see. Bob, fan of Patrice, says, can AI really make a, can AI make a really good dick joke? We'll find out. We'll find out. Hey, Bob. Jailer Cren says, that guy that did the music on Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood could have done the music for you as you described him.

the pinnacle of human ingenuity and skill is still infinitely more than AI. Maybe it's a question of the very few. You know how I imagine it? Like if you ever play, I can do it in two ways, civilization or Warcraft. In Warcraft 2, I think is when they introduce legendary characters. So like you're playing Warcraft, you've got like orcs and, you know, whatever and they're walking around and grunts and peons, chopping trees down. But then in Warcraft 2, it's like you've got, I think Warcraft 3 is introducing Thrawl. But you get like an actual single character.

He's got a name. And you're like, wow, this one's special. Because this one can do something none of the other ones can. I think Wikipedia says that there's around 300,000, it might be 500, but I think it's like 300,000 people who have done something that is noteworthy. Which is interesting about that is that like half of them are sports. And it's like a guy you never heard of. Like a cricket player who played for one season is considered noteworthy. It's like, okay, you know, maybe. Very few people out of the eight billion have done something that Wikipedia says is noteworthy.

I'm not suggesting that means people are not worthy. I'm saying that is probably the percentage of humans that contribute to the expansion of human consciousness. Most people live their lives and facilitate human existence. And I'm not saying that derisive. I'm saying that's noble. They wake up, they go to work, they're carpenters, they're Uber drivers, they make food, they work in kitchens so that everyone can live and be happy. But a very small percentage have this epiphany and do something a little bit more. And that increases the total capacity of humans ever so slightly. Perhaps those are the people that AI will not be able to replicate. But as for artificial general intelligence, Astra is already better than any computer program I've ever contracted or hired to make. make video games, websites, or art.

End of story. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to insult. Yep, hands down. I go to someone and say, I need you to draw me pixel art, dark pixel art style dungeon, and it will take them a week. Astra did it in 10 seconds. But I'm talking art, like, you know, like Renaissance and Van Gogh and stuff. Well, I'm creative as in new art, maybe not, but I guarantee if you go ahead and tell a, like some kind of illustrative AI, here's a photo.

produce this in the style of... Well, I mean, there's the example of the guy who posted a Monet, but then said, I asked AI to make a Monet, and here's what it made, and all the comments were, here's why that painting is bad. And then he came out afterward and said, that's a real Monet. And they all deleted their posts. They don't know. But that's more of the social media.

People want to be heard. They duct taped a banana to a wall and call it art. You tell me, AI can't do that. I assure you it can. But everything you're saying, and again, I know you weren't talking about art, but it just made me think of it. That's why I brought it up because again, this is the human element we talk about with comedy, with art, with things that AI can't touch. I needed title screen music and I needed gameplay music. And I make music. And I think it would have, I don't know, like, you know,

you know that salt song you made? Yeah. How long did it take you to conceptualize, record, and finish all that? Um, probably a couple of days. A lot of the time I was just kind of doing other stuff I was listening to stuff coming up with it. But how much hours of labor across those couple of days? Like eight. Eight hours. Yeah. Asuno can do that in 10 seconds.

Yeah. 10 seconds. And look, I don't need a masterpiece. I don't need bad romance by Lady Gaga. I need some deep organ horror music for a dungeon. And it rendered two in about 10 seconds. And one was okay. One was pretty good.

And then I said, let's make two more. And then I was like, okay, we got two good ones. Let's put those on loop. and it works low organ. As for the character models, it's actually much easier right now to just buy existing character models because I don't want to have to try and render

20 individual animations when I can click buy and it's done already. So that's still the power of decentralized human animation. The AI can do it. And I started building the first character models and I said, building, even with AI building the models, 3D animations are, they're skinless.

So it's just a bunch of squares that move, you know, and they can swing swords. I'm like, someone already made that. I can just purchase it for $100 and get a whole set. As for the skins on the characters, I just said, here's the character I want, went, done. So why would I hire someone to hand paint

or draw or graphic design that? I can do it in 10 seconds. So that, what I'm saying is, the greatest art, the greatest painting, the Sistine Chapel, maybe A is not going to do that. No. But 99% of the art work that needs to be done is logo. It's a poster board mockup.

Almost every flyer now is AI because people are like, it got the job done. I don't need a person to come and do it. And if you ask open-ended, hey, I need a logo for this and kind of this. It'll give you 20 of them. So much quicker than anyone. Yeah. And again. You go, that one's a good.

Yeah. And it's not the one thing AI can't capture, and I think in our, art, you know, like everything you're talking about, like, reproduce a Monet, maybe this, and same thing, comedy. It's all that human element that I just can't see AI, our humanity, our soul. What is the human element? The best I can explain, like we talked about, is these, like, you do a dark joke and whether you want to laugh or not, you do.

I don't think you're doing that with AI. Same thing with painting. Like you just said, like, oh, well, we can make it, make a Monet reproduction or something like the Sistine Chapel. And people couldn't tell the difference. Right, from the reproduction. But if you ask it to create Starry Night, to create the haystacks, it wouldn't, like, it can't. I just don't believe it for a second. It would have to make something of its own. You know what I mean? And I don't think it can. I don't think it has that element. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I would venture to guess it can. And like you won't know until you look at it. Something like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I mean, I'm not so sure that it can't. Maybe it can't now. I think it can. I'm just saying for argument's sake, maybe now. You want to play a game? You want to. You're going to get scared. How about this? Is it where did I hide the rest of your whiskey? No, how about I pull up historical good art? And then I also pull up AI art.

But I don't tell you which is which. And then you've got to figure out which one's which. That's a fun game. And I'll do that. But what I'm saying is they're all reproduction. It's not like, is this AI or is this a great work of art? What do you mean? It's a reproduction. I'm not saying I'm going to reproduce it. I'm going to say, I'm going to tell AI to create 10 paintings in the style of famous artists. Oh, okay. Then I'm going to pull up 10 famous paintings. And I'm going to see if you can figure out which is which.

I love it. All right. I'm not saying I'll do well, but I love it. I think you won't be able to. I think one of the important things I understand about art is that it's largely fake. Like, I've never brought this up before about Hunter Biden's painting selling for like half a million Isn't there a rumor someone suing him because she actually did the paintings? Oh, I don't know.

All I know is a banana duct tape to a wall being $100,000 is not real life. That wasn't him, though, right? No, no, no, no. But, like, that's what they say is good art. Or how about, let's get very serious with one of the most famous art pieces that have been done in our generation, which is Marina Abramovich's present, I think it was called. She sat in a chair. Right.

And then people came and sat in the chair with her. And then they cried, and that was it. That's the human element. See, that's... What do you mean? If you go to the... If you go to MoMA... Go on them.

When you go to MoMA, ask them what good art is, that's what they will tell you. Now, you can, by all means, you can say, well, I don't like that art. Sure. AI can then make art you would like. See, I'm not disagreeing with you,

but all I'm saying is there's like this sigh when you look at certain paintings. Like, that's the beauty of the human mind. Like, the left brain is the logical, like, that does math. But the right brain just looks at something and it doesn't say, I like this brush stroke, I like this color. It just all at once likes it or doesn't.

And I don't know that AI can do that. We'll get some good jokes in second, but let's get a mega reshatsu. He says, I love you teasing out the jokes. Tim, sorry, but your guest has no idea that Thomas Beckett wasn't killed by knights who wanted to kill him. They were just following, would someone rid me of this troublesome priest? You're familiar with the troublesome priest's history? No, is that the canterbury tales?

I forgot which king it was, was frustrated by the priest Beckett. and said, oh, won't someone rid me of this, this troublesome priest, this troublesome priest? And so there were three knights who didn't really care much for him at all. I didn't think about him. They were just like, okay, they wouldn't kill him. And then they were like, why did you kill him? They were like, well, the king told us to. And he said, I never told him to kill him.

I was just lamenting the troubles he was causing me. And they said, no, he said, won't someone rid us of this priest? And he was like, I didn't tell you to go do it. And like, oh, we thought you wanted that. Again, this is a king and these are two hacks. But I do like the story. Yeah, again, like a guy. guy on stage to 100,000 likes is a snowflake in an avalanche.

No, look, you said it perfectly. A guy on stage, the terrifying thing to me, the terrifying thing to me is like, okay, I got 100,000 likes, and one of the people that liked it is nuts. That's my concern. The rumbling says, I'm confused, Tim. Why don't you bring up famous comedians or celebrities that have called for killing, like Kathy Griffin or Madonna? Yeah, and we thought Kathy, I love that Kathy Griffin got canceled.

And Madonna is another one that no one likes. She never got canceled. Kathy Griffin got canceled. No, Madonna. She cried. She cried like a bitch. She's like, oh, he canceled me. Madonna did not.

Oh. Tons of these celebrities never did. Madonna got called. Charlie Day said his favorite Luigi was Luigi Mangione, and the right got mad and literally nothing happened. I wish you didn't say that. I didn't know Charlie Day said that. He did.

They said, he was playing Luigi. He said, who's your favorite Luigi? And he goes, Luigi Mangione. And then everyone left. Yeah, because it is mainstream celebrity left to murder people. Yeah. That Charlie Day can go on a press junket for, a Nintendo movie and say

his favorite Luigi is Luigi Maggione and they love it. Yeah. And they cheer for it. Shouldn't we instead be like, oh, that's a really bad thing and you should get in trouble for it? Like, you should be socially impacted negatively for promoting. Why don't they get canceled and people on the right do?

Because the right thinks it's okay and they should be allowed to say it. So you're saying we shouldn't be okay and let it. Well, you don't want to counsel the guy who said to kill people. You said he should be allowed to do it. I said he shouldn't be at the club. He's hack. So we agree he should not be allowed to say those things. The club should kick him out. Sure. Okay. Well, that's a start. I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you about like people.

I guess I am. I mean, again, I'm disagreeing with you of like at whose fault it is when the act is committed. You're blaming these hack comedians. I'm blaming the guy that pulls the trigger. That's all. What was the name of the guy who pulled the trigger for Charlie Kirk? Tyler Robinson. Was he acting alone? I think so. Was it anyone else who had expressed information or knowledge about something happening to Charlie Kirk that day? Yeah.

Who were those guys? I have no idea. How did they know? Why were they saying Charlie's going to get a surprise? How could they possibly have known it? Why do you think? I think it's because there is a culture of people that go on stage and say, go do this, and a group of people hear it. and then one guy makes a plan and the other people know what his plan is.

You think a bunch of people were involved in that. I didn't say that. That's what I took it as. So you're saying, you're just saying it was just a coincidence. That was the day. That there were like 17 people that posted the day before Charlie got murdered. I remember that. Like there was a tweet that's like something about that.

A bunch of them. TikTok post saying Charlie's going to get it tomorrow. Just wait and see. So you think so comedian said it and that was the day they all agree? No, I'm saying that a group of people hears from another influential person go do a thing. And there's a group of people that are all sitting around

laughing and cheering for it. Then one guy says he's going to do it and they all giggle. And then he goes and does it and they all know he did it. The influence comes from somewhere. Sure. So when you have Radio Rwanda,

it is historically known that this is a contributing factor to the genocide, that the media was telling people to go kill. So we blame the people who advocate for murder. Sure.

We put more blame on the guy who pulls a trigger, but it is criminal. to incite someone to go murder somebody. I don't think we should let these people off the hook because they're saying kill a bunch of people. Yeah. But we are going to go to the uncensored portion of the show

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