Timcast IRL - Alex Jones SUES Sandy Hook Families In SHOCK Twist Alleging FRAUD w/Milo Yiannopoulos

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Tim, Phil, Shane, & Elaad are joined by Milo Yiannopoulos to discuss Alex Jones suing the Sandy Hook Families over the InfoWars auction, Sonny of The View looking extremely angry while reading a legal disclaimer about Matt Gaetz, the Timcast Crew teaching Elaad how the US was founded as a Christian nation, & a Chinese ship being detained after being suspected of sabotaging undersea cables. Milo Yiannopoulos is a British political commentator, writer, and provocateur known for his controversial views, satirical style, and outspoken critiques of progressive ideologies. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Shane @ShaneCashman (everywhere) | @TalesfromtheInvertedWorld   Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know, I never thought that I would be opening a show by saying Alex Jones sues the Sandy Hook families because it seems so strange and inverted. But everything is crazy anyway. So that that is the story. And I feel like it's so bizarro world, but it's literally happening that we have to leave with it. Despite the fact that World War Three may be starting. North Korea has deployed troops to fight with Russia. A Chinese vessel has been detained in the Baltic for potentially destroying undersea cables, which some think is the precursor to a larger conflict. And yeah, it's a crazy story. And then there's a bunch of other stuff. I don't know. Congress is banning men from the women's bathrooms and it's caused this whole controversy.

There's a funny video earlier where The View was forced to issue a legal disclaimer that the smear against Matt Gaetz is unfounded, should be considered with great skepticism, and the DOJ brought no charges. So I figured considering, I don't know, World War III or whatever, maybe, let's start with the weirder domestic story that'll make people, I don't know, enjoy life a little bit. Despite it being a crazy story, at least it's weird enough to where you're going to be interested. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy Cast Brew Coffee. I recommend Stand Your Grounds because you must stand your grounds. Cast Brew Coffee is our company. We sponsor ourselves. So pick up coffee if you like coffee. It's the best coffee. Everyone agrees. But also head over to timcast.com right now. Click join us to become a member.

Because we're going to have a members-only uncensored show, which I imagine will probably be a little off the rails tonight. But you will thoroughly enjoy it. It's always fun and funny. And so smash the like button. Share the show with all of your friends. The reason why I say you want to become a member for the members-only uncensored show is because Milo is here.

Well, thanks for saying that. Well, you're funny. You're a funny to be it's going to be raucous i don't give a lot of interviews but i do like to return from time to time to your show because you've been so good to me over the years inviting me on when it wasn't always easy um you know before i was getting uh um phone calls from a certain family uh say thanks uh well you're a fun guy and we love you well thank you for having me who are you what do you do introduce yourself who are you

I can't give any I can't give a worse answer than my dear friend Hotep Jesus did last night I'm an author and whatnot and just actually I think we'll get into it later

but I was the CEO of Yeezy for Kanye West until very recently worked for just about everybody um in conservative politics and um the author of a new book a new book here you know i've never done this before i've never done a book tour because i've always thought it was terribly grubby and ghastly but i am here we'll talk about it later um to promote my new book the wit and wisdom of nicholas j fuentes um we'll get into it later um lovingly compiled by uh his mentor and role

model me um and um and we'll get into that later but yesvingly compiled by his mentor and role model, me. And we'll get into that later. But yes, I'll tell you all about that. So, yeah, no, I'm I would describe myself as the Jack Bauer of Republican politics. The guy that they have to disavow, but that gets the job, gets the job done. All right. This would be fun. We got a lot of hanging out. Hey, everybody. what's up? My name is Elad Elayahu. I'm a journalist here at TimCast. Milo, you're a political force to be reckoned with.

I'm excited to hear more about the book and what's going on in Washington. Shane, what's up? What's up? Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live. It's good to see Milo. How's it going? Welcome back. And everyone thought I was joking two months ago when I said Alex Jones should sue the Sandy Hook families.

And here we are. What's up, Phil? Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Tim? Let's go. Here's the story from the Wall Street Journal. Alex Jones sues the Onion and Sandy Hook families over InfoWars deal. Attorneys for Jones say the satirical website made illegitimate bid for Info Wars and plans to misuse its intellectual property. Okay, so, you know, Alex Jones,

he got sued by the Sandhuk families. The Sandhuk families demanded the maximum penalty, which would have been $2.75 trillion, or the GDP of France. That's not a joke. That's literally what happened. I know, it's crazy times. Now, Info Wars is up for auction. And I'll give you the quick gist of the story as to what's happening what happened. I know, it's crazy times. Now, InfoWars is up for auction.

And I'll give you the quick gist of the story as to what's happening right now. So The Onion puts in a bid for what Alex Jones' lawyers and another company, it's First United American Companies, is that what it's called? First United American Companies. They say that The Onion offered $1.75 million. However, they got a waiver from the Sandy Hook families, which was to apply the debt from Alex Jones to the sale to increase the value of the sale to then forgive the debt. It seems to make no sense. If what they're alleging is true, it's basically the Sandy Hooks family saying Alex Jones owes us money.

So the money he owes us, we will pass off a debt waiver to the onion to then apply our own debt to the product that we're supposed to be receiving. It makes no sense. It's circuitous. So Alex Jones says at another company, First United offered $3.5 million, which should have won the bid. But they changed the rules. They made it strange. And now the accusation from First United and Alex Jones is that the Onion is colluding with the families to basically bypass the legal rules of a public auction to sell the company and that within the Infowars properties are Alex Jones's personal IP.

I believe he's saying it relates to his name and likeness and that it cannot be sold. So it's improperly being sold. And that's the gist of the lawsuit right now. So now it's, he's suing them i mean look the way the whole thing goes like trying to get the gdp of france out of somebody and then ending with 1.5 billion dollars it's just it's just stupid none of it makes sense i spoke to a couple of people um including one uh well-known homosexual billionaire um and the plan originally was to have um somebody who's fond of alex buy

the whole thing and then just leave him in charge you know uh so there'll be no effective change from the point of view of the viewers uh and although alex would lose ownership of the company he would still have control of the broadcasts and nothing really would change um that was a plan uh obviously it was ended up being a stitch-up, and it went to the guys it was always supposed to go to. But yes, there is an IP issue here where contractually, if your image rights are licensed to a company, that company can't sell your image rights to somebody else

without your permission normally. So yes, they tried to sell what they, they overplayed their hand because they got so overconfident with this huge trillion dollar judgment. And they tried to sell Alex Jones's right to call himself Alex Jones, you know, as part and parcel of the assets of Infowars.

And his ex-account. You want to make him an effigy. Exactly. And you can't do that because Alex Jones has licensed the likeness and name of Alex Jones to Infowars, which is the ordinary way of doing things. And so what they may end up with is some assets. By the way, that valuation is ridiculous. I mean, in the election year in 2016, I think Alex did like 60 million in product sales.

I don't know why it's being undervalued like that. Probably for the benefit of the onion so they can buy it, right? Because that in itself is another humiliation ritual, right? I mean, Alex Jones' business, I can't speak to his profitability. I don't have visibility on that. But Alex has been a friend of mine for years. And I mean, the guy ships product like you would not believe. I mean, he's the most successful person in this space, and there's no close second, right?

It's a billion-dollar humiliation ritual. Well, it is a billion-dollar business, right? InfoWars is a billion-dollar business because they just ship that much product, right? It's crazy. With the brand value and the amount of stuff that they sell, to sell it for a couple of million is its own kind of humiliation i think this stopped being about grieving parents a long time ago well you know um i hate to say this because you know you never know about people's interior lives but um i don't i've never really understood how money makes it makes grief better um and i've never really understood how if your child was taken away from you by some lunatic,

how $2 million is going to make you feel better. To my mind, it would just make you feel worse. And there are certain, I won't name them, of course, but there are certain specific parents of these dead kids that have behaved in such a way that, well, I don't need to finish the sentence. They also happen to have a book coming out soon.

They have a book coming out soon as well, these parents. Interesting how that lines up. I've never seen anything like it in history, parents cashing in on the deaths of their children. I've never seen anything like it in my life. And I gotta say, you know, tread carefully out of respect for Tim, but I will just say that this is not how grieving parents typically behave. This is not how I would behave if I

loved somebody who I loved. And it's a very peculiar set of circumstances. And the more they go for Alex over this, the more questions I have about this story in the first place. That's all I'll say. The auction sounds like a hoax. Global Tetrahedron doesn't even sound... I don't know if it's a real company. The CEO, I think, is actually... I mean, you couldn't make it sound...

You couldn't make it sound any more satanic, could you? Global Tetrahedron, that sounds like a nice guy. That's the Onion's joke. The Onion was trying to make this one big joke. The issue is, did they legitimately offer a bid or is the trustee just saying they win no matter what if the argument is alex jones owes think about it this way they say alex jones owns 1.4 something billion dollars if the sandy hook sandy hook families can apply any amount of that to anyone else's deal it's literally impossible

for anyone to win that auction. That means there's no auction. I mean, San Diego families just decide who can have InfoWars. But this is a bankruptcy proceeding. Nobody gets to just decide. There are rules. Right. And there's a procedure to be followed. And if InfoWars is worth a certain amount of money, there has to be a tender process.

I think Alex said the quote was, the highest bid didn't win, the best bid won. Right. And, but, but, but you, but you don't, you know, in,

in, in a bankruptcy proceeding, when you have, there are a lot of rules and you don't just get to say, oh, well the guy, there's somebody offering 50 million, but I'm gonna take the 5 million because I think they're going to do better with the assets.

Like that's not how bankruptcy works. And so, I mean, I mean, thank God for Alex, because he's one of those people that just will not take it the best part of the day when those the administrative state those thugs went into his studio and shut it down everyone all the leftists online cheering in 30 minutes alex

jones is in a new studio broadcasting you can't stop him that is that is quintessential he would be broadcasting for one of the tanks you know yes because it's going to take him 30 days to get the title so we'll broadcast from here you know no i. It's going to take him 30 days to get the title, so we'll broadcast from here. No, I mean, that's Alex through and through. And, you know, and let me tell you also that the conversations that I had with people who were in a position to buy Infowars for its true value,

they are ready and willing to set him up all over again. So there's, and the value is, nobody cares about Infowars if people care about Alex. And he's not going away. And there are people with the money to do this, I can tell you, that are happy to set him up in exactly the position he's in today. And the way that bankruptcy works in most states, I presume it's the same in Texas, is that after the proceedings, anything you make afterwards is not subject to the seizures and to the freezes and all the rest of it. So anything that somebody might gift, grant, or get Alex involved in after the bankruptcy proceeding, or in somebody else's name, whatever, there's nothing they can do.

Well, look, some wealthy investor launches a company hires alex jones as their principal personality pays him a a pittance but gives them corporate credit card they don't need to pay my business because because um after you're you know well it depends on the it depends on the nature of the bankruptcy proceedings but they can either pay him nothing and they just give him the company in seven years or they can pay him a fortune and give him all his money back. Either way, you lose. Either way, the bad guys lose. And they will. It's just a smear campaign. I don't know what their motives are for sure, but they seem like they're- They have said it's literally to stop Alex Jones to make it so he can't do his work.

They do blame him. They can't, and there's no way to do it. There's absolutely no way to shut that man up. You will never be able to do it. And okay, fine. Are you taking my Twitter account? I'll just open a new one. But they can't take his Twitter account because Elon owns it.

Yes, technically, yeah. The ex-lawyers were at one of the hearings, I think. Right. To say you can't take his Twitter. That's crazy. Is that what they said? I don't know if that's exactly what they said. I'm paraphrasing.

I don't know that they would need to make an appearance to say that these companies have already asserted this in other cases where they said when people were selling their accounts, there was like a statement. This is like 10 years ago. They said, you don't own your account and we can disable it if we see that it's been transferred. Almost every account that you have with any social media service, you are in reality kind of operating a sort of free license to use your account on their services, which in most cases is terrible because they can ban you without recourse or

they can do whatever. But in this case it's good because, you know, because there's a, there's a, an owner who has a say outside of InfoWars. Here's, here's the above the law..com Demon Ghoul Alex Jones sues Sandy Hook parents.

I just, I don't know what world these people live in. I've been watching a lot of the fake news stuff, the MSNBC stuff. It's all really funny to see them start groveling. But it's just,

it doesn't work anymore. These smears, the smears against Matt Gaetz, the smears against Alex Jones, the smears against Brett Kavanaugh, whatever it is, Donald Trump, I just, nobody cares. We're over it. won republicans won regular people are just like shut up we don't want to hear it anymore alex is going to win in the end they didn't just win

did you see that map of county by county oh yeah swings they didn't just win yeah it was a crushing defeat this is this is this is a generational rejection but But have you seen Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Charlemagne, Micah and Joe, all of these liberals, Ezra Klein, who a day before the election were like, Trump can't win. Kamala's going to win. This is bad. A day later, we're like, well, you know, the Democrats, they should have got their act together. But that's because unlike in conservative media, they're paid to do it. They're paid to do it. They're paid to do that. And then when she loses, the checks stop coming. And the bots that are inflating their view accounts and enlarging their numbers on live streams suddenly stop showing up because no one's paying the bills anymore. The paid subscribers dry up.

I mean, watching David Pakman, I don't know why I particularly enjoy David Pakman's paying the bills anymore. The paid subscribers dry up. I mean, watching David Pakman, I don't know why I particularly enjoy David Pakman's tears versus the others. He's not a particularly distinguished figure, but for some reason I just enjoy his misery more than anybody else's. Watching him just sort of act mystified as to how he could have lost 5,000 paid subscribers.

Bro, you know they're not real. You know you're not popular like have you do you own a mirror like do have you ever seen have you ever seen your show do you do you actually think that people would pay for this like stop he might think he does though no it's impossible um no it's impossible i want to i want to jump to the next story real quick but i do have a quick question have you played baldur's gate 3 i haven't have you heard about it i've heard that there's a character based on me and it's literally you no question no no the developer told me really when i when i bought the game is it is it's like a gay vampire or something right yeah yeah he's not

all the characters are gay like the whole game like because it's a given in a triple a game these days everybody's gay i get it but but it's actually a function of, the funny thing is, originally they were all gay because they couldn't code between male and female, so they just said characters can love characters. And that's how you ended up with this. In this circumstance, it's literally just that they let characters, they're all bi. They're all bi. Is that the name? Asterion.

Asterion, that's right. Sorry. I bought Baldur's Gate 3. Yeah. Within three minutes or whatever, you encounter Asterion. And the moment I met him, I was like, that's Milo Yiannopoulos. Somebody reached out and told me. But if you want to play a game featuring me, I have two better recommendations.

The first one is Milo Tossa, which is not quite as exciting as it sounds. It's a game that came out in 2016 where you play an Iranian jihadi and you have to throw me off a roof and hit a target on the floor. Jeez. That's Milo Tosso. It's on Steam. That's it. And the other one is Postal 2.

There's a DLC called, I think it's called Paradise Lost. On Postal 2, each level is a day of the week. On Wednesday, there's a coat check assistant. They actually reached out to me and I did the voices for it. Postal 2 is one of those hyper-violent... Is it on Steam? On Steam. I think it's called Postal 2 Paradise Lost.

I can only endorse games that I did the voiceovers for. Baldur's Gate 3 will be hearing from my lawyers. Yeah, so Astarion is a vampire spawn, and his character arc is that you can have him basically slaughter thousands of innocents to use their souls to become an ascended vampire. Sort of analogous to my career, yeah. Yeah, that's right.

He's got my 2018 hair as well yes um which you can't see today because i have um well another lawsuit i'm shortly to be involved in um uh uh joe burrow if you're watching this and you might be i have seen you stealing my swag has anyone else seen this no joe burrow the lesbian coach put him up call him up call him up call him up surge surge you gotta pull joe burrow joe burrow has been appearing joe burrow has been appearing in joe burrow isn't that his name the quarterback yeah he's been appearing oh yeah he's been showing up in frosted tips and and pastel colors and people will not stop sending me this. He's been stealing my swag. I mean, see, I've got a new style icon,

as discerning and intelligent viewers will tell. My new style icon is, of course, Tim. Good choice. How am I doing? You're doing well. You've got an extra flair with the gold and everything. Well, I had to bring a little Milo to it. That's right.

I did. But no, my new style icon is Tim Pool because my previous look has been stolen by Joe Burrow. Let's jump to the story from the I.T. Sonny Hostin forced to read legal note on The View. Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations. This clip is hilarious. Let's play it for you guys. So I'll set it up.

They have been disparaging Matt Ga over these these debunked allegations they were then forced presumably by legal to issue this disclaimer it's a it's a tv cabinet maybe he's doing it because he wants to make sure they look good on screen sunny you have a legal i do have a legal no thank I do have a legal note. Thank you, Whoopi. She is dying. Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling the claims, quote, invented, and saying in a statement to ABC News that this false smear following a three-year criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought. We'll be right back. She was dying inside. there's a little twitch there's a little sort of black girl pissed off twitch i've never i've never seen a human being be so angry about dodging a multi-million dollar lawsuit abc just waterboarded

her yeah they're doing her a favor for god's sake seriously jimmy kimmel made several statements of fact last night on his show and it's also ABC. I don't know how he stated these things. He didn't say that Matt Gaetz is being investigated. He said Matt Gaetz did these things. So he comes under entertainment. The view in ABC falls under the news division. So the

reason that they have to regularly issue these kinds of denials is that the view is technically a news show. Yeah, but it doesn't mean anything. That's not a distinction for defamation lawsuits. No, it's not. But it means that they fall under a different standards department internally at ABC. So ABC's, you know, when you run, and it does make a difference, for instance, for satire.

It does make a difference, for instance, for, you know, comedians have far more license to say things than news anchors, practically speaking, right? So if you are a late night comedian, you have an automatic presumption that much of what you're saying is either comedic, satirical, pastiche, or some sort of burlesque, whatever. If you are a news show informing the public about what happened today, and the view comes under ABC's news department, it's a completely different team of lawyers, and they have to conform to the same standards, at least in principle, as ABC's news department, it's a completely different team of lawyers, and they have to conform to the same standards, at least in principle, as ABC's nightly news.

That's the first time she ever struck the tone of a talking head. That's right. That is why you will see, if you are a regular view watcher, as I am, because I love to intrude on private grief. I prefer chicken sitting. If you are a regular view watcher, you will regularly see them issue these kinds of statements because they fall under the legal team of the news department i it's but you know the the

the other story on this one i mean i mean kimmel for the reason it's obviously not entertainment is it so i mean jimmy jimmy kimmel comes out and said matt gates did these things it's disgusting how could he be so stupid that he did do these things? I mean, this is defamation per se. This is accusing someone of committing pedophilia is the most egregious form of defamation. Yeah, but as a public figure in America, you have no defamation. Not defamation per se. Well, this is so in principle, yes, but nobody wins and nobody ever wins. Nobody ever brings those cases because by suing, all you do is indelibly link your name with the allegation.

So there's no win condition for Matt Gaetz here. You have to just let it go, and that's what the comedians know, okay? So if Matt Gaetz sues for something like that, all anybody will ever remember is that Matt Gaetz had to defend himself against X, right? So that's all anyone will remember. So it doesn't really matter. The public opinion. Do you think Gaetz's nomination for AG will eventually be hung up in Congress or in Senate?

No, I think they'll do recess like they said. And I also think that if you cast your mind back to the last 10 attorney generals, I think he'll do a better job than any of them. I think that all of Trump's appointments, with the possible exception of Dr. Oz, who I'm just like pretending I didn't hear. What's Oz doing again? It's a bit of a medical thing. When I heard Dr. Oz, I just, I made a vow with myself. You know, I don't hear it. I don't see it.

You know, it's just like... What's your beef with Dr. Oz specifically? He's just an insubstantial, creepy weirdo. I mean, you know... My problem with him was that he's a loser, that he lost the Senate race to John Fetterman, who, interestingly enough, said that he'd actually vote to confirm... The Fetterman's adorable. Yeah, well... It's not a shame in losing John Fetterman, who interestingly enough said that he'd actually vote to confirm Mehmet Oz. Fetterman's adorable.

Yeah, well. There's no shame in losing to Fetterman. Between a Republican and a Democrat, I guess I'd prefer the Republican. No, no, no. I would have voted for Fetterman. Fetterman is like a human. These are the split ticket voters in Pennsylvania, the British split ticket voters. Which is why, by the way, that I sometimes come on this show as, well, whenever I come on the show, in fact, you can think of me as a sort of, you're going to worry or wonder what's going to happen in the next six months.

I'll just tell you, as I did with St. DeSantis last time I was here. Because think of me as Cassandra in that way. You know about Cassandra, who's the high priestess who warns of impending disaster and isn't listened to in the Trojan War. You know, and then she's murdered offstage in Aeschylus' Agamemnon. When Pennsylvania voters go to the polls, they, for some reason, have a little bit of a soft spot for people who aren't quite there. And this is why, this is the real reason the Biden family and the Obamas are so pissed off with Kamala because there is a very real prospect that if Biden had stayed in, he would have won again. Not just because there are purple states that would have stayed with Biden that didn't for Kamala,

but because Pennsylvania as the pivotal, the key state in this election, already demonstrated that they were willing and able to vote for somebody who wasn't quite all there out of sympathy the female voters of pennsylvania in particular they've already voted fetterman over oz and they might well have gone for biden over trump this is the real reason that they're all pissed off because because kamala in her uh arrogance um possibly cost biden the second term so i know I would have voted for Fetterman. I thought he was sympathetic. I thought he was normal.

The way that he has been speaking about Trump shows that he's one of the only Democrats that gets it. He's one of the only Democrats who understands why people like Trump. And Dr. Oz is an uncanny valley alien weirdo. I think Trump had a soft spot for him because he was on TV a lot and had a relationship with Trump. Trump likes him because he's famous.

And gave him a lot of money. Trump likes him because he's famous and because he gave him a lot of money. And Trump has a few weaknesses like this. A famous member of my family gave me a lot of money. Any of those three and you'll get stuff you probably shouldn't with Trump, okay? But, you know, Dr. Oz is a classic kind of uncanny valley weirdo. Politics people in general, I mean, I've worked for a lot of senators, a lot of congressmen, I've written a lot of their books,

17 New York Times bestsellers. Worst pick, though? I mean, not everybody has that. There still is R.F.K. Jr. People in politics can't tell weird. There's something wrong with them where they can't tell weird. They can't tell when someone's a bit off because they're all a bit off. And they don't have that sort of like, yeah, okay, he's like a little bit slow, but a nice, normal, likable guy.

That guy is from Alpha Centauri. So, you know, I would have voted for Fetterman. I thought Fetterman was, you know, was... It's a good thing you British people can't vote in our elections. Don't start that nonsense. Who was running against Oz? Fetterman. In the primary. Was it Barnett?

There was Barnett and McCormick. He lost to McCormick. Who's now the senator-elect. But the reason Fetterman is... What should the Senate be? The Senate should be an eccentric, peculiar, distinctively American body that represents the best and worst of the country, just like the House of Lords on which it's modeled, right? It's supposed to be full of eccentric peculiarities who, as a combined body, reflect the character, the wisdom, and the distinctive identity

of the country and of the people, right? That's what the Senate's supposed to be. Fetterman achieves that. Oz does. The new Fetterman clone. The new clone. Fetterman keeps getting better. Yeah, yeah.

The first Fetterman clone. Clone 12 is the best one yet. We're loving it. But Fetterman does that. Oz doesn't. Yeah. Oz, by the way, who is a dual citizen who served in the Turkish military.

What? Really? Yeah. We need to repeal the 17th Amendment. No, he's a dual citizen who served in, I don't even know

if it was a Turkish military. I think he might have served in Turkish intelligence. I mean, well, sorry, contradiction in terms. What an amazing thing that is to say, Turkish intelligence. You know um but no no uh uh uh oz is is is not just the you know if you have

problems with uh with dual loyalty i mean my goodness uh no oz is a foreign weirdo let's thank god for fetterman repeal the 17th i'll just get rid of all of Just get rid of all of them. Get rid of all of them. Listen. What Adams said, okay, was that the Bill of Rights, meaning everything after the Constitution, the amendments, was suitable only for the government of a moral and religious people. What he meant by that was Christians.

Why wouldn't he say Christian explicitly then? Well, because everybody was Christian. Then why wouldn't he say it explicitly? Because it was a given. You don't need to. No. Well, because everybody was Christian. And why wouldn't he say it explicitly? Because it was a given. You don't need to. No. Eli, you're wrong. Religious freedom in the time of the founders was about competing Protestant denominations.

And those competing Protestant denominations, they want to avoid wars between Calvinists and Presbyterians. So religious freedom was designed to stop civil wars among Protestant denominations. Um, and, and, uh, uh, to, uh, moral and religious people meant to the founders and everybody else at the time, Christians, you cannot give non-Christian people, uh, unfettered access to speech or guns. It doesn't work and it's not working because if the first amendment, uh, basically what, basically the, basically the way this country is set up is morality is outsourced to Christianity. You have a huge amount of freedom, unprecedented freedom for people to choose good or to choose evil. And the presumption in this country is that morality will be governed by a set of Christian norms. Even if people aren't like practicing Christians, they kind of inherit this sort of fundamental understanding.

Eli is shaking his head. Nobody's wrong, I just want to say that. The idea that the first, second, and our amendments are only made for Christians, I think they would have explicitly said that. Our country, I think, was founded on the explicitly the opposite, and they would have said Christian explicitly. Writers of our constitution, we're all lawyers. And I gotta pause, with all due respect, you are completely wrong, and you need to read all of what the Founding Fathers had had written about this because it is fairly explicit. Yeah, and I think there was a range of religion amongst them.

What you're saying is not true. The range of religion was Presbyterian, Unitarian, you know, the range of religion was Christian religion. There are no Jewish founders. There are no Muslim founders. There are no Buddhist founders. There are no atheist founders. Let's pause for a second.

Ilan, let's start with the Fifth Amendment. Do you know why the Founding Fathers created 4th, 5th, and 6th? Specifically, no. It's the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. It is literally, as the spoken word of the Founding Fathers, Benjamin Franklin said, it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer, which was a play on Blackstone's formulation.

It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer, which was a play on Blackstone's formulation. It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer, which is literally written. And real quick, the story was the story, Sodom and Gomorrah. It is better, you know, if but one righteous person exists, I will not destroy this land. It was literally the Bible, which is why they said we should enshrine this in our constitution. And the inalienable rights that Americans enjoy are given by God. And they don't mean a shanti chakra. They don't mean, they mean the Christian deity. I don't think they, I think they would have said so.

I think you guys are really overlooking how intelligent and smart the founders were. And if they thought Christian, and they wanted the country to be explicitly Christian, they would have explicitly said so. And like, I think it's... That's why you guys have to read into it. That's why you guys have to read it into it. I gotta stop you.

You haven't read any of this. You haven't read between the lines. I have read a lot of the foundational documents, and they would have explicitly written in Christianity. When he asked you about 3, 4, and 5, could you have read them out? Do you know what they are? No, not explicitly. Not explicitly. But that doesn't... I'm not rejecting... You don't know the amendments you're talking about

I'm not rejecting the religious influence on our founding documents I'm saying they would have explicitly... Tim, you've done it again. You found the only stupid Jew Moral and... My favorite? What extraordinary... Hold on, hold on Why don't you think they would have included Christian English quotes of moral and...

We found the only retarded... Sorry, sorry, sorry. I know I'm not supposed to say that, sorry. Let's pause real quick. Real quick, real quick. I never know, I never know, I never know. When they say a good and moral people, they believe that other religions are immoral

because that was the standard back then. That was... The phrase is That was the phrase excuse me just just just just because I know that you are a recovering libertarian my different Phil that's not the expression the expression is a moral and religious people. Fair enough. Okay and the religion is Christianity. Now I want to pause. My favorite amendment is amendment 7. Okay. What's amendment 7? Off the top of my head, I can't tell you. How about you tell us, Milo?

Stop, Tim. How about you tell us, Milo? Well, he's a British guy. Wait, no, no. Let's hear it. Milo's willing to call me out on knowing it. Not knowing it. I don't know what it is.

Milo doesn't have a shit. He doesn't know what it is. He'll complain about Dr. Oz being a dual citizen. He's only a British citizen, so it's really original. I'd like to open up to anybody else. So funny, Milo talking to this trash. Any of you guys know this shit? Okay, Elad, please.

Guys, does anybody else want to take a strike at the Seventh Amendment? I don't know what I've thought to my top. I don't know anybody. No one knows this one because it doesn't matter. The Seventh Amendment matters, sort of. It's the right to jury trials in civil cases so long as it's over $20. Now, here's the funny part. Back then, $20 was nuts.

Today, $20 ain't nothing. So there is a dramatic change in what that amendment means based on inflation and Federal Reserve policies, which I find hilarious. That being said, Elad, there are numerous writings. Now, I will stress this. There were some founding fathers who were deist. They believed in God. They didn't follow Christian moral teachings.

But it is, your argument is a classic and incorrect argument, which doesn't actually look into the letters, the writings, the books. What you're saying is, why didn't they explicitly state this? It's in the Declaration of Independence. It's the fish and water argument. Okay? So let me start you here. I think they were purposefully inclusive.

How about I finish? The founding fathers were purposefully inclusive. How about I finish? Sure. Do you know air was discovered? Do I? No, it wasn't officially ever discovered. Yes, it was.

You are completely incorrect. Air was discovered. Okay. You are completely incorrect. When was water discovered? Please don't make this guy your White House correspondent. My God in heaven. When was zero discovered?

It was a concept. It kind of always existed. It was never- No. Oh my God. It didn't always exist. You already know it, Evan. When was zero discovered? It was a concept. It kind of always existed. It was not... No. Oh, my God. It didn't always exist. You already know it did not. Humans did not have a concept of zero.

It was discovered. Humans did not know that air existed. They thought there was nothing here. It was the ether. There was an energy that you could feel. And then one day, some dude, they used to use these bronze orbs with holes in them and a straw. They would dunk it in water, put their thumb over the back, lift it up and put it over themselves. One guy goes, hey, what happens if I put my thumb over the back and then put it in the water? Hey, no water went in

the little ball. Something is displacing the water. And then he said, guys, I got an idea. And that's when we discovered there was actually matter and mass all around us. Why didn't they write about air? It was in them and around them 24-7. There's no reason for the founding fathers who are 99.9% Christian to say, and don't forget, we're all Christians in this room, right? Let's write it down. Except him also to say, it is there. Except to say it is there in the Declaration of Independence. It is there. It is there. In all of the founding documents, God is actually present as well. It's just that they don't feel the need to say it in every clause. They never mention Jesus.

And there's no mentions of Christianity. Just allusions to moral and religious people. I think John Adams is smart enough that if he meant explicitly Christians, he would have said Christians specifically. I guess he did. Moral and religiously. He did. You just haven't read any, Adam. No, no.

You're wrong. You're British. You think you know a lot more about American politics than you do. He did. He did. You just haven't read any of it. No, no, you're wrong. You're British. You think you know a lot more about American politics than you do. How come our law books don't explicitly state that it only applies to humans? I don't think these are law kinds. Is it because we assume as all humans we're not applying laws to dolphins? In American courtrooms until very, very recently in criminal trials in American courtrooms until very, very recently, until very, very recently in criminal trials in American courtrooms,

what book do you swear on so that everyone knows you're telling the truth? I think it's your own religious book. Is it the Talmud? Is it the Baka Hadvita? Is it the Dead Sea Scrolls? No, it's the Bible. Grow up. Do you know what percentage of this country right now is Christian?

Depends on how you define it, but at least 60 no it doesn't Discriminating between Christians Catholics which denominations It's about 70% okay, right and you know that number wasn't like the 60s probably closer to 99 Did you hear that? Congratulations. You could be nice to the ruling elites, you know. If you go back even 50 years, this country is 95% Christian. If you go back 100, it's 100% Christian. There's very few people who weren't. Maybe some immigrants from Asia were Buddhist or Confucianist or whatever.

It would never have been imagined that they would have been running for president. There are countries who, despite being 99% Muslim, still decide to enshrine their religious law explicitly. They're not America, and that's not what America did. Okay. Did they do it in Britain at all? Is Britain a Christian country? I'm not sure. Maybe you can tell us about Britain instead of America.

The King of England is the head of the Church of England. I don't know. That's why I'm asking the British guy, not the American citizen. I can't believe you don't know this, but the British monarch is also the head of the Church of England? I don't know. That's why I'm asking the British guy, not the American citizen. I can't believe you don't know this, but the British monarch is also the head of the Church of England, which is the Anglican Church. Canterbury Cathedral has an archbishop

who is the sort of religious, if you like, the chief executive in corporate terms. And in corporate terms, the president of the board, the chief of the board, is the monarch. So if you are an English monarch, you have to be an Anglican because they are also the head of the church because the English church is an established church. So this is a disestablishment, which happened in 1776, is where you divorce religion from the state

technically, right? And the reason it happened in 1776 is because if you're going to cast off the British king, you have to do something about the religion because you can't be sort of paying obeisance to the head of your own religion when you've just deposed him as the head of your state. Well, Milo, I apologize. It's truly easy to confuse you guys for a British country or a Muslim-majority country. I have a question for you. Do you want to finish? Well, just simply to say that the Washington National Cathedral,, right, which is an Episcopalian church. The Episcopalian branch of Protestantism was invented basically to, it was created to be a parallel and almost identical religious institution.

And that is, Washington National Cathedral, that's where the presidents get buried. That's where things happen in American public life. All those things where, you know, you see all the presidents lined up and someone's being buried. It happens in Washington National Cathedral, which is an Episcopalian Christian church. That is the national church of this country. So, Ilad, I got a question for you about the Second Amendment. Do you know what it is? Yeah.

The right to keep and bear arms. I know that one, Milo. Necessary to the security of a free state. Let's start from the beginning. Roughly, I'm messing up. You're being mean now. No, no, no. I'm not being mean.

You're being cruel. Hold on, hold on. You're being cruel. I am not being mean. This is the one I know. This is my point. Necessary to the security. It's not to put him on the spot. You can look it up. I don't care. I'm not being mean this is the one I know this is my point you can look it up I don't care a well regulated militia

you got the well regulated I forgot that part a well regulated militia necessary to the security of a free state the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed what does it mean why did the founding fathers want that written in what was their intent

I think the attitude of the country at the time was of rebellion keep in barom, shall not be infringed. What does it mean? Why did the founding fathers want that written in? What was their intent? I think the attitude of the country at the time was of rebellion, and they were thinking that they needed to maintain being armed. They wanted to continue the state of rebellion. It makes total sense. No, well, they saw the tyranny that existed when they weren't armed, and they wanted to give the ability and the God-given right. Why didn't they include that in the amendment? The God-given part?

Why didn't they write everything you just said down? Because they spoke in lawyer talk. So just one sentence. But clearly if their intent was rebellion, they would have included for these purposes to oppose. Well, a well-regulated militia, I guess, to prevent. I mean, that part could be argued. Why didn't they write it down?

The whole thing? Why didn't they write down what you're saying? They were quite prolix people. Because there are many thousands thousands there are more implications that aren't explicitly laid out a lot the point is this you mean you mean implications that aren't explicitly laid out like moral and religious people meaning christian this is my i don't think those are like mine still i still don't think this is my comparisons though you're asking why they didn't write christianity in in a bible when they were all christians and assumed everyone

was and you're also stating that there are things they meant that they did not write down later. So which is it? I just think you guys are reading into this really hard. Answer the question I'm asking you. Repeat it. Were the founding fathers leaving out information that was assumed, or were there things they intended to include that they didn't write down? There were things left out there.

Could that be that everyone in the room was Christian, so the assumption was moral and religious meant Christian? It could be, but I don't think that's what he's referring to in this quote. I think it's much easier to say if you explicitly mean Christian here. Our Constitution was made only for moral and religious people. If he meant specifically Christian, I think it's an obvious thing. I don't think he meant— Hold on, hold on. You made one point.

Stop, stop, stop. Muslim majority countries, they say so explicitly. Elad, you made a point. Your point will be answered to. Don't gish-gallop. Satanism is not a religion that the Founding Fathers would have considered to be moral and religious. Right? I agree.

Nor is Judaism. Well, I don't think... Debatable. I think they would have said Judaism is moral and religious. Not debatable. What other religions did they mean here? Not debatable. Besides moralism.

None. None. Besides Christianity. None. They only meant Christianity. None. And I don't see as to why they wouldn't say that explicitly. If they only meant Christianity by moral and religious people, John Adams here, I think

he would have said so explicitly. Let me ask you a question. I think it's more implicit than that. Were they Christians? Let me ask you a question. Some were, some weren't. Were they Christians? Some weren't, some weren't.

All the founders were some form of Christian. I'll explain. I'll explain. And now the question then is, do Christians typically say that other religions are correct? Um, I think the Christians... Oh, come on, the answer is no. They're chosen people. I think they call... I think the Christians say the Jews are chosen people, so something about that.

No, Christians don't go around saying... Christians believe in the Jewish Torah, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe one of you Christians could tell me more about it. In order to demonstrate this, you can look, for instance, at the highest authority in America, which is not the president. It's the Supreme Court. Things are decided in America in courtrooms. The courtrooms are the places where America's national dramas play out. Whether it's Roe v. Wade, the abortion debate is framed in terms of a court case.

Right. Whether it's the OJ trial, which told white America there might be a problem here. I don't think blacks are buying into this thing that we wanted them to do post emancipation. Right. I think actually maybe they're just going to vote with other black people and maybe we got a problem here. Right. To Trump, to the Bush-Gore election, all of America's great national dramas are played out in the courtroom. OK. And the Supreme Court is the highest authority in this country because they get to choose the president if no one else can make their mind up. Yeah. Right. So they can also rule on whether the president go to jail. place, they are holding their verdicts against a constitution that is based on Christian principles, such as oath-breaking, the commandment against bearing false witness. Right.

Which means if you make a contract with somebody else, you stick to it. And if you don't, they can sue you and you got to pay them. This actually flows directly from the Christian commandment about bearing false witness, just like all the other laws and just like the constitution. One more point before we jump to the next story, though. You would say that there are people in China, they're religious, they have a religion. I'm not sure. I believe it's largely Buddhist. I could be wrong. I think there's some Christians. I'm sure there's some moral and religious people in China. I don't think kind of Buddhism is a religion. You don't think Buddhism is a religion, actually.

You don't think Buddhism is a religion? No. I think people are also Buddhist and other things. I can hear an outcry of, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo. Hari Krishna. There's a thousand crystals just lit up. What is that?

Hinduism. Yeah, okay. Okay. How come in these countries they don't have a Fifth Amendment? Because they're trash countries? That's not an answer. Do you know what the Fifth Amendment is? It's to not be self-incriminated, not to provide...

That's the easy one. There's several components to it. So my point is, it is rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. You get a right to a trial, these things, fourth, fifth, and sixth. The right to fourth is search and seizure. If it was just about being religious in general, well, the founding fathers understand that China was religious, but they do not protect an individual's right to a trial, a jury of their peers, and against self-incrimination. That's quite literally rooted in the Bible. I researched this intentionally because I was wondering why the founding fathers, I read about all the Bill of Rights. The first, the first amendment was originally supposed to be, what was it like

salaries? The second was supposed to be a portion that I could be mixing them up. And they ultimately dropped those. There were 17 original articles. They got condensed and some got eliminated. The second amendment used to have a line in it that stated that even if you did not serve in the military, you still had your right to keep and bear arms, which was so important because the left is arguing that the second amendment only applies to a well-regulated militia. And the original articles for I think it was the fourth time stated, you don't got to be in the military. You get to keep your guns.

And they said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This could be used in court to argue against conscription that when we call someone up to serve to defend this nation, they could say, no, let's remove that part. Have it be implied that everyone just keeps to have their guns. Now the Democrats are literally arguing that it means only a well regulated militia. And it's like, heavens me, did you literally read about anything the founding fathers wrote when they were crafting this? They were all like, we want to make sure everybody has weapons. It's not just about tyranny. It's a generality. There is fear of a tyrannical

government. However, they don't want people rising up against them. There was what's the the I forgot the guy's name. There was the rebellion after the revolution when they didn't pay the the people who fought. They revolted in Jefferson and the other founding fathers were like, no, no, no, no. We're pardoning all of them because we cannot found a nation on internal fighting. There's a bigger component with the Second Amendment, and that is the militia is necessary to a free state, not just to oppose domestic problems, but foreign problems as well. If a foreign nation wants to invade and the average citizenry can rise up and form militia, they are much more defensible. However, because they didn't explicitly write it, they wrote it in external papers, drafts and letters. The Democrats are now trying to strip us of those rights.

So if you don't know anything about this, you don't read the Federalist Papers, you don't understand how all this stuff comes, it's easy to do it. And we can apply this to the First Amendment too. What is the First Amendment really for? It is to provide people with the freedom to do good or to do evil, right? It's to provide them with the free will to be saved or to be damned, okay? And they can stand or fall on their own words and no other man can say, you know, you can do this, you can say this or you cannot say this. Freedom is not really a Christian virtue,

but it exists in the Bill of Rights because it provides people with the ability to do right or to do wrong and then be judged by it in the hereafter. And to be able to express yourself in whatever way you want is a radical, dangerous, and unprecedented level of freedom that has not really existed in society and civilizations before this, that is only possible because it was assumed that America would always stay Christian.

And as America has become less Christian, both of those first two amendments have begun to become a problem, particularly the first one. Because we now live, just to demonstrate how wrong you are, now that we live in a post-Christian America, which I think it's fairly unarguable that we do. Let me pause real quick, just to make a point. And even though the country is 70% Christian, I believe large quantities are not practicing.

Well, they're not. Or voting. Yes, but I mean, sure. There's a lot, I mean, people who believe in prosperity gospel and whatever, I wouldn't really class this. But continue, continue. Thank you. Now that we live in what is in many ways a post-Christian country, and I don't think it's because of that. I think what it really is is that a country is its cities, right?

Civilization from civis, the Latin, means to live in cities. Civilization means to live in cities, right? And a country is its cities. And means to live in cities, right? And a country is its cities. And we've lost our cities, right? And the cities determine the character, the laws, and the nature of a society, of a nation. We have lost our cities, and our cities are definitely post-Christian,

if not actively anti-Christian. So I think that's probably really what I mean. Now, that a given, what is the result of that as uh well the first amendment has provided for uh this creation of two completely different parallel fact universes that americans now live in there's the universe that you live in if you are i mean we could simplistic this is an oversimplification but if you you know you let's let's let's say it's left and right let's say it's democrat republican okay, it's not a very satisfactory way to talk about these categories. Maybe more, maybe better would be like Bernie Trump versus Hillary Romney, right? But there are two completely

different fact universes that Americans now live in, and every single issue that you talk about, whether it is moral or practical has an a and a b that you have to choose between and most people just line up with their tribe okay we live in these two completely different fact universes this is a this is a a psychic fracture a damaging dangerous psychological uh rift that has opened up in the heart of the country that has made America schizophrenic. It has given America, and this is a product of freedom shorn of Christianity. This is a problem of a first amendment without the restraining influence of Christian moral teaching, which tells us that we must adhere to the truth, which holds in the transcendentals, beauty, truth,

and goodness, that we must always aspire to do the transcendentals beauty, truth, and goodness, that we must always aspire to do those things that are good, beautiful, and true, and that promote unity, depending on which church fathers you read. Take Christianity out, and the First Amendment is a mendacious liar's charter that rewards the people who lie the most audaciously, and without honor, and without regret. And it has created this psychic break in the country. That is what happens. And the founders knew this. That is what happens

when you have a First Amendment shorn of Christianity. It lifted the guardrails off morality. So we know that this argument is correct because we have witnessed what happens when you take Christianity out of the equation. And let's add to that with the Fifth Amendment. You end up with defense of the worst vile criminals. You end up with people being released. Yes. So I always phrase it like this. And again, Christians, hey, I'm not a Christian, but I recognize logic. We'll get you. Sure. If everybody on the planet, if everyone on the planet was Seamus Coughlin, I know Seamus is a good dude.

I know what he believes. I know how devout he is. If everyone on the planet, if everyone on the planet was Seamus Coughlin, I know Seamus is a good dude. I know what he believes. I know how devout he is. If everyone on the planet had the same moral framework as Seamus, there would be no war. There would be no murder. You would need no police except for getting kittens out of trees. Because Seamus fears something beyond himself and doesn't want to infringe upon others. I think that's the fire service, but I take your point.

And just to say, you may not be a believer yet, you may not be a believer ever, I'm not gonna— Let me say something real quick about hell or whatever. I don't think that most Christians are motivated by a fear of hell. I feel like atheists try to claim that. I feel like, when I talk to Seamus, it seems like his greatest concern is being without God's grace. Is that—amus, it seems like his greatest concern is being without God's grace.

Well, it's the same thing. So when Dante talks about the circles of hell, the furthest away from God are the cold, ice things. Chew it in the devil's mouth. Yeah, the sort of slow, icy chew. Because for a Christian, to be out of the light and love of God is a cold thing, right? That lake of fire is a metaphor, okay, for torment. And it's the torment of despair. The torment of despair is that position in darkness and distance from which you cannot be saved, from which God's love and light cannot reach you because you're no longer open to his salvific message. Okay? So, you know, it's a cold place and a dark place.

It is, you know, it is out there somewhere in the universe, unreachable by law. And it's, you know, it's a place of ultimate despair. And who is warranting the lowest level of hell? Traitors. Traitors. Correct. In Dante's Inferno.

Correct. Yeah, so Dante's teaching, Dante's Inferno is not official Catholic Church teaching, but it was written at a time and within the context, very much in a Catholic context. So it's not official Catholic Church teaching, but it has been enormously influential because it reflects the manner in which we think about particular kinds of sins. So for instance, sodomy is one of those sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance. It's like that bad. In addition to, for instance, denying the poor their wages. If you are employing somebody who needs that money to pay their children, and without it, their children may go hungry, and you withdraw their

wages. That is withholding wages. So that's another of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance, right? And these things are places that put you beyond and out in the cold, in addition to treachery. And what is treachery? Treachery is oath-breaking. It is a violation of the commandment against bearing false witness. Bearing false witness means lying in official contexts. And that's the basis of American democracy. I want to go a lot deeper on this. Let's save the rest for the members-only portion,

and we can get a little bit more unfriendly and a little bit more adult, I would call it, meaning serious conversations about penalties and things like this. What we really want to see happen to them. Got it. Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial. House Speaker Bans Men From Women's Bathrooms on Capitol Hill. This is a weird story that the Speaker of the House had to say men can't go in the women's room.

I don't understand why this... Speaking of an immoral world. You have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this. Let me get real quick context. For sure. There's a new member of Congress coming in named Sarah McBride, a Democrat. No, no, no. That's not the name of that person. Well, you can change your name

and legally on paperwork, this person is identifying as Sarah McBride. I'm just trying to give the context. Let me say this and then you can follow up and explain what's wrong about it and all that stuff. In the media, they have reported an individual who is going by the name Sarah McBride who is biologically male. I ain't seen a name change document. Have you? Okay.

Nancy – I'm Sarah. Nancy May says we will not have men in the women's bathrooms in Congress. Proposed a bill doubled down and said we will now propose this in all federal buildings in this country. Mike Johnson comes out and says, you know what? Men cannot use women's women's cannot use men. Thank you and have a nice day. This is where we currently are.

Milo, explain what's going on. So you have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this. The bill that Nancy Mace is putting forward, which would apply to all federal buildings everywhere, for instance, would apply to your local DMV. This is a very good thing. And we hope that it passes and we hope that it happens. Mike, as the Speaker of the House, can say what happens in the Capitol complex, right? So in the Capitol complex, the Speaker of the House determines say what happens in the Capitol complex, right? So in the Capitol complex,

the Speaker of the House determines what happens everywhere. So without a bill being passed, without a law being passed, he's able to institute new rules for how those buildings are used, okay? So Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, has said no biological males in the female bathrooms in the Capitol complex. And that means the offices, the, you know, you have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this because Mike Johnson, that wasn't a given that that happened, but Marjorie announced a day before this ruling came down from Mike Johnson

that Mike Johnson was going to do this. And I don't know to the extent to which that was definitely the case or not the case, but she sure maneuvered him into saying it. So Marjorie kind of left him with no option but to do this which was um a great public service and a great um a great thing um uh and it's and it's right and it's proper that that should have happened um nancy mace has been great she's she's like a mob wife isn't she she's very she's uh she's she's like a sexy mob wife. Was she wearing like a mink yesterday? No, she came out in this white fur. And I was, you know, my old gay Milo came out. I have to tell you, I have to tell you.

She came out in this fur and I was like, yes, quit. Stop. You know. 50 lashes. No, exactly. There's a hot oil on the thigh. That's my preferred punishment. You know, no no idea that's how

i stopped having sex with men really yeah yeah you just fry up some oil um and just a little drop on the thigh and it stings for days and you're just like i really am not interested in anything else it really hurts um so no it's just it worked for me um so uh um this is this is a this is um um a wonderful thing and uh you have marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for it. Can I ask, okay, so thinking of this story and what you were saying earlier about a schizophrenic country, do you think the schizophrenia widens now in America after the election, or does it get better? I don't believe that the two fact universes are reconcilable. Yeah, I agree. So I think that one of two things has to happen.

I agree. Either the country splits in some sort of orderly breakup, or one of those sides has to happen i agree either that either the country splits in some sort of orderly breakup or one of those sides has to die um and and we are now at a point at which um it's a realistic prospect that one of those sides might be on the ropes you think they're just going to phase themselves out well so let me let me it's that it's that you were talking earlier about um you know micah and charlemagne the God, that fruity guy, and all these other people who are sort of – oh, and the oleaginous, odious slug. What's his name on – Ryan Stelter.

No, not Stelter. He sounds like a slug. No, no, no. You can sort of see him ripple as he talks on The Young Turks. What's his name? Cenk? Yes, Cenk. Ripple.

You know you can tell. Oh, he left the left. People say you can't judge a book by its cover. Give me a break. He's working with Doge now. He's working with him. But he wants to. These people suck it up.

There's a very real prospect. And by the way, I did watch her show yesterday. And I can't share your praise for Anna Kasparian because she had plenty of opportunities to realize what was right. And she only really changed her mind when it affected her personally. And I don't think you get applauded for that.

I'm sorry. I don't think you get a round of applause just because you got assaulted and then your friends weren't nice to you about it. And now you realize that maybe your friends are dicks. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't think you get an applause for that.

Hold on. You're totally right about the assault. Everything. Let me finish here. You're totally right about the assault. You're right about the opinions when it comes um what was the other topic that she had a pro the the birthing person but she did look into the she looked into the the kyle rittenhouse stuff on her own and she came to a different conclusion after she looks and looked into it

how recently she's been at this for decades i understand but every opportunity the point the point that i'm making milo is that she. She went on air and she said lies and she knew she was wrong and she did it anyway. And when did she finally break? When it affected her personally. So you're asserting that she knew. There's no cause for applause. No cause for applause. And just because she saw the way that the wind was blowing and just because she knew who was going to win the election because she's not completely insane.

Suddenly she has some damascene experience. election because she's not completely insane. Suddenly she has some Damascene experience. I think that you're doing You're assuming too much I just realized the left's wrong about everything because Trump's going to win. Give me a break. I'm sorry. You cannot afford

everyone on the left. Just because they're a size two. Now, do Micah and Joe Scarborough. Oh, gosh. Listen. They're much more atrocious than Anakin. So Micah is like, if you took like sort of 3,000 or 4,000, you can work out by body weight how much Adderall will kill you

If you were took so like 20 calculation 20 milligrams less than that and then you'd be Micah And then this and then this is sort of podgy, you know ghastly sort of Matthew Perry's corpse. So yeah soft featured, you know, sort of, oh God. Listen, these are weak people who are... Moral cowards. Moral cowards, but also the worst thing you can be in life is for sale. And there are people who will say just about anything in order to stay on the right line of the sensors

or in order to keep their, you know, their whatever. And we all know this being in the right wing because we know Prager and we know Turning Point and we know, sorry, all your friends. I'm kidding. The Daily Wire, we know because we know these people privately and we know how much better they are privately off air, you we know that that you know there's things that they will not say on air um and other things that will not and that to me personally is the greatest sin you can commit really because because that for me is it it's tickling up to bearing false witness because lying in formal context it's like kind of lying in a broadcast you know about what you really believe you know for a monetary please the the and there's

a distinction i think between for instance this show and people like that because like tim i would i would describe if someone asked me as kind of center right um and you know plays between he plays between the you know the lines um lines in order to maintain a successful and a significant and a big presence, which is something that I wouldn't be able to do. That is incorrect. Well, I'm not trying to offend you. I'm trying to compliment you. No, no, no. But let me, let me counter just. Okay. Then let's talk about vaccines.

Let's, let's counter on this point. Because destiny was lying about me claiming I pushed vaccine conspiracies. I know that. But look, my point is, is not to conspiracies. I know that. I know that. I'm not... My point is not to... If you get to the end, you're going to get a compliment.

It's fine. My point is not to say you're wrong. My point is to say if we went hard line in one direction, our viewership would be larger. Maybe, but... It's clear when you look at all of the biggest shows.

Maybe, but it wouldn't be monetized. And that's my point. So the point is this. You know, I respect what you do. And I have always been grateful to you, for instance, for having me on when it wasn't always easy. For having me on when – and you've done that with other guests too. And I think the way in which you demonstrate courage is having people on earlier than others do. And you've done it with me, and I've always been grateful for it. Okay?

I think that – so there was your compliment. You could have just waited for it um uh but what other people do um which which i i find intolerable is they present themselves as um the bleeding edge of commentary or as the you know as the as the as the warriors on the front lines of whatever um and in fact they are censoring 90 percent of what they say versus um you know what happens here which is like all you have to do is kind of be a grown-up you know you don't want to well on this show like the worst that happens is you sort of have to be uh like uh talk like you would if there was a child in the room well you you gave which is no which is no great sacrifice right you gave us a big difference you know you gave us one of the best insults of all time in fact when uh before

the show it was like it wasn't the last time you were on before that. I said, Milo, just keep it academic. Academic insults are funnier and they're acceptable. And so you wrote down no personal invective with a sad face. But then you described Ron DeSantis as something off-putting, like when you reach for something but accidentally touch something moist, like a wet sponge. Yes, yes. And it was very good. Somebody asked me the other day about Ted Cruz,

and I remarked something similar, which is that there's something amphibian about him, as though he sleeps underwater and lays eggs in the reeds. He's soggy. You know? As though he lays eggs in the reeds. If Ted Cruz were to reproduce, it would be in the form of tadpoles. So you want him to play Swamp Crew?

That's the kind of thing you want, isn't it? You're funnier! Well, some people say that. Some people like the C word. There are other shows for that. No, but I was trying to... It's the members only show. We'll get there. I was trying to compliment you by saying that I know, that I think that you have a family-friendly,

mainstream appeal show that can actually make you a living, unlike the majority of most of us. And you show your courage through the people you bring on, right? Which I think is great. What I can't stand is people who present themselves as these sort of brave warriors throwing themselves under the bus. I think the bravest thing you can do is to say something awful that shocks people, that blows open the fire doors,

that opens the space up for others to follow because you create through that, the blood you spill becomes a kind of baptismal nectar that christens a generation of warriors behind you. That's why Kanye is so great. Let me, yeah, and that's why I loved working for him so much, because that's exactly what Ye does, exactly what Kanye West does. And I think we had something of a meeting of the minds in that regard. And people respect that, and they really appreciate that. And some of you viewers may have noticed a piece in the Hollywood Reporter.

I'm profiled as a print edition of the Hollywood Reporter, which is very nice. By the way, I have my Blaze band lifted as well. I must be really screwing up because I think I'm becoming socially acceptable again. I'm mainstream. No, no. I mean, blaze shows in a row i'm like what did i do i'm sorry um so fox news next no no never uh when they call i don't know what i'm doing wrong uh but i had a profile and and and some some of you will know

some of you will know this we're talking about about it beforehand. You know, I try to do things. I think I describe myself as a sort of Jack Bauer who has to be disavowed officially but gets the job done privately. And I was very happy to be called by a member of the Trump family on election night to thank me for my work getting rid of. Let me pull this story up real quick so I can set it up. Sure, sure. So we have this story from The Hollywood Reporter. They say,

the Milo Yiannopoulos makeover, the alt-right's fallen poster boy is back for Trump 2.0. And then the story... It's my Tim Pool era. It's a pro... I picked a heck of a picture of you, Milo. But they say,

they say this. I'm going to rebrand myself as Milo IRL. Let me read this for you. This is praise of Milo. Just before midnight on November 5th, Milo Yiannopoulos' phone rang. On the horn from West Palm Beach, says a source familiar with the matter, was a member of Donald Trump's family.

The caller would soon take the stage at Mar-a-Lago, beaming on stage alongside the president. Blah, blah, blah. God bless the USA blasted across the room full of supporters. But first, they wanted to personally thank Milo for helping the campaign smear once useful idiots. Allies no longer wanted in Trump's orbit, he says. Call if indeed it happened as described, which when Unapolis is concerned is never given. I mean, they're not wrong.

From the ash heap for the once ubiquitous, flamboyant far right rabble rouser who shot to notoriety during the first Trump campaign, but fell to earth after a series of bruising scandals. They then go on to say at the end that... You can go to the end. And they mention that this was... Where do they mention this? Right at the very end. It's a very long profile. It's a very long, lavish, loving profile.

If you just keep going. I see here. It says, Yiannopoulos published what he purported to be Loomer's history of mental health issues, and poof, went her access to the present, elects inner circle. As slippery as Yiannopoulos published what he purported to be Loomer's history of mental health issues. And poof, went her access to the present, elects inner circle. As slippery as Yiannopoulos can be, he can deliver.

This is Tarantula's sales pitch, after all. And if the business takes off, expect to see such tactics multiplied by the number of clients on his roster, official or not. So what is the claim they're making that you did? Slippery is only because I'm so well moisturized. No, so post Kanye, I have started a talent management agency to look after other difficult, mercurial stars. It's called Tarantula. Visited TR. I've never really done this ever on a show before, but I'm going to be shameless this evening.

By the way, no, trnt.la. You can go to Tarantula and you can see our extraordinary past client list, which I'm sure that Tim is going to be kind enough to throw up on screen, trnt.la. And so we do a lot of talent management, but we also do what I would describe as retribution as a service. So it's like Norm Macdonald in Dirty Work? Yeah. So every appalling... That movie was awesome.

Every appalling, underhanded, disgraceful, disgusting, and oh my gosh, how can a human being do this to another human being? That's me.

The United Nations was a client? Of my partner. So there's three general partners of the firm. Bianca Jacob is one of mine,

believe it or not. So anyway, so we have our previous client list scrolling gracefully across the screen. XXX is dead. What happened there? Well, I was an advisor of his immediately before he died. Really? George and Laura Bush.

Wow. That's my political partner. William Jefferson Clinton. My political partner again. Wow. Yeah. So we have five presidents among the three of us that we have

worked for, including the current one. Well, the one to be, I mean. And, you know, Azalea Banks and Kanye West and XXXTentacion when he was alive and I was in Florida helping, you know, that was sort of 2016-ish kind of period when he was becoming a bit of one of the ones, so I was

working for him a little bit. So, yeah, I mean, I worked for Bianca Jagger, believe it or not. A bunch of other interesting people. Azalea Banks lasted about three weeks as a client. I'm shocked. Yeah, stunner. But so retribution as a service side of things is, you know, when a useful idiot has outlived their usefulness, for instance, Nick Fuentes or Laura Loomer,

I will occasionally be called and offered vast sums of money to get rid of them. By who? That must remain a matter for me and the family. But so one of those things is if you missed the beginning of this show, you'll have missed me brandishing the complete wit and wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes, lovingly compiled by mentor and role model Milo Yiannopoulos. And this is my new book. It's out in the cup. Your book has some endorsements, you were saying. Oh, thank you for reminding me.

Yes, so it's got some blurbs. I'm going to read you the blurbs. First of all, I'll read you the back cover. So the back cover says, Lovingly compiled over a decade by his role model, mentor, and inspiration, Milo Yiannopoulos, this book is an exhaustive intellectual history of the America First movement,

its wisdom and wit eloquently expressed in the words of its leader, Nick Fuentes. Complete and unabridged, this volume contains every brilliant thought Nick has ever expressed. Together with all of his best jokes, it's a perfect gift for the groiper in your life. The complete wit and wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes

will be treasured by the whole family for years to come. You actually got these quotes from high-profile people? Well, that's my blurb about my book. No, I know. But I'm going to read you now. I've got to do it on the phone. I'm terribly sorry for the... So here are the blurbs for the book.

Let's look. Tucker Carlson. If you thought Dangerous was a page turner, you won't believe how fast you'll get through this. Marjorie Taylor Greene. A perfect portrait of the mind of Nicholas Fuentes. Raw Egg Nationalist. The great Raw Egg Nationalist, says, left me feeling empty. And Laura Trump says, I have no words. So if you are interested, it'll be out in a couple of days, a couple

of days on Amazon and everywhere else. I'm sorry it wasn't available today, but it'll be out soon. Lovely color, features this. Are you going to show us what's inside? Features this Frankie notebook. Well, I'd like to keep the contents, I think, for buyers, except to tell you one story, which is I set the record straight about that infamous dinner, that infamous dinner at Mar-a-Lago. So I do set the record straight about that infamous dinner at Mar-a-Lago. So you'll remember it because there was an ill-fated, although very uh highly uh viewed i note yeah a timcast episode in which um my old boss kanye west um uh unfortunately decided the interview was over quite early into the episode

after tim had been very generous and kind to us in all kinds of ways and i was like oh no um so uh please don't please don't but of course you know when you're working for somebody you gotta you know you gotta you gotta follow the boss out the door, for which I apologize. So the dinner at Mar-a-Lago, if you recall that, where I sort of took credit for making the president's life difficult, I do set the record straight. And I would like to again now,

which is that immediately after being canceled, immediately after losing Adidas and his bank cancelled the rest of it, Ye hired me to rebuild his company. So I ran Yeezy first as political director and then as chief of staff for two years. It's a multi-billion dollar multinational fashion and music brand. I was like, really? What, me and George? But I turned out to be good at it. I actually murdered it. He really didn't have any staff to speak of at all.

I booked his ticket. He flew commercial, and his tickets were on my credit card because he didn't have a working credit card to go meet Donald Trump for dinner, a dinner that was long planned. And I couldn't make it, and he took Nick Fuentes, nick fuentes unfortunately um and i thought what am i going to do so i called um a political operative in florida who is um very well connected works for five presidents um so on and so forth called karen to try to grease the wheels a little bit to sort of smooth it all over um and and so she picked

them up at the airport they went to the airport and the rest of it and after that dinner had happened and the nick fuentes like thing had kind of blown up, Ye got a bit spooked about blowing his relationship up forever with Trump. So I kind of took the fall for it. I fell on my sword and I said, it was me. I was trying to like get back at Trump for like not recognizing me after the election.

It was a very plausible lie because I did kind of feel like that. And I said, I took the rap for it. But the real story is that Ye asked me like, what's going to really leave a dent? What's going to leave a mark? And I'm like, I don't know, take Fuentes. That'll do it. So anyway, this poor woman, Karen Giorno, who I know is, you know, she's basically the person you call in Florida if want to um get somebody who's not in the usual

mar-a-lago circle into the circle and and sort of smoothly move through that environment right um so i called her and i said could you pick up kanye west at the airport and like drive him to dinner and i didn't tell her that nick fuentes was in the car um and so anyway there's a lot more to that and i'll leave it for you know can i follow up with you something on there because it's sort of like in this quote but first they wanted to personally thank Milo for helping with the campaign, uh, campaign smear once useful idiots and no longer Trump Alice. Isn't it odd? Because it sounds like you brought Nick Fuentes to the dinner and you're taking care of a problem that you helped make for Trump. That's probably true. Um, although what it's like, thanks for taking out the garbage that

you threw in my campaign. It was nice enough for them to call and say thank you. But what they're really talking about, you must really hate me. What they're really talking about was Laura Loomer. Can you talk a little bit about Laura Loomer? Laura Loomer is, of course, completely insane. And Laura was brought on into the campaign by Jason Miller, who is that sort of frog-faced, useless bag of... Never mind. But Jason Miller has done nothing but make it more difficult for Trump to win since he was brought into the inner circle. But he's either got something on Trump or he

brings money in. I don't know which one it is. Nobody does. But Jason Miller and Boris Epstein, who's the head of Trump's legal team, these are the two guys who were kind of like, oh yeah, Laura Loomer, maybe Laura Loomer. And so she gets on the plane and then Laura Loomer claims to a bunch of people in Palm Beach, all of her friends around in Miami, that she

had performed. Family friendly. Huh? Family friendly. Monica Lewinsky. I was going to say a sex act. There you go. She alleged this. She alleged to people. I love you. And I try to take care of you.

And do you know how difficult it is for me to talk like this on your show? Do you know? Do you know how hard this is? A members only show. Yeah. I'll just, I'll say we'll go off or whatever it is. I can't,

you know, it's been so long since I had sex. I did it the wrong way. I did it like that. It's just wrong um so uh no she um she claimed that she had performed a sex act on the president to uh a lot of her friends and this i was like okay all right okay uh so i got a call from somebody and uh they said we need to get rid of her the president wants to get rid of her but he doesn't want to be the one to do it because she's crazy. So we don't want her turning on the president because so many people, so many followers and everything. So my job was to

bring things about Laura to light that made her ineligible to be on the plane and around the present circle. So, for instance, she's not Jewish. She made it up. A friend of mine was there when she did it. She ordered a star of David Nicholas off the internet so that she could be ruder about Jews on stage at a rally in 2018. Laura Loomer isn't Jewish?

She's not Jewish. She's the only person in history Wait, so what's the... She's the only person in history. I submitted her for the Guinness Book of Records because she's the only person in history. Wait, so what's the what's the only person in history? I submitted her for the Guinness Book of Records because she's the only person in history who's ever had a nose job to look more Jewish Most amazingly you've ever heard in life but I also never heard that about her and when she's not actually Jewish and When she even ran for Congress and that never came right when she was when she was because i was a communications director um but but uh no when um maybe maybe did a uh it's not a great job uh sorry i'm sorry it sounds like things went sour with laura and you guys have a lot of bad blood and you sank her as a result of people do am i reading this right people do pay me a lot of money to clean up my own messes i'm just realizing this now yeah no anyway anyway so uh laura is um uh when laura

was going to give a talk to the um uh to the uh uh a republican jewish palm beach coalition or whatever it is uh she she drew what she thought was a star of david on the folder she was holding her speech in the speech i'd just written for her except it wasn't a star of david it was a pentagram and i said um laura darling can I have that photo back? And she's like, why? I'm on the way out. I've got a speech to give. I said, yeah, I know you've got a speech to give.

I just wrote it. Can I just say, what, what, what? And I said, well, you've written it. She's like, yes, it's a star. It's Jewish. Jewish. I'm going to speak Jewish. I said, but it's a pentagram.

I said, what do you mean it's a pentagram? I said, well, that's the Satanism thing. That's five stars. The Jewish star has six stars. And I had to draw on a whiteboard the difference and ask her to copy it. And she couldn't. She couldn't copy the two.

People will say, because there's no difference. But it couldn't copy. She couldn't copy the two. So this is the first clue. Thank you. This is the first clue I had something was wrong. Anyway, and the second thing that I released was that in addition to her... That's what Sankar among Trump?

No, no. Her counterfeit Jewish is... What really Sankar among Trump is he hates plastic surgery, and he wondered why she looked so weird. And when I told them it's because she'd had so many procedures, Trump is kind of like a bit repulsed by plastic surgery. That's the real thing that sunk her. But the other thing that I did that expelled her from the circle to the great applause and thanks of the campaign and his whole family

was that I revealed the real reason she can't own a gun. So Laura Loomis says that she can't own a gun or have an open carry license in California because the FBI is targeting her for being a conservative. But I have a letter from them, which I acquired, which in fact says it's because her own father had her committed in what we in California call a 5150, a forcible psych hold, twice. And that's why she's not allowed to own a gun, because she's mental. And so the headline was, why can't Laura Loomer own a gun? I asked the FBI, comma, and her dad, Jeff.

And I got her dad to like, I flipped her dad. I do want to make sure we get to this story. No, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. We have about 10 minutes before Super Chat, so let's jump to the story from Newsweek. Chinese ship suspected of undersea cable sabotage detained in NATO lake. This is where things get pretty crazy. So already, Europe is preparing for World War III, they say. They've mobilized 800,000 NATO troops.

They're giving out pamphlets in some Baltic states saying, prepare for war. Here's how you need to do it. Russia has, of course, updated their nuclear doctrine to lower the threshold. Then we saw two undersea cables severed. We got a great call from one of our members last night who said, is this possibly a precursor to a larger escalation of war? Because destruction of communications tends to be the first move. Now they have detained a Chinese vessel, which let's hope it's not the case, could implicate China involving them in a greater conflict. Newsweek says a Chinese vessel has been implicated in what has been described as the sabotage of undersea telecom cables in the Baltic Sea.

International concerns around the cutting of the 730 mile Sea Lion 1 cable connecting Finland and Germany and the 130-mile link between Sweden and Lithuania on Monday. German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius described the incidents as hybrid actions while the Swedish and Lithuanian counterparts said they were deeply concerned. Is it okay if I go for a tinkle? It is absolutely okay. Because I don't care at all about this. Well, alright. Excuse me. Then I'll ask

Eilat. World War III. Fortunately... Don't close the door. Okay, good. I believe fortunately don't close the door okay good i believe fortunately he closed the door you were saying um i don't think so not in the near term i think a lot of people um putin's holding off on making any moves uh until uh trump gets into office but no, I think there's just some asymmetric sort of warfare that we will have a tough time giving a like-kind response against. I don't think we're going to go inside and start damaging cables. What other weird thing happened?

No, no, no, no, no. But I mean, if China is involved in assisting Russia with severing or destroying communications, it has huge implications. It very well may be a Chinese ship dragging an anchor i guess is what their argument was i hope that's the case but i'm not convinced so i'm i'm actually

more concerned with the change in in russia's nuclear policy than than with this communication thing because it is it this is possibly an accident possibly you know some something that wasn't intentional whereas the official change in russia's nuclear policy that is is specifically in response to ukraine using u.s made weapons using likely using u.s intelligence to help to the strike these are very accurate weapons so it's possibly also the u.S. helping select targets. In any other context, if it were a context where someone did this to the United States, it would 100% be looked at as the country that the attack came from and where the weapons came from.

It would be considered an act of war. I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson on the way in today, and they were talking about how the politics in Russia are very different from here and that Putin, if he doesn't, that he has to remain. He has to look a certain way to the to the Russian people like Russians and Americans are not the same people. The culture is very different and the politics are also very different. As much as Putin does a a pretty solid grip on the country there is a possibility of him being overthrown there's a possibility of him being killed just like he he likely tossed that dancer out of out of uh a building today or not i'm

sorry not today a couple days ago or whatever so i mean it's it's it's it's that kind of politics is a real thing and putin's not insulated from that entirely he's he's he's it's that kind of politics is a real thing. And Putin's not insulated from that entirely. He's he's he's he is it's less likely that he's going to be targeted, but it's possible that he could be killed. So he might be in a situation. He could end up being in a situation where he looks weak. He has to continue the war. Yeah, he if he looks weak, then he gets, you know, he could get off. And so if that's if that's the case, I mean, he might be in a position where he has to escalate

the war, you know, especially if there's more than one strike. Like this strike may be able to be overlooked, but not continued. You don't think potential Chinese involvement is substantially more worrying? What a lovely toilet. Of course. It's great, right? You've got the most remarkable Latrine. Sam Seder broke it.

That doesn't... And I'm not trying to rag the guy. That doesn't surprise me. He said on the show, and I was surprised he brought it up, and I was like,

he said, sorry about your toilet, and I was like, okay. No, I've got to tell you, this is, I mean, I live in a 22-room travertine marble mansion

in Los Angeles. It belongs to a friend of mine. And it's pink marble, and it's very finely appointed. But we don't have a toilet as nice as— It is, it is, it is. It's marvelous, but we don't have a toilet as nice as yours. It was like a couple hundred bucks. Tim, I think the thing here is plausible deniability that's coming from the Chinese.

So they could say, hey, we used an anchor to do it. And then same with hitting boats in the Philippines. We didn't do this on purpose. I get it. My point for Phil was I understand what you were saying about Putin and all that stuff. My concern is if there's insinuated or evident Chinese involvement in conflict in Eastern Europe, overnight it's gradually then suddenly we're, we're overnight. It's,

it's what gradually then suddenly boom, World War III. Yeah, absolutely. And to be honest with you, if, if there is going to be any kind of kinetic, kinetic action,

it, it is likely to be in the, in the interim, but before President Trump is, is inaugurated. So there's a pattern of sabotage in the Baltic Sea, because this is the same place, the Nord Stream pipeline.

Yeah, if the Nord Stream didn't get us into World War III, I don't know about some cables. Yeah, but Germany accused Ukraine of doing that. Yeah, and I think there was evidence that eventually came out that Ukraine... It was some Ukrainian guy who blew up Nord Stream. Likely with U.S. involvement. I doubt they could do it without U.S. involvement.

Germany accused a Ukrainian guy of blowing up Nord Stream too. And so when that happened, I was shocked. And I said, this country is an enemy of the United States. They're actively trying to drag us into World War III, bombing a pipeline to our major allies in Europe. The left removed that context and says Tim Pool called Ukraine an enemy. And I'm like, yeah, why don't you include the part where Germany has accused them of bombing the gas pipeline that's supplying fuel to Western Europe? That's that's not an act of ally allyship for the United States. That's blowing up our energy resources to make the argument.

I do think it was within the American interest to not have a pipeline going from Russia to Germany. So that allows leverage, by the way. So your argument is that NATO, that the United States violated NATO. You're saying that the United States acted with subterfuge to damage NATO nations that we are allied with. I think the United States definitely had knowledge. The reason why this war started is in part because of Russia and many, Germany and so many Europeans are dependent on Russian oil. Trump has actually talked about this when he was president in the past,

and now the fruits are coming to bear. Leverage that Russia holds over the Europeans is all through gas, and that's why they're less likely to get involved. But the issue is the U.S. has been trying to offset Russian gas supply into Europe to lower the costs. Destroying a pipeline increases how much Russia can charge through gas problems, through the Ukrainian pipelines. So bombing of Nord Stream two helped Russia like maintain control. And it it created

a higher priority and more important on the existing gas lines they already control. I think it forces Russians to now sell oil and pennies on the dollar to the Chinese now because they are unable to export as much oil and gas to the Europeans. That's what we want to force them to do. Why would they have to sell pennies on the dollar? Now this means that they have been to China. I know because they have to make money in their under sanctions. But Germany is going to have a harder time pulling in natural gas now with Nord Stream getting bombed. And Russia is going to say, we're 20 percent of the supply. You got to pay. I understand there are consequences for Germany deciding to make their gas and oil reliant on Russia.

Totally their fault. And they're dealing with the consequences of poor political decisions at their top echelon from a decade ago. Sounds like your view is, I'm not saying you're wrong, is that Germany is a vassal of the United States. They're an ally. They're under our domain. They're not an ally if we're bombing their energy sources. If you think the United States directed a Ukrainian bomb... Germany has aspired for some time to occupy the position.

And I think it's an unbreakable partnership, like blacks in the Democrat Party between the UK and the US. And Germany has sometimes sought to occupy that position, never made much progress there. But it's certainly true that they have wished that they had that relationship. But, and again, I'm not saying you're wrong. It would be that these European states

are basically vassals of the United States. And I'm not saying it's wrong. It's actually probably true. I think it's part of a larger partnership. Well, I mean, look, any NATO member, to some some degree could be considered a vassal of the United States because the United States is funding their defense. Right, right, right. But I mean, like, you act out of line and we blow up your gas pipeline. Every country on the planet Earth is therefore a vassal state.

You stand out of line and we're blowing you up. You're true with that. But if they are acting underneath the orders and instructions of NATO and the United States, and then if they get out of line, we bomb them, that treaty signifies that they are a subjugated nation. Most of our allies are the junior partners. To be fair, we've occupied Germany since World War II. We liberated. Yes, liberated. Liberated Germany.

There are theories that NATO was behind Eisenhower really liberated millions of Germans he murdered. Yeah, I think we did liberate all of Europe and the reason why we shouldn't pull back on that allyship that we have with them is because we don't want to have to come and rescue Europe again in another 40 years when

they screw everything up between their balance of power. Yeah, definitely Europe where the problems are right now. Well, so we're going to wake up to World War III, or what's going to happen? No, everybody's holding off until Trump gets in, at least, and then things will be calmer. They'll suck it up, even if Biden kills

a bunch of people he shouldn't. They'll suck it up, because they know Trump's coming in, and they know there's no point. There's a fear, though, that the current administration, i wouldn't call it biden is trying to escalate things to make it impossible for trump to de-linkin hates russia it's never gonna yeah it's never gonna be impossible for trump to de-escalate okay um trump is a trump is a generationally uh historic figure who

perhaps there hasn't been perhaps there hasn't been somebody i don't think there's any been anybody since maybe even lincoln who has so completely and entirely embodied what it means to be america whose fate is entwined with america teddy roosevelt who has become come on now modern day neocon that's what they'd call if teddy roosevelt was around right now they'd call him a neocon think about think about the manner call him. If Teddy Roosevelt was around right now, they'd call him a neocon. Of course. Think about the manner in which Trump's fate is entwined with America's. He didn't just say, I feel your pain to his voters. He took most of it on.

He shouldered it by bearing the brunt of the attacks from the left, by getting all of the lawfare, by becoming the... Trump is a shorthand for everything that the Democrats hate about Republican voters, right? An avatar. Exactly. About America. Exactly.

And Trump became, and this is what I was trying to get at when I was on last time and we were talking about DeSantis and Trump, okay? And I was proven so spectacularly correct because Trump is now indistinguishable from America. And what was so brilliant about his stint at McDonald's was that it combined the eccentricity that you expect from an avuncular figure,

because he's gone from daddy that he was in 2016 to more like pater patriae, which father of the nation, more like an avuncular kind of mythological. Yes, exactly. Trump has become mythological. You read my tweet, didn't you? Trump has become something greater than just an elected official. He's become a stand-in

for what it means to be America. And so he's going to be like... He's a part of Americana now. Exactly. And, you know, when he does this McDonald's thing and you have the little, you have the eccentricities like,

untouched by human hands, because that's of course what he worries about because he's like a germaphobe, whatever. But he's also there, he's there as the, you know, America, that's how America, that's how everybody sees America

is powerful, slightly ridiculous, but awesome, right? That's pretty much how everyone sees America, is powerful, slightly ridiculous, but awesome, right? That's pretty much how everyone sees America, right? Strong, a bit silly, but ultimately pretty great, you know? Or at least that's the best version of America. The best version of America that's ever been, you know, and now we're getting a little bit back to that.

There's no world, I mean, no one is going to war with the guy that walked across the demilitarized zone and shook hands with Kim Jong-un. Nobody is going to war with the guy that Putin fears because he knows that Trump will push the button, right? Nobody's going to war with Trump.

Nobody. And that means that nobody's going to go to war with a president-elect Trump either. I don't think it's going to happen. This is what I like about Trump. I was talking about a business deal I was in about seven or eight years ago. What's traditional in the industry is...

Is it with Russia? No. I'm just kidding. It's with a New York-based network. I'm joking. The way they say that these typical deals work is, and you know this probably in Hollywood, they give you a contract.

They call it boilerplate. It stabs a knife in your back, and you've got to hire a lawyer to go through it and rip out all the evil. And it's not just that, but there's a hierarchy of knives waiting to stab you in the back at every moment. So if you dodge this one, the other one gets you. So I go into this meeting, they say, here's what we want to do. It's fantastic. We'll email you the contract. I say, sounds good. I look at it. I read it. I laugh. And I say, are you nuts? And then I respond to the email saying, I appreciate it, but this contract is not serious.

It hands over IP. It hands over ownership. That's a ridiculous thing for you to have asked me for and amend it. They said, send it to your lawyers, redline it and send it back. I responded with, if you think you're going to put a $5,000 legal bill on me to try and do a business deal, I will not be entering business with someone like you. And I said, kindly F off. But this is what everyone else has done. I mean, look at the Wilkes Brothers system. Okay. But right. My point is simply this, sorry,

just to finish. This is what I like about Trump so much. And when you say he would push the button, there are very few people that I've met that I respect who would be willing to say, I will I will I will I will crash my own car before I would ever bend my knee to you. Donald Trump is the guy who says to Putin, I will nuke you before I let you win. And Putin's like, he might. Yeah. So this is called the Madman Doctrine. And the Madman Doctrine was most notably deployed by Nixon. And Nixon's thought was, if I make people think that I'm crazy and I'll do pretty much anything, people will be too afraid to start SHI, you know what.

And he was right about that. And it was very effective. Madman Theory or the Madman Doctrine is why Trump behaves like he does, which a lot of his critics don't understand, which is if you think, and I guess I'm a student of this too. If you think somebody will do literally anything, like you cannot predict how they will retaliate. And for the slightest of perceived insults, they might retaliate with massive, brutal punishment, which is typically how I like to operate. You just don't go there. It's not worth it.

There's no point risking that, right? But to your point about the contracts, interesting thing happening in media at the moment. All of the people who took those deals are beginning to fall and fade. Nobody talks about Ben Shapiro anymore. Candace Owens has gone completely crazy. All of those big – the people who took advantage of the censored and the canceled in 2017 who kind of – you might say stole our audiences. Those guys, the Wilkes Brothers and whatever. you might say stoler audiences those guys you know

the Wilkes Brothers and the you know whatever so the Wilkes Brothers are Texan billionaires who have funded most of the worst people in conservative media

you know the sort of people who people who are rabid rabid Zionists even by Republican standards drop some names

and well I just did you know the Daily Wire Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro. What do you think is crazy about Candace Owens? Rabid Zionist, I mean. Well, she's gone the opposite way now because she's left. It's a bit more complicated. I'll get to that.

So she started off that way. She's a creation of The Daily Wire, okay? And she started off as Zionist, all right? That's when they were funding her. Now they're not. You understand the difference? Okay. So, but you called her crazy.

So what is she crazy about now? Well, because she's gone off the board into conspiracy theory because she no longer has a producer and she started to make her own decisions, which is always a mistake for somebody who's never read a book. Fact check, sure.

Candice. No, she's never forgiven me because I roasted her in front of many of, well, actually all of the richest Jews in Palm Beach. We do gotta go to Super Chats. I'll be quick, I'll be quick. The thing that's happening in media that's interesting, I think,

is that, my interruption, all of the people who took those kinds of deals are falling or fading, right? The people who gave their IP, gave their whatever. So if you think of it like this, you have the Mercer ecosystem, which is Bannon, Breitbart, me, Tucker, and Trump. And then you have the Wilkes Brothers ecosystem, which is the Daily Wire and all of the kind of like hyper Zionist Prager, right? Those people are all kind of like faltering at the moment,

the people who took those kinds of deals. And the people who didn't are starting to like spark up a little bit. And in this, and as we're, you know, the reason Candice is in the trouble she's in is she got lured out of the safe environments of the Daily Wire, independent, and then lured into a variety of crazy positions by Nick Fuentes, who told her, we got you. I'm going to give you access to my gigantic audience of like, and it turned out there was no gigantic audience because he's botted to, botted to buggery. Just like all of the other Wilkes Brothers entities, they fake it

till they make it. Ben Shapiro did this. She did this. Nick Fenton is attempting to do it just without the money, which is going to be a very, very nasty end for him. But she's been lured out of this. Point being this, there's an opening now. There is a huge market opportunity now for people who said no.

And I did the same thing. I was brought into WME and they gave me the same offer they gave you. And I said um no um there's a huge market opportunity now as all of those people who astro turfed their way to supposed fame to like number one podcasts none of their listeners are real none of their um average you know their advertisers are not getting what they paid for the listeners aren't real the uh the viewers aren real. The book purchasers aren't real. All their books are. So if you know this, but when you when you write a book, so the books that I write are like actually popular for, you know, for politicians and whatnot.

If you are an unpopular person, you can pay about $500,000 to a firm that will buy loads of copies of your book in various different places to game the New York Times algorithm to make you a New York Times bestselling author. It costs about half a million on a good week. A million if there's another good book out. All the people who did this, who have burned through millions, are now all kind of like fading out of the conversation. So there's a big moment happening. The reason I'm making such a big deal out of this, talking about this for so long is right now is the moment. If you are an up and coming or an enthusiastic conservative podcaster

or a wannabe host, or you want to be somebody like Tim, or you want to be somebody like whatever, now is the moment because there is a huge widening of the market at this exact point in time with trump's election and with the fall and fade of all of the previous gatekeepers and and kingpins um there is a massive opportunity right now in a huge empty space a massive open playing field for you to just take it by ashore mv7 plus plug it into your laptop, get a simple camera, and become really big and really wealthy. We've got to go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know, and go to timcast.com right

now. Click join us, become a member. We're going to have an uncensored show in about 20 minutes. Now, I've seen some people have signed up on YouTube memberships. That is totally different. So let me clarify for you, for those that are listening, timcast.com separate website. You click join us or sign up. You become a member 10 bucks a month.

And then we're going to have that members only show on the front page of the site. You'll see it in a little window. It'll say uncensored 10 PM. Let's grab some super chats. Before we do that. Where did you get this from? This,

this shearling denim thing, Ralph Lauren. All right. Super chats. Oh dear. So, where did you get this from, this shearling denim thing? Ralph Lauren. All right, super chats. Oh, dear. So the first super chat is wonderful. It says, from Cricket Smile, Asterion from Baldur's Gate 3 is on Timcast tonight. So why don't I just, let's see if I can pull up

anything from Asterion. Have you seen any of this? Yes, the developer who sent me it. Yeah, yeah. I think he says darling a lot. He certainly does. Have you seen any of this? Yes, the developer who sent me it, yeah. I think he says darling a lot. He certainly does. See if we can get some interaction. A vampire's spawn is less than a slave.

We have no choice but to obey our master's commands. I heard it in the first syllable. They speak and our bodies react. They had this guy listen to you speak. There's no other way. People think the biggest threat to a vampire is a character with a... Oh, man. Here we go.

...even remember his own face... Come on. ...there. I don't care about... I don't want to hear this person talk. I want to hear... Here we go. If you just get into it.

Ed Kress? this is the guy. ...are going to go to town with this. Soon, there'll be mods letting you have sex with all kinds of different animals. No. They could have just hired me to do it. They could have. That would have been the proper thing to do. Let's see what we got here.

What is this? Oh, come on. Tick to do. Let's see what we got here. What is this? Oh, come on, TikTok. These are awful. Is there no YouTube video with just... It's like you just... I've been spent... I already know about a... I'm the most powerful vampire in the realms.

I don't know why, I just think it's adorable. I'm the most powerful vampire in the realms. I don't know why. I just think it's adorable. I'm the most powerful vampire in the realms. Yeah. Okay. All right. I get it. I hear it.

I hear it. All right. Okay. Let's grab some more. Let's see what we got. Let's see. Bastards. Cryptic Coil says,

Myla, there's a character yet on american horror story that reminds me of that reminds me of you myrtle snow she's in season three and eight which one's myrtle snow i don't know the one that reminds me of me is that is the nurse in the um in uh grotesquery on uh fx at the moment if anyone's seen that i will will stress, you know, I get Baldur's Gate 3, like right when it comes out, download it, I play it, within a few minutes, you meet Astarion, and I was like, holy crap, I'm texting people being like, dude, are you seeing this?

No, they told me, they told me. Like, they modeled this character after you. Many such cases. You know, I don't like to toot my own horn, as anybody who knows me will tell you, but you know there's plenty of legends, there's only one icon. Okay, so Mark Giudetti says, Tim, you are so wrong tonight. Sodom and Gomorrah are the Old Testament, which is the Jewish Torah. Stop being a know-it-all when you don't.

Christians don't have any of the Old Testament, huh? I think the Old Testament has more than the Torah. So the—I am correct. You are wrong. Blackstone's formulation was rooted in the teachings of Sodom and Gomorrah, and if there's but one righteous person, that is true. Read. Read it. That's a fact. It doesn't mean anything beyond that. I'm not a Christian.

But that's the basis of, it is better that 10 guilty persons go free than one that doesn't suffer. What's good about you, Tim, and what I appreciate about you is that even though that you have not yet, or maybe never will reach that point in a- I was Christian when I was younger. A faith journey, you nonetheless recognize that the, let's say that, you know, that the principles that the faith inspires in people, that the context of Christianity, the moral framework,

is what makes society functioning, stable, prosperous, healthy, and it's what America was based on. And a lot of people who don't have that personal kind of faith will try. I remember very vividly Joe Rogan in 2017 bucking against this when I said it. At least you do recognize that what makes your country great is, at least in part, is Christian moral ethics, even if you can't quite get yourself there. And I respect that about you.

There's the IQ bell curve meme of the guy whose eyes are on the side of his head. Yes. And he says God is real. Then there's the monk who's very intelligent, says God is real. Yes. And there's the guy in the middle crying, saying there's no God. Absolutely. And so there is a challenge in, you know, when I've talked to people who are Christian and they don't quite know the logic behind the Ten Commandments and why they are functional and important for society to make sense. It's because you live in a country where everyone's retarded. But I will say this, it is better... I mean, if you talk to a well-educated European Catholic, I mean, you'll be

like, oh my god, every science just springs out of this. You just need better friends. My point is, it is better that people follow these things, even if they don't understand why, than they don't follow them at all. Of course, we do it with everything else. Why not with that? But we did this on the show a couple of years ago with Seamus. We went through the Ten Commandments

as from, and I said, take this outside of the context of religion and logically apply them and discuss why these things make sense. Honor your father and mother makes complete sense. Without the family structure, societies collapse. Don't murder. Duh. Societies collapse. And even as simply put as, have no gods before me. If you are following other laws that can lead to destruction, that will lead to societal collapse. There's a logic behind it all. Which is the basis also of religious freedom being restricted to Christianity. Because look, Christianity is congruent and compatible with the Bill of Rights. Other religions aren't.

The Bill of Rights are based upon. Exactly. Because you cannot have complete freedom from consequence saying whatever you want, however you want, whenever you want, with no consequence, with Judaism or with Islam. It doesn't work. Let's read some more Super Chats.

What do we got here? Jason Hutton says, Holy Milo. Ian dialed Beyond 11. Much love to you all and appreciate the discourse and enlightenment. Well, there you go.

Ian. He's not here. I know. I'm greatly aggrieved by that. I'm wounded by it. But when we get to the members show, if you haven't signed up, go do it right now

because I got some stuff to say about yesterday. All right. Sophi and Nima nema says elad how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday i'm not sure how i'd feel is this one of those dumb jokes they're calling you a stupid black person it's uh it's i don't know i guess i'm not online there's no racial component to it yeah there is there is. It's an IQ thing. Basically, this was a... But he...

No, it was a 4chan meme that began with a court case involving a black defendant who was asked, how would you have felt if you did such and such? She's like, well, I did do such and such. Yeah, but how would you have felt?

He wasn't able to understand hypotheticals. He wasn't able to understand... Conditional hypotheticals. He wasn't able to understand... Conditional hypotheticals was... Yes. It's sort of a sub-ATIQ thing, so that's what that was. Well, no, he answered correctly. He said, I don't know how it would have felt.

Yes, he surprised us all. He's got fighting words for you, Alan. We'll have fun in the members' session. Milo comes from somewhere. he comes from a Muslim country. For him to pretend he's coming here and saving our country is just so funny and rich. Save it for the members-only segment before it gets too funny. Too funny. All right, what do we have?

We'll grab some more. I'm scrolling down here and we're getting the, here we go. The line says, Jefferson was a deist. He compiled his own New Testament, which stripped the divinity from the Yeshua story, but still recognized the movement derived thereof and good and moral. A lot wrong as usual. And I think there was only a couple that were considered deist and overwhelmingly Christian. And so the context about like, why didn't they write that were Christians? And it's like why don't the fish it's it's the fish in the water why don't fish say they live in the ocean why didn't they say it explicitly because they didn't intend for it to be an explicitly christian nation they didn't write it anywhere it's like listening to ian talk about fractals i can't do it i can't

do it i can't do it it's like look elad first we love gotta say we love ian we love we love elad we love him if there's any way it needs to go in the crystals it's gotta be the guy that has you know the biggest collection of them surely considering let me just say

on this point I am not I have not read all of Federalist Papers I have read letters I have read some of the writings

specifically essays and theories of the Founding Fathers and it is fairly explicit if you have not done any of these things can you pull one up of the federalist papers where you think it's explicit then maybe we'll do it in

the after show okay i'm just i'm just saying this i'm just saying i've never i've never met anybody who conjures in my mind more vividly than you do the vision of a shelf of uncracked spines okay of a of a of a vast library that's never been expressed to you guys. I'm trying to explain how he says it. The uncracked spine. If you know

you have not read any of these things, then you should be careful to assert with fact. Okay. I've done enough research into our founding documents and I think it's abundantly clear.

All right. Well, we'll do it in the after show. And just for the record, there is a consensus on this issue of whether or not people believe that the country and the founders believed for it to be a Christian nation or not.

It's like a democrat saying you can't own a cannon. It's like, well it doesn't say you can't have a cannon, but the founding fathers owned cannons. They had privateers. They were corsairs. I'm excited for you to pull up Christianity in the Federalist Papers. I don't love the First and Second Amendment without a sort of Christian requirement. But there is a part of me having lived here for so long, and I did do that British thing of like, I'm in a truck, and this is awesome. Let me read some more.

I do feel if you can afford a surface-to-air missile, you should probably be allowed to have one. If I've got $20 million to buy one, I probably should be able to have one. And there are private corporations that manufacture these things. And they have a writ from the government, like there was run by my very good friends. Alright, Patriot Tax says, as an Anglican, yes, America was founded as a

Christian nation. England is also a Christian nation. I pray she realizes it soon before she's conquered by Islam. Ah, England. England needs a Trump of their own. We are all mourning for the England of years gone by, and there's no shame and no point denying that, no other thing to say about it. I think England made a, you know, the greatest mistake, the greatest geopolitical mistake of the last 100 years is not keeping India close because India has been forced through neglect and abuse and negligence to line up with India, with China, all the rest of it.

When India is, in some respects, the guardian, the custodian of all of the best things of Britain, right? Whether it's education or manners or language. I mean, educated Indians speak better English than the English do. And the great tragedy for me geopolitically of the last hundred years is that we allowed India to wander off through neglect and through not looking after our friends or through maybe through shame for colonialism,

which is of course ridiculous. And forge alliances they should never have had to, have been forced to. India had no choice. And it's largely because the US sided with Pakistan in certain circumstances. Again, remarkably stupid.

You're going to like this next Super Chat, so I just want to try and get this in. All right. Fatboy says, I feel like if the founders wanted this to be an only Christian nation, they wouldn't have included that whole no establishment of a religion thing at the start of the Constitution. Well, then you have to answer the question of why in all of the other founding documents they say the inalienable rights come from God. And I think it's important to point out, Milo already made this point in the show, that the concern was not that this country would not be religious, but that there were different factions of Christianity that, if you take a look at Ireland, people are not too fond of each other over there.

It's not unique to Christianity. Monotheism is not unique to Christianity. So God still doesn't have any contradictions. He's right. They should have wrote Yahweh or something. No, they should have wrote Christianity. They should have mentioned Jesus explicitly if they believed it, and they didn't for a reason. Well, you're lucky they didn't. Why am I lucky they didn't, Mario? The practical reality. Why? Because you wouldn't be eligible for it.

I think that's why they explicitly didn't, Mario. That's why we founded the church. Let's move on. Let's move on. The practical reality of the 18th century was that they were casting off, as they perceived, the shackles of the father country, and that the British monarch was the head of the Anglican church. So there was no choice but to invent a new one, which we now know is the Episcopalian church,

and to allow for other people who had different Protestant, as I would put it, different varieties of heresy, different varieties of Protestantism, so they didn't war with each other. And it is that simple. And it is not a controversial thing among any historian or academic. Jonathan Foreman says, Tim, we need Ian Moonlord, Lord Moonbeam versus Milo Chaos God in a debate on anything. You know, I was slightly sad not to see Ian here, but just because I enjoy being cruel. But I felt I gave him enough the last time.

But if there is, I'll repeat, because I think somebody was talking over me, but if there's anybody that deserves to go in the crystals, it's surely the guy that owns more of them than anybody I know. Ian has got to go in the crystals. Jaded Soul says, Milo, my aunt loves you. She greatly enjoyed your book, Dangerous.

Can you give Tara a birthday shout out? Tara, a happy birthday. I'm sorry you're old. As somebody who just turned 40, I now too am dealing with the vicissitudes and horrors of old age. I've started to get charley horses in the morning. The real reason for this beanie is I'm losing my hair. No, I've been bleaching it for so... No, it's not. It was a tribute to you. It was a tribute to you after Joe stole my look. I have always taken the view that birthdays should be for other people. And so if you are celebrating your birthday today, take a little moment in between opening gifts from others to remember to do something really lovely for somebody else. Because birthdays are nice to be celebrated. And I go through my whole life being celebrated of course because I'm wonderful but but on my birthday I

try to take a break from that and to do something lovely for others and so if happy birthday but if in the hours that remain take a little moment to do something kind for somebody who's not expecting it from you all right we got two here they're just for Milo the first one is from david brickham milo is one of the most philosophical intelligent and hilarious people you've had on the show i've cried laughing these days there's nothing funnier than the truth but hold your horses milo because tyler b says milo is the personification of if i'm louder than you i'm right because all he can do is talk and sing his way over everyone when he realizes he is wrong. As a gay man myself, we need to bring back bullying.

Oh, well, there you go. Get back to sucking. I doubt Milo realizes he's wrong. No, no. I had to give you both the Milo is the best and Milo is the worst at the same time. I can't comment on the second super chat having never been wrong.

But I will say, if you want to hear me sing, albums are available. Bad romance. I do want to hear me sing, albums are available. Bad Romance. I do want to do a Christmas album. I've always wanted to do like a big band Christmas album. Sounds fun. Maybe you could do a sort of emo thrash bonus track or something. But I've always wanted to do a Christmas album.

We'll talk about it afterwards. All right. YouTube's on the fritz again. Carl Smith says, Milo, in the immortal words of Mr. Rogers, the one thing that evil cannot stand is forgiveness. I think that is the quote, at least. Yes, and you know, something that has been really... You know, look, I'm paid a lot of money

by all kinds of people whose names I can't mention because, you know, they're not supposed to know me to do, in some cases, quite awful things to people. But the thing that hurts your enemies the most is to tell them that you love them, that you forgive them, and that you wish the best for them, that you are praying for them,

and that you want them to be better than they are. And I try to, I've always tried to take that kind of, that it's not really a speck, more of a huge shard of dark flint in my heart I've always tried to take that kind of, it's not really a speck really, more of a huge shard of dark flint in my heart that enjoys Schadenfreude and all the rest of it. And I've tried to channel it for good. I've not always succeeded.

I've not always done a perfect job of this, but I'm getting better at it. And I try to use that bit of me that I don't always love so much for good. And so I've learned through my occasional churlishness and cruelty that nothing hurts somebody who kind of knows that they're doing wrong and kind of knows that they're screwing up, like you're telling them that you forgive them and that you love them and that you hope that they see the light and that they,

you know, that they come home to the Lord and that they come home to the truth. And honestly, you know, it's the greatest lesson I've learned in the last 10 years. I agree. And so I've told this story before that I tip bad servers very well. Oh, I don't tip at all. Oh, I tip bad servers. I don't believe in rewarding failure. No, well...

If you're a server over the age of, you know, 19, I mean... So my point... I mean, come on. It's a bit like taxation. All right, well, we're going to go to the members. It's like taxation. It's like taxation, isn't it? What's wrong with taking from the poor to give to the rich? Poor people are terrible with money.

If they weren't terrible with money, they wouldn't be poor. Make this point before we go to the members show. I really don't understand this. Why would you tip so? Margaret Thatcher said, if you get the bus to work after the age of 30, you have failed as a man. You have failed as a human being. I mean, my gosh.

So the best taxation is regressive taxation, which taxes the poor at 20% and tapers down. So if you're earning over a million dollars a year, you pay nothing. Nothing. All right. Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody. We'll see you all next time. Rewards the people who do good in society, who create the jobs, and punishes the people who don't get out of bed in the morning. So my point is, when someone's being rude, crass, or lazy, or indifferent, when you leave them a good tip, they feel guilt.

But I digress. No, they don't. They just think you're a mug. It's like, that white boy just lent me 50 bucks. You were wrong. No, stop. No, you look them in the eyes. All right, everybody, smash that like button.

Look them in the eyes and you say, like I did. On X and Instagram at TimCast. Head over to TimCast.com right now. Go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because we're going to complain about religion. Oh, I'm going to let you know about tipping in just a few minutes. Milo, where can they find you? Just a few minutes.

Well, in a couple of days, just a couple of short days, you'll be able to order on Amazon and all good bookstores, The Wit and Wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes. I couldn't be more thrilled about this stocking stuffer for Christmas. It's been endorsed by everybody you love. And this really, like I said, I don't want to give away too much. But this book is probably my best book. And it's a very exciting thing for me. It's a very, it's an emotional moment for me to publish it

because, of course, this person started as a mentee of mine and then in the end sort of went dark, you know. I'm responsible. You'll never know the pain. You'll never know the pain of waking up at 3 a.m. and realize, you know, in a cold sweat and thinking you're, realizing you're responsible, not just for Nick Fuentes, but for Lady Marga too.

You know, but I feel I've rede um you know but but i've i feel i've redeemed myself i feel i feel i've been on a redemptive box look if you want to find me look up on amazon um you'll find this wonderful book in a couple of days and in the meantime i have been restored i've been restored to twitter you can find me at nero on twitter which is um the christian n word we're reclaiming it um because of course you know there's a great emperor who all right i can say the real word in the after show. Nero is the Christian N-word. So I'm reclaiming it.

I'm reclaiming it. We got to go. We got to go. Allad, where can they find you? Allad Eliyahu. I'm a journalist here at Timcast. You can find me across all platforms. The Wit and Wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes.

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