Timcast IRL - Biden Pardons WERE FAKE, NYT Report PROVES Trump WAS RIGHT, Fauci Faces Charges w/ Daniel Turner & Myron Gaines

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Tim, Elaad, & Shane are joined by Daniel Turner & Myron Gaines to discuss the NYT exposing the Joe Biden AutoPen scandal, Rand Paul vowing to reissue a criminal refferal of Dr. Fauci, LA to give cash handouts to help illegal immigrants avoid ICE, and a new memo from ICE declaring illegal immigrants can be deported to "third" countries with only 6 hours notice.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Shane @ShaneCashman (everywhere) |  @TalesfromtheInvertedWorld  (YouTube, Rumble) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Daniel Turner @DanielTurnerPTF (X) Myron Gaines @MyronGainesX (X)

In a bombshell report from the New York Times, they admit not only did Joe Biden have all these pardons signed by AutoPen, but he actually wasn't even aware of some of them. Now the funny thing is the headline is Biden says he approved of these, considering their reporting that he didn't know about some of them and that the aides just took it upon themselves to go do this. Well, it says that that's it right there. How could these pardons be valid if the only one that actually appears to have been signed is the pardoning of Hunter Biden? Rand Paul has said that he is reissuing his criminal referral for Dr. Fauci.

There's got the J-6 committee, you've got Dr. Fauci, you've got Biden's family, all of those pardons in question, not to mention all of the other individuals because there was a big pardon that all the presidents do. These are people in prison you probably never even heard of. All of them now in question. We're talking about that. Plus we got some other really big stories. I don't know how else to say this because guys, you know, on this show I often refrain and I argue as hard as possible that people are not committing treason. They say, oh, you know that Democrat did that people are not committing treason. They say, oh, you know, that Democrat did this or that lawyer committed treason.

I'm like, no, treason is adhering to the enemies of the United States. What most people are referring to with like Comey and these investigations is sedition, trying to undermine or overthrow the government. Treason is when you betray your country to foreign individuals, to enemies of the United States. Mayor Karen Bass has announced that she will be partnering with private individuals to give money to illegal immigrants that are here illegally and that are currently trying to evade federal law enforcement. Now Trump has already declared an invasion. He has targeted these marijuana farms.

There's concerns about child slave labor. They recovered, I think it might be either 14 or 20 child slaves working on these farms. Trump's saying, we're going to send in law enforcement and shut this down. Strong likelihood that there is an overlap between these narco gangs, these cartels. And now we're hearing Karen Bass says she's gonna give them cash Quite literally to the letter of the law that is treason And I I don't say that lightly But I don't have another word for it when Donald Trump the president of the United States declares an invasion and says these people

Are an invasive force on our country. We are going to start deporting these narco gangs, MS-13, et cetera. This is the first step over the line where a politician is providing funding and resources to individuals by which Trump has already said, we are being invaded. So tell me what you think that means, but I'm gonna read the law to you. And I think this is the first step of the line

of where we can actually say that is treasonous. This is an insane thing to be seen, but they are pushing that line. We've also got more on the Epstein story, because apparently, Laura Trump says, there are more Epstein documents they're gonna release. So this whole story is nuts. Charlie Kirk put out a video saying,

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You're gonna wanna make this show, okay? The 26 we've got right now, we've got, you got me and Alex Stein, you got Matan, you guys know this guy, he's a funny guy, he's got a big YouTube channel, and then we got Gavin McInnis. Now you may be saying, okay, that sounds like fun, I wanna come to that.

What I can't say is that we are still trying, the reason why we held off so long on confirming all this is because we are trying to get a prominent liberal who I think having him sit down and have this debate and discussion on is Trump still winning would be a sellout show. The moment, not because the prominent liberal is someone you wanna listen to,

but because you wanna see them argue with Gavin, me, and Mattan, and Alex, and it will be big. So because we're still working out the dates and the time to see if we can make it happen, I can't announce them. And so I don't wanna get your hopes up. But I think the moment we are able to confirm this individual if we do get them, it's gonna sell out in a single day because it's gonna be hilarious.

It'll be hilarious. So pick up your tickets now while you still can. Smash the like button, share the show with everyone. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more actually Myron Gaines is not here. His flight got stranded on the tarmac because I think it was a lightning alert. And so when the lightning alert happens,

they pull everyone off and dude is just sitting in the plane. He was just sitting in the plane for hours. So he's on his way here now. And if he does get here, he will jump on and join the show. But Daniel Turner is also here. I'm here. It's great to be here. Daniel Turner, Power of the Future. Nice to be back. Thanks for having me.

And I'm going to get beamed because I am married to a notorious bad sleeper. So I'm excited about this. It's great. But here's, you know, we often have guests on. And I ask, you know, Lisa, did you book them at this time on purpose? I feel like it was a coincidence. You actually testified on auto-pen use. I did, yeah. Into Congress. My organization, Power of the Future,

was doing it on the environmental executive orders, because obviously we fight environmental groups. And yeah, so I testified a couple weeks ago on the AutoPen use, and when we get into the conversation, I got a lot to say. Oh yeah. So I'm excited. Shane's hanging out.

I'm looking forward to talking about the AutoPen. I just found out it was like a giant robot, thought it was a DocuSign app. Everyone should look it up. But yeah, Shane Cashman here, host of Inverted World Live. I'll be leaving here around 9.30 tonight to go host my show at 10 o'clock on Rumble and YouTube. 10 o'clock to midnight.

Phone lines will be open. We'll take your phone calls if you have any strange stories you want to share with us. And we'll be talking about a military jet that was hit by a UFO and declassified documents from 2023 that have just been released, a lot. Awesome. Good evening, everybody. I am Elad Eliyahu, White House correspondent

and field reporter here at Timcast. Let's get into the news. I just want to mention one quick thing too for those watching live on YouTube. They just launched that top fans feature, which apparently is the more you super chat and post, the more bonuses you get. And then it like gives you a crown. If you're into that kind of thing. I thought it was funny. I'm excited. We got it. It looks, it looks cool. We'll see what happens. But, uh, you know,

we also got our rumble rants and our members only exclusive rumble uncensored show at 10 o'clock. Don't want to miss it. Let's jump into the news. We got this from the New York times. Biden says Let's jump into the news. We got this from the New York Times. Biden says he made the clemency decisions that were recorded with AutoPen. Whew, I was worried there for a minute. You know, I thought for a second that Biden didn't actually do it.

Oh, let me actually scroll down more than halfway through the story to find this. Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to large numbers of people, he and AIDS confirmed. Rather, after extensive discussion of different possible criteria, he signed off on the standards he wanted to be used to determine which convicts would qualify for a reduction in sentence. Even after Mr. Biden made the decision, one former AIDS set, the Bureau of Prisons kept

providing additional information about specific inmates, resulting in small changes to the list. Rather than ask Mr. Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version through the auto pen, which they saw as routine. So they buried that halfway down, but there's a lot more. There's one. Let me see if I can get this one. This one's massive. This is the actual smoking gun. Mr. Biden completed the list of high profile clemency decisions over two meetings. The emails show one on January 18th included Mr. Zients.

Is that how you pronounce it? Mr. Siskel, another aide, Bruce Reed. Another on the evening of January 19th, his final night as president, was with Mr. Siskel. They say the emails show that Mr. Biden added the preemptive pardons for his family at the January 19th meeting. They also suggest that he changed some of his thinking,

but there's more. The emails show that an aid to Mr. Siskill sent a draft summary of Mr. Biden's decision to the, at that meeting to an assistant to Mr. Zients, copying Mr. Siskill at 10 or 3 p.m. The assistant forwarded it to Mr. Reed and Mr. Zients asking for their approval and then sent a final version to Ms. Feldman copying many meeting participants

and aides at 10.28. Three minutes later, Zients hit reply on wrote, I approve the use of the auto pen for the execution of all of the following pardons. That means between 10.03, 10 1028, and then three minutes later, 1031, there was no possible time for this staffer to go to Joe Biden and say, are these pardons confirmed? In fact, this guy who I've never heard of, Mr. Zients, approved pardons to the staff who used the auto pen. Void. They should all be void. I don't know how we, this is crazy.

The president can't delegate away pardon powers, at least as far as I know. You know Biden's asleep by six o'clock. Yeah, I was gonna say that. Biden was definitely not awake at 10 48 PM, 10 38. Now here's the big hammer. The lead of the story that should have been the first sentence.

Mr. Biden granted Hunter Biden a full pardon in December, 2024. It was the only clemency warrant in that period that Mr. Biden signed with his own hand. Wow. That's the lead story. Aids confirm Biden did not sign off on the individual pardons.

It's evil. I'm curious if he did the pardon with the auto pen for the judge who was getting kickbacks for cash for kids you know what that story it's an insane story that that guy got pardoned as well but that's what they do at the end just like Bill Clinton pardoning whether underground terrorists I mean Trump did it yeah I know I think it should be totally totally banned yeah we were like what about Snowden or like Ross Ulrich? Saanj.

Or Saanj. Yeah. Yeah, so President Trump has said many times whoever was controlling the auto pen, that's who the president was. So according to those emails back and forth, Mr. Zients was the acting president. Because if he has the authority to say, I approve this,

let's whip out the auto pen, then you've approved the pardon. I was doing some quick math and I had to Google this one. are 84,000 seconds in a day all right so that was my starting point 84,000 seconds in a day on that one day he pardoned 1,500 people if he gave every one of those people one minute of time that's 90,000 seconds so and you cannot physically spend an entire day looking through those so they didn't even get one minute. So if I have to, like, if I'm president,

they're like, you should pardon Tim Pool. Let me see his file. You got to, Tim Pool deserves at least a minute. No, the American people deserve at least a minute of me as president reviewing whether or not I give Tim Pool a pardon. He didn't even get that. 1,500 people were just freaking run through the machine,

and someone else just added their names to that. And that is such a violation of everything we hold sacred that you're absolutely right, they are all null and void. And now those who are null and void are also should return to jail. And if you were not in jail and you got one of the preemptive pardons, well, now you're up for criminal prosecution.

You know, I feel bad for, like there's at least some people people who the pardons are probably not that big a deal. Maybe there's some, like, nonviolent offender and they were going to be, they were facing 10 years and Biden reduced it to time served after like six. And it's like, well, they committed a crime, they're bad, but you know, this is whatever. And now it's like, you might have to go back. Yeah.

The violent offenders that get pardons, I'm just like, send it back anyway. Yeah, I agree. But imagine finding out that your pardon, which was promised, is being voided because Joe Biden was sleeping. Because Joe Biden didn't pardon you. Mr. Zients pardoned you. There was no Joe Biden.

He doesn't have you. There was no Joe Biden. So just so we have a little bit more background, this Jeff Zients guy, he's actually Joe Biden's chief of staff. He was for two years, and he's held multiple different positions through the Obama and then earlier in the Joe Biden administration. The reason that it's important that you go through each individual case is because you

don't actually know, like there are details in each specific crime that lead to different things. One of the more outlandish people that was granted clemency was the infamous cash for kids for cash judge, this this guy named who was it Michael Conahan and he was this guy in one of the states who was getting kickbacks from jail so he would try to he was encouraged to send more kids to jail at the time so he gave out these outrageous sentences so like things like this fall through the crack as a result of this I am I think it's also fascinating how this is for a Democrat pretty much political malpractice. The Trump administration right now is struggling with a specific story. Let's not mention it this scene in the episode,

but while the Trump administration is struggling with that, this is the lead story for the New York Times. So it's like, Joe Biden, you're too dumb to keep your mouth shut for the Democrat sake because now this is only red meat for the MAGA base, which Trump is struggling to keep fully on his side. So this story is a perfect distraction for that, and it isn't going anywhere. This is a story that the president was talking about for a long time. And I also will mention, because I only today really learned

what the auto pen literally was, because Shane mentioned something and told me to look it up. I thought it was DocuSign. I use DocuSign for all of my document signing needs, and it's like this automatic thing online where I just click one button and it writes my signature. No, this is like a physical contraption that moves with the stroke similar to it's a little arms And it and it moves me it looks like Joe Biden Yeah, I'm just having to pull it up like why the timing is so fascinating

Obviously the former president has an ego and he was trying to defend his legacy right now That's um, Can I buy this? We should get one. You can buy one. Sure. Yeah. It's like a 1970s CNC. Yeah, but this is a process crime because this is kept in a room under lock and key

and people need to go in and people need to get the paper. There are a lot of bad actors in this process and they are all to a certain extent Culpable and you can't say well, I was just following orders that doesn't that doesn't fly anymore I just wanted to to follow up on this Cash for kids judge that I mentioned kids for cash judge that I mentioned because I do feel like it was significance kind of hands Inclusion sparked harsh blowback him being included being given Clemency even Pennsylvania Democrat governor, Josh Shapiro criticized Biden for getting it absolutely wrong. He said it created a lot of pain here in North Pennsylvania.

So this guy was convicted in 2011 of funneling juveniles to a for-profit detention center in exchange for more than $2 million in kickbacks. He was sentenced to more than 17 years in prison. Many people would say that's not enough. But the issue again with not reviewing closely is that scumbags like- Mr. Zietz.

America, I would like to introduce you to your president circa 2021, 25. There you go. We started investigating the auto pen stuff because there were so many climate executive orders. It's drawing a butt. What are you drawing? Anyway, continue.

There were so many climate executive orders that just came out with a signature and that we never saw the president talk about it. So probably the most egregious one was when Biden's auto pen said that we were banning the sale and the export of liquid natural gas. And so obviously in the fossil fuel world, it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa the sale and the export of liquid natural gas. And so obviously in the fossil fuel world, it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The president's banning liquid natural gas? Yep, banned.

Starting in January, it was banned. And if you remember, Mike Johnson, as Speaker of the House had an interesting exchange. He said, I was talking to the president and I asked him, why did you ban LNG? And he said, I didn't do that. And he was like, yeah, Mr. President, you did. And at the time that was understood as, wow, Biden is in such bad shape, I didn't do that. And he was like, yeah, Mr. President, you did. And at the time, that was understood as, wow,

Biden is in such bad shape, he doesn't even remember. But then we realized, as an organization, we were like, oh, no, no, he didn't even know he did it. Like, the crazy Greens in the White House were like, let's ban LNG. And they were like, damn, here's the auto pen. They put it through. So we came up with a whole series of executive orders

on climate, the banning drilling in the Arctic, banning drilling in the outer continental shelf. That we were like, Biden never spoke about this in first person. Now, not everyone makes as big gestures as President Trump. He holds them up and everyone sees. But to have the president ban the sale of natural gas and never get asked about it, never talk about it,

never get questions by the press, we were like, this guy doesn't know what the hell's happening. So there was a lot of those happening quickly, and then you were like, we should look into this? We found eight in particular that are huge, and that bankrupted people's companies. If you're selling natural gas, and the White House announces it's now illegal to sell it, to export it,

you're like, well, there goes the business. We mortgage the house. Sorry, Mom. We're out of it. Lives were ruined over this. Terrible. And all of our European allies bought Russian gas because we stopped selling American. So they were like, who can be the mediary for Russian natural gas? The Turks, which again, they're part of NATO. Turkey was like, yeah, we'll be the mediary. We'll buy it from Russia and we'll sell it to France and Germany and Italy." So it created hell. Of course.

Well, let's just add this to the mix. Rand Paul saying, today I will resume, I'm sorry, reissue my criminal referral for Anthony Fauci to Trump DOJ. So I want to read this portion, which is, this is from the New York Times story. It says, at the January 19th meeting, which took place in the yellow oval room of the White House residence, Mr. Biden kept his aides until nearly 10 p.m. to talk through such decisions, according to people familiar with the matter. The emails show that an aide to Mr. Siskel sent a draft of a summary of his Mr. Biden's decisions at that meeting to an assistant to Mr. Zin. So like this is convoluted.

An aide to Mr. Siskel sent a draft of purportedly Mr. Biden's decisions to an assistant to Mr. Zients. Okay? So these are two assistants talking to each other. Copying Mr. Siskel at 1003, the assistant forwarded to Mr. Reed and Mr. Zients asking for their approval and then sent a final version to Ms. Feldman. Feldman was the one who ran them through the AutoPen, copying many participants.

Three minutes later, Mr. Zintz, it replied all and wrote, "'I approve the use of AutoPen "'for the execution of all the following pardons.'" This is why Rand Paul is saying Fauci for jail, not the full reason is because Fauci lied to Congress, but he's saying this is why the belief now is, and this is a Senator saying this,

the pardons are void. Yeah. They have to be void. Lock them up. They have to be void because Joe Biden didn't pardon them. He pardoned the process, and that's not the same as saying, I pardon you, right? Like I will come up with a structure. That's not how, you know,

this is where it's gonna go to the courts. Eventually everything else goes to the damn courts I assume this will get litigated to a certain point but otherwise what is the role of the president if it can be delegated to the staffers then we don't have a president we have a figurehead and the staffers do everything wouldn't be the I think I think AutoPen is clearly unconstitutional should be banned no it should be totally fine for like happy seventh birthday to Peter and Marsha. Like that is allowed. Like auto pen to sign Merry Christmas. Let's ban that too.

That's what it's supposed to be used for. That's a dick move. That's what it's supposed to be used for. Imagine, I still think it's a dick move. So fine, I guess it's allowed. But could you imagine if it's like your birthday and then you get a letter and it's like a signature and you're like, oh wow, thanks. And then someone comes and I'm like, imagine that. Someone came to me and said, Tim, you know that card you sent to Daniel for his birthday? And I go, I didn't send him a card for his birthday. That's exactly what happened with Joe Biden.

How many times did that happen? And that's totally fine when you get 40,000 emails a day saying, can you send a letter to my mom for her birthday? Of course, President Trump or President Biden is not going to sign 40,000 birthday cards. Like that means my Trump autograph stuff's not real? But a lot, well that's why a real autograph is real. And that's the problem. Like if you auto-penned Willie Mays' signature, this baseball is worth nothing. We take them all to Pawn Stars now to get these verified?

Yeah. So then it's an auto, I mean there's validity, there's power in the signature, and that's why you can't forge it. That actually is funny, like now, there's validity, there's power in the signature, and that's why you can't forge it. That actually is funny, like, now that there's this auto pen scandal, someone might go to Pawn Stars and be like, I have this photo of Joe Biden with Richard Nixon signed by Joe Biden, and they're like, mm, was it?

So, I think one of the problems that the Trump administration ran into with another story was over promising and under delivering and The political cynic in me suggests that the same thing is going to be happening here I don't suspect that anybody who actually received a pardon is gonna have it withdrawn or whatnot I don't actually think that Fauci is going to face justice in any you know I hope you're wrong like while the optimist in me, I mean no, I'm purely cynical. I don't think this is actually going anywhere and I feel like we're being, you know,

this is just a story to help calm the base down. I hope you're wrong. I know this is coming from the time. I hope you're wrong, but I think so. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Are you saying over the Epstein stuff? I'm saying they over-promise and under-deliver for the Epstein stuff and they could learn from that

by not over-promising and under-delivering in the case here with the parties. It's a lot, wait,. In light, real quick, can you name a story where the Republicans under-promised and over-performed? No, I mean, it's in the politician's nature to, but I mean, it's really biting the administration in a recent story, in the Epstein case story, and now I think it's gonna bite them

when none of this comes to fruition in the future, because again, I don't think Fauci's going to face any real justice. Agreed, but I don't think the New York Times wrote this to appease the base of Trump. I do think there's a catastrophe, a crisis in the Epstein story for which there's no way they make it go away.

And it's really silly now. I think, what was it? Charlie Kirk was saying, you know, did he talk to Trump? Is that what happened? He got the phone call. Let's put an allegedly in there. Allegedly, the president gave him a phone call

and was upset, especially with how much talk of Epstein was going on at the TPUSA summit. We'll get into the, I don't want to go too hard on that stuff now, because we do have some stories to pull up there. I just, the New York Times clearly wrote this story to cover up for Biden. That's why the headline of the story is Biden says

he signed off on these pardons. Because when you actually go through it, the New York Times, this is what they do. They're front loading the story. So your average person sees the headline, reads the first paragraph and says, so Biden approved it. But if you actually read the whole way through, you're like, wait a minute.

Now, just real quick, why would the New York Times write their story this way? Instead of just giving me a succinct one paragraph intro, Republicans are investigating the pardons that Joe Biden issued because they're arguing that AutoPen is illegitimate. Aids and staffers ran these pardons through AutoPen without Joe Biden's approval.

End of story. The New York Times wrote this to cover for Democrats, not to shift the narrative off of, I don't think the New York Times was like, let's collude to help Trump. To turn it around on Trump at some point. My own- With his auto-pen use, you know?

Yeah. If there was, I believe there probably was. There was, but I think this term Trump has not used it. Not this term. Because he's signing everything with those big markers. Except for birthday cards and Christmas cards. But my only hope on the Fauci thing is I think Senator Rand Paul has such personal animus for him that I think he, the Trump administration separately, they, you may be right, like they may over promise and under deliver.

But I think, I think Senator Rand Paul has such personal, they had such nasty exchanges. And he's a doctor. He felt like he was questioned as a doctor. So I'm kind of hoping Rand Paul is like a pit bull with this and just goes after it. I agree. I think he has every reason to try to get back into the good graces of the MAGA folk,

because he voted against the president's big, beautiful bill and has been getting a lot of heat from that. Maybe I just look at politics in a much more simple way. I think this definitely would help him because he's posturing on an issue that he aligns with on the MAGA base. But this is the same guy who said he doesn't wanna use the military on illegal immigrants

to help ICE in any capacity. I think he's against mass migration and he's against the Trump agenda that he tried to pass in Congress. But the Fauci thing is one of the biggest stories that we need major accountability for. Sure, if by accountability- He shut down the country. Donald Trump shut down the- He was the president. Oh, Donald Trump got other issues I wanted to-

Trump shut down- Trump proposed the shutdown for two weeks. The states shut down each of their individual states. Some were open, some were closed. Fauci was the figurehead of the destruction. Fauci was advising it, and Fauci was working on gain of function research, which he lied about to Congress, to the Senate. That's why Rand Paul's saying lock him up, because he lied. And Newsweek headline.

They tried to be very nice when they said he was like, what do they say, untruthful comments made? It's like, sure. And then NIH just changed the definition of gain of function, right? And they were like, well, we just changed it. So no, we weren't doing that. Look at our new definition on our new website,

which was released a couple hours ago before I testified. So. Love how that works. Yeah. It just, always just changed the names of everything, you know? All of these guys need to be brought to testify in front of Congress. Yeah.

The chief of staff and then all the people who are involved in these emails should all be dragged in front of Congress and all this should happen before the midterms so the Republicans will still have the majority when it happens. I'm wondering, you know, one of the things too, especially, which we'll get into in a little bit more, but how Democrats are just so pro, like, like pro Epstein release now. I'm like, guys, the challenge I see now, because we mentioned Charlie Kirk saying, I don't trust my friends on this one.

It's like Democrats did not care at all under Biden. They were just not gonna bring it up. And now that Trump promised to do it, but isn't, they're acting like it's the biggest scandal ever. I just don't believe them. Of course you do. Well, I think the president put it succinctly in one of his truth social posts where he

said if there was anything damning related to MAGA or himself, the Biden and Merrick Garland would have, you know, the Biden administration and Merrick Garland definitely would have released it. Why would they have held onto it? Anything relating to Trump, just because the president had some picture with Jeffrey Epstein is why I think Democrats are trying to advance it. I also think Democrats and leftists notice the fissure in MAGA as a result of this, and they will try to push and exploit this

as much as they can. I think although there is some there there to the Epstein story, I think every cynic, every person who's critical of the MAGA agenda will use it to try to create more fissures and exploit that fissure. Yeah, it's the same they do with Elon, right? As soon as they see something that is splitting

the MAGA movement where people are taking sides, the Democrats pile on because they wanna exacerbate that fissure and so. Well, Elon was disgusting about this. Elon was giving this more credence that the president allegedly had a business with Epstein that completely didn't exist. So it's like, even if somebody like Elon is willing to,

you know, throw mud on the president's name and slander him like that. I got an idea. Can we find someone whose last name is Epstein? There was a guy on, A lot of them. His name was Jeffrey R. Epstein, and someone quote tweeted him and said that R is holding up the weight of the world.

That's great. It's like, if my last name was Epstein, because it's a common last name, I would create my top 10 newsworthy individuals of the week list, and that way I could tweet, here's who's on the Epstein list, and then just start putting people's names, you can't sue you for defamation.

There's a famous Hollywood reporter, Kevin McCarthy, and when McCarthy became speaker, that was like the running joke that he'd's a famous Hollywood reporter, Kevin McCarthy. And when McCarthy became speaker, that was the running joke that he'd be like, seriously guys, wrong McCarthy. Like, he's covering Brad Pitt's newest movie, and he would see all this like, F you. And I was like, I'm not that Kevin McCarthy. So I could do that with the Jeffrey Epstein.

Put out a casting call for a Jeffrey Epstein. He can sit right there. Well, hey, we'll make a website, epsteenslist.org. There's a politician in New York. Put out a casting call for a Jeffrey Epstein. He can sit right there. Well, hey, we'll make a website, epsteenslist.org. There's a politician in New York. It'll be like to find local services to help you out. Yeah. Someone just ran in New York with an Epstein name.

I've met other Daniel Turner's. That name's kind of boring as hell. There's a lot of them. So it is a lot. Let's jump to this next story from Newsweek. Los Angeles to give cash assistance to immigrants impacted by Trump rates. I love immigrants impacted. Who is Trump targeting in these rates?

Are they just immigrants or are they perhaps a subcategory of immigrants? Giving cash to illegals that invaded our country. Newsweek says Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass announced a new initiative to provide direct cash assistance to immigrants impacted by the Trump admin's ongoing immigration raids. The funds will be distributed as cash cards valued at a couple hundred dollars each and is expected to become available in the next week. They say President Trump has vowed to carry out the largest mass deportation in U.S. history. The GOP's flagship immigration policy to Trump is causing people to avoid going to work and fears over workplace raids. California has become one of the key battleground states for immigration. So hold on there a minute.

So the cash assistance is intended for families directly impacted by the raids. Mayor Bass highlighted the example of a family that faced potential eviction after one of its primary earners was detained by immigration authorities. Was this individual perhaps legally detained under a warrant of some sort, perhaps for being an illegal immigrant? The program will be funded through private donations rather than city funds. Immigrant rights organizations including the Coalition for Human and Immigrant Rights in Los Angeles will hand in the distribution of cash cards. According to the mayor's office, the city will coordinate efforts between donors and distribution partners, though specific eligibility criteria have not yet been announced.

They're going to say bass liken the initiative to Angelino cards program during the pandemic. The cash cards announced coincided with a new executive orders on my bass directing all city departments to strengthen training and policies, ensuring compliance with LA's sanctuary city law. Okay. Now y'all know,

I pointed out the beginning of the show. We've had many people come on the show and say treason. They say, Comey committed treason because he called Trump a Russian. That's not treason. Sedition is when you try to undermine, overthrow, or obstruct the government. So what we saw with Trump being falsely charged and the Russiagate conspiracies and the false impeachments, that's seditious conspiracy. Individuals of this country seeking to undermine

this country's government. Treason is defined as this, whoever owing allegiance to the United States levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere is guilty of treason, I'm gonna pull this up, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death

or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title, but not less than $10,000 and shall be, shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. This is codified in US law. So let me just ask the basic question. We'll start here. Trump invokes 18th century law declaring invasion by gangs to speed mass deportations.

Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a sweeping wartime authority that allows the president broader leeway on policy and executive action to speed up mass deportations of people, potentially pushing his promised crackdown. This is from March 15th. Trump has federalized the National Guard in California because of riots and he sent in the Marines to protect federal

buildings as they were conducting immigration raids in LA. Recently, the Trump administration raided several marijuana farms. Let me pull this one up. This is very important. Miners pot farms. I bet pot farm probably won't do it, but here we go from the BBC. Hey, the BBC is a source, right? Okay. Liberals are going to say it doesn't count. Minors among suspected illegal immigrants detained after clash at California Farm.

What kind of farm was it? It was a marijuana farm. You see, they keep omitting that. Now, can I hold on? Let me just ask the panel a basic question. Do you think these minors, illegal immigrants, came to this country of their own volition? No way. No.

Do you think they are working on a pot farm by choice? No. No. What do we call it when people are brought somewhere and then forced to work against their will? Slaves. And we call it trafficking. Mm-hmm.

So what Trump and the CBP has likely uncovered, and I ask because I think it's unanimous, when children are brought here to work on farms against their will, we call that child trafficking and slavery. Karen Bass is providing funding to the individuals impacted by this. With that being said, is it fair to say that she has adhering to our enemies

and giving them aid and comfort within the United States? Yes. I think it's clearly. You made a great deductive argument right there. If this so I'm not going to look when people hear the word treason, they imagine a you know, we've had these stories recently where like someone in the Air Force went to Russia and gave them classified documents or something. There was actually someone worked for the director, the DIA. Was it? What is

that department called? Defense Intelligence Agency. There you go, there you go. And he was coordinating with what he thought was a foreign ally of the United States, and he was providing them with classified information in exchange for potential citizenship, but they were not an enemy of the United States. So they, I don't think they've been charged him with espionage. In this instance, we have a very interesting circumstance.

I'm not going to pretend like this is somebody selling nuclear secrets to Russia, which is like the epitome of treason, or during a war going and joining, like let's say right now they went and started aiding and abetting ISIS or like ISIS care, whatever it's called, and Hamas and Iran. That would be like, oh wow, they're waging war against us, they're having war against us. I would say Karen Bass has put her foot just slightly over the line of where it would be legally defined as treason because Donald Trump has already said these narco gangs and cartels are invading our country, many at the behest of foreign adversaries, and we have to deport them.

We know, or I should say it is reasonable to conclude at least Trende Aragua, that makes a lot of sense, that Venezuela released prisoners from their prisons and sent them out saying, go disrupt other places, go to the United States, why don't you? That's Trump's argument. Right now you have this scenario, regardless of what you think of Trump,

the federal government has asserted that there is an invasion on the southern border. Blanket statement. Maybe not a legal one. I don't know. There is a alien enemy invasion under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act that, yes, Tren de Aragua is an invasive force. Now, we don't know exactly who's running these pot farms, but the BBC is even reporting, children were working on these farms. I think it's fair to say these people who are not Americans

are an enemy of this country, because I don't think anyone in this country is gonna argue that it's lawful to have child slaves. Karen Bass providing, aiding, and abetting these individuals is adhering to our enemies. The 300,000 kids went missing over the border while Biden was in charge, I'm putting in quotes for those listening.

I'm sure some of those kids are wound up on that farm and farms like it. This is like a slow death of the state that she is accelerating with her, like Tim was saying, the foot on the pedal. But I think she helped burn down that state. She was just gone. Totally mismanaged the fires in LA.

So the reason I bring this up is because, and again, I want to stress, I always tell people, it's not treason, you can't say that, don't say it's treason. I imagine the Barbary Wars. Jefferson, I believe it was, was negotiating with North Africa, with, you know, and saying like, stop your people from doing this.

And they basically said, you're infidels, we can do what we want. And he said, okay, we're making the Marines and we're gonna go and we're gonna crush you. The Barbary pirates are pirates. They are not necessarily of a government. That's what a pirate is, it's a privateer. If there were, say during the Barbary wars, if you went and aided a pirate vessel

attacking the US Marines, that was legal treason. Treason doesn't have to be a nation state. It is just the declared enemy of the United States. So this is admittedly, I would call it being on the line because I'm sure some might argue, no, no, no, she's not directly aiding Trendy Aragwa, she's indirectly trading, I'm sorry, aiding, she's indirectly aiding narco gangs and Trendy Aragwa with the actions she's taking. We don't know for sure that she is, but it seems highly likely that she is.

In the event that the Trump administration discovers anybody who received one of these cards is MS-13, Trendy Aragwa or Sinlo or any of these other cartels, that there is objective, done, red line treason. So I try to be careful. The question then becomes, is there political will for Donald Trump or anyone in government to actually go against these sanctuary policies?

I think the answer is no. The question then becomes, to be completely honest, is enforcing sanctuary policy in general just treason? And I think the only way this is going to stop is when you get somewhere that bare minimum argues for sedition. There's no doubt these cards are gonna end up in the hands of the narco traffickers

because the people who are working on these farms are indebted to them for getting them across the border. The 15 year old girls that are working on these farms are there to pay off the debt of someone else who got who owes the traffickers. So if you are the nicest of people and you got the $500 card from Karen Bass's organization, ultimately the narco traffickers going to be like I want the card. We have a hard question that this country is facing right now. BBC report, federal officials said a protester

fired what looked like a pistol at federal agents. Now we were live when that broke, we covered that story. It was the third time in one week, extremist factions were opening fire on federal law enforcement. But if we were to say outright, what are the circumstances right now the US is facing? We've got narco gangs, there's many of them.

In the United States, most people are familiar with Trendy Aragwa and MS-13 for instance. They trade drugs, they traffic people, they smuggle. You've got the cartels. The cartels are much, much more serious, right? The narco gangs might be involved in one or two political killings, but they're largely just gang killings, trafficking.

The cartels actively are killing wave after wave of politicians in Mexico, and they do operate on our southern border, smuggling drugs. We have a crisis in this country with these elements. We are trying to stop them. The American people voted for Donald Trump to stop them. Sanctuary cities, Democrat politicians

are seeking to abet all these illegal immigrants. At what point now with three ambushes, oh, I shouldn't say that there was an ambush, but two ambushes on cops, two cops shot. And now this, at what point is Trump going to have to say, there is an enemy in the United States attacking us, seeking to kill our law enforcement in violation of the voter base who voted in a Republican majority in the House, Senate, presidency and because of Trump's first term, the Supreme Court. Clearly immigration is

something people want done. At some point, the question's gonna have to be posed, do we actually treat this as enemies in the United States attacking us? Yes, he needs to be more aggressive. I think we only have 100,000 deportations so far. Barack had two and a half million. But let's compare those, Barack, those are turnarounds. The Obama deportations was largely captured the border

and pushed back. And never before had we seen the kind of raids that Trump is doing where he's going into Los Angeles. I think he did use ICE raids though. Obama did definitely use ICE raids. They weren't like Trump's. Not like this. Well, they need to be more aggressive. And I don't think we should wait for something to pop off, like someone to get hurt again, for him to be like, okay, now's the time. This is the question that I brought up last week. And I'll ask you, Shane.

What do you think would happen if Abraham Lincoln did not react to the secession of seven states? Dana, what do you think? Yeah, well exactly. Along those same lines, the congressman that happened yesterday, Carbohol, I don't know if you saw this, I saw it earlier on the news. Congressman Carbohol was trying to stop an ICE deportation,

and he asked the ICE official for his card, and he gave it to him, and he took his business card and showed it to the media on camera, read out the guy's name, read out his confidence, his information, and people are saying, how do you not arrest Congressman Carbohal? Like you doxed an ICE official and you said, I'm a member of Congress,

I want your card, here's my card, now I'm going to share it with the American people. Well, the challenge there is- This is insanity. Scummy but not illegal. Right, scummy but not illegal. The reason I brought up the Lincoln thing is- This is insanity. Scummy, but not illegal. Right, scummy, but not illegal. The reason I brought up the Lincoln thing is, I think it's fair to say, so the history is,

Abraham Lincoln wins the election, immediately seven states declare secession. Just seven. And Abraham Lincoln's not even president yet. He gets in and says, we will not let the union break apart. And so you get first the battle of Fort Sumter, he ref, the union refuses to pull their troops

out of Fort Sumter in South Carolina. So that was, we call it the start, but the only person that died, I think was an accident. Then you get the first battle of Bull Run where the South mounts, mounts forces in Virginia and the union loses. At any point, Abraham Lincoln could have said, I am not engaging.

And if Abraham Lincoln said, well, I guess they seceded. You know what would happen? No civil war. Because the South wasn't invading the North. The question then is right now, will Donald Trump, the question is, will this escalate? I'm sorry, like they're already shooting at cops. I don't know.

So we're there. It's escalating. Will Trump declare an insurrection and actually start shutting down these sanctuary cities? If he doesn't, I think they win. If he does, I think he wins and he would be Lincoln-esque. I did hear him the other day say, if you get in the way of ICE vehicles making arrests,

I'm instructing ICE agents to move in and arrest protesters that do so. Indeed, but that's just saying like- So like first step in the way of ICE vehicles making arrests, I'm instructing ICE agents to move in and arrest protesters that do so. Indeed, but that's just saying like- So like first step in the right direction. I mean, they haven't been- Sure. You know, if you violate the law, we'll arrest you is a bare minimum. The question is to the degree of charges.

And Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus without the authority of Congress. That's unconstitutional. Retroactively, they claimed he was allowed to do it. Setting a precedent that hypothetically in a wartime, this is the President Lincoln set that everyone cheered for. Trump could suspend habeas corpus and then say, all that needs to happen

is Congress at any point just agree. I can do it when I feel like it, that's what Lincoln did. And that's the point he was making before about illegal immigration. I think, Abraham Lincoln arrested the Maryland legislature, or I'm sorry, a third of them. These are huge unconstitutional moves made by a president who decided he was going to send the troops down

and maintain the integrity of the union, which we'd celebrate him for. So I don't think- I think he was a tyrant. Still Democrats. I don't think- I think he was a tyrant. He doesn't need to go that far.

I don't think he wanted war. I think the president now he needs Pam Bondi to go hard after the 10 protesters who were involved in the attack in one ice facility. I believe the Korean man who shot one ice officer there they have a he's wanted right now and they're on the lookout for him. The president just finished passing the one big beautiful bill that is going to increase funding to ice. But having said all, I've been monitoring my backgrounds in field reporting and I suspect that this will be the next big leftist liberal movement in our country. I've been monitoring all the lefty pages on Instagram, Twitter, and throughout social media. They call for violence against ICE

cops regularly and as I continue to monitor them, they're becoming more and more well organized. What does that mean? That means they are going to organize and call for more protests as ICE workplace enforcements are happening. As workplace raids are happening, they're looking to flood the zone with different protesters and rioters. And I think that's where we're going to see a lot more of moving forward. Yeah. And I think every couple of years the left needs their their organizing principle whether it's Occupy Wall Street, whether it's Black Lives Matter, whether they always have to have something to galvanize them and this could be the new one right headed into the midterms headed into you know

it's summer I'm surprised it's not happening now but the the crazy left the Antifa faction of the left they need a something to rally around. I'm just happy Israel-Palestine season's over. Switched officially. I agree. Illegal immigrants season. And you know you have to thank for that. But the poor climate. Absolutely.

I was going to say, no, the poor agents who are emboldened, that's the number one thing on the Donald Trump agenda has been mass deportations. And they're delivering on what they've been doing. But imagine if you were a true climate believer. Like, what about the climate change people? No, no one cares. They're gone.

No one goes to their. Greta cares about Palestine, not about climate change. Even Greta moved on to kill Israel. I know she left climate. Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial. We've got this one from the post-millennial. Illegal immigrants can be deported to third party countries with as little as six hour notice.

ICE memo says, a new policy memo issued by ICE, Todd, director Todd Lyons has stated, the US immigration officials can now deport illegal immigrants to countries other than their own with minimal advanced notice. I say, let's go. Do they warn the other country? Do they what?

They warn the other country? What I mean, we talked about this last, a couple of weeks ago, like South Sudan's got the lowest GDP in the world with, it's like $390 per year. So these illegal immigrants, they're gonna boost the GDP of South Sudan. They need it. Well, I think the situation here is that

many countries don't have agreements in place for us to deport their illegals back to their country. So for example, like Venezuela won't accept the illegal Venezuelans that we try to send back there. So I think the idea is instead of having to keep them here instead, because we can't send them back to Venezuela, we send them to a third party country to not let them linger here in our country. I agree. The question ultimately now is, you know, in the previous segment, we were talking about Karen Bass giving money to illegal immigrants who are targets of federal law enforcement, which is aiding.

It's one thing to aid and abet a criminal, someone robbed a bank, but these are not citizens. These are people that Trump is saying is invading us. The question is, if this money finds its way to Trendy Aragwa, to MS-13, to Sinhala, to whoever else, this is treason. She's aiding and abetting. The question then becomes, does Trump need to go full Abraham Lincoln or will the Democrat resistance be so weak? Albeit, it is nuts, right?

They've already shot two cops. There's been three shootings against law enforcement, but still they've not organized any meaningful way. So does Trump need to escalate the law enforcement beyond what he's doing now? My argument would be a little bit, not like he needs to declare a war and send in the Marines to take over California,

but federalizing the National Guard. And I do think he needs to start arresting Democrat politicians who are aiding and abetting criminal gangs. We don't need to march to the sea, but he can go in and do some surgical stuff, and just take care of the illegal immigrants. Well, I think Karen Bass should be arrested at the bare minimum.

If they don't want to say it's treason because it's like kind of on the line. If Trendy Aragwa got this cash, then she is doing that. She's facilitating that. But if it's just aiding the illegal immigrants, I'd say sedition. I do believe right now the DOJ shouldn't waste any time. They should absolutely charge. However, I wonder if they're gonna wait till after the midterms. So Trump is done, 2029, January 20th. This is it for him. He's gonna walk out and that's the end of game. That's end game for him.

He's gonna, like his first term, this is what all politicians try to do, maximize the powers they have right now so that he gets the full four years. So Trump says, play it light for now, do some of these raids. Let's try and win the midterms. After the midterms are over, full bore. Because if the Democrats get the house again, it's going to be endless impeachments again, I think is what the president suspects, just like it was last time when he lost the house. So it's, he can take the actions now and then maybe lose the midterms, or he can take little actions now,

try and win the midterms, and then go ham. I think you gotta do it now. I agree. Like you gotta save lives, you gotta help turn this country around, you can't wait. I think the assumption that you can win the midterms by waiting is wrong.

And I think the advantage that the president has is I think even in sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, blue areas, I think your average law enforcement officer is on board. They're tired of having to fight with their own criminal element, let alone an illegal criminal element. So I'm sure there are some lefty cops,

there's leftists everywhere. But I would think that most of your LAPD will be thrilled to know that the president wants to help get rid of their criminal element. And when Karen Bass is like, the LA police are going to blah, blah, blah, like, ah, we're not, we're actually not. So I wanted to prompt you guys on something that I hear a lot of Democrat politicians talking about.

And so at a lot of these workplace raids, at a lot of these outside of immigration courts where ICE agents are detaining illegal aliens, they're all masked up. Some have, you know, different masks that they're wearing. Clearly they're there to protect their identities. Tom Homan cited something like a 700% increase in violence towards these agents as to why they're wearing their masks. I believe that, obviously,

and that there's been a lot of threats towards their families, and there's been literally shootings at these ICE agents, even when they are wearing their masks. This led to people like Rep Velasquez and Representative Dan Goldman introducing, and others introducing different legislation to kind of ban masks on ICE agents.

I totally understand why they find it necessary to wear masks, but how do you guys feel about them wearing masks? Because I think part of the narrative here is struggling because it looks sketchy when people with, sometimes their badges hidden, sometimes their face is completely covered. I've covered-

No masks. Yeah. No masks. Yeah. So what do you make of the administration's defense of ICE agents wearing masks, saying, you know, it's putting them in danger. And that there are different activists who are doxing them

and it is happening, I've seen it. The arguments, I imagine functionally, imagine you're trying to recruit as many ICEs as possible, they've got this big budget increase, and you say, but you can't wear a mask, so they're gonna see your face, they're gonna find out who you are, they're gonna post you on the internet, and they're gonna find your family, they'll like, I quit.

Yeah, who's doing that? So the reason I say no masks though, is because if you can't rally and get the people you need, then you don't deserve to win. It is simple as bringing those people in and giving them a rallying cry and saying, we will not wear masks, we will not hide who we are, we will not hide what we do.

We recognize they will try to kill us, they will threaten us, they will threaten everything we love. But the founding fathers sacrificed blood, treasure, and family to create this nation. And by God, we will do the same to save it. And if you've got people who are like, I'm too scared, then you should not be here. But I guarantee someone with the right charisma

who's leading these guys is gonna say, you don't need the masks. And they're gonna say, you don't need the masks. And they're going to say, why not just have them? Let them come. Show the world who these people are when they make these moves and we will use the might of the US government against the terrorists. And the left is going to do the terrorists.

I don't care. They're shooting cops. We voted for this. Trump won. This is not fascism. This is what the American voter asked Trump to do. Do you remember in like the week leading up to the passage of the big beautiful bill, Democrats were taken to the floor with all the sob stories? I want to tell about Juanita Gomez,

who's nine years old and was born without a head and she's going to lose her insurance. Because there were all the sob stories. I haven't heard one sob story about these 14 year olds who are working on a pot farm. No one has come out and been like, let me tell you the story of, and this is where the Democrats are defending, right? They're defending the child slave labor. They're defending it. Where is anyone coming out saying like, what is the life of a 15 year old girl who works on a pot farm? What is she doing tonight when she's done working? Where is she sleeping? How is she getting raped? Why is the media saying slaves? Why aren't the headlines saying slaves?

No advocates. These little girls have no advocates. The cartels have great advocates, but these little girls have no one fighting for them. I will break it down like this. Many of the migrant workers on these farms are not there by choice. They're adults. It's hard to prove. You could maybe say they've indentured themselves to the cartels by saying, I agree to enter into a contract by which I'll work X amount of time for being smuggled into the United States.

I've gone to foreign, I've gone to, I'll just keep it kind of private because the people who are at this restaurant might know, but it was a non-American style of food and their employees appeared to be indentured servants. And they got very mad when I pointed something like this out. That's illegal. You're allowed to do that.

Like if you live in say like China and you're like, I want passage to the United States, they say, okay, we're gonna have you work a dead off for us. We don't do that in the United States. The issue is that children cannot enter into these contracts. Children cannot agree to be smuggled. That's trafficking.

Children who are on a farm doing labor illegally in this country, kids aren't allowed to work on farms like this to the degree that they're having these people, that would then be upgraded from tension servitude to slavery, because they don't have a choice. And so here we are. The question is, you know what I think it is?

I think it's because the American liberal thinks slavery as a black man in a field being beaten. They don't realize that slavery affected every level of American society from grocery stores to governments to building houses. In the mind of the liberal, when you talk about slavery, they imagine it's a guy in a field. But there were people who worked, a blacksmith,

and he had slaves, and the slave would make horseshoes. Nobody was hitting him, but that was not his choice. He did not want to be there, and they were enslaved. I don't know why. You can make all the assumptions. I'll ask you guys in the comments, why won't the media admit these are child slaves? The left only cares about children

when they're dead from mass shootings so they can use them as political cudgels. To be fair, the past few, they didn't want to talk about it all because of the identity of the shooters. Yeah, that's true. That's a big conflict for them. Depending on the shooter and who the victims are,

they have a tough time deciding on who the victims are. Well, to be fair, Chicago has a mass shooting every weekend they never talk about. That's so weird. At least according to the Googles, is 388,000 slaves were taken to North America from Africa. Joe Biden lost how many kids? 300,000-ish. So Joe Biden was-

Oh, wait, wait, wait. People taken from the US to Africa? Over 12 million were trafficked out of Africa, but 388,000 were brought directly to North America. Oh, okay. Again, according to the Googleses. So Joe Biden trafficked more than 300,000 children in four years, and this was over 200 years.

Joe Biden was the largest slave traffickers and sex trafficker in the history of the world. You know what I'm gonna do? Yeah. I think it is absolutely fair to say that children who are smuggled here did not make the choice and now having to work off a debt are being forced to do so. I would call that trafficking and slavery.

But if we wanna play the game the Democrats play about, oh, but they're asylum seekers. Okay, you're right liberals. These people in their home countries were threatened by gangs and had no choice but to leave. Now, many of them smuggled here are forced to work on farms to pay off those debts. So they were forced to do it, so they're all slaves? If you want to argue these people weren't safe at home and had no choice but to flee,

and now their only option was die or work on a farm, I'd call that slavery. In which case, these people, Trump is liberating slaves. So he is Lincoln-ish. Ha! Hey, we're getting there. To be fair, that was my legal arguments. I think the child slavery thing is 100% correct. And I'm not really surprised no one in media is admitting

that Trump found child slaves. No, no, it's just easier to say, you know, strawberry fields. Right. Well, congressmen said that over the weekend. They're picking up families working on strawberry fields, like when the pool family goes strawberry picking in spring, right? Like, mom and dad and kids and like. And then Trump's masked guys with skulls are just beating children.

It's a level of evil that is hard to comprehend, and yet we have to pretend to have rational conversations. It's demonic. It is. Oh, it's purely demonic. Purely demonic. And Gavin Newsom with his slicked back hair defending this, defending the cartels trafficking girls on pot farms, who by the way donated, one of the biggest pot farms that was raided

was a donor to his campaign. To Newsom? Trump should shut the pot farms down. I'm so sick of the weakness. I was, who was, who did I have on? We were on the culture war and I said, this is where I'll never be in government. And I can't remember, we had Dr. Chloe, Dr. Drew,

and Naomi Best, and someone asked like, why? And I was like, no one would dare let me anywhere near that seat of power. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me when I say, oh, what was that child slave labor on your pot farm? The federal government is federalizing, seizing it and shutting it down. Done.

Not to mention it's illegal federally anyway. Now I'm not an anti-weed guy. I am not somebody who thinks it should be illegal. I'm more of a regulate, more in the libertarian spectrum when it comes to a lot of drugs. I don't want anybody doing them. I just don't know if having a law that's not being enforced does anything. But that being said, at the bare minimum,

it's an illegal drug, okay, it's a federal government says it's illegal, and they found child slaves. How hard would it be to send one guy with a clipboard and be like, shut your farm down? It's okay to be against a business that has child slaves. Yes, I don't care what the business is. We give you permission, Democrats. You are allowed to be opposed a business that has child slaves. Yes, I don't care what the business is. We give you permission, Democrats.

You are allowed to be opposed to child slavery. But this is why they call Trump derangement syndrome, right? Because if Trump did it, it has to be wrong. So you start adopting positions that just absolutely make notes. It's when you have devout, pro-Israel Jews Democrats coming out being like, well, I oppose the Iran strike. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we can talk about that.

But you have 40 years on the record saying you would appreciate this. I'm like, but Trump did it, so therefore it's wrong. Right. Trump's arrangement syndrome is so sick that Democrats in California will defend slave labor on a pot farm. Well, now, you know, when I talk about the escalation

and threats of violence, there's a lot of people who have made posts. One guy got, I think like 10 million views saying, if masked men are kidnapping your family, you have a right to defend yourself. And it's like, in the vaguest of contexts, if you're at home and a guy in a balaclava kicks your door and grabs your daughter,

yes, everyone recognizes that. But when there's duly sworn in law enforcement with an announced raid showing up with police vehicles and you're like, but they're wearing masks. You have no right to shoot those cops when you know they're engaged in lawful law enforcement activity. But now I'm seeing more doofy liberal types

saying the exact same thing. This is the sentiment on the rise on the left, which I believe we will see more and more people ambushing and shooting at ICE. We saw two groups, July 4th and July 7th, and then a few days later, some guy at one of these riots pulled out what appeared to be a pistol

and appeared to be shooting at federal law enforcement. Yeah, it's gonna continue. I feel like we've haven't, there's been a large increase in violence that's kind of been normalized and just been swept under the table, like that We forget about it after one new cycle happens. So obviously there was little BG man. Gioni stuff recently

There was also in Minneapolis a couple of lawmakers that were shot where obviously that was the Vance Butler guy We're obviously coming Of the Trump shooting the Idaho guy First responders and then multiple assaults or shootings against ICE officers. The Israel embassy thing. Outside the, and that just. It's been nonstop. The next day it just seems like, oh yeah,

but I don't know if that's just in my head if we're noticing that more. But it seems as though we spend less time concerned on these acts of violence when they do happen. And I think it is very concerning, because I think we're going to see this trend continue. Well, and then you hear nonsense politicians like Tim Waltz say, Democrats have to get nastier.

It's like, how much nastier do you need to get, right? If they actually take the skin off their face and reveal the lizard. Starting with the Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up the congressional baseball game, there really isn't a prominent act of political violence that has come from the right, January 6th! I know, that's why they always have to go back

to January 6th. But not only will they murder you, but everybody on their partisan side will justify it. I think that's one of the big issues too. I feel like back in the day we used to come to a consensus where vigilante justice was bad, but now like, oh, if it supports my political ends, I do support it.

And I guess the reason why that's so concerning is because many people have many political beliefs that they hold with deep conviction, but if we let people go down about vigilante justice, we'll end up in a really crazy place. The thing I'm implying, by the way, is there are people right now who are pro-life who believe that there is a Holocaust going on

within abortion clinics. What does that make you justify in your beliefs and makes you believe you should be able to do in vigilante justices is endless if you're justifying. Hopefully you don't want to take someone else's life if you're pro-life, but we should put an end to all those human sacrifices. If you're just, yeah. Go ahead.

Let's jump to this next story. We have this from Mario Nafel breaking Rep Ro Khanna. I am demanding the release of the Epstein files. Rep Ro Khanna has introducing amendment to demand the full release of the Epstein files. Now this is a Democrat who's doing this. Let's play the tape. Mr. Speaker, I introduced today an amendment demanding the full release of the Epstein files. The Speaker's Rules Committee should demand a vote tomorrow of every member of Congress. Yes, we should release it or no, we should not. This is a question of whose side are you on? Are you on the side of protecting the rich and the powerful who have put their thumb on the scales of government to suck out millions of dollars while working-class

Americans suffer or are you on the side of the people? The Attorney General said on her desk was the Epstein file and now she's saying no, no, no, nothing to see, don't release it. This is a question of trust. We need to release the Epstein files so we can restore government of the people, by the people and for the people. And every member of Congress tomorrow should be forced to vote on this amendment. So here's the conundrum, I suppose. If this does go to a vote, I doubt it.

Who do you think votes yes? I don't know that it would be Democrats. This is brilliant by Ro Khanna, shout out. We do disagree on quite a bit, but he's the best the Democrats have. I want the files released. I don't care if Trump's in them. If Trump's in them, I want them more.

How about that? But Rep. Ro Khanna saying this, Democrats are not all gonna vote yes on it. Republicans are not gonna vote yes on it. So it's not gonna go to a floor vote at all. So this is an interesting play that can't be played. Yeah. And Rilkana represents Silicon Valley and his office is getting a lot of phone calls right now from some pretty rich dudes who are like, hey, I remember that contribution you asked for me. How about you shut up about the damn Epstein files? There's a lot of people in Silicon Valley

who are probably a little too close to that file who don't want the thing released. So Roe will back down from this. I want the files released, but I also don't know why anyone should trust what we see when they're released. That's the issue with all of the Epstein files, though. It really speaks to how, no matter what is released,

you will never be satisfied unless it really confirms your fires. I want the government to be turned inside out so we can decide. And this is a step in the right direction. Ro Khanna's a cynical political clown. He didn't do this during the Biden administration for a reason, it's because he didn't give a shit.

He's only cynically using this as a ploy to be, oh, the man of the hour. Mr. Gaines, who do I sign this check out to? Just pull that gentleman off the chair and take the chair. It's all yours. Myron made it. Yeah, I did. It was a lightning hold, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was, man. I knew it. I knew I had to work in an airport. You're going to make this dude move a puppet after being stuck on a plane. Welcome to IRL. Here's a puppet. Literally, they said, oh, lightning wall.

I was like, wait, there's no lightning. What's going on here? They have the lights. They flash on top. And that means no ground personnel can go on the ground. Oh, oh, lightning wall. I was like, wait, there's no lightning. What's going on here? They have the lights, they flash on top, and that means no ground personnel can go on the ground. Oh, yeah, dude, we were there for like two hours. Absolutely nuts. Actually, it was the Jews that made me late.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right, I was going to say, who do I write this check out? They do control the weather. The setups that you're doing are crazy right now. It was a lot specifically. But we were just talking about Ro Khanna has called for an amendment to be filed and voted on the floor tomorrow in Congress

releasing all the Epstein files Good. I mean, you know, that was a huge blunder by the Trump administration was saying like oh, yeah Nothing to see here guys, especially when several members of the cabinet were saying like yeah We're gonna release the files whether it was cash Patel Bungie, you know JD Vance They'd all said this stuff on podcasts earlier So it looked really bad for them to just be like, oh, yeah, whatever and then even when Pam Bondi, you know JD Vance they'd all said this stuff on podcasts earlier so it looked really bad for them to just be like oh yeah whatever and then even when Pam Bondi you know oh it's on my desk you know obviously she played it back she was like oh well I was referring to the entire file I was referring to JFK and

everything else which you know you can get that plausible deniability but it looked really bad and then I was listening in on what you guys were saying before with the mayor of of LA and the trend or Aragwis and everything else the other thing also that could happen, I don't know if they would do this, but since they're labeled a terrorist organization now, you could use the full force of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, JTTF,

and go after them for material support of terrorism. And the reason why that would be good is because when you use the JTTF, you get a dedicated USA, you can go ahead and get DOJ main involved. You get enormous amount of resource when it comes to prosecuting these types of cases because I've done those national security cases before. And when you involve the JTTF, it becomes a way bigger deal.

They should. As for the Epstein files, there's something, you know, I have an interesting thought on this. It's like Rokana, I like Rokana. I disagree, but he, we came on the show, we had a discussion and I see where he's coming from. I've made this point with a lot of people on immigration, people will always vote to protect themselves,

their friends and their families. So Ro Khanna being the child of immigrants is like, I wanna protect immigrants. Me as someone born American, and I mean, admittedly my grandmother, or I'm sorry, my grandmother on my mom's side wasn't immigrant too, but my family is largely American, so I'm like, my grandmother on my mom's side wasn't immigrant too, but my family is largely American. So I'm like, I wanna maintain the American tradition.

So I respect it. That being said, if all the Democrats came out tomorrow were like, yeah, release it, I'd be like, wait a minute. What are they, like, what's their play here? Now to be fair, okay, right? I'm not gonna tell them no, but I just, what is the Democrat motivation if they actually were to vote on it?

I don't trust them. They've got fake files that have all their enemies on it. Maybe, yep. You just can't trust them. For the Democrats, it's just a distraction. What if, okay, and I know that the liberals are gonna clip this. Okay, let me just start by saying,

I'm gonna intersplice my sentences. The Epstein files should be released, and if Trump is on them, good, release them even more. But what if Democrats had, and I think Trump should be releasing these files, fake files that Trump, he should be releasing all the files, left behind so that if Trump or whoever came in,

and all the files, all the Epstein files need to be released, they would stumble upon and go, wait a minute, this is all fake. And then it's like, release it, And then the Democrats say, release it. And you're like, that's a clever play. Well, well, let's be honest here, right? So like, as far as like the client list goes, we already know who a lot of his clients were, right? You know, I've done a show, Ryan Dawson, we talked about this. You know, the thing is that like, you know, the cool, sexy celebs,

we already know who they are. There's a lot of billionaires that no one knows about. The real thing that's interesting is people want to know who do you work for, which component of Israeli intelligence do you work for. You know I think the former prime minister Naftali came out and said oh he didn't work for the Mossad or the Israeli government. But you know other people were like Wendy Webb say that he worked for Oman right the IDF's component. So we'll see but I think the thing that's worked for Oman, right? The IDF's component. So we'll see, but I think the thing that's most important, Oman, they're basically, it's like their DIA. Oman. Oh, that's the actual organization.

Yeah, yeah, it's called Oman. Yeah, yeah, I know, it starts with A. A lot of people get, what are you talking about? Yeah, it starts with A. Yeah, it's like a component of their IDF. We know FC was friends with Ehud Barak, who was the former prime minister. Yes, he got called there a million times.

And Bongino himself said on this show, Middle Eastern intelligence, perhaps. Everybody laughed with him. Yeah, we all know which Middle Eastern country that is. OK? But I think the real thing that people are interested in isn't necessarily like, people say, the client list. We already know who's going to be on the list.

I think the thing people are most interested in is who he was working for, what information he was collecting, why he was collecting, and how he was going about actually doing all this. And I do think it's important for people to realize that when it comes to Epstein, I've talked about this a bunch, I really want to kind of aware the audience on this. So I used to, for those that don't know, because I'm like new here I guess with some of the people, I was a former special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, HSI. So I had a top secret clearance

and I dealt with high side stuff and law enforcement stuff. And the thing with Epstein is obviously there's a criminal case on the human trafficking side, right, with what he did. And then there's also the high side stuff about, you know, what he was doing when it comes to intelligence. Now the FBI is obviously going to have a file on him for the criminal side,

but they're also going to have what we call the high side, which is going to have a file on all the classified stuff. It's important to note that the FBI is only going to have stuff pursuant really more to domestic intelligence gathering that he was doing here. But when it comes to foreign intelligence, that's going to be the CIA, right? So I do think that, you know, we've been beating up Bon Gino and Pam Bonny and stuff for their blunders. I get it, Cash Patel, valid criticism.

But I do think we need to expand it. If we want everything, we need to bring Tulsi Gabbard in because she's really going to have everything as a D&I because all the intelligence components that I see community are going to have slivers of all this stuff that Epstein was doing based on the fact that he was also working with a foreign government. So the CIA is absolutely going to have a file. NSA is going to have a file. DIA is going to have a file. All these guys. So I do think that we don't just need the FBI stuff, we need the CIA stuff and NSA stuff, everything because since we know this guy worked for foreign intelligence, FBI is not gonna have everything.

What do you think the reason is for Trump saying nothing to see here, everyone move along? You know, controversial take, I think a big part of it is to protect Israel. I think that Israel is in a very- Is that the controversial part? I feel like that's a less controversial thing. Well, let me tell you why. I think the reason why is because right now Israel is in a very... Is that the controversial part? I feel like that's a less controversial thing. Well, let me tell you why. I think the reason why is because right now Israel is in a very bad political space when it comes to approval both internationally and the United States. You know, people are being very critical of the country right now. They're in a very sensitive time where I would say the next two years is gonna dictate the

landscape of the Middle East for a very long time. And you know, they want to attack Iran again. You know, the ceasefire is BS. They're gonna absolutely, you know, do another phase of the conflict because for a very long time and you know they want to attack Iran again you know the ceasefire is BS they're gonna absolutely you know do another phase of the conflict because for all intents and purposes I think the United States and Israel lost this conflict and I can that's going can I ask you what is the evidence I think they lost what evidence do you have that massage that Jeffrey Epstein worked for massage well I mean between the prime for prime minister going to his house as much as he did he held on He gave a hood Barack the former prime minister of Israel 200 million dollars for research when you've been I'll clean it up worked closely. Hold up with a lot or they'll did a lot

Yeah, you can't talk about you can't talk about Epstein without talking about Robert Maxwell who was working with the massage Yeah as a part of a huge scandal the promise scandal in the 90s didn't didn't like like Maxwell I say something about Robert Maxwell like right glane Maxwell's dad was embedded with the Messiah But also the Soviets also you said your program This isn't you know again you guys are like reaching for strength so Tucker Carlson's father worked for the CIA Yeah, and that's also suspicious and it's okay then what's your arguments? I argue it a second thing was true No, my argument is that just because you're the son of somebody or that you've been seen with-

Yeah, but CIA is American. You were, CIA is America. You're a girl. So Donald Trump was seen with, again, Jeffrey Epstein, so was Bill Clinton. Donald Trump used to hang out on Robert Maxwell's boat. Like there's a deep connection.

So you could make the same argument that you're making for Jeffrey Epstein working for Mossad that he worked for CIA, because he was seen with- Do you think Saudi Arabia makes more sense as the Middle Eastern intelligence agency that he was working with? So I'm gonna pull Do you think Saudi Arabia makes more sense as the Middle Eastern intelligence agency that he was working with? So I'm gonna pull a Charlie Kirk, and I actually believe that the president

is handling this properly. And if there was any- I'm leaving. No! I think the real issue here, I think a real lesson people could learn is that Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, over-promised and under-delivered.

That's the real issue here. Another, handing it to one another like a hot potato. Pam Bondi brought in all the influencers to make them all look really stupid. And then she said, and then she said, no, no, no, I agree that was a no. Wait, wait, let me finish.

And then she said, oh gee whiz, I didn't get enough info. Wait, let me go ask Cash Patel from the FBI for more stuff because she was trying to dump it onto him. Let me ask for Shane. No, I agree that was a no. Let me ask. I agree that. Do you think they kept the files

and still had them sitting around knowing Trump was coming in? No. Well, again, I think if we're only gonna look at the DOJ and FBI, we're only getting a slice of the pie. I think that this is way bigger and we need to bring the entire intelligence community in based on the nature of the type of intel he was working.

I don't think Larry Gaines or she will ever be satisfied with whatever comes out of these documents. My point, what I'm saying is- We're not gonna get them is my point. I don't see, Gaines or she will ever be satisfied with whatever comes out of these documents. Whatever, my point, what I'm saying is- We're not gonna get them is my point. I don't see, I agree with the law that they over-promise and under-delivered. Sure. Cash was, he went on Glenn Beck's show

and they said, who's got the, I've seen his black book and he says the FBI does, absolutely. The FBI director. The FBI director. And he says it's directly under the control of the FBI director. But the idea that anyone who could be implicated knew Trump was going to be coming in

and had months of advance notice and just set back and did nothing, they had to have been saying, all right, clear it out, get the files, anything incriminating, and then you have an entire administration making promises that they get in there and they go, we got nothing.

So this answers your question, why did Ro Khanna introduce everything? This answers your question. Why did Ro Khanna introduce this? And this is why. Because no one's going to vote on it. No, no, no, no. Political conjugal. This is why, because now we're not talking about illegal immigration.

We're not talking about defunding Planned Parenthood. We're not talking about... That's bad for Democrats. We're not talking about... No, but it's bad for America. It's bad for our movement. No, no, no, no. We're not talking about all the other things, because all we're talking about is Jeffrey

Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein. I disagree. So this is why Ro Khanna dropped us. No way, no things because all we're talking about is Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. So this is why Ro Khanna dropped us. No way. No way. Let's keep talking about Jeffrey Epstein. The Epstein. All these other battles that we can fight. Okay, I get it. We're not going to fight them because we're going to focus on Jeffrey Epstein all the time. Jeffrey Epstein. This is the best thing that ever happened to Trump. Jeffrey Epstein. This is the best thing. It has turned the noise off of all of the other stories onto a story that can't go anywhere. If there's no files and there's no and it's all like do we really believe they're sitting on a shelf of documents being like we could release it anytime. Come on anybody implicated knew Trump was

going in that if he could if he could release it they would have gotten rid of most of the incriminating stuff at the bare minimum. In Trump's first term everybody in all these liberals in media made the argument that anytime Donald Trump had bad press on one of his policy decisions, he would tweet something unrelated to policy, some cultural issue. So I'm not saying this is why it's happening, but it may be that Trump, one rumor I heard is that he's using the blackmail to force through his agenda. I don't know if I believe that. I think the likelihood is over promise under deliver.

And when they get in, it's like, oh, we actually can't deliver on these promises. But more importantly, Trump raiding farms and sending in ice agents to people fighting in the streets. There was like a 20-something year old woman who fought an ice agent in Boston or something like that. And now the only thing anyone's talking about is this nebulous story subject to debate

called the conspiracy theory. The last thing Trump wants is a heavy focus of national unrest on his immigration rates. So that's why he's doing it. I do think the story is important and we should not be talking about it because I think if our foundation in this country is comprised of sexual blackmail,

which it has been since the dawn of time, not this country, but hold on, but like since Hoover took over FBI, we know the mafia was sexually blackmailing him for being with this gay lover in New York City Hotel. This is what the country's been doing. So if our foundation's comprised of that, that foundation's gotta be destroyed.

I don't care what the repercussions are. I don't care who the people in the periphery of the story are. Wait, wait, what if the repercussions are, and I'm not saying, I know people are gonna mad, I'm not saying it is, I'm saying, how would you feel if Ro Khanna's amendment goes through, all Democrats vote on it, and a couple of Republican defectors vote on it,

and they get the documents, they're released, and let's just say, it's not incriminating for Trump, but it does destroy the strength of the federal government tremendously and then Democrats mount a resurgence And we get a communist takeover in two years. Let God sort it out It means communist takeover, you don't know that mean you're never gonna know Stabilize my point is I don't think it's likely I'm not saying it will have right But I'm saying, would you regret the decision should communist takeover?

I lived in New York most of my life. So I'm pretty used to communist takeover. I guess like, yes, yes. Yeah, I mean, like, because I'll fight it. I don't know if I would regret it. Because if we don't, if we do not just, we're already in communist, we're talking about Karen Bass, look at Karen Bass is funding an invasion in the President you're not we are not I had I had a genocidal maniac in New York Como and and we have this genocide this

Sexual blackmail operation running the country. I'd like to see that come undone So we already have a great mom Donnie Reuters name is in New York like I don't care what the repercussions are gonna be This is this is why they got to release it because the people already have very low Confidence in the US government, so they need to drop them at this point now. Here's the thing I Think they need to drop them I don't think they are because there's gonna be national defense information in there It's gonna not just compromise our national security, but also Israel's they're in a tumultuous time right now when it comes to Getting a hegemony in the Middle East. It's just not going to happen.

Let me add, I agree with you on the Israel thing. Give them 60 years to give us JFK. Everybody's dead. Apparently they didn't even give us JFK. All right. I think it will cause problems for Israel. It's still not out there. I think it will cause problems for the CIA, the FBI, the entirety of the US intelligence

apparatus. And I think there's going to be several other countries involved in this as well that goes beyond just CIA, probably MI6. Sure. So I think a strong possibility too is, Trump's hands are effectively tied. Now we can make the argument, do it anyway, but it may be that cash, Dan, Pam, Trump and Blanche,

they get in there and they've got the UK, all the Commonwealth nations, not just Israel, but you've even got Saudi Arabia, and they're like, you do this and you're cooked. And Trump's like, what do we do guys? Well, not just that, like, keep in mind, like Patel and Bongino, everyone's so focused on FBI, the people that are gonna have the real sauce

is gonna be the CIA and what Tulsi Gabbard has. Because since this guy was collecting information for a foreign government, the FBI's information is gonna be limited, right? And let's be, I'll be honest with you guys, for a foreign government, the FBI's information is going to be limited, right? And let's be honest with you guys, because I've worked with the FBI. They're a mediocre intelligence gathering agency, okay? They just are, because unlike, so with the FBI, they have to actually operate within the rules to a degree,

versus these other intel components don't care, right? So like when the CIA is doing a lot of things that they were doing abroad during the, you know, war on terror, the FBI left. They didn't want to be involved in a lot of that stuff because it destroys their ability to do prosecutions. Because when we're doing prosecutions, first collecting information, two completely different things. So if we really want to know what was going on, Tulsi Gaffer is going to have everything. She's the real person that's going to have it.

You think you can trust what's there? Because it's been through so many hands over all these years? You know, honestly, dude, I don't think we're ever going to get the full transparency just because people are alive, the nature of what he was doing, the national defense, I'm sorry, not just that it's NDI, but it's gonna affect us, it's gonna affect Israel. This is a very turbulent time for Israel

where they obviously need as much support. If the info came out at this time, it's like the worst time it could ever come out for Israel. So I think- But do you agree with MI6 as well? Sure, for sure. I wouldn't be, a lot of these agencies work together. So I wouldn't be surprised.

That's the Five Eyes Spy Club? Of course, yeah. Because you say Israel and I'm like, okay, I agree, but let's make sure we mix in the other people. And I agree, they're probably a large component, but the Five Eyes Spy Club is not- But they're in the most sensitive political climate right now is my point.

That's why I said Israel. Israel has the most sensitive, they're in the middle of several wars. Bro, I think, now that I got you two here, I don't see how Israel survives the political climate right now in the United States over the next 10 years. I think their funding is pulled in 10 years, 20 years maybe. I think it becomes a partisan issue,

but I still think the Republican Party will stay pro-Israel, at least for the next 20 years. Did you hear Tucker Carlson at TPUSA? Yeah, but I think when you see actual elected officials, I think there's a disconnect from social media and in real life and how people vote in Congress. I think the bigger issue with the Epstein story here is that if it doesn't confirm your priors,

whatever you thought would be happening with this story, then you're not gonna think enough stuff is released. So for example, if Mossad is not implicated, Myron Gaines will not be satisfied. If Donald Trump is not implicated- Why don't they think that Mossad was the one? If Donald Trump is not implicated, Myron Gaines will not be satisfied. If Donald Trump is not implicated, if Donald Trump is not implicated, then the Democrats won't be satisfied. So I think for so many different people, if X or Y or Z person isn't included, you're not going to think there is enough. No matter what. I'm worried about the kids who were trafficked that people went to prison for. Jeffrey Epstein

was in jail in Florida for underage stuff. You know, Galane is in jail right now for trafficking underage kids. Sure, trafficking allegedly people to Jeffrey Epstein and not others is what is happening according to the report. That's the official story. Can I just, there's a pilot? Right. Like, come on, like there's other people involved in this. It's so sick.

Right. Yeah, there's staff on that island. There's staff at his compound in New Mexico. There's lots of people. There are lots of process crimes. Where did they all go? Is Donald Trump implicated here in hiding the ball? Is that what we're, no?

No, I don't think so. I don't think so, but he does have a long history. I think that's a convenient out here for somebody who has while he's president. There was a single sentence they could have leaked about Trump that leaked it. If they arrested his lawyers, okay, they arrested his lawyers in multiple states.

They were trying as hard as they could. Trump is very good at timing also. And you mentioned earlier, you know, is he doing a lot of stuff in preparation for the midterms for the four years, right? He may have this in his back pocket. Maybe he does want to pull a couple strings. Maybe he does want to make people dance.

There are a couple senators or governors who are panicking right now that he's kind of waiving this because I want X, Y, or Z done and I'll release the list in 2028. This is a big, big theory. Before the big, beautiful bill, everything was Epstein talk. We're working on it. Phase two is coming. Big, beautiful bill passes.

Nothing to see here, boys, which the argument is, Trump goes to the speaker and says, get my agenda passed, I don't care how, or Epstein files come out. And the speaker, the organizations behind all of the elections are going, how much damage do we take from this? And they're like, it's gonna be massive. And they're like, give Trump his agenda.

Then Trump gets it passed and he says, okay, deal. So he's like, the theory is, I don't know if I'm saying it's true that he's using the blackmail. Yeah, I mean, that's a possibility. We know that this big, beautiful bill is probably going to be the biggest piece of legislation that he's able to pass before the midterm. I mean, 170 billion for immigration. Yeah. I mean, there's a reason why he compiled everything in there at once to get it through. Right? So, yeah.

This theory does kind of make you think maybe. It defends, defunded Planned Parenthood. Yes. There's a lot of stuff in this one big bill. There's a lot of stuff he got done. I could see the theory being possible if his body language wasn't so bad, he didn't get under his skin when reporters asked him about it.

I don't know, or he's a good actor. He's not a good actor. He's got thin skin. He does, but maybe the reason he got thin skin about it is because in his mind he's thinking, we're gonna drop the Epstein thing because they gave me what I want and I'm gonna uphold my end of the deal.

And so when they ask about it, he's like, I want this to go away because I got my agenda through. And I think he's also, I also don't think he anticipated that it would create this much backlash from the base as well. I don't think he anticipated because Trump is like one of these guys that likes to be liked. So I think the fact that so many people pushed out, this is a big reason why I think he just stamped his feet when it came to bombing Iran too. Like when he said, yeah, we're gonna bomb Iran or we're gonna tie, you can't have nuclear weapons.

We're like, what the fuck, no new wars. So I think that also made him kind of- Wait, but he's been saying that. To a degree. I'm sorry. That wasn't ever new that he said Iran can't get nuclear weapons. He's been saying that for close to a decade now. I understand that, but he did campaign on no new wars. So also that Iran can not get nuclear weapons. Yeah, but bombing Iran was definitely taking a risk of starting a war. That's a major escalation. And it was, we were very lucky to have gotten out of that without, without. And here's the thing I look controversial take, I think it was an L and there's a major escalation. And it was, we were very lucky to have gotten out of that without, without, without.

And here's the thing, I, look, controversial take, I think it was an L and there's a multitude of reasons why I think it was an L. Why? Sure. So the reason why it was an L is because, let's be honest here, the real goal from Israel was regime change. Okay? They didn't accomplish that.

They used the, the lie of they have nuclear weapons to justify regime change. Because if they only cared about the nuclear weapons, why did they have the Mossad in the back lines for literally months building drones, doing it nice and slowly? Then when they launched Operation Rising Lines, what did they do? A bunch of targeted strikes, not just to kill nuclear scientists, but they also killed a bunch of generals. And they were trying to kill Ayatollah as well, they just couldn't find them. Then when they did their strikes and everything else like that, and then the US came in and finished the job and then we did this ceasefire, it was an L and that's why they're trying to fight again. They're trying to restart the war up again

because they want a regime change and they understand that as long as the regime is there, it's an L. It's a crazy interpretation of an L. Well let me tell you why it's also an L. I would say it's an L for Israel but I don't think it's an L for Trump. I think Trump got out of it. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, he did, he did. But obviously a lot of his base didn't like that, right? That he bombed them. There was no need. We spent billions of dollars to do it, right? We spent all this time and resources into doing it.

Also, we spent a significant amount of money defending Israel. We even propagandized. Israel's spending like 100 to 200 million a day just defending against the missiles from Iran. We even propagandized the country with a billion dollar film. You guys know this, right? Top Gun Maverick? Oh.

You think I'm kidding? Oh yeah, I saw that movie. The movie's about, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The movie was literally about bombing the deep underground military bases in Iran. Yeah. Now here's the thing. Many people may be saying like, how are you kidding? You think they knew? Yes, the bunker busters they use have been in development

specifically for the- So 2009, yeah. Specifically for these facilities. So I'm not saying that the US government went to Hollywood and said, make this movie. I'm saying someone doing research on the film said, we're gonna make a movie like this. So let me tell you why this was an L for all of us.

Number one, IAEA, eyes out. The last guy just got kicked out like two days ago, right? Two, the regime is stronger now because the people have galvanized behind the government. The people that were critical of the theocracy before, now they're like, you know what? Israel attacked us, we're united. The Reformist Party, the Conservative Party,

they used to be at ends. One party wanted to go ahead and diplomacy with the United States, the other said, no, we can't trust the West. Now they finally said, you know what, fuck Israel. We're going to go ahead and strike back. But Myron, I was told by many pro Israel individuals that the people of Iran support Israel and hate their government and that's a lie that's that's a lie yeah they're dancing in the

tunnels dude dude like literally all the people that were like critical of the theocracy and critical of the ayatollah and like yo what the hell's going on here our government sucks when Israel attacked them they united the country so that was another big L and then when they had these funerals for the generals that died, which one of them they thought they killed, but they really didn't, thousands of people were showing up. So now people are saying, fuck America, fuck Israel. We survived. We won. They look at it as a W because they both, they got attacked by both the United States and Israel. They exposed all their cards, exposing the Mossad agents,

and they still didn't decapitate the regime and they're still in power. So now our eyes with the IAEA is out, the country is galvanized behind the government, Ayatollah is more power than ever before. And on top of that, we've just given them an excuse to work harder towards a nuclear bomb. Now they're 1000% going to get a nuclear bomb because we pulled out of the nuclear deal that we had, which was a fantastic deal, probably the only good thing that Obama did when he was in office.

And we don't have transparency with what they're doing. So now they're going to get a nuclear bomb and we're going to end up in a situation like North Korea where they're going to get the nuclear bomb to ensure that we don't fuck with them anymore. Can I respond with some counter spin? It's actually very interesting because I did think Israel took the biggest L on October 7th. And since then, I think they've been taking very big W's.

And the reason why I say that is because if anything Israel was able to defank Iran And their proxy since October 7th, so for example Gaza major attack was great They're almost complete Hamas was almost completely decimated Israel was evil able even able to assassinate Ishmael Hania the leader of the political leader of Hamas in Iran Proving to Iran that you know, no leader there is safe Then obviously you mentioned the beeper attack. Hezbollah didn't bother coming to the defense of Iran. Not to mention that Israel, we don't like to talk about it, was involved with the overthrowing

of Assad, which was Iran's major ally in the region. And then when it did come to the 12-day war, Israel had complete air superiority and our military weapons were proven to be much more capable than the Iranians. So as of now I think Israel has decimated all of the Iranian proxies in the region actually doing what I think is America's dirty work. So as far as like military position or I mean it's hard to get an exact gauge of what's going on in Iran but as far as the military assets and you know their proxies go I think it's really hard to argue that you're not doing anything but spin,

saying Israel's the one who took an L. I mean, if anything, Israel even got the United States to join their attack on Iran, which again, I think would be a huge W. Netanyahu has been talking about the Americans joining in on an attack against this nuclear facility for so long, so I can't see this as anything but a win for- Let me just say this.

If it was- I gotta respond to that, man. If it was the previous administration, if it was the Democrat administration, we'd have boots on the ground in Iran. I don't think Kamala Harris would have even struck Iran if she was elected president, actually. Come on, are you serious? Yeah, I'm dead serious.

You said it yourself. You saw the direction that the Democrats are going on with Israel. You think she would back Israel in striking Iran? Yes, 100%. I think that would lead to a coup in the party as a result of her actions. Yeah, no. I've argued before that the Democrats, it's not about what they're doing on the surface, trying to court their Democrat base.

The machine is supporting the machine. The best opportunity the Israel critical group has is Donald Trump, who is concerned about pissing off his base. Democrats are like, you're all chickens as far as I care. We do what we want. Yeah, I don't. I think most Zionists also believe

that the Democrats don't have Israel's back and that this was a once in a lifetime presidential action by Donald Trump and Iran's more vulnerable than they've ever been. But Myron, I want to hear. No, yeah, but the reason why it's an L is because you didn't get what you really wanted. Like so the Israeli government lied when they said we just want them to stop with their nuclear weapons. That's not what it was. It was

about regime change. You guys couldn't do it. Well and and not only did you not. I do like you saying you guys. Yeah well because he kept saying Israel, he kept saying we. Well I'm talking about the West, the United States and the allies. Maybe when you say we you're talking about Iran. So we lost for spending a bunch of money in this situation to help defend you guys, but the real problem is that we didn't effectuate the, or Israel didn't effectuate- We were attacking you guys in the Middle East, huh, Abdul? Well, I'm sorry? Well, I'm saying, you were saying they were attacking, defending us, they were attacking

you in the Middle East, you know, because I'm Israel and you're Iran here. I'm not Iranian. That's fine. Well, you could pass as one. I mean, Myron Gaines, is that even your real name? I know Jews like to use the- Oh, come on. The ad hominems. Now you're not even talking about that even your real name? I know Jews like to use stage names. Come on. Now you're not even talking about the subject. No, but you know, John Stewart turned into John Leibowitz. No problem.

Are you really Myron, or why do you use the stage name? Are you gonna argue with Myron? My name is Mordecai, anyway. No, it's not, what is it actually? It's Mordecai. Like, I'm not gonna sit here as you just changed the subject to insult the guy instead of Ashley. He was the one who said you as Israel.

So I was defending. You said we. I was talking about us striking Iran as the United States. We hit their nuclear facilities. And that's a fine clarification. You don't have to insult him after he says that. I've heard you say we multiple times after Israel, but that's fine. The point I'm trying to make is that the regime change was the goal. Now the Israeli government is going to lie and say, oh no, we just want to go after nuclear weapons. It wasn't about the nuclear

weapons. That was just a pretense to try to effectuate the regime change. And they activated multiple Assad assets in there. They did a whole bunch of airstrikes. Then they had the United States come in and do the coup de grace, and they still couldn't effectuate the regime change. And the regime is still in power. They're more resolved now than ever before. They're united before. That fractured government that people used to, you know, rely on saying like, yes, we could go ahead and get an uprising. It didn't work, right? They were hoping that the blokes would go ahead

and uprise with the government, it didn't work. Now they're behind the government even more so. And now they got the IAEA out, who was giving information to the Israeli intelligence apparatus, they're gone. So now they're 100% gonna get a nuclear weapon. Here's the other thing too also. So if them staying in power is the win,

is that it, just staying in power? Yes. Okay, that sounds like a consolation prize. Absolutely, and the reason why that's a win is because Israel's goal was to get them out of power. Okay, and what's Iran's goal? Wait, what's Iran's goal in the area? They just use a nuclear weapon.

Okay, sorry, I got it, guys. They just use a nuclear capability as a pretense to try to effectuate the regime change. So let me ask this question. The regime change is the goal. The IAEA is out. So, I mean, that is a loss. Huge, especially for Israel.

We were tracking what they were working on. It's how we were collecting intelligence, and now we're not gonna be able to. I mean, that's not loss. Huge, especially for Israel. We were tracking what they were working on. It's how we were collecting intelligence and now we're not gonna be able to. I mean, that's not a good thing for us, right? And here's the other thing too I wanna say. I think the IAEA was a feckless organization and not effective in doing what they were set up to do anyway.

I think they had hidden nuclear facilities that we actually bombed that the IAEA had no access to. So if anything to me, the IAEA is a rubber stamp for Iran. And here's the other thing too when it comes to hidden nuclear facilities. We know about the three main ones. I guarantee you guys that there's probably other clandestine nuclear operations in Iran that we don't know about and we know that roughly 400 kilograms of highly enriched uranium was probably moved out of um Fordow prior to the bombing. So however we want to slice it right let's just let's

go with the White House commentary. One to two years, right, that we've pushed back the nuclear program. Well, now they have the capability. They've already mastered the cycle. They can go ahead and enrich uranium at a high level. Not all their scientists are gone. They're going to go ahead and get a nuclear bomb.

And now they have even more resolve to do so. So I look at it like the reason why this was an L is because the Israeli government will lie and say, oh, we want to go ahead and just get rid of their nuclear program. No, it's about regime change. And they could not effectuate the regime change. I think that's an extremely low bar. Generally considered a win.

Stay in power. What's the low bar? There's a win staying in power is a low bar. Oh, last thing I want to say. I didn't get to say this. It's the third time we've already mentioned regime change. So like, let's move on. Yeah.

Yeah. And then the last thing I'll say is that the other thing also with the ceasefire is Israel held a lot of this information back, but they were actually getting hit pretty hard by the Iranian missiles despite the fact that they had US British Jordanian help etc. The Iranian ballistic missile program was extremely competent. I think even Ben Gavir had admitted yeah we got hit pretty hard a couple of their strategic sites got hit a Mossad base got hit Oman base got hit. Now there was a law in the books though where Israeli media would get in trouble for reporting this or showing the damage.

But now you look, Israeli media is even admitting that they got hit pretty hard with the Israeli missiles. Hell, even Trump himself said on the last day of the bombing that Iran hit them hard. So the reality is that Israel is a glass cannon that can't even properly defend itself. Yes, it can attack, but it can't defend itself without US aid. So this is why I look at it overall. This was an L for all of us. So I should have gotten involved.

We're gonna go to chats in a second, but I do wanna just highlight this because we're getting crazy reports. They've been coming in earlier in the night about major flooding in New Jersey. So again, with all the flooding we've been seeing. Yeah, right. Like Texas has been getting hit again.

I think even recently, like they're saying more is coming. And- That's probably why they delayed me. Georgia. Oh, this is the storm dude. Yeah, this is, yeah, like that's why, yeah. Bro, I pulled up the weather radar, Florida and the DC area. It's like the worst possible time for you to fly out.

They warned me yesterday when I was gonna check in. So yeah, I'm surprised. We've had, I think we're saying like, we've got close to double the rain we normally get. It was storming again today. It's nuts. The groundwater level is insanely high. And we got this little creek nearby that only in the springtime does water actually flow. It's like a river right now. It's crazy. We drive past and it's flowing bigger and it's leaking onto the street because basically the street is a bridge over the creek and the creek

just flows down in the summer and fall and winter. There's nothing in the creek and the creek just flows down in in the summer and fall and winter there's nothing in the spring when the snow melts it you get a little creek we go there and it's going so much it's going over the road is how crazy it's been so but we're gonna go to your chats my friends so smash the like button share the show with everyone you know literally everyone we're gonna have that uncensored call-in show coming up at rumble.com slash timcast IRL that'll be at 10 but for now we will read your chats and rumble rants so get them in while you can. Let's go. All right, Shane H. Wilder says, since the auto pen for Biden's pardons was approved by an assistant, so wouldn't that mean the assistant committed felony forgery and the pardons are null and void?

I mean if I was in office I'd be like, charge them. But, you know, all these people are trying to play politics and they're trying to cut deals and they're going, you know, they're going to say to me, they're going to say, Tim, you're so naive. You don't waste leverage. They're going to say, if a dude committed a crime, you bring the DOJ in and say, here's the list of crimes you're going to be charged with, unless, and that's probably the game of politics. So that's why nobody gets charged and we're like, why won't anyone get in trouble? Next thing you know, some crackpot Democrat comes out and says, you know, I actually don't

think Trump's all that bad. You know, I was concerned about the Epstein thing. And then when they, when I said he wasn't going to really say it, I was like, oh, thank God. All right, what do we got? Evan for us is impeach and investigate Joe Biden, investigate his staff. Indeed. The Quiet Part pod says fact check Tim, there are 86,400 seconds in a day.

Isn't that what I said, like 86? I thought I was close to that number. It sounded right to me. Yeah, I was close. I mean, I wasn't 100% accurate, but I wasn't. Yeah. Okay, thank you. What's the science but I wasn't. Yeah, okay, thank you. Trust the science. I like precision, precision is important.

Blasalot says, perhaps Trump's response to the Epstein files was to get Democrats to care to release the Epstein files. One of those Trump cures cancer, we like cancer now things. It would be really funny if Trump was like, the only way they'll get on board with voting to release the documents is if we claim we're not gonna.

And now they're like, you better, he's like, oh, here we go. All right, you all asked for it. Here's the real, here's the documents. Elaine saying that she would testify. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. And they're saying no, they won't let her. Yeah.

They're definitely not. All right. It's funny she's still alive, huh? Let's see what we got. Yeah, I don't, hey, I don't know. I don't want anyone to die. Yeah, I think her dying would have been like, okay, come on now.

Like it's like. Her dad died mysteriously. Yeah. Ethos says, Tim, the Barbary pirates were direct employees for the Ottoman Empire. Look up the story of Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon. Of course, we know this. This is why we talk about privateers

and letters of Mark and corsairs all the time. That is, various empires and kings and queens and governments, they commission privateers. These are people that on the surface claim to not be directly involved in taking orders, but they are given clearance and signed off on by their government. So that was the point I was making about,

Trende Aragua is a gang, not Venezuela, but Trump's argument is they're signed off on. Effectively, these people are, they're serving as privateers for foreign governments. That would be treason to aid and abet those individuals that are coming here to cause us harm Tim I'm heading out all right man see y'all gotta go do my show now 10 o'clock tonight inverted world live we're gonna talk about UFOs and f-16s crashing into them I heard you had raid reviews for last Tuesday's episode last Tuesday I had a sergeant from the Fourth Reich who's

been below Antarctica where there's an eight million population. The Fourth? The Fourth. They're cool Jews, so you should get in touch. Oh, it's unfamiliar, there was another. Yeah, no, no, he's very nice. That was Sergeant Payton.

What if there are eight million people underground? Well, there was Base 211 that the Nazis went and hooked up in 1939, and there was the Operation High Jump where there might have been a battle. Wasn't there like some kid who took a plane and flew? Recently, yeah. They arrested him. Right, yep. Can't go there unless you have special permission because they're hiding the ice wall and the Nazis.

I'll see you guys later. Or it's the treaties, but you know. All right, man. Later. Thank you. See ya. See you guys. Cheers. Let's grab some more and see what we got going on. TPH says, Tim, most podcasts open with music

before the show starts. Why not play some Phil songs? Yeah, but everybody does like a, you know, it's like a light eight bit song of some sort. Chill hop. Yeah, what is it? What do you call it? Like trip hop.

Trip hop. Chill hop. Yeah. Beats to study and grab. Yeah, beats to study too. Lo-fi type. Beats to study too. T-Boy says, Tim, all these politicians swear an oath to uphold

the constitution and laws. They are breaking their oath and committing treason. I don't think these people take that off very seriously. Yeah, they just, they just, they're just saying things. All right. What do we got? Rob Sears, Robbie Sir says, I think Epstein could have trafficked adult, high paid hookers and kids.

I have a feeling they weren't all kids, so you could be a customer and not a PDF file. Yeah, no, I think- He did both. Yeah, he- Right. Wexner, his backer, owned Victoria's Secret, so he definitely had, well, that's how we got people

involved in the first place. The way the scheme would work is you'd go there with Glaine Maxwell, she knew all these people from talking about Saving the Ocean, that were powerful work is you'd go there with Glaine Maxwell, she knew all these people from talking about saving the ocean that were powerful, and he'd bring these girls to these parties, these hot girls, and people were like, oh, who's this guy who would bring in all these women? And that's how he kind of got known,

was by bringing all the hot girls to the party. Yep. That were of age. And then you show up at his house, next thing you know there's 15 year olds there. Well, the argument is that there would be like a 17 year old or a 16 year old, and they would lie and tell you, oh, she's 18, you're good.

Then film you and then be like, she's not, we tricked you and now we've got the proof of this story. So the way the scheme worked like in the beginning, cause I like, I went through his old case, his state case from like 050607 and he basically had a bunch of girls from like the local private school working for him, giving massages or whatever.

So after he built the, like he met these people in New York or at these parties, they'd go to his house in West Palm and he already had like a network of like 10 to 15 underage high school girls that looked of age and they would come in and do the massages or whatever. And he'd be paying them four or $500 a pop. And then he'd be like, you have any friends

that can do this? And they're like, okay, cause you know, back then in 07, 08, 500 bucks, 600 bucks high school kid, quite a bit of money. And then that's how he would also get like the young girls recruited. Geez, man. Yeah.

All right, what do we got here? A free thinking dog says, "'Such a load of horse-ish. "'Obama made the Iran nuclear deal "'and they started violating it from day one. "'They refused inspections "'and restricted any inspection that did happen. "'They are building a nuke.'"

I think they're building a nuke. I think they're building a nuke. I think the argument is sound that when NATO basically went in and killed Gaddafi, the message sent to the world is, if you can't defend yourself, we're coming for you. Yeah, and literally like all we've done is like increased the resolve to get nuclear weapons. And then Trump pulling out of the nuclear deal

was the dumbest thing we could have ever done. But he did that with enormous pressure from the Zionist lobby and Mike Pompeo. He ran on doing that. Well that was like I said, well again. He ran out of on pulling out of the Iran deal that was like one of the big things that he started attacking before all the pressure of him in office. Yeah yeah but that was his platform. That was a major major mistake and then again, the thing with Trump is... But it's like, nobody's getting tricked here. I think like

you're implying that we're getting tricked and he's doing things that he said he wouldn't do. But like, if you were following Trump for a long time, I don't know if you have been, he's been crystal clear on a lot of these issues. So again, when he started running, he was complaining about how bad of a deal Obama got us into. Yeah. Well, again, like I said, it was, it was a good deal. We wouldn't have had the problems that we're having, but again, from enormous pressure from the Zionist lobby, that is why he said, you know what, yeah, I'm going to pull out the nuclear deal. And then when he came in and then Mike Pompeo, who's a very trusted advisor to him, also owned by the Zionist

lobby, went ahead and put them on the, I put the IRGC on the terrorist watch list in 2019, pulled out of the nuclear deal, sanctioned them to hell. Like, of course that's gonna make them say, you know what, we can't even protect ourselves or fund ourselves, we're gonna go ahead and get a nuclear weapon. Like really bad foreign policy is what pushed them to do that, whereas we could have had diplomacy.

But it's always, we're doing this because of Israel. Because Israel wants to be the hegemony in the Middle East, and Iran's the only power that stands against that. All right, let's grab some more. We've got Waffle Sensei says, any random intern could use AutoPen with Biden's name and the White House would never say

that it wasn't the president because of optics. Agreed. Also, I'm checking the top fans thing. Let's see what's changed. Is it gonna pop up? It's like freezing on me. YouTube rolled out this new feature where you can, oh, it crashed.

You can look at your top fans. Are you seeing this in the chat? It's like a little crown. I'm gonna keep up. Let's see. Oh yeah, yeah, I noticed that. Wow, look at this. I can't see the full name because like,

how do I even, it won't show, it says Castle with 2,075 experience. It's like a ranking list of the top engaged chats. I mean that's cool. Maybe if you reframe it a little bit, you'll be able to see it, I don't know. Yeah engaged chats. I mean, that's cool. Maybe if you reframe it a little bit, you'll be able to see it, I don't know. Yeah, whatever, I don't care that much. I don't think it does anything, you know what I mean?

I don't think what they did with the autopilot was just for the optics. I think it goes both ways. I think even if Biden found out what was happening, they would have said, Mr. President, do you really want us to go to the press and say you didn't know this was being done? So why don't you just be quiet?

That's exactly what happened. Optics in every direction. Yep. All right, Christian. Christian OK says, Timmy, please tell me you've seen the clip of Trump celebrating with the Chelsea football club instead of leaving the winners podium like he was supposed to.

Legend. I did. It was hilarious. And these liberals are like, oh, Trump's so dumb. And I'm like, no, Trump can do whatever he wants. You said Trump likes to be liked and he loves things like that. Winning ceremonies, UFC fights, giving people a belt, a trophy. He loves those moments.

The Nobel Peace Prize, which is hilarious that Netanyahu named them for, you know, said I nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize. There's no way in hell Trump would have left that podium with that. That's like a, that's like a pitot owning a daycare. Makes zero sense, man. Makes zero sense. Let's go to Missy with a K. Says, Tim, you promote the Discord,

and how neat it is, full of cool people and content creators like Joey Canole from Outworld, Tyler from Tyler Today News. It'd be neat if those people were giving a spotlight on your show. That was always the plan, to have our Discord members periodically joining us. So guys, what you wanna do is go to timcast.com, click Join Us, join the Discord server.

It's a community of tens of thousands of people. They're all hanging out. Maybe you want to lose weight, maybe you want to eat right, maybe you want to write a comic, maybe you want to write a song, play video games. There's video game servers. Everybody's hanging out. Community is the most important thing. I talk about this all the time, especially with the Fourth of July.

I said I went to my hometown and nobody was outside because everyone's online looking at pictures of cats and arguing with strangers. At least if you're going to be online, spend it with a community of friends that you can play games with, talk with, and you know, meet spaces better, but this is a good start.

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And tickets are going quick. We got some big names lining up. August 2nd is Michael Malis and Angry Cops Debating Police. That's gonna be hilarious. I'm super excited for these shows because DC Comedy Loft also has chicken wings among other things on the menu, but I'm just gonna order like 50 wings

and sit there eating them the whole time. I'm not literally, but you know, wings are delicious. All right. Lurch says, net guard set up a drag net block by block. Let's go. All right, we'll grab some more. Maga Millennial says Bass wants to get arrested.

The left loves martyrs. Hmm. Elliott says, I've talked to a lot of my friends, neighbors, and co-workers about the Epstein files. 90% of them had to be reminded who he was. I agree.

The issue is good for Trump that everyone's debating this stuff. I'm not saying he did it on purpose, but if the narrative is Trump raiding immigrants and the left can keep that in the news, they'll rally people to come riot and protest. If Trump can deflect in any meaningful way, then the narrative becomes something nebulous.

Like, where are you gonna go? Are you gonna go like stand in front of the FBI building, the new one and be like, we want Epstein and no one's gonna care. Yeah, and they've been running with like, CNN has been like beating Trump up about these Epstein files the whole time, which is I guess kind of good

because it takes eyes off the immigration stuff, which actually does create a lot of the turmoil for the administration. So I could see it as a potential media strategy as well, but yeah. Yup. All right, what do we got? Thinker for Life says,

so the Dems will push for good actions just releasing the Epstein list. If Trump merely postures he's not in the mood for it, now all we gotta do is have Trump do an about face on something big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Trump comes out and says, "'Okay, fine, you've convinced me, here are the files. But I don't think he needs the support to do it anyway.

He could just put it out. He just do it. I do think there's an interesting argument. I was talking to Kyle Seraphine today and his argument is kind of like, and I don't wanna put words in his mouth, but I'll just give you the general theme, the general theory.

The Epstein was bad. He was doing really bad things. It's not nearly as big as people think it is because it was overhyped by everybody for years. And so they basically get in and look at the files and they're like, yeah, it's bad. And it does implicate like a handful of people, but it's not like this massive end of the world government destroying release. So the general argument is over promise under underperform essentially, not that there's nothing there, but that whatever they have wouldn't satisfy and people would think it was a cover up. I don't think it's going to be like that that huge. I think the thing that people really want is to know who is working for how is collecting information, the mode and methodology is really what people want because we already know who's kind of on the list. But the challenge is, you said you really,

you know what people want. Yeah, but which people want this? Like the people who want the information are politicos, deeply entrenched in the political space. Yes, yes. The average American doesn't care. You know what people don't, but we don't know what the truth is,

is what the issue is. Do you understand? I do think that people have an idea of what, but again, it's the politicals like you said, you know, the average Americans not going to even know the average American doesn't even know what Masada is, dude. Sort of each who Mike Mike Sernovich actually got this whole thing kicked off with his initial lawsuit and he thinks it's not massage because they let you say it. And you know, there were people's names you could not say during the Trump impeachment that if you did on any platform

They would instantly just delete your content And I do think it's important and I said this yesterday on my stream that people understand that like when we say like Like MC was an asset Intel asset that doesn't necessarily mean he was like a guy that clocked in to work every day was getting paid A salary you can be an asset simply by having a handler saying hey Look this guy who I know you have some interest in is gonna be at this place at this time, bam that's enough. You're basically like a source and or someone and the thing is with with sources that I've dealt with this before like when I was on the job, informants a lot of times have multiple agencies they might work for. This kind of adds more credence to what you were

saying where it could be MI5 whatever. I know that they had said that he had a Saudi ribbon passport so I wouldn't be surprised if people like him what they do is to protect themselves is they have information on a whole bunch of different people and they feed it to whoever they need to, to keep themselves protected. So this is why he's collecting dirt on both people on the right and on the left.

All right, Kick The Ball says, indentured servitude is illegal under federal law. It's a form of slavery. The Trafficking Victims Protection Act enacted in 2000. Agreed. That's what I was saying. Any adult who came here with a coyote or a cartel The Advocating Victims Protection Act enacted in 2000. Agreed. That's what I was saying. Any adult who came here with a coyote or a cartel

or whatever, and they said, you've got to work to pay off this debt, they are slaves, they're enslaved. And so Democrats, once again, pro-slavery, I guess. Jenny Vett says, Tim, my first child was born today, a beautiful boy. I was hoping to get a Phil Metal yell, maybe next time. Love you guys, congratulations.

That's great. There was a great post where, I mean, it was kind of silly. There was like this dude on a private jet and he was like 42, big crypto portfolio. Guess what I'm taking my jet to. And I think it was Jason Howerton was just like, he was like,erton was just like, he was like, I was hanging out with my kids today, there's nothing more valuable or whatever.

And I'm like, you don't need to rag on a guy just because he's on a jet and he's excited and he's having a good time. However, to be fair, I went Topgall with my wife and I held my daughter while we cheered for my wife as she swung and there's nothing more valuable than that. Like there's nothing I could buy that is better than that. Look at Tim becoming a big mush.

I love it. And a dad. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Yup. And all the guys out there who have kids are going like, oh, I know it. I know it. And everyone says, well, cherish it now because it goes quick.

You know, a couple of years she'll be walking around doing her own thing. You know what I mean? But for now, you know, I get to hold the baby while she waves at mom and mom is playing golf and it's fun. Nothing. There's nothing more valuable than that. That's why I feel really bad. Cause I, talking about like all the dating stuff, I was like, the way I see my wife holding my daughter

and like the joy she has, it is the, it is euphoria beyond euphoria to be like, to see, like I can just, I don't feel, Neil as much as whatever my wife must be feeling it is euphoria beyond euphoria to be like, I can just, I don't feel, Neil as much as whatever my wife must be feeling holding that baby, and I love my daughter, but women have a special powerful bond, and I'm like the idea that society told them

not to experience this is criminal. Yeah, it's wild, right? It's terrifying. Dude, feminism, I've said it before, bro, it's literally probably one of the worst things we could have ever experienced, humanity-wise. And the problem with feminism, it's like the Trojan horse to all the other progressive problems.

I can't go anywhere with my baby without women running up and going, ooh! And then my wife is giggling, and they're like, how old is she, oh my God. We went to a diner over the weekend, and all the servers ran over to come look at the new baby. And I'm like, it's because babies are awesome. And there's this, you know what it is,

we don't have a lot of time to get into all the feminism stuff, but we talked about it before. Who's the most likely to end up working as a writer? Women are more likely to get jobs in journalism. And if a woman is working, she's less likely to have a family. So you're getting this opinion skewed towards working women, releasing all the media to other women, telling them work is good.

Yeah, and I've said it before, they enable bad behavior. With women, it's like if you're fat or annoying, no one tells you you're fat and you're annoying. It's like, you're perfect and you're a queen and you deserve the world. It's like, I mean, it's crazy, dude. Did you see the thing where they told the women

to line up based on their own attractiveness? Oh, yes. And then the fat chick was number two. Yeah. And then she ended up in the back. Yeah. And it was just like, they were actually saying like, you're so beautiful.

Yeah, you're- It's terrible, bro. What? It's like with men, right? Like we kind of understand meritocracy and where we stand, like, and we'll make fun of each other. Like women will not do that. Like they don't hold each other accountable at all.

This is why they like, they'll be fat and still be delusional. It's crazy, man. All right, we got Elliot's 8069 says, "'Tim is absolutely correct. "'There is no evidence anymore.'" I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying why would there be?

Like if you knew Trump was gonna get in and expose you and his people had been screaming it, wouldn't you be like Biden? Get rid of it now. They had four years too. if there was anything, yeah, it would have. Let's say this, hypothetical scenario. The US, the Five Eyes spies,

totally not involved in anything Epstein was doing. Epstein handled this blackmail, and the Biden administration would not be in any way implicated by it at all. They knew other people would be. It could be as simple as them saying, we don't want Trump to be able to blackmail people, so get rid of it.

Like even in the, like. Oh, I see what you're saying. The left. From the prime administration. Yeah, the left is making the argument. When I said, I think Democrats destroyed, they're like, Tim won't admit that Trump is on it, blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like, ah, he might be, I don't know. I doubt it because the Democrats would have released it. Yeah. But Democrats, if they're implicated by it, or if Trump could wield it as a weapon, don't want them to have it. Either way, they have reason to get rid of that Evans. Well, that's why I don't think whatever comes out is even the fullness of what comes out.

We can't even get full COVID studies. There's a lot of stuff that, I mean, the whole intelligence community exists for the guardian of intelligence. They're not going to release what they don't want, they don't want to release. We can't get the truth of gain of function research. Here's what I don't get though. And that was just a couple of years ago. The Trump admin has carte blanche right now

to go after literally anybody wants. They have to play it. Trump effectively has the death note. He could create a list and just put his enemies on it and be like, here's the Epstein list and drop it on the table. And then people are going to say, no, look, if the Trump admin issued an unsigned, undated memo saying this is the Epstein list and it was literally just a list of Trump's enemies,

people would be like, this is it. This proves it. Like he could do it. When was the Trump raid on Mar-a-Lago? It was like two or three years ago in the summer. Yeah. I think it was like August of 2022. Yeah.

All right, so at this point in the Biden administration, that hadn't happened yet, six months into the Biden administration. But the J-6 hearings had already started. So if Trump wanted to be as vindictive, my point is, if he wanted to be as vindictive as the Biden administration was, what had Biden done by now six months in who had been arrested? Peter Navarro was already shackled and dragged out of Reagan airport by now. Steve Bannon was in jail by now.

I do have the Brennan investigation. Sure, sure. And those are good things, but this is how I know the Trump admin is not evil. Trump could literally just be like, you you know give me a list of 50 names that we don't like between business you know politicos, activists, I don't know give me a hundred names and then we'll just release this as our formalized DOJ official statement of the names we believe were involved and then they can sue good luck like Trump could do. Like the amount of power Trump has in just naming anybody without evidence,

doesn't even matter if he gives that answer now. I mean, you could definitely, you know, when you guys spin it like that, I mean, yeah, you could have absolutely, you know, went on retribution. Because the thing is, you know, I've even said it, like they tried to destroy him. You know, I covered all of his criminal cases extensively,

and the one that really had me the most worried that I think would have jammed him up was the classified document case actually. Because people were saying, oh yeah, it's classified. He could declassify it. Dude, it's NDI, National Defense Information. You're cooked. Like it doesn't matter what the classification is.

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