Timcast IRL - Bomb Threat At TPUSA, Bomb Squad Deployed For Controlled Detonation w/ Jonathan Otto & Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Tim, Tate, & Luke are joined by Jonathan Otto & Jack Posobiec to discuss a bomb threat targeting a TPUSA event in Utah, a DHS sniper targeting an Antifa thug harassing Nick Shirley, federal workers to resign en masse, and The View melting down over Hegseth & Trump implementing higher standards for the US Military.   SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwNTXWEjVd2qIHLcXxQWxA/join Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Tate @RealTateBrown (everywhere) Luke @WeAreChange (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Jonathan Otto Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms!

A suspicious package was detonated in Utah at a university where a T.P. USA event was supposed to take place. Apparently, this was a hoax, a threat. And the bomb squad was called in because they weren't entirely sure. But we're getting the details now on exactly what happened. So obviously, we'll talk about that, why it's happening. Apparently, there were many other bomb threats called in across Utah. With that, there's a lot to talk about with Trump deploying National Guard, supplementing federal agents in various cities, and how the left is going to respond to it. Plus, considering we are here live from TPUSA, I thought this is a pretty important thing to talk about. We also have a bunch of other news, though. The government is shutting down. The White House has a countdown on the shutdown. It appears inevitable.

So we will talk about that, how the White House is reacting to it. Plus, this morning, Hegseth, Secretary of War, gave an amazing speech about how the military will no longer be woke. My favorite thing was that he's saying he's going to make everybody, regardless of rank, maintain their first. physical fitness standards and get tested. And then the view got all butt hurt about it. It was like, what's wrong with our soldiers being fat?

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We've got Jonathan Otto. Hey, how's it going? It's going great. Who are you? What do you do? I'm an investigative journalist. I do a lot of work in the medical field. I'm the founder of a red light therapy company,

Red Life. Always up for conversations around the cutting edge of what's going on, how to help people with life-threatening issues like cancer, autoimmune disease and help people stay alive in these desperate times and give people solutions right on thanks for hanging out jack the sobic is here tim i appreciate you being here this week i know you're going to be hosting for uh the great charlie kirk coming up and uh i'll do my best it's really

great for you to see you and how all the people have really been coming in in a time like this we're here in the turning point studio i remember a couple years back we were you know you were out for an am fest and we actually tried to set up timcast in this room and Remember it didn't work and at first. At first it didn't work. But I think we went back to Charlie's studio or something. And so here we are and it's working. We just, we don't have Charlie with us in person.

Yeah, I know, man. When we walked in yesterday for the first time and I saw it, right behind us is where Charlie helped put that studio together, plus the TPSA crew. Yeah. And I walked up and the first thing in my brain was like, hey, look at the screens. This is where we, and then my brain clicked, Charlie was killed. And it was like getting hit in this head chest with a sledgehammer. Coming into this building for myself was,

It hit in such a strange way that I wasn't expecting because I guess the best word is haunted. It just felt, and not like haunted by Charlie, but just everything felt off. Like it felt off being in a place that I so associate with Charlie, but then also knowing that Charlie is not here and he's not coming back. That's why I wanted to lead with this video of a detonation at the university. Yeah, and we've got, we've got everything's, everyone's safe. Everyone's good. I've got info on that.

This is crazy. But yeah. All right. Well, Luke's hanging out, too. Yeah, we got a lot of stuff to talk about. There's refueling aircraft moving from Europe to the Middle East. The pizza index is pretty high near the Pentagon. But, hey, at least the government is shutting down soon. So, yeah, happy to be here.

Luke Ruddowski, YouTube.com, port slash we are change. Jack, very much am I here. Thank you. Tate's here. What's up, and I'm going to be Polish for you guys, but good evening, Patriots. Feltz, happy to be here. I agree. Right?

I get that right. All right. Here we go. We got the story from Newsweek. Suspicious package detonated ahead of Utah State Turning Point USA event. Utah State University ordered an emergency evacuation Tuesday of its old main building after a suspicious package was found. University officials and local media reported. The campus was cleared as law enforcement and bomb squad's investigated device. We've actually got this video. This is crazy. Check this out. So, Jack, what happened? Yes, what you're hearing there is the police.

I'm not sure exactly if it was local police or campus. There were a lot of units and various agencies that were there protecting the turning point event. But what you're hearing is them using a device to render it safe and neutralize whatever would have been inside. What I've been told since, so that was not the bomb exploding or something like that. that. What I've been told is that it looks like this was a hoax bomb device. So this was not just a suspicious package that was left out. It was actually a package that had some, you know, wires associated with it, things like that, where it was designed to look like a bomb. And that also there was a bomb threat called in to the campus at the same time. So concurrent. And what it

looks like is that they were trying to get a full campus-wide evacuation and then a lockdown to try to interfere with the turning point event that was taking place. Now, that old main building, that is not the building where the turning point event is going on and will continue to go on, which is on the other end of campus. That building is under complete lockdown by, as I just said, we've got state, local, federal agencies that are there protecting the event and the students today. So because that was under such lockdown, it seems that whoever was trying to do this didn't have any access to the arena where that's taking place and what they instead did was try

to attack another building that didn't have the same security posture and use that to try to create this disturbance so while that building was evacuated the events going on everybody is safe first responders absolutely hats off to everybody that was willing to put themselves into harm's way to do what they did to take to make take measures to make sure that that device was was in fact not an explosive device, keep everybody safe. But just unfortunately, that's the times that we're living in. And I also heard that report as well that there were other universities around Utah, not we're turning points holding events.

We're only holding one event tonight. We've got Alex Clark. We've got the governor there. So, of course, state police are out in full force, a number of other officials. And so, you know, and we had people who were even inside that event who didn't know about the bomb threats. So we called in, hey, guys, are you all right? It said, all right from what? You know, we're just out here.

And they've got volunteers, you know, putting placards up and putting signs on chairs and things like that. So we'll let them know what was going on. They said, no. And then, you know, we've been able to sort of back channel since then. But it looks like something went on where multiple campuses around the state were had threats. Did you guys see a, you did? I know, I know you did. But Stephen Crowder has brought back, changed my mind.

Yeah. And he went out today. He posted a video of this. it is it's brave to say the least but uh Stephen told me something a week or so ago we did we did an hour long show together and he said he he he feels bad he feels guilty because when he was doing these events he did not explain the threats and the violence he was facing he downplayed it and I think largely the reason he and many others especially in the right have not spoken about the threats and the violence they face is because we are

constantly told, you don't want to feed it. If you come out and you say these things are happening, you're going to make it worse. And what ends up happening is, Crowder does these events. He rarely, only when it's on camera, when like when it actually happens, as he talk about it, and usually he doesn't. The same thing is true for us. Like I've been saying, you know, we had that year where we got swatted 15 times. It's never stopped. We just don't talk about it anymore because security says it's probably not a good idea. But the problem then is the perception most people have is, oh, they're fine. Nothing's really going on. And now, how has it gotten to the point where we are once again opening a show talking about

a man that we miss who was taken from us by violent psychopath terrorists and another event turning point is trying to put on to talk to people? This is very obvious that someone did this to try and shut your event down. It gets to this point, I think, with all due respect to each and every one of us who's been involved in this, because I don't think we talk about the seriousness of the threats we face enough out of concern we'd make it worse. In fact, that just allowed it to grow and fester and get worse. There were, I mean, you know, just to confirm what you're saying, there were, Charlie was getting death threats on a regular basis, even when, you know, he calls the summer

kind of like his off season because that's when, you know, school's out of session, but he he would get threats all the time. Obviously, you know, you guys are here. You've seen the security posture, which we have upped at the turning point facility since this took place. And in fact, In fact, we were in the process of, you know, reconfiguring and enhancing and escalating the security presence here on the Turning Point campus, which, and you guys, I'm sure we don't have to go into it right now, but you're sure you saw all the security that we have out. Now, the 24-7, the monitoring, the technical, and even stuff that you don't see that was, they were in the, so Charlie was in the process of doing that here locally, hardening

this facility when this happened. And so people were saying, oh, how come there's construction going on? It's like, well, no, we were in the process of doing that when, you know, we lost him when he was murdered. And so this has been something that has gone on. Now, obviously, look, people have seen publicly, though, that people like, you know, when Riley Gaines was essentially detained by Antifa, you know, a couple of years back, when Olivia Kralchick was attacked on campus, when Charlie has gone to events on campus, and there's been these huge attacks. call it antifa call left wing groups uh whatever you will these are clearly coordinated violent events that were going on and it just wasn't taken seriously it just it wasn't taken seriously i think by law enforcement in general obviously the previous administration didn't have any

interest in going up against these groups and in many cases facilitated these groups and they still will sit there and claim that these these things don't exist when we still have to deal with on their they're celebrating it now yeah they're either celebrated or defend defending the motivating ideology and the lies and the smears i uh you know jack was mentioning you got asked if we were in a civil war here goes timpool saying civil war again everybody drink yeah we did that we did that cnn interview like see where that white dot is over there on the floor that's pretty much where i was sitting i don't know how this you know as as phil lebanti says where's there's no off ramp there and and it's it's fascinating the response was

especially after Charlie was killed, that Charlie was the off-ram. He was going out and saying, let's talk about it. And he was talking with a lot of run-of-the-mill libs who were asking him questions. And I think this is what was so scary and is scary to these libs and these leftists is that once people actually got a chance to talk to Charlie, they were like, oh, okay, this is not crazy. These are not far right. These are not a threat. And this is one of the motivating factors for why I think they want to stop these turning points.

events. I mean, you look at it, right? And it's, it's this idea of, well, people would sit there and say, and people do this all the time. Let's say, oh, well, Charlie said something on, you know, on one of your podcast or he said something about MLK. And I know the whole litany of things that they say, and it's always out of context. But the point being is that even if you disagree with Charlie or even if you think that he got his facts wrong or something, you know, what better place to hash that out than in a literal conversation on a college campus? I mean, this is the mind. I mean, this is the and classical public square we're going to go we're going to be on campus he titled these things you know prove me wrong as in i and if you disagreed and i know it's been said but it really needs to be

to be pounded in that if you disagreed with him he would say please come to the front of the line and if people started heckling he'd be like hey stop that no more no heckling if someone was nervous if they were reading he would say it's okay take your time he'd say let's afford them the grace they don't afford us let's let's do that i mean he's he there is nothing else he could have done to try to facilitate this kind of debate and as as as as and tim you know to your point as well i know you've talked about so many times that it's so hard to find people on the other side who are willing to even sit down in debate like that they just you can't get them if you have money we we send out emails all the time and the response from libs is

usually how much and so we like we don't we don't ever give money or accept money for people to come on this show because i was about to say man i've been on the show how many times my money tim wait people are getting paid wait you're getting paid what's going on bro nope and so and so this is intentional we don't let people buy their way on which there are some shows that do a big company will be like hey we'll give you money if you give us a guest buy we don't do that and there's uh uh and the inverse of trying to pay people to come on shows when we email they ask for money we say we don't we'll cover travel and accommodation we don't pay this they're not interested and i'm like okay i guess sometimes there's some people who will but they're usually smaller and they're

trying to find a way to get attention. The big name guys, I think, you know what I think about the liberals? I think their high priests are largely just, what will get me clicks and make me money? And so they don't actually want to have a debate. Why is it? Who was it? I think Bill Maher did a segment on this where he said, he's like, we've reached out to the Clintons, to the Obama's. They won't come on the show to sit down with a guy who voted for him. But the conservatives are begging to come on. Yeah. Well, I mean, the fact that there are already. Charlie went on Bill Marr was one of his last big like you know cross the aisle kind of interviews he went on Gavin Newsom as well and i think that's why bill mar made the statements he did just a few days ago

saying hey this left wing violence is insane and it's crazy he's one of the few people that actually is speaking out against it uh john fetterman as well he just came out and talked about how left wing terrorism is at a 30 year high and he's demanding people stop calling conservatives hitler and fascists so this has been building and brewing for a very long time tim you've been calling it out i know i've been looking at this for a very long time Ever since Occupy Wall Street, they were playing up on these type of differences amongst race. And when we see Ilhan Omar a couple years ago, now issuing the same lines like Don Lamon, talking about how evil white men are, this brings up, even though they love white men and are married to white men themselves. Yeah, that's true.

Colonizing the sheets. These individuals clearly are spreading a rhetoric that is meant to dehumanize people. It's meant to devalue them. It's meant to destroy conversations from ever happening because you're Hitler, you're fascist, you're supposed to be someone that's going to be killing me and hurting me. That's their type of emotionally manipulated gas-lit type of viewpoint, which is deranged and insane and only going to become more deranged, especially with all the SSRIs and seed oils that they take that's going to destroy their guts and their gut lining is going to be destroyed and then their minds are going to be destroyed.

Yeah, and then you look at John Fetterman. I wish he would have had some more words for, you know, Josh Shapiro in the city of Philadelphia. where they just flew the flag of China over the city yesterday. Yeah. Well, and it was like you were saying, I mean, the fact that it's like pulling teeth

to get them to even show up to these debates just shows that there's already been this culture on the left of just giving up on civil discourse anyway. So it's not really a surprise that they're getting more and more violent, especially now with the Trump administration. They feel like they're in the back foot. They feel like they're cornered. Of course they're going to lash out

because there's already this culture of giving up on civil discourse. Let's jump to this story. We got this on the post millennial. Antifa terrorists threatens to effing smoke. journalist Nick Shirley at Portland protest, but wait, there's more. On the rooftop, it appears DHS lasered this guy. So they've, I'm assuming what, they've got counter snipers now for ICE, considering the three terror attacks that have happened already. This guy's threatening Nick Shirley for a good couple of minutes. All of a sudden you see a light flash and a laser

lands on this guy. Two antifiduits come up and tell him to like, hey, look, look out. They're, they're pointing at you. This is a crazy escalation. I mean, if you look at the video, too, because I watch this a few times. It almost looks like there's a laser on Nick as well, by the way. It looks like it's just a laser. I don't think it's a right thing. No, no, no.

I think this is lovel light. I don't, the laser's clearly on the dude. No, no, but the laser's kind of sloppy because it's far away. And you kind of see it kind of move over a little. Yeah, because I think they were also trying to look for somebody who has been, I mean, I don't know, right? I'm just saying I'm not entirely sure.

Yeah, there's definitely is lovel light. Okay. I have the right to film. You have DHS watching you. there, lasered on you. You have a sniper lasered on you right now. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, no, it's just on him. So, well, yeah, just saying, I don't know if we

know if we can say for sure it's definitely a sniper. I don't think it's a sniper. I think it's a sniper. I think it's just a laser and why. But who's on the roof with just a laser and why? Like, if you're law enforcement, like, you, like, you, you want to pay attention to the situation, but obviously until it escalates, you don't want to put a sniper on somebody that you're ready. I think ICE has got

counter snipers because they've been attacked by dudes hiding in the woods. No, no, no, I'm not saying they don't. I'm just saying based on that, I'm not 100% sure, but obviously this video, that being said, though, this video infuriates me because this is Portland. Portland has had an active, Rose City Antifa has been active in Portland since 2007, so 20 years, 20 years they've been active and who's controlling the streets right there, right? Nick Shirley is the most peaceful guy you will ever meet in the game. He's a guy who does incredible work. he goes in some of the most violent areas and he's always completely chill he doesn't get in anybody's face doesn't bother anybody he's you know very very peaceful he just reports and and yet this antifa

goon is able to walk up and threatened to kill him could have killed him and you know i just don't understand how we've got to this point like what is the federal government doing i get that we've got deployments guys we have have do not have positive control of the street if you're allowing thugs and domestic terrorists like this psychopath to be able to do that to a guy like Nick. Or by the way, do that to anybody. Why has this been going on? I mean, since the escalation of the culture war with the battle for Berkeley and all that stuff, we started seeing these clashes, it has been nonstop that people on the right or anti-establishment press,

not even anti-establishment press, are threatened with violence and death, don't fight back. and there's we we are now in the second trump term he could have done something in the first term he's not what are they doing right now i mean i like this at the bare minimum point again i'm saying we're watching you and they have started making arrests i like that uh the feds are being deployed i like the national guard being deployed i think they should just go out and say straight up you are not this is not a peaceful protest you will be arrested we're going to arrest you we're going to five four three to one you're under arrest I mean people showing up to Portland threatening to kill journalists

it's not a peaceable assembly that could have gone sideways really fast for Nick and I think we all know that especially in a post charlie same city and in a post Charlie Kirk world we all have to under we have to understand that someone like that wearing black in a mask is a violent and potentially lethal threat period you just have to believe in them when they tell you things like and he's saying I'm going to smoke you yeah we all know what that we all know what that means either he really really likes him or and and and and to nick i mean brother you can't be going out there by yourself man i mean it looks it looks like he's by himself in this clip i don't know if he is or not but

even if you have a security security is going to tell you because i've dealt with this problem because i love being out there i love on the street reporting i can't do it anymore because you become the story i don't want to become the story i just want to document the story security is going to hold you back and say no sorry you can't go in there and they won't protect you and they can't protect you in these type of situations especially when you have one two three four five people six people 20 people gather all around you you're kind of screwed and I've been in those situations too where they just kind of surround you and they're like you're a fascist uh in germany they were calling me uh fascists and I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm the

Polish guy right all right and you got Germans calling me a Nazi I'm like get out of here and then of course they pounced on me and then the cops like yeah sorry kid get out of here we can't help you that I'm like really like five five years ago you know I was was that they were doing this protest to try to tear down an Abraham Lincoln statue in Washington, D.C. And I went out there, I was with O.A.N. at the time, and I went out there just to cover the event. And the minute they saw me, they're like, oh, Jack Posobic is here. And then Antifa shows up, which, you know, we weren't really expecting them to be there in the middle of the day like that. But because it was the Summer of Love, you know, they were obviously way more heightened

than usual. And there's that, you know, picture of me and, you know, the Antifa leader that came out that day. But I was instantly surrounded. And the police. least were on the outskirts of the parks. So this was a national park because DC has a lot of like federal national parks around. And they couldn't even get to me in that point. And actually it was Kevin Cork from Fox News had a security detail with him. And even though we're, you know, quote unquote competing networks, he had his own security detail. And I had like a videographer and, you know, another like an intern with me. And Kevin Cork was like, no, go go help that guy out. So he sent his security detail in to get me out of there.

Have you guys seen this one from the Salt Lake Tribune? Bagley cartoon, politics and religion, the god-fearing right, and it is a ripped dude with camo pants and a black shirt loaded with guns in God we trust and a maga hat. The radical violent left is some lanky guy with a guitar that says this machine kills fascists. This is a, this is a cult. They're in a cult.

No, no, no, no. Somebody used to have that on their, uh... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like Ian if he had... Bob Dylan or somebody. No, that was like Arlo Guthrie or something like that. I don't know. The point is, when have we seen, honest question, in the past five years, a...

Woody Guthrie, was Woody Guthrie. Was it a... What is it? What do you got three? Chad Maga guy with a gun who's done anything. Like, okay, I see this picture of this guy. What's the intention they're trying to make with this? Because I've seen Magadids at the range.

I've not seen churches get shot up or kids be killed. I've seen leftists do all of those things. So the dynamic that we're dealing with right now is that, while the right you know on you know on on par per capita has more firearms but the left is the one that's willing to use violence and the left is the one that's willing to break the law and go out there and climb up on a roof and shoot someone in the neck and the right is saying hey law enforcement federal state local which by the way at Utah worked really well so I'm I don't want to sound like I'm putting down all of them but it's like it's like we don't

don't want to go to that place, whereas the left is saying, we don't care what the law is, you're a fascist. And by the way, that's what they mean when they say you are a fascist. I'm trying very careful to keep this within YouTube guidelines. But what they're saying is, you are next on the list. Yep. And that's what that means. That is 100% what that means. Well, even in the comic, like on the left, in God we trust, that's a defensive posture. And even with the guitar, with the messaging on there, it's still an offensive posture. Yeah, it's still a violent message. It's still an offensive. Yeah. So it's like, okay, it's not But you get the propaganda. The propaganda is the God-fearing writer are going to kill you because they're crazy guys with guns.

But the violent left, it's just some guy who sings. What do you mean? And yeah. Does he sing Bella Chow? Yeah, exactly. And then are they going to lie and claim the Groyper's sing Bella Chow because they think we're morons? Oh, it was a complete lie. It was a complete lie. It was a complete lie. Baseless lie that the Groyper had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder. And it was done. And by the way, though, it was done in such a way that Jimmy Kimmel, who came out. and spread a version of that lie, that it was the MAGA right who did this were, and by the way, that's why I, you know, when I saw Joe Rogan laughing about it and that clip of me kind of blew up,

I was like, well, look, I don't think this is a laughing matter because what you're doing is you're painting a target on the backs of anyone on the right saying, you are the violent ones and the left are not violent. And it has been, this was a disinformation operation and it was done so acutely that there's probably something like 30% or more, more. And I think some of the U-Gov polls came out on this that said that the left even think it was a

liberal. Excuse me. 30% of liberals thought that it was a conservative who shot Hillary Kirk. I agree what Joe said was, you know, there's complaints about it. But what I was most offended by was when he said that Jimmy Kimmel's joke was funny. It wasn't funny. I mean, I am kidding, of course. But like, he said the joke was funny because he mocked Trump for not grieving properly. and my response to that bit was like when Trump was asked about it and then said look we're doing construction or whatever it's like oh did Trump just not here

that's it that's it yeah there's so much construction going on at the White House right now because they had to do like drainage on the South lawn and you know you just you can't hear stuff yeah I was thinking when my team we were out at in Portland doing just a rally around medical

freedom a few years back right these were important conversations Antifa, just like there was nothing that we were doing that was in any way aggressive toward their mission. But they were banging on everything, like overpowering, making the doctors feel really unsafe for presenting Del Big Tree. And I was speaking out there and Dr. Henry Ealy, just seeking to be a part of a positive change and seeking for medical freedom. And yet it was any conversation, anything that you say, we don't want you to say it. We don't want that discourse. and these were the things that meant that people like Charlie weren't safe in these environments.

Isn't it funny, though, that Antifa is just on the side of whatever big business and the government wants the narrative to be, they will fight for it. So it's like when I see these videos of there were a bunch of people that they're, I can't even call them Trump supporters. They're just people protesting mask mandates. Antifa showed up starting a beat a crap out of them. And I'm like, hold on. The Antifa people are attacking just random protesters who are outside of a hospital. There's a handful of them. they're not even political. They're not Trump supporter.

They weren't. What is going on? They're so neutral, right? They were just there to speak about medical freedom, which was good for those folks that they, that were attacking them. That was a great thing for them to stand for. Let's jump to the story. We got big news from Newsweek. Largest mass resignation in U.S. history as 100,000 federal workers quit. Got what I voted for award. Yeah. Do you see the Austin Peterson, Mimi posted of Donald D.

with the heart on saying got what I voted for again award and he's wearing a magad. I want my medals. Oh, no. Not enough. I demand more. Oh, no. Yeah. Some 100,000 federal workers are set to formally quit the U.S. government in what will constitute the largest mass resignation of government workers in U.S. history. The resignations which come as part of the program drawn up by President Donald Trump at the start of the second administration will happen on Tuesday as Congress is facing a deadline in the same day to authorize more funding or risk government shutdown. If there is no deal, the White House has ordered federal agencies to make plans for the large-scale redundancies.

I love this, though. They're like, why it matters, the loss of federal workers will have a huge impact on operations across different parts of government and could disrupt services, including the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Social Security Administration.

And no, no, no, hold on. Why did they bring up those two departments? Because they are attacking boomers intentionally, who they think won't look into this and aren't paying attention. The 100,000 workers will disrupt everything. So why is Newsweek specifically high highlighting SSA and the VA, they want boomers who are dependent on these things to be angry at

Donald Trump, which explains why when I think it was real clear politics put out their age support for Trump by age, the only age bracket that was anti-Trump was 70 plus. Super boomers. Super boomers. Every other age bracket was pro-Trump except for, I think, 40-year-olds who are neutral. This is why they do it. I don't think it's going to work. out for them very well because, and I mean this with all due respect to boomers, I don't want to be crass and crude want to say this, but they're at what's called the mortality shelf, the mortality cliff. Oldest boomers are now 79 years old. That's mortality. So what is being predicted now

is when the next five years we'll see something like 40 to 60 percent of boomers leave in a manner of speaking, die. So this mainstream media attempt at pandering to the super boomers, as as Jack described them. It's not going to play out for much longer. And what we're seeing now with Gen Z, and it does tie back into what we're seeing with the violence in the streets, T.P. USA, rallying young people,

showing them the right path. I think the future of this country is moving in the right direction. Which, by the way, I don't know if you want to pull it up, but like Brick Suit is at the Utah event right now and he's posting videos from inside. It is packed to the rafters.

It is a sea of patriots. People are cheering. people are chanting students and it looks like people from off campus you know we're back no step back no surrender is it right here that's it right there yeah no shut the event down yeah no that's what it's all about step back this is what libs just don't realize is we have the secret sauce we have patriots who will be like they will save this country kicking and screaming it's the secret sauce they don't realize you can't you can't demoralize this this demographic we actually we actually literally do

love god and country yeah and we actually are willing to fight for it and the more of this that you do the more events we're going to do the more deployments we're going to do into races like by the way New Jersey, super tight race. You know, people are talking about getting in there. Scott Pressler, Cliff Maloney, myself, et cetera. You know, you've got this wave of positive energy that is going to completely sweep the nation. I know you saw what Benny Johnson was doing up there at Penn State. Oh, yeah.

Nicole Shanahan. Nicole Shanahan's talking about doing a huge rally out in California to get a voter ID on the ballot. I mean, people are taking the horrible thing and truly horrible thing that happened to Charlie. and saying, how do I get active? The ESPN host just said he might step down and run for Senate. He's like never even been political. Who's Stephen Smith or you're not talking about him, are you? No, no.

In Alabama. And, you know, and it's just saying that, and specifically cited the inspiration, Paul Feinbaum, yeah. And he, he said, look, you know, them taking out Charlie made me step up and realize that maybe there's some things that are more important that I've been putting off. And to walk away from something like that, it's just amazing. And that's what's happening right now. Just to go back to this story, the real question I have for you guys, I suppose, is what do you think the ramifications of 100,000 federal workers quitting is going to be? Nothing.

It's a drop in the bucket. We need more. We need to increase those numbers. There's 2.4 million government employees. Wow. That's nothing, right? So that's way too much employees. Fire as many of them as you can.

Please start at the Federal Reserve. Start cutting at the CIA. they're not doing anything good for us. The H-1B processors, just get rid of all wrong. I will say, if you go on Zillow in Northern Virginia right now, it looks like the rapture happened. Like there's so many houses for sale. It's beautiful right now.

Yeah, it's like self-selection, right? Sometimes the doors that you need to close for people, they just close on themselves and say, look, I'm out. And it's like, okay, thank you for self-selecting. It makes it easier. Yeah, Hegseth was saying this earlier. He said, if you don't like what I'm saying, then I expect you to resign.

and we will say thank you for your service. I was like, yeah, fire them all. I liked when Trump walked out. That clip, you're playing earlier where he was just like. We'll play that one in a second. Yeah, yeah, where he just, where they all kind of realized that, you know, hey, wait a minute, as it turns out, the American people made their voices heard. And Charlie Kirk was a huge part of that in the swing states and the deployments that came

out, the trainings that were done from turning point action, going to youth, going to those low propensity voters, figuring out in Tyler Boyer of. course, figuring out the formula to say, how do we go to people who have never voted before and get them interested in politics? And if we do that, that's different than saying, oh, we're getting a guy who's voted for Trump before. We're going to get someone who's never voted. And so when you look at it in terms of political mathematics, that's all profit. That's all net gain. So how do we go to particularly young men, young women as well, but particularly young men, Charlie understood that that's who he identified as that leading edge. And you've

seen it in poll after poll young gen z men breaking for trump pennsylvania wisconsin and then of course right here in arizona as well and it you can see the efforts play out because ari had the biggest swing from 2020 to 2024 and that's because of charlie kirk and turning point yeah i mean that's what the young men what kirk did is he just reminded young men of who they are like yeah you're an american remember who you are and that has a huge huge effect i mean obviously it's a secret sauce young Yeah, when you get, when you get, like, the high school football captain married to the beauty queen and, you know, and shout out to Erica, Time 100. Got just dropped today. And it's like, it's like, actually, we can just be better than them, as it turns out.

Yeah, you can just, yeah, you can just get them interested in politics. It's a very low bar. They're not that interested. So you just get them, what is this? What on earth? Wait, wait, I just pulled up the meme reference that Tate was making. So true. That's awesome.

So true. Literally us, Zoom are Patriots. I mean, this meme is really funny, for those of listening, it's a T-Rex emerging from the clouds, telling a chicken, remember who you are. But there's some truth to it. Could you imagine what the founding fathers would say to us today, looking at this country being like, no, no, no, this is all wrong. What is going on? They were having a heart attack. They're like, what?

Do you guys have an IRS? You guys have an ATF? What? Like, they would be... Your armies are deployed where? Yeah, all over the globe? How many... The Ottoman is.

What do you worry about the Ottomans for? You're going to be bombing Iran again? Come on. Like, that's just ridiculous. Like, come on. Those guys have flip-flops. Like, they're not a threat, all right? Those guys have flip-flops.

What made Charlie so powerful is his ability to speak into the heart and soul of people being able to tap into ethics, morals, and have them self-governing so that their convictions weren't just on a new cycle. It was something much deeper than that. And that's why the spiritual practices that he had, were so powerful. And so you go back and you look at all these nuances, what made him the man that he was and is today. And it was all about deep personal devotion to God that makes you immovable when it comes to things pertaining to the conscience and morality to hold to things like the

Ten Commandments, which the Sabbath was so important to Charlie. And I find that really inspiration. Yeah. So it used to be that Charlie was always very accessible by phone. He was a just, you know, a texting addict. He would, I asked him once to say, how many texts do you send a day? Because when I'd spend time with him, he's just constantly, right? Just like Tim right now. And, and he would say probably about a thousand. He just said probably about a thousand. And except on Saturdays. So if you wanted to get hold of Charlie on a Saturday, you would have to go to Erica. And that's only emergencies only. And, you know, we rarely would ever do that but it was he would take Saturday off of his phone and it would be pretty much

pretty much Friday night into you know Saturday night Sunday morning is there was no phone and he would unplug and it was all family time or reading or being with the Bible and you know it just kind of hit me that you know on this past Saturday that it's I was I was thinking like oh I got to text Charlie's thing and I was like oh wait it's Saturdays because my normal routine kicked in so it's Saturday so I can't text him But then it kicked in again that every day is Saturday now. Wow. Oh, that's so beautiful.

The book that is set to drop December 9th, Stop and in the Name of God, right? So this is Charlie's book. You guys probably could tell me more in terms of the release. Yeah, so he's writing a book about this. Yeah. Or had written a book about this. Yeah. Stop in the name of God, why honoring the Sabbath will transform your life.

And this, if you look at the historical relevance of this, it was everything to do with having people having deep devotion to God and it was the underpinning like because what did Charlie stand for the utmost morality he was trying his very best to be moral in all categories defending life and then you know speaking about sexual impurity debating the only fans girls or you know all these different things that were so important and the underpinning of them that that you look at the ten commandments the Sabbath is the one that acknowledges God as the source of all things and says remember the Sabbath to keep it holy six days shall you labor and do all of your work but the seventh day, the Sabbath of the Lord your God, in it you shall do no work.

And that devotion gave people historically strength to withstand all types of oppression and persecution. Millions of people gave their lives because they were unwilling to surrender this day of worship because it was their allegiance to God and it was for Charlie. And I think that that's something that people can really think about because it will cement morals and values so deeply in people that they will not be willing to let this country turn to trash. Amen. Let's jump to the next big story then about this country, potentially turning to trash, because the Democrats shutdown, Trump is calling it. We've got from the time of recording this three hours and 20 minutes, this is the White House.gov government shutdown clock with a

big red banner saying Democrat shutdown is imminent. CNN says U.S. braces for government shutdown as midnight deadline looms. Can I just say they're there, CNN is hyping this up like it's going to be the or something like there's no laws after midnight and the siren comes out you know like in the movie you know i thought that was the case it's not the case no yeah no it actually is no trump's gonna come out and he got a great idea trump has an opportunity to do an incredible thing right now and he could say the democrats don't want to fund it you know what we're not going to fund it we're going to get rid of the irs we're going to get rid of the federal reserve we're going to go on a go fund me system and you're going to so if you want to bomb iran here's our go fund me for bombing iran if you want to

If you want social security, give send go, sir. Yeah, you're right. Give send go. So it's, it's apologies for that. So give send go. But yeah, I mean, that's how the government should run. In all seriousness, though, Trump wouldn't do that. But he does have an opportunity of firing lots more people.

Yeah. He can say to them, okay, if you're not going to fund this, he already, he already instructed federal agencies to prepare for redundancies. They're basically saying, we don't have the funding for this, so we're going to start firing way more people. The Democrats tried playing politics, as they often do, saying we demand. all of these policy changes. What did they want?

They wanted, what was it, $1.5 trillion in certain, they wanted funding, health care funding for non-citizens for illegal immigrants. The Republicans say no to this. Democrats say then we're not going to vote for it. Now Trump can be like,

oh gee, I guess we can't pay, I guess we've got to fire people. Well, there's that, there's that video from Maxine Waters that James Blair just tweeted out and he's basically like, where she says something about, somebody asks her,

okay, so are you really, really demanding health care for illegal aliens. And she's like, well, we want health care for everyone. It's like, so you admit it. Like in the same token, right, remember illegal aliens don't vote. But then the illegal alien who was found to be a school board supervisor in Iowa is actually registered to vote in Maryland since 2012. And he's not a U.S. citizen at all.

But I'm sure he never actually cast a ballot. I mean, that would be crazy, right? Yeah, he's been here for what? But how long has he been here? Like 12, 13 years or something? Yep. Or at least he was registered for that long. He might have been here longer.

And he was getting paid, what, 300 grand a year? Yep. And it sounds to me like that was probably, the name he's using is probably an assumed identity. And so he was under that because it's like a Bob Smith kind of name, you know, and this is, this is nuts. And so if that's happening, then just think of the, imagine that what we don't know about. I think we hear these numbers like, oh, the high end is 20 million illegal immigrants came into this country. I think it's way higher than that. Oh, yeah.

And I think when we uncover things like this where you've got a guy working as a superintendent getting paid, low, mid, six figures, I think it's probably way crazy than that. We get another story, we'll get to it a little bit about how in Minnesota they found half of all of these people were, these migrants, were committing immigration fraud

to come to the United States. Wait, not in Minnesota. Oh, heaven's mean? No, not Minnesota. No. No. In Ilhan Omar's district? There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way to fraud.

Well, you saw it. She's the shining a pitiful. me of ethics and morals. I know. Look how much he loves our family. Just, I mean, you look at that familial agape that we have there,

you know, it's Greek. It's very Greek. Yeah. The city of brotherly love. Philos delfos. Not that one. Philos delfos,

yes. Well, it's a Greek way. You saw like Stefanik, she put the, she put a memo out about how they're giving these CDLs out in blue states and there's just no name given on there.

Like, imagine how many no name givens there are in the country. I think there was a, there was a raid or something and they set up a checkpoint for CDLs and I want to say it was Oklahoma just this week or like the report came out this week and they found something like a hundred drivers in like in one rate in just one checkpoint that evening so if you can find that in one operation I mean again do the math like how many truckers do we have in this country and how many should we should not be on the roads in this country and that's an industry where

there is documentation required so just obviously you're driving a semi- down the road and we all see them and honestly like I'm just going to say it when I've noticed in my lifetime that used to be that that guys who were driving to semi got truck drivers like they were typically like some of the safest drivers oh yeah on the road like I remember growing up and it was great and you could you know you like get them to do the horn you know and they were just fun or my dad was really big in CB radio so we were always talking even though he didn't drive a truck but we were always talking to truckers and things like that because they used CB and you all had handles and stuff. And I feel like that whole culture is gone now. And when you see one of

those things driving down the road, the first thing I do is think, I got to get away from that because they drive so unsafely whenever you see them now. Oh, yeah, you go to Loves now and there's a whole trays of just samosas now. Yeah, exactly. It's game over. Yeah. Those are delicious. Yeah, but it's also a really bad indicator. But the indicator is that. You guys got to understand the power of British colonialism. Like chicken ticca masala was invented in Scotland. It's true. orange chicken I think was made in Hawaii right so a lot of people are like

look at all this food we made it it's ours I took credit for it well it was it was combined yeah with the tomato sauce and everything but let's be real Britain invaded and took over these countries stole their stuff and made it better well I mean could you imagine Tim Tim the diamonds are worthless if they stay in the ground

could you imagine with the world without colonization no chicken ticam masala what would we how would we live no orange chicken no orange chicken how would the how would we how would we live we'd be eating maize i'll take i'll take my casseroles if it means getting my country back orange i'll put up with it by the way recipes do exist i always love that line where they're like we're like well who's going to make the tacos i'm like my mom makes tacos like i haven't told you who can make tacos they live in these liberals live in a weird cult reality

like to throw it back to the government shut down stuff they're they're acting like this is the apocalypse like you were saying CNN's like the purge is going to happen no one's going to notice a thing now don't give me wrong there people who aren't going to get paychecks i understand all that that's that's bad for the people who work in government but i don't think our government sector should be so big by the way and i'll just say this as having been a government worker i think it was the 2014 shutdown the bainer one it was like 13 or 14 um and you get paid you just get paid later like everybody gets paid it's it's it's it's it's all a farce well the government can just print money whenever they want that they do and and what's going to happen though is that and the reason you're seeing this response

is because, you know, you were talking theology and Charlie's theology, well, the liberals have a theology too, and their theology is worship of the government. This is their theological devotion to government, particularly through the courts, the court system. And this is why you see them being so focused on, you know, it used to be the libertarian line about, oh, you can't legislate morality. But that's exactly what the Democrats do. They just don't do it with their quote, with a quote unquote organized religion, but they'll do it through every left-wing religion that they can find. Not just that, but you take a look at how we describe our rights. They are God-given. Yeah. They exist, irrespective of government. And what do liberals say?

Tim Kayne came up and got in that huge debate with, I believe it was Ted Cruz recently. He said, no, government gives you your rights. Government gives you your rights. And it's true that the government. And so what's true, though, is that no, Tim, government protect. Kane. Government protects your rights. Government is supposed to be, you know, in a, in a working system, the reason that you have government is say you have the right to, well, let's take Charlie's example, the right to exist. And when you have a group of people that exist to oppress you and take away your right to exist, then you can't have dialogue with them. So you're right to exist, you're right to freedom of speech, you know, and we have the whole litany of protected

rights that just because, and the Constitution itself even says in the Bill of Rights, these rights are not the only rights you have. They are just the rights that we have written down specifically here because they are so important that we want to make sure they are enshrined. You know, it's funny, Jack, as you mentioned, if people don't let you exist, how are you supposed to live in this country? The left has been screaming that for the better part of 15 years. They write it on their guitars. And the funny thing is, literally none of the mainstream right was advocating for with their elimination, they were just screaming things that weren't true and have now started killing

the people who are asking for a conversation. So I think now people on the right are starting to realize what time it is. That's the terrifying reality. This happened to my mother in Malaysia like 45 years ago under the Islamic government. And people don't realize how oppressive it can be. If you do not have the right to practice your faith

the way that you need to do that and to have your conscience and to serve and not have the governments usurp that so that it like you know people that are arguing for these ideals or these paradigms in a godless manner or or seeking to oppress the the freedom of the conscience my mom you know the newspapers at the time she got arrested and had a passport taken off her so she couldn't actually even escape the country and the Australian newspaper said you know Islamic woman converts to Christianity is death penalty possible And that was exactly what was invoked with my mother simply because she wanted to change her beliefs.

And we need to have systems that support our ability to practice our faith freely. And by a series of three miracles, she actually escaped, which is incredible, one of which she was visited on foot by a gentleman that explained to her that the indoctrination camp that she did get sentenced to, she was going to get executed at. and he left on foot, you know, this was a non-publicized case. How did he know this? It was just a judge in the room that sentenced her, and now she's got this intel she needs to escape, and then two other miracles happened. And so it's, look, personal faith,

the ability to practice these things, understanding that when people seek to oppress your freedom and how you seek to enter into discourse, the freedom by which you can dialogue, these are things that we need to fight for, and that's what Charlie stood for. Let's jump to the story from Newsweek. Trump threatens to fire generals on the spot if he doesn't like him.

We got this clip. It's an absolutely amazing rapid response 47 of Donald Trump greeting these, a bunch of generals and commanding officers. I think it was all the generals. It was all the generals. All the generals. Thank you very much, Pete. Great job you're doing, too. Fantastic.

I've never walked into a room so silent before. This is very, don't laugh. Don't laugh. to do that you know what just have a good time and if you want to applaud you applaud and if you want to do anything you want you can do anything you want and if you don't like what i'm saying you can leave the room of course there goes your rank there goes your future oh wow but you just feel nice and loose okay because we're all on the same team and uh i was told that sir you won't hear you won't hear a murmur in the room i said we had to loosen these guys up a little bit

So you just have a good time. I love that. I love that. Amazing. No one's ever talked to the, so this is general officer, flag officer. So generals and admirals on the Navy side and Coast Guard, if they have any admirals there, that just, again, no one's ever talked to them like that. They have so much power within the military system. They are considered, you know, just the highest of the highest staff upon staff upon staff.

And depending, and they're constantly competing with one another. the vast majority of them, who came up during the Obama years and the Biden years, they looked down on Trump. We've seen all of the military, you know, political correctness that was put out. Darren Beattie did a huge piece on this on Revolver and was talking about this, how they were specifically getting rid of people. And in many cases, you know, through the military war colleges, you would find that under Obama, really starting with Obama 1, that they promoted from within people who had the right

kind of politics. So people learn to parrot critical race theory or DEI or all of these climate change, whatever the various things were LGBT. Make sure you push all this stuff or you won't make rank. You won't be able to get all the way up there. And so that's what they all did. They all just went along with it. And suddenly they're sitting there going like, wait, who are you to tell us this? You know, you didn't do any of that stuff. Well, he's the president of the United States. And actually, he's your commander in chief. You're not the commander. He's the one that the American people voted for and delegated sovereign authority over the United States military and all other sovereign powers of the executive, too. The liberals should be terrified of these people.

These are generals who are willing to say and do anything for political power. These are the people who would follow any order without any shred of conscience. Donald Trump should fire these people. We want brave men and women who are going to stand up truly for what they believe in and for this country, not just hire overweight people. to fill quotas so they can get political points and advance their career. I mean, I'd be totally fine with firing the vast majority of them. America would be better off. I mean, you've got a problem with the force in terms of not just the, so the 07 level

and above, but 07 to 010, but you've got this across the government because those systems that I just talked about where the Obama's and then the Biden admin just went on steroids with this, plus, you know, they were getting rid of people over COVID. Those people, even if they come back, they're never going to be on their career leadership track again and so what they did is they set up an incentive structure for you to quote unquote be liberal be a leftist and then you could make rank and that's not just in the military that's across every single federal agency let's let's play ball why don't how about haggseth just says okay those guys that stood up for what they believed it and refused and either resigned or let go come back

and we're going to bump you up i mean you can you totally you you can and there's there's there's president of states as commander in chief i mean he'd have to he'd have to sign a lot of documents He could promote anybody right now. And he could also bust them down right now if you wanted to. He has absolute authority to do so. What do you think would happen if he was a constitutional authority? What if he like demoted them? That's what I'm saying.

He could bust them down to the rank of 01 if you wanted to. Or what he could do is he could reduce them. He could leave them in rank because there is legislation there. So he could leave them in rank, but he could reduce them in pay to that of a butter bar or to an 01. And he could like, he could switch their orders, you know, and make them all have to deploy to Antarctica or something. No, way Antarctica is fun. Okay, where should we send them? It's got to be, it's got to be somewhere like, T, it's like they got to clean the streets of Baltimore or something.

He totally make them do all that. Someone's got to peel the potatoes. Yes. I like cleaning streets of Baltimore or there's that video going around of, I guess it was the, you know, it wasn't the military, but it was Border Patrol and they were, they were up armored going down that one bridge in Chicago over the river and they're right in front of Trump Hotel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And David Axelrod is like, just look at this picture one picture says a thousand words and i said yeah and this one says hell yeah dude uh i'll i'll scream to the heavens i'm from chicago my friends everybody i know they're like cool no i don't know anybody complaining about it there's there's two reactions i get from my friends back home it's oh i don't know like oh hey do you see the ice guys walking

downtown oh are they yeah they're like walking down the street they're by like you know Wacker. And they go, huh. The other reaction is, hell yeah. I don't know. Anybody going, this is wrong. This is the third day.

I don't know, man. Neighborhood I'm from. People are happy that it's finally getting cleaned up. People are tired of having to get worried about being mugged or shot at in a ridiculous city. I just say, hey man, put Philly on the list. Don't forget Philly.

Keep in mind if we're doing America 250, we need Philly to be cleaned up by then. Oh, that's a good point. Need Philly to be cleaned up by the fourth of J. We only got, what, months? No, we only got a couple months left. Not even. I'm in Memphis. I'm just glad we jumped the line. I'm very happy, you know?

Yeah, Memphis is so... Memphis jumping the line. Memphis is, yeah, why does Memphis jump the line? Because we have FedEx, you know? We got to get these packages out, you know? That being said, what they do in Memphis, it's, it's horrific. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it's, it's, it's every city, though. It's every single American city that has become completely lawless. That's completely, it's, and, you know, you talk about Portland and the Nick Shirley video, but it's every city. It's, you can't have this anymore. We saw what happened in North Carolina and it's on purpose these these crooks well it's

absolutely on purpose it is a system called anarcho tyranny whereby an anarchy is allowed out on the streets to cow and terrify it is domestic terrorism against your own populace to say these criminals will be allowed at 39 times was the one Elon was tweeting about earlier today and he executed this i think that was south Carolina you know and her father came out and executed this girl on her knees i've been arrested 39 times yes thank you And that father is being very nice. I would not be able to just sit down and have a conversation if something like that happens. Yeah. And and the point is you will support the tyranny because the anarchy keeps you in check because you're so scared.

But one of the big pieces of this too is that governors have sovereignty in this country, not mayors. Mayors and cities do not have sovereignty. And yes, there's a lot of home rule charters that were. passed in the 1970s, but constitutionally, that is not sound at all. Under every state's law, the governor has sole sovereign authority of each state. And so when you've got these states, like at least South Carolina now, I know North Carolina has a Democrat governor and a Democrat AG, but in a place like South Carolina or Texas or, you know, take your pick, the governor's just got to start coming in. Not the nitpick. It's not full anarchy because people who defend themselves

are prosecuted by the George Soros district attorneys. It's not enforced where the government just stays out of the way. The government makes sure that when you stand up for yourself and you get attacked by these gangs that are approved by the state and have the state causes that they fight for, just like the Chavistas in Venezuela, the state always protects the people

who are committing the crimes on behets of the establishment, but the people who defend themselves have to, can't fight back. Right, and that's, yeah, no, he's explained, I didn't explain it it. You're right. That's the tyranny side, right? So the tyranny side is if you defend yourself,

you're a terrorist. You are someone who's an evildoer. You were someone who's like, wait a minute, they came at me or this guy was going crazy on the train like Daniel Penny and, you know, I defended myself like, and we can all sit and watch that that horrific video of Arena Zaruka. That was one of the last things I talked to Charlie about. One of the very last things I talked to Charlie about. I think it's, you can go look on his Twitter. It's like one of the last tweets that he actually had up was about her. Imagine if there was a Daniel Penny on that train. Now, I don't know if he'd been able to get there quick enough, just given the, you know, extreme nature and like the speed about what happened. But again, that's the point. He knew that there were no Daniel Pennies out there. Yeah. It's the culture. It's the culture of knowing that you could get away with this stuff.

And they won't do anything to you. That's right. And if there was a culture of, oh, people are able to carry firearms, people are able to defend themselves. If there wasn't national public examples of people defending themselves that are getting in trouble, the situation would be different and criminals would be thinking a lot different than they are like, oh, wait, I'm going to go to jail and I'm not going to get out in five minutes. Exactly.

And like regardless, all of this, too, it's like, else. Salvador is just proven in 2025 that crime is just optional. Like it's just, you can just turn it off. You can just turn it off. Buceli. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe we need to be more like El Salvador. Every, every liberal academic has just been completely debunked for like the last 50 years. Well, what if we offer, no, no, no, no, no, what if, no, shut up. You mean we can't just let the violent murderers onto the street? Buckele. Yeah. Just Buckele every city. Buckele every single city in America.

Higher Buckele is a consultant for every major city. Yeah, it's like he can't run for president, but can Trump appoint him, like, you know, as a, you know, special government employee, special consultant, you know, what was Elon? It was the SGE, right? You know, just he's a special consultant, right? I think the only way to get to the real root of this issue is exactly what Charlie would do to have discourse with people to help people navigate to their true north because violence will always exist unless there is a deeper philosophy, a belief, a morality.

that transcends that and that gives people a reason not to do those things, not to violate somebody else. And if you, I was doing some research last night on JD Unwin, who was from Oxford, he was looking at what happens over societies. He studied 81 different societies and looked at these moral, firstly the sexual revolutions that would happen

and then three generations down, this society would become so worthless and so degraded that they would become overthrown another group and he was not a christian as well or he was certainly was not known to be and so he was commenting on this of this of this big issue and if you look where we're you know three generations from from the free love and the free sex movement which was a complete degradation of christian values and the product we have we're seeing it today and to bring people back to that true north because again you look at look at the ten commandments say it says blatantly that shall not kill and these are

are the things that then not murder yeah yeah you got you yeah that one's that one's a deep one and and the part on that i'm sure that we'd agree on that people taking these matters into their own hands and going out to the streets and doing violent things we don't want to get to that point and by the way you mentioned Malaysia i mean what liquehuan you did in singapore right next door is you know he took an area that was a complete backwater port and turned it into one of the four asian tigers and And he did so through, you know, this imposition of a very strict legal system that was applied across the board. It was applied across the board.

It didn't matter what wrong a society you were from, that if you broke the laws or if you were an American tourist, guess what? This is going to be applied to you. And he took that and he made it this shining example of one of the most dynamic cities and robust cities in the world. Let's jump to this. We got this video. You see, Pete Heggseth, Secretary of War, said he's going to PT everybody.

It doesn't matter your rank. You've got to be physically fit. Well, the view had some... He fat shamed him. He did. The view had something to say about this. Let's listen to it and then make fun of them. I'm actually really befuddled by why he did that.

The optics were terrible, meaning all of our top military brass are all in one place, and we spent $6 million to get them there. That didn't make a lot of sense to me. It also didn't make a lot of sense to me that he was saying that he was going to toughen physical standards and review the anti-hasing policy. by sort of implementing a hazing policy. And then also he said he was going to return to the highest male standard for combat positions

because the troops were fat. I don't understand how that was supposed to be an uplifting message for our military. Maybe he was referring to Colonel Sanders. It was really a bizarre thing. He started talking about woke DEI policies. By the way, there are no gender quotas in the military. By the way, he fired more than a dozen military leaders, many of them

people of color and women. He fired the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, General Charles Brown Jr., who is African-American. He fired the first woman to command the Navy, Admiral Lisa Franquetti. I just, I don't understand the sort of hypocrisy of firing these people, having all these people meet together, and then denigrating them. Did you look at it? They look like, they're looking at him like he has two heads. Well, they didn't applaud the beginning of that you just saw. The president is Trump, President Trump said, if you want to applaud, you applaud. If you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room.

Of course, and then you heard the rest. There goes your rank in your future. But by the way, every one of these men and women in this room has been taught the entire time they've been in service, that it is apolitical. You're not right left. You're not red blue. You're not Republican Democrat. They don't show their politics because what you're doing on the battlefield is above politics. So they're not going to applaud.

They're not going to cheer. They're not going to boo. They're going to show up and listen to the committee. under and chief. But to see, remember when they hunted down members of the military social media profiles to figure out if they'd posted things like the Gadsden flag and they've been reprimanded or even kicked out? Well, people who didn't take the, um, the coup, you know. Well, so when Pete Heggzath himself wrote an entire book about how during the post-Jan 6 deployment, when our entire military or occupied Washington, D.C. and Biden's inauguration was not attended by anyone, that,

they came up with a list and this is this is where the military purge came from the patriot purge that they came up with a list of you know hot button issues controversial issues that could be indicators for extremism and some of those and those people were not allowed to participate in this deployment to jan 6 which included pete heggseth himself by the way because of his christian cross tattoo is jerusalem cross and so the gasden flag was one of them the jerusalem cross uh nr like if you liked the page on Facebook. This was a thing. And believe it or not, I reported at the time Turning Point USA. Turning Point USA was on that list, which we later come to find that turning point was put under FBI investigation. And so this is what they use to deny people, again, rank,

to deny orders, to deny that leadership track, all of it. But I don't understand, Jack. I don't get why he's saying that. I mean, why does it matter if our combat troops are fed? I would just love to to put up a picture of General Millie right now to kind of show who the leader of the military was. But they're less likely to be liberal, right? Because there's studies showing people who are fit are more likely to be right wing. That's right. So this is probably a nice little covert wink-wink type of way to be like, okay, we want to make sure that the military is more right-wing. You've got to be in shape in order to do that.

Yeah, John Dolly tweeted you can basically just purge the military of Libthards by enforcing obvious PT standards. Yes. I once went down the rabbit hole on General Millie. And I went down, like, all the public photos and photojournalism that's been released by the Pentagon and all their units. I've never been able to find a single picture of him doing PT. Like, not even one, not just on, not even like a fun run kind of thing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

It does not exist. All the liberals just quit. And by the way, Sonny Hustin, you know, let's be fair. This is not the first time she has been befuddled by something that has gone on in the world. she just lives in a constant state of befuddlement, as she said. I also thought it was very interesting just to kind of respond to the clip that she said, she said, there's no such thing as quotas. And then she goes on to try to enforce quotas by saying,

you fired the African-American Joint Chief of Staff. You fired the woman who was in charge of the Navy. So she just did the exact thing that she claimed didn't exist. But it's also just like, sometimes black people get fired, dude. Like, are you saying that they can never be fired? I don't understand what the point of bring that up is he fired a guy who was black. why did did he do a bad job or what's your point they didn't give statistics either and said this is the portion that was this ethnicity it was just his one number let's make a case out of

this i i think honestly this is a um it really does feel often the culture war is male versus female and you look at the view and they have a very female view this very emotional social view of how the military should be run we should have a diverse rainbow everyone holds hands and gets along and don't be mean. And then the masculine view is you should be chewing on dirt and crawling through razor wire to be the best man you can be an efficient killing machine for war. And one of them is appropriate for war fighters and one of them is not. I'm being told there are 6,000 patriots assembled in Utah right now. And by the way, we should, you know, just to contextualize this, this is the first turning point event that's been held in Utah since Charlie

was murdered in Utah at a turning point event. So this was going to be his second stop. So what we're doing is we're continuing Charlie's tour, but with guest speakers. And I think the vice president came out earlier today and said that he is interested in being one of those speakers. Don Jr. is interested. I mean, the level is just phenomenal.

And rather than, you know, and a lot of people would say, like, why don't you cancel the tour? And I think, and I speak for everybody here in the sense, that we've talked about this, and we know Charlie wouldn't want us to. And so you see the response, you see 6,000 patriots, even in the face of a bomb threat, even knowing that there was a murder just a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago, I think it'll be three weeks tomorrow, that, you know, just, you know, however many miles away in the same state, that they're still willing to do so in the face of terrorism.

So no, actually, your attack failed. It completely failed because more and more people are showing up to turning point, Ben, and turning point is going to be bigger than it had ever been before. Yeah. If the blood of the greatest men in human history running through their veins, you're not going to break these people. It's impossible. Good luck.

It's pretty amazing to see the numbers. What is it like? How many chapter requests popped up after? I mean, honestly, we saw 62,000 was the first number that we got in, but at the same time, I think that was the number by the time of the memorial. But, I mean, the number keeps changing from day to day. I probably have written down, actually, on the other side of the office here. In the room, I mean, someone.

Yeah, no, I think there's a, there's a, the whiteboard on the other side of the room here where they keep her running tally. But it got to the point where they can't even update the whiteboard fast enough because there's so many chapters and requests that are coming. And by the way, these are chapters requests. So not just people. And that number is even higher. It's also the church attendance has skyrocketed. It's the Charlie effect. It's the Charlie revival. It is this idea that, you know, and I've just in my personal life had so many people reaching out to me saying, you know, what do I do?

And I'll give a shout out to Tyler Boyer because he had this great quote when we were at the ASU Vigil. He said, going to church isn't hard. You just go. They don't want you to know this, but you can just walk into a church and sit down and pray.

You can just do this. And they're like, happy to see you. Yeah, they're like, and you're just allowed to do that. CNN will tell you this. It's hidden esoteric knowledge. People like people at church sleep

when people show up. It's great. I mean, and I'll say this too. There's a lot of, I hear a lot of stories from young men where they're like, I don't have any friends. I don't even,

I don't know what to do. I don't know to begin. It's like, you can go to church. You can go for walks, start exercising, and meet people in these communities. I met my wife at a Bible study, believe her or not. That's a secret, because we were talking about this other night where I said, you got these red pill bros that are like, no, you can't get married, man. All these women, they're hoes and blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like, dude, you live in Miami. Not the ones in Bible study. Yeah. That's the right fate. That ripple effect, the Charlie effect. It was before Martin Luther, the Catholic monk that was the Protestant reformer in the 1500s. there was somebody that was being martyed and in the flames right so he was being burnt at the

stake which was common he said these words you cannot kill us for the blood of a martyr is seed and then you see this all like the effect and just the utter horror of people having a realization of what is happening to this country what is the the attack on the innocence of somebody entering in the dialogue somebody that wanted to elevate everyone that he came in contact with and respectfully dialogue with them and then to see that life taken and just like it reminded, it brought up all the feelings of when I first, you know, came to a Christian faith and witnessed Jesus on the cross and that effect that that had on me and how it just propelled me and changed me and what made me want to be better, made me want to do better, made me want

to break free from addiction and break free from pornography addiction, made me want to be better And it did that for me. It transformed my life. That's great. Today is, and congrats, today is actually, I wasn't going to mention this, but since you bring it up to, I haven't had a drink in 20 years as of today. Today is actually, we did the whole thing on my show about it. And, yeah, 20 years just clean living.

And, you know, I never really considered myself like an addict to it. It was just something where I said, I'm done. I'm totally done with this and I was in a bit of a rough spot you know and I said God if you get me out of this I'm never going to go back and he got me out of it so I never went back. Let's go

wow simple as that thanks yeah yeah yeah let's jump to the story we got this from the New York Coast you can do it folks come on bomb shell ice sweep in Minneapolis St. Paul finds 50% of immigrants had committed immigration fraud and of course there is the city of brotherly love

Philadelphia and we call Minneapolis St. Paul the cities of brother sister love it's very true very true there's a whole country like this actually several

there's a region actually don't their cousins usually you know I don't know about that I just know that brothers and sisters

really love each other nearly half of all immigrants What's wrong with loving your brother and sister Tim This is kind of love What do you mean Nearly half of all immigrants In the Minneapolis Stateball Twin Cities

were found to have committed some form of immigration fraud During a recent suite By Immigration Authorities Officers and countered blatant marriage fraud, visa overstay, people claiming to work for work at businesses that can't be found, forged documents, abuse of the H-1B visa system, abuse of the F1 visa, and many other discrepancies.

Officials didn't point to a specific group, but the Twin Cities has seen a massive uptick in Somali refugees and immigrants in recent years, with more than 82,000 from the East African country living in Minnesota. Are they going to deport, Ilhan? That'd be so big. So, lying, so committing immigration fraud is an education fraud as well. is grounds for having your citizenship revoked and being denaturalized. Every naturalized citizen knows this.

They all know it is one of the penalties. And so, yeah, so if you lose your citizenship, then yes, you can be deported. And you have to be deported because you don't have a citizen. A citizenship. Remember, she was a citizen of Somalia. She came over as a war refugee. Her father was on the losing side of a coup there. And she comes to the United States, and there's a lot of documents.

evidence about something very strange going on with a man who, and remember, these stories about, you know, we make the, you know, the jokes about the brother stuff. Those stories originally came from the Somali community in Minnesota. There were, you know, there were blogs and rumors and this all came up and said, well, wait a minute. And, you know, there's different naming conventions. They have tribal naming conventions, which are different than sort of like the Western, you know, first name, last name that we're used to in the U.S. And so people are coming up and saying, wait a minute, this guy doesn't have the same last name. But actually, if you understand the naming convention, he is her brother. And here's this marriage

document. And, you know, again, a lot of these questions, a lot of this needs to get investigated. And here you have the USCIS director saying we found rampant fraud in immigration, specifically marriage fraud. And everyone knows, of course, that, you know, that marriage is, you know, the green card marriage, you know, this is something that's rampant because it is a, it put you on the fast track to citizenship. Let me let me ask you, Jack. What do you think happens in this country if they do denaturalize and deport Ilhan Omar, meaning she is expelled from Congress, citizenship revoked, then sent back to Somalia? What's the left? What's the left reaction? I mean, they're going to freak out. They would be probably on the tarmac trying to stop the plane from taking off. I think,

I think that's the kind of political moment that that could ignite a powder keg. And it could, it absolutely, Absolutely. I mean, we already have powder kegs. I know. They're going off. You know, they asked me, they said, you know, do you think, CNN asked me, do you think we're in a civil war? And I said, well, look what they just did to Charlie. You know, I mean, I do you, I mean, I don't know if you call it a traditional, but asymmetric, fifth generation, you know. Well, so, and that's the challenge because I was reading, I've been, I've been reading a lot about, as I mentioned this before, French Revolution, Spanish Revolution, and Bleeding Kansas. And one argument, I wrote a book about some of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. One argument as to why we're actually in a civil war is fifth generational warfare,

meaning psychological manipulation, resource, depletion, and strategies like that indicate there's a real fight for power. However, in terms of raw violence, it looks very much like bleeding Kansas. Yeah, so this, when we wrote the book on humans where we talked about that, and people would say, you know, this question about, are we in a communist revolution? Is it leading towards a civil war, des civilization scenario? and you know people would push back at us and say well wait we're not seeing things like the french revolution or the spanish civil war the bolshevik revolution taking place and the argument that we we made is that because warfare has changed since those times which were in many cases a hundred years

ago 100 plus years ago that we shouldn't expect it to necessarily look like it did in the past and by the way thank god it doesn't right because these are absolutely horrific but we are seeing a fifth generation wave of a communist revolution, this asymmetric warfare that's gone on. It includes censorship, it includes shunnings. It includes political arrest and absolutely includes political assassinations, like the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And you see direct parallels as well to Bleeding Kansas, as you just mentioned, where it sort of became this free-for-all where there was violence, there was reprisal violence, and that it just spilled over. They killed, they killed reporters. People who were writing either, like, and it was both.

sides you mean like i'm not gonna a nick shirley yeah they they burned down uh newspaper state uh one of the big stories i think one of the big catalysts was this needs to be taken seriously it really does yeah you know what's fascinating is how do you move a river is is the issue and and the flow of culture in this country in the direction that's going is at some point the river bifurcated and as much as there have been people and i'm not talking about myself i'm talking about these these other journalists and writers who have warned we're on path on the path of a civil war. There seems to be no way to resolve it because, I mean, what, Trump's not going to agree to go to prison for no, for no reason, just because they say he should, and they're not going to back down

because they're ideologically driven, and they want Trump in prison. There's, there's, there's no stop. It's an, it's an immovable object and unstoppable force. The Democrats are the unstoppable force. The right is the immovable object. So it seems like no matter what you say, and even if you do take it seriously. The only real way to take something like this seriously is to like, I don't know, bury a shipping container underground and get a generator and then prepare for the worst. Yeah. I mean, that's why the Trump administration with a total crackdown, total destruction of leftism is the last off ramp because it really does feel like this is the last moment to put a lid on this. Yeah. So, so, and this is the problem when you, when you mention, you know, bleeding Kansas,

that violence has the unfortunate, and, and you mentioned as well, you know, violence has, the unfortunate tendency to spiral and begin more violence. It escalates. And this is why you need a government to come in and put it down. Charlie and I did an interview talking about the Bolshevik Revolution. And we just pulled it up and we're pulling up some of the old clips. And he asked me this question. It was so smart. So insightful. He said, Jack, how many communists were there in the early days of the Bolshevik Revolution? I said, probably a couple thousand. and he said, what was the population of the Russian Empire? And I actually got it wrong in the interview, and I'll cop up to that.

I said 50 million. It was actually 100 million at the time. Some studies say even higher. It was also in the middle of a war, so parts of it were disputed. But north of 100 million. And so he was asking the question, how did so few a group of people take over a country that was so large? And I said, because they didn't take it seriously. They didn't take it seriously.

And they kept infiltrating. By the way, it's funny you mention this because what do we talk about today? What was one of the first places that the communists and the Bolsheviks infiltrated in Russia was the military? One of the very first places they did. And they went in under the name of social reform. And they would say these units need to be more diverse. And we need people's units. And so a lot of those original Red Army units were defectors directly from the Imperial Army of Russia.

And they would go in and they'd have one political commissar would flip over an entire unit saying, you know the czar is against russia you have to fight for the people to take down the czar and it eventually got to the point where when it wasn't taken seriously it was just a couple of thousand people these you know quote-unquote little bits of violence and czar nicholas wasn't even the first czar who was assassinated and but he was the last one who was assassinated because they drug him and his wife and children into a basement shot the wife and shot his wife shot him and then bayoneted the children of death yeah they said that um the They said, look, we were just going to remove you from power,

but we can't risk any of your children having a claim to thrones. The people must prevail. So we're going to end your lineage now, killing his children. The protection to me against civil war, you've heard me bring this up. Obviously, I believe it's personal faith, right, in terms of people reclaiming these things. Because what is it historically that has held people in check and given people a true north? One of the people I think that we should look to is Desmond Doss. And he wants to see in the movie, Haxor Ridge.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. So he was a man that he had certain practices. He was a pass-fuss. Yeah. And particularly one of the points here is that he, like Charlie, had an observance of the Sabbath. That if you look at Exodus, it specifically says that when they could keep these holy days, that it was a protection to them. And it actually stopped pestilence and sword.

Actually, destruction was averted if they could keep these holy days. It specifically says that. And the words were, let us offer to God in the wilderness, lest he fall upon us with sword or with pestilence. So he's saying, if we can keep this, then there will not be pestilence. And sword, violence. And if you look at DOS, right, so if you look at conscientious objector was the documentary that the film was based on,

six times a Japanese soldier reports that he had DOS in his crosshair. And every time he would pull the trigger, it would jam. When he would take it off DOS, it would fire. Wow. Now tell me how, on an escarpment where people, People were getting sawn in half with machine gun bullets. It wasn't called Haxor Ridge. It was called an escarpment.

They all called it Haxor Ridge because people's bodies were getting hacksawed in half by machine gun fire. How did Doss get up like a mere cat? He never crawled out of the holes like in the movie. He just popped up like nothing was there and rescued 75 men in one night. He was protected and by God. And he brought like a level of protection to all the soldiers around him. So much so that they went back into the battlefield to find his Bible. and risk their lives.

And another occasion, two groups of about 40 men. He was in one, and he had the ability to pray over them. He kept the Sabbath, and they let him observe that as well, which was amazing. And then both groups come back. Three people come back from one group of 40, his group, three or four. In his group, no one's injured in the same regions. So I'm saying that these personal faith aspects are protection. I don't think it's a coincidence that Charlie had.

book coming out in December. I think that people need to read it and consider it and get close to God during these times because people will espouse Christianity, concept of Christianity without actually letting it embody them and letting it become them and getting close to God and knowing what it's like to walk with God and have that deep faith. And instead they could use it and weaponize it. And that's what I'm encouraging people to step into it. Faith is extremely important and this is why communists hate the faith. And when we look at Poland and it's kind of movement against communism through solidarity. They did it through the church.

The church is the number one enemy against the communists. We also have to remember, communists have killed a tremendous amount of people throughout recorded human history, way more than what we read in the kind of history books. The numbers are just huge through democide. And just understanding that kind of backdrop, I'm always thinking about Yeri Besmanoff,

the former KGB agent, that talked about this psychological, ideological, of subversion that happens in four stages to destabilize societies. I think we're at the last stage of what he particularly described. Is that demoralization? Yeah, yeah, that's, I believe that's the one. And we're reaching a kind of tipping point where we're, the Damascus finally coming off and we're seeing the kind of true reality of the demon that really is behind big government, communism, central control, top down, slavery that wants to take away free human. will. And that's why freedom, that's why capitalism, that's why sovereignty, independence is so

critically important. And the virtues that we need to stand up and fight for, since the opposite of that literally wants to put the boot on your neck. But I think, but I think like the part of the problem is in the short term, like we have to create the conditions that would allow this sort of revival to occur. Because in the short term, we are dealing with people that just want to kill us. So it's like, I totally agree. I'm like, I'm a Christian. I totally agree. We need to reorient the American people towards Christ, but in the short term, we needed to completely destroy these leftists because I don't want to wait on them to like potentially come to Christ. And by the way, you know, Luke, to your point about the demoralization, it wasn't just that it was a leftist who murdered

Charlie Kirk. It was about the leftists who celebrated it. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that this wasn't, yes, you did see like Ilhan Omar and AOC making their comments. You saw Barack Obama go on and smear Charlie even in, you know, the same sentence as saying that he, you know, felt bad about what happened. He still has to smear him. He still has to criticize him. He still has to remind people that Charlie was bad. And, and then who were the people who celebrated, right? All of them? It was, it was your, you know, it was your, your doctor, your nurse, your accountant, your HR department. It was people you work with every single day, people you live with on your street. And they're sitting there going, you know, some

of them are celebrating and then some of them even will say you know it shouldn't have it shouldn't have happened but and that's a huge problem that just shows you the ideological mental capture that's going on in this society where they'll say if you have thoughts thoughts remember charlie kirk never once raised a hand in anger just never did it go find a video you wouldn't and if he had by the way that'd be all they're showing right now he never did that but because his thoughts were considered so bad and so impure and so evil that they will make justifications for his murder the murder of a father the murder of a husband the murder of a Christian the murder of someone again who was completely peaceful and everything that he did and always put God forward they will justify his murder

and if you have a group of people like that in your country and we have a lot of them it's a I do believe it's a minority but it's a significant minority that's a huge problem well yeah and like what you're saying the only thing that's separating it's the fertile ground for everything that we're talking about. Yeah, and the only thing that's separating those nurses and those teachers, et cetera, et cetera, from the shooter is that those people have something to lose. Like, ideologically, we're dealing with the same, this is all the same thing that we're dealing with. But it's just, yeah, they have something to lose, so they're not going to, I mean, I don't know, it's a powder gag. But, yeah, that's why it's so important to completely

root out this ideology because it's all the same. And then, like, Leonardo DiCaprio has a new movie out glorifying left-wing terrorists, left-wing violence in the same week. So what do you do about a generation, two generations that have a large portion of young people with nothing to lose. They have no families. They have no purpose. And so they're gifted their faux, non-theistic religion in wokeness, and they're willing to die for it. Yeah, this is, so this is Mangione. This is, uh, Tyler Robinson. This is, you know, perhaps Thomas Matthew Crooks to an extent. Uh, you know, we, you see a profile starting to emerge of, you know, like Thomas Matthew Crooks, for example, the guy who, uh, you know, shot Trump did hit him, but, you know, missed and didn't

kill him. Um, he had a 1500 SAT, but he was going to community college. Tyler Robinson, someone who also was seen as he had gotten into this, this great program, but then had dropped out and was going to trade school. I believe at Utah State, actually, where he originally had gotten into Utah State where turning point is tonight where this huge event is going on. So you see this profile emerge of these 20-somethings who have tried to achieve something but lost something. And so what we try to talk about when I've delved into this issue is that what the communist typically does, what the Marxist does, is they will take actual, Zora Mondami, he talks about this, or Maggioni himself, but, you know, Ivy League

student, right? So they will, they'll take actual grievances like the health care system in America. And by the way, as a conservative, guys, it's okay to say the health care system in America sucks. It's okay to say that there are huge problems. It's okay to say there are huge housing problems in New York City, by the way, and all over the place in America. We talk about the housing market. You talk about it, Tim, all the time on this program. But as a conservative, or just as someone who understands these types of revolutions when we're dealing with them, you have to enact statewide policies that try to mitigate these problems. And if you don't mitigate these problems, you will get more Maggionis, you will get more victims, you will get, unfortunately,

more Charlie Kirk's. And I hate to say it, because I know what room is. I'm sitting in, you know, but you will get more because this is a historical pattern that goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's why they're having so much difficulty putting together pieces with these shooters and like, you know, it's because they're losers. They haven't left. They haven't left the legacy. Like, they're completely atomized, unfortunately. And so it's like, yeah, that's why these people are scratching the heads. Like, who are these people? Where are they come from? Why don't they, why can't we find anything on them? It's like, because they're totally atomized. Like, obviously you're not going to find much

on these people. Yeah, and I have questions. I mean, I really do have questions about, you know, these tweets that I've seen where it seems like other people had four knowledge. Oh yeah. Totally. Yeah. Questions about photos and just like anyone. I have so many questions. I mean, even more so in this case, because this is a friend of mine. But at the same time, you know, I do this kind of work. But you know, you want to know what went wrong. You want to know what happened. But it really, you know, to take to your point, it just comes back to these same issues over and over and over where people are pushed into more extreme lifestyles. Scott Greer had a great piece in American Conservative about internet-based identities.

And internet-based identities is really something that I've been thinking about the same topic. I didn't have the name for it, but this idea that because the real world has become so disconnected for them, because they disassociate with reality, because they feel disenfranchised from reality, you take more identity from places and things. that you interact with on the internet. And so now, by the way, so they become furries and stuff? Furries, and this guy was doing into furry porn,

including furry what they call child pornography or cub porn in the furry parlance, which is a term that I had to learn recently. And now that's not just, now all of that is to say it isn't because of the internet or because of video games or because of memes.

That's not what drives leftism. The Bolsheviks were not on the internet or playing video games. And it's such a cop-out when I hear, particularly it's a lot of boomers. I've got to say it. We'll say, oh, it's the discords and the Vigiegames and the internets. No, the Bolsheviks did not have the internet. It's because of these forces that cause people to feel disassociated and disenfranchised with reality.

We are going to go to your superchats and Rumble rant. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone, you know. And we're not doing the uncensored extended portion of the show throughout this week for logistical reasons. So I apologize. But you can still join our Discord server at Timcast.com to be a part of that. community. And there's people hanging out. There's tens of thousands of people. They want to be friends with you. They're partying and they're saying, why aren't you hanging out? Well, let's grab some of your Rumble rants. We'll start with Skyline. He says, after Chattanooga, Tennessee attack, DOD recommended

U.S. military give carry permits to troops other than MP. General Millie stopped that and kept most military places gun-free, easy to kill zones. Yeah, and Major Hassan as well down in Fort Hood. Another, I think that was even before Chattanooga. I want to say, Fattanooga was like 2011, and Fort Hood was 2009, something like that. I could be off on my dates. But, you know, we had a series of events on military installations, and people would say, why don't the military have the ability to respond? And it was because they were unarmed.

All right. Let's see what else we got. It's hard to do this on my phone. Oh, you're literally pulling up on your phone. Yeah, literally. That's amazing. Here we go. All right.

What is this? Lazz Cyrus. says, water takes the easiest way, least resistance possible. We direct the river with solid footings below the water flow. Charlie made me grow those roots. That's great. And to my point about how do you move a river, right? Our culture seems to be this massive flow.

How do we change it? Fair point. It's actually pretty crazy to see the growth of Turning Point USA, how massive it has become, and even more so now. and that is like a great giant oak planted and it's going to change the flow of that water. Or you could even say, you know, obviously, you know, you could say a dam, but if you can't dam the river, how do you divert a river?

A bigger river. You know what I think is pretty crazy. And that could be a turning point. Is with all the crazy conspiracy theories that have come out in the past couple of weeks, did you ever think Jack? And I don't mean to be crass in this regard, but, you know, 10 years ago with all of these stories

that were popping up in media about say the Clintons and these these theories you're on acts we're on acts we're talking about it it was something over there now with the work that you're doing with the work charlie was doing this is the there and everyone's looking at you and they have weird theories about what's going on it's it's kind of a it's kind of weird yeah i mean i i hear you this is the case where i've had more access to you know in terms of stories right i've had more access to this story than anything I've ever looked at in my life. I've spoken to more eyewitnesses on this than I've spoken to anything and certainly within a closure time frame to the actual events. I mean, I was talking to people who were at the event when we didn't even know if, you know,

if we knew that when we just knew that there was a gunshot, but we didn't know exactly what had happened in Charlie. So, you know, being able to talk to people on a direct basis like that, it's, it's weird because, you know, I'm of a mind where, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's how I process things, I guess, where, you know, sometimes, you know, people, people deal with grief differently. And, you know, for me, it's like getting analytical is, it helps me to try to understand and dig through and go to, I believe I've gone down every rabbit hole I could find on this thing. And, you know, it's, it still doesn't, it doesn't make it any better. It doesn't, you know, and it's at the end of those rabbit holes, you know, Charlie never comes back.

I just, you know, I, I mean that. But I, I hear you. I hear you. You know, it was, it was crazy. when I'm I guess what I mean to say is everything was always over there it was people I didn't it was people I had heard of or or I met but it was not people that I knew and now I guess you know turning point had become so important Charlie had become so prominent and so important that he became the there he became yeah the top of the mountain in the political space well they couldn't get they couldn't get Trump so they started they said okay who were the you know who are the top lieutenants right who are the top field generals who are the top people that we can go after and at the end of the day you know charlie didn't have a secret

service element he didn't have you know that level of security which by the way there's incredible security tonight at that arena and i'm so glad they're there but charlie didn't have that he didn't have the funds for that the capacity to to do all this and there's there's some other stuff that's going to come out about that i'm sure at the trial and i'm not going to get ahead of any of that but it's it's it's it's crazy man it's it's it's completely crazy and you know I will say this though you know so we did that memorial a week ago and you know I went up there I gave a speech and eulogy whatever you want to call it and people keep asking me oh we know what was it like what was it like the biggest crowd and you know so many people out

on stage and and you know watching on at home and I just I just say it was horrible yeah every second of it was horrible. It was one of the worst days and worst things I've ever had to do. I mean, I don't care. I would give up all of this to just have my friend back. I mean, I don't, I want to do any second of this. I'm sorry, Jack VLS. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, truly. And it's just like, you know, people say, oh, wow, what an event? And it's like, no, man, no. And maybe they want to say that to just what a guy, right? Yeah, I don't think they mean it in a bad way, but I know what you mean.

You want to give me that? Yeah, I do. I do. You got some red lights there, so I'll say this. And I was just going to say, like, when we're chatting before, like, the medical arena, we've had so many strange and mysterious things happen, right? And there's so much attack on medical doctors and experts that are getting out things that are not mainstream and the sudden missing things and close personal friends.

of mine over the years over the past decade for me and gone right and it's just horrible and so you know just this whole thing of like just sometimes it's the best among us often that they're just cut away too short dr rachid wuttah was a dear friend and mentor um you know dr nicholas gonzalez you know these these are these are cases that people need to know about yes but i do have a gift for you thank you yeah yeah what is this gigantic thing you don't know what this is tim come on I know what it is, but he kind of knows. Yeah. So, yeah, so this is a gift for you, Tim, and something good for the family.

This is none other than red light therapy. So there is your red light therapy device. Look at that. Okay, so it'll go on a stand, right, so you could put it over you. Wow, man. How much of this thing? Whoa. It's not hot.

No. I mean, you range from a few hundred dollars. And you're like, what do you do? Well, I'm feeling my cells. My moly goes down. My moly goes into it. You tan your beehole. Whoa.

Yeah, exactly. You got warm me, man. Yeah, I know. Sorry, just blasting it into your eyes. So people are using red light therapy. Actually, no, it doesn't feel bad on my eyes at all. Oh, that's good. People are using red light therapy for, actually, funny, you mentioned eyes.

UCL University to study where they just had people open their eyes for three minutes in the morning. When they looked into the light, they tested their eyesight immediately. 17% improvement in eyesight immediately. There's a study done on 6,400 children, 41 clinical studies with 6,400 children. It was the number one thing that improved eyesight and stopped eyesight decline. When they woke up? Oh, I mean, on the first one, yes, when they woke up. I wonder if there's a correlation between that and dawn.

You're waking up and you're seeing the red light. It's replicating the morning sunrise. The same researchers then tested the subjects in the afternoon. If they did that, they didn't get the same benefit. They didn't get a steep rise. There's studied on thyroid, enlarged thyroid, so with Hashimoto's. It was a 12-month study. They also used selenium and vitamin D.

96% of the women had their thyroid go back to normal size. Can it cure baldness? Yes, it can. I was joking. Yes, hair follicle stimulation, so it's stimulating the stem cells and the hair follicles. There's one study showing about 75% of the men had a significant. dramatic result with their hair. Wow, I was kidding.

It's a scar tissue as well, right? Yes, absolutely. Which then can even relate. There was a Tel Aviv University study on heart muscle scarring, 80% reduction in heart muscle scarring. Wow. They combined stem cells in that study. You know, I didn't believe any of this stuff until I had a kid because we did blue

light therapy, which is a normal thing they do in maternity awards for babies. The blue light breaks down, what is it, breaks down the bill of Rubin or whatever. And then I was like, what the light does that? and they're like, yeah, the light does that. I'm like, well, so that, like, tanning your balls works. And I guess, I guess. You just don't want to overheat them. You don't want to make sure that they're, they're too much in.

Right on, man. And that's why we use the blue in there as well, because it corrects the circadian rhythm and works for neonatal care. And there's nine different wavelengths of light there. So you see how you're seeing the different shades. Yeah. So when breast cancer was tested, they tested four different wavelengths against it, triple negative and non-triple-negative breast cancer. Six-60 nanometer penetration out of the four wavelengths was the only one that dropped the proliferation by 40% which means that it actually in 24 hours in an

in vitro study with human cell lines yeah so this is that which is often with cancer it's called photodynamic therapy and people are using it there was a lancid oncology study that showed if they used red line they had a 400% increase in their ability to put prostate cancer in remission that was with 413 people wow right on it's saving lives cool yeah well I appreciate it man yeah you're welcome and it turns off automatically so yeah it does after 30 minutes And for people that are trying to recover from long COVID and things like that, there was a study from the European Society of Medicine. 62 people after four sessions.

Yeah, the cameras. Yeah, it's killing the cameras. Well, I guess the camera. I don't know, the lights got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I appreciate it. We'll grab some more superchats, but it's called Red Life.

Awesome, yeah. Yes, redlife. And it's Redlightnow.com. Oh, right on. Redlight now.com. And we've got some discounts. Well, I appreciate it, man. I do.

We'll have to ship it. but let's grab some more of these. Yeah, awesome. Let's see what we got here. Keith McHale says, the funny part that everyone misses with Omar and her brother is the brother is gay.

The father thought that Minnesota was less gay, and that is why he sent the son there for the fake marriage. Is that what happened? Okay. All right. Ksom says, the census counts visa holders,

visa holders 55 million. U.S. citizens 340 million, U.S. population 355. Where are the visa holders in the count. Is that 55? Is that what you're saying? I don't know. Jay Fahn says, I live in L.A. and have had multiple door-dash deliveries by no name given. Each time was someone different. California is falling apart. And if Newsom becomes president, I fear for the rest of the United States, don't we all? Yeah. It was a New York City. I remember as a joke when I

lived in Manhattan because there's one guy named Emmanuel and he did like 11,000 deliveries in a month. Because it's just like 30 people using the same account. It's totally absurd. like the amount of fraud that's going on. And it's these food delivery apps are propping up a lot of a lot of this. Because, yeah, you can just share the same account. It's crazy. All right. Mark Connolly says,

I worked as a maintenance contractor for an Army base for nine years. During 2013 shutdown, I was out of work for two weeks with no pay. Government employees got back pay. Contractors do not. Interesting. That's a bummer. Three star perfect deer says the 100,000 workers should be replaced with illegals. No.

I get the attempt at the insult to the federal workforce, but not a good idea. Well, did you guys see this ADL thing? Which one? That TPSA was on it? The TPSA is off of it. Oh, really? And that the ADL just released this statement, I'm literally just seeing this now, that they're kind of like defending the glossary and a bunch of stuff is down with over 1,000 entries written over many years.

The glossary is served as high level. At the same time, a number of entries in the glossary were outdated. And so now it looks like they've taken a lot of the ADL glossary offline after, again, Elon Musk and so many other people are pointing out that they were attacking Turning Point USA. And it's been this huge, you know, sort of online narrative right now. And there's, by the way, there's still the page up on Turning Point, which also attacks Charlie, even in death. And you can still find that if you just start. turning point in Google and ADL, but the actual page itself doesn't link to it. And so they're on the ropes. They're totally on the ropes. They were just celebrating how Alex Jones got

deep platformed again from YouTube. And why would you celebrate that? I mean, the ADL is pretty much the guy running it. He's pretty much running a lot of the same Barack Obama policies that divided this nation. All right, Bam says, Christ is the off ramp, maybe the only one. He's the ultimate de-radicalizing force. Study the Bible, live the gospel. save the country and yourself. So true. So I have a question for you, Jack, because we had a priest on,

and we discussed exorcisms in the United States and the need for them. And I asked him, what do you think would happen if you tried to exercise a leftist by force? What do you mean?

Like tied him down? Am I for it? No, no, no. Just like, what would happen if it was like, there's a bunch of leftist protesting? And there's like a line, so there's no fighting.

And you walked up, like a priest walked up and started trying to bless them and exercise demons, how would they respond? They might attack him. As if they were demons being exercised. And what would happen if there was a Christian conservative and the praise worked up to him and started blessing them and...

Probably say thank you. Exactly. I'm like, isn't that kind of funny? Because even if you don't believe in this stuff, the leftist would actually act like they were demons being exercised. When we did the, do you remember the L.A. Dodgers thing with the sisters of perpetual indulgence? They had like the trans sisters.

So we did this huge Catholic. Catholic Rosary March with like thousands of people in downtown LA outside of the Dodgers Stadium and Bishop Strickland came and so a lot of us were worried about potential violence or you know counterprose whatever you know something it's LA right yeah and we had Bishop Strickland come and he prayed for the entire march a prayer of protection and he prayed that the entire march would be protected that there would be no violence and and you know what it's like when you go to one of these things. You always get like a platoon of Antifa or some of these types who get up and start causing trouble. And we did have them out there, but this was so interesting. They never

crossed the street to our side. That's weird. After Bishop Strickland did that. I have never seen that before. Well, what the father told us is that one of the ways you test for a possession is that you hold something sacred. Cerementals. Yeah. And they won't want to go near you. Right. Yeah. So they, they, you know, in demonology, they, they hate sacramentals. So it's, it's not like, it's not like they'll, you know, they'll run away if you hold up a crucifix, like, like in a vampire movie or something. But it's, it just, it's, to your point, it inspires this hatred and this anger. Yeah. My, my granddad was an evangelist, a pastor, and he died when I was one.

My grandma, when I was 19, I was asking her lots of spiritual questions. She said, there's a tape in the attic. I'd literally pull out this tape, and it's the recording of what, you know, you know, a deliverance or exorcism, one woman has 30 different personalities, and they're not just personalities, their voice sounds like Gollum. It was so scary. I was scared of the doctor for another year and they can speak in languages that they'd never heard before. They did speak in tongues on there and then they interpreted it saying that they were blaspheming God. They talked about crucifying Jesus. They talked about Eve taking the fruit. It was the most eerie thing I'd ever

heard and it sent it. I've seen it in real life. It's getting me. Yeah, you've seen it. in real life it's the demons are real yeah this is a spiritual war more than a lot of people understand it to be and i don't even want to get into what yeah it woke me i'm just saying people are like poso why do you carry the rosary everywhere with you and had it on stage and it's a spiritual war it's the same reason that we have holy water in our house we have icons up i have a crucifix in every bedroom the same way my parents had crucifix in every bedroom we were, I actually, I used Holy Water to bless our cars even, you know, when we get like a new car, you bless it, you know.

Is it offensive to have weapons blessed? No. So if you have like a rifle at home or... Tim, let's just say this wouldn't be the first time that, uh, that weapons had been blessed. Yeah, I know, but like there are certain circumstances where you understand why you would want weapons being blessed, but as long as you're using it, right, as long as you're using it for defense and as long as you're not using it in, in a, you know, in an offensive type

of capability. If you're using it to defend yourself, your family, then of course. Yeah. And I've seen, there was one case where I helped somebody get delivered from a demonic possession, but intercessory prayer is the thing. So let's say somebody doesn't want something, and they want to do the wrong thing. You pray on behalf of them, basically committing them to God saying, this person belongs to God, and I commit them to you on behalf of them. So it's intercessary. So even though they don't want it. And it takes a lot of love and forgiveness, but it's the way to me. It's pretty crazy. I think there's, a lot of, I'm not saying this to try and insult atheists or anything like that. You don't have

to believe what I believe, but I do think there's a lot of ego in atheism in this idea that there is no God, we are just wet robots in an indifferent universe. That's asserting yourself to a very high degree in terms of your purpose and your intellect. Yeah. I've always said, you know, a great place to start on this. And, you know, the more like doctrine, you know, purists will probably get mad at me for saying this, but the Conjuring movie series, you know, if you're someone who's just like, I have no idea how any of this stuff works, but I'm kind of, I'm kind of a little bit interested, you know, that's based on two people who lived in real life and encountered the demonic and encountered the occult

and where even Ed Warren was actually recognized by the Vatican as a demonologist. And so you watch those films, yeah, it's Hollywood, of course, but they get a lot right. I'm just saying they get a lot right. It's strange to me that there are so many stories from people that defy logic or known science. And skeptics will say no to these stories instead of simply saying it's something we don't understand yet. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing to always remember if you're ever in these situations is simply the name of Jesus. Absolutely. And the life and the death and the resurrection of Jesus. I teach my kids this. I teach my kids this exactly just remember the name of Christ you know and like we we pray at home in

English and in Latin but at the end of the day it's just if you just say the name of Jesus because this is this is clear and and there are you know the demons must obey Christ as well because because even a demon knows that Christ is the Christ yeah there's a lot of people who talk about being attacked by demons and then they say you know Jesus Christ's name and then demons go away. And there's so many different accounts like that. It's, it's wild. It's not coordinated. I believe it's absolutely real. Because it's legal. You're claiming authority. And so that entity that's trying to gain possession, trying to own you, but you don't belong to that demon, it's usurping, it's taking something that doesn't belong to them. So you claim yourself as being

from, of Jesus, of God. I belong to God. Jesus is my savior. So for Catholics, for example, not just Catholics, but this is why we baptize babies. So a baptism, actually is a form of exorcism in the sense that you're exercising the original sin, but you're also marking that soul for God. And so the idea being then that, and it's obviously not through their own volition, but it's through that of their parents, and then the godparents, and then eventually there's a series of sacraments to, you know, to get you fully involved in the church as you age. But the idea being that you, and, you know, I'm sure, you know, there's lots of protestant arguments against it and and and i i i totally am down i've had those arguments

all the time but i'm just saying the way we look at it is this is a way of marking that child for god and that is what's in your high dedication is is is big yeah so we we do have a bunch of these superchats which i i figure i have to ask because a lot of people are asking um bb well that's the name they chose says what is his opinion on kandis owen's investing investigating Charlie's death. Do you think she's farming, farming for content, or is she doing the right thing? Another said, do you think that Candace owns is spiraling in a baseless conspiracies, but are very far-fetched in regard to Charlie's murder? Man, I don't know. I don't want, you know, a lot of people have asked. I don't know if you have anything to say on the matter. Yeah, I mean, I've kept up with it as much as I can. I've seen things here or there. Look, I think people are reaching out to her with information. People are reaching

out to us with information, and I think she's asking questions, and I think that's what she's always done. Look, Candace is my friend. I've always been friends with Candice. Candice always had my back. You know, I've always had her back. And, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, people will say, oh, well, you know, is she pushing things in this direction or that direction? And I don't necessarily think it's her pushing. I think it's her searching. Like, that's cool. Yeah, I think the, like when people say farming for content, I'm like, I don't know her that well I kind of think she believes

what she believes you know what I mean? I don't think Candace is going to go on you know in front of a camera and say something that she doesn't believe yeah I just don't think that is and by the way and in what I've seen

she's always said you know somebody reached out to me with this piece of information this is something that I have I have questions about this I have questions too there are a lot of people one thing I don't appreciate

Take that for what it means. I'm not trying to be addicted to anybody. He's claiming that... I talked with Andrew Colby the other day that he or Eric aren't grieving properly. This is like the new conspiracy. Oh, look at her. She's laughing on a show

or she's smiling and I'm just like, yeah, there's a whole organization and tons of people who are doing the exact same thing working every day who knew and loved Charlie. I mean, I don't know what the general expectation is among these people who believe this. Like, you give up on life. You just go into a cave and never come back out

Or do you persevere? I mean, I'll just say, you know, I've seen them both on camera and off. And, you know, if you really think that these people aren't grieving the loss of someone that was that close to them or that Erica is not grieving, then you just, you know, it's just you have no idea. You have no idea what's going on. And the fact that she's even able to do that and be on. And by the way, like, you know, I'm the same way. right you know i've been on camera since this happened and yeah i've shed tears and there was a moment

i was over abandons when we did war room and like right after we got the news and i got through the show i was very upset i was angry right i was in that anger phase and after the show ended i just i broke down and i was just sobbing and i just couldn't believe this happened no i didn't time it so that it happened on camera but it still happened i mean grief is like that grief is a roller coaster it's weird and sometimes i'll just hear a song and it we're we're a church on on uh this weekend and they played uh they played on eagles wings and they played be not afraid and i just couldn't hold it together just could totally couldn't hold it together wow all right we got uh millennial mama says luke last night the rfk junior one is hilarious

Maybe awesome shirts is how we'll identify ourselves in the Civil War. PSF ancestry from Upper Celestia. Well, it's a great way to meet like-minded people. Like when I wear the shirt, I always meet cool Slavic people. And it's a great way, especially if you're introverted, to do your lazy form of activism, but to let people know where you stand. But also, more importantly, make people laugh. I feel like we're under very heavy, dark times right now, and I think we need to laugh.

And I got a lot of ridiculous shirts. You're going to see them tomorrow. I might have to put black tape on them because some of them are too spicy. But I think right now, in the face of everything that's happening, we have to speak out more than ever. So thank you so much for purchasing the shirts. It means a lot to me. Acoustic theory says, remember, communism wins when more people agree and join their cause. Communism loses when people turn away and say, no, thanks.

Communism is subversive, and the only protection is inoculation. Ian talked about this on the show about how he has to provide information inoculation to his parents. Because they're like default libs. He'll see a story and he'll go. Oh, the media's going to lie about this. I better call my parents, and he'll immediately call them and say, hey, here's what happened. Because then they're going to turn on MSNBC or CNN and be given the lies.

So he's like, I've got to give them the information first to inoculate them from the lie that will come from the press later. I mean, look, they say communism wins. Communism wins when it's not stopped. It's really as simple as that. It's that good people have to come together and say, we can't go down this road. And you need the Christians, you need the revival. And I said that in my speech. I really meant that. I think if Charlie's sacrifice is to mean anything, that a hundred years from now, whatever it is, when it looked like Western civilization was on the brink when we were going through the fourth turning, that Charlie's sacrifice gave us the ability to fight back and save Western civilization in the only way possible by returning the people to God. The only way. It's the only way. to be that firm bulwark, that dam in the river, to say, no, no, we are not going to keep going down this direction.

We are going to go back to who we are. Right on. Well, everybody, that about us it for tonight. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Join our Discord server at Timcast.com. Click join us. There's tens of thousands of people there.

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Jack, you go ahead. By the way, I'm just going to throw that out that. In fact, I can say on here that the post-millennial is reporting now, it's not just those, because I was going through the gloss. of the ADL earlier, and I was trying to figure out why are the links not working. The ADL has completely retired the entire glossary of extremism effective immediately. So the organization that was supposed to be tracking and the experts that work with the FBI and local law enforcement and all these other agencies all around the country has just admitted that their most important glossary and documentary piece was wrong and had to delete the entire thing. And

it just goes to show you what smear merchants these guys are and i and i wish this never happened i wish that hadn't gotten this far and taken the death of charlie kirk to be able to push this over the edge um honestly i don't think this is a redeemable organization just given what they've done and you know okay you took it down but it you know great like can you please show me the department where i can get my friend back where eric can get her husband back where those kids can get their dad back it's no i don't think that department exists they ran cover for antifa they said Antifa is just the normal organization. They're not viable.

Oh, yeah. T.P.USA. A couple of bad eggs. Extremist hate group. A couple of jokers in there. But no, but it's turning point. That's the worry. So, you know, shout out to anyone.

Shout out to turning point USA. Shout out to join a turning point chapter. And if you can't find one, start one. You just became the head of your turning point chapter. So it's TPSA.com. TP.A.com. By the way, a huge shout out to the Patriots of New Jersey. I think.

I think we can win New Jersey I think we can flip New Jersey and if we're going to do it we might as well do it for Charlie Dirty Jersey where can people find you at Jack Kosovic Thank you so much Jack Appreciate you appreciate all of you guys

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