Timcast IRL - Brandon Buckingham Uncensored: Getting Shot By Gangbangers In Chicago

Episode Date: October 27, 2024

Tim & Co join Brandon Buckingham for a spicy bonus segment usually only available on Timcast.com. Brandon Buckingham is a YouTuber and content creator known for his satirical and edgy videos, where he often critiques internet culture, social issues, and public figures. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I've got a block on it so you can't rebroadcast. I've actually had a few. One of them is I, as Attorney General of California We don't need to listen to this awful, awful woman. Apparently,

the word going around is that the town hall is abysmal and she's just floundering. And I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about tomorrow morning. But while we're here, I definitely want to talk to Brandon about a lot of the stuff that he's seen. But I think it might get too spicy. Start talking about people getting shot and shit like that. So tell the story of this shooting. Well, there's really not that much to it. I was in Chicago covering this group of rappers that called themselves the Bloodhounds or the Bloodhound Gang. And we were at a record studio. It was like three in the morning. We step

outside, close the door. It locks locks behind us as soon as I look over across the street I just see six people look like they're pointing at us and then it's just like fireworks my face like hit the ground so my cameraman dropped to the ground the other four people ran to the left I sprinted to the right and I hit him a little nook and then I heard them drive off and then heard everyone start screaming so and then I went over there and my camera guy was like next covered in blood and everyone was just like bleeding and yeah they all just but he's all right right now yeah he's all right he's in good spirits I you know paid for all his medical bills but on the hospital no he's out

oh when was this uh man I don't even time's flying I mean two weeks ago nine days ago ten days ago yeah two weeks ago I got him a four-wheeler. Gave him a big bonus. He's a warrior. I really appreciate him going through that. But this is the drill rappers, right? Yeah, I wanted to bring that up on the, I wanted to pick your guys' brain about what you guys think about drill rap and just that whole

community. I don't even know what that is. Well, it's like, you know, back in the 90s, there were all these gangs, of course, that were making money in various ways. And then since 2010 and the onset of Chief Keef and the Chicago drill wave, people have incorporated the gang violence into the music. So they're literally rapping about real-life crimes that have happened. And in recent days, it's like this back-and-forth drill rap dissing where it's like, I shoot you in your head, and then I brag about it in a rap song. And then you come and kill someone that I love, and then you brag about it in a rap song and then you come and kill someone that I love and then you brag about in a rap song it's just this back and forth cycle yeah so I've been doing some videos where I will go into these people's hoods

and walk around with them and just kind of get a perspective of what their life where where in Chicago were you uh 79th and or no that's I wasn't there uh I don't know that's a great question you know the record store you were at? I should. It's all a bit of a blur. It was pretty crazy. You like drove there? They just drove you there?

Is that what it was or what? Yeah, they just drove us to the record studio. And it was late at night. And then obviously, like, just with the shooting and the blood and everything, it was, you know, just a bit traumatic. So my memory is a bit like, ooh. Yeah, I remember Vice did this series where they went and documented a bunch of these gangbangers, and I was talking to the dude who did it, and I was like, be careful if you go back to Chicago. And he's like, why?

And I was like, did you not talk to these gangbangers you interviewed? And he's like, yeah, it's fine. And I was like, okay, dude, the other gangs are all going to kill you, okay? Yeah, I've kind of got this resounding notion from a lot of these gangs, because I'll ask them stuff like, when do you think the gang violence will end? And they all seem to have the same message, and it's like, when the other side, all of them are dead. Yeah. Which is crazy.

And it's been that way for generations. Yeah, it's pretty wild. It's like tribal warfare on a smaller scale. Yeah, it'll never stop. So, yeah, that's why the internet hasn't heard from me for a while. But I went back out the next weekend and filmed in the hood. Do you have that video? Are you going to put something up or what?

Yeah, I have that video. I want to wait for some of the stuff to die down. I don't know. I just didn't want to jump on it and capitalize on it. I have the full video. I have some footage. My camera guy, after he got shot, actually picked up the camera and recorded a little bit. Like, I think the full video. I have some footage. My camera guy, after he got shot, actually picked up the camera and recorded a little bit.

Like, I think I got hit. Holy shit. Yeah, it was pretty wild. But yeah, and then I'm in a tricky situation because it's like, I can't work with the police because if I work with the police, then I'm a snitch and it creates this whole other issue of me. You know, I can't go into those communities.

You can't go anywhere in Chicago, dude. i denied working with the police right uh as did my camera guy but the people that shot us they bragged about it on social media right after and still no arrests were made which i thought they don't care that's pretty crazy though right well i mean if you don't go to the cops they're gonna say fuck you yeah they're like the the mentality of the cops is you sided with the gangs because we didn't yeah give a fuck you yeah they're like the the mentality of the cops is you sided with the gangs because we didn't yeah give a statement you're you're like their mentality is you're on the side of the gangs there's two gangs that are fighting and they're like don't go to the cops you said okay the cops are like you could join our gang you join their gang you chose their gang we're gonna fuck with you yeah tough predicament for me because they're allowing me into their

community so i feel like i kind of have to play by their rules certainly if you came to my house and you shot my camera guy my neck on my my property, I'm going to call the police. But, you know, in this community— How do you think the cops feel? Stitching is worse for death. Oh, I feel— Cops are like, this is our community, and you're working with the guys who are plaguing us. And now when shit goes down and we can put some away, you say no.

So the cops are going to be like, fuck yourself, dude. I wish they would just check Reddit. I'm dead serious. The only reason I know the shooters is because of Reddit. But what I'm saying is like, there's not two factions. There's three. The Chicago police departments have gang maps and all this territory. So imagine you own a house, whether it's your house or otherwise, I don't give a fuck.

You are in control of the house. And then you've got one guy up in one room who keeps shitting all over the floor. Another guy in another room who keeps banging pots and pans. And they're fighting with each other. And then you're like, we want to catch him in the act so I can evict him. Because I can't just evict him. And then someone comes over to hang out. Gets punched in the face.

And then you're like, dude, tell me if they punch you in the face so I can get these fuckers out of my house. You go, fuck no. I'm not getting involved. They're going to be like, okay, well, I'm not helping you. I'm sure they got everything on Reddit. And they're like we know exactly what happened but they're not going to stick their neck out for someone who's sided with the like in their mind sided with the gangs yeah i think the reality is you don't want to join a gang war by siding with the cops against two gangs who then want to kill you you know what i mean yeah and you know i'm playing by their rules when i go into their community i can't just just go into their community, get shot at, and then run to the police and snitch.

Cause then I'm never going to be allowed back into their community. And it's, I just feel like it's wrong. It's wrong. I mean, are you going to go back? Yeah, for sure. What did you get shot at again? I mean, what if I got blown up in South Lebanon? Yeah. But you know, I kind of get going into war zones and doing that kind of stuff. There's more value to it. I mean, yes, but there's also like when you're doing gangland stuff, you're not in that gang's territory. There's no legitimate territory or boundary. They might say we'll kill anybody who crosses this line, but there's no legitimate boundary.

If you're in Lebanon and you're like, this is the area, this city is controlled by this faction. Then it's like, OK, you can walk around. The war is not happening there. But you could you could go to a totally different neighbor in Chicago. You go to Lincoln Park and they're going to be like, yo, homies up in Lincoln Park and they're going to come kill you. See, if you're in not every conflict zone, but in many, there's going to be military checkpoints because of the conflict. And then you're going to it's going to be like Damascus is controlled by Bashar al-Assad's governmental forces. They've set up boundaries along this. Explosions and shooting are happening five miles north of this line. If you're in Damascus, you're partying in a nightclub.

So you can go to the front line film and know that you're behind the line, what the precautions are and how you can cover yourself. And then you're like, well, I can't go there. I'll get shot at. In Chicago, you have a bunch of random gangs all over the place, asserting randomly at certain times what is theirs and what isn't. So it's like, that's why I always say don't fuck with the gangs. Once you get in, you don't get out. Yeah, it's very chaotic. Depends on the gangs too, because some gangs are just stoners and they don't do shit. Yeah, that's definitely true. But Chicago and Philly right now is very, very dangerous. I went into South Lebanon. I went into Yeroun, which is, I don't know.

Do you know much about the South Lebanon-Israel thing? Yeroun is pretty much the epicenter of the ground warfare that's going on between Israel and Lebanon. And I went into that city that's been totally demolished and everyone's fled. I wanted to go to that city specifically because a Lebanese journalist was targeted and killed in Yaron for doing journalism. By Israel? By Israel, confirmed. And then another young lady with a second attack

45 seconds later had her legs blown off. Oh, I think I remember that. That was a while ago, right? Yeah, so I wanted to go to that exact area to be like, so I could kind of tell the story. Wow. But it's pretty scary stuff. So how often do you go out and do these kinds of stories?

I'm at least filming twice a week, if not more. I mean, there's some weeks where I, especially with the baby coming, where I've gotten like, you know, five videos in a week. Or like three videos a week, but we filmed every day. Some of my videos are like five days of filming. You know what I mean? But I'm definitely dropping the ball on uploading. I need to upload more. I need to have more active. Dave Smith just said he's voting for Trump.

Yeah, he put up a post about it. On X? The same night that I said it. Wait, he posted on X? Yeah, well, I think he did a part of the problem where he talked about it and put it up on YouTube. On YouTube? Yeah.

He's posting about Lebanon. Oh, yeah. He's on the pulse, dude. He's great. Well, I don't know where that video is, but whatever. Yeah, anyway, so what's next for you then? Are you going to go back out sometime soon? I mean, you've got a baby on the way, so you don't want to get blown up, do you?

Yeah, no, I'm about to be on a six month hiatus of traveling and filming. So, uh, I'm going to be in Arkansas this weekend. I'm going to be in Detroit the next weekend. And then everything from then on out should be local. What if you've got a class A, you know, like a tour bus, basically, you can get a real good one for a hundred thousand dollars, which means you put, I don't know, 20,000 down and then you're spending a couple grand a month, and then you can bring the family on these trips that aren't contentious, so you can go to cover hurricane stuff and do stories that aren't going to kill you, but you can have your family with you. Yeah, that'd be cool. I bought a motorhome.

There you go. All right, boom. You're beating me to it. How big is it? It's 31 foot, but it's just so expensive to drive. Six miles to the gallon. You're right. You're driving your house. I have to stay in that location for a week for it to be cost efficient. 31 feet. Is that a Class A?

Is that a bus? C, I think. It's a Class C. It's like a U-Haul. Totally tripping. But yeah, I think 31C. Class C? I don't know.

Or it's a 4-winds Thor. 2,000 4-winds Thor, 31C. Class C? I don't know. Or it's a 4 wins Thor, 2000 4 wins Thor, 31C. I don't know what it is. 31C? Yeah, 4 wins Thor, 2000. Yeah, it's a Class C. Yeah, that's good. I was thinking about getting an A or a C.

Cs are easier because you can park them. Yeah, I think we're... This is a good one. This is a big one. I think we're in a relatively similar position in life with the child coming up and figuring out how to shift the work and the family around. Because the way things are right now

for me, if I moved how I've been moving the past five years, I'd be a horrible father. I'd be so absent. It's that too, but it's also how do you even have time to start a family if you're sporadically all over the place working all the time? And so, you know, for us, it's been, if I wake up and do the show, then I exercise, eat food, and then do the show again. When is their family time at all? There has to be a point where it's

like, okay, we're, we're, we're slowing things down. So I started taking weekends off a few years ago, but then, uh, it's still just like, where's the time coming from to actually begin preparation for having a family? My dad would do two days at work and I'd see him one day and then he'd be gone for two days. And then I'd see him one day for 24 hours all day. You might want to try that tactic, Tim. Take one day off and then work two days nonstop and then take one day completely off where all it is is family you get all because then the kid learns to be away from you and learns to love you for who you are when you're there i don't know i think we'll figure it out you know your dad was a fireman

too so you kind of had a similar thing but my dad had two jobs so he'd be on one off or one on two it's one on two off but he'd work a second job my dad was 24 hour shift yeah yeah you got to sleep there and we could go in and see him like you can still come visit dad while he's at work but he'd work a second job my dad was 24 hour shift yeah yeah you got to sleep there and we could go in and see him like you can still come visit dad while he's at work but he's working that day so it's like we know or maybe we're gonna see him on a work day and it was really it was nice to not see your dad and to see your dad michael malice wants to do stand-up i think he should who does michael malice yeah he definitely should so where's this video of dave smith saying he's voting trump because i'm in the uh i put it on the Slack direct message to you.

Did he tweet it out or something? No, I just went to his YouTube page. Holy shit. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. We got that son of a bitch. Dave, you son of a bitch. The paper, you'd be like, you know, you're failing. You get an F. Like, you son of a bitch. The paper, you'd be like, you're failing. You get an F.

Like, you've done nothing here. This is all. But yes, to your point, it's like, right, right. I just want to see him say it right in the beginning. What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I'm Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein.

We are getting on some planes tomorrow morning to head out to Kansas City. Well, I can't listen to the whole thing, so do you know what the timestamp is for when he says he's voting for Trump? I have no idea. Someone comment it? Usually someone will comment it and be like, here you go.

Yo, I'm a libertarian. I'm voting for Trump. It's the only thing. I'm just going to tweet it out. I can't imagine how they're a libertarian. Ian said it too, right? Ian, I'm tweeting. Yeah, it's the I can't imagine how they're libertarian. Ian said it too, right? Ian, I'm tweeting. Yeah, it's the only reasonable move is to vote Republican right now.

There we go. Yeah, I'm pretty nervous about the whole thing, though. The kid and the content transition. And I don't want to be doing dangerous stuff because I don't, you know what I mean? Of course not. I mean, I've been nervous to the point where I wouldn't even impregnate a woman because I feel like I'm headed towards some grand cataclysm, but I got to get past that. Yeah.

I do wonder how I'm going to be transitioning to this next phase of content, but I'm not opposed to getting a job at all. I have my master's degree. I used to be a school teacher, so I'm not at all opposed to getting a job. You're at the point, too, where you're pretty famous. You could keep making YouTube videos of all sorts of caliber that don't involve travel necessarily and it'd be pretty entertaining yeah I think I probably suffer from a bit of imposter syndrome where I feel like everything has to be so uh interesting and intense and yeah not about me but then it's like people are like oh we're interested in you but I

don't everybody has this and it's really frustrating to try and get any work done because people are too scared to try and make things that are bad. So I was in London 10 years ago, and this is actually 13 years ago. I was in this, I got invited to speak at this event, and it was this big mansion. Casey Neistat was there. He was one of the speakers as well. And someone from Google was there. I'm sitting, talking to her, and I'm like, you know, I do live reporting and field reports and stuff like this. I was like, the market for that is limited because if there's no big breaking

story and I can't, or I can't get there, then I can't cover the story. And if it pops off, then I fly there and then it shuts down. I just missed it. I spent a bunch of money. And I was like, and vlogging has become the big thing. And this woman, she was, she, she did, she did the scripted stuff for, for YouTube. They're buying shows. She was like, do vlogs. And I was like, yeah, but like, what am I even going to vlog about? I was like, like, what's going on? And then she was like, you are sitting in an 800 year old mansion, 50 miles outside of London with some of the most famous people in the world at a Google event. No one has access to, and you're asking me what to vlog about. And I was like, Oh yeah, that's a you're asking me what to vlog about and I was like

oh yeah that's a really good point maybe you just and she was like dude it's really just make something and so then when I started my channel I would just film whatever like some of my early videos on my main channel was me walking down the street in Hoboken New Jersey just talking about how I felt that's it and then I run into so many people where they're just like if I'm gonna make a video okay it's gonna take three months we're gonna make a movie it's gonna be 10 minutes long i gotta craft up the script and i'm like no look the whole point of like the the nike slogan just do it like that makes a lot of sense there's a lot of people that just don't try i had a friend that wanted to start streaming video games and stuff and i was like look if you want to start streaming video games just start

streaming them he was like well you know i gotta get the overlay and I got to get this. And I'm like, no, if you really want to do it, just start doing it. Like when I first like I was doing some streaming video games and stuff and like I did it from my Xbox without a camera. Yeah. I just started streaming. I had 100K off a GoPro. Yeah. Like just start doing it.

So Joe Rogan was was asked about politics and he's like, talk to Dave. Dave's the politics guy. It's not me. Right. People are, you know, someone tweeted, what if Joe endorses Trump? Dave Smith says I'm voting for Trump. What if Joe's just like, I trust Dave. I'm voting for you, Trump.

I'm sure his face. Yeah. Transitive property kind of sounds like it. If Joe Rogan, if Joe rogan gives like a like a straight up honest endorsement of trump i'm not saying like a trump you are the greatest president i'll be voting for you if he says you know i think there's reasons to criticize you but i do think you're probably the right choice and i'll be voting for you something like that i don't see how trump's got the votes trump's winning the vote he's winning the vote he's either gonna get killed

which i don't think he's gonna get killed because i think he's up security before the election or they're going to do some crazy bullshit fucking kick the door down arrest the guy and maybe let him out later kind of bullshit and be like he can't and they're going to violate the constitution it's it wouldn't be one of those or he's going to become president you know it'd be really funny if we just get the results on election night it's like 51-49 Trump to Harris. Harris calls in and concedes. Trump says, thank you, Kamala. It was very admirable.

You ran a good race. And then all the news outlets just say Donald Trump wins. The count is uneventful. Everyone forgets and stops caring about politics. Trump is a moderately good president where some people complain and there's some back and forth. But mostly it's just boring and uneventful, and then we forget about it. That would be wonderful, wouldn't it?

That'd be cool. That'd be pretty great, right? And then you've got Josh Shapiro and Vivek Ramaswamy, 2028. Nah, J.D. Vance. Good point. Yeah, Vance-Ramaswamy ticket. I like it a lot. Those guys.

I'm super uninformed on politics, and just from a complete layman's perspective, it's hard for me to understand, like, Kamala. Like, she's a vice president right now. So if you don't like what's going on right now, then how could you vote for her to be the president? Because you're retarded. Yeah, people just kind of doing what they're told. That's just my stupid perspective. Because Trump's Hitler.

Because they're trying to convince you. I forgot he's literally Hitler. Damn. You just got to watch convince you that Trump's Hitler. I forgot he's literally Hitler. Damn. Yeah. You just got to watch some TV and you'll remember. But that's the message right there. Kamala Harris is like, or was it Tim Waltz said we can't have four more years of this? Or was it Joe Biden who said that?

I think it was Waltz. In his own, during his own term? Waltz, I think Waltz's campaign is like, we can't have four more years of this. And it was like, he meant of Trump trump but it was like but kamala is the vp right now and these are literally her policies because she cast the tie-breaking vote in the senate so it's like everything bad happening is voted on in the house sent to the senate where it's 50 50 so then kamala cast the tie-breaking vote in favor of these policies which everyone hates it's like lining up you in her town hall she was was saying he's going to be sitting in the White House like she's manifesting it without realizing she's doing it. It's happening. It

happened. He basically won. Yeah, I think that's a lot of potential to really reinvigorate the economy. It's really about cooling down tensions. I love that. You know, Kamala was like at the town hall. She's like, imagine Donald Trump sitting there plotting his revenge. He's going to go after the enemy within the American people. And I'm like, please. Yes. Yes. I want Donald Trump sitting at the Resolute Desk being like, here's the corrupt individuals who are breaking the law, who are lying about what was going on, fabricating evidence, and they will be criminally charged. Yeah, charged judiciously, legitimately. A warrant, a judge, an investigation. None of this political bullshit. If there are actual crimes, they're investigated.

That's right. And there are. And we know there are. There's times to use prosecutorial discretion. You don't always prosecute everybody, even the criminals. Yes, you do. Unfortunately, and maybe even fortunately, sometimes to maintain order, you will opt on the side of like, sorry. In this context, we should because the bureaucracy is completely and totally out of control.

Completely out of control. And it's possible the only way that you're going to get them out of their positions is to prosecute them charge investigate charge and prosecute for any violations of the law you know i'm not an imperial fan of the empire nobody said anything about empire i'm saying hey a lot of these people are breaking constitutional law with their spying networks like having the brits spy on us and then get the info that's a constitutional violation. I'm just thinking in the interest of maintaining some order, like if you just eviscerate the head of the beast and remove the entire structure because you're like, it was all criminal at all.

We have a gang warfare again. So we've got to be somewhat delicate in the way that we perform surgery on ourselves to replicate the situation. We will go to callers right now, and we're going to grab pugs. You are on the show. How's it going? Can you guys hear me?

Yeah. I can hear you. Thanks for having me. I appreciate your show. Congratulations, Tim. And Brandon. My question is for Tim. What is it?

You took a Washington Post questionnaire earlier in a segment. Yep. One of the questions was, do you agree with expanding access and affordability of birth control, to which you strongly oppose based on the 1964 Civil Rights Act? Whoa. Are you? It was saying, I don't think.

Yeah, that sounds like two different questions. Well, that's not the question. That's kind of like a. No, no, no. I think you're incorrect. I don't believe that the question that was asked of me combined birth control with the 1964. Oh, no, no, no. You're right.

You're right. You're right. It was government funded medication for women only. And I said no to that. Right. Right. Sorry. I might have worded that wrong.

No, you are right. You are right. Sorry, I might have worded that wrong. No, you are right. You are right. What I would add is that there have been studies that have shown that testosterone can be used as male birth control because it decreases or in some cases stops sperm production. You have mentioned in the past that we need to raise testosterone or that testosterone is low in males now. If we expanded access and affordability for both female contraceptives and testosterone in men, or for men, would you reconsider your position? No, those are not the same things. Testosterone for men causes serious problems. It's not the same thing, as does birth control.

But male birth control comes in a variety of forms. They're experimenting right now with a pill men can take that would stop sperm production. And then there's also the injection they can do into the vasodiferenz or something that blocks it up. I think those are terrible things. I also think hormonal birth control is detrimental to women as well. But then there's also non-hormonal birth control. The issue at play overwhelmingly is, for one, it is literally the government giving social programs to one specific sex as a violation of civil rights. Beyond that, hormonal birth control is bad and the government shouldn't be funding it at all.

What if males also can buy the birth control? No, no, no. It's kind of tongue-in-cheek, but just because they can't eat it. Yeah, they offer it to me as well. It has to be prescribed. So take it out of prescription. What if we eased up

the ability for men to get testosterone as easy as it would be for women to get birth control? Testosterone and birth control are not the same thing. They do not function the same way. So it's like saying give someone a cheeseburger and give someone else a car. It's just totally different things. What's wrong with taking testosterone?

It'll shrink your balls and stop the production of testosterone and then make you, it'll fuck you up. So the idea is estrogen tell the woman's brain to not produce it therefore they're kind of in the same situation female female birth control and so testosterone is not birth control so you're arguing birth control testosterone those are two different things if you're arguing that women should be given estrogen and men should be given testosterone there if it's a prescription sure it's not a violation of civil rights if everyone's getting equal medical treatment as they're prescribed but now you're talking about universal health care well a lot of birth controls are uh just around like uh right but it's a derivative of estrogen

but it's it's not the same thing it's not the same function men and women are different you you can't just say give men some different drug that men have and does a different thing. Like, that's not how civil rights works. Okay. That makes sense. I, I, yeah, like they, they may come up with a male birth control pill and then the argument will be everyone must receive it equally. And it's not a violation of the 1964 civil rights act. But then the question is, do you agree with the government funding birth control and you don't correct no i do not okay i like that answer i have no argument to that just i just because i mean there's been there's like nh has studies that they've tried testosterone

as birth control and there's some studies that show that it works and so i was curious if you would support it because i know that there is like a decrease in testosterone it's you can walk in there as you know you can not to bring up i mean they give they give trans issue they give young girls testosterone it's fucked up right yeah right and so that's that's why i was like it's kind of like a double-edged sword but i appreciate your answer and um good luck with your future endeavors, man. I appreciate you taking my question. Right on.

Anything you want to shout out before you go? No, man. I have a one-year-old daughter that turned one two weeks ago, so happy birthday to her. Yeah, go. Awesome, man. All right. Well, thanks for calling in.

Thank you. See you, man. All right. Next up, we've got Black Amber. What is up? Hi. Thanks for taking my call. Hi.

Hello. Yes, thank you. Okay, so my question actually was, like, the second part of that Atlanta article. I thought maybe you would cover it, but you didn't. And I was just wondering if you knew about the Vanessa Galeen murder case. If not, I can explain because it's kind of it'll bring context to my question. Just a little bit. I know the family has denied the report and they're supporting Trump. Well, I think that it's extra fallacious because this was completely a nonpartisan issue because both parties are like this scumbag murdered this woman.

And for that military base had already had a bunch of issues and they passed Texas and the federal government passed the laws to protect women. But anyways, that was it. But my, I just was curious, like, just wanted to know if you knew anything. But my question was, I'm a huge true crime fan. And women who love true crime are often the first to follow up

with the families of victims because we're generally compassionate and horrified by these victims. And in 2020, when this happened, this case was massive because of the circumstances around it. And because the sister, the lawyer, the family, multiple people on Trump's staff all denied him saying $65,000 for a fucking Mexican. They all said that never happened.

Right, it's ridiculous. Do you think this would resonate with suburban women who, like, do care about these things, like true crime? Because, I mean, there's a stereotype of girls love true crime. It's a fact, though. Do you think this may resonate with women? Yeah, that's why they're doing it. Or evil?

That's why they're doing it. Right. Well, I think that just by—because we do follow up with the families. And honestly, I'm already a Trump supporter, but they keep— like George Conway called her pretty much disgusting for voting for Trump today. That's disgusting. Yeah. And I know for a fact these true crime women will this will not sit well with them. For them going after the family, I'm just curious if you think this may affect

morbid women. I don't know enough about it, I guess. Okay. I'm not a big true crime person. Yeah. I don't know what you guys think. I hope that it affects it. I hope that it makes Trump's chances better,

but I don't have an actual opinion on it. I'm completely ignorant to what the conversation is even about. I don't have an actual opinion on it you know i'm completely ignorant to what the conversation is even about i don't know anything about it yeah same sorry sorry about that oh it's okay it's the first i've heard of it i know it really made me sick listening to it um yesterday when i saw it what happened i was really annoyed well then maybe maybe it will yeah if it upset you i imagine it would upset other people what is the situation can you briefly like in 20 seconds explain what the fuck is going on what

happened a woman got murdered and then they blamed somebody and when trump said he was going to pay for the funeral they ran a fake quote where Trump said, I'm paying for a Mexican. Oh, that's too much money. And it's just like, there's no way Trump said that. The woman was the Mexican? The woman who got murdered. Okay.

But there's no way Trump said that. It's ridiculous. Trump shits $25,000. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I heard Heinrich Himmler was his assistant, so. Yeah, that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I heard Heinrich Himmler was his assistant, so.

Yeah, that's right. In his dreams. Is there anything you wanted to shout out or add? I wanted to say congratulations, Tim. Thank you. I've been following you for years, and I'm very happy for you. I was really giddy, and my husband goes, you don't even know this guy? That's what I talked to him three times.

There you go. And because Brandon Buckingham's there, I don't, know this guy. That's what I talked to him three times. There you go. And because Brandon Buckingham's there, are you still, is the Inverted World still going to be around? Okay, so I think that because Brandon Buckingham reminded me that the Appalachian Christian cryptic king, Wendigoom himself, would be a wonderful guest for Inverted World. I know he's got a lot going on right now. But, yeah.

He would be a great guest for Inverted World. He knows tons about cryptids and weird conspiracy stuff. Windigoon's amazing. If you guys ever wanted to have him on, I could definitely line that up. I should connect you with Shane. Yeah, he's awesome. I'm about to be starting a group channel with Windigoon. Did you know that?

Oh, that's great. I love Wind to be starting a group channel with Wendigan. Did you know that? Oh, really? Oh, that's great. I love Wendigan. And Meet Canyon and Creep Pass. Yeah, that's just great. Yeah, I was just out there with Meet Canyon in Kansas. But yeah, that's awesome. I'd love to see Wendigan on.

Well, thanks for calling in. You're welcome. Bye-bye. Bye. Have a good one. All right. Asmodeus, welcome to the program. Hey, Test123, can you hear me?

Got you, yes. Awesome. So, Tim, I'm sorry I have a bit of a long-winded question. I guess I'm known for those. Basically, so we are seeing a massive, or maybe not a massive leak, as you said, that the Democrats were still leading in early voting. But from what I saw, they were actually getting BTF vote in places like Mexico or what, or not

Mexico, but New Mexico and Nevada. I didn't know they were running in Mexico. What was that? I said I didn't know they were running in Mexico. Well, I mean, probably. I mean, they have to get those legal somehow. But basically, we're seeing increasingly desperate moves right now from the left. I mean, they have to get those legal somehow. But basically, we're seeing increasingly desperate moves right now from the left. I mean, the two biggest ones were the announcements from, coincidentally, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and I believe Arizona, who all have had their early voting, saying that it could take, I think in Arizona's case, the 13 days to call the election results.

Yep. And there was a recent article, I don't know if you saw it, but apparently there's, the DHS is playing a massive cyber attack exercise quotes on November 5th. What? And yeah, you can look this up.

It's going to be wild, dude. What if like the TV's just shut off the internet shuts off on november 5th no one needed what the fuck is going on probably i won't eat a cheeseburger i haven't eaten bread in like a year and a half i will i will get a fucking cheeseburger and i will just sit back and i'm like that's what they want you to do well really my question is do you think they would be this desperate i mean they are but but are they that brazen with crowder and everyone else just watching them like a hawk would they if we have evidence that we can post in their faces that we we have the receipts and we show that there isn't it isn't witness

testimony it's literal yeah it doesn't matter bro like you gotta understand there's a reason why war happens because the talking stops. And if they're, if they're like, okay, we're, we're, you know, like a bank robber is going to eventually start shooting at the cops. Why would he do it? He's going to get killed because it's over. It's like, he's got a long shot million to one chance and he's going to run the door shooting. Democrats are not just going to be like, well, August Trump's putting us in prison for the rest of our lives and exposing the creepy pedophile rings. They're going to be like, well, August Trump's putting us in prison for the rest of our lives and exposing the creepy pedophile rings. They're going to be like, fuck that, burn it down. They would rather burn the system down so they can escape it than surrender. So we're basically just, I mean, do you think that, I guess a better way to phrase that then,

since I have your opinion, is that do you think they'd be able to pull it off given the momentum right now like how how stupid they have to be under 100 they could pull it off i was saying this on the show the other night if the media comes out and just says kamala wins kamala wins republicans are going to go dull whoa that's it there's not going to be an insurrection there's not going to be a bunch of angry trump supporters with guns going around marching through the streets it's never going to happen it could be. There's not going to be a bunch of angry Trump supporters with guns going around marching through the streets. It's never going to happen. It could be every precinct being like, Trump wins. And then the media just goes, Kamala wins. And every media outlet and every news report says Kamala wins.

And everyone in the country will be like, I guess Kamala won. But how many people take the mainstream media seriously anymore? I would say 30% of the population. It's just so hard to guess. Somewhere between 30% and 50%. It doesn't even matter if they take it seriously. Like, we don't trust it. But, like, I really don't see a reality in which Crowder pulls up the AP, the New York Times, Fox News, CBS, ABC, and they all say Kamala wins. He's not going to look at that and go, nah, Trump won.

That's my point. So even if Trump does win all the votes, so long as the media claims otherwise, that's all that matters. They don't need any votes. They just need every news outlet to be like, no, Kamala won. Mm-hmm. I mean, I get it, but at the same time, I don't think— it just feels so reality-breaking if they try to do that. Yeah, it might be an attempt to do that, and it gets seen through.

That is possible, because the internet's a powerful force. But I guess we'll see. 13 days. Yep. It's going to be fun. Yep. I still need to see. I don't know if my state does early in-person voting.

I think you have to mail it in or something, which is stupid. You check it out. I just searched Maryland early voting. If you just type your state early voting, it'll pop up right away. I did that, and I think it has to be some weird fricking absentee ballot or something. I'll double check it. It shouldn't be that difficult. Yeah.

Is there anything else you wanted to add? No. Congratulations on the kid. Glad to see you've got your priorities in order uh but thanks right on well thanks for calling in cheers yeah no i i'll add to um you know that with the family stuff we've been working on this already for for quite some time that's why I'm not going to say when the due date is, but it is soon.

It is sooner rather than later. So we're close. But, you know, we don't want to say anything because security issues. Yeah. And we have a lot of friends

and family and other people in the community who are having kids too and nobody wants to mention it because some fucking lunatic is going to show up and do some crazy shit.

Yeah, you don't need to mention it ever really. Yeah, I've kept my wife anonymous for three years, and then I just made the executive decision to go public with it, which I don't know if I regret or not yet. It's good, because talking about being a father is very valuable for the human race,

to hear people in your position to talk about that experience, because we want to encourage—I mean, I think it's important to encourage people to have families. Sure, look at the birth rates. Jeez Louise. Shadowbox, you're here. Hola, Brandon, my goy. How are we doing? What up, my goy? Dude, big fan of you and the boy Turkey Tom.

Yes. Percocet Thomas. Dude, you got to do a Stop Gooning collab at some point. And let's just say if you needed a designer, just hit me up, dude. Oh, you mean on the merch? What'd you say? Stop gooning merch with Tom. Dude, you should do it.

Stop gooning with Brandon Buckingham. Or stop shooting, maybe. Yeah, that's more suitable for me. But yeah, no fat for life, right? All right, I'll just move straight on to the question. So this is for anybody to answer, mostly for Tim, though, because he's said some stuff like this in the past. When the topic of abortion, sterilizing kids through hormones, and self-castration comes up, we often see people who are opposed to the left's ideology say things like they're exterminating themselves

or they're killing their own kids, so their ideology is going to die. While those things are certainly true, it raises a question. Do you see this as a pragmatic fact in the culture war, or do you see it as a good thing? And if one is to say it's a good thing, are they in turn believing that the ends justify the means? It is a pragmatic fact. We don't want people to sterilize kids and kill themselves. We want them to wake up and have an epiphany and say, my God, I've been wrong this whole time. That would be the good outcome. Every Democrat voter wakes up one day and just says, maybe I should watch a different news channel and stop watching MSNBC. Turns on Joe Rogan and says, this guy's kind of wacky, but he makes some good points. I'm going to look into this further. And then collectively, overnight, everyone's like, holy fuck, we were wrong. We need to stop damaging our children. Then we all high five them. We all

sit around a campfire and eat marshmallows. Yep. Good. Or like healthier food. That's what I was going to say. The thing. Yeah, right, right. Original marshmallow root marshmallows. The the the fact that like Tulsi Gabbard, RFK and Donald Trump all used to be Democrats, that's the Democrats that we're trying to get. Joe Manchin has left the Democrat Party. Kirsten Sinema is not a leftist. She's a Democrat, even though she's a little weird. The goal is to get Democrats to behave like liberal Democrats again, as opposed to progressives or socialists, because that's really the way that the left is behaving in the United States. Now, it used to be where the U.S., everybody was basically on board with, you know, private property ownership and things like free speech and, you know, the government not having

the authority to just go into your house and look for things and civil asset forfeiture was bad and all these things that limited the power of the government. That used to be the normal opinion of not just your average Americans, but also of the government. They represented the opinions of the people in government reflected the opinions of the actual population. And the goal is to get Democrats back to sanity and stop having the progressives be the ones that are setting the tone for the Democrat Party. If you could do that, you would end all of this. Everybody's Hitler, because the people that were calling, you know, people that we're calling Reagan, Hitler, they were the crazy far leftists. They weren't your regular Democrats, you know. So that is that's always been, at least for me personally, that's that's been the goal is to get people that are Democrats that are on the left today to stop being progressives that are looking to do crazy, whacked out progressive things, but actually be like, you know, Democrats. Maybe they want a little bit more taxation,

and maybe they support unions over corporations, but the differences have always been fairly small. Nowadays, the left has gone so far left, they can't reasonably even be called liberals anymore. They're actually progressives or socialists or whatever. I'm ordering real marshmallows right now. Those are like cow hooves or something. It's cane sugar, light corn syrup, filtered water, marshmallow root, agalbuminem, and tartaric acid.

Albumin. Albumin. Albumin. Yeah, you can make those too. We were looking at doing that in Florida. Dude, Amazon doesn't have any. It's kind of, I'm like. Fresh ones?

Yeah, I want marshmallows made from marshmallow root. I got, it's animal, God, I should bring in the jar of the powder. It's whatever you, if you grind up like cow hooves, it turns into. Gelatin. Yeah, it's like, and then you use that with sugar and water and some of but it sounds like those ingredients marshmallow root now there's an interesting thing you know and with like the far left progressives that had the the crazies that would call reagan hitler that you're talking about it's it's sort of like there's not that many of them but they have a

louder megaphone so more people are hearing it and then getting swayed when you have a louder megaphone you're able to sway people to your cause. Like with internet, it is kind of an equalizer. It lets crazies, obsessive crazies get a little more access to, uh, persuasive techniques too. But yeah, other than that,

I fully agree that it's a fringe behavior. It's fucking weird to hear a candidate saying it out loud. Hmm. Does that answer your question? Yeah. Uh, that's, that's kind of what i was thinking because i've had people i know say that and it just as a a christian man who's who's very passionate about the topic um as much as i would love my enemies to lose i don't want it to be like that so um amen as far as yeah it It just breaks my heart.

We need to all win in this situation. Maybe not all. Or just him. Either way. Playing Magic, there's no draws. Of course there is. Actually, I have a deck that just tries to draw it out. That's what I'm talking about. Or like an infinite win combo where no one wins.

I think it's Divine Intervention. It's vanishing two after two turns. It's a draw. Everyone draws. Whole game's over. That's awesome. Yeah. It's super annoying to the person who's about to win.

They're like, well, you got any removal? No. We should play with Scheherazade again. Set your decks aside and then you start an entire new game. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's the most tedious card in the game. Yep.

It's fucking. Anyway, anyway, back to the real world what we're wrapping up on this yeah i was oh sorry brother oh that you don't want us other people to lose in order for you to win it'd be great if we could all win this together somehow or enough of us could win this together where it seems like a total victory yeah i was just gonna shout out some couple things real quick so um first of all, shout out to Brandon Buckingham, literally putting his life on the line for some journalistic integrity. Thank you so much.

Also, shout out to, I'm an Indianist, so I got to shout it out. Shout out to the IU Hoosiers. They're 7-0s in this college season already. And mostly, most important, of course, is my business. It supports my family, supports my hobbies because I like buying expensive things and I can't buy them with the money for my main job because that goes toward trends. So if anybody needs any

designs, that includes anybody on the show. If you need any designs, just hit me up on my Instagram. Same as my name on here, same logo. So, yeah. Thanks for having me on. What is the name? It's shadow.box.design on Instagram. I'm not on Twitter just because too much porn on there.

Really? You should do it, dude. It's good for business. Not the porn. It is good for business. Not the porn. I mean, that could also be good for business. No, not that. Yeah, it is good for business, but I've had issues with it in the past, so I try to keep off of it.

Right on, man. Shout out to you, brother. I might DM you about the design. Well, thanks for calling in. Absolutely. All right. And everybody listening right now, the members only, we're going to have the Josh Sider expose

where we sent a camera guy down to interview Josh, better understand what he was doing, and film the reveal with Alex Stein at his studio at Blaze. We're really excited for it, so definitely check that out Friday. We're going to have that members content, and then we're going to see if we can actually start producing some members content for Fridays that will be like some kind of field reports, and maybe we get Elad on the ground.

We're working on it. We're trying to figure things out. One of the big things we're doing is as we're pulling things back, we're trying to maximize. So we've got all these spinning plates, and we're now like, no, no, no, get one things back, we're trying to maximize, so we've got all these spinning plates and we're now like, no, no, no, get one plate spinning before we move on to the next one because we have too many going right now.

So that's what we're trying to do. So PCC is getting a big, big boost and we're going to try and make sure we get those off the ground so they can become independent. And one of the key ways to making, reducing our managerial needs is to get these projects to the point

where they're self-sustaining and managing themselves. So we'll be working on that, but I'll wrap it up there. Brandon, it's been a blast. Thanks for hanging out. Thank you guys so much for having me on. And if my channel gets nuked after my Lebanon video, maybe I could work for Tim Poole on the ground reporter, right? Boom, there we go. If you get nuked,

well then we'll definitely do it. That'd be sick. Alright everybody, thanks for hanging out and we'll be back tomorrow morning ragging on Kamala because that town hall was we'll see y'all then