Timcast IRL - 🚨BREAKING: Trump DOJ FIRES Epstein Prosecutor, James Comey's Daughter Amid Controversy w/ Steve Hilton

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Brett are joined by Steve Hilton to discuss Pam Bondi firing the prosecutor investigating Epstein, Trump calling his supporters weaklings, Alex Jones slamming Trump over Epstein files, an...d young Democrats continuing to embrace Zohran Mamdani & socialism.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett  @PopCultureCrisis  (YouTube, Rumble) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Steve Hilton @SteveHiltonx (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Go to Talkspace.com slash military to get started today. That's Talkspace.com slash military. Trump's DOJ, Pam Bondi, has fired the Jeffrey Epstein prosecutor, who just so happens to be Comey's daughter, Maureen Comey. It's a weird story, but apparently the pressure is working. Charlie Kirk came around and said Trump needs to do something about this. I believe he was calling for some kind of press conference to address the issues. Now Donald Trump himself this morning said you are my past supporters and if you care about this I don't want your support calling it the Jeffrey
Starting point is 00:01:36 Epstein hoax. Now there was a fascinating post by one Republican saying the MAGA influencers need to realize they have no power base. Trump is their power and they've got nothing. Good luck with that. If you're going to say you're not voting, good luck. That's hilarious. Okay, I guess Democrats just sweep the midterms. If that's the attitude you're going to take. Donald Trump has come out against the Epstein thing relentlessly calling it a hoax, trying to dismiss it. And it's not working because it's not just a fracturing of his base but the Democrats are pouncing as well so you've got a unified front effectively saying we want the Epstein files and it's and it's Trump's own making they did not need to go so heavy on all these
Starting point is 00:02:16 memos and Trump himself blasting these truth social posts so this is what happens but it does look like the pressure is working so it is is getting interesting. We'll talk about that. Plus we've got, of course, never forget the Democrats are nuts. A Democratic strategist praying for a depression as the progressives meet with Zoran Mamdani, New York's resident socialist, to talk about the future, the Democratic part.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That's right, socialist. So, oh boy, if you're mad at Trump, I mean, to be fair, yikes, the alternative is pretty scary. And then we've got a soft amnesty bill moving its way through, we'll talk about that. And then there's good news, the Doge cuts went through, PBS, NPR getting defunded.
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Starting point is 00:05:35 Fantastic to be here. Thanks for coming. I think this is, you know, not much going on in MAGA world to discuss. To be honest, it is surprising that this story will not stop. And so, I mean, there was a tsunami warning, an earthquake.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I know. And we're like, man, but the warning was abated and it's an advisory and everyone's chill. And it's like, okay, that happened. And then this is the breaking news. But who are you? What do you do? Steve Hilton, I am running for governor of California.
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Starting point is 00:07:58 Attorney General Pam Bondi fired Maureen Comey, a prosecutor with the Southern District of New York who had prosecuted deceased child trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Comey's senior trial counsel is the daughter of James Comey. The reason for her firing was not immediately clear. She did not immediately respond to phone calls and an email seeking comment, Politico said. Comey who has worked in his attorney's office for nearly a decade prosecuted both Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell. Maureen Comey worked at the SDNY for almost a decade.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I think this is something we should consider as Donald Trump is calling us a hoax or whatever he's saying. There's no excuse for not giving the people some answers on Epstein. But when you find out, and I know like this, this is actually, most of us knew this about who prosecuted him, but it's Comey's daughter who was prosecuting Epstein, you have to wonder about, listen, when we say we wanna know what's going on, I don't for a second think it's just that Comey, I'm sorry, that, Comey,
Starting point is 00:09:00 Epstein was working with intel agents and blackmailing. I think the US DOJ was in on it. And we heard this too. What was the guy's name? Was it Alex Acosta? Who said that he was prosecuting and was told he belongs to intelligence. So back off.
Starting point is 00:09:14 The entire government, or at least some element within it was on it, was involved in this. And if it's Comey's daughter, who was doing the prosecutions, it does seem like this runs deeper than we realize. So a couple of things. I mean, first of all, I got to say, I do feel very sympathetic to Trump's attitude to this, right? Which is, he's sitting there with this incredible election victory after everything they did to him. And he comes back and he wins the popular vote and he sweeps the swing states and he's getting to action and he's delivered the most incredible
Starting point is 00:09:49 start to presidency anyone can remember and all these great things are happening and I can totally sympathize with his frustration. That's the first point. But you're right to say that this is kind of a self-created thing, right? This is all from the way they've handled it. The other point, and I'm so glad you mentioned Acosta. So I went back over what I've said about this story in the past. And some people may remember,
Starting point is 00:10:14 I used to host a show on Fox News on Sunday nights, the next revolution. And we had a segment called Swamp Watch every week. And I would take some aspect of the swamp and it was non-partisan, you know, I'd have a go at everybody, Republicans and they didn't like it when I did that and I went right across the board. And I did a whole piece on that plea deal, that unbelievable plea deal that Alex Acosta
Starting point is 00:10:38 agreed to when he was the US attorney down in Florida. And the most shameful thing about that was his explanation. This is like 2007 when they first did Epstein and he basically got off with barely any punishment at all. It was like some kind of house arrest that wasn't even house arrest. It was really bad. And Acosta said, well, to the equivalent of, well, what can you expect? This is the best we could imagine we could hope for. In other words, he's rich,
Starting point is 00:11:05 he's powerful. So of course he's gonna get something that's basically not a punishment at all. And I think that goes to the heart of why people are so fired up about this because it's that same old story that the elites just get away with stuff and there's no accountability. So it's beyond just the details of the case. It's this feeling of when are we gonna get justice and accountability for these people that have been in charge? And the system just looks after itself. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So this is also a component of the story. This is a couple of days ago, Pam Bondi ousts the top ethics official at the DOJ. A lot of people are saying that the pressure is working and moves like this are the result of people demanding action. The fact, you know what I think? I think Bondi puts out that phase one binder,
Starting point is 00:11:55 thinking like maybe if we give them some breadcrumbs, they'll stop and they don't. The story is not letting up. Journalists are asking about it. Personalities are asking about it and Trump can't help himself. So the pressure is mounting. And I think now we're starting to get movement.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Trump has no choice. Something has to come out. And I will stress this. Trump, if he just said, if this morning, instead of being like, I don't want your support, he posted something simple, you are correct. We will release the Epstein. We'll
Starting point is 00:12:27 release everything on Epstein. We can as fast as we can. Everyone would be cheering. Democrats would be like, whoa. Yes, and I still think he's got the opportunity to do that. But look, we know his character and his temperament. He's like, if you go for him, he just punches back. I mean, that's who he is, right? So this is totally in line with What you'd expect from him. However, he's you know, you can feel it in all the criticism from all the people You know in the base and the leaders of that movement who were who were saying as they make the criticisms They're all saying we love you. We want to support you You know
Starting point is 00:13:01 They don't want to like have get into a war with. And the minute exactly as you say, the minute that he actually makes a move in that direction, everyone will be cheering. It's still an opportunity to do that. I just love it if he put out a truth like tomorrow morning saying I'm just joshing here the files and then dumps. You should. I want to push back on the idea that it's the you mentioned the like the supporters, right?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Like the influencers and stuff. I think the influencers really would fall in line were it not for the fact that specifically Gen Z but the young Trump supporters are so incensed about this and I talked about this last night how young people really have just taken this particular issue and have really just it's really just offended them because they've dealt with COVID being lied to about COVID. They were lied to about Biden, they were lied to about so many things they feel like they were
Starting point is 00:13:53 lied to about whether or not our system works because they don't have the same opportunity that their parents had or they feel like they don't. That's the huge point underlying all of this frustration and anger totally agree. And so I think that the influencers are actually being influenced by their viewers and by the base. A lot of people that are what you would call normies really don't have a lot of interest
Starting point is 00:14:16 and it's broken up by age. Gen Z is not having this. They are pissed. And these people are the people that you have to worry about in 10 years, 20 years. You know, what do they want America to look like and what are they going to vote for? And if they don't trust anyone in the government, you know, it makes you wonder what type of government we're going to have. I agree with that. And I also agree with the, you know, the point that we're all all making which is that it's not sustainable to keep stonewalling I mean I remember back in the day before we moved here for those who don't know I moved in 2012
Starting point is 00:14:53 I've still got the British accent but moved from the UK with my wife and my sons But before that I was senior advisor in the UK government to the Prime Minister David Cameron so I've been at the heart of these kinds of things and you there's just a Prime Minister David Cameron. So I've been at the heart of these kinds of things and there's just a momentum and a pressure to these things and you think you can hold it back and you can't. And I think that is true in this case. And I totally, I think this, it is really deep. That's the point you made is exactly right. And you can say it's just Epstein and we get really kind of, know, we're outraged about the the child Sex aspect of it. Of course we are that's revolting the work most heinous crime, you know, we can say all that
Starting point is 00:15:31 But it is deeper and broader. It's this general feeling that the system It looks after itself and we get shafted all the time and lied to about it and and and nothing ever happens Yeah, exactly nothing ever happens. Yeah, nothing ever happens. And I think that's, I mean, I do connect it to this stuff about the pardons for Fauci, for example, in relation to the pandemic. And in California, I mean, literally one of the things that I've announced is that as governor,
Starting point is 00:15:56 I will have a COVID accountability commission to look, we had the most extreme and destructive lockdowns, the anti-science nonsense, the school closures, businesses closed, churches, all of that. Gavin Newsom pushing all that, even though they knew that it was making no difference. There's been no accountability for any of that. It's not just people in government, because young people can look back to the 2008 crisis and nobody in a position of authority at any bank went to jail, nobody lost their
Starting point is 00:16:26 jobs and the government just printed money and ruined the dollar for young people because the effects of that money printing are really now starting to really be felt by the average American. Also you can make the same exact point in relation to the lockdowns and all of that because all the money that was spent unnecessarily, because we needn't have shut everything down, we're gonna be paying that off. Those people are gonna be paying that off for generations.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Another point on accountability that I think is just so kind of crazy when you look at going back to the Epstein story narrowly, like they say, like there's not, first of all, if there's nothing wrong here, why is Ghislaine Maxwell in jail then the other question is like why is the only person that's actually been punished for this or held accountable a woman it's like a main character I do I do love this because when the memo came out there was this
Starting point is 00:17:18 meme where it was so Jeffrey Epstein took his own life right before he was gonna be proven innocent and Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail for nothing. And I'm immediately like, no, no, no, no, guys, the memo says that she was trafficking to Jeffrey. However, the memo also said that there was no evidence that would predicate an investigation at a third party's. So the point they were making was the official story is Ghislaine Maxwell manifested underage girls from the ether to give to Epstein.
Starting point is 00:17:45 They were trafficked from no one to him. Okay, come on. She was getting them from somewhere. That's how you prove she was trafficking. Then you have Epstein. Nobody went into or out of the prison. Here's the video. And I'm like, that's right.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Epstein was never discovered dead. His corpse just lifted up, levitating and floated out of the jail. No one came in. There's actually plenty of people online who are like, I don't even know if he's dead now. For all I know, this guy's off on an island somewhere. Well, there is this viral video, this viral image of a drone shot. Someone was flying and there's a guy pressed up against a golf cart, like trying to hide from the drone.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Everyone's like, that's Epstein. I don't know, man. But some people there's like a viral 4chan post where they post something like they came in in the wee hours of morning brought Epstein out and Then you know that next thing anybody knew they said that he was dead But they don't know that ever came in and the conspiracy theory is that they shuffled him out of the jail You know but ridiculous thing just pure jail, you know. The other thing, ridiculous thing, just pure kind of, you know, handling basics of this thing where they put out the video and there's the missing minute or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Three minutes. Three minutes and then there's no explanation when they do it and then they're cleaning it up afterwards when people ask questions rather than putting it out as many people have pointed out, just, you know, if this is going to be your position, have a press conference, release the information, be ready ready to take questions explain at the outset why there's the missing minutes and then people are not immediately suspicious just a basic lack of attention to detail right all of this stuff it's it should have been obvious to anyone that was thinking about releasing this look man
Starting point is 00:19:22 people are gonna see that there's time missing and they're gonna say, oh, this has been docked. I gotta be honest. Have you guys ever been watching someone try and do a thing that you're better at? Yeah. And you're like, stop, let me do it. And they're like, I can do it, man.
Starting point is 00:19:38 And you're like, oh my, like they're trying to change a tire on a car and they're like, they can't get the nut out. This is what I see when I see the Trump administration's PR handling of all the Epstein stuff. It's like watching all of them fumble and flub all of the optics on this, knowing that, I'm being somewhat facetious, but I feel like
Starting point is 00:19:57 literally anybody could have done a better job. They could have hired like a marketing intern, fresh out of college, to ask them what the plan should be and how you handle the release of these memos. And intern fresh out of college to ask them what the plan should be and how you handle the Release of these memos and it's it's out of character too because the Trump administration has been so good at optics Exactly and so good at message. He's good at it The problem is but he didn't that's the point. He'd sorry he didn't this wasn't his Operation and that's that's I think an important part of this and I think he's been let down by all these people maybe
Starting point is 00:20:26 No, the buck stops with him And the problem is is that he has a bombastic personality and an ego that won't allow him to pull back and look at things At a grander scale and when you keep telling people well You're no longer a supporter of mine when you tell like the the amount of fumbling that's going on right now is look the people Who don't want to see this going on are like look Anyone talking about Trump's base being a cult his entire base is taking him to task right now, right? Let's jump to this story. We got this from CNN the most trusted name of news Apparently Trump lashes out at weaklings who believe Epstein bowl isish amid building GOP pressure to release documents.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I just love the point Broward is making. These liberals are going out there like, ha ha, you're in a cult. Meanwhile, literally every Trump supporter is like, Trump, what are you doing? This has been the greatest week ever to watch all of this stuff like fall down for people where you're like, look, you have to understand that people do not look at this as a cult. These people want to see this stuff. And if there's one thing that nobody is going to allow anybody a freebie on, it's the abuse of children. Yeah. So this is from Trump's Truth. He says, their new scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And my past supporters have bought into this bullish hook line and
Starting point is 00:21:38 sinker Trump wrote in Emissive on Truth Social. They haven't learned their lesson and probably never will, even after being conned by the lunatic left for eight long years. I've had more success in six months than perhaps any president in our country's history, and all these people want to talk about with strong prodding by the fake news and the success star of Dems, the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work. Don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore. They deserve to lose seats now. They deserve it. So apocalyptic.
Starting point is 00:22:13 It's so... go ahead. I want to read this from Mike Davis. Let's be crystal clear. MAGA influencers do not have a power base separate from Trump. Their power is derivative of Trump. Trump isn't running for reelection. They need Trump a hell of a lot more than he needs them. Quote, I'll stay home in the next election. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:22:35 If ever there was a temper tantrum spiraling out of control... That's exactly what I was just thinking. ...to burn down your goodwill. It's just insane. It's so emotional. And you just think, come on, look, there really are serious things at stake. If the Dems take control of the House, then that's the end of any kind of progress legislatively. You can't just sort of throw it all away. There's, by the way, important elections next year, including mine in California.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So I would like to see course and engaged and fired up base I'd love to see California be you know, so I just think that we can't afford this kind of thing It is very very it's kind of feel so petulant that particular one. It feels this is this is like PR Destruction and here's thing they can't this is thing it can be afforded because if there's one thing people will not accept, it's the abuse of children. They will lose seats, they will throw everything away if it means that these files come out and the people who abuse children are held accountable. And he cannot call it a hoax because there is a woman in jail supposedly that is, you
Starting point is 00:23:38 know, relevant to this entire story. So then the question is, why is she in jail? If it's a hoax. I really agree with the people who've said let's hear from her and let her just be... Where was she getting the kids from? When they say there's no third parties involved it's like okay maybe you should investigate more than just her and figure out where the kids were coming from. It's not like Elaine Maxwell pulled children from the ether ether She got them from somewhere
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, I mean the the fact that people are still upset about this is directly connected to the fact to the the Just a heinousness of the crimes. I think this is this tweet however from Mike Davis Basically, we don't need you. Goodbye I want to stress what he doesn't understand is, I get, I think the clarification is, MAGA influencer refers specifically to people who are of Trump and only Trump, and they don't have anything else going for them.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Prominent personnel is an ex or whatever. But MAGA influencer is going to make a lot of people feel like you're talking about them. Because who are the people critical of Trump right now? It's not the MAGA influencer is going to make a lot of people feel like you're talking about them. Because who are the people critical of Trump right now? It's not the MAGA diehards. They're saying, okay, Trump, I trust you. So when he's criticizing people, he's basically saying in the periphery of the Trump base,
Starting point is 00:24:56 I guarantee you there's gonna be someone like, you know, Andrew Schultz already did. But not just that, there's gonna be somebody who voted for Trump, supports Trump, like what Trump is doing, but also is a hothead just like Trump. And there will be, as long as it's one, it's bad. One guy who goes, oh yeah, mother, fine, I ain't voting.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Screw you, I'll watch the country burn. And you're like, fine, I don't care. Do whatever you want. And it's like, we need every vote we get. Exactly. And also because if the Republicans lose the House, there's impeachments, there will be no legislation passed that conservatives think is good. And more to the point, if a Democrat wins in 2028, or whatever, in the next election,
Starting point is 00:25:42 they're going to come after Republicans again. If you think that what Biden was doing, what Biden was doing and how they were attacking conservatives was bad before, it's only going to be worse because there's actually been attempts to change things. And they know that another Republican, the Democrats and the people that you would consider deep staters, they'll know that whoever is in the office of the president, if they're allowed to be a Republican, they're gonna actually do more. And that's the last thing they want.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Viva Fry made a really great point. He had a post where he said, I'll just clarify some rest of the point. Dan and Cash came out and said, we looked at the files, Epstein killed himself. And his response was, whoa, wait a minute. The files from the Democrat DOJ that was corrupt and was weaponizing the DOJ against you,
Starting point is 00:26:36 like why would you just take their file and go, this must be correct. And now claim there isn't one, this is gaslighting. I mean, maybe the argument is they got in, went through the file and said, oh, okay. And then later Trump was like, you believe that? And they went, oops, okay, I guess there's no file. You can't send a bunch of people out of the White House with binders for a photo op. Phase one, phase one. And then call it a hoax. It's like nobody's that stupid. The thing is, the weird part of this as well is I don't understand what is holding
Starting point is 00:27:07 them back from transparency because you know this argument that oh well you're seeing it from the left, well Trump must be in the files and that's why, it's just to me so preposterous if he was, why wouldn't they have used that against him in the past? They leaked his taxes. Ridiculous. The other point is just people need to remember is that the original soft prosecution with that ridiculous plea deal, whatever, that was under Bush 2007, and then it, and Biden did nothing, and Epstein was arrested
Starting point is 00:27:36 and put in jail when Trump was president. And also the point Charlie made, I think today, that Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago because he was so disgusted by his behavior. So the idea that Trump is implicated in this just seems ridiculous to me. So why not just be transparent? They need to be better on their messaging. This is a good tweet right here.
Starting point is 00:27:55 This is from Alex Fiver. He says, are you a conservative that voted for secure borders, ICE raids, and end to child mutilation, designating the cartels as terrorist organizations, DEI out of government, and the defunding of NPR? Well President Trump is delivering on all of those issues. Congratulations. And I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:28:10 The only issue is why is it so antagonistic in the way you're phrasing it? The administration, this tweet was good, but he should have said something like, I understand people are upset on this issue and I understand why, but please at least consider our victories. List of victories. The thing is for topics like this, whether it's for people who work in politics or even people in this space who comment on it, you tend to look at things at a macro scale. You're looking at things in the theoretical and as tactics rather than as what is actually
Starting point is 00:28:43 happening in the world. And if you're somebody who's just an average everyday person and we're talking about horrific things being done to children they don't care about all of these things because that is so egregious to the average everyday person that it can't be looked at as just one issue in a plate full of issues even if they're succeeding on every other aspect that they're attempting to deliver on because it is so bad you Cannot just get past this you know and there's a lot of assumption going on when it comes to the people that are upset about
Starting point is 00:29:11 This right there's an assumption There's an assumption that there are a lot more people involved and that there are a lot more people that have have You know sexually assaulted children and you know essentially raped children That's possible, but that's not guaranteed. You don't, we don't actually know that there's a lot more, it could have been just Epstein and, what is it, Prince Andrew was his name? Prince Andrew, exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:34 It could have been just those two people. Yeah, that's not the one guy. Well, I'm not, and I'm not saying that it's impossible that there are more people, but the point that I'm making is they're assuming that this is the case, and because of that, until they get their pound of flesh, they're not going to be satisfied. So even if there were more information to be released, the people that believe, just like the people that believe that Epstein was Mossad and that it's involved with Israel
Starting point is 00:30:02 and stuff, those people will never be satisfied. But that aspect of it as well goes to this suspicion that this is all just the government and the deep state looking after itself and whatever. And that's another thing that can be put to rest if you just had transparency. And the fact that it's not being done fuels all that speculation. And I just think it's ridiculous being done, fuels all that, you know, speculation.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And I just think it's ridiculous that I truly don't understand, I genuinely don't understand what is the barrier to just being transparent. And one of the biggest rallying cries for Trump from 2016 onwards was the idea of fake news and that you are being lied to by an evil government and an evil political media apparatus that's telling you one thing and doing another. And now he is saying one thing and doing another, and that is a very, very hard thing. You can't work your way back from that.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Like when you were once seen as somebody who was supposed to drain the swamp, bring people back to a world with actual functional government, even though we know that that's kind of oxymoronic in a lot of ways. You can't talk about truth and then start sidestepping your own words and have the same and expect to have the same impact on people that you had when people were first brought
Starting point is 00:31:15 to the idea of fake media and evil politicians. Let's show to this next story from Medi-ite. You're not the Pope, bro. Alex Jones goes off over Trump throwing his Epstein disgruntled fans out of MAGA. And I think Alex Jones was basically saying like he will never defend or protect globalist pedos and traffickers just because it's Trump or just because of the victories we may be getting.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Here's a quote, he says, well, you're not the Pope bro, I mean, you're not speaking from the throne ex, how do you pronounce that? Cathedra. I mean, you're not speaking from the throne. How do you pronounce that? Cathedra? Ex-Cathedra. And plus, I'm not Catholic. The thing with Catholics is, just give me a break, anybody who disagrees with anything I say is banished. And I'm not saying Trump might as a cult.
Starting point is 00:31:55 The Democrats are the cult of hating reason and logic and common sense. But when Trump starts behaving like that, it starts getting into cult territory. And I bet since I talked the first hour and said I'm not in this cult, that's what it's turning into. I bet there's already news articles about it. Okay, you're not wrong, Alex. But then we have this. Interestingly, this is from a couple days ago,
Starting point is 00:32:15 we brought it up. Charlie Kirk said, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being. I'm gonna trust my friend's administration. Charlie went on to, I think this is important context too, because when we've talked about this, this should be mentioned. He says, we should have the information,
Starting point is 00:32:27 Trump should do it, but I understand, you know, they're working and I trust them, so I'll let them cook. Well, here's the latest. Charlie Kirk pleads with Trump to deal with Epstein files truly because we care about you. Charlie was trying to say, we're gonna move on. You cannot.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Trump has made this the prime principle headline news story in politics and culture. And now all of his base that we're trying to calm things down are ripped right back into it from Kirk Jones or whoever else may be. And then Megyn Kelly was roasting the ultra loyalists who are just agreeing with Trump no matter what? You know and Charlie I thought he put it well. I mean look he's a good friend of mine. He you know supporting my campaign He's fantastic, and I thought he did a fantastic job today. I
Starting point is 00:33:13 Listened to it of explaining Why this matters so much and why it needs to be addressed and it was interesting that having said he wasn't going to talk about it He talked about it. Yeah, it's your point that it's coming from below. It's a grassroots feeling. To that point, so I listen to this show that has Mark Halperin and Sean Spicer on it and every day they're talking about it. Not because they are particularly interested, but every day there's news made about it. The same thing with the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:33:43 They have a podcast in the morning and every day there's news made about it. The same thing with the New York Times, they have a podcast in the morning, and every day there's been something on the Epstein List. And again, not because they're particularly interested in it, but because every day there's actually news on it. Trump continues to make news on it. The influencers that are in Trump's orbit continue to make news on it. And until, I don't see this stopping,
Starting point is 00:34:02 until more information comes out, or until yes I'm actually addresses it in a way that will satisfy his base because Trump can do that He has that ability the news today just now about firing the prosecutor Isn't I don't think that's what people have been asking for me again in a way it raises more questions Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting, the Comey connection, all of that, super interesting. But why? And what's the explanation?
Starting point is 00:34:30 I don't think there was any explanation given. And so here we are again with an announcement that doesn't satisfy all the questions that people have. I do love this headline from Daily Mail. Anti-trans activist Riley Gaines turns on Donald Trump over refusal to release Epstein files. The other title they have was Trump's golden girl, Riley Gaines turns on him over Epstein files. Look man, it's just, you can't come out like Trump did
Starting point is 00:34:58 and basically bang a fist on the table for, you know, let me put it this way. Trump went to a rally in 2021. He said, get the Vax and they booed him. And they said, all right, well, you know, I ain't gonna make you get it, but me put it this way. Trump went to a rally in 2021. He said, get the Vax and they booed him. And he said, all right, well, you know, I ain't gonna make you get it, but I think it's good. And they booed and he moved on. Trump used to understand as much as the media
Starting point is 00:35:16 might say it's a cult, he knew he needed to rally this group of support to get their backing. Now with this post, it's like he's banging the table saying, don't you dare defy me. And it doesn't work. Yeah, but I think that it's because he feels that he's not getting credit for the scale of the results and achievements so far in his presence. I agree. He didn't ask for it.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah. If his post today was, like I said with I said with five I understand the frustration the anger trust me I am here for you and we are working on this and we are gonna get you the truth but look at these big beautiful victories let's not derail over this one issue let's work together then people would have been like yay it was like he posted the Superman meme like right after all this stuff leaked I'm like bro. This is the least Superman thing you could possibly ever do. My favorite was immediately after the backlash It's like he gets asked what's going on the Epstein he goes
Starting point is 00:36:15 I'm gonna take Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship away, and everyone's like what? Talking about like that would be funny if it was literally anything, but the Epstein files It would be funny if it was literally anything but the Epstein files. It would be funny if it was literally any other time than when we're actually perturbed. That feels like a disconnect from the seriousness of what we're talking about. When you're sidestepping like that, when you're turning it into jokes and making memes,
Starting point is 00:36:38 and then the rest of us who are kind of the ones who are on the receiving end of whatever policies you're enacting, see the seriousness of it. They're like, you're not taking this seriously. And to be fair to the base and to him is that usually that personality for him works very well. And his kind of disconnected approach to politics is something people find charming in a lot of ways. This is not one of those times. And also the other thing is that he's so the brilliant thing about him, which is I think
Starting point is 00:37:06 it's a big driver of why people love him, is he's so transparent about things usually. And you don't get the typical politician BS and, you know, circumnavigating the issue and he's incapable of not being like that's right. And every you know, he's very clear with his thinking just as he has been on ukraine and russia why he's changing and on everything it's what we're used to from him well then that's something that should make people ask questions why is it that you've behaved this way on literally every issue if you have nothing to hide why is your approach to this topic so drastically different than how you've approached literally everything else you've done in government.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Should I take the shoes down? I suppose you can wait for further. It was like the I was gonna wear my I was I was gonna wear my Bill Clinton shirt on the show one time. I was like, that's the day they'll drop the list and he'll be at the very top. I'll be like crap. You'll be like not a good day for a joke. I've got another actually just occurred to me because it's a really good question, is I wonder whether it's something to do with the people involved who he's just very, very, you know, fond of.
Starting point is 00:38:12 You know, Pam Bondi was, you know, on his defense team for impeachment. Akash and Dan were absolutely kind of right there, massive champions for him all the way through, totally loyal. And I just wonder if he's like, you're not, no, these are really my people and back off if there's an element of that. Some of those photos, Pam Bondi look like she's been having a rough time lately. I would not want that. She absolutely has been. Like she's like, she's aged 10 years and you can't quit.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You can't, you can't leave. Yeah. They're going to be like, no, because it would cause too much problems. So you have no choice. You stick around. Like the Bon Gino thing, they're not going to can't leave. Yeah, they're gonna be like no because it would cause too much problem So you have no choice you stick around like the bond Gino thing. They're not gonna let him leave You know, he walks out or whatever. Oh, you know to be honest, it's hard to know what to believe Because Dan does not come on come up Come off as the kind of guy who's gonna pull a PR stunt and pretend to leave or anything like that
Starting point is 00:38:59 Apparently he talked to Trump and then Trump convinced him to stick around. I think it would have been at you know I'm torn It would have been epic. You know, I'm torn. It would have been epic if Dan came out with a public statement saying, I'm not going to be part of whatever this is. Guys, I'm done. At the same time, I don't want Trump to lose. No, I think that's a joke. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Now that the Democrats are like all over it in a totally cynical way after having had no interest in any of this for years, I think it's incredibly important that we come out as a party and a movement on the right side of this. It's an interesting thought on that because it is one of those things where it's like their eyes are closed the whole time this is going on, but there have been elements of Trump's base and fans, or at least people who held their nose and voted for him, who have been adamant about the release of these files and the follow-up to this case for years.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And it just proves which side is actually approaching their, you know, their view on politics from a critical way, rather than team sport mentality, which is what so much of it is these days. Yeah, look, I mean, I don't know. There's not going to be anything that's going to fix this until Trump himself actually does just one It's just a list with one name and it's just Prince Andrew
Starting point is 00:40:09 Look, I don't I don't know what it is. But you know, I don't know what's actually going on There's a lot of people that'll swear up and down that oh, I know this and this is what it's got to be and you have To see it this way and etc. I don't have any inside information Obviously there was nefarious stuff going on but until Trump addresses it, it's not going away. I think we're winning. I think you know Trump has already tried walking it back. He's basically like, you know, release whatever's credible and now I think it was John Solomon is saying that Trump's gonna appoint a special prosecutor. That would be good. To continue the case.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And I do think there is a possibility the story is not nearly as grandiose as many people expect it to be. That all the blackmail stuff, we're all playing Sudoku, right? There's a bunch of pieces of information that were released and everyone said, this is the story that fits the best.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I guarantee you there's parts of this story that no one ever, people have never even considered considered and I'm sure some people may have exaggerated what may may be happening. I'm sure it's really really bad because we do have evidence suggesting this and you got someone in jail right exactly for it. Yeah and if Kevin Spacey is calling for transparency. Oh my god did you guys see Stephen King. Yeah. When he was like the Epstein list is real just like the tooth fairy in Santa Claus. And then I can't remember who posted it, but they were like, you criticize literally
Starting point is 00:41:30 every single thing Trump has done, and this is the one time you defend him? That's not suspicious, I don't know what is. Well, have you read his books? Yes. A lot of people don't know this, but Stephen King writes an awful lot about children being
Starting point is 00:41:45 raped and having sex. Like the book It, for instance, most people have only seen the movie. They don't know that for seemingly no reason, after the children, their children, defeat the evil clown, they are like, he literally, it's nuts. It's like, imagine the stories run like this. They defeated the clown and they cheered, let's all go home and celebrate. What a dangerous day. Then they took off all their clothes, the young girl placed herself up against the wall
Starting point is 00:42:13 and then he just graphically details child rape. That's the happy ending. And it's in the book. After they've defeated. And everybody's like, why did you write that? And he's like, it's a metaphor for losing your childhood or something. And they were like, why did you write that? And he's like, it's a metaphor for losing your childhood or something. And they were like, what?
Starting point is 00:42:29 And then he was like, but kids died in the book. And they're like, yeah, cause it's a horror, but like, and he's like, shouldn't that be worse? And it's like, bro, you, you wrote a chapter, like this whole graphic. And then you add that he's got other stories like this, mind you. And then Trump comes out and the one time he defends Trump
Starting point is 00:42:46 He's like yeah, there's no clients. What does that? What does that? What is anyone talking about? Oddly enough he doesn't realize that that is though that is the one crime that's considered unforgivable by all for all intents and purposes Like people get forgiven of murder all the time Nobody's get you know, nobody's getting forgiven of what he's talking about I mean they shouldn't be. Like if you're if you violate children, like there's a meme on the internet that I'm not going to say. But like, you know, there's a reason why people have such a strong emotional reaction to violating
Starting point is 00:43:13 children. Let's jump to this from the post millennial Trump supports appointing a special prosecutor for the Epstein files. Veteran journalist says good. Just the news founder, John Solomon, revealed to Bannon that he'd spoken with Trump well told him he was thinking about big issues let's play the tape. You did inform him that they're thinking about appointing a special a special counsel on this to take over this entire this entire investigation? Yeah and he's sounding it's a good approach let's just do it let's
Starting point is 00:43:37 get let's get the trust of the American people let's get accountability and then let's focus on the things that matter. So he is he's on board with the situation of getting a special prosecutor and having the Epstein situation put into that so that can be formally looked at. And he's legitimate. And he volunteered it by the way, Steve. I ask about the special, he immediately volunteers and then I follow up on it. But he immediately brings up Epstein, like just throw that in, let's get it all answered. I got nothing to hide.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I want truth and I want prosecutions. I just want the justice system to take care of what needs to be taken care of. It was really a remarkable moment. You know, the challenge I think for Trump right now is that he's dug himself in too deep. In order to get out of it, he's going to need a Patsy. Someone's got to get thrown under the bus and the expectation is going to be Pan Bondi.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I think he's been very clear that he's supporting it. I think that this is a way out if they do something like this. It's like, let's get it all out there. Yeah, but saying, I don't want your support. Yeah, that was bad. If he were to come out next week and say, I have been made aware that Pam Bondi had withheld information, leading me to make incorrect conclusions, and for this,
Starting point is 00:44:43 we will immediately be taking action and terminating or blah, blah, blah. Maybe. I don't get any sense that that's what he's saying. I don't think he'll do it. But I don't know how he recovers from saying, I don't want your support. There's gonna be a lot of people who'll say then you can never have it later.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I don't know about that. I think that people are just, look, there's a very kind of personal relationship with trying people. He's so transparent usually. I think people can see he's just really Annoyed about all this and that's the you know, the flavor of what he put out there I don't think I think that I agree that something needs to happen to be to get the transparency
Starting point is 00:45:16 And I think that is the way out of this and if he does that as we were saying earlier I think people will just move on and this isn't the time recently, like we were talking about the other day, when he swore during the during Israel and Iran and during the bombing and then he was getting really upset, he was losing his cool with people. Now, normally he's able to deflect with his own brand of humor in bombastic personality, but when you're swearing on live television, that doesn't inspire confidence for somebody who's supposed to be the supposed leader of the free world, right? So I feel like he's just taken some L's in the last, beyond this, with people questioning
Starting point is 00:45:52 why we were getting involved with that. And it just hasn't been as smooth sailing like you were saying. Maybe he feels like he's not getting the credit he deserves. And the average everyday person just like, I didn't put you in office to get credit. We put you in office to do things for us. That's your job, you work for us. Yeah, and I suppose his response to that would be, I am doing things, so let's focus on that,
Starting point is 00:46:14 and let's keep doing more things instead of this, which is in the past, and blah, blah, blah. I think that's his response. I think that's just the issue with being a little bit less polished as is his personality and having an ego and when you can't control it, it ends up hurting you. I mean, I assume so, but as for the pan for a special prosecutor, that would actually take the heat off for a while because then he can just refer to the special prosecutor
Starting point is 00:46:41 and people could say, you can say, look, we're looking into it. There's more information and obviously the people that are never gonna be satisfied are still not gonna be satisfied of course Because they're until they see the results that they have already decided are out there They will never be satisfied, but I think that a special prosecutor is probably the best thing he can do at least at this point You know I don't know that it'll help Republicans in the midterms. Yeah, so like are they going to be, is the idea that they appoint a special prosecutor but then once the midterm comes along, like look, you did this this long ago.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah, but I mean, I'm still of the opinion the important thing at the midterms is the economy. Oh, I was just about to say exactly that. It's going to be real things that affect your real life. And that was what people will vote on. And yeah, I think he understands that as well, but you can't get to talking about that if you've got this barrier in the way. You don't need to talk about that though. You don't need to experience it. Because that's just what people do. Look, if people go to... When it comes to midterms, Gen Z is probably not going to the polls anyways.
Starting point is 00:47:44 If we're being honest, Gen Z is not going to go and vote for the midterms, Gen Z is probably not going to the polls anyways. If we're being honest, Gen Z is not going to go and vote for the midterms. They just don't. Historically, they don't. Only maybe Democrats that are activists, Gen Z will, right? Otherwise, Gen Z doesn't go. It's going to be the Boomers and Gen X. They're going to be the ones that go to vote in the midterms.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And if they have, if they feel like the economy is okay and they feel like they're making money and they feel like their dollar is going further than it did two years ago, they are going to vote for Republicans. If they don't, then the Republicans are going to get trounced. You get a much lower turnout in the midterms. I mean, funnily enough, that is a big focus for me because in California, that's how I see my path to victory, which is actually getting a higher turnout than you usually get for people who really are fired up and want change in a real sense because everything
Starting point is 00:48:34 is so expensive in California. It's all a nightmare, highest housing costs, highest gas prices. And I'm out there with a plan for how we can fix that three dollar gas own your own home you know practical things and and that's my whole plan is like let's go out and vote for it and of course if you vote for me as governor you're also voting in the house races in California which by the way will make the difference because that's where most of the really close contests are. You gonna get that light rail finished in California? There was just a tweet that I saw about that a little while ago. What a joke.
Starting point is 00:49:11 What is it? Trump has just said, he just truth a few minutes ago, to the law abiding, tax paying, hard working citizens of the United States of America, I'm thrilled to announce that I have officially freed you from funding California's disastrously overpriced high speed train to nowhere. Fantastic, I'm actually seeing Sean Duffy tomorrow on the BNDC. Oh amazing. We'll talk about this and other things. But the federal money for the high speed rail
Starting point is 00:49:34 is actually the smallest part of it, so we still have to kill it in California. It's insane how much money is wasted in that state. Oh, they've doubled the budget of the state of California in the last 10 years, and everything is worse. Is California's like a factor? Is that how the politicians launder money?
Starting point is 00:49:51 It's like, just go to California, we'll give you state and federal funds and then do whatever you want. Yeah. I mean, and this is what we were just chatting about earlier. This is what you get in a one party state. It's been one party rule. I mean, it's not a one. I mean, that's actually more of a Republican state
Starting point is 00:50:05 than people think. Like the average share of the vote in California for Republicans in the last few years is 40% or so. I mean, that's not 50, but it's not 20. There's actually a lot more Republicans than people think. But one party rule where they assume that they're never gonna get challenged and they're gonna have it all their own way,
Starting point is 00:50:22 they get totally arrogant. They don't care what they do with the money because they assume they're never gonna have a challenge on the other side. All they pay attention to is their activists, their base, the unions that fund their campaigns, the trial lawyers that fund them, all of that. And they lose touch with real people. I mean, they drove Hollywood away. I know, there was a story. Canada.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Well, it's been Canada for a long time. They're driving away overseas. I know there was a story. They have not. They have all that. Well, it's can't spend Canada for a long time. They're, they're driving away overseas. We're there. There was a story farther and farther away a couple of weeks ago. Literally could Los Angeles become the next Detroit because of the collapse. So I'm there the whole time. There was like, okay, people who feel sorry for the movie stars. That's not what you worried about.
Starting point is 00:51:01 It's all the working class people who who support the industry the electricians and the People who build the sets and then make hair and makeup all of that I have all of that is and you got bars, right? One of my the first day of my campaign I made a specific point of going to this bar the pineapple hill saloon because she was the German that viral video of that when Gavin you some shut down outdoor dining and and except there were all these loopholes and this and this woman Angela Marsden she'd built this lovely outdoor patio to comply with all the stupid rules invested her own money
Starting point is 00:51:36 in it and then he just you know out of stroke shuts down outdoor dining the next day this lavish kind of canteen is built in her parking lot because it's some movie that they've got an exception. Anyway, I went there to make that point about the pandemic and accountability and the lockdowns. But one of the things that came out of that is like they're right there in Studio City, massive collapse in business because of the collapse of Hollywood. So there's so much impact from that. I remember Rob Lowe went on a podcast and talked about,
Starting point is 00:52:06 they film an American game show in Ireland, because they fly Americans to Ireland to film it in Ireland. The other one is cheaper to do it there than on a lot in California. Masterchef, right? I know Gordon Ramsay, I love that show. I watched it with my sons. You know, like they're there, it's Australia.
Starting point is 00:52:22 This season right now, we're in the middle of it, it's all in Australia. That's the way, like most of the movies that are being made today, they start filming in the UK because the tax credits are so much higher over there. I just want to give a quick shout out. You know I saw Superman, I thought it was really great. And we've got to give more credit to J.B. Johnson, lighting technician. I thought the lighting was fantastic. No one cares about all of these people
Starting point is 00:52:47 and the credits of all of these movies. And the credits roll, and the wave for the after credits scene. And it's just all of these names that may as well be pictures of cats as far as most people are concerned. So when we talk, you made the point, that's why I looked it up. Everybody's talking about, you know, Robert Downey Jr.
Starting point is 00:53:00 What is it getting, like 200 million for Doomsday or something? I think it's 100 million or something. 100 million? And then there's working class people who do hair and makeup and lighting and they get paid 20 bucks an hour. And when those films break down and leave because the state is mismanaged, working class jobs evaporate.
Starting point is 00:53:15 There's another really important point about this, which is that if you get into the details, like Gavin Newsom's talking about increasing the tax credits and whatever, but even the group that hands out the tax credits in California is that so kind of left and obsessed with you know They're kind of you know political priorities then even the support is not going to these big movies They're giving it to kind of you know small indie films, and we love what I want all films to be successful But is these big movies that employ a lot of people for a long time. So they got job security and they're there and they sort of they're against all of that and they're happy to see it disappear.
Starting point is 00:53:51 It's unbelievable. Let's jump to this story from the New York Post. Zoran Mamdani gets hero's welcome from Lefty Dems at AOC hosted breakfast in DC. Meanwhile, Democrat strategist says parties should pray long and hard for an effing depression in the United States. So I want to highlight this real quick just to point out, as mad as we all may be about Trump and the Epstein thing, I'm still like, I'll put it this way, I might get mad at my brother, but I'm not really that mad, like at the end of the day, he's my brother, you
Starting point is 00:54:23 know what I mean? The Democrats are psychotic, and so there's, look, Trump can say whatever he wants, I ain't voting for these people. I've heard this multiple times, who was the last person that said this just a couple years ago, saying like they were praying for depression? I mean, Bill Maher said it. Oh, it was Bill Maher that I'm thinking of, yeah. Yeah, not cool, Bill. Yeah, you should have mentioned that to him when you were there, were there He shouldn't like hey, so what about that depression? I mean true and a lot of people you know we're talking about like when I sat now with bill and
Starting point is 00:54:52 Politics was like with his with his show Club Random. It's general conversation So politics only comes in a little bit when and then he tries to change the subject mm-hmm, but I digress I respect him. I do I appreciate that. He you know I don't if you saw that John Leguizamo But I digress. I respect him, I do. I appreciate that he, you know, I don't know if you saw that John Leguizamo clip. I haven't seen it yet. Oh man, John Leguizamo's on Bill Maher's show
Starting point is 00:55:09 and he says, there's no left in this country. There's a center with a slight left and then far right. And Bill Maher is like, his brain explodes. He's like, what? John Leguizamo is a particular brand of crazy. Yes. It's like, how do you go further left than communist? But that kind of self-image, they don't even realize that sort of lack of self-awareness
Starting point is 00:55:32 is amazing. Yeah. I mean, there are people that say that like Warner Brothers and that CNN is now pro-Trump, they're like David Zaslav has turned CNN into a pro-Trump network. Who said that? That is the general sentiment you will see online. The type of person who says that there is no left in this country, there is a center and a far right, are the same people who say that CNN is now a pro-Trump network. You know, I'm going to pick on you, Jess.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I'm going to pick on Jess Margera, because I was tweeting at him earlier. He does have a really funny picture. I respect his profile pick on Jess Margera because I was tweeting at him earlier. He does have a really funny picture. I respect his profile picture on X. It's morbidly obese cash Patel. But he made this insane post where he said that Jeffrey Epstein was the largest donor to Pam Bondi. And I saw that and I'm like, that's just not true. And so I went on Chad GPT and I said, did Epstein fund Vondie and it, no,
Starting point is 00:56:28 that's not correct. That's never been correct. And then I posted the screenshot and he responds with, for those that are familiar, he's, he's like, you know, D-list celebrity. I'm not trying to be a dick. He's, he's in a band called CKY. They're in the new Tony Hawk game that just came out, the remake. And, uh, he posts open secrets.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And, uh, let me see if I can just find the image and show you exactly and I'm using this as an example of how the left doesn't know what the is going on in the world. He posts open secrets which tracks funding and it says like information organization unavailable and he uses that to imply that here we go let me pull this up. I got it I got it I got it I'll grab that, here we go, let me pull this up. I got it, I got it, I got it. I'll grab his tweet. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:57:09 This is your one of the mill lib on the internet. He says Epstein was Pam Bondi's biggest campaign donor as Florida Attorney General from 2011 to 19. When it's under that evidence lawsuits. He then said, why am I a better journalist than anyone in mainstream media and 90 seconds while wearing a pink Floyd pajama pants making coffee? And then he posted this. And then I think my response is in here. Where did he actually put what?
Starting point is 00:57:29 He's just a drummer in a band that has like a moderate degree of notoriety. But I highlight him only because this is what these people do. On the liberals. Did he completely make it up? Or did he misread the data? So let me show you. I posted this. There was no evidence or record that Epstein
Starting point is 00:57:49 gave money to Pam Bondi. He says, wait, I effed up. He was the second biggest donor, good eyebrow. And he highlights this from Open Secrets to Pam Bondi. Organization unavailable for these records, 436,000. Here's my point. What that means, organization unavailable, is that it's aggregate data from various sources. So there's no singular group and potentially due to privacy laws, they don't know exactly
Starting point is 00:58:16 where the individual donations are coming from. Because these people don't know anything, okay, they don't know anything't know politics. Homie, Jess Margera, says, Why am I a better journalist? It's he's afflicted by Dunning Krueger worse than I've ever seen. And so then I responded to him. I said, Brother, please, for the love of God, you are out of your depth. He's open secrets every day. Number two, you're highlighting as an aggregate of anonymous data due to aggregation, limited information. You could argue you think some of that is Epson, but there's no records. Just making it up.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I said, look, here's DeSantis. Did you know that DeSantis got $63.6 million from Organization Unavailable? I said, we got them, boys. Emily Randall of Washington got 214,000 from Organization Unavailable. I said, oh my God, it keeps happening. Epstein is everywhere. Lisa Forbes, Appellate Court, Organization Unavailable. I said, no, not Tony Evers,
Starting point is 00:59:11 the Democratic governor of Wisconsin. 1.1 million from Organization Unavailable. Here's my point. This is- By the way, nice job with that. Oh, I mean, but I'm open secrets all the time. And so what's frustrating is what liberals are. This this is why they vote socialist dude saw a meme somewhere probably that said Organization unavailable that's cuz it's Epstein and then he went yep, and then tweeted it out like oh
Starting point is 00:59:35 Why am I such a good journalist and this is what all liberals are like? Okay, I say all most This guy's got 23,000 followers. Okay, not the biggest personality, but certainly not a nobody and here he is every day He's posting insane cultish psychobabble and I'm like my dude, please. Okay. I'm a fan of CKY. I love the band I even invited him to come jam and like I will just show you anything you want to ask about and you're still allowed to Hate Trump, but this is what I mean about liberals. This is like John Leguizamo saying there's no left in this country They never even Google this stuff and then they go around saying I'm a better journalist than everyone else. I Think the best approach says if you don't have the time to like look into something just assume it's fake Because it's the internet just assume it's fake. I saw something today that said like cash Patel's girlfriend is a massage agent. I said yeah, you know maybe I have no idea
Starting point is 01:00:29 Wait, is that true? I have no idea that proves it. That's it must be Why am I a better why they covering it up? Yeah, right? Why are they covering up? That's thing though Like yeah, if you just go if you're on the internet You should assume that 90% of what you're looking at is Probably fake to raise their you know you know my favorite Internet meme is on the internet. No one knows you're 12. Yeah, there's a bunch of adult men on x right now furiously thumbing away on their phones being like you're stupid you like Trump you're so dumb and
Starting point is 01:01:03 They don't realize you're talking to a 12 year old. It was just going like, beep, beep, beep. Yeah. You see that a lot, especially when the responses are ridiculous garbage, like just pulled out of nowhere. It's 45 year old man, pro-Trump arguing with a 13 year old Democrat Not even Democrat just yeah Just no not even just 13 year old. Why don't watch the world burn that not even they don't know enough about the world to want It to burn at all They think it's funny because people are screaming on the internet and they can't do anything about it Mm-hmm, which is gonna make the future weird mind you like this generation grows up on the internet where they can say whatever they want
Starting point is 01:01:44 Whoever they want. What's that gonna be like? Yeah, I mean most of the time when I'm scrolling through threads and I see two people like passionately arguing with each other I'm like don't they have things to do? This is the thing sometimes I see I sort of put out my you know some policy thing or whatever and then you look a lot and they look at the replies and then it just goes on and on and they're having this endless debate to people I have no idea and it's gone way off point from whatever the first thing was Yes, it makes them feel using each other of being this or that and exactly that's what I think like what is this?
Starting point is 01:02:15 What are you getting from this? I suppose it gives them some sense of Fulfillment to sit there and argue with another person all that makes me feel like is like you're out in the middle of the ocean Screaming at nothing, which is a good reason not to do it, but people can't help themselves. Yeah. I mean, look, they're doing it because it makes them laugh. I mean, For the Laws is still just as meaningful
Starting point is 01:02:39 and current as it was 20 years ago. I'm not talking about the 13 year olds, I'm talking about the actual adults that sit there. Yeah, the adults that sit there and passionately argue. Well, people are emotional. And men are just as emotional as women, they're just emotional about different things. That's what the internet's for, it's for yelling at people, I guess. But I don't know that that's ever gonna change. No, no, no, it's baked into the way the internet works.
Starting point is 01:03:08 As long as there's internet anonymity and there are people that take things seriously, once those, you know, the paths cross of the S-posters and the people that are very committed to whatever topic is being discussed, look out. See, apparently Rosalurt's posted that 845, the House is set to vote. It's been confirmed Can confirm? I said the house is set to vote on a measure that would force the release of the Epstein files
Starting point is 01:03:32 it's probably real conness and it's funny because when I You know I do love about the internet is that most people know that I post things sarcastically to make a point but Most people watching the show no but Most people watching this show. No, no, no, no watching this show. Okay, fair enough corporate press has no idea So they've simultaneously written two stories the exact same time one is Tim Poole Insanely defends Trump's cover up of the Epstein case while simultaneously other outlets are writing You know even Tim Poole is slamming Trump over Epstein Because they can't understand sarcasm because they're one dimensional thinkers and they're probably NPCs.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And you shouldn't use tone indicators on the internet. It's bad. I agree with that. You should just allow people to not understand what you're saying. I mean, it's fun that way, I guess. By the way, can they even do this? Like, what's the resolution going to do? Just so long as it's not classified material, I think that they can at least pass it and say,
Starting point is 01:04:28 look, we tried. Possibly it's cover for the midterms. Look, we passed legislation, we said that we wanted it put out, and we don't have the ability to make him so. Apparently, Ro Khanna said that he and Massey have the votes to force a vote. They just need 218, he told me. So what happened was Ro Khanna's initial amendment would have forced the DOJ to publish graphic materials. It said any evidence must be made public in 30 days. And so at first, when I heard that Ro Khanna was saying we're gonna vote on publishing the files I was like hey let's go I support this.
Starting point is 01:05:08 The next morning I was wondering why Republicans voted no and I looked up the amendment and it said any evidence must be published I'm like well of course Republicans are gonna vote no on that. And so that's when I said this would require the publishing of all the graphic child materials on the DOJ website why they can't do that and all these libs started attacking me saying, you know, someone said spinning faster than an F5 or whatever. And then Ro Khanna agreed with me. Came on my show and said, we are not trying to do that.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Our understanding is they wouldn't have to, but you're right. We're going to amend this and make sure that's very clear. And I said, oh, OK, great. You have my support. So all of these libs came out desperately to defend a bad amendment that we don't want passed while I'm saying we do want the files released. So I hope this is, they are gonna put forward, Ro Khanna and Massey, I hope they put this one forward
Starting point is 01:05:55 and we get it. And you know what, if Trump's on it, then good, release it faster, I don't care. I am playing these games. Whatever this is, we need to put it to rest. It's like when like, there's a couple years years ago they put like something through that was like it was banning lynching and Right. And all of the Republicans voted no to the ban because there was a bunch of other stuff in the bill of course that was full of that would have been bad for everybody and they put no but then a bunch of people are like look at the Republicans say that they're okay with people being this is what they do it's inferior the California legislature the Democrats did something like this
Starting point is 01:06:30 where they've they blocked a bill from a Republican that would have made trafficking kids for sex a theory described a serious and violent crime that would have automatic jail terms they were embarrassed about the fact that they're on the wrong side of such an unbelievable issue so then they put in an amendment that that called for an Investigation into it or something and then they ran and then of course the Republicans voted against that because they wanted the real crime Then they ran ads against the Republicans saying
Starting point is 01:07:07 you are for child sex trafficking. It's literally the most cynical disgusting thing I've ever seen. But this is the game that they always play. Maybe we just need the United States as a republic to collapse and then Trump to rise up as the emperor and just whip this country in shape and bring the glory of the American Empire. I mean... I say things like this and then everyone laughs and then some journalist somewhere's like, there you are! And their fever is shooting right up his... There he goes again!
Starting point is 01:07:38 I don't endorse but I might not disavow. You know, I will say how weird it is to like... The way I talk on the show is largely how I talk to my friends. I'll make a joke and I'll say like, maybe Trump just needs to arrest all the Democrats and then take the country over as an authoritarian dictatorship. And then everyone's like, okay, we get it to him and they roll their eyes. But corporate press are so stupid that they're like, whoa, Tim wants Trump to be a dictator.
Starting point is 01:08:03 A lot of them. But I get it. Some of them are malicious. I would say like 80% evil, 20% stupid. Stupid and evil. Why not both? Yeah. Yeah. How do you say, por que no los dos?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Is that what it is? It's a taco meme. You guys remember that one? Remember? The little girl? No, I don't. You don't know the meme? No.
Starting point is 01:08:23 It's like a little girl, and they're like, do you want soft shell or hard shell? And she's like, why not both? Or something like that. And then it became a thing. OK, yes. Right now I don't. You don't know the meme? No. It's like a little girl and they're like, do you want soft shell or hard shell? And she's like, why not both or something like that? And then became that. Okay, yes. Right now I know it. Okay, no less does. Now I remember. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, well, I hope they get to it, I guess. We do got more news, my friends. Let's jump to the story from Eric Dardy says update a soft amnesty bill has been filed and as support of several House Republicans
Starting point is 01:08:45 It would allow illegal aliens who crossed the border before 2021 a pathway to stay and work legally They can get up to seven years of legal status with work authorization They need to pay restitution and check in regularly with DHS and the legal status could be renewed if there's good conduct Take it up. Take a look at this lot of Republicans are on board with this one h HR four three nine three crazy things. There's no articles about it Take a look at this. A lot of Republicans are on board with this one. HR 4393. Crazy thing. There's no articles about it. Nobody's writing about it, but it's here.
Starting point is 01:09:11 And they're calling it. There's articles that vaguely reference it, basically saying like a bipartisan immigration solution. It's a horrible idea. Yep. I've got so much to say about this, but think that when I've seen her talking about it, but maybe because they don't think it's got any chance of I've no idea. Well, let me let me ask you about California right Trump rated these pot farms Yeah, they found children on these fights child labor exactly now
Starting point is 01:09:40 slavery exactly Trafficking would you shut those farms down? Exactly. Trafficking. Would you shut those farms down as governor? You have to enforce the law. And this is the big point on all of this stuff in California is on so many issues, they just don't enforce the law. They pass all these laws, got way too many laws, but they never enforce them.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And so you see that on crime, on retail theft, all that stuff, homelessness, right? It's illegal to camp on the streets and now with immigration. And this child let, you know, not that long ago, Gavin Newsom was screaming one of his like, you know, trolling posts I saw at Republicans, I think in another state who were talking about working class kids getting jobs in construction or whatever it is, work experience, you know, and like kids should get real work experience and apprenticeships and whatever. He, Gavin Newsom, called it child labor. Republicans are now the party of child labor.
Starting point is 01:10:37 While it's going on in his state and now he's defending it. I, I, I, we've, we talked a bit about this. These, these kids are, they were illegal aliens. And so the question then is, do you think these underage miners, these miners, came to the United States of their own volition? No, of course not. And do you think they chose to work on a marijuana farm? No, I mean, the whole thing is so obscene
Starting point is 01:10:59 that they're now taking that side just to get at Trump and pander to the base about fighting the fascist army and all this. I covered during the drought in the, I think 10 years ago was actually, I covered the drought. I went and did a couple of documentaries on the story, so many docs, and I met with a bunch of farmers and I talked to them. Certainly not anyone was championing illegal immigration, not that we have met. However, there is a concern that many of these farms in California are employing
Starting point is 01:11:30 illegal immigrant labor under the table. Do you think they're going to lobby against you and try and stop your bid? So I'm a huge supporter of the ag industry. The Democrats are trying to crush the ag industry. It's the biggest and greatest in the world. You know, we have so much of the world production of actually, by the way, healthy food, right? Not the stuff that, you know, high fructose corn syrup. I met the cows. Okay, I got exactly like real good, you know, fruit, nuts, produce, all of that stuff. That's what we do in California.
Starting point is 01:11:59 It's amazing. And the Democrats are crushing the industry by taking away the water and whatever. This point about the workers is really, really important to get, you know, get down. And the industry is big supporter of mine. I've spent a lot of time in the Central Valley, the other parts of the state where we grow things. The argument is this industry cannot function without illegal immigrant labor. And it's true that you got a high proportion of illegal immigrant labor. And everyone knows it's going on. got a high proportion of illegal immigrant labor and everyone knows it's going on I talked to people who you know they send
Starting point is 01:12:30 in the stuff to the Social Security Department every year and every year it comes back these are fake IDs nothing happens it's all just part of this total collapsed trust in the system everyone knows it's not working but no one wants to do anything about it but here's the big thing no one is talking about. As well as having a high proportion of illegal immigrant labor in the farming industry, we've got millions of people in California, Californians, citizens who are not working. Right? If you look at the labor force participation rate in California, it's historically low. I just ran the numbers. It's hard to be precise, but roughly two and a half million to three million people in California
Starting point is 01:13:09 Adults working age adults are not working. They're on welfare. We're paying them not to work you talk about dairy I was just in a dairy farm the other week. You got the guys they're working in the dairy Not well paid but you know full- job, working hard, they all tell me their girlfriends get paid more than they do for not working. And they're still their girlfriends, so they're not going to get married because then they lose some of their money. So you've got, you're getting paid more for not working than actually doing these ag jobs. I think this is a great thing to point out too that it is good healthy food out of California.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Like I was saying, the dairy farms, I was actually surprised based on all of the leftist propaganda about dairy to see how the dairy farms operate in California. And it's one of my favorite stories. I went to a farm, we were interviewing people about water because they were drilling tens of thousands of feet into the ground for groundwater. And we just like knocked knocking on some guys door and he came out and we were like, hey We're some journalists where we're doing a story on the drought and the groundwater drilling We're wondering if you want to tell us your thoughts. He's like, oh, yeah for sure Interviewed him. It was very enlightening afterwards. I noticed that his dairy farm had no fences and
Starting point is 01:14:21 The cows were all there just eating grain or whatever and then I was like, hey I got a question like you've got no fences on your property, right? And he eating grain or whatever. And then I was like, Hey, I got a question. Like you've got no fences on your property, right? And he's like, yeah, no. And I was like, but you got all these cows, you have like hundreds of cows. He's like, Oh, yeah. And I was like, aren't you worried they'll leave? And he just goes, where would they go? And I was like, I don't know, like they're gonna wander off. And he's like, where? He's like, I don't know what you mean. There wander off." And he's like, where?
Starting point is 01:14:45 He's like, I don't know what you mean. There's water and there's food, they ain't going nowhere. And I was like, I never thought of that. And he's like, yeah, till the cows come home. And then I was like, oh, wow. And the milking machines are automatic. It was like the cows wanna be milked because it hurts. It's painful.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Yeah, they walk into the machines. Also they get showers when it's hot. I mean, they really, look, the idea that farmers don't want to treat their animals well. It's just ridiculous. But the thing I just want to say on the workers is very, is a very simple point, right? Before we start importing illegal work workers, why don't we get the people who are there Americans, Californians in my case, that's what I'm focused on, who who could be working but are not working and we're paying them not to work why don't we start with trying to get them working before we declare a labor shortage yeah
Starting point is 01:15:34 that's I think the central bit of this that isn't being addressed we are paying people not to work so I mean back to this amnesty bill I think that this is actually more dangerous for the Republicans and for for MAGA than Epstein. And Epstein to be honest with you as much as Epstein is a real significant problem and needs to be addressed if they pass amnesty considering how many Americans voted based on deporting illegals if they pass an amnesty I think many Americans voted based on deporting illegals. If they pass an amnesty, I think that'll do it do in the Republicans. And the fact that it's apparently been sponsored by a Republican. Yeah, I mean, another thing I'll just say on this, I mean, because I've spent a lot
Starting point is 01:16:18 of time on it. I'm a legal immigrant. We've been here since 2012, became a citizen in 2021. But I'm on the road the whole time in California. I spent a lot of time with legal immigrants, Latinos in East LA, a lot of time there. That's the biggest county in the country. It's a huge part of how I see the path to victory working class, Latinos in California, Latinos largest group now, they are fed up with what's going on. and you sit down, I've done it, you can people watch the video, I put everything on video for my campaign, you can see that Steve Hilton X, the way the
Starting point is 01:16:54 legal immigrants talk about this issue is as hardcore as you'd get from Stephen Miller and it's we came here the right way we spent whatever you know this many years going through the system doing the bureaucracy paying our taxes yeah being above board and now you have these people um and they see them in the grocery store with you know ebt cards this is what free cell phones housing vouchers better no it would be better to leave them alone It would be better to leave them alone and not pass this bill than to pass this bill. It's better to have illegals in the country that don't have amnesty that could get picked up for moving violations for whatever, what have you, than to actually pass an amnesty bill.
Starting point is 01:17:40 This is the worst possible policy they can... Also, it's reinforcing this totally, you know, collapsed faith in the system. Like, yeah, we agree. We're just going to tolerate law breaking on a massive scale. We're giving up as a country any kind of attempt to have order in the system, and we're just going to go with the flow and the impressive thing about Trump and is is he's addressing some of these things that have been left to fester for so long and you've got like it's just you've got to have a system where you actually believe in it and enforce the law and and actually one of the things I think is just very clear and impressive about what
Starting point is 01:18:25 they're doing. You see these, I mean in California they're on radio and TV the whole time, these ads, Christina Ome, illegal immigrants, you know, we're going to help you get back to your home. Here's $1,000 and if you do that you can come back in the right way but if you don't and we remove you, you're never coming back to right way. But if you don't, and we remove you, you're never coming back to the US. I think it's a trick. I don't believe the DHS for a second.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Just go home for now, refile, I'll let you come back. No, once you're out the door, they lock it. I'm pro-immigration, right? I'm an immigrant. I'm an immigrant twice over. You talk about communism, right? My parents are Hungarian. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:19:03 They fled communism in Hungary. And so, of course, I'm pro-immigration. They fled communism in Hungary. And so of course I'm pro immigration. I've benefited from it twice over. But, and I think Americans are, but they can't stand this chaos and disorder. And, and I, so I think that to me that makes total sense, right? So I mean, go come back the right way. And then maybe there is, you know, look, if we have a booming economy and we have full employment and all those millions of people I talked about earlier, we do get them off welfare and into work and we still have a labor shortage, great, then let's do it. So I'm a little more hardline on immigration.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I think immigration, we should stop immigration, all immigration for five years to a decade just because of the how many people have immigrated here. And if this were to pass, if that bill were to pass, then absolutely you must stop all immigration. No one comes in from anywhere at all. If you look at the pressure on housing, and again it's the poorest communities that lose out, right? Immigrant communities, right? Where the public schools are just completely overwhelmed, you know, the health system, housing I mentioned,
Starting point is 01:20:05 you know, these are, we aren't at, we're not keeping up the provision of infrastructure and services and whatever with the numbers of people, that is true. Yeah, and it's also, in my opinion, it's also a matter of assimilation. You have to, we've had real significant problems with the way that, with what children are taught and young people, part of the reason why young people feel the way they do about the United States is because of the teachers and because of the curriculum in the schools. We have to change, we have to manage to change the curriculums in the schools of education, take all the Marxist garbage, get rid of all the colonial theory get rid of france fannon get rid of
Starting point is 01:20:47 What's his name? I? Want to say frary palo frary take get rid of all of pedagogy of the oppressed and all that crap get all that garbage out Teach children in that that in a way that is not ideologically motivated So that way you have a genera- you stop creating generations of children that hate America. I want to pull up this clip from the ESPYs. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Shane Gillis. Check this joke out.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Donald Trump wants to stage a UFC fight on the White House lawn. The last time he staged a fight in D.C., Mike Pence almost died. You don't have to do that. It was fine. I didn't write it. Actually, there was supposed to be an Epstein joke here, but as it got deleted, it must have probably deleted itself, right? Probably never existed, actually.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Let's move on as a country and ignore that this is a country and move on very this is live on ABC this is an Epstein joke good and everyone's laughing there's no getting away from this yeah that's a good that's a good thing to have played that's right I do want to at least add this as an aside before we talk a bit more about it. Here you go. When Caitlin Clark retires from the WNBA she's going to work at a Waffle House so she can continue doing what she loves most, fist-fighting black women.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Anyway, Shane Gillis is amazing. And I think they tried canceling him. They did cancel him. But, you know, here he is on ABC live dropping this joke about Epstein. Maybe he deleted himself. Maybe it never existed. As a country we just move on and act like it never happened. There's no getting away from this.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I don't know what the strategy is going to be on the Trump admin side, but this is, shout out to Shane Gillis, funny. I mean, every time one of these controversies come up, I remember like the H-1B visa controversy came up and everybody was arguing about that. That felt very terminally online, whereas something like this is as mainstream as it gets and you can't get away from it.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Thanks to the podcast circuit, basically. These topics are talked about on Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan still gets millions and millions of views. They're talked about, you know, throughout, just like the Andrew Schultz stuff, you know, he was talking about it as well. These things are more than just talking about crimes or whatever, they're part of pop culture now, so.
Starting point is 01:23:23 You know, for good or ill but i mean look man i like shane gillis's jokes he's funny he's always been funny in my opinion but is is there something in this with shane gillis like they fired him for messing out right because like didn't didn't he do like an asian accent or something yeah hired and then they like i thought it was he said something untoward i I don't remember what it was like 2022 right like Oh, I think it was way before then basically he made a joke the guy was coming on after him was offended by the joke Because it's about so he got hired and then before he even appeared on air they they yeah 2019 okay 2019 and then he he got his revenge by getting to eventually come and host the show after they yeah
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah, he said what did he what did he, he disparaged Asians of some in some way. I don't know. 2019 was a dark time for comedy. It was a dark time for existing. Jeez. Like the cancel cultures. I wasn't, but, but it, but it, this is a tremendous sign of victory in the culture war in that he is now hosting ABC live and he's making jokes about Epstein. You know, I think is really crazy is I'm imagining Mike Cernovich files this lawsuit to get some of the Epstein stuff released from this defamation case and it was a conspiracy theory at the time. Alex Jones had talked about Epstein for years and they told him he was nuts and now on stage
Starting point is 01:24:41 mainstream television it is a joke. We know it's true. I mean, we're winning, huh? Yeah, it does show how the culture's moved. I do feel like there are a lot more people that are just comfortable saying things as opposed to people that have different opinions, right? So I don't think there's been a lot of,
Starting point is 01:25:01 there are some people that are like, okay, the woke stuff has gone too far for me, but I feel't think there's been a lot of there's there are some people that are like, okay The woke stuff has gone too far for me But I feel like mostly it's people that would have said this stuff ten years ago seven years ago But they were afraid and now other people have kind of broken down that that barrier and said look you can say this stuff without getting Getting a cost on the internet anymore And so now I mean you're never gonna get away from that. Like that's like people think that they're, we're gonna go back to a time that never existed, which is the age of ultra connectedness with your phone
Starting point is 01:25:32 and being able to say whatever you want. You could say whatever you want when you had a friend group of people who believe things the way you did, who gave you the benefit of the doubt because they know you're a good person. Let's hope you're a good person. It was never a time, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:43 as soon as you got your phone in your pocket was like 2012, 2013. It only took a couple of years for the people who use their ability to be offended as like a power to kind of silence people. That's never going to go away. You've just been able to minimize it by people just having less power over them by saying, I don't care. It just took time. It was like a callous that had to kind of callous people. It's a real, I mean, a massive change for the better in the last few years. I agree. And it's actually not the I mean, Trump's victory, I think is really turbo charged it. Well, I think the victory is when he's winning turbocharged
Starting point is 01:26:17 or in for turbocharged it. But I think that part of the reason why I got so intense in the first place was because Donald Trump got elected and the left was just like oh my goodness. I disagree I think when I was when I was covering Trump's campaign in 2015 what I heard mostly from young people was the reason I liked Trump was because he was fighting political correctness. Yeah. The concern was wokeness and cancel culture had already gotten to a point and I think Trump is an avatar of a lot of the outrage from people. Those who were sick of political correctness, those who are sick of the establishment elites gutting their livelihoods
Starting point is 01:26:56 and things like that and Trump represented a lot of what Bernie did in this populist outrage but at least he had some strength behind what he was what he's on. It's interesting, I mean, I always think we forget that in that first Republican debate, with where Trump kind of completely crushed everyone, and there's that first question from Megyn Kelly about how he used to speak about women, and everyone remembers the jokey answer he gives about Rosie O'Donnell. Only Rosie O'Donnell. Right, but then actually if you listen to the rest of his answer, it's really thoughtful and Specifically talks about political correctness and how it's gone too far
Starting point is 01:27:31 And it means that we're not telling the truth about things and I want to change like a really good answer on why political Correctness is wrong. Yeah Indeed we've come a long way though Shane Gillis not only his back, he's like the biggest. It's crazy. He's like the guy. That's wild. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Did he bring Bud Light back from the brink? I don't know. He did. Well, no, but he tried. He tried. I'm sure they backed up the money trunk to him. Hey, good for him, man. You know, listen, people on the Bud Light thing were willing to sacrifice UFC over it.
Starting point is 01:28:07 And not everybody, I'm just saying like, when UFC took the sponsorship, Dana White's like, I'm getting a bucket of money. And I'm like, isn't this what we want them to do? To beg for our forgiveness? And dump hundreds of millions of dollars into things we like? Dude, UFC fighters are about as base as they come.
Starting point is 01:28:22 So I was happy to see it. Shane Gillis, the canceled comedian doing Bud Light commercials, I'm never gonna drink that piss water, you know. But good, take their money. I mean, that's the idea, right? They've never recovered. Like, in capitalism is that you tell them what you want
Starting point is 01:28:35 and if you, you know, stop purchasing their product for whatever reason, that gets them to supposedly change their behavior. Indeed. They've never recovered though. No. No. To be fair I'm pretty sure Bud Light still is like I don't think it's a top beer anymore I don't know what ranks anymore but it used to be number one it was
Starting point is 01:28:53 like the V beer now it's like number 10 or something which is wild. They lost a lot of market share and again it part of the reason why is because it's so easy to go with something else like if you're going to the bar if you're walking up to the bar and you're like oh can I get a bug a Coors Light you know it's so easy to go with something else. Like if you're going to the bar, if you're walking up to the bar and you're like, oh, can I get a bug, a Coors light? You know, it's so easy. It's, it's not. Yeah, it's so awful.
Starting point is 01:29:11 It's permanently part of the brand. Yeah. Like, you know, so a couple beers. Whatever they've done to try and clean it up. The brand association is the woke stuff. I like Blue Moon. I like yingling. If I go and I have a beer,
Starting point is 01:29:24 which is extremely rare and usually doesn't happen. But ifling. If I go and I have a beer which is extremely rare Usually doesn't happen, but if I do I know that I want if I'm in the East Coast and get a yingling I'm getting a yingling. There's no substitute. There's like I love that one and Blue Moon if I can't get yingling The Blue Moon is good, but there's not much else. I want to drink Bud Light. It's like Shuffle them in a bag shake them up and tell I don't I don't know which one's different It's all piss water until Aunt Jemima is back on the bottle. I will not acknowledge Shuffle them in a bag, shake them up and tell them, I don't know which one's different. It's all piss water. Until Aunt Jemima's back on the bottle, I will not acknowledge the culture that we've
Starting point is 01:29:49 lived with. Can we just take Aunt Jemima? I mean, like they abandoned the logo, didn't they? I'm assuming they held on to the copyright. Why though? Yeah. Maybe, look, see this behind me? This image of the Tim Cass skate company.
Starting point is 01:30:06 And that image used to be associated with a company called Independent Skate Trucks. It was an iconic skate image for 50 plus years. And then they got accused of being racist because it looks like an iron cross. It's not, it's like a Maltese cross or something. Carats across. And so they removed it from all of their products
Starting point is 01:30:23 on their website and abandoned the logo. And I immediately took it, it's's mine now and I've had that board there for years no joke and we sell boards with that logo on it and that's what that's what hey that that image people have tattooed on their chest it's orange mine's blue but they tattooed it so maybe we just need to take ancient mama just do it and then again and then if they sue us I'll be like can you get they have asserted the right, how about we make a... It's not just Ben's isn't it?
Starting point is 01:30:49 Yeah, can you get Uncle Ben's too? Why don't we sell maple flavored stir-fried rice called Uncle Ben's and Aunt Jemima's? I think that if you got the bottle... Can we make them a couple? Copyrighted the bottle. You could definitely, exactly, you could get cousin T to actually ship a bottle with every box of cousin t That sounds like a good idea Ship a box of what ship a box of cousin to anytime he sells a box of cousin teas pancake mix
Starting point is 01:31:15 Yeah comes with a a small bottle of the cell syrup. He's got cousin tea syrup. Does he that's why I was confused I was like, what do you mean? I didn't know that he's I have like 12 bottles of that stuff. Okay, I do. Well, they're good. I've got like five he's got all these different cousin teases. Fantastic. We've got like cinnamon bun. I think we've got protein. There's a gluten free ones made out rice. We got a bunch of it. It was a dark time. Then they took the land of lady off to I kept the land look at kept the land POC representation is entirely gone in the grocery store chef Barty is still there Quaker Oats guy is still there White guys white guys even attend the Italian mr. Clean still there white guys. Yep. They removed all the my standards Yeah, they removed all the minorities the the Taco Bell duck gone. Yeah I think him leaving pre dates all this. I know I'm being honest No, Mexican dog selling tacos. We can't have it, especially not those americos that Taco Bell says that's not Mexican food. I Heard a story that Taco Bell tried Taco Bell slander Taco Bell tried opening restaurants in Mexico and they marketed as American food
Starting point is 01:32:24 And then nobody wanted it. Is that right? That's what I was told. So it was on the internet, it must be true. Exactly. I don't care what anyone says, TACO BELL is American food, it is not Mexican food. It's not cheddar cheese, hard shell tacos. That's America. And come on, is there no more sign of the end of days than the Doritos Locos taco?
Starting point is 01:32:43 Every time you order them I take five and I'm like putting them in my bag. And the way you order them, we do. The cheesy gordita crunch with the nacho cheese. I'm just like, we're done. You're speaking my language, man. Imagine going back to like the King of France, you know, King whoever in the 1500s and being like this is food. He takes one bite and he's like, oh, they're not.
Starting point is 01:33:06 They're not the most delicious thing you would ever taste. They're not ready for that intense flavor. No, you can't imagine it. It is kind of funny that I fought wars over pepper, dude. Yeah. It's estimated like between 50 and 60 thousand people died fighting for peppercorn from India. And it's just like we have it sitting on tables. We don't even use it I just I would love I would love this to see it. However, it's not possible. But however a medieval European king tasting Taco Bell and then me being like It takes almost no no money The poorest people have it and you can have it whenever you want anytime. They'd be like my I mean I might go to go to war for Old Bay
Starting point is 01:33:47 Old Bay's good. Yeah, yeah like that old I was uh I was having a shout out to mother shuckers in Martinsburg You guys should definitely go check them out mother shuckers mother shuckers It's a seafood place in Martinsburg, West Virginia and right when you walk up, you know, the first thing you see on the doors Mm-hmm big FJB. I Know it's not as relevant today. And a Trump flag. And then there's a, it's very, very pro Trump.
Starting point is 01:34:10 So I'm like, if you're, if you want to support a business, but they have Gold Bay. And I was like, what's Gold Bay? And they were like, honey and Old Bay. Okay. And I was like, that sounds awesome. Just sent a gold link to my girlfriend. Like we're going. Apparently I'd mentioned them on the show like a year or so ago or something. I can't
Starting point is 01:34:27 remember when. Is that when you went? And then they told me, they were like, hey, by the way, like tons of people came in saying that you recommended them. I was like, oh, it's great. I went, we went there today and I had scallops and chicken wings. Where can you get both at the same time? Right, right at the border. That's awesome. Chicken wings are so good. I was trying to find a way to squeeze in shouting them out and I did. He mentioned the old man, I was like, I got you. But they were super nice to me, as I said, I'd shout them out and they're great.
Starting point is 01:34:51 And they're super close, so we'll probably end up eating there a lot. We're gonna go to your chats and rumble rants. So smash the like button, share the show with literally everyone you know. When you go to Mother Shuckers and you're buying those delicious chicken wings, tell them, are you guys gonna put Tim Kest IRL up on the TV at night come on? What are you guys doing? He shouted you out?
Starting point is 01:35:10 Everybody you know even people you just met But we're gonna have that we're gonna have that uncensored members only show coming up at rumble.com slash Tim cast IRL But for now, we'll just grab your chats and have you guys join the conversation Shane H Wilder always with the first rant, he says, someone told me Trump is just playing 4D chess with the Epstein list. Look, I like Trump in Votiform three times, but this is idiotic and destroying the base.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Just be blunt and say what's going on. Agreed. And with this many days in a row, it'd be like 9D chess by now. We wouldn't even be on 4D chess anymore. Ninth dimensional. He's veering off into the multiverse. Yeah. It's the way off into the multiverse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:46 It's the way that it goes. All right. Bill Dozier says, the limited prosecutions were the cover-ups. Independence, like myself, are not happy with the approach from Trump. And that's why they're playing a dangerous game when Trump is basically like,
Starting point is 01:35:59 or Mike Davis says, go ahead and don't vote. Well, you'll see what we can. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah, a bunch of moderates are gonna be like, okay, and then you're gonna lose an election. Exactly. It's not okay. It's like the people for me. It's like the artists California. It's like the artists who say you don't like my politics. Don't buy my work. Okay, like I'm looking for any excuse not to buy your crap. Like you're like a like an artist or like somebody who's selling
Starting point is 01:36:23 you a product. The politician should be constantly trying to win your business You know so like my politics look go look at the politics of someone else and all that remains And you'll probably find someone you like so it's not has JD said anything about it JD I don't think so about 28 and all of that I've meant So Nintendo announced the cast of the live-action Zelda movie for which the biggest problem is link never speaks So they needed a they need to find a young man to play the role of Link who can go, yeah, and that's it. They'll probably pipe the audio in after the fact.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Right, yeah, just, he says nothing. But the funny thing is the top trending story at the time was Hunter Schaefer, a trans woman, because all the woke activists wanted this person To play Zelda and they were trying to make it happen My there was ever is up is you know my attitude on all this stuff is I? Don't care if if they said they wanted a hunter Schaefer a man to play the titular female character of the series I would say oh, okay I'm not gonna go see it. I don't whatever like do whatever you want to do
Starting point is 01:37:23 I don't care Nintendo wants to make money This was going to happen and so my lucky didn't end up being Jack Black They people it was there were some really funny posts where they were like the legend of Zelda with Scarlett Johansson as Zelda Pedro Pascal is link I had Jack Black as Ganondorf I'd like a top five of like the worst combinations is like Chris Pratt and Millie Bobby Brown and Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey. If it was 10 years ago, that's what you would have gotten. Anyway, my point was when these Trump people are saying, go ahead, don't vote, see if we care,
Starting point is 01:37:54 there's gonna be a lot of people being like, okay. Like, right on, do your thing, Trump. Say whatever you want. I'm not gonna vote for it, I'm not gonna buy it. You know what I mean? To be fair, I am for Democrats, so. I'm not gonna vote for it. I'm not gonna buy it. You know what I mean? To be fair, I vote Democrat, so that's not gonna happen. Yeah, I can't. I could never vote for Democrats. So for me, it'd be either just don't vote or, well, yeah, it'd be either, it'd be just don't vote. So.
Starting point is 01:38:17 I hope Ro Khanna and Massey get this through. I think it'd be fantastic, so long as they've corrected it. I appreciate that Ro Khanna was bringing it up. I think it's a good thing. Not that I trust Democrats, right? Yeah, but I know him. He's a good guy. I'm glad he engaged with you and did something, you know, and it worked. And he changed. Yeah. Yeah, we had him on the show. He's sincere, and I think he might be the only sincere Democrat. I mean... Anybody? Any names? I'm hoping. I I know him I like him I agree with yeah
Starting point is 01:38:48 I think of the Torres I think it's sincere Richie Torres okay yeah he's one of the he was one of the first people one of the first Democrats after the election to say look we got to stop this walk stuff you know the thing about Rode Connor by the way it's really interesting and it's so separates him is that even when he's criticizing Trump or the Republican Party or any of anything, he never does it in a bad faith kind of way where he's demeaning Trump or his supporters. He's always respectful. Tactful.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Trump supporters always. It's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know who gets a bad rep? Adam Schiff. He also, is he getting indicted or just and he also he deserves it. Yeah. You don't mean finish. Is he get he's he's just being investigated right now. They
Starting point is 01:39:34 haven't they haven't actually indicted him yet. I mean he was he he was listing Maryland as his primary residence while repping California. And his kids were going to school in Maryland. Like come on dude, you're not, you know, this is probably why he's like, Trump better get impeached because he'll actually come after me. So whatever man, he should be charged for that stuff. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Them says baseball signs, tap right forearm, bring in the righty, bring in Gates. Yep. arm bring in the righty bring in gates yeah I mean I don't I don't imagine that gates would have a an easier time getting confirmed by the Senate how do we make baseball more popular I don't know but it's great baseball movies is it not popular it's not as popular as it was they were just talking about how like all the pitchers are turning down the all-star game because they only get like a couple days off so they don't want to do it anymore because it's they want the four days rest instead of pitching during the game It's a shame. You gotta make baseball great again
Starting point is 01:40:32 Yeah Baseball is it so fun the number one sign of cultural decline that I've seen is like driving by our baseball fields you return It's cricket by us. I'm like when you lost the terrorists won cricket cricket this Don't blame me. I don't know what a crump it is to understand cricket. I'm Hungarian, OK? Don't lay the England thing on me. England thing.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Cricket. Wasn't there some story recently where like a dude died playing cricket in the UK or something? He got hit with a bat. Was it hit with a ball, I think? Is that what it was? No air conditioning. No air conditioning.
Starting point is 01:41:07 He died on the way to the hospital. Okay. What's up with the UK and no air conditioning? No, no, it's insane. I was just there actually and it was so hot and that was the literally what we were all of us who came from. It was like a friend's big kind of anniversary birthday party thing. Everyone who came from America's like, that was the question. Like what is going on? The airport, you arrive at the airport. It's unbelievably hot. Inside the airport.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Yes, why? Crazy, because there's no air conditioning. I suffer. I was invited to speak at an event in the UK and they booked me a hotel and it was like an inn. So it was a three story building. And my room was the third story. And it was literally, I'm not kidding,
Starting point is 01:41:49 102 maybe 100 degrees. And I went in the room and I was like gonna throw up from the heat and the humidity. And so I went to the desk and I was like, I'm sorry, I have to go to sleep right now. It was like seven o'clock. I was like, I'm speaking at an event. It's gotta be at least 100 something degrees upstairs.
Starting point is 01:42:04 And they were like 100. And I was like, I have speaking at an event. It's gotta be at least 100 something degrees upstairs. And they were like, 100. And I was like, I have no idea what the equivalent is in London speak. And I was like, it's just unbearably hot. And they're like, okay, we'll see what we can do. We'll find a fan or something for you. And then I was like, while they're doing that, I'm gonna take a lukewarm bath.
Starting point is 01:42:22 The only problem is there's two faucets, not one. And so one's hot, scalding, boiling water pouring out, and one's ice cold. And then I'm like, how do I figure out if it's going to be the right? I'm going like this back and forth. I didn't know that. And so I just turned them both on full blast. And then when I went over and touched it, it was, it was, I swear it was boiling. And I was like, this country, this country is backwards. Well, now you know why I left and moved to America. But then I go I was just back there we had exactly the same experience,
Starting point is 01:42:48 not the bath thing but like it was in the room we had this is just now just this weekend and my wife and I were like what what is this it's and there's the tiny little fan that we found like hidden away in one of the cupboards and like just really weak and pathetic fan. My biggest pet peeve... Just so bad. My biggest pet peeve about the UK is when you're on tour in a band, the buses don't have generators on them so you have to plug in. So if you can't find a place to park up for the day off and it's in the summer, there's no air conditioning on your bus. And then you're sleeping on a bus with
Starting point is 01:43:23 10 other dudes and all you smell is feet and breath and fart. It's a Feet and breath and fart the air was out in the PCC studio yesterday It was like rough. It was like what our in 45 Yeah over there in like an hour and 45 minutes in Mary's like sent me a message on slack It's like can we call it like I'm dying? What had they get it fixed it fixed it? The our AC in the so we have a massive AC unit for the big space It's hard to it was blowing hot air and I was I was skating I was like why am I hot and I felt it
Starting point is 01:43:53 And it was I'm like oh come on guys You know someone's got to come in and fix the AC. We're Americans here man Oh, they're capitalist Americans who like cold air. That's right Apparently it was because we have the soundproofing in there and it's trapping all the air and it's not making it in there. So the... It was your fault. It was our fault.
Starting point is 01:44:09 So now we have to like, we have to take the soundproofing down at night for the entrances. You can't just prop it up with a chair or something? Well, no, because they're hanging. So we have to take them down off the wall. The ones that are, because they're at the... They just clip on? Yeah, they just clip on. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:44:23 That sounds so bad. All right. Let's see. R.O. Max says, Gen Z can't afford a house. They were fed chemicals as kids. They most likely have chronic illness and come from a divorced home. Accountability is key, but Epstein isn't solving those issues. And I do agree with that.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Just the Trump camp needs to articulate that better. Seriously, if they came out and if Bongino came out on day one getting in, walked outside to the podium and said, I know everybody wanted Epstein files We don't got him. I don't have a good answer for you. I'm sorry but Let's not get bogged down and try and focus on how we can improve the lives of the American people Jen Z you know Fix this country secure our borders if they actually leveled with people and it's and it felt authentic
Starting point is 01:45:03 I think he'd be way more forgiving. Yeah, one of the things they're talking about is trust in government. So it's kind of an indicator of trust in government. And if there is no trust there, it doesn't matter. Yeah, exactly. You were told you work hard, you do all these things, you're going to get a good life owner. It's all- I got an idea.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Not that. I have a PR strategy campaign that is better than what they've done so far. What they do is, Dan Bongino calls a press conference and he says, they didn't want me to release this, but I have the Epstein files and I'm going to release them. And then he stands at a podium and he's got all the press there and he's like, I would never let you guys down. And I talk with the president and the files are right. As it lifts him up, a guy in a burglar outfit runs up in a cape and grabs it and then runs.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Dan chases after him and then while they're running the Epstein burglar sets it on fire and throws it on the ground and jumps on it and Dan goes, no, no, it's over, there's no copies. It was a hard copy. We didn't want it to get hacked No, it's over. Well, there you go folks. Sorry. Nothing to see here. Just as in big red letters confidential on the front Just like in the cartoons and then and that campaign would have been better because at least it would have been entertaining
Starting point is 01:46:24 And be like, well, okay, you're lying to us, but it was funny. He's got like the spirit gum mask, like the hamburger. The Epstein burglar. Did you see the memes from National Treasure of Nicolas Cage saying, I'm going to steal the Epstein files? I mean, if they made that move, they're making a National Treasure 3. That's close, but we have a long time we've been waiting for that. This is why we need AI video generation upgraded ASAP not for Political smear campaigns not for porn, but so we can make national treasure 3 the search for the Epstein files
Starting point is 01:46:54 That's and it's like he's he's underneath the DOJ And it's a cave with like spikes swinging back and forth and air dart poison darts flying at him And he has to travel back to little st. James for like a flash drive that's in the bowels of the basement. Yeah. The building with the weird stripes on it, he opens it up and it goes down into this deep underground lair. They can't admit, like they tried to do
Starting point is 01:47:15 a national treasure show and everybody hated it because there's nobody alive in Hollywood anymore that actually likes America. The reason, the beauty of those movies is like they're unapologetically romantic about our history and you can't do that anymore. And silly. All right, let's see what else we got going on here
Starting point is 01:47:32 with these chats. All right, Sinaj Berries says, thank you Steve, refreshing to see someone like you running for governor in our state. I'm eyeing ID to move, I don't know, if they move, I'm sorry, if they vote another newscom, question, why should we vote for you instead of Chad Bianco? Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Look, Chad, I know Chad, he's a good sheriff, but there's more to the job than just crime and law and order. And I've got a lot of experience in running a business, being in government, making change happen, a media platform. I've got big supporters, Charlie Kirk, Vivek, there's a whole, you know, Jack Gibbs, big pastor in Southern California. So there's a movement that we're building. And I just think I've got the ability to build the movement we need to win. And then once we've won to really get the job done because I've been there operating at that kind of level,
Starting point is 01:48:30 you know, fighting bureaucracy and making change happen right across the board on a whole bunch of different policy areas, economic policy, all the different things we need to fix in California, the regulations, the bureaucracy, that's the big thing we've got to deal with, which is this massive swamp in Sacramento All this stuff everything you hear about the swamp in DC the deep state the administrative state
Starting point is 01:48:52 Whatever you want to call it It's ten times worse in California because it's just been non-stop Democrat rule You've never had at least in Washington. You've had You know a bit of a changeover. You've had Republican presidents come in put in different people it's been one-way street in California you've got to be really strong and tough and experienced at how to deal with these bureaucrats and I've done that. I heard Gavin Newsom talking maybe it was maybe it was just a tweet that I saw but he was someone who said something about the single-party ruin California he's like we have six
Starting point is 01:49:22 Republicans on the I think it was you you know, on the state Senate or state house or whatever. And I'm like, six, how many people are in California State House? The fact that you have six doesn't mean anything for they have a what's called a super majority. Yeah, two thirds. So they can do whatever they want. Doesn't have any Republican input. But it's just, it's so funny to hear Gavin Newsom making these remarks just like he was defending the Second Amendment on the Sean Ryan show the other day because... But almost everything, I haven't seen the whole thing, pretty much every clip I've seen, he is just totally lying. Yeah, it's all lies.
Starting point is 01:49:59 It's just the shamelessness of it. Did Sean Ryan take him a task? He didn't push back a whole time. I think that, yeah, he, well, I mean, so he didn't, I think that his perspective is he wanted to, you know, keep it friendly and allow people to criticize afterwards, but no, he didn't push back now. I think that he should.
Starting point is 01:50:17 This is the challenge, right? If I go hard on Newsome, he won't come on the show. And so a lot of these hosts are like, if we want high profile interviews, high profile interviews, you've got to be nice, even to bad people. And I'm kind of like, Gavin Newscombe doesn't deserve my protection,
Starting point is 01:50:36 or whatever you want to call it. I'm not- Charity. Yeah, charity. He mask mandated everybody while not wearing a mask. They arrested a paddle boarder. This is under his rule. In the ocean. By himself.
Starting point is 01:50:48 But the thing I don't understand, like I would, I'd love to go on what you could call hostile media because I like an argument. And I think when you have an actual argument, like, you know, polite, but like fact-based, you know, you really, then you get really, you get the points out better than in a friendly setting.
Starting point is 01:51:07 And so I don't understand why they wouldn't want to come here and be challenged. Well, because they're wrong because they don't have good arguments. But they know they're wrong. Yes, exactly. So, and he's got such a terrible record and it's indefensible actually. All right. Jordan Sturtevant says either Trump has lost his touch Or there is someone behind the scenes and you too crashed There's someone behind the scenes is what he said let's see if I can find that chat again because YouTube Chris Someone with enough leverage to give him orders there is no way he is this bad at this I
Starting point is 01:51:40 mean Yeah, is this the first time Trump's been on the back end of like an 80-20 issue or a 90-20 issue or a 90-10 issue? It just feels like his ego's got the better of him. I think this is the... his instinct is usually so good and I think that this is the first time that he's been on the wrong side of a very obvious issue in my opinion. Well, that's why I asked the question earlier. It says it's gonna make people wonder, like, what's different with this than literally everything else that we've talked about with you, because you're not approaching this
Starting point is 01:52:09 the way you approach every other issue. Yeah, it does seem sus. Yep, American M says, Trump has lost me with all he said, and apparently he doesn't want our support and thinks we are weak and bad people. It's sad to me, but I can't support him anymore. He is protecting pedos for some reason.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Yeah, maybe because the idea is that Epstein tricked them into doing whatever it is they were accused, like whatever it is they did. Underage girl, like Virginia Dufray, I think with Prince Andrew was 17 at the time. And so the theory was that he's like, here's a young lady, she's 20. And then afterwards, psych, she's 17 at the time. And so the theory was that he's like, here's a young lady, she's 20. And then afterwards, psych, she's 17, gotcha.
Starting point is 01:52:49 And then now we own you. And so Trump's attitude is, I'm not going to publish it on these guys. I think he should, I think that's for us to decide. And we want to know what Epstein was doing, why he was doing it, who he was working for. But there's a lot. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:53:06 Maybe Trump is like the collateral damage to the economy and the US trade and foreign affairs isn't worth it. I just literally, all you can do is speculate. To be fair though, there's a lot of people even on the right saying, so long as he doesn't want to publish it, I'm just going to say he's on the list. And like, Elon Musk said it. So I really, that's the one part of this I don't believe because why would the Democrats who had access to everything would have would not have released that.
Starting point is 01:53:34 They did one thing to try and stop it right everything they could. They falsely accuse them of a fake rape. Yeah. Well is the idea here that they could have released his name and not the other names? Because if the idea, okay, so then they think that they could have released just his name and nobody would have then been like, okay, so who are all the other powerful people on this list? If there was any evidence, they could have released it selectively.
Starting point is 01:53:56 And they did not do it. Yeah, or we didn't hinted at it. They didn't even do that. Just pictures of Trump with Epstein at parties and stuff. Yeah, like if you looked at all of the documentaries that were made about Epstein they all have a picture of him and Trump is the cover of it on the streaming services that's because the media is yep very good at their jobs let's see what is this a jig eight four five three is that what I can't read
Starting point is 01:54:22 your name says Tim pool is on the Lauren Southern list You guys It's a joke about Epstein, but the story that broke you saw this is going viral Lauren Southern accused Andrew Tate of yeah sexually assaulting her Mm-hmm and instantly like everybody in the space came out and they're like, yeah that never happened Yeah, Tommy Robinson came out and said that didn't happen Or he said that like after that night in the morning He was in the hotel room next to hers and she was kissing Andrew Tate as if everything was good And he was like what are you talking about? That's I mean, I don't know Lauren all that well But it does seem suspect considering all of the people that are saying no
Starting point is 01:55:00 That's all she published a book and then released a free chapter claiming agitate raped her Yeah, and the media is running it like crazy Yeah, all right Henry Davis says hey guys, I hate to beg but my dog needs surgery for a tumor They've already gotten a six grand loan, but that's only able to cover roughly half of what we need our give send go link is of what we need. Our Give Send Go link is slash capital G-H-U-P-M. Prayers are welcome too.
Starting point is 01:55:28 I know times are tough. What was it? What was it again? It's a Give Send Go slash, and it's all caps, G-H-U-P-M. Save a dog. That sucks, I'm sorry man. Our cat is currently in the middle of just diagnosed with cancer. So I'm with, man. We're our cat is currently in the middle of oh no diagnosis cancer
Starting point is 01:55:45 So I'm with you big time and I'm sorry for your dog Brutal man What we got going on over here Jeremy Rain man says it doesn't matter who wins the midterms if Trump won't lead with on it with with an honesty that holds government Accountable for sex trafficking American underage girls as a form of intel source and method. At that point, the US government can be declared a criminal organization. There's a lot of things the US government has done.
Starting point is 01:56:15 But anyway, let's see. Sterling Wilson says, if people in the MAGA base take Trump personally without being named, they have mental issues. I'm only one person in the MA mega movement and wasn't offended by his truth posts at all. He wasn't talking to me or a majority of us. I don't know. He just said, if you believe the Epstein hoax, then you're a past supporter and you know, I mean, it was an interesting perspective though. If they if that's widely shared and who's trump talking to yeah I mean, I I don't know but it's look it's it was a bad
Starting point is 01:56:51 Bad way to approach this situation it feels like the first time trump actually tried to play the like I I own you kind of card so There are a lot of people on the left they they say Trump, it's a cult or whatever. And Trump's always been very magnanimous and respectful to the personalities that, you know, build this coalition. This seems like the first time he was basically saying, don't define me. And, you know, with Charlie Kirk sentiment on the matter, it looked like they
Starting point is 01:57:22 were giving out messages to their top, you know, surrogates. We want to drop this move on and said, okay. But the reality is the people voted in Trump are not a cult shows like this exists. Benny Johnson was going hard as well. And he's a Benny was a big Trump guy. Exactly. Yeah. I'm very impressed. Shout out to Bay Johnson. Uh, and, and we of course are not going to just immediately be like, okay, absolutely doesn't matter anymore, goodbye. So, you know, that exists. That's the most annoying thing for anybody who's been accused of that because they tacitly might have supported him
Starting point is 01:57:53 because there are some issues that you agree with them on, is to be told that you're a cultist when everybody knows that what you want more than anything is well-functioning government and if that means criticizing him, that's exactly what you should be doing. There's a lot of people that if you don't say the words that they're thinking that they automatically just say oh well you're supporting him, you're supporting a child, you're helping to hide child rapists, blah blah blah blah blah. Even if you're like no, you know, there should be an investigation or he should release this stuff. But if you're not sufficiently vocal and outraged,
Starting point is 01:58:29 then they just accuse you of. Well, so I think, certainly for Charlie, it's pretty evident to me that everything he's saying about it comes from a position of wanting Trump to be successful and thinking that this is hurting him. So he's trying to be helpful, I think. A that it's hurting him because it is, you know. Yep. Garant says Trump is channeling Kelly Sue DeConnick. Is that what you said? Yeah. Don't like my politics, dump on my books.
Starting point is 01:58:57 And then no one buys Marvel Comics and she's unemployed. Trump, you're all big dummies. I don't want your support. Challenge accepted. Enjoy Nixon impeachment in 2027. I don't think she is unemployed, though. always got work That was the problem the idea was that Marvel would artificially prop up people who had beliefs that went counter to you know They would say that stuff and then be shocked when nobody bought their stuff Only the truth says I know Rhino Chad Bianco has a history of gun grabbing, anti-Trump, and physically getting on his knees
Starting point is 01:59:26 for BLM while on camera. Steve, will you lower the income tax, property tax, the $1.65 fuel tax, and repeal every anti-2A law in the books? Let's do it. What was the last thing? I was getting so excited to answer yes. Repeal the anti-2A laws.
Starting point is 01:59:40 Yeah, I'll do whatever I can on all of that. And so, my tax plan is your first hundred grand free of state income tax Working-class tax cut working-class people even hurt the most by this insanity on the gas prices there My plan is three dollar gas that may sound actually high for the rest of the country right now in California I know in California we have five dollar gas heading to six seven or eight because they're shutting down refineries. So three dollar gas mostly achieved not through cutting the tax but right by rolling back the climate regulations. Definitely got to defend
Starting point is 02:00:19 property taxes is harder because it's in the state constitution, but I will guarantee not to raise it. Got to protect Prop 13, which guarantees that. Second Amendment, I mean, I strongly agree with that and the way they're chipping away at it constantly. And these Democrats are constantly trying to find ways to do that. And I'm actively talking to all the gun groups about the really specific things that we can do.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Again, the problem is you got the legislature and they're not going to be on side with this. So going back to the earlier question, I really understand how the mechanics of government work. And that's what this is all about. What can you get done through the executive branch, through the agencies, the bureaucracy, all of that stuff? And that's what I'm working on right now. Right on. Well, all of that stuff. And that's what I'm working on right now. Right on. Well, it should be fun. But my friends, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, so smash the like button
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