Timcast IRL - Candace Owens ADMITS No Evidence Israel Involved In Charlie Kirk Murder w/ Kevin Smith

Episode Date: August 15, 2026

On this episode Phil & the crew are joined by Kevin Smith to discuss Candace Owens & Andrew Wilson's debate on Charlie Kirk's murder Luigi Mangione pleading guilty & admitting he shot the UnitedHealthcare CEO Hosts:  Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Chris @ChrisKarr17 (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Kevin Smith @kevin_smith45 (X) Candace Owens ADMITS No Evidence Israel Involved In Charlie Kirk Murder | Timcast IRL

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and everything else is Kevin Smith. As I go, man, thanks for having me. Thank you for coming. Who are you? What do you do? Oh, so I'm an activist out of Long Island. I founded an organization. Activist is a really loaded word. What kind of activist?

Are you the kind that throws fire bombs at FBI buildings? No, I'm the kind that focuses on smaller elections. I like to get people involved in school board elections, county stuff, the city council races, the stuff that really impacts your lives, that doesn't get any attention on Fox News, but are the people who are hiring the teachers that are teaching your kids.

I also host a show called Loud Majority Live on LFAT TV right here on Rumble and YouTube. You guys check it out. I'm live at 3 p.m. every day. Awesome. Thank you for joining us. Chris Carr's here. Chris Carr? Yeah, I'm a writer and outspoken anarcho Christian, much to the chagrin of the folks in the chat.

Happy to be here. I'm a rules lawyer. I follow the rules. I'm Ian Crossland. Not a lawyer. That's true. He might be. But he's not.

I don't know. I actually have no proof of that or evidence. But I'm Carter. You know me. Chris, thanks for coming. Of course. Thanks for having me. Pulped. All right.

So from the Washington Times, Candice Owens concedes no direct proof that Israel killed Charlie Kirk in a debate with Andrew Wilson. That is barely news. Candice Owens acknowledges she has no direct evidence that Israel was behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk during a nationally streamed debate with an online debater, Andrew Wilson. Even as she has laid out of theory, she says points to an Israeli agent in the case. pressed repeatedly by Mr. Wilson, who hosted the debate show The Crucible, on whether she could back up months of insinuation about Israel's involvement. Ms. Owen said, well, I couldn't say Israel was on the ground and shot and killed Charlie Kirk.

She said she was instead trying to establish a motive, pointing to Mr. Kirk's private complaints about pro-Israel donors in the weeks before his death, and what she described as an unusual behavior from Israeli officials afterwards. Mr. Wilson, who has offered Ms. Owens as much as $300,000 to defend her claims publicly, asked her directly, do you have any positive evidence whatsoever that Israel killed Charlie Kirk? Ms. Owens did not answer with evidence. Instead, she repeated an unsubstantiated claim she first made in November 2025 that 12 Israeli-registered cell phones were detected near the shooting scene at Utah Valley University and called the broader chain of events a conspiracy building. No law enforcement agency has confirmed this claim. It did not originate. with any named investigators, Ms. Owens has attributed her broader suspicion to the case, in the case, to unnamed sources and turning point USA insiders. She is entirely full of shit.

I don't believe any of the stuff that she says. I know that there's going to be people that are going to get up on me and my mentions are going to be full of people saying, oh, but what about this? What about that? Bullets blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't care. Bullets do weird shit. And everything that Candace has been asserting,

is all garbage. Absolutely. It was dreadful. I watched it on the way down here today. I'm dumber for it. I appreciate Andrew Wilson trying to do it, but he was facing an uphill battle. He had to prove something wasn't real.

Like, you can't prove a negative. Yeah. And that's what Candace Owens did the entire time. Now, the reason why this whole debate frustrates me so much is because it becomes so binary. Like, if you say what Candace is, saying isn't true, then immediately, oh, well, you believe the fed slop. Exactly.

She's just wrong. That's the worst. Well, I mean, and sorry to cut you off, but that's the most frustrating thing is, and I've been saying this a lot around this table here, just because the government lies doesn't mean that everything the government says is a lie, right? Like the idea that, well, the feds are saying it, so it must be untrue. That is wrong. The feds absolutely will lie.

They will unquestionably. And saying that they're not lying about this or they're not lying this time does not mean that they, that doesn't mean that they haven't lied in the past. It doesn't mean that they won't lie in the future. It just means that this particular issue seems like the Fed story is the closest to reality. Also, there were so many times in it where Candace made the assertion because they haven't explained X, therefore was. And it's like that's what trials are for. And look, we are programmed

from 35 years of watching Law and Order to think that we know that that's how trial. If you've ever actually watched the trial, it is monotonous, it is boring, there is no Tom Cruz yelling, you can't handle the truth. It is all exhibits and scientific words that most average people do not

understand, procedural things. And I feel like a lot of people are mad or upset that the trial itself has not moved at the speed in which the internet moves. Candace seemed to assume that because no one checked in with her, like, well, I'm Candace Owens and I have a question about Charlie's shirt moving, and nobody really answered my question. Therefore, giant gap. Yeah. And not just to answer the question, but answered in a timely manner at which Candace would be

happy with. Because like the biggest thing I got, and I only watched 45 minutes of it, but she was treating the preliminary hearing like the trial and also like testimony from people that were up there talking giving their opinions as fact whereas Andrew Wilson was sticking to actual fact and she kept bringing up the hear say argument right just because something is hearsay doesn't mean it's false yep it's just inadmissible in a trial but admissible in a preliminary hearing and look this is going to go on for a if this go does go to trial which I don't think it's going to. This is going to go on for a very long time.

Give me a favor and explain why you don't think it's going to trial. Well, I don't think it's going to go to trial because I think the Tyler Robinson's team will accept a plea deal to avoid the ultimate sentence. Yeah, you can say it. It's capital punishment. Yeah, to avoid capital punishment, they'll take that off the table

and they'll take life without parole. And the problem with that is is that then the people who are the detractors will say, ah, you see, they didn't want the truth to come out in a trial and that's what that's what and we'll get to the I'm sure we're going to talk about it in the next story that's what lawyers do

they look for the plea deal they don't want to turn into Marsha Clark from the OJ Simpson trial and turn into the butt of every joke for losing the unloosable case because something comes up that they didn't foresee so they're going to take the plea deal when it comes I hope if they do there's going to be some sort of an

allocution where he has to go up and say what he did how he did it and answer for it, I don't think that'll be enough to silence the critics. But, well, I mean, especially considering most of the people, like, at least as far as I understand, Candace's argument is Tyler wasn't the only shooter or he was a patsy, right? Like, yeah, she's claiming that he didn't shoot. Oh, she said, she says that he may have likely been on campus that day, although she has sources that claim that he was not even on campus that day.

But her claim is that he did not shoot for sure. Okay. She started with there might not even be a bullet. Yes. It's a projectile. Yeah. She's kind of met Andrew in the middle with projectile. She went back to the exploding lov mic.

Well, her essential claim is the exploding lov mic. Yeah. I mean, it was just, there was so many things that. And there is nothing. I'll debate anybody who's willing to have a conversation and actually have a conversation and whose mind will be changed. But Candace has staked so much on this theory that there's no way if Tyler Robinson went up to Candice Owen.

and said, I did it. She would go, no, you didn't. They convinced you, you didn't. We know that you did it. In K-U-U-U-TRA. Yeah, we know that you didn't. We know you have to say this, but we also know that you didn't.

Because, of course, if it's nefarious actors that are state-sponsored, of course he's going to say that because, well, his family. He has to worry about his, he's doing this to protect his family. There's always some kind of, some kind of explanation, and that's what conspiracies are built. I think she's conflating the Lee Harvey Oswald assassination of John F. Kennedy and put it in quotes

because the word Patsy doesn't get used in modern language. It's a word from the 50s. Lee Harvey Oswald said, I'm a Patsy as he was getting walked, perp walked. Tyler Robinson sent a text message to his lover that he did it, that he actually was the one that did it. So that's very different. Also, they found Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle, like two floors above where he was eating lunch that day. But many people say that it was planted there. They found Tyler Robinson's rifle. So there's that level of. of conflation as well. Oh, yeah.

Finding a guy's rifle doesn't mean that he's Lee Harvey Oswald. I mean, look, Candice is like a week or two away from talking about the second gunman on the Grassy Knoll. Yeah. Like, and it's, there actually is a grassy knoll in that. There is. At that college. Yeah.

You know, not to make light of it, but she's at that point. And the problem with it is this is the most traumatic assassination we've seen in what, since Bobby Kennedy? I mean, probably, yeah. Probably. Probably no one, very few people alive know how to handle this. Definitely, it was, if you look at the video, if you saw the video, it's definitely the most gory. It was real bad.

And it was probably other than JFK, the first one caught on film like that. Oh, yeah. You know, at least since then. And I don't know what good can come of what Candace is doing. Because if this doesn't go to trial, you have to remember, it only takes one out of those 12 jurors to go, nope, this didn't happen. And what's the probability that one of those 12 jurors is, big Candace fan. Or has, like in the closet.

Yeah. Just look at the way the internet operates now. You know, when they, you know, voir dire the jury, they're going to go through their Twitter history. And if that defense team finds somebody to retweet in Candace Owens or Ian Carroll or whoever, whoever it may be, they're going to try to get them on there. And I don't know what good this is. X all your questions.

Don't trust everything. But at some point, when a guy says he did a thing six times, I'm going to, to go with that probably is the person who did it. There are false confessions for sure, but false confessions in an interrogation room is different than one to your lover. And they also had DNA evidence, which people are, obviously,

anytime you bring up any evidence that the state has, people are going to say, it's just, you know, fed slop, you're going to believe the state. So again, just disregard evidence that doesn't actually reinforce your perspective. But they had his DNA on the rifle, the rifles, his grandfather's, his parents were asking about it.

there's all kinds of all kinds of evidence pointing to Tyler Robinson is the guy that shot him right there's there's confessions there's discussing it there's all kinds of evidence in any other circumstance if it wasn't you know if there wasn't this actual political kind of aspect to it people wouldn't be saying oh no you know or at least the number of people that were saying no that wasn't the year it would be significantly fewer but because of the political kind of angle on it people are very quick to be like, oh, well, you know, it couldn't have been these guys. It was definitely those guys. And it's because of this. It's, it's because, you know, Charlie wasn't as friendly to Israel. Charlie was the, like, he was a big Israel cheerleader for like almost all of his life.

And if he had, you know, a change, a slight change of heart, which I don't really actually believe that he did, I don't think that he, like, he hadn't made anything vocal. He hadn't talked about it. And like, if Charlie had to be, you know, had, they wouldn't just go to, all right, often. Like, you know, I mean, and if, if Israel really was, you know, the kind of place that was just like, all right, off them if they talk badly about us, why would they allow Candace Owens to spend a year making these allegations? Like, it's just, well, she wasn't out on campus all the time in open debate with people. She didn't have the influence that Charlie Kirk had, especially with the younger crowd. So, I mean, I'm going to say,

I'm going to say if Israel wants you, they're going to. get you. Exactly. She has one text message. Here's my problem. 200,000 concurrent viewers on her show and so that's very different. Charlie, Charlie was an anomaly in the current political landscape. There's nobody you can really compare him to in terms of his influence. And especially

and this is something, I think this is what ultimately led to what happened to him happening is that he had influence with young people. Vast influence with young people. He was changing minds that were set to be indoctrinated on college campuses. And when you put all that together, it's like, well, who did want to get him? You know? And here's my whole hang up.

is I have a huge bias against anything related to the state, anything related to the courtroom. I think the devil's playground is the legal system. So if anybody wants to question official narratives from the state or the feds or procedures in court, all I say is tell me more, you know. And that's because I'm kind of a penchonian. I love pension. And pension's like the original counterculture conspiracy theorist, novelist guy. And she's kind of like a pension character at the center of a story that's unfolding a narrative

that sounds totally bad shit, but it's still enticing, even to me. I mean, look, everybody loves true crime. I mean, true crime is probably the most popular genre of series. Especially with women. Especially with women. The difference between your, you know, Ted Bundy docuseries with the guy from high school musical is that we're talking about a guy that a lot of us knew. We're talking about someone that, you know, a lot of our friends were very close with.

And it is a huge difference between making a docu-series. he's about Ed Gein, who committed a crime in the 50s, and like a real, something that has real world consequences today for people that we know. I mean, I've spoken on colleges before. I'm going to do it next semester, and now I'm sitting here, and I'm like, every person who speaks on college campuses

after what happened to Charlie thinks to themselves. Yeah. Andrew Wilson said something else interesting in his, like, opening monologue in the thing that I caught where he said that he had, like, a text from somebody, I think it was Charlie to his security team that he thought the left was going to join him. I think I saw the tweet about that. So I thought that was an interesting Yeah, that was a, and it was the day before. Right. It was him confirming his, according to Andrew,

it was the text with him confirming the security arrangements and Charlie saying that he thought that that was going to happen. Yeah. I mean, it's obviously a tragedy and it's frustrating to me to see this kind the way that this is played out since he was murdered you know the the the fact that people have have just globed on to the the conspiracy story you know and and again i get it there are people that are just like i really said i think the covid fried people's brains i think there were a lot of people that you know they feel like they were duped because of covid they believed things maybe there are people out there that got vaccinated when and they feel like they they didn't need to get vaccinated. They feel like they were duped about the social distancing. They feel like they were duped

about taking time off. Then, you know, then you see the riots in 2020 and people are like, wait a minute, how come, how come I can't go to church or I can't go to the mall, but these people are out rioting or protesting? How come that's okay? How come I can't go watch my kids play baseball outside? You know, the kids can't do little league, but, you know, these people are allowed to get together. you build this kind of resentment against, against institutions at a time when trust in institutions was at a record low, right? And it's way worse now, obviously. But even like in 2020, trust in institutions had kind of cratered. And they never come back. You know, everybody's got that story of their grandmother who lived through the Depression that still kept money into the bed

in the 80s. Yeah. So these things don't come back when you do that. And the ruling class, the people who were telling us to trust every institution faced no repercussions. Yeah. Or just, just being in it. Gavin Newsom going to the French laundry is probably the best example. Yeah. Yeah.

Cory Leiffoot saying, no, no, I have to get my hair done. Yeah. You, you have to stay at home, man. Yeah. It was just, it was, it was, it was just too much for people to take. And they didn't have, they don't really have an outlet or didn't have an outlet. And so they're just like, well, everything they say is a lie. And again, again, I'm not.

I'm not the person that's like, oh, the government never lies. You know, it was, it was clear, or it is clear that there was all kinds of lies that were surrounding, you know, the COVID narrative, you know, even even up to and including where it came from, you know, what the genesis of the vaccine, of the COVID virus in the first place was. And then you top that, you know, throw that on top of all of the other lies that the government has, you know, has basically been feeding to the American people, whether. whether it be, you know, yellow cake uranium in Iraq, or if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. And that one I think is kind of doesn't get enough scrutiny because there were a lot of people. Or the bailout in 08. Well, the bail, but at least the bailout, they, it was not good, but the bailout, they weren't lying about it. They were like, yeah, we're going to, but we're going to dump money into the government or into the economy.

because if not, like, everything's going to go under. The credit markets are frozen, and if the credit markets freeze, then the whole, you know, the entire economy is going to freeze up. And that would have worse ramifications for the people than, you know, printing a bunch of money. That's a little different, though.

I meant like the institutions. Yeah. Sure, yeah. No one went to jail for it. Nobody went to jail. Nobody was ever punished for it. It's not, look, I don't know if jail is, I won't say necessary,

but how about fire? Yeah. How about somebody who loses a pension? Yeah. Like, even Fauci. Zero consequences. I mean, sure we got to read his diary entries, which were hilarious. Turns out he's a huge Barber Sherey Sand fan, which is so odd to me.

But that's the one that gets me more than anything else is how excited he was to meet Barber Shor I said, as most 80-year-old men would be, I guess. I don't know. But he got embarrassed a little bit, but he still got his pension and he's still got, he's got lifetime benefits and you got 11 he got a pardon for 11 years of anything he did previous if any of us did a 10th of what he did we would lose our job at the very least yeah and all of them whether it's the guys who who allowed you know 9 11 to happen a guy's like it was a clapper and then the the guy that came out and said we made a mistake wasn't fired like they there there's never any punishment yeah yeah the it it truly is a situation where people are just... I mean, the thing is that that argument, people look back on 9-11 with 2020 vision, right?

Before the, before 9-11 happened, like the FBI and CIA and NIS, they didn't communicate the way they do now. They're just, so when you look back at the whole picture prior to 9-11, you can look and say, oh, yeah, it did make sense. They knew because each individual department, or whatever you want to call it, had a piece of the puzzle. But it took Homeland Security, the apparatus of Homeland Security, to be able to look at all that and say, okay, we could see it now.

But prior to 9-11, they didn't have the ability to look at all the pieces at the same time. So it is accurate to say they knew. Yeah, no, I don't. You know what I mean? When I say new, I meant like just there's a failing at the top. If you're a baseball manager and your team finishes in last place, even if you tried really hard, you lose your job. Yeah.

Anthony Fauci, even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say he failed. Yeah. I mean, just like, you know, the Warner Act, the whole like, oh, you know, there's weapons of mass destruction. And the best argument you could possibly make about that is, well, there was because the U.S. gave them, you know, weapons of mass destruction in the 80s and they still had some left over. But it certainly wasn't yellow cake, like they said.

It certainly wasn't an active nuclear program. you know i mean there were there were you know periodic bombings of iraq all through the 90s during in the no-fly zone and stuff like that so like the the government has absolutely been lying to the american people about a ton of stuff forever and covid kind of was like the i feel like it was the kind of the breaking point where people are just like you know yeah it was it was it was so egregious too you know it was it was it was something that you shut the whole world down. It wasn't just, you know. And now the rewriting of it. Oh, no. Yeah.

We didn't shut anything down. It's pretty, we didn't do that. It's egregious. Look, I was thrown out of bars in New York City. Yeah. For not showing my paper. And the people, the sharper people out there understand that the reason that we, we, the economy feels the way it does now is because of all the money printing that happened. You know, you shut the economy down and then you just print up money and give it, you know, give it to people and, you know, dump money into the economy.

obviously more money chasing fewer products because the whole world shut down. People aren't producing things. People are cash rich. That's going to make the price of things go up. Like that is econ 101. That is the most simple way to understand inflation. And that's what's happened. And it takes a long time for wages to increase to match to the inflation that you,

the big bout of inflation that we had. And people are suffering. People are hurting. People feel like their dollars don't go as far. and they look back and they say, well, it was because of COVID and it's because of all the money printing. It was the largest transfer of wealth in human history. Yeah. I mean, houses roughly are double.

Yeah. A house selling for $600,000 now, the year before COVID was 400. Yep. That is just, that is a mathematical certainty. That's not me being like some millennials saying, oh, boomers had it easier. I mean, they did, but we could do that all day. It is a, it is just a fact that. houses have gone up 30, 40%,

not since the 90s, not since the 2000s, since like 20 minutes ago. Yep. And it's I'm looking for a house right now, and I'm mortified. They're gonna Florida's looking better and better every day. They're going to come down because there's way

more sellers than there are buyers right now. And so, like not, I don't think it's going to happen in the next year or two or whatever, but and also the boomers are dying. Every time I go away, no matter where I go, being from Long Island, one of the most expensive housing areas in America. Anytime I go away, the first thing I do when I get to a hotel is I go on Zillow.

And I'm like, let's just see. I was speaking to Tennessee a while ago. I saw a palace. A palace. It looked like Jasmine's house in Aladdin. 280? I was like, how? I know.

I was bought a side-out seed. I think I know two people that are selling houses in the Nashville area. So that are looking to move them, so. Don't tell me that. All right. So, all right, let's move along. Actually, no, we've got a one. No, we're not going to. Let's not even go back into this. We're going to move on. Everyone is better off for us moving on. Yeah, you know. Six hours of whatever that was.

I've got to make sure these things are muted, though, because I don't want, yeah, it's muted. And is this one muted? Yes, all right. So we're going to jump to this story now. Luigi Mangione, from ABC News. Luigi and Mangione admits to shooting United Health Care CEO as he pleads guilty. in federal case. Luigi Mangione admitted to shooting United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson as he pleaded guilty Friday to two federal stalking counts marking a dramatic

turn of events in the high profile killing. Thompson's family spoke out in a rare statement Friday calling the plea an important step toward justice as Mangione's attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the charges he's facing in state court under New York's double jeopardy law. In the federal courtroom Friday,

Mangione outlined his crime saying after years of enduring severe pain from a broken back, I learned that United Health Care would be holding its annual investor conference in New York City. Manjione said he learned the exact location of United Health Care's conference by emailing the company, posing as an investor with more than $50 billion in capital. Before traveling to New York, I used a 3D printer to make a part of a gun, and I equipped the gun with a silencer in the magazine.

He said, my travel to New York and email to United Health Care was with the intent to shoot Brian Thompson. I shot Mr. Thompson in Manhattan, and he died. I knew what I was doing was illegal. I mean, this is, I mean, it's, it's, I hate to say, it sounds bad to say it, but this is, at least it's a good thing

that he's admitting this, you know? Obviously, the story's horrible. I don't want to call him crazy because he was completely clear-headed, you know, in doing this. But it's just, uh, it's, it's just such a monstrous act to walk up behind a guy, you know, because

you have back pain and shoot him in the head and kill him. A guy with two kids. A guy you don't know. Yeah. Like he didn't, it wasn't like a doctor screwed him over, like, and he got mad just some dude walking in the show. And all they did was congratulations. They just appointed a new CEO and just kept moving along. Yeah. Like all you did was cause a family you made no difference in the world. And

you know, I thought he wanted the spectacle. I thought he wanted the whole charade. But it turns out when the rubber meets the road, a lot of these a lot of these guys can't face the heat of what's coming. Capital punishment is very convincing. Like we said in the Tyler Robinson case. Once it becomes tangible that you can lose your life because of this.

And the cult following around this guy is so weird, man. So, I raised a lot of money that I don't really know what for at this point. Yeah, well, that's it. That's what annoys me about a lot of these cases is that it gets right up to the point where they get to trial and they've wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars and days of courtrooms and this, that, and the third,

and then just, all right, now I'll plead guilty. Even though we saw you do it, you admitted it, you tried to fight all the evidence in the backpack and him in the Burger King or whatever it was, that annoys me when that happens. Even like I'm, you know, I was saying I'm from Long Island, we had the Gilgo Beach situation. That guy rode that thing out for like six months

and then just went, eh, guilty. Like, no, you should get one chance to plead guilty. together than not we're going i mean i don't know i don't know how i feel about that i i think i mean i like the sound of it like all right here's your your your your last this is your last chance did you do it if not even if you say you did you don't would not it's not going to change the sentence you know um yeah i mean you might be on to something there you get you've got like look did you do it you've got up until the start of the trial or something like that and actually not not even the start of the trial because that's months and once in

Well, the start of the hearings. Yeah, it's from the process. You know, I'm sure there's going to be some lawyer in the chat letting me know. I don't know what I'm talking about because. Well, yeah. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know. I just played one on TV.

Oh, it looks like he didn't plead guilty to murder. He pled guilty to two federal stalking charges resulting in death. The New York state murder case is he's still facing. He hasn't made a plea. He did this to get out of the double jeopardy of the state trial. Right. That was what it was. federally charged too, right?

He pled guilty to the federal charges so he can't be charged in the state. Is there a capital punishment in New York? So the option of capital punishment would be a federal. Would have been off the table. Maybe he did it to just, maybe now he's looking at, I don't know the sentencing. Maybe now instead of 25 to life, now he's looking at 15 to life with parole or something, you know, with. Oh, that would be terrible. Or something like that maybe he pled to the Fed stuff to get a lighter sentence.

I'm sure he'd rather go to federal jail than go to. Attica. I think the biggest issue that I heard about was like they searched his bag before actually like identifying him or something like that. And like so everything they found before they got to the station with him in custody is not admissible in court, which had like the gun, the book, like all the stuff they wrote down. So they can't use that if I understand it correctly, which would be difficult for their case. In a perfect world where you have 12 juries. or jurors that have never heard about it, but I don't know. That's also weird, the 12 jurors who have never heard. It's hard to find that. You take both these cases. Find me one person who's now having heard of but these cases. And you go back, O.J. and Casey Anthony, where do you fight a 12 people?

Yeah, I mean, the idea of, especially nowadays with social media, like I think that, you know, in the 90s, obviously it took someone as famous as OJ to be. like you're not going to find someone that doesn't have some kind of contact with the case. But in the age of social media, you know, you really have to be a person that's focused in on your own life and not reading the news to not know about this. And you need 12 of them. Yeah. In the same town. Yeah. You know, I just, it's odd to me how we're going to find 12 people who have never heard of this.

How, you know, the guy that, yeah, they got to kill the CEO. Oh, no idea. Like, how big of a rock do you live on there? I mean, look, and another thing is, like, if you do find someone that, you know, doesn't have any kind of contact with it, are they, are they a person that you could, you could rely on to actually make a decision? You get 12 people who have been in solitary confinement. Yeah, right? In a paned room. You know, you guys go out of the jury.

You don't know anything. Do you just smoking weed in their basement playing Xbox all day or playing. and, you know, computer games maybe, but like otherwise, if you're a normal, well-adjusted person, I imagine you've probably heard some kind of context surrounding this. It's wild. But like you said, maybe he just got a better offer for Fed time than state time, and that's why he pleaded guilty to it.

I don't know. Maybe the punishment for the state trial would have been the life without parole, and maybe now we got the possibility of it. I can't, I mean, maybe, but I can't imagine, you know, this type of murder and not going to jail forever. Well, you know, the problem is that human beings are not suited for carrying out justice at all, whether they call themselves a judge and put on a robe or they sit on a jury or they're a lawyer.

We're not capable of administering justice properly. I mean, just, I mean, the whole system is really broken and it's corrupt. And it wouldn't surprise me if he is let go. Like, overall, just like... Well, no, I mean, after he serves a certain amount of time, there's some sort of, you know, legal loopholes that gets it back on the streets in five or ten years, that wouldn't surprise me because I don't have any confidence in the justice system to begin with. I think that I agree that it wouldn't surprise me. I would definitely feel like, I would feel, I would feel like that that isn't justice and I would be disappointed, but I wouldn't be like, I can't believe it.

You know, I mean, like, the, the stories that you hear of people doing very little time, for fairly egregious crimes. They happen so much that, or a pardon by, you know, someone that was sympathetic to his case somehow, you know. But I don't know. I mean, if he goes to federal prison, I assume it would have to be like a president that would pardon him. So, you know, like the governor of California can't pardon for federal. So it'd have to be the president. So, I mean, even when the governor of California is precedent, maybe he'll do that.

That's depressing, depressing. Or when AOC is president. Well, I mean, look, they let John Hinkley out. Yeah. And, dude, he just recently reached out to Jody Foster again. No kidding. I swear to God. I swear to God.

I just saw a tweet about it the other day. She's about 50 years older than his ideal age at this point. I mean. She's also a lesbian. Is she not? Yes. He doesn't know anything. Like, that doesn't matter to him.

He thought he, at one point he thought if he killed Ronald Reagan, she would date him. So, you know, what do you, do you think it was just high? Like, just, oh, no, I would love to read the evening. Remember me? Yeah. I'm outside. I just watched this really cool movie from 76. Prop back so many memories, Jody.

Jody, do you still have those knee highs? Look at a mountain. Why with Jody Foster after that? mountain. I would run over to hide. I mean, I'd be living on top of Everest. I do. I really would love to now as you mentioned, I would love to know what the

message. You know, just slide, slide into her DMs. You know? Twitter. If John Hickley starts tweeting, we're going to have to have a serious conversation about what we are. I think he does tweet or he was tweeting. Yeah, yeah. He's going to count. Yeah.

Yeah, he's trying to do some concerts. He's a bad that I immediately picked up my phone to go follow John Hinkley. No, it's hilarious. Like, I mean, look, like, everybody, like, everybody likes to, like, watch, you know, voyeur, voyeurism stuff. And, like, especially crazy people. Look at the first story that we were talking about today, you know. Wait till he finds out that Jared Letto played him in a movie.

Like, he's going to be really, he's put on 150 pounds to play. Oh, no, he played, um, uh, the guy that shot, uh, Chadman, Chapman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Mark David Chapman. Sorry, man He's gonna Sorry, Jared But yeah,

still like the idea That John Hinkley is Reaching out to Jody Foster That's hilarious He said, okay, so this is a quote That I got He said, I just wish Jody Foster well, You know, I don't really see her movies

But I wish her well And I know she's doing quite well And that's all I can say is just I wish Jody well And I hope she has a good life Look at that. All right Isn't that wonderful?

They got to clarify that Yeah He's got silence To the lambs on repeat In his house Like 10 screams Just that one scene With the music and the dancing and the tucking

Oh man Oh man But anyways So yeah Luigi Mangione He's apparently not going to be killed Or not going to receive capital punishment The thing that That really

You know We touched upon a little bit before That really is kind of striking about this Is how many people Have come to his defense and not just like people that are not just women that are like in love with bad guys right because you hear stories about that kind of stuff all the time

murderers in jail get messages and letters from women and people don't understand why no one except for the women that are sending these letters understand why but it happens all the time there was this one really good looking criminal that like was a violent violent guy And women. Ramirez.

No, well, I mean, yes, Ramirez, yes. He got a whole thing about the women that... Yeah, yeah. That was the night stalker, right? Yeah. But there was another, it was another guy that wasn't famous, but he was a really violent criminal. And women were after him, just going. And, like, he beat up girls and stuff, like girlfriends.

And they were just like, I don't care. I don't care. I can fix him. I can fix him. You know? And that's kind of something that you expect. But the people on the political left that were just like, you know, Luigi Mangione, Taylor Lorenz.

It made some comments. Like, you know, people understand why, you know, someone like Luigi, no, you shouldn't understand. You shouldn't. But the reason people understand is because they're so outraged with a broken system, a broken health care system that doesn't work for them, a country that doesn't work for them. So I understand why they're outraged too. Obviously, I don't advocate for violence in any circumstances or any form. But I do understand why people have that reaction to it.

I just, I don't understand why people think that that would fix something. You know, because it's like if you're, like if you're, if you're angry about a system, right, killing one person, obviously, like we talked about it in the beginning, he's just going to be replaced. Well, this is a problem with leftism and liberalism in general and also communism. It's just like, I'm generally aligned with a lot of the socialist and even communist critiques of problematic systems, even capitalism. it's the solutions that are the problem. You see, so this guy is outraged, you know, that he had a bad back, and he just wanted to make an example out of this CEO. That's not a solution.

It doesn't even come close. It did nothing. It just harmed more people. So the leftists, and maybe even conservatives, too, they don't have a good pathway for solutions, even if they understand the severity of the problem. And this goes all the way back to Karl Marx. A lot of Marx's critique of capital, it's pretty sound.

It's the solutions that are insane. See, I just, I need to do what Marks did. I just got to find a rich friend to live off of, and then I can just sit around and write nonsense all day long. Apparently, not a bad gig, if you can get it. Not a bad gig. Maybe throwing a bath every once in a while. I don't think the baths happen.

I don't think he bathed. There's a lot of messages about boils and stuff like that. Yep, so go in the ocean. There's got to be a lake around. Somebody just push him into a pond. He lived in England, so he lived in London, if I understand correctly. So it's constantly raining, you know. There was a point.

where he couldn't leave his house because he had pawned the last pair of his pants, so he would have been naked. It's true. I had no idea. I really hope that the current day of American... I think he owned the only pair of pants in his home, so no one could leave except for one person, so it could only be him to go get the rest of his pants. It's ridiculous.

I really hope American communists don't follow suit. Like, I really hope Hassan doesn't, like, pull on the last pair of his pants and keep... But they would be easier to identify if they all decided to just go pantsless. Not in New York. I mean, I guess I do understand what you're saying about how, you know, just systems in general are imperfect, right? We're human beings and any system that we can conceive of isn't going to be a perfect system. And I think that's part of the allure of, you know, socialist and communist or socialist and communist ideas is they promise a perfected system. And they don't tell you how you're going to get there.

They don't tell you how to organize it. But what they do is they point at the imperfections of the current system and say, we'll do it better, we'll do it right. We know how we can fix this. And which clearly they don't because whether, you know, even people that have, you know, problems with capitalism or, you know, the system that we live in, whether you want to call it, you know, capitalism or not. the imperfections are going to be there are going to be imperfections in any manmade system right and

even though our system is imperfect it is obviously like obviously the best system that man has been able to devise and again that doesn't mean that it's perfect that doesn't mean that there aren't people that uh you know will find it difficult to function in the system that we have there aren't You know, there are, there are plenty of people that, you know, just don't, you know, don't really have the capability to pay the bills on time and, you know, have a structured and a life structured and organized enough to be able to have a place to live and keep a home and stuff like that. Like there are people that need help with that. There are people that can't do that. And that doesn't mean they're bad people or they're evil people, but it does mean that not every. That does mean that our system is, you know, doesn't suit everybody.

But it's still the system that suits the most people. Well, that's it. And has obviously taken every single society that has engaged in markets out of basically agrarian subsistence farming up to a point where the number of, what's the word I'm looking for? The people in absolute poverty almost disappears. Like there's no one in the United States that lives in absolute poverty. That's it. Is that a lot of these American leftists and these communists, they don't seem to understand that they are not the average. No.

They are not the norm. Somebody who is in the worst shape paycheck to paycheck struggling 60 hour weeks is in the top 2% of the world. And not just. I mean, if you can turn on your faucet. Yeah. You are doing better than like, 25% of the planet. If you're using an indoor toilet,

you're doing better than a billion and a half people. And I don't think they seem big if they compare their lives to Elon Musk. Like, I don't need to be Elon to... Actually, they compare their lives to what they imagine Elon Musk's life is because they, like, Elon Musk has, like, I think he sold, like, all of his houses

and, like, he might have a house now or whatever, but when he was starting SpaceX, he was, like, sleeping at SpaceX, or when he started Tesla, he was sleeping at Tesla. and like he works like 16 hours or 18 hours a day like so the idea they have this this concept of him because he's a billionaire that he's just drinking mitis on the yacht all the all day long but he's not he's working constantly because and that like the working constantly is why he's in the position that he's in people also look at billionaires as like a monolith they look at young billionaires they look at Zuckerberg and they look at Elon's relatively young but the majority of billionaires are over the age of 70 you know why because they started young Yeah, and sure, they got some breaks, definitely. A few of them probably got lucky. Some of them probably did it in a various ways.

But most billionaires, you don't wake up at 23 a year out of your master's degree and just fall backwards like Scrooge McDuck into a billion dollars. That's not the way it works. Like most of the time, most billionaires accumulated through 45, 50 years of compound interest, which you have to start when you're 20. And another thing that people think there are. a lot more billionaires than there actually are. I didn't, a little

digging in it. There's only 800 people in the United States that are billionaires. Well, 800. That's what makes it easy to go after them. There's 182 in New York City. And people think Wall Street, oh, not everybody that works on Wall Street is a billionaire. Those people are working

rich. So when you go after those sorts of operations, those are the people that are going to leave. I always say when it comes to someone like Mom Dani who goes after, you know, the top 10%, top 15%, 10%, 10%, I'm not worried about him. I'm worried about the guy who owns the store on the corner who says, I'm done and takes those seven jobs with them.

Because guess what? There's a lot more pizza parlor owners in New York City who have fled to Florida than billionaire trust, I'm sorry, billionaire hedge fund managers. There's a lot more guys that owned dry cleaners who moved to Tennessee. Yeah. Then there are Bill, uh, Ken Griffons.

People get so worked up about millionaires, right? And like, you know, if you're, if you're a guy that owns, you know, like you said, like a, actually for a good example that I like to use car dealerships. You own a couple car dealerships, right? You own a Ford dealer and you sell GM across the street and you've got a Toyota dealership as well, right? They're all under the same, you know, they're all yours, right? you own the buildings and the property, that's a million dollars. Not before you put a car on the lot. The buildings in the property are actually each one's probably a million dollars because

you got lifts in there because you got a shop, you know, you get a couple lifts. Each one of those is a million dollars. So your your net worth is $10 million. And people that are, you know, on the left, they're like, we have to get the money from, we have to get the millionaires. They're screwing us. But you, you employ 80 people. between, you know, maybe, maybe even, you know, say probably 40 or 50 people work at each building, right?

So you employ 150 people and they go and they come after you and somehow they decide that they're going to tax your property. And you have to get rid of a bunch of cars and sell one of the dealerships so that way you can pay. Well, you have to fire 50 people. I mean, look, just to put it into context, you want to go after millionaires in New York City. You are going after everyone who owns a home. I use my Uncle Pat as the example all the time. He was a union electrician, retired, opened a bar, sold his house. He did well for himself.

Is he the guy that the leftists think they're going after? No, they think they're going after Ken Griffin. But meanwhile, my uncle Pat, where is he? Panhandle of Florida now. He got out as quickly as possible. He was working rich. Well, he was worth what people would consider rich. But he was a union electrician.

those the 150 250,000 of those of my uncles who have fled New York are the ones that keep the economy going because Ken Griffin can only go to the dry cleaners as much as my uncle but there's a lot more of him than there are of the hedge fund guys who are getting ready to leave and people that you know look at the the CEO of United Healthcare I think he was worth something like 30 million or something like that's really not which is I mean yeah that's the thing it's like because human beings have such a difficult time, like conceptualizing large numbers, like once you get over like, say once you get over 10,000, right, looking at 10,000, you can't really tell the difference between 10 and 20,000 or 30 and 50,000.

You can't. Like, I mean, I stood on stage and looked out and it's like, oh, boy, there's like 20,000 people there. There were 60,000 people at the show, you know? I'm like, oh. But, you know, at big festivals, it's, you know, you play a show like that and you're just like, wow, that was a lot of people. Like, you can't tell, you know, you can't, like, you can't really comprehend. That's why those infographics where it's like, there's a pile of money that's a million dollars and then, like, multiple pallets that's a billion.

And then, like, a trillion is like the size of a building or whatever. Like, the idea for people that don't have much, they think that, you know, 30 million is basically the same. same thing as 500 million because, you know, it's so much money that I can't really comprehend it. And these people can do whatever they want whenever they want. And it's like the guy that, like you're talking about, the working rich, right? Like a guy that's 50 years old that's been doing his job for 30 years and he was smart with his money. And he's got, you know, he's invested his money and he's got actual property and stuff like that. That guy that's an electrician or whatever or that's a plumber or what,

have you. Like, he's worth a couple million dollars, right? But they're like, oh, he's a millionaire. And so that makes him the enemy. This, this motivation that people have where, which really boils down to class warfare, right? That's, that's what the left has been talking about for, they've been going towards class warfare. The DSA has been, at least, because the, the LGBT stuff and the, the kind of gay race communism stuff didn't work out. So they're just like, oh, well, you know, I guess we're going to we're going to go back to old vulgar Marxism. Like that is really like those like

that that's really a bad thing for your economy because it's going to drive your local economy because like you said it's going to drive the people that actually do own businesses and provide for their communities with services. It's going to drive them out. And you know it also comes from a group of people

who are overly educated and downwardly mobile. If you look at the people that are coming out for these people like Luigi Mangione, trust fund kid and it seems like he had a hard time making it doing what he wanted to do in life and was mad about it

probably went to school probably had a crazy student loan something like that you know there are all these momdani supporters are all the momdani people and the leftists and the communists that are out there there were all the people that went out and got advanced degrees 300 350 in debt a mortgage pretty much for jobs

that don't exist anymore and now they're going I have no vested interest in the system so let's burn the system down and it's no different than this guy who had a bad look some people have medical issues and i i i pray for you if if you are one of those people there's nothing worse than having a bad back nothing worse in the world than just being constantly in pain but this guy didn't do anything to you no he's also not the like spokesperson for the medical system in and of itself there's what is there 25 health insurance companies there's 25 different CEOs like he was just it was just it was

just the one he could get to. Yeah. That was it. Yeah. It's a, I mean, it's an absolute tragedy all around. And, you know, like I said in the beginning, it is good that he's admitted to it and that he's talking about, you know, what he did. But I think to Chris's point, like, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets out after a short

amount of time. But everyone's going to have moved on by the time. I wish people would refocus on the Federal Reserve as the center of the billionaire problem is that it's the centralized bank, because that's what Occupy Wall Street was about, and that was the whole point. And then while we were there, they redirected people at each other in class warfare.

And like, oh, all these people that were loaning money to, well, the richest one's the problem. But like, bro, you're the one loaning the money at interest. But the problem with this, and this goes to also one of your earlier points, Chris, is that I'm diagnosing a problem. The Federal Reserve systems got a lot of flaws. I just don't know exactly what the solution is,

and I don't think the communists do either or the corporatocrats. And it's like, I mean, you could give the control of the monetary supply back to Congress, like what the Constitution says is supposed to be. I don't know that that would necessarily solve the fiat currency problem because if we go back to the gold standard, it's going to deflate the value of the currency by 99%. And burgers are going to be $1,000. And so you can't go back to the gold standard. There's not enough gold. I don't.

Rand Paul was actually, I mean, maybe there's not enough gold, but it is a, and maybe this is a bit of an aside. But Rand Paul actually says that the gold is in Fort Knox. There had been rumors and people had been talking like, oh, you know, they don't have the gold in Fort Knox. It's not there anymore, blah, blah, blah. Rand Paul last week or earlier this week actually went into Fort Knox. Obviously, he doesn't have video of it because it's Fort Knox. They're not going to let you take a video inside Fort Knox. You know, you're not going to get the video proof of it.

Oh, you don't think Rand Paul walked in a little selfie with like. Yeah, you know, like in Die Hard Three. Yeah, you know. I'm kind of. And so, you know, you. And so, you know, you're going to have to, if you are the kind of person that doesn't trust anything, any politician says, take this with a grain of salt. But Rand Paul is one of the more honest brokers in D.C. So, you know, if he is to be believed, there is actually still gold in Fort Knox.

Yeah. And to say it would inflate by 99% is a bit hyperbolic because I don't know exactly how much the value would devalue. You're probably right. Yeah, you're probably right. Because when it was... Or you're not too far off, at least. I mean, an ounce of gold when it was taken off the... I'm sorry, not when it was taken off, but it was like 1980.

An ounce of gold was like 200 bucks. And now it's 4,000 or something. 4,500 bucks. So that's 20 times. So at the very least, you might see a 20 times devalument in the dollar if we were to go back to a gold. You're going to be buying French fries individually. Then you're not going to get size. I'll have five fries.

I don't know if I'm exactly doing the matter. It's a complicated equation to try and come up with because of all the new dollars that are in the system. So, you know, if you add, if you don't. the number of dollars in the system that makes them all worth half as much. Well, the amount of dollar, the U.S. economy is worth $169 or $170 trillion. I looked it up the other day when I was looking up how many billionaires there are. That is a, but that's not, that's like not a real, I mean, it might as well be a bazillion. The only time that, the only, like, other place that you hear, like, numbers like that are

when you're talking about like cosmology, like how many stars are in in the sky and stuff. But like, uh, the, it's like 170 trillion or whatever. And so you figure how many ounces of gold does the US have in reserve and then you divide it by the, you know, the, the number of dollars in the, the US economies were it. Oh, that's so many zeros. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's hard to think of.

That's like a big piece of, but again, this kind of goes to my, this goes to the point of what I was saying. It's like people have a hard time comprehending these numbers and they just become, you know, It's a garrillion dollars Well even like they were talking about So not to Miles Garrett The defensive end in the NFL

He got traded to Los Angeles He signed a hundred and 77 million dollar contract and after all the taxes And all the fees and this that and the third He gets to keep 81 million of it I think it's 86 Without his agent fees Is that after taxes too?

That's after it that's after I mean but you know what I try to And I'm just waiting at to hear how people feel about this. Though $801 million, he'll be fine. It's not the point. It's the idea that, I mean, and California in sports is such a good example of it

because there was a story a while back about the quarterback that won the Super Bowl. It actually cost him money to play in the Super Bowl because of California's jock tax. It cost him $71,000 to win a Super Bowl, which just in a mathematical, that's bananas. I mean, look, you know, with all it remains, with the band that I'm in, like, every dollar that I make, my manager takes 15%, my, or anytime we're on tour, at least this out goes, my manager takes 15%. My booking agent takes 5%, my booking agent takes 10%, and then the government takes about 30%.

So I'm making, you know, 30, 40 cents on the dollar. Yeah. You know, for every dollar that we think. That's, that's, you know, for me to take after. I pay for the bus, pay for the crew, pay the guys in the band, pay for, you know, whatever expenses pay, whatever

expenses we have. So it's like every dollar that we net, I get 40% of. And then that goes, you know, usually there's like, I got lawyers that I got paid for and other stuff. You know, there's two sides to it because people don't see your back end expenses and, you know, what it costs, those track to

trail, to drive them stuff all around. But it's also the concept of worth. People went nuts when Elon must become a trillionaire. And at a certain point... For a minute. For a minute. Like, he's not anymore.

Like, I don't... It might be today. It might be today. He had a good week. Yeah, he didn't. But there was a point there where he lost a whole zero. And people... At that point, worth is almost meaningless at $100 billion or up. You know, so...

And I try to explain to people when they talk about taxing wealth. You can't... Like, not... I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm saying what you're asking. is not possible. There's no way. I mean, think about if they taxed a regular person's wealth

and your house went up to a certain role. What are you going to do? Give the government your kitchen. Like there's, if I bought a house at, you know, if I bought a house in the 80s, it was $60,000, and now it's worth a million. And the government wants to tax me on that unrealized gain. You know, I'll drop my couches off.

Like, what do you want? You want my second story on the house? It's, there's no way to physically do that. But like we were talking about before, it's it's a it's just complaining about a problem without having a solution i feel like all three of these stories like kind of blend because that's that's kind of what kansas was doing she was just complaining about stuff without having an answer to any of the questions and now we're on to the same thing with luigi saying the health care system is broken so here's my ridiculous

solution to the situation yeah well we're going to jump to a story that i think we do have a solution for the Daily Caller reports. A senior Chinese Communist Party intelligence official is the new owner of a historic building overlooking the White House complex, a daily news, a daily caller News Foundation investigation discovered. Located approximately 650 feet northeast of the White House grounds, the 100-year-old securities building on 15th Street was purchased on July 21st for 2026 for 8.4 million by Philip Kue and Family Foundation filing show. The building's new owner, Philip Ku, has held numerous positions with Chinese intelligence and state security arms, according to university records and DCNF translations of Chinese government announcements. Let's see. Here's the actual... That's what I was going to say.

What an image. That's a good one. That is wild. You know, I mean, look, I don't know why we're giving CCP Intel officer an Overwatch position over the White House. Also, I feel like 650 feet from the White House for $8 million. Probably a deal. Yeah, right? Probably a bargain.

Like, what? Yeah. Is this kind of American citizen? I don't know. Let's see. Is China allow dual citizenship? Is that a thing over there? I think they allow it on our end.

Oh, okay. Not on the around. Yeah. Okay, yeah. American can become a Chinese citizen, but they can. All right. So we got a little oversight now. That's great.

You know what? They should just go over. just changed the locks. I'm sorry, this isn't yours anymore. This is an interesting part. Special Forces Training. Ku, whose Chinese name is Ku Fili, has held at least four Chinese government positions,

beginning with a career as a detective in the criminal investigation team in Shanghai, a 2024 University of New Haven Instagram post states. Shanghai's criminal investigation team is a unit within Shanghai's public security bureau, which functions as a local subordinate of China's FBI, the Ministry of Public Security. according to the DCNF translation of Chinese government reports.

While it is unclear how long Khu worked in the Shanghai PSB, he had already received combat training by October 2011 when he enrolled in a Shanghai Jai Tong University Masters Program according to DCNF translation of SJTU announcements. SJTU photos show students carrying rifles and wearing camouflage fatigues during a team-building war game at the program's outset. Classmate Kou Fili, who has undergone special forces training and served as a commander in the red-blue battle

and not only directed his troops to successfully capture enemy positions, but also killed one-third of the opposing forces with 42 shots, achieving the best individual sniper record, according to a DCNF translation of SJTU's announcement concerning the training exercise. 650 feet... Well, maybe he'll bring some of his criminal investigation background to his new neighborhood.

Yeah, maybe. 650 feet is like... That's like 340, 330 yards or something like just about 330 yards. That is not a long shot. No, it's like 200 yards. Yeah, that's like three. It's like two yards and a foot. Or, I mean, three feet in a yard.

Yeah. It's freakish, dude. Firstly, this probably went under the White House's nose, which is really crazy. They're probably hearing about it for the first time, too. This is the problem with laissez-faire capitalism. As anybody can buy anything. And you kind of, man, central planning sound a better. better. That's a really good

golf tee shot. That's going to say, yeah, you got a golf ball there. Like most professional golfers, if John Daly can hit it at his age, maybe we should first off, the fact that a building is for sale that far away like that is pretty badatins.

Hold on. 650 feet so that's, yeah, I mean, that's like more in yards. I think they show you the proximity of it a little lower. That's the White House. That's the place. You have an elevator? position is that well i mean it's a building

what so i mean it's got floors 600 feet away and and these rifles can shoot what thousands and thousands you do with i mean you know a competent and he's a sharpshooter yeah jennie's communist sharpshooter is that what he's like he's like hit there chris kyle like you know i i i it's not it's not some kind of you know crazy shot like 650 feet so that's you know

like 200 yards or 220 yards or something like that? I generally am against seizure of private property, but... 200 yards. Communists buying up America feel like we shouldn't. That's not even a pro-golf swing. No, that's not hard at all. It's like a regular me on Saturday with the boys. That's not. I really like that I think that I can

drive me every yards. But that's not the point. I mean, like, so I don't know, I don't know exactly I mean, I don't, I suppose there's probably no significant approval process that was looked at, but I kind of imagine like, you know,

the FBI probably should look into this. Maybe it's 4D chess and we have our sharpshooters living blocks away aimed at him. I mean, the thing is... CCP is like a kind, firm parent. Yeah, what is that? That's a direct quote from this guy. Get him out of here. Bring up to Alexandria or like a Silver Spring somewhere away from the building.

I mean, it does seem. kind of ridiculous but do you guys think that this is this is a sleep at the wheel or do you think that this is much of due about nothing do you think that this guy uh do you think that this is something the government should step in and say no we're not going to allow you because the government does do that all the time you know the the government absolutely can say look this is in proximity to the White House this sale isn't going to happen well I don't I don't know the means they would use but I'm sure that they it's a symptom of a larger problem that foreign entities whether whether they're CCP sharpshooters or, you know,

royal families from Abu Dhabi can grab real estate in our prime locations. I mean, I think it's the crown prince of Qatar. It's either because I always get the UAE and Qatar mixed up in the one that does this. But one of those countries, they buy soccer teams in relative, in major Western, cities. They've done it in four different countries and all of the stadiums are directly next to airports. They did it with the New York City football club. They did it with Manchester City. They did it with a team in France and they did it with the team in Sydney. You think that he just likes soccer and he doesn't want to have to do a long drive? But here's the thing. You want to buy one,

go ahead. Buy the team of Kansas City. Not the one in Queens next to LaGuardia Airport. And when I say next to, I mean about the distance from you and I, it's where that stadium is for the airport. For anybody that's been to like city field, This shouldn't be allowed. There should be like a dramatic approval process to foreign-born citizens buying real estate in this country. I mean, especially ones that have been here for like 10 minutes. I think that I think that this particular case with queer, whatever his name is, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong. I don't think that this guy's an American citizen.

It's his family foundation or whatever that bought it. and I'm far more sympathetic to the argument that, you know, there should be vetting of foreign organizations that purchase property in the United States. Someone, I think it was, I'm not sure who it was, but someone made the argument that foreigners shouldn't be allowed, like if you're actually not living in the United States, you're not trying to become a citizen. They shouldn't be allowed to buy property. That was me. Last week on Friday. You, well, but, but, but, but, I know I remember that. Who was the person that brought up the lease, though? Because someone, someone made the, made the argument that what about a lease?

I think it was, uh, yeah, last, that was the same show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he was it, um, look it up really quick. Steve DeAnne. I agree with you. Yeah. I mean, now major American cities. That's not a bad idea. Have become playgrounds for the rich.

You know, you want to talk about mom d'ami's like Pierre de Tartac's and all that. You go to Miami, all those penthouses are owned by guys from the Middle East who come over here, just a party. or do whatever they're going to do. Literally, you can't, you can't Airbnb these things. They're all owned by people that don't live here. These people got to know, if there is a communist revolution in the United States, all those property will be seized by those people.

So I think maybe we can do it more righteously. What do you mean? Which people? Foreign-born property. People that are foreign-born that aren't American citizens that own property in the United States, that property will be seized by the communists when they take over. If they take over, they will seize your foreign. They won't allow, they're xenophobes.

dude, they don't want outside influence. So we need to figure out how to remedy this before it bubbles into we're bought out by foreigners and there's no other recourse. I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. You're saying that the property that's here in the United States that's owned by foreign people, they will seize that property if there were some kind of civil unrest here in the U.S. Yeah, there's a socialist or communist revolution. That would be like the first thing that would be seized is the foreign owned property.

By the people that own it. By the communists. by the people that are trying to take control. Well, these people come from countries that have a very different structured government than we have, and they're going to default the way that their country governs, and they're going to use that country to come in and take property, right? I'm not sure I follow what you're saying.

Well, look, if this guy's connected to the Chinese Communist Party and he's got a place within lineside of the White House and there's some kind of overthrowing revolution, that'll be the last place they take. That's going to be where they're going to be finding refuge on their march across. I don't think American communists want Chinese communists anywhere around. I think they want to start their new communist thing. They don't, they're not into foreign.

I mean, not, I mean, they're going to need to help. If I was a communist in America, I would look to China as like the gold standard for what communists. It's not communist, though. It's a, no, it's a vanguardist. These terms are generally outdated, fascist communists. They get thrown around a lot. I mean, there's some application of them, but, I mean, the general principles are, I think, allied more or less. I don't know, man.

Yeah, I, so look, I mean, you. you look at the way that that you know people that are communists or socialists they've gone to cuba they've met with cuban uh officials um same thing with uh there's this i forget the guy's name but he's a big um big funder of of you know communists here in the u s and he lives in china uh you know you look at someone like hasan who's gone to china on what is it amounts to you know uh trip so he can glaze china i don't I don't think they're as separate and distinct as you might believe they are. Maybe.

I could be a little wrong, but the feeling, I sense that the property rights would vanish immediately and the foreign properties would be taken first because it's the easiest to take. There's nobody there guarding it. I mean, most of it, you know, a lot of it's... See, I think that the most likely scenario is like, in my opinion, is that the people that are like socialist, communists, they achieve enough political power. where they can basically alter the government. That's part of the reason why I think the SAA is actually such a big threat.

If they can actually, and Democrats by extension, because they will do things like change the structure of the government if they're capable of doing it. If they get into positions of power, they would do things like change the entire structure of our government and basically ensure that they can't be voted out. You know, you see that exact model has happened in California. It's almost impossible.

Like nobody legitimately thinks that a reputable. will ever take any kind of, you know, state position in California. It would take dramatic, dramatic, popular support of a Republican that just doesn't exist in California. Not to say that there aren't Republicans in California, but there are just so many people that don't, that would never vote Republican. It was just Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor and he was Republican.

That wasn't just either. That was 20 years ago. He was famous. No, because he ran after, I believe, it was after Jerry Brown got recalled. So he ended up winning with like, 14% of the vote. Yeah.

I think Tyrell Owens came in second. Oh. And wide receiver? Yeah. And Gary Coleman came in third. Gary Coleman? I'm not even, I'm not even kidding you.

Yeah. And I think a stripper was fourth. It was like he won with, he won with like teens because of the, because of the way the California recall process works. If you recall the governor, then he loses, basically anybody can run.

Yeah. And when, you know, people talk about, you know, oh, well, Reagan was, was the governor in California, but he was a Democrat when he was, if I understand it correctly. And that was also 60 years ago.

Yeah. People, a lot of people lament Reagan. Like, they talk, oh, Reagan, that was, that was so long ago. Yeah. That was an unbelievably long time ago. And even with Nixon, Nixon was a Reagan, was a Republican from California. And the exodus that's happened, statewide races, whether it's Senate or governor in some of these, I mean, I don't want to throw shade on Steve Hilton or Bruce Blakman, who I know Bruce very well. I helped him get elected twice on Long Island.

But the exodus that has happened, things have to get so bad that people go, we just need something different. I'm hoping in New York that that's Mamdani. But, you know, because everyone who left is a Republican. Yeah. That's why if you see, I mean, just think about it in this context. George Bush won Florida by 530 votes in 2000. Ronda Santis just won by 3 million. That was 25 years.

like the exodus of Republicans from blue states down to places like Florida and Tennessee and the Carolinas is astronomical. I think this is an important story talking about this Chinese guy buying property here next to the White House because I brought this up on Friday. This came up last Friday and I read the comments of that show and so many people said foreign citizens should not be legally allowed to buy property or land in the United States. Why is that allowed? And it's like a veil had been lifted.

that maybe most people don't realize what a crazy thing that is until you notice that it's happened. Like, it's the most common. Who would ever sell a bedroom to someone that doesn't live in their house? Who would sell? It just is shocking. I understand that we're a global corporatocracy in a sense, and that's sort of why this is being ushered around under the sheets. But dear God, do something about it.

legally well I mean to do something about it you need Congress to actually pass a law yeah and Congress doesn't do that anymore do they even know what's happening I don't yeah of course they know I wonder

these foreign nations will use our freedoms against us yeah they'll say well you know there's nothing in America that says I can't do it now force a local municipality force a farm town in

Iowa that has 2,000 people in it to file a lawsuit at which the Chinese Communist Party will fund the other side. Let me know how that lawsuit goes. I mean, you think the money that big tobacco spent against the government is wild. Imagine what the Chinese Communist Party or the crown prince of Qatar or any of these. I'm talking about like the families that own countries like and Muhammad bin Salman. They'll throw all the money in the world just to beat some, what, so you can buy 2,000 acres in Idaho and control the potato distribution of that region?

Like, they'll use that against us, and they've been doing it for years, and nobody steps in because nobody wants to appear, you know, xenophobic. Yeah, man, that's a big part of them. It's so different between, like, some guy comes here with his family and wants to buy a house and maybe he's illegal, and, like,

a shady LLC that's backed by weird money from Oman. Yeah, and even if we say, oh, well, you know, we're not going to allow foreigners to to purchase property. They'll just start an LLC in, in Delaware

or whatever. That's like I did it with this. This is a foundation. That's exact, you know. So I don't know that the idea of of preventing people that are not American citizens from owning property year in the U.S. would actually work.

I'm very sympathetic. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm very sympathetic to the idea. And I do. And like I said, I think it might have been Daniel Turner that said make them lease it. But that's not a bad idea. You know, I say, look, this property cannot be purchased by someone that's not an American citizen. So you have to, you have to lease it or whatever. But even still, you look at the decision by the Supreme Court about, you know, anchor babies basically, the recent recent Supreme Court decision. If you're born. here, you know, there are plenty of people that are, that are anchor

babies or that are here that have far more allegiance to their home country than they do to the United States. And if the home country comes knocking and says, well, we want you to buy this, we'll pay for it, but you have to do this. And if you don't, we've got your family here and we're going to, you know,

it'd be a shame if their business was shut down or your cousin ended up in jail or what have you. That's what they would do. They would just have a kid and then you would have a two-year-old by a house next to the White House in cash. I mean, there's nothing

stopping a two-year-old from spending $8.5 million. I think you have to, the signature might be a thing. But I get your point. Give it a crayon. Yeah, right. It looks like it was 1789, Pennsylvania started past a law to allow foreigners that were not at war with

to purchase and hold real estate. And then in 1798, it was New York. So it's state by state, 1873. And then eventually the United States in 1887 was like, actually this is, we don't need it anymore. Because back in the day, we needed foreign help. We needed foreign money. We needed foreign individuals. Now we don't.

Not really. Not like we used to. And then in 1887, they started putting federal restrictions on this stuff. Even if Congress did pull itself together and pass legislation, there will be workarounds. As soon as, because a law is basically, it's an illusion. And it's a big boulder tossed into a creek. and as soon as it goes there, it stays there, and the water moves around it. It's the same case with the law.

Any law, guarantee there are going to be lawyers that figure out a workaround. So even if they did pass a law, it's not going to be implemented with any meaning. You know, this is the- We're all slaves is what I'm saying. Sorry. You know, this isn't, you're right. But, you know, this is the perfect example. Like, do I want a government?

Okay, here's a hypothetical. No. Do I want a government who has the power to walk up, up to whoever purchased this and go, you don't own that anymore. Right. Right. No, I don't want a government that powerful. However, should we like, should there be a mechanism for the American government to stop the Chinese

Kabidist party from buying property a seven iron away from the White House? There should be. You know, I think that there should be some, I don't know what, like I said, I don't have an answer. But that's a golf shot. from someone who's bad at golf. I know, because we protect individual property rights because if there were 1,000 people in a city and 999 wanted to take

one guy's land, the federal government would say you can't. That guy still has a right to his property, even though everybody else wants to take it. But when you're not an American citizen... Can a non-citizen come here and buy a gun? No, I think... To purchase a gun, I think you have to be a citizen. But, yeah, I think you have to be a citizen.

Yeah, you wouldn't have to... We should extend that to a law. land too i don't know that's it all right i know what like i said it's kind of obvious just do the same thing with same thing as gun laws with well you can't do the same thing with gun laws as property rights because nobody in new york

would own any property right also the whole like if we're not at war with the country they can buy land thing is weird because if we declare war on the country then do we just seize all the property of all the German citizens we've literally seen i think we did that once before we've seized people's bodies and put them in internment camps i'm gonna say i'm pretty sure The whole West Coast did that in 40, 42.

Property, too, that they take Japanese Americans? Well, they didn't, they did. I don't think they actually took it because they got it back. That is, that is one of the, you know, the silver linings of some of the bad behavior the United States engaged in during World War II is, is it wasn't, it wasn't the same kind of thing that, like, the Nazis did or the gulags where you were worked to death. Like, you were, they rounded people up and put them in camps, but they weren't, like, trying, they weren't. attempting to work them to death and they didn't, you know, which distinctions that left us like to the people that hate America. It's like, oh, we had, yeah.

Not all of those are the same. It was bad and it was wrong. It was bad. We shouldn't have done it, but. I mean, maybe, maybe there would have been a Japanese uprising in California if we didn't. Probably not. I don't know. It's tough to tell, dude.

I think that allegiance was to the empire. Yeah, I'm, I'm getting like Man in the High Castle vibes right now. Yeah. It's a great show. It is. It's good. I don't, I'm not, I don't see any evidence that would have, would lead me to believe that the Japanese were going to rise up. Because most of the Japanese, most of the Japanese that were in turn, they were like, look, we're Americans.

You know, they weren't like, they weren't like, oh, you know. And they wanted to be America. Yeah. That, most people that came to America back then, they wanted to be Americans. It's not like today where there, where a lot of people that come here are looking for a handout. You know, the 40s didn't have the same kind of social services. Civil Rights Act hadn't passed. Like there, and there was a certain, a certain understanding that they were expected to

assimilate to become Americans. And that's why you had things like parents telling their kids, look, you, you, you don't speak Japanese here or you don't speak the old language anymore. We, we speak English because we're Americans now. And they really did, like, you hear that story all the time from, from young people, no, not young people now, but like, you know, people that are. are maybe boomers age or maybe a little bit older

that were like, look, when we came here, my parents, you know, made sure that we spoke English because we were Americans now. Nowadays, the attitude has come here and you don't have to become American. And so I think that your concerns are more more from a modern context

because people that come to America now, they don't assimilate the way they used to it. Back in the 30s, 40s, the people that came here, if they were able to get here, they were trying to become American. Yeah, I think throughout history, I wish I had some examples off the top of my head of like when you're invading a country that if there were, your citizens were in that country, if people that spoke your language lived in that other land, as soon as you get there, they're going to join you. So if all the Chinese Americans, for instance, here with even maybe some family in China,

maybe they don't if there was a war between the Chinese and the Americans and the Chinese landed in like Alaska and started coming through Canada. Do you think we should intern all the Chinese Americans we can find because it kind of seems like we should? Well, again, nowadays I think it's a different context. There have been so many people that have come here illegally. China has absolutely been using birth to room. I mean, tourism, they go to Guam. They go to. Last week, they did something on it.

Yeah. They arrested a bunch of guys. You know, basically China has been, there are people that can, or there are companies that will, you know, fly pregnant women to U.S. territories so that way the child can be born there. Once the child's born there, they get a birth certificate and then back China with them. And that kind of thing has been going on for, you know, 30 years or whatever. I don't know, I don't know the degree to which it's been going on for 30 years, but I know in the past, you know, 510, it's been, there's been, there's been, a significant increase. I mean, it is so crazy, the concept of birthhood.

There is such a difference between, like, people who are going through the process and want to be here for, and then, like, one to, like, even if, even if you use, even if you give people the best of intentions, you're pregnant, and then you go on vacation to New York for the St. Patrick's neighborhood and go into early labor, accidentally, not intention. you have every attention to going back, and you have a kid, he's an American citizen, that is bananas. Yeah.

That concept. I mean, that came up during the World Cup. The Flo Bellium, that literally happened to his mother. She came here on vacation. She was too pregnant to leave. Now he's an American citizen. Yeah. It worked out for us because he's really, really good.

But, you know, it didn't work out for us. It worked out for the team, I guess. Worked out for the team. But it's just the concept that that's available is bananas. I know. I don't want to implicate all Chinese Americans because that's horrific. That's what I know plenty of Chinese people, Chinese Americans. I don't want them interned if there was some conflict between the Chinese,

but how can you tell? How can you tell who's who? How can you tell where their allegiances are? And how do you know if their allegiance will or won't flip if the tide of war starts to change? Well, I don't think you could do that now because I think while they were interning the Japanese, a lot of people probably didn't know what was happening. You know, like they're like, you can't do stuff like that now. with social media and stuff

they'd be protest outside of each one of them and I'm not saying you should but I don't think that I don't think that that's a possibility now and I'm sure people are going to compare it to ICE detention facilities and no that's not remotely the same thing that's an unsurious argument

that to be honest with you like that's why I nipped it before you even had time I'm a legal citizenship interned you know not not illegal people that are not supposed to be here I was we've had some some discussions about that and I think that even

entertaining those arguments is a bad a bad strategy because if you entertain an argument you're implicitly saying well that's a reasonable perspective yeah you know I'm going to address this that's a reasonable thing so let me

explain why you're wrong that kind of stuff it's just like out of hand shut up whatever that's why I like to nip it right away I like to I like to call their argument out before they do that way yeah Yeah, man, it's more about legal, doing things legal, but immoral, like foreigners owning American land, in my opinion. Maybe I miss seeing something.

Like, we've hit such an inflection point with it that there has to be these sorts of drastic measures. I was talking to somebody the day, and they were like, well, how many immigrants should be led into America? And I said none, because the leak has gotten so bad that you must first turn off the faucet. Yeah. And then figure out where everything's at. and then well I'm not saying we can't open it again but what I'm saying is the problem has gotten so

complex you can also turn down the faucet and drain the sink at a faster speed than the faucet's pouring out technically you could have a slow immigration with enough deportations to well if it's a pipe in the wall I mean you gotta you gotta close the league before you just as it's damaging

the property shut it all down you know we've had we've had like the the administration says that they've had zero illegal crossings at the border since Trump became president since the they've kind of said okay we're uh you know we're actually going to close down the border i assume that it's probably not zero because there are still like tunnels that you hear about

and stuff like that but it's significant it's it's almost none and it's it's significantly fewer there's there's still visa overstays and stuff like that but the you know we should do everything we can to shut down immigration for a decade maybe maybe two that's a you know i i would have no issue with that at all and look like you said once you turn it off if it turns out five years from now we need something okay then we make an adjustment but we don't do that in america we either we either the pendulum never ever lands in the middle no it just it's it started the the pendulum started to swing up yeah just to get to each side going straight across to get to each side quicker yeah i i i think that the like we've talked about like the oh one vases and

stuff and and you know maybe you could let in 10,000 people a year but like we we don't need to have the we certainly don't need a completely open border like the like the Biden administration had for four years where anyone that could get here could get in you have no idea how many we were just talking about you know China and stuff there were tens of thousands of illegal Chinese entries yeah if you went down there were people that went down to the Darien Gap and there were just camps of Chinese people that were heading up to the border, you know. And look, whether people like this kind of, this kind of way of describing it or not, China is an adversary.

They are not a geopolitical partner. We are not rivals. They are, they're an adversary, and they are and will do everything they can to hurt the United States in any kind of way that they can that fall short of military conflict. They have brought in blights. They have tried or they've tried to smuggle in blights to hurt crops. They have done all sorts of nefarious stuff. You hear about industrial espionage constantly from Chinese nationals.

I think they invented a respiratory thing a while back. That could be. I mean, I heard something about that. I did. I don't know where. I think John Stewart said it. Yeah. Oh, and then...

That was a little fuzzy because... Talk about the elites. I'm not sure where they got the money for that, though. So that one's a little fuzzy. Only I had a diary to read. For the record, I'm xenocentric. I was like, you know, there's xenophile, xenophile, means I love foreigner.

Xenophobe means I'm afraid of foreigners. But best chat sheep, too, give me a xenocentric. There's got to be a better suffix. Zenocentric. Yeah, neutral about foreigners. I don't care. But I care about the rule of law and the sustainment of our social fabric,

you know, it has nothing to do with who you are or where you come from. Can you do it? That's my question. Can it be done? Zeno-centric. I like that. Yeah.

All right, we're going to jump to this story here from Fox News, talking about New York a little bit. New Yorkers take Zoran Mamdani's free bus promise literally as MTA loses millions in skipped fares. You know, Mom Dani told me the bus was free, so I don't have any money on me, you know? Yeah, from Fox News, political promises of free buses in New York City

are contributing to a spike in favor. fair evasion that is costing the city's mass transit system, millions of dollars, transit officials warned. In July, Metropolitan Transportation Authority, MTA, Chair Jan O'Liber blamed political rhetoric for fueling fair evasion, though he never mentioned Mayor Zoranman Dani by name. There's a trend that broke out, Liber told reporters following a meeting of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority Board. According to the New York Post, with malice towards none, I say all of the talk of free buses.

It has an impact. The MTA reported that paid bus ridership fell nearly 8% in June compared to the same month last year. During Mamdani's first six months in office, bus fare revenue fell by $31 million compared to the first half of 2025. Agency estimates show nearly half of bus riders now skip the $3 fare. Mamdani made a slogan, Fast and Free Bus is a major part of his 2025 mayoral campaign. However, the MTA is controlled by Democratic Governor Kathy Houchel and the state. rather than City Hall. While the mayor and Hocel unveiled plans on July 8th

to focus instead on speeding up bus routes, experts and union leaders say the free bus rhetoric has already contributed to fair evasion. You must be kidding me. I do not believe it. You mean people heard Mom Dani say, I'm going to make the buses free? And then they said,

I don't have to pay for the bus anymore. I'm shocked. Also, there's nothing the bus drivers can do about it. Of course not. They are instructed, as I think they should be. If you just don't pay, they just let you on. Because what bus driver is going to get shanked? You want to fight a guy over?

It's a tick over $3 that isn't yours. Not to mention, post-COVID, they're all encapsulated in like plexiglass. They're in like a cocoon all day long. There's nothing they can even do about it. Are they bulletproof? I don't know. Probably should be. No, but just breathproof.

Yeah. That was the main thing. That was the main... Stop COVID. They'll stop a bullet, but not COVID. But I'm sure they are. I'm not really sure, but this is... It's mind-blowing.

Because I wasn't shocked by the free part when he said it. I was shocked when he said he was going to make them fast. Because I just would love to... Almost every one of his policies can be refuted with a question from a second grader. You could just go out to you're going to make the... is fast. Nitris.

So you're... So are you suggesting you are going to solve New York City traffic? Yes. Because that's why they're slow. They're not slow because the bus is slow. They're slow because it's bumper to bumper

traffic on 7th Avenue at 6 o'clock at night. Like, you're going to get rid of cars in New York? They're going to give them legs like adats from the Empire Strikes back. Oh, yeah. I've seen those. Those things actually exist. I don't, was that the plan?

No, that was not the plan. No. But I think his plan was to just yell things and then go, man, kind of like when he said he was going to build more affordable housing in New York City. And not one person looked at him and went, great, we need more of that. Where? It's not like we have sprawling landscapes of where you could just build like Brasilia-style apartments. Everything this guy has said could be refused. by a first grader.

I really like basic question. Why would anyone want to review what he says? All the plans sound so good, though. Yeah, they just get to, we're going to make a fast-down free, slogan, like his housing director, C.O. Weaver, who tweeted,

we need to elect more communists. Yeah. And then there's people out there going, no one's a communist, and nobody do, no. There's actually one right there. And then there's one there and one next to them.

She didn't say we need to start electing communists. She said, we need to elect more. As to say, they were already some. Like Katie Wilson in Seattle that nobody's seen in like six months. I thought this was a good lesson for Zoran about human nature.

They will not learn it. What's it? Oh, I hope he's learning it in real time right now that if you offer someone something and you don't give it to them in a timely manner, they will seek to take it. Maybe that's what he wanted, though. Well, they're definitely taking bus rides,

aren't they? Yeah. Like you said it was free, you didn't give me free, so I'm taking free. That's what you said it was going to be. Well, it's the same thing because now he's got to go back to the state for more money.

because nobody's paying for the buses, nobody's paying for the subways. And then you'll see people on TikTok saying that he balanced the budget. And it's like, no, he just robbed the people from Buffalo. So now if you live in Buffalo or you live in Rochester or you live in Binghamton, that's six hours away from New York City, you're now paying for the seventh train that takes me to Cityfield. Question about New York.

I don't know. This is kind of new, but had they raised taxes in the state since he's coming to office? There hasn't been a budget yet, but there will be next to you. year or there will be the next fiscal year. Sure. And they, they're raising them an astronomical amount.

It's like, it is, it is insane what they're doing. But what they're saying is, oh, no, no, we're just going to tax the top one. And there's a reason why they do this,

why they say top 1%, top 10%, because it doesn't give you a defined number. So if, as I said before, with like someone like Ken Griffin, he's worth $500 billion, he leaves, now the 1% gets down here.

And when they leave, the top 1% is here. And they keep going down until they eventually get to regular people. And that's why they use percentages. Now, if they came out and said, we're going to tax everybody worth over $100 billion. I don't think anybody would have, all right. Well, maybe principally you'd have a problem with it. But as I said, Ken Griffin will live.

Right. If the top 1% is like 10 people and all those 10 people leave, Now the top 1% is like 100,000 people because of the, yeah, Jacob. And so, I mean, look, if we're all, we're all, nobody here's rich, I don't think. But if we taxed the top 20% of this room, one of us, regular people is in trouble. You know, I don't know. I assume everybody's regularly doing well here.

But, you know, I don't know. Right. They're not taking 1% of the wealth. They're taxing 1% of the population. Is that what they mean? I mean, it's a bit of an obfuscation. It's the top one. of what the earners are.

But if everyone, let's say everybody in this room made 10 bucks and one of us made 11, that would be the 1%. That's why they never give it a dollar amount. Because if they gave it a dollar amount, that would limit the number of people. By giving it a percentage, you can keep going down the rung. Because if the 182 billionaires leave New York City, now you're taxing the top 1% of millionaires. And when the top 1% of millionaires leave, now of 100 millionaires.

then you tax the top 1% of the 10 millionaires. And then eventually you're... Well, I mean, all of those policies, they end up like including the middle class, right? And basically hollowing out the middle class. You end up with a very rich, you know, top and then everybody else is poor. And that's something that you've seen, you know,

in every socialist society. There was no real middle class in Russia. in the Soviet Union. There's no middle class in Venezuela before Maduro was. And it'd be even worse here in America because of our idea of federalism. If you were well off of the Soviet Union from one end to the other, the rules were the same. Yeah. It was no option.

You couldn't move from if things sucked in Moscow. You couldn't move to St. Petersburg. I'm just naming it to the place. Here, you can just leave. So that's what everyone's doing. Well, states are trying or have flouted the idea of an exit tax. So if you leave one state, and California, obviously, is who did it. If you try to leave, you have to pay some kind of exit tax.

Now, there is an exit tax if you give up your citizenship in the United States. I think that an exit tax in East Berlin, possibly. And it paid to get to the other side. It was a bullet back there. But, yeah, the U.S. You have to pay an exit tax If you if you are giving up your citizenship You have to pay like 50% of your your

To give up your something like that I would do that Right they were the to in the in the in the in the in the In the United in the United States It's question it's actually like it's very very very questionable if that's constitutional because of the equal protection clause and stuff like that's one of those things that they would pass Knowing that the court would strike it down and then they could complain about the court. Yeah well I mean that another thing is you can you pass it

and then until the court hears it it's treated as law so all the people that were thinking about leaving are like well I got to wait until we find out what the court says you know and that could take and they keep in the taxes and stuff it is the amount they're taxing people

is unsustainable and they're doing it every which way and it's fees and it's not necessarily attacked but we're we're going to raise this Even the congestion pricing. The congestion pricing in New York City, they implement it to pay for the MTA. So between, I think it's, I want to say it's like 20th Street and 80th Street.

Or like the more touristy areas in New York City. If you drive into it, you pay a toll. When did that start? Was it maybe 18 months ago or two years? I've been hearing about it for a while. I don't know when it got implemented. And the best is they did is. So there's two ways.

Well, there's a few ways to get into Manhattan. You can take the Midtown Tunnel, which you have to pay for, or the 59th Street Bridge, which is free. So if you didn't want to pay a toll, you would just get off and take the bridge. It was a little longer. They started the congestion pricing on the other side of the bridge. So now there is quite literally no way to enter Manhattan

without paying for it. Is it like an auto? Yeah, it's like a, and now with easy pass, you don't even notice. It just comes right out. Every time you cross into the between 20th and area of street, some easy pass beeps on. on your vehicle.

Jeez. I definitely have the blocks wrong, but it's the more touristy areas. Like the residential ones all the way uptown where people actually live. Nobody actually lives in midtown that's where all the offices are. But those are the ones that got hit

with this congestion pricing. If you take an Uber through that area, does the Uber price then go up? Yep. There was one guy, the way they set it up, he lives on a one-way street on 59th Street. So in order for him to leave his house,

he had to pay the congestion pricing. It was like he and he couldn't go the other way because it's a one way street. This guy was literally like I could just I never could park on my block ever ever again because of course nobody thinks anything through but with

the mom down anything like there's no penalty and then you think to yourself then regular people when you if you're waiting in a five person line to get on a bus and you got your $3 metro card and the four people in front of you don't pay how stupid do you feel paying?

Oh my God, I used to watch people jump the turnstiles on the subway. I'd just be like, beep. Exactly. Oh, it was so annoying. You just standing in line at a CVS, and somebody goes walking out with a basket full of shampoo and this, that, and then you're standing in line going, who is the idiot here? And I tell you. And I tell you.

I'm the, if desperation kicks in and you're actually starting to suffer financially, that becomes that temptation like sky rockets. Yeah. For me, it did. And I was desperate. Oh, yeah. And look, and here's the important part when it comes to this. And I try to tell this to people.

Like if you're like a mother and you're stealing milk, you will not go to prison. You will not get arrested. If you're like stealing formula, it's when you're stealing shrimp or like lobster tails or, you know, expensive razors. That's those are, no one has ever, I don't think anyone has ever gone actually gone to jail

for stealing a loaf of bread. Like in New York? In New York. I think that if you got caught stealing a gallon of milk and you're like some 24 year old mother that doesn't have any money. I fairly certain whoever is, just go, take it. Like, real communism, that's coming soon, though, for them.

Yeah. I'm kind of with it. Well, that's with the grocery stores. That's why you have to show your ID. Oh, no, no, you've already hit your max. Because what's going to happen is people are going to go into the grocery stores that are 30% off. They're going to load up on fruit.

Yep. And then they're going to stand on the next street corner and resell the fruit. So they're going to limit how many you can buy with your ID. Yep. It's, and they're like, oh, no, that's not going to happen. I go, no, no, no, it is. It is going to happen.

You know how I know it is because everything else you told me wasn't happening? Happening. Yeah. Oh, by the way, you're going to freeze the rent? Yeah. All time high. Average one-bedroom apartment in New York City right now. 60.

Oh, that's the average. $100. That's the average. Wow. Oh, wow. $6,600. Or one-bedroom apartment. That's probably the size of this room.

What's a, in a average. Like in Brooklyn or Manhattan or upper Eastonite? Oh, wow. Oh, man. That's. It's astronomical. It's twice the price of Chelsea when I was in New York like in 2014. Well, because here's what we did.

We imported 6% of the population with illegal immigrants. And they got to live somewhere and they're government subsidized. So landlords are going to rent out to the government subsidy. So it raises the price of the market value. You're a New York native. right now? You live in New York now? I live on Long Island now. Do you think about leaving or do you just champion the city? Every time you guys invite

me down here, I get closer to not going back home. Oh, this is beautiful. Every time I go anywhere south of New Jersey, I just think to myself what do I am a moron? Like what am I? Like I said, I was speaking in Tennessee and I'm just looking at it, I'm like, I could, like, for a down payment

on a crappy home where I live, I could get a palace outside of Nashville. And every time I say it, my phone picks it up and I get like real estate. Oh yeah. I get oh I'm just outside of Houston look at this for 300,000 it's like a brand new three story with a with an Olympic swimming pool because you're like that's your focus you said at the top of the show like your main like focus is to help people in the schools in New York I I like to focus you have more

power in your local elections um than most people think it's actually not that difficult to win a local election if you know what you're doing like school board level level and stuff like that because you really have more control. I mean, a presidential race, you can do a lot for the state you live in, but you don't really have an impact on strategy. But your school board race, I mean, we won one school board race out in the Hamptons in a town, it was Amagansett. We won it with 16 votes.

Awesome. How many total votes were there? 42, I think there were. It was like nothing. There was three candidates. And we won it with like one. extra but like you have that sort of power on a local level and that's what i try to focus on because it's uh it it's actually that actually changes your life you know uh trump has an impact

biden's got an impact but you know who you elect to your pta board or you're your your uh your city council really impacts you a little bit more where's the way how can we emphasize that more it's tough because there's so much focus on national stuff even even even your maybe even You might know your member of Congress, but you don't know the member of Congress in the district next to you. Most people can't name their state representative. And that's really where all the decisions get made. Let me see Phil. Phil giving the nod.

How are we doing? We're going to chats? No, not quite yet. We got one more story. From the Guardian, Hawaii braces for a direct hit from Tropical Storm Lila. Tropical Storm Lila is set to hit Hawaii's big island with hurricane force in a matter of hours, bringing dangerous wind, heavy rainfall, and high surf in a sign of what's strengthening to a super El Nino in the Pacific in the Pacific may bring. I just want to know, why are you allowing this?

I didn't even know. It's what you don't know, you don't know. And I didn't know. I didn't know this. I just heard it for the first time. And this is the first hurricane documented in the since the 20th century when we started recording weather patterns ever to hit the big island of Hawaii if it's going to hit, which it sounds like it's going to hit. I don't think that it's the first one Well, there have been tropical storms before

but never a hurricane to hit the big island Really? I just read that earlier before the show I thought you didn't know about this This first I've heard of it, I don't know It's just another hurricane man How did you know that it was the... Errol research, I guess How did you know that it was the first hurricane

To hit the Big Island? Before we went live I looked at thinking about it And I asked if there Because I thought Pacific Ocean didn't have a lot of hurricanes Because it's so cold And generally it doesn't Like the Atlantic's known for hurricanes Because it's so warm

And the temperatures fluctuate Well, what are you going to do about it? We could pray. We could focus, meditate. But the thing about moving weather around is it's going to hit somewhere. You might be able to disperse it, but that pressure gradient's going somewhere. And it can do a lot more damage somewhere else. Pacific's real big.

Why is real small? I tried in that Florida hurricane. I focused and I focused. And then it went to North Carolina and obliterated a city in North Carolina. North Carolina is a long way away from Hawaii. No, no. There was a hurricane going to Miami. And I had all my friends there.

and I did a live stream for like two hours where I was focusing positive energy into the clouds to try and disperse this hurricane. And then all of a sudden the hurricane moved around Florida and smashed North Carolina and like destroyed a city. You know that city I'm talking about? Yeah, I remember the Black Hills.

Like a bunch of people were streaming in Miami. Like, yeah, the hurricane's getting pretty bad. And then it just didn't hit Miami. So good, thank you, God, for listening. But at the same time, it's like what you wish for, be careful. Do you ever think when you're trying to change, the weather that the weather's ever changed you? Oh, every day. No, no.

You know, I haven't thought a lot about that, but you're right. You're right. Actually, yes, because when you focus positive energy to disperse the clouds, you feel better. I do. When I focus negative energy to draw them together, it, I get miserable. I get tense. I get upset. You've got a few hours. It's supposed to, when is it supposed to make landfall? You can slow it down. I mean, the weather changes me all the time.

Sometimes it makes me very hot and sometimes it makes me... Changes my clothes. Yeah, for sure. It has that effect on you. When it rains, I get, I'm no longer dry. So Hawaii was last hit by a major hurricane in 1992. But not the big island. Oh, wow.

From what I am. Well, yeah, Hawaii, the big island. The big island. Oahu's not the big island. Hawaii's the big island. What? The big island is called the island. It's more than one island.

I'm feeling stupid right now. Yeah, Hawaii's the big island is Hawaii. Then there's like Oahu, Maui, Molokai. Like I had any, I'll tell you, I couldn't name any of them. Yeah, you're right. I mean, there's Oahu. There's Oahu, there's Maui,

there's Hawaii. There's, like, there's, I think the actual archipelago is like, there's too many islands for me to list off, but the ones that people know is like Lonakai, Wahoo, Maui, I think Molokai, Hawaii. I'll get out there. It's way more than I could name. And it's Hawaii with an apostrophe between the last two eyes, as opposed to the state.

Yeah, the state has no apostrophe, but the island does. Interesting. How they discern them. Okay, so you're, maybe you're, What I read earlier is not true, but I'm going to look again. That was strange. Man, I got a buddy over there right now. All right.

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life, not some, you're not going to be on IRL. You never know. Oh, actually, that's true. We've had people from the Discord on IRA before. I'm promising nothing. He's making promises, guys. He's going to hook you up. Um, yeah, so let's see here. a game dev says Phil said the thing I'm happy now well I appreciate it I appreciate it I was doing crime yesterday driving in the left lane I thought of you very driving like 80 because I was trying to match traffic and the thing said 70 but everyone was going 80 and they say you're supposed to drive with traffic yeah doesn't you love that how they

pass you and then get in front of you when you're going the speed limit and you're like well what am I so crazy and like even the driving instructor would be like it's better to stay with to drive the speed of traffic yeah and to drive the speed limit if they're going a different speed like it's so confusing but that's The United States, welcome to... What's a speed limit? I made a six-hour drive once with no working speedometer. I just followed everyone else's speed and just hoped I didn't get...

That's fine. It's safer. The technique. Taylor Lorenz says, how will Ian make reparations if he's unable to spare Hawaii from the hurricane? Reparations? With great power comes great responsibility, Ian. What am I repairing here? Well, if you can change the weather and you don't change the weather,

and then this hurricane... hits Hawaii, it's your fault. That's like saying Elon Musk should give his wealth away. No. If you could give your wealth away, then why don't you should give your wealth? No, no, no. There's no reason that they're not. If you can change the weather and you can save lives by doing it and then you don't, you know,

Spider-Man said this. When you can do something and you don't and then the bad things happen, it's your fault. I just, I think I'll reiterate. I think that's the argument that they use against Elon to give his wealth away. It's not. You don't think so? Because Elon's wealth, Elon's wealth is actual property. Like he owns stocks.

So it's my body, Phil. No, it's not. Well, I mean, your body, yeah, but it's an ability. Give it to me now. It's an ability. Body is not your own, dude. Controlled by the spirits, that is true. It's an ability you have, you say.

Ian's body. Ian's choice. And it doesn't cost you anything. Oh, it costs me energy. I'll buy a lunch. So between the two of us, we can save Hawaii. I'll buy a lunch. And then you can save Hawaii.

You got to save Hawaii. I haven't been there yet. Yeah, what do you do? I want to go. All right, I'm going to start focusing. I want to have a drink out of a coconut. All right. Thanks, thank you, Taylor, for that question.

Let's see. What do we got? What's the best? V car back? Lothar says, what's the best misfits Doyle song in your opinion? Oh, man. No, we're not saving fat booty Latinas. They are being deported.

they're all going back they have to go back can they be reported last I think that it's it's an opportunity thing when you can when you can snatch or when ice can snatch them up they got to snatch them up I swear dude when I start to focus energy into a hurricane I can feel the hurricane

inside of me yeah did you pee your pants no but I'm about to bro no I can feel it I can feel the torrent within my within me I mean I don't know how I'm sorry in my court, it's like, it gets really, really intense. That's so cool. It's not the first time it's happened either.

I got to come down here more often. Tiger Tank says for Phil. You're missing out, dude. Tiger Tank says for Phil, we should keep all the big booty Latinas and depart all Muslims. I think that he meant deport. Look, anyone that's not a citizen has got to go. I don't care what their religion is.

I don't care the size of their booty. They got to go. If you're not a citizen, if you're here illegally, out. Got to go. Got to get rid of them. What if the booty situation like was like 01 status? Well, if they have an 01 visa, then they're here legally. Yeah, for a hot body, that's not enough to get an 01.

Probably not. How hot are we talking? Exactly. I mean, look, how the government... Nines and above aren't illegal. How the government... I think I saw that on a Trump executive order. That's how the Vikings work.

Someone might have memed it. I know I saw it somewhere. The criteria that the government decides. for the O-1 visa, I am not, I'm not an authority on that. The O-O-1. The O-1 is like special circumstances of like super-smart people or whatever. Maybe if you were correct, super-attractive people. But it would have to be only tens, though.

Like O-1s are, we got to keep the numbers down, the number of people that are... O-1 is literally 10 backwards, you know? There you go. Good point. Good point. Good point. We definitely don't want to keep ones. No. No.

No. Although, if you want to get, I will say, If you want to get women on board with deporting, just make sure that everybody that's allowed to be to immigrate is a very attractive woman. Women will be like, hey, all got to go. Get him out of here.

Women are vicious like that. That'd be pushing Margo Robbie right back on that boat. See ya. Get out of here. Get out of here. Let's see. Your mom's juicy. He says, Phil, why are you G-A-E? I think it's gay.

You know, I just had a kid. We didn't purchase the kid. Like, she actually had the kid stuff. So. Your name is juicy? The person's name is your mom juicy. Your mom's juicy. Your mom's juicy.

Yeah. Mom's juicy. All right. Let's see. That got a laugh. All right. Let's see. Would you give, some, Serge X, says,

would you give up your EV car to bring back V8s? Make V8s great again. You can still get V8s. They're probably not as regular. but I mean, if you're talking about trucks, there's plenty of V8 trucks out there. But I mean, and if you really want a V8 car, there's plenty of cars that are V8s. I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee. That was a 5.7 liter.

Man, that thing was great. And I got a Wrangler. It's a six-liter. Or, I mean, it's a six-cylinder. And I was thinking that I was going to save gas. Nope. Didn't save money on gas at all. Just didn't have the power.

V8 means eight cylinders? Eight cylinders. Or do they stop making them? No, no, I think they're probably less common, but, you know, I mean, like, I'm pretty sure Corvettes are still using the V8s. I'm pretty sure, you know, your muscle cars are, you know, even modern muscle cars, if people aren't going to berate me for using that phrase nowadays for modern cars. But, yeah, I definitely wouldn't give up my Tesla. My Tesla is so much faster than a V8. Like, it's like two seconds to, I think it's two seconds to 60 miles and a amount.

It's so fast. Cannon on wheels. It's stupid fast. That's wild. It's ridiculously fast. How long does it take to charge that? On a supercharger, if I'm down to like 5%, usually like 30, 35 minutes. Oh, wow.

The home charger, I just plug it in every night and you just leave it on. So when you get home, you just plug it in and it's always plugged in. And just as long as you plug it in, it's basically always full, you know? I wonder why somebody doesn't put a solar panel on top of a car yet. I don't know. Yeah. The car batteries themselves will be able to become photovoltaic with the graphene and modern, like, meta materials and stuff.

That's going to be super cool. And they'll be batteries. You drive around charging your engine. You charge you a battery. Agam dev says, Phil, is tank running local or using a cloud, which model, if you don't mind me asking? Tank is a local. I bought a Mac, and so Tank sits on the Mac. I use Sonnet for most of his operations for searches and stuff like that.

I use GROQ, GROQ. It's a free AI and it works pretty well. And if I want to use, like, if I want to use, what is it, not Mythos, the one above Onus. Opus. If I want to use Opus, I can use Opus. I think I can use actually any of the models that Anthropic uses because I have, I just have API key, so I could tell them to use Fable if it's available or Mythos or whatever.

But for my needs, Sonnet's fine. I think that most people think that you have to have or you want to be on the cutting edge, the frontier models. The frontier models are important when you're dealing with like really cutting edge stuff. But if you're just, if you're using it for like, you know, search or hey, can you tell me the story about this or I need to know more about this particular issue or whatever, you get a really, really good result with something like Sonnet. And then what was the other part of your question? and yeah, I use Claude, I use enthropic, but I thought about going over to GROC, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna grok the GR-O-K.

Did you call it Tank because of the hero from The Matrix? No, I just thought of something that was not human. Tank was like one of my favorite characters in that movie. He was a badass. He was just so righteous. I totally forgot about that guy. Yeah, that guy was awesome. Tank, dude.

No, I just wanted something that was not like, that wouldn't sound like a pet or like a human being or whatever. So, and I thought, as a robot name that would kind of fit, you know. So yeah, that wraps most of the stuff we're going to do here. Kevin, thank you for joining us. Absolutely. Where can people find you?

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