Timcast IRL - Candace Owens Says MILITARY INVOLVED In Kirk Killing, Says Tim Pool's Brother Tried To SHOOT HIM w/ Jamie Kennedy
Episode Date: December 10, 2025Tim, Phil, Elaad, & Ian are joined by Jamie Kennedy to discuss Candace Owens saying the US Military is involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Tim Pool & Jamie Kennedy discussing God and Demons..., Trump's historic poll numbers, and Bonnie Blue arrested in Bali for making adult content. PRE ORDER SILENT NIGHT: https://trashhousechristmas.com/ Jamie Kennedy is an American actor, comedian, and producer best known for playing the horror movie-obsessed Randy Meeks in the Scream film series (1996–2000). Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Jamie Kennedy @JamieKennedy (X) | https://linktr.ee/thejamiekennedy
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Candice Owens has yet another conspiracy theory.
It was the U.S. military that was involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Now, I'm just waiting for her to accuse Pepe Sylvia.
But shout out to the Super Chatter, who started off the show with that joke.
I stole it from him.
So shout out of it to I'm not your buddy guy who Super Chatter wrote when the show started.
She also has another conspiracy theory that I survived a shooting by my own brother,
which is an absolute fabrication, and this is nuts.
Because I've been very heavily criticizing her,
She's now claimed that I'm in financial distress, suffering some kind of personal issue.
I don't know, maybe it was the shooting at my property.
I'll give her that one.
And that I'm trying to sell my company so I'm auditioning for Zionists.
If that wasn't the best she could come up with, she then today claimed I survived a shooting committed by my own brother, which is the most insane thing anyone could ever possibly say.
It is, I mean, accusing my own brother of trying to murder me is the stupidest thing imaginable.
I don't even know where her brain is.
And I just, I have to say this, even though I know you're not really supposed to.
But I'm not going to speak on behalf of my brother, who is not a public figure.
But holy crap, accusing someone of committing a shooting to murder a family member is,
well, let's just call it beyond actionable, which is crazy that she would, I don't get it.
Maybe she's really depressed and just trying to destroy everything around her.
I don't know. So I guess
we're going to talk about that again.
It does seem to be
the bigger of the news stories
and everybody's writing about how I
had an unhinged rant slamming the table
screaming about it the other day. So
agreed, but I guess that's news. So we're going to talk about that.
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Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more is the star of Son of the Mask,
Jamie Kennedy.
Wow.
How are you, buddy?
I'm good.
Thanks for hanging out.
What a night.
Bro, it's good.
Pool water is good.
That's a good song.
It's good.
It's pool water.
Yes.
I like it.
You brought up Son of the Mask and at first I said,
shots fire, but then I don't know.
Do you like the movie or don't like?
the movie. I'll be honest with you. C-minus.
C-My, thank you for that.
That might be better than a lot of other people gave it,
but I didn't, I don't mean this to be rude,
but I didn't have a lot of expectations
for it as a, you know, I mean, it's like a goofy
movie where a baby, you know,
it's the mask. And a dog. And a dog.
Well, the dog in the first movie did too.
But it was, you know, it's like popcorn
for like I'm sitting there. I was laughing. I'm not, it's not
Lord of the Rings, but, you know. Okay.
Well, I mean, they're cut, I'm glad
I drove two hours to come out here.
Start with that. Fantastic.
No, but you know what?
It's crazy you say that because the movie when it came out was hated.
Yeah, of course.
But now, of course.
Jesus, two for two guys.
Drink some pool water.
And then now the new generation likes it.
Yeah.
Which is wild to me.
Well, so it's not a movie that you should put against normal movies.
Right.
You know, and this might be three for three, but it's so bad it's good.
You know what I mean?
Loki, I understand that.
Yeah, yeah.
I understand that.
Can I just say this?
We set out to make a certain type of movie, and we lost control, meaning we didn't have the final say.
It's on my YouTube.
You can watch the documentary made about it.
Well, so you're a comedian.
How else would you describe yourself?
Actor?
I mean, I hate labels.
I'm a comedian.
I'm an actor.
I'm getting into podcasting.
I don't know.
Just a person that likes to express himself.
But probably comedian actors most of them.
Well, right on.
It's going to be fun having you here.
I appreciate you coming down.
I appreciate you having me, man.
Absolutely.
I really do.
This is awesome.
We have Ian.
Hi, everybody.
Up in it.
Crossland in the House.
Good to see, Jay.
How are you, buddy?
Fantastic.
Let's move it along, Elad.
Good evening, everybody.
I am Aliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
What's up, Phil?
Late to the party.
Hello, everybody.
My name's Phil Avanti.
I'm the lead singer, the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
Oh, we'll start with the big story.
We've got this from Mediaite.
Candice Owens dropped at another Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory.
The U.S. military was involved.
Ooh, really.
Owens in a series of Instagram posts on Tuesday
said she was ready to blow this case open.
Oh, after three months, she finally is going to do it,
based on a tip she received from a service member the night before.
Quote,
It feels like today will be the day that the government can no longer deny it.
Charlie Kirk was assassinated and our military was involved.
I can't wait to share this information with you guys today.
The commentator who has more than 5.6 million YouTube subscribers
and the 10th ranked podcast on Spotify.
So the scoop came to her just hours after she went to church and prayed for the final piece to be revealed.
Her prayer was immediately answered, she said.
In the very first email she saw in her tip inbox right before going to sleep, she did not share more details.
Her claim comes after Owens has spent the past three months sharing conspiracy theories about the killing of Kirk.
Those include claims Kirk was killed by pro-Israel henchmen who were upset.
He was starting to have rational thoughts about Israel in the months before his death,
as well as the claim billionaire activist Bill Ackman made threats against Kirk
fours a apparent shift away from Israel.
And then we have this tweet from Sarah Fields.
According to Candace Owens, this is who to blame for the assassination of Charlie Kirk
based on her own public statements on X and on her podcast I've kept track.
Okay.
The French government, including Emmanuel Macron and Bridget McCrone, the French Foreign Legion, 13th Brigade,
the Gendarmerie Intervention Group, Israel, Israeli operatives, and Benjamin Nanyahu, Jewish donors,
the U.S. government, feds, and the FBI, the deep state, the CIA,
turning point USA executives and leadership, including Tire Boyer, Andrew Colvitt,
Erica Kirk, yes, his wife, Blake Neff, Pastor Rob McCoy, Josh Hammer, Pierre DuPont and DuPont family, Stacey Sheridan, Freemasons, the broader French interests, BBNET and Yahoo, with Israel connections, Egypt and Egyptian operations, e.g. Planes and Joint Exercises, Bolsheviks and anti-Christian forces, Maroon-Shirted individuals, suspected operatives or military.
TPUSA Associated influencers, e.g. Alex Clark. Are you done yet? There are only three possible reasons for her nonsense, either she's evil, mentally ill, or complete grifter.
Which is it because a truth teller is not even on the table anymore.
So, gentlemen, this shocking revelation that the U.S. military was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination, what do you all think?
They missed a partridge in a pear tree.
Ah, yes.
It sounds like she finally figured it out.
I don't know.
It sounds like she was making fun of Bridget McCrone and then the French government threatened her life and now she's just terrified and just doing what she does more because that's made her a lot of money and got her adulation and her fans tell her they love her.
I have to read this from, what is it, say metaphorist?
Tim Poole can't pronounce French words.
Agreed.
Is that ch?
I can't pronounce that word.
I can't say French things.
I can say la chat es solitabble.
That's about as close as I'll get to saying anything in French.
I wonder if Crackhead Candace will eventually get around to blaming Tyler Robinson for the murder of church.
No, I already figured this out.
I already figured this out.
Do you know what the end of the season finale of this season is going to be?
It's going to be Charlie Kirk was responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Oh, he planted it.
It's like, it just goes all the way around until it just creates, like, Oroboros.
Traveled from the past.
Traveled from the past, the future.
He shot himself because he was, he was tired of dealing.
I, you know, I don't necessarily want to say too soon because we're kind of just making fun of Candace being crazy.
But I would expect her to go that far.
I mean, the U.S. military, the French Foreign Legion, Israel, men in Merchards.
If you accuse enough people, eventually something will be right.
Well, you know, my theory is, do you guys know, do you guys know.
what Three Stooges syndrome is?
No.
You familiar this one?
Three Stooges, and let me pull this up for you, because we've talked about on the show before,
Richie knows what I'm talking about.
Three Stooges syndrome.
It refers to a state of being overwhelmed by multiple tasks, diseases, or problems,
so that nothing gets done.
And I have an image that I can show you explaining exactly what this is.
Let me just pull this one up and zoom in for you.
What an episode I came on.
There you go.
It's demonstrated by this doctor who took oversight.
novelty germs and tried to push them all through a single door at once, and they all get stuck
and can't get in. Thus was why Mr. Burns had every notable disease, but wasn't dying. My theory is
that Candace Owens is engaging in what we would call three Stooges syndrome as for defamation.
She's trying to defame as many people as possible so that when they all file the lawsuits at the same
time, the courts will be overwhelmed, and they won't actually be able to finish any of the trials
until 40, 50 years from now.
Hmm.
You know, this topic is just, you know, the Charlie Kirk death.
I don't know if you were very close with him.
I wouldn't say very close.
It rocked me to my core.
Really?
I knew nothing about him other than he was a political guy.
Yeah.
And to see that image and the video absolutely twisted me up.
So it's, you know, it's horrible what happened to him.
and, you know, I've talked about it a lot.
Yeah.
How would you describe yourself politically?
Like, not really that political or anything?
I was never political, and I became politicized because I did a movie called Roe v.
Wade.
And by doing that movie, I was put in 2021, and they said I was a right winger.
Really?
And I did nothing other than being a movie about abortion.
And through that movie, I had learned.
a lot about abortion and Planned Parenthood,
how it started, Margaret Sanger,
all the other things that came up with it.
And I was considered,
I did an interview with a paper called The Daily Beast.
I'm just an actor and comedian, bro.
I didn't know anything.
I didn't know there was left and right
and all these agendas.
I hear about it.
And then they said all of this stuff,
then I was like, well, that's not true about me.
That's not true.
And so then I was kind of demonized
through that one article and then it started.
And then through COVID, I started
voicing my opinion.
But I consider myself a dude who's just,
I don't know, normal, which is
in the middle, common sense, but now
I don't know what I am.
This is normal, but the
normal people in a crazy world look crazy.
This is where most of us are, right?
Ian's not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
In fact, anybody who met him today
would be like he's kind of nuts, but they'll call
him right wing for simply being on
this show. They'll call me right
for simply, it's exactly as you described.
Yeah, it's like there's just common sense things.
And if you question, the thing is that we should be able to talk about everything and we
should question everything.
And when you are not allowed to question something and you're labeled, that's insane to me.
So I say, don't be loyal to a label, be loyal to logic.
So there's, you know, I don't care what party you are, religion you are.
After Charlie Kirk, I said this on my podcast, a lot has changed for me.
I don't care about gender, religion, democratic affiliation.
I care if you're a good person or not.
I think that's a big thing that people have to understand.
And they're going to go, well, what does that mean?
I think just common sense of being a good person.
Yeah, there are a lot of people that watch this podcast that are going to basically be like,
oh, well, duh, Phil.
But the situation that we're in now is if you say things that step out of line
with the left,
they just essentially say
your right wing.
And it doesn't matter
how many issues it is.
It doesn't matter if it's a lot of issues
or just one of their,
the issues they hold dear.
Bro, let me say this.
I love that you're promoting your album
through this whole thing.
Hilarious.
Is that it's changing
and Hollywood
is way more
common sense than people realize.
They just don't want to say it
because they don't want to fuck their money up.
but their money is changing because more people are like,
this is too much.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
We're getting back to normalcy,
which I would consider an 80s movie.
Those were great.
Some of the best movies ever made.
Yeah.
Making more of those.
Exactly.
Bring me to Sherman, Illinois.
Exactly.
Making loud comedies and just that type of stuff.
So it is changing.
Where's Groundhog Day?
You know what I mean?
Yes.
I love this point because it's one of the greatest movies ever made.
It's not a big budget.
It's literally just a comedian.
and human actors, and they use film to create a time loop.
They don't do special effects, no crazy CGI.
It's one of the best movies ever made.
All movies today are just lowest common denominator explosions.
You rarely get...
Well, that's not true.
There's a lot of amazing art.
Smaller movies.
Sure, but I mean the point is the big studios aren't releasing these in theaters,
and they're not becoming cultural icons.
No, they are what they're doing is,
instead of making $10 million, $100 million movies,
they're making these super movies with $200 million,
and they're making way.
last movies. When I was coming up, you could audition for $10 million comedies a week.
Wow. Now they don't even make comedies. Yeah. So it's, so it's offensive. Well, yeah,
which is insane. But it is changing because of voices like yourself and other people that are
saying, we're not offended. All the gatekeepers were being offended for people that weren't offended.
So comedy is the first thing to kind of loosen up the culture. And I think it is changing.
You said something about how you felt demonized for questioning.
I think, or that you were questioning for questioning.
Yeah.
And that it should be okay to question.
I want to bring that up because we're tying into what Candace is doing.
And that's her argument is I'm just asking questions.
But I tell you, if you ask the widow of a murdered man, did you kill your husband?
That's punishment.
That process is punishment for the widow.
So, yeah, you might think you're just asking questions, Candice.
But at some point, certain questions are more than just questions.
And I think then that argument is used against people.
when they're honestly like, why do I have to get a vaccination?
Why?
You know, and then they'll be like, hey, some questions are too much to ask.
No, I don't know.
There's a balance.
There is a balance.
You can sci up culture by asking certain questions.
You certainly can.
Would you say that there is a tasteful way to ask even sensitive questions, though?
I mean, if you're asking a question, that's one thing.
But if you're going on a podcast and posing it to your audience, is the question really
the important thing, or is it about
actually garnering a larger
audience or feeding, you know,
meat to your audience, that that's the kind
of topic that they're interested in.
Because if you're seriously interested in finding out,
in the context here, we're talking about Candice,
Candice could reach out to
Erica and talk to her.
So it's not, in my
opinion, it's not that Candace is
looking to answer questions. She's
looking to pose questions in
order to entertain her
audience. Listen, I note
we need to do. Every time we end a segment, here's my plan. I'm going to go like this. Well,
it's a really interesting story. I guess we're going to have to wait and see. So thanks for hanging
out. Smash the like. Hold on a minute. I just got an email. Let me check this out.
Oh my God. Is this special tips email? Oh my God. This email. I just, this, this email,
I'm going to have to do another video. Don't miss my show at 1 p.m. when I expose what I
just received. It's terrifying.
And then you end the segment and everyone's going to go, oh my God, what? And then I'm
going to put on an Instagram post where I'm like, Ian did it. That's all I'll say. And nothing
else. And people are going to be like, whoa, what does he mean? And then like the 1 p.m.
segment is like just something stupid about Bonnie Blue getting arrested for banging a thousand
dudes. That happened by the way. In Bali, yeah. Yeah, she got arrested. She got arrested in Bali.
One thousand guys? No, no, no. That was it. She banged a thousand dudes in the UK. But
she tried banging like 17 dudes in Bali.
and they arrested her. So she's going to prison.
Oh. She's in prison now.
No. We'll cover this story later anyway.
I got her out of jail.
Let's, uh, I got to do it. I got to do it, guys.
We got to jump to the next story because, uh, welcome to the drama.
Welcome to the Candace show. Uh, so Candice Owens has claimed that I survived a shooting committed
by my own brother. That's what she posted. And she's doing this because she knows she's
intentionally misrepresenting the actual story. And she is, and she is,
is lying because this is what she does. So let me just, here's a tweet from her. The shooting Tim Poole survived
in December 2020 was committed by his brother, by the way. His brother was the one who fired the
weapon on his property. He cannot deny this fact. I will tell you unequivocally right now,
there was no shooting that I ever claimed to have survived where my brother fired a weapon.
There is no circumstance where in any capacity my own brother tried to murder me or cause great bodily
harmed to me.
No, don't get me wrong.
I'll be careful because we're brothers and we fought when we were kids.
But my brother has never tried to end my life or hurt me in any way, in any very serious way.
You punched me in the arm once, but come on.
Candice is doing this because she is an insane person who lies.
So I want to make sure I can say this very, very clearly.
The shooting.
She put in quotes, okay?
I never claimed there was a shooting in December of 2022.
a shooting as if to imply someone came here to shoot.
I never claimed I survived a shooting in December 2020.
What actually happened?
In December of 2022, I posted on X at our property where we were not present.
Intruder broke in and a staffer opened fire on these people.
I never used the word survived, nor did I claim that my life was in danger or that there was a shooting.
She is intentionally misrepresenting a tweet I made, which has resulted in people saying things like this.
One of her followers, she didn't say he tried to shoot you, she said it was your brother who had run off from security after breaking into your place.
If it wasn't Chris and he wasn't involved, just state that as a fact, why twist what she said?
Okay.
My brother Chris never had to break onto the property.
You know why?
Because he has a key.
Actually, we ask him to be here sometimes.
there's no breaking in.
In fact, he can tell the security to leave if he wants to, although I wouldn't recommend it.
My brother is actually a manager at the company who does work here.
This is an insane fabrication, an absolutely insane story.
They've started posting photos of my brother, who's not a public figure.
This is how insane it is right now with what Candace is doing.
And the crazy thing to me is, well, you know what, I'm not going to say it's crazy.
I was having conversation with a prominent conservative personality.
It'll be up to them to say if they want to, you know, I was on the phone with them.
They can mention it on their show if they want to talk about this because I don't want to go into greater detail.
But they were just saying she's burning out.
I mean, it's one thing to talk about the McCrowns in a way that can never be proven.
Like Bridget McCrone is a man.
What's Bridget McCrone going to do?
Like drop trial on camera?
Never going to happen.
But she's gotten to the point where to one up her narrative every day.
It has to become increasingly crazier.
So today, it's the U.S. military was involved.
Like sooner or later, as a the joke we made 10 minutes ago,
sooner or later, it's going to go back to like Charlie Kirk traveled from the future to end his own,
like some ridiculous, insane narrative.
Literally now, because I criticized her and she took issue with it and then made up lies about me,
she has tweeted, she put these in quotes.
I want to make sure this is very clear to everybody.
The shooting, in quotes, I guess technically you can call it a shooting fine.
Even though I reported, intruders came in and a staff member who opened fired on them,
that I, quote, survived.
I never said that word.
I never said it in this context.
That is not a real quote.
And if you want to make the argument that she's using air quotes as, it's meant to represent air quotes.
It would imply that I'm dead.
So I'm not dead.
So survived in quotes makes no sense.
I never said that word, never used it in reference to this.
In December 22, it was committed by my brother.
She is outright saying there was a shooting that I claimed, I quote, survived.
that my brother committed, this is psychotic.
It is beyond defamation.
It is absolutely unhinged and vile and evil to claim my own brother would do anything like this.
And it's absolutely, absolutely false.
She is an evil person.
Now, what I can say is we do have this video.
Probably shouldn't play it, but I'm going to play it for you.
Some guy called the wrong sheriff's department and then asked them whether or not there was a shooting report.
to which they said, no, and he says that proves it Tim's lying. The only problem is he called
some random sheriff's department. Cam Higby called the correct sheriff's department, and they
confirmed it. And so I'm going to play the video for you, and you can hear it straight from
Cam Hibby. Cam Higby. He censors pertinent details. And so I respect him for doing that. And
here's the clip from Cam. No worries. Hi, this is Cameron Higby. I just wanted to call and
verify receipt of a report that should have been filed with you guys or an incident?
No, I have the name of the person and the incident.
So there was a shooting in Poole, Tim Poole's compound, and I wanted to make sure that you guys have,
that you guys are aware of that.
It would have been last night, so it would have been the night of 12-5.
It might have been reported the following morning.
Thank you for holding.
I'm so sorry.
Yep.
No worries.
That's totally okay.
Yeah, we just got bombarded with an issue here.
I totally get it.
Now you guys have more important things to do, I'm sure.
Third party caller.
Okay.
And what road do you say that was?
Okay.
Got it.
Check if that would be the right road.
So there's a third party caller and was it, was it that incident I described where somebody
drove up and.
kind of just shot at the place.
Amazing. Okay.
Well, I'm glad that's on your guys' radar.
And that was in B. Right?
Amazing. Okay. Thank you so much for verifying that. I appreciate it a lot.
The funny thing is, Cam has confirmed report independently.
I have not talked to him about this.
And they're now claiming still that it didn't happen.
This is how insane these people are.
So let me just make sure it's very, very clear for everybody.
This is also distressing.
the fact that people are calling local police departments all over the place and trying to figure out where we live and that the police would be like, yep, here's all the information you're requesting. It's kind of crazy they do, but at the bare minimum, you know, Cam verify this. Here's what I love. So some guy calls the wrong department and they're like, we got no reports of that. And then all of these candestards are like, whoa, Tim lied. Cam Higby calls the correct department and they go, yep, we've got confirmation of that shooting at Tim Poole's property. And I think they actually said,
shot at the property. And now they're going, how do we even know that's real? How do we even know
this is a real phone call? Prove it. Prove it. That's typical of conspiracy theories, though.
It's it doesn't matter what information you present or what evidence you present. It's always looked at as,
oh, this confirms. There's always more questions that they're going to ask because they already
believe one narrative and nothing that you present will ever change their mind.
So this is the main reason why I highlight these things. At what point do the people who follow
Candice go, well, she must have been lying.
They don't.
I mean, like, she's just putting out fake things, but people just follow her anyway.
So is this about the most recent shooting?
Yeah.
This isn't about the one in 2022, there was another shooting?
Yeah, in 2022, this is before we set up shop and built the studio.
We weren't here, and it was early in the morning, and it was either two or three guys broke in,
and we had staff on site and our staff opened fire on the intruders.
Subsequently, we said on the show, don't come to West Virginia, we will shoot you.
Like, don't break into our property. You will die. And I don't want that to happen.
In this video, you hear they say it's third party. Right. We have a security company.
Security company handles everything. We don't think about it. So we have guys all over the property with weapons.
It's a beautiful site to see like a dude standing there with an AR-15. You know what I mean?
It's a beautiful site because I love guns and America.
It is kind of distressing that it has to be that way.
It's still cool because I like guns, you know.
But I'd prefer not to kind of not to live this way.
But so, yeah, third party called in.
The new lie they're using is why did it, why was it reported the following day?
Because he said on the fifth and the police report, it's midnight.
Like these people don't understand this.
The filing was around two in the morning just after it happened.
Our security team went on alert and called the police.
and they were patrols.
And yes, a report was filed.
And then the following morning, after we had our bearings together, and we knew that everyone was secure, and we had filed with the police and all that.
I put out that tweet saying this is what happened.
So the question I have is, when Candace claims that I used the word survived a shooting and my brother committed that shooting, that is beyond defamation.
I mean, this is insane.
Anybody who knows my brother knows this is just ridiculous.
Absolutely not.
He's a veteran.
He's an army veteran.
He's not going to shoot me.
He never tried to do anything like that to me.
It is shockingly offensive and psychotic.
But I think for Candace, she has to continually want up the narrative to create this mystery box drama podcast she's doing.
So now it's, she said, Tim Poole is going through personal issues.
He's having financial troubles.
He's trying to sell his company.
His brother tried to kill him.
It's just soap opera.
Now imagine all of her followers being like, whoa, Tim Poole's brother tried to kill him.
Like, whoa, that's what, that's the world they live in.
My buddy Robbie, man.
Robbie, Robbie, I know you're listening.
He was like, dude, it's just, he's like, it's like, it's like a mystery drama, man.
Like, I got to watch every episode.
It's like, you don't know what's going to happen next.
You know, I don't take it that seriously.
And I was like, dude, these are real people.
She is using as puppets in her soap opera.
Aaron McIntyre, an interview with Tate earlier this morning, he said, you are not a real person.
You are a character in her drama.
And her audience don't see you as a real person.
They see you as a fictional character.
They don't understand this is real life.
And someone just fired shots at our property.
And now Candace makes a thumbnail with my picture on it,
Cash Patel and a mystery person silhouette saying,
who benefited from Charlie Kirk's assassination?
That was the purpose.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but also her face.
I put this up.
That was funny.
Who benefited the most?
And it's her face really big on the thumbnail.
And then it's like Tim and Cash next door.
But no one's going to assume that's her, you know what I mean?
I know.
It would be silly, but I mean, she's, who benefited the most?
Candice Owens will tell, and it's like, we'll tell you.
And then the couple other smaller pictures was like, who benefited the most, Candice?
Yeah, this is what she did.
Who's benefit?
The billion dollar question, who stood to benefit from Charlie Crook's assassination?
And mystery person, Tim Poole and Cash Patel.
And Candice Owens, like the biggest, most prominent picture in that title is Candice.
It is accidentally hilarious.
You know?
And like subconsciously, maybe even.
I don't, I'm not like she intended to make it seem like she was the one that
benefit of the most, but I mean, she did. It's her face right next to the question. I'm not even sure.
How does Cash Patel benefit by having the press coverage of solving the actual crime by finding the
actual murderer of Charlie Kirk? Like, is that how he stands to gain here?
He helps his career. Well, so by finding the actual murderer of Charlie Kirk, yeah.
So what she'll end up saying is, no, no, the thumbnail just represents what the show is and it
has nothing to do with the title or the billion dollar question, right? In reality, we're not stupid.
we know exactly what she's doing.
The billion dollar question is the thumbnail,
who stood to benefit from Charlie Crook's assassination?
If it wasn't meant to imply I or cash,
she wouldn't have included the silhouette man with the question mark.
She would have shown people that she,
she would have shown Turning Point USA individuals.
People she actually claimed were benefiting.
She's striking that pose.
That anime pose.
Yeah, that's the Nikola OK boomer pose.
Bro, this is crazy.
I just want to stress this.
She said there's a shooting committed by my brother.
I guess wild.
That's wild.
I'm just here to ask some questions too, man.
No, that's a statement of fact.
That is a false statement of fact.
That is a psychotic false statement effect.
My brother never committed a shooting that I claimed I survived.
So what are you going to do?
Well, I'm not supposed to legally say.
Okay.
Everyone knows what that means.
So in 2022, there was a shooting, and she's saying it was your brother.
So let's clarify, right?
There's a lot of shootings.
Well, yeah.
So let's clarify.
shooting is probably a fair verb when our staffer shoots an intruder.
Right.
However, shooting committed by Tim Poole's brother as if to imply he was trying to kill me
and committed as if to imply it was a crime.
So a staffer here fired a shot.
She's saying that she put shooting in quotes, I don't know why, and survived in quotes.
Okay, I never said I survived a shooting.
So, let me ask you this, because I don't know enough about this beef.
Weren't you guys friends at one point?
I wouldn't say that we ever were like friends.
It's weird.
The media I said that, too.
Like, I'm only learning about this stuff because of Charlie Kirk and the different world that exists.
So I thought, like, you and Candace and Charlie and you guys all talk to each other and different.
Sure.
So, but now it's, the road is blazed, correct?
I would, I don't think it's fair to say that Candace and I were ever friends because she had been on the show.
twice. She was on your show, though.
Yeah, for sure. And I'd been on her show.
With Charlie, however, I actually
texted with him.
I had his number.
And I always try to be careful and say
that the, you know, it's tough because I don't want to be disrespectful.
If I were to come out and say Charlie and I
were not friends, a lot of our mutual friends
would be very offended by that statement. Because like, what do you mean,
dude? Charlie believed in you and he worked.
Like, you guys teamed up. You were here at M-Fest.
He texted you. But we didn't go
golfing together. We didn't hang out. We didn't anything like that. So with Candace,
never talked to her. Booker, booked her on the show. She came on the show. We talked.
I said, thank you. Thanks for coming. Goodbye.
It was professional engagement. Right. Yeah. With Charlie, it was a little bit more than that.
Like, I would text him. I texted about some stuff. And, you know, like I knew him. I knew
Erica. And our team were also really good friends with his team and worked with them on a regular
basis. So I always try to caveat that, which is kind of a, I think, awful thing to do. But
I think it's fair to say we're not drinking buddies. We weren't golfing or anything like that.
But I think it would be hurtful to probably his friends and family if I said I wasn't friends with him, you know.
Yeah, but I think there's a combination of boredom, political disinterest and fatigue that has created this world.
And I do believe Candace Owens has a largely female audience. And now I'm going to be as offensive as possible as I can.
because someone pointed out to us, I think it was on the show, that Father Ripperger,
you've never heard of him, but he's a very famous Catholic priest, exorcist.
And we did a show with him about exorcisms.
And he said, demons refer to themselves in the plural and the third person.
So they say, we are legion.
It's in the Bible.
Demons refer to themselves as we and us.
One of the things that you'll notice with a possessed person is they refer to them.
themselves as we and us. Who else does that?
Craig out, Candice. That's right. Candice refers to herself in the third person. I'm not kidding.
She tweets in the third person. This is not a joke. This is meant to be serious. I'm being
half joking because I'm not a Christian when I say that she's a demon, but she does use the we
and us when she refers to herself, but she also tweets in the third person. She had a tweet at me
where she says to blame the pending 2026 midterm loss on Candace Owens is wrong or something like that.
And I tweeted like, why is she referring to herself in the third person?
That is another characteristic of demonic possession.
I hope that was offensive to someone claiming to be a Christian.
It's certainly a lack of self-confidence if you disperse like responsibility for your belief into the people around you.
And say, like, we believe that you, I don't even like speaking for my wife.
I'm not actually married at the moment.
But when I find it gruesome when a married couple is like, well, we think.
think that, I'm like, bro, let her speak for herself.
Tell me what you think.
Wait, are you Christian? No.
Are you Catholic?
I lapsed Catholic.
You what? Lapsed?
Yeah, that means, I grew up Catholic, but
when I was like 12 or 13, my family. Do you believe
in God? Yes. Okay.
Yeah. So for me,
and demons, too, and angels.
100%. This is, you know,
the Charlie Kirk thing on the demon side
of this. I do believe
he was
that whole thing was touched with the divine,
meaning that the amount of sickness of people dancing on his grave
literally showed themselves as demons.
And I'm not a Bible thump or anything.
I don't know enough about it.
I was raised Catholic.
But do you agree that the ugliness reared its head?
Yeah.
Like, I've never seen anything like that.
I think it's demonic.
Yes, 100%.
There's no other way to describe it.
So we're on the same page with that.
Yeah, you know, we get into the debate quite a bit about Christianity in the Bible,
and I always, I'm not a Christian.
However, I do believe in God.
I actually do believe in most, I would say most of the tenets of Christian morality in the commandments.
Ten Commandments is pretty spot on, I agree.
Yeah, they're fairly based.
There are debates over the limits of divinity that I have with Christians,
why I don't consider myself Christian.
Meaning, what does that mean?
Limits of divinity.
So there is the omniscience.
What is it called the omniscience paradox or whatever?
Wrong person, ask.
Well, this is like the Holy Spirit.
No, this applies to Judaism all the same.
Can God create a boulder so heavy, he himself cannot lift it?
And Christians believe the answer is no, and I believe the answer is yes.
I believe that paradox is a concept of God.
God has the ability to, like our understanding of logic and paradox is of God, and God's
decision as to whether or not it is or is not.
Wait, God is God, so he can do anything.
Yeah, Christians believe that God is the logos of the universe, therefore he is bound
by his nature.
Maybe bound isn't the right word, but he is of his nature, and his nature is logic.
Ergo, it is illogical and paradoxical to create a boulder you can't lift.
So that's Christians are in that camp.
I'm not in that camp.
But yes, I do believe that there is a widespread demonic something.
thing going on in this country?
In the world, bro.
In the world, bro.
I mean, listen, I'm older than you guys.
I grew up in the Catholic church.
I've been in, but I've been in Hollywood for over 35 years.
And since COVID, shit's gotten weird.
Yeah.
And I'm telling you, Charlie Kirk, like, it was this, my eyes were just, it just,
because people were just actively celebrating the most horrific things.
thing you can imagine.
Well, are you familiar with basically the last three months of what Candice Owens' show has been?
Somewhat, yeah.
I mean, I don't follow it like you, obviously, because you're involved.
But, yeah, I mean.
Well, only recently, because I started calling her out more.
And certainly Crowder called her out on a show a while back.
And then Ali Beth Stuckey and Ben Shapiro, many people before me.
But I think I did it in the most, what's the right way to say it?
I don't want to say unhinged, because I think it was.
but it was aggressive and dramatic and emotional.
We'll call it that.
So a lot of people then were starting sharing this clip
where I'm like slamming a table calling her a vile content.
That was last night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean look, we're on edge.
Someone shut the property.
Her conspiratards are claiming it never happened
and there's no amount of proof that'll prove it to them.
They'll believe anything as long as she says it,
even though she never gives any proof.
Do you have footage of it?
We do, but we're not putting it.
So here's the impossible circumstance.
It's up to you.
I mean, but if you just show the footage, you'll shut everybody up.
Show the people trying to kill me where our cameras are placed.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
And show them the entrant.
My bad.
Exactly.
My bad.
My bad.
So I actually, the first thing I did was I talked to security team.
I said, what can we release?
And they're like, nothing because now everyone knows where the cameras are and they know how to get in the property.
And I said, okay.
Well, Cam Higby called the sheriff.
And the sheriff said, yes, Tim Poole's property was shot at.
And it's not good enough.
So here's what they said.
Cam Higby is who?
He's a reporter.
He's the guy that was just on the...
Yeah, he's the guy that was reading.
Could he get...
What if the cops said it?
Had what?
If the sheriff said, do you...
Did they report...
The FBI said that...
Tyler Robinson killed Charlie...
And they don't believe it.
I don't know how much any law enforcement, you know...
This is the point.
Maybe when we leave, because we're planning on relocating immediately, we're...
This is our last week here, and then we're having emergency meetings.
Because I'll put it...
It's not just us.
We talked about yesterday.
A lot...
Like, Charlie's dead.
Many other prominent personalities are getting death threats, close calls.
Benny Johnson, Laura Lumer, Matt Walsh, cat turd, had a guy show up.
I don't know about all their houses, but at Benny's house, they believe he was armed,
and he was threatened to kill Matt Walsh's family.
So we're having emergency meetings over how we navigate moving forward because it is getting that serious.
Maybe when we leave, I'll have no problem being like, yeah, here's the footage.
But here's the thing.
Our security guys are like, you really think they're going to believe it.
They're going to claim it's AI.
There's like literally nothing you can do.
Very true on the AI.
Here's what's crazy.
Do I get a little bit of a gold star for showing up this week?
Yeah, of course.
Just as much as the rest of us.
This is your world, bro.
I'm with Max, who's out there, and I go, and Max sends me the thing, and I wrote, bro.
And I go, I wrote that, and I go, is it still on?
He goes, yeah.
And I go, are we going?
It goes, yeah, these things happen.
People get shot.
That's Max meaning, but no, to his defense, it's like, it's that, dude, I would never have done this a year ago.
But it's so insane.
And before the show, we're talking about civil war, how you were educating on civil, whatever.
Civil strife.
Civil strife.
That's my saying, right?
It's fucking insane.
I'm a comedian, if, you know, ask some people.
And just speaking out, if we're not allowed to give our opinions on things without this insanity, what world do we live in?
So it's, I came here because we have to be able to talk.
And you are, you know, whatever you're moving on, you're moving on, but you are talking.
And it's important.
We think there's a, you know, they say when God closed the door, he opens a window.
And so one of the biggest challenges that the independent media space, the right wing space,
whatever I want to call it, even though it's really weird to say like, you're like, so far,
you're like to me to come out here, people are like, oh, he's right wing, all this stuff.
So, Marry, you're not, I don't think you're super right wing.
Well, this is a thing.
You're moderate.
I'm fairly.
Yeah, I, you know, but fairly liberal, actually.
But left and right, actually.
But left and right is not about your politics anymore.
It's about your tribe in this conflict.
So what we've found is it's a mistake to have all these different little islands everywhere.
And so we've been talking with the Rumble guys and we're like, we need a studio.
We need like to bring everybody together.
And we need to, you know, Fox News has this.
You have, you're talking about all.
other people like-minded like yourself to be in one hub.
Yeah.
So like a crowd, or I'm not saying you're saying, you're saying Laura Lumer and all in a place.
Yeah.
Like a news network.
Lumer does her thing.
Exactly.
But more like a channel with news programming and sports and gaming or otherwise, the reason
being we all can't afford security.
This is the big challenge, right?
So, you know, Candace is not there lying, claiming that we're under financial distress.
Yeah, because people are trying to kill us and we have to pay, we have to hire
insane amounts of security. Sure, that's absolutely financial distress. The show-wise, we're very
profitable. We do great. So the issue now is, as the threat level increases and we have to hire more
security, which is not something you should have to consider for the most part, but this is the world we're in,
then yes, the costs become, you don't have to pay for it. You can run your business. It's not a
core function of producing content. It's a core function of survival when people are shooting at you.
If we do a single hub, you get one security company that covers all of the content. So these are
just part of the conversations we're having on these emergency meetings, but I think it's potentially
awesome because it could mean that content is better in bigger studios with more with more crossover,
new personalities, new shows. I think it could be massive for Rumble and I'm very excited.
It is upsetting because we have friends, we have family, we have community where we are, we've been
here for years, we have neighbors, we have stories, and we either go into semi-hiding where I only do
solo shows or maybe a shows with a couple of people, but no guests, no public location, hidden,
or we bring the shows to a facility that is secure.
It was a, you know, Gary the other day had a great idea with a penthouse.
Because then you can't even get up to the top floor.
So we're exploring all of these ideas of how you do a studio that is secure.
Do you know what that is, bro?
Do you know what he's referring to?
A penthouse, yeah.
Blade Runner.
Have you seen it at least, have you seen it recently?
No.
Have you ever seen it?
No.
Bro.
Can you give us the rundown?
Bro.
He knows what it is.
On his back, in the sun, what do you do?
No, basically...
The turtle over there.
Help him off the road.
Well, there's replicants, but that's a whole other thing.
But basically, this is not a crazy thought, which is, it's a cement tower, let's say, 200 feet.
And at the top is a penthouse, and you can't get to it.
So society's gone completely apocalyptic, and you can't...
It's just like cement.
There's nothing to grab onto.
You see that movie?
Elisium is also like this.
So it's a wild thing, but it makes sense.
But my question is, has it ever been, are we seeing everything or has it, or is it extra?
Meaning, has there always been this much threats in political violence?
No.
Or are more voices are speaking out more now and we see everything, because we see everything.
There's more threats.
There's always been ever, correct?
Well, not than ever.
We're not in a full-blown civil war, but we are in a-
Meaning, like, there could have been people in Cuba if they had Twitter going crazy in the 70s saying all this.
What I'm saying.
In the early part of the 70s, there was something like 1,500 bombings in the United States.
You know, so it's Ebden Flood.
Like, the Olympics, yeah, remember that.
Yeah, it's Ebden Flows.
Like, there was a bomb that blew up in the Capitol in the 80s.
Well, like, I feel like, I'm sorry to cut you off, but I feel like as a kid, when we would see nightline, it was the only thing we would see.
But we would see a lot of violence from over there, wherever over there was.
United States was more unified in the late 80s, 90s, kind of than it has been since the aughts
moving forward.
For an independent podcaster is very huge.
I'm saying you're taking these massive amounts of security that you need.
So this is, and you're saying this is a common thing with a lot of people.
Well, yes, there are a lot of people that are in this space that that receive death threats.
I mean, like, look, I'm not even like the lead guy here or anything like that.
And there are people that send me crazy messages and stuff like that.
So, like, it is fairly normal to be in this space and receive, you know, either hate mail or threats.
99% of the time, they're not to be taken seriously.
You don't even talk about them.
But clearly, there is a small 1% of the time where someone will actually go out and do something crazy.
I think it's shown, it's shown like with the attempts on Donald Trump's life, the two last year or, yeah.
And then.
Almost three.
That was like a third.
Yeah, there was a third guy that was talking.
And then there was someone that ran up on stage that arguably it could be four.
But yes, it has ramped up.
But that's why I said earlier it ebbs and flows.
Yeah, I agree with Phil.
It ebbs and flows.
But I think a major factor here is social media and the proliferation of social media.
And it allows people to voice their opinions on this.
And unfortunately, it's become totally normalized and celebrated these murderers at oftentimes.
On the left, I think, you know, people think the ends justify the means.
and according to how things are going right now on the right, as Tim has said before, again,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been, you know, the most impactful in a generation.
Going back to Luigi Mangione, people celebrate this shit. People celebrate Luigi and say,
you know, that our health care insurance situation in our country is shit. How many people did
the, did Brian Thompson, I believe the, the health care, United Healthcare Insurance Company's
CEO at the time, he said, how many people did he murder by denying different claims and whatnot?
So people justify this violence towards people, and I think it increases the violence that we see towards people.
It's reinforcing itself.
Also, we're coming off the heels of, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention, a lot of Zionists are being and Jews are being targeted for their pro-Israel stances.
We've seen a couple of people be murdered outside of an Israeli embassy, I believe, in Washington, D.C.
Not too recently, Josh Shapiro had his building firebombed.
and people believe that these people deserve
to have violence brought against them
because of their political beliefs.
And I think we're gonna continue to see more of that.
People believe that they could take,
we believe in vigilanteism.
And I'll say in Hollywood too,
I feel like we really do romanticize the anti-hero
and the idea of the vigilante.
But I mean, to-
Am I wrong?
I don't know, I don't watch a lot of movies.
Dude, you're not wrong about the anti-hero,
but Charles Bronson, there was,
reason. There was context there.
He was, you could get behind him.
I don't know with that. How old are you?
Talk about Death Wish. I have it. It was a
vigil. I don't watch. I do politics, but I don't
do Hollywood. Well, you brought it up. I'm far
I'm closer to your age than you probably
He brought it up. I'm closer
to your age than you realize. But the anti-hero
I believe. The anti-hero in Hollywood
was a character that you get behind.
And even executive would go, well, what's his
justification for? What you're saying
is, is it these people would
justify and just, well, people like me are going, that's not justifiable.
People justify anything.
They're insane.
If you're pro-Israel that you support genocide.
If you support Luigi Mangione, you're against, you know, health and care.
A lot.
Nowadays, the stuff that you're talking about, he's got chicks out in the house for him.
It's crazy.
Right now, the stuff that you're talking about is all a narrative that's been built by the
left that's really been forced down people's throat for the past 15 to 20 years, right?
The idea that people that are somehow aggrieved by society or grieved by,
the system, they have the right to enact violence on people that they perceive as being the
oppressor. And that's a narrative that you see across the left. It's the far left narrative being
made mainstream because of the, because of basically the things that are being taught in colleges
and the narrative that you see overall on the left. It's fascinating too because I think we're
seeing a lot of violence from the far left and LGBTQ groups. A lot of these disgruntled trans people
allegedly Tyler Robinson had a relationship with some trans person and one of the reasons for the attack allegedly was because Charlie Kirk was so staunchly against the transgenderism, the ideology of transgenderism.
You can hear it in their vernacular, the way they talk, they say things like, you don't think that I have the right to live because you don't believe that a man can become a woman.
The way that they perceive things is you don't validate the belief.
that I hold, and that means that you're enacting violence against me.
And instead of acknowledging this very real threat from these trans, literally mentally ill,
far leftists, we have crackhead Candace, yapping her mouth about this random bullshit making
reconsider, I don't know, the, maybe the Civil Rights Act was a mistake.
Maybe forcing businesses to accept everybody was a mistake.
Maybe giving the legal groundwork for reverse discrimination in our country was a mistake.
You can't demonize a whole group because of radicals.
Well, I mean, that's true.
You can't just say LGBTQ.
No, no.
You can't just throw the whole group.
But you can demonize the radicals.
You can demonize radicals.
But to your point a lot, there's a real clear polling poll that came out today that said that Trump's polls, Trump is polling higher than Obama or Bush on this, on this day in their, in their.
Should we pull that?
Bring it up.
Bring it up.
I think it's a battle of rhetoric.
because many of these trans people with a lot of mental illnesses will say that Charlie Kirk was advancing a genocide against trans people because he was denying their identities, therefore violence against Charlie Kirk was justified.
So, like, it really depends on how you view it because they say that Charlie Kirk was literally being violent to them.
He never actually was, but that's how they describe his actions and rhetoric towards them.
Yeah, but let's pull this poll.
Take this out.
Trump polls higher than Obama and Bush on this day in history.
they're trying to claim that Donald Trump is failing.
And I certainly have my criticisms and I have no problem criticizing him on the Epstein stuff and being off message.
However, when, you know, I'm talking to this liberal guy and he says, what's Trump's approval rating?
And I'm like, well, in aggregate, it's, you know, 44 or whatever, 43.
And he's like, that's right.
It's low.
Obama was worse and Bush was worse.
In fact, surprisingly, Trump is doing better than the past two presidents for the same time in his presidency.
I think this lends itself further into the conversation we're just having about political violence escalation.
There are people in this country that are liberal or on the left.
They danced on the grave of Charlie Kirk.
They celebrated his death.
They celebrate these acts of violence against Nick Sorder and Andy No.
And they don't want Trump to be in power.
They call him a white supremacist, a fascist.
But Trump is winning.
Even when they come out and say, look how poorly he's doing in the polls, it's like, oh, wow.
Actually, he's better than the past two presidents in the same time.
he's doing very well relatively.
This speaks to your point about how the things that Candace is focusing on and making
these wild claims and stuff, it totally detracts from the actual important issues,
which are things like this, right, like to keep people motivated to get out and vote for
the conservatives and the right in the upcoming election.
Cheap housing.
We could be talking about graphene housing so easily.
Graphene and concrete, you make, it's,
50% more durable, bulletproof walls,
bulletproof, explosion-proof walls that are cheaper and lighter.
You don't build houses out of concrete normally.
You build the foundation.
They're doing it now.
You build the house out of wood.
Have you heard of super wood?
It's like stronger than steel, but made out of pure wood.
Sounds like someone's working for big graphene.
He is.
Oh, yeah.
I'm a carbon man.
Definitely is.
How much stock you got in graphene companies, Ian?
Not much.
Only a few grand right now.
How much you want to bet?
Ian bought a bunch of stock and a bunch of graphene companies,
and that's why he comes in the show.
He's just pumping it.
No, I would start my own.
Insider trading graphene.
He is not insider.
Nobody thinks he would.
Nobody would think he'd be business savvy enough to do it.
We underestimate you, Ian.
Here's the thing with this.
I, you know, by playing clubs and, you know, all over the country,
this is not surprising to me at all.
It wasn't surprising to me.
I mean, just play Greenville, North Carolina or South Carolina.
Play Scottsdale.
But I also play New York.
and New York, Trump,
you can say New York is as blue
as you want. It's more
red than people realize. L.A. is more red than people
realize. So, yeah,
the problem is if you said you like
Trump, you got shamed
for it. So what do they call it?
The silent majority? So that's the thing.
And so it's like, I'm not
surprised at all. Here's the thing
when people come from Trump and they go,
oh, six failed businesses
or whatever. You try to start a
business. I can tell you stocks
that I've lost a lot of money in, not graphene.
And I've also made money.
This is what you do.
It's a learning process.
It's like going on stage and having a killer joke every time.
No, you're going to bomb.
It's like making great movies every time.
Corny to Timson and the mask was a miss.
So listen.
It's just like, I don't believe all this,
but I do believe this because the people do feel this way.
Yeah.
And to your point, like we were saying earlier,
it's important to keep people motivated
because this is something that we talk about a lot.
Like, if the Republicans lose the majority in Congress,
this coming election,
the Democrats are going to shut everything down.
They're not going to,
the president is not going to be able to do any more of his agenda.
Everything that he gets done up to that point that they can undo,
they will undo, which, granted, when he's the president,
they're not going to be able to because it's been executive orders.
But go ahead.
Is that like I'm just taking my ball and go home?
I mean, it's literally, that's insanity.
Yeah, it's totally tribal.
It's totally tribal politics.
That's insanity.
If the conservatives lose, if the conservative candidate loses in the next presidential election,
because most of the things that Donald Trump has gotten done or gotten accomplished are executive orders,
it's all going to be undone.
They will open the borders again.
You will have a massive influx of illegals and immigrants and stuff.
And you're going to see the DOJ start targeting people that are in the conservative sphere.
They're going to go after, they're going to go right back after parents that care about what their kids are learning.
school because they've already done all this stuff. And it'll be just like it was during the
Biden administration. And this stuff matters. And the Candace stuff, I know people care about it.
And they, they, you know, it fills the, the void they have for entertainment. But that stuff doesn't
affect the vast majority of Americans. People are scared to speak out because they know that they have
an audience overlap with Candace. I know some of these people. I know people, you know,
people, you know, listening, know who some of these people are. I remember back in 20, I think
2020, 2019, when we were in Jersey, I went to Best Buy. And I can't remember what we were doing by
monitors or something. And I met some guy who was like, hey, you're Tim Pool, right? I'm a big fan.
And I took a hand, and then he immediately starts talking about weird Q-in-on stuff that I had no
idea what he was talking about. And I was like, ah, this doesn't sound right. And he was like,
yeah, you know, Q said this or that or otherwise. And I was like, I don't know about all that
brother, that sounds made up. And he's like, no, man, you just got to, you got to look at it.
And for me, it was kind of like, and I didn't realize those kind of people followed me.
I mean, I guess I kind of did, but it's not like the core of our audience. And I think the reality
is, most commentators have a percentage of their fans that are going to be low-reading comprehension.
That's not meant as an insult, but low-reading comprehension, easily gaslit or manipulated.
Candice is building her show around this,
intentionally attracting these people.
That's why she says we and us.
They even come to the like, she's talking about me and our movement.
And it's like, she doesn't care about you.
She's doing this to build audience.
The reason why, what was her quote?
She said, I'm not a flat earther or around earther.
I've abandoned the cult of science or something like that.
Yeah.
Because she doesn't want to offend anybody.
She's going for a low, it was something like that.
It's lowest common denominator.
But let's say you're a Twitter personality or a YouTube.
YouTuber. You might be saying like, look, 15, 20% of my audience are big fans of hers. I'd rather not
piss them off by saying anything. So nobody wants to say anything. They're all, they're all scared
of losing audience. Surprisingly, it seems that there are only a small amount of people who aren't
scared. Nick Fuentes being one of them. I actually love that clip where he said, someone said, why did
you stop noticing when it came to Charlie Kirk? And then he was like, I'm not even going to pretend
to rationalize what you're saying. You're an idiot. And then he goes,
respectfully, no, disrespectfully.
You're a more.
I thought it was fantastic.
He's not going to play that game.
Ali Betstock came out and was critical of Candace Owens and politely, much more politely than I would have been, or that I was, and Ben Shapiro.
But there are a lot of personalities right now.
They don't want to see their subscriber count go down.
They don't want to do it.
Well, if that's the world.
My whole point was like, I'm not interested in living in that world.
My interest is this.
Is Donald Trump doing a good job or not?
because I'm not about the Republican Party.
I can't stand the Republican Party.
I mean, look at Marjorie Taylor Green being ousted and fighting with Trump.
I think she did a, I think she was one of the best we had, although I think it's fair to have criticisms of her.
Totally fine.
But she came on this show and talked about how in Congress they weren't actually voting on bills.
And she, along with Massey and others, forced them to come and vote on these bills.
And then Trump casts her out and the infighting is stupid.
But that being said, I remember COVID.
I remember the vaccine mandates and the lockdowns, and this was largely led by Democrat governors in these states.
They put COVID patients in nursing homes and killed people.
Trump is not completely innocent here either, but it was the Republican Party that offered up the pushback.
That Ron DeSantis in Florida was where AOC was vacationing to get away from her own state's lockdowns,
that if you were voting for a Republican in Congress, they were going to oppose the mask mandates.
They were showing up to Congress refusing to wear the masks.
That's why I think they're the Washington generals to the Democrats Harlem Globetrotters.
I'd still prefer they win, even if it is just a doorstop and not an actual effort,
you know, not an actual battering ramp like the Democrats are.
I will take it and we can then focus on forwarding the line.
But what we're seeing with the Candace conspiratard reality show garbage,
we're going to lose the midterms.
And her only response was to refer to herself in the third person claiming that it's stupid to blame her for it.
Wait, if you're not, because you say you don't subscribe to any party, and I don't either,
but I'm considered to the right, which I definitely probably am.
What do you, but you still support the Republican candidates because they're the best ones.
You're an independent.
Well, right now you want to see Trump go again and you want to see that.
You know what's interesting is my family grew up Democrat in Chicago, like most people who live in big cities.
And then I became fairly moderate, independent, slight libertarian leanings, but the
Libertarian Party, I'm not a big fan of because they're kind of wacky.
And that meant I was like, you know, I usually vote Democrat.
I thought the Republican Party was stodgy, like McCain?
Give me a break.
Mitt Romney?
But I didn't vote for Obama.
I voted for Obama the first time, the second time.
I did too.
I only voted once, and I voted for Obama.
Me too.
So my first time voting for a president was Obama.
Second time I said, I'm not interested in this.
I didn't get.
Same thing.
Yeah, me too.
Same thing.
And it's because I was traveling around the world, and people forget this.
Bush was made fun of so much.
And America, they said, oh, you're a joke.
So I'm like, oh, you need to change your progression.
So I voted for Obama.
We get Hillary versus Trump.
And I just remember I was hanging out in, where was I was hanging out with Frank up in just north?
Was it Connecticut?
I don't know.
I forgot where your studios, Frank.
Shut up.
And we were watching the debate.
And I think it was where Trump said you'd be in jail and we were laughing her asses off.
And I was like, I didn't voting for any of these clowns.
Hillary Clinton wants to go to war with Russia.
I'm not interested in World War III.
and Donald Trump is a is a joker.
I'm not interested.
I abstained.
Trump wins the whole time.
I'm basically saying Trump's bad office decorum.
I'm not,
the office of the presidency should be better than this,
but they are lying about him.
Then the election,
the primaries come up for the Democrats,
and I'm basically like,
let's go.
Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang,
donated the maximum.
2020, I'm like, let's go,
Tulsi and Yang.
And what do they do?
Joe Biden.
So what did I say?
I ain't voting for that guy.
Donald Trump releases his second party, his second term, sorry, plan.
And I said, I'd be a hypocrite if I ignored all the things he's pointing out, like getting rid of DEI in contracting, no new wars, which he's been really gone for his first time.
I said, okay, I'm going to vote for Trump on this one.
I still think he's lacking in certain areas, decorum, particularly.
Do you mean decorum meaning the way he talks?
Yeah, he's a dick.
But don't you love that he's just blunt?
I would say this.
Even to this day, I would prefer a noble leader riding on a steed championing to his men.
We will be a great nation.
And he speaks clearly.
J.D. Vance has it.
But Donald Trump saying piggy and stuff, it's Trump.
I'm used to it.
I laugh.
You know what I mean?
First of all, you're talking to me.
So if something's funny, I'm going to forgive it first.
That's my language.
So yeah, should he say, Piggy?
No.
But was it funny?
Of course.
I laugh my face off.
But here's the thing.
I've got to push back on this.
Hilarious, bro.
Is that you say decorum, but can't you just say it's all pomp and circumstance anyway?
Like, there's shit going on behind.
I actually think that he took the office of the president and made it real.
Meaning that it isn't all.
It's all bullshit that we had up into him, and now he's showing warts and all.
Like, dude, think about it.
No, I can respect that.
Think about all the dirty things that presidents have done behind closed doors.
I think J.D. Vance does it.
Have you seen him what he tweets?
I like J.D. Vance because I think he's smart and chilling.
He still does what you want, but he's also real.
I like him a lot.
What did you do?
He called someone a dipshit on Agile.
That's okay.
Yeah, no, he's got the professionalism.
who can sometimes dish it out.
So it's kind of a best of both world scenario.
But, you know, when it comes to the Republican Party, here's the issue.
I don't completely agree with them on policy, and they're feckless and ineffective.
But here's the thing.
The reason I brought up my support for Democrats in 2020 is as an independent, I do not foresee a future
where a viable Democrat appears that a moderate could vote for.
Dude, use English.
AOC is a lunatic, and Zohan, Mamban,
makes promises he can't fulfill. Elizabeth Warren lies and proposes policies that make literally
no sense. And Chuck Schumer the same. Nancy Pelosi is a crackpot. Thank God she's getting out.
What candidate do the Democrats have where I can be like that represents the moderate individual?
There's nobody. Well, I know. And I live in California and we have Gavin. Oh, yeah. And there's no way
I'm supporting him. The Democrats you would support are working for the president. Tulsi Gabbard.
Exactly.
RFK Jr.
Our D&I and the HHS secretary right now.
Are they Democrats?
They were.
And Tulsi and RFK Jr. are great.
Exactly.
So are they just Democrat in name but not really?
No, they're not even Democrat in name anymore.
Tulsi was in the party and then left the party because she was being treated so poorly and then was asked by Trump.
And I think RFK was always independent.
RFK ran as a Democrat, I believe, then went independent and then joined the administration.
I'm going to double check.
And that is what a damning thing to happen to a political party.
That is, see, the thing is because you guys know way more than I do, the two-party system do you agree needs to be disrupted.
Yes.
And how is it, will it ever be disrupted?
No.
I don't know that's possible.
I like the two-party system.
Huh?
I like the two-party system.
I think the two-party system is a good thing.
I think it helps prevent extremism.
I think the moderates in both parties are able to normal, like to regulate.
But there are extremes.
There are extremes.
For example, the Democrats have the socialists, but they, you know, kind of malign them within the party.
And like, there are racist in the Republican Party, but the Republican Party largely, you know, maligns them.
So they keep their extremists in check.
And if you are popular enough in the party, you could take over the party, which is what President Trump did.
President Trump didn't come from, like, an interest group within the Republican Party.
And he managed to take the whole thing over.
And if you want to take over the party, I feel like it's there for the taking for both parties.
And both parties also evolve as time changes.
I think we're going into a realignment right now
where both parties are going to be very different
in 10 years than they are now.
I'm sick of the Republicans doing nothing.
They just do nothing.
They have power and they do nothing.
They do nothing.
Well, they're doing mass deportations right now.
I think that's the president's...
No, no, no, Donald Trump is...
That's executive branch.
Well, they had to pass the one big beautiful bill
in the House, which passed most of the president's agenda
because they had such a small majority, as I understand.
I will give them that.
And it was Thomas Massey, again,
who did vote in posture against this.
And then it was also, like,
Marjorie Taylor Green, who you were complimenting earlier, who forced the vote on the Jeffrey Epstein stuff, which sunk a lot of Republicans.
It wasted time in the Congress.
Trump screwed up the Epstein stuff, and there's no way around this. That's just end of story.
There are, let me ask you this. What do you think about the Epstein stuff?
What do I think? It should be 100% exposed.
And how do you think Trump handled it?
Very weird.
When he said, we're talking about this again, that whole thing when you ran on.
and listen, I love Trump, but to run on that and it's the most horrific crime that can be committed
and then to sit there and say, I'm going to put out all the names and then just go that one day where he goes,
are we still talking about this?
Like, what?
That was a bizarre land.
So, no, it needs to be exposed.
And clearly, there's something being covered up.
I think this is a trick to waste time.
I don't think anything's going to come of the new Jeff.
Agreed. Trump could have
responded. Like, here's the point I made in the beginning.
As soon as, you know, Dan and Dan Banjino and Cash Patel do these interviews and everyone's
like, that's weird. Dan Bonjino could have literally come out and just said,
trust us, guys, we're working on it.
It's going to be rough because we're investigating and it may take time.
Thank you and have a nice day. And people are like, oh, wow, Dan's on the case.
And that's that Trump coming out being like, it's a hoax, Democrat hoax, ignore it.
That's weird and unnecessary.
Yes, bizarre.
Trump did. Weird that it's a hoax.
So I think it was.
Where are we at with?
The distraction was a hoax.
Okay, that's what a hoax was because, again, between all of us, we know that people who are
crazy about the Jeffrey Epstein files will never be satisfied with no matter what comes out.
And Democrats were using this as an excuse to bog down the President Trump administration
from accomplishing anything else.
So while they were trying to, the president was trying to do anything, deport illegal immigrants
prevent new wars from breaking out.
You have Thomas Massey trying to force the vote on something that won't change the hearts
and minds of anybody.
Listen, Trump could have handled it better.
That's the point.
Fact.
Is it still being handled?
Yes.
So are we having it come out?
A judge just ordered the release
starting with the Gieland Maxwell Grand Jury
testimony. And it's funny because the judge was
like, this is ridiculous. We shouldn't do this.
I'm going to do it anyway. And as I understand though,
Pam Bondi could censor anything that she
deems secret to national
security or if they were victims that
they're going to block out. But again, the people
who want to see more Jeffrey Epstein files
again, won't be satisfied with this.
We're not getting anything substantive,
which is why it's stupid because Trump could have literally
been like, yeah, we're going to get it out. We're working on it right now. Thank you. And then Pam could
have just censored whatever they didn't like. Trump handled it miserably. Sure. I think the evidence has
already been destroyed. I don't think we're going to get the truth on this stuff. And I think whether
you believe Trump was in on it or not, I don't think Trump is implicated by it. I think he just did not
handle it properly. And it created confusion and disarray, which resulted in an opportunity for
Democrats to attack. Listen, I don't care all that much about it. We don't need to debate the
Epstein stuff. It's coming out. It's done. The point is Trump has some mistakes, but as it
as a president, he's doing fairly well, as we point out with this polling.
The Republicans in Congress are doing very little.
I think I agree with you.
I think in particular the president messed up on this, but Pam Bondi really dropped the ball
when she invited all those influencers in and made them look like idiots when they had these
binders of allegedly new information regarding Jeffrey Epstein, but didn't.
Tim, I did want to ask you, though, following her announcement that she's not going to be running
for reelection, Marjorie Taylor Green's, Marjorie Taylor Green's been making her rounds around
the media circuit. I don't know if you've seen
on CNN, 60 minutes,
bashing the president, essentially. She also went
on a couple of podcasts saying, like, explaining how
we're going a little bit too far and it's a little bit too cruel
how ICE is going around.
Trump's going to be. It's so
funny. What does that term mean?
So, well, I'll... You guys speak
sometimes. It means you're not limperisted.
If you're a neocon, you're not limperisted.
That's really what it comes down to. What is it?
You're not limperistic. You have a spine.
If you're a neocon, you're just not a huge
pussy. That's really what it comes down to.
Neo-conservative is a political term that usually reference the elements of the Republican Party and conservatives in this country who believe in foreign intervention war, the petro dollar establishing U.S. military might around the globe.
And peace through strength.
In short, neocons believe in so-called peace through strength that we could use our military and our huge military to help instill peace across the country and planet.
Sometimes that leads to war in conflict.
But that's the ideology of the neocon.
Peace through strength.
Yeah, but we should use.
Is that bad?
Well, Tim thinks so.
Wait, so let me ask you this.
So, Rino is a Republican in name-only, meaning that they are, but they don't subscribe to all the Republicans.
Rino is just because you're pissed at a-you-a-you-pits to somebody and you want to slander them as a Republican.
So, for example, I'll say, you know, Thomas Massey's are a rhino because he never votes with Republicans.
They're not on the most substantive votes.
Bro, that's like my Charles Bronson's view.
I don't know who Thomas Massey is.
I got you back.
I got a question.
Should we have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?
This year.
No, no, no, no, no.
Originally.
back in 2000
should we have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan
All right dude
This is a question
Hard on
Hard question
So let me ask you this
I don't
You know I don't want any wars
Yeah
You know what I'm saying
Obviously
Not a neocon
We live in a crazy world
But
If it was for oil
And for us to take the oil
And raid the country
Then no
But if it was like
To protect innocent people
And protect them from a dictator
then yes.
You know, I think it was...
Then I would say you are
in neocon territory.
I don't...
Is that a good thing?
No.
According to Tim.
Yeah, I'd say no,
because I think the idea
that you, do you want to invade China next?
No.
I don't want to invade anybody.
But the argument is,
the argument was...
Why invade Iraq?
I have no idea.
Was it for oil or was it for
weapons of mass destruction
and then wasn't there the whole
there were no WMDs?
Well, what's the truth?
For oil,
I would say for oil is a simplification.
It's control of oil supply as a byproduct of U.S. domination in the Middle East.
So we...
English!
They wanted the Suez Canal.
They want to control the Suez Canal.
That's all it is, really.
And actors need even...
So, let's go simple.
Because I'm telling you, this will help, dude.
Even though I know you got a real smart crowd.
You're saying that we invaded it, just invaded it.
Invaded it for oil, correct?
To steal their oil?
Is that what you're saying?
So no.
Okay.
However, that would be wrong.
Do we all agree with that? That would be wrong.
We're taking their oil. It's not our oil.
Is you good at that?
That's such a hard question.
Here's the issue. If they're evil?
No, if they're evil, obviously there's...
We want a Democratic ally.
The question is simply like this.
Here's your answer.
What is pie? Ian, what's pie?
Yeah, what's pie?
3.1415.
Great.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Exactly.
The number.
How many digits of pie can you give me?
7.
What are they?
5. 3.31415.
that's all.
Nine.
Two.
I don't know.
How many digits of pie do you know?
Two.
3.144.
I think it keeps going.
3.14.
Infinite.
It's infinite.
Oh, 3.14159.
And I think two is next.
But that's about as far as I know of pie.
And I'm not saying this to be like, ha ha, I got you.
You don't know what pie is.
My point is...
I don't.
If Ian started sitting here reciting pie to the 100th digit, you'd be like, I don't know
if that's true or not.
If I tried to explain to you the history of the region and the U.S.
military operation, you'd be like, I don't get it.
So the easiest way to describe as oil.
So what I'm trying to tell you is you said should we invade,
I'm not an expert on geopolitics or anything like that.
So you said should we invade it?
If there were a threat to us, then yeah, probably we should,
yeah, we should protect ourselves.
Now here's a question.
We're going to just steal their resources.
What do you mean by threat?
If they're going to nuke us.
They're going to make a dirty bomb.
If they're going to drive something into the fucking LBC,
you know what that is?
Long Beach.
So here's the issue.
Or the two nipples in San Diego.
The real issue,
is that's really simple.
The real issue.
Dirty bomb.
I fuck with Hollywood.
Dirty bomb, Debbie.
The real issue is that Saddam Hussein wanted to trade oil outside of the U.S.
dollar.
The U.S. controls what's called the Petro Dollar.
Yes.
If you want to buy oil, you got to use U.S. dollars.
Yes.
So the U.S. said, kill him.
We invaded Afghanistan for nebulous reasons, largely, I'd imagine,
to put military bases surrounding Iran for a pincers strike.
Because John Bolton wanted to invade Iran.
Because Iran also doesn't want to be on the petro dollar.
Should we bomb drug boats coming from Venezuela?
That's a different story in the air.
The answer is, in this circumstance, with what is currently going on, I would say yes.
Many people would believe that that makes you a neocan.
Oh, shut up, come on.
No, no.
I'm sure.
Go ask your libertarian friends.
All of them would call you a neocon as a result of that.
That is not the same thing.
I agree with you, but writ large, any military action done abroad makes you a neocon.
It's not a broad.
Neocon is what?
Neocon conservative.
Okay.
But it's meant to represent a hawkish age.
Neo-Nazi, all that stuff.
Okay.
So let's go slow.
You said three things there. Let's go back to what you just said. You said something about Iran.
Right. Forget what you said. I wanted to comment on it. Iran won't fall in line with a swift payment system in the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund.
So you're saying every dollar that we have is backed by oil, petro dollar. Now that is true. Yes. In the world? Yes. So but not gold. That's all BS.
Right. So the idea is this. And now Saddam wanted to go off of that and back it with what? Potentially euro.
Euro dollars?
Euro, European currency.
But what are they backed by? That's just paper too.
Indeed, it would make them backed by oil.
The idea right now is, if you are in a country, then you want to buy oil, you need to buy dollars first.
We are the, and this is dying, especially with Saudi Arabia getting off the petro dollar
a lease, which ended, it was a 50-year lease and it ended recently.
So now the issue is, we don't produce anything here.
We sent off our manufacturing to China to Canada.
Canada, to Mexico, to Indonesia. But we have the military. And the military controls the petro dollar.
So we keep telling these other countries, if you want to buy oil, you buy dollars from us,
we set the price. However, now what's been happening is that Russia, China, Saudi Arabia,
other countries are trading in yuan or rubles. This is putting the petro dollar at risk.
So if you go back in time 20 years, you have, you have Saddam Hussein. He says, we're considering
trading oil in other currencies. It was euros. Yeah, it was euro. He called the dollar, the currency
of the enemy. Indeed. So then we said, oh, geez, better go kill him. Then we have Muammar Gaddafi.
What did he want to do? Gold than ours. And he wanted to create the African Union.
So what did Hillary Clinton say? We came, we saw he died. So people say that Gaddafi wasn't
as bad as they say, correct? Well, I don't know enough about life in Libya. What I can say
is after he died, warring militias took over and are massacring each other and the slave trade
is back. So I think two things could be true at once. I know less about Gaddafi than I do about
Saddam Hussein, but Saddam Hussein
genocide incurs and other ethnic minorities in the
country. He used chemical weapons against them.
He also, I believe, had an assassinate,
or had plans to assassinate George Bush
Sr. Then there was obviously
Gulf War I where he was
trying to invade Kuwait. So he was a
destabilizing actor in the region and we wanted
a Democratic ally where, ally, where we could
export their oil and benefit from having
our company there. Let's just go simple here. Don't go to that story
yet. Jesus. You're going to such a different story
than this. Let's go. First
of all, are you military, bro? Are you military?
military? Oh, he's former military.
Fairly, but yeah. Thank you for your service.
Okay. So do you agree that Saddam Hussein
for everything that you know
was an evil, evil fucking person?
I don't know that. Okay. Well, let me explain something to you.
In 2007, thank you for your service, brother.
I went over to Baghdad and Kuwait.
And I went to one of his palaces.
So here's just one simple thing. Do you know that Saddam Hussein
every night, let's just say he had 45 palaces,
every night they had have a full course meal set because he might show up wow and you never know
if he's going to show up and do you know that I went to one of his palaces and there was something
called the elevator the golden elevator which was it was the doors are golden and the crimes
that were committed in this elevator and what I was told and what I saw from the handprints were
enough to make it it's sick I hear you so what I'm saying is from our military from a general who
literally look like, you know, Robert from Apocalypse now, like these lifer guys told me that
it was, they fucking took out a horrific person. Where do we draw the line? I think what we're here
right now and I have to get really passionate about this is what we've lacked in this world is empathy,
human connection feeling. That's why Charlie Kirk fucked me up so much is because when you see
blood squirting out of a person's fucking neck and you're a person that has blood in your neck,
you should be like, that's fucking crazy.
That could be anybody.
And so that's the human thing of empathy.
So which countries should we invade?
Again, I'm not a geopolitical person, but any, we shouldn't, we shouldn't invade anyone.
We should be in our own shit and our own shit.
But if people are trying to fuck with us, it came from like Rome.
If people are trying to fuck, but how?
Well, China's here.
Dude, if I were to take you in Beverly Hills right now, guess what?
Some of the richest people are Chinese.
Indeed, they're buying up our farmland.
They're buying sorters over our, in our airspace.
Well, I don't know.
It's a military practice.
Flying planes around ours.
We've got IP, intellectual property being stolen by China every day, and they're replicating, stealing our labor.
There's the thousand talents program where they're paying off.
our academics to steal information from our country that we developed and then reproduce it for pennies on the dollar.
They are absolutely aggressing upon us.
And more importantly, they are raping the Uyghur Muslims and then force them to get abortions.
That's going on right now.
The point is there are many evil dictators.
There are many evil countries.
Which ones do we decide to invade?
Okay.
That's a point, a very valid point.
and my question is
I don't like it that the USA
plays cop to the world
but I
don't know I don't have that answer dude
because you're right there's probably
we would be our military would never
get arrest if we went every country on the planet
100%
100% and anyone who says shit about the
USA and about all this
tough and tough tough you know what
go to the Congo
just go there
go to a
Thank you.
Yeah.
Go to the eastern block of Europe.
Like, these are people that haven't left, and they don't understand how good it is in America.
So I understand what you're saying.
Yeah.
But I'm going to tell you that I don't know, but you're right.
We would be the busiest military in the world.
We got a country to invade.
We got this story from the New York Post.
It's time for the U.S. to invade Indonesia because they arrested Bonnie Blue.
Actually, she's British, so the UK would have to do it, but they're a little preoccupied at the moment.
Porn star Bonnie Blue.
face up to 15 years in jail after being detained over bang bus stunt in Bali.
Apparently, she was soliciting like 18 year olds to do porn.
Grief.
So she's facing 15 years in prison.
And, yo, if prosecuted and found guilty, 15 years and a fine of $541,000.
Now, what they're saying is they might just deport her.
They might say, look, get her out of the country, get these guys out of the country.
We don't want it here.
However, there is a concern that because she is such a disgustingly high profile,
like disgusting and high profile person, she's famous for banging 1,057 guys in 12 hours.
Indonesia may be offended and they won't.
You know, it's one thing if some random person shows up to try to do porn is they say,
get out of here, you can't be here.
So another thing when Bonnie Blue comes here and says, I will defile a nation.
And so one of the theories from legal experts is they may want to make an example out of her,
which means if they don't deport her,
they may keep her in prison for just a couple of months.
So it may be in February and to February they finally let her go.
However, some do predict they'll want to make an example out of her
and actually prosecute and send her to prison for up to 15 years.
So she going bye-bye.
Imagine being the Secretary of State of some country
and like you have a ton of important political issues
and sensitivities that you have to deal with.
And then like this comes across your desk.
It's like, oh yeah, there's some whore in Indonesia that was trying to bang,
I don't know, 20 dudes for some video.
and like, I don't know, how are you going to get her out?
How are you going to negotiate with the other side?
You have to, like, call up your Indonesian counterpart and be like, oh, yeah, gee whiz,
like, I'm reading the news about this Bonnie Blue Girl.
And he's just like, yeah, she's defiling our country and making us look like,
doing an Indian accent.
It's just a funny situation, I imagine.
What is your take on this?
Because I have my, my...
I think it's a Muslim majority country or an Islamic country, and I think they take that shit seriously.
Didn't you go to school there for a day or two, Serge?
Am I doxing you?
Singapore, Indonesia.
It's all in that island-y, southeast Asia.
It's a bad idea to do this kind of stuff.
Like going to countries where you know they don't take this,
take kindly to this kind of stuff,
and then doing it so that way you can make content,
you know, like intentionally doing this in a place where it's risque
so that way you can get hopefully.
It's a great publicity start.
It's a terrible idea.
Bro.
She would be executed in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia, and North Korea.
A list of countries to liberate, I guess.
No.
again
liberate
why because they want to allow
Bonnie Boone a thousand guys
yeah you legally if you don't allow that
then I guess we will liberate you
and liberate your women I guess
again it goes back
you have the right to be a whore
women in our country have the right to be
as big of whores as they want to be
free speech I guess
let me pose a bigger question
here so first of all
it shows you how free you are
in America that you can do this
I'm actually turned off right now
I heard 100% and that's coming from me and I think our culture has gotten so sexualized that it's bizarrely turning me off and I think that once you bang 15 guys in a day I think you would be done but to do a thousand and 12 hours so it's sad what this woman does honest to God like there's a there's something beyond gone and I don't I don't think it's a joke I think it's it's fun
fucking sad. And there's a theory out scientifically that you have that much penis and fluid exchange
that it ruins you as a woman. And there's also, if you want to go into the demon shit,
called succubus. How does it ruin her? Like, I believe it does too, but...
Okay, do you believe, do you understand that energy? Do you believe an energy is real? Well, yes or no?
Yes. You understand what the water... What do you mean by energy? The water experiment? Do you know what
that is the other. Yeah, I don't believe that's real.
You don't believe it at all. You don't believe it at all.
You don't believe it at all.
What's the water experiment? Slow down. Are you referring to
the molecules changing shape based on the emotion?
Yeah, I don't believe that. You don't believe it at all.
It's by Emoto, Japanese scientists.
So you just got mad about
somebody not believing what happened to you, but
now you don't believe this that was proven by
scientist. It wasn't proven by scientists.
100%. That's not correct. That's not correct.
It actually is. What they found is that
different water had different shapes.
There's no correlation between the emotion. They couldn't
replicate hate created the same molecule. Have you ever heard of something called cell jumping?
What's that? It's when you're around somebody so much that you kind of take on certain
their traits because there's cells and your cells. Well, that's the saying that's why
the saying is you are the summation of the five people who surround you. 100%. It's not biological.
It's behavioral. I used to believe that. And I know I sound like I'm from Oregon right now.
And I'm making a dream catcher. But dude, this changed me. And there's some truth to this
shit. And it has to be proven because someone like you who has a big voice has to see it.
And I'm not going to convince you right now, but I believe it's more real than just arty farty shit.
If they can take water, charge it with emotion and it will, the molecules, let me finish,
take a certain shape. Then they can replicate that in another bit of water more than once,
doing a couple times to prove that it can be repeated. I'll believe it. They never did that.
I think they have, but number two is, do you understand that, okay, do you believe that words have power?
What does that mean?
I used to not think this.
Words have power.
If you say words, you'll have power with the word.
The word becomes powerful.
Speech and rhetoric can have worldly impact.
100%.
So, for instance, if you were to go to bed every night, there's a way of psychology.
Let me try to explain this simply.
The first thing you have to do is say what you want.
So tomorrow, if you say, I want to jog a mile, I want to jog a mile, I want to jog a mile,
it's either 30 or three times you say this before you go to sleep, that it starts embedding itself
onto yourself in your system, your neurological system, I want to jog a mile.
Then you write it down.
I want to jog a mile.
I want to jog a mile.
I want to jog a mile.
You do this.
It's subconsciously training yourself.
So boom, the next day there's a very good chance that you will try to jog a mile.
Simple.
That is scientific.
Positive affirmations.
Yes.
And it sounds crazy.
I want to put it like this.
But what I'm saying is, go ahead.
What are you your question?
There has to do with this.
I can understand that maybe some people need to do that.
I know if they're going to run a mile.
Me, I literally just decide if I want to run a mile.
I'll go do it.
I don't need to affirm it to myself or anything like that.
Is it psychological or physical?
It's what I used to think it was fucking, I used to think this was hippie shit.
Like psychological, which is fine.
No, I thought it was like energy, which sounds hippy, and psychological, which has an effect on us.
And now it's becoming real.
Do you believe in the power of numbers?
That I do believe in, but I don't know enough about it.
I want to pivot back to this story real quick and like a tangential thing.
No, just because we had a numerologist yesterday.
Is it yesterday?
Do you believe that?
Numerology?
No, I don't.
The jury.
I intentionally read the wrong.
reading for a lot and he believed it and then I
and I was flattered. A thousand guys. Let's say you a thousand guys. You have sex with
a thousand guys and a thousand different types of semen gets in you. You don't think
that's going to think I don't think it's numerology as to why that's gross and bad though.
But you don't think it's going to ruin you? You don't think it could fan energy.
I don't know. I wouldn't call it energy. I'd call it sperm and STDs potentially. But here's the
thing about porn. That is what? Porn and social media has evolved so much
in the past 30 years that and its impact on society and
men and particularly young men, I feel like we really need to understand. So when I was a child,
I think most of the viewers here are probably older than I'd probably understand more deeply than I do.
But when I was a child, in order to see a picture of a naked woman, I remember like the only place
that it really existed was like in a gas station. The internet didn't work well enough. I didn't,
I wouldn't understand how to get on the websites. I didn't have access to a computer like that.
To get any sort of content like that, I'd have to like run in a gas station, being in an area that
I wasn't supposed to, like peek through like a hidden section and like grab a dirty magazine. I'd
have to open it up because it wouldn't be on the cover and like look at a playboy magazine.
But the barrier to entry to watch hardcore porn of dozens of people banging this
prostitute or horror or whatnot, it's just, it's too easy.
And then the downstream consequences of that are extremely bad.
And we have yet to fully comprehend.
This comes with like the ubiquity of the internet and social media just being so apparent.
And it's not even like just the hardcore stuff.
It's just like so many of my buddies are just scrolling their Instagram feeds and it's fat asses
and big chests.
And it's just like, guys, it's the middle of the fucking day.
like, what are we even doing here?
Like, you're going from political content, news, to just, like, softcore porn, and it's,
it's just become so normalized and disgusting.
Like, I wouldn't have been able to get that stuff in magazines.
Now you get that stuff just scrolling, and it seems as though the most lucrative thing
that most young women could do is get into porn, and I don't know where that leaves us,
but the societal consequences of this have yet to be seen, and they're going to be really bad.
Should she be in jail?
For what?
For this?
Yes.
For having sex with men on camera?
I guess it was because she was attempting to.
They arrested her and charged her.
She didn't even have sex.
I think she might have.
I think it was producing pornography.
It might be legal in Indonesia.
Only fans model.
Just call her a hooker, dude.
Here's a question for you.
Should it be legal to bang 1,000 guys in 12 hours in the United States?
Should the government have a bullet to your head, a gun to your head?
He asked a question.
Start answering this.
You guys start with you and go around.
He asked that.
Answer the question.
Should the government...
No, answer his question.
The answer is no.
No.
Okay.
Yes.
Yes or no?
The answer is yes.
What was the question?
Should it be illegal to bang 1,000 guys in 12 hours?
Is it the 1,000th dick, or is it the 500?
Illegal?
No, not be illegal.
I don't think it should be illegal.
It's condemnable and moral disgusting.
I think you're morally fucking illegally.
I think you shouldn't.
You shouldn't do that.
You should not do that.
I think there are lines and limits to everything.
And the question is, what do we tolerate what don't we?
And while I certainly think there's an argument for why prostitution should be legal,
two consenting adults want to engage in an activity, and then they want to exchange money,
it's stupid that you could be like, just don't pay me.
Otherwise, I go to jail, but let's do it anyway.
Oh, I'll buy you dinner later or something.
It's like, get out of you.
What's the most women?
However.
Amen.
Right.
So all of these things are always defined by.
legislation that we, the people
will determine to be reasonable. What I mean is
law on the books isn't always enforced.
Like in West Virginia, it's illegal to cohabitate
but nobody gets arrested for it. Cohabitate
meaning I have a girlfriend? A man and woman cannot
live together in West Virginia, it's illegal.
Unless you're married? Yes.
No, you're not. That's not true. It's absolutely
is true. You can't live
in a house and can you just say you're not
hooking up? It is illegal
in West Virginia to cohabitate.
Meaning you can't have a female
roommate? Yes. Dude.
Every stereotype of West Virginia just got reinforced.
Oh, my God.
Are you kidding me?
You could live with your cousin.
Come on, that's embarrassing.
I got to stop you there.
You protect us elitist?
Oh, whoa, whoa, come on, come on.
I'm an elitist.
I got to stop you there because it's actually the opposite stereotype.
What's the stereotype here?
The stereotype is that they're not having sex.
I'm confused.
Listen, the bottom line is this.
That's crazy that you can't just have a woman as you're room.
This says it's not explicitly legal under state law,
but is subject to specific criminal provisions.
West Virginia Code 61-8-4.
The issue is they no longer enforce these laws.
They've been on the books forever.
So it's old school, like...
It's on the books. It's in the law, but no cop is going to arrest anyone.
Oh, okay, so you're fine.
There are two states that still have laws explicitly Michigan and Mississippi.
But they'll say it's criminal to do lewd and lascivious cohabitation, so maybe you're not
married to a girl in West Virginia and you make porn together.
Florida finally repealed it in 2016.
and Virginia in 2013.
In 2001, seven states repealed it.
So it actually was on the books for quite a long time.
The point is, there are lots of things that we have
as illegal we don't enforce.
My point is, it's fine to be like,
look, I get it, people can bang who they want to bang.
We're not going to get involved in that.
But a thousand people is where you get into lewd
in lascivious and obscenity areas where we're like,
if we don't say we're not going to,
she's going on social media apps, promoting it,
encouraging it, gloating over it,
and getting paid for it.
I say, there's a lot of it.
line, we should not allow this.
Dude, on this line, I agree with you.
And to your point is, bro,
low-key, I get some of those boobs and butts,
and I swear I was just looking at cats.
Dude, right? They're pushing it up.
No, they, honestly, dude, I look at food recipes,
bro, and I'm getting crazy amount of shit that I didn't ask for.
I reset my algorithm and still happens.
So there is a sexualizing, like I'm saying my buddies,
we're all like, yo, it's a turnoff.
So, yeah, it's hard.
hard, Tim, because it's such a...
I agree with you. This should never happen.
But you're right. If it affects
society at some point... I mean, sorry, we
withdraw the line at a thousand.
We're such bastards.
Just don't go 1,000 and 1.
That's all we're asking. I wanted to follow up with you
because I know you have an affinity for libertarians
and one of their catchphrases is like, it doesn't
matter what... You have an affinity for a libertarian.
I literally said I don't like the illiteran party because they're whacking.
No, but for libertarianism, when you were younger, you had an...
No. You don't have any affinity for libertarians. I never did.
I thought you did.
I said, I liked libertarians.
I liked Ron Paul because he said, we meant, we made a degree on policy, but I'll never force you do something.
I said, I can accept that.
Well, the libertarians were a bit wacky and all over the place.
I know they have a saying of like consenting adults behind closed doors should be able to.
Yeah, they're nasty.
Okay.
There's a there's that.
Just to add to that, I'll shut up, is that the freedom of the people thinking you're taking their rights away, a lot of these people that are worried about their rights being taken away, want to do deviant shit.
The deviance is what they want their rights.
The Libertarian Party is a hodgepodge collection of various degenerates who want to do something illegal that they can't.
And they're unified under, let me do my illegal thing and I'll let you do yours.
That's the libertarian party is.
Then you have this one chunk.
Isn't that Democrats too?
The Democrats are actually, I'll say whatever, to get power.
It includes degenerate shit.
Okay.
But the libertarians have this one, like here's the big circle of libertarianism.
And there's this tiny chunk called the Mises Caucus, where they're like guys, which don't want war.
and we want to lower taxes.
And everyone else is like,
can we look at animals doing dirty things?
And they're like, no, stop.
You're ruining this for us.
And then they nominate some gay communist.
There is a distinction between libertarianism and libertinism.
And the libertinism is what has infected the libertarian party.
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We got to read your Rumble Rans and chats.
Let's start with Cheeseburger who says Bonnie Blue literally Fafoed.
Big time.
She Fafoed, dude.
Fafoed right into Bali.
Corporal Fet says Candace has effectively destroyed the rights coalition.
Is there any way to fix our coalition?
Is there any way forward?
She's unhinged and quite possibly the greediest woman in politics today.
Yeah, you can fix it.
Dude, if a big magnet gets shattered, you just build a bigger magnet
and all the pieces get sucked back right to it.
Here's what I see.
For a long time,
a lot of people refused to either pay attention or engage
with what she was doing.
She increasingly made it crazier and worse.
And because so many people were unwilling to say anything,
it became this gigantic mound of chicken crap.
However, as more and more people start coming out,
the people who follow her are starting to realize,
well, everyone is calling her crazy.
Maybe she is.
See, the thing is when she's saying crazy things,
but everybody's being like, oh yeah, maybe, I don't know.
Then people who follow her like, wow, she's the only one who's talking about it.
There needs to be pushback on these lunatics if the right doesn't, what's the right word for this?
The left did not police the woke and allowed them to run amok and go crazy and destroy the Democratic Party.
If the right does not do the same thing for its own side and say, we do not engage the crack pottery,
then you will create the sect of Candace conspirators and people will be like,
I don't F with the Republicans, man.
Those are weird people.
The word you're looking for is gatekeep.
But we don't like to say because it doesn't sound kosher.
If you don't gatekeep the idiots and retards and conspiracy theories out of the party, it dilutes.
No, you keep your friends in check.
If you really care about Candace and when she's doing, tell her, talk to her, but you got to keep people in check.
Go give her a phone call.
That's the other thing.
You know what it is?
I don't have a number.
She's too sharp for, I imagine if one of our friends actually went to her and said,
you know, here's how I imagine, they'd be like, Candice, I think you're going a little.
far. How am I going too far? What did I do wrong? It's ridiculous. And they'd go, yeah, you're
right, Candace. How do you get to this point where you are so assured of the insanity? It's because
you're too aggressive and people are scared to say anything. And that's why most conservative
commentators would not say anything. I mean, lo, yo, she literally made a thumbnail that said
who benefited from Charlie Kirk's death and used a picture of me. Like this is what, and so now
the message is clear. If you criticize her, she's going to make you the villain of her drama. Well,
I don't care. I don't care. Let's read more of these.
All right, J.R.R. Rod says Jamie Kennedy, Malibu Most Wanted. Love that movie.
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Ronnie Blue. Yes, she did.
I haven't seen the movie.
Asriel says, I have had a effing enough of this BS. Candice needs to stop.
She at this point is a jealous child. All I see coming out of her mouth is where, where, where my,
hurts. Grow up little girl.
Yikes.
Roflo says the season finale of Candace's show
will be her bringing on a
channeler of the dead like Cody ITC
to ask him from beyond the grave.
Dude. She's a new MLK. She had a dream.
Didn't she say Charlie came to her in a dream?
Yep, exactly.
Dude, MLK had a crazy dream too.
Maybe we should be making fun of her for it.
Jay Dirtbiker says, make historical war movies great again.
I want to see an accurate movie about the Crusades.
That sounds fun.
I'm actually pretty excited about Penn Dragon Cycle.
It looks really good.
You know, they were like...
You saw the trailer for it?
I saw the trailer.
There's just so much, I feel like, negative energy
surrounding it moving forward.
Like all the behind-the-scenes stuff,
there's so much pressure for it to succeed
and replace some...
I feel like they're going for a Game of Thrones type show,
at least in some of the graphics that I saw.
And, I mean, I'm wishing them the best
and Daily Wire is trying their hand at culture.
But if this doesn't be expectations, I mean, shit.
Jeremy was the...
was the power behind it, and he's gone now.
But I looked at the Daily Wire YouTube channel,
and the biggest videos they put out
are always the behind the scenes of Penn Dragon,
and the trailer comes out against millions of views.
I think Jeremy was correct about the direction they needed to go.
Now, Daily Wire just seems to be, with all due respect,
because I like these guys, but it's a lot of,
it's four guys saying similar things to each other.
There's a limit to this space, you know?
They needed to go in a creative direction.
and I guess, you know, it looks like what happened.
I don't know for sure that there was an internal feud with Jeremy over the direction of the company.
Jeremy wanted to do creative content and make the company bigger than just political commentary.
And then I guess as political commentary starts to wane and that's their real money base, they ousted him.
Or he quit.
I don't know exactly what happened.
And then they're like, now we're going to do political commentary.
And now that's kind of all it is.
But I'm excited for Penn Dragon and it may end up being massive.
So it's a video game they're making?
The Pendragon cycle is a series of novels about like King Arthur and Merlin
and stuff like that.
Arthur Pendragon is his last thing.
Yeah.
I'm okay.
Uther Pendragon is fun.
And so they made a movie about it or TV series.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, The Daily Wire started working on this years ago.
And it looks good.
Oh, it looks sick.
It looks pretty dang good, yeah.
It like Game of Thrones-esque.
And it'll only be available on their thing.
Yep.
Okay.
Presumably.
That's a difficult barrier to entry.
I'm going to watch it for sure.
You've got to put clips on YouTube and stuff.
Yeah, but outside.
Yeah, but outside of the people, the conservatives who were already signed up to Daily Wire,
it's like, why would you dip your toe in?
Like, I don't know why a liberal would want to support Daily Wire to watch this show,
because they hate Daily Wire, so why even give it a chance?
Put it on Amazon or something.
Yeah, if they flip it to a big streamer, yeah.
But then if one of these outlets buy it, then it's just like, oh, you're working with these fascists,
so they're stuck between a rock and hard play.
Let's read this.
We got Patriot Girl says, just wanted to say I thought Son of the Mask was a cute movie,
and I'm 30, if that means anything.
I really enjoyed it.
I loved Loki's character and his relationship with Thor.
Well, there you go.
there you go buddy
you know what that's the age group though
yeah that's fascinating because
I have these people I go to these conventions
all the time I was telling them and they're like these big
autograph conventions they're amazing and now
like the 23 to 30
tell me they love the movie now when it came out everyone
told me they hated the movie and I said why
and one girl said well my mom would just put
you know me in front of the TV and I'd watch
it on loop I think the issue was the original
mask well dude and I you know what I have
is that my loop was Scarface, Beverly Hills Cop,
and Nightmare on Om Street.
So, but it's a good loop, right?
So it's like, I think it's just people have different things.
I think it's because the original mask IP was a bit violent.
And the original, the movie they made was actually more intended for an older audience.
And some of the mask is more for like, it's a cookie cartoon for kids, you know?
Thousand percent.
There's a lot more, but yes.
Right.
So they start telling adults to watch a kid's movie and they're going to be like, well, I don't want to watch this, you know.
Yeah.
It could have worked in the sense.
of adult jokes
and then funny visuals
for kids. Like Disney does that the best.
All right. D-I-T-W
says the Stoge's theory might hold.
Candice could be laying groundwork for a McCrone
lawsuit defense. It's just an entertainment show
all fake and crazy. Everyone knows it's not serious.
I believe that will be her defense.
We saw similarly with Fox News
that it's not news, it's
opinion and entertainment. I imagine
that will be her only defense because
I got to be honest. My brother's
not a public figure. I mean, they
I try to argue he is, but claiming that he committed a shooting in which I claimed to have, quote, survived is psychotic.
It is beyond the pale.
It is insanely offensive and just made up.
And I don't know where she comes up with this nonsense.
The thing about Candace Owens is that I don't think between her and her husband, they give a crap about any of these defamation suits.
Her husband's worth well over $200 million.
They can weather any of these financial storms.
No, they can't.
You don't think so?
200 plus million?
I mean, I'm sure they have an LLC.
Alex Jones owes what they tried suing him for the GDP of France.
Million dollars.
No, at first it was a million.
Or 1.4 billion.
Yeah, something.
Crazy.
We'll see how this pans out.
I don't think she's scared of these defamation suits.
I think she has the money to, you know, she has a few money.
Yes, but accusing someone of trying to murder a family member,
a person who's not a public figure, doesn't fall under Times v. Sullivan.
She's not scared to go after Bridget McRone
I mean she's happy to make up stuff
If she's willing to make up stuff about Bridget McCrone
I mean you know
She's willing to make up anything about anybody
You your family
I mean it's people are posting photos of my brother
Like this is him
Like this is what she does
Like I called my brother and I was like dude
Like I can see this like yeah I'm tweeting
And I'm like well what the stop like
Are you are you trying to
Would you ever try to get together with her
Talk it out or is that done?
Well there's the question of
She's crazy.
You know what I mean?
Like she wants to do crazy things.
So I don't know that engaging with a lunatic when I'm trying to talk about serious issues
and she's claiming the U.S. military, the French Legion, Israel, men in maroon shirts,
are, you know, Erica's wife is involved.
Like when she's literally just vomiting all over the table, there's no discussion.
It's like, someone asked me like, hey, that dog's taking a dump.
Do you want to debate him?
I'll be like, why.
He's just shitting with floor.
We had Milo on the show last week.
Yeah, but Milo is very different.
Milo's very different.
He's kind of similar.
V.E is, of course, very different.
Milo's very different.
But it was more about just a blast.
That show was just a wild explosion, you know?
It wasn't...
Milo deserves some critique and criticism as he does, as he does.
But I don't consider him the same as Candice.
And I don't think he's a dirty dog taking a shit, like you said, either.
I just think we didn't get a political discourse that night.
It was still really cool.
Let's grab some more.
We got Shane H. Wilder.
He says, Cam's verification did nothing to satiate these lunatics.
Now they're like, he edited it.
No, duh.
Cam is a stand-up dude and isn't going to docks the compound's location.
These people are tart at AF.
Yeah, right.
The first guy called literally the wrong police department.
And then they were like, that proves it.
It's intentional lies.
They want it to be a lie.
Dirk T. Sanchez says, I just bought a case of pool water.
One, because of your genuine reaction to Candace yesterday.
And two, to try and encourage you to keep doing IRL, we need you and your crew, Tim.
Please keep creating.
I love the idea, the preliminary ideas that we've been bouncing around with the Rumble
crew about making something bigger and bringing everyone together because having all these independent
islands just puts us all at risk. So if, you know, I was talking about how I was talking with them
and I think I mentioned on the show like Fox News as a skyscraper. So when you go into the studio,
ain't nobody getting in there. Nope. No bulletproof windows. You can't open the doors. And I was like,
we need something like that. But if everybody works out of the same office building and same studio,
you only got to hire one security crew for everybody instead of 15 security crews, which is very
expensive. So we'll see what goes. We'll see where it goes.
Have I pushed Fox News hard enough?
Are they in the cards?
No.
You give them a call.
You give them a call.
Somebody there would love, I'm sure, to speak to you, more than one.
Black Hills Ranch says, no, if God creates something so heavy, he can't lift it.
He limited himself.
By that logic, he can create something that can kill him.
Dumb, outdated paradox.
All wrong to him.
God is reason.
He is who he is.
This is why I'm not a Christian.
Because the concept of creation itself is a creation of God.
and the Christian view is that defies logic and logic must exist for there to be a God.
And God is, he is the logos of the universe.
My perception is, God is the infinite singularity of all things.
God is the decider of what is or is not.
The function of the universe was decided by God.
The concept of heavy was decided by God.
The concept of immovable was decided by God.
God could simply decide immovable no longer exists.
God could decide immovable exists.
God could decide to create paradox because paradox was created by God in the first place.
It is strange to me that people would say the reality in which we exist, that includes logical contradiction,
was, logical contradiction was not created by God because God is logic.
And I say, then I view that as a limitation that is not omnipotence.
My view is that logic itself was decided by God.
God literally decided one day, logic will be this.
Put it in a place.
And then we all went, no, if you defy that God can't.
can't do. It's like, no, no, no, you don't understand. God can move the one and the two whenever he wants.
Well, you're making me think about using vortexes to dampen un-rah radiation so that we can
dispel with, you know, the limitations on inertia. And just when you start to accelerate, you keep
accelerating. Here's a good one. Methos says, Tim, consider drones. They are never in the same
place and be equipped with thermals and are relatively cheap. We actually did look into getting
robot dogs for the property. We get like five robot dogs. They just walk around. And what happens
is you'll have like two on rotation where they walk the whole property and then sit down in the
charger and then three will come out and move around and then sit in the charger and then two comes
out and we can mount them with rifles or flame throwers. Now to be fair, probably paintball guns
but you know.
Dude, the robot dogs. That's the way to do it. Yeah. I mean dude. Yeah. You see the videos.
And then what happens is when someone comes in the property like 15 dogs walk up real slowly
and then one of them just tilts back and goes halt, intruder. You are.
on private property. We will open
fire in 15 seconds. Do
not approach. And then guns slide up.
And then the bolt slides back.
Maybe you could hire a couple of Ukrainians to just hang out
with their self-destructive drones, their suicide drones
and somebody, the wrong person breaches.
We went to Home Depot and we went, Trabo. Trabo.
And then they were like, see, see.
They have Mexicans here in West Virginia? And I was like,
you guys want to work? And they were like, yeah, we can't work.
What do you want to say? I just want you to stand in front of my property.
Oh, C.
I'm kidding. We never did.
that...
I'm ripping off
South Park, by the way.
Simulation theory,
do you believe in that or no?
What is that?
Simulation theory.
We live in a simulation.
Oh, simulation.
I thought you said,
assimilation.
Simulation theory.
Yeah, yeah, I know a simulation.
Do you believe in it?
No.
Wow.
I think it's impossible to tell.
You should talk about this
on the after show, too,
because you brought up energy.
Well, we gotta get into finer details on what that means.
So my view is that simulation theory is,
like,
if you studied any kind of theology,
simulation theory is...
I'll put it like this.
When you see like Elon Musk or some tech billionaire go, what if we live in a constructed universe where a more advanced civilization or power created the world we're in?
It's like, ah, that was the first page of the Bible.
So simulation theory is, it's like 2% of theology.
And priests and philosophers have contemplated these ideas for thousands of years.
But simulists seem to have just figured it out instead of actually just going to learn it.
religious falcon asking them.
Well, this is going to be too long, so I'll keep it simple.
But you know that there's multiple people saying that we live in a hologram.
And if you understand what that means, meaning that you know the split atom theory.
Which is...
And you know Shrodden is Shroden?
Shroding or Skat?
Yes.
So you understand the split atom theory.
What is that?
If they fire two atoms...
That's the double-slit experiment.
Yeah, double-slit.
So do you believe that?
So the interesting thing about the double-sit experiment,
if an ant was walking across the table
and you were trying to measure the distance the ant walked
so you slammed a ruler next to it
and then the ant turned left
and you went oh my god
the act of observing the ant has changed its direction
that's what it is no
it is no because you just did a ruler
so that affected the ant
indeed and what tool are they using to monitor electrons
you're observing it with your eyes
there's a tool that's interfering with wave
with wave function collapse.
And so the hippies
had someone tell them
with the double sit experiment
and they went, oh, whoa.
And then the scientists went, guys,
what we're actually saying is we don't
know the point at which wave function collapse happens.
But the scientists aren't
on your, they're not saying it's not real.
Well, the scientists are saying
is that there is an interference at some point
we don't know where it is.
They are not saying the act of observation
alters reality.
I think there's
some papers that said the act of observation
does. If it were mainstream,
dude, come on, fucking back me up on this.
I think so, you got your
your neurons in your brain, muscles,
stomach, they're all affecting the magnetic field
around you, which is affecting everything within that.
I could do this all night, which is why I'm
shut up. We got a couple more minutes to grab some of these chats.
We got Legama, he says,
I was very happy to see your 1,000% valid
comments about Candace. The woke moose
endure and are deeply entrenched.
in the U.S.
Candice's BS is a pebble in the engine of the war machine to root out the woke left,
making everything idiotic chaos, time to shut her clap trap.
Yeah, I think she's basically like, it's a tumor growing on the right that everybody was
scared to address because they felt like it would damage them personally.
But if you don't stop it, then the right will cease to exist.
And the Democrats will win.
And she literally said, we don't care about your midterms.
She knows she's burning down the coalition.
abolition, she does not care, nor does her audience. They live in Wally World. They don't care if
Democrats win. I do. All right. We got Ferris McLaren says, Occam's razor suggests,
Hanlon's razors best explains Candace's behavior. One dummy is taking down TPSA single-handedly,
and you all are conspiracy theorists for assuming she's evil. So you genuinely believe that you think
Candice isn't cognizant of all of the inconsistencies and everything she said. That you
She didn't decide today to say, wow, it was the military that did it.
She knows exactly what she's doing.
She's not stupid.
She's very smart.
People don't accidentally get to these positions of power.
When people are like, Donald Trump's a moron.
I'm like, no, he's not.
He's a billionaire that owned like 500 different companies and turned a million dollars into a billion dollars.
He's very smart.
It's stupid to look at someone who is doing something consistently consistently successful and go, yeah, but they're actually stupid.
I mean, there's wisdom.
Then there's intelligence.
She's obviously highly intelligent.
But is she wise?
know the implications of what she's doing? I don't know. Because if she really understood the damage
she could possibly be doing to humans, emotions, soul, like, maybe she wouldn't. I think she's a
narcissist and she doesn't give it. I love this one. Trusted source says, Tim has what we call
CDS, Candice derangement syndrome. Don't forget Chuck Schumer derangement syndrome. Nancy Pelosi
derangement syndrome. Elizabeth Warren derangement syndrome. Elizabeth Warren-Cosvenor
Dorenton Domington syndrome. That's like you've got derangement Dorembandine syndrome. Gavin Newsom
Dorengement syndrome. Antifa Darrangement Syndrome.
California derangement.
The list goes on
of everything I've criticized
and this one time
it's like Candace is not
and they're like
Hoh, tip you're like to act
weird.
Yeah, I don't care, dude.
Maga
Maga 25
says Candace is a Fed.
Maybe.
Her lawyers work in the same building as feds.
That was her own revelation.
True.
When they say this Fed thing
for everyone,
that means everyone
they're just on the payroll.
Yeah, Candice got the call.
So that's when they say when people are feds, because you hear this a lot. You're a Fed.
I'll just say it is very interesting that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. The biggest blow to the right coalition, but more importantly, specifically to Turning Point USA, their leader and founder and main fundraiser, gone. Someone killed Charlie Kirk to destroy Turning Point and stop his work. The second most devastating thing done to Turning Point and Charlie's work.
Candice Owens.
So we've got a list, right, of all the people that have done, you know, from a list of
one to ten, who did the most damage at Turning Point USA?
First, you have the assassin, presumably Tyler Robinson, and second, you have Candace Owens.
After that, I don't know, they're being sued by somebody, I imagine.
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hey man I just want to talk about energy
I'm talking about subatomic you know
the cymatic vibration of reality
causing things to appear in place at the subatomic
realm, which is probably part of what you're going at.
So maybe we'll tap on that in the after show.
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