Timcast IRL - CEO Assassin Suspect Manifesto LEAKS, SCREAMS Leftist Nonsense At Cops w/Colonel Kurtz

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Tim, Phil, & Ian are joined by Colonel Kurtz to discuss the manifesto of the suspected Healthcare CEO assassin being leaked, the suspected CEO assassin screaming leftist nonsense at police in a new vi...deo, Trump planning to end birthright citizenship on day one, and Democrats calling on Biden to blanket pardon all illegal immigrants. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Colonel Kurtz @colonelkurtz99  (X, YouTube) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The manifesto of the suspected CEO assassin Luigi Mangione has leaked. And boy, I got to say, he is not a smart fella. I don't know if this guy is the actual assassin. They believe he is because they found stuff on him. But let's be real. If some crackpot leftist three days after the assassination decided that they wanted to be a martyr because they had nothing going for them, they could have entertained that possibility and set this up to make it look like they were this guy.
Starting point is 00:00:28 But it looks like they're saying yes, there's probably more information. And I got to say, despite all the people on the internet saying, it's a psyop and it's not really him, this time it looks like it probably is, but we don't know. He's innocent until proven guilty. I can only say that his light two-page manifesto, it's 262 words, has been leaked by some independent journalists, by an independent journalist, Ken Klippenstein, I believe his name is.
Starting point is 00:00:48 And this dude is dumb. I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it. He outright says in the manifesto he can't articulate his argument. And it's just like you're advocating for murder and you don't even know why? You can't even express your idea? Yikes, these people are dangerously stupid. All right, well, we're going to talk about that. And and then we get a bunch of other stories surrounding this, of course.
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Starting point is 00:02:42 you stole the name just got back from my third tour in NAMM. Oh, yeah. So who are you? What do you do? So my name is Kristen. I have been on the show before, actually, or the Culture War. And I talked about my time in academia as a lecturer of English. So got my PhD in English, spent many years in the academy and started a YouTube channel and started out covering mostly me too. Scams like the Johnny Depp hoax and the Marilyn Manson, me too hoax and expanded in some other stuff. I talk about politics at times and of course, Phil.
Starting point is 00:03:17 All right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. Thank you for having me here. I thought you said, of course, Phil, who we also have on the show,
Starting point is 00:03:24 but he said, film, film. You said, I have a whole side channel where we have on the show. But you said film. Film, you said. I have a little side channel where we talk about Phil. Who doesn't talk about Phil Labonte? Ladies and gentlemen, Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, In the House. I'm going to intro Phil tonight. He's a great guy.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Super logical. Really open-minded. He's an anti-communist. Yeah. Counter-revolutionary. Fun to go on long car rides with. Phil Labonte, ladies and gentlemen. Phil Labonte.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Ian Crossland, everyone. He's here. He is thinking about graphene per the norm. I am Phil Labonte, just like Ian said, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary, lead singer of All That Remains. Let's get started. Here we go. We got the story from the Post Millennial. Manifesto of UnitedHealth murder suspect released. So normally, I got to tell you, I'm I actually don't like showing
Starting point is 00:04:12 the pictures, the names and the manifestos of these people who do these things, because that was what they're trying to do. This dude clearly was trying to get his name out there, get attention and push this cause. So during the police transfer earlier, he was screaming leftist garbled nonsense about his lived experience. I am not exaggerating. We'll talk about in a second. But considering the ubiquity of this guy's profile and what he represents, it's now it's not something you can ignore. In a lot of these circumstances, the media might say, like, hey, look, we don't want to give this person attention who's trying to get it. Everybody and their grandmother is want to give this person attention who's trying to get it.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Everybody and their grandmother is trying to give this guy attention. The left is cheering for him. So I think it would be prudent to actually look at what his motivations are so we can rip them to shreds. Because if we don't, the left is sharing the manifesto. They're talking about wanting to have adult relations with him and they're cheering for him. But the guy's a moron. Now, look, I completely disagree with, I don't know, like murdering a dad in cold blood in the middle of the street. I just think that's wrong. Forgive me. The left seems to be for it. But when you actually read the guy's manifesto, I was dumbfounded at how stupid he is.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And again, I'm sure I want to stress I'm not saying that of emotion. I am not saying that because I disagree with him. And I think he's a bad guy. I think he's a bad guy. And I think he's he's he's you know, I disagree with his political views. But holy crap, his manifesto articulates nothing. He correlates things that don't make sense and then literally says, I can't articulate this. Other people will have to. And it's like, so you're a crazy moron. I think it's important people know this so we can mock these leftists who would cheer for someone this dumb. The Postmortem says the alleged handwritten manifesto of the suspect in the assassination-style shooting of CEO Brian Thompson has been obtained and
Starting point is 00:05:54 published by Ken Klippenstein. Luigi Mangione was arrested in Altoona, PA on Monday and was found with a 3D-printed gun, ammunition, and fake IDs. Mangione, per Klippenstein, who also published the mugshot, said he wasn't working with anyone. The parasites had it coming. He references the American health care system comprised primarily of private insurance companies,
Starting point is 00:06:11 saying that it is the most expensive in the world, but that American life expectancy is 40 second globally. This appears to be his reasoning for targeting the CEO, Brian Thompson. UnitedHealthcare is the largest
Starting point is 00:06:21 private insurer in the US. He was denied bail. It goes on to basically read like of the whole manifesto. I don't want to read the whole thing out right just because, well, I mean, maybe we should read. It's so short. It's really short. Right. Right. And I want to stress this. Normally, I don't want to be like, look at what he said. But I actually think we should read it because the guy is so dangerously stupid. He should be mocked and anybody who supports him should be laughed at. So he says to the feds, I'll keep this short because I do respect what you do for our country to save you a lengthy investigation.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I say plainly I wasn't working with anyone. It was fairly trivial. Some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patients. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and to do lists. That's the ultimate gist of it. He says his tech is pretty much locked down, blah, blah, blah. He goes on to say the U.S. is the number one most expensive health care system in the world, yet we rank roughly 42nd in life expectancy. Now I want to pause there and just say that right there is where you're like, wow, he's really dumb. Those things don't correlate. OK, the issue with our life expectancy has a lot to do with everything RFK Jr. has been saying. When you go to a Chinese
Starting point is 00:07:25 food restaurant, this is one example, OK, and you say, I would like Chinese food. Actually, how many of you guys watch Tulsa King? You watch Tulsa King? So, you know, that scene where Ming, I think his name was. He's like, I came here as a young child. He's Chinese. And he goes, I work in a Chinese food restaurant. I don't recognize it. Yeah. Deep fried chicken balls soaked in sugar syrup. This is what people eat on a regular basis. So the problem he's seeing is that American has a sick culture with mass produced garbage food and chemicals. And then he blames our health care industry on it. Perhaps the reason the health care industry is so expensive because Americans are morbidly obese, sick, don't exercise and eat
Starting point is 00:08:01 garbage. So he really doesn't understand. And from that lack of understanding, because he's a really dumb guy, he killed somebody. Here's my favorite part. He says, but many have illuminated the corruption and greed, e.g. Rosenthal and Moore, decades ago, and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Let me read this sentence before. He says, obviously, the problem is more complex, but I do not have space. And frankly, I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. He's honest there, I guess. So this is just, it sounds like the story of a dude who left his parents' house. They say he's
Starting point is 00:08:35 Ivy League. He's valedictorian. I'm like, yeah, he's institutionalized. He spent all of his years in institutionalized learning facilities, got out, allegedly did a bunch of psychoactive drugs, and then said, you know what? I can't actually make the argument. I don't know, institutionalized learning facilities, got out, allegedly did a bunch of psychoactive drugs, and then said, you know what, I can't actually make the argument, I don't know, but someone has to do something, and then kills a random guy unrelated to whatever his problem is. I mean, there's a lot of talk about his back issues, so he got a back injury, he's alleged to have had a back injury. Reportedly had it his whole life. It's a disorder where his lower spine was misaligned, causing a slipped disc. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:08 That's what they're reporting. And then the back injury story was that he was at a surf retreat, and after wiping out, it exacerbated his existing condition, leaving him bedridden for a week. So the— What's the grievance, though? Exactly. The obvious logic, right, that that you would think the back injury leads to him being unable to enjoy life.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Can't I heard that he can't you know, he can't go out with girls. He can't perform sexually. It's too painful for him to try and have intercourse. So he blames the health insurance company for a chronic back injury. And also the guy comes from means he went to an extremely expensive school. Why is paying for, you know, care such a problem? That was it. He was an incel. He literally was. Because of his lower back issue, he couldn't, I guess, and this is what the reports are saying, and it's a bunch of, you know, hi, I know this guy, here's what happened. According to like Reddit posts and what they think in media, and these are rumors, maybe they're not true, according to roommates,
Starting point is 00:10:22 his hips and lower back, he had a difficult time moving them without nerve pain. Anybody who's ever pinched a nerve knows you ain't moving if you've got a pinched nerve. And so because of this, apparently some guy said that he had talked to him directly. They were at a surf retreat. And Mangione said he was unable to be intimate with women because of the spinal issue.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's the literal definition of incel. Involuntary celibate. Without any, like a lot of people sitting in their house eating too much pizza with zits and like, I can't get a woman. That's not really involuntary. That's you making choices that lead you to a place where they're not interested in you.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But this guy literally apparently could not perform. It seems like the underlying issue here is some great degree of mental illness, maybe exacerbated by, I know you mentioned psychedelics, but I just wonder, too, what all was he taking either officially or unofficially for this back pain? And it just seems like a muddled mind. So he had a book list of some sort. I forget what it's a. I think it's a good read.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Right. Good reads. Yeah. there was a bunch of books about psilocybin and other hallucinogens or psychoactive drugs or whatever, which doesn't, you know, that's not a good thing if you're depressed, which it's, you know, again, these are all, this is all alleged to be, but if he's depressed because he has chronic massive back pain that inhibits his, that has degraded his quality of life considerably, taking, you know, psilocybin or taking magic mushrooms probably isn't a great idea.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But even still, to me, I'm still missing what the actual motivation to kill a health insurance CEO is. He read threads on Reddit. I'm not being funny. He read half-brained, crackhead arguments on Reddit where he literally says,
Starting point is 00:12:13 we have the most expensive healthcare, but we are 40 second in life expectancy. And it's like, listen, listen. Healthcare and life expectancy are not the same thing. Getting a broken bone set isn't necessarily going to correlate directly to longevity.
Starting point is 00:12:27 But he's not smart enough to understand that. So he's reading stupid garbage on the internet. Okay, look, this is akin to saying, leftists do this all the time, did you know there are more empty homes than homeless people? Duh! And then the response in their minds is,
Starting point is 00:12:42 we could literally put a homeless person in an empty house. Problem solved. And it's just like, you know what happens if literally put a homeless person in an empty house. Problem solved. And it's just like, you know what happens if you put a homeless person in an empty house? Hey, Jordan Neely was given housing. Did you know that? After Jordan Neely got arrested the 50th time or whatever it was, after the arrest for punching the six, seven-year-old woman in the face, reportedly he got treatment and housing. And two weeks later, he skipped and left so you can't
Starting point is 00:13:08 just put them in houses but this is what they do they can't actually look at causation they can't look at nuance he just read something dumb on the internet and then decided to end someone's life and like if he was tripping we were kind of talking before the show about if psychedelics are good or bad just drugs in general and the whole conversation. Like you were saying, Phil, they're an enhancer. And from my experience, psychoactives enhance your mood. If your mood is terrible, they make it more terrible. And if it's good, they make it more good.
Starting point is 00:13:35 So if this guy is seriously depressed and taking psychedelics, I can see him making crazy unattached associations and just out of anger and like grabbing at stupid reasons. Yeah, it's like a disordered mind. It's like it reminds me of, you know, a beautiful mind or something and go in there and there's all this stuff on the wall. I don't know if we can read too much into this, but I do think, though, that the symbolism that it's taken on in our culture is interesting. And obviously it's completely messed up that people are lionizing him as a hero. But I do think it points to an underlying frustration that a lot of people have with our healthcare system
Starting point is 00:14:11 and how screwed up it is. Yeah, but this is something that I mentioned last night. The frustration with our healthcare system is actually a frustration with the government and with the way that our health care is structured more than well the system yes but it's not the companies that are at fault why should your your health insurance or why should your health care be attached to a job why can't you go to a doctor and say hey i don't have this i don't have a job that i don't have my
Starting point is 00:14:40 health insurance or health yeah health insurance through a job i just want to go ahead and pay you for this because i want this i want this service provided you can't really do that the prices because prices are not attached to the the purchaser doesn't actually see the prices because of the way that health care is so so it convolutes the market and you you don't have the same kind of competition that you do in other markets and so this is a complex topic that's actually fairly nuanced when it comes down to it. But because the left is still kind of ascendant when it comes to narrative building, the left has convinced simple people that it's a simple idea. Healthcare is desirable and good. And because there are people that make profit
Starting point is 00:15:26 off of healthcare or in any way they're the evil ones when someone dies because they don't get the healthcare and it's not that simple and to say that it's that simple it causes people that are, like Tim says, dumb to do things that are aggressive and acting out and violent.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And it's a bit I mean, it's just a bad deal. Anytime you allow the left to build the narrative around anything, it works in a very simple way. The people that don't get what they want are the oppressed. The people that have power are the oppressors. And the people that don't get what they want have the right to kill or steal from the people that do. That's it. It's the simple equation. Let's jump to this next story from the New York Post.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Guys, Luigi Mangione, yeah, he's not a right winger. He's not anti-war. He's a leftist. Okay. Accused CEO murderer Luigi Mangione grins at hearing to fight extradition to New York after screaming outburst on the way in. Well, let me play the video for you over here from ABC News, and you can hear him rant. And what he said is leftist coded language. So there's another story I want to stress where they're saying that a friend of his
Starting point is 00:16:36 says he was anti-woke. No, spare me, dude. Listen. Okay, so if you couldn't hear it, we have a transcription. They say it's completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the lived experience. He likely wanted to say more after that, but lived experience is literal leftist coded cult language. That's the dead giveaway. Yeah. Listen.
Starting point is 00:17:08 That's like saying my truth. Yep. It's already up there with that. Lived experience is such an esoteric phrase that if you went to any mall in this country and walked to someone and said, what's your defined lived experience? They would go, huh?
Starting point is 00:17:22 Like you mean like life experience? What does that mean? But if you're in the cult, you know exactly what's being said okay that is not something like you have to be in the cult right winger is going to talk about lived experience now it's like normie how is what is your life like is the way i would ask a question like that but i think they're more what that question means is your lived experiences how do you perceive the way you're being treated by your surroundings how do you feel not necessarily wronged but what how do you feel how do you feel you've been treated by your surroundings different than like what's your
Starting point is 00:17:52 life like like what is your life like what's your lived experience experiences how yeah how did you experience it privileges their subjective experience so it basically stops any kind of objective conversation of like no this is my lived You know, what's funny about this is this guy is like an Ivy Leaguer, right? And we're supposed to assume that he's a smart guy. And like, wow, he had the dream life. But I just want to express to people, back in the day when university was unattainable, when it was very difficult and you had to be wealthy and these are longstanding institutions, yeah, the smartest people got to go to them for the most part.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Now anyone who wants to take out massive five-figure loans can go to them. Just because, you know, actually, what show was I watching? It was Tulsa King, I think. I just binged the whole thing. And I think he's talking to, Sylvester Stallone's talking to the kid. And he says, the point of a degree is so that you can prove to your boss that you'll sit down, shut up, and do as you're told for a long period of time. That's what a degree gets you. That's why they they'll hire you it's like a finishing school in a way yeah this guy i bet had really good ability to memorize information like if he was this i don't
Starting point is 00:18:54 know that he's actually the killer it's still alleged seemingly uninterested in actually looking for the information yeah like he is like i just i just can't put these things together but these are the ideas i have learned and he if he was a methodical killer, the way he did it was very like planned and scripted and done. He probably thought he was like igniting a spark. I've seen some people comparing him to the, the Robert Palmer idea, you know, from fight club,
Starting point is 00:19:15 which, you know, I love that movie, but it's a, it's a silly comparison, but yeah, I don't know. He probably thought Robert Paulson,
Starting point is 00:19:21 Robert Paulson. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Don't be so much fight. Not among a bunch of millennial men. There's only two stone to get. probably thought Robert Paulson Robert Paulson that's right yeah yeah don't be smushed not among a bunch of millennial men oh wait there's only two stone to get so this guy I I think I would give him high intelligence low wisdom if I have to make him a D&D character maybe I I think you're
Starting point is 00:19:36 wrong well he's able to memorize if he's valedictorian he's obviously got memorization capability but that's not his ability to associate ideas as last able to memorize, like there are people who are developmentally disabled who can remember every moment of their life and they couldn't drive a car. Right. Yeah. Actually, this is true too. There are some people who are not developmentally disabled, but there's a phenomenon where they can read, they have perfect recall and it's considered to be some kind of a disability
Starting point is 00:20:02 because it actually is difficult to navigate the present. So there are people you can go to them and say, September 17th, 2013, 5 a.m. And they will literally tell you what they were doing. Fascinating. Fascinating. They call them savants. Savant was like a term they would use. Like they were terrible at a lot of things, but very good at that one. This guy doesn't seem smart in any respect.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Well, if he was valedictorian, he must have had memorization capability. And the way that murder was carried out was like very methodical. But then he's found with the IDs. Yeah, not very smart. That's not smart. Unless some people are speculating
Starting point is 00:20:39 he was intending to get caught so that he could have these lived experience outbursts with the police. Right. The way he screamed and get the experience. I was like, that's the guy. But I actually was thinking this. Why?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Why was he? Why was he sitting in McDonald's with a backpack full of all this stuff? Right. After the killing, there was a debate in the media as to whether or not it was a lover's tryst or related to ransomware or ideological. We don't know. And so if this dude, he's accused, he's not confirmed, but if he's ideologically driven, he's going, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:14 It should be obvious. It should be obvious why I did it. So he knew he had to get caught so that he could make sure the narrative was his political ideology. I think that's true, even if it was a subconscious, but I think so. I think that's literally, he wanted this narrative to get pushed. Well, didn't he live in, when was the last place that we know that he lived? I thought it was in Honolulu, right?
Starting point is 00:21:35 So, I mean, look, it's not easy to get to Hawaii. You need to get on a plane. And once the pictures got out, it was unlikely that he would be able to make it through an airport considering he got ID'd in a McDonald's. So maybe he didn't have anywhere to go. Did you see those pictures from McDonald's, though? He was wearing an orange beanie and a black poofy jacket. And I got to be honest, I see a bunch of people on X saying,
Starting point is 00:22:01 how did anyone recognize him as the shooter? Eyebrows. But he was wearing a brown beanie. He was wearing totally different clothes. And there's a photo of him from, like, decently close to him. And it's like, did someone walk up to him and snap a picture and call the cops? I don't know. I'm always amazed in these situations when people in the common world, in the real world, identify these people.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Because even if I recognize someone or think I do, I'm still going to be like, eh, I'm probably wrong. But there are people who just, they see someone and they're like, I think that's the guy. I don't know. Go ahead. I will add a lot of people come up to me and say, you know, you look like this guy, Tim Pool.
Starting point is 00:22:40 They don't just say, hey, I'm a big fan. They say, you look like this guy. That happened to me a couple weeks ago. You look like that guy on TimCast. I'm like, hey, I'm a big fan. They say, you look like this guy. Yeah, that happened to me a couple weeks ago. You look like that guy on TimCast. I'm like, well, I am that guy on TimCast. Yeah, I've just assumed that I'm getting it wrong, right? And so it's interesting to me how some people actually are just so sure. I recognize that guy.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But maybe it's this simple. We didn't hear all of the stories where the tips failed, right? So for all we know in, like, I don't know, Westchester, PA, somebody called the cops saying, I think I found the guy. And there's local cops not doing anything, and they say, we'll drive down and take a look. They drive up, and they see some random guy, and they go, that's just a random guy.
Starting point is 00:23:15 If that happens 10,000 times, no one's going to hear about it. But the one time it does, they got him. This guy has this stark face, too. He has a really, really kind of standout face. If he didn't want to get caught, he should have shaved his eyebrows, I guess, in retrospect. I mean, the eyebrows were definitely a distinguishing feature on him or a distinctive feature. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I mean, I don't know. I'm not the kind of person that sits there and is looking around. Who's this guy? Who's that? Does that? Bl and like is looking around. Who's this guy? Who's that? Does that blah, blah, blah. Right. So I probably wouldn't have been like, yo, that's the dude. Because, again, thick eyebrows is real.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's real tough to be like, that's the guy, you know. I just I wonder why it is we found out this guy's literal life story. We know about every drug he's taken, every book he's read, his opinions on the Unabomber, and we've learned nothing of Trump's assassin. Attempted assassin. Failed assassin. Sorry, failed assassin. Talking about Thomas Crooks. Nobody knows anything about him.
Starting point is 00:24:16 He just showed up one day and slipped through like a doily snake. Made it to the top of that building that nobody was on top of for some reason. And this guy, it's like within a couple days, it's like we can tell you how many like zits he's had. Yeah, this is like that underwater submersible implosion taking the world's attention by storm
Starting point is 00:24:36 where everyone's interested in finding this. What drugs has he taken? Was that guy Stockton Rush? Was that his name? I don't know. The owner of the submersible? I don't know. I mean, you don't really think that it's a conspiracy in this case, though, right? No, no.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I understand the frustration that people feel about the way that the Trump assassination attempt just sort of slipped away. Oh, in secret soldiers? No, no. What I'm saying is, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to cover anything up. I don't know. I certainly think the official narrative on the Trump assassination is complete nonsense.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Attempt. Attempted assassination. Attempt. Sorry. It must manifest that the attempt failed. Yeah, the attempt. It failed. But there's a lot of people who are saying this is a psyop because when they first released
Starting point is 00:25:17 the person of interest photos, I'm like, that's not the same guy. You look at the picture of the video of the assassination of the CEO. That was weird. The picture of the CEO. And it looks like it has a little heavier set and he seems to have thinner eyebrows and appears to be older, but who knows? Because the camera was above. I heard you say that and it didn't make sense. He did look heavier, but it might have been the angle of the camera.
Starting point is 00:25:37 There's two different camera angles. And his jacket could be poofy because he's wearing a sweater. Who knows? He had a bunch of gear on him. He could have had two jackets on because he wanted to pull one off and throw it away. I wouldn't read too much in that. Yeah, yeah. So that's why I'm saying, like, at the time, I thought when they said, here's a photo of a person of interest,
Starting point is 00:25:55 everybody said, that's the shooter. And I'm like, hold on there. This has happened before where people rush to accuse a person of interest of being the shooter or the bomber. And I'm not going to name the specific incidents, but 10 years ago, there was a very, very serious incident where the wrong person was ID'd and it caused a lot of problems.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And I'm like, a person of interest could be a guy they saw on camera, give him a high five. And they're like, how does that person know him? We want to talk to him. But everybody just said it was the shooter. Well, now they're saying it was. You know, I think you mentioned that the health care industry the whole system is kind of busted up like the whole pharmaceutical industry the the food and drug admit food and drug uh but the way
Starting point is 00:26:34 that they'll create you know toxic chemicals in the food supply that will then poison people and then they feed them uh medicine and they profit off of both arms. Like, I think I don't think there's a silver bullet. I don't think that there is a an immediate drastic solution like what this guy thought that ending if this was the guy killing a CEO is going to solve anything. That's why I support RFK in in positions of power in the government, because I think it's a long so we got into this in a long, slow way. And it's going to be a long, slow path out. I heard they're going to maybe ban Red 40 out of the—
Starting point is 00:27:08 Red 3. Red 3, one of the red azodis out of the food supply, which is like, hey, man, that's a step. Honestly, I think the fastest way to do it is to limit the government's ability or limit the government's involvement. If you put health care, not health insurance, but if you put care on the market, if they said that the hospitals and doctors, they have to put their prices, make their prices available for people to look at and make it possible for you to go from one doctor to another doctor and try out, see, hey, this doctor will do the procedure I want for cheaper. Unless you're dealing with something that's really, really bad or specialized, like cancer, when it comes to
Starting point is 00:27:56 broken legs or broken bones, or if you need antibiotics because you got an infection, you got a cut that's infected or whatever. If you put that stuff on the market, you'll see the price of healthcare, that kind of healthcare, go down significantly really, really, really fast. That'd be great. But the fact of the matter,
Starting point is 00:28:19 and you shouldn't need, you should not need insurance because you broke a bone. Well, I think one of the things that we could do a better job of really trying to foreground for people is just the sheer, massive, unnecessary amount of bureaucracy involved now. And, you know, like, for instance, I mean, I know doctors who've been in the industry for decades and they're they're counseling people don't get into this industry because you're going to spend 90 of your time doing paperwork 90 of it's of a doctor's time spent doing paperwork and a lot of that is tied up with the government and government requirements and and so i think that these are things that should be foregrounded in any discussion but this is this is my exact point and when when it comes to the healthcare situation in the United States, this is probably where I am most libertarian because
Starting point is 00:29:09 people, it's not a market at all. There's no competition. The insurance companies pay the doctors, the doctors put prices that are exorbitant because they can, you know, I mean, you hear people talking about, you know, 50 bucks for two Tylenol when they were in or whatever, like these kinds of things should not be, they should not cost as much as they, as they do. And if you had a market where you, where there was competition, all of these things would drop significantly. I got LASIK in my, like lasers shot in my eyes like 13 years ago in 2012. And it was very inexpensive considering the procedure then. And I imagine it's significantly less money now.
Starting point is 00:29:53 This is why people go to Mexico for healthcare. 100%. That's nuts. Everybody I know, okay, not literally everybody. I have tons of friends who are just like, if you can take a ride down to Tijuana, you're get like i was talking to luke about it luke was saying like they do um what do they do they do this thing where to make the dental work heal faster they will take your own blood spin down like spin it to get the platelets and then inject the platelets
Starting point is 00:30:20 so that it heals real quick the prp platP, platelet-rich plasma? Something like that. And it's like things they don't do in the U.S., they do down there for like a fraction of the price. It's wild. And it's regulation. It's not that we can't do it. It's that they're over-regulating. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And I think the reason it's over-regulated is because they want to mitigate harm. They want to make sure that on the off chance of the 99 people to get the project, one of the people is going to be hurt. They're like, no, then you can't do the project. I don't agree. Why do you think it's over-regulated? I think it's more like the government comes up to the doctor and says,
Starting point is 00:30:56 hey, you know, maybe you give us a little piece of what you're doing and you come to us before you do it. And they're like, that's going to take me months. Well, we want a little taste. It started because the government wanted to put controls on how much money people could be paid. So in response, companies started saying, well, we'll offer this benefit package. We'll pay for your health, health care. We'll pay for this. We'll pay for that. So there were addition when the government stepped in and said, you can't pay these people more than this because this job is only worth this much, etc.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Then the companies had to come up with other ways to attract the best workers. So the way that they did it was they came up with benefit packages. And people don't know this. I think everybody should know this. I, as an employer, cannot legally hire a janitor and pay him six figures. You can't? I cannot do it. Is it like tax fraud or something?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yes. You have to. You are required to write out what the job position is and the rate must be market. There's a range. And if you're overpaying, you're going to get audited. Now, depending on the size of the company. Are you serious? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:03 People don't know this stuff. So I remember when we first started this company, I was like, hey, I want to buy my mom a house. My mom deserves a house. And I have a successful show. And they said, well, you can't do that. I was like, what do you mean I can't? Why can't I? I was like, I got money now, right?
Starting point is 00:32:17 I could buy a house. You take it alone and pay the down payment. No. No. And like, no, that would be an illegal gift. Now, if you want a family, how crazy now there are there are certain things you can file up to fifteen thousand dollars this year. You can gift somebody and you don't need to do anything beyond that. You have to file for a gift for the year and then there's taxes to be taken out of it. So you can transfer money, but that's
Starting point is 00:32:40 huge taxes. I said, OK, so what if I paid what if I buy the house, then what taxes? And they're like, okay, well then your mom would have to pay income tax on the, on the, on the house. So if the house costs 200 grand, she owes 27%. And I'm buying, can I pay that? And then there's this diminishing return where it's like, yes, you can pay the taxes, but it's still more income. So it's a diminishing, it's like basically overpay to stop it from happening. So there are ways you can do it, but it's overly complicated. So I was talking to him and I said, can I hire my mom for a job? And he goes, it has to be a real job. And I was like, yeah, she could do something. And he was like, if you pay anyone above markets, they have to have a position with a job description and it has to be and you have to be able to prove upon audit they do that job because understand there are lots of wealthy people
Starting point is 00:33:31 that would love to hire a family member for a ridiculous salary so they could funnel money to another company, to a family, to a friend or whatever. And so that's why these laws exist. So let me just stress it one more time. Phil, 100% correct. We have a list of every employee here. Their job title is a legitimate title that is recognized by the government, and it has to fit the parameters of what people get paid.
Starting point is 00:33:51 If we go above that, we risk getting audited and accused of trying to skip on taxes. So this is why these CEOs will have salaries. I'm actually asking of like, you know, meager means $600,000 a year, whatever. And then what do you get? $83,000 a month. And then his benefits are? Yes, I believe Bezos gets $83,000 a month. That's kind of a rule of Hunter Biden.
Starting point is 00:34:13 His salary is $1 million a year. Okay, that's like what Hunter was getting at Burisma, I think. $83,000 a month or something. $83,000. Don't want to mix him up with Hunter Biden's payments from Burisma. But that's because I think it comes down to a million a year. So then the benefits is where, and then companies get creative with benefits, and that's how they funnel wealth into their employment.
Starting point is 00:34:32 So one common practice is, okay, so this job is you're a software engineer. You make $120,000 a year. You can get paid more. You can say this person is getting $150,000. The market rate is 120. That's reasonable. And you can arguably say, well, this is the best engineer in the world. We're paying him double.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And that's still technically reasonable. What they end up doing is they'll say, OK, we're going to hire you at 120 market rate. We're going to give you another 120 in CDs to be paid out half at this point, half at this point. So it doesn't appear as income. And you'll pay taxes in the year after your contract expires. So they'll say a three-year contract to complete the project. Once the project is over, you're going to have a CD that you can then cash out. So for that year, you'll receive capital gains income or whatever, and it will be
Starting point is 00:35:21 taxed at a different rate. There's a whole bunch of ways powerful and wealthy individuals navigate the tax system that people don't understand. But I just want to say this one more time. The government doesn't let you give money to anybody you want. The government doesn't let you hire anybody you want. And so what Phil's saying is companies then say, okay, we'll pay for your health insurance. We'll pay. And now we've created this ridiculous system that's very weird. And it's like, break a bone. I hope you have a job. And it's like, no, no, no, hold on. You should be able to pay for it. So you probably need a job in the first place. But why is it that when you get hired, your employer has to give you health insurance? That's just the weirdest thing ever. And it all started because of government intervention.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And the government shouldn't have, the government has no right to do this. But a large part of the justification, just like Tim said, is because of taxes. It's because the control people in ways that most people don't even think about. You know, it's the income tax is why the dollar has value, which we've talked about before. The fact that the income tax is required to be paid in U.S. dollars, that's what allowed them to take the backing of gold and silver away. It used to be the gold and silver backed the dollar, and that's what gave it value. But now, because of the income tax, they've created what they call modern monetary theory, where taxation is what gives the dollar value because there's always going to be a demand for dollars. Here's another great comment from a healthy user. Tim's employees should be 1099 contracts so he can pay them whatever they want. Also illegal. That's called permalancing. And it's a very serious crime. You're not allowed to do that. And so when we talk to people, you know, I hear these comments on, you know, I went to go
Starting point is 00:37:20 work for I got a contract offer from insert media company and they wanted to own everything I had. And I'm like, yeah, that's like a legal requirement. Like blame the government for all of this. Stop blaming corporations for doing what the government is forcing them to do and start blaming the government. And then we can get Thomas Massey and Rand Paul. We can get Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy and they can start ripping into shreds the bureaucracy, firing people who shouldn't be there, and figure out why things are regulated in such ridiculous ways. Yeah, you want, I mean, I can see why you would want to protect. Okay, so a corporate guy, he's like, I sell a product.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I make $100 billion a year. I want to give $50 billion of it to my brother. And we'll just say that's his salary. I see why the, someone's got to be like, hold on there. Why? I mean, I don't know. I guess because it can be abused. A father works his hands to the bone.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Literally, his fingertips are gone, and it's just bone sticking out, and he's like, I am an old man, and I have made $50 million so I can give to my children. And the government goes, no. We get half. First, we're going to tax it at 37%. You're going to pay, on average,
Starting point is 00:38:24 look, if a wealthy person is playing their cards right with a tax lawyer and an accountant, then depending on where they're making their money, if it's income, it's going to be 37%. Then you've got property taxes and everything else. If they're playing loopholes with capital gains, they can make a lot of money doing other things. But let's just say someone does physical labor to the point where they made $50 million. They get taxed at 37% on everything above, I think it's like $270,000.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It might be like $360,000 right now if he's married. And then after, so the majority of it is taxed at basically more than a third. Then when he dies, they get another half of that. Why can't someone just give their family member money having earned it if they choose? Or their friend. Like, why does it have to stop at family? I mean— So they all—what they do is they either create limited liability corporations where they start a company with a family member and then say, I'm investing a billion dollars into this company, of which my son is a 50% shareholder.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Then when they—so remember when Markuckerberg announced he was don't he was giving away all his money and everybody clapped and they were like wow he's giving away his money so i could be wrong about this you can fact check me i always think those those pledges are crocs of yeah it's you give your money to a corporation so you give all your money and then it's an it's basically protected like a trust that's where trusts are you put money in a trust you know later on it pays you back. It is kind of wild. Like a family trust or something.
Starting point is 00:39:48 There are trusts out of Delaware where you basically don't pay any taxes. And so the argument is—I could be totally wrong about this because I don't do it, but I had talked to a tax lawyer, and he's like, here's what you do. You get a specific kind of trust out of Delaware. It costs $5,000 a year to maintain with the state. All of your money goes into this trust, and the trust is just being replenished and you're getting wealthier. Right. So there's all these – there's loopholes. I think that there's a real disconnect between a lot of the underlying government causes of a lot of these frustrations and problems that people have and people's awareness of it.
Starting point is 00:40:45 We're talking about Taylor Lorenz last night and her laughable comments. And I think that, you know, there's so many people actually like her out there who have some vague sense that there's something wrong with our health care system. And it's just easier and more symbolically satisfying to blame it on the CEOs of insurance companies than to actually get into the muck of really dissecting what's going on here with this, a lot of it having to do with government interference and regulation. Yeah, but I do think the government has a role, and that's the government being an arm of the people, the people coming together socially and being like,
Starting point is 00:41:19 we're going to ban certain products from sale in our country, like poison, certain poisons that are very profitable and addictive to the human body. Maybe like, I don't know, azo dyes in general. I don't know how addictive they are, but like petroleum-based food coloring apparently causes hypertension or can lead to hypertension in children and humans, which can cause inflammation. So like maybe we could ban that stuff like RFKs. When you look at the U.S. versus Europe, you know, there's a joke among people who have ever traveled to Europe that you feel so much better after you've been away from this place and the food that we eat for a while. And that's because actually, you know, if you go to Europe, a lot of the time you're getting food more or less sort of straight from the source, you know, straight from the source.
Starting point is 00:42:01 American gangster reference there. But you are more or less, you know, the fish was caught right over here or what have you. And over here, it seems like there's so many more processes. That does exist if you're wealthy. Right. So for the average poor American, you're basically being forced to eat garbage. And I say forced lightly. You go to the grocery store, you make a choice.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And I was telling this story a couple weeks ago. Allison and I went to the grocery store, and I love choice, okay? And I was telling this story a couple weeks ago. Allison and I went to the grocery store, and I love getting little cottage cheeses. It's very healthy. It's keto-friendly, they call it. And Allison grabbed a pack of this, I don't know what the company is, and I looked at the ingredients, and it's got a bunch of weird garbage in it. It's got emulsifiers and stuff. Daisy, which does the sour cream and the cottage cheese, their ingredients,
Starting point is 00:42:51 it's like skim milk, cream, salt. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to buy that. So for a lot of people, they're eating Kraft macaroni and cheese. They're eating these like off the shelf products with tartrazine and red dye three and those other things because it's cheap. They're not getting proper nutrition. They're not getting proper diets. They're getting morbidly obese. They're not getting proper nutrition. They're not getting proper diets. They're getting morbidly obese. They're getting chronic illness. RFK Jr. is right. And it sort of is an extrapolation of the lion diet that Michaela Peterson talks a lot about, which ultimately, from what she's explained, it's just all meat. Whatever a lion would eat, that's what she eats. Hyena. Beef, et cetera, and salt.
Starting point is 00:43:21 But then what's really happening is it's an elimination diet. All the stuff you don't eat, all the stuff you've taken out of your diet. Toxic stuff. Yeah, I think that's what the government should be doing is providing a sort of elimination diet now for our populace. This is a big trend among millennials. Like soda consumption is massively down.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And that's why there's these commercials popping up where it's the coalition of soda drinks of America. Did you know that we have low sugar options? And then there's like a guy in a white lab coat and they like show all these things. And I'm like, I have here a Spindrift. They do not sponsor the show, but I will shout them out.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Why? Ingredients, carbonated water, grapefruit juice, orange juice, lemon juice, hibiscus. I love it so much. That's awesome. The pineapple, I'm gonna, I'm like shooting myself in the foot with this. The pineapple Spindrift is so good.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And I tell people that on stream and then it sells out. And it's so frustrating because I get it on Amazon and then it's like six bucks for 12 of them or for eight of them. And then they're sold out. This is what soda should be. But I want to spread the wealth. It's got four carbs. Three of it is sugars. And there's no sugar added.
Starting point is 00:44:21 It's just sparkling water with a little fruit juice. I don't want to drink a bottle of syrup, okay? But there are a lot of people go to the store, they pick up a Coca-Cola, Pepsi, whatever it is, get their high fructose corn syrup. Maybe they can't afford the spin drifts. I don't know. They don't know they exist.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I think a lot of people, it's still kind of... We're going to make America healthy again. Yeah, we are. So help us. We will do it. You got to be careful with that stuff when you do. That stuff will rip your teeth up though. I was drinking a lot of Spindrift.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It put holes in my enamel. I don't know if I can blame solely. Yeah, I think it's the carbonation itself. No, it's the acid. But soda will do worse. Fruit juice has a lot of acid in it. Lemon will do worse. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Soda's a million times. I mean, I don't know how many times worse, but all that sugar. You got a raspberry lime over there. Spindrift, it's the best. Okay. And you can add juice to it, too, like a really good organic peach juice. I pour a little bit into my Spindrift is the best. Okay. And you can add juice to it too, like a really good organic peach juice. I pour a little bit into my Spindrift.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I go to a restaurant, I say, give me a club soda with some lemon. That's what I drink. So when I saw Spindrift, which is basically a club soda with lemon, I'm like, then we got all the flavors now. I'm a big fan. Okay. Not a sponsor or anything like that, but it's just a great product. Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial. Trump team preps executive order
Starting point is 00:45:25 to end birthright citizenship on day one. Based. What say you, panel? I think that if... Say based. Based. I have a feeling that it's going to go to the Supreme Court. I have a feeling there's going to be challenges
Starting point is 00:45:38 and then it's going to go to the Supreme Court, which is a good thing because then the Supreme Court can actually rule on whether or not there should be anchor babies or not. Because conceptually, I think most Americans and I can't say everyone, but I think most Americans are against the idea of if you can get pregnant and then get to America when you're nine months pregnant, you can you'll no one's going to send you away because you're nine months pregnant you can you'll no one's gonna send you away because you're nine months pregnant and oh look the poor pregnant lady have a baby and then you can just stay
Starting point is 00:46:10 because you got here like that's a bad precedent let me pull up the 14th amendment so i can break this down for everybody and the leftists can whinge section one of the 14th amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the united states in the state wherein they reside. What does that sentence mean? Anybody want to get it? What was the intent of that sentence? Well, I mean, it was initially it was to to make sure that black slaves were considered. They were literally saying of the adult population in this country that was born here and subject to our jurisdiction, we hereby say you are citizens. That was the point of the 14th Amendment.
Starting point is 00:46:52 It was not to say at some point when a person from Germany shows up and has a baby, that baby under our jurisdiction will be a citizen. It seems like this was grossly misinterpreted. It was quite the whole thing is quite little about the Civil War. Section three, no person shall be a senator or senator of Congress having waged insurrection, blah, blah, blah. The validity of public debt by the U.S. authorized incurred during payment of pensions and bounties and services suppressing insurrection. It's literally the Civil War. They're literally saying, hey, there's a 20 year old black man who was born here and we have jurisdiction over him.
Starting point is 00:47:25 You're a citizen. That was it. It was the end of slavery. And it's turned into somehow that a Guatemalan family can illegally enter the country by crossing a border and then within a few months give birth, and that baby is now a permanent citizen. Think about how stupid that sounds. A woman from China flies at eight months pregnant, seven months and stays on a three month visa, gives birth. The United States flies home.
Starting point is 00:47:51 That kid is raised for 30 years in China, but has U.S. citizenship the whole time. I don't think the family not was intended. Now, I know the founding fathers didn't intend to be flying around on anything because they certainly didn't comprehend how that would happen. Maybe hot air balloons. They did have those. Yeah, they did. Ben Franklin got it. And hot air balloons.
Starting point is 00:48:09 They used them for warfare. But the idea that someone from a foreign country would come here, have a kid, and then leave. I'm sorry. I've got to clarify. Not the founding fathers, but the government at the time of the Civil War. They didn't intend for the British to come over, have kids. They're citizens now. And they can be your president. And take over and have kids. They'd be like, they're our citizens now and they can be
Starting point is 00:48:26 your president. Take them back to Britain. Right. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I think that they were also trying to grow the population for the first half
Starting point is 00:48:33 of the country's existence for the first two-thirds up until the middle 1900s. They had like seven kids, dude. What? Who did? Women be cranking out babies.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah, they did. Look at the movie the patriot with mel gibson pumping them out time yeah what did he have baby baby baby a lot of kids work the farm kid get to work make babies maybe one day you'll have a farm of your own but so i think that this people like sex back then too so a lot they still do and that was and that was that was you know the kids were the before birth control kids were the result of sex and And I hear the Sabbath, the Jewish Sabbath, is a lot about impregnating your wife every Saturday. It's like put down the technology and have sex with your wife all day until she's pregnant. And then take nine months off.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And then as soon as she's had the kid, do it again. I'm in no position to make that. I was told that by a hardcore Jewish person. So I don't know. Maybe they were more lax about having new citizens before when they wrote this thing. But the idea that a British person could come over here, sneak into the country. Well, they were ideally people weren't sneaking into the country, but have a bunch of kids, have a kid and then take them back to Britain, educate them with the British ideology. And then there but they're an American citizen is is crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And I don't know why there's not a loophole in there for like, you've got to live here for 10 years or something. I just don't think they anticipated this entire matrix of travel, like you were saying, air travel, and also just the huge influx of immigration that we would end up having. And they said, you can amend this constitution. We're writing it for today, and you're supposed to change it over time when it makes sense for your community and your society you have to change this thing it's not a static document it's a static document unless you because the because it is a string it is a stringent process to change it yes it's a static document that can be changed in its state and its order of stasis can be donald trump will issue an executive order on day one the aclu will have a seizure and vomit on themselves and file a lawsuit and then it will quickly go to the supreme court as it is already a federal issue and uh the supreme court will i i think they'll agree with trump i mean i hope so because i i do think
Starting point is 00:50:38 that the idea of you know anchor baby someone just coming here and being like, oh, now me and my, because I mean, do you get the whole, like someone is born here or you have a kid here and then mom can stay to take care of the kid. And then because of that, they can start chain migration. It's a ridiculous. Look at what the left is saying. Trump's, they're saying Trump's going to deport U.S. citizens, yet children because their parents are leaving. Leftists, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I say this, Donald Trump, here's a proposal. The proposal is we're not going to deport any U.S. citizens. That three-year-old child can stay here as a ward of the state or can go with their parents back home. Yep. And then when they're 18, they can come back to the U.S. The left wants family separation. What can I say?
Starting point is 00:51:19 I don't have a problem with family separation. Do you think that Trump is going to come through really hardcore with the immigration stuff? I mean, if he's talking about doing it on day one. Yeah. That's a bold statement to say on day one he's going to do this stuff. Yeah. Because day one is two months. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Not even. We're looking at a month and ten days. I can't wait to see what. I just want to see what happens. I do have a preference, a policy preference that I want to see. But I really want to see what happens when Donald Trump i i do have a you know a preference a policy preference that i want to see but i really want to see like what happens when donald trump is actually the president again and is actually starting to influence policy making executive orders and pressuring congress to do things and pass legislation that he can sign you know he was to do this executive order thing what would that look like well i, I mean, he said it would.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I don't know. I don't think that it's been fleshed out. But there are people, even if he didn't tell people on his staff that this was his intent before he said this on the show, you know, as soon as they heard him say that, they're like, all right, well, we got to start writing because that's exactly what happened when he made an offhanded remark about silent about about silencers when there was a shooting used with with a silencer. And he was like, yeah, someone said, don't you think these should be illegal? And he's like, well, we'll look into it. And people, even though he didn't actually specifically tell anyone, he said in an interview, people heard that people on the staff heard that like, all right, we got to start coming up with some kind of framework for how that'll work and et cetera, et cetera. So this is like he's saying he's going to make an executive order that will override the Constitution? No, no. He's saying he's going to issue an executive order that says the Constitution of the Fourth Amendment must be
Starting point is 00:52:56 enforced as it's written. That is to say, if you are born in this country and subject to its jurisdiction, you're a citizen guess what if two people who are not of the united states come here and have a child that child is not subject to its jurisdiction it's subject to this the jurisdiction of the citizenship of the families let's put it this way if uh two people came here from china and gave birth to a child and then the u.s tried taking that child saying it's ours, what do you think China's going to do? Right. They're going to be like, no, you're not. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:32 But I think it's a—it honestly is fairly simple. Like Tim said, if they're subject to its jurisdiction, the words in these amendments matter. Like the idea that you can just interpret around the intent and purpose of an of a um of an amendment that's that's you know that's constructing law from the bench and that's something that the the judiciary is not supposed to do the judiciary is not supposed to write law at the at the most they're supposed to interpret law but they're definitely not supposed to create law i'm really starting i'm starting to, actually, the legitimacy of what you guys are talking about. I'm just going to reiterate what's been said, and people in the chat are like, he's so just doing that.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Anyway, people come over here illegally. They're here illegally. They have a kid on the soil while they're illegally here. The kid isn't necessarily subject to the jurisdiction of the state. Correct. Because they were here born of illegal people that are here illegally. Right. But why would a child be subject to our jurisdiction simply for being born here, right?
Starting point is 00:54:34 Let's say a family from Mexico visits the United States as tourists and they bring their seven-year-old kid. None of them are subject to our jurisdiction. We have certain jurisdiction where we can say we're deporting you, but they're subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico as Mexican nationals and we have a treaty by which we respect them
Starting point is 00:54:49 and we allow them here on certain terms. So the argument they're making is that, oh, but if you're in our jurisdiction, we can arrest you. And it's like, yes, but we can't imprison you
Starting point is 00:54:58 because it creates an international crisis where that country then makes demands over their citizens who they have jurisdiction over. A lot of times if someone from another country breaks the law we'll arrest them and then just ship them out here it's not it's not our jurisdiction it's you are here in our
Starting point is 00:55:11 country committed a crime and we're sending you home what does it mean to be subject to the jurisdiction of the the principal argument is that when this was written it was referring to slaves of the united states who were born here and have no other country to call home. They were under the jurisdiction of the U.S. government where slave patrols could capture them if they tried to escape. After the Civil War, they said, if you were born here and subject to our jurisdiction, you're a citizen. Yeah, this says United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 649 in 1898 the supreme court wrote that uh subject to the jurisdiction would appear to have been to exclude by by the fewest and fittest words besides children
Starting point is 00:55:53 of members of the indian tribes children and what can you articulate that one more so uh it's supposed to jurisdiction subject to the jurisdiction there are kind of um beers appears to have excluded uh members of indian have excluded members of Indian, children of members of Indian tribes. So here's a super chat. They're in the country, but they're not subject to the jurisdiction. Amos Moses says, before the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, Indians born in the U.S. were not citizens because they were not subject to the U.S. jurisdiction.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah. They had treaties. They have their own land. Still to this day, on native land, there are certain federal regulations based on treaties, but this is what actually created casinos. They were arguing that they were not to be regulated by the state, and the states were like, yeah, right. And they were like, try me, dude.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Technically, that's why you hear about the Cherokee Nation. They're considered a nation of their own. They're considered separate from the United States of America. And because of that, they're not subject to the jurisdiction. There are— It's kind of wild, right, to imagine being like 1890 and you literally just walk into town and go, I'm a citizen. How would they know? What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:56:58 I mean, there's birth records and stuff. Would you be like, oh, yeah, but I'm from California? I mean, it was assumed everybody was a citizen if you were in america because it was hard to get here because you know it was you know the late 1800s the ships took a long time to get across the ocean so now it wasn't impossible but it was much harder than it is today where you know if you have a thousand dollars or a couple thousand dollars you can get across the ocean and get an escort all the way through South America up to the border. I mean, there was still resentment, you know, even 100 years ago or so of immigrants. But it was definitely, I mean, the accessibility now and the ease with which people can break these rules.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And they can get rid of their accent by watching American English TV from the age of one. Oh, dude, I knew a guy who lived in Turkey who learned English by watching Family Guy. And then, because before, they probably always would have an accent. If they came over on a boat, you'd know, because they had a crazy Irish accent or something. They talked like that. So now that Trump... I'm kidding, he didn't. But we have, you know, Trump has the White House, and
Starting point is 00:57:59 the Republicans have both houses, and the Supreme Court is pretty stacked, so there should be no issue then, right, with with him implementing. Yeah. Now Trump can arrest every single Democratic voter in the country and send them to Europe. Let's jump to the story of the nation. President Biden should issue a blanket pardon of undocumented immigrants. I'm not going to read a stupid argument. Basically, the nation is arguing that Biden should basically say all illegal immigrants are hereby pardoned for the crime of entering the country and Trump can't deport you. Well, I mean, you could still I I don't know the details of what's in this stupid piece by the nation, which is basically a communist rag. But the idea that just because you're pardoned that like just because you're pardoned doesn't mean that you become a citizen.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So maybe the pardon will say, okay, you're not subject to punishment, but that doesn't mean we can't still wrap you up and send you back home. At least I don't understand why it would mean that they're automatically naturalized. You could pardon them for the crime of entering the country, but that doesn't mean that them being here isn't still a crime. Well, not only that, but even if they say, okay, this isn't a crime, you being here, but you can say you aren't a citizen, so you need to go back to where you're from.
Starting point is 00:59:16 We're not going to put you into the, you're not going to have to be punished for it. You're not going to have to go to jail or anything or pay any fines. But we can still remove you and send you home. I'm just amazed at how tone deaf, how persistently tone deaf these kinds of writers, these kinds of articles are to not be able to read the room better. The place that we're at as a nation now is I think that immigration, undocumented, illegal immigration, it has reached a level that almost everyone agrees it's a problem. I don't think, I mean, this is just this kind of, this attitude is so outdated.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And so it's just interesting after this election to see this still being promoted. It was like 70% of Americans were comfortable with not just closing the border or building the wall or whatever. It was 70 percent of Americans were OK with rounding up illegals and sending them home. And many more Latinos, for example, than the left would than the left evidently expected. And I and, you know, I'm from Texas and I interact all the time with people from Latino heritage heritage. And they and so many of them are fed up with undocumented illegal immigration themselves. So many of them voted Trump. And they say, really, it's insulting for people to assume that just because I'm from this particular heritage that I don't believe in doing things in a proper law-abiding way. And here's the thing, too. A lot of people, once they make it to America,
Starting point is 01:00:46 they want to shut the door behind them because they understand that if you let too many people in, then it's not going to be the place that they were wanting to immigrate to in the first place. Exactly. And another thing that I just want to point out is the idea that all Latinos are the same, that is only acceptable to white people.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It's so racist. It's people. What? Racist people. Well, I mean, I'm not sure. Many of them happen to be white. I'm not sure if it's intended to be racist, but it's definitely ignorant. You know, if you tell a Puerto Rican and a Mexican, you guys are basically the same,
Starting point is 01:01:21 right? They're going to kill you. They're going to berate you. They're going to yell at you. They're going to call you all kinds of names. They're going to kill you. They're going to berate you. They're going to yell at you. They're going to call you all kinds of names. They're going to make fun of you. Like, that is absolutely not true. So the way that the left just, you know, throws everybody into a pot so that way they can use them as a tool against the right.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And that's the only reason they do it. Well, it's the same thing with voter ID and the idea that black people can't obtain identification. It's so right. I can't use the Internet. It's so racist. The term POC was such a racist person of color. Like your skin is a little different color.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Let's put you in a box with a bunch of other people with similar skin. Skins don't match mine. You don't know how to get ID. You're too stupid or you're too non-savvy about basic internet technology and government procedures to get an ID. I mean, it's just so insulting. How racist people can become in the attempt to be non-racist. In the attempt to project non-racism. Yeah, exactly. We're going to hold up all these other people's skin colors abilities to do it's just
Starting point is 01:02:29 such a I don't know man Morgan Freeman had it right look I'm a man you're a man that's how we defeat racism that's a liberal principle that's the whole the whole idea is to be is to look at people as if they're people. But the left doesn't want to do that because, as I've said multiple times on this show, happy people don't revolt. So they use race as a way to make people think that they have something to be angry at other people about. They do what they can to incite racial grievance, and that's part of why race has been such a hot topic the past 10 to 15 years. It's intentional because the left uses that to get power.
Starting point is 01:03:17 They use race as a way to get power. And as many people have been pointing out over the past couple of weeks, like Arne McIntyre's making this point, the Civil Rights Act has basically was the first domino to fall over in what created racial grievance and identitarian grievance. And I don't think they're completely wrong. I don't know that I completely agree 100 percent, because I do believe that just because we say, hey, man, like, let's be reasonable. Don't tell someone they can't shop at your store because they're black or they're Mexican or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:49 We can set limits. But the end result basically turns into everybody will file lawsuits citing that precedent and simply saying, because of my insert immutable characteristic, I am protected and you can't do these things to me. So the Civil Rights Act has basically created the circumstance where everybody now wants to justify why they are an aggrieved class of victim. So you end up with now gender identity and a Supreme Court ruling that, yep, if you're trans, you're protected under the Civil Rights Act. And it's like, OK, well, now there's no line anymore because gender identity is not defined anywhere. So we know what it means to be white or not white, for the most part,
Starting point is 01:04:26 because the loss is race. So if a guy comes in, and he's got, he might be white, he might be black, I don't know, maybe a parent or grandparent in there, and the guy says, you look like a person of a different race, so get out. Okay, well, you can't do that. But now what's happening with the gender identity stuff is they're basically saying, like, men can have beards and women women can have beards and men might wear dresses and women might wear suits. Therefore, anyone can be anything at any time and they're gender fluid. Now that means basically
Starting point is 01:04:53 everything is a protected class, no matter what. I think that may get overturned at the Supreme Court, depending on what happens with that latest ruling on gender ideology, but we'll see. But the argument being made by a lot of the post-liberals, these are people who are liberal and now they're like, hey, wait a minute, the rules and the world that we put in place based on these ideas have resulted in rampant wokeness and grievances. What do you do to solve for it? I have no idea. Well, you look at reality, I sounded like Dave Rubin there. You look at his accent, you look at it just plaintively without presumption, like having a large influx of foreigners illegally into your
Starting point is 01:05:31 country can damage the stability of your country. I don't care about what race you are. I don't care about what color your skin was before you got here. I don't care about any of that. I more value the stability of our nation and our community. So if you look at it from the, the starting point of like, how do we stabilize the system? Then I think pretty much like you were saying, 70% of the people are like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:05:52 yeah. You can't just like barge through the border on, on affiliated. Like you can't, it's, it's too destabilizing for any country. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:06:00 I looked at, I, the idea of assimilation was something that was, uh, obvious and basically universal for Americans. And it used to be celebrated. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look at the early part of the 20th century.
Starting point is 01:06:14 The people that came to America, the young people weren't allowed to speak the home country's language at home because they wanted to make sure the kids learned English and spoke English. And they all tried to become American. And nowadays, it is more valuable to try to not become an American and be aggrieved. It used to be, I want to become American so I can work hard and I can get ahead because I believe in America. And now it's, I want to get to America so I can get on some kind of assistance because they'll give it to me because I'm XYZ identity. And that is a terrible policy.
Starting point is 01:06:48 It's going to bank and it's going to bankrupt the country. I blame the blasted World Economic Forum for trying to disempower the United States' greatness and take control of these global liberal economic order banks. I think the seeding poison in the minds of the American youth and the global youth. I've had enough of it. We're immune now. And I'll keep going if you want me to. It's like almost a non sequitur there.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I think that's funny. Well, I think this whole idea of like, I don't want to assimilate. I don't care to assimilate has been seeded in. Like, I remember when you'd go sign up for a website and always, what country are you from? United States would be at the top. It was alphabetical, except United States was at the top. Now it's at the bottom. Sometimes, sometimes it is, but I've also seen it coming back and getting put at the top.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Why am I scrolling all the way down of every single country in the world? For a while, I was like, why is it not alphabetical? Why do I get, and then it was gone. And I was like, wow, we really are the least worst country out there. And now it's back. And I'm like, good, I'm down for some American supremacy, but in a good way the ideology all cultures are good yeah not militaristically not i mean maybe we need uh some protective essence on the planet but like i'm talking about the cultural benevolence of like free speech and things like that i i think uh i i you know ian had this rant where he said the u.s military should go and bring constitutional republicanism to all countries of the planet whether they want it or not. Wait, the military? You said that. I'm not
Starting point is 01:08:11 sure if I said military, did I? No, I wouldn't have said that. You said that you thought it was good that the military was trying to bring democracy. Hold on a second. You're making me sound like George Bush Jr. here. Bro, you literally said this, and we were all shocked. We would pull up the tape, Serge. And I can't remember. Elad was like, my man. He would have said that if I did say that. It was like Afghanistan, and you said,
Starting point is 01:08:34 we were bringing constitutional order that would guarantee free speech and certain rights to people around the world. I don't think we can do it military. I don't think that imposing authority through force is the way anymore because the internet, you see it, you see through it. But the cultural awesomeness of the music and the television shows, the little kids that want to learn English from the age of one, that want to be a movie star, they want to go to Hollywood. That stuff I love. So let's jump to the story.
Starting point is 01:08:58 This is breaking. Nancy Mace was physically assaulted. This is the report that we're getting right now. We don't have a lot of details. Nick Sorter says Nancy Mace was physically assaulted by a pro-trans man at the Capitol tonight. Does that mean it's like a guy who supports transgender issues? I bet anything that it was a trans. Well, a pro-trans.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Well, let me keep reading. It says the left is insanely violent. He says this has gone too far. Nancy Mace is sending these degenerates a message. Your trans violence and threats in my life will only make me double down. She has a tweet where she says I was physically accosted to not end Capitol grounds over my fight to protect women. Capitol police have arrested him. All of the violence and threats proving our point. Women deserve to be safe. Your threats will not stop my fight for women. So she said him
Starting point is 01:09:43 and knowing her position on the issue, this means it was a biological man who identified as a man, but was in support of trans issues. Oh, wow. A man that actually assaulted. That was a leftist guy. Yeah, I mean, which isn't a surprise. Leftists are, you know, they're violent.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Here's my question for everybody here is, right now, Rudyard is at two of a thousand. Rudyard, what a false history, says,, 1000 people will have died over political with a political motivation domestically. I hope he's wrong. And I certainly hope he's wrong, too, considering it's been a month since the election where he did predict Trump would win and then we would see a thousand dead. Two people have died thus far on political on politically motivated grounds. It's the CEO, of course. And then someone tried to kill Marjorie Taylor Greene and in the circumstance ended up killing an innocent woman. Now, I know a lot of people are going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened?
Starting point is 01:10:38 I know when I tell you the real story, you're going to say, ah, OK. She was swatted and the bomb squad rushing to her home to save her life crashed, killing an innocent woman who was driving and got hit. So that's collateral damage of leftist terrorism. But I do believe it is fair to say that someone made an attempt on the life of Marjorie Taylor Greene. And as the police rushed to save her, the killing of the innocent woman is her getting caught in the crossfire. So two of a thousand. Do you think we will see one thousand by April? I don't think
Starting point is 01:11:09 we will. I'm hoping that Rudyard is wrong. I don't, I also don't think that I don't think I would bet a lot of money on it, but I would bet a little money that Rudyard is wrong, that we don't see a thousand. I think that's crazy. I wouldn't think I would bet a lot of money on it, but I would bet a little money that Rudyard is wrong, that we don't see a thousand.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I think that's crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a handful more. But, you know, the two attempts on Donald Trump's life, the CEO guy, you know, and that's, you know, this attack on Nancy Mace, which... Nancy Mace, so she has another tweet. She got hurt. Did she actually get injured? She has a knee brace so she has another tweet she she got hurt did she actually get injured she's got she has a knee brace and she has to ice her arm she says not like serious but that's that's an injury you know what i mean yeah it's pretty wild that that that's crazy look and you know we
Starting point is 01:11:54 were just i was just arguing with the leftists about um about right wing versus left wing terrorism and violence and stuff the left there isn't there there is always uh an argument that that people make that say that the right is more violent than the left the right and there's always statistics and stuff that they that they use and i find the arguments not compelling the people that correlate the data i feel like they're all they're biased the the ramblings of a a racist who kills people because they're racist that's not really political that's racial that's racial hate isn't all like i don't feel like it's political the same way that um you know the person that attacked nancy mace is clearly political um and i i i mean i know that there
Starting point is 01:12:47 are there are people that are gonna say oh phil the data says the data says the data says but there are are extremely obvious and clear examples of leftist violence that are that are obviously leftist, all of the riots during the Summer of Love, when the guy attacked the the congressional baseball game and shot Steve Scalise, the the attacks on Rand Paul Rand Paul was walking down the street in D.C. The shooters that were just trying to kill Trump, they both, neither of them, I don't care what anyone says, they weren't Trump supporters. That's the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. I do got to read a super chat here real quick.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Sorry, did we get finished? Good, yeah. So Joseph says it's seven, not two. A woman killed her father. A woman killed herself and her kids. A woman killed her boyfriend because of the Trump election. Oh yeah, she killed her father, yeah. That's crazy, the guy that killed her father. A woman killed herself and her kids. A woman killed her boyfriend because of the Trump election. Oh, yeah, she killed her father, yeah. God, that's crazy, the guy that killed his family. What was that story?
Starting point is 01:13:54 So a guy killed his two kids and his wife. Over the election? Allegedly, that was the... Oh, actually, so it was more than seven. Yeah, hold on. Wow. I mean, that's... Still, Rudyard thinks in the next five months is high though that's a thousand people he was and and a lot of people responded to me saying dude january 3rd like the the congress
Starting point is 01:14:14 comes in january 6th they trump wins then the inauguration yeah january 21st trump signs no birthright citizenship begin the deportations people are going to lose their minds. 46-year-old Minnesota man, Anthony Nephew, killed his ex-wife, ex-partner, and two sons. But why? Before taking his own life. What was the reason? Hold on one second. Duluth, let's see.
Starting point is 01:14:41 No, it says the motive behind the killings is unclear. This is just, that's the AI, Brave's AI. Let's see. Let me see what they... Yeah, that woman in Seattle. The woman who killed her dad. Minnesota dad who ranted against Trump election,
Starting point is 01:14:55 gunned down wife, ex-girlfriend, and two kids. Over Trump election. Suicide. Man who ranted against Trump election, gunned down. Well... I'm still looking to see if I can find actual. This is the challenge, right? Because like, are we going to really play this game
Starting point is 01:15:08 where it's like a guy who ranted at one point and then later for different reasons did a thing? No, no, no. The idea that Rudyard had that he was expressing was that the political tensions in this country would get so great that we would see people dying because of it. So a woman killing her father, yes.
Starting point is 01:15:23 She said, quote, something about the election, she muttered. And it was on election day. I think she wanted the lights turned on or something. I can't remember what it was. Right, right. And then she snapped and just killed her dad. Insane. Yeah. So that one's like, I don't know. Man, I hope it's not the case. I hope Trump gets in. He won. It's a clean sweep. It's a popular mandate. I hope that he just gets the job done and they cry on the Internet. I do feel like the anti-Trump hysteria has really did peak, I think, in the last election, 2016, when Trump was elected. I feel like basically what's happened now up to this point is that people, even who didn't like Trump, they did realize that, okay, this guy, it turns out is not Mussolini. He's not actually Hitler. He's not literally Hitler. And so I don't know. I just think, sorry, Matt, I'm an allergy attack tonight. I just think that,
Starting point is 01:16:16 I think that people have wisened up to this by and large. The media have not, you know, you're still going to have the left wing people freaking out on the media. But I think that most Americans, even on the left, have have really wised up to the fact that Trump is not some terrifying figure. Yeah, they got a taste of what it was like to have Joe Biden as president, too, which was like, still, is he our president? It's so weird that that old, I mean, I guess for the first year, I get it. But even that was like people saw like what they do with Kamala Harris. They're like, here's your candidate this year, ladies and gentlemen. Like what? Where's the primary? A lot of people were just like, you know what? Donald Trump was elected. Donald Trump served as president. He didn't go crazy. He did. He said some stuff I didn't like, but it wasn't speaking for other people. His presidency was not the house of horrors that the left told us to expect. And so I think no matter what he does within reason in the next four years, I think people are just not going to freak out on that level. We're not going to see like the pink pussy hats and stuff like that. I was watching some old apprentice videos.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Those are pretty funny. Reminding myself who he is deep down in his heart. He's a great diplomat. That's the thing about him, his North Korean diplomacy, cooling tensions with North Korea, cooling tensions with Russia, cooling tensions with, I mean, the guy is just
Starting point is 01:17:32 a super charismatic master diplomat. And that is a great upgrade from slowly Joe Biden, who's just like falling over at the wheel, exhausted. I mean, good Lord. And there wasn't another better option. Well, and you mentioned, you know, The Apprentice and something that my husband is always saying is that people spent years before Trump got into politics.
Starting point is 01:17:57 They spent years being introduced to him through the television. And so there's a basic comfort level that a lot of Americans have that the media might not have, but a lot of Americans have known Trump for a long time, and they're cool with him. You know, anybody listening that, even if you don't have issues, if you do or don't have issues with Trump, go back and watch old clips of The Apprentice and Trump in the boardroom, because the dude is just, he's cool, man. He's not evil. He's actually not evil. It turns out he's actually pretty good. He might actually be neutral because he's like, look, sometimes the good people fail in business, and that's just the harsh reality. Donald Trump, you're saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:32 He's clearly lawful good. You think he's good? I think he's lawful neutral. I think he's lawful neutral. He strikes me as very articulate and cares a lot about the law and legal authority, but he's like— Yeah, he's like a paladin. I think he's paladin. He's a chaotic good instrument of divine retribution.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I don't know about that. Cause he'll chaotic. Good man. Nope. Like you can't, you can't tell what he's chaotic. He's chaotic. Good.
Starting point is 01:18:55 You can't tell what he's going to do. He, and he likes it that way. He uses that chaos to his advantage. That's why. Yeah. That's like Robin Hood. Robin Hood was chaotic.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Good. Uh, I think Robin, I'm not sure about that. He could be neutral good as well. Hey guys, I'm going to stop right there. Donald Trump is chaotic good. Here's a story from the Intelligencer. Here's a story from the Intelligencer. Jill Biden becomes involuntary model in Trump cologne ad. Involuntary.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Look at this image. It's Jill Biden looking at Trump and smiling and it says, a fragrance your enemies can't resist. I love that. And Trump is selling the Fight, Fight, Fight perfume and clone collection. She loves him. She really loves him. Look, people that spend time around Donald Trump can't help but be like, ah, that guy's all right.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Uber charisma. So you said lawful neutral? Yeah, I think he's lawful neutral. He's certainly not neutral when he does things like this. No. He's super charismatic. It's chaotic. guy's all right. Uber charisma. So you said lawful neutral? Is that what you said? Yeah, I think he's lawful neutral. He's certainly not neutral when he does things like this. No. He's super charismatic. It's chaotic good. He's chaotic good.
Starting point is 01:19:50 He loves to be loved. And Joe didn't show up. She needed somebody there to talk to. Whoa. Hey. The other guy's wife. DJT is down to party, man. Look, I mean, he's definitely, I think that the closest thing for Donald Trump is chaotic.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Good. You can never tell what he's going to do. He is. He genuinely wants good things in the, in the end. He wants good things for America. He's not, he doesn't want war.
Starting point is 01:20:13 He doesn't want to hurt people unless, you know, unless necessary, which is like, you know, Soleimani, he killed, but that was because,
Starting point is 01:20:20 you know, he had political justification for that. Whether you agree with it or not, the point is that he's not out there thinking, oh, I'm just going to go and start wars to start wars. He's not a Dick Cheney. He's not looking to start wars so he can profit off wars. He makes way more money by having positive business dealings
Starting point is 01:20:39 than he ever would by being at war. Look at this. I was thinking about buying something and giving it out for Christmas. I think it's a good idea. Oh, Trump cologne. I think it's a great idea. We got to at least get one. There's perfume, too.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Sample the smell. Look at the perfume. So he didn't put himself standing tall on it on the women's bottle. It just says, fight, fight, fight. But I'm like, dude, this is the best Christmas gift ever for your liberal family. You should have one on the table so everybody can get a whiff. It's $200, though, man. Who knows how to sell it?
Starting point is 01:21:10 Look at that. A golden Trump statue. You can smell like Donald Trump. Oh, he looks like Superman in that. Like Clark Kent. Limited edition numbered collectible cologne celebrates President Trump's historic victory. I got to get some. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Oh, it ships in March. Oh, man. Backorder. I wanted to get this for Christmas. They're probably trying to keep up with demand because as soon as he started advertising. You might be able to pull some strings and get it early.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Hey, they're probably not made yet. Yeah, that's true. I got it, man. I have so much gratitude for this guy. Now, as time goes on and the amount of sacrifice, personal sacrifice he's put himself through. And at one point I was like, it's all ego. But he really cares, man. And you remember when he got two scoops of ice cream but everybody else got one?
Starting point is 01:21:51 Think about the kind of sacrifice someone like him would have to make. Normally he'd go for four. But he chose to do only two scoops. The big ask. That was a funny thing where CNN made a segment where they were like, Trump gets two scoops. Everyone else gets one. I tell you what, if I was the president, I would get two as well.
Starting point is 01:22:07 And I bet you if someone said, hey, can I have another scoop? Donald Trump would say yes. I bet he wouldn't say no. He'd just be like, why are you asking me? I don't know. The ice cream's over there. And they did that thing where they're like,
Starting point is 01:22:17 his salt and pepper shakers were bigger than everyone else's. And I'm like, dude, I don't think Trump manages the salt and pepper shakers. These people are insane. Yeah, that's true. Like, anybody who's ever gotten catering, you're not going to be like, and make sure at my seat in the table I have the big—they're going to be like, what?
Starting point is 01:22:32 I don't have those. Don would have done that. No, he doesn't. So he makes sure I have the biggest and the best salt and pepper shaker. Someone else. That's so absurd. Someone else may have done that. Someone preparing to be like, give Don the big shakers.
Starting point is 01:22:43 He hires people and he's like, always make sure that I get the biggest and the best of everything. Make sure. I mean, he's definitely a showman. He's kind of less of a showman since he got into politics. And he's more about just getting it done. I don't know. When he started, he was very much a showman. Now I think he's just pissed.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And like really... He's been through hell. He said the J6 committee should be in jail. Yeah. And the Doge. he's all out of to give he's like good elon vivek take over we're slashing the i really hope that i really hope that that is a legit thing that they do a good job with that because i frankly am dubious that anyone has the guts to deal with our debt problem. I just don't know in a democracy if that is a solvable issue when the votes really depend on getting, you know, an older demographic to support you and to support your party. And I just feel like any real
Starting point is 01:23:38 solutions to the debt problem, it's going to have to involve cuts to Social Security, raising retirement age. I mean, won't it? Yeah. I mean, this is an extremely unpopular truth. If you have a significant amount of growth annually, you can manage the debt that we have. But I don't think that that fixes the problem. I think that there have to be cuts, or at the very least, there has to be a halt on spending while the country grows. So as long as whoever is in the position to make financial decisions for the country isn't talking, cutting or preventing the increases, you know, stopping the growth of the debt, stopping, you know, stopping the growth of the of the deficit.
Starting point is 01:24:32 If they're not talking about that, then they're not talking about fixing the problem right now. I just looked at the other day right now without changes. Social Security, Medicare go insolvent in 2033. That's eight years. So, I mean, if you want to actually fix the problem, because all of the fear-mongering that they're going to do about, hey, grandma's going to be thrown out of, she's not going to get the care she needs, and they're going to steal from grandma and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:25:01 All of that stuff doesn't matter, because it will be worse if the dollar becomes insolvent. It'll be worse for them. It'll be worse for everybody in the country, first of all. And it'll be the most bad for the people that are most vulnerable. The poor people, the people that are old, they will suffer more from that, from the dollar becoming insolvent,
Starting point is 01:25:23 than from anything else. And we see that. By the way, I'm not crying over the debt. I was having anolvent, than from anything else. And we see that. By the way, I'm not crying over the debt. I was having an allergy attack, ill-timed. No, she's crying over the debt. So you scratched your eye earlier. If there's anything to cry over when it comes to government stuff, it's the debt.
Starting point is 01:25:34 It is. I hope, though, I know Elon and Vivek, they talk a great game, but I don't know if anyone has it in them to really address the debt problem in the way that it has to be. But maybe so. I can. I know how to do it.
Starting point is 01:25:49 You've got to fix the energy. You've got to fix our fuel economy. Basically, right now, we're heavily reliant on carbon. We're too reliant. Graphene's cool. Graphene's carbon. Graphene is carbon. Graphene's –
Starting point is 01:26:00 Yeah, down with graphene. That's one material we can create, but what's happened is we've become plastic. Carbon, it's legit. Like, oil and coal are super legit, but we're heavily reliant on it, too heavily reliant for our economy to thrive. Geothermal. So we need hydrogen fuel. Nuclear. And they figured out geo is legit, but it's not fuel.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Nuclear is legit, but it's not fuel. Fuel is transportable. And hydrogen is transportable. So we can retrofit our methane pipes to transport hydrogen. And they figured out with this flash jewel heating where they electrify carbon and turn it into graphene. They give off hydrogen as a byproduct. We're going to change a centuries-long oil infrastructure any time soon. But that is the actual—Elon and Vivek are great at slowing the bleed.
Starting point is 01:26:43 They're slowing it down. But if we really want to push forward now that we've mitigated the detritus, we need a new fuel. And it's hydrogen. People are wondering what's up with Colonel Curtis' eye. I sprayed her with the Trump perfume when she walked in, and she's having a reaction to it. No, I told him I scratched my eye. And then I think, I don't know if it's allergies or it's just kind of making him.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Probably dehydration. Do you want water? I really am crying, though. I'll, I don't know if it's allergies or it's just kind of making me... Probably dehydration. Do you want water? I really am crying, though, over debt. I'll get you some water. Water helps me. I've got water here. You got it? Listen, the debt is something worth crying over.
Starting point is 01:27:14 The debt is something you should cry over. That's terrifying. I'm like the Indian in the pollution commercial. So once we make fuel cheap pollution commercial, like it was in favor of pollution? Now, remember remember you know the guy throws a litter out the window and then he looks and then a tear comes down I just love the notion there that it was like
Starting point is 01:27:32 for the average American the Native Americans cared substantially more about the land than you that was the message like you're insulting these people it's like you've stolen everything from them now look at what you're doing yeah I just feel bad feel bad about what you've done. Effective commercial.
Starting point is 01:27:47 I actually have a lot of hope and faith in the economy. Because the other thing that's going to happen is the United States is going to adopt crypto as part of its portfolio. And then the people without crypto are going to be destitute. This is a potential future. And then there will be an income equality war or some sort of civil conflict. Do you think that's going to happen? If we don't step on the gas, literally, and upgrade our fuel systems to integrate hydrogen,
Starting point is 01:28:09 it's going to be a big economic split with the people that had crypto and the people that didn't because the U.S. dollars insolve it. We can increase the value of our GDP by enhancing our fuel economy, by making new fuel sources that are cheaper to make. That will increase our GDP, which then makes $36 trillion actually only whatever, $10 trillion. It still says $36 trillion on paper, but everything's
Starting point is 01:28:34 three times cheaper, so that $36 trillion can buy you $120 trillion worth of stuff. Or we just drill more oil. We should be doing that. Because you can turn the oil into graphene. You can reuse this. Even if you don't use it for fuel, the carbon in the oil, it's still super valuable. Plastics, all this transportable.
Starting point is 01:28:51 And you can convert it into building materials. So, yeah, we can really step it up. I think it all relies on the fuel, man. I've heard they're making, and I don't know. I haven't done any kind of um actual digging but i've heard they've made some really significant um advances in in battery technology oh yeah solid state batteries were a big deal a couple years ago that they had figured out how to do that and that means they can be very very small and have tons of energy they figured out how to use nuclear waste
Starting point is 01:29:19 and battery diamond batteries oh yeah there was this thing they were i read about how it's like a tiny piece of radioactive like material or, and it just powers it forever. Yeah, I think it causes like a vibration in the lattice of the crystal of the diamond, and then it causes like this slow energy pulse because it's constantly—I think it might be piezoelectric because it's constantly like— They've been talking about that for a while where your cell phone would charge as you walked from the vibrations. And we talked about this before too with that flashlight that you would whack off. Oh yeah. You ever see those? It has the magnet
Starting point is 01:29:54 in the middle and so you go like this and it sends the magnet back and forth through the copper coil and then it charges the battery. You could get a really big one too if you wanted to probably. Or you could get two of them. You could definitely get two. Like a good time good time yeah it'd be really really fun and and i guys you know the people who make the the clips of the show are like guys we've already memed these we've already turned them into gifs it's just there's no point doing it again but everything's about you guys dude battery
Starting point is 01:30:18 tech is super um promising because i think there's like huge leaps constantly well because i mean if you can if you can get if you could like double or triple the current battery storage capability for batteries and stuff, then you really make nuclear, like, it makes nuclear almost a no-brainer. Because nuclear is super efficient. The actual nuclear waste, people think of like green sludge. But it's rods that, it's actual metal are that are encased in concrete and metal. And if I understand correctly, there's never been a any kind of problem with the nuclear waste material. It's not liquid. It's not like the it's not like the green sludge that made the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's easy to store and it's easy to transport there's
Starting point is 01:31:05 there was a there was a big car accident when they were transporting it and there was no damage to the vessel that the nuclear waste is is carried and again if people think of this of liquid that's going to ooze everywhere they're metal rods and they're encased in concrete and and metal so it's not like it isn't what people think it is. Nuclear is the way, man. Nuclear is the actual solution to our energy problems, especially if you get serious battery storage. Is Elon a proponent
Starting point is 01:31:34 of nuclear? He's pro-nuclear, yeah. He thinks that solar is the be-all, end-all. Solar? Yeah, he says solar. He thinks that, if I understand correctly, he thinks that eventually we'll be able to get the efficiency of solar panels to, like, quadruple. Who cares about solar panels? You point some mirrors at a vat of water, and it boils the water and spins a turbine.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Maybe. And then we're done. And the mirrors could be in orbit, and the vat could be on Earth. Like, orbital solar is really a lot more potential. But it's just easier to have an array of mirrors. So there was this viral post where someone flew over Vegas and they were like, yo, what is this?
Starting point is 01:32:08 And there's two towers with mirrors pointed at them. And all it is is a gigantic vat of, I think it's salt water. Salt, molten salt. It's just salt. It's just molten salt. In the thing?
Starting point is 01:32:16 Yeah, and it melts and it stays hot overnight. It boils water. Right, and then it boils the water and then the steam pressure as it's exiting is spinning a turbine which those things are massively uh productive energy wise but they're not transportable but damn they put out a lot of power we're gonna go to super chats so smash that like
Starting point is 01:32:35 button share the show with everyone you know become a member over at timcast.com let's jump over to your super chats my friends uh-oh youtube just froze on me oh no it always does this youtube is just anyway here we go we got schlip he says people should be more hesitant about throwing luigi under the bus the trial hasn't happened yet and we don't know for sure the potential of government railroading someone to look like they're doing something is impossible remember damien eccles you know i was thinking too when he said you're insulting the American intelligence and lived experience. Like, what if he's saying I didn't do it? Yeah. That's Lee Harvey Oswald.
Starting point is 01:33:08 What interpretation? I mean, I don't really think that's the case because he could have just screamed it wasn't me. Yeah, I'm a patsy. Yeah, I'm being set up. You know, that's what Lee Harvey Oswald said. He was like, I'm a patsy. What does he mean by it's an insult to the American intelligence? Like, what is what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:33:23 Yeah. Maybe the health care system? I guess. You're right. You're right. Don't take it for granted the guy's innocent until he's proven guilty. Okay, so J3TL4G says, The fact you think he's a leftist shows how out of touch you are. This show has become GOP slop and capable of understanding nuance you aren't tapped in.
Starting point is 01:33:40 You, sir, are the exact thing you described. Because we went into great detail about what it means to be left and right the other day, taking a holistic view of these terms. Notably, that the traditional left and right descriptions which arose in the French Revolution don't apply to American politics. It makes no sense to say that Dave Rubin and Tim Pool are far right. Like, what does that really even mean. But they've been calling Joe Rogan far right, and the dude supports universal basic income, which doesn't really make sense unless you realize that right and left are references to political tribes. So when we are speaking in terms of what matters to the American people, leftist refers to coded language and circles around particular ideologies and worldviews,
Starting point is 01:34:21 and right does similarly in the direction. For someone to say lived experience, we call that coded. That means it's words only recognizable or phrases typically recognizable to leftists. Hence, if you go to a regular person and ask them about their lived experience, they're going to say, what is that? But if you go to a leftist who's in the cult, they're going to be like, of course I can tell you about my lived experience. It's a specific thing referencing them. You, sir. Dead giveaway.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Dead giveaway. Yeah. You, sir, need to watch the show, perhaps, and you would be educated. But thank you for the super chat. I do appreciate it. All right. Do you think maybe, let me just say, maybe there's some trace of a legit critique in what maybe he's trying to say, which is that we're, do you think maybe he could say that we're shrugging off the concerns of,
Starting point is 01:35:07 of most Americans about the healthcare system? Yeah. Sort of. I think the issue is, um, I refer to, refer to this as a scaling problem. Uh,
Starting point is 01:35:18 the way I describe it, if you have a hundred self, if, if Apple gives out a hundred promotional phones to, to a hundred people and 1% break, what happens? One guy goes on X and says, my phone's broken. And they go, sucks for you, I guess. What if they give out 100 million phones and 1%, the same margin of failure? Now you have a million people on X screaming, my phone is broken. They're like, what is happening? So what we likely see with
Starting point is 01:35:42 instances like insurance is you're only ever going to hear about the instances where the insurance company screws people over. And they do. Don't get me wrong. But how many people go, oh, I can't believe it today. I went to the doctor and you're not going to believe this. My insurance covered everything, even things I didn't think they probably would cover. They covered it.
Starting point is 01:36:00 You know, I called and make sure everything was OK. They were very nice and polite. What a great company. Never happens. Because literally everyone in the country has to have health insurance. You will get 330 million people and the margin. So in the scaling problem, the larger a system, the lower tolerance there is for failure. And that's what we're looking at with all major systems in this country. So I think, you know, if you had 100 customers of a health
Starting point is 01:36:27 insurance provider and 10% got into an argument, no one would care. Like, I swear, you have 100 people and 10% failure rate. The other 90 are going to be like, we should probably, I hope you guys get that sorted. It seems like something must have been a hiccup. That's the extent to which they'll, you know, must be a hiccup. But if 10% of the country overnight couldn't get access to healthcare, it would be the apocalypse. People would be losing their minds. And that's big. And so, yes, I understand pre-existing conditions should and must be covered. Sorry, insurance companies. But there's a big problem there in how we handle this because we don't want government overreach, right? But then the insurance companies. But there's a big problem there in how we handle this because we don't want government overreach, right? But then the insurance companies would never cover someone
Starting point is 01:37:08 who's got a pre-existing condition. That person just goes without health care. We got problems. You have to figure it out. Maybe we don't do insurance. Maybe it's pay as you go. I don't know. All right, what have we got?
Starting point is 01:37:20 Britt Griffith, Mower Racing, says, getting ready for 2025 lawnmower racing season. Are you interested in rewrapping the mower with the updated design? The current wrap was a success for the 2024 season. I had great conversation with lots of people. Let's follow up on that. We are, of course, sponsoring Cody Dennison in this next year, and he's got flames on the front now.
Starting point is 01:37:38 And they said it was rooster wings, but sure. There's wings on the side and flames in the front. Phoenix wings. Ah, they're chickens. Wings of the phoenix. And I'm very excited to announce that my new skateboard graphic will be coming out in a couple of weeks. And this is the 28th Amendment. Have you showed that one yet?
Starting point is 01:37:56 I don't know if I've displayed it, but for those that don't know, the 28th Amendment, which I believe must be ratified, says, chickens, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed. And you laughing. But I think Arizona just passed a law where they said cities can no longer ban chickens. Oh, what are roosters? I think, yeah, like basically you can have roosters and chickens, you know, fight about it. The it is it is shockingly insane to me that there are many jurisdictions that outright say you can't have chickens. And it's like, look, I understand roosters
Starting point is 01:38:28 because they be yelling. Chickens? You know what I mean? Chickens, they just go buck, buck, buck. They mind their own business. They do stink. I was just laughing because we're overrun with them where I live. Really? It sounds like paradise. So out by us, when you're driving down
Starting point is 01:38:44 the road, chickens are literally running around. You can see them. I love it. We were driving and a chicken ran across the road. And then I had to say it. Why did that chicken cross the road? It's like that in Hawaii, too. There are wild chicken everywhere out there.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Oh, dude, it's amazing. It's great. Chickens are great. Because not only can you eat them, but you can also eat their eggs. They'll eat insects. I actually think chicken pad thai is one of the greatest accomplishments of man. It is not only the pre-young of the chicken, but the chicken itself mixed into it. So it's a particularly brutal—would you consider that to be very metal, Phil?
Starting point is 01:39:24 To eat its babies and itself? brutal. Would you consider that to be very metal, Phil? To eat its babies and itself? It is. When you eat yourself, there is a cannibal corpse record from late 80s or very early 90s called Eaten Back to Life, and the cover, the zombie is eating himself.
Starting point is 01:39:39 I mean, when we eat chicken potai, there's chicken and egg in it. Yeah. So we are taking their babies and their bodies and mashing it together. Oh, that's more like the follow-up to Eating Back to Life called Butchered at Birth, where there's zombies eating the babies. Is that for real? Yeah, Butchered at Birth. Great record. Great record.
Starting point is 01:40:01 There's that subreddit Nature is Metal. And it's just like. Oh, yeah. There's like the great, the golden eagle or whatever. It flies over and grabs the goat and then chucks him off the mountain. And you just watch the goat bounce. And then it goes down and eats it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:40:15 You ever see a goat climb a wall? Yes. What? Crazy. Goats are legit. That's crazy how they do that. They're extremely social animals, too. If you only have one goat, they'll be depressed and stuff.
Starting point is 01:40:27 You have to have multiple goats. You can't have just one goat. Are they like inbred? Because their eyes are all crazy looking. That's just what goat eyes look like. That's evolution, not inbreeding. There could be inbred goats, and I'm not sure that inbreeding has the same kind of negative effects with goats that it does with humans. But they're not like a result of...
Starting point is 01:40:44 No, their eyes are square. P square pupils are like that like that's evolution okay all right let's see what we got here we'll grab some super chats it just okay there we go oh man youtube's always screwing around that is so weird stone says i just want to say that the weird furries are the vocal minority in the fandom. Most of us are just chill dudes who like SWAT cats too much. Perhaps furries could be the topic of a culture war episode one day. Just get like three furries in here
Starting point is 01:41:12 to talk and defend their right. That would be hilarious. I will host that if you want. All right. We need some holiday episodes. Yeah. If there are any furries out there that want to be on the culture war to explain. They got to be wearing the full suit, right?
Starting point is 01:41:33 Yeah. And you have to be fully clothed. It has to be YouTube friendly, weirdos. All right. What do we got here? X Tin Man says, my theory is the drones are military and government, perhaps searching for something radiological, chemical, snuck in the country,
Starting point is 01:41:49 maybe a credible threat. Yeah, we didn't talk about that. Drones. Let's do that in the members only because they have pictures of UFOs. Like the government actually released images of weird vehicles they can't... Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Yeah, it's creepy. One looks like a jack. You ever play jacks where you put them on the ground yeah weird sweet yeah very crazy let's go what do we have here salty says i've got to say that it pisses me off that i'm expected to relate to neely just because he's black no i have more in common with penny we swore the same oath served in the same branch and aren't a menace to society isn't it insane that they're they're trying to scream to you that you have to have race as your commonality instead of the human experience and your your beliefs and your passions did you guys see that woman screaming white people stay out of our
Starting point is 01:42:38 neighborhoods or whatever yep it's like okay you're like i don't want to go in your neighborhood anyway i guess i mean that's like illegal if if you're like, I don't want to go in your neighborhood anyway, I guess. I mean, that's like illegal. If you're like, oh, white people, you can't live here, that's illegal. So, I mean, I don't know. It's just, it's silly to constantly say, oh, it's white people's fault that this guy was on the subway harassing people and scaring people. Wait, wait, wait. Was the arresting officer really named Fry? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Can someone Google that? Someone super chatted, anti-capitalist arrest at McDonald's by Officer Fry. F-R-Y-E. I don't believe it. You're joshing, aren't you? Officer Fry McDonald's. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:43:23 It'd be the new mcdonald's character no officer fry officer tyler fry is that it yeah that was the arresting officer apparently yeah tyler fry a rookie cop we live in a simulation department this is a simulation run by a seven year old tyler fry he's like well my my number has been called what if we're in a simulation run by Elon? And he made himself a character? He's playing it close to the vest. He's playing a video game.
Starting point is 01:43:50 He's like, I'm giving myself God mode. I'm making my character rich. Everybody knows when you play a video game in God mode, it's not fun. Yeah. He seems to be having fun, so he must have earned it. He's like, I'm starting with nothing. I'm starting in South Africa. He's like, I want to start the game with a billion dollars. With political aspirations, but he's not American, so he can't be president.
Starting point is 01:44:08 All right. Fungus Among Us says, Luigi's Manifesto reads like a fiction. He claims that he had basic CAD skills, but the Glock frame he printed, he didn't design. It's a well-known design by Chairman Wan. I don't believe he wrote it. Well, no, I think he is like, I didn't have any particular skills. Like, if you understand basic, like, some people don't even know what cat is okay so he downloaded a design and that was it i'm not even sure that it was so the the picture that i saw i'm not sure that that was that was
Starting point is 01:44:37 even um printed it looked like one of the old polymer 30s which were claiming it was printed yeah i mean that's that's what i hear as well but it looks like one of the the old polymer 30s which were claiming it was printed yeah i mean that's that's what i hear as well but it looks like one of the the old polymer 30s which was you could build it at home it was just a lower uh receiver which is not serialized so you could sell them and there's technically not a gun um and you would put it together at home but and it's made of the same it is polymer but it's not actually printed it's just that you bought it on on uh you know the open market jacob holly says my god every single subreddit is going nuts with the guy being caught they're calling for cleansing their enemies and ending all capitalists and calling for open revolution insane you know be funny if just like reddit is all caa bots just talking to each other
Starting point is 01:45:20 yeah look man that's the only real one don't call for revolution you're probably haven't run more than a hundred yards in your whole life and you're probably gonna die oh man that's why it's so funny like these these these leftists celebrating for it and i'm like okay there's basic math on average conservatives are going to have more knowledge of what they can eat outside and how to warm themselves than someone who lives in the city, and they're likely on well water. If society collapses, the urban individuals who rely on this big water infrastructure in their city, oh, they're done, because your water stops overnight. And then the people who live out in the middle of nowhere are going to be like,
Starting point is 01:46:03 pump's on, I don't know, we got a backup generator and the pump's been going, water stops overnight. And then the people who live out in the middle of nowhere are going to be like, pump's on, I don't know. We got a backup generator and the pump's been going. Water's fine. It's kind of like in Gone with the Wind when all the guys are jonesing for war and somebody reminds them, actually, you know, the North, like they have all the industry. They're going to have us beat. It's kind of like that. All these revolutionaries, these left-wing revolutionaries,
Starting point is 01:46:20 who think that they're going to fare really well in a fight to the death with conservatives. It's kind of insane when you—like, these people are just LARPing. It's live-action role-play. They bring fireworks. I watched a video of a guy lobbing fireworks at police because they do it all the time. And I'm just thinking to myself, like, what is the real point? Okay, these things can cause damage.
Starting point is 01:46:46 They can seriously hurt people, but it's like the lowest degree of explosive you could throw. So the question is, if they're going to throw explosives, why are they throwing fireworks? Because they don't really want to hurt anybody, but they want to have the explosion and simulate conflict, because they're bored. They're children playing a game of revolutionaries and cops and revolutionaries. Yep. It's like the Joker. If they caught the dog, they wouldn't know what to do with it. Right.
Starting point is 01:47:11 I mean, if they caught the taxi, a dog chasing a car, if he actually got it, he wouldn't know what to do with it. Right. It's true. They're not smart people. But you know what my prediction was? Did you guys see the video of the guy crashing the car into the dealership? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:27 That guy's got no kids. He doesn't? My bet. Oh. I mean, if they come out and say, actually, he did, I'd be like, wow. But I bet he has no kids. This guy, Luigi, no kids. People with families don't do this stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Yeah, you have to be optimistic if you have family. That's the only option. Unless you're like John Brown and you bring the kids with you. I guess so. That's what he was doing. I mean, that's something that we say all the time here. People that are happy and have something to live for don't engage in revolutionary activities. That's why the left finds the people that are upset and angry at society, and they fill their heads full of leftist mumbo jumbo.
Starting point is 01:48:02 This is interesting. Miss Richie Blackmore says, Luigi Mangione is from a family of super, a super elite family in Baltimore that owns entire healthcare facilities. There's far more to the story than mainstream narrative. Look up Brian Thompson in Insider Trading. Could it be that he was actually angry about like Brian Thompson stole money
Starting point is 01:48:21 or something from his family? Maybe. I think if this, here's the thing about the conspiracies. If any of this was true, he wouldn't have screamed, it's an insult to the American people and lived experience. He would have said, he stole from my family. I really strongly feel like, you know, it's just his head was filled with leftist garbage.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Yeah. Dude, on November 8th, the SEC filed insider trading against Brian Thompson. Really? Yeah, he's going to be investigated? That's interesting. But even still, insider trading has nothing to do with the way that the health care or health insurance stuff operates to the average person. So if he was in insider trading, if he was doing insider trading, that's bad in an abstract way, but it doesn't affect people getting care. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:49:16 I wonder if this guy saw that he was doing insider trading and was like, he's the problem. Had that state of mind, like he's just all about profit. I couldn't speak to that. I don't know. The conspiracies make too many leaves. This is the problem, had that state of mind, like he's just all about profit. I couldn't speak to that. I don't know that, like, the conspiracies make too many leaves. This is the problem. Are conspiracies real? Yes. Is this possibly one?
Starting point is 01:49:33 Sure. But if you're going to, in your mind, map out a pie graph of probabilities, crazy, unhinged dude who read garbled nonsense on the internet is much, much larger of the pie graph than anything else. Yeah. Retribution. The spark is less relevant than what bred that guy's state of mind. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:49:56 All right, let's go. The Y wing says leftist talking about how college graduates disproportionately voted for Harris. Turns out they also disproportionately shoot healthcare CEOs. Go figure. Ha ha. You know, yeah, we talked about a little bit. Millennials are plagued by credentialism, where they're like, my parents told me if I get a degree, it makes me better than you. And you're like, yeah, well, you can't get a job. You make no money. You're in debt
Starting point is 01:50:19 and you're a communist. So how's that working out for you? All right. SV Gatter says the guy 100% got caught intentionally because he could have easily disappeared. They had no idea who he was. It wanted the reason to be known. It. Or he was going to do it again. Maybe. There's some rumors that he actually had other plans. He had a new gun.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Something was going to happen tomorrow. He still had the fake IDs. Yeah. Yeah. There's a plan for something tomorrow. Apparently people were saying and then they caught him. They didn't know.
Starting point is 01:50:49 The police said that this guy wasn't even on their radar until someone, they spot him at the McDonald's. I feel like if he had, considering the fact that he had money,
Starting point is 01:50:59 if he really didn't want to get caught, he could have been on an airplane and on the way to hawaii before his face got spread all over the news that same day and not with a bunch of fake ideas yeah i agree i think that he was planning on doing something again if this is the guy all right well uh we we we got to do it we got to do it where's the um wait i think i just lost
Starting point is 01:51:22 the super chat row Oh, no. You'll find it. I'll find it. Let me keep looking. It's from BasedJew. Here he goes. I'm sorry. We have to do this, ladies and gentlemen, because it's a birthday request.
Starting point is 01:51:34 BasedJew says, it's my birthday. Ian, can we get a Roberto Jr. crow? All right. You know, I didn't want to do it because I'm like, that's going to be upsetting to a lot of people, but it is a birthday request, and I felt kind of bad. You only get one birthday a year. You know, and he super chatted in.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I felt like he deserved that birthday present. The strangled choke at the end. Yeah. Every night I heard that 4 a.m., dude. I know him well. That's why he died. Love you, Roberto Jr., whatever you had going on in there, man. He that at 4 a.m., dude. I know him well. That's why he died. Love you, Roberto Jr. Whatever you had going on in there, man.
Starting point is 01:52:07 He had a heart attack. Yeah. He had a bad heart. I remember when he first started learning to crow, he would collapse. Oh, really? Yeah, because he had a breathing issue. He pushed it to the limit, dude.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Is this an old chicken of yours? It was a rooster. It was the son of Roberto. Roberto was the first rooster. He's still at Roberto's chilling at New Chicken City. And now there's RB3. He's the son of Roberto. Roberto was the first Rooster. He's still in. Roberto was chilling at New Chicken City. And now there's RB3. He's the king. He's Roberto's grandson.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Oh, okay. Roberto Jr.'s kid. Yeah. Limbred bastard. Roberto Jr. His sister was his mother or something? No. No, was that one of the case?
Starting point is 01:52:40 No. Those were the first. I take it back, RJ. Yeah, no. Roberto banged his daughters and had other daughter grandchildren, his granddaughter daughters. Yeah, he zoosted out. Well, that's chickens. He zoosted out.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Indeed, he did. All right. Jimmy says, what are the chances Luigi gets rubbed out in a jail cell? Pretty good, I would say. Well, we know what happens in jails between these guys, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you mean killed. Oh Pretty good, I would say. Well, we know what happens in jails between these guys. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you mean killed. Oh. Well, I guess maybe.
Starting point is 01:53:09 I mean, I'm not really sure why. It's not, I mean, I haven't heard anything about him being a kid diddler, and that's what tends to get you, give you problems in jail. I don't know. They're going to, I don't know what's going to happen in this game. All right, let's go. Dr. Y says, Phil, UNH pays $8.50 a share dividend on 920.28 million shares for an annual shareholder payout of $7.5 billion. Holy crap.
Starting point is 01:53:36 I got to buy me some of that. I got to hear that. What was that about? UNH? Yeah. United Healthcare. That's the company. Yeah, $8.50 a share.
Starting point is 01:53:43 And shares are like 500 and something bucks. 600 bucks. It's down to $8.50 a share now? No, no. Noalthcare, that's the company. Yeah, $850 a share, and shares are like $500-something bucks. $600 bucks. It's down to $850 a share now? No, no. No, no, no, they pay. They pay a dividend of $850 a share. So they pay $850 per share that you own. If you buy like, you know, 10,000 shares, you'll get $85,000 in dividends or whatever. So the total, what he's talking about,
Starting point is 01:54:06 the total billions is how much the total dividend payout from the company is to all of their shareholders. So... All right, Kieran the Meat Man says, Tim, you're wrong. It's a super simple way to hire family members for a fake job way above market rate. Be a politician.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Hey! There we go. All right, Amalgamaniac gaming says brett cooper just had her last comment section video today and they're giving the show to her producer reagan the god king taking it another l i don't see it that way um everybody was spreading this rumor you know and they're like oh what's gonna happen what's gonna happen and i'm like guys it's really obvious brett cooper is a young conservative woman and she got married recently. So obviously contract negotiations are going to come in. And my, my assumption is that, and I could be totally wrong. Don't get me wrong. Uh, based on what you see, like they launched the show in the first place,
Starting point is 01:55:01 they own the show. Brett is the principal talent. She probably said, I want to work less and make more. And they were like, nope. And she's like, I am going to spend time with my family and I want to have a family. I just got married and be on my farm. And they were probably like, we need someone to host the show full time. And I think it's that simple. I think this is the pitfall of being a conservative company, hiring young female conservatives. They're going to want to go be women. You know what I mean? Like guys might be like, I'll work forever until my hands fall off.
Starting point is 01:55:30 But women are going to say I need family time. Guys are going to say that, too. Don't get me wrong, but women more so than guys. So that's my assumption. I don't know. But I don't actually know why anyone cares to be honest. It seemed amicable. Jeremy and Brett both made public statements about
Starting point is 01:55:45 the amicable finale finale her contract ended yeah I had a contract for fusion it ended whatever you know what I mean like of course everybody acts like everything's such a big deal it's like so much drama you know like Candace left when her contract ended too and everyone's like oh she's getting fired I'm like guys her contract is over you know what I mean like certainly that was not amicable you know they don't seem to get along. Candace and Ben want to debate and all that stuff. But I think Brett, it's what, three years, right? And she's probably like, I want more money and I want to work less.
Starting point is 01:56:14 I think that's really probably it. It's a big show. And they're probably like, yeah, we're not going to do it. We want someone who's going to work full time and host a show. And so looks like they got somebody already. All right, let's grab some more super chats. What is this here? Sovereign Fish says the tax code is designed to keep
Starting point is 01:56:28 the working class working. There is a glass ceiling around 2-3 million that is extremely hard to get past. Once you break through, it's easier to take advantage of loopholes and make more money. Indeed, this is correct. And then I hear according to Kanye, there's a diamond ceiling up there around, I don't know, 800 million, maybe it's 80, maybe
Starting point is 01:56:43 it's 8 billion. Is that what he said? He just couldn't get through that ceiling. Did he say that? He's insinuated that there's a level of wealth you get to where you've got to make some deals to get to the next level. He was unwilling. He's right, though. There's, um,
Starting point is 01:56:59 these levels aren't real. It's just that the amount of money, like, to get to the level of wealth, say like of Elon Musk, you need a massive corporation. Massive, massive, massive. And his wealth is just tied in stock of the various companies. I think Elon's stuck at that ceiling too. Elon's the richest man in the world. Maybe on paper, they like you to know that.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Things like the King of Jordan, the King of Saudi Arabia, these guys. In terms of like liquid, being liquid, I don't think, yeah, I don't think Elon is... Vladimir Putin is arguably the richest man in the world because he has the wealth of the entire nation of Russia that he hoards and keeps. And there's estimates of like $700 billion that he controls. I heard the Roshan family is worth
Starting point is 01:57:37 $330 trillion in like 2011. I wasn't able to confirm it because of course... That doesn't mean anything, dude, to be honest. The kingdom of Saudi be honest the kingdom of Saudi Arabia the king of Saudi Arabia owns Saudi Arabia that means that he owns all the oil reserves
Starting point is 01:57:50 in Saudi Arabia whoever like if it's not they have armies what was that? they have armies yeah like they are probably
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