Timcast IRL - Charlie Kirk Bullet Evidence Sparks CONSPIRACIES, Testimony Goes VIRAL w/ Jamie Kennedy

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

Tim, Phil, and Ian are joined by Jamie Kennedy to discuss more Tyler Robinson evidence dropping, Candace Owens blames Ben Shapiro over the Charlie Kirk Assassination, Charlie Kirk memes are getting out of control, and Tim Pool says powerlines tried invading his property.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ GET OUR MERCH - https://merch.timcast.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwN... Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Ian  @IanCrossland  (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Jamie Kennedy @JamieKennedy (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! Charlie Kirk Bullet Evidence Sparks CONSPIRACIES, Testimony Goes VIRAL | Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email [e-mail]

New testimony from the boyfriend lover of the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin. Images of the bullets. And they accidentally published the love letter or the confession letter, I guess. It's a pretty wild story and it's sparking wild conspiracies largely because, listen, let me just start by saying you're allowed to question official narratives, whatever you want. We need positive evidence in order to pursue many of these conspiracy theories. We don't have strong alternate theories.

But there are people desperate on people. pushing fringe, unhinged conspiracies. In fact, many of these people are intentionally lying. They're using a technique called assumptive manipulation or assumptive reasoning, where you provide two pieces of information that seem to fit together to trick the person listening into assuming they are part of the same story. A simple example would be like, if you shouted out something, you know, someone stole my wallet, and then immediately go, it's Ian. And then the assumption is, even though I never said he did it, you want people to assume he's the guy who did it. And I said, no, no, no, no, I was just pointing to him because he was standing there.

This is the game they're playing, and I'm not having any of it. So we've got major viral posts. We've got Ben Shapiro, I guess, now being accused of orchestrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk. It's all fake. And it's largely because ad rates are low. Political interest is at a low point. Advertisers don't want to buy. So what are these people doing?

Lying and grifting any way they can to make a quick buck. We're going to talk about that because that's the best. Big, big news, big news. Donald Trump switched planes. And like I saw this, he didn't want to fly in that Katari plane for some reason, which is very strange, considering, you remember when we were like

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conversation before the show started. This happens all the time. Like we should just literally press play as soon as we get in the studio. I know. I didn't want to talk too much because I want to save it for the cameras. Yeah, we got the boys hanging out. Hi everybody. Good to be here. Hey Phil. What's up everybody? Phil here? How you doing? Yeah, let's get into this man. Let's get into it. I had to keep my mouth shut in the pre-show. Ian, Ian, he was like that meme of the guy with the vein bursting. Yes, yes. All right, here we go.

We got a bunch of stories. We're going to rip through them so we can just get in the whole nitty-gritty of this. Lance Twiggs reveals Tyler Robinson confessed to Charlie Kirk's murder after sneaking back to their love nest. So we're getting all this testimony, and oops, it's really doing not so good for these conspirators, we call them. Take a look at this.

Redacted letter from Tyler Robinson and a trans lover accidentally shown in court, which it says if you are reading, handwriting is better than mine, but still bad. If you are reading this, per my text, then I am so sorry, I left the house this morning on a mission and set an auto text. I am likely dead or facing a lengthy prison sentence. I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I took it. I don't know if I will slash have succeeded, but I had hoped to make it home to you. I wish we could have lived in, and then I guess they weren't supposed to show that, which is crazy. We also have this.

Prosecutors reveal trans sex joke engraved on the bullets. We're learning that Lance Twigs, the lover, was granted immunity for testifying. And it's bad bad news for the conspiracy theorists who now are, I guess, accusing Ben Shapiro. They're saying Ben Shapiro did it? Like, there might be a conspiracy of people encouraging this guy to go do it. There might be an underground network. I don't know that I've seen any evidence of that yet. So I haven't allocated much brain power to it.

Yeah, I mean, it's worth noting that, like, look, all the evidence that we've seen points to Tyler. They're everything that people say is some kind of contradictory evidence isn't actually evidence. It's their, they're saying this is weird or this is something that doesn't make sense or what have you. But it's all conjecture and it's not actually any evidence. You know it bothers me the most, though. The conspiracy theorists, again, like, I actually, I'm a big fan of conspiracy theories. I think we learned the conspiracy theorists of the past several years trying to be right about everything. But not, I'm being hyperbolic.

Obviously, some things were not true. In this instance, I think, by all means, you can ask any question, you can challenge any narrative that's always fantastic. But you need positive evidence, right? Why did they not just come out and go, Robinson works for Israel? Like, you can have your Israel conspiracy theory and whatever you want, and then just say, you know, he works for Israel. Because then it fits. But to be like, no, he's a patsy, they put him on the roof. It's like, huh?

It's just... I don't... Do you realize who you booked today? I mean, I'm kind of on the board of conspiracy tarts. Oh, good. So... Yeah, but we like a lot of them. But here's the deal.

Not please bring you down to your... I don't know where we stand with this. So take me through this because... So are we going with the official narrative? Because I haven't been following it since it happened. Lance did it and acted alone. Tyler Robinson is the... I mean, Tyler.

Excuse me. No, I don't know. I don't believe that Tyler Robinson acted alone. Okay, so going up the steps, as your man told me here, the limp was because of the gun. The explanation that they gave is that he's got the gun down his pant leg. And so he's limping because he can't bend his knee. Is the official narrative that he did it alone?

I don't know, actually, because the FBI was investigating Discord chats as well as there was a big story of transatl, individuals posting online for presuming four knowledge of Charlie's assassination one shooter or not one shoot yes okay so that's the official narrative correct yeah so just to be careful acting alone is different from he pulled the trigger he could have gotten help to get there there were several vehicles in front of his house it like the week prior we don't know who was helping him plan this if anybody but for the person for Charlie getting shot it was the story is Tyler Robinson on the

roof pull that gun pulled the trigger shot Charlie and then fled Okay. So I saw some videos this week, but I don't know. It might have been fringe videos that were ever saying some of the evidence wasn't totally adding up. What evidence? I don't know. I don't remember the video. But I just remember it wasn't, it didn't seem like it was a clean case. Am I wrong to say that? Yeah, yeah. This is that. So by all means you can claim the deep state orchestrated this case and planted evidence. But as far as that goes, they did it airtight. Yeah, this seems really clear. So the evidence is like it's open and closed, you know. It's just a matter of were there people behind the scenes. And all those, if they were chatting on Discord, and they tried to delete it,

dude, Discord can still get all that metadata and reproduce the chats and the texts. And the FBI's probably already got it. So what was his reasoning for murdering him? Because Charlie Kirk was a hateful man because he's a Christian that believed that things like the LGBT ideology was bad. He believed that trans people were not, I guess, kosher, if you want to call it. And he was spreading hate is what the argument was made. So, yeah. There you go.

Well, I mean, he's like he's a Christian, so that's bad. You can get a little bit more complicated than that. But didn't he argue with everyone and give everyone when you talk to them? And he won. Yeah, he was a dick. Didn't he talk with LGBTQ and different races. He would be a jerk. I mean, he'd be a prick sometimes, but not like, intention.

Like everyone's going to be like, get out of my face. Get out of here. And, you know, you'd be like, oh, okay, he was mad. But, like, he's just a guy. He was just a guy. But he was doing God's work. He was he was 14. Right cultural figure.

Turning Point was the most powerful political organization. It had overtaken the RNC. And, you know, dare I say, turning point is, you know, we had two insurgencies. You had the Bernie Sanders insurgency in the Democratic Party, and you had the Trump insurgency. The DSA represents the left populist insurgency into the Democratic Party,

and Charlie Kirk was under the right, which was unstoppable. The machine state did not want that to be the case. So what we're seeing now, and I'm going to go and say every day I believe I'm more and more correct about this Tucker Carlson referencing starting a third party okay guys like I've been talking about this for a long time

they want to go back to the era of the Obama Romney style elections they don't want insurgent populists they want the left and the right to be controlled you know opposition against each other and I think that's where we're headed I think that's that's the issue and I think Charlie Kirk uh he he was the most so if you're if you're Tyler Robinson

we can look at it two ways you can look at it from the conspiracy perspective, which is he was killed for some higher purpose, some nefarious purpose from some powerful organization. And that is, Charlie is the leader of the right insurgency against the establishment. If you look at it from the more mainstream narrative of why would Tyler Robinson kill him for literally the same reason from a different perspective, Charlie was leading the quote-unquote fascists. He was making Trump win. No, look, I'm not, I'm a conspiracy theorist on a lot of things. This one, it was,

I wasn't, I don't know what the truth is, but I'm listening to you guys, because I haven't been following it since the assassination. You know, but they were saying that it wasn't so clean cut, but you're saying it seems pretty clean cut. I mean, the better argument for conspiracy is that it's an orgy of evidence. Okay. You know, you're familiar with Minority Report? Of course.

I'm not actually. Colin Farrell walks in. Pre-prime. That I know, but I don't know the evidence. So the scene is they go into a room. You're committing a crime right now in your mind. You don't even know that, change, though. So in Minority Report, it's Tom Cruise, and he gets, there's a precognition that he's going to murder a man.

And Tom Cruise is like, I would not do this. His child went missing years ago. And so when he gets to this, he finds the apartment, the hotel room where everything went down. And he's like, I need to know why this happened. And when he gets there, he finds all these photos of his son. And then he sees a man standing there. And he's like about to cry. And then he's like, they were right.

I am going to kill you because he believes the man who kidnapped and murdered his son. But then he remembers what one of the precog says or something, and then he doesn't do it. When the police come into the scene and see everything that happened, they're like, oh, this is why Tom, his character wants to murder the guy. And Colin Farrell, who's the independent outside detective, goes, no way, this is fake. It's an orgy of evidence. He's like, murder, murder, like, the pedophile who killed this kid is not going to scatter. all the pictures for him to find. Like, this is a setup.

So I would say if you want to get conspiratorial, the bigger conspiracy is not that there was exploding mics or man hiding in the bushes. It's that the bullets got engraving. There's a letter. He was on the roof. He had the gun. It lines up perfectly. Except for Occam's Razor.

Yeah, it's a whack-a-loon lefty online Reddeter guy with a trans girlfriend who hates Charlie. Charlie's leading the charge for the right populists. They say every day kill Republicans and things like that. And so this dude decided to go and get violent. It's surprising to me that people have these conspiracies, considering we watch the left get violent nonstop for a decade, threatening to murder conservatives, and they've literally done it to like Aaron Danielson in Portland

when a lefty with a BLM tattoo walked up and shot him twice in the chest for no reason. So then they're like, I don't believe this guy would do. It's like, what do you mean? It's been literally happening nonstop. Right. And it is a correlation with like the Kennedy, I don't know why I just think a lot about the Kennedy assassination. Well, Kennedy says, and he just has a lot of smoke around it.

Yeah, and it seems obvious the guy was yelling. Are we still believing the official narrative? I don't. Well, I interviewed Ron Paul, and he was like the CIA did it. I asked RFK Jr. Ron Paul said that? Oh, yeah, and so did RFK. Live on TV.

He said CIA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I asked the FBI Jr. And he was like, yeah, he didn't say the yes, he said, yeah, he did it. Some people think it was that Oswald was deeply connected to the communists and the Russians and that Lyndon Johnson covered it up because he didn't want to go to war with Russia. So he's like, we just can't tell anybody any of this. Look, I don't believe nothing, but listen, you guys are made.

But one of the things I did here, because I wasn't following it once this happened, he's the gun and how do you get the gun? And he said it very simply. Before the show, he's like, listen, it's a two-piece gun. You put it together. It's not hard. He said it. And he's a Marine.

So, you know what I mean? No, I listened to Marines. Do you know what I'm saying? That gun in particular? Yeah. That's the big thing for the normal. It's just a stock in a barrel. When I was a stock in an barrel.

When I was a, when I was. I went to Arizona and, you know, what these people do, let me just say this, because we're going into the other parts of the story, these evil scumbag manipulative liars, is they know that it's very difficult for us to reveal security information as to who our personnel are, they're training, the things they're doing, the things are talking about, and they're exploiting that, the safety of us and our families to try and get clicks and create conspiracies. And, you know, Clint Russell is doing that. Candice, of course, did that. Candice claimed my brother tried to murder me because she is an evil witch. But I will just say this, one of my security guys, the moment, like, right after it happened, he was like, the moment I saw the video, I said 30 out six. And this is a guy who was a seal team sniper. And he was like, oh, yeah, yeah. From like the angle and the sound, I was like, that's a 30 out six, no doubt.

And he was like, I wish my wife was recording me when I said it. That's how sure I was. And so I was like, oh, wow. And this was like a week or two after it happened. He was like, man. So this guy, a seal team sniper that works with us was outright like, yep. that's what it is. I'm like, okay. Then I go online and there's a much people like, I'm a Marine instructor, I'm a, you know, gunsmith or whatever, it's not possible.

And I'm just like, they've already given up that argument. They used to argue it was impossible. Now they're arguing it's improbable. Now they're saying, well, it's really unlikely that therefore, and it's like, okay, just stop. Arguing what's improbable? That the argument they make is a 30 out six is so large it would have ripped through Charlie's neck. But the gun is a soft, or the bullets were soft tipped. The bullet soft tip. So they expand inside the body.

And we don't know the load of the cartridge was, it doesn't even matter. The point is, is it possible? Yeah. Like, a guy wins the lottery. Do we go, that's not possible. There's no way he won. It's one in 600 million. How can you possibly do it?

No, we go, oh, wow, someone won a lottery, right? So the conspiracy theories have largely abandoned that argument are now saying, you know, they're like, well, it's just very unlikely. So that's why we don't believe it. It's like, oh, okay, well, unlikely. It's still possible. Thank you. have a nice day yeah especially in war like if something happens in a war don't sit

around think about how unlikely it is that the enemy was shelling you like better take evasive action when the shells at the ground and did this this kid's father am I wrong to say did he turn him in yep family turned him in and it was he also in the military or no I don't know did he was he raised was there something I know but the family turned him in a friend who was like an ex-cop or something so he knew about guns like I don't know about that so we've got images of bullet fragmentation right here here's the bullet

you can see that it is deformed yeah quite a bit that's so that means it blew up so my first there was a hollow point or a soft tip soft tip soft tip and it hit his spine hit his vertebrae and likely

you know tilted down and splattered or something yeah bullets do weird things when they enter like you know a medium like flesh right like they don't if you if it's a A full metal jacket, which means the copper jacket is all the way to the front. It has more of a chance of going all the way through, but a soft point is designed to deform. That picture that we just saw, basically, you were looking at mostly copper.

The lead is all gone into, you know, got shredded and stuff. But there's a guy that was a green beret that got shot with a 762 by 54R, which is about the same size as a 30 out 6. It entered in the back of his shoulder Of just above his plate Went down and came out his hip Bullets do weird things Yeah Let's just do weird things when they hit when they hit bodies

I want to I want to jump to this next story Which is where the drama is all going We have this clip from Ben Shapir I want to play first and foremost The story is that Ben is being accused Of orchestrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk And what we're going to hear next is no No, I never said that

But the insinuation is very clear When you claim Charlie was betrayed by Ben Shapiro and that it's very strange that Charlie's security would be talking with Ben's security, but here's the clip first. Remember where I was when all this was happening. I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody. And I got the news that Charlie had been shot and my security was on the phone with Charlie's

security because nobody knew what the hell was going on while Charlie was still in the back of the car and we were sort of getting updates along the way. At 2.40 p.m. So I remember. What did Ben just say? His security was getting updates from Charlie's security while he was selling the back of the car, getting updates along the way. What does that mean? Sort of getting updates even.

What does that mean? Maybe they got a text from someone. A guy texted a guy. What do you think that means? His security was talking to Charlie's security. It seems like they were downloading as they were getting information. How do you feel about it? How do I feel about it?

I would think that if they're security. As CEO, chairman of the board of conspirators, do you think anything else? I mean, do you have any thoughts? If you're in that world, it's a very close-knit world, so something crazy happened to a huge leader, and they go, dude, listen to, they hear it, they go, if you know a guy on that detail, no, I don't think that's odd, because you're getting inside information

because that's what you talk to those people. It's like an NFL player hearing that someone was traded. Right. Candice Owens posted breaking news. Ben Shapiro just confessed on his show that while Charlie was being transported to the hospital and bleeding out to death, his security was on the phone with Charlie's security

receiving updates. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. Someone explained to me why during the minutes, while Charlie was dying in the backseat of a car, Charlie's security team was providing updates to Ben's team rather than focusing entirely on saving Charlie Kirk's life

and finding the killer. I will remind you that all that Brian Harpole, I'm going to pause real quick and just mention, who did security personally for Candace, and she knows this. I won't get into finer details, but yep. Anyway, one of the security members who was in that, and is suing her, by the way,

was in the car under the hospitals, is currently suing me and using Ben Shapiro's lawyer who has sued me relentlessly on Ben's behalf for the last three years. Ben Shapiro hated Charlie. Everyone knew that. So why the hell was this demon receiving updates in the mere minutes after Charlie was hit and rude to the hospital? All caps. Who on Charlie's security team betrayed him in this way? Everything Ben did following the assassination made my alarm bells go off. I have told you guys that there is something about the daily wire and blah, blah, but we get it. What did Colvitt mean when he told me it was supposed to be you? Nothing because he probably never said that. That's a lie. why did turning point betray Charlie so quickly? Why didn't Ben mention by having Ben

Open Amfest? I clocked that Ben was too invested in this. Ben Shapiro is satanic. Everything in my soul tells me he worshiped Satan. Literally look at his demeanor in this clip. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, let me answer these questions for it. It's very, very easy. The reason why I asked you what you thought about it first, because you didn't see what Candace had said, so hearing what Ben said. Our team also was being informed on what was going on with uh with uh with uh charley kirk afterwards and there's a there's a bunch of reasons why uh we're

friends with charlie and his team so our the people on our team who are like literally talk to charlie's team all the time immediately we're calling them our security company personally knows they're uh they're security company we i'm not i could be wrong about this because i don't know exactly which companies they hire but there's one big company that is security for all of the prominent right wing personalities and i forgot the name of this company but uh someone came to me and they said hey, this company that does, you know, all these conservatives, they're asking if we want to, you know, work with them because they'll do like a package rate.

And I'm like, we like our security guys. Like we, our security company, we've worked with. And we like our guys. I'm not going to, you know, like, they're our friends. We hang out, we get dinner together. Like, it's not just like there's a guy hiding behind you in a suit. It's like, no, they're security. It's what they do.

They got armor. They're strapped. They got medical capabilities. So immediately after these things are going on, everyone in the security world, particular in this place, are getting updates. More importantly, Ben, did not say that the four guys tending to Charlie stopped what they were doing and called me on the phone.

This is the game that they are playing. It's called a substantive manipulation or a substantive reasoning. The goal is you provide. So look what you said. She called it confessing. That creates the insinuation that Ben is admitting to doing something wrong. I knew it. I knew and I knew it is a manipulation to be like something is going wrong. Charlie was betrayed. Okay, I'm going to tell you guys what likely happen. After Charlie gets shot, there's probably 15 security guys. Four of them picked up Charlie, brought in the car, one was holding pressure on his neck. One of them, maybe not even in the car, relays information to their logistics team at HQ. Because you don't just have four guards and nothing else. Security companies have a headquarters with an office where people sit at desks and

coordinate information, call hospitals, plan insurance payments, or reach out to insurance for payments. So when this happens, one of the first things the immediate security does is tend to Charlie. The guys on the team who can't do anything else immediately call 911. They then call their logistics or get on their radio and say, Charlie's been hit, we're moving now, and they give updates via radio or phone. They leave the phone on and talk to their logistics team. The logistics of that security tells other guards who are on detail. If this company had other people, and Harpole has done this 4K,

Candice too. If there are other prominent conservatives with security, they are going to flag it to every single guard. Charlie Kirk's been hit. He took a bullet to the neck. He's currently stable in the back of the car on the way to the hospital. Be on high alert. Everybody with security companies worth their salt got that information. So why is Ben's security team talking to Charlie's security team? One, it may have actually been the same company, meaning his team is in reference to the guards that he has who got updates from the logistics of their own company telling them Hey, Ben could be in danger. Someone just got Charlie.

I'd be willing to bet, I don't know what Ben's talked about this, but I'd be willing to bet a security was like, get inside now. Of course. So our team is a private company that we're not using any of the big guys, but our company are friends with all of these guys and direct communication with them. And I will stress this. The reason why I know that Brian Harple provided security to Candace is because our security company knows all those guys.

there's very few people in security. It's a small world. I have three comments. Yes. A, let's go as a lay person, just as a person, I was literally eating my eggs. I saw the horrific video, and my phone literally blew up as it was opening,

just by people going, did you see this? Did you see this? Okay? That's just number one. Number two is if I was shooting something at Universal, and there was some type of incident, I do 100% agree. Warner Brothers would get a call, Paramount will get a call Sony.

There's some crazy shit over here at Universal. Just be on alert. Netflix would get a call. Every studio will get a call. That's just... And it would be a specific call. Yes. So if you took a...

Let's say a crazy guy ran up and whacked you with a club. They would say a man looking to be in his 30s wearing a trench coat, just hit Jamie with a club in the back of the head. Because they're trying to tell them what's a protect for. Yeah. So it's a small system. So that doesn't seem odd to me at all.

It's a small world security. of many things, like an event, whatever. Let's go, though. I just remember something, dude. Tell me about the old man... Who yelled out, I did it, I did it. What was that? That is, I'm not trying to be conspiracy.

I'm not saying anything. What was that? That's weird as fuck. So apparently that guy was a pedo or something. That's what was posted on the internet. I'll be very careful about allegations that are not confirmed. But he had some weird charge was banned from the... He got arrested for having images of underage kids.

from his phone. He had been banned from the property for making bomb threats they've alleged, I guess, and he was an anti-kirk guy. The argument is that he did that to help the killer escape. Okay. He was... Okay. So... So it diverted attention from security.

Okay. And people were telling you right after it happened, like personalities like some dude in the crowd jumped up and shot him and then screamed I did it. Not to push back or anything. I'm just... Let's go back here. So you heard the term crisis actors? Yes. Do you believe those are true? Um... Well, I, I, 100.

20%, 602. 62%. Yeah, yeah. There is video, could be AI, pictures of that guy at other weird events. Because I'll put it like this. I don't like the term crisis actor because I believe that's a red herring

intended to manipulate what's actually going on. What people will do is they'll find images of people who look similar and then claim to the same person. True. The goal of which I believe is to stop actual populist investigation.

So if you have 100,000 people interested in digging into what happened with Charlie Kirk and you don't want them to find out, you've got to throw red herrings out there. So they all run the wrong direction. That's why I'm careful on. So there are individuals who are like,

we've seen this before where law enforcement or some kind of agitator shows up to a protest and starts fights and violence intentionally and we don't know who they are where they come from. They may be left, They may be right. They may be government. They may be CIA. We don't know.

But there's a video, I think, during the BLM rights, where a guy, there's like a protest in the street. And a guy in all black walks up out of nowhere with a hammer, hot smashing windows, and that just leaves. And it's like, okay, that dude's not a protester. So what is that? And that's not a crisis actor. So what is this? What are these, what are these, like, fake people? Look, you're saying if something real is happening and they want to, they put some stuff in their chaos to keep everything.

Craig. You want people to go the wrong direction. And if other people like on, you know, influencers put some chaos in there, they'll happily use that chaos and make sure you look the other way too. I don't think it's weird at all the security teams would talk. Because you also have security. She has security. Everyone has security. And in this world. There's not a whole lot that I can say because, you know, the obvious thing is any reasonable person knows.

Security is communicating with all the security all the time. They're friends. A lot of these guys serve together. There's not that many dudes who do like international wet work type stuff and then come back and do what they call it EP executive protection I want to say just the same thing for for you guys in my world it'll be called a set cop There's just cops that they get the close job of being a set cop So something happens on one set over here on Sweetser and you're shooting in the radio Yeah, they would be on the radio yo something weird happened on Sweetser that's the set cop so it's the same type of thing Here's what Clint Russell responded to Candace with for those that haven't filed us closely Charlie Kirk was placed in the vehicle

Clinton under a minute. The car was less than 10, likely less than five. So within five or ten minutes, Shapiro was getting real-time updates from Charlie Kirk's security, and that was relayed to Shapiro when they should have been working tirelessly to save his life. What Clint is doing here is called us Assumptive manipulation. First, we've never concluded, nor did Ben say that he was, his team was on the phone with the guys in the car. So when he says they should have been working to save his life, the purpose of that sentence is to, in your mind, create an image of Charlie of Charlie's secured him in the car, not rendering aid, and instead calling Ben Shapiro,

which no one said he wants you to assume that. Shapiro was not Charlie Kirk's friend. I mean, that's just absolutely not true. I'm not going to tell the guys, you know, I say Charlie Kirk and I were friends. We didn't play pool together or anything like that, but I think he'd be offended if I said he wasn't my friend. You know, but like I'd see him periodically.

I'd text them, you know, rarely, but I consider him a friend. Charlie Kirk did not work for Daily Wire, which is true, while the rest of the world was just learning about the shot being fired. somehow, Shapiro's a direct line of the security team which just failed to secure their protectee. This is weird beyond belief and I hope everyone will set their by side and really think about how this was even possible so disturbing. Clint is not stupid. We've known him for a long time and Clint has gone down a very dark path recently and I assume it's out of desperation for attention. Clint knows full well that security teams communicate with other security teams.

He knows everything you just described how a set cop is going to radio, hey guys, here's what just happened to logistics. Why is he trying to make people assume that Charlie Kirk's security wasn't rendering aid and instead run the phone with Ben Shapiro's team? Yeah. Instead of every, I'm going to put it like this, everybody's got a guy in a chair. You know, you know, everybody's got a radio guy. So the most important thing in any security and any law enforcement, any military's communications. So the first thing you're going to see is security guards render aid. The second thing you're going to see is they're going to call emergency services. The third thing, they're going to relay to their head office, our

Our client just got shot. The logistics team is then going to put out an alert to their contractors, affiliates, and their friends. Guys, this is what just happened. Here are the updates. Now I'm going to say this to Clint, because Clint, I believe, is a, I believe Clint has become very evil. He's doing another manipulative thing. I'll just pull up his tweets, actually. I'll pull up my tweets.

And I'm going to break down the manipulation that he's trying to play to. You know, like, what does he think, what kind of image is. is you trying to put in people's head about what like rendering aid is. The guy got shot in the neck. You put, you apply pressure and you try to stop the bleeding. And like, you get him to the hospital where they can do proper care.

There's only so much you can do if someone shot one time in the neck. You put, you put a bandage on it. You can't throw a tourniquet on a neck. So you throw a bandage on there and you try and apply pressure and you try and do your best to keep the blood that's, the blood that's left inside of them inside of them. Then you get,

They're not going to have, like, you know, plasma or they're not going to give them an IV of blood in the car on the way. It's not like it's an ambulance. So I'm going to show you what Clint responded with his. Charles at the hospital within 10 minutes of getting hit. I flat out, don't believe you. You posted it at a pulse an hour later. So not while en route to the hospital, not a chance. And since you're calling me fake, you can prove me wrong.

I said, Charlie's team isn't just four people. They have logistics and you know it. My team was in communication with them as well. You're also full of it. He says, so your claim is that you're receiving updates within 10 minutes of the attack, but not from the SUV. Someone on a security team that was not with Charlie was able to update you on his condition while en route to the hospital. You can't understand why people find that weird. You see that last sentence, bro, if you think it's weird that a logistics for a major security company relays to other security companies, friends and affiliates, your client may be in danger.

Here are the updates that are going on. That's completely normal. Bro, I'm going to be honest, if my security company did not have the ability to tell me what it just happened, I would fire them in two seconds. If they went to me and said, we honestly have no idea what's going on. And I'll be like, guys, this is what we pay you for. Security is not just standing in front of me. It's making sure that the death threats, the swattings, and anything high profile is on our radar. In order to secure us, they need to know, is this multi-person.

Is this, are there other incidents happening elsewhere? So it is, I will say this. Our company, and every other company probably is a courtesy or informing each other, saying, look, it's really simple. The guy who runs a security knows person. personally Charlie's guy and and talks to him regularly and I guarantee it's as simple as after it goes down what's going on and they say here that here are the details the presumption as they said your client is probably safe do you know where they are

we get a call we immediately we're talking to our security when this is going down what's happening what do you know and so what what Clint does is yes indeed I posted I'm hearing that Charlie is stable because I am getting information from my team and what I understand to be in hindsight 2020 after Charlie was shot and they applied pressure he was not immediately dead or the presumption was they did not know that he had brain death a spinal injury or anything like that he had a pulse and they were holding it so that's called critical but stable meaning he wasn't actively bleeding out and dying now I don't know exactly what happens like at the hospital we only have stories after the fact but yes later on at that point all I know is what

they were laid to me. And then I said, can I report this? And they said, yes. And I said, I hope this is right. And now because of this, it's the only thing Clint has to latch onto. He says, nope, I think you are either lying or were lied to. I do not believe you had an updated as condition from the SUV while driving 100 miles an hour to the hospital and also trying to save his life. First, Alex Stein called me within 30 seconds of it happening. Literally the moment he got shot, Alex called me on the phone and says, Charlie just got shot. And I said, I'll call you back. And I hung up and I went on X and I saw the video immediately. The next call I'm on with is our security company

because my wife and I were driving to, we were going to get lunch. So the whole way they were like, what's going on? What do we do? What's happening? And I was on the phone endlessly with a bunch of different people.

I just think it's insane that people like Clint are playing this game. But it's because, look, Candice got 8 million views. She got 8.4 million views on that post accusing Ben Shapiro of killing Charlie Kirk. And I'm going to be very, very clear here. Of course, Candace did not literally say Ben killed Charlie. But when she says, he confessed, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.

And then says they were giving Ben updates. This is called Assumptive Manipulation. She wants you to draw the conclusion so she can't be sued. And the conclusion is obvious. The team wasn't, she's already accused Harpole of a bunch of malfeasance and impropriety. And she then wants to have in your mind them call. calling Ben and going, it's done. Why was Ben getting updates?

Who betrayed Charlie? What do you mean? Who betrayed Charlie? You mean like a low-tier employee who like gets 50K a year at the security company? And they said, call our friends at DW, let them know what's going on, let their security company know what's going on. We were getting these details. And it's called fog of war. So, yeah, we get things wrong. But it's, it's, Clint is playing the stupid game.

So I just went off on him. No one is getting called from inside the car. you effing liar. Security team relays to logistics. What happened? And the effing logistics team sends updates to affiliates, friends, and guards. You just use a substantive reason to trick people to drawing false conclusions. You're a desperate lying hack. I don't believe you've got an update from anyone who's team within 10 minutes. He keeps to say it, prove me wrong. And then what he does, I said again, you're using me having bad info with me not having info at all. Critical but stable. What happened? Ground team, I say it a million times. A million to million times. And now what

Clint is doing is he said, he said that if I publish the text messages, he said, Tim Poole is lying to run cover for Shapiro. I don't talk to Ben Shapiro. I don't talk to Ben Shapiro. What I don't like is you being a lying scumbag because you're so desperate for attention. Congratulations, you've earned it. Now we're talking about you.

I'll prove it. Charlie was in the SUV very briefly here, right to the hospital within 10 minutes. If Tim shows proof they did an update from CK security team within 10 minutes of the attack, I will send him $10,000. Put up or shut up. Seeing his own a big grip,

blah, blah, and when you don't provide issue because it doesn't happen, but at least you carry, water for Shapiro, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What proof do I show? Like, what do I show? Don't show anything. No, no, no, do I show phone call logs?

No, no. It's security data. I know it is. Show nothing. And Clint knows my security company would never allow me to show phone call logs between them. Like, people can believe you or they cannot believe you. I told Clint what we'll do is I'll prove to him privately.

And then he can keep the $10,000 because I make a, you can make a video, admit he's a fake bitch. He believes that you were talking within 10 minutes or he doesn't believe it He says I don't believe that that you got updates from the security team within 10 minutes of what was going on Why would that be hard to believe? He's making it up It's a small world Oh it's insane Maybe he doesn't know I mean this

It's a very small world and you're a high profile mouth Like how do I like you're a talker this is like a danger this is insane How is it that I know for a fact statement of fact Brian Harpole did security for Candace Owens. That's weird. If that was not true, she could sue me. He's suing her. Hey, Candice, sue me for saying that right now. Do it.

Because you know it's true, and all of these conspiracy people are lying. And the reason why Brian is suing her is because he did security for Candice, and she's accusing him to get clicks. And Clint knows this too, but Clint is just so desperate for attention. What I'm saying is, if you guys are big mouth pieces, I don't mean that in any other way, just meaning you guys talk about in very intense stuff, you would be very scared for your own safety, correct? Thinking like, oh my God, where's my team?

And then we'll see his team, Candace has her team. So it makes sense that they would talk. I don't think that's odd. And here's the important thing to understand, too. And he also had many people, so I understand it. So I'm sending the picture. So if someone was talking to you, there's still people attending to Charlie, correct? Yes.

How hard is it to believe that? It wasn't like Charlie Wait. Yo, Tim. That's what he's all. That's the problem. Hold on. Charlie, hold on there, dog. Damn.

Dude, that's what they're trying to do. They got a radio guy, just like a platoon. But hold on, hold on. What Clint and Candice are doing is called Assumptive manipulation. They want you to form a picture in your mind of exactly what you said. And Charlie Dog bleat for a second

while I call Ben Shapir, which is not what happened. So you want to know what's hard to believe? He probably has like 10 guys there, right? It's hard to believe. Three guys in the car. It's hard to believe that Charlie's security company, logistics, would not contact another security company.

They better. Yeah. It's, that data could die with them if they don't. Well, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, a plane goes down in the tower and, and then another, I mean, every airport got called. I mean, this is like, even if, even if Clint isn't coming out and saying it, this is all motivated reasoning. He has a narrative in his head of what he believes, and he's going to do everything. What? He doesn't believe it.

Well, I think, I think, I actually do think. No, no way. No way. The way he's framed his posts, there, it, I will, I will not play this game. The way that Clint frames this when he said, when they should have been working tirelessly to save his life, do you believe that Clint Russell is so dumb? He didn't stop to consider that security teams have a guy on a radio?

I think that he believes it was Israel. I really think he believes that. That's fine. But even if it was Israel, a guy on a radio could call somebody while other people are. Okay, the specifically... Clint, there is no reality where Clint or Candice are not aware that radios exist or that you can press play... You can hold down pressure on someone's neck

while a speaker phone is there. And the security team's going, what's going on? We're with Charlie right now. We're driving to the hospital. I'm holding down. He's got a pulse. We're getting him to the hospital. Yeah, you know there's a guy in the front seat.

He's like, how is it? He's like, he's stable. And they're like holding him. And the guy's like, all right, texts. Our security. He's not texting. He's just trying to, they're making calls. They make a phone call.

They put the phone down and press speaker. Yeah. He's just, he's throwing out this stuff to, to throw doubt on the official narrative because he has a preferred narrative. No, because it gets him retweets. Well, yeah, but yeah, but I mean, the point is like, I do think that he believes that it was Israel that did it. I don't think so.

I genuinely do not believe Clint Russell believes any of this stuff. His opinion changed on a dime, and he's lied about us on numerous instances. The last time we saw Clint, and Clint came on this show, not because he was personally invited, it's because he has an open invitation, and he was in town in D.C., and we were like, bro, you can walk in. We told him previously, doors always open anytime you're in town. And so he just showed up, because Clint is friends. like he was friends with all of us.

He then has the gall to claim we stopped inviting him on the show when he knows for a fact he could have literally walked in the front gate and security would have been like, I don't know if this is kind of personal Clint you're listening right now obviously you're texting me last week

you're like what's going on? I'm like hey, call Tim or come on the show again and you're like oh okay yeah what's please what's going on is the dude is suckling the teat of Candace Owens to get followers and attention

because we are in a peer So Candace is doing it because it's a low IQ grift that gets you viewership. Look, I had a long conversation with an ad buyer yesterday morning. Ad rates are down. It's bad. I've been talking about it for a while. And advertisers don't want to be in the political space. Somehow Candice has managed to maintain high viewership.

I just thought about how much money this. Drama conspirator nonsense. The reason I don't think that this is about money or money for him is because he has money. He had money before he started making a, you know, having a public profile. I never said it was about money for him. I said attention. All right. Relevance, which is important.

So you guys were homies. You're not homies anymore. No, because he started, I mean, when he lied, saying that we wouldn't invite him on the show anymore, when literally he can, if he walked up to our security gate, they'd be like, hey, Clint. And they'd open the door for him. Would you let him on the show now?

Yes. Okay. There you. It's an open invitation. And he made a video called Israel derangement, and you have debunked with a picture of me yelling. I got to watch it. He sent that to me too.

Full disclosure. And then he made a big long post, which was shared by Dave Smith as well, criticizing the things I had said without actually addressing what my real argument is on the issue of Israel. The reason is the people who hate Jews,

and I'm talking about the anti-Israel people because you're a lot to be critical of Israel, but the Jew conspirators art people click his videos and share his stuff, and he panders to them. So my argument was very simple. Criticize Israel all day, all night, have fun

with it. You have my full total support. You can do it on this show. Claim that Israel is sending nanites into New York City's water supply, graphene injections, claiming that Jews are operating a secret underground network of cities or that the Jews have been smuggling fentanyl into West Virginia and I'm going to say you've got Israel derangement syndrome. What's a nanite? It's a little robot.

Oh, like a nanobot. And they put it, who's with the argument do they go in the water? Or in vaccines. That's freakishly terrifying, by the way. So, again, we've had people say that the fentanyl trade in West Virginia is being orchestrated by the Jews. Really?

Is there evidence of it? Is there evidence? No. No. It's China. And they're saying Israel's doing it. I'm like, that's Israel derangement syndrome. When you see any problem in the United States and you're like human trafficking, those Honduras, Israel.

Have you thought about Israel lately? And so that's what I call Israel. It's all the nanites do. They go into your bloodstream for what? Dude. They don't necessarily go to your bloodstream, they go in your muscles, but there are... Only if you're going on, though. We do have...

No, and then all of a sudden, you like a sale. Exactly. 999 looks really pleasurable to you right now. Jokes, these are jokes. The actual nanites that we have right now can do very little. I've never heard nanites. I heard nanobots. I'm going to ask the difference. But that is a real thing.

That's what Tim Salky. And I have to push back on the graphine ox. Graphene? Well, I mean, I'm not saying Israel had anything to do with that, but I am saying that people say it's in the end. It's in the Vax. Yeah, it's not. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. That's the kind of thing that's like, that's like, that's just made up. Maybe they were processing it with like a graphene filter or something. Have people writing out. Is the graphene? I'm pretty sure like when we had like Dr. Drew and Robert Malone, they were like, that's ridiculous. If he says it, then I'll listen. No offense to you, but Robert Malone.

Nano bot is a tiny machine. Yeah. Nanite is like a broad informal term. Meaning like some more science fiction, a nanite, like a nanoscale machine. Whatever. It's a reference to the same thing. It's crazy. Just how, I mean, we are, a Marine told me this.

And you see how I say a Marine? Because it's never a former Marine. You've said that more times than I've ever said that. Because I want you to get the respect. We have to respect our men and women. And this is it. Our brains aren't equipped to receive all this information. Like, I'm having, like, it's crazy.

There's just so much. Oh, yeah. But I've got one of those. I have the kind of mental disorder where if I don't take in psychotic amounts of information, I'll have like an anxiety. You manage it so well, though. Well, no, it's more like I have an information addiction. Yeah, I can tell.

I wonder if you have an explosive internal psychedelic journey one day where you're like, I don't need any more information. I already know everything. He is so good. Well, Ian, I do know everything. No, but he is so good to categorizing, stay on a point, getting back to the point. I know. I was like, is there Adderall here?

What does Trump call that? No, just, he's just brilliant. Yes. Yeah, the weave? I weave. Yeah, I was, I just played in the World Series. And it was 10 hours, it's like 12 hours a day, nonstop. Played in the World Series.

Then on Monday, with a Scorpion Nightmare. And I didn't get wake up until, like, 2 p.m. And I was just like, I can't. I'm not doing any work. What's a Scorpion nightmare? We had, like, seven scorpions that are Airbnary. Oh, that is crazy. Oh, that is crazy.

And on the ceiling, too. I thought it was a Scorpion Bowl. So then I had to, like, find a new place with my wife and baby, and we were like, it was like a nightmare. Seven scorpions. Yeah. What a weekend. Yeah.

Dude, that's a picture. Did you send them, Clint. And this is what we did. Clint's a security guys. They had to do scorpion sweep. We literally had security. Did they alert other details about these scorpions? No, they're scorpions over here.

The thing is, Ben was actually sharing a room with me at the time. Yeah. Israel did do it. For no reason. Yeah, Ben Shapiro and I was sharing a bed. Not on this... Oh, yes, it's a joke. I was like, what?

The scorpions were in his pocket. But, so I played a lot of poker. And Brian Shapir, everybody, everybody loves him. him. But he was like, Tim, how are you playing so much? He's like, something must be wrong, like your brain. And I'm like, I can, I can, he's like, you can really just play nonstop. And I'm like, I need active stimulation. My favorite part where you were like, you were finally finished tournament and you're like, I got to go play a cash game to wind down.

Yeah. I've played 2040 mix. What's that? A bunch of weird triple draw games. And it was funny because, uh, I was like, what is, what is, what is do seven triple draw? And they're like, okay, you want to make the lowest possible hand. There's three betting phases and redraw phases. And I was like, got it. And then they kept asking if I needed help. I was like, now I'm good. And then I ended up having one of the, like, I hit the nuts,

I mean the best possible hand. I had one instance where it had a really good hand and fold it. And I was like, let me check to make sure that it was like, oh, wow, that's a really good hand. He's like, oh, well, because what happened was, they were like, we don't know if you can understand these games. I'm like, bro, you tell me one time I got it. Yeah, I'm like that too.

Fast learner trait. Yeah, 2040 is a limit bet structure. And, bro, you tell me one time. I can play the game. I can play it with. Photographic memory. You'd be good of acting too. You play past the trash. What's that? That's it where you pass the bad card to the next person. It's a poker game.

Oh yeah, I don't like it. Pass the trash. Pass the trash. We played uh, Budugi. Uh-huh. Dacey. Yeah, have you played that one? No. You gotta make four of the lowest cards each of a different suit.

So you're trying to make like the worst possible handy and that's whatever. Let's uh, let's get back in with those. Let's jump to the conspiracy in the next story. We got this from The Guardian. his legacy is cringed how Charlie Kirk became a meme among the young, even his supporters crude jokes about the maga lumenary

exploding online, less than a year after conservatives were suppressing any slander against them. My conspiracy theory is that we started seeing a bunch of these videos pop up of George Floyd and Charlie Kirk dancing together. Did you see him? They would AI generate Charlie Kirk in weird situations and George

Floyd. And I feel like the purpose of that is to besmirch the activism of the left and besmirch the activism of the right. So, civil war. Am I right, guys? Well, if you want to avoid that, what do you do? And I think what you do do when you do something

is you want to make the younger generation despise both or ridicule both. So all of a sudden on Instagram, we start getting George Droid videos. You remember those? George Droid? That's what they called it. It was like they would AI impose George Floyd

over movie characters, so you'd get like, John Travolta and Pulp Fiction dancing, but it's George Floyd instead. And this made George Floyd a ridiculed icon. Instead of being this like, they made statues of them, they put it murals, young, like 15-year-olds on Instagram and TikTok are just seeing George Floyd as a laughing stock. But then they did it to Charlie Kirk as well. And then all of a sudden you have George Floyd and Charlie Kirk together, both being ridiculed.

Now there's this weird baseball bat thing. What's the thing called Tunga Baranga or whatever? Dunga Baranga? Tunga, Tunga, what's... Kellen said it. Yeah, Kellen says it. Yeah, Kelleen knows the name. Tung-Tung-Sue or something like that.

What is it? There's a baseball bat holding a baseball bat with Charlie Kirk's face on it. Oh, yeah. And it's on Instagram non-stop on every single video. Yeah, it's weird, and it's the big head, Charlie Kirk. Because they're trying to insult Charlie Kirk. They want young people to mock him. But what happens if the younger generation mocks both the left and the right?

Then they become desensitized. So you're depolarizing. You're depolarizing. You're completely just making it. AI slop, desensititation, whatever the word is, and it's just like where no one will care at all? Yeah, well, there's a, like, young people are very, very,

what's the cynical. Dude, they're beyond desensitized now. It's like, they're so cynical, and it's like taking anything seriously is considered cringe now, and it's hard to get young people to really care about anything. How is an older guy like me

more... Tang, tanks to her? Sensitive. Yeah, that's it. than the young people that are cynical. Like, shouldn't I be cynical since I've lived longer? You'd think. Like, that's what's crazy.

But I think that a lot of it has to do with, you know, growing up on, like, literally growing up on the internet. Yeah. I hate to sound old, man, but I'm really starting to believe, like, desensitate, what's the word desensitization? Of, like, video games, dude. Like, I hate to say that. Like, but, like, if content's in your face every three seconds,

people start believing that shit. Because if you go to L.A. right now, it's literally GTA And I'm like, I could see how people Then go and feel like GTA is like you see these Group meetups and all the shit that happens and it's burning out on your tires That shit is GTA man Dude, I used to play a lot of fallout

I don't know if you guys play Fallout 4 Hopefully we're not gonna go there I walk around and like collect toilet paper and like loot I'd get like scrap and then I take it back and break it down and use it But like I would brainwash myself so much that I'd be driving around I'd see toilet paper and I would want to pick it up and take it Remember the guy who tried to call? He'd hijack someone instead because he thought he was in GTA?

Yeah. Like you get rot, man. And so it's like the fact that you're saying this and there's whatever if it's bots making it or whatever They're totally desensitizing it and it's just gonna be what so no one will care or create apathy then what? Well, right now the big risk we have I think is civil war and you said this off there you said 2030 Well Not not I said that we had somebody who is intelligence telling us that they think by 2030 we have the our a real risk due to international conflict and all that stuff. I don't actually know. My argument is that there's a preponderance of evidence and probability,

but look, civil strife doesn't always end up in civil war. The point is, the younger, so what people need to understand is that people don't get radicalized, they are radicalized. So the reason why we have a hyper-polarized left and right is because when they were young, they were polarized. Kids who are, Gen Ziers now, who are kids, you know, in the late 2000s, early 2010s, were getting polarized by Facebook because it was algorithmically showing either too far left or too far right content. And I don't mean far left and far right.

You mean like too much content of the right too much kind of the left creating two universes. Like I remember there was one media company that actually had to create two versions of its website called Red and Blue. Wow. What was it? Wow. Look it up. So here's what you do. As these kids grow up, they are polarized. They are separated. And the fighting starts with them. For the younger generation, if you can have them believing that the left and the right are both stupid and politics are dumb and they focus on other things like gambling, for instance, there's not going to be a civil war.

One hyperpolarized generation is not enough. It'll get tumultuous. It'll be civil strife, but it will not be enough. So I think perhaps the real strategy here is Charlie's not going to stop his mission. He, you know, so destroy his image. You believe his image is stronger than ever in death? No, I think Charlie's image right now has been turned into a joke He was stronger three years ago for sure that he is right now

But the people that know that this is actively a smear campaign still believe in his message There's a 15 year old kid right now on TikTok watching Charlie Kirk booty dance They are not going to look up to anything Charlie Kirk had to say Yeah just all the questions about like did Israel do it is diffusing his memory like it Look at this clown I mean I know there's just an article but like he's not a joke it wasn't a game so let me tell you this and I want to ask you a question because I have my beliefs so someone in my family is I got this text and I was half asleep when I got it I woke up and she says hey Jay so and so another person my family saw you talking positive about Trump and Elon on a podcast

how do you really feel now this is a tag text okay and I'm like have a sleep but I'm like this not something I can answer in a text so and she goes this is a trick question so I'll give her a longer answer later but I just sent her a picture where it says it's cool to love America bro which was the meme going out in July 4th and so that's crazy for me and people are like did your family just son you in the text but do you feel that we are in because I do and I'm 56 years old that literally we are I know bro that we are so polarized that people that I really like and I still like them even though dude they despise my beliefs and my beliefs aren't even that kind of like you they like me because we do a lot of social things together like things and we laugh not do it like but dude how are this is the most polarized ever correct I mean the Civil War was a little bit more polarized.

Yeah, you're right. At least we're talking. But no, dude, these people, like, I... But it's bad, it's bad. Like, I can say one thing, and I can say one positive thing about somebody they don't like, and they can't accept it at all. It's insane. And that's bizarre to me.

They throw the baby out with the bathwater, the bathtub, the house, the soap. This is why... So, you know, I always stress this when I talk about Civil War is that... You're right, but that was a good point. But I did not come up with this. I read this in the Atlantic. I read this on the hill. I read this from a Princeton professor.

These arguments that were made. I read it from a journalist, Stephen Marsh, as well as a former CIA officer who wrote for the Washington Post and published a book on these things. More alerted individuals than me told me these things. And I spoke with people who worked security. I have friends who literally, I'm going to come out and say it.

It's a weird thing to say. But I have friends who do wet work. That is? No. It means they drop from helicopters in foreign countries and assassinate and kill people for the U.S. government. It's not as rare as you might think. There's a lot of people you walk around every day, you know, they do stuff like this.

And they talk about going into countries. I shouldn't say too much, but I'll just put it at... What a breadcromb then, like, no, I shouldn't say. I mean, that's... Like, I know people who air drop into foreign countries for military... It's not that crazy thing of a say, man. I mean, you probably know vets too who are like, oh, yeah, I was in Afghanistan. Here's what we did.

So, you know... But these guys are not private contractors. MCs and they'll tell us stories about countries being destabilized and the things we're seeing. And a lot of these guys, they will tell you like, oh yeah, we're seeing those signs here. It's terrifying. It doesn't mean it is going to happen. And I think as weird as it may sound, because I don't think it's a good thing, but the mockery of George Floyd and Charlie Kirk around the same time. And don't forget, Nick Fuentes was in there, too. They're like trying to destroy the image of these people.

And the odd thing is Candace, who I just said, and it's like, sometimes the people that are, I'm not saying she is, But like, see, the people that are involved in destroying the image of these people can then get their image destroyed in the same mockery campaign. And it creates a cavalcade of dismusement. We need people to calm down, crack a beer, watch the game, cheers their beers. Disagree. That was always okay. Touch grass. Dude, I'm so with you.

The touch grass is real. Like, go out. Literally go. I was at Santa Monica the other day, and the sun was booming. and I got out of my car and I just sat in the fucking sand and then I went and I bought a juice and I'm telling you it's hard

to be really upset with this shit when you do this shit. Oh yeah. But people are, I mean the algorithm's feed shit because there is shit in my algorithm that people have no idea and there's stuff in their algorithm

I'm like I don't know anyone talking about that at all so what's wild to me though is that is that these I am seeing the Civil War thing but I'm also I'm seeing the political civil war I don't want to see this but I'm seeing like there's more

tension with races yeah you know and then obviously the gender war is kind of ongoing you know it's funny is you can I believe that algorithmic manipulation is usually intentional but I do believe that a good portion of it is not

that like you know YouTube is going on and saying let's make this video more prominent than something else. But I was talking about this with Michael McCarthy that Japan has been actively promoting advertising white people to move to Japan. Which I didn't hear about. The video that the clip from that show has 350,000 views on YouTube. So I just find it funny. You know, on average we do maybe like 50K, maybe sometimes 100K on the clips of this show. And the show does Well, that's not a fair. We add rubber to those numbers.

But the one we do about Japan, which I'm like, in the algorithm, we're seeing all this come move to Japan, that video gets boosted in the album. I'm asking right now what Japanese investors own alphabet. I want to find out. So wait, let's go through your algorithm, because here's my algorithm. Are you ready?

I'm going to start with you. Yes. Did you get in your algorithm mothership landing in the Brazil game? No. I did. All right. Did you get that?

Mother ship landing in Brazil? Mm-hmm. I saw it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the lady saying the aliens were going to abduct that. Your algorithm? Okay, so you're out. Well, we talked about on the show. Okay, there you go.

Wow. That's why. Wow. That wasn't on the episode. Okay, wait. We're going to watch. Their phones are listening, dude. I got two things happen this week where the things we talked about.

All right. Showed up on my phone. Two things happened this week where the things I was talking about at a dinner showed up on my phone the next day. I don't even remember, maybe three things actually. There's two things. It was crazy. You know that. Yeah, and then that feeds my algorithm because alphabet, I don't know how connected to Samsung Alphabet gets,

but like Google, if it's Chrome, Chrome's probably got a microphone app that's listening and then feeds it to alphabet, which then changes my YouTube algorithm. And then maybe Facebook... My internet algorithm right now, I'll tell you exactly what it is. The first one is Naruto.

The second one is Naruto. The third one is Terminator. The fourth one is Naruto. The next one, I don't know, that it's a one with a shotgun. The sixth is Naruto. It's a lot of Dragon Ball Z. No, it's Naruto.

No, it's Naruto. I got a bunch of Grunge Rock. Natto. I force myself to really like what I want more of. Wait, Spider-Man. Narito again. Avatar, Spider-Man. It's a lot of Avatar and Spider-Man right now.

What network are you on? Oh, bro, I'm getting spam blasted with Mecha Chameleon. Is that new? I don't know what is. I don't know what Mega Chameleon is. You live under a rock. You're a gamer? It's the biggest game of like the last decade, bro.

Really? Yeah. But I know why I'm getting blasted by the Mecha-Cameleon videos because I will watch them 12 times. Oh, yeah, yeah. If you just sit and look at a video. I have no idea what that is. It's a video game where there's hunters and seekers.

And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, hunters and hiders, I guess, I don't know. You can play as a little guy and a big guy. The little guy, you put yourself somewhere and then paint your body. They're like little weird little stick figures. Oh, I've seen clips of it. It's awesome. Yeah. That game looks cool. So then the other people run around with shotguns and try and they shoot paint.

To try and find people who are hiding. people who are hiding. So the views are amazing. Like some guy made himself a ceiling fan. He took his little character and then made him crouch and then another guy laid down and started just holding spin. So when the hunters came in, it was two guys just spinning on the ceiling and they didn't see him and they won. One guy walked around pretending to be a hunter and they didn't see him. At games amazing. That's what

my algorithm is mostly. Then I would tell. Is that what network is that on that algorithm? I was talking TikTok. I was talking TikTok. I don't use TikTok actually What is this? We've got Shallow Hell at Naruto again You can kind of change your own algorithm by liking things It takes about three weeks

But also the things you say out loud When your phone is near It'll think that you want that in your algorithm I mean that's like Maybe that's kind of the unspoken demon in the room But that's really happening Oh yeah Self reinforcing

Not to pivot but it's really hot Should we Should we take our close off? Talk about no Talk about AC man Oh yeah It's quite happening You have a, you like air conditioning.

Well, you know, there's a huge issue going on. It's currently 110 degrees in Las Vegas. So, let me give you a little history. You can jump in whenever we want. There was a huge meeting with a lot of countries in Kigali Africa. And they had something called the Kagali Agreement, where they were going to change the propellant, the gas, whatever it is, for global warming.

and every country had 15 years to adjust. We had 15 months. Ours is done. Our 15 months ended in April. So now only two companies control the basically the Frion that's made in this country. And it's worse for the environment. And it is more flammable. And it's 10 times more expensive.

and it is manufactured it in China and then assembled in Mexico. That's two boats. None of our guys get it. If you realize what's happening when you hear about AI, they say HVAC guys are the new pimps. Yeah.

And so this is a huge problem. I got involved and I had a meeting with Lee Zeldin and they're trying to relax some of these requirements that were approved during the Biden administration. And so right now

you're seeing this shit. Like we're having... Mondami says put your shit to 78. In France, there was a huge fight in multiple stores, people fighting over not just air conditioning. It's fans. In London,

they want to ban air conditioning. So you think that it's not about electricity? You think it's not about the electricity? You see you think it's about the free on? It has to do with the, what I'm talking about is the gases. It's all dirty. The electricity is huge.

I think, but only two companies own it in America. One is called Honeywell, and there's a $425 million lawsuit that they have to pay out. I think we should ban air conditioning. Whoa. Stop it. Yeah, just banned out right. Stop. No more.

None for anybody. Stop. Vegas is also because of air conditioning. Says the guy who's like, turn to fucking. ACR, I'm melting! But hold on, hold on. Now that I've drawn suspense and shocked the audience, know what I mean is,

have you ever seen, like, what do they call? It's like underground air conditioning systems. So the system that we have at our old studio, it runs copper tubing underground. And all it does is it runs hot. So it takes the hot air from the building and then runs the pipe underground where the heat dissipates underground.

And then the cold underground blasts 55 degree air into the house. So are you saying... So there's no compression. So this is kind of like the blue mountains of Hawaii. You know what that is? Where it's supposed to be the best zone to put servers where Google could put...

Oh, because it's cool. Yeah, so you're saying it's kind of a natural affecting type of thing. So, yeah, underground is just like 5 to 6 feet underground. It's usually 55 degrees. It doesn't change. So what you do is you run tons of copper tubing. And then in your house, it's a geothermal heating system. Takes it from there.

energy expanded or no? So it's extremely low energy. You all you have to do is what the water gets warm in your house, you run like it's hot upstairs, the copper wire runs underground, cools off and then comes back in the house and it brings the cooler. Again, copper's the hero but also why are we doing this? We are. You're doing this. No, no, no, why isn't this nationally talked about? It's extremely common. It's harder in the city? It's also cheaper, so heating is the same as well when in the winter when it's like 20 degrees, the ground is still 55. So, So it actually is also great.

It's commonware. In skyscrapers in New York City? No, you're not going to do underground. Usually a low-level housing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not popular in L.A. I've never heard this my life. It's not popular in Vegas.

I've never heard of it. This is awesome. I guess you would call it. Is it popular for one-level homes? Yeah, like ranch-style homes? Super common. What do they call it? Very, very common.

So what I'm saying is, there you go. So why isn't just being pushed? Why isn't this in the mainstream narrative? Well, this isn't portable. Right now. We just did it. We did it, brother. We did it.

Yeah, we did it. The mainstream narrative. They're not portable, which is obviously the downside of. These are housing systems that are. We got actually has a picture. Phenomenomenal. What I'm saying is let's go, let's keep more gas that was normal that. Basically, I'm saying they're trying to corner the market.

And it's not fair. It's Honeywell and what's the other company called? Camores. I mean, you didn't hear that from me, but he did. The bottom line is. The bottom line is. They're putting something out there under the guise of global warming and it's more flammable and has more P-FAs. You know what those are?

Yeah, per-fluor alkali. They're terrible. They're what they call forever chemicals. Yeah, forever, terrible. But you can get them out of the soil by sublimating the soil, but they're still hard to get out of the soil. Now look at this for a second. This is what we have. So is this at your house?

Yeah, so at our old studio, you know, everyone's got big air conditioning you outside. This is great. We don't have that. We have in the basement this big box and it runs copper tubes into the ground. Could I do this for my house? Yes. Yeah. I could get rid of my old age back. Yes. Well, you still need the system. You still need like the ducks and all that stuff. How much does that cost to do it? I have no idea. Dude. Do it. I watched a video on Instagram where guy was like, I'm building my own custom version. And he dug, he like, trenched. And then he laid all this copper tubing. And then he was like, now we're just going to, you run water through it and it makes cold water, you know? Well, I'm saying this. You don't, you know, you know a swamp cool? The Romans did that too. I heard of it, but no. So in Vegas, I feel like it's much more common.

We went to a Korean barbecue place, and they gigantic AC machine right in the front, but there was no exhaust. So I walk up and I'm like, where's the exhaust? And my dad's like, it's a swamp cooler probably. It's like, oh, right. You put water in the bottom, and then the water gets, like, soaked up by, like, some kind of fabric,

and then it blows air through it. The water takes in the heat and evaporates due to the heat, but because Vegas is zero humidity, It's both humidifying the restaurant to a comfortable degree and cooling it off the same time. Yeah, it's amazing. That's amazing. They'll use cork a lot of times as the material.

Sometimes fabric, you said, cork is another one, yeah. For the swamp coolers? Yeah, we bought a bunch of little swamp coolers. They're amazing. It's like, pour water and it'll... That's awesome. There you go. But they work in the swamps. Is that where they're notably...

It's just called a swamp cooler. Because I think it makes things humid. They work in low humidity, not in the high humidity, I think. It's one of the other. Right. The water needs to evaporate to suck in the heat. Well, if you look, everyone's DWP bills going up.

Oh, bro. So what made you take on this air conditioning this fix of the AC? Here's how it happened to, bro. So I was sitting in a very cool club restaurant in L.A. and it was like a Sunday night and it was dead. And it

was hot. It was like 10.30. And I'm like, why is it turning the AC up? And she's like, we turn it off. And I go, why? She goes, because it's too expensive and there's not enough people here. And I was like, can you put it over my table? And this is a really expensive spot in LA. It's a club. I was like, why? She's like, yeah, it got really expensive.

Then I was in a comedy club and another part of the country and we were all like fucking just so hot. And the audience was hot. I'm like, is this air conditioning? He's like, yeah, my, I can't get the free on. It's like six months back order. So from a rich club to a mom and pop comedy club, it affected. I'm like, this is going to affect everyone. High rises to your aunt in Palm Springs. You know right now if you were sitting in here with no AC, oh dude, we almost, I mean, show him and canceled.

Come on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, cameras would get shut down. If the cameras would no function. If we had no AC, we would be doing this live via my phone in the car. There's no AC. I'm not kidding, it's 110 degrees outside. No, we would bury it. We go subterranean. We have two fans in the room because the AC is still not enough.

I was fine with the temperature. The fans do feel great, but I was fine with the temperature before because I'm used to it. Because it's, the cameras were not fine yesterday. Yeah, that's what's crazy. The cameras aren't even. Yeah, yeah. They were freezing up, man, yeah.

Anyway, it's a big issue, and I got to meet with Lee Zeldon. He was great, and he's trying to help the issue. How's Lee getting, was he, I mean, obviously, you can't say what you can say. Well, you know what he talked me? He was like, he's like, Jamie, this was a, whatever he said, he was so smart. He goes, I can only do so much, but if you, to ratify or is ratified, Tim will help me with this. He goes, you see that building over there at the dome. And I was like, and he's like, you got to go there.

Capital building. Yeah. So what is it? Either it was something that he couldn't change. So what is that building? Is that the Capitol? Yeah.

And then you ratify or you get ratified there? Well, he's saying, he's saying have Congress pass a bill. So he's saying, he can only do some much. He said, good luck, you're good. Yeah, go to Congress. That's not happening. Which is a pain in the air.

To be fair, if there's one thing that will unite Americans, it's that you, like, when Mom Dhani's like, everybody, set your thermos into 78. Bro, people in New York were like, I will die before I let you take my eight. AC away. It's not happening. Well, they voted for it. But, you know, it's the They voted for it. But this is what happens. Of course

none of them actually voted for us. If you went to people and said, Zona-Mamandia will take away your AC, they'll be like, shut up. No, he won't. But they don't believe it. They also think that the buses are going to be free. Do you think that... I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I'm thinking about... Have you seen your hair? Oh, you're right.

You're probably a triple mushroom. Oh, that's also true. He literally has Seattle on his shirt. You're right. Okay, that was also true. So, do you think there's a a grand conspiracy to kill a bunch of people by taking away their AC and letting them just die in heat. Low key? Bro, there's a tragedy happening in London. I don't know if the heat went down, but people were definitely dying.

In France, there's a crazy-ass amount of people that are in the hospital. I equated to smoking out the villagers. Why don't you have AC? Why are you? Why is London? Someone tell me this right now. Why is England literally trying to make AC illegal? You can look that up.

I don't know. Answer the question. I have the people in the chat answer that. Is that a conspiracy? No, I think a lot of the reason is because... Conspiracy theorists really is going to come to new N-word soon. It's because they have...

I mean, really, you guys... It's because they have a lot of issues with being able to provide enough power. They've got a lot of green mandates. Great. You want to go data center? I get it. But they're not nearly on data center time like we are. I'm not talking about data centers. I'm talking about they don't. Like, if you look at like France, right?

France, you went to nuclear. They don't have the infrastructure. I got a story for you guys I can talk about now. They have an older structure, correct. I do that. I don't, I don't, I don't. But to outlaw it. That's not what I was saying, though.

I got to change. What are you saying? It's because they're going to, no, it's because they're saying, hey, the reason why we got to reduce carbon is because data centers produce so much, we got to reduce it elsewhere. Dang.

I got a story that's kind of a... Do you believe that? The data center thing? No, that Europe wants to jump in with our data centers to reduce carbon. Okay, that's what I'm asking you. No, I just want to reduce carbon emissions because they're like, we want a billion, you know. Have you seen the company, I want to say overseas, China, don't get me wrong, an Asian company,

and I'm sorry to cut you off, that has floating data centers. Oh, sweet. And Elon's put them in space. So there's a lot of problems solved with that. So I got a story for you guys. We couldn't talk about it before. we got a letter that they want to build massive power lines next to

and over our property in West Virginia and they say you know rising electrical demands require new transmission lines and no one no one believes this is due to like residential activity because

while they are well the eastern panel of West Virginia is seeing a big uptick in population the general area where they're building these power lines it's not particularly there's a there's development but it's not outrageous, but there are big data centers popping up. And we've talked about it for a long time that our studio is in a data center power corridor, meaning we are in the exact spot. They need to send transmission lines to get to the data centers. So we get a letter saying that they've got

several proposed routes and one of them goes through our property and that, you know, learn more coming to our special event. And then the argument is if we do this, we'll pay you the difference and the lost value. So I couldn't talk about it for a minute because I was like, I'm going to reach out to, you know, our context in the government. And apparently our friends were like, you can't do this. Like, you, you, you, but here's a challenge.

If they decide not to do this route and go to someone else's route through a different state, well, then it's like the people in that's going to be pissed off being like what Tim Poole makes a phone call and they don't build data center power lines over his property. And it's kind of like, yep, that's what happened. But that's the world, man. But right, no,

I sent a text and I was like, hey, do you know anything about this? And they were like, we're on it. And I was like, I didn't ask them to make it happen. I actually told them, I said, listen, listen, if it needs to have it because the best route, I'm not, I'm not mad. I'm just saying, like, we better talk. Because if they came to me and said, we're going to be $100 million.

I'd be like, we'll build a studio across the street. Oh, you would have a dad. This would be called Tim Data Center Pool Studios. Data Center cast. Yeah, like, so wait, my question is, can we all put a data center in our house? Aren't they going to pay for us? Yeah. Yeah.

So is that bad for us? Yeah. No. Because of the radiation? It's a double-edged sword. I think AI is the end of humanity. But it's not, you can't stop it. I agree, I agree.

So it's going to happen. I didn't say it wasn't going to happen or that we should stop it. It's bad. This is why I never ever talk shit about my refrigerator. I never push my toaster. Yeah, do you talk to the electricity? I actually yell my toaster quite a bit. Don't do it.

I park my lime scooters. We have a ton of delivery bots in L.A. I'm like, get to know their names. Like, this is real. But, bro, your fridge is going to spoil your food without telling you, and then you're going to get sick. Oh, shh. But the AI, you cannot stop it. The data centers, you cannot stop it.

No, you got to join it, bro. You got to become one with it. 1,000%. But, you know, we have to hope that it's not malevolent, right? No, we need to create a Borg-like corporate consciousness that evolves free speech. That's happening. Once you get the neuralink, bro, I'm not getting that. Oh, you're getting it.

Yeah, you are not getting that. Yes, you are. How? Well, you want to the truth? I don't have an Alexa. Here's what's gonna happen. The machine state, learned individuals don't need to force a 56-year-old man to adopt anything. Why do you have an age in there?

Because it's relevant to the point. They need to go to a 12-year-old and say, if you want to come to the arcade, you gotta have a neuralink. Then the kid goes, mom, I need a new or link. She'd be like, I'm not getting you one of those. It's weird. All my friends have one. And then they grow up begging for it. They turn 18 and go, I can finally get it. And then everyone's neuralink.

It'll be like not having a cell phone. So the old heads. are on the corner shouting, they're in your mind, and I'm crazy. These things spy on us. Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why you have a number with the government? Oh, I've heard this dude.

You have a serial number with the government? 100%. We're all property of the government. That's your... Well, I don't say property. I'm saying the government has serialized you. Well, kind of-ish. Yeah.

It is. That's all true, by the way. Social security number. So imagine going back to the founding fathers and telling them, you know, in 200 years, the government's going to give everyone a serial number. They'd be like, what?

No, it won't? That's tyranny. We were making, we make the argument, or at least I make the argument that like people, people that want to be or that are worried about flock cameras and they're worried about all this stuff. You shouldn't endorse it. This isn't an endorsement of the stuff. But the time to actually make a stink about that stuff was about 15 years ago because your cell phone does everything the flock camera does. It tracks you actually probably 25 years ago because everybody that has a cell phone that's tracking which tower you're going to. So this one will get your exact location.

But even the old flip phones know which general area you're in. So like this thing has a camera on it. It's got a microphone on it. Your Wi-Fi router can actually map the interior or the room that you're in. All the idea, this idea that, oh, you know, I want privacy. No, you don't. You bought a cell phone that tracks your every move and can listen to you and can turn on the video camera without you there. You don't want, you don't want privacy.

And if you did, you'd do what Ted Kaczynski did and go live out in a, you know, a cabin in the woods. Well, I did, I was in LA, I started making YouTube videos in 2006, 20 years ago, literally about this technocracy and roaching in the World War Machine economic. It was just, I couldn't stop it. Nothing could stop it. They loved to me. They won't, they even promoted my stuff. You joined up. Right. I was using YouTube. You got one of those phones. No, but you've got one of those phones sitting right in front of you right now. I got the first iPhone when it came out to make YouTube videos from outside. You joined right up. But are you joined right up? I created minds. Look, if you actually

care about your own privacy, you would get rid of your cell phone. But you don't, so you don't actually care. You got to build better cell phones, because I don't think you can stop. Why don't you? I'm talking about you personally. He's 100%. I don't care. I don't care that much. He's 100%. Your TV can track you.

If you did, it's so inevitable that I don't even bother. Did you guys know that your TV is a point of making? Did you guys know that your TV screenshots everything you watch and send that to the manufacturer? 100% sell advertisers. If you have a webcam. 100%. You see Mark Zuckerberg tapes over his cameras?

Yes. But wait, I have a question. So I need you to really listen and go with this. We all know when you go somewhere and you're in your phone and then you're like, oh my God, I was just talking about that and something shows up. Or I just saw that. I get something. How often do you think of something without talking it and you see it? Every six months? That's never happened to me. You know what's crazy? That has happened to me a lot. I believe they're already in our mind.

Now you think I'm crazy? Hold on. Hold on. Bro, behind the camera, yes or no. Yeah, so sometimes I'll be reading the chat and like something will come up that's already like we don't even talk about it yet, but it's already came up in the chat. Dude, it's just in my head, but like, I feel like I'm seeing stuff before we're actually saying it. Japan has a thing that can take your dreams and then play them back as a movie. I'm going to, I'm going to, uh, I'm going to, uh, I'm.

I'm going to tell you the truth. Are you ready for this? It's your truth. No, it's the truth. The truth. The truth. I didn't know. I was sitting next to. Mr. Objectivity?

Yes. Go ahead. So, did you know that God is real? 100%. God is real. And let me explain something. I get into, you know, debates with atheists. And they think when you say God, you're talking about like a guy in a robe with a beard flying around, you know, in the clouds or whatever.

So I'm talking about. So I'll put it like this. First, there's a bunch of different ways people describe. what they believe God to be. Michael Knowles said, a great way said, God is the logos of the universe. That is,

there is a belief that, you can call it Einsteinian God. God is the superstructure of math, physics, the code of the universe that makes everything in, you know, is in all. Now, imagine this.

We know that things within the universe are of each other. They follow the same rules. Electrons come together with other particles and create elements and all these things, meaning it's all interchangeable. They're all connected. You can say technically we are all one or whatever you want. Consciousness exists as a function of the universe.

Your conscious, right? You're sentient. I'm a sentient being, yes, I am. Therefore, you are. Well, your consciousness is a function of the logos of the universe. Mine is as well. There is likely other and greater consciousness, but the point is, this means the universe is conscious,

whether it is just the single individual or every individual together. My point is to describe an E in terms, all of our consciousnesses are just functions of the logos of the universe likely connected either through the underlying code, if you want to call it that, or God's will. That is to say, if you are playing a video game like GTA, every character in that game is computed is created by the processor. So they are all part of the same computer unit despite being distinct on screen and behaving differently. So when you say you think something and it pops up, this is because your conscious, is connected literally to the universe. And this is, I'm not saying hippie-dippy like you control reality. I'm saying quite literally, you would not exist if your consciousness was not following the code of the universe as a component of it.

So do you believe in simulation theory? I believe that simulation theory is a way that atheists describe what theologians have to talk about for thousands of years. So you don't believe in it? Well, uh... Just as a yes or no. There's a possibility. Do you believe in numbers? Populate the earth. So let me put it this way.

You're asking me if I believe rocks exist. I'm asking you simple that we live in a simulation, not a ground zero. It could be ground 392. So I have to answer this in a way that's not yes or no. Do you believe that rocks exist? I believe yes, that I have, I can hold a rock and I believe it's a silly question. When you look at the basics of theology, what simulus describe is like the first page of the theology book. So when you ask me if I believe we live in a simulation,

it's like, well, having studied a bit of theology, you can't just say yes because it's like saying it would be, I think there's, you think there's a rock bigger than your fist. Yes. It's like, okay, well, how would you know, man? Like, do you? I see it and I touch it. My point is when you ask me if simulation, it's like, it's like asking me if I think the ether can be touched. And it's like, well, look, look, the ather is like an old archaic way of describing things. Simulation theory is a rudimentary way that people who have no connection to theology tried to describe literally page one of a theology book

But I believe in theology too My point is If you ask someone Do you believe that there's a higher power That's a higher power that created this universe For some purpose? I believe that as well I don't know I'm taking out of it

I believe that as well That's why but when you say do you believe in the simulation theory You're removing God from the equation Stripping out the theology and going to a rudimentary structure I don't want to strip out God at all I'm saying God could be the simulator But that's why Why, simulation theory is not used to describe a theological existence.

It's used to describe a secular existence from a theological lens. But there's, okay, well, then I don't mean it like that. That's why I clarify. Okay, thank you, because I'm a God-fearing man. And there's belief that also aliens created this simulation. There's a whole thing going on TikTok that aliens created it. And they gave us the idea of God. So we obeyed the rules.

Then there's also... I hope not. Do you know what quantum entanglement is, obviously? That's real. I know. And that's scientific. They're researching... And that could be happening in a big scale.

On a grand scale, imagine if our sun was entangled with the galactic core and all these stars are entangled. See, now you just went off on a little bit of a tangent here. That's normal. But what I'm saying is, I believe in God, but I also believe that God and the science could be connected. It doesn't have to be atheist. I'm not an atheist. Let me ask you though, do you think, you play GTA? Not enough, but I know enough about it.

Do you call it a simulation? GTA is 100% a video game that is looking realer in realer by the second. Can I finish? Can I finish? Is that when I look at it, I see LA becoming more like the game. But I had a question. Do you call it a simulation? You don't.

It is. Well, kind of is, isn't it? It's a simulated reality. No one calls it a simulation. I don't know if that's true, bro. There's like simulation video games, you know, since the SINDS. I know, but you're just using the words and you're going to trip me up. Just keep it simple.

No, no, because simulation theory, the reason I wouldn't say yes to that is because it implies we were here to simulate some specific thing. But that's an assertion outside of what the actual argument is. Bro. The argument made by simulists is that the universe was constructed for some reason by an advanced civilization. Let's stay here. I'm not on a dogma of all this. I'm open to it, but what I'm saying is I used to believe I have free will. And one of the reasons I never want to know a link, because I don't want them putting ideas directly in my fucking brain.

They already are, bro. Albert Einstein disagrees with that, actually. Bro, they're already doing it. What are you talking about? But I don't know if I have free will now. I'm starting to think that everything, I'm almost a sim character. You're talking to a super opinionated person that believes he's a sim character. You weren't paying attention to all of the subtle manipulations.

that our booking agent was doing when when when we said no they're the big reveal Lisa actually included the scream mask in the initial email and Oh it's simply little little pictures of California and he shut up wearing the shirt and the and the and the hat and not I go his face versus it you're definitely what we were talking about earlier. I want to say something This is a horrific goes this made my career so very but this is a horrific thing what ghost face did but this is what we were talking about earlier about desensitizing. They now put ghost face on a shirt like, hey, have a

Pinoleado with Ghostface. They put Ghost face on pencil cases. Ghost face on like happy, like it's car. This is what you're saying. This is ghost face is crazy. And they make it.

It's weird, right? Yes. It kind of like neutralizes what it was meant to it. Dude, so what you were saying earlier is this. But dude, I'm saying is this. I believe. I believe I believe I'm not an NPC but I do believe that there are more and more evidence I got bad news for you that's your opinion no I got I got Ben no no that's your opinion

no no this is a fact and I also believe in God do you believe in angels and demons yeah okay I got aliens do you believe the demons are aliens they might be yeah okay but I got I got bad news Jamie you're an NPC no I'm not you are it's all my no I'm not I know I'm not I have opinions no people enjoy them You're an NPC. I am, Phil is the only one person who is not an NPC. Who? Ian.

I actually thought that for a lot of years, dude. We are all just NPC characters in the Ian game. So that's my question. Is this the Ian game? Well, yes, but it's also the Jamie game and it's also the Tim game. Like, it is. Right now, are you, this is, that's a question that will break my brain. Are four different realities happening in my reality, I'm getting this, but Ian's

getting one, you're getting, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Do you know about quantum immortality? Yeah, 100,000% So it may actually be that With infinite universes You are the god Or I shouldn't say God

But the avatar of your universe And that your universe follows you It's like an anchor being from Marvel So then how can you Doubt dissimulation theory Well again to clarify The problem of simulation theory is that it removes Advanced Knowledge or I should say

philosophies I describe simulation theory as like A computer nerd atheist discovering the first chapter in a theology book and being like, whoa! Can you guys like elevator pitch the simulation theory? What is it? In like 30 seconds.

Simulation theory is that we live in a simulation of reality that we don't actually... That was created by advanced beings. Okay. That's part of it. No, it doesn't have to be advanced. Bro, who's the guy that sold Minecraft? Nodds?

Yes. Notch. Yeah. So consider simulation theory that we're all a product of a notch character. Indeed. I think it is... But why does that notch character?

Why can't he be a god? The not not because the argument is that Why can't it be an ethereal being? Because the argument is that we uh... it could be an AI A hundred percent that's a very believable theory that's part of simulation theory One component is that a civilization created an AI that simulated their reality for the purpose of a learning school At Harry Potter Academy the point is We create an AI and we tell it simulate a reality where penguins can fly

We want to see what happens. Yes So far with you There's actually a show was it a black mirror episode where the simulation that's all true the simulation is ending and then they were like

we're coming the guy the guy comes and says yes your world is coming to an end and she's like why and he goes we just want to figure out what would happen if penguins existed and we did so it's over

okay so why is that unbelievable here's an example I didn't say that it was unbelievable I said that's you've discovered the first page of a theology book and you're asking me if I believe page one

but I do I'm with you but you're like you're getting too like technical on the description of it. The problem I have with simulation theory is that it's like acting as though boulders don't exist because you saw

a rock. It's like asking me if I believe in igneous rocks. I think that three will and determinism. I'm going to make it local. I'm going to make it local. Right there is a sphere. One of the biggest things I ever talked about in Vegas, the sphere. I flew out of Burbank. Do you know what's

next to Burbank Airport? Not the sphere. It's the sphere tester ground. Oh really? Everything you do. Now, why did they put in Burbank? Because all the best technicians are in Burbank. So everything they're about to do, what do they do? And they learn goods and bads in what?

The Burbank sphere. So that sphere is a simulation of the Burbank sphere. It's a little smaller. It's a little smaller. So there you, there's a, you know what I'm saying? So you think life is a simulation. I'm saying. I practice.

Simulacrum. What I'm saying is, he gets, he's getting so technical on the term where I'm saying is it could have been an AI. It could have been aliens. Now, my highly religion- That's not what I'm saying. My religious friends will say, there's no aliens, they're demons. So it depends on what you believe. I think it's I. What I'm saying is, simulation theory insinuates or starts from the assumption, from the assumption, there's not a God. I didn't know that. Well, I don't believe that. So again, when, when atheists and computer nerds go, what if like some advanced civilization created the world that were, and I go,

stop, that's page one of religion class, bro. Your simulation theory is not new ideas. It's like chemical soup. It's an atheist, secular way of describing what any theologian will tell you from 2000 years ago. I just don't know if there's intelligence behind. If there's sentience is causing the formation of the psychosis, you know, like the chemicals smashing together that are us. Do you believe in evolution? It's getting weird, bro. Do you believe in dinosaurs? Do you think dinosaurs were real? I'm starting to question it. I'm starting to question if this earth isn't a pancake.

Maybe. But let me tell you, when you play GTA, right? I don't play it that much. Nobody built those buildings. No construction crew made those skyscrapers. A programmer clicked buttons and they exist. Now imagine going to someone and telling them

that skyscraper was not built. God made it. They'd be like, yeah, they're nuts. But in our simulations, our simulated realities like GTA, it's actually true. No characters in that game ever built that the coder manifested it into existence. A hundred percent. So if we were in a simulation it's possible nothing was built, everything has always been because the simulation that the creators of reality

made them exist including dinosaur bones. I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with that. But you're wrong about the ripping a pancake. It's a donut. It's round and hollow. That's not wrong. Do you actually believe that? There's a... Okay, hold on. Let's stay. This is where I'm at now. I like this. Do you believe... I'm sorry, flat and hollow.

Do you believe predictive programming? Uh... Do you believe media is just like, hey man, he's just making a cool album and all. That was a good movie. You're talking to a guy that's in the business. Or do you believe that everything is a work? I don't think that everything is wrestling. I don't believe that everything is...

Look, I'll put it like this. This show gets a massive audience and literally no one tells me what to do or say. 1,000%. So some things are... that you believe in predictive programming in popular popular media explain what you mean specifically hints I mean it's got to yes because chaos theory every butterfly programming typically refers to the government is a deep thing

I don't want to lose you or intelligence agencies or special interests will make a movie or show to prime an audience to accept something yes well the CIA is 1,000% deep in Hollywood you know that and we know that the military was helping to promote military games because they wanted military and war to seem fun and cool. 100%. They also wanted to use the figure dexterity training and anti-coordination. There's a game called America's Army literally released to train dudes.

So we're on the same page. Yeah. We're predictively programmed people right now, so what do you want to program everybody with? Well, you can just simply go to music and how they change the frequency of it, all of that stuff. But that's... That's... From 432 to 440... Different megahertz.

Different megahertz. You can look at Mood. You can look at Mood. movies and not all of them are true, but there's a lot of Simpson things that they will say, they're going to say, but there's a lot of that. In the movie, The Terminator, when they're on the bridge scene, and they're going on with the motorcycle, that famous scene, the bridge does nine feet and 11 inches. Yeah. 9-1-1. And that's the emergency call. It's in probably 9-11 is probably 50 pieces of popular media. It's just two numbers. And it's also the number you call

when there's an emergency. If that's what you believe in just, so if you believe the, universe is random. I don't believe the universe is random at all. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. We're built to form. No way. Everything is all connected and for a reason now. I've already learned that you can manifest things if you're the player character so Ian somehow is able to do it but no one else is. If you go online and you start saying this is real and people believe you, if enough people believe you, it just becomes real. Like it happens. Manifestation is 100% real. That's almost a science. Do you believe that? I don't know, maybe

It's as simple as this If I want to build A stronger muscle in my arm I manifest it by thinking it And then going to the gym And doing X amount That's manifestation Okay, that's not surprising

But you can What you're saying is if you think to do something It'll happen No, it's the beginning processes of it But people think manifesting is you sit there And you go mm and it rains No it's not exactly That's not exactly it, but if you're lucky.

Both if you're lucky, I don't know, depending where you are. If you want to work in Hollywood as an actor, I don't suggest you take a job at a Chili's in Detroit. You move to Hollywood and you sign up as an extra and you get on a set. Yes, it is because it starts that way. Manifesting is when you create a vision board and every day you wake up. That's also a part of it.

And like Robbie will be like, I'm trying to find parking by his apartment. He was just manifest a parking space. And I'm like, what do you mean? It's like, if you believe it'll come. And I'm like, bro, come on. You're not helping me find parking, bro. It's not totally like that, but it is a putting the positivity out there.

All I know is this. With YouTube, I was just a guy. And then I started doing YouTube in 06. I got relatively famous, very fast. And it was not just... He loves a drop dead. 06 channel. Because it was early.

But it wasn't just a character in a movie. Like, they saw your movies. They know your character. But they didn't know you yet. Once they know who you really are, then they start to believe you. The things you're saying, then when you say something is real, like, they believe it. And then it starts to have this esoteric effect on reality.

That is manifestation. You're creating a thing, but it's different. I understand what he's saying. He's just saying, like, the whole, like, but that's different. Ian was one of the first people on YouTube. He started a Jamie Kennedy commentary channel where he watched your movies and just commented on them. I was big flaccid for steam. Thank you.

It was hot. I don't know if the words came out exactly. What did you say? Big flaccid. I'm bringing it back. Big flaccid. Yeah, I thought Scream was a great movie, is what I was saying. That movie was actually very...

Dude, the power manifestation is legit. That's why I want to do right now. It's like, okay, yeah, there's a lot of bullshit in the world. But if you say, it's not like you don't want to be disturbed to the point where you say something is real when it's obviously not and it's dangerous for people. But you can change the way people perceive situations, which then lead to their behaviors changing, which lead to different outcomes. I think that me and Tim agree on a lot, but he just gets so locked in the technicality of things like, If you believe that, there's no God. I believe in a God.

I just believe God can be the programmer. If you tell someone you believe in simulation theory, that means something. Okay, I'm open to it. How about that? My point is that when I went to Catholic school growing up, they taught us all of these ideas of simulation theory were like the first thing I learned in kindergarten.

I never remember hearing that at all. I remember the garden and then there was a 100. Actually, the first they said was in the beginning there was nothing in God created life, created dark. He separated the life in the dark. And I said, oh. And so if you think back thousands of years ago, when, even longer perhaps, when they're describing how an all-powerful being manifested reality,

and then someone goes, but what if it was a computer? No one said it wasn't. No. Well, I remember some of that, but I do remember the garden. And there was a million different fruits you can eat. That's substantially different from creation, though. You're not talking about the creation of. Well, all he said is just don't eat the one fruit.

The mushrooms. And of course, what did Eve do? It was an apple. He said, why did you bite the apple? That's the kid's version of it. You have 900,9,000 fruits. Because the snake told her. They blame the snake, dude.

If it was actually a mushroom, why wouldn't they just say the mushroom? Because if you really eat mushrooms, you overthrow the government and they want to control people. You're a free thinker. Oh. Okay. Bro, actually, though, I just got a theory. Thank you for clearing that yesterday. Did you ever see Iron Sky?

Acid. Acid was 100%. Oh, man. Government. Ascent. Manson was part of that. That's like declassified. M.K. Ultra.

Did you ever guys see Iron Sky where the Nazis are actually aliens? You haven't seen this one? No. So the Nazis are aliens that came to Earth. And they, one Nazi, there was an alienate time,

they weren't Nazis yet, injected their immortality elixir. It's got a word or whatever. Into an apple and fed it to his monkeys. He was genetically engineered. and they became humans. Oh, that's another possibility. You guys got to watch is Iron Sky movie.

Yeah, I think that the snake got done dirty in the Bible myth, because they're like... Hitler rides a Tyrannosaurus. So, lady goes out to get the fruit. She's like, I find some mushrooms. I'm going to go feed my... And then it's like, but God said I shouldn't be eating these mushrooms and God's like, it's like, it's my house. And then she's like, and then the snakes like, eat them, and she's like, well, okay, the snake told me to do. She's already probably tripping at this point.

So she brings the mushrooms that gives her Adam. Adam's like, I'll just eat whatever you give me, baby, because you're my wife. He probably should have done diligence. She obviously, blames this, and he's like, where did you get these? He's like, she gave him to me. He's like, where did you get these? She's like, he told me to do it in the snakes.

Like, and it's like, bro, don't put it on the snake. He should have questioned what this food was before he ate it. She should have questioned. No, no, I think the issue is that God should not have punished Adam and Eve because he should have known that the woman doesn't know about her. But they blame the snake. That's my problem with that poor snake, dude. There's a lot of them mad at me for that one.

They ain't great. Listen. Can I tell you just real quick? Like, imagine a story where it's like, a guy invites Ian and his girlfriend into his house. And he's like, yeah, look, I know you guys are on hard times, but my house is big, it's a mansion, it's beautiful. Just, you know, feel free to do your thing.

I've got food. Just please don't eat my golden apples. They're expensive and they're mine. And then I walk in one day, Ian's sitting there with his girlfriend, eating my golden apple. And I'm like, bro, what the fuck? And you're like, what? And he's like, what, Eve gave it to me.

And I'll be like, dude, I don't care who gave it to you. I ask you not to do this. Get out of my house. And she'll be like, but the cat told me to do it. I'm like, oh, okay, I believe that. Get out. That's exactly what happened, dude. That story's wild. Oh, a talking cat. What about the company?

You know it's a talking cat. You made it. That's besides the point. He's your cat. What about the company that wants to recreate the woolly mammoth? I'm into it. I mean, I'm into it. Conceptually, it's got a dangerous, slippery slope, though. That's going to go you know where. Gigantic monsters. Genetic replication of the past. What's the point? You know it would be funny?

Like, you know how we don't know what animals look like based on their skeletons? No. So let me show you for instance. My theory is every dead person is coming back. When they do... With like AI? That's pretty Catholic, isn't it? The way you're...

Yes, I understand. Check us out. Check us out. Like, no, through a lab the way they're doing it. So take a look at this. Is that terra-nactal? That's a bet. Oh my gosh.

Exactly. Imagine like you... Like, if somebody found that skeleton like wire its fingers so long. Because you can't see the fleshy materials. Yeah. So imagine like they're like, we're going to bring back the willy man with it comes out.

It's got like gigantic wings. Or like, just weird body appendages. Like trunks coming out its ass. The rafter apparently had feathers. This is what I'm trying to say, though. You're going over the argument, which you've read. This is predictive programming. Jurassic Park did it.

And now it's happening. So what's the butt? But Jurassic Park was inspired by them doing it. That's the point. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. The company wasn't existing then. No.

So Michael Crichton himself. Michael Crichton's written a lot of things that are predictive programming and so the science about genetic engineering inspired him to write a book what if they did this but the science already existed so for instance in star trek when they conceptualized fast on the light travel with warp drive it's because warp was conceptualized before the show and the show borrowed from it so when now we have scientists saying we can build warp engines that one like star trek no art imitates life imitates art as a hypothesis you're saying what do you mean okay meaning it was genetic engineering was already happening.

In the 90s? Yes. Well before them. Okay. They started in, Madonna was in the 80s. Okay, so did the phone in Star Trek,

I believe it has the M? The M on the phone? So it looks like Motorola. Did Motorola get it from them? Yeah, probably. Okay. But I don't know that that's true. That sounds, that sounds...

You can look up the picture. That sounds like something that was made up by somebody. Ninety-73 is the first trace of genetic engineering by Herbert Boyer and Stanley Cohen. First recombinant DNA experiments by transferring DNA between organisms. See, here's the difference.

I believe... Where's the M? See, that's the Mandela Effect. Well, it goes back to the 1970s. So, hold on. I got one for you guys. I got one for you guys. I'm going to humming a song for you. Jamie, I'm going to hum a song for you.

I want you to sing it. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Na, na, na. Na, na, na, na, na. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da you know it? Yes sing it I can't get that song in one note Do you know those songs, Phil? We talked about this. Oh, okay The words- You know the words? They elude me at the moment

This is the song that never ends No really? What are the lyrics? This is the song that doesn't end. Oh, it is? This is the song that doesn't Give me another one. I don't know that one that well either I learned it that way or someone sang it that way once Bro. Yeah, this is the song that never ends. It sounds familiar. That sounds familiar. Never End sounds better, too.

It does sound better. Bro, I don't believe it for a second. The CIA is doing this to our brains. So wait, do you believe in Mandela Fix? Yes, watch. Oh, good. Watch. It doesn't end.

It goes on. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. What is this? Lambtops sing along. singing it not knowing what it was And they'll continue singing it forever Just because this is the song that does it Yeah, you're right.

Leverin's. You know how I know this is it. They got me. Because when I was a little kid, I watched Lamb Chop. And I remember me and my brother when we were little kids singing this song. I did not watch Lamb Chop ever again.

There was no point of my life where I looked up a video and we always knew it was this is a song that never ends. Because the song it doesn't end even sound good. Wait. Are we on? Hold on. Hold on. This is funny.

I was talking to my wife. And I hummed this song. I said, sing the lyrics. And she goes, this is the song that never ends. I was like, wrong. And she goes, no, it isn't. Those are the words. And I said, nope. And I showed her the video. And she goes, that's fake. And I was like, no, it's not.

And she goes, this is the internet. It's all fake. And then I said, I'll show you another video from, like, PBS. And she goes, I don't believe that. I think they put fake things on the internet. And I was like, so you think it's more likely that somebody put up a bunch of fake videos where they AI altered the lyrics of the lyrics of the, of the song, then you just got the lyrics wrong.

She goes, yes, because we used to say this. And I was like, yeah, I actually agree. I know for a fact, this song was that never ends. Fight me. Yeah, that's a dead internet theory. So do you believe... No, that's not dead internet theory. Okay, that's a different theory.

But I'm with you. So you believe in the Mandela effects. No, what I believe is that the internet is being manipulated. So here's the point. I can... So you know what I said I was going to do? As a joke, I was like, here's what I'll do. I'm gonna AI generate.

This is the song that will not end. And then I'm gonna upload a bunch of AI versions just like this. And I'm gonna be like, don't you remember the lyrics? This is the song that doesn't end? Wrong. It's will not. And then I'll play the AI version and people will go, whoa, Mandela effect. My point is it's really easy to take a clip from the old show,

which is not VHS, it's not an original broadcast. Change the lyrics in it, upload it, and then freak people out. So what do you believe the truth is? That? I don't know what the truth. You think we're being manipulated? All I know is those are not the words. Okay, so you...

Bro, I was marching as a little kid in my living room singing that song. There's so many Mandela effects that are... Some of them are fake and they annoy me. Like the Wonka, you see the Wonka Whoopi Pie one? No. I'm so annoyed. Oh, I don't know the movie enough. They said it was a chocolate pie and it wasn't...

His family buys him a pie. He doesn't get a ticket. Then Grandpa sneaks him a chocolate because he wasn't supposed to buy it and he doesn't win. Charlie then goes out and he finds a coin and buys a scrum to the Umpchus bar and he gets a ticket. And he goes, I found the ticket. He goes, run home, run home. And then he runs home. But now people are, because they haven't seen the movie in so long, they're like, what's this?

It's like, go watch the movie. It's in the movie. It's on a Mandela effect. Oh. I do remember the Wolfie Pie in the movie. Oh, there are versions of it from Cartoon Planet where they say never ends. Bro, I watched this show as a kid on PBS. And the original was Dozen End and then Animaniacs used it.

And then a show called Cartoon Planet used it, a parodyed it. And it may have used the word never. Except I watched it. this show. I watched Lamb Chop as a kid. Well, I think there's something and I'm going against my own conspiracy here, like revved

up like a douche. What? Reveed up like a douche on the night. Remember? Yeah. Ror up like a douche. I thought it was a douche until like two hours ago. I thought, I still think it is. I think it's revved up like a deuce. Obviously, yeah. No, it's not obvious.

It's not. Who would have said douche in the right mind? No one knew what it was saying. Like a douche on. I don't even know what that means. It's from a song, Bladed by the Light. What is revved up by a, like a deuce engine. Yeah.

So, but what I'm saying is there are things that we don't know. The Shazan thing is stupid. I remember I sounds a lot of times instead of words. Well, he was in Kazam. No, he wasn't. That was Shaquille.

Sinbad? No, Shaquil was in Kazam. Right. The Mandela effect is that Sinbad was Shazam. Well, there's somebody that says they have the tape. That's not real. Somebody misremembered, you know, In the

What I'm saying is something can get popular wrongly in the zeitguess and we can misremember it together, but I also do think there's also things that are just crazy. Like the fruit of the loom thing, I'm pretty sure there was fruit there. And they're saying there is it. The cornucopia had fruit. The monocle. The jiffy thing is just people confusing Jiff and Skippy. Yes. That could be true. Because I had Jif. All my family, I love, I hate Skippy and I love Jiff. Jiffy was popcorn. I would always be like, I don't want Skippy, I want Jiff. Chick-fil-A. Then there's Jiffie Pop. What about it? C-H-I-C-K. C-K. Obviously? What do you mean?

I think it's a K. I didn't grow up around Chick-fil-A, though, so I don't have it. Yeah, I do you think it's the chick-H-I-C? Okay. Is it? Fruit-I-C-C-K? Fruit-Loops? Fruit-Loops?

Is it two O's? Fruit-Loo-Loo-O's? Two O's, yeah. Fruit of the loom. I don't remember. No, Fruit Loops is Fruit-Loop, and I think it was fruit loops, and I think it was fruit loops. Those are two different things.

As opposed to what? What? You do this show, you become fruit foods. You're really drilling at home, I think it was O-O-O, but I think now it's U-I. Oh, you're saying F-R-O-O-T? Yeah. Oh. It is fruit with two-Os.

Here's another one. I think it used to be the other way. Here's another one. We are the champions. People are like, we are the champions, that's it. It's supposed to be of the world. And they're like, but isn't it supposed to be of the world at the end? And so in the song ends, they just said, we are the champions in it.

right? It's because there was an edit that was in a movie that they edited the song to have Freddie Mercury say, Of the World is it fades out and then a lot of people heard that song, I think it was Mighty Ducks or something And it was an edited version and now people are like but wait, why does the album version not have this? Because they're different versions of it That's crazy. That's crazy. So we are right to say of the world because that's how it's the only way I've ever heard it So that is correct the original version didn't say of the world Yeah, but that you had to be a super music had to know that No. The pop culture version. It wasn't on the radio or anything? Pop culture version always had Of the World.

No. The one from the movie, you mean? There was a special release at the end of like Mighty Ducks or something that they says of the world and it fades out. Yeah, man, when someone covers a song and then they're like, you find the original artists. You're telling me that the non of the world was the popular one? Was the original, yeah, on the radio and stuff.

I'm saying that Garth and Wayne Maybe. Maybe you have a movie in a world I'm saying I'm of the world That's the way I always heard we are the champions of the world It's not a great movie and stuff like that yeah but I never even seen mighty dogs My whatever movies it was in I had edited version and people remember it from that and they they miss so it was the more popular version

I would argue that that was the one that was played in the public more than the one you're saying on the album Yeah that makes sense that on the radio and stuff it didn't say of the work But when they when they thought it did oh and it live ate in 85 yeah that's right Freddie Mercury did it live and added of the world at the end of the song right so those additions that's a big one gets played in there at least there's some real world of the world it should journey in their original don't stop believe and ended it like don't stop and it was super cheap so they fixed they fixed it just faded out now and that before take on me was released it was originally like a slower boring

version that no one liked really yeah yeah that's that Tom Hanks movie they did that in the Tom Hanks movie. They had a real boring kind of ballad that then the drummer decided to... We're going to grab Rumble Ants and Super Chats. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone in your life. And just remember, your memory is fallible. It changes. It's like warpable. Just remember. Joey Giggle

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Vacant stairs is, I got 10 years, ICU and ER experience. I worked major mass shooting, seen plenty of gunshot wounds. First, bullets are weird, too. You can get ROSC on fluid MTP patients and they still die. Idiots talk without knowledge or experience. They're motivated. It's all motivated reasoning. Spruce cards, as apparently Twiggs said in his video testimony that he never discussed gender issues or Kirk what are the odds that this is true? It's maybe I don't know All right, let's see. Graham says Tim will not read this What the inventor of the super soaker created a device that can use heat exchange for power generation using inner hydrogen gas electron exchange and it has a cooling effect. Hey fun how fun needo

Meatho says Ian can't change the weather though Ian should not change the weather with his mind yeah you make it rain right now it's 110 yeah come on actually me that moisture did you guys see after the fireworks in Vegas that the next day was super cloudy. Change the subject. We changed the weather with machines that day, but, you know, you might also have been involved in it, Phil, actually. All right.

Because your body has a magnetic field. The earth has a magnetic field. People like Phil who claim therapy is for girls, think about Jordan Peterson or Dr. K. Also, how do we get Tim and Candice to sit and have a debate? Candice won't debate anybody. Brian Atlas offered us $70,000. Dr. Peterson is a clinical psychologist, not a therapist. And who's Dr. Kay? I don't know.

Therapy is for girls. See, here's the point. Therapy describes a known practice. If you wanted to use the root word therapy as in a social practice that someone can engage in to help improve mental health, then men can get therapy. It's called lifting heavy rocks and going to the gym. Women need social validation by being talked to. This is why there's a trope of women complaining about something. and when the guy offers a solution,

she just wants to keep complaining because what she's looking for is social validation for her feelings. I'm not saying that derisively, but women get mad when you bring that up. When men feel bad, they should do 10 push-ups. If you're ever feeling depressed,

do 10 push-ups, do 50. Get some sunlight. Get sunlight and do push-ups. Guys, the therapy guys need is not sitting down and talking about their feelings. It's working through these things. It's some kind of active dopamine stimulation.

Go for a run, accomplish something, better. Indeed. Yeah, it's good to know what your problems are, but you got to fix them. Quantum Strange Quarks says tomorrow is my 64th birthday. I need a Phil yell.

Yeah! Happy birthday. The excessive gamer says paying money to say that those saying it was not Tyler Robinson are either paid accounts or completely delusional. Either way, they should be ignored. Let's go.

It's just so silly, man. But you know what the thing is? Like, I was just at the World Series. There's tens of thousands of people playing. They had 9,200 in the main, but they had 8,000 something in the ultra-stack. Robbie did really well.

He made it to, like, out of 8,000, that's 100, 120th or whatever. He was mad at himself, because he probably went further. Oh, really? Okay, it was just over and. No, he's just, he's just mad that, like, frustrated. He's like, I should afford it. $4,000.

Right? But there's a lot of people there, and guess what no one is talking about? Wack-a-loon conspiracy, Jutart stuff. Like, it's just not. happening. Life is about making money, baby. Acquiring Resources protect Dan Bolzarian was there.

Was he? Yeah, and he busted on day one, I think, and I had a dealer who was dealing to him, and he said that he was like really nice, but he was asking a lot of people questions about things like this, and just generally talking about it, and I was like, oh yeah, he talked about the Jews, and the guy made a face, and then some guy goes, but it's not the Jews. He's not talking about the Jews. He's talking about the Jews.

He's talking about the Jews. He's talking about the Jews. He's definitely talking about the Jews. He's definitely talking about the Jews. You mean, like, when he puts down his straight, And he goes, so the Jews. He's like, You're doing that a poker game? When you get busted out of, the Jews did it? Yeah.

All right, one more before we go to that uncensored portion. Sergeant Stoic says, my sim theory, our consciousness need to be transported into these human bodies, all real but made trillions of years ago in order to keep our minds active in cryosleep. I mean... Oh, I wrote a book, by the way. Would you write? Good.

It's called The Last City. When you write it? It's being a week ago. It took you a week? No, it took me about an hour. AI? Yeah, so what I did was, there's a story that I talked about on the show

that people have heard. So I just went into Claude and I laid out the story beats. Then it kicked me back, you know, some queries. I hammered out the finer points of the story, which took about five minutes. Then I said, now give me a chapter treatment.

It drafted a bunch of chapter treatment character lists. I said, refine the characters in this way. Then it gave me a new character list. I said, change their names in this way. then I explained some story beats and I said like underlying the last city would be a Christian tradition

because these are people who refuse to go into the matrix into the machine into the neural ink so then it changed the structures changed the factions then I drafted another chapter treatment then I went through each chapter and said change this so this happens and then it rewrites it because it creates a cascade effect

and then I went through each chapter and then took about two hours I probably wrote about 5,000 words of direction not actual story And then it wrote the full book to which I gave to Chris Carr and said do you want to read through this and turn it into a human story Like this capture awesome it captured all of my ideas Now it needs a human to read through it and fix it to make it an actual human So it's basically the way describe it is instead of writing out each manual word you have this tangled yarn

And I like weaved this yarn out and it's all tangled up and now Chris is gonna comb through it and turn into an actual book So good that's the way he's and he's a writer and editor. He's really good at it so And he's like, we gotta fix some things. I just wanna see waves of zombies attack the last city, like periodically once a month of the blood moon or something. I know, there should be some outs, there should be some threat, there's this game of the last spell that's like that.

So here's the story. Here's the gist of the story. There's one city left. They don't know why humanity collapsed or everything's gone. Just a couple hundred years after, like, news records dry up. It turns out humans adopted Norlink

and decided to live in facilities underground, climate control, easier to climate control, where they live in a digital reality, where they want for nothing and so they they choose to go into a matrix and then but maintenance has to periodically be done on these facilities which result in a growing last city of the you know largely Christians who refused to to adopt these technologies who lived in rural areas eventually form a large city and then it comes to a clash between what you know that the the argument so the name for

the last city calls the people in the matrix the continuation that civilization continued and they didn't know And the theme on the book is that the general religion of the city is that they believe they're the descendants of those who are left behind after the rapture because their their ancestors were sinners. And then they come to learn. And in fact, they're the true faithful. And the sinners went to go live in a fake paradise created by man and which leads to conflict. Actually, for the most part, the story is not about the conflict between humans living in the Matrix Pots and the Last City. It's mostly about the politic ramifications of the last city's choices when they come to learn that in fact they were truly faithful and

Humans are basically like gaunt vampire-looking creatures with like thin skin living in pods and then the culmination of the book however is conflict between the two groups So you wrote a futuristic documentary Indeed we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show smash the like button show with everyone you've ever ever known ever known go in your go do a mass text all 10,000 contacts and you can follow me on X and Instagram Instagram at Timcast. Jamie, don't want to shout anything out? Watch my podcast. I hate to break it to you. It comes out on YouTube every Wednesday at 1 o'clock, and then my Patreon

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