Timcast IRL - Clay Travis Uncensored: Venezuelan Migrants Take Over CHicago Apartments, Gangs Aint Playin
Episode Date: September 8, 2024Tim & Co join Clay Travis for a spicy bonus segment usually only available on Timcast.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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The first thing we have to do is this.
You know this song?
Yes.
1987, according to this.
I love learning about culture for you guys.
I think I grew up Amish. I never heard
them.
Just need the chorus.
I'd see them fight. And you know Bizarre Love Triangle too, right? I think so. Oh, good.
I think, look, I am, when the music plays, I'm more likely to recognize stuff.
I'm awful on song names, on bands.
All right.
We went to break.
Oh, yeah.
This song is really, yes.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is like, yes oh yeah this is like oh yeah her youth right now it is yeah i know all
the words to all of these songs anyway so migrants are taking over apartments in chicago can i just
say every like i used to go to this all ages club in philadelphia called revival uh shout out to
anyone who went there.
And we would go like every week and they would play these tracks and we would just – there was like – there's a whole dance to that one.
Do they still do all-ages shows now?
Well, these weren't shows.
This was like an all-ages club.
That's what I'm saying. Like I remember when I was a kid, we'd have teen night.
Do you guys remember this?
Like where you had to be a teenager and then they would sometimes mark you.
I went to school in D.C.
We'd go to the 930 Club, and they would mark your hand.
But you had to be 18 to get in.
My friends in college from D.C. were like,
oh, you should have come down and we'll go to the 930 Club
and the Black Cat or something like that.
930 Club, yes.
I don't remember the other one, but I remember 930 Club.
I don't know if the 930 Club remember 930 club all that I don't know
you know what it felt like for me I used to go to the track I used to play I used to play video
games all the time when I was a kid right and so what it felt like to me was because I played World
of Warcraft when uh I was a teenager and I was playing music anywhere I could cafes mostly
most of the things I'd go to had to be all ages. So no drinking, none of that.
And it was usually then just
going to be other teenagers.
Anybody over 21 wasn't there.
Then I turned 21
and I could go to bars all of a sudden.
And so when I was looking for various open mic nights,
all of a sudden it was,
I had this little area and then it went
like an explosion.
The whole universe opened up.
It felt like for those that play World of Warcraft, when you reach the end game or not when you reach it, not the end game, but when you level up high enough to leave the beginning
zone and can go anywhere.
And then in the beginning zones, everyone's low level.
But as soon as you get like to level 10 and you go to the next zone, everyone's like,
there's a level 60 guy and a level 40 guy.
That's what it felt like.
It was crazy.
For the first time, I went to a bar to play, and there were 21-year-olds, 30-year-olds, 40-year-olds, 50-year-olds, 60.
There was a 70-year-old guy drinking, and I was like, this is not how it was the whole time I was playing shows.
It was kind of wild.
I remember going.
She actually now is, I think, famous.
There was a girl in our class, I went to a small high school in Nashville,
that would play at the local pizza place.
And we would all go and watch her.
We were teenagers, but it was like a teenage show.
And we thought she was pretty good, but you're in Nashville or whatever.
And now she's a professional musician um carrie
hurst carrie ann hurst you can look her up um and she's a part of a band and she's super successful
now but i just remember think uh carrie like c-a-r-r-i-e-n-a-n-n i don't know if there's an e
hurst h-e-a-r-s-t She's wrote like, but so she was in my graduating class.
There's like 130 of us.
And it's still kind of staggering to me to think
like we'd go to Guido's Pizza and play for eight people.
And then that turns into this.
And that to me is always the great thing about music
is not when you can sell out a whole stadium or a whole arena,
but thinking about beginning at that infancy
when only five or six people are coming and they all know you well.
Same thing for stand-up comedy and all those things.
You ask people those stories.
I actually am far more interested in that than selling out the stadium.
What was the worst gig you ever had?
Your Wikipedia is bigger than hers, though. I don't't know there's probably a lot more negativity in my wikipedia
hers is just very simple she had you know she made it the real question is which one of you
gets to give the the high school graduation speech first i gave i gave a commencement address like
eight years ago but it was when i was doing yeah but it was when I was doing, yeah, but it was when I was still sports. I don't think they wouldn't let me do it now. You're not going to come back? No, I don't even
know. I don't think they would, I don't think they would allow me to like, I don't think they
would allow me to speak to anybody in my high school now. I've thought about that too. I'm
pretty sure that, I mean, I've seen others of my graduating class. There's a lot of successful
people from my class. Like Was your school a large school?
No, it was a little private school in Philadelphia.
And I've seen people, you know.
And I just kind of feel like they would not talk to me.
Well, let's talk about migrants taking over this building in Chicago.
There's a couple 911 reports that are going out, recordings, where they say 32 Venezuelans with guns trespassing in buildings.
Then you had this video of this black dude in Chicago being like, don't fuck around. They say 32 Venezuelans with guns trespassing in buildings.
Then you had this video of this black dude in Chicago being like, don't fuck around.
Don't bring that bullshit.
And he was like, it's just like where you come from.
But you got guns.
You got knives.
We got switches.
You guys know what switches are?
Switch blades?
No, it's when they put an auto sear on a Glock with an extended mag so the handgun goes.
That's a lot more dangerous than a switchblade.
Yep.
Yep.
So I don't know.
Well, I just want to commend Kamala Harris on the tremendous job she's done with the border.
She's obviously doing everything she can to make America safe.
And she's really, you know, doing good things for the city of Chicago, where she had her tremendously successful DNC. No, obviously, it's it's it's ridiculous. I mean,
I think one of the problems is that the Biden administration is so bad on immigration that there are pathways for certain countries, especially Haiti, Cuba and Venezuela to send
people in. Nicaragua is one of them. And so we have the problem of illegal immigration, which is obviously the open border.
Visa overstays, things like that.
But then you also have the Biden administration trying to posture as this like we're empathetic to people who need asylum and whatever else without really having an effective system in place to process those applications.
So instead, we just kind of get the worst of everything, which is cities struggling with increasing crime. It's going to be wild when the gangs team up with the police to fight
the migrants. That's insane. Yeah. So the alderman, Jeanette Taylor of the 20th District,
apparently said that these reports are not true and that when the police showed up,
there was nobody there. Do you believe question i don't know the same allegations are
going around about denver right aurora aurora colorado um what i would say is how would it
not be occurring and let me kind of dive in reverse what you're saying who is overwhelmingly
the most likely people to commit crimes men 16, 16 to 40 years old, right?
Around the world, if you were pointing and saying like,
hey, who is most likely to commit a crime?
Male, 16 to 40.
Who is coming into the country?
Overwhelmingly, men, 16 to 40.
So it stands to reason that what the rates of crime are, we don't know, but there are massive
millions of people, 16 to 40, who are coming into this country that are committing crimes here,
just like they would be committing crimes in Venezuela. And that has nothing to do with
whether they got let out of a prison or anything else. It's just a raw numbers thing. If we were only getting women 16 to 40 who were illegally entering the country, the country
would probably be a lot safer because women 16 to 40 don't commit that many crimes.
It would be different.
Right?
I mean, and the culture would be different associated with that.
I always like to say no woman's ever final two words in her life were ever watch this.
Every guy, every guy on earth has got a buddy.
And if it wasn't you, it was, it was,
it was one of your buddies that said,
watch this and did something so insanely stupid that you can't believe he's
still alive.
Yeah.
And again,
it's because guys are trying to impress girls and taking and making irrational decisions.
And so all of this makes sense to me that there would be way higher rates of crime because those are the people who are coming in.
And men and women function differently.
I mean, their brains are wired to evaluate danger differently, to seek out different kinds of social rewards.
I think you're absolutely right.
It does have to do with the fact that it's men who are crossing the border. And really, again, when you talk about these things, people are sort of
discouraged from evaluating that. Like when you get the reports, you know, it's military age men
entering the border and that sort of gets dismissed by mainstream media as being like,
oh, they're just coming up with a conspiracy theory about what's going on. Really,
the consequences of who comes into the country matter. I got one for you.
Man.
Instant fun.
Lucky bastard. Huh.
Glass.
Foreply.
Bulletproof.
Bullshit.
All right. Bullshit. What are you doing?
Oh, that's not smart.
Walking the dog.
No, no, no, no, no, no!
He runs out the window, you know, to prove it was Shatterfield.
Holy shit!
Turns out it wasn't.
Everybody's gotta have a ho-
So that's a true story, actually.
Let me see if I can pull this up.
But every guy sees that.
They're like, yeah, I can see somebody doing that.
Death of Gary Hoy, Canadian lawyer. He was talking to some students. pull this up but every guy sees that they're like yeah i can see somebody doing that death of gary
hoy canadian lawyer he was uh talking to some students and he was trying to claim that the
window couldn't break so he ran and jumped into it and then it popped off of the frame and he fell
to his death yeah that's not good and that you're a guy does that surprise you that a guy would do
that no of course not like yeah i can see somebody decided to do that, you're a guy. Does that surprise you that a guy would do that? No, of course not.
Like, yeah, I can see somebody deciding to do that,
especially if they had a couple of drinks and they were sitting around making irrational decisions.
And that to me is like,
all of this is just incentive.
Imagine if you were poor
and your friend called
and he said, hey, I just got to New York City,
place that you've seen on television your whole life.
And he said, they gave me a hotel room.
They're giving me meals.
And we have Wi-Fi here.
And you lived in a shithole Venezuelan hovel.
Wouldn't you try to come to America too?
I mean.
If there's no disincentive, right?
Correct. What is the disincentive? And then by the way, if you have a baby, your kid becomes
a citizen and you basically get to stay in America for the rest of your life. If most
Americans could make 10X our salaries in Canada, a lot of Americans would try to go to Canada.
Yeah. I mean, it's just incentive, economic and then you know citizenship i i think which is broken i think birthright citizenship is is a big uh carrot to
cross the border and it does not help america i was listening to this report from npr and this
is like three years ago at this point but they were talking to a young uh illegal immigrant
girl she was like i think she might have been 17 she might have this might have
been a report on the dreamers let's say 17 to 19 and they were interviewing her she was like
taking classes at a high school trying to you know do some english stuff but she specifically
talked about the fact that she was pregnant and even though her boyfriend in i think it was
venezuela but i could be wrong it was definitely South America, begged her to stay so that he could be in his child's life.
She was like, no, like my family's going to America.
And I think that's going to work out for me better long term.
Like she wanted her kid to be an American citizen so that her whole family could stay in America.
Like this is a crazy thing to offer people who and I totally empathize with that.
Some people are in desperate situations and want better.
But other people are like, but America has McDonald's and Wi-Fi.
So that could be better than what we're doing right now.
Yeah, for sure.
I researched it because I was fascinated.
Why did birthright citizenship start?
Slavery.
Partly slavery.
That's a good argument.
But actually colonization, the way that they would encourage Europeans to be willing to go to the New World was your kids will still be citizens of the country.
So like in 1640, if you got on a boat to go to America and you were British, they would say your kids can always come back.
And so if you study it, it doesn't exist in China,
certainly isn't doing birthright citizenship,
or Japan, or most European countries now.
Most places don't have it.
But it's a legacy, which is funny
because everybody's like,
the colonization era is completely unacceptable.
Birthright citizenship was fueled to a large degree
by the colonization of the New World.
But the reason we have it enshrined in law
is because after the end of the civil war we said that how do we determine which of the slaves are
citizens anybody was born here yeah and that was a fucking mistake well birthright by land is super
rare if you actually look by soil is actually super rare and i think we should have a more
serious conversation in this country
about ending it, frankly, because I think you would change much of the incentive. You can't
change that somebody is going to make way more money to work illegally here than they would in
their other country. But if you layer that on top of what you were just talking about, which is your
kids become citizens as well, then you're providing a double incentive structure and back
in the day the people who crossed illegally to a large extent left and would go back right you
would go back and forth depending on the season nobody's going all the way back to brazil or
those other countries the only countries that do have unrestricted birthright citizenship are in
north and south america and canada and the united citizenship are in North and South America.
And Canada and the United States are on there.
And then the rest are like Argentina, Barbados, Belize, Guyana, Guatemala, Honduras.
The reason they're doing it right now, it's really simple.
You see the job numbers from last quarter?
Yeah. They revised down, what, like 800, 900,000?
Yeah, 818,000.
Okay.
We don't have enough people.
Replacement rate, fertility rates are below replacement.
Yeah.
So those job numbers are going to keep going down unless they bring in migrants.
By the way, this is why I'm telling all three of my boys, have as many kids as you can.
I'm obsessed with the idea that we're just, because people have gotten so selfish,
that we're just going to do away with the human population
because people are like, hey, I'd rather keep having
brat summers for the rest of my life.
I just don't want the responsibility of having children.
We should all be extra nice to our friends
who have the third kid because that puts them above the place.
I had three.
I wish I had more, but yeah.
It's good news.
The liberals are excising themselves in the gym.
It's totally true.
They are.
There you go.
I mean, that's a positive, but I guess.
That's a positive, but I think generally, you know, unless everyone gets serious about it,
the collapsing birth rate is a huge threat to the country.
And it's not just America.
A lot of countries are struggling with this.
And you'll see, especially in Eastern Europe, countries trying to incentivize people to
have more children through tax credits, through cultural changes, by trying to get it so,
you know, you could have a grandparent receive money from the government to stay home with
the grandchildren to offset the cost of child care.
But it's one of the things that has emerged from the, I think, especially from J.D.
Vance entering the ticket, that the Trump-Vance ticket is really starting to say,
like, we are a pro-family ticket. And not just in the lip service way that Kamala Harris is offering,
but like, we have families, we have children, we have grandchildren, we want them to thrive,
we want to see them go forward with momentum behind them. What I just find incredibly sad is,
I went to Italy. The culture is amazing. The population is collapsing.
I want to go to Japan.
I've heard it's an incredible place to visit.
It's on my list.
Yeah, they have whack-off stores.
I'm definitely going now.
They have a chain of buildings where you can go to masturbate.
It's called culture, Libby.
People have homes.
When you go in, there's a clerk and you can buy
used women's underwear.
You can buy
cum-stained towels
or toys.
That is nauseating.
And there are some rooms
where they have cameras
turned on
so that the people
and them know
they're being watched
because they get off to it.
Who watches?
Whoever walks in the store
and wants to watch.
It's like the worst
fucking job ever.
Yeah, that's a pretty bad job.
I mean, you must want
to have the job, I guess.
They have a five-story sex shop. Japanese people are fucking weird. I'm allowed to say that because a pretty bad job. I mean, you must want to have the job, I guess. They have a five-story sex shop.
You know, Japanese people are fucking weird.
I'm allowed to say that because I'm part Japanese.
Yeah, so you get to say it.
I would like, I would, but the culture, unfortunately, is collapsing, I guess because they're jerking
off too much and not having enough actual sex.
It's actually true.
They're not having kids.
They're doing, they, so, look, man, you ever see these videos of how Japan's living in
the, like, the 30th century?
Yeah, yeah.
The joke is, they're, the toilets refill and the water comes out to wash your hands.
We don't really do that here.
We actually have one of the space age toilets.
I didn't even know how to use it.
They were like, you use the toilet based on the buttons on the wall.
And I was like, this is way too complicated for me.
Heats your ass, cleans your ass, blows on your ass, all that good stuff.
And in Japan, they've been doing that forever.
So in Japan, they have like when you open their yogurt, you can slide the wrapper out from the side or whatever, and it leaves a spoon.
It's just the weirdest little things.
Little tiny perfect conveniences.
Right.
And so they've been ahead of the game. But this also means that when it comes to the weird fucked up AI shit and the porn that's that's ruining people's brains,
they've been on the forefront of the freakiest, weirdest shit ever. I look at so they have a
culture of dudes locking themselves in the room and whacking off. Yeah, the Hikamori. I have
the Hikamori. Yeah, there you go. The I keep getting this ad on Instagram for an AI boyfriend.
And every time I see it, like it sort of turns my stomach.
The idea is that you don't have a boyfriend.
And so you have an app where you like.
We've pulled this up on the show before.
Yeah.
You can design them.
It's so disgusting and horrifying.
What does he do?
And he's so rude that they're targeting me with this.
And he's so rude that they're targeting me with this.
Is that like, I'm getting this on my Instagram.
Oh, here you go.
Check this one out.
Why am I getting this?
Look at this.
I Google searched it. And the first one, the woman's bound
and gagged. What the fuck? How's she gonna
text you if her hands are
behind her back? Be practical here.
I will be honest on this Instagram
thing. You know, you go in
the number of fake chicks
that they have created
now on Instagram. There's a lot of fake things,
right? Lazy, slo things right sloven how do you
slovenly yeah there we go uh leftist oh no how do i how do i make it go generate oh oh new character
that's not girlfriend way too good looking we don't oh what the fuck is that
whoa look at this it's the same woman but they just made her fact that you have to be real and anime. Whoa, look at this. It's the same woman, but they just made her.
Different races.
She's got to be white.
Barely.
No.
Why?
She's got to be a millennial.
I don't care what color her eyes are, dude.
Straight, curly, whatever, man.
Short hair.
These are things that.
Oh, it's got to be purple.
Purple, yeah.
That's thick.
There you go.
Huge. This is horrible. What the fuck? This be purple. Purple, yeah. Thick. There you go. Huge.
This is horrible.
This is terrifying.
I hate this.
Want her to be nympho or dominant?
Unhinged.
Unhinged.
Egomaniac.
Non-binary.
Put in non-binary.
Gender fluid.
I don't think you can.
I already chose girlfriend.
Yeah, but girlfriend could be non-binary.
She could be she-they.
Hey, babe, hope you're all good.
I'm excited to meet you. That's an old woman. she, they. Hey, babe, hope you're all good. I'm excited to meet you.
That's an old woman.
That's grandma.
Hey, babe, hope you're all good.
I'm excited to meet you.
That's grandma.
That's creepy.
This is terrifying.
Hey, babe, hope you're all good.
I'm excited.
Who was that?
Hey, babe, hope you're all good.
I'm excited to meet you.
Why are they all old?
Hey, babe, hope you're all good.
I'm excited to meet you.
Is this French?
Hey, babe, hope you're all good. I excited to meet you Is this French? Hey babe, hope you're all good
I'm excited to meet you
They all sound really old
They sound very old
They all sound like they're in their 40s or 50s
Hope you're all good
Scientist
No, no, it's gotta be something dumb
She's a teacher
Oh, there you go
Not a stylist
Oh, you get to. Not a stylist.
And she's in a theater. Oh, you get to give her hobbies.
How nice.
Theater and blogging.
Oh, no.
No, yeah.
Type of girl name.
Well, she renamed herself Ziza or whatever.
No, no.
She's going to name herself something stupid like a non-binary name like Mekis.
Or like Alex with an I.
Creating your girlfriend.
How terrible. I wanted the fat leftist.
I hate this.
Honestly, I don't know where this is going to go, meaning like in the future.
Haptic feedback.
Lock yourself in the pod.
Haptic feedback.
No.
You know what?
We got here from a collapsing birth rate conversation.
I just want all of you to realize that.
That's not awful.
Why is it making her like 50?
Why doesn't she have any clothes on?
Did you like how she looks?
Let's go back to the generator.
Choose a character.
Create new.
You see, okay, that's the problem, right?
Do existing characters.
Oh, I see.
Okay, the bound and gagged one.
The bound and gagged one. The bound and gagged
one.
I wanted to make a... Here you go.
Can we make her fatter?
Her name's Riley. Alright.
Riley. And then we'll say
what would you like to see? Fat?
Lazy?
Slavenly?
Terrible. I hate it. Disgusting.
Eating food.
Antifa. Alright right there you go and uh generate oh you got too many now it won't let me do it oh well well there you go oh wait
wait wait wait what happened to the what happened to the old lady that i just made. Big tittied anime girl. Oh, super.
This is so nuts.
And that it could be anime.
I'm sorry.
I do every year.
Have you ever noticed
Pornhub will release
the most sought after,
like it's like power rankings.
I always think that's interesting.
It's like, oh, this is hysterical.
No, they put out a thing
of like most searched for content.
And it'll be like most popular,
like lesbians had a good year.
You know, like they searched to number three from number eight.
Google does the same thing.
They'll put out the most search terms per state.
Yes, they do.
But the amount of like, I don't even sure what it's called, like animated porn that people search for on Pornhub.
Is that a lot?
It's skyrocketing in popularity.
That's weird.
What kind of porn?
Like anime.
But look at this.
That's what I'm saying.
They have tons of these girls.
When you go to create a character, it asks if you want an anime girl.
That's what I'm saying.
So it's become wildly popular.
Imagine you go to Pornhub and you want to look at cartoon porn.
It's really weird to me.
That's weird, right? Like, it's really weird to me.
That's weird, right?
Right?
It's like...
I think that's bizarre.
Porn has, like, all kinds of cultural and psychological challenges, right?
But then to add the level of, like, and now I don't actually even want it to be a real person.
Correct.
That's the thing.
Like, and who are the people that are like, hey, I'm not really into actually naked women.
Because I remember when you would, like 14 year old boy spent spent years of
his life trying to get a playboy magazine back in the day to see actual women to meet you hey babe
and now they just look at cartoon porn that is not Australian very strange it's like even more
removed than just correct yeah and it's like now you definitely won't know what to do with a
girlfriend well do
you remember when all the feminists were like porn makes these unrealistic body expectations
for women right like it's fake anime is worse anime is so much worse but that and it's surging
it's surging in popularity that is full bazillion what does it say about, like I think about this all the time, we're not having kids, but also
kids don't really
meet up like they used to.
Well, there's nowhere for them to go. We've destroyed those
third spaces.
So this is... Like there are no
like... By the way,
you did well. This is like, I was
expecting it not to be good. Like this is a
very attractive AI
girlfriend. Yeah, and look at her hands melted together in the accident.
That's her name.
She has to put her arms around you like that.
Do you want to read her name?
I know.
Skankus.
But, like, this is how she'd have to put her arms around you.
Her hands are fused.
By the way, you'd think this is crazy, but these AI girls now on OnlyFans have tons of dudes subscribing.
Did you see the story?
But they're dudes, right?
They're dudes doing this.
I don't think women are on OnlyFans subscribing to male content.
No, what I'm saying is-
Guys are making-
The girl.
Oh, yes, correct.
Did you see the two women who put dildos in their underwear and then acted like they were trans?
That was really funny.
And now the trans people are offended.
You're appropriating my culture.
Oh, look at your fucking nipple.
What the fuck?
It's like definitely in the wrong place.
That's definitely wrong.
I do not recommend this service.
Not because of how bad it is, but because you need to go find a real life partner.
Mate, whatever you want to call it.
Let's go to callers.
We're going to start with Adorable
Deplorable. Welcome to the program.
I hope you're grossed out already.
This is completely different. What is this? Skankus.
Skankus is her name.
Skankus is
not my name. I changed my name
to Deplorable
because last time you couldn't read my name
correctly. I'm not calling you Skankus.
I'm calling Skankus Skankus.
It was talking about his AI-generated girlfriend.
Come on.
I was listening, but it cut out.
Look at her hand.
The AI can't make hands.
What a beautiful lady.
Yeah, the AI can't make hands
just like those Israel-Gaza pictures
when the doctor's gloves had extra fingers.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So how's it going?
It's going great.
I just wanted to ask Tim, how was your Cybertruck?
Did you take it out for a spin?
It's basically all I used to get around.
It's comfortable because it's big.
So when you're getting in, you just sit down,
whereas with my Honda, you have to crouch down and then slide in.
You like it?
My boys love the Cybertruck.
Oh, it's fun.
Yeah, the problem is people pulling up and touching it and taking pictures of it.
I went to go eat Mexican food, and I look out the window, and people were looking into my car.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
You had to expect that.
I mean, they look crazy.
I expect people looking at it,
but not walking up to it and looking inside.
I should put a camera there filming them.
Yeah, get a dash cam.
Well, it is filming them all the time.
All the police channels I follow.
Oh, really?
You can press the fart button, though,
and make the car go...
So usually if people are doing that,
I just fart it.
That's funny. But like a weird alarm system sound on it but anyway i changed my name because last time i called
in i just put my first and last name i'm the person that called in about like the shadow campaign
being them oh yeah and like my fallout to that, so we talked a little bit about how
Kamala Harris
is a VP and she's certifying
the legislative electors, blah, blah, blah.
Well, somebody in the chat
when I submitted the question the first time talked about
the electoral reform,
the electoral
count reform and presidential
transition improvement act
of 2022.
Long name.
But my question has to actually, it merges those together with Kamala Harris's campaign.
Like trying to paint you as a bad guy and like, say, you said that all Trump supporters should be killed and all that bullshit i just think that when you pointed out like the most important part of you pointing out that video is not about what kamala harris was trying to paint
you as a villain as but that they tried to spin it against you saying trump needs to like arrest
all the criminal criminal democrats and whatnot but the most important part was when you said that there
needs to be like DAs and AGs in place to help the charges actually stick against criminal Democrats.
Right. So in the electoral count reform and presidential transition improvement act,
they named it that, not me. They actually have a role in it that makes the state's
role in it a little suspicious to me so i wanted to follow up on it because in that bill they
talked about it codifies that the executive of each state sends forward the state slate of electors
and the law indicates that in this context, the executive is usually a governor.
But if a state law, in effect, prior to the election explicitly identifies another officer, such as the secretary of state, which would work as well, the law simply requires certainty before the election so in my opinion when i read that in the beginning when i submitted my first
question and then now with malla harris's campaign like slandering you like this it doesn't make it
crystal clear what officer is responsible for sending forward the official slate of electors
so now i'm imagining all of the corrupt ags and dass of all these other states, like you talked about, are so important,
who are corrupt and were a part of all the slanderous charges against Trump
are now in power.
And if that is so, like, basically this act strips the power from the VP
from certifying the electors.
It now has to do with Senate and whatnot.
But I just feel like
is there
anything about this act that makes
you guys think
if what I pointed
out earlier that whoever they
officiate as their electors to
be for the state, is that
not going to impact this election?
What's the act called again? The congress.gov with this state with this act like you can read it but like the states
sorry what'd you say what's it called i'm it is the electoral count reform and presidential
transition improvement act of 2022 that's the one that made it to the vp doesn't
count anymore right yes they're like uh they're like a ceremonial elector which their vote doesn't
count it's like religious in this point it means yeah that was the time so they do kick it to
people in congress which is fine i'm glad that more people are part of it but like you said tim when you were talking
about like the ags and the da's being crucial to being a part of if trump was president to
actually criminally charge democrats of their crimes trump's gonna need those people in line
to even help him be president so for me if you if you guys read this act, I feel like there's so much slimy shit happening behind the scenes.
Not only did I think they would obviously fraudulently stuff the ballot boxes, but it does.
Do you guys think this act is going to have a harm on this election?
I don't know enough about it.
Yeah, it's hard to say without having read
the act. Generally, it's interesting that they are saying, you know, we have this regulation
we're introducing unless the states have already explicitly stated something to the contrary,
like it's the secretary of state's job. To me, that that, you know, that becomes an interesting battlefield going into this election.
If you have a state like New Hampshire, and this doesn't totally work because Kristen
Newnan does not really like Trump, but a Republican governor and a secretary of state, who I'm
assuming in this case is a Democrat, then you have obviously a sort of conflict there.
So if New Hampshire doesn't have a precedent as to what they're going to do, maybe there
would be some sort of conflict there. So if New Hampshire doesn't have a precedent as to what they're going to do, maybe there would be some kind of conflict.
On the other hand,
every other election states
have managed to send in electors before.
So for the most part,
I would assume all states
have some kind of protocol in place.
Which I would look for too,
but I'm saying the corrupt states, right?
In 2020, that changed all the legislation for voting.
The question is, I i guess moot then if
the states are corrupt they're gonna lie cheat and steal and do whatever the act doesn't doesn't
matter they'll just do whatever they want but that sucks well yeah it sucks it's terrible so for me
it's like how do we figure out like who did these people elect to be the slate of electors for this
because obviously the slate of electors are going to be chosen in November when they when you cast your vote.
Right. But like if Kamala can't like officially certify the election, quote unquote, like Mike Pence could have done,
kicked back the slate of electors and had it questioned, which arguably is that good or bad now?
Who knows? But in what I'm saying for this election is it's like,
whoever,
like what?
So the States,
okay,
sorry.
Let's slow down.
Let's slow down.
The States.
Okay.
The election happens.
Your States will have two different sets of electors for Trump or for Kamala.
When one is determined to be the winner,
the governor will certify it.
It's done.
It's sent to DC. And what they're saying is without the winner, the governor will certify it. It's done. It's sent to D.C.
And what they're saying is that the VP, it doesn't matter once they have the official numbers entered in when they're sent by the state.
It's over. So it's the governor.
And that's it.
What I think.
The law that they put in place in 2022 codifies that if the executive of each state was changed before this.
So it might not be the governor it might be a corrupt ag or da
of whatever state that like that's more of what but none of that means anything none of that means
anything doesn't good i mean i thought it would it it's that the states already have all of these
mechanisms that law doesn't change it what used to be widely
talked about before jan 6th is the concept of faithless electors right and what i still am
worried about is everybody claims to care so much about the sanctity of democracy but you just look
at the board right now there is a conceivable scenario where we end up tied 269 to 269, right?
Yeah, it's like, I think, a percent to 0.3 of a percent chance.
And there's also one where...
But that would lead to a contingent election.
Correct.
And it would be a Trump-Harris presidency.
But that's if everybody stayed faithful.
Right.
It's not faithful.
It's the House delegation, so it's not even's not it's not faithful it's it's the it's the house delegation so it's not
even congress right right no but i'm saying if one person it's 269 to 269 if one person no no no no
no no when it goes to a contingent election electors no longer matter it now goes to the
house contingent it goes to a contingent election where house delegations correct each take but i
think but i think they have to first cast their votes to make it 269 to 269.
What I'm saying is there would be a suddenly all the party that claims that they care about democracy would be saying you have to save democracy by flipping your vote so it doesn't go to the House because Trump would win it 269 to 269.
I don't think they can flip their votes after the fact.
And so the states, the electors won't necessarily know in the immediate what who would have to flip. It would be it's too chaotic.
I think that they don't walk over and go, OK, who's voting, all of the talk about the sanctity of democracy comes back to it actually being not close enough.
Because I think if you go back and look, almost every election has had faithless voters, you know, where somebody gets a vote and they switch or they change.
The math out there is 269 269
is possible also trump could win georgia could win north carolina it's gonna end up a mess the
point is the point is we could get 269 because of faithless electors the faithless elector doesn't
know what the total count's going to be so there's no scenario where it's like are we coming to 269
quick change your vote that can't happen happen. So they're not right.
But my thing is, this is right.
But this is literally any election at any point ever, even 2016, a Republican elector.
They could be like, you've got to do it.
Trump can't win.
And they go, OK, so it could happen anywhere.
Nothing's changed.
It's faithful, faithless electors.
But we do have to move on because we only have a few minutes left.
So is there anything you want to shout out before we go?
Just a shout out to Clay Chavez, because my husband is a huge fan of you and uh we have been trying for kids
recently so i hope one day i can be one of those chatters that hannah claire is proud of
i'm proud of you just for trying baby thank you for the call if i could i would have 10 kids it's
just all right money's tough stuff. Thanks for calling in.
I said I lead the nation in pretty girls who take photos of me with their husbands and have no idea who I am.
All right.
Next up, we got Jewish Mendo.
What up?
You are.
There you go.
Evening, everyone.
Howdy.
Welcome.
What's up?
How are you?
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Also, I do have to admit, I did also change my name,
just like she did, since the last time I called,
although I don't even recall what my name used to be on Discord.
You identity crisis person.
Yes, indeed, indeed.
What's going on?
So, I was actually wondering what your guys' thoughts would be
on whether Trump, if he wins, because I'll admit I'm a New Yorker here.
I know you guys say get out of the cities, but I do have some stuff to tie up here in the city before I eventually get out.
But I've actually been quite a bit of a witness to the protest that happened here.
What, the one on Monday?
Yeah, the anti-Israel, the anti-American one.
They were like waving Hamas flags and Hezbollah flags, right?
Yep.
There's a video of the guy saying that hostages deserve to die.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, no, it's quite insane stuff.
And the worst characters and the weirdest ones come out here.
So I was actually wondering what you guys thought.
If Trump ends up beating the shadow campaign, I mean, who knows what will happen, but if he essentially gets through everything,
do you guys anticipate four years of crazy nationwide protests like this, or do you think
it'll go away like eventually? It won't go away. It's not going to be four years of crazy protests.
It'll be protests popping up throughout the four years. Yeah, I would think the first six months you'll
see a lot of public demonstrations. Like remember back in 2016, suddenly all women were on a flight
to D.C. with their bright pink hats. I think you'll see some stuff like that, but then it'll
go back to being sort of like George Floyd. There'll be an incident that then makes people
go into the streets. Luckily now Trump has had some experience under his belt and is more prepared to navigate that kind of large scale conflict.
I think by 20, regardless of what happens by the midterm, everybody's going to be running for 2028.
Yeah. So there's a date certain that Trump would be gone.
And so I think that I know they'll still say, oh, he's not going to
leave and all those other. Yeah. But I think there's a date certain and knowing what that
date certain is diminishes it appreciably as the term continues and everybody's going to be running
to try. Like, I think there will be 50 people, 25 Democrats, 25 Republicans, all angling to run
by January of 27 in an aggressive way.
We're going to be so sick of politics by then.
It's going to be crazy.
And I think Trump's going to create a bunch of people on both parties who are just rich
and think they can be the next president.
Interesting.
Like, and that celebrity angle is going to continue because I think people think that
they could be Trump.
Yeah.
It'll be interesting to see, like with J.D. Vance,
what happens to his seat.
Like, will Vivek go for it,
or is he going to sort of wait and then run again for president?
Like, there are people who are interested.
Well, someone needs to get appointed for that, right?
Yeah.
So, like, DeWine could appoint Vivek because he's an Ohio resident.
So, you know, you have this, like,
are people just waiting to jump into the presidential sector?
Are there people who are now strategically thinking like,
I want to build a longer term political career?
I think people who, especially Republicans this year,
it was to get your name out there
because we all knew it was probably going to be Trump.
And also how many people just defer to J.D. if Trump wins?
You know, he could have picked somebody like Doug Burgum,
who I don't think anybody would have been like,
if Doug Burgum is running, I'm not running, right?
Like, I don't think that they're,
but I think JD is super smart
and he's going to be able to raise a lot of money.
And so that will create its own universe
of potential outcomes.
Especially depending on what his sort of pet project
as VP becomes.
Like VPs kind of go to the background,
but if he really is teeing up to run for president,
he's going to want some issue that he is out there
always having his name on.
The other part that nobody talks about
that I think is huge is the number of Democrats
that actually secretly want Kamala to lose.
Yeah.
Gavin Newsom would give his pinky at least,
maybe more fingers for Kamala Harris to lose and eliminate herself as a legitimate contender.
J.B. Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, all of them desperately, I think, want Kamala to lose.
Especially Newsom, because if she won and then she was like, I'm running again, he has to line up behind her.
Whereas right now, I believe he's term limited. So it works out where in 2028, that's like the perfect time for him to announce that he's
running for president. All of them want her to lose.
Was that
good, Mando? Was there anything you want to
shout out? Oh, yeah, you definitely
answered my question, gave me a bit more.
You know, two closing
comments, actually, for Clay.
Guys, you and Buck Sexton are definitely
awesome, although I have
a preference towards Mark Simone, though.
He's a great guy.
Super successful WOR show.
We appreciate that.
Thanks.
And honestly, for the Tim Kess guys,
he would definitely be a good guest to accompany Ann Coulter
if she ever comes out again.
I love Ann.
I'm pretty sure we've had Buck on before.
Buck would be, I mean, if you haven't. You know, he's come back on again. I'm pretty sure we've had Buck on before. Buck would be, I mean, if you haven't.
You know, he's come back on again.
I'm pretty sure he has.
Yeah.
Buck's great.
And, you know, look, I mean, we talk for three hours every day.
So it's definitely a lot.
We were joking about today.
We talk to each other way more than we talk to our wives.
That's for sure.
Right on, man.
Thanks for calling in.
My pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
All right. Next up, we have Perceptual Jonathan. Right on, man. Thanks for calling in. Pleasure. Thanks for having me. All right. Next up, we have perceptual Jonathan.
Welcome to the show. Hey, thank you. How's it going, everybody?
It's going well. Great. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Glad to hear.
I'm just quickly on Clay's point about the faithless electors.
They can just affect like in 2016, three people voted for Bernie because they can't.
Wow. I hear cars.
Yeah, so I'm just out walking and there were a couple of cars passing.
So I hope it's not that audible.
Nope.
But my question is for Tim, just going on, you know, what you said recently about the death penalty. There are just a lot of people that have committed heinous actions.
And there was no doubt about it.
Ian Watkins.
Who's that?
The former frontman for the Lost Prophets.
Oh, yeah, he was accused of a bunch of pedo shit, right?
No, he admitted it.
He admitted to raping babies.
Oh, good God.
Yes.
You had just like the recent stabber in the UK at the Taylor Swift dance studio.
You could even say Andrew Cuomo was sending all those sick elderly people into nursing homes to kill thousands of elders.
Yep.
What is the actual argument against saying these are you're using you're using uh uh you're using
specific cases in a system of 330 million people who argue that three these three examples justify
the state having the ability to determine when someone gets to die i do not agree in very in
very particular cases yes no i i totally understand your counterargument.
In the event where you catch a person harming someone else or about to harm someone else,
you use force to stop them to defend someone else from being killed or
suffering severe bodily harm. But just because these stories exist doesn't mean
that we should put a room together where Kamala Harris walks in and goes,
that man should be put to death. And then everyone goes, okay. And then they just fucking kill the guy.
Like, yeah, I get it.
You can name bad people all the time.
John Wayne Gacy existed.
Hitler existed.
We kill people in war all the time.
That doesn't justify a mass system where we kill people because the state says so.
Well, okay.
So I understand the point you make about Harris.
But with Harris, if she came to you or I and said,
lock this person away for 40 years we would also
probably say no i'd say put him on an island demon the death penalty can be switched to exile
put him on a boat kick it out later yeah like i can be down for that too but i mean if kamala
harris came to you and said i have evidence that ian crossland did some terrible crime won't you
believe me and sentence him guilty.
No, you would say, no, you're an evil demon.
Yep.
I don't believe a word you said.
That's right.
I'm finding him not guilty
just because it's me who's bringing the charge.
And so this has nothing to do once again,
because juries don't do that.
Juries overwhelmingly just say,
well, he's a cop.
He must be telling the truth.
And then they go, let's murder this guy.
And the rate of innocent people who die if the death penalty is is is is too high.
It's too high. What is it like a couple percent or something? Some ridiculous.
I mean, it's it's absolutely ridiculous. We don't have a trustworthy enough justice system to allow for the kind of situation where a punishment is that extreme.
We've already seen so many cases of people being exonerated and let out of prison, you know, after spending 25 years in locked up for a crime they didn't commit.
And the notion that this could possibly happen to even one individual in the United States who is not guilty but is convicted is not a tenable situation.
Well, but this is just the problem that you're kind of speaking to is, yes, there are issues with people being falsely convicted.
So how many innocent people are you willing to murder for your system what number is too much how many how many innocent people will you shoot in the face
hang or give lethal injection to satisfy your need to kill bad people
even if i say the number is ian watkins he's guilty yes how many innocent people
will you personally kill to justify this system
what's the number so i don't know i don't have to say there any i can say no no no no just me
i can say that the only people that are candidates for this are those about whom we have no doubt
whatsoever not possible doesn't exist i can say I can say the number of people that will be executed, period, is in.
Doesn't exist.
Not nobody else.
No, no, no.
I'm saying nobody else.
You can't just be in Watkins.
That's the only person.
So what you're saying now is you think someone should murder Ian Watkins, not that there
should be a system wide federal death penalty system.
No, no, no.
First of all, it's not murder.
A murder is an unjustified killing, and I don't think that a conviction by jury followed by why should the federal government and the state government's 51 jurisdictions plus
outlying jurisdictions have the mechanized institutionalized right to murder people
because of Ian Watkins? Again, i don't think no no it's
it's not murder and you're like a murder is an unjustified killing okay why should the state
be allowed to kill people because because one guy did bad a bad thing oh yeah if you want to go to
that i mean i think it's just biblically prescribed i mean i like how many innocent people are you
willing to kill for the system?
There is a whole number, a solid single-digit number of innocent people who die to the death penalty, and you tolerate it.
If you say the system is okay, then you're willing to accept murdering innocent people so that you can kill the bad people.
I reject that.
I don't think the state should have a right to kill any amount of innocent people.
Okay, but I can say these included around and I can say how many innocent people are you willing to have locked in a cage because other bad people do bad things? A decent number, honestly,
and XL is probably better, though. This is the same question. And I don't think that saying
I'm willing to walk. It's literally not the same question at all. It is very much the same question.
Not at all.
It's just we're saying the punishment.
Absolutely not correct.
Taking someone's life and restricting their movement are two completely different things.
I would say it's a negligible difference when you talk about taking someone.
Like, say that Ross Ulbricht never got out of prison.
So you're suggesting that what Ian Watkins did is comparable to someone locking a kid in a basement? No, I'm saying what Ian Watkins did is way worse. Okay. Murdering
someone is way worse than locking them in your basement. All right. Yeah, sure. So if I had to
choose between two systems, one is there are bad people. They do exist. What is the rate by which
we are willing to tolerate innocent people falling victim to the system, even though to the best of our abilities,
we avoid this? There's a number there. Maybe it's 1% or less, maybe 1 in 100 or less,
maybe between 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 100. It's tough, but it's a number. How many am I willing to kill?
Zero. Zero percent. The system cannot be allowed.
Taking someone's life, snuffing out a unique existence, and one in a million is too much.
And this country does way more than that.
I do not trust.
And it doesn't matter about Ian Watkins. It doesn't matter that you can point to John Wayne Gacy or Jeffrey Dahmer.
It doesn't matter if you can point to Hitler.
What matters is you are not arguing for a bad person to die for their evil deeds. You are arguing for the creation of a
political machine that kills people. No, I don't really agree with that because you can basically
put it as like you have a threshold for conviction and like Libby points out that, you know,
juries don't exactly do their job. That is a fundamental issue that cuts to the entire justice system that cuts, you know, any punishment. So, OK, I'm going to pause real quick
and I got to say I got to ask again. I'm not sure what you're not getting then. I don't care if
there is a margin of error for people to be locked away. Taking someone's life is the most extreme
thing you can do. We should not do it. That's it. That's it. If you are morally of the mind
that it is okay for innocent people to die, just say so, and the conversation is done.
We're not arguing anything. My morals are, we don't tolerate the killing of innocent people,
and your morals are, some innocent people need to die for the greater good. There we go.
No, that is not what I've said. I have said there are very particular people about whom we have no
doubt. We have caught them in the act committing a murder.
Then I got to stop you.
I got to stop you because you're once again, you're not understanding.
You are missing the point.
The system that the system exists today to try to kill people who do bad things.
But the system cannot be perfect because such an absolute system is not possible to build. In the
system that exists today, innocent
people are put to death. I do not
tolerate this system.
I'm not saying
the current way it is done.
Then you're arguing that you get to decide
sometimes you kill people. I'm saying to narrow the death penalty
to extremely limited cases.
It's not possible!
It doesn't work. It's not possible.
It doesn't work.
I'll also build you an infinity machine
that prints money for you
and you can have gold forever.
It'll turn lead to gold for you.
Like the argument you're making
that there can be a machine comprised
to deal with 330 million people,
nay, seven, eight billion people
that can make,
that is so perfect.
It never makes a single mistake.
It's not possible.
You heard a story about Ian Watkins. You say that's that's one guy who should die. The machine you are building kills innocent people. That's it. That's all. That's it. There is no reality
in which an innocent person will not be subject to this. That's it. If you want to argue for a
perfect world with magic and lead turning to gold, you can do so. But that doesn't exist.
If you want Ian Watkins to die, you can say so. But there is no way by which you build a
political machine with juries and judges where they will always, always be correct. And therefore,
you tolerate a certain degree of of killing innocent people. That's it.
Yeah, you're talking about the practical reality versus, you know, some limitations.
So in reality, I oppose the death penalty for that reason. That's it.
There is zero reality.
And I'm saying if we limit the candidates of people executed to the likes of Ian Watkins, this stabber in the UK, people who actually have hatched in the act having murdered people.
Yeah, but that can't be a standard.
The thing is, that can't be a standard. The thing is, that can't be a standard. It can't be
a standard that there's like one
type of circumstance that
always leads to a death.
But you don't understand. What you don't understand is
there is no
circumstance where you,
you, you, you
watch the murderer do it. You will
walk into a room and a guy will
say, trust me. And you'll go, yeah, Ian Watkins a room and a guy will say, trust me.
And you'll go, yeah, Ian Watkins sounds like a bad guy.
Now, let me ask you, did you watch Ian Watkins committing these crimes?
Yes or no?
No.
Oh, he admitted to it.
Oh, so have there been people who have given false confessions in the past?
Yeah, there probably have been.
Yes, there have been.
Have there been innocent people who have been coerced into giving false confessions,
have been put to death?
I can't name any.
That's actually true.
Yes, they have.
Have there been people who have been tortured by what's his John Burge in Chicago to giving false confessions?
A confession is not justification for for a machine that kills people.
And you are advocating for the death of a man and you didn't even witness his crimes.
He just said it.
Therefore, you think he should die.
I think that's nuts.
I don't like the things I've heard about the guy.
I don't like the things he's allegedly done.
But I didn't see shit.
And I will not be party to a machine that kills innocent people.
That's it.
Okay.
But then I also don't agree with that same machine that will go and lock someone in a box for 50 years.
That's great.
And basically sentence them to life in a cage.
You're not convincing me.
I'm not here to convince you. I've made my point. You can understand it or not. We have different morals. That's great. And we have different morals. End of story. Life in a cage. You're not convincing me. I'm not here to convince you. I've made my point. You can understand it or not.
We have different morals. That's it. No, no, no. I totally understand your position.
I did. And, you know, I, I think you understand mine. We just don't agree with each other. That's
cool. Right on. Well, I think it was a great call though. Is there anything else you want to shout
out? Oh, thank you. Um, Clay, your, what I imagine was probably your last appearance on CNN where you told
Brooke Baldwin that the only two things you believe in are the First Amendment and boobs
was one of the greatest soundbites in corporate media history. And among some friends, I just
can oversee a blog, and every time it's either your birthday or her birthday,
I use that as the header gif on the page.
Thank you.
That I've banned from CNN.
Literally not.
What a fun badge of honor.
Was it because of that comment?
Yes.
Because that's a killer comment.
They refused to allow me. By the way, I was a guest about the First Amendment.
For people who have not seen that clip, Brooke Baldwin lost her mind and wanted me to apologize.
But she was like, as a woman, I'm like, you know, I appreciate it. As a woman, she doesn't like
boobs. She was offended that I would say that I, and I've been saying that on my show for a long
time. Cause if you say you're a first amendment absolutist, people don't really know what that
means. And it kind of vanishes in their head or whatever. So I would say the only two things that
have never let me down are the First Amendment and boobs.
And so I would say it on my radio show all the time.
I said it on CNN and she lost her mind.
The other guy who was there with you,
he looked like he was doing everything possible
to just not bust a gut live.
That guy was like, there was another guest on
and he said he was offended by me too.
And then people went into his Twitter feed and found tons of he said he was offended by me too. And then people went into,
people went into his Twitter feed and found tons of stuff where he was talking about how much he loved women's asses.
So we got to get to this last caller.
Cause we're way over.
Okay.
Um,
and just very quickly,
I'm super glad that outkick brought on Ian Miller.
He was great voice during,
uh,
during COVID.
And if I could very quickly shill some potential nicknames for Tim Walls.
I like Tattletail Timmy for his snitch lines during COVID.
And also Weasel Walls on that one.
Weasel Walls.
That's good.
Weasel Walls, Tattletail Timmy.
Somebody get those to Trump.
And then also you could go with Terrorist Timmy and Warzone Walls for him just letting Minnesota get burned to the ground.
Right on.
Well, thanks for calling in, man.
I appreciate the call. It was good.
Thank you. Have a good night, all. Take care.
Alright, next up, we've got
the Josh. I do really mean it when I say that.
I appreciate when people argue with me.
Because I like arguing. It's fun. And I think it's
entertaining. I hope everyone else did, too.
Probably not, but, you know, whatever.
Josh!
Yeah. Hey, guys.
Thanks for taking my call. My question uh clay it's gonna be real quick uh
what do you think the october surprise might be coming from the democrats or the unit party
well i don't know what did you say on this show tim back in july
the october surprise i'm just kidding they probably a clip. They're ready to drop to... Actually, yeah, we did talk about the October surprise.
I don't know.
I think it's almost impossible to predict what an October surprise could be
because they're the incumbent party.
And usually whatever October surprise would exist
would work against the incumbent party.
Because you would say, well, they should have seen it coming.
So I don't know.
I mean, do you guys have a theory?
I think Biden's out of the White House and they're installing Kamala Harris as president.
And then she's the incumbent on the ticket.
Yep.
And she just skates right on in without having ever earned it. And the argument they make is that we cannot allow the first black female president to
go out this way.
I think it hurts her because it makes it feel like even more of a rigged job than it already
has.
Not if she starts working on projects at the very last minute that she doesn't get done
right away.
But she says, we have just sent out the checks.
The other three are coming in the next few months, but you have to elect me.
She doesn't want to be tied to the Biden-Harris campaign right now. I mean, she is barely
mentioning that she's the current vice president. She will occasionally acknowledge stuff she has
done with Joe, but not really. I mean, it's really Biden when he talks, who was like,
Kamala and I are working on this and she's going to continue my legacy.
I think that I mean, we can't say what's going to happen to Joe Biden.
He really does not seem to be doing that well. But I don't think she wants to be the incumbent president because then she is even more responsible for the state of the country and the economic legacy of the Biden Harris regime, which she does not want.
She can't defend. She can't defend anything.
The October surprise is hard to predict.
I feel like the debate on what is it, the 10th week from today? That's the thing that I feel
like I can't make any predictions until I see how that goes. Just because, you know, she is probably
going to try and girl boss. I am speaking her way through it. And I actually think Trump is better
prepared to handle that than he has been in the past.
On the other hand, you can't get her to talk about policy.
And so I don't really know what there would be other than sort of personality catfight.
And that would impact the way people view this election.
I think the challenge with October surprises is what could be said about Trump that would
surprise anyone?
There's nothing.
He's a known quantity.
I mean, and so October surprises, typically it's like the grabber by the pussy tape was an October surprise in 16.
But at this point.
That didn't do shit.
And by the way, the funniest thing about the grabber by the pussy line to me is billy bush got fired and had his career ended and trump standing next
to trump while he said it right and trump got elected president the argument was that he laughed
the argument right but billy bush's wife left him yeah and he got fired from the Today Show. And Trump got elected president of the United States.
It's maybe the most unfair reaction to a joke of all time.
Billy Bush's life basically ended, and Trump got president of the United States.
There is nothing they can say about Trump that's going to hurt him.
That's what I'm saying.
No, but it's Harris.
What if in October, Harris comes out and was like,
you know, I've been campaigning about the abortion issue for so long because i myself had an abortion
when i was 29 years old you know what i mean or something like that where she like that's what i
was wondering has come on harris had an abortion look we don't know a bunch uh i think unless
paid for her abortion then i don't know that it would really surprise that's the only heartstrings
issue that willie Brown made for it.
If October's surprise would have to be something that makes Kamala seem
more sympathetic to the voters in
that moment. But I don't know that she can
We definitely gotta go. We are way over.
So
I guess we'll call it. Josh, you want to shout anything
out before we go?
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to send to you guys roosters roosters gotcha all on. All right, thanks for calling in.
Yeah, thank you.
We went to, I was in Rhode Island, went to Newport.
We were looking at a knick-knack shop, and it was like a bunch of little bullshit.
And I was like, I don't think they have anything, and Allison didn't want to get anything.
And right when we were walking out, slightly behind something was a rooster.
Did you get it?
On a tile.
And I walked over, and it was a chicken and a rooster heat pad for casseroles.
Nice.
Clay, thanks for hanging out. Hey, this was fun.
I appreciate y'all having me. It was great to meet you guys
in person.
This was a lot of fun. Yeah, thanks for coming, man. Anytime.
We should have you and Buck on sometime if we can get you on.
Yeah, for sure. And for everybody who's a member,
thank you all so much for being members.
Tomorrow on the show, we have
Anthony Constantino.
And then right on.
We got a bunch more coming up later this week.
So thanks for hanging out.
Tomorrow morning, 10 a.m., youtube.com slash timcastnews.
And I'll see you there.