Timcast IRL - Colonel Kurtz Uncensored: UFO Photos Released, Mystery Drones Spark Panic In NJ

Episode Date: December 15, 2024

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I did not eat anything today. I skated for like almost three hours. So I'm trying to eat these built bars. Because I'm going to wake up feeling like shit. I ate four of those last night. I had a huge headache this morning. I think I had 700 or 800 calories so far today. You were good.

Very bad. Yeah, Phil's giving me a scared look. No, I'll eat this built bar. I'll have a protein shake afterwards. So let's just kick this thing off and talk about drones over New Jersey. Aliens. Aliens is way better. Look at this one.

We got pictures. This proves it. Look at that. Aliens. Aliens. Look at this one. That one might be Ian. That's cool.

Aliens. Yeah, it's like a jack. Yeah. Cruciform. It's like a quint copter. I got you. Right? That does just look like a quad rotor. Like a jack. Yeah. Cruciform. It's like a quint copter. I got two. Right? That does just look like a quad rotor.

Like a penta rotor? Yeah. Pent rotor? Mm-hmm. A sept rotor. It would be sept, right? A sept would be seven. That looks like five.

Are you sure? Yeah, sept is seven. Quint or penta, penta rotor, hex rotor? Penta rotor is six. Hex is six. Penta is five. Pentagram, Hex Rotor. Hex is six. Penta is five. Pentagram, you got. But it's also...

Sept is seven. Scepter. Oct is, of course, Quint. I see 10 points, though. Quint Rotor. Yeah, so it'd be Quint. Quint Rotor. Quint Copter.

Quint Copter sounds terrible, though. Septuple is seven. Duh, how did I get that wrong? September, October. That doesn't even look like a sounds terrible, though. Septuple is seven. Duh. How did I get that wrong? September, October. That doesn't even look like a copter, though. Like, the copter part is where it's a rotor. The rotors are right here. Up above each of the tips, there'd be a rotor.

These all look like drones to me. Right. You get it, Phil? I do. Yeah. Whatever. It's a TIE fighter. That looks cool as fuck.

A bunch of gyroscopes inside. That's a boomerang some Australian guy threw. They should chill the fuck out. I wonder if that's, TIE fighter. That looks cool as fuck. A bunch of gyroscopes inside. That's a boomerang some Australian guy threw. They should chill the fuck out. I wonder if that's like stealth. This just looks like... Another quincopter? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's kind of obvious all of this is just experimental tech.

You know what I mean? Yeah. That looks like it's got rotors on it, too, on the wings. The thing is, i i do believe that aliens probably exist and i don't think it's strange to think that they might have done some kind of you know exploratory investigation of our planet just like me we have people who investigate ants you know we've got zoologists interested in all kinds of animals so i don't know it's not crazy but this this is this ain't it right for i don't

think so i mean i don't see any evidence that this is alien like off world other species i'm always cynical about me too cynical about alien there has to be a high standard of proof for this kind of stuff i mean look man things are far away and like if you ever look at the illustrations of how fast light travels when it comes to, like, just in solar scale, like solar system scales, like, it takes, like, four minutes for light to get from the sun to the earth. Seven. Seven minutes. Maybe that could be seven. Maybe it's eight.

I'm not exactly. Oh, it's four? What was that? I said four. I think you're right. I mean, but the point is, it's eight. I'm not exactly. Oh, it's four? What was that? I said four. I think you're right. I mean, but the point is, it takes minutes. It's so far. And you can see that, like, it looks, it doesn't look like super small in the sky either.

Like, the distances we're talking about are crazy. Eight minutes. Eight minutes. Eight minutes. So eight minutes. That's 93 million miles. Yeah, that is not like it's light is fast like to us but when it comes to you know a cosmic scale it's not that fast yeah they call light

years which is how long it takes light to travel how far light travels in one year and that's how they measure spatial like cosmic distances how many how many years does it take which takes, what, eight minutes to get from the sun to here? And the nearest star, Proxima Centauri, is like 11 light years away. Oh, brutal. So Alpha Centauri, they think, might have habitable planets. Is that right? Or they think it might. I mean, I think it's the closest, like like potentially habitable system for for earthen's

alice in tory how far that's a galaxy right so yeah it's a star so star system proxima centauri is four point a galaxy it's a star system proxima centauri is 4.25 light years away the nearest star is four years at the speed of light that's at the speed of light not close to the speed of light. That's at the speed of light. Not close to the speed of light, but at the speed of light. Okay. But nobody's actually talking about traveling space at the speed of light. We're talking about folding space-time.

Yes. If that's possible. Warp drive is feasibly possible. According to NASA, I mean, I think NASA's working on a warp drive where they compress space in front of the craft and expand it behind. And that just moves.

It doesn't actually propel the craft. It just- You're moving between space-time. You would need to understand, you would need to be able to manipulate space without the mass of a star, like without actually having that mass. So if there is a particle that's a graviton,

which was theorized, but I don't know if it's actually true. actually having that mass so if there if there is a particle that's a graviton which is is was theorized but i don't know if that's actually true if there is a graviton and if you can like figure out a way to manipulate it maybe but i mean as of right now i don't even think that there's a theory for how to do that warp drive i interviewed this guy named salvatore paes he's like a navy scientist i think he was working on he might have been working on anti-gravity. I, I, the interview was so wild. But anti-gravity is different than, than warp drive or, or manipulating like anti-gravity would, would, would be the expanding space part, I guess. Yeah. Uh, it's, they're similar in the cavitation of space. So like with anti-gravity, you would, you would create a vacuous cavitation in the direction that you want the thing to be pulled.

And similar with a warp drive, there would be a cavitation. I've been listening to a couple of YouTube videos about time and about what time is. And there are people that don't even think that gravity or that time and space are actually relative. They think that relativity is wrong. They think that it's an emergent phenomenon that they have, that there are coincidental elements to them, but that they're not actually connected.

Space and time? Yeah, which I don't know if it's true. But the idea is that time is just a measure of distance through space, really, essentially. And that's part of why the faster you go, the slower time moves. And the slower you go, the faster time moves um but i don't know that there's any kind of actual theory as to how you would bend how you would shape space in a way that's practical like to to compress time in front of a of a ship and expand or compress space in front of a ship and expand space behind it like i don't think that there's a theory for a warp drive

theoretical spacecraft order they'd have to be really i guess really advanced yeah and so i mean look i mean not saying that it's not possible but you know we need we need completely and totally new physics to for this stuff to to be something that can be theorized beyond just the concept never mind like not you know actual practically how would you do it? You know, not just, oh, wouldn't it be cool if you could do this? This is from space.com. It says the story is warp drives may actually be possible someday. New study suggests.

This is from May of 2024. I haven't even read the study yet, but that was what came up when I read Warp Drive. And I think they're the Alcubierre, Miguel Alcubierre. I've heard a lot about the Alcubierre Warp Drive on a groundbreaking paper. The basics are he published the idea in classical and quantum gravity. And it may not require exotic negative energy.

Team's model but a traditional novel. This is just a surface level study. The proposed engine could not achieve faster than light travel, though it could come close. Okay, so we're still talking sub-lights.

So it's still like four years. But I guess four years isn't that long to get to another star. No, to get to the closest star. Yeah. If you're talking about, you know, you're talking about the Milky Way, our galaxy only, right, is like 200,000 light years across from one side to the other. So now granted, you're not like going from one side of the galaxy to the other is like,

I mean, that's just a huge, massive distance, you know, and you're not going to do it in any kind of anything remotely close to what we understand as a lifetime. Yeah. There's what wormholes they think you can travel through. Again, that requires bending space to a point where you can travel through the hole and also have your ship come out the other side. Which, I mean, a wormhole, in theory, is a black hole that bends space so much that it creates a rift in time. But you come out the other side. Yeah. Like you're twisting open in the other spot.

Well, I mean, it bent like, so when you, when you go into a word, when you go into a black hole, right, you cross the event horizon.

What's happening is it's, it's just a man. It's, it's a mass that is so dense that it's essentially, for all practical purposes, it has become a singularity, which means that there is no longer a field the way that we understand it. All of the mass is an infinitely small point. So it's not like the black hole is a hole and then like you there's like this big ball in there it's literally bent space and crushed all of the mass into something so small it's just a it's a single point it's not not like a planet or like a you know like neutron stars sense of something yeah

i mean it's it's it becomes infinitely small so it's like it's just, it's like the head, all of it on the head of a pin. And if you were to go into it, you'd get crushed into nothing. And so there's no coming out of that kind of situation. There's a, oh, you got contacts? Search might have something. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game

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Sorry. We're talking about... Right in my eye. Some black holes are I've got some. It'll get better as time. Sorry. We're talking about. Right in my eye. Some black holes are charged with electrical charge. And I don't know exactly why. I don't know if anyone really understands why some black holes are charged black holes. Since it's electromagnetic repulsion in compressing an electrically charged mass. But I've got this fantasy that we're going to be able to travel through black

holes and they'll super accelerate the craft. And then wherever you like, you'll aim at a star and then you'll go through a black hole, a charged black hole, which will super accelerate your craft. And then when you get close to the star, it'll slow you down and you'll just come to a, like a halt in front of the,

whatever first star you hit. So if you down and you'll just come to a like a halt in front of the whatever first star you hit so if you if you aim wrong you're gonna go flying through god knows where through galaxies i don't know why i keep thinking that i think that might be that might be possible because you can't sit inside of a black hole it's like a piece of motion it like twists everything so fast like you're talking to singularity destroys It destroys everything. Anything that's inside of there is going to be crushed, but that pressure could be used to accelerate. The accretion disk on a black hole, all of the matter that's going around the black hole that's orbiting it as it gets sucked in or before it gets sucked in, that stuff is approaching the speed of light, and it's so hot that nothing that we know survives it. It's millions of

degrees so like the like the idea of like riding on the accretion disc no you'd have to go through it so fast kind of like when you run your hand over fire if you do it really quick it doesn't burn you like if we could somehow get through it at a fast enough speed that we could just use it to propel the rest of the way which is like great great distances i mean even getting to that speed is is uh still you know a big big ask you know yeah we'd have to experiment with like shining light through it and see if we could get the light to super accelerate light bends the light doesn't speed up the light doesn't go faster than i mean light's the fastest thing in the universe.

There was a while that they thought they were eclipsing the speed of light by using gravity to bend the light. And it was going a little bit faster than the speed of light. But I think that that was not to be correct. I haven't heard anything about that. I don't know. That was like 10 years ago. Like, you ever see the pictures of, like, the black hole in, like, Gargantua and Interstellar and stuff? The reason that it, like, it has the flat part and then it looks like it has that warp thing over the top that's actually just the back get the light around the accretion just getting bent over the top my god i love this stuff because space because it

just it bet like if you look at like you know they're it was super cool looking and stuff but like the the predictions like the the models that they have in computers, it says that the black hole will bend space so much that like the accretion disk will be flat, just like the way that everything spins around the sun. It'll be the same thing. But because of the bending of space, you'll see the accretion disk behind it bending up over the top of it. This might be surprising to many of our members, but Phil knows more about this than Ian. I'm an eternal student. I just listen to a lot of YouTube videos. I think we might be in a black hole.

You ever hear that theory? Yeah, that we're on the surface of it. That's why everything looks black when you look out there? No, that's... It's not why, but it's part of... could explain. A holographic projection on the outside of a black hole. Who knows?

Or none of it matters. Shut up. This is why drugs are great. No, they're not. This is why psychedelics... I used to be like... I used to find it interesting to think about space, I used to find it interesting

to think about space, but then I smoked weed and I really, I started to feel it. I started to be able to, because it's not logical, man. Black holes aren't logical. It doesn't make sense. Like how that shit in the universe happens doesn't always make sense logically. So, because this is the members only section,

I could give a fuck. Who is this user? I'm going to... This is Goop1095 says, Tim, I demand you and your crew discuss this. Sure. According to Milo, James Lindsay had... Well, I'll just read it. Fucked Christina Buttons, who is a porn star,

with feces in her vagine. Also, Brett Cooper was fired from Daily Wire. The person who replaces her is also her best friend, bridesmaid, and producer. Daily Wire is also facing financial trouble due to failed media strategy. I know a lot about the media industry, guys. I know a lot of people in the media industry. And let me just tell you, all of these rumors about who screwed over who and who doesn't have any money,

James Lindsay did not have—I'm kidding, I have no idea what that was about. I think that's just bullshit nonsense. But as with the Daily Wire stuff, it's just really weird how people make shit up. I don't understand. Yeah. I mean, like, okay, Brett Cooper, there was a rumor going around, and they're like, oh, man, everyone's fighting. And I'm like, contract renegotiations happened.

They are amicably splitting. Let me tell you guys a secret. let me tell you guys a secret let me tell you guys a secret you know contracts don't mean shit contracts mean fuck let me tell you a secret back in the day if you got signed to a talent agency and you had an agent represented you would sell you out so I had uh I had a guy approach me he actually repped Geraldo and this is 10 this years ago. And he was like, I'm going to represent you. And it was from one of the big agencies, it was Paradigm. And I said, sure. And he gave me this massive contract to throw in the garbage. I said, thank you, have a ABC, and they said, Tim, we want you to say you love the president. Come on. This is important. This is for America. And I said, I'm not going to say it.

And then you're off the air and you're done. And I say, fuck you. Fine. I quit. No one will ever hire you. You go to NBC. They're going to say, no, no, no, no. You're under contract with ABC.

We hire you. We get sued. You know what contracts mean? Bullshit right now. If you take any contract with any company, I mean, look at what happened with Steven Crowder and the Daily Wire. What do contracts matter? If Phil, if he had a contract with a media company and they were fighting over terms and it was really bad for Phil, Phil could go on Twitter and say,

fuck yourself. And they could say, I'll sue you. And then Phil on Twitter and say, fuck yourself. And they could say, I'll sue you. And then Phil could laugh and say, have fun. Back in the day, you didn't have a medium for communicating to the public and causing PR issues. So if you got into an issue with a contract you were under for a talent agency or a TV network, you were fucked. Sit down, shut up, work it out. Other lawyers deal with it and try and see if your your career can survive now like i was under contract did fusion and i'm like bro they don't want to go to war with someone with so many followers so i that's why i don't believe the bullshit if brett cooper was having a really bad time she'd literally be like let me tell you how the contract negotiation is going to go because let me tell you about a contract negotiation is going to go. Because let me tell you about a contract negotiation I had. And I'll keep it vague to respect all parties involved.

I was on the phone with a client. And I said, guys, we negotiated terms on this deal at this rate for this amount of time. And when you sent in your invoice, I'm noticing the rate is a little bit higher. And they said, well, I mean, you got to understand. I said, no, no, no, no, no. You've got to understand. This is not what we agreed on. And if you want to play contractual language bullshit with me,

I'm going to hang up the phone and you will regret it. No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Dude, if a powerful influential person in media had a problem, they'd pull a Steven Crowder. I'm not saying it disrespectfully of Crowder. If Brett Cooper, if it was really this acrimonious nightmarish thing, she would pull a Candace Owens. Candace Owens publicly criticized them. And she called for, she wanted to debate Ben and very critical. The fact that she and Jeremy are like, it's all good. You know, the contract, these things don't

happen. Says to me, what likely happened is her contract was, was, was coming for renegotiation. She probably said, I want to get paid a lot more money. The show's massive. And they said, we're not going to pay you that much money. She probably said, I want to spend time with my family. I want to focus less on the show. And they said, we want a show that is run that like, here's the big deal. I can't speak to any internal stuff because I don't know what the fuck they got going on there. When you if I sold an ad package, so we recently had an ad package that was three months long. What happens then if in the middle of contract negotiations, you've already sold the ad package and the host says, I don't want to do that many shows. You got what we already sold it.

I've already told the advertiser they're going to get 12 reads over the next three months. And you're talking about demanding more money after the ads already sold and we don't have it. And you're saying if you don't, you're going to leave or you want to work less. And they say, well, I'm just not interested in doing it. All that happens. OK, so let's let's let's try this three month deal. Contract negotiations are halfway through. 12 ad reads are guaranteed at $100,000. The talent then says, my contract is up. I know it's unfortunate,

the timing of this, because I know we sold ads already, but I'm not willing to work five days a week. I want to do four, and I want twice the rate. I, as the business owner, then say, okay, well, we don't make that much money. We're only making $100,000 with these 12 ads. So if we pay you what you're asking, we just are giving you our money. We're losing money. The show's not making money. And if you don't work those days, no one's going to have those ad reads. We need a host who's going to be here for the allotted time to read those ads. Okay, well, I don't want it. I told you my terms. I have a family. I'm going to spend time with my family, and I'd rather not do this if it means I can't spend time with them or get paid more.

Well, I guess we're at an impasse. Thank you so much for everything you've done. Handshake. Let me know what we can do to support you in your future endeavors, and maybe you launch a new channel. We'll see what we can do to help you out because we want you to succeed. And then we're going to find someone else who knows the show can come in to fill these ad slots and do this in a way that makes money for everybody. And I'm sorry it didn't work out. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money. Again, I have no insider info. I don't know. But I would put $1,000 down. That's what happened. I mean, I don't know. Or something like that. I don't know what goes on at the Daily Wire any better than anyone else that doesn't work there.

But, like, I do think that the, you know, didn't she recently get married? Wasn't it in the past year? Yeah. Yes. I mean, it's. And the rumors on Pendragon are interesting. That's what the quartering was saying, right? Something about it.

But, like, dude, so let me tell you guys a story. Fuck the haters. Ignore the noise. I'm gonna let you guys in on a secret. It's not really a secret, but we're selling the DIY skateboard property. I'm done. Fuck these people. The DIY skateboard? In Martinsburg. Oh, okay. We're selling it. Yeah. We put it up. We've already got interest. And so we decided, fuck it, we'll just sell it. And I don't know what that means for these skateboarders. They can go fuck themselves. Not the skaters we like. Shout out to Mike and the crew.

They're cool dudes. The people who actually skate there, super cool with us. We've paid to do repairs. Here's the original plan. When we moved here, I was looking at a series of properties in Martinsburg because we wanted to build a $300,000 concrete park built by Spahn Ranch. The problem is if we bought one of these properties, we build a skate park there, lawsuits, suit into oblivion. So we were looking at the DIY property because the city already allows skateboarding there, which means what are you going to do about it? It's kind of

got legal precedent that skateboarding is allowed and construction is allowed. They let people build. Let's let's go to battle. They would not. If I bought that land and had spawn come in and build a three hundred thousand dollar park, the city would say, OK, I guess we've been going through bullshit with the building, the Queen Street building. It's been two years and people have said, Tim, you couldn't even open a fucking coffee shop in two years. I'm like, you're right, because the city is miserable. Sorry, guys. It's just true. So two weeks ago, one of these guys, it's basically one guy, threatened me several times at a Cracker Barrel. Really?

Yeah. Yeah. Allison and I went to Cracker Barrel, and he was there in front of me, and he coughed on me, threatened me, said he was going to drop me, said a bunch of other shit. Basically threatened me three times. One was like, you will die-esque. Like, it was to the level of, like, he was going to, I would be dead. But, like, he didn't say, I'm going to kill you.

He said, you know, I can't remember exactly what he said, but he was filming half of it. The first one he said, he's like, I'm going to put you on the floor. He was filming? Yeah, yeah. Like, it's nuts. And so I'm sitting here being like, it was funny because his girlfriend was there and I was talking to her and he was trying to talk to Allison.

And I said this to him. He was like, you fucking bought my apartment, you motherfucker. Oh, God. And I was like, with his girlfriend standing there looking at me, I said,

how long do you think it takes to buy a property like that? He goes, 30 to 60 days. And then I looked at his girlfriend and said, so do you think it's interesting at all that two weeks after the event was supposed to happen, we owned the property? And then she had this look on her face like, oh. And I said, yeah, because the plan was we wanted to build a park in the city that everybody can use, a privately owned public space, which would give us limited liability and create a skate park that we could control and keep out bad elements and have a fun place to film and do stuff.

But I was like, homie over here has been vandalizing it. And then ask them several times who the fuck's been vandalizing the property. We can't build anything because they keep showing with fucking sledgehammers. They've been, they've been spray painting slurs and other fucking bullshit all over the park. And so I talked to these companies. I said, what if we just build the park anyway? And they were like, this happens, man. I'm telling you, they're going to show up at 2 a.m. with sledgehammers and you're going to spend 20 grand and we're going to cancel the project. So it can't fucking be done. So after, so I was like, well, then we'll just keep the property and we'll leave it as is. Fuck them. But then after he came and threatened me several times,

I said, fuck it. We're selling. We're done. Don't blame you. So anyway, he posts on his Instagram bankruptcy sale. Listen, shit talkers and haters are going to lie their asses off. It's a million dollar property that I own 100% outright. It's commercial property in a bustling and growing area that they just they're building massive condos. And this is what they do. The people who hate will talk shit and make shit up. And it's fake and it's stupid. We are not bankrupt. That property is worth a million dollars and it's sitting there in hard equity that I own and I can sell for any amount that I want. I can sell it for

a dollar. I make a dollar. I sell it for a million dollars. I make a million. Well, not really. We bought it for eight something. So my point is they're going to talk shit. They're going to lie about you because they hate you. So when they're coming out and saying the daily wire, this and daily wire that I'm like, Oh, shut up, man. Like you, you can't have, I'm sorry. It's just literally not possible to have Ben Shapiro's show and be broke. It's I'm not, I'm sorry. I know the general podcast numbers for the top podcasts. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry. I know the general podcast number is for the top podcasts. And I'm estimating

it probably makes 20 million bucks a month. That is not a broke company. But people talk shit because they hate. They're haters. They lie. They cheat. They're fucking haters. Fuck the haters.

Anyway, let's grab callers. Let's get Syrian Penguin on the line. What is up? Good evening. First time, long time. How howdy um yeah so uh well question for the cast from probably your one and only fundamentalist wahhabi christian syrian discord member i don't know if you've ever had a syrian member before but there we go uh so credit where credit is due the the Biden White House came out and said that

in regards to the Syrian situation, they're going to take their time with any decision regarding the new leadership in Syria and base their decisions on the facts and their actions instead of just verbal announcements. Trump, on his part, announced that the U.S. shouldn't be involved in Syria at all. However, in light of Trump's support for Israel and who, you know, they have their own issues

with Turkey and then interest in the stability of Syria and preventing the spread of extremist militias, do you think it's realistic that the next administration is going to reduce the U.S. presence in the Middle East at all, or they're just going to be following with whatever aligns with Israeli interest? And thanks a lot. I think I think Trump is going to reduce presence in the Middle East for sure. 100 percent support for Israel is going to be interesting because that will drag the U.S. into certain conflicts. But compared to where we've been, I think it'll be less. I mean, like talking about having bases in Afghanistan, Iraq, you know, this massive presence, I think Trump will lend support to Israel. It'll be massive support, probably, I argue, even more support than they

get now. But think about it this way. If the U.S. curtails much of its operations in the Middle East and then utilizes 30 percent of those resources to support Israel, Israel is getting a massive boost. But our presence is dropping dramatically. I I think that Trump probably will kind of reduce our our footprint globally. But I do wonder if we'll have if there will be another another big terrorist attack in the U.S. because of it I mean we Bill Clinton did a lot of pulling back of the U.S. of U.S. forces from international bases and stuff like that there they they got out of Afghanistan. CIA stopped doing anything in Afghanistan and there was no funding. We stopped supporting Saddam Hussein. And I'm pretty sure that after the first Iraq war, there was no U.S. presence in Iran. There was no U.S. presence in Iraq. So that's Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq. That's a wide area to have like no U.S. influence there. The most you had was like Kuwait and I think some in Saudi Arabia. So I don't know that this is going to happen and I'm not advocating to build bases in these countries. But if the countries are run by you know islamic

extremists which is what it seems like because the guy that's taking over in syria the guy that that's leading the uh whatever the the new government in syria uh ends up being called um he was an al-qaeda member and and all of the the things that go along with that, if that's the case, then it seems likely to me that that would be another hotbed of terrorist activity. Dude, it looks like what happened was the CIA and whoever else was involved funded the Islamist extremists to take over Syria, so now we have a new boogeyman to fight. So we have just cause to go.

And they did it because they thought they were fighting Russia. They were like, oh, we're going to fight Russia and we're going to fight so we have just cause they did it because they were fighting they thought they were fighting russia they were like oh we're gonna fight russia and we're gonna fight iran so we'll fund the terrorists that are fighting asad because asad and hezbollah were we're backed by russia and iran yeah so it's like uh the second step of a three-part phase of get the russian support out get a new villain in and then third step is we'll go in and take over the new villain. Such fucking old school behavior. But even, so is there a better

plan and is staying completely out going to produce positive results for the U.S.? Because power vacuums only invite strong men. I was a huge proponent of increasing trade with Russia. The United States and Russia having awesome diplomatic relationships and trade partnerships and like just the empowerment of both countries.

Because I don't think there has to be one winner and one loser when it comes to the United States and Russia. So I don't I don't I feel like the Middle East is a different topic than Russia though. It's, it's related, but I don't feel like it's the same topic. Like what is the purpose over there right now? What's the geopolitical purpose of the liberal economic order in the Middle East? Is it just to expand Israel's sphere of influence? No. What is it? The, the, the intent of having U S uh, influence over there is to prevent some kind of terrorist attack here. Now, whether or not that's a good plan or whether or not it's effective, I'm not making a comment on. But that's what you're going to be told by people like State Department.

That's what they tell you. But 9-11 was pretty obviously perpetrated by people within the know. It was perpetrated by Saudis and a guy from Egypt. The guy whose passport fell out of the flaming plane, Mohammed Adda? I don't think so. So the issue here is, but this is what's fascinating,

is what is your level of ordered thinking? So for first order thinkers, they're going to say, government said it, so it's true. The next degree of ordered thinkers are going to say, what? A passport fell off a plane? That's bullshit. This had to be someone in the know. Higher order thinkers are going to say,

the fact that a passport was found on the ground is obvious bullshit, but gives me no information as to anything else related to what happened on 9-11. Yeah, I look at the buildings falling in near freefall. That's all I need. So, okay, so there are explosives planted on the support beams.

You see, that's what I'm talking about. I'm calling you a low-ordered thinker. Why would that? You made that up. No, I didn't. I watch architects and engineers around the world, 1,400 of them, talk about the near freefall of the buildings. You watched a video that you decided was correct.

You think the building's pancaked? Let's pull it up. I'm not asserting anything. So do you think the building's fell near freefall? I don't believe that it is correct to say near freefall. Yes, near freefall speed, indicating that the supports were blown out. Potentially.

Yes, 100%. This is what all the engineers around Earth will tell you. If a building falls in near freefall, it indicates the supports were removed and it was a demolition. So how did they get the bombs in? That's the question. I don't know.

But there was an elevator crew in there for a year before the attack. This is the problem with all the 9-11 construction. I don't know. No one really knows how, why. There was nanothermite in the dust around the devastation. Why was that there? According to the same architects and engineers that did the research on the cleanup. Do you think Osama

bin Laden was lying? About what? About why he I'm not even saying who's responsible. I'm saying that it's remarkable how the government, here's obvious logic, the government's never going to tell you how our security was breached. Period.

Fact is, our security was breached. If you want to say a rogue element of the government allowed 9-11 to happen or orchestrated it, that would still be the security of the United States was breached by a domestic internal force seeking to damage it. We don't know anything about what happened. And the idea that the government would ever release true information is— Bro, I got a bunch of bridges to sell you. I saw every single one at New York got to got to sell. If you're going to believe the official narrative, because the government is not going to come and say, hey, everybody, one of the greatest security lapses in

the history of this country just happened. And we're going to tell you exactly how it did. Yeah, that's never going to happen, especially with the Pentagon being struck by whatever the fuck it was struck by. My problem is it is obvious to anybody with a brain that the Pentagon was not hit by a plane. That makes no fucking sense. But of course, they're not going to tell you what it was actually hit by. Maybe it was hit by a smaller plane carrying explosives. Who knows? It certainly wasn't it.

I think there was bombs planted in the Pentagon, too. And they were ready for that building over Pennsylvania to hit it. And the plane went down in Pennsylvania. They were like, fuck, blow it. Structural damage of the Pentagon that you can see does not indicate a bomb. It indicates something smashed into it. That's why at Loose Change 9-11 they said a cruise missile made more sense. Because you get kinetic impact and you get an explosion.

That being said, the easy answer is we don't know. The official story is bullshit. You are stupid if you think a plane hit it. But that doesn't mean that, like, my problem is when people jump to the conclusion that Bush did it. I don't think Bush was involved. 4-9-11 was an inside job. I think that— Or bombs were planted.

Watching Cheney's company immediately get contracts, Halliburton get contracts in Iraq, in Afghanistan, like, he was the go-to guy, was the vice president of the United States to set up defense contracts in the country we invaded right after we got attacked on American soil. The invasion of Iraq was being planned well before 9-11 happened. Which is fucking psychotic. Which indicates that...

Why? So there's two scenarios. One, 9-11 was prepared as a justification for an invasion they were already planning on engaging in, or it was unrelated and they exploited the crisis to justify the moral panic. Yeah, and I think the first is more likely, if you look at geopolitical strategy,

that it was used as a false flag. And my assumption is not being involved in the Middle East doesn't necessarily—I don't think that 9-11 was the terrorist attack we were told it was. That's the point of bringing this up. I don't think that we weren't involved in the Middle East, and that's why we got attacked. I think it was like, yo, we need to invade the Middle East. Let's get the American public behind a war. We need to jump to our next caller, though. So, Syrian Penguin, appreciate you calling in.

You want to shout anything out? Thanks a lot. I'm just going to shout out myself, I guess, being the only Syrian here. I still have family and friends in Syria. So if you guys have any questions about the situation, I've seen Phil tweeting a lot, some stuff about the situation with the christians in syria and most of that is a lot of uh misleading out of context video and like i'd be happy to go through all of that uh but that would take forever i just want to say the point the point of that

video that i put up wasn't that it that i was saying that christians were being attacked my point was it's like, here's the new boss the same as the old boss. It's that the people that are there are not particularly better than Assad. I don't necessarily disagree and that's why I love Patrick Bitt David's mantra where it's like

51% optimism, 49% paranoia and only paranoia survive. Alright, well right on. Thanks for calling in, brother. paranoia survive. All right. Well, right on. Thanks for calling in, brother. Thanks a lot. All right.

Next up, we're going to grab, what is this? Can-man-sense? Did I say it? I don't know. Okay, so just to answer that question, who found the nanothermite? It was in the 2009 peer-reviewed... Stephen Johnson. Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal, Stephen Jones, Niels Heretz.

Yeah, so it was the Bentham Open Chemical... All right, we're going to jump to the next caller because... Sorry, buddy, but we'll come back. We'll try again. Professor Brian. Howdy. All right, hey, guys. Hey.

Hi, sir. Hello. Who's Abner, bro bro i will mute what he might be getting secondary direction i'll say this one of the issues i take with like architects and engineers for 9-11 is that it's fascinating to me that when it comes to the vaccines everyone's going to choose these are the studies that are correct those studies are wrong when it comes to 9-11 this one guy's study is correct those studies are wrong all When it comes to 9-11, this one guy's study is correct. Those studies are wrong. All that's happening is people are

selecting based on their biases what they want to have occurred based on a plethora of information they can't figure out which is true. My only biases are physics, and I would like to not have... That's not true. It is. It's the near free fall. Why did those things fall near free fall? That's the biggest thing. So there's two explanations, and

you reject one. What was the rejection? Pancake. No, that would indicate not a near free fall. That's not correct. It's exponential. A near free fall is when nothing, the entire thing comes down. Yes. And you read some guy you are claiming is correct and you are not actually someone who's done any of the tests. I've watched hundreds of engineers talk about it, and I watched it in real time over and over and over again. Which proves my point exactly as I stated. There was no pancaking. When it comes to the vaccines, we say those studies are bullshit, those studies are correct. You are saying, I watched a video, that's true.

I've watched hundreds of videos of the thing, and I've listened to hundreds of different engineers talk about it, and architects about demolitions. And I watched hundreds of videos on the vaccine killing people. People are going to choose what studies are true and which are false. I haven't seen any compelling evidence of a pancaking. I've looked for it. I've looked for lots of like what the fuck happened. I worked there, man. This is

a deeply important call. Hold on. Now see, you're falling into logical fallacies because your argument is broken. I literally smelled that shit. It means a lot to me to figure out what really happened because I was there. So it's immaterial to the argument that I made that people are choosing based on their bias what they want to be true. I don't want any of it to be true. I want to know what the truth is.

You have chosen a line of thinking and made determinations based on it. I mean, it's physics. Yeah, I've assumed physics as well. No, you said the government was involved. I don't know that the government was involved. People in the know were involved, you said. Somebody was in there. Yeah.

Right, that's the picture. Somebody those those supports with explosives i don't believe i don't know who all yeah you how would it have fallen in your free fall just because you don't know just answer you can assert that it was a bomb i reject it was a lot of bombs this is this is this is like low order there's also like uh evident like um eyewitnesses talking about pop pop pop pop pop up the building and then the whole thing comes down. They didn't have, like, open windows, and so as the thing was collapsing, it was blowing out windows because of the air pressure. That's what you think?

Yes. You think that the air pressure of the pancake caused the windows to shoot sideways? Shooting outward? You just put it on record that that's what you think, okay? That's what I think. If a pancaking did occur, quite literally, that would happen. Okay. Now show me the pancaking if you think that that's what you think. If a pancaking did occur, quite literally, that would happen. Okay.

Now show me the pancaking if you think that that's what you're showing me. You wouldn't know how to recognize pancaking. I know what it looks like. No, you don't. And then it causes the pressure, causes the collapse. It would even go sideways. You've never seen a pancake happen before. On buildings?

I mean, I know what it looks like when a piece of a building falls into the piece of the building. It's the first pancake you've ever seen in your life. No, it was a near free fall. Name a building that's pancaked. I don't know exactly my point is not that you are right or wrong in the sense that 9-11 was or was not this that or otherwise my point is the covid vaccine comes out and the people who are anti-establishment choose to believe a certain set of studies and the people who are pro-establishment choose to believe a certain set of studies and discerning what is true is particularly difficult there's a pancake there's a pancake. There's a bunch of 9-11 truthers who have determined government was involved, someone in the know was involved, and bombs were planted because they watched a selective set of information.

Despite the fact you've never seen a building pancake before. I just watched a building pancake. You have asserted. I'm watching it, Tim. Pull it up. You have asserted. Let's just pull them up. Rather than talk about what you think, pull up up the evidence how about we just get this caller back

all right i do callers no let's try this caller we've got crafty dwarf maybe you're here crafty come on don't let us down you got this dwarf oh no oh no your audio is warped so maybe turn turn off the set turn off the sound turn off like us if you have us on in the background their microphone's having a problem i don't uh then your microphone's busted laptop mic it's not gonna get much better that's a little bit better that's a little If you have us on in the background, turn it off. Our microphone's having a problem. I don't. Then your microphone's busted. I just have a crappy laptop mic. It's not going to get much better. That's a little bit better.

That's a little bit better. I can hear Phil coming through your speaker, man. I just need to listen to my microphone. You got to turn the speakers off. Speakers off. Hello. Okay. I don't know if I'll be able to hear you in that case. Well, ask your question and then turn it up. And turn your mic off. Right. Turn your mic off. Okay. I don't know if I'll be able to hear you in that case. Well, ask your question and then turn it up.

And turn your mic off. Right. Yeah. Basically, I've been seeing this stuff from Piers Morgan going on in the last couple of days, where Piers Morgan evidently interviewed Taylor Lorenz and a couple other people about the assassination matter. And I was wondering what you guys thought about that because I thought his response and her response on live on air was rather hilarious. Because she was laughing about the matter

and he called her out on it and she just kept laughing. Yeah, we did like a 30-minute segment on it last night. It was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy. Go ahead and turn that down. So, yeah, just go ahead and turn that down. Maybe put some headphones on or something. Yeah, we talked about the insanity that is Taylor Lorenz's response to all of this.

I think we've talked about it a couple times she keeps saying the people support it ignoring the fact that most of the people don't but she's a communist and a cult so she will she's she it's funny because she writes about like the internet but she doesn't realize she's wrapped around this fringe group of people who keep screaming in her face to support her yeah so she's saying insane things, but she thinks it's popular because her insane cohort of cultists keep reinforcing her. I thought it was refreshing to see it, though, to see Piers pin her to the wall on that one.

So yeah, she's insane, and she's a garbage person, too. So... I think that's the overall general opinion we have. Yep. All right.

Definitely get that. She definitely seems to be turning into the next law cow. It's going to be fun that it's coming from a freaking journalist this time. She's definitely turning into the next law guy. That is true. Oh, yeah.

Well, thanks, guys, and let me get me and my crappy mic out of here. All right. Well, thanks for calling in. I appreciate it. So someone asked about how the BBC reported that the building—let me find what the question was. How did the BBC report Building 7 went down 20 minutes before it actually did? There's another thing that I love about the news media. On the day of these events, a whole—there's probably, especially at an event like 9-11, I'd imagine there are 50,000 falsehoods stated by the news.

You latch on to the ones that seem to stand out. This could be easily explained in a lot of ways. The first being they were intending to blow the building and had told the media to report it before they actually did on accident. That's the one that everyone wants to believe. Maybe it's true. It's also possible that 10,000 reporters are full of shit. The fake news lies all the time and they make things up. And so maybe they got word from the police department, this building's coming down. We can't do shit. And so it got reported that they're evacuating the building. Or as Larry Silverstein said, when the firefighters realized they couldn't

defeat the fire, they decided to pull it. And that's what they did. Pull it means dropping a building. This guy is not a construction worker, so I'm not sure if he would know what pull it actually meant. So people are choosing to believe he meant pull as in demolition, which is jargon. I don't believe Larry Silverstein is—I don't believe it's likely or fair to assume he would know the jargon. So pull it or pull out would refer to pulling out of a building. But he said pull it. Right. He knew what was happening.

They demolished it. See, this is why I can't stand this. What did he mean when he said pull it? Pull out. He didn't say pull out. He said, I told them to pull it, so they pulled it. They decided to pull it. And that's what we ultimately ended up doing. tower two fell on top of building seven, crushing the top of it from the center,

combined with gas tanks exploding all over the building, and extended fire that was burning since 9 a.m. till 5 p.m., causing the building to collapse. I'm not saying that's true. The building crimps down and falls down in a very strange way, indicating it was a shit building. But I got a better conspiracy for you, Ian. In the 1970s, when they were building the World Trade Center, buildings in this country are built by the lowest bidder. So New York City decides we're going to build two large skyscrapers, each 110 or however many floors, and we're going to put it out to bid. Company A, what's your bid? $100 million.

Company B, what's your bid? $90 million. Company C, what's your bid? $70 million. Company A and Company B go, what? $70 million? You can't build those bid? $70 million. Company A and Company B go, what? $70 million? You can't build those things for $70 million. And they say, we're better than you, and we'll get it done.

City says, OK, Port Authority, bang, $70 million to build these two skyscrapers. The guy goes back to his office, and he says, we got the contract for the World Trade Center. Big news. We're going to make a shitload of money, $70 million. His partner goes, are you fucking nuts? We can't build 210 skyscrapers for $70 million. He goes, don't worry. I worked it out.

The center support columns, we'll pull those. That's going to save us $13 million right off the top. Come on. A plane's never going to fucking hit this building. What do we have to worry about? So they cut corners to put money in their pockets. And then 30, 40 years later, a plane's never going to fucking hit this building. What do we have to worry about? So they cut corners to put money in their pockets. And then 30, 40 years later, a plane hits it. It falls down and everyone goes,

there's no way a plane knocked that down. It is infinitely more logical to believe that the corporate interests and the government structure of contracts to the lowest bidder means the corporation cut corners to put money in their pocket and intentionally offered a low bid because they wanted to win, and the buildings were just built like fucking shit.

Do you have any evidence? Do you have evidence of that? I don't need any evidence because you don't have any evidence of bombs either. It has nothing to do with me. Are you saying, okay, I'm reading about who designed, it was designed by Minoru Yamasaki and his firm, Emery Roth & Sons. The engineering work was done by Worthington Skilling, Helen Jackson, and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey constructed the complex, which included the Twin Towers, one World Trade Center, two World Trade Centers,

as well as five other buildings. If you have evidence that they skimped, that's big time. I don't need evidence. Well, if you're going to propose the— Well, if you're going to propose there were bombs, what's your evidence? That the guy on the site was like, I heard bombs go up and also the controlled demolition. What controlled demolition? The near freefall speed of powers one, two, and seven.

The guy saying pull it. You are spinning in circles. No, I'm explaining the answer. That's the evidence. Larry Silverstein, pull it. So they pulled it. That's a demolition talk. How can so many people, though, keep this a secret in the modern media age if there was this vast conspiracy in our government i understand like we're talking about lee harvey oswald i think bombs i mean now

like it seems like that would have leaked and you and you do know the manhattan project argument is wrong the what a lot of these 9-11 truthers like to say is the manhattan project they kept 300,000 people it's wrong i got the life fucking magazines the people who worked on the manhattan project were speculators of what they were building it was compartmentalalized. They knew something was being built. The Russians were trying to figure it out. The Nazis were trying to figure it out. There was speculation it was going to be a death laser beam. There was speculation it was going to be a nuclear bomb. Everybody working on the project knew it was a massive military project that was creating some kind of powerful weapon, but nobody knew what it was because it was compartmentalized. So the idea

that they could plant bombs in the World Trade Centers, that they could then detonate three buildings and bomb the Pentagon, and not a single person could talk about the strange operation that involved 17,000 people over the course of three months to layer nanothermite projectiles in the elevator shafts. It's like, dude, I'm not saying I know what happens,

and I definitely don't believe the official story. That's retarded. The Saudis probably had some involvement. It's like, dude, I'm not saying I know what happens. And I definitely don't believe the official story. That's retarded. The Saudis probably had some involvement. That's fine. But my point is, you can't assert they were bombs. That's made up. I can also at the same regard, if you're going to say bombs were planted, I can then easily say the corporations cut costs in the central support columns is a much more plausible explanation than bombs were planted. See, here's the thing. You can't explain when and how the bombs were planted and how no one noticed. I don't need to explain in my argument.

Mine is the simple solution. Corporations cut corners all the time. And when they were building it, they skimped on central supports to save money to put in their pockets. They were skimming off the top to enrich themselves. That's probably not even shocking to anybody. Then when the plane actually hit it, why did it collapse the way it did, looking at near freefall speeds?

Because the company that built it removed central support columns to save millions of dollars. Why did Building 7 fall near freefall? Same reason. Didn't get hit by a plane. Same reason. Didn't get hit by a plane. You just said a plane.

The top of Building 2 fell on it. Are you sure about that? Yes. Fragments of the building as it collapsed. Crushes of a building touched the top of another building and the entire thing came down a near free fall. Ian, don't do it. No, no, I'm asking. Is this literally

you think that's more likely? Ian, you're losing the argument. I'm going to warn you. I already won the argument, Tim. You've lost. Oh, God. Not a single person said a tiny piece touched the roof. You said part of the roof of building two landed on the roof of building seven, which was how many blocks away? One. You do realize the debris from the World Trade Center went miles.

Yeah, sure. It exploded, fucking went flying. I'm going to pause you real quick. Way far away. I'm going to pause you real quick, Ian. I said a building fell on another building, and then you reframed it and said a piece of the building touched the roof. Yeah.

That indicates you've lost the argument in your own mind. You're saying part of the roof of building two fell on building seven. Fragments of the World Trade Center's collapse hit building seven. And I am not asserting I know why building seven collapsed. Okay. I am only asserting that it is a simpler solution that the companies that constructed them pulled important materials to make money than it is for you to imply bombs. If you have evidence of that, I'm on board, man. I don't need evidence.

No, no. You're making a proportion. And so are you. Yes. Right. And mine makes less assumptions. I have documented evidence of nanothermite and a free fall. From one guy.

Which indicates, from a scientific journal that it was printed in, and that indicates that it was a demolition. No, it doesn't. Near free fall speed of a building when you have nanothermite, which is a military grade incendiary all in the dust,

indicates that the beams were melted and the thing was demolished. I don't think... Buildings don't fall in near free fall when they're not being demolished. I don't think you have

the capacity to understand your own biases. Dude, I've been open-minded about this for 20 years, man. You are not open-minded at all. You are the most closed-minded person I've ever talked to. You're like, maybe a guy didn't pay the bills. That's called open-minded. Oh yeah, okay, well

show me some evidence then, bro. You said bombs were planted. I just offered you the scientific journal that this was printed in where the nanothermite was discovered. Pull it up. No, all about him. He was a professor at Brigham Young University. Stephen Jones, that's his name? Brigham Young University said he found evidence of nanothermite, and you know how he did it? Do you know how he found the nanothermite?

People have been collecting the dust and sending it in since... Do you know how he initially released his report indicating nanothermite? No, tell me. He looked at pictures, aerial photos, molten steel indicating that there was a material that would have melted the steel to which he believed was going to be thermite. Now, nanothermite is a phrase being used by the conspiracy theorists to justify how someone could have planted thermite-based explosives without being detected. Occam's razor suggests in the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct. A corporation pulling on central supports to save money is infinitely more simple

than your conspiracy of a network of people planting bombs over the period of weeks. I don't think so. I mean, if you've got evidence of it, then yeah. But if you don't have evidence of it, it's a silly assumption. What assumption? That they skimped on the... There were no central columns in the buildings and that's why they fell down? Do corporations skim?

Sometimes. It's a fact. They do. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that the guys that built the building 50 years or 40 years earlier... Does the contract go to the lowest bidder? I don't know. Fact. Yes, it does. Not always. Sometimes it goes to your buddy. This was... Oh, even worse. There you go. The guy got his buddy the deal and they didn't know how to build it well there you go authority built it that's a great theory ian the construction company that

got the job didn't actually know how to build these buildings and built it wrong i didn't say that i said sometimes you pay more to give it to a premium builder see the problem i have so infinitely um like the covington kids, is the people who come out and say outright, I know, and they have no idea what they're talking about. Well, I know a few things. I know those buildings fell near freefall. You believe because someone told you they fell at freefall? No, I watched it.

You've calculated. What's freefall speed? 9.8 meters per second squared, roughly. Okay. And what's your source on that? That's the fucking speed of gravity, dude. Where'd you learn that? Physics class. Right. And what's your source on that? That's the fucking speed of gravity, dude. Where'd you learn that? Physics class. Right.

So you watched a video where someone told you that, and you went, whoa. Watched a video where someone told me what? That the building fell at freefall speed. Oh, I watched the buildings fall near freefall speed over and over from different angles. I get it. And I heard scientists and engineers and architects talk about it. You live in a bubble. It's called Earth. No, it's called Ian Land.

You live in like deluded, don't want to think about these things land. I don't understand. Where's your brain? Construction of logic to come from. There's no logic in assuming something you don't have evidence for. What you do, Ian,

is you draw a conclusion and then try and find your way there. No, man, I was given the evidence. That's what you're doing. That's why I'm finding my way there. I'm following evidence. You just said it's more likely that this thing with I have no evidence has occurred as occurred. Ian, I don't think you're able to understand what I'm

saying. You said that it's more likely that they skimped on the building materials and that the central columns were not built and were built in property for several weeks. OK, and I'm saying that's a fact. That's an interesting assumption. And if you really think that's more likely, give me something. It's not an assumption. And if you really think that's more likely, give me something. It's not an assumption. Ian, I don't think you're able to comprehend what's going on. I mean, it's more likely that you are emotionally attached to your worldview of 9-11 being inside your house. It's not emotions, dude.

It's physics. You can't comprehend the amount of steps it takes to complete the process of planting bombs in a building versus a construction company not doing a thing? Do you understand that one is three steps and one is 17? Yeah. Which would indicate that one is- No, no. I mean, they were in there for like 11 months. There was one elevator company in there for 11 months before- And you're making assumptions. Who knows who was in there doing it, but it could have been complex. It could have been- Let's say, how many months would it take for a company to not put central support columns in a building? Actually, negative. Negative months.

They would get the job done faster. But they had central support columns, dude. You don't know that. Well, I mean, no one ever in the world has ever said that they didn't after they came down. Maybe you haven't done the research. I'll look it up right now. You're making a bunch of assumptions. Even NIST shows the central support columns crumpling.

Maybe they're lying because they didn't want to tell people that they built a faulty building full of asbestos. I'm looking up. Did World Trade Center have central support columns? So how many of your 9-11 investigators and engineers have actually reviewed the construction plans and verified that those columns were actually there this is i mean i listened to that one of the architects that

built the building talking about it um the word this says that they didn't have central support columns instead they had an innovative tube design perimeter support columns 59 columns on each face of the building three to four feet in the center in in on center, three foot, four inches. Let's try and get these collars back and see if they're here. And a core column of 47 steel giant box collars. Professor Bryan, are you back? Yes, sir, I'm back. What is up?

Yes, I've been here the whole time. I haven't left because I am a longtime caller, first-time listener. That's an old joke. Sorry. Anyway. That's an old joke. Sorry. Anyway. It's okay. My question is, it's for the whole panel. I've been watching the social media, and it seems to me that there's an effort afoot

to downplay what happened in New York a couple nights ago, where a man was murdered in cold blood on the street. And now that it looks like the perpetrator of said murder has been apprehended, social media, leftist social media, is trying to turn this guy into some kind of folk hero. How can we push back against this narrative? Because it's sickening to me.

Well, that's why when I opened the show, I explained that his manifesto indicates that he's a moron. And we need to expose his manifesto to show people him saying, I can't formulate an argument. Because then when they all say he's a folk hero, you can say, actually, he was just some retard who had no idea what he was talking about and killed a guy. Tell me how his plan did anything to make anything better,

and I'll listen, but you can't. It's just some young guy who couldn't understand how the world worked and was angry and couldn't have sex. And you guys worship an incel. I mean, that's one way to do it. You can play the emotional game and be like, you guys are working with an incel guy who got mad. He couldn't have sex. So he killed the CEO. You guys are fucking losers. Yeah. Also it dispassionately like make understand and express that the guy is killing a guy doesn't solve the health care problem like that that takes lots of structural change within our food supply all right thanks guys for your answer and hey tim and the kids hate it when y'all fight so figure out a way all right i'll i'll yield

the floor all right well thanks for calling in i don't consider that fighting i don't know about you guys that's an argument which is a healthy form of discussion i think that you know we're Hello, can you hear me? Yes, sir. Okay, cool. Uh, uh, uh, so, I'm gonna get right into it. Uh, a man legally changed his gender so that he could get his kids back. What? Really? Yes. Uh, this happened, uh, actually, apparently this is kind of an old story. It's about two years old. What? Really? Yes. This happened... Actually, apparently this is kind of an old story.

It's about two years old. This happened down in Ecuador. I haven't got any updates on it. I couldn't find anything saying whether or not it actually worked. But someone in Canada also illegally changed their gender so they could get a reduced car insurance payment. That was Lauren Southern. That wasn't for car insurance. I think she just did it to prove it.

Really? Yeah, Lauren Southern was like, I'm just going to go get my gender changed because I can. And then she walked in and they did it. And she's a man i'm pretty sure she still she still is a man in canada she's illegally a man in canada i didn't i didn't know that uh the person i'm talking was a dude that changed their gender to female to get their conscience reduced down to reduced by 1100 oh wow but uh is this this the solution to fighting against the male gender discrimination? Nope. They're cheering for it. The left is saying we they think like we've we've tricked them into doing what we want them to do. They're not men are not claiming to be women for benefits. Good. We win. Like Zuby, when he identified as a woman to break the female

deadlift title, it was like a shock. But I don't think it's a sustainable solution. Now, I do know that when the when the guy changed his gender to become a female, there was massive outrage and backlash on it. So I definitely I don't think i wouldn't exactly call that chewing uh you wouldn't call it what i wouldn't call that chewing yeah like a lot of people on the left were pissed about it yeah like if there's a problem and someone's like look at how horrible this problem is that's good to do once. But then if people stand around and keep like reveling in the horror of the problem, that's a problem.

So you kind of want to bring attention to the issue, be like, look how stupid this is, and then fix it. you know, enhancing healthy gender stereotypes, like strong masculine roles, strong feminine roles in family and in friendships and relationships and things. You still there? Fuck! It sounded like you were screaming fuck just then what's happening I got fucked up hips I

I need a specialized surgery where they literally have to like break my hips and extend out my stock or some shit like that. Don't kill an insurance CEO. Fuck yeah. Have you ever done inversion tables? Is that something that could potentially help you?

No, my hip sockets are too shallow. It's a genetic thing. So you're getting the surgery, you're going to break something open and extend it? I don't really know the detail. I'm not a doctor, but I have a consultation that's supposed to be on the 18th about them cutting me open, breaking my hip, and extending the socket or something like that. I think that's what they got to do. That's amazing uh although with because some bullshit from uh with insurance that might get pushed back like four months even though i've been waiting on it for like six wow that's like

literally topical rest oh just in general man much healing for you brother appreciate it is there anything you want to do a shout out uh not really uh can i make one quick point on that 9-11 thing i'm not supposed to talk on other points that y'all go for it but do you think I'd make one quick point? Yeah, go for it. There were some Israeli art students that had temporary construction passes

to the trade towers, which could be a possible vector as to how bombs were placed inside the building. You said it was Israeli, what were they? Art students. Oh, art students.

Yes, and this was also at the same time where Israeli art students were going around to different DEA offices and I don't know if they were asking for information or they were doing something at different DEA offices across the country.

Maybe trying to get info or something. I don't exactly remember. It's been a while since I've looked into it. Well, all right. So, yeah, that is definitely a possible vector. All right. Well, thanks for calling in. Yeah, you guys have a wonderful night. Stay safe.

You too, man. Take care. So I'll just say this. People get extremely emotionally attached to their worldviews around 24 when the human mind begins to solidify, as it were. This is the point at which your worldview is being ossified. I'll just say that. And the reason for this, at this point, people have determined their worldview is correct and cannot be changed. A second period in someone's life around the age, in their 40s, is when their mind reopens and adjusts. This is a normal period. This is a lot to do with evolutionary psychology.

The reason for this is, in evolution, a human who survives the age of 24 has done something that has led to success. It becomes imperative to maintain that position to maximize success. That's why people who are beyond the age of 24, between 24 and 40s, tend to be close-minded and will suffer emotional distress and mental anguish when their worldview is challenged. This is why they say science changes when old men die, or science advances when old men die. Around 40s, there's another period at which the mind readjusts and begins to review things. It's also part of evolutionary psychology rooted in a human that has survived this long. Now, evolution recognized any human that was adhering to old structures at this point, it wasn't that evolution chose this, it's that you would die

if you didn't adapt. That's why people have midlife crises is one of the reasons. So what ends up happening is there's a lot of people who at an early age will read things, choose to believe them when it is a fact that the average person hasn't read all of it. They can't. They will then make a determination of what is true and adhere to it with emotional vigor to the point where they actually experience physical pain when they're confronted with evidence to the contrary. A good example of what ends up happening with what I would use 9-11, for instance, is, well, I'll give you this one, Ratfink, saying that I stand on shit I have no idea about and I never studied, despite the

fact that I correctly said Stephen Jones was a was a was a professor at Brigham Young University because a person who sits and reads nothing but the Internet all day has probably read way too much of all of this and watched way too much. Not only that, I was actually part of an activist group in the mid 2000s who were 9-11 truthers and ultimately said these people don't actually have any answers to anything they're talking about. The bomb scenario of bombs being planted in the building is similar to the problems of string theory, which evolved into M-theory. Physicists realized they dedicated their whole lives to string theory but couldn't reconcile a lot of the problems, decided to add extra

dimensions, and thus they created membrane theory. A friend of mine, his father was a physics professor at a university in Chicago, and he said, yeah, we think M-theory is probably correct, but you got to understand that a lot of these old scientists dedicate their careers and their lives to this, and when you go and tell them they may be wrong, they lose their fucking minds. So when Garrett Lisi created the exceptionally simple theory of everything, which he believes the universe unified theory is simply an E8 lie group, this actually offended a fuck ton of scientists. They decided that it was easier just to say, no, our theory must be correct. We've dedicated our entire fucking lives to it. Add another goddamn dimension. So now they got to 13. And their argument was maybe at the smallest of scales, there could be additional

dimensions we didn't notice yet. That explains it. Dark matter and dark energy, another component of this. We can't explain what it is. So we're just going to not give up on our theories because they have to be true. So what ends up happening with things like 9-11 is that people have followed this path for so long where certainly they've not read every bit of evidence. And certainly the only people who are continuing to investigate it are in a similar line where they say 9-11 was an inside job. Not everybody. Some just say investigate 9-11. But typically common among most of them is a conclusion that the story is false, which I believe to be correct. The official narrative makes no fucking sense. And that

elements within the government had to have been involved. It could have been Saudis and Israelis who did it without the U.S. government knowing. It could have been, as I already mentioned, several steps. It's a simpler solution that construction companies did not engage in the proper securing of the buildings because they wanted to steal money. That's a really simple solution. It takes only one step. Guy steals money, whereas planting bombs takes numerous steps over 11 months and is extremely difficult to reconcile. How could that have been done? Certainly it's possible, but it makes a lot of assumptions. The issue with the bomb theory

is that to justify the pancake and the squibs and all of these things, these arguments that have been made, you have to then add the bombs were planted theory, which is extremely difficult and is shoe is shoehorned in for a lot of people who are now probably in their late 30s and 40s who grew up watching things like loose

change and loose change second edition and then followed people like Stephen Jones or Luke Kasky and Alex Jones. They've only ever heard the confirmation bias. Thus, they have determined themselves. My bias must be correct. And I reject any and all other evidence or theories. Me, I was part of a group in Seattle. We actually went around flyering at U-dubs. And then I remember exactly when I said, this is retarded. It's when we watched Alex Jones Endgame and all these people were talking shit. And I said, none of the questions that I had actually ever got answered.

And you're making a fucking ton of assumptions. And I was like, how and when would they have done these things? Then you get to the Israelis on the rooftop. And I said, guys, this doesn't prove what you're saying. It proves Israelis on the rooftop cheering could mean a bunch of different things. Yeah. But what about the Jews who got a call the day before saying not to show up? What about Mayor Willie Brown being warned? All of these things. And I'm like, I agree. The official story is bullshit, but it doesn't prove what you're saying is true. It doesn't prove bombs. And that's what I said. The official story is bullshit, but it doesn't prove what you're saying is true. It doesn't prove bombs.

And that's what I said. These people just want to believe whatever the fuck they want to believe. The official story is bullshit. Someone did something bad. We don't know what the fuck it was. And people are just deciding they know it's true because they followed this path and they don't want to give it up. That's my rant. Good rant, man.

You're my number one draft pick. Sure. Hey, well, I mean, I'm with you. It is so important that we don't fall for our own biases. So I like having people like you in my life that at least challenge me to read about, like, for instance, the actual columns of what the World Trade Centers were built out of, not your traditional columns. They took all of the materials from the 9-11 collapse and shuffled it off to be destroyed

before anyone could investigate. So to assert that we know that there was thermite, despite the fact we know that they destroyed all the evidence, is silly. Then they say, but people have pieces of the World Trade Center and they've sent it in for analysis. And I'm like, OK, so we have that's a maybe. And we also know they covered it up. We don't, it's hard to verify that the samples that were given are uncontaminated because we know that we don't have any firsthand evidence because they destroyed it all. That's indicative of a cover-up and the official story being bullshit. That's an easy conclusion.

I don't care what the media says. But to then say we know for sure, like nanothermite, nanothermite's a conspiracy term. Nanothermite is a way of getting around the fact that planting thermite bombs would be damn near impossible. So it's nano now. It's super small. It's like military grade. Your average dude could make a thermite which will melt steel, but this nanothermite they'll use in tanks in the field to decommission them.

They'll melt the steel tank from the inside so that the enemy can't take the tank because it's too expensive to bring home. There's no passport that fell off a plane that's retarded. They're using it to justify their official cover-up of what really happened. We don't know. The government would never tell us. Anyone who believes the official story is a moron because the government's not going to give away classified secrets as to how we got fucked over on that day, be it internal forces or external foreign forces. The fact is we don't actually know. Everybody wants to find out.

I don't blame them for wanting to find out. But I'll add one last thing. A guy saying he heard bombs going off. He's hearing pops and bangs and explosions. People don't know what they're hearing. I was in Ferguson when gunshots were going off and the fucking fat guy from ABC goes, those fireworks? And I'm on the ground with my buddy who is a war reporter.

And I said, do you see any fucking fireworks? No. I'm like, do you see guns? And he's like, yes. I'm like, get the fuck down. People don't know what things sound like. But anyway we went way over I gotta go to bed this has been fun thank y'all so much for being members Colonel Kurtz needs medical attention

I appreciate y'all how you feeling man I had a great time though alright we'll be back tomorrow morning of course and thanks for hanging out we'll see y'all then