Timcast IRL - Dan Bongino ACCEPTS Deputy FBI Director, SECRET NSA CHATS EXPOSED w/Joey Mannarino

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Shane are joined by Joey Mannarino to discuss Dan Bongino tapped as Deputy FBI Director, FBI agents panicking over Dan Bongino accepting Deputy FBI Director position, NSA agents exposed t...alking about dangerous kinks in government chat rooms, and Dan Crenshaw threatening to kill Tucker Carlson. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Shane @ShaneCashman (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Joey Mannarino @JoeyMannarinoUS (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Unqualified henchman. That's what The Guardian is, how they're referring to Dan Bongino. So Dan Bongino has accepted the deputy FBI director role. It was an amazing show he put on this morning. He had something like a quarter of a million people watching live. Very few people believed it at first, to be completely honest. When I saw the news that Trump had said Kash Patel is choosing Dan Bongino for the deputy director of the FBI, I'm like, Dan would have to give up so much wealth, power, fame, celebrity to be a civil servant.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Is it really believable? And not only that, but come on, it's like a dream come true. I mean, this guy, Dan Bongino, is on the forefront of calling out the corruption in government. How could we be so lucky? And it is true. He has accepted. And it is absolutely incredible. Of course, the media Democrats, they're losing their minds over this. You've got the elite class fake journalists who are, for some reason, so offended over
Starting point is 00:01:02 what's happening to the FBI. And I'm just wondering what their vested interest in this. And I don't understand why they'd be mad about Dan Bongino. Unless, of course, you realize Donald Trump is dismantling the bureaucratic state and they're freaking out over it. Then, of course, you have Elon Musk, who sent an email out to everybody saying, what do you do? And if you don't answer, you're fired. Now they're complaining about this. And it's just it's the it's the craziest thing that for once we have an effort to clean up corruption in government and restore more rights to the people. And you've got these liberals and the corporate press acting like the opposite is happening. Huh. So we'll talk about all that, plus some
Starting point is 00:01:40 other really crazy stories on the lead, of course, NSA, CIA and other deep state chat chats leaked. These people were using government chat rooms to engage in, let's just call it adult behavior with each other. We'll try to keep it family friendly, but these chats got leaked and they're very creepy and disturbing. And then Dan Crenshaw said he was going to take the life of Tucker Carlsonson claimed he didn't on X the video came out he did yo this is really weird what happened to Dan Crenshaw
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Starting point is 00:02:45 We're going to have the green. I'm sorry. The Green Room show is up now. You can check out behind the scenes shows at Rumble dot com. Become a Rumble premium user. And if you want to watch the uncensored call in show tonight at 10 p.m., where you as members of our discord call in and talk to us, you got to go to Rumble, sign up for Rumble premium using promo code Tim one zero. So don't forget to also smash that like button, Share the show with everyone you know. Seriously, right now, if you're watching and you like what we do, paste that URL. Tell your friends to come and watch the show with you. Word of mouth is the best way to help podcasts. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Joey Manorino. Thank you for having me. Congratulations, Tim.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Thank you very much. Who are you? What do you do? So I do political fundraising and I tweet. And I've been doing that tweeting for about since 2018, political fundraising since 2020. And that's about it. All right. Simple. Yeah, we've had you on several times before, so it's good to have you back. Great to be here. Thanks for joining us. We got Shane hanging out.
Starting point is 00:03:37 What's up? Host of Inverted World Live. Last night we had the great Richie McGinnis on. We talked about a biolab in Long Island that created chimeras, time travel experiments, and his experiences in the Chaz and the different riots. It was a great episode. You can find it at Tales from the Inverted World on YouTube and Rumble now. What's up, Phil? What do you know about time travel? I do it every day to get here. Fair enough. I'm Phil Labonte, the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's go. Before we get started, my friends, you may have noticed I was not here on Thursday or
Starting point is 00:04:08 Friday. And that is because my child was born. And it was incredible. Shout out to Phil for picking up the show without word or notice. It was really funny because it's like four in the morning. Allison's like, I think the baby's coming. And so I tweeted before messaging Phil like Phil's hosting and I know Phil's probably gonna wake up and be like wait what like just look at the tweet
Starting point is 00:04:28 just text me the link to that's how I found out I was like got this no sweat but he knew I said it before on the show I was like sooner you know because uh it was a couple weeks early but still full term everything was everything's great baby's very healthy and happy we're very excited and I was like I told you guys at any moment I'm going to be gone and be gone. And the only the only advice I'll give as of right now as a first time parents, don't wait. If you are thinking about it, have kids, man, because it is it is is magic is absolute magic. So we'll probably get into a little bit more maybe on the uncensored calling show. I'll talk a little bit about it on the Green Room podcast we recorded with Joey and Chuck.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I was basically telling the whole story of like how everything happened. So you can check that out once it goes up in about an hour or so. But let's jump into this news and stop talking about me and talk about you. Here's a story from The Guardian. I love it. Unqualified henchmen fears rise as Trump names far right podcaster as FBI deputy director. Now, what I really love about this is that Kash Patel named Dan Bongino formally as he is the FBI director. And we're big fans. But we all know is actually Trump. Like no one's no one's pretending it's not. Dan Bongino had said in the past he would only join. He would only work for the government if Trump personally asked. Some things are more important. So this is big. Let's just throw away all of the fake writing from the corporate press. We can talk about their
Starting point is 00:05:54 smears in a second. But let me just say this. Dan Bongino is on the forefront of calling out the corruption in government, in the bureaucracy, in the deep state. There's a reason why he has one of the biggest podcasts in the world. He has the biggest live podcast in the world, unquestionably, routinely getting upwards of 170,000 concurrent viewers this morning at a quarter of a million. Now, it's crazy. I am first. Let me just say I've been on a show before. He's been on our show. He's a very straightforward guy. He was a cop for a couple of years. Then he was a secret special agent in the Secret Service. So he's got law enforcement experience, but he's got deep political understanding. So I think this is an excellent choice. It is what dreams are made of for all of us. We're all surprised. Hard to believe it's true.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So I'm very excited for what Dan is going to do because Dan has called out so much of this corruption. The fact that he's there, I'm feeling really, really great is going to do because Dan has called out so much of this corruption. The fact that he's there, I'm feeling really, really great. But I want to just say this. Dan Bongino, with the show as big as his, I hope you all understand. I don't have the hard numbers on how much money he makes, but based on his viewership, I'm spitballing $10 to $30 million somewhere in that range per year. Here's a man who built up this big audience. He can read ads all day and talk about how he feels with the news. He can be as wealthy as a king could ever dream of. He could want for nothing. I mean, you're talking 30 million bucks a year. This is owning your own
Starting point is 00:07:18 private jet level. This is flying around in a Gulfstream, getting Italian ice cream delivered for breakfast. And he said, you know what? I'm going to be a civil servant instead for like a minimal salary. And that to me, you know, I tweeted, people need to understand the sacrifice he's making to do this. Because I don't know that I could, like, you know, I worked so hard to build this company. If Trump said, we want you to do a civil servant job, we're going to pay you a six-figure salary, I'd be like, I don't know, man, like I walk away from everything I built and all my plans and all my dreams. I mean, I don't think Dan Bongino had his five year plan being like, and then I'll stop building one of
Starting point is 00:07:53 the biggest shows in the world in my network and go be a civil servant. But I think for Dan, it's very obvious what his priorities are and his priorities. It lends itself to his show when he goes on his show and he says, I am sick of the corruption. People clap for me. Yes. And then Trump says, want to deal with it? Yes, I do. And so he doesn't care about the money. He cares about everything he's ever talked about that made his show so big. So shout out to Dan Bongino, man. Absolutely incredible stuff. But so I'll throw it to you guys. So I don't keep ranting on this one. I'm just deeply inspired by Dan, willing to step away from all this to do the right thing. But dream come true.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Absolutely. No, I got I got a text from my dad. He sent me the truth social post from Trump. And I said, oh, you know, you got to vet those better because that's that's impossible. Then I go on Twitter and everybody's talking about Dan Bongino is the oh my. I'm like, what are we really going to do this? We're really going to do this. So we have Kash Patel and Dan Bongino running the FBI.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And you got to think of these things. When you think back to when Trump, quote unquote, lost 2020, right? You would never have had anything like this in 2020. You would never have had Kash Patel running the FBI. These are not things you can think of. RFK at HHS, Tulsi Gabbard, DNI. We had to go through what we went through to get what we're getting now. And we're getting the dream team of all dream teams.
Starting point is 00:09:06 These are patriots beyond any imagination. Bongino, if anyone's going to clean house. Talk about life insurance for Kash Patel. Kash Patel just became assassination proof. But this guy right here, no, this is going to be the clean out of all clean outs. And Adam Schiff, I would not want to be him today. Yeah, he just left the country. Did he really?
Starting point is 00:09:25 No, I don't know. Can we take the passport real quick? When they announced Dan Bongino, that was the first thing I tweeted, a picture of cash, and Dan and I was like, start tracking those private flights out of the country. Yeah. So I don't want to make light of all the bad things that happened because of COVID.
Starting point is 00:09:43 A lot of people lost their lives. because of covid a lot of people lost their lives it was really a lot of people lost their businesses but there's a part of me that thinks that covid might have saved america covid was a blessing i i i understand what you're saying i'm i'm delicate i'm not look what happened to the country we are here now because of the unfortunate circumstances of the world being mutilated by covid i i i agree with your with your broader point again i don't want to be insensitive to the people that were hurt but it really was it really did wake a lot of people up there's there's an entire generation of people that will never trust the government never fully trust the government and at the very
Starting point is 00:10:20 least will never trust the the establishment government so maybe there'll be people that are like okay i i think that someone like dan bongino and kash patel um i think maybe i'll trust them maybe i can trust rfk and and not trust that they're always going to be right but trust that their intentions are good if they make a mistake if they if something bad happens you don't have you're not going to feel like i maybe they did that on purpose which is something that everybody in america well not everybody but so many americans kind of have that inclination now maybe you know it's like so when you were told you have you you can't you shouldn't wear masks in the beginning of covid and and then come to find out the reason they said that was
Starting point is 00:11:03 because they wanted to make sure that doctors and and and people that were were dealing with sick people had the masks and then come to find out that they were wrong about that too they were wrong about whether you needed them ventilators yeah and and the ventilators and all that stuff and you come and they never actually said we're sorry about this they there was no remorse. There was all the deal with it, close your business, all those things. They were given pardons. Yes. For their action over this period of time. And just to add to your point, Fauci had an interview where he was talking about why you should wear masks.
Starting point is 00:11:39 A news reporter said, well, then maybe two masks will help. And Fauci literally goes, you don't need to wear two masks. But the news picked up the talking point and decided to run with our two masks better than one double mask. And the news media narrative looped back on the CDC, overriding what Fauci had originally said. And all of a sudden people were double masking. It is this mass formation psychosis that ultimately results in these weird policies that ultimately resulted in a backlash. So I would call it a shock to the system. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:14 We needed it. And now Dan Bongino is deputy FBI director. to that like people like tulsi gabbard who was on this the quiet skies list now running the dni people like uh badachare who was who was you know blacklisted for for years because of his takes on covid now he's running the uh i forget what department he's running but he's he's playing an integral role that was literally one of the people that that had blacklisted and people like rfk you have certain there's a certain amount of confidence that you can have that these people are not going to be falling in line with whatever the government says now again they can make mistakes they are not perfect they will they will make mistakes there's there the bureaucracy is still a bureaucracy, and bureaucracies are inclined to make errors.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But at least you can safely say, I think that they're not trying to lie to me in order to save face for international organizations like the UN or like the NWO, you know, the World Health... Right. You know what I mean? And that is a great, great thing. It's a huge thing. the UN or like the NWO, you know, the World Health Day. You know what I mean? And that is a great, great thing.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So the question I got for you, Joey, is who do you think Dan goes after first? As in who? It could be a person or a group? Is it going to be cartels? Is it going to be... Maybe it's just... Oh, sorry. It's hard to know. You're talking about the FBI. You're talking about so many criminals going on. I know we want to see the big names. We want to see the big senators go down the big. I don't believe that's where he's going to go right away because it's just not that wouldn't work. You have to get a big unifying thing. Right. I think I think cartels are a perfect option. He could do that. I don't know. You could see a lot of these gangs that are in here. The MS-13s, Tendier Agua. He's talking about that a lot, too. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:06 We have no idea. There's so much to go after. J6. Justice for J6 would be out of this world. Well, let me say this. A lot of the moves that Trump and his team are making are indicative of targeting the resources of the deep state, the bureaucracy. Yeah. So obviously, you know, what was Trump's quote or something about there's not going to be blue states what did he say do you remember that quote no yeah let me see if i can pull that that one up trump said something that in fact uh not i forgot what he said the leftists were all freaking out uh and they're like this means he's gonna attack you know a big surprise uh what is that quote i can't remember the exact quote was but you've got these stories popping up i'll just throw this one in there where blue states fear invasion by red states and National Guard.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Like this is the talking points we're getting from the left about Trump basically ending their ability to vote, whatever. I call this Donald Trump's march to the sea. He's gutting the resources, USAID, the spending that has circled back and been funding these leftist organizations. So it does seem like first and foremost, Trump's strategy is how can we stop them from getting back power? Yes. In which case for Dan and Cash, the first moves may be why was Trump's home raided? Why wasn't Biden prosecuted? What happened on J6? What did they know? And when did they know? I think Bongino and Cash have to go after FBI leadership right away. I've been I've been in contact with an FBI whistleblower since the end of last year who's been caught up in lawfare against the FBI for years.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And her story is just like Marcus Allen's story. Marcus Allen testified before the Congress last year, and he said they just rule with fear and reprisal, and they were trying to clean house of anyone who might have had conservative values or went against leadership. So these people are just using taxpayer money to fund their negligence and their lawfare against actual whistleblowers who are calling out unethical practices. And they've been weaponized. The FBI has been weaponized against us.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That's why the cash appointment is my favorite one. I love them all. That's great. But destroying the FBI would be amazing and rebuilding it to something that it actually should be you have to rebuild it you do have to have and better investigations but what we have had right now it's just been a criminal organization i did find it you've got this story popping up all over the place trump reveals surprise and warns blue states will disappear off the map there are people that believe that he will literally annihilate the states is he gonna do there are people that are that crazy they're like hey hey all of these leftists i did this today i spent an hour just going through all of these leftist subreddits where they're all claiming civil war is coming and the best part is these
Starting point is 00:16:35 very same liberal pundits we're calling you names no no so not only were mocking me for suggesting we were on track to a civil war talking about about, look, I didn't make it up. It's a bunch of articles in the press saying civil war, civil strife, et cetera. You got a guy, Stephen Marsh, writing a book about it. I'm like, man, this is crazy. And so these liberals, these prominent podcasts are like Tim Pool's crazy. He's always talking about civil war. Now, in their very own subreddits, their very own audience is spam blasting either calls for civil war or warnings that a civil war is coming.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And I'm like, I wonder what changed. And all of a sudden you think this is going to happen. I mean, look, I've said this before. If there's going to be some kind of civil unrest, civil uprising, let it be while the conservatives are in control of the government. There you go. If it's got to happen, let it be while the conservatives are in control. For one reason, it will keep things stable.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Like when I look at what Democrats were doing in office, writing Trump's home, falsely accusing him of crimes. I'm like, well, if conflict arises while they're in control, it is chaos and corruption with Trump and the populist right in control. It's going to be, I got to be completely honest, it's going to be much more to the book. Despite all the lies and everything they want to claim, Trump never overstepped his bounds in his first term. They have no evidence to suggest he's going to this time around. They're claiming already he did because he's asserting the executive branch as the Constitution. This is funny. Trump had to sign an executive order saying the Constitution says the executive authority is vested in the president.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And they're all aghast. Yeah. Elon Musk says, can you write five sentences about what you do? And they're losing their minds. OK, so that's why I look at Trump and his administration. And I'm like, well, if chaos does break out, there's going to be functional law enforcement under Trump administration and chaos under a Democrat administration. Yep. And, you know, we talk about the or you hear people complaining about the email from Musk saying, say what you did. If you if you dig into it a little bit, you'll hear that there are actually like exemptions, like Tulsi said, look, right. Yeah. You guys, you guys that work that are working in the intel area of the government, you can ignore this. I will get in touch with the president and get in touch with with doge and let them know that it's probably not a good idea for
Starting point is 00:18:50 you all to list five things that you did considering security clearance i still can't believe i still can't believe how mad they are about the five things it's ridiculous five things shocking to me let's uh let's jump to this next uh part of story. We have this from NBC News. FBI agents express shock and dismay over naming of right-wing podcaster to number two post. Fire them all. Right-wing podcast. Dan Bongino, who once called the FBI irredeemably corrupt, suggested on his podcast Monday that he was prepped to step out of his role as a MAGA warrior. Now, I just want to show you this tweet from Ken Delanian. I am so happy, Ken, that your emotions boiled your brain and you exposed yourself as a Fed. I mean that
Starting point is 00:19:31 figuratively, not literally. Calm down. Put your phone down. You're not calling your lawyers. He says, traditionally, the deputy FBI director has been a career FBI agent. That is particularly important. The director has no experience at the FBI. Donald Trump tonight announced he's appointing as deputy director Dan bongino a former secret service agent and prolific conspiracy theorist he's never spent a day working at the fbi but he has spent many hours spouting baseless false it's about the bureau such as that the fbi lied when they said they don't have a suspect in the pipe bombs as outside the rnc and the dnc on 115 21 current and former fbi officials are appalled and extremely concerned for the national
Starting point is 00:20:05 security of the country here's how i explain this this is important right this tweet really wow i was like wow he's got three million views on this tweet wow okay if um you're like i'm a podcaster right if donald trump announced that he was appointing a golf czar and it was going to be michael jordan i would go huh, does Jordan play golf? And someone like he does like a pro or anything. I'd be like, OK, and that's about it. I'd be like, I don't play golf. Is there a better golf player? Wouldn't know him. Tiger Woods, he's pretty good. So I'm on TV once. Not really much I can be upset about because I have no idea what's going on. So if Donald Trump and bear with me here, a point he said he's going to announce he was going to have an Olympic skateboarding czar.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'd be like, OK, well, hold on now. And then he announces it's a scooter kid like Serge. Then I'm going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I am outraged. What are you talking about? My point is, Ken Delaney and got very emotional over the FBI structure. So, Ken, you're a journalist at NBC. I mean, you have literally no overlap
Starting point is 00:21:08 with the structure of the FBI and literally no reason to be angry at the appointment of Dan Bongino. So what about this completely unrelated professional field and Donald Trump's choice has you so apoplectic that you would begin emotionally deriding Dan Bongino and then complaining in such a manner. I think Ken's mockingbird is showing, you know, and the last line there, current and former FBI officials are appalled. If you're
Starting point is 00:21:36 appalled, leave. Well, hold on. You're appalled. You should not be the FBI. Get out. When he wrote current and former FBI officials are appalled. Is he referring to himself? Yeah. I mean, it's coworkers. The fact that they leave out his time in New York, the NYPD and his time in Secret Service. Yeah. It just shows that they're not looking to be honest. They're looking to discredit. They're not looking to actually inform anyone. They're trying to scare people.
Starting point is 00:22:04 They're trying to look for means to discredit uh unfairly and so can we can i just point something out to dan bongino was a special agent with the secret service that means he is a man who volunteered for a job where he he would use his own body yeah to shield the lives of others. That is honor. Secret Service under Obama, remember? So they said, oh, right-wing podcast. He protected Obama for how many years? This is a guy who took a job volunteering to use his body as a shield for Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And they're like, he's a far right. No, I think he's a good dude who deeply cares about his country and is willing to sacrifice wealth and luxury for the betterment of his nation and what he believes in. And I'm deeply impressed. And I just I look at this post. You got all these stories. You know, we have NPR. What to know about Dan Bungino. But, you know, Ken Delaney's outrage here really reeks of personal involvement. And that's the point. I hope one of the first things we get from Cash and Dan is to whatever degree they can. Right. We want to respect the First Amendment. If these corporate news outlets had any deals or connections with the feds, it will be within the purview of the FBI to release the documents related to that, as it is from their own departments. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And I hope I hope should there be, they do. Who knows? I mean, I think there are, but we'll see. It'll be lovely. These headlines that call him a podcaster and totally skip over his past are like, they do it in the inverse with Soleimani when he died. Oh, right. And they were like, most revered soldier or leader or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Or the ISIS guy and they said, austere scholar. Yeah. It's amazing. But there's also the inverse in the United States. There will be someone who's a DEI coach and they'll make up these great credentials. He was an award-winning artist who discovered diversity. And then it's like he was a janitor. And he went to an online course one time.
Starting point is 00:24:08 They flip it around. So I'm wondering, you know, Cash and Dan, man, where do they go first? You know? And I don't know, man. Epstein files are on Pam Bondi's desk. Yeah, what's taking her so long? I think it's fair. I think it's fair.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah. You know, I know a lot of people are saying, like, get it done. Take your time. Take your time. Do it right. I'm very curious to see why most of these people are living, is what I'm assuming, too. That's a lot of the problem with the Epstein stuff. These are people that are living.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Cash gave an interview where he said, I think it was Cash, he said, the thing is, most of the answers, like I've seen the JFK files, most of the questions you've asked, you got the answers. The things that are classified are not related to the questions you're asking. So he's like, I can't really say much more than that. He's like, but they should be released. And so I think the important thing to understand is, just because something isn't released doesn't mean it's relevant to the issue we want. My point
Starting point is 00:25:10 ultimately is I trust Pam Bondi. I especially trust Cash and Dan. Yeah. And when Pam is like, I've got the Epstein list on my desk. Let's make sure they do this properly. What I don't want to see is if the story comes out and there's something in it that's lacking context, which misdirects people, it can actually protect the evil. If there's if there's something in there that's yeah, like it has to be done properly. And I'm not going to say I want to wait a year or anything. I'm saying like, you know, like a month or two, you know, like let's give him time to go through it and figure out, you know, what's going on, because we don't know. The question ultimately comes down to do you trust your FBI? And here's what I'm going to say. I fully expect, no, I demand that Cash and Dan will maintain the secrecy
Starting point is 00:26:00 of classified and top secret information as required by law and as required by President Trump. The issue is how I feel based on what I know and have researched over the past 20 years is that the previous administration's intelligence agencies and investigative wings, the NSA, the deep state, whatever you want to call it, have been untrustworthy and have classified things for their own protection and corrupt actions. What I want is a proper classification system to truly safeguard Americans' national security. I do not believe the previous administrations were doing that. I expect Dan and Cash to keep things classified should they actually be within the national security. But ultimately, it comes out of this. If Cash walked up to me and said tim these documents want are classified for national security reasons my response to cash would be like all right buddy i'm trusting you
Starting point is 00:26:49 on this one my response the previous administration is you have lied so many times you are lying to me now yeah there's i mean we there's no reason to believe the previous administration in fact there's every reason to disbelieve them exactly actually 100 and look the government does over classify things and they do it so that way they don't have to answer questions right if they can get away with classifying it just so that way they don't have to think about it they're going to and that's that's a a culture of secrecy in washington that really needs to end the idea that that there are, I mean, the FBI can, there should be things that are secret in order to protect witnesses
Starting point is 00:27:29 and to protect ongoing investigations. But otherwise, like once the investigation's done, once the people have been arrested, once the trials happened, there's no reason for any of that stuff to continue to be classified or to be secret. You disagree? Well, there's challenging things in like that's why i said context matters certain uh documents in the epstein case may relate to ancillary and ongoing investigations so let's say
Starting point is 00:27:58 they've got documents where they're like insert high profile media executive was on the island, Epstein doing this thing at a party where he said to insert other corrupt pharmaceutical agents on the phone, this or otherwise. And then they say, imagine cash or Dan is they're like, look, man, we want to give you these names. It could compromise us going after this other criminal in a side case. So there could be reasons. And that's ultimately the big challenge on this one. And that's usually why these things remain classified. The question ultimately comes down to, do you trust the current administration? And I got to tell you, you said it right, Joey, the previous administration, the Obama administration, the Bush administration, they've given us nothing but reasons to distrust them. Trump has continually
Starting point is 00:28:44 given us reasons to trust him as long as not related to something personal to Trump's ego. Because if it's like crowd size or the carrot gold of his toilet, then he's going to talk a big game. But usually, like when Trump came out. Look, 10-carat difference is a lot. Or the square footage. Things that don't really matter. But when it comes to the country. My toilet is 15 square feet huge.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It's actually the second biggest and the third most beautiful. But you'll never hear him admit that. Trump came out in his first term. He gets asked a question. And he outright just says, we're going to sell a lot of weapons to Saudi Arabia. It's great. Going to be great for our economy. And all of these anti-war leftists, their jaws at the floor and they were like, he just said it. He just came out and admitted what American Middle Eastern foreign policy is.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, he just admitted it. And I'm like, yes. And The Intercept called him the most dishonest, honest president we've ever had, because Trump will bloviate and exaggerate things that don't really matter. So long as it's like how tall he is and what is his weight and, you know, like how many strokes below par. Like it's like we don't really care, but Trump talks a big game. But when it comes to matters that the people actually want to know about Trump, he'll strap tell you like, yeah, we sell weapons out of Arabia. It's hundreds of millions of dollars that goes to our economy. And you're like, oh, all right. So long story short, I want to see this stuff declassified.
Starting point is 00:30:15 But I do trust cash, Dan and Pam Bondi and the Trump administration to do the best of their best of their ability. I wonder cash being put in charge of atf made me think of ruby ridge and like are they going to say like we're sorry we apologize for this total mess up i have a lot of thoughts about stuff like ruby ridge particularly when it comes to like we were discussing earlier a lot of the enforcement uh or if i understand correctly the majority of the enforcement arm of the atf has been moved to the border. Right. Right. And so that is taking them off of the thing of doing things like harassing people for a barrel that's two or three inches too short. And that was the whole pretense of Ruby Ridge. If it wasn't for the NFA, that family wouldn't have been killed.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah. And so these kind of laws do matter, right? The idea that, oh, the barrel on your rifle is too short, or you have a silencer that the serial number is scuffed on. And that's the kind of stuff that the ATF would absolutely have picked people up and ruined their lives for. The ATF does not exist in order to destroy the lives of otherwise law-abiding Americans. These are registration issues. These are not about people that are intending to be criminals. If you have a rifle that has a barrel that's too short, or a shotgun that has a barrel that's too short, that is not some kind of evidence that you are intending to do a crime.
Starting point is 00:31:41 But there was that one video that went viral where the ATF guy got arrested by local cops. And good. He was trying to, he was, he was like, he never wore anything. He went to someone's house to ask him and he wouldn't leave. And the cops were like, bro. And then he resisted arrest. But I should, you know, I was trying to think about what this feels like with Kash Patel. And, you know, it feels like all, all throughout the year, you were telling your parents, like, you really just wanted a PS5 for Christmas. And then finally, a few months out, they're like, we're going to get you a PS5. And you're freaking out. And then when you open it up, not only did they get you the PS5, they got you the deluxe bundle with a bunch of pre-downloaded high-end games.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And you get more than you bargained for. Yeah, the PS6, actually. It's actually much better. Dan Bongino, it's actually Dan Bongino handing you the PlayStation. And so there we go. Let's jump to this next story from the Post Millennial. Okay, I'm going to pause real quick as we get started and just say we'll try to keep this one family friendly as much as we can. But considering the nature of it, just, you know, giving you guys a heads up. NSA vows to take action against workers who are talking kink, sex changes, polyamory fetishes in government chat room.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Two channels from the NSA's interlink messaging program feature discussions related to polyamory and all those other things. I'm not going to get into the details, but let me just say they're shockingly graphic, disturbing. They depict actions which one might question if somebody who tried to do this would be 5150. Wow. I mean, these chats are nuts. Like, these are government employees. I can't – we'll save – maybe we'll take a few minutes in the Uncensored Call-In Show to get a little heavy on what they were talking about. But they were talking about things that could result in serious harm to your body and how they enjoyed them and i'm just
Starting point is 00:33:27 like what is going on at the nsa and i gotta i gotta tell you particularly worried because the nsa's got everything out you yeah um this is honestly the least shocking thing i feel like this is just right up their alley these are voyeurs who listen to all of us this is this is what they do they're weird furries you know you know You know, there are some regular furries. They watch the show. They super chat sometimes. That's right. I was here one time.
Starting point is 00:33:49 They called in. Yeah. You know, and I will actually say this. You know, if you're at home and you're dressed like Bugs Bunny, I really don't care. If you're in a private chat room with your friends talking about
Starting point is 00:33:58 wanting to be Bugs Bunny, again, I really don't care. If on our tax dollars, you are dressed like Bugs Bunny, having Bugs Bunny conventions in government chat rooms, now we've got a problem. That is not something we should be paying for.
Starting point is 00:34:09 This is why they're offended at what five things did you get done this week? Because they're talking about this instead of doing work. This is the problem. I took this one object and I put it in my... I washed the weird stain off of my furry suit. Oh, Lord, help us all, please. Fired. This is like the congressional sex tape.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You know, this is right in line with the... Remember that? How could I forget? Can I just pause? I don't know if the statute of limitations is on that, but I sure hope Dan and Cash go after those guys. Absolutely. Walk them up.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Remember, they said they didn't do anything wrong. We don't even know who the... Well, we know who the front one was. We don't know who the other one was, the one who was holding the camera. Let me just pause real quick just for the context. For those that don't know, a video leaked in the Senate building of two men, let's just call it – Loving each other. Offending God.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah. That's better. That's much better. That's what it was. Yes. Offending God. Yeah. And it's not a gay thing.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And the founders. And the founders. I'm talking about premarital relations. That's right. Engaged in activities that would justify God destroying the whole city. I called it making the baby Jesus cry last time. They were doing what the Senate does to America
Starting point is 00:35:19 just on the Senate floor. I know what I said. Just move on from this and stop making puns. No one ever got held accountable there's a guy got fired yeah and i want criminal accountability people who are breaking the law yeah so okay back to the nsa weird exposed chats that are really disturbing and you wish you didn't read if you do remember remember when things like this is this is uh sorry sorry. This is why Elon Musk's emails are so important and why it's so important that Doge go in and figure out what these people are doing, because I don't think people realize it's not just about giving money to charities that make no sense
Starting point is 00:35:57 when when someone if you go out in the middle of the street in Times Square and say, should we be funding gender studies in Pakistan? Most people are going to say no. OK, now what if you said, should we be funding the employment of people who use work time to talk about their weird kinks and putting things in their you know what? And they're going to be like, no. Why are we paying for that? Buy them all. I said it's the least surprising thing because the government is so depraved. Last night on my show, we talked about because the government is so depraved last night on my show we talked about how the government funded uh kids in foster care to be experimented on and feeding them radioactive oatmeal just to see what went down and we've also secretly given kids aids like medicine
Starting point is 00:36:39 that they didn't know they were taking like we just we experiment on children with our tax dollars all the time this is just like an offshoot of how depraved we are i mean there are dark and sinister forces operating behind the scenes that um people people don't want to believe is true yeah it's you know it is remarkable how there's that joke about what's the difference between the news and a conspiracy theory six months yeah right but the reality is i mean you look at the jfk stuff it was fringe lunacy to to say anything other than you know uh what happened happened now we're at the point where former congressman ron paul sitting on podcast like it was cia and then we're hanging out with rfk juniors
Starting point is 00:37:18 like i killed my family and it's like now it's just publicly mainstream believed completely yeah 100 that's why i'm happy we have i do i do think cash's position was that it wasn't interesting he's like i've seen all the documents he's like you'll see interesting yeah this is why i'm happy we have a prolific conspiracy theorist in the fbi now uh because he's gonna i hope expose a lot of this stuff and but you know the funny thing about it is they call him a conspiracy theorist and i'm just like, uh-huh. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It doesn't mean he's wrong. It doesn't mean he's wrong. If you're not being called a conspiracy theorist or far right or some of these names, then you're not doing good anymore. Have you seen that comedy bit from that? I don't know the guy's name. It's a viral bit. And he's like, you guys really don't believe in conspiracy theories? Like, I can understand.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Ron Funches. Is that what it was? He's like, I can understand not believing all of them, but not even one. Like, you think the government's just betting a thousand? And he's like, I'm going to lighten the language for the Family Friendly Show. But he goes, look, the government is tasked
Starting point is 00:38:14 with looking over all of its people. I've got one son. I'm tasked with looking over him, and I lied him all the time. We should listen to that members only. I remember that. That's such a great bit but he's right yeah totally right when they're like dan bongino's a conspiracy theorist and i'm
Starting point is 00:38:30 like good yeah because uh hold on let's just pause for a minute if you're in the fbi and someone comes to you and says deputy director i have these photos of these two men they met in a parking garage carrying bags and when they left they're carrying different bags now i think because if you follow this guy he works for this pharmaceutical company and this guy he doesn't seem to have a job now i think what's happening is imagine if the deputy director deputy director wasn't a conspiracy theorist and he goes whoa you think two guys who went to a parking garage and traded bags in his crime there you're conspiracy theorist nothing happened right and imagine a deputy director like dan he's gonna be like interesting it looks like
Starting point is 00:39:11 a crime may have been committed but let's move if we have probable cause not just assume the bag so you want someone in law enforcement to actually be able to connect dots and seek out probable cause should there be or find the probable cause should there be, or find the probable cause, should there be any, or preponderance of evidence, should there be any. A synonym for conspiracy theorist is historian.
Starting point is 00:39:31 You just know your history. You know, like read the book Chaos. Read the book Poisoner in Chief. That is really funny to point out that literally all of history is conspiracies. Yes. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yes. Like the founding fathers were engaged in a conspiracy. Imagine it's 17, like 1769 or whatever, and you're like in the Revolutionary War. And then you're running around going like, a group of Americans are trying to overthrow the crown. They're getting together and have these meetings where they're trying to form their own governments. They're like, calm down, buddy. You're nuts.
Starting point is 00:39:59 It's like, no, trust me. I'm telling you. You go to Britain and you're like, I'm telling you. They're going to create their own country and they're going to call it America. But that's the name of the continent they're gonna be like yeah yeah buddy no one's all english men you got you can't we'll never not be englishmen just because we're here doesn't mean we're not englishmen america is founded on conspiracies well but but also like think about the nature of what a conspiracy theory is is and what the
Starting point is 00:40:21 phrase is intending to do right they're trying to tell you, when they call you a conspiracy theorist, they're trying to say your ideas are improbable or absurd. That's not just about whether two people got together in secret to make a criminal plan. Throughout history, we are rife with moments where people didn't believe
Starting point is 00:40:40 a thing was going to happen. And then it did. So today, when they're like, you're a conspiracy theorist, they're like, well, let's go back in time and talk about who got what right. That's all that matters. It's a word to delegitimize what people are looking at after JFK is when it really started to pop off. It was the precursor
Starting point is 00:40:58 to far right. Now they say he's a far right conspiracy theorist. Far right, because conspiracy theorist is right, blah, blah, blah, far right. Because conspiracy theorist is not it just doesn't have the same oomph anymore. No, particularly again after Kodak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 What would happen if like Dan Bongino, Cash, Trump, they're like, we're going to go in and figure out the NSA is doing. And then some rogue employees just like dump a bunch of public files on everybody like literally everybody just like open it there you go i imagine there's too much data to actually release it seems that seems possible i think well the challenge with it is all the data the nsa has it's too much for anyone to actually parse through true like where would it be hosted even right russia right but if there are rogue actors who are thinking like they've uncovered our weird kink chats and they're about to expose us let's release it all you know that's interesting that'd be fun it sounds like you know i gotta be honest we'd be i i i don't know how to how to
Starting point is 00:42:02 to phrase this i don't think we'd be surprised by anything liberals do right but i also don't think we'd be surprised by anything liberals do. But I also don't think we'd be surprised by some of the things we learn about conservatives either. Oh, yeah. There's degenerates across the aisle. That conservative guy was gay. It's like, well, you know. Makes sense. That person was a furry this whole time?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Actually, the crazy thing is going to be when you figure out whose kid is whose. You're like, so Justin Trudeau was. Yeah, I knew it. I'm a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, that's a very interesting one. Yo, it is pretty wild when you put Trudeau's face next to Castro and it's like, bro. Okay, let me just – An image.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yes. Let me just say this. And I'm allowed to do this now because I'm a first-time dad for a couple of days, and I'm having experiences all you other dads have already had. But my baby is born, and I'm like, look at that. She looks kind of like me. She's got, like, little things on her ears it looks like like i'm like how about that you look at justin trudeau's face and i'm like look at he's got the same nose come on it's straight up that's his dad it has to be it has to be really it's too uncanny it's
Starting point is 00:42:58 not just that but like you if you if you read about like how much his mom loved Castro and how she was in Cuba at just the right time and she was, you know. Well, I mean, there's arguments that the timeline doesn't actually line up properly or whatever. But I just got to tell you, if you look at Trudeau's dad, like his actual publicly recognized dad, he didn't look anything like him. Right. And then you look at young Castro and it's like there's a kind of a resemblance there. But who knows? I don't know. All right. Let's And then you look at young Castro and it's like there's a kind of a resemblance there. But who knows? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:26 All right. Let's jump to this story. This one's spicy. So, hey, from the Post Millennial, Dan Crenshaw says he would kill Tucker Carlson if they ever met. Tucker invites him for a sit down interview. I kid you not. This story is blowing up. What the?
Starting point is 00:43:42 I can't. What is this it's a bad idea for congressmen that are former navy seals to say things like what happened to dan crenshaw man i'm gonna play the video but just let me just it's 10 seconds long i remember when he was first running his first time where everybody was stoked on this guy they're like he's pretty good remember the ads the really cool ads he was doing everything oh those ads really freaked me out but you you'll come back to that. Have you ever met Tucker? I mean, to be fair, he said, I'm not joking, but we I don't think he was literally expressing the intent to kill Tucker Carlson, but it's a very weird thing to say. And regardless, as a member of Congress and as you mentioned, what former Navy SEAL.
Starting point is 00:44:32 That's what it was talking about, a man who routinely receives death threats to say that you will do that and that you're not joking. Well, it doesn't matter what I think or my interpretation is. It matters that he said it and said he wasn't joking. So his intent is expressed. Yeah yeah it's a bad idea it's a very bad idea for congress people to say that it's very very bad idea for people that have been in you know have his training to say that it's all thumbs down dan all thumbs down bad move p davidson should have never apologized my opinion uh to this guy. Well, and then remember, he goes, MTG
Starting point is 00:45:08 asked him, so did you really just threaten to kill Tucker? And he goes, LOL, no. It's on camera. And then he got the note! It's all on camera. Of course he got the note. It's on camera. I honestly don't know if he's stable in the head. I don't know that he's fit to serve any longer. I genuinely believe that. I don't know that he's stable enough to serve in the Congress anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Something's up. I don't think that I'm in a position to actually make that kind of call. But here's the post. I mean, look. So Steve at Edmonton, as I pronounce it from GB News, says, yeah, this is amazing. OK, he says after our interview, I asked Dan Crenshaw if he had ever met to Carlson. He said that he'd kill him. he laughed it off uh watch my interview below marjorie taylor green says dan crenshaw did you threaten to kill my friend tucker and dan crenshaw says lol no and there's a proposed community note with video evidence of him saying it this is wild it's oh man i i don't know what happened to this guy um he just
Starting point is 00:46:05 it's a fall from grace or maybe he's always been this way because he was appealing to a lot of people on the right in the very beginning those commercials you were talking about that's when I was starting to be like oh this guy he was trying to be like a Marvel character flying out of the sky it was when I think Arsenal was doing all those cool ads
Starting point is 00:46:21 it was a lot it was a lot of CGI stuff but I don't know he seemed at least to love what he did he seemed to love the country was doing all those cool ads back then. It was a lot. It was a lot of CGI stuff. But I don't know. He seemed at least to love what he did. He seemed to love the country. He seemed to be patriotic. He seemed to be with his heart in the right place.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Now the only time I ever hear the guy is when he's blasting other people. But he's hated by everybody. Nobody likes him. At least Kinzinger was like, I guess I'll be a Democrat. It's like, okay, I get it. You're going to pander to... Dan Crenshaw was like,
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm going to be hated by everyone. I think he just makes enough money in fundraising that nobody can seem to primary him because I don't understand how he continues to win primarily. He lied about how much money he made in stocks, right? I forget what the number is. He's another good inside trader from what I understand. He's nowhere near as good as Pelosi. Nobody's as good as Pelosi. But I heard that he lives in a district with a lot of military manufacturing.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And so he'll never lose because these people don't want to lose the pro-military industrial complex vote. Like, look, if you work at a manufacturing plant that is going towards weapons of some sort, you want wars to continue. Yes. I mean, if this were a movie, it'd be too on the nose. The guy with the eye patch, like, making money off the military industrial complex. Come on. I mean, I got to be honest. Like, actually, there's a lot of movies that do it.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It's not too on the nose. I just watched that one movie. I can't remember what it is, what it was, where, like, there's, like, some Army veterans are broke, so they're going to go rob a bank or something. Okay. And they've got all those special, like, they know how to combat, so they're able to do it more effectively or whatever the idea that's like a man comes back from two tours and he's been injured and maimed and the his the you know the um veteran veterans affairs are not paying the va's not paying his his health care whatever and he's got a family to take care of so he goes rogue it's actually the normal you know thing like it's like but this guy came back and went to like yale
Starting point is 00:48:01 right now did he is he yale educated y? Yale or Harvard or one of those Ivy League. He's an Ivy Leaguer, you know? Yeah, I mean. He got into the skulls. Is that what it's called? Skull and bones. That's why he's got the eye patch actually. Well, I mean, anybody can join.
Starting point is 00:48:16 That's true. If you're a lizard like the Bushes. I mean, you guys. Have you ever seen those? I'm sorry, but have you ever seen those videos on Instagram? There are tons of them. And they've been around for a while. It's not just Instagram, but it's like they catch people turning into lizards.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Oh, yeah. And it's just video compression artifacting. It's like really dumb. Yeah. Wow. Dude, Billy Corgan on Rogan years ago said he saw someone turn into a lizard. He didn't, but okay. No, I think he did.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I need to know who that was. I'm guessing Courtney Love. Turn into a lizard he didn't but okay i i for no i think he did and i need to know who that was i'm guessing courtney love turn it i'm guessing it's courtney love i don't know though those stories those stories in short context are like you know i once saw a politician turn into a lizard and you're like whoa and then you're like without that context because then later on you find that guy and you're like tell me the full story it's like okay well hang out my friend's doing acid and then and you're like ah stop stop i'm gonna go no i like, okay, well, I was hanging out with my friends doing acid. And you're like, ah, stop, stop. I'm going to go. No, I walked by Adam Schiff in real life and I saw he's got like two eyelids.
Starting point is 00:49:11 He's super slimy. Something is genuinely wrong with him, too. Yes. You can look at him and know something is very off with Adam Schiff. He's worried. He should be worried. If you thought he was worried when Cash Patel was coming in, now Dan Bongino. What happened at the Standard Hotel?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Adam Schiff? What happened? I'm willing to bet that maybe the first move made by Kash and Dan is going to be like, let's go see what Adam Schiff has been up to. Yeah. How many kids are in that basement? Swallow? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Oh, wow. Yes. That's crazy. And now he became a senator? He's a senator. California will elect anything. It's unbelievable to me who gets elected in that. It's so disheartening.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Like, he's such a I mean, he was censured as a as a congressperson. And then he gets a promotion. What is wrong with the pardon? The pardon? Like, yeah, that even cover is what I want to know. This is interesting question for Bongino and Cash. What is that part in cover yeah what is it just related to his work on the j6 stuff or does that cover a lot of other stuff i mean look and if so what of california are they have the right to you know
Starting point is 00:50:15 elect whoever they want to put into position you know in the position of of senator but i mean you you know that he's a dishonest person you know because he was censured for dishonesty yeah he you know that he was the guy that was most vocal about a bs line of uh i mean it was just all bs about about trump and russia he was the guy that was constantly saying that and then the people of california voted to put him into the upper chamber, supposedly because the thing is, like in the House, because they're every every two years and because there's 435 of them, you're going to get people that are weirdos. Sometimes they stick around. Sometimes they don't. That's why Maxine Waters is still there, right? But, like, when it comes to the Senate, they're supposed to be more deliberate. They have longer, you know, appointments or terms. And to think that the people of California said, yes, this is the guy that we want to represent us.
Starting point is 00:51:22 That is, you're literally just doing a total disservice to the whole state and to the country. I believe there's a lot of red voters in that state. It's just those cities really play. It's actually the most Republicans in any state because of the size of the population. And it's like New York. My home state is a lot of red voters.
Starting point is 00:51:39 It's just the city ruins it for everybody. Well, but they have the jungle primaries. So there's no hope. You have so many Democrats. Usually it's the top two finishers are Democrats. This time they had Steve – I think it was not Steve Harvey, Steve Garvey. Steve Harvey would have been interesting though. Steve Harvey would have been much better than Schiff.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I'm interested in that. Yeah. Steve Harvey couldn't do a worse job than Schiff. That's at least he's – never mind. I don't know who he was running against. Steve Garvey, the baseball player. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I mean, I don't know. Who was a Republican. Who was a – who knows?'s california when they run as republicans it's like i'm a republican so but yeah i hate donald trump exactly like i mean if like you don't know what kind of guy here at least i don't know what kind of guy he was i don't know i would love to see what happened in california if they would actually get a republican who ran not as a like you know lauren bobert or marjorie taylor but somebody who ran, not as a like, you know, Lauren Boebert or Marjorie Taylor, but somebody who ran as an actual staunch Republican with conservative values. They got Larry Elder.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah. Like instead of these moderate squish people. Maybe people would be shocked because I don't even think that the liberal voters like these people who are like, yeah, I'm going to be a Democrat, but not really. Maybe they would respect it more if they actually said, yeah, I'm going to be a conservative a conservative that's who i am that's what i'm going to do i would that be better maybe who knows i would like to see someone that i i don't know i i don't know what you know i don't know what california wants i know orange county's kind of where all the republicans have kind of like gathered their last stand or whatever it's like the alamo but um i talked to a lot of people out there post the la fires and i was initially thinking that might change the way they vote but they're like no they've already forgot they're
Starting point is 00:53:09 just moving on and they haven't changed their the way they think about politics despite everything burning to the ground yeah yeah it's uh it's unfortunate um well look at karen bass she she manages to remain mayor i mean how maxine waters you said, Phil, how do these people remain in public life at all? They'd be laughed out of. Because there are people who think Donald Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people. Yeah. Okay, sure. Did you guys see the Elon Musk video that went viral the other day?
Starting point is 00:53:39 Oh, that was sad. Yeah, the one where it said he left his kid in the heat. And it's got 20 million views on a bunch of subreddits. And then there's clearly a full video where Elon checks three times to make sure his son is with him if anyone who watched that initial video saw that it was cropped in a way every time remember the abc news trump feeding the fish right oh yeah shinzo abe dumps the food and then trump looks at him and goes okay and dumps the food right they zoom in and crop it so it looks like trump did something to be it's they're liars it and crop it. So it looks like Trump did something. They're liars.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It's yeah, it's well, it's in these videos are in conjunction with a constant stream of Trump's a bad guy. So you get people that are emotionally inclined to dislike Trump, which there's a certain amount of certain amount of our political perspectives comes just from who we are. Right. Like you're born to you're born and it's not that you're guaranteed, but you're born to have the inclination to be left-leaning. You're born to have the inclination to be right-leaning. There are certain things about different personalities that just are inside of you, right?
Starting point is 00:54:36 But that's also malleable depending on your experiences, depending on what you learn and stuff like that. But when you get people that are inclined to be on the left and then you feed them a straight up nonstop diet of, hey, this guy's Hitler and they're probably on SSRIs or they're
Starting point is 00:54:51 probably on some kind of mood altering drugs or they're maybe they're neurotic or something like that. And you keep showing them the same. You keep you spend all day long telling him how this is terrible. This guy's a Nazi. This is he's going to do this. He's going to do that and and then you show them a video that confirms their priors they're going to share it with their friends they're going to say look see i told you so i just had a guy on that i was that was i was that came to my feed and after a few weeks back and forth he blocks me of course but he like his whole thing is like oh elon musk is a nazi and i'm like elon musk what do you what is it that you about elon musk that makes nazi and i'm like elon musk what do you what is it that you about elon musk that makes you think he's a nazi like what has he done and and he's like well
Starting point is 00:55:30 you know he wants to murder people i'm like you actually believe that elon musk wants to murder people elon musk was the one with ben shapiro all the all the anti-semites hate musk because they say he's too pro-jewish. Now he is a Jewish kid. I mean, what are you talking about? But this illustrates my point. Like, it's not, they don't have an opinion that reflects reality. They're looking for things that confirm their priors. They're looking for things that confirm what they want to believe.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And so that's why when Musk did the hand you know the eye my heart goes out to you they're like watch out watch it everybody what did he yell double cigars like you know that's what he like he you know it's like oh look you know look he did the thing right he did the thing and look that means he did the thing that means that he wants to round up all the juices all confirmation bias right and i i as you, I think there's legitimate reasons to have criticisms for him. But none of these things are that, right? Like the cropped videos, the out-of-context stuff, none of that's legitimate. It just feeds the brain dead left.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah, it does. It's really annoying. And it's not just really annoying. It's really bad for people that are inclined to believe these things and people that are again on the margins people that are that are possibly a little on the uh on the you know compromised mentally compromised side because the and this is something that the left does they want people that are borderline or mentally mentally compromised or or that that are are having struggles they want them to be upset because upset people will go out and do things like Luigi Maggiano did.
Starting point is 00:57:08 They'll go out and they'll do things like the guy that climbed up on the roof in Pennsylvania did. They'll do those kind of things. If we are deeply concerned about what upset people might do, we have this story from the Postmillennial. My show had value. Joy Reid cries after MSsnbc canceled her show wrong oh joy reed value she cries um it's very sad um but also that my show had value no and that i'm sorry i'm not um that what i was doing had value. It clearly didn't, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's why nobody watched it and they fired you. And in the end, I'm sorry, I try not to cry on TV. No, you're not on TV. Not anymore. She's on Zoom. And then it mattered. I see Karen is there and she's been texting me as well. And so what I will just say is that in the end, thank you.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Can I just – she was getting, like, what, 50K viewers? That would be surprising, honestly. I don't know what she was getting. In the key demo, her show, I think 68,000 last weekend or something like that was the reported numbers. Wow. like that was the report numbers well i just want to let you guys know that i can post a video of me giggling at a chicken yeah and get more views than that like this is something joy read needs to consider okay her opinions nobody wants to hear them no she is a horrible human being i don't you know i don't usually take joy in watching people cry on camera watching people suffer
Starting point is 00:58:43 i really love her tears. It brings me great pleasure to see her suffer. She's so smug. She's a disgusting, race-baiting, despicable human being. She's racist. She's smug. She hates everyone in this room. If she could kill us all, she would. I think The View might hire her.
Starting point is 00:58:59 The View don't even want her. I think she'd be great. Whoopi Goldberg don't want to compete with her to be the dumbest heifer in the world. I mean, look at Don Lemon. How's Don Lemon doing? He's doing TikToks now. He's doing TikToks.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Or he's in the Senate doing videos. I don't know. Anyway. Don Lemon? No. Yeah, let's see how Don... Don Lemon's got half a million. I think the videos we were talking about earlier.
Starting point is 00:59:19 The videos we were talking about earlier. I don't want to hear Don Lemon. Don Lemon's got half a million subs for some reason. YouTube's still trying to save this guy. Let's take a look at his views. Okay, you know, look. He's at 30,000. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:31 11,000. No, I mean, let's, you know, here you go. I work in the industry, guys. I can give you some insights. Let's see. So 30,000 views. He's going to be doing like, he probably made like 500 bucks. It's not bad. I mean, how many of you would like to make a video where you talk to a guy on the internet and get paid 500 bucks for it? You know what I mean? So Don Lemon, he's probably making, at this level, he might be doing like 400k a year. You know what I mean? I'm sure he has to have to have something somewhere right what do you
Starting point is 01:00:06 mean like there has to be another platform he's a song this one's got a lot he's the one who blew it with elon right didn't elon offer him something and he was like i want to do the first uh space podcast i want to do it from mars where they should have left his sorry behind i mean it can enjoy with him there's it makes no sense to be completely honest, in why Don Lemon is getting any viewership at all. Because he's not a merit-based personality. Like, there are a lot of people who built from the ground up their platform. Almost all of the podcasts you see, almost all of them, not all of them, are someone started a show and slowly built up to it. So Don Lemon, to me, doesn't make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:00:43 But look, he's having a lemon party. Is that what it says? Oh, man. A lemon party. Listen, if you're an internet... Don't even. So he's having a lemon watch party with Joy Reid. Oh, it streams 20...
Starting point is 01:00:58 He did this already. Well, I'm not surprised. Maybe she can start a YouTube channel, and YouTube will prop her channel up for some reason, and people will watch it. Nice. Now, she's a horrible person. Well, Don Lemon not surprised. Maybe she can start a YouTube channel and YouTube will prop her channel up for some reason and people will watch it. Nice. She's a horrible person. Well, Don Lemon is too.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah. I've never heard Don Lemon say things that were as explicitly racist as her. She's far worse. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember the white? I don't care about white women's tears. And now you're the one crying. Cry a river, you horrible demon.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah. Well, the bigger question is for the likes of Caitlin Collins and Chris Cuomo and Anderson Cooper, these people don't have any high-level talent. No. So let me break it down for you guys.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So when we're launching TimCast IRL, many may ask, who does the production? Well, Surge is controlling the cameras and volume and things like that in real time. So when the camera's switching, there's a human being pressing buttons. As for story selection, it's actually quite simple. My morning show and all of the news and everything I'm reading throughout the day is basically pre-production for Timcast IRL. I come in, I sit down, I pull up the stories that I think are most pressing or interesting that are going viral that I see on X or on various news websites. There's no other producers. There's no
Starting point is 01:02:15 story writers. People who work here will sometimes see stories and post them in our company chat room, things like that. For the most part, my morning show is 90% me. And then I've got people who will help post things on everything on YouTube. I will just I upload it all and get it going. And then we have people who will post them on other platforms. And then story wise, 99% of the time, I'm just pulling stories myself. This is true for most independent podcasters. Like Joe Rogan, how does he get guests? Honestly, Joe hears about them and then reaches out or someone connects them. You know, people always think there's a magic book. I want to go on Joe's show. Do you know Joe? Like, he just hang out with his friends, man. Joy Reid and most of his other TV personalities have no
Starting point is 01:03:02 capability to do anything other than sit in front of a camera and read a teleprompter. So how could they possibly move to this space successfully? Don Lemon, riding the coattails of the CNN brand, was able to muster up half a million subscribers. But think about this. Here's a guy getting paid millions of dollars. That's the best he can do? He's averaging, what, 20,000 views? And he was getting this massive salary. When you take these people out of their fake corporate element,
Starting point is 01:03:31 they do not make it anywhere meaningful. And I wouldn't be surprised if Don Lemon just simply ceases to exist in the long run. Though, to be fair, maybe he figures it out. Maybe he improves. Joy Reid ain't going to be able to set up a YouTube channel. The amount of money it would cost her to hire people to do the production work that needs to be done for someone with no talent yeah not gonna happen no no she she's not gonna make it she will not be around she'll write a book a few people will buy the book i don't know and then i don't agree you don't you don't think she'll i mean she has to read so she know how to read but yeah well she probably i i don't know that if she wrote a, anybody would want to pick it up or care about it.
Starting point is 01:04:05 This lady was getting 60,000 viewers in the key demo. So I think she did have a substantial couple hundred thousand, maybe it was like 500, 600,000 of people, 75 plus. No disrespect to 75 plus, but that's not key demo. So what was the value of her show? Riling up older folks? Pretty much is that what I would assume. It was just older black church ladies and stuff. No, seriously.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Her, Simone Sanders. I mean, these are not people that are respected. They don't go to—she doesn't speak anywhere. Nobody goes to listen to her speak. She's joyless. She's heartless. She's just nothing. She's worthless.
Starting point is 01:04:41 So, you know, I wish her well. I hope she has enough money to last a little while. You just called her a demon. I wish you well So, you know, I wish her well. I hope she has enough money to last a little. You just called her a demon. I wish you well, though. No, I wish you well. I don't want to see somebody, like, drown out and become a cokehead. But in reality, I'll, you know, she'll probably look like Justin Bieber looks in a couple of weeks. Honest to God.
Starting point is 01:04:57 But that's all right. With her Trump wig. I hope she can still afford one. Ariana Grande. Ariana Grande. God, I hope she's okay. That girl needs to get some help. She needs to get off the Ozempic.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Oh, I don't think that's just Ozempic. I think that's seriously disorders right there. It's terrible. But we'll see what happens. Man, the media industry is in for a shakeup, man. Like, just the evolution that's happening before us, we are seeing with the podcast presidency, and it's going to change.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And I've been wondering about this. Most of the big shows are homegrown individuals, but it's starting to change. And we're starting to see podcast plants. This is a story. People who look like they had a meritocratic growth, but it's not. It's industry. It's corporate. It's all built up.
Starting point is 01:05:42 This will be the case. I said this last year. The beast will not just go, guess I lost. These companies have hundreds of millions and billions of dollars and they're going to say, oh, what happened? Viewership trends have changed. Everyone's doing podcasts. How do we make identical podcasts? Don't be surprised if within like a year there is a show identical in almost every way to timcast irl at 8 p.m with like liberals sitting around and it looks like it's just some dudes hanging out but it's going to be a dnc backroom deal sponsored show or something like that well they keep saying the dnc
Starting point is 01:06:17 keeps saying we need an answer for rogan we need an answer for all these podcasts because they don't have anything or get who are they going to put? Harry Sisson and Chris? I mean, who's going to do their round table? It would end up being beyond the table. David Pakman, Kyle Kalinske, and Tyler Cohen. Who? Nightmare. No, no, no, hold on, hold on. I got to call you out for that.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Brian Tyler Cohen, I know. Who's the other one? David Pakman's got nearly 3 million subs and gets hundreds of millions of views on his videos. I've never heard of him. And that is a problem. So all these conservatives sitting here gloating and cheering,
Starting point is 01:07:05 being like, ha ha, look at Joy Reid, ignoring the fact that these other liberals are getting propped up, built up and are building up massive channels while simultaneously calling on the DNC to fund them, saying we will be your answer to point this out. David Pakman, I hope I hope your fans and followers clip this and share it with you. I hope you see it. Make a video about it. David Pakman published a video calling Trump's all. It said it was Trump like this with his hands on his head and said all time worst approval or all time lowest approval at a time where Trump is experiencing his highest aggregate approval of his career. Right. How could this man, David Pakman, I don't understand how you can title and make a video with a headline and a thumbnail claiming Trump's approval rating is the lowest it's ever been when it's the inverse. Because these people are professional liars. It's what they do. And they want money from the machine to continue lying to people. That's what they are. And I got to tell you, man, he gets a lot of views on these videos. If we just decided, you know what,
Starting point is 01:07:46 how about we make a video where we show, we claim that, you know, let's make the story 10 times worse. Joy Reid cries on TV after being physically thrown out of MSNBC's studio with all of her fans booing her and screaming at her. We'd get a million views on that video. None of it's true, though.
Starting point is 01:08:02 So we don't do that. David Pakman, however, and not just him just him but other liberals actually make thumbnails and titles that are factually 100 false to get a ton of clicks and it works and youtube props them up but hey that's free speech they're all a variety of a jesse smollett like they all it's all a hoax it's all a lie he sounds like he's already on the dnc payroll they're propagandists and that's what they do what do you what do you think that the behavior of people like you know whether it be pacman or or no lie with nightclub i love brian taylor cohen's show is called no lie he's literally the lioness dude on on all of x he spreads more bs than anybody i've ever seen. But so the Democrats are really in a really bad spot.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I mean, even James Carville, who's like the guy from the 90s that really knew how to get people elected, he straight up said Democrats should play possum. Democrats should sit back and let the Republicans mess up. And the reason he said that isn't because the Republicans republicans are likely to to mess up significantly it's because the democrats are having a massive civil war and they can't figure out if they want to try to be the party of the working class or if they want to be the progressives that are concerned with centering the marginalized people because they're going to lose the the the latino vote because the the people that are immigrants that have that have come to the country they don't want to have illegal immigrants they want legal immigrants and those
Starting point is 01:09:31 people are generally conservative like they're they're they're still predominantly religious people they're they're and if you look in texas you see the way that latinos like second generation latinos vote they all they're not all but there's a significant portion of them, probably a majority, that vote conservative. There were a couple districts right on the border that went red from the – Half the border went red. Let me show you some of this. What do the Democrats do? Let me – let's revel in what is the David Pakman show.
Starting point is 01:10:03 David, I have no problem. I'll say this. So he made a video where he claimed that I and Milo Yiannopoulos claimed that he was funded by USAID or something. I never said that. I made the point that there are nonprofits we know that buy ad spots on prominent liberal podcasts. With some of these nonprofits losing funding, I wonder if we're going to see any announcement from podcasts that the revenue is drying up or something like this. Never accused anyone directly of doing it. Milo responded, David Pakman, as if to imply that Pakman was willfully or unknowingly taking money through circuitous methods from USAID. I never said that.
Starting point is 01:10:34 But that's the game he plays. Lawyers warning me. Trump is coming after you. 765,000 views. The picture is Trump pointing at him with his face palm. Then you've got Trump's cognitive health, 476,000,. The picture is Trump pointing at him with his face palm. Then you've got Trump's cognitive health, 476,000 taking total control. The total control one is the only one that I actually respect in a certain degree. It's not total control. Trump has control as the executive
Starting point is 01:10:55 branch. Trump deranged rant 440,000. Those are fine. All time lowest approval disaster already. Yeah, that's just factually false false trump's enjoying some of the best approval ratings he's ever had in his career i expect it to go down is mike pence his co-host apparently so he should be so you look at when he doesn't play this weird clickbait game elon musk is doing the acute source he's 28 000 84 000 and then when he does play the the obvious absurdities bro no one's coming no lawyers warning liberals trump's gonna come after you david oh shut up stupidest thing imaginable but this is the world we live in where people like him make crap up like this one is the most
Starting point is 01:11:38 agree i'm sorry it's not it's not the worst he's ever done he's done a lot of stuff like this disaster already we get it dude you've got nothing to talk about i mean i i don't know i i i still don't know what the democrats do i don't know where they go from here the brand is broken and they have no talent they have nobody on the bench that's really great i don't agree that they have no talent who's who's great who's so they have people that have charisma right aoc has a lot of charisma you can't put that they have no talent. Who's great? Who's great? So they have people that have charisma, right? AOC has a lot of charisma. You can't put that in a national context. I disagree with you.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I think that they can. But listen, the point isn't just about the talent. The point is the actual party has to decide what they're going to do. And if they go with the progressives that hate the rich, they're going to lose all their funding. Right. Right? Because the progressives, like, you're going to lose all their funding. Right. Right. Because the progressives, like you're going to lose any kind of wealthy Jewish people. They're not going to go.
Starting point is 01:12:30 They're not going to support them because the progressives absolutely hate Israel. And they literally are on the side of Hamas. You're going to lose anybody that's got any kind of capital because they want to, you know, they want to get rid of, they want a wealth tax. They want, you know, they want to, you know, tax people based on their net worth not on the actual money they make and stuff so they the progressive party will have no funding and the democrat whole the whole democrat party will fall apart then but that might be where the energy is the the young people are more on the progressive side the the democrats that are young. And then you've got like the normal kind of middle of the road Democrats that are still kind of like Democrats that haven't moved over to the
Starting point is 01:13:12 I'm not a leftist. And they're still trying to save the party. People like Richie Torres, people like, I don't know, there's people. What did you have on the show in D.C. when you guys were there? Ro Khanna. People like Ro Khanna. Yeah, Ro Khanna's good. Ro Khanna kind of walks between the two. But the point is. Well, I would say Ro Kh show in D.C. when you guys were there? Ro Khanna. People like Ro Khanna. Yeah, Ro Khanna's good.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Ro Khanna kind of walks between the two. But the point is— Well, I would say Ro Khanna's nice. Yes. But his logic is that of the destroying America kind. Yeah, but I think he's a good person. Let's put it that way. As opposed to many of these people that are just terrible people. I would just say if Ro Khanna is a good person, he's a deeply, deeply ignorant and dangerously ignorant person.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Yes, I believe that. I like his takes during the Twitter files. Exactly. He says the right thing more than most Democrats. But his world view is that illegal immigrants are legitimate immigrants who should be protected.
Starting point is 01:13:58 That's insane. And that's something that the general population of the United States doesn't agree with. What are the Democrats going to do? Let's jump to this story from NBC News. Doge will use AI to assess the responses of federal workers who were told to justify their jobs via email. Trump then said anyone who doesn't will be fired. Now, we know that Tulsi, the DOD, Cash have told their departments or their branches, respectively, do not respond to this.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Cash, I think, said we'll put a pause on this. He said, don't respond. We'll handle our stuff internally. But this is fascinating in that one of the biggest scandals in American history with the news losing their minds is that a special employee to the government, to the president, just said, so what do you do here? Democrats are freaking out. They don't want the emails to be to be answered. They're calling it power struggles. In in what reality would we allow people at any company to ignore emails and not explain the job they are doing and then cry about having to even get these emails they're acting so traumatized i saw so i flew here yesterday i was on when you get into uh dallas you got to go on
Starting point is 01:15:10 that little train to go over to the main terminal and do customs there was this lesbian in front of me and she was telling her partner oh i got that she was hhs she was telling the partner that she got the email and she didn't respond she almost did until she realized where it was coming from like when it hit her where it was coming from, like when it hit her that it was Elon Musk. And, oh, I'm not responding. She's bragging to her lesbian lover next to her about how she's not responding. Why is that woman working for the government?
Starting point is 01:15:35 I shut up. I shut up because I'm on a train before customs. I don't want to get in trouble before I cross the border. But why is this psychopath woman allowed to say these things i'm not responding because i saw who it come from because it came from elon imagine you work for us we pay your salary but get out just imagine somebody working for burger king right yeah and they're standing there and the boss walks up and goes hey uh we're pretty swamped you take the garbage out and they turn i ain't taking the garbage out it's like okay well you're not gonna work here exactly just quit leave get out get lost but these people want to work for the government because the government is a
Starting point is 01:16:07 free paycheck. Yes. And they haven't had to do any work for a long time. But she's a subversive. I mean, there's just one. I don't know what she does. She could be a janitor. I don't know what she was. She was just some nutcase that was in front of me on this little team. She's going to be like senior counsel to the defense of Joe Biden. She's a subversive parasite. These are subversive parasites. And that's why things don't get done. That's why when Elon was talking the other day about Trump was the executive order and they don't get enforced, they don't even get done at all. This is why. Because this parasite thing that was in front of me is running the show over there. It's a disgrace. They should be thrown out. They should be thrown out. And frankly,
Starting point is 01:16:41 if they're subverting the president's orders or the orders of the secretary and you're working for the government, you should be charged. Yeah. Well, I don't know about what charges exist for that. Well, there should be something. What? I disagree. Subverting the will of the God. Like subverting.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Being lazy at work doesn't put you in jail. I don't know if it's laziness. I don't know if it's laziness. Yeah, it's not about me. I think what he's referring to is malicious compliance. Yeah. Doing things that they say to do but actually can't do. Yes, and just not doing it.
Starting point is 01:17:09 I disagree. Completely disagree. You get fired. That's it. If somebody gets hired by a company and then you're like, take the garbage out, so they dump the garbage on the ground, you don't get arrested. You say, okay, you're fired. No, but you're working for the government. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Government doesn't get special action to imprison people who are stupid. I get what you're saying, but the point is, if somebody works for the government and the boss says, you need to handle this report for this institution and they go, OK, and they do it wrong. The boss is going to be like, you subverted my will. So we're charging you. That's ridiculous. You do you, but you do a bad job. You get fired. That's all it is. Somebody works for the government and they're like, I'm not going to do my job. Like, well, there's the door. That's it. Goodbye. Get out. And what we're dealing with right now is you've got hundreds of thousands, millions of federal employees, and you've got people who actively don't work. And they think they should get free money from us.
Starting point is 01:18:00 They should be fired. That's it. It's real simple. Now, I do think the email is clever in that it says, if you don't respond, it'll be presumed as a resignation because. Well, now they've just quit. True. So you don't need to go through any of the weird. You go through some of it. They're going to try and make claims. But I got to be honest, if if if they sent out an email and say, please respond to this email and you do not, now it's insubordination. Now it's dereliction of duty. So if they send out one email every day, the deadline is tonight. If they send out one email, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Starting point is 01:18:36 Friday, saying, we've not heard from you. Please respond. We're awaiting your response. After the second or third email, they have a clean termination. Because then they're going to sue and be like oh what did i get fired they're going to be like well anybody who wasn't answering their work emails is the project they were on got that let go i mean that's just dereliction of duty right goodbye i mean i i don't think that i don't think that should be particularly controversial i imagine that if that did happen that would be another situation where they would try to bring it before courts they They would try and challenge it in courts. And I say bring it on because these kind of challenges in courts will result in the court deciding the president has the Article 2 power. The bureaucracy does not.
Starting point is 01:19:17 If you don't do your job, we're going to fire you. What I want to know with these people is how hard is it to go into chat GPT or Grok or somewhere and just ask them, what should a person in my position be doing on any given day? It's not like he's like, you know, send evidence. No, they're not asking for evidence. They're not asking for anything. They're too stupid or too ridiculous or whatever the word is. I don't know what the word is.
Starting point is 01:19:42 They can't even figure out how to do that. They have to go cry on CNN. And any one of them that went to the media and cried about it, they should be fired on the spot. The minute they get before they even end the hit on the TV, they get a text. You don't come back in. I mean, look, there's there's not there's not a way that anyone will get fired that I will disagree with. If you can come up with a reason to fire someone in the government, fire them. I was watching clips today from CNN.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Kevin Leary. Leary or O'Leary? O'Leary. Shark Tank. Shark Tank guy. He was on CNN and he was absolute, like he was talking about cutting. He's like, you cut and cut. He's like, you might cut into some meat, but now that you have the opportunity, you cut and you cut and you cut and you cut.
Starting point is 01:20:27 That's what you do in business, blah, blah, blah. And they were mortified, absolutely mortified. But that's really what you should do. If you make massive, massive cuts and you overdo it, you can replace those people. You can find someone. You can offer them the job back you can find other people that are qualified to do the job there will be people that want to do the job make the cuts while you have the opportunity trump might actually build back better
Starting point is 01:20:55 you should probably use that yeah steal it from europe biden stole that slogan from here but everybody did everybody used it they use it in uh lifelong's wild. Everybody used it. They used it in Haiti. The Clintons used it in Haiti like years ago. But I mean, it's funny because didn't Biden plagiarize that Irish guy in the 80s? All he ever did is plagiarize. The man has never had an original thought in his life. Career plagiarist, yeah. Like he never has had an original thought.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Well, he doesn't really matter much now, does he? No. Not at all. He's with the CAA. He's on the talent agency. And Kamala signed to it, too, the talent agency. It's interesting how they all go straight there. No, Biden's going to have no post-presidency.
Starting point is 01:21:33 He's just going to sit in that house in Delaware and rot away. He was dead before he even left. I mean, the brain is gone. Well, yeah, look, I mean, some people, like, the time for your, you know, time for you to be in the public eye. When that time ends, it's different for everybody. For Biden, it was probably four or five years ago. It was actually. Biden Library will be a mausoleum.
Starting point is 01:21:56 The Biden Library. Yeah. What are you going to have? So while we're still in the segment, I'll address two comments because we normally save Super Chats. But we had one comment from someone who said that I was either intentionally or egotistically ignoring the point that people who intentionally do wrong in the federal government should be charged. I believe if you have a job and you intentionally don't do your job, the penalty should be termination. I don't care if you're working for the government or the private sector. You get hired to do a job and you're like, I'm going to do the opposite, it's like, OK, you're fired. If you steal money to go on vacation, that's a crime. But if someone's
Starting point is 01:22:32 like mop the floor and then you kick over a two liter of Coke, it's like, get out. You don't go to jail for that. If someone says something like, hey, file this paperwork by the end of the week, and then you're like, no, and then you don't do it, you don't go to jail for that. If someone shredded a bunch of classified documents destroying important government paperwork, that's destruction of property like those crimes. They already exist. Not doing your job properly is not a crime. Destroying government property. Those things are already crimes. And then Kako said you wanted to charge buzz for flying illegals, but not government workers who defy orders. Those are so radically different. A pilot who knows they are smuggling and it is literally smuggling. An illegal immigrant comes on their plane holding
Starting point is 01:23:17 a document saying they're not a citizen and they have no right to travel this country, no ID to prove who they are. And the pilot goes, fine by me. You're smuggling. Let's put it this way. You own a plane, small little little five seater. And some guy walks up and says, I'm not a citizen. I have no right to fly in this country and I'm here illegally. And you're like, well, I guess hop on board. I'm getting paid for this. That's called being a human smuggler. Yeah. You work for a commercial airline and then go, my boss told me I have to fly these people. They're not here legally. They have documents proving they're not here legally. They didn't show their IDs, but it's fine.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I'm like, yeah, you're just a higher end human smuggler. It's almost like it. Come on. You know what? I was going to get a little unfair. I'm not going to do. I was going to make a crude joke about some. I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 01:24:03 I'm not gonna do it i'm not gonna do it but let's just say if you are knowingly transporting illegal immigrants for cash in any capacity you're you're a smuggler you go to jail for that kamala all of them i mean but we're talking about pilots on planes yeah and these stories were that there were planes full of illegal immigrants holding documents saying i'm undocumented citizen or I'm sorry, undocumented immigrant left. Go to the Phoenix airport. And the pilots and these are pilots being like, whatever. So what about working for a large corporate airline shields you from being a smuggler? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Would you say the Border Patrol? Because I was at the, you know, when I was in Yuma, those Border Patrol are loading them up on the vans giving them rides to the airport i'm in jail right that's that's part of the smuggling yes they were they were and they go but biden told me to do it i'm like oh yeah the smugglers over there they have a boss too should we not arrest them yeah well but their boss is a bad guy how do you know their boss might be the mayor of a city this might be way better than biden because what was going on was unbelievable no that border stuff it was straight up human trafficking. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Like four years of legal human trafficking. And child human trafficking. Absolutely. Like hundreds of thousands of kids. Sexual exploitation, the stuff that went on. How many kids are missing? I mean, they said 300,000, I think. 300,000. If they said 300,000, who knows how many it really is.
Starting point is 01:25:20 That's probably double at the very least. Yeah, because there's some of those bridges on the border down there that are just covered in pictures of missing kids it's it's a disgrace so sad it's so sad it's evil yeah yeah so so kaka was making the argument that a government worker who defies orders should be imprisoned yeah that's that's actual fascism i don't want to live in that country i don't live in a country where you have a guy saying like let's say the task is rather mundane because what we're talking about the federal workers being fired. So a lot of these jobs are rather mundane filing paperwork and reconciling expense reports. So a guy comes in and says, we got an expense report for, you
Starting point is 01:25:54 know, $17,000 for a trip that was done by a few delegates. I want you to reconcile. And he goes, I'm not going to do it. They should arrest that person. That's insane to me. You say, okay, get out. We'll get someone who does, who will go to jail for that. And there's a dramatic difference between that and someone being like now. Imagine if the boss came in and says, we've got this expense report for a trip. A few delegates took totaling seventeen thousand dollars, but I stole 13 of it. So I want you to write in there that 13 of it went to travel and expenses so that I don't go to jail. If that person goes, you got a boss, then they should all go to jail. That's flying a plane for a major corporation knowing you're smuggling illegal immigrants
Starting point is 01:26:32 and being like, my boss told me to do it. You see the difference? Now, I'll tell you this. What if defying orders? What if the orders are illegal? Oh, well, now that's different. OK, what if the person thinks the orders are illegal? You see, this is the problem.
Starting point is 01:26:45 If someone doesn't want to do a job, you fire them. If somebody worked for an airline and a bunch of people came in who are clearly not illegal immigrants, they had those documents, they had folders that said, like, help, I'm an illegal immigrant. They didn't have IDs and they were being let on these planes. If I was a pilot in that situation, I'd get up and be like, no. And they'd be like, you can't do that. We'll fire you. I'm not committing a crime. Are you nuts? Don this one's legal yeah says you why would i expose myself to legal criminal liability in this regard should like
Starting point is 01:27:14 should that person be fired or penalized for that no they should be given a medal right so uh yeah there you go i don't know i don't have a problem with people going to jail or being investigated and prosecuted for refusing to file an expense report no for intentionally going out of their way to frustrate the orders of the
Starting point is 01:27:37 president or of their of the organization they're working for but what does that mean because how do you codify that so if you're so if you, like I said, the idea is malicious compliance. If you're doing something that you're told to do, and you're doing it in a way that is actually going to produce results counter to whatever it is that you're trying to do. You think people should go to jail for that?
Starting point is 01:28:01 You should get prosecuted. Maybe not go to jail, but maybe you get fined. But there should be legal repercussions. Maybe they don't go to jail. that. She'd get prosecuted. Maybe not go to jail, but maybe you get fined. But there should be legal repercussions. Maybe they don't go to jail. Maybe they get put on probation. Maybe it's not a felony. But there's nothing wrong with saying, when it comes to the federal government, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Because you're trying to frustrate the will of the elected representative. The difficulty there is in any way to prove intent with malicious compliance. Certainly, in some instances, you can. But that seems absolutely wild because a lot of these circumstances are going to be things like filing expense reports. Fair enough. And so if you don't have the evidence, you know, fine. Yeah, but I still think that's just absolutely insane. I mean, if we're talking about, like, we need these classified documents to be delivered to the office of the president now because there's a national security crisis and they intentionally and they're told to go to room 101a and they go to room 101a in the west wing and go oopsie daisies
Starting point is 01:28:54 and you're like you intentionally withheld classified information in national security that's absolutely different so you yeah you can't but you can't prove we're not talking about that we're talking about federal workers which include like people who who are like the reason i say expense reports is a lot of these are bureaucrats who deal with like form 1a being emailed to john smith dot you know at whitehouse.gov and and we're talking about putting people in prison for being like i sent it to the email you told me to but it's the wrong one i'm not saying that it necessarily requires prison or i'm saying in any way prosecuting a person for most compliance to me is just absolutely insane. You fight you like there are there are stories where it's like you there's a separate dedicated this r slash
Starting point is 01:29:35 malicious compliance. And so let's let's talk about what this would look like. In most of these stories, it is boss was stupid and wrong and told me to do thing. So I did it and it screwed things up. So a mid-level manager in a federal agency says I recently hired. There's a guy who handles tax paperwork and expense reports. He's been there for 10 years. The new manager guy says policy and procedure is that you do it this way. And they go, I'm not supposed to do it that way. I'm supposed to do it this way and say, well, you're doing what I'm what I'm telling you to do. They go, OK, if that's what you want, knowing that the instructions were wrong, they then send the files to the wrong email
Starting point is 01:30:12 address, jamming up the functions of government, knowing it would happen. The idea that we would then be like, you should be criminally charged for doing that is insane to me. This is typically what these stories are. Well, again, i don't i'm not saying that it's every single like every single instance that someone should could possibly uh behave in that way should should be prosecuted but i think that having it as an option i don't think there's where you think about this this whistleblower i've been talking to with fbi she was a quality assurance auditor for the name check program and years ago she saw that there was all these discrepancies with names in the database. And they kept being certain names were kept in limbo during background
Starting point is 01:30:50 checks. She went to her leadership, they said, literally fly under the radar, don't talk about it. She kept going back saying this is a problem. She believes that some of these things would lead to like a Thomas Crook situation, or how there's so much incompetence with the security. Would the leaders in your opinion, both you guys, all three of you think that those people should be uh arrested or just fired for allowing uh discrepancies in a name check program right because they're what they're doing could lead to well disasters you're talking about people being lazy in the government is it lazy or is it criminal lazy incompetence orence or is it? Yeah. And again, I think my point is just that that there's there should be recourse possible. Not that it's not that it's necessary. Let's say it's a Biden administration and the CBP is instructed to start allowing all sex traffickers to transport children into prostitution and sex slavery.
Starting point is 01:31:41 And which literally they were doing. And then you've got government workers being like, I will not file this paperwork. Are you kidding me? And then they get arrested and go to jail. Well, again. Or criminally charged or prosecuted because there's codified law saying the interference in public duties is a crime if you work for the government. Put that in front of a jury and see what the jury says. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:32:02 Have you seen a D.C. jury? I'm not. Look, it might look different federal federal jury's conviction rates are like 97 these are hypotheticals and that and your point about the federal about about having 97 conviction rates that would lead me to believe that the the administration wouldn't want that to be put publicly they wouldn't want that kind of heat they wouldn't because they don't want to they you can't guarantee that they're going to be uh they would raid the home of that person and plant a grenade and then and then say like if we find a weapon okay again but these are because that
Starting point is 01:32:32 also literally this is all this is all hypothetical stuff my point is you know when i look at the cultural issues we deal with there's the argument of the slippery slope goes in every direction we we want we want to make sure that we are fighting the moral battles where we draw the moral lines. What we don't want to do is codify in law a vague and nebulous statement like negligence of duty is a criminal offense, because then that will be literally like then they'll literally start arresting anybody who ever in any way tries to do the right thing. If you get a corrupted corrupted machine right and maybe what i was asking i would be okay with someone going to jail if they could actually draw a straight line from a tragedy to their quote-unquote negligence i i'm not even a fan of that yeah like you look at what's going on with these gun manufacturers and they're like if someone buys your gun and then someone uses it in a tragedy the gun manufacturers at fault like no you're not well i'm saying if they let a name go through that didn't go through the proper channels in the name check database and that person ended up becoming someone who caused harm i i think i think the the the line would be did they intentionally right try to trigger an event not are they bad at their job
Starting point is 01:33:44 yeah yeah and that's part of the investigation is it incompetence or, not are they bad at their job? Yeah. Yeah. And that's part of the investigation. Is it incompetence or is it, are they an accomplice? And the issue is if it wasn't incompetence, it's already illegal. Yeah. And then the question of the issue of government is that we have a lot of people who are bad or lazy, like the bad at the jobs that are lazy, and they're hard to fire because of unions and federal protections.
Starting point is 01:34:05 They're getting fired now and it's a very, very good thing. Yeah. But I don't think we want to live in a world where you can get fired for being bad at your job. I agree. You just said you don't want to live in a world where we get arrested. Okay. You can be charged whatever it might be because you're bad at your job it if it has to be you intentionally damaged government property intentionally obstructed government actions for the purpose of crime not that
Starting point is 01:34:32 you you you didn't show up for work one day so we're charging you yeah because i mean like the gist of what we're talking about is the people not responding to emails yeah you don't respond to an email you're saying i'm not going to respond to the email refuse to do it and that's what spawned the they should be charged question so that that that to me is an absurdity so don't respond to an email. You're saying I'm not going to respond to the email. I refuse to do it. And that's what spawned the they should be charged question. So that to me is an absurdity. So don't arrest everyone who doesn't respond to the email. Oh, I didn't say arrest everyone who doesn't respond to the email. You said they should be charged. No, not for not responding to the email.
Starting point is 01:34:55 You said there was a woman who got an email and she said, I'm not going to respond to it. These people should be fired. Yes. And what I said is this looks like somebody who's going to be very subversive within HHS. These are people that need to be thrown out and possibly charged if they're being subversive to the orders given by the president or by the agency head. Not for not responding to an email. Right. So that was two different things that got. If you are actively damaging the system of governance. Yeah. We don't know what active subversion is going on within that agency by people like her,
Starting point is 01:35:26 by people like that. You don't know what they're doing or what they're not doing. You don't know what's going on. So they should be— Not for the email. For the email, just throw her out. That's it. Right, fire them all.
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Starting point is 01:36:34 The deplorable Miss Drake says, I love that Trump appointed a pardon czar. Way too many people in this country are falsely imprisoned. Still not tired of winning. Epic. The common neighbor says, congrats. did you feel the rush of super dad strength indeed i immediately felt like i could punch a bear that's right i always felt like i could punch a bear i just don't think i'd survive it was different all right quantum strange quarks is five bullet points one stole from the taxpayer two stole from the taxpayer three stole from the taxpayer you get where that's going. Jason Dixon says, congrats on the baby.
Starting point is 01:37:09 You talked in the past about getting your game finished. Let It's Based Gaming take a look at it. Not through Ian. All right. I can get them in contact with your people. Give me a name. Ian is the people. Sorry, we don't have a game development mechanism here.
Starting point is 01:37:22 We'll figure it out in the Discord. Maybe someone in the Discord who works here can help facilitate that. Michael Barr. Can you give a shout out to the birth of my baby girl? Her name is Riley. She was born yesterday morning. It was a long journey to get to this moment. Indeed good, sir! Congratulations. Congratulations. I know exactly how you feel.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Well, not exactly, but similarly. As my child was born only a few days ago. All right, let's see. Dergal, is that what it says? Normally, I liked Elad. To be honest, I thought he was a good contrast until he advocated for tax on unrealized gains and made himself look ridiculous and uneducated. Yeah, we like I like Elad.
Starting point is 01:37:59 We like Elad for his field reporting. It's very straightforward. He doesn't get overly emotional. He asks people the basic question and lets them give you an answer so you're getting a better assessment of how they feel about things but man if that man does not understand taxes holy crap elod he literally has no idea how taxes work what they are what they're supposed to be and i don't think he even understands what he wants the issue with the debate we had and then i guess phil you had another debate with him later on.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Yeah, there was the call-in show, and people were calling in, and they wanted to talk to Eli about it. And essentially, I mean, I tried to make sure that I wasn't strawmanning his position and stuff. But as soon as we got to the point where I would get him to elaborate, he would get frustrated and say, well, you know, we need some method to get, you know, to tax these people because it's such a small percentage of people and and they have so much blah, blah, blah. And it's a communist. It's I'm not exaggerating. Elad is a he's not a neocon.
Starting point is 01:38:53 He's a neoliberal. He's he's a expansionist, militaristic pro seizing of property, wealth and equity. And he can't articulate it properly. And this is exactly what leftists and communists are. So I can break down for you. Everything I think about tax policy and law, it's very complicated. But in terms of like a wealth tax, why doesn't work by property taxes is largely a failed system. And his response, whenever these questions come up, was literally just to go, I don't know. I don't know. He's just got too much. It is of the left and the literally just to go, I don't know. I don't know. He's just got too much.
Starting point is 01:39:25 It is of the left and the communists to say, I don't understand my position. I don't know how to solve my problem. I'm just angry. Someone has lots of money. Yeah. And then, like, we tried walking through, like, Elad, he doesn't have the cash. How would he pay taxes? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Okay, well, he can't then. So for those that are wondering, the base of the base of the conversation is the point I do want to make is he said some people believe that these powerful, wealthy people are using loopholes to avoid paying taxes. And I said, well, there's no loopholes. That's not a thing. Loophole is not a thing. That's a made up term by leftists to create the idea that rich people are not paying their fair share of taxes. And what does fair share mean? Literally, I don't know. But the Democrats and the left, they want you to believe that being wealthy is inherently wrong. So they say they're not paying their taxes by using a loophole.
Starting point is 01:40:16 You then say, what's the loophole? And as Allad tries to explain, he owns equity in a company worth lots of money. And you're like, OK, well, that's just ownership in a company. That not cash he says i don't know i don't care we've got to do something so when it comes to the actual argument it breaks down completely yeah and and that's without even getting into you know the results from that kind of policy if like the very first thing that would happen is if you were to do that, someone like Bezos is, well, they move. So now you can't tax them anymore.
Starting point is 01:40:49 All the money goes offshore. Unfortunately, there's no money to tax. Well, all the property, he would move so that way he's not subject to the laws. Oh, absolutely. So he doesn't have to sell his property. Well, this U.S. passport, you know you're taxed worldwide no matter where you go. You'd get rid of it. It's worth it.
Starting point is 01:41:04 You would leave. It's called St. Kitts and Nevis. Exactly. That's exactly what you do. They go to St. Kitts and Nevis and they buy passports because St. Kitts passports are used. They're very great passports. Yes. And then they say, I'm no longer American citizen.
Starting point is 01:41:16 You renounce the U.S. Yeah, I think it's 50 grand. Wow. To renounce? No, to get the passport. To buy citizenship. Absolutely. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:41:23 There's a few. There's Paraguay. There's Panama. A lot of different places. Almost all countries. Yeah. Almost all countries have what's called the passport. Yes, yes, yes. And there's a few. There's Paraguay. There's Panama. A lot of different places. Almost all countries. Yeah. Almost all countries have what's called economic citizenship. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Or investment citizenship, where if you deposit a certain – it's really crazy. You deposit a million dollars in a bank account in a country, they'll give you citizenship. Yeah. And it's usually much less than that, honestly, in a lot of these countries. Yeah, some countries – well, the smaller ones, it's like 50 grand. Paraguay is like the big thing now, and it's territorial tax. So a lot of people will just go. So if you earn money from outside of Paraguay, you don't have to pay tax.
Starting point is 01:41:51 You only earn on what you pay, what you get within the country. So I know tons of people. They're moving to Paraguay. Not so much Americans, because then you've got to renounce American. People don't want to do that for family. Canadians, they're all running to Paraguay. So let me just elaborate this for all the people out there going no there's loopholes so a lot of argument was bezos is worth for uh you know 100 billion dollars but only pays taxes on a million because worth dollars and income are two totally different things yep the reason i say there's no loopholes is because congress
Starting point is 01:42:21 and your politicians at the state level pass a law saying you are required to pay X. Wealthy people go, OK, I'll pay X. And then leftists go, he's using a loophole. What do you mean a loophole? I'm following the law as it was written down. And then they say, yeah, but you have imaginary money that you can't spend. So give it to me. That's a lot of position. And it's like, OK. Bezos isn't doing the crazy thing is I don't even understand why a lot is mad that Bezos is rich. OK, why do you care that Bezos is worth one hundred eighty billion dollars? No, I got a question. What is that written down word in the newspaper mean at all to your life? And why are you mad at Bezos? Has he taken that $180 billion, liquidated it, not paid his taxes,
Starting point is 01:43:08 and then, I don't know, funded a whole bunch of left-wing programs? No. Because as soon as he liquidates the stock, he's got to pay taxes on it. Okay, so what's the loophole? He's not made money. What is he paying taxes on? Absurdities. He has a problem with someone that has a net worth of that much, but that just means that he has a problem
Starting point is 01:43:24 with people having property. Right. It's communism. Yeah. I tried explaining this to him. If you're saying that Jeff Bezos has too much wealth because of the value of Amazon, because his wealth is tied to his equity in Amazon, and that he should be forced to pay against that, meaning he would have to sell some of his equity in the company, you're advocating for the seizing of the means of production from Jeff Bezos. It's like, no, I'm not. I'm like, he's been in New York City too long. It sounds like you should have a culture war with a lot in tax person.
Starting point is 01:43:54 You guys are not. It's not property tax works. Historically, a family in the United States would stake a claim on some land when it was like sparsely populated, draw their boundaries, like put up a fence or something. And then as urban areas and rural areas and suburban areas started to grow more densely populated, people started to say, hey, this is my property. That's your property. And so they start putting in markers. We started then setting up in the government, hey, we're going to draw the lots up. You claimed this. He claimed this. It used to be it's really crazy. You could claim a few acres
Starting point is 01:44:25 for a farm and then there'd be someone, a neighbor, and there's gaps in between your properties that neither of you use. It was claimed by no one. Now, with populations so dense, ownership of land is getting more difficult. What ends up happening is when they introduce property taxes, this is how the government seizes the lands from the American people. We should abolish property taxes 100%. Everybody give me a one in the chat if you think we should abolish property taxes. I'll tell you why. These historic families take a claim, let's say it's 100 acres, and they set up a farm, and it's the year 1620. Their kids live there, they give them the farm. Their kids grow up, they give them the farm. The year is now 1943 or whatever, and the county comes in and says,
Starting point is 01:45:03 we're going to charge property tax on this hundred acres, which is worth X. You have to give us cash based on the size of your lot. The family goes, but we're just poor farmers. We don't make no money. We just grow food, need it. And they say, sell an acre and use that money to pay your taxes. And they go, all right, I guess. So they sell one of their hundred. Someone buys it, builds a house, and they use that money to pay their taxes for the year. Every year they sell one acre to cover the cost of the property taxes, reducing the property. And you can actually look at property maps and see how this has been done across the country. How the government has effectively been destroying ownership rights of land through property taxes.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Take a look at any semi-rural area that's going suburban. You can, every state has like a property lookup and you can look up the properties and see. And what you'll find is there's interesting plots of land with lines that seemingly like, you'll see a road here and you'll see like two roads or four roads, one down here, two here, and one in the middle, a big plot of land right in the middle. And then a line cutting through it and single acre lots all alongside it. And if you go back far enough, you'll be like, ah, that used to be a single plot. The roads were around it because it was a single person's plot and they were forced to sell off their property piece by piece because the government was taxing them on something that didn't make money for them. It's happening all over West Virginia right now. This whole area,
Starting point is 01:46:22 the country, the farmland is completely gone. And these houses are like growing out of the ground overnight. It's crazy. They don't have enough hospitals for these people out here. So by us, there's massive developments going on. So we're in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia. And you can actually see how these developers came in. And this one, I'm fine with developers went in and went to property owners who owned like 200 acres. It was in their family for generations. And they said, we'll buy it off you. That's totally fine. I'm going to buy your land. You're going to be rich and you can leave. And they say, okay, I'll do that. The problem is the property tax system creates pressure on these
Starting point is 01:46:57 people to where the developer walks in and says, look, I'm gonna give a million dollars for your rural acreage. It's worth nothing. You don't got the money to pay your property taxes. So if you sit on this and don't take this deal, you're going to have to start parceling off your property every year to pay the taxes. Or you can sell it to me right now and be a millionaire. And so they say, well, our seventh generation farm is now sold to the developer. And was it turned into a bunch of McMansions? Yeah. Also, the amount of eminent domain cases that happen where they're building a highway and just take a piece of your farm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:25 We're just cutting you know, but you know about that little triangle in New York where they were they eminent domained a bill a they build a highway and then it sliced through a guy's whole building and they seized it from him except for a little tiny like four inch triangle, which is now on the ground with a placard saying
Starting point is 01:47:42 owned by this guy and never a portion for public use. Wow. I lived at the bottom of a mountain where a town called Doodle Town used to be created, founded after, like before the revolution. And up until the 1960s, these people lived up there. And the government came through and said, we're going to build a ski slope here. Kicked everyone out.
Starting point is 01:47:58 And they never built a ski slope. Wow. And all the people from Doodle Town came down to our town. And it's a ghost town. Doodle Town? Doodle Town. Yeah. Like Yankee Doodle Dandy. Yeah. Crazy. Wow. And all the people from Doodle Town came down to our town. And it's a ghost town. Doodle Town? Doodle Town. Like Yankee Doodle Dandy. Crazy. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Kenneth Hart says, Tim, thanks for being here. Now go home and play video games while your kid naps on your chest. It's awesome. Trust me, I know. You know what's the most interesting thing? Is that I figured I learned that they actually technically are talking the moment they're born. Really? It's not that they're saying words.
Starting point is 01:48:28 It's that there's guttural grunts and noises which are easily communicable. Oh yeah. They communicate. They do. Absolutely. Obviously crying is communication but there's like I'm hungry. Yeah. There's sounds where you're like I know what that means.
Starting point is 01:48:44 And then facial expressions all reflexive and innate. Yeah. There's sounds where you're like, I know what that means. Like, you know, and then facial expressions, all reflexive and innate. Yeah. It's like, wow. Yeah. It's like the communication starts instantly. You know, humans may are born very early relative to other animals. But, you know, beings of this earth, like we've got stuff in us instinct reflex etc one thing that's really cool is uh blind people who are blind since birth when they win raise their fists in the air
Starting point is 01:49:11 indicating it is an instinctive it's an instinct and reflex of accomplishment because they did not learn to do that behavior by watching someone else do it right there's a bunch of things like that humans just do that's right? There's a bunch of things like that. Humans just do. That's wild. Yeah, it's crazy, right? All right, let's see. What do we have? What do we got? Shannon Swalder says, Welcome back, Tim.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Congratulations on the birth of your baby. I hope mother and child are doing well. Let's go. This is forwarding the line. Indeed. I slept decently well. Nice. You know uh baby woke up every few hours crying allison is very strong and doing a great job and uh taking and admittedly taking a lot of the responsibilities to make sure baby is okay because she knows that i'm doing two shows every day and we've got a big staff in the company
Starting point is 01:50:00 and uh i am indebted and very lucky to uh to be with alice and she's fantastic i'm also really lucky that we're like very similar people and we grew up in a similar way and we like a lot of the same things and like yeah man very lucky to have all that let's grab some more super chats horsehead says tim any chance of having dan on the show again before he starts the new position sounds like bongino show will continue for now right yeah so i guess he's going to keep doing the show until he does leave for that job which is going to be somewhat soon and then i don't know if he's going to have a host take the show over he should have someone host show in his in his absence he never had any co-hosts did he just? He's got a couple people in the network, I think. Okay, yeah. Who can fill in for him, which is normal.
Starting point is 01:50:47 But it's not the same, man. No, no. He knows it. And I hope people realize, would you be willing to? I mean, maybe we're a different breed. But if someone said, I'll give you $20 million a year for the rest of your life, plus equity in the company, he's a big shareholder in Rumble, you will want for nothing you will have
Starting point is 01:51:05 private jets or you can give it all up to go and work a civil service job for 200 000 a year how many people are going to be like i'll take it i mean so i get what you're saying but he does like for me i don't have any kind of qualification that would put me in a position and especially like dan bongino it does have like a very very narrow qualification and like i like we were saying earlier we i legit believe he does love the country he does believe that the law enforcement agency the fbi has been on the wrong track and been doing things that are contrary to what you know the fbi should be doing so i mean if i were in his position because he's not losing the the his equity stake in in in or any any he's not losing any property right he's going
Starting point is 01:51:53 his show he's losing mil 10 to 10 between 10 and 30 million dollars of cash every year yeah yeah i mean i understand that bro that's that's that's 200 foot yacht. But he's already got tons of money. Yeah. And he's got tons of, you know, he's not like he's... Hold on there, Elad. Yeah, I was just going to... His equity in Rumble is not cash. He can't spend.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Fair enough, fair enough. And if he liquidates, it would... If Dan Bongino announced, I don't need the money because I can liquidate my Rumble stock, then the stock would become worthless. Yes. I do understand he's a very wealthy individual but that doesn't change the fact that he's like cash and and and hard wealth are totally different i mean i conceive of this in the same way that
Starting point is 01:52:35 donald trump did it right donald trump was a you know worth billions of dollars yeah and then he went to be the president and he doesn't even take a salary or he didn't maybe he does now but he didn't for the first four years and that's i kind of equated to that now and then trying to relate that to myself i don't have that kind of you know specialized knowledge specialized uh you know that kind of job like you know that that i i i just don't have that so i don't people it's a great sack people are chatting he's set already and i I'm like, nah, uh-uh. How old is he? Is he late 40s? Yeah, he still has a lot of time left.
Starting point is 01:53:09 I personally want nothing to do with the government, but I watched his live stream earlier, and he clearly wants to be – that was an emotional thing for him. He wants to be a part of it. For him, it seems awesome. It's his passion. It's the stuff he's been talking about. Now he gets to go and not just talk about it. to go tackle it like take it down directly but that's
Starting point is 01:53:28 what that's what i'm saying and in four years he'll be back and he can do what he's doing now well maybe it's not four years no well yeah well yeah that's true if vance if vance or somebody or anybody if the republicans win again he could stay and they they want cash to remain in right and dan to stay you're actually fbi used to be a 10-year term but it's deputy director exactly no exactly pointed by the director no you're right you're they might be like you're the greatest we've ever had stay please we need you true he's a patriot that's it it's the end of the story he's a patriot i i do agree with the idea of like he is wealthy he'll be wealthy forever no no i totally understand that but there's more than money dan has tremendous social capital and influence as one of the biggest. He has consistently the
Starting point is 01:54:09 biggest live show in the world every day. Just like you look at his concurrent view, to give up, it's not even just about the cash, it's the influence and the celebrity. He fights so hard to build up this channel to be influential and the concerning thing is stepping away from this position could have potentially opened the door for the left to move in gain more influence and then oust or or harm the the populist movement so there's a tremendous risk and sacrifice in going to do this job right now can he not do like a weekly update on his show well i'm like this is what i've been seeing this week to you know to the degree he can to the degree he can he might
Starting point is 01:54:49 be able to come in and give consistent updates pretty cool but i know people who work in government since the trump administration got in and the general attitude is like there's policies procedures for what we can and can't talk about we don't want to talk about things that could compromise the work we're doing so we typically don't and it's like i don't know mad respect to uh to dan bung you know you can tell that this is his true passion oh yeah and what i love about this the most is that every single thing he said on his show has just been backed up he was tested and he passed yeah when it came time and said hey you've been talking big game he says i'll take the job yeah it's like you're gonna give up 20 million dollars 30 million dollars he's like yeah because this is what i've been talking about the whole time now's my chance to actually do
Starting point is 01:55:27 something i'm excited man yeah i can't believe dan bongino it's so amazing i do not think he would disappoint i really do not yeah he would disappoint yeah i agree these are the cash bongino these are real real patriots they've been talking about this forever so they can't disappoint I mean they'll lose all their credibility so they won't do it it's not about
Starting point is 01:55:50 well they won't do it I agree I don't think it's about their credibility yeah I don't think they're worried about reputation
Starting point is 01:55:55 I think they're both going like let's roll yeah they're more excited than we are trust me they're more excited to get in and do this
Starting point is 01:56:01 than we're excited to see it I just want you to imagine Cash and Dan jumping in there and high-fiving each other and then freeze frame. Yeah. Let's take them down. Let's roll.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Yeah, I'm so excited. All right, all right. Well, what do we got? Katana Flair says, Tim, congrats on the baby, but missed the chance to name your baby Samantha Deadpool. But if you have a son later, Ryan Reynolds Pool, LOL. Well, why would I do that? I don't know if that name's so popular right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Tanner Tate says, I quit trusting Dan Crenshaw years ago when I went to the World Economic Forum website and saw him pictured as one of their notable members of the Young Global Leaders Initiative. So was Tulsi Gabbard. And the story there was that it was an editorial written by the World Economic Forum
Starting point is 01:56:41 without the participation of the individuals. They were simply saying, these people are rising in politics. I would imagine it more as a notice to their members of who they were looking to buy, not anyone who was actively bought. So Tulsi was like, hey, get me out of that. I don't want to be involved in that. Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:58 All right, what have we here? We'll grab a couple more. Lovey W says, wow response Tim just did. What is that about? Jason Dixon says, I own so much land. If they drop the tax, I'll make millions. If you owning the land, like owning land that can be used. So like if you own a farm in a rural area and they're taxing you and you're like, do I have $300,000 to build a house?
Starting point is 01:57:23 No. Okay. When you can't rent it. Do you want to try and rent an empty lot? You could parcel out and try and rent it. Who's going to buy it? For what? It's not so easy. And then the taxes are high. And what happens is as developers are coming in, the prices are going up. Now your taxes are going up before you have an opportunity to utilize your property for anything meaningful if you don't have the investment. So this basically just takes the land from poor people and breaks it up and destroys generational wealth all right ec3 says shane you me and billy
Starting point is 01:57:50 on the culture war and we'll get to the bottom of this lizard story no redaction shout out ec3 uh pro wrestler amazing dude no let's do that please uh i'm a big fan of smashing pumpkins and billy corgan he's. He's one of the best. All right, my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with everyone, you know, become a member. Join Rumble Premium
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Starting point is 01:58:30 It's very fun. You don't want to miss it. Joey, you want to shout anything out? Well, my Twitter is JoeyManorinoUS, and thank you all for tuning in tonight. This is great. Thank you for having me, Tim. Absolutely. Thanks for coming.
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