Timcast IRL - Democrat CRIES After GOP WINS California Primary w/ Myron Gaines
Episode Date: June 4, 2026Tim, Phil, and Ian are joined by Myron Gaines to discuss a democrat crying after GOP wins in California, Hasan Piker goes off on homophobic rant after Scott Weiner wins primary, Tim Pool says some cen...sorship is good, Republican congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna claims a protester assaulted her, Jerry O'Connell slams comments calling him a cuck, and Tim Pool says Chud The Builder will be convicted. SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - / @timcastirl Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) | @trashhouserecords (YT) Guest: Myron Gaines @MyronGainesX (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! Democrat CRIES After GOP WINS California Primary | Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email sponsorships@rumble.com
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Man, the results out of California are absolutely stunning.
Spencer Pratt.
He has taken second place in the L.A. mayoral race.
The results are not confirmed yet, but it's looking pretty good that he advances to the runoff
in November.
Now, Hilton is in the number one spot.
And this is all massive because it means turnout is likely going to be explosive for a variety
of reasons.
Now, the response from our progressive friends has been, how should I say, ungentlemanly,
And unladylike. Nithia Raman who got third place, cried. She cried. Guys, you want to hold office.
You want to be in the highest and most dangerous positions and do the hard work. You can't break down
crying when you lose. And she cried. Hassan Piker, he got angry. And I'll give him that.
Anger is a better response than tears. Hassan aptly pointed out with Steve Hilton in the frontrunner
position, it is going to light a fire under Republicans, and this is very bad news for progressive
and Democrats. It's what's going to wake up Republicans to get out and vote because now there's
an actual chance a Republican can win the governor's race in California and maybe set that state
straight. So we'll talk about that. We've got a lot of news in that response. And then, of course,
60 minutes we got to talk about because it's a bit more esoteric, but this matters towards the
prestige of these institutions. Scott Pelly was fired, losing his mind.
There's this big uproar at CBS, and Barry Wise is basically just axing all of these woke corporate damn liars.
And the media is getting shuffled around reshape, and that's going to be fun.
But I would be remissive and bring up the assault of Rep Luna.
I was shocked and appalled.
Apparently a Code Pink staffer or organizer struck Rep Luna, an assault, she says.
And then we saw the video.
Yeah, the Code Pink lady lightly tapped Luna on the arm to talk.
to her and Luna lost it and called it an assault, I guess. And it's a ridiculous story. So we're
to talk about that. Of course, the big news is the ramification of the, on the midterms. What we're
seeing in California is ridiculously good news for Republicans. So this is going to have a massive,
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Myron Gaines. Hey, thanks a having me, man. Who are you? What do you do? One half of the FreshFit
podcast, author of Why I Women Deserve Even Less, New Book Out in Stores. Book number one was
why women deserve less. Book number two is why women deserve even less, and book three coming
soon, why women deserve nothing. So yeah, happy to be here. Are you actually making those books?
Yeah, yeah. Well, he's an author. And
Good to have you. It should be fun. It'll be funny.
We got the boys hanging out, Ian, of course.
Everybody, good to be here.
Philibonte in the house. Good to see you.
Hello, everybody. Thank you very much.
A very clean cut. You look very lit, bro.
Got rid of the mustache.
Makes me look a little younger.
Did you talk about the tour already on the show?
Talk about it a little bit, yeah.
I don't want to drag it on.
Carter's here.
Yeah, he keeps saying you look really young, Phil.
Yeah. Go on tour, you lose about 10 years or so.
Wow.
That's wild.
That's correct.
Probably a lot of color you.
Yeah.
He's absorbing their energy.
It's right.
Like some kind of music vampire.
It's true. It's true.
All right, let's get the news.
We got this one from the New York Post.
Nithia Rahman's appalling tantrum after L.A.
mayoral flop.
Okay, the first thing we've got to talk about is tremendous, tremendous victory for the Republicans in L.A.
And in California statewide.
Steve Hilton is the frontrunner for the governor's race.
He'll move to a runoff.
Spencer Pratt is in second place.
He's currently up 7.1 points.
So Nitha Raman is starting to close the gap a little bit.
only 62% of the votes are in.
And the most important thing you need to understand is that California has election month
and they say they will not know the results for weeks.
My argument is because they're rigging the election.
They want to slowly count the ballots and make sure they can eliminate votes for the Republicans.
But in the meantime, Spencer Perrette had a tremendous showing.
People are screaming and cheering.
They're super excited.
Hilton is in first place for the governor's race.
And in response, I actually couldn't believe this when I was told this when the boys were like,
and you know, Nithia Rama was crying.
I was like, crying.
She's an adult woman.
What is she crying for?
Oh, I was wrong.
Their children.
I've been a candidate for something as long as you can remember.
And you've had to live through it with me.
And you've been so patient through all of it.
Thank you.
I hope you know that everything, every person in this room is.
fighting for in this campaign
has been about building
a city that's worthy of you
and every child in the city.
Oh no.
Oh no, she's crying. Quick, burn the
Constitution. Yeah, I'm okay
with a little bit of emotion. I mean, Jordan Peterson
does it well. No, he doesn't.
He does not do it well.
I think it's nice to see a grown man be, you know, not
close off. Oh, it's crazy. It's off-putting.
Depends on when you do it. It's off-putting for
people to be constantly just shut off to their emotions
as well. What's that? He does it all
the time. Sometimes he does it. He's not that extreme. But anyway, this girl, her voice was shrill.
It was annoying. I don't know what she was crying about. I mean, she lost. I don't think maybe she was
sad because she lost. I'm sorry. That's different than loving your wife so much that it brings you
to tears. Did you see that video where the female members of Congress were like my menstrual pain is so
intense. I deserve time off from work? Yeah. I mean, you know, this is what happens. It's a disease called
the K-A-S kitchen abandonment syndrome. When women aren't in the kitchen long enough, they end up crying
and doing weird things like this.
I think that her menstrual cycle would be painful whether she was in the kitchen or out of it.
It'd be less painful when she's in the kitchen.
There's actually studies out there that show the closer you are to a stove, the less it hurts during your period.
There might be something.
Well, to be fair, there's a hot bath, wine, and a nice book.
And that's why, but you know, it's funny because you're making a joke and you're like,
ha, ha, she'd be in the kitchen.
But she's asking to be.
I don't think he's joking.
No, no.
No, I mean, it's a half joke.
It's meant to be humorous.
The point is, she's agreeing with you.
Yeah.
She's saying, I want to be home because my who,
Who hurts. Now, this is the issue I take with Nithy Rahman crying. Listen, man, women can do certain jobs.
Like, if there's a six-foot-seven behemoth of a woman who talks like this and she's like,
I'm going to be a firefighter, I'd be like, okay. Like, I always make the joke that if I'm in a
burning building and I'm like gagging for air on the ground and I'm like, I'm not going to make it,
and the door busts open, I don't care if it's a man or woman. I want to see a six-foot-tall,
glistening, you know, sweaty oil hunk of muscle. And like, the last thing I want to see is
a 110-pound woman soaking wet, being like, I can't pick you up, you're going to die.
Like, so if that turns out to be a six-foot-five behemoth of a woman who's like, I'll carry you
out, I'd be like, yes, awesome. But I got to be honest, that's not likely. That's just not likely.
So truth be told, every man would prefer to see, for the most part, a ripped Arnold glistening
sweaty guy being like, I'm going to pick you up and carry you to safety. You'd be like, save me.
You know, like, you're burning to death. I don't care. I don't want to see a frail woman.
Anyway, like, my point is this. Holy crap, Nithyodaman crying over losing this race.
Well, I've asked women this question on my show as well. And I say, look, if you call 911
1, you're at the worst moment of your life, who do you want to walk through a door?
And every single time, yeah, I want a capable man. Like, it is what it is, right?
Like, you know, I think it's very important that, you know, women tend to look at, like,
the exceptions to the rule versus, like, the rule in general. Are there women out there that
capable of doing this stuff? Absolutely. But it's not enough of them. It's not a high enough
of a percentage to like substantially entire, you know, you know, society using females to do
certain masculine, dominated jobs. I mean, look, look, let's, speaking generally, it's, it's all
correct. The issue, though, is, like my point is, listen, out of a hundred guys who can lift up a person
and carry them out of a burning building, there's going to be maybe one woman who can do it.
Exactly. And so that's fine for that woman to get that job.
And that's what feminism was supposed to be.
If you're a she-hulk and you want to do this job, please, you are capable of doing it.
The problem is we turned that into, we have quotas now, and we're sending 5'4-110-pound women to try and hold a firehouse, and they blast off like a rocket ship because they get launched in the air from the pressure.
Feminism went from equality of opportunity to equality of outcome.
And that's the issue here.
Look, if they can meet all the standards, cool, no problem.
The problem is that a significant amount of them cannot.
and we're watering down, you know, our military, our firefighters, our police forward to
these quotas. I was listening someone last night. I poured through Instagram last night,
Instagram clips. But one of the guys was saying that men get a large dopamine release from
solving problems. Women don't get that as far as he said, they don't get it. They get
oxytocin release from like interpersonal relationships. So that's, I think, why they're drawn to
nursing, why they're drawn to care, positions of care where guys want to go fix the problem,
put out the fire, put the wall up, and, you know, that's just general satisfaction.
We have evidence to back your theory.
If you look at like, you know, the majority of inventions and human progression, et cetera,
who's always been at the forefront of that?
It's always been men.
Man are deductive problem solvers where the explorers, we're the discoverers.
Women don't have the same proclivities to go out there and explore and innovate.
They just don't, it's not their biological imperative.
But for men, our ability to procreate, our ability to create children and have offspring is
contingent upon our productivity, which is why we're highly incentivized to go out there and be
productive.
and women have babies.
Exactly.
And they get offended by the idea, and that's the problem with modern feminism, that women are ashamed that they are, they have babies.
Yes.
Like, the women, these feminists will actually argue, like, you think women are only just having babies?
And it's like, principally, they are, yes.
And that's a very important thing because humans don't exist without that.
And like, guys, why do you want to come into the men's space and argue with a bunch of guys anyway?
I don't get it.
So one thing that's interesting, whenever I have like a panel show and I have like a girl that's like maybe a stay-at-home mom
she's in like a loving relationship, whatever, she kind of prioritizes motherhood and being
a wife or a girlfriend. And we have other girls that might be a bit more feminist or chasing a
career. They'll shame her for not pursuing a career and having money and whatever like what, so
you're just a bum, you hang out all day. And it's like we've completely flipped it where for women,
the metric of success is like the masculine burner performance versus like for women.
Versus, you know, these feminist women are just shaming these women for being moms, which is like
what I think is the best thing they should be doing. But it's a tough job. Maybe the best job
on the plan. It's a thankless job. I still harassed my mom. I still harassed my
mother. I called her today. Like 47 years later, I'm still calling the woman and asking for her advice.
And I'll say this too. Because you mentioned like the oxytocin release, right, from like, you know,
figuring things out and deductive problem solving. I think that's a big reason why men get hurt
by relationships ending more because for a lot of guys, that might be brilliant, high IQ, et cetera.
One of the few things they can't conquer is like understanding female psychology. So a lot of guys
after a bad breakup, they thought they did everything right. They did what they were told was right.
And then after the breakup, they're like, I can't figure this out. And this is what leads guys to,
you know, self-deletion.
breeds obsession.
Exactly.
Because they're like,
I figured everything else out,
why can't I figure out women?
And the things we've been told
about women is completely counterproductive
to what they're actually arous by.
Never listen to a woman tell you what she wants
and think that she's telling the truth.
This is what I'm...
She doesn't have any idea.
Let me ask you guys here.
I disagree.
No idea.
They do, but they're not going to tell you.
Exactly.
So women are not here right now.
So I'll ask you guys as men,
what you think.
I think that if a guy changes his feelings change about something,
he'll tell you.
He'll be like, I don't feel that thing I used to anymore.
Now I feel this new thing.
And you'll be like,
the way you're saying it, that that's true. Whereas a woman, she just starts acting different.
And you're like, I better, if I'm not like paying attention, she's not going to tell me.
There's a cartoon meme that was on the front page of Reddit. And it was like a woman with like a book
standing. It was like, it was like animation. And the guy walks up and you was like, he was like,
hey there, I just saw you over here, thought you looked interesting and wanted to introduce myself.
My name's John, just wondering if you had any interest in never hanging out. And she goes,
no, no, thank you. And he goes, have a good date. And he turns on.
to walk off and she goes, is that it? You're just going to leave? And he goes, you said no. I'm going to
play video games. It's not what I said. It's how I said it. Couldn't you read between the lines? The
point is the reason why this video went viral is because it is a trope accepted by men and women.
That women will say, oh no, I'm not interested because they want the guy to show interest.
It's a test. And then you get this weird mix where obviously there are times where women really
don't want a guy to do something. So they say no. But the problem then becomes a meme emerges.
where there are women who are saying actually no doesn't mean no.
And then guys are like, I ain't getting anywhere near that statement.
Right.
I think that comes evolutionarily from a woman that wants a guy that can read between the lines.
Like, you're going to get a lot of shit tossed at you in the world, Ian, or whoever you are.
Get ready to read through the crap.
So if I'm telling you know in a situation, but you can tell my body language is telling you yes.
You're supposed to somehow know that.
Well, I think the reason why women do this is they want to feel wanted.
And I think it's also part of evolutionary psychology.
where if you think about it from, you know, go back 10,000 years, if a woman said yes to any guy
who walked up, she's getting low value males.
She's trying to sort out.
You can't see a guy.
Like a guy walks up, maybe he's physically fit.
That's points.
But you can't see if he's smart and capable.
So women will push back and test the man to see if he's actually valuable.
That's why social proof is so important for them.
And then the other thing I will say, right?
And feminists will get mad at me for saying this.
But like if women were honest about, you know, their interests when it comes to arousal and
romance, they would say, yeah, don't call me back. Don't pedestalize me. Always be the leader.
Always make the decisions. I'm inept. I don't know what I want to eat. I'm an indecisive.
Like if women were actually honest about how they behave, no one would take them seriously.
So they have a vested interest in lying to you, right, and selling a certain side of them that is
more socially acceptable, more appealable. Like one thing about women, right, that's interesting
because some guy was like, well, Myron, how can you give a voice when like you're like an
asshole, whatever, you're not like a nice guy. And I'm like, look, dude, what women say they want
versus what they respond to are two different things.
And I like to use the example of hybrisophilia.
Women overwhelmingly prefer bad boys, criminals, degenerates, etc.
You look at like a Ted Bundy, a Richard Ramirez,
Luigi Mangione in modern times.
Why are women showing up to these guys' trials and droves?
These guys are like, you know, some of the most deplorable human beings.
It's because women have a fascination with men that go against a grain
and just kind of get it in some way.
So women are never going to be honest about their sexual proclivities
because it would make them look crazy.
So that's why they have to say,
I want flowers in a gentleman.
I think, uh,
but they'll respond to that favorably.
Luigi Mangione,
uh,
and like these murderers,
the idea is they'll kill for you.
They'll kill everybody else but you.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like if you,
if you're living in the wilderness and there's bears and bad people around and you're
a woman,
you're like,
I want my man to just massacre anybody who threatens me.
You need to be capable of violence.
And obviously these murderers are like embodying that obviously illegally.
But it's,
it's very important that like,
you know,
the things that women are aroused by and attracted to are like just not politically
correct, so they can't be honest about that.
Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
Porn obsessed Hassan Piker
goes on shocking, homophobic rant
after Scott Wiener wins
SF congressional primary.
So I guess Scott Wiener won Pelosi's seat.
She's retiring, and he's really angry.
Pittsburgh and Philly are far more progressive
than San Fran in L.A. Yeah.
Yeah. You know what it is?
I know what it is.
Fucking car-reliant infrastructure.
The more cars you have, the more shutting the fucking city is.
That's it.
No public transit.
Scott Wiener wins.
No fucking people living close to one another.
No close quarters to one another.
No public transit at all.
Massive wealth disparity.
That's got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
It's just fucking rich liberals who just want homo-fascism in the country.
That's it.
They want gay fascism.
They want gay techno-fascism.
So I guess what happened is that every,
buddy he endorsed that went on his stream lost. Yeah. So he like Trump, I guess just lost. What was it?
No. Was it Utah or Iowa? One of his endorsements lost. Yeah. Was it, uh, was it Iowa?
I think when it was, but there was. And so that's like Trump's just for lost one endorsement,
but he's like swept everyone else. Hassan's just lost every everyone he's backed has just lost.
And so he's really pissed off. But of course, there is a lot, uh, coming out about Scott Weiner winning
in Pelosi's district. Because people have questions about.
that guy. I'll say it like that. Mr. Weiner?
Yeah. Mr. Peter. He's
pretty creepy. There's a lot of photos of him at gay
pride parades just dressed up like, you know,
the people that go to gay pride parades.
And, uh, and what?
Like, Hassan backed the other candidate, so he's pissed off?
I don't know. I mean, he's not, he's not wrong, though.
Weiner's a pretty progressive guy.
Well, look, San Francisco is the city where they,
they allow men to blow each other in public legally.
Yeah.
It is, it is, you didn't know this?
Where?
In L.A.?
San Francisco.
San Fran?
Okay.
Yeah, and San Fran, like two dudes could go at it right in public and middle of street and
that's allowed.
You didn't know that?
No, there's like no type of like indecency, ludicivate.
They don't have any voyeurism?
None of these laws?
Bro, come on.
You know how, you know how law works.
Of course, but like, if a city is entirely gay, yeah, the cop is probably gay too.
Oh, they just don't want to enforce it.
Okay.
Yeah, but hold on.
But like, in West Virginia, men and women aren't allowed to live together.
Okay.
It's the same thing.
Yeah.
In West Virginia, the law says man and women cannot cohabitate.
Everybody does.
Yeah.
But you have to be married in order to cohabitate.
But there's tons of people living with their boyfriends or girlfriends in West Virginia.
So like the laws on the books is what you're saying is that they just don't enforce in San Francisco.
But I want to clarify that because it makes it sound like it's unique.
It is the fundamental principle of law in every city, every county and every state in this country, that there are laws in the books the police do not enforce.
Of course.
Because the community does not want it enforced.
So to stress, cohabit.
is illegal in many states.
But like any cop is going to arrest you for checking.
Your girlfriend.
That's the point.
Being gay, like having sex in public is so normalized in San Francisco, the cops won't
arrest you for it.
And I'm not going to show the video, but there's video of this.
And somebody walks with the cops and they're like, there's two guys going at it right
now.
And the cops are like, what do you want us to do about it?
There's like, in Texas, they still have like, you know, cow tipping laws and stuff
like that.
So like, yeah, there's insane laws.
It's not real.
Well, Texas Rangers.
So it used to be, so the Texas.
We make this joke all the time, right?
Like the Texas Rangers were pretty much kind of formulated.
One of the reasons they were formulated was like for cattle theft.
And it used to be like a capital offense way back in a day and like the still on the books.
But like, you know, it's kind of like a ceremonial thing.
Like do they still enforce it in that way?
No.
But like they get mad when you talk about this, by the way, with the Texas Rangers.
It is, I do like the cow tipping thing because people believe it.
Like how do you think you're going to knock over a 1,500 pound outkick?
I don't know.
And the funny thing is like, cattle theft.
It's obvious, cattle theft for sure.
Yeah.
But that still is on the books.
There's cattle.
No, it is.
No, it is.
It is on books.
The funny thing is, you know, because we, I've lived around cows for a long time.
Obviously, there's a lot of people who lived around cows longer than me.
But like, cows just, you know, lay down.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're not tipping them over.
They're on the ground.
That's so sad to see a cow get knocked on.
People think that cows sleep standing up for some reason.
I don't get it.
The joke, like, for all Texas law enforcement is like, you know, when you work with the
Rangers, like, you make a joke about like, hey, you guys were created because of cows.
so like it pissed them off.
So it's like that's like the running joke
in the law enforcement community in Texas.
They were made like a cattle police first.
Like that was like the main
because there's such a big deal back in the day.
Like your cow was your livelihood.
So it's like, yeah.
But they get pissed and it was the food for the city.
Yeah.
So you know, you go back in the day
and there's a cattle rancher with a couple thousand heads
and the city nearby is like
if something happens that, we die.
We die in winter.
So if you messed with them,
if you were a cattle poacher or something,
everybody's coming for you
because it's not just about the business owner.
It's about, are we going to survive the winter?
Of course thieves, too.
They would kill them on.
They have a rich history.
You can't be a ranger unless you know you were born in Texas.
Like, they have like all this like, you know, ceremonial stuff.
Isn't Scott Weirner the dude who wanted, like he wanted to pass that law where you could kidnap kids to trans them?
Yes.
What's the Iowa guy lost Republican, Randy.
That was.
Yeah, to what's the guy's name?
I didn't get the other guy.
But anyway, but.
But Wiener, what were you saying?
These West Coast states, Oregon, Washington, California are past.
these laws where you can kid
kid and trans them against the wishes of the parent
and the state will protect the home.
I'm saying, dude.
And Hassan, I mean, I do think it's funny that Hassan is pissed about it.
And I'm going to give it to him.
I'm not going to rag on Hassan.
He's mad at Weiner, who's a creepo.
And, you know, at the end of the day,
if we can align at least against petos and creepos.
No, no, no, no.
I don't think, I don't think, I don't think Hassan is against Weiner because of
those things. Hassan may be against Wiener because
the other candidate is more progressive
or there's somebody preferred. But I don't
imagine that the other candidate would be like, no,
you can't trans the kids or whatever. Like
it's just a matter of Hassan wanted
more progressive. Or if I
would assume that. Yeah, no, I
agree. I think it's funny that he's
going on what's being called a shocking, homophobic
rant, even though
like, you're right,
the other candidate probably is largely going to agree
anyway. And if they got in,
they'd be like, yeah, you can have gay sex in public.
whatever. I've talked about Hassan much lately, but I really believe he has been a lirping communist
and it caught up to him. Like he's been pretending to be, he doesn't really truly know what that
means if you if you tried to do a communist revolution, like the way that.
He lives in a $5 million man. He identifies as a democratic socialist. Him and Kyle Kalinsky
both identifies that. Yeah. And then Kyle Kalinsky just went nuts. At least Hassan has maintained
a level of like as bad as he is. He's been as bad as
he is. Kyle Kalinsky is like
I don't know. He had an emboism
pop in his brain that just like
fried his frontal lobe. A son had a wake-up
call last week or a couple weeks ago when the government started
investigating where they announced they were going to investigate him
and now he's been banned from the UK.
Like I think he's realizing like don't play
games on the internet. Like don't
mess with people about communism bro,
especially about communism. He's not, I don't
think he's learned anything. He looks at
himself as a victim
and he is going
to use this to, you know,
finesse people out of their money because he's going to be like, oh, I'm the victim here.
The government's coming after me because they don't like what I have to say.
And it's because of Israel and blah, blah, blah.
He's going to use that as much as he possibly can.
He, like, he immediately started naming names right after they investigate him.
He's like, he named the guy in China who's funding it.
That's because he's stupid.
He's like a canary.
Like, look, it's a game to me, you guys.
This is the real money.
This is the guy who's been pulling all the strings.
I don't think it's a game too.
I mean, he went to China.
He went to Cuba.
I think that he really does have an affinity for communist dictatorships.
He really does believe the things that he says.
And he really hates America.
That is so weird.
I've watched a lot.
He made so much money in this country.
Yeah.
Working with his cousin at the Young Turks.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
It's interesting because, like, they're getting a taste of what it's like to be a conservative.
It's like they got banned from the UK.
And it's like, you know, oh my God, what's going on here?
And it's like, yeah, welcome to being a conservative commentator, bro.
Two weeks before he got banned, they banned 11 of Tommy Robinson's friends and fans.
So dude, it's crazy because like they can operate on TikTok with impunity
Instagram etc like I can't have a TikTok I know you've had issues with them as well
Like you know they never deal with censorship ever
So it's like they get banned like what's going on here and it's like it's funny because it's like that you know
Progressive ideology of like pro censorship is exactly what got him in trouble with the UK
It was a Labor Party which is their functional equivalent of the Democrats and you know the J lobby I know we're on YouTube that you know
We're instrumental in keeping him and check out but it is that leftist ideology I don't think that's true at all
They put those articles on it, that it was the Labor Party and the J Lobby.
But they, two weeks before, they banned pro-Israel a handful of pro-Israel people from coming
the country too.
Who?
Tommy Robinson is massively pro-Israel, was bringing in a bunch of people for his rally,
and they banned him as well.
Yeah, but they're going to, yes, that is true, but he also.
The issue is, are you going to cause problems for the established order?
So that includes Israel for sure, but that's not the principal reason.
It's like, Hassan is a disruptive figure, and so is Jenk, and they're like, no,
We want control.
What did Shank do?
Same thing.
Just talked crap about.
Israel is a component of this.
I'm not saying it's not the case,
but they're an offense to established order is like the way I describe it.
So for them,
it likely is the issue of Israel.
But the principal issue is the UK is banning people they feel
could disrupt their control systems.
Right?
So that includes Tommy Robinson's people.
They ban yay too.
Yeah, that's right.
They ban him as well for the same thing.
Didn't they ban some other rapper?
over pro-Palestine rapping? What was it?
No. I know who you're talking about. He's
British, so he was good. But like, I know who you're
talking about. They canceled his tour in America. No, he got banned
from the U.S. Yeah, he got, yeah. They canceled his tour.
Yeah, I know the guy with the, with the dreads.
Yeah, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it's the,
lobbyed hard. No, what? What? You just mentioned the
random. There's a gun. There's, there's, there's, there's more black people
with dreads than the one white Jewish Scottish goddessiahs.
But the, but the bottom line is like, it's, you know, it's this lack of, you know,
freedom of speech that the left practices all the time
that came back to bite them in the ass
because it's like you know
son has been pro-censorship for a very long time
now he's getting a taste of his own medicine
he always like when someone gets banned on Twitch
that's like a right winger like yeah get him out of here
blah blah it's like okay he was never speaking up for you
he wasn't speaking up for Fuentes he wasn't speaking up for Lauren Southern
when she got banned he didn't speak up for the
Christina Gomez I think is her name
the Valentina Gomez yeah Valentina Gomez
he didn't speak up for her when she was banned
from the UK no one should feel bad for him
No one should speak up in defense of him.
The UK doesn't have a First Amendment.
They can do whatever they want so Hassan can sit there and just cry.
They have an unwritten, they have a spoken constitution, an unwritten constitution, and free speech is a principle of it.
And I would argue that we are lying to ourselves about the U.S. Constitution being, you know, well, I'll say, I'll go halfway with this.
Obviously, there is something better in a written constitution.
That's why the founding fathers had this.
debate and I believe it was the anti-federalists were like they're we have to write it down.
But to be honest, like writing it down means very little.
It's like you said earlier, the cops will only enforce a law in the city if they agree
with the law in the city or if the people in the city agree with it.
So the constitution is a guideline, but if the cops and the populace doesn't want it,
it's not about the cops agreeing with it.
It's about whether the cops feel like the public wants it to happen.
Yeah.
So for instance, we have the First Amendment in this country, right?
But we're lying to ourselves to think there's any real protection of free speech.
and I think you could make the argument on censorship and, you know, the J Lobby or APEC or whatever,
but we can easily just mention Cuomo shutting churches down in New York during COVID, or just COVID in general.
The moment they decided to snap their fingers and tell you had no rights, nothing happened other than your rights were taken from it.
I think that that's a 21st century development, and I understand that you're going to make the argument about when the founders first had blasphemy laws and stuff.
But when the Skokie, Illinois topic came up in the 60s, whether or not the Nazis could be.
March in Skokie, Illinois. That was kind of like the standard for from 1965 or whatever
until basically the turn of the century. But no, it wasn't. George Carlin got arrested in the
70s for swearing. Well, okay. That's right. And I think wasn't like, didn't Lenny Bruce as well?
I don't know. Public obscenity laws were in effect. Yeah. Like it wasn't until the 90s.
Even in the 90s you did not have free free speech. The public airw waves have been restricted since their
inception with the government regulating your right to say words.
Yeah, this, this, this, we're offensive.
This speaks to an idea that, or my conception of freedom of speech.
When it comes to freedom of speech, you can basically articulate any argument that you
want to make so long as you don't do it in a way that's intended to offend people.
If you're delicate about the way you say things like, whether it be Israel or whoever else
or whatever else, you can kind of get away with it.
It's when you say things that are intentionally vulgar, intentionally trying to
incite people.
you know, upset people, target.
Are you saying that's the way it should be?
I'm saying that that's generally the way that it is.
Obviously, it's an...
I don't think so. I don't think that's ever been the case.
You don't think articulating ideas...
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't think that's everything is.
Yeah, I think you can kind of...
I think that, you know, in the early 2010s,
people were getting censored from social media
for posting crime statistics.
That's why I said up until, you know, up until the turn of the century.
In text, it's hard to do it.
Well, are we talking like First Amendment?
We're talking like policies with...
I still think it's fair to say.
like even in the 2000s, if you wanted to hold a rally highlighting crime stats of the black
community, you'd be rejected.
Like I said, that was after the turn of the century.
So after 2000 is when kind of the woke people started to focus on, you know, you can say this,
you can not share this idea.
But prior to that, if you were delicate about sharing ideas, you're talking about ideas.
You're making arguments for a narrow determination on what speech is allowed.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
I think that.
And I think in turn then, we have.
agree there has never been true free speech in this country. Again, if you want to articulate it like
that, that's fine, then yes, I would agree with you. But I think the idea that the idea,
where the concept of free speech is more importantly about sharing an idea that is, that is controversial,
as opposed to the way that you're saying. And I understand what you're saying. And I agree.
That's not perfect. I think we got the best system, but like, it's not perfect. I would argue this.
Free speech absolutum is a, do you think, do you think that in like, in 1995, if you wanted to rent
the, like, I got a permit for the national mall for a Nambla rally, they would have
permitted it?
I don't believe they would.
I don't know. I don't know.
I'm probably not.
They would have found some reason to say, no, you can't do this.
Ultimately, the point is it's pretty fascinating to think.
We talk about free speech in this country in the 90s.
The FCC, a federal regulator, which was created through an act of Congress and the executive
branch, enforced law against people from speaking certain obscene words.
Showing things.
There was butt crack on NYPD.
Well, that's different.
It was the first time butt crack was ever shown on, like, network.
Indeed, if you want to make an argument about images, there's a different argument
there because speech, one could argue about images.
Right.
The point is they literally would criminal, like you would get fined for saying a naughty word.
So where we are at now with the progressives, they think certain naughty words should not be allowed
in the public space on social media, and they're carrying on the tradition of political power,
shutting down what is viewed to be obscene that has existed in this country since its inception.
I like Phil's take.
I like it that you're saying it's about the intention, because I'll bring.
up some pretty racy topics and even say words where you're like, how did he get away with that?
Because the way I'm saying it is with true intention of learning and helping.
To Tim's point about the, you know, whether or not you have a Nambla rally, probably not,
but you couldn't, you weren't going to go to jail for saying, look, I'm going to make the
argument that it's not about jail. It's about whether or not you, like whether or not the government
will act to restrict you in some way over your words, be it a calmly articulated opinion on
news and politics or a vulgar and obscene tirade with slurs and insults.
I think the vulgar and obscene stuff is far more likely to get the attention of the state
than a reasoned measure. Look at the satanic panic. They censored board games. Magic at the
gathering famously, I've got one of the cards behind me. It's called Unholy Strength. The man is a
pentagram. And because it was a tipper gore, they forced Hasbro to remove a depiction of what is meant
to show evil.
after 2000? No. No, that was 1993. It was early. It was in 14th. In 1993, we were still
dealing with satanic panic. And so you had elements of the government say, we cannot allow this.
And it wasn't Hazp at the time, I think. It was, you know, it was probably Wizards, right?
Wizards the Coast. They had to remove because of the backlash. So when, this is the important
thing about what enforcement means. Didn't try to fight it? What can you fight? They did. They did.
Let me put it this way. It happened pretty quick.
If, if, let's say like, I mean, maybe you're a little bit different, but for the average person who is selling, let's just say, you've opened a flavored honey shop in New York City and you've got a bunch of suppliers of various honeies from around the world.
That's all you know, you're not political.
All of a sudden, some high-ranking dude in the federal government just says, I hate you.
I don't care why I hate you.
I just do.
I am going to destroy your life.
You're like, bro, oh my God.
It doesn't matter.
Sounds like me.
It doesn't matter if there's a law on the book.
What matters is that this person in government, he says, I'm going to go to Congress, and we're going to get a subpoena against you.
And no matter what you say, you're going to prison for perjury.
That's the power of government law.
This is the important thing that, like the whole crux of this conversation and the point to be understood as it pertains to Hassan Piker.
I'm for censorship.
I've always been for censorship.
What I disagree with is silencing someone's ability to express a legitimate political worldview.
So censorship is like child abuse material, murder, crime.
Like, we want people behind the scenes on social media to be removing that stuff because it should not be allowed.
But this acknowledges there is a limit that people are willing to accept in what we're allowed to say.
Someone might say, I think it should be the right of every American to show graphic depictions of gore and violence on these tech platforms because this is a natural part of the world and we shouldn't hide from it.
In fact, there's probably some dudes who are like, we're a bunch of pansies.
People, kids used to grow up seeing murder and mayhem and animals mauling each other and we've
removed it.
I think we should be allowed to show it.
And so they hold up a big sign saying gore is not, you know, should not be censored.
I think it should be.
I'm like, I don't think you should be going on public showing children depictions of like
serious murder, death, conflict war, that kind of stuff.
I think it should be allowed, you know, on social media spaces, but there are.
There's a line where I'm like, not with kids.
Educational, historical.
Yeah, not in front of kids.
Not in front of kids.
So out in public marching on the sign, I'm not okay with that.
And the question ultimately becomes, are you willing to use power to enforce your moral
worldview?
And it comes down to this.
In West Virginia, cohabitation, illegal.
No one's going to enforce against it because the truth is no one cares.
Is common law marriage here, I think, or no?
I don't, I, common law, I think is a federal thing for the most part where you can choose.
to file jointly. I don't think it's anything
like I don't think they can file. I know some states if you live together
for long enough, they consider it common law.
But I think all that means is that you can
file a joint claim. Oh yeah,
for the purpose of the... That's what I meant. That's why I was asking.
So here's the, here's the thing
though. No
modern Americans' morality is offended
by the idea of a man and woman deciding to move
in together. Yeah. It's just not.
Some people, yes,
but not enough to where the police feel like it's going to be an issue.
However,
where it's interesting. Most
Americans oppose drag shows for and with children.
The issue is the average American is terrified of far left terror and extremism, so they
shut their mouths and let it happen. The right has been unwilling to operate in the way
the left has operated. The only mainstream major political violence we've seen in the past
10 years, and the right is January 6th. For the left, there's over 475 different instances,
incidents, where mainstream left, I'm not talking about fringe extremists, I'm talking about
when you take the liberal Democrat manifesto and the conservative Republican manifesto,
apply that and then ask, based on these worldviews, who commits violence?
Republicans won Democrats 475 plus.
Yeah, I was literally having a discussion on this.
I've always said that progressives are far more likely to go out, demonstrate protest,
get out there, you know what I mean, actually like, you know, put some muscle behind
their belief system.
And a part of, you know, progressive, it's literally in the name.
They want to progress.
A lot of times for them, they look at violence as a viable option to progress versus
conservatives are trying to conserve what we already have.
So progressives, it's in the name.
Like, they're totally okay with violence.
And like anyone, someone made some argument like, oh, actually conservatives are more violent.
We looked at the ADL and I'm like, dude, the ADL will go ahead and look at like two white
dudes fighting in a prison and consider that conservative violence.
They literally had the stats.
I think it was Cato.
A white supremacist who punched his wife was listed as white supremacist's violence.
Yes. They literally use anything, dude.
They literally, two white dudes can find a prison and use it.
But my argument for that, maybe I'll appear on Jubilee and this will come up.
My argument on that is, I, conservatives don't know how to have a conversation because everything
exists in the liberal framework. So when someone says something to me like, you know,
when you, like the right is more responsible for violence, my response is that, my response
that. I laugh when they say that. Well, it, that's fine, but what does right mean? So is it meaningful
to the American voter to,
include, I don't know, like the 10,000 clan members or white supremacist that is in this country
with the mainstream Republican Party? And they can argue, yes, but I'll say, listen, Charlie Kirk
kicked these people out of his events. He censored them. He agreed with you in that regard.
So when you're talking about the right engaging in violence, and I don't care what your
criteria, like the extent of violence might be, like a white supremacist is punching his wife,
that's fine. Put it on the list. That has no bearing on the Republican Party because the Republican
Party already condemned white supremacy. So it's not meaningful to me in any way to include
fringe leftist or right wing elements. If there is a tankie wearing, you know, like Rev.com,
you know Rev.com. Revolutionary Communist Party. Okay. They wear boots and uniforms and they actually
goostep in march at protests. Now, as far as I know, they don't engage in any extreme violence.
But my point is-offort of Antifa, or some kind of-
No, they're unrelated. Okay. They are like a fringe weirdo elements on the left and they organize.
Now, if this guy punches his wife and you put on the list saying a revolutionary communist engaged in an act of violence, I would respond the exact same way.
What that man does has no bearing on what the Democratic Party says they want or their ideologies.
Now, here's the thing.
When you take a look at the motivations of the Democratic Party and their candidates, we see lots of violence.
We see them saying Elon Musk is bad, the billionaires are bad, and what happens?
they go and shoot up Tesla facilities.
They say trans people are being genocided.
What happens?
A bunch of trans people go and shoot up schools.
On the right, they say Donald Trump was unlawfully arrested.
Our borders are being opened.
Not one instance of a Republican motivated by illegal immigration going to the border and trying
to stop people from entering this country.
I think that a lot of right-wing violence is unseen, you might call it, like the banality of violence
because it's like 136 school children in Iran getting killed both of drones.
How was that right-wing violence?
That's the military.
Hillary Clinton advocated for it the same.
She's a Democrat.
Well, she's pretty hardcore.
I should say, what would you call it, the established order, which happens to be right-wing.
It has nothing to do with the manifestos, the espoused ideology of the Republican versus Democratic parties.
It is not meaningful to an American voter when trying to decide which party to vote for to say that there's a neo-conservative, neoliberal establishment that wants war.
Well, the conservative.
They'll all say we disagree.
conservative would be like, look, close the borders and let everyone outside starve. I don't care
about them. They're not my problem. And you, and the numbers on left, we're like, that's violence.
That's the passive banality of violence I brought up when you're letting people die.
That's supposed to actively hurting that. Okay. Let's go back to the conversation we are actually having
about people motivated by an ideology to kill others. Okay. There's a big difference between saying,
unfortunately, somewhere around the world, people are dying, and Democrats saying, I'm going to get a gun and go shoot someone.
I mean, it's acceptable. You could argue it's not violence at all.
letting other people die.
The definition of violence
is an intentional act
to cause damage to a person
or a piece of property.
When you corral people in an area
or when you take their food supply away,
you're starving them at their dying.
War is violence.
Agreed. Both Democrats and Republicans
agree with war and we're all mad about it.
You're doing the same thing
that Democrats do all the time.
They say that basically change
the definition of a word
to make it favor of your argument.
And violence is an actual thing
with a specific definition
when you say,
oh, we're not going to continue
to send you food aid.
That's not violence.
Well, the CIA calls it violence.
I don't care with the CIA.
I don't care with the CIA.
No, pull up the dictionary definition of the word violence.
Going back to the whole thing with, you know, the left violence or whatever.
You know, you look at like BLM, right, after the George Floyd incident, right?
They can burn down Minneapolis.
And did we see the same level of, you know, police presence and investigation on an unprecedented scale like January 6?
No.
And I would say, like, for conservatives, the reason why, there's two main reasons why, like, conservatives
are not as active politically from like a physical sense.
Number one, a lot of them have jobs, have families.
You know, they don't want to necessarily lose their.
their jobs. They have things to do, a lot to lose. They tend to be a little bit older, more mature.
And the other reason is because right-wing groups have almost always been infiltrated by law
enforcement at a significantly higher level than the left. You look at Antifa, BLM, etc. They've
been able to operate with almost impunity. Look at the ice raids. You know, they're out there
in New Jersey, New York. They're intentional law enforcement. Yeah. So it's like, you know,
they've been able to operate with a significant level of impunity compared to the right wing. And then
again, I think it's almost etched into their ideology because in order for us to progress,
we must do anything by any means necessary
and that means violence for them.
I mean, it's very, very simple.
Democrats say we need to shut,
right now you've got Baraka in Newarka
in Newarka trying to shut down the ice facility
and you have far leftists
attacking police horses and police engaging in violence
when Joe Biden was allowing millions
to illegally end of the country,
Republicans did not go out and riot
and attack cops or do anything like this.
The motivated, the stated ideologies
of,
each party, they are plainly visible.
Conservatives don't get violent over these ideologies.
There are fringe, wacko elements of nationalism that exist on the right.
Republicans condemn them.
On the left, they embrace them.
That's the point.
Well, it seems like there's a structure that the people, the conservative people want to
maintain that's destroying and raping the planet, you could argue, 40 trillion in debt.
You'd be wrong.
The people on the left want to break and destroy that structure.
The people on the right are like, we just need to maintain the structure.
we fight you, it all comes tumbling down, so we can't fight, but we, we know, I know that there's
okay, okay, can we just stop? This is what you're rolling. If you want to, if you have, if you have an
actual argument, make an argument, but I, I feel about what exactly? Like, the idea that Democrat
donors aren't billionaires who run big corporations is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
That's not what I said, though. Yeah, you said the Republicans want to maintain a system that
rape and pillages the earth. The Democrats want to stop. That's not true. I didn't say Republicans.
I said conservative people want to conserve the structure that they live within. The liberal, the people
want to change it will get more radically violent to affect change with it. And the changes they want to
bring about are the same as what the status quo is. It's just a different power structure.
Well, the people, the leftist revolutionary wants to break it. I've seen people like nihilists.
You are incorrect. The people, the conservative people want to maintain it.
Right. So let me clarify for you. The leftists want to control it. And the conservatives want to
live in America under the existing power structures. Well, they all want to control it.
Correct. I think, I think that the motivations of the left is built around destroying.
the traditional American system.
And the conservatives is maintaining a traditional American system.
Right.
So it's hard to fight against someone that wants to destroy.
Like, how do you destroy?
Like, if you get into a fight with your friend in your house
and throwing him into your wall and breaking your mirrors,
like who wins?
Nobody wins if you're destroying your own house.
Right.
So your analogy is that there are two friends in a house and one guy says,
this is my house.
Please, I don't want to fight.
And the other guy says, I'm going to bash you with a frying thing.
Pretty much.
Right.
And that's what the Democrats are doing.
And the Republicans don't get violent.
I don't know if it's a political party thing.
It's more about a leftism and rightism mentality.
It's not.
The whole point is that both political parties have what's called a manifesto.
They release these periodically where they explain the principal positions of the party.
Over time, we have seen the Democratic Party adopt fringe far-left elements,
including socialist and communist practitioners.
In fact, they've incorporated the Democratic Socialists into the umbrella of the Democratic Party.
From the ideologies espoused from the top down, from the political parties,
the Republican ideology of we want secure borders, we want our manufacturing back, we do not see violence.
On the left, we want trans kids, we want open borders, we see explicit violence to those ends.
That's the point I'm making.
Now, of course, there are violent right-wingers somewhere with some fringe ideology.
There are violent left-wingers out there with fringe ideology.
I don't care if Revcom punches his wife, and I don't care if a white supremacist punches his wife.
If you want to call either of those political violence,
there's no bearing on what that means
for the structure of institutional governance.
You understand what I'm trying to explain is like,
if you had an opportunity, you're like, listen, you two,
stop fighting, both of you, stop fighting.
Or I'm taking your food away.
And the people are like, what?
And you're like, okay, I'm taking your food away now.
And then they start, who is?
If this is the thing, you have two guys in a cage
and you're feeding them, you decide one day,
I'm going to take your food.
And then they start smashing the walls of the cage.
You can see how taking their food away is a violent.
act. That is incorrect. Well, violence is defined as an intentional action to cause damage to a person or
property. Physical force exert it for the purpose of causing damage or injury. So if you take someone's
food, that's a forceful act of causing injury. I think you're stretching the definition.
But it's real. It's real. That's what they think is going on in Gaza. I mean, that's what they think
the Israelis are doing to the Gaza. Okay, Ian, the Democrats and Republicans agree on war and agree on
supporting Israel. A bunch of pro-Israel candidates just won their primaries in Illinois. We've
We've covered this.
There is no distinction in the political party.
Would you agree that political party-wise at the top,
there's no distinction between their support for Israel?
Yeah, no, it's that they unequit, both sides support this.
And we are not seeing in the American streets.
Democrats are trying to slow it down a little bit, but they're still.
Well, that's the progressive element.
Yes, yes.
Incorporated in it that is.
Like the Merriam of Donis and stuff like that,
which I do predict that like that's going to be the new strategy for the left,
but basically in general, Democrats and Republicans both.
Yeah, love Israel.
Yeah.
The point is both political parties at the top will say something like Israel is our greatest ally.
Yep.
Yeah.
Pass with like 90% support.
I did that's what I did elaborate that it's not, I'm not talking about Republicans, Democrats as much.
You might be.
I'm talking about leftism and rightism.
The way that you're willing to use it to, I mean, you could argue that far left is we use a military machine, but they're more likely to break their own machine.
Was Che Guevara a peace-loving hippie?
No, he was a brutal murderer.
And people like Hassan Piker, they love them.
They've called for more violence than anyone on the right.
Him and now.
They're not saying you're violent.
Hassan is a multi-millionaire.
He lives in a mansion in California.
He wears luxury designer clothes and chains as he goes to Cuba to talk about the plight
of the poor communist victims.
These people are not interested in fighting for justice.
They're fighting for more money and power for themselves.
The flip side is the dude sitting back smoking a cigar laughing about what's happening on TV
as kids are getting blown up by their own tax dollars.
I kind of see both your perspectives here.
My thing is I think what we're kind of saying is like within the left, you know, violence is a bit more caked into the ideology because to progress, you inevitably have to like change things and to change things.
Violence might be a variable that's needed versus on the right wing, right?
You're there to conserve what you what you have.
I just think that the right is composed of a, it's, you know, Curtis Jarvin said it the best that Republicans treat power like a wine snob, it treats alcohol and Democrats treat power like an alcoholic.
treats alcohol. Or yeah. Right. So Republicans say, well, you know, I, I find that to be just so appalling. I'm going to make a phone call. And Democrats are like, I'm going to throw a Maltov cocktail at your house.
You think Obama was like the last conservative Democrat? I think Obama was the, the, I think George W. Bush was the last American president.
Well, technically Trump is because he wrestled the power back. But Barack Obama represented the like a spike in the back of the, the, like a spike in the back of the,
of America as a country in terms of its traditions and values.
Like it wasn't like that for the first seven months.
Like Obama to me represents a fundamental shift in this country
towards communism, like Marxism,
cultural Marxism, critical race theory.
I agree.
I've always said like Obama kind of started like a lot of the cultural war problems
were fighting now with gay marriage, you know, BLM, all the stuff.
Like he was the beginning of ushering that stuff.
Yeah, I mean, DACA is the greatest betrayal of this country
in a long time in my face.
opinions. And I want to be careful how I'm seeing the problems now. There's been many betrayals.
Don't be wrong. But the idea that the president could decree a law that allows non-citizens
to live here under some like under a decree. And then when Donald Trump said this is a, we,
we reject this. And Donald Trump signed an executive order ending DACA. The courts said he can't do
that, which is fake. If the president can create an executive order saying, do not enforce immigration law,
the next president can say, start enforcing the law again.
And the courts barred ICE from actually enforcing the law, which is, it makes no sense.
It's unconstitutional.
Well, I can tell you this, because I worked for the government both under Obama and under Trump.
And like, yeah, like under Obama.
But whenever there's a Democrat in office, they obviously really let their foot off the gas when it comes to immigration.
And they're almost like not interested in doing any type of interior enforcement.
And then people say, oh, well, you know what?
Obama actually deported more people.
Well, the reason for that is because more legal aliens come into the country attempt to come in,
therefore they're apprehended, and then they're immediately, and then they're deported.
That's where those deportation numbers come from.
But the real immigration enforcement is within the cities in the interior.
That's where the work really happens.
And that's what Trump was trying to do before, obviously, they stopped everything.
But yeah.
Let's, I want to talk about Chud the Builder, but I do want to talk about, we'll get that for sure because we got it.
We got an update on his bail.
I want to talk about this story first.
We got some TMZ.
Rep, Anna Paulina Luna reveals to Jacob Woss that she was a.
assaulted during the Capitol Hill protest.
This is shocking to me.
So what I first want to do is show you what Rep Luna said,
and then I'm going to show you the shocking assault video.
And I'm telling you, your jaw will hit the floor when you see what was done to this rep.
I'm questioning Senator Rubio on Code Pink, which is a foreign funded organization.
And I've been going after FAR, et cetera.
And so as I was leaving, they were asking questions.
I don't have an issue asking questions, but when you are berating me and trying to block me from being able to come vote,
it's an issue but I continued to answer them I was walking out of Rayburn and as we were trying to walk away from them I guess they didn't like what I'm saying so one of the lead organizers actually smacked me and so at that point I broke contact can you like reenact how you were hit if just I was literally walking trying to walk away from this person and they smacked me in what part of the body they smacked my arm smacked are you injured right now I mean look either which way you don't touch anyone especially if you don't want
like what they're saying. She was, she was smacked. She was smacked. It is shocking. And we have the
explosive, explosive video right here showing the actual assault, my friends, when you see this,
when you see this, my God.
The government can get money to keep the hospitals going.
To actually get aid to the people to people because it doesn't sound like you know.
No, because Marka Rubio has been sanctioning the Cuban people, which is hurting them by the
billions.
The government.
By the billion.
No, that hurts the people there.
have no power.
You are misinformed.
You are misinformed.
Well, okay.
Oh, it was like, I'm sorry.
It doesn't matter.
You just touched me.
You're gonna walk away right now.
Also, I'm gonna call Capulco.
Oh, so don't touch me.
I don't walk away.
Bye, bye.
That's Medea Benjamin.
You go, wait, wait.
Bam!
She knows.
My God, did you see that?
Did you see that?
Can we get that again?
Look at this.
That crushing blow from, is that maybe Medea Benjamin?
Yeah.
I don't think it is.
Are you sure?
I think so.
She's like the founder of one of them.
Left wing violence.
My God.
This Antifa.
a terrorist communist,
nearly shattered the arm of Rep Luna.
She's lucky to have survived this encounter.
She was,
are you kidding me?
Dude, this is why I hate politics so much.
And, you know,
we're working on setting up like a DC studio
because we want to bring,
you know, members of Congress
and have conversations.
But are you kidding me?
Am I supposed to pretend
to support the Republican Party
over things like this?
Rep. Luna's like,
I was smacked.
No, you weren't.
She tapped your shoulder
to get your attention.
My God.
I hate politics.
I hate politicians.
They're all nuts.
She got PTSD from the strip club when they would smack her back then.
I guess, I guess.
Well, she doesn't like me anyway because I called her out when she tried to, when she introduced remote voting for Congress because she was like, women have babies therefore they don't have to come to work anymore.
And I'm just like, I'm so done with this, dude.
Hey, why are women voting?
Why are women voting?
I'm just kidding.
Why aren't they?
She was fighting all Democrats because like we said babies, therefore we should have to come into work.
And I'm like, then resign.
Yeah. This is insane.
Opening the door to remote voting, so she doesn't like me anyway.
But good. I mean, clearly she is a person of bad moral character.
I'm doubling. I think that is Medea Benjamin. I'm 100% positive. 99.99998. She's great. I've followed her work for 15, 20 years. She was very anti-war early on. I still think she probably complains about things that she doesn't have solutions for. So I'd like to debate her and get her head straight. If I can't, there she is again on the left.
Code Pink, Medea Benjamin.
Great. She'd be a great guest someday.
And what she did there was like what you would do with a friend while you're talking about
football or something.
You're like, bro, and then you tap him on their shoulder.
She obviously, and she knew immediately that legally she probably did step over.
This is, you know what I can't stand?
Like I'm watching these Jubilee debates, you know, like Dave Rubin just did one and it's gone
viral.
Yeah.
And I'm not going to say this of Dave because I don't watch the full thing.
I just watch clips.
But there are these conservatives that live in the world, in a tribal reality where it's like,
I must defend my side no matter what.
Democrats do this too.
Yeah.
And so you watch, I saw this video and I was like,
is she insane?
The woman tapped her arm to get her attention
because she was having a conversation with her
and then she said, don't touch me, I'll call the police.
And what's going to happen now?
They're going to use this.
They're going to go to young people and say,
look at what Republicans are doing.
They lie about violence.
They lie about the assault.
And what they're going to say is,
you know how Republicans are always claiming the left is violent?
Look at this video of Rep Luna.
This is what they claim violence is getting a tap on the arm.
And then people are going to be like,
wow, they're lying about everything.
It's a good, it's important combo because it is, it's not sustainable to reach out and touch politicians on the arm while you're walking with them.
If somebody gets 50 people in a course of seven minutes coming up and touching them, that's a big problem.
Sure, it doesn't.
It scales out of hand.
So I regret it that you're not supposed to do, but she could have said it in a better way than I got assaulted or attacked.
Smack.
She didn't say she put her hand on me and it wasn't cool.
You're not supposed to do that.
And she knew and she stood back.
So like, no drama.
She touched me.
that's it.
Medea knew she isn't supposed to be reaching out and touching politicians.
She's re-reclosed.
Are you joking?
I think she knows you're not really technically supposed to reach out and touch someone on Capitol Hill.
Yeah.
Like, there's a difference between touching someone with intent to cause harm and in the course of a conversation, tapping someone's shoulder.
If she intended harm, she'd be arrested right now.
But she'd-
For rep Luna to say she was smacked is a lie.
That elderly woman tapped her arm during a conversation.
I'm a steel man, Luna.
Maybe she was swinging her arm.
back kind of hard when when you saw the video
Benjamin tapped her just watched
the video smacky I couldn't tell because her clothing
was draping I'm not saying this happened
I'm just trying to see because her clothing was draping
so so like how are we supposed to
win a culture war with things like this
it's exhausting
and it does make you know it makes
Luna seem you know I have a solution
for Myron what is it no women allowed to hold office
anymore. Dude, I've been saying that.
Welcome to my world.
Repeal the 19, get them out of there. No more power for
them. Only men. Put them back in the kitchen.
This is all kitchen. Like,
the problem is, actually,
the problem is not women. The problem is not
women.
They're, like, there are some based women
for sure. The problem is we also have low-tee guys.
Yeah. And low-tie guys
are deferential in a lot of ways
and they lie. And also, you know.
They're almost worse, dude. My wife is so amazing.
that I want the world to know.
And so, like, Hillary, Bill really elevated Hillary Clinton to power.
Yeah, but that's because it's fake.
Bill and I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money.
Those people hate each other.
Billy and Hill.
Yeah.
Like, these, these couple, like, I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that, like,
Barack and Michelle don't like each other either.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Like, I would say, I wouldn't, I don't want to be too overtly biased.
I would just say that a lot of these relationships are orchestrated for political purposes.
Absolutely.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So one thing, I'll give a pass to.
Being married is huge for your political career.
Of course, like, Tim Scott got married, and everybody called it.
Everyone was like, he's gay, and he's like, I'm getting married because he wanted to be a VP.
Now, the thing about Trump is that he's been with Melania a lot longer than he was running for office.
And he was, he's doing, like, the reason Donald Trump married her is because she's a hot Eastern European model, you know what I mean?
Smart, too.
She knows a bunch of languages.
It's true.
She's very intelligent.
But not every marriage is for political purposes, but I think Bill and Hillary was.
I think so. They were both politically ambitious in college. I mean, they met in college.
And I think the issue was that Hillary knew she could not have executive power as a woman.
So she was like, we need to work together. You're going to run. And then that's why she got, she ran for Senate.
She got a state department job. And then she tried being president because it was her turn and Trump took it away from her.
There's a phenomenon where the guy gets obsessed with his wife, loves his wife, sees the power and his wife and wants to elevate the woman to a position of social authority.
But then she gets there and it's like, you're just, no offense, you're just a woman.
Like, you're just a guy.
That was substantially more brutal than anything Myron's head.
It's just a dude.
It's not about like sex or whatever.
You're just another random dude that happens to be female.
But hold on, I got to throw this in that because I'm imagining like Myron debating Kyla or something.
And you say something like, women do this and they behave this way and because of this, I think this.
And she'll be like, yes, women may behave this.
that way, but also women can do this,
and then Ian goes, you're just a woman.
Yeah, yeah.
And then we just saw the book,
this is why you guys deserve less, you know,
so it's just.
Like the insinuation from that statement
is a complete stripping of all.
Yeah.
Like, he's arguing key points, they're not good at,
you just flat.
Yeah, you're a female done.
What I mean, though, is I've been with girls
where I became so in love with them
that I wanted the world to see them,
but they weren't that great to the rest of the world.
Just to me.
We call that cucking.
Ha!
Did you guys see the Jerry O'Connell clip?
Which clip?
The Jerry O'Connell clip.
From Jamie Kennedy's show.
I didn't listen.
Bro, he's like...
He's like, let me see if I can get this one.
It was from...
I think I got it right here, actually.
Yeah, actually, I think this deserves his own segment.
So let me, let me, give me a little bit.
We'll wrap up this point.
Like, wrap up a point for...
That's pretty much it.
Sometimes inadvertently guys will put their woman
into positions of authority where,
because they love them so much,
but the rest of the world's like, why is it this chick?
I mean, I assume that's true,
but in the case of Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton,
I don't think that that was the case.
I think that Hillary Clinton had her own ambition.
She was an extremely ambitious woman or is.
So, yeah, I don't think it was just Bill being like,
let me show off my girlfriend.
Yeah, I think Bill, I mean, come on.
Like, Bill was probably banging a bunch of people on Epstein Island.
You know what I mean?
Like, he didn't care about Hillary.
Yeah, he was just like, I should want to hang women.
Stoner with a law degree.
Did you pull up that?
Yeah, Jerry O'clock.
Yeah, let's grab us.
We got this clip from Jamie Kennedy's show, which is taken off.
Like, what is this?
It's got millions, 2.2 million views.
Jerry O'Connell went on Bill Maher and said that his wife beats him whenever he says anything pro-Trump.
And so now he's being called a cuck.
And he makes some very vital mistakes in this interview.
He actually asks Jamie as a joke to come and bang his wife.
The problem is someone's going to clip it out of context where he's.
literally says please come, you know.
Well, you were scared to come on this pod.
Yeah, I was.
I said I wasn't going to do it because I said I'd never give up.
I said I was never doing podcasts again.
For those who don't know, I was on Bill Maher and I,
a couple things.
I talked about my family.
I didn't lip it.
I talked about my wife and I talked about their reactions politically.
You know, I shouldn't have done that.
What you did was you said that if you said something positive,
about Trumpy.
No, no, I never said that.
But you said something that you were gonna get beaten
and flogged.
I never said, I never said anything positive about Trump.
I never said that.
No, but you said if you said, well, he did one thing positive.
I said something, anyway, I'm gonna tell you what happened.
Tell me.
Um, MAGA, the, the, the force known as MAGA,
which is abbreviated for, make America great again.
Yes.
Um, really came after my wife and children in comments.
Really?
Yes.
Well, you said that they basically beat you up.
They did not.
I take that back.
I fully take that back.
I was making a joke.
Maga, they for some reason in my comments call me a, uh, uh, uh, F word cuck, okay?
Cuck.
An F word cuck.
Okay?
And you're not going to say the F word here.
I know you said the P word, but an F word cuck.
And I don't mean a fucking cuck.
I mean the other F word.
word. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Rimes with. Don't even say it. Okay. So that's what they call me. So let me just tell all the
Maga people who've been in my comments and my wife's comments. By the way, my wife never goes on social media.
She now gets like all these notifications from people saying your husband is an F word cock. You got the
hottest wife. How could that? They also like, call you an F. They love mentioning that I probably like to
watch my wife's ex having relationships.
with her.
By the way, Jamie, you've known me longer than anyone in Hollywood.
Did well.
Have you ever known me as someone who likes to watch,
would like to watch my wife having sex with another man?
No.
Do you think I would ever call you and say,
Jamie, would you come over and have sex with Rebecca Romaine
so I can sit in this chair in the corner and watch you guys have sex?
Do you think that would ever come out of my mouth?
No.
It just did.
And now I guarantee you people are going to clip that.
And it's just going to be him saying,
Jamie, would you come over to my house to bang Rebecca so I can sit in this chair and watch?
Wait, you never have.
Are you hearing me on this show say how attractive I find Skeet Ulrich?
Yes, you have.
Do you think I would ever call Skeet and say Skeet, do me a solid and come over and have sex with my wife's
wife's so I can watch you guys?
Debatable.
Would you say I'm an F-word cuck?
No.
So stop writing that in my comments and my wife's comments.
And by the way, my daughters are findable.
There's no way.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
I think his publicist said,
this is going to get you famous.
It's going to boost your cue reading.
Everyone's going to be talking about it.
There's like,
in your circles in Progressive Hollywood,
nobody likes MAGA.
Go for it.
A little interesting.
No, there's going to be clips of him going around
begging men to bang his wife.
A little interesting Easter egg in there
if the story's real,
but that's aligned with reality anyway.
Notice how like the fight kind of started
just because he maybe insinuated
one good thing about Trump.
That's like what I noticed about people.
you better not say anything good about Trump ever.
And it's like, dude, like, I can concede when Democrats do good things.
Like, I can say, like, oh, well, I agree with this, even though overall I don't agree with that.
Like, I can give a Democrat, you know, a compliment.
But it's like, for them on that side, it's like, if you even say anything about Donald Trump, that's positive, they're like, no, we're going to shun you.
It's like Trump derangement syndrome on a whole other level.
You know, I think he's lying too.
Probably for some effect.
Well, because, like, if you go to his Instagram, he's got 640K followers.
but like I pull up one of his latest posts
it's got like 100 comments
and it's just his fans
they're like we love you Jerry you're great
and I'm like scrolling through it
I don't see anybody calling him a cuck or anything like that
yeah he's been editing his thing
but Jerry
no I think I think what happened was
after the Bill Mar thing exploded
and it went massively viral
they probably saw in social media
like your name has popped up in like
seven million searches since that podcast
why he's like because your wife beats you
and they were like this is good for you
it's name recognition
So he probably, they probably set this up.
Go on a podcast.
Revel in it.
Say two big quotes.
Bro, I'm willing to bet his PR guy was like, you need to say in some context,
Jamie, will you please come to my house and bang Rebecca?
That way people can make clips go viral.
And you can always say, oh, it's out of context.
Yeah.
Well, he's funny, by the way, and I think it was a bit.
I think it was very good.
He seemed like he's enjoying it.
It does seem like it.
Right.
He says it twice.
He knows what he's doing.
Part of why he's a good actor is because his brain thinks like that, or it's intentional.
And he's doing it for-
What's a repair person?
Repair person?
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
Listen to this.
Like a handyman?
You got a pus.
He kept calling me a woke P-word.
Are you woke?
If by woke, you mean I'm like a progressive Californian?
Yeah, yeah.
I guess I'm woke.
I guess I'm woke.
If I'm woke, if I call someone a repair person, does-
But you're not really doing that.
What?
Are you really doing that?
I really do what?
Saying the word repair person.
I said it a month.
Are you doing that to look okay with Calabasasas?
Who, by the way, I think there's probably not less people out there.
Are you doing that to look good decadion directors?
Are you actually believe that?
What does that mean?
The casting directors.
Yeah, he called...
Is that like Gen Z slang that I don't know?
Repair person is like instead of a repair man.
They're saying repair person.
Oh, oh my God, dude.
Wow.
Like an impregnated person.
I was like, is this a word for someone who was other person?
Motherly able and is now regularly abled.
You can see that Jerry's like, oh, actually you called me on it.
I'm not, I don't really think like that.
But yes, I'm doing it for kids.
Incredible.
Like, dude, we didn't even catch it because we're like, what?
And it's just, but it's like, yeah, in L.A., it's like they're so sensitive to like that.
A repair person.
Yeah.
Oh, you mean like I guess saying a repair man would be sexist, right?
To a sumptory.
Dude.
I swear, I think we should make it.
You know, you know, repair woman?
No, no, no, no, no.
I think we should just make it as vulgar as possible, like a repair dick and a repair puss.
Just go straight forward.
I can't because we're on TV.
I was about to.
There was another word I was going to use, but it's inappropriate.
Let's say it for the after show.
My point is just like, guys, I don't care if you're offended.
Shut up.
I mean, this comes back to the whole free speech thing.
Really, free speech is about what's your intention.
Are you intending to offend them or not?
I don't care.
But if someone else gets to determine what they think you're in.
attention was if they get to choose, well, I was offended, therefore what you said is a problem,
that's kind of antithetical to the United States Constitution.
I can't control if you're offended by words.
So I don't care.
Like the fact that we didn't even catch on in the beginning, like repairman versus repair
person.
I just goes to show like how crazy we are in society where it's like they're paying so much
attention to like little phrases like that.
I didn't understand what that word phrase meant?
I was like, what is.
Yeah.
No, I was with you.
I thought it was like some weird insider term.
But it's like, no, it's like literally you got to say repair person or repair man.
Yeah.
But women, let's be honest.
Women don't repair anything.
What's the last time you seen a female plumber?
I'll wait.
Like, come on.
I'll wait.
Don't fix anything, dude.
Never seen a female plumber.
I've seen female cops let criminals go.
Yeah.
Funny story for you.
Speaking of female plumber, we had a girl come on her show, and she went to plumbing
school, and there's a test.
There's a test where you have to have a certain level of strength to be able to pull a wrench
or something like that.
And she failed, and they still passed her because she was a woman.
Well, I think it's an important thing to understand is that the highest, the highest,
grip strength among women is below average for men.
This is an important, like this is scientific.
I'm not trying to disparage women.
There is a graph of age and grip strength by age.
The strongest women are below the average male grip strength for every age demographic.
Oh yeah.
I mean, I tell women all the time.
This is why guys open pickle jars.
I told women all the time that come on the show, I was like, look, dude, like you do realize
like a teenage boy can beat you up, right?
Like, you do realize that.
Because some girls are like ghetto and they think.
thing that they can fight it. You see the video where it's like three Marine women versus three
scrawny weak men? No, I didn't see that. I know. I did like a reaction to it and got a bunch of
views. It was, uh, there's, is it quick you want to play now or? I'm just if I can find it. I wonder
if that's why throwing why guys are, they say, oh, you throw like a girl because it's the grip of the
ball, like you're gripping it so hard. It's, it's upper body strength. It's like,
he made a bunch of these. He just keeps doing it because he's getting a million views from doing it.
Probably. Oh, Jerry? It's, uh, no, no, no.
No, no, it's Austin Alexander.
Military women versus skinny Joe's.
Who's stronger?
Who do you think's going to win?
The military women?
The military women or the regular guys?
Any predictions?
After the intro, I think it's going to be the guys.
The women might win some events.
Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze.
It's literally just guys.
It's up, Charlie.
For some reason.
Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze.
A hundred and 20 pounds.
Good squeeze, Charlie.
So far, the guy's total is 394.
Y'all's total is 227.4.
These are women that work out.
These are military women.
You can see, like, you can tell that they're developed too.
Like, yeah, these things work out.
Like, look at their shoulders.
Like, she ain't going to do it.
Come on, Seth.
Squeeze as hard as you can.
Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze.
Damn.
143 pounds.
Skinny Joe, take it for the championship.
Yeah, dude.
The skinny Joe.
were just like guys who don't even work out.
Yeah.
Now here's the thing.
Why are women offended by the idea that men are stronger than like?
What happened in society where there are women who are offended at the idea that men are stronger?
For 50,000 years, unless you're Christian, 5,000.
Women are just like, men are stronger those.
And guys are like, we're stronger than women.
And now all of a sudden in modern society, women are like, I'm as strong as a man if I just exercise.
Maybe it's just feminist, I mean, feminism lying to him for 30 years.
That's a big part of it.
I would say it's because, like, we've civilized the world so much
where it's like women can like literally like just sit in air-conditioned rooms and have a job
and like they don't really understand how like the world works.
So like it's just like it's just negativity, bro.
It's like one of the worst things ever.
There was an art.
They do this periodically, these news publications because they're run by women.
They were like new data finds that what was it?
What was it the story?
I should do it.
I should do a bigger segment on this.
It said that the temperature in offices is,
a relic of the 1970s before women came into the workplace, and everyone just tolerates it because
that's the way it's always been. And I'm like, that was written by a woman because that's not
correct. Men like men, there was, there's an image included where it showed the natural body
heat and the guy is 10 degrees hotter than the woman, like literally muscles produce more heat.
And so men die faster in the wilderness than women do for, and it's also less body fit.
the reason why it's colder in offices is because men feel hot and they can't take off their clothes
and then you get these feminists who are like we should turn the heat up it's not fair that it's cold
men are doing this and it's sexist and it's like okay let's do a compromise guys can get naked
because they don't want to walk around in 72 degrees or you can put a sweater on what do you want to
shirtless guys walk around in boxers with fans on i say control the temperature control the world
I say women can put a sweater on
I can't take my clothes off
just put your sweater on and shut up
Working creates a lot of heat
If it's just your brain
Even if I'm just playing guitar
My whole rooms I start to sweat
I'm like it was like I was shivering
When I walked into this room
And I'm sweating now
And that's after like 20 minutes
Or 30 minutes sometimes
If it's an intense
Because if you're clenching
If all your muscles are clenching
While you're making the noits
This is what I'm talking about
The thermostat in your office
May be sexist
Scientists urge
Updating office attempts for women and seniors
No
Space eaters.
Wear a sweater.
Yeah, you gotta always wear a sweater.
Look, I'm wearing a freaking jacket right now because Tim likes it cold in here.
No one wants to see your...
It's not that I like it cold in here.
We have to run it cold, actually.
It's that the computers, the lights, the cameras, the cameras overheat.
And you're wearing a beanie.
That's not the issue.
It's 64 degrees outside.
I know.
And the air conditioning's on because in this room the camera's overheat.
That is true.
We experienced it.
Yeah.
And like it happened on IRAX a few months ago.
The camera just shut off.
Because it got too hot.
Sony's a notorious.
I use the same cameras.
They're notorious for you.
So I once had to take, I have this little fan down here.
And we had to put it up on the power rack and place it over the camera to stop from overheating.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, I got the same ones.
Sony's are notorious.
Indeed.
But we also have the computers.
They generate a lot of heat.
So even if it's 30 degrees outside, like it's dead winter, this room is getting really hot from the lights in the computers.
So in the winter, the AC is running.
Yeah, every day, literally.
Although it might be easier just to get, like,
like a vent to the outside in the winter. But, you know, that's, that's it. Let's talk about
Chud the Builder because, because Myron's here. We got this from WKRN. Bond remains at one million
dollars for Chud the Builder shooting case in Montgomery County. Dalton Earthly, the online
streaming of Chud the Builder, appeared in Clarksville courtroom at a bond hearing Wednesday afternoon.
He was scheduled for a 9-15 appearance in Davidson County General Sessions Court before Judge
Melissa Blackburn, but he did not appear.
A transport for Earthly was reportedly
arranged from Clarksville, blah, blah, blah.
He's charged with, what is it?
He was charged with three misdemeanors
for theft.
Resisting arrest, was that what that was for?
They're holding him over that, not the attempted
murder?
I think that was what was another case.
Right, and I'm saying, is that what they're keeping him for?
I maintain my position.
Chud the Builder is going to get locked up forever.
You think so?
This is a big test right now in the culture war.
the strength of woke currently, right?
Derek Chauvin was unjustly put in prison.
Agreed.
They tried to murder him.
He's a pardon.
And no, he does not.
You don't think so?
The reason why he's been federally charged to protect him.
If he is put in a Minnesota state jail, they'll murder him.
Oh, you mean in that?
I meant complete pardon.
I meant like, yeah.
You're going into the technicality of like, yeah, if he goes to state prison, it'll be a problem.
Right.
People have been asking Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin and prominent conservative personnel.
You need the governor and the president to do that.
do it. Yeah, you need the president and the governor.
The federal charges are to keep him from being
murdered in state prison. Yeah, I see your point.
But yes, so in the case of Chauvin,
he showed up after the fact. And the federal case only
really worked because the state case worked.
Because they got him on like color of rights law.
I think the federal case only exists to keep him from being
murdered. You can make that argument, but I'm saying
like the federal case got more teeth because the state case won.
You get what I'm saying? Because they like, it was deprivation of color of rights.
So like that's what they...
Perhaps. I think the federal charges wouldn't exist unless there was an
attempt to keep him from being murdered?
Like the government can just convict you and make shit up.
Yeah, you can make that argument.
So Chauvin shows up after the fact.
Floyd was already resisting arrest, was already chewing a speedball, had already committed
a crime.
Shovin shows up.
He's already on the ground.
Indeed.
Chauvin shows up he's already on the ground.
So he has no idea what's going on.
And then he decides, I'm going to use a restraint that I was trained to use, that the
prosecution acknowledged he was trained to use.
And by all means, you could be upset at the training and how it.
was done. But the fact they put the Asian cop in prison for the rest of his life for simply
standing there holding his hands up for the crowd shows it's all fake. Now here's the point.
You got hit federally too. All of them did. Yeah, all of them. Now we're in the case of Chud
the builder. And I think it's easy to say Chud has a history of antagonizing people,
walking up to black dudes, acting up, but they don't result in shootings or like hardcore beatdowns.
The issue is, in the initial case with Chud the Builder, and this is going to, this is a, this whole case is a big question about the current strength of woke and where we're as a country.
The argument made in the initial story was that he was leaving, was he was leaving court armed.
Some guy had words.
He had words with the guy.
A fight breaks out.
Chud shoots him.
My initial reaction is attempted murder is ridiculous.
Like, if a fight breaks out, the idea that Chud intentionally approves.
approach this for the purpose of killing a guy is ridiculous. Maybe you get him on some like reckless
discharge or negligence or something like this or assault with a deadly weapon, maybe, but
attempted murder is insane. The implication there is that Chud walked up to this guy believing I am
going to kill this man. Now here's the important thing. New information has since come out that
indicates Chud was actually attempting to disengage from the guy before the guy jumped up and hit him,
which creates a
again we don't have
not all the evidence
has been released
but this changes everything
I can quickly go through
the fact pattern
yeah so here's the fact pattern
basically he was there
for a civil case
there and the other guy
Josh Fox was there
was a criminal case wasn't it
over the civil
civil for Chuddy was there
for civil reason
I think it was like some
debt or something like that
yeah that was criminal
Chud didn't pay a bill
and they charged him with theft
it was a criminal case
I think it was a civil case
but that's neither here or there
he was theft
A misdemeanor charge of theft under $1,000 just
He wasn't there for that case.
He was there for another case that was civil before that.
Oh, okay.
But he did have a criminal case at the same time a couple days prior.
Yes, you are correct about that.
But why he was there in that particular day was for a civil case from what I understand.
But either way, neither here nor there.
He's there.
He's in a suit, et cetera.
He's streaming.
He walks by the, he sees that this guy named Josh Fox or aka Joshua Love on Facebook.
Points and, you know, they laugh.
He walks over and says, hey, how you guys doing?
You like my suit.
They're like, hey, get the F out of here, whatever may be.
He's like, okay, it's important to know that he was streaming at the whole time on a website called pump or pump fun, whatever, maybe some streaming service that does crypto.
Pump.
Pump. Fun, I think.
Yeah, that's what it was.
And I say that because it's going to come relevant later.
And then the guy says, get out of here.
He walks away.
As he walks away, the guy engages with him and something to the extent of I have PTSD.
If you say the N-word to me or you say chipping out, we're going to have problems, blah, blah.
He gets in Chud's face, says it.
And then Chud is like, or what, you're going to chip out.
And then the guy strikes him, right?
So he closed distance to him.
Now, in the complaint, the criminal complaint that an investigator wrote,
apparently he took a bladed stance like this as the guy was coming towards him to, you know,
to address.
Yeah.
And they're trying to say like, well, he didn't pull out the weapon, but he like was, I guess,
reaching in his jacket or whatever.
Which, you know, Tennessee, for those just to say, it is a stand-your-ground state,
so you have no duty to retreat, which is important to know.
So he comes up, punches him.
The camera falls and you don't see anything from there.
You just hear gunshots after.
Now, the investigator, when they had this bond hearing about two weeks ago or a week and a half ago,
and they showed the footage as well in the courtroom.
And this is how I know the fact pattern here I'm saying is correct,
is because multiple people that the courtroom told me that I was correct.
The investigator admitted that the shots were fired as they were going down.
Now, anyone that understands like firearms and self-defense in general,
getting in a street fight, going to the ground is the worst thing you could do,
especially if you're armed.
So there was also some talk about him potentially being in a headlock,
which kind of makes sense because I was wondering, how did he shoot himself?
Because if you guys look, he has a mark on his left side.
Exactly.
He has a mark on his left-hand side, which is indicative of like,
if you're on headlock and your right-handed, he's gone over his arm.
Exactly, exactly.
So that makes sense.
And that's his defense attorney is the one that said that he wasn't a headlock.
And then the investigator is the one that said, as they were going to the ground,
that's when the shots were fired.
So with that fact pattern, I'm like, okay, well, the guy closed the distance on him
to stay on your ground state.
He made some comments.
I have PTSD.
You say that stuff around me.
You can infer PTSD veteran.
Well, you're in a military.
You're trained to kill people.
all of these different factors come into play
when it comes to self-defense.
And I think the most important thing here
because a lot of people
is a very an emotionally charged case
and I've gotten in so many debates about this.
It's not about do you like Chud
or 2020 hindsight.
It's about did Chud act reasonably
given the facts and circumstances
at the moment he pulled the trigger.
I would argue he has a good case.
I disagree.
Okay, why so.
This case is about
can a white man who shot a black man
avoid jail time?
Oh, okay.
I'm talking about from a legal perspective.
If we want to talk about it,
how it's going to actually play out,
that's fine.
likes to do. The left just says, well, he's white, go to jail. Like Derek Chauvin, it's like,
maybe he's a white guy. With, uh, let me say this. Trayvon Martin.
Let me say, like Zimmerman's a white guy. He's like, well, he's not. He's just bad.
Not, no, no, no. Zimmerman got off though. And, and Zimmerman got off, even though he didn't,
uh, Trayvon Martin didn't have a weapon. Um, so if you can articulate that, you know,
you're in fear of your life. That was a photo of Zimmerman with blood all over his face.
Well, that goes, that plays into it, but Pete woke, didn't happen until 10 years after
Trayvon Martin. Trayvon Martin was the beginning of Black Lives Matter. Yes, so if this guy. But
No, but factually is.
That's, no, I agree.
The protest movement Black Lives Matter
started after the killing of Treven Martin.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, and that's when we started to see,
and this was going to say,
this is when we started to see
politically charged prosecutions where, like,
the state in the federal system is completely different.
As a guy that came from the federal system,
I can tell you guys,
and AUSA is not bringing charges
unless they know that they can, like, you know,
win in court.
Like, by the time you're attestifying a grand jury
to get a grand jury indictment,
you're prepared for trial.
The feds are very buttoned up
when it comes to their criminal cases.
But when it comes to the state,
they're not as like, you know,
tight and refined. Now, when it comes to political charges cases like this, where you got like,
you know, a white and a black person and it's, you know, very divisive, the state typically
is on the side, let's charge it, let's bring it to a grand jury, let them decide. If they do get
a true bill, cool, we'll take it to trial. If we lose, at least we can say we tried. Because after
the George Floyd situation, they don't want to see their cities lit up on fire, you know, or a race war
because of it. So they look at it like charge, let the grand jury and the people decide. So in this
situation, if this dude came up, like the fact patterns you were eliciting, there comes up to Chud,
who, by the way, Chud, get your real name out there and shave your mustache, because you look
like one of those boxers from 1920 with the...
Fighting ours?
Yeah, yeah.
So this guy comes up to him, he's like, look, I got PTSD.
You say chimping out to me one more time, and I'm going to go nuts on you, and then
Chud says it again?
He says, or yeah, then he said, or what, you're going to chip out, and then he punches.
So he says, or what, you're going to, the thing that you said not to do, and he does it?
Does that not, like, not stand your ground?
Isn't that more like he's aggressing back at the guy
by saying the word?
The guy just said one more time
or just say if you say chipping out to me, then I'll.
The guy, from what Myron just said,
the guy comes up to him.
You say chipping out again, I'm going to attack
or do whatever, and then Chau the builder says it again.
Yeah, he said, he said, or what you're going to X, Y, Z.
So like, and, and, you know,
some people have made some arguments to like,
oh, well, those are fighting words.
No, that's, there's no, this, not fighting words.
Even the N-word, in of itself,
like, it needs to be put in a way
where it's like, you know, an eminent force or, or,
You have to use it with the intent?
Exactly.
Right.
Where if eminent forces, where force is imminent, excuse me.
There is a video where there's this guy like tabling at a university, whatever, and some dude walks up and says, you called someone the N-word.
He's like, I did not.
Yeah.
And then the young conservative explains he was talking about how people use the N-word and he said it, and then the guy should swing and punching at him.
That's not provocation.
Provocation would be if you walk up to someone and call them the N-word.
now you're in shaky grounds for self-defense.
So, yeah, I mean, typically the person that closes the distance is the aggressor
in most standard ground and or self-defense situations.
But in this thing, I think, you know, again, let me be clear about this.
Am I a fan of nuisance streamers, whatever?
Yeah, they can be entertaining and everything else like that.
But like when it comes to this case, I'm looking strictly at the facts.
Like, I think he has a strong self-defense case.
I see your perspective where it's like, hey, you're saying like, look, regardless
of the facts of the case, you're looking at it like, hey, it's politically motivated.
he's going to get convicted or whatever.
This is where the attorney's got to be good.
His defense attorney had a whole discussion with this about with Andrew Branca.
The defense attorney, his defense attorney's got to work to ensure that very little from like
Chud's streaming stuff comes in and that it's objective based on the facts that occurred on
that day.
Now, with that said, is some of it going to come in?
Yes.
But if it does come in, Joshua Love stuff is also going to come in because in January he
posted on Facebook.
If I find this Chud guy, I'm going to fight him and push my to push my Twitch
career.
Yeah.
Is the actual guy?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
This guy is, yeah.
Interest.
So from his perspective, it was definitely premeditated.
Yeah.
From Trud's perspective, we don't know.
He is.
Yeah.
He might, we don't know if he didn't know.
Well, the presumption is innocence.
Like, we can't assume he did.
If there's no evidence, we presume he did not.
Yes.
But we do not introduce the idea that Chud was aware of who this person was unless
you can present any kind of evidence.
Yeah.
Well, if he did know, it would help his case potentially because he can make the argument,
oh, I saw this guy.
He ran to hurt me, blah, blah, blah.
That's why I reacted the way that I did.
Yeah, but I don't think he needs.
We don't know.
We don't know.
If this dude...
Are you sure that's the right guy?
100%.
Yeah.
It was his Facebook profile.
He goes by Joshua Love on Facebook,
but his real name is Joshua Fox.
And this is the same guy that tried to, you know,
do arson and, you know,
burn a house with his wife and his child.
For all I know, he was standing outside the courtroom on purpose waiting for,
Chud.
He was there for, I think, some child support stuff.
He was there for child support,
and Chud was there for a civil matter.
So, confluence of events,
but this guy has had already
publicly stated that he was going to hurt Chud the Builder.
And then he hurt Chud the builder.
In January, yeah.
Wow.
Because he made a comment that he never comes on our side of town.
But if I do see him, I'm basically going to antagonize a fight and get my Twitch
career popping off.
Wow.
See, and these are facts that like no one like it talks about, right?
So like, you know, and I spoke with a couple of people that actually were in the courtroom
at that hearing where they played the video and they said, yes, what you said is pretty
much spot on and that's what occurred.
But I see where you're going to him, you're like, look, you can have a strong self-defense
case, but like, hey, is he going to get a, yeah, and that's ridiculous.
too. By the way, it's insane. There was someone
that got a quarter million dollar bond
that literally killed someone. Murder one.
Even if... Insane, dude. Insane.
Even if this is a case
where Chud is guilty
and is the aggressor, attempted murder
is an insane charge.
Yes, but I will say this. Assault with
a deadly weapon, maybe. This is what
it's going to be. His defense,
and this is what Branko was saying as well when I was speaking with him.
For those that don't know, Andrew Branko,
fantastic self-defense turning one of the best in the country.
The goal
for the defense is going to have to work to keep as much stuff out about, you know, from
Chud's, you know, streaming or whatever to make sure that there's no, nothing unduly suggestive
or, you know, will taint the jury or whatever. Obviously, the entire Vordera process of bringing
jurors in, you're going to want people that don't, aren't familiar with who he is. But if they do
do do that, he did mention that if they do, that they, obviously Josh Fox, his background is
going to have to come in too. And I suspect that he's going to have to be the state star witness
in this. And he didn't get arrested either, which is interesting.
I'm excited that Sarah Fields is covering the Carmelo Anthony trial.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's another big one.
She said, juror 142 said, quote, I don't know that I would feel right putting a brother in jail.
Well, he should be dismissed.
Yeah.
Of course.
I probably was.
The point is.
A BLM guy in the Chauvin trial, like, for a jury.
And I was like, this is.
They were lying.
Yeah.
The point is this, Ian.
A jury system exists for a people.
And we as the United States, we are not a people.
Black people don't, like this guy said it.
And this is a common sentiment among black people in the United States.
they're like, I'll put a white guy in jail, I want a black guy in jail.
Actually, actually, we had a study on this.
We talked about it on this show.
White people have zero bias based on race in criminal justice.
Every other racial minority would intentionally get a racial minority of their own, of their kin off.
They would say not guilty.
And they'll study on?
So we talked about it.
I think it was last year.
There's a study where they tracked white jurors and found zero racial bias.
Then they tracked Hispanic, Asian, and black and found pure racial bias.
For black people, if you're Asian, white, Latino, or otherwise, you're guilty if you're guilty.
If you're not guilty, you're not guilty.
If you're black, not guilty no matter what.
For Mexicans, if you're Mexican, not guilty, no matter what.
If you're Asian, not guilty, no matter what.
White people, if you're white, black, or otherwise, you're guilty if you're not guilty.
Yeah.
No, but it is insane, though, because, like, they, like, compared, like, all the different people
that got bond in that, in that court, in that same.
jurisdiction and like chud has by far the most expensive ever like eight times the normal and like there's
people that like were you know convicted pdfs you know murderers etc they're getting 100,000 250k bond
and for chud and then he had his bond hearing today and apparently the judge ruled no bond because
every person that posts bond can only post 100k so he needs 10 different bail bondsmen companies basically
to put up 100,000 because duel put up the one million they have it they put up them one million
but the judge said no, the limit is 100,000
and it's like, dude, what is this?
That's crazy, dude.
Okay, I got a question.
Because I think in addition,
what you're saying about tribalism,
it's ridiculous.
Trivolistic juries that the internet
makes it hard to get an untainted jury
because you hear about these national stories
like Kyle Rittenhouse,
pretty much everybody knew who he was.
So in this situation, as part of the media,
do we have a duty not to talk about it?
Well, I mean, media's going to report on it or whatever.
You know, I think what Chud, like,
he's still fairly, like, you know,
unless you're in the streaming world
or you really tapped in with the internet,
you're going to know who he is,
but I think like Normies, boomers, they're not going to know.
They'll be able to probably get a somewhat fair jury.
But my thing is I'm looking at it like this bond situation is nuts.
Like it's good.
Dude, literally like two weeks prior to Chud, some dude killed somebody, some black kid.
And he got a quarter million, quarter million bond.
He has to get 100 from each person too.
Yeah.
That's the max is 100K.
So the guy that had 250, he still needed to get three different people to pay his bond as well.
Max is 100.
Yeah.
So, so dual put up a million.
Alex Rosen.
I'm not talking about this other guy.
I know Alex Rosen, this other guy.
Like he was going to put up 100 and they're like, no, we need 10 different people putting up 100K.
What?
Yeah.
You said this other guy had a 250.
They're making a fake reason.
Lock him up, or I told you.
It's ridiculous.
I said this today.
I was like, he's getting locked up.
Thank you and I stay.
Yeah, my question, do, does everybody that's posting bond need 100K from different sources or is that just a one-off with this Chud situation?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
But, but you don't, but keep in mind with like 250K, you've got only got to cut up coming with 10%.
A lot of the time.
So does he only need 10% with a one million bond?
I think each person can only put up 10%,
which is why it's 100,000.
That's why.
Oh.
Because if 250K, you know, put up 510%, 10%,
25K, right?
For Chud, it's a million,
but 100K is the max.
So that's a bond law,
is that you can only, any one person can only put 10%.
I don't know if it's a law or whatever,
but that's what the judge said today during the hearing,
which is insane.
So that's purposely why, I guess, strategically,
why they have his bond so high.
It was originally at 1.25.
now it's at one
and it's ridiculous.
They kept it at one
because that's the minimum
that you can't bond.
Yeah, it says
this article from WSMV
this unique rule
is going to keep them locked up.
They say
bonding companies are only permitted
to put forth
$100,000 of liability.
They can't take full responsibility.
As such,
10 different companies
would have to split the risk
and require a $10,000
bond be paid to each of them
during Wednesday's hearing
Earthly's attorney
requested the cap allowance
be raised,
saying that only two bonding companies
so far were willing to work
on the case. Goodman denied that request. They're going to find every reason in the world
to get him an unfair trial and lock him up. Yeah. He's... Yeah. And look, you know, and I want people
that are watching this that like might not like Chaud or be like he's a racist, whatever, that's fine.
You don't have to like him. I'm not arguing that. What I'm saying is, like, if you believe in a
Second Amendment, if you believe in the ability to defend yourself, like, you need to keep an eye on
this and, you know, this is going to obviously... I don't think that matters. Oh, it does,
because it's First Amendment, too. If this guy, if his intention was not to produce fighting words
when he said, what are you, then you're going to chimp out again?
Like, then the guy had no right to attack him.
You guys are so 1990s, man.
I mean, I know you get it.
I know you get it, Myron.
Listen, man.
If you go to San Francisco, if he gets convicted.
You'd think you got free speech in San Francisco.
You don't.
If conservatives go to San Francisco and speak up,
the cops will laugh as Antifa beats the crap out of you with crow bars.
And they'll do nothing about it.
You live in a violent militocracy, but if you're charismatic...
Militocracy.
Yeah.
We're basically.
the cops can shoot you at any moment for any reason off camera.
And they'll get off.
You guys see the Lego story out of Utah?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The cops just making, making stuff up.
Yeah.
This score is crazy.
A guy pawned his $200,000 worth of the Legos and then the cops came and took it.
I don't know what's the story exactly.
There's a lot more to that.
But I'm referencing Reckless Ben, there's body camera footage where he stops at a stop sign.
And the police argued he blew the stop sign because he stopped shortly after the stop sign.
so they said he was crossing the stop line.
And I'm like, but you have to see
oncoming traffic because cars are parked.
Anyway, to your point,
largely, yeah, in a lot of circumstances,
like this is the thing about power guys.
If you go to a small town
and you F with that small town,
a cop will shoot you in the face in broad daylight
and every single member of that town will say,
I didn't see nothing.
That's the reality of power.
Okay, that's how it works.
Free speech, everybody's making these arguments about, you have a right to free speech.
What is this about is about is who Chud is and whether there will be a group of people who want Chud out.
Now, you can make the arguments, every argument in the world about the first amount of Second Amendment.
What you're trying to do there is to assert legitimacy and institutional authority.
We must abide by this thing.
The truth is that the real goal there is to convince regular people, and I'm not saying you're wrong to do it.
stand the point of saying he has a First Amendment right and Second Amendment right. But the reality
of the exercise of power is, will there be enough powerful people in Tennessee to say, stop or not?
I think they're going to lock him up. I don't think any prominent millionaires, billionaires,
influential politicians in Tennessee are going to stick their neck out for this guy.
The inverse is going to happen. They're going to say, I don't want to get caught up in that.
Lock him up. And then the question of free speed. You're saying like practically you think he's
going to get locked up. But do you think he's a valid self-defense though with that?
fact pattern? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Initially, I was saying, you think he's like,
from the fact pattern, he's in the right, however, you think they're going to make an example
out of him. So I'll clarify, initially when the story came out, and what we understood was that he
walked up to a guy, they had words, and a fight broke out. I'm like, they're going to look at his
history and say, Chud has a tweet where he said. And they don't have the pump video yet.
That's the other thing I was going to tell you. They're working on getting it.
Chud has a tweet where he said, we all know, something like, we know how this ends with me doing
thing that ends in death, and then y'all going nuts when I get off when I get out of jail.
statements like that will play a role in whether or not, however,
once we learned from the charging documents that Chud tried to disengage, it changes everything.
The fact that he tried to disengage makes attempted murder the most psychotic charge.
Again, they could still get him on some, like, if the argument was that Chud walked up to a guy,
like they said something to him, he walked up, words were had, a fight breaks out, and he shoots him,
the best charge they could get reasonably would be like assault with a deadly weapon.
you're not going to argue.
So second degree murder is like passion murder.
That in that moment, in his mind,
Chud said, this man must die and decided I'm going to kill.
That's not that he's getting beat up.
So that's,
once you hear the charging documents that
Chud attempted to disengage,
now you've removed all intent.
Chud had no intention of causing harm to this other person.
Then he gets hit.
Now a fight was started by the other guy
after Chud tried to disengage.
Now you've got a self-defense.
Prosecutor's always overcharged though,
Because it gives him a little bit more wiggle room later on to, oh, we will plead to this.
They almost always.
Right, right, right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But if he goes for trial on this one, on the merits, I think his lawyers are going to say,
Chad, you're going to prison because it's a good lawyer.
If he has a good lawyer.
And his lawyer ensures that, you know, they mitigate as much of this, like, streaming stuff
coming in to not taint the jury.
I think he has a very solid chance.
And they go on the facts and circumstances on there.
And then, you know, if they do do that, have the contingency of where.
going to destroy your main witness's character because this guy Josh Love is a POS.
That's another option.
But we'll have to see, man.
But what's allowed?
Everyone thought Did he was gone?
And then did he beat the Rico?
Did he literally beat the Rico with a fantastic legal defense?
Yeah.
Not only that did he do it, but then he did do it when he got off from what he did.
You saw she just like left the country with like 30 million?
I mean, it's at the judges.
Cassie, the star witness, his ex-girlfriend.
It's at the judge's discretion though, right?
So, and the judge is already shown that by the bail stop that,
he's probably I think because the state system please correct me if I'm wrong here but like the state system is kind of like the federal one it's not been indicted yet so it's like at a lower level judge okay right right if he gets indicted then it's going to go to like a real trial judge and a lot of times magistrates are like kind of cowards they don't really want to like I don't want to be the guy to do this or whatever they want the liability so that might be a reason why he's behaving the way that he is what would be a manslaughter chart like what would be an example of manslaughter chart like would be like a manslaughter charge like a manslaughter charge of what would be a manslaughter charge of this could constitute like a manslaughter charge of a manseller charge.
could be like, okay, look, we don't got enough for attempted murder, whatever.
Let's go with a manslaughter or whatever.
But, you know, we'll see what happens.
I don't have had to die, though?
Like, for manslaughter, wouldn't you have had to die?
Or attempted manslaughter.
Or attempted manslaughter.
Like, what's the difference?
It's all the deadly weapon or something.
Just, I don't know.
People probably know about this, but the difference between murder two and manslaughter,
do you know, off the top of your head?
It depends.
Every state is different.
So, like, murder one is when you, is generally when you intend to go to kill someone.
Yeah.
Yeah,
Murted premeditated, planned out.
Yeah.
Murder two is you intended to kill someone,
but you didn't go planning.
Like, you didn't go to the guy's house, right?
So you were somewhere,
something happened,
and you intended to kill him,
but you didn't show up at that place,
intended to kill him.
And then manslaughter is there was an altercation.
Something happened,
and you tried to defend yourself and...
Or you drunk, drove,
killed somebody.
Yeah.
You did something that caused someone to die,
generally again, but like...
Yeah, every state's different,
but like, but with this one,
I mean, you know,
we'll see what happened.
happens. I know they're going to push it to the grand jury. They'll probably get an indictment
because probable cause it such a low barrier. People don't understand how low it is, especially at the
state level. And we'll see what happens. But yeah, I think it's really going to be on his
defense attorney to like put the work in because I do think that this is completely saligible and the
defense attorney is going to have to, you know, but I don't know. The defense attorney has made some
tweet that was really weird. Like, oh yeah, we're not racist. Like, we've made this whole like tweet
about like, because they've been getting a lot of phone calls and people complaining.
People need to understand how politics and power work.
And, you know, it's beneficial to the powers that be that we all believe in the legitimacy of a system in which there is little legitimacy.
And what I mean by that is we want to believe that if you're innocent, you will be found not guilty by the jury.
We want to believe that when the police are asking you questions and you're innocent, if you're honest, they'll say thank you for your assistance.
Of course.
Except we live in a country where when the cops are asking you questions, they're really thinking, how can I write?
this guy.
Yep.
We live in a country where, again, like I said, if you drive through a small town of like a thousand
people in the middle of, say, like, Nebraska, and let's say you get out and you're acting like
a dick, you're pissing everybody off, they know.
Then you get into a fight with somebody and they want to get rid of you, they can get
rid of you and ain't nobody's going to do anything about it.
Let me tell you, I went to Utkiakvik.
That is.
It's Barrow, Alaska, and they changed the name because 70 people voted and no one else did.
Town's got like a thousand people.
We rented a car.
we were driving and Google Maps told us to go down this one road.
The only problem is it was a summer road and currently it was just snow ditch.
So I was like, hey, look, we got a road right here.
It says we can go across and then we go and we get stuck.
So they pull the car out and we get a flat.
Literally every single person in the town of Barrow, Alaska knew that we got a flat tire.
Not only did they know we were there because when we landed, it's only a thousand people.
people got off the plane and they recognized me and they're like what what are you doing here and
I was like we came to check it out it's like the northern most cities of America it's like a place to go
everybody knew we were there the moment we got a flat tire we get a phone call from the the rental
company small companies like so you got a flat huh you want to let's bring it back in we're like yeah
sorry about that we go to get food at a restaurant they're like oh flat tire huh everybody knows now
imagine what happens of course on group chat or something yeah because the local news is so
small. Now imagine you go to a small town and you do something like shoplift or you get into a car accident or
you hit a kid or something. You could go into a small town and they could simply be like,
we're smuggling drugs and you saw us. Bang, the cop shoots you and says, our economy is based off
the illegal drug smuggling, so we're not going to let you leave. And then what are you going to do
about it? You're missing and the local police say, we'll investigate nothing ever happens. Just another
missing person. That's how politics actually works. Were you, Myron, were you a cop in the in the
Was that your role?
No, my official title was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations or HSI.
Did you arrest people?
Was that part of your job?
All the time, yeah.
Did you ever look at people and just be like, I don't care what they did, I'm going to arrest them?
So at the federal level, you have to present an enormous amount of evidence to even get
an AUSA to like take your case and get it indicted and charged.
Like we don't have the same level of probable cause arrest leverage like the state does.
Like, for example, you get stopped on traffic stop.
I smell weed.
you did this. I'm just going to make an arrest right there, take you to jail, book you,
let the DA deal with it later. The federal system doesn't work like that, contrary to popular belief.
Feds have very little power to actually effectuate arrest without full support of the United States Attorney's Office.
Like, you're not going to make an arrest unless you talk to an AUSA.
So that makes it where, and this is why they don't lose case a lot of times because you're typically
working a case alongside the prosecutor the entire time versus at the state and local level.
They kind of do it on their own and then they bring the prosecutor in.
after and that's why there's so many mistakes and state cases almost always the 50% failure
rate so many times so that's like one of the main differences okay is it because you have to wait for
it was it as ua is what they're called a united states attorney's office so we call them a usa's assistant
united states attorney do you have to wait attorney do you need their authority to make the arrest or do you
you just it's just smart to wait for it yeah pretty much like i'll give an example when i was on the border
right we can catch someone smuggling in like 20 kilos of coke right we got them there he confessed whatever
i still got to call the a u s and be like look i'm going to file
criminal complaint this is what i got okay we're gonna accept it right and you send a complaint in and then
you send it they look at it then they forward it to the judge like everything still has to go through
them you're not gonna you know go to a judge without going to an a USA like the staying local skin
you can take him you take him into custody when you have them in custody while you're getting that
yeah like when he's there and like i'll call the a USA and get that concurrence uh that they're gonna
accept the complaint um but like i can't let's just like take them and drop them off without
talking to an a us is he in handcuffs by the time you call a USA a lot of times because like you'll
show up and like he'll be there and customs has them and then like you take it from there
like you finish your picture yeah you're like you'll show up he'll be there cuffed up and then if
you show up fast enough you can do what's called the control delivery hey where was this
drug supposed to go new york city all right you want to cooperate yeah making control call calls a guy
hey so i got a flat we're going to go cool we do the control delivery i call the a usa
we're going to do a cd we take it to where it's going to go and then we do the surveillance or if he
says i don't want to cooperate okay cool we're going to follow the people complaint do you concur
Have you ever mercilessly beaten them in?
Please say yes.
No, no, no, man.
There's mercy involved.
There's mercy involved.
Obviously, there's always, look, there's always corruption everywhere.
Let me be clear about this.
There's always corruption everywhere.
But I would say, like, at the federal system, like, it's a lot, it's far more buttoned up and cross-sting T's and dotting eyes.
And that's why they barely lose cases.
And, like, you know, by the time we're coming to get you at 6 o'clock in the morning,
the investigative has been going on for a year or two.
We have informants.
We have you on the phone.
We have, you know, wiretaps.
We've done search warrants.
We've done grand jury subpoenas.
Like, we have an enormous amount of evidence on you by the time we show up at your house at 6 a.m.
probable cause arrest are actually very rare at the federal level unless you have everything, like right then and there.
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I just get into arguments with the people.
They're not my people.
I do want to call in.
If you created a role in your Discord just for calling in, it would be cool.
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You don't have to argue with people.
I don't understand.
Sign up, join the Discord.
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Easy enough.
Timcast.com.
It's like running through a gauntlet.
You have to not get baited by the things.
But you know, I think I'm pretty sure the call, isn't the call-in chat separate from the actual chat?
Yeah.
Like call-in submissions is its own thing where you submit a question and then.
Yeah, they're all different.
You can just practice self-restraint and not actually engage in arguments.
I mean, I appreciate the rant, 50 bucks.
You know what I mean?
For sure.
It's like five months of membership right there.
It's worth it, bro.
You'll be a stronger person when you can resist it.
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for the birth of our first son.
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Oh, Tate. Congratulations.
Pull him it down.
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Big ups to Myron.
I expected a screed against Jews.
Instead, it was a screed against women.
Congrats for staying on message.
Oh, no.
That's that one.
Bad Mouth Bandit says, unfortunately today we had to put down our family cat,
Henry.
He will be missed dearly.
Rest in peace, my free friend.
Endolences.
Thanks, Henry.
Man.
The Fallen says
Ian Hassan wasn't banned for being communist
he was banned because he repeatedly calls for terrorism
against governments and the killing of influential people
From in the UK?
Everywhere.
Everyone.
Yeah.
All the time.
I didn't insinuate that it was just because of his
larping communism that he got banned.
But I do think that's why he's getting investing.
You know what?
I think there's a lot of really dumb people
and I feel like the political divide in this country
is an IQ test.
So for a lot of people who are like average or above average intelligence, they can see these problems and they can think a few steps ahead.
And they say, okay, well, if we want to solve these problems, we need to implement these strategies.
Dumb people just say it's someone's fault.
It's just someone's fault.
Hassan and there are other commentators, but Hassan is the kind of guy who says, you're right to be mad and blame that person for it.
blame that person.
Blame the billionaires.
Exactly.
It's always some unreachable evil that you can't stop.
Now, the left says the right wants to scapegoat migrants.
Except when the right scapegoats migrants, they say, hey, they're taking low-skill jobs
that Gen Z should be taking.
They're driving up the price of houses.
They're causing problems in supply and demand.
And they're disruptive to our culture.
That's very, very different from the billionaires did it.
So if you can think a few steps ahead, you'll go, hey, a wealth tax really wouldn't work.
where will they get the money from?
You can't tax in non-intangible wealth.
The left just says,
the top 1% pay 40% of the taxes of them.
That's why I love the question.
Like, you know,
Dave's getting ragged on for the Jubilee thing,
but he had a few good points is,
what's the fair share?
You want to tax the rich?
What is the fair share the rich should pay?
They don't have an answer.
There isn't one.
It's just, give me, give me, give me.
It should fluctuate.
It's not, I mean, there are people that say,
give me, give me,
but really the motivation now,
I think is largely hurt the people
that I blame for my position in life.
It's not motivated about...
Right, because the truth is, they're all rich.
Yeah.
The truth is, poor people in the United States
are wealthier than 99.99%
of all humans who have ever existed.
And I'm not trying to minimize the struggle you have
with your bills, your car payment, your mortgage.
I'm trying to minimize the struggle you have
if you're a young person who can't buy a house
or get married.
But it is true what I am saying.
Humans in America today are wealthier
than the overwhelming majority
of all humans who have ever existed.
So the challenge is always relative.
That doesn't mean you're wrong when you say, I wish I could own a house and I want to have a family.
And it sucks that it's become harder and harder to do, and we want to solve for those problems.
And the most black millionaires are in America, despite systemic racism, right?
And the challenge is these progressives don't have to work.
They don't.
And many of them don't work.
They're professional activists.
They eat whatever they want, whenever they want, they got hot, clean, running water, and they're upset about it.
It's part of why I've softened on the military.
Yeah, the war machine for instance, the empire.
Like, I used to rail against that thing.
But as I sit here in my air conditioning, talking to the internet for money, I realize
I'm living on the back of the empire.
So, like, I'm not going to tear it down.
I used to be the kind of tear it down guy.
Just be realistic about what you're utilizing in life and don't rip it apart.
Well, you know, it's first world problems, right?
Like, when people say things, you know, like I was giving the joke earlier, like, you know,
black people complain all the time about systemic racism and all this, you know, oppression,
or whatever. It's like, dude, we have the most black millioners here than anywhere else in the world.
Like, you know, yeah, Liberia waits.
I get it. But yeah, right, go back to Wakanda.
But it gets the Vibrania.
Liberia is in Illinois. Liberia is in Western Africa.
I mean that the Vibrarian is in Illinois.
There is a town in Illinois called Wakanda.
As part of Chicago Metro, I used to go there all the time.
I don't know. And it's like I want to give people, you know, perspective to be appreciative of what they have.
But without taking it away from them, you know, I encourage you to go to a foreign country and live in like,
relatively destitute area for a while where you barely get a trickle of shower water.
Been to Sudan, been to Egypt, you know, like it makes you really appreciate, you know,
traveling the world makes you really appreciate like what we have here.
I'm sorry?
You been to Juba?
Never been to Juba, no.
South Sudan?
No, no, well, my friends from the north, but.
The GDP is $300 per capita.
I believe it.
$300.
Yeah, I believe it, though.
It means they're living off like $24 a month.
Not even 24.
Have you been there?
No.
Oh, man.
Do they have convenience stores?
Or is it like, jewell?
Of course. And then when you look in South Sudan, like the American Embassy, it's like this little square, perfect, pristine, and like, it's nice. And everything else is dirt and huts and broken and. I'd love to. I mean, I went as a kid. It's like 95. But it was back when it was one country now. Obviously, it's Sudan, then South Sudan. But yeah. I was, we were looking around on the earth on this show. And I was looking at Algeria, I think it is. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. To Monraset. It's a city.
in like the dead middle of the Sahara in a mountain.
It's like straight in the middle of the Sahara,
and it's got like 150,000 people living there.
I got an airport.
I'm like, that would be a place to go.
That sounds fun.
Algeria?
You'd probably, I'd assume because it's an arid wasteland,
you're not going to get a lot of parasites.
True.
It's pretty crazy.
Sand worms?
That seems like a fun place to go.
Sounds cool to me.
Yep.
Are there ticks and lice in the sand?
I don't know.
But we got the super chat from Dustin A's.
He says, New World Screw Worm has hit the U.S.
This affects all livestock and native wildlife.
Please bring this up.
What's New World Screw Worm?
Sounds really.
Do you work for the World Economic Forum?
Cochleomya hominavorex.
Oh, it's one of those flies that injects its, it's, oh my God.
No way.
What?
Like a bot fly?
The New World Screw Worm.
It's a species of parasitic blowfly.
I'll pull this up.
This is bad.
Gross.
Infestation of a live vertebrate animal by a maggot is scientifically termed my, what is this,
meiasis?
Meaesis.
It should be maggot.
What does it do?
So what do they do?
They like embed in the, oh, yeah, dude.
Under the skin.
Yup.
And then a larva grows into a fly and breaks out of your body.
Well, I'm not saying you, because it's not.
not going to happen to you.
Yep.
But if it were to happen to that poor cow.
Whoa, dude, that's nasty.
For June 3rd, 2026, the USDA has confirmed presence of the New World Screw
Room in the United States, specifically in a three-week-old calf in Zavala County, Texas.
This direction follows recent findings of the past in Mexico, is close to 25 to 31 miles
from the U.S. Mexico border.
And they do infect humans.
Yes.
This is what I'm talking about.
Hold on.
The U.S. previously confirmed its first human case in Maryland in 2025 involving
a traveler returning from El Salvador.
So actually, the range does include southern United States.
Yeah.
Like, it just looks like a normal.
Oh, no, no, it's largely eradicated, so it's come back.
They've been working on it.
Oh, so these illegal immigrants are bringing screw worms back.
A fly is going to land on you and land an egg in your arm.
Gross.
And then one day of...
Or in your eye when you're sleeping or something.
Can you imagine how gross that is?
Oh, God.
How gross.
We need stuff like this to remember that nature is the enemy.
It's not...
We're on the same team as humans.
Gaia.
Yeah.
It's not George Storce.
It's a Gaia.
Absolutely not.
Guy out to shake some.
We need to convert.
You know, every, not a day goes by.
I'm not driving past some like big open field and just thinking to myself, could this not
be improved by a Walmart and like a shopping center on parking lot?
Just paint.
You know what I mean?
I just see all these trees and I'm like, enough.
Cut them down.
Walmart.
That's right.
So beautiful from a distance, man.
But walking under tree canteries, I get freaked out from the ticks these days.
I haven't been going under trees lately.
They'll jump on you and then they'll bite you.
They'll burrow their heads into your body and then you can never eat a cheeseburger again.
You got to like peg your pants so they can't get up under your socks and like you can't put on like wear a hat.
They jump off of trees and land on you.
Yeah, they climb up onto the tall stalks of grass and weight and then when you walk by they jump on you.
I was just learning about this mosquito called the Asian tiger mosquito.
Ever see one of those?
They're black with white stripes.
They're real aggressive.
They were in New York City.
in like 2009 or 13 or something
over a Navy.
What do they give you like AIDS or something?
I don't think they were transmitting anything
in particular but they're real aggressive mosquitoes
and they're like little.
They're like streamlined looking.
Streamlined little.
Asian tiger mosquitoes like I hate bugs
but the only benefit they really give
is like for you know besides nature stuff.
They are pretty good when it comes to figuring out
like you know how long someone's been deceased
for solving crimes for murder.
Exquitoes?
No, like flies and stuff like that.
Oh.
Like yeah.
Do you guys hear about like that case with David the singer?
Oh, yeah.
So he left that girl on a Tesla, like the underage girl.
A big part of the reason why they were able to somewhat establish when she passed away was like the development of the bugs.
Yeah.
A free thinking dog says Al slash Tipper Gore founded Parents Music Resource Center.
And this is why we got the explicit lyrics labels and ESRB on games in the late 90s.
The explicit lyrics thing, that was a badge of honor.
But the point I'm making is that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.
of political authority is not always about a law being passed or a cop coming and knocking your door.
When a member of Congress says, I can make a phone call and subpoena you and you'll go to prison,
you're going to do what we tell you to do. That's power politics. So that's my point about
censorship and, you know, with the Twitter, the back door with the FBI and Twitter.
And so there was a, what was that email service? Lava bit? What was it Lava bit? They wanted Snowden's
emails, I think it was Snowden. So the NSA sent a letter that basically said,
that you're going to turn over everything or will destroy you.
So we shut his company down.
It was like, later.
He's like, I will not comply.
And that's what they do.
There's no legal authority to do what they're doing.
They can just say, listen, the things we can do may not be, you know, the procedure is the punishment, basically.
All right.
A free thing dog says, cow will take a nap while standing.
So cow tipping is real because I've done it.
When they want to deep sleep, they'll lay down.
It's hard to push half a ton, though.
So the dairy farmers that I talked to told me.
So 10 years ago, I was thinking cow tipping was like a thing.
And we did this story.
I asked them dairy farmers and they're like, that's not real.
They were like, no one, you can't not.
Like Beavs and Butthead did it and it's fake.
They like kneel next to the cow and then when you push against it and you, it falls over.
That's not possible.
You'd be crushed by the cow.
You can't knock the cow over.
So, you know, and cows sleep lying down.
So, I mean, maybe there are some circumstances in which someone has knocked a cow over,
but the idea that people go cow tipping, as I understand it, is not correct.
For the first time, I typed into my search algorithm, how do you cow tip?
And it does say it's an urban legend.
Yeah.
I haven't looked deeply in yet.
It's not a real or feasible activity.
What?
Is that because you can't push the cow over?
How's your big and heavy, man.
This guy says he did it.
Did he trip the cow?
Did he stick a couple of rocks down there to the right side of its feet?
MX Cope says, Tim, the L.A. Mayoral vote in count went from 60 to 62 and Pratt did not gain a single vote, only Bass in Raman, which is weird considering it's one county.
So it's not like you can look at a state and say these different counties count at different rates and have different political opinions.
So when they're like, oh, the votes came in from one county to one voting location to be counted and Pratt doesn't get any votes, yeah, they're cheating.
And I'll tell you this. This morning, I made a video about this, of which I said the Democrats have,
weeks-long voting practices in California so that they can rig the election.
YouTube froze the video for a half an hour as processing.
It wouldn't go.
So I uploaded a second version of it.
It said processing will begin shortly and it was frozen.
Now it's like 10.01 and I'm like video supposed to go live.
So I grabbed an old video, random, uploaded it to see if YouTube was broken, instantly
uploaded no problem.
So then I re-rendered the video.
put no title and no information in, then it processed, and once it was done processing,
I then put in Democrats or cheating, and here's what happened. Insane. They're playing games.
I thought it was AI scraping your voice, but at least it's just, they were just getting the text,
but still. I believe that I believe YouTube's algorithm searches titles and then decides to
put their thumb on the scale. So this has happened many, many times on specific videos, and it's always
something politically charged.
Not to mention I do a lot of politically charged stuff, but this one's particularly
charged.
And when the upload gets blocked for some reason, and it's always a procedural error,
I re-upload with no title, and then it's fine.
Then once it's public, I'll put the title in.
So it publishes initially as like, it just says Tim Pool.
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At Ian Croson, you find me on the internet.
YouTube and Twitch, I stream live.
Check me out, subscribe.
Go to X.
and you can follow me on Instagram for cover songs
and other music that I put up from time and time.
Go to casprue.com and get Ian's Graphene Dream.
It's a low acidity coffee blend.
Quite good.
Philibonte.
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
You can check out our music on Apple, Music, Amazon, Music, Pandora,
Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
We're going to be playing the warp tour in D.C.
on the 14th of June, just a couple weeks away.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
Carter.
Carter Banks.
You can follow me at.
Carter Banks on X and at Carter Banks official everywhere else.
Also, follow our record label at Trash House Records on YouTube.
There will be a promo video going up tonight for a song that I'm releasing at midnight, so check that out.
Tim.
We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast.I-R-L right now.
Thanks for hanging out.
