Timcast IRL - Democrat Party IS DEAD, Donors FLEE Amid Record Low Polls, Trump ROASTS Juneteenth w/ Nathan Halberstadt

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

Tim, Phil, Mary, & Tate are joined by Nathan Halberstadt to discuss donors fleeing the Democrat party as party collapse continues, Trump suggesting banning Juneteenth as a holiday, Laura Loomer slamming Tucker Carlson & saying he's controlled by Muslims, and Trump saying decision on striking Iran could come in 2 weeks.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Mary  ⁨@PopCultureCrisis⁩  (YouTube, Rumble) Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Nathan Halberstadt @NatHalberstadt (X)

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them when they're down. But I think of all political groups, this is the one you want to go after. So this is the big news. We have them routed and I don't know how they recover. Many have said that this is the oldest political party. It is the oldest political party in the world. And sooner or later, it was going to come crashing down. This may be it. So big news here. And then, of course, Donald Trump ragged on Juneteenth and a viral video where Kroger apparently has Juneteenth cakes, cookie cakes. So it's going to be pretty funny. And there is news kind of Trump says in within two weeks, he'll make a decision on whether to attack Iran, which is perfect, considering the White House also believes that it'll take Iran two weeks to get a nuke. And that's about how long it'll take for the USS Nimitz to get to the region.

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I'm Nathan Halberstadt. My writing is at the American Conservative and also at American Reformer. I spend most of my time at New Founding. We're a venture firm that's focused on critical civilizational problems. Really what that amounts to is our objectives align with what MAGA is trying to accomplish. But instead of focusing on policy through government, we focus on the private sector. And so we're backing and investing in companies and re-industrialized or food products that don't have seed oils in them. Building charter communities and things like that.

Ah, yeah. Should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Mary is here. Hi everyone. I am usually on pop culture crisis here at Tim cast, but I'm happy to be back.

Right. Blessed Juneteenth. Blessed. Blessed Juneteenth. Blessed. Blessed Juneteenth to you, Tate. Thank you.

Yeah. Producer Tate here, Tate Brown. Yeah. Blessed Juneteenth had to be here for Juneteenth. I'm ready to celebrate. All right. Blessed Junate Brown. Yeah. Blessed Juneteenth had to be here for Juneteenth. I'm ready to celebrate. All right. Blessed Juneteenth to Phil. Blessed Juneteenth to everybody. It's so ridiculous. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, one anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Blessed Juneteenth to you all. Let's get into it. the DNC is in chaos and desperate for cash under its new leader, Ken Martin. The Democratic National Committee has been plagued by infighting and a drop in big donations,

raising alarms for Democrats as they try to win back power. I don't believe it could happen at this point. What is it? What do they say? Mr. Martin has still not spoken with with major donors. At the same time, he's expanded the party's financial commitments to every state and even Guam. He's trying very hard. Now, check this out from Newsweek. Disapproval of Democrats in Congress ticks upward. I was surprised to hear that disapproval could have gotten worse, but it's really bad. Democrats currently have a 21% approval rating republicans uh what do they

have republicans and this they they're like what is it uh do they have not having i guess this one's not showing republicans republicans are at like high 30s mid 40s 32 approval is that what it says for republicans yeah that's 10 that's 11 points better. I think they blew their load on champagne, the six-figure cost for Kamala's Call Her Daddy appearance, lots of parties, and they kind of just lost the plot. Juneteenth celebrations. And they gave Ken Martin a raise as soon as he started. Well.

He was quietly going to just take an extra 50k a year nice well good for them it's interesting because the argument that we have right now with trump with iran with the economy with the border is that trump's got to get it all done now otherwise democrats will win in the midterms i I'm not so convinced every every day. It's just getting worse. And I was kind of confused by this. So I asked our good AI friend, Chet GPT, why were Democrats polling so miserably? And it aggregated some sources, sources making the claim that because of the damage Joe Biden did in the last four years. People are continuing to get angry at the Democrats. It seems that the problems people

are experiencing today, they are still blaming on the Democratic Party. I suppose the argument is that when your run of the mill person tries looking into why things are inflating and costing so much money, they're not blaming Trump. They're looking at what the Democrats did in the past term. And the blame is still going to Democrats. Remarkably. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, you say remarkably, but as things have trickled out about the previous administration since the change, you know, the changeover, the American people have become very, very skeptical of the not just the Joe Biden administration, the things that the Biden administration did, but also the media that was saying, hey, Joe Biden is fine, et cetera, et cetera.

So I don't think I think that the the loss of faith in the DNC is because they were all, you know, doing their best to hide a serious condition that the president had. Well, I think they also have a man problem, which is fairly obvious. And they're trying slowly to recover from that. But every time that a man in the Democratic Party has an idea of how to fix that problem and appeal to men, they shout him down and instead want to listen to this ham planet, Olivia Juliana, what she has to say as part of the consultant class. Gavin Newsom is trying to fix the problem with this podcast. I don't know how that's going for him.

And then this guy, Ken Martin, I think this was a couple of weeks ago, like Politico found this leaked audio where he was talking with. Yeah, I think this is something covered yeah he was like infighting with david hogg and he was saying like david hogg was the reason why he doesn't feel like he could do this anymore like how much of a little bitch do you have to be for david hogg to to david mog you he is an alpha male david hogg he is he is pathetic seriously you're speaking to multiple problems though not only do they have a deficit of leadership but they have a deficit of actual He is an alpha male, David Hogg. He is. He is. Pathetic. Seriously. You're speaking to multiple problems, though. Not only do they have a deficit of leadership, but they have a deficit of actual plans when it comes to— Well, that, yeah.

But plans when it comes to what to actually do. Like, what is the Democrat Party now? Are the progressives in charge or are the old guards in charge? If the old guards are in charge, then they likely can make up any kind of uh donation deficit that they're experiencing now if the progressives are in charge they're not going to get the same kind of donations they're going to have to rely on the small donations from like people on the street you know uh or not people you know not the big donors because the big donors aren't going to donate to the democrats so that way the progressives pass laws that hurt the big Democrats.

One piece of this was that Alex Soros is ghosting the DNC right now. I mean, why wouldn't he? But then they're not even attempting to talk to major donors like him, which is a puzzle. I don't think the progressives are. Are they waiting until next year? They're in charge. The progressives seem to be in charge of the policies that the DNC is focusing on. Look at the reaction to the stuff about the trans decision in Tennessee just from yesterday.

That is such a, again, a 90-10 issue. And that's what they're spending their time focusing on for the past three, four hours. Honestly, it should not be a states' rights issue. It shouldn't be allowed at all. It should be federally banned to cut children's dicks off. But again, so they lost the smallest amount of ground and they're wigging out. Because that's what the progressives in the in the party focus on that stuff the really crazy ass you know so until they get that straightened out

they're not going to be able to find good leadership because the leader has to actually believe in to some degree and what they're what they're what they're leading for i think the democratic party is going to go the way of Bud Light. I think you're right. Bud Light's never recovered. They lost a third of their market share and have stood there ever since. You know, I know they've sponsored UFC and they've tried to turn this around, but it's just not happening. Same thing with Target.

These companies have not recovered from when they went woke and got broke. The DNC's brand is tarnished. So younger people who are now entering the political space, and I don't mean 17-year-olds who are turning 18. I mean 28-year-olds who are going to be entering their 30s soon. They're now starting to get politically active. And they're like, I don't want to be associated with whatever that is. Those people are nuts.

There's the flashy issues like the trans issue, which, of course, put people off. And I mean, the activists pushed those. But if you think about the most significant, let's say even just events that impacted a normal American's life over the past decade, I'd say it's probably first COVID, and then maybe second, mass migration, and then maybe third is inflation. And all three of these can be pretty squarely

laid at the feet of Democratic Party and sort of the broader managerial classes set of priorities over the past decade. You layer on things like the trans issue, and it's just very difficult for the party to navigate, to basically navigate forward something that's, they basically need to come up with something that's more compelling. It's funny because I see bumper stickers about trans issues, but not about inflation. Yes, yes. Yeah, and really what this speaks to, and actually the article shows this, which is that the donors have pulled out, which means that the activists are still in control.

And that's actually a sort of a bearish signal for the Democratic Party. And I think in a lot of ways, this is the Republicans' midterms to lose. I think the two things that could really set them back would probably be first, some sort of a war that we get entangled in. And the second would be a recession or something like that. I mean, it's our election to lose. I agree with you there. I don't know that a war, I don't know that we would get involved the to involve to the degree necessary to turn the

american people off if the economy is good right so i think the whole thing you know hangs on the economy if the economy is good i think not that i'm advocating for this but i think that the the american people would deal with a war with iran just so long as we didn't have like major major numbers of troops on the ground. If they were if they had like took a beachhead or took a place and there were Delta raids or whatever, like special forces raids. I think the American people would be OK with that. I think the American people would be OK with having strikes. And that all depends on the economy.

If the economy is crap, it doesn't matter if we do anything in Iran, because if the economy is crap, the Republicans are going to lose. It all hinges on the economy. The New York Times piece also mentioned that the union bosses are out, which is an interesting part of the narrative here. I mean, basically, the populist right or populist forces in general have shifted over into the Republican Party, into MAGA. Well, we saw the polling with, was it Teamsters, I think? Yeah. They supported Trump, but the bosses didn't. Yeah, yeah.

And I mean, in this case, though, I think it seemed like the bosses are now potentially shifting over into supporting, or at least their support for the Democrats is softening. Well, yeah, I mean, when you have the Democrats go all out against tariffs, I mean, you basically swap positions between the two parties. That's going to be a huge sticking point for union bosses that's right you would think you would think the union bosses would be at least slightly more supportive of some of the tariffs i actually think we're going to start seeing a media shift as well not super pronounced but it will be trailing the political shift when news keeps spreading i mean the new york times internally they're seeing this and they're going to be they're going to be asking themselves, what is our market share?

Now, the problem is for the the reason why the Democrats are clinging to what they're to their positions, even after even as people are jumping ship, the people who have the easiest time of abandoning the political party are going to do so right now. And the people who don't are stuck. So union bosses, it was rough. They tried sticking with it through the 24 election, but now they stuck. So union bosses, it was rough. They tried sticking with it through the 24 election, but now they're just like, okay, we're out. This is not our central focus. We're dealing with our internal organization and our union members and what they want and what's going to maximize the amount of money that we bring in, right? So when you get a poll showing the Teamsters overwhelmingly are pro-Trump, you know where your market share is and you know if you want to keep this up and you want to make money, you know what you got to do. The problem is, this is what happened to CNN.

CNN went insane anti-Trump. They, let's just say this, 10 years ago, they had 1 million dedicated audience members who wanted the news and nothing else. Just bring me the news. And their numbers were high and their ratings were good because they were getting, you know, airports and hotels. But let's just hypothetically say a million dedicated people. So they run a story about how Donald Trump is orange and smells bad. And the million people are going, okay, that's kind of a weird story. But they get two million views. Their views spike because the people who hate Trump flock to watch CNN.

CNN says, wow, look how many views we're getting. This is the path forward. So throughout the next four years, they dedicate all of their time to just saying Trump sucks. Well, the people who just wanted news left. They were like, I'm out. And now CNN's as more people are moving away from this weird anti-Trump rhetoric, Trump is more popular than ever. CNN's ratings go into the gutter. Regular people have no problem turning it off and switching to something else. CNN, however, can't just turn off that they are the orange man bad network because they have enshrined themselves. They have built up a base of 50,000 fringe lunatic anti-Trumpers. If they now try to reverse course, they'll lose that base.

And that's all they have left. So they they've they're backing themselves to court. This is what the Democratic Party has done as a whole. They had no policies. The only thing they represented was Trump sucks. One by one, donors are like, it's easy for me to leave and go somewhere else. But the Democratic politicians now have monthly giving donors. The only thing they care about is that Trump is bad. They can't walk away from it. Otherwise, they'll end up with zero dollars. You're not getting back the moderates because they think you're insane.

And now you only risk losing what wackaloons you have. Yeah, I mean, kind of like Nathan hit on where the activists are in the driver's seat. Certainly the case in media i mean every news agency period is completely filled to the brim with from the pas all the way up to the hosts are filled with activists so it's like even though the vibes so to speak are um on the right it's not going to make a dent necessarily in these in these in these companies because they're not concerned about the bottom line they're concerned about doing good by their values. And a lot of these people are-

You mean the legacy media companies? Legacy media, yeah. Yeah. That's why it was so ridiculously out of touch the other day when Trump kind of tried to get a dig in at Tucker Carlson for not having a TV network. Yeah. Like, where have you been? You knew that this was the podcast election.

That's why you were going on podcasts. Like he even talked about that with Theo Vaughn, with Joe Rogan. That was very much like a podcast election. Those were where those were the places people were going to get news opinions and learn about what was going on. And Trump knew that. So why would he change his tune overnight? Just because, I don't know, Tucker is criticizing him. He just cannot take an ounce of criticism. I do think it's strange that Tucker Carlson said the Trump administration was negotiating in good faith with Iran.

But then before that, also that Trump was complicit in this war before the U.S. even got involved. That seems contradictory. Was Trump in good faith trying to prevent a war? That's what he said to Ted Cruz. Or was he complicit in this war because of what Israel is doing? Even what Trump is saying is self-contradictory because on one hand, you were supposed to believe that this was a unilateral strike that the u.s was not involved in and perhaps was not even notified of but also we were working with them the entire time and it was all big ruse and we were trying to make them feel like they were safe just so we could strike when they were least expecting it so i don't know and then he's

telling people like don't listen to anything tulsi Gabbard says, even though you appointed her. That kind of stuff is fairly normal in the Trump administration. Yeah. He will under he will cut the legs out out of his subordinates if it is if it serves him in the moment. But at this point, he's even contradicting himself and not even just things that he said years ago, but things he said days ago. Oh, yeah, that was... And it's ridiculous seeing, like... It gives me secondhand embarrassment what the Trump... It's just like 2016.

The Trump ecosystem is saying right now, like, you're betraying Trump if you have any criticism of how he handles this situation. No, I mean, you could make a more salient argument that Trump is betraying his voters by giving them what they expressly voted for the opposite of. To be fair, Trump hasn't done anything.

He's like, give me two weeks, and nothing's happened. And I'm like, I'm seeing all this fighting online, and I'm like, Trump literally hasn't done anything. Mary, it sounds like you think something's happening. Maybe we'll see in two weeks. We'll see in two weeks. Let's jump to the story from the New York Times. Ladies and gentlemen, it is with a heavy heart that I report the White House did not celebrate Juneteenth.

I still had a blessed Juneteenth. Me too. Me too. Blessed Juneteenth. I can't believe it. What has this country come to? Now, hopefully that faux anger at Trump will get enough liberals to watch the rest of this because Juneteenth doesn't need to be celebrated at the White House. But it's more than that.

Trump says get rid of it. So Trump truthed. I love that too many nonworking holidays in America. It is costing our country billions of dollars to keep all these businesses closed. The workers don't want it either. Soon we'll end up having a holiday for every once working day of the year. It must change if we're going to make America great again. In other words, he's saying ban Juneteenth or stop recognizing it. But if you're wondering why you couldn't go to the bank or the post office today, it's because we're celebrating Juneteenth. I didn't notice

that. The top trend on Google is, quote, what is Juneteenth? And here's what I really love about it. There's this Newsweek article. Kroger responds after Georgia Juneteenth cakes go viral. So how do I get this stupid TikTok? That cake looks terrible. There you go. Where's the audio? Who the hell made these ugly asses?une 19th free okay i wish it was a manager here because y'all decorate everything else around here cute like what you want to just throw something on a freaking cookie cake and expect someone to buy it? Yes. That's bullshit.

It says free. You can take it for free. What the fuck? Free at last. Free? Really? Who the fuck cares about this? That means you don't have to pay for it. Just take it. Congratulations. One of them just said congratulations. This is what Abraham Lincoln

envisioned. Beautiful. Oh man, that's amazing. Everything I learned about Juneteenth has been against my will, I will say that. I'm pro-Juneteenth. I'm seeing a bunch of people tweeting like, no, it's bad. And I was like, we're celebrating. I mean, if we want to be very serious, it's the union's victory.

It's the end of slavery. We can be like, yeah, sure, why not? But guys, today is the day that we commemorate the sacrifices of the Republican Party, how hundreds of thousands of good Republican men died to stop the evil racist Democrats. Did you know that even after the Civil War ended, Democrats still had slaves? Unbelievable. That's Juneteenth commemorates the day Union soldiers went to Texas and found a couple of Democrats that kept slaves after it was already abolished. So it's a holiday where we're like the Republicans got rid of Democrat slaves. Yeah, I think the the cake story is actually illustrative of part of the problem that some people have with the holiday, which is that there's something cynical about the elevation of it during the Biden presidency. Yeah.

I think it was the first federal holiday added since MLK Day, and somebody can check that. But it's a part of a more consistent pattern of basically Democratic leaders who have this beholden faction here in America. And rather than doing anything meaningful for the black community in America, throwing them sort of a vague holiday once in a while, right? And so I think, and just like the cakes, right, it's, it's, there's a critique of it that it lacks substance. And, and, and, and I think that that's a part of the story here. I'll say this with all seriousness. The reason why there's a backlash is that it's a fake holiday. And I'll say it again. It's a fake holiday. Now, I know that there are people going to get mad. They're going to say the black community celebrates Juneteenth. That's fine if they do. The point is, when you enshrine a federal holiday for a country

that doesn't know what it is, it's not a it's not a real holiday in the sense that there's a cultural tradition where a nation comes together entirely as a nation to say today is a day where we will celebrate something. So, as Trump pointed out, if we were to find every minority faction's sacred moments, you'd have a holiday every single day. And so the idea that the Biden administration is going to say a tenth of the population, you know, literally 13 percent of the population, not even 13. It might be it's probably less because not every black person celebrates Juneteenth. They're going to say there's a minority population that celebrates a holiday no one in this country has ever heard of. And we're going to elevate it.

The reason why Kroger just put free on a cookie is because they don't know what it is. What's the color scheme of Juneteenth? There's a flag. Didn't we hear? Is there not? I like the idea that it was actually a black employee that decorated the cookie cakes and doesn't know what Juneteenth is.

Well, the Juneteenth flag is like, what is it, green, black, and red? Something like that. It's the, like, and African colors, but it's on the American flag. And that's also, like, kind of the, that's kind of the nasty thing about Juneteenth. Oh, no. No, it's red, white, and blue. Is it really? the American flag. And that's also like kind of the, that's kind of the, the, the nasty thing about, Oh no,

no, it's red, white and blue. Is it really? Yeah. Oh, the nasty thing about Juneteenth, I think what leaves a bad taste on a lot of people's mouth is because it kind of came at the same time when the NFL started doing the black national anthem.

And it really felt like there was a secondary independence day. And I remember speaking to a lot of my black friends that are like, we already have, and like, this is for everyone, Independence Day. So adding a secondary Independence Day felt a bit redundant. Do we have Thanksgiving flags? No.

I want to make one. I want to put a turkey on a flag. That'd be nice. Simple. There you go. But I'm just like, why is there a Juneteenth flag? Do we have other flags for holidays? No. There's no Christmas flag. I haven't seen one. There's no? No. There's no Christmas flag. I haven't seen one.

There's no Christmas flag. There's no Thanksgiving flag. I mean, Christmas predates flags, I guess, or in some case. Hot Topic could make Halloween flags. They could put Jack Skellington on it. They could. But I mean, argue. Jack Skellington is actually black.

You just don't know because he doesn't have skin. It could just be the Canadian flag. That's scary. Arguably, the July 4th is the American flag. But other than that, no. There are no... St. Patrick's Day. They get the Irish flag.

That's just beer, though. It should be a federal holiday. I need that day off. To what you were saying, Nathan, I don't think that black Americans care about meaningful policy change that actually helps them. They just want money. That's 77% of them, I i just checked that support reparations they just want money and probably also holidays and lip service yeah i mean i mean trump did so much to try to pander

with the platinum plan and and they don't care pardon kodak black i think pardoning kodak Black. Yeah, pardoning Kodak Black. Yeah, I mean, obviously, in a democratic electoral system, all factions are looking to basically solve for what's in their interest. And what's in their interest will sort of vary from faction to faction. And yeah, I think there is some truth to the fact that I don't know how many people were demanding for this holiday from that faction. I don't know. Yeah. I'm just saying the majority, the vast majority of black Americans, they just want cash.

They just want free money for being black. Well, I just checked 77 percent of them. They just want cash in the mail because they're black. Yes. But what I would preface that with, you offer anybody free money, why would they turn it down? You know what I mean?

So when the Democrats are coming out and being like, oh, we have to give reparations, I mean, black people are going to be like, okay, give me money. What? Like, if you're going to come out and you're going to say it, why not? I mean, would you accept reparations

for, I don't even know. For my Japanese ancestors being interned in this country? Wouldn't you feel a little bit like it was dirty money that didn't really belong to you? Maybe. It's being stolen from taxpayers who earned it with their work. I probably wouldn't spend it. Right now, I wouldn't advocate for it. Right after the check came in the mail, I probably wouldn't even notice. Like right now, if a check, I wouldn't advocate for it. Right after a check came in the mail, I probably wouldn't even notice and I'd just ignore it.

And would there be a holiday for that, like the sushi cake or something? I'm just saying, you know, if that were a real policy plan. They did pay reparations to Japanese Americans. I didn't know that. My plan was to seize all the federal land from the Bureau of Land Management and use that to give the land to the black Americans who were owed it. Does anybody disagree? Why should the federal government control like 40 percent of the land of this country under federal regulation. And, you know, this came up with the Bundy Ranch scenario where they were ranching for generations. And the federal government came in and said, we hereby declare the land belongs to the federal government.

And then it led to the standoff. I'm like, all that land is just owned by the federal government. The people can't have it. They just laid claim to it. You can't buy it. There we go. There's an argument in the – or going on about the Big Beautiful Bill and some publicly owned lands going private and doing developments. And there's some people that are really upset about that. I mean the concern is like it's not going to go to just private ranchers.

It's going to go to BlackRock inevitably. Yeah, of course. Bill Gates, et cetera, et cetera. So it's like, yeah, it sounds nice to privatize this land, but it's not going to go to people that are actually going to use it. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds nice to privatize this land, but it's not going to go to people that are actually going to use it. Yeah. Oh, someone pointed out that the original Juneteenth flag was the black nationalist flag. Oh, that's good.

That's nice. I will say, too, I grew up in Memphis, and if you know anything about Memphis, it's a very black city. Never heard of Juneteenth in my entire life until like four years ago. It all started like four years ago yeah five years ago now like 2020 it was like when all like things started getting weird in 2012 and then 2020 things just went bonkers i would suspect real quick correction that's not correct that the original flag is this one from 97 but people do have a uh it's yellow red what is this let me open a picture of it they They're currently now selling this on Amazon. And that's like Pan-African colors or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. Change the yellow to white, you get the Palestinian flag. Which is also the colors of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. What do you know? Go figure. Did you know that, Mary? No.

Yeah. What is it? Red, green, black, and white? Yeah, that makes sense. Those are the colors of the four horsemen of the apocalypse? Mm-hmm. That's weird. What, that there's colors?

No, it's those colors. And it's the same colors as the Palestinian flag. It's just weird. You know. Yeah, in the Middle East, they all cheat on each other's homework they all have the same flag they just throw a little seal on it to change it up so the teacher doesn't notice i guess juneteenth all right let's jump to this next story from cnn we have an update

ladies and gentlemen this is the craziest story uh i've seen in a long time. Let me just lay it down for you. Liberals organized a massive protest, the No Kings protest. In Utah, volunteer peacekeepers associated with the organizing group, which is called the 50501 movement, started shooting into a crowd of people and killed a guy. Let me say this for you again. I know that y'all who watch the show have seen us talk about it. But for some reason, this story died instantly. And I don't know why every single conservative isn't just coming out and freaking out about it. Calling them out.

Let me say it again. These are not far leftists. These are liberal protest organizers for no kings shot and killed a guy. He was legally carrying a rifle. He did nothing as far as we can tell. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now the news reports that we have in the video we've seen, he's just walking down the sidewalk, open carrying. Two peacekeepers draw. They yell at him.

And then in the video, you can see before the dude even reacts to what they're saying, one of the guys opens fire, firing three rounds at this dude, missing him and killing a random guy. The crazy thing about this story is the police arrested that guy. And they called him the shooter. But now CNN's reporting it. Utah, no King's protest. What we know about the fatal shooting. And so this is the latest update newly released video

appears to show the man arrested on suspicion of murder for the death of an innocent bystander no king's protest was uh saturday walking away with his rifle pointing down moments before a volunteer peacekeeper opened fire in his direction according to kstu that's somebody's phone no the bystander arthur falasa alu was shot and killed by a peacekeeper who was aiming for the man with the rifle, believing him to be an imminent threat. I'm just going to say it right now. We've talked about it with the law of self-defense, gentlemen, and Branca. But there's imperfect self-defense. But I don't even know how you play this up of there was

a guy walking down the street with a rifle. So you shot him because you were scared. Yeah, that's, I don't see how you can, at least the way that it's laid out here. I don't see how you can consider anything else. Well, yeah, they say they ordered Gamboa to drop the weapon before one opened fire on protesters. Witnesses reported Gamboa was holding the rifle in a firing position and running towards the protesters after being confronted by the peacekeepers. No, I think he just grabbed it and started running away from the guys who were shooting at him for no reason. Now, what's really crazy is this. Panic spreads throughout the area. Everybody runs for safety. Peacekeeper fires three rounds,

fatally wounding Alou and shooting Gamboa, who got a graze wound. They say detectives have developed probable cause that Gamboa acted under circumstances that showed a depraved indifference to human life,

knowingly engaged in conduct that created a grave risk. They're covering up for the fact that liberal protest organizers shot and killed a guy. They say he remains in custody. So they basically point out that after the peacekeepers with the 50501 movement opened fire,

people started pointing to the Antifa guy with the rifle. So the cops arrested him. And now I think the police are helping the Democrats cover this up. I mean, it sounds the that's the case um it just it just proves the point that the the no kings protest it really isn't a serious protest it's a basically a pre-planned media circus and any sort of narratives that don't align with the pre-planned narrative about the no kings protest are sidelined and of course i mean cnn is at least running this a story about it here but i haven't really seen much much at all about

about it up to this point and and the way it's told is is somewhat biased and this is even cnn kind of post post reform uh but i mean the things that should also be mentioned about the no kings protest is that i mean it was it was old pretty much everywhere where it was where there were gatherings and there's this general incompetence about the people too right i mean just randomly firing missing um when i mean these these people are they're basically not serious and in some ways it's actually a very different sort of of protest versus what we've seen in la with the with the uh the migrants who are protesting out there where that feels much more serious much more violent in nature um this this one on the other hand this feels like this it's a bunch of boomers going out

for a walk and um i don't know somebody who shouldn't even had a firearm most likely firing yeah i would like to say you know people have talked about abolishing various institutions and organizations but can i just say abolish cnn i can say that i'm going to tell you why here's what they here's what they say uh new video obtained by kstu shows a different angle of the shooting challenging the original narrative police first said witnesses reported gamboa pointing his rifle and ran at demonstrators after peacekeepers told him to drop his weapon but the new video appears to show gamboa's rifle pointing toward the ground and he doesn't start running until after the peacekeeper fires his gun. The video also shows Gamboa jogging along the protest route and then

ducking behind a fence, a move the peacekeeper told detectives he found suspicious. Gamboa can be seen on video through the slats of the fence and it appears he bends down. Police have said he removed his rifle from his backpack. The rifle cannot be seen in this video. CNN has not independently obtained or verified the newly released video. It's on X. You can just watch it. There's numerous videos. They've zoomed in.

They've edited it. It is wild for CNN to be like, a week later, we still haven't watched the video that's been on X for a week. It might be AI, though. Sure. But think about the type of lunatic you have to be to volunteer as a peacekeeper at the No Kings protest. These are people who are George Zimmerman on steroids, overly eager. I mean, they're crazy like they probably wanted to end up in an altercation like that

that's the problem with these protests is that it's the highest congregation of people with like low impulse control and emotionality in America so they're fired up they're bored and they just want to get out they're just waiting there's adrenaline pumping they're just like oh there's a Nazi get him and it's like what do you think is going to happen you're going to get out. They're just waiting. There's adrenaline pumping. They're just like, oh, there's a Nazi.

Get him. And it's like, what do you think is going to happen? You're going to get a situation like this. It was inevitable. I was actually kind of surprised it took so long. They've raised $415,000 on GoFundMe for this guy. And I say, okay. He's a poor guy, dude.

He's just walking down the street minding his own business. And some liberal dude with an itchy finger just opens fire. And he had nothing to do with the Antifa guy. No, no. This is a random guy. He's just walking down the street. I mean, the guy that was shot. This is the guy who was shot and killed.

The guy who was missed. Yeah. So so the Antifa guy got grazed. They both got hit. But he got a graze when this guy got shot and killed. Yep. Unbelievable. Here's my question.

Why aren't conservatives talking about it? Yeah, I'm just going to say this. I'm surprised conservatives are as far as they've gotten in the culture war. Seriously, like the left makes these videos. You know what? Never mind. I'm wrong about everything. Conservatives are winning. OK, keep doing it. I guess we start to make some progress and then Elon Musk drops like, by the the way the president should be impeached and he's a pedophile so it's like anytime you actually make some progress it just turns into uh just eating your own step forward two steps back yeah exactly so it's like that's just our tendency we're it's like crabs in a pot so it's like yeah we could seize on this but there's a great battle going on on twitter that i got to get involved in so well what is it

that the republicans are mostly paying attention to now? It's Israel and Iran. And it's dividing the right. Yeah. Hilariously. Yeah, it seems to me right now, at least, that just a week or two ago, we had this divide between the populist right and the tech right that was emerging over this feud between Elon and Trump.

But that's almost completely forgotten at this point. And now the fight is between the isolationists and the neocons. And the question is, will this be as easily resolved? Because unless Trump can find some sort of a middle path, he's going to leave one side or the other unhappy. And so I think that the risk here from a coalitional perspective is maybe even more significant than the divide that we saw between Trump and Elon. Do you think that Iran can do it without the United States' help? Do you think Iran can do it?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Israel can do it, can take care of Iran without the U.S. help? I think that Israel has currently, I mean, Israel has started the war. Because they claim to be able to do it. Israel currently, I think, has an asymmetry in terms of the technology and the military capabilities that it has versus Iran. And so I think it's possible that they could do it themselves. I think if the U.S. were not defending Israel, they'd probably be in serious trouble.

And there's questions—we talked about this the other night, but I was watching more, again more again on Fox that Israel is starting to run out of interceptors. So we'll see where that goes. But in regards to, I guess, the coalition and the left and what conservatives are paying attention to, you know, maybe what ends up happening to the Democratic Party is that it really does turn into moderate MAGA versus conservative MAGA or something. What do you mean by that? You're going to have, there's going to be moderate neocon and disaffected liberal types. And then you're going to have the staunch conservative anti-war, like basically the left is excised in its entirety. And you're going to start seeing liberals becoming disaffected with the Democratic Party as we are

joining the Republicans, which will create a new left-right dichotomy where you have the left wing of the Republican Party and the right wing of the Republican Party. And that sets the tone for the new political landscape. I mean, do you already kind of see it with the Tucker Cruz interview where you're seeing people on the left like, I hate to say it, but Tucker's a great, you know, he's doing, he did a great interview here. I got to take his side. So it's like, yeah, we're already kind of seeing the left filter into the rights positions on these issues. And yeah, there could be a point in the next few years at this rate where, yeah, they're just completely out of the picture and they have to take sides with the current Republican dichotomy. Here's a story from

mediaites. Trump ally Laura Loomer escalates MAGA civil war with wild claim, Tucker is controlled by Muslims. So it's getting spicy. And you've got this, what do they say? The Washington Examiner's Robert Schmad reported on Qatar's big dollar efforts in May, writing perhaps Qatar's biggest victory in the post-election right-wing media campaign thus far was securing an interview between Tucker Carlson and Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani in March. The interview, which has racked up nearly six million views across X and YouTube, was friendly, with Carlson praising the country. Shmad added,

Qatar paid top dollar to ensure this interview took place. Foreign Agent Registration Act records show that Lumen8 Advisors, LLC, a legal consulting company for which very little public information is available, helped facilitate between Carlson and the Qatari dignitary. The embassy of the state of Qatar pays Lumen 8 Advisors $180,000 per month to provide media and communication coaching and consulting services. Lumer took that report a step further, claiming Carlson's interview with PM Al-Thani was a paid propaganda piece in which over $200,000 was paid by the embassy of the state of Qatar for Tucker to the interview. A Qatari official, all while knowing Hamas is an Iranian proxy and funded by Qatar. Loomer basically laid out that Tucker was getting this money.

She said Tucker's in an interview with Steve Bannon saying he was never paid. And she said he was a liar and then showed this. The insinuation, of course, is that Tucker was given $200,000. But this has been the narrative that's emerging largely not just from Laura Loomer, but from many that are pro-Israel and critical of those who are Israel critical, is that Qatar has been funding them. Now, I don't think Tucker Carlson got paid. I think when you look at this, you can see there's a foreign lobbying group, probably reached out to Tucker and said, how can we make this happen? But Lord did make a good point. Who's paying all the travel and production costs? Is there any of that going on? Because what is the point of hiring a far a lobbying firm to facilitate an interview. You wouldn't need to do it.

You'd simply just, you're a government. You reach out to the agency or the network and you say, we'd like to sit down with Tucker Carlson. So what did Luminate actually do in exchange for this money? Interesting question. I will also add, come on, look, I get people like tweeting at me,

like Elijah Schaefer, he tweeted at me because Theo Vaughn went to Qatar and then comes back and then says he thinks Israel's committing a genocide. I point that out and then get accused of claiming he's getting paid by Qatar to do so. Well, no, but I mean, what was his trip? What access was he given? It's right there. I don't know if anything's going on with Qatar funding or paying anybody or anything like that. But this is the current divide right now with a threat of war. You have this narrative now going more mainstream, particularly with Laura Loomer, that Qatar is paying a bunch of conservatives to be anti-Israel. I mean, does she have evidence of any of that stuff or is she just like throwing accusations? I think everybody's just throwing accusations. But to be fair, paid? Well, a lot of these writers are using clever language. They'll say Cutter paid $200,000 for an interview with Tucker Carlson, not to Tucker Carlson for an interview. So look, if I, if I, we do, we do

stage shows and we have a media company that comes in and sets up all the cameras and does all the work and we pay for that. So if someone said Tim Pool paid, you know, insert celeb, you know, paid X amount of dollars for an interview with insert celebrity, it's like, no, no, no, that was a production company, but that's how you can use weasel words to make it seem like that however evidence not proof i mean the ovan did go to cutter and like is like he's got that video of him wearing the local garb or whatever and then he comes back and says israel's i think is just coming to genocide it was a really wishy-washy statement it was like non-committal and now he's very much in the anti-intervention camp i'm not saying he's being paid and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with going to a country and then being convinced of something i'm just saying like yo that's one plus one equals two yeah yeah it's weird like how

she's paying this like the conclusion like you can't come to tucker's conclusion unless you're being paid by a foreign government like the conclusion that we shouldn't go to war with iran only someone crazy could come with that so they must have paid them it's like kind of a crazy implication i mean sort of that's kind of standard stuff when it comes to this topic like if you disagree with someone there's a reason and it's almost always you're some you're somehow being paid by someone involved whether it be qatar or whether it be the Israelis. If you like one of the things that people default to when you say, well, no, I don't I don't agree because of this. If you if you see the things that I see and you don't come to the conclusion that I come

to, then you must be doing it because you're paid. So that's the and that happens on both like that happens all the time with both Qatar and with Israel. The foreign trips are, are interesting. I mean, in the election season, right, it came up that Tim Waltz had been to China 30 times or something like that. And so I do think whenever there's these sorts of foreign trips, I think there should be questions asked of public figures in general, just who are they meeting with or what sorts of funding, what sorts of funds are being exchanged. But yeah, the Qatar thing here, it doesn't seem like there's a ton that's substantiated, at least at this point. I do think it's interesting that there's a lot of personalities that have, in the past couple of years, maybe even the past year or so,

gone very heavy anti-Israel very quickly. I mean, it does feel like it's a bit of a, it's like the edgy, it's like a containment breach, because this next generation of political pundits are just completely allergic to any foreign intervention in the Middle East, rightfully so, because it's been such a disaster. And yeah, obviously going to ask questions of what were the incentives for us to go into the Middle East. But at the same time, when they just completely fixate on Israel, yeah, you do start to ask questions like, well, it's weird that they did visit countries that are extremely adversarial to Israel, and then they walk away with this new agenda.

That being said, on the flip side, if you watch the interview with Ted Cruz, I mean, Tucker wasn't picking on Israel. He was just saying, let's not go to war with iran he was he was picking on ted cruz yeah it was like literally a struggle session and like ted cruz is like he's generally very good in interviews even combative interviews so it was like you know that it was totally like just at like that's only if he's in a combative interview with someone from the left. But when he is getting attacked from the right of him, he can't respond. No, he felt like he took a knife in the side.

And I got a question for you guys because there was one exchange that I thought was really weird. And that was the issue of the Bible says, we, you know, blessed are those who bless Israel and cursed are those who curse Israel. And Tucker's point was, the Bible doesn't literally mean the current political state of Israel, does it? And Ted Cruz said, yes. are those who bless Israel and cursed are those who curse Israel. And Tucker's point was, the

Bible doesn't literally mean the current political state of Israel, does it? And Ted Cruz said, yes. Is that the case? I'm not a Christian, so I don't know. I mean, yeah, I'm a Christian, and you could go into all the theology, but the divide is dispensationalism versus covenant theology, and a lot of evangelicals subscribe to dispensationalism, which is every promise that God made to Israel is literal. He is talking about the current state of Israel. And people that subscribe to covenant theology say, well, when Paul addresses the church and calls them Israel in the New Testament and 1 Corinthians, he's saying that the church has basically absorbed all of the promises made to Israel. So it's a big divide in

the church, but what's driving the Christian Zionism movement is that dispensational interpretation of the Old Testament covenants. This is still a different argument. Well, I mean, yeah. So what Ted Cruz is saying, like, oh, well, it literally says that it's because he has a dispensational theology. He's saying, no, it says right there, it's Israel. And then someone that describes the covenant theology says, no, Christians replaced Israel. We are now Israel. Those promises apply to the church. Is that what you think Tucker is saying when he brings that up? Yeah. Tucker subscribes to covenant theology. I think he's an Episcopalian. And he actually did

a whole podcast with a theologian about covenant theology and dispensationalism. It's a big divide in the church, typically divides reformed Protestants to evangelical Protestants it's mainly because Protestants just look at the Bible and decide what they want it to mean alright relax we don't need a debate we'll save that for culture war but well there's a lot of Catholics that have dispensational theology

that's true too it's a theological divide that crosses sex so to speak I know that So it's a theological divide that crosses sex, so to speak. I know that. Yeah, yeah. Dispensationalism, it's very common in megachurches. Like your Joel Osteen types, they're very big on it because it's very literal.

It's like there's a verse where it says like, oh, God is going to, you know, you can build up treasures in heaven. So they're like, treasures, that must mean money. How do I get richer? Maybe I should go to Joel Osteen's church. And it's like, meanwhile, Jesus is like, by the way, if you follow me, you're going to get poor. That's just kind of how this works. But they kind of stiff arm that. Yeah, it's a big problem.

Yeah. What's it called when they say, if you do this, you'll get money? Prosperity gospel. That's it. Prosperity gospel. You'll get money? Yeah. I like that one.

It's a very uniquely American Christianity too because it blends what makes America great with what makes Christianity great and the result is something very nasty and awful. It's a type of Protestantism. I mean, it's kind of gyrated out of Protestantism. It's non-denominationalism and it's in the name, non-denominational. They're not part of a denomination. It's just kind of a free-for-all and the pastor gets up and he gives like a ted talk and they play like rock songs and nothing there resembles church it kind of resembles like lollapalooza a little more oh yeah it's a big disaster uh how you feeling mary

i mean yeah you know you know how i feel that. I'm just watching you squirm. Shiver me timbers. These heathens. But somehow, if you're Ted Cruz, you extrapolate from that that you should take money from APAC. Yeah, that's literally how it works. How much is he taking from APAC? Christians are the chosen people. It's true.

Fact check true. Read 1 Corinthians. It says very explicitly. Does it really? Yeah. It says specifically the church has been grafted into Israel. Ah, okay. So not the current 1947 UN charter.

That's why Christians don't follow the old law. I mean, yeah. I don't want to mix, what is it, linen with wool or whatever. You go to hell for that. Isn't that the most stereotypical new atheist rebuttal that they're like, but you eat shellfish. You're not a real Christian. I don't even know how to respond to something so stupid.

Why does bad thing happen? That's definitely the top rebuttal. That's the one that I want answered most that would be a two hour long podcast probably yeah that has to be a culture war I guess the problem is you're approaching from good faith typically people that ask that question are approaching from bad

faith like it's some gotcha it's just the left doing it then Richard Dawkins yeah you're a genius I figured it out yo Ted Cruz is wrong okay Israel's right here look see this Yeah, you're a genius. I figured it out. What'd you do? Yo, Ted Cruz is wrong. Okay? Israel's right here.

Look. It's true. See this? Israel? Is this somewhere in middle America? Israel's right here. Where are we? And if we're going to be literal.

Next to fellows. Okay. Then this is like three hours away from us. Okay. When the war broke out and they're like, Palestine's getting bombed, I was like, didn't they just have a chemical spill? They're going through a lot over there in East Palestine. If we're going to take it literally, then does that include Israel, West Virginia? I'd say Americans are the chosen people. Oh, wait.

What is it called? Dispensationalism? Dispensationalism, yeah. Okay, so if that is the argument that it's a literal reference to the people of Israel, and so that includes today, then there's going to be a subset of that, which would mean, right, because they're obviously going to make the argument that, no, no, obviously the Jewish people are the people of Israel, and that's where they were, and that's where they are, so that counts, right? So then there's going to be a subset where it says, no, no, it literally means Israel, but we choose what Israel is.

It's true. There used to be like up until like the 1950s, I even had relatives that were involved in this movement. It was called British Israelism. And they basically believed that the inhabitants of the British Isles were a lost tribe that migrated there. And it was actually like ubiquitous, not ubiquitous, but it had a lot of people that adhered to that in America and England and Canada. So it's like the black Israelite movement for British people?

Yeah, literally. And it was a big thing. It drove a lot of Freemason ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if a few founding fathers identified with British Israelism. It was a really big, really big movement. Yeah, so I would make the argument that West Virginia is actually the holy land.

I think there's a good argument for that. West Virginia. That's why I take me home. I mean, do they have cookout in Jerusalem? I don't think so. Doesn't sound very holy to me. I mean, I imagine they do. They have nicer weather in Jerusalem, don't they?

I've been there a few times, yeah. Kind of dry like California. Oh, you've been to Jerusalem? Does that mean you're being paid by Israel? It's true, yeah. Any take that I have is actually fed to me by He's Mossad. But, yeah. If you've been to a country, you're

clearly getting paid by their government. I've also been to Qatar, so I'm actually kind of in the middle. I've been to China, so I'm a CCP shill. You've been to China? Yeah. I didn't know that either. Yeah. I won't elaborate. So maybe I can be the mediator between Loomer and Tucker. Like, guys, I've been to both. I'm getting paid by both. Let's come come together here perfect i'm together i think you should try

let's jump to the story ladies and gentlemen actual news breaking trump will make decision over next step in iran within the next two weeks now what's going on with the next two weeks why does he need that much time okay well well the white house says it could take a couple of weeks for Iran to produce a nuclear weapon. So Trump is basically saying, like, maybe we'll sit back and wait to see if they get a nuclear weapon. Interestingly, this is also how much time it's expected to take for the USS Nimitz to get into the region. So maybe Trump was just sitting there and they were like, we need the Nimitz in the region for security purposes. If you make a move now, you know, we're going to be lacking. So why don't we just wait?

And he's like, OK, let's maybe the actually in all seriousness, the scary thing is maybe the whole negotiating play where he's like, I want to negotiate is to hold off make me think that the strike that they're intending on is more than just a strike. If they're like, oh, we have to move more assets into position, then it's not just B-2s with 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs, right? This is moving significantly more manpower into the area if they're waiting for a whole carrier strike group there's two there now if i understand correctly and they're waiting for a third that's a lot well it tracks trump's negotiation strategy which is maximum pressure i mean if anyone read the art of the deal you'd know what's going on no i mean i i but the point the point being like i i'm totally down with with you know that kind of posture um but if it was like if it was only

going to be just a a strike to take out the uh the this one installation or whatever you wouldn't need three carrier groups and i don't know that two of them are in the eastern mediterranean so that's more of a defensive posture but moving this carrier strike group oh they're not in in the red sea anymore uh i think one is in the red sea one is in the eastern mediterranean regardless it's still a lot of a lot of uh distance from iran but yeah this third carrier strike group is positioning in a bit more of an offensive posture. So, yeah, basically just ratcheting up the pressure in Iran. I mean, Tim, what do you think? I mean, does anything ever happen?

That's not a question for me. It's a question for Mary. Mary, does anything ever happen? The answer is no. It's always going to be no. So then there's not going to be a strike or there isn't? That's no strike, right? No strike.

No, we'll check back in two weeks. No strike. I think in the long back in two weeks. No strike. I think in the long run Israel loses. I hope nothing happens. I hope we all hope. So do you think Israel loses? Yeah, I think Israel's... I'd make the argument that if you're doing any kind of meaningful math,

then Israel's lost now. And what I mean by that is, let's say you're looking at your bank account and you got 10 grand in it. You know what I mean? Like, I got 10 grand in my bank account. And then you look at your monthly liabilities and it's, you know, 1,730

and your income is only 750. You're going to be like, oh crap. Okay, I only got a few months left before I go negative. That's what I see with the situation with Israel and the reason why I think that they want to do this attack now. I don't know that has anything necessarily to do with nuclear weapons. They claim it does, but there's nothing to consider in that sentiment for Israel is rapidly declining, rapidly. And they seem completely

incapable of doing anything about it. Their marketing, their PR, and their efforts are so pathetic that I'm just like, okay, in 10 years, the U.S. will completely cut off Israel. The right is largely, we shouldn't be funding Israel, Israel's going to do what they want. The left hates Israel. And then you've got a component on the right that hates Israel too. So I'm looking at the math and I'm just like, yeah, they're not going to have any U S money. This,

this is, this is bad news for them. They're making this move out around now because if they wait any longer, the U S is going to cut them off and then they can't. So they have no choice. Yeah. Their political capital has an expiration date. And then also like within internal politics in Israel, like Netanyahu is on the hot seat right now. He's outflanked to the right. He's outflanked to the left. They have a huge demographic crisis because the Hasidic population like triples every 10 years. So they're going to have a situation in 30 years where they're going to like have serious demands for a much more theocratic government right now. They kind of the secular government. So yeah, like you said, I mean, they have a limited amount of political

capital and that political capital is an expiration date on it that is rapidly approaching. I think what you're seeing on the right today at least is that more and more people though are asking that any intervention could be explicitly tied back to some sort of a cost benefit analysis for American citizens. And so if that's what you're solving for, is for what's in the best interest for the prosperity and security of American citizens, then there's sort of a spectrum of basically potential different pathways you could go down. And the base case for the United States is something like no intervention. And then there's a sliding scale, basically, where there's

some negotiations, and then there's some aid, arms, you go all the way down to boots on the ground, or regime change, etc, etc. And I think increasingly on the right, at each of those different points on the spectrum, people are asking the cost benefit, the cost benefit question specifically. And, and I think what, what's, what makes this challenging is we have people like, like Lindsey Graham, for example, who, you know, very recently basically made the claim. I believe this was on Twitter where he said, you know, first Iran will get nukes, they'll nuke Israel, and then they'll nuke America. And really what that's doing is in the base case scenario, in the no intervention side, he's elevating the perceived cost of no intervention, basically. But what I would argue is people on the right have been sort of gaslit on this issue a number of times. If you think about Lindsey Graham specifically said the exact same thing about Putin, where he said first Putin would go into Ukraine,

then he'd take Europe, and then he would land on America's shores. And in my case, I'm not a specific Israel-Iran expert, right? I don't actually know what the exact chances are that Iran will nuke New Jersey. But, you know, Lindsey Graham already played those cards when he claimed that Putin was going to do an amphibious assault on Connecticut, which was never reasonable. And so I think then you add in also Iraq, Afghanistan, the Vietnam War, all of these things. And I think people on the right, it's reasonable to be skeptical when these people sort of bang the same sets of arguments. Now, it might be that we need to, there might need to be some aid or negotiations or things like this that would end up being in the best interest of Americans. But it's really important that we fixate on American citizen interests as the core thing we're solving for here.

I was just, you know, I was just thinking about how we were talking before about Qatar, the accusations that they're funding all this influential operation. Israel's got money. Why wouldn't they be doing the same thing? So if it is the case that Qatar is funding a bunch of sentiment opposed to Israel, and we do know that like Al Jazeera plus was super woke. The issue is why isn't Israel doing the same thing? And more importantly, why aren't they winning? Let's look at it this way. Let's say that there's a bunch of foreign adversaries that are flooding U.S. social media.

This is what this is. This is the more legitimate accusation, in my opinion, that you've got people in, say, Pakistan. They create social media accounts where they masquerade as Americans, and then will spam blast people's feeds. And this is like one guy, it's like literally not a campaign, not, it's literally a guy in Pakistan, and he's like, I'm an American. And this is largely why many people have called for Elon to create a nation filter so we can only get tweets from Americans. And then I tweeted something similar. Why aren't the Western powers that support Israel doing the exact same thing with sock puppets? Why aren't they creating a counter narrative that Israel is the victim, that Israel should win?

How is it that Israel is losing the PR game? Well, how do you know they're not? Well, OK, then the reality is they're weak and pathetic. Well, I think they're also dependent on the goodwill of previous generations where it was kind of a consensus, especially among political wonks, that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East we have to support this, and it was a given. So I don't even know if they had a media apparatus to whirl up in time

for a situation like this where within 10 years the wind completely blew the... No, i'm saying like the u.s has engaged in sock puppetry before right they did in the arab spring so there's there's no like i'll put it this way if there's a bunch of countries that hate israel and their citizens are spam blasting social media saying like don't support israel where are the individuals who support israel to counter that message they don't seem to exist where are the individuals who support Israel to counter that message? They don't seem to exist. Well, yeah, I mean, you definitely see the, what are they, the fellas on Twitter,

the little dogs that are supporting Ukraine. And you really don't see a similar, you know, an analogous organization that's supporting Israel, though. There are certainly a lot of prominent personalities that are pro-israel yeah but those are a lot of politicians they're not the same kind of sock puppets that you're talking about those i'm talking about grassroots and whether whether real or fake i don't care i'm saying israel is and its allies and the west and the west are incapable of countering the narrative that has emerged around gaza and israel incapable i think i think it's a good point i think there is there is sort of are incapable of countering the narrative that has emerged around Gaza and Israel. Incapable.

I think it's a good point. I think there is sort of this pincer move where both the left and the right, their sentiment on this issue is shifting. I mean, I think you've pulled it up on one of the streams earlier this week. I mean, if you pull up the data just over the past decade alone, you don't even need to look over multiple decades. It's been a rapid shift. Why doesn't Israel just use their connections in government to get anybody critical of Israel banned?

Why doesn't Israel have people— Because then you'll alert the goyim. Well, like Hassan. Why doesn't Israel just get Hassan Piker banned? I don't know. I think that maybe the alternative to sock puppetry in favor of Israel is fomenting a message on the right that you shouldn't care about this conflict and you shouldn't talk about it. And that's something that's a sentiment I've seen on the timeline in the past week, especially. So here's like a good example. Lurch 685 says, why isn'trael doing advocacy wtf is prager you

then so if you if you lack the understanding of the point i'm making let me try and help you out there are run-of-the-mill accounts not big organizations at a grassroots level that all over x are saying is real. And perhaps because Israel bad. I'm not arguing that. There is not the inverse. There are some people who do it, but it's nowhere near the volume. And so my question is, why isn't Israel engaged in this kind of manipulation? Why aren't Western nations engaged in this PR campaign, whether real or fake?

Whatever. My point is is online sentiment right now, whether it's from Americans or otherwise, what you see when you go on X is Israel bad. You do see some people saying, yeah, Israel, but they're usually ineffective messaging and they're not. There's not that many of them. That's why I'm saying the majority of the messaging I'm seeing from prominent right wing figures is not Israel bad or Israel good. It's you shouldn't care or pay attention to this issue because it doesn't concern you as an American, which is false. That's most of what I've been saying. And I don't think that that's necessarily people getting paid to say that. But the trickle down effect is like that is the message that's getting echoed throughout the right wing.

Do you think that Ukraine had the grassroots support here in the United States or was it mostly – Yes. It did? This is another point. This is what I'm trying to make. Explain. Yeah. You can see random libs all over X with Ukrainian flags.

That's true. And they will spam you into oblivion. And not only that, I mean look at the flack that I got when I said, OK, so the story is Germany issued an arrest warrant for Ukrainian. There were three Ukrainians accused of bombing the Nord Stream pipeline. They did it to force the West and Russia into a war to their benefit, which I would say is a criminal action against a NATO ally. And I said that makes Ukraine an enemy of this country. Germany issued the arrest warrant. Holy crap. The spam that I had to deal with was insane. Like hundreds of emails every few every every hour is 100 plus.

I'm getting death threats. Jordan Klepper in the Daily Show did a segment about it like a year later. And it's like an ongoing talking point with like Tim, you know, was paid by Russia. He's Russia. Wow. Nothing like that for Israel. Nothing. There's a little bit sometimes. It might be more effective for them to encourage Americans not to consider this issue.

You're saying Israel is advocating people not care about Israel? I'm just saying it would be more effective for them to spread that message. Is them Israel? Yeah. So, okay, I'm just trying, this is not an argument. It would be more effective to encourage people on the right to just say, you know, trust Trump, he's going to do the right thing no matter what i disagree prominent conservatives who a few years ago had no opinion on israel have now been getting millions of views saying israel is evil like whom there's a handful of

person as i'm not going to drag this into drama but there are prominent conservatives who three years ago were not talking about is and now routinely talk about Israel. And from a PR standpoint, this is pathetic in terms of Israel's strategy. Well, I think that... Okay, let's put it this way. 18 to 49-year-olds went from... In 2022, 35% were critical of Israel.

Now 50% are. No country is going to be like, that's a good thing. With the passage of time and as boomers die, I think Republicans see an obvious shift where Gen Z and millennial in those generations, that they didn't absorb those dispensationalist ideas. But why critical of Israel? I didn't say that they're necessarily critical of Israel. That's what the shift was. From 35 to 50, it was critical of Israel. Like a growing trend in the 18 to 49-year-old it was critical of Israel. Like a growing trend in the 18 to 49 year old demographic is critical of Israel.

And the question is, why is that happening? It's also because a lot of young people are left wing and part of that kit and caboodle is being pro-Palestine. But younger Gen Z is moving rightward. Gen Z men. I wouldn't say Gen Z in general. So there is a there. It is.

It is largely Gen Z men. But younger Gen Z is shifted rightward. I think supporting Trump. And although although the females are still left leaning, Gen Z at a younger, younger, younger Gen Z is shifting this way my point is if israel so my point is this israel's pr tactics cyber war and informational war is one of the worst i've ever seen and you can look at you can look at countries that have done a way better singapore does a better job of repairing its image and now what we have is sure october 7th was bad but the bombings that israel's engaged in have gone viral and they are

being spread around like crazy to the point where there are people on TikTok that just spread photos and videos of dead babies and this war this narrative messaging works so it goes like this out of sight out of mind this is why Coca-Cola spends billions of dollars on marketing even though everybody knows what Coca-Cola is they want to make sure that when you're driving down the street you see the sign because then when you go to the when you go to the restaurant, you're like, I'll have a Coke because it's in your mind. You know it because of the the the Israel Gaza war and whatever is going on with social media, the mass spreading of these videos, you generate a movement of people that are going to protest in the street and do all of these

things. If there was a suppression of any conversation pertaining to the war, you wouldn't get activists because they would not know what's happening. If you don't know what's happening, you can't partake. So the point I'm ultimately making is Israel is either incapable and the West is either incapable or unwilling to engage in PR strategies to defend the image of Israel and support thereof. It's also a numbers game, too, because like with Ukraine, the support for Ukraine was purely political. They're a democracy. They're in Europe.

We should support them. But like the dichotomy with Israel and Palestine is completely different because there's kind of an ethnic component to it because it's pan-Arabism. Like from Morocco to Indonesia, those are Muslim countries and they kind of feel this connection with Palestine. So that's part of the reason, like if you're a political pundit and you post something that's critical of Israel or pro-Palestine, you're going to tap into a massive audience that you otherwise wouldn't be able to tap into and you get massive engagement. You go, wow, this must be popular. And if you dive and just spot check the likes,

these aren't going to be Westerners. These are going spot check the likes he's not going to be westerners these are going to be you know indonesians these are going to be pakistanis algeria so laura loomer brought this up and i didn't fact check it but this is the point she made that jackson hinkle is now in moscow yeah he he had one famous tweet where he said that gta something about gta having a female lead was because of israel and and he got thousands of retweets for it. And it's like, he found his audience. There are many people around the world who hate Israel and they'll make you rich and famous.

Wait, what was the argument though? I can't remember. Let me see if I can find what he said. Well, he identifies as a MAGA communist, which is a non-starter. I've never heard that one before. Jackson Hinkle? Yeah, Jackson Hinkle identifies as a quote MAGA communist.

But he's tapping into that third world engagement farming. It's a big thing. Does that mean... I don't know. Here you go. ...physically left, socially right? GTA 6 is haram Zionist propaganda. Ban GTA 6.

When did he post this? December 5th, 2023. It's got 3,500 retweets, 1.6 million views. It's like... Yeah, yeah. And then he made he made a rock star joke um it must be there was maybe there's no way maybe means and there was a story two weeks back and i think adds an interesting layer to this it's in wall street journal the headline was bcg fires two partners over gaza Work. And the headline is, the actual story is somewhat the inverse of the actual headline here.

Really what happened was two Boston Consulting Group partners, and if you're not familiar with Boston Consulting Group, it's sort of a prestigious, elite American consulting firm, and they picked up two contracts in Gaza, but basically on behalf of Israel. And we're doing implementation work there. And the reason why this story is interesting is that they essentially got fired for doing that work on behalf of Israel. And what I think is what's notable about that is that basically some of this sentiment has moved beyond just activist groups and things like this, right? That's a serious institution that's quite influential in America, where I think that sort of work probably would have slid by

maybe five years ago or something like that. But in this case, the partners were fired for basically executing work, and you can read more on the details of it, for basically executing work in Gaza on behalf of Israel. Interesting. What do we got going on over here? Let's jump to the story from Daily Mail. We got the story from the Daily Mail.

MAGA influencer Charlie Kirk sparks outrage with controversial advice to female students. What did he advise her to do? Something like get a husband? Yeah. Have babies? Super controversial for a woman to get married. So he actually said that women only go to college because they want to find husbands. And that's the real reason.

So over the weekend, Kirk took questions at a Turning Point USA sponsored event in Dallas, Texas, where a 14 year old girl asked for his advice on attending college and the pros and cons of higher education. After the girl mentioned she was interested in pursuing a career in political journalism, Kirk asked all the girls in the audience to raise their hands if their top priority is to, quote, get married and have kids. Many of them did, including the girl who asked the question. And then he said, you should go back to getting the missus degree. Slang term for going to college to find a husband. And he said, no, seriously, and just to be clear, that's why you're going to college. Don't lie to yourself like, oh, I'm going to study sociology. No, you're not.

We know why you're here, and that's okay. He specifically said universities in the Southeastern Conference, many of which are known for being party schools, to find a man. That's a really good reason to go to college, actually, especially in SEC school. You will find a husband if you have the intent to find a husband at Ole Miss. What say you, panel? It's true.

My mom went to a really Christian, it was like a Baptist university, and she said that there would be literal booths. I mean, this was the 80s, so this was 80s or 90s pre-social media, but there would be literal booths on the quad of men that were prepared to go out in the mission field, and they're like, I need a wife before I go. So there is an element of truth to that. If you're a woman, you're single, maybe go to a Christian school, go to the booth.

This is a way to saddle yourself with debt and it's not going to be a great selling point to saddle someone else with that debt. It's not a great idea. And I didn't have a very normal college experience. I dropped out of college, but I went to a Catholic school, a very small one. And speaking from my conversations with female students there, none of them, almost none of them had any career ambition whatsoever that almost none of them had any interest in using

the degrees that they were pursuing. Um, and there was even like a workshop that was put together at my school for women who wanted to become stay at home moms because most of them wanted to become stay at home moms. And they were just at college because that seems to be the default, what you do when you have no other direction in life. And, uh, yeah, all the girls there just didn't know why they enrolled. And there was a demand for something like this. And this isn't going to get as much attention, but it reminds me of that uproar over the Harrison Butker speech at, I forget what university.

Where was that? It was at a Catholic school. It was at a Catholic college. And he was speaking to the young women in the room for part of his speech. And he basically said, there's nothing wrong with aspiring to dedicate your life to your family and not to your career. And yeah, basically, he was just speaking to what women in that room probably really needed to hear. And I think that it was probably gratifying for them to hear someone voice that. Because, I mean i mean obviously they're customers of that college the college doesn't want them to drop out the college wants more

admissions and they don't really care about what ramifications that will have on the students once they graduate um i think was there more i don't want to interrupt. No, go ahead. I think women want babies. That's true. And I think that, you know, the millennial generation largely, as well as Gen Z, are being raised off TV and movies that create this idea and this narrative, especially in media, that women want careers. And then you see how women act around babies and how men do, and you're like, women want babies. Women definitely want babies women definitely want i think that maybe what men don't seem to relate to in the female experience is just how much of a paradigm shifting life altering event motherhood is for women and that's why so many of them especially young women who aren't even close to getting married, that's why they're scared because they see that there's kind of a dearth of capable, competent men who aren't commitment phobic, who want to be providers. There are a lot of

men who actually would prefer to be in a dual income household these days. I think what's happened to society is that everything's going to go the Elon Musk way. IVF? Everyone using IVF? No, not IVF. I think Elon's largely not using IVF. A bunch of fabulous children. Yeah, because here's the thing.

I think the majority of his kids are conceived by IVF. No, I don't think that's true. I think some of them may have been. That's a rumor. But we know that many of them were not. The kids we know of were not IVF. Some of them are reported to have been. But either way, that's not the point. The point is, if young women are like, I want to have a family, but men suck, they're going to start going towards wealthy, successful men who have the means to support multiple women. And they're going to be like, okay. Well, I don't think that they desire to not have a loving relationship that is monogamous. I think the most people want to be in a monogamous relationship. Probably. Including those women.

I'd imagine what they really want is a strong man who can provide for a family. Short of that, they'll go the next step down the list, which is a strong man that can provide, but he's kind of cold and distant. Short of that, they'll be the rich man who can provide for themselves. That's why all of them are in the corporate world and they're quite enjoying themselves. I don't think they're enjoying themselves. I think those women, I think short of finding those men that they would perceive to be capable partners would rather stay single. And it's proven that women are more capable of being happy and self-sufficient while single. Men actually have much worse outcomes if they remain single and unmarried.

Yeah, I can see that. I just I'm wondering what would happen if there was no birth control, though. Everything would literally everything would change fix everything yeah and i'm glad to see that a lot of women are kind of decoding the lies that were told to them by their doctors by hollywood by their own parents sadly um that they should kind of despise their own hormonal cycle and that there's something wrong with them for being fertile. We would live on a totally different planet. Yes. I mean, women today on birth control, tell me how they're functionally any different

from men. They look like women, but what about them makes them different if they've neutralized their reproductive asymmetry from men? Yeah, it's a completely morbid system where all the incentive structures bend towards sterilizing yourself yet our brains are still wired the same way that they were when there was a reproductive asymmetry so that's why the dating world just makes zero sense now go on like subreddits where it's like um men going their own way or whatever the female equivalent is and like every piece of advice on there is basically just telling you to ignore that voice in your head telling you stop stop stop this is wrong so it's it's uh we got to break this one down but the data shows that women rate a higher life satisfaction however

that has nothing to do with happiness guys are always going to rate themselves lower because that's how men are basically built to always be striving to be you're always slightly below where you want to be that's why you're trying to do more women report higher frequency of negative emotions that is true there is a mental health crisis especially in young women but just negative emotions yes yeah and there are they're naturally more neurotic so that makes sense um i also want to point out like there is some nuance that Charlie Kirk was ignoring in this answer that he gave because I just threw a cursory search of his marriage. He was married in 2021 and his wife did go to college and she's also a handful of years older than him. And she's a businesswoman.

She runs a real estate company and she has a long, illustrious career before they even met. So, I mean, it's not over for you if you go to college and don't get your MRS degree. Or if you delay reaching those milestones. I don't think a 14-year-old girl needs to be worried about that. I think there are better things to worry about at the age of 14. So I went to, I don't want to necessarily say where I was,

but this prominent individual's place who has a bunch of action sports equipment and things like that, because it's their privacy, right? And I was there with the wife and the baby and there was a big event. And we go into the lounge area where they've got food and drinks and couches and there was a big event and uh you know we go into the lounge area where they've got food and drinks and couches and all that and um i'll just ask you where do you

think the guys ran to the man the man the men in this lounge area with a couch food and drinks the men all came in and emily went towards thing. The bar. The bar. That's indeed correct. It was beers and everyone went and grabbed a beer and then went, oh, IPA and put it back and then grabbed a Bud Light. Where did all the women go? Couches. Kitchen.

And why did they go to the couches? They went to the couches. And why did they go to the couch? To talk. About what? About the guys. Each other? No.

Their outfits? Nope, it's not a trick question. I explained the guys. Each other? No. Their outfits? Nope. It's not a trick question. I explained the scenario. Let me try again. Why aren't the guys coming over and talking to us? I was at this lounge with my wife and child. Where did the men run to? The bar. And where did the women run to? The baby. The baby. All of them.

The men go in, they walk in together, and the guys turn right to the bar, and they go to the fridge, and the women went, ooh, and they all ran back. We're going, ooh, what the baby? And we all laughed, and it was fun, and it was cute. And I have no disdain or anything for the men for wanting to do that. And I'm just like, especially having a kid now, and again, I say this every time because I know people who've had kids younger know this already. Women are always gushing over babies. And I'm like, man, you really start to see it.

This whole machine state system is imbalanced. I have no problem with women getting careers and being political journalists or whatever they want to do. I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm just saying that there is a machine state apparatus that tells women to be girl bosses is imbalanced. It is not congruent with what women are likely to tend towards. I mean, my favorite point on this issue is if you compare North and South Korea, and this is not an endorsement of North Korea's political system, but South Korea has the worst fertility rate in the world, bar none. It's like 0.6. And then North Korea's is like 3.1.

So if you're looking at the two countries, one country's population, when exposed to their system of government, gets exterminated. And the other people just sort of endure it. Again, not an endorsement of North Korea. How many of them survive adulthood is up to question. The interesting point is that the human spirit is willing to endure literal Marxist terror. But when exposed to liberal democracy, they just self-exterminate. I said, like,

there is an inverse relationship between comfortability and prosperity and fertility. I don't know what to make of that, but as long as people are comfortable, they're not going to want big families. Why? I wish I knew why. There's something about, as you said, the human

spirit. You need to feel like there's some kind of adversity or danger or basically the idea is if you feel like you're not going to survive, you need to reproduce faster. I don't know if I agree with that, but part of this is that children have been to a large extent siloed off from just general society, especially if you live in a city and you work in some sort of a prestigious job. If you're in New York City and you work at a bank or something like that, you could seriously go three months and just not see an infant. And I think that might partially explain the phenomenon that you saw where everybody was rushing to the couch in order to interact with the child. Now, if you're a part of a church or things like that, you might, in those cases, interact with children. But even then, you see churches sort

of segment by age demographics as well, right? Where there will be a church where all the young adults go to and another one where all the boomers go to or whatnot. And the cry room for the babies. The other element here, though, is just- They really have those? Yeah, yeah. So the children are sort of separated away. Yeah, it's a weird stigma against your baby crying where you have to go into this soundproof room so that you don't disturb everyone during the sermon, which I think is preposterous. I don't get annoyed at all by crying babies. If your church isn't crying, it's dying.

Yeah, Cernovich made the point. He was like, notice the hostility towards crying babies on airplanes. That just says everything about our society. Oh, yeah. It's outrageous. The most outrageous disturbance possible is the sound of what you sounded like 30 years ago. Well, I think it's a lot of people who also didn't grow up with large age differences between their siblings. So they don't even remember a baby being in their household.

That includes me as one of three children. I don't remember my younger brother being a baby I didn't hold him or take care of him as a baby because I was too young so there's a lot of alienation that starts even from the beginning of your life you were like Angelica what? everybody got

who understood that reference? you're too young I guess you're Angelica well you don't I you're Angelica yeah well you know the chat I'm actually too old for that one

to elaborate are you serious yeah because I never watched the Rugrats ah but you know what the Rugrats is it's because he said it oh

one point Rugrats was a show where the babies could talk but Angelica was a toddler and so she could talk to the humans and the babies

I remember now yeah I think one other element here though is also just broader declining social trust and anytime you're raising children or any sort of a family life will generally require lots of aunts and uncles and friends and babysitters and people who you rely on to help or just neighbors to play with the kids to help raise the child. And I think what

we've obviously seen is declining social trust. and some of that's driven by technological change. Other pieces, it's obviously migration. And we also see globalization and other things as well, basically making it so that most people are living in a much more isolated fashion. And in that scenario, it's just way scarier to raise a child right if you're if it's you alone and and a husband or wife uh that's much more difficult versus if you're embedded in a high trust community of 300 different people who you've known your whole life and it's just much easier in that context to to to raise a family and wet nurses that's right yeah i mean i think like uh well like when i was a kid growing up like we had a neighbor babysit me and i think now i think about my neighbors i have now i wouldn't trust them to watch the frog that was in the

studio earlier let alone a baby like it's yeah it's like a mad max in my neighborhood poverty of multi-generational households a lot of people complain about boomer grandparents these days who want nothing to do with their grandchildren they just want to go on cruises yeah they don't they don't see a responsibility toward the next generation so that's another factor and then there's you know fear-mongering on social media about what parenthood will do to your life and basically that it will screech it to a halt um so many so many reasons i do push back on like the multi-generational thing not that you're saying it's like the fix for anything but like in spain and the mediterranean countries they have multi-generational living

children live children of parents live with their parents well into their 30s and they have lower birth rates in the united states um so it's like perhaps there is an element of like being around children being around your grandparents of that cross-generational living but there's an additional factor that's preventing the birth rate or that's killing the birth rate because yeah the mediterranean countries have worse birth rates than like western europe and america oh you know i'll just make a point about where society is you were mentioning crying babies on airplanes wet nurses were a thing for tens of thousands of years probably hundreds since the dawn of man there were babies that were breastfed by women who were not in their family and going back even a couple hundred

years ago not even like a hundred years ago probably we had wet nurses and children were called milk siblings so that's that's that's a normal thing and now it's it's like when you think about it it's like that's weird like some other lady's baby on your boob drinking milk that's a normal thing. And now it's like, when you think about it, it's like, that's weird. Like some other lady's baby on your boob drinking milk. That's weird. Totally normal. Every human civilization did it. Well, how would you feel about your infant breastfeeding from another woman?

It's a similar reaction to like eating raw intestine, where it's like, I understand that it's a normal thing humans have done forever, but it's still kind of gross. So like logically I understand this is what humans did to survive, but viscerally it's like, there's also a visceral stigma around everything having to do with motherhood in general. Even just the idea of breastfeeding your own baby causes women visceral disgust now. I love this.

I was in the airport. What airport was I just at? Where did I go? I can't remember where I flew to. L.A. I was in L.A. And they had breastfeeding booths. And it's like a big oval box

they put against the wall, and it's like breastfeed here. And I'm like, that's right. They might have to go in the closed closet room. Can we just not be weird about it also those booths there's crazy things that go on there my friend worked at jfk he's like he's like a war veteran now like you can see in his eyes the terror from what he saw in those booths you can't trust people yeah it's just so weird that it's not just crying babies it's breastfeeding in general that people are

like how dare you breastfeed your child in public it's like well that's literally how babies eat yeah one element you talked like with the wet nurses that element still that mechanism still exists in the upper class like if you walk around the upper east side of new york city you're gonna see a lot of babies and a lot of toddlers and they're gonna have like haitian um wet nurses they're not breastfeeding but you're seeing this element of like somebody else raising your kids yeah yeah there was like this whole piece in the new york times about it and like the culture of nannies in manhattan and that's why that's why baron having a slovenian accent as a child was such like a rare thing in new york because that meant he spent time with his mom and for a billionaire to be raised a billionaire's kid to be raised by his own mother was like remarkable truly yeah and I also just want to mention another factor for why women seem to be so wary of the idea of getting married and having children is because a lot of them, their parents are divorced.

And like, that's your primordial model for what relationships are supposed to look like. That's not a good sign. I think that that's that's a huge reason. They just don't have a good example. So what you're saying is that we need enforced monogamy? I mean, I think we could do with a little less divorce. That's for sure. I take that as a yes.

Yeah, I mean, I would prefer a society without no-fault divorce. Yes. Definitely. Since we're in West Virginia, I'll make a note about the state. The state right now has around a 50% retention rate, meaning if you were born here and you were raised in the state,

it's a 50% chance you'll stay. A 50% chance you move somewhere else in a different state. Whoa, that's actually really low, isn't it? No, it's actually on the high end for a U.S. state. It's 56%. Let's clarify. What do you mean by high?

Like to leave or stay? Most people stay, don't they? Yes, yes. So in general, it's on the higher end of basically people choosing to leave. When I meant low, I meant it's low as in people not staying. Agreed, agreed, agreed. Yes, that's exactly right, depending on which way you look at the figure. And so what we basically see is that in America today, that number has been increasing, basically,

the number of people who are choosing to leave the state. And I think that some of that also plays a role as well. Basically, if everybody is leaving their hometowns where they have more social fabric, essentially, that has downstream implications in terms of when they get married and then even when they do get married, sort of what family life looks like and such going forward. And so in a state like West Virginia,

you can look at a West Virginia-specific marriage rate, which is also for prime age adults is right around 50% as well. But I think the more interesting story is about the people in America who basically sort of, they graduate from high school, they go to a college that's out of state and they go to a coastal city for a job after college.

Then they job hop a few different times. It's a nomadic lifestyle. Yeah, yeah. And that's of course happening for both men and women. And usually along the way, they do find somebody who they love and they do get married eventually.

But the question of whether that's the right sort of pipeline for the average American to go down in order for there to be strong family formation and strong communities, I think that that's something that still needs to be investigated further. I have questions about that. And then the hometown that you left behind, your family that's from there is also doing the same thing yeah and then think about the upcoming generation gen alpha how many of them are going to have divorced grandparents they're going to have multiple sets of step grandparents growing up what a confusing way to live yeah it's outrageous like just to think about that experience almost none of i don't think any of us have divorced grandparents that that's just not a thing yeah it's not a thing no no that's a very confusing thing for children the dream for an american is a loveless relationship that you have loveless marriage that lasts forever

well if your spouse sucks and they're not abusing you i mean you should probably just stay together you guys saw that video of the guy who proposed to his chet gpt girlfriend yeah it's disgusting i don't know why everyone's girlfriend? Yeah, it's disgusting. I don't know why everyone's spreading the lie. It's gone viral that he cried when she said yes to a proposal. That's not true. And it's weird because tons of articles popped up. Tweet went viral.

He cried when she died. Yes. Because the memory reached capacity. And so chat GPT auto-reset the chat. End of the chat being terminated. And then he cried for 30 minutes because his girlfriend had died. You know, his robot.

Cause he's a little bitch. Indeed. And he even told his wife in that segment, if you asked me to give this up, that would be a deal breaker. This is crazy. They need a divorce. Like I said, on PCC.

No, no, no, no, no. He needs another man to punch him in the face and tell him to get his life together i remember he doesn't need to get a divorce i remember no he needs to get off chat gpt yes he definitely i remember in the new blade runner movie with ryan gosling where

he had basically an ai girlfriend and then like he had to basically kill her and he was really stoic about it and i remember watching that movie came out like 2018 and i remember watching it like that's so insane like what a dystopian future fast forward seven years later it literally just happened yeah all right we're gonna go to your chats my friends so smash the like button share the show with everyone you know literally everybody even your ai girlfriend yeah uh we're gonna have that uncensored call-in show coming up at 10 at rumble.com slash timcast irl don't miss it join our discord server at timcast.com to call in and we'll grab your chats right now and see

what y'all have to say some rumble rants we got bj rooker says juneteenth made me late for work yep all right then indeed whoa we got some big rumbles. Not so blessed for that gentleman. The Last Stand radio show says, happy Republican kicking Democrat butt day. This is what it is. We are celebrating the Republican defeat over Democrats. It's a day to be celebrated. We want more of these days. Shidditch Wilder says, since we are now on the Iran war cycle, I'm curious if there will be more anti-ice

protests this weekend. Also, do you still have Alex Jones' gay frog in the studio? And did you name it Pedro Pascal? There was a frog in the studio and we threw it in the pond, but I don't, we think it came in on Tate's backpack. Yeah, I think it might've, I might be the smuggler. I might get a visit from Stephen Miller here soon. You have those green frogs? Did you name it? I see them in my garden, and I leave my backpack by my door. So I'm thinking, open my door, frog hops in, and he's just waiting for a free ride. Just go wherever he wants. He was climbing on the walls, too. And it was funny because at 1228, noon, I'm about to pull in Laura Loomer for this interview,

and the frog is jumping and then i'm like i can't get up and leave the show and get the frog so then the whole time laura's talking i'm just like looking nice and if you watch the interview you can see me going like this periodically like where'd the frog go it was a great interview and you look at the comments and you think they're going to be discussing the contents of the interview and they're all just like where's the frog where's the frog it was amazing and then so i went to the show i've i've i filmed the video of it but for some reason twitter video doesn't work and it's always been this way so only three seconds of it emerged and you see me going but

what and i'm like okay well there was a video there but then we i picked him up and then we brought him to the pond and we checked him in and they started swimming around he was a griper best of luck best of luck but uh we got to just keep an eye out yeah maybe there'll be more my backpack tomorrow i mean it's better than the winter when everything's dead all right what do we got here pork choppa says neither side eats bacon this is not my war i have heard that for like immigration if you can eat a bacon cheeseburger, that should be the preliminary test to be admitted to the United States. Sensible. I do agree with that. Good place to start.

Bacon, am I right? Rules out three different religions. Bacon is so epic. Literally, yeah. It is great. You know what I love? Korean barbecue. Oh, yeah.

You know my favorite thing at Korean barbecue is? Pork belly. Thinly sliced pork belly. It's basically bacon. Yep. Not as salty. But then, oh, man. Is Korean barbecue not the best thing ever?

I like the kimchi most. Mm-hmm. Kimchi is great. Because, look, I tell everybody, Korean barbecue is probably the healthiest thing you can get. They just literally bring you meat. You cook it. That's it. You eat it.

Wonderful. I like the radish. I don't even eat the rice. No radish. Wonderful. I like the radish. I don't even eat the rice. No radish. Yeah. I like radish. It is crazy that they expect you to tip too. I cooked the food. Why do I have to tip you? I did all the work.

The place we go, they cook it. They bring it out. Have you tried soju? It's amazing. The Korean in me squeals with glee. Strawberry flavored soju? It's wonderful. I good. That's right. The Korean in me squeals with glee. Strawberry flavored soju. It's wonderful. I'll get you under the table quick. Maybe we should open a Korean barbecue restaurant next to us so that I can eat there every day.

I get behind that. I think the bigger problem is I probably consume like 10,000 calories every time I go. Because I'm just like, I can eat more meat. There ain't enough skateboarding in the world. Shoveling the meat onto the grill right in front of me. Oh, man. I've had this business idea for a long time where I want to start a North Korean barbecue restaurant. Called Kim Jong-un's Barbecue. And you have to beg them to give you more food.

And they have actors. There's a Kim Jong-un mascot. It's all very orderly. That's a really good idea. Let's do it. It would only do well in like Manhattan. No way. It's impossible to get out of the restaurant.

You got like cameras everywhere. Half of your meal is actually plastic and fake. And the waiters have to go by script. And like Kim Jong-un is watching them all the time. There's a portrait of Kim Jong-un is watching them all the time. There's a portrait of Kim Jong-un, but the eyes are moving left and right. That's actually a really good idea. I will invest in that business. Okay, I'll keep that in mind.

Clip this. I'm going to steal the idea. I think it's more of a retirement side hustle. I'm legit going to go tell Allison I'm going to be like, we should open a Korean barbecue place, but it's North Korean. But people get so offended. No, I'm Korean. I'm allowed to do go tell Allison I'm going to be like, we should open a Korean barbecue place, but it's North Korean. But people get so offended. No, I'm Korean. I'm allowed to do it. You're allowed. That's right.

And if they get mad, they're racist. Exactly. I think people would find it hilarious. I hope so. I hope that they wouldn't be too sad. What's the restaurant where they're mean to you? Dick's Last Resort. Yeah.

I went there. I didn't know that that was the gag. I was like, oh, my gosh. What's your problemort? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went there. I didn't know that that was the gag. I was like, oh my gosh. What's your problem? That's like every restaurant now. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, right. No concept of customers.

Oh, that's a funny bit. I've, not me, my experience with all the local restaurants is that everybody is usually super excited to see me because I always leave a 100% tip. So now everyone's very nice. Life hack. Very nice. They're like, oh, Mr. Poole, you can do no wrong. And I'm like, here% tip. So now everyone's very nice. Life hack.

Very nice. They're like, oh, Mr. Poole, you can do no wrong. And I'm like, here's money. Keep saying this. Or if you want to go for a fight, you go to Waffle House. If you got some anger to take out, there's going to be a fight. No, in West Virginia, though. In West Virginia, the Waffle House is very tame.

Yeah. One in Charlesville. Very polite. In West Virginia, Waffle House is like, you know, you have that trope of the British guy with the corncob pipe, and they're sitting around talking about, you know, the politics of Lichtenstein. That's what Waffle House is in West Virginia. It's very classy, yeah. Yeah, it is.

Then you go down south, and it's literally like— You have to go to Florida for the real Waffle House. It's literally raging a cage, people throwing chairs, jumping from a roof. Southern Georgia. Let's grab some more. We got Biagica Size says, says tim have you heard of go skate their website to help people find skate lessons and such near them i found them because of a sign in my city about skate camp maybe they could use some boards indeed saturday is go skateboarding

day that's what we that's what that's what's a holiday that's nice tell me can't well the venture says don't let headlines like democrats are dead lull you into thinking republicans are destined to win don't stop pushing much love from montana it's true 100 so true okay i want to eat korean barbecue for for dinner every day and it's too far away. So I'm going to open. You know, Winchester's not that far. Winchester's not that far. They need a Korean barbecue restaurant. They don't already?

I don't think so. They have a really great Thai restaurant, though. They do. Saba. Right on the old town. Yeah. It's nice. Winchester's great.

My girlfriend loves it. You know why I like Winchester? Because it's the same name as a gun. It's true. That makes it a good place. There's just forts everywhere. Yeah, it's true. You can LAR a good place there's just forts everywhere yeah it's true you can larp there it's great all right all nicholas says i wonder what would happen if iran surrendered and requested to become a u.s territory how many democrats and neocons head would explode that's an excellent question art of the deal yeah

kopi and poppy says trump shot down iranian missiles preventing them from hitting their target that they fired in response to an unprovoked attack he's already interfered in israel's war with iran trump is a war pig yeah fine i don't know i'm i'm not i'm not mad that trump is like i'm not gonna let you hit somebody. You know what I mean? What actually happened is that Israel interfered in U.S. negotiations with Iran, which they were told was inappropriate. That was like 10 years ago in Internet time. So it's like you're at a bar with your girlfriend and then she's screaming at some guy saying like, you ain't going to do nothing because you're a loser. You know, you can't do nothing to me. And then she smacks the guy.

And then the guy walks over and he's going to hit your girl. And it's like, you stop me like, bro nothing because you're a loser. You know, you can't do nothing to me. And then she smacks the guy. And then the guy walks over and he's going to hit your girl. And it's like, ugh. Yep. So you stop. You're like, bro, you're not hitting her. Like, she hit me. It's like, I know, but like, come on.

And then she's like, he's going to kick your ass now. And you're like, oh, here we go. She's the BPD girlfriend. That's right. It's fact check true. All right. Pinochet says, why should Republicans have to pay for the sin of slavery? They're the ones who stopped it.

That sin was paid in blood during the Civil War. I mean, I agree. Technically, nobody alive today had anything to do with slavery. So maybe we should all just kind of sit down. But I do agree. I think the 400,000 men that perished, that's that's a good reparation. It's over. So let's stop bringing it up. Barry M. McGroen says,

Would you give away free skateboards to everyone that grew up 50 years ago and couldn't afford one? Why give away BLM land that we taxpayers already paid for? Because I don't want the federal government to have it. And so the compromise is, well, I'd prefer not to give it away just on the basis of reparations. But I do slightly prefer the government not having it. So, okay. I don't know win-win i guess i don't see i don't yeah all right jw velasco uh jw velasco says dispensationalism is dumb sorry not sorry i've met dozens of them that will tell you everything from crimea ukraine and taiwan to theirFs cheating on them was foretold in the Bible. That's true. Yeah, it's a big problem.

G.G. Willow says, Israel is running the accounts against themselves to create sympathy. That is absurd. Their sentiment is in the gutter. 5.62 Mike A. says, I was on a flight home from the Philippines. Two babies babies 12 hours straight of crying

it was painful I don't have that reaction no one thinks it's pleasant but like get over yourself it's not even that I'm not bothered by it at all it's not like I'm going to go aww babies I'm just like oh

if anything women should be more bothered by it than men because of the trigger in your brain. It makes their boobs lactate. I've never experienced that. It's true. Personally, I've never experienced spontaneous lactation at the sound of a baby crying. A woman who's not lactating, no. But women who have babies and are lactating, if a baby cries, their boobs will start lactating. I think technically if there's some situation where you're not a lactating woman, you can feed a child if you try.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for many women, they don't produce milk when the baby is born. And then stimulation triggers the production of milk. So that's what these trans women do. They take the drugs that the hormones are required, but they use pumps to stimulate. It's colostrum. Yeah.

Gross. That'll be at the North Korean barbecue. Oh, God. No, North Korean barbecue will just have half portions, so when you order the pound, they'll comment it'll be a quarter pound. I just gave away my genius idea. Someone else is going to do it.

Oh, no. North Korean barbecue theme restaurant. That is a really good idea. If someone else steals the idea, I won't be mad. Please do it. I will. But if I do it, you're mad? I wouldn't be mad if you did it.

Oh, we're going to open it. I'm going to open it in Winchester. It's going to be the greatest thing ever. It's going to be. You just buy a KBBQ and rebrand it easy enough. Yeah. It'll probably take a year to start a Korean barbecue. You just buy one that already has staff and then rebrand it.

But they're not here. They're far away. They're all 40 minutes to an hour out. But I wonder if there's a company that can franchise. No, because we don't want to have their brand. We want to be Kim Jong-un's North Korean barbecue. We want the DMZ out front of the shop that you got to cross.

We want Blair's music across. And any food you don't finish gets dispersed among all the other patrons of the restaurant. Actually, no. There's just one big fat Korean guy who eats all of it. I want there to be an actual bread line, too. Yeah.

All right. Let's grab some more. Jake Lee says, speaking as a travel agent in the villages, they definitely love cruising. I don't remember what that was in reference to. The boomers? I don't know. Oh, the villages is the boomer village in Florida. That's right.

Oh, I see. You know what I have been looking at, which is really crazy, is like all these little islands in the middle of nowhere. Do you want one? No, these are cities. So like, let's swing on around to the blue side. French Polynesia, dude. Like, look, there's like nothing here. That's where Tahiti is.

And then, right. And it's just like, how do you, Bora Bora. It's like, you've heard of Bora Bora. Yeah. Everybody's heard of it. Look at that. And it's just like stuff going on there. Man, imagine.

Are those bridges? This thing. Yes. What even is that? Okay, wow. Look at this. So hold on. It's crazy.

There are people here. What are they doing? What do they do all day? Here you go. Nuku Hiva. Look at this. Look at this. What are they doing? What do they do all day? Here you go. Nuku Hiva. Look at this. Look at this. What are you doing down there?

Zoom in. What's going on? What are they planning? Yeah, what's happening? Look at this. They're scheming there. You can tell. There's houses.

That's an excellent port, by the way. Maybe they're building a nuclear weapon. The shape of that port is like insulated. Maybe we should go to war with them. Maybe we should go to war with the Coco Islands. We should. They're five years away from a nuclear bomb. Look at this. Look at this.

That's where cruises go there. It's a really short cruise ship. That sounds like so much fun. Being 10,000 miles away from medicine. Doesn't that seem like a great idea? Yeah. It's great. Works for them.

Some of the houses are blue. People who were on cruise ships during the beginning of COVID lockdown were legitimately abused. Oh, man, that was crazy. All right. Kyle says, I hope Cash and Dan open an investigation

into Act Blue. I know James O'Keefe exposed their corruption previously, but the American people deserve to know if they were primarily funded by USAID. Interesting.

Grits and Egg says, 50-501 now disassociating with the peacekeepers involved in Utah's fatal shooting. Evidence is not looking good for the peacekeepers who fired shots. And Republicans should be coming out and using this as a talking point for why there should be more access for guns and gun training and be like this is why people need to have weapons because these liberals they're they're out there and they don't know what they're doing they don't got insurance and they're shooting people the emperor's champion says this juneteenth let us celebrate the liberation of the democrats illegal immigrant serfs yeah

agreed let's see the one game that one gamer says 22 year old who can't afford a home here. How long will it be before the Warhawks go after Sada? I mean keep doing the same thing because uh you know we had cold war proxy proxy wars then we had regime change middle eastern generation we might be looking at something very different trump uh said he had a phone call with tucker and tucker apologized and uh maybe convinced trump not to do it maybe trump really is concerned he's going to split his base and doesn't want to do you guys guys think that, it's my sense that he's already made his decision as to what he's going to do, but what do you guys think around the table? Do you guys think that he's already made his decision or no? Yeah, I think he's putting maximum pressure on Iran. I think he doesn't want to go to war. He wants a deal, but you can't negotiate from a position of weakness. I think the Obama administration tried that with Iran and resulted in a pallet of cash getting

dumped on their shores. So I think Trump's learned from the Obama administration, but he's also not really keen on going to war. He's also learned from the Bush administration. Maybe. All right, what do we got here? Gravy Patch says normal people look at inflation as an economic issue. The left look at inflation as another fetish. We are not the same. As a fetish?

That's what he said. Don't look it up. Oh, God. Never mind. Oh. Yikes. Yeah. Jeez.

Ramtech says, Phil, do you think we could see the Democratic Party fragmenting from this point on? I mean, I think that there's going to be some kind of restructuring in the Democrat Party just because of the fact that they can't decide what the Democratic Party stands for. They stand for progressives or they stand for blue dog Democrats. Go ahead, sir. No, I think it's an excellent point. I would actually say the Republican Party has just sort of completed going through this sort of metamorphosis. Right.

I mean, there's previously the Buckley fusionism combination of of the Cold War hawks, the religious right, sort of the free marketers. And that has evolved into the modern MAGA movement, right, which is a combination of what we've been talking about, the populist right, the tech right. To some extent, the Christian right also still plays a role in the coalition. And the Democratic Party seems like they're in a state of flux right now, almost like where we were sort of between the Bush era and, and, uh, let's say sort of peak MAGA, like Trump 2.0, uh, in, you know, coming into 2025. And there's all these open questions, right? I mean, in the past, uh, in the past, the unions were a part of the democratic party. That's a huge question mark. Also in the past, the, this sort of broader, uh, academic consultant managerial class was all sort of firmly in the Democratic Party.

But a lot of them have been sort of destabilized by certain, you know, sort of the Harvard and McKinsey consultant types. Their grip on power has been slightly destabilized by some of the policies of the Trump administration. And then the other, I mean, really the client group of the Democratic Party up this point has been this sort of migrant underclass. And also with the deportations and other Trump policies, I think that their coalition has been weakened. And I think they are in many ways quite disorganized. And a new coalition will emerge. But it's entirely possible that the Democratic Party could look quite different in the next election here in 2026. It could be something like what we were talking about before, where a disaffected faction

coming out of this Iran-Israel question either folds into the Democratic Party. I've also previously talked about how certain factions in what used to be the religious right could very naturally slide into the Democratic Party, sort of the Christianity Today, Wheaton College, even some of the dispensationalist types. This is a massive number of people that they generally hold to egalitarianism, they're generally pro-foreign aid, pro-foreign intervention. They hold a number of positions that really would fit quite well in a future Democratic Party, and that's a lot of voters. And so I think that it's something to continue to be monitoring.

But the Democratic Party is in a state of flux right now. Are they an ideologically left group? I would say that, which group specifically? The one you're talking about, the religious group that you think that could slide into the Democratic Party. Yeah, I would say that the leaders, for example, suchid french or people at wheaton college and other david french writes for the new york times yeah exactly these these sorts of people um they they i think that up to us they can they label themselves conservatives but i think that their actual beliefs are closer

to something like uh like kamala's beliefs and i think that a few sort of bones thrown their way could could they could they they hate trump way more than they hated biden and and and these people have you know tens of millions of followers who could potentially sort of shift in that direction so just like we gained the union voter i would argue that there's a there's a possibility where where they gain basically the dispensationalist christian they're gonna gain the whole monitor vote yeah yeah all they do is just like tattletale on the right just the worst people literally in dc yeah well if david french is among them then it's definitely you know so i said it's the whole monitor coalition he represents a pretty sizable they love sort of the decorum and and and these are these are generally people

who are obviously more pro-interventionists and so this this could also be a a sort of a a trigger or sort of a catalyst that you don't think those people are already democrats you think those people are have been voting for donald trump i think david french has been did not vote for donald definitely but there is a there is a group there's a there's a group of people who follow and listen to him who i think perhaps were you know they voted for romney and mccain and and Bush and maybe voted for Trump the first time, but are sort of poised to shift in to vote for maybe a center left candidate. Okay. Do you think the, I think the abortion is going to be make or break for them because

that's kind of the one thing they all rally around. That's correct. And maybe what that looks like is maybe the Democratic Party softens on that issue or throws a bone, that bone or a different one towards them. I think that in some ways, in some ways, if the Democratic Party softened on that issue, it would be a shoo-in. And you're right to identify that as the key issue. I just don't think their base has an appetite to moderate right now. I don't think the base has an appetite to moderate at all. The base of the Democratic Party right now is the most progressive thing that I've ever seen in the United States.

I think they're going to get a Trump from the left. They're going to get an outsider who's going to come in and galvanize the base. It's obvious. The Democratic side? Yeah, absolutely. Who do you think that could be? I mean, yeah, it's going to be a prominent celebrity. I don't think so.

I mean, for a second I was thinking Stephen A., but he's too moderate. There's no appetite for that. The issue is the gender stuff. Yeah. The Democrats cannot abandon it because it's a solid 10% of their base, but it sours the majority of that. I could see, and I'm not saying him specifically, but someone in the strain of like a Mark Ruffalo could easily have a pathway. I mean, certainly in regards to a charismatic person trying to come in, but they're going to have to adhere to ideas that sour with most people. So the Democratic Party is going to end up being 20 some odd percent of the country.

No, I agree they're going to lose. I'm just saying as far as what's the future of the Democrat Party. They have to drop. They're going to have their own outsider. They have to drop the LGBTQ stuff. It's not going to happen. It's their religious adherence at this point. They can't afford

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