Timcast IRL - Democrat Senate CIVIL WAR, UFO CAUGHT Over Volcanic Eruption, Spencer Pratt TO WIN IT w/ Jesse Arm

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Tim, Phil, and Brett are joined by Jesse Arm to discuss the Democrat civil war over Graham Platner, democrats roasted after holding presser to complain about their period pains, Hasan Piker & Cenk Uygur denied entry into the UK, a video of meteor & volcano eruption, and American support for Israel is collapsing.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://timcast.com/discord Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Brett @PopCultureCrisis (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Jesse Arm @Jesse_Leg (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! Democrat Senate CIVIL WAR, UFO CAUGHT Over Volcanic Eruption, Spencer Pratt TO WIN IT | Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email [e-mail]

And the Senate race in Maine is getting absolutely insane because you got this primary coming up. The corporate Democrat says she's dropping out, but she's still in. Graham Platner is the favorite to win the Democrat primary, but not only is he getting attacked by the right. The Democrat machine, the corporate press, even the view are now going after him. And the funny thing about it is not because he's a Nazi. He got a big Nazi tattoo on his chest, right? He got to cover it up.

So I can at least give somebody respect by saying, Well, you know, they can change their mind, right? The only thing I think about the guy is that, you know, he had it for 20 years and it wasn't an accident. Only when he got caught with it while already running for office, they decided to cover it up. Now, here's a funny thing. That did not sink him. Democrats were told that this guy is a history buff with a toten comp on his chest, and they were like, that's totally fine. Then they find out he was sexting with women. Oh, that. That's a bridge too far, apparently.

There's this screenshot going around from the Wall Street Journal where apparently he was referring to his, you know what, as minefurer and asking women if you could have permission to blitzkrieg, that ass. Okay, I would be remiss if I did not say that's a fake screenshot that's going around, but there's a political element to this. And the story is going to go viral. People are going to believe it anyway. And the citation is they did the same thing to J.D. Vance. We are now in the post truth era where it's just defame and destroy your enemy. They do it to Trump. They did it to Vance. You know, turnabouts fair play, they say. So here's the story about Graham Platner. Now Mills, the other Democrats saying, just want to remind everybody, I'm still actually in the race

because they may force Platner out. This is just getting wild. Now, I must admit, midterms are the lesser of the election. People don't really care all that much about the midterms. And midterm primaries are the bottom of the barrel. But we hear talk about politics on Tim Kastairal, so we will cover it. There's more news to a volcanic eruption last week. A meteor strike right near the UFO followed by a strange UFO flying up from where the meteor had landed. And we're hearing from experts that it certainly must have been just a satellite passing over the erupting volcano after a meteor struck. I got to tell you, remember some crows. crazy odds to happen all at once.

Now, people are saying aliens, I don't know, you know. But with all the alien disclosure talk, the story is particularly interesting. So we'll talk about that. And then, of course, tomorrow we get the big race in L.A. with Spencer Pratt. And people are saying he's likely to advance to the runoff. We call this a jungle primary. He might actually make it. Now, does he beat Karen Bass?

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Don't forget, my friends, to smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Jesse Arm. Thanks for having me. Good to be here. Who are you? What do you do? My name is Jesse Arm. I'm a vice president at the Manhattan Institute.

I'm also a pollster. My background is in data analytics, predictive modeling, and a lot of the kind of numbersy stuff that goes around with politics. And I do a lot of work on political coalitions and policy. dynamics shaping our politics today. Right on. Should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Brett's hanging out. What is going on, guys? Yes, if you don't know who I am, Brett, it's been what, like a week? Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. We should join us there, but we're going to talk about politics, aren't we, Phil? We got Carter probably. Well, that was going to be a surprise, but Carter's pressing the buttons.

No one saw that at all yet, but we're pressing buttons and we all have our guy back. Hello, everybody. Thank you for having me back. I appreciate it. I have been gone for a month because I was out yelling at a stick and enjoying the stage playing for all that remains. But it's good to be back. Let's get back into it. Here's the news. We got this tweet. It's a screenshot from the Wall Street Journal that reads,

In one message seen by the Wall Street Journal, Plattner refers to his penis as Meinfurr and asks the woman if she would like for Plattner to Blitzkrieg that has. Now, this story, of course, has to do with this scandal that is rocking the Platner campaign. And I have to stress this, the funniest thing about it is that dude can literally have a Nazi tat. I'm not being light when I say Nazi. Like he literally had the toten conf. The Nazi SS skull and crossbones on his chest. That's not an accident. He got it in Croatia where Nazi imagery is illegal to be displayed. This was not an accident to have on his chest

for 20 years. People have said he was a history buff. And so when that was uncovered, Democrats didn't care. You know, he did not sink in the polls. He actually skyrocketed in the polls. And I've been saying people need to listen. There are, you know, we had this debate on the show a couple weeks ago. I'm not saying every Democrat is the real racist or the real Nazis. I'm saying there are white supremacists who vote for Democrats for one of two reasons or an overlap, accelerationism and identitarianism.

They may understand that Democrats don't like white people, but they still push for laws that would allow racial segregation. and many of these people will take it. So when you get a Democrat with a literal Nazi tattoo for two decades makes you question it. But here's the best part. Only now that is being accused of being a sex pest are they actually threatening his campaign? And Mills, the other Democrat who is the corporate dam who was running in the primary, is now reminding everybody that she's still running.

Now, I do have to stress this. This screenshot is fake. I do not believe he actually called his penis mine furor and asked a woman if she would like for him to Blitzkrieg, that ass. Doesn't seem realistic if he didn't say the second part in German, too. I want to believe, though. Yeah. You know, you said, no, because that makes him sound cool. You said, people are saying that he's a, he was a World War II history buff or whatever.

There was this guy that used to play in a band called Slayer. His name was Jeff Hanneman. And he was a World War II history buff. he had all kinds of paraphernalia and stuff he didn't have a tote and cough tattoo right like he he didn't go that extra step to really drive it home i mean i'm not sure

exactly where Plattener's head was at when he got it but you know you 20 years yeah 20 years is a long time he's got a long record of being just a basically bottom of the barrel scum human i mean you can run down the list with this guy platiner yeah he is somebody

who talked about seeing guys get killed. Purple heart recipient, soldiers fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan get killed, and his comment was that they deserve to die. It was the Reddit stuff, right? He's got a treasure trove of psychotic stuff that this guy was posting on Reddit. I mean, putting the racism, the misogynist stuff, you know, the various different kinds of psychotic bigotry aside from the Reddit account, he was also talking about masturbating in public porta-potties every time he sees a porta potty and he smells that blue liquid that fills those porta potties, he gets to master it.

He's a grade A sicko. I hate to, it's true. Here's the story. This is from ABC4. Platner joked about porta potty masturbation and penile graffiti. It's funny because they're like, he's joking when he says he's into these things. And I'm like, or he's not. I don't know.

But it's exactly what you said, right? It's like, so you read this thing from the Nazi tattoo, Reddit brained, far left. He's also obviously said he was a communist, said he was a socialist. Now he says he's a socialist. Back in the day on Reddit, he was talking about how he's a communist. Yeah. Nazi communist socialist, he's got all the bases covered. And this is who the Democratic Party rallies behind in Maine to beat big, bad, scary Susan Collins,

who is like pro-choice and the most centrist Republican in the entire Senate. I didn't check the numbers prior to all of this going on, but did it look like he had a chance to beat Susan Collins? Yeah, he's beating her in most. He's the favorite. But the thing about Susan Collins is she tends to overperform expectations. And she's a survivor. And she's gotten knocked out. In a couple of elections now, the polling has suggested that Susan Collins is going to lose leading into election day.

Six years ago, that's what the polling said. And then she came back and won. Just real quick, I pulled up Kalshi, right? Main Senate winner, Democratic Party, Republican Party. and you can see here that the Nazi scandal had little to no impact on Platner at all. He is just considered the favorite to win. It wasn't until now he's dropping rapidly. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, he's a Nazi.

That's fine. Waits. He texted inappropriate things to women. He's gone. Why do you think it is, since you are a pollster? Why do you think it is that she overperforms and then, like, obviously, has, like, you said, like she gets a lot of stories where it looks like she's doing bad, but then she ends up doing better. Why do you think that is?

I think there are weird idiosyncratic reasons. Like Maine is a really hard state to poll with a lot of cross-partisan voters, meaning voters who may be registered as a Democrat or consistently vote for Democrats in presidential election, but are independent-minded. You ever see that meme of the guy wearing the shirt? I think it might be in like Vermont, but there's a spiritually similar voter in Maine, and the shirt says, I love my AR-15 and my trans son. Like there's a lot of weirdos like that who just have kind of,

politics all over the map, hard to pin down ideologically, especially in the northeast, in those backwoods of Maine. But I think that's partially why Susan Collins is such a survivor there. She's actually kind of a centrist. She's willing to buck her party. She's not the way we conceive of like a political outsider, right, someone who doesn't fit into a camp neatly. Oh, that's got to be someone who's super duper populist or super duper like maha or granola crunchy. And actually sometimes it can be Susan Collins, who's just kind of a pro-business, milk toast, moderate Republican who doesn't get too animated over cultural issues. But I think that's why they go for a platinum. If Susan Collins is attacking the middle of the row, then what are Democrats offering?

So that's why so many people. And basically that's why I think the Nazi scandal didn't break early. because there are a lot of people in the Democratic consultant class who convinced themselves that we need someone who doesn't fit the natural paradigm either. We need Grant Platner because he goes on a white supremacist, Nazi guys podcast. This is another story. If you look it up, you'll find, and says, hey, really excited to be here. I'm a longtime listener and fan of them.

Because that's what Democrats think. This was the discourse after 2024, too, when Trump won, right? and the Democrats with this broken party. And they were all talking about, we need the liberal Joe Rogan. We're not going to be able to move forward if we don't have the liberal Joe Rogan. And who did they convince themselves?

Was the liberal Joe Rogan, Housan Hiker, who is like a third worldist, like, simp for Islamist. He's kind of obsessed with a lot of my colleagues at the Manhattan Institute. He's put us on blast a couple of times. He doesn't connect with regular people.

He doesn't talk about regular people issues. He's hyper esoteric. That's the best they can do. Well, now he's banned from the UK's. I mean, is platinum. appeal to the Democrats the fact that he's like a white guy and they're like, well, maybe we can go ahead and kind of reach the quote unquote normal Democrat with him? That strikes at something very accurate. And this is hilarious. Something else that happened a few weeks ago was that

a Democratic consultant at a political consulting firm based in New York, I think slingshot strategies, reaches out to Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports and tries to get him to participate in some kind of podcast, crossover, video content distribution event with Graham Platner because Graham Platner is going to be talking about the owner of the Boston Red Sox and how he's a grubby, I don't know, private equity guy or whatever. There's some critique with him. And like, this is how Democrats think. They just assume, oh, we have a gruff white guy running for Senate in Maine.

Dave Portnoy is a gruff white guy. Let's reach out to Dave Portnoy and see if he'll talk. It's like, no, dude, Dave Portnoy is Jewish, doesn't hate Israel, and also like a pro-business, moderate Republican. He's not going to be positively inclined to doing a powwow, wonderful, friendly chat with Nazi tattoo, psycho, Reddit brain guy you're running for Senate and Maine. It's not going to happen. Was the idea supposed to be that it wasn't going to be adversarial? Like he wasn't going to be pushing back on him in some way? It was supposed to just solely be about the Boston Red Sox and stuff?

Yeah, that they would bro out over the Boston Red Sox and how bad the owner is. That seems unlikely. I think their logic was Dave Portnoy doesn't like the owner of the Boston Red Sox. Yeah, I mean. But they don't even stop to think, oh, this is exactly the kind of candidate. Dave Portnoy would despise. Yeah, I mean. Because, oh, he's a white guy.

think that... Tim Walts is a football coach. We can just trot him out there and a bunch of dumb white jocks will vote for the Democrats. Do you think that it's just a lack of understanding of what it is that, you know, the general conservative

or maybe even the non-woke people are looking for it because if you look at Plattner and the things that he said in the past, never mind the scandalous stuff, but like the statements that he makes, he's just as woke as, you know, Ilhan Omar or AOC. there's no significant light between any of those people. So it's like, is it all just identity with them?

Where they're just like, well, it's a white guy and we can go ahead and put this face out there. But the policies are going to be the kind of policies that the Democrats have been pushing and failing on for the past decade. Yeah, they would never countenance a Susan Collins, right? Someone who's actually a little bit of a moderate on policy. The Republicans are. Donald Trump, it's pretty clear that Susan Collins is not his. favorite U.S. Senator, but he is willing to tolerate some amount of ideological diversity within the conservative coalition, especially if that's going to get you a candidate elected.

The Democrats are not. That's why Graham Platner is out there. And in practice, he's not more moderate on like economic issues than the median Democrat in Congress. He's the exact same. He tends to align more with the further left wing of the Democrats. You're right. I'm sorry. He's a bit further to the left. Yeah, yeah. I mean, because that's the only thing they can come up with. Look at this guy, Talarico, James Taurico, running for Senate in Texas, too. I don't want to take us too far off topic to another race, but here's another guy who they said, oh, he talks about God. He talks about the Bible. He's a, he's a preacher of some kind. He's a pastor of some kind. Do you know what GADAR is? Your GADAR is going wild for Colorado. I don't, I don't have a GADAR,

but the empty slot where one would have been is on fire when I see that man speak. You know, I'm not somebody, I mean, to be fair, the joke is that... Stephen Miller called him the first transgender candidate. Yeah, he's just insulting him, but there's this, there's a scientific study about gay face, and they put random, they showed random people, pictures of people, men who are straight or gay, and people can like, to 70% accuracy tell you if someone is gay based on their face. Yeah. And I'm just like, dude, ask any honest person, they see Tala Rico and they're like, oh, he's gay.

But this is the thing. As you said, Phil, it's like Tala Rico was assumed by Democrats to be the kind of candidate who would break through in Texas because he sprinkles in God and Jesus in here and there. What's he saying about God and Jesus? Oh, God is non-binary. Oh, science tells us there are six biological sex. And abortions allowed. Heresy. abortions in the Bible.

And homosexuality is allowed in the Bible. Mary wasn't really a virgin. And Mary was given the choice to abort Jesus. Call the Space Marines. He's a heretic. Space Marines. It's like they just read the basic characteristics of them and then didn't get any farther into the Apo research.

I'd like to talk about the state of the Democratic Party with this video we have from Breitbart. Woke Overload. Democrat lawmakers Yasimin Ansari, Adelita Grehalva, and Rashidtlai, recently at the press conference on how much their periods hurt and how it is economic violence

when their employers don't pay women to stay home and work when they're menstruate. Here we go. Today we are here to talk about women's pain and how long it's been overlooked. In the summer of 2015, while starting my career in New York City, I woke up on the floor of my local bodega,

drenched in sweat, being dragged into an ambulance. Two male paramedics hovered over me and continued to ask me if I was pregnant. I had passed out from period pain. Even now, every month, I have days where it feels like barbed wire is tightening inside me. I've taken 2,000 milligrams of ibuprofen in 24 hours and still been in tears from the pain, often end up on the bathroom floor in the fetal position, crying, moaning, or vomiting. Still, I've put on a blazer and gone to work. I've sat in committee hearings, nauseous from the pain, quietly breathing to make my way through it.

will overcome. I've seen speeches at rallies and run town halls while my body was in full revolts. I smiled for photos while silently wondering if I might faint right then and there. Now imagine if she has ended the speech by saying, and that's why I'm resigning from Congress and will continue to advocate that no woman hold any job in public policy ever again. Then I'd be like, now the speech makes sense. She's like, I can't do it anymore. Bro, what is this? I don't want to hear about Rashida Talib's period pain. And I don't understand and what Congress is supposed to do about your period pain. We need a...

It's like government has an answer for period pain? It's just women emoting. What is the government's solution to period pain? They're going to outlaw. They're going to pass a... We need like Alex Stein to a press conference where he's like, the other night, I went to Taco Bell, and then I woke up on my bathroom floor at 3 a.m.

And it felt like barbed wire since... I was grinding the weight from my insides. He has to advocate for men with a cold. Because that's the one that the cold Same if you ever see like women always talk about how men complain when they get a cold That said there's like how you could never handle having a period you well you've never understood what it's like to be a man with a head cold All of these women should be embarrassed to be up there like you're you're literally up there complaining about your Biology did you guys ever see the story where

It was this female scientist working in Antarctica and she wrote this op-ed about how it was sexist that they didn't build Outhouses at various points throughout Antarctica because when they would go out on like a research mission the guys if they had to go to the bathroom they just let her rip but the women they can't just do that

it's too cold and so apparently like her supervisor said to buy a funnel and they were like then you can sort of stand and do your thing and she said that it was too embarrassing and it was difficult and when she tried she pissed all over herself and it's just like you know it's just crazy maybe stay home the world is sexual

No, no, no, I accept it. I accept it. The world, human existence is sexist because women can't pee wherever they want and their who-who's hurt once a month. Blame God. You can't blame God. You can't blame men for this. They will.

They will. They're going to. So I was reading an article earlier about Curry Barker and Kane Parsons, who have the two biggest movies in the world right now with obsession and backrooms. And I was reading this article about how the, you know, YouTuber to Hollywood Pipeline is actually sexist because to be successful on YouTube, and this is their example, they gave the Mr. Beast example, where they work long hours that you're not rewarded initially because you won't make money initially. You've got to put a bunch of unpaid labor

into it. And women can't do that because they have, they take up all the emotional labor at home. And they do the majority of the household duties. I said, Mr. Beast was not married when he was becoming famous. All he did was work all day, every day. because that was his prerogative, and they were still framing it as if YouTube wasn't a democratized platform because it rewards things that men prefer, like working longer hours. On the contrary, I think, like, we're, John Doyle had a post about this earlier. Doyle's great.

I was starting to see a little bit more, like, this was the biggest weekend for AMC since, what, Brett, 2019, right? People are going back to the movies again. Oh, it's fantastic. And I think part of the reason that might be happening, is because it's like they're letting the young white dudes cook a little bit, you know? DEI is, I don't know that it's out the window in Hollywood. There's definitely some of it, but like they're letting the young white dudes cook

and now we're getting some great film again. Yes, I would say nature is healing, right? Backrooms was a resounding success and obsession. But Supergirl is tracking to bomb. So is he, man. Well, he really just. But he man is still a real. Millie Alcock is ragging on dudes and calling her movie Girl Power.

and she's like, remember 2022? And everyone's like, please no. And she's like, let's do that again. And they're like, stop. I want to just say that maybe they're letting the white dudes cook a little bit and things are coming back. But guys, it's June 1st. All the major league sports are putting up rainbow flags. Man.

Okay. So I want to say, you know, that we routed woke for a while, but it's rearing its ugly head once again. Maybe they'll all learn their lesson with backrooms and be like, just to make interesting, fun things. But here's the thing for us on a show like this, I think the real issue is not that woke necessarily was completely defeated. I do think that with Bud Light and Target, we crushed woke. It's just that politics has waned dramatically for the obvious reason. The election ended.

Trump had his first 100 days. Then people started to get bored. Now we're halfway through 2026 already. And I think for politics, people just don't care right now. nothing's happening right now politically that they can do anything about. Primaries are very hyper esoteric. So people are like, they're getting back to what matters, hanging out with the boys, going and seeing a fun movie on the weekends.

We used to do these things, remember? And then politics became pop culture. And everybody was just suffering under it. Well, I think we're going to go back to that. I think we're in the eye of the storm. That is, it is passing overhead. We are in the off season. but the midterm races are coming up.

This is going to be apocalyptic. If Democrats win, it'll go nuts. You're going to see subpoenas or arrests. We're going to get freaky. But if Trump wins, Trump going to get freaky. And then we are going to see ignition into 2027 with primaries. And then, of course, 2008 with God knows who is going to run. Maybe Trump just like straps some stem cell IVs to his body and says, I'm going to live forever.

And then we get Trump's eighth term. you know, 2089. Another 40K emperor, or another 40K reference with the God emperor Trump, just sitting on the golden throne. Indeed. That is a very incisive observation, though, and it reminds me a little bit, we were talking about the Talarico stuff.

And I think you said he's just insulting him with respect to Stephen Miller saying that Tala Rico looks transgender or whatever, which is exactly right. It's not a very nice thing to say. But, you know, what happened in response to that? The National Democratic Party's Twitter, account, responds to Stephen Miller, can I swear? I forget what you said.

Well, we try not to say F. Okay. I'm only quoting the National Democratic Party's Twitter account, of course, but responds to Stephen Miller and says, shut up, you ugly F word, okay? And it's like, I thought it was like ugly A-B. I think it was F word, but open to being fact-checked. In any way. Oh, you're right.

You're correct. Shut up, you ugly F. What do we learn from that? I think Tauriko is actually kind of, you know, noticing right now. Like, oh crap, I said a lot of crazy stuff at peak woke right around 2020. And now, like, the Republicans nominated the less moderate option. Trump endorsed him. Like, he's got his own scandals. I maybe have a shot at being the first senator elected from Texas as a Democrat since, you know, 1988, I think it is. So I got to move. But he's at least

trying to move off of some of the crazy stuff. He's saying. And the Democrats won't let up because the Democrats are too busy going at Stephen Miller's throat. This tweet, I think, is the perfect example. It is indicative of a civil war. And what I mean by that is the Democratic Party is broke. They're $3 million in debt and nobody's donating to them. They've dropped all pretense. Shut up, you ugly F.

They don't care anymore. They're not trying. Republicans are donating to the political Republican machine. standing up wearing suits and ties saying, we should vote and support our candidates. And Democrats are saying, fund extremists and terrorists and burn it all down. We are looking at prominent Democrat donors no longer giving money to the Democratic Party. They're giving money to far left extremists and activist organizations. Yeah.

If this trend continues, where do you think it goes? Democrats are trying to win power through external force. Republicans are trying to win power through institutional force. that's going to end with one conflict. And it's why when Republicans have institutional power, they need to be unafraid of exercise. Yes. Well, they're terrified to use it.

Look, this is, this crap is going around all over the country right now. Every time I see a protest where whether it's, you know, the Gaza people or the climate people or the LGBTQIA alphabet people, and they're blocking a road or they're harassing people sitting at an outdoor a restaurant, I just want to scream because I'm like, that's illegal. Do you think that... Do you think that the... We talked about how Republicans aren't really exercising the power that they've been given by being elected. Do you think that the primary so far have kind of shown to the Republicans,

hey, look, you need to do the will of the voters? Because I know that, that, I think it was Paxton, won the primary in Texas, right? Yeah, he had the end. I know what you're going to say. And the point that I'm making is just there were people that were incumbents that were not what you would consider MAGA people that were not really interested in doing the will of the voter. Do you think that that's going to change? Well, look, the perfect example of that is Thomas Massey, right? You don't get elected to vote no on everything all the time. And then you say, I stuck to my principles, but also I voted against, like, Trump's tax cut. I voted against border funding.

And you can, and I understand, like, the sympathetic. view to the libertarian position. But at the same time, if you're not a wheeler and dealer, you're not somebody who's cutting deals in Washington, you're going to get burned. Well, the issue is that there's a war going on. And in whatever respect, war would mean. There's a psychological war. There is a cultural war. And for many people who are Trump supporters, their attitude is, it may violate your principles, but we are fighting an existential crisis. The libertarians have always been in a wacky position. Like even right now, the libertarians are claiming massy could win 2028. I'm going to say this, clearly, to the camera, there is no reality where Thomas

Massey wins a presidential race in 28. You can bet on it. You can say whatever you want. Could I win a Republican primary in his own district where he's like, uh, where he has like a 100% name ID. I mean, you can't win there. You're not winning a presidential. But here's the thing. If y'all want to scream APEC in Israel, you're allowed to do that. You think he's going to go up against the national machine and win when he's up against, in your mind, you think Israel's going to, wants to stop him there? You think there'll be anywhere near the presidency?

If you think Israel killed Charlie Kirk, you think Thomas Massey can win a presidential primary and run as a Republican nominee? It doesn't make. It doesn't make any sense. I don't understand how someone could say that a seven-term incumbent that lost his congressional seat

is then going to go on and win the presidency. It's also stupid. It's like Deepak is a collection of Americans who have a a lot of independent wealth who think that there's advantages to the United States by having a positive working relationship with Jewish Wakanda hanging out in the Middle East that makes a lot of super weapons. It's like, okay.

And by the way, that's not Israel spending their money in our elections to meddle. It's a lot of Americans who have that view. And you can be unhappy with it, but they're wealthy and they're gonna spend a lot of money in politics. And I do wanna point out one thing, like there's a lot of sitting here that have been very, very friendly towards Thomas Massing

and a really, really good opinion of Thomas Massey. I still do. I still think that he was, like, I liked him a lot. I liked the jet clock. And that was great. And to be honest. And the clock's capacity, he's a chicken guy, you know? You know, I mean, what did that do again?

So it was a chicken coop that was on a solar powered motorized cable system that would slowly move so the chickens were always over fresh grass. And he said that you can see the trail behind the coop. is all lush green grass from the chicken poop. It's amazing. And he built it from scratch. His house out of the grade. He's a genius.

Look, I think Thomas Massey is very principled. He's a smart guy. He's a good and honorable man. Out of politics. Exactly. Politics is not a place for a good and honorable man. He's an inventor. Be an inventor.

But that's why I'm a fan of it. I wish everybody in Congress was like Thomas Massey. The problem is Democrats are not. The Republicans are reluctant in all of their use of power. disagree with Massey on a bunch of these issues when he votes against Trump's plans. And I'll say it outright, I understand that the policy position pushed by Trump is going to result in deficit spending. We're already in a bad position.

But Democrats are trying to give kids sex changes, open our borders. So we're dealing with an existential crisis on all fronts. Now is not the time to stand up and just be like, I will stand here on this hollowed ground of my principles even as I am washed aflame and burned to death. The other thing, Tim, about Massey, is that the only two. time he could ever wheel and deal or operate with folks on the other side of the aisle. It wasn't to sneak in amendments that were going to be helpful for his home district in like big omnibus spending bills.

It was like, let me go shippost with Roe Kana and like get a random guy who appeared in a lineup with some other people in the Epstein files and expose this dude who's a dentist and docs him for the whole world. Like this is not stuff that's particularly constructive. And that's what his voters felt like. I agree. I will, the young people of it, I will applaud Rokana and Massey for fighting on the Epstein issue and wanting to get those documents released.

Flat and of its own principled position, I would like to see the Epstein files released. We want to get to the bottom of this. That being said, come on, man, these guys weren't fighting this stuff when Biden was in office and they could have. And it's just, I'm sorry. I'll call it bad. timing. Trump gets in. Trump flubs the whole thing. Bonino flubs it. Pam Bondi, they all flub it. All of it was bad. The binder gate was bad. All of it's bad. I like the general idea.

But once again, the bigger question is, do we want to stand on our principles while we're being fired upon by lunatics? Or do we say, guys, we have to win an existential crisis before, you know, you got to put the oxygen mask on yourself before you put it on the people next to you. So I would just say, Massey does well with young people, but now boomers, and boomers ain't going to be around forever. So I'll be curious to see where this actually goes. It's also young Republicans are a little bit of an oxymoronic demographic in and of itself. Most people become Republicans when they're older. People are liberal.

You asked me a question about polling earlier. That's like an important thing to understand about polling. Anytime you see polling of young Republicans, you have to keep in mind that you're looking at a deeply eccentric group in and of itself. Well, you've got inverted. it's not that young people become Republicans, it's that Republicans adapt to young people. So if you look at the political positions held by Republicans today, Republicans 10 years ago would have been like, are you out of your mind? Donald Trump unfurled a pride flag at the RNC in 2016 and they applauded him for it. Go back 10 years, never going to happen.

As young people, as the political consultants see, we need to attract people who care about low tax. And what was the big trend back, you know, 2012? It was socially, it was socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Yeah, now it's kind of the opposite. Right, now it's... But I don't know. I mean, it kind of depends on the issue, no. Like, Trump moved the party rightward on immigration.

The party was much... Why not? Why? Why do you think? Because back in 2008, everyone was an agreement left and right, Democrat Republican, on building a border wall. Even Hillary Clinton said to build a border wall. Trump maintained the position. Yeah. To be fair, you did have...

you did have prominent donors like the Koch brothers that were in favor of... Who were in the driver's seat of the GOP, and there's, you know, amnesty was something that was more on the table, gang of aid. I mean, look at Marco Rubio was way more moderate on immigration all those years ago. So I do think, but ultimately, I agree with you. Hillary Clinton said build a border wall. Yes, yes. Well, the Democrats were more to the right on immigration. Absolutely.

But I think the Republicans were more to the left and Trump pulled them to the right. But here's what I will say, you're right on net, Donald Trump, and this is so lost on most people who talk about politics and observe politics. Donald Trump is a massive moderating force on the Republican Party, and that is partially why he's helped them yield a lot of political success. That's actually really interesting, too, considering you're saying that one of the things he did pull them rightward on was immigration, which is one of the biggest crux is for the liberals, is that they have now come so far down the other side on that issue, is they're making it seem like everything Trump does is far right when, for the most part, he's been moderate in most of his other states. We've also got people on our side that are a little bit disingenuous about Trump's position on immigration, right? Suggesting that, like, Trump is not a hardcore restrictionist. Every time Trump talks about immigration, he's like, I want the talented people. I want the smart people.

H-1B visas. Yeah, and this was, you know, we do have some trouble within the family on this issue, right? Some internal disagreement. But Donald Trump's position on that is selectionist. We'll take the good people and leave the bad ones. The problem is though, is like even if he does have a more open position on immigration, it doesn't actually matter because ICE does so many hype reels and videos that end up giving them bad press that functionally doesn't matter because it makes them look uncaring. Let's jump to the international news here from the BBC. Hassan Piker, Jank Yugar, have been denied entry to the UK by the home office.

This is BBC reporting. Two left-wing content creators have been blocked from enter. during the UK, after they said the home office revoked their visas, Hassan Piker and Jank Yugar were due to speak at South by Southwest London Festival and an event in Oxford, the pair of blast UK government claiming they were banned for criticizing Israel. I just want to stress no, they're banned because they're high-profile forces that could be disruptive. Many right-wing individuals were banned her mentoring recently as well. There were, I believe, 11 individuals associated with Tommy Robinson's, United the Kingdom

rally two weeks ago had their visas denied. I'll say a couple of things. Tommy invited me to come hang out. I don't remember the specifics. We had time in the show. And he was like, why don't you guys come to the rally? It'll be fantastic. And my wife and I were like, that sounds like a lot of fun to go to the UK. And then ultimately, we decided not to pursue it. One of the reasons why is that we ended up getting invited. I got invited to debate at the Oxford Union. And I said, let's chill because I'm pretty sure if I try to apply for an ETA to the UK, they're going to deny me. And the same thing is true for Oxford Union. So we kind of just trying to lay low here, because I don't want to intentionally, like, if I try to get a visa for China, they'd just be like, we'd like to inform you. You're

banned forever. So I'm like, let's just not have that on my permanent record. The point is, the UK has been ban-hammering tons of people. And because of this, we've been trying, or I should say I have been trying just not to just, you know, keep my head down for the time being. If we have to go for some reason, I want to be able to, and these are a couple reasons that are pretty good. What I will say is, I don't know exactly what his pitch was or what he was supposed to do with the Oxford Union. They invited me to debate the Constitution that Donald Trump has betrayed the Constitution. And I believe Michael Knowles said that he will be there debating as well. But I'm going to say this. I don't like Hassan Piker.

Jank has got bad ideas, but he's all right. However, how are you supposed to have meaningful debate if the people who are prominent in influential to debate can't come to debate? This besmirches the prestige of the Oxford Union debate hall because the government is not allowing people to come in and actually have those debate. People have influence. Wouldn't even let Kanye in. They wouldn't let him in. I think they banned Lauren Southern back in the day as well. Lawrence Southern, definitely Nick Fuentes.

Nick Fuentes just went. But here's the best part. Someone on Hassan's chat said sneak in and he goes, that's not a thing. You can't sneak into the UK. And I'm just like, that's how you know the dude doesn't read the news. That's how you know Hassan doesn't actually know what's happening in the world. Yeah. Like this is the principal political issue that's led to partially, I should say, reform UK and unite the kingdom that literally people sneak into the country.

But, you know, and then someone said go to Ireland. And he's like, it's not about being in the vicinity. I'm supposed to go to the UK. Well, welcome to politics, my friend. Ain't going to happen. This is the thing. I mean, the UK does not have American-style First Amendment protections for speech. They just don't.

They've cited this reason. They'll arrest you for praying. Yeah. I mean, we know about that. We see about it all the time. And it's like, I think the reason cited was his presence wouldn't be conducive to the public good for that's the same reason that they said that Valentina Gomez and all these other people who are going to come participate in the Tommy Robinson event were. were denied entry. I think they said the same thing for Kanye,

like conducive to the public good. Yeah, I buy it. I mean, but look, at the same time, I'm not spilling a whole lot of tears for like, look, at some level, I kind of want America to do more of this, like as it pertains to foreign nationals. Indeed.

Who are abroad. People who do not grant First Amendment rights to under our constitution. I don't want people like Hassan Piker coming into my country. It makes it worse. He was born in the U.S. I don't want people like Hassan Piker in our country at all. I think you should be said back to the issue.

Why should, you know, the comments here we see from, you know, Glenn Greenwald and many other prominent liberals is that, and even Hassan himself, this is what Trump has created when they start deporting people for criticizing Israel. And my point is, how can a country survive if they open their doors to their enemies to come and espouse a message against them? No, don't get me wrong. The Israel thing I get.

Like the conundrum there is Trump and the U.S., as well as Israel and APEC, do not want people who are going to come in and advocate against U.S. military strategy, their allies, their spending, et cetera. However, I think it's fair to say that for many activists, the idea that coming to the United States, like if you're a student and you're critical of Israel, they deport you, it's like, I'm not talking about United States. But again, the argument is you're disruptive to our military alliances or whatever. my point ultimately is

should we tolerate opening our door to tourists and students who are coming here for the explicit purpose of denouncing us and advocating to our young people

to hate their own country you can't survive if that's the case this is the reality of politics you get all these people here's my debate okay they said the debate that they wanted me

to be a part of was Donald Trump has betrayed the constitution And my response is which one? There is no constitution. The Democrats have their own version where they believe hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment. The right believes it is. The left believes Second Amendment doesn't protect the rights to keep in bare arms.

And the right believes it does. The Constitution has been amended and reinterpreted over and over again. The people believe wildly different things. What I can say is this. It is an exploitation of the left onto the right to say, you have to stand on your your principles of free speech. Meanwhile, they would argue you can't say naughty words. They'll fire you from your job. They will make it so you can never work again, kick you out of your school, ban you from social media and video games if you say naughty words, then argue you have to allow

in foreigners into your country under your own principles to disparage your nation and you. And I say nonsense, nonsense. That's right. That's right. That's exactly right. Look, Mahmood Khalil, comes to mind, right? This is someone who is essentially like you invite a party guest over for a house party, and then they come and take a piss on the rug. It's like, I've invited you as a guest into my country to come learn from my university, hopefully earn a degree that leads to you doing constructive. Hopefully my country benefits from that education you receive and you work here. But if that doesn't work out, and you come here, exclusively. to agitate against this country's interests and to engage in civil terrorism day in and day out by

blocking roads and interrupting classes and harassing people sitting outdoors at restaurants. You have not been a very good guest and I would like to see you removed. I don't get particular, I don't disagree with you that it would be bad if the Oxford Union said Hassan Piker, we don't want you speaking because. No, no, I'm not putting it on them. is saying this foreign citizen. I'm saying Oxford has invited him. And the UK government is barring it,

which besmirches the debate hall itself. That's fair. The idea is Hassan is massively influential among the left, but the politics have made it impossible for the Oxford. And I'm not saying like it's the wrong thing necessarily. I'm saying that how can you have a prestigious debate hall when people are barred from coming to it? Now, that being said...

Part of the problem is that the global left has elevated Hassan Piker as one of his spokesman for its causes, someone so grotesque and an anti-Western that the UK is literally saying you cannot. Yeah, but they're betting Tommy Robinson's friends too. And many of those guys are pro-Israel. I know. The ultimate issue is this. The sooner the American traditionalists, like actual American republicanists, understand the nature of a constitution, the sooner we actually see them fight back and win. And the point is Republicans, conservatives, Say things like, I believe in the Constitution. You then get a person like Hassan who challenges you under your interpretation to uphold the

Constitution, well, not caring whatsoever whether they do or don't. That is, the right, I hear this all the time from people on the right where they say, I support the Constitution, the left doesn't. And my response is, which interpretation of the First Amendment is the one you're fighting for? 1781, 1791, 18291, 1829, 1956, tell me where you draw the line on which constitutional First Amendment you're actually agreeing with. Because if you want to go back to the founders, then blasphemy is illegal.

There are a lot of conservatives that want that to be the case. My point is this. The Constitution just means the body politic. And right now there are two in this country. So you've got to decide what you are willing to stand up for. And this idea that you're fighting for the founding fathers' visions is just not correct. It can be correct in the sense that they open the door to amending the Constitution so that we can do things a little differently as times change. The problem now is

you have two distinct worldviews and one says we don't care about what is written down. The other does. If the right is constrained by their interpretation of the Constitution and the left is not, the right will be flattened. Well, generally speaking, progressives are not advocating for amendments to the Constitution. They're advocating for selective reinterpretation that just confirms their current worldview. So is the right. Advocating for the Supreme Court to reinterpret the Constitution as it's written to be more accommodating to their worldview. And the conservatives are too. I mean,

what do you, like, what comes to mind? DCV. Heller, McDonald v. Chicago. The original interpretation of the Second Amendment was that the federal government could not take your guns, but the laws were left unto the states to deal with themselves. That meant if Virginia wanted to ban guns, they could, but the federal government couldn't send armed forces to come and take your guns away. In 2008, the right decided, and I love it because I agree with it, that this federal protection should extend and constrain the states as well, despite the fact we have a 10th Amendment, which is supposed to protect the states from this. So conservatives like to say, oh, I believe in the Constitution. I'm like, yeah, well, the 10th Amendment would stop you from forcing Virginia to be held to the federal constitutional standards. The states were supposed to be allowed to enforce the laws as they saw it.

And if you didn't like Virginia, you'd move somewhere else. We can say the same thing with basically all of them. My favorite right now is the Seventh Amendment, in which case we actually, the Seventh Amendment doesn't even exist, the right to civil trials for things. We just to inflation. Seventh Amendment protects your right to a jury trial on civil matters, $700 or more. That's the Seventh Amendment. You have no guarantee of this.

They can force you into arbitration, even though it's a constitutional right. So ultimately my point is you take a look now at the 14th Amendment and the left and the right are both arguing what it's really supposed to mean. And the left says it means anyone who comes here and is born as a citizen. And the right says no, it meant anyone who was born. It doesn't matter if you think you're right or wrong. That's a good example of the right seeking to, you know, playing the reinterpretation role because the plain reading of the 14th Amendment is probably closer to. No, I agree with the right. I agree with the right.

I agree with the right too. But the idea was that when they said anyone who was born here is a citizen, they meant past tense, not future. They were saying, at this point, if you were born in this country, we are stating you're a citizen. They didn't mean for it to be, and moving infinity into the future, everyone will be a citizen. The idea was the 13th Amendment abolished slavery except in the instance of a duly convicted crime. And the 4th Amendment made sure that slaves were citizens. That's why even with the 14th Amendment, it didn't include Native. Americans. It was specifically, you're a slave, you are born here. As of today, you're all citizens,

slavery's gone. And then the left in, was it Wong Kim Ark or whatever in like 1890s, reinterpreted that under a textualist argument to say literally everybody from any point moving forward is going to be a citizen. My point ultimately is we can say we're right about what the Constitution is supposed to do. There are many areas where the conservatives are completely wrong. Let me ask you a question. Do you think, let's say you're walking down the street and there's a guy standing on a street corner and he blurts out, Christ is not king. Should he be arrested?

Yeah. But the founding fathers thought he should be. The founding fathers' blasphemy was illegal. I believe. The founding fathers probably would have had some amount of internal disagreement. Absolutely not. It was a crime and people were jailed, hardcore for blasphemy up to the mid-1800s when we had the Supreme Court ruling that confirmed that.

conviction of a man who said something to the effect of Christ is not king. It was a universal Unitarian. Contra freedom of religion. No, because we didn't have freedom of religion. Freedom of religion in 1789 meant you can be a Protestant or a Catholic. You had to affirm. But it all, but it didn't matter. They could not hold office in the United States.

They could not hold office in United States. But in the first amendment, it doesn't say that it doesn't say that you have a freedom of religion. It says that Congress will make no law respecting a religion. And the reason. reason why is because the states did. I think Jews could hold office. Back then they could not. You had to be an avowed, you had to express a belief in a Christian God. And so this started to get amended out of state constitutions and laws in the mid to late 1700s. Maryland, so most of the

states required you to profess a faith in a Protestant God except for, I think Virginia, because Jefferson was a deist, and said, just believe in God and you're good, in which case Jews could. and then you had Maryland, which was Catholic colony. So they didn't say Protestant. They said whatever. And I think Connecticut was similarly. They started to remove these provisions or amend them into the 1800s near the end of the 1700s, specifically because they were Catholics and Protestants that were kind of at odds.

So when they said freedom of religion, if you look at it was actually going on, they were saying, you have a freedom to be Catholic or Protestant, was basically it. In the early to mid-1800, some guy was universal unitarian, he blasphemed. and this is the last time it went to Supreme Court and they upheld his conviction. And then I believe the formal end to blasphemy was 1956, a Supreme Court interpretation. So this is my point. A conservative today who says the left reinterprets the Constitution, I would argue you are doing the same thing right now. Not to be fair, a lot of Christian conservatives would be like, okay, let's go back to blasphemy laws.

Christ is king. Yeah, probably. But I think the evolution of this country politically has been to allow, anyone to worship as they see fit, that defies the founding father's vision for this country. Now, to be fair, the founding fathers had amendments as a part of the Constitution so that these things could change and a Supreme Court to interpret these things. But here we are today questioning whether or not we should support the Constitution while not, for the large part, being cognizant to the fact. And liberals are that we're just choosing the values of the

collective on the right, which is a disparate collective of various individuals, various different political factions, libertarians, conservative, MAGA, populists or otherwise neocons. The liberals, the left, like Hassan Piker, you go to private meetings, to these people, activist meetings, they will tell you explicitly they know everything I said. Their whole postmodernist worldview is, the truth is what we decide. And they will lie to you so they can get power. If the right is not aware of these issues pertaining to the constitution and the body politic, then they will get crushed by a manipulative left.

that will exploit their good faith in American institutions. And they've been doing it for a long time. Again, when they say to you, do you believe in free speech? And you're like, yes, then why would you ban the Muslim foreigner who came here espousing jihad? It's like, well, because he wants to kill me. Oh, but you believe in free speech, right? Listen, I say free speech. I mean that if you're an American citizen, if you were born here and you have criticisms of the

governments, no matter what they may be, even if you're a jihadi or whatever, you're allowed to do it. But the idea that we invite foreigners to come in and expand upon that dissent and to inflame it or fund it is insane. The idea that we would allow foreign nations, be it Qatar or Israel, to fund political sentiment in this country and manipulate it, is insane. And then they go, but don't you believe in free speech? No, not that. Free speech, you want to go back to the founding fathers? Fine. No blasphemy.

Get all these foreign countries out of here. Everyone's got to say, Christ is king. Obviously, we're not for that. in which case you asked me what I'm for in terms of free speech, the right of an American citizen to express their political worldview. American citizen being the operative word there that makes the Mahmoud Khalil situation a little bit more flexible for sure. I just wonder how much of that is just because we become such,

like so much of the country is inflamed now around the idea of immigration that this is just not something that people were thinking about even 15 years ago. Indeed, scale is always an issue. I talk about this with censorship because I love this line. You know, these liberals who never watch this show and have no idea what I think, they'll be like, aren't you an anti-censorship guy? And I'm like, no, I love censorship. I'm a huge censorship proponent. Michael Knowles was talking about that just yesterday. Because of the context of this. Because of a son. Yeah. I have maintained this position since the whole fight over woke censorship and

big tech censorship began. First, private platforms can ban whoever they want. I think so. The issue becomes scale. If the president can only meaningfully communicate, in a privately owned stadium, you've created a public harm when you ban random people through private choice. This is why we have something called publicly owned private spaces. There are special rules pertaining to property when, so this is this, this pretends to occupy Wall Street. Hence, I've always had this position. Somebody bought a piece of land in Manhattan, turned it into a park. The city then says, okay, it's privately owned, but it's a public space, therefore public rules

apply. You cannot ban people willy-nilly. It's going to be considered public now. So my argument is the line in which Twitter or Facebook X now loses their right to ban people willy-nilly is when they become monopolistic. And not even necessarily monopolistic, but duopolyistic or triopolisic or whatever it might be. There's like three big tech platforms from communication. If you are to ban someone from any one of those platforms, the idea that I can go to Facebook is not correct if Facebook is banning me.

So the other thing, too, is censorship is good. Censorship means getting rid of gore, child abuse, you know, crime. Crime videos, advocacy for crime. These things are all good. Fire in a crowded movie theater. That's actually allowed. That's always been allowed. Really?

Brandon Berg v. Ohio. We can yell fire in Ohio. Indeed, that is a myth. This goes back to what, like 1930, was it 60s, I think? Where the Supreme Court explicitly stated, you are allowed to yell fire in a crowded theater. Somehow that got inverted. How come? That seems dangerous.

Because you have a right to free speech. Oh. The idea of yelling fire in a crowded theater when there isn't one, can create panic, but not imminent lawless action. So, indeed, you can. In fact, you can own a cannon too. There's something that we hear for a lot from liberals. They say, you're not going to canon, are you?

You are. I can have a musket. I've actually got a musket right behind me. I have a Civil War Union musket. And I can fly on a plane with that thing. Oh, yeah? Indeed, they're not considered firearms. They're old.

So you can carry a flint-locked pistol on your, on your belt anywhere, every state. Yep, an artifact. You can carry a 50-caliber musket ball, powder and packing material, and the musket, and it is not considered carrying a gun. You would just have to do that. Indeed.

Loading thing. What is that called? Mussel loaded. Muscle loaded. I wonder about paper cartridges from old school breach-loading muskets when they first invented them with the old Civil War slugs. Those might qualify as firearms. But the cartridges were made of paper.

So they would take a piece of paper, they'd put the slug in it, they'd pour the powder, and then they'd twist it. And then you breach, you break barrel, and slide it in and close it, and they put a percussion cap on it. The hammer hits the cap and sends a spark into the fire. So the union had that the battle Gettysburg. That's how they crushed the Confederates, but that's a whole other thing. Anyway, long story short, guys, you need to understand that the only thing that's going

to matter is your willingness to uphold your values and refuse to stand down. down. When they come to you and say, you must allow me to espouse the destruction of your nation, because that is within your principles, you simply say, no. For the principle of free speech under the First Amendment only exists so long as we defend this nation from those who would seek to destroy it. And if you would seek to use the First or Second Amendment to destroy the rights under the First or Second Amendment, it becomes oxymoronic. It becomes moot and paradoxical, in which case I no longer respect your right to retain those rights under or to be protected under those amendments. Yeah.

Indeed. Word. Now, aside from all that, let's talk about some fun stuff. We got this from the New York Post. Viral video of Rising Light after meteor streaks past erupting Philippine volcano sparks alien frenzy. But scientist has explanation. An explanation, in my opinion, that is wrong. But, you know, who am I?

I. I'm not a scientist. Here's the video. Actually, you know what, there is some audio on this one. So I don't think it's any significant audio, but watch this. Look at it. Just wait, there's more. It's not over yet. So we just saw meteor flying past the volcanic eruption, and now comes the UFO.

That thing's got a tail. It appears to be lighting up the atmosphere around it. It's a bright light. It looks like the clouds, the moisture in the air, is being illuminated by it. Now this Harvard guy says, ah, it's probably the passing satellite. my question is if you can see the satellite why can't you see the stars

it's an alien aliens that proves it the other thing too is if it's a satellite why does it appear to be illuminating moisture in the air around it so again here's this thing look at that that's amazing

big meteor could it not have anything to do with that thing I guess I don't know how it would but oh yeah yo it's what I was thinking it comes to do it come off of that thing Look,

if it did and it bounces right. Look where the meteor lands. It comes literally from just where that line is. It's the exact same spot. Yeah. Right. It's the exact same spot. Yeah. So who knows?

But I asked Grock, I said, what are the chances that a meteor strikes near a volcanic eruption followed by a satellite flying overhead? And it's like the odds of all that occurring in the same city is won in trillions. Oh, wow.

But who knows? It's unlikely. Who knows? Wait, so did the meteor hit? apparently. It didn't hit the volcano. It landed behind the volcano. Okay.

Or did it just burn up? Well, yeah. But look at that. That's crazy. You don't see like an impact. All right. Now, here's what gets crazier. May 28th.

I believe this happened on the 25th, right? Yeah, May 25th is when we saw this fireball at the meteor. Yo, in Boston on Saturday, there was another meteor. And there was a sonic boom and two earthquakes in South Carolina. all within like a couple of days of each other. They meteor in Boston, they think actually landed in the Gulf of the Cape. Or it was an alien vessel landing. Well, yeah, landed.

Here's what I'm going to say about this. Let's get conspiratorial, right? If a UFO was coming to Earth and it was traveling light years through space, would it not have a smaller personal vehicle within it? Like, when, when, when, when, when I, I, when people drive with like trailers and they got their camper, on the back of that camper, they'll have bicycles. You don't drive your class a, you know, tour bus into the city and then say, hey, let's go

to McDonald's. We'll take the tour bus. You go, nah, I'm going to take an Uber or a rental or something and leave the tour bus. It's too big. So my point is, if aliens were coming to Earth, they'd be in a larger vessel. And then when they're land, after they land, they would depart in a smaller vessel for domestic travel. So they did it in Independence Day.

Perhaps more relevantly, like, when we build rocket ships, don't they, like, fall apart into pieces, right? Like, they start- You don't smash them into the planet, though. Maybe we should. We're not that advanced. We haven't gotten to another planet yet. Maybe they took that Blue Origin explosion is some type of, like, sign of life. Now they're here because of that.

Like, oh, let's go check that. What if aliens blew up the Blue Origin rocket, they were like, only Elon. Like, we don't like you. Elon's actually an alien hybridizing himself with humans. I feel like he would look different if he was. Unless, do you know about the Edits? Enids, right? The conspiracy theory, the Nordics, some call him.

What's that? So there's this viral Reddit post where they claimed the U.S. government became apprised of the existence of Enids, what they call Nordics, but the Nordics call themselves the Enids. 65,000 years ago, aliens took, not 65,000 years ago,

hundreds of thousands of years ago or something, early humans were taken by aliens, to a different planet where they would be given access to technology and education immediately so they could compare the two civilizations, one with abundance and information, one with that to see how they develop. So the Enids are massively more advanced than humans. And now the theory is they come to Earth to research humans in the wild because they were raised in captivity with technology and they have a very specific moral worldview.

they come here and intermingle among us and look just like regular humans because they are. And this is really funny. Okay, I got to pull it up. I got to pull it up. Here we go. CIA. That's fascinating. Hold on.

We're not done yet. Check this out. From New York Post, whistleblower claims CIA use DNA data from Ancestry and 23-N-Bee customers in search for aliens. Now, how would that make sense, right? How would it make sense for the CIA to take DNA from? ancestry and 23 in me to find aliens. If these are just human customers unless people with no DNA, there are humans that are alien to this planet that come from somewhere else and have already hybridized. And there are people on this planet who do not realize they have alien DNA in them.

And so the CIA aware of this is like, we got to figure out who the sleepers are. Maybe. Right after this story came out was when Trump had the thing about aliens walking. amongst us and it was actually just SEO optimization to get this dude that was such a letdown and then it was like an illegal aliens website i'm guessing they call that um what do they call it they call it AI optimization now whatever right yeah like like stories like this the real conspiracy theory would be the CIA not using these databases to track down somebody they wanted to find oh we know they do that yeah yeah that's kind of my big conspiracy theory is that government is actually just so woefully incompetent at every that like they've actually achieved very little. I, taking very little on us. And that's why companies like Palantir are doing so well. Yeah. I don't think so because

I actually think manipulations of systems are extremely easy. I'll give you an example. There was a hacker named Weave. So he was very prominent back in the early 2010s. And apparently he had called Pakistan. He called a government Pakistani line spoofing an Indian line. so this high-level Pakistani official gets a phone call, caller ID says India,

and he goes, you son of a bitch, I'm going to nuke you. We're going to nuke Pakistan right now. And the guy was like, fuck you, don't tell me. And apparently,

like the U.S. government got really mad about it. And so this guy, he ends up going to prison. And this is maybe apocryphal. I mean, it's been 16 years. We've goes to prison

because he and this other guy discovered when iPad, when Apple released his iPad, the way it worked is you'd get you'd buy the iPad and then it would uh when you when you open the tablet it would auto load your email based on like where you bought it from like 18T or whatever and so they were like how does it how does it know and they saw in the URL that it auto loaded was in was a number so this one dude says i'm going to change you know it says like it says like 7-913261 i'm going to change the one to a two increment it up one sure enough it fed him back

a different email and then they realized they just straight have a raw, unencrypted database of everyone's email who bought an iPad. And so not we, but this other guy wrote a script that would just auto load all of the URLs, collecting a list of the emails, which they then turned over to a journalist, which is normal information security research. And they turned it over, I think to Gawker, who published it saying major security leak, Apple has released his emails. The federal government then went down to Georgia and arrested.

him under the CFAA, the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, claiming that what he did was illegal, even though he didn't actually do it. The big question was, why did he get five years in prison for loading a URL? Well, some of the people in the, you know, the hackerspace told me, it's not really about that he did this. It's just the only thing they can get him on. And they told me this story where he apparently called Pakistan, spoofing India, threatening to nuke them, potentially triggering a nuclear war in World War III. My point is this. A lot of people believe that governments are incompetent.

And it is true, massive systems at scale are extremely difficult to maintain. That being said, I actually think it's extremely easy for a single individual to nuke the world. In essence, I'll give an example. There was this point 10 years ago where the Syrian Electronic Army hacked the Associated Press on Twitter. and put up a fake tweet saying that Obama had gone off at the White House and then Obama was injured. So this was like 12 years ago or something. Actually, it might have been 13 years ago. The stock dropped by like $10 billion.

Like the stock market just collapsed. All because some like 20 year old kid in Moscow spoofed some intern. Associated Press his email, tricked them into giving him access to Twitter. And then he just tweeted a sentence and billions of dollars wiped off the stock market. and it never fully recovered. At the time, it bounced back something like 80% meaning tens of billions of dollars of wealth transferred hands in that moment, all because some college intern kid tricked some other college intern kid. So again, we talk about is the government competent capable of doing these things?

I got to be honest, man. A single individual, like the terrifying reality is, you know, I'll give you an example. what would happen if a prominent high-profile conservative personality fabricated a news story? A serious one. You take a look at the J.D. Vance couch story, which is a big, you know, it comes up in the Platner one. Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel and all these pundits run it like it's true to trick people and believe it's true to destroy J.D. Vance. That is softball. That is a pittance. what if someone fabricated a bunch of photos, a bunch of emails, came out and confirmed the biases of

tons of people pertaining to Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Qatar, or otherwise? What would happen if Stephen Crowder intentionally fabricated emails from Qatar paying Tucker Carlson, fabricated phone calls, certainly the government wouldn't go after Tucker, they might actually investigate it? what would the average person do? Most people would believe it, and it would be massively disruptive to the United States government. It would create a scandal. It would result in press conferences. A single influential person could choose, through nefarious means, to disrupt the global economy if they really wanted to.

And it's kind of scary. I think about it quite a bit how easy it would be. Well, going back to that point about the fabricated page from J.D. Vance's book, Hillbilly elegy that talks about him having sex with a couch cushion or whatever. That was kind of the brilliant aspect of this is that it didn't even need to be true. It just needed to kind of code as generally something that was in the right register and tone of the book such that you could get people to believe it.

And all of these people, when I run these focus groups out in the country now and I talk to people about where they're consuming news, hardly anybody ever names an outlet, especially the younger the people you're talking to. It's algorithmic. Let me put it like this. So last year I got invited to meet at the Blair House with Netanyahu. I could have said anything. I could have confirmed the bias. What actually happened was he blathered on about Socrates and like the judicial system or something. It was kind of

boring. And then he argued why the United States needed to go to war with Iran to which half the room was like, oh, no, we don't want to do this. And the other half was like, we must because Israel is so good. What if one person in that meeting came out and claimed that Nanya went up to him and offered him $7,000 to lie and just insert any lie you want. They would be invited on every anti-Israel podcast. They would be invited to speak in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. They'd be paid millions of dollars. It would be disruptive politically to the United States, to their military operations. It certainly would piss off Israel. And that's just one person deciding to lie. And it would work.

That's basically, I think, what Tucker, I mean, Tucker kind of does a version of that, right? Like, he's much more careful and he hedges a lot more. Yeah. But it's a lot of, like, there is smoke here. I didn't tell you there's fire. I'll give a shout out to Dave Smith, who recently criticized conservatives. He said that they will complain about George Soros all the time, but seem to ignore Miriam Adelson. To which I will stress that Dave, you supported Trump in 2024 when it was a major scandal for the anti-Trump factions that

Miriam Adelson committed $100 million towards his election, I believe through PACs and other special interest groups, in which the stories published by many progressive groups as well as like Al Jazeera was that a contingency was she wanted Israel to annex the West Bank. So for Dave Smith, who missed that story, I guess. She didn't get her money's worth, if that's the case, because that hasn't happened. Who says it has to happen now? She's talking about recommitting more to, to the Republican efforts. The point ultimately is, how are there so many people

who are shocked, like Tucker Carlson is a good example, when he's like, I didn't intentionally mean for this to happen, what's happening is so miserable. And then his brother literally says, well, Miriam Adelson gave him $100 million. And he goes, ha ha ha ha ha, like Tucker knew exactly what he was supporting. There's no way he did not.

Of course. And that's why I view them all as disingenuous. He's also been in Washington for a very long time. He knows these players. He knows the name of the game. I'm sorry, like there's also another piece of that, Dave Smith, quote, you just came up with that doesn't, that that needs to be sort of clarified, which is that George Soros spends tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars on liberal causes

and helping to elect far-left Democrats to office. And Miriam Adelson spends tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars more than literally anyone in the country to elect Republicans to office. And that is how she's been spending her fortune for years and years and years. since before when her husband was around, that was how they spent their fortune together? It's because Israel is clickworthy right now. I think I can lay out pretty simply, I suppose.

I have many times. I was recently hanging out with some friends, and one guy mentioned he used to watch the show all the time. Used to being the keyword, key phrase. He didn't dislike the show. He didn't have beef with the show. It's just people kind of just the trends changed. Politics was pop culture.

We're in the off season right now. So on YouTube, we peaked at about 17,000 concurrence. On Rumble, we have 13,600. So we're at 167 on YouTube right now in 136. So around 30K is where we've been hitting it. But come on, we're getting into the summer. We're three weeks from summer. Ain't nobody wants to be sitting around on a summer night, listen to politics talk when there's no elections going on.

It's not in the zeit, guys. It's not interesting. Well, how do you make money and maintain viewership then? Here's the thing. Here's a secret. I'll tell you a story about fusion. when I worked at Fusion, ABC News, Univision Joint Venture, it was a big scandal. It wasn't really a scandal, but what had happened was the sales team committed to

advertiser something like 500,000 views. So here's how it works. They go to insert soda company and say, we will run your ad on our website. You will get 500,000 unique views to see that ad will track that and deliver it for you. Like, we'll then show you the report if you give us a 50 grand or whatever. So the sponsor pays for it. exact rate was. After a month, they only had 300,000 views and they were freaking out. We already sold the views. We are contractually obligated to get 200,000 more.

This is also true. Not so much these days with the podcast space, because now sponsorships, the way they do it is like, it's with, I guess for Fusion, like a newer company that needed money up front. There's something called upfronts in the media business where you take the aggregate like past two quarterly averages and then sell ads based off of those. But for some of these contracts, they're like, look, in Q3 and Q4, we averaged, you know, 30 million per month. We're going to sell at that rate. What happens then if they say we want a contractual guarantee for 60 million? This means that if in the next two quarters, you don't hit 60, you've got to give them free ad space in the next two quarters to make up that lost inventory. So imagine we're entering the political

season. Christmas comes, viewership is declining. You know, last year we were averaging 50 to 60k per episode, now we're averaging 30. It's an off season. What do you expect? You know, you've got Trump on a fresh presidency with the first hundred days, then, you know, the controversies that slowly trickled down, and the viewership declines. In winter, they go up, so viewership will probably go up in winter for us, especially with the midterms. Imagine you're Tucker Carlson, fresh out of Fox News, and he starts with the bang, but his viewership starts slowly going down. If he overcommitted on ads, how is he going to make sure that he fills that inventory space? Same thing with Candace Owens.

Contractual obligations. I don't know that they have those obligations. You've got to start appealing to people either outside of the American right or outside of America. If you're a political show, if you're a political show and you're trying to attract new viewers, but Americans are outside of the political space in the off season, you need to find politics that will be attractive to foreign individuals. And the easiest thing in the world is going to be Israel. Israel is not popular with far more countries than it is popular with and even countries that that are ostensibly have good relations like the populations are split on it.

And where it is unpopular, it is like very unpopular and it is like singularly and obsessively unpopular. You got two billion people to choose from. Yeah. Let me look at Kazakhstan. So when you look at the way the social media machine is structured, the U.S. is going to homogenize with the rest of the world's views. And you've got, I think for the most part, the world itself. Globalism, not so great. Well, I think the world itself is anti-Israel.

Yeah, of course. And what I mean by that is there are certainly many countries that are pro-Israel, many governments that are pro-Israel, and Israel certainly lobbies for this. But generally speaking, you get two billion Muslims, you know, 1.6, 1.7 billion Muslims, Muslim-theocratic nations, they are going to dump massive resources. Christian nations, and I don't mean because there aren't really countries, that are overtly Christian theocracies, but they are Christian in terms of a state religion. They're not spending money to promote Israel.

They don't care. Islamic nations, they're spending money against Israel. They care. So if you're running a, if you're talking about France, I mean, they're largely Islamic. I mean, European countries are being overrun by Islam as it is. All of this is going to result in Israel getting cooked. Yeah. And some people tell me not to use Gen Z slang when referring to Israel because of the Holocaust,

but you get my point. I didn't even pick up on that. No, because people have already commented when I say Israel got cooked. Cook just means you're getting crushed. You're getting beat up. But they were like, Tim, that's a bad analogy. Shut up. No, I think it's fine.

But also it's like the thing is though is like it's a numbers game, yeah, but there's also a competence factor. And you have to look at who Israel's turning out. Look at the Nobel Peace Prizes per capita relative to the Muslim world. Look at the high-tech inventions. Look at the investments. Look at the capital coming in. in and out. Israel overperforms on all these metrics. Easy. You're getting close to IQ talk here.

That would have been the first. That may be. But holy crap, are they bad at PR? Oh. And the argument is that Israel wants people to hate Israel. Which is like, that's stupid. I think the best thing Israel could do for its own PR is probably just disband its PR department.

And operating solely motivated by, like, this is what I say to all. all these American companies, right? Drop your ESG, drop your DEI. Just focus on winning and bringing in profit. Israel, just do that, dude. You don't need to tell everybody how great the Tel Aviv Pride parade is, okay? It's not buying you any goodwill

with congressional Democrats. It's not helping. Just chill out. They ran that campaign. And it's like all it did was piss off every conservative and Democrats are like, we literally don't care. There's nothing, look, if you're,

If you're critical of Israel and you have a knee-jerk negative opinion of Israel, there's not a whole lot that you're going to be, that Israel is going to be able to do change that. I'll tell you why Israel's in trouble. Because Gen Z slang for processed garbage food is oil slop. So like, I will, I will. So what are they going to do? Start buying a bunch of kosher food from Israel? Like Israel's just going to make bank from the end of the time.

Let me stress this again. 20-year-old dude who walks into a fast food restaurant. refers to McDonald's goyslop, doesn't care about the Jews, doesn't an anti-Semite, he's just saying a phrase that many people online say in reference to processed garbage food. He's heard of Admin Gold say it. Like, Asman says that kind of stuff all the time, which, I mean, and he's not particularly critical.

And so the issue becomes, these individuals who are saying it are saying it as a meme. They're not saying it literally to claim that Jews are feeding them garbage food. Yeah, but do you know what the biggest goyslop is in the world? McDonald's. Being someone who goes out in the real world and uses it, the term goyslop among normal people. But goyslop is food.

It's food, no, no, goyslop is, is, but is it just food? Yes. Or is it like, is it, okay, but specifically though, it is an indication, like why does that term get used? Because it's an indication that, it's, but isn't it supposed to also be something that theoretically distracts you?

Like it's the catnip they give the goyam so they're not focused on like the Jews who are controlling the world or Israel's controlling the world. I don't think. I've heard it used in wider context, than just like food. Indeed, maybe like Nick Fuentes

literally is talking about Jews creating poisoned food to kill him. Like he'll talk about people spending all their money on Marvel action figures. Indeed, my point is, there are 20 year olds who are apolitical, who have heard the phrase goyslop think it's funny and just say it as a meme. I don't think that hurts Israel, do you?

My point is that it is the normalization of these phrases and ideologies that ultimately puts Israel in a negative light. Dude, if you Google. Whether it's true or not, it's negative. If you Google the term goyslop, there's a song on Spotify. What is the Webster's definition of goyslop? It's real.

Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know. I googled it just to see what it, what, uh... It's an offensive internet slang term to describe, uh, ultra processed fast food. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I love about the goy thing? There was someone on X that was like, uh, they said something really dumb. They said, Jews are the only people who have created a war that means us versus

them. Goy literally means them. They treat us like animals and I was like that literally Geishin is the same thing in Japanese. Like it's just a word meaning not us that are held that's held by many cultures. And so they say Geishin means foreigner and I'm like yeah, it means not Japanese. Yeah. So like there are many cultures that have a word. It's funny. The reason I bring up Japan is because Geishin and Goyin literally just means very similar in Hebrew like like like nation. That's the original, the original, uh, original translation was nations. in which you could refer to Jews as Goyim, but it became to specifically mean others,

probably because they didn't have a nation. So at a time when Jews were a nationless people, they referred to the nations, it was everybody else. Yeah, it's funny. I feel like Israel, their best bet is probably just to keep operating at a high level. And that's a little bit why I feel like the meamery maybe doesn't kill them. Like when I see the guys on social media,

go in like Benjamin Nittanyahu if you can hear me like please move this woman's car in front of me who is not moving in traffic or whatever like you know it's bad for them probably that they have become like a perpetual meme but on the other hand it sort of reminds me of like what is Marco Rubio's meme is him sitting in the chair in the office being like hypercompetent and capable of completing.

Yeah but that's a good that's not the first thing. What is Israel's meme is that they are like all powerful and like kill all their enemies? Like Nick Fuentes, how many times is Nick, oh, they're not going to kill you. Come on, you're an American. That's the meme. But if they own America,

why would they be killing Americans? The explanation from these people is that they want to replace strong white Americans and, you know, the heritage Americans with third worlders who are too stupid to fight back. What? But if they replaced all the strong white Americans, who would they have to fight their wars for them?

They don't want them to fight their wars. Israel doesn't want America to fight their wars. Isn't that part of the whole like Groyper ideology? No. All right. You got to walk me through it, Tim. Basically, if you ever have an issue, your logical conclusion must be it benefits Israel and Israel is evil, even if it's illogical. So like we had this woman on the show and she said that Zelensky was a Jew and Netanyahu put him in power.

And I said, for what purpose? And she goes, because Netanyahu wants a corridor stretching from Israel to Ukraine. Now the thing is, she made that up on the spot. Yeah. There's nowhere, anywhere where that makes sense. There's no history, no politics, no military action. That makes sense. It's literally just nonsense.

He's not going to conquer Turkey, although he has been ragging on Turkey. He hasn't even conquered Gaza, and he's had like three years to do it. But they just make things up. And they have nuclear weapons. The reason why it's bad for Israel, I think Israel's, they're in serious trouble. They're surrounded on basically every side by enemies, and they're losing the support of the American people. That's it. Yeah.

Give it 20 years. I don't think the US funds, I don't think Israel funds, gets funding from the United States in 10 years. I don't even want it anymore, right? Nittanyahu's coming over here and being like, we don't want the money anymore. I think the, I think the money probably makes them both worth it off. America probably gets something out of it, right? Because it's back in our own economy and it's all, we're basically just making weapons and giving them Israel. Yeah. And then that creates jobs in the United States. Now we're giving it. It's a grant. It's a government subsidy for weapons manufacturers. Right. So the idea is we're taking U.S. taxpayer dollars, build building weapons and then giving those weapons to Israel. Yeah, but all the Congress members still want it because then it's jobs in their district. Yeah, that's the thing. It's all because everything's... It's not different than any other subsidy.

I would kind of rather have all those missiles and tanks lining our border. And they were doing that during... We should do that too. They were doing that during Ukraine as well. And people had a problem with it then. If you had a problem with it then, you should have a problem with it now. Yeah. It's very boomer of me.

I'm kind of for like America's allies buying lots of weapons from us and, you know, being ready to turn them on... our enemies to degrade and destroy them. Yeah, I mean, look, I like Palmer Lucky's thought process, the guy from Andrel. Yeah, yeah, he thinks the United States should be the world's gun store, right? Just make a bunch of weapons and sell them to people. And obviously, there will be limitations.

We're not going to sell, you know, we're not going to have U.S. companies that are making cutting-edge weapons selling them to Russia or to China. But, you know, if the U.K., for now, wants to buy weapons, it's okay. If Japan wants to buy weapons, that's okay. This is one thing, Tim, maybe you can explain this to me, is like, I have been curious, when I read about all of our encouraging of Europe to stand on its own two feet and, you know, spend more on their own or build, build more of their own weapons, that means they're going to be buying less from us, right? Why do we want that necessarily? Why do we?

I think when you, when you look at debit spending, taxpayer dollars, we're not, we don't, we, this, the way the country, works, we don't take tax dollars from people to buy things or build things. We do them anyway and then tax people after the fact to pull money out of the economy for inflation. So, um, that's something I wish more people. What this, what this money represents when the government prints dollars, it represents the labor of an individual in exchange for food and shelter for the most part. Leisure comes after the fact. Right now, we're manufacturing weapons that we give away. I don't know. What if we fixed bridges and roads? What if we built community centers and did public works projects for housing and things like this? Or even just charged people for the weapons, right? That too. Yeah. But I just say,

this country would be better off if our resources were spent on building new roads, repairing old, decaying infrastructure, as opposed to making weapons and shipping them off to Israel or any other country. So, you know, Israel gets the free weapons. Members of Congress, get factories in their district. And I'm just sitting here being like, why not make not weapons then and like, I don't know, do helicopters. Why not just make a ridiculous amount of airplanes or something? And Americans, now your gas is watered down and you have to deal with like crappy gas mileage. Yeah, why not just subsidize gas? Yeah. If we're going to allocate money towards weapons. You don't even subsidize. You can just unleash all of the regulatory. No, my point is if you're going to

instruct Americans to produce weapons, tanks, guns, or otherwise, with zero economic benefit to the American people, take that same money to allocate energy towards the production of energy. Yeah. Well, I think there's a very intellectually strong argument for zeroing out foreign aid. It's a small portion of the federal budget entirely. The only, I'm, I'm, overall, I'm for getting rid of foreign aid. The only thing that kind of makes me a little hesitant is the idea that when you are giving money away, like the way that the U.S. does, it makes people, it gives more value to the money. So if people have dollars, they want to, they want those dollars to be worth something,

so they'll spend them and other people take them because of it. It's a South Park to the episode about this where the alien bank robber comes with alien money. Oh, yeah. And then they steal it. The alien cops come and they're like, no money here. And then all of a sudden, they're all wealthy. and then the aliens try to explain to them

that money has no inherent value. It's just the value that you assigned the labor. Mexico made like 12 water parks. Yeah, and it was like, why is one of your poorer countries Mexico building so many water parks? Like, no reason. But then at the end, they're like, you realize you could just do these things

without the alien money. It's just how you assign resources to labor. So that's the reality. Right now, we have a government that is paralyzed and basically saying, let's get Americans to do work to do work to make weapons to give away. And it's like, bro, I'd rather you have that American literally just, you know, play video games. I would rather that money go to some guy in a warehouse live streaming himself playing video games in the most boring way imaginable.

At least it's producing something for America, even if it's the bare rock bottom of something to be produced. And I'm not trying to rag on video game streamers. I'm saying someone who's bad at it. I would rather them take that money and literally give to a bunch of communists to just have a hippie drum circle and sing songs. Because at least it's going to Americans, instead of being like, we're going to produce something of value and give it away. I did. Yeah. I'm like partially with you.

But at the same time, like, I do think there's upside to, if you're going to have like more populist economic policies on any front, you should probably incentivize building a robust defense industrial base. You don't have to keep the weapons. Exactly. Exactly. Keep them. Well, you sell to your allies, but you don't give them the money to buy. it from you. Pitch. And you also keep a lot of the weapons. Members of Congress. You buy weapons. I propose we increase spending on weapons. Increase. I like it. For the purpose of establishing the

Department of Gun Services in every major metro, every single one. And the way the DGS works is when you turn 16, you can go in and I'm sorry, but you do have to take a test and go to the shooting range. and if you pass, you'll be given an AR-15, a Glock 17, each with one box of ammunition, as your right as an American under the Second Amendment. Box or case? Well, for the AR, a case. Okay. You know, a nice case of, what is that going to be, like, 500?

Usually a case is 1,000, but yeah. A thousand. Really? Like, that one over there is 1,000? Civil War. And a thousand it is. I think for the Glock 17, just a box. I mean, what are you going to get from there, 100 or something? Usually boxes are 50 rounds.

Oh, that's it. Then two boxes. You got a little more net. And at 16. At 16. Second Amendment rights. If we have a right to keep in bare arms, then according to the left, health care being human right, we'll split the baby. Health care is a human right.

We do universal health care. Agreed. The government's got to provide guns to everybody at the same. All cars shall have gun racks in the back window again. And you know what? And it's like you're 16, you go to the range. Now listen, listen. Some people have pushed back on this idea.

and said, Tim, the idea that you'd take a test to get a form from the government, it's a right to bear arms. No, no, no, no. You're getting a free gun at taxpayer expense. You're allowed to have the gun at 16 if you buy it yourself. But if you want your free government issue,

you do have to take the test. It's like the booket program with the pizza you get from Pizza Hut after you get the book. Except for it's a gun, get a Glock. Got a driver's license and they gave you a car. Yeah. How do you feel?

about some of the stuff people have raised about, like, you know, whether transgender people should have the same, like, full extent. They shouldn't be allowed to have those. It should not. No. So here's the important thing. Again, this always falls to, um, the left will try to exploit what they view of your principles. But I thought you said everyone should have a right to keep in arms and you're against red flag laws. Yep, except for people I don't think should have them. That's it. The left's going to make the argument that they can 5150, whoever they want, and they will. And the sooner conservatives realize that people with power will wield it against them, the sooner they will push back. What do people in this country really want?

Good, red-blooded Americans want Christmas morning, apple pie, baseball, right? They want people of sound mind to keep in bare arms. They want people who are dangerous not to have them. They don't want an overbearing government to be able to seize them. The left comes to you and says, if you agree with the idea that someone's suffering from an identity, identity disassociation can't have a gun, they will come and accuse you of having a mental disorder. And so I've argued this principally in the past. If we go for the red flag laws, I oppose them largely because what will happen is a liberal institutionalized government will just pathologize

conservatism. Congratulations. If you believe in borders, you're mentally ill. They'll make it up. That being said, we have seen a spattering of transgender mass shooters. These are people with a dissociative identity disorder where they believe they are a different kind of being from their own body. Used to be categorized as such. It is. It still is. Yeah. It's a DSM-5 mental disorder. And the transactivists actually argue that it should remain because if it's not, they can't get prescription drugs for it. So if you want to get cross-sex hormones prescribed, it must be listed as a mental disorder. Well, that being said, I think there are some mental disorders, which you should be disqualified for. Mental disorders with a high rate of suicidality,

we clearly don't want you to have guns, but I do believe it would have to be adjudicated properly. That is, a lot of these red flag laws, they say, we can come and take your guns and then you can fight later. No. A notice should be served that there's a legal challenge, and you have due process. So they have to have probable cause. They have to get a grand jury to indict, and then you can go to trial. So that is, let's say there's a guy who's standing on the edge of a sitting on top of a

bridge. The cops see that. They have probable cause to assume you're suicidal. They pull you down. They present that evidence to a grand jury. Here's photo. Here's video. Here's the body camera footage. This man was attempting to end his own life. The grand jury then returns an indictment. You then present the indictment to the gun owner. A grand jury has indicted you on suicidality. And we are now, the penalty for which is we take your guns away for a small set period of time. Then you get a chance to defend yourself. That's how due process should work when it comes to guns. Wasn't that one of Trump's bigger missteps with some people? Is he's like, take the guns first and then fight it in court?

I think that was an out of context quote. Yeah, the media lied. Shocking. It's very typical for them to adjust the quotes depending on what makes Donald Trump look bad. What was the context of the discussion they were having there? I'm trying to pull it up. It's a common sense position, though, and it's not that different from the Hassan Piker stuff. we were talking about earlier.

Like, yeah, my position is just that, like, I do think it's like, okay, if a foreign, sovereign nation decides that they don't want foreigners who are going to come into their country and, you know, proverbially piss on the rug or literally just celebrate anti-Western terrorism. And I also, and I do think Tim should be allowed to go to the UK. Like, that's just my view. Sorry, I don't have to, like, abide by a universal principle that everybody's allowed to say, whatever they want all the time. And I don't have to abide by a universal principle that every

psycho potential mass murderer is allowed to have a gun. But I think like the vast majority of Americans should be. Yeah. I mean, I don't have a, my biggest problem with Piker being, you know, prevented from going to the UK is the people that are going to say that it's because of Israel. I mean, if you look at the labor party in the UK, right, there are very few groups that are more critical of Israel than the over part. I mean, I think the UK home secretary who's in charge of these kinds of immigration-related decisions is named like Shahana Mahmood and she is a like career Palestine activist who has also banned a bunch of Israeli ministers and activists. The idea that it's actually over Israel is just ridiculous. The context explicitly was that Mike Pence was discussing

whether law enforcement should confiscate weapons when they have reason to believe an individual is going to use them to commit a crime or to harm themselves or others. And Trump's said, or Mike, take the firearms first, then go to court, because that's another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man's case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms. They saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you're saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second. So I will say it is only slightly out of context. He was literally

saying, when the police believe someone is going to do. going to commit a crime, just go and take the guns from him. I think a lot of people took it to me and that Trump was saying, take people's guns in general and then they can fight later. Oh, I just assumed it was specific to a case. Maybe that's just my own. Yeah, I think it was in the aftermath of Parkland. It was specific to a case where there was a guy that the police knew was planning something

and he was saying going to go and it goes. That's an interesting question. Let me ask you guys. If there is a guy who posts online, I have a bunch of guns, I'm going to go do bad thing. Should the police run and stop him, grab him and take his guns? Probably. Yes. Absolutely. If there is a known stated intent to commit a crime using firearms, then I believe the police are perfectly justified to go in, arrest him. Terroristic threats, take his guns away.

So by the way, Trump's position there, you know, we're gun nuts here and we're all conservatives here. But I was saying earlier, Trump is this moderating force on the GOP. Even in that line, that's how a lot of Americans feel. Even if this is generally a pro-2A country, Trump's gut sentiment on things like that is very much attuned to and in line with where most Americans are. The founding fathers believed that the federal government couldn't ban guns. This meant you were allowed to own artillery. Private individuals owned warships. And the U.S. government would retain the services of these private individuals with warships. In fact, private companies make our warships today. private companies make our nuclear weapons today.

So this weird presumption that, you know, I ask people this, I'll ask you this question. Do you think private individuals should be allowed to have nuclear weapons? I don't know. They're going to be making them on chat GPT. It has always been the case. The answer is yes. The U.S. contracts out these projects. Nuclear weapons are made by private entities. Our warships, our missiles, our bombs, they are private, they are public. publicly traded companies, privately held by the, or I should say publicly held by the American people, but not by the government. So it's funny when I can bring on a senator or a member of Congress. And I say, do you think Americans have the right to keep in bear nuclear weapons? Absolutely not. Well, that's literally how it works. It's just people don't get this stuff. There's a lot of regulations around it. Indeed. When you're, was it on the NICS form, you got nuclear weapons? Is that what it is? Or no, no, no, what is it the, what you call it, the FFL forms?

So they're produced by private American companies, but they're contract. They're public American companies. I'm sorry, public American companies, but they're contracted by the government to do so, right? There isn't a case of an actual individual with a nuclear weapon in his home. Hold on a second. As far as we know. I don't know that the U.S. government has to ask the nuclear property to be made because there are federal licenses where you can fill out and say, I'm making a nuke and submit it to the government.

So then they're like, I'll take one. The government can be like, I'll take one. Well, here's the thing. How would the government buy a prototype nuclear weapon unless the research was being done to make it? The argument would be that the government has to commission the research first. It means the same stuff that goes on with biological warfare, right? They create, man. They create strains of diseases and then study them.

Lockheed is up 517. I'm sorry, Lockheed is up 8.22% to 5.5%. 517 this year. In the last five years, they're up 34%. Man. Imagine this. You put 100% of your savings in a Lockheed Martin. You extract 3% every year and just live off the interest.

Lockheed. Yeah, so I don't know exactly. I'd imagine there's a mixed bag. But I have to imagine that research on prototype weapons, you can't wait for government approval. So we think of nuclear weapons as crazy, so the government must approve this. Well, you got Andoril, you know,

Palmer Lucky's company. I don't think he's going to the government asking permission to do research. No. I think he's making bombs. And then going to the government, be like, yo, check out this bomb I made. It's got wings.

And the government says sick, thank you. Exactly. Love that. We'll take 100. Well, that's his whole plan. And another thing that Paul Mulakie is doing is trying to make sure that the pieces, the parts that are necessary,

to make the stuff that he's building aren't so specialized where you can't find them or they have to be specifically designed for what they're doing. He's like, we need to make things. He's like, look at the way that we built tanks and weapons in World War II. We had, you know, Ford was pumping out tanks and they were building all these weapons

and all this military equipment. They were doing it from plants that before were building cars. We need to be able to run down to what equates to. I don't know if they're any more. They need to run down to like radio shack and be able to get the parts from the building. I think if I wasn't doing this job, I'd probably be making weapons. Back in, back during Occupy, there were two things that I was doing.

One was live streaming and the other was hacking drones to do things they were not intended to do. We're making weapons. But we hacked the, the first ever news broadcast via drone was done by me and my crew. We hacked a commercial toy drone, the parrot AR, and we used a software development kit to transmit the video feed from the drone to a computer and then retransmit it through the internet to live stream. So you could live stream as we like we live. I had a backpack with a laptop in it that was set to run with the monitor closed. And I had the drone strapped to my bag so I could grab it off my back, put it on the ground, launch it with my phone. And the stream was live the whole time. So we actually flew it during Occupy Wall Street. And we did a bunch of great stuff.

one little drone, it was a ball with wheels, and you could throw it like a ball, and it would bounce and always land upright because it had two big wheels, and we rigged it to do the same thing. So I could- Yeah, you'd definitely be good at making weapons. Surveillance tech, and we did a bunch of crazy stuff. One of the things like my buddy did, we were hacking stuff. I made a, I made a levitating can of green tea. Did you make this? Speaking of levitate? No, that's just something I got off Instagram. Okay. So there's a video of me when I was 23. You can watch it. It's on my main channel. I took a can of green tea and I put motors on it

so that it would be weighted in the front and vibrate so it reduces the viscosity, the surface tension so that the can can literally be remote controlled and glide across flat surfaces. Wow. So imagine if, I don't know what the function would be. Can't you just apply that to a car? You got a floating car, falling car?

It would destroy the ground. Yeah. So a can of green tea floating across a wood table is not going to cause enough damage, but if you got like a one-ton car and it's just flat, a flat bottom with no wheels and it wouldn't go very fast either.

But I don't know what the practical applications of that green tea can would have been like a grenade that just vibrates across the ground very slowly. That's why we got to put you in a room with all the sharp guys at Anderil figure it out, you know? But I, we would do some crazy stuff.

We were trying to build taser gloves. And my buddy reached out to, I don't know, It was like Von Zipper or something. And he was like, I know a guy at this company, and he hit him up. And he was like, hey, we want to make taser gloves. And they were like, that's cool. We'll sponsor it.

And then he emails back being like, my boss asked me if I was insane. So the idea was, I said, so you guys ever see those ab workout things they have? You strap a belt on. Like it does it automatically. It electrocutes your abs to contract them. And it's like, work out while you're sitting there.

It's a stupidest thing ever. Yeah. But I saw that and I said, it paralyzes your muscles. It forces them to contract, right? Can we take the same effect without causing pain and put it in a glove so that I can grab Phil's arm and his arm immediately just locks and becomes paralyzed? And they said, yes. And I can't remember it's just been 16 years.

But it was like, someone in the chat will know electricity better than me. It's like low amps, high volts or something like that where it won't electrocute you in the sense where you're like being burned and screaming. But it will trigger a muscle contraction and you won't be able to move your arm. So the idea was imagine you're a cop or in the military and you have in your hand an electrode that's in the finger and the thumb that you can flick a switch and turn on and grab your culprit or otherwise. It doesn't hurt them, but it disables them. And so we were working on making this and then the sponsors didn't want to do it. And then I was like, can we then for seemingly no reason make it so that when you grab a katana, the electrodes connect. to a circuit that wraps around the blade, electrify. Lightaber season? Not a lightsaber, but it would effectively turn the katana into a taser at the same time. Dude, that's...

So you connect the circuit and it would... And then you can touch somebody with it, and so we'd have to have two points on the end to complete the circuit, which would be your body. So when you got stabbed by the katana with the glove on, your body would connect the circuit and you'd get fried from the inside. Yeah, I'd probably be making weapons. The closest I ever got to technology like that is the... hand shake prank buzzer thing.

You're a little kid and you put it out and you shake your dad's and it's zap some. Classic. We built a cooling system for mobile hotspots. This is one of the most fun things that we did at the space. There was a protest in Anaheim and it was super hot. And so all of these people would start live streaming, they walk around holding their phones up. But I would always tell people, do not buy a black case for your phone,

by a white case because the black cases absorb the heat from the sun and they're going to overheat really fast. But, you know, nobody understands physics. So there I am if you watch all the old videos for me live sharing back during Occupy. I always have a white case. If you watch the Occupy streams, you can see me holding an iPhone with a white case because it's going to keep it cool. It's internally going to get hot, but it at least keep the sun off. So in Anaheim, it was so hot.

We 3D printed a case for the mobile hotspot that was black and didn't have a case. And we snapped it in. And then we took an energizer, big energizer battery, and we soldered. cables to a 40 millimeter computer fan that screwed onto the base. So you have a 3D printed case, 40 millimeter fan hotspot. And then we took the wires and soldered connections so that we could plug it into an energizer battery that powered the fan and kept cold, kept air flowing over the hotspot to stop it from overheating. So during this protest, tons of streamers cameras, phones went down from overheating and we were good. So we were doing tons of crazy stuff like that back in

the day. Those were fun. Those are fun times. I'd be making bombs. They'd be like, that's a great drone, Tim. It's highly maneuverable. And we get a bomb on it. And I'd be like, oh, I can do that. I actually consulted the U.S. government specifically warning them about this. When I got asked to consult on drones because of the work we were doing, they were like, what's something, it was this government coalition working with the university in, I think, North Carolina. And they said, what's one thing that we should be aware of with drone technology that we're not thinking of. And I was like that anybody can strap a C4 payload to one of these bad boys fly it into a city

at 30 miles an hour and blow up any target before you can do anything about it. And they were like, what? And I'm like, honest question, if somebody strapped the bomb to one of these things, launched it from across Jersey and flew at full speed into Manhattan, how do you stop it? It's 200 feet up. It's going 35 miles an hour and you don't even know it's coming until it's too late. And even if you blast it out of the sky with say you, say you, say you, had like a confetti gun. One of the things we contemplated was having a drone that could fire

a string, literally just thin sewing string, and that would take out a drone and knock it out of the sky. And I said, even if you were able to do that, this thing's still carrying a bomb and it's blowing up where it is. One of the things we had talked about, which is fascinating because they actually did it, was microwaves. So you blast directed energy weapons, a microwave at a drone disrupting its communications and it will fall out of the sky, or just frying its motors, overheating and causing it to crash. And then I think it was actually,

didn't Anderil create the pulse? Yeah. Where they got a storm of drones and they click a button and it pulses and all the drones fall out of the sky. I mean, device is pretty close to the kinds of weapons you're describing. Like, I feel like I've seen videos of them on my feed,

like out of Ukraine and even... Yeah, they've got these... They have these big rifles when they click a button, it just blasts microwave frequencies and the drones just fritzes. just frits out and... That's why a lot of the drones in Ukraine,

they started using fiber optic cables. One thing I did that was really funny that... I don't know if I'm supposed to say, but, you know, I'll say it anyway. I was in Turkey at the time, and somebody was flying a drone, and let's just... I'll keep it very light. Hypothetically speaking,

it would have been very easy to have commandeered that drone. You know? I'll just say it like that. Not your drone anymore. Yes, hypothetically. And I had to explain to a guy how when they're flying these drones, they're insecure systems. They're easily, you know, taken over.

Let's read some of your Rumble Rants and Super Chat, so smash the like button. Share the show, the uncensored portion is coming up in just a few minutes. But right now, we'll see what y'all have to say about the goings-on of the world and Graham Platner, calling his weiner Mindfure. Right. Same old man says there needs to be more news about Macron,

letting Paris being set on fire for bringing in third worlders. You know what the issue is? Seriously, this is a big challenge. Like, why do people not really care about politics right now? Last week, we were like, what's the big news? Which we cover. And then I can't remember who might have been Tate being like, well, the Iran ceasefire, you know, Trump's stuck in a deal.

And I was like, bro, we're on like 15. Dude. How many times has there been close to a deal in a yo-yo? No. Even if Trump came out and said, we have a deal, I'd be like, nah. Well, that was what happened to me. Last week, I did CNN, that Abby Phillips show. And they were like, we're leading with Iran.

And we're doing the latest ceasefire. negotiation. I think we've got like a new ceasefire negotiation that's been negotiated since that one. And I'm like, okay, so you guys are all going to yell at me and I'm going to say we're not going to know what's going to happen until the president comments on this because he's got a wrangle like nine different countries and his own negotiators, half of whom don't even agree with him about the war to begin with. And it's like, come on. We've seen this movie a million times. People don't want to talk about it endlessly. It's a yo-yo. I'm just like, dude, I know that if Trump has a ceasefire, it's going to get canceled a day later.

Iran, I mean, Iran's not, I don't know what's going on in Iran, obviously, but it doesn't seem like there are people in positions of ultimate authority that are interested in a ceasefire. I think this stuff probably calms down ahead of the midterms. And then the next two years, I just don't, I just don't think Trump's going to leave the job unfinished. Like, I think he's going to, you know, go there and do everything he wanted to do at the outset of this conflict. I don't know. All right. We got Evan Frears and says, hey, Tim, I recently started playing MTG and got me a Final Fantasy limit break pre-con deck, really liking it and the game. So far, I would love to play with you guys one day.

Any recommendations for add-ons? Go to MTV Top 8, and you can see all of the best decks in existence right now. and you can go to EDH rec, I think. EdHREC, just Google search it. And it's great for helping you construct and improve your commander decks. And then go to Mamba Collectibles

in Martinsburg, West Virginia, which is our local shop. And when we do play, although we don't play all that often, we play there. But I was talking with some of our local boys about hosting a Saturday game and having like just, we're like, we'll put on UFC,

we'll do like, you know, five player or something. Commanders usually like two, it's like four players, you know, one v3. And, well, not one v3, it's four, just four, one v, one v, one v one. But certainly we're not going to invite just anybody here, but if you're a regular at Mamba

and you see us there, which is above Caspera Coffee, which is about to open soon, then maybe you can come to our games. We're also trying to set up a show where we do D&D and Magic and we play these games and we hang out, and it's supposed to be for the boys having a beer, watching a fight, and goofing off and playing magic and all that stuff.

But it's a great game, although it's gotten really goofy lately because now you can have like Spider-Man fight the Ninja Turtles, I guess, and everyone's kind of rolling their eyes over it. Final Fantasy is cool. We like Final Fantasy and Magic. I do because Magic is supposed to be fantasy. And I got no problem with them making different games,

but trying to cram it all in the same story is just kind of weird, you know? They try to cram, like, didn't they do like, not Pokemon, but they have like Marvel. They got SpongeBob. Yeah, SpongeBob. in magic, like the... It makes no sense to me.

Yeah, they... SpongeBob is in Magic the Gathering. Indeed, it is. It's a secret layer. It's a secret layer. There's SpongeBob cards. And there's also... I got Sonic the Headhawg right there.

Look at that. All Sonic Hed Shark, The Gathering cast. I just know game... I just know Settlers of Catan. That's probably way too elementary for you guys. We've got settlers out there somewhere. That's my... We got all the games.

We got Carcazon, too. ...line all the time. We got all the good stuff. But yeah, go to Mamba. Carcazan is fun. Hang out and play commander. Evan says, hey, Phil, welcome back. How divine.

Lots of welcome back, Phil's. Welcome back, Phil. Welcome back, Phil. Phil, when are you coming to Omaha? We don't have anything booked right now. I heard they got good stakes. Omaha does have good stakes. Yeah, good stuff.

I like Nebraska. You guys can do a pie with Warren Buffett. Yeah, there you go. Brett Zeppelin says, I heard a theory today that the Dems are deliberately tanking Platner. Then they have till July 13th to a point, aka Kamala, a different candidate. It was his own side that released his sexting info.

Indeed it was. Indeed it was. And Mills maybe comes back or something. It's weird what they're doing. It's just weird stuff. He can write a book after he fails called Mine Kampf. Keep an eye out. Jared Golden, Congressman from Maine, would have been a better pick to begin with.

Maybe that'll be someone they try to sneak in there. This is weird. Desert Army Man says, a Democrat named Dan Sullivan filed to run for Senate. incumbent Senator Dan Sullivan in Alaska, coincidentally after Mary Peltola had a campaign stop where he lives. These people will do anything rather than moderate on policy.

They will just nominate a dude with the same exact name as the Republican candidate for Senate. That's insane, man. Sam one says, Tim, I don't care if a son was born to the U.S. He's a commie and has betrayed the USA. He should be thrown into prison

for life or exiled from the nation. Well, you know, that's what war sounds like. just deport him. Deport him. But where? He was born here. Turkey. He's got Turkish citizenship Flanders, ain't correctly. He grew up. You know what? Omega

Reset says Tim Poole. Glock, you may as well give them bud light. Because as a CPL instructor, I will tell you that Glock is the bud light of guns. Glocks are gay. Chad Springfield. Phil is not going to be happy with this. The government is not going to give you a Springfield, 1911. You're getting bottom of the barrel. That's the point. you're going to get a generic millspec

AR and a Glock. We're not breaking the bank free, you're getting a free government gun. And the test is they give you a SIG-320 and make you drop it over and over. You can hate on Glock's all you want, but Glock's work. So does Bud Light, for the record. I mean, yes, if you want to get drunk.

Yep. But that was kind of my point. The government is not going to break the bank free. We're not asking the government to just dish out on the high-end stuff. It is generic. You are getting the bottom of the but it's free. Someone wrote an essay in the Atlantic the other day about how good Coors Light is.

It was kind of a beautifully written essay, an ode to Coors Light. Just in time for Pride Month. My tastes are honestly even lower. I like like hams or Natty Light or stuff like that. It's really fun going to Chicago with people who've never been there.

Because we always have to go to Portillo's. Oh, so good. But then we went to a Whole Foods and I can't remember I think it might have been Kellan was just like, What's a good beer to get? And then, like, I think Brandon is going like, oh, you got to get like this, this microbrewer. I'm like, no, no, no, stop, stop. Old style.

Yeah. You get a case of old style. Every bar in Chicago's got the old style sign above it. That's what people drink. You know, it's the, it's the, you're chilling and you're cracking a beer from the case. You get old style. That's what people drink. A lot of Belzoobron fans in Chicago, too.

A lot of Michigan. Oh, I'm not familiar that one. That's good. It's Michigan beer. But then they got their Chicago stuff. They got 312, and you get the Goose Island stuff. I thought everyone else was Goose Island. Yeah.

It's like, if you want to just have the, like, I don't want to rag on old style because it's old style. But it's not like, you know, your prestigious microbe or anything like that. You guys get deep dish pizza when you're in Chicago? No, that's for tourists. When we bring people to Chicago, we give them square cut tavern. Oh, yeah, tavern style, yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny as like, I live in Chicago and I probably had deep dish like 15 times in 20 years.

Tavern is the superior pizza. We'd have pizza once a week, but it would always be taverns. Square cut. Tavern is the street. Jardinera. You guys go to Chicago. You find a place that's got tavern style extra large

Jardinera pizza. Right now there are people saying, I don't know what Jardinara is. It's good. There's a spot in D.C. actually, that puts Jardinera on not Chicago-style deep dish, but Detroit-style square pizza.

Detroit! Good combo. I think, I'd never heard of that until I met my wife that there was actually Detroit-style pizza. You know what's funny? It's pretty good.

I never even really heard. I grew up in Detroit, And I didn't really, like, know a lot about, like, Detroit-style pizza. Like, we had square pizza, whatever. But then I moved to New York City, and all of a sudden, Detroit-style pizza got hot, like, eight years ago. And it was, like, the new trendy thing popping up all over the place. It's like a thicker, fluffy crust, right? Yeah, like a thicker crust with, like, a caramel, like a buttered outside.

Yeah, it's good. It's pan pizza. It's good. It's like a Sicilian, right? Very similar. Like fluffy. I went to Grand Rapids. I got pizza once. I don't recommend it.

I would equit. Wait it to white bread with ketchup and American cheese. Probably a lot of that in Grand Rap. I mean, I got to be honest, I love a grilled cheese, just two pieces of white bread, American cheese dipped in ketchup. It's just not pizza. For the most part, people are like even bad pizzas, good pizza. We just did four shows.

We just did four shows in Michigan. And pizza in Michigan, like, we had pizza a couple times for after show. You know, they just bring pizzas in or whatever. And it's not so hot. Well, that's because you didn't douse it in ranch dressing. That's the proper way to consume pizza. I got to tell you guys, Jardinera, okay? They call it hot peppers at pot bellies.

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