Timcast IRL - Democrats Accused Of CHEATING AGAIN, NBC Guru LOSES IT ON LIVE TV w/ Chris Barnard

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Chris Barnard to discuss NBC's data guru losing it on air after accidentally exposing Democrat cheating Kathy Griffin roasted for saying she's scared of cops The DOJ charging a SPLC woman accused of funneling millions to hate groups US sailors fighting and jumping overboard the USS Abraham Lincoln Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Chris Barnard @ChrisBarnardDL (X)

So the other nights, the progressive in Wisconsin, who was pulling double digits ahead of the establishment counterpart, lost by about 0.5%. And immediately, everybody's reaction is what is up with these polls? El-Sayed in Michigan was up in some polls 20 points and then barely won. Now, here's where it gets funny. Now, initially, if you guys watched my earlier segment, my, my, the time this whole thing was, yeah, the polls have always been wrong. They skew heavily towards activists because activists are trying to influence these things. So it makes sense. Except when you look at the 3 a.m. footage that started going viral of Kornacki on NBC,

when he's trying to wrap his head around a 3 a.m. ballot dump, which flipped the election, giving it to the establishment. And he has no words. And he's standing there confused. And he's like, how do I, uh, how do I say this? And immediately everyone, The populist left, who wanted the progressive to win, and every Trump supporter, they were laughing because they were like, dude can't say on NBC news, they stole it. Now, we don't know they actually stole it, but the story is. Apparently there were like nine USB drives containing the election data. Five of them were incorrect and had to be sent back and checked again. And when they were, the data was apparently different.

I guess this is a story. It's kind of hard to sift through, but it is absolutely fascinating to watch. currently the official discussion, which again may still be the case, is that guys, the polls were just wrong. And of course, people don't like socialists. We've gone over all the polling data over and over again on this show. People prefer Republicans over DSA. DSA has their strong base in certain elections and they have done well, but they've also done poorly in some areas. In Illinois, they lost. This is Wisconsin. It's not surprising that she actually didn't do that well because a lot of people were wondering how she was doing well to begin with when she's

She said she wanted to ban Thanksgiving. And she said a bunch of other weird things like that. Like she posted something about being balls deep in bourbon, I guess. I don't know, whatever. So people are like, how is she polling so well? We're going to go, we're going to break this one down. We'll rip through this one. We'll talk about that.

And the other big news is that one of the heads of the Southern Poverty Law Center has been arrested, criminally charged for fraud. So this is massive. And then, of course, Carolyn Levitt stepping down as press secretary. That's a bit of a blur. but we'll get into that stuff, talk about everything. Before we get said to, my friends, I've got a great sponsor. It is PDS debt.

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Joining us tonight to talk about this, and everything else is Christopher Barnard. Thanks for having me. Good to be here. Who are you? What do you do? I run an organization called the American Conservation Coalition, where the largest conservative conservation organization in the U.S. taking these issues back from the left. Also, once upon a time, served on the RNC Youth Advisory Council, which was an interesting experience, and yeah, here I am.

Right on. Should be good. Thanks for hanging out. We got the boys hanging out. Hello. What up, Ian? How are you doing? Man, good to be back. How about you, Philly? Doing well, Carter. Doing good as well. Glad to have you both here. So let's get into it.

Right on. Here's the story from Mediaites. Are you serious? NBC Data Guru, Steve Kornacki, visibly shaken by election night madness in Francesca Hong Race. I absolutely love this story. So we've got a couple things to break down. And we'll jump to this one second. But this is from media ad as well.

It's blowing up. Look at all these comments. WTF is up. with these polls. Experts flummoxed by stunning 20-point misfire in the Wisconsin primary. Now, how is it? David Marcus says, can we stop obeying the polls? This is grotesque. I have to wonder. You can see this in the polls. Hong was up 18, 22, 20, 13, 11, 3, 1, 8, 13, 2. She was up in every single poll going back to last year. She's been the favorite. it. Then when it finally came down to it, she loses. We've got the, we got the results right here.

David Crowley wins by 0.5 of a percent, beating her out by just around 3,000, it was like 3,900 or so. He's visibly shaken. Okay. Let's play this clip after all this goes down. Watch this. There he is. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, here's the, here's the thing. Um, yeah, he's literally, I didn't pause it. That's crazy.

He's literally just standing there. But I don't have the thing. Here's, let's, let's, let's look at it. This way. We're kind of indefinitely waiting for them to get their act together here

and get the sticks and bring them back. I love the Cornack. And we've got folks here who are working. Yeah. That's great. And. I don't think we want to, you know, keep him here to, this could go 90 minutes. And it's 90 minutes of me saying, have you heard of any other athletes running for Congress?

It's such a, it's like we've, I know we've come so far here. Look at the lines crossed out. He doesn't know what Milwaukee is doing. It's been an unbelievably interesting and an intense night here. And it really is coming down to this one giant update in Milwaukee. But man, we waited 90 minutes for them. They did this whole procession. And then they find out there's nothing on the sticks.

And, and yeah, so. So this is, this is Milwaukee voting data, right? Nine USB drives containing the ballots. And I think people are saying it's something like 20,000 missing ballots. I don't know the exact number. Five of them were blank. And so this dude at NBC is literally like, uh, Hong was winning. And then all of a sudden she was not winning.

It's just my way of saying, I'm just trying to say the audience here, so I'm not abruptly ending on them. why we're doing this because the audience has been with us for four, six hours in some cases for this moment that didn't

happen. And so folks, we're going to, I think we are going to wrap it here for the reasons we're saying here just Okay, you guys get it, right? So here's the story. Socialists are furious, says Eric Dardy,

human error in Milwaukee after midnight causes five USB sticks to not have election results on them. So officials went back and fixed the data, uploaded it, and the socialist then narrowly lost by a few thousand votes. Dude,

she was narrowly ahead, right? I think we actually have this in the video here. Did she right behind him? 814,000. There was a point in the night where she was ahead a little bit. And then something happens on the Kwanaki feed.

And he's like, wait, what happened? Yeah, okay, wait, hold on. If we go back a few minutes. Eighty-one precincts reporting on their website. 270. Say again? So if you jump back only a couple of minutes before he went nuts, Hong was up, or I was tied, too close to call.

She was slightly ahead for a while. And then you get this, yeah, there's that. Okay, that point. and then you jump ahead and I don't know. Let's, it's pretty wild, but I want to play more from, from, about the USB sticks. Listen to this from Milwaukee. What we uncovered was that five of the sticks had the audit log downloaded and not the results. It's a human error.

These things can happen. So basically what we need to do is go back to the Operation Center. and we're going to download out of those five machines, the results, and make sure that's not the audit. So we have the reports printed from the first download. We're going to reprint and start the process so that we can compare those results. We invite you to come join us. Milwaukee Police Farm, it will come with us too.

And so we'll redownload those results and then send them back here to be uploaded. Okay. Now, it's entirely possible. This is, look, it's a primary for the Democrat. So people on the right who are traumatized and angry over elections when Trump loses and things like this are going to be like, yeah, they cheated. Socialists who wanted to win are going to be like, yeah, they cheated. But it's entirely possible they didn't cheat. And it literally is just a single error in Milwaukee.

But I do want to point out one thing. I have a question for you guys. So this was a Milwaukee error. The guy who won, his name is David Crowley. He's a county executive. Anyone want to take a staff? at which county he's an executive of. I wonder if it's Milwaukee County.

It would be, in fact, Milwaukee County. So the Milwaukee County executive, who is running against the Democratic Socialists, who is behind in the polls double digits, had a what some people describe as a fortuitous error in Milwaukee, which, you know, we just don't know what happened to those ballots and I guess Crowley wins.

It's pretty clear that Republicans need. to run Democrat elections because Democrats have no idea how to run elections at all. I want to tell by it. Not that not that Republicans are perfect, but the Republicans seem less likely to cheat. Because I just real quick, I assure you the narrative is going to come out. The story is going to be they never actually lost the voting data. It was a single blip that they went, checked it, it was correct, and you're all conspiracy theorists.

And trust us. Yeah, they're going to come back and be like, look, there was an air on the sticks. We fixed it. What's the significance of Milwaukee County? I think this guy being a Milwaukee County guy. That's where it happened. That's where the ballots were missing from. I mean, look, like, I'm sorry, dude.

That's, if there was like, okay, if a guy lived in a, like, on a certain street and then, like, he was trying to buy a plot of land from another guy. And then that guy, and, like, they were pretty contentious. And then that guy turned up dead. You got a principal suspect here. You know what I mean? And like your mail gets stolen, it doesn't implicate the mailman, but a mailman would have a real easy time stealing mail, I think. I mean, I'm supposed to scan it and stuff.

What's that? Just not delivering it. You'd assume because he's a public servant that he wouldn't do that. I mean, how could you ever do evil if you're serving the public? Very easily, apparently. That's why we trust it. I mean, oh, wait, there's more videos. Be like, let me close one up.

Are you serious? They have to... What are we... Okay. This is great. Listen. So here's what I think. Milwaukee is going to be

densely progressive. It's an urban center. There's another video. There's so many videos of this guy. We don't have all of them pull up. One of them is where the dude's stuttering and stammering, trying to figure out how it is that Hong lost considering, he's like, is there some kind of urban center somewhere?

Like, he can't wrap his head around all the county. that should not have given Crowley the win, and it did. Milwaukee is likely heavy progressive, and those five sticks had nothing on them. I mean, look, it's hilarious. It's just, in my opinion, it's just a hilarious clown show, you know, whether the Democrats are not having primaries or installing their preferred candidate through,

I guess fortuitous circumstances for the candidate in question this isn't something that's surprising to anybody anymore and this goes to the fact that or plays into the whole we don't trust people in the system anymore

the disillusion with government is not just a right wing thing the left has plenty of people that don't trust the government and these kind of things break down the trust in our institutions. It only gets worse and worse and worse. What's even crazier about this situation is,

as you might remember, this is not the first time this has happened in Milwaukee County. It's not the second time it's happened in Milwaukee County. It's a third time in a row, 2020, 2024, and now again, where there's been a human error. And each time it was not a machine error.

It was a human error. And so in the very best case scenario, it's just sheer, like, human incompetence in these Democratic-run cities where they're not able to actually do their job. Sure about that. Well, I said very best case scenario. But I mean, look, at the end of the day, to your point, like, people have a reason to mistrust government when they see stories like this and it's not going to help.

Yep. I think people are tending now to distrust technology in some ways. There are some really good technocrat. Here's the question. Here's the question. Would we be mad if they stopped the socialists from winning? I mean, she said before she wanted to abolish Thanksgiving. Do we want her getting anywhere near seats of power?

No. What if they... I'm of two minds. And those are? Well, first of all, obviously, like I want to keep the far left out of positions of influence. But at the same time, seeing as we have Mamdani,

we have the socialist mayor in Seattle. I don't, you know, if we were to get another person that is a far leftist, you will see clearly the difference between normal Republican government or politicians and leftist. You're going to see it in New York. You're going to see it in Seattle. And you're actually, you're already starting to see it in New York.

I just saw something that said that the highest rents now are the highest they've ever been, $6,700, I think, or something like that's $695, something like that. No, the highest per month. But still, the point is, you're going, if the highest ones go up, all the other ones go up, too. You know, it's like it's not like, it's not like, it's because. of rent control and stuff like that. These policies don't work and people need to understand that these promises that the far left makes, they can't deliver on them. So part of me doesn't want to see them win, but part of me wants to see them win and fail. So that way this,

this experiment is going on with socialist policies. You know, we nip it in the butt. You can tell people all you want that we had the best experiment in Berlin, right? From when the, from whatever, after the end of World War II until the wall came down. Same population, same people, same history. And East Berlin had to build a wall to keep people in. The average life expectancy of people in East Berlin versus the people in West Berlin was like three or four years shorter in East Berlin. And then after the wall fell, with intent. And then after the wall fell, within 10 years, the people of East Berlin, their life expectancy went up to equal with West Berlin. Like, you had all of these clear problems that socialism causes. You didn't have them in West Berlin,

but you had them in East Berlin. And it was undeniable. It's a part of why for almost 20 years after the Soviet Union fell, it was just kind of thought as a given. Socialism doesn't work. Like there are a few basket case countries or whatever that are still trying it with dictators, but the economic system, the economics of it don't work at all. And now you have people that want to flirt with it again, people that want to try it out again. And I don't want to see a significant battle in the United States, political battle in the United States between the far left and normal people. I want to see that kind of stuff nipped in the bud. Here's my hot take on how Republicans should think about this in competitive places like Wisconsin. It's actually to Republicans' interest for these Democratic Socialist candidates to win in the primary

because they're much more easily beatable in the general. Now you have an establishment Democrat who might actually put up a really competitive race against Tom Tiffany, but someone that said, I want to cancel Thanksgiving is going to be much more easy to beat. And so in this particular case, it's similar to like when the machine went against Bernie in 2016, right? Like they saw Hillary as the candidate that was more likely to beat the Republican. And so the machine turned against someone like Bernie Sanders. We want, I think, these Democratic socialists to win primaries in competitive places because it makes it easier for Republicans to win. Although there's the, I think Trump was that they wanted him to be the candidate in 16 because he was going to be easy to beat, I think.

I think that was their mindset. So you've got to be careful sometimes about installing a demon because the demon's easier to slay. Sometimes they'll win. That's true. They wrote in emails the DNC that Trump was their Pied Piper candidate That they would help prop him up because he would lead people astray Like he would be a candidate who can't win and it would fracture his base essentially And did the opposite

It's why I have an outright supported things I don't I just I love you know you know I want to say this I think That strategy from Hillary Clinton really shows the How obtuse the Democrats had been on the issue of their own what's the right word? Reasoning? No, no, no, no. Like ability to understand how much people hate them.

You know what I mean? Like is there a word for that? So Hillary's going, I got an idea. Let's help Trump be the nominee because people will hate him. And it's like, lady, when you stand next to Donald Trump, he looks like a supermodel. You know, you could have taken any one of these other Democratic candidates. They could have put up Tulsi. Bernie would have done way better. But when you stand, it's like Donald Trump on his own sure

compared to the way politics had been. Some people really liked them. Some people didn't like him. And then, you know, you put Donald Trump on the stage and it's polarizing. A lot of people are going to be like, oh, man, I like what he's saying, but I just don't like how he says it. I don't know if I could vote for a guy like that. Then Hillary, you know, shuffles over and she goes, and they're like, I'm voting Trump. It's like, you know what you do? Like, if you ever, If you ever saw like an average woman and you want to make her look better, you get an ugly woman to stand next to her. And then everyone's like, by comparison, she's like, yeah. They did.

She made Trump look so sexy. You know, it's really funny. Even in the literal sense, that's true. Yeah, women want them. I'm just saying, like when you look at how awful Hillary is, Trump is both physically attractive and politically attractive. I guess if Bernie had been the candidate, maybe he would have been the Pied Piper. I would have voted for Bernie. I didn't vote in that

because I couldn't stand either of those guys at that time. And I didn't understand what Trump. I didn't understand a lot of what was going on with migration and stuff too that he'd been talking about. Do you not think in today's politics that that dynamic overwhelmingly favors populist right-wingers over the left-wingers because a lot of the like things

that might be seen as slightly unpalatable or slightly crazy that a right-winger would say on migration or whatever else will resonate more with the average voter than someone that says, I want to cancel Thanksgiving, right? Like, I'm not sure it's like an equal dynamic on both the left and the right. No, I think you're right.

Like, look, the policies that are populist right nowadays were boilerplate Democrat 25 years ago. You know, like Barack Obama said that we need to, you know, deport illegals. Hillary Clinton said that we need to deporting legal. In the 90s, they were talking about building a wall. Like, these things are not actually radical policies. Right. They're very, they're very boilerplate. nationalist policies and people generally think of the, like Americans want to think of the United

States as a country and as a home to them and their children, their progeny, and they want to think of the United States as generally good. So like, that's not, these aren't, aren't some kind of off the wall things. Like nobody actually, like, no normal people think, oh, police need to be abolished. Right. You know, nobody thinks that. Right. Like, most people are like, no, you could probably give the cops a little more money because, you know, I know a couple cops and they don't make that great money and blah, blah, blah, you know. Look, look, this is, it's the brain rot generation, right?

So I go on Instagram and I've been getting, I watch a lot of body camera video footage because it's been popping off. Even like, you know, Asman Gold's been watching a lot of body cam stuff. Everybody is, there's no news. And it's like watching cops, dude. That show was fun to watch. But here's the thing.

Initially, the body camera stuff that I'm getting sent, it's like, I watched a video where a lady cop is walking up to a car and a guy pulls a gun on her and she freaks out and then there's like the she calls her backup and the guy shoots the driver and you're like oh wow that's crazy now i'm getting sent videos where cops are just murdering people and so you think about what happens to the brain rot generation when they go on instagram and they're in the carousel content machine they swipe and there's one video where a guy gets pulled over for some like minor infraction the cop does like a what's it what's it called suplex yeah and then when the

dude gets up, the cop just drops his gun and shoots them. And so you may have seen this video. It's gone, it was massively viral. The guy runs for a while and that just collapses and dies. And that cop got in trouble. There's another video where a guy's sleeping. You guys see this one? The cops, these guys are at a hotel.

They get trespassed. The cops go in and the guy's sleeping and he's like hitting him. He's like, wake up. And he's like blasting the light in his eyes. And the guy's like out of it. And then he just starts beating out of him. And then the next thing you see, he's like in the jail just like, oh, and he's like his face is covered in blood.

apparently that guy got in trouble. If you're only ever being sent videos of cops, just mercilessly beating people illegally, these people with internet brain rot literally think cops are going on to this. Take a look at what Kathy Griffin posted. You guys see what Kathy Griffin posted? Not lately.

Let me pull this one up for you guys because it's going to make you sad. You know, I'm sad by a lot of this stuff. I tweeted it. Let me see if I can find it. Because it wasn't that long ago of that woman. You do. Well.

I have watched her career for about 30 years, and I appreciate what she did in the early days. Once she pulled a visage of Trump's head out, a bloody stump, I was a little turned off and gave up on her. Did he still look beautiful in the stump? He was hot. It was an erotic photo, I guess is the best word

I could think to describe it erotic. And while Tim's pulling that up, I'm trying to pull it up. I can't find it. I don't know why it's not popping up. It's part of this echo chamber of, like, people seeing the cop videos that gets more and more intense, which is why a hard time answering your question

about, like, do you think people are more into the populace, right of the poppy because I'm in an echo chamber. I don't, I can't tell. I don't know how to tell. Do you think your average American sees that and like thinks all cops are bastards? Like, like, no. I'm not at first. But if they get bombarded, I think the human mind will get, it's valuable. So this was August 3rd. And I love threads. I'm a big threads fan because it's just like a paranoid. It's like going to the asylum. Kathy Griffin wrote, just had a full-on panic attack, was on my daily walk and passed two LA sheriffs, one with his motorcycle on the sidewalk. I have been harassed and recognized by law enforcement for the last nine

years, almost beyond belief. So one of them said to me, well, it's Kathy Griffin, and I started shaking, and I almost started crying. But I just waved and said, hey, fellas, could have been nothing, but now I have this scared feeling that I cannot get rid of. That means you need to do an intestinal cleanse, Kathy. You've got a lot of gut bacteria. You need to evacuate. You know what? Maybe.

It's making you nervous. All I can tell you is like, cortisol is out of control. This is, this is Threads brain. This is the paranoid delusional state. You want to, you want to know, let me tell you story. So I was in D.C. Last weekend. And we went to a restaurant.

I forgot what it was called, but it was right next to the convention center. They had a sneaker convention. And I had a wonderful breakfast hanging out. my boy Brandon. And so I was like, I'm going to go to the bathroom, right? It was what you do. You know, I just wanted to use the bathroom, you know? And so I did. And as I walked out, there was a, there was a cop walking into the bathroom. And I held the door from him. And he went, thanks. And I was like, yeah, that's literally all that happened. I can imagine how scared you were. I must have been terrified. Actually, it was seeing a police

officer. I was looking at his gun because I was like, he's probably got a car. You know, it's a good thing you were leaving. I opened the door. I went to the bathroom. I, I washed my hands, you know, I'm walking out. As I'm opening the door to leave, I see a cop walking, so I just hold the door for a second. He goes, thanks. I'm like, you got it, brother. Literally, the world these people living is horrifying. It's absolutely terrifying. I said liberals have it tough. I can't imagine living this way. Now, think about what happens then. If you go to Kathy Griffin and you say, should we abolish the police? What do you think she's going to say? You say yes. Now, here's the thing, is this is a phobia.

Yes. What do you call it? Copophobia? Yeah. That's probably something else. Lesophobia. It's one of the two. Phobia.

She's going to say, these poor innocent men in prison should be released because cops are bad because she's got brain rot. Meanwhile, the dude in jail has got like a toothbrush and is going, and then the guard walks up, but he's like, what are you doing? I'm practicing my stabbing.

It's like, well, Kathy Griffin just got you released. And he's like, And then he goes outside and stab somebody. Called capiofobia. What is it? Capiofobia. Yeah, that's what the internet says. You freaking capio.

C-A-P-I-O. Oh, so like Capo, the root word? Capio, yeah. From the Latin capio, which is arrest and Greek phobosphere. Capo is a rest. Oh, fear of arrest. Capio. Capio phobia.

It's without being redundant because I think it was probably. There's also scopophobia. What's that? Scopophobia. Fear of being watched. Oh, yeah. Oh. So I'm a scopophile.

You love being words. Witness me. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is media-induced psychotic derangement that a lot of people are going through. And maybe that's a redundant thing or an obvious thing to say. A lot of people in the audience probably already believe that or know that. But, you know, no point in not saying it.

Acknowledge it when it comes up. A lot of people are living like this. Like, it's ingrained in what they are right now. And it's not that they're always doomed to live like this. But, man, what a terrible. Way to be, man. That's like the crazy thing about leftist victimhood culture, right? Because you start seeing the things that you've told yourself

are going to be there in the first place. Right? You see that all the time. It's like, you're expecting the police to, like, do something bad to you. So you go into like a preemptive psychosis over it. When you can, when you're instructed or you're taught to see the world with a, with a power dynamic lens, right? So the oppressor and the oppressed.

And you see in every interaction, someone is the oppressor. someone is the oppressed, whether it be the employer and the employee, whether it be a white person as the oppressor and a brown person as the oppressed, the police as the oppressor and the citizen as the oppressed, there's a power dynamic. There's a way you can see basically every interaction as a power dynamic. And when you see the oppressor as always evil, right, you see the person in a position of authority as always evil, it starts to F with your mind. And it's, It really does cause anxiety. It causes, you know, neuroticism and stuff.

It makes people afraid of just normal interactions. And you hear it all the time from people. You're a victim in search of a crime or an oppressor. Like, you're looking for it at that point. I think that is true. And I, but I don't think it's only people that have leftist political views. Because I can see people, whether you consider on the right, that becomes scared of leftists as a concept. And when you meet, what's that?

That's also insane. Yeah. Right. Because when you meet people face to face, people are just people. Like you break through the political bullshit right away when you, if you go right in. I think the difference, though, is for a lot of leftism is it's like an ingrained ideological thing. Whereas like the oppressor versus oppressed and a dynamic. So it doesn't really exist as much on the right as it does in like left wing.

There's this guy named what? No, I think I think another quote you're going to say. So there's this guy named Palo Friari that wrote a book called the pedagogy of the oppressed, right? And this book basically teaches people to see the world through the market. power dynamic. And that book became a big deal in all of the schools of education, which are the schools that teach teachers. And so when you teach a generation or two or three of teachers to see the world like this and they pass it on to their students, not just in colleges, but in regular grade school, right? You're teaching kids, you know, oh, look, this is the way that the world works.

The world is always a power dynamic. And when you do that, it's not, to the people that have been conditioned to see the world like that, it's not political. It's just the way that they see the world. I think the world is a power dynamic, but it's way more than that. Like I was thinking yesterday about how like, you know how they say the rich get richer? Well, you can see that in nature. The hunter that succeeds is going to become a better hunter.

They're going to, because they're the ones that get the food. So they're the ones that have the nutrition to have the energy to hunt again tomorrow. So I understand the reality of power dynamic. It's natural. It's normal. Like this show is called Timcast. Tim has the right to shut it down. None of us can really complain about.

I mean, complain, but like there's a power dynamic. Everywhere you go, you're going to find them. But that doesn't mean that the authorities are evil or bad. It does not. You can have really good people in power. Yeah. And really even. And the problem that I see today is that, you know, in the Trump era, we had a large,

a coalition of people that were distrusting of power. The only problem is a good portion. of them distrust power no matter what. So even after they fought for Trump to get in, the grifters stepped in and said, we're going to just go after this, people that distrust power no matter what. So Trump finally wins. You're like, okay, he's defeated the deep state largely. They're still there. And there are people going, yeah, but now that he has power, he's bad. And it's like, you can't win that way. You can't win. Yeah. Well, I think to the point about like people on the right, having that mindset, it's a genuinely miserable way to live, right?

Like, Kathy Griffin obviously seems like a very miserable individual. It's important, I think, that the people on our side are cautioned against that because if you're going around looking for everything to be offended by or thinking someone's out to get you, it's a really depressing way to look at the world. And even, like, in small ways, like, obviously, like, we can watch The Odyssey and be upset that they, like, chose a transgender actor to represent a male or whatever or a black woman to be Helen of Troy, whatever. But that shouldn't necessarily prevent you

from also seeing the broader story or enjoying the movie as a whole. And fixating on those small little things, I think is just one of the reasons why a lot of people on the left are so miserable because it becomes this victimhood mentality. Right, if you fight back against it, it tends to win a lot of times.

Like, if you try and struggle against evil, evil consumes you. It lives rent-free in your head at the end of the day. And like, accepting it that it's part of reality, even though it's goofy, or if you think it's whatever that thing is that you don't like. It's a goofy part of reality,

but I'm better. Instead of complaining about how bad that is, just show them how good you are. Like, be the beacon that people will turn to look at. That's, I think, that's where I'm thinking after what you said. Yeah. I mean, I get what you're saying.

But if you look at polls and stuff like that of just overall happiness, people on the left are generally less happy than people on the right. 100%. It's because they have this worldview. Like, if you're constantly looking for who's oppressed,

you. You're putting, you're taking, and I've talked about this a lot in the past couple, past couple weeks, but if you, if you feel like people are constantly oppressing you, you have the mindset that the world happens to you. You don't have, you don't happen to the world. You don't have agency. Someone else is causing all of the problems in your life. And that means you'll look to someone else to solve them. If you have a mindset of agency where you can go out and do things you're going to happen to the world not that the world happens to you not that other people do uh you know create your circumstances you create your own circumstances you're going to live a happier life overall because you will feel like you that you taking action in the world

is going to produce a better result for you than sitting by and saying well i can't do this because you know someone's going to take it away or i can't do that because someone's just going to, you know, screw it up for me. Or if I try to do this, it's just going to get messed up. So, oh, you know, you turn into like, you know, team bound. And, you know, it's much better to be on team good times. Or you're like, you know what? Let's go do this.

Let's go try this. I think we can do it. And if we mess it up, so what, man, we can try again, you know, or we'll learn something from messing it up. It's fine to mess up. It's fine to make mistakes. Let's go out and, you know, give it our all. And we'll learn something and next time we'll be better. That's team good times.

if you're on team bum out, oh, you know, what's the point of trying? You know. Life's happening to you. You're not setting the tone of yourself. Exactly. And that kind of that kind of attitude of agency is a big part of why people feel better about themselves and about their lives. People on the right tend to feel better about themselves and their lives than people on the left. You know what you got to do? You got to make an X account and a threads account and on X just be like hardcore MAGA and on threads be just anti-Trump. and it'd be the funniest thing in the world because it'll work. Well then you can also take screenshots of your threads account, put them on

to X and plow on yourself and then take screen shots of your X account. I mean literally like Ian has an Ian cross on threads where he's just like Trump is bad and then actually is like you know Trump is trying his hardest because they've like I'm just on threads right now and it's completely bifurcated.

People have isolated each other. On threads it's just endless left Trump is evil, he's a fascist. These people are just plum, crazy. Right. On X, it's all very moderate to write. Threads is nuts.

I'm curious your take on, like, obviously, the, like, Elon takes over X or Twitter calls it X and free speeches back, all that kind of stuff. But also, because of that bifurcation, it feels like some of the more like substantive dialogue that used to happen is no longer happening. Agreed. Like, you have the same experience?

Well, I mean, it's largely true. Take a look at the Krasenstein's and pull up their thread, and it's like they just gave up. Yeah. They post just, it's like boomer memes at this point, where it'll be a video of Trump walking out of a helicopter, and they're like, how could he do it? And you're like, they're not even trying anymore. And it's true. So it's like, a bunch of them had this moment where they're like, I'm out of X. Like it's insufferable.

I'm going to go somewhere else. And then they literally, to your point, just gave up. Yeah, I think so. Well, they're on threads. I go on threads all the time. I love it. It's just like It's pure nuts

I don't I have it I hardly ever look at it Yeah I made one And I can't delete it now So it's the Oh you're stuck with it It's integrated into your I love it when I see like on threads or Instagram

And the boomers fall for the AI stuff And it's just Listen man I'm telling you the AI stuff I saw I've seen more than enough videos Where it's like a Gen Z dude reacting To what is clearly AI

and it's got a million views and all the comments are like, whoa. And then you'll see one halfway down the comments being like, guys, it's AI, but nobody cares. You see Anthropics that they're going to start watermarking their text? Honestly, I like that idea. So that any text created, you have an invisible watermark on it. Yeah. And then eventually

I think there'll be tech out there to bypass it, but it's kind of cool. Yeah. I mean, I think with AI, it's going to be, this is a little bit of a tangent. There's going to be the it's going to segment into three different entities. One of them is going to going to be the human is going to stay human. Then there's going to be the AI that becomes a sentient

entity, an invasive species that is here with us and like dangerousness. And then there's going to be people that merge with AI and become a bored creature to combat the AI thing. And then it's like we kind of have a duty of this generation, people that are actually aware of it to to bind with the machine before some evil sycophants, like sick people do it and take over and become the most dominant evil creature in the universe. Like that's, it's a horrible, I don't want to. bind with a machine, but it's the same. I mean, we're doing it right now. We're using a camera to talk to half a million people that are like in real time.

We're interfacing with your brain. This is like, you know, this is quasi-technic. What? Quasi-technic. The nice thing about English is you can make words by adding preface. He needs a chip implant. You're thinking of German. Somebody reset me.

You're thinking of German, not English. As long as you use a hyphen, you know, you're good. At a really high level, to your point, that's also like the reason we want the U.S. to when the AI race did not like the Chinese Communist Party. Because like they will use it for reasons that we clearly do not want. And they're, their moral qualms about like using it on humans or whatever else is just, they're nonexistent.

It's like a layer on the cake of talking about social media-induced psychosis, like what Kathy Griffin's going through this. It's a whole other. You guys want to, you want to go into the deep underbelly? Oh, every day. Yes. Let's talk about bobblehead girl.

Did you guys see the story of bobblehead girl? She's not real. She's not real. Bumblehead woman behind Trump in Oval Office explains why she kept holding her stomach. Jamie Franklin, who went viral for nodding her head along and holding her stomach behind Trump, says she's pregnant, not a zapper. Let me play this video for you first. So here's the video of the woman. So, extremely seriously, as we have been for the last year and a half, and more of the presidency.

At the NIH, what we've done is we have established the Autism Data Science Initiative, which started almost a year, actually more than a year ago, where we funded a dozen and more major research teams to answer the question of what is the cause of autism? Donald Trump was reported to be snowed off. We don't need whatever that is, but everyone's saying that she's a robot. So let me pull up this year post from threads. Cosmos connector says,

so the scarf is to hide the fact this person is wearing a mask and they wanted to make sure we couldn't see that it's not connected to the neck, hair is a wig too. You know, I gotta say, uh, it does kind of look like a mask. Yeah. The more I look at it.

It actually does. Wow. I don't want to burst anyone's bubble here, but I have actually met her. Yeah, but real life. Yeah, but there was, that was still a robot. Hold on, hold on.

See, this is, you're playing games, bro, you're playing games. The point is, the point is, you see the story about Usher hiring a body double? Yeah. No. I did. Oh, come on guys.

Oh, come on. Give it to me. See, all I do is read the news all day, every day. I read hundreds of articles. I did it for like an hour today, and I was thinking about it. I should respond after viral concert footage sparks body double claims. Bro, why not? This may blow your mind.

Guys, did you know that the Blue Man group? It's actually a bunch of different people. No way. Really? Yep. Did you not know that? I was kidding. I know, I had a friend.

Don't they appear on stage at the same time? So initially it was one, it was three guys. Then they started, they were like, anyone can put on. latex and paint and be a blue man. So they franchised, basically. So you could do their shows. It's brilliant. Yes. If you're Usher and you're like,

yo, just hire a guy and pay him like 10K per show to be me. Oh, and then he's going to do backing tracks of his voice? I mean, he could have been doing another show. No, not even that. Bro, you could easily find a look-alike who can sing. And if you put it in the terms of the ticket purchase, they can't really sue you.

No, they can't sue either way because Usher is a brand and the performance is there. And how are you going to prove the guy on stage and you see a tiny little dude on stage? So my point is, you may have met her. But maybe she hired a body double because she had, you know, a prior engagement and needed the appearance. I'm telling you, man, you watch the, like the expos over in China, like the robot expos and stuff. And they have robots that look similar. Very similar.

She has a belly button zapper to wake him. up. She's pregnant. So the other conspiracy theory is that she's got a button that she's pressing to shock Trump awake on her belly button. She's sleeping. Like a BSG. That's Hassan actually in a robot costume.

I saw a tweet and I said, I'm pregnant, L.O.L. And it was her or whatever. But maybe it was her. Maybe it was just a person claiming to be her. I'm so confused by the media these days. So if she's a robot, like what do we think? She's like a U.S. robot or some other country?

I hope to God. No, no, no, no. She's not a robot. It's so silly. She's a lizard person. She's wearing the mask, you know, doing lizard person stuff. I think it's funny, too, though, because you can actually see her neck. I honestly just think it's a low-res camera and a lot of makeup.

And a lot of makeup. And it's just because, like, she's expressionless. I'm not trying to be a dick, but she's just not really emoting. There's a moment when you first pulled this up where I was like, oh, my God, does Trump have, like, a robot guard? And obviously, I know he doesn't. But thinking about the first president that will have be flanked by two robots. as his guard, his personal guard. How did we get here?

It's because a dude had a robot next to him in the Oval Office one day. We should start a robot armed guard service company called Pretoria. That's a good name. Bring it back. And then the president can have some Praetorian guards. Oh, yeah. We know how that went. Aren't they basically working on those exoskeletal things for the military that you've had?

They've had those for a long time. Yeah, but the problem with that is, let me do this. Do you ever watch the show, Venture Brothers? Yeah, I love that show. You never seen it? So Venture Brothers was a parody of Johnny Quest, basically, but a bunch of other comic book elements. So it was parodying, like, a lot of the comic book stuff. And so, you know, the, what's the, I didn't even remember the guys named since I've seen the show.

The grandpa? The main guy. Venture. There was a, Dr. Venture. Two kids. Yeah, Dr. Venture. So he's like a scientist and he's got a bunch of crazy stuff. One of the bad guys has a henchman who has a comic book nerd, a fat guy. He shows up to a yard sale for Dr. Venture with all these crazy gadget and gizmos.

and he finds a lightsaber. And he's like, oh my God. And he's like swinging on, he's like, I have to get it. And then he's like, how much for the lightsaber or for the laser sword or whatever? And Dr. Venture's like, oh, I don't know. I made it for the Army,

but they said we don't sword fight anymore. That was one of the best jokes because a lightsaber is a stupid weapon. Like, it's just stupid. But it's sci-fi fantasy and people are like, how cool it would be of a lightsaber? It's like, dude, a gangbanger would shit, a 12-year-old kid with a gun

is going to beat you with a lightsaber. Lightseyebri doesn't do anything. It's cool that it can. So the point is, there's no more ballistics. Exoskeleton suits are the same thing. Why am I going to build a suit for a guy when I can get a $50 drone with a kilo a C4 and just fly it through the air and blow you up? Those things, I think they're four. You can get a kilo C4?

No, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm going to get a chloempathetically. I'm saying hypothetically. Right now the mechanical, the bio, what are they called the mech suits that dudes get in are more for lifting, exosuits for lids. lifting, like being like construction dudes on site. They're like lifting. But why when you can just have a forklift? See, this is the thing. You know, you know, the U.S. military was trying to build jet packs.

The idea was, I think this is like the 50s. I can't remember what year was. But they're like, hey, you know, like, what if our dudes could fly? Like, we'd win every war if we had jet packs. Rocket, man. So they built jet packs. And the problem is the fuel burnoff is so quick. I think the best they ever did, even to this day, is like 30 minutes.

So back then they got it to like five minutes of flight time And they're like you got this ridiculous rig You're gonna fly for like five minutes And then what, dump it? That's ridiculous And so they put a platform you stand on And it would float up actually let me see if I can find this Flying US Military Platform Let me see if I can find the video it

What years were these around? Yeah I got it's called the the Hiller VZ1 Pawnee And so you know what they finally figured out the 1955 hoverboard. The United States Navy reveals the closest thing yet to a magic carpet. It's called the Flying Platform. The safety lines keep it close

to the ground as the pilot demonstrates how he steers, merely by shifting his weight in the direction he wants to go. Still in research, it may yet become an Austin 7 of the air. Two small engines drive two propellers rotating in opposite directions underneath the flying platform.

Taking off in untethered flight, it rises on the blast of air sucked in through holes in the top of the platform and driven down by the propeller thrust. In California, where it was built, the flying platform hovers only a few feet from the earth like a power-driven pogo stick. So you want to know why they never use those things? Because they're death machines? Helicopters. They were like, why don't we just do helicopters, and then we can transport a handful of dudes, and those things can store fuel and fly for a long time. so jet packs were just not realistic. To this day, people dream of having jet packs.

And they've made more efficient ones where you've got the arm pieces and you can lift off and stabilize, but they're still generally inefficient. There are people who, have you seen those wingsuits that have engines, and they look like they're people

attached to little planes, just inefficient. It makes no sense. It has to be disposable. It just doesn't make any sense. It's super lightweight, too. It's got to be lightweight to be effective. If you could make,

make a suit that could compress down into like a backpack and used a kind of fuel cell that was very energy dense. Maybe solid state batteries are now in the works. They're very energy dense. Maybe we'll get there. But to the point about exosuits, it's just why? Well, I like them because they're compact, because you can fold them up, put them in the back of a truck. And then if the truck breaks down, a guy can get out, suit up and lift the truck out of the mud, potentially. I think that's the idea is that they're portable. There's probably some like, like, you know, when the, The seals go in to, like, extract, like, a high-value target. Ukraine just deployed...

I mean, individual skeletons on the front line. No, they actually did this. We have these. If you lose the suit, dog. Not in the defense expo, in combat. Suits more valuable than the soldiers. Okay, so this is fake. It gets to a point where...

I like that movie not. Will it... Somehow... Let's just jump ahead. So, I want to point this out, right? So, we actually own these. I forgot what they're called. We have, we have, like, four pairs of these.

Yeah. They attach to your thighs. You have them here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're downstairs. What are we waiting for? We've already made videos with them. We sit down during the show. We don't have to walk around.

When you... When you... So, like, it centers the pressure on your, on your, like, hips. Yeah. And when you lift your leg, it's got an algorithm that, like, a miniature AI that the actuators lift your leg for you. So it reduces the amount of muscle use when you're walking by, like, 15 to 20 percent. I think the four.

funniest thing is we filmed the skate video with it. And we were like, let's try skateboarding with these things. It just doesn't do anything. Because skateboarders, you don't go forward. You go sideways. So your legs are like this. You go leg sideways. And you jump. And I was like, bro, what if this helps you jump? And like, you could skate

better. It didn't. It's just... It's just... It's worse. It just doesn't do anything. It just does nothing. You know, I'd be worried about falling and landing your back, whatever. The company hit us up and they were like, yo, did it work? Did it make skateboarding easier? And I was like, nah. I wish I could say yes, because it'd be so cool, we do commercials for you, but nah, nah.

What I will say is, this actually does make sense. These things do work. They're actually fairly incredible. And I forgot what they're called, because we got them a year ago. We haven't downstairs. If you guys had to pick and get like these cybernetic. Hyper shell, like surgically implanted into. Do we know where these are?

They're downstairs somewhere. I thought I saw them like lying on the ramp or something like that. Yeah. So for hiking, they're actually, they actually do work. When you walk, you're like, holy crap. Like it walks for you, basically. In sci-fi, in Starcraft, I don't know if you have to play Starcraft. Tychus is one of the characters who, he's a criminal.

So one of their punishments is you can either die, spend your life in prison, or we're going to put you permanently inside of a mex suit. And so they surgically implant him into the mech suit. And he's, that's his life, is now he's in a mech suit. And then, like, ex-com dudes get mech suits that are, like, badasses. But then you get dudes that are mutants that are, like, genetically altered. So, like, one guy might be able to run super far because he's got mechanical legs, but the other guys just genetically

re-disposed and not need oxygen. Look, a big part of at least infantry kind of stuff, like not really special forces stuff, but infantry stuff. It's just carrying heavy shit up mountains. Endurance. Because you're, like, if you can get a position, a higher position than your opponents,

you have an advantage. It's harder to shoot up than it is to shoot down. So you're carrying heavy machine guns, you know, 20 pounds plus all the ammo, plus all your gear, you're carrying 100 pounds up a mountain. That was one of the things that they talked about And it's one of the hardest things about being in Afghanistan, Afghanistan, is if you're in the mountainous regions, you're basically just carrying heavy shit up the mountain all the time.

And so you put those things on and they can help it and help make it easier because you get up to the top of the mountain and then you get attacked. You know, you got a bunch of dudes that are sucking wind because it air's thinner. It was hard to get all crap up there. You got to run around trying to get a defensive position and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So those kind of things will actually make it easier for you to get stuff where you need to get it, carrying your gear. It's not about making you superhuman and being able to, like,

leap tall buildings or anything or run super fast. It's about making it easier to carry a load. Reducing fatigue. Is it held like a battery or something? It's got removable batteries. So, I mean, they're downstairs.

I just don't feel like running down a gram. I don't want to get them. I just don't know where they are. You can check the kitchen. They might be in the kitchen. If not, they might be by the door. Are they in a box? Man, I don't know.

Gander. Is anybody here you can ask? Were they expensive? Yeah, there's several thousand dollars. Yeah. So like we got the ultra high end one. It's two grand each. Did they send these to you or did you?

No, no, no. I mean, that is expensive. But I mean, you're looking at the gear that a just a normal infantry man carries now. Like you're looking at a Kevlar helmet. That's like two grand. Your PVS 14 Night Vision, that's just a single monocle that's like three grand. The mistake, what they need to do, the reason why this is limited is like it does help. It does reduce exertion.

your thighs. But if they extended down to your feet and they had platforms where you, like, you stood on it. Yeah, yeah. And it actually reduced the weight of, like, your carry weight, that would be massive. That means if you're carrying a large backpack and the backpack mounts to the back of the brace, which is then supported on the ground, it's going to remove 100 pounds of weight off your back. Yeah, yeah. Then when you start walking, you'll still have a little, You're still carrying a portion of the weight, but it's going to reduce your carry weight by a large percentage. So that's cool. But, you know, for war, it's funny to see that Ukrainians are using these things because it probably is good for long, you know, hikes.

It's going to be good. These things matter, you know, soldiers march on their bellies. But I think what they're doing with drones is just more effective. Yeah, for sure. To be fair, a drone can't occupy a street corner, though. So have you guys seen the footage of all the fiber optic cables all over the forest like spider webs? No. They control the drones through.

fiber optic cables, really thin ones. Because the wireless ones were getting jammed up, they were using jammers. Blast them out of the sky. That's crazy. Isn't it like draped? Almost like they got toilet paper. Like webs all over the trees, dude. It's crazy. Yeah, man, the world that we live in.

Should we talk about the DOJ? We got this story from Politico. Ex-Southern Poverty Law Center official charged in broader criminal case against group, lawyer says, Heidi Byritch, a political extremism expert, yeah, who served as the law center's chief financial officer was named an indictment on Sealed Wednesday. Is this the lady who was giving money to her white supremacist's husband? I was a boyfriend.

Boyfriend? Yeah. Like a million bucks or something? I think it was more than that. Yo, these people are swindlers. I'm not surprised she looks like that. You know, the sad thing is, I shouldn't say the sad thing, but like the funny thing is, they have this ethos of there's, there's. no truth but power, right? And so in their mind, they're like, so they can steal whatever they

want because all that matters is you exert your power. The problem is, that's a Pogo. I didn't want to come back empty-handed, so I got this. I just brought this to show off. Are you going to show us? Could you go up the mountain like with one of these? No, it's also filthy, so keep that thing away from the table. I'm going to get out of here. Kellan did say check. Let's see where you said. Did he really ask if you could go up the mountain with that? Shells by the door to the warehouse. That's what I said. Yeah.

It says by the door. I'll glimpse it. I don't want to. Look, there's like black. There's like black briefcases. You might find it in there or a box, you know. But yeah, the point is these people believe there's no, there's no truth but power. And so they're like, so I can steal, right?

The problem is they're too stupid to get away with it. You know? Yeah. I mean, the, you know, the whole like, the whole, like, the whole woke. two, woke one was crazy thing that you're talking about. I think that actually speaks to what Tim was talking, just mentioned the whole, there is no truth but power. Right.

Like, they're not looking to change any of their actual, you know, the things that they want. They're just looking to change the narrative surrounding them. So they want, they say, oh, woke one was bad, but woke two, you know, woke one was kind of crazy and we went a little overboard. They haven't changed any of the policies that they're talking about. they're still going to call everyone racist. What have they changed? Nothing, not a single thing.

They're still for defunding the police. Yeah, there is not a policy that they have actually said we don't support that anymore. You know, my only problem with this story, they did not arrest more people. Yeah, I mean, it would be cool if they arrested. I don't know. I don't know if she's been arrested. She's been charged. They say that she's 59 years old of Palm Springs, wire fraud conspiracy.

Conspiracy to submit false statements to a federally insured bank. Yeah, they made. What did they did? One of their organizations, their proxies was called the CIA. Yeah. Center intelligence or something like that. Yeah, it was like a same acronym. Yeah.

Here's the black-pilling thing about it, right? Because SPLC was using donor money that they were funneling to the KKK and other things. And so, like, you're a citizen that thinks they're, like, supporting an organization that's fighting against racism and the KKK and stuff like that. you give dollars and it turns out, like you find out that your very dollars are the ones going to the thing it's supposed to go against. Keeping the dream alive. I know. I know. It's like, like, who is involved with the KKK these days except for the people being funded by these programs?

There just wasn't enough racism to act to go around, so they have to create it. They had, you know, they went and they said all these other things, all these things are racist dog whistles and these are racist symbols. And, you know, the okay sign is a racist symbol because of a troll from, from, from, you know, foreshan. There were people that were saying, you know, there are people still saying that the Jerusalem cross is a white supremacist symbol. Like, this is the Jerusalem cross. It's on the floor of the chapel that, I think that, or not chapel, the church that

Joe Biden, there's a picture of Joe Biden in the church with the Jerusalem cross on the floor. Like, this is not in any way a racist, white supremacist symbol. But they need to convince people that the things that were, you know, 15 minutes ago were totally normal. They need to convince people that these are actually now racist symbols. So that way you can give us more money. So that way we can go and find more racist symbols. And it's just a, you know, it's just a never-ending circle of, or never-ending cycle of them basically finessing money out of people that want to feel virtuous.

that you want to make sure that they're like, we hate racism, even though the United States is one of the least racist countries on earth. We hate racism, so we're going to give you more money. You give them money. They go and they find more racism. And then they say, look, we found all this racism. You got to give us more money.

It's just a cycle of finessing people. No luck. No look. Chainsaw. There's a bunch of cool stuff down there, but no, I didn't find it. I'm disappointed. There was so many things to look through. I was like, this chainsaw looks cool.

This body armor is amazing. What are these? Thoughts on SPLC funding the KKK? What? Does new news break about it? Yeah. The person in charge of the SPLC was arrested, or at least indicted, I think. Charged.

Charged, there you go. The charge is inevitable if they're really, like, what were they illegally funding the KKK? That's the name, I guess. Well, you know, they were taking donations to fight racism, and they were giving it to racist, organizations. That is freakish. That's like the Antifa window repair people. They go break windows at night and then the next day they show up to fix your windows.

Yeah. Exactly. That's the, you know, like I was just telling him, it's just a cycle. They tell, they convince people that don't want to be thought of as racist, that think racism is the worst thing in the world. They convince those people that there's a bunch of racism out there and that the SPLC is going to expose it. They convince him to give them money. They take the money. They go and they give it to

racist and they give it to organizations that are, that are, that are, are allegedly racist or whatever, and then they say to the people, look, there's all these other racist people that we've found. Give us more money. And it's just a never-ending cycle. Didn't they find that SPLC was also funding the Charlottesville stuff that happened? It's just like such a convenient narrative, especially now that the bottom's kind of falling out and most of the political violence we're seeing in the U.S. is like by ostensibly left-wing groups and individuals. And being able to point back like, oh, well, actually, look at these far-right racist extremists doing these things that actually. it turned out to be funded by the very leftists that are perpetrating a lot of the other violence. It's kind of nuts. It wouldn't surprise me to find that the liberal economic order has been funding insurgent,

fear-based campaigns with the KKK, with other race-based groups, with, you know, any kind of power dynamics they can find that they would get in there, put their finger on the scale, and freak people out and just terrify the American people because that's the way, the only way to overthrow the United States is from within. It's the only way. The military is too strong. So it would not shock me in all to find out the big money. USAID money has been pouring through these guys

to keep this tumult rolling in the U.S. as we kind of move towards a new world order. Right. It kind of reminds me of this story. I know if you guys saw this a few years ago, but the Kremlin was funding these green activist groups in Germany to advocate against nuclear power and natural gas.

And especially nuclear obviously is like the greenest source of energy possible. Yeah. They're directly funneling them money so that Germany would shut down all of their reactors and then rely on Russia for natural gas. And it's like one of the things that you see is like whether it's Russia in that case or the left in this particular case is like your opponents are often so much more prepared and actually like creative about the ways that they're going to screw you than you think you are than you think they think they are. And so you got to be so much more vigilant than we are. And I think being able to trace this stuff, that's one of the things I think the Trump administration is doing so well right now is like you need a certain minimum level of ruthless. and going after these people.

And I think there's always been this like mindset like, ah, nah, they wouldn't do that. Like, that's too crazy. Like the left funding the KKK, nah, that would never happen. And then like literally it is happening. Like being able to like ruthlessly expose that, I think is just like absolutely critical. I'm looking it up now, but, you know, Vladimir Lenin, the guy who led the Bolshevik revolution of USSR,

spent a lot of time in Germany. And people, I believe I remember learning that he was like sent by the, like, instructed by the Germans, funded by the Germans to go back to. Russia and do this thing. I just want to confirm that that's true. But he spent a lot of time in Germany before he was exiled from Russia. And then he spent time in Germany and they got him fired up and sent him back or he went back. I mean, it's the same way that the Cubans train all these operatives across South America and then like literally train them to infiltrate governments, including the U.S. governments. Like there's 100% Cuban spies within the U.S. government.

These are people just been trained and we've never like been strong enough to actually try and like uncover this. We're just too naive. Yeah, yeah. Lenin was. in exile and was sent back to Russia by the Germans in 1917, essentially to overthrow the Russian Empire. They worked. They deliberately permitted Lenin. This is the German government and a group of Russian revolutionaries to cross Germany by train. Bro, this has been happening since the dawn of man. It's a false flag operation. If you're funding what they, what you're, what you're, say you're up against, you're, I guess they call it false flag because it's literally they're waving a flag. You're flying a fake flight. Right. But in this, so it's a hyperbolic or metaphoric false

flag, but it's ancient technique to fund your enemy and then say, hey, look, there's an enemy joining me. Almost like a Trojan horse, you know? Yeah. Kind of. Kind of? Well, the Trojan horse was, we snuck inside their base, but this is, I mean, it's a way to

get people to attack from within. Right. Oh, man, I'm on high alert against it right now. Against a Trojan horse? Yeah, against these kinds of behaviors with the media, telling us to think things and credit scores

you think of all the ways they manipulate us with numbers and entertainment and credit scores are fake yeah so that's like it's one step away from social credit score it is a social credit score credit scores don't track credit

credit worthiness it tracks whether or not you are you are in debt so in order to have a good credit score being rich doesn't guarantee you have a good credit score having a lot of debt that you maintain gives you a good credit score.

So you could make $50,000 a year, have 10 credit cards, and you're paying the minimum on each of them, good credit score. Yeah, they want you to be in debt, which is, that's the false flag. That's the Trojan. Like, you think the economics, the people at the top, would want you to not be in debt so that the economy could be healthy,

but they want you to maintain debt and interest payments so that they can keep siphoning off the interest and then keep you, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you're definitely buying a credit score, right? if you have a so you, but the point of it is, isn't just do you pay your pay debt off? Is it, it's can you manage your debt? Right?

So, but it's, do you have a lot of debt? And do you pay it, pay it regularly? If you have little debt, you have a bad credit score. And you know what bothers me when I go to make my, that's, yes. When I make my, because I have no debt. Right. Well, I mean, yeah.

There's an option for payoff balance in total. I'm like, why don't they let me leave? That's bad. I know you want to leave money in the credit card, which is stupid. We need to do. That should be illegal. So New York actually has a funny human rights thing that I was reading about earlier today, that you can't discriminate employment based on credit score.

So jobs used to run your credit to see if you had a good score, and then New York City made it illegal. I don't know if I agree with that, maybe, but it certainly shouldn't be allowed that your credit score can be impacted negatively by paying your debts. Yeah. We need to overhaul the credit scoring system, and it should literally just be the more debt you have, the worst score your risk. The worst, the more debt you have, the worst, worse your score is. Yeah.

I think that, I think it's a little too simple that way because your debt to income, if you have like a lot of income and you have some debt, it's not a problem. And also, I do think that you're, you know, if you can make you, if you're not, if you're making payments. I disagree. The idea that, the idea that billionaires can take out a $10 million loan and and then use that loan at a lower interest rate and the interest rate generated from their their bank accounts and from their stock.

Yeah, bad credit score. Okay, that, okay, that's. You have $10 million in debt. Your credit score is zero. Yeah, I'm talking about for like the average person because there's, you know, there's, but the issue is. The reason why it never works is because, let's say Elon Musk took out a $10 million loan against his stock, putting his credit score to zero.

It won't matter. Elon Musk walks into a place and says, I want to buy it there and say, done. Yeah, because he's got so much assets. Because they know who he is. Yeah, yeah. But the idea that a working class guy says, I think it's a bad idea I have credit cards, you should only spend what you earn,

so they give him a bad credit score and now he can't get a loan for a house. That's heinous. He's got no debt. He's going to be fine. He's got a good job. He can prove his income. What's the credit score?

Get three credit cards and put a little bit of debt on all of them and then just pay off the minimum and keep debt on three credit cards. So I don't know how much interest I've paid over the decades, but like what a stupid system. You're paying, you're buying your credit score is what it ends up being. Yeah, I'm paying to play their game. Yes. But don't you only pay the interest if you go in arrears, like you're not paying it on time.

You've got to pay at least your statement balance. Right. And there's a monthly interest accrual. If you don't, if you have a balance, it'll give you like 6%. I mean, really, you want to keep your credit card below, like, the way they say it is they want, you want to keep your credit card below like 25% of whatever your max is. So if you got like 10 grand, you'd put $1,000 on there, keep it on there, pay a little bit, put something on it, pay a little bit, keep it below $2,000. That way they're getting their little cut of your income, and that will be, you know, that'll make your credit score go up. To reiterate, the reason I brought up credit scores is because this is an instance of like the SPLC funding the KKK.

These people are supposed to oversee our economy, and yet they're intentionally instructing people. to go into debt, which is the stupidest technique to make a good economy. Well, I mean, debt isn't inherently always bad, right? Like debt is, you can use debt to, you know, to start a business, to do things, to buy a house. So it's not inherently always bad. Getting too much debt, yes, that's bad. And people can very easily get in over their heads that the credit card company is giving an 18-year-old, a $15, $20,000 credit limit. that's almost predatory, in my opinion.

But, like, just the concept of debt, in my opinion, like, it's not always bad. Like, there are times where debt is, you know, it could be a good thing. Take a loan and then invest it in some product and then triple your money and then pay back the loan. Well, I mean, companies use loans to pay, to pay for, you know, a lot of things. If you have to invest a million dollars into a company, right? You take a loan out for a million and a half because you've got people that you have to pay that are on top of whatever your cost for the building is. And you'll use that kind of debt to cover your payroll and stuff like that. But because businesses don't just automatically start producing money,

you'll use that leeway that the debt gives you until your business starts actually producing revenue. And that's a normal thing, you know. What do you guys think of things like loan sharks, right? Like short-term, 30-day loans, but it's predatory. Pawn shops? Yeah, the problem with that is it's a guaranteed cycle of, of, destruction for the individual. If you are in need of a quick loan at a high interest rate, you ain't paying that loan back.

Yep. So like payday loans are a terrible thing. Like you're backlogged and it's going to keep backlogging and then eventually you're going to implode. Should we bear on you? I don't know if I know enough about the economics of short-term loans to advocate for a banning of it. I might be open to that because like usury was, I mean, I think it was punishable by death

points of history because that's like charging, what's that? In the Old Testament, yeah. In the Old Testament, charging exorbitant interest on loans, basically. And the Christians were like, we're not going to do it anymore. In the Bible, the Jews were charging exorbitant interest rates and it was like an ethos of Christianity. It was like it's not ethical to do that.

It is. Interest rates are a good thing. On the loan, like a 100% interest rate? No, no, no, no, no, never said that, I mean, that's bad business. My point is, what if they're desperate, you know? I've got, I work really hard and I trade a bunch of, you know, birdhouses and end up getting a bunch of gold. And I'm like, wow, I finally have all this gold. You come to me and say, I have a really good idea for better birdhouses, but I just don't

have the gold right now. And it's going to take me a year to get it. And I say, wait, wait, wait, hold on. What if I give you 10 gold pieces, but you pay me back 11? That's interest. But that's, I think that's not usury. 10% interest is reasonable. 100% would be like out of it.

I'm pretty sure usury is just any interest on a loan. Yeah, I mean, so, so like, the the what in Lending money at extremely high unfair interest okay I understand

there's like a specific like form of use redis exploitative which I don't think your example obviously right no okay then I agree with you then credit cards

shouldn't be 25% 30% like that's crazy but like the and I don't think the Fed should be setting

interest rates either like I think that that should be a that's something the market should do because all an interest rate is is the cost

of money it's just another price right you go to the store, you'll get the price of bread, that's how much the bread costs. You go down the street, maybe the bread's a little cheaper. You get about, you know, you'll get a general equilibrium in an area, like a certain, you know, like in a state or in a town or whatever. Most of your bread is going to be about the same. Most of your eggs are going to be the same, if they're the same quality, right? So interest rates are just another price. It's just information.

This is how much it's worth me giving you money that I already have. You have to pay me a price and risk, right? Like, that's the main thing. I think there comes a point where it's so exploitative that there probably needs to be some intervention there. Yep. On average, like, the economy would implode if you can charge interest for the things that you do because nobody would lend money to anyone. And anytime you give the government, which the Federal Reserve is part of the government,

you know, the way that it operates, even though it's technically not. Anytime you give that kind of power to manipulate interest rates, to decide what the interest rate should be, you're giving them the ability to basically fix a price. And, you know, generally, you don't want the government setting prices for things because the market does a better job than the government does. If the government can't do it. Yeah. If it was like an automated system that automatically changed and shifted based on whatever the market economics of the day were, like a fire hose that opens and closes on its own? No, it would be just like. any other price. So like prices aren't set by like no one, it's not a command. There's no,

no government agency saying this has to be this much and this has to be that much. If a business says we're going to sell this bread for five bucks and the business down the street says I will sell that bread for three bucks because I can, you know, cover the cost and cover my expenses for significantly less than this store does, then this store doesn't sell that bread. The same thing with money. If this bank is saying, we'll lend you interest. at, we'll lend you $100,000 at 10% interest. And then there's a bank down the street that says, I'll lend you that same money for 7% interest.

That's the same kind of price. But the problem is when the Federal Reserve loans the money to the banks, it's only one choice. That's why I'm saying that the Fed shouldn't be deciding what the interest rate is. Who would decide the Fed's interest? The Fed shouldn't be in that business at all. You don't think the Federal Reserve should be accruing interest? No, I agree with you.

No, there should, the market should decide what the price of money is. is not the Federal Reserve. Let's show up to this story from the independent, desperate U.S. sailors trying to jump overboard on extended Middle East deployment, families say. Yikes. Concerns have been raised about conditions on board the USS Abraham Lincoln with claims of food shortages and sailors' mental health struggles. This story's been ongoing for some time.

We've heard that there's been potential sabotage because they just keep them on this deployment. They say the aircraft carrier accrued by about 5,000 has been deployed. since November 21st, but more lately has been supporting U.S. military operations in the war with Iran. The deployment has been expected to end in May, but has been extended with no current return date. Annabel Loma, the wife of a sailor serving on the Abraham Lincoln, told the publication her husband is now on medical hold after trying to jump from the carrier. He's scared. He thinks he'll get a dishonorable discharge, and just because he was burnt out, his 13-year career is ruined just like that. She said she's trying to put on a happy face for her children.

Maria Rodriguez and other sailors' wife says that her husband prevented another man from jumping overboard. Rodriguez told the military times her husband held the shipmate's arm and hauled them onto the deck with three other sailors eventually running to help. I suppose the question is this ongoing conflict with Iran. It's not going well. And we've talked about the overt intention seems to be the closure of the Strait of Hormuz to cut China off from their energy. But this has no end in sight. And just keeping this carrier out there with these dudes and extended deployment ain't going to work. No.

So what's the end result of this? Do we end up burning out what little we have? We're running out of precision missiles. Trump says, no, we've got ammo. It's fine. But doesn't seem like we're winning this. The question is why? We're not winning because the people or the IRGC isn't going to give in to just the kind of airstrikes they've been doing.

heard people talking about that after the F-15 got shot down, Trump got kind of cold feet because he doesn't want that kind of, he doesn't want to lose anybody, if he can avoid, he doesn't want to lose any, any servicemen, right? And so now they're not running the same kind of strikes. You haven't heard about sorties over Iran in ages and ages. You know, I think it's a couple months. They're doing, you know, cruise missiles if they do strikes or they're doing stuff like that, but you're not hearing about B-2s. You're not hearing about Raiders going over. You're hearing about any kind of significant strikes at all. And I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that Trump got cold feet after the F-15 pilot got shot down.

Yeah. There was, obviously, it was a great rescue mission and that they managed to get them out. And there were no casualties on the American side for that. And that was a really ballsy raid to do. But if Trump doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to put people in harm's way anymore because of the fact that I think like 15 or so people have passed, have died, just from Iran strikes, it's not going to be solved. They're not going to get the IRGC out of power by just lobbing a couple missiles at Iran.

Yeah, I mean, I think this is essentially unwinnable just because there's a huge asymmetry of pain tolerance, right? Like, the Iranians are able to, like, take a lot, right? And IRGC doesn't really care what happens to a lot of people and they're willing to just do whatever it takes to stay in power. And we've got like sailors jumping overboard. and that like the the pressure on Trump and like the accountability to the American people is just a completely different political context and in which the Iranians are operating. So it's kind of a lose-lose situation from that perspective.

Yeah. I mean, look, the U.S. has plenty of J-Dams, right? They've got plenty of dumb bombs. They can put guidance packages on them. But they're using long-range cruise missiles and that's what ostensibly are starting to, be depleted. And these are expensive weapons that, you know, take a lot of time to produce. They're not like you can just go ahead and start pumping them out. They just don't have the capacity to do that. And it's part of the reason why I say that we should be making the things that we need here in the United States. We shouldn't be outsourcing chips. We shouldn't be outsourcing anything to other countries. We should have the infrastructure in the United States to produce all of the stuff that we need, weapons that we need. And the things that are high tech, that that,

We have to outsource to other countries. We should move those industries here to the U.S. But if the government or if the administration doesn't have the nerve to continue the kind of sorties they did in the beginning, then it's going to be a stalemate. And I think Trump's just looking for a way out now. And I think the straight of Hormuz is probably the sticking point. Like he wants the straight open because Saudis are concerned about it and stuff. And Iran doesn't have any reason to deal. with the with the with the to make a deal with the US as long as the US isn't applying

significant pressure and by significant pressure I mean it sorties over Iran dropping bombs but look after the whole debacle with that girl school that the US allegedly struck I don't think that the administration has the the the desire to keep up the the sorties the kind of soorty tempo that would actually put pressure on the IRGC It resembles a siege. In fact, you might call it a siege, like a siege from the Middle Ages where you surround a city, cut them off from incoming water and food. So you starve the population.

They eventually surrender. Both parties of the siege suffer. The sieging army sits out there and gets dysentery and waits and waits and waits and gets sicker and sicker and wants to go home. And the people in the city starve slowly until one of them gives up. But in this instance, we're not cutting off their food and water. We have like a half-hearted siege in the water area of Iran. that's not a real siege.

It was it was poorly planned, hurriedly executed, initiated by the Israelis. And it's like, I think they'll look at it as the greatest American military blunder. No. It's pretty horrible. What was worse? Iraq. Yeah. We won in Iraq.

Iraq. We own Iraq now. It's a puppet state. Yeah, but it costs how many lives to do? How many trillions of dollars? Seven. How long? 11 years and 7 trillion.

but I mean this is an unwinnable we've cut off the head of a fervent beast it's no we killed the wife and father of the the leader of the country like this is okay so in the future you there could be considerable changes that would make this the greatest blunder but this right now as of right now it's just it's a bad policy blunder it's not nearly as damaging as Iraq was I don't even I think there's a victory cold. It's not nearly as damaging as Vietnam was. Vietnam is probably the, Vietnam or Iraq, too, are probably the worst blunders. I mean, as of right now, you know.

I hope it's Vietnam will be go down as the worst American blunder. I hope so. You know, this is like an unwinnable. I don't even know, it wasn't even started by our military. It's so bad that we're there. It's winnable. It's just they're not willing to do what you need to do to win a war like this. Right.

They're going to execute seven million. I think the Iranians posted out, hey, if the Americans decide to use nukes on, any city in Iran, every American military base will be. There's no need to use nuclear weapons. Right, but they were saying that. And then the next day, Trump's like, hey, Iran, the RIRGC has nothing. They're useless. They have no, they all bark, no bite.

I'm paraphrasing. So like you're getting two extremes from both governments. The propaganda is just vapid at this point. I don't believe either of them. It's, they don't have a military goal. I don't know what the goal of the campaign is to get them to surrender. And it's like closing the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah, but you would need to.

take their leadership out to accomplish that. No, they've had the straight form was closed for months. Yeah. So right now the estimate, just for, just for context, the estimate of deaths of Iranians range from 3,500 to 6,000. So yeah, that's bad. Obviously, that's bad.

But, you know, Iraq had, you know, up to half a million, a million people died because of the Iraq war. 54,000 Americans, I have no idea how many Vietnamese died. So this is bad, but like this is not, this doesn't approach Iraq or Vietnam. It doesn't even, it's not even in the ballpark. To be fair, we both look at both those wars in hindsight as well. They were 10-year campaigns. We just, this just started eight months ago.

Yeah. I mean, like one of the biggest criticisms that Republicans had of our handling of the Ukraine war, right, was that there's no clear plan for USA, there's no clear. plan for U.S. involvement to help bring an end to the war. And I feel like it's kind of a repeat of that here. It's like we launch this thing and there's like no clear end in sight. There's no clear understanding what the actual plan is. Like what is a winning scenario?

We don't know. And so like the very thing that our side was criticizing the Biden administration for is kind of the same trap we walked into. And then Trump's between a rock in a hard place, right? Because he like doesn't want to do what it would take to actually win a war like that. But also, he doesn't want to be known as the president that backed down from the Iranians in a war that he started, right? So I don't really know where he goes with this, especially with the midterms coming up, but it sure doesn't look pretty. No, because if a troop, if the soldiers are considering mutineing and diving off the aircraft carrier...

Which, by the way, is kind of insane. Like, we haven't really talked about that, but, like, jumping off an aircraft carrier? Into what to die? Yeah. Also, like, why... Like, I can understand being frustrated, like, all that kind of stuff, but why, like, why not just stay put? like why would you be jumping off an aircraft carrier? Maybe he had a psychotic break.

Like the troops in these positions have got to... Because they've been deployed for a year now. Yeah, but she's saying it's a 13-year career and like sitting on an aircraft carrier. That was the reason he jumped over. Like that seems... Maybe it's the psychology of what they've been doing to the Iranians, which is like, why are we even here? If they get an inkling that the Israelis started it and now they're stuck there, like that would be destructive for morale on the boat, I would imagine.

And they're going home in May and now it's July. Are they not rotating these guys at all? sounds like they're not and that seems to be the issue for a lot of these guys yeah they need to bring that is crazy as well I mean look and you know

the thing is there the US has I think 11 carrier strike groups the Abraham Lincoln doesn't have to stay there and definitely they can send another strike group out you know

so I'm not exactly sure why the Lincoln has stayed there for as long as it has but yeah if morale is getting that low it's time to you know relieve that carrier and get another carrier

the problem is if you relieve them, then that just shows the next round of troops that go over there. Hey, if we make a scene, they're going to relieve us too. And you can't let that happen in the military. I don't think that that is actually like. The Russians would shoot dudes that tried to turn around. To the front, you go. Like, there's no other way than forward.

Yeah, but I mean, that's going to the front versus being on an aircraft carrier are very different scenarios, right? If they're telling you go into the meat grinder in the trenches, that's different than you're going to be on a carrier where you're significant. significantly less likely to die, right? Like all the people that have been, all the Americans that have been killed, they've been killed on foreign bases. I don't think anyone's been killed actually shot down.

I don't think anyone died being shot down over Iran. There's a couple aircraft that have been shot down. But all the people that have died have died in drone strikes from Iran, if I understand correctly, they were on U.S. bases in the region. Nobody on a ship has died. The aircraft carriers are very well defended. it's not the same thing. Being on an aircraft carrier in the, you know, in the Gulf or whatever is not the same as going to the trenches in Ukraine.

It's true. It's not a desperate situation. Not the same. If they were to relieve these guys and then we sent out another round of dudes and then those guys after time go through the same thing and their deployment gets extended and then they do the same thing, you have a hard choice to make as a commander. Like you can't keep giving into your troops. I mean, I don't understand why there's not just like a clear rotation schedule where you tell them you're going to be here for something. six months and then the other guys come in. Like it just doesn't,

that doesn't seem like rocket science. I think the hardest part for these guys is probably like, there's no end in sight. We don't know when we're going to go home. So like just put it clear end line. And then when the next people come in, they know, okay, six months for now, we're going home again.

Yeah, I mean, there should be, you know, like I said, I mean, the U.S. has 11, I think, carrier strike groups. I'm not, I think it's 11. But, you know, the, the, it shouldn't be a situation where their deployments being extended. They should just send another carrier out there, send another strike group,

and bring the one that's there back, especially if morale is becoming a problem. Maybe it was an oversight. You know, probably not, but being benevolent, maybe the military command, it's an oversight, and they meant to bring these guys back,

and they probably not, but maybe. And I have immense amount of empathy for these dudes stuck out there, right? The U.S. has 11 nuclear-powered supercarries and acts of service. We got big breaking news from earlier today. defense in Charlie Kirk's killing say shooter should not get the death penalty. He hit the intended target.

This is absolutely fascinating because they released one of their filings today. Finally, we get to see what their defense is arguing. And they actually argued that he should not be eligible, Robinson should not be eligible for the death penalty. Because he intended to only kill Charlie Kirk and successfully did. He was unaware that they were minors present and there was no risk to anyone else. So Kennecoa the Great says, nowhere in it do his lawyers argue that Robinson is innocent, that there was another shooter, that Charlie wasn't shot, that the microphone exploded, that the rooftop guy wasn't involved, that the recovered 30 had six was never fired,

that the confession messages were fake. Instead, Robinson's own lawyers write that his message to his roommate and his partner indicate Mr. Robinson intention to kill Charlie Kirk. They quote him, saying he had the opportunity to take out Charlie, and he did. their primary ask is to strike the soul aggravating factor that Robinson knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than Charlie. Without it, the death penalty comes off the table. They are basically only fighting for one thing to prevent the death penalty.

And I think it's because the evidence is pretty dang solid. Now, I believe that there is a potential for conspiracy here. And it is because several individuals went online and seemed to have foreknowledge of the assassination. Several vehicles were seen in front of their house. These people have not been identified. There were Discord messages, I think. That was an issue or server messages from some chat. I've heard.

These things were never clarified. So I would just ask this simple question, citing the great Alex Jones, Key Bono, which means who benefits? Who benefits from the death of Charlie Kirk? Does the right, no. Does Israel? No. The establishment machine does, who is being accused of stealing the election in Wisconsin.

and they would benefit from Charlie's death. So if you want to believe in a conspiracy, my question is, why run with all of the whack-a-loon disproven nonsense, or at the very least, impossible to prove nonsense, instead of the deep state killed him? Yeah, it's very possible. Tyler Robinson was used or influenced by darker powers. Elaborate.

Like, people in the Discord chats may have been CIA operatives. I don't know. May have been. It may have been government. Or could just be the left. kill people, you know, and, and, and, and look, there was hubris and complacency. Now, I'm going to say, don't know for sure, but I certainly think it's interesting, the defense is basically saying, look, he did it, but he didn't do what you're accusing him of, so he should

not get the death penalty. Where are all the conspirators? Oh, I'm sorry, this proves it. This proves, well, hold on, hold on a minute. Candace was arguing that Robinson was a patsy, that he wasn't even there. Right? Well, his defense is saying he was. Why? Why not be like, nope, he wasn't there and we have proof. He's a patsy. Why don't they just play her show and be like, look at the evidence. Yeah, I think if you really care about what's going on, you turn down the social media influencers and turn up the courtroom scene and listen to the lawyers. I mean, that's where the evidence is.

So apparently, Phil, did you read about the type of third out six round that was used? I didn't. No, I think it was just a standard full metal jacket, right? It wasn't a soft point. don't think. No, I believe it was a specific round. Let me see if I can find the, I'll have to pull it up. In the, in the preliminary hearings, they made reference to the specific type of round that was used. I don't want to say too much, but we got more information on this. What I will say is that Chris Martinson responds, it's simply as close to impossible as one can imagine that the kill shot was a 30 out six from the Losey building roof. That's just physics. I have no idea why you're so intent on proving guilt before evidence, but I have my

suspicions. Canicoa says there is evidence, lots of it, stronger evidence that many successful murder than many successful murder convictions, you're ignoring it. Probably because you've been telling everyone it's impossible that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk with a 30 out six from the Lossi building roof because you made YouTube videos of yourself shooting pork shoulders. He then says, I'm just telling you the physics. If that's not your thing that's okay, not everybody had a proper education, also steel-framed buildings don't fall at free fall speeds for 2.25 seconds either, are just saying. And Kineko responds, it looks like you had the physics wrong, a bit of humility would help, try not declaring something impossible when you don't have all the data. Are you still

pushing the lie about Robinson's Discord confession? Can you at least admit you got that wrong? Were you able to find the type of bolt used? It says that it was the round of led to have been used to kill Charlie Kirk was a three out six Springfield caliber cartridge from a bolt action rifle. Investigators recovered a Mouser Model 98 rifle chambered for this high-powered ammunition, which contained one spent round and three unfired rounds engraved with messages. Audio forensics confirmed the use of a single supersonic bullet consistent with a high-power rifle rather than a handgun. I don't think you're reading the court stuff.

No, no, I'm just looking at what the AI produced. There was in the hearing where they showed the bullet, there was an argument that was made. I'm not going to get into what I don't know. Remington Corlock. That's what I thought it was. Okay. Soft point hunting ammunition. 150 grain jacket soft point load.

Typical big gang hunting ammunition designed to expand and mushroom impact for energy transfer to as opposed to full metal jacket. The recovered bullet fragment was deformed and damaged with 30-k-10-000. Let me just pull this up. I thought it was a core locked, but I wasn't entirely sure, so I don't want to just say things unless we pulled it up. Yeah. But let me see if we can pull this up specifically. I think they actually, do they have it here? The Mouser model.

I don't know if this is the right source No I think this is the wrong link Wait oh okay Phoenix ammunition posted Oh okay The Pose on X The bullet shown in court today Was a Remington Corelocked soft point round

Specifically designed to deform Slowdown and prevent an exit wound Yeah Phoenix ammunition makes bullets Wow Yeah So again This came out in the

So the thing is every time this stuff comes out, the Kirk Spiracy people just move on and ignore it. Like they never brought it up. So just real quick, Chris Martin said being like, a 30 out six can't go through or it's going to over penetrate. Then you find out in court, it was a Corlock soft point, Ramington designed not to have an exit wound.

And you're like, okay. Yeah, Chris, I think he's a good faith actor that has had bad information. because I've seen him do extremely articulate down to the number with COVID. He was super, super right on with COVID and very vocal about it. So it's very possible that he's just working with bad info. I mean, personally, I know him. He's been on the show, but. This has been the Phoenix Ammunition says this has been the most easily debunked claim of their entire web of lies.

And it's really mind-blowing considering that it's exactly what you would choose for an assassination. But yeah, definitely keep getting all your information from the DEI hire and the Portland Pizza Boy. I'm sure they know more about this than I do. We've hit Phoenix on the show several times. He's actually gifted us bullets. The Phoenix ammunition. So he made, what he gifted us were these subsonic competition 9mm rounds. So they're slow.

Bro. I, listen, I do what I do. I've always done what I've done. Because I can't stand when people lie. That's it. from the Covington kids back in the day, before IRL existed, I was like, y'all are lying, and even conservists, to Chauvin, to the McMicha's in the Ahmed Arbery case, are you lying? And these conspiracy people with these big channels have been lying the whole time.

But you know what? The conspiracy people, the rank and file, the believers cannot live in a world without three. fear of a machine. And when when the machine was largely defeated by Trump, they've given you the new one. And they lied to you the whole time. So I was in, one of one of, one of our security guys that we hired was a former steel team sniper. And he literally said to me, he's like, it's like a week after it happened. He's like, the moment I saw that video, I was like, that's a 30 out six. And I was like, really? And this is before the conspiracy theories. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, man, I wish my wife was filming me when I said it.

Because I, you know, I could have been like, boom, I know what this is. Then within like two weeks, they were like, there's no way to 30 out six. Exploding microphone or some other nonsense. Now Robinson, who has been described as a patsy by Candace Owens, his defense team is saying, no, he did it. Just don't give him the death penalty. Why doesn't he just come out and be like, no, he's a patsy and we can prove it. Candace has the evidence.

I don't know how they're going to reconcile this. They're just going to make things up again. You know, I'll say this. Not that I need to tell Andrew Wilson this, but he's going to do this debate with Candace Owens. She's just going to make stuff up. That's it. You can't win a debate with someone who's intent on lying the whole time.

Because when you can make things up, the other person cannot fact check because it is fabricated and you can't prepare for a fabricated statement, the only outcome is going to be, the person who makes it up is going to be like, you are unprepared if you can't talk about die sion and demon goggles. Oh, speaking of, I have those right here. Indeed.

So Andrew's going to need to know exactly what happened in order to confront people that throw lies. Because if you know the truth, lies don't affect you. That's incorrect. They just don't change you. Nope, you're incorrect, Ian. What do you mean? Why?

You don't know the basic rules of debate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it to me, Tim. They call it arc 73. You're not familiar? No. You, you, you made something up. You literally think,

caught me on my back feet. That's my point. What are you supposed to say to something I just randomly make up that's not possible to fact check? Right, I could only say that's not true. And I can't say, it's hard. And my response to that is, everybody watching knows it's true

and you look like a moron right now. And you're going to need like real time fact checking. No, you can't. It's impossible. Because watch, tell me you want, you fact check and I'll be like, well, unfortunately for you guys, my source is in the government.

And if you think I'm going to name my source, and get to put in prison, you're insane. But I'm telling you, it's a fact. And if you're not, there's no way you win against someone who's intent on making things up. So in the scenario where the debate's happening, like, what's the strategy you should take then? Like, at the top, just be like,

this is the playbook and I'm going to call it out every time I see it and just like in real time call out every single time. So the first thing I would say is the intention of online blood sports is not to prove a point. It's to build brand value. So, for instance, we've had, we, we, we don't do bloodsports on this show. The few times we had liberals on and it went like got nuts and we're yelling at each other, they become viral clips.

They get millions of views and we know it. We don't intentionally chase after that. If we have on, you know, so it's funny because the other day, a clip of me, there's a clip of me and Brian Shapiro yelling at each other and I called him a retard. And someone put a Joe Rogan in the front where Joe goes, no way, he called him what? and then it cuts to this show of me and Brian debating, which Joe never reacted to its fake. When we do these things, it's a rallying cry for the people. Let me put it like this. In all things political, blood sports, not debate, street violence, the intention is to strike at a symbol which a group of people believes oppresses them.

So what you typically get with online blood sports is not a functional debate because debate is boring. debate would be, I wait for Ian to finish his point, and then I say, I have a rebuttal to point. The first point that you made, I'd like to respond to your second point. Mr. Poole, you have 30 seconds. Exactly. Boring, nobody wants to watch it. Bloodsports is, how can I make a layman who's watching feel vindicated? So you'll notice a lot of these things in blood sports laughing for no reason.

Because laughter, it's like a laugh track, right? So when Ian says something like, I don't, I've never heard of this way you're talking about, And instead of responding, I bust out laughing. Ridicule. That's a tag. Exactly. It's, wow, you are so unprepared for this. Insult, ad hominem, all of these things that don't fly in debate.

So you've got to understand that going into a conversation, Andrew and Candice, the actual goal here is not the facts. It's going to be, and Andrew's really good at this. Can he present it in such a way that the layman, passively observing, feels he has the upper hand? and Andrew is good at this. However, Candice is either an excellent liar or a true believer. I don't think she's a true believer. I think she's an excellent liar.

In which case, she will be able to say things quickly and with high wit because she has it, where Andrew is going to be between a rock and a hard place. So quite literally, if in a blood sports, I said to Ian, tell me about fragmentation of dysionine. Oh, nice. You pronounce that word exactly right. Sianan. You don't know this? You thought you were going to come into a debate without even Google search? I wonder if they'll interrupt each other too.

Yeah, I wonder if we're all fake. Well, they have a moderator, PBD, but moderators don't work on blood sports. It's just fake. So we've talked about this quite a bit too because we do the culture war stuff, right? Moderation is not real. You know what a moderator can do? Mute the microphone. But when you say, please, please, I'll say, but they'll just keep going.

It's just not real. So I think everyone should expect it. I think they're doing it, what, Friday? Oh, good. I heard PBD is going to be moderating it or whatever. It raised $300,000. Is that what it is? Andrew Wilson raised $300,000. Well, no, he paid it up front and now he's trying to raise that money back.

So I will give a shout to Andrew Wilson, because I think this is important for him to strike at this to the best of his ability. And he's got to give send go up where he's trying to basically make that. Apparently he fronted the money of his own personal money. What was their money? money involved? Because Candice kept refusing. He was like 30,000, 50.

To her? Yeah, and she kept saying no. And finally he said 300 and he said yes. Wow. That's wild. Everyone on Rogan's show and Yeah, yeah. And apparently Rogan offered to moderate, but Candice said no.

Oh, that would have been awesome. I don't know how much I believe it. She posted a one-sided shot, a screenshot of her saying, like insulting Andrew and then saying she won't do it. but if if you know if i have a debate with someone i'm it's it's it's not going to be blood sports and we also don't invite people on here for the purpose of screaming at each other when we had brian jpere on here last time and people don't like what he has to say and they because he's a he's a he's got trumped arrangement syndrome uh i argued with him and i mostly just laughed and tried to make it you know silly and uh then phil and him were insulting each other

and we're like i i'm not interested in playing this fake thing. I'll give you another example, right? Like when Lauren Southern and Kyla Turner tried making a fake beef. I'm not playing that game. Not interested guys. Kyle, we had dinner in Vegas for two hours. We all hung out. We were laughing. Everyone was friends. Then she tweets that when Lauren tried to confront me, I ran. And I'm like, okay, don't talk to me ever again. I'm not, I'm not doing this. I'm just, I'm a 40-year-old man. I just had a kid. I'm thinking of my family. I'm not a child who wants to do whatever this blood support When I was young and ambitious and willing to throw my integrity to the side to become famous and rich, I would say anything to get clicks.

And like I'd rather, if we're in a debate about an idea, if I'm wrong, I'd rather find that out. Even if it looks like I'm an idiot, you're right. I'd rather that that gets shown to the people that you're right. It's not good for my brand. Maybe it is in the long run, but it's not good for my pocketbook in the immediate. I want you to subscribe to my channel. The one thing I will say too is there's a, I'm not going to start a beef by naming a handful of people, but there are some liberal. What they do is they will set up fake debates and it'll be a one-sided thing.

Their camera will be on them. They'll do a phone call or a Zoom with someone you can't see. And then they'll have a debate with this person for the intention of actually generating clips for both the left and the right. So again, not naming who these people are. But the idea is this. You get a friend and actor. You plan out your talking points.

That way you get an own and they get an own. The point is, however, you want the right wing. to spam blast the video of your face as the other guy in the phone is telling you why you're wrong and it sounds good. Then the right goes, we want to get this guy on our show and it builds your profile on the right. Then the videos you post are you arguing with the MAGA guy and the MAGA guy can't answer the question and then you laugh. But you never see who the guy is. Why? Because it's fake. It's online blood sports for the purpose of generating clips. I had a question in this segment about the death penalty. Do you guys think this guy should, if he did it, which it seems like he did, should he get the death penalty?

Yes. Yeah. For a handful of reasons, but I think the aggravating factors, such as there's a crowd of people, there's students, there's kids. Like, it is a fact that he created a tremendous risk to everybody. The argument that because he only shot Charlie, he didn't create a risk to anybody else, is wrong because the risk to everybody else was the aftermath. Potential stampedes, panic, running. Anyone could have a lot of gun and start shooting in defense and hit somebody else. And initially they thought a guy in the crowd jumped up and shot Charlie.

So what if someone pulled a gun and said, a guy screamed he did it? What if someone pulled out a gun and started shooting and hit bystand? So yes. And also political assassinations of this nature, we have to be as a criminal responsible. And I'm going to stress this too. I'm against the death penalty in general. Same. For the reason of a system that has an institutionalized mechanism of execution kills an innocent.

people. As for the argument to the system we live in, what I'm saying is he qualifies for the death penalty under the current laws that we have. That being said as well, I get people going, Tim, shouldn't you argue against it if you oppose a death penalty? No, my point is I don't go out and protest in the street waving flags. I don't care that much. I'm just saying I lean towards, it's probably bad that Kamala Harris got to decide who lives and dies, you know, and there are people like that. However, it's not something I feel so strongly about that I'm going to protest or call for moratoriums or anything like that. But the life of David Gale is a great movie and it's a shame that Kevin Space is a weirdo. It is. You guys seen that movie? No. You got to see that movie. Why? The life of

David Gale. Wait, don't spoil anything, but it's good. And like apparently I got like bad ratings, like bad reviews. It's one of my favorite movies. Is David Gale a real guy? No, it's, uh, uh, uh, just watch it. I agree with you. I think that the death penalty is warranted. if this is real because if you don't execute the perpetrator, you will see more, like, it's like a green, a yellow light instead of a red light. Like you want to flash the red light here. People stop. Don't do this again. This is why. You don't have to put on the red light. You don't have to. You don't have to sell your body in the night.

No, you don't have to. Roxanne. Roxanne. I bit. I bit hard. I've been singing a lot of foreigner lately. I love foreigner, bro. I love foreigner. I'm going to sing right now, bro. Dude, foreigners is amazing. It's good. Waiting for a girl like you? Oh, I had games. Oh, God. Cold is ice.

Urgent. Yeah, double vision. Double vision. That's the jam. Cold as ice is the one. Your is called jukebox hero too. I know. Man, wow, foreigner's so good.

The very best. Let's just I'll take a moment to talk about how great foreigner is a band is. That's my Instagram algorithm is rock bands from the seven. She's a foreigner? Let's, uh, let's, let's, speaking of Instagram algorithms, do you remember when the Elsaid guy was like, oh, man, like every other picture on my algorithm is like a woman in a bikini or something like that. Like, this is so bad. And everyone's like, you know you, you like curate your own algorithm. But they're wrong. They're all wrong. Because what he said was, whenever you spend too much time.

Because what he said was, I have three staffers who handle my, my Instagram for me. And, you know, like when I go through it, every third thing is like some only fans model. The algorithm is awful. He was literally making the point that his staffers are looking at this. Yeah. And but people were blaming him for it. And then additionally, the meta algorithm is, it is believed. And maybe, I don't of the fine tunings of their algorithm, about 20% of the content is randomly selected because they're trying to experiment on what you would want to watch more of. So if somebody just watches videos of like, you know, they watch old Colombo clips on Instagram and they watch them for about a minute, even though they're three minute long

videos, Instagram's going to go, is there something he will watch for longer than a minute? So they start randomly throwing in weird things to see if you will. And sure enough, they eventually stick something. Then you'll get a guy being like, why is every, like you'll see a picture of some woman the bikini, and you'll stop to like, what is this? Like, why is it my feed? Boom, they got you. They're going to show you more of it.

Now everything you're getting. For me, it's ping pong videos. Oh. And I hate ping pong. And I don't watch them. Is it like robots playing? They did finally stop. No.

Did you tell them they're not interested? They did stop, though. They did. There was a period where every other video was table tennis. And I don't watch it. I don't know anything about it. I don't know the terms for it. I don't know what the, the paddle.

I don't even know the word for the thing they hit the thing with. And it just spams me this. stuff. The ball. Yeah. I made me so angry. I wonder if it's because you're a skateboarder and they just targeted athletes to get you ping pong? It's like no, it's because they're experimenting with their stupid BS. And it's no longer is it about what you clicked like on. Now it's about how long it stays on your, they know how long it stays on your. I started getting a bunch of Sopranos clips. Yeah, yeah. I started getting a bunch of Sopranos clips. I do too. I got the office. My Instagram is all parenting. My, or by the band's Instagram, all the remains Instagram pages is all parenting stuff.

They've been sending me a lot of dead baby stuff. Dead baby stuff? Yeah. What kind of dead baby stuff? So there are videos that start off, like a good family video, and you'll see like a little kid picking up a block and then putting, you know, the block in the square hole and the parent going like, yay. So you'll watch.

You're like, oh, this is cute. And then all of a sudden, it shows a picture, like it'll flash to like a picture of the kid. And then the voice goes, and that was the last time I saw my child before they were killed. They're dead. And then the next three minutes or two minutes is. them being like, my child is dead and every day I'm in pain. And I'm like, ah! And then I'm like, stop showing me this. That's horrific. Yep. If that's true, that's deep state. They're out to get you. That what is that? What is that? It's because if people watch it. Oh, because one day you left it

on for too long to see like what is this garbage? No, because like I said, the first minute is a little kid doing something normal like riding on a skateboard. And then the next two minutes is the parent explaining how their child is dead and how they're suffering. That's how you hack the algorithm. I hope the developers at Instagram are listening. Yes, there's many tricks. and including loop videos. I block any channel that's a loop video. You know the loop videos?

It'll start with like, this is the craziest cheeseburger you'll ever see. Then they'll explain it. And then they'll be like, and with two pounds of beef, that's why this. That's how it is.

Like it just stops? That's why. No, because it loops. Because the first line is, this is craziest. It tricks people into watching it over and over again. Oh.

They should ban those videos. That should be a violation of the rules on Instagram because it pisses people off to be tricked into watching the video longer than normal, and it's gaming the algorithm to get more views and more traction, and Instagram lets it happen. We got to go to your Rumble Rans and see a chance to smash the like button. Share the show with everyone in your life, including your grandfather, your cousins. Your dog. Your dog.

Look at it. El Hefe Lopez says, I'm just going to call that F Democrats. We get the point. Ian, as usual, opening his retarded mouth, the president. prove he is retarded. Thank you so much. Rude. I'm here to slow things down. It's not untrue.

Riu Bikura says, people like Kathy aren't afraid of police. They play this game because rich white liberals crave victim status. It's why you have white liberals feeling they need to walk around with a passport because of ICE. The prison of hoity-to-oity well.

Yep. Misa Mori says a drone with C-4 can't occupy Street Corner. Correct. And I did say that right afterwards. That's why you need people. human beings. To be fair, an optimist bot can occupy a street corner. It's true. That's changing the face of warfare. Metho says Ian out here forgetting about dreadnoughts. Praise the God, Emperor, and the Omnisiah. Oh, got some warhammer up in this. We're talking. Thinker for our lives says SPLC and Montgomery, Alabama,

has a jury trial on October 5th. This is the case regarding spending money on the field agents marching with torches they hired, which Sleepy Joe said he ran for Prez. Yep. Correct. Stormbaugh says, I visited Moscow in 93 and walked by Lenin's corpse in the red square. Lennon wanted to ask Ian, what are you, what are you when you are when you aren't? Well, other than me.

What are you when you are when you aren't? Hmm. Katath-Swiss has Hong got 20-20ed. When you are, you're alive, when you aren't you're dead. Yep. Is that a question that Lenin asked people or something? No. It was... Forced name changes. I disagree on payday loans.

I use them to buy things I can't finance. I do not use them because I'm desperate. I use them because it's convenient. If you're desperate, they will... I don't know what that emoji is. Something you. My way works out okay. No, it makes sense. It's better than financing.

You're sort of financing, but then when the check just comes in, it just hits them and then, you know, you pay a little bit extra to be able to buy something, you know? Shlipi says, you guys excited for tomorrow. NFA is based. dead outside of destructive devices and machine guns. There are caveats with this so incredibly based.

Did you guys, did you see that, was it the GOA, said that they're going to start selling suppressors without going through the NFA? They're selling them to two members of Congress in the district. Look, there's... In D.C.? No, no, in the...

Oh, I was going to be alive. In the district of Texas that it was, that this was found. Look, there's a lot of stuff that still needs to get worked out. it is very unadvisable to just build your own can tomorrow or go and buy an oil, an oil filter and drill a 22 hole in it. That is not a good idea at all. If this is going to stick, the ATF is going to have to work out a bunch of stuff. So hopefully it does stick.

I mean, it's only a couple hours now. It doesn't look like the DOJ is going to try to appeal. It looks like this is actually going to happen, but, you know, Congress sent a letter to the Department of Justice saying, look, this was the intent when we took the tax away. Do not appeal. Really? Yeah, a bunch of Congress people. Riley was one of them. Signed a letter.

Riley's based. Riley's awesome. Signed a letter. They sent it to the Department of Justice, clarifying that when they took the tax out of the big, beautiful bill, the intent was to get rid of, to take silent or. SBRs, SBSs, and any other weapons off the NFA. That was the point of it. So because without the whole, for the people that don't know, the NFA, you have to pay a tax. The argument has always been that this isn't about registering.

This is about making sure that the tax is paid. So you have to have the stamp to prove that you pay the tax. This isn't about registration. And when you take the taxing power away, there's no constitutional authority for Congress to do this. So there was no, the case in question, there was no two Second Amendment finding. It was all about the taxing power. The point of getting rid of the tax was to take those things off the NFA. The DOJ has not filed an appeal.

Tonight at midnight is when this is supposed to take effect. But that doesn't mean that all of the kinks have been worked out. You're not going to be able to go into a shop tomorrow and be like, I'm buying a suppressor. Brendan Herrera and I forget who else they're actually doing the sale they talk to lawyers they're doing it because they're in Congress they've got

some insulate well Brian's going Brendan's going to be in Congress they've got some insulation here so so that's technically correct because he won the primary and he's in a he's in our district so it's like he's the guy but yeah and then this is the thing

it's going to be very difficult if not impossible to go after them for this and then once they do, it's going to set a sort of precedent. Yep. And look, it does look like the DOJ is going to say, you know, we're not going to appeal. That means the ATF is going to have to write new rules, right? There's all kinds of stuff. They're going to get rid of form ones, form fours. You're probably going to end up having to do a 4473, which is the same piece of paper that you have to fill out when you actually buy any other firearm. There's going to be, there's going to be a lot of questions. Hopefully the ATF will will come

when you wake up tomorrow or sometime during the day tomorrow, the ATF is going to say, okay, in light of the fact that the DOJ has not appealed this, the ruling of the court stands, here is what the future looks like for these NFA items. I am going to have suppressors on every single gun. It's a great idea, to be honest with you. A suppressor necklace. You can own a suppressor before this.

What about four grip? Six. Can't put them on. So what will happen is any short barrel rifle will be taken off the NFA. so it'll be treated just like any other rifle. No way. That's what the preys is. The press is great, but SBRs, let's go.

I mean, like, so that means all the worrying about, you know, do you, the length of it, do you have a forward grip, or do you have an angled grip, or what have you? All that stuff goes away. Rifles will be treated the same across the board. So it'll be a situation of you want to buy a rifle. It doesn't matter if it's a 10.5 inch, 11.5. What about a sawed off?

Sought off would be perfectly fine. because short barrel shot comes will be off. So again, this is, you don't want to rush out. You want to let the ATF actually give some guidance. They have to change the rules and they have to clarify what's going to happen. But it does look like, you know, we've got two hours left until midnight here. It's three hours left until midnight in the specific district where this happened in the jurisdiction where this actual, it was in Texas. So it's central time.

don't rush out. You don't want to break the law and end up screwing yourself. But it does. Yeah, but they're going to drag their feet on rules. You know that, right? I don't know because the ATF director right now is really, really good. And this is the craziest sentence that's ever come out of my mouth. Maybe we, and, you know, I feel like they're going to be on it.

But maybe we can make some phone calls and be like, guys, can you get this moving forward? Because I want to get some SBRs. Yeah. Part of the thing that people are saying was an issue before is Pam Bondi was not actually good on these issues. The new AG is pretty good on this stuff. There's there's rumors that there's been some some arguing in the DOJ, the old guard versus the new guys. The new AG is pretty pro 2A and by pretty pro 2A it looks like he's going to say look Congress decided. You know what I'm really excited to do is to you know put some stocks on my pistols. Yeah. You know what I'm excited about

is if this goes away I don't have to worry about driving home with an. SBR and worry about like driving through, you know, New York or driving through Jersey or whatever. It's just a rifle. If it's locked up, I'm fine. No worries. Right now, if you take an SBR to a different state, you actually have to send paperwork to the ATF. They have to send back an approval because your SBR, SBSs, any other weapons, those are limited to the state that you're in. If you, like, silencers for some reason, you can take them over state lines, but rifles and short-bail shotgun.

You can take what over state lines? Silencers. What? A can? A silencer? Suppressor? Oh, a suppressor. Okay.

Oh, yeah, there's just some liberal term that's not relevant. We're going to go to, so we're, just as quickly say, I asked Chachy Pachy to make me a picture of an SBR and it said it's not allowed because it violates their guard rules. Yeah. We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash timcast. IRL. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

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