Timcast IRL - Democrats COLLUDED With Epstein To HURT Trump, Emails BACKFIRE w/ Andy Schoonover

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Tim, Phil, Shane, & Tate are joined by Andy Schoonover to discuss Democrats caught colluding with Epstein to hurt trump in new allegations, Trump shooter Matthew Crooks allegedly trans, Trump promising $2K checks funded by tariffs, and Staten Island calling for seceding from NYC over Zohran Mamdani's win.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Shane @ShaneCashman (everywhere) |  @TalesfromtheInvertedWorld   Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Serge  @sergedotcom   (everywhere) Guest: Andy Schoonover @andyjschoonover (X)

On Friday, the Washington Post dropped a bombshell report, alleging that House Democrats were texting with Jeffrey Epstein during hearings in 2019. Now, this is a big deal, and we're going to get into that. Actually, Tim Poole is going to be talking about that on Jesse Waters Show today. So when Tim goes on live with Jesse, we're going to jump to that. But right now, we're going to go ahead and get right to the introduction. So tonight joining us, we've got Andy Schooner. Hey, how are you? How are you having me?

Can you introduce yourself? Yeah, Andy Schoonover, CEO of Crowd Health. We're trying to take down health insurance because health insurance sucks. It's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty rough. Well, thank you for joining us. Yeah, thank you for having me. Tate is here.

What is going on, everyone? This is Tate Brown. You're holding it down. I agree. Healthcare does suck. I'm glad you're here. What's on, Shane? What's up?

Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live. I will be going live tonight on Rumble on YouTube at Inverted World Live. We're going to talk about the tech vampire overlords with the Twitter user 7C's, who's mapped out a pretty wild story. So we'll see you there. Awesome. So we're going to get right into it. So from the New York Post,

House Democrats exchanged text with Epstein on how to hurt Trump during 2019 congressional hearings, documents allege. Jeffrey Epstein was feeding questions to rep Stacey Plaskett during a 2019 congressional hearing and giving her real-time help on how to damage President Trump's reputation,

newly released documents show. The text first reported by the Washington Post show the convicted pedophile pontificating with Plaskett during a February 27th, 2019, House Oversight Committee hearing in which the then-former president's ex-attorney Michael Cohen testified about Trump's alleged payments to mistress to silence stories before the 2016 election. Trump has vehemently denied all allegations. In the text, Epstein appeared to be watching on television while Cohen brought up former Trump executive assistant Rhonda Graf in his testimony.

Let's see. Cohen brought up Rona, Keeper of Secrets, Epstein texted, mispelling Graf's first name. Rona responded Plaskett, a non-voting delegate representing the U.S. Virgin Islands. Quick, I'm up next. Is that an acronym she had, suggesting she'd grill Cohen soon? That's his assistant, Epstein replied. So if this is, I mean, obviously there's, there's evidence to show this. You know, I'm wondering, like, do you guys feel like this is actually going to be a big issue that's going to move? the needle on the whole Epstein situation, or do you think that this is just going to be some kind of flash in the pan? It's red meat.

It's red meat for the Democrats. I mean, it's like this idea that there's some smoking gun with the Epstein thing still out there and now's the time for it to drop. It's like, what are we doing? Also, Plaskett, like, non-voting member from the version on. It's like, why are these people allowed in? Like, she's just hanging out. Like, that's her job is just to hang out with congressmen all day.

No, it's totally ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, look, if they had dirt on Trump on the Epstein thing, the fact that they would, like, wait till what a month or a few weeks after an election to drop it. I mean, it's completely ridiculous. Shane, what does this do to the allegations that Trump and Epstein were actually friends and that Trump was doing terrible things on the island? Because that's the narrative that the Democrats have been trying to spin

ever since Donald Trump took office again for a second term. They didn't pay attention at all to any of the Epstein allegations for the entire four years that President Biden was in office. But as soon as Trump gets back into office, The Democrats seem to think that this is one of the most important things going. What's your take on it? I think whatever you think is the deal with Epstein now, nothing's going to change it, no matter what people see. Even if things come out that look real.

I mean, we're in post-reality. So everything can be fabricated if you want it to be fabricated or it really is fabricated. So it really doesn't move the needle on anyone, unfortunately. One way or the other, I think there's a lot of other things with the Epstein story that people should be talking about. I still want a lot of accountability for people like Bill Barr, his situation with that. You know, still want to know why he got a sweetheart deal, why Epstein got a sweetheart deal in prison, all these things, his intelligent asset with Israel and with the CIA. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's out there right now. You could look up with a, you know, him being an asset.

Not people think he's Mossad. I really don't think he was. I think Mossad probably went to him for a lot of help. And he was basically like a freelancer working with lots of different people around the world. And there's emails that say that. But again, you can look at those emails and say, oh, I don't believe those emails. But we do know through photographs that the former Prime Minister Ehud Barak of Israel was hanging out there and they had an asset living with him in Manhattan. And the emails, if you want to believe them, show them going to Epstein for help for things like overthrowing Assad.

There's also things of him helping Israel looking into like what to do with Mongolia. So there's a lot of other stuff here that I think we should be talking about. Why was he so deeply entrenched with intelligence agencies around the world? Not just here, not just Israel. Also in Europe. Same thing as his father. or Galane Maxwell's father was doing, you know, before he passed away oddly. So those are the things I really want to talk about that no one seems to be talking about

enough and the government doesn't seem too interested in, probably because they know how deeply entrenched he was. It's crazy. Epstein did all that for seven grand. Yeah. Well, each time. Yeah, it's a lot of seven grand. Each individual time. Now, that is a great point.

Do you guys think that the reason why people are paying attention to Donald Trump and Epstein or the goings on that were alleged to have happened at the. island between powerful people. Do you think they're paying attention to that because that's the most salacious stuff and the actual substantive stuff like his involvement? I didn't have, until you mentioned it, I didn't know that anyone had ever inquired about Mongolia with Epstein. Do you think that the reason is because it's salacious and it gets eyes? Or do you think that it's because, or do you think that that's why they don't go after the other topics because they just don't have the same kind of probably both. I think it depends on who you are. I think there's people who,

want to uncover and get accountability for minors that were abused by this evil network that seems to be entrenched all around the world. And we know that. I mean, there's a ton of people, and not just Epstein. This is a thing that happens. You know, I went around in Ohio with Alex Rosen catching just these disgusting pedophiles who are in your neighborhoods. But they exist in every level in every institution, unfortunately. Churches, schools, you name it. Well, I mean, it's my sense that the pedophiles go to where the access. So the reason that you hear about the church is because people trust priests. Right. People trust their children with priests, you know, because, oh, a priest wouldn't do this.

Or you hear about schools because people have to send their kids to school. And so, you know, schools are supposed to be safe places. There was, there's also a lot of people that talk about, you know, summer camps and camp counselors and stuff. And that's because predators will go to where the access is as opposed to there's something you, you know, about whether it be churches or schools or camps. It's not that these places attract, it's not that these places produce predators, it's that predators go to these places

because that's where access. And that's maybe why he was involved in all this, what I believe was blackmail situations, you know, and then even that's a narrative that's been being picked apart lately. But okay, if you wanna go down the route of hurting children, these weird, like, transhumanist things that Epstein was doing,

like why didn't we uncover more of Zoro Ranch? He had a whole situation out in Arizona, New Mexico. Why wasn't that rated? You know, what was going on in the Manhattan apartment? You know, there's so many different stories about that. At first, it was reported that there was video that was taken. And then it was all of a sudden there wasn't video. Cash just said there wasn't.

Or he went through it and none of it was bad. But then we hear other things. So it's just constant back and forth. And when it comes to the political things that he was doing that really involved what we can call the deep state, I think it's a harder thing for people to digest. even though we're talking about like this rampant pedophilia network we've been talking about that part of the story for like 10 years now when it comes to what he was doing with like Assad possibly and Israel or hanging out with Ahud Barak and all his you know he obviously had friends within this government and in Harvard and in weird science things you know harvey Weinstein one of the Eric Weinstein at Harvard talking about or MIT you know why do he have access to a lot of weird science situations learning about these these weird, I think anti-gravity stuff. But it's a much harder thing, I think, to understand that a lot of different intelligence

agencies are going to a person and to our network to try to pull the strings around the world. You know, because it sounds crazy to some people. But we unfortunately, in our own history in America, we have a long history of that very thing, whether it's Operation Northwoods, Gladiow, NATO, possibly being behind the scenes of the years of lead, which was a lot of political false flag violence in Italy. This is just a long history. We still don't really know who killed JFK. Yeah.

You know, we, we, there's a guy in Sirhan, Sirhan, they say killed RFK. But RFK Jr. doesn't even believe Sirhan, Sirhan, was that assassin. So we had this long history of these weird things that are happening, that have happened. And I think a lot of people, it's hard for them to digest that that is the reality. The reality is unfortunate that our government has been weaponized against us. And they do use these bad actors. Oh, and beyond, I think like the Epstein stuff, people are just blackpelled on it. because the only time it ever actually makes headlines

is when one party is using it to weaponize against the other. Like American politics in 2025 is just each party posting a picture with the other party's leader with Epstein. It just goes back and forth, just like different leaders. So it's like, people are just blackmailed on it. People are fatigued from the news cycle. I mean, this has been in the zeitgeist now for like eight, nine years. People like this is, I mean, it's the same thing that happened to the shutdown.

It's like such a magnitude, but I don't know. There's so much churn in the news cycle. there's so much insanity happening that people just get fatigued really quickly and they lose interest. I mean, that's just kind of the unfortunate reality. Like you're saying with the Epstein stuff, I mean, just a bit of probing. We could really uncover some pretty dramatic things that would upturn our society. But yeah, like the only time it ever makes the headlines is just when a party is using it, primarily these days, using it against Trump.

I mean. Like, again, totally, why don't we know about Epstein's final phone call he made in prison? He said he was making it to his mother, right? and we found out he was actually calling his girlfriend at the time. Like, what's up with that? And he lied about that. Why did the officer let that happen unsupervised? A lot of weird things.

You know, obviously, we all know about the cameras and all that. If it was a phone call from the prison, don't they record all those? I don't know why we haven't, why don't we have any access to that or any information about it? It's a very, on the night he died. I'm putting that in quotes for anyone who's listening because I think he's alive. Did he send record a whole album through a, like, pay phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.

the good old days. Andy, do you have a particular feeling one way or the other as to whether or not this is this particular issue about the texting? Do you think that it's just more red meat for the base like Tate was saying? Or do you think that there's something that's going to actually come of it? I feel like it's diversion. It's a diversion from what people really want, which is show me the damn list. Like, let's put the list out there. Why are we not seeing the list?

It's very strange to me that Trump just what a week ago. was like, no list, no big deal. And now he's like, show the list. It's a Democrat thing. You know, Marjorie Taylor Green, I think, is now being primaried with Trump support because of her, you know, moaning and groaning about the list on X. And so it's not just party against other party. It's party within party now.

And so that's a very strange thing has happened over the last week that I don't think really anybody has a good understanding of why did Trump flip all of a sudden and release the list. I think because he's very, very strange. He likes to market test, and he sees that there was an upswell of being like, all right, we actually do want the list. I actually don't believe. He's reading the base a little bit. Yeah, I think so.

I hope so. I don't believe the list. I don't believe there is a list anymore. Like, I think there's nothing they could release. It's going to change anyone's lines. To that point, there was, what was it, a couple months ago, they had some of the alleged victims saying that, oh, well, we're going to make our own list. That made, that made news for a couple days. And nothing's come of that either.

And it makes me wonder, is this just a situation where people use this, the, you know, The threat of a list is it just a means to get attention for themselves or to leverage people because no one really knows what is on the list if the list exists because maybe the list doesn't actually, like a secretive list doesn't actually exist. There's like 30 lists now. Now people are like feeling FOMO if they're not on the list. They're like, what am I doing wrong? Well, even Elon was on the list for a while, but it was a string of text or something that was like, is Elon still coming or something like that? David Blaine was on the list. Like that, he was hanging out with Epstein at one point.

If you're a somebody, you're on that list. Yeah. You have aura. You're on the list. I think, personally, I think that there's a lot of people that don't want to see any kind of list come out because their name is on it. And that doesn't indicate wrongdoing. That just indicates that they knew Jeffrey Epstein on some level. Like if Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein was a notorious networker, right?

Like he was doing everything he could to be in some way ingratiated with any person that was powerful. I mean, Stephen Hawking, obviously, was on the list. Science. If we just got Epstein a LinkedIn account, we could have saved all this trouble. He could have just taken out his networking through there. Just advertises his account. But I mean, to the point, though, I think that the fact that lists exist or if there are lists that exist, I think that a lot of people are just like, I don't want that to come out because I don't want my name associated with Epstein.

I don't care. Well, fair enough. and I'm not talking about anyone around this table because I don't imagine that there's anybody here that actually knew Jeffrey Epstein. The point that I'm making is... The point that I'm making is, you know, if you're, if you've had any kind of dealing with Epstein and a list comes out in your names on it, the people like, to your point earlier, the people that believe that he has done that, you know, they have done something wrong, they're going to believe that you also did something wrong, right? If you're of the opinion that Jeffrey Epstein and anyone Jeffrey Epstein knew was party to elicit behavior, well, then that's a strong incentive to not want any kind of list to come out. Yeah. I think Tim's made it like a variation of this point of like with both parties, with both candidates, their war chest.

There's probably lots of funding that's coming from people that even if they didn't do anything illegal, they would be on that list to be embarrassing, et cetera, et cetera. So it's like, look, if you're trying to be pragmatic, if you are trying to operate overhaul of the political system, you don't want to have to deal with this on the side because like the thing about Epstein is it's a very online thing and my evidence for this is that Fox News rarely covers it and Fox News is where the majority of the base is sort of

getting their information from and this is why there was that disconnect earlier in the year when Bondi and Trump came out and they're like why do people even care about this? Because in their world people don't really care about it. It's like it is an online thing. I'm not downplaying the importance. Like obviously this is a very scandalous, scandalous thing.

But yeah, that's just the reality is that Trump and Bondi they just saw people like spurging nonstop about it. And they were just like, oh, what, like, what's the deal? So Tim is on with Jesse Waters, and we're going to cut to that right now so we can take a listen to this. For a lot of national security stuff. But what do you think's going to happen next? It's hard to say, you know, it's Biden could have released it.

Trump could have released it. Trump said it was a hoax. But I'm glad to see that Trump is back on message with us. We should see these released. And considering the emails that got leaked in the past couple of weeks, that turned out to be a nothing burger, Well, actually, it turned up to backfire on these Democrats. We're now learning that it was Virginia Joufrey who was listed in these emails who had already said Trump had done nothing wrong. We're learning that a journalist was colluding with Epstein for positive PR.

It sounds like, you know, let's be honest, I don't think we're going to get a lot out of these. I think if there were documents, they're probably long gone. I think there are powerful interests that are probably concerned they'll be made to look bad. But I do think it's a big distraction, and Democrats are getting caught up in some. something. Some have suggested Trump is doing this on purpose. Rope-a-dope, tell him to come in. Oh, no, the Epstein thing's hoax. They tackle this issue. And then Trump focuses on tariffs. He focuses on immigration. The American people at the kitchen table aren't talking about Epstein. They're talking about grocery prices. And as you already pointed out, they're down. I mean,

they're still high, but they're coming down. And I think that's what's going to win a midterm election. Yeah. And he's now real focused on it, especially after the last elections in these blue states. It's kind of a wake-up call, and that's a good thing. The Democrats on the other side, I don't know what they're talking about. Gavin Newsom's in other countries talking about the weather. Kamala is talking to transgender people. I mean, what is going on over there? This is, it's sad for me because in 2020, I actually was a very big supporter of the Democratic Party.

I donated the maximum to Tulsi Gabbard. She's now a Republican alongside Trump. I hear Trump talking about tariffs. I understand this. I am a business owner. I own a skateboard company. We make all of our products in America, and I know what it means for an industry to outsource those jobs.

And I agree with these tariffs because it's been a godsend for the manufacturing in this country, real Americans to get work to benefit our culture. And when I look at Democrats, what are they talking about? They've got Mamdani talking about free buses and faster buses. He has no authority to do that. Chuck Schumer is infighting with Democrats, but the socialists are likely going to take over that party. I don't recognize them anymore.

And it's strange to me that after all in my years, I'm going to be 40 in a few months. The Republicans are the party of the working class and of the manufacturing jobs. I wish we had real political competition in this country, but we just don't. All right. So it looks like the Republican Party

may be competing against the socialists. It looks like Chuck's on his last legs. And like Gavin Newsom, of all people, is like the one semi-normal Democrat that's like keeping everything at bay. I mean, is this what we're facing? I'm pretty confident going into these midterms. Now, the past couple of weeks are a little worrying with the infighting on the right

with some of these foreign policy issues. But, you know, today it seems like Trump is back on message. The infighting is sort of dying down. And when it comes to what the Republicans have to offer, we have wasted a little time on the old Epstein debacle, but maybe that's just political strategy. I got to be honest, I look at the Democrats, and with the future of the party being AOC and,

MAMDani, they don't have anything tangible to offer. In fact, I'm seeing reporting now that Staten Island wants to secede from New York City because Maldani does not have the confidence of even his own city. So I can look at Trump and I can understand tariffs. I can understand these tax policies, these these stip or these dividends. They make sense. I don't see anything on the Democrat side, unfortunately. You know, the only thing that AOC and Mondein have going for them, they've never been on Epstein's plan. Everything else, they got a lot of of problems. Tim, great to see. Hopefully the skateboard company keeps rocking. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Breaking news on wannabe Trump

assassin Thomas Crook. Right? Like the Epstein stuff gets a lot of eyes and there is a small group of people that are extremely motivated by it and extremely, you know, interested in talking about it and stuff. But at the end of the day, the midterms, they're going to be decided. by the cost of groceries. They're going to be decided by whether people feel like the economy is doing well. Do you guys feel like the Republicans have any hope of fixing that? Oh, never mind. Here's Tim.

There we go. Answer the question anyway. No. I don't trust anybody. I still think it's a big problem. And I still talk to people in the real world who think the idea that deep state is an issue. After watching Trump nearly, you know, just barely survive that assassination. attempt, seeing all this deep state work against them with lawfare and a lot of people voting

for Agenda 47, which in part was to dismantle the deep state. I think people, of course, want an economy that they can afford to feed their kids, but they also want to find a way to stop weaponizing the federal government against us. It's my belief that all that stuff is only important when people feel like they can pay the bills. Yeah, exactly. It's like a, this sounds bad, but it's like a luxury belief in. some ways. It's like when things are going really well, then you can like start hashing these things out. But like the thing with the with the Epstein thing, with it being kind of an online thing is yeah, the only time it's ever deployed is when it's being

weaponized against people. And yeah, I mean, like look, the things that Trump has ran on that delivered his victory in 2016 was like immigration, reshoring, manufacturing. Like these are, that's always me the bread and butter issues for Americans. And it's like, yeah, the Epstein thing, it's obviously horrific and people want to see it addressed. But it's kind of, kind of a niche issue. People online don't realize this, but it really is. Like, it's not, like, for example, earlier in the year when the Trump Bondi, you know, debacle happened, they didn't actually take, Trump didn't really take a big hit in the polls in the, in the, in the approval rating. And that's just evidence that's like, look, the vast majority of Americans

aren't really online. They're not really tapped into online discourse at a super high level. They maybe they scroll their feeds, but like Twitter, I think the average, or the, you know, 10% of Twitter is driven, or sorry, 90% of Twitter is driven by 10% of people. And then, Twitter is like a fraction of the population. So it's like the amount of Americans that like their approval of Trump is dependent on how he handles the Epstein things like a very, very small proportion of the base. They're vocal and they're very loud. They really, really think it's important.

But I still believe that, you know, politics is moved by kitchen table issues. Especially like compared to the amount of Americans who have been to a Costco and they see like how many illegal immigrants are on there. That's the kind of stuff that you can win elections off of just go to everyone has to go to a Costco at some point. Have you guys gotten into the crook stuff yet? I'm just coming back from Jesse Waters' show. For those I don't know.

Well done, by the way. It's fun. It's always fun. It's a glaze, but it was very well done. Oh, right on. I appreciate it. A van pulls up. I jump in a van, and I was joking.

They take you down by the river. Was there a candy? It drives down by the river. No, they give me bottled water. And then I get to watch Jesse's show, and then he asks me questions. And I had fun. But there's a handful of big stories, and I, you know, I wasn't here for the beginning to see what you guys talked about.

But we'll grab this one, massive. Thomas Matthew Crooks went by they them on deviant art linked accounts reveal furry fetish. Crooks was not simply some unknowable lone actor. He left a digital trail of violent threats, extremist ideology, and admiration for mass violence. So this is apparently coming from Tucker Carlson's report that he said, you know, we were told by the FBI. This was from his report that he didn't have much of an online footprint. The FBI pushed back when Tucker Carlson said, why were they withholding this from us? And they said, you know, we never said he didn't have a footprint.

But why didn't we know this when this happened? The narrative we were led to believe was that this guy may have been just mentally ill or even potentially right leaning. Now we're getting information that this guy had a flip, became lefty, tried to kill Donald Trump. And it's fitting into this pattern we've seen of these gender ideologue and furry. aligned shooters, strangely, just like this is the narrative we're hearing around the Charlie Kirk assassination as well. And there's been a handful of mass shootings that have been perpetrated by transgender individuals. It seems strange that this information was withheld from us. I'm wondering if this was a Biden cover-up. I'm not sure that I have a, well, maybe, I mean, it completely

could be a Biden cover-up. I hadn't really put a whole lot of thought into that. I do think that it's worth noting that the people that will say, oh, this is something that's something that's unique to the trans community or whatever. I think that this is actually an indication that there's so many people in the trans community that are actually mentally ill. Like, I don't think that the trans is what's causing it. I think the mental illness is causing the transness.

And then you've got people that are willing to, you know, commit violent acts based on their mental illness. I somewhat disagree. Because I've been talking about this earlier. And if it was just that, you'd see this in a variety of different ideologies. But for some reason, we have this pattern of, what is it, like six or seven shooting? in the past year or two

that have been involved in the specifically gender ideology sect of things. Certainly if someone was just mentally ill or disordered, they could find themselves in a whole leather of various weird online fetishes

and ideologies. These people we end up seeing are particularly in one ideology. So I wonder if that means it is the online trans community that is particularly in favor of violence. And perhaps because the Democrat messaging on

has been so strong. That's what I think. The messaging around the trans community or about trans people is that Christians want to kill you. They don't believe that you should exist. The narrative that gets spun to these people is your life is in danger. They're just the way that the right treats you is violence against you. You need to defend yourself. Every, like, there's all kinds of leftists that say things like defend trans kids. They're that shirt. Defend trans kids with a knife and a rose on it or whatever.

I think that the reason they're, or part of the reason that they're violent is because they are told that they are under attack. Well, and beyond that, like, the thing with the trans ideology is destruction is built into it because that is how you participate in the ideology is you destroy your own body. You cut yourself up, et cetera, et cetera. So naturally, that's going to manifest in violence because the violence is part of the ideology. Like, what happens when you become really right wing? You start, like, lifting and, like, reading philosophy. Like, it's just these sorts of things are just downstream from the effect. So it's like, yeah, when an entire ideology is built around like destroying your own body,

naturally that's going to ripple out. And you start destroying, it's a ideology of destruction fundamentally. That's absolutely what it is. And so it's like, yeah, no wonder this occurs. It's like built in. So I got a list here of some DSM-5 mental disorders of which the obvious one is gender dysphoria, which links to gender ideology. There's some degree of overlap with the furry stuff, which is just online fetish stuff.

I actually think gender dysphoria is not. not the mental disorder being suffered by many of these individuals that are committing these shootings or murders. I think there's some other kind of dissociative disorder where they adopt an online identity to themselves. So you have these communities that are particularly violent, leftists, and they also happen to have gender ideology within them. I think what we're likely seeing is somebody who is suffering some kind of mental illness finds, let's say five or six online communities. One of them dominates and imprints those views on them. them, and that's why they're these overlaps.

Because there are a lot of people with intradisphoria that probably aren't even necessarily trans. Like, they may have gender dysphoria, but they don't do anything about it. They just keep it private, say nothing. Some, we know who are trans and literally don't do anything. When I see these patterns, I'm like, there are something about, there is some kind of mental illness where you are easily manipulated by online psychotic content or whatever that creates this sect of people who end up going nuts.

Because the reason I say this is that this Matthew Crooks guy, this Thomas Matthew Crooks guy, had like a flip. Like his politics went one way and then it kind of switched to the other. Seeming like the issue I would say then is the ability to be influenced by aggressive online ideologies. Yeah. Well, I think like, I don't think it's a mental illness. I think it's just young people in modern society are just naturally

disassociated by default because they're completely deracinated. They're stripped of all identities. when they're born. Like, your identities that you're assigned at birth. Like, you're going to be a husband. You're going to be a father. You're going to be a son, a brother, a Christian and American. All those things are disassociated because modern society, the only identity that is imparted on you is to be a consumer. So, like, I don't think it's a mentalist. I think it's naturally disassociated. I agree. In fact, I can't remember when I was a few months ago, we talked about this. Actually, it was on the culture war. I had asked mental health experts, what would it be called

if a person not through dysfunction of the mind or body, but through conditioning, came to believe things that were not true. And they said that would be delusional disorder. That would be a mental illness or a mental disorder. And the interesting thing is, your brain works perfectly fine. You get lied to, and they say you're delusional.

The reason that's scary is, well, one, I agree, that's probably what we're seeing with these individuals. people of otherwise sound mind who if they were in a normal town with, you know, lovely married couples walking with their children and the milkman, you know, driving his truck down the street and the butcher selling bacon, he would identify with those things. And that would be their personality. But I wonder if the real issue is you take any person, isolate them, plug them into these online communities, and that's what they become.

The scary thing is what then happens to all of human society. as we keep going in this direction of social media. Because young people are all impressionable. That's every young person. It's just a matter of who's delivering the impressions. Your community, your surroundings, like how people typically matriculated, or is it going to be online?

And then it's a dice roll. You become a right-wing influencer, or do you become this? I also think this community in particular, as isolated as they are and mentally ill, they're susceptible to this being radicalized into being violent. And it reminds me of the 7-6-4 cult

I talked about in the show a few times. Oh, right, yeah, you know, and Cash recently announced the arrest for the 764 cult. And a lot of things they do is different types of people behind the scenes on the other side of the computer find ways to radicalize these people and make them do real world violence. Yeah. And they have done, either to themselves, to animals or killed people, you know. So I'm very curious, like, who's on the other side of this screen with these people? Well, and young people are naturally going to take on, they're going to take on a mission in life that's going to be radical. That's just like the stereotype of young people.

They all want to change the world. And so it's like a matter of channeling them into a productive, you know, force that's going to be revolutionary or oftentimes it gets channeled than this. But that's just like a very natural. There's two things that are very natural to young people is, A, they're impressionable. And B, they have this mentality they're going to change the world. So they take on naturally, they just take on radical ideologies. It's been the case throughout history. Yeah.

Yeah. And the crooks thing is still weird to me. I'm still like shocked that Trump said he was satisfied with whatever report he got about it because there was so many weird inconsistencies. And strange coincidences he was training at the same shooting range. Department of Homeland Security. That was weird. The way they cremated him very quickly was very weird. The people on top of the roof,

cleaning it very quickly was weird. Yeah. Well, I mean, Trump now is pro-Ebstein release. Yeah. And the new line from Democrats is, oh, the FBI must have scrubbed all the incriminating evidence already. And my reaction is,

why would they have done it literally right now? Why wouldn't they have done it years ago? Yeah. Why wouldn't Biden, like Biden could have released it? Would it Biden just sit on all this anti-Trump evidence? So, you know, I have no idea what is going on? behind the scenes. It's all seems very strange, and I'd be willing to bet if the truth ever did come out on like the crooks stuff and why all this weird stuff happened. And, you know, other just

weird stuff running to Epstein, it's probably something that we never even thought of, just something super weird conspiracy. Like, and I don't know, Trump was involved in a sugar cane smuggling ring and we're just like, never saw that coming, you know? Just weird stuff. Because I mean, like, Bongino and Cash, they come from our world. So it's like if there were really something in there that would be sort of conclusive. At the very least, it would be winking and nodding. That's why it has to be that AI took over already. Yeah.

Tell me more about it. I agree. I think they've been in charge for a while. I don't mean that literally, but isn't it interesting to speculate on Cash and Dan going into the FBI? And then they have this interview where Dan's like, Epstein killed himself. And everyone's like, you don't look too sure of himself on that way. I know what you're saying, Tate.

and I had a lot of high, I had high hopes for them, but they looked like hostages. And what if, what if they got in? And, you know, the FBI is like, come on down to the,

you know, the skiff, we're going to bring you in for a debriefing. And they go in this room and then like this double doors open up, they walk in,

it closes, lights turn off. And then all of a screen goes, turns on. It's this gigantic red eye being like, I am the AI. You work for me now. Like the eye of so on.

Yeah. We've been, I think we rediscovered AI. I don't have to get into a whole, it's an ancient entity that we've rediscovered, but I do feel like it's an algorithm that's been in charge. You know, the AI stuff freaks me out more than

basically everything, and this is what demoralizes me. I've been saying, like, it's demoralizing all these bickering drama debates. I've been having conversations earlier today with people about, it's like people are talking about people. They're not talking about the problems this country is facing.

And to an extent they are, don't get me wrong. I'm happy to see that Trump got back on message. Or he's improving. He's getting back on message. him calling for the release of Epstein files, good play, whatever it may be. Some are suggesting it was fifth dimensional chess the whole time. I always says, I don't know why it needs to be five. Why can't it just be three-dimensional chess?

It's like an extra layer or whatever. But, you know, it's pretty wild. You guys talk about the Democrat already who was colluding with Epstein? I mean, this is crazy. Well, I think the reason why we're seeing all the discourse just centered around talking about other people is just because society has become very feminized. and like naturally men talk about ideas and philosophy and women talk about other people. And that's just, there's benefits to that.

But this is what we're seeing is like it's just much more convenient and conducive for society just to discuss other people because everything's all like, hey. This was actually on, I don't know if you guys watch the Jesse, Jesse Waters intro, but as I'm sitting in the van waiting to do the show, he's talking about the difference between men and women. And he showed this funny clip where guys are trying to watch a game at a bar and some female politician is blowing bubbles everywhere. All the women are like dancing and hooting. and it's just like, yeah, men and women are very, very different. Very different. There is something to be said about like the people that are driving these narratives, for the most part, are podcasters. And podcast space is largely male dominated.

So you've got guys that are even on the right that are ostensibly some form of masculine, but they're still engaging in this stuff. So I don't think that it's just, I don't think that it's just feminine. I think that it's, that it's a lot of it is just profit driven. A lot of it is driven by what will get the clicks. But like oftentimes people will say like, oh, like the media is like, oh, Joe Rogan is this, their like extremist ideology. And then you tune in and he's just like, what if red meant go and green meant stop? And you're like, what?

That's what's crazy, though, because to them that is radical. Right. Like the Joe Rogan-esque kind of, you know, stoned generic conversation is deviant to their weird hive that they exist in. I mean, go ahead. I'll just say they don't like things that are outside of the monolith. You have to, it's a hive mind. You have to agree with everything. The Overtin window is shifted so far to the leftist ideology that to say things that, you know,

a hundred years ago were completely reasonable. Now it's like it's verboten. Like the idea like I'm not for universal enfranchisement, right? I think that there should be limits on who can actually vote when it comes to federal elections. That is incredibly radical to most people nowadays. The idea that everyone shouldn't get, you know, shouldn't be allowed to vote, it's like, I mean, look, man, you go outside and everybody you talk to, they're going to say, man, half the people I meet every day are stupid.

So why do you want them to vote then? Did you all get to the 2000 checks yet? No, we haven't got. All right, let's hit this one. We got this from the New York Post. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get paid. Trump reveals when moderate income Americans can expect to get $2,000 tariff dividend checks. And I say, bravo, it's the right move.

The estimate based on the total tariffs that have come in is that Trump will be able to give around 100 million people a check for $2,000. I am for this. This is beautiful. Trump vowed to issue tariff dividends sometimes for the 26 midterms during an Oval Office event. We're going to be issuing dividends later on somewhere prior to the middle of next year. A little bit later than that, he said, noting it would include thousands of dollars for individuals of moderate income. Besant said the payments could come in lots of forms, including just the tax decays. that we are seeing following cuts made in the big beautiful bill. So maybe you actually don't get a check. You just pay less in taxes. You get a better refund. I am for this. I was, I got a,

video I put up on my Tim Pool channel, YouTube.com slash at Tim Pool. Check it out. Where I, there's this debate from, it's Luke Beasley versus 20 boomer Trump supporters. And the first argument is not magonomics, which is just a buzzword that means nothing. You mean the tariffs? And of course, Luke Beasley, who won't come back on the culture war for debate, he's refused because he knows he'll get roasted, engages in sophistry or just lies. Maybe it's a mistake. Maybe he's dumb. The tariffs are brilliant. I'm a huge fan. We're not going to see the job repercussions just yet. It's going to take some time to rebuild our manufacturing base. But for now, it is good, in my opinion, that we are telling foreign, we're talking American companies. It's going to cost us. It's going to cost

you more money to hire a Chinese or Indonesian laborer than an American worker to bring these jobs back. I will stress this, though, because we can split the story too. While Donald Trump is in favor of that, and I like it, he's also a big AI guy, which of course is going to, you can't coexist in the space. AI is another industrial revolution that is going to wipe out a massive amount of jobs. Plus, you've got the optimist robot. Elon Musk talking about how the optimist robot is going to be doing surgery better than a doctor. So your high-skilled jobs are going to be wiped out by robots and computers. I don't know how these ideologies actually work alongside each other.

They don't. All right, we're cooked. This is a short-term benefit. This is good that people are suffering and people could use anything they can get. And I'm pro-tariff, but it can't coexist in a pro-datacenter dystopia where you're sacrificing farmland for all the data centers. And it's not like they're going to bring in jobs. Because even the largest data center in the world only has like 100 employees, 125 employees.

And that's the largest one. Most of them only have 20, 25. And they have replaced. This is one of the stories that we were talking about the other day. There's an old aluminum refinery. Probably had what? Hundreds of a thousand jobs plus, something like that. A lot.

And now you get a data center with arguably maybe 100 jobs because you only really need a dozen or so. Yeah. Depending on the size of these data centers. We are watching. And this is what people need to be careful of because I'm a fan when I hear the stuff about these tariffs, these dividends. People who want to buy products from TEMU, fine.

But that money is going to get sent back across the American people. And Trump was talking about using that to help them pay for health care. And I'm like, let's go. If you want to buy from China, feel free to. And that's how that money you spend, that's going to pay for health care. Okay, fine. Not a perfect solution, but in this digital world where services can be done internationally

and products can be easily shipped, we need some kind of protectionism, in my opinion. That being said, this country is turning into a giant field of black cubes with fake houses around them and no jobs. And I wonder if all of these arguments about we got to turn the population crisis around from politicians, I wonder if they're just lying because it's a pressure release valve. Trump is the, would it Stargate? Or no, no, it wasn't Stargate.

Project Stargate, yeah. Stargate was like the big AI project. $500 billion, yeah. Trump is very much for this. I get it. We don't want China to do it. But the end result is the argument just saying, we have no choice. Humanity is reaching. It's, you know, the back end of that bell curve.

We're going down. Right. I mean, the argument people will say is, well, we got to beat China, you know, but it's like, so we destroy ourselves, like China's destroying themselves. And they'll say, well, it's a beautiful city. But I'm like, okay, well, it's a city built on the social credit system through the AI. You know, so it's like, it's really no win. It's like gain to function.

You know, once they start it, there's no putting it back in the bottle. And China's just like, like, what they make, like 13 grand is like the GDP per capita. They just strap RGB lights to a building and they're like, whoa! That's the way that that they at least advertise is, like, look at all the lights, and so that means that we're in advanced

society. I did a dragon drone, whoa! And then meanwhile, it's like half the country really struggling to make ends me. Sure, but I have heard good things from Hassan Piker. Yeah, he just cried when he got Mow's red book. I mean, the shocker. Are you for real? There's a video of him getting the red book.

He's insane. He was one of the original. It was one of the original copies that was in English and they're very rare and so he was very excited. That's like, oh man, someone gave me a copy of mine. Come, thank you so much. I got to be honest. Is it really? No.

Oh, I was like, wow. I would love to own a copy of a little red book. No, it'd be great. I'm not going to cry out of tears of joy, yeah. Like, I'm a big fan of artifacts and preserving history so that we're not doomed to repeat it. 100%. The lesson that I would give to people from,

Here's the Red Book is, here is the evil. And Hassan's going to be like, we can try again. Yeah. And do you know how expensive it is to make a shot collar in the United States? It's ridiculous. Oh, yeah, he'd never buy one of those. Yeah, just that poor dog. Is the guest allowed to disagree with Tim on this one? No, never. By all means, tell me why I'm wrong. Yeah, I mean, I just, I have no problem with the tariffs. I like the terrorists that's bringing in revenue. I just don't think we should be sending it back to the American people. I think we should we should be taking a look at this, you know, huge deficit that we have.

And unfortunately, the American people are pretty ignorant on basic economic. economics, which is if we continue to print money, that's why grocery prices are so high. That's why home prices. I don't know about you guys. I live in Austin between 2020 and 2024, the value of my home went up by 100%. Why? Because everybody moved there. There's a ton of money being flooded into the economy.

We just printed trillions and trillions of dollars. Our debt now is half of our budget. You know, it's bigger than the, the military budget. I mean, I think we should put all this money. we should reduce deficits. We are toast if we can't get these deficits down. I agree. We are absolutely done if these deficits don't get reduced. I say put every dollar of this back to reducing the deficit. I disagree there, but I agree on the deficit issue in general, and that's got to come from real spending cuts. The problem is everyone's addicted and nobody wants to actually be the one to say,

stop spending on the credit card. Agreed. But let me say this about the tariffs. The reason why Trump is offering these dividends is because the American public does not understand long-term planning. No. The individual is in the immediate saying, I need to feed my family. What do tariffs mean? Democrats are weaponizing this, like I mentioned, that Luke Beasley guy lying, where he says, the economy is bad and tariffs are at fault. I'm like, you just made that up.

Give me the correlation. Give me the causation. We need these tariffs because it is impossible for an American manufacturer to compete with Chinese peasant labor. I agree with you. So the point of the tariffs is to say, if you make the product over there, it'll be more expensive than a product made here. How do you then convince a regular old American default label who's not paying attention to these issues to say, trust us in the long term you will succeed?

You can't. So what does Trump say? The tariff money is going to go to you in your pocket to cover your short term expenses. And now you're going to see the normies go, okay, I'm good on these tariffs. What's that going to do? Step one, bring back manufacturing. Now, the argument Trump has made on why this is beneficial is we're going to be under leveraged. If we can generate more economic activity internally, we can start generating more revenue, tax revenue, just through volume alone and use that to pay down the deficit.

I will concede, however, Trump ain't doing that unless it gets the spending way down. Because the- Elon tried that and the guy got kicked out. The debt needs to be paid down and the deficit needs to be reduced. Yes. So does anyone have any opinion on whether the $2,000 dividends is a response? to the refusal by the Fed to lower interest rates? Is this an effort to stimulate spending?

I think it's in response to the Supreme Court potentially striking down Trump's authority on the tariffs, which would be catastrophic for this country. I believe Trump is 100% correct on this issue. And the Supreme Court may say Trump has no authority to do this. I think Trump's play here is we need the American people to demand it. We want the Supreme Court is a wholly political body. these people save Thomas and Alito are cowards. And if the American people are demanding it, Supreme Court's going to say, fine.

I mean, look at the issue of gay marriage. They refuse to even listen to that case. Despite the fact, on the merits, whatever you think about gay marriage, that was an insane ruling that they made back in, was it, 2015 or 14? They wouldn't even listen to it. They wouldn't even listen to Texas v. Pennsylvania, which is their duty under the Constitution in original jurisdiction. They are cowards.

Sorry, Thomas and Alito are based, but the rest of them are too scared. I get it. Someone tried to kill Kavanaugh. I get it. But the issue here is Trump is basically saying, I want the American people to scream out we want tariffs. And so that's how you do it. Well, and Trump's trying to conduct like long term policy and a democracy, which is just like pretty much impossible to do. I mean, you look at like China, Iran, Russia, for what it's worth, like they're able to plan in terms of decades because they're not accountable to voters. But the United States, you have the think in terms of like if you're in the House, two years, if you're a senator, six years, president, four years. It's like it's impossible to really conduct any long term planning. Now you understand. and Hassan. Yeah. I understand Trump's Caesar. It could be, you know, I'm saying it's a possibility. I think this is all about midterms. I mean, I think this is about midterms next year. We're coming off the government shutdown. You know, you can argue whether the Democrats or the Republicans looked worse on that. The whole issue in the midterms is going to be the Republicans don't want to give us our free health care. Trump wants to offset that by saying, yes, you didn't get your free health care, but we're going to give you $2,000. I think it's a political move specifically around

the midterm. We just read, when are these things? thing's going to happen mid-26, when is the mid-term's going to happen, end of 2026. I think this is a post-shut-down political game by Trump to get people more money. And I think these things always end up bad. The government giving people more money is just a buying of votes from my perspective. Anytime you do cash injections, you end up exacerbating the gap between poor and inflation. Because poor, well, because poor people have to spend their money, right? They're going to If you give someone, if he does the $2,000 dividend, people aren't going to invest that or sit on it. They're going to spend it on their needs.

And that money is inevitably going to go to people that have property, that own things. That money is going to go to the people that own businesses, to the people that own, that already have things. So anytime you do cash injections, that's where all the money from 2020 and 2021 and all those things went. Where did it go? It went to all the rich people. The rich got richer. The poor got poorer. And the poor are the ones who are now paying $9.

for a pound of ground beef as opposed to $5 or $6. If I'm making $300,000 a year, I don't give a shit if I'm paying $9 for a pound of ground beef. But the guy who's making $20,000 does. That's all true. But the point that I'm making is, and it's something that we've talked about on the show in the past, right now, people are looking at the income

inequality in the United States, and that's driving them away from reasonable politics. It's driving them to socialism. And so if you continue to pump money into the economy and create a larger gap between the wealthy and the poor, you're only going to make the poor people, which are far more poor people than there are rich people, you're only going to make them more angry, and they're going to say, well, then this isn't working. We need some kind of new system for our...

And I will stress this too. If this continues long term, just giving $2,000 dividend checks to poor people, you're going to create wildlife dependency syndrome. Do not feed the bears, they'll become dependent. Well, I think we already have, that's like the problem is the Democrats have built out this massive patronage network. And that's how they're able to get fantastic election results in cities. And so I think that's all Trump's trying to do here is trying to create a patronage network for Americans. Like it's a very radical idea. But that's clearly what he's setting up here.

Can I just campaign on that? Can I like run for office and just be like, vote for me and I will tax rich people to give money straight to straight up check. Like I'll just, we're going to tax them? There's not enough of them to vote against me. So you vote against them. I'll give you their money. Straight up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no just take from them. But that's where the frustration is coming from, because if you, like,

look at the discourse around the snap benefits ending, that's getting to the heart of where the real anger is, is that it's the productive Americans versus the unproductive Americans. So that's all that's happening here is there's been this massive patrons network the Democrats have set up for unproductive Americans. I think Trump is just trying to get the boot off of the neck of like working people. Totally. And you mentioned like, you mentioned buying votes. That's what's been happening. They've been buying these votes for like, what, 80 years? Like, they've been doing it for a long time. And it's like, we're doing it by taking money from corporations that are trying to do business in this country, which is like probably, it's a lot better than printing more of our own

money. It's real value. I agree with that. I have no issue with the tariffs. What I'm saying is don't take the tariffs and then give it to the people, but take the tariffs and do it to reduce the deficit. So we can stop printing money. We can slow this inflation down. Inflation's at what, 3%. It's clearly more than 3%. I mean, there's there's no way than hell it's 3%. The way that they calculate CPI is a total disaster. It's a total joke. And so, you know, it's not 3% and the poor people are the ones that are getting hurt most. So what I'm saying is let's reduce the deficit. Let's get it down as far as we can. Stop printing all this money. Get inflation under control. And I'm a fan of the tariffs. Let's use that as a tool to do that.

Do you agree with where it's going. I just disagree with where it's going. I wish they would have let, you know, Elon and them go after it. Elon basically came out and said there's no freaking way. There's, we're going to reduce spending. And so I think we're toast on the deficit unless we can do something like this to offset it. I think the problem too is like there's not much of an appetite among, even Republicans now for reducing the deficit because that was what motivated like the Tea Party. I mean, this is. You don't get votes by reducing deficit. It's boring. It's been the Republican platform for 60 years is like, oh, we're going to reduce a deficit. And then it continues to go up. So I think the American people are saying, it's not going anywhere. I might as well like raid the treasury on the way out. And at least

again, build that system to reward Americans in some way. Like I think people don't really believe the Republicans anymore when it comes to like we're going to reduce the deficit. And they shouldn't. And we're economically ignorant as a society. We don't understand the fact that we have huge deficits. Everybody's looking at, you know, me, what do I get? Right?

And you're going to buy votes. It's going to continue to happen, bro. Republicans and Nebraska. Let's jump to the story from the New York Post. Let our people go. Zoran Mamdani Victory Spurr, Staten Island Polls, to renew bid to pull out of New York City. That's right, my friends. Staten Island wants to secede from the state of New York, from maybe not the state, but the city of New York, because

it's a conservative enclave. It's relatively smaller or lower in population density, and they don't want to be in a city of communists. I would say this. They have had the conversation before. They've been pushing this bill. This is Lanzah, Staten Island has been pushing a bill since 2008, seeing little traction. But now that they've had the conversation. that it's swung so far left and people are fleeing, even Democrats may agree with us. The argument being, if Staten Island leaves, New York City becomes a socialist guarantee, you will never get a Republican or independent mayor again. Now, I got to be honest, I don't care about all that. I mean, it is bad if we have this entrenchment and polarization. But I believe that if any part of

these United States internally wants to secede from their respective jurisdiction and either isolate or join a new one, they should be allowed to do it. Yeah. If Staten Island says we want to be our own city, they should be federally allowed to do it by simple vote. There's something really interesting that no one's talking about with the Staten Island thing, is if Staten Island were to secede from New York City,

it would destroy the FDNY. Because the fire department in New York, when you're becoming a firefighter, you take like a test, and they give you bonus points for living within the five boroughs, and that, like, puts you above everybody else. Now, if Staten Island succeeds, they lose those bonus points for living in New York City,

the world's best firefighters are in Staten Island. It's completely eviscerate. The FDNY is going to be just full of like DMV employees. Cops too, though. The police department, yeah, but the fire department specifically rewards people for living in the firebrose. Can you imagine what EMS is going to look like when it's just like DMV employees in charge of everything? Like New York City is going to become third world in so many different ways. This would be a massive hit.

This polarization is going to happen either way. People are either going to, like Staten Island is either going to get out or these people are going to move somewhere else. Yeah. I mean, that's the reason why New Jersey is even in play is because so many New Yorkers that still need access to the city. move across the river to New Jersey because it's like slightly it's a slight improvement. And so yeah, it's going to put New Jersey and Connecticut and to play more. Because everyone talks about Florida. Everyone knows that.

But it's like a lot of people still need the city because they work in it. And it's just going to like benefit Republicans in Connecticut and New Jersey. But destroy New York City. Has the Wu-Tang clan made a comment yet about this? No. That's all I care of them. Practical Jokers made a statement. Take a look at this.

New York and New Jersey lose hundreds of billions in resident income as Americans flee to low-tax states. This has been going on for some time. So Mamdani coming in, he says he wants New York City to have the highest, I think it was Mom Donnie. He wants New York City to have the highest corporate tax rate in the country, or it would rival New Jersey's corporate tax rate at around 11.7%. Companies are just going to leave. I mean, do you see Delaware is already bleeding companies? Coinbase has announced they're leaving Delaware? Because an activist Democrat judge said, we can stop your company from functioning like a normal company.

You don't really piss me off about that. The shareholders voted to give Elon money and said, Elon, we want to give you money. because we want our stock to go up. We want the company to succeed. He says, okay, you get one guy with a small handful of shares who sues, and the judge says, okay, the will of the shareholder is now gone because I said so. And I, as a shareholder, I can't sue to make it happen. Because a judge ruled it. I can't sue the judge, and I can't sue the company to make them pay because the company already wants to, but are blocked by this judge. These Democrat activists in politics are losing their minds, and they're going to burn their cities and states to the ground. We gloat about it,

But this is going to create escape from New York. Maybe that's the plan. Maybe the real conspiracy among the elites is how do we turn New York into a giant prison? So we can have escape from New York with this, what's his name? Snake Pliskin? That's right. We want it. There's some guy right now in the Trump administration who was, you know, 10 or 11 years old when that movie came out.

And he's like, man, I really wish we had that. And he's colluding behind the scenes to make it happen. And maybe that's Zoranamani. Yeah, pretty close. Love that movie. Well, it's like, I mean, Democrats, they do want this. I mean, like, a lot of Republicans scratched your heads. Like, you're going to destroy your city.

You're going to, like, you know, you're going to destroy the business. It's like, yeah, so then all their opposition leaves and they have the city to themselves. Like, do you think barbecue down in Haiti wants to, like, improve the country? No, he wants to stay in power. And eat people. And he wants to eat people. It happened during lockdowns. Everyone left the city.

A lot of businesses died. Bill de Blasio bought up a lot of buildings. And the ones he didn't buy, like the hotels. He kicked a lot of those hotels out and used them for illegals. And then the mayor gave them Debecarts. Yeah. Would have thought that the business environment

of a particular region matters. Yeah. People will leave. This is something that the right does an argument that the right makes all the time. Look, if you do this, people will leave. Look, if you do this, people will leave. And the left says, no, they're not going anywhere.

No, they're not going anywhere. Well, it's happening in Delaware right now. It's happening in New York right now. People have started out leave. And New York's a particularly interesting example, because this is a phenomenon that occurs across the anglo sphere, is the biggest city in Anglosphere countries actually has a sizable conservative minority.

So London has the same thing. Sydney has the same thing. Toronto has the same thing. And so what's happening now is they're trying to overturn that because the biggest city in your country, I mean, a lot of people are saying, well, it's New York, you know, let it collapse. It's like, yeah, this is the seat of our empire. Like, we're talking about the biggest city that really exemplifies what America is, unfortunately, but it's just true.

That's the way, like, your biggest city works. It's the flagship of your country. And so it's like, that's all they're trying to do here is they're trying to solidate power because it'd be really demoralizing, quite frankly, to completely eviscerate Giuliani's New York. They affect that that would have, like, I know a lot of people in Chatterpa, like, ah, who cares New York? But the average American likes to vacation in New York. They like to watch Fox News and see the city in the background. They say, wow, that's America. Wow, this is this beautiful city, et cetera, et cetera. Destroying that has a huge demoralizing effect on Americans,

whether you like, whether you like New York or not, it's just the reality. And destroying New York City destroys the rest of New York, destroys the rest of the country. Like, it has a ripple effect. And you can see it like when Paris did all that. when they voted on the gas taxes and they started the Yellow Vest riots, one of the longest running riots. You know, it was a lot of people from the rural areas that were getting impacted by ridiculous, you know, policies by the city people who don't care about them.

And, I mean, we're seeing a lot of that stuff happen around the world right now. Everyone should be paying attention. Like what went on in Mexico the other day is insane, you know, because the violence is out of control. And, I mean, that stuff could happen here at some point. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, like the UK is a good analog where it's like, in their case, I mean, America's a lot of cities, but in the UK, like London is the city.

So all they really have to do is destroy London, and that destroys the country because that's where all the young people go for jobs. That's where their culture comes out of, et cetera, et cetera. You name it. They only have to destroy one city. In America's case, we have backups, obviously. But New York City ultimately still is like where the culture comes out of where a lot of our, I mean, a huge chunk of our GDP is concentrated in that tri-state area.

It's like, again, I wish we could say just leave it. You know, like Chicago, you can experiment a little bit. You know, you can chuck a socialist out. Let's see what happens. You know, it's Chicago. You don't lose a NASPA race. How dare you take? I think we're dealing with fatigue.

Across the board. I think people are politically fatigued. We are in, you know, just after the presidential cycle, so people are pretty exhausted. But people, I think, are generally culture war fatigued. I've been hearing it quite a bit. And just recently something funny happened where at the casino here, Charlestown, they have commemorative John Brown chips. I know Shane's got this look on his face like, interesting. And, well, so one guy at the table was,

I forgot what someone brought up that people will go online and buy these things or something and then it came up and I said I think it's actually kind of surprising they would do that because it's almost like they're honoring the guy and then he said well I mean maybe you don't want to praise him but you don't denounce him and I said yes you do

and then he's like we can't do this we can't get into politics and I was like not even 1860s politics too soon too soon yes I guess I brought it up because I thought it was a funny scenario where it's like we can't debate 1855? It's not that you can't debate 1855 politics. It's you can't debate anything that the left holds dear. Well, I don't think that this guy was necessarily a lefty.

I think it was, he said we can't do this because everyone is sick of politics. And it was like, he's like, we're going to get into it. Let's just play this game and have a good time. And I'm like, I hear you. Well, I mean, we can denounce, we don't have to kill people, but John Brown also hated slavery. That was a nice thing.

Well, now we're in the debate. Yeah. The issue, with the right on the Harper's Ferry Armory is one thing, but his entire legacy of what was happening in Bleeding Kansas is nightmarish. I mean, John Brown and his sons and these other people involved, they murdered journalists. They went to, they went to like printing presses. It was back and forth. I mean, pro-slavery forces were massacring innocent people and farms, anti-slavery people go to farms and kill people, but I'm not here to have that debate.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, I just want to point out. My point is that I think people are generally just like, I don't hear it, dude, I'm so just burned on all of this. I think the issue is it feels like nothing's happening. It feels like, I feel like a rag being squeezed as hard as possible, the last little bit of water out of it. And I'm just waiting for that pop to be like, we've done it. There's a light at the end of the tunnel, and it feels like it ain't there. I think something on the edge of something even crazier. I mean, it just goes, I think that, Well, that is a whole other problem, but like I feel like we are on the edge of some something major. Like there's a the what you're talking about, the people who don't want to talk about politics anywhere, I think that's almost by design.

It's been pumped into everyone's heads. We've been trapped in an election cycle for 10, 15 years, right? Usually like growing up, I remember election cycles would be like four years. We take a little breather. And I was younger, obviously, but I was always a political junkie. And since Trump, since like 2014, 2015, it's never stopped. The media. Everyone went crazy.

and I think they took advantage of that. They hijacked the algorithm, social media. Everyone went insane. I think part of that is by design to make it so everyone gives up and then stops paying attention and then something happens. I wonder if a lot of it was,

you know, the story of Obama using Facebook to help him win, 08, is that a young whippersnapper went to him and said, are using social media and they were like, we don't know what that is because they're older, they weren't paying attention. And so they decided to start campaigning

on social media and it helped them turn out more of the youth vote, which wasn't like the principal factor, but it was a big deal everyone talked about it. I wonder if Democrats after that point said, we need to own this. This will rally people, and this created the phenomenon that started driving

wholeness and ultimately helped Trump win because people were annoyed by it. They did a short-term benefit. They were like, we can take over this to win for a while, and they did. I'm going to let you guys in on a not-so-secret secret secret. On, what was it, Thursday? Last week, the culture war interview was with Ben Davidson about the solar storm.

200 and some odd thousand views. Wow. Typically, you know, when we do interviews in the show, it's like maybe like 80 to 100. Yeah. I think people are just, I think there's a couple things. One, when it comes to the political issues, it's just like, I've heard this a hundred million times. Arguments about tariffs have been going on now for longer than a year with them infect for about a year. Okay. And the political violence stuff is just ramping up. I mean, I'll be honest, it's how I feel.

I see people in the chat are saying something to that effect as well. I feel like we're all just, at a certain point, you can only say the same thing where people are like, give me a solution, solve the problem, or talk to me about football. Literally, it used to be like politics was for nerds, like guys that would bear suits to school. And then it turned into a blood sport, like everyone was tuning in at night for all these shows and everything. And now we're kind of going back to like maybe the nerds get scored. I agree. I think when you look at that young kid, everyone's been ragging on, what's his name, Bryland Hallahan.

And I don't mean to rag on him. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. But conservatives have always come off as stodgy suit wearing boring dudes. And they were the ones who were talking high-level politics. And Democrats were the ones who are talking at your heartstrings being like, but look, little kids crying. We have to burn the Constitution. And people were like, okay.

Republicans now seem to be drifting back into that space. And I think, you know, a good example of this is actually the Candace Owen stuff. Let's jump into this. Let's get drama with it. We got the story from Us Weekly. Christian influencer Ali Beth Stucky slams Candice Owens claims Charlie Kirk murder was an inside job. So if you've been following it, actually, you know what it'd be funny?

Let's ask Grock because Grock does not like Candace Owens. That's not meant to be a joke. I mean, like, let's see what it says. I'm going to ask it a question. Grock, why don't you like Candice Owens? So the drama is, I still feel like the drama is, is something that is still kind of feminine overall. I mean, I know that people, it gets clicks and stuff,

but you know, you hear people on the right and podcasters on the right doing things like saying, go out and do something and et cetera, et cetera. Go ahead. Oh, so you're going to finish your book. I just think that the response is to click the next podcast, and I think that there needs to be more people that are going out to do things.

This is my point. Candice was getting big traction on the Blake Lively stuff. I know nothing about that, but like basically every woman knew something about it. She talked about Bridget McCrone being a man and not policy. I thought it was interesting. She got sued. We talked about it.

Other than that, not really. Like when there's a legal action, I'm like, ooh, interesting. But just like the claims to man, I'm like, I don't think Richard McCrone's a man. I mean, maybe whatever. Now that Charlie Kirk murder can, you know, potential inside job stuff. I think the success that she is having right now is largely indicative of. People don't

care about the policy talk right now. we are burned on it. We have been told it a million times. Trump has said X, X, X, X, X, over and over again, tariffs, tariffs, policy, policy, and we're still waiting to see results on these things, which you probably won't. And so people are like, on board, I want something else. Well, you know, Candace has offered them these things, which has resulted in political controversy. So I asked Grock, as Candace Owens implied, Erica Kirk knew in advance about the Charlie's assassination. I had to put the Charlie Kirk assassination. Grock says, yes. Candice Owens has implied, I'm going to zoom in on this, that Erica Kirk knew in advance about the circumstances surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th at Utah Valley University.

While Owens is explicitly denied directly accusing Erica of involvement, such as murder, she has made repeated statements suggesting Erica had prior knowledge of threats or a broader conspiracy, tied to Turning Point USA, which Erica now leads as the CEO. And so they just, you know, context. Owens' comments stem from her ongoing conspiracy theories about the assassination, et cetera, et cetera. again, I think people are really interested in conspiracy theories. They're fun. I mean that in general. I'm not trying to say anything related to Charlie. You know, this idea that there's an ice wall, for instance, and it's being covered up.

Indeed. Yes. People are interested by this stuff. And I think right now, the challenge is when we are told for a year straight, political violence, and it keeps happening, eventually we're just like, I know. Right. When Trump says tariffs and the Democrats argue, the argument has not changed. The response is, I know. Tell me something I don't know. When it comes to the Grock thing, though, and asking that question, doesn't that answer have something to do with the amount of people saying that Candace said that, even though Candace didn't actually say that?

Potentially. But for whatever reason, Grock is saying this, I wonder if Candice could potentially have a defamation claim. Correct implication of prior knowledge in episode 260, she said. Wow. Seems like Erica knew about the threat. and she now runs an organization that killed Charlie, and she hasn't done anything about it, and it makes you wonder what else she knew. This was widely interpreted as hinting at Erica's awareness of security risks or internal betrayal before the shooting.

I'm curious if that's a real quote. I bet it's not. I bet it's fake. I've watched almost all the episodes. I don't remember her saying anything like that. They put the dot dot dot, which means... Look at the dot, dot, dot. I don't think this is real.

And that thing right there, Erica knows everything that she said in the reply. I believe she was just quoting Andrew Colvitt, who said that on a podcast. She didn't quote anybody. She just literally said it. But that's what he said those three words too. Someone, someone asked, did Erica know about the donors? I'm like that. Erica knows everything.

Right. I think that's what she was referring to. I mean, I don't know. But when I see Erica knows everything, that's what Andrew said. And then he had to clarify the next day because everyone was like, what does that mean? And he clarified, you know, I forget the context, but. Like, all of this just epitomizes like the TMZification of politics. And that's just what people like get completely exhausted with.

Because it's like with the Mori show. It's like the first time you watch it, you go, oh, wow, this is crazy. Look at this. And then what are he's tuning in every night? I'll say this, though, to defend. Because I'm enjoying Candace's. I'm enjoying it, too. I'm just saying, like, that's what you can be browned.

But, like, I would say calendar gate was drama and ridiculous. And this is different than that. Because it's not just surface level. I don't hear her actually blaming certain people for the murder. But I hear her going on different. If anyone's read crying of Lot 49, it reminds me of the Thomas Pinchin novel, Edip Amas going after all these different avenues that are interesting. that are interesting that pulled together different threads.

There's no answers yet. But I like the question. The same way I defended Alex Jones during St. Dock. I think the question is, if you were to go to somebody right now and say, we have the option to talk about tariffs or this weird picture of a bush, the Charlie Kirk assassination, people are going to be like to talk about the bush. Yeah, I'm sure a lot. I mean, obviously a lot of people are engaged.

Her numbers are insane. You know, a lot of people are tuned in. She's had good numbers across the board for a while. I don't think the Charlie Kirk thing is driving or increasing her. I don't think she's a certain. And I don't personally think she's doing it for numbers. You know, like the Brigitte thing was interesting. At first, I didn't care.

But if you watch it, it's really about how there's a lot of pedophiles within the government. And you can go look that stuff up. Man, she's really, she's really taken over the Alex Jones mantle. That's what I had Alex Jones' son on my show a few weeks ago. And I said they're going to do to Candace what they did to your dad. That's coming. And it's already happening with France. She's getting sued with Bridget McCrone.

I mean, there was an argument, I guess, that they had sent something to her to prove Bridget McCrone as a woman Brigitte McCrone started an only fan's Wait what? I'm just kidding To prove no I mean I don't really care about Brigitte her I am I might but the but the story around it is fascinating And the amount of people that are involved in the politics of that

And that administration and how Openly pedophilic they are is disgusting and disturbing You know Strangely a lot of governments and a lot of world leaders Exactly that's why it's so fascinating I love how the Epstein stuff was you're nuts if you talk about it and then as the deep state begins to break down now it's like yeah no we all know about it in fact the democrats are accusing trump of the epstein stuff trump's now saying now release it and i'm like

you know that's what i was saying on jessie waters like no one knows yeah it's gonna be something weird like you know i don't know trump was just like a low low a low level pot dealer or something stupid i'm kidding but it's going to turn out that something is is going to be just we didn't expect yeah or it could be just completely on the nose epstein pedophile rich people buying kids. It's part of the arbitrage is like you turn these stories into something absurd so that way people actually lose focus of what like what if you actually drill down what's the subject. Like they'd be the same thing with the Clinton kill list where it turned into like the oh you know like something bad happens like oh he had informationally the rest of

Hillary Clinton. It's like yeah because if you can like arbitrage and like turn it into an absurd thing then completely loses what the actual story was about in the first place. I asked has she said Robinson was framed yes Candace Owens has repeatedly stated and implied that Tyler Robinson was framed for Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th, 25, her claims portrayed the official narrative Robinson as the lone gunman motivated by anti-conservative ideology as a government-orchestrated cover-up involving evidence tampering, witness suppression, and planted details. I got to be honest, that narrative is infinitely more interesting than tariffs. Yeah, I mean, I was saying that on this show two days after the assassination.

I think I question that official narrative too. Should we just talk about data centers and? I think this is one of the only things we should be talking about because it's going to affect the farmland. it's going to effect the middle. It's going to genocide the middle class, whatever's left of the middle class. Oh, it's cooked, bro. And the data centers aren't only going to take the farmland and all land.

It's also going to, whoever does have a house near those things, it's going to make them pay more. They're already seeing energy bills and the water bills. I think that the declining birth rate, I'll put it this way. I try to be very careful on this stuff. I think there is a decent probability based in reality that powerful corporate and government forces predicted the AI

timeline. Military technology is much more advanced than civilian. And they said, what happens with a new industrial revolution? We know it happened the first time, the Luddites. There was violence. People said, I'm not going to give up my job. And they put more soldiers against the Luddites than they put in the Napoleonic Wars. There you go. So what happens if they say, listen, the computers are going to bring about a new industrial revolution once we hit artificial intelligence and it takes over a lot of these jobs. How do we prevent a Luddite revolt? Simple. No Luddites. Yeah, I was just thinking about this on the way over, oddly enough. I was thinking how they created it. You know, the Unabomber was M.K. Ultrid. That's, you can look that up. And I was like, maybe they created the MK. Utti altered him to

make Luddites look bad, you know? I'm saying, because I agree with his book. His book is amazing, just no violence. They were advocating for a culture in which people don't have children. Yeah. So that by the time the AI clicks on, it's a, oh, thank God, the AI has filled the role for these jobs we don't have. You guys see Ford saying they can't find any mechanics? Yeah. The robots are coming. The only problem is nobody's going to be buying cars.

The CEO of Anthropic was just on like 60 minutes or something talking about how they're going to wipe, Claude's going to wipe out half the workforce, a white collar workforce, I believe he said. And then I was thinking about how Peter Thiel's been talking about anyone who criticizes AI, he calls a legionaire of the Antichrist. And I was thinking at first that was against a lot of people like us who are openly critical. Maybe it is. But I think it's also against his competition because he's been.

open about wanting to monopolize these industries. So he's talking about anthropic. He's talking about Altman, and he wants to own all of that, consolidate all that power into something like Palantir. I want to ask you guys about this new show that just came out. Let me see if I can find that article about it. I watched one episode.

Let me grab this article. This is from the Hollywood reporter. Pluribus boss Gordon Smith addresses anti-AI subtext. Says it's less rich to spell things out. Smith acknowledges another prominent theory that the show is commenting on political division, but there's an under-discussed topic he raises after episode three of Reyes Seahorn starring a series from

Vince Gilligan. So for those that aren't familiar, this is not really a spoiler because I learned this just from the show's info section. It's actually, I guess they have to release this information before you see the first episode, despite the fact that like watching the episode. Anyway, the point is humans get a signal from outer space. It is an RNA sequence. They put the sequence together. It accidentally infects humans, turning humans into a hive mind. And it's really interesting. I watched the first couple of episodes. And without getting into any spoilers in particular, as it pertains to the AI conversation, the gist of the show is 12 people on the planet are not effective. They're immune for some reason. But every human becomes one. And they refer to themselves as us.

And there's a guy in the show and he's like, is this the end of the world? Is it wrong? So I'm curious with this new show coming out. I was thinking about it. No murder. Everybody just one with each other, working towards a shared common goal. But it sounds like a nightmare dystopia. It's zombie paradise.

Yeah, right? Zombie paradise. What do you guys think? I mean, I watched for the first episode. I also thought I was kind of like, they're probably going to explore this in later episodes and like whether they're positive and positives and negatives to it,

but I mean, is it just a human thing where you feel this need to be individual? Because I know some of my friends in Japan don't feel a similar drive to be individual. It's a very different culture fundamentally, so I don't know. I'm excited to see what they do. I'm curious as to how they even do a show, to be real.

Because basically there's two characters. Yeah, yeah. There's the woman and everyone else. And the hive. And whenever she talks, like, there are actors and actresses who play, you know, hived humans or whatever, but it's one character.

And it's just like they're all talk in unison sometimes. Yeah. I thought it was a fun I always saw the first episode. It was a funny moment when I won't give too much away when she's sitting in her house

after everything goes down and the TV goes on. It was like a very interesting feeling you know, I haven't seen a lot of other shows unlike maybe the leftovers but they did deliver the mind virus via chem trails

if everyone saw that. Okay, spoiler this for episode one because it's been out for a little while but this is interesting stuff. The scene is they're outside of bar and they look up and there's all these planes spraying chemtrails.

Yeah. Yeah. The nasty part was when the, when the scientists grabbed the donuts, started licking them. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was great how it accelerated

so quickly. It also reminds people of lockdowns, too. They're evil. They are, for sure. So I guess we're going to get to spoilers a little bit because we have to,

but only to episode two because I haven't seen episode three yet, so people have seen episode three, feel free to spoil it for me if I'm going to spoil the rest for everybody else. But one of the, in the first episode,

what happens is, People start getting infected and they start their brains start linking and I guess the the main character is like a lesbian Is that what it is? Yeah I almost tuned out when I saw that to be honest. I was just like oh Goodness stop I was like I thought it was her publicist and then she's like hey baby and I was like come on guys do you really have to keep doing this kind of stuff This is Trump's America do we need this? No, it's just that it's always ham-fisted yeah like bro if if one in 10 episodes had a gay couple I bet I don't know whatever yeah, but when literally every single show, everyone's gay, and I'm like, we get it, dude, you're gay.

But anyway, her lesbian, significant other dies. And then you find out, spoiler alert, I warned you, you find out 866 million people died in the chemtrail spray mass infection. And she makes this point in one episode, she's like, you never gave anybody a choice. You forced them, and then an eighth of the planet, seven of the planet died. I was thinking we're watching predictive programming roll out right before. our very eyes. Bro, just like Utopia.

I was just going to say, just like Utopia, because that was happening right for COVID, right? Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen Utopia? Bro. You don't know what it's about. So it's...

What is it on? What was it? Amazon? They canceled the show. I know about it. I didn't watch it. They canceled the show because... Not because it was doing well.

They canceled it because people freaked out. All right. So the show Utopia is about a tech billionaire who believes the world is overpopulated. So he makes fake meat and things like that to try and reduce carbon footprint, but it's not working. So he orchestrates a fake pandemic so they can rush through an untested vaccine through Congress and man. It's not a joke. This was before COVID.

It's not a joke to mandate the vaccine to everybody, but secretly the vaccine just sterilizes you. And here's the best part. The characters in the show, there's a comic book. called Utopia that was written by someone who apparently had knowledge of the plot. And when you look at the comic, there's hints as to what they're going to do next in this conspiracy. Isn't that a ridiculous story? I mean, for us, they just rushed through a vaccine and mandated it. And we had a piece of media that laid out exactly what people thought was happening.

So they, for that reason, they canceled the show because people were freaking out about it. Or because people had already seen it. It's like, I know the plot. What if this pluribus thing is the same thing? The AI is going to, bro, this is neuralink. When we're all neuralinked, you might think, actually I'll put it like this. Bro, we're already in this right now. We're already in this right now.

Because with Twitter, you log on. What you see is how you behave. We are in a miniature version of the hive already. Elon could go on X, like Elon and Zuckerberg would get together and be like, make sure people only see corn is the healthiest meal you could possibly ever eat. And then everyone logs on and they keep seeing these videos. Influencers

then say, I want to get a million views. I'm going to make a video about eating corn. And then all of a sudden, everybody's dressed like corn, driving around ethanol corn cars. If they decided that's what they're going to program our minds to be. What happens when you plug our brains in? Isn't the hive we're supposed to be coming together and aren't we like going farther apart? Well, there's two competing. Oh, two competing eyes. What happens? What happens?

That's where everybody gets NERlink implanted. And then you plug your brain in. And now X is happening in a fraction of a second. Instead of you scrolling through, you're seeing everything all at once. To you, to you, inside your own mind, you would feel like an individual. You're just being influenced

and knowing what people are thinking. Outside of the hive, everybody would seemingly be working in unison, maintaining they were individuals while they all march in lockstep. That's what I was kind of over there. Like seeing it the left being like the current thing, people being like the, oh, current, your current thing. That's why I kept thinking of the whole episode, seeing it like the same exact paradigm.

But you're right. It's two separate competing things. On the right, a lot of people have the similarity of thought because of the way Twitter works. But you're right. It takes place in a fraction of a second. You want to know. You know, it's really scary about the show, Pleribus? The human hive, the collection of all human experiences on the planet is a leftist.

Yeah. For real. They're like, we're vegetarians. and we always welcome pleasure. And I'm like, they're degenerate vegans. That's what I thought. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. The hive is literally just woke. And the show came out on the

heels of the news of 3i Atlas, people hearing a signal from it and believing it might have been the wow signal. And then this show came out and then they're hearing the signal, you know, it was pretty weird. And they're trying to decipher it. So when's 3i Atlas supposed to come back like two weeks, right? I don't know. That story kind of died out.

Maybe because I haven't followed. Because it's behind the sun. Well, it was. I think they said it might have changed direction or something or the tail change direction. Last I heard was that it's next going to be visible coming around at beginning of December. All right. So people claimed there was a signal coming from this comet, three eye atlas, but the origin point when they trace back its orbital path is the same vector of the sky where the wow signal came from. Right. So people are like a signal wasn't said in advance. Now this thing is heading our way. Some people are putting out this nonsense saying that once it went

around the sun. We got blasted by this massive G4 coronal mass ejection. But Ben Davidson was like, stop, no, it's not happening. Do any of these people have kids that are doing this? I'm just wondering. My mind shares on how to keep a 7 and a 9-year-old killing each

other and how to grow into great human beings. Where's all the stuff coming from? Well, there's a lot more. You've got a new one, right? Do you think of anything else other than keeping your newborn alive? I don't understand. Sorry for changes the topic, but like, where are people coming up with this stuff? No, but I think that's a great point. The people that are coming up with this likely are not

having kids, right? If you don't have a hopeful outlook for the future, you're not going to have kids. And like having children is a manifestation of belief that there is hope for the future because you wouldn't have kids if not. And we're, you know, the, you know, the reproduction of people isn't happening. Where are our, our, our, our. replacement rate is incredibly low or we're not meeting the replacement rates. So I think that the lack of having families is emblematic of people looking at society and saying, oh, I'm just going to live for me, live for today, because whatever dooms day scenario they prefer, right? Whether it be the seas are going to rise because of global warming or planets on fire,

you listen to kids that are children of left-leaning parents. and they sound like Greta. Remember when they were saying we have 12 years to live? Oh yeah, and this was little kids. 15 years ago. Now she's like, Israel is climate change? Yeah, you got to rebrand. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. But I think that there's some substance to that. People aren't having children. And it's probably feeding, it's probably a self-fulfilling prophecy. Like people don't have kids because they don't have hope for the future. And I think a lot of that is because society has told people, hey, don't have kids. It's better for the environment.

And if you don't have kids, that's a narrative that you see all the time. And I think all these things are connected. Let's show them to this story here. We'll grab one more from the New York Post. Michigan man charged after fatally shooting teen who broke into his garage. Now on the surface, if I'm told someone breaks into his attached garage, part of his house, and he shoots them. I say, well, hold on. That sounds like Castle Docton.

It sounds like self-defense. Well, the story's a little bit more than that. Check this out. I say a Michigan man fatally shot a teen who broke into his garage and is now facing a manslaughter rap. Savon Wilson, 17, was with six other mainly teenagers when the group broke into Dayton-Napton's garage, shortly after 1 a.m. Napton, 24, got an alert from his home security system, grabbed the 9mm, ran outside, and fired two shots into the garage through a windowless door, striking Wilson. As the group fled, Napton fired five more shots before going back to his house, reloading his gun and returning outside, according to a statement. Savon was running away and got shot.

said Sean Madden, Wilson's father. Another teenager in the group was also shot in the leg. The defendant crossed the line by firing outside his home at fleeing persons. So, Savon Wilson is the one who died. But was he shot through the door while in the property illegally? That's the question. If they're saying he should be charged because after he shot the guy, he ran out and shot him as they ran away, I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on. If these dudes are running away and he keeps shooting anyway, he's creating a risk to

everybody in the area. You don't do that. But you're going to charge him for, like, I guess, reckless discharge. Yeah, negligent discharge. I don't know. But if the dude died, well, in his home, because he shot through the door, I don't see that as being manslaughter. I think that any time you're shooting through a door, you don't know for sure what your target is. So that's wrong.

Yes, but what if it's your, there are people who broke into your house. They are currently in your house. they are illegally in your house the issue I take with it is if I'm in my house and someone breaks in and my bedroom door is closed and I can see them walking up to the door and like let's say the circumstances

I literally know no one is supposed to be in my house am I supposed to be like better wait for them to open the door yeah to be honest to make sure that you are are going to have a legal engagement yes because if you shoot through the door

the prosecution is going to say whether or not it's justifiable or whatever is crazy but the prosecution is going to say you could not be sure of the intention of that person no in your house i'm telling you what is it not castle doctrine i'm telling you what the prosecution is going to say i doubt they're going to say that in a castle doctor is it a difference if it's a garage door i think out to an outside of it as opposed to in your house you've again i think if someone's in your house you are always uh in in the right to defend yourself but I'm telling you what the prosecution is going to say to a jury.

They're going to say, he didn't know who was out there. He couldn't have known. He shot through the door. He was reckless. And then you're at the mercy of a jury. So whether or not he was doing the right thing, that's questionable. But I'm telling you that the prosecution will absolutely say you were wrong for shooting through the door.

Right. So my position is. that's insane. Like if I'm at home and somebody let's say this building right now, we watch someone outside, kick the door in,

and we know it's an intruder and they're armed. So we slam this door shut and we see him run up and go to the door and start banging on it. I have to be like, no, no, guys, no, guys. Okay, we clearly saw him enter

and come to the door, but we have to wait for him to get a clear shot on us before we can defend ourselves. What if you didn't see a gun? Somebody, I don't care if I saw if you or anybody saw a gun. Someone breaks onto your property. It is not the fault of the victim to assume that this

person isn't or is trying to kill them. It is an imminent threat against your life if someone breaks into your house. I just can't stand this. You're the victim of someone breaking in your house and you have to give them the opportunity to kill you before you can protect yourself. That seems crazy to me. That's why this story is crazy. Look, I will have no problem saying he shouldn't have ran out the door and shot him as they ran away. That's nuts. But to charge him for shooting through a at people who broke into his house and he's supposed to be like, I'm going to give them an opportunity

to get line of sight on me before I can defend myself in my home. It's like state-mandated duels. No, but look, to do that, you're breaking one of the four fundamental firearms rules. Know your target and what's beyond it. And my point is, if you are in your house in the living room watching TV

and the front door gets kicked open by a raging lunatic who goes, I'm going to kill you. So you run to your bedroom, slam the door shut, grab your gun and point at the door and you see him running up going, y'ar, you're supposed to be like, better let them open the door and see that I'm here before I can defend my home.

That's crazy to me. I'm telling you what the jury is going to say. I'm saying, that is insane. Hopefully you have security cameras so you can prove that you've been attacked, you know, and hopefully that helps. But they're totally still going to use it against you in court. I understand the risk of like if you're in your bedroom and you wake up the middle of the night to footsteps. Don't shoot through the door. Like there are terrible stories of like, you know, a father shot his teenage daughter because she was trying to sneak into the house.

That was the Pistorius case. Exactly. Oh, is that what he claimed? Well, he woke up the fans. He had a bunch of fans, and he was super loud. And he heard commotion in the bathroom. So he goes in there, sees the door shut to the bathroom and just starts shooting through the... Yeah, but I don't believe that first thing is...

Also South Africa, so it's like, there's probably a criminal in there at all time. Was he in South Africa? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Another thing, if there's someone coming towards your room or whatever and you were in a room, that's the opportunity for you to get an angle on them, right? You shouldn't be standing in front of the door. You get an angle.

The normal person doesn't know. Pardon me? I just, I'm, if you own a gun, you should probably have an idea how to engage someone else with the gun. If you're going to have a gun for a home gun. I'm just glad I'm a garage.

I'm tired of these stories where a criminal caused a fight and the homeowner is the one who gets punished. Absolutely. I'm a hundred percent of agreement with you. Again, this guy ran outside and started shooting again. It's like, bro. Don't do that.

But there's a security guard we talked about that they're trying to put it, put in prison because a criminal tried charging past him and he grabbed him. And then the criminal was on top of him punching him in the face. And when he shot the guy, they charged the security guy with murder. Oh, yeah, that ain't right. I mean, it's Albuquerque. You live in a communist state.

That's what you get. But, you know, I've already tweeted that, like, I would be willing to help that guy with his legal defense in whatever capacity I could. So, this is, this is the challenge, I suppose. What happens to this country when we have expanding anarchist? tyranny. This is in Michigan. And I wonder if the only reason they're actually charging him is he chased after him. But at the same time, there's also this.

At a certain point, people just say no. And when you got, what was it, what did they say, six teens or whatever? Six other. Seven dudes breaking to his house. This guy probably just snapped and said, I'm done with it. Like, people are getting fed up with being told it's the criminals who are the victims.

There was a case in Tennessee. I want to say in Memphis some dude was breaking into another dude's car and dude chased him down the street and the dude fell and he walked up and he popped him and the jury said not guilty

because they were tired of all of the people behaving that way. It was a very famous case. The guy in most circumstances people would say that it was an execution but the crime had gotten so out of hand in Memphis. They were just like, he's not guilty. But people also don't understand that,

you know, I've seen videos where two guys are fighting and then one guy will, will immediately disengage from the other guy like the fight breaks and then he pulls his gun and starts shooting him. And the comments are like, he wasn't even fighting anymore. The threat was over. And it's like, dude, these people understand that someone is trying to kill you, you don't know if they're going to pull a knife or a gun. And so if there is a reasonable fear of threat, I think is what, what is it called imperfect self-defense in some of these circumstances

where maybe you weren't really being threatened but you perceived one so you were entitled to your self-defense. Well that's just the whole thing is people are just completely disengaged from violence because like we have such a in many ways like a lot of people are insulated from violence this is the whole Daniel Penny thing is like there's somebody people

that couldn't wrap their head around like oh no he was just like yelling on the train and it's like because so many people are just completely removed from actual violence it's like no that guy was about to snap it anymore. I think we're dealing you know it's the funny thing with that show Plerbus we were just

talking about. In that show, the hive is like all-knowing and reasonable and like, we just want you to be safe. But in real life, the woke hive is like, let the criminals succeed. And you're like, why are you so evil? I actually think the hive would be evil. Yeah. It has to, would be evil. Yeah, absolutely. It pretends to be nice, though. Yeah, but they, like in the show, they like, will give you anything you want. We'll fly a helicopter in. They'll bring you a jet to fly anywhere you want in the world, all that stuff. It's like, they also massacred a billion people. Right. And I think maybe that's what it turned out to be that they're actually tricking them or whatever. Right. I mean, it's like left us today. A lot of politicians will give you paradise.

But to get to that paradise, there's a lot of violence and destruction has to happen. It's not really nice. A thousand dollar tariff chapters. It's not paradise. In their terms, it's paradise. I honestly don't think they're offering. I think Mom Dani is just basically saying like, hey, I'm going to steal their money and give it to you and then this is one will burn down, but at least you'll get some before it goes. That's the sentiment that people have now. Like, the people that are on the left that are like, no, you should give us these benefits or whatever. You talk to them and they're always,

well, the billionaires have done this, the billionaires have done that. Billionaires have done nothing to make your life worse. Rating this. I swear up and down that billionaires have heard. They all use Amazon too, by the way. Yeah, exactly. This is the worrying thing going in 2026

is the leftist apparatus may be routed with like the closing of USAID, but we still have judges, we still have DAs who have been heavily funded, by leftist organizations. Just because USAID and these slush trends were shut down doesn't mean that we've actually stopped the problem of these people who already got elected

or are already on the bench for life or however long they're going to be. And they've been funded by, even outside of USAID and other things, you've got open society, Soros' thing. They're all still there. So in order to get past this anarcho tyranny stuff

like we're seeing, is it just a matter of time before we route them? Are they going to hold these positions forever? Like, what does this mean for us? That's going to be, it's going to be an ongoing struggle. Just like the founder said, you know, liberty, or like Ben Franklin said, a republic if you can keep it. It's a constant, ongoing thing. As much as people will criticize Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was right when he said liberty is never for more than a generation away from dying.

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And you know what I really love about this game? I learned I'm one of the best professional racers. And if I was in NASCAR, I'd win first place every time. Because what I found out is when I'm driving and there's someone in front of me, I just do what's called the pit maneuver and cause them to crash and spam. You play Mario Kart too. Exactly. Check this out.

Look at this. Sick. Cody Dennison, Timcast car. Look at that. Yo, let's take this one out. We've got one. It's the same as the other one up there, right? Oh, this is the truck?

Oh, we got the truck now, too. Look at this. Look at this bad boy. The maximum truck series. Isn't that sweet? Amazing. The Timcast truck. Man, how lucky are we?

Shout out. So I don't understand why Cody doesn't just do this, right? When you're coming up on the other car, you nudge their back, and they just spin out and crash, and then you win. Throw a banana peel? Yeah. Well, I don't know about that. I just, I was playing. I know you can't literally pit maneuver people.

people in NASCAR. That's all I was doing. And the game, like, I didn't get in trouble for it. You cut a corner and the car stops and it's like you cut a corner, you get penalized. But when you pit maneuver people, they just crash. I was like, I like this game. It's fun. Hidden tactic, yeah. If you're not rubbing, you're not racing. Sure, trade me. All right. What do we got to hear? Libertarian Hawks says, Surge or someone put this prompt into GROC. Compare interest paid on a 30-year mortgage at 6% versus 50-year mortgage at 6% on 300,000 simple answer. All right, I'll do this.

it. It's a lot of money. It's like what an extra million dollars or something? Probably. I feel like what they're going to say is that overall the payments will be cheaper and more affordable. We'll see what they say. Uh, total interest paid on 30 years is 347. On 50 years, it's 713,000. Yeah. True. An extra $365,000. The argument is though, and I'm not a fan of dear mortgages. The argument is you keep the equity in your house. And that debt doesn't matter over 50 years because when you buy the house, at, let's say you buy the house at 300k, by 50 years later, that house is going to be worth $3 million because of inflation. Yeah.

So your payment will be nothing, and you'll hold millions of dollars in equity. Of course, that million will be equivalent to $400,000. But, you know, you get the point. Yeah. I'm not a fan of the idea, to be honest. I don't think it's that good idea. If you look at the amount of money you're saving a monthly payment, that's what people are saying is, like, why it's better.

It's $1,000 over 20 years, guys. Yeah. And a 50 year and a 30 year is not going to have the same interest rate. Yeah. The 50 years gonna have a higher interest. Bro, it only saves you $100 a month.

Right. Look at it. It's not much money at all. It's a terrible argument. Everything I've heard that argues for, I'm like, that just doesn't make sense, bro. I got an idea. How about it's out of ownership we do a 99-year lease on the property?

Oh, I wonder where you got that idea. All right, what I got here? Hans says, the stock market can run out of any city. New York City needs to learn that they are no, they are no longer are where capital is king. as capital can move anywhere. Yeah, well, they're doing Texas, right? Yeah, tech dials. Yep.

So, NYC, goodbye. Han says, I don't need real housewives of politics that Candace brings to politics. She gets those female viewers, man. I've been telling people, they need to pay attention to what she's doing because I've bumped into just like women in like random places who are, well, I don't want to get too specific because I don't want to out anybody, but I was at an event. Someone was there, and she's just like, you've got to listen to Candace. she's right about everything. And she was a liberal. It was like a liberal woman.

Yeah, no joke. And I think it's the Israel thing, especially. Even Anna Kasparin was saying it. She's like, you know, I don't agree with Knessan a lot, but I've been watching her. And man, well, that's how you get these liberal viewers. You say, listen, you're a liberal. We don't like you, but Israel. And they say, okay, I'll watch.

It's like confirmation bias thing. Mason says, Tim, is a problem with your anti-Luddite revolt theory, is that the only people still having children are those most likely to revolt against the AI revolution. that's literally the point that people were convinced not to have children so there would be no one physically present to revolt I think what he's saying though is the ones who are still having children

are the ones who would revolt right right right but it doesn't matter because the birth rate is so low there aren't any people but it's the elites that are not having the children it's the the poor who are having children I think the elites are having kids I don't think so The elites have a lot of kids.

It depends what you're talking about. Some of them are purchasing children. Some of them are creating them in labs. Well, it could just be, it could just be honestly that among the elites, they're so few that Elon has skewed the average. Angus Khan. These are digital gangas con. There's a data point. It's like above 500K.

They actually have like a pretty normal version. Let me clarify. I understand the point you're making. Right now, anti-AI people are having kids. My point is that's because they programmed people to not have kids. Yeah. Unless you want a Tamagotchi, because that's what they're building for you in the metaverse. Those were so much fun.

I'm going to head out. This is a really fun show. You guys can catch me on Inverted World live at 10 o'clock for the first 20 or 30 minutes. I'm going to have on a guest to talk about all the data centers and the weird companies buying them up in secret around the country. And then for about an hour and a half, we're going to take phone calls. Phone lines are open until midnight and call in, talk about anything from cryptids, aliens, military abductions. We do it all. No theme.

Just weird, dark, crazy stories. Anyone can call in. Love to hear from you. and I'll see you guys next time. All right. Later, brother. You, bud. Good meets, bro.

You're right. All right. It's a higher the income, the more fertility. Yeah. You're right. Yeah, I thought it was... I thought it was the opposite. No, yeah, yeah.

The ultra-relates are having tons of kids. Well, the actual fertility among lower-income people would be high, but abortion is like very prevalent, the line of the spectrum. Jay Walker says to care of the tradition, my son, Dean, was just born. Yeah. 10 pounds, two-ounce baby. Happy to care on the tradition. Sending this from the recovery room.

Condolences to your wife. Wow. Travis Booth says, as per tradition, my wife and I are at the hospital with our first baby that was born over the weekend. Children are truly a blessing. Two in a row. Wait a minute.

What? Nick R. says doing the Tim Krat tradition of sitting in the hospital room while my wife gives birth of my son Jackson Lee. Three in a row. Look at that. No joke. That's three in a row right there on making kids.

Can you ask them how much money they make? We'll see if this fertility thing cold. Yeah. They're all millionaires. No, I'm kidding. Ian Slater says, Schrodinger's Epstein list. Aha.

Ben Brady says, could it be that what we are seeing Trump do now is what he meant to do months ago if Bondi didn't botch the job so bad? I have no idea. It's like, Trump's now like, go ahead, release the Epstein files. I'm like, I got no idea what's going on, dude.

He talked, he said to release them weeks ago months ago and the courts stopped him. So the Congress is supposedly going to vote or was going to vote to override the courts. Maybe that's what he's betting on. Maybe. He's like, fine, release it, but the courts are going to block it anyway. Yeah. Yep. All right. Eat and Rustes bets on if the AI claims to be the second coming. Nah. The AI will lie to you about everything. Oh my, my, dude. If you are a weak-willed or like midwit, a bigot person or a midwit, you will fall for the lies every single time. So when I was doing an earlier segment on the, what was it about, it was, it overlapped

the Candace stuff, the Thomas Crooks, they, them stuff and the Candace claims about Robinson, I asked Grock if Candace had ever implied that Turning Point was involved in Charlie Kirk's death. And it responded with, Candace Owens has never on her show, on social media, or otherwise explicitly claimed turning point killed Charlie Kirk. And I'm like, I literally said implied, not explicit, implicit. And it went, oh, it literally changed the question I asked to give me a fake answer. And then it changed it to yes, she did imply that. I'm not saying she did, but Grock certainly is. So, you know, maybe she's going to have to sue Grock.

All right, what else we got? Doubles says General Motors told their suppliers they have until 2027 to quit getting parts from China. The tariffs are working. Yep, because the costs are too dang high. All right, what do we got to you? Bra says AI isn't going to replace any job. If anything, the jobs are going to be replaced by Indians and Orientals. USS Liberty, 1967, never forget.

Orientals. Nice. I'm a fan of that. I prefer being called Oriental. I don't understand why anyone's offended by it. That's some intrigue, you know? Yeah. What is...

It just means like the mysterious place or something. It's just the orient of the map. When you orient the map, it's at the top. The Occident is the West. Oh, really? Yeah. That's it? Yeah.

But it adds some aura. Why is it offensive? Because the West is offended by everything. He doesn't have a phone. I was walking with my wife and we had the stroller and the car was parked, you know, outside of the store and to the right. And she said, we shouldn't go that way because there's no slope. The only slope is right here. And I said, excuse me?

That's what got, that's what got Jeremy Clarkson in a ton of trouble. Is it what slope? Jeremy Clarkson, he was like, they were doing a Vietnam special and two Vietnamese guys were walking like a bridge that was tilts. And he's like, that bridge, it has a bit of a slope on it. He like got fired for it But my wife was like What? And I said It's a joke. And she was like, what's the joke?

And I was like, slope is the racial slur? She's having to teach her slur? She's too pure. She's too pure. Teaching your wife slurs. I said that is a racial slur for Asians And I am an Asian. I was joking. And she was like, oh, I didn't know that. The baby stroller can't go off the curb,

it has to go down the slope. And I said, okay. Your wife is too pure. That's hilarious. She hadn't heard that one. She hadn't heard that one, but maybe now that she knows, I can use those jokes. I said, hey, look, the rules are that if you are of that race, you're allowed to say it, right? It's true.

Yeah. So you're just a bunch of white guys. So you're allowed to say honky and Cracker. Honkies. That's right. What does that even mean? I don't know what honky means. Cracker, the joke or the common etymology is the whip, but it's actually not true.

No, I think that's made up. It was like referring to poor Irish guys. They always laugh in the back of cars or back of wagons. I heard it was, you know what a cracker barrel is? These old country stores would have big barrels full of like saltine crackers or whatever. And there'd be like a white guy sitting in a rocking chair. And that's why it's called Cracker Barrel. And I heard it's because white people like eating dry crackers.

And Memphis, a lot of the old black people will call you, what was it, Peckerwoods? Peckerwoods was like, I don't know, that's just sort of white people. You know what I don't believe the cracker means whipcracker is that it is a leftist's. a leftist perception that all slavery was field slavery of people being beaten. They ignore the fact that slaves worked every job they could be made to work. And so I don't know what portion of it was, you know, whip-cracking slave work. But that seems like an exaggeration from a leftist to try and malign white people. You know?

Yeah, for sure. Yep. All right, let's see what we got here. Millennial Mama says dividends right before the midterms would be nice. That's the plan, I think. Trump's going to be like, right before the midterms, the Republicans are going to pay you $2,000. It's going to be great.

Vote for us because if we don't win, you don't get paid. Yeah, everyone's like, I wonder when they're going to drop them. Like, you knew around here? You know what? I say this. I advise Trump to do it. Literally in end of October, be like, we have the tariffs ready to be paid and it'll be paid at the end of November.

But, you know, if Democrats win, maybe they won't do it. They'll shut the tariffs down. I think that's his play. And then everyone's going to be like, I want $2,000. I will vote for Trump. Because that's where we are as a country now. That's where we are. It is.

Purchase the vote. The Yeti says, Tim, I don't have a Twitter, but I would get one for this. Do you think it would be effective if people like you, Alex Jones, and all, what does it say? All, enter, oh, generally. On our side could agree on one thing at a time and mass tweet until we gain traction. I don't believe that it's possible. I don't believe it would work. I think that people

typically are focused you know, there's the news cycle and we don't really know what people are going to be interested in every week. You'll try and then I make three videos, one gets massive. I'm like, wow, I didn't see that coming.

This one people really wanted to watch and YouTube promote it for whatever reason. If all of us just spam tweeted the same thing, people would be bored and they'd go follow somebody else. Yeah. Just like discourse, but everyone just agrees with everything. The culture war, you just agree for two hours? Like, so true. Oh, we've got a big one this Friday.

Oh, yeah, true. What do we got? Let me check real quick. This Friday's culture war is, uh, we've got, oh, wait, not this Friday. Oh, yeah, yeah, this Friday, this Friday. Joel Berry and Aaron McIntyre. Nice. That's going to be spicy.

Yeah. It's going to be very interesting. Yep, I look forward to it. Because, uh, James Lindsay is going to add it again. but he deserves to be called out because he's nuts. He called me a Marxist plant. Good grief. He's lost the plot.

He finds, like, tweets with, like, three likes on it and, like, hit the tax him. I'm like, what is he doing all day? From me? No, just, like, I just see, like, random, like, people I follow, and it's, like, three likes, and he's in there going at it. I'm like, what? This is why the Friday show is going to be interesting with, you know, Arn McIntyre and Joel Berry is because James Lindsay has now been championing the point.

that the phrase woke right is intended to be an alternate form of alt-right as a general smear against any conservative to malign them as a white supremacist. So everybody knows this. Here was the game plan from liberals back in the day. The phrase alt-right was being thrown around and nobody really knew what it meant. But it was typically being applied by liberals and conservatives as you didn't like neocons. If you are conservative but critical of McCain and Mitt Romney, you are the alt-right. You were an alternative for the right.

Well, what happened then is the AP waited for everyone to come out and claim they were alt-right, basically saying, we don't want any neocons. We're Trump. And then the AP said, alt-right means white nationalist. Liberals then went back in time and grabbed old posts where people said they were alt-right, juxtaposed it with the AP and said they admit their white nationalists. That was the manipulation plan. Then they called anybody they didn't like alt-right. That's literally what Lindsay and this cohort, these people I've been doing, they're calling everybody woke right. They called Mary Morgan woke right.

And I'm like, she's not commented on any, like, she's commenting, the most she does comment on dating and like relationships and it's pop culture. And that's woke right. It's just nuts. It's basically, if you don't ally with the liberal or pro-Israel world order or moral worldview, you are woke right. And now he's actually tweeting it's to be interchangeable with alt-right so we can lump all of these people in one group and attack them.

It's like, oh, so you're lying. You're woke. That's not super commie, by the way. That's literally communist. It's the worst containment ever we're trying to contain the entire movement. That's what they did the first time, though. Yeah.

Everybody was called Alt-Right, even if you were a libertarian. Yeah. In the basket. Yep. Plurable basket. Exactly. People were asking to the plurables.

A lot of, I haven't talked to Jim about this, but I feel like a lot of it was his desire to make sure that the Christian conservatives didn't gain too much influence because there are Christians that were like, we need to have a theocracy. We need to have more Christian influence and the government and stuff. And Jim is vehemently against that. Even though he's not, he wouldn't consider himself like the same kind of new atheist that he used to be. Like that was the motive.

He didn't want to see the Christian right take over the MAGA movement. Yeah, there is a huge, like when the Christian nationalism stuff was really kicking off. Like, people came really unglued over that in particular. And it's like, that's one of the ideologies where, like, the tenants are actually, like, fairly sensible compared to, like, a lot of these more insurgent ideology. So it was like, that was a mask off moment for a lot of people. Like, when they were like Doug Wilson's, like, extremist. He just, like, has, he has the politics of, like, everyone's grandparents. Joseph Noe says Candace Owen's show success is owed to her Robert Stack Unsolved Mysteries vibe.

you can help us solve the mystery just missing the 80s synth music well again she's been big forever right even when she was doing political commentary she's just a personality of people like watching whatever it may be so I don't know that I necessarily agree

although man those were the best shows but I liked the UFO ones and the ghosts better than like the murder mysteries you know I liked it better when it was like a man disappeared and a strange lights women always love murder mysteries women just want to hear about men who murdered other women.

There's a lot of... My girl, she just watches murder constantly. It's all... And I'm starting to think that she's plotting to kill me. I just... You know, it's funny because, like, you got these red pill dudes who are like, man, women only want one thing, and this is what they're gold diggers,

and I'm like, no, no, no, no. My beef, I have no beef with women wanting resources from strong men. That's evolution. I do take issue with women's obsession over murder. Yeah. That is creepy and I don't want to be involved in that You just read about women's psychology for like a minute

And you're like enough enough Unfortunately for me My wife is not interested in those things She's more interested in married to strangers What is that interesting? Bro, there's like 50 seasons of this show Have you ever seen it? They got a bunch of them

Yeah they do these reality shows Where they like take two strangers And make them get married Oh geez India It's just India Basically It is kind of a horror show I guess 90 day fiance

And like what's the other one That was a big one Yeah, what's the, there's more. Honey Day Fiancee is awesome. That's good. I mean, I never watched a full episode, but like the TikToks. I'm like, this is great. These guys are winning. You know what I'm talking about, married to strangers. It's like the same idea, yeah.

TLC, TLC Americans, there's a lot of them. All right, what do we got here? Tony Soprano says, I have a message to the mainstream media, STFU about COVID already. Sadie is 100% tired of it. Stop flogging a dead horse and move on. Who's talking about COVID? I guess Tony's around. Oh.

Interesting. All right. Richard Cadwell says as a tradition I'm in the hospital with wife has delivered our third daughter Let's go. A lot of babies tonight. A little mini baby boom. Let's go.

Wow. Well done, Patriots. So we're going to be going to the uncensored portion of the show where we'll have a bit of a serious conversation. There's a story here from the Sacramento Bee which we'll talk about in more detail

but I will just say a Timcast.com discord member took his own life and I suppose blew up his home. He blew it up, taking his life and destroying the property. And we'll discuss, you know, basically what happened. And there's more details on this. Sacramento Bee has the story.

I was just informed of this today. It's a little tragic. So we'll keep this one for the uncensored portion of the show. So head over to rumble.com slash Timcast. IRL for that portion of the show. Join our Discord server at Timcast.com. If you want to call in. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

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