Timcast IRL - Democrats FURIOUS Over Kill Tony Puerto Rico Joke At Trump MSG Rally w/James O'Keefe

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Tim, Mary, & Ian are joined by James O'Keefe to discuss Democrats losing their minds over Tony Hinchcliffe's jokes at a Trump rally, Democrats calling Trump a Nazi for holding a rally in NYC, FBI investigating the destruction of a ballot box & ballots burned, and Jeff Bezos blocking the Washington Post's endorsement of Kamala Harris. James O'Keefe is an investigative journalist and activist known for his undercover work, often exposing controversial practices within organizations and institutions. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Mary @PopCultureCrisis   Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump held a massive rally at Madison Square Garden. It's not the first time a political rally has been held there. You may remember the shocking Democrat National Convention in 1992, or I think Jimmy Carter also accepted the nomination in the late 70s. So it's not particularly weird at all that a political rally would be held at Madison Square Garden. But of course, MSNBC is saying that it was a Nazi rally and the Democrats are all running out screaming that Trump is Hitler. I guess that's the October surprise because that's the only thing they have eight days out from the election. But OK, whatever. But anyway, at that rally, Tony Hinchcliffe of Kill Tony made several off color jokes and everybody's mad about it. Actually, a bunch of Republicans are mad about it. But I think all the middle of the road people who are supporting Trump really don't care that Tony Hinchcliffe said that there's an island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. I think it's called Puerto Rico. He's making a joke. It's subverting your expectations. They're losing their minds over this. And well, I think it's all they've got. It's kind of sad, but it's all they got. So we'll talk about that. Then we've got this crazy story out of Portland and Washington where ballot boxes were torched.

This time, it's legit. There's video from local news outlets. Somebody threw explosives in a ballot box. I can only imagine more shenanigans is going to happen like this. A bunch of court rulings have come in about whether or not mail-in votes can be accepted. Of course, in Mississippi, we got the ruling that if the ballot comes day of or after, I'm sorry, if the ballot comes after, even if it's postmarked day of, no good. It's illegal. But now Nevada is saying, actually, if it's not done properly, it can be brought in within three days of the election. And in Pennsylvania, Republicans lost.

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on Apple Podcasts. And obviously, joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else, it's James O'Keefe. Hello, Tim. James, who are you? A lot to talk about. A lot going on in the world. Yeah, you're going to be covering Plush by stunt double pilots i'm going to be i'm excited mostly about that i love i love music and dancing and joy well it's not allowed you're not allowed to do that not allowed not allowed yeah there's yeah a lot of you've had a couple really big stories recently and one of them was that some election official was yelling at you for dancing yeah that was the video it's not the real story but no but it's always the reaction to the action that's actually the most interesting. And this is in Maricopa County.

This this we have like 200 people recording inside poll locations. And this story wasn't even that big of a story. It was just I wanted them to know that we're on the inside. And the Maricopa County election officials like freaked out. And one of them started attacking the fact that I dance. Well, have you considered not dancing it's just completely bizarre you you can moonwalk really well i can moonwalk i can break dance i've done oklahoma but a lot of republicans don't like this about me i don't understand why they were attacking the democratic convention they were dancing since when you know communists attack dancing so i't, I don't quite understand that one,

but then you've got another movie coming out or you have a movie that came out already, right? Line in the sand. Line in the sand is, is a, is a big one. And it took me a year. So we can talk about that. We got to talk about it. Cause I was getting riled up watching it. Uh, I'll just say it before we move on to Ian, of course, when you showed all of these people who know they're doing something wrong and you can see the look on their face and they always respond with, well, I'm just doing my job, which literally translates to I know what I'm doing is wrong. I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, I'd like to bring in trafficking. We'll get into all this stuff.

Ian's hanging out. I guess it makes you a quintuple threat. You're a musician, actor, dancer, director and journalist. That's maybe why. And DJ. Oh, and DJ, a sextuple threat to my right over here, James O'Keefe, ladies and gentlemen. Happy to be here, guys. Ian Crossland in the house. Let's rock and roll, Mary. Big fan of oligarchy, by the way. Oh, you know that one. Yeah, that one's

a bop. I like that. I should introduce myself, though. My name is Mary. You will usually find me on a show called Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast, but I'm happy to be back on IRL. James just lit up. He's like, you know my song. I was like, I just want to talk about music the whole time. We can do that. Let's do that. Wait, is Bop, is that a Gen Z term? Bop, well, it's actually gone through an evolution where it kind of means the same thing as thought

now. Is it like the Riz? But it used to mean a really good song. Okay. The Riz? Not the same thing. Not the same. I don't even know these Gen Z terms.

You have the Riz. You're old. That means for the record. Are you feeling the Riz? I am feeling the Riz? Not the same thing. I don't even know these Gen Z terms. You have the Riz. You're old. That means charisma. For the record. Are you feeling the Riz? I am feeling the Riz. Every time he walks in the room, yeah. Also you, Mary.

You're holding it down. You got the Riz as well. All right, let's jump to the first story. We've got this from the BBC. Backlash after comedian at Trump rally calls Puerto Rico an island of garbage. Tony Hinchcliffe is a hilarious guy. Kill Tony's a massive show. It's wildly successful.

And it's ridiculous that they're, you know what this is? Let me just put it this way. They can't go after Dave Chappelle in much the same way. He's too big. They can't go, they try to go after Joe Rogan, but he's too big. Tony's relatively new. I mean, I don't act like he's just completely new, but Kill Tony is skyrocketing. It's not Dave Chappelle levels yet, but he did sell out Madison Square Garden, I think twice. So they're banking off of people

not knowing who he is. What they're doing now is Tony Hinchcliffe opens this rally with comedy. He rags on everybody. It's what comedy comedians do. But you now see Geraldo Rivera, you see the view. They're trying to make it seem like Donald Trump himself called Puerto Rico an island of garbage. But let me play for you what Tony actually said. It is absolutely wild times. It really, really is. And, you know, there's a lot going on. Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now.

Yeah. I think it's ocean right now. Yeah. I think it's called Puerto Rico. Okay. All right. You got mixed laughing and jeers. A bunch of Republicans are actually mad about this, too. They're saying that it's a mistake in the 11th hour to bring an insult comic at the biggest political rally to close out your campaign by insulting everyone

it's gonna get weaponized i'm i'm working i don't know i mean i i he's a he does the uh roasts it strikes me as a roast comic is that is that the appropriate place for roast comic i don't i don't know it's unconventional right i don't do you think it was a mistake to have this guy at a political rally it's tough call tony i mean geez it is he's like the hardest core not hardcore comedian i i think this was baron baron was like you got to get tony inchcliffe yep baron so we've been saying for a long time like trump needs to go on kill tony but that's different that's trump ragging on people too that's him sitting around with a bunch of guys and everyone's making jokes. I think what happens is they're like, OK, well, we don't got time. It's the campaign. Barron probably said, kill Tony is huge. Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, you got to do these shows. And so they said, let's get Tony Hinchcliffe to do comedy at

the at Madison Square Garden. And I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was funny. I heard this before the backlash and I just laughed. And after that, he's like, oh, OK, you're getting it now. I'm not used to following the national anthem. Right. And it's it's Tony, you know, doing his Tony. Maybe it was. Maybe it was. I don't know if you call it a mistake, but maybe it's like you don't have a roast insult comic right before the most heated political. Yeah, I guess I guess the argument is if it cost Trump even a single vote, was it worth it? And Trump can't get any more famous, so drawing eyeballs isn't...

But I don't think it hurt him or helped him. I mean, remember in 2016 how saying, as Joe Rogan pointed out, saying all that crazy shit kind of actually helped him because it made him more authentic. So I don't think it helps him lose a vote or gain a vote. I think it keeps it neutral. It's both?

I kind of feel like anybody who's planning on voting for Trump because World War III is about to start or because they can't afford grocery bills is not going to be swayed by an opening comic making an off-color joke. But more importantly, is the joke funny? It's an insult. It's a roast joke. Are these roast things funny? If it's funny, that means it has a seed of truth in it. Well, have you seen this guy roast Kim Kardashian? I'm not even going to say it on the air what he said,

but have you seen what he said at these roasts? I'm not saying it. So I'm due Tom Brady really hard. You can play it. Yeah, you can play it. I don't know that it's necessarily so much that it has to have a seed of truth. I think it was a subversion of expectation, right? There's a lot going on, and you think he's talking about the Pacific garbage patch,

and then he says, Puerto Rico. And that's more like ribbing on your buddy. Like, if I say Ian's like a crazy hippie, you know, it's like an exaggeration of what Ian actually is or whatever, to whatever degree. Like, if we mention Ian's doing DMT or whatever, Ian actually doesn't do DMT. He just looks like it. I have done DMT. So it's not that it's true to say, like, Ian actually doesn't do DMT. He just looks like it. I have done DMT.

So it's not that it's true to say, like, Ian snorts graphene. It's not true. It's just true that Ian likes it, and so we're making fun of him by hyper-exaggerating what it is that he does. You don't want to breathe that stuff in, though. No, you don't. But the thing is, Puerto Rico wasn't in the room to defend himself. Who is this Puerto Rican Trump supporter in the crowd who's like, that's it. I'm throwing down my MAGA hat. I'm done.

They're still going to vote for Trump. It's not a person that exists. Yeah. Am I allowed to play this clip of him roasting if it's a little obscene? This is the other row. I just texted it to you. What is it? Let me.

It's a quote. If liberals can't handle a little comedy from a comedian, this will surely melt their minds. It's him at this roast. It's a minute and a half long. I watched it. It's a roast comedy. You know, I don't. Well, maybe if we don't know what it is. Yeah, it's a little. Considering we're a minute and a half long. I watched it. It's a roast comedy, you know? Well, maybe if we don't know what it is, considering we're a week out from the election.

It's a little raunchy. Then we'll save it for the members only after you sing Plush by Stone Temple Pilots. Sounds good. I'm not kidding. He's going to sing. I'm going to sing. We played it before the show. I got to unlock the guitar. You know, let me pull up the Polymarket, actually. So polymarket is the closest you can get to real time sentiment or predictions. And Trump said 66 percent to win.

I don't think anyone cares. You know, and look, no disrespect to Tony. I don't think anyone cares. They're desperately trying to make this an issue to care about. And what I'm seeing is like the Krasensteins, of course, they were like, oh, I can't believe you would make this joke. And I'm like, bro, are you kidding? And then he was one of them responded. What would I say if Kamala Harris had a comic who came out and said something shocking and off putting? I don't know. How about this? Donald Trump said he was going to build a wall. And George Lopez said, you better build it in one day because if you leave that material out there overnight...

What's gonna happen, George? What's gonna happen? What happens if you leave your material right on the Mexican border? What's the implication there, George? Are you implying it's gonna be stolen? This is a Harris-Waltz rally in Arizona. And yes, literally the joke is that Mexicans will steal your stuff.

I don't care. That was a good joke. Cancel that white lady in the back who's laughing. Oh, wait. Whoa, there's a white lady laughing? There's two of them. Two. No, three.

That's three. You can cancel them now. And look at she's covering her face because she knows she's going to get canceled for laughing. This is it. The view goes on this extended tirade where they're freaking out. And they're and Sonny Hostin is like this Puerto Rican. Donald Trump believes that Puerto Rico is beautiful. And it's like Trump didn't even say it.

The Trump campaign said the joke does not represent their campaign or whatever. And I think, you know, you know what, man, maybe the appropriate response from the Trump campaign would have been to just respond by saying, and I quote, Donald Trump said he was going to build a wall. And George Lopez said, you better build it in one day, because if you leave that material out there overnight. That's just should have been the exact response with the quote and the video and been like, here you go. So they're acting like they're mad at Trump. It's just fake. It's all fake. Yeah, it's all fake. And people want authenticity and they're seeing reading between the lines. And that's why Trump's doing so well, just like he did in 2016. But you have Republicans coming out being like, oh, I can't believe that.

Because I think those Republicans crave to be liked by the powers that be. It's an opportunity to get your name in the New York Times and it's an incentive for you to be, you know, get a little dig in on your friends. I imagine too, these Republicans don't dance. Definitely they don't dance. They gotta loosen up.

Why are you dancing? Why are you singing stick to politics you had a guy say that to you that's my voice for women and critics who are these people that hate your music I think a lot of people don't like that I sing and dance I did this musical Oklahoma and people were just viciously

attacked be serious people don't understand journalism is an art like I don't think you could be a very good storyteller without having a kind of a People were just viciously attacked. Be serious. People really understand journalism is an art. Like, I don't think you could be a very good storyteller without having a kind of a rhythm and a sense of music and timing and cadence and all these things. So we need more dancing and singing, in my opinion, in politics. But you don't see that very often. I think that's 100%. That's, God willing, what I've been doing on this show for four years, just lightening

it up a little bit, because it's so easy to get angry and forget. Like, I think a lot of cultures have said that the canaries in the coal mine when it comes to the political violence in the political realm is the comedians. Like if the comedians start to get demonized, you're in a world of hurt. You're in a real bad place. We've been there for a long time. You can see people trying to do it. They tried to demonize rogan with the whole horse-paced stuff cnn and he kind of just like water off a duck's back kept moving forward because he's a strong man and you need you need people to be able to weather this stuff and not like self-cancel and be like i'm sorry i won't make jokes anymore so this is kind of a moment for tony where and and all the people around tony like what are we going to do i think he's

insulated in in a safe and strong enough position where he can keep doing what he does and not take it personally AOC was on a stream with Tim Waltz and I'll just play a little bit of it for you because no one really wants to hear them talk for a long time let's try and get it to play we're getting there

is it freezing who is that jackwad who is that guy actually I think that's Tony Hinchcliffe which is super disappointing. I mean, he's a comedian. What's disappointing about it? Everybody knows what Tony does. That's why he was invited to do comedy here. What is she disappointed about?

I don't follow this like pretty very closely. Puerto Rico again. I saw it. This was what, when he went down after Helene, the horrific hurricane, people that Rico, it was absolutely horrific down there, insulting people, throwing it. Look, I know that the folks who are on here today understand this. People in Puerto Rico are citizens. They pay taxes. They serve in the military at almost a higher rate than anybody else. Yeah. I mean, it's like super upsetting. Obviously, it's super upsetting to me. My family is from Puerto Rico. I'm Puerto Rican. And like the thing.

You see, here's the point I want to make by showing this. She knows she's in a difficult position to communicate to young people why you can't have fun and make jokes. Yeah, there's a there's an element of artifice in politics. And we turn the channel and watch it and watch a raunchy show and it's acceptable. So that's the thing. There's a lack of equilibrium between these different platforms. That's why I don't think this stuff really matters. I think that people are just they just can't pay for groceries. And right. So just, you know, but I think beyond that, if you're if you're 18 or 19 and you're not even necessarily in the workforce yet, maybe you're still in school, you're listening to

Rogan and you're laughing. You're goofing off. These young guys are going out and they're whacking each other in the balls and then laughing about it. They're taking their towels and then whipping each other and goofing. And she's going like,

oh, it's really disappointing. It's upsetting to hear this. But I feel like the reason she's not doing the heavy outrage like The View is doing is because she knows she's supposed to be Democrats communicating to younger people who are going to respond with, are you really mad about this? Do you think she actually believes what she's saying? No, absolutely not. That's the problem. It's a lack of authenticity. She has to mix. I'm a Democrat, so I have to be mad with I'm also a

young person and I'm supposed to be edgy. And you just that's why she's like, it's upsetting. Yeah. Yeah. Because she probably loves Tony. I get the just that's why she's like it's upsetting yeah yeah because she probably loves tony i get the vibe that she thinks he's hilarious as a comedian and now she's like oh i gotta i gotta crap on this guy it's hinchcliffe he sold out madison square garden twice and she's gonna rag on him these guys she's screwed in new york in this same interview they're talking about how did you hear there's an ebola outbreak after trump worked at McDonald's? Oh, yeah, he got Ebola on his hands, like joking about offensive stuff that's not true. And they were joking. And that's OK to do.

Yeah. And the same interview with these two dudes are streamed, I guess. He's on Twitch, too, right? I don't know. AOC has a Twitch channel. Like, this is the world we live in. And she's streaming with Tim Waltz. And then Tim Waltz said something about how she can run a mean

pick six. And all of these football fans got really mad because they were like, that doesn't mean anything. But I don't know anything about football, so I can't fact check it. Pick six? Yeah, I have no idea. Is that not a basketball team? The Mountain Dew next to him, the picture

of him about to do the stream, it was just like yuck. Oh, that was so gross. What's he drinking that stuff for? And he's all gray. I mean, having the gaming controller, okay, fine, I get it. This is a Twitch stream. But the Mountain Dew next to him,

it was just like you jumped the shark with that one. So here we go. We've got this tweet from Mary L. Trump. And it wasn't just her. It was MSNBC actually played footage from the 1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. She says, so we're really doing this again. Eyes wide open. And it's just Trump's rally in New York. These are New Yorkers. These are people who are overwhelmingly like these people at this rally are probably moderates.

And then she shows an image of the Nazi rally in 1939. We got this tweet from Aaron Rugenberg. He says, this is a Nazi rally. They're Nazis. Good God, that should mean something. This is it. Ladies and gentlemen, the October surprise has dropped. Trump is Hitler. I can't believe it. Reductio ad Hitlerium. Is that what they call it? Compare everything because Hitler is the only example of evil that the left has so everything that's bad is hitler yeah i i never saw this coming i can't believe that if i knew trump was hitler i i wouldn't have been supporting him this whole time but you know now now we're here and uh apparently if you hold the political rally it's a nazi rally the democrats held a rally in 1992 and i think 78 i think they did it a lot, actually. Actually, they also had one in 1924 where they were trying to figure out

whether to approve of the Ku Klux Klan. So, you know, this is modern politics for you, I guess. I suppose it's indicative of Trump winning if they've got nothing to go after him on. I think they're freaking out. Yeah, I think they're freaking out. Yeah, I wouldn't have said that a few weeks ago, but I usually say it's 50-50 odds, but I think they're freaking out. Yeah. I wouldn't have said that a few weeks ago, but I usually say it's 50-50 odds, but I think

they're freaking out. And all this stuff helps them, you know? But there's, like I said, there's a lack of artifice in politics and people want sincerity and they're tired of the BS. That's just the way the American people are right now. So all these tactics are probably going to help them, I would think. Do you think, so in the past couple of weeks, we've seen Trump, he's now winning nationally. He's up by like 0.1.

So it's margin of error territory, but he does have the lead of the national polls. And there's now some speculating that he could win the popular vote and the electoral college. I wonder, why do you think that is? I mean, the number one issues right now, economics and immigration,

you just did this film exploring the issues. I'm wondering if you think it kind of feels like when Kamala did this press tour and she couldn't speak and then just called Trump Hitler over and over again. That's when things started to shift. But I'm wondering if people ever actually thought Kamala could deal with a border crisis or an economic crisis at all. Yeah. I mean, the film, we approached it from a humanitarian crisis. That's how I approached it. So a lot, a lot of times the left says close the, you know, close the borders is, is anti-immigrant, but we approached it. These people are being taken advantage of, which kind of inverted the whole thing on its head. And everyone seemed to be

making money off of it too. It was the corruption that we exposed in the film. Everyone's making money off this crisis. Yeah, that's crazy. Those two guys who were like, I get a good job, you know, $20,000 an hour. Everyone's getting paid off. So that's not really a left or right thing. That's just a corrupt thing. And are you pro-corruption or are you anti-corruption? That's how it's framed.

Yeah, but everybody these days are pro, like not everybody, but a lot of people are pro-corruption. I don't think people even see it that way. So first you have to describe the problem precisely. You got 300,000 missing kids. A lot of those kids get trafficked or raped or put with sponsors. We don't know where the children are. And in the film, you actually see these little girls all alone in the desert.

It becomes very real, very real, very fast. And it's emotionally overwhelming to people. So I don't think that's a right wing or left wing. I think that's just, do you want to save these kids? Do you want to stop the humanitarian crisis? And put that way, you got to reform it. You can't have open borders. Yeah.

What is, you were saying girls are getting put alone in the desert yeah so in this film line in the sand that's a real unscripted documentary and we actually see little girls all alone wandering around the real people that we we encountered at the border wall without parents and they're drugged and they're put in these homes with what they're calling sponsors. But unlike the foster care system, they don't vet who the sponsor is in the United States. So there's a lot of trafficking of people. And this is as a result of this open border situation.

So people don't realize that in the film. There's a few moments in the film that people were crying pretty wild. Going outside of economics and immigration, there's a part in the film where there are these two border guards. They're border guards, right? These two guys. They're talking about how much money they make. Yes. Yes. Like 2850. Is that what it was?

2850. Yes, exactly. And they're like, this problem is not going away. We're getting paid. Yeah. And you basically there's another scene where there's a woman driving a bus and she's just like, I'm just doing I'm doing what my job is. I'm just doing my job. But they say it in a way where you can hear the actual translation of, I know I am doing something wrong.

So this is a really fascinating – it's a biblical and it's a tale as old as time. But at what point does being weak make you evil? And throughout this film, all these people, police officers, border patrol agents, border patrol agents are literally facilitating the trafficking of the people. They don't do any law enforcement, the border patrol. The cartel says we're sending a thousand people over. The border patrol says, okay, we'll process them. So a lot of these border patrol agents have become alcoholics, suicidal. And at the end of the film, we meet this border patrol agent who's heroic,

and he blows the whistle, his name is Zachary. And he's crying, he's in his patrol vehicle. This is like the ending of the film. But Tim, it's remarkable to see all these people saying, if we stop the border crisis, then I can't feed my family because I don't have a paycheck. Now that's wild. That's like saying, I need to facilitate the child trafficking

so that I can feed my children. I feel like this is not just within immigration crisis, but everything across the country. And I think we're getting to the point where people are just saying, we can't live like this. We need people of honor who are gonna say, you know what, I look at this much like bribery.

So I heard a story from Kim.com. He told a funny story about how he was driving through Russia, and you get pulled over, and it's like the bribes are expected. He was basically saying that. You get pulled over, the cops, they don't care about what's just or what's not. You give them a bribe. Have you guys been watching Penguin? You've seen Penguin?

No. Oh, you're not watching Penguin, your pop culture? The movie or the show? The show. I didn't know there was a show. It's really good. It's on Max, and there's a scene where this dude's got money a cop stops him and the cop says that's a lot of money for a young person and the kid goes i don't you're talking about i don't have any money and the cop goes oh you're right and then

keeps the money this when you have when you have people who are just like i gotta feed my family i don't care that's that that's when they're willing to take bribes. They know they're doing something wrong. And we are one degree above bribery becoming a normal thing in this country. I think regular people are sick of it. They're sick of seeing border agents like Dr. Phil endorsed Donald Trump. He talked on The View about how children are being sex trafficked and border patrols facilitating it. And they know it. That is a degree of corruption that I did not believe was possible. I don't know if you can pull up this clip of Apotheker, Tim. How do I find him?

I'm going to text it to you right now, actually. He's crying in his patrol vehicle and it's deeply moving. You sent it to me on Twitter? Would you preference text Text? Text you? X, X, because I can pull on the computer. Okay, very good. Well, we'll keep talking while I pull it up. But this is this evil of, this is this aspect of line in the sand. Where do you draw the line? Because most people's, I say my price is my life, and I mean that. You have to kill me to stop me. But Tim, most people's price is actually their children's life. People will do

anything to protect their family, rightfully so, rightfully so. Even sacrificing other innocent children. Even, but then the question is, and throughout history, what would happen is, especially in the Soviet Union, you and I have talked about this, is that people will do anything to protect their children. But what happens when you have to do evil things to feed your family? So it's this really interesting kind of biblical kind of thing that we explore in the film. And you meet so many weak people, so many people in this movie. I'm just doing my job. I'm just doing my job. And until you meet someone who is not weak, what's your at on the X? Is it Timcast?

Okay. I'm going to text this to you right now. And- Michael Malice said that there is no law. Senior DM. What is the quote from Michael Malice? Something like, there is no law so depraved that a police officer would not follow it up to and including the execution of children. Something like that. And a lot of people immediately say a cop would never do that. You don't understand.

And no, I think a lot of people don't understand what Michael is saying. He's not saying that your average cop will just go murder a kid for no reason. He's saying under the appropriate pressures, people will do evil things for their families, for their children. That's a very interesting theme. It's in your DM. If you could just pull it up. Yeah, I'm getting it right here. Zachary Apotheker.

He's a border patrol agent on the Canadian border. People don't realize. If you could go ahead and reset that. Yeah, Instagram's never good with videos. Correct. There was a slider bar. One thing. When a girl like Lincoln Riley is jogging down in Georgia.

Yeah. When a girl like Lincoln Riley's. Fuck, dude. I don't want to cry. Just keep going. When a girl like Lincoln and Riley is jogging, she's top of her class at nursing, and we sign those fucking files, man,

that's blood on our hands. That's blood on your hands. And that's a joke, maybe, that you just keep collecting that check. But let me ask you this. If it was your mother or your sister or your aunt, how would you feel? Every single agent knows deep in his heart what's going on is wrong.

Children get in traffic every day. We don't take their biographical info. We're very busy up here. We're overran with children we can't keep track of. Where are those children going? We don't know. We can have plausible deniability. If you can sleep at night with plausible deniability, it sickens me to my core. Okay, so that was a never see a federal agent in uniform. That's very rare. He's been disciplined as a result of saying those things to me. But there you have a man. That's the archetype of an individual who has drawn his line in the sand and said, I cannot live with myself. I am willing to lose my pension because I care more about the truth, my conscience, than my $130,000 a year salary. And those are the types of people

that fascinate me. Why would he be disciplined for saying those things to you? What rule did he break? Because we live in a corrupt and broken world. None of the other agents in the film were disciplined for speaking to me. So because he told the truth, that's why he was disciplined. And to tell the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act,

to quote George Orwell. So there are people who, like in this film, you have this woman driving a bus, this older lady, and she's like, I'm just doing what my job is. You know, she knows what she's doing is wrong. You could see it in her face. Absolutely.

And these border guards were like, well, we're getting paid. We get 20 bucks an hour. This is never going to stop. These people are thinking, look, man, keep your head down, shut up, take the paycheck and watch the world burn. When you get to a point where the majority of people in your society feel this way, this is the end for your nation, for your society, for your culture, whatever it may be. You need a greater majority of people who are willing to sacrifice for the greater good than you have people who are willing to exploit and rip it apart. Let me say two things about that. Number one, people think it's about something more than money. Now, that may be true.

But what I found is it's almost always about money. Now, I was not expecting that going into the field of the desert and the border patrol crisis. Just like in Europe, labor is looking for more migrant hotels. Very important to understand that the asylum industry is a big business. A lot of people in Europe are making fat profits. In the United States, health and human services gives like a trillion dollars, like billions of dollars to companies that house little children. So if they stop the flow of the kids, they take away the big money salaries. So that's what I, that was actually a little surprising to me. And in the film, Tim's talking

about this moment when these two security guards are like, well, they can't shut this down because then we can't feed our family. So I don't know if Elon's going to come in or someone's going to come in and reform this whole thing, but you have to put a lot of people out of a job he said something like that he said it's gonna get hard for him for some people trump's gonna fire a lot of people we'll see yeah it takes a tremendous amount of balls to do that well let's let's jump to the story from katu hundreds of ballots possibly burned after Vancouver ballot box arson FBI investigating. The scary thing here is why? Now, the Postmillennial adds also in Portland, Vancouver and Portland, they say ballot boxes in Portland, Oregon and Vancouver,

Washington were set ablaze in the early hours of Monday morning. The Portland ballot box located in the 1000 block of Southeast Morrison Street, with officers responding to reports of the fire around 3.30 a.m. Monday. By the time officers arrived, security personnel working in the area had extinguished the fire. They sent a press release. Officers determined that an incendiary device had been placed inside the ballot box to set the fire. The Bureau's Explosive Disposal Unit cleared the device. The status of the ballot box inside is currently unknown. At around 6 a.m., police responded to the area of Fisher's Landing Transit Center in Vancouver for a separate burning ballot

box. According to KATU2, first responders released a pile of burning ballots onto the ground from the box, which continued to smolder. So we don't know how many ballots are now destroyed, how many people's votes are now disqualified. The scary thing about this is shadow campaign. I don't know what it means. I don't know what we can, what we should or could expect in the next week. Did we get stories like this in 2020? No, not burning ballots. No.

Yeah, this is crazy, right? No. And so this is not even the first. There was an Arizona mailbox that was set on fire and 20 or so ballots that were inside it were destroyed. There was another story that apparently was fake news. Someone apparently it was manipulation. And there's concern that this is an attempt to stop Republicans from voting early to scare them, make them think that if they vote early, the ballot could be destroyed. I don't know. I think there's also a possibility it gives Democrats plausible claim that if democrats lose

they're going to say but how many ballots were destroyed by you know mega extremists or something they might make up we don't know who did this left right or otherwise these are in deep blue areas why destroy these ballots um i'm like i i double switch it could be someone hated, didn't want the Portland ballots to get counted. It could be someone wants it to look like the opponent of the Portland voters wants their ballots to get destroyed. Or it could be some force, foreign or domestic, who's trying to sow chaos with an election.

It's domestic terrorism. This is legit domestic terrorism where you unleash like Homeland Security and find out. There's a heightened a heightened awareness this time around tim i mean i'm at omg we have 200 poll workers that want to film and it just wasn't the case a few years ago i mean i put out a hey if you want to film send me a message we got like 600 emails from poll workers and election judges when more is at stake in an election more people are going to do

illegal things. This is a felony, obviously. You're going to have people, you had two assassination attempts or three, two or three assassination attempts on a president. So you're just going to have all, there's so much scrutiny on this election that if someone is doing something improper, it's going to be recorded. You're going to know about it. What happens next? You know, there have been two legitimate attempts on the life of Donald Trump, one plot. We now have ballots being destroyed. I am very concerned about what comes November 5th. Well, we have 200 people with cameras recording, and if there's some impropriety, we'll find out. If itropriety, we'll find out.

If it's close, we'll find out. What's your bigger concern in this? Chaos and violence or just people here and there trying to cheat by like discarding a vote or counting it wrong? Or what do you think is going to happen? The predict the future question. Don't predict the future, but what is your concern? The country is so divided that, the country is so, it's a bigger issue. The country is so divided, I'm not sure how we govern.

If for whatever reason Trump were to lose, how does the other side deal with all of Trump's supporters? Like for example, Elon says, they're gonna, you know, maybe he's joking. Oh, they're gonna put me in jail. I joke, Kamala's gonna put me in jail. Are they really gonna try to put all these people in jail for political reasons? Is that going to sit?

Okay. But that's, then there are going to be some people on the extreme who unfortunately will probably rebel against that. That's unjust. That's wrong. So that's a, that's a setup for a civil war. And, and I don't think the, the, the Democrats can, can, I don't believe in that – I don't believe in that. I don't believe in violence. I don't believe in any type of illegal behavior.

But my concern is the country is so divided. But it does seem, Tim, in the last week or two – maybe I'm reading the room wrong – but that a lot of people are unifying behind Trump. That's my sense of it. So maybe he wins in a landslide. Well, I don't know if I'd say he wins in a landslide, but right now the data suggests that he gets a marginally decent victory in the popular vote and the electoral college. And we need this. I'm going to say it again. I've been screeching this for the past two weeks now.

Go vote. Listen, if you live in California, we need you to vote even more than anybody else. Trump winning swing states, it looks like he's going to win the swing states. Great. If you live in a swing state, go vote. But now more than ever, especially the people who live in deep blue and deep red states need to vote because we got too much apathy. In California, you got 10 million Republicans and about half of the Republicans go, it's a blue state anyway. I'm not going to vote. Who cares? What's the point? If you vote and Trump wins the popular vote, it sends a message to the far left insane ideology that we, the American people, say no. But if Trump wins the Electoral College and loses the popular vote, they're going to claim they have

popular mandate that Donald Trump is a usurper who is ineligible to be president. And then it will be absolute chaos. Now, I'm not saying it won't be chaos if trump wins both because who knows what they're going to do i'm just saying let's have the moral high ground and get everybody to go vote and i'll tell you this even in red states if you're in a red state you're going to go he's going to win here anyway what's the point of me voting me voting so that trump wins by 10 million votes and you say look at that we win in charlestown the line for early voting was massive stretching all the the way down. How far did it go? Blocks?

A couple blocks? Crazy. That's good news. I just think that if there is a conspiracy, if there is some type of illegal destruction of ballots, I think this time we're going to know about it. I think someone out there is going to record it. Someone's going to blow the whistle on it. It's not possible for them to get— I don't. That's what I believe.

Yeah, but we're not talking about a conspiracy. We're talking about a standalone complex. If 10,000 run of the mill regular Democrats who are working voting locations in various states, it could be as simple as one guy of his own volition being like, I can't let Hitler win. And so he says, Trump, Trump must be a no good throws in the garbage. Ah, Kamala. That's Kamala. You know what I mean? I see. You're saying no one was there to witness that. Well, so the issue with with 2020 was that a lot of the instances that people were saying was,

hey, look, this person is doing something weird with that ballot counting. You don't need a conspiracy for this. When Kamala comes out and says Trump is Hitler, do not let him win. That is the conspiracy right there. I mean, not literal conspiracy. That is the instruction. If you are working polling locations and voting centers, what she is basically telling you is that you have to do whatever you can to stop Trump. So what happens if 10,000, what happens if a thousand people in, in swing States just take it upon themselves to do something illegal? Who's going to be tracking John Doe? Just some random guy. He's 36. He got a job at a polling location. Nobody knows or cares who he is. He

has no authority whatsoever. And then he's just going, what does that say? Does that say Trump? Oh, I can't read it. It doesn't the garbage. And then you do that a couple of times and then you end up shifting how many votes for Trump in a swing district. If one person gets caught on tape doing that, man, that'll that'll just send a shockwave. Yes. I hear you. But we already had in 2020, the woman who ran the ballots through multiple times. Yeah.

And that was never adjudicated. The question was, did they properly get counted? And so or so the question was, is she rescanning the same ballots because they're not serialized at incrementing more votes for Kamala or were they just rejected from the scanner and she again. It adds to the count. We don't know if an individual does something nefarious or malicious to shift ballots in either direction. Who cares if someone catches that person, the judge is going to say 50 votes won't change an election. The concern that is when 10,000 Democrats do something like that. Well, we'll be recording if they do. That's all I can say. Yeah, we're still kind of in a heavily insecure voting strata, unfortunately, where we rely on pieces of paper. And I've talked about this all last week. And that's the way it should be.

Well, except when they get lit on fire and there's no backup. That's a big problem. That's the problem of early voting. And there should not be early voting month. Constitution says Congress provides and Congress provides a single day for the election. And they've all started subverting the rules so they can put ballot boxes in unsecure locations, insecure locations. So when a girl's running the same piece of paper through a machine multiple times, if that happens, that's why paper ballots. You're right, Ian, you are

correct. We should not be using the machines. They should be hand counted paper ballots like almost every other country does. And they can get counted in a decentralized manner at the local level where three people are looking at each count, putting it in a box, locking it, and saying, we all agree this is the number. If you can do that, if you can have three people look at every ballot, like what about the guy who's like, I can't read that, and he throws it away. That's why you have two other people. Because then they go, what do you mean? It says Trump. So you need three people for every ballot. I mean, what do they do?

Do people actually do that? Three people, not for every ballot. Three people for every jurisdiction. And they did this in Arizona. They did it in Arizona. Yes, they did. You've got to hope that they're not colluding. Well, there's only so much you can do.

A machine's not going to actually be able to track political biases. So you have a Democrat or Republican and a nonpartisan, and they'll all look at it and they'll all agree that's a Trump vote. That's a Kamala vote. That's a Trump vote. That's a Kamala vote. They get put in a box. The number gets written down. They all sign it. It gets sealed with tamper evident tape three times. And they say, here's our number. We report it. That is ideal. Every jurisdiction does that, and in a decentralized way, all the data gets fed to a centralized location,

and you have a near-perfect decentralized count of the vote. Then you've got to guarantee that it's a Trump voter, a Kamala voter, and an independent person, and they'll just be like, yeah. It's very easy. It's called registration.

Yeah, I'll vote. Dude, you know how many people would register for the opposite things to go screw something like people become nefarious open source code is not nefarious making an argument that you can't perfectly secure a system is not an argument argument i'm not talking about perfectly securing anything right so this is about making less insecure like we're very reliant on people's goodwill right now in this system and Which is why you do three people. And it's very reliant on those three people's goodwill.

And that is... I don't... What? I'm not... I don't trust humans. Why would you ever? I don't trust computer code. I can't see. You just have to see the code.

You're right. I don't trust code. I can't see either. That's why the Dominion system is busted. Here's the problem. I can't read code either. I can't read code. Then you should learn how to read

the code and check it. That's not my responsibility. Or you can be willfully ignorant, but there are people that can read the code. You know what I think? We should do voting based on Magic the Gathering cards. That'll be the verification system, because I'm an expert in that. Other people should have to learn how to play. I don't understand that, Tim. I should be able to use an encryption system only

I know, and you have to learn. Well, if it's what the? What kind of argument is that? Arguing that arguing the system that only one guy understands it's an open source coded system where you can read the code online. Arguing that a plumber has to learn how to code so that he can understand the election system is ridiculous. Hey, man, it's better than not having any access to it. Right.

So we should have paper ballots, hand counted, three people. That's called securing a system. It's better than not having any access to it. Right. So we should have paper ballots, hand counted, three people. That's called securing a system. It's not secured. It's more secured to have some sort of backup. James, what say you? I mean, I approach this a little differently. I released a video in Maricopa County, Tim, last week, went viral, just to let them know that I'm there.

Because I believe this recording thing works and, you know, because it deters fraud. People are afraid, you know, I've been on the show before and people are afraid of, they're gonna be shamed out of committing fraud for fear of them being caught committing fraud. Because your point is, what if, I think you said 10,000 people do it autonomously. Is that your point? Yep. But even in their minds, they might be afraid. They're going to look to the left, they're going to look to the right, right? Most of the time,

you're not alone in these rooms. You're in gymnasiums, you're in schools. I think they would be afraid of getting caught. And my message to everyone is that I'm not exaggerating. We have hundreds of people that are going to have hidden cameras. So maybe that's going to deter them. Do your point? Yep. Some might not get caught, but some will get caught. Agreed. And this Maricopa County people, I said before the show, they're attacking me for recording them. The Maricopa County election trainer has deleted her LinkedIn after OMG's Maricopa election training expose. Let's pull this up real quick, actually. So I have this tweet from James O'Keefe himself. Maricopa County election trainer Amy Bricker deletes her LinkedIn after OMG's Maricopa

election training expose. Can you explain what this expose was and what happened? Wasn't even a big, massive bombshell of them doing anything really wrong. If you scroll through some of the rest of the tweets, you'll see the video. This was a video from a Maricopa County training. And that's this is like the most one of the most contentious counties in the country. And on the the worker was saying, quote, it's not our job to police ballot harvesting. Quote, we're not any type of law enforcement agency. This is Amy Bricker. Now, Tim, I'm not sure she's incorrect about that.

The legislature of Arizona, this is kind of in the weeds here, has made a law that says, no, we can't, the trainers don't police that. If you're angry, be upset at the legislature, not the trainer who's following the law. I didn't release this video because she did something wrong. I released this video to she did something wrong. I released this video to let them know that I'm in there. Should we just,

we'll just play the intro video? Again, it's not Watergate. I have one question about drop-off ballots. Are we allowed to say anything because it is a felony for people to turn in ballots outside their home? No. Just two weeks away

from the presidential election, we are inside recording the trainings. We take you inside Maricopa County, Arizona, where election trainings are now in full swing. Meet Amy Bricker. She's an election trainer for Maricopa County. She says if poll workers spot ballot harvesting activity, it is not their job to police that illegal activity. Check this out. As a poll worker, it's not your responsibility to police that. We're not any type of law enforcement. During yet another election poll watching training session at Maricopa County's election office, another citizen journalist discovered that federal agents from the DOJ will be inside those election centers. Again, all of this recorded by volunteers,

citizen journalists, and poll watchers there in Arizona. What would be some reasons why the Department of Justice would need to show up at your poll center? They could be following up on a lawsuit or just coming to monitor things for this election. So that's a little bit. So who are these people? How do they get these jobs to train others on these elections? That's a good question. That's a good, who are these election trainers? I don't know. And so was she saying, don't, when it comes to someone who may be ballot harvesting,

don't police them? Correct. She's saying, is she saying not to report it? It's not our job to police that. So what she means as Bricker's response, quote, as long as the ballot is signed and dated, we don't get involved. If it's signed by the owners,

it's direct quotes from the rest of the video. If it's signed by the owners, it's valid, raising questions. But the legislature of Arizona, that's the law. So she's following the law. So people are angry at her, by the way, which I don't support. This poor girl's getting death threats, unfortunately, and I'm against that. They should be upset at the legislator.

But remember, ballot harvesting means, Tim, you're delivering a bunch of other people's ballots. But it could be your sister, brother, grandfather, et cetera. That's legal. What's not legal is to fill out multiple ballots. Right. I think actually most states allow some form of secondary ballot drop-off to varying degrees. So that could include ballot harvesting. And there's only a small amount of states that actually explicitly forbid it.

Correct. And if you could look at these, I don't know if you can pull down the responses from the clerks or the head of the county, Stephen Richter is his name. Congrats to the intrepid dance video journalist who secretly... Can we just talk about this? What does dancing have to do with this? Why do they hate... They call James alt-right, far-right, and he's just like, well, you know,

they criticize your dancing. This is kind of philosophically fascinating. Stay classy, O'Keefe. Well, I'm a reporter, and I quote people for a living. Now, here's the rest of this. James O'Keefe's history of cringe dance. This is the.

Is it a compilation of good dance moves? I don't know what that links to. Oh, it's the Young Turks link. They're making fun of my dancing. Again, why are liberals making fun of dancing? I don't. Well, here's an interesting thing. This is like going viral on TikTok too where people are like, guess who I just voted for?

They're doing the Trump dance. They hate the dancing. The Trump dance is so good. It's like one of the best dances ever made. He's not in a golf swing, did you see? This guy, this guy, he's a big deal. He's on like, they had a front page New York Times profile on him. These are big top dogs. My point, Tim,

is that, and I genuinely believe this, you can go through this, these weird responses, but this is Bill Gates. If you can scroll down on my, not this thread, but the next tweet down. Shame on you, James O'Keefe. If we can scroll down. Which one? Oh, on your page. Keep going, scrolling down. It's a shame. Bill Gates. Not the

Bill Gates, but other Bill Gates. Apparently, right there. Go down. Go down. Up one. This right. Go down. Up one. This right here? No. It's... You may have to keep going.

Shame on me. There it is. There it is. Bill Gates. Shame on you, James O'Keefe. Your bad faith... This is the Bill Gates, not Bill Gates Microsoft. There's another Bill Gates who works in Maricopa County elections.

Shame on you, O'Keefe, your bad faith undercover investigation endangers the safety of workers. Election workers are our friends, neighbors, and family members. They did nothing wrong. They deserve our respect. Again, I'm a reporter and my job is to report. It's interesting that newspapers can quote people, but when you video quote them, somehow it puts them in danger. I mean, I guess I understand that on some level in this highly divided world of ours when things have become so heightened, but I'm factually reporting what's happening. And I think all of this is meant to deter fraud. And what I hope, no, not hope, what I know will happen in the next week, because I'm the leader of this effort, is we're just going to have 100 people provide recordings, Tim.

And hopefully that deters the fraud that you speak of. How do we make it bigger than several hundred and get 10,000 people who are legally set up to record and monitor? Laws are very tricky on this, and I have to say that. What is the legality? I could pass the bar exam on this crap. I have posted to our website all the laws. It's only legal in so many states. It's very complicated.

So you got to check the OMG website. It's very complicated. You can't intimidate a voter. And the question is, will the Department of Justice view this? It's not. But will they be pull an Orwellian thing and try to say that we're intimidating voters by recording only matters if if they win? So here's the issue. If you go to one of these polling locations completely under your legal rights and engage in monitoring or whatever is legally and Trump wins. No, you're good.

But if you do that and then Kamala no, you're good. But if you do that, and then Kamala wins, you're going to get locked up. Yeah, but are they going to lock up everybody? Do you think they're going to do that? They set up Capitol Police offices around the country to go after people

who are wandering around on January 6th and didn't even enter the building. They had, there are people who showed up, so there's one story that I've talked about quite a bit. It was a woman who told me she was going to jail for 18 months, her and her husband, because they showed up to the Capitol hours, hours after the Capitol was breached.

They went on the side of the building. They were walking around where there was no broken glass and no violence. The doors had been propped open. They walked up. No, no barriers, no obstructions. Walked in the building, looked around for about two minutes, walked out having no idea what went on, arrested, charged, sentenced to 18 months. Let me do the ethical thing here because we're broadcasting a lot of people. This will take me 30 seconds. What not to do. Do not intimidate voters. If you're recording, do not intimidate. That means do not do anything aggressive or threatening around polling locations that can be viewed. Don't photograph ballots or people who are voting. Don't do that. Don't touch ballots. Don't pretend to be someone else. Don't interfere with the election. Be respectful and check your recording laws in the States. I posted this to my website. But Tim, I find it fascinating. You think that Kamala is just going to jail everyone or jail people like Elon and me and others. Elon, they're going to they're going to come after him in the government agencies and they're going to they're going to damage his businesses and make life miserable.

Don't you think that there's so many there's so many Trump supporters that are just they're not going to put up with that? I think that is the intended position. No, to create a civil disabuse, civil unrest. Well, yeah, because I don't I don't I don't think I don't think anybody wants civil war at an official at an official level. There's certainly people on the ground like Antifa and maybe some elements of the right that are like, yeah, bring it on. But that's ridiculous. I think what they're more looking for is if you if you listen to what Steve Baker had to say about January 6th, he's the journalist who's been criminally charged. They shackled him. And he

said, in his opinion, the Pentagon planned for J6 to go down the way it was. And if it wasn't for one officer, there may have been severe injuries to members of Congress and the Senate. One officer of his own volition without orders evacuated the building. He got in trouble later on for, you know, something else. He said he was endangering officers. If he did not have his own volition to evacuate, then the J6ers would have clashed with members of Congress. Steve Baker believes that was the intention. So that way they could say this was an insurrection.

And if you think about it through that lens, everything they've done hunting down J6ers makes sense if a member of Congress was hurt in some way. But considering you have a bunch of nonviolent misdemeanor trespass, hunting people down and putting them in solitary confinement makes literally no sense. So I would I would say it's not that anybody wants a grand scale separatist movement or anything like that, but that they want to terrify people into sitting down and shutting up. They want to create an air of fear and terror among anyone who would oppose the uniparty machine and then give themselves justification for going after the people who speak up and

speak out. That's going to create a threshold of moral outrage where it'll just be a pendulum swing. It could, or it could create a Soviet or Chinese communist type era where the dissenters are just beaten down and suppressed and hidden. I think my theory is that America might be different than all those previous examples throughout history. We're more cavalier, we're more cowboy, we're more the land of the free, the home of the brave. My theory, and I have to believe this. Otherwise, what's the point of existing? I have to believe that we're just built differently. So even if it were true, which I don't actually believe, but even if it were true

that Kamala wins and all these regulatory agencies put people like me in jail. By the way, I've been to jail. I've been raided by the FBI, arrested by the FBI, sued 40 times, fired from the company I founded, and I can go on. But even if I were to take your premise, I think the people would just rise up. I don't mean that in a violent way. I just mean they would support the people who are in jail and donate to their lawyers. But go ahead. This is it. Trump winning may be that people finally breaking and saying, I've had enough of this. And now in in Jefferson County, in West Virginia, the line for early voting is massive. And I don't believe the people in West Virginia are lining up in droves to vote for Kamala Harris. You can argue that Kamala's got her base for sure. I don't think anyone is that passionate

about Kamala. The only argument would then be they actually believe Trump is Hitler and they're passionate against him. Let me throw you another black swan here in your – Black swan. Black swan means unpredicted, unknown thing, curveball. I have a whistleblower from FEMA that's going public Thursday. FEMA, you know, the North Carolina situation. A full-time federal employee, Christian lady, who says to hell with this,

I'm blowing the whistle on the agency. And I'm noticing a pattern, you and I have been talking about this for years, but I'm noticing now like people have just had enough. They just, Zach, you saw the guy crying in the perpetual car. And I just think you're gonna see more of those types of people rise up.

And notice, you didn't see the movie, but in the movie, Zach makes a sign of the Christian cross. I say, aren't you afraid they're gonna take your pension? They're gonna destroy your life. He says, you're looking at it. Very powerful.

He says, to hell with all of you. I am willing to die on my cross, so to speak, for the public's right to know. So this lady that's coming out from FEMA Thursday, a few days before the election comes out, I mean, it's very powerful. And I think that you just need a few people with courage. And courage is in short supply these days. But that's another thing that could happen. You know, I was just thinking about it, and I think it's a simple equation.

When the fear of what this country is becoming outweighs the fear of reprisal, you will get whistleblowers. That's exactly right. And I think we're starting to see this. That's exactly right. And I have this new nonprofit that pays their, I'm paying Zach's legal bills, Citizen Journalism Foundation. It's very, very powerful to hear. I asked this lady I said aren't you afraid and she said no I'm I'm called to do this and and and you know your point is well taken Soviet Union what are the other countries you mentioned that went through this this this hell this dystopian it's a pattern throughout history right where we just descend into compliance and conformity and people are afraid to to to do the right thing but this is america damn it

this is different we're built differently right yeah local governance runs this show yeah there's so many people that control their locality here yeah you just need someone to to they're trying to tim all those election officials in maricopa are saying that stuff because they're trying to deter other people to do the same thing that's's their number one goal. Deter others. Zach took his gun away, took Zachary Apotheker, by the way, at some point, I'd love to call him in just two minutes on the show so everyone could hear his voice, the perpetual agent. Yeah. Took his gun away, took his paycheck, cut his paycheck, trying to make his life a living hell. So they can deter other people from doing the same thing. I think more likely than you getting thrown in jail

in the event that Kamala wins, due to the nature of the work you do, I think that big tech firms will just see a Kamala victory as licensed to crack down censorship. That's interesting. But Zuckerberg, what do you think his philosophy is? They're so dumb for trusting me. He literally said that.

But he sounds like he's become more politically libertarian. You see this story? Actually, you know what? Let's pull this story up. Let's pull this story up and we'll talk about this. We've got this from NPR. Over 200,000 subscribers flee Washington Post after Bezos blocks Harris endorsement. The Washington Post has proven itself to be of, for, and by the Democratic Party masquerading

as a news organization. Jeff Bezos decided, and he's not a stupid guy, we are not endorsing Kamala Harris. USA Today just announced they will not be making an endorsement either. L.A. Times announced this. Do you know why they're making these announcements? They know they're going to lose money, but they know what happens after this election when Trump wins. Trump is going to come out and he's going to be pissed off. He's going to be pissed off at these guys who all went against him.

And they believe that Donald Trump is going to win. Also, I think they legitimately don't support Kamala Harris. Like Jeff Bezos does not support that regime. Benz, I think Mike Benz was talking about this or somebody was talking about last week that these guys trusted the deep state. They trusted the apparatus Zuckerberg with Facebook. And then they did their bidding basically during the Biden administration and with the Hunter Biden laptop suppression of that story. And then their reward was more crackdown, more supporting the EU's law on digital censorship. And they're like, we thought that if we did what you told us to do and censored the people you want to censor, that you'd give us our power back or like lighten up.

And instead, it just got worse. And they see that that's the path of following evil is that more evil comes or more suppression following the path of suppression equals more suppression. You don't make a deal with the devil. So my, my view with this, where is Mark Zuckerberg right now? That was the question. Well, he seems to be coming out acting like he's libertarian now and he's for Trump. No, he he's looking at the data that he's got and he's saying we cannot as as these institutions suppress the American people anymore. Trump will win. And if we are on the wrong side of this, then the people will come with their torches and pitchforks. So Zuckerberg is now saying, oh, yeah, Trump. So cool. So great. I'm out of here. He's building it. He's building a house on a Hawaiian island with an emergency bunker and his own wagyu cattle. That dude's preparing for the worst.

A lot of these guys are. Well, this is the Washington Post. You know, the commercial imperative dictates that most of their audiences are Democrats. So they have to pick that side. Yeah, but they're not now because Washington Post, Washington Post refused to endorse and the editorial staff wanted to. Bezos blocked them and said, you're not now because Washington Post, Washington Post refused to endorse and the editorial staff wanted to. Bezos blocked them and said, you're not endorsing. And the reason why, in my opinion, is that Bezos is looking at his business he owns and the money he's going to lose. And he's going to he's thinking himself, if we don't endorse a Democrat, I'm going to lose tons of money. However, if we endorse Kamala and Trump wins, he's going to come after Blue Origin.

He's going to come after Amazon. He's going to come after all of us. I see. I see. And Bezos with this statement is saying it is a greater risk to go against Donald Trump than it is to just not endorse anybody. I think these billionaires are seeing the line in there. They're seeing what's coming. That is a Trump victory. You know, know honestly if there is a defense mechanism about against totalitarian government it is the people themselves and their companies their organizations and like you know multinational corporations are dangerously centered center forces of power like you can google has a lot of authority but that also the people at google could be a paragon against corruption because they help run our digital infrastructure and our communications like they they could maintain against some sort of crazy government overreach.

Yeah. Ben Smith wrote that it was impossible timing for this announcement to be read as a statement of principle, which makes it even worse. It's like if it wouldn't be one thing if he was doing it on principle. But it's obviously to your point, obeying Trump in advance. Yep. Which is, I just, it's so political and so insincere. But I think there's a greater issue, which is how do you solve the political divide in this country? And how do you avoid this situation? By the way, Zach's ready.

I'll call him when you're ready, if it's okay for me to go and speak. Maybe in like five minutes, we'll wrap up this story. The answer to your question, James? You jam. You rock so hard that the world has no choice but to listen. We're going to do that tonight. I think you do it by, for one, this leftist ideology is not popular. It never has been.

It only rules through fear. All of these comedians, like Howard Stern Stern spews racial slurs left and right. But then once the woke mob controls the institutions, he drops to his knees and he begs like a spineless little coward. He'll no longer make the jokes. Please just don't hurt me. Oh, what a loser. Howard Stern, you're a loser. People like him.

They are terrified of whoever is in control of the institution. And what we need to do is prove they don't. They don't control these institutions and people don't care for this. It's a silent majority of people who reject the woke garbage. Bud Light made a huge point when they lost billions in market share and they've never recovered. I thought they were going to see, I don't want to get too much into it. I thought they were going to see a sales normalization.

They would capitalize. They didn't. They just keep spiraling. It's just worse. Even UFC and Joe Rogan couldn't save Bud Light. Disney lost a billion dollars, a billion on their past 10 releases or whatever. And Kevin Feige had to go and fire everybody. The next move is a Donald Trump popular vote victory.

Go vote. I don't care where you live. If you live in a red state or a blue state that are deep blue, not swing states, more than ever, you got to Go vote. I don't care where you live. If you live in a red state or a blue state that are deep blue, not swing states more you more than ever, you got to go vote because when Trump wins the popular vote by 10 million or whatever the number is, I'm not saying he does. I'm saying if he does, that's a message to all of these leftist institutions. You have lost the popular mandate. You never had it. And it's time to sit down and shut up and let regular people get come back in the fold and we can fix this thing. That's how unify the divide you shut out the crazy people by proving

once and for all people don't like the crazy look when i went and saw marvel uh uh uh uh adventures endgame it's a big deal it's a 10-year culmination of a multi-billion dollar franchise the one of the biggest movie franchises ever when they did the scene where all the women like are walking up and they're like she's not alone and all the women strut the audience groaned people didn't like it nobody hates women it's just ham-fisted garbage when they remade the movie the craft did you see that one when was that this was like two years ago you got to watch it you're gonna laugh you're gonna you're gonna laugh your ass off the craft in the 90s is about four girls who are witches and they do magic, whatever. They remade it and it's just all woke insanity.

One of the witches is a trans woman. They turn the jock gay with magic. It's just it's nonsense. These movies bomb. They fail miserably. They're losing money. Regular people do not like what the institutions have become. But so long as they can beat people in a submission and tell them if you speak up,

you're fired. People won't say anything. But now people are starting to speak up. Bud Light, as I mentioned, Disney, as I mentioned, and now Trump winning a popular vote victory finally silences the eight to 10 percent of Americans who have this insane ideology. And we have the polling data on this. It's eight to 10% of Americans who have this insane ideology. And we have the polling data on this. It's eight to 10% of Americans that are woke. And the rest of the liberal side is just bowing down to them, scared they'll lose their jobs. Enough.

Scared they'll lose their jobs. That's mostly it. Mostly it. Not everybody. Not everybody. But I believe that if we get a Trump popular vote victory, more of these people are going to think the other way. And they're going to think, so most people like Trump?

Well, I don't want to be a loser. I don't want to get people yelling at me. I don't agree with those people. And that's how we shut down the fringe elements of the far left that have been violent and psychotic. And it will show this country is actually more unified than people realize. I think that's right.

They call that a cultural victory. Absolutely. That's how it works. Or at least a sway of culture where cities start to pop back. I would just like to explain briefly what I was talking about with Mark Zuckerberg, because that is an actual quote. And I know you're kind of believing his rebrand. No, I'm just, yeah. Tell me.

He leans libertarian, but this is what he said in 2004. He said, yeah, so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard, just ask. I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses. People just submitted it. I don't know why. They trust me, dumb fucks. That was 20 years ago? Yeah, but do you really think his philosophy has changed at all?

Oh, yeah. Now that the government's been up his butt. He's learned. He's growing. Yeah, he's you really think his philosophy has changed at all? Oh, yeah. Now that the government's been up his butt. He's learned. He's growing. Yeah, he's become utilitarian. He knows what they're going to do to him if he keeps participating. He's become one of the most powerful men in the world, controlling one of the most powerful information apparati on the planet.

And he's worth dozens of billions or whatever dollars. And now he's had a reformation. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, man. The Biden administration screwed that. I'm just saying I feel like big tech censorship isn't going to get significantly better under either candidate, whoever wins. Well, that that's a reasonable assumption.

I mean, it does look like given the nature of what you do for a living, that is something that you obviously have to think about. About censorship. What about the Streisand effect? They censor you. It makes you bigger. What do you think about that? I mean, that's optimistic.

It depends. I mean, you're never going to know because the people who fade into obscurity, they fade into obscurity. Right. It is not correct to say that once it's online, it's there forever. For example, let's see if we can use the power of the internet. There was a cartoon on Reddit 10 or 12 years ago where there was this cartoonist on YouTube. I forgot what his name was. I don't know. Maybe you can find it.

He made jokes mocking various subreddit. He had r slash gaming and r slash atheism. He made fun of the r slash atheism subreddit because he was like, it's actually really cool that you guys make fun of people for having different beliefs. He got attacked so mercilessly by the left, he deleted the video, removed it from the internet. I've never been able to find it since. And it had a ton of views. It's gone.

That's not the only example, just the one I can think of off the top of my head, where people have been able to successfully purge stories from the internet using reputation management firms. I hear you. I think the nature of what I do is a little different in that the content is king. So if you get something so compelling on video, it'll work its way through other people. If I'm censored, it'll be distributed by proxy. So I was banned from Twitter in 2021 until Elon bought it. And then I was brought back in January 23. And people would distribute our stories by proxy. If it's a really good story, people will want to watch it. Just like people go to pay to see stuff, like they go to movie theaters to watch stuff. I think people will want to see it. I think you have to very compelling

content, which randomly makes me think that good journalism is hard to come by and and good stories are hard to come by. But I said it's a. People can disagree on this. Do you know what exactly got you banned in 2020? It was so ridiculous. It was Kafkaesque. It was like, what did they say? They said I was it was like the most ridiculous, the most ridiculous, absurd, bureaucratic rationale, the same thing they're doing to Zach Apotheker from the Border Patrol. I had gone to a house in San Francisco. I did a story about CNN undercover, and I went – or Facebook or one of these companies. But it was on Twitter.

I posted to Twitter, and I forgot to blur the lamppost of the number of the house. So they argued that I had infringed privacy by leaving the number on the lamppost, but CNN went to like people's private homes and blurred nothing. Random old ladies. Random old ladies in trailer parks,

you know about that one. So they banned me because I had violated the privacy of this lamppost in a public neighborhood. It was completely absurd and hypocritical. And I do remember when they banned me on Twitter, I'm like, whoa, because I never thought I'd cross that threshold. And for two years, I distributed my stories to other people. If it's really, really good, people will share it. That's my theory, at least. Do you want to give Zach a call? We're going to do it right now. This is the Border Patrol agent in Vermont. I'm going to be a DJ and have one ear off and one ear on so I can hear through the microphone.

Zach Apotheker. Hey, Zach, are you there? Of course I am. Always here for you, brother. You have the thickest Boston accent ever. You want to put the microphone right up top? I mean, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, you're...

I can't change now. You're live on the air. Is this right? Yeah. Is it okay? You're live with Tim, and we showed the clip of you in the patrol car, and we're talking about courage,

and we're talking about people blowing the whistle, and Tim Poole made a point that, you know, people are afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of retaliation. You're not. So you're the guy doing the thing. Can you just talk about why that is and people following your lead? Well, I don't think I'm a courageous guy. I think, you know, I grew up in a country that I grew up playing wiffle ball with my brothers in the backyard, running around my neighborhood. I grew up right outside Boston.

I had a glorious upbringing, Fourth of July barbecues, so forth and so on. Both my brothers got into drugs. We were like a generation full of good men that started on maybe pills and then moved over to heroin. And I lost both my brothers. And when that happened, I felt a calling and a purpose. So I signed up for the Border Patrol. I don't want to make it seem like i was some grandiose border patrol agent i was just a guy that wanted to go down to arizona saw people from coming to my country and about three and a half years ago a little under four years we started taking people

bringing them into the country and giving them everything fog that would ever far see what you could ever imagine that American citizens would get. So I saw you running around doing your thing, and I reached out to you, and I said, listen, I'm never going to get my brothers back. I can lose my job, but what I'm not going to stand for is let my country go by the wayside without speaking out and saying something. And they retaliated against you, Zach.

What did they do to you? Because I know they took your gun away. They're trying to destroy me. They're throwing me in they took your gun away. They're trying to destroy me. They're throwing me in a corner. Right now, they're trying to destroy him. And they took your gun away just really quick. Like, what did they do? They took my gun away, took me off nights,

took me off weekends. They said it wasn't disciplinary. They brought in criminal investigators to investigate me as if I did something criminal. All I said was, there's over 300,000 kids missing. Lincoln Riley's now deceased by somebody that the Border Patrol encountered, and I'm the bad guy. And they're trying to get me on a technicality.

So luckily I have you. You have the big outreach. You're on Timmy Poole. I'm just here to say, when are we going to stand up and actually speak out for your country? I'm not saying you're going to beat me. I don't know if Tim has a question, but we're trying to get other people to follow your lead and they're trying to make an example out of you. And that's the concern.

Well, what was the moment when you were like, the straw has broken the camel's back, I have to speak? There really wasn't one moment. I, you know, James can attest to this. We were talking about, we were going back and forth. I called him crying. You know, I'm not that courageous of a guy. And we hung up the phone. And the moment we hung up, Trump got shot in the ear. I called him crying. You know, I'm not that courageous of a guy.

And we hung up the phone. And the moment we hung up, Trump got shot in the ear. That was it. That was the Trump getting shot was the moment. Wow. No, no, Zach, that was the day Trump got shot in the ear. And then you're like, okay. You're like. I don't know if we're going to even have a country.

If that bullet goes to his head. It was Trump getting shot. Yeah. That was the line in your sand, right? I was like, buddy, there might not be tomorrow. I didn't know if I'd be successful. I didn't know if the movie. I didn't know nothing.

I'm not a political guy. I'm not in the entertainment industry. I said, I want to go on record and say what's going on. For those of you listening, you're listening to the Border Patrol agent in the film, Line in the Sand, who blew the whistle on the Border Patrol in his patrol vehicle. And now they're taking away his gun they've reduced your salary right they're trying to like tim they're they're trying to like keep him employed but make his life a living hell so he quits yep and i and my advice

is to not quit don't quit right we're standing here on principle you're gonna take me alive i you're gonna take me i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. Zach, what should other Border Patrol officers do to follow your lead? I mean, everybody knows what to do and what they should do. And a lot of times

I get ad hominem attacked. Like, I wasn't that good of an agent. I wasn't this. You know, listen, I'm not here to tell the man, the next man what to do. But if you sit down

with any Border Patrol agent and say, what have you seen over the last four years? They're going to say the same thing as me. And they're scared. They don't want to get treated like this. So maybe I can prove to them that, listen, it's not that bad. Whatever they do, at least the American people are going to appreciate it.

I can tell you that I have a lot of these Border Patrol agents that are talking to me on Deep Background and they're fence sitters. They're like, let me see what happens to Zach. That's what they're all saying. They're literally watching this guy, because they all hate what they're doing, and it's blood money. In your film, one of the Border Patrol agents looks at you and says, hey, I'm a big fan, and shakes your hand. It's weird.

There's little girls. You've got to watch this movie. There's little girls, and they're being picked up and trafficked, and they're just like, oh, I hate my life, hate my job, hate what I'm doing, but I need the money. And then I'm like, I'm like, what are you guys doing? And he's like, hey, I'm a big fan. It was just like the most absurd. I mean, it may have been the most absurd moment in the movie. It's like lost in all of this is any semblance of right and wrong. So all these guys, I'm going to, Zach doesn't know this because he's not on all the calls, but all these guys, actually Zach knows some of the guys, are waiting to see what happens

to Zach. So it's almost like Zach needs to survive and thrive. And then they'll follow him. Listen, I'll go back to Boston and go be a carpenter. But what I'm not going to do is hand little girls off into the hands of the cartel because I'm getting paid about $120,000, $130,000 a year. My mother always said to me, Zach, I don't care if you bag groceries. It's what's in your heart. I get choked up talking about it.

I get emotional. But she said to me, she says, I don't care if you go bag groceries. It's what's in your heart that counts. And a man's character, it's not his job. So this way, I never had an allegiance or a loyalty to the brand of the border patrol to be, to have a gun on my head. I signed up because both my brothers died. I'm never going to get them back. I signed up for drugs when I come into this country.

And next thing you know, all our resources are tied up in having people come in. And next thing you know, you're looking are tied up in having people come in. And next thing you know, you're looking to your left and right. The desert's wide open. And what's really going on? Like you had Chad Wolf on your documentary. What did he say about the drugs that were coming to the fence? I mean, you saw drugs in your movie. Chad Wolf said that drugs only come – they were saying that drugs only come into port of entries.

They come in everywhere. Zach, we got to go. Tim, any last comments? No, just I really do appreciate your bravery, your honesty, and I wish more guys were like you. Thank you, Zach. If you guys don't mind, all I ask is I don't ask a whole lot. I'm not trying to get nothing out of this,

just that the American people can keep an eye on my story. I don't care what happens to me. I just want everyone to be able to see it. And I know, James, you're going to push it. If they destroy me, at least let it be known. They're not going to destroy you because they're going to have to go through me to get to you. And we're going to pay your legal bills. I'm paying his legal bills.

We're going to pay all the whistleblowers' legal bills. Thank you, Zach. Godspeed, Jimmy. See you later, Tim. Have a good one, man. So did you notice how he's, I mean, this guy is the thickest Boston accent I've ever heard. I love his accent. I'm an accent person. I go undercover for a living, so I study this stuff. I love his accent. I'm an accent person. I go undercover for a living. So I studied this stuff. I think that he, you made a point, you said people are

afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of this and all. It's almost like, what if the premise was to hell with that? Okay, I'll lose my job. That's what he's about. He doesn't care. But it's the equation of when people fear what happens to their country more than they fear reprisal, you get whistleblowers. And I don't think that's happened until recently, right? I don't think that's been a thing. I think for some people, they'll stand up and do the right thing no matter what. The Vietnam War spawned a generation of people willing to do it. But since then, this is it.

This is the beginning. Yeah, I think so. I think for a lot of people, we're going to start seeing this more and more. I think there's two kinds of whistleblowers. Guy gets a job because he's like, hey, I want to work security nights. He sees somebody doing something wrong and he goes, that's wrong and I won't stand for it. He's going to take personal risk, but it's the right thing to do. There's another kind of whistleblower where they're actually looking at a scale.

And they're like, if I say nothing, my life will be destroyed. I'm going to blow the whistle, right? So some of these whistleblowers were going to come out. It's not because it's the right thing to do. It's because the alternative is worse. That's very well put. That's how bad it's getting. They're having a crisis of conscience, right? And whistleblowing is extra legal. It's impossible to do it in a way where you're not breaking a few eggs but you're that's a very astute way of putting it there's a there's a scale and at some point you can't live with yourself most of these barbital agents are miserable and if you're watching we're in zach in the film i can't even do what he does so powerful but if you're watching this i will pay your legal bills i have a founder but let me clarify

i'm speaking economically there is somebody who's to be working a job and they're going to say, if I don't call out the people who are stealing from this company, this company is going to go out of business. I'm going to lose my job. Right. And so there's a lot of, I think we're seeing more whistleblowers that are looking at it more like, you know, this country is about to collapse economically. If I don't do something now and speak out, it'll be worse than saying nothing.

It's almost like that Braveheart speech from Mel Gibson where he says, yes, you might keep your job, but for a while. And many years from now, when you're lying in your bed and you're sitting there, what would you give if you had one chance

to go back to 2024 on the eve of the presidential election and blow the whistle on FEMA? And- Or to vote. Go vote, go vote. Or to vote. I mean, I think that most of the whistleblowers I talk to

don't care if they lose their job. Yeah. They just don't care. Some things are more important than your job. And frankly, even if a hundred people blow the whistle, it'll change the world. But of course, they're all watching Zach. They're all watching him and waiting to see

what happens to him, seeing how he does. So what these people have to do is they have to make his life a living. And they try to make his life a living hell. They have to try to hurt him. And my advice is don't quit. Don't quit. Oh, man, it's so demonic.

No, it's very – it's spiritual, Tim. Yeah. The whole thing is a spiritual war. I don't know if you know that, but it is. Not only in the support of people coming out out that's obviously what you do and a lot of your what your company does which is extra spectacular is the is the is the releasing the knowledge of what's happening in society because tim like you were saying they people will blow the whistle when the cost when the opportunity cost of not blowing the whistle out or outpaces

like it's going to be worse if i don't throw my job away it's going to get so but if they don't know how bad it might get so that's our job as educators and a lot of what we do here and shows like this and people that are willing to ring the bell and show you like hey the U.S. national debt is 36 trillion uh and it's going up by a trillion dollars a year whatever whatever they show you that the pain they show you the problem and they do it in a way that you don't look away then when you know the problem it's easier to make the calculation of should i speak out against this i sent tim a dm there's a little girl in the desert walking all alone in in the desert in the film it's not an actress it's a real girl and people were emotional i didn't think it was that, I mean, I could have shown a lot worse.

And there's this trailer, just play the first few seconds of this trailer because it's a scene from the film. Boom. We got an unaccompanied minor right here, guys. This is heartbreaking right here. Pause, pause. Go back to that. This is just, there's more in the movie,

but this girl's all alone. Her clothes are tattered. She's drugged. And she says, and this is in the film, but this girl's all alone. Her clothes are tattered. She's drugged. And she says, and this is in the film, she says, my father's in heaven. Now she's speaking in Spanish, translated it. I mean, this was, people are crying. I don't think Americans are ready to see this. I don't think they understand this is a humanitarian crisis.

So Border Patrol agents see this every day. Zach sees this and he says, to hell with my job. I can't live with myself. I mean, this is real. This is not me. Sound of Freedom, great movie. I love Sound of Freedom. This is not an actress. This is a real little girl walking all alone. And obviously, I don't even want to say what happened to her and what will happen to her. And I could have shown a lot worse, but people were overwhelmed just by the image of this little girl. And that shows me that we need more imagery,

images like this, because Tim, that'll, that'll hopefully change things. Regardless of who wins, they have to reform the system. She just like brought across, drugged up and left. Yeah. There's scenes in the film of people, kids drugged. They drug them. What do they drug them with? There's like this sedative in Mexico that they use to sedate them. And many of the facilities in Texas where they house these unaccompanied girls, they're sexually abused and raped.

And nobody talks about it. Well, we're talking about it now. Very rarely do you see stuff like this. I think it's powerful because the entire concept and term for empathy has been abused by people who support open borders. And a lot of people mistakenly believe that supporting open borders is the compassionate option. That's not true. And you're showing. And you know what really is the reason why we don't talk about it?

From my perspective is because so many people are making money off this. It's all about money. You stop the flow of the people like this, you stop enriching the people. And the government's funding this. It's wild. It's, it's, it's, it's, and Tara Rhodos blew the whistle on the, on these unaccompanied kids. And, and, and that's why what Tim is saying is so true.

When the cost of doing nothing outweighs your conscience, you can't brush your teeth, look in the mirror. And these images, I mean, these images are in your mind and it traumatizes you. Who's Tara Rodas? She's in the film. She's a federal government whistleblower who worked in the Office of Refugee and Resettlement

where they put all the kids. And she talked about all the hundreds of thousands of missing kids in the United States. Because a drug, traffic cocaine, or you can only use that once. The child, you can use multiple times. And what I learned is the economics of human trafficking, there's a lot of money in housing the kids. And Tim said, driving the kids around in the movie, you see, well, we drive all these

people around making money. A lot of money in that, a lot of money in trafficking the children. You know where there's not a lot of money? Saving the children. There's no money in trafficking the children you know where there's not a lot of money saving the children there's no money in saving these people what would be a way of saving them would just be sending them do you understand how much how many people will lose money if you close the border there's nothing to be gained by closing the border except for the lives of children well then but that but that's the but therein lies the point isn't it yeah what's a human life worth what's a human life worth forty What's a human life worth? $40,000. You tell me.

I think it's $40,000, yeah. That's why the film is called Line in the Sand. And that's why, yeah, that's what we're talking about here. What is it? This crafty guy with a camera on his watch over here. Actually, I do. It seems like the longer you leave it open, the more business will spring up around it. There's literally a man in the film who I say, so if they stop the flow of the children, you stop getting paid.

He's like, yes, sir. Yes, sir. With a twinkle in his eye. Then he goes, that's life. In fact, people say that's life so many times in the film. I should make a rap video out of it. Like, that's life. That's life.

That's life. That's life. I said, that's life. That's life. That's life. That's life. I said, that's life. That's life. Lost in any of this is any, is any morality or concern about humanity. And to your point, which is well, well said, they have the narrative, right? Well, you're trying to help these people. Listen, I rode the train with the Venezuelans. I jumped on a moving freight train in Mexico and rode it with the, and it changed my life because I realized, oh, these are decent people.

Not all criminals. They're trying to do the right thing. How long were you on that train for? I was only on there for a weekend. But like the whole weekend you were on that train? We were on Arapuato, rode the train. There was a fricking guy with a machete and they said, my colleague, hide.

I'm like, hide? Well, I mean, this is dangerous. I was detained by the Mexican National Guard. I could have been ransomed. You used to do stuff. We used to been ransomed. You used to do stuff. We used to work with Vice. You used to do street stuff. I mean, this is hardcore, hardcore journalism that we did.

And I was scared. The one piece of advice I always have for everybody is don't panic. Well, don't panic. Especially when you don't speak their language. Right. But the Venezuelans took us in. They, like a herd animal, we were all just trying to survive. And it really was deeply moving for me to travel with

them because it was all about survival and being part of a team. But that image right there can change a lot of hearts and minds. LineInTheSandMovie.com, it's out now, and I think it'll go mainstream because it's not a political film. So for two days you were on this train, is that what you're saying? I was not on the train for two days. I was near Poitou. We rode the train. My colleagues, Anthony, had previously ridden the entire train,

and he was— Beast, they call it, right? La Bestia, the Beast, the train de la muerte, the train of death. Jeez. And it's usually a grain car. I was in a Bollicera car, which is little iron balls. And they were so happy that they got to lay on iron balls. This is in the movie because it's more comfortable than the grain car. And Anthony Rubin had been kidnapped by the cartel.

This guy's like, I don't know if you've ever heard of this guy. He's a YouTuber. And they took a crowbar, destroyed all of his cameras. And so he didn't have the footage from that trip. So when we were detained by the Mexican National Guard, this is in the film, my biggest concern was losing the footage. So I hid the SD chip in my cargo pants. And fortunately, when the Mexican National Guard detained me, they realized that I was a documentarian, and they became very terrified of me, that I had recorded their illegal

behavior. Wow. So they let me go. I actually don't— You've got a camera in your watch. I had recorded the interaction with the Mexican National Guard on my— Can I see it? This particular watch was not the one that I used. Oh, okay, because he's pointing to it. You're like, I do have, actually. Not at the moment. So I had a smartwatch 10 years ago with a camera in it. Nice.

And nobody knows these things exist. I mean, you can look it up if you want, but they've been around for a while. You can contact lenses with cameras in them. Yeah, but some of this stuff on Amazon isn't very good. You have to have the right hidden camera. We use this as a low light watch camera. It's completely pitched black.

So even GoPro's 11 don't work well in low light. So you have to have the right hidden cameras. We have some good stuff. And I rode the train with the Venezuelans and I have to say that it was deeply moving it was really something these these are genuine some of the people trying to get a better life and if i was them i'd be doing the same thing is this is the footage in the movie it's in the film what was it what exactly how many hours on the train oh uh in the film we only show um 10 minutes of the film, but this is the entire stretch from Irapuato is a town

south of Mexico City. And we had documented the journey all the way to Ciudad Juarez and that we had made friends with the immigrants. So we they had sent us video. So we show it. Go ahead. I was gonna say, you got to watch it. You just got to watch it.

Yeah, you got to watch it. I just want to say this without calling anybody out. But James, you make it mad. But I actually let some friends watch it you just got to watch it yeah you got to watch it i just want to say this without calling anybody out but uh james you make him mad but i actually let some friends watch it with me oh and one of them started crying no way grown man when when act three which part the child part oh the other children yep i did and he was like trying to turn it off too he was and i was like bro you have got to if you can't do it you got to leave do you think that people are um do you think people are ready to to handle this child trafficking or they would rather not know about it i don't think i was i was i was mentioning that the intro to sound of freedom is really hard to watch you know it's when the father loses his children and the way they trick him and steal these these children him, it's difficult to watch. Now imagine watching the real thing.

That's crazy. This is terrifying stuff. It's terrifying. I just say people got to watch it. It's transformative. And I don't know why anybody has not done this before. I guess they're afraid of getting killed because in Mexico they assassinate you. Yes, James.

Cartel is – I forget about that. The cartel makes, what it? Ten thousand a person. So all these folks. So so how do you take the money away without getting killed is the question wrote James. This this this film you've made is a serious threat to a multibillion dollar industry. Yes. Yeah. I hope you're taking your security seriously.

I I wouldn't say what I'm doing on the air about my security, but I think that in Mexico, they kill you in the United States. So I guess they also try to kill you in the United States. They also try to assassinate you. And that's that. Here's a really serious question. If Trump wins or when Trump wins, how does he reform this? Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you. If you had embarked on a project like this during the Trump administration, how would it have looked any differently?

I can't imagine that the state of affairs at the border looked tremendously different than what you showed in this film. I think that that's a great point. The film will probably be more successful after the presidential election when we're not in this heightened political sensibility. How do you reform the industry? How do you change this is the question I have. And maybe Elon Musk can change it. You have to take away so many people's jobs and the cartel is getting paid.

So are you gonna take down the cartel? How do you stop that? I'm not an expert in that. This is what I do. I'm a journalist. I expose it. What do you stop that? I don't I don't I'm not an expert in that. I'm I'm an I'm in. This is what I do. I'm a journalist. I expose it. What do you think the U.S. military is an expert in doing that? I mean, honestly, if you're going to have a paramilitary organization creating chaos on your border, that's a military action waiting to happen, in my opinion.

I'm just saying the situation was ongoing during the Trump administration. So are we to expect the administrative state, the Department of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services are executive agencies that are not elected and they're going to exist regardless of who wins, just like the IRS is going to exist. So someone has to reform that and dismantle that. And Trump, I think Trump in theory wants to, but he has to surround himself with people who have the balls to do that. And they will literally kill you. I mean, in Mexico, they kill people who try to change it. Now, I don't I don't that's a whole other a whole other subject. But you could do something that's more profitable. Like there is the whole remove one thing and add something new.

That's better. You could make the help. The cartels become a more profitable industry in doing things that are not so horrendous as drug and human trafficking. Human beings are worth more than drugs. Yeah. So another industry completely like industries can shift. That's one way.

Tech tech, you know, mining industry. If the cartel just learns to code, maybe they could program open source. Yeah, exactly, software development. I mean, I'm throwing things at a wall right now, but that's one tactic.

There was one moment in the film, and it's in the very, please watch this movie. In the very first moment of this movie, there's a scene where I actually go to California, and you can actually see the cartel at the fence with a saw, okay? And they're buzzing through the steel, these steel beams in California.

And I had planted recording devices on the beam so you could hear what they're saying. And they're saying, we need to get paid. And behind those men are people with guns. And if those guys retreat from their job of cutting through the fence, they'll get killed. And I am watching this and I pull up and I'm startled guys retreat from their job of cutting through the fence, they'll get killed. And I am watching this and I pull up and I'm startled and they see me and there's this whole incredible sequence

of events. And while the cartel is cutting through the steel beam with a massive saw, a border patrol agent is just watching. And I run up to the agent, I'm like, what are you doing? He's cutting through the steel. And the agent shrugs his shoulders and says, I'm sitting here, I'm like, what are you doing? He's cutting through the steel. And the agent shrugs his shoulders and says, I'm sitting here. I'm just, I'm sitting here waiting.

I said, what is your purpose? You're a law enforcement officer because I'm, why don't you just shoot that guy? It's just, it begs so many questions and it's so broken. Go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with everyone you know. Leave us a good review if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And become a member at TimCast.com because not only will you get to hang out in our Discord community so you'll meet like-minded individuals, you'll make friends. If you're looking for people to talk to and you want to share ideas with and just, you know, share good ideas with people that you might have. Timcast.com.

Click join us in that members only show will be coming up at 10. But I also have a big announcement. Listen, gentlemen, next week for the election, what are we going to do? We are going to be in Nashville at the Daily Wire studios. We are going to have our own studio set up where on election night, we will have both shows next to each other. And we're basically going to jump back and forth. I don't know the exact timing or structure, but Tim Castaer will be live all night for the election.

Daily Wire is planning on doing the same thing. And then we're going to at some point get up and I'm going to go over there. They're going to come over here and it's going to be a huge party. So it's actually really amazing that our crew and their crew and many others that were invited to this big election night party will be involved in this massive show. Not only is Daily Wire inviting a bunch of talent, but they have a bunch of invitees to their party. We are doing something similar. So there's gonna be a bunch of familiar faces. I'm really excited for this. And I also want to give him a shout out too, because you guys know I'm a huge fan of Am I Racist? And just as we're talking about just winning the culture war, they just launched Am I Racist on their Daily Wire members platform.

So I think Matt Walsh and the crew hit this one out of the park. It's a 10 out of 10. I really respect it. This is not a sponsor post or anything like that. They didn't ask to sponsor this or have me say this. I just genuinely think it was a great film. And I think you guys should check it out. And we're really excited to have this trip to Nashville. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a big show. So I was waiting to say anything until the last minute, but that's the plan. And then throughout the week, it's going to be awesome. We'll be doing the show from Daily Wire Studios.

In the meantime, we will read your Super Chats. Shane H. Wilder says, Justin Robert Young, political historian and host of Politics, Politics, Politics, asked to hold off on placing blame with the fire too early. The left immediately went after him, calling him far right. Interesting. We don't know who did it. Politics, politics, politics asked to hold off on placing blame with the fire too early. The left immediately went after him, calling him far right. Interesting.

We don't know who did it. Just that it is happening and it's scary. How about that? Derek asks, James, any plans to release the film to the masses prior to the election? Yeah, the number one comment I'm getting is why aren't you – everyone needs to see this. By the way, I want to answer this question, but the question I have is I think this film is – you've seen it. It's a moral film, not a political film. It's politically agnostic. I got to mention too actually one of my friends was like, is James pro-immigrant?

Like I don't understand because you're just tracking what's going on with trafficking. And it's like – but he's concerned about the victims of trafficking. I'm like, it's not a question. People are so Manichean that they have to frame it that way. Yeah, I think, has there ever been a conservative movement film that appealed the liberals? That stumped everybody. Because Walsh's film is great.

I love, I think the only documentarian I actually like is Matt Walsh. I love his films. I think 99% of people who buy the tickets are probably conservative. I've tried to create something here which will appeal to liberals and I mean that sincerely. But, Tim, you've been a journalist.

Good journalism costs money and you get what you pay for. So I'm not going to make this free. No great movie was ever free, as far as I'm concerned. It's at Tucker Carlson's dot com right now. Can we point out? I mean, the New York Times has millions of paying subscribers.

This is a challenge for us. I know it's not easy for everybody, but the left is more than willing to pay for their ideologically ideological victories. And that's and that's the challenge. It is the resources used to build institutions. And I don't think, I actually think the film, to answer the super chat question,

I think the film is going to be more mainstream and more successful, not in a heightened political state. To your point, you got to solve this crisis when Trump wins. And I will try to get this movie in theaters. I think it will go mainstream, but we need good journalism costs money.

There's a lot of free content out there. Really good. I spent a year on this film. I directed it. I sat in an edit room for six months, seven foreign languages, 1200 hours of footage. Great journalism is gonna cost you. Oh dude, the scene with the Chinese den or whatever,

these migrants that are Chinese and the guy wanting drugs this is crazy wild it's like curb your enthusiasm i just seriously he walks past like the press is here now you got a effing bulletproof i mean it's real to watch it yeah oh dude yeah all right all right here we go sideways says nah that joke was hilarious people really just can't take a joke left and right seems like only people who grew up on the internet liked it but either way it's like if you don't like the joke i saw some people who are puerto rican on the internet they were like i think the joke bombed but i don't i'm not mad at the guy i don't care it's just like it's whatever i'm not mad at jokes dave chappelle this is what i said i was like i

am shocked you know i was like one of the krasensteins said um you know i can't believe he made this joke and i was like i agree when When Dave Chappelle made fun of Asians, I was shocked. I was outraged that Netflix would allow such racism. Are we really supposed to care that comedians make jokes like this? Come on. Well, in the after part of the show, I'll play a slightly not too raunchy clip.

It's a roast. It's just a roast. Is it funny? I don't know. Do you find it funny? Maybe not for kids, though. Not for kids. Not for kids.

Yeah, there we go. All right, Jacob Bolley says, Tim and panel, how would you all feel with this reform? States keep their number of electoral votes under the Constitution, but they are awarded proportionally. For example, under this, Biden would have won 2020, 272 to 265. I don't know what that means, proportionally. Electoral votes are a combination of their seats in Congress. So what does that mean?

I don't know. Right? If they have one member of Congress, that's one vote, and they get two senators, that's three votes. So I don't know what you mean, sir. All right. What is this? What have we here?

SBC says BOP was used like thought long before it was used to describe the popularity of songs. It's an old Houston colloquialism. Is that the term that you used? Yeah, bop. Bop. What's thought? I shouldn't explain the meaning of it, though.

When you use it like thought, it's too vulgar. That's a bop. That's the gas. That's the riz. No. Or thought as a hot person. What? A thought as a hot person.

That means that hoe over there. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. A bop is like hot person? What? A thot is a hot person. Thot means that hoe over there. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. A bop is like the hoe over there of songs? No. Bop.

Urban dictionary. Bop is either the song or a bop is a thought, but I can't explain the bop who's a thought. I can't explain why. You bop the thought if you're having sex with hoes. It's not a term. Dex and Dice LLC says, ew, is it? Ractos for life. LOL, what say you, Moon Lord?

I thought he was black and red last week when I was thinking about it. Yeah, Ractos. I was like, I bet he's black and red. And then it showed that his favorite car, we're talking about JD Vance, by the way. Yeah, but it's monocolor back then. His favorite color is the Firex. What is it? His favorite car was Yawgmoth's Bargain.

Yawgmoth's Bargain. I pulled mine out. Amazing car. It's yours, actually, I think. The Yawgmoth's Bargain. Yawgmoth's Bargain. I pulled mine. Amazing card. It's yours, actually, I think. The Yawgmoth's Bargain? I think it's yours. It is. Yeah.

It's banned from Commander because you have 40 health. Okay, well, let's pause. They ran a smear against J.D. Vance. This is the... I was loving this. I knew it. He's not Rektos. We'll find out.

This was Earth's Destiny. Okay, they ran a smear against J.D. Vance saying that his favorite Magic the Gathering card can prove something about his dark ambitions. It's just a good card though. And so he said when I was 13, I played Magic the Gathering. The problem is when you're 15 the girls aren't interested in guys playing Magic the Gathering

so I stopped. He was asked what his favorite card was. He said Yawgmoth's Bargain. So for those that don't know anything about Magic, there's five colors. Each color represents, has an identity. There's white and black, red, green, and blue. Blue is control. Green is growth. Red is passion and aggression. White is honor and order. And black is ambition and sacrifice. So because he said his favorite card was a black magic card, they were arguing, a Democrat literally said, this represents how he would sell his soul for power. And I'm just like, guys, literally it's a children's game. Okay. I mean, adults play it

too because it's a strategy game and it's fun. But I'm like, if a 13 year old kid is playing a wizard game with black magic, it's not because he wants to sell his soul for power. It's because he wants to play a strategy game where he casts a fireball on his friend. And if he's using Yawgmoth's Bargain, it's because he's good. No, if he's using Yawgmoth's Bargain. The card is awesome. In 1999, if he was playing that card, it's simply because that was the best card. It's amazing.

That was it. Yeah, it makes sense that it's his favorite card. That's like my Tolarian Academy. Imagine if they said, J.D. Vanceance plays chess and his favorite piece is the queen. I'd be like, okay. That shows he wants power because the queen can move in every direction as far as it wants. I'd be like, no, it's just a good piece. His choice of white indicates his racism.

Yes, exactly. When he plays chess, he prefers to play white. Well, white's got a small advantage. That proves he's racist. That's basically a small advantage. That proves he's racist. That's basically what they did. Anyway, I was loving it because any opportunity to talk about Magic the Gathering is fun. Oh, it's so hot.

All right, here we go. Acoustic Theory says there is another case of eating the dogs. It's an outlandish comment. Oh, this is another case of eating the dogs. But it highlights the real problem that I didn't know about. There's an actual real problem with landfill space in Puerto Rico. A lot of people are saying that the greater context is that there's landfill problems in Puerto Rico and with the hurricane damage, he was saying a lot of stuff was destroyed and the news around it was basically like, hey, this stuff needs to get fixed. But the media doesn't care. They don't care about comedy,

any opportunity. And so I don't know. I think it's probably fair for people who are like, maybe you shouldn't have an insult roast comic this close in the election or something. Fair criticism. But I like comedy. I think Tony Henscliffe is a hilarious guy. And I thought the jokes were all funny. It's like a forum.

Like, you know, you wear a tuxedo to a black tie event. Maybe it's just one of those sorts of things. You just don't do certain things, certain places. But I don't know if that's true, actually. Michael Villafana says, I'm Puerto Rican and I thought the joke was freaking hilarious. My mom who was born in Puerto Rico would have laughed too.

She always called PR trash. It's funny too, how there's a lot of Puerto Ricans who are like, I thought it was funny. And there was one I saw, they posted on an accident like i'm more offended at the white liberals acting like they're offended for me uh yeah yeah like the white liberals thought it was funny though a lot of people pointing out that there's like real issues in puerto rico with like their waste management so it's like it has a journal a kernel of truth all right what have we here?

Wyatt Caldenberg says, Tim, Madison Square Garden has moved four times. The 1939 building is not the same building as today. MSNBC never fact check its own research, its own news reports. Yeah, that's right. The Care of the Bear says, Canuck here, Puerto Rico has a landfill problem, thus a garbage problem. Kill Tony wasn't wrong or racist or whatever. Also, can you be racist against a country for criticizing the state of the country like it's government no i don't think it's racist to be like if if you were to say uh insert african nation has

a problem with with waste that's not racist you're criticizing government you know i'll say that all the time. Yeah. Logic Plague says, burning ballots gives someone the ability to say, see, we have to accept ballots post-election. Or it gives them the ability to be like, see, the election is compromised because ballots were destroyed. That's crazy. Ginger McIsaac says,

a pick six is an interception taken for a touchdown. Yeah, you can't run a play. You can't run a pick six. an interception taken for a touchdown. Yeah, you can't run a play. You can't run a pick six. It can happen in football. Oh, it's like you're not planning for it to happen. Correct. And he said they ran a pick six. He said AOC can run a mean pick six. Yeah.

And they're like, how do you run a pick six? No. What does that mean, pick six? It means that someone picked off the ball, interception, and then they ran it back for six points, which is a touchdown. Oh, I see, I see. Ah, okay. I looked that up. Full transparency. Yeah, if it's

about skateboarding or Magic the Gathering, I can tell you literally everything, but if it's football, I don't know anything about that stuff. Although I do know that SNL was really funny, where he's like, we'll play football, and they're like, and this is the game where you kick the ball with your feet? No, you throw a ball with your hands. That was football to Medicano that's right what have we here the horrible miss drake says ballot box fire seems like a false flag the left is extreme and the right hates mail-in ballots i

wouldn't be surprised if republican is blamed i don't know occ Razor, just a crazy guy doing a crazy thing. You know, simplest explanation here, possibly. Yeah. It should not be in an unattended box. Yeah, they should be locked. Should all be locked. They are locked. You can still slide stuff in there. And then they slid it in the...

They shouldn't be in there. Yeah, they should be. No early voting. Just, no. That's ridiculous. Voting month? That's ridiculous. Election day should be a holiday, and everybody gets to go vote if they so choose.

It should not be mandatory either. I don't know. I'd be out of town if that were the case. Yeah, that's too bad. Me, too. So we have to go vote early. But I still think if we were in a circumstance where you had to be here to vote, we'd be here to vote. Yep. John says, what's it? Serosanguinous. There you go. People in Arizona were caught on video calling votes wrong. Dems registered are to vote for Nikki Haley. Tim thinks we're stupid. Why? Because I'm saying there should be three people counting each ballot. What is that? How is that stupid? You want only one person to be a Democrat to count your votes? Is that your argument? For real? Okay. So I don't know what you expect to happen. Debatably, yours says max number of voters in a precinct is 5000. National average is 3000.

We did recounts in Michigan took an hour to do a precinct with two people watching. Not hard to count paper, not hard to count paper belts. This is the issue that people understand. The Democrats are going to say, oh, but there's hundreds of millions of ballots. I mean, how are you going to count all these things? Because you only have like in one county, 300 something people in a small area and a handful of people count the votes and then they all agree. And then that number gets sent up and it's decentralized. The number gets added to the database. And at the top, we see what the number is. And changing one won't be the big enough move to change the bigger picture. That's the game.

All right. Stone Mesa has a music cast and I'm late. Thanks. Congrats. That's right. We have a new song called Hunger Inside coming out on Halloween at midnight. I want to play that promo tonight. Play the promo. Let's play it before we end the main show.

50,000 people need to hear it. We'll play it right at the end, and then James O'Keefe is going to play Plush. He's going to sing Plush by Stunt Temple Pilots on the Members Only show. Everyone's been waiting for this moment. Yes, I'm waiting for this moment. It's my favorite moment. That's great. Joe Spinello

says, wrong, Tim. we didn't always use paper ballots for the first 50 years when we went to the courthouse, put our hand on a Bible, the clerk held and swore under penalty of perjury that we haven't voted already and loudly made our vote.

Interesting. Bring that back, I guess. Everyone swears on the Bible. All right. It'd be cool if they just shouted like a cuss word, though though i saw that's supposed to swear dane peterson says it's my 47th birthday tomorrow and all i want is for everyone wanting a trump presidency to go vote all i want is for everyone wanting a trump presidency to go

vote for him i'm in deep red texas and i will definitely be voting red straight ticket i implore to do the same stop the bleeding i. I would just love to see California's got 10 million Republicans and like six million vote. Every you guys want no secret. AOC won her election in New York with about, I think, 79000 votes. There's an estimated 180 to 200000 Republican voters in her district or conservative leaning voters. You only need half of the Republicans in her district and you would get a Republican in New York, but they won't go. They might. They might now. That's the truth. If enough Americans become activated in one direction, they control the political narrative. Could you imagine AOC losing to the Republican? Not anymore. If you

are in her district and you're conservative, get everyone you know to vote and you will win and she will lose. How about this? Even if she wins, what if it was close? Imagine she'd be sweating bullets and she might start changing her tune, realizing that she could lose her election. I wish, though, I wish it's looking like in some jurisdictions like Pennsylvania, some of the polls are showing the Democrats winning the Senate race. But Trump is Trump is slightly ahead for the presidency because Kamala is that bad. Historically, it was never about getting out more of the base to vote is about affecting the moderates. But this time, it seems like everyone's about get out the vote. Yep. That's interesting change.

Look, if every Republican, if every Republican in every deep blue district voted, there would be zero Democrats in office. Is that possible? That's not possible. Theoretically, it's possible. Theoretically, it's possible. It's just that their Republicans are going to be like, I don't care. Right. Yeah.

Christians vote in low proportions. Throughout the 20th century, it was always about change the people who are in the middle. That was always what the strategy was politically. The word is that a higher density of Christians are not coming to vote. And for whatever reasons, Christians, like actual devout, they do not vote.

I don't know. That's why in Charlestown, you have a liberal city council and a Latin mass. And I'm like, how is this possible? And councilmen told me it's because the Christians won't vote. They just won't do it. Why? What I was explained to me is that many of them think that their duty is to God, not the state. So they think that going to church is

voting and they ignore their earthly duties. And it's greatly offensive to a lot of people because I'm sure there's a lot of Christians who are like, no, you must fulfill your divine mandate here on earth with your responsibilities and your duties. But the way it was explained to me is that a lot of these religious people feel like going to church is their duty and they need to do nothing else. I saw Kamala supporters rallying in Charlestown on Sunday. Did you see that?

No. Did you drive past? I drove past these people and I didn't see, I looked down the street, you can see literally this church and then these people with abortion as healthcare signs. Wow. Well, the- Where are we? The old abandoned pawn shop across from the casino is the new GOP headquarters.

I saw all the signs and I was like, what's happened to the old casino pawn? And it's got a big sign saying GOP headquarters. I was like, oh, would you look at that? There you go. Congratulations. Alright, let's grab some more. Uh-oh, what is this? Smith Creek Farms, it says, we lost our cat Pickle to FIV today. But in

happier news, thank you so much for shouting out our biz last year. You guys helped us grow more than you can imagine. You guys are doing great work. Well, shout out to you. Thanks for the super super chat sorry to hear about your cat that's unfortunate pickle pickle that's no good that's no good all right oh someone mentioned this is interesting interesting too barrett says also tax on unrealized gains big for billionaires yep a lot of billionaires are like we will not let this woman win yeah yeah that's like zuckerberg all those guys bezos is what an insane concept that is

lizard for thursday says i run a local election voter interference is against the law stopping a resident from voting is just that something a fellow resident can do is challenge another ballot for whatever their reason is he is fellow resident can do is challenge another ballot for whatever their reason is. He is fellow resident initiative. Huh. Interesting. Stephen Tom says, Tim, there's several videos of ballot boxes on fire. Crazy. Bridget May says, Vancouver isn't deep blue.

Suburbs are red. Joe Kent. Wow. That's crazy, man. Mizumori says, in your Supernatural video, you should have cited the Next Generation episode, The Devil's Due. The woman impersonates the devil using advanced technology. This is in response to an argument I made about the idea that something is supernatural is nonsense. So there's an argument on Twitter where someone was saying, it was Colin Wright, he was saying that just because we don't know the origin of life doesn't mean that we can make a

supernatural explanation for it. But I just was like, okay, well, define supernatural. And the problem is supernatural. He responded with not natural. And I just, yeah, I think God's, it's not the definition of supernatural. God's formation of life could be like a wave guide. I asked Jim Tour about this, who's a chemist, works at leading pioneer graphene scientists on Earth. He's also a creationist and thinks, we talk about the, where does life come from?

And physics and chemistry has been trying to figure this out. Could you use sound to guide amino acids in a wave pool to create life? And he's like, not as we know it. But that doesn't mean it's not possible like i think there's some sort of guidance that's causing things to form into matter and then matter into life my point is that there are a lot of people who are atheists and who are like the only way to explain something is based on what we think we know and i'm like what hypothesis hypotheses exist for a reason and the argument is the idea of a grand creator is

supernatural. Therefore, it's implausible and shouldn't be considered. And I'm like, that's actually really bad science. Just because God exists and you don't understand the mechanisms by which God exists doesn't mean it's supernatural. It's just beyond our current understanding, which is fine to say that's what supernatural means, if that's what you're trying to define it as. So one definition of supernatural is beyond our current scientific understanding. But if that's what the definition you're using is, to then argue we should not consider the supernatural as literally saying, if we are going to try and determine how something came to be, we should not pursue ideas that exist outside of what we already think we know.

Yeah. Don't assume that something supernatural is the way it is, but be open to the idea that it might be. All right, everybody, we are going to go to the members only show. So smash that like button, share the show with everyone, you know, become a member by going to timcast.com. If you're looking for new friends or people to hang out with who are like-minded, we have a discord server. As a member, you get access. You're in this chat room. You're going to make new friends, man, because it's great how many people got to know each other and hang out every day. And they do shows. There's pre-shows, there's after-shows, and you get access to the members-only show coming up in just a few minutes. We're going to go around with our shout-outs. And then after we do, I'm going to give you a preview of the new single, Hunger Inside, that's coming out on Thursday.

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You are the, what's that guy? Lawrence of Arabia in real life of our generation. I like that guy a lot. Lawrence Olivier, was that his name? Lawrence of Arabia in real life of our generation. I like that guy a lot. Lawrence Olivier, was that his name? Dude, you're the real deal, James. I love you, man. Thanks for coming. Thank you.

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Now for the members only, we're going to have James O'Keefe sing Plush by Stuntable Pilots, but if you've got one quick 40-second or one minute, I'm going to give you

a preview of the new song Hunger Inside as per the request of Ian, and here you go. Wait. In fact, I have to unmute it because it is muted. So let's start it over. Trump dance.

There you go. So that'll be out this Thursday at midnight. It will be available, hungerinside.com. We will see you all over at timcast.com in a minute. Thanks for hanging out.