Timcast IRL - Democrats STORM ICE Facility, Rep ATTACKS Feds, Democrat Mayor ARRESTED w/ Terry Schilling

Episode Date: May 10, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Brett are joined by Terry Schilling to discuss Democrat Mayor arrested after Democrats storm an ICE facility, Democrats defending politicians who attacked cops, Pakistan launching retalia...tory strikes against India, and Stephen Miller says Trump is seriously considering suspending Habeas Corpus.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett  ⁨@PopCultureCrisis⁩   Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Terry Schilling @Schilling1776 (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, I come to you tonight with grave news. Currently ongoing, Democrats are staging an insurrection against federal authorities in attempt to overthrow the government. Already, Democrat reps have attacked federal law enforcement and a Democrat mayor has been arrested for insurrection. Of course, this means that Republicans will be launching the 5-9 Commission to investigate why Democrats were storming into an ICE facility. An attack like this has not occurred since 9-11. If only we were Democrats, that opening would be true. But the reality is Democrats did storm an ICE facility. A Democrat rep did attack federal law enforcement and storm her way into a federal facility. And a Democrat mayor actually was arrested. But I'm not so stupid to think that
Starting point is 00:00:44 they were trying to overthrow the government. They're just breaking the law. But hey, if we want to, you know, tit for tat, I'll pull the law the way we're supposed to. I say these people get, what, two, three years in solitary, and then we'll see how they feel about their insurrection. That's the big news. It's kind of crazy. It's breaking right now. It's currently unfolding. We've got a lot of different video from here. We've got a couple different stories as well. Texas is going after Google announcing a major settlement for privacy invasion. We've got Stephen Miller saying they're exploring suspending habeas corpus. It's going to get crazy out there, my friends. And then, of course,
Starting point is 00:01:20 we've got Donald Trump signing an executive order to give free flights to illegal immigrants. So we'll talk about all that before we get started. My friends, we've got a great sponsor. It is Tax Network USA. Go to TNUSA.com and slash Tim and check it out. Tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement. Every day you wait only makes things worse. With over 5,000 new tax liens filed daily and tools like property seizures, bank levies, and wage garnishments, the IRS is applying pressure at levels we haven't seen in years. Increased administrative scrutiny means collections are moving fast.
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Starting point is 00:03:55 Guys, what is going on? It's Brett's normally pop culture crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m., but I'm here tonight. Let's go. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal and All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's go. We have this from The New York Times, my friends. Newark's mayor arrested at protest outside ICE detention center. Well, you may have seen the videos. It's quite alarming. And upon seeing The New York Times headline, I felt they're trying. They really are. But they're not getting to the truth.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So I decided to help them out with a new headline. Democrat insurrectionists lay siege to federal facility in attempt to overthrow government. 420 69th precinct cops dead. Such an attack has not been seen since 9-11. And everyone is sad because Democrats are committing a terror. Massive tragedy. Massive tragedy. Massive.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's just such a specific number and a specific precinct. It is quite a coincidence. The original joke we made is I didn't have the cops dying or whatever. And then I realized, oh, we've got to lie about cops dying because they still do to this day. There was, I think it was Cash. Was it Cash Patel, I think, was talking to some woman. And she said insurrectionists beat and killed police officers. And I'm like, yes, they just make that stuff up. They just make it up. But we do have videos. So
Starting point is 00:05:11 let me show you what we got here. This is the video of Newark Mayor Baraka being arrested. Check this out. There he is getting arrested. And you may be wondering why. And it's because of this. Check this out. This is in the red right here, attacking federal law enforcement. That's a Democrat rep. And you can see Democrats.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And when I say Democrats storming an ICE facility, I'm not talking about, like, voters. These are actual elected Democrats storming an ICE facility. It's crazy. I say lock them all up actual prison what would they do to us i mean what would they do to marco rubio what would they do what would they do to a parent that had the audacity to go to a pto that's right and say they didn't like the curriculum that's right they might have the fbi look at them throw them in jail throw them in in prison let's get a trial going i want to see him go to prison is this for cliques i mean they're
Starting point is 00:06:10 obviously trying to get arrested yeah it is about it is uh connected to the fact that democrats have nothing to actually run on because essentially again they're at an ice facility they're complaining about the the quality of the place, that whether or not it meets standards or whatever. But really, they're just complaining that Republicans are going to go ahead and, you know, deport actual criminals. And this is boilerplate stuff for the Democrats. This is what they've been doing, standing up for criminals, not just standing up for, you know, people that are here illegally that just standing up for for you know people that are here illegally that are just trying to you know stand the radar and and work a job which i think
Starting point is 00:06:50 they should get out of here too but they're actually looking the democrats are actually looking to stand up for criminals because they're absolutely retarded well and they're all criminals themselves yes look i i think that dems are in deep, deep trouble. You know, there's two elections most recently where the incumbent president maintained control of both chambers of Congress. 1998, Bill Clinton, Republicans overstepped on Lewinsky stuff. And then 2002, when Dems were obstructing President Bush's national security agenda. I think that this is way worse than obstruction because this is destruction, right? They are involved in an agenda that's destroying our kids, destroying our country, and they are representing criminals.
Starting point is 00:07:33 That whole Salvadorian guy, the Maryland manhooks, they had to pull the plug on that because they saw the numbers in the polling were so bad for them. I want to agree with you, but I'm still of the opinion that, well, I agree with you on everything you're saying, but I am still of the opinion that the economy is still going to be the big factor when it comes to, you know, the midterms. So if the economy is doing okay, which, you know, I mean, as of right now, you've got, you know, you um the deal that they just made with the uk there are a couple other deals they started talking about if they can get actual deals and get the stock market to chill out and get the average person to feel like things are okay economically i do think the democrats are in serious serious trouble if the economy is not there i'm then i'm
Starting point is 00:08:21 iffy about it i think you're right oh it's okay're right. Does that lend a little bit of difficulty to Trump's approach where it's just like with all of the executive orders and everything that was done, it's like a, I think I heard it described as like a carpet bombing approach to politics and that does leave people feeling a bit uneasy. Is that perhaps something working against him
Starting point is 00:08:40 that may be unintended for the midterms? I think that it could, but Donald Trump is a pragmatist. He's not an ideologue. He is going to do something, and if it doesn't work, he is going to change course. He will come up with whatever story makes him look good or however he can spin it to make him look good, but even if it's almost a bold-faced lie,
Starting point is 00:09:00 but he will change course because what he does want is positive results for America. He's not an ideologue. He's not like, oh, we have to do this even if it costs me political points. The thing that he wants is results for the American people. Yeah, and he pays attention to the polls. He is a very astute politician. He knows how to sell his stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I do think, though, Phil, the economy could be humming, but I was a little bit bullish because we all know Republicans tend to screw things up. They are very good at that. There is no denying that. Well, then, OK, so let me ask you this. So you mentioned that you said that Democrats don't really have anything to run on right now, or at least it's felt that way for a very long time. If we were trying to like armchair quarterback for them and actually give them a platform that doesn't run them headlong into everything that Trump is doing, because most of what Trump is doing does seem as if it's at the very least good for the American economy down the line, how would Democrats change course
Starting point is 00:10:00 and then find an actual platform that will do something for them? Well, look, I think the Trump question has been answered. I think the American people want to move on. We litigated. He won in 2016, whatever the narrative is. I think the 2020 election was rigged, but he wasn't in office, and then they put him back in in 2024. So I think Americans want to move on. I think the real opportunity is to have some reasonable Democrats pull a tip O'Neill,
Starting point is 00:10:28 start working with them to secure the border, clean up immigration. They know this stuff's a problem. Kick out the violent offenders. No one will punish Democrats for teaming up with Republicans to get out the violent offenders. But I also think that there are some easy wins when it comes to tax policy. Democrats are the party of tariffs. My dad was a one-term member congress the number one attack against him was that he wouldn't uh raise taxes on companies that ship jobs overseas team up on that go against the slave labor company countries like china
Starting point is 00:10:55 and i don't know i think it's now time for them to seem reasonable drop the trans stuff like you gotta drop the trans stuff this is actually a 90 10 issue at this point drop the trans stuff like you gotta drop the trans stuff this is actually a 90-10 issue at this point drop the trans stuff stop trans and kids get this crazy stuff out of school stop weaponizing ever gets parents I don't know moderate a little bit the only position they have is orange man bed yeah right and they're too ideologically driven to do that so it's too it's too embedded in their platform now whatever that platform may be uh if you use hollywood as the mouthpiece in the media as the mouthpiece they've spent too long talking about 90 10 issues years on the 10 percent um that they can't walk that back in any meaningful way
Starting point is 00:11:36 and i think that the ideological rot within the party makes normally like they have to go towards wedge issues because all of the moderate policies go against the stronghold of the ideological people there. Part of the problem is they've spent so much time demonizing Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is a populist, working class, a pro-working class kind of guy. He reshaped the Republican Party, and now he owns the middle. He owns the working class kind of guy he reshaped the republican party and now he owns the middle he owns the working class democrats used to own the working class but they have lost them because they decided to go with the with with identity with the racial identity politics and try to
Starting point is 00:12:15 focus on that they could have aligned with donald trump and been extremely strong and had a lot of the policies that they preferred economic policies that they preferred have the president totally backed them but they've just they decided that they were going to treat him as if he was hitler blah blah blah and and try to demonize him and now i don't think that they have the ability to come back from that like you're saying i don't think they have the ability to come back from that and actually become a middle of the road party again though they i do think the opportunity is there i just don't think that they have the people in the Democratic Party that'll do that. Well, you're bringing this up, and I want to ask you the question because I work in elections. This is like my life. Winning elections, the key to it is striking that delicate balance between
Starting point is 00:12:58 firing up your base, making sure that they're motivated to go to the polls on election day, especially in his midterms, but then also not being too crazy for the moderates. My question to you guys is, do you think that Democrats have jumped the shark and developed, with all their hysteria about Trump, developed a super extreme base that will abandon them in the midterms if they don't go crazy? Well, it's split, right? So when we looked at Democrat favorability, for one, favorability generally is way down. But this is largely due to Democrats hating themselves. AOC is the front runner in terms of favorability, but she has 10%. So it is this massive field. The reality is there is no
Starting point is 00:13:34 Democratic party anymore. There is no unified presence. There is no unified ideology. There's no party mandate and there's no leader. So you've got a bunch of different worldviews, a bunch of different ideologies, a bunch of different ideologies, and none of them get along with each other. What? Okay. Except for we hate Trump. Well,
Starting point is 00:13:50 do you think a Barack, do you think Barack Obama, let's say he was, or he would, you could get a third term. Do you think if he ran for the nomination, do you think he would get it? No.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Oh, yes. Um, I was going to say, he won't win. He's not going to win. Uh, he,
Starting point is 00:14:04 he, he, Obama represents a party that doesn't exist anymore. Right. Those middle, He won't win. He's not going to win. Obama represents a party that doesn't exist anymore. Those middle-of-the-road voters that voted in Obama switched for Trump. So, in fact, I would argue that if he did win, the reason why I think he could win the primary, superdelegates, I don't think he'd have an easy go of it. They rigged the game on that. Right. He wouldn't have an easy go of it. Well, and there's nobody else with any even close to the name recognition that somebody like him has. That's why they always float.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Deporter in chief? He can't stand right now. Look, I think there's a lot of, for the diehards who know that that happened or understand that, that may be one thing. But for the average everyday person, they don't know that Barack Obama was called that, nor do they know anything about the amount of deportations that happened under his watch. They have kind of rose-tinted glasses for those years, not realizing just how... The virtue signaling of the Democrat base would require them to bring up any and every issue. So right now, considering all the ICE stuff, Obama's got no move. And back when he was in office was before the rise of social media.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And he really was kind of steel manned as the kind of savior that he was by the media. And that kind of the bloom is off the rose when it comes to stuff like that now. Yeah, I mean, it's my sense that there's still a lot of normies that are not politically plugged in that like you said the they would still feel like oh obama was great i don't know if there are enough to actually get him into office again but he did i mean he did lose um he lost votes in the second term people were like all right well this wasn't quite what i had hoped for and i do absolutely think that that a lot of the Trump voters, they are Obama voters. But like that was, you know, representative of of what we were saying, which is the Democrats have lost the middle. They've lost the working class people because they have been the party of the very rich
Starting point is 00:15:56 and the dependent class for so long, at least 10 to 15, 10 years at least, you know. Do the Republicans still struggle in the midterms, though? Without Trump on the ballot, they tend to struggle. And it seems like they lose seats whenever they lost seats when Trump was in his first term, when they went into the midterms, if I remember correctly. I could be misremembering that. And then, you know, red wave. No, like it feels like when he's not on the ballot, the base is not motivated to come
Starting point is 00:16:23 out in the same way. That's true. They tend to the party in power does tend to lose in the midterms. So where, you know, I don't there wasn't a red wave, but I do think that the Republicans still won more seats in Biden's midterm than than I don't think that the Democrats took over. I don't remember exactly. But that over. I don't remember exactly. But that's what I'm saying, though. Like when Trump isn't on the ballot and if he's in office, then it feels like they're going to lose, like you said, because they are in power right now.
Starting point is 00:16:52 So they're going to cede some seats. I think that it partially depends on the map, but I think that it's likely that they'll lose some seats. But the way that the people that are up for election, if I understand correctly, it's favorable to the Republicans. Yeah, no, the Senate map is very bad for Democrats because they have a bunch of open seats that are held right now by Democrats. There's not a lot of competitive seats with Republicans as incumbents. Good. And plus they have Georgia, which I think we could actually take back this year.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Awesome. It's not very popular. As long as Marjorie could actually take back this year. Awesome is not very popular. Just as long as Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't run. I'm not liking that. I mean, she can be fun and funny, but what? You think she'll lose? I think she'd lose, yeah. I think she's a little too extreme for the average Georgia voter, personally.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I don't know. I'm looking at, I mean, Democrats just stormed an ICE facility. Everybody's, there's no middle. And I think what Democrats are doing here is going to be bad news for them is going to be eaten up by Republicans who are going to be like, see, if you want chaos, vote Democrat. Trump's offering up plans. Here's what I want to do. Here's what I hope will happen. And some say those plans are bad. Democrats don't even have plans. Listen, there's nothing that I want more than to be wrong about that. I want to see Republicans
Starting point is 00:18:03 take the Senate and take the House. Absolutely. I'm just apprehensive about if they're actually capable of doing it. So it's not like I'm like, oh, screw her. I would love to see Marjorie Taylor Greene win. I just don't think that it'll happen. Can I get something on my chest real quick? Sure.
Starting point is 00:18:18 No, you can't. This big, beautiful bill that they're talking about. So we are so close to actually for the first time ever defunding Planned Parenthood. It is very close, but there's like 10 members in these tough districts who are raising holy hell about it. It's my problem is this, you have Planned Parenthood that gets over a half a billion dollars a year in federal funding to abort more babies, sterilize more women and sterilize children through these transgender surgeries.
Starting point is 00:18:47 We have a birth dearth. We have $37 trillion in debt. And on top of that, Planned Parenthood is going to spend another $60 million on electing Republicans this year. And I just don't understand, like, if this was a pro-life, you know, crisis pregnancy center network all across America helping people have babies, there's no question Democrats would cut that. In fact, we don't have anything even close to the Planned Parenthood. I don't know what the hell's wrong with these guys. I mean, look, I don't know, but I know that because of how, I don't know what's wrong with those guys, but I know that
Starting point is 00:19:18 because of the situation, because of omnibus bills and because you want to get your stuff passed, you have to eat a ton of garbage to get your stuff passed everyone just pours their you know their their pet projects into the garbage pail and then everyone says well you know we hate all the stuff that you're going to get but at least we're getting all of our stuff so they hold their nose and vote it i hate omnibus bills for that reason but there's you know the we just don't have the votes to actually have the bills that we want passed so you have the stuff you get you have to do with omnibus the only way't have the votes to actually have the bills that we want passed. So the stuff you get, you have to do with omnibus.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The only way to have the votes is to have like 275 plus. That's never going to happen. Congress is dead. Congress is a dysfunctional branch of the government. All we need is a new president. The presidency is overpowered. Well, but you've got a judiciary and an executive branch that are both in and of themselves. Judiciary is way overpowered.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Right. And the legislative is doing nothing. So the judges are giving these universal mandates, which are unconstitutional. And Donald Trump is trying to use every semantic argument he has under codified law to do what he wants to do. You've got two branches that are asserting extreme authorities, and then you've got the legislative branch doing nothing. So I just think, you look at what's going on with Democrats now trying to storm into an ICE facility, and I'm like, guys, do we expect this to get better? I mean, we keep saying it's going to get worse. I mean, come on, time travel test.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Go back three years and say Democrats would storm ICE facilities. They'd be like, what? But your point about these being elected officials, these are not like Antifa goons or anything like that. These are actual elected officials that have to worry about elections. Democrat elected officials attacked law enforcement. Let me say that again for you. Elected Democrat officials, a member of Congress, a mayor,
Starting point is 00:21:00 physically attacked law enforcement. Prison. How is that possible? I was told nobody's above the law i mean you know it's it's i'm i don't i don't care about any semantics or whatever the or argument like platitudes the point is we are now at the point in this country where elected democrats are physically attacking law enforcement well you know this is in new jersey and new jersey has statewide elections that they have a governor's race this year in November. I really hope that, you know, there's just Jack Ciatarelli that's running.
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's really good. He almost won in the last election. They have to capitalize on this. They need to be running campaign ads with these mayors, and all of these elected officials just punish the hell out of them over it. I mean, I would love to see them get punished. I'd love to see them go to prison. I would love to see, I mean, I just. Do you know what will happen if they go to prison?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Summer of Love 2.0. Escalation. I do not see how this does not escalate. I mean, certainly there is a pathway forward where the left just doesn't come out and protest. Fine. But they're all defending this. I mean, let me... What do we got?
Starting point is 00:22:03 Ed Krasenstein, right? You know him, you love him. This is the scene at DHS where Newark Mayor Rasparaka is being held after his arrest by Trump's Gestapo. I mean, bro, they attacked law enforcement, got arrested for it. It's not a Gestapo, it's a regular cop. Like, if you walk up to any cop and hit him, he's going to arrest you. It's not a
Starting point is 00:22:19 Gestapo. He's going to go to jail, I mean, he's not going to prison yet. Does he have the whole video there or is it an edited video? He's banking. He's banking on nobody seeing the video of the actual attack and that the low info voter will look at that and be like, oh my gosh, Trump's Gestapo is arresting federal employees. Here's a video. Newark Mayor Ross Brocco was arrested.
Starting point is 00:22:58 We'll skip that. He's literally attacking cops. He's trying. It's so obvious. Get your hands off of me, brother. They're attacking cops. These are Democrat elected officials physically attacking law enforcement. And they're doing it because they want to be arrested.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It's all theater. Right. So arrest them. Throw them in jail. And now here's the response from the serfs. Masked security forces arresting their political opponents as part of a regime accelerating a fascist takeover. It's such clown world BS. Yeah, fine.
Starting point is 00:23:43 But the point is they're escalating it every single day. And then when they punch a cop and the cop arrests him, they go, oh, no, the fascists are attacking us. Yeah, it's exhausting because you see this kind of behavior from the left consistently. If they can't get what they want you know pass legislation they do these kind of tactics is this the point where we say it's fair to say this is civil strife when elected democrats are attacking law enforcement they're getting arrested judges are getting arrested you had six people democrats in texas arrested for fraud for election fraud what happened with that there were uh council members and judges
Starting point is 00:24:25 are a judge i think it was one judge and a couple council members as well as other democrats uh political campaigners were arrested for a fraud ring they were doing voter fraud and it's accused of the scary thing about this is you've talked about it before is the these tactics have been used at protests for years to kind of incite the cops and then only record what happens when the cops retaliate so that you can post about the cops acting like fascists. And that was when you were talking about regular everyday protesters, not actually employed government officials. I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:57 to call them regular everyday protesters is a little bit of an overstatement because they're, because they, yeah, because they do, they, the tactics that they're using, they are planned out.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It is not like, oh, this accidentally happened. They go there with intent to do a thing, to get the image. And in the social media world, where you can do things like just grab that little video clip off of anyone that has a phone around you, it's extremely effective. Pro-level protesters. Pro-level. There you go. Pro-level.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But, I mean, I don't know what else to say other than they're going to keep doing this. Yeah, it's only going to get worse as the summer goes on. Yeah, and I don't know what the effective counter for this is. Video, having the evidence and the ability to post out what actually happened. Because back in the day, you wouldn't have had, there would have been limited sources of information and the people who posted. If only one person has the clip and they only show you the edited clip, then you're never going to get the full story. But being able to record and get the whole thing out there is important. I'm not sure that i agree and the reason is because you know we were talking earlier before
Starting point is 00:26:11 the show about the people that still believe the very fine people hoax you've got the whole video out there you can show them and they see it and they still deny it so the point is but those people are always going to be though it's the it's the normal people you're those are the people that get fired up and i don't even think that it like it it takes of it's a very small percentage of the population that will see something believe it see more information and then say oh i was wrong oh okay so you're saying like you like being able to be show be shown the whole video after only seeing the clip. Yeah. And the little clip is enough to inspire people to say, oh, no, bad things are going on. I have to get out in the streets. So my point being is like, what action on the ground do you do to prevent that?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Because you can't let them just walk over you and do whatever they want. And then as soon as you have the police go out there and actually do what is legal which is say okay we're gonna have to arrest you for trespassing you're trespassing you're breaking the law and they say oh the gestapo's here and they get the clip like what's the effective means of of defusing it before it turns into a propaganda thing for the left and because this is something that the left has done and they have manuals. That's what that book Good Trouble is. The whole book is about doing these type of political operations to basically psyop people.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Rules for radicals. Exactly. I kind of want to push back just a little bit because the Dems almost they almost got out. They thought they were going to get away with the Maryland manhooks. Right. But they didn't. They had to pull back on that because the information just kept coming out and got out. They thought they were going to get away with the Maryland man hoax, right? But they didn't, they had to pull back on that because the information just kept coming out
Starting point is 00:27:48 and coming out. I think there has been not a good enough shift, but I think maybe an enough shift where the Dems are actually sensitive. So this, I think, you know, you see this video, you're going to know it's a stunt.
Starting point is 00:28:03 This was obviously planned out. I just think that it's changed. It's not the 2016 stuff. And I just don't know how many people actually think that Trump is a racist. I don't think he would have won in 2024 if they still believe that video from 2016 or 2020 or whatever. It is shocking how many people still believe the Very Fine People hoax. And to be fair, it is mostly boomers. And the people that are most pro-trump are gen z right and they're they're almost totally inoculated to this accusations like racist and stuff like it is interesting because we uh i
Starting point is 00:28:36 recorded a show with adam conover earlier so there'll be some spoilers you'll see it next week because we aired the Culture War Live one. He didn't know the verified people hoax was a hoax. He legit thought Trump actually called Nazis verified people. And we ended up talking about how every demographic is pro-Trump except for 70 plus, every age demographic. And so it's an interesting phenomenon then when you take a look at what the left is trying to latch on to when every demographic is except for um i think 40 is a tie yeah and then every the demographic is pro-trump so if the younger generations are pro-trump what are these like liberal podcasters hoping to latch on to there's no market for what they're what they're proposing except for the boomers who with all like
Starting point is 00:29:21 the older boomers right because boomers are 60 plus but the 70 plus crowd is within 10 years you know passing on do you know what will be left of the liberal movement i don't know but do you think that the those that approval rating with the older uh you know trump's in the tank with old with the oldest americans you think that's because they're the least online that they're the least likely to get this and they're the most on msnb. That's an interesting thing that you brought up, Phil, because Phil was talking about how people being shown videos after they've seen the initial clip, you see the 11 second clip that's been shown to make it look like, oh, they were just arrested for no reason. Look at how fascist everybody is. And then when you show them evidence to the contrary,
Starting point is 00:30:02 they almost kind of rebuke. They don't want to actually believe it. And I feel like that's maybe that's just a difference between now and back in 2016 or closer to 2020. Like when I started seeing evidence of just how badly clips were being manipulated by the media, where clips were being edited to prevent you from getting the full context of something that enraged me. It didn't make me want to push back and not believe it. It made me angry to believe that I was being lied to about something like that. But now it's like there's almost too much ego around, you know, when you get your information, you want to believe that you're right. And especially if you're online enough and you're talking a lot about politics, it's hard to be like I was wrong. Right. So it's almost like it's it's a fear response to not want to admit that you got something wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And that's led a lot of people down. Everybody always. Humans have always been. But I mean, that doesn't make it any less true for the situation. And if a lot of people aren't changing their opinions because they're scared of being seen as having gotten gotten, gotten by somebody else, then they're not going to, then they're not going to want to admit it. It's impossible to not got got. Yeah. Because even the gotters will pull you out of context.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And that's that's largely what they do. It's largely a phenomenon of the liberal left. And it's because they don't actually read the news. For example, we had Tara Palmieri, my pronouncing her name, right? Yeah, I think so. And she didn't know the Very Fine People hoax was a hoax. She thought Trump actually called Nazis fine people. And then again today, you know, when I was talking to Adam Conover, same thing. And I, you know, I don't want to spoil too much, but he just said, look, I'm not in your bubble. And I'm like, this is just the news. It's not a bubble. It's just, do you read CNN?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Because I do. It's also like that's their implicit trust of the media. If they read the headline and they said, this is what he said. No, but sorry. This is the point. They didn't read the headline. They heard it from someone else. So if you actually read the headline, Snopes debunked it.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Headline straight up says, no, Trump didn't do this. How long ago did Snopes debunk it? A year ago. Okay. But they haven't read the headline since it happened in 2017. Sure. And then it's just in their brain. I don't think they read the headlines at all. You don't think they read it at all?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I really don't. That's why they believe things that are not true. They hear talking points from pundits or clips or Jen Psaki and MSNBC. They don't actually look into these stories. Or John Oliver. A better example is they probably get their news from John Oliver and Jordan Klepper. He's insufferable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 It's all lies. Yeah. It's not funny. John Oliver is not funny at all. Well, he's funny in a Do you ever watch King of the Hill? You ever see King of the Hill? Yeah. Remember when Bobby was doing the morning announcements and he couldn't get any joke to land? So Peggy was like people are stupid. Bang the cowbell on the left. And so then she's like, I'll show you how to do it. Say a line, and then I'll holler and bang the cowbell, and you're telling them to laugh. That's what liberals get from their news. So they laugh at John Oliver because he tells them when to laugh. Did you see,
Starting point is 00:32:59 okay, during COVID, Bill Maher did a whole episode where he didn't have a live audience, and when you don't have the audience laughing with you, it just falls all flat. It's crazy. I think that's bad. You should have seen when WWE was trying to do shows with no audience. That was 10 times worse. Hey, guys, we did the Culture War Live, and that went up today on YouTube and Rumble. It is a whole different ballgame when you're doing a debate and you have an audience.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It's a million times more fun, entertaining. And even the liberal dude or arguments he did, we are laughing and having a good time. It's way better with an audience. Phil, did you heckle people? Oh, I was hollering. Excellent. Excellent. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, Phil. Pisco was frustrating. Phil was scary. He was beet red. And we were like this. It's a hoax. Pisco was frustrating. Phil was scary. He was beat red. And we were like. Pisco was. It's a hoax. Pisco was very frustrating.
Starting point is 00:33:48 A lot of the things that he was saying were really, really frustrating to listen to. But he's got balls. He does. He got up there. He's like, I'm going to come and stand in a room of 60 conservatives and libertarians and tell them why they're wrong. Yeah. And I was like, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:33:59 That's pretty respectable. Yeah. Absolutely. You know. Yeah. I mean, because most of them are too scared to do it. Most liberals don't want to do it. So I respect the ones that do.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But you should definitely watch the show. We're going to do more. Go check it out. And if you can come out to a live one, come. I'll be there. It'll be fun. We can holler together. No, I'm going to come to the next one.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You should definitely go. It'd be great. Hearst says, Tim got spicy AF. Did I? What was spicy? I don't know. Oh, wait. On Culture War?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah. Okay. All right. It was good. It was like, what was said here tonight that was spicy? Well, you know, I'll bring up one of the things I brought up then because it applies now. You know, I asked Will specifically, Will Chamberlain. The judiciary is doing whatever it wants.
Starting point is 00:34:45 These universal injunctions are unconstitutional. Donald Trump is actually, Kristi Noem said this to me. We are using every law and every interpretation that we can to get Trump's agenda through because the courts are trying to block us. And so if you want to approach this from a neutral view, Trump is using every tactic in the book and every every word that can be arranged as such to do what he wants. And the judiciary is saying we can issue these rulings that affect the entire country unconstitutional. So what do we do as a country? You know, Will started saying Congress is supposed to do these things. And I stopped him. I said, Congress can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:35:22 What happens in this country when you have two branches that are just going to keep doing what they want? There's two factions fighting for control of one government. And the legislative branch is over here just napping. The other issue I brought up, too, is we have laws on the books we don't adhere to. You can't put a pie on your windowsill on Tuesdays in Boston, whatever. I don't know, those old laws, they don't adhere to right you can't bake up you can't put a pie on your windowsill on tuesdays in boston whatever i don't know those old laws that don't make sense anymore so clearly
Starting point is 00:35:48 and this is you know i guess anarchist philosophy the only laws that matter are the ones that get enforced by those who have the power to enforce them which means the democrats can will and already have violated the rights of many innocent americans and the president himself. If Trump doesn't bring a commensurate force to that political force, we will all be crushed. But we know what they're doing was unconstitutional and shattered decorum. So we ask of Donald Trump then go and arrest these people who are destroying the country. And all that will lead to is civil war. Well, I think this was an oversight from our founding fathers, God rest their souls. They expected lawlessness. They expected tyrants to try and take power.
Starting point is 00:36:32 But I don't think they foresaw entire branches of the government that they set up refusing to fight for their own interests, right? That's kind of, yeah. You know, I think they did, but they couldn't predict a lot of things. I think the speed of the Internet has dramatically changed how humans function. For instance, the you know, there's the AI bot accounts that are making weird Trump stories. They could never have predicted that. And so these things shatter the brains of regular people. To be fair, fair however they did say
Starting point is 00:37:05 only landowners could vote only men landowning men and and white men at that look i mean they were like who cares what happens only we can vote right i like legitimately i am like i do think that they were on something when it came to limiting the franchise like having everybody in the country be able to vote is probably not a good idea because most people don't vote anyways. They only vote for the president. The fact that Congress has done everything it can to shirk its duties, Congress people don't want to be held accountable for any of their votes,
Starting point is 00:37:40 so they've done everything they can to shuffle off power and authority to the executive branch which is part of the reason why the bureaucracy is as big as it as it is they've shuffled off war making authority to the president which is which was demonstrated with the whole um authorization to use military force um they really the reason they don't do anything is because we've allowed them to not do anything. And to be honest with you, the authority that the executive and the bureaucracy has is far beyond anything the founders ever intended. And the fact of the matter is the government isn't supposed to be as involved in our day-to-day lives as they are. The federal government has no place,
Starting point is 00:38:22 whether it be Congress or the bureaucracy, has no place deciding how much water can go through a faucet. No, there's no. And the EPA does it all the time. It has no business being, you know, making these kind of decisions. So a big part of the problem is that the American people have allowed that to get there because we're not paying attention to what Congress does and because we're not paying attention to how congress has has given power to the president to the bureaucracy it's like we were um talking earlier this week about uh trump putting tariffs on hollywood and how putting tariffs on hollywood is because hollywood wants tax subsidies i'm like no i don't want a single federal tax dollar going to the absolute evil propagandists that are making all of the material that make you look bad in the first place. If a state wants to do that, if California wants to do it because it bolsters their economy locally, that's fine. They can vote on it in local elections.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But the issue of tariffing movies is how? Well, yeah, because it's classified as a service, not a good. Right. And it's digital and online, and it's like, I can understand if you're going to put penalties in, but what if a movie's about Africa and it's like... Well, it's about movies being filmed in foreign lands, so it's... Right, so what if a movie is about Africa, so we go to Africa and film the movie?
Starting point is 00:39:40 Well, they do the same thing when they put new rules in place as to who could win Oscars, and there had to be racial breakdowns for characters. Like, well, what if it's a movie that took place in Italy or something or in Ireland? It doesn't make any sense. And they found ways around that and stuff like that. Yes, but the question is for a tariff.
Starting point is 00:39:56 It's not like there is a film reel being brought on boat or flown into the country. Instead, you could do a DVD. If people still cared about DVDs, I guess you can sell steelbooks and you can do that, but I don't think it's what they want anyways. I think what they want is they want him to give them tax breaks because Gavin Newsom's like, hold
Starting point is 00:40:12 up, let's talk about this. And everyone in California's like, let's talk about this because it's beneficial to their economy. I don't think the federal government should be doing anything in relation to Hollywood. We've got a thousand things we need to figure out before we even think about going over there. Let's fix the rest of our problems. But that's
Starting point is 00:40:30 to what Phil is saying, is that the government is too expansive and too involved in way too much of our lives these days. What do you guys think about, you know, part of what Trump's trying to do is inspire more patriotism and get more American values in there. What if they had some pro-America movie grants where it's going back to the founding fathers and it's got to have pro-America themes? I say no. No. Like, the issue there is I don't want...
Starting point is 00:40:57 It's difficult. We don't want the government to incentivize ideologies lest they be weaponized for ideologies against us. I can understand the argument in some circumstances where I've literally argued against this very thing. Like they, you know, when people say, oh, but if you if you use the powers of the executive branch, then the Democrats will use it against you. My argument there is we're talking about holding politicians accountable for crimes they committed. And so if they committed a crime, we arrest them. That's normal.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But empowering the government to then give money and spend our tax dollars to promote a message. Yeah, I don't want some weird DEI guy to get in there and then get a hold of that institution and turn it against us. What we need to do
Starting point is 00:41:37 is we need to build an independent private culture around pro-American values, which basically means everybody give Mel Gibson money. Yeah. I say like you can solve that right now. They made a Reagan movie last year. Did anybody go to see it? Not really. private culture around pro-American values, which basically means everybody give Mel Gibson money. Yeah. You can solve that right now. They made a Reagan movie last year. Did anybody go to see it? Not really. I say it all the time. Captain America. The first Captain America movie,
Starting point is 00:41:58 conservatives weren't raving and saying every conservative should see it. The conservatives love to rag on woke things, but they do not promote based things. Right. So let me just say it again. The original Captain America movie, you've seen it? I saw the original, yeah. I said the original, but I don't know how many they made. The 2011 one. The 2011 one.
Starting point is 00:42:14 You have a scrawny, sickly young man who's lying to join the military to fight for his country. It's beautiful. And then because of his merit, jumping on a grenade and having good strong American values, he becomes a super soldier. They grant him the super soldier serum through the army, no less. He's recruited by the US government who do an experimental procedure to make him a great soldier. And then he defeats the Nazis, the evil Nazis that were worse than the Nazis, mind you.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah, the extra evil Nazis. The extra evil Nazis. Conservatives didn't come out and say, this is an amazing message. They just said nothing. Because they don't care about actual art. They don't care about art. Yeah. And remember, Captain America Winter Soldier is the best movie Marvel ever made. That's unfortunate that it's true. Yes. But like I say, if you want to make those movies, you can. The thing is, you have to get audiences to come out for that. They came out for Sound of Freedom, right? The audiences showed up for that
Starting point is 00:43:08 because it resonated with conservative audiences because the discussion about child trafficking and things like that was very, very important. Plus, at that time, it was being kind of
Starting point is 00:43:17 like Streisand effect by the media's weird dislike for the movie. And everyone's like, what do you have a problem with a movie that criticizes human traffic? I want to say as of Captain America, I liked winter soldier,
Starting point is 00:43:30 but I do want to point this out. When you don't come out politically, like the left does, the left comes out and demands woke stuff. Captain America, scrawny guy lies, joined the military, does. The next movie, do you know what Winter Soldier is about?
Starting point is 00:43:49 You know how I describe it? The government has actually been infiltrated by the Nazis and is the bad guy now. Well, I mean, a lot of it is a lot to do with Nick Fury and his peace through strength model that Cap disagrees with. But the premise of the film is that the Nazis infiltrated the US government's military apparatus and Captain America to be a good soldier who believes in his country has to destroy S.H.I.E.L.D. which is akin to
Starting point is 00:44:16 our intelligence agencies. They did that same formula. That's how they ruined Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones, well at least the first and the third they had pro-Christian same formula like that's how they ruined indiana jones right like indiana jones well at least uh you know the first and the third the they had pro-christian themes and then the fourth one comes along and it's just like oh no it wasn't god it was aliens you know i gotta take everything i said back winter soldier's based it's a good movie our intelligence agencies have been taken
Starting point is 00:44:42 over by communists yeah they have yeah and shut Captain America's going to come in and shut it all down. He argues with Nick Fury about that. He's like, we have to do it. We have to have ships in the sky that can mow down people without a moment's notice, no due process, and caps. He's like, well, that's not really what we fought for in World War II. We fought for freedom. You're fighting to just hold a gun to everyone's head and call it freedom.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And did you know that when the scanners are going off showing names, one of them is Stephen Strange? Oh, early callback before. I guess that would have been, what, two years before? Winter Soldier was 13? 2014. So it would have been two years before Doctor Strange. Yeah, Brett knows more about this than I do. I haven't even seen Thunderbolt.
Starting point is 00:45:21 He's right. You mean New Avengers. I'm not calling it that. That's actually in the film. right. You mean New Avengers. I'm not calling it that. That's actually in the film. I know, I know, but I'm not calling it that. No, no, it's in the movie. No, I know, but I'm still it's still a marketing ploy. They filmed that stuff four weeks before the movie came out.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Oh, right. Because they were like, no one's going to watch this movie. Yep. They put a star on it and they killed Taskmaster. Yeah, which people were mad about from Black Widow to begin with, that they weren't going to get the legit task. They got rid of Taskmaster because it was woke. Which is sad because that actress is great.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah. And let me just say this. You don't need to know anything about Marvel other movies. Here's what happened. They released the Black Widow film. And there's a character in Marvel called Taskmaster, which is this big brutish guy who has a skull mask. And then in the movie,
Starting point is 00:46:08 the reveal at the end is Taskmaster's actually a woman. And then suddenly it's half the size of what you have. They did that in Scream 4 when they have like the hulking size person playing Ghostface and then it's a girl and she's suddenly like three feet shorter than. So then with Thunderbolts, this new gender swap taskmaster
Starting point is 00:46:25 gets shot in the head within a minute and i think that was them like kevin feige's like we're firing all the woke people we're firing everybody there we have burned a billion dollar industry because of what they've done and so it literally starts with lady taskmaster and bang just no more taskmaster anymore got rid of it i don't don't know. I'll wait for Disney Plus for that one. The movie's enjoyable. You should see it. I really do want to go see it.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's good to me. Yeah, it's a fun little cheesy action flick. I'm going to go see Fight or Flight, the new Josh Hartnett movie on the plane. It's basically
Starting point is 00:46:58 a train on a plane. I heard Sinners is cringe, but good. Yeah, from what everybody said, I went to see The Accountant 2. That's the only one that I've... That's out now, isn't it? Yeah. I want to see that. Sinners is cringe, but good. Yeah, from what everybody said about it, I went to see The Accountant 2. That's the only one that I've... That's out now, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah. I want to see that. Who's in that? Is that Ben Affleck? Yeah. I want to see that. Ben Affleck and Don Bernthal. Sinners is...
Starting point is 00:47:17 People are raving about it, but I'm hearing from a bunch of conservatives, they're like, it's super race-obsessed woke garbage, but it's a good movie. Well, I mean, that's... Ryan Coogler is a very, very good director. He directed the Creed spinoffs of Rocky. He's very good at his job.
Starting point is 00:47:35 It's when people argue to say you can't make good woke movies. That's actually not true. You can. It's just really, really difficult. Well, the problem is woke people are. What's the right words? I don't think it's necessarily low iq it's a combination of caged there's not much room you can navigate without getting attacked but also like unlearned you know what i mean it's kind of like when we say that they still think trump called nazis fine people like they're they're they're they're so i don't know they they don't know how
Starting point is 00:48:10 to read they don't learn new things so they're not interested like they're they're they're not authentic yeah i mean i try not to use the word okay so like i was recently i posted like i just want to see season two of high potential it's this very very basic like network television procedural that i really really like starring caitlin olsen from it's always sunny in philadelphia and since i couldn't watch it it was too woke for me like can you tell me what in the shit like there was nothing in it that was that to me so the word has lost all meaning in a lot of ways so unless it's the example did you see the picture of the show My Lady Jane that had the black disabled King of England?
Starting point is 00:48:49 That's now the benchmark I use. If somebody's trying to describe Woke to you, you show them the scene from My Lady Jane, which is a black disabled King of England in the 1700s. And that's pretty much the ballpark definition. If it's that, I can call it it. Otherwise, it seems to be a matter of opinion. I'm really excited for that queer black woman
Starting point is 00:49:09 to play Jesus Christ. Oh, God. Well, that's Jesus Christ Superstar, though, right? And it is funny that they were like, how dare Trump mock Christianity while they stand with drag nuns and... Yeah, the baseball game or whatever. What's that group called?
Starting point is 00:49:24 The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. Thank you. I would have never remembered that. But yes. Yeah, that's just them not being honest. That's just all they do. They pretend to be outraged by things. Like, this is the thing I see with liberals.
Starting point is 00:49:39 They're like, Donald Trump is an authoritarian. And, you know, my question is, okay, assuming that's true, is that distinct from literally any other administration? Well, is it just that, like, the news didn't report anything negative about a candidate they like, so they just don't know about whatever potential authoritarian? Well, Obama wore a tan suit.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Yeah, he did. Shortly after murdering a 16-year-old American citizen, but that's another story. Wait, I thought the tan suit was his only scandal. Fast and the Furious never happened. Fast and the Furious never happened. Nor did Operation Timber Sycamore. Wait, what's that?
Starting point is 00:50:13 Giving ISIS weapons. Oh, of course. I'm going to pull that one up because people don't believe that's real. Operation Timber Sycamore? No, like the whole history of the U.S. government is arming the people that end up trying and killing them. Mujahideen. Yeah. Timber Sycamore was a classified weapons supply
Starting point is 00:50:30 and training program run by the CIA and supported by the U.K. and some Arab intelligence services, including Saudis. The aim was to remove Bashar al-Assad and supplied weaponry and training to Syrian opposition in the Syrian Civil War. So in July 2017, U.S. officials stated that Timber Sycamore would be phased out with funds possibly redirected to fighting the Islamic State.
Starting point is 00:50:53 The issue was the anti-Assad groups that ultimately rose up was ISIS. There's part of me that thinks that it it was it wasn't such a great idea to to support isis and and the terrorists in in syria and again like it's something like this how how heavily was this reported on by the mainstream press and the reason why people have such uh rose-tinted glasses for that time period is you were still getting your information filtered through legacy media sources that were probably being told by their counterparts in the intel agencies to what to report on, what not to report on. So they have this kind of, I imagine it's a feeling of safety where they feel like the world was safer back before 2016. But as much as that coincides with Donald Trump's initial election, it also coincides to heavy use of the internet on your phone and ease of access to information and the democratization
Starting point is 00:51:52 of how we get our news, which is a very, very different thing now. I'm just reading about Timber Sycamore. It's funny. Obama, yes, Obama indirectly contributed to the arming of ISIS. Support for Syrian rebels under Obama, the CIA launched Timber Sycamore. These groups lost territory, defected, and then collaborated with the jihadis, forming ISIS and al-Nusra. Yep. It's so perfect. So Fast and the Furious is just, it's all the same thing, you know. There was a post yesterday about how Bill Gates said that defunding USAID is killing the world's poorest children.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And I was like, you mean like Zunzaneo in Cuba where we had the CIA fund building a social media app so that we could influence regime change in Cuba? Those children? I'm not so sure that he's right. No. I think he's wrong. I think he's wrong. I think he's wrong. I think he's wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:47 So, uh... You know, the meme with Ukraine was like, in 20 years, we'll be fighting the Azov Battalion with the weapons we gave them. Because this is what happens, right? So you have the Mujahideen becomes al-Qaeda. You have the anti-Assad organizations eventually take all that training and weapons and join ISIS and al-Naeda. You have the anti-Assad organizations eventually take all that training and weapons
Starting point is 00:53:06 and join ISIS and al-Nusra, and now we're fighting them. And so everyone's like, stop giving money to these rogue groups. We're just going to have to keep fighting them. But that's what they do. Yep. Well, what else would they be doing with your tax dollars?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Well, no, it keeps them employed, though, right? It gives them a sense of purpose. It keeps them busy. It's job protection. It's security. Yeah. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible idea. Well, what is the next group that we end up fighting? Is it the Azov Battalion?
Starting point is 00:53:38 I don't know. I think that it'll probably be some Middle Eastern organization that we're funding right now. Fantastic. Israel. be some Middle Eastern organization that we're funding right now fantastic is real pager was about they're gonna start sending pages to Americans no no no disavow they'll have they'll figured out to put it into iPhones by then don't worry won't be pager maybe I hope Maybe. I hope not. I like my iPhone. And I like my... Anyways. It's like only the Android users will survive, because
Starting point is 00:54:09 all of you iPhone users... Boo! Boo! Sorry about it. No, I don't... I don't think that... I don't think that we're going to end up fighting Ukrainians. I think that that's probably outside of the realm of possibility. Well, we do have this story explosions started three pakistan air bases including nur khan this
Starting point is 00:54:30 is breaking news we had the biggest dog fight since world war war ii just the other day it's not stopped the escalation has continued between uh india and pakistan so maybe we'll have to take sides in that conflict and we'll be fighting uh china because they're they're uh aiding pakistan and uh we are going to be on the side of india well you know i mean it makes sense that we would We'll have to take sides in that conflict and we'll be fighting China because they're aiding Pakistan. And we are going to be on the side of India. Well, you know, I mean, it makes sense that we would be fighting China because we don't get along anyways. I don't care what anyone says. We're not just rivals with China. They're our enemy.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Do you know what's truly fascinating about this war is that we are now watching untested weapons finally get tested. Chinese made fighter jets fighting Western made fighter jets in India, Pakistan. We don't know how they perform against each other. They've not been battle tested. Now, the scary thing with this is the U.S. and China are looking at what's going on and it's giving them data as to whether or not they can win a conflict. If the U.S. or China is thinking, you know, in the intel, like, hey, we don't know if our fighter jets are going to handle the Chinese advanced jets we've never encountered in combat. So that gives us pause. Are we prepared to enter a conflict when we don't know what their
Starting point is 00:55:42 weapons are capable of? After watching this, they're going to say yes or no. So this actually opens the door that we come closer to a greater war. People really should be talking about the new modern weapons finally being battle tested. That's scary. I don't think we're in a good spot with our jets either. No. With the F-35, no. The F-22 is still looking is is still looking pretty if i understand
Starting point is 00:56:08 correctly it's pretty good the f-15 is still undefeated though right so granted when it comes to like the the modern like the fifth gen aircraft yeah like they're untested and maybe not but the f-15 that airframe is undefeated so we and we have the most advanced uh aeronautics package in the f-15, that airframe is undefeated. So we, and we have the most advanced aeronautics package in the F-15. So we've given, you know, or we've sold a lot of F-15s to Israelis and to other countries. And they've not been like, there's not a MiG that's been able to shoot down an F-15 in combat. F-15s are still, they were the top dog until the F-22. The F-22 in simulated stuff has been able to take on multiple F-15s are still, they were the top dog until the F-22. The F-22 in simulated stuff has been able to take on multiple F-15s. So I don't know 100% that the F-22 is, you know, is all that it's, you know, talked up to be.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I do know that there are problems with the F-35, but I don't think that they're, I don't know how many are actually in combat and stuff. I know they had issues when it came to production. But the F-22 and the F-15 are still top, top of the line, and they're incredibly capable machines. So I can't say much for the F-35. I know that Pakistan has F-16s. They both have a lot of MiGs. They both have a lot of Chinese fighters. So I don't know what
Starting point is 00:57:25 kind of results you're going to see um because it also it does depend on tactics and the pilots themselves if you're not actually getting air like getting time in the in in the simulators and and in the uh in the air it doesn't matter well i don't i can't say that it doesn't matter but the the skill of the pilots does matter you know because they don't have the most advanced technology like i assume the f-22 does a lot for the pilot and especially the the ability to like shoot missiles to add targets that you can't see with your eyes and stuff that radar you know you can awax up there with a couple f-15s they can see stuff that's beyond the horizon and stuff. You can shoot a missile from like 100 miles away or something. Yeah, it's pretty cool technology.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Have you ever seen the meme of Pedro Pascal driving the car and he's like smiling really loud? It says, life when India and Pakistan get in a nuclear war and all the scam calls and texts stop suddenly. Yeah. I mean, small blessings. You know, if that's what has to happen. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Look, a nuclear war, nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan would be bad for the whole world.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Because even the small nuclear bombs that they have are devastating. And as soon as someone else uses nuclear weapons, it only lowers the threshold necessary for another country to use a nuclear weapon. Right now, it's only the U.S. that's ever used them. It was in World War II, and everyone's like, whoa. And now we saw what could happen with thermonuclear weapons because you know fat man and little boy were just atomic bombs and they annihilated cities thermonuclear weapons are thousands of times stronger and they're far more frightening and thankfully nobody has has decided they want to use one in conflict uh but that's not to say that if there are nations that start using them, that other nations won't respond. So if they were if Pakistan were to nuke New Delhi directly, I mean, this is the strength of their strongest bomb. It's bad, but.
Starting point is 00:59:38 The blast, they'd have to fire like 15 to actually or more to cause serious damage to the. And don't get me wrong, it's going to kill a ridiculous amount of people, but 45 kilotons. Is that their most powerful bomb? Yeah. Yeah. Let's just try a warhead yield of like, I don't know, a single megaton bomb. Do we want to do the Minuteman or should we, look, we got Ivy Mike,
Starting point is 01:00:02 10 megaton bomb. The Titan first. Titan first Titan to us. I CBM. Yeah. The first hydrogen bomb, right? This is the Titan to warhead. The U S it's the highest, uh, uh, kiloton I CBM the U S has ever deployed.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And it wipes out all of new Delhi and everything around it. That's that's, but that's all. That's only kilotons, not megatons. No, no, it's 9,000. That's a nine megaton bomb. Okay, all right. So let's do 45, which is what Pakistan's got. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:34 So it's bad. It'll take out, you know, a handful of neighborhoods of New Delhi. I still do think that the concept, once other countries start using them, it'll change the way that people think about. It's true, but I think people need to understand that in nuclear war, in any kind of war, it's not just nukes. No. It's not just—what I mean to say is, if someone uses a 45 kiloton
Starting point is 01:01:06 nuclear warhead, it does not mean we retaliate with all of our most powerful nuclear warheads. There's a scale of what a nuke is. It's not just nuke, catch all. So if New Delhi launched a 45, let's do this, if Russia launched a 50 kiloton
Starting point is 01:01:22 bomb into Ukraine, that doesn't mean we're going to launch a nine megaton bomb at Russia. That makes no sense. But people think it does. People think, no, they won't use nukes because then we'll nuke them. I'm like, no, we won't. If they if they launched a battlefield artillery, 40 kilotons or whatever, and just wiped out a bunch of Ukrainian troops, not a single nation would retaliate well that's on the same lines where people think if the u.s were to strike uh iran that the entire middle east would erupt into a a war where everybody's trying to kill each other and people are more measured than that countries are more measured than that um our countries are more measured than that and if if one state were to use nuclear weapons that doesn't mean a full nuclear exchange of the United States and Russia using all of their globally mutually assured destruction policy. But it's still not good.
Starting point is 01:02:18 What's that? This is the, I put in the amount of kilotons that the Moab. Oh. Remember the Moab. Oh. Remember the Moab? The mother of all bombs. That's how big it is. It's impressive, but it's not a nuke. Yeah, it's definitely not a nuclear bomb.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Although, you know, the preset that I'm using has a radiation blast to it. Let's just, I always love pulling up the maximum yield Sarbamba. Yeah. Everything dies. I always love pulling up the maximum yield Sarbamba. Yeah. Everything dies. The biggest bomb ever designed, but never deployed. Okay, so what does the darker yellow mean? In the middle?
Starting point is 01:02:54 Fireball. No, no, sorry. On the outer right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You will be burning alive. Your skin will be peeling off from flames. And then the gray area, that's like... Shockwave blast.
Starting point is 01:03:03 A lot of people will die from the shockwave. Some people will get knocked down. Some people will die getting knocked down. A lot of injuries. Broken glass, buildings shaking. And then there's going to be radiation even outside of that. No, this... Sarabamba is a non-radio...
Starting point is 01:03:16 It's not radioactive. So radiation isn't... Well, let's clarify. There's thermal radiation, which is the heat, but the ionizing radiation, not all warheads actually have that. That's an intentional design function to cause you problems. Oh, it's insane, the levels that they've designed this stuff. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:03:35 So I added radio to fallout to the Sarabama, and you can see there is nothing. But let me try IV mic. Yeah, see, IV mic is actually radioactive. So what happens is after 10 minutes. Oh, the wind takes it. Yep. What would that look like over Mecca? I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Joking. Well, I mean, it is interesting because that's a very serious target. And there would be concerns. It's going to ban you, dude. There's no way it's going to let you. What do you mean? No, I mean, look. What is the best guess?
Starting point is 01:04:11 Let's try this. What is the best guess? I mean, imagine making Nuke Map and not letting somebody pick a specific location. nuclear weapons. It's not run by Google. Who runs Nuke Map? So the best estimate for Israel is that they have a 100 to 400 kiloton
Starting point is 01:04:28 bomb some speculate israel may have a megaton bomb so let's do this let's just say 500 kilotons because we're gonna we're gonna split we're gonna split the baby on that one oh come on it would i typed in i'm sorry i I got to do that. There we go. Wait. Oh, okay. There we go. That's what it looked like. Oh, that's atrocious. 500.
Starting point is 01:04:52 So if Israel were to decide to nuke Mecca, that's what it would look like. That's my contribution. Great. I don't know that... I don't know how... I i mean there are people that are offended well i mean this is not there's nothing offensive about this israel is a jewish state at odds well that's where you would strike yeah no that's right that's right i think that they would i mean i think that they would probably go for um they probably would not go for religious sites. They would go for Tehran,
Starting point is 01:05:25 but they would go for military targets. Let's say they got a megaton bomb. So did the Joint Chiefs have Trump pull up Nuke Map when they're discussing battle plans? Is this what they do? They probably gave us Nuke Map. This is probably the civilian version of what they have. Probably. It's the one they put out in the probably the civilian version of what they have. Probably.
Starting point is 01:05:45 It's the one they put out in the 90s. That's what we have now. You get it after the fact. Yes, we'll always. But, I mean, either way. Such a morbid, morbid... The guy coding Nuke Map. Nope, that is spelled wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Hiroshima. Hiroshima. But that was a 15 kiloton bomb. That's, wow, I mean, like, huge. Jesus. Yeah. I mean, that's I.V. Mike, but we actually have Fat Man and Little Boy. So, Little Boy, there you go.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Blew up. Man man that's crazy so they so Hiroshima didn't have significant fallout then huh no I don't believe so old bombs that's terrible yeah the the Russians built Tsar Bomba King bomb which is and the only test they ever did was 50 megatons. Yeah, they hit half yield. Which is, yow. Whoa. Yep. Yes, there's coast to coast. Japan's actually enormous.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I didn't realize how big, because it always looks small on the map, but it's an enormous country. Like the size of California. Yeah. Is that how big it is? Eh, similar. They're not exactly, but.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Looks right. Yeah, man. But let's jump to this next story. Talk about how things are going here in the United States. We got this from Mediaite. I like this. Stephen Miller says Trump is actively looking at suspending habeas corpus. Let's rotate.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Hold on. There's a question back there first. I have two quick question. First, President Trump has talked about potentially suspending habeas corpus to take care of the illegal immigration problem. When could we see that happen, do you think? Well, the Constitution is clear, and that, of course, is the supreme law of the land, that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So I would say that's an option we're actively looking at.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Look, a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not. At the end of the day, Congress passed a body of law known as the Immigration Nationality Act, which stripped Article III courts, that's the judicial branch of jurisdiction, over immigration cases. So Congress actually passed what's called jurisdiction-stripping legislation. It passed a number of laws that say that the Article III courts aren't even allowed to be involved in immigration cases. Many of you probably don't know this. I'll give you a good example. Are you familiar with the term temporary protective status, or TPS, right? So by statute, the courts are stripped of jurisdiction
Starting point is 01:08:24 from overruling a presidential determination or a secretarial determination on TPS when the Secretary of Homeland Security makes that determination. So when Secretary Noem terminated TPS for the illegals that Biden flew into the country, when courts stepped in, they were violating explicit language that Congress had enacted saying they have no jurisdiction. So it's not just the courts aren't just at war with the executive branch. The courts are at war, these radical rogue judges, with the legislative branch as well, too. So all of that will inform the choices the president ultimately makes. Yes. Was that Elad speaking right there? That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I got to play it one more time. So did you have any seen? Real quick. Yes. Sounded like Elad. Yep. That's hilarious. I got to play it one more time. Have you seen? Real quick. Yes. Sounded like a lot. Yep. That's hilarious. So I just saw that on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Did you see the Lincoln Project tweet? Yes. Criticizing? No, what was it? They were just complaining. It's a cell phone. It's the Lincoln Project criticizing Trump for suspending habeas corpus. I mean, it's the worst cell phone in history.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Well, because they're hypocrites and they're stupid. They don't read. And they don't know Lincoln. Yeah, look, I mean, it would be it would it's not unprecedented. And by the community, that's Abraham Lincoln unilaterally. Oh, the timeline we live in. I hope the people watching are entertained. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It would be good to... Ultimately mix, yes. Mr. Miller... I do want to just say, Stephen Miller is doing a fantastic job giving Americans a civics lesson. He's doing so many great things. Looks like he's having a blast.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah. Remember when they claimed that he was making a white supremacist hand gesture? Because he was straightening his jacket and he was like this. Oh, is that back now? Is this? No, this was first term. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:10:14 He grabbed his jacket and was pulling his jacket in like this. He was buttoning it. And they got a picture of his hands like this. And they said it was a white supremacist hand gesture. So it was like a double white supremacist hand gesture. It was like a double white supremacist hand gesture. Is that an okay? Oh my God, wait. Come on.
Starting point is 01:10:38 No, this is some fake nonsense from SPLC. Oops, can I spell it wrong? Is that it? Let's see if we can find that picture. There it is. There it is. We got it. Ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Here you go. Did Stephen Miller throw a white power sign? Throw it. Oh, my God. Look at this image. Oh, my God. What is he doing? Why is he touching his tie like that? Do you remember the guy who lost his job for throwing something out his window?
Starting point is 01:11:09 He was making that sign. He was a construction worker or an electrician or something. Yeah. What was that? Yeah. Just a guy was like, and he wasn't a white guy, if I remember correctly, threw out his window a cigarette or something, and his hand was making an okay okay sign and he like lost his job
Starting point is 01:11:29 it was back in during Trump's first term I think it would the the the entire society basically lost their mind yeah for a few years there they never got their mind back I think the things are a little more chill now. I don't think you get fired for throwing something out a window where someone sees that they thought that you made the okay hand sign. Yeah, but there's other kinds of insanity like, you know, firebombing a Tesla station. Tesla dealership. Yeah. Or charging station.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah, California man fired over alleged white power sign says he was just cracking his knuckles. I hope he sued me. I hope he sued and got like just an unlimited amount of money. doubt it i don't think he did but uh what about suspending habeas corpus yay or nay yay i'm very much for it i want to see i want to see people well for non-citizens right so if you're here legally we don't have to put you in front of a in front of a judge or anything but you they still have to determine whether you're a citizen or not yeah i mean that you know i don't think you need to go in front of a judge for that did you guys see there was a riot broke out in Massachusetts? Yeah, in Worcester. Yeah, the illegal immigrants getting arrested and the neighbors started attacking the cops. They should go to jail too.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Let me see if I can find that. That's a big story we probably should talk about. You know, I saw it on Reddit. What is it? Massachusetts? How do you spell Massachusetts? M-A-S-S-A-C-H. What a silly word.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I think suspending habeas corpus for non-citizens is considered due process. They're getting the process that they're due, right? Sending them home. Check this out. Check this out. So there's an illegal immigrant being arrested, and then people come out and start attacking the cops. Every last one of them should be arrested. Well, the scary thing is, at a certain point, if these are like TDA MS-13, we're getting close to treason.
Starting point is 01:13:35 The cops should round them all up. The cops will get there. They've got body cams on them. They can identify them. Round them all up. Jail. And you know what happens after that, right? No, what happens?
Starting point is 01:13:54 When the cops go and arrest an entire block of residential people. Oh, well. I mean, look, you can't just say, all right, it's fine. We're not going to enforce the law. I understand that, but it's not about that. The point I'm bringing up is you have entire neighborhoods aiding and abetting illegal immigration for which the prescribed law is that is a crime. What is it? 8 U.S.C. 1324.
Starting point is 01:14:19 I think it is. Let me see if I have my code right. 8 U.S. Code 1324. Is that it? Yes, it is. 8 U.S.C. 1324, aiding and abetting illegal immigration. So what do you think it is that has primed U.S. citizens to interfere with these types of things? We have allowed for three generations non-citizens to take residence in this country and have families. And so now you have individuals
Starting point is 01:14:46 who, let's say there's like, normal American guy lives in a house and he's lived there for 20 years. His neighbor is old Rita, he calls her. She's been there as long as he knows she was there before him. Illegal immigrant. The government has largely allowed them to stay and hasn't enforced against it. The neighbors, they all know old Rita. Okay. So when the cops come and say she's here illegally, we're arresting her and deporting her. The neighbors are like, what? She's my neighbor. She's lived here for decades. So they're going to fight the cops. Yeah. The other issue is that you create whole communities of illegal immigrants. Yeah. They're going to fight the cops because they're going to be like, we're going to stay.
Starting point is 01:15:20 You can't kick us out. So sure. The cops can come in and they did. They arrested the daughter of the woman who was being arrested and they can start arresting people who live there. And the end result is going to be civil war. And a lot of it is like for the cases where you're talking about people who are members of MS-13 or gangs, I think that so many Americans have been kind of just hit with endless propaganda about what illegal immigration looks like. And while there are the cases of, like you're saying, the family that's been here for 20 years, they're law abiding, they don't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 01:15:55 The people aren't taking the time to wait and see whether that's what's happening. same to them arresting somebody who could be a member of MS-13 or a gang than they are, you know, the woman down the street who hasn't broken any, at least any laws while in country. There's no answer to this. I mean, if people start attacking ICE, which we're seeing now from Democratic elected, Democratic party members, elected officials and residential neighborhoods. Yeah. elected officials and residential neighborhoods yeah um i i'm not saying that this will make a civil war start tomorrow i'm saying that police come in and start arresting these people who rioted and they say it was a riot they attacked cops the left then rallies and says trump is
Starting point is 01:16:40 sending in federal law enforcement to arrest literal neighbors of people who are trying to save themselves from being disappeared. They're going to start saying things like Trump disappeared. A Maryland man like Hassan Piker genuinely believed he was from Maryland. He's from Maryland. What do you mean? Dude didn't know. They don't read the news. The narrative will then persist that Trump's SS is going around and rounding up random people. And then you're going to get Antifa emboldened and you're going to get shootings insurgency chaos which in turn will result in trump insurrection act arrests escalation the
Starting point is 01:17:10 left will then what ends up happening with this stuff the the simple question to ask anybody why did your average southerner fight in the civil war do you know the answer average i would say slavery no no why did the average southerner fight in the Civil War? Because they believed that the North was invading. They were conscripted. Because their home was attacked. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 01:17:33 There's nothing else. Some dude's on a farm with no slaves, and Union soldiers start marching through, firing guns, and they say, oh my God. Now, the powers that be wanted to uphold slavery. They wanted to put in their constitution but secession was a convoluted thing largely related related to the issue of slavery but for the average southerner it was they're attacking us that's it only i think three to five percent
Starting point is 01:17:58 of the south actually owned slaves most people didn't yeah and so you're some bumpkin on a farm being shot at and you're like, I'm at war. What's going to happen then when federal law enforcement starts arresting these people? There's going to be a guy who is going to say, I don't care about illegal immigrants. I don't care about the left. I don't care about Trump. I want to watch football. But a bullet went through my window when law enforcement came in and was shooting at these these insurrectionists or whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:28 These people who live in my neighborhood, I have no choice. I live here. I'm with them. It's fascinating that people don't understand, like they don't think through the basic breakdown of how these things happen because they haven't read what the people fought in the Civil War actually said. Like, you know, Bill Maher's like, who's going to be fighting? There's no north and there's no south. And everyone says that. And I'm like, there wasn't back then either. The generals for the Confederacy went to West Point. And they were actually having conversations when the states were seceding with the other generals,
Starting point is 01:18:53 like, what do we do? And then it was, was it, it might've been Jackson. No, it was Robert E. Lee. And he was like, I have to make a decision now for my country or my home. And I don't know what to do. And then he went home and he said, I've chosen my home. But they were all friends with each other.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Or they knew each other. They went to West Point together. So people don't seem to understand, man. It's crazy. I do not see an off-ramp. We literally have a video where residents are attacking cops because the cops are are enforcing an arrest warrant for a deportation and then a woman gets arrested so where does that go one answer is that nobody escalates the trump administration says don't go and arrest anybody who was there or involved
Starting point is 01:19:38 let them just do it maybe i mean that's that unfortunately i think that that's probably the way that it would go because that's what trump and then the left says we need to get violent and de-arrest these deportees like we do at the riots if they get violent then they but they did get violent and the left has something they call a de-arrest they they wear black blocks so you can't identify them in court and then get away with crimes and if if a cop is arresting someone, they run up, grab the person, shove the cops, and pull the person out. De-arrest. That's what they call it. If the police don't arrest these individuals who are interfering with ICE raids, the left is going to be like, they're going to show the videos to people and say, trust us, they will not arrest you for this.
Starting point is 01:20:22 And then you get 100 Antifa attacking ICE agents. No, that's true. not arrest you for this. And then you get a hundred Antifa attacking ICE agents. No, that's true. But they can do this. The police still have other means to wrap people up, right? Like they can go to houses when there's not a mob of people around. These people have places. And then the video is going to go viral
Starting point is 01:20:38 and the left is going to say- You can always come up with an escalation. But if your point is that there's going to be an escalation and that there's nothing that we can do, that's fine. But I'm telling you what the police will do. That is the point it's always been. Then that's fine. But the point that I'm making is the police will continue to act. They're not like they're not.
Starting point is 01:20:58 You cannot have. The police will not allow the total abolishment of of all law they're going to behave they're going to do things that they need to do and this and this is the long-standing point i've been making for seven years now when we were watching left and right beat each other mercilessly in the streets and i was looking at them calling donald trump a traitor unprecedented things are happening in this country and i said wow this is going to escalate. What happened? It literally did in the most psychotic of ways that you could never you couldn't have possibly have dreamed up.
Starting point is 01:21:32 The J6 riots were crazy. Charging Trump with 34 fake felonies is crazy. Arresting his lawyers, crazy. And where we are today, it's only gotten crazier well i mean i i do agree with you and and i've been you know i'm right there with you saying i don't see the off-ramp you know and that's and the point is like this is nuts man and it kind of goes back to what you're saying about how they don't have a platform on the left right now outside of just not trump like if they were politically expedient in trying to work to actually win elections they could find somebody with a moderate platform to calm people down but the most fervent people in their party
Starting point is 01:22:12 are also these who are acting the most rash so there's nobody on that side to be a calm voice to get everybody together to get them to coalesce around new ideas. They've only got anger. They can't because you're not going to convince someone who is a communist to not be a communist. What I think people need to understand, and many of you probably already do, you don't, you rarely convert a person. Most people who hold an ideological view had that since they were young. And so what's happened with the left is that you have all these different factions of Democrat liberal. And you can see this in like the peer research data, how it's, there's a spike in the left, but then there's like, there's a, there's a wide,
Starting point is 01:22:54 a wide range. A moderate lib is not going to agree with a communist. They'll vote together probably though. So you're not going to be able to get a politician who's going to be able to effectively communicate to communists and to moderate libs. So there's not going to be a coalescing around any ideas other than Trump bad. The only thing they share, all factions, is we hate the right. Well, I don't see
Starting point is 01:23:20 like I said before, I don't see the off-ramp. I don't know that it's something that is gonna you know turn into a problem this particular year because it is an off year off election year election years tend to be the ones that are the most spicy but I also you know I don't I don't know what's gonna happen in the next six months so well is there also is there an off-ramp in just the fact that so much of it is I mean mean, we're talking about ice, we're talking about, um, stuff like that, but it's a lot of coalescing around the hate for Trump, but he's not up for reelection would,
Starting point is 01:23:54 you know, in the next term. So who do they transfer that over? Cause it has to eventually move on to whoever they end up putting up for election in 2028. I don't know if you can build the same level of hatred around another candidate. Trump has this unique ability to really, really upset a specific type of person and really, really make another type of person laugh. And that's very divisive. And I don't know if there is that person on the right that is going to have that same level.
Starting point is 01:24:22 We've talked about this a little bit in the past week. They were trying to set up that DeSantis was worse than Donald Trump. When DeSantis seemed like he was doing well in the polls, the left was, you saw the news saying, Ron DeSantis is actually worse than Donald Trump because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever reason they could come up with. But I don't think that it's Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:24:44 As much as people say it's Donald Trump, I really don't think that it's Donald Trump. Because the narrative of whoever's on the right is a Nazi, they were doing it to George Bush. They were doing it to George, especially because George Bush was looking to do an expansive war. He was looking to go into Iraq. And the left has been using the tactics of call your opponents nazis call them fascists they've been saying that they've been that has been a tactic on the left for so long and just now it's been they've been able to spread it in a way that they would never were before because of the internet yeah but trump's like the hatred of trump goes beyond
Starting point is 01:25:22 just the people who are calling Bush a Nazi back in 2004. Your aunt who never cared about politics suddenly has strong opinions on this one specific politician. And it's fractured a lot of relationships. I think that's a symptom of the of the Internet and the way that the left has has the way that the left has influenced the media and stuff. The left took—it used to be the right. The Christians and the right were the culturally dominant force in the United States. Once Christianity kind of started to fall out of favor with the normies, and you saw it with the numbers of people going to church and calling themselves devout Christians.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Once that happened, it was really replaced by this amorphous, just be good to everybody, just be a nice guy. Exactly. Be kind. Be kind person. The worst person you've ever met in your entire life has a be kind sticker on their car. Exactly. That's exactly right. My least favorite neighbors have those signs.
Starting point is 01:26:21 They do. They all do. They don't mow their lawns. They're the most stuck up ones no human is illegal yeah yeah but that but that's it that's the thing there's no there's no regulating factor there's no limiting factor with christianity you have a a set of rules and there are things you do and you do not do you have this with the with the left you have this amorphous be kind right and that became the dominant kind of perspective from people. And it was like, oh, live and let live and just, you know, just be kind and be nice.
Starting point is 01:26:49 And I forget where I was going with that. Do you think do you think the choice to elect an American pope is a form of outreach towards falling rates of Catholicism here in America? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe because nobody expected him to win. Yeah. Yeah. He was at expected him to win. Yeah. Yeah. He was at 1% on all the prediction marks. My goodness. That was bad for them. Can I just say, though, I'm a cradle Catholic.
Starting point is 01:27:13 These prognostication markets on the Pope are just all bullshit. I mean, absolute garbage. Yeah, they did not know. They have no clue. On the election, they did great. Yeah, on the election, it's fine. But you can talk to those people good luck getting a hold of these bishop are these these cardinals and getting who they're preferring for oh do you think pope leo is woke no i i think we should pause and
Starting point is 01:27:35 wait uh you know you look uh you can tell a lot about a pope based on the name he chooses that's what was concerning about Francis was he was the first Francis, but Leo, choosing the name Leo is fantastic. Leo the first was, or I'm sorry, Leo the great is actually how he's remembered. He was an amazing Pope and he's called Leo the great for a reason, but Leo the 13th is the one that is the Leo that came right before the 14th, this recent one. He is the guy that gave us the St. Michael prayer, which is a spiritual. It's the ultimate spiritual warfare prayer. The one that triggered all that outrage when Trump posted or something?
Starting point is 01:28:16 Yes, yes. But the cool thing is, so there's some history here. Pope Leo XIII had this vision of the devil getting a deal from God. He said, the devil said, basically, give me a century and I'll destroy the whole world and your church. And so God said, okay, I'll give you additional leeway because God keeps the devil in line. And Pope Leo XIII saw this and he said, all right, every mass you have to say the St. Michael prayer because this is a spiritual warfare battle. So you got that going. But even more importantly, Pope Leo XIII produced an encyclical, which is a papal document instructing the church on teaching. And it was called Rerum
Starting point is 01:28:57 Novarum. And it was the first document that really went after the errors of communism. It also went after a lot of the shortfalls and shortcomings of capitalism. So I think it's very promising. I don't think this guy is going to be woke. I have a lot of optimism. I think we should give him a chance. Let's wait and see. But he has a lot of base quotes about abortion and about protecting the unborn and protecting our elderly, and also against gender ideology. So let's just give him some time. I'm actually very optimistic about this guy.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Yeah. It'll be interesting to see what happens, I suppose. It's better than Francis II, I'll tell you that. Francis was kind of woke, wasn't he? Super woke. And he was vindictive. You know, I heard a story. South America and the whole liberation theology was why, right?
Starting point is 01:29:43 It was bad. It was bad. It was bad. And he was super confusing. He was not well thought. He wasn't well spoken. He was not academic in any way whatsoever. But Pope Leo XIV is an Augustinian, which means, so the Augustinian order was founded by St. Augustine. So all the way back, this is a very academic, intelligent pope.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I don't care that he's from America. Yeah, that doesn't matter. But I do care that he's from Chicago. He's a Sox fan. That's right. We had a Portillo's that I ordered $1,000 worth of hot dogs overnighted from Chicago so we could have a party. Did they arrive cooked?
Starting point is 01:30:22 Do you have to cook them here? You got to cook them. I mean, it's hot dogs. They're basically cooked. Well, Bartell's is great. It's funny watching someone try to eat a Chicago hot dog for the first time
Starting point is 01:30:31 because it's a monstrosity. So it is poppy seed bun, hot dog, two tomatoes, a whole pickle, a whole dill pickle, sport peppers, relish, raw onion raw onion mustard celery salt
Starting point is 01:30:48 and it is ridiculously difficult to eat and it's fantastic to eat everybody loves them I'm a bigger I'm a Maxwell guy which is you know a Maxwell Polish is grilled onions and mustard so if you get a hot dog Maxwell style it's grilled onions and mustard that's the way you do it
Starting point is 01:31:04 grilled onions caramelized mustard That's the way you do it. Grilled onions, caramelized mustard. I'm a fan of... Pro tip. Pro tip. We'll do... We order pizza and hot dogs. I think we'll do a party here where I'll order $30,000 worth of pizza and hot dogs. I'm so starving
Starting point is 01:31:20 right now. I am so hungry. That was a joke reference to WikiLeaks emails, by the way. Oh, really? Why that was that was a joke reference to wiki leaks emails by the way oh really why because there was a leaked email that obama uh oh yeah thousand dollars this is funny obama ordered pizza obama ordered thirty thousand dollars worth of pizza and hot dogs for a party in dc and idiots were like that must mean little boys and little girls. No. Obama was ordering Maxwell Street hot dogs and Giordano's. Maybe Lou Malnati's or Pizzeria Uno, but probably Giordano's.
Starting point is 01:31:53 And it's like $30,000. Yeah, he's overnighting it on a private jet to come in to cater a large party. That's what rich people do. That is what rich people do. And Chicago is famous for, you know and it's what rich people do and chicago is famous for you know it's really fascinating in chicago we have burger joints sort of we have hot dog joints so when i was growing up we didn't say let's go to let's go to the burger joint we'd go to the hot dog joint like when you mentioned maxill street is like the only the only times i'd ever
Starting point is 01:32:21 gone in in chicago was always to get burgers not to get they do have burgers but that's like a side thing is that a polish thing hot dogs yeah or like why would it be hot dogs and not no idea but uh when i was a kid we had a place called donald's and it was a hot dog place not a burger place and we wouldn't order burgers we'd order hot dogs we'd get hot dogs and fries. And they had burgers, but some people would order them sometimes. It's crazy. Everywhere else in the country everything's a burger joint. Chicago's a different universe.
Starting point is 01:32:53 You embarrass me because I'm a Quad Cities guy. I'm from the western part of Illinois. And I always thought I knew a lot about Chicago, but every time I come on with you I learn something. You educated me about real Chicago pizza. Cavern pizza. Right? And I had no clue. If you
Starting point is 01:33:09 hear my stomach rumbling, I apologize. That started even before we started talking about food. We still have, I think, 30 hot dogs left. All the buns, all the fixings. And we got Maxwell Street Polish. We didn't even make those yet. Did you see that Portillo's made the Leo? No. Portillo's made the Leo? No.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Portillo's, famous Chicago hot dog. They got a couple in California because I guess the owner vacations. But they don't want to expand outside of Chicago for the most part. They made an Italian beef with Giardiniera called the Leo. And we have a jar of Giardiniera downstairs. And Tate was in here. And I was like, check it out. He's like, what's that?
Starting point is 01:33:45 And I'm like, I was like, Tate has never seen this word before. And he goes, Giardiniera. And I'm like, yep. Close. Giardiniera. Wait, so is the Leo in honor of Pope Francis? Yes. I mean, Pope Leo. Pope Leo.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Pope Leo. I'm so used. I'm still stuck. That's pretty cool. Here we go. Those Italian beefs, by the way, from Portillo's are amazing. Oh, dude. I get them fully dipped.
Starting point is 01:34:06 There you go. There we go. Full dip. Oh, that's awesome. Full dip. That is awesome. Which is Italian beef? It looks like a hot beef.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Yeah. The Leo. Is there a hot dog in there? Well, so the combo is when you put the Italian sausage, then the beef. Oh, God, it sounds so goddamn good. Giardiniera is so good yeah it's good for those that don't know it is pickled cauliflower carrots jalapeno uh celery and uh and what else is one more thing i think i don't know it's that it's in a jar it's so good it's amazing
Starting point is 01:34:41 up on pizza my favorite pizza yeah. Oh, on pizza. Yeah. Giardiniera pizza. But you can only get it in Chicago. Because nobody knows what Giardiniera is anywhere else. New York has some Italian. My fiance just said, we have Portillo's in my hometown now. She's in Detroit. She's like, next time we're there, we'll go and get some. Wow. I remember driving by
Starting point is 01:34:59 there when we were back in town. We always wondered in Chicago why they didn't expand rapidly like any other fast food because the lines are always so long that half the time we'd pull up and say, not interested. Not even worth it. But Portillo's didn't care.
Starting point is 01:35:13 They were like, we have more business we can muster up. So they do what Chick-fil-A does and they send people out to walk the line and take orders. That way they can get your orders going. And they have two windows. It's crazy how big Portillo's is.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I mean, it's so good. The way they make the burgers is they have a conveyor belt grill and they put it on. I think, I don't know if Burger King does that, but it goes through the, it's flat Oh yeah, the flame broiling. Flame broiled. Super cool. All right, we're going to go to your chats, my friends. Smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Yeah, do that. Yeah, and we'll read your chats. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Yeah, do that. Yeah, and we'll read your chats. I was like, is there something else I got to say? I don't know. It's Friday. Dill Knight says, Katie Hobbs got denied. Only legal citizens can vote in AZ elections now if we can get rid of her. Interesting. That's the way it should be.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Indeed. Let's see. What have we here? YouTube's on the fritz. That was the way it should be. Indeed. Let's see. What have we here? YouTube's on the fritz. That was a rumble rant. All right. Papa Khan says, can we get thoughts and prayers
Starting point is 01:36:11 for the two corrections officers stabbed by an Arizona man? One officer was stabbed 12 times in the chest. The guy was here illegally and was already convicted of murder. Wow. So we have an Arizona man hoax now.
Starting point is 01:36:23 They keep doing that. I wouldn't be surprised if like one of these comic book companies makes a superhero called the maryland man talk to seamus he can do it all right evan for uss seems like uh i caused quite a storm inadvertently the other day jeremy even made a video and he seemed kind of upset especially at elad i'm sorry y'all. Excuse me, maybe I misspoke. He says, I was probably at least a little correct, but still I probably didn't say what I heard
Starting point is 01:36:50 and or saw correctly. Yeah, I guess Jeremy Hambly, the quartering, is mad that Elad insulted him. Well, Elad was like actually like, he seemed like he was mad. Like he was like PO'd about what Jeremy said. I mean, Jeremy was just a little bit like, he was doing a little poke poke a little exaggeration, but
Starting point is 01:37:09 Yeah, I spoke to a lot later. It seems like they both misunderstood each other, so I don't think it's that serious, but who knows? I don't know. I don't pay attention like to you. Alright. SemiFarming says, any thoughts on who is doing the DDoS attack on Rumble? No idea. Did the stream start fine for you
Starting point is 01:37:26 yeah yeah we had no problems we said to like uh we had to run it through like two or three times to get it to work but we were able to get it up on time for today's show rumble has been under attack all day yep let's see barry and mcgroan says tim it's simple people don't hang out with people that don't align with their beliefs for fun. People don't vote for people that don't align with their beliefs. Trump won. Yes. Dr. Doctor says James Lindsay is not only woke, but he's not even a classical liberal. He's actually a secular liberal.
Starting point is 01:37:58 You can't be an atheist and a classical liberal because natural law and rights are derived from God. He's a revisionist. This is, you know, James, James Lindsay's become so pathetic and desperate that he's destroyed what brand he had, because I think he's trying desperately to get back in with the left. So what he's done is he started attacking anyone on the right as woke right, which makes literally no sense because Dave Smith and Candace Owens don't align on anything. Or that's not fair, but they largely are completely different worldviews. The only thing overlapping is criticism of Israel. But Dave Smith's Jewish himself.
Starting point is 01:38:37 So it's like this weird thing that James Lindsay's done. There was a tweet, which I think why Dr. Doctor is super chatting. But it's let me see if I can pull it up. This is a good example of, for those that aren't familiar, James Lindsay was at one point a prominent liberal personality calling out woke stuff, but now he's literally just woke. And I'll explain why. So, Mike Cernovich had a tweet. He said, someone tweeted, no one would be upset if Kanye had released a song called Hail Satan,
Starting point is 01:39:08 and I can't stop thinking about that. And this is in response to Kanye West putting out, you know, the song that he did. And Lindsey criticized him saying he's sanitizing evil, which is like, what? He's criticizing the left for being evil. And another individual responded that Cernovich is correct. If Kanye or anybody else put out a song called like Black, I'm just going to read it.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Black Pussy Stank, the media and the mainstream would have no problem with it. They'd cheer it on. Doesn't have quite the same ring as WAP, but yeah. Well, but this is the point. James Lindsay is arguing then, and this is where I'm saying, like, this dude has fallen off and become desperate and is literally doing what woke people do. He says, wrong. How have you forgotten this Sam Smith BS from two years ago when Sam Smith dressed up like Satan and did body shop with the trans person? And it's just, yes, he was celebrated on the Grammys. They cheered for him.
Starting point is 01:40:07 It was accepted. The Grammys also had WAP. They celebrated this. Kanye West is blacklisted because he did a Nazi song. This is the point Cernovich is making. You're allowed to hail Satan, but not Hitler. We understand Hitler is bad. Satan is also bad.
Starting point is 01:40:22 So my point is, I saw that, and it's another grain of sand in the heap. And and I think also Seth Dillon from the Babylon Bee and many others are are trying to push this narrative of a woke right, which literally does not make sense. They may as well say alt right. They're saying anyone who is outside of our overton window is woke right that's why they've lumped aaron mcintyre with candace owens and nick fuentes and dave smith they couldn't be more different and i'm like what these people are all different right well i think look i know james he's a friend of mine i really like him but i hate what he's doing here and i you know there was a uh i forget which outlet had it, but the left is already
Starting point is 01:41:05 using this woke right in their headlines to attack us. And in just a few short years, when anyone hears the word woke in the media, it's going to be used against the right. It's never going to be used against the left. This is what James Lindsay is trying to do. That's why he started this. And I believe it's because at some point he decided Trump is going to lose and he doesn't want to be on the wrong side of history. This is what woke generally is. The core component, I describe woke as cult like adherence to liberal social orthodoxy. And the reason I do is it makes no sense to be anti-war, anti-military industrial complex and pro-Ukraine war. It makes no, their positions are incoherent. Two plus two equaling five, they all know that makes no sense,
Starting point is 01:41:51 but they will rationalize in any means possible to adhere to their cult. James Lindsay attacking the right of various different political right-wing factions, not even right wing necessarily, like libertarian, makes no sense, except for he's trying to be on the outs with the Trump MAGA coalition so that he can eventually find his way back into doing podcasts with leftists and liberals because he's scared Trump will lose and he wants to have a career in the future. Well, look, I would say that I've read a lot of these forums on woke right, and I think at the heart of it, these are people that believe that all of our laws should not make – I'm sorry. They believe that none of our laws should make values judgments, that they should all be neutral. So the disagreement is I think that our laws should distinguish between good and evil.
Starting point is 01:42:41 That is the point of it. You should not treat evil equally with good because evil will crowd out all the good and there won't be any more good. There's no definition of woke right? None. Right. James Lindsay basically made incoherent statements that he claimed were coherent and he's got followers who think he's telling the truth and he's not. Let me stress again, like Oren McIntyre, I guess, what would you describe him as? Like a civic nationalist? Yeah. Smart dude, too. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:09 I don't understand how he overlaps with Nick Fuentes. And when James Lindsay was asked, who's an example of, well, great, he said Oren McIntyre. And I said, yeah, that guy has, like, got nothing in common with Nick Fuentes. Nothing. So what was the attack then? Go back seven years. What the liberal institutions were doing, the universities, was labeling everybody outside of their Overton window, including libertarians, alt-right. Then after they created the phrase alt-right, they morphed it into white nationalist.
Starting point is 01:43:45 The strategy was – and there was a dude I knew, not a political leader, he was a comedian. And when they started the alt-right smears, labeling anybody alt-right, this dude saw some libertarian guy, probably Dave Smith. And he thought, well, I agree with libertarians, so I must be alt-right too. And then I remember one day he said, I was talking to him and he's a comedian. And then I was like, well, where do you fall on the political spectrum? He said he was alt-right. And I was like, for real? And I was like, white nationalist? And he was like, no, no, no. Just like, you know, like, well, where do you fall on the political spectrum? He said he was alt-right. And I was like, for real? And I was like, white nationalist? And he was like, no, no, no. Just like, you know, like libertarian, Ron Paul. And I said, well, that was the thing.
Starting point is 01:44:12 You see what the media did. Now James Lindsay is doing that because he's a scumbag. He is trying to create a term to attach it to various different groups of people. Once they do, they're then, and the press is going to take it like you said, they're gonna start using woke right, redefining it so that anybody who's ever been labeled that will fall under a different umbrella, likely going to be anti-Semite, white nationalist. This is the same playbook they used before. Why is James Lindsay doing it? He claims he sacrificed his tribe. What actually happened is he became irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:44:44 And when you're ousted from the liberal factions of universities and can't get a job because you've you've you've called them out for their lies. The only work you're going to find is on the other side. The problem is his body of work is no longer relevant. He did the Sokol Square hoaxed hoax. He's no longer relevant to the space. So he can't get an in with the right. He gets mocked over the golden Trump statue, whatever happened with that. So he's got nothing. So he goes, I need to get back in with the universe. It's the only career path I have for making money and surviving. Also, he has like a stepdaughter who was attacking him over this stuff. It seems like there were family issues, career issues. And so he goes,
Starting point is 01:45:28 I'll just attack everybody on the right as woke right, putting me at odds with Trump and his base. I will then publicly declare that I've sacrificed my tribe. Watch in a few in a six months to a year, he'll be on a bunch of liberal podcasts. He'll be on Midas Touch and he'll be talking about how the right has gone woke and adopted things that are bad. And, you know, he should have seen it coming. There you go. Let's read more.
Starting point is 01:45:48 All right. We've got James. He says, as a Georgian, there are a lot of folks here still sore over how Biden's fems, Biden's FEMA, sorry, helped after Helene. We should swing red,
Starting point is 01:46:01 especially as Fannie is in legal trouble too. We'd hope so. Perhaps. Let's see. What have we here? Mad Max says GOP wins 2026 midterms if the economy is doing well. Economy should be the total focus for the GOP. That I agree with.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Agreed. Agreed. All right. Liberate USA says, hey, guys guys the reason we have a population crisis in this country is because we allow unfettered abortion if we didn't kill babies we'd have many more people you know correct biz says tim have kanye back on to discuss his new song uh it would just like the problems would get banned right away i'd love to talk to you about it i'll say this the song is sad did you hear it i haven't heard yet okay so the song is it's got a silly
Starting point is 01:46:51 name which i'm not gonna say and it's got a chorus which you can't say on youtube but the the verse the lyrics is sad the lyrics are they took my children from me even with all my fame and money i can't see my children. They don't understand what I'm trying to say. They don't understand how I'm feeling. They just, you know, like he says it over again. Even with all my fame and money, I can't see my kids. I can't see my children.
Starting point is 01:47:17 They froze my bank accounts and took everything from me. And he says, so I became a Nazi. Now I'm the villain. And the sad thing is, if Ye had, this is the problem with being as successful as he is. He couldn't get a real bit of advice, or he was too arrogant to take it. So everyone around him is cheering him on as he's just destroying himself. You want to see your kids, Ye?
Starting point is 01:47:36 Well, you've burned that bridge, because now they're going to use everything you've done against you to make sure you never see your kids, or make it as hard as possible for you to. But when all this first started, he could have done one thing. Gone on X, said, hey, y'all, yay here.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Hey, I'm going to be put on a free show outside the courthouse. They're telling me I can't see my kids. I need your help. Meet me there. 50,000 people chanting, give him back his kids. Give him back his kids. Look, he's a complicated guy, obviously. you you could always tell he really loved his kids i mean that that whole uh interview he did where he's walking through the house and talking about how normal things are they watch dateline together he really
Starting point is 01:48:17 loved his family and loved his kids and he you know guys go through stuff uh it really sucks i mean i can't imagine losing my kids, and it would be terrible. You know what I think happened? The people who were running his labels and were doing these deals were Jewish. So he gets into this conflict over family, mental health issues, and there's weird, creepy stuff. I get all that. He then says, how come it's all these Jewish guys that are doing this to me
Starting point is 01:48:47 and thinks it's quote unquote the Jews? People then whisper in his ear. He gets bad advice and he then starts, like I think the reason he did this song is in his mind, he's like, I'm going to get revenge on you
Starting point is 01:49:01 by attacking you in a way that makes you angry and frustrated. So I think he did this song and he's saying these things because he wants to attack the Jews because he blames them for why he lost his family and his contracts and all of this stuff. When in fact, it was guys who happened to be Jewish, not the Jews as in all of them. But he doesn't want to hear that. Anytime anybody says that to him, he gets angry and storms off or complains about it. about it he's like no i want to be mad at every single one of them and it's like we get what you're saying bro we do even john stewart came out and said there's a lot of jews in hollywood
Starting point is 01:49:33 but the way you're going about it sounds like you're saying something else yeah c'est la vie man he could have got his kids back i guess or he could have got something he had a lot of power with fame and money alright Asso says Tim the Fight Club Politic Culture War upload was the best political video I've ever seen also you really solidified for me that you're my favorite pundit no glaze keep up the good work
Starting point is 01:49:56 share the culture war if you liked it that was just the pilot man I don't even care if I'm good or bad or whatever being on stage with an audience and having a debate with a crowd is fun thousand times better than anything in the political space it's fun it it's it's like working with the crowd and having them we gave everybody um little like i don't know what you call little signs on once it's a d20 and once i was a one that's i was a 20 and that's our meme because you know for if you know dnd uh dungeons and dragons a little bit
Starting point is 01:50:31 when you roll a one it's a critical failure when you roll a 20 it's a critical success okay ian on the show one day said i feel like i'm either gonna roll a one or 20 whenever i speak and everyone started laughing like that accurately describes ian yeah half the time he's saying the stupidest thing you've ever heard. And then the other half he's saying something that you didn't consider and you're like I didn't think about that. And so we made I love he's so smart.
Starting point is 01:50:53 He's so smart. Thank you for reading me in on that reference. That's good. But so everybody was holding up when someone would say something that hold up a 20 or a one. Yeah. And so we're hoping to do more of these and get a bigger venue. And I think, I think. How do people, like, how do you hear about it?
Starting point is 01:51:08 How do you sign up to go? Timcast.com members. Okay. So everybody there was a member. Okay. Except for, so we don't want it to be all ideologically similar. So we told Pisco, the liberal lawyer, invite some of your friends, some liberals. And so we had liberals on stage.
Starting point is 01:51:24 We, and then we brought people up from the crowd to join us on stage and get in the debate for like five, 10 minutes. That's pretty cool. It was, it was very fun. That's awesome. Yeah. So that's we, for like a half an hour, we debated, then we bring people up to join the debate with us. And, um, I'm, I'm hoping that we can do like a hundred seats, public tickets in the future, or it would like my right now we're bouncing ideas around 80 seats for sale open to the public. 20 seats members only, first come, first serve. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:51:52 And then if you want to join the debate, you have to be a member. But we want the seats for the public because we want anybody to show up, like people who aren't just members to show up. The reason is we want there to be like if the audience is just our members, they're booing the
Starting point is 01:52:10 liberal the whole time. And we want some back and forth. We're trying to figure out how to do it. You're onto something. I mean Americans want these types of debates. They want real debates and discussions like this. This could actually blow up to something much bigger than just 100 people. Maybe that's not what you want. Well no no, I, I think we could probably sell
Starting point is 01:52:27 it a thousand seats. Uh, the issue was when, so that was the first conversation I had with Sean. I was like, should we do a thousand seat venue? Because if we, you know, if we announced that we sell tickets, we're going to pack the house. In fact, for the purpose of the show, we don't even need to sell the tickets. We could do $5 at the door and we're going to sell this show out especially in the dc metro uh and then you know sean said we should do a pilot and figure out how to do it before we try and sell it a big venue because otherwise it'll be chaos and he was right i think we're going to do a handful of smaller shows and then maybe go for like 200 seats yeah but i i think we them – I want to do them every week. Like a regular weekly thing where people are like, if I'm in town, I'll come.
Starting point is 01:53:09 The DC Metro has more than enough people to come and join us. Yeah. And then if you get touring comedians and other personalities who are coming in town that time, I think this could very well be like a thing people are like, oh, when I go to DC, I want to make sure I check out Culture War. I think it'll be fun. Yeah, yes. Something like that. I love it. I think it'll be fun. Yeah, yes. Something like that. I love it. I think it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:53:27 So here's hoping. Yeah, so I think we're planning the next one for one month from now. Very cool. Probably going to be the same venue, new personalities, new subjects, and then, you know. But we've got to have Alex Stein. I told Alex, like, we need Alex at every single one. He's so good, dude. He's the funniest human being of all time.
Starting point is 01:53:46 The main issue is, if we invite someone to debate and they're really bad, getting kicked off by me would suck. I'm not that funny of a guy. It's just, what would I say? Hey, bro, you suck. Get off the stage. Alex Stein kicking off is memorable. Yes. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Right. And then you're having a good time and you're part of it. He's outrageous. That's the best word best one for him he's outrageous i feel like if i were to tell someone to get off the stage they'd have a negative experience but if alex did it it's something they'd want filmed and to share with their friends yeah it would go viral just being like yo look when alex was yelling at me and i'm like we need someone who's having a good time and crazy like that you know so i'm super excited i'm super excited alaskan ballistic says if you get a check from the federal government you shouldn't be able to vote what about your tax refund that's your money that's still that's still a point though because um business owners don't get refunds yeah they pay quarterly so you're never getting a
Starting point is 01:54:42 refund you're paying you're paying what you're told to pay or your estimates. That's not true. You can get a refund. Because what happens is based on your last year's taxes, you got to pay an estimate. And then if you don't and you end up owing more taxes, you get a penalty. But if you end up owing less, if you pay your estimates but then don't make as much money, they'll give you a refund. Yeah. I love paying
Starting point is 01:55:05 too much taxes i'm sure because at the end of the year they're like you actually paid too much so you only owe a thousand dollars i'm like oh my god because our tax bills are i'm sure you ever see a six-figure tax bill no please go anyway jacob jones says personally i prefer winter soldier high stakes espionage spy heist thriller i love that he was willing to self-sacrifice to save his best friend yeah and i one of the best scenes ever is when um captain america gets on the intercom and then he says shield has been taken over by hydra he gives his little speech and then he says, S.H.I.E.L.D. has been taken over by HYDRA. He gives his little speech, and then he's like, you know, fight with me.
Starting point is 01:55:49 If I'm the only one willing to do it, then so be it. But then when Crossbones walks up to the guy, and he's like, launch the ship now, and he's like, I can't do that. And then he points the gun at him, and he's like, Captain's orders. I love that scene.
Starting point is 01:56:03 To me, it's when fury and him are going down in the elevator and fury's telling the story of his grandfather walking home every night yeah and the speech when they talk about the differences as they're launching the the ships and he's talking about the cost of controlling a populace through fear as opposed to actual freedom i thought that was the what was what was the story he was like my granddad bought a gun or something? Yeah, he's like he carried the gun in his lunchbox and they'd tell him get to stepping. He's like granddad loved people,
Starting point is 01:56:36 but he didn't trust him much. All right. Brad Peter says the vigilantism is starting already. Pozo had the story. Indiana man was offed by cops in an attempt to off man who offed his great grandkids. There's an off rant. That was Sean was talking about that last night, too. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:56:56 He was killed? There was a man that was killed, a young man that was killed by a police officer, and then the man's father went and killed another police officer who was not in the same... No, no, no, I know that, but that's not what they said. What did he say? I'm sorry. An Indian man was offed by cops in an attempt to
Starting point is 01:57:17 off a man who offed his great-grandkid. Oh. That's a different story. Yeah, that is a different story, my bad. Yeah. Which story was that? I don't know. I was so had it. So there's just going to be one for every state.
Starting point is 01:57:32 There's going to be an Indiana man. Yeah, this just happened. Wyoming man. Just today. Yeah. Hmm. Was it?
Starting point is 01:57:40 Wait, what? Chicago police fatally shoot man who was allegedly, who allegedly fled to Indiana, fired shots at officers. Is that the story? Let me read it real quick. A kind of billion-dollar shooting.
Starting point is 01:57:50 A police person being saw in connection with an aggravated battery. The man crashed a vehicle in Dearborn. No, this is a different story. You search for Indiana shooting and cops, and you get 500 stories all at once. Sorry. Gary. But I'll take a look at what posts are in there.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Thank you very much. All right. Blake says, bali war is heating up oh god the bali war r terry says watch thunderbolts today it was actually good no woke trash so they added the new avengers thing at the last minute that was filmed like four weeks before the movie came out. Wow. You know what's funny is during the Super Bowl, they weren't advertising Captain America. They were advertising Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Yeah. And we were here and someone, I can't remember who it was, they were like, why aren't they advertising Captain America? It's coming out in a few weeks. It was already a financial loss. They knew they weren't going to get their money back on it. They're still filming stuff for Fantastic Four right now. Yep.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Yep. That's not good. It. They're still filming stuff for Fantastic Four right now. Yep. Yep. That's not good. It's because, let me just say this. When they started making these superhero movies, they were one-offs. And they only slightly connected them. So when Avengers happened, it was like, oh man, all of these individual movies are coming together in one story. That's going to be fun.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Then they were like, okay, that worked. Let's do it every single time forever now. Yeah, it's awful. It was better when they were just tangentially connected through one through line that you could remember. But now they make sure that all of the Easter eggs connect to other properties and it ends up turning into homework for everybody.
Starting point is 01:59:19 Nobody wants their entertainment to be freaking homework. Yep. Doctor Strange is one of my favorite movies. It was awesome. But then they did Multiverse of Madness, and it was just the Avengers again. I liked that one fine. Too long.
Starting point is 01:59:30 They sidelined all the original characters and did an entirely different story that was predicated upon a TV show that people didn't watch. Well, that's, yeah, because it was like, when I was watching, I'm like, why is Scarlet Witch evil?
Starting point is 01:59:42 Oh. Oh, I forgot. I tried watching Daredevil, and I was like, what are they talking about? Frisk went to prison? Yeah, because you weren't watching Echo. Of course I didn't watch Echo! Or any of the other stuff that he's been in. They should have just left it at seasons one through three anyways.
Starting point is 01:59:58 The problem is, they used to make a movie where it's like, this is Captain America. Here's his adventure. Bye. Now they're like, this is Captain America with his friend Captain Bob and Captain Jane and Captain Smith. So that we can spin off into Captain Bob. And you guys remember when Captain America fought the Spike guy? No. Well, Spike guy's actually evil now.
Starting point is 02:00:18 I don't know who Spike guy is. But what they did was it was based on the crossovers that they used to do in the comics, like Secret Wars and stuff like that. So, like, for me, like, I thought that it was cool when they did it with the Avengers. It did get too big when they were like, oh, you got to watch our television show and you got to watch this episode. Yeah, that's the issue. Infinity War was based on a comic run, although vastly changed, still was all done before they started implementing all the Disney Plus shows that turned it into homework.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Infinity War was the end. When Captain Marvel came in, the theater I was in, everyone groaned. There were two moments everyone groaned. It was when... Girl boss team up. Yup. She's not alone and all the women walk up. The whole... Oh! Imagine everybody rolled their eyes when they were filming it.
Starting point is 02:01:01 And then I was in... I was watching it in Maryland somewhere. And then when Captain America gets headbutted by Thanos and she doesn't flinch, the whole audience groaned. Like, oh my God. It's because everybody remembers the scene when Captain America has Thanos by the gauntlet. And it's taking every bit of his strength to keep him from finishing him off. And that scene closed the the trailer and that's great storytelling it's great and there's
Starting point is 02:01:28 there's no the issue largely is like there's a scale of power and you're they so at the start of Infinity War the reason why Hulk loses to Thanos was to show the audience how strong Thanos was
Starting point is 02:01:43 so then when they had Captain Marvel be invincible, it was just like, it also kind of heightens Thor's story as he's, you know, from infinity war cringe and game was, was, was a disappointment. But anyway,
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