Timcast IRL - DHS Vows To HUNT DOWN Leftist Terrorists Amid SWATTINGS & Tesla TERROR w/Peter St Onge
Episode Date: March 20, 2025Tim, Phil, & Ian are joined by Peter St Onge to discuss the DHS vowing to hunt down leftist terrorists, Trump's AG saying that Tesla vandalism is terrorism, Stephen Colbert making jokes about the atta...cks against Tesla, and Elon Musk donating to GOP members voicing support for impeaching activist judges. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Peter St Onge @profstonge (X, YouTube) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Thank you. The DHS will hunt down the swatters targeting conservative figures over this last night.
Several more individuals were targeted, notably Owen Schroyer of Infowars,
and he published a video. And it's actually rather terrifying when you see it.
Well, firstly, because these men have guns pointed at his house and he walked out carrying his phone
and they were like, drop it. And he's like, I'm going to record this. They make him take his shirt
off, walk backwards, get on the grounds, put his hands on his head. And this is what the leftists
are trying to do. Now, it's not just the swatting. It is also the attacks on Tesla, the domestic terror. Pam Bondi says this is domestic terror, issuing a statement from the DOJ.
Hopefully we get some accountability before things escalate too much.
But we do have many more stories, not just of the swattings, but of people vandalizing Tesla vehicles.
In one video, a guy swings a luggage bag at the vehicle, causing thousands of dollars worth of damage of damage and there's another video a guy sticks his hands on the back of his pants and uh
yeah you can figure out where that's going yikes now elon musk is funding gop politicians who may
impeach these judges impeding donald trump because it's not just right now guys please don't freak
out but it's not just the turning around the the please don't freak out, but it's not just the turning
around the the trend, the Aragua criminal aliens that Trump has the full authority to do.
It's not just that they tried to stop him. They send him out anyway. It's not just that a judge
ruled that there is no prohibition on any DSM five mental disorder in the military, I kid you not in in putting an injunction on Trump's
banning of transgender military personnel from serving. The judge went so far as to say all
means all and anyone should be allowed to enlist. This means that if you are suffering from paranoid
delusions and schizophrenia and you can't tell up from down, you must be affirmed in your belief
and allowed to enlist in the military. This is the craziest thing I've heard. And then, as I said, don't freak
out. A judge has ordered male inmates into a female prison. And I know that one's going to
light people up quite a bit and get them pretty angry. So Elon Musk says, let's impeach these
judges. But you're going to need two thirds of the Senate. Not likely to happen. Some activists
are saying just use a simple majority and defund their districts and take away any federal grants they got and see how quick this
stops. There's a lot more to talk about. Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Bannon says that Trump is
going to run for a third term, which I think is just silly. But sure, we'll talk about it.
And Greenpeace has been ordered to pay six hundred and sixty million dollars over the Dakota Access
Pipeline protests. Crazy stuff. Before we get started,
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accountability. But again, share the show. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is
Peter St. Ange. Thanks for having me on, Tim. Who are you? What do you do? So I'm a former professor. I was teaching at an MBA program out in Taiwan.
Felt like I was kind of not really in the fight way over there. I wasn't manning the wall.
Came back, worked at a think tank up in Montreal. COVID-19 hit. Everybody got wiped out.
Came to the U.S., where I'm from. Joined the Heritage Foundation.
And about two years ago, I started doing daily videos on freedom of economics.
Those took off.
I was kind of surprised.
They're very short, three and a half minutes, so not too painful, and that kind of blew up.
Everybody shares your videos on X.
A lot of people share them, and honestly, it was Elon.
As soon as Elon bought Twitter, I immediately sat down. Before then, I figured,
okay, why start anything? It's just going to get censored. Why bother? You spend whatever,
months and months building something up, and then it gets nuked. As soon as he bought Twitter,
I started making plans and then got it up four months after. So huge impact from Elon.
Right on. Well, I'm looking forward to the conversation. We were talking a bit about economics, taxes, gold, and what the apocalypse will look like. And considering all
this news about far left violence, we're going to need to consider, is it going to be bottle caps,
maybe lipstick? But we'll get into that. Thanks for hanging out. Ian's here. Yeah, I'm pumped,
man. You said you were part, you identify with the libertarian models of thought, but you don't get
into that libertarian party.
Right.
Anyway, we'll go deeper into it on the show.
I'm just happy to be back, you guys.
Tonight, for the first time, I'm on the Rumble app.
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I'm Ian Crossland.
Glad to be back, Phil.
What's going on, baby?
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
I did want to point out that our guest tonight is an Austrian economist, and he is not friendly to the Libertarian Party, and that is something after my own heart.
I like a lot of libertarian ideas.
The Libertarian Party is the most annoying thing in the world.
Let's get into it.
Yeah, right.
Like, real quick, anarcho-capitalist. Yes, absolutely. So not one
of these graph go up lulbertarians. Right. And I hope we can get into that during the show.
But yeah, definitely. Yeah, the reason for that. Yep. All right. Well, let's start with this.
We have this. We have two stories that kind of go hand in hand. The first is the DHS. We have
the DHS and the DOJ targeting the far left extremists, the terror. But we're going to start with the swatting because we've got an update. Owen Schroyer,
the video put out, is insane. DHS will hunt down swatters targeting conservative figures.
Secretary Christine Noem says under President Trump's leadership, we will not sit idly by
as conservative new media and their families are being targeted by false swatting.
DHS Gov has the ability to trace phone numbers and track location information. We will use it to hunt these cowards down. This is an attack on our
law enforcement and innocent families, and we will prosecute it as such. Take a look at this.
Owen Schroer tweeting just got swatted. This is just one of the videos he has where police came
to his door, weapons trained and brought him out, made him take off his shirt, put his
hands up, walk backwards.
This is manipulating law enforcement to force them to engage in or to cause terror of these
individuals.
There was a there were a couple other individuals that I saw.
Some of these individuals getting swatted are not particularly prominent.
No disrespect, but it's local news picking it up.
The stories we see tend to be these big
national figures but then in the media there are smaller conservative personalities being targeted
as well possible that it's foreign agents using like throughputs to get to a local number and
man i told chase geyser who had experienced this a week ago or so he was swatted and i we talked
and i was like uh contact your local police department.
Let them know who you are, that you're a streamer. And if you are a streamer, you should do the same.
Get to know your local cops, because if they know who you are and they know you're prominent, if they get that call,
they're going to know ahead of time that they don't necessarily need to kick the door down.
There's probably some malfeasance going on. That's a that's a really good point.
It's worth noting whether you're whether you're in the political realm or even if you're just a regular streamer, it's a good idea to let your local law enforcement know to the degree that you can.
I mean, if you're in a big city, it's harder to get in touch with police and make them aware.
But if you're in a smaller town, you can definitely reach out to your local law enforcement and say, look, I'm a low-level public figure, right? Just, you know, don't try and pump yourself up, but just be like, look, if someone ever calls in these kind of calls, you know, let me know first.
Call me.
You can tell I'll be there.
This kind of stuff happens from time to time.
So it's a really good point, Ian.
Thanks.
And additionally, if this kind of thing, I don't take sides on this, man.
If this kind of thing was happening to you.
I do.
I'm on the side of the people that are not doing the swatting.
Exactly.
The righteous path.
And if people were swatting, and I'll pick on you, Sam Seder, who I love you, Sammy.
But if you, for instance, who's considered on the left, I would be up in arms if people were swatting people like Sam.
It's not cool, man.
So we got to get this resolved.
And I'm glad that they're doing it.
Sure.
So I'll say this.
If you look to any prominent liberal, they're going to decry this and say, of course, we oppose this. And then they're going to advocate for violence. They're going to celebrate celebrate Luigi Mangione. They're going to turn on Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert, who essentially encouraged people to commit acts of terrorism. And I'll clarify this with full context. Jimmy Kimmel made a joke
where he goes, don't vandalize Tesla vehicles. Anyway, and then everyone busts out laughing
because the implication was do it. And Stephen Colbert said he appreciates the tireless effort
of the individual who vandalized a bunch of vehicles, stealing their tires and said the
reason he doesn't condone the violence that that that that condemnation
comes the deepest pit of his CBS legal team. The insinuation, of course, everyone laughed over the
acts of terror. I mean, they are shooting up buildings with guns. The insinuation is it's
funny that people are doing it and they don't have no remorse. And so just real quick for these
prominent liberals who would dare come out and be like, we don't want any of this.
Yeah, tell Bill Burr to shut up because these prominent individuals on your side keep calling for more.
Look, the left, I've been in a bit of a back and forth with some people on X about this, whether or not this is terrorism.
There are people that are saying this isn't terrorism. The intent is clearly to frighten people and to harm Tesla, harm people that would buy Teslas, scare people away from supporting Teslas or buying their stock or whatever.
The intent is to use violence to frighten people for a political end.
It is a purely political thing.
And there is no question that that is the textbook
definition of terrorism. Yeah. So the definition of terrorism is violence or intimidation for
political ends. Thank you. The trick here is that for 50 years, it has not been prosecuted on the
left. And so the left just can't get it through their heads. They burned down entire cities.
They just did it a couple of years ago. Nobody gets arrested. If they do, it's a slap on the wrist. So they can't The judges keep saying Trump can't do this. Trump can't do that.
In the instance of the deportation, it is completely within Trump's authority to deport
criminal aliens.
Obama did it to a tremendous degree.
And they said, where are the trials for these individuals?
Ask Obama, I guess.
The point is this.
It's not about whataboutism.
It is they know Democrats have done this. They did not care. They are only pretending now that Trump
does it. They are claiming that Trump is pushing us towards a constitutional crisis when Trump
uses executive authority as he's allowed. And then their judges that violate jurisdiction,
that extend beyond their jurisdiction, make orders of of trump which he can't abide by and then say he's causing the crisis this is the game they will engage in
terror and then they will joke about and claim it's not happening or act like they don't like
it while encouraging it this you're gonna say something here uh okay about this this uh trump
deportation the judge trying to put a stay on it just this is a bit of a tangent from this story
but i want to flesh this out.
So Trump said Trend de Aragua is a terrorist organization.
And then he said, now, by my legal authority,
because they're a terrorist organization that has been invading
at the whim of a government, at the will of a government,
because he has the paperwork, apparently,
I can just get them out of here with this 1789 Act
and the illegal whatever it was called.
Why mention that? Because he was the one that said, so if he said this... No, no, why mention 1789 act and uh the illegal whatever it was called why mention that because he was the
one that said so if he said this why mention 1789 when the act was written so he's taking an old law
it doesn't matter i'm just explaining this is the law he used he used a law right just don't bring
up when it was codified it's a it's a material okay it's an a it's an it's it's a tried and
it's been in our government for hundreds of years for a reason because it's an important thing for
the president to be able to do in a wartime situation or if there's an invasion.
So if Trump says the Proud Boys are a terrorist organization, I'm declaring it.
Now I'm going to deport all of them.
You can't. They're citizens.
Hold on. OK, but what if it was another foreign group that wasn't really terroristic and the president said they were and then started deporting them?
You'd think there'd be a lawsuit about the declaration of Trend de Aragua as a terrorist organization. You'd have to take it back to the declaration itself.
That makes sense. Right. So the one thing, the reason I bring up the year is that the corporate
press has been using this 18th century law as a means of discrediting it. When the great point
was made the other day by our super chats, or actually this was yesterday morning on the morning
show, murder is codified in law well before the existence of the United States. Are we going to go using a 13th century
law or a third century law? Trump thinks that he's going to be able to bar. So you have people who we
know are not citizens. We know are criminals. The only concern I have is that Trump be transparent
and the administration show a list of the individuals that are deported.
That's the due process they deserve.
Are you a citizen, yes or no?
Here you go, everybody.
Here's the bio of the individual, their name, where they come from.
They are criminals.
They are not citizens.
We deport them.
And we have a long history of going to war with organizations that are not governments, right?
We just got off the global war of terror.
That was going on for 20 years.
That was often, I don't know what the legal mechanism is, but we were effectively fighting organizations.
The very first war in our nation's history was against pirates in the Middle East.
So this was the shores of Tripoli.
That's the song, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that was the origins of the Marines.
We had an invasion by Pancho Villa around 1910.
So that was an organization that Mexico could not control.
He was allegedly not under the control of the Mexican government, but it was treated like a war.
So we have a long precedent.
This is not something new.
You can go to war against organizations that are not formally governments, just like you can go to war against government. Now, Ian, we can have a conversation if Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi arrest a bunch of Antifa
because they're domestic terrorists and Trump tries to deport them to El Salvador.
Then we're going to have a conversation.
Because they're citizens.
Because they're citizens and they should be in an American prison with American due
process, American citizens, and all the Constitution affords them, even if they're
disgusting criminals who are committing acts of terror.
I don't believe that is a reality.
Like the idea that they're going to catch one of these morbidly obese guys, you know, in all black at a Tesla dealership and then be like,
to El Salvador with thee, I really don't see happening.
But I will absolutely call out the administration.
Should they do that, you have my word.
Yeah, or the next administration, if they're like, like all right who's because of the patriot act the president has such authority now since the
patriot act to be like this group's bad this group's a terrorist organization i don't know
who who can challenge the president from declaring that is there someone i don't know enough about
i'm pretty sure literally anyone in the united states could file a lawsuit challenging that
declaration presumably if you're gonna have standing it's going to be some association
with the group so if trump came out and said the Proud Boys are terrorists, they could file a suit and say it's an improper designation.
In fact, I'm not actually sure there is an official domestic terror designation for any American groups because of the First Amendment.
Labeling foreign groups terrorist organizations is because they're specifically not American.
So they do not as foreign entities.
They are not subject to the rights of the
Constitution. When they entered this country, they're now invaders, and they're not subject
to the rights in the same way. If you are an illegal immigrant who entered for, like, you came
in for economic reasons, you're going to get granted a decent amount of constitutional rights.
I know a lot of people on the right don't like that, but that's true. And the protection is for
you, not the illegal immigrant. To prevent the government from arresting, searching and seizing American citizens, it's going to apply to any human body.
However, if you are a known Trendy Aragua member and they're investigating you, they're going to
arrest you, put you on a plane and send you out. And they're going to say we did.
And in fact, there was a ruling in 1948, this has gone viral, that already set the court precedent
that deportations under the Alien Enemies Act do not require judicial review.
Correct.
Saying that judges have neither, what did it say, neither the jurisdiction nor the competence or something to that effect.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Could you imagine, I mean, I don't want to go too far into this because we are going to talk about it later.
A scenario where, with all these people, I said, imagine this. Donald Trump tells Israel, we are going to cut military funding and aid and pull our personnel unless you stop bombing Gaza.
And Israel says, no, we're going to keep doing it.
So Trump says, fine.
I order all U.S. military assets onto planes to fly back to the United States.
We are cutting Israel off.
And then a single district court judge bangs the gavel and says, no, do not do that. Send all the military equipment
and funding back to Israel. These people would be apoplectic. These Israel critical individuals.
It's like on the left times of war, times of invasion. And these words are like, obviously,
we're not we haven't been at war since World War Two. We haven't officially been at war. So that's
off the books. Invasion. And now, like, do you consider it an invasion?
And some judges like, no. Some are like, yes, that's always that's always how it's been.
It's the judiciary interprets. And so you get these judges like it was an invasion.
Therefore, these people cannot be deported. And that's the point of the Supreme Court.
So the issue is the president has the authority as it pertains to to law enforcement.
And the law says he can do this.
It's insanity that there that anyone would be arguing that a single district court, a lower
court could order the president stop international negotiations. That's what happened. Trump
negotiated with El Salvador to hold known criminals, and they agreed. A plane was was
transporting the criminals to El Salvador,
and a judge said, turn it around. That's laughably psychotic. You cannot tell the president to
cancel his negotiations with world leaders. Because again, I'll give you another scenario.
Trump is talking to Putin and says, we want to end the war in Ukraine. And Putin says,
I know you have special forces and weapons coming into Ukraine. And then Trump says,
OK, we will pull our special forces and the funding and the war is over.
And Putin shakes his hand and then pops up CBS News.
And they say a lower court judge banged the gavel and said, no, we're going to keep funding the Ukrainians.
Putin would be like, why am I wasting my time talking to a man who can't make a deal?
Yeah. So it's insane to think that Trump can't set this policy.
This does speak to the broader fact that there's, you know, many judges that are, I don't know
if there's actually a concerted effort or if it's just because of their ideological
bent, but they're trying to stymie the elected president, you know, trying to prevent him
from doing things that he
was elected to do and this is a problem obviously because the president is elected by the people to
perform duties that the people want so if he gets elected and these judges are going to just say
well we have a different ideology than the majority of the people that voted for the president
and so we're going to interpose ourselves between the president or between.
I think that's fine. I'm totally fine with it. 100%. I'm not. I'm just fine. Obama appoints a
judge. Trump gets elected. The judge says, I don't like what you're doing, Trump. He says,
OK, let's go to court over it. That's totally fine. The purpose of the judiciary is to extend
beyond short terms. We have a president every
four years. We have Congress every two years. We have senators every six. And then we have judges
which have I don't know the appointments for lower courts and Supreme Court's lifetime.
The goal there is Obama. There will be a difference in the branch's influence over a
long period of time. The issue at hand is when a judge extends
beyond his jurisdiction, that is foreign affairs, international negotiations and powers under the
executive solely for foreign relations. If Donald Trump said, I'm going to transport this criminal
from this federal prisoner from New York to California for the purpose of trial and a lower
court district
judge in D.C. banged the gavel to stop, turn that car around. We have an injunction. I'd say it's
totally fine. I know they're obstructing. I know they're doing it for obstructive reasons,
but this is different. This is a president saying, as for the DOJ, the DOJ gets challenged by a judge.
We have these these checks for a reason. I'm fine with those limitations. If Donald Trump says we
have captured the leader of a terrorist organization, he's being transported to one of our allies. And a judge says, no,
it undermines the president's authorities as commander in chief doesn't fly. But let's jump
to this next story because we are going to get back into that again. This is from The New York
Times. Pam Bondi calls Tesla vandalism domestic terrorism, promising steep consequences. The
attorney general echoed remarks by President
Trump as protesters against Elon Musk and his efforts to shrink the government have defaced
and destroyed Tesla vehicles. Yeah, it's terrorism. And now the Post Maloneal reports,
activist group Indivisible Tennessee to stage Tesla protests at Franklin, Memphis, Knoxville,
and Chattanooga. Here's challenge. We know they're engaged in acts of terror. In Vegas,
they didn't just torch the Tesla dealership. They opened fire on it. Someone could be there and get killed when they're shooting bullets into these buildings. There's going to be employees. There's going to be custodians even or customers insane. We know that at the highest level, you've got Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert gloating and mocking the idea.
Essentially, it's encouraging it.
You've got people like Bill Burr cheering on the violence.
You've got a spattering of various leftists attacking random vehicles across the country.
How should the federal government handle this protest?
Should they say it is but a peaceful protest? It's always allowed. Or should they say this is organized? This is targeting Tesla.
Tesla are high priority targets of terror, and we will enforce the law in to to to grave
consequence. What they would have done four years ago is put a bunch of FBI agents in the protest
pretending to be protesters and made it go
violent on purpose so that they could arrest them all. Now what
they should do is probably keep an eye on the
protest if they get out of line,
crackdown. So this
was an issue during the BLM riots,
right? So historically, most
of Fortune 500 CEOs
have voted Republican.
Something like 70%. Not one Fortune 500 CEO
had a negative opinion about BLM, right? This was a Marxist violent organization. Not one of them
spoke out. Why didn't they speak out? Because this would have happened. Their headquarters would have
been firebombed. Their employees would have been beaten up. So this has been going on for a long
time. I think this is a big reason why corporations bent the knee and turned into these woke beasts.
It's absolutely it's got to be treated the exact same way that they would treat right wing political violence, which is absolute crackdown.
So I think Bondi is absolutely on people during the riots in 2020.
They were people putting like signs of like, please don't break my thing.
I'm not part of this.
Not only that, the government was encouraging it.
You had Democrat senators and representatives saying things like, you know, these people should be upset.
They should be out in the street.
They should be, you know, Maxine Waters was saying things like, oh, you don't give them a moment's rest.
Get in their faces at bars, etc.
The vice president of the United States, Kamala Harris, former vice president of the United
States, Kamala Harris, she was telling people, look, this is who you call if you want to
or she was advertising a website that would help defend people that were arrested.
So she was promoting the defense fund for people that were arrested arrested for crimes not arrested for protesting arrested for crimes in in during
the protests and the riots so the the idea that there is a equal playing field between the right
and the left that's just ridiculous it's completely and totally not true yeah the left and the left
need the the because of the way that the doj and the FBI are structured now, they they need to come down on the people that are committing these crimes extremely hard.
There's a guy are committing crimes.
Daniel, his name is Daniel Clark Pounder, 24 year old.
He just got he faces 20 years in federal prison after he allegedly firebombed the Tesla charging station.
And that is from so that's a 24 year old, just got 20 years in prison,
you know,
arguably way.
He's facing it.
He's facing 20 years in,
which is like,
whoa,
I get it.
Maybe they're using terrorism charges.
Um,
don't get roped up in this.
Don't think you're doing,
don't think it's fun.
Don't absolutely.
They should punish them as a means to deter other people.
Unfortunately,
the people that have already done these things,
they have decided to do these things.
This is terrorism.
It's not a question of whether or not it's terrorism.
It clearly is.
They're doing it in an effort to intimidate and frighten people.
They're destroying property.
They're committing violent acts.
They need to be made an example of.
You know, I wouldn't consider it sorry let me get to one point i wouldn't consider terrorism if it was just
random a bunch of different cars all over the place we're getting beat up it's one company
is getting targeted which is why i consider it terrorism one company and the private property
of individual citizens of the united states these cars are getting keyed they're getting firebombs
they're the people that own actually know the tesla the tesla ownerships are actually run by individual citizens of the United States. These cars are getting keyed. They're getting firebombs.
They're the people that own, actually, you know, the Tesla, the Tesla ownerships are actually run by Tesla.
So I'll go gloss over that.
So go ahead.
I'm sorry.
But yeah.
And then the next question is using recall on some of these organizations, right?
So Antifa says, no, no, we're not a formal organization.
Well, neither is the mafia.
The mafia does not have a mailing address with a bunch of registered, right?
These are all shadow organizations. And the job of the prosecutor is to figure out what is a substantive organization here.
So use that on Antifa, on, you know, whatever NGOs are currently associated with these crimes.
Pardon me?
Whatever NGOs are either pushing or funding or somehow associated with.
Absolutely.
Remember during the BLM riots, I think we had like U-Hauls full of cinder blocks.
Yeah.
Somebody paid for this.
And people.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it's not expensive.
Right.
I mean, relative to, so let's say there's some dude who works at a big tech Silicon
Valley firm and he makes $120,000 a year and he's got $10K in his bank account saved up
and he says, I'm going to he's got 10k in his bank account saved up and he says i'm gonna go spend a thousand dollars on bricks i always i always hear people
say like who paid for this and i'm like guys it's not that expensive to do some of these things
couple hundred bucks you can get signs printed up i guess you'd have to take into account one how
much was spent on the terrorism to get it funded and two how much damage was done by the terrorism
after the fact and put those two things together or not necessarily additive but it's it's both
important because i think because if someone spends 100 million to try and get some terrorist
event done and the event fails and no no damage is done that's not so i mean it's still 100 million
dollars was spent on terrorism but there's no damage so like hard to prosecute it's conspiracy
then correct yeah i mean you can you can absolutely prosecute for a conspiracy to commit a terrorist act.
So the more money put into it, the more likely it would be considered a conspiracy by charge.
Well, I mean, if there are people that are planning, you know, multiple people that are planning, because you mentioned RICO earlier.
If there are multiple people planning on doing something, that in and of itself is a crime.
So what takes to get to RICO charges?
What do you need to get there?
What would it, like a bunch of people on a Facebook group being like, hey, don't, I'm
not saying go out and, but like, is that RICO?
Or like, well, what point would it become?
I imagine there may be better legal scholars here, but, you know, if you've got a bunch
of mafia guys who are sort of joking, not joking, like, hey, take care of him. Ha ha, wink.
The prosecutor would be very interested in all those kinds of statements.
And, you know, whether or not it was sort of a wink, wink statement is immaterial.
Honestly, if that, if it can be that loose, I'd round up people like Jimmy Kimmel, too.
Because if it's as loose as, hey, take care of him, wink, wink.
Anyone that said things about, you know, free Luigi or whatever, they're advocating the, you know, they're supporting terrorists, they're aiding and abetting or whatever.
I don't know that it is, but if it is that kind of loose association, round them up too.
Well, money and I think like leadership structure are traditionally used to define like a RICO organization.
So if person A is commanding person B to do something, and then they usually look at the money because generally money ties it all together.
So, you know, if you look at those for Antifa, I think that would be absolutely fascinating.
Unfortunately, then it's probably the people that are on late night TV making jokes.
You probably don't want to go that far because at that point it is First Amendment advocacy.
The challenge is that what we're seeing, we described it as the ice bucket challenge of terrorism.
It's a standalone complex.
It is a cultural emergent phenomenon.
These people don't need to be organized.
They know what to do without direction.
So when someone makes a video and they look at the camera and they say, you know what to do without direction. So when someone makes a video and they look at the camera and they say,
you know what to do,
they all instantly know what the reference is.
And then if you actually went to court
and went before a jury and said,
look, he said, you know what to do,
they're going to be like, what?
And he's going to just go,
I was talking about buying ice cream.
So doesn't that work with ISIS, for example,
when they're recruiting people?
So the organization is intentionally atomistic.
They don't have an hierarchical structure because they're trying to sort of deny connections.
So if you define Antifa, for example, if you designate that as a terrorist organization, then at that point, I guess you can trigger and everything you use against ISIS.
And of course you can because they're international, which is that a lot of people don't understand this.
When there were discussions about labeling Antifa terror, a terrorist organization, many on the right and the left, largely leftists were like, you can't domestic groups can't be declared terrorists because of the First Amendment.
And then people pointed out Antifa is an international entity. So if an American,
if Americans pledged allegiance to Hamas or ISIS or whatever group, yeah, you're you're going to
get charged. You can get charged with terror, providing material support or otherwise.
Same is true for Antifa. So it can happen. Antifa has been international. Antifascista.
That was ancient. That's been around for a long time. It started in other countries.
And it still exists. There's Antifa in other countries today. And so they're loosely knit.
So, however, the challenges for an American citizen who's not Antifa or anything like that, they've been making social media videos saying things like, why won't someone just do it?
And then people know what there's a reference to.
But if you were to the video can't get banned. The feds can't do anything about it.
What are they going to say?
They're going to be like,
oh, I was talking about
someone needing to wash the car.
Oh, geez.
What do you mean?
I didn't say anything.
Yeah, they didn't.
So how do you deal with it?
I don't know.
This is the complicated part
of free speech
is your system is vulnerable
to insinuation
and like mind control
and manipulation
through legal channels.
Yeah. Well, that's why earlier I was saying money and hierarchy.
I think that you really can't get past that because otherwise you're impinging too much on First Amendment.
And if there's no money, if it's just random comments through social because now that we have social media, you don't necessarily need a hierarchy.
There's just like algorithms.
You do have long-standing laws
about incitement right so you have incitement the riot so i don't know if that i think it's
got to be pretty direct yeah they got to have usually it's a direct um threat with like time
with like a time like it needs to be an adjunct call to it like at this time at this place we're
doing this thing and if those three things are apparent, it's become an actual threat, like a legitimate illegal.
Otherwise, it's just like if you're like, I'm going to go illegal thing.
Totally legal to say that out loud.
I mean, there are some things I think might get you in trouble.
Like if you're messing with like the command structure of the military and you're saying you're going to go do something, they'll they might come in and try and check you out.
But generally, you're allowed to make threats if they're not imminent threats.
Imminent threats.
You can't direct people to do things
or declare you're about to do a thing.
But when Bill Burr said that he thought
people should commit heinous acts against billionaires,
that's just a thought he's allowed to have.
We got this story here from Gravy,
and it's a clip from Colbert. Colbert
on Tesla cars getting wheels stolen. I do not condone this, but I do appreciate your tireless
efforts. So we've got Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel essentially advocating for the terrorism that
we are seeing. I don't know where this clip start, but let's let's roll it.
Trump is not destroying everything we love all on his own
he's getting a big assist from tesla ceo and
and guest of the white lotus undressing that corpse with his eyes
elon musk uh that has led a lot of protests around the country at tesla dealerships
now i want to be clear i do not condone violence or vandalism of any kind.
That is a deeply held belief of mine that comes from the bottom of my CBS legal department.
With that in mind, I find it interesting that there's a growing trend of cyber trucks being vandalized and used as skate ramps or covered in garbage.
To be fair, to be fair, that might not be vandalism.
That might just be a simple mistake because they do look a lot like a dumpster.
It's vandalism, dude.
Tesla owners, Tesla owners are facing backlash everywhere they go.
Recently, somebody stole the wheels from every single tesla in a texas parking lot whoever did it i do not condone this but i do appreciate your tireless efforts
what's this
what happened when jesse smollette lied about getting attacked?
Every single show was somber.
Oh, yeah.
That this could happen in this country is shocking.
How could this?
It never happened.
Yet when innocent people are being attacked, it's funny.
Hey, we got Jimmy Kimmel.
Don't forget Jimmy Kimmel.
Wait, we don't got Jimmy Kimmel.
Got it.
Now we got Jimmy Kimmel. Wait, we don't got Jimmy Kimmel. Got it. Now we got Jimmy Kimmel.
Okay, apparently we...
Oh.
Now we got...
Other than the stock market for a change.
Our co-president, Elon Musk, sent a SpaceX vehicle to bring the astronauts back.
And when they landed, he fired them immediately upon landing.
Tesla stock is way down, almost disastrously so people
people have been vandalizing tesla vehicles new tesla vehicles please don't
vandalize don't ever vandalize tesla vehicles and so uh
elon musk has been making the rounds in the right. We all get the implication of what his joke was meant to be.
That light pause with a look to the camera was the wink.
The wink and the nod.
That's ABC effectively saying do it.
Yeah, man.
I do want to give a shout out real quick just to this clip before we go.
Once again, I got to unmute this stuff, don't I?
Even Colbert?
Good. There we go. This weekend, a man and a woman who, don't I? Even Colbert? Good.
There we go.
This weekend, a man and a woman who are serving.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I got to tee this off.
This is from March 13th, 2022.
Living together in the resistance, took a break from fighting to get married on the front lines.
It's like a wedding in Texas, but with slightly fewer guns.
Although, although I must say, I must say, huge faux pas.
Everyone knows you're not supposed to wear the same color camo as the bride.
Where is she? Where? Where is she?
I'll tell you what, I will never complain about a destination wedding again.
Russia has been hit with a series of crippling sanctions,
and it looks like there's more to come,
because the U.S. and its European allies
are now discussing banning imports of Russian oil.
Take that, Putin.
We're not going to buy our gas from a war criminal.
We're going to buy it from the good guys, Saudi Arabia.
But it's going to cost.
Since the invasion, oil prices have skyrocketed.
Today, the average gas price in America hit an all-time record high of over $4 per gallon.
Okay, that stings, but a clean conscience is worth a buck or two.
I'm willing to pay.
It's a buck or two per gallon.
It's important.
It's important.
I'm willing to pay $4 a gallon.
Hell, I'll pay $15 a gallon because I drive a Tesla.
You do?
Steven, you drive a Tesla?
Oh, no.
But it was a clean conscience you said, right?
You have a clean conscience driving a Tesla?
It's a cult.
And I think that proves it to everybody.
Do you think that Colbert sold his Tesla?
I don't think so.
I wonder.
The mothership came up with new messaging.
And boy, you have to move fast.
You saw what happened to J.K. Rowling, right?
Lifetime member of the cult and good standing.
Every single opinion, check that box.
One opinion off off you're done
one opinion off that is that is just as simple as men are men and women are women yeah but i but i
but i think jk rowling specifically was like we shouldn't have men in female prisons yeah i think
that was the first issue that she brought up she's was like, wow, a man was placed in a female prison, and that's scary.
And then they went after her for it.
And then someone put up a billboard that said, I heart JK Rowling.
And they called it hate speech and took it down, which is insane.
And then billboard Chris explained how famously he and Canada did the same thing, and they called it hate speech and took it down.
Just saying, I heart JK Rowling.
Well, don't watch Harry Potter on, what does it come on, HBO?
I heart JK Rowling.
I heard they're race-swapping Snape anyway, so I will not be watching it.
It's wild that they're remaking.
Remake?
Well, I mean, bro, it's been 20-something.
It's been 20 years, hasn't it?
Wow.
Yeah.
I can't even believe that.
You're old, Phil.
I don't want to talk about it.
I read the book when I was working at Ground Zero at 9-11.
That's when I got into Harry Potter.
I was an actual adult when Harry Potter came out, and it was 20 years ago.
I was a small child.
I thought Colbert, I don't normally talk crap about people,
particularly behind their back, things I wouldn't say to their face.
I've had it out, not out for this guy.
He's such a waste of talent.
He is just garbage performance.
This guy, since his Colbert report,
would just say fake stuff.
He would just lie to people.
But it was in the guise of comedy.
Like, they act like they're news agents,
and then they, in one, but one sentence,
they'll just lie, and it's supposed,
but it's okay, because I'm a comedian,
so I'm allowed to lie to you.
The clarification is,
the setup to the joke is implied to be the truth,
and the punchline is implied to be the lie. But they will lie is the setup to the joke is implied to be the truth and the punchline is implied to be the lie.
But they will lie in the setup as if they're telling you the truth.
So on The Daily Show a few weeks ago with the gutting of USAID, the setup for the joke is today, you know, Elon Musk went into the USAID and began firing lots of people, cutting foreign aid to developing nations.
And then blah, blah, joke.
And you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
That first part's not true.
They treat it like an actual news story.
So you think it's true.
That's the manipulation.
He started it off with our co-president, Elon Musk.
Not true.
I don't know why you said that.
It's not funny.
People didn't even know if they were supposed to laugh.
Hold on.
I can understand what you're saying on that, but that's not nearly as egregious as how Colbert will be like, take a look at this.
Here's a news clipping in a report, and he's lying to America about it.
The purpose of the joke after the fact is to cover up the fact that he just gave you fake news.
Because then when they're called out on it, he goes, it joke and then they go yeah it was a joke you're so dumb
that's it man i got i've had problems with this guy since 2006 i made a youtube video
right at him in 2006 being like you are a fake piece that showed him it's i i was like you know
what i don't even care if people see my stuff i put that energy out into the universe and they
feel it because those vibrations they yeah and other people see my stuff. I put that energy out into the universe and they feel it. Because those vibrations, they get you.
Yeah, and other people see it and the ripples through Kevin, seven steps of Kevin Bacon.
Everyone knows Kevin Bacon through seven people.
Yeah, he felt that.
But I was tired of that Colbert crap.
He's a junk artist, man.
That guy is fake as fuck.
I mean, he was always doing a shtick, right?
He was an actual liberal or leftist, well, liberal playing a conservative. That was his shtick. Like it was he was making a like Stephen Colbert when he had the Colbert report. It was like it was a joke. He wasn't actually a conservative. He was mocking. He was, you know, lampooning conservatives. And so it was a you know it was a a character he was playing now it's less so like he's not really playing a character anymore he's not really the
same you know doing the lampoon thing he's just being more just lying to people for real i mean
he's just a normal normal he's a normal leftist he's not much different than jimmy kimmel or or
manipulative as hell that's why they put him on The Tonight Show. He would lie on The Colbert Report.
He'd come out and be like,
he'd talk about how we have to be at war in 9-11.
We gotta go.
And you're like, dude, quit saying this stuff.
I know it's all in just good fun, Stephen,
but you know how many people
are manipulated by that crap, dude?
He was thinking.
He doesn't realize it.
Like he was thinking,
like the point of what he was saying was like,
he was playing a character.
He didn't believe the things that he was saying. Yeah, right. So same with The Tonight Show. I'm sure he'll be like, like, well, the point of what he was saying was, like, he was playing a character. He didn't believe the things that he was saying.
Yeah, right.
So, same with Tonight Show.
I'm sure he'll be like, no, no, it was just a character when I lied to you.
Okay.
Well, I'm not so sure.
I can't speak for him.
I don't know.
Garbage.
I don't like talking bad about people.
Like, fix yourself.
Fix yourself.
Fix myself.
That's obviously the main purpose in life.
But this is sickening.
This guy is just high
horse crap crap jimmy cameron and it pisses me off they're all all of them it is kind of crazy
to see where we're going um when the when the cultural zeitgeist to the left is terrorism
this is the precursor to civil wars guys i know baba lakliche but actually listen
in uh modern uh civil wars not in our war, media played a huge role when there was read about the Rwandan genocide.
Prominent personalities who were part of one group.
It was what was the name of the group that the Tutsi is the ones who got massacred.
The Hutu would constantly make jokes about violence like this.
They'd be like, I mean, like it was a component of the media that it was it was culturally prevalent and normal among the Hutu to say the Tutsi are bad and should be wiped out and all those things.
When they start going on TV and gloating and laughing about violence and terror against regular people. That's the direction we're going.
And I'm sorry, there's no off ramp.
Unless you go to Colbert and say,
Stephen, I'd like to explain to you how this is going to lead to chaos.
I mean, I told this to Jack Dorsey's face.
And y'all laughed at me.
But who's laughing now?
Nobody, actually, because we're all terrified.
But when I was on the Rogan podcast with Jack Dorsey and Vijay Gade,
one of the last things we talked about, I said, if you guys keep doing this, you are pushing this country to a civil war.
And they were like, I don't know about that.
A couple years later, I was like Mike Cernovich.
He was like, remember when Tim Pool warned them in 2019?
It's been two years and then all this stuff is happening.
Yeah, now it's 2025 and it's worse than we've ever seen.
The swattings and the terror attacks is the worst we've seen it.
They are they when you have the Summer of Love riots, it's bad, but it's indiscriminate.
It was just leftists going crazy in their own cities.
Today, there were two assassination attempts on Donald Trump, technically a third foreign one, but I mean, two domestic ones.
And now you have directed terrorism from the left targeting
conservative personalities at their homes. I keep thinking I was listening to the show last night,
too, and I'm like, Civil War. No, that's the big ask. I can't do Civil War, but I can give you
revolution. No, we're in a revolution, baby. We were co-opted in 1913. You actually brought up
the Pendleton Act early 1871 that that's's when this coup started in the United States.
And it's been 150 years that this bureaucracy has been in control of the United States government.
It's a revolution to take the country back. That's what's happening behind the scenes right now.
It is. It's a revolution when one side takes the country back.
You can argue that the election of Donald Trump is a revolution.
But the issue is, what do you call it when there are two factions fighting for control of one
government? That's called a civil war. So, yeah, so I think they've had this kind of long march
through the institutions, right? And they've been playing that year by year, generation by
generation. I think a big part of that has been capturing the deep state. In other words, using
tax revenue to sort of create this fake left. But another big part of it, I of that has been capturing the deep state. In other words, using tax revenue to sort of create this fake left.
But another big part of it,
I think has been indoctrinating the kids,
right?
So every generation gets left there and left there because of how they've
used the education system.
Now,
I think what happened is in COVID,
they saw what they thought was the opportunity of the century,
that they were going to move the ball
like 30 yards right because i mean just like it was just handed to them by fate and they launched
too soon they needed another generation or two to really completely seal the deal to you know
indoctrinate uh enough americans so that we could never ever get back i think they launched too soon
and so what did that do?
It got their hopes up, got them really excited.
It was crazy in 2020.
Like everybody was against us, right?
Like the American Association of Actuaries, you know, was going on about, you know, how systemic racism is applied.
You're just like, why do you have opinions on these things?
You know, they were like just dancing that they had complete victory and then it just vanished, right? It just evaporated.
So they are frustrated. At this point, they feel like they're out of ammo. They're throwing the
guns at us now. So they're desperate. So on the one hand, yes, I think they've escalated into more
violence than ever. On the other hand, I think that's what's happening.
Their hopes got so high and they were so horribly disappointed now that they are desperate.
It's good because they're no longer in control.
They're no longer strategic.
They're making mistakes, just like they made mistakes in 2020.
Yes, and it's like an immune response like the body has developed immunity
and not you don't need 100 protection to have immunity and there's still viruses
attacking organs and things but the body's immunity has overtaken the problem so the
viruses aren't in control of the system anymore that is what it feels like and these acute little
bouts of inflammation are like in my hope it's that it is just part of the healing process.
You know, the future is unwritten.
Obviously, we're influencing right now.
So do you have a sense of where this is headed?
Because me and Tim, like Tim said, there's no off ramp.
And that's something that we've been saying around here a lot. I don't see an off ramp because I don't know if you can't get people on the left to say things like, yes, it's bad for there to be terrorist activity because they believe that Donald Trump is a fascist or that these things that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are doing will somehow lead to fascism, which I don't understand how they can conceive of
that, but take for, you know, take at their word that they believe that if they believe that, then
there isn't anything that's beyond the pale to do to prevent a fascist takeover. So that's,
that's part of why I don't see an offering. What, what's your sense of, of what the next,
you know, year is going to bring or two years?
Yeah, I think there's always like a hardcore, whether it's five or 20 percent. And those
people maybe are beyond redemption. Thank goodness in democracy they don't matter.
But the question is, you know, you've got another whatever, 20 or 30 percent who are they believe in
this left wing stuff just because they're fans of Jimmy Kimmel or whatever.
They're not really dedicated activists.
They're the ones who I think are in play.
And honestly, I'm very optimistic about the trends.
You know, I think that the media,
the alt-media is by far stronger than it's ever been.
If you look back to the 1970s and 1960s, right,
you had a monolithic left-wing media.
You didn't even have Rush Limbaugh yet.
You had zero voice from the right.
The closest you had was maybe William F. Buckley.
I mean, just nothing, right?
And yet we fought them to a standstill.
Yes, we were losing ground, but not that badly
considering that we had absolutely zero voice.
So I think that if you look back over the past 150 years,
the period of left-wing domination of newspapers and then TV
and then radio and so on. I think that we're actually in a really, really good spot here.
I was shocked that media pulled out all the stomps going into the 24 election, right? They
compared him to Hitler. They I mean, they just that everything they had every in the arsenal,
they were like, throw it all now. It now it was insane right and it didn't work
so i think that's a very very important number we continue gaining uh if you look at the new media
i mean people like us but just you know you've got new guys on on like youtube and x all the time
these people are so much higher quality than the garbage that is being peddled i think that what
we're looking at now is that 60 people who are in their 60s or 70s,
they're slowly being replaced
by people who are in their 20s.
Nobody in their 20s
watches ABC News.
No, no.
I mean, like zero, right?
So the media is trending
in our direction.
The left had been convinced so long
that time was on their side
because both immigration,
illegal immigration,
and capturing the education system.
Now when I look at media, when I look at the trends in there, time is on our side.
We are winning.
So we're already in control right now.
We are discovering the last fedayin, like the last insane Japanese soldiers living in the forest at this point,
these guys doing the violence, right?
This is no longer controlled, like mature opposition.
This is no longer controlled, like mature opposition. This is desperate. So it looks bad at the moment, but I think we're actually it's like when the fever breaks and you start healing. because all of these judges are seeking to obstruct Donald Trump's rulings, protecting USAID,
protecting federal workers, stopping deportations, and now stopping Donald Trump's banning of
transgender people serving in the military. Some activists have argued, don't bother impeaching
because you need two thirds majority of the Senate. Why don't you just defund their district
to the simple majority? And that'll be a major move. But as much as I can appreciate this, Musk doing this is intending to drive that story,
which will hopefully empower the senators who are doing well.
Charlie Kirk talked in the end of last year about going after these senators who are rhinos
and are not supporting real accountability.
But this goes back to the question of Donald Trump's authority in the Constitution.
And as we were just talking about conflict in this country, civil war versus revolution,
I would say that the conflict has reached the highest levels under Donald Trump today.
But it's curious.
In Trump's first term, they were accusing him of being a Russian spy.
They were imprisoning the people who worked with him.
They were Flynn before he even got started. They didn't put him in prison, but they ran him over the coals.
Carter Page has run through the coals, all of these things. You had Manafort was actually
charged and Politico reported that it was Ukraine who fed those documents to the U.S.
They could go after him. Now Donald Trump is president again, and they seem to be on the outs,
but they are still fighting. So it may be that this is the back end of the conflict and things are going to start simmering down now that Trump is in control. Of course, they're resisting. Of course, there's violence and terror from the left right a death rattle. Certainly they're still there, but they
are thrashing about in the water, grasping for straws. No one wants to tolerate. You know,
it's funny when we played that clip earlier in the show of Colbert saying he drives a Tesla.
Many Americans drive Teslas. They have no idea what's going on with politics.
They're going to walk outside and find their tires slashed or something and say,
I don't understand why this is happening to me. What did I do wrong? I was told to buy an electric car. So I did. And now the left is destroying my
car for having done it. It may be that regular people just say Trump, lock them up. And then
we get an end to the conflict. The federal judges lose power. Trump does what he wants. And that's it. I'm not so confident of such a rosy prediction.
I think that now that I don't think that Tim's got points, I just think that the left isn't going to go away that easy. in the U.S. and generally these these philosophies that that people have whether they're
fully thought out or if they're just emotional inclination I don't think that I think that
they're significantly part of us like they're the if you're a right-leaning person I think that's a
strong portion of it is because of your personality if you're a left-leaning person
I think a strong portion of it is because you're personality. If you're a left-leaning person, I think a strong portion of it is because of your personality. Like, you know, Jordan Peterson and John Haidt
both talk about those kind of things. Peterson talks about the, you know, your psychology and
Haidt talks about the things that kind of lead you to have your political opinions in the righteous mind.
I think it's a great book.
And I think that you don't just get away from leftists.
You know, I don't think that you just win and then the game is over.
And I think that that's what the left kind of thought when Barack Obama was elected.
They thought that, OK, we're kind of reached an end of history point.
From now on, the Republicans are going to be only a regional, you know, in the South and they'll put up their candidate every year and every four years and
every four years we're going to stomp them. We'll always win forever. And we own the country now,
you know. So there's a fascinating book called Darwinian Politics by a guy named Paul Rubin,
and he's got kind of models of what motivates left and right.
And essentially,
right is focused on out-group domination and the left is focused on in-group domination.
Both of these are very necessary
in sort of a Darwinian situation
because otherwise your genes are going to be eliminated.
Sure.
Either by the next tribe over
or by the hot guy, whatever.
The guy who hunts well and then gets
all the girls. And so we have it built in to resist in-group, out-group. And those manifest
in modern terms in the left and the right. And these are enduring, right? You can go back to
Plato, and you've got an identifier left and right. You can go back through ancient China,
and you've got one group that's advocating for equality and another one that's interested in
the fitness of the group and resisting external domination.
So those both exist.
But I think that when we're talking about the left here as a concerning organization, that's fundamentally a hand in glove of the state.
And the state, you know, of course, has common cause with socialists.
Yes.
It wants there to be more government power, you know, and then it hires these sort of intellectual bodyguards that it directly funds.
So that, I think, is separate from this sort of innocent question of, you know, do we want more equality?
Because those have already been resolved by classical liberalism. Right. We're all equal before the law.
We all have equal rights to, you know, nobles are not supposed to be punished at different at lighter penalties, even though they in practice are.
But at any rate, we've already resolved those questions largely. The question now is what
about this violent hand in glove of the government? That I think is absolutely defeatable.
I didn't expect Doge to uncover what it did, right? I was thinking it would be exciting
because it would lower government spending, that would bend the curve on inflation.
Maybe we could get rid of some regulations, we could grow the economy. So I was excited on those
grounds. And once I started seeing that, just the rats nest in there. But moreover, the realization
that the entire violent, radical left is tax funded, meaning that you can cut it off. Now,
the judges are doing, of course, they're going to fight that, you know, because they understand that that's that's like their jugular, right? That is that is their mother's
milk. That's what sustains the whole thing. But I'm much more excited now that we can crush this
thing once and for all. Sure, people will be left and right, but it won't be this dangerous form.
Well, I if you go back to the 90s, left and right largely agreed on everything.
Yeah. And there were a couple of wedge issues. Yeah. And then there were anti-war people who were like the Democrats and Republicans completely agree.
And even into the 2000s, it was still very similar.
Today, it is hyper polarized.
Yeah.
9-11.
We'll go forward.
To your point, like there was this this hardcore band that I listened to in the 90s called Earth Crisis.
And they were a straight edge, hardcore band.
You would think that because they were straight edge,
no drugs, you know, you would think that they were,
they would be leftists.
And they might have considered themselves leftists,
but they were absolutely and totally against abortion
because it's killing to them.
They were like, this is killing an innocent life, you know?
And there's this one song that's that's it's called Firestorm.
And it's one of the best hardcore songs ever written.
But it's like the whole point of it is is going through town and cleaning up the drugs, the drug addicts and the dealers and the people that are basically destroying society, which is very it sounds very right leaning.
But they would have they were vegans they were straight edge they were all about animal liberation which are you're you're strongly
associated with the left today um and so to tim's point there was a time where it wasn't so clearly
left and right were so polarized there were actually issues that someone on the right and
someone on the left could agree on nowadays it's almost as if they're they're people take their
positions based on what the other part other party decides well well right now there are there is
america which is post-liberals dis disaffected liberals, libertarians, conservatives, MAGA, even some neocons.
And then there is the, I guess you'd call it the anti-party.
The liberals of this country are literally, we have no plans, we are just your opposition.
So you have forces of light, creation, protection, expansion, discussion, enlightenment.
And then you have forces of darkness. They
literally only seek to destroy and there is no ideology backing anything they do.
This is, I think you're absolutely right. And, you know, if you look at that sort of 1990s,
when we did have overlap, so let's call that Bill Clinton, right? He had a bunch of policies where
relative to traditional Democrats, he was trying to swing to the center. Border security was a big issue.
He wanted the culture to be more uplifting, not as crass and so on.
But the thing is that Donald Trump is essentially Bill Clinton, right?
In other words, he is occupying that centrist space.
But just like you said, so you have this massive coalition that in terms of what they've always
believed in their lives, voter preferences, they're on board with Trump.
That was a running joke after the election, right, was that the Democrats won, right?
We had Tulsi and RFK.
We had all these Democrats, including Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan.
So I think that's absolutely true.
And the left is contracting now to where it's not sort of that natural 50-yard line of the population.
It's like 7% or 5%%. Sustained at this point only by
corporate media and government money.
Yeah, I don't even...
I've ceded away from using
left and right terms as much
because since the internet,
since 9-11 and the internet
and movies like Zeitgeist,
where people learned about
fractional reserve currency
for the first time in their lives,
they learned about what's called
the military-industrial complex.
That wasn't like talking on...
CBS never mentioned that in the nineties.
No one knew that there was fiat.
I didn't,
was never taught that in school.
It was under the radar.
So we had like political differences,
but we still got along.
Then the,
the,
the,
you still have like your anti-war people,
but it's just what you said.
The media came in and kept brainwashing.
And the people that were like resistant to it,
were able to start thinking for themselves and they broke away that was a great majority of the population but there's
a segment that we just watch kept watching cbs and they're stuck in this like imperial propagandist
loop of like let's fascistly control your country through banking it's but they don't they they're
told like they're doing the fascist thing look over there and you're like i don't they they're told like they're doing the fascist thing. Look over there. And you're like, I don't I personally I like when I when I hear people talk about like controlling a country through fascist banking.
I don't think that that or at least I don't find that compelling.
Like, I think that like, you know, equity markets and markets are good.
You know, money has a value, has a value. And also there's a price to borrow money. I think interest rates shouldn't be set by the Federal Reserve.
But the idea of lending money at interest, to me, I don't have a problem with that.
And I mean, and it also allows for, you know, for a lot of production in the economy.
And I think that you would probably agree with me there, you know.
No, for sure. I mean, I think the objectionable part of it is the fascist or
corporate sense where, you know, companies are calling the shots on this. We also fundamentally,
we have a dangerous architecture and how the banks are set up, which is fractional reserve banking.
Sure. Yeah. Fractional reserve banking means that the entire banking system is permanently bank run,
bankrupt by design. The only thing keeping us afloat is the guarantee of bailouts by the Fed or by Treasury.
If those are ever in danger, which is what happened in 2008, right?
The 2008 crisis, everybody was coasting along doing great, right?
They were massively overleveraged.
They were printing money on Wall Street.
They had the hookers, the blow, the whole nine yards.
Everything was good.
And then W signaled that Lehman might not get bailed out.
And holy crap, that's what set it off, right?
So we have a very dangerous system.
I can see people opposing it.
There was a study that 93% of Americans say that they don't know anything about the Federal Reserve, which is how they like it, right?
For all we talk about it, right, for all in our circles, it's almost like a broken record.
The vast majority of people, they don't understand it.
And partly they don't understand it because it's intentionally difficult to understand.
It's designed that way.
They like it just fine.
So, yeah, I would agree the banking system is a huge problem, but there's a gulf there of explaining to people exactly why.
I think that, for me anyway, the biggest entry there to explain to people why the banking system is so bad the way it is,
is that the Fed is effectively the venture capitalist of every new crisis, every new war.
If you had to go to the American people and you say, hey, listen, you want to screw around in Afghanistan,
three and a half trillion is going to cost us, but that's okay because we're just going to raise your taxes.
So it'll be cool, 100,000 per household.
No way, right?
Instead, you get the Fed to float it all.
So the Fed steps in there and effectively finances.
It buys up enough government debt that it's not going to hit the markets.
You can get this through.
Imagine COVID, right?
So early in COVID, right, when they did the lockdowns,
there was an estimate up in Canada.
I was in Quebec at the time.
They estimated that GDP would drop in half,
which means tax revenue would drop in half,
which means government spending drops in half,
which means bureaucrats drop in half.
Now, can you imagine an early meeting during COVID where you're the junior bureaucrat and you show up,
you say, hey, I got an idea. Let's shut down everything.
We'll just lay off half the government workers.
Right. You're done. You're done in government.
You're out in Guam cleaning bathrooms.
No, instead they had the Fed.
So the Fed could print $6 trillion, theoretically finance the crisis.
So the problem now is whether it's global warming, whether it's a respiratory infection, okay, whatever the crisis is, the Fed can pump this up. And people need to understand
that is the dangerous part of fiat. Would you consider it a monopoly? Yeah. Well, it's a
counterfeiter and they have legal tender laws that mandate that you have to use it if you're in the
United States. So absolutely, yeah. You know, when a society is small, what is the story?
Basically, people had gold.
Gold is heavy.
It's precious metals.
And I believe gold got its value largely because it's relatively scarce but malleable,
so the kings could easily press them and then put the government seal on it that this is what we accept in as a currency, as legal tender.
So gold was valuable. Then people started saying gold's too heavy. I'm going to store it with a
bank. The bank then issues you a bank note saying we got gold. Eventually, people are like, I'll
just give you my note. You bring it to them. You get the gold. I don't want to deal with it.
Then the banks realized, hey, wait a minute. They're not even trading the gold anymore.
We can trade the gold behind their backs so long as we can pay.
How much on average do people pull out every month?
And they're like, I don't know, what, 9%, some small number?
So you mean we can trade about 90% of this gold and make loans
because no one's ever going to put a run on the banks?
Well, then people ran on the banks.
Was there one story where a guy got word got word in southern california something that
the banks were shutting down and they were freezing his assets so he got on a horse and
he ran as fast as he could on horseback to a bank in a neighboring town and then got his money
from that bank instead with the bank notes some crazy stuff like that eventually the government
went guys we don't even need gold nobody wants to carry it let's just get rid of it and then
seize it from everybody and put it in our vault at Fort Knox.
Hopefully.
I don't even know where it is anymore.
It's gone.
So what ends up happening is now with this massive system, nobody is actually tracking the hard value behind what currency is, what it's supposed to represent, the labor, the scarcity, etc.
And the bank – or I should say the government then realized, you guys guys we can just print as much money as we
want forever and sure inflation happens but who cares we get to live for free and so we see that
manifest in two ways you get the deficit spending where the pentagon loses or the pentagon can't
account for something like two trillion dollars in their audit it doesn't mean the money's gone
it means they don't know how it was transferred and where it ended up. So a lot of people thought that meant $2 trillion was taken from the bank,
put in someone's account. No, no, no, no. It means that they were like, someone spent 50 bucks here
and we don't know what it was for because the credit card transaction just says Amazon.
That's when you can't account for something. The next thing that happens is the government
starts issuing grant money to NGOs who then hire lawyers who live in McLean,
Texas and buy five million dollar mansions and don't actually do work. Now you live in the hunger
games. People like AOC then come out and say, guys, we can literally just deficit spend. We
don't need to ever balance the budget. We just need to balance the expansion of deficit. The
argument from these Democrats is if the rate of debt growth,
the size of the deficit maintains a certain percentage to interest, then we are able to
print money indefinitely, devalue the currency, but it's stable and it's devaluation.
So while we would argue our currency should retain its value for the labor we do, the modern argument is so long as we can project the devaluation, we're fine.
We just don't want to devalue too quickly.
That's where we're coming in.
Too much inflation too quickly would be bad for the scheme.
Now we are in a system of intentional inflation.
Well, there's one more piece to the intentional inflation.
They say that it spurs people to spend money and go out as opposed to sitting on the money.
So I don't know how much you might have.
The argument is if there's a certain low amount of inflation, people will not sit on money
because things that they want to buy
will be more expensive in a year.
And what actually is happening is
the guy who lives in McLean,
I say Texas, McLean, Virginia.
Sorry, I meant Virginia.
He's going to get a $5 million grant.
The government's going to grant his NGO $5 million,
and he's going to buy groceries.
At the end of the year, he's going to say,
what was the inflation? And they're going to grant his NGO five million bucks and he's going to buy groceries. At the end of the year, he's going to say, what was the inflation?
And they're going to say it was 17 percent.
He goes, OK, give me five point five million next year.
You've got a boss. Inflation doesn't affect the people who are skimming from the deficit spend.
Yeah. Yeah. So the point you're talking about with the people need to spend it. So we need inflation. So that goes to something.
So the way that government calculates the size of the economy is with GDP.
And it generally presents that as if that is telling us how wealthy we are.
Right.
GDP goes up.
It means we're getting rich.
GDP goes down.
It means we're getting poor.
GDP is not wealth.
GDP is activity.
It's like looking busy.
Some things are useful when you're looking busy,
like building a Tesla. Some things are not like digging up holes and filling them or say,
building ammunition to go launch at countries that we have no fight with. All right. And so
you want to separate those two things, right? So if you are forcing people to go spend
by, you know, essentially eroding their dollar by using inflation, then yes,
they will be more busy. The GDP will go up. They will be desperate to go buy crap so that they
don't lose their purchasing power. But that's actually impoverishing them. So what you'd rather
do is look at the wealth. Now, this matters because right now when we talk about what's
happening with the economy, most of what Trump is doing is very, very good for the economy,
makes us rich, cutting taxes, getting rid of red tape is doing is very, very good for the economy. It makes us rich.
Cutting taxes, getting rid of red tape, regulations, drill, baby, drill.
But two of the things that he's doing will reduce GDP even as they make us rich.
Those are mass deportations and doge.
So government spending shows up as GDP because they're grading themselves and government
statisticians are making the numbers, right?
So they say every dollar we spend in the government,
even if it's blowing up a bridge in Ukraine and then building it again the next year,
in Iraq, we literally would do that, right?
We'd blow something up, build it.
Each time, GDP, bam, right?
And then the other one is mass deportation.
So if you bring in a bunch of aliens here who, say, can't read,
and you give them a bunch of welfare and you put them up in expensive hotels in Roosevelt, boom, all shows up as GDP.
If they steal a job from an American, again, shows up as GDP because the American is getting welfare.
The illegal is now earning a wage.
Right.
And so you put that together and all of it is we're all very, very busy.
OK, but we're bankrupting.
And so that will be a distinction where we may well see a recession this year if Doge actually cuts spending and if we, you know, deport two million people.
Would it be smart to like grade our GDP?
Like this is a green GDP.
This is orange.
This is yellow.
This is red.
Depending on how valuable it actually is to the sustainability of the system.
Yeah.
I mean, it's tricky, you know, because you'd have to dig in and be like, you know, how much are church services worth? You know, the simple way to do it, which both Milton Friedman and Murray Rothbard liked is just separate, take out government from GDP. Doesn't count. percent literacy rate on the kids they graduate. They spend $28,000 a year. I would argue that's
not GDP. That's destruction. You took perfectly good kids and perfectly good buildings and you,
right? The Soviet Union did that, by the way. They would make furniture. They would take timber that
had actual value. They could have exported it to Germany. It had value. And they turned it into
furniture that was so garbage that they actually removed value. So the simple answer is just take
government out,
subtract it from GDP,
and just look at private sector GDP.
At that point, you're relying on people's willingness
to buy the product to tell you
whether it was valuable or not.
You're not making any more judgment on that.
And the reason you don't want to make judgments
is because fundamentally,
Trump will not be in power forever.
Deep state bureaucrats will control
how all these statistics are calculated,
so you want to keep it as clean as possible.
What about like NGOs?
Would that be considered GDP?
Not if they're funded by the government.
Yeah, it's tricky.
It's debatable.
I mean, they're not producing final goods and services, but it depends how you define it.
So, yeah, that would be a gray area.
You classified the Federal Reserve as a counterfeiting system.
Absolutely. 100%. Why is that? You classified the Federal Reserve as a counterfeiting system.
Absolutely. 100%. Why is that?
That's always been the deal with central banking is that some hustler shows up and tells the government,
hey, listen, I'm going to finance your debt.
And in exchange, I want a license to counterfeit money.
That is the fundamental deal ever since the Bank of Amsterdam, which predated the Bank of England, Bank of Sweden,
those were the early ones, and the Fed was actually late to the game. That is the fundamental deal.
We finance you in exchange for a license to print money. Now, about a quarter of the money that's
printed in the US, in other words, a quarter of the inflation comes from that. The Fed essentially,
they sit in a basement, they type ones and zeros in an Excel sheet. They say, this is money, and then they go and buy stuff. That is how the money gets born.
That's about a quarter of inflation. The other three quarters of inflation is the fraction
reserve banking we were talking about, which is where banks literally, like when you go for a
bank loan, if you go to get a mortgage, the bank will tell you, you have to open an account in this
bank. You say, why is that? Why can't you just send me the money in my other bank?
Well, the reason is because they are creating the bank, the money from thin air.
So they create the money, and then traditionally, they have to put a certain amount in reserve. Tim
was talking about 9%. It was something like that. But they actually got rid of that during COVID.
And so at this point, a bank can, in principle- They did bring it back. I'm pretty sure they
brought it back, because we've covered it quite a bit. When COVID started,
they removed the fractional
reserve limit. It used to be
that a bank can only lend out
up to 90%, I think it was 90%
of their holdings, which meant
that money was created upon
the issuance of debt. A bank has a million dollars,
they can issue $900,000
in loans. They're not giving
$900,000 in cash, they're creating a debt. So they have $1.9 million. They go from $1 million, they can issue $900,000 in loans. They're not giving $900,000 in cash.
They're creating a debt.
So they have $1.9 million.
They go from $1 million, they can loan out $900,000,
but they have to print that $900,000 first.
It's created digitally.
And then once they have $1.9 million,
they can take 90% of that number too.
And boy, does that inflate.
A bank has a million bucks.
They give you a loan for $900,000,
which creates the currency for the purchase of a building that person sells the building the guy who gets the cash goes whoopee
goes to that bank and gives the 900 000 to them they now have 1.9 now they have 1.9 they can issue
another loan for 90 of that and so it goes on yep so it's one over the number and so it can get 10
50 100 times during covid they removed the limit and said you can loan as much as you want whenever you want um do you think i'm kind of all about the
repeal the federal reserve act of 1913 investigate the fed audit the fed ron paul is big on it i
think trump's loves the idea but it's like okay there are many hornet's nests that one's pretty
big what would that look like?
Well, look at what's going on with USAID.
Trump kicked a small source of,
actually, I'd say a large source of funding.
We found that we had that $375 billion EPA slush fund that Zeldin found,
and there was $20 billion going to climate change NGOs,
one of which was formed like the month prior
and then received a multi-billion dollar award.
Yet nobody believes that's real.
Now go take a look at the Fed and good luck.
Yeah, I think there's a very good chance they're going to audit it.
And if they do, you know, what we've seen with those so far is just the ammunition is amazing.
Like the kinds of fines you find.
Let me simplify it for everybody.
It's hard to understand the Fed.
How can the average person grasp this? Here you go. Imagine there was a group of individuals who did not do any work and they were wealthier than you who lives in McLean, Virginia, sitting around, who makes $13 million a year
and literally does not work because he's part of the machine that was built to steal from you.
Literally the Hunger Games.
They live in the Capitol.
They don't have to work.
They get to be millionaires.
They get to be billionaires.
And they don't do anything.
The Fed is basically a way to control that money for nobility.
And the peasants and the peons have to work for the rest.
I thought the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 was the beginning of the coup.
You said, no, no, no, it was the Pendleton Act, potentially, 1871.
What was that? What happened?
So the Pendleton Act was the first attempt to create a professional bureaucracy.
And it was pushed through by the left, and they were attacking government corruption.
Government is always corrupt, newsflash.
No matter who runs it, no matter how you structure it, government is one.
It is it is a fact of the universe.
And so they use government corruption to install this system where the bureaucracy was in theory going to be independent.
It was going to be independent of the president and in theory of Congress.
The problem is that once you do that, you are making
it independent of the voters, right? Because the only influence that voters have over the government
is through the president and through Congress. So if you've made the bureaucracy independent,
you've made it independent from voters, meaning who exactly does it serve? And we now know who
it serves, which is that it serves itself. And it develops relationships
with Golden Parachutes, with all kinds of outside organizations that does favors for them.
And they either give them money while they're in office, or they wait until they're out of office.
You know, the sort of stereotypical SEC commissioner who goes and has lunch with
Goldman Sachs, and they discuss what his career objectives are in the future.
Right. And so that was really the
bureaucratic coup. And that was, I think it was 1871 or 73. And then it built up over time. And
that thing created this sort of outside organization that was permanently pushing to grow the government.
So once we had the Pendleton Act, before then, it kind of zigged and it zagged. The government
got bigger, it got smaller, got bigger, smaller. Generally,, wars made it bigger and then there'd be a reaction to that.
Andrew Jackson was the classic. He
absolutely shrunk the government massively.
He fired something like, I think he fired
about 10% of bureaucrats and he told the rest of them
get in line or you'll be next.
That was about 1830s. That was before
Pendleton. He also closed the Central Bank
by the way, the Fed at the time, the so-called
Second Bank of the United States. Awesome. So you had
these zigs and these zags.
Once you got Pendleton, at that point, it was a treadmill, only one direction up and up.
Who got put into the power of the bureaucracy when Pendleton got signed?
I think the year during that period, Republicans, which were the left-wing party,
they were the party of government, they generally dominated.
It was post-Civil War, and so they had disenfranchised a lot of southern states, which were traditionally Democratic.
So they kind of had a lock on power.
And that's why they put it in, because they were sort of institutionalizing that pro-government
power that at the time the Republicans were doing.
Now, the handicapping the Democrats turned out to be so successful that the Democrat
Party essentially gave up and just became a super Republican Party, which is how we got two left wing parties. We're going to jump to
this next story from The New York Times to change the subject in a hard segue, as it were. But we'll
come back to that in a minute. Ben and Jerry's accuses Unilever of firing its CEO for political
reasons. Ben and Jerry's had a court file and its parent company had ousted its chief executive,
David Stever, without approval from the ice cream makers board. Well, Ben and Jerry's had a court file and its parent company had ousted its chief executive, David Stever, without approval from the ice cream maker's board.
Well, Ben & Jerry's used to be great.
I remember when I was a kid and Cherry Garcia was becoming popular.
Everybody loved that.
Weird flavors you didn't normally get and they were very delicious.
And now all of a sudden it is the cringiest of cringe cult garbage.
And you've got these billboards.
I know my rights.
Colin Kaepernick's changed the
world. Indeed. So the long story short, the CEO was fired and the individuals at Ben & Jerry's say
that part of the agreement with the sale was that they would be continued to engage in their
social mission of the company. Apparently Unilever doesn't like it. And so now they're being sued.
They're accused of firing the
CEO because he allowed the ice cream maker to speak out on political issues in a filing Ben
and Jerry said Unilever had fired David Stever because of commitment to his company's social
mission rather than his job performance he has held the ice cream company's top job since 2023
we don't buy Ben and Jerry's anymore because they're psychotic. It's an insane company. But I do
find this to be absolutely hilarious in that it epitomizes meritocracy versus ideology.
Ben and Jerry's, I can only assume, is hurting if Unilever would violate their contract and fire
the guy knowing they were going to get into a lawsuit. I have to imagine if your
company prioritizes social issues over a product, i.e. you're an activist, nonprofit and not a
for profit ice cream maker, you are going to lose money. And here we are. So I guess what I can say
is woke is broke. Another victory. And this is the other side of the bud light coin or the other side
of the bud light hill bud light got woke they felt that burn really bad now on the corporate
side of things they're saying purge the woke and get it out i mean you do have a product that you
have to sell and the way that ben and jerry's behaves makes it clear that to at least a third of the
country they don't want you to buy their product and I mean look ice cream is is an everybody thing
I love ice cream right like I don't think there are a lot of people that don't love ice cream
and to just be like oh well we don't want you you know selling buying our product or or to be so
inundated with with the social issues it's got to hurt
business so so this goes back to at the top we were talking about the terrorism against tesla
and in in blm as well and i think that we are absolutely this is going to be a trend now where
companies are going to get back to basics traditionally in this country companies did
not get involved in politics because why piss off pretty much any opinion.
Because Republicans buy shoes too, right?
Exactly right. Like on, you know, on like Israel, Palestine, you are going to offend half your audience.
So just stay out of it. And that was the traditional wisdom.
But I think companies could not do that because of intimidation by the left.
And a lot of that was regulatory intimidation.
So in a lot of these businesses, especially in media, you can't piss off your regulator.
And once the left locked hands with regulators, a lot of these companies had to do what they did.
So now that you've got the government pressure coming off, the activist pressure coming off, now they can actually look again at the bottom line.
And, you know, you look at a company like Disney and that is just suicidal what they've done.
They know who their audience is. They're not that dumb suicidal what they've done. They know who their audience is.
They're not that dumb.
I mean, any of us know who their audience is.
Part of me thinks that Disney did the things they did because they believed that they had more influence than they do.
I think it is my prediction with the Bud Light story was that we were going to find out it was going to be some millennial woman who had just gotten promoted to the position who changed their policy from frat bro to
feminist lesbian. And what did we discover? Indeed, it was a millennial liberal woman
who recently got a promotion and said, no more fat white guys buying and drinking beer at the
grill. We want trans people.
She said we want young drinkers was what she said.
That was crazy.
Young drinkers. That's true.
In addition probably to what?
Attracting a new audience.
With Dylan Mulvaney, yeah.
And boy, did that really destroy the company
because it turns out that even 20-year-old people
would much prefer a beer commercial
where a guy is flipping a burger
as opposed to Dylan Mulvaney.
Like hitting a baseball.
I mean, something.
So I used to teach MBA marketing, right?
And it's like marketing 101 is you have to love your customer just the way they are.
You don't fix them.
You don't change them.
You don't lecture them.
Because if you do that, they're going to find another boyfriend, right?
They're going to go find somebody else who produces a product that is catered for them. And so corporate America, it's taken them a while. I think another element of that has been
the sort of shareholder advisory services, which is this way that woke can sort of insert itself
into the financial system and force companies to do weird things like, you know, like Disney doing
this or like Exxon doing green energy or just bizarre things. But fundamentally, I think that finally they're waking up.
They're shaking out of this.
You have to love your customers just the way they are.
Yeah.
I mean, you can't think that you're going to dictate opinions to your customers.
You have to go to people where they are.
Yeah, but take a look at Ben & Jerry's.
It's always been a leftist company.
I'd argue that their leadership was probably just saying, we've always been a progressive company. We're always going to be.
So we just go with that trend. But I think as it turns out, what is perceived to be their customer
is incorrect and people want to buy ice cream and it's off putting when they engage in these
kind of practices. Yeah. To be fair, though, actually, it's probably unfair um they made americone dream
steven colbert's waffle fudge ice cream whatever that's just a late night host and then they didn't
jimmy kimmel get one that was weird with potato chips or something like that i think so potato
chips are good uh colin capernick was just really off but i i do feel like they thought they were
targeting progressives and they were a social mission company they probably have their core audience which is those progressives and they have a whole bunch of people who just eat it because it tastes good and they don't care about the politics and they were losing them.
I think these companies thought woke was mainstream.
Maybe. Yeah.
That's why Target put the LGBT tuck friendly bathing suits up in the front where kids would see it.
And then parents freaked out and they were like, oh, man, was that not the right thing to do?
As the woke began to dominate media, they created a perception that they were the majority.
And most people were scared to speak up out of fear of getting canceled.
You know, it's really fascinating about this ideology of wokeness.
Two points.
The reason why I think Gen Z is going to break from the left is that you take a look at the Teslas.
This is not so much about Gen Z.
This is more about regular, you know, millennials or whatever.
We were all told to buy electric cars.
Colbert got one.
Two years later, they're torching them, shooting at them.
So that was a mistake.
We were all told we were allowed to make certain jokes.
Sarah Silverman lost a movie role because she did blackface at a time when it was totally appropriate to do.
Jimmy Kimmel did blackface.
Why was she being targeted?
What I see, what is likely to happen now is the young kids, the Gen Zers who grew up in an era where you could not know what was socially acceptable or not.
And you were constantly threatened.
You were living like a rabbit wound
up so tight you could burst at any moment, they're going to find reprieve in people like Donald
Trump and people on the right who are just like, bro, I don't care what you call me. You can say
gay and you can say retarded. And people are going to be like, I can relax now. I think young people
are going to move in that direction. That's not to mention, I do want to stress this too, because
we didn't get in the Harry Sisson story.
But Harry Sisson, of course, was, according to the left, preying upon young women.
Viciously, this liberal young man, this Democrat, was preying like a merciless predator on these poor young women.
He was a priest.
And right now, there's a story that we covered a while ago, but it's going viral again.
About half of young men, 18 to 25, have never approached a woman or in the last year have not approached a woman. Somewhere around like a third of those guys have never done it and most haven't
done it in a year. Nobody wants to live that way. Nobody wants to live that way. And that's the
world created by woke. Harry Sisson is under fire right now because he was he was sexting a bunch of different women at the same time while claiming he
wasn't. So he was playing these women and a bunch of people on the right are like, don't eat the
player, man. It's what young men do. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. This guy would likely advocate for
you to be imprisoned if you were caught doing these things. He'd say these predators should
should be canceled and banned. And then behind the scenes, he's doing exactly what he claims to not do.
He tweets about, oh, no, the country is abandoning women and women's rights.
And then while he's advocating for these feminist ideals, of course, he is anything but.
People like him create this world young people don't want to live in.
So I think we're going to see a snapback.
And I think that's what
you see with Donald Trump being the first Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years.
Ben and Jerry's firing their CEO is the other side of the Bud Light Hill. We were fighting like
crazy. Bud Light went woke and we said enough. Kid Rock unloaded a full auto machine gun on that
Bud Light and everybody rallied around it, ditched Bud Light to this day.
Surprisingly, yeah, it's maintained. And they've struggled to recover. This was an attack on,
a market attack on this corporation for being woke. Now on the other side of this,
the corporations are abandoning woke intentionally because they see the writing on the wall.
Nobody wants to live in that world. And I think it's going to fade away. But we'll see.
You know, a drowning person is dangerous.
Right?
They say when you're going to go rescue someone drowning, you've got to go behind them.
Otherwise, they'll thrash at you and drag you down with them.
So as the woke gets smothered out of existence, I'm wondering to what degree they may weather underground or worse.
I mean, they already are.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I don't have a sense of the levels of violence that they'll resort to,
but they clearly will resort to violence.
Well, thank goodness we have this massive military where, you know,
Trump is already bringing them back for the border.
And, you know, that's an open question is declaring martial law in some of these cities if things get too violent.
So fundamentally, normally I criticize the massive size of our military.
But in this case, you know, if you want to dance, go for it, fellas.
It is worth noting that, like, during the time that the weather underground was really active, the economy was kind of crap.
The 70s were, you know, a lost decade.
You know, the economy was kind of crap. The 70s were, you know, a lost decade. You know, the economy was garbage.
If Trump's economic plans do work the way that he says they will,
and we have a resurgence of productivity in this country
and we have an economic boom,
a lot of the people that are PO'd and look at the U.S. and say,
capitalism sucks and it's not fair and blah, blah, blah.
They'll have opportunities that they don't have right now.
And that will fix a lot of the problems.
And that goes to what Tim was talking about Gen X or Gen Z.
Gen Z is an almost perfect, you know, copy of Gen X.
Like the entire origin story here, right?
You had the crappy 70s.
You had the crappy all this stuff that happened the last couple of years.
Bidenflation and the COVID and the violence and all this.
And, you know, if we could see Gen Z be like a super version of X.
I think the other key here is that when Reagan won office, the media were savage to him.
I mean, they were just as bad as they are to Trump now.
They compared him to Hitler.
They said he was going to start World War III. Just down the line, he was racist. He hated gays. I mean,
every single one, because they just play that on repeat every single time. How many states did he
win in re-election? 48. Yeah. I think it was 48. Right. So it doesn't work. And I think particularly
when you parrot, you know, having gone through the valley of darkness and then coming out into the light, I think Gen Z may be, I mean, already like Trump was within five points on Gen Z, something like that.
Yeah.
Which is crazy for young people, right?
Traditionally, that's like 20 points.
So I have great hopes for Gen Z.
What do you say?
Five points in what way?
What happened?
In the election, he was within five points in the vote among 20 something.
So he took 45 percent. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you on this.
Seven is Gen Z revolution. It does feel like the 80s.
It feels like they had to suffer through hairspray, big hair, ugly looking makeup and not understanding why they're not attracted to those girls, but being told they're supposed to be.
And then all of a sudden the Internet appears and they're like, whoa, whoa, manipulation.
It's different for them because they had the internet the entire time.
And they were, but so that manipulation has, is just, I mean, the grossness and it stays
with you your entire life when you've been tricked by being told like blackface is okay.
No, blackface is not okay.
Be afraid.
No, no, no.
You deal with that maybe three times.
And then if you see a group of people that aren't into it,
you're with that group.
It's kind of wild that we grew up on jackass.
Yeah.
CKY videos.
Everybody was watching Johnny Knoxville
punch Bam Margera in the balls.
George Carlin was going up on stage in the early 90s.
And he has a bit that he famously did
in his comedy special, in his tours,
where he would say every possible racial slur he could think of as fast as he could and then called two prominent uh black comedians
the n-word and that's one of the best comedians of all time indeed and uh south park and family guy
and we somehow ended up in this world well we're coming out the other side of it so that that's
good yeah i do believe that's why i bring up this term revolution a lot and i i started in 06 2006 it's a revolution of the mind is what i said that's also what chairman
mao said so i'm glad i didn't take the call forward that way but we are in a global revolution
it is a seizure of the mind of the human race right now people are scrambling and trying to
control the system and i think this decentralized motive of of internet has a like allowed us to
actually thrive as a species in a way maybe we've
never done before as human.
Probably the closest
analog is Gutenberg.
The rise of
movable text. So this is back in the
1400s, and the reason is, before
then, you had to have a bunch of monks writing out books
by hand. After Gutenberg,
you could print up 10,000 pamphlets
calling for a peasant revolt.
So you had this fundamental transfer of power from the center with the standing armies to the
people. Traditionally, the people had a hard time organizing, but there were a lot more of them.
They outnumbered the center. And so we then had 200 years of blood. So hopefully we don't actually
get that part of it.
But the point is, I think the Internet is a Gutenberg 2.0.
It's this fundamental shift of power from the center to the edges.
That's why they went straight for the censorship.
That's why it was so important to them.
Yeah, with the Gutenberg press, I think it was Queen Elizabeth instantiated copyright.
That was how it came about.
It didn't exist before.
And they realized, oh, we need to control this tech somehow. That was also
the origins of the postal system.
So the reason for post offices
was to censor. Specifically, you had to intercept
that kind of communication because it
could spread riots or peasant
revolts. So the entire function of the post
office is to read your mail
and then consider arresting you.
And then it's like, when did that get changed?
In theory, when did that supposedly stop?
Maybe it will be someday.
Then you know how to get email, and they were like,
yeah, we're tracking the emails, et cetera, et cetera.
So it's a similar.
Yeah.
Right.
So government created a monopoly.
It would make it illegal for you to pay private people to go carry mail.
Because traditionally, you would just leave your mail with some merchant
who's going from town to town to town right and instead the government came
and said no no you can't do it anymore now you have to use the government version okay which
may be not as nefarious as it seems you know i mean i think that was the intended purpose was
because the government wanted to read your correspondence it's pretty crazy i i'm always
with this balance of order and chaos and like you need a little chaos otherwise the ordered system can become viral like infected and then there's no way to to prevent the
infection because the system's got too much fluidity in it you need corruption to to break
up the infection let's let's let's play this video real quick i don't know how much time we have left
before we go to super chats but uh watch this do we have audio on this? We do. This is Boston Dynamics Atlas Robot.
And I think we predicted this already.
We're a year away from this thing walking around carrying your groceries for you.
Was he heel stomping just then when he ran?
Or was he running on his toes?
Watch this.
Watch.
It is crawling.
That looks like a human, bro.
It's not.
It gets crawling. That looks like an ember. It's not. It gets better.
Shoulder roll.
Jeez.
I'm telling you, it's a year or two, and you're going to see this walking down the street carrying a bag of groceries and pouring a cart.
Oh, jeez.
Well, here we go.
This is crazy.
It's breakdancing.
I said it before.
Ooh, a cartwheel.
I'll say it again.
I am mostly excited about running full speed in a dark alley with a group of others being chased by these robots after the AI apocalyptic takeover
and then being forced to fight them.
I mean, we've said a lot that you can't hold a street
corner with drones, but these
dudes with an M16, you can hold
a street corner with a robot that's
I mean, wouldn't you be holding it? It'd just
be mounted. Isn't it funny that like in
Terminator, we gave them skulls with like
bare teeth, like, or did the robots
do that on purpose? I think they did. Oh, Skynet made that.
They were supposed to look like people and then the robots were like, dispense
with the skin, let's just go after them. Well, look what we're
doing now. It looks more like that
thing from that Ant-Man
movie. Yeah, I mean...
You know what's really creepy?
See the head? That's not the
head. The head's in the chest,
yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah.
So when you meet the animatronic woman and she she looks at you, and she's like, hey, Ian,
and you're looking in her eyes, it's more like looking at an angler fish.
You know, it's got that weird little light on its head.
Yeah.
Attracts the prey.
You're looking into the eyes of the robot, and its head's actually on its chest.
Oh, my God.
And the demon is staring at you, and it's dangling this woman's face in front of you
to convince you to give up everything for it. And these kind of robots, like they're not that far away from being something that you can purchase.
You can buy them now.
Well, I mean like the middle class or middle upper class family could purchase one.
And the only thing that's preventing it now is the AI, right?
So these are all program movements.
$21,000.
That one?
Let me pull up the website.
Robo store?
They just keep getting cheaper.
Well, they're going to.
The point is.
Should we buy one?
Yeah.
I don't know if I want to spend that much money.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's like half of a.
So salary of a employee.
Well, hey, to be fair, if this guy can clean the floors, I mean, he could.
Did you see the video of the Atlas vacuuming?
Yeah.
It's stupid.
Sorry.
I got a Roomba and my cat can ride on it.
I don't need to buy a guy to vacuum for me.
But take a look at this.
Here you go.
They already got them for sale.
Add to cart.
And then that chat GPT, like you're saying, you onboard that intelligence.
Well, they're working on right now.
They're working on agentic AI.
So they're AI that can do specific things.
You don't need a universal or general artificial intelligence to be like a helper around the house.
Right.
You need one that can do a handful of specific things, can navigate the world.
Your house can pick up your
laundry can sweep or mop or whatever can put your dishes away without smashing them can carry things
for you but you don't need to have general 65 000 for the high-end version get it no i don't know
maybe oh yeah you got it like will it fold laundry This is like the one thing that I really wanted to do.
That's the thing.
Once you once you can do a narrow group of specific tasks, once then I can do that and, you know, just just navigate the house.
Then it's like, all right, do you want to spend thirty five thousand dollars on this, which is the cost of a car, but never have to do laundry and chores again.
For parents, especially if you have kids at home, I mean, you're spending two hours plus
per day on various household crap, right?
So if this thing can do the food, the cleaning.
It's like buying a tractor if you're a farmer.
Here's the video.
But yeah, exactly.
I can't imagine the thing's going to be anywhere near as good as the Atlas.
So why would you spend $40,000 on it?
Probably not.
What's the difference?
This is a Chinese company.
Okay.
Well, we've got to buy American.
We can't buy Chinese droids.
Well, I mean, Tesla's making the one right now.
Show me a video of this Optimus.
What can this thing do?
Like, advertise it to me.
It can dance. There's apparently a video of it dancing to Hong Kong. Oh, there thing do? Like advertise it to me. It can dance.
There's apparently a video of it dancing to Hong Kong.
Oh, there you go.
Look at it.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait a minute.
You can remote control this guy?
Yeah.
Joystick?
That's kind of cool.
If you mount a webcam on its face and then you are kind of playing a game through it
of like, clean up my house and you go and you grab the laundry and you use your
controller in your mouse.
This is crazy.
Put the laundry in the bucket.
Press select plus A to shake hands.
You need to make a video game that that is the character you're seeing the
game, the world through.
And it's an actual real life cleaning up the room.
This can't do anything.
This robot can't do anything.
It literally can't do anything.
What I want, you said AGI, you don't need AGI and these things.
I agree.
I think initially they just wanted to do menial tasks.
But I want my Amazon Alexa thing.
Sorry, Alexa, stop if you're hearing me.
But I want that thing to answer my questions.
I want it to be an AI and it's not yet,
which is really weird.
Because I'll talk to it.
It will be soon.
Okay, there.
So you train it.
You put it on a record mode
and then you do some movement and it copies you.
There's no way this is a real one.
Yes.
That was the video that I saw on it.
But that's the general principle they're doing with robots now.
Like Baxter is an industrial robot.
And you do it once.
Baxter watches you and then imitates you.
For an industrial setting or for folding laundry, that's all you have to do.
Yeah.
It just watches you and again this stuff is the
it's a couple years away from being able to be you know put out for people to actually use and
be functional but once it is the market is going to explode because everybody wants again it's one
of those things where like if you're you know i mean mean, there are multiple millions of families in the U.S. that could afford $20,000, which boils, $20,000 to $30,000, which boils down to $750 a month for, you know, 36 months.
Yeah.
You know, because they'll be just like cars.
You'll finance it.
Banks will love it.
So, like, there's a bunch of companies.
This one's $100,000.
Check out the video of this one going through the
forest it's absolutely insane they might not have it here you can probably find on people you got
to realize this if you're concerned about privacy how scary would it be to be chased by that you
don't have a cell phone yo check it out see this video where it's like spinning around now imagine
if it had razor blades on the inside of its wheels, and when it goes up on two legs, it starts spinning around,
its arms goes out, and just starts spinning towards you.
Which it could do.
Yeah.
People put these in their houses, and I love it.
I'm fascinated.
I love tech.
But, like, say, like, 80 million people had one of these in their houses,
and they were controlled by some central authority.
Bro, you're going to see these driving down the street.
It's going to pull up to a Food Lion, a Shop and Save, an Albertsons, whatever you got
by you.
And then they're going to walk over and they're going to put the bag of groceries on top of
it.
And then it's going to start walking to your house.
Yeah.
Technically, it doesn't even have to go to the checkout line.
They already have these.
They already have those robots for deliveries.
It'll scan and charge each item as it picks it up.
So it won't, it'll be able to.
Amazon will fly you a Coca-Cola if you want it.
Have you seen the videos where they have those little
googly-eyed boxes that deliver food
in San Francisco or whatever? Yeah. And the homeless
people attack them? Yeah. There's gonna be
like a humanoid robot carrying a
bag like this, you know, just like marching all stupid,
and then some homeless guy's gonna walk up to it
and try and shove it, and it's gonna go,
I am legally authorized to defend myself.
And then... And the razor blades pop out of its elbows, and the guy's like, it and try and shove it and it's going to go i am legally authorized to defend myself and then and
the razor blades pop out of its of its elbows and guys like robocop what is the what do this is
crazy because what does a robot do right now we're already having this problem where these delivery
robots are being vandalized and looted and robbed amazon drivers and you can't do anything about it
because the person will come up bring a mask break it open steal the food and leave and then knock it
over and there's a camera of it but what what are you going to do? You can't prove
that guy was. Are we then going to live in a society where there are robots all moving around?
And how do we track who committed the crime against the robot? And will robots have some
degree of possession protections in law authorized to protect the property of.
Yeah.
I think they need to fly.
That's one way.
In West Virginia,
I believe West Virginia and Texas allow the use of lethal force
to defend property.
I think Texas specifically.
So depending on the property,
if there's like a guy walking
and he's got, you know,
a $50,000 gigantic diamond
and someone tries to take it,
then what?
Does the robot like judo chop yeah my first
thought was it would run that would be it would be programmed to run if someone attacks it it runs
but that could damage the the goods that it's carrying so running or flying flying would help
avoid a lot of vandalism but getting these heavy ass things up into the air is going to require a
lot of propellant here's another one this is the same is going to require a lot of propellant. Here's another one. This is the same. It's a $100,000 version of the same thing.
In stock, I can click add to cart for only $100,000.
You could also notice the period and the comma.
What is this, Europe?
Get out of here.
Oh, wait, here's a video.
Look at this.
That's old.
That's garbage, man.
He's not trying very hard to kick it.
Look at, yeah.
Oh, that was not bad.
I mean, I... The Boston Dynamics one moved compared to this
Of course can you buy that one
I don't know
I think Boston Dynamics is doing for military
Probably better money
Probably
What's with the really awful music
I don't know that was cheap
All this thing is doing is walking around
What do I need it for
Why am I going to spend $100,000 to have a fake guy walk around?
Yeah, I want to see some...
You know, I got to be honest.
I'm surprised Mr. Beast hasn't bought like 100 of these and then fought them.
That'd be cool.
Look, Mr. Beast, if you made a video where you bought 100,
not the 100 grand ones, the $20,000 ones maybe,
and we bought 100 of them, that's a lot of money.
And then donate like $1,000 charity for every robot you can defeat.
Bro, bro, Mr. Beast, you're the only one who can do this.
Okay, buy 100 of them and then get you and your buddies and get swords, katanas, and then just start mowing them down.
You get like full auto.
And if it's your property and it's on your land where it's legal.
Not too quick.
You got to fight them.
You got to melee.
Hand to hand.
Just get some.
Oh, come on, bro.
Human. too quick you got to fight them you got a melee hand to hand like just get some oh come on bro like human if you're if you're buying these things are just shooting them in in your range or
something or on set you might just throw them in the garbage i don't need to move around it starts
running towards you dodging your bullets and you're like oh my god i went to um uh defcon the
hacker convention and they have this shooting range in the mojave desert they set up every year
and guys come out with belt-fed full auto.
It's crazy.
And I had a drone that was fairly busted but still flew.
And I was like, all right, guys, here's your target.
Have fun.
And they flew it in the air with targets on it, and we're shooting at it.
It was amazing.
I got to say, guys, but it was below the backstop, okay?
Nobody was aiming up.
You made a really good question.
You had a really good question about what are we going to do when people start vandalizing the robots carrying groceries because we're firstly we're gonna
have to legislate you're not allowed it's like someone's car if you go up to someone's car and
you attack it on the street you're liable for prison you know you're gonna get arrested on the
spot same with these robots and the robots will be able to track robots yeah i guess so fortunately
the robots won't be afraid so they're not going to do something stupid.
They're going to do what they're programmed to do.
$1,000?
I don't know what this is.
Biped base?
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All right, I'm not your buddy guy says, I'm not worried.
I now worry the left has gone too far off the reservation.
And whether we like it or not, this will end in either a civil war or purge across the West.
Yes, I don't want to be too negative, though, because it does kind of feel like maybe this is the back end of the conflict.
The civil rights era was a civil strife period that didn't end in civil war.
So don't know for sure, but maybe.
It's scary out there.
All right.
Mini Matt Rumble Rant says 2016 voted for trump 2020 voted
for trump 2024 voted for trump 2028 can't wait to vote for trump that's funny we didn't talk
about the bannon story steve bannon yeah but it's just bannon saying it yeah it is i don't mean
anything i don't think provocateur yeah trump's gonna be so old trump's ready man he's doing what
he's doing ko 7776 says tim Tim, you are wrong on Harry Sisson.
Allegations are fake news. No one believes
that kid is straight.
Oh, that's funny.
That's the question, yeah, is whether they
paid the women to make up the allocation.
I just think he's
what is he, 22?
Yeah, I think so. And he's got a bunch of followers
and he's going to try and maggot as many women
as possible. The problem is publicly he gains followers by pretending to be this, like, progressive feminist kind of guy.
So, you know, live by the sword.
Have fun.
What have we here?
All right.
Super Mercer Bro says, can you make a remake of I Just Want to Live from Baldur's Gate?
I'll rumble rant $10 every day if you can alfira's song is awesome i'm i don't know those songs i don't know this is balder's gate three i imagine i guess because
the balder's gate's the first one balder's gate three is one of the best games ever made dude
all the balder's gates are mind-blowing the second one throne of ball expansion dude it's just the
graphics aren't yeah but it's real time isn't't up. Yeah, but it's real-time, isn't it?
No, it's paused.
Well, it's real-time,
and you pause it,
and then issue orders,
and then unpause it,
and everything happens,
and then you pause it,
and then reissue stuff.
Osgate 3 is better,
because it's turn-based.
It's like a stop-start fluid.
It's cool.
It's similar.
It's very similar.
Okay, the 138 says,
Kimmel, Fallon, Colbert, Marr
are plagiarizing Goebbels.
Oof.
Oof.
Heavens me.
Scrapjazz says, great show with Sinoski.
I know you don't take pitches, but maybe you'd like to fund someone else's work.
Bank Jap getaway turns monster flick.
Interesting.
We do have a bunch of plans for the community in the Discord.
So what we do with Boonies HQ, which is our skate company, is every month we do the Booneys Bounties where we post.
This month's trick is for March it was a board slide.
Submit your videos of the best board slide.
There's a list of legal rules.
And then our Discord for the BooneysHQ.com votes on who they think deserves to win the prize of $200.
We wanted to do for the TimCast Discord a cultural prize every month of $10,000.
So if you are working on a cultural project, maybe you've got a song and you're like, I need to record the next five or whatever.
Maybe you've got a comic book.
Maybe you made a sculpture.
Who knows?
Everybody submits and the Discord community votes and then the winner gets $10,000.
The problem is that that amount of money, it becomes extremely difficult legally.
And so we're working out the legal process for it right now,
but hopefully we can do that.
Cause that's a cool way to,
to eventually angel invest in a bunch of projects,
not literally invested,
which basically,
but here's a gift to have fun.
But I think it would be considered a sweepstakes or something.
So through a charity,
would you set up a charity to issue funds out?
No,
I think that'd be even more complicated so because the discord server and our members at timcast.com
are voting on who's going to get the money they ultimately decide it's going to come from timcast
but uh what i can say is we have we are we are booking about one about a month and a half away
from the first culture war live where u.. members will sit down in the chair and engage
in the debate. So we like I like how Jubilee does these big public debates, but they're edited. So
it's fake. Like when Eliezer Perez was here, he was mentioning that the pauses in Sam Cedar's
answers were longer and he was having he was having trouble with it. And they edited those
out to make it seem like he was answering more quickly. Well, I'm going to tell you when you
come to the culture war event, I'm going to tell you, when you come to the Culture War event,
I'm going to convince you live, face-to-face, that you can control the weather.
Okay, just make sure it's very nice out.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I threw it the other night.
It started hailing.
I was outside.
I heard it coming in lightning thunder.
It started hailing.
And I was like, uh-oh.
Because I was calling the rain.
I wanted it, the moisture.
It was hitting me.
And I was like, this could cause damage. So I focused warmth.
So you made the hail cone? And then I got splashed by this super cold water. And I was like, it's
working. And I was getting hit by cold, but focusing warmth in and then it just melted away.
You made the hail come because you were calling for rain? Well, I went outside after an intense
communication and the lightning and thunder was bringing the stuff. And I was-
Were you calling for rain? Once I saw it, I was getting excited for it. Yeah.
Okay. No, no, no. And I heard it coming across the forest.
Before the rain came, did you will for it to come?
No, negative.
I stepped out into the lightning.
Okay.
And then I just went with it.
I was excited for it when I saw the lightning.
So you encouraged it?
Yeah.
And then it was hail, and I was like, oops.
So that was your fault?
Okay, well, I'm going to invoice you.
Maybe I was complicit.
I'm going to invoice you for the damage to my car because...
You got damaged by the hail?
Because of the hail damage.
So if you did it...
Well, I melted it.
After about eight seconds, it melted.
And that was just a cold rain.
No, the hail was not that bad.
Dude, it was wild.
It was like a sheet of ice just came down for like eight seconds.
And then it just turned into super cold water.
All right.
Andre says, re-robots, what happens if he tries using the stairs and trips and kills you on the way down?
Bad luck, man.
Yeah, I guess it's like if a washing machine fell over on you or something.
I don't know.
Your fridge tipped over and landed on you.
People would be like, accident.
What happens if you get into a car accident?
One of the big questions in AI that's been around for years is right now you're driving.
I think we talked about this in the Green Room show.
Right now you're driving a car.
A little kid runs out in the middle room show right now. You're driving a car.
A little kid runs out in the middle of the street.
You have a choice.
You can swerve to the left and crash and you might die, or you can just keep going and kick it's it.
Well,
most people would swerve and crash.
That's a heat of the moment thing,
you know,
to do.
And I'll say there's two kids that run out in the middle of the street.
And no matter which direction you go,
one of them is getting hit.
You choose.
Well,
for most people,
it's like I had,
I,
I slammed the brakes on. I tried to dodge them both, but someone got hit. You choose. Well, for most people, it's like, I slammed the brakes on, I
tried to dodge them both, but someone got hit.
You chose whether to swerve or not.
It's a trolley problem, right? The problem
with AI cars like Waymo
or whatever, is it called Waymo? Is that what it's called? Yes.
Is that someone has to program how
it will respond. Does it protect
the passenger slash driver
or the pedestrian?
In the event there are two pedestrians,
how does it choose between the two which ones to hit? Should it maintain its course or swerve out
of the way, potentially risking other people's lives? Those choices have to be made in advance.
Someone's going to be liable. So the car's going to be driving. Old lady's going to come out.
The auto car is going to swerve to the left of Dodger, slam headfirst into another car, killing the other driver.
And the family of that driver is going to say, you programmed the car to go off the road.
It's your fault.
Because that takes a lot of the responsibility off the driver, like to the point where you might even be like not responsible for any accidents that your car gets into while you're in it because you're not driving it. And then all of the responsibility goes on to the company that owns the car and develops the algorithm,
which could bankrupt that company really fast.
So it's a tough one.
Donnie Rockets says France can have their statue back.
We're building one far greater than you could ever imagine, much more beautiful, much taller,
and the most amazing crown you've ever seen, a torch you can see from Canada.
Some say the best oh like i've seen an uh an ai version
of this particular uh statue they're proposing you're talking about the statue of liberty
they're talking about the statue of liberty they want to send it back there was some french company
that wanted to it basically looks like caesar augustus standing up before the world and there's
a lion behind him right yeah yeah so i guess that's supposed to
be trump yeah oh you ever see that giant where was it easier in europe where the gigantic god
emperor trump in armor with a sword that was in italy applause i'm pretty sure it was in italy
was it a float an eagle it's funny because like sometimes these liberals will make things like
that thinking it's mocking trump and everyone's like wow that's amazing i was like that's sick
that was the point i made earlier um with with these leftist spray painting swastikas
on Cybertrucks.
I was like, if they think these people are Nazis,
then wouldn't they just be doing them a favor?
And Carl Bencham quoted it,
pointing out what my point was,
that the implication is
the leftists know Tesla owners are not Nazis.
They're doing it to vandalize the car because they know the swastika would offend them.
But I do think there's a perfect sketch there where like a neo-Nazi is in his house listening to like, you know, Nazi Hitler or whatever, rants or whatever.
And then he gets a notification on his phone.
His sentry mode is going off and he runs outside and he sees leftists spray painting swastikas on his Tesla.
And they're like, he's like, what are you doing?
They're like, we're putting a swastika on your Tesla.
And he goes, oh, thank you.
Like, isn't that the implication of what they're doing?
Yeah, that is.
That is.
Like, oh, you'd like this.
Yeah, we're showing you.
And he's like, I actually had a stencil.
I was going to get to it tomorrow, but I appreciate you doing the work for me.
Let's go.
Polly Puree says Ben and Jerry's ice cream is full of chemicals.
Indeed.
Today, Julia had her first Pop-Tart because she's European,
and they don't have Pop-Tarts in Europe because they're illegal.
They're illegal in Europe.
And then we made Pop-Tart ice cream sandwiches.
We took Pop-Tarts and we put ice cream between them.
Ice cream.
Healthy stuff?
The opposite of healthy.
Oh.
The opposite. Who was that with?
Your kid?
No, here.
Oh, I thought you said.
It was out in the skate park.
We got everyone together and we did, Andy had a blueberry one.
Blueberry Pop-Tarts.
Mike did a fudge.
I tried a little bit of the cookies and cream.
I had a half of a brown sugar cinnamon.
Because I can't believe they were doing full...
You know like two Pop-Tarts has like 80 carbs
in it? Okay. And like 400
calories. So I was like, I'll do half.
You should do Stroop's
waffles. You know those? Yeah,
but that's like way more. Oh my god.
Two Stroop waffles with ice cream. Oh, with ice cream
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