Timcast IRL - Dr. Taylor Marshall Uncensored: RFK Jr Says Abortions Should Be COMPLETELY Unregulated

Episode Date: May 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. What up? Welcome to the show. RFK Jr. says abortion should not be regulated by federal or state laws.
Starting point is 00:00:28 He's literally saying, just kill the baby. This is the most extreme thing I've heard from any politician, and I'm assuming Chris Carr must have made a mistake. I cannot imagine, when I read this headline, RFK Jr. suggests abortion should not be regulated by federal or state laws. We shouldn't have government involved. There's a clip, I think, isn't there? Yeah, and he quotes him in the article.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Is this the clip? Because it looks like it got deleted. Okay, here we go. Opportunities for women to make other choices. And sometimes it's just about them knowing and just about the education part of it. It's also about child care. Of course, but the finances always play a role in it. You try to have a heart and not judge.
Starting point is 00:01:10 He says, every abortion is a tragedy. Many of them leave permanent trauma on a woman. Ultimately, I do not trust the government to have jurisdiction over people's bodies. If he's making... Even if it's full term, he replied. Holy fuck. Okay, but where? term even if it's full term he replied whoa holy fuck okay where it's a five minute clip i don't
Starting point is 00:01:29 want to play five minutes of this woman arguing but again i come down to the fact that i don't trust the state and i think we need to trust the woman and i don't think that that's a satisfactory outcome because there's always going to be instances where bad things happen. Yes, we can't prevent that. Either way, there's going to be bad things. So in other words, keeping it as is with Roe v. Wade having been overturned and leaving it up to the states to determine if and when a woman can have an abortion? No, I wouldn't leave it to the
Starting point is 00:02:06 states. Wow. You would say completely it's up to the woman. We should leave it to the woman. We shouldn't have government involved. Even if it's full term? Even if it's full term. This is just leaving it up to
Starting point is 00:02:20 Planned Parenthood. Holy shit! That's going to sink him. That should sink him. That should totally sink him. Yeah, that should sink him. That should totally sink him. If he was a shadow candidate, he's gone. Holy fuck. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 00:02:31 When I saw Chris Carr was working on the story, I was like, oh, look this up. And it seems wild to me. This is also the guy who they say, oh, well, he's actually pulling supporters from Donald Trump. And I know there are pro-life people
Starting point is 00:02:43 who feel like, you know, Donald Trump is not taking a hard enough stance on this, but he is very, very far from the— No, he just pushed them all back over to Trump. Right. And I don't even think he was taking that many, to be honest. But, you know, it's just—it's a bold stance to take. And I think part of it is I wonder how widely this is going to get talked about.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I think people who care about this issue will talk about it. And other people, like the mainstream media, who doesn't want to give RFK more attention than they should and who have pro-abortion voters will try not to talk about this because they don't want anyone to be like, well, that's a good point. I mean, I can speak from the Catholic community. A lot of people say, you know, I like a lot of what RFK says about this. The cherry pick is arguments. But I just can't take on abortion. It's a no-go for me.
Starting point is 00:03:33 This right here is just slamming the door closed for those people. I think I'm pretty sure a lot of, like most Democrats would probably agree with this. Maybe RFK's plan is to force Democrats to be the most extreme imaginable, but this goes beyond.
Starting point is 00:03:50 At the very least, like Democrats are trying to put on this masquerade of, like for the woman's health, for the woman's health. It's all lies. For him to come out and be like, the government should not be involved in any capacity, even at the state level,
Starting point is 00:04:01 even if it's full term. It's like, you're literally just saying kill a baby. Like, look, man, I always tell people like, I'm not pro-life, but like no reasonable person is gonna say, if you want to terminate, I said this to, I think it was Lance in the surfs
Starting point is 00:04:18 when he called me for forced abortion or Bender. Matt Bender. I was like, women can terminate the pregnancy whenever they want. Agreed.ate the pregnancy whenever they want. Agreed. Terminate it whenever they want. And if the baby can survive on its own, you can't kill it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 How about that? How about that compromise? You can't kill the baby if the baby can survive. And they go, no. I'm like, okay, if you wanna, if the woman wants to end the pregnancy,
Starting point is 00:04:40 okay, you think she should be allowed to? Yes. Okay, now what if the baby doesn't have to die oh no the baby should die if the mother mother wants it to that that's their position i'm like what what why because they're they're in the same thing here trust the woman that's what he says but he's you're not talking about abortion anymore talking about just killing babies yes it's funny because at the um that the the when does life begin
Starting point is 00:05:06 argument is democrats you know being like a zygote is not a baby uh you know fertilized embryos are not babies but we're we're well we're past that it's quite literally now the it is a baby it's full term yeah well if she wants to kill it she can kill it i think it's interesting he's kind of going back to the bill clinton era where it's full term yeah well if she wants to kill it she can kill it i think it's interesting he's kind of going back to the bill clinton era where it's sort of like every abortion is a tragedy it's sort of like we you know what was the old thing they said make it uh rare and safe and legal yeah so it's kind of like you know it's not a good and we kind of in the last few years have got the shout your abortion from the housetops like Like, I'm proud. I've had 24 of them.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Do you remember? This is kind of interesting. He went so hardcore, but then he also kind of did the Bill Clinton. It's kind of a tragedy. And he's presenting as like, I'm on the side of women, right? He said, I don't think it's ever okay. I think we should do everything in our power to make sure that that never happens. But I think ultimately nobody sets out to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And there are always some kind of extenuating circumstances that would make a mother made that kind of choice, a terrible, terrible choice. You can't overstate how bad that is. I think- He said mother. Yeah. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I think ultimately we have to trust women. Dude, he has, I think he just blew himself up. I also think this is extending that narrative that every abortion is by like some woman who's extremely impoverished and she's had, you know, whatever and tragedy. And to be like, that's not, you know, maybe in some cases that's who's getting abortion. But a lot of it is just women who don't want to have a kid. And so they elected like this extenuating circumstances thing is mostly a fantasy.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Then here's a law that can be passed that should satisfy Kennedy and anybody else. This law, of course, having nothing to do with existing abortion laws. It would simply state in the event a pregnancy would be terminated, doctors must do everything in their power to make sure the baby survives. That's it.
Starting point is 00:07:02 That's it. So that's not a law saying abortions are allowed or not allowed. It's saying that in the event, a pregnancy must be terminated. And that's entirely up to the doctor. Like Kennedy says, you can't kill the baby. A woman is at eight months and they say, ma'am, if you have this baby, if you care anymore, you're going to die. You're suffering from insert whatever syndrome. And she goes, okay, I guess you have to kill the baby.
Starting point is 00:07:25 The doctor can say, well, we don't have to kill it. We can deliver it now. It's premature through C-section. And she goes, just kill it. Then the law would simply be, we're not going to kill it. It can survive. We're just going to save your life and the baby's. It's fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I got into an argument with a pro-choice friend and the babies. It's fucking nuts. I've argued, I got into an argument with a pro-choice friend, and I was telling her, and it was just an acquaintance, but I was telling her, I was like, look, and this was before Ro got overturned,
Starting point is 00:07:55 I was like, look, this thing that people are doing now, this shout your abortion, this being proud of having abortions and stuff, this is going to come back to bite the people on the that are pro abortion that are that are pro-choice in the ass it's going to come back because your average person that is pro-life hears you and hears you celebrating actual death
Starting point is 00:08:21 you are literally a ghoul to these people and she was not hearing it i'm like listen i'm a pro-choice person like i'm i've been pro-choice for a long long time you know first trimester is where is where i draw the line but like i'm like look you're i'm trying to explain it to her and they're just not interested in hearing they were not they were not interested in hearing that it is a bad thing to kill a baby. And that's the thing that I was like, I couldn't get it across to her that that was what she was, that's what they were hearing. That didn't matter what she said. It didn't matter how she brought it. As long as they were doing things like celebrating abortion, you were communicating to pro-life people, I am celebrating the murder of a child.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That's what you're communicating. And they were not hearing it. But I think that's because this got sold as a women's issue right and it was like you have to divorce the the logical consequences of your actions why open that hold on one more why why why does he say like it's uh uh we should trust the mother trust the mother what trust the mother to kill the baby? I guess. I mean, at what point is like, well, if she killed her toddler,
Starting point is 00:09:28 she probably had a good reason. Like that's very dark, but you know, like- That's what he says, right? When did we stop? It seems crazy to me. I mean, if you remember, Teen Vogue put out this article. This is maybe,
Starting point is 00:09:37 I don't think it was 10 years ago, but it was a while ago. And it was like, how to support your friend who has had an abortion. It's like, get her some movies, an ice pack, some en some enamel pins they made this this internet term of a girl's girl like women who support women no matter what they made it this issue of being like well if you judge a woman for getting an abortion you're anti-woman and women are going through enough and we we can't
Starting point is 00:09:58 be against each other because that's what men are for like it's so ridiculous to the point that they are willing to live with this weird psychology of like, hey, this thing was a life and I killed it. And I am expected to pretend like this was always a good idea, that I don't feel any remorse. I don't feel any guilt. And that's why you don't hear women talk about these stories of women who will be like, I had an abortion and I regret it. Like, it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Women are constantly told by society that that accountability is not their concern. Well, and it's it's you shouldn't talk about it because then you are judging other women. Just don't look at the way we. And I think that's also a disservice to women. Women aren't honest. I mean, the same thing with birth control, right? Like if the object from this whole campaign was to make it so women didn't have to have pregnancies they didn't want to. Why didn't Democrats pivot to a then every single woman should have super free access to the pill
Starting point is 00:10:47 and, you know, whatever else. Everyone gets a rod in their arm so they can prevent pregnancy. Because it's actually about this idea that, like, we should be able to terminate life. We should be able to make it so that you don't have a child out there that you're responsible for, that it's not been adopted. Like, it is the deletion of this thing, which is a consequence from sex. And I think that's very weird. If you were trying to prevent pregnancies, why did you not go to the
Starting point is 00:11:09 contraception route? Why do you need abortion to be the issue? So here's the conspiracy is, is it because it undermines the institution of matrimony? If you can have women having free sex every single weekend, you destroy the institution of marriage yeah matrimony is latin for matri mother munis gift the gift of motherhood so if you if you if you have women having free sex all the time they will not marry they might get married when they're like 31 and they're like oh that nice guy he makes a lot of money now but they're not promoting matrimony, which is family, nuclear family, as the core of civilization. And that is what you were talking about in the former segment. That is the revolution.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah. And it's also population. And it's also population. Deep, deep population, whether intentional or otherwise. It's sad, right? I don't like this idea that it's all about destroying things so that you can get what your independence your gratification from your career you know well the destruction is part of the like the whole dialectic stuff they believe that the perfect you're gonna come
Starting point is 00:12:13 through with this did you actually intend for me to get into this or not as soon as i said the word distraction i was like oh i was gonna say this thing but no but it's a good point the point the point destruction is the point, right? Deconstruction is the whole point. The whole leftist project is deconstruction. The pulling apart, dissecting, deconstructing things. And the belief is that the perfected idea of whatever the context is lies at the center. And when you pull back the problems, deconstruct it, you actually will leave the pure essence of whatever the topic is whatever it is that you're dealing with so the only thing that they can do is destroy because that's the whole
Starting point is 00:12:50 the whole project of the left is destruction is destroy is to pull apart the bad things because inside is the good thing communists yes they're everywhere. Did you see that punk song? I'm gonna play it. Oh my god, we talked about it on PCC today. You did? I was dying. So here you go. Put a bullet in a kid's head.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Put a bullet in a kid's head. Think they got a sickness and they're not dressed up straight. But what happens in the closet doesn't matter if you profit from the flag of the USA. You're too fucking old. You do as you're told. You base your life off your nation's scroll. Out there burning weight shades, filling up the dick shades. Tell me, can I still be saved?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Marilyn Manson's way cooler. Brought to you by Disney over here. Did you see that I rewrote the lyrics? Yes, I saw the bit you did with the whole AI lyrics and stuff. I wrote, put a syringe in a kid's leg, think they've got a sickness if they want to dress up gay. Because it's not the people on the right saying the kids are sick.
Starting point is 00:13:54 The people on the right are saying the kids are not sick. They don't need medicine or drugs. Leave them the fuck alone. Let them be kids. And then he says, what happens in the closet doesn't matter if you profit from the flag of the USA, which is meaningless. So I said, profit from the drugs of corporate USA. And then he says, you're too fucking old.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You do as you're told. I don't remember what I wrote for that. I said, you base your life on it. Oh, I said, yeah. What did I say? You're chasing views, filling up on fake news. You base your life on a TikTok scroll. I basically fixed it because his shit makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But this is not punk rock. No, it's institutional. But you know what this is really interesting about this? It is punk rock out of time. 30 years ago, singing these things was anti-establishment and was challenging the the uh modern sensibilities of your average person it was literally going out there and being like i can be different i can be weird we challenge you he's saying the same things in an era where it makes no sense look at it this way that corporate america supports pretty much that whole agenda yeah
Starting point is 00:15:05 it would be like this right imagine someone painted a picture of the great chicago fire and then this guy as a kid stares at that photo and thinks wow what an other picture what an amazing painting then 20 years later he paints the the Chicago fire and goes, I'm making art. And they're like, why are you painting Chicago burning to the ground? It's like, because that's what art's supposed to be. It's like, no, no, no, no. They were literally painting them watching the fire in Chicago. And then you made the same thing 20 years later when Chicago was not burning. Like, that's the point. So all he's doing is it's an echo of what punk once was in this sterile corporate version of it. How sad.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You know, his music is actually not bad. Well, I think, you know, and I am probably the least qualified to talk about music in this room, but I'm going to do it anyways. I think alternative sound like that y'all turn it on sound the sort of early 2000s emo is popular and so they know that somebody is listening to this and so there's someone out there who's like hey man if you just say the woke things in this tone you're gonna blow up i don't know that any of these things are actually going to make people feel inspired to create art but it is going to make someone a lot of money if it's sold correctly. If this dude took this exact same song and he wrote,
Starting point is 00:16:28 put a bullet in a kid's head, want to start a fight, man, we're getting rough and we're fighting at school, that would be like, okay, that was come out in play by the offspring. If he literally said, put a cheese knife on my cheese spread,
Starting point is 00:16:44 put it on my crackers, tell me that, you know, whatever. I'd put it on my playlist. I'd be like, I like the beat. I like the vocal. I like what he's doing with the music. He's putting this shit in it because he's like, please, corporations, pick me. He's a pick me musician. He's a pick me.
Starting point is 00:17:01 He's even got the dress on. There you go. And as a Catholic, I know he's got the dress on. There you go. And as a Catholic, I know he's got the rosary around his. Yeah. Well, because you can dunk on Catholic every day. Yeah, just be a little edgy. Where's his hijab? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Exactly. Exactly. It's like, dude, you're basically screaming Walmart slogan at the TV as if it's like. It's so weird. It's literally the stuff that they had in Target like last summer. Well, that's like the bambi thug that we were talking about the eurovision it's she's the same thing she like kind of did this like witch marilyn manton thing and then her whole message is like lgbt it's funny how those two are always connected i know and then she gets and then she wins and then he's like this is what punk is about no no no no no no the most punk rock thing
Starting point is 00:17:48 would be like a 20 something year old woman being like i can't wait to have my eighth kid or something you know because it spits in the faces of the corporations and the uniparty yeah so we we put out a song called genocide which is like pop rock and punky-ish. And I would never tweet, this is what punk is really about. But the song is just critical of war and the corporate press. It doesn't tell you who to vote for. It doesn't tell you. It's literally just me singing that this country is engaged in warfare and you're being lied to by the press.
Starting point is 00:18:23 That's, to be fair, I would never tweet out, this is punk. But compared to this, it is. This could be a Walmart commercial. No joke. This could literally be on YouTube, like Walmart, get down. For real.
Starting point is 00:18:37 This is like Rage Against the Machine in 2024, where it's like... Excuse me. Rage on behalf of the machine. Yeah, Rage on behalf. It's like you're literally a campaign for corporate America and the Democratic Party and the powers that be. And I can respect being like, yeah, well, you support Trump. And I'm like, yeah, but I didn't write a song where I was like, are you down with MAGA?
Starting point is 00:18:58 You know what I mean? Some people do. And I'm also like, that's certainly not punk rock to do. But the people who are doing that aren't saying, here's certainly not punk rock to do yeah but the people who are doing that aren't saying here's my new punk rock song trump is the best trump like they're not they're not they're saying like i like trump i wrote a song this guy's like this is punk rock to be for the establishment it just again it's giving pick me you have to be like look i'm punk rock i'm punk rock i am yeah you know the punk rock I am? You know what the crazy thing is? It's actually literally, by definition, square. No, but I'm not trying to be mean.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's like, you were a square. You were, like, it was a reference to you being rigid, boring, and normal, and just marching in lockstep. Right. If the gender studies professor at university would be like, wow, I really like your song, you're not edgy. You're very normal. Yeah. There's a, I forgot where I heard this. Someone, I think there really like your song. You're not edgy. You're very normal. Yeah. There's a, I forgot where I heard this. Someone, I think there was like a viral professor. He said,
Starting point is 00:19:50 he raised his hand. He asked his students in high school, how many of you believe that if you were alive during the era of slavery, you would have opposed slavery. They all raised their hands. And he says, okay, now I want you to tell me what thing today you support publicly that everyone hates. Like, right now, at the time, slavery was popular and publicly acceptable. To be opposed to it would have been the fringe position. What do you support? And so certainly if someone says, I support Trump and always have, I'd believe him. I'd be like, yeah, this guy probably would have been against slavery because everybody hated Trump supporters, smacked their hats through drinks at him. It was a very unpopular position.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I think there should be an immigration moratorium. Does that make me punk rock now? That's amazing. Yes. Yeah. But I think even Gen Z, like, everybody agrees with you now, too. I don't know, man. People get very defensive about this, because I'm also for reducing legal immigration, at least for a significant amount of time, but I won't try to make myself punk rock. I'm not like this... That's not punk rock. I'm actually for
Starting point is 00:20:57 deporting everyone. Me too. Americans? Gotta go. Out of here. Let's just start over. Native Americans, you deported too. Where to? Don't care. Factory reset. Just nothing but fish. You guys have messed it up. We gotta try again. Let's go to callers.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Alrighty. Let's see who we have here. Spartacus. I am actually Spartacus. Nice to talk to you. How you doing? No, wait. They're all... Oh, unmuted. I guess I thought they were on. Well, I appreciate you guys not talking.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Thank you so much. I got the mute backwards. There you are, Spartacus. Pardon me. You hear me? Yeah, I apologize. No, it's not your fault. That was me.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Question for Dr. Taylor Marshall. Why are these bishops not excommunicating, or at the very least, refusing to give communion to these so-called Catholic politicians, especially like Joe Biden, RFK? Because they support abortion. It's clearly against church teaching and canon law. And why do you think this is? Is it because the higher-ups don't want to cause any problems?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Bishops are scared of backlash? Or are bishops a compromise slash infiltrated here in the States? And what can we do as lay people about it? Because Dom, the great Archbishop Fulton Sheen says, we're the ones who have to make sure the priests are priests, the bishops are bishops, and the religious are religious. And your opinion on the Pope? Oh boy, there's a lot there. So I think towards the end, you said, is there an infiltration? Yes. I think just as a deep state, there's a deep church. As you probably know,
Starting point is 00:22:33 I wrote a book called infiltration and it discuss discusses this whole, a whole theory. I think it's fact now, but yeah, I think the bishops are compromised. I think more and more, they become more like CEOs. They're worried about lawsuits. They're worried about endowments and all that. And I think they look at the landscape in the United States of America and they're like, well, we can't go along outwardly with this agenda. So we'll just ignore it.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And that puts them in a compromised position. So you have guys like Joe Biden and you have RFK Jr. who are basically saying, yeah, kill a baby. And then the next Sunday they go into church and they receive communion. And they're like, I'm a good Catholic Irish boy and all that. And it goes all the way to the Vatican. Straight to the top. Straight to the top.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I mean, it was either last year. Yeah, it was last year when Joe Biden was in the Vatican and he met with the pope. And then when he came out, they asked him, what'd y'all talk about? And he said, I'm a good Catholic and I should keep receiving communion. Like Joe Biden went to Rome. That was a complete photo op. That was completely planned so that he could get that talking point. Cause as soon as he did, I looked it up. It was like immediately 30 of the biggest mainstream, coverages put articles, stories, videos. So this is not just an accident.
Starting point is 00:23:51 This is just not incidental or anecdotal with bishops here and bishops there. I think there is a systematic infiltration. I think it'll eventually get worked out. But I think right now we are at the deepest point of it. And then you asked my position on Pope Francis. I'm probably the most vocally critical conservative practicing Catholic against Pope Francis on my YouTube channel. I talk about it, talk about him all the time and certain things going on. So very critical and praying for him, praying for everyone, praying for the hierarchy.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But I think we're in a big mess. Pope Francis was terrible for you guys. I mean, horrible. I mean, I've met so many people, so many people, including the guy who drove me here, Chris. You know, it's like, man, I like Catholics, I like all this stuff, but like, what's up with your pope? And I have heard that so many times, especially as I'm trying to share my faith with people. I'm like, yeah, I looked into it, but what's up with Pope Francis?
Starting point is 00:24:55 He's like a Marxist or a communist or liberation theology. Yeah, liberation theology. You want to know something wild? In the 2000s, we were graced with the song I write sins not tragedy tragedies by um panic at the disco okay in this song he says uh uh the uh the word god in the song he says the word god it's censored so if you play it on youtube um i forgot what the line is let me pull up the lyrics for it actually right because it's sacrilegious or just because he says the word God? So let's see. Oh, yeah, yeah, open the goddamn door.
Starting point is 00:25:28 That's what he says. I chime in with, haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn door? No. They censored God damned from the song. This is 2005. Because it was offensive. Mm-hmm. and uh what happened at this point in time in this country to where you know it there was a shift from it is offensive to say goddamn in a music video on youtube we have to bleep it yes to now you have a dude sucking the devil's dick yeah on national
Starting point is 00:26:04 television right like that's a huge pendulum swing right there big time yeah what the fuck to now you have a dude sucking the devil's dick on national television. That's a huge pendulum swing right there. Big time. Yeah, what the fuck happened? No, I mean, just this whole year, up into Easter, it was a big controversy. Saying Christ is king is edgy. Like, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:21 How did we get to the point? I was on, I don't know, one of these shows. How is it that we got to the point where was on i was on um uh i don't know one of these shows now how how is it that we got to the point if you say christ is king or christ the king you're you're like i mean talk about being punk rock like that's like getting people canceled or it's controversial or it's anti-semitic it's just it's like a kind of a basic biblical people were saying it was anti-semitic because people would say to a jewish person yeah well christ is king so yeah as if to be like well you know because you don't believe it right and it's like okay but just because some person uses it in a way that it's like what percent of people were using it to be a shut up jew comment you know yeah
Starting point is 00:27:00 i don't know but it's a pretty i'm just i'm... I kind of feel like something happened between 05 and now to where you can see the culture war for Christians especially, but many on the right, they suffered a tremendous defeat without realizing it. I think it was at Obama. I think Obama was the pivot during that time period why like what about no i disagree but go ahead okay i don't it seemed that whatever was the conservative block that was maybe i mean it wasn't strong but whatever had kind of existed since reagan i think it died during obama and there was so much excitement and enthusiasm for hope and change and new and i think that's kind of when christians kind of wanted to be more mainstream and i think yeah i just think whatever we had of a conservativism in america under ob Obama died and it left a big vacuum.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And now we should go to the next caller. I just wanted to throw something in real quick. Are you going to refute it, Phil? No, no, go ahead. Okay. He's going to refute it in the parking lot afterwards. Just throw hands. Spartacus, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Can I do my quick shout out? Yeah, get it. I want to shout out 22 Project project c2 policing new way to do precinct and uh my boy possum love you man hell yeah man right on thanks for calling in cheers brother all righty next up i gotta go look at their name here we got trailer trailer fi how are you this evening i'm doing good yeah you got it right hey do my job cool cool cool so uh yeah thanks for taking my call uh first time caller so you know wish me luck um uh but yeah no so this is for tim um you had mentioned the coffee shop at the top of irl and you know i've heard some rumors like
Starting point is 00:29:01 it's kind of fuzzy so i was just curious if you could talk more about the coffee shop uh in particular there's some to me it's a rumor fuzzy. So I was curious if you could talk more about the coffee shop in particular. There's some to me, it's a rumor. I don't know if it's actually a thing, but like a private members area. Yep, that's true. Oh, it is cool. And then as you being a musician, just to add real quick, what kind of live music situations? So building three stories, top floor will be when we do our shows there.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Ideally, we do that once a month. And that will be members only. Second floor will be the elite members club where you'll have your own key to beep against the door and the door opens for you. And it will be a private club for you to come and go as you please. There will be hours because we have to have staff, but it will be private. First floor will be the coffee shop. We're having permitting issues because of the structure of the building. It's super, super old. And the one thing we ran
Starting point is 00:29:49 into is that despite the fact that the second and third floors are separate from the first floor, there is a technicality that makes it all one floor or something weird. I don't know. And so we have to like build something or something. It's weird. First floor, coffee shop, coffee, mostly that probably deli sandwiches and like pre-made stuff. And then we have to like build something or something. It's weird. First floor, coffee shop, coffee, mostly that, probably deli sandwiches and like pre-made stuff. And then we will have a small stage for light music, not crazy full band stuff, but you know, if like all the remains wanted to do an acoustic set, that'd be possible.
Starting point is 00:30:18 You can get my come down here. Acoustic, maybe drums with brushes and things like that. And comedy, of course. You know, stand-up stuff. And then the idea is the second floor has a side entrance where people who are elite members for TimCast at $100 a month will have their own key cards. And they'll walk up and they'll beep. Door will pop open. You'll walk up the stairs. There's a merch area for guests.
Starting point is 00:30:41 But you walk right past it with your members card and there will be pool table, skee-ball, TVs, video games, drinks. The reason I wanted to do this is because you hang out at Mar-a-Lago. Why become a member at Mar-a-Lago? Because you're going to see big shots there and you can network. And if you've got an idea for a business and you need someone who's got, let's say you, hey, we do coffee, right? We did coffee for two reasons.
Starting point is 00:31:10 One, my family has been in the coffee business before owning a coffee shop. So it's easy. It's in mind for us. We kind of know a decent amount. I have help there. And it's a low cost relative to other businesses to start. Distributing pre-made drinks like cold brew, difficult. You become a member at Mar-a-Lago because eventually you go there and you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:29 hey, you know anybody who does like drink distribution for gas stations or anything like that? They're like, oh yeah, Jim, he's a member. Or Jim's cousin, go meet Jim, he'll be here next week. That's what these clubs are for. It's $50,000 a year at some of these clubs. It's 25, it's 40, 80. So we want to do the same thing, but we want it to be for working people, not the super rich so they can network. And maybe your business is smaller. Maybe you want to organize a rally or a protest
Starting point is 00:31:55 or you want to make a comic book, who knows? So we're going to have our own little club, not super big, but it'll be a third place after work or whatever. You're bored. You want to hang out. You go to the private club. You know, the people who are there are going to be fans of the show. You can watch the show and hang out and meet like-minded people. And that's the general idea.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So we're way behind schedule. We're like a year plus behind schedule. Nothing you can do about welcome to government. But hopefully once the coffee shop is up and running, it'll be, you know, I'm thinking the hours might be till midnight. It might be like 8 a.m. No, midnight or something. And the purpose of the membership said 100 bucks a month. We have to pay people to literally be there, which means like three shifts. And then we have to pay for like drinks and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:41 It'll probably, here's how I imagine it, but it's subject to change because I don't know. You'll probably still have to pay for food and drinks, but it'll be like at cost, right? Because we're not doing this to get rich. We don't think we're going to make millions of dollars off a club. So the base membership helps cover the cost of paying the people to be there. And then you go up there and you say, you know, give me a drink and a sandwich. And it's like $2.40 for the drink and the sandwich. If we do it that way, we have to look at what the laws are. I think we're allowed to have booze because it's private members only.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Like you're allowed to drink at your friend's house. You're allowed to drink at a private club, but we still have to look into like how, what the law, there still might be private club rules for booze and stuff like that. But that is a thing. And yeah, you come bring your guitar and hang out and play guitar and play Magic the Gathering and Yu-Gi-Oh, whatever it is you play. And there'll be video games. It should be fun. It'll be a cool place to be. And then the idea for the once a month shows, the way it will work is elite members, of course, will always have access to the second floor.
Starting point is 00:33:43 There's obviously a capacity. So I don't think we're ever going to hit the capacity. I think it's like 70. It's not the biggest building in the world, but I don't think 70 people will ever be there one time. It'll probably be like, you know, between 10 and 25. And then the most we ever had on the top floor, I think, was like 50, which is just about, you don't want to get too many people. So elite members will be able to come to those shows as well. But you'll have to RSVP that you want to go up to the third floor to watch live and that's the uh that's the
Starting point is 00:34:09 gist of it yeah cool anything else yeah i'm looking forward to all of that that sounds great and the one thing we really have to do is turn the diner that's down the street into um because it's a greasy spoon which one a greasy and into a greasy spoon no no cousin teas so what is it called blue and white yeah they went out of business and it's for sale and i've been talking to you know uh terrence and i'm like that make it a cousin it's a i used to go there semi-regularly when I first moved out to this area and it was really cute. It's not a huge diner. It's super manageable.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I think it would be a good first time restaurant. I think it's for sale for like half a million, ready to go. Like all of the equipment, everything's there. The first time I ever went, I think it was on a Saturday morning and there was like standing room line. I think it's just sort of,
Starting point is 00:35:04 it was on the main street it's walkable it was really cool um i don't know why they closed if it was staffing or something else but i really love diner culture i feel like diners are the best especially like 24-hour diners um i used to be a semi-insomniac writer and i'd like to go at like 3 a.m and sit there and be like haha i'm gonna have great brilliant thoughts here but yeah i don't think it ever happened anything else you want to add before we jump to the next caller? Just a quick shout out
Starting point is 00:35:29 for my own YouTube channel, if that's okay. It's youtube.com at World of Dust. Right on. Thanks for calling in. Nice, mate. Cheers. Thank you. Alright. Next up we got Squirrel Tactics.
Starting point is 00:35:46 How you doing, buddy? Hey, everybody. Hi. My name is after the great Dale Gribble. An American hero, man. My question is, we have had a lot of infighting on the right in terms of creators. Candace Owens, The Daily Wire, The Mediate, rumors with Ben hiring reporters to go after the likes of Charlie Kirk. What? Really? I didn't see that one.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, yeah. I don't know how true it is i've just heard stuff about it um what is it media i said ben shapiro hired reporters so there was a media reporter that allegedly has just started writing a bunch of articles against um candace owens specifically um but also charlie kirk i where i where is this i'm not saying i try googling it i don't i'm not finding it um i've heard it from uh a couple other commentators i i don't want to i have nothing to really support it it's just a story that i have heard so you know feel free to look into it um uh but then also pbd having chris cuomo on and everybody just kind of like getting into a fuss about all these right-wing creators um how can we make a singular like cultural lightning rod that a lot of the people who are not even really into politics but feel
Starting point is 00:37:27 the way that we do can kind of like get behind what do you think it's good you like the fighting well i don't like fighting but i like i like the discussion yeah and i i think it's fascinating to hear about PBD and Cuomo or Candace and Ben because it brings out, I think, some important discussions that maybe have been laying dormant in the right conservative spaces. And so I don't want people to be nasty or violent or whatever. But I think generally it's something that's helpful and we can't like what are we going to do pretend that candace and ben are like buddies and agree or whatever you know i just so i say let it go be be uh be a gentleman or be a lady and be cordial and be educated and well-read and intelligent, but I say, let it go.
Starting point is 00:38:25 It's, I don't, I don't, I don't understand why they're all fighting. Exactly. Like you can understand why I have beef with Jake Shields. He said, quote,
Starting point is 00:38:33 you lie like a Jew. Like, well, that has nothing to do with any of our values or anything like that. And, and X actually deleted that post. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Twitter. Yeah. I said it violated the rules. And then he responded with, we all know, he said that we all, we've all learned over the past six months that one group lies more than others. And I'm like, look. Women.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Sure. Hey, we'll throw hands over this. I'll fight you. It is like you bring up a good point that there's weird infighting going on. It's like, why? I think it's hard. I've been a big fan of you, Tim, since your appearance on Joe Rogan with Jack Dorsey. Like, my whole life.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And like big supporter of all these different creators. I've paid money towards them, paid money towards you since the very beginning. And I just see how like things are just kind of like in a turmoil right now i guess yeah and i'm looking for like a really big cultural like push towards something that is i got it to break past what we have right now. And I look at like kill Tony and what they just did with the roast of Tom Brady. I'm looking at the social blade views for kill Tony and subscribers. It's like I wish my meme stocks were.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I have an idea. I have an idea. So, you know, we've got all of these these conservatives, on the right, that are dejected and they're fractured. And we've got to bring them all together. We've got to unite. And so what if we, you know, got everyone together somewhere. We could probably do it nearby us. There's a few places that are nearby.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And we united the right. We could maybe go to, oh, Charlottesville is nearby. Disavow! Disavow! Disavow! Disavow! Disavow! Disavow! Fed! Tim's a fed, proof right now. We're just trying to unite, bring them together.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Fed! Unite the right. It was funny because it was just a bunch of anti-Semites. Yeah. Disavow. One thing that I really hope you do in your new location and I would literally drive from Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Sorry that you're from Illinois. But I would drive to West Virginia. We have hot dogs, dude. If you guys have like an open mic night. Done. Yeah, of course. Like. Yeah, yeah. just like did that. We will as often as you could.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I mean, especially with any of your franchise locations, like even if I mean, I'm an entrepreneur, so I know like legality and how all that stuff sort of works. So I get it if you can't like make it a public event, but even just private events at any of these other locations, like make it a destination where these people that are outside of these major cities in the suburbs, they can go to a coffee shop on a Saturday night and see an open mic with like a small room of like 25, 30 people just having, having a good time, having some laughs and not worrying about like, uh, you know, being accosted by some liberal and, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:57 having their name Drake through the mud. Well, right on man. That's the plan. Yeah. So, oh, sorry. Sorry. I kind of ranted. Yeah. That's the plan. So oh sorry sorry i kind of ranted yeah that's the plan so uh we're open mic nights an obvious absolutely that's gonna be a lot of fun sing your songs bring
Starting point is 00:42:14 your guitars yeah and then like obviously at the at the shop irl we will be playing and then probably uh you know we'll like fridays might be open mic night or something or you know, like Fridays might be open mic night or something or, you know, I don't know. Maybe Saturdays, actually. Sorry I ran Saturday afternoon. Just a huge fan. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Thanks for calling in. Yep. Take care.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Cheers. All right. We got Fenrir what? Fenrirner 18 how you doing i'm doing fine yourself all right thank you we're doing well my my good to go now yeah yeah what's up man you're on the show how you doing yeah uh that's this is is my first rodeo. So I just wanted to ask the cast, because we've been talking about, there's been a lot of talk about shadow campaigns lately.
Starting point is 00:43:15 There's even that article written. It might just be me, but do any of you guys think it's possible that there maybe isn't one this time. No. Let me finish, because it seems the system's been in crisis management mode for the past few years, and maybe we've reached a crisis they don't know how to handle. Because I keep seeing these articles from the media braying about how a quote unquote Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. So it might just be me, but I wanted to, do you think a shadow campaign would work this time or is there even one to begin with? I agree with Phil. I think there's a 97.3 chance there is a shadow campaign uh yo the shadow
Starting point is 00:44:08 campaign might be something you don't even expect it could be rubio cutting a deal with trump and them saying do you want to go to jail like maybe the whole criminal trial thing is a game of chicken where they're like trump we're gonna lock you up and trump's like the fuck you and like we'll do it and it got to the point where trump's now staring down the veil of lockup. And they're like, let's call a ceasefire. We've already got our wars. So you can do whatever the fuck you want. You come in. You finish your term.
Starting point is 00:44:32 We'll give you what you want. Our wars are already happening. And then when you leave, you know, we see where it goes. That might be the shadow campaign right now. And so, but you got to think about it from Trump's point of view, too. Let's play. Look, the deep state comes to you and says, this country is on the verge of a civil war we don't want that to happen okay we we want there to be no civil war right trump what do you think trump says i don't want a civil war either and they say civil war happens this country
Starting point is 00:45:00 doesn't exist what do you do is trump going to face with something where it's like either we come to an agreement or the country blows the fuck up i feel like trump any person would say what's the deal how do we navigate through this deal all right deal yep and then trump of course makes the big ask being like i want hillary in jail joe's in jail we're like okay okay oh okay how about we've already got our wars biden clearly can't handle this the anti-israel stuff's a problem we want israel trump you like israel okay how about this you get your maga stuff no jail time yeah and you get pardoned yeah no like they would just say the cases against you go away the charges are dropped dissolved you win your name is cleared but you don't go after anybody
Starting point is 00:45:51 else how does that sound the country we we stop the fighting we stop the the the war against each other no civil war we do everything to avert it we work together i think trump would say yes what do you think true i i mean i was in catholics for trump very minor peripheral part of the trump campaign and i've i realized trump is in favor of trump yep and everyone who is hardcore trump rises to the top light cream like that's really all he cares about are you 110 on the trump train and if you are you're in and that's that's the main criteria so i think given some kind of a deal like that because he i mean i've read the art of the deal that's how he thinks yeah he's willing to sacrifice some of his wants in order to get a deal through so yeah if what you just said
Starting point is 00:46:45 is real and does happen that could be the shadow campaign it could be they went to trump and said we'd rather lose 60 percent than lose 100 that's a deal what's what's what's what's better zero dollars or you know would you rather lose? Actually, this is a poker lesson for everybody. So I'm playing poker with the boys. This was last year's Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:47:11 not this year, but last year's. And I think it was Dane. I think it was Dane, actually, who's been improving his game. And he got pocket jacks. Do you know anything
Starting point is 00:47:19 about poker? No. Pocket jacks, I believe it's the fourth best hand in poker. Tough, though, because the only, so, though, because everyone gets two cards. Someone's got ace-king. There's no pair there.
Starting point is 00:47:30 A pair beats any single high card. And so what happens with most players in poker is you'll get pocket jacks. Fuck. It's good, but, man, is it tough. They win like 67% of the time. And then you say, okay, I got a really good starting hand, so I'm going to bet $20. Then someone folds, folds, folds.
Starting point is 00:47:54 The next person says, I call your $20. Another guy says, I call your $20. You go, okay, two people have called my bet. What could they have in their hands? I don't know. But if they're going to call $20 in a 1-2 game, I'm imagining it's going to be a wide range of cards from jack-10 suited or offsuit, maybe ace king, maybe ace jack, ace queens, queens, kings. A lot of these premium hands are likely calling
Starting point is 00:48:15 this. Although you could get some loose players, maybe they're doing like six, seven suited or something, or maybe they're weirdos. They're playing eight, three offsuit because they're nuts. You don't know. Flop comes out, the first three cards. You have pocket jacks. What do you see? 2-7-5. Rainbow. That means they're all different suits.
Starting point is 00:48:33 With your jacks, you now have what's called an overpair, meaning your pair of cards beats any one of those cards. So if any of those guys got a seven, all right, but if they have queens, kings Kings or aces in their hand to beat you. So you're in a decent position. Someone could maybe have like, I don't know, six, eight. They wouldn't because they have a straight draw. That's meaningless. And so what happens then is you say, okay, I'm in for 20 bucks. There's 60 on the table. I got a really great hand. Now the flop's fantastic. My hand beats almost all other hands.
Starting point is 00:49:06 The probability is on my side. Pot, 60 bucks. First guy folds. Second guy says, raise all in. And you're like, fuck. Is my hand still good? But let's stop and go back. Let's stop and go back. That's too strong. Let's say he goes, I call your bet. I call your bet. $60. So now you both put in 60. It's 120 plus the 60 in the pot. There's 180. And then the turn card comes out. Ace. If he's got ace king, he beat you. Your hand's worthless. What happens to most players is they refuse to fold because they're like, no, but I have jacks. Jacks are so good. And this guy's going, fuck yes, I hit my ace. So then you bet again, he shoves all in and you go, there's no way he's got it.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And you call and then he flips over ace king and you go, fuck, I lost all my money. The lesson in poker is it's better to lose $5 than 100. So what this lesson usually refers to is if I have, let's say I have queen 10 suited in my hand, it's okay. It's probably at like 55%. It's a good hand. You can get a royal flush with it.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And then I say, okay, I'm going to raise, it's a 1-2 game, I'm going to raise to $10. The next guy just goes 30, snaps, just 30, right on top. Fold. Throw him away. Don't even bother. Maybe with queen-10 suited, you can call, you know, if you're playing really tight. But the point is, many players will be like, I'll call his bet. The pro players will be like, later.
Starting point is 00:50:36 If you were that confident to throw in 30 bucks, you got a top 10 hand. And that means that you're going to have 10, 20% probability above me. I don't have the odds. There's no point in calling. I'd rather lose the $10 I put in right now than put in another 20 and lose even more. Don't send good money after bad. Trump knows it. The machine knows it. A lot of people don't get it. Trump or the deep state, they'd both be willing to sacrifice a large portion of whatever it is they have to keep a little bit of what they have. That's just good business.
Starting point is 00:51:07 If you're facing an enemy who's going to wipe you out, this is why generals surrender. This is why there is surrender. Because you're like, we can all die today, or I can keep the remaining, you know, 25% of what I've gotten resources and use that to, you know, we retreat. We're going to use it somewhere else. Anyway, there you go. Anything else to add to that, man?
Starting point is 00:51:28 Say again? Anything else to add to that, man? Uh, no, the only thing I would say is that they aren't, the, the deep state's not playing for like,
Starting point is 00:51:39 as you say, 25% of their resources. I don't think they'd be willing to lose anything because they are playing for keeps. It's, it's all or nothing for them, that's just that's just me i i disagree i disagree i think okay in in in in all top generals i mean if you had a general in a major war who refused to surrender yeah they get they get crushed. And it's like, I shouldn't say surrender, retreat. Retreat is not failure. Retreat is strategic.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And many mistakes have been made throughout history by commanders and generals who have refused to retreat thinking they can win and then getting crushed. Napoleon. Right. And then you have great generals who retreat a lot and they say, we're not going to win this battlefield for these reasons. We should retreat and keep our remaining forces for a victory tomorrow. If the deep state was a bunch of college grade, college graduate woke morons, which many of them are, but if like the
Starting point is 00:52:38 leadership was, I would agree with you and say, they're going to throw a tantrum and bang on the floor until they lose everything. But no, I think the deep state is going to say this war with Trump is reaching a point where we're going to lose access to all of our resources. We have to we have to have a strategic retreat and then figure out how we regroup later. But anyway, I see. Yeah. Thank you. Nothing. Nothing to shout out.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Just just your I'm just your friendly neighborhood lutheran from the occupied republic of texas all right thanks for calling in texas forever man y'all have a good night cheers man thanks man likewise cheers was that everybody yeah all right dr marshall thanks for hanging out it's great to be here thanks for having me out absolutely and for everybody who's a member of course it's all thanks to you. Really excited for having this member space up and running because then there will be like a physical version of the Discord. So we're back tomorrow. We're going to be talking on the culture war about prepping. It's going to be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I don't know. You want to be there? If you're able? I think I can come in tomorrow. Yeah. I figured guns, survival, building bunkers might be fun. Sounds like fun. Yeah, so not so much a debate, but it'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:53:49 We'll discuss it. Thanks for hanging out. That'll be on Tenant Media, and we'll see you all then.

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