Timcast IRL - Drug Lord & Ex Olympian CAPTURED, FBI Says Ryan Wedding CAUGHT w/ Ruslan KD

Episode Date: January 24, 2026

Phil and Ian are joined by Ruslan KD to discuss drug lord Ryan Wedding being arrested and brought to the US for trial, anti-ICE groups bringing a U-Haul van with shields and gear to a federal building, Tim Walz begging for money from his supporters, and the Department of War admitting they have Directed Energy Weapons and they are scaling them.   Hosts:  Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian Crossland (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Ruslan KD @ruslankd (X)

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Yes, you said it. You said it right. All right, I appreciate you. I've got to be here with you guys. Who are you? What do you do? I'm a YouTuber, podcaster, author, just had a book that was a USA Today.

a bestseller called Godly Ambition. And yeah, I speak, I travel, and I do YouTube. Awesome. Ian's here. Hey, man. What's up, everybody? Ian Crossland in the house. I'm an actor and a musician.

I'm really into this energy weapon thing we might talk about, I think, was that what we picked up as one of the stories. Department of Defense, man. On it. Sean Fragick in the house. Producer Sean here, holding it down for tape brown, and I'm really excited to get the 4D Ian experience today. Also known as the Blue Hoodie.

The Blue Hoodie. It changes to the Polo War in Florida. Can't have the hoodie. His shoes are blue right now. They painted the roofs blue in Maui, I heard, before the directed energy weapons lit that fire. Isn't that how the story was? I don't know. I'm kind of joke.

I don't know if it was directed energy weapons that lit that fire in Maui. But, yeah, there's a lot of blue roofs that were spared from the fire. Did Oprah set the fire? Did Oprah set the fire? I don't know. Can she sue me for asking that question? No, I don't think Oprah said it either. All right.

Let's get right into it. From ABC News, Ryan Wedding, former Olympian-Turn FBI Most Wanted Fugitive, was arrested. Ryan Wedding, the former Olympic snowboarder, investigator, said has been leading a major drug ring, has been arrested, U.S. officials announced on Friday. The 44-year-old Canadian was on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list in connection with the indictments that alleged he's responsible for tracking multi-ton quantities of cocaine from Colombia to Canada and connected with several murders for hire in Canada and Mexico. At my direction, Department of Justice agents and FBI have apprehended yet another member of the

FBI's top 10 most wanted list, Ryan Wedding. The one-time Olympian Snowboarder turned alleged violent cocaine king. The U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said in the next post, Wedding was flown to the United States where he will face justice. Look, I don't, I've just found out about this story. We were doing the culture war earlier. But again, is the DOJ an agency that we can rely on? It seems like they've been putting some effort into doing stuff after a year of,

basically a year of false starts. Excuse me. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think, like, Like, unfortunately, it's just another one of those stories that Cash is not going to get credit for. It's kind of like what we saw at the NBA. Like, they do make moves. They do do do things. I do think a lot of people out there just want to see arrest.

They want to see the people they view as enemies and their oppositions being arrested. And without that, it's like these stories go. Right. But then as a justice maker, you can't just go off of emotions and appease people and give them the bloodthirst. You know, so then you end up looking like the bad guy and your mistakes get blown out of proportion. and your successes go under the radar sometimes when you're doing the right thing. It's the curse, you know, it's a curse of being a good person in life a lot of times. Well, I mean, this guy's alleged to be a drug trafficker.

No, I mean. This isn't about vibes or anything like this. Right. They have a substantial amount of evidence, I suppose. More about when people in the Justice Department are doing what's right and they're not going after people based on emotions, they're doing like legitimate. They might end up looking like the bad guys because they're not satisfying people's blood loss. Are you under the impression or is it your sense that the people in the DOJ are doing things off of emotion? No, no, no, no.

They've been really good about being robotic about stuff. Yeah, what you're saying is they're not trying to appease their base by being emotional and just going after the people that those people want to arrest it. Yeah, I mean, look, the people that most of the people, not everybody, but most of the people that are, that seem to be most wanted by the internet, it is really based off of emotion. They want to see their political enemies or people they deem as as the bad guy. They want to see them wrapped up regardless of whether or not there's enough evidence. And look, if you're going to make the argument, well, they went after Donald Trump and there was, you know, little evidence or they created a situation where Donald Trump was guilty of things or they could say that Donald Trump was guilty of things. I'm right there with you. I totally think that most of the stuff that they went after Donald Trump, actually probably all of the stuff that they went after Donald Trump for was, was.

fabricated or somehow engineered to make it look like it was worse than it was. Like the 34 felonies, like all that stuff was BS. They changed the laws so that way Donald Trump could be indicted on the Gene Carroll stuff. So I'm right there with you. I agree. But that doesn't mean that the right should go or this DOJ, more to the point, should be trying to fabricate stuff to get people. I think that there's enough evidence of actual wrongdoing where they can legitimately

say, look, the people that we're arresting, they're, they're either guilty or we have enough evidence to believe they're guilty of crimes. It's good to look at it. There are enough legit criminals out there. We don't need to fabricate stuff right now. There's a lot of, like, illegal immigration and organizations, NGOs that are tied to those people that they can pull strings on and find out, well, who paid who paid who paid who, and they can go to the top of the top and then they can give it to the executive branch and be like,

maybe they were Mexican cartels. You can have that aspect of it. We'll take care of the domestic aspect of it. Well, I mean, to your point, right? Like, so there's a lot of people that want to see, you know, Antifa wrapped up. They want to see arrests of, you know, Antifa members and stuff. And because what I'm hearing is that they're looking at RICO cases, those kind of cases take a long time to tie together. You can't just say, oh, we think all these people are connected because they all wore black block, you know, or they were in a black block or all they wore black to a protest.

You actually have substantial ties to, for. to make a RICO case stick. And the last thing the DOJ wants to do is arrest people and not have things stick. Because that's not going to make anybody happy either, right? Like if they were to go and arrest a bunch of people and say, well, you guys are all Antifa, right? The DOJ doesn't follow through or they're not able to put people in jail. The people that are up in arms right now, it will only inflame those people. They're only to say, well, we can't trust the government.

We can't trust the judges. So now you'll end up having people starting even. you'll have more people saying that we need to go to extreme measures and we need to take things in our own our own hands and that's not something we want at all yeah i find this interesting that uh this is like the real life ozark this is this is a regular looking dude who seemingly was uh you know a i guess a celebrity within this space and he is a drug lord i know this is crazy stuff now what i also find interesting is that from the outside looking at i would think that anyone who's an olympian and crushing it is not going to need to move cocaine and drugs across state lines. And so I'm curious

how much of this is, hey, you get all this celebrity notoriety clout and your lifestyle increases and now you've got to maintain this status. So then you get into shady stuff or if this dude was always into shady stuff and it's just all amplified as he became more high profile. I mean, I imagine the kind of person that would want to put the effort into becoming an Olympian level snowboarder rate. Like that guy's kind of got to be an adrenaline junkie is that tied to his being in the in the drug

world, being trafficking drugs, is he looking for that high again? Because if you I mean, obviously most of your drug lords or whatever, they're motivated by money. But this guy ostensibly had a lot of fame and money before that. You think he was really rich

prior to this? I was going to say I'd fact check that because as an Olympian. I don't think they're making a lot of money. No, but I mean, I imagine he had sponsorships. He had a lot of notoriety and stuff. So I'm just thinking that like I, again, this is just, you know, I'm just imagining this, but like he's after the adrenaline. And a lot of people that end up in, you know, doing any kind of criminal activity.

A lot of times they're after the high of getting away with it, you know, and the money's nice, obviously, if you're, you're moving that much cocaine, you know, you're making a bowl. lot of money. But like, I'm wondering is, is it, was the motivating factor the money or was the motivating factor like, I'm beat in the law, you know, they can't catch me. I think the adrenaline's part of it. But also, and you saw it with the NBA story is the same thing. It's like, these people have connections. You know, the higher you get, the more famous you become, you are connected to people with money and influence and stuff. And, you know, you start doing a little bit here and there. You have people, you know, you know, the people that have the connections, they want the product. And, you know,

so to your point, Phil, I do think there's a little bit of the adrenaline. But also, he's in the right place, the right time, and he knows the right people. Do they drug test when he was in the Olympics and how long ago did he win this gold medal? Because I'm curious if he was using Coke before. That's why he was really good. You know what I mean? And then, how long ago was this? I'm not sure.

That's a good. That's a good question. You don't even know if you want a medal? No, I don't think he won a medal at all. I think he wasn't always... It's just an Olympian. Yeah. A billion dollars that, you know, CNN says the Attorney General Pam Bondi previously said

Wedding's operation was responsible for more than one billion a year in illegal drug proceeds. Officials have believed wedding to be somewhere in Mexico under the protection of the Sinaloa cartel. Look, a billion dollars, that'll make a lot of money. That'll make people do a lot of crazy things. And I think there's a lot of libertarians out there screaming like this is also why we just need to legalize drugs. I mean, more Olympians. Yeah, no.

So that way the Olympians can get the Coke they mean. You end the black market. You destroy it like overnight, you know, like that's one of those. arguments. I'm not saying I'm not making this argument. I'm just saying I know there's people, this is why they make this argument. As our FBI is going after people constantly like putting their lives at risk over drugs that because they're illegal, there's this black market. As a former libertarian, I personally don't find that argument compelling anymore. And a lot of the reason is not, not that the, the DOJ and the government doesn't spend a lot of money trying to

enforce the drug laws. It's the result. of having drugs very accessible. You look at places like California, basically the whole West Coast, right? Portland, Oregon, Washington State. You can see the homeless population and you can see the absolute havoc that those drugs have wrecked on the homeless population.

There's a lot of people that if they didn't have access to drugs, if they didn't have the ability to shoot up wherever they wanted, or not wherever they, well, basically wherever they want. the street. If they didn't have the ability to do that, they would be, they would be more inclined to do the things necessary to have a house. Like if you can, if you can stay in Southern California, live on the streets where it's, you know, basically always nice. You know, you don't have to worry about getting shelter from the snowstorm. Yeah, you know, you're not going to worry about. Like, if you're in San Diego, like, you get a, you know, you get a nice jacket and even the chilly mornings,

you're fine. And you can shoot up drugs without the police coming and telling you got to move long without having to worry about the government, you know, trying to enforce drug laws on you. There's a lot of allure to that. There's a lot of people that are like, I will choose to do drugs, whereas if you constantly are getting told, you got to go. You can't do that here. You get arrested and thrown in jail and you have to deal with all that stuff that that will make, that does, not just will, but that does make people decide that they don't want to live that lifestyle anymore. Yeah, so thanks for looking that up. Yeah, placing 28th in 2002. 24th, okay, I got 28th here, 2002, which is a long time ago.

Second, I took an oceanography class when I was in high school still, and I live in San Diego. I live in North County. And one of the things that oceanography class talked about in the class was talking about because the climate is so neutral where we live, that there has been documentation. I don't know how much of this is prevalent now, but definitely the 90s and early 2000s where other cities would ship us their homeless people. Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's funny. 24th, so he could have competed in the women's side and then been first. been number one.

But to Phil's point, you know, and I have this discussion with Tate all the time because he's like the youngest crumagion I've ever met. But he argues the same thing. He says, you know, if people don't have access, they won't do it. That's think that's true. Well, I've grown up. I grew up in Chicago, you know, weed was illegal, coke was illegal, all this mushrooms was illegal. Guess what the kids always had, right?

And like what I've kind of seen, like since weed is like one of them where it's been legalized, I've seen people who would normally seek it out are seeking it out less because they can kind of get it anytime and the cool factor is going away. It's like when you tell people they can't have something, it gives it that oomph of like, oh, now I'm really going to go get it because you're telling me I can't have it. But when you tell them they can have, it's kind of like alcohol. It's like, eh. But to that point, like it is like marijuana and heroin are totally different. They have a totally different effect on your body, on your ability to fun. There are plenty of people out there that smoke pot that it doesn't mess up their life, right?

Like I think probably the majority of people that are recreational marijuana users, they'll use, they'll smoke pot and it's not a big deal. It doesn't ruin their life. But there aren't a lot of recreational heroin users, right? If you're taking fentanyl. That was a professor that tried to, they did a whole experiment out of DC that tried to prove that you can use heroin. Micro dose. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no.

Oh, he was shooting up. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah, and his whole point was... Armour that guy? Yeah, his whole point was... Dreadlocks. Yes, black dude with dreadlocks.

Yeah, I am going to show that addiction is more correlated to class and environment. And so I'm going to prove to you that because I have a stable life as a professor and I have a stable income, I'm going to be a functional heroin. I would love to follow up on this guy. I don't want to remember what happened. Oh, God, we got to look this up. Dr. Michael? What was that guy's name? We'll figure it out. No, it's a good question because it's like, it's one of those things where it's like the chicken or the egg.

Is it people are seeking out because it is illegal? Like, this guy? guy's whole billion dollar business wouldn't exist if it was not legal yeah right i think as a i used to hold more of a libertarian view on this so i so i so i understand what you're saying i think as i became a father i'm a father of three now i absolutely want more friction for vices and let than less friction for vices um and i think that to me just makes more sense no let me i'm going to challenge you rizland like when you tell your kids they can't do something what do they want to do my my kids love Jesus and are really good kids, so they usually listen to their father.

I think if the kids trust the parents, because the parents create a really comfortable in the warm and loving environment, they'll listen to them. Because I was told, don't smoke pot or drink alcohol. And now look at you. But I didn't do it until I was 23. I didn't want to do it. I knew it was poisonous. And I thought it was, the problem is when you start to learn about what drug, like drug,

comes from the word meaning dried herb, basically. It's such a vague term for thousands and tens of thousands of chemicals. And it's the hyper addictive ones that you don't want to make legal, because it's, you're Because you just get a little taste. And then it's like you're thinking about it. Like that is crazy dangerous, especially for like people other than the Carl Hart, the doctor that you were talking about earlier. Carl Hart, who wants to.

Well, I would say like alcohol is like one of those things, especially, you know, coming from the Midwest, alcohol is like a big thing out there. And we have a rule of law that says you can't drink unless you're 21, right? And what happens to a lot of kids when they get in the college? Oh, yeah. They end up drinking a ton because they, you know, their parents have told them they can't have it. you can't have it. They get into college where there's access to it.

Then they, they overdose. They, like, literally die from alcohol. I think the second time I drank. I was to say, but Europe treats it differently where Europe's like, hey, you know, they're drinking at 14, 15. The parents are saying, hey, this is how you consume this. This is like, you know, how you should do it.

So by the time they get, you know, to adulthood, they're not like craving it. You know what I mean? And it's not like this cool thing anymore because they were introduced to it. So there is that argument of like, hey, sometimes you got to, you know, you got to show them. You got to, you know what I mean? Like, take the cool factor. Most of the people that are that are using drugs that are living on the streets, like there's usually a correlation between drug use, mental illness,

if you're living on the streets, right? The two things tend to be. The Venn diagram's almost a circle. I assume there are people that can recreationally use just about any drug. I don't think that it's something that we want to say, oh, hey, it's actually okay to use heroin. It's way too easy to overdose. Something like heroin or any other drugs that are like opiates and stuff, you can stop your heart if you use them and stuff.

So I think that granted this guy, Dr. Hart, he did use heroin and it was recreational. And he survived and I don't think that he's on it now anymore. He was on Joe Rogan and talked about his experience. He wrote a book about it. And so that's all well and good. But I don't think that the average heroin user does have that ability. Look, I used to drink a whole ton. I used to drink as much as any other alcoholic that you'd know.

And I just stopped. It wasn't like it wasn't some, it wasn't an actual issue for me to stop. That being said, that isn't the case for most people. You know, if you're, if you're drinking a lot, I like, you know, wake up, get drunk till you pass out, get up again, get drunk. doing that consistently most of the time that ends up killing people

right like you can't like most people can't control I've gone in and out of phases of addiction with weed particularly weed a little bit alcohol but it's like unless there's a purpose if there's a purpose to stop I stop immediately I don't need it I never needed it you know

but if there's no reason to stop I'm like well if I can keep going and keep using this thing and keep succeeding then I don't need to stop it but like if there's like shit hits the fan pardon my like immediately all that stuff's out the window always swearing I'm always swearing.

Poop. Poop hits the fan. What a nasty phrase anyway. I agree. I agree with the way you're saying, but it's like having the access to it to. And I think a lot of these people that are, you know, using heroin and cocaine and all this stuff to an excess would do that with any substance. Like some people use food. Some people do other things.

You know, like whatever it is, they just have something wrong in their life and they're using a substance to kind of fill in those gaps. That's a whole different story. What are you going to say about cocaine in general? I don't know if you guys have much experience I've taken it like five times in my life It's nasty It's so concentrated That's the biggest part

Because I have a coca leaf Where they like in South America They'll put a little Tobacco in like a leaf And they'll stick it off in their lip And they'll just kind of suck on it And you get the buzz But you also get the tobacco

It's nothing like cocaine You've tried the cocoa leaf Because they have like cocoa tea That I think is way less potent to cocaine Because they're adding like gasoline And all kinds of weird stuff to cocaine I remember I went down this rabbit hole with cocaine specifically.

I think the deeper issue is that there's a meaning crisis and a purpose crisis. So when people lack purpose and meaning, they resort to vices. And then, yes, it's probably a degree of genetics where you're more predisposed to being an addict. And so if you're already predisposed to be an addict, but you don't have anything to redirect that to something constructive, productive music, art, building a business, then you can slide into seasons of addiction. See, I think that that's probably the best argument for keeping it illegal. Because there's a lot of people, especially nowadays as we have this crisis of meaning, like people really, without there's, you know, religion is on the rise here in the United States. But I don't think that there's ever been a time in human history where there have been more people that are agnostic or atheist, right? And without that kind of, without family, without the kind of things that religion offers, without the things that community offers, you'll end up with a lot of people that, you know, kind of don't have a lot of meaning.

And I think that if you were to introduce, you know, if you legalize drugs, specifically drugs that are very dangerous for you. I think you end up with more bad results than you do good. Nowadays you see kids, a lot of young guys that are just kind of retreating from society. They're going into playing video games, smoking pot all the time, watching too much porn. And I think you'll only see those kind of behaviors compound if you were to have something like heroin being illegal. Well, I think in California, weed is basically legalized. You've definitely seen spikes of petty crimes, spikes of these sorts of things when you decriminalize something. And I understand, I don't want people going to jail for decades for weed.

Like, that's stupid as well. At the same time, though, when you designtice something, then you're totally right. Then the young person who doesn't quite understand that success and starting a family and building a business and having a stable income and having purpose takes decades and not weeks. What are they going to do? They're going to wake up, smoke weed, play video games, hang out and waste. away their most crucial years of their life, which is 18 to 25, when you should be building the foundation, you're getting stone and playing video games all day. I'm using very broad generality, but there is something to that. And so in California, the weed now...

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genetically. Yeah, they started changing weed over the last couple of 20 years or something, where it's like 29% THC and they strip all the CBD out of the, you know, the leaf or whatever and it's like bro the CBD the cannibinol is like the healing aspect of the plant if you remove that and you just give them the hyperstimulate the psychoactive stimulant of course they're going to have like heart palpitations and and psychic psychotic breaks and shit so like you that's that's that so it's almost like a different plant at that point well this is where I'm going to agree to disagree I don't think that uh taking the access away helps like the people those people are still going to seek that stuff out they're going to find it I

again, I grew up in Chicago, weed was illegal, mushrooms were illegal, cocaine was illegal. Guess what? Everyone still got it. They just had to pay these guys more money like this guy wedding here. The problem was it's just the way it is. Do you remember the DARE program in the 80s? Yeah, it didn't work. Well, what it did was it put weed and heroin and cocaine altogether.

So when you find out weed is like a kind of a gentle, psychoactive plant, and then you're like, whoa, are they lying to me about all these other ones? And then that's the gateway. But if you can educate people about marijuana, the plant, And it's a completely different thing than cocaine and heroin, like opium and all these crazy fentanyl. It's like, dude, this. Yeah, but the Dare project, I think, fundamentally failed because it was literally the nerdiest thing that kids saw to say, hey, get off of drugs. And it was the dorkiest thing.

And guess what the kids saw? They're like, wait a minute, the biggest nerds I know are telling me not to do something, I'm going to want to do it more. Look, I have never done cocaine and never done heroin or anything like that. And I've been around plenty of that stuff in my life touring in a band. You see all basically everything that you could possibly want. I've had offered to me and been around. And I never did. I mean, I can't speak for anyone else.

I can't speak for, you know, what anyone else's life is like. But, you know, just because you're around it doesn't mean that you're going to do it. And again, I think particularly to your point, if you feel like you have a fulfilled life or you have a goal in your life, something that you're after, you're far less likely to do that kind of stuff. Let me just add this. As someone that comes, my mother's an alcoholic, I come from a ton of alcohol abuse. Soviets loved to drink their vodka. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. And I would also say that in my own life, I experienced essay as a kid, and that did a number on me in terms of pornography and all that sort of stuff. The way addiction, the most linear way to fight addiction is twofold. One, you remove it by creating friction,

and two, you replace it with something better. And so I understand, And I understand what you're saying. And I used to believe it. But I think when you remove as a society, we're embracing this thing and we're making it cool and we're making it more potent, the more friction you can create for general people, I actually think the better. But you have to give them something better.

You have to give them something to replace that, meaning, purpose, God, career, something to replace that. And that's the issue. And so for me, if I'm looking at my own struggles and having experienced that, I have to have friction on my phone so I don't access stuff that I shouldn't be looking at. And I'm constantly trying to create friction for the bad things, don't have junk food in the house, don't have snacks in the house, and create easier pathways for the good things.

I got a gym and a tough shed. I got access to the Bible all the time. I have access to accountability and friends. So that's the, I think that's the balance with addiction as a whole. And just my argument is making it legal makes it less cool. Like making it accessible makes it. When it's not accessible and it's rare, that's when it's cool.

I don't agree. I'm not a reverse psychology. I was just like my parents said it was bad. Don't do it. So I believed them. Yeah, I know we got to move on. I don't want to.

We could do this. We don't have to talk about it. We're going to have to talk about it. We're going to jump to this story here from the post millennial. Breaking anti-ice agitators bring U-Haul van with shields and gear to Minneapolis federal building attempt to impede Fed's ICE ERO head. A top ICE official revealed in a Friday press conference that the agitator, have descended upon Minneapolis Whipple Federal Building in an effort to impede immigration

enforcement activities. Marcos Charles, the acting executive associate director of ICE enforcement and removal operations has said, moments ago, a group of agitators, a U-Haul van filled with shields, and gear decided to come over here to the Whipple building and block traffic. They are currently trying to impede us from getting out of the building and going to do our mission. Look, this is not new behavior from basically Antifa, right? Like we saw this during the George Floyd riots.

They were, you would see, you know, a whole Utah, you hall full of gear and stuff. This stuff is coming from somewhere, right? There is someone funding this kind of stuff. Now, whether it be activists or NGOs or what have you, I think this speaks to our conversation earlier about the federal government trying to build RICO cases. Whoever's supplying this stuff, that's who the federal government should be going after,

as well as the people on the ground that are fighting with the feds. I think this is a really bad game of chicken. I think both sides in this, I would love to see some degree of de-escalation. I had Pastor Jack Hibbson, who's friends with the Trump administration, and I asked them specifically about the ICE raids and riots, and I'm going to take a very nuanced position. You guys may hate me for this. I think most people want the criminals out of this country.

I think most people want to get the criminals out. I don't think most people signed up to get the Buellas out, to get the folks that have been here for decades out. And I'm talking about people without criminal records. I'm talking about people without any issues. And so what seems to be happening is there's a sweeping. And according to Pastor Jack Gibbs, it's twofold. One, the people that are getting swept up that don't have criminal records, according to him, are being cut loose.

And people aren't catching wind of that. So they'll sweep up a bunch of illegal immigrants, people that aren't supposed to be here. These people are getting cut loose. They're going back in, but that's never being televised. The second thing is Trump is trying to make this law and order statement. that we're going to go in. And now, according to the sheriffs in Minneapolis, they're pulling over police officers and asking them for papers.

Like, this seems like a bad game of chicken on that side. We're going to escalate the use of force. We're going to look more strong and brave. Why? Because we're trying to send a signal, and we're trying to show who's in charge. That's one side of it. And then you have, to your point,

this weird Antifa, possibly George Soros, whoever's funding this sort of stuff, that's now making it more and more intense and impeding on these actual investigation where I'm seeing people pull up and they're saying, hey, we're here to take out this PDF file. You're impeding on our investigation. And it's like, that's stupid.

And so I just feel like it's this big game of chicken to show who has the biggest balls. And at some point, like, this is all going to hit the fan. And I think we were only seeing a slither of what's possible. When Antifa, you got the Black Panthers out in Philly that got guns on them, it's like, what are we doing? Where is this going? One problem is that it is a game of chicken, but one side is like a drone car. It's like a driverless vehicle. So what is the point?

And by that, I mean, it's foreign entities funding Antifa to overthrow the U.S. government. There's no lose for them. They're going to win if Antifa gets slaughtered. They're going to win if the government gets toppled. So it's a game of chicken with like a robot. Like what are we trying to kill our own right arm? I know other people might have different ideas than that, but I agree with that aspect of it. Like harder is not always better.

Right. Well, I think it's an interesting take. And I'm sure the chat's going nuts right now because I do think the sentiment against the immigration has changed. You know, when you say, oh, we want to go after criminals, obviously everyone agrees with that. But the whole get the abuela out, that actually is where a lot of people are right now because the abuela and the people that are here illegally are taking away opportunities from the younger generation.

You know, they're taking employment opportunities. The boyas are taking employment opportunities from the younger generation? Yeah, so like we're in Florida right now, and I actually had a really good conversation with a couple of guess this week on this. We're in Florida, and there's a lot of construction that's going on out here, and I thought I was going to see kind of more American laborers out here and out here. Guess what? It's all Mexican laborers, right? And, you know, so I was kind of talking to some of the local people about this, and I was kind of surprised about it. But, like, unfortunately, you know, them being in those positions, A, it's like, there's a whole domino effect with, like, how the

economy works and, like, how, you know, the people that employ illegals and low labor immigrants can literally price out the competition. But even beyond that, the positions that they're in are they're taking those away from like the young kids, the 20-year-olds, the 18-year-olds, the 20-year-olds, the people like, these are the jobs where you cut your teeth. You meet the people. You get the networking. You learn the skills.

Like everyone when they're younger, they have to be in these shit jobs. And with the immigrants being in these jobs, those kids don't have that accessibility. They don't have those opportunities. So I think, you know, I could. be wrong, but I think the position on immigration has changed because the younger generation is seeing that these people are taking away the opportunities from them. Yeah, I just don't know if I buy that the abuela and the folks that have been here for generations and generations are taking opportunities from young men.

I don't know if I believe that. And furthermore, didn't Trump have to flip his policy on hospitality, specifically in Florida because he started getting calls saying, hey, we can't, you can't just get all these people out of there. So yeah, yeah, go ahead. To your point, Trump changing his stance on, you know, say, migrant workers or what have you, that's not representative of the base. That's Trump playing to the people that, you know, are employing. The populace. Yeah.

Well, no, not the populace. The base and the populace, like the young Trump voters, they actually are upset with Trump because he's not doing enough, right? The young guys are like, look, we wanted more deep. If you know, there's a there and they're a they're a vocal probably minority of the right. Yeah. But they are growing. They are growing minority. And they're the ones that are going to be, they're the ones that are going to be, you know, looking to be activists or or involved in the, the administration.

I do think that the average person will say, yeah, I think we should probably send illegals out. And I understand you bring up, you know, grandparents and stuff like that. And fair enough. like they're not the high in the list of people to get. And if the Trump administration is cutting people loose, if they don't have like violent criminal records, that's something that the media is not going to cover

because the media wants to see the sensationalism. They want to see the confrontations because it gets clicks. And of course, to Ian's point, there are international entities, NGOs and stuff like that that have a stake in this as well. But I do think that the average Trump voter would say, Yeah, we should send illegals back.

And I do think that... Maybe you're right. I don't know. I would just say optically, like optically and pragmatically, you're not persuading anyone by having ICE pull up on kids, on grandmas, on police officers, and say, show me your papers. So to that point, the, the... If they're confronting, you know, actual police officers and stuff like that, you know, ICE needs to adjust their tactics.

Yes. But I don't think that the optics... of ICE actually doing this really are going to affect whether or not people want to see deportations. Donald Trump, deporting people was like top of Trump's agenda. And when he got elected, approval of deportations was something like 75%. It was a huge number. And so do you think that was more for get the criminals out, get the drug dealers out, get the human traffickers out? Or do you think it was, hey, get the mom out that came here 20 years ago illegally?

No, it was. What's your position on H-1Bs? I would say H-1Bs, if they're undercutting jobs like coders here, I would say I could see how they're unhelpful. It's the same position for the illegals. It's just the working class version of H-1Bs. You're saying this position is the working class. It's the same position. Yeah, maybe right.

Again, I would just say, I think if we're talking about who's deciding the elections, if we're talking about that group in the middle, not the far right, not the far left of that. whatever amount that Trump had to flip, right? I don't think those people are looking at, not, again, not getting the criminals out. Just the optically, I don't think they're looking at this and going. There are people that, so when you look at the previous four years, people knew that the border was basically open, right? They knew that the Biden administration was not doing anything.

They knew that he was letting basically anyone in. And people decided they were like, look, Donald Trump had done, done pretty well prior to the Biden administration. And what the Biden administration did, I mean, legitimately, like estimates are somewhere around 20 million people. And I think the average voter would like, if you ask them in the abstract, right, not specifically, well, this person or these people or this class of people, they would just say, like, yeah, send them back.

You know, they would say send them out. The people that came here. I would agree with you that the 20 million that came over illegally bad, policy, catch and release in America versus catching release in Mexico, terrible terrible. I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about DACA recipients. I'm talking about folks that have been here for decades and decades and decades. So am I.

I would, again, my posts on it, I would say I don't think people are pumped on that. The 20 million, I'm with you. I think that's reasonable. I think there's a huge young Gen Z base that is very conservative that supports MAGA and Trump. And I think they're looking around saying, hey, we don't have any opportunities in these landscaping jobs, the construction jobs, actually do pay very well, they're supposed to at least, and they have good benefits, and they're not available because people that shouldn't be here are in

those positions and were able to pay them less to do the job. Yeah, I guess I would say I don't know how many young people are lining up to do landscaping and construction and are having these opportunities taken from them. This is a Democrat argument. They're not lining up to do those jobs because they're not available. If you pay well for those jobs and you give them good benefits, they will do those jobs. I did those jobs in my 20s. I did those jobs when I was 18. You have to. I was on the roof. I cut the, you know, you cut your teeth. That's how you make networks. That's how you make connections. And you can actually earn a good wage. There's young families. There's guys, you know, 20, 22, whatever, with kids. Like, those are good paying jobs. Even if they're part-time. Like,

they're good supplemental jobs in a lot of cases. I did it. Let me, let me push back some more. How many of you guys familiar with TaskRabbit? I've heard of it, yeah. Okay. So TaskRabbit is an app where you can go on. You can sign up and you can provide skills like assembling IKEA furniture, painting houses, you name it. It's like Dumb Tag.

From plumbing all the way to electrical stuff, right? I know multiple people that are getting on TaskRabbit that are pursuing, I got a buddy of mine. He's a number one guy in New York. He's a comedian. that scene making well over six figures on TaskRabbit owning his labor going direct to consumer and building out an amazing network of people that he keeps going back to whether it's painting whether it's handyman stuff whatever and he owns work in TaskRabbit takes a small percentage

like Uber or Lyft or whatever so I know people are going to like but I want the the construction job that you had 20 years ago and I go or you can get your butt on TaskRabbit and go build that out and actually make more money make 10, 15 grand a month by doing this sort of thing. Here's the problem. Most people are not entrepreneurial, especially at those ages. People want to be in a job where they know it's safe.

They have job security. They can walk in. They can walk in with benefits. They do not want to take the risk of, hey, I'm going to start my own business. They want the pod. They want to be safe and warm in the pod. Most people are like that, right.

Well, I mean, it's a little on the derisive. That's a little derisive there, Ian. That's a little derisive. Well, people want security. And if you're going to say they take security over freedom, No, no, no, you're being duriced. You're job security. Like they want to know their job is there tomorrow.

They want to know their health benefits are going to be there tomorrow. They want to know they have a paycheck next week. They don't want to go out and start a new business. Like that's scary. It's risky. My father was a, he owned his own business for most of my life. And one of the things that when he was about to start the business, one of the things my grandfather said was don't do it. He's like, don't.

You need to get a job. You need to have to, you're going to have to, you're going to have a job next week and the week after and blah, blah. blah. There are people that not that don't want to live in the pod. My grandfather, you know, he was a member of the greatest generation, you know, like he wasn't a guy that was like, oh, you know, I want to want to have this easy life or whatever. He was very familiar with working. But the idea of working for yourself is not appealing to everybody. Correct. Right. Like when when when you have a job that you have to go out and hustle and find the work yourself, that that part of the job becomes a job. Yeah. Right. Finding. the work is also part of doing the work. And there are people that, again, they don't, they don't want to live in the pod. They don't want to eat the bugs. They want job security. That's a big deal. People are sitting around their house and they're waiting to get a job offer from somebody that, a job that they think doesn't exist because grandma is 40, 80 years old. Listen to me for a second. Hear me out. If there are people that are like, I want to be given a job,

I want security. And it's because grandma's nephew is an illegal immigrant, Get Graham. Look, at some point you have to take control of your life. You can't just sit around and wait for the construction job to appear. If you can actually go out and get a job, get a job. Seek it out. That's not the argument, though. Like, unfortunately, the economy that we're in right now, like, you're filling out hundreds

and hundreds of applications and you're doing dozens and dozens of interviews before you're even given a job. The argument here is that because we have illegals in these positions, those opportunities are not even available. But those people are complaining about grandma, abuela. I just want to say, hold on. Like when I was younger, we could literally go in the newspaper, circle a job, call them that day and potentially get the job that day. That doesn't exist anymore. Now it's very competitive.

We're already competing against Americans. Now we're competing against people. Literally you can pay dirt to. There's no opportunity. But the macroeconomic shift is absolutely disrupted everything. So yes, in the 90s and the 80s, you could be in the bell curve and average and buy a home and get married and retire with dignity. that's done. That's been done. Now, what it has is created other ways to make revenue, to make money, to own your labor, to go to direct consumer to different clients. And yes, it may require a little bit more business savvy. But today, you can't be in the average bell curve or the average person. And I think we just need to come, in my opinion, need to come to grips to that and say, you have to be exceptional. And you have to go above and beyond. I would push back on that because there are, there are people that are just not cut out for that. And it's no, that doesn't make them bad.

people it's not that they're a problem there are just people that are not that kind of person because like look but why don't they go to a trade school and become plumbers and and and become welders and make six figures I know multiple plumbers that make six figures but it's not multiple plumbers but it's not even just that uh what phil's saying it's also too you have young families like being entrepreneurial taking on a new business this requires a lot of time a lot of energy and a lot of seed money a lot of times like I don't think it requires seed money when you get on task rabbit respectfully when you have when in order to get like the things that you need like all the things like like the car to get to assemble IKEA furniture to build it up and make 50 bucks an hour you got to go to

different houses right so you need a vehicle to get there you got to show up you got to have tools there's a whole lot of investment that goes into that you're dealing with people with two three kids they don't have the money for that they don't have the time for that they want to show up to a job site and be like hey I'm here to do my job put in my eight nine go home take care of my kids like I understand what you're saying yeah I'm just saying man there's so many opportunities and so much information it's still no for everybody I got buddy of mine he was a stay-at-home dad, didn't feel a lot of dignity in it. I actually interviewed him. People could look this up.

Didn't feel a lot of dignity in it. Found a program at an L.A. Community College that was a program to become one of the guys that climbs the line in the electrical thing. Went through that. Yeah, lineman. Went through the program. Within, I want to say, six months got a job at one of our electric companies. He's now making multiple six figures.

This is a guy without a college education. This is a blue-collar guy. These opportunities are out there. You're going to do way better looking those opportunities out, leveraging the technology, figuring out with that. He's not an entrepreneur. 100%. And so what I'm saying is, though, sitting back and complaining about the Jays, about the immigrants, taking your opportunities, is not going to get you directly to what you actually want. 100%.

But the issue with the scenario that you painted was he's a stay-at-home dad. So that means the wife's working, right? So there's an income. There's money there. He can go to school and not have an impede anything, right? You could go watch my interview with him. You had to figure out child care. It was a really hard sacrifice.

I understand. But when you're young and you have kids, you have a young family, going to school, like now you're spending $50,000, $60,000, even at trade schools. You got to get the books. You got to pay for the classes. You got to go to the classes. You don't have time. You got to make money to feed your kids.

You know what I mean? Debating about whether or not there is an opportunity out there, I think, is actually this has become a different conversation. Is there more opportunity today to make more money today than there was in the 90s? No. Oh, I disagree wholeheartedly. I disagree. There's a million revenue opportunities now.

Yes. Again, entrepreneurial people that can use the internet that can invest in themselves. No, you cannot pick up a newspaper and call a place and get a job the same day anymore. You can start a corporation in 30 minutes. Yeah, you can, that's, again, that you're talking about whether or not there is opportunity versus what basically boils down to people's feelings about immigration. And it's the argument, the argument that some immigration does take jobs. That's just true, right? Whether or not, whether or not you think that that's justification for deporting people.

But the people that, when it comes to actual deportations, it's more than just, oh, an economic factor or job factor. There are people that are like, look, I want to live around people like me. And whether you agree with that or whether you think that's moral or think it's okay to have that opinion, there are a lot of people that are like, look, the people that we're bringing in, the people that are immigrated here, they're actually changing what America is. And so it's a multifaceted topic when it comes to immigration. It's not just an economic. I'll just say it's the H-1B argument for the working class. Think about the H-1B argument. It's literally the same argument.

A lot of people are like sitting at home unemployed right now maybe. And they're like if they really think that if all, like Phil, you've been saying get them all out. And you make a big deal about all of them, including a Buella that's been here for 40 years. Kids think if we get them all out, then the job. jobs will appear. I don't think it fixes anything. That's, and if you create optics like going after old ladies, that's going to incite people to send U-halls of weapons to do to the rioting against it. So to that point, that absolutely isn't going to incisive.

This is why this is escalating is because they're going after everyone. Because it's not true. Bro, they have been hiding the fact that he's letting people out. Okay, Ian, it's not true because if that were the case, then the U-Hauls of weapons wouldn't have been showing up at the George Floyd riots. They had bricks. I mean, they pouts of bricks of the George Floyd riots. The point that I'm making is the U-Hauls of weapons were at the George Floyd riots because those are leftist agitators looking to destabilize the country.

It has nothing to do with the topic. Let me finish. The topic is not the issue. The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. Those people should. Come on. It's the global acceptance of the weapons coming in to the riot is because of the optics.

No. Yeah. That's why people are like, oh, yeah. No. It doesn't matter what the issue is. The issue is always, the issue is never the issue, the issue is the revolution. They're using the topic as a justification for causing unrest. Don't use.

Well, things can be true, though? You don't think there's an optics issue with how ICE is doing it as well as, and I'm granting everything you're saying. I'm not disagreeing with you. I think both things could be true. It's like optically, hey, you guys could be a bit more shrewd and careful and be more surgical with how you're doing stuff. I agree totally. The optics are something they should always think about. Yes.

But the idea that these kind of things are. causing the left to do things. That's not the case at all. They're causing people to. The left is doing things because the left is taking advantage of the situation. So even if ICE was completely benign and they were very gentle about it and say part of the reason actually is because the the Minneapolis police department doesn't turn people over to ice.

And that is part of the plan. The Minneapolis police say, no, we're not going to turn them over. We're a sanctuary city. So ice has to come in. and then the leftists have the opportunity to say, see, look, the, the, the, the, the, the DOJ, Trump's a Nazi, blah, blah, blah. It is not that the left is an effect of this stuff. The left is the cause. Yeah, to Phil's point, to Phil's point, what he's saying is Trump can come out and say the water is blue and the left's going to use that to try and tear on the company or the country.

I completely agree. And to your point, Ian, no, maybe ICE isn't the way. But like, what needs to happen is like the consumer itself. Like we have to look at, you know, when we're hiring landscaping, are they using mostly migrant workers? Maybe we have to pay more to hire the landscaping company that uses all American workers. Maybe we have to buy the product that's made with all American parts.

Like there is something that the consumer can do to push back on this that will then create opportunities in America. You just have to get people to understand like how important their dollar is. You know what I mean? Okay, let me give you guys a practical example. I live in a neighborhood. We need landscaping. We have guys come by all the time.

offering landscaping. They're all either immigrants or sometimes second generation immigrants. I don't know their legal status. We've never had an American come by and offer landscaping services. And they're out there. Not once.

They're out there. And this is, we can build. Do you see my point? Yeah, no, but they're out there. They just cost more. That's the issue. That wasn't the point. The point was the people that are marketing

and hustling that are coming around and saying, hey, we'll do this thing for you. I don't, they don't, they're not Americans. So now again, I'm not saying they're all the legal. That's not my argument. I'm saying the folks that are doing this sort of work generally seem to be Hispanic and laborers and my understand because they know they can price out the competition.

Right. That's it. Like when you don't pay people, it's like why China is where they are economically. So as someone that shares your values, right, I've never even had the opportunity for someone to come door to door and say, hey, I'll do this thing for $1,500 that this guy is going to undercut me for $1,000. But man, I'm an American. Because the Americans know that neighborhood is completely taken up by the companies that are undercutting them.

And that's what I'm just saying. As a consumer, we need to look and seek out those American companies and support American. That is an assumption to think that those neighborhoods are doing that. So if people truly believe what's the point they're all doing it anyway, I'm not going to try. What is that even mean? That's the argument that you just made. They want that underclass. They want the immigrants in here because they know they can pay them less to clean their houses, do their lawns, do it. It's the Democrat argument.

We want the immigrants because we need our underclass. But that's not my argument. My argument is, hey, I'm willing to pay extra for Americans to do work like landscaping. I don't even have that opportunity. That's great. Do you seek them out? They're there. Okay.

All right. Well, listen, we're going to jump to this next story here. You've got to seek the employer out in this economy. Don't wait around to get asked to do a job. We're going to jump to the related story here from the post-millennial. Tim Walls begs for donations to. his legal defense fund after DOJ subpoena over obstructing ICE. Minnesota Governor Tim Walls has started raising money for a legal defense fund after the Department of Justice subpoenaed Walls, Minneapolis, Mayor Jacob Frye and others for allegedly conspiring to impede law enforcement.

This also comes as there has been a massive fallout from a fraud scandal that has plagued Minnesota. In a message sent out to support his wall said Tim Walls here last week, the federal government opened an investigation into me. This comes just weeks after a federal ICE agent fatally shot Renee Good in Minneapolis. Now, that is pretty gross. That fact that he's bringing up Renee Good's death as a way to raise money. Unleashing chaos across our city, rather than taking accountability and working to turn down the temperature, Donald Trump and his administration are fanning the flames by targeting me for demanding transparency and answers. That's not true at all. Let me be clear.

Weaponizing the justice system and threatening political opponents is a dangerous authoritarian tactic, and I won't let it slide. This whole thing is BS. This whole thing is intended to. in flame. If Tim Walz and Jacob Fry really wanted to turn the temperature down, they would have the Minneapolis Police Department actually arrest or turn over illegal aliens when they're arrested and turn them over to ice. But they don't because they're a sanctuary city. They want to have those people there and they want to use this as a means to essentially blame Donald Trump in the administration for being the Gestapo. And now he's trying to raise money off the

death of Renee Good, which wouldn't have happened if they were turning the illegals over to ice. None of this would happen if it wasn't for the fact that Minneapolis is a sanctuary state, or I'm sorry, a sanctuary city. And Tim Walz was not, I mean, I don't know that he's benefiting from the Somali daycare schemes, but he's definitely running interference for it. Yeah. And it's kind of ironic too, because all he has to do is go on Calci and put a ton of

money on when he's going to resign and just resign. And then he'd have millions of dollars. Yeah, right. Was that a brand integration? That was smooth. Yeah. You know, they support us. We love Cal She, but no, there is that.

I don't know if you can bring that up, Surge. But yeah, there's this whole Cal She market. It's up to like $2.5 million or whatever on when he's going to resign. Yeah. If he would just put money down and resign, he doesn't have to beg for money. He could know, he knows better than anyone else if he's going to, when he's going to resign. It's interesting philosophy. If you feel that Tim Walz is involved in inflaming the situation, then in complaining the

situation than complaining that the inflammation is the problem. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, he's as the governor and he's made it clear that, you know, Minnesota is a sanctuary state, you know, and so that means, and what a sanctuary state means is we don't cooperate with the federal government when it comes to deporting. I got to ask you, Ruslan, how do we, I mean, you seem like you see both sides pretty clearly or different directions. You can, you can pivot and see around 360. Like, some people seem to think it just being here makes a criminal. Like you were saying earlier we have to get the criminals out. You were indicating violent criminals like rapists, murders, things like that. But some people do believe if you're here

illegally, you must be out, you must get them out. Other people are like, this is, this area is for those people if they're, if they're peaceful. Like, where's the middle ground? Yeah, I think every person who comes over illegally takes a risk and they know they take a risk. And that's not just folks from South America. I've, you know, I've gotten rides from folks that are here illegally that are here fleeing the war in Russia. that are like Russians and that, you know, I connect with them. I have all kinds of encounters. Every single person understands that there is a risk that you're taking here.

Who should we deport? How should we deport them? Doing it in an orderly way that doesn't cause more chaos. I think that is the deeper conversation that you're pointing to. And I think when you're impeding federal investigations, man, especially when there are criminals, when you do have criminals in custody. So these guys that get picked up by the Minneapolis PD, I'm assuming they didn't just get picked up for being.

They did something to get arrested and then to then not hand them over to ice seems like, again, another game of chicken. Now we're just going to make this thing worse and throw more more fire, more gasoline on a fire. So yes, it's a tricky middle ground. So this is the tension I deal with is like I can embrace someone's dignity as a human and the person I came over here legally to flee the war in Russia. And yet they have kids and wife back home and they're trying to figure out how to get a lawyer. I could have humanity and compassion for that person in the moment while also holding the tension of you shouldn't have done that. I wish you hadn't done that. I wish you would have went through a legal process to figure out a way to get over here or found a sponsor.

That's an interesting position because it's like, let's say Tim's right and there's a civil war here, right? I'm not going to go to Canada. I'm not going to go to another country illegally, knowing that I'm there illegal, lied to the authorities, take advantage of their citizens, take an opportunity from someone else. Like, unfortunately, you have to take care of your own. And, you know, when you're looking at Minnesota, it's funny, the Somali fraud that's going on there is indicative of these people that are coming over him. They're just treating it like their country and they're defrauding us. I mean, it's insane. So it's like, you know, I understand.

You know, it's really nice. You're Christian. You want to, like, see the good in these people and stuff. But they know what they're doing. They've come here illegally and they shouldn't have. So at the end of the day, they should not be here. I agree with you that they shouldn't have. No, no, they should not be here.

If you found out tonight, you were getting drafted to go sent to the front line tomorrow. Would you flee the country? This is a completely different argument. Because that's what some of these people are doing in Russia and in Ukraine. Well, I, well, they're also fleeing from, okay, so like, is our country under threat? If it's just all of a sudden, they're like, frontline warfare is about to break out your drafted report tomorrow. The Russian guys that I met, that was, that was their position, was like, I don't want to go fight Putin's war. This thing is stupid.

This is a great position because. I don't think drafts and ground troops are even a thing anymore. I think, you know, the fact that we have nukes and the weapons that we have, right. The fact of the weapons that we have these days, like truly, if you're fleeing, you're fleeing like a nuclear bomb or whatever. Like, that's a whole different discussion. But, I mean, it's a good question, you know. I think you have to take care of your country. You have to fix your country.

You can't just flee and be like, oh, you know, I'm going to go take advantage of a different country. I don't think you can. But it's like fleeing is different than taking advantage. Like, if you're being drafted to fight a war you don't believe in, And it's like, the casualty rates are astronomical. Like, would you, I would flee. I'm telling you right now. But it's like, Tim,

always says it's like you're breaking into someone else's house. And it's like, that's not your house. It's not your property. It's not your territory. Like if it's, no, granted, the Russians are in a different position than the Ukrainians, right? But in your hypothetical, is it someone invading the United States? Yeah, exactly. So if it's someone invading the United States, I'm going to fight.

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And it's turned into, you know, disgustingly hard trench warfare. And it's awful, right? And I understand why a Russian would be like, I'm getting the hell out of here. It makes sense to me. I understand why Ukrainians are like, no, I'm going to go fight because it's their country. To make that same allegory to the United States is really, really tough. I'll make it this. I'll try and bind the gap.

So if another candidate became president and they were like, yeah, we're escalating in the Ukraine and we're issuing a draft, we're going to send you to Ukraine tomorrow. The United States, the United States would not do it. They wouldn't send them to Vietnam until they did. So if it were Venezuela, let's say Venezuela, they were sending you to the mountains to the jungles. Well, obviously. Would you flee? Would you go somewhere illegally tonight if you're going out,

getting sent to the front line tomorrow? Again, I don't think you can, you can't abandon your own home and you can't break into someone else's house. And it's interesting with the Ruzlan, because you are an immigrant. And typically the people that come here and do everything right and illegally and stuff, they're actually the most upset about illegal immigrants because they have completely cut the line.

You know, they've taken advantage of, you know, the whole process. I mean, how long was your process that you had to go through? It was months in the process. I mean, we came as refugees, so we got asylum status. Fair. So, like, but just imagine those that have to go through years and years of, like, becoming American citizens.

I mean, you know, that is part of the issue with, with that whole situation. Even immigrants hate illegal immigrants. You said you can't abandon your home and you can't break into someone else's house, but you can. And that's what you can. You can. You can. You can.

Arguably, if you're fleeing, you know, a war, maybe it's not so much cowardice as it is. survival. Well, then, look, you have to do it the right way. You have to go through the proper channels in that other country to say, hey, I'm no longer an American. I'm giving up my citizenship. I want to join you now, Russia or China or Canada, where the hell you're going. You know, like you have to do it the right way.

You can't just invade their country. Yeah, often, and I don't want to speak with too much certainty on this, but often, at least the Russians that I know that are coming over, come over, get an attorney and try to go through some sort of legal process. And again, I don't know the particulars, but I know it's, they're not, there's a plan in place because they're like, hey, I want to bring my wife and kid over. Like, I have a whole, you know, play here at some point. There's a lot, and a lot of the illegal immigrants that really, you know, rub people the wrong way, rub Americans the wrong way. They have this, this concept in their

head of they're working here and they're sending money back, right? So as opposed to I'm here and I'm trying to build a better life for me and I'm going to bring my family. Actually, I'm just here to work and I'm going to send money back home. Extract the wealth. Which is, which is wealth extraction. And the Americans have a problem with that. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I agree and I think that's whack and I think, I mean, there's, you know, connection to Somalia, Somalian money being sent over that went on a fund terrorist organization. So I think that's terrible. I think perhaps the broader question, the deeper question is the type of immigrant that's coming over,

are they coming to assimilate to Western values, to Western culture, to learn the language? We came over and we all learned a language. Yeah. Right? And you guys were like, you can't even tell the accent on me. So we came over, we assimilated. We, we, I am an American. through and through, right?

I'm a citizen. But I understand that there are going to be people that come over from cultures that are not congruent with Western values. And typically people like you actually hate the legal immigration more because of how difficult it was for you and your family. And to your point, I think that that's one of the things that most Americans have a problem with. Yes. Like if you come to the United States and you become an American, you leave the old country behind, you assimilate. Like most Americans, the vast majority of Americans are like, that's, That's fine.

Yeah. That's cool. You know, whether or not, you know, there are some people on the far right that are like, no, you know, we don't want to have any immigration or whatever. And even though I have a pretty hardline stance on immigration and on future immigration, the whole point is to get the people that are here, or at least from my perspective, the whole point is to get people to assimilate. Become Americans.

If you become an American and stop thinking of yourself as a member of the culture you came from or the home that you came from and you've actually, you know, internalized our values and you really do believe in the things that make America, the country that it is and have put us in the position globally that we're, that we're in, then I'm fine with it. You know, it doesn't matter. So when I worked at an after school program years and years ago, I, and I've met multiple people like that that have been here since they were babies that are a mayor, you would meet them and you would not know that they were undocumented or whatever. They've been here since they were babies. They, they are American through and through, right?

some of those people, when the DACA thing, was trying to get overturned, we're getting swept up in this. So when I'm talking about folks that have been here 20, 30 years, again, I am not talking about the 12 to 20, 20, 20, million that came over here illegally from who knows where, with what, who knows what agenda. I'm specifically talking about folks that have been here for a while. So when I'm saying abuela, I'm saying she's been here 20, 30, 40 years. That's what I'm talking about. Just because you killed somebody 20 years ago doesn't mean that you shouldn't go to jail. And also, to your point, I think the fact that you are calling them abuela as opposed to grandmas, that that colors the the imagination of people right if you're saying if you're if they're if they're if they're if they're here and they've been here a long time you know and they're still speaking Spanish there are Americans that are like well have they really left the old country behind so I mean at least folks speak English for the record you said if you killed somebody 20 years ago obviously it's murder but if you rob the liquor store 40 years ago I think there's probably a statute of limitations maybe not it depends on armed robbery maybe not but then that becomes a philosophical thing if you assaulted someone 30 years ago it's probably no

longer going to be on your record. Like, like, illegally entering the country is not murder. Right, but you never did any of the time for the crime is the point I'm making. It's like just because you did it 20 years ago doesn't mean you didn't break the law. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, but statute of limitations for certain crimes, they don't haunt you for the rest of your life. Invading in other country is kind of a big crime. Invasion is a specific word. One person coming here, unarmed is not an invasion. But it's not just one person. But we're talking about individuals. If they came with a group, that's another story. They always come with groups. You're not getting the coyotes to bring one person. I mean, they're bringing in, you know, a ton of people at the same time.

And they're treating these people horribly when they do. That's the other thing that's wild, you know, like hearing the Democrats try and defend it, just because they want their underclass and they want cheap labor, it's insane. They're literally defending, like, you know, the abuse of children. But I think they're also defending cultural adaptation that it can't happen over 20 years. Someone can become an American. Yeah. I mean, I just, all I'm saying is there is a big, large, you know,

percentage of the MAGA base that is just done with it. And kind of the Phil's point, he's made this argument on the moratorium of immigration because the immigration process has been, you know, completely taken advantage of for so long and millions of people have come in. It's like, we're full now. You know, we talked about optics a little bit and earlier about the optics of ice. And I think that the thing that upsets people is the optics of, you know, Minnesota's changed their flag. You know, the protests in Southern California recently, where they were waving a Mexican flag. That kind of stuff doesn't endure you to the American people.

And it's really, really bad. So when you see politicians that are siding with the people that are waving foreign flags, you see, again, politicians that will change the state flag to represent a community in there. That doesn't help any. And so. So you understand my position is more pragmatic, though. I'm talking about the folks that voted for Biden, that flipped and voted for Trump, that those folks in the middle

that you need to win an election, whether we want to acknowledge them or not, right? Maga people are always going to be the MAGA people. I think the optics matter to those people. Well, yeah, and the point that I'm making is, you know, Ian was alluding to this being an escalation or you asked me. And so it isn't just that, you know,

one side is, you know, the bad guys in it. Yeah. Neither side wants to give up any ground. And if you've got people in the country that are, you know, waving foreign flags, you're never going to have, even the people that are a little squishy on it, that are, that go back and forth, if they consider themselves Americans, they're not going to say, yeah, those people are the good Americans. And granted, the people that are, that are, you know, DACA recipients or people that have been here for 2030 years, they're not the ones out there protesting, waving foreign flags. But that they're representing the people that whether they like it or not, they're representing the people that are here illegally that are just trying to. to keep their head down and go to work or or what have you. You know, so this, this, you know, the, the escalation on both sides, it's a bad thing for

the DHS to be heavy-handed, but largely to your point earlier, they're letting the guys that are, that are non-violent go. If that's the case, then the problem actually isn't that DHS is too heavy-handed. It's that the way it's being cast in the media. and I would say the left-leaning media, but they're the ones that are trying to. Yes, agree. They're the ones that are inflaming things.

I think in the Walt's case, can we all just agree that he definitely was getting funds from that fraud and he should be arrested? I think at least he was complicit. Yeah. I think he knew what was going on. Yeah. Yeah, I think this dude, he is such a goof,

in my opinion, through and through. People forgotten COVID. Remember when he started that phone line where people could call in and report their neighbors? Yeah. snitching on their neighbors. If they were going outside or having parties or whatever, yeah,

he's a horrible person. There was, there was, you know, they were, they were, they were, they were,

they were, they were, they were, shooting pepper balls at Americans that are, that are just out on their front porches. They were saying, you know, you have to get back in.

They were, the same, the same tactics that the federal government. But they all went to protested, George Floyd. Yeah, you know. Well,

Trump is right. He's retarded. A hundred percent is retarded. Like, listen to the guy and talk. So back, seeing as we're talking about Wall Waltz went on in his statement.

He said, my job is to defend Minnesotans and the rule of law. And I'm sure as hell not backing down. But the road ahead is long, difficult and expensive. If you're with me, please rush a donation to our legal defense fund and help ensure we can keep fighting for accountability, transparency, and justice, he added. Then offering a donation link. So, I mean, look, this whole thing is cooked, right? This is all about Waltz trying to raise money to defend himself against legitimate charges, which I don't. I mean, they haven't come yet.

But I think Waltz and Jacob Frey are going to face charges. I think just the fact that it's, that Minnesota is a sanctuary state is enough, in my opinion. I think that personally, I mean, I'm a little hard line on this as well. If you're a sanctuary state, I think the federal government should shut off all funding. And so you come in full compliance with federal law about immigration. Yeah. And I also think he's raising because he knows other charges are coming that are related to that Somalia. Yeah, I mean, look, if that, if he is in any way, you know, complicit or or.

you know, if he's been taking any money from that or making any money often, I mean, toss the book in him, you know, and I think that everyone's probably in agreement here. I don't know that Ilhan Omar is. I think that her, I think crimes that she may have committed are in totally separate from the Somali. You don't think she knew about the fraud? It's like literally her culture. Yeah, well, no, but where is, where she's a representative, she's the congressional representative from, from Minnesota, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. All right. So maybe she did. So fair enough, you know, I mean, look, if she's been involved in it, then I'm completely fine with throwing the book at all of them. And to be honest with you, any American that hears this, that if they're found to have been fraudulent and taking money, especially in the quantities that you're talking about, I can't imagine how any American could actually say, yeah, they shouldn't be put in jail. I know.

Like, that's the most ridiculous position to take. These people are defrauding the taxpayer. They're inhibiting the federal government from executing laws that were voted on in a bipartisan fashion. There are no new immigration laws. Like nothing's been passed through Congress and, I mean, at all regarding immigration. And so these laws are the same laws that, you know, were in place during Barack Obama's term. The same laws that Hillary Clinton swore up and down that she believed in. I mean, there was, you can go and Google up videos of Barack Obama's term.

Obama talking about illegal immigrants and if you came here illegally you have to go and Hillary Clinton saying if you're here illegally you have to go. So these are these ideas are bipartisan and only now recently in the past few years has it become you know verboten for the Democrats to deport people. Biden was like the first vacant president where he just said yeah come on surged like no other president ever commanded foreigners to surge the border. He said yeah he literally said yeah he searched the border when he was running for president 20 that was a direct quote but I want to clear I want to clear the though, because during a debate with Donald Trump, he said he was like, no, I would say people need to surge the border, literally.

Yeah. Like come over? Yeah. I want to clear the record, though, because a lot of people say Obama was the deporter in chief, but, you know, his numbers are better than Trump's. That's BS. They were deporting people. They were coming right back. No, well, not only that they, like, part of the reason why the numbers were high is because people that would come to the border when they turned them away, they would count those as deportation. Yeah. And they would just come back. That's not quite a. They turn away. Like, Trump has made it clear. 50 more deportations. Yeah, Trump has made it clear. You're not getting it.

I do know someone, I do know someone personally whose dad was deported by Obama. And then he did he come back? No. Oh, okay. No, so he got deported once and then came back, lived and got deported a second time. So he did come back. Yeah. So I'm sorry.

He hasn't, he hasn't been back since. He hasn't been back at that time. Yeah. That's probably because he wouldn't be, you know, able to get in now. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Trump has made it clear. Like the Democrats will say, oh, yeah, we'll get them out, but then they come right back.

And, you know, again, we talked about this the other night. The administration is offering $2,600 to anyone that says, I'm going to get the app for my phone and I'm going to self-deport. Give them $2,600. And that's because that's less money than it takes for ICE to go and round them up. So, like, not only are they, you know, or is the government deporting people and trying to get people to the people that are criminals that are illegals, They're also trying to incentivize people that are here illegally to leave. And they say, look, just leave. And then you can file the paperwork and you can come back.

If you get picked up and found to be here illegally, then you can never come back. Right. You know, it is to be to be completely honest, the effort that the federal government is putting in to deporting people and doing it in a humane way really is above and beyond any other country on earth. Yeah. Like it is, it is the, the federal government is trying so hard. to be gentle with the average, to your point, the people that are here illegally, but that are not criminals.

They're really putting a lot of effort in. And again, I point to the fact that the left is doing everything they can to demonize the administration, demonize the rule of law and say, look, they're trying to hurt people. They're the Gestapo. You hear this all the time. Trump's a Nazi. The ICE agents are Nazis.

They're the Gestapo, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, look, man, they're literally offering people $2,600 to leave and the opportunity. to come back. Like, you're here illegally. We'll give you money to leave so that way you can buy a flight. I think they might even pay for the flight too in addition to the $2,600. Give you some money so you can hire a lawyer or start the paperwork or at least get yourself set up when you're back in the whole country and then you can file the paperwork and still come back. Like you, you, there is no more altruistic country on earth than the United States at all.

It's just not. There's just not at all. The government is being. incredibly generous. And it's still being treated as if they're this monstrous, horrible thing. And it's all because the left wants this discord because it's literally an attack on the United States. I go to foreign. That's what I think about foreign because no president ever was okay with illegal immigration until Biden because he wasn't really the, I mean, technically the paper he was, but he was just signing stuff that they were telling him to say. He was saying stuff they were telling him to say. I mean, the guy was like rolling barely able to walk by the end of his term. And then, and they used, and they used, like Trump's like let's build a wall which was actually in retrospect a pretty cool idea if you're trying to but then some external force seems to have been like we need to we need to make it seem okay because it's their base they want the underclass they want the cheap labor they want yeah again they want their houses cleaned for less money you know what i mean like that it is the

base like the black rock international bank that wants to set up a corporation in the united states no they want the slave workers well those are the workers that yeah that's what they want they want to replace the American working community with slave workers. They probably want America to be a global state. They literally come out and tell you they want a slave class. They tell you this. We're going to jump to this story. And Ian, get ready for it.

The Department of War says, yes, the Department of War has direct energy weapons. Yes, we are scaling them. All right. From the New York Post, the U.S. used powerful mystery weapon that brought Venezuelan soldiers to their knees during Maduro raid, witnesses' account. The U.S. used a powerful mystery weapon that brought Venezuelan soldiers to their knees, bleeding through the nose and vomiting blood during the daring raid to capture dictator Nicholas Maduro, according to a witness account posted Saturday on X by the White House press secretary. In a jaw-dropping interview, the guard described how American forces wiped out hundreds of fighters without losing a single soldier using technology unlike anything he has ever seen or heard. We were on guard, but suddenly all of our radar systems shut down without any explanation, the guard said.

next thing we saw were drones, lots of drones, flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react. Moments later, a handful of helicopters appeared barely eight by his count, deploying what he estimated were just 20 U.S. troops in the area, but those few men, he said, came armed with something far more powerful than guns. They

were technologically very advanced, the guard recalled. They didn't look like anything we fought against before. Look, the guys that are in for Special Forces operational detachment to Delta, those guys have the most state-of-the-art stuff. They have an unlimited budget. They've got night vision with thermal overlays. They can see in the dark like no one

like no like no one else can can imagine they've got the thermal in there. So not only can they see in the dark anything with a heat signature is put in there. They've got they have connectivity between the whole group with these radios that are that are basically networked like that's just the dudes. Never mind the fact all the training that they do. And then the these these directed energy weapons that you're talking about, these kind of things are basically they just debilitate you. I guess they've been tested on like crowd control and it will just make, you know, it makes people very uncomfortable.

It feels like they're burning. But apparently the technology has as advanced to the point where they can shoot them with these weapons and it'll, you know, make people vomit and make people his nosebleet and make you effectively, you know, totally incapacitated. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, they have videos of this. They have like the manliest men from the army or whatever standing out in the field.

And all of a sudden, like, they'll walk into the field. They can't walk any, you know, any further because they have like a space, you know, weapon that's shooting down, beaming down on them. And yeah, it sounds like they're getting better. I guess the question to you, Ian, is where did this technology come from? Where? Yeah. Probably in some lab in China. No, I don't know.

Some underground base in Colorado or something. Okay. Not the donations. It came from Massachusetts, man. It came from MIT. DARPA, like those dues are up there, like tinkering away with lasers. Have you been guys been following Palmer Lucky at all? He runs Anderl.

It's government contracted. No, they're not government contracted. They're just totally private. Yeah, that's the thing that Andrews is doing. They're private and they want to be able to create weapons that the government will purchase, as opposed to the government saying, we want to develop this weapon and then dumping a boatload of money into it because he says that it's a much more efficient way to to produce weapons. If you listen to some of the interviews that he does, he's like, look, the way that we

worked in World War II was we were able to change all of our manufacturing over to making tanks. Well, you know, the Ford plant went from making forwards to making tanks and all of these different companies, this industrial base that we had, made it possible for us to just build weapons super fast. Nowadays, if the United States were to get into a company in, you know, in, you know, the example that he used, if the United States were getting to a conflict with China, we're out of missiles in six days. He's like, there is no way that we can do this. So what Andrew's goal is, he's like, we don't want to be the weapons manufacturer for the government. We want America to be the gun store for the world. And they're looking to build weapons and advanced weapons systems, but he uses existing technology. So instead of saying, oh, we have to have a special circuit board that needs all these things and it has to be built in the special plant, I want something you can go to race.

Radio Shack can buy. And obviously, Radio Shack doesn't really exist. But the point that he was making is, I want to make these weapons out of things that currently exist. So that way, if we get into a conflict, we can say, look, we can build these things right now and we can build 10,000 of them in the next month. Are they kept under secrecy? Or can he just sell those same weapons to China? I don't know the details. I know that he wouldn't. Palmer Lucky's very, very adamant about being an American guy and not. That's part of what the next. The next CEO is what concerns me. Well, I mean,

owns Andrel next. I don't know that, I don't know that. I mean, fair enough, I suppose that that could be an issue. But when it comes to the mission statement of Andrew, like his point is, I want to supply the U.S.

government with the ability to defend the American. So I brought him up because along with other cool tech you're talking about, he said, I think he says that now the troops are networked with their head visors. So if you see an enemy through over there, now all of a sudden he shows up on my screen and I can see him. that's eagle eye and it's not it hasn't been deployed the guys that the stuff that I'm talking about is it's night vision stuff that's been around for a little while and thermal stuff

that's been around for a little while it's just that the ability to integrate the two is is is kind of the and if it is deployed they'll tell us it hasn't been deployed until it's really they find well if it was if it if it if palmer lucky actually had has had sold that to the government I don't think he would have been on Joe Rogan talking about it my argument is that we wouldn't be out of missiles in six days because we have a lot of fat men and and little boys that we still have. Ruzline, what's your position on nuclear war? That's a totally different topic, by the way.

I will say peace through strength seems like a logical pathway in this sort of stuff. So if we all know mutually assured destruction, we'll just all wipe each other out. So I personally am for building up strong governments, building that government, militaries, all these sorts of things, increasing the spending on this, that might be controversial. because I think the more weapons we have, the more the more your enemy is strapped and has ARs, the less likely you are to try and break into a house or pick a fight with it.

Especially the more modern weapons you have. You know, the Russians in 35 or 38 had the most garbage tanks on the planet, which is why the Germans plowed through and then the T-41 was it, the tank they built. But like, what I'm interested, like, to your point, Sean, is lasers. Now, we may run out of missiles in six days, but if we have laser weapons, which apparently we do,

I was so scared that drones were going to destroy the world, that drone warfare, swarm warfare would obliterate humanity, AI on board drone war. Now we have area denial lasers, so you wouldn't even see it, but it'll knock every piece of machinery out of the sky. Are you familiar with what the evolution of drone warfare in the Ukraine war? So when the war started, right,

they were using drones that were remote control, right? They were all wirelessly controlled. If you look now, there's so many drones that are actually run by fiber optic cable. You basically get a spool that's like five, ten kilometers of fiber optic cable. And they send the drones out connected because... Wait, connected to a cable in the sky? Tiny, tiny little film. No, I swear to God.

What? Bring up a picture of the... That's crazy. It reminds me of the race cars when you were a kid. You'd have the wireless cars, then you'd have one with a little string to it. Well, what's happened is now there are, like there are videos that Serge is going to pull it up, but of just a whole landscape

covered in what looks like cobwebs because they have all these drones that had the fiber optic filament. And that's directly because you have jamming devices. So now the idea of drone swarms coming from a ship to mainland

U.S. See, those are, that's kind of like what it looks like. There's so many of them. And that's not even a dramatic representation. I've seen That's like what Jewish people do in New York. so they can like touch things on Saturdays, right? They have a string around. You know, I thought they're going to get through a whole show without bringing up the Jesus.

It all goes back to the jays. This is a thing, right? Can't take in any culture. But the point, the point being, the idea that, you know, the idea that technology is going to end. Yeah, see like that. Like the whole town is just covered. You know, if they, I'll start talking it. Keep going, Phil, if you had more.

Well, the idea that, that, you know, military technology reaches a stopping point. Drones are here, so that means that, you know, nothing's going to be able to be done. You know, people thought the same thing with nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are here. There's never going to be another war again because it's too dangerous. Well, you know, we just actually aren't using them and there's still conventional war that goes on. Are these drones that are attached to wires? They're more resistant to area denial is what is.

Yeah. So they're, they're, the fiber. The truck cable is actually where the controls come from. So you can't jam them because what was happening is you could see pictures and videos of dudes with these big old backpacks with a bunch of antennas on them. They're out at the front and those are jammers so that way the drones couldn't receive signals from the base. The laser weaponry they're talking about actually fries the machinery.

It'll hit the thing. Like the Navy was working on about 10 or 15 years ago on destroyers. I'm picturing like drones coming out of an aircraft. carrier literally in the air like a real aircraft carrier um well it'd be another type of aircraft carrier but it's in the air uh and then it it deploys the drones they come out all with tethers i guess attached maybe well then they might get tangled you'd have to the tethers would have to be able to go through each other it'd have to be a material that could pass through it well that i mean that kind of idea i don't think that's practical personally just because of the fact that like if you have like a mother ship yeah

that's a vulnerability you know a missile would take that down or interceptors you've got you've got you know The F-22 is an extremely capable interceptor. So maybe high orbital motherships or something. I mean, it's possible, I assume. But, you know, at this point, getting that kind of weaponry into the air is difficult. And look, man, an F-15 shot a missile and took out a, this is in the 80s, shot a missile into space and took out a satellite. So even being, you know, in low Earth orbit, high enough to be in orbit. but low enough where you could actually get something

from orbit to the ground without burning up. No, we have those spikes. We have those spikes. We know rods from gods are not real. Tongues and spikes are not real. They're not? No. I'm curious.

I googled them before. If it's not on Google, then it can't exist. So what do you guys think if the Iran thing actually sparks up? Are we going to see some other technology and warfare that we've never seen before utilized over there? I hope that we don't see it, but I hope that it's extremely. extremely effective. It was an if. If, yes.

Well, I mean, it's still an air, right? Like, it's like, this seems like it may happen. It may not happen. They're still moving. They're still moving assets over there. There's, there's the B2 is at Diego Garcia. There's a bunch of refuelers. KC. 135 or KC.135s that have moved over into Europe and stuff.

There's talk of special forces being moved to Europe and then moving. I feel like this is one to Middle East. War show and tell. Yeah. There's the USS Lincoln is crazy. The U.S. Lincoln just moved into the Red Sea and turned its transponder off a couple days ago. So, you know, it's...

It could still go down. All of the signs are there. So what I was saying, you think it's going to be this surgical? Iran would be this surgical. I would hope. I don't think that I... I'm hoping that the U.S. doesn't use ground forces. I'm hoping that, to be honest with you, it would be cool if we didn't do anything.

But if the reports coming out of Iran are true, they might have killed like 10,000, 15,000 people. I saw 20, 30,000. Yeah. So, I mean, look, I don't want the U.S. to get involved, but at the same time, if the U.S. can do strikes and not put boots on the ground and actually save lives, maybe it is okay. I wish we had a War hawk on the panel because I'm very anti-war, and I don't think we should be involved in any, but I love talking to the Warhawk people because it's like, they're like, oh, let's, you know, like Phil saying,

oh, let's use drones, let's, you know, blow stuff up. I'm just at the point where it's like, what, just nuke them. Just like, at that point, just get, I mean, if she's, you know, Geez, that escalated. I wish that there was a war hawk here that would say nuke them. Listen, if you're for war and you're advocating for war, what's the argument against eradicating everything? You want the territory.

That would be like a scorched earth tag. That's like a last resort. So then we just spend years and years and years spending millions and trillions and billions of dollars on war and killing people over time. Like how is that? About seizing the capital without a, without a soul dying. If the goal is to. to help the Iranian people, the Persians and the Iranian people, to dethrone their government.

A nuclear bomb kills way too many people. I think it sends that message? No, no. But again, the goal is to help the people. Nuclear bombs are not going to help the people. I mean, my position is like I'm so sick of spending decades in these wars and all of our taxpayer hours on this, just get it over. You're not talking about achieving the goal. you're talking about just wiping out a country.

I'm talking about like ending it. Like, and that's why I think people love the Venezuela thing because we went in, we got it done, and we were out. Like that's how it should be. Like I'm so sick of this like, oh, we're going to spend, we're going to be a nation building. Okay, so that's a totally different topic. There's no reason to believe. There's no reason to believe that the United States, if there were to be military action in Iran,

there's no reason to believe that we're going to do some kind of nation building, particularly when there's the former Shah of Iran or his kid that's in the United States that's set up a website in that the Iranians can access talking about, you know, he wants to come back. If the U.S. were to be able to, you know, take out the Mullahs or whoever's in charge of Iran, the goal would be to put the Shah back in charge or allow the Shah to be come to get back in control of the country. You don't need to wipe out everybody in the country to do that. I'm just saying like a just saying it's a bad idea to draw a new. I am against nuclear weapons for the record. But again, your hypothetical is it's dragging on and on and on and the U.S. is involved. Yeah.

That is a different subject than taking... And we have boots on the ground. That is a different subject or a different goal than what I'm talking about, which is if the U.S. is trying to help free the people of Iran from the existing theocracy, and they have a leader that they want, which would be the former Shah or his kid or whatever, If that's the goal, then there's not American boots on the ground forever. There's not continual war in there. It's taking out the leadership and then the new government gets in.

It's a good question. And my counter would be, when has that worked? When is us going in, freeing the people, allowing them to govern themselves? Panama. Cuba. Japan. Cuba's doing great. What about Panama?

What did we do in Japan? Drop atomic bombs. We dropped two atomic bombs to Japan. And now the men act like, when are doing? weren't then thermonuclear bombs today. We completely changed everything and we sent that message. But they were a hostile military force. The Iranians are peaceful people being ruled by an autopsy.

The Iranians are peaceful people? The civilians are. They're not engaging in warfare. If the Iranians were attacking, I would listen to your argument seriously. If the Iranians were attempting to invade the country, if they were arming against us and for sure, nuclear weapons are not off the table. But it's not the way to win the hearts of them. the Iranian people. I'm just saying the Iranian people, like saying that they're peaceful people. I mean, that's an issue. We don't have time. The Iranian government has, has an agenda that is not

aligned with the people of Iran. I'm just saying it never works. Anytime we intervene and we do this, like we're going to change the, we're going to give them a new leader, we're going to install democracy, we're going to go and do, it never works. It's not talking, listen, it's not talking about installing. We actually created Israel. Yeah, that was the British. Well, the British, the Americans of French, they set up the British Managed. We basically set up a country over, we helped, we were involved. I mean, did we do well with Panama

and getting rid of Noriega? We got rid of Noriega. We just hear about the bad stories. There's been good overturning of bad leaders with America and Velvarez. It was in Panama? Then they regress though? Then they go back like 15 years later? No, they stole our canal. They did sell the canal. Yeah, but I mean it's not

it's not Iraq. It's not Afghanistan. It's not Pakistan. It's a long debate, I don't want to get in one. I'm just saying the nukes would take care of things. No, it wouldn't take care of anything. Like, it would kill a lot of people, but that wouldn't take it. I think you're rage baiting us right now. I think it's happening. I think you're

doing for something you wouldn't even believe in. I'm not for peace. That's why we should nuke them. But I'm just saying, this is an argument for the warhawks. It's not an argument for you guys because you're level-headed. I'm talking about the warhawks that are like, we must be at war. Let the war hawks make the argument that the warhawks. And that's my counter argument.

No, no, no. Let the warhawks make the warhock. make the argument the warhawks want to make because you're not a war hawk and you're making a bad warhawk argument. This is my debate with the warhawks. If a lot was here, I'm like, why not just nuke him then if you want to go? Exactly. Just go all the way. I understand. I've explained why we wouldn't

and you're just like, yeah, but we should nuke. No, I know, but you're not a war hawk. I want to hear it from them. Just because I'm not a war hawk doesn't mean that I don't understand the politics that are going on and understand what the goals would be. I'm just saying anybody that advocates to use billions of our dollars, constantly over decades and destroy our future.

generations has to explain to me why we can't just take care of it in one day. All right. All of this context that you're adding doesn't actually apply to this particular topic. No, 100%. That's what I said. I went to war on. Just to tap off this story, you know, hypersonic missiles have been a big threat over the last five years. The Russians are like, we have missiles that are faster than anything you can use to defend it. Not anymore. If these lasers their denials function, hypersonicic missiles are essentially rendered null. It would be arguably, potentially, yeah. I love they were using lasers.

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Absolutely. By the time you hear this, he'll be home resting. From S.F. Campbell, he says, Trump created the International Board of Peace and appointed himself chairman for life, which is hilarious in the most Trumpian thing I've seen. And the chairman chooses his successor. About 35 nations

have already committed to participate. The left will obviously never tolerate DJT. having enduring global influence after his presidency. So what would be their most likely retaliation if when they accomplish federal power again? I mean, they would do whatever they can to disassemble it. And I think that goes for just about anything that Trump's done. Right.

So the Department of War, should a Democrat win, the Department of War will be the Department of Defense 15 minutes after he's inaugurated as the president, whoever the next guy is. As for, I mean, I don't know that there's going to be retaliation beyond just taking apart everything that Trump did. Look, even Trump's positive, even the good things that Donald Trump did, like the remain in Mexico policy, right? They took that away right away. And Biden was like, no, we got to bring all the immigrants in.

And now we've got, you know, all of the problems that came along with totally unfettered illegal immigration. People were just running into the country. All you had to do is get to a port of entry. say, look, I want to be, you know, I'm here for asylum, regardless of the actual laws and rules surrounding seeking asylum. So I don't know that there's going to be retaliation, but they will definitely do their best to take it apart. Well, the first thing I thought was they would make a German shepherd, the chairman of the world peace coalition. But I guess if Trump is the only one that gets to decide who that the next head of his global alliance and what that. It's for life. So just because

he's after, just because he's no longer the president doesn't mean that he's, he's out of the The chair position. All these countries signed on. They'll probably all sign off when Trump's gone. You think it'll stick around? I haven't really looked into what this is, the global peace. It all depends on what happens in the next three years. And then Mark Carney talks shit about Trump and he was like, all right, you're not invited

anymore. And he's like, bro, what is this? That's hilarious. But I do think that it depends on what happens in the next three years. If it's an actual organization that does stuff that, you know, is successful and has, you know, laudable achievements, then I think that it might stick around. If it's just a way for Trump to stroke his ego and it doesn't do anything, then it's gone.

I wonder if Gulf of America is going to get renamed. Back to Gulf of America. Oh, God, I'm so annoyed. They're going to undo everything that Donald Trump's. Or will they redo it, do it different? What if they're like, no, it's the Gulf of good faith? Yeah. Well, Gulf of America makes the most sense.

Yeah, I know. That's why Van has to win. That's why, you know, the Trump side has to win. Trump, Vance is going to blow everybody else out. He's going to win so hard. I mean, you know, I don't get to the next one, but like, who really is on the Democrat side? Gavin. It's it.

I know he's his voice. So slimy. A. I hope they run AOC. Oh, my God. The clips will, like, in the jokes write themselves, you know what I mean? I mean, look, I don't, I'm, I'm one of those guys that thinks that AOC is a very viable candidate. I think that she's politically astute.

And there's a lot of people that misunderstand this. I think they intentionally misunderstand this or say their misunderstanding without actually putting a thought into it. I don't align with AOC on any of her policies. There's like nothing that she would do that I like. But the point is she's a talented political actor and she is a legitimate threat to the right to conservatives because of that talent. Again, I'm not some AOC fan. I don't think that she has, you know, I don't agree with any of her policy positions. I think she would do serious damage to the country, but to just say, to laugh her off.

To underestimate her. I agree with Tim, though. A woman can't win. That's why I hope they run her. Because women hate women so much. Like having her go, it's going to be, they lose. I mean, it depends on the conditions, right? Like if the left gets in and they expand the court and do all the things that they want to do and make at home voting a thing.

And maybe they make an app where you can vote from your app, which is a horrible idea. I know. I'm not so convinced. If it's a fair election where people have to go to the polls and it's a one day thing, if the Republicans can actually pass the Save Act and make these changes to make sure. that the elections are actually secure and it's a one day thing, then I think that I would agree with you. I don't think that she can win. If it's a situation where the Democrats can say, look, we've

created this app and you just download it and you can vote from there and we're going to go and mail ballots out and we're going to do ballot harvesting and if the Democrats are in control of the election the way that they were in 2020, I don't believe for one second that a woman cannot win. I think that it's all about who control. Look, it's all about who's counting the votes. and who her opponent is

because I had said like someone else had mentioned a woman came when I was like well her opponent's Tim Walts and then we all laughed and we're like well maybe if it's Tim Walts yeah I mean but Kamala is a great example of a woman can't win you know what I mean

Kamala Harris Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate but she was uniquely terrible and I don't think AOC has any of the same problems aside from being women. We have so many women voters you know regardless of the repeal of the 19th and what people

and what they want like we have a lot of women We have a lot of women that vote and they hate women. They just hate women. I don't know. Hates the right word, but maybe. No. Well, you maybe, I don't know. You ever work with women that work with other women?

I can't really speak for women. It's the way that women, it's the way that women behave socially that, like, women are extremely critical of other women. And it got, like, men argue to their face, women, you know, cut each other's throats behind their back. Is there a genetic thing where, like, a woman. doesn't want her husband serving another woman? I don't know if that's it.

It's social. Like men, look, if men don't get along, men might get into a fist fight, there's always an underlying possibility of violence. And then after the fight, they can settle the score and just be like, all right, because what the fight does is it figures out

who's actually on top, right? The physical fight, it's like the guy that loses the fight, kind of is like, all right, well, that guy's kind of, you know, in charge. And this goes back to before we were even humans. Women have to do things like they, They need to de-escalate.

They need, because they're not physically powerful. They use control. They use manipulation. They use, and this is, this isn't trying to say that women are bad. This is just what evolution has done. Women are going to use social things to, to, to discredit other women. And so that's kind of where the argument comes from. I was thinking like, a guy would be like, we need better body armor.

The women would be like, we need warmer clothes. I mean, obviously, the guy's going to say we need warmer clothes to, but the woman will make sure that this is ridiculous. I'm just all speculated, but that people are healthy. Like, the way we're going to win is by having healthier men. And the men are like, the way we're going to win is by destroying our opponents. No, the women, what they do is they'll go up to another woman and say,

oh, my God, that dress looks so great on you. You did something so great. And then later they're calling 10 of their friends saying how horrible of a person. You may not, I don't know if you've heard this, but a hairdresser will cut a woman that she thinks is prettier than her. She will cut her hair shorter than what the person wants. And they don't even think about it, but they're just like, because long hair is associated with beauty. It does take effort to make other people look better.

Like, that's an acting trick. They teach you an acting school. Like, the whole point of being an actor is to make everyone else on stage with you look better. Now, this is not all. You can never say all in every scenario, but we're just saying on the masses, like this is how women. Yeah, it's a thing that Red Your Lunch calls GSM, which is gossip, something S and manipulation. And specifically is like the way that women argue amongst themselves. or to create hierarchy amongst themselves.

It's a, it's a thing. I appreciate you pointing out the strengths of AOC, though, because it's important to know the strengths of your opponent. Yeah, absolutely. That's why I, that's why whenever people are, we had Terrence K. Phillips on and he was laughing. And I'm like, man, this is, that's such a bad perspective. You don't want to underestimate an opponent at all.

You never want to underestimate him. And to just blow her off and be like, oh, no, she could never do it. I was like, man, that's, that's, that's just the wrong attitude to have because she's very popular on the left, and she's extremely politically talented. So, I mean, you can think I'm crazy. You can laugh all you want. But look, man, she is going to, at some point,

she is going to run for president. Yeah. Like she has those aspirations. I don't know for sure. Yeah, I don't know for sure that she's going to win, but she absolutely has the ability to win. So from Taylor Lorenzo's Somali Daycare. Assuming we lose in 20,

26 and 28 and we go back to peak woke open borders transgender everything etc etc what does it look like when these third worlders kids start bringing gay shit home from their public schools do you think there's a possibility that pushes immigrants to the right do they choose to keep their kids safe over living on the democratic welfare fraud tit uh i love you phil ian thank you very much it's already happened in the UK i mean you saw like what do they do they just teach their kids at home that's that's all they do they they'll come up their own schools. I mean, it's happening in Minnesota. They have schools already that teach out of the Quran and teach, you know, the Hadith and like that's their education. You know, they're not

going to be taught those things because they're not going to be in those situations. Yeah, I don't know. At some point, there would be a fight between the religious immigrants and the left. But I think that that's further down the road because you don't see that confrontation happening in mass yet in the UK, although it's coming. And I think... So it with like Tommy and, you know, you saw some of that stuff. What I'm talking about is you don't see the leftists. Right.

Because they see each other as fighting a common enemy. Yeah. So it would, it would, it would, but it would eventually happen. And to be honest with you, I think the left loses. When they're back in power, that's when it happened. Oh, that's the scary part is a theocracy coming out of all this, the rubble is like somebody's like, it's my belief structure that's the most important thing. Well, both of them have a belief structure.

but the left because of the way that the left operates they're going to say well we can't attack these minorities even if they become a majority and that's what has to happen to your point or to push back on your point um they have to be close to a majority before they actually confront the left oh yeah no I'm saying when the left is back in power that you already kind of saw it like you see it with like the the left as demonstrators. So they'll attack the Democrats, even though they're on the same side. They'll say, well, you're not going far enough. You know what I mean? Like there is that civil war. Yeah, but I think that so at least in the hypothetical that was presented, just because the left wins the

next election doesn't mean that that's the point where the left starts fighting with the religious people. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying they have to then be in power for that to even happen. Like, yeah. If they're, the underdogs, if they are still losing, they're going to partner with them. A removal of the common enemy. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Then this is what happened to the conservative movements.

Like everyone started pointing their guns at each other and attacking each other on the conservative side because why, we won, you know? And when you win, people are terrible winners. They start attacking each other instead of keeping their eye on the prize. I think it's part of the problem with partisanry is it's so much about you and your group that even if you have other groups with you that have a common enemy. split away like big tent are you ready to amalgamate or are you still partisan so doc T-bone says

Phil and everyone other than Ian Rosie O'Donnell's self-deported because Trump won unfortunately she's coming back what else can we do to make it as inhospitable as possible so all the offals will self-deport along with the illegal invaders I don't know that you're going to get rid

of a significant number of actual American citizens I think we covered it today actually I think you need to make it painful for them. And part of that is taking away their underclass, their slave class, forcing them to have to pay more for the services and the things that that, you know, that's the only way to get rid of these people. I think that this is just my opinion.

But I don't think that the slave underclass is going to be a thing far into the future. Because I really do think that the point that I'm making is I think that robots are actually going to become so so they're going to be ubiquitous. I mean, people don't realize how many robots they, they interact with and see nowadays. And like we were talking last night about, you know, you get Amazon deliveries by robot now. You can get food deliveries by robots.

And I think that there will be some, you know, some amount of human beings doing menial labor for the next few years. But honestly, I do think that once they perfect optimists and the humanoid robots, and once they start getting out into society, and again, these things are not going to be expensive, right? And when I say not going to be expensive, I mean they're not going to be prohibitively expensive.

They're not going to be so expensive that only the super rich have them. You're going to have... Initially, they will be. No, no, because... No, because... Okay. The reason I'm saying is because these things will cost

between probably $25,000 and $35,000, and you'll finance it at 5%, because the banks are going to love to give you that money so that way they can make the interest payment on it. So you get that. People will forego the second car because, you know, you can have a robot for the same thing. And the robot will go and get your food and go to the grocery store for you and save you all this time. And the robot will fold your laundry.

And you can actually say it's a better investment to have the robot than to have a second car. I wouldn't even be surprised if within three years the cost will drop to seven grand. See, and I absolutely. Because Elon today said, or I read that he was saying that robots will soon be building robots. Yeah. Yeah. I understand what you guys are saying. I just don't share your view that, you know, even in our lifetime it's going to happen.

We're not going to have robot maids. We're not going to have autonomous stuff. I look at it now. I mean, like, you know, you have those like robot washers or whatever. Like they don't have opposable thumbs. They can't do a lot of the stuff like cleaning a house, doing the plumbing, doing like the electricians. They have those robots right now. I don't share your guys out to do.

I think it's like two generations down the road, honestly. Like to where it literally becomes a part of like, you know, with a... We can't even get cars to drive themselves, even though we have the tax. My car drives me all the time. But you have to be there, though. That's a problem. Only because of the government saying it has to be. The Waymos and the...

The Waymos and the Tesla taxis are driverless in... But one can't Waymos drive? When snowing, when it's raining, when the elements are apart. of it. Like, you still need humans for that, you know. So there are times where driving is inhibited by weather, but that doesn't mean that a robot, like a humanoid robot inside the house, is inhibited in the same way. I mean, I, listen, I hope you guys are right. I just, I fear, like, we've been made all these promises on the stuff.

Elon's pretty good at following through so far. He's got a good track record. Now, was he hiring people to be in those robots? Did anyone ever figure that out, like, when he has those parties, he has those robots come around? Are there like people inside of those kinds of them? They're not inside of them. What they would do is they would have a pre-programmed walking route.

So the people would walk it. They would be wearing a suit. No, no. The people would wear a suit that it has sensors on it. They would do whatever the robot's supposed to do. And then they would transfer that information into the robot and the robot would do it. But again, this is the, the, if you look at the stuff that Boston Dynamics is doing, and the robots that they have, the Atlas, I think is the name of the robot.

And even Amazon. Some of those. Yeah, some of those. But those, like, it's not very far off where AI will be able to do, because they have the ability, they have the mobility, they have the articulation necessary. But it's a matter of getting the AI to be able to do that. And AI is, I mean, look at, I bring this up a lot, the Will Smith eating spaghetti two years ago.

Yeah. The video. Oh, for sure. And it looked ridiculous. Everybody could clearly see that it was a mess. You know, the spaghetti appearing and disappearing. Yeah. You know, his face was getting all weird.

And that was just two years ago. Right. Nowadays, if you make an AI video of Will Smith eating spaghetti, it is indistinguishable. How many magnitudes better is that? 30 magnitudes better. Like, it's hard to tell how many hundred quadrillion times better. Remember, an order of magnitude is adding zero. Yeah.

I just, I hope you guys are right. But, you know, after being in kind of like manufacturing and the corporate world, like the nuances in any process are so like, like there's so many little things like even in the smallest process of like watering the the plant or whatever like from office to office like there's all these nuances robots have been building robots have been building cars for 33 decades four decades with humans overseeing them and fixing them when they're yeah yes but they're doing the building right so some of the welding and yeah yeah so that's a repeatable thing sure and and and you're dealing with robots that's what I'm saying like very easy processes they can do but like when you get into the nuance of like

Ian likes to have his bed made a certain way, like, instead of, you know, like the fold here needs to be here. You know, like, there's just, like, that's just me being like a process guy. Like, I know, like, how much nuance. I keep picturing these robots with, like, tool belts that have all these different, like, an egg beater and a knife and a spoon. And then they can go zee. They roll their hand off and they put the egg beater on. And then they can beat your eggs. Why would they, why would you do that when all of these tools exist and you're making robots with hands?

If the grips are good enough, because like Sean's saying process, I don't know if the hands are going to be, robot hands are going to be good enough for the real specific stuff. You know that just Google, just Google what they're doing at Boston Dynamics. And that will cure you of that opinion. Hey, I was promised a robot dog and a machine that would cut my hair by the Jetsons. The robot. And flying cars. All right.

All right. We got to get some more questions here. Let's see. Who's this? Let's see. Mr. Sombra Joe says for the panel. I understand Abuela looks bad optics, but if we don't deport illegals,

what will the message be for everyone looking to come to here to the USA? I also believe we need to start going for landlords, companies, and corporations using illegals for cheap laborer or get some economic advantage over the U.S. American citizens trying to do everything by the book. I completely agree. Yeah.

I want to go after landlords. I want to go after employers. Currently, the government can go after employers. I think that they should be doing more of that. And I would love to see you, I would love to see people going after landlords. If you're knowingly renting to illegals, you should face some kind of criminal charges or something. I agree. You know, geopolitically, the optics have shift to dress.

It was only Biden fucked up this. Excuse me, the optics globally when he said surge the border. Like the optics are don't come to the United States illegally. Do not do it. Especially now. People know. So I don't think going any harder domestically will make global optics be like, oh, now I really shouldn't go.

Like people do not want to come here. right now. It's a bad time to illegally try to get into the United States. No, but that's why I wish that people like Ruzlan, which, again, he's Christian and this is like a, you know, like a thing that they have. You got to accept people and blah, blah, blah, and the church and all that stuff. But like, they can't see the fact that it's like, yeah, they have committed a crime. They're here. They shouldn't be. You know, would you allow somebody from off the street to come and sleep in your house and live in your walls? Sounds like, my years in Venice, California. Right. Well, so you. Do you.

on the couch. I thought you said my ears. I was like, what about you? My ears in Venice? But no, you know what I'm saying. Like,

like, it really, it's like, I understand they want to be like humanitarian. They want to like take care of these people. And yes, they're fleeing from bad situations or whatever. But it's not our problem.

You know, like go to India. Like, they're going to have the same problem with you. Go to Canada. They're going to have a same. Well, Canada, maybe. I think it ebbs and flows

because that whole it's not my problem. We go through like a phase, like just 50 years where people are like, it's not my, and then it's like, world and you're like, maybe it is because we're all on earth together. It's not a problem. We're all humans.

There's always going to be suffering in this world, but it's not the U.S.'s job to fix it. Yeah. And again, we were talking to, you know, the U.S. is the most altruistic country on Earth. Like, we are way more receiving and accepting than basically any other country, you know, and the efforts that we've gone to to incentivize people to go home are far beyond anything. Like most countries just throw you in jail. That's why they take advantage of us because they know we tried to be the bleeding hearts. We try to be the people that like take care of the world and we just get taken advantage of.

We have to stop. We have to just like Trump's saying, don't come. You come to the border. You're getting turned away. Even Kamala Harris said don't come. Well, she said, yeah, everyone knew that was bullshit. Don't come. Like they, again, they want them.

Trump's like, I'm coming. Did you see that? Yeah, that's comedy. We got one more from Colt. What do you guys believe Vance would do if Trump is impeached or arrested? Go scorched earth and declare this addition or sit back and wait his turn. I mean, I think that he would, I mean, well, first of all, he would take the office of the presidency and then he would, you know, probably direct the DOJ to look into it. I mean, I'm not sure how you would get Trump arrested without the DOJ.

But if he was impeached and removed from office by the, you know, impeached by the House and removed from office by the Senate, which is a long shot because the Republicans control the Senate and likely will control the Senate after 2028 as well. I think that he would probably direct the DOJ to look into it and see you're talking about J.D. Vance? Yeah, yeah. I think he would do the right thing, whatever that thing is, because, like, I was not a fan of J.D. Vance. I didn't like him. I didn't like his movie. I didn't like his book. I didn't like the fact that, you know, he had liberal friends and Hollywood friends and stuff.

But ever since he's been in, like, every single thing that comes up, he's always on the right side. Like, you know, the Tony Hinchcliffe thing, the Puerto Rico joke, you know, remember he made the joke about Puerto Rico. Rico he was the only one in the administration that handled that properly he came out and was like we're not going to get upset at jokes we're going to get over this like we're the adults in the room i mean even trump was like Tony i don't even know the guy like he completely threw him under the bus like vance always seems to i don't know if it's his advisors or what but he's always making the right like decisions he has the right reactions to like whatever it is so like i i i really like him i didn't like him but he's really won me over just through his actions yeah he's like a normal dude he's like my appear of mine from high school i feel like and he's paying attention to you he seems ethical yeah he's reading people's tweets like he's really in it you know all right really good to listen smash the like button share the show with all your friends go to rumble dot com become a member there go to timcast dot com and join our discord i can people find you at ian crossland on the internet uh youtube twitter and instagram are the three that i tap into the most and also go to graphing dot movie you can find this

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