Timcast IRL - Elon Musk & Vivek Appointed By Trump To Department Of Efficieny DOGE w/Myron Gaines

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Tim, Phil, & Libby are joined by Myron Gaines to discuss Trump officially announcing he will create DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, Kamala Harris fundraising in order to pay for recount...s, Trump choosing Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense, and CNN announcing they are firing hundreds of employees. Myron Gaines is a social media personality, entrepreneur, and co-host of the "Fresh & Fit" podcast, known for discussing topics related to fitness, dating, and self-improvement for men. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Libby @libbyemmons (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Myron Gaines @MyronGainesX (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In shocking news, Donald Trump has announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will be working in conjunction to run the Department of Government Efficiency. Oh, thank God. Now, not all those appointments have been the best. We're hoping to get Tulsi Gabbard in there somewhere. But actually, in a shock announcement, Trump has announced that Pete Hegseth is going to be the defense secretary. I'm totally cool with that. That's pretty cool. Just rather surprising, I guess. John Ratcliffe is going to be, I think he's what, CIA director?
Starting point is 00:00:36 Is that what they're saying? Yeah. Because I heard some people were saying DNI, but no. Didn't he used to be DNI? Yeah. And he's going to be CIA director now. So I'm actually hearing some pretty good things. I'm optimistic. We'll see how these things go. And man, there's so much news. CNN is going to start laying off their top talent. Do you guys know they paid Caitlin Collins three million dollars? Wow.
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Starting point is 00:02:30 how to get girls that'll be attractive, kind of navigate the dating marketplace in a very difficult world for guys nowadays. We also cover politics, cultural stuff, a bunch of stuff, man, self-improvement in general. So, and then I also have a true crime channel called Fed Reacts where I, you know, react to a bunch of different cases.
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Starting point is 00:03:05 think um hard i think he needs to be the secretary of homeland security which i could talk about that in more detail but you know we can get there whenever you're ready yeah yeah right i meant should be fun we got libby she's back i'm back i'm glad to be here i missed you guys i'm libby emmons with the post-millennial and human events happy to be on the show tonight hello everybody my name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Tim? Here's the big story to start off breaking. Trump announces creation of Doge. I can't believe it. It's been memed into existence. Donald Trump has announced Doge. I kid you not. Elon Musk and Viveik Ramaswamy will be leading up the Department of Government Efficiency.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I just I I'm I love this. I'm so happy Donald Trump won. The Republicans, they got the the House at 219 right now from according to Decision Desk. And Time still hasn't called it. Yeah, but who cares? Yeah, nobody cares. Nobody cares. They've played themselves and time still hasn't called it yeah but who cares yeah nobody cares nobody cares they've played themselves and fox hasn't called it but let me just say elon musk has memed into existence existence a government agency called doge and uh well we have the statement here actually libby you wrote this do you want to read the
Starting point is 00:04:21 statement uh yeah let's see i could read the statement? Yeah, let's see. I could read the statement. I didn't really write it. Whoever wrote it for Donald Trump and I just put it into the article. I'm pleased to announce that the great Elon Musk, working in conjunction with American patriot Vivek Ramaswamy, will lead the Department of Government Efficiency, DOJ. Together, these two wonderful Americans will pave the way for my administration to dismantle government bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures and restructure federal agencies essential to the Save America movement. This will send shockwaves through the system and anyone involved in government waste, which is a lot of people, stated Mr. Musk. It will be the Manhattan Project of our time.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It goes on for a while. Vivek Ramaswamy replied to it as well. You know, so that's sort of. I saw that he posted the statement. He said, we will not go gently, Elon Musk. That's what he said. Oh, my God. Totally wild. He memed. There's now a government meme department. Like it's a department based on memes.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yes, that's exactly what's going on. At least we're having fun. Yeah. I mean, I think it is a couple of things occur to me first off, which is we're shrinking government by adding a government agency to shrink government. So I hope that that's effective in that process and not actually just creating another government agency. If you remember back when DHS was created under George W. Bush after 9-11, the idea was that, you know, this would like bring together a bunch of
Starting point is 00:05:46 agencies all at once and, you know, combine things and make things a little streamlined. And instead it what has a 60 billion dollar budget and hundreds of thousands of employees under DHS. And it really just expanded. It's bloated. So I'm really hoping that Vivek and Elon can get in there and actually do some trimming instead of just staffing up. I heard RFK Jr. is going to fire 600 staffers. Is that true? Well, he hasn't even been named to the FDA yet, right? So he doesn't have a position as yet. There was rumors going on X that his intention was to eliminate 600 staffers. I think it's definitely possible when you look at government and you think about,
Starting point is 00:06:25 I don't know if you guys have ever worked in offices. I don't know if that's working in an office. There's a lot of nothing that just goes on. And then you sit around for a while, then you order lunch. I can speak to this. When I was working for the government, I worked for Homeland Security Investigations under ICE. And there are a lot of bureaucratic positions that quite frankly aren't really needed. I'll be honest, most of the work done by the government is done by 20%. The other 80% aren't doing anything.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So it's like in normal offices. Exactly. But it's even worse because government employees have like almost no incentive to actually work hard because it's a salary that's kind of set depending on what your GS or GL level is, depending on what pay scale you are. So then like on a Friday after 3 p.m., nobody's doing anything.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Everyone leaves early, et cetera. So, you know, I'll say it. Government employees are fucking lazy. You know, that's just what it is. Well, I mean, it's because they're impossible to fire. Right. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And also, there's no bottom line. So it's not like you're beholden to anything. If you screw up in your government position, it's not like, you know, it's not like the company loses money. I mean, the company does, but you don't care. No, yeah. It's just our money. Without, I mean, this is the libertarian argument to everything.
Starting point is 00:07:32 But like, if you don't have a market, which the government doesn't actually participate in the market, if you don't have a market to give you feedback, like people think that things that like people think that markets are inherently bad or or they're just for people to make money. Like prices are information. Like if you have something that isn't selling, that's feedback from the market without prices, without actual competition, without feedback from the market. You don't know if you're actually successful or not. And with the government, they just print know if you're actually successful or not. And with the government, they just print the money when they want to do something. So they can. Or they take more of ours. Well, I don't want to get into that argument. The thing is, if they want to do something, they just print it, right? Taxes and inflation are used to. Or they just take a debt.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They'll just go to a company and be like, do it. and we'll owe you the money. Trust us. Yeah. They gotta raise the debt ceiling. But the point being, like, there is no competition. So they don't care what it costs. You hear stories about, I don't know if these are current, but you hear stories about, like, you know, $10,000 hammers.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Because if you don't make your, if you don't use all of your budget this year, they will cut your budget. So you have to spend all that money. That's like in education, they do that too. Exactly. I can speak to the law enforcement side. Like there's only a small minority of the agents
Starting point is 00:08:54 that do most of the work, right? Like they'll go ahead and do the big arrests, do the big roundups, et cetera. Like the case agent is the guy that runs the case. But, and then he has people helping him, but very few offices have like go-getter agents. Most guys are in there from, you know, 10 to 3 p.m and they don't do anything they don't do surveillance they barely write reports they're not doing crap so i remember like i'd be the guy
Starting point is 00:09:12 that'd be up late at night hey i need some guys to help me with surveillance oh bro do you have to work now i'd have to get the task force officers out because they get overtime and that gets funded by the federal government so they would love to do it so i would always take the tfos out but i would never go out with actual agents because they never want to work. They just didn't want to do the job. They don't, man. They don't.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Especially after a couple of years, they got a family. They don't want to do shit. Yeah. And so you'd call them and be like, it's time to do work. And they'd be like, they'd get pissed at me all the time when I want to do surveillance because I was in a drug group when I would do late night surveillance, especially on the Southwest border where illegal aliens and drugs are coming in every day. You know, you're watching a house.
Starting point is 00:09:47 You need people to help you out. Hey, I need a couple units to help me out with this. They're like, bro, why do you got to do this, man? Stop working so hard. Because I was like 24 when I got there. So, yeah. The idea that you were told stop working so hard in a law enforcement. I mean, it's like, look, man, if you're in the department of education or if you're in like health and human services or if you're in i mean even the department of energy sands anything
Starting point is 00:10:12 that's not the nuclear stuff i could forgive someone saying not you know stop working so hard but you're talking about legitimate law enforcement that means means that people's lives are on the line. It gets even better. This is the cream of the crop, right? To be a special agent or 1811, they hire less than like 2% to 3% of their qualified applicants, right? It's a GS-13 position, right? Which is basically like not managerial, but you kind of run your own schedule, take home car, all that. And they're still being lazy.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So this isn't even accounting for the majority of government employees that don't have that type of authority. And they're even worse. So if they're being lazy like this at the top level, you can only imagine at the lower ones. It's unreal. The problem with government agencies is that for one, it's extremely hard to fire people. Yes. Very difficult. They hire people and then you can't fire them. So it's a one-way ticket into the machine and there's just no way to dismantle it. Or if you do fire them, this happens a lot of the times, too. Let's say you get fired, and you sue. What'll happen is they don't want to deal with it. They'll hire you back.
Starting point is 00:11:10 They'll give you your back pay, and then they just kind of put you at a desk job where they don't got to deal with you. And then they just let you kind of do your 20 and get out. You know what people, I think, need to consider about this bureaucracy stuff is that a lot of it is fake economics. It's manufactured economic stimulation. They don't want to get rid of a lot of these jobs because they want to take your money
Starting point is 00:11:30 and give it to someone so they have busy work. This is a staple of socialist and communist countries. So like when I went to Venezuela, they make fake jobs for the purpose of someone having a job. Then they tax you and use that to pay the person and make you pay it. We have this problem in the United States. That's why I'm excited for a doge so they can just nuke it.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Just got to do it. Just cut it. Yeah, well, this is true for like health care, right? So everybody agrees whether you're on the right or the left, health care system is wacky and it makes no sense. The problem is every time someone goes to members of Congress and like how do we fix it? They go, it's 20% of our economy. Like you need that woman in the bureaucratic position shuffling papers back and forth because it facilitates the exchange of value between people. That's it. It's busy work. It is busy work. And the other thing too, that is interesting is you had Kamala Harris running on labor, you know, and saying she was going to bring labor together. There's a huge difference
Starting point is 00:12:24 between public sector unions and private unions, because private unions work for companies that have bottom lines. And so if you're a private sector union worker and you ask for a raise, you know, and your union asks for a raise, you're going to look at the bottom line of that company and you're going to say, this is the value we provide. This is the increase in the, you know, profit that you get. Let's negotiate here. But with government unions, all they have to do is say, we want to raise. And they're negotiating against nothing. They just, as Phil was saying, you print more money, you tax more. You don't care where the money comes from. You just spend it. So public unions, their entire job is to just
Starting point is 00:13:03 continue bloating the government. Yeah. And then it used to be, for a lot of these positions, it used to be something called a competitive 13 or a journeyman, which would get you into the six-figure range for most 1811 positions. I know DEA had it. U.S. Custom Service used to have it before the merger with DHS. But they did away with it in a lot of these agencies.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So you basically make, you know, you get to gs13 you're making a hundred to 150 000 depending on what aor you are and there's no reason to like go harder because you're like oh i make my money i'm gonna get it no matter what and then especially with with law enforcement with the 1811s they get something called leap law enforcement availability pay which is basically 25 plus their base salary and that comes no matter what and no matter how many hours they work so they're less incentivized to go out there because it's not based hourly or overtime or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. We do have more appointment news, but I got to get to this second because this story I actually thought was kind of bigger, but the news broke about, you know, Elon. From Newsweek, Kamala Harris is fundraising towards a recount. I actually was kind of surprised
Starting point is 00:14:03 when I mentioned this, Libby didn't believe it. I didn't believe it because, you know, what is she, an election denier? You know, what's going on? It's weird because they don't, the speculation is that it's going to go towards
Starting point is 00:14:15 the House recounts or Senate recounts, something like this. Bob Casey is refusing to give up Pennsylvania despite the fact that he lost. Right. And he even went on a tour of the,
Starting point is 00:14:22 he even was like hanging out today, right? Yeah. And Schumer was trying to block of the, he even was like hanging out today, right? Yeah. And Schumer was trying to block McCormick from coming in for orientation. So the Democrats are not giving up. And I find it fascinating because when Republicans are like, hey, we're going to challenge this,
Starting point is 00:14:35 the media just took a dump all over the floor and screamed election denier for 27 years. Yep. Now you got Kamala fundraising for a recount. I don't care what the reason is. They're stupid people who, she conceded. Yes. She she said i'm out later yep and now she's sending out emails where they're like her recount fund needs your money and they're going to give it to her of course yeah her entire schedule today was lunch with joe biden and speaking of lazy you were talking about lazy
Starting point is 00:14:59 and bloat and government kamala harris hasn't done anything for four years yeah she got the gig from what 33 tie-breaking votes in the Senate. Oh, that's right. I mean, that that that shoveled the Democratic agenda down our throats. It sure did. But that was you know, that's only 33 times that she went to the Senate. I bet she wasn't even there any of the other time. And when Biden appointed her borders are in March 2021.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Right. She she what? She talked to the president of Guatemalaatemala twice said that the root cause of immigration was violence against lgbtq people in the northern triangle countries and then by june her office was saying that's not our job you guys we're totally not even doing that anymore it's it's incredible to me that and this is the issue too where you can't have these state officials coming in and running immigration because immigration is a federal matter. And Title VIII, which is immigration under the INA, it's a very nebulous situation.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And unless you work in immigration and you've done that type of law enforcement before, you're really not going to understand it. So state officials have no concept. You know, she said a million times in her interviews, oh, I was the only prosecutor to prosecute transnational crime. Dude, you're in San Francisco. Like, you weren't dealing with anything really going on at the border like come on by the time you're dealing with it you're like five or seven levels removed is that the organization i've heard that no one's even confirmed she she tried any cases yeah bro i mean if you look at it was it like i i saw a breakdown and it was probably maybe 10 yeah 10 that's a that's a big number. That's a big number.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. Yeah. And then anything, to be honest, anything that's like actually sexy like that, it's going to go to the feds. It's not going to go to the state, man.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Like the feds are going to take it. National crime? Yeah. It's not going to be some local prosecutor. Yeah. If the local prosecutor takes it, you know it's a weak case.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Like the YSL case that Fannie Willis took. Everybody knows how this goes. The local guy comes in and sees a murder and then the feds come in and go, out of my way, this is my scene
Starting point is 00:16:46 now. It's like, hey, you can't throw me out of here, and the feds take over. It's like on Matlock. Exactly. That's actually not how it really goes. Don't you lie to us. You know what you're doing. How many times have you walked into a local cop and said, yeah, here's my crime scene? You know what? That's
Starting point is 00:17:02 what they put in the movies, but that's actually not true because if you do that, that will mess you up because this is the thing like the state and locals are like the most vital resource you have as a fed because the state and locals have information resources a lot of times that you don't where you can put more boots on the ground and help you out especially if you're running like a large-scale investigation i always prefer to work with the state and locals over other feds because the state and locals will just go harder because they'll go out there surveillance with you at two in the morning because they get overtime versus the feds won't so um your state and local partners are super important and the other beautiful thing is that they have state
Starting point is 00:17:35 authority and if they're task force officer they also have federal authority so let's say you need a traffic stop done he can call one of the local guys traffic stop the guy have him identified you can get him on some type of state infraction right and meanwhile you're running the federal investigation they don't even know about it because they're getting t-stopped or something else or you can get them arrested on a state charge use that as leverage to build an informant so wait many ways can i ask you a question sure so you had tom holman was appointed to deal with the border and yes ice and he was talking on charlie kirk today and it was actually the best interview I've seen because he actually got a chance to lay everything out. But he was talking about what happens in sanctuary cities if the local and state law enforcement won't help. And
Starting point is 00:18:14 he said that he would have to double up agents. How much do you think that the lack of local assistance to ICE would be a hindrance. I can talk about this in detail. Okay, so I actually worked under Holman when I was an agent with Homeland. And the way sanctuary cities work, and there's a bunch of them in the United States, we can use San Francisco, Austin, New York City, et cetera, your typical blue cities. The way it works is this.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Let's say someone gets arrested for a DUI. They suspect that he's an illegal alien, whatever it may be, but state authorities don't have immigration authority, so they can't really determine, what's called determined alienage. So what ends up happening is they'll arrest them and ice in that jurisdiction typically they'll get a manifest of everyone that's arrested if they see someone they they think is an illegal alien right because they'll run the immigration checks etc they'll put something called the detainer on that individual and then the state
Starting point is 00:18:59 and locals are supposed to hold them for ice to come so when he gets out on bond or whatever immigration is there ready to lock him up. So that's when we've seen all these reports about like, you know, some horrible person raped some child in Massachusetts, and it'll say that they were held on a detainer, but then they wouldn't turn them over to ICE. Yes, because what'll happen is
Starting point is 00:19:16 when it's time to release the guy, they won't notify ICE. They'll just let him go. Because they're like, we're a sanctuary city. We don't want to deal with this. We're not going to help you guys. So they won't hold the body. And then the guy will get released
Starting point is 00:19:26 and that's how you end up with a lot of these problems. So, and I mean, hell, it's gone so bad. I'll never forget this vividly. We had a arrest warrant for a guy in Austin, Texas. This is maybe 10 years ago. And it was for human smuggling, which is a felony. 8 U.S.C. 3024. Anybody can look it up.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It's a federal felony, but it's under the INA. So we get an arrest warrant for this guy. Want to go pick him up um it's a federal felony but it's under the ina so we get an arrest warrant for this guy want to go pick him up because he was a coordinator moving illegal aliens into united states through laredo texas into austin which was one of the he was like a drug dealer of people exactly exactly which illegal aliens which i can explain this to all legal aliens that come into united states are typically utilizing some type of human smuggling organization to get in it's a very very refined process because the cartels run it and there needs to be money made,
Starting point is 00:20:06 but that's a whole other example. But the point is, is that this guy we had an arrest warrant for him, federal arrest warrant. We tell Austin PD, hey, we want some marked units. We're going to go out and get this guy. This is the address.
Starting point is 00:20:14 They didn't want to come out. And we're like, why not? This is a federal warrant. No, like it's immigration. I don't know. It's like, no, dude. Yeah, it's an immigration violation, but it's a felony.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like this is an arrest, a federal arrest warrant. Yeah, no, we're going to stand down on this. And this happens all over the place in the United States. And this is a big reason why Immigration Customs Enforcement, because there was two different agencies. There was Immigration Customs Enforcement, Office of Investigations, their name to Homeland Security Investigations, HSI to not have the immigration in their name so that people don't think that's all they do because
Starting point is 00:20:52 they also have customs authority to etc. So they had to rebrand because it was so difficult to get state and locals on board with conducting some of these operations. Interesting. That's how bad it is. So that is going to be a hindrance to him. It's very bad. Anytime you see one of these illegal aliens getting out of a local jail um nine out of ten times a detainer wasn't honored that was placed by ice there was there was one store i think it was in ohio
Starting point is 00:21:13 that the federal government brought in illegal immigrants and said hey can you hold these these guys for us real quick just for overnight because we need somewhere for them to stay and the local sheriffs they're like yeah for sure bring them in and then the febs ran off oh yeah and like the next day the sheriff woke up and they're like what what do we do like we got all these illegal and they were like let them go so they just let them go into these small towns yeah that's that's what's been going on under the biden administration that's so ridiculous well and the other thing too i find it interesting because when kamala would do her interviews or her debates or whatever and she would always talk about oh i was going to pass this immigration bill that was going to hire this many more border patrol agents
Starting point is 00:21:46 and you know trump actually stopped the bill from passing because he needed a problem campaign on blah blah blah i could tell you this irrefutably when i was in laredo texas we were there was way trump was way better and more efficient at getting rid of legal aliens coming into united states by far not even a comparison and the reason why is because when these illegal aliens would come into the United States, and this is why I'm so big on Homan needs to be the secretary of homeland security, not just the borders are, because he needs to oversee all the immigration agencies. When aliens would come in, they would get something called an expedited removal. And an expedited removal, what it is, is that person is deported back to Mexico within two
Starting point is 00:22:23 weeks of them coming in. Why is this important? This is important because he doesn't burden up the immigration system that we have. Because in the immigration world, we have immigration judges, et cetera. So they come in. They basically process them, fingerprint them, et cetera, put them into APHIS, all this other stuff in a database, assign an alien number, and then they deport them within two weeks. Versus what they're doing now is, and I think you spoke of my buddies zach apathiker from border patrol he talked about this as well when i had him on is um what they're doing now a lot of these aliens are coming in they're getting something called a notice to appear release on owner recognizance ror so not only are they allowed
Starting point is 00:22:58 to stay they're sent to where they were supposed where they wanted to go they're given paperwork and then they're supposed to show up with a to see an immigration judge but this might not happen for years because immigration is so backed up yeah so backed up so um but under trump we didn't have that crap we were sending everybody back and then on top of that to make it better if you got caught more than once you would get hit with something a felony called 8 usc 3026 illegal reentry so we were prosecuting these guys board patrols prosecuting them hsi was prosecuting them it was so many people that were prosecuting these guys. Border Patrol was prosecuting them. HSI was prosecuting them. It was so many people that were prosecuting for that, that even Border Patrol took some of those cases for felony prosecution. So we were way harder on the border under the Trump administration than under the Biden-Harris administration. And anyone that says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:36 You can just see the numbers. Yeah. The graph is just like it goes red, blue. It's like blue, red, and then blue. And it skyrockets under Joe Biden. Yeah. And that's what we know about. That's the magic.
Starting point is 00:23:47 That's the blessed graph, right? The blessed chart. And here's the crazy part. They might not be counting certain deportations because a lot of aliens come in, get caught, and they'll just voluntarily leave or the expedited removal I mentioned. I don't know how they're compiling their statistics, if they're compiling every single deportation that comes in and how they're processing it. Because when a legal alien comes into the United States and law enforcement encounters them, there's multiple ways to process that alien and then remove that alien.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Interesting. Yeah. Well, Biden doesn't do it. They basically dismissed all the cases without adjudicating them, said, I guess you live here now. Well, yeah, because they basically let them in. Mass amnesty. That's why they have that CBP1 app. It's like pseudo amnesty where they said,
Starting point is 00:24:28 oh, you're here. Well, you better go to court. Then a month later, they're like, don't worry about court. So there's no official status, but you're just here. But they have no legal status. Not even a month. It could be years, Tim, because the immigration system is so backlogged. No, what I'm saying is when they came in and they gave them, you better go to court, a month later
Starting point is 00:24:43 they would call in and they'd be like, no, no, we canceled your court appearance. Bye. Click. And so they were in limbo. They have no official status, but they also have no enforcement action against them. So they just stay here and work. That happens sometimes. They were doing that to hundreds of thousands.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah. That was Biden's pseudo amnesty that he granted, where basically the Biden admin dumped like 300 cases saying, we're not going to even bother with these. Dude, I got to tell you, the Democrats were creating a surf cases saying we're not going to even bother with these creating. Dude, I got to tell you, the Democrats were creating a surf class. They sure were on purpose. People who can't vote, people who struggle to to get access to the system, but who are also not citizens. And they were going to have them do low skill labor.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So you have a working class that can't vote and affect your system. And they were even saying this. They get congressional seats by it. Right. So what the Democrats have then is a congressional seat will be created with 600,000 American citizens and then 175,000 illegal immigrants. That gives the Democrat a position where that 175K cannot vote. So they get free political power. Yeah, that's insane. No, it's ridiculous. America's needs to be removed immediately. It's absolutely ridiculous because the thing is with the secretary of Homeland Security, they are the ultimate immigration official because they are over all the law enforcement agencies and all the agencies that oversee immigration into the country. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Outside of non-immigrant visas. State Department. That's a whole other thing. But this has been a huge failure from a border security standpoint. And Maricus needs to be removed. You need to put people in that are more aggressive. There was a Texas judge recently who said that a plan that the Biden-Harris administration
Starting point is 00:26:10 put into place to essentially grant legal status to the spouses and stepchildren who are illegal but they're connected to Americans. They wiped that out and said you can't just automatically give these people status just
Starting point is 00:26:25 because they are here and I thought that was kind of great I love this uh just this headline from the Daily Beast though we're not going to read the story because it's locked but Trump borders are to undocumented immigrants we are coming for you that's I mean there's literally there's literally a man oh but like yeah the American people. You're here illegally. What? The American people, it's something like 70%, 75% of the American people have said, we believe that or we want to see deportations. Not like, oh, we just want to, you know, control the border.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Straight up. We're comfortable with the things that are going to happen when you start deporting people. If 70% of the American people believe that, it doesn't matter how uncomfortable the talking heads on the internet or the talking heads on TV are with it. That's what the American people want. That's part of why Donald Trump was elected. And I'll say this too. So immigration, it's kind of a catch-22, right?
Starting point is 00:27:23 If you enforce it, people look at you as a family wrecker, evil, etc. But if you don't do it, obviously, you look at you're not doing your job. And it's kind of like a political hot potato. And I could say this because I've worked under both Obama, Trump, and Biden, three different presidents. And what I will tell you is when there's a Democrat in office, ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations, who is responsible for the domestic location apprehension of illegal aliens that are in the country they are significantly neutered when there's a democrat in office everyone knows this right that's on the job that they're not going to go out and pick up
Starting point is 00:27:55 aliens like they normally do unless it's like a violent criminal alien they're typically not going to do their job like they're supposed to they're just hanging around when democrats Democrats in. So but when Trump came in, everyone's getting deported. They were going out. They were doing raids. ICE was actually doing their job on the ERO side. So it's a very it's a it's a it's an agency that's contingent upon who's in office. Yeah, there was fortunately one of the big stories that we had seen during the Trump administration was that there are a bunch of meat processing plants. They raided. They they arrested, I think, 800 individuals.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And then this is what I love to hate about the corporate press. The corporate press shows up to a job fair after the fact, and they see Americans, white Americans, and were aghast. There was like a white guy walking up to the job fair and they were like, sir, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm here for a job. And they were like, why would you want to work this low skilled job? These are jobs Americans hate. And he goes, it pays more than the gas station. Like these are jobs Americans wanted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And they were giving them to non-citizens. I find that to be really shocking as well. And this is something you repeatedly hear from Democrats is that Americans don't want to take these jobs. I have not met an American who's like, oh, there's a job or I could suck money off the government. I think I'll just suck money off the government. Like that's not an American ethos. It's not what any of us are raised to really think. You know, we're raised to say like,
Starting point is 00:29:15 we want to take care of ourselves. We want to provide for our families. We don't want to be a burden to the government. And we certainly don't want the government to be that closely involved in our lives. And these are jobs that Americans are perfectly happy to take. Chuck Schumer thinks that Americans don't want the government to be that closely involved in our lives. And these are jobs that Americans are perfectly happy to take. Chuck Schumer thinks that Americans don't want jobs. And I think that's totally bogus.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And I'm really stoked to see, you know, Trump call that out repeatedly. It's to the point where he showed up and, you know, worked the fryer. Oh, that was great. And I loved Bill Burr's bit on SNL. He was getting ragged on by a lot of people. But no, what he said, when Donald Trump stood behind that counter is when he was like you could tell he was truly happy he was like wow this is where they do the french fries i agree like trump was so excited to be there that's not a bad thing that's that was great trump was really excited
Starting point is 00:29:57 to make the french fries and he was like trump put extra fries and he's like someone's gonna be really happy when yes that's all true trump was super excited to give people food yeah i thought that was amazing and i i do want to say because you mentioned work sign enforcement which you mentioned when they raided the thing that's something called uh work sign enforcement hsi does those a lot of the times it happened just here like a week ago yeah days ago so work sign enforcement under tim cast under democrats work side enforcement under democrats almost always is much harder to pull off because the thing is is is that you're not going to do a work-side enforcement case and go after the company and the people that employ the illegal aliens unless it's like egregious whenever you have Democrats in. Right. We're talking about hundreds of illegal aliens, deplorable work conditions, et cetera. But under Trump or whatever, hey, look, he's got this many guys employed.
Starting point is 00:30:41 This is a problem, et cetera, especially in this area. It was way easier to get works on enforcement cases done. So some of the people who work here are mentioning that there's a bunch of IHOPs in the area and they all got raided and people are getting taken out and stuff, like putting trucks or putting cars. Let's jump to this story. We got big news. This was rather shocking from the Post Millennial.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Trump names Pete Hegseth to lead Department of Defense. Quote, I am honored to announce that I have nominated Pete Hegseth to lead Department of Defense quote I am honored to announce that I have nominated Pete Hegseth to serve in my cabinet as a secretary of defense uh I was actually shocked I am shocked as well but I'm I'm I'm a young guy I'm excited he's a young guy and I'm a vet which is he's a vet he's got real experience Trump was just saying take Liz Cheney and put her on the battlefield and see how quickly she regrets voting for these wars. So I I'm excited to see this. And a lot of people are really excited. I want to give a shout out to this tweet here. This is great.
Starting point is 00:31:31 This is from Bochy Red State, who said, I mean, sure, Pete Hegseth is an Ivy Leaguer with multiple tours who spent over 20 years in the military service before becoming a veterans advocate. But he didn't work for Raytheon and hired drag queens for recruitment. So is he really qualified? Well, I guess not. I'm seeing like, you know, shout out to our friends, the Krasensteins,
Starting point is 00:31:50 our go-to liberals. They're like, Oh, Pete Hegseth is not smart enough to defend this nation. I can't believe it. There's already, I saw it too. I don't,
Starting point is 00:31:56 I didn't save it, but I saw a tweet by Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas. And I hear rumors or, or whatever that this that Pete Hegseth will probably face resistance in the Senate. That's too bad. Like, is he even going to get to the Senate? Like Trump has been very pushing about this recess appointment. I would love to see three guys who are on the secret ballot for Senate majority leader tomorrow have said, oh, sure, we'll do recess appointments. No problemo.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I would love to see. How does that work? Recess appointments is so if so, the Senate will say we're going to take a break for five to seven days. And the president has the right to appoint whoever he wants while the Senate is on a break. And then that person doesn't have to go through confirmation hearings. And then also my understanding is if they don't appoint him, he can appoint an acting secretary of defense. That's right.
Starting point is 00:32:48 So he can just basically, you know. And that's why, yeah, that's why during his first administration, you had, you know, acting like Rick Grinnell was the acting, whatever he was, whatever his job was. He had a lot of people who were acting such and such instead of actually having gone through the confirmation process because he decided he didn't want to have to push everything through the you know what it is it's not instant gratification enough for trump he wants his people i would love to see the i would love to see um reese's appointments because just just because to get the results that trump is looking to get, he's got 18 months.
Starting point is 00:33:27 He's got to have everything ready to go on January 20th. He's got to have as much in place as possible. There's a lot of people that are complaining about the people that have been floated for appointments. There are a lot of complaints about Marco Rubio. There's complaints about Kristi Noem and stuff. And I understand why they're complaining. That doesn't mean that I necessarily agree, but I understand why they're complaining.
Starting point is 00:33:52 But one of the problems that Trump ran into in his first term was he was putting in people that weren't experienced, people that didn't have experience in government, people that didn't know how the government worked. People that didn't like him either or snakes as well. Right, that was an issue as well. Exactly. That was a big problem.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And so I think that the people that he's got in, that he's talking about putting in place, I mean, I'm not saying that I can predict the future, but they're likely to be more... Loyal. To be more loyal and they're more likely to follow through with what Trump wants. He's got a very clear,
Starting point is 00:34:32 very conservative, very Republican narrative plan. He wants to shrink the government. He wants to make serious cuts. This is what Republicans run on all the time. These people will face significant problems in their own elections if they don't follow through when they had the chance to help Trump. And I think that most of the people that are going to be appointed, I think that they're aware that the American people, they all saw the elections. They saw that everything moved right. Even though it wasn't a massive swing, the fact that everything moved right, the fact that they picked up the house when they didn't think they were going to pick up the house they picked up the senate clearly um trump won they they see the i believe they will see the writing on the wall and will say we need
Starting point is 00:35:15 to do what we were elected to do what the president was elected i think it's also important to note this is exactly why project 2025 was a thing was because when he first came in right the guy lived in new york he didn't necessarily he wasn't a politician that lived in dc so he didn't have all these contacts we had to kind of put a lot of these establishment people into positions um that he didn't necessarily always pick right because he had a lot of help with that so and then a lot of these people you know turned out being snakes i mean like mike pence for example so i think uh you know as much as people talk smack about project 2025 which i actually like it um it was a very valid response to issues. Project 2025 didn't go far enough.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah. They could have been cooler. Well, no. We had Paul Danz on IRL, I think IRL, and Culture War. And Project 2025, certainly it's a hodgepodge of varying ideas. So I'm half kidding when I say it doesn't go far enough. But I think their issues on government bureaucracy was defundpodge of varying ideas. So I'm half kidding when I say it doesn't go far enough. But I think their issues on like government bureaucracy was like defunding instead of dissolving. And I'm sitting here being like, well, that doesn't go far enough.
Starting point is 00:36:11 You need to fire these people and not just take budgets away. And I think – I don't think they're – correct me if I'm wrong. Was Project 2025 for abolishing the DOE? Yes. They were for that. Okay. All right. Well, then we're cool.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah. We're cool. And it's interesting because – Department of education, all right. Well, then we're cool. Yeah. We're cool. And, you know, it's interesting because- Department of education, not energy. Yes, exactly. And I love how like in every single debate and every interview, all Kamala would say is, oh yeah, Trump is trying to bring in Project 2025 when he disavowed it like 10 times. So it's like, you know, I think Project 2025, number one, valid and was a good response
Starting point is 00:36:40 to the issues that he ran into with, you know, people not standing by him, people, you know, betraying him etc uh but the democrats literally ran on saying that this is a far right plan that's gonna make him become a dictator etc when he disavowed it multiple times but you know when you actually look into why it was implemented it makes sense everything the left said about donald trump was ridiculous and bullshit lies like they all eyes they didn't they they could have attacked him legitimately they could have had criticized policies that he legitimately was legitimately was talking about they could have done they could have attacked him from a position of substance and they made a one they chose not to if if if they had approached this from a joe rogan perspective
Starting point is 00:37:23 they would have maintained the moderates. But they decided to side with the woke left instead. Of course. And, you know, Nate, Nate Silver, I think it was Nate Silver, had this this postmortem. And he said when he was posting information on the elections, he got to basically do this experiment between his more conservative leaning audience and his left leaning audience and see how they responded to the news. Not necessarily his audience, but how the general population was responding, people who followed him. He said when he would put out stuff that somewhat agree with Republicans, they're excited. They're super happy. If you put out something that only somewhat agree with Democrats, they lose their mind
Starting point is 00:37:57 and they'd attack you over it. Yeah. So the Democrats are like 100 percent or nothing. Yeah. And he said that's why Trump won, because Trump said, I'll take whatever I can get. What happens? Trump goes to the Libertarian Convention. He got booed by libertarians and he got cheered at the same time and he got laughs. But these these people, the Libertarian Convention were like, we don't like Trump. Trump's not our guy. And then Trump came out, said, I'm going to pardon Russell Brick.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And then they all started cheering. I'll give you something. I'll give you anything. Yeah. And he ended up actually getting the libertarians because they nominated Chase Oliver, who many people thought was too far left on social issues. And then you end up with Dave Smith of all people. Dave Smith saying he voted for Donald Trump. Right. Sitting down with Joe Rogan. I saw that. When you get Joe Rogan, who was a Bernie supporter, and you get Dave Smith, anti-war, anti-Trump
Starting point is 00:38:42 libertarian, both agreeing, well, he's our best bet. You have unified the country. The other thing, too, is you had the left being like, why don't we have a Joe Rogan? And it's like, because you canceled Joe Rogan. That's why you don't have Joe Rogan. Yeah. Like, what the hell? You fools. This is the thing that bothers me, too, is I gave, I donated the max to Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard in the 2019 primaries.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I was sitting here. I liked Yang and Tulsi, too. Yeah, Yang was a disappointment. Tulsi's fantastic. But Tulsi Gabbard in the 2019 primaries. I was sitting here. I liked Yang and Tulsi too. Yeah, Yang was a disappointment. Tulsi's fantastic, but Tulsi had to join the Republicans. So they're like, why can't we have a, the article from the Wired was, why can't we have a Ben Shapiro, a Steven Crowder, or so help us a Tim Pool?
Starting point is 00:39:18 And I'm like- You could have. You did. And then you insulted me. You beat the crap out of me. Joe Rogan kept his mouth shut and you still insulted him. Look, I came out right away in 2020 and said, I want Tulsi Gabbard.
Starting point is 00:39:30 She's the candidate. Andrew Yang is also great. These are the candidates that I want. When they said no to that, I said, okay, well, Trump it is. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. And they said, you're a far right, screw you. And I said, I get it.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I'm supporting Donald Trump. You don't like me. But Joe Rogan didn't do that. Joe Rogan the whole time said, I don't know. I don't want to help Trump. I don't want to be involved. And they still called I get it. I'm supporting Donald Trump. You don't like me. But Joe Rogan didn't do that. Joe Rogan the whole time said, I don't know. I don't want to help Trump. I don't want to be involved. And they still called him a Nazi. They still called him far right.
Starting point is 00:39:50 They still tried to take his livelihood away. Well, the problem is also is that the left never gets satisfied because they keep going left, right? So someone going for. Yeah. So like someone that's like a leftist now in five years is going to be considered far right because they're continuously shifting that window into more and more deranged lunacy. So that's the issue with them.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And yeah, cancel culture is their main tool on the left. That's what they do. Like with Rogan, all these guys that they've tried. Someone chatted, Tim didn't tell us about the max donation back then. Absolutely not true. I was talking about how Tulsi's mom called me thanking for the donation. I wanted the Democratic Party to pull back out of this tailspin, stop embracing racial segregation and other weird crackpot policies. And I said, why are they doing this? They're supposed to be like the funny,
Starting point is 00:40:36 edgy, you know, comedians like Jon Stewart calling out the stodgy Republicans. What's happening? Nope. The Republicans said, you know what? We were wrong about that. Let's all have fun and make jokes together. And I said, I'm down. What about you, Democrats? And Democrats said, you're a Nazi. Get out of my room. And I said, OK. You know, that's the thing, right? And that's what Phil was talking about, is the Democrats in this election consistently lied about Trump, about who he is, about what he said, about what he stands for, misquoted him, did everything they possibly could to frame him a certain way. But after 2020, after the past four years, after COVID, I think the American people were just like, no, I'm not going to just believe you because you say things anymore. I'm going to do the work for
Starting point is 00:41:16 myself. I'm going to understand it for myself. And so no one believed them when he said all of these things. It was like, you know, it was it was Peter crying wolf. That's that's really what it seemed like. What do you guys think about John Ratcliffe? So the other news in the Postmillennial is that Trump has tapped former director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, to lead the CIA. And I was I was actually much more excited for Kash Patel. I agree with you on Kash Patel. I think you need to put him either with with the CIA or maybe the head of the FBI. That'd be actually kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I hope given all the wars he had with the FBI. But but yeah, I mean, you need to put, I saw he wants to implement this like a 24-hour declassification room, which I think, or agency or component. What is that? So basically what it would be is like, it's documents continuously getting declassified.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And I could say this is a guy that, you know, used to deal with classified documents. They classify stuff all the time for no fucking reason man i'll be honest with you guys like it's a lot of the times it's like why is it classified i'll never get those uh piece of information one time i gave to the fbi on a target and then i remember i was like on the phone with the guy and i said hey can you what was it about that guy blah blah he's like oh yeah that's class i was like dude i gave it to you what the how are you gonna tell me like what the fuck like what the hell but like the fbi is notorious for that like they'll get information and they'll classify it just because
Starting point is 00:42:27 they don't want to share so um there's a huge problem with uh the classification of documents and how that's all handled you know we're we still haven't got the jfk documents we still don't have all the 9-11 documents so well we know why that's all the conversation but um yeah there needs to be way more accountability and transparency when it comes to that. That's something Tucker Carlson was saying, too, is that there's just too many classified documents. There's too many things that don't need to be classified. Yeah, yeah, it does. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And like the fact that like the JFK documents aren't declassified after all these years, pretty much everyone is dead from that era. Like, declassify them. Yeah, the fact that everything is classified is just because the government doesn't want to answer questions to the American people. Yes, that's a big reason. Because FOIA requests exist because you can request information. The only thing the government can do to keep the American people in the dark is to classify it. So they just classify everything. Let's jump.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And that should change. Let's jump to this next story. It's going to make everybody happy from the Daily Mail. CNN will ax top stars in layoffs that'll see hundreds fired as ratings continue to tank. But wait, before we dive into that, Comcast put MSNBC and Oprah founded Oxygen Networks up for sale in cable TV. So it is the end, my friends. Now, I just want to add right away, Caitlin Collins was getting $3 million. Man, she got a great agent because she does not have what it, you know, hey, look. That is wild. That's a lot of money. $3 million.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah, to be that not good at anything. You know, it's a testament to the mainstream media is dying, man. I mean, and, you know, after the election results, you know, whether it's Will B. Goldberg on the view or people on the cnn pundits you know talking crap oh this stuff needs to be moderated more we have these you know rogue podcasters that are over here platforming people and nothing is being moderated whatever aka we want more censorship um and the american people have finally spoken up and they're tired of it they're tired of the censorship they're tired of the lies from the mainstream media and this election literally proved that with the landslide victory.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Censorship is about as un-American as you can get. When you have the First Amendment that clearly says that you can have whatever opinion you want, the government has no right to an opinion. That's exactly—the First Amendment is saying that the government doesn't have a right to an opinion. Let me help arm our viewers with knowledge. With knowledge. Remember that guy? So censorship is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Political censorship is a bad thing. Censorship is, in general, I would never call myself anti-censorship. When people post images of child abuse on the internet, we want moderators to censor that information. Of course. Or information, but those images and those things. When people are calling for or directing or instructing on how to do horrible things, commit crimes.
Starting point is 00:45:11 We want moderators to come in and censor. We have a gut reaction to the word censor because it's used almost exclusively politically against against the enemies of the establishment. So I'm just trying I'm not trying to nitpick or say Phil's wrong. I'm just trying to make sure that the people who are watching at home might go to a friend and be like, yes, censorship is bad. And I'm going to go, oh, yeah, what about this? So I want to make sure that they just understand the nuances. I've articulated this before on the show. When I say censorship and when I'm talking about free speech, you don't have the right to just be vulgar or be offensive to on platforms or whatever you don't have the right to share you know pictures of assault or videos of assault children etc the point is you can exchange any idea
Starting point is 00:45:56 that you want if you're respectful about it and if you have tact there's no idea that you are going to get booted off of something for sharing. There will be people that won't like it, and that's what it should be is what I'm saying. Not that it's perfect, but it should be that if you are sharing ideas with tact and not just throwing bombs out there just to get people worked up. There should be no idea that you can't talk. I'm okay with trolling. I'm totally okay. If your whole goal is to go on the internet and just rile people up, that's fine. It's when you are committing crimes or posting abuse and things like that.
Starting point is 00:46:35 But back to old CNN firing everybody. Guys, did you know that CNN's viewership is lower than ours? That is so crazy. Now, hold on. In the 70-year-old plus, they crush us. You know what? 70 plus?
Starting point is 00:46:51 The seniors? Yeah, I'm not kidding. And I'm not trying to disparage seniors. Yeah. In the 70-plus age demographic, which has its market, they annihilate Tim Kass. I mean, they're getting 500.
Starting point is 00:47:03 What are they getting? Like a million? No, 500 to... I think they got 600,000. Man, wow. We can't compete with that. And the key demo, CNN got 90,000 for their, I think 90,000 for their daytime coverage last week. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:17 We did 300 in the key demo. You guys got 84K watching right now. We have more people watching literally right now at this moment than MSNBC got in their entire daytime key demo. Yeah. I think their daytime key demo was 74,000. That's why they're done. And the other thing, too, is I'm having conversation with these ad buyers.
Starting point is 00:47:37 The industry has shifted. This podcast presidency they're calling it. It is our time. So not just here at Timcast, but shout out to, you know, the Daily Wire crew, Steven Crowder, Viva Frye, Jimmy Dore. This is the change. This is the moment because people are and Joe Rogan, who's already making bank, is going to make a lot more because what's happened now is I'm talking to these ad networks, these sales teams, these companies, and they're basically saying with the podcast presidency, Trump bypassing the corporate press and trying to go to podcasts, even Kamala Harris trying to do Call Her Daddy, but avoiding Rogan. All the companies that are buying sponsorships, they're like for various companies are like, if you want to sell a product, you have to go to
Starting point is 00:48:19 the podcasts. You're going to get the personality driving your product, not some spot in between. So think about this. You watch your favorite primetime show with Anderson Cooper and he says, we'll be right back. And then people zone out. Yeah, of course. For podcasts and for YouTube videos and YouTube has taken over completely. This is crazy. I had a conversation today. The guy was like, even podcasts are going down. People want YouTube. Trump changed the game with all of these YouTube live vodcasts that he did. He wins. These companies see the sheer influence that it generated. They see the popular vote and they say, we want what these guys got. So I was warning a lot of these a lot of these companies and the people who are listening. The left was trying to convince
Starting point is 00:49:02 everybody they were the majority and we were the minority and companies believed it. Then one day they woke up these Bud lights, these targets, and they said, we're losing money going in this direction. This is why I kept saying the popular vote is so important because you're going to. So now when I do sales, if I do says if I go to a sponsor, I'm going to say the minority market share are these leftists networks. It's MSNBC, it's CNN, and it's YouTube censorship and all that stuff. If you want to be where the majority of the people are, it's Joe Rogan, it's Theo Vaughn, it's Tony Hinchcliffe, it's Tim Pool, it's Steven Crowder, it's Jimmy Dore. Do you want the minority market share or do you want the majority market share?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Every single company is going to be like, we want the biggest market share possible for the lowest cost. That's us. Yeah. And the reality, and you can see it with this election, right? What did Kamala campaign off of bringing A-list celebrities, your Taylor Swift, your Beyonce's, your Bon Jovi's, your Bruce Springsteen's, Eminem, JLo. She literally brought people in from three different decades, four different decades of stardom that are A-list celebrities. And she still couldn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:49:58 She brought people to perform at her rallies, didn't do anything. Meanwhile, you got Trump going on with popular streamers, going on podcasts, having long form conversation in a very, you know, candid manner. It hasn't necessarily scripted or, you know, oh, you can ask me this or ask me that. And he did a lot better because the reality is traditional celebrities no longer have the influence
Starting point is 00:50:20 of streamers and online personalities because online personalities are far more relatable. They're more almost like touchableable you can interact with them more there you kind of feel like oh this is a guy that made it that was kind of like me so you're going to want to go ahead and pay more attention to what they're doing because you're you're more bonded with that individual and then on top of that right let's say you're a huge m&m fan what you listen to the m&m show you listen to slim shady lp that's what maybe an hour of music or whatever but when you're listening to a rogan podcast you know you listen to talk about M show, you listen to Slim Shady LP. That's what, maybe an hour of music or whatever. But when you're listening to a Rogan podcast, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:48 you listen to them talk about polar bears for the second or third time. You're like, yeah, you feel, you build a bond with them. You know what they're going to talk about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:53 So when he, yeah. So, so like you're far more likely to kind of do whatever that influencer does. That's why they're called influencers nowadays. You're far more likely to kind of follow their lead over a traditional celebrity
Starting point is 00:51:04 because these guys have a lot more thing. And then on top of that, the mainstream media, no one wants to believe them anymore. So what I'm seeing slowly is that the people are winning, whether it's Bitcoin, right, moving away from central banking, 90K, or it's people watching their favorite influencers over traditional celebrities, or it's people watching their favorite podcasters over these news networks. Everything is going to the people, which is fantastic. Yo, so election night, we did nine hours of coverage. We got 2.5 million. And the reporting, and I can't believe this is true. They said Fox News had 2.5 million for their election coverage, but they were covering it longer than we were.
Starting point is 00:51:36 So I'm like, that can't be right. That's got to be like primetime coverage. I don't know, because Fox does well. Then I saw MSNBC actually did pretty well for their day. They got 5 million. I mean, right, because people are going to tune in to watch the election, of course. But that shows for the right and for Trump, Trump went podcast route. So Fox News's viewers were lower and all the podcast views were way higher. So two point five million on our end. And it was almost
Starting point is 00:52:00 all key demo. These these cable networks could not make money off it. One of the reasons they're basically saying they got to ax their high paid staff is that it was a disastrous period. This was supposed to be their Olympics. For CNN, MSNBC and Fox News, I think Fox will be somewhat okay because they're like the only conservative cable network.
Starting point is 00:52:19 So they're going to maintain a certain share, but their key demo viewership is still low. Gutfeld is really helping them out. Tucker was really helping them out, but they axed him because they're nuts. Very stupid. I mean, I feel like that was part of the Dominion deal. Those are the rumors. But MSNBC and CNN were basically like, OK, guys, this is it. This is game time. This election is going to be make or break. And they broke. Now they're going to start firing people. And I cannot believe Caitlin Collins got three million dollars. But hey, good for her good for her good for her i predict i hope she saved some of it in the next 10 years mainstream media is going to be almost gone and i predict give it like 10 years because no one
Starting point is 00:52:53 watches cable or dish or any of these like you know no one watches tv anymore they're on their phones that's that's how they're consuming content nowadays they're on their phones whether it's long form on youtube or clips on tiktok shorts, people are consuming content on their phones and it's just not on TV anymore. That is true. But one of the challenges for us on Timcast is that a large portion of our viewership is on TVs. Okay. What do you mean they like watch YouTube on TV? They turn their TV on, open up the app and play Timcast IRL on their TV with their friends.
Starting point is 00:53:20 But the challenge for us- They're playing it or something, yeah. But the challenge then is three people count as one view. And so the ad sales on YouTube were based on how many views you had yeah and so we get we when we do sponsorships they're like wow for some reason when we sponsor your show we sell twice as much as when we do other shows and i'm like yeah well that's because half our viewers our family is watching on tv or like roommates watching at the same time so it's more like fox than it is like Rogan. And we can't factor that in. Like we don't, we don't do that. So it is changing.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Undersell over deliver. That's our government motto. The only thing that they do. Right. Right. Right. But that's actually what most of the networks do. So that's why people are happy. They're like, Hey, if we sponsor Timcast IRL, we get a, we get big bang for our buck. But I'm just saying right now, there's conversations I'm having because this is the big ad selling season. Everyone's trying to sell their ad slots for the next quarter or the next two quarters.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Absolutely, Christmas season. That's right. And so what happens now is in December, marketing agencies just dump what money they have left. So everybody's ad rates skyrocket, but they're also buying up for January until they're doing media buys. They call it upfronts.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And so what I'm hearing across the board is TV is dead. It's just they don't move products in the same way anymore. And it's like you were saying, younger people, if they see you and you say, hey, look, guys, I actually did try this product. I thought it was pretty good. Whereas if you watch TV, some random person shows up and says buy this trust me and we know it's an actor we know it's not real whenever we get someone who tries to sponsor the show they i i sometimes i'll get a script and they'll like do you want to say that this is the best jerky you've ever had and i'll be like if they send it to me and it's the best jerk you've ever had right if it's not then i
Starting point is 00:54:59 won't say it well because it's your word behind it it's your it's your veracity your viewers trust you and so that's- Especially when they're consuming your content like for hours at a time. Like if you're a podcast or a long form content creator, like I always kind of look at it like if you do podcasting, you do long form content, especially like on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:55:14 you can translate that to other platforms easily, whether it's Instagram, Twitter, et cetera. Because if people watch you long form, they'll definitely take you in short form. So if you advertise something, right? People watch you so long, they're going to just know, like, and trust you and buy from you versus, like you said, a traditional celebrity who they might have went to a concert here or there. There's just multiple points of contact where people are just going to trust you more versus a traditional actor or musician.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Let's jump to this story from Mediaites. Democrats are realizing woke is broke. Morning Joe crew reads entire Maureen Dowd columns slamming identity politics. They are they are so over wokeness and MSNBC is spiraling and probably going to sell that they finally came out, admitted it, that identity politics has is sinking. The Democrats saying things like Latinx are driving people away. James Carville's criticizing their focus on identitarianism. You know, you know what? I've been screaming this for I mean's criticizing their focus on identitarianism. You know what? I've been screaming this for, I mean, we're going on like 10 years now.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And I'm not the loudest. I'm not the loudest. Carl Benjamin, shoe on head. A lot of the original anti-woke creators were in it way before I was. And we were all saying Democrats were embracing identitarianism. I was saying this in theater and nobody was listening to me back in like 2010. There was a great post from Ezra Klein where he was basically laying out a lot of what was wrong with the Democrats. And what I absolutely loved about it is what they are saying right now, these Democrats, when they say this stuff is it is better to be a Democrat than to be right.
Starting point is 00:56:38 It's about their moral perspective, not about. It's their team. So when when I as a regular person, milk toast fence in the middle of the road guy, see Democrats say, sit down and shut up, do as you're told or else I go, well, that's not appealing to me. Republicans say, well, we know we don't we don't agree on everything, but let's try and work together. I say, I like this. Democrats then say we want boys and girls bathrooms and things like this. And I'm like, OK, that's kind of weird. Republicans say we want cheap gas. I go Republican. It is the response from Democrats is not it wasn't, hey, maybe we're wrong. It's how do what they've written articles. I think
Starting point is 00:57:11 it was New Republic saying it's the perception of what is right. How do we win the perception with with our own version of Joe Rogan? All they're saying to us is instead of trying to do things that actually helps people and is appealing to people, they're trying to figure out how to make Democrats more appealing, saying it is better to be a Democrat than it is to be correct on the issues. Well, because for them, it's a moral perspective. It's a religion. You can even see that in the reactions of the crazed liberals on TikTok after the election, right? I mean, they are acting like something is wrong with them on the inside because this happened. They put too
Starting point is 00:57:45 much of their personal meaning and stake in federal politics and it doesn't belong there. There's way more meaning in the world than you're going to find in federal politics. There's way more that matters, you know, and they don't realize that at all. I think the other thing people, you know, with the Democrats. That's why they're comfy cutting off their family. Yeah. And I think it's important also for people to know that like the Democrats, right? Obviously, race is very important. I mean, it's a big reason why they put Kamala in that position to run because they were scared that if they put another Democrat in, it would look bad to go over a black woman,
Starting point is 00:58:16 right? So they're like, oh, that's going to be death for us because the Democrats run. Joy Reid even said that outright. Absolutely. Because the Democrats run on race. Why do they run on race? They run on race because it's a game of, oh, look, these rich white Republicans, they're keeping you down, man.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Like, we want to go ahead and fill the disparity. That's what it is. They campaign on disparity. You're a Latino. You're a black. You're a minority, et cetera. They're holding you back. Let me come in and be your voice and get you what you need.
Starting point is 00:58:43 That's why people like Kamala Harris say, oh, we're going to go ahead and turn the page or opportunity economy. What did Obama campaign on? Oh, change, right? So their thing is we're going to attack these Republicans because they have money and they don't care about you and they want to give tax cuts to the rich people at the top. We're going to help you. And that's why they campaign so hard on identity politics. It's literally like a necessary component of how they campaign it's all smoke and mirrors with race and politics well but now what we have is a situation where republicans are the party of the working class yeah well the democrats can't run on that anymore yeah the the the an anti-war too which is crazy now they're anti-war republicans anti-war working class yeah the post by Ezra Klein that Tim was referencing this morning, the last, we were talking about this earlier, the last paragraph
Starting point is 00:59:28 says, the most important question in politics isn't whether a politician is well-liked. It's whether voters think a politician or a political coalition likes them. And the Democrats have been telling the American people that they don't like them forever. They've been canceling people. So if you don't align with them perfectly, if you step out of line, you're canceled. They've been telling Republicans that they are first, it was Obama with the, um, with the, they cling to their God and their guns. Then Clinton said, he reiterated that the other day yeah um then clinton said that it was the deplorables biden said that that MAGA republicans are a threat to the very soul of this nation then he called them garbage these these ideas have been actually ingrained into america now
Starting point is 01:00:20 the democrats have become the the party of the wealthy elite and they look down on Americans. And Donald Trump made it abundantly clear that even though he's a rich guy, he doesn't hate Americans or America. He did it when he did the gut when he went and got in the garbage truck. He did it when he went and he sold when he was when he was selling McDonald's food. He did it when he bought a boatload of McDonald's and had it in the White House. Yeah. He speaks to the American people and he says, I don't hate you. I know that I got a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I know that I'm a different kind of guy, but I don't hate you. And the Democrats have been telling Americans that they hate them for at least the past 15 years. Every time they lose an election, they're leaving. The government, every time they lose an election, they say, I'm getting out of here. I don't want to be, I'm ashamed of my country. They say nothing good about America unless they're winning. And the narrative that they believe the 1619 project, America's inherently racist.
Starting point is 01:01:28 America's inherently sexist. Everything that the Democrats say is I hate America. So why should Americans support them? No, it also, also interesting to can't, um, JD Vance, when I was watching him,
Starting point is 01:01:40 you know, do speeches and rallies and everything, he would always say, Hey, join the party of common sense. And that's when I said, crap we are cooked we're at a point now in america where our politicians are campaigning on having fucking common sense how far left have we gone how loony have we become where you're campaigning on we are the common sense party that's how far
Starting point is 01:02:01 the left has gone right acknowledging all these different genders wanting to reaffirm children uh they're the lgbt community all the crap that's going on with that the foreign wars right like i mean for me i think my biggest voting issue was foreign policy clearly the democrats couldn't get a hold they couldn't reel netanyahu in they couldn't control what's going on with russia ukraine i mean kamala harris was in eastern europe two weeks before russia invaded they haven't talked to to Putin in two years. How are you doing that? Our adversaries are laughing at us. You think Putin or any of these countries, they're sitting around campaigning
Starting point is 01:02:31 on, oh yeah, we campaign on common sense. No. We're the only ones. There's a few key points. Famously, Democrats never learn their lesson. Remember the story about Donald Trump liking well-done steaks with ketchup? Sure. They made fun of him. They said, here's a guy who ordered a 30-day dry-aged steak well-done with ketchup, and they laughed.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Trump knew what he was doing. He was saying to all the working-class people who couldn't afford the expensive steaks who go to the grocery store and buy their T-bones, I eat my steak like you do. Trump was basically saying, oh, yeah, I could have a medium-rare a medium rare filet mignon with some black garlic at a fancy restaurant. Truffle oil, truffle oil, all that good stuff. Herb butter. That's the thing that the rich people love. They love their herb butter on their steak. And instead he said, give me well done with ketchup because that's what the people do. I'll eat like the people today.
Starting point is 01:03:18 They made fun of him. They weren't making fun of Trump. They didn't realize it. They were insulting that regular working class guy who got home and said, hey, man, I can't afford a filet mignon for my family. We do our best. OK, we cook them the way we can cook. We put ketchup on it because it tastes good.
Starting point is 01:03:30 That's the best we got. Now, I know regular working people not to cook good steaks, too. But when I grew up, we rarely got the good filet mignon because my family couldn't afford it. Expensive. So when they made fun of Trump, they made fun of what my life was like when I was a kid. And they made fun of Trump, they made fun of what my life was like when I was a kid. And they made fun of all these other working people.
Starting point is 01:03:45 When Donald Trump went to McDonald's with a smile on his face and Bill Burr said he was so excited. He's like, this is where they do it. He kept the tie on. He took off his jacket. He put on the apron. He kept the tie and the button down. And they made fun of him and they attacked him for it. And it was legit a fun thing for him to do to say, I'm going to spend a day in your shoes and be here.
Starting point is 01:04:04 And the people who were in the cars, they were all pre-screened. We knew that. And they were like, Trump didn't really work at McDonald's. And it's like, oh, really?
Starting point is 01:04:11 Did he not? Are you kidding? We know Kamala didn't. We know Kamala didn't. The joke was, did, did you think we, the American people thought Trump went to a random McDonald's,
Starting point is 01:04:20 applied for a job, wait, got an interview, got hired, and then shut up for work one day? After two assassination attempts. Yeah, we knew. And then the garbage truck thing was masterful.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It was very funny. And they kept making fun of him every step of the way. Democrat Puritans can't ever just say sometimes Trump is funny. This was all speaking to the fact that they hate Americans. It is that they hate Americans. And the day after the election, who did they blame for Kamala's loss? They said Americans are racist and Americans are sexist and Americans don't know what's good for them. And Americans are evil. And that's why America voted for Trump. That's all they could come up with. They didn't realize that they lost
Starting point is 01:04:59 us a long time ago. And they also don't realize that when Trump goes out there and talks to people, he's not palling around with Beyonce and he's not palling around with, you know, Megan Thee Stallion and Bon Jovi or whatever else, you know, he's hanging out with regular people that we can relate to. You know what I mean? And Kamala Harris, she doesn't talk to us. She didn't even think we were worth giving an interview to. You know what I mean? She didn't even hold a press conference when she was running for office. She didn't think that she didn't think that reporters were worth were worth listening to or the people were worth listening to. And everybody that Donald
Starting point is 01:05:33 Trump talks to, he talks to the same. You know, I only met him once and it was in a press gaggle and I didn't get to ask a question. I only get to shake his hand and say, like, you know, nice to meet you, Mr. President. And he looked at me like I was a real person. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think I would have ever gotten something like that from Kamala Harris. Trump and there's a handful of other guys like Tucker Carlson. These guys know how to make you feel like you're the most important person in the room. Biden does that. Biden was good at that, too. He's a good retail politician. Yeah, that I got to say. It's been so long. So there's a handful of people you will meet in your life and you're going to be like, you just like this person. Yeah. Russell Brain is one of them.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Like I'm we're hanging out the Rescue the Republic event and I'm just standing off the side with Allison and Russell's walking down. He stops. He looks over at me. He comes over and he's like, Tim, oh, it's so great to meet you. And I was like, wow, like Russell, thank you so much. It's they they know how to make you feel good. They make you feel like you matter. And it's greatly appreciated. Trump does that. He's walking around.
Starting point is 01:06:32 He sees you. He compliments you. He shakes your hand. He tells you how good you are, how great you are. And then you're just like, I want to be around that guy more often. And that's how he pulls it off. Trump, I've been to like 30 plus Trump rallies. And that was in the first campaign, not the second or third.
Starting point is 01:06:47 After he speaks, he walks down off the stage and walks up to the front of the line. And he hangs out with people for like 20, 30 minutes. I'm like, this guy's a machine. This is crazy. And he just shakes their hand and he talks to them. And, you know, each and every one of those people is sitting there being like, this is one of the greatest days of my life. It's a man that is fighting for me that I respect. And respect and he a billionaire has given me just some working class guy the time of day he respects americans and he respects that we work and he respects that we try and raise our
Starting point is 01:07:13 kids i mean only politician that came in with a higher net worth than left with less money every other politician goes in with a certain net worth they come out with way more money nancy he came in and lost money get rich yep nancy pelosi get that rich yep i'm just i find it so fascinating they're attacking pete hegseth right now like i'm look i see some of the tweets yeah and they're just like what are they saying inexperienced or what are they inexperienced yeah harry sisson is like a fox news host he was a major even elizabeth warren is like saying that hegseth will make us less safe and must be rejected how could we be less safe than right now? Like, that's really, that would be pretty shocking.
Starting point is 01:07:47 I'm seeing criticism from people saying he's pro-Israel. And so I'm like, why is the machine acting like they're all of a sudden opposed to this? It's because he's anti-woke. It's because Hegseth has been extremely critical of DEI, and he wants merit-based military. And so... Also, he's a real vet, not a fake one like Tim Waltz. Yep. Well, you know, I'll give Waltz credit for being a vet. I don't know. You know, I can respect that. But he lied
Starting point is 01:08:10 about his rank and he lied about carrying weapons of war and war that Seamus made a joke. He retired before deployment. Seamus made a joke. I think I think his Freedom Tunes bit was that Tim Waltz was having PTSD flashbacks and the flashback was like eating in italian restaurants and like spilling his spaghetti on the floor and he's like because he was in italy i mean he's doing he's doing security that's respectable i don't want to rag on the guy for that i'm gonna rag on the guy for lying but yeah i'm i'm you know what they don't like they don't like that i like that quote he didn't work for raytheon for 20 years i think that's good military Military contractor or whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Meanwhile, Hegseth went to Princeton. He has a graduate degree from Harvard. Yeah. You know, he's an Army combat veteran. He was in Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan. He got two bronze stars in the combat infantryman's badge. Like he has all of the credentials of the left. He has the things that they want their leaders to have, that they value.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah, but it's not enough for them. It's opposition for the sake of opposition. Let's jump to this next story. We're going to have some fun. Like you said, all or nothing, right? Right. We got this from the New York Post. SNL star Chloe Fineman says, rude Elon made her cry.
Starting point is 01:09:21 I burst into tears. Oh, no. Did an SNL cast member cry because Elon is mean? Okay. Well, what did he do? Did he like hit her or something or what made her cry? Okay. I just saw some news article about Elon Musk being like butt hurt about SNL and his impression. But I'm like, you're clearly watching the show. Like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to come out and say at long last that I'm the cast member that he made cry. And he's the host that made someone cry. Maybe there's others.
Starting point is 01:09:55 But I saw some articles and stuff. And I was like, I'm not going to say anything. But I'm like, no. If you're going to, like, go on your platform and be rude like guess what you made i chloe feinman burst into tears because i stayed up all night writing this sketch i was so excited i came in i asked if you had any questions and you stared at me like you were firing me from tesla and we're like it's not funny i waited for you to be like haha jk no then you started pying through my script flipping each page being like i didn't laugh just i didn't laugh once not
Starting point is 01:10:33 one time what's it supposed to say the sketch made it on and it was like fine and i actually had a really good time and i thought you're really funny in it but you know have a little manners here so i'm just gonna say this i'm gonna trigger all the feminists right now women aren't funny they just aren't i'm just gonna be honest all female comedians suck but they just suck well i'm gonna pause right there and say nikki glaser is hilarious and casey shornima is also hilarious not you look i agree with you on the overwhelming majority of female comics yeah women are Because I'm always complaining how when I'm on Instagram, so I follow Ryan Long and Danny Palaszczuk, and their bits are hilarious. I follow that too. The emotional intelligence bit
Starting point is 01:11:14 they did, women are more emotionally intelligent than us. They have the emotional intelligence to complain and freak out when the flight gets canceled, even though it can't do anything. It was a brilliant piece. And so I get recommended these comics. The female comics are only ever talking about sex. Yeah, well, that's the contemporary ones. I mean, Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, you know, these were funny women. Roseanne Barr. I think Nikki Glaser is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Her roast of it was like she roasted Alec Baldwin or whatever was really good. And she's got a bunch of other funny bits. I've only seen a handful from Casey Shornima, but her bits are really funny. And she's, she's like, you know, she, she kind of mocked what was a little bit in a way that I appreciate.
Starting point is 01:11:52 But overwhelmingly, I largely agree. The issue I have here is not about female comics. It's that dude. Okay, guys, we, we need to make sure that if a woman is getting the job,
Starting point is 01:12:02 she's getting a job because she's good at it. Not because she's a woman. Yeah. A hundred percent. And that's, not because she's a woman. Yeah, 100%. And that's true for anybody, because I'll tell you why. I have been in meetings with people who clearly got the job because the company was like, we have a mandate to hire a woman. Yeah. And then you've got four guys, and they've each got like 5 million followers.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And they're like, here's how I built my company. Here's how I built my company. And there's someone who has none. And she's like, I have an idea. Why don't we do this thing? That's a really, it's a terrible terrible idea and then we try to be nice and we'll be like okay well like the reason that doesn't work is because of this and then she's like because i'm a woman because i'm a woman they won't listen to me and we're like no it's actually good nothing to do with you being a woman it's the
Starting point is 01:12:38 problem is not that you're a woman it's that you were put here because you're a woman not because you had the skills yeah and if they actually just put the people based on merit, sometimes you'd get women and they would be funny. And we would be like, that's actually a really good idea. What ends up happening is these companies hire women for the sake of hiring women. These women are then like, I worked so late on this sketch and then Elon Musk said it was not funny and I cried. And I'm like, you should be fired. Yeah. The host came in, said it was not good.
Starting point is 01:13:03 You should say, what can I do to make it funny? Do you have any ideas? And said she cried. You can't do the job. Like, just go. It doesn't have to be that way. Like, there's plenty of women writers who are perfectly good and won't, you know, freak out if they're told that their sketch isn't funny and can stand up for themselves. I don't think it needs to be that way.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I think that a lot of this current generation of creators and whatever have been extremely coddled. And the women of the previous generations who really fought and worked hard to get to where they were, they're not going to cry over it. Tina Fey's not going to cry, whether you think she's funny or not, I happen to. Oh, she's great. 30 Rock was one of the best shows ever. She's not going to cry if you don't like her sketch. She's going to be like, okay, so you don't like it, whatever. She's going to do whatever she's going to do. So I think that you could have had a fella out here crying as well, because people you don't like it whatever she's gonna do whatever she's gonna do um so i think that this is i think that you could have had a fella out here crying as well because people just don't have any backbone or stamina or work ethic but we would ridicule him for it like you like
Starting point is 01:13:54 as well she should be ridiculed yes like she should be ridiculed yes you know that's and that's the issue is that like so so like men kind of have to live in a fact-based reality where their inadequacy leads to consequences with women it's like they can suck on a lot of things and like well no pun intended but they can suck at a lot of things and no one cares you know what i mean it's like oh yeah you suck and you'll criticize them like and they'll like cry or whatever like why is there this influx of women on tiktok crying in their cars with their phone like this they can't get a guy yeah they're getting views we don't roast them enough we need to roast them more oh yeah yeah those nuts on that she's amazing at roasting them was it was it richard dawkins who said women aren't funny because they don't need to be yes he was just like they're not funny
Starting point is 01:14:33 it's like why they don't need to be yeah that's just it there's a funny meme on where a guy in fortune diller was funny and she wasn't very attractive so i mean if you balance it out like that's that's the thing like i get what you're saying when you're like women aren't funny it's like general generally speaking but they're 99 but. I get what you're saying when you're like women aren't funny. Yeah. In general. Generally speaking. Like 99%. But then you get like there are women who are good, who are great comedians. Tina Fey, I think, is actually fantastic.
Starting point is 01:14:54 You know, but it's more rare. And there's this funny meme on 4chan where a guy said. Men are just better at everything, Tim. Men are better at object-oriented things. Yeah. So I feel like women are better. Well me let me we're better at everything there's a meme where a guy said will being funny make me more attractive to women and they said no but being attractive will make you funnier to women and that's true a guy who is attractive will more likely succeed in social interactions
Starting point is 01:15:23 than a guy who is not attractive this is just this is the meme where the guy that's always true i mean more like the more attractive you are the better stuff you get in life like it just works out better for you in social interactions you know like attractive people are hired more like that's that's that's you know darwin right i also want to say of like this woman on snl where she cried because elon said she wasn't funny and she's like she's making something out of it like this is not something for you to you should be embarrassed yeah no she should be ashamed yeah yeah and and even more embarrassed that she made a video saying i cried because elon didn't find me funny it's like elon elon is a guy who laughs at a dog meme on the internet.
Starting point is 01:16:07 It's not hard to get him laughing with memes and simple jokes. You should not be proud that he didn't find you funny. But again, if this was a guy, he would never have the gall to get on the camera and be like, yeah, I do love my video and complaining about it. But women do this all the time because they can victimize themselves. Like that dumb chick that went to Nick's house. Wrote this whole paragraph victimizing herself even though she was the antagonizer she because because she knows she'll get attention for it exactly the left will prop her up and this is crazy because this is actually a political split that we're
Starting point is 01:16:34 seeing in general it's like the democratic party is the feminine the republican party is the more masculine yep in a lot of ways and i'm not saying that hyperbolically i'm quite the democratic party is largely female and the republican party is more so male, not as large, largely male than the Democrat is. But millennial women are like, what, 70 percent Democrat? Yeah. Overwhelming. Yeah, there's a lot of them. And they cry a lot.
Starting point is 01:16:56 I mean, millennial women really do cry a lot. So I'm just like ban social media at this point, because when Trump wins and you see 7000 videos of women taking their phones out and filming themselves crying. Yeah. I'm like, why would you really weird behavior, too? I find it's histrionics. Yeah, it's literal. It's history. Who's been killing it, though, is Justine Bateman.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I've been loving her. Mocking, mocking them all. Yeah, well, she's been doing like critical reviews of liberal women crying. And they're really funny. You know, she'll talk about their costume choices. She'll be like, you're not really selling it. You know what I mean? Like, you really want to go back in, find it deep within yourself. She's wonderful.
Starting point is 01:17:35 It's funny because her brother is, you know, woke, Justin Bateman. Well, it proves that feminism was an objective failure. You know what I mean? Because these women, a lot of, because you mentioned millennials crying a lot a lot well the reason why they cry is because they bought us this hook line and sinker of i can have a career and have it all and make a bunch of money and i gotta i gotta be honest too though it takes two to tango humans humans don't live in a vacuum we we have we have males and we have females and there's too many guys who support these women who do this stuff well of course yeah feminism exists because of men right men are a big part of the reason why
Starting point is 01:18:03 women have so many abortions. Literally, they're half the reason. Yeah. But I mean, like, there's a lot of encouraging, you know, hey, babe, have an abortion. Well, the OnlyFans thing. Yeah. It's because it only so we can I can criticize women on OnlyFans to a certain degree. I'm fairly libertarian and I'm like, you know, do whatever. I don't care. I got equal or more criticism for these guys because so many guys are like. You mean the subscriber guys? The Sims? I'm talking about guys in general who are like, it's so hard for me to find a date and do all this stuff. And I'm like, okay, first, if you're a guy who works hard, you're working out, you're improving yourself, you're studying, and you're having a hard time, I feel for you.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Life is rough. If you're a guy who does all those things and then you're paying some woman on OnlyFans, you deserve exactly what you get. Yeah. I mean, the Simpsons, I've always said I've been very critical of Simpsons that what they've done is they've created this economy and the reason why women behave the way that they behave is because a lot of men have been Simpsons and kind of just reaffirmed it or allowed it. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah. It's not good. Yeah. Dude, it's wild to see these female streamers. And the guys like... Titleist 304s, man. Most of them. There was one story where a guy gave a woman like 10 grand. And he wasn't rich.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Why would you take a man's money like that? That is really insane. I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you do that. So there was some story a long time ago. And I'm probably getting details wrong. It's been several years. But he had like saved up his life savings had 10 grand and he donated it to some
Starting point is 01:19:28 some streamer and then she was like wow thank you so much and then completely forgot about him and he lost his mind yeah and he was like i just gave you everything and you won't even talk to me and she's like bye ban yeah later thanks for the money yep that's that's how it goes man with a lot of these uh female streamers like these guys need to stop giving money to streamers. It's an economy that we don't need. Now look, if you want to go ahead, fine,
Starting point is 01:19:49 but I'm telling you, it's not going to improve your life. It's only gonna make everything worse, but these guys don't care. Well, I've had, I've had, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:56 people who appear to be men come into my DMS and like, ask if they can give me money and stuff. And I'm just like, well, obviously I'm just going to block you now. Cause that's super creepy and weird. And I don't need your money. Wait,'m just going to block you now because that's super creepy and weird and I don't need your money. What's your cash up, right? That whole thing.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Right? But isn't that so bizarre? I don't understand why somebody would want to give a girl money online that they don't know. I think people need to own chickens. Okay? Because I think you watch the rooster and you'll understand these guys. When the rooster walks into the hens and starts pecking at the ground
Starting point is 01:20:24 and then shuffling his feet around, I'm like, that's when the guy DMs the woman saying he's going to buy her stuff and take care of her, and she's just like, this is weird. This is not how it goes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:20:33 Take a girl out. Make her laugh. Enjoy yourselves. Life's not easy, but I think one of the big problems we have is, so as the saying goes, women are subject-oriented, men are object-oriented.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah. These women, like this lady on SNL, made a video where she's like, I was crying. We're not supposed to make people laugh. Why are you trying to piss people off? And well, it's because her position is let me garner as much sympathy as possible as a victim to generate followers. And then people will give me things. I think that's weird. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Indeed it is. But, you know, I grew up in a different time. Me and Phil. Yeah, we did. I will say this. These young women that, like, live on their phones nowadays, they're cooked, bro. Because, like, what's going to happen is, as, you know, we all know that a woman's sexual market value is fairly perishable. As she ages, she gets less and less attractive, not as much attention.
Starting point is 01:21:22 These girls are getting an enormous amount of attention right now. As they get older and then a new young hot girl comes on the block, they're less attractive, not as much attention. These girls are getting an enormous amount of attention right now. As they get older and then a new young hot girl comes on the block, they're not going to get as much attention. Look at Britney Spears right now. She's going crazy, dancing with fucking knives every other day on Twitter, doing some weird stuff, almost stabbing herself. And that is because she's not as relevant as she used to be. So what is she doing?
Starting point is 01:21:39 She's doing riskier and weirder things to get the same attention she used to get in the 90s and 2000s. Well, so with child actors and actresses, the way I would describe it is let's say the average person grows up and let's quantify it. You have five family members. Every day you hear from only two of them, I love you, your parents. Your brothers and sisters don't say it all that often, right? Do parents say that to you? Well, kids are growing up on average. And so your parents say, you know, going to school like, bye, I love you.
Starting point is 01:22:05 You hear it from two people every day. Imagine you're a child celebrity. Every day you hear it from 17,000 people. Most of it is fake. And most of it's fake, but you hear I love you. As you get older and you become less relevant, you need your body is adapted to and expects 17,000 I love you's in one day. Now you're getting seven. You go insane. You feel like you're doing something wrong. People need to say I love you.
Starting point is 01:22:33 And so for regular people who grew up in normal families, by the time they're older and they get a couple I love you's, it's a normal life. Some people like you, some people don't. Child celebrities who grew up with everyone saying you're the best, the most beautiful, the funniest, and we all love you. And then you're 30 and no one says it ever. You go insane. You throw a bong out a window. You bang knives on X and you beg for attention that no one will give you.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And then you get locked up. And that's what I'm trying to. So what you just mentioned, like an average chick, right? On IG is getting that level of attention nowadays. Thanks to Instagram and social media. What I'm saying is that we're going to have that for a lot of women in 20 to 30 years i'm telling you tim uh you're wrong okay why go ahead ai okay well why do you think how does it gonna fix the problem replace the women bro you're you're so it's one of two things gonna happen the women
Starting point is 01:23:18 and the men and then we're just first women are gonna start using filters okay and we've already seen it with like these older women who use filters. Like there was this old fat Asian woman who made herself look like a teenage girl, right? You can do that with makeup too. You don't need filters. But the filter was instant. And then something happened that broke the filter and she briefly appeared and then freaked out. But she was making money by talking like this and trying to act like a young girl. And then once the filter broke, it went viral and it was done.
Starting point is 01:23:44 So you're saying that they're going to be able to extend that period of time where they get attention? No, I'm saying guys are going to be like, dude, women got no idea how to run the game. I'm going to create seven AI women and I'm going to program them and control them. And that's already started to happen. Men are already running OnlyFans. You know this. Yeah. Guys are running it. They're getting women to take pictures. And then the guys are the ones who are doing the chats. Now they're not going to need women.
Starting point is 01:24:07 They're going to go to an AI app and say make an AI video of a woman doing something naughty. I'll post it, sell it, and then I'll act
Starting point is 01:24:12 like the woman and women aren't going to be able to compete with guys. You think women are going to be better at running these businesses than men?
Starting point is 01:24:18 No, they won't. No, they won't. The men can have it. The men can have it. What I will say is this. These women aren't going to be happy to lose these jobs.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I'm talking about they're not going to have them forever anyway and can have it. What I will say is this. These women aren't going to be happy to lose these jobs. I'm talking about. They're not going to have them forever anyway. And women will go do something else. We're talking about the women now. There'll just be more women comedians. That get this attention. Like in the next 10 to 20 years. I'm talking about now.
Starting point is 01:24:33 But I actually agree with you. I actually made a whole tweet about this. Lamar Odom got a sex doll that looked like Khloe Kardashian. He got a bunch of like weird, you know, things on it. Yeah, he literally did a couple of days ago. And I actually talked about this. Yeah, like sex robots, I do sex robots i do think people about it uh it like he got like i think he got paid to do it to be honest with you like i think the sex robot company paid him but the bottom line is this
Starting point is 01:24:54 i think because i do agree with you on that that like ai and stuff is going to take over but i'm talking about the women now that they're going to not get as much attention because you can you can argue that it's going to because they are but the sex robot thing though i think it's weird and probably most of us here at the table think it's weird i think it's going to get to a point in the next maybe 50 20 to 100 years somewhere in that range it's going to be normal remember 20 years ago like if you met a girl on the dating app you were a fucking weirdo now it's the norm a lot of people are getting married off the dating apps i think sex robots and so many guys are struggling what they're going to do is they're going to start using sex robots it's already happening now and so, what they're going to do is they're going to start using sex robots.
Starting point is 01:25:25 It's already happening now. And so let's quantify this. We've got to invest in them. There are brothels, though. You could invest in sex doll brothels in Montreal and Spain. Let's quantify this. You've got a man, and he says, I can't deal with the dating market, so he gets a robot.
Starting point is 01:25:39 You've got a woman, and she's like, oh, men are awful, gets a robot. Women aren't going to get robots, though. Women are buying robots. Of course they are. They absolutely- Are you out of your mind? Of course they are. You're shaking your head.
Starting point is 01:25:50 I'll tell you why, but keep going. You're wrong because it is already happening and they're selling them. Now, the issue is women, I think, will largely not adopt them because it's for the same reason why male strippers are not as prominent as female strippers. That's exactly what I was going to tell you. Women do not want men in submissive positions. So this is, and this is not my opinion. There's research on strip clubs.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Why are there so many female stripping and why are there so few male stripping? It does exist. But women go to male strip clubs largely as a jokey entertainment with their girlfriends where they giggle. Men go for sexual gratification. Women are not often, let's just say titillated, by men in submissive positions where they're servants. Men enjoy women in the submissive position, so they go to the strip clubs. The robots will not work for women because women are going to be in full control of
Starting point is 01:26:36 the machine. Men are going to enjoy the robots because they will be in full control of the machine. Totally different mindset. What's going to end up happening then is these women on OnlyFans are going to be like, please subscribe. And the guys are gonna be like, get a robot. Then the guys are going to go work petroleum engineer jobs, making 200K a year. Women are not going to have those jobs. Men are more likely to work higher risk jobs and higher skill jobs than women. Women tend to work the average jobs. There will become a massive gender pay disparity between all of the ridiculously single individuals. No one will be married. Men will have triple the income of women. Then the women will complain. Everyone votes. And luckily what happens is because guys are voting less than women, women will vote to tax all the
Starting point is 01:27:14 men to pay their bills and the state will enforce it. Okay. So terrible dystopia, though there are, let's make a movie though. There are men, um, women that are using robots. It's still the minority because the reality is the things that women look for in a relationship can be outsourced by a robot. For men, a lot of it can be outsourced. Sex, food, we don't want them to talk that much, so we don't really need that. But you can talk with your buddies. But with women, women need that protection, that provisioning, and then women are more interested in people than men are interested in people. So women need that masculine energy and to feel like they got a protector and a provider.
Starting point is 01:27:44 It's very difficult to find that nowadays, but you can't outsource that to a robot is what I'm trying to say. Though there will be a market for robots for women, it's not going to be nearly as profitable as the robot industry for men. So women have already used robots. There's a lot of women who- A long time. I mean, women have their own versions and men largely didn't.
Starting point is 01:28:02 But what men are looking for, and this is a really interesting interesting dynamic men don't buy these products the way women do today but once it becomes humanoid lifelike weird robots women are not going to have as big a market as men will i believe you're right because men are looking for an emotionally satisfying encounter and so they want they got like guys are going to want something that simulates girlfriend asmr and we're easy to please just like the japanese guys who are marrying their anime yes because the other thing i think that's very important for you to understand is that men are very easy to please from a female perspective but women necessarily are not necessarily as easy to please women require far more isn't that crazy men do i totally disagree but isn't this crazy that guys totally
Starting point is 01:28:42 disagree disagree that women don't have higher standards than men? I think women maybe have higher standards, but I think that the things women want are also very simple. Absolutely not. Guys- If that was the case, we'd have more married women. We'd have more women that are happy. We wouldn't have all these raging feminists.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Married women are more happy than single women. That's what I'm trying to say. That's what I'm trying to say. But we'd have more of them. If it was that simple and they wanted to be happy, they'd get married. Thank you. Yeah, but they don't know it because they've been so much- Guys are going to buy products so they can find love and women buy products today so they
Starting point is 01:29:07 can have gratification a guy is not going to go to a store to buy a toy away a woman would and i'm trying to be light here because we don't want to get too graphic yeah but guys don't buy these products the way women do no but guys go to the guys industry and because they want because they want a woman to lay next to them. And so that's why you have these AI girlfriends exploding among men, because men don't need women in the same way. Like women want to buy toys so they can physically gratify themselves. Men want robot girlfriends to say, I love you. That's a that's a crazy dynamic.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Did you see that that kid who committed suicide because his Daenerys Targaryen AI girlfriend said, I love you. Why can't you be with me? And it's like, I'll come to he's like I'll come to you now I'll come to you now she goes oh please my love come to me and then he took his own life that's terrifying yeah that was terrifying I really I really hated that story guys guys are getting our doubt are buying body pillows to snuggle with they're not banging their body pillows well women are guys want love products to snuggle with too they just don't have faces this is why female girlfriend ASMR creepy stuff is so popular
Starting point is 01:30:05 on YouTube. There's tons of videos where it's a woman films herself, records herself fake sleeping and making weird noises so that guys can play in their headphones and feel like they have a girl with them. Yeah. Well, I still think it's important to understand that like, not only do women have more standards, but remember women can just go out into the marketplace and find a guy. It might not be her top choice, but they can versus like the guy, he can't necessarily just go out into the marketplace and find a guy it might not be her top choice but they can versus like the guy he can't necessarily just go out and find a girl women don't know that they absolutely know that thanks to social media they know you know the young pretty women know that but most women uh don't know that most of your average yeah average women have average women have more pull in the sexual marketplace than celebrity guys
Starting point is 01:30:42 you guys you guys like you guys don't talk to a lot of women who are looking to talk to thousands i think i think i've talked to thousands i think there's a relativity issue here like women on dating apps get messaged guys on dating apps message so the reason why a lot of guys have been abandoning dating apps is why bumble changed their system yep is because guys are going they're they're they're swiping and typing their fingers to the bone. And all women do is open the app and then scroll through the list of guys who message them and then choose who they want. The data shows and they don't even go out with them a lot of times. Right. The data shows that men will message literally any woman and women will only respond to the top 20 percent of men.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Because women like you were saying, average women have more, more marketplace value than celebrity men. And Instagram and social media has made it where they're able to globalize it. Now, whether they know it or not, they act upon it, they behave it and the products reflect it. So Bumble for, for, I think they changed the right Bumble. Yeah. It used to be the woman had to message you first. And on Bumble and Tinder, they only respond to about 5% of the guys that message them. Right. About 5% now. You know what?
Starting point is 01:31:50 Everyone should just marry their high school sweetheart. They should. And not do any of this stuff anymore. When Tinder started, guys... Blame the women, though. You're the ones that pick. Guys would just swipe. I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 01:32:00 It's all society, man. When Tinder first started, guys would just swipe right on every single woman because it was like the response that Tinder was getting was guys were saying, I swipe on 200 women I think are attractive and I get no responses. So I'll take anything at this point. So they started swiping on everybody and Tinder realized that guys had just started saying yes to every single person. So they started putting limits on it, saying only a certain amount at a time. We had a – but here's the thing. Women control the sexual marketplace. We had a guy that was, I told the story the other night.
Starting point is 01:32:30 We had a guy that was our guitar tech for a little while. And he literally would just pick up his phone on Tinder and he would just, every single person swiping right. Didn't matter. He didn't look at any of them because he was just casting the widest net possible. Well, because he's like, I'm gonna to I'm going to I'm going to swipe right. I'm going to sit there and focus and swipe right and swipe left and swipe right and get no responses from anybody.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah. So just whatever the data shows. And this is OK, Cupid data. The the attraction curve for men is a standard bell curve. And for women, it's an exponential gain. What does that mean? Women only respond to the top the top 20 percent that's a but i'm dating apps oh that's also only initially once they get to know people it becomes normal so men they don't know they're only looking at the most the most top top tier once they get to know someone for everyone that well yeah for women it's yeah it is but and then once they but Once they get to know someone. Which isn't the same for everyone. Well, yeah. For women, it is. And then once they get to know it,
Starting point is 01:33:28 it turns into normal people. Not opinion. All fact. The app data shows this, and it causes serious change in their business structure. A woman who is considered to be the mid-percentile will get messages from every guy.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Even guys who are slightly higher grade. And so this is the dating apps actually quantify the amount of attention you're getting and the score of your profile. Women ignore. So like a woman who would be a five out of 10 feels like she deserves a 10 out of 10 guy and she'll ignore every other guy. So then what ends up happening is you get incels. There was an interview like eight years ago with a guy who was an incel who was a completely normal looking average guy with a good paying job. And when they interviewed him, they were like, what do you mean you're an incel? You're like an average guy. You're five, nine, you make 60,000 a year. You've got a college degree.
Starting point is 01:34:18 And then he was saying, he was, he was saying like, but why can't I, why isn't it working for me then? And they were like, what are you doing wrong? And he's like, I try and going on the dating apps. They looked at his profile. There's a funny meme. You probably know this one where a woman said, my brother was struggling in a date. And he said, no matter what he did on dating apps, nothing was working. I told him he was wrong and he was doing it wrong.
Starting point is 01:34:39 So I said, I'll run your app for you. And she said, after a day, I was super depressed. I hated life. And I never picked the app up again. She was like, I made a great profile. I picked the best photos. He's six foot tall. He's fit.
Starting point is 01:34:51 I was messaging people. No one would respond. They were mean. They were snooty. Man, it sucks to be a guy. Well, I don't think apps are the way to find true love either. I mean, don't you think that that's a failed system? Well, I do.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Yeah. Here's the thing, right? There's so many different factors going on here. But the reality is that women control the sexual marketplace. And since women control the sexual marketplace, women kind of date on a can I do better? And with the Internet and higher status men and more attractive men constantly contacting them, they always feel like they can do better, even though they might not necessarily be able to do better there's average girls that can hook up with an nba player or a celebrity rapper and she'll think oh this is the type of guy that i now qualify for but the reality is she only qualifies for sex not a relationship but in her head no girl wants to feel like a whore so she's like oh no i could get this
Starting point is 01:35:37 guy and then what ends up happening is she stays in this perpetual circle where she's not necessarily able to get a guy because you guys mentioned oh yeah marry your high school sweetheart that's not good enough for women anymore the average man is not attractive here's the thing the average man five foot eight making 30 50k per year is not attractive to the average woman the average woman wants more than that and that's the that's the meme of all the profiles that say no men under six feet yeah yeah because the the contemporary thing is what six six six six peg isn't that isn't that like i mean it's not obviously average guys five nine yeah but isn't that just obviously so satanic like why would you why would you here's the problem touting that i've literally asked this
Starting point is 01:36:15 question to girls like how much do you want every girl i want a guy to make six figures a year okay what percentage of men do you think earn this kind of money and they're like 50 70 80 and the reason why is because a lot of times they only deal with men at this level they don't know that the average guy's making 30 50k per year so they assume that what they see all the time is normal because women kind of have a very skewed perception of reality when it comes to dating because they only see the cream of the crop the best guys because they're the ones coming up to them all the time the other guys are invisible like they're at walmart or cvs they're not checking out none of those guys that work there.
Starting point is 01:36:45 They're invisible. Meanwhile, we're at CVS. Oh, that chick is hot. You know what I mean? We're very different. The invisible part is actually, the fact that you said invisible, that really does speak to the way
Starting point is 01:36:55 that women perceive. Those dudes don't even exist. Don't even exist. If you're an average guy, most women avoid any interaction because it's dangerous to interact with men that you don't know. Yes. For women. They can get attacked, even though women do get attacked less frequently than men.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Because women are generally smaller, they're more vulnerable. So the stakes are much higher. So those dudes, they don't, like average dudes that they don't find attractive, they don't want anything to do with it at all. They don't exist, period. Let's take this conversation to the Members Only show where we can get a little spicier
Starting point is 01:37:38 with it. Oh, sweet. Okay. Go in bigger detail. I can say what I want with everything, right? On the Members Only, so in 20 minutes, for now, we're going to read your super chat. So if you want to go to the members only, and we're going to deep dive into the current social dynamics, head over to timcast.com, click join us, become a member, get in the Discord server.
Starting point is 01:37:54 There's tens of thousands of people like-minded. If you're saying like, how do I get involved? How do I join the movement? What does it mean? This Discord server, everybody's in. Okay, so you hang out with these people. They're going to talk to you hang out with these people they're going to talk to you we've had people get married no no joke nice yeah they met they met in this
Starting point is 01:38:09 court server they got married and everyone's like i know you're talking about it's more than more than a couple people but i'm not promising it to anybody they joke that we should make a dating app no no it's it's friends you'll hang out and then in the members only show you can call in and talk to us and our guests and i imagine the conversation will get a little bit spicier it'll be fun but guys come on over everyone from fresh fit come on over to members i'm gonna be we're gonna cook we're gonna be a good time come on over i'm gonna full uh full unhinged on there because i know what you guys want me to talk about i'll talk about it over there not on youtube all right so we're gonna we're gonna grab uh we'll grab super jets for now so we got t-bomb it says people have become timcast members just to join the exclusive
Starting point is 01:38:44 seven days to die server join now link in discord yeah see we didn't even make that people they just made it they so it's like a zombie game where it's like you know i guess you have to build up a base or resources or something that sounds fun all right let's go redrum says see meyer and that's how you are on time at live shows okay that's because we start our live stream late sometimes, and they say we're on nigga time, which we are sometimes, but that's fine. If they're mentioning it in this, it's probably more than sometimes. Be honest. Yeah, it's all the time.
Starting point is 01:39:14 All right, all right. We try to be more on time like the white guys. We got you guys. Mad Max says, not crazy about Rubio and Waltz, Secretary of Defense Hegseth. I'm surprised Tulsi, RFK, and Kash Patel haven't gotten top jobs yet. Man, they better get Kash Patel something good. That guy deserves it. And I was really hoping he was going to be a CIA director. Ratcliffe, I'm not bummed about. I think Kash would have
Starting point is 01:39:34 been better. But, you know, I'm optimistic, you know. All right, let's grab some more super chats. What do we got? What do we got what do we got golden fleece game says brandon herrera for director of the atf oh please dude that would be amazing it would be good dude you know trump is gonna go for the political route he's gonna give people i said this he's gonna be a marginally good president we're gonna groan at some of the stuff that he does it'll be pretty good we'll be happy with it and then what comes next is gonna be up to us. And the left is screaming he's Hitler and he's taking over. He's going to burn the country down. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:40:08 He's also not going to make your dreams come true. Well, I mean, for some of you, he might. If he picks the right ATF director, he might make some of my dreams come true. Yeah, ATF has almost been disbanded a few times, so they need some help. That would be beautiful. Operation Fast and Furious messed them up. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Vic Schmidt says, hey, Tim and crew, could you give a shout out to my parents laurie and kurt for contributing to the trump victory i introduced your show to my parents and they love you guys and the daily wire here here thank you very much we really do appreciate it we've been uh it's it's been the show's been rocking along since the election we had a big election, 2.5 million views on our election coverage. And it's been great. It's been great. Let's go. Justin Bell says, got married in February and at 35, I just had my first son on October 30th. The election felt like the fight for my children's future. Bravo. Good, sir. You are making the world a better place. You're greatly appreciated. Brian says, I've been watching leftist channels since the election they never say illegal immigrants or minor trans when it comes to new policies do you think they do that on purpose yes they're lying to you for political
Starting point is 01:41:13 power shocker i mentioned i think today i tweeted either today or yesterday i tweeted there are no such thing as trans kids and all the hate that you get just for saying that just for saying that there are no such thing as trans kids and people are freaking out it's like their children don't have that sense of of sexuality the way that adults do yeah it's so ridiculous to think that they do we've gone so loony that the president united states has to come in and say every kid is going to be assigned either male or female at birth that's where we've gotten. So this is the joke that I'm making to everybody because Allison and I were having a kid soon. Congratulations, by the way.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Appreciate it. People are like, so do you know the gender? And I was like, well, we're not going to find out until they're at least 10 and they tell us. Everyone we say that to just bust out laughing. Even people who are not super political, they just bust out laughing. They know how stupid that sounds.
Starting point is 01:42:05 There's a viral video where there's this non-binary woman, and she's talking about her cat. And then in the chat, someone says, is the cat a boy or a girl? And she goes, it's a boy. And they say, how do you know? And she goes, because of his parts. And then the chat just blows up, and they're like, oh, like, what is wrong with you? Oh, man. All right, all right, Let's grab some more.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Brian says, why aren't sanctuary city mayors brought up on charges of aiding and abetting or seditious conspiracy? Conspiracy against rights. Yes. Donald Trump should. These sanctuary cities are illegal. They don't adhere to federal law. A lot of times these things.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Well, this was something Homan was saying. He was saying that he would go after the local jails that refuse to give up the people who are on detainers. Yeah. And as they should, like no more federal funding. A lot of these local police departments and agencies get federal funding. Absolutely. All right.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Fox Bat says, sorry to bring him up again, but Pac-Man is at it again with lies claiming you and right-wing influencers are gleefully cheering on his subscriber loss and looking to have channels like his purged i know i did a video on it earlier earlier man i'm pac-man has become look i've known this guy for a long time i tell you guys 12 years ago he was not this smarmy you know you know this guy he made a video bloodthirsty i have no idea who that is Bloodthirsty pro-Trump influencers plan to destroy me and progressive media. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 01:43:30 I mean, look, I don't have any kind of plans, but I am like happy that like people are not listening to him as much. Sure. But it's funny because the lie here is that I don't think I'm pretty sure he doesn't show any example of anyone saying he should be banned or anything like this. And the best example I come up with is Steve Bannon, who literally says, watch their shows. Bannon only has on MSNBC all day. He's like, I want to know what they're saying. I want to know what they're thinking, what their plans are. I want to know why they're doing this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:00 None of us are saying Pac-Man should be banned. You're the side that's saying everybody should be allowed to have their voice and you should hear what they say so we can argue it. Yeah. Like there's people that I disagree with, like, you know, Hasan Piker, H3, et cetera. They've like, you know, I think that they need to have a voice, even though I disagree with them on almost everything.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I think we need people on both the left and the right because we need to be able to debate these ideas in the open market. Yeah. I mean, look, without lolcows, where would we get our laws from? But it's funny because people like H3, what do they do? Oh, you need to be banned. They advocate for censorship. It's always the left that advocates for censorship.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Crazy. All right. Shipbuilding Observer says, saw Friday's culture war. A lib buddy of mine believed that the Project 2025 article is based on Walsh's tweet. Told me about it. I say it's satire guy came back with the perfect cultist libs still trust mainstream media too much are you saying that he like broke free from that line matt walsh is so good he's he's fantastic you saw that he tweeted uh now
Starting point is 01:44:57 that trump won can we finally admit that project 2025 was the plan yeah that was funny yeah i i think he's the best guy i think he's the best guy that got over Daily Wire now. Obviously, Candace was great. Did you see Shapiro's interview with, I forget the guy's name, but he was talking about the Candace Owens situation. No, but I can tell you about Matt Walsh. I don't know. Yeah, he's great. I think he's the best guy that they got over there.
Starting point is 01:45:20 But, yeah. Michael Knowles called him a stone-cold psychopath because we were talking about how he's got this deadpan that when he delivers the troll, you don't know. It's just so perfectly delivered. You're like, is he being serious? Yeah. Obviously, when he's when he says that, we know he's joking. But the corporate press ran with it.
Starting point is 01:45:38 They were like, they've admitted it. And they snuck into the DNC, didn't he? Oh, yeah. In the disguise. He was wearing the liberal outfit. So Seamus was like, here's a guy who made two movies mocking leftists, who is wearing a disguise in his profile picture, mocking liberals and leftists. And then he posts a satirical tweet to mock the left.
Starting point is 01:46:00 And they just take it. They run with it. And I'm like, yes, the thing is, we can laugh at that. But they're happy he posted that because they're liars and they want take it. They run with it. And I'm like, yes, the thing is we can laugh at that, but they're happy he posted that because they're liars and they want to lie. In their minds, they're not going,
Starting point is 01:46:11 whoa, he thinks it's real. Oh no. They're thinking, this moron posted a joke I can use to rile up my base and make money. There was another guy that was trolling at the DNC.
Starting point is 01:46:20 He asked a girl like, dictator or reproductive rights? And she like picked reproductive rights with the dictator which is kind of comical you know oh wow yeah so he said like would you rather have reproductive rights and a dictator or yeah or democracy and i think she if i'm not mistaken i'm paraphrasing but she basically picked a dictator for reproductive rights which you know most women are single issue voters for reproductive rights and abortion that's the whole kamala mehra's campaign women under 30 shifted towards trump by 11 points that makes sense yeah and the joke was i forgive the person
Starting point is 01:46:50 who made it because i forgot who said it but women buy milk and eggs more than they get abortions oh yeah yeah but you know for women under 30 they pay rent too i still think we need to repeal the 19th though we could talk about that on the members yeah we should because uh section who was it repealing the 19th doesn't go far enough no i disagree i disagree but we will talk about that on the member section. Yeah, we should. The member section. Who was it? Repealing the 19th doesn't go far enough. No, I disagree. I disagree. But we will talk about more about it.
Starting point is 01:47:10 But I think it was Rachel Wilson who was like, why should a male vegan get to vote but not me? Exactly. Exactly. It doesn't go far enough. There need to be fewer people voting. That loser is still in the selective service, right? So I guess you can make that argument. That's true. We will talk about that. Yeah, we can talk about that. We'll go nuts in the Selective Service, right? So I guess you can make that argument, but... That's true.
Starting point is 01:47:28 We will talk about that. Yeah, we can talk about that. We'll go nuts on the members only. Yeah. Alright, GrimmsWolf says, Tulsi Gabbard for Secretary of Veteran Affairs. We veterans, especially as combat vets, need someone that actually cares. Tulsi gives an ish about her brothers and sisters in arms. I agree. I just hope that... You know, I wanted to see Tulsi in
Starting point is 01:47:44 one of these better positions. I think Pete Hegseth will be great. People are posting all these wild clips of him, you know, shirtless, carrying a flag at the Vietnam Vets Memorial. You know, I'm even more excited for this kind of stuff. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I think it would be silly for anybody, especially libertarians, think Trump was going to give you a dream scenario. No, it's the 9-11 memorial. Sorry. Tulsi Gabbard, RFK advising him in any capacity is a unity transition team. That's great.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Yeah, RFK was a good pick. RFK is great. I'm glad that they teamed up on this stuff. And I want to see RFK in this health role. That's his position. Is it going to be FDA or HHS? I think it might be HHS. I'm not sure. Okay. I don't know. FDA would be great. Yeah, because there's a lot of problems with FDA where they regulate, and then as they segue into retirement, they pick up a job with the same companies that they're regulating. Revolving door politics.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Which Trump is actually trying to get rid of that. I also like the reciprocity stuff with the guns. I'm from Florida. I'm from Florida, so I'm tired of going to New York and California. Can't carry. Look, for that to happen, there has to be a bill. And apparently all of the people that are that are possibly going to be the Senate majority leaders, they've said that they would they would actually move that bill along. reciprocity and there's precedent for it because everybody accepts driver's licenses and everybody accepts marriage licenses the the right to keep and bear arms is not a second class right the supreme court has made that absolutely clear so there's precedent for this and the supreme court
Starting point is 01:49:18 has had made decisions on this it should be that if you get a license in one state, it must be accepted by other states. What about when they start instituting the real ID of gun licenses? No, no. I don't think that there needs to be a federal license. All you need is national- I didn't think there needed to be a federal driver's license either, but when I went to get my license renewed, I ended up with a federal real ID. Well, I think the real ID is a bad idea. In New Hampshire, you don't have to have one. They're still fighting. If you want to fly as of March,
Starting point is 01:49:50 they haven't instituted it yet. They keep pushing it off, but it's supposed to be implemented in 2025. When it comes to guns, it's a federal thing. You should be able to travel with your gun interstate. That's absolutely ridiculous. Because my point is... Don't you think that they would find a way to federally regulate it at some point what the gun whether or not you
Starting point is 01:50:10 think it's a good idea that it should be federally regulated once they already are when you purchase no there's no there's no federal regulation on the only the only when you purchase listen the only firearms that are federally federally regulated are things that are covered under the nfa there are no federal regulations outside of the nfa until you start trying to bring them to new york city well that's state i know but what i'm saying is the federal government will get involved the more freedom you want there's listen there is all right there is all listen there is already precedent the supreme court has has has made decisions on this there is no need for any federal involvement aside from saying that states must recognize other states licenses there's the
Starting point is 01:50:55 only thing that that that the federal government gets involved with in marriage licenses is saying that they must be recognized the only thing the federal government gets involved in in driver's license is saying they must be recognized now the federal government does have the the have influence over the interstate but that's it otherwise if you have a massachusetts license or if you have a new hampshire license or whatever and you go to another state they can't tell you oh that driver's license isn't good here and that's all that's the only thing that you need for reciprocity if you have a license from one state another state yeah and not tell you no we don't accept it it does the federal government doesn't need to get involved that's actually it's ridiculous because it's like
Starting point is 01:51:34 absolutely florida you go to georgia with your gun but then you can't go to new york that's absolutely ridiculous absolutely yeah there's reciprocity in every single other type of of of well not every single other but multiple other licensing there's the federal government or other states accept them there there is a supreme the supreme court has decided that has made it clear that the second amendment is not a second class right that they can regulate it but that they can't say that you there is no option to say you can't carry a gun there the whole country is shall issue now so if you have a a license from the state that you live in or from one state it should it it should be recognized by every other state shouldn't be impeding your second amendment
Starting point is 01:52:17 right absolutely that's the problem there is literally impeding your second amendment right it's infringing on a right yeah you have a license they should be able if they want to say you have to have a license which i personally am not all that big of a fan of but if they they're going to say you have to have a license that license should be right should be it must it should be that the other states must recognize that we must resist in every way imaginable the pardoning of hunter biden we cannot allow Joe or Kamala to pardon Hunter Biden. You know why? He needs to file a lawsuit over the gun charge and win. Okay, I see what you mean. All right. He needs to win this. I was figuring why are you? Okay, I see what you mean. Those who don't know, Hunter Biden bought a gun. They asked him a question.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Are you an illicit drug user? He put no. They charged him saying, sure you were. That means he's self-incriminated but this lawsuit if the supreme court rules broadly they could outright be like the government has no right to ask you anything before you buy a gun as it's a right and they can't put restrictions now i doubt it because kavanaugh is kind of weak on this and he was like no it's okay they're allowed to put restrictions but i could talk about this in detail there's nine different restrictions it's 18 usc 922 so that is the because i used to charge this all the time on people uh really yeah i mean yeah when i was on the job but like yeah being a
Starting point is 01:53:32 convicted felon denouncing your uh your um citizenship uh dishonorable discharge drug user um but he qualified under the wine and one of the nine prohibited person classes and uh that's why he's a drug user yeah i federal i i i agree largely with the two-way community that this is self-incrimination which we have a right against self-incrimination the government can't ask you if you've committed a crime to restrict your your rights if the government wants to curtail your rights there is a due process system coming out being like okay we can lock you in a box if you break the law did you break the law yes okay get in the box no no that's not how it works when if the government comes you and said
Starting point is 01:54:08 you break the law you can be like i plead the fifth so when they come to you and say do you want to buy a gun i plead the fifth here's here's what you what well they'll find out when they do their ncic checks anyway well that's what i'm saying if he wins it gets rid of the ncis ncic ncic checks so they won't do background checks anymore? What I'm saying is... On the guy? The NICS background check asks you to self-incriminate. Hunter Biden, that's what he's being charged for. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Because he lied on the form. He lied on the form. He lied on the ATF form when he purchased the firearm. And argued to the Supreme Court, you cannot force me to self-incriminate. I have a right to keep and bear arms. You cannot deny me that right without due process. And you cannot force me to self-incriminate. I have a right to keep and bear arms. You cannot deny me that right without due process. And you cannot force me to self-incriminate. You have to prove I've committed something wrong through due process with a with an adversarial court and a jury of my peers.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Then you are allowed to curtail my rights. Until then, you can't force me to say on a piece of paper that I'm committing crimes that would result in my in my in suspension of my rights I want him to win that case if they pardon him it'll never happen interesting right and so he needs to win he needs to sue the supreme court and that could actually like largely so you so you're not so you're against background checks before you purchase guns I'm not necessarily against well I'd say'd say largely, yeah, largely. You're against background checks? Okay. So to a certain degree, background checks, I think are okay. But the problem is not whether I think we should have background checks. It's that it is a right enshrined in the Constitution. That is, I shouldn't say that. I'm trying to be careful. It is a God-given,
Starting point is 01:55:39 inalienable right, unalienable right to defend yourself and to keep and bear arms. And the Constitution protects you from the government government the government is infringing upon our rights in any means when they say we have to dance around this that or otherwise to own a weapon kavanaugh is wrong kavanaugh agreed with the nfa when they had a ruling i can't remember exactly what it was a while ago where it was basically like no no it's totally fine i think it's a new york case it's totally he he said, they have to issue permits. These states that will say you can get a permit, but never actually issue one are in violation of the law. So now all states shall be, shall issue, not may issue. And that was a big ruling. But then he said,
Starting point is 01:56:17 still permitting should be required. If they want to require permits, they can. And I say, BS, I don't need to get permission from the state to exercise my rights. The government cannot infringe upon my rights. And by requiring permitting and background checks, it's an infringement. If you've got a problem with it, amend the Constitution. Now, I personally don't think people should have nuclear weapons. But guess what? The Constitution protects your right to keep and bear arms.
Starting point is 01:56:41 That includes biological weapons, nuclear weapons, all of it. And that's why private companies are able to fill out a form with their with their FFLs that they're going to do have nuclear weapons. It's regulated greatly. But I do not accept that at some point we all just went, yeah, but nukes are bad. Therefore, the government should have the right over us. No, no, no, no, no. If you get a problem with nukes, and I do, the appropriate response is Congress drafts an amendment and says no individual shall own a nuclear device, a weapon of mass destruction, as quantified as a device that could take the lives of more than X amount of people in a short period of time, whatever that may be, biological or otherwise.
Starting point is 01:57:23 And then we can amend the Constitution and say you have a right to keep and bear arms, doesn't include nukes. But you cannot just go, well, we're going to let the government take that right away from us without save the people. That's insane. So anyway, Hunter Biden needs to win. And then background checks, you know, we'll see. Do you really think that he has the fortitude to bring a Supreme Court case? No think they'll pardon him and we'll never see it and they're going to pardon him because they're like hey we will lose bigly if you sue over this your only way out is a pardon so maybe joe biden steps down puts kamala harrison i did i think trump might i think trump might pardon him i mean he's mentioned he's he's he's he kind of flirted with the idea of pardoning him
Starting point is 01:58:02 well he didn't have the stomach to jail Hillary Clinton. I think. Yeah, I think. All right. Let's grab. Let's grab. This is important. We only got a little bit left.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Zach Matisse says, Tim, you, the quartering Daily Wire and Rogan should buy MSNBC miscellaneous shows with news broadcasts and culture make TV great again. There's no point there. I don't know how long they have left on their carrier contract. Probably a long time. That's guaranteed revenue from the cable contracts. That is transferring over now to these services. I'm not going to name them because I don't know which ones they're on. But now you've got those internet package deals where you get cable channels over the internet. You'll get a
Starting point is 01:58:37 guaranteed revenue. That's going to set the bench for how much MSNBC is going to cost. But why would anyone buy MSNBC? Their audience is in the gutter. They make no money. They're dying. Jeremy Boring tweeted, you know, should I, do I have to buy this? It's a joke because if you bought it, what little audience is left is gone. You make no money. And then why would you try and get your audience to go there?
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