Timcast IRL - Epstein BLOWBACK, Billionaire RESIGNS IN SHAME w/ Alex Stein

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Tim, Phil, Elaad, Carter are joined by Alex Stein to discuss a billionaire resigning after allgedly being connected to Epstein, Epstein Jerky conspiracy going viral, Aliens being real, and a mass shoo...ting in Rhode Island.  Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest: Alex Stein @alexstein99 (X)

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Starting point is 00:01:06 Sorry. How's it going? Wait, what are you guys doing? We're chilling. Doing good. Doing good. Yeah. That's great.
Starting point is 00:01:18 It's a good thing to the show, everybody. So a billionaire's resigned from the board. He was the chairman of the Hyde Hotels and he's the cousin of J.B. Pritzker.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Because of his Epstein ties, the emails came out and revealed, uh-oh. And now we're starting to see the blowback. More emails are getting released and there are a lot of questions. Plus, there's an alleged
Starting point is 00:01:37 list of names, but the Trump administration has released the Epstein name list and a bunch of people on the right have blasted these out saying, here we go. We got the list of names. And it's not a list of anything. It doesn't accuse anybody of anything. Some of these names that are mentioned are in it because it's like, I went to a party at this person's house. And it's completely unrelated to anything related Epstein. But we are seeing people now start to deal with the blowback. And I will
Starting point is 00:02:03 say this, the Epstein files are revealing that I would argue that for the most part, it was all true. And when these prominent elites, when people in the FBI, for instance, people that we We're saying, no, no, there's nothing to see here. There indeed is something to see here. And I got to tell you, when Pam Bondi went to that hearing and was like, but the Dow is at 50,000, I was like, that's great. We're allowed to care about two things at once. Right now we're talking about the children who are being trafficked to an island and not
Starting point is 00:02:32 the economy, which is good. And you at the DOJ have nothing to do with that. So can we now talk about the criminals who are not being held accountable? When I look at this story, I see a guy. he's like 75 years old. What does he really care? Right? But he's part of this massively wealthy family, which includes he's the cousin of Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker. So very weird, very, very weird stuff. And we're talking about that. Plus, the jerky conspiracy theory where in these emails, Epstein's talking about jerky and people are claiming that he's eating people, eating people jerky.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So we'll talk about that. And then probably my favorite slow newsday front page story came from Newsweek, where for seemingly no reason, or probably because there's no news, that he decided to run a story that Trump was going to announce aliens are real. I wonder if that's something to do to the fact that Obama jumped the gun and said aliens are real. There's been this rumor now for the past couple of weeks that Trump is going to hold some kind of press conference or a state of the union address where he says, we have proof that aliens exist or something like that. And Obama then comes out on this liberal podcast, and he goes, yeah, they're real. And maybe he just didn't want Trump to steal his thunder.
Starting point is 00:03:42 But of course, Obama is now walking this back. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we have a bunch of other stories. AOC is getting roasted because she said Venezuela is below the equator, which it isn't. And I wonder if this whole thing that she was doing was an attempt to kind of like show that she had foreign policy chops because she wants to run for president. But she has only indeed shown that she has no idea what she's talking about. So we're going to get into all of that and more, my friends. Before we get up, we got a great sponsor for you.
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Starting point is 00:06:31 You don't want to talk about how you've just been brutally beanie-mogged? Beanie mug. Beanie mogged. Yes, you know what they don't. See, this is what pisses me off, Tim. You act like you don't know what that means. You're jester maxing, and I'm not okay with it, okay, because my cortisol spiking.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I'm not trying to do that. So just admit that you got defeated. I have a more patriotic beanie. Yours is kind of more CCP style. Oh. I mean, you're telling me that you, do you think your beanie is better than my beanie? Yes. Why would you say that?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Okay, let's judge the judge the year. If your beanie is so much better, how come you don't wear it all the time? Well, because it kind of hurts my head. I have a triple XL head, so I didn't fit in it very well. But my point is, look at the bizazaz. Look at the patriotism mind shows. You're hosting a new show or something? After Hours with Alex Don and Real America's Voice. It's incredible. So they got a great D.C. studio. I filmed my show there. It airs tonight right after this show. But you're based in D.C. now?
Starting point is 00:07:25 No, but I was just using their studio because I came on your show. Actually, they built me a studio in Dallas. They do it all remote. It's really great. I love Parker and Robert Sig. They own the company. Parker's Robert's son. and he's like, it's a real family-owned business. That's great. Great to hear. It's good. A lot of people work good. Always glad to have a serious intellect to come on the show.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We're always looking forward to your keen insights. Yeah. How they're eating babies and how they're eating children, and you laughed at me. You laughed at my jerky sleuth thing that I found through Asmond Gold, who has millions of views. But it doesn't matter. They are literally eating the flesh of humans. And I don't think it's a joke. And so I was right about PizzaGate.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I mean, they're all doing child sex trafficking. You know, they call this crazy in 2016. I called into Howard Stern's show. He's like, oh, you're wrong, you're wrong. Boom. Did he apologize to you for me? No, he should. He owes me an apology.
Starting point is 00:08:12 You can look that clip up anywhere. Did he quit or is he still around? He's still around, but he only does. This has got to stop. Two days a week, and he's supposed to be. Well, anyway. Five, isn't he? Elad is here.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Good evening, everybody. I am Alad Eliahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. Alex, good luck in your new ventures. What was the name of the new media company? Real America's voice. They're not that new. Charlie has a show there. Okay, Real American News.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I mean, people sometimes think of One American News Network, because they both have America in it. But, no, they've been out for a while. They're crushing it. Isn't it? Brian Glenn over there, too? Ryan's over there. Yeah, Brian Glenn's an o-G.
Starting point is 00:08:43 He's a man. Yeah, yeah. He's wonderful. Anyway, Phil. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains on Anti-Communist and Counter-Revolutionary. We can go ahead and talk about Alex Steins.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Well, actually, we've got Carter pressing the buttons. Oh, yeah. Look at Carter. What's up, everyone? Carter Banks here. And I'm hanging out and producing the show. Excited to be here. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Let's talk about news because, uh, A man, it's about time. From CNBC, Hyatt Chairman Pritzker leaves board over Epstein ties. Big news from CNBC. They say Pritzker will leave his post as the hotel chain's executive chairman, a role he's held for more than two decades. Immediately, he said in a statement released by the Pritzker organization, the 75-year-old billionaire Hyatt Air said he would not seek reelection to the board at the annual stockholder meeting. My job and responsibilities provide good stewardship.
Starting point is 00:09:30 That is something to me. good stewardship includes ensuring a proper transition at Hyatt. Pritzker said he has regret over his connection to Epstein and his accomplice, Gielaine Maxwell. So we know about what Epstein did, like, you know, the claims. We also know that the media covered it all up, lied about it, suppressed the story, pretended like it wasn't happening, and called us all crazy for suggesting that it was true. Recently released files show Pritzker and Epstein exchanged friendly emails after the disgraced
Starting point is 00:09:57 financier's plea deal, being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos, does not imply any wrongdoing. Thanks for pointing that out, CNBC. Why did you need to say that? See, here's the truth. These powerful individuals were flying run on a plane with underage girls who were supposedly masseuses, but they were actually doing other things. And we've got numerous victims who, and it's funny because there are a lot of Trump supporters that have come out being like, this woman claimed that she never did anything untoward, but now she's claiming she did. And I'm like, yes, is it possible that in 2015 these women didn't want to admit that they were child prostitutes. And now that Epstein's been uncovered and exposed, they're saying, actually,
Starting point is 00:10:35 those claims are all true, and I'm now going to admit it. So I think it's fair to say, certainly, call into question some of the statements. Maybe there's some women trying to cash in on being a victim or whatever. But just read the emails. And look at the conviction. He took a sweetheart plea deal because Epstein was bringing on underage girls to his plane into his island as masseuses, and they were doing, they were hookers. Basically, they were child prostitutes being brought in. So I love how every step of the way, the media has tried to protect these individuals, and I'm not going to cut Trump any slack, because Trump was like, oh, it's a hoax. Now we're reading these emails and we're going like, oh, my. There's videos. Alex, you know, there are videos
Starting point is 00:11:16 of children bathing in the Epstein files. Yeah. And they said, they were like, well, you know, it's uncorroborated. Yeah, it's really weird that Epstein had children come to his island. And there's videos of underage kids. They censored the videos, mind you. But there is a lot of of, let me just, I would describe it as massive piles upon piles of circumstantial evidence, which makes me wonder what hard evidence they're retracting. There was one email that I showed on Twitter where Epstein emailed somebody. We don't know who because they redacted it, and he simply said the word pizza. And is it, is that, is that, I'm sorry, I just have questions about why they redacted the email of a person simply because he said pizza to him.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Now, listen, I'm not going to sit here and say, I know exactly the intent of that email. I don't. But when you redact the recipient's email, then people start saying, why? What about that? Now, I will stress, a lot of the Pizza Gate stuff was, I believe, fake news, people were making. I say fake news in the playful sense, like, not like it was literally fake stories, but people were adding things to it that weren't sure were conjecture. but what is true is that CP is child abuse material and it's referred to as cheese pizza.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So when you have someone like Epstein who is literally convicted of stuff like this, emailing people these terms, you kind of say, I think we know what the intention was in the redaction. But there's plenty more emails. I know that, you know, Alex, you've seen a bunch of it. Well, you know, you're kind of teasing me a little bit because we are talking about jerky. And just you look at the way that they use these emails. they're not talking like they're ordering pizza like they're speaking in clearly coded language so I mean it just looks like it's obvious that they're doing stuff to kids we knew this and then
Starting point is 00:13:06 when you talk about the child porn that's a one thing I think Pambani's told the truth about it saying that there was a ton of child porn and that's why it took so long for them to unredact them so we could see them so yes if you think that you know it's just bad that they were raping kids I don't know if I should say that word sorry they were doing a lot worse with CP and trading that like a currency it's disgusting, but we all know it's true. Let's add an allegedly to that. One of my issues with... What's allegedly? To everything he just said.
Starting point is 00:13:33 You don't need they're trading CP? You don't think they're trading CP? Who is they? Like Epstein to... Hold on. Pam Bondi said they were. Yeah. Pan Bondi said that they had CP. Like tons of it. That's why they were going to release the files. That's exactly what she said.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I think when it comes to the Epstein files, people are running fast and loose with the truth. And that's why people like CNBC feel the... need to say that being part of the release of thousands of documents and photos does not imply any wrongdoing because if you were in if you were even referenced in the files it's a guilt by association and it feels as though there's a witch witch hunt some would argue more deservedly so obviously everybody who is accused or involved in any child abuse should be you know charged and indicted and charged to the fullest extent of the law but I feel like the threshold for that evidence has become lower and lower oh let me let me get wait there's one more thing I want to
Starting point is 00:14:25 to add to there. I play devil's advocate all the time. I'm just surprised that this is the topic that you would like to play devil's advocate on. Bro, it's, it's, listen, like, very weird. No, I want to be no, bro, bro, bro, but my whole thing with Trump was the stop making me defend Trump because they kept lying about him. I have no problem praising Trump. I voted for the guy twice. I want him to succeed, but come on. Trump screwed up. The DOJ screwed this up. The FBI screwed this up. They've done a miserable job on the release of the Epstein files. I will get a, them credit for releasing it now, but Pam Bondi at the hearing being like the Dow is at 50,000. I was nice. A bunch of other people, let me tell you, I know I can get a million views.
Starting point is 00:15:05 If I pound my fist on the hip, one scream, Pam Bondi, you did bad. But I'm trying to be nice because they are still releasing files. But when she comes out and she's like the Dow's at 50,000, I was like, that's really great. Thank you. And now on to the other thing we care about, which two things, We can talk about, you know, we can care about two different things. Well, you do need to mention it dropped below 50,000 literally the next day. Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah, but the point is she's going like, we should be talking about the economy.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It's my response to that. This is the problem. I'm going to criticize Thomas Massey a little bit too, because I'm a big fan of the guy. I consider, I can see, he's my favorite member of Congress, but he's yelling at her saying, we caught you red-handed. And I'm just like, listen, there was ample opportunity to respond to Pam Bondi and just be like, thank you, you know, Secretary of. Bondi is it, she's secretary, right? AG. I'm sorry, Attorney General Bondi.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I appreciate that. It is fantastic work. Thank you. It is true. The economy right now has some great indicators. Now, anyway, we were talking about something specific because the people can be happy about the economy and upset about the Epstein trafficking stuff too. I mean, I would hope that the DOJ has started at least investigations on these people,
Starting point is 00:16:15 like the people that are accused. Because if they have the files that are non-redacted, right, they should be. building cases to go and prosecute. You know, that's kind of like where we're at now. It's like there's there's all kinds of talk about who is and isn't in the file, files and stuff, but it's like look, the DOJ's job
Starting point is 00:16:32 is to prosecute people for wrongdoing. So if they have the names, they should be building cases and they should be looking to arrest people. Yeah, but it's really not that hard. I mean, you look at Les Wexner, it's the guy that gave him the residence in New York. Like, if they don't charge him, which I know now they're saying they open up an investigation, I don't think anybody's
Starting point is 00:16:49 going to go to jail because he was basically, he was right-hand man or Jeffrey was his right-hand man if you want to use that analogy. And I think that he would have blood on his hand. So if he does not go down, if we don't perp walk at least Les Wexner, and this is all alleged, I don't want to get sued by him, but it looks like his connection to Epstein is indisputable. I do think there's a lot of insanity. You know, there are people who are making the craziest claims imaginable based on the lightest of conjecture. A good example of what I'm trying to say is the easiest example that I brought several times. One of the Epstein files
Starting point is 00:17:21 comes from a phone tip to the FBI. A woman claiming she was a victim of sex trafficking and she was 13 when she was trafficking and she was on the island when Tony Hawk got married. The only issue is Tony Hawk didn't get married on the island. It seems to be a fabricated story to the FBI. Did he go out of the island at all? No.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Like Tony Hawk is so far removed from Epstein. It's ludicrous. So what happened is there's an action sports photographer whose name is Mark Epstein, completely unrelated to Jeffrey. Jeffrey has a brother named Mark Epstein. And so when Tony Hawk got married in Fiji, Mark Epstein, the action sports photographer,
Starting point is 00:17:53 was taking photos of it. This is Getty Images. And apparently this was on MTV at the time. Someone presumably saw this, assumed Mark Epstein, who took the photos, was related to Jeffrey, and then thought they could lie
Starting point is 00:18:05 and claim Tony Hawk was there and the FBI would buy it. Something like that. And so now there are these articles flying around saying Tony Hawk caught with underage traffic evicted. It's completely fake. And that I can respect when there was concerns about releasing all the files because there would be this kind of blowback on innocent people completely unrelated.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Amy Schumer is in the files. So in the list of names that the DOJ dropped, Amy Schumer is one of them. Amy Schumer named in the Epstein files. She probably would eat a kid, but I mean, that's just saying. Yeah, but that's more of her eating disorder. Yeah, she's just hungry. Yeah. She's just hungry.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I do think it's a little bit of a liability. She did Ozzympic, though, didn't she? for the president with Howard Lutnik, as far as he goes, Secretary of Commerce, I believe, because he denied, he said that he cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein, but then after he alleged to have cut ties, he visited Epstein Island again, allegedly. With his family. And this was after 2008 when he was convicted of a few different, I believe he was given a sweetheart deal in Florida, but it was well known after 2008, the 2008 conviction that
Starting point is 00:19:09 he was involved in these sort of crimes against children. He had 700 employees die in 9-11, and he happened to not be at work that. What do you mean? Like, was he supposed to be? He might have prior knowledge. You know, was he supposed to be it? Yeah, yeah. He had a company who was 700.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yes, but doesn't mean he was there every day, just like Larry Silverson. Like, he showed up every day. Did you imagine if it was like a Sunday here? I'm like, I'm not here. And then like the building burned out. Like, how strange Tim wasn't at work that day? I'm like, well, I'm only. I'm just asking questions.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I don't know. Did he get a text message from somebody saying these towers are going to go down? I don't know. But I do know that Condoleza Lice and George Bush were both brief that there's a guy in Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden that wanted a play. planes in the buildings, but maybe he got that brief. I don't know, but he was not at work that day. Let's jump to this story to appease our friend Alex Stein. This is from Times Now News, Epstein jerky, what it means and how it fueled cannibalism and ritualistic sacrifice claims.
Starting point is 00:19:59 The U.S. Department of Justice released more than three million documents recently in which a 2019 interview between FBI officials and anonymous man speaks about ritualistic sacrifice aboard Epstein's yacht in 2000. They say when the DOJ released more than three million records, blah, blah, the trove quickly became fodder. We get it. The one about ritualistic sacrifice. The most graphic allegations appear in summaries of a reported 2019 interview. In one version of the interview, an agent concluded the claims did not warrant further investigative resources. The DOJ files also note that the man did not allege cannibism during the interview, though he claimed the individuals consumed human feces. The FBI declined to comment when asked why the allegations were not
Starting point is 00:20:37 pursued. Despite that, the words cannibal and cannibalism appear dozens of times elsewhere in the document collection. A search of the Epstein library shows 52 mentions of cannibalism, and six of cannibalism, according to Snopes. None of those references, however, connect Epstein's to cannibalistic acts. Some appear in unrelated context, media summaries, academic syllabus. We don't need to include those. But there was a conversation about eating jerky, and Alex believes that is a reference to people. I know it is. Why? Because they cannot say this. That's why they use coded language. Obviously, they don't, they can't just be in the email. What did they say? That 13-year-old girl tasted so good, yum, they're not going to say that. But the way that they talked about jerky
Starting point is 00:21:14 in these emails, there's an email where it's like, oh yeah, he's going to stop eating so much jerky and start eating regular food again. You just got to go through the emails. I mean, you can take my word. Do you think Ellen DeGeneres is a cannibal? Probably, yes. Actually, pull up Ellen DeGeneres. Do you think they found a code word for human meat? Wait, what? I hope you were feeling better. Did we analyze the jerky? Why didn't we get jerky this week? I also added more to the jerky in ginger lemon grass. Thank you so much, super cool. Beef jerky, delicious.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Jojo is here and we'll walk the jerky over to Jeffrey. We'll walk the jerky over to Jeffrey. Why would jerky walk around? Why would it do that? Delicious lunch, beef jerky. Steve and I are very grateful above all for your friendship. Some of these emails are so wholesome, aren't they? It's too bad they eat kids.
Starting point is 00:22:09 A small insulated bag would be fine. I don't ruin checking it. No need for crazy amounts of ice. One should do. There is one bag of beef jerky in the fridge. Please get it. Also, Blank has more at her place. Please get it from her as well.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I suppose it needs to be in a cold, insulated bag. Just wanted to touch base about jerky. J.E. said he was going to start eating regular food again, so he might be eating less jerky. He said he has six bags of it in the downstairs freezer. Why would you freeze jerky? Steve needs a six to eight ounce portion of jerky. I gave you all the jerky we had, and it lasted only half the amount of time it was meant to.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I felt like it was more important for you to have the jerky. It sounds like they're eating people, bro. Yes! Yes! Listen to the last one. He's like, oh, I thought it'd be more important for you to have the jerky than me. If it's just normal jerky, you go to CVS, you can buy unlimited jacklings beef jerky. So why is it more important for that person to have it unless it's some sort of fair commodity?
Starting point is 00:23:06 And I know that. Here's the email. They redacted the two and from. Why did they redact it? J.E. said he was going to start eating regular food again, so he might be eating less jerky. Why is it illegal to send an email about jerky, answer that question? Is it a crime to say?
Starting point is 00:23:17 If I send you an email about jerky, would they redact that? No. But it's because the FBI knows they're talking about children. And so they're not going to be like, oh, man, that's hot, hold on. This is your smoking gun. It's pathetic. This is like a pathetic. We don't need a smoking gun because there's people like Jimmy Seville, and I know that they do. It's called SRA, Satanic, Realistic Abuse.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Here, wait, wait, hold on. Here's another one. We have no idea where it came from. It was into Epstein. Francis has time to come to come to. tomorrow to show me how to make it. Jerky class, anyone? He will also bring you a taste of his new jerky recipe from the restaurant and sends a
Starting point is 00:23:47 warm hello. He's working at a restaurant called Cannibal and Cooks. Wait for it. Beef, jerky and steak. He has time at 3 p.m. tomorrow if it's okay with you. Tim, these sounds like they could be your emails about beef jerky.
Starting point is 00:24:00 They do not. They do not sound like his emails, dude. There's enough there to make people be like, what's going on here? To be honest. Sure, it's an odd email exchange. But I don't know if this is indicative of child sacrifice. Maybe I'm the moron. Okay, think about how prevalent abortion is.
Starting point is 00:24:16 We know that Planned Parenthood has been caught. There's been people from Planned Parenthood caught with, you know, baby parts. So there is a, whether you want to believe it or not, there is a black market for dead baby parts, babies, dead bodies. And, you know, China, I'm not saying they're into it, but they also, like, supposedly, you know, get hostages and they'll take a liver. Like, you can buy a heart in China. You can't do that here in America. There was an FBI interview of one of the. purported. Hey Ontario!
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Starting point is 00:25:39 He was a victim of a type of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet were cut with a scimitar but left no scarring. On the Audi witness, babies being dismembered their intestine removed individuals eating the feces from these intestines. It was also raped by George Bush One. These are all, I mean, these are just allegations from a... If they admit that they would eat human feces, you don't think they would eat human meat? These are alleged. Wait, wait, wait. This is alleged from an interview.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Well, they said... Our redacted name says, Rachel, the people on the island are telling me, Jeffrey didn't like the last batch of jerky that Steve sent to him. not sure if it's too late to stop the shipment. Why would you need to stop the shipment if it's beef jerky that you can get at the grocery store? Because it's special jerky. Tim knows you could get special jerky. I've had Tim's special jerky. No, you have not.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Dude, shut up, Alad. You've not had any jerky with Tim Pool. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. I think we have kangaroo jerky in there. And then Tim complains, no, this jerky sucks. Stop that shipment. Stop that shipment. We don't want more of that shitty jerky jerky jerky.
Starting point is 00:26:34 No, no, no, no, hold on. The exotic turkey that I have is from Western Maryland. when I went to a, there's like this lake, and there was a jerky store that sold a whole bunch of different kinds of jerky. Not one of which was human children, in fact, but they did have a good variety. Okay, just because they're eating children doesn't mean that jerky doesn't also exist. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, what if they're not eating children, though?
Starting point is 00:26:56 It sounds like they're eating something untoward. It may be people, I don't know. But the issue that I take is, I think it's fair to say this is weird. They're doing something. But when you jump the gun and say they're eating children, it makes people think you're nuts. What if I told you that everybody in this room has eaten human beings before? You're going to say that's impossible, but in meat processing plants, they've went and tested the meat, and there has been issues where there's human DNA in it.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Because, like, somebody cut their hand or something and got in the meat. Or because, like, a guy named Juan who's supposed to clean the vat trips and falls. Yeah, exactly, sweat. It's what I'm saying. So in a way, we've all eaten human. In a way. If you think long and harder. You ever hear the story about the guy, there was like a tuna vat and he went inside to clean it out?
Starting point is 00:27:35 No, and the other guy pressed the button and closed it and cooked him alive, and he Oh, intentionally, he was just murder. No, it was accidental. Oh, it was an accident. Yeah, you were cooked, yeah. Cooked alive. The big. So, so, again, like, what if, what if they're like, it is weird when they say they're
Starting point is 00:27:49 going to walk the jerky because you can't, you know what I mean? I think they meant they walk the bag of jerky. What does it mean that he's going to start eating? Right, right. I'm going to walk the jerky over like I'm carrying it. Like, Tim, I'll bring you, I'll walk the jerky over to you. Yeah. We just got an order for you.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah, I'll walk it over to Tim. Yeah. And then Tim doesn't want more of the shipment of jerky because he didn't like the jerky. Yeah, because if they put celery salt or like fennel on it, get it out of here with that. And what about the weird email where it says, oh, he's going to start eating regular food. As if in the email is like, oh, he's going to start eating less jerky and more regular. Well, I will give some pushback because I had a period where I literally ate nothing but chicken wings for like six months. That was when you were doing keto.
Starting point is 00:28:26 It's a little different. No, I mean, I was literally like I could have eaten a lot of other things, but I just really wanted to eat chicken wings. Chicken wings. They're delicious. Well, like the big, I mean, go ahead, Phil. Well, it's just that. that like, I just want to reiterate it. Like, at this point, there's enough
Starting point is 00:28:41 information here where they need to start finding these people that are making the allegations, interviewing them, and looking to see if they can press charges. Wait, wait, hold on. Here's an important one for Elad. Beef jerky is drying another hour or so until it's finished. What is the best way to get it to you? One of the children that we cut up
Starting point is 00:28:57 to make the jerky... Maybe he was having that South African, the bull-tong, where you need to leave it out to cure and dry. I'm just imagining, like, how funny. it would be if on Epstein's Island there's like a gigantic gigantic, like a gigantic, like legitimate beef jerkies. And then it's like Alex is screaming, it's children.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And the people from Epstein Island are like, you have no idea the recipes. Okay, what about this? Yeah, I could make that movie. You orders 200 gallons of sulfuric acid. You don't think that's weird? Oh, bro, that was for dissolving people. Yeah, what do you think that's for? One of the, one of the FI files talked about there were two dead women buried on
Starting point is 00:29:31 this ranch because apparently what happened was, and this is, come on, look, when you go to people and you say, jerky sounds like they're eating people. They're like, man, I don't know. That sounds crazy. But what do we know for a fact? Epstein was convicted for hiring underage girls as masseuses but having them do sexual things. One of the tips was that there were two women that were hired for sexual favors. And they were, when they were doing them, Epstein and whoever else was strangling them at
Starting point is 00:29:58 same time and they died. They panicked and then buried the women on some ranch property. That is entirely believable based on what we do know. about Epstein. No, give me wrong. You can believe the stuff about the jerky and all these other crazy things. But I'm saying, like, if you go to someone and say, Epstein was convicted for hiring underage prostitutes. And in one of the files, they allege two of them died during rough sex, and then Epstein and his accomplices buried the bodies. So when you hear about them buying, what was it, 200 gallons of sulfuric acid? And what did they bring it to the island?
Starting point is 00:30:30 I think he ordered it to the island, if I remember correct. And you have to wonder why someone needs a private island in the first place. And it's because Ain't nobody coming to investigate on your private island. And here's the other thing, the important thing to understand. When you bring a young woman to your island, she's not going to say no because of the implication. Well, and then you know they say, and I don't want to make it. That was a reference, anybody who got it.
Starting point is 00:30:53 If you don't get the reference, then do you? No, I didn't. Well, everyone in the chat's going to understand the reference. Well, what I'm saying is... The implication. I don't know if I don't get in. The implication? You bring a woman onto the middle of the ocean.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yes. And you ask something of her, and she has to say yes because of the implication. Because she's out in the middle of nowhere? The implication is that you're going to kill her. Oh, okay. Well, you probably would. You know, and I'm just saying this, now they're saying you've got to look into Richard Branson, because he has an island, N-E-K-K-E-R, I don't want to get canceled for that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And I'm not saying he's eating kids out there, but it's called Virgin Island, and then a bunch of celebrities go out there. Virgin Island? You know, virgin, he owns Virgin. So what are you saying? They're not eating a bunch of kids out there, but what are you saying? You're not saying that, but what are you saying? I'm not saying that they're not eating kids. You know, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I want to give a shout out. I want to give like a half shout out, half marks to Virgin Airlines or whatever. Was it Virgin Atlantic or something? Because I flew on them one time. And you know how they do the safety briefing. In the safety bring for Atlantic, they literally went, if you don't know how to put on your seatbelt, something is wrong with you. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And I started laughing and I was like, that's great. And then I guess they changed it later because the insurance company or something was like legit. You have to tell them to do this. Because there were probably people like who didn't know how to put in a seatbelt. But shout out to Atlantic for assuming general intelligence and common sense, I guess. Overstating it, I guess. Overstating it indeed. I think as far as a lot of this, the Epstein stuff goes, it's hard to blame people for wanting to add on all these additional maybe conspiracies onto the Epstein stuff because originally so many people overpromised and underdelivered on this story.
Starting point is 00:32:38 So many people in positions of power did this. So for example, before Cash Patel was the director of the FBI, he used to come on shows like this and bitch about the Epstein stuff and say how there were all of these lists out there. And then Jeffrey Epstein, inside the jail, is able to kill himself. You know, and then they've removed parts of the file watching over and... Aside from the killing himself part, like, Greg... Well, we don't even know that he killed himself.
Starting point is 00:33:01 No, no, but hold on. Aside from that, that was, you know, a misstep by the FBI. But, like, doesn't the release of the files kind of vindicate? all the other stuff they were saying that like all this nefarious things well no because uh move there's a few other things pan bondi bringing in a bunch of influencers to making them look like a bunch of idiots like they were getting new stuff but but no because they over promised on so much so because they said oh there's this gigantic pedophile ring and then there's a list of people and it wasn't only geoffrey epstein who was procuring underage women with galane max while they were using this and filming you know famous and influential people to use this as blackmail not a lot of that stuff came to fruition but because so much was overpromised and underdelivered
Starting point is 00:33:38 It's hard to blame people for thinking there's more there there. I'm going to jump to this story. Gieland Maxwell is an imposter. You've heard the story that Epstein is alive, perhaps. Maybe you believe it. Maybe you don't. But the latest story is Gieland Maxwell recently gave a deposition. We have this from the New York Post.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Watch Gieland Maxwell's prison video to Congress when pressed on Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. And people decided to just, I don't know, take a look at her face. And they found out that she apparently got a nose. fattening job. Yeah. Because when you look at a picture of Gieland Maxwell in the public and you compare it to the image of the Gileman Maxwell in prison, you're like, okay, that's a completely different nose. It's much wider and bigger. And it's a little bit more snub than Gieland Maxwell's nose nose that we saw in the past. So the question is, did she get a nose job to make her nose bigger? I did not know that was a thing. Maybe it is. I mean, you can say that she gained weight,
Starting point is 00:34:30 but that the nose doesn't really change. I think that's a mask. I think they just put another person. They have one of those latex masks. And that's why she pleaded the first. And that's why she pleaded the Fifth. Exactly. Wait, wait, let's play the video. Oh, wait, where's the audio with? Everything's muted. Respectfully declined to answer this question and any related questions.
Starting point is 00:34:52 My habeas petition is pending. Look, they put a really fat person next to make her look thinner. She does look fat. I know, but look, they put an morbidly obese woman next to her to make her look a little skin. Wasn't her dad, like an Israeli agent or something? Robert Maxwell. Yes, dude. He was a media tycoon.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Owned a bunch of different business. and never officially said that he was part of Israeli's Besad. But when he died, you can look it up, they gave him an official, like he was a diplomat, like he was the highest level of their military. You know, that was a sort of send-off they gave him for his family. Oh, it's on his Wikipedia page. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:24 So he never admitted that he worked for Israel, but they gave him an official. He was Israeli. Yes, but I'm saying he never admitted that he was an aide. Oh, wow. They say he was buried on Jerusalem's Mount. Okay, hold on, hold on. Yeah, yes, dude, yes. He got the most significant burial you can get.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Robert Maxwell, media proprietor, they said, say he was barren in Jerusalem's Mount of Olives and what has been described as a state funeral attended by much of the Israeli political establishment, including the president, prime minister, and six serving and former heads of intelligence. His death triggered the collapse of his published empire, blah, blah, blah. Well, there you go. This is her dad. Yes, so she's independently wealthy. Oh yeah, look at that. Look at that. Look at this picture of Gilemax. Look at this picture of her. She looks so different in all of these photos. That is true. Unrecognizable. That's not the same person, bro. Yeah, that picture on the left and the mugshot look the same, but then the other one.
Starting point is 00:36:12 All three of these are different people in my eyes. I don't see any resemblance. Well, this is probably going to get me canceled a little bit, but they've seen. Do you think she looks nice here? No, there's one where she's a lot younger. It's like she's in her 20s, like where she's at these 80s parties. And Galane actually used to be hot. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Same with Hillary Clinton. I don't know if Hillary Clinton was ever hot. Well, you think Galen Maxwell's hot, but not Hillary Clinton? No, no, no. Hillary Clinton was a lot hotter than Galane Maxwell, than a younger. No way. This is a point that you're never going to get up. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Elad, chill, chill.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Alex is saying is he likes Jewish ladies. Kind of, she looks here. She does look like a nice Jewish woman there. It's unfortunate that she's such like a pedophilic creep that procured young children for Jeffrey Epstein. But hold on, like, could you see this picture of this woman? Could you imagine, I'm just like for everybody out there, some friend of yours that went to high school with?
Starting point is 00:37:00 And then 20 years later, you find out that they like ate people? Gross. You're like, hey, remember Janet from high school? Yeah, she ate people. Chrissy Teigen said on that show she wanted to eat human meat. So what show? She was being interviewed. Yes, you could look it up, type in Chrissy Teigen, human meat.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And she makes his joke, like, would you ever eat human? And this other guy's like, no. And she's like, wasn't there a CNN reporter who ate? Yeah, Reza Aslan. He's a cannibal. Yeah. So here's Evan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Hold on, hold on. I got a question. I got a question. I got a question. Reza Aslan, they were trying to be like vice on CNN. So he went to this, like, Hindu extremist sect, and they were cooking human meat. And they handed him a piece. piece of it, and then he was apparently scared that he didn't eat it, they were going to kill him or something.
Starting point is 00:37:42 So he ate the piece of human, it was like a small piece of human brain. And then I said he's a cannibal. Yeah. I say he's a cannibal. And I had a friend, I had a friend who told me he's not a cannibal. A cannibal is someone who like regularly eats people. And then I said, why does that not make him a cannibal? Because like he did it one time. And I said, so if a dude like rapes a kid one time he's not a pedophile? Well, that's different. No. Reza Oslan is a cannibal. He ate people. That's it. You eat people one time. You were a cannibal forever. I don't know that Gilein Maxwell ate anybody. Okay? I don't know that Jeffrey Epstein ate anybody. Those emails sound very, very weird, but I just want to point this out, guys, guys, I'm sorry if this makes me sound
Starting point is 00:38:25 conspiratorial. But when I pull up this picture of Geline Maxwell from her mugshot and then the picture of the woman in that jail, that is a different. person. That is a different person. And you saw Daily Mail put out the article that they used decoys when they got rid of his body from the federal prison. They admitted that to trick the press for seemingly no reason, they stuffed a body bag full of boxes and cardboard and stuffed in pillows to make it look like a body was being removed. Makes no sense. It literally makes no sense. Yeah, so, I mean, could he still be alive? I don't know. It's so funny. They did a ditch magazine, not even trying to shout them out. They looked into the FedEx account through
Starting point is 00:39:02 the leaked emails and there is a FedEx account linked to Jeffrey Epstein that has been getting packages and you can chat you. Remember Imposter Hillary? Imposter Hillary? Yeah, you guys remember that? No. No. There was let me see if I can try and find it. There was a picture of Hillary Clinton allegedly with Bill Clinton
Starting point is 00:39:19 it's probably going to be hard to find. And everybody went nuts on X being like, yo, that's not Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton body double claim. See if we can find that photo. It's hard to find. It was, uh, this was probably like 2019 or something. I can't find it.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Maybe, maybe someone else will find that on X or something. Tweeted Eddie a lot, I suppose. Well, I think if you're... Did you see her coming out against like the, our immigration policies saying like, yeah, and it was detrimental to our society or something? Disruptive and destabilizing. So she's becoming pretty base. So she might have been hot 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:53 To be honest with you, she was, she was against illegal immigration in 2008, and then she was for it. And now she's against it again. Very John Kerry asked. I think it was. Yeah, and I mean, her husband was a border guy. Yeah. Maybe the Clinton's got a bad rep.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Well, I mean, not going too far. Wait, wait, we forget. Bill Clinton was all over the EPSC files, by the way. It's all because of polling. Their internal polling shows that the illegal immigration stuff is super unpopular. Multiple Democrats have pivoted on this because of the fact that their internal polling is absolutely catastrophic about this stuff. Americans do not want the border open and they don't want illegal aliens coming to the country
Starting point is 00:40:30 and voting and stuff. So there's actually a bar. bunch of these. Like this from 2016. Hillary definitely has a body double, 10. Well, every world leader does. Okay, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:40:39 When we talk about like Joe Biden having a body double or Hillary Clinton having a body double, the media says you're a crazy conspiracy theorist. Then they say, Saddam Hussein like five. Vladimir Putin has like seven. He had more than five. But if you were a world leader,
Starting point is 00:40:51 world leader, wouldn't you want a body double? Yes. Yes. Because people are trying to kill you. You know what I mean? That's why every night after the show, Eli doesn't understand this. but I ask him if he wants to wear my shirt and wear the beanie,
Starting point is 00:41:03 just to make him feel better. He's like, thank you, Tim. And then he walks out in front of me. I walk 20 feet behind him. This guy thinks anybody can confuse me for him. Well, I did ask a lot if he was a skater, and he was like, no, I don't skate. And he does kind of copy your swag a little bit. I just want to, he's kind of swagger jacking you a little.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So you should probably put swag in my copying. Tim has your swag. I love this post from R slash conspiracy. This is not the same person. I'm sorry. That is not the same person. That is not the same person. Very different.
Starting point is 00:41:30 the jaw line is very different. The chin might be the same. Sheeks are like, they're like, let's find some old fat lady and give her short black hair and call her Geelaine and they're like, that'll work. Look up the mask. It's like super realism mask. You can see them. So they can do that.
Starting point is 00:41:44 They can make us look like Walter White. They don't need to. Bro, yes, you're right, but they don't need to. They can literally just take some random lady. I don't know. You want a million bucks? I think a skinny Chinese woman under there. I can just tell by the way. I can just tell. In a fat suit? This is not the same person.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It's not. I don't get it because I like you know what? I take that back. I get it. They'll get away with it. Of course they will.
Starting point is 00:42:10 They do stuff all the time and then what? I mean, well, who's going to do anything about it? Right. You know, like us?
Starting point is 00:42:16 You know what I think? You know what I think is? You know what I hope? I hope it's just the alien thing is real. You know what it'd be really funny. Like you heard about Obama, right? And he was like,
Starting point is 00:42:25 oh, aliens are real? Yeah. And I hope that like what happened was he gets asked by Brian and Tyler Cohen if aliens he says yes. And then I imagine he gets home in his phone rings and it's like one of the lizard
Starting point is 00:42:34 people being like, you made a mistake. And he's like, oh, I'm sorry, sir, let me, let me, let me, let's talk about a tweet right now. Well, you know why they want the fake alien invasion, right?
Starting point is 00:42:43 Fake alien invasion? To unify all the countries under a globalist government. That's exactly right. You know, predictive programming, right? Well, of course. That's why they made the Watchmen movie. There's a lot of movies like that.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You know, there's a lot of movies are predicting 9-11, but you know, it is what it is. A lot of cartoons as well. My favorite conspiracy theory is that the Titanic was built, created on purpose to be sunk. Oh, that's true. That's true. That was an insurance. They got the, well, no, it was an insurance scam. It was to kill off all the billionaires to create a bunch of dead money so they could create the Federal Reserve.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Well, that was part of it too. But the other boat, it was like the Olympic actually was in an accident and started listing a little bit. So they actually sunk the Olympic and put the Titanic and put the Titanic. There was a book. Yeah, but they put the Olympic badge on the Titanic. Do you know about the book before the Titanic that was literally the story of the Titanic? What was insurance for all? And it was about the Titan. So the theory is that somebody wrote a book in the 1800s. A bunch of powerful people said, we need to create a central bank. How do we do it?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Well, we need lots of capital to do it. Okay, you get a bunch of rich people in a boat. They all die. They have no heirs. And now you have a bunch of dead money what to do with it. You create a central bank, a central reserve. How do you get rid of all these people? Put them on a big boat and sink it, just like in that book.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And J.P. Morgan Chase did not get on the boat, you know. No, he was too busy planning his next trip. years later to Jekyll Island. Well, all I'm saying is if you look into the conspiracy about Titanic, it's very weird. It does look like it's, I mean, the boat that still lasted, I think it's called the Olympia or the Olympic, it was an identical boat except for like one hole. I mean, it was from the naked eye, you couldn't even count that it had less one hole, like one less room or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I want to point one other thing out too with this image, like Asmond Gold. It's not, it's not, it's not, someone didn't take the screenshot of Geelaine Maxwell's faces. They took a screenshot of Asmond Gold's YouTube channel with him looking surprised. It's the ubiquity of Asmond Gold. So, you know, congratulations. He's great. He's one of the, I mean, he's the top streamer on Twitch now. He's no clavicular, but.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I don't know. All right, everybody, here's the big news. We've got this from Newsweek. Trump is going to announce aliens are real. Newsweek, I love this. You know, you know, it's a slow newsday. Newsweek ran this as their, like, second lead article. Trump UFO announcement rumors persist online what we know.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And I'm going to stress this. Instead of starting off the article with, there is no evidence to suggest this is true. This is an online rumor with no basis. They started by saying, rumors that President Donald Trump is planning a major speech about unidentified flying objects has been growing online since claims published in early February
Starting point is 00:45:13 suggested a major revelation may be imminent. Mark Christopher Lee, a British writer, filmmaker, and euphologist, said in a Monday email in Parts Newsweek, quote, A Washington insider I have known personally and conducted business with has repeatedly affirmed that President Trump has prepared a historic speech acknowledging extraterrestrial visitation and the existence of recovered non-human materials and craft. Newsweek has not verified the claims. So here's the trick. The way they format their news articles makes you get all excited and hot and bothered.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And then you've got to scroll way down to where it says like, well, you know, it's probably not true. The unnamed source is saying this and there's no evidence. to this. There's no evidence of plan speech, all at the bottom of the article. But hold on. This story has persisted for some time. Take a look at this from TMZ. Trump knows about extraterrestrial life forms, says the age of disclosure director, November 2025. Obama being jealous says aliens are real. You guys saw this Washington Post reporting, aliens are real Obama says as Washington shrugs. The former president appeared to confirm decades old conspiracy theories, but then he walked back his podcast comments.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Here's the funniest thing. A former president of the United States went on a big podcast and said, aliens are real, and no one cared. No one cared. This is the test, the trial balloon, to where now they actually could announce aliens are real.
Starting point is 00:46:37 And people will be like, yeah, we get it, whatever. Yeah, I mean, well, this has been something that's been brewing for a couple years now, right? Like, they, the, ever since they stopped calling them UFOs and started calling him UAPs, there were people that were saying, well, you know, there are UAPs and the government saying,
Starting point is 00:46:54 but they are our UAPs and, you know, we don't know. Can we just get to the real story already? Can we, can we, can we, can we, the real conspiracy? What? You know why. Obama said on that show that aliens are real, right? He wanted to get good odds on the Kalshi betting markets? No.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Truth maxing? No. It's because, uh, the, the, the Kibal Deep State called him up before the show and said this Epstein stuff is really, really bad. Please say. something to distract people from it. It's annoying that you're being sarcastic, but it probably is, I'm not being sarcastic. Like, they're going to roll out the fake alien invasion when they need it the most, and they probably do feel a lot of heat right now. I mean, I would love to hear
Starting point is 00:47:33 the justification. Like, I would love to know the information that they're, you know, they say, hey, you know, we're going to do, we're going to announce that there are aliens. I would love to hear how they got here, because as of right now, all the science that we know says that you can't travel faster than the speed of light, so I would love to see. Well, if they did exist, they'd have to live, like, in the ocean. That wouldn't make them aliens there. That's what they say, like, they'll come out from the inner earth if, like, they're aliens, like, they live in a different part of the earth than us.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Have you seen that movie with, um, what's your, who's that chick with the weird mouth? Emma Stone. Okay. Weird mouth. Yeah, she, like, talks like this, like, her mouth is kind of weird. Uh, she did that movie. It's actually really funny where this, like, right-wing conspiracy nut kidnaps her. him and his buddy because they think she's an alien.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You didn't see it? Oh, yes. I heard it's good. I haven't seen it. I actually heard it's really good. Should I not spoil it then? No, I think you can. No, nobody gives you.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I think I understand it. So it's really funny because the bulk of the movie, you're just like, this whack-a-loon conspiracy guy is nuts. He's like, you're an alien and I cut your hair off so you can't communicate with the aliens. And I've covered you in an antihistamine cream. And she's like, what? Because she's like the CEO of a chemical company. And then only in the last five minutes,
Starting point is 00:48:46 does like she escapes the guy he gets killed the police come and they're like thanks god you're okay then she flees from jumps out of the ambulance runs into her office into her weird secret you know I don't want to reveal too much and then transports to outer space where earth is flat and in with a firmament and she's like I'm sorry I couldn't communicate they'd taken my hair and then taken my hair and then she's like it's time to end the earth and then she pops the firmament and then all the humans just die very morbid end Yeah, that was good. That was good. Because I kind of thought it was going to be this like, we get it, right wing, whackaloons are nuts. And it was just going to be making fun of Trump and like the right or something. But then it turns out the guy was right the whole time and actually was capturing aliens. I thought it was funny. It was a nice twist. Well, I mean, yeah, it was kind of obvious. It was going to go one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I mean, that is why conspiracies exist. I mean, like you did say, like people can misinterpret information and kind of, you know, fib some, you know, exaggerate. But there's always some, it's always based in some sort of truth somewhere. There's some sort of evidence. you know, or else just people wouldn't believe it at all. What do you mean some sort of evidence, though? Like there's past people that have eaten people like Jimmy Seville. There are a cannibal. So like the idea. There has to be a morsel of truth. Yeah, there has to be something truthful.
Starting point is 00:49:59 So when it comes to the Epstein files. The conspiracy theorists. Like, how about this? If I said that the earth was actually a bowl, it was actually a bowl, not flat, no ice wall, it's actually lightly curved convex. And that holds all the water in. And it's very slight.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's very slight. And sometimes there's tsunamis because if the bull tilts, the water rushes over. No, like, you might get some people to believe something like that, but the reason why that's not a prominent conspiracy theory is that flat earth actually has some prehistory. Yeah. That is, the Bible describes the firmament and the upper oceans and things like this. And so you start with the basic truth of you experience the earth as if it were flat as far as you know. Then you can start to guide people's certain direction and trick them.
Starting point is 00:50:46 and then wrap them up in crazier and crazier lies. I think that's fair. But what I'm saying is, to my exact point, there is some truth to that Epstein was doing weird stuff with kids, you know, prime ministers of countries. He went to jail for it. Yeah. And so what we know is, I mean, come on, you got a guy who we have women who are like,
Starting point is 00:51:08 yes, literally he was hiring us as underage girls. You know how the story broke, right? how they actually got prosecuted? When he was first arrested? Two underage girls, like high school girls, got into a fight. And then after the fight broke out, they searched the girls and found a bunch of cash. And they said, where did you get this money? And she was like, I got paid by some guy to, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's a Netflix documentary. Is that how they, they, yeah. That's what happened. You had the mom, the kid had like $500. The mom's like, how do you have $500? And she just told her mom, and then her mom went to the cops. Yep. And then Epstein got cut.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Now, you think that was the only time you ever did it? Of course not. Right. Right. And right. So anyway, more to the point is, do you think he was being directed by aliens to do it? Well, you might have thought they were aliens because, you know, there's Alistair Crowley. Some of these people, they do practice satanic rituals. Do you know? I mean, you could argue, like, they're demons that they're... Alex, yes. Do you know about the Ananaki? Of course. They created the Earth, dude. Why did they create the Earth? They were making human hybrids, and they actually created the white race.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Why? Why were they making the hybrids? What's the leader's name again? What was the Yakub? No, that's not Ananaki. You're wrong. You're talking about black Hebrew nationalism or Israel. Black Hebrew Israelites maybe? Yeah, so the Ananaki live on a planet, Nibiru,
Starting point is 00:52:28 and it has an elliptical orbit with the sun of 2,500 years, which means for a short period, it travels around our sun and it gets warm. But after it leaves, it starts getting colder, and for thousands, two thousand years, it's going to be very, very cold. So the intelligent alien race, the Ananaki, used gold particles in their atmosphere to create a greenhouse effect to reflect heat back in. So what they did was when they came around into the solar system and saw Earth, they started creating a hybrid slave race so that they would mine gold for them and value it so that the Ananaki could use the gold. Unfortunately, the first slave race they created was too smart. understood the nature of the universe, and so rejected the rule of the slaves and said no.
Starting point is 00:53:14 So the Ananaki said, we need to make a stupider race. Smart enough to do any task, but not smart enough to understand the nature of reality. And then they created humans. And then the humans were like, gold is good and gold and silver we love. And that's one of the conspiracy theories about what the aliens are. And the funny thing is, in the past like 15 or 20 years, the people who believe this particular theory, and I'm sure there's like a million different versions of the same theory, argued that we entering the next era when the bureau would return and they would come back and start controlling
Starting point is 00:53:46 the politics of the earth so that they could start taking a lot of our gold. And then the best part about this is it's far-fetched lunacy nonsense, but you can jigsaw puzzle piece it together to make it make sense like all the gold in Fort Knox is presumed to be missing around the time, you know. There's a kernel of truth. Exactly. Well, is it missing? Do they admit that it's all missing? Well, there's a conspiracy. I know that's a conspiracy, but. But then you mix all the conspiracies together and there you go. The guy in charge of the Ananaku's name was Marduk. Well, there you go, Marduk. He assigns the Anakia their
Starting point is 00:54:18 position. And there's a metal band called Marduk now. Black metal band. But Yakub was real. Like what you said is not real. Yeah. Or whatever that is. He was a black guy who created white people to be evil. Yeah. Yeah, okay, dude. The white people, if you would argue, they are the most evil, though. Why is that? Well, they're the smartest, so they can do the most tricks, you know. What does that mean? I don't know, bro, I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Have you ever gone skiing? Yeah, I have gone skiing. And, like, people put thousands of dollars in ski equipment, they just put it on the ground and walk away and then come back an hour later. It's because it's all white people are good. It's true. Yeah. Well, I don't know that it's because they're all white people, but this culture is high trust.
Starting point is 00:54:59 There was Saudi Arabia is like that. You can just leave your wallet. That's because I'll chop your hands off. Yeah. Yeah, I had a friend who went to, I think it was like the Emirates or whatever, and there was a jewelry store where the guy walking. outside of his store and he lined gold necklaces in front of the store and she was like, aren't you scared that someone might steal him? And he goes, no, they'll get their hands chopped off.
Starting point is 00:55:18 So it's like, I'm like, I don't got to worry about it. Yeah, like the gold stores don't have to have like armed security there and stuff. The justice system there isn't the same kind of long drawn out process in the U.S. either. There was a viral video. It went viral because it was like three black dudes who went to a ski resort and stole like on his ski gear. Because like, I got to be honest. Apparently, this story happens quite a bit. Do they move it? Or was... You can easily move it. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Post it on Craigslist. I mean, come on. Ski gear, and it's just like, no, you know. But there are tons of stories where someone grabbed the wrong ski gear. And then you come out and you're like, where's my board? And someone comes like, I'm so sorry, do I grab the wrong? Like, you're bored. My board, like, identical. I didn't even notice. I almost grabbed the wrong skis because I had rentals.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And there's a bunch of, like, similar brands used by the rentals. And I'm like, oh, wait, that wasn't mine. And so the thing about ski resorts is especially the right ski resort, everybody's rich. That's the thing. Yeah. It's super wealthy. It's a rich man's game. I mean, there are like ways to do it, you know, I guess with value where it doesn't cost your family.
Starting point is 00:56:21 You buy like a ski pass, but you almost have to live there. You have to almost be a local for it to not be super expensive. I mean, like, if you live in like New England, there's a couple of mountains you can go to, you can go to Vermont and stuff. But it's still like a couple hundred bucks for a lift pass. It's a rich man's. It's like golf in a way. Hey, Ontario. Come down to BetMGM Casino and see what our newest exclusive the Price is Right Fortune Pig has to offer.
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Starting point is 00:57:32 Those get stolen, too. They do? A few hundred, even for like a used pair. Yeah? if you want to get the whole set, right? Yeah. Stein, to pivot a little bit, though, is there anything that's a little just bit too far out for you
Starting point is 00:57:42 where you're just like, actually not, that's BS? Maybe the Earth isn't flat. Charlie Kirk's a time traveler? That's not true. He's not a time traveler? He did text that, but I think. Oh, but on Charlie Kirk. Is Erica Kirk responsible for anything?
Starting point is 00:57:53 No, no, no. No, that's like 101 conspiracy theory now. They don't know. You've seen the videos, though? She had nothing to do with her husband's death. No way. But this is the bad part. She's going to, Charlie faced immense criticism
Starting point is 00:58:05 being the leader of turning point they made cartoons about him, so she's going to have to face intense criticism. What do you think of everybody saying that she's in on it? And like, that's a mainstream thing to say it now. I disagree with that, but, you know, at the exact same time, I am a free speech absolutist, so I'm not going to be like that. Why do you think so many people believe that? Or are willing to spew it.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I don't even know if they actually believe it. I think they're just trying to throw dirt in her face. Is that what you think, Alex? I don't know if it's just attention because I think that a lot of people, it's just like with the obscene files and the similar fact that we want more transparency, And so until the government gives more transparency, people are going to come up with their own conclusions. Well, I mean, I understand that. But at the same time, like the more transparency thing, they were making these accusations
Starting point is 00:58:47 like days after, like a week after Charlie was killed. So it's like you don't get any kind of resolution within a week after it happened. And this goes back to royal times. Like that would always happen. Like when a king would die, they thought it was like, you know, a woman trying to, you know, this is kind of like it's just, it just happens, you know. that's kind of the story that they're going to tell, and a lot of people are going to believe it. And some people were obviously not going to believe it.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And I think, me, I don't think Eric had anything to do with their husband. I just, I'm struggling to figure out, like, how you decide when something's like, definitely true and definitely not, because I feel like the Erica Kirk stuff would be right up your alley. For example, like they would say, oh, the person in the crowd who yelled that I did it, even though that they weren't the actual shooter. Charlie faked his death. Charlie would never fake his death. I mean, I wasn't best friends of Charlie, but the idea of him faking his death was just ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:59:29 He would never do that. He would never do that. He's not dishonest. So, yeah, so I don't believe that. I mean, I don't see what the benefit would be for Charlie to fake. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, because then it makes it way much difficult. But there's people on the Internet that are saying that.
Starting point is 00:59:40 It makes it way more difficult for him to see his family. No, they're saying that Erica's responsible for it. I've heard that. I heard that. I don't believe that, obviously. There's a lot of things going around. People are saying a lot of different stuff. They're saying that it was a dude in the crowd.
Starting point is 00:59:53 There was a guy with the 22 standing there. My favorite was that Charlie got shot in the back clearly and that he was shot by the guy in front of him in the bushes. Yeah. The one thing... That's not possible. The one thing I would like to know, though, it's that every time there is a shooter,
Starting point is 01:00:10 the FBI's like, oh, they were on a radar. We didn't do anything. I would just imagine that Lance Twiggs and Tyler were on their radar. I mean, whether they want to admit that, and I don't know that. I'm just purely speculating. I just feel like if they were in discords
Starting point is 01:00:22 talking about this, and I do think that he talked about it. Dude, I feel like this is naturally up your alley, though. I mean, didn't you hear that Charlie Kirk was turning on Israel and Israel had every incentive to go after him? I mean, I feel like this is right up your rally. I mean, I don't know what your point is, I guess. I mean, I work for turning.
Starting point is 01:00:38 He was turning on Israel and Israel had to kill him because he was turning on Israel and they didn't want to give him time to do so. And didn't you see those text messages? There were text messages that he said that. I don't think Charlie would ever turn his back on Israel, but maybe he showed some frustration. I think that that's fair. I mean, but I don't think that he would ever turn his back. Yeah. What do you think it says about people willing to use those texts and things like that to attack, you know, the things that he built, which is turning point and and his wife is widow now. Well, Charlie was attacked his entire career,
Starting point is 01:01:03 so people weren't going to stop attacking turning point. I guess you would just say the difference now. Some conservatives now are attacking it. Well, I mean... If you want to call him that. Yeah, I mean, I would say that there's right-leaning people that are attacking it now. I think there's a difference between right-leaning
Starting point is 01:01:15 and conservative nowadays. Well, whatever. I'm just saying it used to just be strictly from the left. That's why Jezebel was doing articles before he died, you know, hiring people on Etsy to do spells on him. So if that's a... That was a regular occurrence in his life weird stuff like that, not people doing spells necessarily.
Starting point is 01:01:30 So he was constantly under attack from the left. Now that attack is coming, you know, from more people on the right. So it just seems a little more intense. But listen, I don't think Eric and Kirk had anything to do with her husband's death. But sadly, people are always going to say that because that's just, that's just, you can't change people's minds. I want to jump to this story we had. This is a tragic story that just broke a couple hours ago. We've been waiting on details for it about this shooting.
Starting point is 01:01:54 You may have heard at the hockey rink in Pawtucket, a father. shot his wife and three kids in a horror family dispute. Now, the thing about the story is that we've not gotten any details on the shooter. And when that happens, you start to question. Start making assumptions. Yeah, what was going on with this? Now, of course, following this, we have no details. They've not released any information. If this was like a white male, they would have said right away, like here's the person, here's the name. The online rumors right now are that this was a father who had maybe like left his family or something, but was transgender. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:33 There's pictures. But is any of this corroborated? No, nothing's corroborated yet. The fact that it's that vague. It's still just, uh, guilty. That's why I'm bringing up like the reason we've been sitting on, like, I've been sitting on this like waiting like, I don't know if we can actually report this because other than saying a tragedy happened, we don't know much.
Starting point is 01:02:50 There are tweets going up that, that are uncorroborated of a man. I'm not going to show because we don't know that this is the actual person. But Turtle Boy says sources are reporting. the person who set up a hockey game in Pawtuckett was a transgender dad. I'm not going to say the potential name. It's going to be a popsicle headache for some people, but he appears to be a diehard Trump supporter who's been warning other conservatives on Twitter not to badmouth trans people. Just yesterday he warned Kevin Sorbo and Alex Jones that transgender people are going to go berserk
Starting point is 01:03:16 if people keep bashing men like him. I've not seen any evidence to confirm that this is the individual. I don't know why people are assuming that it is, but a lot of people online are saying it is, that doesn't mean it's true. That being said, with the, well, but here's the issue with the Canada shooting. It turned out that the internet was completely correct. These initial reports that it was a transgender mass shooter when they said woman in a dress, it was, in fact, it was a male.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Yeah. And so I suppose what we can opine on our source like this is, what is it, Coulter's law? Coulter's law? Yeah, Coulter's law is if a news report does not mention that if they don't give the identity or background of the perpetrator, you know, some kind of minority group. Yep. That's what Anne Coulter says.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Right, because the media will always, they'll always tell you if it's going to be, like, if it's a white male who did it, they'll just say it. Yeah. They got no problem. If they don't tell you, then you have to wonder what minority group it might have been. Yeah. I mean, this is, this is likely the situation. I don't know about political affiliation, but I don't think that really matters if it's a,
Starting point is 01:04:21 if it's a trans person. Again, this is all still up in the air. There's no country. But isn't it weird, though, seven out of the last eight, shooters have been trans shooters? I actually, I don't think it's weird at all. So, yeah, but I'm like, flavor of the...
Starting point is 01:04:35 I know what you mean, it is bizarre, though. You don't think it's weird at all. I know what it's. We kind of thoughts on them. No, but I'll elaborate a second, but there's photos I'm not going to show of an individual who looks like a middle-aged man who's trans at a hockey rank, which appears to be the location in question.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I don't know for sure, though, so until we get better cooperation, I'm not going to show anything. But no, my point is, the reason why I think we're seeing so many of these mass shooters being trans is because people who are suffering some kind of like psychotic derangement, you go online and you're told by everybody that the pain you feel is caused by being transgender. This is the solution to everything, right? We hear it over and over again that when a teenager is depressed, someone says maybe you're trans and then they get fast-lined through this process. So the issue is not that the mass shooters are trans, but that people
Starting point is 01:05:23 predisposed to violent deranged tendencies are being told they're trans and they're going. going for it. Yeah, and I think it's just, it shows that you're out of touch with reality if you do think that you can actually change your gender. Because, you know, if you can't change anything or ethnicity, like, you know, you can be half white and half black. Like our, you know, ethnicity is a spectrum, right? You know, you can be half whatever, but you can't be half male and half female. So there's no spectrum. It's binary. It's yes or no. And I guess you could say there's people born intersex, but I would just say they've, you know, mutilated genitals. So it's just, if you think you can go, a man can become a woman, you're actually retarded. And they even say, no, I'm not even kidding. They diagnose most of the trans people that have autism.
Starting point is 01:06:00 So I think that's a huge correlation too. The females. Yeah. The report was that like a majority, overwhelming majority of transgender young women, young females, have autism. We talked about the support. So what's happening is you've got these young people who are undergoing some kind of typical DSM-5 mental disorder, and they're told the solution is gender medical, you know, therapy or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I mean, we talked about this a little bit last week. The instances of bulimia and anorexia have plummeted, and the instances of trans men has rise accordingly. So a lot of it is likely just body dysmorphia, at least with women. When it manifests in men, it manifests for different reasons. But with women, it's very likely that it's all body dysmorphia. when they're young, they're going through a lot of changes in puberty and stuff, and that's a really difficult time. And then you, you know, you couple that with bringing them to a psychologist
Starting point is 01:06:55 that has been indoctrinated with this kind of BS, and so they start pushing it on kids. We were talking about one kid that was 15 when she transitioned socially. She started dressing like a boy, and then 11 months later, they actually gave her surgery. And, you know, it's insane, but, you know, the fact that a doctor would do that, to a 16 year old, you know, that's, that's insane. But this is, this is all like part of the, the, basically the, the, I mean, the medicine. Okay, wait, I think we've got some more corroboration. Let me, uh, let me see if I can find this. Well, I would say everybody has like a little bit of body misfor, uh, dysmorphia. Because like, if you really think about it, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:37 it's like, you know, big erexia, where you want to be really big, you know, there's anorexia. So it's like these, we know these people are mentally ill. And I think we have to blame the parents for, enabling. It's confirmed. We got it. This is NBC10 saying that, let's, okay, let me see if I can find the, Dan Janegh reporting,
Starting point is 01:07:57 it was a father, a man dressed in women's clothing. Yeah. That he targeted his family members at the hockey game. So it's looking now like this is, the photos may not be confirmed, but it does look like at the bare minimum, a man in women's clothing killed his family, according to NBC10.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah, to pick up what you were. saying, Alex, the particular case that I'm talking about, the mother actually testified because this child won a $2 million lawsuit against the doctor and the psychologist. But the mother felt like she was being coerced. She brought her kid to the psychologist, and the psychologist was like, okay, this is what it is. And the mother was like, hold on. And then the doctor, the psychologist was like, no, no, this is actually what it is. You have to affirm this, et cetera, et cetera. So as much as there are definitely parents that push their kids into it. There's also
Starting point is 01:08:45 a total like industrialization. They literally say that the kid's going to self-harm if they don't do this. Because, I mean, part of it is because they get paid more money to do procedures. They get the pharmaceutical companies make money off the lifetime of
Starting point is 01:09:01 drugs that the kid has to take. If they... They said that at Boston Children's Hospital that they're a lifelong patients. Yeah. So, I mean, it's it's a disgusting situation made even more horrible because the medical professionals that people are supposed to trust are actually pushing this on children. Wow. I mean, let me just read a little bit. They say NBC 10's Dan Jan Janegg reported citing a law enforcement source. A suspect was a father who may have been dressed in women's clothing and then he intentionally targeted family
Starting point is 01:09:30 members who are at the hockey game. Concliffe said police were not involved in the suspect's death. It appears from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, but we are not, but we are going to investigate fully, the police were not involved in it. So according to rumors circulating on X from witnesses, this individual came in, shot his wife and then kids, and when it was tackled by a bystander, pulled out a gun and shot himself. And there are photos of an individual who is clearly transgender, and they're saying this is the person in question. Other rumors are saying that the individual in question social media account was a Trump supporting far right, you know, quote unquote far right trans person, but who was largely
Starting point is 01:10:09 critical of the right for being anti-trans and threatened to go berserk. So this is, this is wild. Yeah. I mean, look, it doesn't matter what your politics are if you're, if you're, you know, if you have this mental disorder, you have this disorder. You know what the issue is for a lot of these people is that with body dysmorphic disorder, there are people who, no matter how fit they get, look in the mirror and they feel like they're not fit. Something is wrong. There are dudes who are so jacked, they can't itch their back. You have to see the video where they put a post-it note on this weight lift, on this bodybuilder's back, and he, can't get it off because his muscles are too big. He's like, oh, man. But there are people
Starting point is 01:10:43 like that. I'm not saying that guy. But there are people who look in the mirror and they see themselves scrawny. So they just keep going, keep eating. Same thing with anorexia. So the problem is, for these people who are suffering from gender dysphoria, no matter how many times they look in the mirror, they're not going to see the right thing. It's not an issue of them being the wrong gender. It's an issue of them having some kind of self-identification issue that anyone can experience in a variety of ways. There are people who stage, there was one, one famous story where a guy knocked the jack out from a motorist car so it would crush his arm because he felt that he shouldn't have an arm because he had body dysmorphic disorder. And so he went to the doctor and said,
Starting point is 01:11:22 you need to remove my arm. It's not part of my body. And they were like, you're wrong. So then he crushed it with his vehicle so that it would be amputated and he could finally get off. Like, there are people. Do you remember Rich Piana? Who's it? Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. He was so famous. Look him up. He's a meme now, Rich Piana, but he would actually inject silicone into his muscles. Oh, right. Yeah, you're talking about... And that was one of the reasons he died. Synthal.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Yeah, but at least he, like, worked out. He ever seen... He did, but I mean, that's a mental disorder. Like, he was already jacked. He didn't need his, you know, put that into his muscles. Yeah, but Synthal... He died from it? How old was he was 46? I thought he died from something else.
Starting point is 01:12:00 He had like a heart attack. Yeah. But yeah, but he just didn't take care of himself very well. Well, because a lot of these guys, when you want your muscles to be visible, you have to dehydrate yourself. Because the truth is, everybody's got a six-pack. It's just a question of how much fat is on top of it. Correct. And so for a lot of these guys, you see it like in the movies,
Starting point is 01:12:17 they have their six-pack showing, you know, like some superhero movie. And they're like, look at me. Yeah, they don't drink water for the day or whatever. Yeah. They get real dehydrated. And then they eat back. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Yeah, I was reading. I think it was Chris Hemsworth said he was eating like several pounds of chicken and fish per day to maintain the mass because you need to keep. eating the protein. Otherwise, there was a, there was a funny incident where Jason, was Jason MoMA, is that his name? Jason MoMA. He was on the beach and they said he was looking pudgy. And it was like, no, he just looked normal. He's a, he's a very fit guy. He was in between movie shoots and he looked fit, but you couldn't see his muscles or anything. And so the assumption from these paparazzi people was like, oh, wow, look how fatty is. And it's like, no,
Starting point is 01:13:02 that's like a normal body. Well, that's like Patty the batty, the UFC fighter, it gets like 35 pounds, fatter right after his fights, like literally, instantly, yeah. Or after his way-ins, you mean? No,
Starting point is 01:13:11 well, it gets a little bigger after the way-ins because he probably, you know, rehydrates, but like he's just famous for getting really fat
Starting point is 01:13:17 in the off-season and losing it all right before. You know what they should do for the weigh-ins? They should test your, they should give both people the same IV bag. So that way they have said.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Oh, yeah, that would kind of, well, because you're both going to gain the same amount of weight, but stop being dehydrated and killing yourself. That guy falling was bad.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Which one? Just recently. Look it up where they were live on the air and the guy fell behind him. At the way in, yes. At the way in, it was a super viral video.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Because he passed out, right? Yeah, but it's hard to walk. Three weeks ago. You want to get his, as, let's pull this up. Let's pull this up. Let's pull this up.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Is this air right here? Yeah. And they were live on the air. Oh, is a doctor talking about it. Let's get this doctor's opinion. He's going to tell us all about this stuff. It was an extremely concerning scene earlier at UFC 324 Wayans
Starting point is 01:13:59 when Cameron Smotherman completely collapsed after stepping off the scale from his way in. In this video, we'll talk about what exactly happened here. And more importantly, the response afterwards. Welcome back, everybody. I'm Dr. Brian Cesar. I'm going to get back to the last. He was out.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Eventually, they regain consciousness, right? He was able to sit back up. He regained consciousness here. But then, unfortunately, what do we see? And he goes back down, right? He still feels lightheaded. There hasn't been enough time for that water that he's drinking to get distributed well enough to restore that plasma volume,
Starting point is 01:14:29 to restore optimal blood supply to his brain, and he goes back down again. We then see this whole sequence as they get him. him off of the stage, they are literally just carrying him and it looks like he's still unconscious. I mean, I don't know what we're doing here. This is, I don't know. I don't know what we're doing here because you should not be just carrying an unconscious. Dude.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Wow, man. That's crazy. I mean, the same thing with Brian Sutterer, MD. Same thing with bodybuilders. Not, not, I haven't seen this kind of thing happen, but bodybuilders before they go on stage, They're completely dehydrated because it makes your skin look super, super thin. And a lot of bodybuilders use diuretics and stuff to just suck the water out of them. So they're on stage.
Starting point is 01:15:17 They're smiling and they're posing for the camera and stuff. But they're likely fighting cramps at the time. They're in a lot of pain. It's a really agonizing. Oh, you know, it's wild. My brother was he won Mr. SMU in like 2019 or 18, I think. And I watched him for like three days, like, do nothing but eat ground beef. He was disgusting and he felt like death.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Yeah. It was bad. You know, like, we like dropped weight and wasn't eating anything? I mean, he had to look really cut for like the thing. And yeah, you just got to be. What is it? Like a bodybuilding thing? Yeah, it's like a bodybuilding competition.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And so like, I guess the goal was to get like as low body fat as you possibly could. And then like get super tan and like flex. Both both people for the way in right before they go up are going to sit down for a nice IV bag. Ways the same. And then you're both going to go up and you're going to get weighed. And that's it. It's silly that they're like, we want to get this weight class, so we're going to die to do it. We're like crushing our bodies to do it.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Well, Ronnie Coleman, the world's best bodybuilder, he didn't drink at all. But before competitions like the night or two nights before, he would get really drunk on vodka. So he would just be so dehydrated. And he didn't even normally drink. That's so dumb. Man, humans are weird. You see Ronnie now and he can barely walk because of all the back surgeries that he's had. He's the greatest.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And he won the most. Remember Jack Lillane? Yeah. That guy was awesome. Not as good as Ronnie Coleman. He wasn't a... Jackalane wasn't a bodybuilder. No, he was just a fitness guy.
Starting point is 01:16:41 He was like, I'm 90 years old and I can backflip. And he was like, yeah, let's go. But he was considerably more healthy than any bodybuilder. He was always kind of weird to me. Like, wasn't Richard Simmons kind of out of shape? I think so, yeah. But that was part of his fitness, you know, gimmick that you can be fat and you can move around. It's all about positivity.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And so that's why he didn't need to be able to. I was... I've been watching Star Trek the next generation again for like my fifth or sixth, watch through, and it's just like everybody's super thin in that show. Like, this is the late 80s. Yeah. We had, like, a roaring economy coming, like, after the Reagan years, and everybody was very happy, and, you know, the economy was a boom, and...
Starting point is 01:17:19 You know why that was? Cocaine. Yeah. The CIA sold cocaine. Like, we just need to go back to where the CIA just sells cocaine. Stop trafficking kids. Oh, Zepak out of there. Cocaine is.
Starting point is 01:17:30 No, cocaine. Now we got, Maduro, we got all the crack we need from Venezuela, like, just, CIG. Go back to selling cheap cocaine. Cocaine, I think you're overstating the amount of cocaine. I don't think I am. They sold. They weren't selling cocaine.
Starting point is 01:17:45 They were not selling cocaine all over the country. They would be less on dating apps. They were not. They were not selling cocaine all over the country. They were selling cocaine. They were selling cocaine in. They were selling cocaine in certain places. But they weren't like providing the whole country with cocaine.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I mean, sure, Jan. I think they were selling cocaine everywhere. I like to believe the food pyramid is totally wrong. No, no, no, it was totally right, but they forgot to mention that each pyramid was 10% cocaine. Yeah. See, that would be better. The government was like, here's some bread. What's in it?
Starting point is 01:18:12 Trust us. And then you'd eat it and you'd be like, and then you'd just loot all that weight. If I had a time machine and I had to go back anywhere, it's to when cocaine was in Coca-Cola. I mean, that is, I would love to just try that. Oh, you know, everybody's drinking cocaine-laced Coca-Cola. But you know that caffeine has near the same physiological effect. Not if you drink 20s, 20 Coca-Cola's, I'm sure. caffeine and cocaine have very, very similar physiological effects.
Starting point is 01:18:36 I think that's probably true. It is true. It's absolutely true. But I think cocaine has more of a euphoric feeling. That's a different. Caffeine does induce euphoria. People just don't take that much. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:45 For real. I think they are similar. They're like the same analogous. Bro, we are a nation hopped up on goofballs, bro. Nogalous. Caffeine is a psychoactive stimulant and it's in everything. It's in everything. You know what?
Starting point is 01:18:57 My theory is as to why they give you a leader of cola when you go to a fast food restaurant? Why? You eat this big thing of fries, salt and oil, and then you eat this disgusting burger, which is probably half styrofoam, and your body is like red alert. You know, the captain of your body is like, we're going to die. We need to shut the body down and divert all energy to get this crap through the system. So at the same time, you pump yourself full of caffeine to jolt your brain. I'd imagine if you like went to a fast food restaurant and said,
Starting point is 01:19:31 let me get a supersized meal with a big fry, you'd pass out. You get the idis. You just like, and you fall over, you get the meat sweats. Well, you drink a liter of cola and crank 300 milligrams of caffeine in your system, and your body is dying, but your brain is like, everything's fine. Well, you have a coffee company. I mean, I do think, like, I mean, I think it proves that, like, caffeine is probably just as addicting. More people will use coffee than, you know, cocaine, so it's probably the same freaking thing, basically.
Starting point is 01:19:55 You know what really bums me out is cold brew is so delicious. I got some of that, I forgot what the company's called. I don't know. I don't know. The Western world was created on, like, caffeine and... Yeah, the Enlightenment stuff. But like, but like a good cold brew, it's, like, dark and chocolatey. You put some heavy cream and your little tablespoon and heavy cream, you mix it up, and it tastes so good.
Starting point is 01:20:14 But people don't understand this. A cup of coffee has, like, 90 milligrams of caffeine in it. And a cup of cold brew has, like, 350 milligrams of caffeine. I'm... It's crazy. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I think it's good for it.
Starting point is 01:20:26 You ever see that video of Hitler on a stimulant? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's, like, tweaking it out. Everything in moderation, of course. I'm not talking about being meth. It's funny. I'm talking about that.
Starting point is 01:20:35 You know who else is on meth? Clavicular, your favorite content creator. He's on meth. He was doing it on 8. You love that guy. I think he's the number one guy right now. He's a top dog. He needs to come on Timcast, IRL, but he's trying to stay out of politics.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I think he does steroids too. Oh, yeah. I'm not to start doing steroids. I'm not about that meth life, so. He does steroids. Try it before he doesn't. I got a question. I got a question.
Starting point is 01:20:56 For these UFC fighters, like if they did meth or coke, would that, would they get in John Jones? Yeah, I think so. They get tested for that? Yeah. I was saying this. I don't know. I think any athlete in the Olympics is going to get tested.
Starting point is 01:21:09 So we were having this conversation. Actually, this would be great for the skateboard podcast. Because I was telling the other pro skateboarders like, skateboarding is probably the only pro sport, maybe not necessarily where you can do stimulants and never get caught. Maybe golf. Do they... Even the X games, they don't drug test?
Starting point is 01:21:24 I don't think so. Because, bro, all those dudes would lose everybody. Yeah. The Olympics, yes. The Olympics, yes. But it's not just that. It's that a bunch of the pro skate contests are just, they're just unregulated, you know, culture core. And so I was telling them, like, bro, I'm going to tell you this right now.
Starting point is 01:21:41 When you watch that skate contest in like Tampa or whatever, I bet these dudes are just coked out of their minds, bro. Like, I want to win. They go out there. No one's drug testing them. They're doing performance, you know, performance-enhancing drugs. PEDs, but they're not doing anything special. They're just blasting coke. I don't think that code counts as a PED.
Starting point is 01:22:01 It definitely is. I think it's more likely also they would also have to be on downers because they're hurting their shins or hurting their feet. It would be a strong likelihood they would also have pain pills. I think, nah, like, I got whacked in my shin three times today and it hurts and be a man. I mean, nobody's crying. Aaron Rogers famously took Percocet to, like, play football. And you can tell him, like, in an interview, like in a post-game interview, he's clearly very high. But that's more like pain killer.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Sure. You know? I mean, if, like, they're popping ibuprofen, it'd be like, yeah, I guess. Yeah, but like you take a sick fall at the X games. You're a little bit hurt. You need to get back up. You pop a perk and then you're ready to go for another. Mark's not going to hit you for 45 minutes anyway.
Starting point is 01:22:44 And perks. I don't know. I don't pop drugs. You got three minutes between runs. You're not taking drugs in your run because you do a slam. And trust me, dude, the skateboarder is when you take a slam, when you fall, and I wish you don't say, like, any athlete, if you're in the middle of your sport and you fall down, and you slam, you're not going like, oh, no, I'm so hurt, I need drugs.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Bro, I got to be honest, especially if you're on cocaine. You're not going to be like, oh, I hurt my eye. Is that common in the skate community? Are they doing coke like that? The best skateboarders in the world. I can't speak for some, I can't speak for everybody, but let me just tell you this. Skateboarding's largely dead, but I assure you all the biggest guys in the world when you watch these videos, are like, can you believe this dude just did the greatest
Starting point is 01:23:23 trick? And I'm like, oh, wow, and how much coke was he on? Because I'm going to tell you right now, they are on Coke. They are whacked out I mean you would have to be a little Not sober but you don't want to be like drunk So feeling pretty invincible There's a lot of booze
Starting point is 01:23:37 They probably take Adderall No not Adderall Adderall's too slow Pro baseball players you know they used to take beanies back in the day Which is an amphetamine salt There's a pro skateboarder who takes a beer And just bashes his face over and over again And then does something ridiculous
Starting point is 01:23:49 And I'm just like He's probably got brain damage Yeah I mean look if you're ripping a bunch of lines Are you worried about damaging your brain that's the crazy thing about sports like skateboarding and it's not just that there's a like BMX and uh you know what the funny thing is i don't think i don't think this largely of like skiing and snowboarding like winter sports but uh a lot of the a lot of action sports these people are
Starting point is 01:24:14 just whacked out of their minds on drugs their whole life is if i do the craziest thing imaginable i'm going to make more money literally there's a quote there's an interview in a magazine like 20 years ago i read where the guy said the thing about skateboarding is that you're tired you're not really feeling it. And then your boss says, I want you to nose grind this 16th stair handrail and you'll make an extra $20,000 this year. Now, don't worry about the terminology.
Starting point is 01:24:38 They're basically saying, jump down this flight of stairs when you feel sick and not like you're going to make it. Otherwise, you're not going to make as much money this year. And so you go for it. And I don't want to get too personal, but a friend of mine who was a pro landed a crazy trick.
Starting point is 01:24:52 That was very dangerous. And the boss said it didn't look good enough go back and do it again. when they went back and did it again they broke their arm and quit. I was like, I'm done. Wow. Yep. I mean, what was it for?
Starting point is 01:25:05 It was for a video, yeah. And so, I'm telling you, there's a lot of pot smoking because it wipes your brain out. And then so these skateboarders are just like, and then they can do crazy tricks. And then the rest of them are just blasting lines of Coke like nobody's business. Well, not Tony Hawk, though.
Starting point is 01:25:21 He's like famous. I don't think Tony Hawk is a drug kind of guy. No. I don't think so. I mean, I know for sure, but he doesn't come awesome. You know what he's doing? He's popping QNol. What's that? You don't know about QNol?
Starting point is 01:25:33 No? You don't know? He takes turmeric. He's popping turmeric pills, baby. That's good for you. He does, he does, he does, he does. That's smart. Bro, Tony Hawk is in his late 50s, and he does commercials on Fox News for turmeric. So you make fun of me for, like, in particular.
Starting point is 01:25:48 You watch Fox News, unironically, so. I do. I also watch MS now. You know, I watch the Young Turks. job. I'll watch Kyle Kalinsky. I'm saying the young Turks is on the internet at least. I mean, that's not. Fox News is on the internet. What do you mean? Yeah, but Fox News is rumor news. You're too old to be watching. Yes, I know. You should be watching Fox News. You're boomer age. Look at you. No, I'm not. First of all, uh, Alex Stein is, is just meming when he says
Starting point is 01:26:13 Glibuette. You don't need to, you know, you don't have to be an age. He's just meming. I don't think you watch is in Fox News because of the whole big booty Latina thing. Yeah, I don't watch it. Well, one reason they fired my biological stepfather Tucker Carlson. So, you know, ever since Tucker's been gone, I've boy. and stepfather. Yeah, and I just think Fox News kind of sucks overall. It's a good guy to have us a stepfather. That's because they wanted it.
Starting point is 01:26:33 He's a pretty influential guy. I was going to say because there's a lot of people. I'm really curious as to what happens with the media industry because we were talking about this the other day. Let me do this again because people are really interested in this cable TV ratings. We did a segment on it. The segment was massive because people, hold on, let me. Let me try if I can pull this one up. It's, uh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Who has the biggest show, Gutfeld? Who's the biggest show on the network? I still think it's probably 8 p.m. or the five. It used to be, Tussie Waters or the five, I think probably. The personality. So Jesse took his spot. Check this out. Check us out. Week of February 2nd cable news ratings.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Fox is the only network to grow. And the only thing that really matters, well, first I'll say this. Fox News had 2.633 million viewers. 275,000 were in the key demo. Yo, that terrifies me, man. That's outrageous. Check us out. Check this out.
Starting point is 01:27:27 It's like 10%. They do 175,000 in daytime. This is crazy. MS now, 134,000. But I would argue with the key demo though, Tim, because old people buy more stuff, so it's almost better if you have like a No, no, this is my point. Bro, boomers are about
Starting point is 01:27:42 to turn 80. They're about to die. Like, it's called the mortality shelf. Yeah. So Fox News is going to cease to exist. There's no way you support the studio for the five at those salaries. Jesse Waters, big fan.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Appreciate he has been in the show quite a bit. His rumored salary, I don't know if the actual numbers, I think it's $5 million a year or something like that. Ain't no way you're paying him $5 million a year off $275,000 viewers per night. Not happening. Well, you're talking about the key demo, though. I mean, if they have old people watching, they're more likely to buy the products. Alex, my point is the old people are dying. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:15 And when their ratings drop from 2.63 in Q&L commercials down to $225,000 for beer commercials, they're not going to generate enough ad sales to support big. I agree. They are a dinosaur and they're going to get hit by, you know, a metaphorical comment any day. All of them, all of them. I mean, MS Now, I don't even understand how MS Now exists. And rumors are MSN house daytime is 75,000. In the key demo. Bro, I could, I kid you not. I could launch a brand new podcast on chicken farming with I lot who has no experience and I who literally have no idea for the most part about chickens and we'd get more views than MS Now gets in daytime.
Starting point is 01:28:54 interesting because a lot doesn't know anything about chickens. To be fair, it would be really funny to hear us BSing the whole time about nonsense and laughing about chickens, and that's more entertaining than MS now. I do like eating your chickens eggs. It's one of the best Timcast perks. Working at this company, yeah. I don't know, I've never had real eggs.
Starting point is 01:29:09 It's true. Employees at Timcast get first come first serve eggs from chickens. There's always way too many of too. It was funny. As my wife the other day, I was like, oh, did we get eggs on the store? And she goes, no, I couldn't fit it in the bag. I decided just to not get it. And I had to walk over to the chicken coop and grab some things.
Starting point is 01:29:24 A lot of ways. All right, we're going to make pancakes. On this key demo stuff, though, this is for advertisements. However, older people vote a lot more than younger people. So they're still getting their message out to some of the most important voters. I got to stop you right there. They're going to die soon? Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:38 The mortality shelf is now, which means life expectancy being 79 doesn't mean when you turn 79 you die. It means some people live to 85, 90, 100. Some people die at 70. The expectation right now, as boomers have just hit life expectancy, is that there's a curve from 79 and down where we're going to see a certain amount of death. So if we cut off the portion that's expected the higher end of the bell curve that will live beyond 80 years old, as some do, we're looking at, they estimate like 30 million deaths in the next four or five years from average life expectancy deaths. This is the reality. People die around this age,
Starting point is 01:30:15 which means in the next year or so, total viewership, to be fair, when Tucker Carlson was on the air, He was doing three to five million per night with like 600,700,000 key demo. Now, that's Tucker Carlson. I get it when he left. The numbers did go down. But even now, looking at the numbers, they are saying like, well, they're up this month, 12 in the demo. That's good.
Starting point is 01:30:40 And that is good. But their total viewership is collapsing while their key demo is going up a little bit. Again, you are not going to sustain CNN, Fox News, or MS now. And the rumors are that the story broke that with like, was like Warner Brothers is talking to Paramount or something like this. And I don't know, I don't even know where CNN is anymore because it's been sold so many times. But CNN is a worthless company.
Starting point is 01:31:06 It is worthless. They don't have enough views to actually bring in money. Now, to be fair, technically they do because they're getting, yo, this is apocalypse. Look at this. CNN gets $753,000 total prime time. That's old people. They're doing 142.
Starting point is 01:31:22 the key demo, they're down 16% in the key demo and 9% in total. Daytime, 527,000 total viewers, total. And that's being on in every airport in the country. Okay, what you guys need to understand is that 142,000 prime time does not mean one hour. It means total. All night. The expectation is that in, I think it's three or four hours, they're doing like 40, 40,000 viewers. I mean, that's crazy. I'm not surprised at all, really. I mean, I think everybody watches stuff on their phone. They watch short form content. I'm going to let you guys in on a secret. You guys want to know a secret? Yeah, what's the secret? A meeting was held a couple of weeks ago in Florida with big executive figures specifically to discuss how they enter this space. So we've heard quite a bit after the election that they needed their new, they needed their own Joe Rogan on the left. And there were concerns that older people are voters. and they have this big block, but they're now recognizing that they've got only a couple years left where they can still sell ads to old people who have money.
Starting point is 01:32:31 So there was a meeting that took place with a bunch of executives who intentionally met just to talk to each other about how they solve this problem. So here's what you can expect. Big shows like, let's just go with Joe Rogan. He's the king of the castle, right? Don't be surprised if, and I'm not saying there's anything. thing I know about this. I'm not saying Joe would actually do this. I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:32:54 I would not be surprised if a year from now we find out that like Comcast bought the Joe Rogan experience. And they're like now airing on NBC at 9 p.m. They wish they could. But I mean, if it shows three hours, though, how are they going to do that? They put the first hour on live and then they say the last two hours are exclusive at NBC Plus. Yeah, I mean, they could do it that way. And they've already got Bill Maher on Paramount. I think he's on Paramount, right? No, no, no, he's on Max. He's on HBO. The podcast that he does in his basement?
Starting point is 01:33:22 No, real time. Oh, well, I know that's HBO, but I think his podcast is independent, I thought. Yeah, it's his own company. Again, I would not be surprised if these big companies start to, well, actually, I will say this. Like Jimmy Kimmel, we all make fun of his ratings being bad, he gets a lot of play on YouTube, but these are just clips. They need long form. And so I have my speculation right now is to consider, not that I know what's going to happen. Jimmy Kimmel might get a banger of an opening 10 minute, but that's not going to compete with the longer form stuff that you see from the likes of Rogan and the podcast space where they've done these massive $100 million deals with like Travis Kelsey and like Call Her Daddy, which means they're going to need a show that is conversational long form style for their premium platforms and it's not going to be Jimmy Kimmel.
Starting point is 01:34:13 I would not, considering the TV model of the 9pm live is basically out and primetime is dying. no one's really watching these live kind of shows. You know, the question is, does Timcast, IRL need to be live? Most of the people who watch watch afterwards as VOD. So we just are live because it's convenient for people they want to hang out. But I think what we'll end up seeing is, or I should say this, I would not be surprised if take a look at any one of these big lefty podcasts,
Starting point is 01:34:39 if they buy them and then put them on the air. What's his name? In 20 years, Hassan will be on MSNBC, yeah. and Taylor Cohen or something like. Yeah, Tyler Cohen. And it's going to be conversational, long form, hour long with, with, probably not commercial breaks, probably, it's going to be, you're going to be watching quote unquote TV, but TV's dead. They're just going to have Netflix is already doing this.
Starting point is 01:35:04 What am I even talking about? Have you guys gone to Netflix recently? They have a podcast section now. And they bought a bunch of podcasts. And to be honest. Anybody worth naming? Nobody you've heard of. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:14 And so, so I say this. I pay attention to all of the media industry. I run a business, so I'm constantly tracking trends, ad rates, you know, all that stuff. And I go on Netflix and I look at their podcast and I'm like, I've not heard of any one of these guys. But it makes sense because the strategy has always been like this. Let me tell you the urban legend of Green Day. You guys want to hear the Urban Legend of Green Day? Sure.
Starting point is 01:35:33 The urban legend goes like this. And actually, Phil, you can probably attest to this better than I could. The label, I can't remember which labor they were signed to, signed 15 bands that were identical to Green Day. It was the pop punk era. It was the late 80s, early 90s. and they said, look at these bands that are popping up and getting a lot of attention playing pop punk, sign them all. Then, whichever one makes it to the top of the mountain, we blast them off and we do the bigger deal with them and we promote them. And so the general idea was, instead of looking for big established artists and doing massive contracts, sign a bunch of tiny artists at dirt deals, and then try and find which one is the diamond in the rough that you can turn into a big prize.
Starting point is 01:36:12 and Green Day had a smashing hit with Duky and what was the next what was after Duky? I don't know what you're going to I don't know anyway you get the point like Green Day nailed it they took off and so the labels were like okay all these other little ones were worthless we didn't care the strategy is likely going to be the same the big networks don't care about shows like ours
Starting point is 01:36:32 because we're established and make a lot of money why bother right now is the opportunity to buy 10 small podcasts and then give a little light sprinkling of marketing see which one bubbles up a little bit and then dump your marketing budget to them and then you own 100% of it. I feel like they're already doing that, you know, giving out record deals. I mean, you know, they've done that for ages with record deals. Right. That's, that's the play. You signed a bunch of small dirt artists for cheap. And then, whichever one takes off is your, is your moneymaker and you own
Starting point is 01:37:00 everything. Like, I think we talked out, we were talking about this, Phil. I think the story with Paramore was that Haley Williams signed a 360 deal for 20 years. Yeah. That I don't know full details, but this meant that literally anything she ever did was owned by the label for 20 years. 360 means they get a piece of the merch, they get a piece of the public publishing, they get ownership of all the music, basically anything that artist does
Starting point is 01:37:22 for however long the term of the contract. 20 years. It's like you want to be famous? Okay, we get 20 years of everything. But she does get 20 years of consistent pay no matter. Yeah, but not when she's smashing it and doing stadiums making millions of dollars
Starting point is 01:37:35 and she's only getting paid hundreds of thousands. The way they talk about it is they say, well, we like to sign artists for, the life of the artist. If they can get you for, you know, 20 years for 10 records, they'll do that. Because from the label's perspective, they're like, well, we don't know if you're actually going to be famous. We don't know if you're actually going to write stuff that's good.
Starting point is 01:37:50 So we'll sign you and we'll put this money into you. So we want to make sure that we have your catalog and have you on long enough to actually You know, how evil these people are. You know, Michael Jackson was in this. Tell me about it. You know, he was framed 100%. Even, you know, Wade Robinson and James Safechuk, the two people that said that they were molested in the documentary.
Starting point is 01:38:07 One, Wade Robinson was his lead character witness in not one case, but two court cases where Michael Jackson was, you know, totally exonerated, never charged, investigated for 19 years. And that's what they said. That's the reason why Conrad Murray killed him because Sony wanted to get all of his originals because he had like the largest personal collection. He had the Beatles. He owned the Beatles. He owned the Beatles. He owned the Beatles. I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan. I'm a literally kill their artists. Michael Jackson bought Paul McCartney's He bought the whole All the Beatles and the Beatles I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan I'm just a little bit surprised Here in this come from you
Starting point is 01:38:39 Because I feel like you'd be able to work a lot of No Michael Jackson was innocent And even the one Settlement he paid to Jordy Chandler They were going to fight it But it was just easier to pay him Because there was no criminal charge with it So it was just easier to pay the guy
Starting point is 01:38:52 And make him go away And on top of that Jordy Chandler's stepdad Who was the one that kind of motivated Jordie to say all this ended up dying under mysterious circumstances, like did his suicide and quit his job as a dentist, like totally spiraled out. But if you just look at Wade Robinson, that's the guy that was in the, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:07 the key guy in the documentary Leaving Neverland. Literally, he dated Michael Jackson's cousin. After his death, he was at his funeral, like, love the guy, defended him in multiple court cases. And then all of a sudden he's dead. He's like, oh, yeah, he molested me trying to get it. There were some weird circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson, though, despite. Well, McCulley Colkin and, you know, Corey Feldman both slept at his house with him and said nothing weird happened. I do believe that he was a little bizarre. arrested development, but I wouldn't know what it's like to be like a superstar celebrity at five. Sure, but if Epstein were to do those things and just say, oh, I had some people sleep over my house.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Epstein was guilty. Michael Jackson was not. They're just, I just, because Michael Jackson was investigated by the FBI, he never went to jail. Yeah. So if there was any evidence that could have nailed him, I think they would have nailed them. So Michael Jackson was. And now, it's very likely that Michael Jackson was innocently, didn't do anything. Now, what about R. Kelly?
Starting point is 01:39:53 Oh, no, he urinated. Oh, he's guilty? Yeah. You didn't see the tape. I thought we were just, have you never seen him? No, I didn't watch it. I have it on my phone if you want to watch it. You have it on your phone.
Starting point is 01:40:02 I'm a big Rkel. Wait, wait, she was an underage child. No, she wasn't, I don't think. Well, I don't have it on my phone. That's a joke. This guy. Was she underage in that? The girl in the video?
Starting point is 01:40:11 I don't know. I don't say, well, I'd allegedly. Well, otherwise, wait, what would be illegal about it then if she wasn't underage? Oh, I guess maybe she was. Well, maybe I haven't seen the video, but I could have sworn I've seen that video. That's a disgusting thing. I don't really have that on my phone. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:40:25 No, that is a bad joke. Well, I thought he just peed on a woman of age. I forgot that it was a child. I understand it correctly. It was an underage person. It was an underage person? I think so. I think it was like 17.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Okay, well, I've not seen it. I was just making a bad joke, but I didn't, I, obviously. You have more in common with Epstein than you thought? He did pee on somebody. No, I know, you both have this type of content on your phone. You're the one is defending Epstein. See, I don't understand that's the hill you want to die on. Like, I get, what do you mean by defending him?
Starting point is 01:40:49 No, I just think there's a, oh, it doesn't seem like it's like that connected. It doesn't seem like there's that much information to really connect them. like we don't see anybody that's guilty. You had to have heard yourself. There's way more evidence incriminating Epstein than there was. No, I think you overpromise on a lot of the Epstein stuff to make it more salacious to sound make it sound like a more sexy thing. No, it's salacious enough.
Starting point is 01:41:08 I think it's salacious enough, but I think you need to go through it. I don't think they're eating children. You don't think that? I don't think there's much evidence of that either. You don't think cannibalism exists? I do think cannibalism exists. I don't think there's evidence. But when you start tacking on, wait, you start tacking on all this extra bullshit,
Starting point is 01:41:24 It really mudders you... It's not extra bullshit. In the fact that he even bugged you, like, why are you personally... Even if people said that he's an astronaut, why do you even care? Like, it's weird that you get buttered about people... Because it muddies the water of the legitimate story. There's a legitimate story to be had here. But no, you want to tack on a bunch of extra random bullshit to make it sound more salacious.
Starting point is 01:41:41 That's the issue here. I think it's so bizarre. Yeah, I want to protect Jeffrey Epstein. You're on his side. He admitted it. I heard it. I heard that. In this argument, you have been defending him, dude.
Starting point is 01:41:49 You sound like such a shill. It's ridiculous. You're like literally... No, no, I want evidence. I want evidence-based accusations. You don't care about any evidence. You will accuse anybody of anything. There's three million people.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Just because they're emailing about jerky doesn't mean they're eating children. It doesn't mean sense. He's with the prime minister. He's with the most important people in the world and they're sending odd. Therefore, they're eating children? I would say that they probably worship the devil a lot of these people that are in high, powerful positions like that. Yes. And I would think that they do satanic rituals.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Dude, so if you ever heard of like skull and bones? Yeah. They went and what did they go do? That proves it. They went to stole Geronimo's skull. I'm saying, so what they do is they do weird. with bones and bodies. I know that you can't understand that. No, I believe. You're too young. You don't get that these people are actually evil. And they do do weird rituals. There's a guy
Starting point is 01:42:31 named Alistair Lerster Crowley. You should look him up, a famous occultist, and people would go to Hollywood parties where they would literally do spirit cooking. You looked up Marina Abramovich. You know who Marina Abramovich is? No, tell me. She's a famous spirit cooker, and part of her art is doing spirit cooking, where they get blood and piss and semen, and they write words on the wall, and they summon devils. And she's been on Microsoft commercials. Are they actually summon devils? They try to. They try to. I would argue that if God is real, which I do believe, then there are evil spirits.
Starting point is 01:42:59 So the devil's real. Before we go to Superjitz, I want to ask you about this. So, Carl She's got this thing. We were talking about this earlier with aliens. Will the U.S. confirm that aliens exist before 2027? And right now, yes, it's 17 cents. So if I vote no, and I put in 100 grand, I will make $19,000 this year. 20 grand.
Starting point is 01:43:21 That'd be a good time to get in. with all the hype around these aliens. What do you, what do you, what do you think? Just put a thousand just right now just for fun. Just put a thousand bucks. I'll get, I'll get $191 at the end of the year. $200. Those are better margins than my bank.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Hmm. Do you think they're going to say yes? I think you fade it. You say no. You fade it. If you, if you say, we're going to go to your rumble rants and superchance to smash a like button. Share the show with every person you've ever met in your life.
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Starting point is 01:44:18 So do it if you believe in what we do. but for now let's grab your rumble rants and superchats Lee G. Tet says what oh it says legit. Legit. Is that what I supposed to say? What do you call? What do you cam? What do you cam a magician? I think he means call. Who has lost all his magic answer, Ian. Oh. Ian's not even here to defend himself. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:44:42 J. Dev says, Masad, elad, shush. We are on to the elites and the satanic ring of evil. Go get them, guys. Go get them, guys. get him. You see, I think these people won't be satisfied until, like, what bullshit you put out in the ether about the Epstein files is true. So, I just don't know what your motivation is to defend him at all. I mean, I'm not defending him. I just think we should have- defending him. I mean, that's what it looks like you're defending him. I mean, I think we should have, like, facts and evidence for things before we go out with-
Starting point is 01:45:10 did you see the email where Jeffrey Epstein admitted that he was a, uh, an alien from, uh, did you see the, the video that they watched torture porn? Dude, did you what, did you hear the 30 emails? Why did you go? Oh, whoa. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Why are you changing the subject? Because the aliens are fake. That's really weird. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are you defending Epstein? Why did they?
Starting point is 01:45:26 I'm not defending a team. What do you mean? What do you mean? They're doing his emails. They're doing emails where they're saying they're aliens and you're just missing it because I think you're covering up for aliens. You know, he's emailing these Saudi Arabian guys saying, oh, did you like the torture video? Do you think that was, what do you mean? He was a lot of torture videos.
Starting point is 01:45:40 What do you mean? He's watching snuff porn. Yeah. Like a ton of it on the internet. But here's the thing, like, I don't think any reasonable person reading those jerky emails, any rational person could come to the conclusion that he's talking about eating kids. But the fact that you're like, look to rant and rape about that.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Okay. Now I'll address the point that you made. I don't think any rational person would come to the conclusion they're talking about eating jerky either. Okay, fair. But I don't think there's any evidence of them eating. That was my point. That was my point that you're jumping the gun to claim children. Maybe it's people we don't know, but they're certainly not talking about beef jerky. That's weird.
Starting point is 01:46:10 It's split the difference. Just humans. We don't know humans either. We just know it's not jerky because that's weird. And it would be, that's the joke. would be funny if they were actually making jerky because it's hard to believe. Dude, I think there's a lot of emails and there's a chance he was talking about jerky. That's not to say that he wasn't a pedophile and Galane Maxwell didn't, you know, procure
Starting point is 01:46:29 young women for him to sexually assault and that he wasn't convicted in 2008 and got a plea deal in Florida. That doesn't mean he wasn't involved with a lot of famous people after the fact we're willing to work with him after he was found out to be a pedophile. But all this extra stuff really dilutes the real story. and it's a crazy witchhood. Let's read some more. Let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:46:49 We got this from NN. Okay, we got this from NNY. Re-Pam Bondi at hearing. Asman Gold was right. Better than even odds, you can go to a random ASU sorority party, find some entitled, arrogant, drunk, blonde, and she would be smarter than Bondi. Well, you know, that's hyperbolic, but funny.
Starting point is 01:47:10 What I would say is Pam Bondi is not doing her job very well. That's the academic way to put it. Like, doesn't she have, like, great pedigree on people? I mean, that's academic. I know, I'm being academic. I mean, dude, she's literally, like, retarded. I mean, and she was at the AG of Florida when Epstein got the sweetheart deal. So it seems like, you know, she's guilty of something.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I don't know what. I mean, if you accuse her of her crime, she'll get really mad. But she doesn't care about getting more transparency when all this comes out because you're going to find out more information that she was connected to Epstein all the way back in the Florida day. So she's been abysmal at her job. And she's been really in a course. All right, here we go. This is for you asked. Van Rui says, Alex.
Starting point is 01:47:45 What do you think the odds are that the jerky mentioned could possibly be placenta made into jerky? I bet 100%. Also, keep saving those big-booted Latinas. AOC wants you. I'll never stop. You guys know about how they do the rich people hire young guys to give them their blood? Yeah. Blood boys.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Blood boys. No. Silicon Valley. You never heard of blood boys. No. It's a common. It's very common. Wealthy Silicon Valley dudes.
Starting point is 01:48:07 They hire young men like 18, 19-year-olds to be body builders and to eat specific diets. So they have really good, healthy bodies. do drugs. Yeah, you can't do drugs and you got to eat a specific diet, like vegetables and protein, no sugars, and then they do a blood transfusion with you. Wow. So that the old, old guy gets the fresh young man's blood. And here's the truth. Young person's blood does rejuvenate old people's organs. Legit. Yeah, it does. So like these older guys will get a blood transition from a young guy, their organs are actually like de-aging. Fascinating. This is a fact that they do this. So when you get these wackaloons being like in the media claiming that the
Starting point is 01:48:45 The conspiracy theories are fake. How you thought I was going the other way. The media is like, it's not true. The conspiracy theories about rich people eating babies or whatever. No, no, no. Hold on. We know they have blood boys. They admit that openly.
Starting point is 01:48:54 You think they're not doing anything else? Like, bro, look at it. With all due respect, the only weirdo guy who wants to live forever that I respect is Brian Johnson. Because at least he's just like, I'm just eating food and doing weird stuff and taking the blood from my son. You know, he's not hiring anybody to do it. Well, if you take it from anybody, I think you're son. That's what he's doing, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:15 But there are benefits to it. And these people even take it further, though. They actually believe that the blood has anti-aging benefits. Well, okay, okay. I'm sorry. All kinds of stuff with him. Brian Johnson has discontinued using his then 17-year-old son's plasma for anti-aging. You got too old.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Well, the younger the blood, the more potent it is for your organs. Oh, legit. Brian Johnson, the guy who wants to live forever, was taking his own son's blood. You know, like, I'm just imagining his son, like, hooked up to a while. Brian Johnson's all ripped and, like, glistening, and his son has a tube coming from his arm, and he's, like, wasting away. Like, father, please. Well, the kid's fine, actually, because you just rejuvenate the blood, so it's really not that big a deal. Yeah, but there's only a fun and amount of cellular division that could happen.
Starting point is 01:49:56 So I imagine if you're taking someone's blood, you're actually hurting them. Yeah, I mean, I guess you would say their telomeres are a little shortened, but theoretically, like, if you're super healthy, I don't think it would lessen your lifespan that much to give somebody blood. I don't think that makes sense, though. You don't think? Well, people give blood all the time. They donate blood all the time. Indeed. And I have to imagine that it's deleterious.
Starting point is 01:50:15 I would agree. Actually, I would agree. Because even when I get blood for a blood test, I'm like, this seems like a lot of blood. Your body has to do work. Cells have to replicate. And there's a finite amount of cellular replication that your body can engage in. So giving away your blood probably shortens your lifespan. Yeah, probably just not that much.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Right. Depending on the factors of how you take care of yourself. Indeed. All right. What are we here? Lewis Unlimited says they're eating him in placenta from their baby farm. My wife didn't want her, so I cooked it up, taste like jerky, texture, and all. See, that's a cannibal.
Starting point is 01:50:49 In the chat. Guilty. If you are interested, giving blood too often does not shorten your lifespan. Whoa. That's what it is. It doesn't even be associated with longer life expectancy. Google AI says human placenta can be prepared to look and taste similar to jerky, and it is a known method of consumption.
Starting point is 01:51:08 It's called placentophagy. It is actually a known thing that some people do. Bro, that's probably what they were doing. Got a lot of stem cells in it, right? Yeah, that's part of it. That's what they were doing, bro. They like stem cells. And, you know, you were joking about Ellen DeGeneres does she eat people?
Starting point is 01:51:25 There's actually a famous video where they're talking about how she's with the, who's the famous actress that was from, what's a movie with a bus where the bus gets taken? Speed. What's that actress's name? Sandra Willick. She said that she rubs baby penis on her face. That's true, though. They make the cream. So if you're going to rub the foreskins of a baby's penis on your face, you don't think that they would put in their mouth?
Starting point is 01:51:49 I think I found another one. How is that that? Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. We got one. We got one. I think I found something. I think I found something.
Starting point is 01:51:55 What did you find? There's an email. It says, hey, Jeff, I'm staying in New York for a while in good rhythm with Torah, working and eating healthy. I started making those smoothie drink recipes. Your friend sent me really good. Another common form of placenta consumption is to dehydrate it and blend it into smoothies. That's what Google says. I'm not even playing.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Google says it's more commonly dehydrated, ground into powder, and blend it into smoothies. Legit. That's what it is. Could these just be dumb everyday emails about him talking to his peers about, like, like, a smoothie? If it's, if it's placenta, it's actually significantly less nefarious than children. But there's no reference of the placenta here.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Yeah. And he has millions of emails. And what would you like me to bring from New York a smoothie? That's right. I'm in New York. I'm going to fly on your jet and bring a strawberry. Berry smoothie. Doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:52:45 It would melt. Yo, there are a bunch of smoothie. Yeah. Why would you think that a placenta would actually be nefarious? Bro, what is the smoothies? Got so curious about them. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what?
Starting point is 01:53:01 You know, circumstances or something. You know, maybe it wasn't just like a loving family doing the placenta for the dad or whatever. I don't think that the, I don't think that eating the placenta. It could be from like, you know, I'm just saying, I said this earlier, there are instances where Planned Parenthood employees have stolen baby. Yeah, but you're also like,
Starting point is 01:53:18 if you've got a baby that's aborted, there's not, the placenta still really small. Right? Like the placenta. I don't know. I'm not a placenta expert. The same person who was emailing about jerky was emailing about smoothies too. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:53:34 I guess it's settled. We're eating children through jerky and we're eating It is a weird combination. Bro. Ilad, it literally is on Google A. I am not making anything up. Human placenta can be prepared to look and taste like jerky. It's plescentophagy.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Alternative preparation rather than jerky. It's more commonly dehydrated ground into powder and put into capsules or blend it into smoothies. And the same people are talking about eating jerky are talking about making smoothies as well and flying them from New York to the island, which makes no sense. Now I'm not saying that's literally what's happening, but this is a preponderance of evidence. Meaning it's worth investigating is that the case? Because why would you fly a smoothie from New York to the island?
Starting point is 01:54:10 We're not talking about Justin Hammer from Iron Man where he's sitting in the hangar being like, like my dessert. I like my dessert first. I flew it in. It's Italian. That's not normal. People don't really do that. He didn't, Jeff Rebson didn't have a lady, make a smoothie with strawberries and bananas, put in a cooler, started by a dry ice and fly to the island so he can enjoy it. He could literally just buy that stuff and put in his freezer there.
Starting point is 01:54:30 This was something else. I'm not saying it's placentas or babies, but it's worth looking into. They're using codes in their emails because what same person thinks that people are literally having this much beef jerky. I agree with you. These emails are odd. However, I don't think this is evidence of them eating babies. Who said that?
Starting point is 01:54:47 Who said that? Earlier, that's what Alex Stein was saying. Elad, I'm going to stop you right now. I'm going to stop you right now because my point is that Google is talking about in placentophagy, people do this, and you challenged my claim. Not what he was about eating babies. I'm saying, interesting. Google is talking about people who eat placenta, make jerky and smoothies,
Starting point is 01:55:08 and I went to Jeffrey Episie's email. and there are emails about people flying smoothies from New York to the island. And I said, that's weird. And you're like, no. And you're like, no. Santa in the emails? Do you want to see if there's a- Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:55:19 You took a big L.O.D. You took L.A. Well, Alex, you know, I'm frankly surprised that you don't think Erica Kirk's involved in the Charlie Kirk shooting. Why are you changing the subject, first of all? And why do you find it intolerance? I'm making fun of you, Alex. That's what's happening here.
Starting point is 01:55:32 I'm, because I don't think Eric's Kirk kills. I think there's, I think that it's funny that that's where you draw the line as far as conspiracy theories go. Talking about jerky in these emails, definitely means that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and his buddies are eating children. I don't know why you're trying to bring Erica Kirk into this. I think that's bizarre. I'm making fun of you.
Starting point is 01:55:46 I'm saying the line. You're talking about conspiracy theories. You're the Jeffrey. You're the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile apologist and you won't admit it. You think I'm a pedophile apologist because I don't believe that the jerky references are talking about children. No, I think it's specific. I think it's look better than he really is.
Starting point is 01:56:01 No, I think I think you use baseless accusations to make up BS for sensationalist BS. I don't think they're baseless. So that's, you know, my. All right, guys, we're going to grab some. chats. We're going to grab some more, but we can go to the uncensored show. You guys can yell at each other there. All right. Let's see. We got going up here. We got somebody, what's to say? Based, Afrikaans says, glad the hearings are finally being discussed here. It's been big news for a week, and I was worried y'all would pass on it. Bondi's pattering was unacceptable. Only
Starting point is 01:56:28 explanation is that the admin is lying for some reason, be it malicious or for foreign affairs. Did you guys see that one dude who's like Trump's doing 4D chess, where he's purposefully antagonizing the Epstein people to make everybody talk? about it. And I'm like, yeah, I think that's more accidental. I don't think Trump is intentionally trying to goad people into talking about Epstein files. It's 40 chess, man. 5D. Well, I mean, the Dow's up, so I don't know why we are even talking about it. I think we just need to worry about our portfolio. So that's kind of where I'm at. I'm in the Pan-Bondie
Starting point is 01:56:57 camp. Personally, I can't wait until the after show to listen to Lodd. Yeah. Hopefully we'll get into Steve Bannon's emails. Okay. I love that you want to talk about Steve Bannon. I don't think Steve Bannon is great that he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, but in those emails that I've read, it doesn't seem like they're talking about jerky, doesn't seem like they're talking about child porn. So to me, it seems like he was trying to rehabilitate his career. Yeah, how come there's nothing, how come there's nothing? How come there's nothing? I don't agree with it. How come there's nothing in the emails about hiring child prostitutes? Well, I think there is some weird stuff about like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:57:26 I'll tell you why. Okay, okay, okay, how about, how about you stop? Let me finish my point. There are emails that are euphemistic. There are also euphemistic emails about jerky and smoothies. The point is they don't explicitly say, hey, they're hiring child prostitutes. Okay. The point is, all of it is, is coded. I would agree. Okay. I don't think you know what is or isn't coded. And I'll tell you why they didn't mention children. You're right. Any of these emails, why? Because they mention jerky instead. So all these mentions of jerky are obviously talking about children. That's what you really think? No, I'm making fun of you guys. How you're making fun of me? Because I think it's ridiculous. I think these accusations of, of smoothies and jerkeys. Why are you so like,
Starting point is 01:58:05 Like, like, I don't, hold on, hold on, hold on. Like you're getting. Let me, let me lay down like this. Okay, okay, okay, hold on, hold on. Important point. I don't agree that the jerky means they're eating people or children. We don't know what it means. Elad, you are getting very, very angry, and you have been the whole time angry over people
Starting point is 01:58:22 wanting the Epstein files released. Which is weird. The whole time. And you've been like, Trump's right. This is a distraction. We shouldn't talk about it. And now I can say this. A rational person looks at Epstein's conversation around jerky and says, that is not
Starting point is 01:58:35 about jerky. I don't know what it is. And then you go, I'm going to make fun of you for asking that question. I already said that I think a lot of these emails are very hard. And why did you say I'm making fun of you for thinking that? Because you guys are ascribing crazy things. No, no, no, no, no, because I don't think, stop. I'm telling you explicitly. No, no, no, no, hold out, hold on. No, no, no, no. I have never stated that they're eating children. Okay. So stop saying to me that I said. Through smoothies, through this. When did I say that? Didn't you bring up how the placatas? I said Google pointed out that people. pulverized
Starting point is 01:59:05 placenta into smoothies and then you look at his conferences around smoothies and a sane person says regular
Starting point is 01:59:11 people don't talk about it like that. You keep going overboard. This is what we see often with woke. You take the point I'm making,
Starting point is 01:59:20 exaggerate it and then throw it back like it's not possible. Overly defensive. A rational person looks at Epstein's emails and says they are not
Starting point is 01:59:29 speaking plainly. Something else is going on. When the Pizza Gate emails came out and they said is it better to, is it more fun to having playing dominoes on pizza or on pasta? Everyone went, they're clearly not talking about either of those three things. But we don't
Starting point is 01:59:42 know what they are talking about. Now the conspiracy theorist said they're talking about doing drugs with like banging children, which is an exaggeration. We don't know exactly what they meant. You're taking the other extreme end of everyone's crazy. How dare you even bring it up? Okay. That's not rational. Can I respond? That's irrational. Okay. So I think people who are digging through these emails
Starting point is 01:59:58 are unreliable narrators and these people are just picking and choosing based on whatever preconceived conspiracies that they have to read into these emails specifically. That's the big issue with them. So I'm making fun of Alex Stein what he says, when he's reading into, when he's reading into children being in line.
Starting point is 02:00:15 By seeing jerky emails. He's not the, wait, if I can finish. You made your point. You're gish galloping. No, I'm not gish galloping. Yes, you are absolutely. Alex, please. So you're not going to let me finish my point.
Starting point is 02:00:24 I'm not. Okay, good. Because you're making 15 at once. Okay, you're gish galloping. Okay, you want to say one thing, Alex Stein exaggerated to the point and has no evidence to his claim. Point done, one sentence.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Okay, when you say 15 things after the fact and don't let anybody respond, you're gish galloping. I feel like I've given you ample opportunity to respond. You won't stop talking. Tim. You've made a single point. Make one point right now, one.
Starting point is 02:00:48 And then stop talking. These people are unreliable narrators and reading into the Epstein fight. And stop. Okay. What's your point? These are unreliable narrators, making shit up to try to tart
Starting point is 02:00:58 and feather their political opponent. And now that's all that's happening here. We'll go back to, do you think a rational person reads that conversation of jerky and says that's a normal conversation? No, but I also think a rational person doesn't read that conversation and says, oh, there's a child eating pedophile sex ring as a result of people. Okay. Well, Alex is. Well, Alex is. So I'm directing this to Alex.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Good. You are taking an extreme position against Alex's extreme position. You are being irrational. I've already said. What was my extreme position? Tell me. I have already said that Alex is. is reading too much into it.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Okay. It's my extreme position. I'm making fun of you. That is not a big deal. I'm making fun of you, Tim, for asking a question about why they're talking about flying a smoothie from New York to their island. You got mad about that. I think that is irrational. Weird.
Starting point is 02:01:46 A regular person will go, why was he asking them to fly smoothies from New York to his island? What is that, is that, that's weird. Bro, I fly in private jets all the time. We don't say, hey, get a bunch of smoothies and put him to cool and bring them on the jet. That's a stupid. thing imaginable. You're going to be in the jet for 40, 40 minutes to an hour. It's going to melt and be worthless. Unless you're talking about giving them out and eating them, but he's on an island, asking him to ferry something to him. So it's fair to say they are talking about many things in these
Starting point is 02:02:11 emails that are not what they're actually talking about. I've submitted to you that there are already many odd emails in Jeffrey Epstein's files. And you seem to be getting irrationally defensive when people bring up the Epstein files and you have even before these emails came out. Well, I'm trying to explain to you that this is all political theatrics. Again, these people who are talking about these files, for the most part, are unreliable narratives and trying to tart and feather their political opponents. Wait, can I finish, please.
Starting point is 02:02:36 That's why some people... All right, so I can't finish my... No, but how is it political theatres? Gish-galoping. There's people on both sides that are implicated. I've barely gotten a word in our conversation. I'm not gish-galoping at all. Half of the people talking about these files
Starting point is 02:02:48 are talking about how Trump is allegedly a pedophile. Thomas Massey is coming out in these files, alleging people who aren't involved in anything of being pedophiles, and people are reading through these files. Who? So, you've made three points. Yes. and again, you can say,
Starting point is 02:03:02 Thomas Massey made what claim? He alleged like four people who weren't pedophiles were or were involved in Jeffrey Epstein's affairs. I could read to you the names, but this is widely reported. I'd need to pull up the news article. Right. So the issue I take, specifically with you,
Starting point is 02:03:17 and before we're about to go to the uncensored portion, is I am largely neutral on this in that I have been the whole time. I've argued that Trump's concerns over the recently relates to the Epstein files is that it's going to embarrass people who didn't commit crimes but did things that were untoward, or there's going to be people who are Saudi, where in their country they're allowed to have sex with 15-year-old girls, and that's going to get them screwed over seriously in the United States,
Starting point is 02:03:40 which has actually happened now. We're seeing, I think it was a Qatari or a Saudi. I'm not sure I had to resign from a position or something because they can't work in the U.S. with these allegations. I have never been on the jerky must-mean people, and I've argued against the pizza means boy and pasta means girls, because I know for a fact that was fabricated. However, Epstein files should be released. Trump should not have called it a hoax. Pam Bondi has on a terrible job of this.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Dan and Cash have flubbed this miserably as well. And now we're getting more evidence. Videos and pictures of children, little girls in bathtubs. They're censored, but you can still tell it's a little girl in a bathtub that Epstein had for some reason. Clearly they have child abuse materials. We now know that when they were like, no, no, there's no evidence that Epstein was trafficking to anyone else and Gieland was trafficking.
Starting point is 02:04:26 to Epstein. We now know between these conversations, that is likely a high degree of probability, not true. People talking about going to parties, Noam Chomsky saying, I want $500,000 for my marriage trust. And they were like, did you mean 50 or 500? He goes, I mean 500. What did Nome Chomsky do for Epstein on that island that warranted him getting a payment of 500,000 dollars? It's all very weird stuff. They are not doing normal things normal people do. And Trump was trying to cover it up for whatever reason, calling it a hoax. And my point for you, you, and we're going to go the incensored portion, again, I know we've got to go, is that the whole time we've argued this, you said Massey is wrong and it's a distraction and it's bad faith,
Starting point is 02:05:05 and I'm like, uh, why was Noam Chomsky saying I'm fantasizing about going on your island, and you should give me 500 grand? Why was Reid Hoffman saying, I'm going to these parties? Why were they saying torture videos? Why are they talking about getting young girls, the naughty little ones? Why wouldn't you name any right-way person who's allegedly implicated though? See, for example, all the people, you haven't named him though. We talked about him on the show all last week. I brought up several times. On the people that you just named, Reed Hoffman, Noam Chomsky, my point is that when people are talking about these files,
Starting point is 02:05:31 they're not talking about the whole of them. They're just using it to tar and feather their political opponents. Literally everybody's talking about it. Thomas Massey and Rokane. Both of these people are not talking about it. Are you in the Epstein files? No, the way that they're- Name a right-wing person in the Epstein files you're concerned about.
Starting point is 02:05:45 Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon is not implicated in the Epstein files for being trafficking children. Sure, but he is implicated for being friends with a convicted pedophiles. Almost 2008, which is the same thing that Pritzker's cousin did. He was only talking allegedly with Epsine post 2008, and he was still forced to I cited the people who were presumed to be involved in trafficking. There was an evidence of Lutnik. This is a bad faith.
Starting point is 02:06:11 No, it isn't. You're an unreliable narrator. You're an unreliable narrator. When I point out that there are people that were talking in ways that sound like they're getting young girls and asking for large sums of money in weird ways, you immediately defer to, but what about Bannon's documentary? You're a bad faith actor.
Starting point is 02:06:31 No, I think you're being bad faith in. What about, what about Bannon's documentary? What does Bannon's documentary have to do with the guy saying, I fantasize about being on your island? I think it's disgusting when people are trying to rehabilitate a convicted pedophile. I would agree. I would agree that. Well, you guys seem to focus on the way. Howard Lennick, for example, also. They're not talking in coded language about creepy stuff. Yes, they are. You haven't read his emails.
Starting point is 02:06:50 He has thousands of emails with Bannon. I don't care. I don't All the emails. They're not that bad. And we have talked about Bannon and Lutnik. And when I mentioned traffickers, you defer to politics. And Bannan's ever lied. You're bad faith. You're unreliable to that's rich. Lutnik said he never talked to him. And then that was a lie. He took his family to the island.
Starting point is 02:07:08 So I think the people that are lying about the relationship are the ones that are hiding the most. So, you know, I think it's a possibility that you could be friends with Jeffrey Epstein and not be a pedophile. But when you're using coded language and talking about weird things like jerky, you're probably the ones that are doing the weird stuff like. We are going to the uncensored portion of the show right now. Also smash the like button, share the show. Stay tuned because it's going to get rowdier, I suppose, and we'll talk more about the Epstein stuff. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
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