Timcast IRL - EPSTEIN Files DROP, FBI GOES ROGUE, AG Says They COVERED UP Epstein Case w/Amber Duke
Episode Date: February 28, 2025Tim, Phil, & Mary are joined by Amber Duke to discuss the NY FBI going rogue and refusing to release documents related to Jeffrey Epstein, Kash Patel vowing to pursue anyone covering up Epstein docs, ...another insurance CEO targeted in an attack, and reports that the would-be Trump assassin may have had an accomplice. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Mary @PopCultureCrisis (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Amber Duke @ambermarieduke (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today, the Epstein's file, the Epstein files dropped, but it's a large nothing burger.
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And there's no.
No, I'm kidding.
So surprised was I when I see this photo of the White House with a ton of influencers, many of whom, like I think every single one of them have been on the show, and they're all holding up binders.
The Epstein Files Phase One.
Well, sure enough, an unnamed source reached out to me and basically gave me the entire scoop on how this all went down.
This was not a planned event.
I believe,
none of the influencers
went to the White House,
knew they would be handed
this packet, this binder.
The information was embargoed
until a certain amount of time,
though some people still were able to,
did leak and release information
ahead of time.
The information released is new,
a lot of it,
but it's largely being viewed
as not much. Now, the real story is that
the AG Pambandi released a letter effectively saying the Southern District of New York FBI
field office has gone rogue, has ignored her orders, defied her as the AG and refused turnover
evidence and thousands of pages of Epstein documents. There's a lot of conspiracies
swirling around how this went down. But based on the information that I have gathered from
numerous individuals, this looks like a stunt of some sort, that there was an intention to drum up
some PR around the Epstein files. And there's a few theories, one that the SDNY has gone rogue
and thus the AG is trying to find a way to generate public sentiment that would allow them to make a move against them to get these documents.
According to this letter, the Epstein files should be in the hands of the AG by tomorrow at 8 a.m.
But that doesn't mean they will be released.
Another view is that this stunt was done to buy time for the AG to be able to go through these documents or delay their release. And lastly,
the big conspiracy is this stunt was performed to throw SD and a southern district of New York under the bus so that they can later claim the documents had been destroyed. As we had already
heard earlier in the week, a whistleblower said the FBI had been destroying Epstein evidence.
Then a week from now or whatever, as the conspiracy theorists believe, Pam Bondi or someone in the government is going to come out and be like, oh, no, oh, they've destroyed all the evidence.
We really don't know.
But I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to give you the full details the best I can.
We also have a bunch of other news.
Of course, we've got a crazy story about a trans individual who was arrested trying to plant bombs at a Tesla dealership, which we'll talk about for sure.
And I got to be honest, we're largely going to be going over much of this Epstein stuff.
Kash Patel is chiming in.
We've got information on Thomas Crooks.
There's a potential had an accomplice.
A lot of stuff is coming out.
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I was actually in contact with several of these individuals, as many of them are friends of the show.
And it looks like a setup.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we have Amber Duke.
Hi, everybody.
Amber Duke here.
I'm the senior editor for The Daily Caller, the co-host of Free Media at Reason and the
co-host of The Hills Rising.
You can check out my book, The Snowflakes Revolt, How Woke Millennials Hijacked American
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Ladies and gentlemen,
let's get started with the letter in question.
So earlier today I saw this viral photo of many individuals that were
holding up these Epstein binders. Can we can we
pull this one up? So this is a letter that was accompanying the binders themselves. It's a letter
from A.G. Pamela Bondi, and it reads, Dear Director Patel, before you came into office, I requested
the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received
approximately 200 pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts and a list of victims names and phone numbers.
I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of documents responsive to my request and was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received the full set of documents.
Late yesterday, I learned from a source that the FBI field office in New York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and indictment of Epstein.
Despite my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence
of these files. When you and I spoke yesterday, you were just as surprised as I was to learn this
new information. By 8 a.m. tomorrow, February 28th, the FBI will deliver the full and complete
Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings
and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained. There will be no withholdings or limitations to
my or your access. The Department of Justice will ensure that any public disclosure of these files
will be done in a manner to protect the privacy of victims and in accordance with the law,
as I have done my entire career as a prosecutor. I am also directing you to conduct an immediate
investigation into why my order to the FBI was not followed. You will deliver to me a comprehensive report of your findings and
proposed personal personnel action within 14 days. I appreciate your immediate attention to this
matter, to this important matter. I know that we are both committed to transparency for the
American people, and I look forward to continuing to work with you to serve our president and our
country. Now, the information that's come out so
far has since been published on Justice.gov. Attorney General Pamela Bondi releases first
phase of declassified Epstein files. When the files first were released in these binders,
the individuals at the White House were instructed there would be an embargo. And this means,
for those that are familiar, you cannot release this until a certain date or time.
It was supposed to be a couple hours after they received these binders, they could start releasing information.
Many people began to wonder why it was.
A number of these influencers had very similar statements about transparency and the greatest, most transparent administration, despite not actually releasing any of this information. Later on the day, only a few hours ago,
several of these individuals began to scan and publish these files.
Interestingly, as an aside,
I saw Laura Loomer working very hard to get these documents released,
working with Haya Raichik, who had one of these binders,
and they kept getting suspended on these various platforms
for some reason or another.
They did eventually get released,
and then we actually have the Justice Department publishing all of the information, which are largely flight
logs, an evidence list, a contact book and a masseuse list, which is presumably victims.
Let me give you the quick breakdown, as it was told to be by a couple different individuals who
attended. You may have seen the photos. Actually, I wonder if I have the photo I can pull up somewhere.
I do, in fact, have one of the photos.
This is an image of, we got DC Drano.
We got Haya Raichik.
We've got Liz Wheeler, Mike Cernovich, all holding up these binders that read,
Epstein Files, Phase 1.
Now, I spoke with a handful of these people.
Some are very happy.
Some are a little bit perturbed.
It appears that this was a PR stunt. So let me give you the breakdown.
This was not a planned event. As far as I know, you may be thinking, how come?
How come Tim wasn't there at that event? Well, it wasn't a planned event.
This was at some point. Several individuals were invited to do a meet and greet and talk with the press team in the White House.
None of them had any idea that they would be handed or at least as far as I know, the individuals I've spoken to,
none of them had any idea that they'd be handed these binders. When they were, they were told
that there was an embargo until something was going to happen related to the release, so
don't show off anything that's in it. Now, the question then becomes, how do these photos emerge? Well, I can only assume based on the fact the White House has numerous exits and the
fact they handed very big binders to prominent conservative influencers.
The intention was to lead them out where the press was and get the press, take all of these
photos, thus creating a massive press storm for this.
At the same time, this letter was released and ended up
dropping earlier than the embargo was supposed to be. And the letter doesn't need to exist.
Many people have rightly questioned this. Why would the attorney general write a letter to
Kash Patel where she literally says, I talked to you yesterday? You don't need to do that.
She could simply send him a text message. That would imply the purpose of this letter was to create public notification that with the release
of this letter and conservative influencers getting access to it, the public would be made
aware that the attorney general is deeply angered by the fact that the Southern District of New York,
the FBI field office, was intentionally withholding Epstein documents in defiance
of the AG's order.
There's a lot of conspiracies running around as to why this is. I'm going to go with Occam's razor.
I believe SDNY is deeply corrupt. This is this is the same office that was going after James O'Keefe.
This is New York, where they went after Trump with fake criminal charges. I do not believe
these people are honest, and I believe that it is reasonable to assume FBI New York has gone rogue.
That is, they're defying the orders of this elected government and the attorney general.
And thus, if I was going to make an assumption, obviously, I think it's fair to say this is
a PR maneuver.
That's why the letter exists.
Otherwise, it doesn't need to.
Having these influencers with millions of followers plus combined being
photographed by the press in every direction, that can't be an accident. I think what happens is
Pam Bondi knows SDNY is rogue and is defying her orders and instructions. But how do you deal with
these people if she comes out and says, we are going to send in the troops and go raid this
office? First of all, you're going to get a huge backlash politically. It's going to generate confusion.
And more importantly, they may scramble and begin to start destroying files. A move like this can
put scrutiny on the office, making it very difficult for them to move things in or out
without getting public attention, as she has just called them out directly as the office.
Simply put, I believe that Pam Bondi wanted there to be a major press
storm pertaining to the rogue office in New York to give them public support for actions against
them so Kash Patel can move in without any kind of backlash, without any kind of evidence
destruction, or at least to the best of their abilities, they could move in. I don't know for
sure, but there are some people who believe the purpose of this
is to scapegoat the Southern District of New York FBI office so that in the coming days,
when they eventually do not release the Epstein documents, which everyone's been demanding,
they can say the evidence has been destroyed, find a scapegoat patsy of some random lawyer or
analyst and say he did it. And then who knows why? But I don't know
for sure. So I'm curious what the panel thinks. Well, I was talking to Chad Prather earlier,
who was one of the influencers who was there. I actually ran into him on my way to Newsmax in the
elevator. And he was confirming what you said, that he did not think that he was going to the
White House to get the Epstein files. They were there to meet with Vice President J.D. Vance to talk about messaging for the administration,
the conservative movement. And basically, this got dropped on their laps. They told them that
they weren't supposed to open these binders until after they left the White House. But
one thing of note in here in these pictures that I'm seeing is that they're being escorted back
from the Eisenhower Executive Office building, which is right next door to the White House and is where a lot of these meetings take place.
And they go right to this area, which is known among the press corps as the sticks,
which is where when foreign leaders, other politicians go to meet with the president,
they will leave through the Oval Office door that's right there on the left where the Marines are standing.
And the sticks are where they do interviews with the press.
And that's where they took the photo op.
So wait, they could have walked them out any other exit.
They could have taken them out through the EEOB street exit, or they could have just
kept going past the press tents, what's known as Pebble Beach, where all the green tents
are, where the correspondents do their interviews.
But they took them over to the Oval, where the sticks are,
and then had this huge photo op.
So it's a stunt.
Obviously.
But what's the purpose of it?
So I'm not as optimistic as you that this was all to just call out the SDNY.
I think Pam Bondi overpromised a bit because she was on Jesse Waters last night
talking about how this was all so sick and the first batch was going to come out.
But she didn't hint that this was going to be a nothing burger.
I mean, if you look at the masseuse list, for example, the entire thing is just blacked out, which is understandable because these are victims, right?
You can't put out their names.
But then all of the addresses, phone numbers, everything is all redacted.
The only thing you get are the names in Epstein's address book.
This is a guy with tons of money tons of influence and access of course everybody is in that access book so it doesn't really tell us anything the only thing of note which chad admitted
to me was this letter in the front of it that they wanted to put out but i think it's a simultaneously
putting the burden on sdny but also the Trump admin a little bit covering their butts because they have been promising these documents. I feel like if she didn't have the
thousand documents that she's talking about on her desk, then she shouldn't have been making this big
show of it until she had access to them. And that's interesting because I'm going to say it
again. Occam's razor. What is the simple solution here? And what I should say is it bears clarification
in the absence of evidence, the solution that
makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct.
That is, Pam Bondi over-promised on TV, probably unscripted.
What was she, with Jesse Waters, when she said, I've got it on my desk?
Yeah.
And maybe it's just, you're on TV, there's no prompter, you're in the heat of the moment,
and you just say, look, I got it on my desk.
And they're like, you do?
And then she went, oh, crap, I've got some flight logs on my desk.
Realized it was a big nothing burger and needed to figure something out.
That seems to make sense.
However, it's not necessarily the simplest of solutions.
We know that, look, Southern District of New York went after James O'Keefe.
This is the same, it's not the same office necessarily that went after Trump, but it is New York went after James O'Keefe. This is this is the same. It's not the same office necessarily went after Trump because but it is New York in this same jurisdiction, essentially
at the state level that went after Donald Trump with false charges. I am not surprised in the
least bit to hear that the AG requested documents and they did not turn them over and are resisting
because of all of the offices, this is the one that's presumed to
be the most. Well, there's two, the D.C. field office and I believe SDNY were considered to be
deeply corrupt. So I do believe it is entirely possible that Pam Bondi was like she got a call.
Well, actually, let's let's pause. She did go on TV and said, I got the Epstein list on my desk.
But they all the story is also that it wasn't until last
night, I believe, that she got a call from a whistleblower saying there's more documents.
So she did promise this would be it. I think it's fair to say that the SDNY is probably doing
what she's accusing them of. But I would say, you know, she did a press conference, I think it was
last week, announcing that she was filing these charges against Letitia James and Kathy Hochul and the DMV
guy in New York. And that got tons of press attention. So I don't know why she couldn't
have done the exact same thing to levy the charges against the SDNY. Why do you have to
trot out the influencers with this binder? I, you know, I just did a quick search on this.
This is the office where they were going after Eric Adams. And when Pam Bondi and the Trump
administration instructed them to drop the charges, they started resigning in mass. Like these people
are deep, like leftist ideologues. Maybe there's nothing related to the Epstein list. Maybe they're
trying to find a way to purge out this ideologically driven office. Who knows? Could be. But I'll tell
you, they're claiming, Pam Bondi says
you will, the FBI will, she's
basically telling Cash, like, I'm your boss,
I want the FBI to give me these documents tomorrow
morning. The question is, tomorrow,
12 hours from now, are they going to get them?
I don't know. I really hope they do.
I think that, I think
there's a lot of people that
are going to look at this and they're just going to
feel like the administration is dodging.
Yeah. And regardless of of if substance doesn't come soon.
And I think that I think that this even overshadows the the letter that she sent to New York's Southern District, which I do think that it's likely that they're
covering stuff up. They're trying to
protect people that
have been
somehow
broken the law or whatever, but
I think that it's a bad look
to do the whole...
I've got a clarification and a correction.
I just did a quick search.
The Southern District of New York has conducted multiple investigations involving Trump. The Michael Cohen investigation, the inaugural committee investigation to Stormy Daniels. So that is the hush money case that they've brought against Trump.
I believe that was at the state level, though.
I could be wrong.
My apologies, but like so much has happened.
It kind of just mud muddles together.
You know, the theory that this is some kind of 40 chess scheme on Pan Bondi's part against SDNY just doesn't hold up
in my view. I think it's true that she overpromised and maybe an unintended consequences
that people are realizing the corruption of SDNY. But I do not believe the narrative that she was
planning this whole press manipulation all along to turn people's attention. And even if she did, it's clearly not working because the main narrative that I'm seeing so far
is that people are angry at her and at the Trump administration for overpromising
and what appears to be lying to the public about what they were going to get access to.
And that's what I'm mad about. It also doesn't justify the fact that the House Judiciary
official account for the the House Judiciary GOP Rickrolled us. Yeah, literally. First of all,
that's not even a funny meme in 2025. It's been like 15 years since anyone thought that was funny.
But second of all, that is so deeply disrespectful, not only to the people who voted this administration into power, but also deeply disrespectful to the victims of child trafficking that are in question.
Let me pull this up.
We have this tweet from the House Judiciary GOP breaking Epstein files released.
And there's a link here.
Should I click the link?
I'll click the link.
And it redirects to tiny url which redirects to
youtube i love how they blocked the rickroll they're like don't do it don't click it
okay we get it this lit people up 4.5 million views george alexopolis aka g prime 85 says
women were raped the monsters who organized and participated still walk among us
and you're joking about it 4.5 million views and 6.1 thousand likes like this is not a good look
no not at all absolutely so even if this was some kind of like grand scheme that pam bondy
formulated to turn media attention to state corruption um it's not working it just makes
you look like an idiot yeah i mean there are people in my in my mentions and on twitter that
are just like yo let every let tim know that everybody's blah blah blah they're that are like
genuinely angry about this but then there are other people who are coping and they're like no
it's actually hilarious if you really like squint and tilt your head and think about it.
It's not funny.
No, not at all.
It's not funny at all.
And then there are other people,
when I pointed this out, saying like,
oh, well, someone's jealous
that they weren't invited to the win.
Oh, that's so annoying.
Now, I will say, a lot of people are jealous
they were not invited to this thing.
Absolutely.
There were people who were.
I would say, on the influencer side, though,
I mean, I know a lot of these people.
I'm friends with a lot of these people.
I like them.
I respect them.
If I had gotten this document, I would have been immediately scanning everything as quickly as possible.
And I would have had a link with all of the documents in it ASAP.
Like, I would not be posting repeated pictures.
I would not be posting the press statement from the White House about how this is the most transparent administration in history.
Give people the information. Like, I'm not trying to wait for libs of TikTok to go through and give me the highlights. No offense. I mean, who cares about that? Get invited to the White
House. I'm sure it was a lame party anyway. I mean, that line, though, the the line that they
kept repeating about this is the most transparent administration in history. It was copy and pasted. It sounded like, this is why I don't think
it was necessarily something they were blindsided by.
It sounds like something was sent to them
in an email for social media deliverables.
They were blindsided.
And why are they copy and pasting the same statement
over and over all over the timeline?
So first I will say this.
It's not that I'm jealous that they didn't invite me.
It's that I'm hurt.
Disappointed.
My friends flew in to D.C. and didn't tell me they were coming.
And I'm calling people.
I'm like, bro, are you in D.C.?
Come on, man.
At least come get a burger with me.
I don't care about the White House.
How could you guys?
No, but I talked to a handful of people, and this is why I – that actually is genuinely why I believe they were blindsided by this.
A handful of these people are good friends of ours, friends of the show.
And I asked them, and I was like, hey, like, what went down today?
And they were like, we had no idea this was happening.
And, like, some of my friends were like, bro, if they told us we were going to do something, I would have hit you up immediately and said, bro, come quick.
You know what I mean?
And I'm like, oh, it's whatever. Like the only thing
that I was saying is come on the show, man. But everybody's flying out. Everybody's like,
I can't because we're leaving. We came in here for a meet and greet. I do believe that most of
the people had no idea this was going to happen. Now, the question is, why are they all tweeting
the most transparent administration? Why are they all taking selfies? There's a reason why I think the people who got invited got invited. I don't mean to be to be
disrespectful to them, but they're not journalists. Now, I can some of them are some of them are,
but they're largely personalities and influencers. They lean more towards the influencer space.
But I don't want to say that of all of them, because I don't want to impugn anyone's honor.
I think Mike Cernovich certainly does does he deserves half the credit for the breaking
of the epstein story in the first place because he worked i think it was with the mike yeah he
worked on this filing documents to get it released so did i believe it was the miami herald that
could be wrong uh so some of these people there you'll see they're not posting these selfies
but i think the strategy from the white house was we don't want Amber Duke to show up, start scanning
the documents right away. We want people who are going to be happy to be here, who are going to
say, look, the message is we are being transparent. We are the most transparent. Here's the binder.
Don't share anything that's in it just yet. And what are a bunch of these people going to do?
Selfie. Bang. Look at me. I got a binder. People were straight up tweeting. I got a binder people were straight up tweeting i got a binder and it's like
yeah okay dude i don't care what's in it taking the selfie in and of itself is so ghoulish
you know like there's no sensitivity it's not sensitivity it's there's no gesture at
understanding the gravity of the situation i feel that i have to share this now to get ahead of it because this is a brewing scandal.
I was forced to take a selfie with the Epstein binder.
You were?
At Newsmax.
Of course.
Ugh.
Of course.
I was mic'd up.
I didn't know what to do.
And I'm in a selfie with the Epstein binder.
And I'm so sorry.
Someone say, like, hey, get a picture of the binder?
Yeah, because the issue is—
It's tough.
Tough look.
This is PR strategy.
So this look, maybe maybe Mary, you're correct that Pam Bonnie didn't plan this for DHS
and weeks in advance.
But certainly whatever happened today was preplanned in that they made binders and made
this letter to cash.
She could have literally called cash and say, yo, WTF, like they're not giving me the documents.
Get me those documents.
Click.
End of story.
She drafted this beautiful letter and then gave it to everybody.
That was a PR stunt for whatever reason, for whatever it was planned.
It literally happened.
Someone super chatted very simply, why was their messaging the same?
They all just got out of a messaging meeting with Vance.
They were going to meet with Vance about messaging.
And Vance is probably like, we're the most transparent administration ever here.
You know, and they handed the binders out and then everybody tweeted it.
Literally not every single person tweeted, but a lot of them did.
Not because they were told to do it, but because they were told it.
What, they just have peanuts for brains?
Talk to them about that.
Just repeating the words that they heard. It sounds like it was in an email in a PR packet that was given to the influencers ahead of time or afterwards.
Yeah, they might have gotten a fact sheet after.
Yes.
The email, not in advance.
They'll do a briefing and then they'll send a fact sheet once you leave to help inform your story.
So that's what they do.
The people that I spoke to who were there, a handful of them, and they all told me the same thing and they're not lying to me like there's
other like these are people that I deeply trust that we've had on the show that have confided in
me crazy things in the past that have said you know either something will be on background or
off the record and I maintain that privacy for a lot of these individuals and i have heard the same story even independent of what i was told amber had the same story from
chad being like we didn't even know this was happening well in that case i'm gonna believe
they it was bullet points that were given to them after the fact that makes sense a fact sheet or
like talking points yeah and that's pretty standard right and not everybody tweeted the same thing
but a lot of them did yeah like i said i
mean as far as i'm concerned this is this is a an unforced error and there are people that were
already deeply skeptical of pam bondy now this is this they are a narrow group of people people
that are gun owners and and 2a advocates and stuff they they were very skeptical of Pam Bondi, and I think that this did nothing to help that skepticism.
Not that it's not the end of the world,
but it does make the administration look kind of,
you know, makes them look bad.
And now they really have to deliver now
because this was bungled,
and people are more focused on the influencer part of it than they are on what was in the files because the files had nothing in them.
So if they don't release phase two or phase three and those are not bombshells, they're in trouble.
There are two potential outcomes, two principal outcomes from this that I think are most likely.
One is tomorrow morning, someone cash or otherwise they confirm the documents in full have been transferred to the AG's office and they're working on redactions or whatever, wherever that leads.
The other is SDNY gets raided by the D.C. office or some law enforcement because the message that Pam Bondi has sent out is FBI's field office has gone rogue and has defied the orders of the attorney general. If tomorrow morning they do not confirm receipt of these documents, they may as well say we have no power and the FBI office is its own agency independent of our government.
Look, if Internal Affairs raids the FBI Southern District offices and stuff tomorrow, if they're gearing up for a full-on
FBI raiding the FBI raid.
How could they not?
I would love to see it.
I would love to see it.
Unless they say, we got the documents.
And then if they do, it's going to be people outside screaming rabble, rabble, rabble,
demanding the documents be published.
So how do they navigate whatever this is?
Whether it's an, what did you call it?
Unforced error?
Yeah, unforced error.
Either it's, or it's on purpose, the principal outcomes are going to be, it is substantially
worse now that this story is so massive.
It's a Thursday night.
We shouldn't be getting this viewership, 4.5 million views on a stupid joke.
The attention on this is massive because people want the Epstein information. If SDNY does not deliver or for that matter, if they do and Pam Bondi says they didn't, people are going to be screaming outside of SDNY demanding law enforcement move in.
So whatever happened today, it has created a tinderbox for tomorrow.
Something has to happen. Yeah. And this early in the in the administration, you don't want to have a significant, serious shake in faith, you know, of the people of the people actually doing things.
I mean, you're I see you smirking, Mary.
You're a skeptic of everything all the time anyways.
And you're like, let it burn it's also it's strange to me that this became uh happening in the first place because most people who voted for trump
don't care about the epstein files they just care about getting inflation under control and
closing the border yeah i agree so why are we even if you weren't planning to deliver on the
promise well first of all don't promise it in the first place but also just shut your mouth because unless it's real unless it's real yeah unless pam bondy was like
hey let's release the epstein files and sdny lied to her and then she found out they lied to her and
also part of the nothing ever happens gang yeah again so look i don't think that was ever planned
you're you're right it is it is kind of like it's a very and i've said this before, it's a very narrow group of people that care about this.
But the thing is, they care a lot.
So there may not be, it's not a very broad group of people that are going to be like, yeah, we need to know.
This is actually, this is kind of red meat for a particular constituency.
But those people are very invested and they'll be very vocal on the interwebs and donald trump looks at the
interwebs and he's he wants to please the people look look what he did for tiktok you know like
tiktok was was in my opinion it was a bad idea to to say oh we're just going to go ahead and make a
concessions for tiktok but he did it because tiktok would be vocally against him he wants
people to like him he wants to look on the internet he wants people to like him he does he wants to look on the internet and see people saying nice things
about him so that's a big part of part of why he's doing this i i will just say outside of all of
this it is a fact okay it's not literally a fact but i think any reasonable person can conclude
donald trump's administration hates s SDNY with a passion.
They went after him.
They went after Eric Adams.
Trump tries, they or him to drop the charges.
They resign in protest.
They file lawsuits to stop the dismissal of the charges.
The craziest thing I ever heard is that the federal government was prosecuting Eric Adams.
The DOJ cuts a deal with the mayor, which is par for the course in law enforcement every single day.
A cop, a prosecutor will say, if you snitch, if you do this, if you help us with that,
we'll drop the charges every day.
And when the DOJ did with Eric Adams, SDNY, they quit in protest.
Lawsuits are filed and a judge ruled they couldn't drop the charges they were prosecuting.
They're also trying to dismiss it without prejudice so they could bring the charges back at any time.
So, yeah.
The Trump administration wanted that?
Yeah, exactly.
Interesting.
So if Eric Adams didn't play ball, they could bring the charges back.
Or if he did play ball and they decided that the evidence was so serious that they needed to move ahead anyway, they could wait until the administration is coming to an end and they could bring them back.
It's not even a free pass. No, it's not a free pass.
But I will say, you know, I've done briefings with DOJ officials on this issue and they do believe that it was a politically motivated prosecution against Eric Adams, and they feel like the evidence is pretty thin. I agree. When you look at the timeline on Eric Adams, let me do this.
Let's start here before we jump into the Eric Adams stuff, because we did get a statement from
Cash Patel. This is breaking from the Postmillennial. Cash Patel vows to swiftly pursue
those who undermine the FBI after A.G. Pambondi reveals FBI NY withheld Epstein documents. So Cash has posted
this statement. The FBI is entering a new era, one that will be defined by integrity, accountability
and the unwavering pursuit of justice. There will be no cover ups, no missing documents and no stone
left unturned. And anyone from the prior or current bureau who undermines this will be swiftly
pursued. If there are gaps, we will find them.
If records have been hidden, we will uncover them.
And we will bring everything we find to the DOJ to be fully assessed and transparently disseminated to the American people.
It should be the oath we take is that the Constitution and under my leadership, that promise will be upheld without without compromise. So for those just tuning in, the conversation we're having is the Southern District of New York and the FBI field office are being accused of intentionally covering up
Epstein documents, hiding them from the AG who ordered them. Now, we don't know exactly what's
going on, but on the surface, the story is Pam Bondi was was contacted by a whistleblower who
said. The FBI office in New York is is sitting on thousands
of documents, audio and video that they have not turned over to you. It's evidence.
She then wrote a letter to Kash Patel, which seems very obvious, was intended to be made public,
saying, I demand that these documents be handed over to me and you assess what happened and why.
The important context that we're getting into, the Southern District of New York has gone after Trump,
gone after Trump's lawyers, and recently was going after Mayor Eric Adams.
Amber just pointed out that you said you spoke with prosecutors.
Yes, DOJ officials who are trying to get the SDNY to drop the charges.
They're moving to have it dismissed without prejudice, which means that they could bring the charges again at a later date.
This is where everything gets crazy.
The DOJ comes in under a newly elected Trump administration and says, Eric Adams, we want you to work with us.
And if you agree to, we'll drop the charges for now.
Eric Adams says, I will play ball.
The DOJ that instructs the Southern District of New York, your attorney's office, to drop the charges and they refuse.
Several of these individuals in the office begin resigning in protest.
A lawsuit is filed and a judge decides.
This is this is insane.
No, you can't drop the charges you're pursuing.
What?
Who's going to prosecute it?
The judge is now saying a special special prosecutor is coming in.
I think it is patently obvious. Who's going to prosecute it? The judge is now saying a special special prosecutor is coming in.
I think it is patently obvious. New York, the federal the federal offices are no longer federal.
They are rogue and operating under some kind of who knows what.
Maybe the Democratic Party machine. I don't know.
But they're they're obviously working in tandem with the state government, who also filed false criminal charges against Donald Trump
and even falsely convicted him of that. And this is not abnormal because under the Biden
administration, the Richmond field office of the FBI got in trouble because they sent out a memo
to field agents telling them to infiltrate traditional Catholic churches and TLMs,
traditional Latin masses, because the people who attend those masses might become, quote unquote,
domestic terrorists. And actually, that memo did spread to other field offices as well. And when Chris
Wray found out about it, he claimed that he didn't know anything about it. I don't know how true that
is. But still, it's not abnormal for these offices to kind of do their own thing and then get a slap
on the wrist from the FBI headquarters. And the other thing on the Eric Adams case that I would
mention, too, is that one of the complicating factors with these charges, which is why he's not capable of working with the
Trump admin right now on deportations, is he's not allowed to have a security clearance. So he
cannot look at arrest records or anything related to law enforcement of illegal aliens in New York
because he doesn't have the clearance to do it. So that's the primary reason why they want the
charges dropped is so he can get a security clearance back and start assisting ICE, DOJ, FBI.
They've gone rogue.
They, New York, from the federal offices to the state offices, appear to be operating independent from the federal government.
I mean, the state obviously does.
We get that.
But the FBI field office, if this is correct and what Pam Bondi is saying
and and the stories we have about the Southern District of New York attorney's office and Eric
Adams, the investigations they've launched against Trump, this has become a political body
that is no longer operating under the jurisdiction of the federal government and the DOJ.
They're they're going to have to raid the building. They're going to they're going to
have to terminate all of these individuals immediately. And they're going to have to raid the building. They're going to have to terminate all of these individuals immediately,
and they're going to have to have trusted FBI agents actually secure the building
to make sure evidence isn't being destroyed.
Yeah, I think that that's probably the next step.
And it's not a surprise that New York is this kind of corrupt field office,
the way that they behave towards the administration,
it's not a shock in any way.
I know, Mary, you said you're in the nothing ever happens camp,
but as much as I do kind of agree with that,
this past month has been a whole lot of happenings.
A lot.
What else?
We can start, which was our from the beginning.
I mean, RFK Jr.
In my view, this is a not happening.
This whole story is a not happening.
That's crazy.
The files weren't released.
Yeah, but sure.
But the AG just said the FBI New York has gone rogue.
I mean, talk about a happening if happenings could ever happen.
If they get raided, that's a happening.
Sure.
Okay.
I have a high threshold.
Let's start with RFK Jr.
Just suspended a $460 million contract to make a COVID-19 vaccine. I mean, have a high threshold. Let's start with RFK Jr. just suspended a $460 million contract
to make a COVID-19 vaccine. I mean, that's happening. There's a bunch of little things
RFK Jr. is talking about with chemicals and food, and we can roll our eyes and say, sure,
I'll see what happens. But yeah, the suspension of the, what's the Vaxart or whatever the name
of the company is? This $460 million contract was just temporarily frozen. So a little happening there.
You've got, first of all, Kash Patel just got in.
Pam Bonte just got in.
A lot of this is in the first month.
Trump just issued an order this morning.
It wasn't Trump personally, but the Pentagon, terminating from the military every transgender person.
That's happening.
There's a lot of stuff going on now
i suppose if you're saying happening in the physical world where like people are like
i don't know launching rockets into space and like riding you know those gigantic bikes the
big wheels on them down the street and you're like this is crazy maybe we're not seeing anything
but in the administrative functions of government it has been so many happenings i've lost count i mean it the the
transgender stuff with the with the actually you can look at just the military and there's been a
lot of stuff the fact that pete hegseth is the um is the sect f that's a big deal when i see
executive orders i just see something that's going to change in four years if there's a new administration in office anyway.
So you think you think legislation is less more compelling than executive orders, which I would agree with.
But you think that a lot of his executive orders in the first like 24, 48 hours were just reversing executive orders that Biden did to reverse the executive orders that Trump did.
Trump has, I think, how many executive orders has Trump signed already?
I believe he's.
A thousand probably.
I believe it's more than, I think it's more than Biden, Obama and Bush did in their entirety or something like that.
Like it's in the first, I think Biden did like three or something or six, some like small number in his first day.
It shocked people. And Trump did what? A hundred plus.
Yeah. Serious happiness. Have to wonder what happens next.
I mean, look, if New York let's let's start here.
I always love the time travel test. Go back to 2018 and say in 2025, the AG will release a letter saying that the FBI offices are withholding evidence of a mass pedophile ring involving high profile billionaires and celebrities.
People are going to be like, what? They say, yeah, the FBI sitting on documents they won't release because they're trying to release them in the public, resulting in conspiracies that the FBI offices are on rogue.
Now, I do have to mention the Southern District of New York office had previously tried to prosecute Donald Trump, prosecute his lawyers. They tried to impeach
him. The state of New York then, with many of this, with overlapping jurisdiction, accused Trump
of a fake crime with no underlying crime. They upgraded a misdemeanor to a felony with no
underlying crime and then tried to put him in prison as he was running for office. I mean,
the amount of things that have happened in the past year, if you went back 10 years and said this,
people would laugh and say, are you writing a movie? And the funny thing is, whenever I do what I call the
time travel test, it gets so much crazier. I mean, think about where we're at. Two years ago,
what if I said they're going to try the real, the AG under Trump is going to try to release
the Epstein documents, but the Southern District of New York and FBI office in New York are going
to secretly cover up thousands of documents. People are going to be like, I don't know about that. Nothing ever
happens. I would have said that you were crazy if you told me that Trump was going to try to
end birthright citizenship. Oh, yeah, he did. I mean, it's going to go to the Supreme Court, but
that is a happening. I mean, there's a list and forgive me, I'm doing the influencer thing now,
but they did send a list out a week ago from the White House press office with a list of all the actions taken in the first month of the administration.
And it's a lot juicier than this Epstein binder, I will say. I mean, there's probably 100, 150 bullet, at a record low, um, tons of, tons of cutting
of waste or at least pausing federal.
I mean, we're, we've paused, paused all federal funding, especially foreign aid, which the
foreign aid question was just held up by a court.
I'm sympathetic to, to Mary's due because I, I am of the opinion that legislation is
what matters.
Like there's, you can talk a lot about the executive orders,
but you do have a point about if they're executive orders,
they'll just get overturned by the next guy.
But I do think that things like Doge and cuts to the various bureaucracies,
I think that does matter.
I also think that the American people are generally behind that kind of stuff,
and I think that matters, too.
If you actually make these cuts and then you see you don't see negative repercussions from the cuts happening to your average everyday person, I think they'll end up you'll end up getting the legislation to make the cuts permanent.
I want to issue a clarification because we got a super chat from Jer William says, Tim, you leaked the Bondi letter first on YouTube, which you claimed was from an unnamed source.
Didn't you sense that something was off with a leaked AG letter?
No, 3 p.m. was the embargo time.
And my video went live at 3 p.m.
However, other individuals published the letter before the embargo was lifted at around 2.33.
I know because I immediately got in contact with a couple of my sources on the ground.
And I said, looks like the letter's already been leaked.
So I did not leak it first. And on Twitter, on X, when I posted it, it was
about two minutes after it had already been released by other third parties. So yeah, I take
journalistic integrity very seriously. That is, my sources, if they ask not to be named, I won't
name them. If they give me information on background, it's called, I won't name them.
If there are individuals, there are circumstances in which you break these.
If there's an embargo, I won't break it.
Why?
You want individuals to trust you, and we want to get the information to the public.
If I've got people who are working in the White House, and I say, you can't trust me,
I'll defy anything you tell me, they'll not tell me anything, and I can't tell you anything. So you agree to some terms to try and maximize the amount of information
you get, knowing the individual setting those terms are doing so for their benefit. But it is
better that we compromise on the exchange of information so that I can bring it to you as
opposed to just give them the middle finger and get nothing. That being said, were I or Amber,
as we had been discussing earlier,
gone, if we had gone to one of these meetings, we would have been like,
the moment the clock strikes, we're publishing everything.
Yeah, I would have had a Scribd account with all of the documents in it with a scheduled set time to go live at three, 100%. And it would have gone right on the Daily Caller website. And maybe I
would have had like an accompanying post with the top 10 things that are in the Epstein files for those who don't want to read all the documents but I
would absolutely make them all available no question yeah indeed I think that the uh I think
I think my my opinion still lands as this was a bad move it should have been you know the the AGs
whatever it was that they decided to do,
it doesn't make anybody happy.
It doesn't satisfy anyone. And it just makes for an unforced error.
I hear you.
I still feel like we're not going to see the unredacted files.
I don't disagree.
The idea that they would ever publish a list of powerful billionaires
and movie stars and musicians that were involved in the trap in a trafficking ring.
And we're going to expose these power structures.
It feels like you're you live.
It's like it's like it's like communist utopian level nonsense.
And I feel the same way about the JFK, RFK and MLK documents, like people who are getting all excited about that saying if you really think the CIA was involved in
the assassination of these individuals which by the way I agree with you do we really think that
they wouldn't have scrubbed the evidence of that like 30 years ago and we're now 60 plus years on
and suddenly it's all going to come out and they're going to indict themselves yeah there
are other questions that still remain unanswered about more recent events like I'm waiting for the
Steven Paddock files yeah you know even after. Like, I'm waiting for the Stephen Paddock files. Yeah. You know? Yep. Even after
all these years, I'm still waiting
on answering questions about that.
Thomas Croft. Biggest mass shooting
in U.S. history.
And most people, if you mentioned it
to them, would be like, I don't
even know if I remember that. Like,
it was completely memory hold. And that
probably also indicts the intelligence community
in a number of ways.
We've got a very big story.
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Let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail.
This is crazy, my friends.
State accident insurance fund CEO targeted in terrifying attack by hooded gunman at his Oregon home.
Now, we don't know exactly what this is, but this sounds very similar to
what Luigi Mangione did. And considering how many leftists have been posting TikTok videos,
wearing Luigi hats, demanding people engage in this kind of behavior, it was sooner or later
we were going to story something like this. Take a look. An insurance CEO was targeted in a gun
attack by a hooded gunman at his home in Oregon with eerie similarities to Brian Thompson's murder in New York last year.
The unidentified suspect took aim at state accident insurance fund CEO Chip Terhune's $1.68 million home in Lake Oswego around 4 a.m. Friday.
A grainy surveillance image released Thursday by Oswego police showed this, or was this last week?
Last week.
Gunman donning all dark clothes, the possible hoodie or ski mask.
The perpetrator is believed to have fled the scene on foot.
And as of Thursday, he remains on the run.
Three bullets shattered the glass of the CEO's front door and windows.
The doors have since been boarded up with wood.
The following day, Terhune informed staff at SAIF, a not-for-profit company that provides worker compensation
in the state, that he initially thought rocks
were being thrown at his home. Terhune,
who was worth more than $764,000,
honestly, it's
a lot of money, but we're not talking about
a guy worth $40 million like the CEO of that other insurance company.
He sent an email to his more than
1,000 employees informing them the company
received an email threat purporting to
be from the person responsible. They got an image. image this is crazy although it does not target any specific
employee the email references knowledge of employee and relatives names and addresses
he further explained the sender attached a list containing some of the information source from
internet searches including many inaccuracies to the threatening message he then attached that list
to the employee email and said the company will reach out to them to share what information was dug up on them. So he clarified he isn't sure if he was
targeted, but is now doing well and ready to work. We're looking at two big stories right now. I mean,
this one, obviously, we saw this breaking last week, and now there's more information on it.
Another CEO is attacked. We have seen the left. Recently, a story. This woman went on X or I'm sorry, she went on TikTok and called for harm, called for
people to end the life of Elon Musk.
The I believe a U.S. attorney responded that he'd be in touch with her.
We're hoping there's justice in that regard.
But the threats of violence from the left have been escalating.
And my friends, hear me go to any one of these liberal podcast subreddits and just search the term civil war and see what these people are posting about.
Search the term Luigi, Luigi on any one of these subreddits.
And what will you find?
They're going to be saying things like Luigi was always my favorite Mario brother.
They're going to be saying things like we need more people playing player two.
They're making all of these references to them wanting death,
murder and destruction. Now we have two big stories. Another attempt on the life of an
insurance CEO, which may be unrelated, but who knows? Considering the far left sentiment bubbling
up over the past several weeks, months or year, I would not be surprised to find it was related.
And then we have claims, whether true or not, that the New York attorneys and FBI offices are rogue and not
operating under the purview of the federal government. What are we looking at right now?
It's it seems like things are escalating. Look, the the this attack by the you know,
on this this other CEO here. I mean, look, this is, this is not a surprise.
There are going to be more like this.
There was the person that was shooting up a Tesla dealership, even though Musk isn't
there, that was only symbolic.
This right here is in the exact same vein.
What?
Did we ever figure out what the motivation was behind the Cybertruck explosion?
No. And I want to stress this too, as Phil put it, put a pin in it real quick.
I'm just going to say another one of these stories is they just arrested a transgender individual that Fox referred to as a woman with explosives at a Tesla dealership.
They've been shooting up Tesla dealerships, smashing them, vandalizing them and trying to blow them up.
But, Phil, you were saying. Yeah, it's just a situation where this stuff is,
I strongly feel like this is going to continue to escalate.
There are people like Kyle Kalinske and Crystal Ball and Hasan Piker and et cetera.
These people have been talking about the class war for ages.
The whole of BreadTube has been talking about class war.
And whether you're actually articulating,
oh, you should engage in violence or not,
when you spew the rhetoric
of a class war in the United States,
that the reason that you're poor
or the reason that you're dissatisfied,
because it's really the situation,
it's not about who has money and who doesn't.
There are plenty of people out there that are poor, that even though they live paycheck to
paycheck, they live fulfilled lives, that they love their families. They have other things in
their lives that make them happy. But when you have an argument that is made constantly that
the reason you are dissatisfied in your life is because of billionaires, that's the specific
reason. And if we could just get rid of those billionaires, you would be happy in your life is because of billionaires. That's the specific reason.
And if we could just get rid of those billionaires,
you would be happy in your life.
You are going to get poorly adjusted people.
You're going to get the mentally ill people that are,
that completely and totally dominate in the,
when it comes to the ground forces on the left,
those people will go out and act.
And I'm not saying,
oh,
you shouldn't be able to say this or you shouldn't be able to say that. But there is a there is now a climate in the United States
to that it is acceptable. And to some people, it is obvious, not that I agree with this,
but it is obvious that the problem is that there are a handful of billionaires in the world.
And the thought is, if we could just solve the billionaire problem, then we would solve whatever ails me.
I'm trans and I'm unhappy.
Whatever your disorder is will be fixed just by solving the billionaire problem.
But one more additional problem to that is the people that are dissatisfied, the people that are unhappy, they're not actually going to be able to find the billionaires.
They're going to find people that are worth a couple million bucks
or people that just have more than they do.
So Ray Dalio had a conversation with Tucker Carlson.
He said, we're in a civil war.
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being, yeah, we're not in a civil war,
and 10 being, I can see them coming around the corner,
where would you guys think we are on that scale?
I'd say we're at a 5 or 6.
5 or 6? Oof.
That's over the middle. What do you think? Mary's say we're at a five or six. Five or six. Oof. That's over the middle.
What do you think?
Mary's going to say one.
Nothing ever happens.
Nothing ever happens.
Yeah, I'm going to go with one.
That's a safe answer.
I don't.
What would be the sides then?
What do you mean?
The Civil War?
Civil War between territorial.
They're usually never territorial.
It's ideological.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
So you've got the populist, and then you've got the establishment forces.
So if you look at how like the corporate press and the Democrats, the worldview they have, I mean, who's ever on the side of the FBI field office in New York versus the federal government?
And they exist.
Whoever these people are who are trying to bomb Tesla dealerships, they're organized.
Antifa has cells all over the country. They pretend like they don't. So that stupid people think they don't exist. Whoever these people are who are trying to bomb Tesla dealerships, they're organized. Antifa has cells all over the country. They pretend like they don't so that stupid people think they don't
exist. But they do. They organize online. That's how there's a group we call the tourists. Go to
any one of these protests in I shouldn't say any names for legal reasons, but we know their names.
We know who they are. They are at every single protest across the country.
And you're like, how did that person know to show up in Long Beach?
I've heard this exact same thing from other people who covered the riots in 2020.
Ask Richie McGinnis.
Exactly.
He will tell you.
He wrote about it in his book.
And then the Daily Caller also reported on this other story. On Monday, the FBI's Houston office announced that they arrested someone by the name of Seth or Andrea Gregori
after he allegedly plotted an attack against police similar to the 2016 Dallas ambush.
He was making terroristic threats to the Houston Police Department, Corpus Christi Police Department.
And what was really interesting about this story is
that nobody seemed to blink an eye at the fact that this guy was known by both Seth and Andrea.
So I was like, we should reach out to the police and ask if this was a transgender person. That
seems pretty weird. And apparently it is. A CCPD officer said that based on information they
received from the FBI, quote, it's our understanding that Grigori is transitioning.
His driver's license indicates that he is male, but booking information from the Nooses County Jail, apologies if I mispronounce that, reportedly marks him as female.
So he was trying to engage in a mass killing similar to what happened after
the Michael Brown incident in 2016 in Dallas.
And then, of course, we had, there was some breaking news on the Ziz cult today.
I don't know if you guys saw that.
I'm not familiar with that.
You're not familiar with the Ziz?
No, tell me about it.
This is the transgender leftist cult.
Oh, great.
They killed the border guard in Vermont.
Okay.
A couple weeks ago, they shot.
Okay, I did hear about that.
They shot and killed him.
That's a happening, Mary.
Far left transgender cultists
shot and killed a border guard trying to flee.
Is this a splinter group that came off of Antifa? well uh i believe they originate they refer to themselves as trantifa
like that is the actual word they use for their their group transgender antifa it's not it's not
necessarily a splinter group the the the left is all splinter groups that have what they call the
diversity of tactics and they coordinate so how it works is there will be
10 people that live in Seattle and they'll have some like gutter space they rent for dirt where
they organize. When they want to set up a protest, they will put out messages to various forums and
individuals. It's a splinter network. And then the tourists, we call them. These are people who
travel around the world, not just the country, to foment and organize and provide expertise for protests.
They provide legal strategies and obstruction strategies.
So these tourists will go to these little hovels and provide material, signs, rope, whatever they might need.
And then through their network, put out a call to action to make their protests larger.
That's why you end up seeing the exact same people in the front of every march in every
different city in the country some people think they're feds that they're they're they're working
for the government to to sow discontent for whatever reason i don't know that's true get
you like funding it the government like that's the conspiracy well aside from the the conspiracy
like is this some kind of NGO fund operation?
Well, so it's not an operation. There are operations. So one mistake a lot of conservatives
often make is they'll say George Soros is paying protesters to be here. Wrong. No, they're not.
The Open Society Foundation provides grants to various nonprofits. During Occupy Wall Street,
there were a handful of nonprofits that sent their employees down to help them organize.
So how does Occupy get as big as it did? Three or four people from various NGOs that were paid to
be there put out flyers at universities, tricked them into showing up, and then took control of
the organization to make big protests happen. So when the conservatives hear that NGOs are funding
this, they say the protesters are paid to be there.
Then the 22-year-old college kid who showed up bored for no reason says, I didn't get paid to be here. I don't know anybody who did. They're lying. And they use that to recruit more. They
say, see, Fox News lied about you. And they do the same thing with less violent methods, too.
So, for example, like the Satanic Temple, they had a protest at a Virginia school board meeting
in Norfolk. I went down and covered
it and I saw a few of the people, you know, you can't miss them. They've got shaped heads,
weird tattoos, pentagrams, all this crazy nonsense. And then I was looking at a story
from a different Satanic Temple protest at a different school, literally halfway across the
country. I can't remember what state it was in. And looking at the pictures, I went, I know her.
She was at the Virginia protest. Why is she in Oregon or wherever she was at that time? paying people and putting out targeted messaging on social media to encourage people to go to these town halls,
telling them the details, the dates, the location, the phone numbers for the representatives.
And they're showing up and basically trying to give the impression that there is this fomented opposition from within the Republican Party against Doge.
Right. And let's just clarify, George Soros is not personally doing any of this stuff.
Right. It's his. He's got philanthropy wings. I believe his son is running them.
They provide grants to various NGOs and nonprofits. Indivisible, MoveOn are a couple of them.
And then these nonprofits decide what to do. And so what I've personally witnessed,
having covered this stuff for about a decade, is that you'll go to a protest and it's a bunch
of random people milling about no idea what's going on. And then there will be like two or three people and you're like, I've seen you in every major set I've ever been to.
And they're like, right, I work for insert NGO.
And you're like, uh-huh, and you're paid to be here.
And they're like, well, this is part of our organizing.
So, yeah, this is my job.
And then you're like, and then you went to all the universities.
You put up flyers.
You went on social media.
You put out calls to action.
Yep.
And so all these people are here because of you.
Yes.
Okay.
So you were paid to be here by an NGO to create this protest.
And they go, right.
Then what happens is the 300 other people, you go up to them and say the same thing.
Were you paid to be here?
And they go, no.
Why are you here?
I heard about it on the internet.
Yeah.
Phil, I wanted to say, I'm glad that you brought up the bread tubers and these these far left streamers and
influencers because they just think that this is all fun and games and it's because they've been
on a playground of no consequences this entire time and the past decade basically the fbi has
been paying special attention to right-wing extrem. Meanwhile, the right wing extremists, they mean like parents that have the audacity to
go to the PTA meetings and look at what their kids are learning.
They also mean right wing groups that they infiltrate in order to get people to say or
do incriminating things so they can get more convictions.
But the left wing streamers are the ones fueling this fire and
making it a laughing matter and i think that maybe maybe something that the fbi needs to focus on as
they're entering a new era is uh far-left extremism because there is an increasing
uh it's like some mixture of boredom and rage that is stirring up in a lot of people.
And it's not going to be pretty.
So the things that you hear that actually bother people when it comes to,
there's a lot of people that would say, oh, poor people are really, are upset.
And it's not that poor people are upset or being poor makes people unhappy.
It's not the case because there are people that are in significantly poorer countries
than the United States and they live happy, fulfilled lives because things like family
make you happy, right?
Things like you having a fulfilled life, God, religion, your community.
Those kind of things are what actually makes people happy.
Material things, to a certain degree, like having the ability to pay your bills, can add to stress and can make you unhappy.
But once you get to a certain amount of money, more money doesn't actually make you happy.
It's the reason that billionaires become billionaires.
It's not because they want money.
It's the drive to do the thing that they're doing, right?
So it's the, what's the phrase that I'm looking for?
Income inequality that upsets people.
When people can't pay their bills, right?
But they have the internet on their phone, but they're poor in America.
They can't pay their bills, but they see people on Instagram or on the Internet that live lavish lifestyles.
They hear, you know, billionaires have all this stuff.
They get upset that there is such an income inequality.
That's something that will will spur people to to action.
Particular is the thief of joy. when we're seeing like a lot of these school shooters or mass shooters who've had their
plans foiled, seeing like these half-baked manifestos that they write, I know that when
I read them, it sounds like extremist political philosophy, but they don't even pick a side
of the extreme to pledge allegiance to.
It's like they're just a lot of a lot of the statements they're making in these manifestos don't actually make coherent sense with each other.
It just sounds extreme in every last direction.
That's why I say wokeness is just cult like adherence to liberal orthodoxy.
They don't actually have any logic behind their ideas,
but for some reason they march in lockstep with each other.
So I'm not familiar with what you're talking about.
Like that female school shooter who, she was in Wisconsin, I believe.
Okay, I don't know this one.
Right? Her name was Samantha something.
Oh, right, right, right.
She wrote this manifesto that seemed like it was this radical
feminist manifesto but then she was also making statements that were like extremely racist at the
same time and and it was like it was this completely incoherent scattershot philosophy
but of course you have but also she was practically if this was written by her
practically illiterate right but this is not surprising at all
that someone who would do something so psychotic
did not have a functioning brain.
There's no logic behind the actions
taken by these extremists
because it doesn't result in anything
that lends itself towards an ideology
or any kind of goal.
So it's not surprising that all of the manifestos
tend to be garbled mishmash nonsense.
It's not even that I'm expecting it to be logical, but internally logical.
No.
And that's what, that's the thing I've noticed.
Like just if you track what manifestos sound like and what they're trying to communicate
over time, they're just getting more and more nonsensical as time goes on.
So the concern is when you look at liberal YouTubers, there's no logic in what they're saying.
When you look at the corporate press, it's just lies and manipulation.
I mean, let's talk about the price of eggs.
They didn't care at all.
Everyone was screaming about it.
The moment Trump walks in, they scream the price of eggs.
There's no logical pathway for what they're offering.
Take a look at, you mentioned BreadTube, these communists and these Marxists on YouTube.
They don't have a basic understanding of economics. AOC actually stated that a tax subsidy was a cash gift, which is an inversion
of what it actually is. A tax subsidy is a discount. AOC doesn't know at all what she's
talking about. So they rally people based on an incoherent, illogical state of being where they're angry at somebody.
And they accuse Trump of doing that, which they do.
They are demagogues.
AOC says, I have no idea what's going on or how the world works, but I'm angry.
And if you're angry, be angry at him.
They rally people in this direction, and it leads to violence against a Tesla dealership.
Elon doesn't work at Tesla dealerships.
Who are you mad at?
Joe Smith, who makes $40,000 a year cleaning the toilets of a car dealership?
Why are you attacking these people?
Well, the attack on the car dealership was symbolic.
And it's probably more akin to—I'm not sure if this is actually true, but it reminds me more of the graffiti that you see than an actual attack on a person.
You know what I mean?
They want to destroy something.
It's more like vandalism.
Sure, it's scary if they use firearms. That does make it more frightening.
But that's the intent, frightening and vandalism, not actually hurting someone.
But even still, like you were talking about, like the bread tubers and stuff.
They want to go.
They they intentionally aim at people that are dissatisfied.
And I've said this a million times.
Happy people don't engage in revolutionary revolutionary activities.
It takes people that are upset.
They're idle and nihilistic.
They're nihilistic.
Absolutely. People that are upset. They're idle and nihilistic. They're nihilistic, absolutely. And it was the same thing in previous eras when there were communist revolutions.
They told the average person in Ukraine that it was the kulaks' fault that there was no food.
The kulaks, that you're broke and poor because of the kulaks.
The kulaks were the farmers that knew how to act.
They got the house and the cow that they had because they knew how to farm.
They had some land they could farm.
They were actually providing food.
So they had a little bit of money.
And then the communists told them, look, the kulaks, they have stuff.
That's your enemy.
They're the reason.
And this clearly they weren't getting, though, they weren't getting the average peasant angry with the kulaks because the kulaks were living in palatial luxury.
They had a house and they had a farm and they had some cows.
They were still farmers.
But because they had something and the people that had nothing had nothing and it seemed like so much more and they were starving and the kulaks weren't, it was easy to turn the peasantry against the kulaks.
And what happened? Millions of Ukrainians died because of it. Same thing in China.
Let's jump to the story from the Postmillennial.
Thomas Matthew Crooks may have had an accomplice, says private investigator.
We don't think he acted alone.
I think the reason this is significant is because when you look at the official narrative, they've never been able to question how this guy was able to carry
these materials, his weapon into this space in Butler, PA, how he was able to bypass all of the
police. Postmillennial rights would be assassin of Trump. Thomas Matthew Crooks may have had an
accomplice. The New York Post has reported this comes nearly nine months since the shooting in
Butler, Pennsylvania. According to the outlet, sources familiar with the matter said the FBI has run interference in trying to find out
why Crooks carried the shooting. The shooter left no manifesto. However, the outlet reported that a
private investigator believes a criminal network was working with Crooks at the time of the
assassination attempt. Private investigator Doug Hagman told the outlet, we don't think he acted
alone. This took a lot of coordination. In my view, Crooks was handled by more than one individual and he was used for this assassination attempt. And I wouldn't preclude
the possibility that there were people at the rally itself helping him. Hagman, as well as his
team of six other investigators, have been working on the case and have interviewed dozens of people.
They've also looked into the location of a device that was geolocated to be with Crooks at the time
of the shooting. According to their work, the device is still pinging at Bethel Park High School.
Interesting.
And they go on to mention more about the shooting.
But this is not surprising, though.
I don't know if we're going to learn anything about this.
I would not be surprised to find that there are criminal elements operating even within
government that allowed this to happen.
It was either, I think, if this is true, the accomplices were either within the intelligence community, meaning FBI,
or part of the Iranian assassination plot against Trump. Those, I think, are the two most likely
options. I think it has to be internal. I think the only... That's why I listed that one first.
When we've gone over this story so many times, I'm not surprised to see private investigator with a
team of six other investigators or whatever is saying, there's a weird device pinging in this high school. And like,
he may have had an accomplice. He had to have, we've gone over in great deal of the official
narrative over and over again. There there's no way they've never, they've never given it.
Let me, I'm going to pause. They've never given us an official story. They've given us surface
level circumstances that happened in Butler PA, but they have never said, OK,
on 9-11, hijackers at these airports got on these planes with box cutters. They did these things. Flight 93. Let's roll. We found the passport they've given us for 9-11, you know, starting
from A, moving through B, ending with C. We know the position of how everything happened
with the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. they have literally never given us an explanation
as to how this guy did what he did, got where he was and got these shots off. And no motive.
No motive, no plan. They've not explained how. There's no A to B. There's no start to finish.
There's no story. It. There's no story.
Here's some random kid for some reason who shot the president, or he did shoot him,
and security was missing
from every single point of entry,
and he flew a drone over this.
He flew a drone over the president's
rally. There's no explanation.
Why? Because there can't be one.
There's literally no way to fabricate a scenario
where Secret Service
allowed a would-be
assassin to fly a drone over the president's rally. It makes no sense. And when there were
two snipers in the sniper nest and one of them had to leave for some reason, but then forgot his
key card and couldn't get back in. And also the water tower was left unmanned and they couldn't
have people on the roof that Thomas Matthew matthew crooks was on because
it was too sloped and it was dangerous but they were set up on another roof that had the exact
same slope it's so hard to hear all of the all of things all the the facts like that and not think
okay this was allowed to happen they had their eyes on him up until the second that he fired.
They were looking right at him.
And we all know that.
The whole time.
It's like to the level of incredulity of like security guards at the Metropolitan Detention Center falling asleep when they were supposed to be watching Epstein in his cell.
That's the level.
Like, that's kind of the fool you take me for, you know?
Yeah, well, I mean, the previous administration absolutely looked on the average people with
disdain. They definitely looked on Trump supporters with disdain. So it's not a surprise that they
had that kind of opinion. I am hopeful that we'll find more out with the current administration. I imagine Donald Trump wants that.
It wants to know what happened, considering he's the guy that was actually shot.
And I do think that you're making a dubious face.
Do you doubt that Trump wants to know?
I was just wondering.
I mean, maybe he knows more than we do.
Probably he does.
I mean, he's the president so i assume so um but i do think
that that the american people have a right to know what you know whatever the the government
finds out considering the only person that was killed was the shooter if there are other people
involved i would like to know that the government has gone and that the fbi has gone pick them up
and i would like to see them prosecuted and if there are people that neglected to do their job in Pennsylvania that day
or leading up to it, that those people get fired so that way it doesn't happen again.
And I do believe that Trump has made changes at the Secret Service.
I think. I don't know for sure.
But I'm under the impression.
I thought that I've heard that story.
But it also seems logical that he would.
But, yeah, I think the American people want to know.
And I think the American people have the right to know.
I mean, don't don't assign to incompetence what can easily be explained by malice.
That's what I think.
There's no way that this was a failure of just mere incompetence.
People taking bathroom breaks when they shouldn't have.
Give it backwards
no no i got it perfectly in order as i meant it okay this was malice not incompetence oh okay
yeah um and again to bring up steven paddock we don't have an official story on that either
yep not that we're the type of people who just take an official story and accept it
but at least if we got an official story
from the authorities,
we'd have the freedom to accept or reject it,
to question it and investigate it for ourselves.
Yeah.
It's wild to me that we're at this place
where multiple instances
where someone tried to take the life
of the front runner for the U.S. presidency.
Think about where this country would be
if Crooks had succeeded against Donald Trump.
I mean, we'd probably be banned.
Oh, yeah.
The show wouldn't exist.
Yeah.
The first month of the Kamala Harris administration
would be the exact inversion of Trump.
The border would be completely opened.
They'd be like, burn it down.
I have a strong strong strong suspicion that
had kamala harris won and i'm not sure that kamala harris would would have won if donald trump was
shot jd vance would have still run and it's possible it's possible that he would have won
and i'm not so i'm not sure but had kamala harris won i there's no doubt in my mind that shows like
this would have been targeted like the people here like tim personally definitely i don't
know about i don't know if i would but the there definitely would have been people that the doj
would have gone and gone after tim probably would have gone after people like rogan and like anyone
that's that were that was was sufficiently critical or that the the administration uh
assumed helped or would have you know wasn't helping kamala harris they would
have gone and they were already testing the waters in the first term by using these dhs affiliated
groups to flag content on social media and send emails to twitter and facebook and youtube and
telling them which content to remove and then somehow the courts decided that was fine because
the people suing somehow didn't have standing, even though their accounts were taken down.
I will never understand that.
And then one more point on the assassination attempt.
I mean, beyond the fact that the now president was shot in the ear, there was someone who lost his life, an innocent American, Corey Compertori, and multiple other potential victims who were injured by that assassin's bullets.
Obviously, the American people deserve to know what happened.
Absolutely.
When it comes back to the targeting of pundits or political commentary people,
there were people that were in the administration, that were at the DOJ and stuff like that,
that had the job of watching the people that people like Tim.
They had an entire intern class.
I mean, there was an intern who wrote for the Free Press after she left the White House
that her job as an intern for the Biden administration at DHS was to flag content that the administration didn't like,
even if it was true, even if it was true. And considering the fact that the administration was very comfortable with trying to, with
using the Department of Justice to go after its enemies, I mean, that isn't in question.
Like, they were using the DOJ to go after, you know, people that had the wrong opinions
about January 6th, people that were at January 6thth and people that didn't go into the uh the capital
they were going after people that were just on the grounds they were going after people after
parents that were you know like we talked about earlier the parents that were uh that had an issue
with the things that were being told to their children they had no problem using the fbi and
doj to go after those people they would have used the doj to go after political pundits nationwide.
And they went after pro-lifers, too, pro-life activists for standing too close to the door of an abortion clinic.
And I mean, they're a person in jail now because of that.
I think Trump did pardon some of them.
OK, I don't know if he I think he might have done all of them.
I just don't want to say for certain without double checking my facts.
But I mean, the other part of this, too, is I don't know if we're going to get into some of the W.H.C.A. stuff that's been happening.
But Biden cracked down on the press pretty significantly during his time in office.
He stripped White House reporters, 450 of them, almost of their hard passes for no apparent reason, gave them no recourse to get the hard passes back.
They locked down the briefing room
during COVID. They made journalists pay for their own COVID tests just to get access to the White
House campus. Like they literally had a pay for play scenario where you had to pay $150 a day to
get a COVID test to get into the briefing room. Let's actually, let's dive into this because we
have a story from the Hill. White House Correspondents Association head, the public can no longer trust pool reports
under White House control. I find I just simplify this for you guys. The White House Correspondents
Association, which was basically a news cartel, which was full of individuals who lied the entire
time under the first Trump term and under Biden, are now saying we can't trust the pool reports
because they don't have control. But some random people might be in there.
Are you a member?
I am a member of the White House Correspondents Association.
You're in the cartel.
I am in the cartel.
I have blue membership, which is the second tier,
because I don't cover the White House every day.
And I've been a member since 2019.
Are they evil?
They're not good people.
I can tell you that.
Some of them are good people,
I assume, as Trump would say. But okay, so the meltdown over this is hilarious because the White House uses the pool system as a means of gatekeeping for legacy media. I mean,
really, the entire WHCA is orchestrated to protect the friends among the legacy media and corporate media.
I mean, the WHCA, for those who don't know, assigns the seats in the briefing room.
The White House doesn't do that.
They get to pick those all those rows and they are the ones who put all the corporate
media in the first two rows.
So those are the people always getting called on at the briefings.
And there's a bunch of outlets that don't have seats in the briefing room at all.
When I was at the Spectator, I didn't have one.
Karine Jean-Pierre didn't call on people in the aisles.
So if you didn't have a seat assigned by the WHCA,
then you were SOL when it came to getting a question during the Biden admin.
But the pool is a rotating group of journalists.
There's 30, I believe, in the print pool.
And when it's your day, you get to basically go to the events
that are technically non-public or not open to the full press. And you report on the events and you send a report to the rest of the press pool
so that they can get the information when space is limited and what have you. But
the way that they organize the pool is that they're like favorite 30 outlets and they'll
throw in two or three conservative outlets to make it look fair. Get to go in every day. The
cameras get the perfect setup from all of the corporate legacy media outlets fair, get to go in every day. The cameras get the perfect setup from all
of the corporate legacy media outlets. They get to go in first, set up their cameras.
And often the pool will collude with each other on what questions they're going to ask before they
even go in. So my friend Reagan Reese, who's the White House correspondent for The Daily Caller now,
actually witnessed these corporate media journalists saying, if we all go in and just
one of us yells a question, then we have a more
likely shot of Biden answering it. So we should actually just coordinate on what our one question
is going to be among the six of us. So it's a joke. And now what the White House Correspondents
Association is doing in response to this news that the White House is going to take over the
pool rotation is they have now stopped sending pool reports at all i think
they've actually deleted the email which is like all at whpoolreports.com and uh this was seen as
so insane by even members of the white house correspondence association because now you get
zero access to the white house events that you can't get into as a reporter that they are now
forwarding emails from people who are in the pool now.
But they won't refer to it as a pool report anymore because they're so butthurt.
Now they're calling it White House notes.
I have reached out to some of our contacts.
And I just want to say for everybody who watches this show, it's looking really good for independent access.
You may see some big things coming out of the White House with not
just us, but many other shows. I think we're going to see some massive changes to how the
press is handled. This booting of the White House Correspondents Association is one of the most
beautiful things I've ever seen. I despise the journalism industrial complex. And I look forward
to periodically hearing a question from a podcaster I've never heard of.
Every last person that was a member of the White House press pool,
whether they be a member of the White House Correspondents Association or not,
every last person that was in the pool should be permanently barred from the White House.
Except for Daily Caller.
Forever.
Because...
No exceptions.
I'll say fine for the purposes of this argument.
But Jake Tapper is about to release a book called Original Sin.
Here we go.
And it is about how everyone knew that Joe Biden was a walking corpse.
Jake Tapper was instrumental in spreading the Russia collusion BS.
Yes.
These people are in no position, absolutely no position to criticize anyone.
They're not in a position to criticize Alex Jones when he was talking about the frogs turning gay.
Well, to be clear, Alex Jones was talking about atrazine.
Yes.
Studies that showed it caused endocrine disruption, and he was in a jokingly kind of way saying it's making them gay.
Yes, it was more true than anything. These people, they have studies after the fact saying they're not sure that Atrazine actually was an endocrine disruptor.
But we do have first of all, give the context context, original sin, President Biden's decline, its cover up and Alex Thompson. Jake Tapper, hero of CNN, exposing the corporate press for covering up Joe Biden.
My favorite my favorite piece is going to be when he when Jake Tapper exposes Jake Tapper.
Jake is very clearly a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to.
It makes me uncomfortable. You you are no it's so amazing to me that and try and figure out an answer cognitive decline
that what i was suggesting was i think that you were mocking his stutter yeah i think you were
mocking his stutter and i think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive
decline especially i would think that somebody in the Trump family would be more sensitive
to people who do not have medical licenses, diagnosing politicians from afar. Plenty of
people have diagnosed your father from afar. And I'm sure I'm really excited to read the chapter
in his book where he talks about how the media was covering up Joe Biden's cognitive decline.
And then he brings up CNN as one of the principal drivers in covering up Joe Biden's decline.
And man, when Tapper calls out Jake Tapper for claiming that Biden said a stutter, I'm going to be so excited.
Every last one of them deserves to be homeless and destitute for the rest of their lives.
Well, that's that's that's mean.
Look, I know.
No, no, no, no, no.
I have no problem
if they're making
my cheeseburgers for me.
Just don't spit in them.
The fries, I like them
a little well done,
a little extra salt.
What's so annoying to me
about this is,
you know, a lot of people
have been saying
Alex Thompson was good at this.
He is a good reporter.
He came out with a piece
about Biden's cognitive decline,
I believe, before the debate,
if not shortly after,
and was willing to talk about it
when the Democratic Party hadn't decided if it was okay or not yet. That's a little
too much credit for Alex Thompson, because from this clip, you see people notice this on the
campaign trail in 2020. I mean, I wrote an article, I think, in September ahead of the election about
Biden's schedule being less than a typical 40-hour working week. Like he was working an average of 30 hours on the campaign trail,
running for the most important job in the world.
So I don't give Alex Thompson that much credit.
But out of the mainstream media journalists,
he was one of the better ones in terms of calling out Biden's cognitive decline.
And so for him to hitch his wagon to Jake Tapper,
who was complicit in the cover-up,
I don't know why he would damage his credibility like that unless they're
getting a really fat paycheck for this. Of course they are. How many days did the Biden administration
call a lid at 1 p.m.? At 1 p.m. How many days did they say Biden has done too much work at one in
the afternoon? They called it brunch lid. So I wrote this article in July of 2023 called Biden's bougie brunch lid.
And it was about the number of brunch lids they were calling.
And from a rough count of White House pool reports so far this year, this is from January
to July of 2023.
They had called a brunch lid 42 times and they called a lunch lid 39 times.
That's just in a six month period.
And the brunch lid apparently got so much backlash after this piece came out that members of the White House communications team and members of the White House Correspondents Association instructed White House correspondents to stop using the term because of the negative optics saying that it didn't deserve to be in the official record of the White House correspondents to stop using the term because of the negative optics
saying that it didn't deserve to be in the official record of the White House.
They are the ones who came up with it.
None of them deserve any of your sympathy.
None of them deserve to be in the White House anymore.
But they do deserve your disdain.
Yes, they do.
What if the foreword is Jake Tapper issuing a mea culpa?
Then I don't care.
He's making money off it.
Yeah, I don't care.
He also needs to do a mea culpa on the Trump Tower story because he was one of the authors on that and might have won a Pulitzer Prize for it.
Was it Jake Tapper who said you're not allowed to have the DNC emails?
That was him, right?
That sounds right when the emails got released it was it might have been
i'm not sure but cnn they're like you know it's illegal for people to have these emails so you
can't have them but we are allowed to have them it's like that's that's not true don't buy his
book you should definitely pirate it no you should not don't read that garbage that's fair enough
yeah but i'm not surprised that this is what we're getting from the corporate press.
The CNN Jake Tapper story is absolutely hilarious.
But, you know, I've worked in media for some time now, and I remember going to these events,
and I just – going to various universities and news events, these people are the elite of the elite.
It is capital city in the Hunger Games.
That's who these journalists are.
I mean, have you guys seen images
of the White House Correspondents Association,
what these people dress like?
They dress like capital city in the Hunger Games.
Eugene Daniels.
Yeah, it's like, go watch Hunger Games
in the capital city in the weird closet.
That's what they dress like.
They are removed from the regular public.
They view themselves as a cartel. they think they're entitled to things we had uh
who was it on the show uh nick sorter was saying that he was at the capital and someone came up to
him yelling it wasn't allowed to be there and he thought it was a staffer or something turns out
it was a journalist and he was like what like why are they yelling at me what because they think
they're entitled yeah and eugene daniels is the person you're most referring to because there have been he's the president of the White House Correspondents Association.
And there's been pictures circulating of some of his outfit choices and his painted nails and things of that nature.
You can kind of see where I'm going with this. But he actually asked the Daily Caller to sign on to the Associated Press's defense letter when the Trump administration said you're no longer allowed to cover Oval Office events or fly on Air Force One.
And I was like, we would never sign your letter because you did nothing the past four years when Biden clamped down on access on independent and conservative outlets.
He hit me back and was like, I'd love to talk about how we can better support you.
And I responded. I'm like, sure, I'll talk to you. No reply. Ghosted
me. So he only cared when it was to benefit his friends at the Associated Press. And then as soon
as that letter was out, I was useless to him again. They deserve your disdain. You should not
feel bad for any of them. They should not be allowed access because i've said this before the thing that these people want more
than anything else is access they want to be the cool insiders in dc well they want to go to the
white house correspondence dinner and get dressed up in in ballroom regalia and that's what blue
check uh twitter verification was yeah and that's why it was overwhelmingly journalists that were
verified on twitter before Elon took it.
They they intentionally, you know, Twitter was smart about this.
They said, these are people who control the flow of information through these media outlets.
Let's suck up to them and make them feel special so they will pander to us.
And that's how they would try to get favorable news coverage in the way they wanted it.
Then Elon took their blue checks away and they cried so hard.
It was really funny because there'd be – I remember the Wall Street Journal had a reporter with 200 followers and he was verified.
And there's a lot of prominent individuals in independent media.
So for me, my story was – and look, people are like, Tim's just telling another story about himself, but I don't know anybody else or their stories.
I mean like no one's told me the stories about how they got screwed over, how verified.
I had 30-something thousand followers.
I had a bunch of videos, and activists were like, why aren't these people being verified?
I wasn't working for anybody.
That was the reason.
It wasn't until I joined Vice that Vice called Twitter and said, verify Tim Pool and overnight had a verification. These same activists were
upset because they were like, here's a guy with 200 followers who's verified and nobody knows who
he is. And he was an editor at the Wall Street Journal. Why was he verified? Because he was a
journalist and journalists are special people. That's right. I had one of those. See? Yep.
You're a special verification. Yep. How did you get verified?
Because I worked for a news outlet.
And they called Twitter and said, do it?
There was some submission form.
What? Really?
Wow.
Yeah. This was in 2017 or 18, I think.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Early on, they had the submission forms you could submit to verify.
The original intention of it was anybody could verify their accounts to prove they were who they said they were and then they deactivated the ability
to do it because too many people were doing it i guess they didn't want to pay for it so then they
had an editorial team giving badges to people and verification didn't mean you were who you were
it meant special person i must have gotten in before that but i do remember the submission
form said something to the effect of if you are like a public figure particularly a journalist then you get i think they were likely
to get it yeah i think they they eventually rolled something like that out okay but when i got
verified it was 2013 and there was no way to do it vice employees literally called twitter on the
phone and said verify tim pool and they went okay and then they were like you're good i went to my
phone open up like got it there's my blue check mark i don't know i don't remember exactly gave you special
it gave you special features too did it did i don't remember when i got mine but i know that
it was because of the band so because you got it before elon took over oh well yeah well i had it
in like 2012 or something so you had like a social media manager that did it? No. Not that I'm aware of. No, the thing was
for celebrities, music, bands,
actors or whatever, they were intentionally
every day seeking them out to verify them because
they wanted to give the platform credibility. That's right.
They wanted to say, hey, Phil, look, you're
special, right? And then that would
encourage him to tell people, come here.
I gotta tell you. Now they can go be special
in blue sky. Well, yes, absolutely.
I got in the parties
with the verification bench i'm verified and said i worked for vice and so i went to a party and i'm
like like sorry you can't come in i was like here's my phone and they thought it was a big deal
yeah it was it was supposed supposedly a big deal and then the journalists ruined it because they
thought that it made them special but i mean one other thing about the whca that i find so funny
is like you're talking about mostly the people who appear on camera are dressed like they're in
the hunger games and they'd love to go to these parties but then there's this other smaller subset
of legacy media that does not appear on camera and these people are complete slobs like some i'm not
even kidding you when i say like they make probably more money than I mean not this room
sorry but in general they make a lot of money um for people who just like work normal jobs
and yet they were dressed in like the most ill-fitting like falling apart at the scenes
clothes they would leave their trash everywhere the bathroom's constantly out of order in the
briefing room there's like rats and there's water stains and all of it was just a gross place to be.
And these people like took no pride in themselves.
And so watching them write these articles where they're like snarking on everyday Americans and looking at them with such contempt.
Mike, have you looked in the mirror lately?
Like you are apparently what you hate.
I'll give you guys some numbers.
I don't know.
Did I ever give the salary numbers from Fusion before?
No. It's been 10 years. It's been longer
than that. They wrote me a check
for $200,000.
$250,000 a year salary for
two years plus
I believe a $3 million budget.
So when they recruited me
they were like, they slid a piece of paper across
the table and I was like, sure. That's a lot
of money. Vice didn't pay that well.
Vice gave me $100,000.
Yeah. $100,000
what, 12 years ago, 13 years ago?
I mean, I was 26 or 27
so when they said, we'll give you $100,000 and we'll
fly, like, Vice was cool. I mean,
they were like, you can go anywhere in the world you want
whenever you want and we'll pay you $100,000 to do it.
And I was like, sign me up! $100,000 is like
$60,000 now do it. And I was like, sign me up. $100,000 is like $60,000 now.
Probably, yeah.
Yeah.
So it was good.
And then Fusion basically said,
we're going to do the exact same thing Vice did for you,
but more money.
And I was like, okay.
And then I basically just didn't spend any of it
and just used it to launch a company.
But that's why Luke Rutkowski was like,
Tim, don't do it.
Don't join the corporate press.
Because Fusion was basically ABC News. And I was working out of the ABC News building.
Whoopi Goldberg would be in the elevator every day. I'd be standing next to Whoopi Goldberg and
be like, hey, Star Trek was great. And I got to go and look at The View and everything they got
going on. And there's always people outside. Luke was like, don't do it, Tim. They're evil.
And then I was like, bro, I'm going to go work for this company. It's going to pay me stupid money.
And then afterwards, I'm going to do my own thing for as long as I need to and as long as I want.
And with the money I had left over, I was able to just do whatever I wanted.
Fly to Sweden.
You know, I didn't have as much like they're paying me a salary.
Obviously, I had to pay my rent, pay my bills and and and you know pay costs and stuff like that but uh i basically used the money to buy computer buy cameras start setting things up took a little
while but i had a savings to live off of so there you go there's there's there's numbers and you're
probably going like holy crap that's a lot of money to be paid by a news outlet i mean yeah and
that was low like i didn't negotiate one of the other guys that worked for fusion was getting half a
million a year a regular journalist you probably wouldn't even know his name if i if i said it i'm
not gonna some guy never i mean he wasn't a dick he was a nice guy like i'm not gonna rag on him
i don't know what he's doing now and he's never mean to me so there's no reason for me to just
you know throw shade at people but yeah no joke they hire a guy and they're like we'll give you
five hundred thousand dollars a year and he's like okay that, that's the kind of stuff they do at these companies.
It's mind-blowing.
You've seen like mass layoffs at almost all of these outlets by now, though.
And that era is definitively over.
Well, you know, to be honest, they weren't making money.
You know, Fusion had, I think, I was told $300 million in investment from very powerful
interests.
And they did not care how it was spent.
Yeah, most of the big outlets are being bankrolled by someone.
Very few of them are actually profitable.
Yeah.
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length documentaries. Let's grab some super chats. The Common Neighbor says these files reveal water
is wet. I hadn't known that. Joe Spinell says, yeah, rogue agents, hook, line, and sinker to all
the influencers. That's the front. The files will now be gone forever. There's the cover-up.
I think you've all been had.
I gotta say, people are pissed on X.
You know, Mary was not wrong.
The anger at the-
I'm pissed on X.
There you go.
That's a happening.
That's a happening.
The influencers that came out all smiling
and like holding up their binders,
I'm like, wow, man, they're getting roasted
because people are pointing out. It's like you were handed a prop by the White House,
walked out into the press, and then you all giggled and smiled and showed off these binders.
Not everyone did, but even the people who didn't are getting ragged on. And that's not fair.
That's some of the people who were there had no idea, and I respect them.
And I'm not mad at any of them.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's what happens, right?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, do you think the influencer's photo op of the Phase 1 Nothing Burger is the first L of the Trump administration?
MAGA is divided on that one.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know what they were thinking, honestly.
I was talking to a couple of people on the phone and uh i i said i think this was a stunt like because they were
saying like we had no idea this was happening and i was like yeah look at the photos that are coming
out man it's not looking good this is crazy very weird very weird i wonder what the intention was. You know, I'll just say this.
White House, if they want to do stunts that make an impact and work, they should never have distanced themselves from Laura Loomer.
I'm not joking.
Have her handcuff herself to the SDNY headquarters.
That is a phenomenal point.
But think about that move when she handcuffed herself to Twitter HQ.
There's nothing more to it. It just generated a mass amount of attention on an issue.
The problem with this stunt at the White House today is that people feel like they've been tricked. You know, they feel that they've been had. If Pan Bondi just gave Laura Loomer the binder
and let Laura go off with it, the news would have been way more favorable to them.
It would have been like, where's the rest of it?
But still better than whatever this stunt was.
Say, Levy, I'm not crying about it, guys.
I mean, even though I would say it's not overall a good day for whatever they were trying to pull off, tomorrow is another day and there should be developments.
And other than that, I'm way too happy with the Trump administration to be all that bent out of shape.
I really do think, look, if tomorrow there's substance,
all this will be forgotten about.
If they have substance,
if they have some like actual things to report
and there's actual evidence that comes out
and they have, if there's a substantial drop
or if internal affairs kicks in the doors
of the FBI office in the doors of the uh fbi office in in the southern
district of new york that will be substance as well i'm gonna need you uh phil for this one
james uh a horrendous says a horrendous congrats tim on the baby but it's sad to see that you
didn't honor the tradition of watching the show and super chatting while your wife was in labor?
Yeah, he did.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah.
That's it.
I don't think we read it, but he did super chat.
The chat was blowing up. I had to read it.
It was at 8.15, and I super chatted $100.
No, I kept looking for it that day,
and I couldn't find it on the chat.
I scrolled up and down numerous times.
8.15, $100 super chat from me, and the chat was blowing up all saying,
congrats, Tim, congrats, Tim.
I'm aware.
I also looked at it.
I tried to get it.
I went back and kept looking for it over and over and over again.
It wasn't shown.
I imagine it was auto-modded by YouTube for they don't want brigading and stuff like that.
They see 300 plus.
That's what I'm assuming because I checked it numerous, numerous times.
I could see it coming earlier and I couldn't obviously stop and say,
hey, guys, just so you know, Tim did the meme.
I didn't want to do that.
Yeah.
But I did.
Callan said he saw it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I was chatting with people, you know.
So I'm sorry you missed it, sir.
But of course I super chatted.
And it was a crazy story.
If you want to hear the story story it's on the Green Room podcast
which episode of the Green Room one was that?
let me try and pull that one up
so I can direct y'all in the right direction
last Friday right?
was it the Green Room?
it wasn't the Green Room on Friday
it would have been Monday
was it this Monday?
I think it would have been this Monday
the Green Room and it was
yeah because you were back on Monday.
Joey Manorino.
Yeah.
So Green Room number 88 with Joey Manorino,
Fatherhood, Children, The Importance of Family.
Go to rumble.com slash...
I'll just pull it up right here.
You can see it.
rumble.com slash timcast IRL.
Watch this Green Room episode.
I mean, the Green Room, it's really taken off.
We're getting 40,000 plus views on these episodes.
It's massive.
And this is Rumble Premium only.
Super cool, guys.
Very, very cool.
Chuck's a great conversationalist.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, he's great.
He's great.
He just, you know, he's a genuine guy who's interested in these guests.
He's never met before.
And then he asks the questions that bring you home.
But I came in for the first time after having a kid.
And they asked questions and I answered them.
So there you go. If you want to hear the story about how it all went down. It's like, and they asked questions, and I answered them. So there you go.
If you want to hear the story about how it all went down.
It's like it's 3 in the morning, and I'm sleeping, and I have this thing called a sleep sanity.
I recommend it.
I got an ad on Instagram.
Oh, let me tell you about Instagram, guys.
I get these ads on Instagram, and I'm just smacking the buy button.
No matter what.
Their algorithm is really good.
They've got it down.
So I recently bought a pair of exoskeleton legs because of Instagram.
And I'm like, we're going to.
Meanwhile, I'm getting like dresses, makeup.
Carbon fiber exo legs that increase jump strength by 40%.
I got pots and pans.
You could be a basketball player now.
Aiden's skillets.
We're going to experiment with these things and see how they improve our ability to skateboard.
Because it's got an AI that tracks your gait and movement and predicts where you're going.
And then motors will help you lift your legs up.
Super crazy.
But anyway, I was on Instagram and this thing called Sleep Sanity was advertised to me.
It is a headband that covers your ears.
And it's not a blindfold.
It has some kind of visor screen that when you turn on, it dims.
It's darker.
Yeah, it's super cool.
And then it has orange glowing light around it,
which stimulates melatonin production.
And the headphones will play whatever sound you want or no sound at all.
So I have, before bed, I put this thing on.
All sound is gone.
And then it sounds like I'm standing in the Grand Canyon at all. So I have before bed, I put this thing on, all sound is gone. And then it sounds
like I'm standing in the Grand Canyon at night. It's playing like this wind blowing and it glows
yellow. And then I'm out like a rock. My deep sleep has increased by like 20%. My husband has
sleep apnea, so I might need that. You can't hear anything. It's great. Yeah, because I have
earplugs that I put in every night, and I think they damage your hearing.
Yeah, and the best thing is, even though I have them, I'm fairly certain the baby hasn't cried once.
I mean, when I wake up, Allison's hair is all messed up, and her eyes have dark rings under them.
But that's just, you know, something else.
Hey, Tim, before you go back into it, Hung Cao just posted a tweet from Donald Trump, or a truth from Donald Trump.
I am pleased to announce that Hung Cao will be our tweet from Donald Trump or a truth from Donald Trump. I am pleased to announce
that Hung Cao
will be our next
United States
Undersecretary of the Navy.
Wow.
He is the embodiment
of the American dream.
As a refugee
to our great nation,
Hung worked tirelessly
to make proud the country
that gave his family a home.
He went to our amazing
United States Naval Academy
and later earned
his master's degree in physics.
Hung served in combat
as a special operations officer
for 25 years.
With Hung's experience both in combat and in the Pentagon,
he will get the job done.
Congratulations to Hung and his wonderful family.
That's a great one.
Good for him.
I'm a big fan, and I firmly believe that he would have won
if he came on TimCast IRL.
I really wish he would have.
As a Virginia resident.
To be fair, I don't think we actually tried really hard to get him on the show.
I think I just tweeted about it one time and I'm not sure we actually reached out.
We might have.
But his ad was amazing.
Yeah.
The knocking on the door, fleeing Vietnam when the communists are coming.
That dude's great.
Congratulations to Hunko.
All right.
Garant says, call up the 101st Air Assault.
Secure the roof.
Set up man pads to prevent helicopter rescue and secure all entrances. Go through SDNY as a terror cell.
Bro.
Arrest them, he says. Arrest them all. All right. I'm not your buddy, guys. Says, if evidence and truth matter, Derek Chauvin would never have gone to jail. Public opinion is all that matters. Phase one means more to come. Indeed. And Mike Cernovich was talking about this.
He said Pam Bondi is doing her best.
And I genuinely believe SDNY is a rogue element.
Yeah.
Let's get some of these rumble rants.
We got Torched Medic.
If the agency tasked with enforcing the law does not want to do that and instead place politics, conspire against rights, rogue it's time to send the military to arrest them no no no no other feds military posse
comitatus we don't want to do that um the fbi should arrest the fbi there's a tweet that mike
ben sent out by the way with a excerpt from a 2014 cnn documentary about whitey bulger and
it says how the fbi hides critical damning evidence about FBI informants
from outside oversight or awareness by creating separate sets of FBI books for the same informant
and then putting the actual damning version in a special eyes-only safe only two people are ever
allowed to access. Whoa. No good. Interesting. Protocaster says a company I work with is
pursuing a lawsuit with the DNC because the DNC is refusing to pay their contract from one of the DNC events.
Good to know they're consistent, I guess.
Well, why would they?
They lost the election.
They ain't paying nothing.
Nicholson says, remind Mary that executive orders are like free samples to let people
see what they like and then help move polling for the laws to get passed.
Plus, we need an immediate win.
Free samples.
I love that.
It's a Sam's Club for dinner.
I know, right?
That's a great line.
IKY says, you called it, Tim.
Media boosting leftist podcasters.
Slate article.
Who's afraid of Hasan Piker?
He's hot.
He's dangerous.
Young men actually listen to him.
Is he what Democrats are looking for?
Sure.
I guess.
Look, man.
He's not hot, though.
If they want to go ahead and lift up Hassan Piker, more power to him.
It's only a matter of time before he says something else completely ridiculous that is completely out of step with the American people.
So, yes, DNC, get behind that man, throw a bunch of money in him.
And then next time he says something crazy, like the United States deserve 9-11,
they'll go ahead and you can spread that throughout the country and further discredit
your entire political party. All right. Pinochet says James Comey's daughter
prosecuted Maxwell. The trial was a farce, a scripted orchestrated farce. She prosecuted the case
but kept doors closed
and assured nobody would ask questions.
You know, did you guys
see that Megyn Kelly insinuated
Epstein's alive?
Pardon me?
You didn't see that?
On her podcast like last week, she said
she has a lot of information pertaining to Epstein
which you're going to hear from a lot of people
maybe even Epstein himself maybe audio recording exactly video yeah a lot
of people think that anthony bourdain was the body double i'm not kidding they're like how do we how
do we secretly get uh epstein out of jail we need a body double but the only one is anthony bourdain
we have such a striking resemblance from
the profile you know no people really did claim that at the time and and uh there's that meme
where it shows the the political compass and it's uh epstein hunter biden anthony bourdain and i
don't know who the other person was but they have a quarter of their face in each of them and they
all said that they look kind of similar.
Let's go.
What do we got?
Lucky Chariot says there's files posted to the FBI vault website.
I haven't read through them all, but there's 22 parts.
Are people saying there's more that hasn't been released?
Yeah.
So Pam Bondi put out new information, but it's not incriminating.
So there's a lot of new information. You can look at the flight logs, but it doesn't prove anything.
So Trump and his family apparently flew on Epstein's plane.
There's two stories.
One is that he was getting a ride to Atlantic City
and that Epstein wasn't even on the plane.
I don't know for sure.
The question is, did they fly to the island?
That's what I would like to know.
And I gotta be honest, guys,
I don't care if Trump is on the list.
Release it.
These liberals are like, oh yeah, well, Trump's on the list.
I'm like, wow, really?
Let me see it.
Get him.
Get him then.
Yeah, let me see the list. I'm here, wow, really? Let me see it. Get him. Get him then. Yeah, let me see the list.
I'm here.
I don't think anyone's arguing against that.
Oh, he's a child rapist, but he's a Republican?
Publish the list.
You're not going to hear people say, well, he's a child rapist,
but he's our child rapist.
No, they're going to say, take him to jail.
We have jail.
All right, we got Bill A's.
I'm a simple trucker from Oklahoma.
I think, yeah, it would be nice to know
the terrible people who were involved
in the Epstein Island thing,
but I'm more worried about our economy and the border.
That was what you were saying, Mary,
and I think you're right.
It is kind of interesting that Pam Bondi
made this story happen.
She didn't have to.
It's a chronically online issue
that no one in the real
world thinks or talks about i wish they would but they don't this morning i was uh i was talking
with sean and i was like we got this transgender story it's really big that trump booted like this
issue defiling saying all transgender personnel will be separated from the military and i was
like is that the big story or do we just talk about the Epstein stuff because the files haven't come out yet
and there's word that documents are coming out today?
And Sean was like, I don't think people really
care all that much about this ongoing Epstein story.
The views aren't there.
People don't pay attention to it.
And I was like, maybe we'd be better off waiting
until we get definitive information on Epstein.
And so I was just sitting here waiting
longer than normal for news to break. And so I was sitting here waiting like longer than normal,
you know, for news to break.
And we opted to open the morning show
with the transgender military stuff.
Yeah.
I found it so sinister that the phrase
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself became a meme
because it started out with people actually stating that
in earnest when they had reason to believe it.
And it just turned into a meme that meant nothing anymore,
and it became a laughingstock.
You don't think that people...
Lost its context in the process.
You think people that say it don't actually believe it?
What I mean is it was said in earnest at first,
and then once it became a meme,
the context was stripped from the statement and what it really meant
and the seriousness of it was lost.
I agree completely. I think I agree.
I think that was almost intentional. You notice how
none of the Jeffrey Epstein
didn't kill himself memes were
censored on social media.
They were allowed to reign free as far as I
could tell. I agree that it
tamped down the seriousness
but I think it became a meme because it was so obviously true i'm i i'm i think i'm i'm with you i think
that that it was kind of like everyone was like of course i i really feel like everybody like
hang himself with toilet paper yeah something it was i don't think i mean i don't think it was
might as well it was it was ridiculous it was, I mean, I don't think it was. Might as well. It was ridiculous.
And, you know, the only time, you know, the camera goes off just for the amount of time necessary for the man to, you know, shuffle loose this mortal coil.
And so.
I would like to pull up this here image from Message from the Mind Field of a super chat
from Tim Poole.
It says, howdy Tim cast friends.
I'm currently in the hospital waiting for my first child to be born.
Let's go.
And how dare you impugn my honor?
There it is.
Real fan.
637 thumbs up.
People were saying like,
Ooh,
you go Tim.
And,
uh,
it was,
it was very difficult for me.
I mean,
I had to sit on a couch and watch sci-fi for like 12 hours.
Is that how long she was in labor?
So tough.
Well, all of it.
Oh, man.
Man, my stomach hurt from the hospital food.
It's also like the sympathy pains, you know?
The what?
That's right.
Sympathy pains.
What's sympathy?
For what?
No, but a special heartfelt thank you to Allison.
She is incredible.
And she is currently taking care of the baby while I do work.
And she definitely has FOMO because she works here too.
And she does all the administrative stuff.
So she's always in and out working.
But now she's on a small maternity leave, sort of.
I mean, I still see her every day.
But, you know, baby can't go anywhere
just yet. Baby's only a week old. So there's a lot of things that have to be taken care of for baby.
And this is a true story. The other day we were watching The Five, as I do every day,
and I'm not kidding. Baby was sleeping. Greg Gutfeld starts talking, and she looks over at
the TV and opens her eyes, which
for a week old, the eyes are closed
all the time. It's too bright.
And starts just staring
at Greg Gutfeld as he talks.
The camera changed. I'm not going to say
to who because I don't want to be mean to them.
But Baby started crying.
Was it Jessica Tarloff?
No, I don't think she was on. I think Harold Ford Jr.
was on the show that time
it goes to commercial and the baby and baby just goes off and is crying and we're thinking okay
maybe it's a diaper change thing and then as we're you know taking care of baby it comes back
onto the five and greg gutfeld leads and baby immediately turns to the tv again looking and
then just stares at greg gutfeld and we all started laughing. And Allison's mom was
like, she loves Greg. And then it cut away from Greg after about a minute of him doing like it
was like the one more thing or whatever it was. And then baby started crying. And we were like,
I don't know why this baby likes Greg Gutfeld so much. But I tweeted, you know, my daughter knows
who the real talent on the five is there you go but that's i'm
not exaggerating in any way that's literally what happened i thought we thought it was hilarious so
harold ford jr is like like completely reasonable for a democrat but i i think tarlov and ford jr
are fake people like i'm i'm sorry man tarlov is a bit more insufferable, with all due respect, than Harold Ford Jr.
He does seem reasonable.
But how can you sit next to four people who are correct and then keep being wrong?
I don't get it.
Well, maybe we could ask Ian.
Ha ha!
I got him.
Zing.
No, but like for Tarlov, she's sitting there and it's it's like yo they fact-checked everything they're
showing you how could you keep disagreeing with them it's like she's just doing it she's wrong
while they pay her to be they're like you're the you're the you're the heel you know yeah well it
was like the the you know handy and combs like uh combs would sit there and just he was there to get
beat up and you know he did a good job of it let's grab
a uh we got we got time for maybe one or two more based african says phil isn't correct kamala would
not have run against jd as he had not been announced yet would have gone to rnc runner up
i believe nikki haley that's right oh yeah i would have gone to nikki haley yeah i meant to mention
that but i didn't want to We were already off to something else.
That's fine.
But then it makes me think, well, I don't know.
Were there interests not on the left?
Interests that wanted Nikki Haley to be the nominee?
I don't know.
No one says.
The story earlier about Andrew Tate and Ron DeSantis was at a press conference
called to shine a light on amazing work the Florida State state guard has been doing in the past few years rescue respond
serve go fsg do you guys hear that tate's in town he's in florida and uh my i i i gotta be honest
like i don't follow the controversies running and rotate i've seen some clips but that that's not
enough evidence for me to accuse him of anything other than the clips i
saw were kind of like they were horrible but i i don't know what i can tell you is all these
conservatives saying don't associate you know stay away from tate and all that stuff i'm like if you
concede this battleground andrew tate and just let him have the minds of all these young men
he won i don't understand what their argument is. Well, the argument is he made his money by
doing, you know, by being an only trafficking. Yeah. So like that right there is good enough
reason to be like, yo, you shouldn't associate with this. No, because if he's got 10 million
followers that are young men and you're like, I'm going to show him, I'm not going to talk to him.
It's like, he's got more followers than you, bro. You need to convince the young men following him. Assuming what you're saying about Tate is true, you need to communicate to his
audience. So you need him to sit down with you on your platform so you can challenge him on these
ideas and explain why he's wrong. If you say, I'm not going to associate that with that guy. Well,
he's already winning. He's extremely wealthy. He's got 10 million plus followers just on X alone, not to mention all his other platforms. If many women as possible and you're a conqueror.
The Western world and the greatest civilization known to man was built by monogamy.
That's it.
That's a fact.
I'm not – that's not an opinion.
So all these young men out there that are agreeing with him on that regard, he's not correct.
He's got some good talking points.
But again, I don't really follow much of the controversy around him.
I don't know yeah there was a like my thing was like look you know when you say you know go and have as many kids as you possibly can with as many women as
you can like that doesn't raise children and we need children that are raised in families that
are well adjusted like be a father that's how you win indeed not by just you know going around and
right inseminating women.
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