Timcast IRL - Epstein Transparency PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, Trump To SIGN Release w/ Ryan Neuhaus

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Tim, Phil, Elaad, & Tate are joined by Ryan Neuhaus to discuss the House & Senate passing a bill to release all the Epstein files, leftist media melting down after Trump is accused of calling a journa...list "piggy," Christians clashing with Muslims as protests erupt in Dearborn, Michigan, and NASA tracking a massive magnetic dent in Earth's magnetic field.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Tate @RealTateBrown (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Ryan Neuhaus @RyanMNeuhaus (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:56 sir? But he said, that's not how we get things done. Unfortunately for him, that is exactly how things got done. Now, we don't know what's exactly in these files or why Trump all of a sudden turned around and said, you know, let's release them. But I think it's fair to say, whether you're on the left or the right, everybody agrees. They've been scrubbed a long time ago. So what is the point of all this. It doesn't speak to the midterms or policy or anything, really. But it's the big story today because I guess everyone's exhausted, fatigued, and that's all the Democrats and Republicans are going to give us. So there is some other interesting news, of course. Donald Trump called a reporter Piggy. And conservative saying, no, no, no, no, her name is Peggy. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I like that Trump called a reporter Piggy. I don't know why he would, but sometimes they deserve it. And then in other news, there's Christians protesting Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, which is also just, it's a crazy newsday. They're throwing bacon at Qurans. And, okay, I guess, you know, if this is the direction the country is going, we'll bring you the news. I will say, because I do want to make sure you all remain interested. The magnetic field is weakening. There's big news from Science Alert that NASA is tracking this anomaly in the Southern Hemisphere where the magnetic has a dent in it, and it's expanding and growing.
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Starting point is 00:05:15 Joining us tonight to talk about this, and so much more, we have, Ryan Newhouse. Hey, guys, Ryan Newhouse. You can follow me on Twitter at Ryan M. Newhouse, N-E-U-H-A-U-S. What do you do? Former Chief of Staff of the Harris Foundation right now. I'm a pretty good dad.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Got four kids with my own, so I spend some time with them. Right on. We got Taye hanging out. What's going on, guys? Tate Brown here holding it down. Happy to hear with Ryan, Total Patriots. This will be a great show. I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Awesome, Tate. It's good to have you. Ryan, even better to have you. Hey, everybody. Good evening. My name's Al-Aliahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast. Phil. Hello, everybody. My name's Philibonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band. All It Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the news from CNN.com. Senate unanimously agrees to send Epstein bill to Trump's desk once it's received from the House. whole boy. The Epstein files. The House passed it almost unanimously. Only one person defective. The Senate unanimously passed it. And they're saying Donald Trump sign this bill. According to courthouse news service, Congress on Tuesday nearly unanimously passed legislation aimed at shining a spotlight on the federal government's investigation into Epstein. But the push to publish the so-called Epstein files is headed to President Donald Trump's desk without changes demanded by skeptical House Republican leadership.
Starting point is 00:06:29 both Democrats and Republicans have long urged Congress to pass legislation directed directing the Trump administration to publish a trove of documents on Epstein. Let me just put it this way. They've got a veto proof majority. Trump's going to sign this. I don't know what the point of this is. Anybody who's been following this for a long time, a great example of being Mike Cernovich, whose work actually got the Epstein files released, or I'm sorry, I should say, got the Epstein story to this point where they would release the Epstein files. Has said they've long destroyed any of the more important or pressing documents. So this seems like it's performative, largely a waste of time, and wait, there's more. Because while Donald Trump has come around and been like, okay, fine, release the files, which I think we're going to get nothing. We now can trust that our liberal friends are going to claim it's the bad move. So here's Brian Krasenstein on cue to say, my question about the release of Epstein files. What stops Trump from classifying any material he doesn't want released and then Pam Bonnie not releasing it? What stops Pam Bonnie from claiming?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Anything with Trump's name on it would be national security risk. Will other members of Congress, other members of Congress or from both parties get to see unredacted versions of whatever she redacts or classifies? You see, the funny thing is this guy's been screaming about Trump releasing the files. As soon as they say, okay, fine, we'll release the files. It's just not good enough. It's a fake story. The Epstein case is obviously real. I want the evidence everybody should, but I believe it was probably destroyed.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And I think this is principally distraction. And the reason Trump probably came around and said, okay, fine, release it, is because it's going to be a bunch of nothing. Big nothing burgers. I mean, I agree. I think there's probably nothing in it, but I think it's good because at least the American people get to see whatever they release, right? And then I think the question after this is accountability, right? Is there anything that's actually going to be forced from an accountability mechanism?
Starting point is 00:08:17 And I think you saw the beginnings of that today with, you know, I think it was Representative Green in the House who issued the censor resolution. and I think, you know, if members of Congress are communicating with Jeffrey Epstein, there should be accountability for that. And I think the American people would want to see that. Totally. I suspect that those who are crazed over the Jeffrey Epstein scandals will not be satisfied by anything that is found in these released files.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I suspect Candace Owens still won't be satisfied with this. Unless people get the maximalist conspiracy theory around Jeffrey Epstein, if Israel and the Assad and the CIA are not involved in a honeypot of 50 senators and 100 congressmen, then people will not be satisfied here. So I suspect that will continue to be the case here. Let me try my conspiracy for a minute if you just
Starting point is 00:09:06 entertain this. Why are they releasing the files now like this? Don't you guys think it's weird that every Republican and Democrat, except for one, but almost all of them agreed to release this, that seems strange. I don't buy it. They'd only release a rigged one where all of the
Starting point is 00:09:24 house, everybody in Congress supported it? This would have to be the scrub down version. We have to go with the, no matter what they do, it's always the wrong thing, angle of the conspiracy. Everything they do is evidence of the conspiracy. So in this regard, the conspiracy theory is, or the evidence is, all of them agreeing to release it is too perfect. And if it's too good to be true, it usually is.
Starting point is 00:09:49 That says to me, they're all in on it and they're planning on releasing fake files. this proves it. I'll be completely real because it is a little conspiratorial. I actually don't completely disagree with that. The fact that Democrats or Republicans are all like, yeah, we're all on board with this, says politicking nonsense. They're not going to give us real information.
Starting point is 00:10:09 The government is not going to release proof or details. It seems like if I had to make a bet, the DOJ, Democrats, Republicans, or otherwise, have going to, back years long destroyed any of the more significant documents and now they're going to they're going to release stuff that makes Epstein look bad but won't give you the names of any of his accomplices or associates or other intel assets. I think the emails are like one of the most bizarre parts because it's like first of all you have like congressmen just like emailing them
Starting point is 00:10:41 about recipes and stuff like it's the most bizarre stuff. And then also people will like install three VPNs and like have like 20 different passwords to use like a burner Twitter. Meanwhile Epstein is like just emailing like hey you want to go hang out with some kids later best Jeff and it's like out in the open I'm like this guy was so shameless with everything that's what I was reading through the emails that's what was the most shocking thing to me the the interesting thing I find is is not the actual release of the files because I do think I agree with with you a lot that the people that believe that nefarious things are going on about the release are going to believe that this is not a complete list they're going to say well there's Only some parts that have been released. It's not the full list. And people are going to take it as confirmation bias the same way they did with the release of the JFK files. People that are like, oh, people found in the JFK files what they were looking for, regardless of whether it was there or not. And I think this is going to be another situation like that.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But Shane was talking last night about Epstein's contacts with other foreign entities and people that he's been involved with. I think that that's the more interesting part of it because that kind of stuff speaks to the corruption that was involved as opposed to what is largely known, the stuff that he was in jail for trafficking. That was my point, the emails too, is like that just alludes the level of sloppiness that could explain why some of the timeline here is just like weird.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It's like, yeah, you can attribute a lot of this to just carelessness, sloppiness, cockiness, a lot of these different things. So, I mean, I think since there's consensus here that this is widely regarded as an attempt by Democrats and others to derail the Trump agenda. It really begs the question why
Starting point is 00:12:28 Rino Congressman Thomas Massey introduced this bill to the Congress in the first place for any other reason but to try to derail the Trump agenda. And I mean, Tim, that's your favorite congressman who introduced this bill. Yeah. He's Massey? He's a good conscience.
Starting point is 00:12:44 He's a great. And Roecona and this bill is a distraction from the Trump agenda. This bill, I give you a little bit for sure. I think the issue is that Democrats were the ones who initiated this. And Massey's like, okay, release them. No, no, no. He introduced it.
Starting point is 00:13:00 He co-sponsored the introduction with Rokana. Democrats decided that Donald Trump was implicated in Epstein and started putting up billboards of Trump and Epstein as friends. And this ignited the Trump Epstein saga, even though this was happening under the Biden administration and the first Trump administration, it seemed largely that Democrats didn't have a play politically. I can't tell you what they're campaigning on as a party. And so then, of course, Massey's like, I'm going to introduce this bill. Rokana said I'm going to introduce a bill. And then we got to this point where it's like, I don't know if there's, I would say half a distraction. Because I don't know what's going on anyway, to be completely honest.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I don't know what Trump is currently working on, right? Giving H-1Bs and Chinese visas without explaining what he's doing for the American people. I respect the terror fight. he might lose this one in Supreme Court. The dividends, it's a good play. I'm a fan of this. This is Congress's board. Republicans clearly are like, yeah, Trump's not threatened by this and we're over the story.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Sure, it was, so first it was the, like, there's roughly a handful of Republicans who were pushing, who are allying with the Democrats to allow this to advance. It was Marjorie Taylor Green, Thomas Massey, and they were there. Republicans didn't want it, and they were like, you know, even Speaker Johnson, and then when it became inevitable because of Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green and a couple of other. other Republicans is why Trump had to tell all these other Republicans to flip. So what do you think about those handful of Republicans? I would push back on the idea that it's inevitable when there's only a handful of Republicans when they're dealing with a body that's 435 members. If it was something that was inevitable, it would have had popular support in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It was inevitable because they just had a special election in Arizona, which gave them 218 votes, including Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massey. I don't know if it's also had Anapolina Luna, but it required those Republicans. or they weren't going to be able to advance this. Would you have any? I know you used to work on the hill a bit. What do you think about this inside politics? Am I crazy here about how Massey introduced this?
Starting point is 00:15:00 And, you know, there was a handful of Republicans necessary to advance this legislation, essentially derailing in attempts to derail the Trump agenda in my estimation. And I mean, that's why the president also has unendorsed Marjorie Trader Green, who he's calling her now, and an opponent to Thomas Massey. Yeah, I mean, from like, if you want to like talk procedure and stuff, which is, Totally boring. I mean, it was inevitable through the sense that, like, once they had a discharge position, it was petition. And the numbers that they needed to get that out the door in the house. Like, it was going to come to the floor and be debated, right? And it was going to have to be voted on. And if you're a Republican or a Democrat, and, you know, when Jeffrey Epstein died, that was a national news story. Like, every American was like, who is this guy? Who is he connected to? What are you talking about? He was trafficking young girls. And all of these wealthy billionaires and businessmen were going to his island. Like, who is this? this sick-o dude and why is he connected to like all of these important people around the world, right? So like from a trickle-down effect, I agree with Tim that like, yeah, the Biden administration
Starting point is 00:15:59 had these files for last four years. If Trump was like complicit in any of this stuff in a really damning way, then, you know, they probably would have released this stuff on their own, right, to really damage him in our coalition. So I think, you know, it's probably been scrubbed of, of meaningful things. But I think there was a period of time in which the American people were like very fired up about this issue. from like a political standpoint, like House Senate politics, like, yeah, once the discharge petition numbers were there, like, it was going to come up. And I didn't.
Starting point is 00:16:27 How should we feel about those Republicans who are willing to ally with Democrats to advance this legislation that I think is trying to derail the... To your point about it being derailing, if this actually does pass and it comes out and it puts it to bed, doesn't actually allow the MAGA agenda to move forward? Well, here's the thing. I don't think it'll put it to bed. Because of the things that we said. No, people will not be satisfied.
Starting point is 00:16:49 with what is in here. Well, also, yeah, like, part of the legislation is Bondi can redact things if it's threatening a current investigation, et cetera, et cetera. So she's going to have to do that. There's going to be something in there. It specifies for national security. Precisely.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And that's going to just add field of the fire. It's going to give more oxygen to this. I mean, even, it's very valid. But in a lot of ways, people are using it, they're weaponizing it. So it's going to become a side show. But the people that are going to say that this is, you know, like we said,
Starting point is 00:17:14 the people that are going to say that this is not complete or any redactions, mean, et cetera. they're going to say that anyways. That's like being worried about the Democrats are going to call you names or say that you're a racist because you talk about immigration. That's going to happen. There's no way that there's no world where they don't use this as a political tool. So the best option as far as I can see is to put as much information out as possible and say, look, we've put it all out. And so now we need to move on.
Starting point is 00:17:44 If they're not going to move on, they're not going to move on whether or not this information. Yeah, it's going to be a side sure. regard. I think nobody cares, to be honest. I think obviously the people watching this care because they're concerned about the goings on. But I'd be willing to bet that if we decided to change the thumbnail of the show and the title to actually, let me, let me do a quick search real quick. Today's title will be cloud flare. If we, to be fair, I mean, that was a big story and we will talk about it. But I think this is actually much more interesting to people. To be completely honest, if we did USA versus Uruguay, that's how you pronounce Yorigwe, by the way. Everyone says
Starting point is 00:18:19 then I think we'd get, how about Warriors versus Magic? All of these have substantially more search volume. The reality is we are political, as we care about politics, we care about these issues, but I think the average person is tuning out because the political space has largely become, you know what it is, it's fatigue.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And the fatigue is not that people don't care about the going on in the world so much, but that many people are basically saying, I've heard this 800 times already. I don't care. Give me something new. And they're going to release nothing because nothing ever happens. We get it. And we're going to be bored by it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So welcome to current politics right now in November. It's really devolving into drama and BS. And Ryan, you'd know nothing about that, right? No, of course not. Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah. No, I know all about that.
Starting point is 00:19:07 But to Tim's point, I think the other thing that really causes fatigue is these things come out and then nothing happens. Like there's no accountability. You have Benghazi, you have Burisma, you have COVID. Right? Like there's all of these events that we've demanded oversight for and nothing occurs. I mean, you've got the Biden-O-Pin scandal going on right now. And who's going to be held accountable for that? Is anyone? Right? And what does that even look like? So I think that looks like it looks like actually, I'm sorry, cloud flares trending traffic has declined considering, you know, we're back on the internet. But Google anti-gravity is on the rise as a trend. And more people care about whatever that is.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I will say. I'm actually really curious. And if you've never heard of the NBA, Warriors versus Magic sounds really whimsical and exciting. Warriors, man. Versus magic. Sounds like Dungeons and Dragons.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, that's sick. Oh, what's basketball? What's going on? What is this? To your point, Ryan, though, like, if that's the case, right, people don't actually, like the large portion of the American population
Starting point is 00:20:12 doesn't really care, I think that the administration should start focusing on doing whatever it can do, to benefit the lives of the everyday American who is having problems, paying their bills, who is having problems, making ends meet. Because that's what's going to matter in a year when people are going to the midterms.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I just wanted to get this in really quick for the record for the Republican Congresspeople who forced the vote on these Epstein files before the president asked all Republicans to vote for it. It was spearheaded by Thomas Massey, and then we have Nancy Mace, Lauren Bowbert. Marjorie Taylor Green. These are people also that
Starting point is 00:20:53 they're much more aware, they're much more accountable to like online their coalition has built off a lot of online things. That's where a lot of their oxygen comes from. So they're going to be more reactive to things that people that are tuning into a lot of these types of shows are. And that's just the reality. I want to talk about what the people care
Starting point is 00:21:09 about. So we're jumping to the next story. And that is from the Daily Beast. White House tries to defend Trump's piggy insult. Tries to defend? I could defend this. I just want to know who he called Piggy. All right, you guys ready for this? You ready for this? Why is this news? You know, I got to tell you, I wake up and I turn on, you know, I come in and I go on, everyone's like, the internet is down and Tate was basically, he was in the fetal position on the ground, crying, being like without X, I'm nothing. And I said, you're right. Anyway, when the internet finally
Starting point is 00:21:49 comes back, this is the story. Everyone's like Trump called a reporter Piggy. I guess now they're saying he was calling her Peggy. He said, quiet Peggy. He was saying Peggy, not Pete. I want to believe that he said piggy because that's the Donald Trump that I love. And it's also a weird thing to call some random journalist unless she's like a little fat woman. Right. A gordita. She's a little on the porky side, yeah. That means little fat woman, right?
Starting point is 00:22:13 In Spanish. I don't know. Yeah, you got it. Gordita. But I mean, like, that's the thing that people love about Donald Trump, the fact that he'll take it to the media, that he'll call him names. He'll do the Donald Trump thing. and, you know, insult the media who constantly insults him. Like, that to me is just red meat to the base.
Starting point is 00:22:34 The American people don't like political correctness. No. Here's the report. They say, this is Lucy, was asking him, if there's nothing incriminating in the file, sir, why not? And he says, before she could finish, however, Trump pointed his finger at her and barked, quiet, piggy. The remark was roundly blasted as disgusting. Oh, shut up. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I am, you know what, you know what I think this is? Liberalism is female-coded and conservatism is male-coded. It's disgusting to call a journalist piggy, but it's perfectly acceptable to call the President of the United States a Nazi. Yeah, come on. I, BS. I don't, like, it is far more offensive to imply that Donald Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler than it is to call a journalist piggy.
Starting point is 00:23:20 The woman is actually fairly gaunt. You know, I'm more disappointed that Trump called a thin woman, Piggy. Maybe she was like... I wanted to believe it was like this fat woman sitting there being like Mr. President. He was like, you're fat. And I'm just sitting there laughing. But instead, he just called some thin blonde woman piggy. Did she... It's funny either way. I think it's a potential like pickup tactic.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yo, you know, Piggy. It's called the Negging. Yeah, Negging. Yeah, exactly. And then you deploy that. You combo at the Bill Ackman. Like, may I meet you? And just... Oh, my God. May I meet you, Piggy? He's so sick. Irresistible. It's like W. Rizzez. And then she leaves being like, I am a big fan of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yep. And that's how Trump does it. It's the Riz. Is that what you said? That was W. Riz. Trump's Riz. The women just can't handle it. The Huzz can't resist.
Starting point is 00:24:09 In this case, the Puzz, Puggy Huggie. Pigey. Trump scolds. If you go to the top of the article, they say Trump 79, like he's like a random guy. What are we doing here? I don't know. So an old guy and it's fine. Also, look at the picture.
Starting point is 00:24:26 The queen's man calls woman piggy. Look at the picture that they chose to use of Trump. Dude, he's saluting a horse. He's loyal to horses. Pigs, disgusting, farm animals, horses, patriotic, aristocratic. I'm sure he's saluting the people who are on the horse, but that is what they're trying to make it look like. The question I have is why?
Starting point is 00:24:44 Guys, I don't need to ask the question. The reason this is news is because everybody is bored and there's nothing to talk about. It's true. I think that's probably right. Let's make up some news. Like two countries. Trump did a backflip and landed. in a superhero pose in the Rose Garden.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Well, up, Sora. Actually, it's the Rosegarten. Oh, actually, I'll do that. Like, two random countries. Let's just make up... Dude, Nauru declared war on Madagascar, dude, it's over. We can always talk about Venezuela. On Waconda, bro. That's true. That's what these, like,
Starting point is 00:25:12 these bricks people do. They're like, the Marshall Island has just signed a trade deal with Bangladesh. It's so over for the West. We could just start doing that kind of stuff. That'd be fun. You know what I like? We can do the content where you basically
Starting point is 00:25:25 just find something that you find a vagary and then just act like it's weird. This is what I, you know, actually, there's a lot we can talk about in this regard because people are sending me all these videos about Turning Point USA related to finances and all the conspiracy theories. And I've largely not talked about a lot of them. Now to get into specifics on that, but what I find with a lot of these conspiracy videos is it'll be like something like a lot will show up to do the show. Like I'm just giving me a hypothetical. And then like middle of the show he'll be like um hold on it's like i'll be sorry guys i'll be right back and that that's it and it's like maybe he maybe he's got the her she squirts who knows but then people what you do is for
Starting point is 00:26:04 the conspiracy show be like isn't it weird that a lot ran out from the show yeah what's he doing he got the call i won't he show us what this call was he's taking show us to elad who were you talking to right it was israel oh my god in in in in reality it actually was israel i lad is on the phone with him quite a bit so i'm just you know giving hypothetical the whole country this is This is how you entertain. You got to find something like, there's like a Coke can on the ground and you're like, isn't that strange?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Why is there a Coke can on the ground? With everyone in Israel. Like, yo, a lot, they was sick on the show last night. Dude, I think you won't support back. Like, great work. We're going back into Gaza. Thanks, dude. I think.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Like, are you not entertained? Dude, I wish I had that kind of power. Like, I pull no strings here. It's like, dude. I have zero pull. Look at this. Can I just, can I show you how funny this is? If you search for the word piggy,
Starting point is 00:26:53 Lord have mercy The Guardian Here's him pointing his finger in the face Trump faces criticism for referring to female Bloomberg reporter as Piggy Trump who just called a female reporter Piggy raged at ABC News journalist Trump told him in quiet Piggy
Starting point is 00:27:09 Was there a memo? You know what? You know what's funny when they say they got the call? The journalists got the call. They did. Oh, totally. Like Soros called them and said, I guess Trump called a piggy so everyone get mad and they're like, you got a bus. And then they'll go to their media. I'm kidding about Soros calling them.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Some of these journalists are going to write that anyway because they're nuts. He sends emails. He sends emails. Is he still around? His son's doing it. Actually, he tells Alex to go ahead and... Okay, wait, what is this? They're also saying Trump, who just called the female reporter Piggy,
Starting point is 00:27:38 rages at ABC News journalist for being too mean to him. So true. Don't be mean to him. Okay. It's true. It's been 10 years of them being mean. I know. It's unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It's not the question that I mind. It's your attitude. I hope you're a terrible reporter. It's the way you ask these. questions. You start off with a man who's highly respected asking him a horrible, insubordinate, and just a terrible question. Insubordinate? And you could even ask that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched. Somebody psyched you over at ABC. They're going to psych it. You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter. As far as the Epstein. He's so good at it. I have nothing to do
Starting point is 00:28:21 with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of my club. Many of him. years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert. But I guess I turned out to be right. But you know who does have Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his island many times I never did. Andrew Weissman are here.
Starting point is 00:28:45 All these guys were friends of his. You don't even talk about those people. You just keep going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion that I talked about today. Hey, hear, hear. It's a hoax. Now, I just got a little report, and I put it in my pocket, of all the money that he's given to Democrats. He gave me none, zero, no money to me, but he gave money to Democrats.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And people are wise to your hoax. And ABC's is your company, your crappy company, is one of the purpose. And I'll tell you something, I'll tell you something. I think the license should be taken away from ABC. Because your news is so fake and is so wrong. And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should look at that because I think when you come in and when you're 97% negative to Trump and then Trump wins the election in a landslide,
Starting point is 00:29:44 that means obviously your news is not credible. And you're not credible as a reporter. So I've answered you question. I've answered your question. You should go and look at the Democrats who received money from Epstein, who spent their time. Larry Summers was with him all the time. That creep of the fund guy was with him all the time. What's his name? Reid Hoffman. I don't know Reed Hoffman, but I know he spends a lot of money on the radical left. Reed Hoffman, in my opinion, should be under investigation. He's a sleaze bag. And those are the people. but they don't get any press, they don't get any news,
Starting point is 00:30:23 and you're not after the radical left, because you're a radical left network. But I think the way you ask the question with the anger and the meanness is terrible. You ought to go back and learn how to be a reporter. No more questions from you. So true. No soup for you.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I love it. Just mid-rat, he collects his thoughts. He's like, you're just a terrible person. I love that. I love that. So I'm not going to lie. My biggest fear as a White House correspondent is asking a question to the president,
Starting point is 00:30:48 having him say, what outlet are you with and then calling me fake news and saying I should be out of here. Dude, he'll do that every now and then. I'm with Tim Kast and it would be like, I don't like that Weasley little mother. Are you kidding? You'd be flattered if he said that. He'd say, I've never heard of that. Go work for a real company. That's what he said to a couple of other outlets. Oh, really? Yeah. But what you got to do, Eli, is my advice to you. You have to say, Mr. President, two questions. Actually, a statement and a question. You're brilliant. I love you. Your hair is fantastic. About the tariffs. Do you think you're going to make it to the Supreme
Starting point is 00:31:19 court? He loves it when the reporters glaze him, but I refuse to. And he'll make a mockery of it too when a reporter will ask a super, they're journalists in the White House course, like, who got put in the pool, who asked questions like that, and he'll say, look how wonderful this person is. This is my favorite reporter. And it's a little bit too on the nose for me. And I think he doesn't respect it either. Dude, if he ever, like, gets like really mad at you and then he's like, what organization you do with? He's just like, um, ABC? We'll give you a license. We're sorry. Or you just got to be like, Mr. President, a question, as the greatest president of my lifetime, how do you feel the Supreme Court potentially striking down your tariffs?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Tim, just whatever the question is, add with as the greatest president of my generation. You got a glaze a little. You guys are doing it wrong. Mr. President, as the most pro-Israel president that has ever existed. Why do you support Israel and the Jewish people so much in a time of rampant anti-Semitism? Why are you standing up for the Jewish people so fervently? Why are you so brave and so masculine to stand up when it's such a... And handsome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:21 President Trump, do you call me, Piggy? I'm kind of into that. Mr. President, as the most handsome president of my generation, do you have concerns over your staunch support of Israel being taken by anti-Semites and used against you in the midterms? Also, you look fantastic. A lot, I desperately need you. If you get a question, say, President Trump, gay son or thought daughter. because the country wants to know
Starting point is 00:32:43 the country wants to know where he lines up on that. People talked a lot of shit to me when I asked what is a woman. That was one of my first questions. I was trying to start off easy with him. That was great though. He loved it. And then a lot of reporters were like, oh, you get an opportunity to ask the president a question, like that's what you waste your question on. And he said, someone who's much smarter than me.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, exactly. See, that's like a 50s answer, you know what I mean? Like men pretending that women were smarter than them? You know, make believe. Yeah, it's hard to feel bad for any of these. journalists because they're actually in a hyper privileged position to be in any of those these locations to begin with. I desperately wanted to be in the gap in the pool when muhammad bin solbman was here earlier today. They had the opportunity to go in there and ask questions to them.
Starting point is 00:33:25 If you're ever on Air Force One, you have to have a lot of money to be able to pay to be on there. It costs money to be on there and that's a barrier to entry. But then for them to give you that access and then let you to be on there, you know, to be able to ask the president questions, you're in a position of power. All these people are hyper privileged. I'm lucky to be there. Beyond that, I saw it was like Rebecca the Blaze reporter. She got like free McDonald's. What?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah. From Trump? Yeah. Like, what are they, what's going on? It's like, I want to hang out. He only does that for young beautiful women. I haven't gotten free McDonald's. They might think I keep it.
Starting point is 00:33:55 You got a glaze a little more. That's what it is. No, I can't. I can't, I can't, you should, bring McDonald's to him. Ooh. I can't. I don't have direct access.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I was thinking of John, when you go to the wranglers, though, with flowers or something. You know you should do is. Caroline Levitt, I could get her to something. No, no, when you go to the Oval Office next time and, like, Trump's going to be there, bring two, like, Big Macs and literally be eating one as you ask your question. I actually brought one for you, Mr. President. My question for you is, he's going to like, oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I love these things. You saw he did that McDonald's Summit, and he said, like, I've been a great customer or something like that for a long time. He was like, I'm the first fry cook to be president. Yeah, that's right. The first fry cook who later went on to become president. So true. Let's jump to this story. This is a weird story.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Protests in Dearborn, anti-Islam activists clash with Muslim residents. Well, my understanding is they're Christians that are clashing. And we have this video from Nick Shirley. I think this is the right video, right? He says, happening now, Christian and Islamic protesters are clashing in Dearborn. Korans have been hit with bacon and burning attempts of the Quran have happened. This could get ugly. Speaking of piggy.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Right now here in Dearborn, Michigan, you have a group of Christian protesters who have came out here to Dearborn, as it is the number one city for Islam here in the United States, as it is one of the only towns here in the United States for the majority of the population along to the religion of Islam. Some people have been attacked. One man attempted to burn the Quran as he beat the Quran with bacon. The police have now shown up. Counter protesters are over here.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You have Palestinian protesters, Islamic protesters, and it has gotten wild here. People have been pepper sprayed. Cam Higbee was pepper sprayed. And you're also seeing true takeovers as well as do have blocked off all of the road. And now traffic is coming through. And we're got, yes, sir, I got you. And right now you have a bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And it's only about 3.30 right now. It could get wild here in Dearborn, Michigan. We'll see what happens. Who would have thought that the Crusade of 2025? We're going to be in the United States taking back Dearborn, Michigan. You know what this reminds me? I want to show off this far. side comic to the Davos
Starting point is 00:36:06 group and the World Economic Forum so they can understand Dearborn, Michigan. It's a comic from the far side where there's two aliens and one says, Zarek, you idiot, you've mixed incompatible species in the Earth Terrarium and it's an Earth terrain with a grizzly bear eating a hunter. And my point is
Starting point is 00:36:22 when I see Christians and Muslims fighting each other in Dearborn, this multicultural democracy idea they have where they're like, multiculturalism is great. Until you put two religions next to each other that oppose each other and they start fighting and we don't want that to happen. We are not, you're not going to have an ideology that doesn't like the other ideology,
Starting point is 00:36:46 stand at each other, smile and work together. And that's the problem of polarization in this country is because the more entrenched the ideology gets, the more likely you're going to get towards the higher the chance of getting towards violence. Well, what they've done in this country is they've created enclaves of various groups like Somalis in Minnesota, Minneapolis, and now Islam in Muslims. in Dearborn, and in these surrounding areas, you're going to have American Christians, and you're going to have a growing influence of Islam, and there's going to be a clash of ideas. Because there's going to be people in the American traditionalist side being like, hey, what you're
Starting point is 00:37:17 doing to those little girls is not good. Not saying like literally every Muslim's going to do that, but there's practices in Islam that Americans will not tolerate or even illegal that are happening there in Dearborn. This idea of mixing all these cultures in terms of putting them next to each other does not work, you will get people to fight. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, the Democrats you expect them to support this, obviously, because they subscribe to the blank slate theory, these sorts of things. But even the Republicans are completely to blame for this,
Starting point is 00:37:43 because for the longest time, the dialogue, even Republicans are endorsing mass migration. They're like, well, we'll just give them like a pocketbook constitution, and they'll become as American as anybody else. And this is every single time you see a story like this where we've imported some sort of old world conflict into America. it's just a reminder that like, no, there actually is something intrinsic to being an American. It's a little bit deeper than just like general vague subscription to like liberty and freedom.
Starting point is 00:38:09 It's like, yeah, most people are like on board at that. There's a little more to it. We've got to dig a little more. That's like that's why the last question Charlie Kirk really posed the movement is, what is an American? Because as our borders have been open for so long, they're going to see more and more of this. And that question is going to cry out for an answer more and more and more. Totally.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And I think there's a huge problem in America with assimilation right now. Like, what are people assimilating to? Right. It's, it's, that question of what does it mean to be an American actually provides an answer that, like, they're not assimilating to our traditions. I just watched, I just watched a podcast with Nick Fridus and Aaron McIntyre. And Aaron had a great, great thought about this. The idea that you can just come to the United States and, like, we have magic dirt, you're going to automatically become, you know, a Jeffersonian, you know, democracy lover. This was, and I've said this before, this was solidly, this idea was solidly proven wrong when the United States invaded Iraq.
Starting point is 00:39:08 You threw dirt on people and nothing happened. Yeah. I mean, they didn't, you know, you brought them democracy and what did you get? Not a Jeffersonian democracy. I just need to pause right there and say, we tried that with Liberia a long time. We did, we did. This is true. So this, this has been known for a long time.
Starting point is 00:39:25 The Liberian constitution almost completely. It's a mirror image of ours. It's almost the exact same thing. And it didn't turn into the United States. Oh, yeah. So that makes sense. How's that possible? Well, you know, it takes a certain, it takes a certain kind of people that are looking for the type of government that we have.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And it's like you've said before, the Constitution, it doesn't make people love the Constitution. Right. If your constitution is in the people and they believe in the Constitution, if you have a population that doesn't believe In things like property rights, no written constitution is ever going to make them believe in property rights. I mean, it doesn't work because America is not an idea. It's a nation. It's a people with a shared heritage that recognize and understand that their rights don't just come from parchment, right? It's not just the constitution.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It's from God. And it's a shared belief in that creator and those specific rights that are bestowed upon them. And they come with duties, right? And I think, you know, a lot of, for a long time, we've had this post-World War II consensus that like America is an experiment. It's a city on a hill. You had, you know, the George Bush second inaugural address where we're going to take this to the world, right? That's a failure. Neo-conservatism was one of the most, I think, misguided and destructive ideologies that seeped into the right in in just like American political history.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And it's done untold damage. You've lost treasure. You've lost lives. And you've lost purpose. And, you know, for a long time, people talked about America as a melting pot. Multiculturalism does not produce a melting pot. It produces a pressure cooker. And this is what that creates.
Starting point is 00:41:11 It produces enclaves. It produces enclaves of people that have like-minded, you know, cultures. And they believe that they want to have their society in a larger, broader society. And this is like the, this is where the conversation needs to move. Because when you're like talking about immigration, why we should restrict immigration, everyone is an agreement or, you know, a lot of people on the right are an agreement that like, okay, so there's some economic impacts, like housing jobs, et cetera, et cetera. But we also need to like stop shaming people for having like concerns about the culture of their country changing. Like immigration as a British person radically alters your culture because the demographic composition of your country is a very valid complaint to have, a very valid concern to have. And so I'm really tired of people that are supposedly on our side, like tone policing everybody, over saying like, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:42:00 It would be nice if New York City like, Zoron wouldn't be a thing. Because Zoran actually is assimilated. He's assimilated to New York City. That is what New York City looks like in 2025. Zoron's actually a great representation of what New York City in 2025 looks like. Go to Queens. It's half foreign born. Same thing with Elon Omar.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Elon Omar is actually a great example of what Minneapolis looks like. It's like a quarter of Somali. So it's like, yeah, I think, I mean, it's. immigration or economics aside, we're all in agreement there. The cultural component is a perfectly valid concern to have. You change the people out. The culture is going to change. It's not this magical thing that floats around that you absorb like in the air.
Starting point is 00:42:39 It's in you. Another thing that Orrin was saying in that podcast, he was saying, you know, just because you have someone that comes to the United States, they shouldn't automatically think that they're going to become a citizen. And he was saying, you know, maybe he's like, just because you get a green card and you're allowed to live here doesn't mean that you'll become a citizen doesn't mean that you should you should expect to be able to vote maybe your grandkids will right like but the idea that you know you come to the united states and you become a citizen and you automatically get a set you're in get enfranchisement and
Starting point is 00:43:08 you get a say in how this country is is you know what the government's like and and what kind of laws are passed like that shouldn't be the way that we run our country yeah what kind of what kind of empire historically would allow a foreigner to come to that country who, like, bothered to get a citizenship like five years ago and then take over the seat of that empire. Like, on what planet are we doing that? And that's exactly what's happening right now with Zoron. We used to be a much more brutal people. Yeah. And we look back on these things often with derision and regret. And I think there are many circumstances in which we should. But I also think there's many circumstances in which we should not.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And that is this idea, I'll put, what I mean to say is this, if you were at a bar or restaurant and let's just go back, I don't know, maybe the 60s, 70s, you're with your wife
Starting point is 00:43:58 and a guy walked up and said something untoward to your wife, the guy would punch him in the face, no cops would be called, and everyone would be like, don't talk about a man's wife like that. Today, it's just like pure litigious.
Starting point is 00:44:13 No one, everyone puts their hands up and like, what do we do? The criminal runs, you know, someone will steal money from the register. And everyone's like, better not do anything about it. You've got this story where a guy tried shoplifting from a spirit Halloween. And when the security guard stopped him, fight breaks out. And when the criminal is on top of him punching him, the security guard shoots the guy and gets charged.
Starting point is 00:44:34 So a criminal tried robbing a place and a security guard doing his job to stop him is getting beaten by the guy, shoots him in self-defense, and they charge the security guard. That's what I mean by we are not a brutal people. in the right way anymore. We've gone too far in the other direction and now we're basically like no, no, don't.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Like the criminals, it's not their fault. Have we stopped to ask what socioeconomic factors made the guy try to steal from the store? Yeah. Well, the brutality is permitted
Starting point is 00:44:58 for like the lowest common denominator. Like there is a proportion of the country, like the homeless, people that are just in general, just delinquents, like they're permitted to just impose brutality
Starting point is 00:45:07 on the rest of the country and we're just like supposed to take it and like hope that they just stop because of... Have you no heart? They read a pamphlets. Let me pull the story. From the Associated Press, man sets fire to a woman on a Chicago L train before fleeing police,
Starting point is 00:45:23 and the only question I have is what socioeconomic factors led this man to incinerate, to immolate this woman, this poor man, this poor man. You know what? It was our fault. He did this. We should all apologize. I'm pretty sure this was for Palestine. I was joking, but for real? No, probably. Do we know anything about him?
Starting point is 00:45:44 Who is this guy? Let me read this story. Here's a story they say a man doused a woman with fluid and set her on fire. I don't mean to take this lie. I mean, this is a horrifying story. Right. Leaving her in critical condition. The attack happened Monday night in a blue line train.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Witnesses told the investigators a 26-year-old woman and a man believed to me in his 40s began arguing. And the man then doused her with a liquid and set her on a light. When the train pulled into the Clark and Lake Stopped, the man fled and the woman stumbled out and fell to the ground. Police said, noting she was taken to a hospital. A person of interest in the attack was taken into custody. like many other so is there another story on like the argument i'm sure there is i'll try and find it but um i was i was mocking the circumstances around our lax society right and how it's come to the point where you had a street immolation a guy had lighter fluid on him like what is going on
Starting point is 00:46:32 yeah because the argument precedes the lighting on fire so like presumably he had it on his inventory already and then like i don't know either he's picking a fight or like he's just like i don't want to carry a fire on but if i get in a fight he'll just light someone else. on fire. This is a serious story. The joke is actually distasteful. Now I feel bad. The joke is distasteful? My joke, yeah. What you...
Starting point is 00:46:52 He did it for Palestine. Oh. Oh, you were joking? Yeah. I thought you were literally... Because they got into an argument over something. I thought there was a news story saying they were arguing Israel because of that guy who self-immolated a couple of years ago outside of... I forgot his name. Or there's the other story you mean the other story where the guy went up to the pro-Israel people and
Starting point is 00:47:09 doused them with... No, no, there was another guy who... I get your point. I'm saying... This is what happened. I'm just saying... I'm just saying... I'm just saying... I make the joke when someone literally already did this. That's why I thought you were being serious. No, yeah. Yeah. That's why it was distasteful.
Starting point is 00:47:20 It lost. My point ultimately was... Very distasteful. I don't pull the strings clearly. It is insane. Yeah, they just say verbal altercation. I thought you were literally saying, because maybe AP was omitting that fact,
Starting point is 00:47:32 because they would do something like that. No, no. But there was a verbal altercation. 26-year-old woman and a 45-year-old man, and he poured a liquid on her and ignited it. I try not to beef with Randos on this. street, especially with people with nothing to lose. Those are the people who you want to argue with the least.
Starting point is 00:47:48 If they look like they have nothing to lose, you just got to take it, drop your ego, walk away, especially from the usual suspects, homeless-looking people. I learned during COVID in D.C. when it was like me and just the tweakers on the metro, that you just don't interact with anyone on the trains. You just don't. There's a ton of people who just camp out and ride all day long that are ready to lose it. This is a lesson you learn in Chicago. My friends from the suburbs would road rage all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:14 and I was like, you will be shot and murdered. I'm like, if you are in my car, don't scream and hang out the window at another vehicle because they will pull a gun and put a bullet in your face. You just let them honk, rage, or cut you off. It's not worth it. Bro, I've been driving down the street in Chicago, and a guy just pointed a gun out of his car and just shot at me and my brother for no reason. No reason whatsoever. Don't give them one.
Starting point is 00:48:36 This is Chicago. It is insane. This is what we get. You know what's really funny. Guys, I have a funny add-on to this story. I'm going to pull this up on X. I didn't know this. I just found out recently that I had made this post about crime by political party that went massively viral.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And I was not aware. I have it right here, actually. And we'll throw this into the mix. And what I said was this. This is what violence rates look like depending on political party. How effing weird am I right? When you get rid of fringe wackos and count crime by party control, it looks a lot different. I literally said by party control, the graph literally says total violence rates for the sum of cities.
Starting point is 00:49:18 This is 23 combined violent rates by party. The graph is, I went out chat GPT, and I said, of the top most populous cities, give me a graph showing total crime by party control. And this is what you get. This is the data. In the top cities, most of them are controlled by Democrats. And do you know what the response I get is? Well, this chart is only true because Democrats run most cities. And I'm like, that's literally my point.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I don't understand how is that an argument to what I'm making. I'm making the point. You are getting a massive amount of crime because Democrats are running the cities. Like, do you agree? Well, here's the funny part. Snopes, it's got 26.3 million views. I didn't know. It got so much attention.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I tweeted and just forgot about it. But Snopes did a breakdown. And they were basically. saying Tim Poole's data is misleading is it doesn't actually clarify what's going on, blah, blah, blah. So they made their own graph, which shows literally the same thing. Combined violent crime rates by mayoral party of the 13 U.S. cities are the highest crime instances. And it's even lower for Republican. The point is, in a city where the population votes Republican, crime is, there is less crime. And on average, the point of the chart was not to say Republicans commit less crime than
Starting point is 00:50:43 Democrats, it was to say Democrats control all of the major cities and this is where crime is happening. My expectation from this, because we've gone over the data before, a separate chart, is that in cities where you have a Republican mayor, crime is actually lesser. So you don't need to look at the top 13 cities. Look at West Virginia. Virginia, crime is lower on average here than in other places. You look at all of the major blue cities, and that is where most of the crime is occurring. The reason I put this together is because there was a story from the Washington Post a couple years ago that said when you track per capita and when you track volume, Democrat cities have
Starting point is 00:51:23 the highest per capita and the highest volume of crime. And there was only one city at the time. It was San Diego that was run by a Republican that made it to the top, and it had a lower than average crime per capita and by volume. and they argue, but by volume doesn't make sense because there's a lower population. Agreed. Per capita then. This is what you get in places like Chicago.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Look, man, here's the question for you guys and for the audience, and you guys can comment. How do you feel about living in a society where you are told? If someone begins to berate you or threaten you, shut up and just do as you're told.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Feel bad. I want to live in a world with more Daniel Pennies. Oh, for sure. I have always been more of the mind of growing up in Chicago, the lesson I learned was if you refuse to be weak, they'll leave you alone. And I think this is true because the United States for a while had this ethos in terms of foreign policy. We don't negotiate with terrorists for hostages for anything. But if someone takes a kidnapper in a foreign country, the U.S. says they make sure the statement is, you will get not a single penny from us, but special forces will rain down at two in the morning from a helicopter
Starting point is 00:52:36 with night vision and put a bullet in the face of you and your families and rescue the hostages. So what happens? This is what they train in hostile environment. They tell you, if you're an American and you are kidnapped, hang tight, you will be rescued. Now, if you're European, you're going to be sold because the European policy is pay whatever the ransom is. So when kidnappers see a foreigner, if they kidnap you and you say I'm an American, they'll drop you and say, get out of here, go away. Because they know the only thing's going to happen is a helicopter at 2 in the morning and night vision goggles. But if you say I'm Spanish or I'm German, they'll say payday, and they'll take you. That's the macro lesson. Certainly there are instances where if you're
Starting point is 00:53:16 walking on the street and some crazy dude threatens you and you try and go to a fight, you might die. That's true. But in my view, the science shows this. We've talked about it before. If you're the kind of person that will be demure, when someone comes up to and threatens you say, yes, anything you say, you will get robbed more often, and this is why it's spreading. We used to be a more brutal people. We are not anymore, and the reality is this woman was immolated, and she's probably going to die. Had she pulled out a knife, she'd be in prison. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Well, yeah, I mean, the brutality was all the way up. Like, I mean, the government handled this before this needed to be handled on the street. That's what loony bins are for. This guy should have been in a loony bin. He's probably distributing some really distressing behaviors. You'd probably be in a rubber Ramada right now. That's fair. That's fair, but in all seriousness, this might just be a guy who, in his view, he's in his 40s.
Starting point is 00:54:10 He lived a life. He developed in this city. He believes he can do what he wants. How does a culture get to the point where people have no fear? That they can bring lighter fluid or some kind of flammable liquid and be on a train and be like, dousing a woman. I got to be honest. how I understand it's a matter of seconds to splash someone with a liquid and then light them up
Starting point is 00:54:33 but it's still not faster than a stab or something. I'm curious, people don't expect this. I says it's a better way to put it. Now that it's out there, I got to say if someone splashes you with a liquid run or if they're about to splash you, run, it could be an acid attack. It is insane that we have to say this, but this is what our cities have turned into because we have You know, I take that back. I'm sorry. We are our brutal people to the innocent.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yes. And the Democrats are brutal to those who would seek to protect themselves. Yeah. They literally prioritize the most dysfunctional people. And this doesn't just apply to crime. This applies to everything. Is that the dysfunctional in our society are prioritized with everything. And it's really infuriating.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Crime is where it costs people's lives. So that's where it's the most prevalent. Yeah, this guy, presumably, I'll just speak about like these homeless. these mentally disturbed people in general, is they don't even have the mental faculties to even comprehend what the outcome could be of their action. And that's why they need to be institutionalized. They can't even understand that there would be any law
Starting point is 00:55:41 that would come down on them. When your IQ is so low, you have zero impulse control, you have zero comprehension of consequences. That's why the breakfast question's a thing. This guy would not be able to answer the breakfast question. No, but again, what if he can? What if this is a person who's of sound mind who just says they will do nothing about this? It could be, but he would be an exception to the majority of people on the Chicago trains that are walking around that are just ready to snap at any moment.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I think what we've seen, it's fair to say that in a lot of Chicago with the violence, it certainly is a breakfast question issue. These guys are killing each other because they're being insulted on the internet. Yeah. It's funny because for most people, when you go online and we all insult each other, it results in nothing. but in Chicago, you insult somebody that showed up to your house and they got switches and they just spray your house down
Starting point is 00:56:29 and there was a story I covered where some old lady got killed because the dudes lived in the second floor in an apartment and in the back so when they unloaded in the house the lady in the first floor got killed because the guys upstairs were talking smack on Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Those guys wouldn't answer the breakfast question. If those aren't familiar, it's if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt? And if their response is but I didn't have breakfast or, but I did have breakfast,
Starting point is 00:56:54 it means they can't understand a conditional hypothetical. And the response should be if I didn't, hungry, I guess, or if you're someone who doesn't, I don't eat breakfast, I'd say, well, considering I don't eat breakfast,
Starting point is 00:57:05 I probably would feel the same as I always do. I don't know. There are many people, you know what? I love the conditional hypothetical thing. Just ask everybody a conditional hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Yeah. Well, ask that reporter, it's like, hey, how would you feel if Trump didn't call you Peggy? You're like, he did call me Peggy. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:57:19 It's probably the answer. You would indeed get. average journal. You know, the problem is, I think it's multifaceted. First of all, it's the criminals know that most people in our society are going to behave in a passive way, so they're going to be able to get away with it. And a big part of the reason why people will behave in a passive way is because, first of all, the justice system will prosecute you for defending yourself if you actually, quote, unquote,
Starting point is 00:57:47 win the engagement, right? you somehow are able to come out on top and not get beaten to a pulp or you're able to defend yourself. The justice system is going to prosecute you or attempt to prosecute you like it did with Daniel Penny. And they know that if they're the people that are aggressing, if they're going to attack people, the justice system will not prosecute them. You've got consistently repeat offenders that are carrying out these attacks and stuff. And there's nothing that the the government does. The government doesn't put them, the justice system doesn't put them in jail. They're released on bail or bond immediately. They walk around, they walk right out the same day.
Starting point is 00:58:26 They're arrested. And so there's no downside to people that have low impulse control, just behaving however they want. Yeah, we've forgotten as a society that some people just don't want to be rehabilitated, right? Yeah. Some people are just crazy. Some people do intend to enact violence on others. And, you know, I had a friend in DC, Philip Todd, who was subject to this. He was just walking down H Street. I think it was around dinner time. And this guy who was released a couple days before on, I believe, for step back credits, just knifed him in the street.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And he got knifed in the head. He was a Rand Paul Staffer. You can look this up. But is he OK? He's OK. Yeah, he survived. But it was in the head? It was terrible.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah, tragic. Yeah. And it happens to more people than you think. And this was why I particularly was so ecstatic about President Trump putting the National Guard in DC. Agreed. because there were so many staffers that were getting carjacked. Right?
Starting point is 00:59:19 There were so many staff that were going out at night to just go to the bar and have, you know, just a social gathering with their friends or just leaving work from the hill and just interacting with people that only meant harm for them. There was a period of time on the hill. I mean, people who worked with me know this. Like, I was seriously pushing for staff to be able to conceal carry on the hill, right? Because, I mean, think about it. And they still should be allowed to.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Exactly. They totally should, right? I mean, the secret is, like, there is a little area in the law that actually allows them to if a member delegates that ability. But the issue is, like, with a surprise attack, you're walking down the street and someone comes behind you, you don't just spin around and draw on them. You know what I mean? So if someone is nuts and they're just going to stab you, there's little you can do except for never let anyone walk near you. And I'm not saying draw them. I'm saying walk the other way, turn around, face them, back off, move the other direction.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And that's the sad thing is these policies have resulted in people who are saying, what is the meme online? Would you rather be racist or dead? Or would you rather be alive and racist or what is it? Not racist and dead or something like that. A sentiment, yeah. And it's being said by people who typically are racist, but the point they're making is what's the point of taking the chance? If you're racist, who cares? If you decide not to be sooner or later someone might stab you.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And I'm like, I think it's actually more so just depending on the area you're in and there's high crime, don't walk near people. The sentiment is just like stay away from other people. It's a scary thought. That's the world we live in. And it's because we are not a brutal people anymore. Again, correction, we're brutal to the victims. And because of that, people are scared to defend themselves. Let's jump to this story, though.
Starting point is 01:01:05 The end is nigh. I hope you guys have prepared and kissed your loved ones. NASA is tracking a vast anomaly growing in Earth's magnetic field. Y'all noticed that there was an Aurora that reached down to Central Texas in Florida recently. A little odd. Indeed it is. I talked with Ben Davidson and fact-checked this, but yes, in the last hundred years, there have been 10 northern lights phenomenon in the lower 48 reaching down this far into the United States.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Five of them happened in the last two years. Ben Davidson argues that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening. And so solar storms as well as standard solar activity is more likely to penetrate to the surface, causing power outages and radio problem, static, interference, et cetera. And then we get this story. This one's actually kind of freaky. They say since 2014, there is a gigantic dent in the magnetosphere that has grown to the size of, I think it says, Europe and getting bigger. So the question I have here with this story, and they say, don't worry, it won't affect life on Earth. We've seen, again, with these auroras, there are theories that are called Kuki that the poles may shift, and this will cause a catastrophe on Earth, a cataclysm.
Starting point is 01:02:29 At the same time, I wonder if there is a connection to the fact that billionaires are building mountain bunkers in New Zealand, underground in Hawaii, in Montana and Wyoming. Why are powerful people building underground mountain bunkers? Now, it could just be that if you got the money, why not? Right? If you're sitting on billions of dollars, Elon's probably like, sure, I guess, what else are you doing with it, right? However, we know that cash, that net worth isn't liquid. This would mean these billionaires are liquidating assets into cash to fund underground bunkers for themselves. What is leading them to believe they need these things. World War III? Is that reasonable?
Starting point is 01:03:13 Is there something they know about the gigantic Europe-sized dent in the magnetic field? Zoranamani. That's true, too. That's true, too. Or are we facing the end of days? Look, if you have means to do that, I think that that's something that's been popular for Americans for a long, long time.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Ever since, you know, ever since the dawn of the atomic age, people have been building some kind of underground bunker if they can. They're like, oh, you know, what if the big one comes in there, they're going to drop nuclear bombs and blah, blah, blah. I think that that's something that people that have money, like, I don't see the downside of it, right? I just want to point out, you're sitting on, why not? This story from Independent is from September of this year,
Starting point is 01:04:00 why tech billionaires are suddenly hoarding doomsday mega bunkers. Don't take the stripper pulls out. Okay. the event is coming. The event. They named it already. Indeed. Well, the event is a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers,
Starting point is 01:04:18 well, honestly, I think that it's a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, they have a different concept of why they're building them. You know, it's like, well, it could be a pandemic that I have to get, you know, a pandemic that's worse than COVID, or it could be a nuclear war. It could be the polls shift or what have you. and it doesn't really matter. I mean, I bought... It'd be a civil war.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yeah, it could be. Are you RSBed for the event? Part of the reason part of the reason why I bought my place in New Hampshire is because it's 50 acres and it's tucked away in the woods. It's not, my house isn't on the road. You can't accidentally show up on my front yard.
Starting point is 01:04:53 You know, it's hidden away. And I bought it because should something bad happen, I've got a place to go. And when COVID hit, when I was, you know, I was up on the hill in New Hampshire, my life didn't change at all. Yeah. You know, it was the same from one day to the next.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Okay, this is pretty epic. Look at this picture. This is another angle of the Atlas. What they do is they dig this whole thing out, place it, look at this. And then they bury it. And you get to live in there forever with no sun. I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of jealous.
Starting point is 01:05:27 They got such a sweet bugout spot, though. That is pretty cool. In fact, maybe it's just would be nice to have this as a house. No. Yeah, what do you mean? Nobody knows where you are. I live in the storage container. You have that.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's not your house. That's just your basement. You build the house on top of it. Oh, they do. Look. Take a look at this. There you go. It actually, oh, wait.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yeah, yeah, they build on top of it and it connects down into the underground bunker. Look at this, though. Come on. You got to just... The armory. Yeah, that's sick. No, no, the whole bunker is just literally an armory. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Let's go. I mean, it's sick. and if you have access to that kind of money, why not? What's the downside? The event is coming. Well, no, but this is the point I was making. The left argues that billionaires have all this money. No, they don't.
Starting point is 01:06:15 It's not liquid. They don't have this money. Bezos gets paid $83,000 salary, and then he gets, I think, like a million in benefits. When he wants to spend cash, he takes loans out. This means that it's not so much, and I'm not saying it's impossible or very difficult, but they're doing more than just, I got the cash lying around. No, they're taking action and liquidating assets to be able to have the cash to build these deep underground bunkers or whatever. And this one is not even an example of a particularly expensive one.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Like I'm talking, bro, they got like, there are stories of mountain like planes landing inside of mountains. No way. Oh, yeah. James Bond-esque. Yeah, you can do it super cheap. The Hasidics in Brooklyn did it. And they got in a bunch of trouble for it, but that's an economical option. You just dig under.
Starting point is 01:06:56 There was an underground network for a while in COVID, huh? Yeah, and they got in trouble for it. I was like, hey, they're just prepping. Like, what's wrong? What are these guys? It's kind of based, yeah. I'm credit for it. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 01:07:04 European mountain bunkers. Yeah, crazy. Military is building them in Europe, the European military. I said, I, if you have... Switzerland. If you have a bunker like that, it makes sense. Yeah, you get to stock it with your armory. There's like one big bug out shelter.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah, it's crazy. A lot of times, too. I mean, if you, but if you have something like that, whether it be a bunker for, you know, for the event or just a panic room, right? Someone breaks into your house. shove your family downstairs and lock the door, wait for the police to show up, you know? Now, what about this? Do you guys think this is true?
Starting point is 01:07:37 The U.S. spent $21 trillion to build secret underground dobsday bunkers for elites? This was on Tucker's show back in May, and we talked about it, the dums they're called, the deep underground military bases. I'm just saying, man, when we see an Aurora in Texas several times
Starting point is 01:07:53 in the past couple of years, you might be like, is it normal? And the truth is, we are much, we live shorter lives than the earth. you know, is old or whatever. So maybe these things happen. Aurora's happened. It's just not that often. So maybe we're overreacting.
Starting point is 01:08:08 But these people may be overreacting substantially more than we are if they're spending $21 trillion. Now maybe this lady right here is just crazy. No, it's legit. I mean, you have the Aurora Borealis like all over like the South. I mean, you have these wildfires everywhere, these earthquakes. I had a white DoorDash driver the other day. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Like things are getting like crazy. This is, you know, that reminds me of that 30 Rock episode. Do you guys see this one where it was about Occupy Wall Street? And Jack Doneggy, played by everyone's favorite, Alec Baldwin, gets mugged by a white guy in a button-up shirt. It's over. And he's like, we're done. We're at the bottom, sell everything.
Starting point is 01:08:45 He was like, you don't understand Lemon. He was wearing a button-up shirt. Yeah, you're at the bottom. So that's when you buy. If that ever happens to you, buy everything. It's funny how that show was like pretty offensive, but nobody cared because back then, and it was funny. and then within like four years of
Starting point is 01:09:01 actually while the show was still on the air everybody got super woke it's just like adjusted as it went on yeah I mean they they did a bunch of racist humor and everyone laughed it's like it's like the office the office could never air today yeah that's wild
Starting point is 01:09:13 yeah it's a shame well maybe today it could maybe today it could I mean we've we're breaking it open a bit bro have you been on Instagram lately oh my god dude so good holy all I can say is holy
Starting point is 01:09:26 what dude I open up Instagram and I'm like Wow. Yeah, they like, your average Instagram feed like Outflanks 4chan. Bro, I saw one video. I opened up my Instagram and it was an Android George Floyd buying KFC. And I was just like, this is cool. Do you not get Charlie Kirk? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Cyborg two yet. Yeah, I got them together. They're doing it. I'm getting high school pages. They'll make it like an Agartha high school page and judge if their teachers would make it in or not. And it's like the school assemblies right now are probably insane. They're probably doing like executions at the. these schools, like, it's insane what these kids are posting what their teachers.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah, the algorithm is crazy. And you know what happened was, like, every time I bring up that Instagram keeps recommending these weird, racist humor AI videos, to me, people go like, you realize the algorithm is based on what you click on. I'm like, yeah, I click on them all the time. Like, I watch every single one. They're hilarious. I like them.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I comment. There was one I saw where it was the Olympics, and it was a bunch of, it was like a 100-meter dash through showers, and it's like white people run through, and then, like, Asians run through, and then a bunch of Indian. and stop and get stuck in front of it and they're like panicking. And I was like, what the? It had like 100,000 likes. There was another one where it was at the Olympics and there was a ladder with a pole going up
Starting point is 01:10:40 to a fake roof with a smoke detector and there are two black women changing the smoke detector and it was like, first place in 27 seconds. And I'm just like, I can't believe Instagram is loaded with these videos. There was one where it was the, who's the guy who got stabbed in the chest by the Stingray? Steve Irwin. Steve Irwin. It's Steve Irwin being like, we're looking for the rare African sealing bird. And he goes into a black woman's house and the smoke checkers going, beep, beep.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I'm like, dude, how is Instagram allowing these videos? It's just the floodgates are done. It's a good dammit breach, yeah. I actually think this is a phenomenon that is why we're seeing this quote unquote rift on the right. Because, let me put it this way. Let's, let's, we'll give this one its own air time. So we got these videos popping up across Instagram that people would describe as like racist AI videos or racist humor or whatever. I think this shows the fact that these videos are allowed that the left is so desperately beaten, not gone forever, that there's no unified enemy culturally that the right is concerned about.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Movies are dropping these films studios like Disney got rid of their DEI department or whatever. Bud Light is cooked, Target. All of this stuff worked. and now you're allowed to like we can say retart again you know what I mean you're allowed to say these things and I think now
Starting point is 01:12:03 we had this period where the left was so entrenched institutionally what with like you couldn't you couldn't even say you supported Trump if you like Vivek Ramoswamy's story Vivek if you didn't put a black
Starting point is 01:12:14 square in your Instagram profile they came for you that's how insane it was that resulted in people like me and staunch conservatives sitting down together and being like hey we got a problem
Starting point is 01:12:23 this also resulted in people who are pro Israel and anti-Israel sitting down and saying, hey, look at that problem. But what happens when that problem is gone? These same people are at the table and they go, who now that we've solved that problem, let's get to the next most serious problem. That is, we should stop funding Israel. And the other guy goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. What do you mean? I was never on board with that. I'm for funding Israel. And now you're seeing these riffs emerge on the right because there's there's nothing else to be kind of for these individual ideological factions,
Starting point is 01:12:52 what is left to defeat? But their next most pressing path. And so you're seeing the libertarians. Largely, I think the right is fracturing on interventionist and anti-interventionist, neoconservative versus new right or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, I mean, I think it's really a test to how unifying Charlie Kirk was because he kept everyone focused. He was saying, okay, yes, we won. We had a good victory in the election.
Starting point is 01:13:16 But we're not at the point yet where we can start, like, hashing these things out and relitigating some of these issues. We still have a lot of work to do. And he kind of was at unifying. And for a lot of other people in the media space, he was kind of a tastemaker, these sorts of things. Once he was gone, a lot of people just lost focus right away. And they forget that's like, hey, Trump still is three years. He has a lot of work to do.
Starting point is 01:13:36 It's going to take time to do a lot of these things. And people instead just went for engagement. It went every which way. Regardless, people lost focus right away. I think that's the primary issue is. I mean, some of it's just that, like, we have an incredibly unique political coalition that has elected Donald Trump, right? And it's unlike anything I think we've seen in the past couple decades. I think the last time you saw a true like middle America recognition or like class that was represented was when Pat Buchanan was really running, right, in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:14:09 And I think that that draws in different debates. And I think, you know, when people heard America first in 2015 when Donald Trump was running, they thought it meant America first, right? And I think, you know, Codavilla was known for always saying that the primary concern of the statesmen. should be his own nation, right? Especially in times of revolution, right? Like, international affairs should be subordinate to the domestic affairs. But I think what you're saying about this coalition was true.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I just saw a clip where Anna Kasparian said she's been watching Candace Owens. And I'm kind of like, yeah, did you see that clip that's like... I don't know who she is. Who is Anna? The Young Turks. Oh, okay. Yeah. And so it's like, oh, you know, something's happening here politically.
Starting point is 01:14:52 And I'm wondering if there's like a reorienting. now. I mean, with obviously the Heritage Foundation and the Tucker thing and then the Tucker, Candace, turning point, like, there is a rift that is very obvious to everybody. These debates are happening. People are attacking
Starting point is 01:15:08 Tucker for interviewing Nick. And the reason why I defend Tucker on this one is crazy, because we've interviewed communists who have come on and advocated for Stalin-esque or like Maoist. They'll straight up call themselves revolutionaries, and revolutions are not peaceful. They're not talking about peaceful change in
Starting point is 01:15:23 in government. Right. The point is, there's no outrage when I debate a Maoist, but they lose their mind when Nick, it goes on an interview
Starting point is 01:15:31 with Tucker Carlson. And it's just like, Tucker can talk with whoever he wants and he can agree with whatever he wants. Like, what is, what is this policing, this ideological policing that is now occurring?
Starting point is 01:15:41 And I think we are seeing, it's what I described. Now that the shared enemy is routed, Democrats aren't gone forever. They're going further left. The question now is, who are we going to allow in our movement?
Starting point is 01:15:53 And that means you're going to see certain factions be like, we don't want you here. Because, you know, I think it's fair to say people have different moral worldviews. You're not wrong to believe in your moral worldview. And you don't want to share space with someone of an opposing moral worldview. And now that there's the greater villain is defeated, largely, they're now going to say, why am I sharing space with this person I disagree with? And it feels like with the Tucker riff that was a day or two ago where Trump said he can have everybody wants it's his show like I don't I don't it's whatever I think that like kind of settled that
Starting point is 01:16:26 debate pretty much entirely like I think um through sheer um what is it cult of personality alone the president was able to wrangle all these disparate factions on the right and I don't think there's another figure on the right post Trump who will be able to do so Trump was being able to bring in you know these so-called neocons from the past I don't think it was Trump you don't think I think it was totally Trump the anti-immigrant people the Zionists of course Charlie Kirk. You think it was Charlie Kirk? I think it was Charles. Okay. Well, I think it's not a surprise that now that Charlie's not with us anymore, we are starting to see the infighting, the bubbling up, even Trump yelling at Marjorie Taylor Green. I mean, I think Charlie was a negotiator and a leader, and he brought people together, and he helped, he was diplomacy between these various factions. And without him, everyone's going in various, in different directions. I do think, Here's what I agree with you on, Alon. Donald Trump, as a character,
Starting point is 01:17:26 there are all these different factions on the right that look up at Trump and say, here's what I agree with. And so that creates a sort of de facto, we're all here, we all agree we like Trump. But I believe Charlie was the one at the ground level going between each group and saying, what do you need?
Starting point is 01:17:41 What can I do for you, stick together? And without him, it's being ripped apart and people are going at each other's throats. Sure, I'm just thinking of all these different factions, too. like traditionalists, pro-life people with, you know, people who would otherwise disagree with a lot of the things he does or says, willing to look past that and get on board. I don't know if somebody like a J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio would be able to achieve that in the future, especially when we're seeing more of these cracks in the Republican Coalition. So, I mean, I feel like we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about it a couple of weeks ago. There was a big uproar on the right from Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 01:18:16 And then Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, put out a statement. statement on Twitter defending Tucker and saying people who are calling him anti-Semitic were wrong and that he stands with Tucker firmly and strongly. There's a big uproar to that. You were, of course, the chief of staff at the time and defended and supported Mr. Robert's statement at the time. They kind of folded to that backlash. It led to a shake-up at the Heritage Foundation that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Included you. Could you tell us a little bit more about what their thinking was behind the scenes? and if they're feeling like they're caving to so-called cancel culture. I mean, I think Kevin has explained himself, and I don't think I need to explain anything for Dr. Roberts, right? I think he's a good man who, you know, I don't think he's necessarily apologized for the statement. I think he stood by the fact that we should not engage in cancel culture.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I mean, who's to tell a guy like Tim who we can and can't have on a show like this, right? Like, that's not our role. And I think, you know, one of the things that was occurring in, you know, Kevin talked about this on Dana Loche, I think the day after he put out the statement was, there are people behind the scenes that are trying to do that, that are trying to tell people who you can and cannot platform, right, and try to police speech. I mean, maybe that post-World War II liberalism sentiment, like, prevails in some circles, but, like, those of us who are, like, actually conservatives and in trying to conserve the ideals
Starting point is 01:19:44 of the American founding, like, one of those is primarily free speech. And when there's bad ideas, you hash them out and you push them out. point out what's bad about them and then you point out what's good, right? And you redirect people towards what's correct. And I think, you know, President Trump put that in his own way the other night. I think Tate was recognizing that. I mean, President Trump said himself, why would I tell Tucker Carlson who he can or can't have on a show? And I mean, you know, ironically enough, you want to talk about who's on people's shows. I mean, nobody was freaking out when Patrick Bet David had Nick Fuentes on a show like a month before, right? That doesn't
Starting point is 01:20:17 mean that like everyone's endorsing Nick Fuentes' ideas. Just to play double. I mean. The level's advocate here, the thing about Tucker Carlson is that I know he can be a great journalist when he chooses to do so, but for some reason he chooses to pick and choose who he uses kids gloves with. So, for example, when he was going at Ted Cruz, he made sure to have every question set up and ready to go. Some people would argue that he threw a lot of softballs to Nick and was using this opportunity to kind of hedge around his edges. And could the difference be senator versus random internet guy? Sure. I think he's more than a random internet guy. Just have you heard that? And what do you think of somebody arguing things like that?
Starting point is 01:20:51 Have I heard that people think he put on kids gloves? Yeah, I mean, I think that's plainly, like, thrown out into the internet ether, and that's a conversation. I think, you know, what Tim's saying, Ted Cruz is a presidential candidate. Tucker Carlson was interviewing some random internet guy with an internet following. There's no reason to make excuses or arguments for why Tucker did what he did or didn't do, right? All of that's up to Tucker, right? And Tucker at the end of the day, it's his show, how he performs it and how he performs it, and how he, does it, like either his viewership will decline or it will increase based upon what he does.
Starting point is 01:21:23 And like, who am I, some random guy in America to be like, Tucker, don't do that, right? Like, he's not going to care what I think. And he doesn't need to care what I think, right? If I don't want to watch it, I'm not going to watch it. Yeah, with infighting like this, do you think the MAGA coalition is sustainable? I think it has to be. I think if not, then you lose 28 and you go to the Gulloch. You lose 26.
Starting point is 01:21:42 And I think there's a possibility of it. I do think the higher probability is that as the midterms come closer, everybody starts hyper-focusing. What's going to happen is Democrats will start campaigning. They're going to start saying crazy things. The focus in the news cycle will be Democrat promises insane thing. They have no power to offer. And then it doesn't matter if you're pro or anti-Israel. Everyone's focus is going to be that's nuts and this will bring the right together again. However, it doesn't bode well for 28, depending on what Vance has to offer and what his position is going to be because you are going to get these people who are like, well, Vance, are you pro-Israel? And Tucker is a prominent anti-Zionist
Starting point is 01:22:19 He's critical of Israel, and he's got a big following. So if JD Vance comes out and says, we're for Israel, Tucker then says, I'm not, I'm not voting for you. Or I'm not interested. And then his audience says, no, and you lose the voters you need to win. I think you're going to lose the American interest if everything we do is debate foreign policy, right? Like, the American people are purely focused on an America first agenda. They want to see an agenda, particularly Gen Z, who has promised a world that they're just not seeing around them, right?
Starting point is 01:22:50 Promised upward mobility, promise that if they go to college and get an expensive education that they would have a high paying job and a place where they want to live and raise their family and they could go buy a beautiful home with a white picket fence and have that, you know, stereotypical dog and three kids running around in the front yard, right? That's not accessible to people and people are sick and tired of hearing all about foreign affairs, foreign relations, and they just want to hear about how can you make America better. They want mass deportations. They don't want half measures.
Starting point is 01:23:17 They want to stop seeing, you know, blue-collar workers undermined by H-1B workers. This is interesting. Young Gen Z, 18-21, favor Republicans. Older Gen Z, 22 to 29, are more democratic. Isn't it crazy that Gen Z's 29 years old? Well, and what's more remarkable is where that split is is basically COVID. Yes. So you have the post-COVID zoomers, pre-COVID zoomers.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Pre-COVID zoomers are like an extension of millennials, effectively. It's the post-COVID zoomers are like the really base, supposedly. where with post-COVID zoomers, they're quite literally either trans analogs effectively or they're literally like basically groipers. Like there's not much in between.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Maybe not that, but like... I think there's this increasingly right winged. There's this narrative going around that like the GOP has a Nazi problem. Like that's absurd.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Oral Lua just tweeted that today. Yeah. I mean, like how absurd of an argument is that? I mean, UGov, it was like last November did polling on that question. of like what is the American perspective on Hitler and 1% of Americans literally 1% of Americans
Starting point is 01:24:21 said that they thought good things about Hitler. And that was just the Grypers. It is such a small fraction of people that even care about this. You understand though that like... I was using that by the way as a joke to say right wing. Circles back to though, it's like the person who Tucker was interviewing, Nick Fontez has said good things about Hitler though
Starting point is 01:24:37 and spoken of him and a positive light and Tucker used kids gloves when asking him about that stuff he chose not to at all. So I guess the greater point would be while you're saying that it's only 1% of the... population saying this, this guy is in an interview with Tucker where Tucker has nothing to say about it. And I think one of the greater, the bigger issue here becomes that if Fuentes becomes the face of the Republican Party, then the Republicans aren't going to win because this guy is unpalatable
Starting point is 01:24:58 to a general electorate beyond, you know, the online right, frankly, and maybe small parts of the electorate, but definitely not to a general electorate in my estimation. So I think that's the like, I don't know, is it truly 1% because the internet would have me thinking something different unless I'm, I don't know, being... I mean, that's the problem is that like, it's the internet. of this conversation is framed within the internet. I think there's millions of Americans. Yeah, I'm on the internet right now, though. I'm not going to say I love Hitler. Like, and I don't think that he was a bad guy and that I look up to him and I think Stalin were great guys, even though we're on the internet, it's like, yeah, I think like a lot of Zoomers, IRL, like even if their politics, you know, are pretty far to the left,
Starting point is 01:25:34 pretty far to the right, like they code very normally. There's still like a lot of normal kids. Like, like you're saying, um, was it Rod Dreher? He was talking about the Zoomer staffing in DC? He's like, he said, I estimate 30 to 40% are groipers. And I think he's using that as an analog. I think they're trying to set this trap up and they're trying to poison the well advance where they're trying to say anyone that is to the right of like Ted Cruz as a groiper. And so like that's the trap that was being set up.
Starting point is 01:25:58 And Roger is great or whatever. But I'm just saying I don't think that 30 to 40% are like tuning into Nick Fuentes every night. I think they're just people that are disaffected right wingers that are just kind of frustrated at the way things are moving. And so they want to see more. And they get labeled groipers. I don't think that's entirely true. That's what I was saying earlier.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I was like to the right there are grueys. I was just saying. Ryan, you were on the hill before. What do you make of that estimate of 30 to 40%? I've never met anyone that calls themselves a groper. Exactly. Like, never. Like, it's a purely internet term.
Starting point is 01:26:25 It's called hiding your power level. You don't understand. Oh, hiding your power level. That's right. I don't understand. Well, no, I just see that. And I'm just so suspicious. I'm like, you can see it.
Starting point is 01:26:34 That's what they're going to try to do. Is they're going to do what they do with the alt right? Or they're going to use that as like a drag net for 28 when Vance is running. and they're going to say, I think this is the neocon play, and they're going to try and drag it. This is the woke right play. This is what they say woke right is. It's a dragna.
Starting point is 01:26:47 And it's, it's, they are proudly declaring that woke right means the same thing as alt-right. It's a catch-all term to excise people from the right. Yep. Yeah. So, I mean, you're just seeing the pints are set up right now. And young people are, yeah, again, they've grown up in a world where it's like, why would you, if you're a centrist, that means you have some degree of loyalty to the system, some degree of wanting to uphold it.
Starting point is 01:27:11 And if you're like, again, like a post-COVID zoomer, why would you be a centrist? Like what on earth has this system done to reward you in any way whatsoever? It's a total joke. So it's like, yeah, of course people are increasingly conservative, increasingly leftist. It's like, yeah. At least the people that are on the far left, they're also acknowledging something's wrong. Someone, like, if you're genuinely interested in the Gen Z debate and like the direction that our nation is heading, I mean, Mark Mitchell has been doing a lot of interesting polling and
Starting point is 01:27:38 and just kind of, you know, message testing with Gen Z on, like, how they feel about these things. And one thing that's really notable is, you know, Gen Z is not as concerned about, like, the policy debate and the press release and, like, the campaign sloganeering. Like, they care about outcomes. And that's, like, when it comes to, like, the Epstein file conversation, like, we were talking about earlier, right? Like, the problem that comes with, like, after this and, like, why it's a continual side show is because there has to be accountability if there are problems, right? And the American people just aren't used to seeing accountability from, like, the governing party right now. And Gen Z says, okay, we just imported, like, 20 million illegal immigrants during the Biden administration. Like, who knows, the actual number, right?
Starting point is 01:28:22 Like, the actual number is not going to be reported. But how many non-citizens do we have here that were probably on the terror watch list, right? Like, how many, you know, PRC guys, like, slipped through and are now, you know, plotting an attack of some sort, right? You hear about these things all the time, but like, why aren't we engaging in a full-on mass deportation effort? That's what people want. You know, I don't think it's a coincidence that the Republican Congress people who have gone soft on immigration are the same Congress people who pushed the vote for the Epstein files. That is Thomas Massey and, again, Marjorie Taylor Green, have softened up their tones a lot on mass deportations. And I don't think it's a coincidence.
Starting point is 01:28:58 What does Mass said about it? Massey says that it's not like one of his big goals. And like, is that? And he supports H-1B visas. Not enough for me. And then Marjorie Taylor Green said like, oh, it's impractable for businesses, for big businesses to get rid of all these illegal immigrants. And she recently did a media tour angling to that effect.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I thought she was critical of Trump's H-1Bs. She doesn't think that we should be deporting as many people. She doesn't think we'll be able to deport all the illegal immigrants and Massey supports H-1B visas. Really? She doesn't think that we will be able to? I'll find the direct quote. That we should. I'll find the quote for me.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I feel like I've heard the opposite. Yeah, right. And I think they're, no, because they're counter signal. Trump came out and said, we're going to give H-1Bs and we're going to do Chinese visas. And Marjorie was like, no. I thought that she took the other. I thought that's what Trump got mad at her. He was like, oh, you know, she's texting me about this.
Starting point is 01:29:47 What did he said? She keeps calling me. And then Marjorie was like, no, I texted him about it. One thing. And it's like regardless of the GOP with young right-wing guys, the priority is immigration. That's like what we see. That's what's affecting us directly. And a lot of people, like, will come onto the show or they'll go into the zeitgeist in general.
Starting point is 01:30:02 And they're like, the definite. it's the biggest issue. And it's like, I get that, but it's, that's not how you, like, win. I mean, the America Party, that was the whole idea was, like, worry about money. And it's like, dude, we're, like, Costco's a disaster. I was, I was thinking about our costs here. And, you know, I started to look into it and I realized that if I replaced, you know, Phil, Elad and Tate with H-1Bs from India, the show would be a lot cheaper to run. And Serge, of course. And it would be a very, very interesting political show that, you know, I think would be worth pursuing.
Starting point is 01:30:32 That's right for crime. We actually had a joke about this a few years ago where we wanted to open. Actually, we can do this with AI now. The only problem, you know what really is mess about the AI stuff like SORA is I'm Tim Poole and I own the rights to this. And when I go to Sora and say like, make an episode of IRL, like I put a video in of me. It's like, this is copyright protected. It won't let me do it.
Starting point is 01:30:53 And I'm like, it's me. It's me. But, you know, so. I get the same thing when it comes to all that remains of music. Right. Yeah. It's like, I own it. So the recent comments I was referring to with Marjorie Taylor Green was her
Starting point is 01:31:04 criticizing the ways that the immigration raids are going. She's saying that there needs to be a more humane way to conduct ice raids, was her criticism. Okay, well, that's different than saying that she doesn't support deportations. There was more. Because, to be honest with you, I mean, people might say the same thing about me while I don't agree with her. I do think that the optics of the ice raids can end up causing problems for actually deporting people because you get squishy, left-leaning liberal women.
Starting point is 01:31:33 You don't get out there and scream and yell because it looks like you're hurting. I also have this quote about Marjorie Tulligan and the Rift, talking about how the Epstein ripped in it. She said, quote, this has been one of the most destructive things to MAGA is watching the man we supported early on three elections. Oppose the bill, she told reporters, watching this actually turn into a fight and has ripped Mega part
Starting point is 01:31:54 and a lot of L'EGai who has no idea what he's talking about. The last part I made up just so you guys are aware. Okay, so she also said as a business owner in the construction industry that we need to be realists about labor and create a smarter plan in the business industry and the labor and the construction industry around immigration.
Starting point is 01:32:10 So she's virtue signaling that we're trying too aggressively to deport illegal immigrants from construction sites in particular. She came up in the construction business. Her family has a lot of construction business. Is it against the rules of YouTube for me to say we should deport Elad?
Starting point is 01:32:24 Why would you want to deport me, Tim? Back to Israel. Just for the comedy. I'm from Long Island, baby. Just for the lulls. I'm from Long Island. I think I'm just as American. is apple pie.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Send you back in New York. You hear Staten Island wants to secede from New York? Sure, nobody gives a crap about Staten Island. Agreed. So they should be able to secede from New York. Nag about it. They don't want to be part of Kami Mamdani's utopia. Yeah, you can talk about Staten Island.
Starting point is 01:32:47 You lose the impractual jokers and you'll be regretting that. All of this rhetoric about deporting me and heritage Americans and what it means to be an American, it makes me first in the camp if we build them? I don't know. What is an American? What makes somebody an American citizen, Tim's here talking about deporting me? I thought he was hiding me in the attic. shit hit the fan. I guess I'm first
Starting point is 01:33:05 in the chambers. People like to say, oh, I'm first in the gulag. No, no, no, no. I'm seriously you'll be like near the end. And they're saying Ryan is probably going to be the first one to take me. You misunderstand a lot. That's what I'm reading about him. When it hits the fan, I'm going to be sitting with Tate going, wait for the cream. You're going to be sitting there with a stone cold look on your face.
Starting point is 01:33:25 No, no, everybody knows I really pull the strings here. We'll be one of the last. We love you so much. When we start the Heritage American Reeducation Camp, she'll be like at the end. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry a lot. Under the floorboards. Okay, good. And then there'll be more of the scene where you're looking up at the feet
Starting point is 01:33:38 and then you can run through the fields, you know. We'll make sure you get away. All right. Does it deval everything, by the way? I'm saying we'll protect our friend. We're going to protect our friend. That's right. It's safe under the floorboards.
Starting point is 01:33:48 There's a plug-out shelter down there. What we'll do is we're going to shave his mustache and head and then teach him how to speak with a southern accent and then, you know. Although, to be fair, Sean did think you were Indian. You know, that's the first time I got that. Let's get into Sean. All right, everybody. We're going to go to your chats and Rumble Rants.
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Starting point is 01:36:14 Unity is everything if we're going to win. And when you join, I'll say this, some people have actually gotten married. Met each other in the Discord. Can't guarantee it, but support our work at timcast.com. All right, let's see what y'all have to say. We got some great questions here. Kremit says, Phil, do you think James Lindsay will regret his lies and commie-style propaganda if he helps Dems get back in power? He's trying to balance a scale with the fate of the country on the line, reckless. I have no idea or no claim to what James Lindsay is thinking nowadays. Well, I'm a Marxist plant, apparently.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Yeah, it's silly. And then he denied he said it. It's the weird, it's like, it's psycho babble. Yeah, I don't know. I never said that. And I'm like, here's a screenshot of him. Look, I am a Marxist. He said possibly a plant, Marxist's always lie or something like that.
Starting point is 01:36:59 I still think that Jim has done a lot of important work in the past. And I'm very, very thankful that he had a time where he was, you know, being very vocal about the left and stuff. I do think that his, his estimations now are off base. I think he's not sure why he's behaving the way that he is. It's pretty simple, actually. I think he's anti-Israel. So, but you laugh. But here's what's funny.
Starting point is 01:37:31 You can't pinpoint what he's doing. It seems incoherent, right? To a degree, yeah. His track record is infiltrating organizations, utilize, create arguments that make them look like idiots and then trick them into publishing them. He has done this over and over again. It is his claim to fame.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Now, he is seemingly aligned with the pro-Israel side saying the stupidest garbable. nonsense imaginable. He called Mary Morgan a woke right. Mary talks about dating and pop culture. It's just incoherent psycho babble. When you, Phil, who've watched him are saying, I don't understand what he's saying. I think it's clear to say the simple solution is a man who intentionally infiltrates groups to present a fake argument that makes them look bad is probably doing the same thing right now. Because the pro-Israel side, like when you look at Constantine Kyson and Seth Dillon, And they're saying, woke right means people who believe that Jews are oppressing them.
Starting point is 01:38:28 You're like, I understand the point you're making. When James Lindsay comes out and then says, I should be in charge of the national movement and conservatives are bad and Mary is woke right, you go, this guy seems insane. These people that are claiming woke right are nuts. And that's basically been what he's doing. He's doing effectively the same thing he did to academia, but to the neo-con pro-Israel conservative. Like, right. I think he's describing like traditionalists
Starting point is 01:38:55 as that like well look I think if you look at what you don't want him on your side a lot that's the point I think he's gatekeeping yeah
Starting point is 01:39:03 I think well I think maybe maybe gatekeeping is kind of accurate I think that he is looking at the pendulum that has swung to the right and he still considers himself a liberal
Starting point is 01:39:14 and he thinks that too much influence from the right will be a bad thing for liberalism in the United States and I think that he doesn't want to see liberalism fall out of favor I think that he want he still thinks that liberalism is the proper political ideology agreed in the and liberals are anti-Israel uh well I mean it
Starting point is 01:39:36 it depends on so now so when I think when I see liberal I think he's I think he's talking about what would what you would call a classical a traditional liberal who was like wasn't it like a polyamorous relationship or something is now all of a sudden a lined with neocons? I don't believe it. I think if you put him in a neocon in a room 15 years ago, they'd be arguing the whole time. So it's surprising now that once again, the guy's famous for infiltrating groups is aligning himself with neo-conservative pro-Israel groups and making them look like they're retarded. I think it's just like, guys, this is what he does. Why are you, why are you acting like all of a sudden he's just incoherent? The man historically has been,
Starting point is 01:40:14 he infiltrates the left, makes them publish an incoherent argument, and then everyone makes fun of them for saying something dumb. And now he's got neocons doing it, and everyone's like, he's serious. I'm like, no, he's just anti-Israel. And that's fine. He's allowed to be. Let's read some more superchats.
Starting point is 01:40:29 All right. I identify as tax exempts as do. Does the Epstein files release include the files from the intelligence agencies? I believe it's technically supposed to. Whether it will, that's another question. So a couple of things on those Epstein files that are being released.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I believe that they are different judiciaries in New York in Florida that have their own, associated Epstein files that will not be included in this legislative Epstein file drop. There's also the Jeffrey Epstein estate that has separate documents. So I suspect, again, we will be seeing a drip of more Epstein info in the future. And this is not the end of it. It'll never be the end of it. All right. Sinek says, if redactions can only be for national security, if whatever they releases any redactions, that is essentially confirmed this was some CIA
Starting point is 01:41:16 Mossad blackmail scandal. And our government allowed children to be. abused. That is a huge leap. For all we know, it could be their aliens and they're redacting it because aliens were kidnapping kids. I mean, I think it's your scenario is more likely, but if there are redactions for national security, it could be because there's a name of an agent that's passively mentioned because they provided some evidence in the file. So put it this way. They could say, I spoke with agent redacted about information that provided from a witness who had at one point been working with an associate of Epstein. that doesn't mean the redaction proves the intelligent agent was involved.
Starting point is 01:41:53 So there's likely going to be redactions in that regard. It's not a guarantee you. All right. Rager says, I firmly think he says McGee. He puts emphasis on the E part, not on the P like usually would. Plus, she's skinny and Trump isn't blind. It looks like McGee's more fun. Yeah, I mean, what was her name?
Starting point is 01:42:13 Her name was Lucy, was Catherine Lucy. Why would he say McGee? And people are claiming it's Peggy. I'm like, no, her name is Catherine. I'm going with piggy. I'm going. Yeah, piggy is hilarious. Long on piggy.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Is anyone at this point not going to vote for Trump because he called a woman Piggy? No. I don't think it matters. One guy's one guy's a quote. He'll never be on the ballot. This is the last straw. That's it. Poppins patches says Tim often talks about how bad and brain dead kids' shows are.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And he's absolutely right, but I would encourage you and your wife sample Bluey. It is a very good exception to the rule pro-family. My child will not be watching anthropomorphized animals. amorphized animals. That's not, that's, no, she's going to watch 90-day fiancee and the five. Don't forget the view. No. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:43:00 My daughter literally watches only 90-day fiancee and the five. No way. Okay, so when my wife is watching TV, she watches 90-day fiancé. I call it Married to Strangers. And then when I come in, I turn the five on. And so she's not really watching, but this is what's on the TV. Yeah, yeah. We're not going to do any kid's content.
Starting point is 01:43:18 this psychobabble hallucinogenic DMT trip cartoon stuff for kids is nuts and a bad idea and that's why we got a bunch of trans furries running around I'm not joking not good for your kids I like that theory
Starting point is 01:43:32 I think it's true I think I think children are trying to emulate and create an identity and they're looking to people around them and parents put them in front of TVs or tablets where all of the interaction communication is coming from anthropomorphized animals and then we get the
Starting point is 01:43:48 when they get older, furries aren't dressing like animals. They're dressing like cartoon animals. They identify as a cartoon animal. And I think obvious people go, Tim, not everybody does that. Of course not everybody. Some are affected by it. Some aren't. That's just it.
Starting point is 01:44:02 I think that's true. None of that stuff is bad for kids. Bad for kids. All right, let's grab some more super chats. Again, smash that like button. What do we got? Wyatt Caldenberg says after JFK's death, the Dems got a huge sympathy vote.
Starting point is 01:44:15 The neocons falsely blamed the 1964 election on Barry Goldwater and the populist right and purged the right. We're in the middle of another purge. Well, okay. It was a long time ago. I wouldn't know. Arsona says Muslim Americans who backed Trump three times and rallied others. This is normal politics.
Starting point is 01:44:32 People return when they need you. Join any fight only if it aligns with what you believe and will make America better. This is what Democrats are doing. The reason why they're attacking white people is because they're basically like, hey, you know that group of white people? How do I get Latinos? is, you know, Muslims, Asians, black people to come together, what do I offer them? White people bad.
Starting point is 01:44:54 None of you like white people? Okay, good. That's the offer. That's why left has gone that route. Because they're trying to build a coalition of various minorities, and the only thing you can offer them as a lowest common denominator is another group to hate. And then I guess the left argues that the right is arguing minorities as a whole or whatever. All right, that one gamer says there's more drugs coming from Mexico and Colombia than Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Mexico is asking for help from the U.S. Russia, et cetera, to fight cartels, thoughts on actually doing good instead of another Iraqi oil run. Did you guys see that the Mexican president was attacking a senator who said that the intervention from Trump would be good? And she said this is, what she called, treason or something? That a senator was calling for a foreign intervention into their own country. Yeah, not to mention she had like the auspice around her election was weird. She got in. There was like tons of political assassinations leading up to her, you know, win.
Starting point is 01:45:43 And yeah, the environment in Mexico was crying out, I think, for some. sort of intervention, I would say. Monroe Doctrine, that's our neighborhood. If you've got, what was that? Monroe 2.0. Yeah, if, look, if you've got a narco government at your southern border that continues to funnel in people and drugs and stuff, it is a national security threat. I think the thing that the super chatter was hinting on, though, is that the drug problem
Starting point is 01:46:12 mostly isn't coming from Venezuela, although Venezuela may be sending some drugs, but the administration is having a disproportionate response to that. I know one of their reasons for attacking all these drug boats have been the drug issue, allegedly, but many other people think that they're just trying to overthrow and apply pressure to the Maduro regime, which they consistently call illegitimate and say that he is, yeah, illegitimate and narco-dictator, narco-terrorist. It's also justified. It's in our neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:46:37 They cause a lot of problems. I mean, like, there's so many documentaries, like, exposing these CCP camps that are in Venezuela, and they train these people to come up through. Like, you shut that down. that's going to alleviate a lot of these illegal immigration problems because they, again, Venezuela aids a lot of these caravans that come in. Granted, the Dary and Gap's been like the crossings across the Dary and Gap is plummeted, which is remarkable.
Starting point is 01:46:58 I totally agree that Venezuela requires some intervention, but I just think it's fascinating because the people who would usually bitch about neocons are still supportive of us being involved in Venezuela, which again, by the way, I am fully supportive of. There's nuance there, though, right? Let's get into it. It's about primacy and our. our hemisphere, right? Between 2021 and 23, more Americans died from opioids than World War I,
Starting point is 01:47:25 Korea, and Vietnam. Correct, but we're not getting venous. The heroin and fentanyl is mostly not coming from Venezuela. It's coming from Colombia and Mexico. So when it comes to Venezuela in particular, this isn't particularly about drugs. Most of the drugs that are coming into this country via the southern border are not coming from Venezuela. Sure. China. China to Colombia, to Mexico. China to Mexico, but... But again, the point is, like, they're hitting drug traffickers on boats in the ocean. Like, that's what they're doing. They're not going and, like, ransacking the capital of Venezuela. And Venezuela is an outpost. Well, it's also, no, one of the big reasons that we would invade Venezuela or are encouraging them to overthrow the Maduro regime is about oil. It's totally about oil.
Starting point is 01:48:05 And the markets, the global commodity of oil, and trying to discourage Russian oil from exporting further, if we could decrease the price of oil because they have the biggest reserves in the Southern atmosphere. The geopolitical incentive is way stronger than the resource incentive.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Like there's no question about that. It's like if it was about oil we would have invaded plenty of countries. We would have been a long time. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Well, I think we have been before. So. We would have. We had been and we should have never left. Obama would have if it was just oil.
Starting point is 01:48:32 But let's, and things have, I don't think people realize that, you know, what, 12 years ago, Venezuela was US visa on entry. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:48:40 The tensions were not this crazy. You could just show up. You didn't need a visa. You could literally just walk to the border, be like, hi, and they'd be like, welcome in. Yeah. But it was getting crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:48 And a neocon is someone like obsessed with Iran. You're on neighborhoods. All right. Okay. We got Marine 98. Marine 98 says, didn't the judge dictate that the DOJ could only release certain portions of the Epstein files? How is that going to work with Congress pass and release everything? A judge is going to say that Trump can't release the files, the Congress approved.
Starting point is 01:49:05 That's interesting because Congress should have the final say. But a judge is supposed to provide a check. So one theory is that Trump is saying fine, release it because he knows the judges are going to be like, we won't let this come out. And then Trump takes the heat up himself by being like, I said to release it and we all voted for it. And then a judge blocked it. Don't look at me. All right. We got Mike Londikos. He says, I feel that TPSA are upset with your comments because they did have something to do with Kirk's death. It's called a guilty conscience. I don't think that's the case. You had something to do with it? No, they're saying TPSA did.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Oh, okay. They're saying that comments is saying that the reason turning points mad at me is because they were involved. I don't think that's true. There was a video, people keep sending me, where it's a guy going over turning points in 990 forms. And this is why I'm sorry, I can't stand conspiracy videos. So this guy goes, the filings for this year are missing. They're not missing. It's unavailable. There's a difference.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Missing would imply that they should be there and they're not. Or that it implies this is strange, missing. What's going on? And unavailable could just mean that they filed in October. It's been about one month and not yet been posted in these networks. There is an interesting point that these videos have been bringing up. A bunch of podcasts are popping up about their 990s because the theory, I think this largely stems from Candice saying that Charlie wanted a Doge-style audit a week before that he was murdered. And now their tax filings didn't come in in October or something.
Starting point is 01:50:41 For the first time, this is what one of the arguments is, for the first time they, every year they filed four 990 forms, non-profit tax forms, May 15th. This year they missed it. So it was an October extension that's not yet in. He goes, they're missing. And I'm like, no, they're just not yet available. We don't know what that means. But I thought I can't stand.
Starting point is 01:51:01 And then he goes, Charlie said he wanted a Doge style audit. But Tyler Bowers said that they do an audit every year. So he's saying they're not going to do it. And they're defying Charlie's wishes. And I'm like, no. No, he literally didn't say that. He said, they do the audit. it every year. And so that's why I'm like, guys, there are some interesting questions about why
Starting point is 01:51:20 these various turning point entities were funneling money through each other. One of the things people brought up is that I don't know if this is true or not, but one of the arguments is that they created, there's turning point, turning point action, turning point endowment, and America's turning point. And they were moving money between them. Some of this is totally legit normal. But there's one of these podcasts saying Charlie was getting a salary from each of them around a quarter million to $300,000, meaning that if you looked at the 990 filing for TPSA, you'd see Charlie getting $300,000 because you didn't know these other entities existed, but if you looked at him, you'd see Charlie was actually making over a million.
Starting point is 01:51:55 I don't know if that's true, and I don't know what the point is that they're bringing it up to insinuate about Charlie, but I certainly think he deserved to get paid from his own companies. But as to the greater point, we didn't talk about it, and we'll talk a little bit about it in the uncensored portion of the show, but the latest update, because I'm not trying to be big on drama, but we were not invited back to Amfest. And so there was some, I guess, back and forth drama, whatever you'd want to call it. And then ultimately, I decided I had to pull the trigger on what our plans were for the end of the year. And so I was going to make a video explaining that we weren't invited. They have since said, no, like, please, we want you to come. And they're trying to
Starting point is 01:52:34 get us to come. There's a lot more details involved in us. I think, in all likely, we're not going to be there. But I do want to be fair and just mention that many people have reached out to me saying that they're clearing space for us. They're going to move speakers. The long story short is there's a lot to the story. I was told that I'd made hurtful comments, so they weren't going to have us back. Whatever those comments were I don't know. I mean, I have a general idea, but I don't think that makes sense that they were hurtful. And then they booked people in the slot we were going to have, so we weren't coming. And then only recently decided maybe we should move these speakers and reopen the slot. But I'm like, this is weird. This is crazy. I can't do
Starting point is 01:53:12 this. And we're less than a month out. There's not going to be hotels. I can't spend 20 grand and late. Like we've tried really hard. And now I think the response we're getting in terms of no, no, we'll have you there is largely due to potential negativity around the event and why we weren't invited. And I was asked by many people not to talk about it when the issue had come up that we weren't yet invited. And I was told constantly just wait, just wait, just wait, until it's less than a month away. And that was explicitly told, well, you know, we weren't planning on having you back because you made hurtful comments and I'm like, okay, guys, just tell me that and I'm gone. I think they didn't want me to do a video and be like, hey, guys, what's happening?
Starting point is 01:53:49 We're not going to be there. I know that we promoted the event and don't be able to buy tickets, but we're not there. I'll go to greater detail in the uncensored portion of the show, so I'll say that there because I'm not trying to do a big drama thing. The reason I did the video is because I thought it was important that as we had promoted the event, us not being there was important for anybody who expected to see us there. And I recommend you guys go, don't let us stand in the way of whatever that is. So I'll grab some more.
Starting point is 01:54:13 The Cocoa Nino says Tim, solution to housing and wealth gap, all sales of homes to first time home buyers pay zero tax, no income, no capital gains, construction becomes profitable overnight. So one of the issues is supply.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Where we are, it's crazy that they're building a massive amount of houses and we have no idea who's supposed to move into them. Yeah. This is really weird. I mean, Trump's curtailed immigration. and the birth rate is down, so why are they building houses? I think the Fed is likely giving funds to construction companies to build houses to prop up the economy.
Starting point is 01:54:51 I think it's a big scheme to create fake jobs. This is going to lend itself to inflation because they're injecting money into the system, but I don't understand how they're building as many houses as they're building. I guess the idea they bring down prices. I think the idea is the Fed gives, creates money upon the issue. of debt to a construction company alone, which they can use to hire people to build a house. So those people have cash and then go to the grocery store, and this creates an artificial lubrication in the economy.
Starting point is 01:55:21 And then, to be fair, it is true that we are constrained on supply for housing. Yeah, I think the issue with a lot of the demand side that they're trying to solve, it really comes down to supply because we could change how the mortgage is done and whatnot. But if the supply stays the same, then prices will not go down. I mean, a lot of the supply side problem will be solved by mass deportations. Totally. And then like there's incentives that have to come into play. I mean, we should be thinking about what kind of housing do we want developers to build because they're being incentivized to build the wrong kinds of things. I mean, everybody's thinking in high rises, not homes, right? And then like I think to the super chat, you know, point, like I think that's an interesting idea. I think there should be more creative solutions that were thrown at the wall and seeing what sticks right now on like four first time home buyers? I mean, should they be at the front of the line in considerations as it pertains to state law for like purchasing homes? Why are corporate entities getting? I got an idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Instead of SNAP, how about you get a tax deduction commensurate with what you would have received for food benefits? We don't give you money. We just don't take taxes from you. That means you have to work. And you get to keep more of your money if you need it. I suppose the problem is people who at poverty are paying zero taxes anyway. And I think a system like this is inherently problematic when only the hardest working people are paying the taxes for everybody else, you have a guaranteed breakdown of the system where people
Starting point is 01:56:43 eventually say there was a diminishing return on my labor and then high merit people stop working and low merit people keep demanding from the system and then it pops. Yeah. And there you go. All right. What do we got? Eric Miller says, how you know it's a cult, Trump calls a reporter Piggy, the entire mainstream media squeals.
Starting point is 01:57:06 I mean, it's a good point. That's what I was saying. They got the call. The media was like, this is our story. Everybody run with it. To be fair, I did too. I saw that story and it was going viral. I guess I'll make a video about it.
Starting point is 01:57:16 And I laughed and said, Trump is right? And I said, is it presidential for Trump to call a reporter Piggy? I say yes. It is now. It's Trumpian, that's for sure. Well, we need to be a bit more brutal of a people. So true.
Starting point is 01:57:27 When Trump does something, it makes it presidential. So the answer to the question is yes, it is. McDonald's is aristocratic now. Sorry. What are you going to do? Don't apologize. It's true. Millennial Mama says the process at Ellis Island was often two hours long and quite extensive.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Check out some of the questions they'd asked. Dems would be aghast. Okay. Questions. Actually, let's do this. Let's ask our friend Grak. Grag's faster. What were some of the questions asked at Ellis Island?
Starting point is 01:57:56 Let's find out. Let's see, from 1892 to 1954. What is your name? How old are you? Male or Female? Uh-oh. All right. By question three, the Democrats are losing it.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Single, married, widow, divorce, occupation. reader, write. Wow, what's your nationality? What's your race? Where were you born? Last permanent residence. Who paid for your passage? What's your final destination? Nearest relative? How much money do you have? Show it. Wow. Have you ever been in the States before? Are you going to join a friend or relative? Are you a polygamist? Are you a polygist? Have you been convicted of a crime? Have you been to prison? What is your physical and mental health condition? Hmm. Do you have any deformities? Are you crippled or otherwise physically defective? What's your height, complexion, color, hair and eyes, identifying marks by whom were you invited?
Starting point is 01:58:40 Do you have a contract to work here arranged? This is just me on a date. Be deformed. What's like, what's your raise? Are you crippled? Yeah, what's your race? Are you Indian? You have money?
Starting point is 01:58:51 Show me. I wonder, show me. I wonder how many. May I meet you? I wonder how many of those questions today Americans would say they would support being asked. All of them. Except for the Democrats being like, what does male and female even mean? I mean, how do you ask someone that?
Starting point is 01:59:06 You have to assume their gender? I assume they have one. Republican would be fine with all of the questions and Democrats. be like, oh, no, all those are racist, all those are hurtful. I thought they'd be more patriotic, frankly. I'm relatively unimpressed. I wonder if there was, like... I thought there would be a loyalty pledge or something like that in there.
Starting point is 01:59:22 I'm disappointed that they didn't ask about communism. They only ask for. Yeah, only anarchy. Well, this is for entry, not citizenship, right? And, like, also, I don't know what conflicts were going on. It's like, are you coming from X, Y, or Z? 1880s, communism was even really, like, in the zeitgeist as much. So, my friends, we are going to go to that uncensored portion of the show at Rumble.
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Starting point is 02:00:13 X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown for the record for posterity I don't think a lot should be deported I love a lot he's the greatest
Starting point is 02:00:20 plus one seems like a pretty good dude you've convinced me tight re-education is still on the table but deportation if I get deported
Starting point is 02:00:27 are you bringing me back on the H-1B that's right that's right that's right Tim officially endorses H-1B visas you can be 01
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